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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Great Rumbler on June 13, 2017, 01:31:22 PM

Title: Metroid is back, Nintendo wins E3 [i]again[/i] :rejoice
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 13, 2017, 01:31:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhOx-FpEAQk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFbDmTjS_MI

Nintendo does it again, baby. :patel he_cant_keep_getting_away_with_it.gif
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Post by: seagrams hotsauce on June 13, 2017, 01:41:42 PM
those 3ds graphics  :kobeyuck

4 will come out between Shenmue 3 and FFVIIRM
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Post by: bork on June 13, 2017, 01:57:08 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/idshbqa.png)
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Post by: Positive Touch on June 13, 2017, 01:58:39 PM
eh is not like the team on it is working on something unfamiliar. I wouldn't see why there's be big delays.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on June 13, 2017, 02:00:38 PM
eh is not like the team on it is working on something unfamiliar. I wouldn't see why there's be big delays.

And Retro's been quiet for a while now, so I wouldn't be surprised if this has been knocking for a year or so. Still probably looking at a late-2018 release, though.
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Post by: bork on June 13, 2017, 02:06:49 PM
Is Prime 4 going to (hopefully) be the first Prime game that can be played with dual analog sticks on a controller?
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Post by: Tasty on June 13, 2017, 02:08:58 PM
those 3ds graphics  :kobeyuck

4 will come out between Shenmue 3 and FFVIIRM

One of these is by a publisher that announces games before their release 12 months later at most.

One of these is a Kickstarter game that just got delayed an entire year.

One of these is episodic and in a series where the last mainline game took over 10 years from announcement to release.

Will leave it up to you which is more likely to come out on-time.
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Post by: Tasty on June 13, 2017, 02:12:27 PM
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Retro Studios helped usher Metroid into the third dimension with the Metroid Prime series, but they aren’t working on Metroid Prime 4.

Nintendo wouldn’t say who exactly is working on this new first-person adventure, but senior product marketing manager of Nintendo of America Bill Trinen said that Nintendo designer and producer Kensuke Tanabe is helping lead the project alongside a “A talent new development team.” Tanabe previously worked as a producers on the first three Prime games as well as newer releases like Paper Mario: Color Splash and Donkey Kong Country Returns, so hopefully Metroid Prime 4 is in good hands

:trigger
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Post by: bork on June 13, 2017, 02:13:37 PM
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Retro Studios helped usher Metroid into the third dimension with the Metroid Prime series, but they aren’t working on Metroid Prime 4.

Nintendo wouldn’t say who exactly is working on this new first-person adventure, but senior product marketing manager of Nintendo of America Bill Trinen said that Nintendo designer and producer Kensuke Tanabe is helping lead the project alongside a “A talent new development team.” Tanabe previously worked as a producers on the first three Prime games as well as newer releases like Paper Mario: Color Splash and Donkey Kong Country Returns, so hopefully Metroid Prime 4 is in good hands

:trigger

Could be worse.  For a second there...I thought it was going to say Mercury Steam was making Prime 4 too.  :lol
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Post by: Great Rumbler on June 13, 2017, 02:15:08 PM
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Retro Studios helped usher Metroid into the third dimension with the Metroid Prime series, but they aren’t working on Metroid Prime 4.

:trigger

Okay, now this is news I'm not happy with.

Now the question is who the heck IS developing it?
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Post by: Momo on June 13, 2017, 02:15:26 PM
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Retro Studios helped usher Metroid into the third dimension with the Metroid Prime series, but they aren’t working on Metroid Prime 4.

Nintendo wouldn’t say who exactly is working on this new first-person adventure, but senior product marketing manager of Nintendo of America Bill Trinen said that Nintendo designer and producer Kensuke Tanabe is helping lead the project alongside a “A talent new development team.” Tanabe previously worked as a producers on the first three Prime games as well as newer releases like Paper Mario: Color Splash and Donkey Kong Country Returns, so hopefully Metroid Prime 4 is in good hands

:trigger

Could be worse.  For a second there...I thought it was going to say Mercury Steam was making Prime 4 too.  :lol
I gotchu fam, we'll get Ninja Theory to make Prime 4
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Post by: etiolate on June 13, 2017, 02:15:56 PM
Hopefully someone digs up who is working on Prime 4.
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Post by: Raist on June 13, 2017, 02:17:13 PM
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Retro Studios helped usher Metroid into the third dimension with the Metroid Prime series, but they aren’t working on Metroid Prime 4.

:trigger

Okay, now this is news I'm not happy with.

Now the question is who the heck IS developing it?


Respawn.
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Post by: Tasty on June 13, 2017, 02:20:23 PM
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Retro Studios helped usher Metroid into the third dimension with the Metroid Prime series, but they aren’t working on Metroid Prime 4.

:trigger

Okay, now this is news I'm not happy with.

Now the question is who the heck IS developing it?

Internal Nintendo team at Kyoto + (rumored) help from a European developer.
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Post by: Tasty on June 13, 2017, 02:20:47 PM
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Retro Studios helped usher Metroid into the third dimension with the Metroid Prime series, but they aren’t working on Metroid Prime 4.

Nintendo wouldn’t say who exactly is working on this new first-person adventure, but senior product marketing manager of Nintendo of America Bill Trinen said that Nintendo designer and producer Kensuke Tanabe is helping lead the project alongside a “A talent new development team.” Tanabe previously worked as a producers on the first three Prime games as well as newer releases like Paper Mario: Color Splash and Donkey Kong Country Returns, so hopefully Metroid Prime 4 is in good hands

:trigger

Could be worse.  For a second there...I thought it was going to say Mercury Steam was making Prime 4 too.  :lol

:dead I would have laughed so hard. :lol
Title: Re: Metroid is back, Nintendo wins E3 [i]again[/i] :rejoice
Post by: Tasty on June 13, 2017, 02:25:57 PM
http://kotaku.com/metroid-samus-returns-announced-for-3ds-1796061273

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  • Samus now has free-aiming; you can point her arm cannon with a full 360-degree range of motion.
  • Samus has a Melee Counter: Right before an enemy charging at you hits your body, you can press X to knock them away and score a counter hit.
  • “Aeion abilities” are a new feature not in the original, giving Samus different abilities that are not suit upgrades. They’re limited abilities that rely on an energy gauge. One, called “Scan Pulse,” lets you display more of the game’s mini-map in a small area around you, showing you where hidden pathways and items are.
  • Like the original Game Boy game, you’re hunting down Metroids right from the get-go, and you have a Metroid detector to let you know they’re nearby.
  • You can use “map pins” to remind yourself to visit a location later once you have a new ability.
  • Metroid fights use the Melee Counter, too; the Alpha Metroid Samus goes up against has a highly-telegraphed charge slam that you can counter, to open him up for a damage opportunity.
  • The game’s soundtrack is being composed by two of the composers from the SNES game Super Metroid.
  • You can load up a menu seemingly at any time and return yourself to the “Last Checkpoint” or the “Last Save.”
  • The game does have 3D effects. (Hey, these days with 3DS games that’s not exactly a given...)
  • Going by the menu screen, it would seem as if there are 40 total Metroids (of different evolutions) scattered about the game for you to take down.
  • Samus acquires the Spring Ball not by finding a statue, but by defeating an evolved Metroid.
  • You can bomb-jump. (Respect to the Treehouse lady who did a bomb jump live on stream.)
  • Samus Returns has “Teleport Stations” that let you fast travel between areas. Convenient!
  • The Varia Suit is in the game, which helps you survive in “extreme heat.” You don’t even need authorization to put it on!
  • You lose your Aeion Gauge when you get hit by enemies, too, so you have an extra incentive to fight enemies rather than just run through them taking damage.
  • There are “audio cues” that let you know when to melee the Metroids, one of the Treehouse streamers says.
  • You can use the grapple beam to rip enemies off the wall.
  • We really feel that the potential for the 2D Metroid franchise has really opened up for us,” Sakamoto says.
  • The game will have a special edition with a reversible cover and a soundtrack with 25 tracks called “Samus Archives,” with tracks from many games including Samus Returns.
  • There will be two new Amiibos for the game: Samus in her pose from the Metroid II cover, and (finally!) a Metroid Amiibo.

Seems like they're jazzing it up with Other M combat, which was probably the least offensive part of that game. :idont
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Post by: Positive Touch on June 13, 2017, 02:28:10 PM
remember that scene in Rick and morty where the computer makes the cop's son come back to life and then has him melt in front of the officer's eyes
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Post by: Raist on June 13, 2017, 02:38:37 PM
MP4 "facts" list.

https://abload.de/img/factsheet-e32017-metrlws0a.png
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Post by: Great Rumbler on June 13, 2017, 04:32:18 PM
One of the biggest problems I had with Metroid 2 [granted, I haven't played it probably 20+ years] was how it was so, so easy to get completely lost and have no idea where you supposed to go next.

Also, if that fact sheet is anything to go by, it sounds like they're going more for Metroid Prime 1 than Metroid Prime 3 [or they could be referring to those DS games], which I'm fine with.
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Post by: Positive Touch on June 13, 2017, 04:55:49 PM
I remember getting lost a lot because the scenery repeated itself so much. shouldn't be a problem since this'll be in a cart with more than a half kilobyte of memory now lol
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Post by: Trent Dole on June 13, 2017, 05:05:19 PM
Prime games steadily declined in quality imo so keeping retro the fuck away from Samus is fine by me. I guess this news means E3 sold me on ..a 3DS? :-[
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 13, 2017, 06:34:46 PM
I didn't expect them to actually announce Prime 4, legit shocked at that.

It's also really shocking to me that they're doing a very similar thing to what they did in the Gamecube era. Release a console Prime game and a hand-held title in close proximity. I think it's a much better time for the series, enough time has passed and people really want it.

I said to myself I would buy a Switch if they announced a fucking Prime game. Now I just need to find one.
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Post by: Freyj on June 13, 2017, 06:51:05 PM
please please please release 1-3 on Switch and with waggle removal
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Post by: etiolate on June 13, 2017, 06:53:09 PM
I did not expect Metroid back and I'm happy to see it return. I believe I said I'd get a Switch when they bring Metroid back proper and now I may have to eat my words.

Still need to make sure they don't Other M it up.
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Post by: bluemax on June 13, 2017, 07:21:46 PM
I kinda feel bad for Mercury Steam on this one. Regardless of how good the game turns out everyone is gonna compare it to that fan remake that already came out.
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Post by: seagrams hotsauce on June 14, 2017, 01:03:09 AM
No they won't. I hadn't even heard of that shit until they announced this.
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Post by: Tasty on June 14, 2017, 06:11:34 AM
http://www.gameinformer.com/games/metroid_samus_returns/b/3ds/archive/2017/06/13/metroid-samus-returns-looks-and-feels-great.aspx

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As I mentioned before, I did not want to stop playing. The game plays smoothly, the new counter mechanic feels great, and the ability to to scan the environment will hopefully help reduce those moments where you are exploring aimlessly without clear direction.

:idont
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Post by: bork on June 14, 2017, 07:18:25 AM
http://www.gameinformer.com/games/metroid_samus_returns/b/3ds/archive/2017/06/13/metroid-samus-returns-looks-and-feels-great.aspx

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As I mentioned before, I did not want to stop playing. The game plays smoothly, the new counter mechanic feels great, and the ability to to scan the environment will hopefully help reduce those moments where you are exploring aimlessly without clear direction.

:idont

:dunno

They also scored Castlevania Lords Of Shadow: Mirror Of Fate an 8.5/10. :doge

http://www.gameinformer.com/games/castlevania_lords_of_shadow_-_mirror_of_fate/b/3ds/default.aspx
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Post by: a slime appears on June 14, 2017, 09:28:05 AM
Mercury Steam working on this is pretty great tbh. At the very least a much better choice than Next Level Games who are a little too keen on forcing their own disjointed vision on a game.

More to the point, Mercury Steam is a highly competent developer with a solid programming team. Their co-director Jose Luis Márquez was originally a badass programmer.

Nintendo, specifically Yoshio Sakamoto, is in charge of gameplay and vision so any concerns are shortsighted.
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Post by: Momo on June 14, 2017, 10:06:42 AM
http://www.gameinformer.com/games/metroid_samus_returns/b/3ds/archive/2017/06/13/metroid-samus-returns-looks-and-feels-great.aspx (http://www.gameinformer.com/games/metroid_samus_returns/b/3ds/archive/2017/06/13/metroid-samus-returns-looks-and-feels-great.aspx)

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As I mentioned before, I did not want to stop playing. The game plays smoothly, the new counter mechanic feels great, and the ability to to scan the environment will hopefully help reduce those moments where you are exploring aimlessly without clear direction.

 :idont

 :dunno

They also scored Castlevania Lords Of Shadow: Mirror Of Fate an 8.5/10. :doge

http://www.gameinformer.com/games/castlevania_lords_of_shadow_-_mirror_of_fate/b/3ds/default.aspx (http://www.gameinformer.com/games/castlevania_lords_of_shadow_-_mirror_of_fate/b/3ds/default.aspx)
the fuck is wrong with this guy  :trash :stahp
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Post by: Tasty on June 14, 2017, 10:29:09 AM
Mercury Steam working on this is pretty great tbh. At the very least a much better choice than Next Level Games who are a little too keen on forcing their own disjointed vision on a game.

More to the point, Mercury Steam is a highly competent developer with a solid programming team. Their co-director Jose Luis Márquez was originally a badass programmer.

Nintendo, specifically Yoshio Sakamoto, is in charge of gameplay and vision so any concerns are shortsighted.

Wrath, bork and Lager 🔥 B T F O 🔥 by an actual dev.

Can this E3 get any better? :lawd

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NLG does make good games though. Luigi's Mansion 2 :lawd
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Post by: D3RANG3D on June 14, 2017, 10:32:33 AM
Mercury Steam  :kobeyuck
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Post by: bork on June 14, 2017, 10:38:48 AM
Mercury Steam  :kobeyuck

Yup. I'm not convinced until it's out.  And damn, a 2D-style Metroid at 30 FPS?
 :jeanluc
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Post by: Tasty on June 14, 2017, 11:17:22 AM
The unparsed BBCode tags in the thread title are triggering me more than anything tbh :trigger
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Post by: Coax on June 14, 2017, 11:45:33 AM
The unparsed BBCode tags in the thread title are triggering me more than anything tbh

Was going to suggest Unicode instead (𝘢𝘨𝘢𝘪𝘯) but figured who cares
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Post by: benjipwns on June 14, 2017, 11:46:46 AM
http://www.gameinformer.com/games/metroid_samus_returns/b/3ds/archive/2017/06/13/metroid-samus-returns-looks-and-feels-great.aspx (http://www.gameinformer.com/games/metroid_samus_returns/b/3ds/archive/2017/06/13/metroid-samus-returns-looks-and-feels-great.aspx)

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As I mentioned before, I did not want to stop playing. The game plays smoothly, the new counter mechanic feels great, and the ability to to scan the environment will hopefully help reduce those moments where you are exploring aimlessly without clear direction.

 :idont

 :dunno

They also scored Castlevania Lords Of Shadow: Mirror Of Fate an 8.5/10. :doge

http://www.gameinformer.com/games/castlevania_lords_of_shadow_-_mirror_of_fate/b/3ds/default.aspx (http://www.gameinformer.com/games/castlevania_lords_of_shadow_-_mirror_of_fate/b/3ds/default.aspx)
the fuck is wrong with this guy  :trash :stahp
Not the same guy, Tim Turi reviewed Castlevania.
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Post by: etiolate on June 14, 2017, 12:37:30 PM
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Nintendo, specifically Yoshio Sakamoto, is in charge of gameplay and vision so any concerns are shortsighted.

how quickly we forget
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Post by: Valkyrie on June 14, 2017, 01:44:28 PM
The unparsed BBCode tags in the thread title are triggering me more than anything tbh

Was going to suggest Unicode instead (𝘢𝘨𝘢𝘪𝘯) but figured who cares
That's why there's ** and //
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Post by: Positive Touch on June 14, 2017, 01:47:37 PM
lol i was wondering why fandrex was getting so defensive over a series he doesn't even like; almost forgot the whole fanboy shill thing
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Post by: Coax on June 14, 2017, 01:57:07 PM
That's why there's ** and //

I use this on IRC. It's just the visualization of the BBCode was too strong :p
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Post by: Human Snorenado on June 14, 2017, 02:06:39 PM
lol i was wondering why fandrex was getting so defensive over a series he doesn't even like; almost forgot the whole fanboy shill thing

It's literally what his existence revolves around

 :neogaf
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 14, 2017, 02:27:58 PM
30 fps for a metroid game is unforgivable
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Post by: bork on June 14, 2017, 02:54:11 PM
30 fps for a metroid game is unforgivable

Watch this get an HD port to Switch six months later.
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Post by: bork on June 14, 2017, 03:11:40 PM
Back to the game. If I think any part of the gameplay itself is worrying, it's the melee counter. It changes things about the formula that I'm not sure I want.

At the end of the day, if this doesn't turn out well, there's always AM2R or Bloodstained.
:rejoice
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Post by: Trent Dole on June 14, 2017, 03:11:49 PM
30 fps for a metroid game is unforgivable

Watch this get an HD port to Switch six months later.
:gladbron
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Post by: Tasty on June 14, 2017, 03:38:36 PM
A lot of us are cautious about Mercury Steam's involvement

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............... nintendo how fucking dare you

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Mercurysteam
Literal cancer.

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No, it's Mercury Stream.  Hype completely deflated now.

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mercury steam gets to kill off two of my favorite childhood franchises. why is this happening

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I take it you haven't played a Mercury Stream game before.

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whatever; i don't know shit about it and I'm just freaking out right now.
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"cautious"

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You freaked out more on Twitter than you did here for the record, but quickly reigned it in, so props there.
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I'm not sure why any of you think Sakamoto being in charge of gameplay would ease anybody's concerns.

Sakamoto's always been very solid with gameplay (weird FPS mode in Other M notwithstanding), it's the story where he started to lose the plot - and which thankfully is already pretty set in stone by virtue of this being a remake.

I dunno, I was watching the stream and thinking "this looks pretty cool for a Metroid game" and then I come on the Bore and everyone's Chicken Littling over the developer. Seemed discordant.

lol i was wondering why fandrex was getting so defensive over a series he doesn't even like; almost forgot the whole fanboy shill thing

It's literally what his existence revolves around

 :neogaf

Wouldn't do it if you didn't make it so worthwhile, boo.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/2iPgHdvFGl1kc/giphy.gif)
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Post by: Tasty on June 14, 2017, 03:40:40 PM
Back to the game. If I think any part of the gameplay itself is worrying, it's the melee counter. It changes things about the formula that I'm not sure I want.

At the end of the day, if this doesn't turn out well, there's always AM2R or Bloodstained.
:rejoice

Hmm, would Bloodstained be a good substitute? Metroid II predates Metroidvania's start (SotN) that Bloodstained is mostly inspired by.
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Post by: Tasty on June 14, 2017, 03:42:02 PM
30 fps for a metroid game is unforgivable

Watch this get an HD port to Switch six months later.

I can't imagine them doing much to it if they did. Jumping it from 240p to 1080p, upping it to 60fps, and maybe cleaning up the textures if we're lucky.

On the other hand I could easily see this hitting a 3DS VC on Switch, if that ever happens.
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Post by: etiolate on June 14, 2017, 03:49:19 PM
Other M's gameplay was completely unremarkable. Underneath the flashy action moves was an often wonky and always shallow play experience with amateur level design.
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Post by: Raist on June 14, 2017, 04:19:49 PM
Good lord what happened to this thread.
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Post by: etiolate on June 14, 2017, 04:33:05 PM
Other M's gameplay was completely unremarkable. Underneath the flashy action moves was an often wonky and always shallow play experience with amateur level design.

And let's not forget how it's all tied to a terrible control scheme. I really don't like this revisionist history of Other M being bad because of just narrative, that game was a disaster on all fronts.

That apparently Team Ninja advised against, but which Sakamoto was determined to stick to against all else. As if a NES pad was somehow key to the game being 2d.
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Post by: Trent Dole on June 14, 2017, 04:38:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BCPx2SX7Hk
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Post by: Tasty on June 14, 2017, 04:48:14 PM
Good lord what happened to this thread.

(https://68.media.tumblr.com/5c5f6e6ccf658c6b72e00af94162be3a/tumblr_inline_nknwis9Euj1s77xmy.gif)
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Post by: Great Rumbler on June 14, 2017, 05:18:10 PM
Good lord what happened to this thread.

nintendorks who pretend not to be nintendorks anymore + unabashed nintendorks
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 14, 2017, 06:06:44 PM
The unparsed BBCode tags in the thread title are triggering me more than anything tbh :trigger
:noah
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Post by: Great Rumbler on June 14, 2017, 06:18:16 PM
Good lord what happened to this thread.

nintendorks who pretend not to be nintendorks anymore + unabashed nintendorks

Welcome back to the fold, brother.

I never left, breh. :patel

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Except for the Wii U, which was obviously DOA almost from start. But I have played a lot of Xenoblade Chronicles X, beat Breath of the Wild on Wii U, and intend to play Tokyo Mirage Sessions eventually.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 14, 2017, 07:52:33 PM
Why isn't this cel shaded
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Post by: etiolate on June 14, 2017, 07:52:58 PM
I have been out of the console game for awhile due to all the games I want also being on PC.
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Post by: Huff on June 14, 2017, 09:55:23 PM
they just just do a HDish version super metroid


please
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Post by: Huff on June 14, 2017, 10:17:15 PM
nah i wish though
Title: Re: Metroid is back, Nintendo wins E3 [i]again[/i] :rejoice
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 14, 2017, 10:26:07 PM
The unparsed BBCode tags in the thread title are triggering me more than anything tbh :trigger

I'll let you in on a little secret: I did this purposefully. :doge
Title: Re: Metroid is back, Nintendo wins E3 [i]again[/i] :rejoice
Post by: a slime appears on June 15, 2017, 08:56:27 AM
I hope MP4 turns out well. :-\

Nintendo managed to turn Retro around and put out a stellar series of games though so there's hope they can do the same with their new team.
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Post by: wsippel on June 15, 2017, 02:32:49 PM
I'm assuming NLG is working on Metroid Prime 4. That series does need some ingenuity and western design input as Nintendo doesn't have extensive insight on how to craft a story-driven FPS.

While I threw some shade at NLG since they apparently have difficulty taking design direction or meshing with Nintendo's "global audience" vision, they do thrive when the leash isn't as tight.

Wasn't a new internal team confirmed? That rules out NLG, as they're neither new nor internal. I think it's either developed in Japan, or by a new team at NST, or maybe even NERD? They were supposed to be a tech studio, and the early employees were mostly engine and low level programmers, but they also started hiring artists and actual game developers about a year ago. A Metroid made in France could work out really, really well.
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Post by: a slime appears on June 15, 2017, 02:35:00 PM
I'm assuming NLG is working on Metroid Prime 4. That series does need some ingenuity and western design input as Nintendo doesn't have extensive insight on how to craft a story-driven FPS.

While I threw some shade at NLG since they apparently have difficulty taking design direction or meshing with Nintendo's "global audience" vision, they do thrive when the leash isn't as tight.

Wasn't a new internal team confirmed? That rules out NLG, as they're neither new nor internal. I think it's either developed in Japan, or by a new team at NST, or maybe even NERD? They were supposed to be a tech studio, and the early employees were mostly engine and low level programmers, but they also started hiring artists and actual game developers about a year ago. A Metroid made in France could work out really, really well.

Yeah I didn't read the fact sheet they put out announcing a brand new development team which is why I edited my post, lol.

I don't know who it is but I have a hunch. Yours is a pretty good guess.
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Post by: bork on June 15, 2017, 02:59:34 PM

Bloodstained ain't looking too hot either, breh.


SHUT YO MOUTH

I trust Iga and his crew to make a good (2D) MetroidVania.  Not worried at all...the demo was good.
Title: Re: Metroid is back, Nintendo wins E3 [i]again[/i] :rejoice
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 24, 2017, 12:40:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOrkRW2NPQ8
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Post by: Himu on August 24, 2017, 01:02:15 PM

Bloodstained ain't looking too hot either, breh.


SHUT YO MOUTH

I trust Iga and his crew to make a good (2D) MetroidVania.  Not worried at all...the demo was good.

I feel like the only one who remembers that by order is ecclesia castlevania and the metroidvanis concept was overdone and well and cooked. They clearly weren't making great games anymore.
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Post by: bork on August 24, 2017, 02:23:24 PM

Bloodstained ain't looking too hot either, breh.


SHUT YO MOUTH

I trust Iga and his crew to make a good (2D) MetroidVania.  Not worried at all...the demo was good.

I feel like the only one who remembers that by order is ecclesia castlevania and the metroidvanis concept was overdone and well and cooked. They clearly weren't making great games anymore.

They had low budgets and were stuck re-using assets, IIRC.  They still made very good, playable games.  The worst is probably Harmony Of Dissonance, but even that was fun enough once through.
Title: Re: Metroid is back, Nintendo wins E3 [i]again[/i] :rejoice
Post by: archie4208 on September 12, 2017, 03:53:52 PM
88 on Metacritic (http://www.metacritic.com/game/3ds/metroid-samus-returns) :omg

Getting my copy Friday.  :rock

Getting the amiibos a bit later.  :fbm
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Post by: Great Rumbler on September 12, 2017, 05:56:15 PM
Got my copy on preorder from Amazon. :rock
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Post by: a slime appears on September 13, 2017, 10:15:54 PM
Mercury Steam working on this is pretty great tbh. At the very least a much better choice than Next Level Games who are a little too keen on forcing their own disjointed vision on a game.

More to the point, Mercury Steam is a highly competent developer with a solid programming team. Their co-director Jose Luis Márquez was originally a badass programmer.

Nintendo, specifically Yoshio Sakamoto, is in charge of gameplay and vision so any concerns are shortsighted.

 :rejoice
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Post by: Positive Touch on September 13, 2017, 10:41:10 PM
Jeremy Parish said the game was really fun except the counter attack shit (mercury steams idea) sucked. i am hyped.
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Post by: bork on September 14, 2017, 12:09:38 PM
It's up on the Japanese eShop, but I decided not to get this.  Waiting to see if it might get a Switch port later on.
Title: Re: Metroid is back, Nintendo wins E3 [i]again[/i] :rejoice
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 14, 2017, 12:25:29 PM
It's up on the Japanese eShop, but I decided not to get this.  Waiting to see if it might get a Switch port later on.

why would you think they would ever do that
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 14, 2017, 12:37:32 PM
I dunno, I think it's reasonable we could see a Switch port in a year.
Title: Re: Metroid is back, Nintendo wins E3 [i]again[/i] :rejoice
Post by: bork on September 14, 2017, 07:53:06 PM
Well, that was fast.  Before the game even released, in fact.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEGg8-NE1ls

Now I know where those ending screens came from on GAF.  :doge

It's up on the Japanese eShop, but I decided not to get this.  Waiting to see if it might get a Switch port later on.

why would you think they would ever do that

 :money
Title: Re: Metroid is back, Nintendo wins E3 [i]again[/i] :rejoice
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 15, 2017, 09:28:47 AM
So apparently I preordered this on Amazon and I'm getting it today. Totally forgot. I need to keep better track of when I do this because it happened with Yakuza Kiwama as well.
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Post by: Jenkem on September 15, 2017, 03:05:57 PM
Other M was good.
Title: Re: Metroid is back, Nintendo wins E3 [i]again[/i] :rejoice
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 15, 2017, 03:26:16 PM
Other M was mediocre even if you completely ignored the story and cutscenes.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 15, 2017, 05:27:42 PM
This is very good
Title: Re: Metroid is back, Nintendo wins E3 [i]again[/i] :rejoice
Post by: archie4208 on September 15, 2017, 07:41:51 PM
I'm not enjoying this much at all.  Forced analog stick use is a near dealbreaker.  The level design feels very weak and I'm constantly thinking "Hollow Knight did this better".
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Post by: Great Rumbler on September 15, 2017, 10:10:25 PM
I really like what I've played so far. The controls take a bit of getting used to [and tweaking them a bit could have made them better] and it's a bit too eager to give up it's secrets, but it's definitely Metroid. Feels like it's been forever since we've had a proper 2D Metroid, Zero Mission is over 13 years old now [no, Other M doesn't count and also it's bad]. The counter attack is okay, I dunno if it really adds that much but it works well enough once you figure out the timing and it gives the developer's an excuse to use enemies that have slightly different attacks patterns from normal. I wouldn't miss it if it wasn't there, but it's inclusion also doesn't bother me. Graphics are pretty nice for the 3DS, meaning they're dated by current standards, but solid art design helps to patch over some of the deficiencies.

Also, remixed Metroid 2 OST and reworked Prime series tracks are pretty nice:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfiaLM0APa4
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Post by: Tasty on September 15, 2017, 10:35:20 PM
"Samus Returns will probably be good"    :checkit      "It's made by MercurySteam!!!!!!"
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Post by: a slime appears on September 16, 2017, 04:25:09 PM
Only two complaints:

Music, graphics, and exploration is top notch. Definitely my third favorite 2D Metroid right after Super and Zero Mission.
Title: Re: Metroid is back, Nintendo wins E3 [i]again[/i] :rejoice
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 16, 2017, 07:12:24 PM
You get the ice beam pretty early. Just shoot once or twice with that then follow up with a quick rocket and you can stop parrying if you don't like it.
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Post by: archie4208 on September 16, 2017, 07:15:28 PM
I'm warming up on the game.  It's a lot more fun once you get the Varia Suit.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Hollow Knight is still better
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Title: Re: Metroid is back, Nintendo wins E3 [i]again[/i] :rejoice
Post by: archie4208 on September 17, 2017, 12:18:40 PM
The final boss was FUCKING AWESOME.

Pretty good game outside of a shaky beginning.  Not the best Metroid game, but considering Super Metroid is the best game of all time, it's hard to beat that.
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Post by: a slime appears on September 19, 2017, 08:43:39 AM
You get the ice beam pretty early. Just shoot once or twice with that then follow up with a quick rocket and you can stop parrying if you don't like it.

I like the parry system, it's simple to initiate and timing-based, but my issue is that you do it too much and if there is more than one enemy near you they tend to do a parry attack one after another. That's very frustrating since you can't parry multiple enemies; something like a token-based attack system could have fixed that issue outright.

Anyways parrying becomes less of an focus a couple of hours in once you get the wave beam since your attacks become significantly more powerful.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 19, 2017, 09:53:07 AM
Yea. That middle part is a big hump that is pretty annoying. After that though the game really picks up.
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 19, 2017, 08:48:05 PM
I'm in Area 3, trying to get the last Metroid out of 8... p sure I need to find Speed Boost.

Feels good to be stuck in a Metroid game again.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 19, 2017, 09:55:55 PM
You don't lol
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Post by: Mr. Nobody on September 20, 2017, 01:07:05 AM
Once I got over using the circle-pad to move, I fell in love with Metroid again  :heartbeat
Title: Re: Metroid is back, Nintendo wins E3 [i]again[/i] :rejoice
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 20, 2017, 07:37:35 PM
Got varia suit, wave beam, and high jump. We in this now, boys. :whew
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Post by: Jenkem on September 20, 2017, 10:16:12 PM
Got varia suit, wave beam, and high jump. We in this now, boys. :whew

wait until you get the space jump

 :rejoice
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 23, 2017, 06:43:54 PM
Got the Plasma beam, Gravity suit, screw attack. Just fought the Omega Metroid which was an awesome fight. Looks like I'm nearing the end already  :(
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 23, 2017, 06:53:08 PM
There's actually a decent amount left after that, I was surprised
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 24, 2017, 09:34:49 PM
The boss battle against the red eye'd robot thing :bow2
Title: Re: Metroid is back, Nintendo wins E3 [i]again[/i] :rejoice
Post by: a slime appears on September 26, 2017, 08:59:23 AM
The boss battle against the red eye'd robot thing :bow2

I haven't gotten there yet but the forced running segment before that was complete and utter trash. Really brought to light that the game's analog stick use does not pair well with split second timing.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 26, 2017, 10:14:45 AM
Got the game on Sunday.  Seems fun but I'm kinda hating the analog stick
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Post by: seagrams hotsauce on September 26, 2017, 03:40:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksQA0vgKF_A
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 26, 2017, 05:13:10 PM
I agree 100% with him
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 26, 2017, 07:48:01 PM
The final ability you get  :o
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 27, 2017, 09:41:24 PM
Finished it with 100%

loved it :bow2 :heart

Feels like a warm hug to have Metroid back in my life.
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Post by: Mr. Nobody on September 27, 2017, 09:56:43 PM
The boss battle against the red eye'd robot thing :bow2

I haven't gotten there yet but the forced running segment before that was complete and utter trash. Really brought to light that the game's analog stick use does not pair well with split second timing.

The worst part of the game. The second fight is annoying but it's mostly trial and error.

Fantastic otherwise though
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 28, 2017, 09:27:36 AM
The autoscroll was definitely the lowest point of the game but I didn't find it to be that bad. The actual boss fight with the thing was great. All the bespoke bosses are really great, they utilize the skills you obtain in really smart ways. Especially the final Metroid boss.

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Post by: Freyj on October 21, 2017, 07:51:14 PM
Area 3 and it’s bullshit burrowing Metroids have almost killed my interest in this game. There are a lot of things done right here, but I really hope that the parry mechanic doesn’t return.
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Post by: Cryo on October 21, 2017, 11:42:10 PM
So does parrying truly become less important as you get stronger? I started this up a few weeks ago but didn't really get far.
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Post by: Freyj on October 22, 2017, 12:37:35 AM
Pretty much every enemy still has parryable skills that need to be avoided or parried with the later being the easier option a lot of times.

Area 4 has 3 or 4 major upgrades less than 20m in. Just putting Super Missiles in Area 3 would’ve made it considerably less annoying.
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Post by: Tasty on January 25, 2019, 10:13:23 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLIv_UXI_So

Gonna be a bit longer before it's actually back.
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Post by: mormapope on January 25, 2019, 11:07:54 AM
The Switch is getting Doom 2: Demonic Shootaloo anyways, no need for a poor man's FPS.  :doge
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Post by: paprikastaude on January 25, 2019, 11:32:59 AM
 :kobeyuck


 :piss :nintendo :piss2

e: It makes sense though. Modern Nintendo's spent so many years on crapping out the same 2D games over and over, maybe some smaller mascot things and animu along the line - of course they can't handle non-cartoony big scale action adventures anymore :doge
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Post by: Tasty on January 25, 2019, 11:43:27 AM
It makes sense though. Modern Nintendo's spent so many years on crapping out the same 2D games over and over, maybe some smaller mascot things and animu along the line - of course they can't handle non-cartoony big scale action adventures anymore

>Xenoblade 2
>Zeruda
>Odissee

:thinking
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Post by: paprikastaude on January 25, 2019, 11:51:47 AM
so nothing that needs a realistic style like Metroid Prime :idont unless you want to be lynched by the fans again, can't hide behind cel shading like Zelda (and even that looked a generation behind its initial "real time" teaser).
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Post by: Great Rumbler on January 25, 2019, 02:15:22 PM
so nothing that needs a realistic style like Metroid Prime :idont unless you want to be lynched by the fans again, can't hide behind cel shading like Zelda (and even that looked a generation behind its initial "real time" teaser).

:thinking
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Post by: tiesto on January 25, 2019, 03:26:35 PM
:kobeyuck


 :piss :nintendo :piss2

e: It makes sense though. Modern Nintendo's spent so many years on crapping out the same 2D games over and over, maybe some smaller mascot things and animu along the line - of course they can't handle non-cartoony big scale action adventures anymore :doge

Except it was Bandai Namco Singapore who fucked this up not Nintendo...
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Post by: Tasty on January 25, 2019, 03:47:44 PM
TIL Metroid Prime looks realistic
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Post by: paprikastaude on January 25, 2019, 03:54:20 PM
 ::)
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Post by: Great Rumbler on January 25, 2019, 04:51:21 PM
You okay, buddy?
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Post by: team filler on January 25, 2019, 05:10:03 PM
 :-\

just have retro make a 2D metroid in the prime universe ffs  >:( 3D prime development will take another 5 years  :'(