The giant horde of Dothraki on Westerosi soil with a dragon flying overhead has been the dream since 1995.yup
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fuck george r r martin
:snoop
Benioff and Weiss claim to have sworn off reading commentary about the show, good or bad. When I visit them in Los Angeles in March, they’re writing the next and final season. I peek into a fridge in a lounge area in their offices, a room dominated by a Thrones-branded pinball machine Weiss proudly points out, to find three cases of beer with Westeros-themed labels, low-calorie ranch dressing and yellow mustard. At this point, they have full outlines of the final six episodes. In fact, they’ve been working on the very last episode, possibly the most anticipated finale since Hawkeye left Korea. “We know what happens in each scene,” says Weiss.
The fact that they know is remarkable considering the show will reach its conclusion long before the books. The last new Thrones novel came out in 2011, the year the show began. The author describes his next installment, the sixth of seven, as “massively late.” “The journey is an adventure,” says Martin, who, at 68, has fought criticism that he won’t finish the books. “There’s always that process of discovery for me.” But with young, and rapidly maturing, actors under contract and a community of artisans awaiting marching orders in Belfast, the show can’t wait.
Benioff and Weiss always knew this would happen. So they met with the novelist in 2013, between Seasons 2 and 3, to sketch out what Martin calls “the ultimate developments” after the books and show diverge. The upshot, they say, is that the two can coexist. “Certain things that we learned from George way back then are going to happen on the show, but certain things won’t,” says Benioff. “And there’s certain things where George didn’t know what was going to happen, so we’re going to find them out for the first time too.”
It’s also changed the on-set dynamic. Coster-Waldau says Benioff and Weiss have “become much more protective over the story and script. I think they feel this is truly theirs now, and it’s not to be tampered with. I’ve just sensed this last season that this is their baby: ‘Just say the words as they’re written, and shut up.’”
I love the idea of those two goofballs getting indignant at people questioning their writing given the last few seasons :lol
The showrunners are by far the weakest link in the whole operation.
anybody wanna play videogames on Sunday around 9PM EST
Can we just assume in this thread that if you ain't watched it by Monday you can just stay the hell out of the thread re:spoilers?
Thought it was a good episode, loved the opening with Arya wiping the Freys straight out of the game. Glad we didn't have to suffer through a season of Daenerys sailing and they put her ass right into Dragonstone -- hopefully this keeps up and we get a whole season of shit happening. Also, mebbe the hound ends up being Azor Ahai, whatcha think?
Can we just assume in this thread that if you ain't watched it by Monday you can just stay the hell out of the thread re:spoilers?
Thought it was a good episode, loved the opening with Arya wiping the Freys straight out of the game. Glad we didn't have to suffer through a season of Daenerys sailing and they put her ass right into Dragonstone -- hopefully this keeps up and we get a whole season of shit happening. Also, mebbe the hound ends up being Azor Ahai, whatcha think?
I read spoilers for the next episode, don't get your hopes too high. Although with only 7 episodes you'd think they wouldn't have so many slow episodes, but this episode was kinda slow. That Arya and Ed Sheeran scene felt like total AffC filler.
More proof of your jealousy of me. :snob
How did Jorah make it to the west coast of Westeros as a leper tho? :dogeAren't there medicines that can slow it from spreading? I thought that is what saved Shireen.
Hope s5 isn't too awful.(http://i.imgur.com/iWocTjo.jpg)
Prevailing theory seems to be...spoiler (click to show/hide)That show Arya basically = Lady Stone Heart as far as plot goes, and that the showrunners decided to have her undo all of the stupid LSH shit in one fell swoop so they can move on to other shit[close]
If you and PD were running the show, I can imagine LSH would have been a big source of arguments for you guys.spoiler (click to show/hide)Show would still be better though.[close]
One of the best things about Rome that there was a scene with a slave showing his big dick. That was like a decade ago, people. Game Of Thrones is missing out on a big opportunity with male nudity.
But anyway, I alluded to Arya being LSH in my previous comments about the episode. Makes sense, as long as the end is as tragic as I assume LSH and book Arya's arcs will be. Arya just being a killer who does "cool" murders with no other development would be cheap.
How is Sam still fat after all this time at the wall and barely eating and then going to the citadel and barely eating.
:lol I'm already expecting them to ruin my man Jaime fucking Lannister going by what I've read (sending him to Dorne?! What the fuck) but I'm going to try to take it in stride. I have to accept the books won't ever have an ending and just enjoy new ASOIAF content in these seasons. Beggars can't be choosers.
How is Sam still fat after all this time at the wall and barely eating and then going to the citadel and barely eating.
This seasons-long asinine Missandei/Grey Worm romance was worth it just for those shots of Grey Worm's cute ass.
I love that the concepts of time and distance no longer exist.
Don't see why there's any praise of this episode. Outside of naked missandei and hot pie and the sand snakes finally getting killed the whole episode was a hot mess for me
MuhDragons getting all bitchy at Varys for no reason.
Sansa keeps being a whiny child.
Sam redeems himself.
Theon is once again a bitch.
Hotpie :rejoice
MISSANDEI :lawd
I give it a 7/10
I agree with everything except your assessment of Sansa. She's much less awful than Jon. Sansa learned from her abusers while Jon was gaying it up in an all boy's military encampment where he was eventually murdered by his semen-receptacle boy Olly, and he somehow came back dumber than ever. Jon can only redeem himself by banging Danaerys as soon as possible.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2017/07/24/this-is-what-worries-me-about-game-of-thrones-after-last-nights-episode/#675bf5b83b74
:doge
https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2017/07/24/this-is-what-worries-me-about-game-of-thrones-after-last-nights-episode/#675bf5b83b74They're not wrong though.
:doge
https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2017/07/24/this-is-what-worries-me-about-game-of-thrones-after-last-nights-episode/#675bf5b83b74
:doge
I'm pretty sure in A Dance With Dragons the slavers' armies had ballistas, and they didn't do shit. Tyrion said the only way they'd be effective would be a lucky shot right to the eye or into the mouth.
The books had led me to believe that the giant horn Victarion came across was going to be the secret weapon against the dragons. But there's no Victarion and no horn, so I guess we can go with ballistas getting a buff.
again, its real easy to hit a giant skull sitting in front of youMeraxes was shot out the sky by an iron bolt through the eye, by the Dornish; I'd imagine a lot of bolts were shot at the same time and that was the lucky shot.
another good episode
why is theon such a puss
https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2017/07/24/this-is-what-worries-me-about-game-of-thrones-after-last-nights-episode/#675bf5b83b74They're not wrong though.
:doge
I was talking with the wife last night and it just feels like the show runners have let the show get away from them. The thing that made made GoT more than standard fantasy schlock for me was when Ned Stark gets beheaded and GRRM was like "Oh you thought he was the main character? The events are the main character bitch!" The show runners seem to be thinking "We have all these characters, what do we do with them?" "Well, let's tie fatfriend with Sir Friendzone, why? because people will eat that up." I can't speak for the books, especially after the last 2, but unless Sir Friendzone has something important to do,they'd just leave it as, he died somewhere.
And don't get me started on the Varys "I choose you Pikachu!" It started off strong with him maintaining that he's on the side of the realm but then is like "But I'll server you." And then the Greyjoys. "Oh noes! It's Euron!! I'm this badass Piratess of the sea and I'm just going to sit around slack jawed and not give a single order." There are so many things that they're doing with their caricatures that are just so perplexing. I have to admit, I was like "I'm not going to read the next books. The show will do." If this is how it's going to go? I'll probably read the books just to see if they're as big a mess as the show
Last season was a wreck until Hodor and then the battle of the bastards. This season? Episode 1 was OK. Episode 2 feels like the show has gotten away from them. We'll see if they have another epic battle scene to save the season.
again, its real easy to hit a giant skull sitting in front of youMeraxes was shot out the sky by an iron bolt through the eye, by the Dornish; I'd imagine a lot of bolts were shot at the same time and that was the lucky shot.
I wouldn't expect history to repeat itself on that front. If any of Dany's dragons die in the show it'll be due to magic or something. In the books, you could use a horn to steal a dragon and pit it against another.
Yeah. I'll give you that. After book four and especially five you were left with a feeling of "wait a minute, plot armor has essentially made this shitty."https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2017/07/24/this-is-what-worries-me-about-game-of-thrones-after-last-nights-episode/#675bf5b83b74They're not wrong though.
:doge
I was talking with the wife last night and it just feels like the show runners have let the show get away from them. The thing that made made GoT more than standard fantasy schlock for me was when Ned Stark gets beheaded and GRRM was like "Oh you thought he was the main character? The events are the main character bitch!" The show runners seem to be thinking "We have all these characters, what do we do with them?" "Well, let's tie fatfriend with Sir Friendzone, why? because people will eat that up." I can't speak for the books, especially after the last 2, but unless Sir Friendzone has something important to do,they'd just leave it as, he died somewhere.
And don't get me started on the Varys "I choose you Pikachu!" It started off strong with him maintaining that he's on the side of the realm but then is like "But I'll server you." And then the Greyjoys. "Oh noes! It's Euron!! I'm this badass Piratess of the sea and I'm just going to sit around slack jawed and not give a single order." There are so many things that they're doing with their caricatures that are just so perplexing. I have to admit, I was like "I'm not going to read the next books. The show will do." If this is how it's going to go? I'll probably read the books just to see if they're as big a mess as the show
Last season was a wreck until Hodor and then the battle of the bastards. This season? Episode 1 was OK. Episode 2 feels like the show has gotten away from them. We'll see if they have another epic battle scene to save the season.
Except Game of Thrones was always laying the ground work for typical fantasy schlock. GURM just tricked people with Ned Stark for one book, but since then it has been pretty clear who is safe and has plot armor (Jon, Daenery, Tyrion, Arya). Everything else is just fat pink masts and grimdark for grimdarks sake.
I'd expect a lot of big characters to die before the end.
I'd expect a lot of big characters to die before the end.I suspect Arya and Tyrion will die at the very end in a dramatic "I die, not for honor, but for you." moment.
I'm really looking forward to the best storyline of AFFC: Cersei Lannister's downfall and the mind games between her and Maegary. :lawd And the fucking ending to AFFC, with the letter, and Jaime burning it. :lawd My one-handed stud.
And my nicca Prince Doran :bow Always pictured him older but :bow anyways
Things GRRM did between Dance and now:spoiler (click to show/hide)Buy a movie theater
Hold an event in said theater at least once a week
Publish at least 1 Wild Cards book (too lazy to check if there were more)
Attend numerous conventions and award shows
Publish 1 (and probably 2) ASOIAF lore books before Winds
Campaign for Hillary :doge[close]
Things GRRM did between Dance and now:spoiler (click to show/hide)Buy a movie theater
Hold an event in said theater at least once a week
Publish at least 1 Wild Cards book (too lazy to check if there were more)
Attend numerous conventions and award shows
Publish 1 (and probably 2) ASOIAF lore books before Winds
Campaign for Hillary :doge[close]
Episode 6 :confused
D&D are no talent hacks. Please save us, George.
I simply cannot understand why this show changes things from the books for the worse. I cannot understand it. I understand if you can't do something because it requires a huge budget or whatever, but this change in particular MAKES NO SENSE and is a vastly inferior conclusion.
:stop
I'll see myself out. This fucking show raises my blood pressure with the unnecessary changes. It makes me feel like a special fellow. Because for non-readers it comes off poorly, but holy shit. This fucking show and its fucking writers.
:stop
I would be able to tolerate this so much better if the books would get a fucking ending. Holy shit, FUCK George R.R. Martin.
I simply cannot understand why this show changes things from the books for the worse. I cannot understand it. I understand if you can't do something because it requires a huge budget or whatever, but this change in particular MAKES NO SENSE and is a vastly inferior conclusion.
:stop
I'll see myself out. This fucking show raises my blood pressure with the unnecessary changes. It makes me feel like a special fellow. Because for non-readers it comes off poorly, but holy shit. This fucking show and its fucking writers.
:stop
I would be able to tolerate this so much better if the books would get a fucking ending. Holy shit, FUCK George R.R. Martin.
Wait, what are you referring to?
I simply cannot understand why this show changes things from the books for the worse. I cannot understand it. I understand if you can't do something because it requires a huge budget or whatever, but this change in particular MAKES NO SENSE and is a vastly inferior conclusion.
:stop
I'll see myself out. This fucking show raises my blood pressure with the unnecessary changes. It makes me feel like a special fellow. Because for non-readers it comes off poorly, but holy shit. This fucking show and its fucking writers.
:stop
I would be able to tolerate this so much better if the books would get a fucking ending. Holy shit, FUCK George R.R. Martin.
Which particular changes are you talking about? I barely remember that season.
Ok so, Cersei does get her comeuppance but with none of the build or fan fare. I...don't get this show. The back and forth between Maergary and Cersei was amazing. The way it builds up, the way you can read inside Cersei's head, and see her slowly get more and more insane. Here, Cersei is just Cersei but with a little extra. I mean, we have the same end result with a less satisfying conclusion. I truly think this should have been a more season wide story line. There should have been more visions with Cersei visitng the Maegi. How she killed her friend who went with her. How she relives this moment over and over and does whatever she can to stop the vision the Maegi said from coming true. How she continually talks about what's best for her children but really is just crazy. Again, the show gets to that destination, but with none of what makes it so fucking satisfying. I know time is limited and they've got a small amount of episodes to work but damn. This could have been far better. I think they actually somehow made Feast worse despite my issues with it and the only plotline I can think of that has any real improvement is Brienne's.
I know you're a fan of telenovela bitch face, Queen. Cersei delivers big time.
Arya's storyline is better than the books. :leon
QFTArya's storyline is better than the books. :leon
I didn't make it past book 3, but if Arya's story is even worse in the books, it must be abysmal.
What ep of 6 are you on?
Everything Dorne related is a dumpster fire
I dunno. I always like the stuff in Braavos and where how she goes blind. The tv series improves on this.
Alright, I lied. Viserys was the best character. But he had the second best death so it's cool.
I dunno. I always like the stuff in Braavos and where how she goes blind. The tv series improves on this.
You won't be thinking this after you see Season 6. That was as bad as S5 Dorne for me. It was so bad that Maisie Williams even had to refuse the dumb things they were telling her to do.
I dunno. I always like the stuff in Braavos and where how she goes blind. The tv series improves on this.
You won't be thinking this after you see Season 6. That was as bad as S5 Dorne for me. It was so bad that Maisie Williams even had to refuse the dumb things they were telling her to do.
What do you mean by the last sentence? I hadn't heard of that. Please use spoilers to protect the Queen's virgin eyes.
Williams explains that episode director Mark Mylod and his team wanted Arya's escape from The Waif in episode seven and subsequent chase in No One to be far more theatrical, but the actress maintained that it wasn't Ayra's style.
She said that in her mind, Ayra was really struggling, and wouldn't expend extra energy on pulling cool-looking stunts when she was just trying to stay safe:
"I wanted her to look like she was struggling. I didn’t want [the chase stunts] to be unnecessary or superhuman. I got on set and they were [going to have Arya] rolling around, and diving, and I was like, 'That looks amazing, but no.' I’d be like, 'Why would she run over there? She’d just duck under here and just get out.'"
One cool thing GRRM did in Feast was mention off-hand in every Cersei scene how she's been drinking a glass of wine. It kind of sneaks up on you, but after awhile you realize she's become a full-blown alcoholic.
Like, why would they sail all the way to Dragonstone and then sail BACK to Dorne to get troops? They passed Dorne while sailing to Dragonstone.
Saw the episode last night. There were multiple dialogue moment that were stunningly bad ("you said fire can kills wights. What breaths fire?") and just idiotic plot driven decisions that made no sense. Like, why would they sail all the way to Dragonstone and then sail BACK to Dorne to get troops? They passed Dorne while sailing to Dragonstone.How's about them sand snakes eh? :hitler
Still I enjoyed the plotting amongst the various factions at the beginning of the episode. The Euron stuff....parts of that battle just looked distinguished mentally-challenged. I dunno brehs....
S6 is incredible. :lawd
S6 is incredible. :lawd
What episode are you on? I think the finale is possibly my favorite episode of the series.
There's something to be said about a show that makes you cheer for the gratuitous murder of a child.
Hardhome is the best episode of the series IMO.
s6 finale comes close though.
Where they at
It wasn't so much that D&D sucked at the little things (though they did!) as much as that they replaced the meaningful little things with boobs and dick.
Oberyn was a great example of this. We barely got any of his cool conversations from ASOS, but we got plenty of him establishing that he likes to fuck the pussy AND the butt.
Seeing as how things have played out, at this point Greyworm and the unsullied are going to die on some bs :beli
I don't get the hatred of ollie. Then again I'm not a binary person. Ollie saw the same assholes who freely killed his entire village spared after they lost the fight. You can't blame him for thinking Jon Snow was fucking incompetent and could make the whole night's watch crumble.
I don't get the hatred of ollie. Then again I'm not a binary person. Ollie saw the same assholes who freely killed his entire village spared after they lost the fight. You can't blame him for thinking Jon Snow was fucking incompetent and could make the whole night's watch crumble.
Then again, wildlings did kill his family and threaten to eat him. :thinking
Also, I'm liking Dany less and less and less. She's so fucking entitled. Unlike :rejoice Jon :rejoice
Sure. But she's starting to get more and more grating.
Never thought I'd see a book reader say Jaime on the show is an improvement, haha.
Never thought I'd see a book reader say Jaime on the show is an improvement, haha.
Never thought I'd see a book reader say Jaime on the show is an improvement, haha.
I think the showrunners just quit trying with Jamie after the wtf rape scene in S4, which had like no repercussions on the show and was never referenced again. Really, what the hell was that? It's easily the most bizarre instance of rape in the show.
This episode still had some silliness but it was largely a return back to form.
The show runners are really bending space/time though to get everyone back and forth so quick.spoiler (click to show/hide)I like the whole sacrificing Castley Rock for High Garden, but really no one noticed the Lannister army marching to High Garden? Come now.[close]
The Lannisters is the only house that has an infinite supply of troops that haven't been ravaged by war lolol.
John just being at Dragonstone was awesome. We done with season long travels, time for shit to happen
The Lannisters is the only house that has an infinite supply of troops that haven't been ravaged by war lolol.
The best bit about that is that the Lannister land is one of the smallest ones, with the fewest major cities.
The Lannisters is the only house that has an infinite supply of troops that haven't been ravaged by war lolol.
The best bit about that is that the Lannister land is one of the smallest ones, with the fewest major cities.
They portrayed Casterly Rock as a moderately sized castle, not a city. How do they even fit, let alone feed thousands of troops in there?
I just can't get over how dumb this show is. The Lannisters can just march in and rek any other army incurring minimal losses. Nevermind that the Tyrell army vastly outnumbers their own. Oh, I forgot, "they aren't good at fighting."
:neogaf
I just can't get over how dumb this show is. The Lannisters can just march in and rek any other army incurring minimal losses. Nevermind that the Tyrell army vastly outnumbers their own. Oh, I forgot, "they aren't good at fighting."
:neogaf
Yes, but House Tarly is one of 50 something houses that swore allegiance to Tyrells.
Yes, but House Tarly is one of 50 something houses that swore allegiance to Tyrells.
Um.
Lannister's taking Tyrell's isn't out of the ordinary. They're not considered a fighting house and Tarly was their man fighting force bannerman. Olenna spells it out when Jaime walks in: they're not known for fighting, Lancel or no. They're important because of their resources they provide to the realm.
https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/6r5er8/spoilers_extended_reimagining_dorne_in_got/
:bow
https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/6r5er8/spoilers_extended_reimagining_dorne_in_got/
:bow
A better re-imagining: just cut Dorne altogether.
Alright, I guess Lannisters sacking Highgarden as easy as taking a candy from a baby isn't THE most awful thing about the last couple of episodes.
Why were all the commoners in King's Landing cheering for Euron and throwing shit at Asha again? Do most common folk even know who Asha is? Didn't all the commoners hate Cersei and throw stuff at her when she did her walk of shame? The residents of flea bottom have the memory of a frut fly..
Alright, I guess Lannisters sacking Highgarden as easy as taking a candy from a baby isn't THE most awful thing about the last couple of episodes.
Why were all the commoners in King's Landing cheering for Euron and throwing shit at Asha again? Do most common folk even know who Asha is? Didn't all the commoners hate Cersei and throw stuff at her when she did her walk of shame? The residents of flea bottom have the memory of a frut fly..
Personally, if Donald Trump killed all of the most annoying and awful religious people in a glorious green explosion tomorrow, I'd probably be willing to forget a lot about his past. King's Landing was probably ecstatic to be rid of those Sparrow assholes.
Alright, I guess Lannisters sacking Highgarden as easy as taking a candy from a baby isn't THE most awful thing about the last couple of episodes.
Why were all the commoners in King's Landing cheering for Euron and throwing shit at Asha again? Do most common folk even know who Asha is? Didn't all the commoners hate Cersei and throw stuff at her when she did her walk of shame? The residents of flea bottom have the memory of a frut fly..
Personally, if Donald Trump killed all of the most annoying and awful religious people in a glorious green explosion tomorrow, I'd probably be willing to forget a lot about his past. King's Landing was probably ecstatic to be rid of those Sparrow assholes.
I think all theWashington EliteNobles hated the Sparrow assholes, but they seemed to help out the dirty poors and won favor with them. My question was more along the lines of, what explicit reasons did they have to hate Asha/Yara and rain adoration at Euron?
But why do they care about the murderer of Cersei's daughter, a product of incestual relationship, an abomination in those people's eyes?
Don't mind me, I'm nitpicking at this point. I'll find anything to hate about this show these days. >:(
I don't read the books and the show has still gone to shit for me
Alright, I guess Lannisters sacking Highgarden as easy as taking a candy from a baby isn't THE most awful thing about the last couple of episodes.
Why were all the commoners in King's Landing cheering for Euron and throwing shit at Asha again? Do most common folk even know who Asha is? Didn't all the commoners hate Cersei and throw stuff at her when she did her walk of shame? The residents of flea bottom have the memory of a frut fly..
Personally, if Donald Trump killed all of the most annoying and awful religious people in a glorious green explosion tomorrow, I'd probably be willing to forget a lot about his past. King's Landing was probably ecstatic to be rid of those Sparrow assholes.
I think all theWashington EliteNobles hated the Sparrow assholes, but they seemed to help out the dirty poors and won favor with them. My question was more along the lines of, what explicit reasons did they have to hate Asha/Yara and rain adoration at Euron?
How many times did you jerk it to that fisting vid?
Ep4 has leakedThis ep brehs :rejoicespoiler (click to show/hide)Torrent users are saying "The quality is bad but it was worth it for such great episode. Thanks a lot."[close]
I seriously can't wait for the first dragon to die. Fuck those OP POS lizards.
I'm cool with dragons roasting shit. I just want to see one get taken out. It could be Viserion, he's named after a total bitch character anyway.
I'm cool with dragons roasting shit. I just want to see one get taken out. It could be Viserion, he's named after a total bitch character anyway.
I'm cool with dragons roasting shit. I just want to see one get taken out. It could be Viserion, he's named after a total bitch character anyway.
I know everyone is talking about dragons and shit, but my favorite part of this episode was when Bran says "Chaos is a ladder" to Littlefinger. Great moment.
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Watches 100s of men suffer horrible, painful deaths.
"Oh no! Drogon! Is he ok?!"
as a non-book reader this is my theory on nextThat's an awful trade. Why would Dany ever make that?spoiler (click to show/hide)Jamie survives and is bartered in trade for one of the female prisoners, probably Ellen DeGreyjoy[close]
She could ask for the 3 for 1 trade. *shrug*
Addendum: Wasn't poppa Lannister involved in Joffrey's death? If so, why didn't Grandma Sassy drop that bomb, too?
That wasn't Drogon. Drogon is black. :bobbyNo, that was definitely Drogon. The other two have a completely different color. And Drogon is the only one that she ever rides.
I think that was Viserion.
https://twitter.com/peejhuncho/status/894383193238974464
That wasn't Drogon. Drogon is black. :bobbyNo, that was definitely Drogon. The other two have a completely different color. And Drogon is the only one that she ever rides.
I think that was Viserion.
I like how when the Stark sisters met up they didn't mention Rickon at all.
Also I was unclear, did Daenerys melt any of the gold or just food supplies?
I like how when the Stark sisters met up they didn't mention Rickon at all.
Also I was unclear, did Daenerys melt any of the gold or just food supplies?
All the gold is "safely" in King's Landing. The ashes are food stuffs and Lannister soldiers.
Holy shit, alright, this episode was badass! Get fuck't Jaime!spoiler (click to show/hide)He can fight with his lame ass left hand now all of a sudden, foh[close]
Holy shit, alright, this episode was badass! Get fuck't Jaime!spoiler (click to show/hide)He can fight with his lame ass left hand now all of a sudden, foh[close]
Bronn training Jaime how to fight with his left hand is one of the biggest omissions on the show. It's such a fun storyline too.
spoiler (click to show/hide)someone needs to kill little finger already, getting tired of his lurking. Totally ready to see Arya fuck up some white walkers with her valerian steel dagger[close]
Holy shit, alright, this episode was badass! Get fuck't Jaime!spoiler (click to show/hide)He can fight with his lame ass left hand now all of a sudden, foh[close]
Bronn training Jaime how to fight with his left hand is one of the biggest omissions on the show. It's such a fun storyline too.
That was FROM the show. In the book it was the mute executioner guy that trained him iirc and he still sucked.
Was Little Finger on Arya's list?
I loved that look Arya gave Sansa when Bran told her that Cersei's on her list. Like "I wasn't kidding about the list, bitch"
Also, is it just me or did the Lannister's gave away their hand with the ballista? Now Dany knows they have weapons that can hurt dragons and will use more caution.
Was Little Finger on Arya's list?
I loved that look Arya gave Sansa when Bran told her that Cersei's on her list. Like "I wasn't kidding about the list, bitch"
Also, is it just me or did the Lannister's gave away their hand with the ballista? Now Dany knows they have weapons that can hurt dragons and will use more caution.
Littlefinger is not on her list but I believe Bran gave her the dagger because he knows the truth and will reveal it to Arya so she can kill him.
Also, the show is silent on the issue of Bran's assassin, but (from a wiki read) it's spelled pretty clearly in the books - and it ain't Littlefinger.
No, I expect Sana to have the majority role in orchestrating his downfall.
Was Little Finger on Arya's list?
I loved that look Arya gave Sansa when Bran told her that Cersei's on her list. Like "I wasn't kidding about the list, bitch"
Also, is it just me or did the Lannister's gave away their hand with the ballista? Now Dany knows they have weapons that can hurt dragons and will use more caution.
Littlefinger is not on her list but I believe Bran gave her the dagger because he knows the truth and will reveal it to Arya so she can kill him.
Dang, Arya killing Littlefinger would be so sweet!
I do think they're making her too OP, she shouldn't be handling Brianne like that. She should be able to pull a bunch of crafty/stealthy assasin dirty tricks, but in a one on one battle, I think not. She didn't even train with Syrio that long, and besides that she wouldn't pick up or get considerable practice fencing on her journey. Sure, she's killed tons of people, but usually in the chaos of melee battles. She shouldn't stand a chance against a seasoned warrior like Brianne (and if Arya can easily beat Brienne, she should have been able to dispatch the Hound at will as well, but we all know that was not the case).
What sparring experience did Arya have, besides Syrio Farrel? My point is that she would need years and years of practice to get on that level, and as we know her training sessions with Syrio didn't last very long.
I don't really care though. I just hope she sticks more people with her pointy bit.
What sparring experience did Arya have, besides Syrio Farrel? My point is that she would need years and years of practice to get on that level, and as we know her training sessions with Syrio didn't last very long.
I don't really care though. I just hope she sticks more people with her pointy bit.
Uhhhh Arya trained blind and managed to kill a faceless man in a dark room. Did you not watch last season?
The actress that plays Sansa is so boring, she has no charisma. She's like a wet rag.to be fair she hasn't been given any interesting material to work with in years. She seems like the typical child actor/actress who doesn't really stand out, but she's not terrible. TBH it just looks worse because she's alongside a pretty impressive child actress (Arya).
Breh Sansa ain't no strong woman. The show has plenty of them and Sansa is a little mouse compared to them.
Breh Sansa ain't no strong woman. The show has plenty of them and Sansa is a little mouse compared to them.
Being a strong woman has nothing to do with kicking ass. Sansa is pretty fucking strong. :beli
Breh Sansa ain't no strong woman. The show has plenty of them and Sansa is a little mouse compared to them.
Being a strong woman has nothing to do with kicking ass. Sansa is pretty fucking strong. :beli
So, uh, who was behind the Bran assassination attempt? I know it's not really resolved in the books, but the show seems to imply Littlefinger, but I don't see what his motive would be. Littlefinger could've just done it to cause further chaos, but I'm not sure what sort of chaos he could've counted on such a move causing.Basically creating a rift between the Lannisters and Starks, which seems to have been an early goal of his. They are two of the biggest houses and the whole idea of marrying Sansa to Joffrey was to get them all on the same page and invested in the Baratheon dynasty. So it could make sense that he'd move to cause problems before that could happen.
So, uh, who was behind the Bran assassination attempt? I know it's not really resolved in the books, but the show seems to imply Littlefinger, but I don't see what his motive would be. Littlefinger could've just done it to cause further chaos, but I'm not sure what sort of chaos he could've counted on such a move causing.Basically creating a rift between the Lannisters and Starks, which seems to have been an early goal of his. They are two of the biggest houses and the whole idea of marrying Sansa to Joffrey was to get them all on the same page and invested in the Baratheon dynasty. So it could make sense that he'd move to cause problems before that could happen.
I'd have more questions about how it would work logistically. He wasn't at Winterfell at the time, so even if he's using ravens to give orders there's the question of the knife.
havent really seen her in anything else imma blame the character
Another possibility is Joffrey. It's been a while since I saw s1/read GoT but I recall Joffrey saying that he'd want to be dead if he could never walk again. Using might without cunning is Joffrey's forte. The knife after all was a gift to Joff. The assassination attempt in Winterfell itself reeks of pure arrogance. It has Joffrey's signature all over it.
Another possibility is Joffrey. It's been a while since I saw s1/read GoT but I recall Joffrey saying that he'd want to be dead if he could never walk again. Using might without cunning is Joffrey's forte. The knife after all was a gift to Joff. The assassination attempt in Winterfell itself reeks of pure arrogance. It has Joffrey's signature all over it.
This also raises another question: why would the person that ordered that assassination give the hired hand a weapon that could be used to identify the person that ordered the assassination unless they wanted to start a direct conflict? I guess in this case, it would make sense if Joffrey ordered it because he's a fucking idiot.
Another possibility is Joffrey. It's been a while since I saw s1/read GoT but I recall Joffrey saying that he'd want to be dead if he could never walk again. Using might without cunning is Joffrey's forte. The knife after all was a gift to Joff. The assassination attempt in Winterfell itself reeks of pure arrogance. It has Joffrey's signature all over it.
This also raises another question: why would the person that ordered that assassination give the hired hand a weapon that could be used to identify the person that ordered the assassination unless they wanted to start a direct conflict? I guess in this case, it would make sense if Joffrey ordered it because he's a fucking idiot.
That's why I think it was Joffrey.
It's been a while. It's all coming back to me.
I think the knife was originally Robert's and someone stole it? It was later when Joffrey was given the knife as a gift, right? It has that little cunts mitts all over it. Cersei, as cruel as she is, isn't an idiot. It has to be Joff (who is an idiot) or Jaime (who would do anything for Cersei and pushed Bran out the window to begin with).
Another possibility is Joffrey. It's been a while since I saw s1/read GoT but I recall Joffrey saying that he'd want to be dead if he could never walk again. Using might without cunning is Joffrey's forte. The knife after all was a gift to Joff. The assassination attempt in Winterfell itself reeks of pure arrogance. It has Joffrey's signature all over it.
This also raises another question: why would the person that ordered that assassination give the hired hand a weapon that could be used to identify the person that ordered the assassination unless they wanted to start a direct conflict? I guess in this case, it would make sense if Joffrey ordered it because he's a fucking idiot.
That's why I think it was Joffrey.
It's been a while. It's all coming back to me.
I think the knife was originally Robert's and someone stole it? It was later when Joffrey was given the knife as a gift, right? It has that little cunts mitts all over it. Cersei, as cruel as she is, isn't an idiot. It has to be Joff (who is an idiot) or Jaime (who would do anything for Cersei and pushed Bran out the window to begin with).
I guess he is the only person that makes sense, but we have to accept that he was stupid enough to risk his marriage to Sansa, conflict with his dad, and possible war with the north. I mean, that's really stupid. Why not just tell the assassin to use his own goddamned dagger?
In A Clash of Kings, Catelyn found out that Littlefinger lied to her about the dagger only after she interrogated Jaime Lannister. Jaime bluntly admitted that he pushed Bran from the window in attempt to kill him, but claimed that neither he nor Cersei nor Tyrion had anything to do with the assassin; both Tyrion and Jaime pointed out the key flaw in Littlefinger's story- Tyrion couldn't have won the dagger in a gambling bet because he never betted against Jaime in such circumstances. When asked about the dagger, Jaime remembered that Littlefinger bet and lost it - to Robert, not to Tyrion. Catelyn realized Jaime was telling her the truth, for he had nothing to gain by lying about the assassin and the dagger after admitting that he pushed Bran. Jaime admits that he and Cersei considered having Bran killed, but given the fact Catelyn was in his bed chamber at all times and the room was guarded, it would have meant murdering their way through half of Winterfell's population to reach Bran, and they concluded there was no need when it seemed more likely that Bran would die of his injuries from the fall.
During a casual conversation at King's Landing, Tyrion made a comment about Littlefinger's elegant suit and handsome knife. Littlefinger drew his knife, glanced at it casually, as if he had never seen it before and said “Valyrian steel, and a dragonbone hilt. A trifle plain, though. It’s yours, if you would like it." Noticing the mischief in his eyes, Tyrion realized that Littlefinger was teasing him insolently about the assassin's dagger, without saying anything explicit.
Tyrion suffered a lot as a result of Littlefinger's lie: he was humiliated, kidnapped, beaten, locked in a sky cell and nearly killed three times (on the way to the Eyrie, at the Eyrie, and on the way back) - and yet he never attempted to settle the score with Littlefinger, either openly or secretly (as he did with a singer who tried to blackmail him), even after being taunted about it. It is unclear why Tyrion let Littlefinger get away with that, in contrast to the unofficial motto of his house (though Tyrion does note that at the time, Littlefinger is still too useful to House Lannister to kill him out of hand simply for revenge, though Tyrion's own train of thought implies that he will gladly have Littlefinger killed for the grief he caused Tyrion, once his usefulness is at an end).
In A Storm of Swords, Tyrion and Jaime independently deduce that it was Joffrey who sent the assassin:
After Joffrey uses his new sword to cut the book Tyrion gave him at his wedding, he says "I am no stranger to Valyrian steel." That strange comment makes Tyrion realize it was him (discounting the only two other possible culprits, because Jaime was too proud to have another do his killing for him, while Cersei was too cunning to use a knife that could be traced back to her). Tyrion remembers overhearing Joffrey jesting with the Hound in Winterfell about killing wolves: "Send a dog to kill a wolf." Even Joffrey was not so foolish as to command the Hound to slay a son of Eddard Stark, as Clegane would have informed Cersei. Instead he found his catspaw among the unsavory lot of freeriders, merchants, and camp followers who had attached themselves to the King's party as they made their way north. Since even Joffrey was not stupid enough to use his own dagger, he went poking among his father's weapons. No doubt some diligent servant had made certain that the King's weapons went with him, in case he should desire any of them. The only thing Tyrion cannot figure out is Joffrey's motive. Recalling a nasty quarrel between Joffrey and Robb, Tyrion asks Sansa if there was any ill feeling between Bran and Joffrey, but her answer is negative. He guesses then it was mere cruelty of Joffrey. Another possibility is that Joffrey grew incensed when Tyrion slapped him and ordered him to offer his sympathies to Eddard and Catelyn about Bran's injury (simply for the sake of decorum); in his warped mind, Joffrey felt so insulted at being commanded to express sympathy to Bran's parents that he may have wanted to soothe his wounded pride by having an unconscious seven year old boy assassinated.
Jaime tells Cersei that Catelyn suspected him of sending the assassin to kill Bran. Cersei recalls Robert saying of Bran: "We kill our horses when they break a leg, and our dogs when they go blind, but we are too weak to give the same mercy to crippled children" in the presence of their children, including Joffrey. Jaime deduces that it was Joffrey, but he was a child hungry for a pat on the head from the drunken fool Cersei let him believe was his father - that somehow in Joffrey's warped train of thought, he concluded that Robert would appreciate his decisiveness for euthanizing Bran without permission. It also may have been a combination of all these motives.
Although there is no direct evidence that definitively proves that Joffrey was the one who sent the assassin, it is very likely Tyrion and Jaime are correct about pinning the assassination attempt on him. When Jaime finally engineers Tyrion's escape from the dungeons, during their conversation through the secret tunnels of the Red Keep, Tyrion becomes annoyed and asks Jaime if he knew that his son tried to kill Bran Stark. Jaime grudgingly admits that he had thought he might have.
Another possibility is Joffrey. It's been a while since I saw s1/read GoT but I recall Joffrey saying that he'd want to be dead if he could never walk again. Using might without cunning is Joffrey's forte. The knife after all was a gift to Joff. The assassination attempt in Winterfell itself reeks of pure arrogance. It has Joffrey's signature all over it.
This also raises another question: why would the person that ordered that assassination give the hired hand a weapon that could be used to identify the person that ordered the assassination unless they wanted to start a direct conflict? I guess in this case, it would make sense if Joffrey ordered it because he's a fucking idiot.
That's why I think it was Joffrey.
It's been a while. It's all coming back to me.
I think the knife was originally Robert's and someone stole it? It was later when Joffrey was given the knife as a gift, right? It has that little cunts mitts all over it. Cersei, as cruel as she is, isn't an idiot. It has to be Joff (who is an idiot) or Jaime (who would do anything for Cersei and pushed Bran out the window to begin with).
I guess he is the only person that makes sense, but we have to accept that he was stupid enough to risk his marriage to Sansa, conflict with his dad, and possible war with the north. I mean, that's really stupid. Why not just tell the assassin to use his own goddamned dagger?
I don't know.
I remember one part where someone (Littlefinger?) shows Joff the dagger and Joff acts like he's never seen or used it totally has.
Plus, there's the quote.
"You're not s'pposed to be here; no one's s'pposed to be here. It's a mercy; he's dead already." And as said, Joffrey wouldn't want to live if he could never walk again. He thought he was doing Bran a favor.
From the wiki:QuoteIn A Clash of Kings, Catelyn found out that Littlefinger lied to her about the dagger only after she interrogated Jaime Lannister. Jaime bluntly admitted that he pushed Bran from the window in attempt to kill him, but claimed that neither he nor Cersei nor Tyrion had anything to do with the assassin; both Tyrion and Jaime pointed out the key flaw in Littlefinger's story- Tyrion couldn't have won the dagger in a gambling bet because he never betted against Jaime in such circumstances. When asked about the dagger, Jaime remembered that Littlefinger bet and lost it - to Robert, not to Tyrion. Catelyn realized Jaime was telling her the truth, for he had nothing to gain by lying about the assassin and the dagger after admitting that he pushed Bran. Jaime admits that he and Cersei considered having Bran killed, but given the fact Catelyn was in his bed chamber at all times and the room was guarded, it would have meant murdering their way through half of Winterfell's population to reach Bran, and they concluded there was no need when it seemed more likely that Bran would die of his injuries from the fall.
During a casual conversation at King's Landing, Tyrion made a comment about Littlefinger's elegant suit and handsome knife. Littlefinger drew his knife, glanced at it casually, as if he had never seen it before and said “Valyrian steel, and a dragonbone hilt. A trifle plain, though. It’s yours, if you would like it." Noticing the mischief in his eyes, Tyrion realized that Littlefinger was teasing him insolently about the assassin's dagger, without saying anything explicit.
Tyrion suffered a lot as a result of Littlefinger's lie: he was humiliated, kidnapped, beaten, locked in a sky cell and nearly killed three times (on the way to the Eyrie, at the Eyrie, and on the way back) - and yet he never attempted to settle the score with Littlefinger, either openly or secretly (as he did with a singer who tried to blackmail him), even after being taunted about it. It is unclear why Tyrion let Littlefinger get away with that, in contrast to the unofficial motto of his house (though Tyrion does note that at the time, Littlefinger is still too useful to House Lannister to kill him out of hand simply for revenge, though Tyrion's own train of thought implies that he will gladly have Littlefinger killed for the grief he caused Tyrion, once his usefulness is at an end).
In A Storm of Swords, Tyrion and Jaime independently deduce that it was Joffrey who sent the assassin:
After Joffrey uses his new sword to cut the book Tyrion gave him at his wedding, he says "I am no stranger to Valyrian steel." That strange comment makes Tyrion realize it was him (discounting the only two other possible culprits, because Jaime was too proud to have another do his killing for him, while Cersei was too cunning to use a knife that could be traced back to her). Tyrion remembers overhearing Joffrey jesting with the Hound in Winterfell about killing wolves: "Send a dog to kill a wolf." Even Joffrey was not so foolish as to command the Hound to slay a son of Eddard Stark, as Clegane would have informed Cersei. Instead he found his catspaw among the unsavory lot of freeriders, merchants, and camp followers who had attached themselves to the King's party as they made their way north. Since even Joffrey was not stupid enough to use his own dagger, he went poking among his father's weapons. No doubt some diligent servant had made certain that the King's weapons went with him, in case he should desire any of them. The only thing Tyrion cannot figure out is Joffrey's motive. Recalling a nasty quarrel between Joffrey and Robb, Tyrion asks Sansa if there was any ill feeling between Bran and Joffrey, but her answer is negative. He guesses then it was mere cruelty of Joffrey. Another possibility is that Joffrey grew incensed when Tyrion slapped him and ordered him to offer his sympathies to Eddard and Catelyn about Bran's injury (simply for the sake of decorum); in his warped mind, Joffrey felt so insulted at being commanded to express sympathy to Bran's parents that he may have wanted to soothe his wounded pride by having an unconscious seven year old boy assassinated.
Jaime tells Cersei that Catelyn suspected him of sending the assassin to kill Bran. Cersei recalls Robert saying of Bran: "We kill our horses when they break a leg, and our dogs when they go blind, but we are too weak to give the same mercy to crippled children" in the presence of their children, including Joffrey. Jaime deduces that it was Joffrey, but he was a child hungry for a pat on the head from the drunken fool Cersei let him believe was his father - that somehow in Joffrey's warped train of thought, he concluded that Robert would appreciate his decisiveness for euthanizing Bran without permission. It also may have been a combination of all these motives.
Although there is no direct evidence that definitively proves that Joffrey was the one who sent the assassin, it is very likely Tyrion and Jaime are correct about pinning the assassination attempt on him. When Jaime finally engineers Tyrion's escape from the dungeons, during their conversation through the secret tunnels of the Red Keep, Tyrion becomes annoyed and asks Jaime if he knew that his son tried to kill Bran Stark. Jaime grudgingly admits that he had thought he might have.
Riiiight, I forgot that Jaime and Tyrion came to those conclusions. Yeah, it was Joff.
The actress that plays Sansa is so boring, she has no charisma. She's like a wet rag.
I think LF’s accent has changed every season. But it’s always sexy.
I think LF’s accent has changed every season. But it’s always sexy.
Aiden Gillen's natural speaking voice is weird and a bit unplaceable now in general:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzrLtBC7wXc
havent really seen her in anything else imma blame the character
Er, X-Men Apocalypse?
This movie was worse than BvS and Suicide Squad combined, but no one even talks about it.
Shit character.
Getting rid of him is like the one good thing this show ever did for book fans.
Jon Snow actor is awful.
I think LF’s accent has changed every season. But it’s always sexy.
Aiden Gillen's natural speaking voice is weird and a bit unplaceable now in general:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzrLtBC7wXc
What happened with Daario Naharis? Budgetary cuts?
and fuck his dad for killing kids
and fuck his dad for killing kids
For real?!
Fuck Max Landis forever for ruining Dirk Gently.
How the fuck
A. Dany let somebody as valuable as Jaime just get away after he tried to kill her
B. Jamie and Bronn stay underwater long enough to get far away from the battlefield without drowning.
Has Littlefinger's actor done any nude scenes in anything? He's seriously like my ideal male.
What did that little scroll say that Littlefinger was reading?
Has Littlefinger's actor done any nude scenes in anything? He's seriously like my ideal male.
watch the UK Queer as Folk
Well that was boring.
I thought the whole point of only 7 episodes this season was because episodes were going to be longer with more shit happening?
They're going to add a couple more seasons. Just watch.
Gendry gonna get power levelled tho
:rejoice
7 episodes was such a stupid decision. They left so much plot development and characterization on the table. It feels rushed as fuck.Not really a decision so much as "here's your budget, get fucked"
7 episodes was such a stupid decision. They left so much plot development and characterization on the table. It feels rushed as fuck.Not really a decision so much as "here's your budget, get fucked"
7 episodes was such a stupid decision. They left so much plot development and characterization on the table. It feels rushed as fuck.Not really a decision so much as "here's your budget, get fucked"
Why would HBO do that exactly?
https://twitter.com/tiffpeso/status/896913552266510336You truly have an impressive array of obscure source images, even indirectly.
It is funny how extremely fast the show is progressing now compared to the seasons where they followed the books.
Maybe a little too slow before and definitely too fast now.
Well I watched the leaked episode.
:whew
Best episode of the series so far. I might bump it down to merely top 3-5 on a rewatch, but definitely one of the best ever.
I long for the days when Ros and the Sand Snakes were the worst parts of the show. We have a new low with tonight's Sansa/Arya scenes.
This show's writing is Walking Dead level with a bigger budget and dragons.
Something I noticed: every time there's a scene with Littlefinger, there's ravens making noises in the background. You could faintly hear them in the background of the scene between Sansa and Littlefinger.
Bran is watching him at all times
Apparently it's true though and there's a raven sound any time Littlefinger has a scene in Winterfell this season.
And Arya should have cut off Littlefinger's fucking face and used him to manipulate Salsa
I fucking love the way you think.And Arya should have cut off Littlefinger's fucking face and used him to manipulate Salsa
Only way this could work is if Arya cut off Littlefinger's face and used it to seduce and bang Sansa.
Having to truncate (or choosing to, whichever) the last couple seasons is definitely showing up.
At this point, I'm pretty much just watching for the spectacle and closure for a story that will in all likelihood never be finished in any other way.
That was a really well directed episode that was really dumb. Having to shorten the season really killed it last night.
I had a dream last night that George is so pissed off by what they did to his characters on the show that he goes into solitude and writes TWOW and ADOS which are released consecutively the day of the series finale as a big fuck you to D&D for being hacks.
One can dream...
Man, what the fuck is wrong with me, why am I more worried about a CGI dragon dying than human characters? :-\Yeah I wish all the humans would die. Tyrion is the only one that I would be okay with living.
Man, what the fuck is wrong with me, why am I more worried about a CGI dragon dying than human characters? :-\Yeah I wish all the humans would die. Tyrion is the only one that I would be okay with living.
he looks like the guy who plays him who looks nothing like bran
I have some theories:spoiler (click to show/hide)- Zombie Dragon is how they take the Wall down. It'll still breath fire.
- Berric Dondarion will stay behind at Eastwatch or where-ever and will challenge the Night King (hinted this episode) and will get killed
- Everyone expects Cersei to pull some shit during the meeting... but I think it'll actually be Dany that spoils things. Hinted at by Tyrion saying she has a temper. Cersei will say something and Dany will react and everything will spiral out of control
- Last shot of the season is the army of the dead walking through the melted wall.[close]
I have some theories:spoiler (click to show/hide)- Zombie Dragon is how they take the Wall down. It'll still breath fire.
- Berric Dondarion will stay behind at Eastwatch or where-ever and will challenge the Night King (hinted this episode) and will get killed
- Everyone expects Cersei to pull some shit during the meeting... but I think it'll actually be Dany that spoils things. Hinted at by Tyrion saying she has a temper. Cersei will say something and Dany will react and everything will spiral out of control
- Last shot of the season is the army of the dead walking through the melted wall.[close]
Don't put your theories in spoilers! They aren't spoilers!
I don't think Dany and Jon are stupid enough to go to the wight presentation meeting wtih Cersei themselves. I really hope they aren't that stupid. Really, really hope they aren't that stupid. So it will probably happen.
I have some theories:spoiler (click to show/hide)- Zombie Dragon is how they take the Wall down. It'll still breath fire.
- Berric Dondarion will stay behind at Eastwatch or where-ever and will challenge the Night King (hinted this episode) and will get killed
- Everyone expects Cersei to pull some shit during the meeting... but I think it'll actually be Dany that spoils things. Hinted at by Tyrion saying she has a temper. Cersei will say something and Dany will react and everything will spiral out of control
- Last shot of the season is the army of the dead walking through the melted wall.[close]
Don't put your theories in spoilers! They aren't spoilers!
I don't think Dany and Jon are stupid enough to go to the wight presentation meeting wtih Cersei themselves. I really hope they aren't that stupid. Really, really hope they aren't that stupid. So it will probably happen.
Fuck, now I'm worried that Jaime is going to kill Cersei in the finale :(
I think Cersei as the main bad has run its course, I am a bit fatigued by that dynamic. Bring on full all-out war with the Night King and wrap the series up.
I think Cersei as the main bad has run its course, I am a bit fatigued by that dynamic. Bring on full all-out war with the Night King and wrap the series up.
That's why I figured she'd be dead by the end of this season. She peaked with the Sept of Baelor. Her kids are all dead and her plot has nowhere else to go.
I think Cersei as the main bad has run its course, I am a bit fatigued by that dynamic. Bring on full all-out war with the Night King and wrap the series up.
That's why I figured she'd be dead by the end of this season. She peaked with the Sept of Baelor. Her kids are all dead and her plot has nowhere else to go.
But wait, she's pregnant now
Something just stuck me as odd. The dragon zombie has the blue eyes like white walkers, the wights do not have those. Of course, I might be giving the show creators too much credit thinking they care about internal consistency.
Also, Arya doesn't really have a place in this new Westeros where old enemies are forging alliances. John Snow is in cahoots with Tyrion Lannister, and they're on the verge of calling a temporary truce with Cersei, while Arya is still stuck being a vengeful ball of rage. I imagine a Scott Evil scenario playing out with her.
Something just stuck me as odd. The dragon zombie has the blue eyes like white walkers, the wights do not have those. Of course, I might be giving the show creators too much credit thinking they care about internal consistency.
Whatever happened to the zombie baby?
And where is Euron? He just wrecked shit for a few episodes and then suddenly disappeared? Wasn't available to attack Dany's fleet huh. Oh it's all convenience plotting.
If only those pics could be a little bigger.
"I can see and know everything bro"
"What about the marriage you didn't know about, in front of a fucking weirwood tree lol"
"....fuck you"
So uh
What the fuck did Tyrion do this episode. He obviously has something going on considering him hovering at the end and them cutting off his scene with Cersei that way.
Delivered on that incest we've all been craving for :dogefinally time to go back to this show :noah
The last half of the episode owned. Ice dragon melting the wall was awesome.
I can't believe though that dumb plan last episode our heroes came up with that had no chance of working because there's no chance Cersei would possibly care resulted in the end of mankind. That's actually hilarious. Who was it that came up with that plan? Will that character realize they ended the world?
I guess the show just keeps people alive so they can have 1-2 minute "hey remember that stuff that happened to us 3 seasons ago?" conversations. The first part of the episode was largely dominated by shit like that, some being good some being ehhh. Can't help but wonder why so many characters are kept alive with nothing to do. Varys goes from having a WORLD WIDE spy ring to knowing nothing and being of zero use to Dany. Davos just travels around with Jon for whatever reason; you'd think he'd be a nice Hand but he barely gives Jon any advice during the season, and probably would have been of more use in Winterfell. Speaking of Winterfell, Jon basically left Sansa with no one who is close to him. Why the entire cast had to go to King's Landing, who knows.
I continue to be baffled by why Dany even needs a truce. She just decimated the Lannister army. They have no means of stopping her. Nor do the Lannisters have enough allies or men to significantly help. Furthermore aren't there a bunch of castles left with no one controlling them? Surely she has enough men to house Casterly Rock and Highgarden right. Wouldn't you want garrisons in Westeros to check Cersei's power...
I just don't get why they treat so much of this so trivially. There are no rules to anything. Everything boils down to what the writers want and when.
She took out the supply train and the rear contingent, but the bulk of the Lannister army made it back with the gold.
They allude to this in episode 4.
I heard there was a zombie dragon and I just want to see scenes of it doing dope shit.
Help plz
I heard there was a zombie dragon and I just want to see scenes of it doing dope shit.
Help plz
I heard there was a zombie dragon and I just want to see scenes of it doing dope shit.
Help plz
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I guess the show just keeps people alive so they can have 1-2 minute "hey remember that stuff that happened to us 3 seasons ago?" conversations. The first part of the episode was largely dominated by shit like that, some being good some being ehhh. Can't help but wonder why so many characters are kept alive with nothing to do. Varys goes from having a WORLD WIDE spy ring to knowing nothing and being of zero use to Dany. Davos just travels around with Jon for whatever reason; you'd think he'd be a nice Hand but he barely gives Jon any advice during the season, and probably would have been of more use in Winterfell. Speaking of Winterfell, Jon basically left Sansa with no one who is close to him. Why the entire cast had to go to King's Landing, who knows.
I continue to be baffled by why Dany even needs a truce. She just decimated the Lannister army. They have no means of stopping her. Nor do the Lannisters have enough allies or men to significantly help. Furthermore aren't there a bunch of castles left with no one controlling them? Surely she has enough men to house Casterly Rock and Highgarden right. Wouldn't you want garrisons in Westeros to check Cersei's power...
I just don't get why they treat so much of this so trivially. There are no rules to anything. Everything boils down to what the writers want and when.
I think I moved beyond nitpicking about things like this now in this show, I'm in too deep , I just want to see how it all pans out.
Why would they even know who that was? This is the first time Dany had ever seen the White WalkersYou know what Muhdragons could have done? Blast the NK and his Lieutenants into oblivion instead of spending 10mins burning the lvl1 mobs. Because they were all standing nicely on the horses in a tight pack, doing fuck all.
Assuming they're even capable of killing him, which is by no means a sure thing.
She was told everything anyone probably ever knew (at least for the past few thousand years) from first hand encounters by Jon.They learned this fact in this very episode, there was no way for her to know any of this.
Why wouldn't Jon tell her all the pertinent details about the WW when he spent days at Dragon stone?There's several details he didn't know about though.
My memory is hazy. Didn't Sam kill a WW before and also Jon and they saw the wights crumble? Not sure.No, they just learned it. Beric was talking about it when they were trapped.
She's pretty reckless with the dragons in general. Despite events pointing to the contrary she still seems to believe that they are invincible. The dragon got hurt two times, previously, once when she attacked the Lannister army and before that when the Harpy people attacked the dragon.
Raist, I don't believe Daenerys had met Berric at that point.
You're somehow missing the worst part off that scene and why it seems awful, and that's why the fuck did Jon keep running around killing wights instead of jumping on the dragon.
Rewatch it. They were waiting for Jon to get on when Viserion goes down, and still waiting for him before they had to take off. Like I said, it's a weird thing to get hung up on when the rest of the episode makes little logical sense.She's pretty reckless with the dragons in general. Despite events pointing to the contrary she still seems to believe that they are invincible. The dragon got hurt two times, previously, once when she attacked the Lannister army and before that when the Harpy people attacked the dragon.
Raist, I don't believe Daenerys had met Berric at that point.
He was sitting on the same dragon wasn't he? They could have ended it right there. Unless wights can fly, once they were on Drogon they were pretty safe. Just had to dodge NK's aim, but he quite clearly can't noscope either so.
Yes, absolutely. However, I don't think her actions once she got there were stupid. Everyone was about to be overrun; her primary objective was to gtfo with everyone alive. Then one of her dragons got killed. So no, I don't think having her notice a small group of dead dudes on horses set back from the main battle when she's in the thick of it is a cause for complaint.
Now, the whole scenario IN GENERAL is stupid and her rushing off is certainly stupid. But her actions once she's up there? Nope.
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Brehs, just because Bran can see everything doesn't mean he's seen everything. :doge
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in the shows defense, it was cut out for a reason. which was to make the story that Arya and Sansa were plotting the entire time. It's one of those situations where the editing can change the story.
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in the shows defense, it was cut out for a reason. which was to make the story that Arya and Sansa were plotting the entire time. It's one of those situations where the editing can change the story.
"But then I remembered that Podrick is like the Lex Steele of Westeros. Which again makes me wonder why dude is up north failing at being a knight when he could be down in sunny King’s Landing doing porn parodies like Stone in the Sept 6 or Put’em on The Dragon Glass 12."
It's not That Dude From The Coli Whose Name I Can't Remember level of recap, but I'll take it.
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PD, relevant to your interests:Quote"But then I remembered that Podrick is like the Lex Steele of Westeros. Which again makes me wonder why dude is up north failing at being a knight when he could be down in sunny King’s Landing doing porn parodies like Stone in the Sept 6 or Put’em on The Dragon Glass 12."
Hound ask who’s protecting her and Brienne is like, yo…you don’t know the half son. Arya is a fuckin’ sociopath now bruh. Like empathy does not compute, T-1000 type shit. Half the North might be merked by the time I make it back.
Cersei got the same face we all got when Steve Bannon says he’s part of a race with superior genes and we all like…but you can see yourself, right?