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Title: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on May 23, 2017, 04:15:58 AM
Sometimes things are bad and you just need to scream into the void
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Rahxephon91 on May 23, 2017, 04:49:36 AM
Well for me one of my things is that I guess I don't like the word. I didn't want to use the word depressed and say I have depression. Because honestly a lot of the time I do feel maybe not happy but not sad. Yet I guess many times I try to keep that I hate myself.  I felt that my problems were not worthy of "depression", but just little insignificant problems, but I guess they aren't so insignificant if they are really dragging me down.

I seriously wanted to kill myself and set out to do it. Now obviously I failed and thats good. I felt a lot of love from my family, my friends, this place. It was amazing, but it's not like the depression ended because I didn't die.

Rather now I feel guilty that I made my family and friends go through that. I question if I did it just for attention. My lonely and insecure thoughts haven't disapeard. I mean today I went to the movie  and saw all these couples. I was trying to convince myself that the girl I have really strong feelings for isn't going to happen. She sends me pictures of us together. Its like life is trying to fight me.

But I guess I realized it is all cognitive. It really is all in my head. I realized a lot of these insecurities that I thought I could list where maybe not things that held water and I couldn't really think why I thought them in the first place.

Now I still think them and will continue to think them, but I guess it helped to realize that these negative thoughts aren't true.

But yeah, tomorrow I go to a therapist and I guess I'll just continue to see where I'm going.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: chronovore on May 23, 2017, 05:14:59 AM
Well for me one of my things is that I guess I don't like the word. I didn't want to use the word depressed and say I have depression. Because honestly a lot of the time I do feel maybe not happy but not sad. Yet I guess many times I try to keep that I hate myself.  I felt that my problems were not worthy of "depression", but just little insignificant problems, but I guess they aren't so insignificant if they are really dragging me down.

I seriously wanted to kill myself and set out to do it. Now obviously I failed and thats good. I felt a lot of love from my family, my friends, this place. It was amazing, but it's not like the depression ended because I didn't die.

Rather now I feel guilty that I made my family and friends go through that. I question if I did it just for attention. My lonely and insecure thoughts haven't disapeard. I mean today I went to the movie  and saw all these couples. I was trying to convince myself that the girl I have really strong feelings for isn't going to happen. She sends me pictures of us together. Its like life is trying to fight me.

But I guess I realized it is all cognitive. It really is all in my head. I realized a lot of these insecurities that I thought I could list where maybe not things that held water and I couldn't really think why I thought them in the first place.

Now I still think them and will continue to think them, but I guess it helped to realize that these negative thoughts aren't true.

But yeah, tomorrow I go to a therapist and I guess I'll just continue to see where I'm going.
You're doing the right thing by seeking professional help. Taking things one step at a time, not getting ahead of yourself is also a good decision.

Feeling guilty about what you did, nurturing your self-loathing, these are all ways your chemistry and pathology are messing with you.

It's something many people go through at times, some worse and for longer than others. I had a bad run in 2010 and 2011, but mainly managed to turn it around. It comes back, it's insidious. But you can manifest control over your life. No-one else can.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Let's Cyber on May 30, 2017, 05:01:16 PM
Getting outside help might be the most important step. Looking back when I was at my darkest moments, I was wandering in the wilderness of my mind essentially without any kind of survival training. I didn't have any process to fight back so it felt like I was in a constant state of drowning. Eventually I just wanted it to end.

A therapist can help you navigate those waters and start developing better habits to avoid the roughest seas. It takes some time and effort, but it is doable. 
Well for me one of my things is that I guess I don't like the word. I didn't want to use the word depressed and say I have depression. Because honestly a lot of the time I do feel maybe not happy but not sad. Yet I guess many times I try to keep that I hate myself.  I felt that my problems were not worthy of "depression", but just little insignificant problems, but I guess they aren't so insignificant if they are really dragging me down.
It can be easy to forget what "normal" feels like if you've been depressed for many years. I don't know if that is your situation but it was definitely mine. Depression for me wasn't necessarily sadness but more of an almost constant state of emotional numbness interrupted by brief moments of self pity and hatred. My emotional gradient was extremely limited.
 
It can turn into a endless cycle. For me the cycle almost ended in suicide but thankfully I eventually got help.
 
But yeah, tomorrow I go to a therapist and I guess I'll just continue to see where I'm going.
How did it go, man?
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Rahxephon91 on May 30, 2017, 05:35:32 PM
I mean it was the first time so it went well I guess ok. It was just a lot of me repeating what I've been saying already. Telling the same stuff over and over again, it has become tiring.

I don't know what I want out of this. It's like I want the therapist to give me sort of survey/questionnaire. That will pinpoint my issues and then actually tell me whats wrong with me and then fix them. I know it doesn't work like that, but I'm just really tired with life.

While I was stopped from killing myself and it felt good for a second, my thoughts haven't left me and I feel like whatever good things I've said are complete bullshit.

I feel even angrier now.

Like in the relationship thread I said a had a good conversation with my friend who I have strong feelings for and maybe I did at that time, but now I hate her and I'm mad about that conclusion. I can only internlize the reason she did'nt have feelings for me like that as some flaw on my part and it pissess me off to have another person reject me that way. I understand that this is all in my head, but it's how I feel. I feel like she just acted like she cared to satisfy herself and she doesn't actually give a shit. I don't know, I just feel completly lonley and I feel like in the end my freinds are going to leave me because they realize now how much of a crazy person I am.

I'm tired of everyone telling me the same stuff.

"It will happen, you will find someone. Be patient".

Haven't I been patient?

"Oh just try".

Even though in the end it seems everyone I know has found someone out of circumstance and why try? SO I can feel like this again? So I can fall for a person only for them to not feel that way. I feel like thats what always happens and I'm becoming an increasingly bitter person.

At this point I really feel it would have been a lot easier to off myself. I don't understand people and now I feel like I've just revealed too much of myself and even if people act like they understand, they really don't or care. I feel like I've just been ignored recently.

I don't know what I want, curley I honestly want to cut myself off from most of those people. Never see them again. Maybe thats bad, but I don't think I can be around her or any of my friends ever again and I just want to get away from all of them. I feel guilty about that too because they all acted like they cared.

And it sucks because if I don't go back to my job, I obviously have to find a new job which I don't know where I will find one and well it will be tough for a while. I don't even know if I do or do not want to go back to my job. It would probably be a bad idea to go.

I don't know, I just feel angry.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2017, 06:03:39 PM
I was crazy over a girl in highschool/early uni.  Did me a whole lot of good to cut ties.  Don't really have advice other than that.  My situation improved a lot when I started to accept that this was my life and its never going to be perfect but expecting others to fix me was idiotic.   

For me, I've been hit hard with depression this last two weeks.  Haven't been able to do anything.  Not taking care of my self.  Takes up most of my energy just taking care of my dog.  Anxiety is just killing me.   Hate this shit and it happens like 2-3 times a year.  I know the solution is just to get up and exercise and clean my apartment, get to work and do work, but its so damn hard.   

Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Valkyrie on May 30, 2017, 06:08:12 PM
Depression and anxiety are evil fucking cunts.

Cutting ties with people who make it worse is always the best thing to do, imo. No point in dwelling on a sheer 1% hope of any relationship or friendship with them working out when all they do is make you feel like garbage.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: chronovore on May 30, 2017, 09:29:24 PM
Rahx, your brain is working to sabotage your efforts! This doctor may not be the one you ultimately stick with, but all things are impermanent. For now, try and walk the path in front of you and let the doctor help however they can. You also mentioned cutting ties; you talked about one assclown who was the catalyst for the recent incident – I agree you should avoid the fuck out of that guy, fuck him – but you also experienced an outpouring of care from many people around you. If your brain is trying to isolate you from support systems, that's your brain fucking with you.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 30, 2017, 10:23:34 PM
I drink a lot and withdraw from friends/society, I'm sure that's helping and is healthy.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2017, 10:26:42 PM
On my 4th beer, tonight.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Valkyrie on May 31, 2017, 03:36:44 AM
Man that ain't healthy. But still a whole lot better than feeling like garbage.

As for Rahx, he seems to expect that once he finds a girlfriend, all problems will magically disappear. Sadly that's not how life works, especially not if you appear to struggle as much with yourself as he seems to. Maybe a girlfriend would be a decent temporary help, but that bandaid needs to come off sooner or later. It's nice having someone, but it should not be your only source happiness.

Love yourself first. Or at least be fine with who you are. Confidence is quite attractive!
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 31, 2017, 07:23:42 AM
I know it sounds corny but you can't change the past but you can change the future. Thats how I try to move forward and past some things. You can keep being angry at yourself or others but thats wasted energy.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: bork on May 31, 2017, 09:35:14 AM
I've basically cut ties with everybody in my life and lived like a hermit with most of my social interactions being online. I'm not necessarily happy, but can't say I'm sad either.

Once you've been in the void long enough, you get used to it :yeshrug

This is me now, in a way- aside from work and family, that's about it for my socialization.  Most of my friends have either moved away or just become unavailable because of kids and stuff.  I don't even play stuff online with people anymore since nobody is ever online or playing the same stuff these days.  Hell, I barely even play games with anyone on my friends list, let alone with IRL friends.  And it was almost funny how I came back to the States and then several friends who had moved back here returned to Japan almost immediately after.  :lol :-\

I did cut ties with one friend, but I don't think he even realizes it- the guy stopped hanging out with me after he met his girlfriend years ago, and I've seen him three times since then- once when he started dating her, at their engagement party, and then at their wedding.  I hear that his wife is incredibly controlling, but the reason I stopped talking to him was because he promised he'd come help me with something one weekend and no-showed twice, not even bothering to say anything the second time.  I gave up trying to hang out after that.  That was three years ago.

Also from time to time, I get kind of depressed living here and wish I was back in Japan.  I really enjoyed living abroad and would like to go back.  The problem is that I don't know what the hell I'd be able to do, since I don't want to do the English thing again and my Japanese skills are even worse now than they were before.  Moving to another city might also help.  I really don't think I like Atlanta but it is nice having family close by.  Sometimes I think it was a mistake to move back to the U.S. at all, but coming back here helped me to start a career and now I've got a good job, am a homeowner, and all that stuff.  I doubt I'd be making as much money abroad and probably wouldn't have been able to afford a home and two cars.

Part of the problem, besides my general shyness, is that I think I have some anxiety issues that I've never been treated for.  I also tend to be very much a shut-in and being cooped up doesn't help things.  Yesterday when my wife came home from work, we went for a walk and I felt 100 times better.  I need to get my ass out and start doing things again. 
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Tasty on May 31, 2017, 09:49:11 AM
This just hit one of my favorite channels this morning, might be useful to some people here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO1mTELoj6o
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on June 14, 2017, 02:36:21 AM
This just hit one of my favorite channels this morning, might be useful to some people here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO1mTELoj6o

This hit home pretty hard.



As the starting of this thread probably belies, lately I've been in the valley. The last few years have been a goddamned rollercoaster, friends dying, family getting sick, falling in and out of love. I'm still not on the upswing, but I can say I'm making some active efforts towards getting out of it. It's just really difficult to shake the feeling of treading water in every aspect of life sometimes, even when people tell me I'm moving forward. I dunno. I should probably drink less
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 08, 2017, 05:54:15 AM
Been having more and more negative and suicidal thoughts recently. I don't know, I just continue to see myself as a waste and I know it's all in my head, but I do nothing but highlight the negatives and failures.

I actually agree with most of the negatives thrown at me by you guys. My faults are just so many and I just don't how to get past them in order to feel happy. I don't know how to be happy maybe. I just feel miserable and very lonley. I want to die so bad.

Yes, I know I should go to a Dr, but one of my problems is I just hate actually talking about this a loud. It feels so stupid when I talk and so pointless. I know thats actually what therapy is, plenty of people go there and talk about things that are of little importance, but when I talk about my problems I just can't see through that barrier of "man this is irrelevant". I feel like I can't actually capture what my problems are when I talk to a thearpist and since it's not immediate and quickly understood solutions, I guess I lose interests. Maybe because I can easily go "well this is'nt going anywhere BAIL OUT".

I guess I like talking on fourms because no one here knows me and it really kind of feels like I'm simply talking to myself with little consequence. For some reason just gabbing with a therapist feels fake and unnatural to me. I don't even know what I'm saying.

I just hate myself. I hate my situation, I hate that my life has nothing really going on in it. I hate that I've became this terrible person. I just really want to die. It really would be a relief. My life isn't even hard, though the ground around it is crumbling. Its getting pretty pathetic to be where I am.

I don't know guys, every time I start to feel better about who I am. Something quickly happens that I can rationalize and say nope I'm a loser. I just really want to get this thing over with? Is that really so bad?

Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: chronovore on October 08, 2017, 08:18:53 AM
No one here wants you gone. Everyone here wants you to get well. We want you to find a way to love yourself, and then you can be loved by others. We're assholes, mostly. I like you and I want you to love yourself.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on October 08, 2017, 10:26:08 AM
Hello Depression, my old friend!

Going to be seeing new therapist once my car is back in shape to do so.

Jiu jitsu and body building help with my depression but I haven't trained in two months because my depression was so severe I didn't want to leave home. Now I'm back in a place where I'm mentally capable of returning to training. I can't wait as nothing alleviates my depression more than getting active and living life.

Hopefully therapy helps me finally beat my demons but I have doubts it will. I've held on to them for far too long. Quite frankly I'm not sure there is a cure for emotional or even physical abuse.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: toku on October 08, 2017, 11:42:39 AM
Been spending more time meditating lately. I find if I can't get to that positive place I have to just go very general or sometimes just blank. Grateful for even little things helps me build some momentum.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on October 08, 2017, 11:50:15 AM
Hello Depression, my old friend!

Going to be seeing new therapist once my car is back in shape to do so.

Jiu jitsu and body building help with my depression but I haven't trained in two months because my depression was so severe I didn't want to leave home. Now I'm back in a place where I'm mentally capable of returning to training. I can't wait as nothing alleviates my depression more than getting active and living life.

Hopefully therapy helps me finally beat my demons but I have doubts it will. I've held on to them for far too long. Quite frankly I'm not sure there is a cure for emotional or even physical abuse.

MDMA might be worth looking into as an emerging treatment.

Treating PTSD with MDMA-Assisted Psychotherapy (http://www.mdmaptsd.org/)

Quote from: Wikipedia
In November 2016, phase 3 clinical trials for PTSD were approved by the United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to assess effectiveness and safety.[23] MDMA was granted breakthrough therapy designation by the FDA for PTSD in August 2017.[24]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UygZnBTWW0M&t=2s
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on October 09, 2017, 09:10:30 AM
Well, I'd really like an apology from them more than drugs!

That said I'd love to try shrooms if I don't end up dying from a heart attack caused by a bad trip.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Positive Touch on October 09, 2017, 01:34:34 PM
shrooms was the greatest high I ever had. helped sort through shit at the edges of my mind.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on October 09, 2017, 07:15:22 PM
I can feel my seasonal affective disorder creeping in these last feels days, I fully believe mushrooms do help and luckily I got like half an oz in my cabinent
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on October 09, 2017, 07:15:59 PM
I can feel my seasonal affective disorder creeping in these last feels days, I fully believe mushrooms do help and luckily I got like half an oz in my cabinent

Lol feels days, but accurate amirite?
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on October 09, 2017, 08:30:22 PM
I don't know where to get shrooms oh well
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: chronovore on October 09, 2017, 08:35:42 PM
I don't know where to get shrooms oh well

With the amount of cow shit in TX, you're probably in a product-rich environment, but before you go looking make sure they're not going to interfere with your hormone meds.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Huff on October 09, 2017, 08:41:45 PM
Don't eat the wrong mushrooms or they can destroy your liver too  :)
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on October 09, 2017, 08:43:16 PM
Yeah idk I buy them from people who grow them on purpose, would be too nervous to just pick em. Go to a jam band concert and talk to the greasy lookin white dudes in tie dye I guess
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: chronovore on October 09, 2017, 08:45:57 PM
Oh, in no way did I intend to advocate harvesting on one's own. Definitely get the refined product that is theoretically vetted by a professional, even if he's a greasy dude in a t-shirt. I'd say ask friends if they have a connection. But I'm probably the least-likely drug advocate on the bore, as I only do caffeine and alcohol.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on October 09, 2017, 08:48:51 PM
Depending how much time money and effort you want to put in, head shops (around here anyway) will actually sell spore kits to grow your own
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on October 09, 2017, 09:04:28 PM
Don't eat the wrong mushrooms or they can destroy your liver too  :)

Expound please?
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: benjipwns on October 10, 2017, 02:20:22 PM
Yes, I know I should go to a Dr, but one of my problems is I just hate actually talking about this a loud. It feels so stupid when I talk and so pointless. I know thats actually what therapy is, plenty of people go there and talk about things that are of little importance, but when I talk about my problems I just can't see through that barrier of "man this is irrelevant". I feel like I can't actually capture what my problems are when I talk to a thearpist and since it's not immediate and quickly understood solutions, I guess I lose interests. Maybe because I can easily go "well this is'nt going anywhere BAIL OUT".
A good talk therapist doesn't mind the talking about irrelevant things because they understand it as part of an extended process. There's a lot of people like you describe, but because their position is one of experience certain therapists will shuffle off the people who just need some kind of weekly or monthly reinforcement and they're fine to someone else or use those people as kind of a mental palette cleanser.

And really, take this post of yours. Taking it or part of it (like the feelings about the irrelevance and inability to get to the problem or inability to talk about it out loud) in for a talk therapist is something that job wise they would love, you probably don't even have to read it outloud, just get yourself to where you can hand it to them to read. Or just write a note on paper that has similar thoughts or what have you if you don't want to use a The Bore post.

The disconnect between a rational mind and the irrational thought process/emotional is really frustrating, even with medication that works its a very difficult gap to bridge, and that's part of the whole thinking it's so petty or stupid or irrelevant because you know it is. But the actual problem isn't in that, the problem is finding a way or ways or something to handle what you know is stupid so it doesn't pile up and be overwhelming or with a snowball effect or what have you.

I know I can't really, maybe never, especially to where I'm satisfied, but just recognizing the silliness and dark humor underlying situations sometimes is enough to avoid it. Certain things that does nothing for, but others, it doesn't "solve" but makes it easier to deal with.

If anything, just remember you're the boss. You're paying the person to sit there and listen to whatever you feel like really. And you can "fire" them. They have this whole code of ethics and legal requirements thing about being able to "fire" you that you can exploit.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 10, 2017, 03:55:19 PM
No one here wants you gone. Everyone here wants you to get well. We want you to find a way to love yourself, and then you can be loved by others. We're assholes, mostly. I like you and I want you to love yourself.
Thanks.

I don't mean to disregard anyone else(everyone here is cool), but Chronovore you have been especially kind.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: chronovore on October 10, 2017, 08:02:19 PM
No one here wants you gone. Everyone here wants you to get well. We want you to find a way to love yourself, and then you can be loved by others. We're assholes, mostly. I like you and I want you to love yourself.
Thanks.

I don't mean to disregard anyone else(everyone here is cool), but Chronovore you have been especially kind.

Thanks for that. I really like our group of peeps, you included. We all want what's best for each other.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Tasty on October 12, 2017, 02:58:14 AM
I can't do this anymore
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: benjipwns on October 12, 2017, 03:06:36 AM
I can't do this anymore
You have to, Doomsday Clock isn't out yet.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: benjipwns on October 12, 2017, 09:33:36 AM
Andy come back :(

i made hot cocoa

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Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Valkyrie on October 12, 2017, 10:18:19 AM
I can't do this anymore
Don't go, we need you and you need us. Come back. :heartbeat
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: toku on October 12, 2017, 12:26:39 PM
I can't do this anymore

<3
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Tasty on October 12, 2017, 12:30:26 PM
Why did I post that? 🤔

Sorry for the scare everyone.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: toku on October 12, 2017, 12:43:12 PM
Why did I post that? 🤔

Sorry for the scare everyone.

we're all trying to figure it out too
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Rufus on October 12, 2017, 12:50:24 PM
OK, Andy-kun, spill.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Tasty on October 12, 2017, 12:58:54 PM
I got drunk and it was late. :thinking
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Positive Touch on October 12, 2017, 01:02:12 PM
life is shit no need to apologize
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Rufus on October 12, 2017, 01:03:56 PM
I chose to believe everything is alright, because that's convenient, but I'm gonna be real disappointed if you end up offing yourself. :ufup
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Valkyrie on October 12, 2017, 01:05:26 PM
PSA: My PMs are always open if anyone needs a friend to talk to. :heartbeat

Might not always know what to say.. but I'm a good listener.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Tasty on October 12, 2017, 01:11:33 PM
I chose to believe everything is alright, because that's convenient, but I'm gonna be real disappointed if you end up offing yourself. :ufup

I mean I'd be pretty disappointed too
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Raist on October 12, 2017, 01:31:21 PM
Why did I post that? 🤔

Sorry for the scare everyone.


Maybe you meant to post in the Switch thread? :thinking
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Huff on October 12, 2017, 01:34:33 PM
Don't eat the wrong mushrooms or they can destroy your liver too  :)

Expound please?

Sorry just saw this. Some mushrooms are toxic with different effects. Would recommend not picking your own unless you know what to look for/avoid.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: zomgee on October 12, 2017, 02:33:57 PM
Why did I post that? 🤔

Sorry for the scare everyone.

You dingus, you really had me worried.

APOLOGIZE IN THE DEPRESSION THREAD.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Tasty on October 12, 2017, 03:01:37 PM
This is that...
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on October 15, 2017, 02:36:46 AM
time sucks and sometimes being nice also sucks
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: thisismyusername on October 22, 2017, 08:14:39 PM
Just for the record: I'm on antidepressants (hence asking in the sex thread), and today I've been crying all fucking day. Nose is sore from wiping it because I keep breaking out crying.

When does this get better? I'm already on week 4 nearly. I really shouldn't be having these emotional outbursts of the dam breaking at 100mg, right?
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: hungrynoob on October 22, 2017, 08:29:46 PM
If anyone is on their own, and want to talk/vent can always PM me.

Been diagnosed with mdd and gad, im not forthcoming about sharing my experiences as to why, but Im always willing to lend an ear. I'm not entirely sure if anyone here has yet managed to connect to the dots and figure out who I am on GAF, but regardless im not a bad person. :)
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: chronovore on October 22, 2017, 09:00:40 PM
If anyone is on their own, and want to talk/vent can always PM me.

Been diagnosed with mdd and gad, im not forthcoming about sharing my experiences as to why, but Im always willing to lend an ear. I'm not entirely sure if anyone here has yet managed to connect to the dots and figure out who I am on GAF, but regardless im not a bad person. :)

If you want a fresh start, TheBore is your place. It's likely preferred that you come in with fresh eyes and a clean bill, rather than drag in baggage from NeoGAF times. You are reborn.
:rejoice

On the other hand, shitting up TheBore and then repeatedly trying to sneak back under new aliases is frowned upon.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2017, 09:02:16 PM
Feel better TIMU :(
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Cryo on October 22, 2017, 09:02:56 PM
Just for the record: I'm on antidepressants (hence asking in the sex thread), and today I've been crying all fucking day. Nose is sore from wiping it because I keep breaking out crying.

When does this get better? I'm already on week 4 nearly. I really shouldn't be having these emotional outbursts of the dam breaking at 100mg, right?
Do you mind elaborating on which one you're on? Also, were you prone to experiencing these prior to taking them? My experience with them is that these typically help regulate the low (and high) peaks of emotions, but if you're still experiencing this 4 weeks in there may be a need to up the dosage or switch to a different drug. 
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: BlueTsunami on October 22, 2017, 09:06:21 PM
I think I've been dealing with this since my teenage years. Never diagnosed. I've just chalked it up as me tipping into the melancholic spectrum. I'm already 32, guess I'll ride this shit out.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: hungrynoob on October 22, 2017, 09:17:38 PM
If anyone is on their own, and want to talk/vent can always PM me.

Been diagnosed with mdd and gad, im not forthcoming about sharing my experiences as to why, but Im always willing to lend an ear. I'm not entirely sure if anyone here has yet managed to connect to the dots and figure out who I am on GAF, but regardless im not a bad person. :)

If you want a fresh start, TheBore is your place. It's likely preferred that you come in with fresh eyes and a clean bill, rather than drag in baggage from NeoGAF times. You are reborn.
:rejoice

On the other hand, shitting up TheBore and then repeatedly trying to sneak back under new aliases is frowned upon.

Nah, if people looked hard enough they could connect my name here to my GAF account, im not exactly hiding, Ive just been switching to this name overtime (not just on here), as I kinda prefer this name.

Thanks all the same tho.  :)
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Prinny_Dood on October 22, 2017, 09:34:07 PM
My depression and anxiety have really cranked up the past year or so, most of it is caused by my retail job. I can't seem to deal with the customers anymore, and the employees are really starting to anger me. I have to force myself to go to work and stay my whole shift.  I can't help but think the best thing to do is quit, especially with how shitty I act and feel after work. Only problem is that I need my insurance. I'm not having much luck finding a new job, either.

 I'm currently meeting with a therapist to try and work out a plan to deal with this.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Tasty on October 22, 2017, 09:36:51 PM
Just for the record: I'm on antidepressants (hence asking in the sex thread), and today I've been crying all fucking day. Nose is sore from wiping it because I keep breaking out crying.

When does this get better? I'm already on week 4 nearly. I really shouldn't be having these emotional outbursts of the dam breaking at 100mg, right?

Damn, you're taking GAF's shutdown too hard breh.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: thisismyusername on October 22, 2017, 10:10:46 PM
Just for the record: I'm on antidepressants (hence asking in the sex thread), and today I've been crying all fucking day. Nose is sore from wiping it because I keep breaking out crying.

When does this get better? I'm already on week 4 nearly. I really shouldn't be having these emotional outbursts of the dam breaking at 100mg, right?
Do you mind elaborating on which one you're on? Also, were you prone to experiencing these prior to taking them? My experience with them is that these typically help regulate the low (and high) peaks of emotions, but if you're still experiencing this 4 weeks in there may be a need to up the dosage or switch to a different drug.

Zoloft. 50mg tabs, they went 25->50->75->100 or so by like 25/75 two days and then upping. I mean I'd break down crying now and then, but nothing on this level.

Just for the record: I'm on antidepressants (hence asking in the sex thread), and today I've been crying all fucking day. Nose is sore from wiping it because I keep breaking out crying.

When does this get better? I'm already on week 4 nearly. I really shouldn't be having these emotional outbursts of the dam breaking at 100mg, right?

Damn, you're taking GAF's shutdown too hard breh.

Hah, that certainly ain't it.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: hungrynoob on October 22, 2017, 10:27:32 PM
Just a shot in the dark, but have you been feeling numb during your depression off the ssri's? It could be the SSRI's working thats maybe made you feel unnumb and pent up emotion over how youre feeling that, probably at the time, you knew, should make you feel sad but were just past the point of caring to the point it was easier to brush off - has come flooding out...

If not, speak to your doctor about distress caused by the ssris as, if these are the first kind of anti-depressants youve taken, then there are others they can prescribe and try, as not everyone is the same.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: thisismyusername on October 22, 2017, 10:32:28 PM
Kinda, sorta... mostly just apathetic. When I started on Zoloft, I had that and an upbeat of energy. Now it's just kinda fatigue-y and really no care.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: hungrynoob on October 22, 2017, 10:37:37 PM
Kinda, sorta... mostly just apathetic. When I started on Zoloft, I had that and an upbeat of energy. Now it's just kinda fatigue-y and really no care.

I think I was on zoloft for about 8 weeks. Only antidepresent ive done so not talking from a well of experience here, but zoloft kinda had the opposite/same effect for me, after 4 weeks I had a kinda breakthrough moment where life seemed more colourful and happy with hope than anything I had experienced to date, then after that it made me a zombie, which is why I stopped.

If its not plausible its pent up emotion, back to the dr asap, tell them your concerns and its effect, he will judge appropriately - sometimes some meds just dont work for some people.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: hungrynoob on October 22, 2017, 10:58:29 PM
Entering the 5th week you should be clear of some of the initial side effects, but like I said, I'd drop a call even if it isn't severe.

 People can react differently to different SSRIs... I mean it could really be a number of things.

 Fatigue is very common though, even for people who take SSRIs long-term.
--
 Also, just to share, I've been diagnosed with mdd and anxiety for a while now, but I've been good at bettering my self and guiding myself out.

 In my case it's not really case of bad habits, but mostly inherited & focusing on a lot of negative shit that normally would pass over people's radars.

 I've been doing good, but my closer friends have been either moving further out or getting busier. Lots of shit is currently going on my personal life and having to shoulder it all on my own has been pretty terrible on me these past few months.

 I can distract myself, go and workout, I'm currently pretty comfortable with myself etc. but I find myself entering anxiety loops and feeling severely depressed when I have some free time, and unfortunately I've been having a lot lately. :lol I try making myself busy by making espresso more, working out more, going out more, or chatting with y'all, but the second I'm free it's just instantly and totally south from there.

 Not really sure what to do, but I'm going to try and stay off SSRIs, not that there's anything wrong with them... I personally know of quite a few friends/family who take them w/ little to no side effects.

 I should probably jump back into dating  :doge

Yeah silly i missed out give it a bit more time. But that was my conclusion myself, to come off them, to prevent the fatigue. I think I read somewhere as well though, that SSRIs are only half as effective alone compared to in therapy (specifically CBT), might be worth asking your doc if those services are available.

also, 1v1 lockout?
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: thisismyusername on October 22, 2017, 11:00:51 PM
I'll be seeing the Psych on Friday, so I'll just shoulder through it and if it gets worse I'll know. I'm about to take the next dose in an hour and then pass out. Hopefully a new day will ease the sting of everything going on in my life that just caused the outburst.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: hungrynoob on October 22, 2017, 11:05:34 PM
Been thinking a lot about killing myself again. Just turned 25 and things largely seem pointless. Not quite sure what to do to get “right.”

Sorry dislike having no multiquote on here.


What way you think about it? Like a 'what if' kinda way or is it more evolved than that? The fact you said things seem pointless feels like you haven't quite gave up looking yet. The answer will not come quickly, but slowly over time. And it isnt really an answer, but more so you discovering who you are exactly, what you want, and how you can find it within yourself to get that. Have you reached out to anyone in your personal life for help professional or personal.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: hungrynoob on October 22, 2017, 11:08:04 PM
I'll be seeing the Psych on Friday, so I'll just shoulder through it and if it gets worse I'll know. I'm about to take the next dose in an hour and then pass out. Hopefully a new day will ease the sting of everything going on in my life that just caused the outburst.

Sorry to intrude, but there is something going on in your life that could have caused the outburst? or did i read that wrong?
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: thisismyusername on October 22, 2017, 11:22:44 PM
I'll be seeing the Psych on Friday, so I'll just shoulder through it and if it gets worse I'll know. I'm about to take the next dose in an hour and then pass out. Hopefully a new day will ease the sting of everything going on in my life that just caused the outburst.

Sorry to intrude, but there is something going on in your life that could have caused the outburst? or did i read that wrong?

Many, many things going on in my life right now. Just feeling pretty worthless, way more so than usual.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: hungrynoob on October 22, 2017, 11:39:06 PM
I'll be seeing the Psych on Friday, so I'll just shoulder through it and if it gets worse I'll know. I'm about to take the next dose in an hour and then pass out. Hopefully a new day will ease the sting of everything going on in my life that just caused the outburst.

Sorry to intrude, but there is something going on in your life that could have caused the outburst? or did i read that wrong?

Many, many things going on in my life right now. Just feeling pretty worthless, way more so than usual.

Well I cant begin to know the issues youre struggling with. Try and keep in mind this isnt it, life will change and so will you, feeling worthless is a value youre placing on yourself. But youre not worthless, you just havent found your place yet.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: thisismyusername on October 22, 2017, 11:41:51 PM
That's the problem though: I'm nearly at the halfway mark of my life and haven't found it while others seem to have found it. To be fair, a major major event happened in my teens that basically upended my life and I'm still scrambling around on that trying to find footing.

There's other issues included in that but that's the gist.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: hungrynoob on October 23, 2017, 12:15:29 AM
That's the problem though: I'm nearly at the halfway mark of my life and haven't found it while others seem to have found it. To be fair, a major major event happened in my teens that basically upended my life and I'm still scrambling around on that trying to find footing.

There's other issues included in that but that's the gist.

I'm about to turn 27 and while I havent found it yet, every month over my ups and downs, im starting to see more hope every so often. I have moe epiphanies and greater appreciations for the things around me, it stimulates me socially and professionally and I actually start seeking to better myself compared to when I could stare at a ceiling for 12 hours. I know there is a lot of time passed that could have been spent living my life and pursuing "it". But the thing is, its all a journey, and just because others around us seem to be peaking at our age, doesnt mean we will. I used to think about how much time was lost to the bs in my head, and i still lose time dont get me wrong, but I also think that. Ive been alive for almost 27 years, and i think back to EVERYTHING ive done in my life, every experience and encounter, and I realise, as shit as it has been, it has been a fucking lot.

And while I cant be reborn with the same memories I have now as a 5 year old back in '95, I at least know that theres a very good chance my life expectancy will give me another 27 years minimum to explore what it means to be me. Remember expectations of others dont need to be the same expectations you should hold of yourself.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Cryo on October 23, 2017, 12:26:37 AM
That's the problem though: I'm nearly at the halfway mark of my life and haven't found it while others seem to have found it. To be fair, a major major event happened in my teens that basically upended my life and I'm still scrambling around on that trying to find footing.

There's other issues included in that but that's the gist.

I'm about to turn 27 and while I havent found it yet, every month over my ups and downs, im starting to see more hope every so often. I have moe epiphanies and greater appreciations for the things around me, it stimulates me socially and professionally and I actually start seeking to better myself compared to when I could stare at a ceiling for 12 hours. I know there is a lot of time passed that could have been spent living my life and pursuing "it". But the thing is, its all a journey, and just because others around us seem to be peaking at our age, doesnt mean we will. I used to think about how much time was lost to the bs in my head, and i still lose time dont get me wrong, but I also think that. Ive been alive for almost 27 years, and i think back to EVERYTHING ive done in my life, every experience and encounter, and I realise, as shit as it has been, it has been a fucking lot.

And while I cant be reborn with the same memories I have now as a 5 year old back in '95, I at least know that theres a very good chance my life expectancy will give me another 27 years minimum to explore what it means to be me. Remember expectations of others dont need to be the same expectations you should hold of yourself.
I can relate to this 100%. I was circling the drain and doing the minimum while my friends continued to progress in life for many years. Didn't bother seeking help until the beginning of last year, and it's been a hell of a two year journey for me between therapy and psychiatry and learning to understand why and when my brain begins it's descent into sadness or anciety.

It's never too late to find your way back to the path you want to be on.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 23, 2017, 12:57:05 AM
I'm also currently feeling much more positive about life.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Cryo on October 23, 2017, 01:08:04 AM
I'm also currently feeling much more positive about life.
I'm pretty familiar with your post history via creeping lurking, and I'm really glad to hear you say that.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 23, 2017, 01:10:59 AM
While I hate to be cynical and also sound like a whako. My trip and well use of fun substances in Minneapolis was somewhat eye opening. I've never had an experience where I had so much fun and felt so comfortable with myself. It was really eye opening and because of it I've been trying to think far more positive about everything. I mean there's more I should probably do, but I do feel better right now.

I mean I don't want to advocate and say "go do Molly, but it did lead to a very positive experience for me". I mean it's not a quick fix or something, but it has lead to more positive thoughts.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 23, 2017, 01:12:40 AM
As a The Bore admin I cannot condone the use of illicit substances, however it is good to hear that things are going better for you.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: thisismyusername on October 23, 2017, 04:20:14 AM
Yeah, I know all that. It's more a mixture of everything and just not caring at this point that is basically nosediving my plane. I can pull it up now and then but it just keeps sinking.

I'm feeling slightly better today, but I keep having sleeping problems. I probably am gonna change meds and get one that lets me actually sleep.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Huff on October 23, 2017, 04:28:01 AM
MDMA is actively being studied in depression and other psychiatric disorders  :)

Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Valkyrie on October 23, 2017, 04:29:30 AM
Yeah, I know all that. It's more a mixture of everything and just not caring at this point that is basically nosediving my plane. I can pull it up now and then but it just keeps sinking.

I'm feeling slightly better today, but I keep having sleeping problems. I probably am gonna change meds and get one that lets me actually sleep.
Like someone else said, might wanna talk to your doctor about your meds. It shouldn't be that bad after 4 weeks, although I believe some SSRI take more than 4 weeks for a full effect. Mine took 4ish weeks, and they were 4 weeks of hell. Then I just turned into an indifferent robot, with insomnia (from the meds). Doc gave me Remeron S which knocked me out completely. Just whatever you do, don't quit the med on your own without talking to your doctor.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: thisismyusername on October 23, 2017, 04:42:50 AM
Yeah, I know about MDMA/Ketamine. If it wasn't honestly $500 a pop for ten days of relief and it still being "in trials," I'd probably take it.

Yeah, I know all that. It's more a mixture of everything and just not caring at this point that is basically nosediving my plane. I can pull it up now and then but it just keeps sinking.

I'm feeling slightly better today, but I keep having sleeping problems. I probably am gonna change meds and get one that lets me actually sleep.
Like someone else said, might wanna talk to your doctor about your meds. It shouldn't be that bad after 4 weeks, although I believe some SSRI take more than 4 weeks for a full effect. Mine took 4ish weeks, and they were 4 weeks of hell. Then I just turned into an indifferent robot, with insomnia (from the meds). Doc gave me Remeron S which knocked me out completely. Just whatever you do, don't quit the med on your own without talking to your doctor.

Oh, I definitely am gonna talk. I'm tired of this 4 hours of sleep a pop.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: benjipwns on October 23, 2017, 05:20:45 AM
I'll be seeing the Psych on Friday, so I'll just shoulder through it and if it gets worse I'll know. I'm about to take the next dose in an hour and then pass out. Hopefully a new day will ease the sting of everything going on in my life that just caused the outburst.
just because you've got an appointment already i'd say this is worth trying unless it's really an emergency, especially since you're stepped up to the dosage now and will have a week at that

i say that because drugs have a different effect for everyone but even the standard effect of zoloft really shouldn't be sudden and mood swinging like this, especially stepped up over a four week period...i'm high tolerance for practically everything so it took a long time, but zoloft mainly was eventually stabilizing at a level before it eventually dropped off in effectiveness, it was never activating (none of which pairings with activators worked which is only reason i dropped it (i have no idea off hand what level i got up to in terms of dosage...400mg?))

i've taken so many LEGALLY PROSCRIBED PER GOVERNMENT RULES drugs and have such a high tolerance i can never remember what the uptake periods and times for dosages are supposed to be i have to look them up, but i think zoloft is after four weeks, so this week is like the one where you should start to notice it more

Doc gave me Remeron S which knocked me out completely.
i hate this and love this, even half dosage, it's can be for so long i can get sore from being locked in a position while asleep, and feel like shit after waking up because it'll knock me out for so long i'm out of cycle on my other meds

and the dehydration doesn't make the feeling like shit when i wake up any better that's for sure, also i don't think it actually does anything for my mood that i can tell

but other than all that, highly recommended, they should proscribe it to people who want a sleep aid if they don't
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Valkyrie on October 23, 2017, 05:31:55 AM
Yeah it was very strong. First time I took it, I got knocked out for 17 hours. Usually I had to plan when to take it, because it was so strong, I was drugged down if I tried to force myself to stay awake while it was in my system. I remember trying to eat dinner once a few hours after, and I couldn't hold my fork. But honestly better than insomnia from the SSRI which resulted in an ER/hospital trip.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on October 23, 2017, 11:04:52 AM
While I hate to be cynical and also sound like a whako. My trip and well use of fun substances in Minneapolis was somewhat eye opening. I've never had an experience where I had so much fun and felt so comfortable with myself. It was really eye opening and because of it I've been trying to think far more positive about everything. I mean there's more I should probably do, but I do feel better right now.

I mean I don't want to advocate and say "go do Molly, but it did lead to a very positive experience for me". I mean it's not a quick fix or something, but it has lead to more positive thoughts.

I'm glad man. You seem like a genuinely good dude and I hope you keep doing better.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: thisismyusername on October 23, 2017, 11:12:40 PM
I'll be seeing the Psych on Friday, so I'll just shoulder through it and if it gets worse I'll know. I'm about to take the next dose in an hour and then pass out. Hopefully a new day will ease the sting of everything going on in my life that just caused the outburst.
just because you've got an appointment already i'd say this is worth trying unless it's really an emergency, especially since you're stepped up to the dosage now and will have a week at that

i say that because drugs have a different effect for everyone but even the standard effect of zoloft really shouldn't be sudden and mood swinging like this, especially stepped up over a four week period...i'm high tolerance for practically everything so it took a long time, but zoloft mainly was eventually stabilizing at a level before it eventually dropped off in effectiveness, it was never activating (none of which pairings with activators worked which is only reason i dropped it (i have no idea off hand what level i got up to in terms of dosage...400mg?))

i've taken so many LEGALLY PROSCRIBED PER GOVERNMENT RULES drugs and have such a high tolerance i can never remember what the uptake periods and times for dosages are supposed to be i have to look them up, but i think zoloft is after four weeks, so this week is like the one where you should start to notice it more

The dosage is 2 weeks, actually. But outside of a few crying fits (that were over pretty quickly, like 2-5 mins) today, I actually got some sleep. Maybe it's starting to work. IDK. My depression is pretty damn deep, so I'm not sure these will work I'm one of the rare few that probably needs Ketmine or something to reset it.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: agrajag on October 23, 2017, 11:46:02 PM
I had this weird thing a couple of weeks ago where I looked up a couple of reaction videos on youtube to Immortal Technique's Dance With The Devil, and I started crying. The imagery of the dude raping his own mom was too much. And I haven't cried in more than a decade because I'm so emotionally stunted. Fuck.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: hungrynoob on October 24, 2017, 02:03:31 AM
I'll be seeing the Psych on Friday, so I'll just shoulder through it and if it gets worse I'll know. I'm about to take the next dose in an hour and then pass out. Hopefully a new day will ease the sting of everything going on in my life that just caused the outburst.
just because you've got an appointment already i'd say this is worth trying unless it's really an emergency, especially since you're stepped up to the dosage now and will have a week at that

i say that because drugs have a different effect for everyone but even the standard effect of zoloft really shouldn't be sudden and mood swinging like this, especially stepped up over a four week period...i'm high tolerance for practically everything so it took a long time, but zoloft mainly was eventually stabilizing at a level before it eventually dropped off in effectiveness, it was never activating (none of which pairings with activators worked which is only reason i dropped it (i have no idea off hand what level i got up to in terms of dosage...400mg?))

i've taken so many LEGALLY PROSCRIBED PER GOVERNMENT RULES drugs and have such a high tolerance i can never remember what the uptake periods and times for dosages are supposed to be i have to look them up, but i think zoloft is after four weeks, so this week is like the one where you should start to notice it more

The dosage is 2 weeks, actually. But outside of a few crying fits (that were over pretty quickly, like 2-5 mins) today, I actually got some sleep. Maybe it's starting to work. IDK. My depression is pretty damn deep, so I'm not sure these will work I'm one of the rare few that probably needs Ketmine or something to reset it.

ssris are no sleeping pills.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: benjipwns on October 24, 2017, 02:13:48 AM
The dosage is 2 weeks, actually. But outside of a few crying fits (that were over pretty quickly, like 2-5 mins) today, I actually got some sleep. Maybe it's starting to work. IDK. My depression is pretty damn deep, so I'm not sure these will work I'm one of the rare few that probably needs Ketmine or something to reset it.
i've never really thought the ketamine shot is worth it but then what i have is more longer term in how you want to approach it, after the week or whatever boost you have to come down off the ketamine, so i guess i have a totally different time scale i'm looking at things

i'm afraid all i can proscribe legally is watching an internet forum implode suddenly...but i also have some pamphlets about what hopefully is more cult and less internet forum #ResetEra #YearZero
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: thisismyusername on October 24, 2017, 08:42:21 AM
ssris are no sleeping pills.

Yeah, I know. What I mean is I was able to actually force myself to sleep and feel rested for once in the past few months.

@Benji:  :lol Yeah, I know of the ten-day thing of Ketamine, which is why I wouldn't do it (especially at $500 a pop), but it apparently works wonders to where it basically just resets you over like 2-5 sessions. So it'd be kinda worth it in the end, if I could get into a trial maybe.

All I know is that I'm having mood swings on Zoloft so I'm definitely gonna see if I can change meds on Friday.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Huff on October 24, 2017, 08:42:53 AM
Ketamine is kinda being looked at a wonder drug in a lot of different diseases right now with minimal data, so I'm still skeptical

TIMU - some SSRIs can take closer to 6-8 weeks to fully work. Or it may never work, but a different one may, so chat with your doc what the next step is

Edits: sorry weeks not months
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: howDidIGetHere? on October 24, 2017, 10:08:48 AM
I've got a bit to say on this subject later. At work right now so can't post long form. Wanted to ask though. Has anyone tried kratom for anxiety relief? I'm experimenting with it now and it seems like a great substitute for caffeine and pain meds.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: thisismyusername on October 24, 2017, 11:52:06 AM
TIMU - some SSRIs can take closer to 6-8 weeks to fully work. Or it may never work, but a different one may, so chat with your doc what the next step is

Edits: sorry weeks not months

Yeah, I know. But I think at this point, it's pretty clear to throw in the towel on Zoloft. Sometimes it'll stop the negative feelings, but I've had mood swings, anxiety, trouble-sleeping, etc. on it.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: hungrynoob on October 24, 2017, 11:58:57 AM
are you doing therapy at the same time or just ssris alone? worth to ask to get therapy thrown in aswell.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on October 24, 2017, 11:59:44 AM
Good on you, Rah!

Chin up, TIMU!
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: thisismyusername on October 24, 2017, 12:23:21 PM
are you doing therapy at the same time or just ssris alone? worth to ask to get therapy thrown in aswell.

Both. Check ins bi-weekly (so far) and therapy nearly every week.

I did therapy for about 10 years before going on SSRI's. Didn't work. It was CBT (mostly) and my negative thoughts would just scoff at the "challenging your beliefs" because various things in my life have fallen apart and those thoughts are completely justified (IMO).
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: hungrynoob on October 24, 2017, 12:51:21 PM
are you doing therapy at the same time or just ssris alone? worth to ask to get therapy thrown in aswell.

Both. Check ins bi-weekly (so far) and therapy nearly every week.

I did therapy for about 10 years before going on SSRI's. Didn't work. It was CBT (mostly) and my negative thoughts would just scoff at the "challenging your beliefs" because various things in my life have fallen apart and those thoughts are completely justified (IMO).

Thats good for you now though! CBT and ssris are not nearly as effective separately compared to combined - apparently. Good luck!

Similarly, a recent psylcibin mushoom study suggests magic mushrooms can be an effective method of ridding depression and anxiety. Hard to get a hold of, but im cautiously optimistic. Just fucking hard to get a hold of.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: thisismyusername on October 24, 2017, 06:12:58 PM
Well, just got back from someplace and with the test results I got it killed most of my anxiety for today. Maybe everything isn't hopeless bullshit in my life? (Wrath knows my problem, kinda...) Not gonna air it in public, but still... I'm pretty happy with the results. We'll see if that holds tomorrow, I guess. But hey, still got two more days before I change off Zoloft. As it is, I bought some over the counter sleeping pills so I can (hopefully) sleep for a full 8 hours tonight instead of getting up 4 and struggling to get back to sleep at 7 to wake up at 10 and go about the rest of my day.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: demi on October 24, 2017, 07:59:42 PM
I dont think anyone really ever feels like they accomplished anything in life. I don't, and I'm 32.

Probably doesnt help your case, but what you're feeling is pretty common. That sounds rude, but I dont know how else to put it.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: thisismyusername on October 24, 2017, 08:50:19 PM
I dont think anyone really ever feels like they accomplished anything in life. I don't, and I'm 32.

This is certainly true, Shark. I'm feeling that ^ (lack of accomplishment) myself, but for "social milestones." Long story, PM me if you want the deets but anyway, you're 25.  You can always go to college later on (I say this as someone that rejects that theory, but you know... comforting words/I'm deeply depressed so ignore this aside). Why do your parents block you from going to school, if you don't mind me asking?
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on October 25, 2017, 11:56:49 PM
I need that mdma rah
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: studyguy on October 26, 2017, 12:19:52 AM
I dont think anyone really ever feels like they accomplished anything in life. I don't, and I'm 32.

Probably doesnt help your case, but what you're feeling is pretty common. That sounds rude, but I dont know how else to put it.

Hit 30 and still feel about as capable as I was when I was 18, but I mean I had to help my parents in the past two years since my dad was laid off from his work and he was down and out for half a year before finding decent employment again.  Like I still feel dumb as a rock but eventually getting thrust into positions you don't quite have a firm grasp on but commanding it anyway makes you aware of just how much you change despite feeling like you've been treading water for ages.

Those kinds of instances are few and far between though, I don't think it's easy to ever get a good picture of how much we progress due to a lack of outside perspective when everything one does feels so mundane in the moment.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: thisismyusername on October 26, 2017, 01:07:50 AM
Honestly, I feel like Facebook and the Social Network era (for kiddos our age. :bobbyroberts) totally screws up expectations and milestones or whatever you want to call them in regards to progress.

I've been hit hard with a bunch of shit that has completely buried me and I'm struggling to get out of the fallen building-style rubble. So I'm way behind folks my age already have as "milestones" and it pisses me off. But I've been trying to remind myself that my situation is FUBAR'd harder than theirs (and they have their own shit to deal with, but I'm SUPER hard-mode in terms of things going on), which is something most people kinda need to do in a sense of "perspective."

I dunno... test results I got yesterday has put me in an "okay" and mostly happy mood all day today. So I'm not sure if the Zoloft helped me to where I have a "positive"/upbeat comment like the above or not. :yeshrug Just saying.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 26, 2017, 01:16:55 AM
Yes for sure. I would look on my facebook wall and see friends and people I know getting married, finding love, buying houses, having kids, getting real jobs, and so on. And while I didn't want all those things I felt like a failure.

A friend of mine who is a go getter and will probably succeed because she's actually focused told me  on this subject that those things did'nt bother her because "shes where she needs to be and is there where she is supposed to be". It sounded dumb to me at the time and does miss no doubt the fact that life can be crushing. A cynical person like me instantly thinks that and there's a benfefit to thinking like that, but in the end I'm not sure it's good to dwell on that and rather think about why that idea could be correct.

I am in no position to be ready for those things because I haven't hit that the maturity level honestly and thats fine. I'll get there when it's my time.

Also comparing yourself to others does you no favor.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Tasty on October 26, 2017, 01:17:43 AM
Life doesn't matter and life milestones matter even less. They're a shit-stained version of Xbox Live Achievements. The sooner you stop chasing them, the more enjoyment you'll have out of this game we call life.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Bloodwake on October 26, 2017, 03:05:56 AM
I’ve tried to kill myself at least five times in my life. I’ve been institutionalized for a period of time.

Eventually I found the right cocktail of anxiety and depression drugs. It took 13 years and working through a whole lot of shit.

Even still, I don’t have an answer for you guys. Just keep trying to survive. Exercise. Find a new hobby.

I haven’t accomplished a whole lot either, but we can’t all win the Nobel Prize. What we have accomplished is we were dealt a shit card with mental health and we are still alive. We are saying fuck you to the universe and the genes that wired us wrong.

I used to look at things like I don’t belong in this world. Now I just give the world the finger and tell everyone I’m going to exist regardless and enjoy every fucking second of it that I can.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Valkyrie on October 26, 2017, 03:25:37 AM
^ Liked your post for the second last half, well said. I'm content with knowing life isn't a fairytale, and probably never will be. But that doesn't mean it won't be good or enjoyable. That's why it's important to do the things you enjoy and also live in the moment,  plus you appreciate it a lot more if you don't take it for granted.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: thisismyusername on October 26, 2017, 06:53:54 AM
Life doesn't matter and life milestones matter even less. They're a shit-stained version of Xbox Live Achievements. The sooner you stop chasing them, the more enjoyment you'll have out of this game we call life.

I mean that's easy to say. But when you're in a situation like mine, you start to have creeping anxiety and dread. It royally sucks. I totally do feel like a failure and have no control in my life. But to be fair: When even the federal government won't help you with services... what is the fucking point?

I'm not feeling depressed right now, BTW. But shit, I kinda do wish I dead just because I feel like I have no control on anything in my life and anytime I ask for help I'm pretty much ignored. Heh. Writing half the shit in my head out over the past 2-3 days (I bought a notebook, I remember a therapist/suggestion online saying to write shit out) has helped. It's been kinda cathartic and it's been ages since I've actually wrote. So writing about shit even if I think I'm crazy has helped.

I dunno why I'm posting that. I'm defintely gonna stop giving updates on my depression in here though. Because I don't need that shit on Google searches (#ThanksDemi).
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Freyj on October 26, 2017, 09:45:47 AM
Finally stepping down my Lexapro dose to almost nothing now that my professional life is back on track. I’m glad to have had it when life was a stress cocktail of daytime anxiety and nighttime depression, but I’m glad to be off of it as well. My appetite skyrocketed while on it and I’m looking forward to getting back down to where I was fully comfortable with my weight again. Lost 60 or so in early 2015 and was down to a weight I hadn’t been since before Uni 15-16 years ago.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: toku on October 26, 2017, 11:19:36 AM
writing things down def. helps and like Valkyrie said prioritizing feeling good over everything is a good place to be. I am completely opposed to this idea that life is about struggling or "grinding" until you reach some goal or plateau. Guess what when you reach that goal or w/e it's gonna move and you're gonna be right where you were emotionally/mentally at the start. The more I focus on making toku feel good/well the better my life seems to go, that's including dreams and goals.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Propagandhim on October 26, 2017, 04:56:46 PM
How are you doing today, KissVibes?
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: thisismyusername on October 27, 2017, 03:01:05 AM
How are you doing today, KissVibes?

Oh, man. If only you knew before that thread gets memoryhole'd. :lol :doge

Writing half the shit in my head out over the past 2-3 days (I bought a notebook, I remember a therapist/suggestion online saying to write shit out) has helped.

i'm flattered you think of me as a therapist :heartbeat

I'm honestly not sure if it was you or something I read elsewhere. But it was to the effect of "write stuff down and then burn it. My therapist suggested this to get over the things I hate and want to burn" or something like that.

Oh no, it was a Nihilism meme page ( :doge ) that jokingly had it as a madness thing, but it sounded good on paper and while I haven't destroyed what I wrote (since I'm gonna give it to my therapist next week) I am paranoid about what I've wrote down being seen by anyone else that isn't that person. :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: benjipwns on October 27, 2017, 03:12:26 AM
remember everybody that you've got fighters on the bore :punch

who will want to fight for you more than themselves because they're just trash people with no humanity who are worse than garbage, but that's okay because the meds may not do a lot but the memes do or shitposting does or helping your fellow Yum! Brands and Bob Avakian enthusiasts fight battles

also, across all games with a medic class i have literally thousands upon thousands of hours of practice, so i'm almost literally an actual medical doctor

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Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on October 27, 2017, 03:29:06 AM
Feel better kissvibes
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: thisismyusername on October 27, 2017, 05:10:13 AM
Insomnia fucking sucks. Double-so when over-the-counter stuff barely (if ever) works. :lol I've had problems sleeping for like 2-3 years now, and I'm worried about getting on sedatives. But I guess I should bring that up later today. I'm going to be so fucking angry/tired/pissed going there today. :lol

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Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: benjipwns on October 27, 2017, 05:23:39 AM
That talk about remeron earlier...it's an (usually add-on) anti-depressant and anti-anxiety drug, but that shit will knock you the fuck out. I don't really think it's considered a true sedative but you do feel kinda yuck when you wake up from some of the side effects of sleeping deeply (dehydration, stiff, etc.).

Just something to keep in mind maybe.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: thisismyusername on October 27, 2017, 11:31:41 AM
That talk about remeron earlier...it's an (usually add-on) anti-depressant and anti-anxiety drug, but that shit will knock you the fuck out. I don't really think it's considered a true sedative but you do feel kinda yuck when you wake up from some of the side effects of sleeping deeply (dehydration, stiff, etc.).

Just something to keep in mind maybe.

I think that's what I got. Mirtazapine. Yeah, just googled it: It's commonly known as "Remeron." So yeah. Anyway, they're going to ween me off Zoloft and have me use this (while using both on the ween period). So we'll see. I just want to be able to fucking sleep and not struggle with it at this point.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Valkyrie on October 27, 2017, 11:54:26 AM
You'll sleep... make sure you lock your doors, and don't have to get up in less than 12 hours. :lol
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: thisismyusername on October 27, 2017, 12:59:13 PM
Oh hell yeah! I'm ready for night-driving/walking into the woods and texting my boy-toy that I love him before killing myself on these! :rejoice

More seriously: If it lets me sleep, I'm willing to have that happen. :doge It's been a while since I've actually had a full 8 hours of uninterrupted sleep.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: benjipwns on October 27, 2017, 01:15:36 PM
i've been breaking them in half the last month or so as opposed to the full dose, seems to round off the edges a bit without too big of a change in overall effect and if restless or whatever i can just take the other half, doctor actually suggested trying it if i wasn't liking the full dose anymore

just an option to keep in mind if it seems too powerful :lol
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: hungrynoob on October 27, 2017, 02:01:44 PM
i've been breaking them in half the last month or so as opposed to the full dose, seems to round off the edges a bit without too big of a change in overall effect and if restless or whatever i can just take the other half, doctor actually suggested trying it if i wasn't liking the full dose anymore

just an option to keep in mind if it seems too powerful :lol

This just reminded me, if anyone has anxiety issues speak to your doctor and propranolol or whatever the fuck its called. Dr prescribed me this for my migraines but also said it helped anxiety. Works a treat.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: thisismyusername on October 27, 2017, 11:13:23 PM
i've been breaking them in half the last month or so as opposed to the full dose, seems to round off the edges a bit without too big of a change in overall effect and if restless or whatever i can just take the other half, doctor actually suggested trying it if i wasn't liking the full dose anymore

just an option to keep in mind if it seems too powerful :lol

We'll see, it's 15Mg, so it shouldn't be that bad. :doge
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Prinny_Dood on October 28, 2017, 11:51:35 AM
This week I talked to my therapist about my relationship with my mother. She wants me to be more assertive with her and not be afraid to say something that she might disagree with.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on November 01, 2017, 06:30:43 PM
So, as you'll remember around June/Julyish I had a bit of a nervous breakdown. Breakdown is too big a word, I could still function but my whole life was a bunch of dread and I was beyond burnt out. The doc put me on some paxil to help calm the nerves. I had a heart to to heart with the boss and scaled back work. Certainly from  July to about mid September the paxil helped me keep things together. But my perscription ran out like 2 or 3 weeks ago and I've just been too busy to go and get it refilled, but I'm actually finding I'm doing relatively alright. I think a lot of it has to do with my wife helping me out and giving someone to communicate with and also getting work back to human levels. Now, truth be told, I don't think I could be where I am without the paxil helping a bit to get me to a point where I could get things to a more amenable place. But I'm wondering if I should stop because I'm feeling better, or if I'm just in a calm before the storm place and shouldn't stop. Any advice?
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: hungrynoob on November 01, 2017, 06:38:02 PM
For sure get your prescription refilled, its not a medication you just stop taking the moment you feel better, takes time.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Positive Touch on November 01, 2017, 09:47:53 PM
what do you do on those days where stuff that usually keeps you ok isnt working
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: chronovore on November 02, 2017, 02:38:44 AM
Follow up with your doctor, see about refilling your scrip.

Talk with your boss, be VERY clear about the tentativeness with which you need to approach any kind of “restored” schedule.  The job I left after a decade had a half dozen full-blown nervous break down victims. Those people were unable to work in their field, just because they let work manage their schedules instead of looking out for their own health.

 Keep talking with your wife, or even get professional talking-therapy help. Being able to discuss things can help you clarify your own thoughts and needs and keep things in line, keep things from overwhelming you.

You’ve got my email, you can also write me anytime! Or voice chat.  I’ll be happy to lend an ear.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on November 02, 2017, 01:07:50 PM
Oh Chrono sempai. I love you  :-*

yeah I think I'll talk to the doc. I've been upfront with my boss. I think he understands that if he pushes too hard I'm just done. I know it sounds bad, but my boss had 2 nervous breakdowns (worse than mine, he was hospitalized for a while) earlier this year because of the stress of the job so he's been there , and if he hadn't had those he might not be so sympathetic. So that's good on that front.

The wife has been fantastic. And I'll take a serious look into that professional turkey help.  :thinking
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: chronovore on November 02, 2017, 08:16:47 PM
:heartbeat

SUPER glad to hear your boss is empathetic to your situation. It's less inspiring to hear that the problem is anecdotally common in your work…?
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on November 02, 2017, 11:55:42 PM
:heartbeat

SUPER glad to hear your boss is empathetic to your situation. It's less inspiring to hear that the problem is anecdotally common in your work…?
Yeah. I mean I think if my boss hadn't been so understanding I'd no longer be with the company. It's interesting in that 2016 was the roughest year for our company financially. We had a bunch of struggles trying to transform and survive. Now in 2017 our problems are the exact opposite. There's too much and a few of us are drowning. Luckily I think we've pulled ahead of the storm but it's interesting how success can often be much more stressful than failure.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Huff on November 03, 2017, 10:09:24 AM
Not much to add puppy, just that we usually suggest a taper off SSRI as they can have withdrawl symptoms (frequency and severity depending on the specific med and person of course). But if you've been off for a while, that would be over.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: thisismyusername on November 04, 2017, 11:58:27 PM
Jolts waking you up in the middle of the night one of those taper problems?
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Huff on November 05, 2017, 10:22:59 PM
I didn't know before, but apparently yes

Here's a quick article on them I found

https://m.choosehelp.com/topics/depression/dealing-with-the-brain-zaps-during-ssri-snri-or-tramadol-withdrawal

I can't cosign that the vitamins or shit will work to help, but are pretty benign if you use them
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: thisismyusername on November 05, 2017, 10:28:09 PM
I was more talking like a seizure but not a seizure (not sure how to best describe it) but it only happened one day. I had more "blood draining out of" feelings around my left-eyeball which was kinda cool in a demented way a couple of days. :lol
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 05, 2017, 10:29:24 PM
Fallen into a funk again.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on November 07, 2017, 08:34:30 PM
Ugh today was the first day of the hardest time of year for me — when I leave in the dark and get home in the dark
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: bluemax on November 07, 2017, 11:08:19 PM
Went and spent a day with a friend and her dogs this past weekend, thought  I was emotionally read for that but I definitely was not. Already felt like I was kind of in a funk but been even worse since.

I think one of the things that really didn't help (not my friends fault in anyway) was when my friend was talking to her dogs about going on a family walk on Sunday and it made me think about a situation years ago where I thought I was building a family with my gf at the time and the dogs we had, and now all of that is gone.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: thisismyusername on November 07, 2017, 11:32:09 PM
Ugh today was the first day of the hardest time of year for me — when I leave in the dark and get home in the dark

Ha, I know that feeling. Today (well yesterday) felt slow as hell for me. Speaking getting home in the dark: I kinda want to take a vacation in Alaska sometime in the summer since apparently they get daylight even at like 3AM there for a month or two. Would be rad to experience once or twice in my life.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: desert punk on November 08, 2017, 03:09:00 AM
Autumn and early winter is the hardest time for me too. Though after a while I come to appreciate the early nights: Having the day off on a cold, foggy day with dusk settling in somewhere around 4 pm, and you sitting on the warm couch playing vidya or doing other loser nerd stuff without feeling remorse for not going outside - that's a nice feeling  :P
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Trent Dole on November 08, 2017, 06:17:08 AM
Ugh today was the first day of the hardest time of year for me — when I leave in the dark and get home in the dark
Yeah here in the nw I think I am not going to see the sun at all for a few months.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on November 08, 2017, 01:03:56 PM
Ugh today was the first day of the hardest time of year for me — when I leave in the dark and get home in the dark
Dude, that's so me. I don't know why, but I hate driving in the dark, not because of anxiety or anything, it just depresses me. Getting to work and it's dark, leave and it's dark is all kinds of despressing for me.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: chronovore on November 08, 2017, 06:23:08 PM
Ugh today was the first day of the hardest time of year for me — when I leave in the dark and get home in the dark
Dude, that's so me. I don't know why, but I hate driving in the dark, not because of anxiety or anything, it just depresses me. Getting to work and it's dark, leave and it's dark is all kinds of despressing for me.

That kind of thing is depressing for anyone except Dracula.

We feel like we've been at work over half of the day, we know that we've missed ALL of the sunshine by being indoors all day long. If possible, take your breaks outside and walk around. Juice up on Vitamin D from the sun in the moments you can.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on November 09, 2017, 08:19:30 AM
Sometimes I can't tell if I fucked everything up or if this is just the way things are supposed to be. Nostalgia is a bitch.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: thisismyusername on November 09, 2017, 09:07:28 AM
Sometimes I can't tell if I fucked everything up or if this is just the way things are supposed to be. Nostalgia is a bitch.

Better than feeling unwanted and that everyone hates you. :doge (Kill me.gif)
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: ToxicAdam on November 09, 2017, 09:07:35 AM
It might be a placebo effect, but going tanning once a week during this time of the year helps me adjust. I go in the low watt bed where you can lay down for 20 minutes. Works as a way to meditate also.

Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: agrajag on November 09, 2017, 09:11:09 AM
If you get sunburn easily, do you put sunblock in a tanning bed?
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: desert punk on November 09, 2017, 10:42:59 AM
It might be a placebo effect, but going tanning once a week during this time of the year helps me adjust. I go in the low watt bed where you can lay down for 20 minutes. Works as a way to meditate also.

Lots of people visit tanning saloons to combat their winter blues, so I think there is more to it than it just being a placebo effect. Personally it never worked that way for me. I guess artificial sun light just doesn't do it for me. I need blue sky and the heat, the smells and the half-naked chicks of a warm summer day to actually convince me that it's anything other than a drab winter day.

If you get sunburn easily, do you put sunblock in a tanning bed?

I think there is an even a higher risk of getting sunburns while tanning, because the radiation is way stronger than what natural sun light emits. Tho if it's just for the winter blues you can use a low watt bed like ToxicAdam described.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Positive Touch on November 09, 2017, 12:12:43 PM
it's called phototherapy

https://twitter.com/CuntryCounselor/status/926074932676694016
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on November 09, 2017, 12:36:39 PM
Yeah I’ve thought about getting a sun lamp
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Tokyosandblaster on November 09, 2017, 12:43:23 PM
Yeah, it can be rough.

When you say depression here, do you mean the clinical type? It probably doesn't matter, as every person on Earth is vulnerable to depression at times. Just wondering if you've seen a professional at any point.
Did you see a professional after Hilary fucked us?
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: benjipwns on November 09, 2017, 05:49:11 PM
The only problem with those therapy lamps I've found is that they're kinda shitty light for well anything you'd want to use a light for, especially if they don't have an adjustable bulb. And I feel dumb dragging it over by my desk or something just to blast myself with magic light while I use the computer which is really the only place to do it.

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Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Bebpo on November 09, 2017, 09:33:10 PM
The combination of the daylight savings thing (dark) combined with weather finally cooling and having missed out on all the social stuff for the last couple of weeks due to illness (missing Halloween sucked), still having that illness sorta and not sure what it is and running tests, only eating like 1.5 times a day and being malnourished, not having any social stuff going on and not feeling the energy to reach out to any new social stuff, being out of exercise for weeks because of illness and having finished up the last rpg I was playing last weekend so nothing to focus on hobby-wise atm; = bad combo. Been depressed & lethargic all week, mostly reading books in bed and sleeping when not at work. Also kinda dropped off the map on all my dating stuff because not in the mood.

Apparently tomorrow is a holiday, so 3 day weekend, but got nothing going on with my life so that just feels like a lot of time. Probably should start up another rpg and time will fly by.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: chronovore on November 09, 2017, 09:34:57 PM
The combination of the daylight savings thing (dark) combined with weather finally cooling and having missed out on all the social stuff for the last couple of weeks due to illness (missing Halloween sucked), still having that illness sorta and not sure what it is and running tests, only eating like 1.5 times a day and being malnourished, not having any social stuff going on and not feeling the energy to reach out to any new social stuff, being out of exercise for weeks because of illness and having finished up the last rpg I was playing last weekend so nothing to focus on hobby-wise atm; = bad combo. Been depressed & lethargic all week, mostly reading books in bed and sleeping when not at work.

Apparently tomorrow is a holiday, so 3 day weekend, but got nothing going on with my life so that just feels like a lot of time. Probably should start up another rpg and time will fly by.

I hate to be /that/ asshole, but get out of your house, go to a park or café, and read there. Be around other people. You're a sweet guy, and you have a better chance of meeting new people ANYWHERE that isn't you-alone-in-your-living-room.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: benjipwns on November 09, 2017, 09:37:25 PM
meeting new people while alone in your living room is a whole different issue
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on November 10, 2017, 01:51:56 AM
Sometimes I can't tell if I fucked everything up or if this is just the way things are supposed to be. Nostalgia is a bitch.

Better than feeling unwanted and that everyone hates you. :doge (Kill me.gif)
Well I want you timu :uguu
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on November 10, 2017, 03:07:08 AM
Fuck Daylight Savings Time right in the booty tube.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: desert punk on November 10, 2017, 03:30:08 AM
Fuck Daylight Savings Time right in the booty tube.

Indeed. The idea that it's beneficial for saving energy has already been disproven anyway.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Bebpo on November 10, 2017, 04:18:45 AM
The combination of the daylight savings thing (dark) combined with weather finally cooling and having missed out on all the social stuff for the last couple of weeks due to illness (missing Halloween sucked), still having that illness sorta and not sure what it is and running tests, only eating like 1.5 times a day and being malnourished, not having any social stuff going on and not feeling the energy to reach out to any new social stuff, being out of exercise for weeks because of illness and having finished up the last rpg I was playing last weekend so nothing to focus on hobby-wise atm; = bad combo. Been depressed & lethargic all week, mostly reading books in bed and sleeping when not at work.

Apparently tomorrow is a holiday, so 3 day weekend, but got nothing going on with my life so that just feels like a lot of time. Probably should start up another rpg and time will fly by.

I hate to be /that/ asshole, but get out of your house, go to a park or café, and read there. Be around other people. You're a sweet guy, and you have a better chance of meeting new people ANYWHERE that isn't you-alone-in-your-living-room.

It's more that when I'm not feeling well either because depression (low energy) or physically feeling sick, I don't feel like interacting with others.

Like, I'm not dying, but when I'm really sick and I feel like I'm dying, the last thing I'm thinking of is meeting new people.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: benjipwns on November 11, 2017, 02:05:06 AM
Fuck Daylight Savings Time right in the booty tube.

Indeed. The idea that it's beneficial for saving energy has already been disproven anyway.
It's to promote extended hours of retail shopping and tourism. :hans1
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on November 12, 2017, 12:02:29 AM
Trying to think of things to talk about with the therapist for when I finally go.

I really want to talk about this in particular.  They really speak true to my experience.

https://www.elephantjournal.com/2016/03/what-emotional-neglect-really-looks-like/
https://wehavekids.com/parenting/The-Long-Term-Effects-of-Childhood-Emotional-Neglect

I'm still coming to terms that I was abused as a child. For a long time I thought I had nothing to complain about because I had three meals a day and at least I had parents. But the physical stuff, being beaten (like, not spanked but really beaten), told my feelings didn't (and still don't) matter, told I wasn't loved by my dad;etc. is making it all start to make sense. Even now I still think maybe I'm making it out of nothing. It was normal parenting. They tried to be good parents. They tried and that was enough. I just don't know, and that is why I drink.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on November 12, 2017, 12:21:49 AM
I visited the folks the other day and they didn't really talk to me and my dad sends me a text to bring him the BBQ potato chips. I do and I'm opening them for him but instead he says,"give them to me, don't want potato chips spilled all over the place" when he dropped a glass of tomato sauce while prepping cooking dinner. I'm even criticized for doing basic acts of kindness. Yet I still question if this just me being a bitch.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: chronovore on November 12, 2017, 01:52:50 AM
I visited the folks the other day and they didn't really talk to me and my dad sends me a text to bring him the BBQ potato chips. I do and I'm opening them for him but instead he says,"give them to me, don't want potato chips spilled all over the place" when he dropped a glass of tomato sauce while prepping cooking dinner. I'm even criticized for doing basic acts of kindness. Yet I still question if this just me being a bitch.

Sure doesn't sound like it. That's just rude of him.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: benjipwns on November 12, 2017, 02:55:26 AM
Not to make too much light of it since I don't have that line that stops me, but that's like so bad at being a jerk it's funny :lol

Not even as someone's father or family, but just as a fellow human, do me the dignity of coming up with better shit excuses, even "hey be careful with not crushing them" is better.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: benjipwns on November 12, 2017, 02:56:00 AM
Though in his defense, maybe he just spent six hours watching all of these on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eMCURWpNAg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1ZbwqXQZPo
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on November 12, 2017, 06:32:35 AM
Though in his defense, maybe he just spent six hours watching all of these on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eMCURWpNAg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1ZbwqXQZPo

I've never subscribed to a youtube channel so quickly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHT0zSgnFA0

:lol
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: desert punk on November 12, 2017, 07:08:14 AM
I visited the folks the other day and they didn't really talk to me and my dad sends me a text to bring him the BBQ potato chips. I do and I'm opening them for him but instead he says,"give them to me, don't want potato chips spilled all over the place" when he dropped a glass of tomato sauce while prepping cooking dinner. I'm even criticized for doing basic acts of kindness. Yet I still question if this just me being a bitch.

I'm sensitive to things like that too but I'm not sure your dad was intentionally rude here. My father still treats me like a child and doesn't think me capable of doing the most basic things. So when I try to do something for him he's like "Yeah just gimme that, I'll do it." or something like that. There's no intentional malice there and I think a lot of parents are acting that way. Though of course I don't know your relationship with your parents to judge that correctly.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on November 12, 2017, 07:23:33 AM
I visited the folks the other day and they didn't really talk to me and my dad sends me a text to bring him the BBQ potato chips. I do and I'm opening them for him but instead he says,"give them to me, don't want potato chips spilled all over the place" when he dropped a glass of tomato sauce while prepping cooking dinner. I'm even criticized for doing basic acts of kindness. Yet I still question if this just me being a bitch.

I'm sensitive to things like that too but I'm not sure your dad was intentionally rude here. My father still treats me like a child and doesn't think me capable of doing the most basic things. So when I try to do something for him he's like "Yeah just gimme that, I'll do it." or something like that. There's no intentional malice there and I think a lot of parents are acting that way. Though of course I don't know your relationship with your parents to judge that correctly.

Nope. If it were just one thing, it'd be one thing. But it's not just one thing. It's just a series of things where my feelings aren't considered. Let's take his birthday this year. I ask what he wants to do for his birthday and he says he's going to spend it with my cousin. I suggest that we should do something and he tells no. "It's my birthday." Or how about,"Do you ever feel guilty that you are killing me?" He genuine thinks I am trying to shorten his lifespan. I asked for money from my family once because I was in dire straights and needed support. He finds out and he tells me to never ask his family for money ever again. "I'll stop smoking when you stop being an asshole", "Disney takes the best of the best, you aren't the best." Or the time he threatened to shoot me. etc. etc.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: desert punk on November 12, 2017, 08:08:14 AM
Sorry, I didn't know that. Yeah that's different of course. That shit's abusive behavior.

It ain't my place to say but if it were me, I'd probably cut ties with this man at one point. But that's easy to say from someone on the outside, though I don't know what other advice to give you, other than maybe talk to him about his behavior. Tho he sure doesn't sound like someone who would listen to what you'd say.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: chronovore on November 12, 2017, 09:42:57 PM
Crying is a release. You should try crying.


Though in his defense, maybe he just spent six hours watching all of these on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eMCURWpNAg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1ZbwqXQZPo

Your post reminded me of this gem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U3Rh9mxcoU
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: hungrynoob on November 13, 2017, 02:20:25 AM
It's so weird to read people who are depressed cry often. Not that it's weird, but I basically never cry. I'm not proud of that or anything like I'm some kind of badass for never crying (although...)

I get the idea people who cry sometimes are better off than people who never have the urge to cry like me. It's weird. I'm weird. Even when my depression was at its worst, I don't cry and don't really show it emotionally outside of having a dead unemotional look on my face. :goty2

Oh well.



I think your emotional state can fluctuate when youre depressed. I for the longest time tried to suppress my real feelings forever, so felt numb until i wasnt able to stop it at one point, then I started crying nightly for a year. Just because you dont feel anything doesnt mean noting is happening, it can be building up. Its better to recognising it, that youre uhappy and not feeling the unhappiness, than it is to let it build up and burst out. Because it might not be crying that it ends up leaking out, it could be anger you could start lashing out at others around you unable to regocnise the changes in yourself.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: shosta on November 13, 2017, 06:25:15 PM
Man, that seasonal shit really does happen, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Bebpo on November 18, 2017, 07:42:06 PM
At one point I realized that the reason I post so much on this forum (gaming-side and movie thread in OT) is because I have no one to talk to in my life about the stuff I like otherwise (well, outside a few IM friends I talk to as well). Like, in real life, on the average day non-work day, I don't open my mouth and actually speak to anyone outside ordering some food. Sometimes I'll go to a meetup and talk a little about small talk stuff with others and that's great, and on work days I'll talk with my co-workers; plus I call up my family and talk every few days.

But all my real life friends who were into videogames or movies or whatever all got married and became unavailable more than like once a month or two or three or four (I met up with a friend last weekend that I invited out for eight months before they were free to grab a bite); plus half my friends moved out of state. So I have pretty much zero irl close friends I can hang out with and talk about games or movies or things that I spend a good part of my free time, or shoot the shit and talk about whatever.

Anyhow, if anyone was ever wondering why I post so much on the gaming-side, that's why. No irl friends to talk about stuff, and these conversations here are like 90% of the conversations I ever have with other people outside work. I live a very alone life and I definitely don't think it's healthy psychologically. 
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on November 18, 2017, 07:53:57 PM
I'm sorta the same way man. Everyone I know in real life wants to talk sports or is boring. I'm here for you breh :doge
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: chronovore on November 18, 2017, 09:37:41 PM
Same here, to both you dudes. Working from home, socializing is a challenging task!
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Rufus on November 18, 2017, 09:57:44 PM
Basically me post Uni, but I don't mind (which may or may not be indicative of something being wrong with me).
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Bebpo on November 18, 2017, 10:02:51 PM
I'm sorta the same way man. Everyone I know in real life wants to talk sports or is boring. I'm here for you breh :doge

whoops, double post
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Bebpo on November 18, 2017, 10:06:46 PM
I'm sorta the same way man. Everyone I know in real life wants to talk sports or is boring. I'm here for you breh :doge

Thanks  :doge

Yeah, I've got one non-married friend whose pretty available to hang and we do, but he's not into games at all and more of a sports/drinking/party guy so we mostly just talk about dating and movies a little bit. I'm not super depressed about it or anything, I have some friends irl, family and a social acquaintances from social stuff I go to occassionally, just no one I can talk about games with ><

Same here, to both you dudes. Working from home, socializing is a challenging task!

This was really tough for me when I was working from home while doing some freelance game article stuff. It's also hard to keep cutoff points for work on/work off.

Basically me post Uni, but I don't mind (which may or may not be indicative of something being wrong with me).

I find it nice and relaxing at times, but I'm most happy when I have a balance. Half the nights socializing irl, out doing social things, half the days in playing games or reading a book or watching a movie.  But tends to be more like 1 night a week getting out socially and 6 nights staying in reclusive >< 
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: chronovore on November 18, 2017, 11:19:08 PM
Same here, to both you dudes. Working from home, socializing is a challenging task!
This was really tough for me when I was working from home while doing some freelance game article stuff. It's also hard to keep cutoff points for work on/work off.
I've JUST started using Pomordoro method on Thursday. So far, pretty great results.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: chronovore on November 29, 2017, 05:07:10 PM
choas depression is a scale
Sure, absolutely. But Viktor Frankl observed that sadness is like a gas: it can expand to fill any volume.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on November 29, 2017, 08:34:02 PM
So...I'm watching tv and the parent gives the teenager advice and the teenager can actually come to their parents about their problems without  it being put aside. Because of how I was raised where my opinions weren't valued I've always wondered if that's how parents acted in real life. The thought of being able to go to your parent for help or advice or them actually caring is foreign to me so the way parents and children act on tv always felt lacking genuity to me. Is that how parents are actually like?
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: chronovore on November 29, 2017, 08:37:47 PM
depression and sadness ain't the same thing tho :doge
That's fair.

Are you saying there's no connection?
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Yeti on November 29, 2017, 09:26:21 PM
So...I'm watching tv and the parent gives the teenager advice and the teenager can actually come to their parents about their problems with it being put aside. Because of how I was raised where my opinions weren't valued I've always wondered if that's how parents acted in real life. The thought of being able to go to your parent for help or advice or them actually caring is foreign to me so the way parents and children act on tv always felt lacking genuity to me. Is that how parents are actually like?

Parents are just people, there are good ones and bad ones. I think most parents have that empathy for their kids where they help them out, or at least try to. From what I've heard of your parents they it sounds like they aren't even trying. You deserved better. You deserve better.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Bebpo on December 05, 2017, 04:07:48 AM
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Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Bebpo on December 05, 2017, 08:57:40 AM
Ok, got a new room and it’s normal sound levels now (instead of someone showering over your head 24/7). Got a jazz heritage tour in 2 hours so probably won’t sleep until the afternoon, but actually sleeping after 2 nights of no sleep should help my mood.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Bebpo on December 05, 2017, 05:11:06 PM
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Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: chronovore on December 05, 2017, 07:20:13 PM
Eat a beignet for me!
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Tasty on December 05, 2017, 10:53:25 PM
Hope you feel better soon Wrath. Thinking of you. :heart
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Bebpo on December 05, 2017, 11:18:36 PM
Eat a beignet for me!

I don't really get beignets, though I'm sure that will pick a fight with some people here.

I've had them in CA and they're eh, I've had them twice here at two different famous spots and eh. They're basically donuts that are less tasty/satisfying/filling?...what's the point?

I'd rather have a croissant or a donut. This is some less satisfying middle ground and you get the powdered suger all over your lips and it turns gooey and feels gross until you wipe it off.

Otoh, the chicory(?) coffee is good. When I heard it was made from a terrible tasting tea that they pour coffee into 80/20 to hide the taste I was expecting something bad, but it tastes solid coffee.

At this point I've tried most of the snack+caffeine drink styles around the world and my favorite has got to be the English afternoon tea and a light slice of cake. That shit is relaxing and tasty and gives you a moment of peace and joy in a day. I guess I'm an old British grandma or something because I love that custom.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on December 13, 2017, 08:27:21 PM
You know when you think you're getting better and then one day just crash and it all falls apart? Today is one of those days for me. It's my first December as a Christian since I was a teenager and I can't be happy.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 13, 2017, 08:45:22 PM
I crash like ever 4 months. 
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: thisismyusername on December 14, 2017, 12:03:49 AM
So I stopped Remeron for a week without telling the docs because I wanted to see what happened.

For one: My insomnia came back, it was manage-able and I got sleep but falling asleep (which was the biggest issue before the meds) came back hard. Nothing an energy drink and a nap in the evening couldn't fix.


They wanted me to start Wellbutrin, but I did like one day of that, didn't see any improvement on it in regards to energy levels (I was still tired from the Remeron) and said "fuck that" and didn't take any of the others in the bottle since.

I don't feel any better or worse with these meds or off these meds. They stop me from crying randomly, which is alright... I guess. But my motivation is still shot, I still hate myself severely and wish I was dead daily due to various life-factors. So, I mean... why should I continue to take these meds outside of the Remeron knocking my ass out?

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I'm half wondering if a Remeron overdose would at least make me sleep perma. :doge
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Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 14, 2017, 12:31:21 AM
Just turned in a class project that went exceedingly bad.  Part of the reason for that is depression hit me the last 2 months and i've been in a brain fog.  Literally, all I want to do is sleep. 
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on December 14, 2017, 11:43:38 PM
Bye
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 15, 2017, 12:37:15 AM
You OK?
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on December 15, 2017, 02:32:52 AM
More and more I want to kill myself and I already know that's likely how I'm going to go out.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on December 15, 2017, 02:35:51 AM
Hang in there. I need someone to banter theology with
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on December 15, 2017, 02:37:25 AM
Ayyyy fuck off you haven't talked to me about that in months
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Tasty on December 15, 2017, 02:39:41 AM
I thought things were OK? You were able to get your hormones, right? You seemed pretty excited after that.

I will say that I was pretty worried about you after that episode, but you told me you'd be fine after getting the hormones.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on December 15, 2017, 02:40:20 AM
Hang in there. I need someone to tell me to fuck off
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Tasty on December 15, 2017, 02:43:34 AM
I hate to do this, but speaking of: isn't suicide like a big deal in Catholicism?
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on December 15, 2017, 02:49:27 AM
I was doing ok. I'm hanging on, but things are hard. My car is in the shop and I can can't afford to get it out. I haven't been able to afford jiu jitsu in two months so now I owe two months back and that's 360 dollars, which I don't have. Month three is coming up soon so that'll be 540 dollars. Jiu jitsu helps me stay sane and non depressive because of the HIIT exercise I get from it. I can barely afford rent and I feel stuck. I've been looking into escorting and getting tips from escorts like on how to screen clients and stuff. In fact, I will be starting as an escort and take clients as soon as I get my car and some spare change to afford hotels. I spent thanksgiving alone. I'll be spending Christmas alone as well. The Disney-Fox buyout and net neutrality thing also have me on wits end as I see both decisions as profound evil that goes against every moral compass in my body which is funny because I highly considered ending it after seeing Episode 8. Basically, life is shit and there's nothing to look forward to except the day we all die to finally escape.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: bork on December 15, 2017, 06:28:48 AM
Himu, please call the national suicide prevention hotline or speak to someone at your church or just speak to anyone about this.  Please.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: hungrynoob on December 15, 2017, 07:12:48 AM
I was doing ok. I'm hanging on, but things are hard. My car is in the shop and I can can't afford to get it out. I haven't been able to afford jiu jitsu in two months so now I owe two months back and that's 360 dollars, which I don't have. Month three is coming up soon so that'll be 540 dollars. Jiu jitsu helps me stay sane and non depressive because of the HIIT exercise I get from it. I can barely afford rent and I feel stuck. I've been looking into escorting and getting tips from escorts like on how to screen clients and stuff. In fact, I will be starting as an escort and take clients as soon as I get my car and some spare change to afford hotels. I spent thanksgiving alone. I'll be spending Christmas alone as well. The Disney-Fox buyout and net neutrality thing also have me on wits end as I see both decisions as profound evil that goes against every moral compass in my body which is funny because I highly considered ending it after seeing Episode 8. Basically, life is shit and there's nothing to look forward to except the day we all die to finally escape.

180 dollars a month for jiu jitsu? holy shit that is expensive, is eddie bravo teaching you personally? If you can barely afford rent, you need to prioritise in the short term, yes jiu jitsu probably makes you feel better, but the financial committments without the monetry supply will add to the stess and the depression ten-fold, money is one of the biggest continuing factors of low mood and its something i know a bit about. That alone will make you feel like youve lost contol of your life, and tbh you will cling to jiu jitsu as one of the last things that make you happy, but I think you should seriously weigh up whether that outweighs the negative impact of losing that much money has on your life. I'm going to make an educated assumption, and say most times out of 10, that answer is its not, but you need to answer that honestly to yourself.

Start cutting out shit that you can live without, so you can at least survive, gain a little control and once you get to that point, start planning how you want to do start achieving things that are going to make you feel better again. Speaking to a counsellor throughout that process can help. But the longer you keep feeling powerless the worse you will feel.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on December 15, 2017, 09:32:06 AM
Uhhhhh 1. BJJ is expensive no matter where you are. 2. It should be obvious from my language that I am in a contract and therefore legally obligated to pay. It is basically another bill at this point.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: bork on December 15, 2017, 11:53:00 AM
What is obvious from your language is that you are in dire need of help and I urge you to speak with someone.  Are there any family members that you can move in with, to cut out rent, until you get back on your feet?
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on December 15, 2017, 12:10:10 PM
I'm trying to get help. Also preparing to become a ho.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: benjipwns on December 15, 2017, 12:15:12 PM
Before you make further decisions. As your attorney I am required to notify you about certain aspects of the law.

Like how I'm not licensed to practice law anywhere.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on December 15, 2017, 01:08:42 PM
Tried the church and there's nothing they can do.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: bork on December 15, 2017, 02:27:15 PM
Becoming a prostitute doesn't sound like a very smart or safe life choice.  If debt is the issue, aren't there services that can help with that sort of thing?
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: shosta on December 15, 2017, 02:37:37 PM
Yeah, like a job

Anyway she can get a 2k per year salary increase by just dropping jiu jitsu.

Himu, your only chance at being happy is by making a plan to have a functioning life. Things are rough now but you gotta survive. Do what you need to do but bounce your ideas off people with a level head because you might not be in the best decision making place right now. If you're really doing that bad there are government services for you. You can make it work.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on December 15, 2017, 04:57:20 PM
Becoming a prostitute doesn't sound like a very smart or safe life choice.  If debt is the issue, aren't there services that can help with that sort of thing?

:lol

It's the best choice at this point. I'm tired of being poor and without prospects.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on December 15, 2017, 06:11:35 PM
If I don't get 180 bucks before the 20th I'm fucked. :brazilcry
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on December 16, 2017, 01:48:32 AM
My friend and I said we'd start escorting together and that we'd' support one another. She had her first client the other day! He didn't fuck her though. They just kinda talked and she got paid? I'm scared but looking forward to getting paid. Some escorts brag about bringing in 10k a month. :hyper Give me money!
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: shosta on December 16, 2017, 02:10:05 AM
If you're hot you're going to end up dead or in jail. If you're not you're just going to stay broke or do increasingly dangerous things to get small amounts of money. Don't become a street ho.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on December 16, 2017, 02:15:32 AM
I am going to trade from things like backpage. Screening my first client now.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on December 16, 2017, 02:26:55 AM
If you're hot you're going to end up dead or in jail. If you're not you're just going to stay broke or do increasingly dangerous things to get small amounts of money. Don't become a street ho.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=4451781&page=1

The money :drool
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: benjipwns on December 16, 2017, 02:39:53 AM
that was spring 2008 tho
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on December 16, 2017, 02:42:03 AM
that was spring 2008 tho

I know lots of escorts and they make amazing cash
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: benjipwns on December 16, 2017, 02:50:40 AM
After taxes? :teehee
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: HardcoreRetro on December 16, 2017, 10:01:34 AM
If I don't get 180 bucks before the 20th I'm fucked. :brazilcry

With your new plan you end up fucked either way.

(Hope the awful joke cheers you up.)

https://youtu.be/IEgkDuJyI0U

Here's some music that cheered me up in my darkest period.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on December 16, 2017, 10:39:34 AM
If you’re going to do sex work have you thought about being an Internet ho instead? You could start camming, sell access to a snap chat, hopefully hook a whale that will pay you for attention, etc. Safer than meeting johns. Recommended reading: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23122113-ho-tactics
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on December 16, 2017, 02:17:05 PM
I'd rather do actual hooking. More reward.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on December 18, 2017, 03:04:49 PM
I seriously don't get the point in continuing to live. Even if I ever become happy, it'll become short lived. I can't have children so I can't pass on my genes. The likelihood of me finding love and getting married is maybe 1%. I'm seriously considering ending it. I don't get the point anymore.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: benjipwns on December 18, 2017, 03:35:24 PM
to see what happens
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: benjipwns on December 18, 2017, 05:14:24 PM
So I stopped Remeron for a week without telling the docs because I wanted to see what happened.

For one: My insomnia came back, it was manage-able and I got sleep but falling asleep (which was the biggest issue before the meds) came back hard. Nothing an energy drink and a nap in the evening couldn't fix.
You try cracking the Remeron in half? At first it was like you described but then I sorta adjusted to it to where I felt like I had more control than the full dose, could let it knock me out, or say "knock me out for just six hours" which has to totally be Placebo. But I'm fine with Placebo, it's a great drug, and cheap.

I can't say anything positive about Wellbutrin as I noted before in here and elsewhere I couldn't ever tell if I had taken it or not aside from the fact that I set my pills out each day as routine compulsion. I guess one good thing about that is you don't have to ease off it, you can just stop. I would have suggested you try a week or so at least, I mean, if you've already got them it couldn't hurt. And if nothing fuck em. And their stupid commercials.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: benjipwns on December 18, 2017, 05:20:25 PM
i just wasted five minutes looking for a clip from the Dilbert TV show where they replace all the company's medical care with "wonder drugs" call PLAH-SEA-BO

seems like if you want a late 1990s poorly rated cartoon series clip uploaded on YouTube you just have to do it yourself (see also, The Critic)
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: chronovore on December 20, 2017, 08:39:54 PM
I seriously don't get the point in continuing to live. Even if I ever become happy, it'll become short lived. I can't have children so I can't pass on my genes. The likelihood of me finding love and getting married is maybe 1%. I'm seriously considering ending it. I don't get the point anymore.

There's research going on where DNA from both parents in a same-sex marriage could be mixed. But that's just genetics; you can adopt and benefit from your memetic legacy being passed to another generation.

But don't sit on those dark thoughts. Call a hotline. Get actual help. 1-800-273-8255
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2017, 09:09:46 PM
I feel much better after paying my bills. The extra stress from the bills sent me over the edge.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 20, 2017, 09:12:50 PM
i just wasted five minutes looking for a clip from the Dilbert TV show where they replace all the company's medical care with "wonder drugs" call PLAH-SEA-BO

seems like if you want a late 1990s poorly rated cartoon series clip uploaded on YouTube you just have to do it yourself (see also, The Critic)

I like the episodes with the funny foreign people. :lol
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: hungrynoob on December 21, 2017, 04:37:56 PM
I feel much better after paying my bills. The extra stress from the bills sent me over the edge.

I think the advice to seek help is still valid, there was a lot going on behind just the bills, is it only going to take one more missed bill to send you right back? Happiness can come in many forms which can be hard to see when you are surrounded by very little of it. Depression can open your mind in many ways whilst making you blind at the same time. To find happiness you need to start building your foundation now; that allows you to start looking to the future and living the rest of your life. And not to the past, being able to allow yourself to drop all negativity youve experienced up until now thats put you there and developing the tools necessary mentally to ovecome those challenges.

it's just a recommendation though, you're obviously free to do whatever you want. And whilst you must make that decision on your own, if people genuinely think youre choosing the best thing for you, they will support you.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: thisismyusername on December 23, 2017, 12:15:34 AM
So I stopped Remeron for a week without telling the docs because I wanted to see what happened.

For one: My insomnia came back, it was manage-able and I got sleep but falling asleep (which was the biggest issue before the meds) came back hard. Nothing an energy drink and a nap in the evening couldn't fix.
You try cracking the Remeron in half? At first it was like you described but then I sorta adjusted to it to where I felt like I had more control than the full dose, could let it knock me out, or say "knock me out for just six hours" which has to totally be Placebo. But I'm fine with Placebo, it's a great drug, and cheap.

I can't say anything positive about Wellbutrin as I noted before in here and elsewhere I couldn't ever tell if I had taken it or not aside from the fact that I set my pills out each day as routine compulsion. I guess one good thing about that is you don't have to ease off it, you can just stop. I would have suggested you try a week or so at least, I mean, if you've already got them it couldn't hurt. And if nothing fuck em. And their stupid commercials.

Catching up on this. No, I haven't broken them in half. It works so I haven't bothered with messing with it.

I haven't taken it in a few days and so I have been waking up in the middle of the night/sleep problems again. I'm starting to think I'm either dependent on it or I'm pretty much gonna have to be on meds 24/7 to have no issues sleeping.

I haven't really noticed anything huge in a spike increase with Wellbutrin, so I'm going to drop that this coming week when I go in for a review.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: HardcoreRetro on December 25, 2017, 01:46:25 PM
Does anyone know if anti-depressants help with listlessness

They helped me with that 2 years back. (And are still helping me with it.) I basically went from staying in bed all day hoping I'd not wake up the next morning to actually trying to get my life back on track.

But as said in Cindi's anti-depressant thread, it's pretty much a crapshoot. Just gotta find what works for you.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: HardcoreRetro on December 26, 2017, 07:29:37 AM
The anti-depressants take something like two weeks to a month to work properly. And at first they might actually make you feel worse.

Just make sure that's the exercise is actually helping and that it isn't just that you're afraid of taking the pills. Cause you might be hamstringing yourself in that case.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: VomKriege on December 27, 2017, 03:02:16 AM
Did the doctor tell you why she wouldn't ? Pills can help but shouldn't be given lightly. She might have a point.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Bebpo on January 07, 2018, 04:41:35 PM
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Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: eleuin on January 09, 2018, 12:14:33 AM
I saw your post beb and I have nothing to add other than empathizing with a lot of what you said. The blurred lines of sexual attraction probably bothers me the least, but that one's only a "problem" in the sense that I'd get disowned if I ever talked about it  :doge
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on January 09, 2018, 12:22:19 AM
I glmpsed it earlier and didn't get to see it in full because I was exhausted and wanted to come back to it, and I'm frankly disappointed you've deleted it. You need help. We are vulnerable in this thread. At least try to trust us.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Bebpo on January 09, 2018, 02:22:17 AM
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Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on January 09, 2018, 02:25:41 AM
It's okay. There's ways to hide things without outright deleting them. Do you mind writing a summary of what you originally wrote?
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Bebpo on January 09, 2018, 02:30:24 AM
I don't even know outside some general points. It was literally just a train of thoughts. It's ok though, I'll get those thoughts again and will post stuff again as I always do every so often in this thread.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: chronovore on January 09, 2018, 05:57:41 PM
 I read it all, and empathized with it.

You’re a sweet, kind, and caring man. You are in touch enough with your own feelings that you recognize attraction in many forms. I have that, too That’s a gift, not a problem. Or, rather, it is whatever your thinking makes it out to be, to paraphrase Mark Twain.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on January 15, 2018, 09:10:58 PM
That was intense. I'm glad you're doing better and looking forward, thanks for sharing that.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: chronovore on January 15, 2018, 10:45:59 PM
I wrote about when I planned to kill myself in 2016 and what happened after. (http://thisiswhereyoullfind.me/2018/01/15/this-is-where-youll-find-me/)

I haven't taken the time to write anything in so long and I feel like its all absolute garbage but whatever. I'm getting better at being sad.

I'm glad that things are better, and inspired by your help to others.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: VomKriege on January 16, 2018, 05:10:46 AM
Peace man. Depression is a tough place to be and I've seen people never really leave it after years. But we have to try going forward, no other way out. Thank you for sharing that.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Tasty on January 17, 2018, 01:42:03 PM
I wrote about when I planned to kill myself in 2016 and what happened after. (http://thisiswhereyoullfind.me/2018/01/15/this-is-where-youll-find-me/)

I haven't taken the time to write anything in so long and I feel like its all absolute garbage but whatever. I'm getting better at being sad.

This was a wonderful read (in spite of the content.) You might have some talent as a writer. :)

Thanks for sharing, I know how hard it is to think about this shit - let alone write it down *and* share it. Props man.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: benjipwns on January 17, 2018, 03:19:19 PM
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Her and I spoke about the counselor I was seeing, who I thought wasn’t great, and I could tell she also didn’t think he was great with her repeated use of “we are very aware of that gentlemen and his techniques.
:hitler
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: chronovore on January 23, 2018, 06:48:11 PM
Have any of you looked into this?
http://digg.com/2018/wake-therapy-depression
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: thisismyusername on January 23, 2018, 07:02:50 PM
Have any of you looked into this?
http://digg.com/2018/wake-therapy-depression

I rather they make Ketamine legal. :doge

I've heard anti-depressants are hit and miss to such a degree that some people (the ones that do research) think they're almost pointless. But then why do they exist? And some people do report they help.

This is kinda why I'm in the K-line camp. Despite that being a 10 day uplift, I'd rather be on a trip that is good (or bad, depending on the person of course) and able to help instantly than meds that may or may not work.

Currently, I've been taking my meds but lately my disappointment in my life has come creeping back and I've been having thoughts of self-harm again. Which means this shit may not even be working anymore. :doge
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: hungrynoob on January 25, 2018, 12:35:09 PM
I've kind of avoided this topic for awhile, but ill do a wee update and stuff.

I made the resolution this year to just learn more about myself, and tbh whether i made that resolution or not would have made zero difference, as ive basically been thrust into a rabbit hole of self-discovery i never really thought was possible.

Bit of a backstory, christmas eve in '98 when i was 8 years old basically was a turning point in my life of trauma, caused by my mums situation in life, i never really recovered. so we can say ages 8-25 were a write-off, as ive basically done nothing but get completely drunk, take drugs, do nothing, learn nothing, accrue debt and lose my family. When I was 26 i calmed down a lot, but and stopped a lot of those behaviors except the drinking and doing fuck all. Im now 27. I've never held a relationship for longer than 5 months, and i recycle friends more than i recycle irl. The only benefit is i somehow managed to work my way up in the company im in now, so i have a career i guess - i v lucky to not have lost my job as i went from inconsistently great to inconsistently never around or reliable. . I have been disagnosed with Major Depressive and generalised anxiety. I once had a panic attack, not long after waking up thinking people were breaking into my home to call the police, 5 squad cars to turn up, and noone to be there - most of the time though it just used to be thinking i was going to die from a heart attack all the time.  Please dont read that from a 'woe is me' perspective. I just think it helps if you can relate to anything along the lines of what i said, if not thats ok too.

This kind of started before the new year, and is quite complicated, ill try explain as best i can.

Years back, I started reading some books by dr paul ekman, afte watching the tv show lie to me. There was an interest there in being able to understand peoples emotions using the bigger picture and not just listening to what they say. That dropped off, and whilst i retained some info, i never put it into practice, rather i would infrequently spot something and go "oh cool". That lay dormant for awhile until i picked it up again autumn last year, and I read a few books, materials, watched videos, and kinda just absorbed myself into what at least knew, was an interest for me. My confidence skyrocketed, and my anxiety decreased. I used to be scared to talk to people, now i just wanted to know if they were lying to me or not, and generally i just didnt feel so lost. And i saw peoples emotions everywhere, and it really helped me a lot understand the people i came into contact with rather than always just trying to brush them off.

It was towards the end of the year, I decided to listen to some of the infamous, Jordan Peterson's work on youtube. If theres any of you reading who doesnt know who he is, he is the clincal psychologist who took a stance against the c-16 bill's introduction in Canada, sparking a 'lively' protest at the university of toronto from the leftist social justice movement. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-nvNAcvUPE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-nvNAcvUPE)). I dont particularly want to dwell on this particular side of Peterson's work, but i do want to say this. I dont disagree with him, however, im in a sense glad that he was erroneously combated for being transphobic in his battle against c-16, because without that video i linked to you, I would probably never come across his other work.

As a clincal psychologist he sets out to help people improve their lives and their understanding of life around them, and when you listen to his advice, its so simple, like you knew it all along, but you can feel everything start to click into place to longer you listen to him talk. Which is fascinating for me, because when you go down the body language hole, a lot of it is common sense, and you feel like you knew it all along, but now youre more consciously aware of that fact. Kinda like when someone reminds you that you are breathing manually now, how you switch from subconscious breathing to conscious breathing.

Interestingly, a lot of his work ties into belief systems and ideologies and religions. Which hes dedicated his life to, and is amazing that he ends up in the position he is in now navigating ideologies in modern society.

I started listening to his biblical series, but never really listened as it was what i put on before i went to sleep. But bits and bobs remained. And from that, I guess i became a more open person - i stumbled upon the flower of life just after the new year, and honestly. I dont know what to think. (read about it here: https://www.tokenrock.com/explain-flower-of-life-46.html), which sent me down another rabbit hole of reading about spirituality and conciousness. And ive went from being atheist to agnostic to full "i have no idea wtf is going on around me". Not everything i read around spirituality i take at face value and put all my being behind to give it such weight. But the flower of life, is really fascinating, and gives some credibility to the notion that maybe things are a lot more fucked up than we expect it to be. I had heard numerous of people Peterson metioned who spent their life trying to reconcile the differences between religion and science, and later heard him say that Jung probably was the most significant event within the 20th century because of Jung's work around both human psychology in regards to religion.

I could honestly write a whole lot more, but basically ive taken all this on board, ive been meditating and trying to just expand my mind as much as possible, and its hard to argue that im even the same person i was 6 months ago, because I feel different. I dont stutter or stumble in conversation, i can go after what i want without fear, just an hour ago i went to the shop and genuinely smiled all the way back, people looked more beautiful and a lot of the stress and worry i usually carry with my for that moment was just gone.

I dont cry very often unless im drunk, but last night i was listening to a uk documentary on Peterson, and at the very end, and with the conviction to suffocate me, i cried over the 4 or so mins of his answer to "pre-requisites for true knowledge and understanding" , which for those suffering deep from depression I would hope would resonate with you just as it did with me (https://youtu.be/EjqXXengN1s?t=45m5s (https://youtu.be/EjqXXengN1s?t=45m5s)), when you suffer from trauma or continual negative experiences and end up in a pit of despair. We want to end that, by trying to deflect as much negative experiences in our future as possible by sticking to the devil we know, and remaining in that pit of despair. We run from responsibility, because it is the easy option. After the suffering that caused us to be where we are, part of me believes that we refuse to believe that life is truly that unfair and that our time for prosperity will come, even when multiple times throughout our lives people tell us it wont come, we hide ourselves and wait for the sun to shine on the horizon only for it to remain perpetually dark. And its understandable we feel that way. Part of having an anxiety disorder is that physiologically we have an overactive fight-or-flight response, because in essence, anxiety is an essential human trait. The thing is, the things we tell ourselves everyday, might seem like passing moments, but they hold much more weight and value than we give it credit, and our subconcious is a large part to thank for biological responses to our past and present.

I kinda hold the view at the minute that science and religion are two sides of the same coin, and that the universe exists within balance. Something I have went far to long without. Do I know the answers or expect people here to subscribe to the way i view all this material. Nope.

But i will say this, I can feel my potential again, and im starting to no longer feel lost. I feel strong, and when i started to cry at that peterson documentary last night, at the exact same moment it was as if the world burst into colour around me. Even though ive never been colourblind.

There is a path to recovery for everyone, and if my experience doesnt help that at all, then I hope at the very least leave a little bit of hope that growth is possible, because for the majority of my life, I thought I was pretty much doomed from the start.
















Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: HardcoreRetro on January 25, 2018, 12:42:32 PM
Panic attacks are fun. First time it happened to me I spent the night in the hospital cause neither I or the ambulance guys knew what the fuck was going on.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: hungrynoob on January 25, 2018, 12:52:41 PM
fun after not so fun during.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: HardcoreRetro on January 26, 2018, 04:29:15 AM
Luckily we Dutch folks got that new campaign by the government.

"Hey! Laten we er over praten."

Amazing ad by people that seem to think having a shit day is the same as having chronic depression/major depression. It's like one of my female friends going: "Go do some fun stuff." Yeah thanks, I never thought of trying that before.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: hungrynoob on January 26, 2018, 05:24:33 AM
Keep an open mind though and consider you may be your own worst enemy.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Bebpo on January 26, 2018, 04:31:19 PM
Not sure if this thread doubles as an anger management thread. Tangentially related.

Our office starts a 3 weeks 7-8 figure trial this week and 2 of our 3 attorneys are on that full time. Since I'm the only attorney left, I'm doing my own cases, handling all new inquiries with potential clients and I'm picking up all the cases from the other 2 attorneys since they can't get to anything. 3 attorneys worth of work/deadlines with 1 attorney is  :noooo

I'm running litigation deadlines on 6 cases today while fielding phones/emails since everyone wants priority and to be addresses now since they are all urgent immediate items. I really wish I had a punching bag in my office for times like this to destress. Took a jog at lunch and been trying to mediate breathe in 3 min breaks here and there. Just way too much all at once, I'm handling shit in the most appropriate/efficient order at 200mph and everyone needs to just chill.

Worst part is we're only a few days into this trial, so pretty much expect the next few weeks to be the worst of my career to date!  :-\
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Himu on February 13, 2018, 03:50:37 AM
Had the worst job interview of my life today. It was a group interview. By group, I mean they interviewed four of us at the same time. The woman after me stood up when introducing herself. She was the only one to do so. So I was immediately showed up. I ended up getting anxious because I was comparing myself constantly to the others at the interview. I couldn’t think in my feet and it got to the point where I had trouble breathing during anquestion. I said,”I can’t do this” and walked out of the interview. I haven’t been that embarrassed in a long time. Really bad day.

On a plus side, I’m giving up alcohol for lent. I hope it’ll help because I’m a light alcoholic these days.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: chronovore on February 13, 2018, 07:13:15 AM
Hang in there. You'll get a better situation. Person who stood up was definitely one-upping, so don't let it bother you. She may have even done herself in that way.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: benjipwns on February 14, 2018, 02:06:33 AM
my weight dropped fairly severely a couple months ago because of a bad period where i slept a lot rather than exist when i didn't have to, it doesn't help that four or five pound swings daily have been normal for me as long as i can remember between daily "full" and "fast" points, nor that i've ever had a weight issue to where i could eat huge amounts of shit (not literal tvc) and not really break significantly from this cycle of upper and lower bounds, so i've never had to actually "think" about what i eat and how and definitely never when except for a few periods where i was eating too much of the same thing or drinking too much and needed a slight adjustment once a week to return to the cycle

last time i went to my psychiatrist anxiety over it screwed me up that week and really for that first period, so i was up a little, but he wanted more (no demi)

been doing better about it, mainly with little things like adding some bread or whatever rather than upending the apple cart (and eating all the apples...and the cart), then of course with an appointment coming up this week, i get the flu and can't keep anything down for two days and had to take it easy for another, while getting extra rest, of course i did! :lol

his suggestion has been trying an appetite stimulant but like that's not the problem exactly, it's treating symptoms more i think, like maybe i've just capped out my anti-depressant again and need to change all of that setup, actually i'm glad i wrote this post for no reason other than benji being benji because i hadn't really considered approaching it from that angle, focused on the diet top layer when maybe it's time to rejigger the works, it's been a long time on the current everything including dosages

and the worst part? i haven't even thought to make any jokes about how i'm cultivating mass smh, if that's not evidence of a real problem i don't know what is, though they don't really work great unless i add like 50 pounds or something but still

(https://media0ch-a.akamaihd.net/62/76/2930c846fe58d8cae953249f02e56362.jpg)
https://twitter.com/alwayssunnyqotd/status/493885052271722496
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: benjipwns on February 16, 2018, 03:00:03 AM
so it turns out that he thought i was at a higher dose of my anti-depressant than i was...so um, we're going to try that dosage lol

i also did some of my own research and i guess periactin has weight gain aspects to it, especially if just taken when you go to sleep (which my script is for), whereas the appetite effect is more if you're taking it while awake, also if you want to you can buy like a thousand pills of the stuff for $20 off the internet (4.6/5 stars!) but i think i'll just get the 30 from my regular pharmacist as the doc thinks i'd probably only need to take it until my next appointment or so, my weights going upward but my metabolism has always been such that it'll take months otherwise to get where he wants it, let alone where demi wants it at my routine Bore PM physical

i was reading what people wrote about it on some website where you can review medications which could become a hilarious hobby for me now after what i saw, but most of the complaints were that it makes you sleepy and some said it knocks you out, so between it and the remeron you could probably break into the house through my window probably and rape me and i won't know about it, so please leave a note guys and also you should know the window doesn't latch already you don't need to break it in and get glass all over

the reason i was thinking reading medication reviews could become a hobby is that there's so much wrong and stupidity in them like, well, every other type of review/comments, my favorite one was a lady talking about how her prescription was for taking it twice a day and it was doing fine but then she found out her friend was prescribed it too, BUT FOR THREE TIMES A DAY, so she's been concerned and thinking ever since that she needs to move to at least three times a day and will probably do so starting soon if not right away and that's why she's only scoring it 8/10 instead of 10/10 and she'll have to get more pills for this but it doesn't make sense that she's only taking two when her friend gets three

she should adopt my grandma's method too, her heart medicine says to take three times a day, so she takes all three of them once a day because i dunno, she can't sit around waiting to take pills all day probably, also at 93 you can probably do whatever the fuck you want because you've already defeated that stupid medical science and its probabilities

and yes, of course her doctor said she was showing surprising improvement in her metrics because go to hell medical science you're not in charge here
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Huff on February 16, 2018, 10:56:00 AM
Once you hit a certain age and/or lifestyle I start advocating for reduction in meds and shit anyway. A 90 doesn’t need to have 20 meds and is prob causing more issues than they’re helping
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: TVC15 on February 16, 2018, 01:15:56 PM
Everything sucks.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: TVC15 on February 16, 2018, 03:06:00 PM
Can’t get to sleep or meditate. I kinda zoned out for a few minutes and had this dreamish thing that made me sad. Sometimes I wish I had a family.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: bluemax on February 16, 2018, 11:58:29 PM
I decided to not work through lunch today as my mood has been in pretty heavy decline the past few weeks, and worsening this week.

I can't tell you how much better I felt after just sitting in the sun for 30 minutes and shooting the shit about not work stuff with coworkers.

It's a simple ass thing but I can pretty much always tell now when I need to get *some* sun, just any.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on February 17, 2018, 12:38:03 AM
Changed the title to be more inclusive, essjaydub style.

Been struggling a lot the last couple weeks with anxiety and resisting the urge to blow through the prescribed benzos I have.

I'm giving it a shot but tbh none of the traditional fixes are really working right now. Exercise, sleep, diet, etc. Just really disillusioned with so many personal relationships right now that it's hard to see the bigger picture. I understand the myopia that depression instills, but even though this is an intensely familiar sensation, i'm kinda in the valley right now and it's hard to picture ever not feeling miserable.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: shosta on February 17, 2018, 01:16:11 AM
Any hobbies?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: TVC15 on February 17, 2018, 02:45:24 AM
Any hobbies?

Lying on my busted, back-breaking futon, staring at the ceiling.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on February 17, 2018, 05:37:55 PM
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Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: TVC15 on February 17, 2018, 09:12:25 PM
I’ve barely gotten out of bed the past four days. I feel really defeated.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: toku on February 17, 2018, 09:54:52 PM
Lost my atm card today which was amazing to see how my mood which was shakey at the start of the day cratered thanks to this inconvenience. Been just in the pits last four or five days. It's like you're doing good, or trying to but sometimes the world is like "no fam plz go reflect quietly and remember the face of your father" or some shit. I'm mad at no one but myself.
Title: Re: Depression thread
Post by: Freyj on February 17, 2018, 10:17:12 PM
i also did some of my own research and i guess periactin has weight gain aspects to it, especially if just taken when you go to sleep (which my script is for), whereas the appetite effect is more if you're taking it while awake, also if you want to you can buy like a thousand pills of the stuff for $20 off the internet (4.6/5 stars!) but i think i'll just get the 30 from my regular pharmacist as the doc thinks i'd probably only need to take it until my next appointment or so, my weights going upward but my metabolism has always been such that it'll take months otherwise to get where he wants it, let alone where demi wants it at my routine Bore PM physical

Last time I was on antidepressants I gained like 30lbs in 2 months but I was also eating like shit because it’s an easy vice to self medicate with.

I decided to not work through lunch today as my mood has been in pretty heavy decline the past few weeks, and worsening this week.

I can't tell you how much better I felt after just sitting in the sun for 30 minutes and shooting the shit about not work stuff with coworkers.

It's a simple ass thing but I can pretty much always tell now when I need to get *some* sun, just any.

I’m much more content with where I’m at career wise and mental health wise with this new remote gig, but I definitely miss going to lunch with the dream team from my last long term position. Having coworkers that don’t suck to go to lunch with is the easy mode of adult social activities.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on February 19, 2018, 12:17:51 AM
sometimes the world is like "no fam plz go reflect quietly and remember the face of your father" or some shit.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/pF0M2eb3B3MaY/giphy.gif)

Blessing up 🙏🏻
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 18, 2018, 04:22:00 PM
Depression in full swing again.  Got up at 1 and wanted to go back to bed by 1:30.  Not doing anything I should be doing.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: shosta on April 18, 2018, 04:24:04 PM
Dissertation wearing you down?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 18, 2018, 04:47:36 PM
I'm no where near dissertation lol.  More like road to road to dissertation wearing me down.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: thisismyusername on May 06, 2018, 07:57:28 AM
Put a bullet in me already.

I know that feeling.

Benji: They upped the Wellbutrin between then and now. And outside of Remeron nightmares I'm a mix of "ok," and "fucking awful." I keep having these recurring thoughts that I'm probably better off dead, but that's always been the case for me so I don't think that's the meds or "lol go to the psychologist and tell them" material.

Also with how much I hate my dead-end life, I'm really a lazy ass when it comes to changing that stuff and these meds don't really change that. I don't know if they're supposed to help with motivation, but they really don't in my case. Partially due to factors that are primarily out of my control to where I don't feel like that shit will change if I put the effort in. I dunno. Just feeling like shit right now.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Freyj on June 09, 2018, 08:29:29 PM
I think I really need to get back on Lexapro again. I’d hoped I was done with this but I’m running pretty much a constant low to medium anxiety for reasons I can’t fully explain. Working from home has been great for the most part but I think it’s given me some weird sensitivities to noise and other shit that used to maybe irritate me a little but not, say, fuck my whole weekend up. Neck started hurting last week from the muscles / whatever just being constantly irritated.

Wish I didn’t have weight and sleep problems on lexapro or I’d just commit to it 365.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on June 11, 2018, 02:13:16 PM
My problem currently is my job. The stress is too much for me to handle. Really I just need to take a several month long breather. In general, my anxiety/depression is pretty manageable. But when work blows up, I become a huge mess. My wife was saying I should see a therapist about it, but part of me is like "I know what's wrong. It's my job. I'm pretty happy with everything else in my life." And while my wife things I should see a therapist to get the skills to be able to cope with the stress, part of me just thinks that it's toxic and not something I should get used to "coping" with. It's not like I'm a noob at this, I've been around the block many times and can point out a toxic situation when I see one. Further, there's the issue that I work so much and travel so much, I don't really see how I would deal with trying to squeeze a therapist in.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: shosta on June 11, 2018, 02:52:17 PM
Sorry about the job stress. I get serious anxiety so I know how immiserating it can be. I also don't know what a therapist is going to tell you that you don't already know. Don't you guys have interns or something you can unload more work onto?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on June 11, 2018, 11:51:22 PM
It's getting to that point. If I ddin't have kids I would've been done months ago. I have savings, but don't want to bet that I can find a job before I get into a point where I've expended too much of it.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: chronovore on June 12, 2018, 04:15:06 AM
If what you're doing is unsustainable, you've got to figure out how to protect yourself before anything else. You've previously said your bosses are aware of your stress, I think? Talk with them, because they know you're valuable. A leave of absence or sabbatical may be possible.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on June 13, 2018, 10:41:25 PM
They're in a catch 22. Several projects will fall apart if I'm not part of them. But at the same time if I don't stop I might not be around much longer either. They're caught there with me.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: shosta on June 13, 2018, 10:46:20 PM
Hire more people.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on June 13, 2018, 10:58:05 PM
Hire more people.
That'll help in the future. Not in the now.
Market's really strange right now. It's sorta...stagnant?
I'm used to seeing the market go up and down but this is just weird. It's sorta swampy.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 13, 2018, 11:55:14 PM
I'm fat and it's making me unhappy.  I put on like 15 pounds in the last 6 months.  Also, I might be having a midlife crisis because I have an extreme urge to get a mohawk again. 
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: thisismyusername on June 14, 2018, 11:36:53 AM
This week has sucked. I don't even want to eat or do anything anymore. Going to work is hell because it's basically me forcing myself to breathe for hours a day just to get money and "live."
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on June 18, 2018, 04:32:58 PM
Taking a health day. I'm always shaking. That can't be good. At this point trying to figure out if I can make rent working at Target for the next few months. Again the wife has been amazing in her support. I don't know what I'd do without her.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on September 20, 2018, 12:33:53 PM
So you guys really think I'm crazy? All the opinion changes, life changes? Is it a mental health symptom? Is it a symptom or am I just unfulfilled in search for comfort? I'm trying to gather things to bring to the therapist. I could use outside opinions of me to bring up.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: shosta on September 20, 2018, 12:36:48 PM
I don't think you're crazy, but all the attachment to different roles and identities is unhealthy. It's like you're trying to belong somewhere, get restless, then move on when it doesn't fill the unmet need underlying all of this.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: BlueTsunami on September 20, 2018, 12:39:14 PM
I'm fat and it's making me unhappy.  I put on like 15 pounds in the last 6 months.  Also, I might be having a midlife crisis because I have an extreme urge to get a mohawk again. 

Make your first steps towards being healthier. I've never felt as good as I feel now and I owe it to being active for at least an hour straight each day, consistently.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on September 20, 2018, 12:42:25 PM
So you guys really think I'm crazy? All the opinion changes, life changes? Is it a mental health symptom? Is it a symptom or am I just unfulfilled in search for comfort? I'm trying to gather things to bring to the therapist. I could use outside opinions of me to bring up.

Nah, I think opinion and life changes are natural and should encouraged, if anything.

People ding you because you take some of these beliefs in a tribalistic, us vs. them direction, and get unnecessarily aggressive. If you can get that in check you'll probably get much like flak and enjoy fewer strained friendships.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Atramental on September 20, 2018, 12:45:19 PM
As someone who has evolved from a:
1. conservative fundamentalist protestant christian
2. moderate egonovist christian/deist
3. liberal/progressive secular humanist & atheist
4. democratic socialist secular humanist & atheist
5. nihilist
6. apolitical apatheistic existentialist (where I'm at today)

I kinda get where you're coming from with shifting stances and perspectives.

It's your intensity and level of devotion that's a bit concerning at times, imho.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 20, 2018, 12:54:27 PM
So you guys really think I'm crazy? All the opinion changes, life changes? Is it a mental health symptom? Is it a symptom or am I just unfulfilled in search for comfort? I'm trying to gather things to bring to the therapist. I could use outside opinions of me to bring up.

I'm going to go against the grain and say that extreme opinion changes you have a not normal.  Not because changing opinions and beliefs is a bad thing but because of how much of yourself you put behind those beliefs and how much of personality change these seem to go with.  You also tend to be very combative and aggressive about them - now that is partly what Tasty said is we here, myself included, have egged you on to be more aggressive and its natural to be combative when people are teasing or outright being mean to you, however, I do feel like your mental health is a contributing factor.  And I don't say this to be mean but in the decade you and I have been posting here, you have seemed to become more unstable, especially in the last couple of years. 
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on September 20, 2018, 12:56:53 PM
I think CGP Grey had one of the most well-said, concise explanations for why you should never tie your sense of self to your opinions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlsU_YT9n_g

1:06
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Atramental on September 20, 2018, 01:00:26 PM
Same thing with work. I've had to learn and am still learning that I am not my work/art and I shouldn't tie my sense of self worth to it.

Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on September 20, 2018, 01:48:47 PM
So you guys really think I'm crazy? All the opinion changes, life changes? Is it a mental health symptom? Is it a symptom or am I just unfulfilled in search for comfort? I'm trying to gather things to bring to the therapist. I could use outside opinions of me to bring up.

I'm going to go against the grain and say that extreme opinion changes you have a not normal.  Not because changing opinions and beliefs is a bad thing but because of how much of yourself you put behind those beliefs and how much of personality change these seem to go with.  You also tend to be very combative and aggressive about them - now that is partly what Tasty said is we here, myself included, have egged you on to be more aggressive and its natural to be combative when people are teasing or outright being mean to you, however, I do feel like your mental health is a contributing factor.  And I don't say this to be mean but in the decade you and I have been posting here, you have seemed to become more unstable, especially in the last couple of years.

What should I do?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on September 20, 2018, 02:00:07 PM
So you guys really think I'm crazy? All the opinion changes, life changes? Is it a mental health symptom? Is it a symptom or am I just unfulfilled in search for comfort? I'm trying to gather things to bring to the therapist. I could use outside opinions of me to bring up.

Nah, I think opinion and life changes are natural and should encouraged, if anything.

People ding you because you take some of these beliefs in a tribalistic, us vs. them direction, and get unnecessarily aggressive. If you can get that in check you'll probably get much like flak and enjoy fewer strained friendships.

As someone who has evolved from a:
1. conservative fundamentalist protestant christian
2. moderate egonovist christian/deist
3. liberal/progressive secular humanist & atheist
4. democratic socialist secular humanist & atheist
5. nihilist
6. apolitical apatheistic existentialist (where I'm at today)

I kinda get where you're coming from with shifting stances and perspectives.

It's your intensity and level of devotion that's a bit concerning at times, imho.

I don't think you're crazy, but all the attachment to different roles and identities is unhealthy. It's like you're trying to belong somewhere, get restless, then move on when it doesn't fill the unmet need underlying all of this.

How do I lower the devotion and intensity?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Atramental on September 20, 2018, 02:10:40 PM
There's probably not a straightforward answer for that.

I myself only have brief bursts of intense fiery passion and devotion that'll last for an hour or two and then it's just gone for weeks. Sometimes months.

Most likely due to my brain chemistry/temperament.

I'd suggest meditation, exercise, and journaling but I feel like you already do that on some level already.

Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on September 20, 2018, 02:12:42 PM
I see. I have a predisposition towards extremism so idk what to do about it.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 20, 2018, 02:50:36 PM
There is no one size fits all answer, Cindi. Asking "what should I do" is fine but really the person you need to be asking that to is your therapist.

That said, being someone that's "known" you over forums for over a decade now, I will engage in some armchair diagnosis. This is all just my opinion but everything I'm saying stems from wanting the best for you.

First, I think asking "what do I do" or "how do I fix this" is getting ahead of yourself. First you need to ask "why" to a lot of this. In my amateur opinion, a lot of your issues stem from identity issues and wanting to belong. When I say "identity issues" I am absolutely NOT talking about gender identity, let me just say that for the record I 110% believe that you're a woman. You will get no argument from me on that. I'm talking in a more general "belonging to a group and feeling like you belong." It's hard enough being black in America, but to grow up a black nerd in a religious household, and be a trans woman on top of that has to be incredibly isolating. Humanity is all about tribalism in my opinion, and not feeling like you fit in with any given tribe has to suck and be stressful.

I think that need to belong is what drives you to "try out" so many different tribes, whether it's jiu-jitsu, fighting game community, forums, socialists and other political groups, firearm lunatics, and if I can remember just about every religion under the sun. I think your underlying need for this crazy life to make sense drives you to adopt whatever group you've just joined as a guiding life philosophy. Your lack of "belonging" drives your zealous commitment to whatever group/cause/culture you've just immersed yourself in.

So, there's my armchair diagnosis. Here's my prescription:
1. Don't try to make yourself fit into any particular world. Tell the world to accept you as you are.
2. Don't feel the need to believe in anything. There is no "why." There is no rhyme or reason. There is no God, Yahweh, Buddha, Allah, or Spongebob Squarepants. All there is, is a random chance and collection of atoms. There's no afterlife. Just this life. Make it count.

All just my opinion. Take it for what you will.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Rufus on September 20, 2018, 02:59:22 PM
Good post all in all, but just to not end on a complete nihilistic downer: if you want meaning, you can make your own or find someone else's and hitch your ride to their's. That's fine, even if it's not 'big' or 'important'.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 20, 2018, 02:59:23 PM
So you guys really think I'm crazy? All the opinion changes, life changes? Is it a mental health symptom? Is it a symptom or am I just unfulfilled in search for comfort? I'm trying to gather things to bring to the therapist. I could use outside opinions of me to bring up.

I'm going to go against the grain and say that extreme opinion changes you have a not normal.  Not because changing opinions and beliefs is a bad thing but because of how much of yourself you put behind those beliefs and how much of personality change these seem to go with.  You also tend to be very combative and aggressive about them - now that is partly what Tasty said is we here, myself included, have egged you on to be more aggressive and its natural to be combative when people are teasing or outright being mean to you, however, I do feel like your mental health is a contributing factor.  And I don't say this to be mean but in the decade you and I have been posting here, you have seemed to become more unstable, especially in the last couple of years.

What should I do?

I don't know.  But being open to help is a good first step. 
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on September 20, 2018, 03:03:06 PM
Good post all in all, but just to not end on a complete nihilistic downer: if you want meaning, you can make your own or find someone else's and hitch your ride to their's. That's fine, even if it's not 'big' or 'important'.
When I was 15 my parents moved to a new city. It was just the next town over but I was devastated because I'd lose all my "Friends" that I made through elementary school to High school. But looking back it was one of the most positive things in my life, because it gave me a chance to be no one. And when you're no one, you're free to be who you really are.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Rufus on September 20, 2018, 04:22:47 PM
When I was 15 my parents moved to a new city. It was just the next town over but I was devastated because I'd lose all my "Friends" that I made through elementary school to High school. But looking back it was one of the most positive things in my life, because it gave me a chance to be no one. And when you're no one, you're free to be who you really are.
In my case (5 resets before 20), a mostly internally (i.e. barely) motivated, ascetic loner who's come to actively enjoy the shedding of old relationships (fuck Facebook for this reason alone :yuck).

So, uh, take heed, I guess. :doge
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on September 20, 2018, 06:07:27 PM
There is no one size fits all answer, Cindi. Asking "what should I do" is fine but really the person you need to be asking that to is your therapist.

That said, being someone that's "known" you over forums for over a decade now, I will engage in some armchair diagnosis. This is all just my opinion but everything I'm saying stems from wanting the best for you.

First, I think asking "what do I do" or "how do I fix this" is getting ahead of yourself. First you need to ask "why" to a lot of this. In my amateur opinion, a lot of your issues stem from identity issues and wanting to belong. When I say "identity issues" I am absolutely NOT talking about gender identity, let me just say that for the record I 110% believe that you're a woman. You will get no argument from me on that. I'm talking in a more general "belonging to a group and feeling like you belong." It's hard enough being black in America, but to grow up a black nerd in a religious household, and be a trans woman on top of that has to be incredibly isolating. Humanity is all about tribalism in my opinion, and not feeling like you fit in with any given tribe has to suck and be stressful.

I think that need to belong is what drives you to "try out" so many different tribes, whether it's jiu-jitsu, fighting game community, forums, socialists and other political groups, firearm lunatics, and if I can remember just about every religion under the sun. I think your underlying need for this crazy life to make sense drives you to adopt whatever group you've just joined as a guiding life philosophy. Your lack of "belonging" drives your zealous commitment to whatever group/cause/culture you've just immersed yourself in.

So, there's my armchair diagnosis. Here's my prescription:
1. Don't try to make yourself fit into any particular world. Tell the world to accept you as you are.
2. Don't feel the need to believe in anything. There is no "why." There is no rhyme or reason. There is no God, Yahweh, Buddha, Allah, or Spongebob Squarepants. All there is, is a random chance and collection of atoms. There's no afterlife. Just this life. Make it count.

All just my opinion. Take it for what you will.

You’re right and you’re also wrong. You’re right in that I do search for community as someone who doesn’t feel like they fit in even with their family. But not everything I do is for community or finding a place. For instance, the fighting game community. It just so happened fighting games were and are pretty much game genre I love playing now. And I wanted to get good at them. So I started showing up at local meet ups. Nothing more than that. I didn’t go in wanting a community. I just wanted to play games, git gud, and hang out with people. Same with Jiu jitsu. I started bjj not for a community but because I wanted to get fit without going to the gym because I hated running on a machine like a gerbil. Jiu jitsu offers a better alternative to that.

But you’re right about the rest.

I disagree about the nihilism at the end but I know I can’t change your mind on that.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on September 21, 2018, 01:48:26 AM
Let me rephrase what my friend Snore was saying to be more of a puppy flavor.

I have this analogy that life is full of boxes. And you carry these around. And the secret is to empty as many boxes as possible. But people think moving contents from box to another is a sign of progress. It's not. Let me give you an example. My wife's parents were insanely devout in their religious convictions/belief. They found themselves in a rough patch and found a different variation of belief to go over to. And they went after that whole heartedly and left the old beliefs behind, thinking they were so much better off now. But in my eyes they're still in the same place, they just took all the energy they were putting into one belief and moved it to another. When that one gets old they'll do it again. But there's no difference, they're still carrying that weight.
(http://pics.me.me/youre-gonna-carry-that-weight-1546497.png)

The secret is to let it go. Only by being empty can we be filled with what is truly meaningful.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: ToxicAdam on September 21, 2018, 08:37:21 AM
I disagree.

There are people in this world who are seekers. Their comfort is found not in landing in a certain place or finding 'themselves' and staying static their whole life. Their comfort lays in always finding the next challenge, next interest, next idea and chasing it. Fully engrossing themselves in 'that thing' and then moving onto the next chapter.

It's like being a lifelong student of life. Every semester you get to sign up for new classes and new experiences.
 
There is nothing wrong or mentally ill about that. It's just a different way to go through life. This idea that you need to "find yourself" by your 40's and then just sit in that paradigm until you die isn't for everyone. We aren't all wired with the same reward systems.


Lean into your quirks. It's one of the few ways you can be special.

Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on September 21, 2018, 10:14:29 AM
Or maybe it's just that each person is different and therefore requires different solutions to their problems but people can only tell you what works for them because they only have visibility to themselves.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: benjipwns on September 21, 2018, 10:19:47 AM
Or maybe it's just that each person is different and therefore requires different solutions to their problems but people can only tell you what works for them because they only have visibility to themselves.
this sounds sketchy tbh
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Atramental on September 21, 2018, 10:27:14 AM
Or maybe it's just that each person is different and therefore requires different solutions to their problems but people can only tell you what works for them because they only have visibility to themselves.
Exactly.

None of us are really equipped to give super accurate advice on how to manage a “mental space” of someone we’re not. All we can really say is “This worked for me. Try it out but... you should really see a therapist first.”

Hence why I stopped giving advice and attention to Rahx in the dating thread because it’s painfully obvious that we are not on the same mental wavelength. Even though I myself have had gone through my own periods of depression, anxiety, inceldom, bitterness, etc. I figured out my own way around all that shit through trial & error, persistence, and changing bad habits into good habits (both mental & physical).
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 21, 2018, 12:29:05 PM
I disagree.

There are people in this world who are seekers. Their comfort is found not in landing in a certain place or finding 'themselves' and staying static their whole life. Their comfort lays in always finding the next challenge, next interest, next idea and chasing it. Fully engrossing themselves in 'that thing' and then moving onto the next chapter.

It's like being a lifelong student of life. Every semester you get to sign up for new classes and new experiences.
 
There is nothing wrong or mentally ill about that. It's just a different way to go through life. This idea that you need to "find yourself" by your 40's and then just sit in that paradigm until you die isn't for everyone. We aren't all wired with the same reward systems.


Lean into your quirks. It's one of the few ways you can be special.

That may be true for some people but by her own admission Cindi is not in a healthy, comfortable place.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 21, 2018, 12:30:28 PM
Ya, that's the thing.  Its fine if it leads to a positive life, otherwise its not. 
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on September 21, 2018, 12:59:35 PM
I disagree.

There are people in this world who are seekers. Their comfort is found not in landing in a certain place or finding 'themselves' and staying static their whole life. Their comfort lays in always finding the next challenge, next interest, next idea and chasing it. Fully engrossing themselves in 'that thing' and then moving onto the next chapter.

It's like being a lifelong student of life. Every semester you get to sign up for new classes and new experiences.
 
There is nothing wrong or mentally ill about that. It's just a different way to go through life. This idea that you need to "find yourself" by your 40's and then just sit in that paradigm until you die isn't for everyone. We aren't all wired with the same reward systems.


Lean into your quirks. It's one of the few ways you can be special.

That may be true for some people but by her own admission Cindi is not in a healthy, comfortable place.

I mostly blame Catholicism, the political landscape, and the fact people call me mentally ill on that though. I agree with Toxic about seeking. My main concern is how extreme I get with it.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: ToxicAdam on September 21, 2018, 01:16:23 PM

That may be true for some people but by her own admission Cindi is not in a healthy, comfortable place.

I guess there's where the rub lies. Is she not healthy, comfortable because she is exhausted from the never-ending internal battles? Or is she not healthy, comfortable because all the feedback (through society and peers) that are telling her that she should not be happy.

That's the trap most depressives fall into. Too reliant on validation through others, whether it be implied or spelled out. Once you get on that hamster wheel, it never ends and you always feel empty.

I think that's the overall journey in a nutshell. Can you get to a place where the validation you crave comes mostly from yourself? That doesn't mean becoming an island, but it means having healthy boundaries.

Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Steve Contra on September 21, 2018, 04:22:07 PM
So you guys really think I'm crazy? All the opinion changes, life changes? Is it a mental health symptom? Is it a symptom or am I just unfulfilled in search for comfort? I'm trying to gather things to bring to the therapist. I could use outside opinions of me to bring up.
Take it from someone who has done lots and lots and lots of mental health work and seen someone close to me do some of the hardest work imaginable, there isn't much external that's going to fix what's going on in your head. There isn't a belief system or activities that are going to take over the role of challenging, personal work. I went years and years looking for that "thing" that was going to suddenly make it all go away, and things would work for a while and then it would come back and each time it would worse until shit got really bad and I was able to find a therapist who was able to work with me on fixing myself and opening up and looking at what inside me was fucking me up. And it was hard and very painful and shit got worse for a while (this is the part people don't like, that therapy as opposed to quick fixes can fuck you up really bad before it gets better) but eventually I was able to change lots, accept shit that wasn't going to change, and be at peace with that. And it come back from time to time and I have to remind that I have it in me to return and do the work again instead of flying off the handle or spiraling into dark depression. Feel free to message any time about any of this, I have loads of experience and can lend an ear.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Mandark on September 21, 2018, 05:12:09 PM
And it was hard and very painful and shit got worse for a while (this is the part people don't like, that therapy as opposed to quick fixes can fuck you up really bad before it gets better)

U-shaped progress is real and a huuuuuuuuuuge bitch.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 21, 2018, 05:22:34 PM
Another thing some people don't understand about therapy: it's not going to "fix" you. It's going to hopefully give you the tools to be the best broken version of yourself you can be, and make healthier choices going forward.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: chronovore on September 21, 2018, 07:27:12 PM
I disagree.

There are people in this world who are seekers. Their comfort is found not in landing in a certain place or finding 'themselves' and staying static their whole life. Their comfort lays in always finding the next challenge, next interest, next idea and chasing it. Fully engrossing themselves in 'that thing' and then moving onto the next chapter.

It's like being a lifelong student of life. Every semester you get to sign up for new classes and new experiences.
 
There is nothing wrong or mentally ill about that. It's just a different way to go through life. This idea that you need to "find yourself" by your 40's and then just sit in that paradigm until you die isn't for everyone. We aren't all wired with the same reward systems.


Lean into your quirks. It's one of the few ways you can be special.

Yeah, but the people who find solace on that path are usually accepting that they are exploring, that there are many perspectives out there in the world. They aren't the full-on, This Is The One Truth (and Your Truth Is Wrong), insta-expert, belligerent zealot that Cindi manages to manifest each time she switches horses.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: TVC15 on September 21, 2018, 09:11:56 PM
So you guys really think I'm crazy? All the opinion changes, life changes? Is it a mental health symptom? Is it a symptom or am I just unfulfilled in search for comfort? I'm trying to gather things to bring to the therapist. I could use outside opinions of me to bring up.

I'm going to go against the grain and say that extreme opinion changes you have a not normal.  Not because changing opinions and beliefs is a bad thing but because of how much of yourself you put behind those beliefs and how much of personality change these seem to go with.  You also tend to be very combative and aggressive about them - now that is partly what Tasty said is we here, myself included, have egged you on to be more aggressive and its natural to be combative when people are teasing or outright being mean to you, however, I do feel like your mental health is a contributing factor.  And I don't say this to be mean but in the decade you and I have been posting here, you have seemed to become more unstable, especially in the last couple of years.

What should I do?

Come with me. We’ll eat human flesh and quiver in joy as we watch the best and worst and most mediocre of erotic thrillers repeatedly while vaping The Shit. 
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on September 21, 2018, 10:35:40 PM
I disagree.

There are people in this world who are seekers. Their comfort is found not in landing in a certain place or finding 'themselves' and staying static their whole life. Their comfort lays in always finding the next challenge, next interest, next idea and chasing it. Fully engrossing themselves in 'that thing' and then moving onto the next chapter.

It's like being a lifelong student of life. Every semester you get to sign up for new classes and new experiences.
 
There is nothing wrong or mentally ill about that. It's just a different way to go through life. This idea that you need to "find yourself" by your 40's and then just sit in that paradigm until you die isn't for everyone. We aren't all wired with the same reward systems.


Lean into your quirks. It's one of the few ways you can be special.

Yeah, but the people who find solace on that path are usually accepting that they are exploring, that there are many perspectives out there in the world. They aren't the full-on, This Is The One Truth (and Your Truth Is Wrong), insta-expert, belligerent zealot that Cindi manages to manifest each time she switches horses.

I do that because I have a low self esteem. I want to feel important and valued so I puff my chest like that.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Transhuman on September 21, 2018, 10:35:57 PM
Depression? Isn't that just a fancy word for feeling "bummed out"?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: BlueTsunami on September 22, 2018, 12:35:34 AM
Fucking broke down watching a TED talks animation vid on the Myth of Orpheus and Eurydice. Like, straight up sobbing, cover my shame from the world.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on September 22, 2018, 12:55:46 AM
that wasn't depression, ted talks is just garbage
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on September 22, 2018, 07:58:48 AM
Went to cousins wedding and felt like a ghost. I think I’m done with family events - they give me nothing but anxiety. I had never met my cousins bride before and he didn’t introduce me. When I tried to introduce myself she just said hi. I know they’re busy and everything and I came to see my cousin tie the knot, but like, I took two days off for this. I am not allowed vacation time at my job until I’ve worked there a year. So I worked 8 days in a row to be able to go to his wedding since my regular days off are Tues/Wed and they don’t offer sick leave. Since I took Friday and Saturday off, they won’t grant me my usual Tues/Wed so I’ll have to work 9 days in a row again, some of which with 10-12 hour days. I sacrificed a lot to be there for him and he can’t introduce me to his bride? At one point after dinner I had to get out. Immediately. If I had a cig I would have smoked it. Every family event I end up being surrounded by family and yet feel so utterly alone and invisible. I could tell I was not expected much less wanted. So I think I’m done. Going to a homeless shelter again for thanksgiving and Christmas.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: chronovore on September 22, 2018, 09:52:56 PM
I disagree.

There are people in this world who are seekers. Their comfort is found not in landing in a certain place or finding 'themselves' and staying static their whole life. Their comfort lays in always finding the next challenge, next interest, next idea and chasing it. Fully engrossing themselves in 'that thing' and then moving onto the next chapter.

It's like being a lifelong student of life. Every semester you get to sign up for new classes and new experiences.
 
There is nothing wrong or mentally ill about that. It's just a different way to go through life. This idea that you need to "find yourself" by your 40's and then just sit in that paradigm until you die isn't for everyone. We aren't all wired with the same reward systems.


Lean into your quirks. It's one of the few ways you can be special.

Yeah, but the people who find solace on that path are usually accepting that they are exploring, that there are many perspectives out there in the world. They aren't the full-on, This Is The One Truth (and Your Truth Is Wrong), insta-expert, belligerent zealot that Cindi manages to manifest each time she switches horses.

I do that because I have a low self esteem. I want to feel important and valued so I puff my chest like that.

OK, but you recognize that it's just alienating people who could otherwise support you, right? It's a form of self-sabotage.

I have low self-esteem too. You can figure out a better way to manage it while you learn to address the problem. It must be stunningly hard to deal with when your support system is so broken.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on September 22, 2018, 10:11:51 PM
You're not wrong.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: benjipwns on September 23, 2018, 05:59:31 AM
Went to cousins wedding and felt like a ghost. I think I’m done with family events - they give me nothing but anxiety. I had never met my cousins bride before and he didn’t introduce me. When I tried to introduce myself she just said hi. ... At one point after dinner I had to get out. Immediately. If I had a cig I would have smoked it. Every family event I end up being surrounded by family and yet feel so utterly alone and invisible. I could tell I was not expected much less wanted.
Is this not how non-immediate family (or equivalent) weddings are supposed to go for people not in the wedding party*?

Coincidentally, I went to a cousin's wedding recently and much of your description is basically how the groom's dad was treated after he did his small part in the ceremony. He had his cigarettes though.

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*It seems like every wedding I've been to in the last decade seems like it's designed as punishment for the guests. And the bride and groom. (But not the bridesmaids. Assi is right!!!!)
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Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on September 23, 2018, 07:21:38 AM
Went to cousins wedding and felt like a ghost. I think I’m done with family events - they give me nothing but anxiety. I had never met my cousins bride before and he didn’t introduce me. When I tried to introduce myself she just said hi. ... At one point after dinner I had to get out. Immediately. If I had a cig I would have smoked it. Every family event I end up being surrounded by family and yet feel so utterly alone and invisible. I could tell I was not expected much less wanted.
Is this not how non-immediate family (or equivalent) weddings are supposed to go for people not in the wedding party*?

Coincidentally, I went to a cousin's wedding recently and much of your description is basically how the groom's dad was treated after he did his small part in the ceremony. He had his cigarettes though.

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*It seems like every wedding I've been to in the last decade seems like it's designed as punishment for the guests. And the bride and groom. (But not the bridesmaids. Assi is right!!!!)
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Here’s the family dynamic.

We are first cousins. Grandma and grandpa had three kids. Of those children, I am the oldest grandchild. Then we have a boy born of the middle child. A boy and then later a girl born of the youngest. The one married was the third grand child born.

Second grandchild was made a groom man. His sister was with the ladies. Essentially all three grandchildren were involved in the wedding except me. I was not approached or considered. That said, they had rehearsal on Thursday night and I couldn’t be there because work. So maybe I’m being emotional about that point.

But on the other, our extended family is fairly close. We used to go to gather for not only Christmas and Thanksgiving, but also Mother’s Day, father’s day, Easter, and occasionally July 4. On New Year’s Eve us four cousins would almost always go to grandmas house growing up when we were kids and have a sleepover party. Suffice to say, that dynamic has changed as we have gotten older and went our own ways, but I would expect that when your older cousin flew from out of state, took work off, and sacrificed to see your wedding, that you could at least introduce me to your bride.

And personally, I tend to feel like that at family events now. I often have to find my own corner and stay out of sight.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Assimilate on September 23, 2018, 08:24:56 AM
I'm fat and it's making me unhappy.  I put on like 15 pounds in the last 6 months.  Also, I might be having a midlife crisis because I have an extreme urge to get a mohawk again.
Hit the gym hard, get swole, and rock that fucking mohawk.  Easy peasy.

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Never realized how many of you were on meds.

The dichotomy between here and there is fascinating to me. On one end everyone in the states seems so on edge, always on meds, constantly depressed. Meanwhile, here you can go from a beautiful sunny day at the beach to driving by and hearing gun fire.

I think it has something to do with the visual perception of happiness. In the states the economy is well, you can work if you want to, you can buy a bunch of shit, but no one is happy because there is always someone next to you 'better'. Someone with a nicer car, nicer house, better career, or it all seems that way. And so it's this endless pursuit of happiness that i think is driving fuckers crazy.

Here, it's not like that. Everyone recognises most of the population is in the shitter, and so what else are you going to do but enjoy yourself?

Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: TVC15 on September 23, 2018, 10:40:53 PM
I hate myself and I wish I was dead. I wish I could die tonight. There’s so little that’s worthwhile.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: naff on September 23, 2018, 10:58:45 PM
that wasn't depression, ted talks is just garbage

counter: they can be good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EUAMe2ixCI
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on September 23, 2018, 11:25:49 PM
I hate myself and I wish I was dead. I wish I could die tonight. There’s so little that’s worthwhile.
bowsette is all we need, bb  :-*
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on September 26, 2018, 12:13:21 AM
Of the current culture wars Christians mostly posit that society has lost its way in a den of hedonism. And they may have a point, but that doesn’t mean that Christianity necessarily has the tools to fix the problems they purport. Christianity has historically been used as a tool against progress. Christians used it to prove black people should remain slaves and that the institution of slavery is biblical.

And I quote an Episcopal priest of his era:

Quote
[God's approval or disapproval of slavery] can only be settled by the Bible... From his Word there can be no appeal... If it were a matter to be determined by my personal sympathies, tastes, or feelings, I should be as ready as any man to condemn the institution of slavery; for all my prejudices of education, habit, and social position stand entirely opposed to it.
But as a Christian... I am compelled to submit my weak and erring intellect to the authority of the Almighty.

He then proceeds to provide a thorough proof of why the Bible allows slavery. They used their  Christian faith in the future to fight interracial marriage and integration of races after decades of segregation using so-called Christian values.

At the same time many Christians used Christianity to argue that slavery has no biblical basis. The story of the Hebrews and Egypt is a massive boon for my people (black Americans), and many progressive abolitionists used faith as the defining argument for black Americans personhood and right to freedom. And yet still, religion played a central role in the civil rights movement as well as Rabbis and Buddhist monks marched along side movements started by Christians and Muslims.

So the overlying argument is whether religion truly acts as a force of morality. It could be argued that historically it solely works to the advantage of the status quo. But it’s equally true that it has worked to aid the oppressed. Both are true, and the answer isn’t black or white.

So it comes down to a personal value question: do you need religion to lead a virtuous life? And I’m going to say that no, you don’t. But now the question is do **I** need religion to lead a virtuous life. And that’s the current dilemma given all arguments provided.

Another 19th century religious figure:

(https://i.redd.it/fgty3jm654o11.png)

Essentially, I’m looking at religion as a whole right now and applying the scripture of “you shall know them by their fruit” fully to see if I want to continue staying on this despite believing in God. What are the works of religion exactly? What indeed?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Assimilate on September 26, 2018, 12:17:38 AM
Isn't there an argument to be made that Christianity is actually responsible from bringing the individual out of bondage? Considering human slavery under Christianity was shorter than any other time period.

Slave to a state or ruler was a thing for thousands of thousands of years was it not?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on September 26, 2018, 12:19:21 AM
Isn't there an argument to be made that Christianity is actually responsible from bringing the individual out of bondage? Considering human slavery under Christianity was shorter than any other time period.

Slave to a state or ruler was a thing for thousands of thousands of years was it not?

And yet that slavery was also considered the most brutal.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Assimilate on September 26, 2018, 12:20:56 AM

And yet that slavery was also considered the most brutal.
I'm not sure how you'd measure that?

I mean, Egyptians died by the thousands building pointy buildings for dudes in pointy hats for centuries.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on September 26, 2018, 12:27:07 AM

And yet that slavery was also considered the most brutal.
I'm not sure how you'd measure that?

I mean, Egyptians died by the thousands building pointy buildings for dudes in pointy hats for centuries.

https://www.usnews.com/science/articles/2010/01/12/egypt-new-find-shows-slaves-didnt-build-pyramids

Nah.

Losing your religion, culture, language, identity, having your children ripped from your arms, families separated, rape, abuse, science experiments, forced enslavement over generations, harsh work conditions, being treated as currency, and general dehumanization are reasons pretty much all historians are on the side of the Atlantic slave trade is considered the most brutal in history.

I am using my words deliberately here. I have not said American either. I’m talking about the whole shebang. American black slaves had it awful, but slavery in the Caribbean and South America was practically genocide.

In other forms of slavery there was a relationship between master and slave. The slavery we are talking about didn’t consider the slaves even human. The slavery discussed in the Bible isn’t remotely the same kind.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Assimilate on September 26, 2018, 12:40:46 AM
What I find interesting is that the way slavery is taught sometimes warps things a bit.

You're made to think that some europeans had a lightbulb moment and thought "hey let's go to Africa and take those people" when in fact seeking out cheap labor was a major endeavor everywhere and when they got to Africa and saw an established wide open market that had been well established for centuries they rolled into it hard and started exporting as much as they could. Like they would with any resource.

I'm sure in their minds it was "Christopher, we need to round up as much of this labor force as we can before Miguel Antonio gets here from goddamn Portugal" and so it went. Not a moment of reflection that this could have been wrong and immoral.

At least until sections of the Bible gives some of these people power of individuality, and the rights of the 'creator.'

Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: shosta on September 26, 2018, 12:46:34 AM
this seems like the wrong thread for this discussion
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on September 26, 2018, 09:32:07 AM
Only if you’re a dip shit.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Kara on September 26, 2018, 11:05:47 AM
The Taino had no system of slavery and yet Europeans came and enslaved them. People actually found this wrong and immoral at the time.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Brehvolution on September 26, 2018, 01:58:18 PM
If there is a hell, it's full of racist "christians".
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: ToxicAdam on September 26, 2018, 02:01:12 PM
I've been enslaved by my cock and balls my whole life. The cruelest master of them all.

Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Assimilate on September 26, 2018, 02:07:34 PM
I've been enslaved by my cock and balls my whole life. The cruelest master of them all.
so true
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 26, 2018, 03:15:12 PM
You've been enslaved by Toxic's cock and balls all your life too? 
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 26, 2018, 03:15:24 PM
so true
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 26, 2018, 03:20:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOZuxwVk7TU
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on September 26, 2018, 03:51:50 PM
I've been enslaved by my cock and balls my whole life. The cruelest master of them all.



Nothing's stopping you from chemical castration. :bolo
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on September 26, 2018, 03:53:43 PM
Also I've been thinking this week legitimately for the first time about seeing a therapist myself. I have nothing against them and frequently recommend them to those going through hardships, but that hasn't historically described my situation. However, my emotional status has been a rollercoaster for much of this year for no external reason. I get severely unhappy sometimes, but I'm not sure way.

Alcohol exacerbates that, which is partly why my intake over the course of 2018 probably looks something like this:

(https://i.imgur.com/i9qcLg2l.png)

And I am pretty happy about that, even if I'm consuming just as much of another drug (weed) to make up for it.

I asked work about our mental health benefits and policies and was told the only way to find out was to call a phone number. Which means I'm gonna procrastinate that shit til the end of time. ::)
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on September 26, 2018, 04:31:06 PM
A lot of health insurances cover therapy so I just say look into local counseling places and see if they take your insurance. Also many therapy clinics have a sliding scale so you just pay depending on how much you make. You have a good job and make money so I wouldn't worry.

Also possibly look into whether the clinic is lgbt friendly. I have gone to lgbt counseling services and it's much more welcoming place because you don't feel like you have to worry how they'll react. See if that's a possibility.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 27, 2018, 07:14:15 PM
I've been enslaved by my cock and balls my whole life. The cruelest master of them all.



Nothing's stopping you from chemical castration. :bolo
Having looked into those things as a way to be happy with no pressures. Doesn’t sound like they would help with that.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: shosta on October 03, 2018, 04:24:22 PM
I just realized something is wrong with me. I devote an excessive amount of energy to my job which is much more than required for low paid prole work. I put in unpaid hours so I can "get things done" despite people telling me that I could be fired . The truth is that I'm not even really productive when I'm off the clock, either. Sometimes I walk into work to hang out. In other words, I think I'm trying to find meaning in my unskilled labor, but because that's impossible, the process is just leaving me drained and wayward.

Last night while I was at home my failson coworker had a kind of existential crisis and started texting me with complaints about some of his tasks which he didn't think he could get done. My other coworker didn't get these same tasks done last night either, and so I went there in the middle of the night to help close because there was no way I was going to let it go unfinished two nights in a row right before my manager came back from vacation. And then after that I showed the  the texts to another manager to vent. Well, she said she was going to bring this up to general management because this guy sucks and has issues getting his work done. But now it's like, why was I there working off the clock? Why is this my problem? Today is my day off and I can't even enjoy it because I'm wondering if they're going to discipline me.

if all this sounds inconsequential and minute, that's because it is. I am squeezing myself over the day to day minutiae of a grocery store and all it's going to leave me with is a termination on my employment history.

Get a hobby? I have a hobbies. Get friends? I have some friends outside of work. But my lack of gainful employment is always going to be an issue for me.

paging Puppy
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: shosta on October 03, 2018, 04:31:23 PM
I just realized something is wrong with me. I devote an excessive amount of energy to my job which is much more than required for low paid prole work. I put in unpaid hours so I can "get things done" despite people telling me that I could be fired . The truth is that I'm not even really productive when I'm off the clock, either. Sometimes I walk into work to hang out. In other words, I think I'm trying to find meaning in my unskilled labor, but because that's impossible, the process is just leaving me drained and wayward.

Last night while I was at home my failson coworker had a kind of existential crisis and started texting me with complaints about some of his tasks which he didn't think he could get done. My other coworker didn't get these same tasks done last night either, and so I went there in the middle of the night to help close because there was no way I was going to let it go unfinished two nights in a row right before my manager came back from vacation. And then after that I showed the  the texts to another manager to vent. Well, she said she was going to bring this up to general management because this guy sucks and has issues getting his work done. But now it's like, why was I there working off the clock? Why is this my problem? Today is my day off and I can't even enjoy it because I'm wondering if they're going to discipline me.

if all this sounds inconsequential and minute, that's because it is. I am squeezing myself over the day to day minutiae of a grocery store and all it's going to leave me with is a termination on my employment history.

Get a hobby? I have a hobbies. Get friends? I have some friends outside of work. But my lack of gainful employment is always going to be an issue for me.

paging Puppy
You sound pathetic. Go back to college
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on October 03, 2018, 06:11:18 PM
I just realized something is wrong with me. I devote an excessive amount of energy to my job which is much more than required for low paid prole work. I put in unpaid hours so I can "get things done" despite people telling me that I could be fired . The truth is that I'm not even really productive when I'm off the clock, either. Sometimes I walk into work to hang out. In other words, I think I'm trying to find meaning in my unskilled labor, but because that's impossible, the process is just leaving me drained and wayward.

Last night while I was at home my failson coworker had a kind of existential crisis and started texting me with complaints about some of his tasks which he didn't think he could get done. My other coworker didn't get these same tasks done last night either, and so I went there in the middle of the night to help close because there was no way I was going to let it go unfinished two nights in a row right before my manager came back from vacation. And then after that I showed the  the texts to another manager to vent. Well, she said she was going to bring this up to general management because this guy sucks and has issues getting his work done. But now it's like, why was I there working off the clock? Why is this my problem? Today is my day off and I can't even enjoy it because I'm wondering if they're going to discipline me.

if all this sounds inconsequential and minute, that's because it is. I am squeezing myself over the day to day minutiae of a grocery store and all it's going to leave me with is a termination on my employment history.

Get a hobby? I have a hobbies. Get friends? I have some friends outside of work. But my lack of gainful employment is always going to be an issue for me.

paging Puppy
Your goals are in the wrong place. What even are your goals?
Also, come on Shos, I know you're like 9 but log into your alts correctly please.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Assimilate on October 03, 2018, 06:23:14 PM
Bone crushing late night anxiety.

I'm in a horrible fork in the road. On one hand I'm supposed to be studying for something that Is now taking what seems like a lifetime to open, with no sure bet it opens this year (maybe economy here improves, people retire, I can pass the certification and I'm in)

on the other hand the U.S economy is well, why not go back? Apply for something new but then what if everything opens here? How will I be prepared? I haven't studied in months, I forgot half the shit, its' hard, really hard, some people prepare for years.

I have no idea what to do I just keep getting older.

This is so awful and I only feel it at night.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: shosta on October 03, 2018, 06:26:52 PM
Your goals are in the wrong place. What even are your goals?
Also, come on Shos, I know you're like 9 but log into your alts correctly please.
You know, current plan was to get promoted and then transfer back to California where I'd make more money and can focus on my actual, real career goals. I started this year with no income, no vehicle, and pretty much no hope, and was just trying to survive. And I'm still just trying to survive, but I thought if I just work a little harder, kill myself a little more, show the right people that I'm worth the risk, I'd have a decent working class income so I could step back and fucking breathe and fix my shit. But now I can feel myself stepping back down Maslow's hierarchy over here and the suffocation's coming back.

Mind you, this isn't about the universal financial struggle everyone experiences. I can handle that, I've developed the tools for that. It's just, you know, working here, I feel like I'm watering a rock and expecting a tree to grow. That's the best way to put it. So as I type it all out I guess the answer is pretty clear: get a different job. Feel useful to someone somehow.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Assimilate on October 03, 2018, 06:27:38 PM
Your goals are in the wrong place. What even are your goals?
Also, come on Shos, I know you're like 9 but log into your alts correctly please.
You know, current plan was to get promoted and then transfer back to California where I'd make more money and can focus on my actual, real career goals. I started this year with no income, no vehicle, and pretty much no hope,
Jesus... do you have parents?

Any type of safety net outside of the government?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: shosta on October 03, 2018, 06:34:08 PM
Bone crushing late night anxiety.

I'm in a horrible fork in the road. On one hand I'm supposed to be studying for something that Is now taking what seems like a lifetime to open, with no sure bet it opens this year (maybe economy here improves, people retire, I can pass the certification and I'm in)

on the other hand the U.S economy is well, why not go back? Apply for something new but then what if everything opens here? How will I be prepared? I haven't studied in months, I forgot half the shit, its' hard, really hard, some people prepare for years.

I have no idea what to do I just keep getting older.

This is so awful and I only feel it at night.
You only feel it at night because that's when you finally have a moment to yourself to not be distracted by the daily struggle and really think about your own life. Not one thing you have ever said makes it seem like you enjoy living in ****** at all. What career path are we talking about, anyway? Because that probably makes a huge difference. There's a good chance that if you stick with what you're doing you'll make it in, eventually, and find a way to be happy about where you are, versus moving back to the US and starting over in some city where you have no friends at all.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: shosta on October 03, 2018, 06:36:02 PM
Jesus... do you have parents?

Any type of safety net outside of the government?
I moved back in with my parents last year and have been sticking around because my dad went crazy. If I thought my mom was safe living with him I'd move in with my aunt in the bay area so I could be where I belong instead of this god forsaken shit hole of a desert.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Assimilate on October 03, 2018, 06:41:27 PM

You only feel it at night because that's when you finally have a moment to yourself to not be distracted by the daily struggle and really think about your own life. Not one thing you have ever said makes it seem like you enjoy living in ****** at all. What career path are we talking about, anyway? Because that probably makes a huge difference. There's a good chance that if you stick with what you're doing you'll make it in, eventually, and find a way to be happy about where you are, versus moving back to the US and starting over in some city where you have no friends at all.
Enjoy living in what?

Not having friends does not bother me. I make friends pretty easily, well, at least temporary girlfriends. I enjoy people not knowing who I am. It's really nice actually. I grew up with a lot of friends in a town where everyone knew everyone. It's nice being able to be whomever I want on a daily basis. So it's the opposite, I fear going back and seeing people I know.

Jesus... do you have parents?

Any type of safety net outside of the government?
I moved back in with my parents last year and have been sticking around because my dad went crazy. If I thought my mom was safe living with him I'd move in with my aunt in the bay area so I could be where I belong instead of this god forsaken shit hole of a desert.
Bay Area is fucking nice man. I'd do that in a heart beat.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on October 03, 2018, 07:18:12 PM
Your goals are in the wrong place. What even are your goals?
Also, come on Shos, I know you're like 9 but log into your alts correctly please.
You know, current plan was to get promoted and then transfer back to California where I'd make more money and can focus on my actual, real career goals. I started this year with no income, no vehicle, and pretty much no hope, and was just trying to survive. And I'm still just trying to survive, but I thought if I just work a little harder, kill myself a little more, show the right people that I'm worth the risk, I'd have a decent working class income so I could step back and fucking breathe and fix my shit. But now I can feel myself stepping back down Maslow's hierarchy over here and the suffocation's coming back.

Mind you, this isn't about the universal financial struggle everyone experiences. I can handle that, I've developed the tools for that. It's just, you know, working here, I feel like I'm watering a rock and expecting a tree to grow. That's the best way to put it. So as I type it all out I guess the answer is pretty clear: get a different job. Feel useful to someone somehow.
Glad I could help.
 :success
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: eleuin on October 12, 2018, 01:19:11 AM
Well boys and girls I picked up my 1st prescription of lexapro, very low dosage so not expecting much side effects

The past few weeks have been the most lethargic I've ever felt, this cannot continue
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 15, 2018, 01:09:24 PM
I've been having a depression/anxiety episode for 2 weeks now.  I have hardly left home and gotten no work done.  Also ate a shit ton of bad food and drank a lot which doesn't help. 
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: shosta on October 15, 2018, 01:11:04 PM
Everytime you post about an issue you're having I feel like it all just stems from being grinded into a pulp by your thesis process. You have to find a stable equilibrium for this shit or it'll kill you. Do you have a lot of grad school friends that you can vent to? And how is your thesis coming along anyway?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 15, 2018, 01:18:14 PM
Not really, I've been like this for a long time, like since high school.  Thesis pressure doesn't help but it's not the root cause.  Like right now I'm pretty excited to be working on all my projects, and I have a lot of ideas, so I'm actually in a good place for grad school right now. 
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: shosta on October 15, 2018, 01:21:03 PM
Me trying to diagnose problems:
(https://content.presentermedia.com/files/animsp/00009000/9345/bullseye_target_miss_anim_md_wm.gif)
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Assimilate on October 15, 2018, 04:31:12 PM
does medicine for insane procrastination exist outside of stimulants like adderal?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on October 15, 2018, 04:35:56 PM
Yes. I'll tell you later.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Kara on October 15, 2018, 04:40:15 PM
Me trying to diagnose problems:
(https://content.presentermedia.com/files/animsp/00009000/9345/bullseye_target_miss_anim_md_wm.gif)

I don't think it's a personal problem per se but I feel you analyzed me well enough at Bore-Con. 8)
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Kara on October 15, 2018, 05:35:51 PM
If only. :'(
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on October 15, 2018, 05:54:50 PM
Dandy, could it be related to the change in seasons? The sun going down at 6-7 pm can be a downer in early fall.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: shosta on October 15, 2018, 09:24:37 PM
I don't think it's a personal problem per se but I feel you analyzed me well enough at Bore-Con. 8)
wait what did I even say

or is this a joke about how it's impolite to analyze people over dinner

also it just occurred to me that I still owe you $50
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on October 19, 2018, 02:51:35 AM
Drank a six pack tonight  :-\
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on November 09, 2018, 11:07:35 PM
Yeeeeaaaaahhhh it's probably time for a therapist. That ever burning light keeping my smile going since childhood is running out for like the first time ever. Pretty scary.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: thisismyusername on November 09, 2018, 11:12:08 PM
Only the dead know peace from that evil. Congrats, you're now an adult.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on November 09, 2018, 11:20:00 PM
Only the dead know peace from that evil. Congrats, you're now an adult.

Just the shot in the arm I needed. Classic TIMU.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on November 09, 2018, 11:20:42 PM
thisismyusername: Driving people to suicide since 1963™ 8)
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Trent Dole on November 10, 2018, 01:58:00 AM
Yeaaah I've been in and out of therapy most of my adult life and probably need to go back since my wife said she's divorcing me a smidge over a month ago now, but it feels like it'd be kind of futile cause like I said, been doing it practically my entire adult life here and there. :gloomy
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on November 15, 2018, 12:32:39 AM
Hey what's the SOP when your drive for living completely collapses

Asking for a friend
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: benjipwns on November 15, 2018, 12:33:36 AM
backlog marathon
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on November 15, 2018, 12:40:54 AM
backlog marathon

This close t pokemon? no way
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 15, 2018, 12:44:10 AM
I listen to comedy bang bang or watch critical roll.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 15, 2018, 12:45:20 AM
and jerk it.  lots.  didn't know dicks can get calluses.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: shosta on November 15, 2018, 12:57:31 AM
Arvie's: he beats his meat.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: naff on November 15, 2018, 02:01:29 AM
Hey what's the SOP when your drive for living completely collapses

Asking for a friend

I know I have been a little rude before and you don't really care for my shit. I've been a very lazy low key contributor here for a long time with a tendency to be a bit derisive, sorry for the neg vibes... I've seen you come a long way in life and think you're great. Hang in there bud. You're doing really well, despite feeling like shit rn.

I have no advice really. Personally, I have done a little therapy but usually avoid cause $ and try smooth bad vibes over by basking in friends and colleagues good graces, doing dinners and watching movies, playing games, keeping in work and saving money. I have a fair bit of anxiety about fucking up and losing my support network at times esp when drinking or smoking too much.

Validation, doing cool stuff and staying comfortable with just enough transgression to not be stagnant is what I aim for ¯\_(ツ)_/¯



Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on November 15, 2018, 09:06:40 AM
That's some good advice, thank you. :)
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on November 15, 2018, 03:22:28 PM
Create something.
Even if it sucks. Create something. There's something therapeutic to look at something where there was nothing before and being like "I did that"

Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on November 15, 2018, 04:08:26 PM
I think the SOP is reaching out and talking about it. Sending love to your friend
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on November 15, 2018, 06:51:35 PM
Feeling great mentally. A few weeks ago after talking with someone close to me, they convinced me to no longer discuss politics with people. Just read news and vote and it's been really great not having to pick sides or even converse about it so far. I've applied this to all sectors of my life from irl, social media, to even the bore. No longer talking about politics is a huge burden off my chest. It's not that I don't care anymore, I just don't want to talk to anyone about it besides with people I trust. It's also allowed me to finally shed the gun nut fear mongering I've been surrounded by. Just being a liberal gun supporter who shoots paper at shooting ranges to be trained for self defense situations is a huge mental weight off my shoulders rather than deal with the constant fear mongering. Just letting go feels good since no one really respects anything you say and no one's mind is ever really changed, talking politics is a fruitless endeavor that divides people further. My time on the bore, just chatting about games has made my time on the site better, dealings with RahX aside. I realize I let a lot of online dealings get to me too much. But it's easier to digest when you realize it's best for just not taking seriously. If people you've been posting with for over a decade allow someone to humor the idea that you possibly look like Gary Coleman in a wig, then it's pointless getting mad at all. Getting mad requires investment. Why be invested with people who clearly do not care? This goes for irl as well.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on November 15, 2018, 07:02:44 PM
As you all know, my youngest son is autistic. So I have a fair amount of friends that are also parents of autistic kids. One dear friend has a pre-school daughter that in particular is...well....I'm not sure how to describe it...saying she's a handful is an understatement. She's barely verbal, she unlocks doors and then goes running around outside. She never stops trying to escape or getting into things she shouldn't. It's really hard to see how my friend has put her whole life on hold for her daughter. She's no longer who she was. She's just a poor lady always following this kid running around saying "No. Stop that! No. Don't touch! No. Get out of there! No don't paint that! No. Don't cut that!" She really loves her daughter, but even she knows she's completely lost who she was. It's really depressing.  :goty
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on November 16, 2018, 10:19:14 PM
My seasonal affective bs is making me feel to tightly wound, anxious 😟
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 18, 2018, 07:08:26 AM
Had a real bad episode today guys.

I'm just a mess of a person on a lot of levels and I'm not sure how I'm going to work my way out.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on November 18, 2018, 10:45:17 AM
A lot of us are in the same situation. Imo work towards a goal. You’ve told me before you didn’t have any but I think you should aim for what pleases you.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on November 18, 2018, 01:48:50 PM
Yeah my seasonal disorder stuff is really rough this year. Hang in there boreans.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 18, 2018, 10:49:41 PM
A lot of us are in the same situation. Imo work towards a goal. You’ve told me before you didn’t have any but I think you should aim for what pleases you.
And I  really appreciate this as I've been a huge ass to you recently.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on November 18, 2018, 10:53:16 PM
Awww we are all depressed curmudgeons here

Group hug
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on November 23, 2018, 01:57:48 AM
Another year another thanksgiving alone.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on November 23, 2018, 06:24:13 PM
Another year another thanksgiving alone.

Whenever we do a Bore friendsgiving you're sitting next to me. :heartbeat
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on November 23, 2018, 06:28:18 PM
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Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on November 23, 2018, 06:32:08 PM
Dude. I’m going to tweet you because I feel uncomfortable talking about your public life on this forum.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on November 29, 2018, 12:32:10 AM
How do people deal with this for years? Jesus
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Cryo on November 29, 2018, 12:35:07 AM
How do people deal with this for years? Jesus
:playa

tbh I don’t abuse substances, but doctor’s visits are making it clear that stress/depression/anxiety have taken a physical toll on my body
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on November 29, 2018, 01:05:00 AM
How do people deal with this for years? Jesus
What's the "you must be logged in to see this post" bb code  :doge

hide
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Kara on November 29, 2018, 01:17:02 AM
It gets easier after your third or fourth major depressive episode, though to get through my last one I had to do some things that were pretty drastic.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on November 29, 2018, 01:18:09 AM
You get numb to it. Eventually you just feel apathy.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Cryo on November 29, 2018, 01:27:59 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/dvnaw08.jpg)

me irl, s/o toku for posting this
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Rufus on November 29, 2018, 10:09:27 AM
How do people deal with this for years? Jesus
(https://i.imgur.com/rh4T1zj.jpg)
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: toku on November 29, 2018, 11:32:44 AM
One of the big things to learn is that these things, these feelings, tend to have a kind of momentum. You learn to slow the swing, to ride it out in a more intimate way that it becomes maybe less destructive than it often is initially. You'll get good at this and even be able to cut it off early sometimes.

Can't begin to know the intimate details of your situation or what you're feeling but one thing I want you to absolutely get tasty is that you're not alone and that you must be kind to yourself in these moments. Not in some cheesey self-care way (tho take care of yourself) but in a very real disciplined self talking kind of way. Forgive yourself, don't let yourself fall into this trap of thinking & talking badly about yourself. It is not productive at all, don't punish yourself. The world has innumerable ways of doing that already lol
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on November 29, 2018, 11:33:58 AM
What if you treated yourself like someone you loved?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on December 05, 2018, 05:34:31 PM
In a real bad spot. Struggling to break thought patterns of suicidal ideation. Feeling isolated. Had a bit of a self harm stimming type breakdown. Dunno brehs
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on December 05, 2018, 05:41:33 PM
In a real bad spot. Struggling to break thought patterns of suicidal ideation. Feeling isolated. Had a bit of a self harm stimming type breakdown. Dunno brehs

You're one of my favorite people here and I always look forward to your posts. Don't give up. You are loved. :heartbeat

Are you talking to anyone? Not necessarily a therapist, just someone IRL you can vent to?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: shosta on December 05, 2018, 05:42:12 PM
We're all here for you, cats.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on December 05, 2018, 05:47:37 PM
Yeah I mean, I’ve kinda backed myself into a corner that I’m going to need to get therapy. I’ve never been, was raised to treat it with disdain. Lots of alcoholism and shuttered window abuse in my childhood + undiagnosed autism, I’m fairly broken. I need to change something but I’m pretty fearful of trying tbh
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on December 05, 2018, 05:58:38 PM
Yeah I mean, I’ve kinda backed myself into a corner that I’m going to need to get therapy. I’ve never been, was raised to treat it with disdain. Lots of alcoholism and shuttered window abuse in my childhood + undiagnosed autism, I’m fairly broken. I need to change something but I’m pretty fearful of trying tbh

A therapist seems like the way to go then, yeah. And at first it'll seem bad and weird and you'll probably feel guilty, then guilty about feeling guilty, but that's normal and please, listen to me: looking after yourself is never bad. Ever.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on December 05, 2018, 06:07:24 PM
Spencer :( Please go to therapist.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on December 05, 2018, 06:09:10 PM
Tbh I resent my parents for never getting me any help. I dropped out of high school at 15 because of a suicide attempt that got swept under the rug. I was smart enough to pass GED with “honors” that summer without studying and tested into college courses at the community college. The depression swung back around as my first real (super tumultuous) relationship with a girl I met there became my primary focus and I bailed out of my computer science transfer degree. I managed to salvage it into an associates of general studies with one more elective a couple years later but have been stuck in essentially manual labor ever since. Now I’m 30 and feel like I kinda threw away a lot or wasted a lot of my life. Now after years of shouldering almost all the financial burden as my wife had some debilitating health issues, our finances are pretty decent at the moment and I could potentially change jobs, maybe even to part time and do some kind of training but I’m paralyzed with the fear of losing the stability we finally have. A lot of days I just think I’ve gone too far down the wrong paths and long for a reset
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: shosta on December 05, 2018, 06:22:42 PM
definitely not too late. if you had that interest before, you should consider trying to transition into tech again.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Transhuman on December 05, 2018, 08:03:38 PM
Hey, need some advice. Lately all my waking thoughts are consumed with intrusive thoughts about committing suicide, until eventually the intrusive thoughts build up and outnumber all the others. When this happens the only thing I keep coming back to in my mind is trying to think of a way to justify to myself all the pain it would cause my brother. Is it possible this could be a sign of some type of depression or something it?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: chronovore on December 06, 2018, 03:05:06 AM
My reading comprehension is utter shit today, so sorry -- it's not clear if you're wanting to cause your brother pain by committing suicide, or if you're preventing yourself from it by trying to be considerate of a loved one.

Either way, intrusive thoughts which lean toward suicide, yeah, sounds very difficult to deal with and symptomatic of a deeper problem. Get help. If you feel like killing yourself, call a suicide hotline.

I can't remember where you are, so here is an international list of hotline numbers:

http://ibpf.org/resource/list-international-suicide-hotlines
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Transhuman on December 06, 2018, 12:22:15 PM
My reading comprehension is utter shit today, so sorry -- it's not clear if you're wanting to cause your brother pain by committing suicide, or if you're preventing yourself from it by trying to be considerate of a loved one.

The latter. It's like my love for him is this anchor keeping me alive. I wish he'd die so I there's nothing left preventing me from killing myself. I thought that was normal.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on December 06, 2018, 03:15:46 PM
Naw, love, most people aren’t stuck in that mindset like us. Find a way out that keeps you intact, and lemme know how you did it
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: toku on December 09, 2018, 08:29:41 PM
not even half way through the month yet lads whew
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Yeti on December 09, 2018, 09:21:57 PM
Good, because I have so much shit I need to do this month. December is too busy! :stahp
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on December 09, 2018, 09:33:04 PM
Brehs... the latest Hellsing Ultimate Abridged actually had some good advice, or at least some advice that spoke to me.

"Don't mistake youthful selfishness for genuine malice. Nobody *isn't* kind of an asshole in their early 20s. And if they actually weren't? They were probably sociopaths."

Maybe I should stop beating myself up. :thinking
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 10, 2018, 09:44:49 AM
Went to bed last night excited to go to work today, woke up ready to face the day, and within the last 30 min anxiety set in now, I'm going to skip a meeting and stay home.  SMH this year has been trash.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: thetylerrob on December 10, 2018, 02:26:29 PM
Tomorrow night I'm finally going to a psychiatrist and getting treated for ADHD, letting it go this far has really fucked up my life in a lot of ways. I dropped out of college with a few credits left to graduate, I always did terribly at school, my house is always a mess, I don't communicate with people well at all, I constantly lose touch with friends unless I see them every day, I burn out at jobs after about 6 months unless it's really engaging, I'm always depressed and I lie constantly when I'm trying to hide this shit from people. I'm really hoping this turns my life around somewhat, I just want some stability and I feel like I've wasted a lot of time.

Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on December 10, 2018, 02:30:35 PM
Tomorrow night I'm finally going to a psychiatrist and getting treated for ADHD, letting it go this far has really fucked up my life in a lot of ways. I dropped out of college with a few credits left to graduate, I always did terribly at school, my house is always a mess, I don't communicate with people well at all, I constantly lose touch with friends unless I see them every day, I burn out at jobs after about 6 months unless it's really engaging, I'm always depressed and I lie constantly when I'm trying to hide this shit from people. I'm really hoping this turns my life around somewhat, I just want some stability and I feel like I've wasted a lot of time.

Damn this hits close to home. Please post about how it goes.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on December 12, 2018, 09:43:50 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/yJVvC5N.gif)

People keep letting me down. Life sucks.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on December 12, 2018, 09:46:51 AM
Sorry things are rough Tasty. But people will always let you down. That's why I have 0 expectations from anyone.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: MMaRsu on December 12, 2018, 10:29:00 AM
Tomorrow night I'm finally going to a psychiatrist and getting treated for ADHD, letting it go this far has really fucked up my life in a lot of ways. I dropped out of college with a few credits left to graduate, I always did terribly at school, my house is always a mess, I don't communicate with people well at all, I constantly lose touch with friends unless I see them every day, I burn out at jobs after about 6 months unless it's really engaging, I'm always depressed and I lie constantly when I'm trying to hide this shit from people. I'm really hoping this turns my life around somewhat, I just want some stability and I feel like I've wasted a lot of time.

well shit this sounds too familliar

I was diagnosed with ADHD as a kid.. but I stopped taking medication so long ago and stopped seeing a psychiatrist around 15/16 as well.

I have a terrible time holding down a job, my house is also always a mess. My communication with people is also terrible it seems, which causes me to miss all sorts of job oppertunities. I used to lie a lot to hide this shit from my moms n stuff, but nowadays I just tell her everything.

I'm 32 now and just got laid off. Shit fucking sucks bro.

But you will get through it man and so will I I am sure of it.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: thetylerrob on December 12, 2018, 04:17:47 PM
Saw the psychiatrist last night, it seemed to go pretty well.

He just asked me a list of about a hundred questions and tried to fill out my symptoms on a scale from 1-5 based on my answers. I feel like it's really hard to talk to someone about my mental issues in person because I don't keep an active list in my head of every symptom I experience they just randomly come to me or I'll realize they existed later. The list was really detailed but the guy joked around a lot to build a rapport with me, kinda felt awkward that he joked about suicide and whether I've ever wanted to kill anyone tho.  :doge

Anyway the only thing I'm shaky on is how skeptical he seemed to be at first, it feel's a little bit like he was trying to disprove that I have anything. He had to warn me that it's really hard to get anything prescribed because of how popular the drugs have become and he was really curious about why I've never sought treatment before (I'm 25). I basically had to explain to him that my parents didn't have insurance and I had tried before but was too broke/busy. Idk maybe I'm just paranoid about it because I'm used to being brushed off by people. Anyway he says we have to do some more tests but I'll have to wait until next month to do them and he didn't know if my insurance would need to cover them.

Sorry about your job MMaRsu, I know how it feels to lose your job randomly and it's honestly one of the worst feelings in the world.

Also sorry people are dicks, Tasty. We're here for you bro.

If you guys feel like you want to get diagnosed/treated look around your area for mental health facilities that use a sliding scale based on income, the guy told me initially that this first appointment would cost $140 but he ended up just waiving the fee at the end of the session. He said the next one will be $80.


Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on December 14, 2018, 12:31:59 AM
I fucking fuck everything up. Fuck
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on December 14, 2018, 01:20:08 AM
shootin love beams your way
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on December 14, 2018, 01:32:47 AM
Just wanna take poppers until I fall asleep and don't wake up. Sounds nice. Probably need a chaser.

Edit- Not killing myself, just talking hypothetically.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: shosta on December 14, 2018, 01:40:46 AM
Tasty, I just figured all my shit out by having three espressos and then sitting for two hours in a hot shower. I highly recommend it.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on December 14, 2018, 02:01:13 AM
Edit- Ugh morning afters
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Trent Dole on December 14, 2018, 04:41:54 AM
Tasty, I just figured all my shit out by having three espressos and then sitting for two hours in a hot shower. I highly recommend it.
Would having a triple shot work? :thinking
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: benjipwns on December 14, 2018, 06:45:15 AM
Anyway the only thing I'm shaky on is how skeptical he seemed to be at first, it feel's a little bit like he was trying to disprove that I have anything.
This is often kinda less trying to wave you off than it is pushing back a little from outside to see your reactions. He'll probably subtly and openly test you in a variety of ways especially early on just to get a feel of how you be.

Or he may just be skeptical or looking to make a narrow diagnosis. I don't want to pretend that's not possible.

The fact that he waived the fee and gave you a cheaper one for next time seems to indicate he'd like to work with you though, trying to remove some of the logistical barriers to you returning.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: benjipwns on December 14, 2018, 07:15:53 AM
Re: rolling without insurance or having low level insurance

A perhaps surprising number of therapists, actually doctors in general really, will often be more flexible on costs with cash payments (or check) for at least a few patients or so.

Regarding prescription drugs, there are also discount programs many pharmacies already have in the system and you can just ask about them when dropping off, but you can also find a number of them on the onlines and often it's just stuff you print off or they send a card for free that you can dump a bunch of on the counter. Then the pharmacist enters a code like thing that applies the discounts. And sometimes they will use multiple different ones to get you the cheapest cost on each drug if they're cool. My pharmacist has hers setup so it automatically goes through the discount programs to apply cheapest one, I pay like $35ish for three drugs. But for example, CVS wanted me to pay up to like $80 for far less drugs through THEIR "discount" program years ago, so it can be worthwhile to query different places as they can usually give you an estimate.

Obviously nothing to rely on for everything or in every instance, but can be of value in certain situations.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on December 14, 2018, 01:15:22 PM
Long story short, I think I need to put some distance between my parents and I and get help for me.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on December 14, 2018, 01:27:53 PM
Me and hour-long hot showers are well acquainted. :P
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: toku on December 14, 2018, 02:46:21 PM
Long story short, I think I need to put some distance between my parents and I and get help for me.

I saw before the edit and I think thats a good call. Things are always a little heightened right now too so go easy on yourself.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on December 14, 2018, 08:32:42 PM
 :yuck
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: BlueTsunami on December 14, 2018, 11:11:20 PM
Twenty years of depression feels like its on its last legs. All due to, seemingly, bad body image issues. Wish I didnt squander my 20s due to this relatively simple fix.

But as that veil pulls away I'm noticing anger coming through. Lots of it.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: TVC15 on December 15, 2018, 12:22:27 AM
Twenty years of depression feels like its on its last legs. All due to, seemingly, bad body image issues. Wish I didnt squander my 20s due to this relatively simple fix.

But as that veil pulls away I'm noticing anger coming through. Lots of it.

I you don’t mind, can you pm me about wHat you think your sitch is? I might be in a similar boat.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on December 17, 2018, 01:14:53 PM
Agreed to go talk things over with my mom tonight, would rather blast myself (but will not)
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: TVC15 on December 18, 2018, 10:18:56 PM
Strange depression. 4 hours before bed and I'm just so fucking bored. Nothing seems worth doing. Bored to depression.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on December 18, 2018, 10:57:12 PM
Strange depression. 4 hours before bed and I'm just so fucking bored. Nothing seems worth doing. Bored to depression.

Been sorta feeling this lately. And my apt feels so empty when it's just me here. Makes my near-term move even more melancholic.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 18, 2018, 11:18:56 PM
That depression is normal life for me. 
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: TVC15 on December 18, 2018, 11:28:41 PM
I found a cure: high thc cannabis and 30 Rock.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on December 18, 2018, 11:45:44 PM
I found a cure: high thc cannabis and 30 Rock.

I was doing some vaping and Brooklyn 99, haha.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 19, 2018, 12:04:08 AM
I'm sober and watching House MD for the 4th time through, hahaha. 
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: TVC15 on December 19, 2018, 12:13:20 AM
I'm also fiddling with my Chrome Slate.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on December 19, 2018, 12:13:47 AM
I'm also fiddling with my Chrome Slate.

How is it? You get the Pen? The keyboard?



Sent from my Google Pixelbook.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: TVC15 on December 19, 2018, 12:22:39 AM
I'm also fiddling with my Chrome Slate.

How is it? You get the Pen? The keyboard?



Sent from my Google Pixelbook.

Still waiting on the pen and case.

It's a lovely device, but I get the impression Chrome OS is going through its awkward teenage years as an OS. It's perfectly usable, but there's some weirdness as a tablet OS. I'll definitely get a lot of use out of it as a web browser and reader. It has a big, beautiful screen and it's super light.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on December 19, 2018, 12:45:39 AM
Yeah the tablet stuff is a very very very recent addition and very much a WIP.

Good thing about CrOS though is that it updates every six weeks.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 29, 2018, 09:05:59 PM
Twenty years of depression feels like its on its last legs. All due to, seemingly, bad body image issues. Wish I didnt squander my 20s due to this relatively simple fix.

But as that veil pulls away I'm noticing anger coming through. Lots of it.

When I lost a bunch of weight a long time ago, it took me years to get over the various issues that I didn’t really think about or knew existed.  There were a lot of times where I felt anger and resentment towards people who treated me differently.  I got over it but was shocked at how long it took me to get over it.  Rewiring you brain to not think of yourself as fat is a long term process if you had spent a good part of your life overweight.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on December 30, 2018, 12:23:08 AM
I've spent my xmas week off in pretty much a depression. I always have depression but it's luckily not that bad and as long as I stay busy with work, chores, social stuff, trips, etc... to fill my calendar I don't often have a lot of free time to be depressed.

But this week I had basically jack and shit to do all week, so depression hit pretty hard and I went from getting up at like 7am and jogging everyday and getting to sleep by 11-midnight to sleeping in until like 10-12am, up to 2-3am, and multiple naps throughout the day on top of that. Always feeling tired and shitty and just wanna sleep and playing videogames. At least I've still been managing to work out daily and I feel better after that but it ends up being at some random time in the day and because my time schedule is all thrown off I'm eating at weird times or not really eating enough and just grabbing fast food feeling kinda shitty from that.

I was supposed to go to 2 parties today, both full of mostly strangers (knew 1 person in each) and in cities 30-40 mins away. Ended up flaking on both. First one because I overslept and wasn't ready in time, second because I had some crappy fast food for lunch and wasn't feeling that good and passed out napping instead.

At least I'm back to full time work schedule next week.

Basically the only things that keep me from being depressed which makes me super introverted is exercise (which gives a good energy boost for 4-5 hours), coffee (same for about 4-5 hours but I can't drink more than one per day or it fucks me up, so I try to save it for like early afternoon to get energy for the main part of the day) and hanging with friends I'm close with. When I do any of that I'm happy and in a good mood. Otherwise I'm depressed :| A lot of my dating troubles comes from on a good energy day I'll start chatting with someone and hit it off and they think I'm great and then I have a low energy/depression day or two and I basically don't text them at all and they disappear. To date I need to continually be in good energy/positive and that's tough for me. /sigh
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on December 30, 2018, 12:51:38 AM
I love all of you.  I hope everyone feels better!
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: thisismyusername on December 30, 2018, 01:11:32 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/aarzf7/researchers_found_that_increases_in_physical/

:thinking
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on December 30, 2018, 01:22:14 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/aarzf7/researchers_found_that_increases_in_physical/

:thinking

Jiu jitsu saves. :heartbeat
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: BlueTsunami on December 30, 2018, 01:43:45 AM
The more weight i lose the more manic I become, is that a thing?

Eurphoria, yet i was bed ridden two days ago in absolute stillness. Feels like I I'm a battle.with my self loathing

The drugs and booze aint helping. As much as I love mescaline, as gentle as it can be, that shit FUCKED up my self image this last go around.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 31, 2018, 12:24:58 PM
I know self diagnosis isn’t cool but I wonder if I’m bi-polar.

I feel like my adult life is extremely happy and positive or super negative and depressed. Often changing at the slightest whims of outside forces.

Even my mom thinks I may be
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: benjipwns on January 01, 2019, 04:57:01 AM
the mania period of bipolar isn't "happy and positive" it's an inversed depression that's still negative, bipolar is generally non-reactive to events, not that it's immune as that would be silly, but generally there is not a clear rational pattern to the periods of mania and depression explained by outside events...usually they tend more to exacerbate the already cycled period

there is a "lower" form of bipolar type cycles in which the full fledged criteria for manic and depressive periods is not met: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclothymia

there's also a difference between bipolar ii and bipolar i that i can never remember, and there's a misleadingly named hyper cyclical or something that's actually the months long period version and the one where you can switch daily or weekly is not "hyper"

one upside is that a lot of bipolar treatments can generally be applied to plain depression without any resulting downside, because if you think of it like a graph, what you're trying to mess with are the amplitude and frequency and lower both, whether or not the "graph" is above the x-axis or not...if it turns out to be more depression than anything then it's a small shift in treatment (often less so in medication)

cycling in and out of depressive periods is generally normal to depression, so the positive part is when you're up in the cycle, it doesn't have to become bipolar which is two inverse extreme periods

similarly to the "lower" form of bipolar there is a "lower" form of depression: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysthymia

i note these more to point out that there are some more-specific lower-level diagnoses that may be more applicable than the exact specifics of the formal bipolar and depression diagnoses that the broad high level overviews may obscure...though usually treatment is similar since these are all under one big umbrella like the category A/B/C personality disorders are

all the standard disclaimers (everyone different, generalizing, summarizing, probably remembering things wrong, etc.) of course, plus the extra special disclaimer that my formal training/degrees are social sciences not applied sciences so i have no formal credentials in psychology/psychiatry, just what i've picked up from personal experience
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: eleuin on January 05, 2019, 10:06:21 PM
long incoherent rant in the spoiler tags, I just wanted to vent

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I'm thinking of switching my major for the 2nd time. Maybe it's just the depression but studying IT has went from tolerable to something I actively detest. I don't even know what I want to do though. The prospect of starting over is also terrifying. I'm 22, I should be done with school and looking for a real job to support my parents who are reaching retirement age. I also have 12K in student debt looming over my head, which I know isn't a relative lot, but I have no money to my name and wouldn't be able to hold down a job while going to school. I tried that once and it ended in disaster for my grades.

The antidepressants I've started taking - Escitalopram, help I think. I'm not as lethargic as before. I know that no drug is going to single handily make my want to salvage me life though. I'm still on a waitlist for government covered therapy. Feeling this image pretty hard. I don't have the balls for suicide, but it looks very appealing.

(https://i.imgur.com/9ATq8kA.jpg)
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Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: shosta on January 05, 2019, 10:16:32 PM
When you say your major is "IT", do you mean Computer Science?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: eleuin on January 05, 2019, 10:37:50 PM
Yeah, that wasn't clear, my bad
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: shosta on January 06, 2019, 12:08:51 AM
Don't you fucking dare change majors. You're not going to find whatever's missing in your life by blowing up your future.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Rufus on January 06, 2019, 01:17:41 AM
Whatever you end up doing, don't stress about your age. Nothing is set in stone.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Trent Dole on January 06, 2019, 01:31:10 AM
Hah, tell it to my soon to be exwife who thinks I'm going to be the same forever cause I'm age X. :doge
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on January 08, 2019, 12:30:04 PM
Don't you fucking dare change majors. You're not going to find whatever's missing in your life by blowing up your future.
I do and I don't agree with this.

I mean, I went to college with the aim to get a Renaissance type education. Learn as much as I can about as much as I can. I had a Music Performance major and 6 minors.  I only flunked one class my whole life and it was Computer Science 101.  So part of me is totally an advocate of University != Job training Center type of thinking.

That being said, I do feel I've done well for myself, but I also know it's DESPITE of my degree and it would've been far easier with a degree and I'd have more mobility with the right degree.

I'd say "Don't do anything you'll regret" But that's trite. You're going to regret whatever decision you make. So let me leave it as "Pick what you will regret least." If you want to move away from IT but you're OK with living in a cardboard box, then do it. Likewise, if money is your focus then you'll have to sacrifice something for it.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: benjipwns on January 16, 2019, 09:01:43 PM
i don't really do anger, so i can't even get angry enough to just be done, whatever well i spose (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2Z8OUlrunM)

edit: my meds schedule is all messed up on top of things because i'm stupid sometimes, okay maybe more often, but i don't exactly pretend i'm not messed up, plus that's like my favorite mst3k clip

i should ease into controlled anger by getting angry at people who don't recognize it
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: benjipwns on January 16, 2019, 09:33:32 PM
my main point is, that i don't know, probably pretty obvious now that i think about it
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: curly on January 17, 2019, 12:11:48 AM
long incoherent rant in the spoiler tags, I just wanted to vent

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I'm thinking of switching my major for the 2nd time. Maybe it's just the depression but studying IT has went from tolerable to something I actively detest. I don't even know what I want to do though. The prospect of starting over is also terrifying. I'm 22, I should be done with school and looking for a real job to support my parents who are reaching retirement age. I also have 12K in student debt looming over my head, which I know isn't a relative lot, but I have no money to my name and wouldn't be able to hold down a job while going to school. I tried that once and it ended in disaster for my grades.

The antidepressants I've started taking - Escitalopram, help I think. I'm not as lethargic as before. I know that no drug is going to single handily make my want to salvage me life though. I'm still on a waitlist for government covered therapy. Feeling this image pretty hard. I don't have the balls for suicide, but it looks very appealing.

(https://i.imgur.com/9ATq8kA.jpg)
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There's so many people who are still in school in their late 20s and 30s, there's really no time when you "should" be done with it. Plenty of successful people didn't finish school until they were way older than you are now.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Cryo on January 17, 2019, 12:32:16 AM
long incoherent rant in the spoiler tags, I just wanted to vent

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I'm thinking of switching my major for the 2nd time. Maybe it's just the depression but studying IT has went from tolerable to something I actively detest. I don't even know what I want to do though. The prospect of starting over is also terrifying. I'm 22, I should be done with school and looking for a real job to support my parents who are reaching retirement age. I also have 12K in student debt looming over my head, which I know isn't a relative lot, but I have no money to my name and wouldn't be able to hold down a job while going to school. I tried that once and it ended in disaster for my grades.

The antidepressants I've started taking - Escitalopram, help I think. I'm not as lethargic as before. I know that no drug is going to single handily make my want to salvage me life though. I'm still on a waitlist for government covered therapy. Feeling this image pretty hard. I don't have the balls for suicide, but it looks very appealing.

(https://i.imgur.com/9ATq8kA.jpg)
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as someone five years older than you with retirement age parents, and just finished their bachelors degree last month, hang in there. it’s definitely worth doing some soul searching/talk therapy to figure out what’s the root cause of your detestment of your major - it could very well be for a reason that is antithetical to what you want from a future career, but perhaps you can try to rediscover what you liked about it and try to focus on things that are aligned with that aspect. would you actually need to start over, or are there tech-based majors that you’d be able to transfer coursework with?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: benjipwns on January 17, 2019, 08:08:56 PM
meds back on proper cycle + good sleep = :success

nice that the weirdest thing i did on The Bire was delete posts attacking Contrapoints and ramble about Angel Studios... actually this was probably the weirdest thing i did because i was already pretty exhausted by the time i got on here :lol

also, i had a cleaning at the dentist :wow
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: benjipwns on January 17, 2019, 08:21:12 PM
re: changing majors at 22

don't worry about it that much, especially if you're going to be at the same university/college

perchance might you mention what you thinking about transferring into? if it's not too far from computer science you won't be starting over completely, and in any case you won't be because of core classes you probably had to/have to take

back when i was an undergrad, i was just getting a history major, and was going to get a poli sci minor (we didn't have to pick that until later) but because of the courses i had happened to take already i only needed two extra classes to double major, and all core classes count for every major (this should be the same at your university if American unless Ivy League or private)

if you still have a number of core/elective classes to take, try a semester away from your major, or minimal classes in your major, i tossed out history for a semester to take BOWLING (very important life skills), DANGEROUS PLANET (for science credit...it was about hurricanes, volcanoes, etc.), some English thing for credit and Human Genetics for rest of science credit...then when i came back to history it didn't seem as boring, especially with the summer inbetween

regarding the age part, don't feel like you have to "start" life at an age, obviously it's great to get started earlier and there can be pushing it too far when you're say 45 but everyone starts at a different time, many people completely start over...i know a guy who spent 20 years as a professional photographer in the advertising industry, then went back to school to get an English degree to teach English

if you're feeling anxious about a job, take a look around school, there's lots of places for computer science people in every department, places you won't even think of will take one and then teach them the department specifics (which don't actually exist) there's even more obvious stuff like just sitting around a computer lab in case anyone needs help or to stop the foreign guy from printing 30 copies of his 200 page masters degree...if you have it good with any professors they can usually hook you up with something easy, albeit maybe only temporary...i'd say most campus jobs for students are like 10% work, 90% free study time...actually strike "for students"

edit: oops, didn't see this was your second time changing majors, so a lot of my advice you already knew, that said, definitely try to think of a second major change as your final one, i know lots of people think that regarding their first change, but if it's your second one you really want to be more laser focused on it

personally, i graduated a year "late" in part because of that double major and in part because i refused to be one of those people like a couple roommates who took like seven classes a semester and constantly burned out, most i ever took was five

i made up for it in grad school before becoming stupid and going for a second one again

a friend from high school changed his majors five times and finally graduated undergrad at age 27 because he just wouldn't stop taking courses, especially ones that didn't multi-count...his year as a woman studies major probably set him back the most
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: stufte on January 22, 2019, 09:29:17 PM
Doctor wants me to see a therapist for depression. I've never been diagnosed as having depression before, but I guess it makes sense. Any tips on what I should look for in a therapist?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on January 22, 2019, 09:34:30 PM
Just wanna take poppers until I fall asleep and don't wake up. Sounds nice. Probably need a chaser.

Edit- Not killing myself, just talking hypothetically.
(https://i.imgur.com/FTcRuVf.jpg)
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: benjipwns on January 23, 2019, 04:39:05 AM
Doctor wants me to see a therapist for depression. I've never been diagnosed as having depression before, but I guess it makes sense. Any tips on what I should look for in a therapist?
That you're comfortable with them. It's fine to do intake, realize the person isn't going to work and move onto someone else. If you don't feel comfortable talking to someone younger than you or older than you or female, that's okay.

Their methodology can be related to this, you may find they're great but whatever they suggest just isn't right for whatever reason.

Basically, it's okay to try a few even if you don't get it right the first time. There are many instances where you can get a handful of names, perhaps from your doctor, and they may even suggest one they think would be good for you, etc. You can also ask for recommendations if you do intake with someone and find it doesn't seem to work, they may have some names to suggest you try who have a different approach.

At the same time, early sessions will focus on them figuring you out so it can be somewhat annoying and even repetitive but they're trying to paint a picture. The fact that you have a suggested diagnosis from a doctor can speed this up a little as they'll be looking for that rather than trying to figure it out from scratch.

But the main thing is really that you have to feel comfortable with the setting, the person, etc. otherwise you're not going to be able to work with them and vice versa like you could.

You don't want someone to coddle you though, no matter what, you're not a developer and never will be. Anyone who tells you that is just making things worse.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: porkbun on January 23, 2019, 11:49:50 AM
Agree with most of what benji said.  You may also want to look at one that does CBT.  I hated "normal" therapy but I started with one that did it a couple of months ago (after I had a bad breakdown where I left to Vegas and went radio silent for a week, which ended up with me going to inpatient for another week) and it's had good results so far.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on January 23, 2019, 12:38:16 PM
I signed up with 7cups and it’s pretty good I guess
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: TVC15 on March 05, 2019, 08:49:38 PM
A Ketamine-Based Nasal Spray Is Now an FDA-Approved Depression Treatment
https://gizmodo.com/a-ketamine-based-nasal-spray-is-now-an-fda-approved-dep-1833048695

Very excited about this. No antidepressants I’ve tried work for me, and due to my collection of neuroses, I can’t really experiment with ones currently on the market because they may exacerbate other problems.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 21, 2019, 12:43:43 PM
Having another depression/anxiety episode right now exactly when I can't afford it.  Fuck I'm tired of this shit. 
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on March 21, 2019, 12:53:26 PM
yeah, work is back to nervous breakdown territory and only getting worse. I had hoped I would've changed the situation by now, but apparently, nope that's not happening. Through changes in my life I now have more people to support me and they've been doing a wonderful job and it's beautiful to see that happening. But at the same time it feels like I just have more people to let down and make nervous now.  I hate this.

And I feel you Arvie. These things never come when you can afford to deal with it.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: chronovore on March 22, 2019, 10:19:43 AM
Having another depression/anxiety episode right now exactly when I can't afford it.  Fuck I'm tired of this shit.

Duuuuuude. You're awesome. Get some chill.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Propagandhim on March 22, 2019, 12:25:54 PM
A Ketamine-Based Nasal Spray Is Now an FDA-Approved Depression Treatment
https://gizmodo.com/a-ketamine-based-nasal-spray-is-now-an-fda-approved-dep-1833048695

Very excited about this. No antidepressants I’ve tried work for me, and due to my collection of neuroses, I can’t really experiment with ones currently on the market because they may exacerbate other problems.

Next step: How to get psychiatry to accommodate patients who inquire about this as a possible treatment without labeling them as 'drug-seekers' and running them through decade-long trials of SSRIs before they use this.    Also, this stuff is probably insanely expensive.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: toku on March 22, 2019, 11:10:06 PM
Blue week. Blue day. Trying to shake it.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: chronovore on March 24, 2019, 10:28:09 AM
Blue week. Blue day. Trying to shake it.

YOU GOT THIS.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on March 24, 2019, 10:42:09 PM
Monday is coming. Not ready for another week.  :-\
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: The Sceneman on March 24, 2019, 11:27:31 PM
I've been depressed in some capacity for about 15 years now, some super lows but I've been improving over the past few years.

But today, fucking hell. I couldn't actually move until 3pm. I've been quite sick (colds) the past couple of weeks so I'm hoping that is the main culprit, but I'm petrified that I might actually be quite depressed without realising it. I had a fight with my partner last night and I have been going over awful thoughts involving running away and hurting myself and dying in a bush somewhere. I'm also feeling really despondent and apathetic about my university work.

In all honestly this could be solved by getting some good exercise in but it's so hard to get started when you're in the pits like this
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on March 24, 2019, 11:50:19 PM
You know, I don't buy the whole "exercising cures depression." Since this episode started last year I've been working out pretty consistently. And I'm thankfully in the best shape of my life. But while it helps burn up the energy and helps me fight my demons, it definitely doesn't get rid of them and it only helps while I'm exercising. Being in shape is certainly a good self esteem booster and I'm very glad for that. It only helps with depression it certainly doesn't clear it up, in fact, it helps like taking on any hobby will help.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: The Sceneman on March 25, 2019, 01:47:56 AM
Yeah all good points there. I prepared a nice healthy meal for my girlfriend and I so feeling a bit better now. Forcing myself out the door for a walk.

Then facing the music with my bullshit uni work. Thankfully I'm close to graduating
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: benjipwns on March 25, 2019, 02:06:36 AM
It's usually used as a suggestion because most people aren't good exercisers. If you are, then no, it probably isn't as helpful. There are obvious benefits to exercise that help but it's certainly not a cure all. It's just one of those things that doesn't have a downside and most people can be assumed to not be doing it so it's a freebie. It's not as easy to know if say somebody likes to play sports or even something as non-athletic as they like to read but haven't been until you get to know more about them.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on March 25, 2019, 05:47:48 AM
Oh I totally agree. It's just annoying, just like those people that believe that you can pray depression away.  Look, if it was that easy then no smart people would have depression.  "Oh! I just have to run/pray/eat organic food? Her her, why didn't I think of that?" I get that people are trying to "help" it's just dismissive. But again, it does HELP. And it only does if you're damned committed about it.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on March 28, 2019, 12:31:26 PM
Been having crazy anxiety bouts this past month;  I've felt fairly "level headed" for a couple of years now after dealing with anxiety for a long time.

I had attributed the positive change to a change in jobs/employers which was good for me.. but this return of anxiety has coincided with my job going better than ever.   And it's way worse than before;  the swings are so incredibly wild, like going from feeling great, almost euphoric, to having near panic attacks. 

I did also stop smoking pot near the other positive change;  and took it back up this past November due to my migraines developing a nausea aspect to them. 

Gonna try quitting again to see if that helps, but if these attacks continue I guess I need medication?  Literally feel like I could die, can't seem to control my breathing, etc.  Lasts for a good couple of minutes.

I did also recently go through a sort of resurfacing of some past trauma; something I'd burried pretty deep, and the panic attacks directly coincide with when that happened.  The resurfacing was fairly life changing to me, so maybe it's just that?  Some of my initial anxiety was revolving around that;  this feeling like I had no control over my emotions, like I could break down at any moment in mental anguish over it specifically.. but now the anxiety is less specific than that.  It can be anything I think about that isn't 100% positive all of a sudden turns into a world ending problem in my mind and then I feel like I'm going to hyperventilate.   My wife is out of town for a week and it's been really bad since she left, and I haven't told her because I don't want to ruin her trip... sucks.
riotoast, I love you, but DON'T DO THIS SHIT.
If the situation was reversed, you'd want to know and help. If she comes back and finds out she might be touched, but likely she'll be pissed. I know the feeling of "oh this is how I die apparently" when you have a really bad attack. For me it's mainly triggered by work stress. But the only way I made it was by letting those who love me, love me. I know the whole "I don't want to burden them" thing, believe me, that's a fight I still go through every day, but a friend taught me to think of it as if it were happening to my friend/wife. Wouldn't I want to know? Wouldn't I want to help? Wouldn't I be pissed if they tried to do it all on their own? Don't rob them of the opportunity to love you, even when you don't feel like you are easy to love. I don't know any other way to make it. Hang in there, and if you need to chat, hit me on PM. I had anxiety that bad last year and am still fighting it. So I feel ya. Hang in there.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Transhuman on March 28, 2019, 01:16:29 PM
Been having crazy anxiety bouts this past month;  I've felt fairly "level headed" for a couple of years now after dealing with anxiety for a long time.

I had attributed the positive change to a change in jobs/employers which was good for me.. but this return of anxiety has coincided with my job going better than ever.   And it's way worse than before;  the swings are so incredibly wild, like going from feeling great, almost euphoric, to having near panic attacks. 

I did also stop smoking pot near the other positive change;  and took it back up this past November due to my migraines developing a nausea aspect to them. 

Gonna try quitting again to see if that helps, but if these attacks continue I guess I need medication?  Literally feel like I could die, can't seem to control my breathing, etc.  Lasts for a good couple of minutes.

I did also recently go through a sort of resurfacing of some past trauma; something I'd burried pretty deep, and the panic attacks directly coincide with when that happened.  The resurfacing was fairly life changing to me, so maybe it's just that?  Some of my initial anxiety was revolving around that;  this feeling like I had no control over my emotions, like I could break down at any moment in mental anguish over it specifically.. but now the anxiety is less specific than that.  It can be anything I think about that isn't 100% positive all of a sudden turns into a world ending problem in my mind and then I feel like I'm going to hyperventilate.   My wife is out of town for a week and it's been really bad since she left, and I haven't told her because I don't want to ruin her trip... sucks.

If you're going to stop smoking pot i'd definitely suggest you ween yourself off, because if it's masking other symptoms you don't want to get hit with everything all at once.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on March 29, 2019, 12:55:16 AM
she needs to read less and like more. that's how the pros do it  :success
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on March 29, 2019, 05:23:07 AM
Work is insanity. I'm losing critical resources on a project for the most toxic client I've come across in my entire career and that project is in a critical time and on top of that my company decided now is the time to put me in charge of not one, but two additional projects. I swear they're trying to kill me
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: shosta on March 29, 2019, 02:54:06 PM
It's time to take me on as an unpaid intern :rejoice
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 29, 2019, 03:52:05 PM
body image issues can be a real bitch
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Propagandhim on April 11, 2019, 10:42:45 AM
Anyone here take Lexapro?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 11, 2019, 10:55:46 AM
I do!
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Propagandhim on April 11, 2019, 11:21:32 AM
I do!

Just switched to it after weaning off Cymbalta.    Anxiety through the fucking roof.  Hopefully this shit wears off.  Can barely think.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 11, 2019, 01:24:57 PM
Give it a few days – it evens out.  Getting back on can be a bitch.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Huff on April 11, 2019, 01:56:52 PM
I do!

Just switched to it after weaning off Cymbalta.    Anxiety through the fucking roof.  Hopefully this shit wears off.  Can barely think.

Did they start lexapro when you were taping off?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Huff on April 11, 2019, 02:00:27 PM
A Ketamine-Based Nasal Spray Is Now an FDA-Approved Depression Treatment
https://gizmodo.com/a-ketamine-based-nasal-spray-is-now-an-fda-approved-dep-1833048695

Very excited about this. No antidepressants I’ve tried work for me, and due to my collection of neuroses, I can’t really experiment with ones currently on the market because they may exacerbate other problems.

Ketamine infusions have been around for a bit at different psych centers. May want to look into it, ask your doc about a referral
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Propagandhim on April 11, 2019, 03:36:48 PM
I do!

Just switched to it after weaning off Cymbalta.    Anxiety through the fucking roof.  Hopefully this shit wears off.  Can barely think.

Did they start lexapro when you were taping off?

Was off Cymbalta for a little over a year --  No antidepressants for the past year.  Kinda a disaster.  Went on Lexapro for the first time yesterday. 
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Propagandhim on April 11, 2019, 03:42:07 PM
So you were doing OK then starting the pills caused more anxiety?

I was off medication for a little over a year and was not doing well.  Started Lexapro yesterday...and yeah, the anxiety is way worse than regular, but I suppose that's the initial adjustment period you have to muscle through.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on April 11, 2019, 08:53:25 PM
Wanted to come back in a better headspace, and I definitely am, but life around me has continued to degrade and I'm wondering how much longer I can hold out. Money's tighter than ever, a grandparent and family friend are possibly on their death-beads, pet animals from when I was growing up are getting old and sick, and I feel more creatively unfulfilled than ever before.

I'm steeling myself for my grandma's passing and advising other family members to do the same, because almost every day they tell me: "It couldn't possibly get worse."

Me, thinking about our three other still-living grandparents:

(https://i.imgur.com/eR9bh0n.png)
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 12, 2019, 11:09:15 AM
This last month has been a frustrating backslide. 
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 12, 2019, 12:19:26 PM
Birds of a feather?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Propagandhim on April 12, 2019, 12:39:49 PM
why the fuck is seemingly everyone on this forum depressed :doge

Why would we stay on forums for 10+ years if something wasn't wrong with us?   :doge
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Transhuman on April 12, 2019, 01:23:41 PM
What was I thinking no-one wants to read my sad-sack shit.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Transhuman on April 12, 2019, 01:24:56 PM
Actually now that I think about it, it's all Trump's fault.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 12, 2019, 01:32:54 PM
 :fbm
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Propagandhim on April 12, 2019, 07:16:28 PM
What was I thinking no-one wants to read my sad-sack shit.

Read it and I hear you loud and clear, dude.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Nintex on April 12, 2019, 07:28:25 PM
Sharing is caring my friends  :heart

I'm not depressed myself but my bro has been dealing with it for a long time (he was bullied at a young age to a point that he now suffers from PTSD) and he kept it hidden for 15+ years. He's seeing a therapist and it is really improving his life.

My mom has a very severe depression for about 5 years now, mostly because of her terrible childhood (her mother died young, her father was an abusive alcoholic, split with her entire family except 1 sister, and she suffered from a ton of health problems over the years (cancer(which she beat), infections etc.).

Depressions suck but the best thing you can do is let it all out before it consumes you.  :fbm
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 08, 2019, 08:17:30 PM
Still on a backslide.  Really not doing too well and I'm so tired of it. 
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: shosta on May 08, 2019, 09:18:19 PM
What's up? Thesis stuff again?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 09, 2019, 12:30:40 PM
Grad school stuff is the major part it, but I've also had periods of depression since highschool so this is mostly the norm. 
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 19, 2019, 01:10:24 AM
Recently I've been thinking about how my major issues/ personality faults have always been with me and its made it hard to think that they can change.  Like I have always been averse to competition and that's exactly what academia is. 
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 21, 2019, 09:08:48 PM
edit-nvm
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on June 29, 2019, 09:27:38 PM
Been having a bit of a time where everything is fucked and I really need a fresh start.

-Got the summer flu that's going around about 2 weeks ago, knocked me out a bunch and got behind in work and sleep schedule thrown off because was sleeping a lot during the day on cold meds and couldn't sleep at night so was like sleeping at 4am waking at noon. Stopped exercising completely.

-Thought it was mostly cleared up and needed to fix my sleep schedule so tried working out last sunday. Ended up making it 5x worse the next day and missed the first few days of work this week and got even further behind. Sleep schedule even more messed up. Thought maybe migraines/depression was causing it to be worse than it is so upped my Nortriptyline from 30mg to 40mg.

-Also been drinking more caffeine than usual to make it through work days when I sleep at 4-5am and wake up at like 8-10am so that I can try to get stuff done instead of being totally out of it.

-Doing like 95% better again, and got fairly caught up at work in the last few days this week but haven't been taking on new work/cases since I got sick so behind on that. Had a first date set this morning with someone that seemed going well in texts and we talked on the phone mid week and there was good momentum going into this date. Also had a birthday day of one of my friends in my main friend group that was like from 11am until dinner thing.

-Last night couldn't sleep AT ALL. Was in bed at midnight but felt wide awake and nothing helped. By 5am I took some night mucinex to try to knock me out and even that just made me tired and I couldn't fall asleep. Ended up pulling an all-nighter initial but was so tired and a) not comfortable driving & b) feeling like if I go to my date I'm going to totally blow it being red eye'd on the edge of sleep and can't concentrate, so I texted my date about moving the date to another day. Ended up falling asleep around 10am and slept until about 3pm. By the time I tried to get a hold of my social friends about the birthday stuff they were pretty much done and all wasted and I was the only person in our friend group that didn't show.

-I have a really busy work week next week since short week with 4th of July holiday and sleep is still all fucked up and still not sure if can exercise. I feel like I probably fucked that date up and it's most likely not gonna end up happening which sucks because she was actually local and not 90 mins away and we got along well enough on the phone & I feel like I let my friends down by not showing for the birthday get together. Just feels like dating life is currently fucked, social life is a little fucked, work is still kinda fucked, sleep is fucked, oh and I've only been eating like 2 meals a day way too much because I have breakfast at like noon and am not hungry until night and then that's all I eat. And daily exercise is incredibly helpful for my mental health and feeling ok about things and managing life and I probably still shouldn't jump back into it because I still have sinus drip stuff and when I did this last week it really made it worse.

Right now my plans is:

1. Going to drop back from 40mg to 30mg on Nort in case it's giving me worse insomnia.
2. Going to take some night mucinex at like 9pm and see if there's any way possible I can knock out tonight at a normal midnight-1am time and wake up at 8am which is where I want to be normally.
3. If I can't fall asleep I'm gonna pull an all-nighter since I have no plans tomorrow and its sunday and just stay up until tomorrow night and try to get back on sleep schedule.
4. Next time I see my friend I'll give him his birthday present, already wished him a happy birthday.
5. For the date girl, I can try to set something up for monday night so there isn't too long of a delay and momentum loss. I actually had a real good date planned today specific to her interests at a museum that's open 10am-5pm which is near a fun foodie center. Not sure what a good night date would be but will figure something out. I had asked her if we could move today's date to tomorrow (sunday) but she said she had plans so "maybe during the week"; I feel like I probably fucked this up already, but if there's any chance of recovery I wanna go for it.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 25, 2019, 12:44:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUfEfCSQBts&feature=youtu.be

I really related to this, as a famous Youtube personality. 
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: toku on July 30, 2019, 06:32:33 PM
It's that time of the year again boys...and it's too hot  :-\  :(
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 08, 2019, 12:24:05 PM
Sorry buddy, hope things get better. 
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 09, 2019, 12:16:31 PM
I'm back in the hole again.  Last week I thought I was doing a bit better but then I had to start working on my committee meeting again (which is a year late) and I have nothing to show.  It's killing me.  I have also started a really bad habit of drinking every night - four tall beers or so, which is obviously not good.  I've given up trying to eat right or really making any effort to go into work.  I'm really tired of this and I think while school might be the trigger this time, I don't think that I would be free of these depression swings if I wasn't in school, I would just have some other thing to stress about.  The worst part is I'm letting a whole bunch of people down with my behavior and I can't seem to stop it and I can't talk to them about it. 
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: shosta on August 09, 2019, 02:04:26 PM
Just quit and enjoy the good life making six figs in the private sector.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on August 09, 2019, 04:58:56 PM
Hang in there, Arv. Get high and do some carvings, those were really cool
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 11, 2019, 10:18:27 AM
Skipping out on a friends birthday party today just because I'm so mentally drained.   Wanted to go too. 
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: thisismyusername on August 13, 2019, 12:35:59 AM
why the fuck is seemingly everyone on this forum depressed :doge

1) No money
2) No job prospects
Etc.

It's typical millennial (which most of this board is, with a few older farts that are GenX).

Since I've posted about it here in the past: I've gone off meds despite being prescribed them. I've been off them for a month or two now and... I don't feel any better or worse. In fact, my depression has been more or less the same, as it was before I started the two-year attempt on meds. The only "benefit" now is that I can actually fucking cry and feel something when the depression hits instead of it damming up until a crack in said dam happens and I start to cry.

I'd rather get these random bursts into crying than the prolongness, tbh.

And in any case: I do have a possible job offer, but given it's been two weeks since the interview, and they said they were still interviewing I'm going to be REALLY FUCKING ANGRY and sad if I get passed over on this since this job is something I've been looking for and really want.

In any case, my vacation is over tonight, so I should get to bed and then go to work tomorrow. Thing is: I hate my boss, like HATE. She micromanages EVERYTHING and gets on my case, and then turns around and does bullshit that she claims I shouldn't do (talks to coworkers when nobody is in the location, for instance) and it drives me up the fucking wall. Which is part of the reason I've been looking elsewhere.

But being discriminated against for absolutely no reason than asking for accommodations is infuriating and really demoralizing and it's basically caused me to waste a year on not actually looking elsewhere. Which is part of the reason why I'm holding out hope for this offer.

As it is, I can reach out to folks I used to talk to and then they never reply back. Which is... fucking awful. I can be there 24/7 for people, but none of these sumbitches are there when I need them to be.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Transhuman on August 13, 2019, 12:47:51 AM
No money? Who needs money, man, :pimp
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Trent Dole on August 13, 2019, 03:27:45 AM
Bill collectors for one. :gloomy
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on August 13, 2019, 09:31:13 AM
Money doesn't solve all your problems, but it helps.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 16, 2019, 05:03:17 PM
Friends came to my apt and I ignored the buzzer because I can't really deal with people right now.  Shameful. 
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: toku on August 16, 2019, 06:38:45 PM
It frees up mental space to think about and be about other things.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Don Rumata on August 16, 2019, 07:35:50 PM
80% of my life's problems could be solved (or improved significantly) with money.
I guess if i lived alone and I was my only responsibility, it'd stress me out less, but the reasoning would still apply i think.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: thisismyusername on August 16, 2019, 07:51:01 PM
I guess if i lived alone and I was my only responsibility, it'd stress me out less, but the reasoning would still apply i think.

Defintely applies in my case. SINK, but get paid like shit. And try as I might, doors slam in my face repeatedly.

It's crazy I haven't ate a bullet yet, especially at my age.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: toku on August 16, 2019, 08:42:17 PM
all is mind as they say

I guess if i lived alone and I was my only responsibility, it'd stress me out less, but the reasoning would still apply i think.

Defintely applies in my case. SINK, but get paid like shit. And try as I might, doors slam in my face repeatedly.

It's crazy I haven't ate a bullet yet, especially at my age.

You can't do it until Respawn implodes and you get to say something hurtful about Titanfall.  :-*

spoiler (click to show/hide)
In all seriousness I have to believe that man is more than his circumstances and has the ability to reach higher. I'm not ready to give up and I hope you're far from that point as well. Bless up.
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Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Don Rumata on August 16, 2019, 08:46:33 PM
Give someone with poor mental health money and they might create themselves more problems from it. 

I know, cliche, but seen it happen.
Maybe i'm misinterpreting what we're talking about when we say "poor mental health", and every situation is different, so of course it's a case by case thing, but many cases of people being "depressed" is mostly a lack of future prospects (real or perceived) and more often than not, financial stress is a large part of that.

Also when i say "money" i'm not referring to winning the lottery either, just an amount that would make someone live comfortably, or at least not pay check to pay check.

When you're laying the tracks in front of the running train, it's just hard to imagine a way out of the hole.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: thisismyusername on August 16, 2019, 09:56:21 PM
Please, Bernie, you have an election to win!

Don't worry (https://www.reddit.com/r/ChapoTrapHouse/comments/co2ked/if_any_of_you_ever_feel_suicidal_just_remember/).
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 27, 2019, 04:11:13 PM
I don't remember if I posted this but I'm starting to think that this isn't a regular depression issue - I've really had a major break down - and I'm not doing good at all to be honest.

Had to submit a phd candidacy extension form today.  The grad chair is also on my phd committee anyway the form the had a mistake on it (done by my supervisor), so I get an email back asking about it.  I've basically been hiding from my committee for a year and especially the last few months, so this was not the way I wanted to interact with him again.  Anytime I have to do an admin thing my anxiety just kicks into high gear and I just feel mentally drained - which is incredibly silly because I realize this is a minor thing that is easily solvable. 
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on August 27, 2019, 07:53:40 PM
I know this is cold comfort but anxiety and depression have no logic.
Also, a friend recently taught me to try to not put on comparative stuff. For example I had some anxiety a few weeks back over something sorta minor and I was really hard on myself saying "This is nothing compared to last year, I should be able to handle this" And my friend had to come in and remind me I practically almost died last year and that's not a healthy comparison, you're not supposed to almost die. Comparisons only exist to guilt you and that just makes things worse. It's hard, I know. But try not to compare situations. The only situation that matters is your current one.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 27, 2019, 11:31:22 PM
Thanks.

I was talking yo a friend tonight that got his phd a while ago and he was talking about how these issues don't leave you after finishing.  Like all your self worth is tied into your research and it never changes.   really scared me. 
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on September 11, 2019, 01:33:35 PM
:stahp life being very hard again
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: VomKriege on September 11, 2019, 01:45:38 PM
:stahp life being very hard again

Sending good vibes.
Also fartung in the process. That's how serious I'm concentrating.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on September 11, 2019, 02:59:00 PM
You know how in old pc games you have the fog of war and you and slowly uncover the map bit by bit?

This year has been like that, except for me the fog is depression. Somehow, due to a mix of therapy and other things, I've started to become a bit more positive in my outlook in life. I've been able to re-engage in my hobbies, work on my social anxiety, while also planning for the future. It's been a really, really good year.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: chronovore on September 11, 2019, 10:34:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6hsP7co3ZA
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on September 13, 2019, 12:32:26 AM
:stahp life being very hard again

feeling way better than when I made this post, kinda wrapped my head around the difficulties 
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on September 13, 2019, 12:46:19 AM
Really glad to hear it. :heartbeat
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on November 11, 2019, 09:28:21 AM
If you ramp down the abrasiveness of your forum personality, I'm sure you'd have people take you up on that offer. You're clearly curious and knowledgeable about several interesting topics.

I'm glad you feel less lonely lately.

(https://i.imgur.com/aNQxalJ.gif)
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: chronovore on November 13, 2019, 04:27:37 AM
If you ramp down the abrasiveness of your forum personality, [...]

or maybe just use firefox like the rest of us :camby

obvious defense mechanism is obvious
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: shosta on November 13, 2019, 05:10:04 AM
i was thinking about PMing some folks here that i think are interesting to talk to and be like LETS BE FWENDS
you've never PM'd anyone here? Lol. My inbox is literally like 2% away from being full.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Transhuman on November 13, 2019, 05:19:31 AM
I think Blame Space's must be full because he never replies to my PMs
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on November 13, 2019, 08:04:21 AM
If you ramp down the abrasiveness of your forum personality, [...]

or maybe just use firefox like the rest of us :camby

I'm just giving you actionable things to do to improve your situation. Either take the advice or don't. :trumps

And I use Firefox quite a bit, just not as a default browser.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on December 05, 2019, 11:35:04 PM
Woke up from a nap and immediately started crying like a bitch, which is new.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Transhuman on December 05, 2019, 11:48:48 PM
I usually cry before sleep not after
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on March 04, 2020, 09:42:17 PM
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Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: shosta on March 04, 2020, 09:45:15 PM
Cindi please call a suicide helpline and know that a lot of people here love you. You are not thinking right. You have a future worth living, you just can't see it right now.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Transhuman on March 04, 2020, 09:46:48 PM
Joe Biden could have a brain aneurysm tomorrow Cindi, and then think how dumb you'd feel
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: El Babua on March 04, 2020, 09:48:24 PM
Please don't Cindi
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: G The Resurrected on March 04, 2020, 09:51:43 PM
Cinidi I know things in the world aren't so great. It can get better, It has too.

Hotline
1-800-273-8255

PM/DM's are open don't feel like you are alone in this world, we are all in it together suffering through life in a multitude of different ways. I care about you boo!
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: TVC15 on March 04, 2020, 09:51:48 PM
Please reconsider and talk to someone you’re comfortable with, Cindi. I like you so much that I gave up clowning on you years ago. Who else have I done that for? Really!

My messages are open, too.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: G The Resurrected on March 04, 2020, 09:53:53 PM
Please reconsider and talk to someone, Cindi. I like you so much that I gave up clowning on you years ago. Who else have I done that for? Really!

Seriously!

Cindi we all care about you, and without you things would suck more.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: benjipwns on March 04, 2020, 09:56:39 PM
Nope. Not yet. Don't let the smarmy Yuropeans (and timu, especially him) be right about you never going anywhere but Mexico. :karen
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 04, 2020, 09:57:18 PM
TALK TO SOMEBODY IN REAL LIFE ABOUT HOW YOU'RE FEELING

NOT ON THE INTERNET, AN ACTUAL PERSON
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: TVC15 on March 04, 2020, 10:10:18 PM
Has anyone heard from her? Should we contact authorities and do we have enough info?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: G The Resurrected on March 04, 2020, 10:18:54 PM
I wish there was more love and compassion in this world for those who are suffering through life. There's too much pain out there in the world and not enough love.

Cindi we Love you and this pain you have it doesn't have to be yours alone. Talk to us and let us take some of that pain for you.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 04, 2020, 10:36:08 PM
Please don't  :(
You matter to us  :heartbeat
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on March 04, 2020, 10:37:34 PM
Thanks for all the messages and love. Mupepe and I talked. I have looked at every variable for the future, and suicide has been the top option. Currently on the phone with a suicide hotline.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 04, 2020, 10:40:01 PM
bless up, sis
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: BisMarckie on March 04, 2020, 10:47:51 PM
Thanks for all the messages and love. Mupepe and I talked. I have looked at every variable for the future, and suicide has been the top option. Currently on the phone with a suicide hotline.

We haven’t interacted very much on this board, but I appreciate your idealism and your sense of humor in your posts. I am sure you will pull through this.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Akala on March 04, 2020, 10:53:29 PM
At least try France.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: G The Resurrected on March 04, 2020, 11:00:57 PM
We love you Boo!  :heartbeat

Don't ever think you in this alone. You got people here who care and love you. I hope you feel it, I want you to feel that love!

Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on March 04, 2020, 11:04:00 PM
Honestly the discussion with the hotline hasn't been helpful.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: shosta on March 04, 2020, 11:11:16 PM
Do you feel like you need to be put under monitoring? My friend just got out of semi-institutionalization for a month-ish and it stopped him from killing himself and gave him just enough breathing space to figure out what to do next.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: thisismyusername on March 04, 2020, 11:11:44 PM
Honestly the discussion with the hotline hasn't been helpful.

I mean, the best they're going to do is "you have so much to live for!" and probably call a psych ward to have you check in. That's kind-of their job to do. They don't know you personally so giving deep-reaching advice probably isn't in their M.O. to do.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on March 04, 2020, 11:12:49 PM
I don't think I should be monitored. Honestly the thing that made me reconsider is the fact my dad needs me with his health problems. Tomorrow I pick him up at 6:30 AM for a surgery. It would awful if I couldn't make it because I was dead.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on March 04, 2020, 11:19:52 PM
I feel better now. Often ideation comes in waves. This was very, very strong. Often when I have ideation I grit my teeth and bare with it because I know the urge will be over soon. But this urge was so strong, ya'll. :stahp
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: G The Resurrected on March 04, 2020, 11:22:28 PM
Do you feel added stress and responsibility for taking care of your father? I know how hard that can be on some folks, especially those that have difficulties of their own. Have you looked into getting some assistance in helping ease some of those responsibilities? Thus giving you a break.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on March 04, 2020, 11:28:05 PM
No I don't feel pressured from it. I feel pressured from the fact there's no future. For our country, humanity, or our planet. Actually the planet will be ok.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on March 04, 2020, 11:30:09 PM
Goddamit the radio is playing Landslide. You mother fuckers.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: benjipwns on March 04, 2020, 11:31:22 PM
Those aren't your burdens. You said it yourself earlier in the discussion with Glenda, just do what you can.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on March 04, 2020, 11:36:17 PM
Those aren't your burdens. You said it yourself earlier in the discussion with Glenda, just do what you can.

I can't afford mental healthcare for now which I desperately need. Currently pulling myself up from my bootstraps and trying to work 2 jobs to afford it. The country and society we livr in are sick. I'm sick and tired of it. I'm so desperate for care now that earlier when we were joking trump should run on m4a against Biden that I actually humored the thought of voting for Trump to get it. I'm desperate.

Suggest poditive star trek episodes for me to watch while I drink tonight. I bought two more Modelo 40's.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: benjipwns on March 04, 2020, 11:39:20 PM
TNG's "Disaster", "Clues", "Deja Q", I find "Tapestry" to be positive but you might not
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: G The Resurrected on March 04, 2020, 11:47:57 PM
I get that feeling too Cindi, but one day it's gonna start moving in the right direction. It might have to get a bit worse before it starts to peak and go the other direction, but it will start to get better. For the time being though you can only do what you can do. Those burdens are not yours alone, but all of ours. If there is something you can do and be an active part of it do it! Any action is better than no action when it comes to the problems you are concerned with, they are worth fighting for.

I find unplugging from a bit from it all can be super helpful in reducing the stress of those burdens. Have you tried anything like that?

Texas right? What is it about the mental health services there that you can't get access to?

TNG: Elementary, Dear Data; Ship in a Bottle
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: thisismyusername on March 04, 2020, 11:48:35 PM
Check to see if either of your jobs has an "Employee Assistance Program" where they give you like 4-8 free sessions with a councilor. Tell them to recommend you to a psychologist/mental health facility that will prescribe the meds. Depending on your job and the insurance (you have it, right?) you should be able to get meds for cheap if you explain your situation/pay/etc.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on March 04, 2020, 11:52:21 PM
And then things are decided by some bum fuck state like SC

Jesus Christ thankfully I have booze on me.

Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on March 04, 2020, 11:57:11 PM
Check to see if either of your jobs has an "Employee Assistance Program" where they give you like 4-8 free sessions with a councilor. Tell them to recommend you to a psychologist/mental health facility that will prescribe the meds. Depending on your job and the insurance (you have it, right?) you should be able to get meds for cheap if you explain your situation/pay/etc.

Extremely helpful post. Thank you.


I can't afford mental healthcare for now which I desperately need.

Check PMs. I wanna help.

Thank you.

I get that feeling too Cindi, but one day it's gonna start moving in the right direction. It might have to get a bit worse before it starts to peak and go the other direction, but it will start to get better. For the time being though you can only do what you can do. Those burdens are not yours alone, but all of ours. If there is something you can do and be an active part of it do it! Any action is better than no action when it comes to the problems you are concerned with, they are worth fighting for.

I find unplugging from a bit from it all can be super helpful in reducing the stress of those burdens. Have you tried anything like that?

Texas right? What is it about the mental health services there that you can't get access to?

TNG: Elementary, Dear Data; Ship in a Bottle

Yeah I think I'll unplug for a week.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: benjipwns on March 04, 2020, 11:58:52 PM
Regarding prescriptions there are a variety of discount networks you can join, GoodRx is a fairly large one, SingleCare is another. You can pretty much just search for them and sign up for a whole bunch for free, they send you cards or give you codes, you just give these to the pharmacist and they'll see if they accept them or not then apply the best one. Some like Kroger or whatever have their own plans (it's technically part of GoodRx), you sometimes have to pay a little, like a few bucks a month but you can get like 90+% off the prescriptions so it works out. Sometimes it's actually cheaper than a co-pay on insurance can be.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on March 05, 2020, 12:06:49 AM
I have been to Legacy and didn't realize they offered mental health services.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: benjipwns on March 05, 2020, 12:34:57 AM
Another thing to keep in mind with doctors, it's easy but can be forgettable, is let them know your situation financially/insurance/etc. wise and many can be flexible. There's a cost built in for them to work with insurance that they'll often work with patients who can only pay "cash" on a discount because it's simpler to do in terms of paperwork.

Not saying there aren't doctors who want the most money and will set up barriers, but it's like anything, there's ones who just want to help ya out and will accommodate you. Especially if you're not a problem patient in the meaning of causing headaches on stuff.

This can also help when it comes prescription time if need be, they'll often know the general cost of drugs and will look for generics and cheaper ones to try first. Sometimes that might not work out but if you take the time to explain that it's too costly for you there are often similar ones they might be able to switch you to.

I don't want to pretend there aren't burdens, especially financially, but for a lot of routine care there are a number of ways to help keep costs reasonable. To use myself as an example, and I know I've been blessed situation-wise, but I don't have insurance for drugs (or much at all regarding mental health actually) and with these various steps and those discount networks the costs have been only like $30-35 a month. I know not everyone can afford that or it can sometimes be tight but I myself thought it more daunting that it turned out to be for me after I started poking around just a little bit.

If it feels too daunting looking at things you can always just step back a bit and plus, as Esch has already done, you can always ask us to help look up stuff. I know until I started looking I didn't really comprehend how many options there are for someone like me, and I don't even live in a big ol city let alone a megalopolis.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on March 05, 2020, 01:04:55 AM
TNG - Disaster really soothed my heart. Thanks Benji.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: eleuin on March 05, 2020, 01:32:20 AM
another sliding scale option

https://openpathcollective.org/
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on March 05, 2020, 01:53:55 AM
another sliding scale option

https://openpathcollective.org/

Found two therapists very close by and inexpensive. Thank you very much.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on March 05, 2020, 02:04:28 AM
love you cindi   :heart

one of my twitter brehs had to get help for his kid tonight

https://twitter.com/MidgetTamer/status/1235416202035507200

I love all of you  :tocry
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Potato on March 05, 2020, 04:50:57 AM
Hey Cindi, there isn't much I can do for you from the other side of the world, but I would certainly miss you if you were to do yourself any harm. Please reach out if you need someone to listen.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Yeti on March 05, 2020, 08:49:00 AM
We’ve survived nearly four years of Trump, we can survive four more if comes down to it. It’s a terribly cliche saying, but I hope you can find the serenity to accept the things you can’t change, the courage to change the things you can, and the wisdom to know the difference. I think you are good on those last two, but you seem to really be struggling with finding serenity to accept things you can’t change. With politics you can only do so much because everyone can have a say, and some people get to have a bigger say than others. But politics is just a part of life, there is so much more out there than politics
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on March 05, 2020, 09:32:22 AM
Really glad to see you pushing through those thoughts and urges, Cindi. I struggled to come up to a reply to this yesterday, I was glad to see others stepping up. I felt an amount of guilt for bringing up suicide as a way out of this shit in the politics thread. I also just didn’t know what to say because I had very similar plans yesterday morning. Been feeling very out of control. Was thinking I’d hang myself at work before anyone go there, there’s a spot where I could do a real drop hanging. Instead I wrote an “im taking a mental health day” email from my work desk and reset the alarms and left. Then I researched and got a debt transfer loan dealio that’s going to make it so I can survive even if my ex completely stiffs me. For me the thoughts come at hard times, but I’m getting a lot better at taking a positive action instead. Sending all my love
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: bork on March 05, 2020, 12:27:19 PM
Very glad you're doing OK, Cindi.  Hope that Euro trip is awesome!
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: bork on March 05, 2020, 12:40:52 PM
Really glad to see you pushing through those thoughts and urges, Cindi. I struggled to come up to a reply to this yesterday, I was glad to see others stepping up. I felt an amount of guilt for bringing up suicide as a way out of this shit in the politics thread. I also just didn’t know what to say because I had very similar plans yesterday morning. Been feeling very out of control. Was thinking I’d hang myself at work before anyone go there, there’s a spot where I could do a real drop hanging. Instead I wrote an “im taking a mental health day” email from my work desk and reset the alarms and left. Then I researched and got a debt transfer loan dealio that’s going to make it so I can survive even if my ex completely stiffs me. For me the thoughts come at hard times, but I’m getting a lot better at taking a positive action instead. Sending all my love

Cats, so glad you're doing better today, too!  :)
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on March 05, 2020, 12:42:37 PM
Really glad to see you pushing through those thoughts and urges, Cindi. I struggled to come up to a reply to this yesterday, I was glad to see others stepping up. I felt an amount of guilt for bringing up suicide as a way out of this shit in the politics thread. I also just didn’t know what to say because I had very similar plans yesterday morning. Been feeling very out of control. Was thinking I’d hang myself at work before anyone go there, there’s a spot where I could do a real drop hanging. Instead I wrote an “im taking a mental health day” email from my work desk and reset the alarms and left. Then I researched and got a debt transfer loan dealio that’s going to make it so I can survive even if my ex completely stiffs me. For me the thoughts come at hard times, but I’m getting a lot better at taking a positive action instead. Sending all my love

I feel you. We both need to get better.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on March 05, 2020, 02:26:03 PM
I can say this, life does not get better. You get better. You get better at focusing on the things you enjoy, the things that you have, the people you care about, breathing. From there you can make improvements much easier and handle life better when plans don't work out, or anything else goes wrong.

Waiting for life to get better never worked out until I made myself better.

the things going on in my life are worse now than when I used to think about ending my life every day. if I look at things "objectively" I should be completely miserable. Instead I find it's pretty incredible I can drive to the beach, sprint to the water and jump into the waves. Hit up a taco truck for a delicious burrito on the cheap and maybe grab a coffee if I need to warm up. I get to take care of my mother and make sure she has it better than if I wasn't here.

It's not always easy and most likely never will be. I'm not doing everything I could be doing to improve my own life right now, but I'm also not thinking about ending myself every day. So overall I'll take that win and continue making slow progress on the things outside of my self. Inshallah  :)
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: BisMarckie on March 05, 2020, 02:28:34 PM
:tocry

bless up
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on March 05, 2020, 02:49:00 PM
I can say this, life does not get better. You get better. You get better at focusing on the things you enjoy, the things that you have, the people you care about, breathing. From there you can make improvements much easier and handle life better when plans don't work out, or anything else goes wrong.

Waiting for life to get better never worked out until I made myself better.

the things going on in my life are worse now than when I used to think about ending my life every day. if I look at things "objectively" I should be completely miserable. Instead I find it's pretty incredible I can drive to the beach, sprint to the water and jump into the waves. Hit up a taco truck for a delicious burrito on the cheap and maybe grab a coffee if I need to warm up. I get to take care of my mother and make sure she has it better than if I wasn't here.

It's not always easy and most likely never will be. I'm not doing everything I could be doing to improve my own life right now, but I'm also not thinking about ending myself every day. So overall I'll take that win and continue making slow progress on the things outside of my self. Inshallah  :)


Maybe you wouldn't need to warm up if you weren't jumping into the ocean when it's cold outside smh
this is true, but I found that if I am always waiting for the weather to be right , then I rarely get in the water. so I started going in anytime I was near a beach, even keep swimming shorts in my car so I'm always ready  8)
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on March 05, 2020, 02:51:31 PM
I can say this, life does not get better. You get better. You get better at focusing on the things you enjoy, the things that you have, the people you care about, breathing. From there you can make improvements much easier and handle life better when plans don't work out, or anything else goes wrong.

Waiting for life to get better never worked out until I made myself better.

the things going on in my life are worse now than when I used to think about ending my life every day. if I look at things "objectively" I should be completely miserable. Instead I find it's pretty incredible I can drive to the beach, sprint to the water and jump into the waves. Hit up a taco truck for a delicious burrito on the cheap and maybe grab a coffee if I need to warm up. I get to take care of my mother and make sure she has it better than if I wasn't here.

It's not always easy and most likely never will be. I'm not doing everything I could be doing to improve my own life right now, but I'm also not thinking about ending myself every day. So overall I'll take that win and continue making slow progress on the things outside of my self. Inshallah  :)

Very inspiring
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on March 05, 2020, 05:35:29 PM
Life does not get better. You get better.

Newsfeed that filler wisdom
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Yeti on March 05, 2020, 06:58:40 PM
When your Borito buddies let their mask slip to show genuine empathy  :tocry

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My iPhone autocorrect tried to change “Borito” to “abortion”   >:(
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Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: BisMarckie on March 05, 2020, 07:08:04 PM
When your Borito buddies let their mask slip to show genuine empathy  :tocry

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Even with all the shitposting and being labeled as a hate site, I have never been part of a more supportive community.

Thank you brehs :tocry
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: toku on March 05, 2020, 07:09:06 PM
I can say this, life does not get better. You get better. You get better at focusing on the things you enjoy, the things that you have, the people you care about, breathing. From there you can make improvements much easier and handle life better when plans don't work out, or anything else goes wrong.

Waiting for life to get better never worked out until I made myself better.

the things going on in my life are worse now than when I used to think about ending my life every day. if I look at things "objectively" I should be completely miserable. Instead I find it's pretty incredible I can drive to the beach, sprint to the water and jump into the waves. Hit up a taco truck for a delicious burrito on the cheap and maybe grab a coffee if I need to warm up. I get to take care of my mother and make sure she has it better than if I wasn't here.

It's not always easy and most likely never will be. I'm not doing everything I could be doing to improve my own life right now, but I'm also not thinking about ending myself every day. So overall I'll take that win and continue making slow progress on the things outside of my self. Inshallah  :)

(https://i.imgur.com/NDX3leT.gif)
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: TVC15 on March 05, 2020, 08:31:05 PM
I can say this, life does not get better. You get better. You get better at focusing on the things you enjoy, the things that you have, the people you care about, breathing. From there you can make improvements much easier and handle life better when plans don't work out, or anything else goes wrong.

Waiting for life to get better never worked out until I made myself better.

the things going on in my life are worse now than when I used to think about ending my life every day. if I look at things "objectively" I should be completely miserable. Instead I find it's pretty incredible I can drive to the beach, sprint to the water and jump into the waves. Hit up a taco truck for a delicious burrito on the cheap and maybe grab a coffee if I need to warm up. I get to take care of my mother and make sure she has it better than if I wasn't here.

It's not always easy and most likely never will be. I'm not doing everything I could be doing to improve my own life right now, but I'm also not thinking about ending myself every day. So overall I'll take that win and continue making slow progress on the things outside of my self. Inshallah  :)

lol Cindi got filler to put effort into a post. Mission accomplished, Cindi!
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on March 05, 2020, 08:36:20 PM
Spencer how are you doing today
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on March 06, 2020, 07:12:40 AM
Still putting one foot in front of the other, how bout you?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on March 09, 2020, 02:18:40 AM
I had a really good weekend. It was sunny all weekend and I felt much better. It was cloudy all damn month. I'm convinced it was vitamin D related.

Keep at it cat
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: bluemax on March 09, 2020, 10:18:44 PM
Upped my med dosage back to the prescribed amount. I wasn't doing the full amount for awhile because I thought maybe the different meds had been interfering with my ability to achieve orgasm, and I was dating someone and things were going well. Things have not been going well since that ended, and every set back kind of makes me tailspin and frankly I'm a bit sick of it. I hope at some point I can get back to where I can manage on a lower dosage again, but I don't think that is going to be for awhile.

It sucks, 2020 was looking so bright for me and it has mostly just been awful and it is all self inflicted.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: TVC15 on March 09, 2020, 11:42:54 PM
Considering going back on a med due to all the corona-related stress lately since it’s going to be an indefinite thing but I’m afraid I’ll end up sleeping all day and getting in trouble.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on March 10, 2020, 12:08:29 AM
I can say this, life does not get better. You get better. You get better at focusing on the things you enjoy, the things that you have, the people you care about, breathing. From there you can make improvements much easier and handle life better when plans don't work out, or anything else goes wrong.

Waiting for life to get better never worked out until I made myself better.

the things going on in my life are worse now than when I used to think about ending my life every day. if I look at things "objectively" I should be completely miserable. Instead I find it's pretty incredible I can drive to the beach, sprint to the water and jump into the waves. Hit up a taco truck for a delicious burrito on the cheap and maybe grab a coffee if I need to warm up. I get to take care of my mother and make sure she has it better than if I wasn't here.

It's not always easy and most likely never will be. I'm not doing everything I could be doing to improve my own life right now, but I'm also not thinking about ending myself every day. So overall I'll take that win and continue making slow progress on the things outside of my self. Inshallah  :)

lol Cindi got filler to put effort into a post. Mission accomplished, Cindi!
allah's love is effortless, brother. walking in his love only requires we take weight off, not take on more  :rejoice
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: thisismyusername on March 10, 2020, 07:04:06 AM
Talking to people reminds me that I just really hate people.

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Don't get me wrong, Grindr talk is cute as fuck but there's other shit in addition that is souring me on talking to people
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Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: TVC15 on March 10, 2020, 11:34:24 AM
I feel like I need to take a break from here, but I’m worried I’m just isolating myself more

Edit: yeah, I need to do something about my low self-worth and how much I don’t like myself. I love you guys, but I think I shouldn’t be around here if I want to try to work on this. I’m sure I’ll fail and be back, but I guess I should try while I feel like I can.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on March 20, 2020, 03:17:21 AM
 :shaking
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on March 20, 2020, 03:17:42 AM
scared, brehs
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: shosta on March 20, 2020, 03:23:41 AM
Everything's going to be fine, filler. Shut the news off for a bit and take care of yourself.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on March 20, 2020, 03:39:37 AM
I've been eating take out and avoiding supermarkets so I don't risk being around people and bringing this shid home with me :doge now I'm being forced to go to the grocery store with everyone else packed together and there's no guarantee there will be anything to buy  :thinking
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on March 20, 2020, 04:00:01 AM
Yeah it sucks. But we'll make it. Just one foot in front of the other. That's all we can do.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on March 20, 2020, 04:18:03 AM
never had the government tell me I can't go outside, that's scary enough on its own  :doge
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: thisismyusername on March 20, 2020, 04:46:12 AM
never had the government tell me I can't go outside, that's scary enough on its own  :doge

I mean, technically you can. They can't stop you, unless they shoot you (which would be... very... fascist). The only thing they can do is gently (but firmly) suggest you stay home. You're in California, right? Things are popping off there, so it's understandable they'd want you to be cooped up in the apartment/house.

Do you have a balcony or something? Apparently going on walks in the daytime or just sitting outside supposedly helps with mental health. I don't know if I buy it, but maybe take a book (remember those?) or something that isn't going to be blindingly bright outside (or find some shade maybe) and sit there for like 5-15 minutes. If you aren't in shade and can get some light on you, the Vitamin D ... dick joke here... is supposed to help with mental health. Supposedly, I'm not a scientist or psychologist. I just play one on the internet.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on March 20, 2020, 05:42:18 AM
I've just accepted life is going to be fucked for a while and it does suck for the time being. hoping I can find food when I get into the super market in the morning  :corona_mj
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: thisismyusername on March 20, 2020, 05:45:35 AM
I'm sure you will, dude. While you're out, maybe go to a bookstore. Find some fiction (even if it's trash fiction) to read if you're not working/etc. Maybe get a book for exercises? I dunno your interests, but surely they have one. Provided a bookstore is open, of course. Given all the shutdowns, I don't know. Maybe buy it off Kindle but it'd ruin the "go read outside on your balcony and smoke/etc." vibe I'm trying to go for.

(Well maybe not smoke due to higher risks from the virus, but you get what I mean)

Basically don't let being cooped up bother you so much. Now's a good time as any to focus on yourself and your entertainment (that isn't sex, of course?) or enjoyment and hobbies/etc improvements.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 20, 2020, 04:15:16 PM
scared, brehs

Gonna be rough on the mind for lots of people the next while.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Nintex on March 20, 2020, 05:23:09 PM
Oh hey thanks for reaching out I'm hoarding toilet paper right now and I don't have the capacity to help you.
Is there someone else you can reach out to?

Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Potato on March 21, 2020, 01:32:01 AM
If anyone wants to vent or chat or get anything off their chest and doesn't want to do it in public, send me a PM. I'm happy to listen, offer some advice or just shoot the shit to ease your mind a little. I can't give you any advice on how to deal with mental health issues, but think of me as a shoulder to lean on. Unload your burden, my shoulders are broad.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on May 04, 2020, 12:07:12 AM
I kinda feel the same way sometimes about the pandemic. And yeah, barely chipping away at that wall in a cave, hoping that someday one of your strikes breaks open a sunny exit, definitely can feel like a huge weight and make you avoid thinking about the future.

Have you tried melatonin for sleep issues? Thinking about it you've probably tried lot's of things... just came to mind since melatonin gummies were prescribed for my niece for a period of time, and seemed to do OK.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on May 04, 2020, 12:25:09 AM
I hate to post this on the heels of Wrath's post, but I wanted to say I feel like something's changed inside my mind this year.

A year ago, living with my parents, being unemployed, and having no car... it felt like I was at the bottom of the ocean. In fact I kept going back to the image of Angel trapped there at the end of season three.

Summary: the vampire Angel is tied up and thrown in a coffin, which is dumped at the bottom of the Atlantic. Immortal due to his vampirism, Angel won't die from lack of oxygen, so it was essentially eternal solitary confinement.

"Angel got what he deserved."

I also thought a lot about Wesley's response, "We all get what we deserve." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a9vKroNzAE)

I bring up the TV show Angel because it's part of what's helped me. It's entry-level Philosophy 101 stuff, but the themes of existentialism really resonated with me when I started putting it in terms of my own life.

"If nothing we do matters, then the only thing that matters is what we do."

It feels like I've had a very long, shitty hangover from theism. Even though I felt like doing good things was worth it, that started taking a backseat in my personality the longer time went on. Being in Boston in particular, flush with cash, hitting bars every other night... I had a pretty serious drinking problem that I was doing everything possible to avoid confronting. It's such a terrible cliche I can barely bring myself to type it, but I had a missing piece I was trying to fill.

And the flip that switched when I went "Oh, God's not watching me every moment?" It started this insidious idea in my head that I could act publicly one way, and privately another, and it would all be cool since the only part I cared about people knowing was the public part.

But that's never really the case. The human brain is not a computer where you can just pop in a new hard drive and keep shit separate. The shitty thoughts you have in private will eventually corrupt your soul, whether God exists or not. I spent way too much mental energy hating people I thought wronged me, even though on reflection in most of those situations the problem was me.

Put another way:

(https://i.imgur.com/eEpF0m2.gif)

Even if I think I'm a good person, if I deliberately choose to avoid doing the right thing because it's hard or I'm worried about myself, then I'm not a good person. It's easy to type here but so much goddamn harder to internalize in your day-to-day life. I'm still struggling with making what should be easy decisions -- apologizing to someone when I'm in the wrong, or offering to help even though I'm feeling extremely lazy. Real life doesn't have dramatic superhero moments (pardon the GIF) but every day will present new choices, and complaining that you're forced to make a choice is the wrong attitude to take. And that's basically how I thought throughout all of 2019.

Combined with my decision to abandon coding for a living forever, I feel like I have a purpose and drive that I haven't had in over 15 years. I feel like I'm making choices now, and that they're the right ones, instead of just being on autopilot.

And I'm still here, with the parents, with no car, with no job. But I've done a complete 180 in mindset from a year ago.








Uhhhh this turned out way longer than intended sorry lmao

Edit- Oh one more thing that changed me from being a pessimistic jerk who would lash out at people IRL to... someone who does that far less now, is realizing that my own decisions have led me here, and it needs to be my decisions to get me out.

More broadly, I realized the universe/society/God/Satan/whatever doesn't owe me shit. I don't deserve to be successful just because I think I should be.

This was really hammered home on Christmas, when the only thing I wanted was a new keyboard so I could resume learning to play. A 2-3 day depression and hurt feelings are what followed...

...I felt like a goddamn 8-year old. :lol That's when I knew I had to seriously grow the fuck up.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on May 04, 2020, 12:44:21 AM
What really helped me though was getting a dog. Highly recommended.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: toku on May 04, 2020, 09:45:06 AM
Attitude and you're state is everything. If you felt good and secure about yourself, confident in your abilities you'd also feel this way about your decisions. Way easier said than done, and everyone seems to learn the hard way unless you're buddha or something. Keep your will strong, forgive yourself always, and enjoy shit. All the work is in mind, bless up.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Transhuman on May 04, 2020, 10:39:16 AM
anyone have any experiences with anti-depressants

this year was gonna be great for me and i had all these plans but then you-know-what happened and now everything has to wait

but now would be a good time to try anti-depressants

i don't have much anxiety problems, just that i can hardly learn anything or focus on stuff

which in the grand scheme of things isn't so bad, but i'd like to be able to do stuff instead of just waste time

so i was wondering if anti-depressants can help with that

I was on SSRI'S (escitalopram) for only 5 days before I quit. It takes about a month to build up enough in the bloodstream to start working, but I was getting pretty much every side effect listed. My skin was freezing cold and clammy yet I was sweating, I was nauseous, my bones ached, and I could barely follow conversations because I was so out of it. I was on the lowest possible dosage of SSRI, and Ondasetron still didn't help with the nausea.

Now that I know what the side effects are like, i'm too scared to start taking them again. I guess i'm only qualified enough to give this one piece of advice: if you start taking them, don't stop until you get over the hump and they start working.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Transhuman on May 04, 2020, 03:57:20 PM
ffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuck

reading about those side effects makes me reconsider

i knew there were possible side effects but thats bad... altho i guess you seem to have had it pretty bad, other people seem to have only the side effect of not being able to orgasm anymore :doge

Yeah i'm super skinny so maybe it hit me even harder than it would a regular person. And I wasn't used to neurochemical changes back then either, I barely even drank.

Honestly one of the biggest regrets in my life is not keeping up with them because I wonder whether it would have been possible for me to be happy. Don't let me being a pussy stop you from taking them
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on May 12, 2020, 02:20:01 AM
Man it really sucks when you're feeling down or even lonely and you have no one to turn to. I try my best to always be there for people when they feel the same way, but it's my own fault in that I hate talking to anyone about my problems cause it always feels like I'm burdening them. I'm always listening to people, so I know it really isn't as people just need an outlet sometimes. I just can't bring myself to do it. Maybe it's due to oversharing in the past and having that backfire in my face but I've been conditioned to think that as soon as I vent about my problems whoever I'm venting to would start distancing themselves from now on. The mundane truth is that people get busy, something else takes their focus, or they start having their own issues to deal with and there isn't anything wrong with that. It's never really that personal. But my mind will always go there regardless of what the truth may be.

It's starting to get really tiring. I miss my ex and even regret turning her down last she texted me though I absolutely did the right thing in rejecting her, if only cause in spite of our relationship falling apart and the glaring flaws that were always there, she was always happy to listen and knew how to get me to open up and make me feel heard. And it went both ways, probably the only relationship and/or friendship where that never felt one sided. Hell, I'm sitting here thinking of hitting her up, knowing it'll either blow up in my face due to me rejecting her last time or fall right back into a co-dependent and parasitic relationship doomed to fail. I'm glad I typed this up if only cause it re-convinced me that I moved on and nothing good would come out of that.

But still, I'm fucking tired. Too bad saudi is shit for mental health, cause a therapist sounds like exactly the right thing for this hole I found myself in.

Life just sucks sometimes, I guess. Back to watching twitch streams.
:heart
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on May 14, 2020, 07:05:09 PM
So like, is there anyone out there whose actually happy right now? I feel like at best we're all getting by, but I'm definitely struggling with depression. I dislike my job more than ever right now and am trying to do everything I can to find stuff I enjoy to make up for all the negativity and shit from when I work each day.

Used to do that in general, but I'd go out and socialize and date and do fun things and it would make up for the mostly unhappy times during work hours. But now, idk. I try walks, drives, exercise, cooking, talking to people on dating sites, chatting with friends, now I'm trying writing, but none of it really is making me feel happy and fulfilled in life right now. Games/Movies/Books are fun but just time distracting things and then it's bed time again and then time to get up and slog through shitty work again and repeat until the weekend.

Would be nice to find something that is life motivating right now to feel good waking up in the morning and positive about each day.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Positive Touch on May 14, 2020, 07:16:27 PM
i didn't even clock in to work the last two days and i could not give less of a fuck. when the highlight of your day is choosing what game to play or show to watch things start to feel pretty grim.

it's good that you're getting out at least, and socializing. might be nice to take up a new hobby or project, just to have some goals.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 14, 2020, 07:18:11 PM
I'm not happy but I have gotten to the point where I'm at the same level of unhappiness pre-pandemic. 
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on May 14, 2020, 07:31:24 PM
I was on-and-off unemployed and living with my parents for the year going into COVID-19 lockdown, which I'm pretty sure reset my mind/social expectations cause I'm kinda thriving rn tbh. I feel like I have clear goals and I'm no longer locked into some long-determined destiny.

Dunno if there's going to be a world left for me to pursue those goals in, but I'm working under the assumption humanity will figure the big issues out (otherwise the ennui sets in.)
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Yeti on May 14, 2020, 07:40:35 PM
I had a couple of days over the weekend where I was in very sad depression but I’ve bounced back to my baseline of just feeling emotionally dead. I call it meh-xistence.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: shosta on May 14, 2020, 07:43:00 PM
crapathy
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: shosta on May 14, 2020, 07:44:58 PM
Yawnnui
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: toku on May 14, 2020, 09:05:59 PM
what now
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Trent Dole on May 14, 2020, 09:35:08 PM
Yeah, everyone is more down than usual right now. Just try not to live in a bottle or whatever all day. :-[
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on May 14, 2020, 11:25:10 PM
might be nice to take up a new hobby or project, just to have some goals.

Yeah I just don't know what haha, or how to find the time to do it...

I mean I took up cooking and drink mixology and trying to get back into game journalism. With stay home orders and limited stuff available by delivery (like for crafting and stuff), just kinda limited.

Learn I language I guess? But can't travel or use it for now....
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: bluemax on May 15, 2020, 12:07:24 AM
So I started trying Yoga with Adrienne, I first did her beginner video a bunch of times (she recommends repeating it until you're comfortable) and I've started on the 30 day series. Also at the behest of my therapist I've started trying guided meditations, because I struggled to do regular ones. It's still early in all of this, but honestly whenever I feel that tightening in my chest or acceleration of my heart from anxiety, I start doing some deep breathing and try clearing my head and it helps a ton. I'm not perfect, and last week I had a bunch of days where I had bad moments and didn't do any of this, but I'm trying to commit to it because I do notice the difference.

The other stupidly basic thing I did do while I was feeling down last week, was I would get up and move. Especially on the weekend. If looking at the internet was getting me down, I would shut my laptop, and just go to the kitchen and clean or go to my room and dust or something super simple. I also try to go somewhere close just outside my neighborhood in my car on the weekends. Just to remind myself there is a world beyond the area I usually walk my dog.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Clockwork5 on May 15, 2020, 01:44:02 AM
Life is really fucking me up right now. I’m lucky my partner is so supportive or else I would be edging towards despair. As it is, I just mildly freak out before bed for a while.

-moved (KC to NC) in November to live with girlfriend who had moved away for school a while back.
-mom gets brain cancer in December but they think they caught it quickly.
-because why not, I need two root canals in February
-get the first one done, waiting for crown.
-Corona
-dentist closed
-lost job
-moms brain cancer is going for the kill, year max with radiation and surgery.
-gotta move back to KC now because this might get ugly.
-still need that second fucking root canal, holy shit this sucks
-dentist closed
-fuck

That actually felt kinda good.


Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: shosta on May 15, 2020, 02:00:58 AM
bless up, my friend
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: BIONIC on May 15, 2020, 02:13:46 AM

But still, I'm fucking tired. Too bad saudi is shit for mental health, cause a therapist sounds like exactly the right thing for this hole I found myself in.

Life just sucks sometimes, I guess. Back to watching twitch streams.

There are legit proper online therapists (video calls) if you can cough up the dough ($150+ per session). So the option is there, and they can work around time zones as needed.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 15, 2020, 09:30:06 AM
So I started trying Yoga with Adrienne, I first did her beginner video a bunch of times (she recommends repeating it until you're comfortable) and I've started on the 30 day series. Also at the behest of my therapist I've started trying guided meditations, because I struggled to do regular ones. It's still early in all of this, but honestly whenever I feel that tightening in my chest or acceleration of my heart from anxiety, I start doing some deep breathing and try clearing my head and it helps a ton. I'm not perfect, and last week I had a bunch of days where I had bad moments and didn't do any of this, but I'm trying to commit to it because I do notice the difference.

The other stupidly basic thing I did do while I was feeling down last week, was I would get up and move. Especially on the weekend. If looking at the internet was getting me down, I would shut my laptop, and just go to the kitchen and clean or go to my room and dust or something super simple. I also try to go somewhere close just outside my neighborhood in my car on the weekends. Just to remind myself there is a world beyond the area I usually walk my dog.

I like yoga with Yoga with Adrienne
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on May 15, 2020, 11:00:49 AM
possible you may have cte from injury?  :-\
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 15, 2020, 11:22:47 AM
Yeah, I have often worried if my bouts of depression and such are related to the many head injuries I suffered as a child.. and adolescent.. and adult

Hang in there, riot, sendin love
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 15, 2020, 11:54:32 AM
Yeah, my list starts at 2 when I fall off the side of a stairwell, splitting my head open and then older brother stuff, sports stuff, the time I knocked myself out running into a slick wet garage :lol I also used to be a total spaz and hit myself sometimes, so :/

But yeah, I mean, one way or another we’re all turning to mush someday but yeah fuck I so feel dumber....


Decided getting dumber is a win, I wanted to be the nice old dumb hippy
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Transhuman on May 15, 2020, 12:11:58 PM
I used to hit my head against brick walls when I was 14-15 because I was convinced if I could hurt my brain enough to "dumb myself down" I'd be normal enough to be happy, but now I wonder if I wasn't just subconsciously looking for any reason to hurt myself.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on May 15, 2020, 02:08:06 PM
sorry, roit  :-\
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 15, 2020, 02:19:57 PM
I was looking for an email I sent earlier this week; and when I read it I noticed I used 2 completely wrong words.

Like I know what word I intended to type, and I'm not talking typos, just total word replacement with something that maybe phonetically is somewhat close.

In glancing at a few of my forum posts I'm doing it here too;  noticed "cleared" instead of "cured" for instance.

Something misfiring in my brain.

yaere is th brother.  Welcome to the cum.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: shosta on May 15, 2020, 02:35:39 PM
Get back with the Yemeni chick?

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not really. Thirst makes us do crazy things
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Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: toku on May 15, 2020, 02:42:41 PM
horny is an illusion
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on May 19, 2020, 04:26:25 PM
can you still like posts?  :heart
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Positive Touch on May 19, 2020, 04:26:33 PM
when that happens do they stick you in a psych ward or do you get to go home
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on May 19, 2020, 04:27:56 PM
overdosing and coronavirus hate him, breh is invincible  :doge
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: ToxicAdam on May 19, 2020, 05:12:27 PM
Vibes, when I’ve had my lows the thinking that always got me near suicidal was “I can’t live another  40+ years like this.” Because in that moment, it seemed like the way you are feeling is going to be forever. Like a hell you can’t escape.

But trust that it is not. It’s goes in waves and you’ll come out of this funk. The things you can’t appreciate now you will come to appreciate. Just hold on and ride it out. Your brain chemistry will shift as you get older and this dread and despair that constantly fucks with you will fade. You’ll also learn how to manage it better in the future.

Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 19, 2020, 05:36:13 PM
Only Joe Biden I’m happy to hear from itt
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: VomKriege on May 19, 2020, 05:41:28 PM
Must confess I don't read that thread often but a lot of people could do with any supplemental positive vibes.
Bless you all. It's just a trinket in the grand scheme of things but hopefully every little bit helps.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 19, 2020, 07:20:55 PM
Good to see you back, Joe.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: chronovore on May 20, 2020, 03:15:27 AM
Had my first encounter with anxiety attacks, stemming from a vicious cycle. Sorry, only registered users can see this content. Please Login or Register.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Clockwork5 on May 20, 2020, 09:16:21 PM
Had my first encounter with anxiety attacks, stemming from a vicious cycle. Sorry, only registered users can see this content. Please Login or Register.
I used to get anxiety attacks back in my twenties when I was constantly sure I was going to go broke. Mindfulness helped me so much. I really had to evaluate my relationship with anxiety and the thinking that goes along with it and then practice identifying, noting and letting go of the mental cycle.

I know that only vaguely makes a damn bit of sense but it has honestly changed my life. Now when I get anxious or acutely stressed I can settle myself down within moments just by counting my breath. Sounds dumb but again, this shit changed my life.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on May 20, 2020, 09:17:36 PM
 :heart
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: bluemax on May 20, 2020, 10:10:26 PM
Lavender candles were a fucking life saver when I experienced harsh panic attacks earlier this year. But I'll echo the mindfulness stuff, although I had to try different kinds of meditation to find one that didn't trigger PTSD and panic. I suggest guided ones over the pure breathing ones. I did a really corny visualization one as well, but it worked better than anything else I had done at that point and got me to being able to do other types. Also journaling has been a life saver, it's kind of my daily outlet for whatever has been building up in my head.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: bluemax on May 20, 2020, 10:53:21 PM
All that said... today has not been great. Grief sucks.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Cryo on May 21, 2020, 11:47:26 AM
bless up to everyone that posted in here and who hasn't but is still having a hard time in 2020.

I've been having a lot of trouble truly understanding that my body is separate from the world around it, and therefore should not shoulder the burdens and pains of said world, which makes for a crippling existence. decided to only give myself two goals to complete each day of this week and let any perceived notions of what I should be doing with my time pass by without judgement of myself, and I've been managing better as a result.

Gotta start small once again if that's what it takes, and there's really no better time to be doing this than lockdown.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: bluemax on May 21, 2020, 10:16:54 PM
Sorry bluemax; it truly does suck.

These methods for dealing with anxiety inspired me to at least think about going that route.  I'm not necessarily having panic attics (I have had a few in my life);  more just intense long-lasting anxiety that comes and goes.   

Really fighting against my own brain I feel;  all it wants to do is obsess over:
- Something that actually is stressful
- Creating stresses where there aren't really any
- The fact that I'm having these issues in the first place

The third one being sort of the vicious circle type deal where the fact that I've been in this anxious state for weeks is causing me more anxiety as I obsess over the idea that my brain is gonna be stuck like this.

I'm cutting back on caffeine for now;  wasn't really drinking insane amounts or anything but as this has been effecting me I've been so exhausted, and work has been incredibly busy.. so I did up my morning caffeine to get through my day.   

Am thinking maybe I should completely cut it out before talking to a doctor;  just sort of get it off the table so they can't cite it as a cause/contributor.

But alas; the idea of quitting caffeine... causes me major anxiety.

Really do appreciate y'all describing what has helped you in the past;  definitely what I need.  If I can avoid doctors I'm going to;  although I probably shouldn't at this point.   My issues tend to be cyclical so it's easy to wait for a healthy state and forget about all this but whatever is up with me is definitely getting worse.   The low cycle lower and much longer.

This is kind of the exact thing I've been going through. I told my therapist that I was having a lot of repeating thoughts, to the point where it was burying my ability to do anything. That's when she suggested the journaling. The other thing I've been having is that when something stresses me out, like say work, I switch my stress back to grieving and avoid even dealing with the other stress. I guess the journaling kind of helps here too, because it gives me time to try and write out the sources of my emotions, so now I'm a bit better at taking pause and trying to identify what I am feeling and what it is I really want.

My newest thing is that when I feel slow onset of anxiety, I try to get active, whether it is working out or just cleaning or just physically changing locations for awhile. I still am not really able to do this when I get flooded, but its a start.

I slept like shit last night and I've been tired and all over the place emotionally today. I do feel I am recovering from what I felt yesterday, which is good. I measure my progress now in how long negative feelings persist and how long before I get back to baseline. It's a long road.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on May 29, 2020, 02:25:29 AM
These recent anxiety posts are helping me.

I posted in the corona thread that I had a close up encounter with a doctor (who sees tons of patients daily, some with masks, some without) in my face whose not wearing a mask talking for like 5 mins and I just had a cheap cloth no filter mask on. I had a panic attack/anxiety attack after worrying that I could have got C19 if the doctor (who is a dumbass and probably very trumpy) was contagious and being immune suppressed that can go very badly for me.

Tried talking to family, friends all day for support because I was having such bad anxiety I couldn't think of anything else and my face was on fire, heart rate up, can't sleep without nightmares, can't do anything else but think of the ticking time bomb of the next 5-7 days until potentially symptoms could start to appear and I could die. Just really afraid, haven't been this scared of anything in a long long time. Was feeling better for a little while after talking to one friend and they got me thinking the chances were really low that I could have gotten it, but then started looking into research statistics and started getting more nervous again.

I'm afraid in the next week I'll either start having psycho-somatic fake symptoms, panick attacks, or a mental breakdown, unable to sleep or cook and eat, etc..etc...until enough time has passed that fingers crossed I know I'm clear and can go back to my extremely bunker style safe day to day living to protect myself.

I need to relax and take my mind off this and move on. If I get sick, I get sick and I'll go get tested and deal with it, but otherwise I need to live my life. But it's hard getting through the fear & anxiety.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: bluemax on May 29, 2020, 02:31:40 AM
Try some different types of meditation maybe Bebpo? Progressive muscle relaxation might help as it has you focus on different parts of you body and releasing tension, instead of the usual stuff about controlling or clearing your thoughts. Alternatively guided imagery meditation is another option. I've tried both of these as simply trying to clear my mind doesn't work super well, and when I first started trying again recently I was having PTSD to a recent traumatic event. These forms of meditation kind of help you learn to control your breathing and body as well as being a little less abstract mentally than most meditations.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 29, 2020, 02:45:34 AM
Bebpo I can recommend this book:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13721709-the-antidote

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A witty, fascinating, and counterintuitive read that turns decades of self-help advice on its head and forces us to rethink completely our attitudes toward failure, uncertainty, and death.

The Antidote is a series of journeys among people who share a single, surprising way of thinking about life. What they have in common is a hunch about human psychology: that it's our constant effort to eliminate the negative that causes us to feel so anxious, insecure, and unhappy. And that there is an alternative "negative path" to happiness and success that involves embracing the things we spend our lives trying to avoid. It is a subversive, galvanizing message, which turns out to have a long and distinguished philosophical lineage ranging from ancient Roman Stoic philosophers to Buddhists.

Oliver Burkeman talks to life coaches paid to make their clients' lives a living hell, and to maverick security experts such as Bruce Schneier, who contends that the changes we've made to airport and aircraft security since the 9/11 attacks have actually made us less safe. And then there are the "backwards" business gurus, who suggest not having any goals at all and not planning for a company's future.

Burkeman's new book is a witty, fascinating, and counterintuitive read that turns decades of self-help advice on its head and forces us to rethink completely our attitudes toward failure, uncertainty, and death. (less)
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on June 10, 2020, 12:22:26 PM
Man, the situation in the USA with Covid is so depressing. Especially living in a slightly red/conservative/fox area where people are protesting all the time to not wear masks and nobody is wearing masks anywhere, neighbors all not wearing masks.

It just feels hopeless.

If I make it through this year, I'm going to really try to start the process to move to Canada next year. I can't deal with living in the USA anymore.

If there was some city/town in the USA where the police weren't fucking terrible, where people were responsible and everyone was wearing masks & social distancing, and generally was a multi-cultural progressive place, I'd be happy to move there and stay in the USA, but I don't any place is like that here.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: bork on June 10, 2020, 12:26:32 PM
I agree with you, Bebpo, but I don't think it's really going to be any better in Canada.  But a change of scenery does seem like it might be a good idea.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on June 10, 2020, 12:32:21 PM
I agree with you, Bebpo, but I don't think it's really going to be any better in Canada.  But a change of scenery does seem like it might be a good idea.

I feel like the big cities have their own issues like Vancouver's ridiculous cost of living elitist place, but I feel like maybe some of the smaller towns would be chill. Idk, I'd need to do more research.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: bork on June 10, 2020, 12:33:23 PM
I agree with you, Bebpo, but I don't think it's really going to be any better in Canada.  But a change of scenery does seem like it might be a good idea.

I feel like the big cities have their own issues like Vancouver's ridiculous cost of living elitist place, but I feel like maybe some of the smaller towns would be chill. Idk, I'd need to do more research.

Don't see how that would be any different than a smaller town here (obviously not in places like the south, lol).  Recently I started thinking about how I'd like to try living in a New England town on the coast.  Used to live in a town on Long Island as a kid and those were good times. 
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 10, 2020, 12:58:08 PM
Yeah, I’ve been feeling similarly, bebs. The town I live in is like halfway between Portland proper (Antifa bravo base) and eastern Oregon, which, is like don’t tread on me flag, oreGUNian stickers, take over wild life preserves with an armed militia territory. There’s bars up here where I know the owner and she’s a berniecrat, and there’s bars up here where no one on the staff was wearing face masks. I’m feeling like I need to hunker back down hard right now, and I’m going fuckin crazy from the months I’ve been hunkered already with a weird (ex)/wife situation and being unemployed, and like fearful I might have to make some principled stand at the local thrift way with the blm protestors because I also hear the hick bois talking shit about em. America is powdered up right now ready to blow — no way I can move up north though, this house is pretty much my footprint on the world so, just gotta get involved in my little town
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Positive Touch on June 10, 2020, 01:22:18 PM
had three therapy sessions during quarantine and the therapist no-showed on two of them


doing super over here guys  :shaking
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on June 10, 2020, 06:58:47 PM
had three therapy sessions during quarantine and the therapist no-showed on two of them


doing super over here guys  :shaking

 :(

Also my therapist no-shows like every couple of appointments. Then he's like "oh whoops I forgot to write down our next appointment on the calendar and booked someone else, are you free tomorrow?". I don't know if this is a therapist thing. Did your therapist at least try to reschedule like that? Or did they just ghost you forever.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Positive Touch on June 10, 2020, 08:07:16 PM
they did eventually join up, so that's something
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on June 10, 2020, 10:28:13 PM
they did eventually join up, so that's something

Oh, so they just showed up late? Yeah, my therapist is alwaaaays late. When I'd go in person I'd sit in the waiting room for like 10 mins past my start time :|
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Positive Touch on June 10, 2020, 10:40:50 PM
yeah, they were late. had my anxiety all over the place because of the last no show.

this stuff definitely helps but I'm always fighting the urge to want to like map stuff out and say "HEY DOESN'T THIS LOOK LIKE A PATTERN FIX IT PLEASE"
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: chronovore on June 11, 2020, 12:08:43 AM
That all sounds ridiculously unprofessional of them.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: thisismyusername on July 03, 2020, 05:36:56 PM
I don't think I'm supposed to be happy in my life or in general, like ever.

I'm starting to come around to that realization. I mean, it's been part of my life for ages. But this seems to be the truth that I'm supposed to face.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 03, 2020, 05:52:07 PM
I'm just aiming to control my depressive episodes in life.  Want to get that down then the rest is bonus. 
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Positive Touch on July 03, 2020, 06:43:46 PM
the low energy shit is the worst. like when those terrible days are over it's like well at least i survived, but the rest of the time it just feels like where is the energy to do anything at all?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: thisismyusername on July 03, 2020, 09:36:40 PM
It's not the low energy or sadness for me. It's the realization that nobody that I give a shit about gives a shit about me.

Oh, my parents do: I "know" that but it's impossible to talk to them about shit for me. They never listen.

Same with my boss when I show concerns about methods/etc. It's impossible for me to actually have someone sit there and listen when I do the same.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: chronovore on July 04, 2020, 10:48:06 PM
I haven't had a major panic attack since those days about which I posted.

I occasionally still deal with dizziness and nausea, which I'm certain is stress-related. I do breathing exercises and it comes under control pretty quickly. Some efforts take longer than others.

Some family stuff came up in addition to work stress, and it's compounded by COVID-19 preventing me from flying to the USA to deal with it directly. Absolutely miserable stuff. But I'm continuing to breathe my way through it.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: james on July 10, 2020, 05:57:07 PM
Pretty sure I'm depressed
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on July 10, 2020, 06:36:14 PM
Hang in there, jimmy
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on July 10, 2020, 06:39:49 PM
No disappearing again, either. Check in with us
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: james on July 10, 2020, 06:48:50 PM
My dinner yesterday was Ben and Jerry. My breakfast and lunch today was doritos
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 10, 2020, 06:50:09 PM
Bedtime snack should be a chunk of cheese eaten in front of an open fridge. 
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Clockwork5 on July 10, 2020, 06:51:34 PM
Im going to get fucked up and watch Bob Ross on Twitch.  I mean, its not the best way to deal... but its not the worst.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: james on July 10, 2020, 07:05:13 PM
Bedtime snack should be a chunk of cheese eaten in front of an open fridge.

I thought that was just me
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: BIONIC on July 10, 2020, 07:17:25 PM
My dinner yesterday was Ben and Jerry. My breakfast and lunch today was doritos

One of us. One of us. One of us.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Nintex on July 10, 2020, 08:06:22 PM
Pretty sure I'm depressed
I knew Bakugan was bad but hang in there a Nintendo Direct will be here soon.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: james on July 10, 2020, 08:09:43 PM
Pretty sure I'm depressed
I knew Bakugan was bad but hang in there a Nintendo Direct will be here soon.

The only game i care about is asphalt 9. 2 hours a day
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Nintex on July 10, 2020, 08:22:06 PM
Pretty sure I'm depressed
I knew Bakugan was bad but hang in there a Nintendo Direct will be here soon.

The only game i care about is asphalt 9. 2 hours a day
Wow, you really are depressed
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: james on July 10, 2020, 08:27:23 PM
Pretty sure I'm depressed
I knew Bakugan was bad but hang in there a Nintendo Direct will be here soon.

The only game i care about is asphalt 9. 2 hours a day
Wow, you really are depressed

We have a spot in our club open if you want to join
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Trent Dole on July 11, 2020, 11:05:45 AM
July is Everyone Wants to Die Month!
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Transhuman on July 11, 2020, 11:10:43 AM
Pretty sure I'm depressed
I knew Bakugan was bad but hang in there a Nintendo Direct will be here soon.

The only game i care about is asphalt 9. 2 hours a day
Wow, you really are depressed

We have a spot in our club open if you want to join

Hey hey hey, I was depressed way before him
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: thisismyusername on July 11, 2020, 09:59:43 PM
Good news, everybody:

https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/hpbbpq/positive_thinking_has_long_been_extolled_as_the/
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on July 11, 2020, 10:01:21 PM
Exceeding low expectations produces greater levels of dopamine in monkey brains, news at 11.

That said, both optimism and realism are still more tenable day-to-day than pessimism -- that's mostly what I take away from this story.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: james on July 11, 2020, 10:58:30 PM
Does my dorritos and ben and jerrys dinner make me happy? What does science say
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on July 11, 2020, 11:41:02 PM
Make like 10 s’mores at once in the oven
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: bluemax on July 13, 2020, 02:04:41 AM
Went to visit my new PCP for the first time this past Friday. After talking it over with her I decided to switch meds up. The anxiety levels I've felt this year are unlike any other year of my life. Obviously there's been a lot of shit going on (painful breakup, drama with my previous work place, global pandemic), but I feel like when you rate yourself as suffering from severe anxiety, and you take stock of the whole year and realize there hasn't been more than a few day stretch where I haven't felt this way... it is probably time to change. And it isn't like I haven't been trying other stuff, I do therapy, I journal, I have done some meditation, albeit not consistent. But, I just feel like my baseline is all screwed up.

It sucks, 8 months ago I was doing a half dose of the meds I've been on and my life seemed like it was completely on the rise. Now I'm trying to just get a stable baseline again. The medication I have been on (wellbutrin), is one I switched to after talking to my previous doctor about how I felt the previous meds (zoloft) were totally messing me up sexually. And while the wellbutrin made this aspect somewhat better, apparently it does not treat anxiety as well. But I guess if I have to pick between being able to have an orgasm slightly more often (and still less than most people) and not feeling like a complete emotional wreck every day, I'll choose the latter for now.

Predictably of course, the last two days have been unpleasant as I taper off the old meds and on to the new ones. I don't think I had this issue when switching from zoloft to wellbutrin, but at least I've experienced these feelings in the past, so I know it is temporary enough and don't totally lose my shit.

I also got a referral to a psychiatrist since I've never actually spoken to one. And to a urologist, just to see if my issues are all brain chemistry related or not. And the doctor prescribed me a secondary med that is a take as needed for anxiety. I forget the name, something with a p, that is supposedly safer than xanax.

Somewhere out there is an alternate universe me who didn't fuck things up to start the year and still has a wonderful and caring girlfriend so he doesn't need all these meds, sigh.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: benjipwns on July 13, 2020, 03:02:36 AM
I couldn't even tell if I had taken wellbutrin or not.

Psychiatrists usually focus on different things and some people dislike them because they often can be clinical and high level rather than someone to talk to for an hour like a psychologist/nurse. I personally like it, or at least I like mine, because it feels like it helps just to focus on the medications and longer term picture than you get with a regular therapist that you see more often.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: thisismyusername on July 22, 2020, 12:37:48 AM
Get a job offer/interview offer from department employee head at 8AM:

:hyper "Finally, I can get the fuck out of my COVID infested job."

E-mail automated from HR at 5PM:
"Actually, we're going with other people."

(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/93256810_3215102041842433_6251803453174054912_o.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=gJn1mBraoTcAX8lJP03&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&oh=646799a8eee98b141d8f72e2c7016d7d&oe=5F3B6C7F)

Seriously contemplating throwing myself off a high building at this point. I know with COVID shit is horrible, but this kind of trolling really pisses me off and demoralizes me.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on July 22, 2020, 08:42:46 AM
That sucks man. :( But if you do that then I'll be the only Teh Gay left here (demi's fatsexual.) :( You can't leave me alone with these breeders. :'(

I went through the ringer looking for a replacement JS contract earlier this year (when I was absent.) I got so sick of it I just gave up, accepted a lower quality of life for myself for a while, and decided to take programming gigs off like Fiverr or whatever. I know a lot of fields don't have that flexibility, but I totally understand being burned by the interview process.

I actually had a call with Amazon that went really well (I thought) only for the recruiter to be like "Yeah guess not" and I was so upset I burned the bridge with that recruiter. :lol I do partly feel it was his fault (it's complicated) but looking back, shouldn't have done it (it's pretty much the only bridge I've ever burned professionally, and over something so stupid lol.) But I was really fucking upset that day.

What's shitty is you never know if like, tomorrow or two days you'll get a huge breakthrough. I think you'll get there, and I hope you don't take your jumping fantasies seriously.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: thisismyusername on July 22, 2020, 10:12:56 AM
No, you misunderstand.

I literally get the interview offer in the morning. But I didn't have time to schedule or respond, and they said "we're scheduling for the week" so I figured "oh, I have time to respond later today in the evening." By the time I actually get around to it (7PM) they, during their closing hours, decide to reject me. No response, no interview, no nothing. They just out of the blue state "oh, don't bother. We're rejecting you."

So I'm like "What the fuck?" I e-mail the department head with "Uh, so it was a mistake? Why would you personally e-mail me and then your automated HR e-mail address respond later in the day with 'no, don't'?"

"I am not showing you scheduled an interview."
"Well, I was going to, but then your HR department told me to not bother. So again: Is there any particular reason why you'd say to schedule an interview and then be told to not bother?"

(Nothing since)

This shit is exactly why I don't bother with applying to places in general, but it's a complete bullshit show where they don't ever go to the actual interview stage for me for whatever reason and then never give me an actual response to where I can improve.

Thing is: If they wanted a response BY THE END OF THE FUCKING WORK DAY, they never stated it:

"I will be conducting telephone interviews this week for our Computer Support position. Please follow the link to schedule a time. At the time of the interview I will call the number on your application.

 

 

https://calendly.com/<user>/<calendar>
 


<Name>
Systems Engineer
@.org"

That is the literal e-mail for the interview offer. Nothing about a time limit and nothing about anything beyond "we're doing interviews this week, please schedule." I was gonna schedule in the evening, so what the fuck at the same-day e-mail of "Oh, don't bother. We're going with someone else." from HR.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on July 22, 2020, 11:15:15 AM
Yeah, that's frustrating. Honestly a lot of depts are pretty sloppy like that and full of people just checking their watch, more than happy not to follow-up on anything and then taking the easiest route so they can clock out (an automated rejection like that fits the bill to me.) People are lazy and not looking out for you, and it seems like they're doing it deliberately but it's mostly people just doing the bare minimum. It's infuriating when you need something from them, but I've learned the energy you put into raging at the system is disproportionate to the amount of change you can affect, so I don't even bother anymore.

As upsetting as it is I wouldn't call the situation a waste of time. At least now you know to get on that shit ASAP.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: thisismyusername on July 22, 2020, 11:36:10 AM
Well, wouldn't have mattered anyway since they would've probably discriminated against me since their interview process needs another method/them to be comfortable with an alternate option.

What's really frustrating/annoying is that I made the drive to their office and the place closed like at the same time I was getting off work to drive there. So by the time I got there to give them an updated phone number/solutions for the problem, they were already closed and had already fired off that automated e-mail that I didn't get until I got home.


Frankly, it's more "fuck them," than "schedule fast" because the process for me is different as a cripple.

In fact, I just sent another e-mail to burn that bridge with an "Actually, I was there to schedule/update my number as I forget what was on the application number: If it was my actual number or an answering machine number, one of the people in the building can confirm I was there to give you the updated information, but by the time I got home your company had already decided to not bother. So really, next time: Be consistent and reject or state theres a time limit of by-end-of-business-day instead of saying your interviewing for the week because I was gonna schedule in the middle of the week and give you updated information before I did."

Fuck them. There is barely any IT work around here anyway, so I might as well burn the bridge and my ceritfication in the process.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: james on August 15, 2020, 07:16:48 PM
Past two weeks were good. Was even making healthy food. Not today
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on August 16, 2020, 02:00:03 PM
Going to take a break from reading Era and FB. FB is nothing but a million posts on all the terrible things going on in the world/USA, and Era is nothing but doom & gloom nihilism lately about the world/USA news. The combination of which is triggering some existential depression going on.

It's important to stay abreast of what's going on in the world, but I just need a break for a week or so.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: shosta on August 16, 2020, 02:03:52 PM
Always take care of yourself, bebs! I tell all my friends to stop reading the news if the news is depressing. One of the best things you can do for your mental health.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Trent Dole on August 16, 2020, 02:11:45 PM
I never read Era ever. 8) I'm on twitter more than is healthy but I'm kind of just numb to shit at this point.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: EchoRin on August 16, 2020, 02:16:13 PM
Yeah, I just stick to the few community threads I'm a part of on Era. After seeing that was just a continuation of GAF at its end I kinda zoned out and leaned heavily into a few of the discords those communities had set up. But then discord got a little addictive so I scaled that way back. The Bore seemed like the nice pace that I was looking for, for the most part. So I spend most of my posting time here.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Nintex on August 16, 2020, 02:34:07 PM
Going to take a break from reading Era and FB. FB is nothing but a million posts on all the terrible things going on in the world/USA, and Era is nothing but doom & gloom nihilism lately about the world/USA news. The combination of which is triggering some existential depression going on.

It's important to stay abreast of what's going on in the world, but I just need a break for a week or so.
Sounds good, just chill out and play some video games breh or watch more positive YouTube channels.
The world will still be here next week. A lot of news doesn't really matter.

Reading era indeed is very bad for your health, I rarely go that place anymore
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: james on August 16, 2020, 08:29:16 PM
I tried to follow a bunch of food based accounts on Twitter to drown out all the depressing real work news, but they never show up on my feed. I think Twitter is intentionally trying to hurt us.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on August 19, 2020, 07:38:40 AM
Hello queens.

I'm too much of a coward to actually do anything, so do not worry, but overwhelming feeling of wanting to just die the last 24 hours. Been having huge fights with everyone around me from parents, friends to even my boss and Co workers. Just feels like I'm beyond caring about anything at this point. Can't find any peace anywhere, and the smallest things about people is setting me off into a rage. Doesn't feel sustainable.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: EchoRin on August 19, 2020, 10:10:00 AM
 :(

Give yourself a meal you really like or chill out with a few favorite drinks while listening to some music/watching film/playing vidya. Hope that when you wake up tomorrow you will feel more positive.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Rufus on August 19, 2020, 11:49:16 AM
Seems you're self-aware enough to not fall into a hole or burn bridges. It's not your fault life is screwing you over. It's OK to ask for space and step away when people won't give you any.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: bluemax on August 20, 2020, 12:33:23 AM
Went to visit my new PCP for the first time this past Friday. After talking it over with her I decided to switch meds up. The anxiety levels I've felt this year are unlike any other year of my life. Obviously there's been a lot of shit going on (painful breakup, drama with my previous work place, global pandemic), but I feel like when you rate yourself as suffering from severe anxiety, and you take stock of the whole year and realize there hasn't been more than a few day stretch where I haven't felt this way... it is probably time to change. And it isn't like I haven't been trying other stuff, I do therapy, I journal, I have done some meditation, albeit not consistent. But, I just feel like my baseline is all screwed up.

It sucks, 8 months ago I was doing a half dose of the meds I've been on and my life seemed like it was completely on the rise. Now I'm trying to just get a stable baseline again. The medication I have been on (wellbutrin), is one I switched to after talking to my previous doctor about how I felt the previous meds (zoloft) were totally messing me up sexually. And while the wellbutrin made this aspect somewhat better, apparently it does not treat anxiety as well. But I guess if I have to pick between being able to have an orgasm slightly more often (and still less than most people) and not feeling like a complete emotional wreck every day, I'll choose the latter for now.

Predictably of course, the last two days have been unpleasant as I taper off the old meds and on to the new ones. I don't think I had this issue when switching from zoloft to wellbutrin, but at least I've experienced these feelings in the past, so I know it is temporary enough and don't totally lose my shit.

I also got a referral to a psychiatrist since I've never actually spoken to one. And to a urologist, just to see if my issues are all brain chemistry related or not. And the doctor prescribed me a secondary med that is a take as needed for anxiety. I forget the name, something with a p, that is supposedly safer than xanax.

Somewhere out there is an alternate universe me who didn't fuck things up to start the year and still has a wonderful and caring girlfriend so he doesn't need all these meds, sigh.

I've forgotten to update, but I spoke with the Psychiatrist and she agreed that I am doing the right things for myself and that I made the correct choices on medication. I also went to the urologist and they were pretty helpful with everything as well. In general things have been a lot better the past month or so. My brain feels a lot calmer than it was the past 7 month or so. I'm not constantly panicking, I'm not getting into thought loops, I'm not excessively fixated on things. I am still depressed and sad and have issues, but my baseline feels like it has readjusted a lot.

The timing of my trip to my PCP was really good as it came a day after a really bad stress/panic day and it helped me to feel the need to ask for help. I've struggled most of my life with expressing myself and especially with asking for help and I think that therapy has helped me have this ability. While those months before I switched meds were awful, I am glad they were only months and not years.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Akala on September 04, 2020, 11:19:58 AM
https://twitter.com/TonyReali/status/1301645987732217861
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on September 05, 2020, 02:02:00 AM
I've been having really bad extreme fatigue/tiredness in the evenings lately. Like feels like heavy bags under my eyes and don't have the energy most nights and even on some days and just need to lay down and rest for a bit. Almost like extreme food coma and happens a few hours after lunch and then after dinner/exercise.

I thought it could be depression since I am at least somewhat depressed, but now I'm starting to think it's vitamin D deficiency after months of no sunlight since Covid quarantine. I only see the sun maybe 1 day a week these days and I looked through my daily diet stuff and I'm only get 66% of the DV of Vitamin D (50% from a multi-vitamin, 16% from yogurt drinks) and that's been going on for like 5-6 months at 66% of recommended Vit D. I was drinking some Vit D fortified orange juice early on but I had to cut it because of the acidity, which might explain this coming on now vs earlier in the quarantine.

I also though it could be diabetes but I'm not hitting any of the other symptoms and I'm in decent shape and exercising daily and eating healthy (although undereating and not getting enough calories for sure). I think it's probably lack of Vit D + Depression.

Gonna try to add more Vit D in, unfortunately looking it up it supposedly takes about 5 weeks of adding in Vit D for your body to get 100% back to normal if you're deficient.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on September 19, 2020, 02:38:18 AM
Was/am very depressed with RBG passing and the implications. Was really tempted to indulge in self-destructive behavior with some alcohol or drinking a nice cup of coffee and staying up until 6am but stopped myself and did some exercise and baked some cookies to eat over the weekend instead.

Still am depressed and splurge bought some videogames to feel better (Suda51's Fire Pro World DLC story, Hades, Roki). Installed them but didn't play them.  :'(
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 19, 2020, 05:45:57 AM
Suda51's Fire Pro World DLC story

Not sure if that's the best thing to play. Seeing that it's a sequel to the story that dealt with suicide.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on September 19, 2020, 01:31:18 PM
Haha, good point there.

Though if I never actually play these games I guess it doesn't matter  :brain
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Nintex on September 19, 2020, 02:11:52 PM
Installing the video game is half the journey, you have nearly succeeded and one day soon you will hit that play button :playa
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on October 20, 2020, 02:14:21 AM
liver pruritus is back in full force recently making me unable to sleep, and this kind of sleep deprivation is truly making my brain melt. my doctor referred me to a psychologist, for 5 free consultations so far, but not sure what that will really help. better than doing nothing i guess, and maybe it can help me actually stay asleep when i do manage to fall asleep, if he can help me worry a bit less. as it is right now, i can sleep for an hour or two and wake up wide awake, despite obviously being tired as fuck. only phenobarbital helps me sleep, and that is not really something you want to be chewing down every day. first time ever actually talking to a psychologist though, even if people will say i should have done it long ago, so a bit excited to see what it's even all about. in my mind it's just dr melfi and tony talking about the recycling business.

Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on October 20, 2020, 01:37:50 PM
I see and hear things that aren't there, but there are varying levels to it. after a few days of little to no sleep I experience full psychosis, putting me in a different reality. the medication(Olanzapine) they gave me during my inpatient stay def helps me get better, deeper sleep. it's also keeping my out of control sex drive in check somehow  :doge it's still there, just isn't grabbing the wheel of the car anymore. like I can call it up when I want. was a bit scary at first when I thought it was gone completely  :stahp


psychosis is a spectrum that I'm always on to some degree, but can fall into the deep end easier than most I think. I don't get to see cartoons walking around the apartment or anything fun like that. I just see and hear people I know saying and doing things against me. Or I connect dots that don't connect and even worse connect to dots that don't exist.

my feeling is the psychosis pushes me towards depression. I've developed ways of dealing with it, but some are not so healthy. I just need to stick to the healthy ways. things like playing in the ocean, really grounds me back down to reality.


it seemed like the doctors and staff thought I might hear voices because I think out loud. maybe that's the same thing  ???  they also seemed to think I'd been using meth, my lab results came back negative at the ER. I really haven't touched it since april 2017 when I left GA after getting out the army.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on October 22, 2020, 02:04:42 PM
sex drive exists, but doesn't have any control, other than what I give it. haven't jerked in over a month and I'm not bouncing off the walls over it. very strange, but good.


anger I find no use for. it exists, but there is no reason to hold onto, follow or become angry.


it's more like i'm getting back to things i've felt before. except for my sex drive being manageable, that's completely new
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on October 23, 2020, 07:51:47 AM
You should jerk it not for you, but for us bby


Anyway I just had an episode of suddenly getting extremely dizzy/lightheaded. Was sure I was going to pass out tbh. Was sitting in my car, just started eating and it came out of nowhere. Is this what a panic attack feels like? Felt no fear or trouble breathing really. But I was getting increasingly worried I was about to pass the fuck out and started sweating like crazy. Lasted a few min max (probably only 30 seconds or so). Could also be that I hadn't eaten anything got far too long, but I don't know. Felt weird


This does come off me being called in for a transplant and then then cancelling it last second again, after not sleeping got like 35 hours. It's two days ago now though
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on October 23, 2020, 01:21:23 PM
Alright thanks. I hate to bring Sopranos into this, but that is pretty much how far my knowledge on that extends to, which is getting dizzy and then passing out, which I felt I was very close to. I was certainly freaked out, cause happened out of nowhere just sitting eating a bit in my car, completely relaxed and feeling decent.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on October 23, 2020, 01:56:40 PM
 :fbm
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on October 23, 2020, 02:17:14 PM
mostly just what I've figured myself over time. the dr heard me thinking out loud and I guess there's some spectrum of hearing voices. thinking out loud is on there somewhere. they also said I was paranoid about things I was paranoid about at the time.

around jr high I couldn't close my eyes for too long without imagining something terrible happening in front of me. would happen especially during a shower while washing away soap. I got past that by telling myself that real life isn't that interesting and there's some monster I'll be dead  :lol it worked :)

I think I've had a lot of "fixes" I've come up with to get around what's going on in my head. some of the fixes could have been done better.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on October 23, 2020, 03:09:06 PM
probably seems worse than it is for you guys. I just have to make sure I get proper sleep at night and have some help taking care of mom. I feel calmness

if I were going out to the beach, I wouldn't smoke anything. maybe I should go
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Transhuman on October 23, 2020, 08:55:42 PM
I quit the weed and you can too bud.

I'm bored all the time but that's on Covid
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: chronovore on November 18, 2020, 04:05:29 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/UpliftingNews/comments/jw89os/canada_is_allowing_people_with_depression_to_do/

Mushrooms for depressed Canadians.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 18, 2020, 09:48:44 AM
Pretty sure they will be legalized for everyone eventually.   
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: MMaRsu on November 18, 2020, 10:09:52 AM
Came into work, wasnt feeling too bad

all of a sudden an existential feeling of dread came over me, and I started tearing up and feeling like shit

After a call with my mom I calmed down tho wtf man

Didnt even know where it came from just got depressed af all of a sudden
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: chronovore on November 22, 2020, 09:53:07 PM
Came into work, wasnt feeling too bad

all of a sudden an existential feeling of dread came over me, and I started tearing up and feeling like shit

After a call with my mom I calmed down tho wtf man

Didnt even know where it came from just got depressed af all of a sudden

This whole year, a lot of stuff piles up. You're not alone. I've been midway through a day at work, and suddenly just feel like crying, and leaving, but I don't know where I'd go.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on December 14, 2020, 11:58:14 PM
I stumbled across a random photos folder I have while looking for a zoom background. Found all kinds of photos from when I was 18-27, photos of me & the girls I dated.

Already been in a depression for a long while due to lockdown and losing all communications with almost all friends and living completely alone with no life. First half of lockdown was alright and an adventure, second half of the year has just been bad thing after bad thing snowballing into a never ending depression.

And then yeah, seeing those pics. I used to look really good and I never realized it and always thought I was an ugly looking dude. I'm jealous of my full hair and youthful face. The girls I dated in my 20s are gorgeous. Now I'm old and my hair sucks and all the women I date are older and less goddamn looking (also less crazy wild).

Nothing makes getting older more depressing than looking back at old photos.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 15, 2020, 10:57:35 AM
Realizing I'm looking old too.  Kinda sucks. 
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: chronovore on January 14, 2021, 01:43:07 AM
Bebpo, bubbly! You looked better last time you were here in Osaka than when we met the first in Los Angeles.  You seemed skittish and weird. Now you seem more confident in who you are. Own that shit. It’s worth owning.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on January 30, 2021, 08:11:00 AM
I've been struggling. Doing too much disassociation. I know I need to get into counseling or therapy. It's just hard right now, with the pandemic and then just the depression and everything else. I'm really not sure about the medication I was on at the hospital. I know it helped me sleep, but it didn't get me back to reality.


it's taken me until now to finally get back to reality. like my mind was still not all the way back from where I got lost and it's been rough. I know the depression is there and I know I'm disassociating. on top of that I didn't know what was real or not. so now it's like everything is hitting me all at once, I'm a bit shaky. mostly thinking about my family and how things have effected them. overall I feel okay despite everything. just feel like I let a lot of people down. angered people. definitely gave everyone the wrong impression.


I think anyone who meets me in person realizes that just because the inside of my head is messy, doesn't mean I treat people bad or hurt them, or even have a desire to. I do feel clarity now, but also concern about what's already happened. I can do better moving forward, but I can't expect everyone to just forget what they've seen me put out.


now I'm wondering why it took so long after getting out of in-patient care and being off the medication to get back. all the things I know now, I also knew going into the ER. the 3 days I spent alone in that room and then in-patient care for almost a month. that had me lost, not knowing what happened or what was real and what wasn't. then I start falling into old habits, but I think not as bad as before.


in-patient care did help me and I did need to be in there, but somehow I lost what happened and what had been going on.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on January 30, 2021, 08:33:44 AM
I feel good, but also with the clarity my online behavior is hitting me. I disassociate so much and so well. it's like it's all meaningless and doesn't register or matter at all while I'm doing it. it feels good having clarity, like I can get things right moving forward.


I know I fucked up bad and over a long period of time. I feel good, alleviated. like I can move. my back pain is even feeling better right now.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Nintex on January 30, 2021, 08:43:28 AM
I believe in you breh  :heart
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on January 30, 2021, 04:51:11 PM
the care I received at the ER, cottage, and crestwood was not what it should have been. the staff all knew everything and it hurt me. it's part of the reason I had to dump everything and just play it like nothing ever happened. I wouldn't have made it out of the hospital otherwise. it took a lot of prayer and meditation to survive the 3 days I spent in the ER. I went in going on my 4th day of no sleep and I was kept up for at least another day. the room I was in was next to some type of staff room and every time I would start do doze off I'd hear a loud slam like a big heavy door. that would startle me back awake and it just kept happening over and over. I had to use humor to survive through that, I had to make it funny for myself.


there's no way for me to prove the things I know were going on throughout my time in in-patient care. I've just gained enough clarity to see it all for what it was, instead of what I made it to survive through my stay. the meals I prayed over and ate knowing the food I was given had been tampered with. I just kept myself thankful for whatever I was given and prayed for everyone.


there's more I could say, maybe I will later. I do feel good about where I am mentally right now, emotionally there's a lot to unpack and work through.

maybe I'm wrong about some of it and I know it wasn't everyone on staff at the facilities. mostly I think they were all wonderful people and things got better over time in each place I was at.

the confusing thing is I think some of the things I noticed with the staff may have been intentional like some type of therapy. definitely at crestwood there was some type of program they ran for me. more I think on it I'm not so sure about things after the ER stay. cottage could have been do similar things as crestwood.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on January 30, 2021, 06:29:37 PM
I feel good, really. anxious to get into some type of outpatient care. I know I have things to work on and I'm looking forward to it.


thinking more about my time at crestwood and cottage has me feeling better about it. they were doing things to help me that maybe didn't always seem like it at the time. like I saw through it, but also wanted to stay positive and accept help, so I just looked past most of it anyway.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Nintex on January 30, 2021, 06:51:19 PM
Sounds like some Jason Bourne shit you went through

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Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on January 30, 2021, 08:50:35 PM
I'm not even sure about everything in the ER. when I left my feeling was that the hospital staff are angels  and I think I prefer that.


I felt good and positive coming out of crestwood, but I couldn't keep that up on my own.


I also have to give credit to law enforcement. they have helped me several times and I found myself praying for them along with everyone else. maybe it's just because of my veteran status and all, but I still appreciate them taking me to get help when I needed it.


I just want to get my mind, emotions and life going in a positive direction. I enjoy helping people, eventually I'd like to make that a big part of my life.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on January 30, 2021, 09:07:42 PM
Sounds like some Jason Bourne shit you went through

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it was just stuff like having people do things to trigger a response. problem was that I just didn't give any. I could just pray or meditate if I needed to, or take some medication. I think maybe that was the point, get me in the habit of doing things like that when I start feeling stressers. they were also trying to get me to do things like speak up for myself and not just be passive. it was interesting, seemed so strange how I felt it was all setup for me and partly it was.

at crestwood when I would start showing irritation and vent things out loud. then another patient would reflect that back at me, except the patients doing that were staff. I wasn't always so sure about what was going on and they did let me know at both places. it's just that I couldn't be sure because of the way my mind gets sometimes.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on January 30, 2021, 09:39:36 PM
I've struggled so hard my whole life to get to this point. I can't lose it. I never want to be down in that hole again. it's not good for me and it's not good for anyone I come in contact with. I'm scared I won't be able to get help right away. I'm so anxious to get started.


really feeling the anxiety right now. it's like I'm finally present and it's a struggle to keep from going back inside my head. it scares me and things are effecting me instantly. like there was a movie on in mom's room and some lady got shot in the head. I couldn't handle seeing it. I think it's good, I should be effected by things like that. it should be scary to be doing things differently. getting help from mental healthcare professionals without being distant. being vulnerable for real. the care I've gone through in the past did help, but I was still not dropping my guard completely. getting help scares me now, maybe it always did.I don't even want to meditate or take anything to calm down. I want to remain present, let things effect me like they should.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on February 04, 2021, 08:14:25 PM
there was a lot of damage done, but like all things it is passing.

I've been working through it and the worst is already over.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on April 23, 2021, 06:15:17 PM
Being responsible for 9 chicken deaths on Monday has actually kinda got me fucked up bad, and other family drama shit this week didn't help. :/ Just need to vent.

These days I can tell when I've entered a depressive episode because I mentally want to end most sentences IRL with "fuck off and leave me alone." And also I don't see the point in getting out of bed.

Social interactions are so difficult right now, and I don't know how to communicate that without seeming whiny or dickish. Just gotta tough it out, but that fake smile is what sucks the most.

Will keep telling myself what I'm feeling isn't real, that the people in my life are more supportive than I'm giving them credit for, and that eventually I will claim greater agency for myself and my decisions.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Don Rumata on April 25, 2021, 09:30:30 AM
4 months of 2021 has actually been worse than all of 2020
For real.
Lost 2 family members in the span of a couple of months (one to covid).

Light at the end of the tunnel was an oncoming train, who knew.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on June 02, 2021, 09:32:07 AM
doing extraordinarily well, feeling it's time to explore therapy


if we are feeling well we may think we can stop treatment or that we do not need it to begin with. we can also do what it takes to continue feeling well.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on June 05, 2021, 01:29:01 PM
just thinking about how the inpatient care may have fucked me up worse than all the chit that came before it. from the ER room on, they did a number on me and I really just needed help to recover. I've been recovering from the inpatient insanity they put me through this whole time, on top of all the other chit that was going on and then caring for mom on top of it.


none of the people who run their mouths could survive an hour of  any of that, especially not when combined. I lived through it 24 hours a day and I'm still here and enjoying my life. I pray you all find your way to some peace as well.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on June 07, 2021, 07:28:30 PM
Working on a life plan rn to get myself back together.

Feels like even being vaccinated and back to life in CA, everything that was my life is gone and I'm back to square one in doing something. My friends are all kind of flakey, my horror meetups I used to organize has their next event in december and no one seems real interested in getting it back going, my dating profiles are all bad and outdated, so been in a depression funk in my free time of trying to motivate myself to do something. Been driving to parks and walking around taking photos and stuff mostly. And working out daily.

I either need a new hobby, or I need to get motivated enough to put my horror group back together by thinking of (safe) event ideas or finding (safe) events going on soon.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: chronovore on June 08, 2021, 01:57:55 AM
It is not my intent to diminish your problems, only to affirm that we're all going through a bunch of shit right now. Having a pandemic would have been stressful enough, but we also found out MANY in our American society are selfish, racist, STUPID fuckbags whose concept of freedom is so fragile that hoping they'll "look out for those around you" is considered a personal attack on their rights.

…and then we got to find out some of our friends and relatives also rolled this way.

It has been a shocking few years, and it felt like it was accelerating toward a cliff.

So it's no wonder you're feeling out of sorts.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on June 08, 2021, 03:28:57 PM
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Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 08, 2021, 07:45:58 PM
ALS sucks big time. The dad of a kid I was support teacher for got it, and seeing the disease progress was rough, can only imagine what it's like for family. But the good thing is the mind is still there, so being with her is a very good thing, and most certainly making her life a lot better. Hope you and your mom manages to have a good time despite the disease.


Edit: For myself, I'm on my last paycheck this month, and then I will be unofficially unemployed. I got enough saved up that I shouldn't have a problem financially for quite some time, but I also hope to be able to loan money for a house soon, a fairly perfect house for what I need (i have about 2/5 of the value saved up myself). Felt fine not having a job and being fired due to illness, but I have a feeling I will get rejected due to no permanent work and it will fucking suck. Dont want to ask parents for help. Hoping that never owing anyone money and always paying everything on time will work to my advantage though.

Started doing long walks every day, and working out with dumbells every second day. It isn't much, but it really has made me feel better physically, and that helps feeling better mentally in the end. No real anxiety over surgery, no panic every time the phone rings thinking it's the hospital, and no stress due to not working.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on June 08, 2021, 07:53:08 PM
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Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 08, 2021, 07:56:10 PM
Can't do more than that, no point in taking on the pain yourself at least. Wasn't aware of her mental state before all this, so I apologize for assuming anything, but I am sure it's making her days a lot better either way.  :rejoice
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: chronovore on June 08, 2021, 08:58:10 PM
well the mental health aspect is part of what makes it so difficult at times. mom's mental health wasn't great before this and I imagine even a mentally healthy person would struggle with losing use of legs and arms. it's just so much for her to have to go through and I was taking too much of it on myself. I have learned to care without taking myself down doing so. when mom is in pain I can just do what is possible for me to do and leave it at that. I am no longer breaking down over it and taking on all the pain myself to the point I become unhealthy.

I apologize in advance for how trite this is, but I always think of the pre-flight airline safety demonstration regarding oxygen masks: Take care of yourself first, in order to safely take care of loved ones next.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on June 08, 2021, 09:36:28 PM
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Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: chronovore on June 08, 2021, 10:16:19 PM
Please make sure you get the care you need and deserve, so you can give your mother the care she needs and deserves.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: benjipwns on June 08, 2021, 11:57:07 PM
ALS is real poop, my dad's brother had it back in 2011-13 before finally passing, I dunno why that Lou Gherig jerk invented it

bless up for choosing non-violence, always :heart
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on July 29, 2021, 02:27:11 AM
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Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on May 14, 2022, 05:13:28 PM
Since I lost all my friends during covid (they didn't die, just one person turned against me for not attending their fucking birthday party during year 1 pandemic and excised me from the friend group completely), I've realized not having anything to fall back on means every time shitty stuff happens I end up back in a depression since I have no support and pretty much live and am totally alone.

I started learning game dev and making games to get me out of a long depression since my last relationship and it worked and was doing pretty good. Then got down again when I lost track during my next game, and then got up again when I made a new game and had a couple of good dates in a row.

I got ghosted this week by my last date in a pretty suck way. Don't mind getting ghosted since that's how dating goes, but things had been starting well and after our last date they were texting me how excited they were to see me again with emoticon smiles and stuff and then real quick within a day or two they started getting reaaaaal slow & short on replies and after a few of those just totally ghosted. Sucks when you think things are good and then rug is pulled out.

So been pretty down again and it sucks. Gonna start Elden Ring finally to try to find something new to focus on for a bit. Really just wish I had friends because they were a major safety net when things like this would happen to have a friend to go get a drink with and hang out. Just not even sure how to make new irl friends these days during the pandemic since I'm a weirdo and still wearing masks and like no one else is here.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Uncle on May 14, 2022, 06:02:21 PM
I'm just a dumb internet rando and I don't really know you but I hope things get better for you bebpo

I don't know how to make new IRL friends either, mostly I've been lucky having nice coworkers with similar interests plopped next to me out of nowhere, like thanks universe

but I'm also not a super social person

the only things I see recommended usually are random club/group meetups like finding people who play D&D in your area, but stuff like that gets weirder as you get older, like, what if you show up to a game with nothing but teens

it's like you're expected to already have your groups by a certain point and eventually there's nothing  :-\
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on May 14, 2022, 06:39:40 PM
Thanks, yeah meetups are how I've made my last couple of groups of friends irl over the past decade.

But right now I'm kinda iffy on going to a new group of random people since like no one is wearing masks here and me being immune compromised I'll show up to a group of random strangers all masked up and it'll be really awkward. Was waiting for pandemic stuff to get better to get back to socializing with strangers but who knows when that'll happen. I started going to meetups again last summer/fall since with vaccines it was pretty safe even during Delta, but with Omicron and its variants, right now not super big on risk taking.

Basically just like ready to hang out between waves of pandemic I guess. At least until they make a new vaccine that works against the omicron variants.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on June 13, 2022, 09:32:13 PM
Been on a lot of downers lately.

Life is hard  :(
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: bork on June 13, 2022, 09:55:51 PM
I feel you on the mask thing- I often notice that we're the only ones still masking up at a lot of places.  Not going to stop me from doing it, though.

I've spent the past (nearly) month battling food poisoning and then what appears to be a long-lasting bad case of an IBS flare-up following it.  At one point I was sent to the ER.  They didn't find anything bad and neither did a fecal test, but I keep trying stuff to feel better and keep feeling bad, and it has me feeling down at times.  I try stay positive though. 
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on June 13, 2022, 10:13:03 PM
Sorry to hear bork. Food poisoning and IBS fucking suck. Was it from that Peanut Butter recall? I think I got some food poisoning and GI flareup from that for a week or two myself.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: bork on June 13, 2022, 11:15:59 PM
Sorry to hear bork. Food poisoning and IBS fucking suck. Was it from that Peanut Butter recall? I think I got some food poisoning and GI flareup from that for a week or two myself.

Went on vacation and am pretty sure I got it from some seafood that I had for dinner...on my birthday.  That was a nice present.  :-\

It worries me that this could be something else, but the doctor seemed pretty confident it was all related to food poisoning and said something worse wouldn't just suddenly start happening like this did.  She said for some people this kind of thing can go on for weeks...or months.  :cry
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on June 14, 2022, 12:38:50 AM
It usually won't last that long though.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: chronovore on June 14, 2022, 12:51:09 AM
Food poisoning on your birthday. That's ROUGH.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: bork on June 14, 2022, 05:51:11 PM
It usually won't last that long though.

Am at 3+ weeks feeling like this, but I also didn't fully-eat the right foods until just a few days ago after getting a low fodmap diet.  Was told to wait a few weeks to see how everything is going- one more week and then I'm sure I'm headed back to the doctor.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: james on June 15, 2022, 02:04:32 AM
My friend told me she was extremely depressed and suicidal. She said the only reason she hadnt killed herself was that she was a coward. She said she had nothing to live for.

I suggested she get pregnant to have something to look forward to.

She said she was muting me.

Im not good a this :fbm
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: chronovore on June 15, 2022, 02:05:47 AM
Tell her to seek professional help.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: BIONIC on June 15, 2022, 02:22:05 AM
My friend told me she was extremely depressed and suicidal. She said the only reason she hadnt killed herself was that she was a coward. She said she had nothing to live for.

I suggested she get pregnant to have something to look forward to.

She said she was muting me.

Im not good a this :fbm

:whoo
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: james on June 15, 2022, 08:20:52 AM
Tell her to seek professional help.

I messaged my other friend and that was what she suggested and I went with
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Transhuman on June 15, 2022, 08:55:03 AM
Tell her to seek professional help.

You mean like IVF?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 15, 2022, 09:31:36 AM
My friend told me she was extremely depressed and suicidal. She said the only reason she hadnt killed herself was that she was a coward. She said she had nothing to live for.

I suggested she get pregnant to have something to look forward to.

She said she was muting me.

Im not good a this :fbm

Tell her to seek professional help.

I messaged my other friend and that was what she suggested and I went with

There is not being good at supporting friends in need and then there is actively being unsupportive.  Think edgelord responses fall in the latter category.  If you still want to help, an apology and explaining why you gave the response you did would be more supportive now than telling her to get professional help.   
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: james on June 15, 2022, 09:38:56 AM
My friend told me she was extremely depressed and suicidal. She said the only reason she hadnt killed herself was that she was a coward. She said she had nothing to live for.

I suggested she get pregnant to have something to look forward to.

She said she was muting me.

Im not good a this :fbm

Tell her to seek professional help.

I messaged my other friend and that was what she suggested and I went with

There is not being good at supporting friends in need and then there is actively being unsupportive.  Think edgelord responses fall in the latter category.  If you still want to help, an apology and explaining why you gave the response you did would be more supportive now than telling her to get professional help.

To be fair she provided shit support to me when I had my breakup
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Svejk on June 15, 2022, 09:39:15 AM
It usually won't last that long though.

Am at 3+ weeks feeling like this, but I also didn't fully-eat the right foods until just a few days ago after getting a low fodmap diet.  Was told to wait a few weeks to see how everything is going- one more week and then I'm sure I'm headed back to the doctor.
Dang brother, you still suffering with this?  I'm sorry to hear..  Forget trying doctors, you should try a nutritionist. They'll actually help with a healing diet and not pump you full of cheap, oil based meds like big pappa pharma wants.  And stay off the corbonated drinks...

As for the rest of y'all, since I rarely dabble in the superdeep, I'm sending prayers out to you all and your loved ones.  There will always, always, ALWAYS be something good to look forward to, whether you see it or not...  We have bad/hard times as reminders that there are good times ahead.  May God bless you all!
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Nintex on June 15, 2022, 03:35:24 PM
It's always darkest before the dawn  :heart
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on July 19, 2022, 01:23:01 AM
Shiiiiiiit life is fucking hard lately. I don't even know how to explain here lol.

My job's fucked up, my sister's life is fucked up, we're all in debt to our eyeballs including my parents, I have no control over my finances due to a bad decision from 6 years ago, I put my creative ambitions on indefinite hold, and I'm starting to come unglued being in the middle of every single fucking drama event. My last two days off from work were May 31 and July 4.

Highlight of my day is anxiety-puking in the shower each morning. Yay.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on July 19, 2022, 02:05:55 AM
Shiiiiiiit life is fucking hard lately. I don't even know how to explain here lol.

My job's fucked up, my sister's life is fucked up, we're all in debt to our eyeballs including my parents, I have no control over my finances due to a bad decision from 6 years ago, I put my creative ambitions on indefinite hold, and I'm starting to come unglued being in the middle of every single fucking drama event. My last two days off from work were May 31 and July 4.

Highlight of my day is anxiety-puking in the shower each morning. Yay.

Hang in there Tasty
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: chronovore on July 20, 2022, 01:17:46 AM
This all sounds horrifying. You are not taking time for yourself. Is there any way you can ease off and take a couple days to yourself?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Transhuman on July 20, 2022, 05:10:24 AM
He needs less icky alcohol and more tasty mariguana
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 12, 2022, 10:51:49 AM
Depression is inching in again.  I had a bunch of success last year but now that is running out of steam without any new achievements to ride high on. At least I'm at the point in life where I can recognize the issue and try to do something about it but it's so damn hard.  I'm getting some work done and walking into work everyday which is helping but I really need to be excising, eating better, drinking less, and getting more done which feels super overhelming right now.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on September 02, 2022, 11:13:37 PM
I've been enrolled in therapy for childhood PTSD and depression. It's been helping. One thing I've been working on is emotional regulation which I lack. I've been seeing a lot of progress, which is really good. Consuming shrooms in microdoses have done wonders for my mental health and I'm doing really good! :)

Hang in there everybody.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on September 04, 2022, 10:47:48 AM
Really happy to hear that Himu! :) Bless up :preach

This all sounds horrifying. You are not taking time for yourself. Is there any way you can ease off and take a couple days to yourself?

Missed this post earlier. I was basically banking days and goodwill so I could take this week in Vegas. It's unlikely I'll have much more time off for the rest of the year, but I've achieved some measure of inner peace which I anticipate will get me through this next rough patch.

I can never predict what the next big emergency is, but I usually have a feeling something's coming lol.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on September 04, 2022, 12:59:07 PM
One thing I've had trouble with is others believe in me more than I believe in myself. Thanks to the shrooms I've been able to combat that directly. It has been really helpful in turning around negative thought patterns.

Thank you Andy. How often do you have for yourself? You can't keep doing this.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Nintex on September 04, 2022, 03:01:14 PM
Good stuff, sounds like you guys can finally pilot my Evangelions  :doggy
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on September 05, 2022, 05:17:34 PM
I need to take some time away from everything and re-organize my life. Back to therapy would be good too if I can find a good therapist.

I think I have too much time so spend to much of it getting annoyed by forums and too much time spent thinking about dating & sex & getting old/being too old to relate/connect with anyone anymore, all of which just makes me more and more unhappy. Time to reboot and get away from the internet and find some life stuff that brings a good healthy mindset.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on September 05, 2022, 05:43:54 PM
Though some of this is out of my hand. Among all my health issues, in the last few months my doctors and I discovered that since Nov 2021 I've been significantly draining Iron from my blood and can't absorb any anymore so my iron tests show me at a critical failure level of almost non-existent iron and iron foods/pills do nothing because I can't absorb it.

I'm working each week on getting iron infusions going to address this and hopefully we get my first iron infusion soon.

But like the side effects of anemic levels of iron are fatigue, irritability, anxiety, depression due to being unable to produce dopamine from lack of iron, frustration, weakness, etc...

And I've been at those levels for almost a year now and been in a pretty shit mood all year with a ton of health issues. So that may be the cause of a lot of stuff. Hopefully when I get iron infusions it'll really change things.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on September 05, 2022, 06:03:09 PM
I'm really sorry you're going through all that, Bebpo. Stay strong.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
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Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on September 08, 2022, 02:33:00 AM
My anxiety/depression is worse than ever. Doctors/insurance stuff is disgustingly awful and slow in the USA and you can't even get a hold of a live person at my doctors office only leave messages and then get a response at some point. Also like 90% of the time I need one doctor to get something to the other doctor, it takes days for them to do it and then I follow up with the other office and they go "we never got anything" and then I have to go back to the first office and takes days to try again. This happened with getting my prescription for my iron infusion over, will see if they actually got it over tomorrow.

I feel like even if I'm trying to avoid it, I'm stuck with my life on hold because I feel like I need these meds and they'll fix a lot of stuff. So each day it's like I try to call a doctor office and move this thing along one step and until I hear back, I feel depressed and anxious and can't do anything with my day. At the slow speed this stuff can go it might take another week or so, so I need to get my shit together even if I'm kinda dizzy and fatigued and depressed and anxious and stressed and still do something and be somewhat functional.

And in the middle of all this, today my elderly mom faceplanted head first into the ground while taking out the trash bin and ended up in the ER and needed stitches. That was scary and further spiked anxiety. Luckily they said she didn't have a concussion or anything and just needed a few stitches on her nose. I'm still a little nervous because they didn't run a CT scan. They asked her a bunch of questions and kept her for a while and she didn't show any mental issues and didn't blackout and they didn't feel it was necessary. But you hear these stories about people who hit their head and seem totally fine and then die a few days later from a brain bleed, so I really think the ER should've done a CT scan for an elderly person hitting their head on the ground hard enough to need nose stitches. But my parents don't want to push it and it wasn't a shitty hospital and was a pretty decent respectable one so will just have to hope for the best. Either way will need to help her out and keep an eye on her for a few days.

She also got her new covid booster this afternoon, so when I first heard she fell I thought it was like she had a reaction and fainted, but she said it had nothing to do with the booster and any side effects haven't even kicked in yet and she just got dragged by a heavy trash bin that started rolling and lost her balance and fell. So now she gets to recover from face injuries and stitches and deal with covid booster side effects fevers and stuff at the same time tonight and tomorrow.  :-\ 

Anyhow, it's a lot of shit at once, and not doing well. Also still dealing with pretty moderate chronic pain. Lotta napping and watching porn basically which is what I do when I'm depressed.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on September 08, 2022, 04:44:13 AM
Despite the depression and anxiety I want you to try to take charge of ownership of what YOU can do in a seemingly hopeless situation bebpo. Love you and you're too great s guy to read this. Have you been active lately at all? Even if it's one thing a day, like doing the dishes or taking a shower, consider it a victory if you managed to do it.

Can you go for a walk despite the chronic pain? If you can get a walk despite the fact there are many factors outside of your control you can hopefully get a sense of empowerment again. Not a guarantee but it's something to be hopeful for. Stay positive.

I've added you to my prayer list.

I know I will sound like a puritan here but try to curb the porn use. Porn really does damage on the psyche and a man's sense of self and it can't possibly be helping your self esteem. If you can try to downgrade to softcore porn or use it less frequently throughout the week. Just try to limit your use. It doesn't help depression - it feeds off of and sometimes even causes it.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on September 09, 2022, 02:20:56 PM
Any updates on mom, Bebpo?

So my Potential mentioned a book called Non violent communication. I bought it. So far there things I disagree with but it gives me an inkling of others thoughts and how I can better communicate with others so I'm not as abrasive.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on September 09, 2022, 02:39:33 PM
She's ok, just recovering from the injuries. Doesn't seem like she's having any reactions to latest covid booster on top of it, which is good. Still slightly concerned they didn't do a CT scan, but not too worried about it.

I got my iron prescription order from one doc to the other, so step 1 is complete and now it's just going through the whole insurance authorization thing. If there's no issue then hopefully I can schedule the infusion soon.

As for walking like you suggested, I usually walk a lot daily but due to the 100F+ heatwave for 10 days straight haven't been walking. It's finally gonna rain and cool down here today so tomorrow may be able to get back to walking.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on September 09, 2022, 02:46:51 PM
My suggestion as a fellow person living in a hot area is to work out early. As in, during the morning. This has multiple benefits:

1.starts your day with a routine
2. Gives you a reason besides work to get up
3. Gets you outside regularly
4. Gives you a reason to sleep early
5. Gives energy for the rest of the day

Try to get out around 6-7 am or so. Works wonders.

Glad Mama Bebpo is okay.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on September 09, 2022, 10:41:59 PM
I offered dua for you at the mosque today, Bebpo.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: james on September 21, 2022, 08:17:23 PM
Too much of me wishes Putin would set off a few nukes so I could feel
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on September 22, 2022, 09:32:46 PM
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Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on September 22, 2022, 09:35:35 PM
Too much of me wishes Putin would set off a few nukes so I could feel

Sounds like you need God. :)
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: james on September 22, 2022, 10:18:09 PM
My friend told me she was extremely depressed and suicidal. She said the only reason she hadnt killed herself was that she was a coward. She said she had nothing to live for.

I suggested she get pregnant to have something to look forward to.

She said she was muting me.

Im not good a this :fbm
send her my way  :rash

Oh man I completely forgot about that she's still alive so mission accomplished
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: james on September 22, 2022, 10:18:42 PM
Too much of me wishes Putin would set off a few nukes so I could feel

Sounds like you need God. :)

If I kill thousands of people will God honor me with virgins that does sound nice
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on September 23, 2022, 02:47:23 AM
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Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Nintex on September 23, 2022, 05:56:15 AM
To be fair has anyone ever seen a depressed suicide bomber :trumps
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on September 23, 2022, 07:15:48 AM
Too much of me wishes Putin would set off a few nukes so I could feel

Sounds like you need God. :)

If I kill thousands of people will God honor me with virgins that does sound nice

nah, you'd just go to hell. But if that sounds nice to you :yeshrug
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Nintex on September 23, 2022, 09:18:37 AM
But what if he kills Putin  ???

- James defects to the Russian Federation
- Putin personally gives him his passport
- James detonates his Nintendo DS

:pika
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: james on September 23, 2022, 09:41:47 AM
But what if he kills Putin  ???

- James defects to the Russian Federation
- Putin personally gives him his passport
- James detonates his Nintendo DS

:pika

Has to be the 3ds as this entire conservation is about minecraft
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Nintex on September 23, 2022, 01:49:05 PM
yes obviously
(https://c.tenor.com/QmNSPhdpO3sAAAAC/wide-putin.gif)

Minecraft: New Nintendo 3DS Edition can only be played on the New Nintendo 3DS series
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on September 30, 2022, 07:48:19 PM
Well I've made myself sick from the stress and anxiety of being on the phone half a day every day trying to get my iron infusions. Finally now after 6 weeks was told it was denied by my insurance, started looking at the costs of doing it cash without insurance, but then was told if I do new labs today maybe next week insurance would approve. Did a labs, but just been an exhausting mess.

Meanwhile I've been putting off my covid booster until I get my iron levels back since there's a decent amount of literature from the last couple of years that iron deficiency anemia greatly reduces the effectiveness of the covid vaccines.

Was looking up how long it takes for my iron to get fixed after I finally get the infusions and it looks like about 3 weeks on average. So should probably wait until that point to get my booster.

So if I can finally get my first of two iron infusions in a week with or without insurance, maybe I'll get boosted in like a month.

Holding off on dating or traveling right now until I get boosted just for some extra precautions. So another 1.5 months or so of forever alone. Maybe will be able to do both of those mid-november or december.

Also have surgeries and follow ups for my chronic pain which need the iron to kick in first so basically October looks like it's gonna be hopefully getting some iron and then feeling it kick in after a week or so and then maybe by the end of the month having normal non-anemic iron levels and that's about it. With all the next health steps being in November.

Whatever, at this point 2022 was a lost cause. Worst year of my life easily. I can get just get my health back on track by the end of the year and have some covid protection, will put a lot of effort into making it up in 2023.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Nintex on September 30, 2022, 08:03:19 PM
Well I've made myself sick from the stress and anxiety of being on the phone half a day every day trying to get my iron infusions. Finally now after 6 weeks was told it was denied by my insurance, started looking at the costs of doing it cash without insurance, but then was told if I do new labs today maybe next week insurance would approve. Did a labs, but just been an exhausting mess.

Meanwhile I've been putting off my covid booster until I get my iron levels back since there's a decent amount of literature from the last couple of years that iron deficiency anemia greatly reduces the effectiveness of the covid vaccines.

Was looking up how long it takes for my iron to get fixed after I finally get the infusions and it looks like about 3 weeks on average. So should probably wait until that point to get my booster.

So if I can finally get my first of two iron infusions in a week with or without insurance, maybe I'll get boosted in like a month.

Holding off on dating or traveling right now until I get boosted just for some extra precautions. So another 1.5 months or so of forever alone. Maybe will be able to do both of those mid-november or december.

Also have surgeries and follow ups for my chronic pain which need the iron to kick in first so basically October looks like it's gonna be hopefully getting some iron and then feeling it kick in after a week or so and then maybe by the end of the month having normal non-anemic iron levels and that's about it. With all the next health steps being in November.

Whatever, at this point 2022 was a lost cause. Worst year of my life easily. I can get just get my health back on track by the end of the year and have some covid protection, will put a lot of effort into making it up in 2023.

Sounds rough, hopefully you can get the iron issue figured out.

From people I've talked to that had the new COVID vaccine season pass, they all tell me the side effects were less severe than last time.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on September 30, 2022, 11:31:29 PM
Talking to therapist about my abandonment issues next week. It'll be hard communicating how I feel unloved or that I'm inherently unlovable. Well, I used to think that. Not anymore. But healing takes a while.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on September 30, 2022, 11:33:21 PM
Well I've made myself sick from the stress and anxiety of being on the phone half a day every day trying to get my iron infusions. Finally now after 6 weeks was told it was denied by my insurance, started looking at the costs of doing it cash without insurance, but then was told if I do new labs today maybe next week insurance would approve. Did a labs, but just been an exhausting mess.

Meanwhile I've been putting off my covid booster until I get my iron levels back since there's a decent amount of literature from the last couple of years that iron deficiency anemia greatly reduces the effectiveness of the covid vaccines.

Was looking up how long it takes for my iron to get fixed after I finally get the infusions and it looks like about 3 weeks on average. So should probably wait until that point to get my booster.

So if I can finally get my first of two iron infusions in a week with or without insurance, maybe I'll get boosted in like a month.

Holding off on dating or traveling right now until I get boosted just for some extra precautions. So another 1.5 months or so of forever alone. Maybe will be able to do both of those mid-november or december.

Also have surgeries and follow ups for my chronic pain which need the iron to kick in first so basically October looks like it's gonna be hopefully getting some iron and then feeling it kick in after a week or so and then maybe by the end of the month having normal non-anemic iron levels and that's about it. With all the next health steps being in November.

Whatever, at this point 2022 was a lost cause. Worst year of my life easily. I can get just get my health back on track by the end of the year and have some covid protection, will put a lot of effort into making it up in 2023.

Sounds miserable. Stay strong and hang on.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on October 13, 2022, 08:55:45 PM
And two weeks later, still don't have anything and debated today whether to go to the ER or try to hold out longer because so light-headed and light dizziness + headaches and heavy fatigue. Anemia stuff is kind of all over the place on when you need to go to the hospital, mostly when shortness of breath and irregular heartbeats. I'm generally ok on breathing still and using a finger pulse thing my pulse jumps around between 80-91 but that seems normal range especially considering the heavy stress and anxiety I've got going.

Let's see, here are all the medical fuckups in the last year for me:

Nov 21 - Started noticing Hemglobin starting to fall (men should be 13.2-16.6 or higher), started going under 13 and into the 12 range, doc says "nothing concerning"

Dec 21 -> May 22 (6 months) -> doc continues to say nothing concerning, but one of my other docs is concerned and orders and iron test, which shows my ferritin levels of iron are at like 11 and anything under 10 is considered pretty serious you need iron infused. Still at these levels in May 2022 I'm definitely considered to have mild Iron Deficiency Anemia and I'm at the point where an insurance would allow iron infusions and doctors would recommend them. Yet no doctor tells me this.

May 22/June 22/July 22 - Doc is busy and I'm in the middle of surgery and recovery and this gets sidetracked.

August 22 - Doc sees iron levels and goes - yeah, you should get iron infused, but don't worry if it takes some time getting through your insurance and setup, it's not dangerous.

August 19th-Sept 12th - Takes 3 fucking weeks to get the doctor note to my infusion doctor and them to submit the prescription order.

Sept 12th - Sept 27th - Take 2 fucking weeks for my infusion doctor's corporate office to approve the infusion and send it to my insurance

Sept 29th - Insurance denies it stating my 4.1 week old labs are too old and labs must be within the last 4 weeks showing anemia. I say ok, fuck this I will pay cash, I need these iron infusions done. But the infusion doctor's nurse says if I just go and get new labs it should go through the insurance on the 2nd try so I should do that first. I rush out and do new labs which now show ferritin lvl is down to 3.

October 5th - the infusion doctor auth person finally re-sends it with new labs.

October 7th - Insurance denies it a second time saying you have to state that you've tried oral iron supplements for 4 weeks and it hasn't work or you don't tolerate it. (I've tried oral iron and it doesn't work).

October 10th - Infusion doctor says because it's been denied twice needs to go through longer appeals process so faster to do a peer to peer call and provide the additional information about the 4 weeks of oral iron. Calls the peer 2 peer number and leaves detailed message. P2P says not to leave multiple messages.

October 12th - Insurance peer 2 peer hasn't called back, doctor leaves another message.

October 13th - Insurance peer 2 peer coordinate calls infusion doctor coordinator as says "we don't have the latest labs and doctors notes. Please fax them and I'll send them to the insurance clinical reviewer and they will call to set up a peer 2 peer call with the infusion doctor.

Meanwhile I'm getting weaker and weaker in fatigue and symptoms every week/day.

Finally today Oct 13th - I call the nurse and say I'm falling apart and on the fence of going to ER which will fuck me over of the dozens of thousands of dollars I'm sure, so it'll be cheaper to just pay cash and do it at your office. While the doc is trying to get the insurance to talk to them can we at least do a backup cash payment version so I can get on schedule instead of having to go through hoops in another week if the insurance says no.

And they get the cash discount payment amount and it's...not that much. Like I was expecting thousands of dollars, but it's like $1k and I'm like dude if I knew it was going to cost 1k I would have done this weeks ago. So we go ahead and set it up for mid next week.

So either the peer 2 peer happens and it gets insurance approved and covered and I do it next week, or I just pay $1k and do it anyhow and I can try to fight the insurance after for reimbursement because it really should be covered.

So now I just have to try to survive about a week without dying or doing so bad I need to go to the ER and get iron infused. Fingers crossed I can make it.


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Separately on top of all this, I get my main crohn's diseases immune-suppressant drug every 6 weeks for the last 13 years. My next infusion is scheduled for Tue Oct 11th and they call me last week on my birthday on Thursday Oct 6th and go "uhhh, we wanna save $$$ so we're changing everyone on this med to a biosimilar" and I'm like "yeah, let me check with my doctor to see if this is safe/practical" and after spending my entire birthday on the phone with docs and researching this stuff I get back to them on Friday and say "ok, fine, let's do this" and they go "ok, you should be fine for your Tuesday infusion"

Monday at like 4pm - They call and say "were cancelling your infusion tomorrow because we didn't have time to get authorization from your insurance for this new medication (even though I have authorization for the original and this is a biosimilar of it), we're asap on this and will have this in a day or two and you can do your infusion, check back on Wednesday

Wednesday afternoon - authorization person at my infusion doctor "uhh, we are on top of this and should have it by tomorrow, check then"

Thursday afternoon (today) - authorization person at my infusion doc "oh, because this new medication which WE FORCED YOU TO CHANGE TO 4 DAYS BEFORE YOUR NEXT INFUSION is a new mediation it has to go through a 1-2 week internal review and approval at our corporate. It just cleared that today, we'll get it to your insurance this afternoon and maybe we'll have approval tomorrow afternoon"

So...if they actually got it over this afternoon and if my insurance actually approves it, may be able to order it monday and do this infusion next tuesday which is 1 week late. All because they changed the medication on their own (and fwiw looking up biosimilars it seems like there's a 1/11 chance of the meds to stop working when changing to a biosimilar -_-, but my doc said every hospital/infusion place has switched to a biosimilar so there's no where I can even stay on my existing infusion med anymore so gotta go to a biosimilar which he said he's very comfortable with since most of the time people have no issues switching).


Anyhow, it's likely that like 50% of my symptoms are coming from the stress and anxiety of dealing with this every day which is exasperating my iron defiency anemia. I've barely been working and life has been total shit for a while. My main doc has fucked up by not even investigating my iron levels after 6 months of dropping red blood cells and then taking 3 weeks to even get an iron infusion order to my infusion doctor, my infusion doctor has fucked up by not submitting the right paperwork twice and lagging every step of the way and having a 2 week internal review delay before even submitting it to my insurance and my insurance has fucked up by not getting back on the peer 2 peer to resolve the issue. Just the american health system at work.


Out of all my doctors, the only doctor I have that is actually responsive and awesome at getting things done, where I call and actually get a real person who can do things and I can squeeze in and see my doc on pretty short notice, is my one doctor who is out of networks and doesn't take insurance and costs me like $300 out of pocket every time I see him for a 10 min follow up. Which sucks, but it's also ironic in that when you're not jumping through all the insurance hoops and just paying real money, you actually get good service and people treat you well and things move quick.

Reminds me of one time a few years ago I had a throat bleeding issue and none of the main hospital doctors could figure it out and then the above guy recommended some hot shot throat guy that works with voice actors and it was $800 cash for an appointment, but I was doing really bad and could barely talk, and I saw him for like 30 mins and he figured it out and the ironic thing being there was nothing to actually be done, a polyp on my vocal chord had naturally torn off on its own and the wound had become infected, but it had cleared on its own and it was just at the final stages of scabbing up and healing on its own. But was nice to actually find out what happened.




Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on October 13, 2022, 08:57:27 PM
Anyhow, tldr I should have both my crohn's meds and the iron infusion next week. So just gotta make it through this anemia for another week and then things should start to improve (although I read the first two weeks of an iron infusion can feel like the flu for 2 weeks straight while your body diverts everything to focus on converting the iron, but then should feel a lot better coming out of it and it shouldn't be dangerous, just shitty feeling).
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on October 13, 2022, 09:28:33 PM
I will pray for you daily Bebpo. I love you. Keep us updated.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on October 13, 2022, 10:04:17 PM
That sounds absolutely awful man. I really hope they get their shit together soon, this would be comical if it wasn't so frustrating. Honestly you should email your post to everyone involved just to spell it out, because that's fucking ridiculous.

Hope you feel better quickly. 🫂
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: benjipwns on October 14, 2022, 12:51:17 AM
Finally today Oct 13th - I call the nurse and say I'm falling apart and on the fence of going to ER which will fuck me over of the dozens of thousands of dollars I'm sure, so it'll be cheaper to just pay cash and do it at your office. While the doc is trying to get the insurance to talk to them can we at least do a backup cash payment version so I can get on schedule instead of having to go through hoops in another week if the insurance says no.

And they get the cash discount payment amount and it's...not that much. Like I was expecting thousands of dollars, but it's like $1k and I'm like dude if I knew it was going to cost 1k I would have done this weeks ago. So we go ahead and set it up for mid next week.

...

Out of all my doctors, the only doctor I have that is actually responsive and awesome at getting things done, where I call and actually get a real person who can do things and I can squeeze in and see my doc on pretty short notice, is my one doctor who is out of networks and doesn't take insurance and costs me like $300 out of pocket every time I see him for a 10 min follow up. Which sucks, but it's also ironic in that when you're not jumping through all the insurance hoops and just paying real money, you actually get good service and people treat you well and things move quick.
I think I posted a long time ago in this thread about discovering this personally when I had insurance gaps or stuff just not covered and I think it remains good advice for mental health stuff too, talk to doctors about just paying cash. What insurance gets charged creates an illusion that lots of these services would cost you a lot but... they don't. Especially if it's routine care and not something you need that often. Although even with stuff like prescriptions some of the discount cards (which are free) can make those super cheap too. When you can get a months supply of something for like $3, sometimes a co-pay can be more than this and your insurance might pay like $15 or more for it, it's nuts. :lol

Insurance companies, Medicare, etc. sign all these deals so they can just stamp through as much stuff as possible and nobody cares what it actually costs. Meanwhile, they'll get super anal about $100 over some $5000 procedure or something. My grandma broke her hip and they paid like $400 for some blankets or something at the hospital and were fighting with the hospital over the edges of some expensive charge in the actual surgery which delayed some other stuff and whether or not they'd pay for that (they did) until the came to agreement with the hospital.

Another good one is dentists since a lot of people don't get dental, if you aren't actually having serious problems with your teeth and just need a cleaning every six-months, it can be like $150 cash. Preventive care is important too!

And like you said, sometimes you don't even want to involve insurance you have because it's quicker and easier, I go in and out and pay online while other people are there with the receptionist and somebody is on the phone with insurance forever or something. Not saying insurance is bad (catastrophic insurance seems particularly good to me) but sometimes it might do to pretend you don't have it if you do because turning insurance into pre-payment plans was a stupid idea. Lots of places will do payment plans and stuff too. Good doctors want to help people after all.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on October 14, 2022, 02:09:56 AM
Bebpo, even a diet of salmon and spinach doesn't help with your iron levels? It doesn't absorb at all?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on October 14, 2022, 02:14:01 AM
Bebpo, even a diet of salmon and spinach doesn't help with your iron levels? It doesn't absorb at all?

Nah, I've been on a iron-rich diet for months. At best it's slowed down the iron loss. Idk. Will try to figure out the source of what's causing the iron loss next. My doctor thinks it might be a thyroid issue. Or it could be small bowel bacterial overgrowth (SIBO) which eats iron before you can absorb it. Or it might be from long-term use of PPI (proton pump inhibitors for acid reflux) or it could just be a long-term of having IBD/Crohn's and changes in ability to absorb iron. Because there's multiple possibilities (and could be something completely else), need to do various tests and stuff once I get my iron levels back to normal.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on October 14, 2022, 07:15:50 PM
And after my long vent yesterday and almost two full months of all my time spent on trying to get my iron going, both my iron and my crohn's meds got approved today so I will be doing both next week and can get started on my iron/red blood cells/anemia fixing.

I guess the trick to to vent.

Definitely a stress relief. Hopefully the side effects on the new meds are minimal and I start feeling a lot better in a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on October 14, 2022, 07:19:14 PM
I'm glad!
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on October 14, 2022, 07:28:03 PM
Speak, and sometimes the Universe will listen.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on October 14, 2022, 07:35:55 PM
Thanks for all the support  :heart
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on October 23, 2022, 08:37:46 PM
So I got my meds this week. Did surprisingly fine/better on my crohn's med with the new biosimilar since it normally throughs my GI out of whack for a few days, but this time on the biosimilar had basically no side effects.

Got the Iron on Thursday and around Friday night started feeling the side effects like getting a flu shot/covid vaccine and felt like pretty under the weather. Saturday was mostly the same and then I had an anxiety attack/depression day for the back half because about a week ago I noticed a bump on a lymph node above my collarbone on the right side and I looked it up and it said if you're over 40, any swelling of the supraclavicular lymph nodes is 90% chance of cancer because normally nothing should be swelling them and the right side drains esophagus and lungs so if it is cancer you're fucked. Anyhow I noticed it was still kinda swollen and a bit hard yesterday about 8 days later and had anxiety attack while also under the weather from the iron.

I was super depressed this morning because of all that, but I got past it and today I thankfully didn't feel under the weather from the iron and I actually felt pretty good, so I did some self-affirmations and went out hiking for the day to get out and change mindset and it was really nice. Feeling a lot better.

If my lymph node doesn't clear up in another couple of weeks I'll see my ENT but not gonna worry about it. I think the most likely explanation is that when I'm at my computer sometimes I tend to rest my left hand on the bottom of my throat/collarbone on that right side and with all the stress and anxiety I've been dealing with, I think I was probably rubbing the skin and the minor swelling of that lymph node is just from irritating it. I checked today and if I'm not like PRESSING HARD into my muscles to feel for it, I can't feel it, so I don't think it's materially swollen. It's just annoying that those nodes literally have a 90% cancer rate at over 40 and I'm ...41 :|  Also I've never noticed those lymph nodes at the bottom of my throat/above the collar before so it spooked me a bit. Plus the whole Iron Defeciency Anemia thing, which apparently most if most doctors see IDA with no apparent cause they start searching for cancer in the body causing internal bleeding somewhere. But Crohn's Disease can also cause IDA from inflammation not allowing decent iron absorption, and I have CD, so it's likely that, but still just something to keep an eye on, but gonna try not to stress on it.

Anyhow, looking forward to feeling better, getting my covid booster and getting back to dating. Ready to settle down in the near future. Never know how much time you've got left!
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Transhuman on October 24, 2022, 02:17:46 AM
Thinking of giving up veganism just to see if my complete apathy is a symptom or not. I wasn't exactly a bundle of joy before but at least I spoke to people, left my house, and felt emotions.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: chronovore on October 24, 2022, 02:27:30 AM
Why half-measures? Try eating other people and see if your energy level changes.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on October 24, 2022, 11:19:16 PM
Therapist and I have been working on trust lately. This was a very good lecture on it. One part talks about how a wounded inner child will change themselves to be accepted by others, a sort of chameleon. Sound familiar?

https://youtu.be/IKJPtpaNP2A

I really, really want to be able to trust people. All of my relationships are tied to the fact I don't trust anyone or anything. It's really deflating and isolating. I always assume someone has some hidden agenda and I'm sick of second guessing every person and every thing in my life some sort of Sherlock Holmes.

I have to say that this doctors youtube channel is fantastic. So many great videos on things I suffer from.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: james on October 25, 2022, 01:48:59 AM
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Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on October 26, 2022, 05:41:29 PM
Today's therapy sesh was :delicious

Therapist told me,"you've made so much progress in such a short time span. I'm proud of you!"

Really good session. :)
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: james on October 26, 2022, 05:50:26 PM
Today's therapy sesh was :delicious

Therapist told me,"you've made so much progress in such a short time span. I'm proud of you!"

Really good session. :)

Seems like the bore has really helped you out
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on October 26, 2022, 07:07:06 PM
Nah, you're all cunts. Well, most of you.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on January 16, 2023, 11:57:57 PM
Anyhow, I never really followed up from October.

The lumps on my neck never went away (not sure if I mentioned at the time but initially it was 1 lump and at some point it become 2 with the second one by its side being smaller) and it took me 1.5 months to get into my ENT to get them checked out for cancer. Then my ENT said "actually I'm not that kind of ENT" and said eh, I don't think they're cancerous lymph node lumps but it's not really my field and just to be safe I'll refer you to the right NECK ENT ...whose first available was another 2 months out (USA USA USA health system). I even got on the waitlist and everything in case people cancelled to no avail. The doc did say "well sometimes your body can just freak out and your lymph nodes get messed up and larger for no reason and there's nothing wrong"

Finally have my appointment on Monday. The lumps haven't really gotten any bigger since at least November or so. They'll be able to do an ultrasound of them in the appointment apparently and they'll be doing a vocal chord scope because if it's cancer, apparently getting bumps on the side of your neck most likely means vocal chords or thyroid. Both which if you catch them early enough apparently have pretty good survival rates though they also grow faster than other types of cancer.

Still been pretty anxious. My Gastrologist wanted me to check my Thyroid at some point because he thought it's one of the things that could have caused my iron deficiency anemia, and on the vocal chords, I did have a non-cancerous polyp on my vocal chords for years which would basically cause me to lose/cut out my voice if I talked too much in a day and would even bleed a bit when it did (which made work hard and I had to try to limit my calls per day). In 2018 or 2019 it suddenly tore off and vanished leaving a wound on my vocal chords which was horrible and I thought I was gonna die for a month or two while trying to get it diagnosed why I was coughing up blood from my vocal chords and felt tons of raw pain. But when I finally saw an expert they said the worst was over and it was pretty much healed up and other than some slight scarring everything looked fine. And it's true that I stopped having my voice cut out and I haven't had any bleeding from my vocal chords since. So I haven't had the area looked at since then. Also because I've been work from home since the pandemic I usually talk out loud less than 1 hour a day so I don't use my vocal chords that much so wouldn't notice if there's any issues that restarted.

I'm pretty sure this all has to do with having horrible GERD/acid reflux for decades and regular flare ups of weeks of acid burning and damaging my throat and vocal chords over time.

Just mentioning that because it does worry me that it could be a vocal chord thing again since I have a history of a non-cancerous polyp forming on them. Plus having GERD like I do doubles the chance of throat cancers in a lifetime.

I'll see on Monday.

My anxiety about this has been making me feel like I can't enjoy much because I'm worried I may not have a lot of time left and everything feels like a waste of time. It's causing me to re-examine my wants and start thinking about if I knew I was going to die in 6 months or 2 years, what would I do with my life?

Would getting in a relationship with one loving person be all I need? Probably not.
Would running around having sex with lots of people in short term flings make me happy as I go towards the end? Probably not. Fun for a bit but that's about it.
Would playing games feel like a waste of time? Probably.
Same with all other types of media.
But would creating some work of art to leave behind to the world make me happy and fulfilled? Not really.
Would traveling around the world seeing different cultures and eating different foods be enough? It'd be fun but would probably feel like wasting time that's left.

So I came to the realization that I think....nothing would make me happy and ok going towards my final amount of time. Which if you extrapolate that out further, even if I get lucky and don't have cancer, there's still only x amount of years left.

I guess this means at 41 going on 42 I've hit my midlife crises officially. I just have no idea what I want to do with my life to be fulfilled and satisfied with the time I have left.

Also I'm on schedule to have an experimental (but not dangerous) surgery the week after which may fix my chronic pain issues, but could also make things worse or do nothing. And the recovery will take a few weeks. So the next few weeks are a lot of nervousness of figure out if I have cancer or something going wrong, and having a surgery and seeing how things go. Definitely a reason games aren't doing much for me atm.

Will be in a different place for better or worse a month from now and can start to make some life planning/choices about what I want to do next. For now just trying not to stress about these next two weeks too much. A good friend once told me "if you can't do anything about it, don't waste time thinking or worrying about it" to which I am generally trying outside venting.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on January 17, 2023, 12:08:53 AM
Oh and I also got what seems like tendonitis in my achilles tendon a week or two ago from my daily jogging warm ups before working out and maybe from some jumping I do. I let it rest but it flared up again next time I jogged to warm up. The next morning after these workouts the back of my heel hurts every step I walk. It had mostly calmed down and then I didn't even jog but went on a 30 min walk and after like 5 mins every step hurt and then yeah the next day it's hurting again.

From what I'm reading I just gotta not go on walks/jog/jump for a week or two and really let it heal up fully while doing heel stretches and icing if  it's hurting. So I'm doing that. I love walking and usually walk miles every day when it's not raining so not being able to walk is a bummer.

But apparently if you keep flaring it up it can become chronic, so going to give it time to really rest and heal. But just another pain thing having to deal with while dealing with everything else which sucks.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: chronovore on January 17, 2023, 12:47:25 AM
Good luck and strength to you on encountering your midlife crisis. I met a guy who went through it at 30. He wasn't doing any of the  things he expected to be doing, and hadn't accomplished what he thought he'd do by that age.

I went through mine at 44. I went through a fairly extensive depression, then made some big changes and tried a few things. I'm still struggling with the larger question of meaning, but I'm grateful to still be trying to actively figure stuff out at 55 years old.

Kurt Vonnegut posits repeatedly in his speeches that the nature of "modern" life puts too much pressure on relationships. Every marriage is doomed if we expect that the spouse can fill the role of an entire community. Community is actually what humans are adapted around. We need different types of communication with different levels of intimacy. We probably even need people we don't like much, so we can focus outside ourselves.

A tribe's natural evolution was the neighborhood. But we moved away from knowing our neighbors and the people in our building or block, and instead focused on finding "the one" who can fulfill our needs.

It's impossible. We're not built that way.

The best option we have is to find our community, either through education, religion, group meetings around specific interests, or other activities.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on January 17, 2023, 12:59:55 AM
Yeah, I was thinking having a friend/family/relationship combo network is one of the most satisfying things.

Unfortunately since Covid I've been missing out on irl friend network. I probably need to work hard to try to re-establish that this spring.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on January 18, 2023, 04:09:37 AM
Bebpo, any updates?

I can't offer much besides prayer and hope. I pray everything is alright and it's not cancer.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on January 20, 2023, 08:25:57 PM
Had my AC guy out because my heat pump was having issues. Brand new AC/heat unit I put it on the roof in 2020 after my last one failed 10 years in (they're supposed to last 25 years).

Turns out my guy found some stuff in my 2.5 year old AC unit that he's never seen in his 20 years of 1,000s of AC units. Good chance it's mold since when the AC blows it's smelly/musty and leaving standing water out while the AC is blowing the water gets mildew smelling after 10 mins or so.

Basically I've been breathing in 24/7 some strain of mold for at least a year if not 2 years+. I've had tons and tons of health issues, some weird, some random since around spring 2021. Who knows if any of it could be related. I've been wanting to move since 2019, this sucks.

Even testing for mold is not...quick. Have to wait for the guy to come back next week and do the test, which then takes 48 hours and then if mold grows in the sample try it has to be mailed to a lab who figures out what kind of mold it is and then gives the results. So could be 1-2 weeks until we know. Then will know what the next step is. If it's not toxic/dangerous stuff he'll spray it with bleach and kill it and put in a UV light and expand the ducts for better airflow to prevent it coming back. If it's something bad, will have to call the major toxic removal people.

Meanwhile I'm trying to figure out if I have respitory cancer...smh

Even if I went and bought a house this weekend it'd be in escrow for a month and I wouldn't move that soon. Plus making a major life purchase like that on time pressure is bad. Plus about to go into surgery and surgery recovery.

I could go live in a hotel for a month until we figure out the mold. Or I just figure I've been breathing this shit in for 1-2 years, what difference will another month make.

I think running the heater may be safe. When I run the heater it doesn't smell or make my standing water smell funny. So I think the heat does kill the mold whatever it is. And it's not like I'm going to be running the AC until late spring. So I think it's probably ok to stay here and keep using the heater. Idk, it all sucks. I'm having a bad life right now. Can't even think about getting back to hobbies or making games or dating or making friends. Just busy trying to not die.

Bebpo, any updates?

I can't offer much besides prayer and hope. I pray everything is alright and it's not cancer.

Thanks, will know more after doc appoint on Monday.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on January 20, 2023, 09:57:21 PM
My recommendation: get a hotel. When my family had mold we had them killing it in the house for months and we temporarily lived with grandma and grandpa. It's either stay at a hotel or stay with your folks. Whatever it is, do it quick and do it now. Do not delay.

Thanks Bebpo. I will continue to pray. It's good we found out about the AC. Now let's make steps to making that better. One thing at a time.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on January 21, 2023, 03:35:36 PM
Putting an offer on a house. Coincidentally found a good one after two years of searching. Probably a bidding war though so who knows.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on January 21, 2023, 05:29:55 PM
Congratulations. I plan on getting a house this year myself.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on January 23, 2023, 11:12:26 AM
Keep us updated on your appointment today buddy.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on January 23, 2023, 02:34:52 PM
Keep us updated on your appointment today buddy.

All clear.

Doctor did ultrasounds and took a look and said I had two enlarged lymph nodes on the side of my neck, but they were healthy and still within the normal limits and if they hadn't gotten any bigger since I noticed them, it's fine.

They said, just like how people can get a streak of white hair from high stress, a high stress event or virus or injury can cause your lymph nodes to change size and they can be like that for a short or long while and then shrink, or they can just permanently be like that. But it's not a dangerous thing.

Plus they looked all around my neck/throat/vocal chords and everything looked clear and fine. Said some of my lower neck soreness when doing push-ups sometimes is from muscle strain in my neck muscles from working out and no big deal.

Definitely a good relief. Can be less depressed now. Now just gotta hope my surgery goes well. Doc had to reschedule it to mid-February, so not super soon.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on January 23, 2023, 02:43:42 PM
You've got some relief! One thing down and off the list. Tackle the list one at a time! Go Bebpo!

Any updates on your living situation? Did you move to the 'rents or check into a hotel?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on January 23, 2023, 03:14:31 PM
Any updates on your living situation? Did you move to the 'rents or check into a hotel?

Only possible mold issue is when running the AC/Heater unit. No mold in the house itself. Aired out the house for a day, and then just living log cabin style without heat. Haven't turned on the AC/Heater/Fan unit since then.

Though after a few days of making breakfast in my 59f kitchen and sleeping in my similarly cold bedroom and working while my feet are ice cold I borrowed some space heaters from friends and family and they're actually working pretty well for my computer/tv room and bedroom. Kitchen still cold as fuck, but I can live with it for a few weeks or month until this is all worked out.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on January 25, 2023, 01:37:22 AM
Got my latest blood results and my Iron levels which shot up dramatically and took me out of 6-12 months of living with anemia, are already crashing hard and at this rate a month from now I'll be anemic again :\

Feels like with health stuff, it just is never ending. Need to do all the various testing to try to figure out why I can't absorb iron at all. And will almost assuredly need to do another iron infusion in a month or two. Which sucks because while it worked great, it was basically like being sick for two weeks straight while your body runs in overdrive and converts the iron. If I only get like 3-4 months out of it, that's not great.

So now I gotta figure out the timing with my surgery. Because will probably be hitting anemia right around when I'm recovering from that. Fingers crossed a bit later so I can do the surgery, recover, then do the iron infusion and be sick for two weeks and hopefully have identified the cause and be able to stop it from falling off so much again this time.

My ferritin (iron stores) were like 5 last year and anything below 30 is bad and you need an IV infusion of iron. Normal range is 38-300. 7 weeks after my iron infusion I jumped from 5 -> 99 ferritin. But now 6 weeks from that I fell from 99 -> 50 ferritin.

It really doesn't seem like it's being caused by my crohn's disease because I don't have any active inflammation showing in my intestines. Also doesn't seem like it's from cancer/internal bleeding because none of that has shown either. From google it really seems like there's only a few other things that could be causing me to be completely unable to absorb iron:

-Celiac Disease (gluten inflammation of small intestines) - Would need to go on a gluten-free diet.
-Thyroid issues of not producing enough hormones and apparently it messes with your stomach acid and absorption of iron - Would need to take hormone pills
-Small Bowl Bacterial Overgrowth (SIBO) - bacteria in your small intestine steals and eats all the incoming iron before your body can absorb it - Would need to be on a rotation of antibiotics and diet changes
-Long term damage from PPI (anti-acids) messing with your acid levels and ability to absorb iron - would need to taper off the anti-acid med I've been on for 20 years for my acid reflux

I'm hoping it's a thyroid issue because that seems the easiest to treat and recover from if it's just an extra pill to add to my list of pills I gotta take daily. Waiting for my doc to give me a lab order for a thyroid/hormone test.

Pretty bummed about all this. Was so depressed and tired and fatigued last year on anemia and really not looking forward to falling into that even for a short term again. Keep wanting to be done with all this health stuff so I can get back to living my life. First was the surgery I had last year and recovery, then was the anemia last year until I got my iron infusions, then was these swollen lymph nodes on my neck that took 4 months to get to the right doctor and check and see that they weren't cancer, then it's another surgery and recovery I gotta go through, and then it'll be another iron infusion and time figuring out what's causing the iron issues and treating that.

I just want to get back to feeling normal and being able to go do things with people and travel and go on dates. It just feels never ending medical issues.

I knew the iron infusion wasn't going to last forever, since we never figured out the underlying cause of the iron deficiency, but from what I read and people's experiences with iron infusions, was really hoping it'd last at least 6 months if not a full year before had to look into iron infusions again. Not like getting near anemia levels again after 3 months  :-\
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on January 25, 2023, 06:11:54 AM
Can you get tested for celiac?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on January 25, 2023, 02:17:45 PM
Yeah, there are pretty good easy tests for Celiac and Hormones.

SIBO is diagnosed with this breath test that I've been meaning to do since last fall but it's a pain in the ass because the only place that does it is a 90 min drive away, you have to fast for 1.5 days before the test, and then breath into a bag for like 2-3 hours straight. I had it scheduled last fall but I didn't realize I was supposed to fast the day before so I had to cancel it.

Will be getting all the testing done. Hopefully can figure it out. 25% of people with Crohn's test positive for SIBO, having low iron can cause hypothyroidism where you don't make enough hormones because your thyroid needs iron to function properly and I had no iron for like most of 2022, and I have a blood related aunt that has celiac disease and is on gluten-free for life...soooo basically could be anything! But at least these are all testable things.

Just need to get the tests done, get one more iron infusion in a month or two when I fall into anemia level and hopefully fix the issue before the next blast of iron starts to fall off too much. It's doable, and it's not going to kill me, but it's just frustrating. Getting the insurance to authorize my iron infusion last time over 6 weeks was incredibly stressful, so hopefully the doctors can start on getting the authorizations soon so when I do need the iron infusion I have the insurance authorization to do it ez pz.

Also fingers crossed the recovery from my surgery in a few weeks is light so I can recover quick and move to the next stuff I've got to do. The surgeon says it will be, but also depends on what he finds when I'm under anesthesia and what he needs to cut and do.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on February 08, 2023, 01:50:07 PM
Ok, survived another surgery. In a lot of pain but it’s tolerable and picking up pain meds for the week.
Hope this works.

On figuring out my iron loss/anemia:

Thyroid test = normal
Small Bowel Bacteria Overgrowth test = normal but only 45-55% accuracy and there’s a second test needed to rule it out
Celiac disease test = did test yesterday, should have results in a day or so.

If Celiac is normal/negative, doctor will refer me to a Hematologist because it must be some weird rare thing since all the normal stuff that would cause inability to absorb iron or enough blood loss to constantly be using up all iron is seemingly negative and it’s a mystery :spooky ghost

Next blood test is in a month and we’ll see if I’m anemic again, in which case it’s time to try to get another iron infusion approved.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on February 08, 2023, 11:08:56 PM
Rest up buddy
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: chronovore on February 09, 2023, 06:09:18 PM
We're all pulling for you, Bebsy.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on February 13, 2023, 10:20:36 PM
Why is it the big shitty things sink in slowly and don't really bother you, but the little shitty things just send you over the edge?

Fucking broke but I have lots of room on two credit cards. Oh wait, they expired and got sent to my sister's address in MA since I've been waiting to get out of my parents' in CT before I update my address. Oh, guess she didn't even receive them in the mail anyways.

Maybe I'll play same Monster Hunter, I haven't really gamed in months, maybe that'll cheer me up. Oh wait, my Pro Controller is fucking dead.

Mom's dementia and memory loss has gotten sharply worse since I've come back.

I haven't dated in 4 years and honestly at this point I've idealized my next romantic partner so much literally no one can ever clear that bar. I have access to 5% of the population and gays don't give a shit about monogamy so no hope there.

The only reason I've been working so hard for so long is to get my own place. Found out today I probably can't even do that.

My YouTube Premium expired 5 minutes ago. I have the family plan so now my entire family knows I'm goddamn broke and they have to watch ads now. I FUCKING HATE ADS

7 days a week and I can't even pay myself. What the fuck is the point of living
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: benjipwns on February 13, 2023, 10:27:49 PM
What the fuck is the point of living
Getting likes on The Bire for your good posts.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Transhuman on February 13, 2023, 10:37:33 PM
That's rough Tasty, I hope someday you're able to move out and you find a guy that actually wants a relationship and that your mom dies and you have enough money to pay for YouTube premium.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on February 13, 2023, 10:40:08 PM
My crown fell off my molar three days ago, had to wait until today, finally went to a dentist, in person... Got shoo'd out the door, "Call us back after our lunch break in an hour."

Like what the fuck. Instead of calling I went home and took a six hour nap. Dreams are better than this
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: chronovore on February 13, 2023, 10:41:16 PM
You are gay and you care about monogamy. There are others out there like you, and they are more likely to share your values than other gays, who do not believe in monogamy.

I’m sorry to hear work is still garbage and keeping you way too busy, and I’m sorry to hear about money troubles. It sounds incredibly stressful.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on February 13, 2023, 10:42:11 PM
That's rough Tasty, I hope someday you're able to move out and you find a guy that actually wants a relationship and that your mom dies and you have enough money to pay for YouTube premium.

I can't tell if this is sarcastic or not, but the implication that it is was enough, you broke me.

Goodbye Bore. You can keep the extensions.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Transhuman on February 13, 2023, 10:44:07 PM
?? You're one of the only people here I like Tasty, I was just trying to make you laugh

You don't have to go. If you tell me you want me to leave the site and never come back, I will
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: BIONIC on February 13, 2023, 10:44:43 PM
Transhuman you’re fired
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on February 13, 2023, 11:09:47 PM
Rename Transhuman to Trashhuman please.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on February 13, 2023, 11:11:44 PM
Tasty please take a break and come back when you're ready. Hopefully things get better. I'll pm you elsewhere to check on you. :heartbeat

?? You're one of the only people here I like Tasty, I was just trying to make you laugh

You don't have to go. If you tell me you want me to leave the site and never come back, I will

In what way is telling someone you hope their mom dies when they're clearly distraught over her dementia making jokes?

Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on February 13, 2023, 11:12:53 PM
Bebpo how are you recuperating after your surg?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: demi on February 13, 2023, 11:13:35 PM
That's rough Tasty, I hope someday you're able to move out and you find a guy that actually wants a relationship and that your mom dies and you have enough money to pay for YouTube premium.

That is probably the worst possible thing you could followup with after that. Holy shit you are brain dead and tone deaf. Go back to Reset please
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: benjipwns on February 13, 2023, 11:45:02 PM
Tasty's not allowed to leave, who's going to unlock the Witching Hour thread for us? And DC Comic post with me? And be one of the only other Bire members with a computer on Linux?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on February 13, 2023, 11:51:25 PM
nobody leaves without sucking my hog!
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: james on February 14, 2023, 12:02:24 AM
My YouTube Premium expired 5 minutes ago. I have the family plan so now my entire family knows I'm goddamn broke and they have to watch ads now. I FUCKING HATE ADS

Get a free ad blocker my bro and join us with free ad-free videos of twitch drama
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Nintex on February 14, 2023, 02:39:15 PM
Why is it the big shitty things sink in slowly and don't really bother you, but the little shitty things just send you over the edge?

Fucking broke but I have lots of room on two credit cards. Oh wait, they expired and got sent to my sister's address in MA since I've been waiting to get out of my parents' in CT before I update my address. Oh, guess she didn't even receive them in the mail anyways.

Maybe I'll play same Monster Hunter, I haven't really gamed in months, maybe that'll cheer me up. Oh wait, my Pro Controller is fucking dead.

Mom's dementia and memory loss has gotten sharply worse since I've come back.

I haven't dated in 4 years and honestly at this point I've idealized my next romantic partner so much literally no one can ever clear that bar. I have access to 5% of the population and gays don't give a shit about monogamy so no hope there.

The only reason I've been working so hard for so long is to get my own place. Found out today I probably can't even do that.

My YouTube Premium expired 5 minutes ago. I have the family plan so now my entire family knows I'm goddamn broke and they have to watch ads now. I FUCKING HATE ADS

7 days a week and I can't even pay myself. What the fuck is the point of living
Tackle one problem at a time and in this case I would start with the 7 days of working and not making ends meet.

Usually a fresh new perspective can help to make the business prosper again. Late last year our creative director suddenly quit. I was left with a bunch of unfinished projects right before the holiday season and half-baked work that went return to sender. I barely had time for anything but work and I couldn't really celebrate our ~15% profit increase.

Everyone sort of expected I would just replace him with a new hire who would then build a new design team but instead I completely changed our direction. He was doing some things just for the sake of doing things, they weren't profitable and no one really liked doing them. He also couldn't really change things because he was already overworked doing the work he felt he 'had to do' and he had fired designers that he felt weren't good enough or as good as him. In the end it was just him, an intern and another designer. His team was responsible for 50% of our revenue but made only marginal profits. So the first thing I did when he quit was to integrate the design team into the development team and cut all design-only services. Design always has to be part of a development project.   

In about 4 months our positioning has improved a lot as we're no longer chasing every penny but are instead focused and specialized.
The bar for other companies to hire us for specific development work is much lower as they no longer have to worry that we will also compete for the adwords campaigns, social media posts or want to take over a bunch of IT stuff.
However unlike other 'just development' teams we also include high quality design by default. Because our teams and processes are now integrated this is much more efficient and far less risky than hiring a seperate designer.

I've introduced a new directive this month that for each new 'high value' client we sign an old 'low value' client has to go. Eventually replacing all the clients we'd rather not have with better clients.
It was a big gamble and it took a while for everyone to understand the new direction but it is really starting to resonate.

People are starting to say to me that it's probably for the best that our creative director quit and I was quite surprised by that but it is true that I wouldn't have been able to implement these radical changes with him still around. :doge
The only solution he could think about was 'charge more' for the same low value things.

Fixing all this meant losing about 10 maybe 20 opportunities at the start of this year that I would've been happy with a year ago. But now we're starting to get much better opportunities and I can work on my health.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on February 14, 2023, 08:26:12 PM
Wishing you the best Tasty.

Bebpo how are you recuperating after your surg?

 :larry

Getting better with some ups and downs. No fun for sure. And these pain meds I got must be like extremely low dosage because they really did less than just some extra strength tylenol.

Yesterday I actually got some work done and errands and stuff, but today too much pain and moved everything I wanted to do today to tomorrow's plan and took some tylenol and tried to sleep through as long as I could. Awake now but yeah, pain. Too out of it to accomplish anything today, even playing some games or something probably.

Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on February 15, 2023, 05:01:15 PM
Having a really hard time today. This is the first time in a while I just feel against the wall mentally. I wish I could get a hug and be told things will be better but I've learned no one's coming, and it's best to just express this to my therapist. I have a lot of regret in how I've treated people in theast few years. I've kind of given up on making friends and stuff because I know I'll eventually do something to make them hate me. I've tried to people please my whole life; doesn't work. Living for yourself gets people mad at you so that doesn't work. It feels that no matter what you do you're alone in this. I know I have my quirks and I'm really hard to like. I've kind of lost my fear of death. Even being in my 30's it feels like I've lived a long time. I'm not suicidal or anything but I think I'm ready for life to end and I'm fine when it happens.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on February 15, 2023, 05:08:41 PM
nobody leaves without sucking my fat hog  :wag
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Uncle on February 15, 2023, 05:21:50 PM
man  :gloomy

I don't usually click onto this thread, I will be sad if Tasty doesn't come back...seeing what he was saying, I wish I could talk to him via PM  :(


as much as Transhuman made a mistake, I also feel really bad for him, because I completely identify with having that sense of humor that sometimes says the exact wrong horrible thing, when you wanted to relieve tension but didn't quite do it correctly, and that feeling that wells up inside you when you realize how thoroughly you fucked up, and you wish you could take it back and fix it

maybe I shouldn't put words in his mouth that he didn't express but I just mean that's how I would be feeling


and I hope Himu starts feeling better too and finds someone to hang out with
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: BIONIC on February 15, 2023, 05:27:16 PM
nobody leaves without sucking my fat hog  :wag

Did you suck your own fat hog before your last hiatus? :ufup
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Nintex on February 15, 2023, 05:38:06 PM
Having a really hard time today. This is the first time in a while I just feel against the wall mentally. I wish I could get a hug and be told things will be better but I've learned no one's coming, and it's best to just express this to my therapist. I have a lot of regret in how I've treated people in theast few years. I've kind of given up on making friends and stuff because I know I'll eventually do something to make them hate me. I've tried to people please my whole life; doesn't work. Living for yourself gets people mad at you so that doesn't work. It feels that no matter what you do you're alone in this. I know I have my quirks and I'm really hard to like. I've kind of lost my fear of death. Even being in my 30's it feels like I've lived a long time. I'm not suicidal or anything but I think I'm ready for life to end and I'm fine when it happens.
Apart from me and filler there's about 8 billion people in the world left to eventually piss off.

Friends come and go I believe the average cycle is about 8 - 10 years. I've been friends with people from childhood and I've been friends with people for a few months just because we hit the same bars.
Friendships are different as we get older but that doesn't mean they're less important. I didn't end all of those friendships on the right note, but you know what neither did they.

Also it's not strange that we feel like we've lived a long life. I mean, our generation had a crazy ride with transformational changes.
When we were born the internet was just a way for defense contractors to exchange ascii art of boobs and videogames were made out of boredom by scientists. Now most of the economy is digital and videogames are the biggest entertainment industry in the world.
Just look at how fucked up the boomers are and all they had to worry about was the tail end of Vietnam and the Cold War(there wasn't even any shooting) and some oil thing with the Saudi's back in the 80's.
Boomers just had to do what their dads did, my line of work didn't even exist when I was born and will probably not be of any use 50 years from now because of AI advancements.

If I was given a dollar everytime something happens that is only supposed to happen once every 100 or 1000 years I'd be a rich boomer.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on February 15, 2023, 07:09:22 PM
man  :gloomy

I don't usually click onto this thread, I will be sad if Tasty doesn't come back...seeing what he was saying, I wish I could talk to him via PM  :(


as much as Transhuman made a mistake, I also feel really bad for him, because I completely identify with having that sense of humor that sometimes says the exact wrong horrible thing, when you wanted to relieve tension but didn't quite do it correctly, and that feeling that wells up inside you when you realize how thoroughly you fucked up, and you wish you could take it back and fix it

maybe I shouldn't put words in his mouth that he didn't express but I just mean that's how I would be feeling


and I hope Himu starts feeling better too and finds someone to hang out with
as the great american philosopher patrice o'neal always said, "Funny and unfunny come from the same exact place" and to paraphrase "... I don't defend the unfunny joke itself, I defend the attempt"
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on February 15, 2023, 07:10:34 PM
nobody leaves without sucking my fat hog  :wag

Did you suck your own fat hog before your last hiatus? :ufup
I never left. I've been posting with my alt the entire time  8)
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: BIONIC on February 15, 2023, 07:29:44 PM
nobody leaves without sucking my fat hog  :wag

Did you suck your own fat hog before your last hiatus? :ufup
I never left. I've been posting with my alt the entire time  8)

 :ohhh

Your Himu posting has been your greatest piece of performance art yet :bow :bow2
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on February 20, 2023, 06:47:17 PM
Doing really good now.

Been talking to my therapist about how I used to be a creepy guy. Pornography addiction, high functioning autism, and alcoholism isn't a good combination. I've really hurt and scared a lot of women often unknowingly and no one caused it except myself. It stems from a lot of things from being sexually assaulted to women to other things but at the end of the day those are just excuses. The worst of it showed up when I started to go down a red pill dating rabbit hole for relationship tips which pushed me to my worst excesses. Owning up to my behavior and being forthcoming about my relationship with women has been helpful. I cannot really change the past but I can change my behavior going forward by respecting boundaries and not being a shitty person.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Bebpo on February 20, 2023, 11:33:37 PM
Happy for you Himu!
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on February 21, 2023, 02:21:32 AM
Thank you. Allah is guiding me.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: HardcoreRetro on February 21, 2023, 08:53:49 AM
Is anyone here close to Tasty and has checked up on him?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on February 21, 2023, 09:04:41 AM
Is anyone here close to Tasty and has checked up on him?

I've sent him pms here and elsewhere. Nothing.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on March 03, 2023, 07:24:27 PM
I got no responses from Tasty but I contacted his sister and asked how he's doing. She says he's super busy but fine. So we got our update. Told her to give him a big hug and to maybe do something special for him
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: james on March 03, 2023, 08:52:13 PM
How does one go about contacting Tastys sister
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on March 03, 2023, 10:52:44 PM
How does one go about contacting Tastys sister

Not being James I guess or maybe build a 10+ year friendship with someone and know how to contact them and their loved ones if need be.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on March 03, 2023, 11:59:29 PM
As for me I'm doing so good. Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala is the greatest and most merciful. My soul is just throwing up junk every day and taking away what's bad and what God doesn't want for me. Praise Him! It's all to prepare for Ramadan I'm sure! I'm really feeling positive about my future and believe in God's vision.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on March 18, 2023, 11:23:00 AM
Tasty spotted on IG. He looks good. :)
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on March 22, 2023, 02:41:04 AM
it's okay to be gay, himu. we love you, we accept you. you are exactly enough as you are.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on March 22, 2023, 10:40:27 AM
No I'm not gay :lol

I'm bi at best.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on March 22, 2023, 03:09:20 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on April 05, 2023, 05:19:38 AM
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Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: BIONIC on April 05, 2023, 05:31:13 AM
So sorry to hear that, buddy. We’re here for you.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on April 05, 2023, 05:44:16 AM
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Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: james on April 05, 2023, 10:34:01 AM
So sorry to hear this Filler, I hope you're doing ok. We're here for you.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Transhuman on April 05, 2023, 10:55:11 AM
When moms die it's sad
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on April 05, 2023, 01:24:22 PM
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Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on April 05, 2023, 02:55:10 PM
May Allah subhanahu wa ta'la grant you ease during this time of hurt and heartbreak, pain and powerlessness. Ameen. Inna Lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un. Are you alone? Do you have family support?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: who is ted danson? on April 05, 2023, 04:52:31 PM
so sorry filler :(
we all love you bud
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Nintex on April 05, 2023, 07:16:17 PM
 :cry
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on April 06, 2023, 12:39:33 AM
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Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 08, 2023, 08:07:09 AM
How are you holding up? Still with the family?
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on April 08, 2023, 07:47:24 PM
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Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: BIONIC on April 09, 2023, 05:53:27 AM
Keep luxurious locks or be able to afford food?

(https://y.yarn.co/05d49b86-6acb-4017-9d66-b891cec3d563_text.gif)
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Potato on April 09, 2023, 07:32:34 AM
Shit, i guess I should check in on this thread more often. Lots of stuff I missed with my fellow boreans.

@Filler, my deepest condolences. Spend time with family and take your time deciding what's best for you. If it's any help, I had long hair when I was younger and agonised over cutting it when I was entering the workforce. I miss the hair, but love my job. If I had my time again, I'd make the same decision.

@Tasty, I hope you read this. You're gonna be ok. Take some time for yourself now and then. Come back here when you are ready. If you need a new pro controller, send me a PM and I'll buy it for you.

@Trashy, sometimes it's difficult to make humour stick in these moments. I, for one, think thebore is a lesser place without you and I've missed your posting here. Send me a PM if you need to and let me know if you're in Brisbane any time soon. We can grab lunch, my shout.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Propagandhim on April 09, 2023, 11:43:39 AM
Sorry about mama, Filler.  *hugs*  She looks beautiful and well-taken care of in those pics.  I'm sure she appreciated you for that.

regarding your dog: I had to put my dog down about a month ago, so I know what that's like.  If you need to talk, I'm around.   
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Rahxephon91 on April 10, 2023, 01:10:28 AM
I doubt I'm depressed, but I just have no passion or excitement for anything anymore.

Things, media, whatever that use to excitement me do nothing and I think most new things are boring and lame. I really don't want to become some nostlgia ridden boomer, but just nothing does anything for me.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Rufus on April 10, 2023, 06:40:09 AM
I doubt I'm depressed, but I just have no passion or excitement for anything anymore.

Things, media, whatever that use to excitement me do nothing and I think most new things are boring and lame. I really don't want to become some nostlgia ridden boomer, but just nothing does anything for me.
Anhedonia, bruv. Common symptom of depression, but can be caused by other things.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: chronovore on April 10, 2023, 01:09:01 PM
Sorry for your loss, Filler. Losing a parent is always hard.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on April 18, 2023, 11:40:06 PM
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Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: BIONIC on April 19, 2023, 12:04:25 AM
I hope you manage to get the job :goty
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Potato on April 19, 2023, 02:39:09 AM
Chin up filler. You are strong enough to get through this.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: BisMarckie on April 19, 2023, 07:04:13 AM
So sorry to hear this filler, can't really think of anything to post other than that.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Tasty on April 19, 2023, 06:14:15 PM
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Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Uncle on April 19, 2023, 06:22:03 PM
Tasty, I haven't really gotten embroiled in the bore meetups stuff like a lot of longtime people around here seem to have done in the past, and I don't really know you, but every time I saw a post of yours I was like that's a cool level headed dude

I hope things are getting better for you, or at least not too much worse
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on April 21, 2023, 04:58:27 PM
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Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 22, 2023, 04:45:16 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCiYmCVikjo
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on April 25, 2023, 05:24:11 AM
Things aren't good now but God will stand by me and I'll pull through.

I think for the first time in my life I am ready to die and it's really peaceful feeling. I don't suspect I will live long. As long as I can work on my arts legacy and be as good as I can to people I think I'll be fine. Allah is the only friend I need. :bow
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: james on April 25, 2023, 11:20:50 AM
Things aren't good now but God will stand by me and I'll pull through.

I think for the first time in my life I am ready to die and it's really peaceful feeling. I don't suspect I will live long. As long as I can work on my arts legacy and be as good as I can to people I think I'll be fine. Allah is the only friend I need. :bow

Now hold on Himu, your redemption arc ends with you happy not dead. Keep your chin up.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Potato on April 25, 2023, 04:44:27 PM
Things aren't good now but God will stand by me and I'll pull through.

I think for the first time in my life I am ready to die and it's really peaceful feeling. I don't suspect I will live long. As long as I can work on my arts legacy and be as good as I can to people I think I'll be fine. Allah is the only friend I need. :bow
Nah dude, there's always something to look forward to. Get through this and out the other side and I promise you there will be better times ahead. If this is as bad as it gets, then that means it will only get better.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on April 25, 2023, 05:31:00 PM
Things aren't good now but God will stand by me and I'll pull through.

I think for the first time in my life I am ready to die and it's really peaceful feeling. I don't suspect I will live long. As long as I can work on my arts legacy and be as good as I can to people I think I'll be fine. Allah is the only friend I need. :bow
Nah dude, there's always something to look forward to. Get through this and out the other side and I promise you there will be better times ahead. If this is as bad as it gets, then that means it will only get better.

I was in the ER and now have a $2000 bill. The school I got into needs $500 deposit to secure my place by May 1 and I don't have the money because of the ER situation. I don't know what to do.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Potato on April 25, 2023, 10:16:38 PM
Things aren't good now but God will stand by me and I'll pull through.

I think for the first time in my life I am ready to die and it's really peaceful feeling. I don't suspect I will live long. As long as I can work on my arts legacy and be as good as I can to people I think I'll be fine. Allah is the only friend I need. :bow
Nah dude, there's always something to look forward to. Get through this and out the other side and I promise you there will be better times ahead. If this is as bad as it gets, then that means it will only get better.

I was in the ER and now have a $2000 bill. The school I got into needs $500 deposit to secure my place by May 1 and I don't have the money because of the ER situation. I don't know what to do.
Call the school and advise them of your situation. See if there is anything they can do to help you.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on April 26, 2023, 11:59:21 AM
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Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Propagandhim on April 26, 2023, 12:27:17 PM
I'm sorry, Filler... :(
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: james on April 26, 2023, 12:45:49 PM
 :fbm
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: who is ted danson? on April 26, 2023, 03:32:05 PM
filler  :(
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on April 26, 2023, 04:00:49 PM
So sorry Filler :tocry
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: team filler on April 26, 2023, 05:27:23 PM
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Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Uncle on April 26, 2023, 05:44:48 PM
 :gloomy
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on April 27, 2023, 10:18:18 AM
School increased my scholarship amount and let me extend the deadline yay

Sorry about your loss, Filler. :(
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: james on April 27, 2023, 11:13:35 AM
School increased my scholarship amount and let me extend the deadline yay

Sorry about your loss, Filler. :(

Great news
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Propagandhim on April 27, 2023, 11:31:29 AM
Filler, as I mentioned -- I'm in the same boat.  I lost my dog of 15 years very recently.  He was my best bud and I loved him so, so much.  But I always remind myself that this is a good opportunity to rescue another dog that really needs a home.  You mentioned you needed good things to start happening - extending yourself to others, especially animals that need a loving home, is a really gratifying, good thing.     I have no doubt you gave that pup the best life, and you have a lot more to give when time heals the wound.  Hope you feel better, I know it hurts, brother.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: james on April 27, 2023, 01:33:20 PM
https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1651622555688796160
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on April 27, 2023, 09:50:38 PM
https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1651622555688796160

It's an inverse of this.

(https://i.imgur.com/MuM0NNr.png)
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on May 12, 2023, 11:12:33 PM
Going on sabbatical. I feel really great and really keyed/locked in. Definitely know what matters and what doesn't, and it's myself above all else. Working two jobs to save money for NYC. Hustle is life.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on August 13, 2023, 08:02:49 PM
First time in a few months when I've really been suicidal and lonely. I managed to push it down and just being around others and having positive energy really helped. I admit the cynic in me makes it hard to be that all the time, and as a human being it's an impossible demand, but getting better at social skills is a lot like riding a bike.
Title: Re: Depression/mental health thread
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2023, 02:29:22 AM
https://www.everydayhealth.com/bipolar-disorder-pictures/biggest-triggers-of-bipolar-mood-swings.aspx

I think I'm going through a depression mood right now. It's really hard. I've spent the entire night crying and I can't fucking stop.