THE BORE

General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Wrath2X on June 14, 2017, 06:23:30 PM

Title: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Wrath2X on June 14, 2017, 06:23:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGQHQc_3ycE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GQGUGe7kDU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8cyFpns0IE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-JHFcn3qWs

WHEW.

Also good music is back, none of that "bah, bah" shit.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on June 14, 2017, 06:32:02 PM
The Wii U/3DS Marios were pretty solid, but just felt like a real step back from the greatness of Galaxy. Odyssey, on the other hand, looks absolutely incredible, definitely the kind of game that would induce me to buy a console even in the absence of anything else to play.
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Post by: Human Snorenado on June 14, 2017, 06:33:57 PM
Cultural Appropriation Hat Mario is best Mario
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 14, 2017, 06:34:06 PM
I'm not entirely sold on its style. It's a little too Sonic Adventure to me.  Also, Mario looks super slippery to control.

I'm excited though.  3D Marios are the best
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Post by: Tasty on June 14, 2017, 07:32:30 PM
Yeah the amount of "This looks like Sonic" in the E3 thread here alone was baffling. It's like, one world, and none of the gameplay matches up at all. There will also be 8000% less jank in Odyssey than SA.
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Post by: Valkyrie on June 14, 2017, 08:05:03 PM
Cultural Appropriation Hat Mario is best Mario

(https://i.imgur.com/0NTKtzV.jpg)
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Post by: etiolate on June 14, 2017, 10:15:20 PM
This game looks crazy in all the right ways.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on June 14, 2017, 10:27:59 PM
Even though 3D Land & World were fun, they never felt like full-fledged 3D Mario games. This does. That inverted pyramid level looks hella good.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on June 14, 2017, 10:31:33 PM
I'm not entirely sold on its style. It's a little too Sonic Adventure to me. 

It's not like Sonic Adventure at all. The only reason people think that is the somewhat realistic human NPC's in one zone. It helps that Mario is using it as a fun, weird zone and not the JRPG to be taken seriously shit in SA.

The issues with SA were:

-Really sucky controls, even for the time [Odyssey looks like it controls just fine]
-Throwing in lots of new characters that no one cared about [So far Odyssey has shown us Mario, Peach, Bowser, and a hat]
-Most of the "highlight reel" sections were essentially on-rails [I highly doubt this will be an issue with Odyssey]
-Starting to focus too much on story [Again, don't see this being an issue with Odyssey]

So, yeah, I'm not seeing the comparisons to Sonic Adventure at all, really.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 14, 2017, 10:38:52 PM
Until we see footage of Mario fighting an FF final boss, I wouldn't call it a Sonic Adventure game.

???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30DyYkoNH9Q
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on June 14, 2017, 11:03:46 PM
I only ever played it for like 5 minutes but I always kind of liked the idea of Sonic Adventure :yeshrug
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Post by: team filler on June 14, 2017, 11:07:22 PM
Big the Cat 444lyfe
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Post by: Great Rumbler on June 14, 2017, 11:42:01 PM
Anytime you weren't playing as Sonic in Sonic Adventure it was pretty bad.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Positive Touch on June 14, 2017, 11:44:10 PM
sonic adventure sucked ass top to bottom even at release. any other opinion is fake news.
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Post by: Let's Cyber on June 15, 2017, 01:48:41 AM
but Chao Garden tho
 :marimo
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: team filler on June 15, 2017, 02:38:29 AM
make mario great again!
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Post by: Raist on June 15, 2017, 03:48:22 AM
Cultural appropriation, ignoring consent, turning into a frog. I see a pattern there.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Trent Dole on June 15, 2017, 06:06:24 AM
Cultural appropriation, ignoring consent, turning into a frog. I see a pattern there.
:dead :dead :dead
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Post by: Valkyrie on June 15, 2017, 06:12:01 AM
Cultural appropriation, ignoring consent, turning into a frog. I see a pattern there.
:dead :dead :dead
Like being angry at foreigners for wearing kimono in Japan at the shrine during events and festivals. :rofl

I’m a strong independent dinosaur who need no Mario.
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Post by: a slime appears on June 15, 2017, 09:02:34 AM
Yo, this game looks fucking amazing.
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Post by: Dickie Dee on June 15, 2017, 09:40:45 AM
So much fuckery going on with this game :lawd
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Valkyrie on June 16, 2017, 12:50:18 AM
So much fuckery going on with this game :lawd
https://youtu.be/YGcsVQB1NAA
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Brehvolution on June 16, 2017, 03:31:53 PM
(https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/Frd5rp3FEiiADN1EETiRbd0xMi82VuEwHKCiEZk8SZg/https/pbs.twimg.com/media/DCc09y5VwAAwJ2g.jpg?width=418&height=468)
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: FStop7 on June 16, 2017, 04:24:51 PM
Lost my shit at the trailer for this. 

Is Mario even real?  Or is he just some kind of hollow, fleshy decoy that the hat uses to disguise its true nature?  Is this a Venom+black costume symbiote thing? Or more like Brainiac taking over Lex Luthor?

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tc73QOpDkbk/TWaUfDJo0YI/AAAAAAAAAaQ/_tEUgwmv5Xw/s1600/Brainiac%253ALuthor.jpg)

If this is a "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow" situation and Pauline is involved then does this mean Donkey Kong has been secretly pulling the strings for nearly 40 years?  Subjecting Mario to an endless hell in the Mushroom Kingdom by covertly aiding an otherwise moronic Bowser's schemes in order to pay back Mario for interfering with DK's plans for Pauline? 

The mind reels at the implications.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Tasty on June 16, 2017, 08:00:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NDihsmDN0Q

Looks much more engaging the Galaxy's co-op.

Man this shit looks so good, brehs.
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Post by: chronovore on June 16, 2017, 10:23:44 PM
Cultural appropriation, ignoring consent, turning into a frog. I see a pattern there.
:dead :dead :dead
Like being angry at foreigners for wearing kimono in Japan at the shrine during events and festivals. :rofl

I’m a strong independent dinosaur who need no Mario.

Which, of course, never actually upsets Japanese people. Japanese people LOVE seeing foreigners in kimono, seeing us enjoy their culture. Like, 100% consistently. As usual, the people angry on the Japanese' behalf don't know what the fuck they're talking about.
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:expert
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Post by: tiesto on June 17, 2017, 12:14:58 AM
Yup, unlike the GAF progressive who doesn't ever go out of their basement, I actually interact with plenty of foreign nationals and a large, diverse group of people on a regular basis. And they usually love when I show any kind of interest or knowledge about their culture. I can't wait until the GAF progressive gets so far gone they'll yell at you for 'cultural appropriation' for ordering takeout Chinese :P
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 17, 2017, 02:03:57 AM
I love it too when people from other cultures use stuff from mine like electricity, nuclear energy, internet, mobile phones. Don't know why it would offend anyone. I don't think its bad people adopt these things from white culture.
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Post by: etiolate on June 17, 2017, 02:28:19 AM
One day Poland will use stuff from its culture as well.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 17, 2017, 03:10:36 AM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Post by: Raist on June 17, 2017, 03:12:27 AM
One day Poland will use stuff from its culture as well.


Vodka?
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 17, 2017, 03:14:13 AM
Dunno why yall offended again

So sharing clothes is ok, but world views and science is offending?
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: curly on June 17, 2017, 05:58:25 AM
https://twitter.com/g0m/status/874669931215933440
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 17, 2017, 10:25:54 AM
Dunno why yall offended again

So sharing clothes is ok, but world views and science is offending?

We're just upset that you're trying to steal the internet from Al Gore. That isn't cool.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: chronovore on June 22, 2017, 06:37:13 PM
Dunno why yall offended again

So sharing clothes is ok, but world views and science is offending?

I can't, of course,  know your intent, but your statement was unsettlingly close to the things white supremacists say about the superiority of white culture, and how most of the world's current inventions and technological advances have been made by white men.  My geometry teacher in 10th grade actually had written that on the chalkboard as his inspirational quote, for a mixed gender and race class. Most of us didn't find it particularly inspiring.

 Personally, I stray dangerously close to that same area when I hear about Christian people wanting the advantages of science while promoting irresponsible bullshit like intelligent design and creationism.  I would be happy to let the hardliners have access to exactly as much science as is covered by their big book,  or solely limited to the province of Christian scientists.  For anything else, they can come worship at the altar of my god: science.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: bluemax on June 22, 2017, 11:22:43 PM
My brother keeps calling it Mario 06, but I think he's too young to remember Sonic Adventure.
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Post by: Fifstar on June 23, 2017, 01:52:28 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axlkzlLwxTg

This game looks so amazing
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Post by: bork on June 23, 2017, 09:42:09 PM
That 2D transition
:lawd
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Post by: Fifstar on June 24, 2017, 01:40:16 AM
That 2D transition
:lawd

With the music transitioning to a 8Bit Remix  :)
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Post by: Tasty on June 24, 2017, 01:51:16 PM
Galaxy 1 and especially 2 had a bunch of 2D sections and they were great. Not worried.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Oblivion on June 27, 2017, 05:38:14 AM
This game so far has a pretty mixed reaction from me.

On the one hand, the creepy, realistic humans NPCs and an opening theme with LYRICS feel so out of place for a Mario game.

On the other hand, Mario's controls and physics are a tremendous step up from the 3D games. Mario actually feels fun to just simply move around like he did with SM64, SMS, and the Galaxy titles. Mario from the 3D games felt sluggish and heavy and was a major reason why I couldn't get into those games, so it's nice to see Nintendo ditching that.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on July 12, 2017, 03:17:10 PM
https://youtu.be/sb5JfVi5bZY
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Post by: Tasty on July 12, 2017, 03:20:49 PM
The trash can :lol
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Post by: Himu on July 12, 2017, 03:53:12 PM
:rofl
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Post by: Tasty on July 17, 2017, 04:17:55 PM
 :heart :heartbeat :heart :heartbeat :heart :heartbeat :heart :heartbeat

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https://twitter.com/Stealth___/status/886545967956283392
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 :heartbeat :heart :heartbeat :heart :heartbeat :heart :heartbeat :heart
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Post by: Positive Touch on July 17, 2017, 06:05:19 PM
wops can change your life
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Post by: Himu on July 17, 2017, 07:16:49 PM
:heart :heartbeat :heart :heartbeat :heart :heartbeat :heart :heartbeat

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https://twitter.com/Stealth___/status/886545967956283392
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 :heartbeat :heart :heartbeat :heart :heartbeat :heart :heartbeat :heart

Sit on bench to get a star.

10/10 gameplay

Game truly looks anti-thetical to the appeal of Mario.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on July 17, 2017, 07:21:17 PM
 :confused
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Post by: Himu on July 17, 2017, 07:25:56 PM
:confused

When I think of Mario, I definitely think of sitting on a bench and being rewarded for it.
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Post by: Himu on July 17, 2017, 09:04:55 PM
Aren't moon pieces the new stars/shines?

I don't recall ever getting any star in 64 with that little effort. Even if it's bringing the baby penguin to the mom it still takes some effort. But nope. Just sit on this bench. 💩 It'd be fine if they'd show actually good platforming but they don't. Break this rock. Sit on this bench. Talk to this npc.

It looks turrible. Might have to get a cheap Wii u for my Mario fix this fall because this game looks awful in every sense of the word.
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Post by: Himu on July 17, 2017, 09:12:04 PM
The worst thing about this game is that it is literally the only 3d platformer on the market now and their response? Not tight 3D Mario platforming in the vein of Galaxy but the above. If there's one thing we needed it was another sandbox game.

:stop
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Post by: Trent Dole on July 18, 2017, 02:35:31 AM
I think it looks cool. :-[ But I'm Switchless at the moment and that probly ain't changing until the first price drop.
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Post by: Tasty on July 18, 2017, 12:01:18 PM
How about we like, wait until it's out

Or is that too crazy an idea
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Post by: Human Snorenado on July 18, 2017, 12:58:26 PM
Queen's been on a consistent "the only good games are challenging games" kick for a while now, so at least she's consistent?
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on July 31, 2017, 12:41:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF0t0G07Ghs

Nice newer video from I believe comic-con.  Looks fun.
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Post by: Himu on July 31, 2017, 01:10:28 PM
Toad is cute as usual. :heart The rest look like filler. Nintendo better give a single reason for a traditional Mario fan to get this by release. Passing on it and getting a Wii u instead at this point.

I'm making a prediction in that gamers - like usual - are blinded about this game due to hype. A - like usual - will come to find it disappointing. Game reeks of another Fallout 4 from all Nintendo has showed on it in contrast with the orgasmic reactions from the player base.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on July 31, 2017, 01:24:02 PM
well I like jumping on shit so there
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Post by: nachobro on July 31, 2017, 01:59:58 PM
ya mario is usually good, even sunshine was fun. i'm not concerned
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Post by: Joe Molotov on July 31, 2017, 03:46:52 PM
She's got a point, tho. Remember when everyone hyped up Breath of the Wild, then it turned out to be shit?
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Post by: Human Snorenado on July 31, 2017, 05:19:16 PM
I mean damn I'm probably the biggest Nintendo hater on the forum and even I'm like "nah this looks tight"

Why not troll their actual shitty games like Animal Crossing or whatever

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HAHA TRICK QUESTION ANIMAL CROSSING IS NOT A REAL GAME SUCK IT NINTHINGS
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Post by: Positive Touch on July 31, 2017, 05:40:06 PM
no it's an open world game so it's going to be just like the worst ubisoft game you can think of dont fall for the trap guys save yourselves
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Post by: seagrams hotsauce on July 31, 2017, 05:50:47 PM
Toad is cute as usual. :heart The rest look like filler. Nintendo better give a single reason for a traditional Mario fan to get this by release.

If Mario 64, Sunshine, Galaxy, and Galaxy 2 aren't reason enough to give Nintendo the benefit of the doubt that a flagship Mario title will be quality, then yeah, maybe it'll be as disappointing 'as usual'
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Post by: tiesto on July 31, 2017, 06:30:42 PM
I mean damn I'm probably the biggest Nintendo hater on the forum and even I'm like "nah this looks tight"

Why not troll their actual shitty games like Animal Crossing or whatever

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HAHA TRICK QUESTION ANIMAL CROSSING IS NOT A REAL GAME SUCK IT NINTHINGS
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I'm as big a Nintendo fan as any, but the continued love affair with Animal Crossing and Pikmin eludes me.
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Post by: Himu on July 31, 2017, 06:35:35 PM
Toad is cute as usual. :heart The rest look like filler. Nintendo better give a single reason for a traditional Mario fan to get this by release.

If Mario 64, Sunshine, Galaxy, and Galaxy 2 aren't reason enough to give Nintendo the benefit of the doubt that a flagship Mario title will be quality, then yeah, maybe it'll be as disappointing 'as usual'

Under normal circumstances I would agree. But these days Nintendo usually is transparent on what a game is and what will it have to offer. BOTW's pre release marketing was a great example. Most people are holding out that they have traditional Mario platforming in this and giving them the benefit of the doubt (which is earned). But at the same time, as said, Nintendo is VERY transparent about their software and what you can expect. And what do we see? Mario doing side diversions. Either this is all the game has to offer and Nintendo are being honest about what the product is, or they hiding some actual gameplay in this mess of diversionist dog shit.

Maybe it'll turn out well, maybe it won't. It makes sense to put faith in them given Mario's track record (which is, actually, pretty spotty considering games like 3D Land, NSMB, NSMB 2;etc) However if Nintendo had the traditional Mario gameplay people love and recognize they wouldn't be holding out. Just like how BOTW doesn't really have much in the way of traditional Zelda dungeons, and they kind of showed this point in pre-release marketing by concentrating on creating your own fun and running into mini dungeons. Guess what? That was the game. So there are only two options for the way Nintendo is handling this: 1. They are betraying their transparent software marketing to market to people who like fucking around in games and structured game experiences be damned or 2. The final game really is like this.

Either way, it begs to question why they have shown nothing that is structured or has the level design/platforming quality of past Mario's.

They certainly have earned my good will but that doesn't mean the game doesn't look like dog shit.

I never said Mario games were disappointing "like usual". I was clearly referencing gamers, their adolescence like blind hype, even when products have done nothing to earn it (like Fallout 4, which looked like shit from its reveal).
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Post by: Himu on July 31, 2017, 06:42:58 PM
But it is nice that people find playing jump rope and sitting on benches to be 64/Sunshine/Galaxy quality.
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Post by: Positive Touch on July 31, 2017, 06:46:15 PM
yup im sure that's gonna be the focus of the game
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Post by: Himu on July 31, 2017, 06:51:47 PM
You know what? You're right. From demos the focus seems to include talking to npcs, transforming into RC cars, and kicking glowing rocks. All things I expect from a Mario game. Can't wait to get a moon by doing someone's groceries and then mowing their lawn. Nintendo is redefining tight platforming by the minute.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on July 31, 2017, 06:55:56 PM
man who shat in your cheerios
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Post by: Himu on July 31, 2017, 07:03:56 PM
man who shat in your cheerios

Idk. For the record my favorite Mario games are Galaxy, Yoshi's Island, and World. I like 1, 3, 64 and love Sunshine. Galaxy is in my top 5. I'm just not seeing remotely anything I like about Mario games in it, I have watched hours of this games footage to find some semblance of appeal as a big Mario fan and I haven't. I legitimately think it looks terrible and the worst Mario game I have ever seen. :yeshrug
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Post by: naff on July 31, 2017, 07:25:59 PM
 :lol

i dont know how you can love sunshine and not like the look of this.
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Post by: seagrams hotsauce on July 31, 2017, 07:30:24 PM
But it is nice that people find playing jump rope and sitting on benches to be 64/Sunshine/Galaxy quality.

More like they don't think a single cutesy screenshot is enough to make them think Nintendo is gonna fuck up one of the two actual games for their new system
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Post by: Himu on July 31, 2017, 07:31:32 PM
Cutesy screenshot? It's in the gameplay video posted above.

:lol

i dont know how you can love sunshine and not like the look of this.

At least Sunshine had tight platforming and warp stages. Haven't seen a bit in Odyssey. Looks turrible.
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Post by: seagrams hotsauce on July 31, 2017, 07:38:55 PM
You're coming across a lot more "i want to dislike like this game" than "here are reasons this game will be bad" tbh. Ive seen the trailers itt but haven't scoured all available footage as you have, but the platforming looks fine to me and I can't begin to fathom how you can judge how 'tight' the controls are without playing it, or why you would expect the series that has defined good-feeling platforming for more than three decades would suddenly just forget how to do that
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Post by: tiesto on July 31, 2017, 07:39:40 PM
I definitely prefer the more linear 3D Mario games (3D Land and 3D World were definitely my favorite 3D Marios) to the more nonlinear (64, Sunshine) but we'll see. I'm worried that Nintendo filled it with a bunch of collectathon and minigame stuff, both being my least favorite parts of some platformers. But I'll give it a chance.
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Post by: Human Snorenado on July 31, 2017, 07:46:36 PM
I definitely prefer the more linear 3D Mario games (3D Land and 3D World were definitely my favorite 3D Marios) to the more nonlinear (64, Sunshine) but we'll see. I'm worried that Nintendo filled it with a bunch of collectathon and minigame stuff, both being my least favorite parts of some platformers. But I'll give it a chance.

:jeanluc
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Post by: naff on July 31, 2017, 08:01:17 PM
Cutesy screenshot? It's in the gameplay video posted above.

:lol

i dont know how you can love sunshine and not like the look of this.

At least Sunshine had tight platforming and warp stages. Haven't seen a bit in Odyssey. Looks turrible.

this will too.... next to galaxy and galaxy 2, sunshine is also my favourite 3d mario. it also looked, and was, similarly gimmicky according to early trailers.
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Post by: Himu on July 31, 2017, 08:18:31 PM
How is Sunshine open world? For the most part, Sunshine rail roads you. One thing you can do in one level is the only thing you can achieve.

You're coming across a lot more "i want to dislike like this game" than "here are reasons this game will be bad" tbh. Ive seen the trailers itt but haven't scoured all available footage as you have, but the platforming looks fine to me and I can't begin to fathom how you can judge how 'tight' the controls are without playing it, or why you would expect the series that has defined good-feeling platforming for more than three decades would suddenly just forget how to do that

Because you haven't watched game play footage.

The trailers are all great. Gameplay looks like a giant turd.

I'm watching this SMO from SDCC last week on IGN.

Let's see how it stacks up.

https://youtu.be/hCGCq6PYY5Q

2:49 - chasing bunny Mario 64 reference. Get Moon. Okay. That's fine.

4:44 - get moon by stomping on ground. Neat.

7:09 - 7:46 - Mario climbs hill. Absolutely zero jumping, no enemies, no obstacles. Shit design.

8:20 - Mario uses koopah monster he transformed into to get moon. ZZZ.

9:24 - finally, actual classic Mario obstacles and not an empty boring forest. :beli Let's see how it is.

The obstacle isn't bad but it's pretty clear that courses and platforming aren't the main focus. Exploring is.

Conclusion: Mario Odyssey is a generic sandbox game with a Mario skin that's a collectathon which I can get from literally sandbox game as they all provide collecting sans the Mario skin. It has three months till release and that's all Nintendo have shown with none of the classic platforming Mario is known for. If they don't show anything resembling an actual platforming game by October I'll get a Wii U instead and play NSMBU and Luigu U. I don't have to buy it, but I'm definitely disappointed that this is the evolution of Mario. It lacks literally anything I like about Mario. I am not "trying to find reasons to hate it". If you watch the above video and compare it to other Mario games this is hoping to promise a complete night and day experience,
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Post by: Positive Touch on July 31, 2017, 08:54:09 PM
now this is the shit-quality posting that made me love the bore
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: naff on July 31, 2017, 09:20:24 PM
i've probably watched the same stuff you have. from the small amount of content, it looks like they've focussed on some overworld exploration, puzzle solving and light platforming similar to what i know and love from 64 and Sunshine. Galaxy was much lighter on this, 3d land almost did away with it. i like the diversity in formula between titles.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on July 31, 2017, 09:33:23 PM
That seems kinda nitpicky. Game seems aaight to me. I don't know how you can post a video where you play as a turtle, a tree, some weird plant thing and say it looks like a "generic sandbox game". It looks like Banjo meets Space Station Silicon Valley :yeshrug
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Yeti on July 31, 2017, 09:54:45 PM
I would imagine they are really only showing early levels so of course the platforming is more simplistic to ease players into it. All the challenging/hardcore platforming will come in later stages and optional side levels
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: naff on July 31, 2017, 09:55:50 PM
^^
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Himu on July 31, 2017, 10:33:43 PM
i've probably watched the same stuff you have. from the small amount of content, it looks like they've focussed on some overworld exploration, puzzle solving and light platforming similar to what i know and love from 64 and Sunshine. Galaxy was much lighter on this, 3d land almost did away with it. i like the diversity in formula between titles.

I would imagine they are really only showing early levels so of course the platforming is more simplistic to ease players into it. All the challenging/hardcore platforming will come in later stages and optional side levels

Disagree and this shows a vast misunderstanding of my criticisms.

In Mario 64 and Sunshine, exploration is mostly aided by platforming. In those games platforming and exploration is tied. In order to find things, you need to platform. In order to get to the ship in the Bay level in 64 you need to platform. In order to find secrets in Sunshine you need to platform to get there, often requiring mastery of triple jumps combined with FLUDD.

This isn't the case here. Platforming and exploration are splintered into their own specific game areas. You explore the forest. You certainly and sure as fuck don't platform there. The platforming is limited to specific areas that the developers deem platforming. In 64 and Sunshine, the stage IS the course; in this the courses are within the stage. There's a difference between this type of design. You can take the first level in 64 as an example. You can explore all kinds of things in that level but in order to make it to the top and fight the boss you need to platform, no matter how easy it is.

The difficulty at this point doesn't matter because as said, it's early in the game. That said, the game Nintendo have revealed three different worlds and none of them have a focus of combining platforming with exploration like Mario of old. You're out doing side objectives in order to obtain moons.

Comparing them shows the design is night and day. Saying Odyssey plays similarly to 64 is laughable to me. They couldn't be further apart.

To drill this in, you can watch this video that will hopefully make my point.

https://youtu.be/AE61E-K5gi8

It seems pretty obvious that although there's exploration, platforming is the main focus. Platforming is WHY I LIKE MARIO. And absolutely none of the footage thus far has made the contention that this is a platformer first. And if you're Mario and not a platformer first, why should anyone bother playing it?

Odyssey looks terrible. It's like making a Zelda game focused on combat. Certainly Zelda has some combat, but it's pretty obvious that its main priority is exploration and puzzle solving.  And while there are some Zelda's with a larger combat focus than others, exploration and puzzle solving has been its bread and butter from the beginning. So we have Super Mario Odyssey. Exploration is fine. Every Mario has exploration in some small manner, whether it's finding how to warp in SMB1 and 3, getting everything in Yoshi's Island, or getting all the stars in 64. Even the linear ones like Galaxy and 3D Land have exploration. But they generally tie this exploration with platforming. This is what Odyssey is missing. Instead of having courses, we have big levels that happen to have courses in them. The priorities and focus is completely different.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: naff on August 01, 2017, 01:59:51 AM
 :nintendo
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on August 01, 2017, 04:54:48 AM
To drill this in, you can watch this video that will hopefully make my point.
*posts video of mario 64 that literally everyone on earth has played*
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Himu on August 01, 2017, 07:28:08 AM
You have a big thing with ignoring the bulk of someone's argument and going for petty ad hominems. Discussing things with you is frankly, fucking terrible.

Game looks like shit. Of what's revealed, has the level design targeted at four year olds. That is all. Good day.

Kat Bailey sums up my argument at US Gamer:

Quote
It begins promisingly enough. Everything is this weird, funhouse version of what the "real world" might look like. The proportions are weird and there are coin blocks everywhere. It superficially resembles New York; but outside of the somewhat realistically proportioned citizens, it might as well be another part of the Mushroom Kingdom. I kind of like it actually—it's all very "Mario."

The actual gameplay, though, is not. Upon meeting up with Mayor Pauline, you're asked to go and recruit some musicians so that she can put on a party. The first one is waiting right outside: you talk to him and he agrees to go play. The rest of the musicians are found by wandering around, racing up buildings through electric wires with your hat powers, and checking rooftops.

It's a slow-paced and frankly kind of boring process, and it's compounded by Pauline's request that you address some power troubles before the party starts. To do that, you have to collect enough coins to buy an inspector's hat and overalls to post as a city inspector. I suppose that's where you spend more time wandering around and maybe finding some levels to explore, but it didn't feel like there was much to do in the city itself.

I guess I'll come right out and say it: It fell kind of flat for me.


Is this indicative of what the final product will be? I'm not sure, to be honest. From the look of it, Super Mario Odyssey will incorporate a lot of different gameplay elements, some of it quite experimental. It's easy to complain that it doesn't really feel like a "Mario" game, i.e., it's very light on the traditional platforming elements, but that doesn't feel quite right. The spirit of openness and exploration is certainly there, if not necessarily the execution.

"Light platforming" "Mario"

Fuck out of here.

"It's a demo"

BOTW demos were pretty indicative of the final product. Rather than spend over 300 dollars on conflated twee gamer hype, of which I'm sure many will be disappointed in the end - do not trust gamer hype ever, btw - I'm getting a Wii U. At least it'll let me play BOTW and I can be satisfied playing actual Mario games and not "Mario" games.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Himu on August 01, 2017, 08:08:53 AM
Right. Fuck off.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Positive Touch on August 01, 2017, 08:22:00 AM
guys chill out. himu has seen some pixels on the videos and has clearly seen that gaming's most popular franchise is completely betraying its roots and will be low quality to boot. thirteen minutes of gameplay proves it, sorry debate over
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Himu on August 01, 2017, 08:58:47 AM
I have watched over three hours of gameplay between all of the footage on Nintendo's YouTube channel and various other channels since E3, dumbass.

And frankly,"the game isn't out yet you're criticizing pixels" is one of the lamest arguments I have ever heard.

Three worlds and over 3-5 hours of gameplay footage viewed is enough to critique I feel.

But nope. Let's joke at my expense. Humanity is dog shit.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: naff on August 01, 2017, 09:07:24 AM
spicy.

you're taking it to 11 making statements as though indisputable fact about the game's quality, that doesn't really facilitate discussion. SMO might be universally terrible, Kenta Motokura may commit Seppuku for embarrassing Miyamoto even more than when he made Wii Music, and we'll tell you you were right all along. in the meantime the dumpster's that way.

:ufup
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Tasty on August 01, 2017, 09:28:57 AM
This is too dumb even for me.

(http://www.abload.de/img/z3_1_2dftl.gif)
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Positive Touch on August 01, 2017, 09:37:19 AM
And frankly,"the game isn't out yet you're criticizing pixels" is one of the lamest arguments I have ever heard.

lolz
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Raist on August 01, 2017, 01:13:30 PM
SMO reminds me of Jak II. And not in a good way.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on August 01, 2017, 01:55:39 PM
Dude, it's not an ad hominem to point out that you're being incredibly condescending by posting a video of a game that literally everyone in this thread has played. Where have I attacked you anywhere in this thread? I think the game looks good, which doesn't seem like an offensive opinion. You don't have to act like such a defensive dickhead anytime someone disagrees with your opinion.

"humanity is dogshit" lmao chillll
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Himu on August 08, 2017, 11:39:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGQHQc_3ycE

Posting because it's so hype and I hope this game is good in the end :(
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Himu on August 08, 2017, 11:44:20 PM
Dude, it's not an ad hominem to point out that you're being incredibly condescending by posting a video of a game that literally everyone in this thread has played. Where have I attacked you anywhere in this thread? I think the game looks good, which doesn't seem like an offensive opinion. You don't have to act like such a defensive dickhead anytime someone disagrees with your opinion.

"humanity is dogshit" lmao chillll

The problem is any time I present an argument, you have never - ever - argued against the actual meat of the reply and always - always - go for the one thing you disagree. I just see it as shit posting tbh, because it's the exact opposite of how I do things. I'll tell you why I feel a way and how I got there. I just don't think it's possible to discuss things with you. To show how bad this "discussion" was, I said the same thing on youtube that I did here and that's "Super Mario Odyssey looks like shit." The Youtube comments were far more helpful and could understand where I was coming from once I explained why I felt that way. They gave me far more confidence in this game than the past two pages combined. From Youtube comments!
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Positive Touch on August 09, 2017, 12:25:47 AM
you said something shitty on YouTube and got people to agree with you, and you're surprised by this because...
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2017, 12:27:55 AM
They actually didn't agree with me. They disagreed heavily but they explained why they felt I was wrong instead of insulting me.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on August 09, 2017, 02:56:43 PM
I'm not sure where I insulted you? Forgive me for not endeavoring to writing a dissertation about why I think it's silly to say a game from a historically incredible franchise looks like shit, but posting a video of the first level of a game that almost everyone who has played videogames is familiar with isn't a great way to foster a discussion. I don't care about 'giving you confidence' in the game - I'm not trying to win you over. I just pointed out how unfounded I think it is to fret about the game being shitty. If discussion with me is so fucking terrible, I'll leave you alone and let you stick to the vaunted discourse of youtube comments :lol
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: TVC15 on August 09, 2017, 08:54:34 PM
Jesus, Queen, you’re commenting on YouTube now? I think we need to have a serious talk.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: naff on August 09, 2017, 08:59:06 PM
just seemed like incoherent nostalgia rambling to me

To drill this in, you can watch this video that will hopefully make my point.

https://youtu.be/AE61E-K5gi8

still dont get posting a bob omb summit vid to "drill your point in". there's next to no platforming. also mastering the FLUDD speaks to me more as something you'd expect from an adventure game vs platformer..

the platforming was pretty ghetto in 64 too. that camera  :trash
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: naff on August 09, 2017, 09:00:14 PM
crash bandicoot was a better 3d platformer than sm64  :mynicca
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Trent Dole on August 09, 2017, 09:07:28 PM
crash bandicoot was a better 3d platformer than sm64  :mynicca
Oh shit.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: TVC15 on August 09, 2017, 09:24:14 PM
crash bandicoot was a better 3d platformer than sm64  :mynicca

I can't agree with this. It's always been an a pain to judge and land jumps in those games. Or at least the original.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2017, 09:48:26 PM
I don't even really like Mario that much, but I think this game looks great. I don't see the big deal. Some of the worlds, designs, and levels look like what I always wanted in "3D Mario".

 Aside from the human NPCs/T-Rex giving me Sonic '06 vietnam-esque flashbacks, I'm definitely way more impressed and hopeful than most games coming out soon.

 Maybe don't put so much attention on early gameplay previews and nerds over-analyzing shit for that 10 minute AD revenue. :doge

I'm sorry breh. I can say "maybe the final game will be better" but what I'm seeing is doo doo for a Mario game.

The YouTube commenter said that the demo is indeed missing things so I'm not alone in thinking the game looks sparse. I don't think I'm over analyzing anything at all. The point of these demos is to build hype and inform players what the game is about and I haven't been impressed. That said, hey I could be wrong.

Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2017, 09:50:55 PM
just seemed like incoherent nostalgia rambling to me

To drill this in, you can watch this video that will hopefully make my point.

https://youtu.be/AE61E-K5gi8

still dont get posting a bob omb summit vid to "drill your point in". there's next to no platforming. also mastering the FLUDD speaks to me more as something you'd expect from an adventure game vs platformer..

the platforming was pretty ghetto in 64 too. that camera  :trash

Saying "this looks like doo doo because most of the footage is about exploration rather than platforming" means incoherent nostalgia rambling to you? Being rewarded by doing the most simple of things is nostalgia rambling? My argument is pretty cogent.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2017, 09:56:32 PM
I'm not sure where I insulted you? Forgive me for not endeavoring to writing a dissertation about why I think it's silly to say a game from a historically incredible franchise looks like shit, but posting a video of the first level of a game that almost everyone who has played videogames is familiar with isn't a great way to foster a discussion. I don't care about 'giving you confidence' in the game - I'm not trying to win you over. I just pointed out how unfounded I think it is to fret about the game being shitty. If discussion with me is so fucking terrible, I'll leave you alone and let you stick to the vaunted discourse of youtube comments :lol

Personally, it would go over well with me if you had bothered to inform yourself of the game. Instead, at the outset you said "I haven't seen any gameplay outside the trailer" when my critique is specifically the gameplay.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: TVC15 on August 09, 2017, 10:23:01 PM
I wouldn't say I'm concerned exactly, but There's a little too much walking around and talking and not really Marioing in some of the videos I've seen. I've also seen cool-looking platforming sections, which I'm sure will be all over the place.

I can see where my Queen is coming from.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on August 09, 2017, 10:43:34 PM
I'm not sure where I insulted you? Forgive me for not endeavoring to writing a dissertation about why I think it's silly to say a game from a historically incredible franchise looks like shit, but posting a video of the first level of a game that almost everyone who has played videogames is familiar with isn't a great way to foster a discussion. I don't care about 'giving you confidence' in the game - I'm not trying to win you over. I just pointed out how unfounded I think it is to fret about the game being shitty. If discussion with me is so fucking terrible, I'll leave you alone and let you stick to the vaunted discourse of youtube comments :lol

Personally, it would go over well with me if you had bothered to inform yourself of the game. Instead, at the outset you said "I haven't seen any gameplay outside the trailer" when my critique is specifically the gameplay.
I didn't even realize that was where this stemmed from. I meant I'd watched the videos in this thread, not specifically just the trailers. I pretty sure I didn't say I hadn't seen gameplay lol
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2017, 10:47:12 PM
I wouldn't say I'm concerned exactly, but There's a little too much walking around and talking and not really Marioing in some of the videos I've seen. I've also seen cool-looking platforming sections, which I'm sure will be all over the place.

I can see where my Queen is coming from.

Yeah, and the last Mario game I played 3d Land, was brain dead until the post-game. Ugh. It just doesn't look like Mario. It looks more like a sandbox game with platforming elements. I'm truly curious who they're trying to sell this game to but I've already made my peace in that I'm no longer the target audience of any video game anymore besides maybe one genre. So I'm not sure why I'm surprised. But I'm still kind of shocked that Nintendo is trying to sell a new Mario in 2017, the footage they show barely has any platforming, and no one bats an eye. RIP.

"Get hype for this platforming-less Mario game!"

"Looks like shit. They've turned Mario into a walking simulator."

"NOSTALGIA."
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: TVC15 on August 09, 2017, 11:04:09 PM
Have faith, my Queen. I don't think Nintendo will let a major Mario game get too far away from them. Even at their weakest, like 3D Land or World or whatever it was or Sunshine, there's still always a lot to like.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2017, 11:07:17 PM
I have my doubts because of the time I beat NSMB on my ds in one sitting while on a car trip without one game over. 3d Land didn't click until the post-game. Nintendo is hit and miss with Mario. And now they're marketing Mario da Gawd to fucking trend whore gamers who want everything to be a sandbox. I'm hoping that before release they show level design that is Mario quality. So my fingers are crossed.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2017, 11:09:06 PM
I don't see why. I've watched official Nintendo videos where they've spent more time walking than jumping. It's a valid critique.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: TVC15 on August 09, 2017, 11:15:01 PM
I don't see why. I've watched official Nintendo videos where they've spent more time walking than jumping. It's a valid critique.

New Donk City in particular. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it's just like that because it's the starting area.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2017, 11:39:02 PM
New Donk looks fucking terrible.
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Post by: Positive Touch on August 09, 2017, 11:54:31 PM
WHY IS IT CALLED NEW DONK CITY
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Post by: Himu on August 10, 2017, 12:10:45 AM
donkey kong
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: TakingBackSunday on August 10, 2017, 12:22:30 AM
I like jumping on shit why does this thread need shitty thesis statements
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Post by: Himu on August 10, 2017, 12:26:47 AM
You like jumping on shit and you're excited for Odyssey? :thinking
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on August 10, 2017, 12:48:41 AM
Girl what is your malfunction
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Post by: benjipwns on August 10, 2017, 05:05:11 AM
still dont get posting a bob omb summit vid to "drill your point in". there's next to no platforming.

the platforming was pretty ghetto in 64 too. that camera  :trash
:success

crash bandicoot was a better 3d platformer than sm64  :mynicca
:huh
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Himu on August 10, 2017, 10:56:29 AM
Himu is the only person making sense in this thread.

I'm really curious. How so?
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Himu on August 10, 2017, 05:19:04 PM
Yeah and, okay,"it's early in the game" can be a good in favor for Odyssey. Except they've showed off three worlds. By the time you hit Noki Noki Bay in Sunshine or Whomp Whomp's in 64, the platforming is fully on. Yet the platforming we see in all three worlds is...well.
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Post by: Positive Touch on August 10, 2017, 09:14:36 PM
tick tock clock and that magic carpet level were fucking demonic and meet the internationally-accepted definition of torture
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Himu on August 10, 2017, 09:24:12 PM
"You've only seen the overworlds" makes no sense. Since fucking when is Mario about overworlds and not jumping on shit with timed precision? Even in 64, Sunshine, and Galaxy which have hubs, they're mostly a side distraction to the actual meat of the game: courses.

In any case we already know how the overworlds function: you use moons to unlock new worlds. These are three completely separate worlds. They are not connected. You get to them via the space ship.
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Post by: Trent Dole on August 10, 2017, 10:02:36 PM
Nothing like a new flagship Nintendo project to inspire endless arguments. :-[
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on August 24, 2017, 11:29:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdHkUZLWTd4

looks fucking great
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Post by: Positive Touch on August 25, 2017, 12:05:59 AM
lmao i finally get to hear a real Italian describe Mario. this is hilarious.
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Post by: Himu on August 25, 2017, 12:28:13 AM
Looks surprisingly okay. That looked like the best world they've shown yet, not only in terms of visual design but also exploration. There's a lot of points when watching the video where I'm left with "what's that? I want to go over there. How do you get over there?" Unfortunately,  the gameplay appear to be chock full of filler still and the focus is clearly not on platforming and not even in a traditional 3D platformer way which do tend to mold exploration with platforming. If you like exploring worlds this should be your Mario game. It's a shame too because the double jump with the hat is new to me and really cool but I'm not seeing a game where taking advantage of such abilities will get much use. Aside the from visuals the actual construction of the world doesn't leave much of an impression and collecting moons seems to have taken the collecting aspect of 3D Mario to a ridiculous degree.

Not as bad as New Donk (probably the worst Mario world I've ever seen), but it's no Freeze Flame Galaxy, Melty Molten Galaxy, Flip Switch Galaxy, or Toy Time Galaxy.
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Post by: Himu on August 25, 2017, 01:14:52 AM
https://youtu.be/eRFnE8nA3ug

:whew

I need to replay this so bad when I get my Wii U. Now that's a Mario game. Lord have mercy. :lawd
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on August 25, 2017, 10:07:34 AM
You want a Galaxy style game.  This isn't a Galaxy style game.  This is a Mario 64/Sunshine style game.
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Post by: Himu on August 25, 2017, 12:51:47 PM
64 and Sunshine are actual platformers. This isn't 64 or Sunshine style at all. How much time in 64 and Sunshine is spent exploring that much? Very little.

To test the merit of your claim, I'm going to post one of my favorite Sunshine levels: Noki Noki Bay. Let's see how much time is spent exploring. To wit, the video is slightly over the length of the video you posted above. So it's a great point of comparison.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLm8upEhc_s

Noki Noki Bay gameplay starts at 1:44.

How much time is spent exploring in this video? Almost none at all. The entire stage is a course. To say that Odyssey is 64/Sunshine style is to drink PR Kool-Aid. It's advertised as that, but isn't in practice.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on August 25, 2017, 01:43:29 PM
Alright.  You are dead set on shitting on this game so I can't convince you otherwise.
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Post by: Himu on August 25, 2017, 01:47:45 PM
Deadset? :lol I actually gave it a compliment by saying the last world they showed was okay.  :doge

Sorry for having standards.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on August 25, 2017, 01:51:55 PM
I will just add one more thing that I think I see where you're coming from – Sunshine's levels, particularly the one you linked, have a very deliberate design, with platforming being the main method of navigating around the level.  What I see in Odyssey is a combination of 64/Sunshine's overworlds and 3D World/Galaxy laser-focused platforming portions – and the focus of navigating around the large levels to arrive at those platforming challenges in Odyssey combines Mario's moveset and his ability to capture things.  So it's not a pure platformer that you're used to, which I think I understand now.

However, this is ticking all the boxes that I like in a Mario game: Creativity, really tight movement, variety in how you approach navigating the world, and tremendous art and sound design.
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Post by: Himu on September 06, 2017, 04:55:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCeomVDa3qA

Went to youtube and saw this in the corner of my eye. Another Mario Odyssey video? I didn't see this on Nintendo's channel so I thought it was new. Assumed it'd be wack like all other Odyssey videos.

But...it's not wack. :leon

It has an actual course with an actual 64/Sunshine style goal and it didn't have the player treating fucking Mario like a fucking walking simulator exploring forests and other bullshit. I I I saw some jumpin'. I really liked what I saw. THAT. That's Mario.

Best video I've seen of this game so far and it behooves me that Nintendo has not showed more of this type of Mario gameplay in their media for this game. :idont Probably going after the people who fap to large overworlds? idk.
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Post by: Himu on September 06, 2017, 05:04:04 PM
Haha! Looks at the comments.

Maybe my problem with Odyssey is how it's presented:

"This is alien... A demonstration that doesn't have the player dick around in the starting area or pause to look at everything mildly interesting?"

"I know, it's amazing! They actually went to accomplish something instead of trying to show you LITERALLY EVERYTHING! I need to research this more, I've never seen anything like it."



And sweet baby Jesus, that music :lawd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDDvd3pT56E

That video ignites my inner Mario stan. Very good video! More please!
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 06, 2017, 05:31:33 PM
Yeah, that looks hot.
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Post by: Positive Touch on September 06, 2017, 06:05:52 PM
holy shit you mean this Mario game is going to be a platformer?! who'd have thought
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Post by: Himu on September 06, 2017, 06:27:10 PM
holy shit you mean this Mario game is going to be a platformer?! who'd have thought

:beli

If you've watched previous videos you'd be able to scout the difference between this video and others.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Positive Touch on September 06, 2017, 06:38:44 PM
i didn't need to watch any videos to know this was not going to be some completely random change of pace for the series
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Post by: Himu on September 06, 2017, 06:44:02 PM
So you've been arguing this time without having watched a single video to understand why I feel this way? You're kind of a jerk TBH if so. And there is definitely a change. If you'd watch the videos you'd know either the way Nintendo is showing the game off isn't necessarily showcasing its platforming or the emphasis of the game isn't strict platforming. Most if not all the official Nintendo videos are not about platforming. They definitely have an exploration focus. There are whole 40 minute long videos where they spend about thirty minutes barely jumping. So to treat my concerns as trivial is either naive or outright dickish.

I'm guessing the levels are larger and the people at Treehouse want to show off this big massive world rather than just showing the objective's gameplay. I'll get a Switch at Christmas and see for myself. :idont
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Post by: naff on September 06, 2017, 06:47:25 PM
there have been a lot of subtle (and obvious) indications in a lot of their more non-platforming overworld / exploration and mini game focussed vids that there has also been a lot of thought put into platforming. there's a part in a video in new donk city where mario jumps out of some car mini game, hits a lamp post, rather than bouncing off grabs the pole, spins around lands on a beam and jumps around on it. i dont think you just put that level of random environment interaction in for shits and giggles. usually mario platforming is so prescribed (for good, and there will still be a lot no that no doubt), but i have a feeling there will a be a lot of experimentation with oddball (that bench star), and more challenging scenarios fucking around in the environment that won't feel as obvious or prescribed as previous iterations. emergent gameplay.
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Post by: Himu on September 06, 2017, 06:49:07 PM
Well either way, I don't like the way Nintendo is showing the game off. They're advertising it as if it's Zelda. It's really weird. Maybe Mario just doesn't demo well? :idont
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Post by: naff on September 06, 2017, 06:55:05 PM
nah, they're demoing stuff that's working really well. every casual i know that is intimidated by difficult looking games is all over this nu-mario (and Switch in general)
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Post by: Himu on September 06, 2017, 07:00:28 PM
nah, they're demoing stuff that's working really well. every casual i know that is intimidated by difficult looking games is all over this nu-mario (and Switch in general)

Ah, so it's deliberate to appeal to casuals. Makes sense from what I've made of the gameplay. Very casual-rific in terms of its design/difficulty so far.

They gonna throw a bone at the more core demographic?
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Post by: naff on September 06, 2017, 07:04:19 PM
i mean, yeah, i feel like that's been Nintendo's mantra for quite a while, but they seem to be really nailing the combo of appealing to traditional and new players alike atm.
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Post by: Himu on September 06, 2017, 07:06:07 PM
i mean, yeah, i feel like that's been Nintendo's mantra for quite a while, but they seem to be really nailing the combo of appealing to traditional and new players alike atm.

I thought Zelda BOTW demos were very core centric. :thinking So to see them go from one hit kills from mecha spiders to what's in Odyssey is :confused
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Post by: naff on September 06, 2017, 07:20:49 PM
the ads? looking em up, there are two clear winning botw vids with 12+ million views (everything else well below that) that are exhilirating but i didnt see anything that looked difficult, playing into power fantasies where you'll get to play this cool, young, androgenous character explore a beautiful environment and destroy evil. they also ignored a p key aspect of zelda, not showing anything that looked like puzzle solving in a dungeon (there are none in BOTW? haven't played..)
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Post by: Tasty on September 06, 2017, 08:11:06 PM
How about we like, wait until it's out

Or is that too crazy an idea

^
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Post by: Himu on September 06, 2017, 08:56:01 PM
the ads? looking em up, there are two clear winning botw vids with 12+ million views (everything else well below that) that are exhilirating but i didnt see anything that looked difficult, playing into power fantasies where you'll get to play this cool, young, androgenous character explore a beautiful environment and destroy evil. they also ignored a p key aspect of zelda, not showing anything that looked like puzzle solving in a dungeon (there are none in BOTW? haven't played..)

I'm thinking of the E3 treehouse demo
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 07, 2017, 05:21:14 AM
Even at the series low point (Mario Sunshine), it still controlled well.  Controls and ease of play in a main line Mario game is one of the least concerns anyone should have.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Himu on September 07, 2017, 04:13:05 PM
That's not a concern
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Post by: Jenkem on September 13, 2017, 07:35:04 PM
this game has looked amazing since day one and every time they show more it looks even better...

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Post by: Joe Molotov on September 13, 2017, 08:47:21 PM
https://twitter.com/hEnereyG/status/908105669416325121
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Post by: Tasty on September 13, 2017, 09:05:13 PM
I expected him to be harrier. :thinking
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Post by: Dickie Dee on September 13, 2017, 10:02:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKWBv-djiKk

HNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGG
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Post by: a slime appears on September 13, 2017, 10:04:21 PM
Mario Odyssey really seems to have captured the consumer and industry's imagination. Nintendo is really on-point with the game's marketing and were pretty brilliant on giving the game plenty of distance from BoTW and relying on their lesser known games to fill in the gaps. Mario Odyssey has been a long time coming.

In retrospect Mario 64 has not aged well. Still deserves all the credit though for it being an industry changing game.
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Post by: Himu on September 13, 2017, 10:10:02 PM
Are you still "concerned"?
 :doge

???

What happen
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Post by: a slime appears on September 13, 2017, 10:11:03 PM
In retrospect Mario 64 has not aged well.

lol no

I'd like to hear why you think it does. I'm not being sarcastic or making a joke.
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Post by: Himu on September 13, 2017, 10:19:04 PM
Really cute video!

Still not sold on how the gameplay looks but it's so full of the Mario personality that I can't help but smile! Really needed that today.
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Post by: a slime appears on September 13, 2017, 10:20:04 PM
Queen, buy the game when it comes out. You're going to love it.
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Post by: nachobro on September 13, 2017, 10:21:40 PM
:mouf

this game is going to be amazing
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Post by: Himu on September 13, 2017, 10:24:23 PM
Queen, buy the game when it comes out. You're going to love it.

I really hope so! Mario Galaxy is my favorite game experience next to Shenmue 1 and 2. Playing it had me in child like delight the entire time. Watching that trailer was similar to playing galaxy the first time. I'll get it! Trying to be positive and not negative.
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Post by: Positive Touch on September 13, 2017, 10:34:51 PM
this isn't what a shirtless Italian looks like
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Post by: Positive Touch on September 13, 2017, 10:39:18 PM
In retrospect Mario 64 has not aged well.

lol no

I'd like to hear why you think it does. I'm not being sarcastic or making a joke.

I'd say that even at the time i felt like it was easy more uneven than smb3 or smw, but still extremely fun even when the novelty of 3d started to wear off. it's a big game with lots of secrets and fun little touches, and (most of) the levels are still fun to explore. the camera is the biggest thing holding the game back, but it was fucking terrible even at release.
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Post by: Himu on September 13, 2017, 10:42:32 PM
Why doesnt Nintendo remake 3D Mario games
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Post by: agrajag on September 13, 2017, 11:08:08 PM
I want a super nintendo switch
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Positive Touch on September 13, 2017, 11:56:29 PM
Why doesnt Nintendo remake 3D Mario games

they did remake 64 on ds, then rereleased it on wii u
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Post by: Great Rumbler on September 14, 2017, 12:07:08 AM
In retrospect Mario 64 has not aged well.

You've been on a streak lately about being right, don't ruin it now. :ufup

But for real, though, put Super Mario 64 up against other 3D games from that period [Tomb Raider, Bubsy 3D, Jumping Flash, Pandemonium!] and it's not even close.
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Post by: agrajag on September 14, 2017, 12:37:06 AM
Mario 64 will always be timeless because even running around aimlessly doing Mario parkour is fun as fuck and never gets old.
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Post by: Himu on September 14, 2017, 01:02:35 AM
haha no one remembers pandemonium. It was all over the place back then and now...nothing.

Nights is great game from that era.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 14, 2017, 02:16:22 AM
TBF Nights is more of a 2D game with 3D graphics unlike Mario. Sure you can run around but the meat is in the 2D flying.

Mario 64 is a real 3D game.
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Post by: TVC15 on September 14, 2017, 02:42:56 AM
my favorite game experience next to Shenmue 1 and 2.

I have a lot of brainwashing/skinner boxing/fixing to do to you once I lure you into moving in with me.
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Post by: Himu on September 14, 2017, 02:48:35 AM
You will never make me forget Shenmue II!!!
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Post by: TVC15 on September 14, 2017, 03:07:43 AM
You will never make me forget Shenmue II!!!

This is going to be your "there are four lights" as you're chained to the base of my toilet, isn't it?
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Post by: a slime appears on September 14, 2017, 09:06:19 AM
Thank you, that's a great response and much appreciated!

I think the challenge with my perspective is that I also think it's timeless and deserves all the credit. However, I strongly believe that it needs to be evaluated from the context of modern design and I think it comes up short in some areas. This was practically Nintendo's first 3D game world and they were struggling with the game's engine while building the tech to support it while trying to cram a game into a meager 8mb cartridge to reduce manufacturing costs. At the time the game was and still is a genuine phenomenon that was clearly superior to everything else out there at the time but 3D game design improved dramatically, even shortly after the game's release, and Mario 64 doesn't exist in a bubble free from critical analysis.

My main complaints are the simplistic environments, technical/performance issues, basic camera collision routines with limited controls, lacking gameplay features in comparison to previous entries, incongruent boss design in relation to Mario's skill-set, and a reliance on a large assortment of simplistic goals with a limited selection of levels for an experience that felt heavily recycled.

You've been on a streak lately about being right, don't ruin it now. :ufup

Take off your nostalgia goggles.

 :miyamoto
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Post by: bork on September 14, 2017, 09:11:24 AM
I would still much rather play the 2D Marios than any of the 3D titles.
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Post by: Positive Touch on September 14, 2017, 09:30:30 AM
see i feel like the simplicity of the levels was a good thing, given that we were all trying to get used to 3d controls. who doesn't initially struggle with aiming the cannon or keeping it triple jumps straight? so having stars as rewards for that kind of stuff was good bc it forced us to practice it till we got it right. there was still plenty of room for improvement bc some of the levels just sucked (fuck that second snow level) and there was no excuse for a camera that got stuck in everything and moved during jumps. that's why I didn't omw away from it thinking it was a polished masterpiece like smb3, smw or smw2.
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Post by: Positive Touch on September 14, 2017, 09:31:31 AM
I typed all that up at work without getting busted for using my phone go me
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Post by: Himu on September 14, 2017, 11:06:31 AM
I'm gonna be absolutely honest.

When it comes to platformers, as it isn't obvious, I'm a stone cold traditionalist. I love me some 3D platforming but for me a great 2d platformer is almost a religious experience.

For me, 3D platformers and 2d platformers answer completely different questions to the platforming genre. 3D is at its best when it's about "how do I get there?" for the most part. Think Jet Set Radio Future. The game doesn't have tight timing but the puzzle is now more exploratory and the player must solve answers themselves. 3D Mario games are the only 3d platformers I can think of that still have some leeway to allow the traditional style of platforming. Think the clock tower in 64 for instance, or the Galaxy games. Still, it took me a long time to appreciate 64 precisely for the reasons Wrath articulated, with me being a traditionalist.

Basically, I find 3D Mario different enough from 2d mario while still having what I love about 2d mario to embrace. I used to think it was a competition, and that 2d won easily, but after Galaxy I think it's perfectly possible for the line to blur a bit.

Good on Wrath for acknowledging the difference in play style and preferences. When it comes to platformers, besides stuff like Jet Set, I'm definitely firmly in the 2d platformer camp.
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Post by: Himu on September 14, 2017, 11:08:59 AM
Agreed with wrath that "modern game design" means Jack and shit.
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Post by: agrajag on September 14, 2017, 12:05:19 PM
Speaking of 3D transformers, I just looked up a playthrough of DK64 and man that looks like a steaming pile of garbage. Talk about not holding up well. I'm glad I got soured on DKC3 and skipped this one entirely. Then I was back for the sweet return to form with the Returns games.
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Post by: Positive Touch on September 14, 2017, 12:17:56 PM
yep this is why I hated rare back in the day. in Mario 64 you'd hop in the volcano and holy shit here's a whole tough mini-level that you need to have good platforming skills to get thru. in bk you just bumble around a map or do some clumsy seek and find out some shit. with Mario it was exciting to explore bc you'd find all these fun and creative areas, while rare games were simple and tedious in comparison.
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Post by: Tasty on September 14, 2017, 12:54:11 PM
DKC3 really was putrid.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on September 14, 2017, 01:14:51 PM
On the subject of early 3D platformers, I think the original Spyro the Dragon has held up reasonably well. The controls are kinda fickle and the camera tended to be pretty garbo, but it's got some neat little mechanics and twists on the Super Mario 64 formula that help it stand out. Good artstyle/graphics and music, too, doesn't hurt.

That and Super Mario 64 are two of the only platformers of that era that I'm tempted to replay.
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Post by: archie4208 on September 14, 2017, 01:58:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKWBv-djiKk

HNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGG

Nintendo is releasing two GOTYs in a single year.

The madmen.
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Post by: Himu on September 14, 2017, 02:17:41 PM
Jumping Flash needs more love from you Rumbler :(
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Post by: Himu on September 14, 2017, 02:25:59 PM
Ape Escape games are great too.

Good on Wrath for acknowledging the difference in play style and preferences. When it comes to platformers, besides stuff like Jet Set, I'm definitely firmly in the 2d platformer camp.

I may like Mario 64 more than 2D Mario, but I'd say I'm in the 2D platformer camp mostly because there aren't as many good 3D platformers as there are 2D.

It's not surprising 3D platformers died out. Not only are they harder to make but most 3D platformers didnt understand the strengths of the genre. A lot of them tried to be timing based platforming like their 2d sisters but that doesn't work as well in 3D for whatever reason. 3D platformers are at their best when you're trying to figure out how to get to a certain place and you have to use an assortment of moves to get there. You witness this in Mario and Jet Set. But most 3d platformers weren't interested in that.

Honestly I'd argue 3D platformers didn't get good until around the release of Ape Escape Or Dreamcast. They kind of sucked universally besides exceptions in the 32/64 generation. It wasn't until Jak/Sly/Ratchet/JSRF/POP: Sands of Time and stuff like that came out that 3D platforming became an actual viable thing and then they died soon after. Shame.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 14, 2017, 02:31:26 PM
I still really love Banjo Kazooie.
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Post by: Himu on September 14, 2017, 02:46:26 PM
Gotta admit, the latest video got me excited fro Odyssey.  :preach

I still have my (very big) doubts, but I'm placing all faith in Nintendo. There's a section that I saw in the video that shows really interesting platforming. You jump and use the cap transformation to get an extra jump at 3:20 - 3:23. Essentially, Mario transformed into the actual platform to get a boost, then transformed out, then turned into the thing that shoots - another platform. The platforming here doesn't seem to be based around the tightness of Galaxy games, but more in line with Sunshine where you're alotted a number of tools that you can use freely to get to your destination. Which as said, takes full advantage of 3d platformings strengths. I can imagine this game has very creative platforming after seeing that bit.

I want in.
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Post by: Himu on September 14, 2017, 02:59:35 PM
Can we please talk about the cute Goombarina and how cute Lakitu Mario are?!?! This game looks so cute.
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Post by: Tasty on September 14, 2017, 03:12:14 PM
That's quite the turnaround.

:heart :heartbeat :heart :heartbeat :heart :heartbeat :heart :heartbeat

spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/Stealth___/status/886545967956283392
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 :heartbeat :heart :heartbeat :heart :heartbeat :heart :heartbeat :heart

Sit on bench to get a star.

10/10 gameplay

Game truly looks anti-thetical to the appeal of Mario.
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Post by: Himu on September 14, 2017, 03:14:07 PM
I did say I still have my doubts.

And I still think that's a stupid gameplay idea, rewarding players for doing fucking absolutely nothing. But whatever. Show me good platforming. That's all I asked for.
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Post by: Tasty on September 14, 2017, 03:18:21 PM
It's rewarding players for thinking outside the box and exploring the game's mechanics. It ties in very clearly to the game's themes of exploration and discovery.
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Post by: Himu on September 14, 2017, 03:19:50 PM
:larry

That's a good argument. I'll buy it.
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Post by: Tasty on September 14, 2017, 03:45:06 PM
:larry

That's a good argument. I'll buy it.

:rejoice Welcome to the light.
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Post by: WaveRacer 64 on September 14, 2017, 04:52:51 PM
Nintendo loves their gimmicks and this game is full of them, still not a fan of the Frisbee hat but the parts without them look just like Mario 64 and instantly give me the feels.
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Post by: agrajag on September 14, 2017, 07:36:24 PM
Have you guys seen this video? It really highlights the Mario 64 sandbox feel of this game. I can picture myself wasting hours just fucking around in this game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27SWKUt_Cus

What made Mario 64 so revolutionary back in the day is the exploration aspect. It was very immersive and Mario 64 was one of the original tentpole proof-of-concept 3D titles for the N64. But by modern standards the exploration in Mario 64 is very rudimentary; it's the platforming aspect that makes the game hold up so weel. After all these years it's still so fun to just run around and do crazy flips and shit! And IMO the two Galaxy games are light years ahead of Mario 64 in the 3D platforming department. They refined the platforming elements so much. This gamebuilds on the platforming craziness of the Galaxy games but re-introduces some of that Mario 64 exploration charm, which is the best of both worlds scenario.
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Post by: chronovore on September 14, 2017, 11:11:25 PM
I expected him to be harrier. :thinking

Wrong game company:

(https://media.giphy.com/media/3m0G5ceJkjSYo/giphy.gif)
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Post by: benjipwns on September 15, 2017, 01:49:01 AM
On the subject of early 3D platformers, I think the original Spyro the Dragon has held up reasonably well. The controls are kinda fickle and the camera tended to be pretty garbo, but it's got some neat little mechanics and twists on the Super Mario 64 formula that help it stand out. Good artstyle/graphics and music, too, doesn't hurt.

That and Super Mario 64 are two of the only platformers of that era that I'm tempted to replay.
good to hear, haven't touched that game since then. I remember Ripto's Rage being my favorite
The first game is more simplistic but Spyro builds upon the multi-tier objectives system. There's a once through to the exit level way. There's getting all the gems. There's getting the egg thief. You can play entire levels accomplishing the bulk of the goals and not see half the map. Even like the second level has a straight path to the exit and you can be done in a minute or so, but there's a whole underground part to collect all the gems. Heck, the very first level requires you to glide "outside" the level from a high point to get all the gems. And even the hub world requires you to jump off the map.

I thought 3 went a bit far in adding in friends and skateboarding and crap.

Ripto's Rage might have been the sweet spot, as the first game really has no serious challenge aspect to it, just exploration. Plus 2 adds in where you come back with later acquired abilities.

I like them more than Mario 64 as I never liked many of the level designs in Mario 64 as much. Spyro has less that he can do but he always needs to do all of it and it's quite hard for him to accidentally misfire and die. Mario 64 contains too many parts that I imagine would not be in the game or altered if the game had not been tied so directly to the console, even with the delays it was already given. To use a completely different game, David Jaffe admitted they never truly playtested the part in God of War where you're trying to climb the spinning wall of spikes. It brings the pacing of the game to a crashing halt. (Much like the box part with the archers early on.) Mario 64, in my memory, has too many components like that for me to place it in the pantheon as others do or did rather than it just being a very good game. Which is still praise but not for our best thing ever/worst garbage ever internet requirements.

I haven't played it in forever though. I watched some of dunkey's playthrough for some reason one day a few months ago, it reminded me of those parts I disliked more than what I enjoyed.

I've always wondered what Super Mario 64 2 would have been like, now that they had the teething of working in 3D out of the way. Especially after finishing Zelda too. It seems hard to believe that Sunshine was the only Mario game during that time rather than there being some kind of sequel that got scrapped. Now decades later I don't wonder if maybe it had something to do with the 64DD fiasco and would it have been related to a level creator. Mario Maker 64.

IIRC, Nintendo during that whole period and until Rare got sold previewed or named a lot of games that would just never appear again. Hell, Kirby's Air Ride was the only playable game other than Mario 64 at the N64 Shoshinkai but didn't actually come out for another eight years on another platform.

Speaking of 3D transformers, I just looked up a playthrough of DK64 and man that looks like a steaming pile of garbage. Talk about not holding up well. I'm glad I got soured on DKC3 and skipped this one entirely. Then I was back for the sweet return to form with the Returns games.
DK64 was garbage at the time. That is the one "64" game I will fight people about. That and anyone who says Jet Force Gemini was great. (That was developed by the Blast Corps team plus Diddy Kong Racing people rather than making a Blast Corps 2 which would have put Sony out of business immediately and forever. And still could, if Nintendo cared to listen to the people.)

But it's also why we got the expansion pak. Rare couldn't fix a game breaking bug in DK64, but using the pak prevented it. So thanks for that weak ass coding that needed twice the system RAM, Rare.
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Post by: Positive Touch on September 15, 2017, 07:23:46 AM
mario 128

believe
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Post by: a slime appears on September 15, 2017, 08:34:28 PM
I don't make platformers but sometimes I wish I did. :-\
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Post by: Jenkem on September 15, 2017, 09:22:44 PM
at least Queen of Ice isn't alone: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1433730
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Post by: Himu on September 16, 2017, 04:58:44 PM
at least Queen of Ice isn't alone: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1433730

And the responses are equally as dismissive!
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Post by: WaveRacer 64 on September 16, 2017, 05:32:13 PM
(https://www.nintendo.co.jp/data/bs/aaaca/img/file_0000120-1.gif)

Dem movement options :lawd

Nintendo really mastered the cartoony style, looks incredible.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 20, 2017, 09:53:46 AM
http://metro.co.uk/2017/09/20/super-mario-odyssey-hands-on-preview-platform-of-choice-6942636/ (http://metro.co.uk/2017/09/20/super-mario-odyssey-hands-on-preview-platform-of-choice-6942636/)

:rejoice
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Post by: Joe Molotov on September 20, 2017, 11:19:22 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7eCbEn5T8k

Boss fight with some FLUDD-esque mechanics.
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Post by: Himu on September 20, 2017, 01:29:24 PM
That music is amazing.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 20, 2017, 01:58:27 PM
queen lookie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZqXjYi79z4
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Post by: TVC15 on September 20, 2017, 02:07:24 PM
queen lookie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZqXjYi79z4

This should be an American Ninja Warrior course.
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Post by: Himu on September 20, 2017, 02:12:32 PM
queen lookie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZqXjYi79z4

Not bad! It only took them months to show a traditional Mario course!
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 20, 2017, 02:17:43 PM
i hate you so much
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Post by: TVC15 on September 20, 2017, 02:23:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leLFjMKBPec

I jissomed. Alright, I'm going back into blackout mode. I'd rather experience the cool shit on my own. Game seems pretty weird.
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Post by: Positive Touch on September 20, 2017, 04:40:51 PM
I'm really glad a Mario game has some personality again. Feels like after Galaxy 2 the games were extra bland in music and aesthetic.

the New series had fucking terrible visuals and audio and it was mind-boggling why they stuck to it so hard for soooo long. BAH BAH is still the worst fucking music ever created.
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Post by: Himu on September 20, 2017, 05:05:14 PM
I am finally 100% sold on this game.

I have no idea who Nintendo were trying to sell this game to in the previous months, but this new batch of shit is great.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 20, 2017, 06:40:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruumDjo4JM8
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Post by: Jenkem on September 20, 2017, 07:47:23 PM
Platforming? In a Mario game?

Well, I never...
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Post by: a slime appears on September 20, 2017, 09:07:19 PM
I paid all this money for a new fangled Nintandoo Switch and all it has is iphone games where you move a little sprite man?

C'MAAAAAAAN

:boring :iface
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Post by: benjipwns on September 21, 2017, 07:15:09 AM
the New series had fucking terrible visuals and audio and it was mind-boggling why they stuck to it so hard for soooo long.
well i mean it sold a cosmic shitload, the DS and Wii ones sold 30 million copies and even U sold 5 million (Galaxy sold 13 million, Galaxy 2 sold 6 million, 3D Land 11 million and 3D World 5 million) the only games to top those two or even get within 10 million copies were packaged in with the NES or SNES for half their life or longer...DS actually was never a pack-in to my surprise unless wikipedia is wrong

NSMB and NSMBW combined sold 150% all the Mario Party series games combined :usacry

and considering what the dev costs on those probably was? :whew

BAH BAH is still the worst fucking music ever created.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWbtBk1xe7c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmoDvu0cVaA
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hAg8Yo4yis
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Post by: Positive Touch on September 21, 2017, 11:21:41 AM
yeah i dunno if it was because it looked like all those cheap 3d cartoons at the time or parents wanting their kids to relive the games they grew up on or what but sales were fucking insane.
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Post by: agrajag on September 21, 2017, 12:22:06 PM


I have no idea who Nintendo were trying to sell this game to in the previous months

Everyone else but you.
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Post by: Himu on September 21, 2017, 12:39:54 PM
thank you nintendo to catering specifically to me in the past 24hr :rejoice
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 21, 2017, 08:45:57 PM
I don't even know how to explain the success of the NSMB games.  They were lazy as shit but sold umpteen dozen million copies.
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Post by: Himu on September 21, 2017, 09:31:25 PM
I don't even know how to explain the success of the NSMB games.  They were lazy as shit but sold umpteen dozen million copies.

The console ones looked good :idont
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Post by: benjipwns on September 21, 2017, 09:48:09 PM
I quite liked the first one on the DS when it came out just because it was a stripped back of all the extras, yet new 2D Mario that kept his movement additions over the years, and even if it was one of the easiest games ever made in the genre or franchise and you could beat it and get almost all the coins in just a few hours. (Probably helps that I didn't buy it but my roommate did.  :teehee)

The Wii version has some really weird difficultly spikes and seems more like stuff thrown together to make up the worlds and new powers and such, it still looks pretty sweet all spiffed up on Dolphin tho. I never finished it on the Wii and never gone past the second world when dicking around with it on Dolphin. (Runs pretty flawlessly on my laptop at 720p but that's yet again fiddling with it rather than actually wanting to play with it that way.) But if you're a Mario fanatic there's a shit ton of game there, especially into the special worlds and stuff.

Never played 2 or U. I actually kinda like the concept though of them doing this 2D series, even with the multiplayer chaos troll mode, probably on the cheap and even if just to test out ideas. And yet they still are also doing the 3D series. Versus us just getting one or the other. It's one way to really satisfy a lot of the Mario fans, they've done at least one of these and one of the 3D Marios on every platform since DS now.

Even though it probably doesn't relate I wouldn't mind if they put some of that into making an actually transcendent Yoshi's Island sequel some day. Shame they never actually followed up on that masterpiece. Been 22 years without a sequel of any kind. ANY KIND.
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Post by: Himu on September 21, 2017, 10:18:55 PM
I beat nsmb ds in one sitting on a car trip. It was awful and put me off nsmb Wii despite reportedly being good for years
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Post by: benjipwns on September 21, 2017, 10:59:10 PM
I think it may be our having played SMB/SMB3/SMW in some respects, and they made it easier to introduce to the new generation but it was way easier to us especially since I can go back to those games and they don't seem hard, I thought design wise it did a lot of fun stuff even if it wasn't challenging. I'd have to look but I don't really remember too many reviewers talking about how easy the game was and then I was sitting there one night after just starting up my roommates copy and after a few hours I'm on world eight. :lol

NSMBW was quite a bit harder from what I remember, especially trying to get all the coins and then the extra levels are all like challenge ones. But that may also be the controls if you're using the Wiimote sideways as they suggest. (Require? I forget.) Haven't actually tried to play it with say my 360 pad on the PC, might be totally different.
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Post by: agrajag on September 21, 2017, 11:01:24 PM
real talk NSMB Wii is a great game. Never played the Wii U one
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Post by: benjipwns on September 21, 2017, 11:20:58 PM
SMB3 and SMW can feel more like time sinks than the others, there's less of a feeling that you can just pop in and get playing outside of like the first few levels because of the world structure and the way the levels connect to one another

probably my favorite Nintendo 2D platformer, and you don't even play as Mario  :lol
wow, claim it's your favorite and then show your CASUAL GAMER IGNORANCE by acting like there's not the parts where you play as invincible Super Baby Mario

your punishment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qkrKTAOv2M
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Post by: agrajag on September 21, 2017, 11:24:14 PM
I still really like SMB, honestly. It's pretty simple and easy but designed well enough that I enjoy it whenever I pick it up.

For whatever reason, SMB3 hasn't clicked with me like that outside of my childhood when it was my favorite. It's well designed and fun to play, but I find myself putting it down much quicker than I do other great 2D Marios(I'm including Doki Doki Panic reskin and the lost levels in this because I love both, bitches).

I haven't touched SMBW since the SNES days, so can't really speak on it. But I plan on somehow getting a SNES Mini with wanting to replay it high on the priority list. Yoshi's Island is probably still going to be a better game to me when all is said and done. It's kind of funny how it's billed as SMW2, is probably my favorite Nintendo 2D platformer, and you don't even play as Mario  :lol

SMB3 gets frustrating real quick. SMB2J though, holy shit. I think I only got a couple levels into it.

SMBW is great. It's solid as fuck.
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Post by: Himu on September 22, 2017, 12:58:59 AM
SMB1 is solid
2 US is fun for the nostalgia
2j is interesting as a Mario vet
3 is really good if you don't skip all over the map with whistles and warps
World is fantastic
Yoshi's Island is my favorite 2d platformer
64 I've had a weird relationship with over the years. Love it some elements of it, hate others. Overall I love it these days.
Sunshine I love and have MASSIVE nostalgia for despite its issues
Galaxy 1 is IMO the best platformer of all time and perhaps the best game ever made, next to resident evil 4
Galaxy 2 is great but just not on the level of Galaxy 1 for me
Nsmb was terrible
3D land sucks until new game plus

Haven't played nsmb Wii, U, or 2, or 3D world. Which I plan on catching up on.
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Post by: Tasty on September 22, 2017, 01:26:08 AM
NSMB Wii and U were really solid 2D platformers, aesthetics aside. Luigi U was a ton of fun too.

Original NSMB was pretty shitty but got a pass as the first 2D Mario since Yoshi's Island. NSMB2 was completely forgettable.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 22, 2017, 11:29:52 AM
3D World is great.  I know dunkey doesn't like it but he's also more of a fan of the 3D games in the spirit of Sunshine.

I'd argue it's the Wii U's best title
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 22, 2017, 12:03:40 PM
It's honestly a much better game when played alone.  The latter half of the game is just new cool idea after new cool idea.  Very laser focused platforming.
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Post by: Tasty on September 22, 2017, 12:27:33 PM
3D World is great.  I know dunkey doesn't like it but he's also more of a fan of the 3D games in the spirit of Sunshine.

I'd argue it's the Wii U's best title

3D World is OK. I think 3D Land (especially the second half of it) was much better.

I hated the movement system. I highly disliked the "burst" of speed you get 1.5674 seconds after holding the run button, forcing you to run in a circle to get it if you didn't want it to kick in at an inopportune time. I hated how some of the levels were literally impossible if playing multiplayer. The bosses sucked. I hated how none of the levels in a given world matched the theme of the world. And I thought the overall graphical style was getting too similar to the New series instead of the beauty of the Galaxy games.

That said, if played solo, it has some good level design in places, especially the special world. There's some newness/weirdness to some of the themes, which was nice compared to NSMB. It looks pretty good, technically speaking. And having each char have their own unique properties was very welcome after NSMB made everyone play the same.

It's easily the worst 3D Mario in my opinion, but it's still a good game. Just not great.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 22, 2017, 01:27:08 PM
3D World felt tired and bland in my opinion.  3D World and Sunshine were the only two Mario games where I didn't give a shit about it.  Both games just felt half assed.

The good news is that Sunshine's sequel was amazing and so does Odyssey.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 22, 2017, 01:50:33 PM
I can’t argue with any of that tbh

I just know I had a lot of fun with it.  Much more than 3D Land
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Post by: Tasty on September 22, 2017, 01:58:32 PM
3D Land felt fresh to me at the time and worked really well as a portable game with levels being made of individual bite-sized chunks. It was also the first 3DS game I said "wow" at the graphics for. And I remember the post-game content being meaty and wonderful.

Don't know how I'd feel today if I went back to it.
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Post by: Himu on September 22, 2017, 02:22:28 PM
I maintain that 3D land sucked until the post game
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Post by: Tasty on September 22, 2017, 02:53:47 PM
I maintain that 3D land sucked until the post game

This is a more extreme version of how I feel about the subject, yes.
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Post by: Jenkem on September 22, 2017, 05:37:30 PM
there is no bad mario game, some are just better than others.
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Post by: agrajag on September 23, 2017, 02:10:00 AM
3D World felt tired and bland in my opinion.  3D World and Sunshine were the only two Mario games where I didn't give a shit about it.  Both games just felt half assed.

The good news is that Sunshine's sequel was amazing and so does Odyssey.

I didn't give a fuck about Sunshine either. Played it at a store and it didn't wow me at all. Didn't help that I skipped the Gamecube. My buddy actually lent me his so I could play the Metroid games and Wind Waker.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 23, 2017, 08:46:45 AM
The 3D Land main game felt like an experimental demo than anything else.  You breeze through the main game in 3-4 hours and then you play the actual game.

However I think that gameplay setup is a crock of shit.  3D World did the same thing too.  These games should be "on" at all times which fortunately appears to be the case for Odyssey.
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Post by: Himu on September 23, 2017, 08:58:10 AM
I was fine with the perspective on 3D land when I originally played it. When I went back to it to replay post game content the perspective was too fucking weird. That half 3D half 2d thing ain't working for me.

The 3D Land main game felt like an experimental demo than anything else.  You breeze through the main game in 3-4 hours and then you play the actual game.

However I think that gameplay setup is a crock of shit.  3D World did the same thing too.  These games should be "on" at all times which fortunately appears to be the case for Odyssey.

Mmm...after NSMB and 3D land and seeing the boring early footage of Odyssey, I was worried they'd pull the same thing too TBH. Tired of playing boring Mario titles where you have to beat it in order for it to get good or whatever.
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Post by: Tasty on September 23, 2017, 03:17:31 PM
I'm entirely sure that's intentional. Give the kiddies and casuals the ability to beat a Mareeo game while still packing in some challenge in the post-game for the serious folks. Most Mario games post-Sunshine have been this way and it's a good system IMO.

"Fuck off," lol. Such strong language for what's essentially a carry-over from Super Mario World.
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Post by: Himu on September 23, 2017, 03:20:42 PM
That issue is exactly why I've been pessimistic of Odyssey. You never really know what you're going to get with Mario these days. You might get a classic (Galaxy 1 and 2) or you might get a slow burn game (3D land) or a complete dud (NSMB). Everything I saw from odyssey was pointing at it being another Mario game with needless bloat that takes forever to get good. Glad the latest media shows otherwise.
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Post by: Positive Touch on September 23, 2017, 03:30:01 PM
the stupidest thing about having a ton of easy content in Mario is that we beat all those old Marios when we were little fucking kids. the waiter stuff isn't more accessible, just more boring.
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Post by: Tasty on September 23, 2017, 03:33:49 PM
the stupidest thing about having a ton of easy content in Mario is that we beat all those old Marios when we were little fucking kids. the waiter stuff isn't more accessible, just more boring.

Mario's primary audience (usually) isn't 100% seasoned Mario players. Every major Mario game launches on a new system, which will be many kids' first gaming systems ever. Complaining that a gateway game series like Mario isn't Super Meat Boy is shortsighted and selfish.
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Post by: Tasty on September 23, 2017, 03:38:00 PM
Though, my opinion is colored by the fact I don't see easy games as bad games, or hard games as good games. Difficulty is separate from quality.
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Post by: Positive Touch on September 23, 2017, 03:40:52 PM
i'm not asking for super meat boy. I'm saying if i could beat smb1 as an 8 year old, then there's no reason to have  a newer mario game with 30-odd levels that offer no challenge.
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Post by: Positive Touch on September 23, 2017, 03:42:34 PM
Though, my opinion is colored by the fact I don't see easy games as bad games, or hard games as good games. Difficulty is separate from quality.

well yeah, when i say challenge i don't mean those awful mario maker troll levels. just something that occasionally keeps the player on their toes, as opposed to something that you basically have to go out of your way to fail. when a game is so easy that there's no consequence for fucking up, it just gets boring.
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Post by: Tasty on September 27, 2017, 02:25:38 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt73EVyOBoQ

"Feels like Mario Galaxy 3" :whew :checkit :rejoice :miyamoto
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Post by: agrajag on September 27, 2017, 09:06:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7I5Jco6JBA

this game is life brehs
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Post by: Tasty on October 07, 2017, 01:03:42 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6oPBIVjf8E

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HA1mbZ_MMh8/hqdefault.jpg)
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Post by: Jenkem on October 07, 2017, 02:27:50 AM
assist mode?

BOYCOTT
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Post by: Himu on October 07, 2017, 02:42:47 AM
Assist mode is good news because that means the game might be challenging like galaxy 2 which also has an assist mode.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 07, 2017, 04:53:06 PM
I played this today at Gamestop, nice surprise.

It looks EVEN BETTER in person, a lot of the videos don't do it justice.  The controls are a little strange, however.  You have much more control over Mario through his jumps than ever before and it takes a bit of time to get used to.  Something I didn't like was that only by playing with the joycons separated from the console could you do the nifty cap throws.

All that said, the game encourages you right off the bat in the demo to experiment.  I just spent 10 minutes getting used to the move set and jumping around Tostata or whatever the town was called.  Capture ability is great.

Game will be a lot of fun, but I'm anxious to get used to the controls.
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Post by: Himu on October 07, 2017, 05:55:37 PM
How have you played it at GameStop?
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 08, 2017, 10:26:58 AM
There was a demo kiosk there
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Post by: Tasty on October 10, 2017, 05:37:26 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
It was surprising when Galaxy 2 did it, and it'd be nice to see them again, but I dunno, might start getting diminishing returns if it's a regular thing.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 10, 2017, 07:06:12 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
I hope this doesn't suck like Super Mario Sunshine
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Post by: benjipwns on October 10, 2017, 10:36:58 PM
apparently game icon spoilers are out, so watch out guys
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Post by: Trent Dole on October 11, 2017, 01:41:41 AM
I got a bunch of icons on my desktop, pray for me.
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Post by: agrajag on October 11, 2017, 02:19:55 AM
Thread title is a spoiler???
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Post by: Let's Cyber on October 11, 2017, 12:04:03 PM
10/10 from Edge

 :whoo
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Post by: Tasty on October 11, 2017, 12:15:44 PM
Reviews :thinking

New true 3D Mario :rejoice
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Post by: Let's Cyber on October 11, 2017, 12:30:20 PM
Reviews :thinking
So we won't see you jerking off to the metacritic average here in a few weeks, right?

(https://i.imgur.com/nYCQe62.png)
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Post by: Tasty on October 11, 2017, 01:51:01 PM
Nah.
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Post by: Let's Cyber on October 11, 2017, 02:23:40 PM
I'll take you at your word. My apologies.

(https://i.imgur.com/fHOPIWY.png)

A lot of nintendo fans showed their asses during the BotW metacritic debacle. Hopefully the unwashed masses handle lower reviews better this time.
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Post by: Himu on October 11, 2017, 02:24:51 PM
Haha Edge.

Haven't read any spoilers because I like surprises.
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Post by: Himu on October 11, 2017, 02:25:33 PM
I'll take you at your word. My apologies.

(https://i.imgur.com/fHOPIWY.png)

A lot of nintendo fans showed their asses during the BotW metacritic debacle. Hopefully the unwashed masses handle lower reviews better this time.

Correction: a lot of gaffots. We don't give af about reviews here.
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Post by: Let's Cyber on October 11, 2017, 02:34:11 PM
Naw, the entire backlash against certain BotW reviewers extended far beyond just GAF.

Also it wasn't my intention to shit up this thread when it should be Odyssey hype, a game I am also very excited for.
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Post by: Let's Cyber on October 11, 2017, 03:03:27 PM
 :confused

I never said it was the first. I only mentioned it because it was the most recent.

Sony fans take the cake for more embarrassing review blowups anyway but there is enough shame to go around.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on October 11, 2017, 03:44:38 PM
Haha Edge.

Haven't read any spoilers because I like surprises.

But you thought the game was gonna be shit until you ruined the surprise that the game contained platforming levels.  :teehee
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Post by: Himu on October 11, 2017, 04:09:35 PM
Haha Edge.

Haven't read any spoilers because I like surprises.

But you thought the game was gonna be shit until you ruined the surprise that the game contained platforming levels.  :teehee

You're right. Because I have standards.  :doge
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Post by: team filler on October 12, 2017, 01:17:03 AM
Tired of that stupid 1up girl song
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Post by: tiesto on October 12, 2017, 08:55:07 AM
10/10 from Edge

 :whoo

So, it's as good as GTA4 amd Little Big Planet?
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Post by: Tasty on October 12, 2017, 12:31:17 PM
Tired of that stupid 1up girl song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bZtCt_Siro

:rock
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Post by: Tasty on October 12, 2017, 12:32:05 PM
10/10 from Edge

 :whoo

So, it's as good as GTA4 amd Little Big Planet?

Not to mention the masterpiece Skyward Sword. /s
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 12, 2017, 02:46:13 PM
Edge has a hard on for:
-nintendo
-british devs
-halo

that said this game will rock
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Post by: I'm a Puppy! on October 12, 2017, 09:25:00 PM
Debating whether i buy a switch now or chance waiting for the mario bundle. Knowing Nintendo I should just buy now.
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Post by: team filler on October 13, 2017, 12:54:00 AM
No physical copy of the game with the mario bundle
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Post by: Jenkem on October 17, 2017, 03:48:06 AM
No physical copy of the game with the mario bundle

selling a mario game  :goty2
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Post by: Jenkem on October 19, 2017, 11:17:21 PM
Got an email:

Quote
Thank you for choosing Best Buy to pre-order Super Mario Odyssey Nintendo Switch. We noticed that your order does not have the Super Mario Odyssey Cappy Collectible Coin: SKU 6090300, included with your purchase. We want to make sure that you have this item, so we have added it to your order, free of charge.

 :rejoice :rejoice :rejoice
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Post by: Rich! on October 22, 2017, 07:02:21 AM
Been on total blackout since the E3 trailer. No idea what to expect, but it's gonna be sweet if it even slightly lives up to SM64

(https://i.imgur.com/5W5dfRF.png)

Got the digital version preordered on amazon japan - I get it a day earlier (4pm GMT Thursday), for cheaper (£39)!
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Post by: Joe Molotov on October 22, 2017, 11:08:52 AM
I don't have work this Friday. Gonna pick up a copy at the midnight release and inject it into my veins. :rejoice
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Post by: Eteric on October 22, 2017, 11:17:58 AM
I'm so hyped, but fuck it's hard avoiding spoilers.
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Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on October 22, 2017, 11:29:01 AM
I'm looking and I can't find any spoilers >:(
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Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on October 22, 2017, 11:33:50 AM
lol shit, final boss and ending already posted on youtube
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Post by: Positive Touch on October 22, 2017, 11:41:34 AM
omg don't tell me if he ends up with the princess or not!!!
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 22, 2017, 11:47:08 AM
lol shit, final boss and ending already posted on youtube

spoiler (click to show/hide)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=603CdeW9_iE
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Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on October 22, 2017, 12:08:14 PM
why did i watch it?
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Post by: Eteric on October 22, 2017, 12:35:47 PM
why did i watch it?

Because it's Sunday and you're bored.

I saw the screenshot of it, but never watched it. Gonna avoid it, even though I don't exactly play Mario for the story.
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Post by: DCharlieJP on October 22, 2017, 02:17:57 PM
10/10 from Edge

 :whoo

So, it's as good as GTA4 amd Little Big Planet?

technically, it's got to be much better as it didn't get the +2 to review score race bonus of being coded by a British developer. Huzzah, just be glad it wasn't made by some team in Guildford or we'd be talking about a 12/10 game here.
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Post by: Let's Cyber on October 25, 2017, 06:37:25 AM
Preload is available. Seeing that Odyssey icon on my Switch library...

 :gladbron :whew

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Post by: Eteric on October 25, 2017, 07:15:40 AM
Hnng, we so close boys!
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on October 25, 2017, 07:25:08 AM
can't wait for this  :hyper
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Post by: Anime Avatar on October 25, 2017, 07:54:28 AM
Just ordered this, looks like the best Mario game since 64.

Galaxy was fine but it didn't really leave a lasting impression on me
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Post by: Courage on October 25, 2017, 09:46:01 AM
Just ordered this, looks like the best Mario game since 64.

Galaxy was fine but it didn't really leave a lasting impression on me
BUT MY PURE PLATFORMING!!!

I'm so glad they went back to the sandbox design and gave back Mario's full moveset, and if anything built on it with some of the shit you can do with the hat. It's what makes Mario 64 a joy to play all these years later.
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Post by: Rich! on October 25, 2017, 11:30:00 AM
Aw yes, Amazon JP just charged me for my preorder!

Hyped as fuck now. They'll send me the code at midnight JST/4pm GMT tomorrow just in time for getting home from work  :aah
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Post by: Tasty on October 25, 2017, 11:41:55 AM
I still need to get a Switch :fbm

Yes you do.
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 25, 2017, 11:51:20 AM
This is the only game that kind of makes me regret trading in my Switch.
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Post by: Tasty on October 25, 2017, 11:53:04 AM
This is the only game that kind of makes me regret trading in my Switch.

:confused
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 25, 2017, 11:57:58 AM
Bought it on a whim to play Zelda and MK8. Ended up not liking Zelda that much. Traded it in for 95% of what I paid for it and the games, so it was like a rental. Gonna wait for a slight revision and let the game library build up some more.
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Post by: regenhuber on October 25, 2017, 11:58:46 AM
This is the only game that kind of makes me regret trading in my Switch.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/3NpzwnO0KfSIo/giphy.gif)
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 25, 2017, 12:44:26 PM
Switch is life
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Post by: Rich! on October 25, 2017, 01:04:55 PM
oh yes! I've got my code from amazon japan, preloading now.

I've been on absolute blackout on this game, so I don't actually know the details - but how does the two player mode work? Is it something simple enough I can give a joycon to my daughter and she'll be entertained with? For what it's worth, she's 5 and she's played through Turtles in Time and Sailor Moon SNES with me numerous times
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Post by: sinxtanx on October 25, 2017, 01:11:01 PM
preloading  :rejoice

and the best thing is nothing can stop me from playing this all weekend, not even a fire
thank you Nintendo for making the Switch portable so that I may keep playing in the event of a fire
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Post by: Rich! on October 25, 2017, 01:13:03 PM
preloading  :rejoice

and the best thing is nothing can stop me from playing this all weekend, not even a fire
thank you Nintendo for making the Switch portable so that I may keep playing in the event of a fire

but what if your switch is the cause of the fire from playing it so much?

spoiler (click to show/hide)
yeah, I'm taking my switch to work tomorrow just in case I have to stay longer than 4pm.
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on October 25, 2017, 01:15:10 PM
hope this is great

i have been waiting for a sm64 sequel for 20 years
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Post by: Aeptia on October 25, 2017, 04:04:30 PM
I only have 4 friends on Switch. Who's happy to add me?

Now if someone could tell me how you add people....
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Post by: Rich! on October 25, 2017, 04:20:07 PM
I only have 4 friends on Switch. Who's happy to add me?

Now if someone could tell me how you add people....
Friend code sharing

seriously. PM me yours, I guess.
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Post by: Jenkem on October 25, 2017, 04:46:58 PM
Best Buy doing a midnight eastern launch, adjusted for your time zone


 :heartbeat TOMORROW FAM :heartbeat
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Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on October 25, 2017, 06:01:55 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/w7NvptM.png)

 :delicious
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Post by: Makai on October 26, 2017, 02:54:42 AM
Got it a day early.  :doge

Mario 64 is unplayable, though.
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Post by: H.I.V.E. on October 26, 2017, 02:57:39 AM
Preloaded waiting. Had physical pre ordered but told that arrives after the weekend... So digital then I guess selling the cartridge.
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Post by: Let's Cyber on October 26, 2017, 07:36:41 AM
Less than 18 hours now.

(https://i.imgur.com/W8KfccI.gif)
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Post by: bork on October 26, 2017, 08:13:34 AM
The Japanese version should unlock in less than three hours now. :hyper

...Unless they end up locking out anyone outside the region and we all have to wait until midnight EST instead.  :lol :'(

Pretty sure this one will show as purchased in all region shops, so if you preloaded the American version, you should be able to delete it and preload the Japanese version instead if you want to try getting it early.
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Post by: nachobro on October 26, 2017, 09:53:52 AM
Played it this past weekend to completion with my friend when I was on vacation. Game is legit amazing, best Mario I've ever played (my previous favorite being SMW). I spent 120 hours on BOTW and was ready to declare it game of forever but Mario honestly blows past it. It has the bouncing around to different areas inside bigger worlds like Galaxy with the good parts of exploring huge zones like Sunshine and 64, but getting the moons feels more like Korok seeds in BOTW since you can get them for a lot of different little tasks.

Getting my copy on Friday and I can't wait to replay the whole thing. :hyper Game is gorgeous, has fantastic music, clever puzzles, and so much to explore and check out with little minigames and fun side things. Plus the postgame content can get really fucking hard if that's what you are looking for.
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Post by: Brehvolution on October 26, 2017, 09:59:09 AM
This is the only game that kind of makes me regret trading in my Switch.

How long did you have it before you traded it in? I'm thinking about getting one, but now I'm wondering if I should hold off.  :thinking
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 26, 2017, 10:52:56 AM
https://youtu.be/txISf43Yoak
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Post by: bork on October 26, 2017, 12:07:44 PM
The game unlocked on the J-eShop and I played it for a bit during my lunch break.  It.  Is.  SO.  GOOD.  :D  Even with some waggle-crap in the controls, it's still excellent and feels so much better to play than 3D World did.  I can see this topping Zelda BoTW for sure.
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 26, 2017, 12:11:08 PM
This is the only game that kind of makes me regret trading in my Switch.

How long did you have it before you traded it in? I'm thinking about getting one, but now I'm wondering if I should hold off.  :thinking

About a month.
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Post by: Let's Cyber on October 26, 2017, 12:14:59 PM
Played it this past weekend to completion with my friend when I was on vacation. Game is legit amazing, best Mario I've ever played (my previous favorite being SMW). I spent 120 hours on BOTW and was ready to declare it game of forever but Mario honestly blows past it. It has the bouncing around to different areas inside bigger worlds like Galaxy with the good parts of exploring huge zones like Sunshine and 64, but getting the moons feels more like Korok seeds in BOTW since you can get them for a lot of different little tasks.

Getting my copy on Friday and I can't wait to replay the whole thing. :hyper Game is gorgeous, has fantastic music, clever puzzles, and so much to explore and check out with little minigames and fun side things. Plus the postgame content can get really fucking hard if that's what you are looking for.
What did you think of the soundtrack?
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Post by: Positive Touch on October 26, 2017, 12:18:24 PM
please god, grant me the strength to resist spending $400 getting this and a switch this weekend
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Post by: nachobro on October 26, 2017, 12:22:05 PM
What did you think of the soundtrack?
It's really solid. A lot of times the way a world works is there's one "task" to do (get all the pieces of X, beat this boss, whatever) and the music in a level will be at a lower level and a bit subdued. Then when you finish that task and everything opens up, the world music swells and gets so much bigger and louder. It opens up just like the rest of the level. Plus the boss fights all have really sick music that accentuates them and adds to the tension of the fights, especially some of the later bosses. I'm not sure who did the composition but a lot of the tracks, especially in the
spoiler (click to show/hide)
beach and water
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worlds sound a lot like Splatoon music, so I wonder if there was some crossover there.
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Post by: nachobro on October 26, 2017, 12:34:09 PM
Oh for those who care, you do get stuff from Amiibos (mostly hearts/coins/maybe a moon or two, some costumes) but from what I noticed everything you get from an Amiibo you can also get in game with coins or by exploring the level. The Amiibo just lets you get it earlier than you normally would if you just played the game.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 26, 2017, 12:36:09 PM
so how do I buy this and play it on my switch right now

do I just change my region to JP?
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Post by: Rich! on October 26, 2017, 01:14:10 PM
Been playing this for a few hours now

Holy shit this is incredible. And I just turned into a tree. And the music...especially in Wooded Kingdom... :aah  :aah :aah :aah
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Post by: blaze on October 26, 2017, 01:39:51 PM
buying this when I get home. spending the weekend at my bf's. I hope he doesn't mind me ignoring him for mario for two days straight
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Post by: Baiano19 on October 26, 2017, 02:11:44 PM
Been playing this for a few hours now

Holy shit this is incredible. And I just turned into a tree. And the music...especially in Wooded Kingdom... :aah  :aah :aah :aah
I heard on YouTube :delicious

It's really great. Gonna play in 3 hours, can't wait
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Post by: Sho Nuff on October 26, 2017, 02:18:24 PM
When does this drop on the digital store? GET HYPE
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Post by: Tasty on October 26, 2017, 02:29:38 PM
please god, grant me the strength to resist spending $400 getting this and a switch this weekend

 ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Taking your strength  ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 26, 2017, 02:30:12 PM
someone answer my very important question
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Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on October 26, 2017, 02:37:10 PM
so how do I buy this and play it on my switch right now

do I just change my region to JP?

If you haven't bought it yet, follow this guide.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/pre-order-mario-odyssey-digitally-for-51-usd-unlocks-8am-pst-10-26-17.476/

Otherwise you have to wait till midnight in the region you bought it from.
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Post by: H.I.V.E. on October 26, 2017, 02:58:41 PM
The reviews amazing but can't finish any don't wanna get spoiled. Soon so soon this wait  :'(
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 26, 2017, 03:04:00 PM
so how do I buy this and play it on my switch right now

do I just change my region to JP?

If you haven't bought it yet, follow this guide.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/pre-order-mario-odyssey-digitally-for-51-usd-unlocks-8am-pst-10-26-17.476/

Otherwise you have to wait till midnight in the region you bought it from.

oh, I thought you could simply just switch your region on the device to japan and log into the e-shop to buy the game now
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Post by: team filler on October 26, 2017, 03:21:43 PM
I need to stop being poor so I can play this
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Post by: Eteric on October 26, 2017, 04:39:15 PM
My gamestop will be handing copies out at 11. Existence is pain right now.
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Post by: Rusty Shackleford on October 26, 2017, 04:44:44 PM
Been hearing a lot of complaints about motion controls in handheld mode. Not too sure how serious it really is tho.
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Post by: bork on October 26, 2017, 11:05:34 PM
This is just too good.  Already my GOTY.  Can't get over how well-designed all the worlds are.  I thought that the "open-world" style game play might be bad, but nope...it's perfect.  Worth exploring everywhere to find stuff, too.  And there's even some challenging platform sections!  Loving this.

Been hearing a lot of complaints about motion controls in handheld mode. Not too sure how serious it really is tho.

Turn them off.  :)
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Post by: Rusty Shackleford on October 26, 2017, 11:07:23 PM
Won't be getting my copy until Saturday  :D

There was a reddit thread with a screenshot of turning off motion controls but only for the camera. So you can turn them off for the moves too? The Kotaku review made it sound like dual Joycons was by far the preferred control method.
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Post by: bork on October 26, 2017, 11:10:04 PM
I wonder if this game has "maxed out" the Switch's performance levels?  It runs fairly hot, which I haven't noticed when playing other titles.

Won't be getting my copy until Saturday  :D

There was a reddit thread with a screenshot of turning off motion controls but only for the camera. So you can turn them off for the moves too? The Kotaku review made it sound like dual Joycons was by far the preferred control method.

Oh, for moves I'm not sure.  But I didn't have a problem playing it in handheld mode at all.  Most of the waggle crap is just "shake for faster climbing or flying" and isn't necessary. 

I've been playing the game mainly with a pro controller docked.
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Post by: Rusty Shackleford on October 26, 2017, 11:12:05 PM
Unrelated question: Are your switches loose as hell when docked?  (:teehee) Mine seems to just float loosely on the USB-C port.
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Post by: bork on October 26, 2017, 11:14:28 PM
Seems fine to me.  Mine is stuffed into the dock a bit more thanks to the screen protector.

Also, I know I sound like a broken record singing this game's praises...but it's absolutely brilliant.  I also have found myself often growing bored of a lot of games at times these days, but this title has me already addicted to it and I keep wanting to play more...hard to force myself to stop playing just now.  GOTY for sure.
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Post by: benjipwns on October 27, 2017, 12:19:24 AM
http://play.co.rs/2017/10/review-super-mario-odyssey/

the comments :lawd

Quote
ATTENTION SEEKER. CLICKBAIT. NO AD REVENUE CAUSE POP-OP BLOCKER. If you don't like hard, go back to freaking 8-bit Super Mario and try speedrunning that within 2 mins. Going to report this review to metacritic. This is CLEARLY a troll review as many people have said. Have fun spending the rest of your life in the 1981 Donkey Kong arcade classic trying to beat the highest score, if nostalgia is what you're looking for. Now go back home to try and hacking other people's PCs, if I didn't already hack yours. GTFO.
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I came here just to say that this review is full of shit and should be taken off from Metacritic. Seriously, you gave games such as Fifa high score but gave only 7.5 to Mario O?

What is your agenda anyway? You know that this game will get alot of high score on Metacritic so you wrote this just to get more attention and more click? What a sad website this is. The first and only time that I will visit this.
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Dickh...mister, you are not bashed for having an opinion. You are bashed for being an amateur. For some misterious reason your amateurish review and score got on metacritic. Sure, you are a victim and stuff but from a serious reviewer point of view , you are a disaster. How ON EARTH did you get an early copy, is beyond my understanding. You remind me of that idiot who compared borderlands 2 with his narrow vision of shooters, call of duty et all.
Sir, you are a disgrace, I can safely say you have nothing in common with a game's reviewer.
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Wait so FIFA 18 got a 88 on this site but Odyssey is 75? This site is complete sh*t
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Post by: H.I.V.E. on October 27, 2017, 02:11:12 AM
This is the best 3d Mario or 3d platformer for thaglt matter I have ever played. Loving it. Was surprised how early it was when they allowed you to become a t-rex which was fucking cool so it was never really a spoiler and it seems so far they managed to save a lot for one to discover, so much that wasn't spoiled. But I did avoid the reviews. For sure worth buying a Switch for.

As for that review above I'm sorry but I can't feel sympathy for anyone that gives high scores for EA fucking FIFA lol
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Post by: Jenkem on October 27, 2017, 02:17:26 AM
http://play.co.rs/2017/10/review-super-mario-odyssey/


Quote from: google translate
AGAINST:
Lack of a healthy challenge.
She's just a little girl.
The content lack of content.

 :jared
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 27, 2017, 02:21:03 AM
Hope to pick this up for cheap at Argos today, think I saw it up for 41 quid.
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Post by: Freyj on October 27, 2017, 03:11:39 AM
Easily the most fun I’ve had with a 3D Mario game since 64. If I didn’t have to get up and start working in 5 hours I’d play through the night.
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Post by: sinxtanx on October 27, 2017, 03:42:37 AM
half an hour in, it's unashamedly perfect

I get two games made specifically for me in a year
:rejoice
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Post by: H.I.V.E. on October 27, 2017, 04:17:45 AM
I also love all the 2d Mario action.

Feels like the game has everything they took all from the past that is great and made it into a single game. Best fanservice.
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Post by: Let's Cyber on October 27, 2017, 04:41:21 AM
This game brehs

 :lawd

Small spoilers for the first 3 worlds or so
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In the span of like 60 seconds I went from riding around on a lion in the desert to jumping into the body of flying gecko and gliding around, to being transported through a painting and ending up in New York City New Donk City.
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It feels like playing Little Nemo in Slumberland or something. Everything is so dreamy and surreal.
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Post by: Jenkem on October 27, 2017, 04:50:18 AM
this fucking game keeps throwing new shit at you and never stops

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fishing as lakitu
[close]

 :lawd :lawd :lawd
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Post by: paprikastaude on October 27, 2017, 04:51:40 AM
http://play.co.rs/2017/10/review-super-mario-odyssey/

the comments :lawd

I wonder if the unironic 6 out 5 caused equal furore?  :doge
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/games/reviews/super-mario-odyssey-review-marvellous-mario-embarks-on-his-greatest-adventure-36262391.html

The gaming journalism we deserve 

(http://i.imgur.com/pzOu7Gm.jpg)
(http://www.abload.de/img/untitled-322x4e.gif)
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Post by: benjipwns on October 27, 2017, 04:59:00 AM
Quote
But what defines SMO most is the element of surprise — you’re never far from a laugh-out-loud sight gag, a cheekily hidden secret, rib-tickling encounter or wacky costume change.

Oh Nintendo, you spoil us. Six stars out of five. It’s that good.
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Post by: bork on October 27, 2017, 07:57:05 AM
I spent hours last night in the desert world getting moons.  Could have moved onto the next world, but I was having such a blast that I enjoyed sticking around and finding new stuff to do.  Ended up with 50+ moons before going to the third world...which is crazy, since I generally hate "collectathon" type game play.  But not here...it's fun!
:rejoice

Is it just me, or does the forest world kind of give off a Nier Automata vibe?
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Post by: Eteric on October 27, 2017, 10:03:54 AM
This game makes my cold dead heart feel shit again. So fun!

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Post by: CurseoftheGods on October 27, 2017, 10:44:30 AM
this game is excellent

really feels like super mario 64 2
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Post by: Anime Avatar on October 27, 2017, 10:45:45 AM
it's pretty good
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Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on October 27, 2017, 10:55:23 AM
Really enjoying this, wasted so much time in the first two worlds collecting moons. I think I have 80-90 right now. It feels like a 3D Kirby game with Mario controls.

Only complaint would be some of the controls for the capture abilities (specifically Bullet Bill and the Tank).
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 27, 2017, 11:04:53 AM
The sense of momentum and Mario's physics is nothing like I've seen in another 3D platformer.  It's really quite amazing.
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Post by: kingv on October 27, 2017, 11:18:18 AM
Fuuuuuuuuu, work is so long.
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Post by: H.I.V.E. on October 27, 2017, 12:56:53 PM
I spent hours last night in the desert world getting moons.  Could have moved onto the next world, but I was having such a blast that I enjoyed sticking around and finding new stuff to do.  Ended up with 50+ moons before going to the third world...which is crazy, since I generally hate "collectathon" type game play.  But not here...it's fun!
:rejoice

Is it just me, or does the forest world kind of give off a Nier Automata vibe?

Same here. Gotta get them all. Also the coins. Buying everything.
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Post by: Sho Nuff on October 27, 2017, 01:04:01 PM
This game is very very very very very good
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Post by: Joe Molotov on October 27, 2017, 02:16:49 PM
Where's Himu?  :jawalrus

Who do you think wrote that 6 out of 5 review?
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Post by: desert punk on October 27, 2017, 02:26:55 PM
Do you guys know how big the download is?

I bought a Switch bundled with this game but it's only a download code and I sent it to my parents where I'll stay for the next week and their connection is pretty bad  :-\
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 27, 2017, 02:47:17 PM
Do you guys know how big the download is?

I bought a Switch bundled with this game but it's only a download code and I sent it to my parents where I'll stay for the next week and their connection is pretty bad  :-\

5ish gigs I believe.
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Post by: H.I.V.E. on October 27, 2017, 03:12:11 PM
Do you guys know how big the download is?

I bought a Switch bundled with this game but it's only a download code and I sent it to my parents where I'll stay for the next week and their connection is pretty bad  :-\

5ish is correct

5.2 I believe. Save file almost nothing.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: tiesto on October 27, 2017, 03:18:02 PM
Where's Himu?  :jawalrus

Who do you think wrote that 6 out of 5 review?

I thought it was Drinky giving more vociferous laudations to Miyamoto...
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Let's Cyber on October 27, 2017, 05:23:50 PM
I was worried about the soundtrack but it is fantastic. Super impressed so far.

Overall I'm in shock that they made a great successor to both 64 and Galaxy at the same fucking time.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Tucah on October 27, 2017, 05:47:17 PM
Game is amazing so far. Mario has never controlled better, some motion shit aside, the levels are huge and a joy to explore, there's a lot of variety in the activities and platforming. It's exactly what I wanted.
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Post by: desert punk on October 27, 2017, 07:11:09 PM
Do you guys know how big the download is?

I bought a Switch bundled with this game but it's only a download code and I sent it to my parents where I'll stay for the next week and their connection is pretty bad  :-\

5ish is correct

5.2 I believe. Save file almost nothing.

Thx. 5 gigs sound feasible, tho with a 6 MBit connection it's still going to take a while >:(
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Post by: Rocky on October 27, 2017, 07:21:24 PM
Loving it so far.  Leagues better than NSMB 3D, er I mean 3D World.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: archie4208 on October 27, 2017, 08:05:04 PM
My biggest beef right now is the music, or lack thereof.   Some areas are dead silent and it feels weird.  That same shit happened in Breath of the Wild where the game is fucking awesome but the soundtrack is a letdown.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Let's Cyber on October 27, 2017, 08:25:04 PM
My biggest beef right now is the music, or lack thereof.   Some areas are dead silent and it feels weird.  That same shit happened in Breath of the Wild where the game is fucking awesome but the soundtrack is a letdown.
Which maps are you talking about? Sometimes it's low key in certain areas but I don't think it is as poorly handled as BotW's overworld.

EDIT: Yeah, I just got to Wooded Kingdom and the opening area does in fact not have any music. Maybe you're just further in the game than I am.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on October 27, 2017, 11:28:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIeOULX79VA
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Post by: Kirby on October 27, 2017, 11:47:08 PM
Finished the game. 10/10 everything.

Now on to collecting all these fucking moons and coins. Playing dressup is more fun than I imagined it would be in a mario game.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: bork on October 28, 2017, 12:45:11 AM
When you get to a certain part in New Donk City, you will just go
 :gladbron :gladbron :lawd :lawd :aah :aah :obama :itagaki :success :checkit

Spoilers if you want to see it:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1IHvzwUd6w
[close]

I was really hoping something like this would be in.  :D

spoiler (click to show/hide)
There's even a secret moon to find!  The guy playing here sucks and missed it.
[close]
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Post by: TVC15 on October 28, 2017, 03:23:49 AM
This game is fuckin’ killer.
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Post by: Let's Cyber on October 28, 2017, 04:40:26 AM
One of the best things about going to new worlds is just getting to check out the new outfits

 :miyamoto
spoiler (click to show/hide)
I just got the Pirate and Aviator outfits
 :noah

[close]

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Post by: Bitmap Frogs on October 28, 2017, 05:27:02 AM
I have a question: on my switch the game handles certain transparencies by employing a sort of grid pattern that looks suspiciously like a GPU on the fritz so I am getting paranoid about my unit being fucked...
n
As an example: the toad that's next to your ship in the desert world... if you positio your camera so that you are looking through it... is it a proper transparency or a sort of grid?

Thanks...
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Post by: paprikastaude on October 28, 2017, 07:44:07 AM
haha, wtf? I'm not really the biggest fan of his, but the fanboy jimmies he keeps rustling, good lord.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5EzAh7ZkZI
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Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on October 28, 2017, 08:28:43 AM
haha, wtf? I'm not really the biggest fan of his, but the fanboy jimmies he keeps rustling, good lord.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5EzAh7ZkZI

I could never work it out - on gaf, were you a troll account or are you actually autistic or something?
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Rich! on October 28, 2017, 09:29:31 AM
I have a question: on my switch the game handles certain transparencies by employing a sort of grid pattern that looks suspiciously like a GPU on the fritz so I am getting paranoid about my unit being fucked...
n
As an example: the toad that's next to your ship in the desert world... if you positio your camera so that you are looking through it... is it a proper transparency or a sort of grid?

Thanks...

It's a grid. Intentional to make it absolutely clear what is being obscured by objects. so don't worry!

I've just got to the boss after luncheon kingdom...
spoiler (click to show/hide)
dark souls kingdom!
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and hidden in luncheon kingdom is a painting to a kingdom I haven't seen yet, which is a MASSIVE spoiler in itself:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Mushroom Kingdom - Peach's castle from SM64. The moons are power stars with the SM64 star jingle when you get one
[close]
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Bitmap Frogs on October 28, 2017, 09:34:17 AM
I have a question: on my switch the game handles certain transparencies by employing a sort of grid pattern that looks suspiciously like a GPU on the fritz so I am getting paranoid about my unit being fucked...
n
As an example: the toad that's next to your ship in the desert world... if you positio your camera so that you are looking through it... is it a proper transparency or a sort of grid?

Thanks...

It's a grid. Intentional to make it absolutely clear what is being obscured by objects. so don't worry!

Pfew!

That's off my head now  :D
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Post by: nachobro on October 28, 2017, 09:41:40 AM
When you get to a certain part in New Donk City, you will just go
 :gladbron :gladbron :lawd :lawd :aah :aah :obama :itagaki :success :checkit

Spoilers if you want to see it:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1IHvzwUd6w
[close]

I was really hoping something like this would be in.  :D

spoiler (click to show/hide)
There's even a secret moon to find!  The guy playing here sucks and missed it.
[close]
Yeah that ending part to NDC is godlike.  Just wait, there's a couple more segments near the end that had me :gladbron too
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on October 28, 2017, 09:55:27 AM
the lake kingdom is so good i want to cry
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Rich! on October 28, 2017, 09:55:33 AM
When you get to a certain part in New Donk City, you will just go
 :gladbron :gladbron :lawd :lawd :aah :aah :obama :itagaki :success :checkit

Spoilers if you want to see it:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1IHvzwUd6w
[close]

I was really hoping something like this would be in.  :D

spoiler (click to show/hide)
There's even a secret moon to find!  The guy playing here sucks and missed it.
[close]
Yeah that ending part to NDC is godlike.  Just wait, there's a couple more segments near the end that had me :gladbron too

hell yeah

I kinda guessed it was coming considering all the references to DK in that kingdom (expresso ave, cranky st, candy's cafe, KRool st, etc). this game is absolutely a celebration and culmination of everything Mario up to this point. You've even got the Yoshi's Island Level Results theme in the capless zones!

and it reminds me, I need to play DK94 again.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on October 28, 2017, 12:33:15 PM
I'm still just in the Mexican Kingdom, this game is pretty dope tho.
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Post by: Bitmap Frogs on October 28, 2017, 02:36:03 PM
I'm still just in the Mexican Kingdom, this game is pretty dope tho.

I'm trying to muster some outrage but I am unable to.
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Post by: eleuin on October 28, 2017, 03:07:13 PM
People are losing their minds over NDC on twitter  :lol
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Post by: Freyj on October 28, 2017, 05:08:37 PM
Just a wonderful game. I don’t think I’ve been this in love with a Nintendo system since the SNES. Everytime I turn around there’s something else I want to play.
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Post by: TEEEPO on October 28, 2017, 07:11:28 PM
yea, this game is the real deal.

it's prob better than mario 3 and easily better than 64
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Bitmap Frogs on October 28, 2017, 07:28:31 PM
yea, this game is the real deal.

it's prob better than mario 3 and easily better than 64

I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but I believe Galaxy is still the peak of the franchise.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on October 28, 2017, 07:40:30 PM
yea, this game is the real deal.

it's prob better than mario 3 and easily better than 64

I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but I believe Galaxy is still the peak of the franchise.

I don't think that should make anybody upset, Galaxy is a fantastic game.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: sinxtanx on October 28, 2017, 07:41:20 PM
finished the final boss but the game just keeps going

it's a solid 10/10 no real complaints

final levels spoilers IF YOU READ THIS WITHOUT HAVING FINISHED THE GAME WHAT ARE YOU DOING REALLY
spoiler (click to show/hide)
I can't believe Bowser shows up on a GoT-style dragon the size of a skyscraper which then blasts the airship out of the sky and then you fight that dragon inside DARK SOULS.
I can't believe Bowser's castle is a samurai fortress floating in the sky on rainbow clouds and you scale the walls by possessing woodpeckers.
I can't believe you get to be Bowser and claw your way out of the moon while an anime song plays.
But all of this really did happen in Super Mario Odyssey.
 :mindblown
[close]

spoilers postgame
spoiler (click to show/hide)
YOSHI
[close]
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Post by: Nintex on October 28, 2017, 07:54:38 PM
This game has no business being this good.
If you wrote it down on paper you'd shoot it down for being a horrible idea but it plays perfectly for some reason.

In his first full year as software head at Nintendo, Koizumi has created a better line-up than Miyamoto has in quite some time.
The man has an endless supply of creativity.
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Post by: TEEEPO on October 28, 2017, 08:01:16 PM
yea, this game is the real deal.

it's prob better than mario 3 and easily better than 64

I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but I believe Galaxy is still the peak of the franchise.

I don't think that should make anybody upset, Galaxy is a fantastic game.

i haven't touched a nintendo console since the gamecube

i need them wii/switch ports
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 28, 2017, 08:56:40 PM
I think I enjoy this more than Galaxy/Galaxy 2.  But only just.  All 3 are the pinnacle of 3D platforming.
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Post by: H.I.V.E. on October 28, 2017, 10:45:18 PM
I think I enjoy this more than Galaxy/Galaxy 2.  But only just.  All 3 are the pinnacle of 3D platforming.

I liked galaxy at first but got bored of it and never finished. I like this one a lot more. Also helps I like the console more though I always hated the Wii and the OS.
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Post by: Tasty on October 28, 2017, 10:57:54 PM
I think I enjoy this more than Galaxy/Galaxy 2.  But only just.  All 3 are the pinnacle of 3D platforming.

I liked galaxy at first but got bored of it and never finished. I like this one a lot more. Also helps I like the console more though I always hated the Wii and the OS.

:confused And that impacted how much you liked the game?
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Post by: TVC15 on October 28, 2017, 11:06:03 PM
I think I enjoy this more than Galaxy/Galaxy 2.  But only just.  All 3 are the pinnacle of 3D platforming.

I liked galaxy at first but got bored of it and never finished. I like this one a lot more. Also helps I like the console more though I always hated the Wii and the OS.

:confused And that impacted how much you liked the game?

For me, not liking the Wii meant that I didn’t get to play them as much as other games because I don’t like keeping systems I don’t use much around. Once I finished Galaxy, I soon sold the system. Didn’t play 2 until my brief ownership of a Wii U.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Let's Cyber on October 28, 2017, 11:33:31 PM
Can someone explain the Lakitu fishing minigame to me like I'm 5 years old?

I seriously don't get the mechanic here.


EDIT: nevermind, I didn't have my rumble turned on
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Trent Dole on October 29, 2017, 12:16:23 AM
I think I enjoy this more than Galaxy/Galaxy 2.  But only just.  All 3 are the pinnacle of 3D platforming.
Wow that's some high praise. Need a stupid Switch someday if they keep this level of software output up.
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Post by: Rusty Shackleford on October 29, 2017, 01:04:34 AM
Welp as of right now it looks like you can do the same motion controls with the pro controller that you can with the joycons. Not too sure why the game has such a hardon for using those dinky little things, at least in the context of using them separately instead of in the pack-in grip
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: H.I.V.E. on October 29, 2017, 01:07:46 AM
I think I enjoy this more than Galaxy/Galaxy 2.  But only just.  All 3 are the pinnacle of 3D platforming.

I liked galaxy at first but got bored of it and never finished. I like this one a lot more. Also helps I like the console more though I always hated the Wii and the OS.

:confused And that impacted how much you liked the game?

When it feels like a chore to boot a system up and you hate it and the controller etc then yeah it taints everything. Was the same with the WiiU. Tried it for a few days and then returned the crap.
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Post by: bork on October 29, 2017, 02:31:06 AM
Can someone explain the Lakitu fishing minigame to me like I'm 5 years old?

I seriously don't get the mechanic here.

Drop the line
Move around or wait for a fish to come to you
Wait for it to bite (vibration) and yank it up
You know, FISHING

The bigger fish has a moon.
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Post by: bork on October 29, 2017, 02:35:06 AM
I'm on Bowser's kingdom and already headed towards the end.  It has some insanely-placed purple coins and moons, but I've found a ton.  It really pays to search all over, even if the area seems small. 

Hit another 2D Mario part that is pretty cool, but will wait for everyone to get to it.  It's very Japanese-inspired. 

Dunno if that's the last world, or rather the last world you can get to without getting all the moons.  I saw that there was another world already, because a previous world had a painting leading to it.  This was
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Peach's Castle from Mario 64!
[close]

Have also seen a few paintings that had no art.  Not sure what that means yet.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Let's Cyber on October 29, 2017, 02:43:20 AM
Drop the line
Move around or wait for a fish to come to you
Wait for it to bite (vibration) and yank it up
You know, FISHING

The bigger fish has a moon.
Not getting any vibration with Pro controller for some reason. I have vibration on in my options tho. And the vid I watched has like a reel prompt? I've never got that before either.

I assume this is super easy but I haven't been able to get it to work. I'll try again later


EDIT: Had my rumble turned off in the switch settings :-\

nailed it on my first try after it turned it on.
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Post by: TVC15 on October 29, 2017, 02:48:23 AM
I'm on Bowser's kingdom and already headed towards the end.  It has some insanely-placed purple coins and moons, but I've found a ton.  It really pays to search all over, even if the area seems small. 

Hit another 2D Mario part that is pretty cool, but will wait for everyone to get to it.  It's very Japanese-inspired. 

Dunno if that's the last world, or rather the last world you can get to without getting all the moons.  I saw that there was another world already, because a previous world had a painting leading to it.  This was
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Peach's Castle from Mario 64!
[close]

Have also seen a few paintings that had no art.  Not sure what that means yet.

I’m only on the water world. Loving the game so far. I was just wondering about the 2d sections. Are any of them lengthy/meaty?
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: bork on October 29, 2017, 03:09:04 AM
Nothing long, but there are a few 2D sections with some clever designs and/or aesthetics, plus some well-hidden extra moons.

For the most part, the game has been pretty easy, but is so much fun that I don't mind.  The one thing that took way too many tries to beat was one of the hat-door platforming mini-stages on the cooking world- on this particular level, you have to jump on rotating platforms in the air.  I died so many times here because of the optional moon and trying to jump on the last set of platforms.  But I just kept going until I beat it and I came out with more coins that I lost in the end, lol.
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Post by: Jenkem on October 29, 2017, 04:28:58 AM
keep playin', kiddo
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: ParanoidRED on October 29, 2017, 04:38:20 AM
I don't think i've been this happy playing a videogame since christmas '97 when i got Mario 64 gifted by my parents lol

There's something incredibly charming in this game, just feels so good
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Baiano19 on October 29, 2017, 06:03:50 AM
yea, this game is the real deal.

it's prob better than mario 3 and easily better than 64

I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but I believe Galaxy is still the peak of the franchise.

Galaxy had a much better first impression and the games maintain that.

Another thing that galaxy is better is music ( sheer variety and quality). Odyssey OST is great but so far there is much fewer tunes.

Odyssey, on the other hand, has a slow-ish start, but it just keeps getting better. It keeps throwing curvebals and some unexpected shit happens til the very end.

Going for post-end content now, but so far Galaxy is winning, by a small margin.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 29, 2017, 07:49:30 AM
One good thing about the old choose a star method is you could experience different world states. In most words so far the environment evolves as you proceed and I don't know if you can ever revisit the old layouts. Or replay a cool set piece without playing the whole game over.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: tiesto on October 29, 2017, 09:59:44 AM
I just made it to the Lake Kingdom (beat the Wood Kingdom first), so far it seems much more of a puzzler than a game with platforming elements, and it also seems easy as hell too. Still fun though.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Tucah on October 29, 2017, 11:56:33 AM
It's very easy so far (maybe...eight? nine? kingdoms in) but I don't really mind. I'm going to guess/hope there's some challenging stuff post-game like, most notably, 3DL/W but the exploration of the worlds is such a joy that I'm perfectly fine with relatively easy platforming.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 29, 2017, 01:36:03 PM
I have a question: on my switch the game handles certain transparencies by employing a sort of grid pattern that looks suspiciously like a GPU on the fritz so I am getting paranoid about my unit being fucked...
n
As an example: the toad that's next to your ship in the desert world... if you positio your camera so that you are looking through it... is it a proper transparency or a sort of grid?

Thanks...

FUN NERD FACT

This is dithered transparency, similar to what you'd see on the Genesis/Saturn back in the day, where you draw every other / every third pixel. It's a much, MUCH faster way to do the effect rather than true alpha blending, which chews up GPU cycles, especially on mobile GPU chipsets. Basically "is the pixel on or off" is much easier than "so how transparent is this pixel and what does it do to the pixels drawing behind it". All the foliage uses 1/bit transparency too; real transparency is saved for most of the effects and water.

I am only being chatty about this since I'm working on a game with hellacious transparency / overdraw requirements :(
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 29, 2017, 01:37:22 PM
Also I have no problem with this game's difficulty. I'm an old man, I suck at 3D platformers, so this is a gift from Magical Miyamoto-sama
 :miyamoto
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: CurseoftheGods on October 29, 2017, 02:02:12 PM
people forget that kids play this too
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 29, 2017, 02:05:27 PM
people forget that kids play this too

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/castlevania/images/7/70/Dracula2_small.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/150?cb=20080227201019) PERHAPS THE SAME COULD BE SAID OF ALL VIDEOGAMES
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: bork on October 29, 2017, 02:33:52 PM
Beat the game, but still not done, which is awesome!  After you beat the game, you get to go to:

spoiler (click to show/hide)
The Mushroom Kingdom, which I see has stuff to collect.  I assume there's some levels here?

The dark side of the moon if you have 250 or more moons collected.  This leads to a rabbit boss rush tower.

There's a final "super hard" platforming challenge level that you can get to with X amount of moons collected.  I think it's 500.  You don't have to just find moons to get there and can now buy them from the shops. 

And then there's those big metal stones that are able to be busted open now.  Not sure what those do yet.
[close]

So at least a few more hours of game play left!  I'm not gonna try to get 999 moons, but it's nice to see that there's so much to do post-game for people who want to keep going.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 29, 2017, 03:48:20 PM
They trigger new moons in old stages.

If you buy a moon from a shop in the list game, does it knock one off the map or are they extras?
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 29, 2017, 04:25:44 PM
Pauline is bae af, why is Mario messing around with these other thots Peach and Rosalina?  :crazy
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Scrooged on October 29, 2017, 04:26:23 PM
Just got to the Luncheon Kingdom.  Such a blast to play.  Not sure if it's better than Galaxy tho. Also, this is probably the easiest Mario game yet.  But I'm okay with it knowing that the post game can get pretty tough.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Baiano19 on October 29, 2017, 04:43:46 PM
I still can't believe Nintendo went full Sonic with the ending, and made it work.

Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on October 29, 2017, 04:49:19 PM
In the first part of Cascade Kingdom, there's this 8bit looking yellow cat mario icon that comes fluttering out of a bush when you run thru it. What is that?
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: nachobro on October 29, 2017, 05:01:39 PM
There's a Cat Mario and Cat Peach in each world. If you touch them, Mario gives coins and Peach gives a heart
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on October 29, 2017, 05:18:04 PM
This is going to sound odd but for the life of me I can't grab the cat mario icon, it just flutters to the ground and disappears.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: CurseoftheGods on October 29, 2017, 06:49:33 PM
this game is so good
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 29, 2017, 07:35:25 PM
I never want this game to end, it makes 3D Land look like the cheapest trash

Nintendo: Do you see how I'm marking out over this, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU ACTUALLY APPLY YOURSELF
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Let's Cyber on October 29, 2017, 07:45:25 PM
Finished the "story" and put a few hours into the harder stuff. The ending sequence is so goofy and so fantastic. 10/10

This is top tier Mario as far as I'm concerned. I'd put it right up there with SMB3 and Galaxy 1 which are my two favorite in the series.

I didn't run into much challenge until the second part of Luncheon Kingdom. First half of the game overall is pretty laid back but they've done this with multiple Mario games already. I really don't have a problem with them stuffing the back half with the more challenging platformer stuff.  The rewards for collecting more moons have been pretty sweet so far. I just got the (LATE GAME OUTFIT SPOILER)
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Diddy Kong outfit.  :gladbron  :checkit
[close]
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Let's Cyber on October 29, 2017, 07:56:49 PM
I don't know if this is a spoiler or not but I'll put it in tags just in case.

I don't think this thing unlocks until you beat story but it's a fantastic feature and I have no idea why it isn't in Breath of the Wild
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The music selector! What a fucking godsend! Being able to listen to your favorite tracks in any Kingdom you want is amazing and holy fuck this would make BotW so much better.
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Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on October 29, 2017, 08:20:26 PM
The camera in this game is a lot like Sunshine. Much freer than Galaxy's camera was although it still fights you when it wants to turn a certain way and you don't want it to.
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Post by: Rusty Shackleford on October 29, 2017, 08:27:06 PM
That Cat Mario sprite that pops out of the bush in the very first part of Cascade Kingdom disappears after you get the first moon using the chomp nearby. Maybe it was a way to tell the player to keep an eye out for them  :doge
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Post by: Rman on October 29, 2017, 10:16:15 PM
I like this game a lot, but 3D World is still great, brehs. I'll defend that game until die. 
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Post by: Rusty Shackleford on October 29, 2017, 10:37:25 PM
The moons remind me of those nastyass banana Runts candy.
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Post by: Tasty on October 29, 2017, 11:09:13 PM
I like this game a lot, but 3D World is still great, brehs. I'll defend that game until die. 

It's good but still the worst 3D Mario.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 29, 2017, 11:44:23 PM
Mario Sunshine is the only Mario game that straight up sucks
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Post by: EmilioEstevez on October 29, 2017, 11:46:21 PM
The

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on the beach :heartbeat
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Post by: Rusty Shackleford on October 29, 2017, 11:53:16 PM
How the hell did some of you burn through this game in three days since release? The dia de los muertos kingdom alone is yuge.
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Post by: Sho Nuff on October 30, 2017, 12:14:58 AM
oh man the Luncheon Kingdom sorta looks like they did proxy art for it then just put a nice shader on it, I'm very confused by this stylistic choice
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Let's Cyber on October 30, 2017, 12:49:20 AM
How the hell did some of you burn through this game in three days since release? The dia de los muertos kingdom alone is yuge.
Just getting through all the kingdoms doesn't take that much time. I didn't do a ton of exploration until after finishing the story.

I really doubt anyone here is close to running out of content.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: CurseoftheGods on October 30, 2017, 05:37:26 AM
I never want this game to end, it makes 3D Land look like the cheapest trash

how do you think it makes 3D world look like? i would argue the same point
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on October 30, 2017, 11:02:10 AM
Question: Playing through Galaxy 2 right now because I'm not quite ready to throw my money at a Switch. Game's later challenges are whoopin' my ass. Does Odyssey get challenging, or is it more about the joy of exploration? Mario needs to check at least one of those two boxes to really get me on the hook.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 30, 2017, 11:08:44 AM
Question: Playing through Galaxy 2 right now because I'm not quite ready to throw my money at a Switch. Game's later challenges are whoopin' my ass. Does Odyssey get challenging, or is it more about the joy of exploration? Mario needs to check at least one of those two boxes to really get me on the hook.

Odyssey is definitely easier than Galaxy 2, at least for the main campaign.  The later, post-game content I've heard is much more challenging.  But I think it's important to note that Odyssey is as difficult as you make it – as you're going through the game, if you choose to be ballsy and utilize more hardcore platforming skills, the game will reward you for your gamble.  So, while there may be a bunch of moons just out in the open that lets you continue on with the game, there is much more to find by challenging yourself to explore, make complicated jumps, and test your skills.

So I guess it's more the second thing that you asked.
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Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on October 30, 2017, 11:14:20 AM
That's cool. Sounds more 64 than Galaxy, which I'm totally down with.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 30, 2017, 11:42:41 AM
That's cool. Sounds more 64 than Galaxy, which I'm totally down with.

Honestly Odyssey plays much more like the combination of each game's best qualities.  It feels like its own kind of game.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on October 30, 2017, 12:00:36 PM
I fell off the side of a level and instead of dying, I ended up in a pit where I got chased by T-Rex wearing a hat. 11.8/10
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Post by: H.I.V.E. on October 30, 2017, 12:04:06 PM
I fell off the side of a level and instead of dying, I ended up in a pit where I got chased by T-Rex wearing a hat. 11.8/10

Lol played that bit yesterday. First pissed I fell and expecting respawn then wtf Didn't see it for some time just the sound and atmosphere kept thinking it sounds like I'm at Jurassic park then minding my own business I see it. Hide behind a rock. Thing starts smelling me and run and I get chased into a pipe.

Loving it.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 30, 2017, 12:22:56 PM
I never want this game to end, it makes 3D Land look like the cheapest trash

how do you think it makes 3D world look like? i would argue the same point

Same thing. Which blows my mind because the director/team is the same as 3D Land/World. I guess the difference is this time they actually gave them a budget and permission to go apeshit
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: kingv on October 30, 2017, 12:49:40 PM
3D World (and I think land, but never played it) in my mind are really a different type of mario game. 3D world is still ultimately about finishing the level. It’s not about exploration or collecting moons/stars. Iirc there is a dumb gate near the end that requires you to have a certain number of some type of collectible, but in my mind 3D world was more of a “what if we made a 3D mario with the progression of a 2D one”. And odyssey is like “let’s make a sequel to galaxy/64/sunshine.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 30, 2017, 04:43:43 PM
3D World (and I think land, but never played it) in my mind are really a different type of mario game. 3D world is still ultimately about finishing the level. It’s not about exploration or collecting moons/stars. Iirc there is a dumb gate near the end that requires you to have a certain number of some type of collectible, but in my mind 3D world was more of a “what if we made a 3D mario with the progression of a 2D one”. And odyssey is like “let’s make a sequel to galaxy/64/sunshine.

Odyssey is like eating prime rib.  3D Land/World is like getting blasted in the face by tubgirl.  Different things but one is obviously better than the other
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Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on October 30, 2017, 04:46:25 PM
3D World was like Galaxy but without the room to get really nutty because everything had to be playable by 4 simultaneous players.
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Post by: Rusty Shackleford on October 30, 2017, 06:09:56 PM
Mario Sunshine is the only Mario game that straight up sucks

fite me
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: tiesto on October 30, 2017, 06:35:06 PM
Just made it past New Donk to the ice world... my big issue with Odyssey so far is that it seems like they didn't really let the ideas marinate much, they just constantly throw new things at you instead of introducing a mechanic, expanding on it, and increasing the challenge as you come to terms with the mechanic.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 30, 2017, 06:36:19 PM
I have like 450 moons and none of them have been hard so far. The "post game" is more moons just like the old ones in the old levels, not big challenges. Still need like 50 more to get the final kingdom though.

Still enjoying it though.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Trurl on October 30, 2017, 07:42:30 PM
Just made it past New Donk to the ice world... my big issue with Odyssey so far is that it seems like they didn't really let the ideas marinate much, they just constantly throw new things at you instead of introducing a mechanic, expanding on it, and increasing the challenge as you come to terms with the mechanic.
Great point.  Any Mario game that is too easy suffers from this.  Way back when the first NSMB came out I thought that it had some really creative concepts in its level design, but it did fuck all with them because they wanted babies to be able to play.  The problem is less severe in Odyssey, or perhaps I'm just an old man who is happy with stuff being easy.

My number one complaint about Odyssey is even though collecting moons is fun, it feels meaningless compared to objectives in past 3D Marios.  It used to be that every star took some sustained effort to collect and most of them were even part of some little story.  Moons are mostly things that you bump into which gives you a bit of excitement and keep you playing.  It's design for the tiny and fractured attention spans of 2017.

Still love the game and it makes me want revisit Mario's entire platforming catalog
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 30, 2017, 07:49:56 PM
I'm not sure I agree – I think those objectives you talk about are still there – they're just disguised under the 3 moon objectives as opposed to gaining singular moons.  Does that make sense?
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 30, 2017, 09:40:38 PM
I think some moons are big events and some are small. As long as there are more than like 7 good ones per kingdom that's still better than SM64. And it only takes like 2 per kingdom to top Sunshine.

NSMB was harder than this. And the more recent games in both 3D and 2D all had pretty hard levels at the end. This doesn't seem to.

Still having fun though.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 30, 2017, 09:44:34 PM
It also sucks that you can't tell if you got a moon already unless you complete its task. So sparkling birds, spots on the floor, etc still sparkle yellow even if they produce a dull moon. Coming back to this game in a month or even trying to 100% it now seems like it'd be a pain in the ass for that reason. In SM64/SMS it was very clear what you had left to do.
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Post by: naff on October 30, 2017, 11:16:30 PM
I played a while with a friend yesterday who was near completion. It was fun enough, but feels much more like a game i need to sink my teeth into to understand what's up vs Galaxy 1/2 where you could jam a level any time and have a blast. Going back to try complete an area and get new moons, I found that same issue of completing objectives for dull moons and not being able to tell the diff, or really have any idea what the fk i was supposed to be doing.
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Post by: Scrooged on October 31, 2017, 12:17:00 AM
Just made it past New Donk to the ice world... my big issue with Odyssey so far is that it seems like they didn't really let the ideas marinate much, they just constantly throw new things at you instead of introducing a mechanic, expanding on it, and increasing the challenge as you come to terms with the mechanic.

Like with the previous Mario games (3D World/Land, Galaxies) you get most of the tougher challenges post game.  The main story line of Bowser's wedding is basically the tutorial for the game mechanics.  And while it is easy as hell, it's also fun as hell.  The sheer number of puzzle and platforming mechanics allows them to extend out the easy part of the game, allowing small children and casual players to 'finish' the game.  For anyone else that wants more of a challenge, there's a ton of content waiting at the end.
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Post by: Kalnos on October 31, 2017, 01:01:23 AM
Fuck that 100 jump rope thing, my hand was hurting after doing it for a while.  I don't know why I suck at that kinda shit.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 31, 2017, 07:02:26 AM
Just made it past New Donk to the ice world... my big issue with Odyssey so far is that it seems like they didn't really let the ideas marinate much, they just constantly throw new things at you instead of introducing a mechanic, expanding on it, and increasing the challenge as you come to terms with the mechanic.

Like with the previous Mario games (3D World/Land, Galaxies) you get most of the tougher challenges post game.  The main story line of Bowser's wedding is basically the tutorial for the game mechanics.  And while it is easy as hell, it's also fun as hell.  The sheer number of puzzle and platforming mechanics allows them to extend out the easy part of the game, allowing small children and casual players to 'finish' the game.  For anyone else that wants more of a challenge, there's a ton of content waiting at the end.

Where is this challenge? I've gotten 200 moons after beating the game and most of them are still pounding the ground and jumping at trees in old levels. There are new pipe challenge rooms but they don't seem more difficult than the old ones either.
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Post by: Let's Cyber on October 31, 2017, 08:38:32 AM
The post-game unlockable worlds and the platinum pipes levels are the "challenge" people are referring too.

Whether or not you find them difficult is another thing entirely. 
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 31, 2017, 09:35:36 AM
I just don't see how it is harder. 90% of the new moons are exactly the same sort of things you've done already, just in new positions.

There are maybe 2-3 new pipes per world that I don't think set out to be any harder than most of the normal ones. I haven't gone to two of the three new areas, but I don't think the large-scale style of environments in this game are going to produce the high intensity challenge of the postgame in the last half a dozen Mario games. The first of the three new areas is not hard at all.

It's definitely more stuff, and it's fun, but it's weird to see it called challenging when the designers don't really seem to be trying to make it a hard shift. Especially since the designers totally DID do that in the last few games, so people who have played those will have the wrong expectation.

Unless those last two worlds really blow the doors off things. I've been picking through the old worlds in order first.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 31, 2017, 10:32:08 AM
I just played a really hard 2d bit right after the main story ended  :doge
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Let's Cyber on October 31, 2017, 10:35:20 AM
I just don't see how it is harder. 90% of the new moons are exactly the same sort of things you've done already, just in new positions.
You're right, there are a bunch of new moons added to the levels. But no one is claiming all new scattered moons are challenging.

I don't know what platinum pipe levels you've completed, but they're definitely the analog to the F.L.U.D.D.-less platforming levels of Sunshine or the end-game Galaxy 1 type platforming stuff. When I say the harder levels, that is what I'm and I am assuming others are referring too.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 31, 2017, 11:03:36 AM
I just did one of those in the snow level that was just running along a flower path jumping over some super easy spinning spikes and then dodging some basic ass bullet bills. Jump to the left once for a secret moon. I think I've done all of them in the prior levels.

I don't think I've seen one yet that's as hard as even some of the main game ones from SMG, or even the last boss of the 3D series. They honestly don't seem especially harder than the green pipes from the first pass, for a more comparable example. Throughout the game I felt like they were easier versions of the fludd-less concept.

I was hoping they'd ramp up the need to use their mechanics in the post game but so far it's more of the same. Which I do like. But I was hoping to see the mechanics tested more since they are so good.

I will say that I can't figure out
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but I have a feeling that's more about exploring than platforming acumen.
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Post by: Let's Cyber on October 31, 2017, 11:28:33 AM
I haven't completed that specific snow level so I can't comment. Point is, those new pipes are this game's equivalent to Sunshine's FLUDD-less levels or purple coin challenges in Galaxy. They're the hardest levels in THIS game. Is Odyssey overall easier than past 3D games? Probably. Much easier than Galaxy 2. It's been awhile since I beat Galaxy 1 but I remember the purple coins at the end of that game weren't crazy difficult.

In terms of the last 3 worlds
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the Mushroom Kingdom doors have buffed up versions of the bosses. It also has, at least so far, the hardest 2D level in the game. The Dark side of the moon is a boss rush mode which I still haven't beat. You only get one life. Getting 500 moons unlocks the last level and it is a worthy challenge comparable to harder levels of any other 3D Mario level, based on my 8-10 attempts. Again, you have to get through with only one life. Still haven't beaten it.
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Post by: Himu on October 31, 2017, 04:42:45 PM
So my concerns pre-release. Legit it seems.

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Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 31, 2017, 04:45:10 PM
oh, welcome back to the thread  ::)
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Himu on October 31, 2017, 04:47:15 PM
Apparently the game ups the challenge in the post-game. Sounds like a standard modern Mario with a boring regular game and a better post-game. So basically a 3d Land situation. It's nice to see people who said my concerns were baseless eat nice, fat crow.

(https://nyoobserver.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/cersei-smirk.gif)

Vindicated.
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Post by: nachobro on October 31, 2017, 05:03:18 PM
That description fits imo. A big part of the reason I love this Mario so much more than others is that it rewards you for bending its rules, much like BOTW did. If you have the execution to skip a big part of a platforming section (or whatever is in the way) not only will it let you but it will usually give you something as a bonus for doing it (coins, heart, whatever). I'm a big fan of that over invisible walls or some nonsense to force you to follow a specific path.

In addition it does have some cool setpieces, some pretty decent difficulty during the main game, plenty of difficult post-game, and is really just a fun and unique take on Mario. Easily the best one since Galaxy and in some ways my favorite in the series now.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Himu on October 31, 2017, 05:07:57 PM
Someone post a video a of an example of Mario Odyssey's harder platforming bits, please.
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Post by: Himu on October 31, 2017, 05:09:19 PM
So is this 1:1 to SM3DL where the real game starts in the post-game and the regular game is for casuals? No spoilers please. And by spoilers I mean "this is a creative stage you have to see yourself" spoiler.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: nachobro on October 31, 2017, 05:16:14 PM
So is this 1:1 to SM3DL where the real game starts in the post-game and the regular game is for casuals?
I'd say the last third of the game is where the difficulty ramps up a bit (Luncheon Kingdom and after) for the mainline game but also depending on how deep you wanna go with moon collection, you can get into some tougher parts early. If you just collect the minimum amount of moons needed to beat the game, no it isn't difficult at all really. IIRC the minimum amount of moons to beat the game is 124 but there's like 860 some total? You CAN beat it without any challenge, but the challenge is there if you want it.

Also post-game content spoiler of the harder platforming stuff
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QtP72hrCqg
This is in the Darker Side world, need 500 moons to unlock it and there are no checkpoints for this entire sequence. It's pretty tough
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 31, 2017, 07:25:13 PM
So is this 1:1 to SM3DL where the real game starts in the post-game and the regular game is for casuals? No spoilers please. And by spoilers I mean "this is a creative stage you have to see yourself" spoiler.

Read my posts on this page lol
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Post by: Tasty on October 31, 2017, 07:39:38 PM
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Apparently the game ups the challenge in the post-game. Sounds like a standard modern Mario with a boring regular game and a better post-game. So basically a 3d Land situation. It's nice to see people who said my concerns were baseless eat nice, fat crow.

:confused

How is this a "concern" and when was it disputed? Oh wow a Mario game that isn't challenging until the post-game. I'm shocked. Even though that literally describes every one except Sunshine.

What you got me riled up about was calling footage "boring" with "no platforming," which is patently and obviously false.

And again, difficulty does not equal quality.

PS- Play the game yourself instead of regurgitating half-formed opinions you've read on the web. :ufup

"Vindicated" ::) You haven't even played the fucking game.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Let's Cyber on October 31, 2017, 11:06:18 PM
Odyssey is just as much a game about exploration and adventure as it is about platforming. And even then there is still plenty of platforming.

If you're ok with that, it is an amazing experience.
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Post by: Rich! on November 01, 2017, 03:30:59 AM
The platforming really comes into its own in the second half of the game after you beat bowser

And speaking of th e second half, it's insane. The game just keeps going and going.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 01, 2017, 03:49:24 AM
I only played for a few hours but died a few times, also went back to the first world to try to get all moons but there's a pretty hardcore platforming section there inside the tower.

Its not hotline miami/super meat boy duh where you pull your hair out at every turn, but its a game that anyone can have fun with, with optional challenges and lots of things to find.

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Post by: Joe Molotov on November 01, 2017, 09:50:50 AM
Game is a critical and commercial smash hit.

"Well, looks like I'm vindicated for hating this game."

 :patel
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Post by: bork on November 01, 2017, 10:01:20 AM
Got about 30 moons left to go before hitting 500.  Finding the rabbit boss rush section frustrating, too.  I keep getting a heart boost before going in, and lose all my hit points by the second battle, no matter how careful I am.  :'(

I will say that I can't figure out
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but I have a feeling that's more about exploring than platforming acumen.

This drove me nuts, too, and it turns out it super-simple-
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You just run to the left of the castle and throw your hat on a scarecrow.  And stairs appear!  :lol
:dead

But I think the scarecrow doesn't pop up until you re-visit all the worlds and talk to Peach in each one.

I also couldn't figure out how to get the fruit out of the pipe in the castle moat...then it hit me that you just pull out the wooden pegs at the bottom and it drains.
:neogaf
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 01, 2017, 10:19:54 AM
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that's not true, I was able to get on top of the castle my first visit there by using the scarecrow
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 01, 2017, 10:20:10 AM
Just hit 500 moons

Can confirm both bonus pipes in the fairly late-game lunch kingdom are shit easy

I wonder if the difficulty curve would seem less flat if I had just done the bare minimum on each kingdom before moving on. Instead, I always stayed in a kingdom until I could find as much as I could before moving on. I usually had about 2/3rds of the normal-game moon count before going to the next kingdom. So I guess if I had just gotten the 5 or 10 minimum that is asked of the player, I would feel like I was doing "post-game challenges" if I returned after beating the last boss.

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Post by: DCharlieJP on November 01, 2017, 10:44:08 AM
well, finally got to the post game - very nice :D

Only slight downer i'd say was Luncheon world , which I hated.

Guess it's time to go get all them moons
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Post by: kingv on November 01, 2017, 01:49:51 PM
So are there 500 moons or somewhat more?

I just got to bowser this morning while having a morning shit but had to turn it off to go to work. Can’t wait to play the ending level tonight
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 01, 2017, 02:03:41 PM
somewhere near 850 moons I think
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Post by: H.I.V.E. on November 02, 2017, 01:41:28 AM
somewhere near 850 moons I think

Holy shit  :PP

I am taking my time with it. Just got to the metro outskirts. Not gonna rush also play other games so all good. Think I got 200 moon's or something.
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Post by: Rich! on November 02, 2017, 03:41:57 AM
Brought my switch to work again today. I've turned into a loner each day now using my lunch break to search for moons
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Post by: Let's Cyber on November 02, 2017, 04:06:10 AM
Hold the phone.

The vendor on one of the maps sells 10 moons at a time. I spent 3000 coins before stopping and it appears he has more. Can you just buy as many as you want?
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Post by: agrajag on November 02, 2017, 05:09:20 AM
Just started playing. The game looks very vibrant and pretty in comparison to Zelda.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 02, 2017, 07:23:09 AM
Hold the phone.

The vendor on one of the maps sells 10 moons at a time. I spent 3000 coins before stopping and it appears he has more. Can you just buy as many as you want?

Yea
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on November 02, 2017, 07:40:14 AM
New Donk City is where the real Mario Odyssey starts.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 02, 2017, 07:41:11 AM
Really? Just got there last night  8)

Just started playing. The game looks very vibrant and pretty in comparison to Zelda.

Wait so Zelda doesnt look as good as this?

Playing this actually made me want to try Zelda.
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Post by: sinxtanx on November 02, 2017, 08:43:02 AM
Wait so Zelda doesnt look as good as this?

Playing this actually made me want to try Zelda.

Zelda goes for a muted watercolor look while Mario is full pastel
Zelda still looks very good, I think
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Post by: benjipwns on November 02, 2017, 09:17:00 AM
Hold the phone.

The vendor on one of the maps sells 10 moons at a time. I spent 3000 coins before stopping and it appears he has more. Can you just buy as many as you want?
this sounds kinda shady man, i dunno if i'd trust him and his "technically legal" business operation

cindi vindicated yet again
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Post by: Let's Cyber on November 02, 2017, 09:26:55 AM
He said they were 100% legit moons, fresh cut.

I had no reason not to believe him but looking back I probably got lower quality product. Might have been a goomba dressed up as a toad.

Fuck this terrible game.
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Post by: demi on November 02, 2017, 09:28:53 AM
Wait you can just buy the moons and not have to play the game?
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 02, 2017, 10:03:56 AM
I thought you could just buy 1 moon per stage and have been doing that. Thought this was part the "counted" moons per stage.
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on November 02, 2017, 10:48:29 AM
just finished the game and went back to the cap kingdom. how do i get to the beacon in the sea of clouds?
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 02, 2017, 11:21:54 AM
I thought you could just buy 1 moon per stage and have been doing that. Thought this was part the "counted" moons per stage.

There is one stage moon which I believe is part of the main list of moons for a stage. Could be wrong. In the postgame you can buy an unlimited number of moons for 100 coins each if you want the extra kingdoms unlocks but don't want to play the game. Just one of the many challenging features you will find in the Odyssey postgame.
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Post by: agrajag on November 02, 2017, 11:47:58 AM
Really? Just got there last night  8)

Just started playing. The game looks very vibrant and pretty in comparison to Zelda.

Wait so Zelda doesnt look as good as this?

Playing this actually made me want to try Zelda.

I think Zelda looks good, but very washed out at times with way too much bloom and some very shitty textures in places. Mario seems to have much crisper image quality
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Post by: bork on November 02, 2017, 12:16:27 PM
just finished the game and went back to the cap kingdom. how do i get to the beacon in the sea of clouds?

Beacon?

But you can get to most things by possessing a flying Goomba.
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Post by: bork on November 02, 2017, 12:19:09 PM
Re: Buying the moons from the shops post-game- As far as I understand it, if you want to get the "secret ending" you earn from getting 999 moons, you have to find them all in the game.  Buying them won't count towards this.  But you can totally use the shop to get 500 moons and get the last unlockable challenge level open.
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Post by: H.I.V.E. on November 02, 2017, 12:48:25 PM
Really? Just got there last night  8)

Just started playing. The game looks very vibrant and pretty in comparison to Zelda.

Wait so Zelda doesnt look as good as this?

Playing this actually made me want to try Zelda.

I think Zelda looks good, but very washed out at times with way too much bloom and some very shitty textures in places. Mario seems to have much crisper image quality

Probably because it was developed for WiiU.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 02, 2017, 02:46:40 PM
thats a little disappointing to hear about Zelda
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on November 02, 2017, 03:15:49 PM
the endgame makes it an A+ 10/10 game
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Post by: Eteric on November 02, 2017, 04:00:04 PM
So I need three more coins in the sand kingdom. I can feel my sanity slipping away. Anyone have any idea where they are?

Also, 702 moons now.
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Post by: desert punk on November 02, 2017, 05:10:00 PM
I'm at the Wooded Kingdom now and this game is lit  8)

I know this is gonna sound weird but it's the most fun I had with a Mario game since Wario Land 2 for the Gameboy. Since then I've owned a Gamecube, a Wii and a DS but none of the past Mario titles on there have caught my interest for very long. Not sure why it's different now. I guess the game is just simply great, but I think it's also because how easy it is to play with the Switch in handheld mode and still be able to experience that lavish console feeling. It's my first Switch game but I think i'm gonna have a lot of fun with that console in the future.

It also makes me want to revisit the past Mario games. Is there even a remote chance that the Galaxy titles are going to be ported to the Switch?
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Post by: Sho Nuff on November 02, 2017, 05:18:56 PM
It also makes me want to revisit the past Mario games. Is there even a remote chance that the Galaxy titles are going to be ported to the Switch?

That would give me a POWERFUL boner
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Post by: Kevtones on November 02, 2017, 05:35:35 PM
I'm really impressed with this game. Thought New Donk City was going to be lame and it's honestly become one of my favorite Mario levels ever.

This might be better than Zelda. Wtf.
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Post by: Eteric on November 02, 2017, 06:26:55 PM
It also makes me want to revisit the past Mario games. Is there even a remote chance that the Galaxy titles are going to be ported to the Switch?

That would give me a POWERFUL boner

If Galaxy 1 and 2 got ported I would legit freak out.
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Post by: Let's Cyber on November 02, 2017, 06:40:36 PM
Galaxy did have that dumb shit with the pointer for collecting starbits. Not sure how that would transition to Switch unless they reworked the game and removed it.

The spin would work fine with the joycons or pro controller though.
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Post by: Kalnos on November 02, 2017, 06:46:11 PM
So I need three more coins in the sand kingdom. I can feel my sanity slipping away. Anyone have any idea where they are?

Also, 702 moons now.

There are three that are off the edge of the map, you have to hang off the edge to get them.  I found them randomly but I'm pretty sure I couldn't if I was trying.   :lol
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 02, 2017, 06:49:51 PM
I'm somehow missing 1 on the last main game kingdom even though I feel like they are never single.
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Post by: TEEEPO on November 02, 2017, 07:24:00 PM
So I need three more coins in the sand kingdom. I can feel my sanity slipping away. Anyone have any idea where they are?

Also, 702 moons now.

can you not use toad late game?

i'm too old to torture myself attempting to look for every moon on my own.
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Post by: Eteric on November 03, 2017, 10:01:41 AM
So I need three more coins in the sand kingdom. I can feel my sanity slipping away. Anyone have any idea where they are?

Also, 702 moons now.

can you not use toad late game?

i'm too old to torture myself attempting to look for every moon on my own.

Toad doesn't help you with coins I don't think. I found them, though. Had to look up a video. :(

Also these koopa races are pissing me off. lol
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Post by: Kevtones on November 04, 2017, 03:29:21 AM
Fuck this game. It's too good. Like really.

- The Snow level is fucking charming. The too long sleeves got me.
- This has the best level design of any game I've played.
- Solid NPCs.
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Post by: desert punk on November 04, 2017, 07:18:21 AM
What's the deal with that goomba with the girly red hat? Saw one in the sand kingdom and now in the wooded kingdom. Do I get a moon if I catch them? And how do I do that? They immediately disappear if you get close to them.
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Post by: team filler on November 04, 2017, 07:20:50 AM
bi
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Post by: sinxtanx on November 04, 2017, 08:21:27 AM
What's the deal with that goomba with the girly red hat? Saw one in the sand kingdom and now in the wooded kingdom. Do I get a moon if I catch them? And how do I do that? They immediately disappear if you get close to them.

introduce them to a guy you think they'll like
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on November 04, 2017, 09:21:33 AM
I "finished" the game, got to the first post-game kingdom and then unlocked the next area after that.


Now the Odyssey needs 250 more moons to get the next area. Time to get to work.
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Post by: desert punk on November 04, 2017, 11:29:39 AM
What's the deal with that goomba with the girly red hat? Saw one in the sand kingdom and now in the wooded kingdom. Do I get a moon if I catch them? And how do I do that? They immediately disappear if you get close to them.

introduce them to a guy you think they'll like

I can be so daft at times :neogaf

It worked, thx.
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Post by: Freyj on November 04, 2017, 07:44:59 PM
The one thing I don’t care for here is the colored 3D block levels. The platforming is enjoyable but they just feel lazy.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on November 04, 2017, 09:13:07 PM
What's the deal with that goomba with the girly red hat? Saw one in the sand kingdom and now in the wooded kingdom. Do I get a moon if I catch them? And how do I do that? They immediately disappear if you get close to them.

introduce them to a guy you think they'll like

I can be so daft at times :neogaf

It worked, thx.

When you see Ms. Goombette, that means it's goomba stacking time! :hyper
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Post by: Tasty on November 05, 2017, 03:38:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7Z2I9x4Pd0

(https://nyoobserver.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/cersei-smirk.gif)

Vindicated.
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on November 05, 2017, 05:19:57 PM
mario dress as diddy kong is some kind of next-level nightmare.
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Post by: Clockwork5 on November 05, 2017, 06:28:00 PM
Man, this game is sooo good. 10/10 idk maybe? But regardless, the mix of instant "oh look another moon" gratification and "I finally got that fucking moon" relief is damn near perfect.
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Post by: ToxicAdam on November 06, 2017, 08:30:13 AM
Nintendo should just take that Dunkey review and turn it into a commercial.  They'll never make an ad that sells the game better than that.
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Post by: benjipwns on November 06, 2017, 10:34:55 AM
saying new donk city is great, i haven't played the game at all but dunkey discredited forever for supporting GTA nonsense with no platforming over real Mario

 :donot
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Post by: Joe Molotov on November 06, 2017, 10:53:12 AM
saying new donk city is great, i haven't played the game at all but dunkey discredited forever for supporting GTA nonsense with no platforming over real Mario

 :donot

oh god he's back, it's happening again
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Post by: benjipwns on November 06, 2017, 01:39:55 PM
Plus I heard from deep gaming industry sources that this edgelord dunkey guy helped Trump steal the election:
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Find it hard to enjoy dunkey after learning he still supports and associates with jontron :(
Quote from: messofanego
With all these white edgelords (Dunkey, Jontron, Pewdiepie, iDubbbz, etc) it's either "taco" or the N word they love to use. He might have cooled off on these words, but his friends aren't helping by normalising it and making it in a friendlier version. However marginalised groups call each other, like girls calling each other bitches, as in taking ownership of oppressive words, that's their prerogative. But not for a straight white male like Dunkey and other edgelords.

Not surprised a Gamergate supporting Nintendo fan boy who's forced to perform gay minstrel shows would post his hate speech laden videos in what should be a thread about Nintendo's betrayal of long time true Mario fans.
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Post by: nachobro on November 06, 2017, 01:41:35 PM
dunkey is white? wouldn't have expected that
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Post by: benjipwns on November 06, 2017, 03:05:21 PM
dunkey is white? wouldn't have expected that
if you watched his videos you'd know that he is of Puerto Rican descent ooooh

spoiler (click to show/hide)
And that dunkey revealed JonTron's racism during that same video well before anything else
spoiler (click to show/hide)
AND THAT JONTRON IS THE PARROT WAKE UP PEOPLE HE'S THE PARROT
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[close]
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 06, 2017, 10:01:12 PM
Cool, man
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Post by: Tasty on November 06, 2017, 11:34:03 PM
I've only sat down to play Mario Odyssey three times, but with every kingdom I'm doubling the minimum amount of Power Moons I'm supposed to get lol. So I'm sitting at 113... with at least two full kingdoms to go (apparently you can beat the game with 120.)

It pisses me off that I can see Moons I can't get yet (or didn't figure out how to get...) :P

My impressions so far is that it's not as good or... holistic as 64 and Galaxy but it's been a joy to play so far with some short bursts of pretty demanding platforming already. It balances exploration and platforming expertly. Even New Donk City, the biggest area I've unlocked so far, is packed with content, collectables, and platforming challenges at every turn.

Applying the Korok Seed template to the main collectable was absolutely the right call. You're constantly getting bursts of dopamine egging you on to play more and more. Genius game design. In a free-to-play game I'd say it's criminal, but in a full retail game of this quality, it's stellar game design.

I'm really glad I didn't watch very much gameplay footage of this game. Basically just saw the two trailers and that's it. I'd definitely recommend doing the same if you think you'll play this in the future. Even dunkey's vid spoiled a cool thing or two for me and it was almost completely "spoiler" free.
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Post by: a slime appears on November 07, 2017, 09:39:32 AM
I like Mario Odyssey more than the Galaxy series.

This game is in my top 3 Mario easily.
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Post by: nachobro on November 07, 2017, 01:26:18 PM
Definitely a top 3 Mario. SMW, Odyssey, and Galaxy are my top three but I dunno what order heh
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Post by: Joe Molotov on November 07, 2017, 04:10:44 PM
Beat the main story this weekend and am currently up to 325 moons. This game is a treasure, collecting the moons is actually fun because they're hidden in places that are so well designed that you want to explore them. I spent an hour yesterday afternoon just poking around Hat Kingdom (the smallest area in the game, except for Dark Souls Kingdom :doge ).
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 07, 2017, 04:27:46 PM
Beat Bowser today and started to revisit kingdoms one by one, see how far I get without guides

great game, even if not as “epic” as Mario 64
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Post by: Bebpo on November 09, 2017, 02:23:58 AM
Finished up the main game and collecting moons, got to the darker side of the moon and still going through old stages for the new stars.

Liked the game a lot, had great variety and generally a good pace with a mix of exploration and platforming challenges. My only complaints are no ghost house world (starting hat world isn't really close enough) and generally the game is too easy outside some annoying moons. Also a general complaint I have with 3d mario is I hate how slow Mario runs, but I still prefer 3d mario > 2d mario slightly. I do wish there were more actual stages instead of just all the short challenge bursts. The latter is fun, but the former is real platforming and the lack of stages is partly why it feels kinda easy.

I really liked the Galaxy games. In fact I'd have no problem saying they are my favorite 3d Mario games. Wasn't too impressed by 3d World despite all the raving. Was fun but forgettable. Then again I didn't play it 4p which was the main draw, just 1p. Odyssey feels somewhere between 3d World and Galaxy too me. Sunshine behind them all and 64 last cause fuck nostalgia.

This and BoTW in the same year is pretty strong for Nintendo. Both are the best two Nintendo games I've played since like Galaxy 2 or something. I still need to play NSMB U though, have it sitting around on the Wii U but never got to it since I'm not big on the NSMB aesthetic and the Wii U hardware sucks (moreso now that Switch exists and going back to that big bulky tablet is ugh; port all Wii U games to Switch plz).
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Post by: Eteric on November 09, 2017, 06:21:31 AM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://youtu.be/m6z3OXyFE-I
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Post by: Joe Molotov on November 09, 2017, 10:30:38 AM
I think New Donk City and the Wooded Kingdom are my two favorite worlds. I played those two levels last night for about 5 hours, I thought it had been like 2 hours.
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Post by: Let's Cyber on November 09, 2017, 02:30:51 PM
tfw you're exploring Steam Gardens in the Wooden Kingdom and you suddenly have the urge to dance like a white guy from the early 60s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKBjbjZfTiM

(https://i.imgur.com/OJMvooV.gif)
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 11, 2017, 05:21:42 PM
This game is now in my top 10 or top 5 of last 10 years.

256 moons in so far.
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Post by: Himu on November 11, 2017, 06:26:42 PM
Forgot to say I played a bit of Odyssey. And wanted to apologize for trolling last time. I can't help myself.

Anyways, I noticed the controls felt stiff to me compared to 64/Sunshine/Galaxy. Like Mario had more weight to him. I'm not happy about that change but it still controlled well. I played one of the worlds and the game was harder than I thought precisely due to the more weighted controls. I liked what I played although it was a very small portion. I look forward to playing it in full when I get a switch.
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Post by: Bebpo on November 11, 2017, 09:22:27 PM
That part in New Donk City where

spoiler (click to show/hide)
You go in the theater and play SMB1
[close]

Was very cool. Enjoying all the little nostalgia bits and puzzles. Still going through all the stages a second time now post-game, only have 4 worlds left. Think I'm around 320 or so moons and that's not using any guides or anything, just getting whatever I can find exploring around.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 12, 2017, 01:30:49 AM
Same way Im playing
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Post by: sinxtanx on November 12, 2017, 07:15:42 AM
got every purple coin and moon
saved the levels after the last level for last
they weren't even hard :smug

last moon landed me on
spoiler (click to show/hide)
900 because I bought a bunch in Mushroom Kingdom before figuring out they were inexhaustible
[close]
moons

now all that's left is to grind money for some clothes that are left and maxing out moons
and after that...this is one of those games I know I'm going to return to and do it all again someday

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Post by: agrajag on November 12, 2017, 12:06:00 PM
Got damn. The game is starting to make sense to me. I've only been playing in short bursts, but at first when I played the Cascade Kingdom I was like "well, this is a stupid easy game for babbies," and then I got to the wooded kingdom and it all started to click. The game doesn't want to throw everything at once at you, but as it introduces new elements and builds on them it just becomes a pure joy to play.
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on November 12, 2017, 03:08:26 PM
I did Darker Side of the Moon in Assist Mode. I have to admit, it's one of the highlights of the game (perfect challenge in easy mode, pretty sadistic otherwise). I would have to say that this is the best Mario game I have played. I am at 520 stars now, and I don't think I am going to stop anytime soon.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 13, 2017, 08:51:54 AM
Whats easy mode?  And are you talking about
spoiler (click to show/hide)
the first multi moon with the bosses in sequence or whats after that?
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on November 13, 2017, 09:15:35 AM
Whats easy mode?  And are you talking about
spoiler (click to show/hide)
the first multi moon with the bosses in sequence or whats after that?
[close]

Assist Mode
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 13, 2017, 10:10:14 AM
Took me quite a few tries on normal (no clue how many but more then a dozen for sure) but it was very satisfying indeed

Challenges like this is why I dont agree with the “too easy” crowd
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on November 13, 2017, 01:25:21 PM
Took me quite a few tries on normal (no clue how many but more then a dozen for sure) but it was very satisfying indeed

Challenges like this is why I dont agree with the “too easy” crowd

i am talking about the very last level... i don't think i have the patience to finish it on normal :3

i think the level of challenge is perfect in assist mode; i would have done it in normal if the level had checkpoints
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Post by: agrajag on November 13, 2017, 07:35:32 PM
is mario taking a piss out of sonic? There are parts where it's all "gotta go fast" and mario is even running through rings
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Post by: Bebpo on November 13, 2017, 09:47:29 PM
Maybe I’ll try darker side on assist. Tried it once and was like nah. I fucking hate moon gravity. Already have enough problems with 3d Mario camera and judging distances at times, but at least I know the jumping physics and where I’m gonna land when I jump. Moon gravity fucks that all up and I have to watch my shadow the whole time.

Really didn’t like the final world because of it. Would’ve been better if the world before was the final world. Though the last level challenge was good.
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on November 14, 2017, 11:49:06 AM
Maybe I’ll try darker side on assist. Tried it once and was like nah. I fucking hate moon gravity. Already have enough problems with 3d Mario camera and judging distances at times, but at least I know the jumping physics and where I’m gonna land when I jump. Moon gravity fucks that all up and I have to watch my shadow the whole time.

Really didn’t like the final world because of it. Would’ve been better if the world before was the final world. Though the last level challenge was good.

i really do think you should try darker side on assist. it's one of the highlights of the game, imo
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Post by: Eteric on November 14, 2017, 03:53:55 PM
The jump rope thing is going to make me suicidal.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on November 14, 2017, 03:55:40 PM
The jump rope thing is going to make me suicidal.

I gave up on that and the Picture Match. Fuck you Toad, that shit was was close enough, you snobby prick. 72 my white ass. :maf
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 14, 2017, 04:04:21 PM
i got 72 too, but i know how to beat it now

ill just use some see through paper and draw mario

see who laughs then toad
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Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on November 14, 2017, 04:25:01 PM
Picture Match is easy, just take a screenshot before you get started.

Also: Fuck every Koopa in this game.
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Post by: nachobro on November 14, 2017, 04:27:14 PM
Yeah I took a pic on my phone
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Post by: Eteric on November 14, 2017, 04:28:19 PM
The picture match shit I got on like my 14th try. The funny thing is the one that passed was worse than all of my other ones from an objective standpoint.

Jump rope and volleyball may stop me from 100%ing this game, though. Shit is infuriating.
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Post by: sinxtanx on November 14, 2017, 05:15:50 PM
NEXT LEVEL STRATS DETAILED BELOW

Jump Rope
rotate the camera around to the side and jump when the rope hits the ground
OR
just use the sound cue
[close]

Volleyball
walk towards the ball and throw your damn hat
[close]

these missions are slightly tedious but take 20 minutes max to clear

Picture Match
pay attention to which eye is which
[close]

you can do it, I believe in you
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Post by: agrajag on November 15, 2017, 12:31:25 PM
I went back to finish Zelda after playing Mario for a while, and it's kind of jarring how bad Zelda looks in comparison, especially the frame rate.
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Post by: Bebpo on November 15, 2017, 01:16:40 PM
Picture match is bullshit. That's definitely the part where I said "nope, not going for all the moons in this game". I didn't find jumprope/volleyball that bad for some reason, but I guess I just got lucky.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on November 15, 2017, 02:59:06 PM
I thought the RC Car was going to be the worst minigame after I struggled to even make it through the practice area, but it was actually easier (for me) on the real track. :lol
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Post by: a slime appears on November 15, 2017, 09:18:05 PM
Picture match is bullshit. That's definitely the part where I said "nope, not going for all the moons in this game".

lmao just take a picture of it, it's literally the one mini-game you can easily cheat on.
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Post by: Corporal on November 16, 2017, 06:14:12 AM
The more  I play! the more I feel like they recycled some leftover nVidia showcases/demos/some unrelated game. The art style is so inconsistent. It's really jarring at times. Especially when they try to merge it, as with the Mayor of New Donk City. Aiiiigh.

Just beat the thunder dragon thing. Kinda miffed that they recycled the "hat ship broken, go get moons" setup so very blatantly. Why not at least pretend?

Still, those ruins were pretty damn fun to dick around in. Noticing that the dragon is looking at Mario was a creepy moment. Shame that you can't run around on its body for more moons. You just slide off. Booh, what a waste.

At 337 moons now. And like 8500 coins or something. Wish there was more to do with the cash.

Still waiting for a blooper to possess. It seems like such an obvious enemy. Why doesn't it exist. I know it's an odd thing to gripe about, OK. I'm not even a blooper fan. I just think the beach or the psychedelic food area could have used them instead of the octopi or fireballs.
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Post by: a slime appears on November 16, 2017, 09:10:22 AM
I genuinely get the art inconsistency complaints. However I think it really works. It's awesome to see them not be afraid to try different visual styles and simply rely on Mario as the linchpin to tie it all together. It's a Mario game, they shouldn't be afraid to experiment with visual styles since it's just one big cartoon mess anyways.
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Post by: Tasty on November 16, 2017, 10:39:16 AM
The art thing is one of the (few) reasons I still feel comfortable giving Galaxy the nod over this game.

(It was also a complaint I had with Galaxy 2 and 3D World compared to Galaxy 1, though obviously far less jarring than in Odyssey.)
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 16, 2017, 12:54:20 PM
lol i cant believe im wanting to write a defense of a nintendo game
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Post by: nachobro on November 16, 2017, 03:36:06 PM
World>Odyssey>Galaxy>2 (US)>64>3>Galaxy 2>3D Land>3D World>1>NSMB U>okay I'm bored with this now
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Post by: Let's Cyber on November 16, 2017, 04:34:05 PM
My top 5 would probably be

Galaxy=3>Odyssey>World>64

Odyssey even being in the running against some of the all time greats, nostalgia glasses and all, says a lot.
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Post by: Tasty on November 16, 2017, 05:07:15 PM
Haven't beaten Odyssey so I can't place it yet, but I think I like it more so far than SMB3 and 64.

Super Mario Galaxy > Super Mario World > Super Mario Galaxy 2 > Super Mario Bros. 3 > Super Mario 64 > New Super Mario Bros. U + Luigi U > New Super Mario Bros. Wii > Super Mario Land 2: Six Golden Coins > Super Mario 3D Land > Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels > Super Mario Bros. > Super Mario 3D World > Super Mario Bros. 2 > New Super Mario Bros. > New Super Mario Bros. 2 > Super Mario Land

I really should play Sunshine one of these days.

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If we're counting Yoshi's Island, it's tied with Galaxy at the top for me.
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Post by: nachobro on November 16, 2017, 08:44:07 PM
We're not counting Yoshi's Island (https://i.imgur.com/4eGRLsv.gif)
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Post by: Corporal on November 17, 2017, 03:31:28 AM
...Super Mario World is still da best. After that, probably SMB3. Then Galaxy, then Od...wait why are we doing lists now?

Anyway, yes, Yoshis Island is in a league of its own. Mario games have no chance of beating that.
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Post by: Corporal on November 17, 2017, 03:33:09 AM
Beat MariO yesterday evening. As in, got the staff scroll. Not "beat" beat.

Iunno. That Endboss fight felt awfully familiar with practically no new mechanic. Kind of a bummer, really. I guess it's Mario-y. The Mario64 worship is strong with this game, and that one had like ten identical boss fights against Bowser, with minimal modifications.

Still, couldn't they have mixed things up a bit? And I don't mean adding another tailswipe or two. :-\

The escape sequence and what leads up to it was cute, though.

Also: Bought the bone costume - finally, no more money! For a short while, at least. Constantly hitting the artificial 9999 limit was driving me nuts.

Random thought: Why would you ever want to propose with a jet or piranha plant... the outcome sounds terrible either way. :doge

Only fifteen moons to go until I'm at 500. I guess that's about as good as any number to stop at. For now, at least. I may be suffering a bit of burnout right now, but I will be back at it sooner rather than later. Still so much to do!

What a fun game.

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Post by: Bebpo on November 17, 2017, 03:35:46 AM
Also: Bought the bone costume - finally, no more money! For a short while, at least. Constantly hitting the artificial 9999 limit was driving me nuts.

How the fuck do you have so much money  :lol

I am always dirt poor. I've spent about 2,000 coins on 10x moons on two worlds, and bought the 1 moon on all of them, so that's probably another 1,500. Then bought some costumes, so maybe I spent another 1,000 coins, but that's 4,500 total and I've got like 200 coins to my name. Then again I never go out of my way to collect coins, just grab whatever I run through while doing the levels.

...Super Mario World is still da best. After that, probably SMB3. Then Galaxy, then Od...wait why are we doing lists now?

Hey, that's actually my list too. SMW, SMB3, Galaxy for top3.

Hmm, I don't remember Yoshi's Island being a great platformer? Like I remember having to aim the eggs all the time and it was a bit less fun than normal Mario platforming. I haven't played it in 25 years or something though, so maybe I should give it a replay. Wait, maybe I'm thinking of the DS Yoshi game. Man, I can't remember Yoshi's Island at all. I probably should replay it.
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Post by: Corporal on November 17, 2017, 04:48:31 AM
Also: Bought the bone costume - finally, no more money! For a short while, at least. Constantly hitting the artificial 9999 limit was driving me nuts.

How the fuck do you have so much money  :lol

I am always dirt poor. I've spent about 2,000 coins on 10x moons on two worlds, and bought the 1 moon on all of them, so that's probably another 1,500. Then bought some costumes, so maybe I spent another 1,000 coins, but that's 4,500 total and I've got like 200 coins to my name. Then again I never go out of my way to collect coins, just grab whatever I run through while doing the levels.
I dunno. I have been diligently exploring every nook and cranny. There's a whole shedload of goodies littered everywhere. For example, the stashes of coins randomly hidden away in hard to reach places are worth between 200 and 500 coins each. Grabbing a heart when you're full gets you some coins as well, and I cannot NOT grab a heart. And so on.

There's also the fact that having to redo a small "minigame"/2D/challenge segment due to missing a moon nets you quite a bit of cash as well. It just accumulates. The death penalty is ridiculously low in this game, and there's barely anything to spend your cash on.
...Super Mario World is still da best. After that, probably SMB3. Then Galaxy, then Od...wait why are we doing lists now?

Hey, that's actually my list too. SMW, SMB3, Galaxy for top3.

It's also a pretty diverse offering.

That said, I wish I could come to terms where to put SMB2us. I have a huge soft spot for it.

Hmm, I don't remember Yoshi's Island being a great platformer? Like I remember having to aim the eggs all the time and it was a bit less fun than normal Mario platforming. I haven't played it in 25 years or something though, so maybe I should give it a replay. Wait, maybe I'm thinking of the DS Yoshi game. Man, I can't remember Yoshi's Island at all. I probably should replay it.
Platforming is so-so in YI. There are some tricky parts, but the flutterjump can get you anywhere if you time it right. It's more about the presentation and variety. And the humongous amount of barely ever recycled end bosses. And the soundtrack. Plus, the occasional bit of humour. The whole package is incredibly cohesive.

And stay away from the DS game. It's for the better. :-\
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Post by: Bebpo on November 17, 2017, 04:53:53 AM
I actually liked the launch Yoshi touch & go game for DS. That and Feel the Magic were probably my most played launch DS games, but it was slim offerings. But yeah while I've played all the Marios outside NSMB Wii U, I've generally missed all the Yoshi Island games outside playing the first one back in the day. Next time it's on some virtual console type thing I'll give it a replay. Too lazy to mess around with roms anymore.

I have Wooly World on Wii U too, should probably play it one of these days.
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Post by: Trent Dole on November 17, 2017, 06:23:35 PM
Haven't beaten Odyssey so I can't place it yet, but I think I like it more so far than SMB3 and 64.

Super Mario Galaxy > Super Mario World > Super Mario Galaxy 2 > Super Mario Bros. 3 > Super Mario 64 > New Super Mario Bros. U + Luigi U > New Super Mario Bros. Wii > Super Mario Land 2: Six Golden Coins > Super Mario 3D Land > Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels > Super Mario Bros. > Super Mario 3D World > Super Mario Bros. 2 > New Super Mario Bros. > New Super Mario Bros. 2 > Super Mario Land

I really should play Sunshine one of these days.

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If we're counting Yoshi's Island, it's tied with Galaxy at the top for me.
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People retroactively talk too much shit about Sunshine, it was a good time. :-[
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Post by: Bebpo on November 17, 2017, 10:23:46 PM
Got 500 moons, tried darker side, no checkpoints fuck that so much. Otherwise it's fine, but no checkpoints is bullshit masochistic. Even on assist mode I get fucked at the cloud ride part since there's nowhere along the ride to stop and rest and regain health and have to start from scratch all over again each time. Yeah, that stage is not for me.

Otherwise everything else besides dark side was cool. Very good game.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 18, 2017, 02:01:27 AM
cant wait on darker side to kick my ass

currently on 330 moons and in the wooden kingdom
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on November 19, 2017, 01:57:50 PM
cant wait on darker side to kick my ass

currently on 330 moons and in the wooden kingdom

do it in assist mode for practice, it's much easier after that
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on November 20, 2017, 07:02:00 PM
Finished Darker Side. Wasn't as bad as I expected. Once you get to the second area you're past the worst the of it.
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Post by: sinxtanx on November 25, 2017, 07:50:17 AM
went through the game and thought about what would make good coin grinding spots
spoiler (click to show/hide)
started with the clouds one in Bowser's Castle but it was boring
so I instead got most of my coins by starting NDC Festival, tanking hits and dying in an optimal fashion on the last section which respawns all the coins, ~250 per go-around
there's also the outside of the Inverted Pyramid where you get45coins->resetwithpipe->get45coins->etc that was easy money if you don't feel up to executing jumps with more precision than a shotgun
[close]
23000 coins later and now I have gotten literally everything there is to get
all costumes
999 moons

there's not a huge reward for doing that but it's cute enough
in this moment, I am free
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 25, 2017, 08:35:45 AM
Did you get all the moons in every kingdom?

Im at 420 now
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 25, 2017, 08:55:48 AM
Just started yesterday and played through a bunch and have over 70 moons.  This game is very good.  Doesn't tickle my nerd pickle the way Galaxy did but this is still a great game.
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Post by: sinxtanx on November 25, 2017, 09:47:32 AM
Did you get all the moons in every kingdom?

I did that first, saved the last final big level you get at 500 moons for last, which landed me on 900 flat (because it took me two purchases to realize that the "buy 10 moons" option in the stores were infinite)
so I had to grind coins for the metal mario outfit and the skeleton, plus 99 moons

there was also one capture target I was missing that I had to track down
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Post by: a slime appears on November 25, 2017, 09:58:11 AM
This just edged out Galaxy for me in my top 3.

SMW + SMO + SM64.

Insane we got one of the best Zeldas and Mario games of all time in a single year. The level of brilliance and progression in their world design and extremely intelligent reward cycle is remarkable.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 25, 2017, 10:31:58 AM
Very happy i skipped most of the wii ages and the whole wii u era and jumped in now.

A 10 year nintendo break really makes me appreciate them again
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Post by: tiesto on November 25, 2017, 11:25:58 AM
I beat the game, haven't explored Dark/Darker Side yet... about 485 moons and been collecting every single moon and purple coin. The sand kingdom took forever, and fuck moving around on those Jaxis! I got everything in Cap/Cascade/Sand/Lake and am now going for the Wooded. Not sure if I can get it all done by the time Xeno 2 comes out but we'll see.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 25, 2017, 11:15:15 PM
Just started yesterday and played through a bunch and have over 70 moons.  This game is very good.  Doesn't tickle my nerd pickle the way Galaxy did but this is still a great game.

Never mind, went past the Metro Kingdom and consider it better than the Galaxy games.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on November 27, 2017, 11:56:27 AM
"beat" the game. Probably my favorite Mario game ever. I loved it.

One gripe though:

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What the fuck at the shitty pop punk near the end?  :lol Didn't ruin the awesome Bowser sequence but jesus christ at this Sonic adventure shit.
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Gotta go fast, wahoo!
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Post by: bluemax on November 28, 2017, 02:16:15 AM
Jaxis can fuck right off.
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Post by: TEEEPO on November 28, 2017, 02:46:46 AM
save for a few moons, the latter game hasn't been any more challenging



still goty
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 28, 2017, 03:29:56 AM
The challenging moons are all over the game in the challenge rooms etc. Thats the post game.

Im like 430 moons in and taking a break to play some Zelda now, best Mario game I played since 64.
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Post by: tiesto on November 28, 2017, 09:14:27 PM
save for a few moons, the latter game hasn't been any more challenging



still goty

Koopa races have been fucking with me, and some of the 'Sunshine' style platforming levels are throwing me off too... 3D Mario never seemed to control as tightly as 2D Mario, the momentum when turning or stopping/going is a bit too slow.
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Post by: Bebpo on November 28, 2017, 09:28:25 PM
Koopa races can be fucking bullshit, yeah I’m talking to you motherfucking luncheon planet where the AI runs the line magically running over lava even if the platform timing’s aren’t aligned.

Still beat that shit with my shortcuts.
But so much BS.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 29, 2017, 02:16:54 AM
Koopa races are where I burned out on the game. When I do jump back in, I'll probably start up a new file rather than finish up the meaningless spare moons I missed.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 29, 2017, 03:20:45 AM
Koopa races rely too much on that fucking double jump thing uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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Post by: a slime appears on November 30, 2017, 09:15:47 AM
Koopa races is how the game teaches you to git gud with the hat mechanics.

The Luncheon Kingdom was where it clicked with me on how to do long jump plus hat throw and dive. It's a supremely clever way to get you to figure out that advanced skill due to the purposefully timed platforms never being in line at the start.
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Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on November 30, 2017, 10:41:05 AM
Got all the actual moons and bought enough to get 999. Would not recommend either since the rewards are pretty meh.

I think I enjoyed the 3D land/world games better since Odyssey had a lot of different concepts going on, but none of them get fleshed out. I'll grab Oddessey 2 or dlc day 1 though.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 30, 2017, 05:16:54 PM
went through the game and thought about what would make good coin grinding spots
spoiler (click to show/hide)
started with the clouds one in Bowser's Castle but it was boring
so I instead got most of my coins by starting NDC Festival, tanking hits and dying in an optimal fashion on the last section which respawns all the coins, ~250 per go-around
there's also the outside of the Inverted Pyramid where you get45coins->resetwithpipe->get45coins->etc that was easy money if you don't feel up to executing jumps with more precision than a shotgun
[close]
23000 coins later and now I have gotten literally everything there is to get
all costumes
999 moons

there's not a huge reward for doing that but it's cute enough
in this moment, I am free

How do you redo the festival?
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Post by: sinxtanx on November 30, 2017, 06:44:37 PM
How do you redo the festival?

in NDC, go to the jam session room (behind Pauline), there's a guy in the top left corner you can talk to to do it again
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 01, 2017, 09:56:04 PM
Got the Mario 64 outfit.  I'll probably have Mario only wear this outfit for the rest game.

Over 300 moons.  I disagree with what someone said here earlier about the moon set up: if you want to come close to getting even half of the game's moons, you're going to have to explore just about every inch of the level.

Love this game.  There are a couple of weak levels but the rest of the game is extremely well done.  Not sure if I will get all the moons but I'll shoot for at least 500.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 02, 2017, 11:23:13 PM
Got over 500 moons.  I admit that I'm looking at guides and Youtube videos to just find ways to plow through the game.  I don't care.

Edit: I'm just cheating and playing on assist mode for all of these bullshit challenge rooms :doge  I'm at 602 moons now.
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Post by: benjipwns on December 08, 2017, 04:02:31 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LWnvV0Umvo
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Post by: kingv on December 08, 2017, 11:34:54 AM
I watched it without sound on without realizing it was dunkey.

He’s a womanizer but he’s an expert at throwing knives.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 09, 2017, 07:49:38 PM
I'm still playing this game.  At 707 moons and got all of the costumes.

After further consideration I still think that the Galaxy games are better but this is right up there with them.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 10, 2017, 01:48:25 PM
At 760 moons but I can't for the life of me do the jump off of cappy while doing the dive.  It's holding me back from winning a couple Koopa races (Luncheon Kingdom and Wooden Kingdom).  I guess it's something that requires practice but after practicing for minutes and still not getting it, I got frustrated and quit.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 10, 2017, 08:28:11 PM
Thank you, finally got the hang of it.  Up to 795 moons.  Might as well get them all at this point.
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Post by: agrajag on December 12, 2017, 12:19:03 AM
Wasn't really digging this that much until I got to New Donk City
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Post by: a slime appears on December 12, 2017, 02:36:01 PM
Galaxy was a pretty fun experience but once I beat the game I never went back to it and none of the stages had any clever layouts that stuck with me. Really fun mechanics placed in unmemorable levels that lacked character or cohesion for the most part. Beating Mario Odyssey cemented it's superiority over the Galaxy series for me with the vast amount of additional content.
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Post by: Corporal on December 12, 2017, 04:10:03 PM
I only recently understood that weird dance Major Pauline does during her sequence. Sat at home and had some retro gaming let's play videos in the background and recognised a certain tune. Man, there's some really cute fan service moments in this game. Heh.
Pauline is still creepy as fuck though, with her art style clash.

Also, as someone who went on a media blackout pre-release and who was evidently way too good at not falling off cliffs, I just got introduced to the dark wood area by a friend. Oooooooooooh. That is so neat. I had been searching for where those last few coins were... but how are you supposed to find that area on your own, dammit.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on December 12, 2017, 08:56:20 PM
I only recently understood that weird dance Major Pauline does during her sequence. Sat at home and had some retro gaming let's play videos in the background and recognised a certain tune. Man, there's some really cute fan service moments in this game. Heh.
Pauline is still creepy as fuck though, with her art style clash.

Also, as someone who went on a media blackout pre-release and who was evidently way too good at not falling off cliffs, I just got introduced to the dark wood area by a friend. Oooooooooooh. That is so neat. I had been searching for where those last few coins were... but how are you supposed to find that area on your own, dammit.

git not gud, scrub
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Post by: tiesto on December 12, 2017, 09:44:33 PM
Any tricks for the jump rope part or the secret S class race against the yetis in the ice level? Those and the Darker Side are all that remain for me... oh, and grinding for a few costumes which I probably won't bother with.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 12, 2017, 10:14:41 PM
Regarding the yeti class s race, some autists have been able to figure out an invisible wall in the snow that they're able to not trigger and do a shortcut.  For me, it was mostly just making sure that you bounce on the wooden platforms the right way to propel you ahead.  Very little margin of error.

The 100 jump rope moon is easier if you jump using the scooter.  Fuck the 100 jump moon and the 100 volleyball moon.

Also at 832 moons.  Hopefully I can get them all by the end of the week and then I can move on.
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Post by: Himu on December 12, 2017, 10:46:23 PM
what does olivia think of mario odyssey? curious on his thoughts.
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Post by: tiesto on December 12, 2017, 11:19:16 PM
I had no problem with the 100 volleyball moon. Stay in the middle, and hit the ladies every so often to slow things down.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 13, 2017, 07:28:30 AM
Odyssey is a great game, no doubt but I think that the Galaxy games are much more creative overall.  At several points during the Galaxy games I thought "holy shit" but I only thought about that here about the metro kingdom.  Looking forward to getting all of the moons in the game and hopefully there's an Odyssey 2 later on in the Switch's life.
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Post by: agrajag on December 14, 2017, 12:56:37 AM
Odyssey is a great game, no doubt but I think that the Galaxy games are much more creative overall.  At several points during the Galaxy games I thought "holy shit" but I only thought about that here about the metro kingdom.  Looking forward to getting all of the moons in the game and hopefully there's an Odyssey 2 later on in the Switch's life.

Same feeling so far. When I played Galaxy, I couldn't put it down. I only felt like that when I played the metro kingdom and subsequently the one where you fight the octopus. Also, the parade in New donk city was amazing, it was like a celebration of Mario. Doing the 2D platforming that was just like the original DK game while fireworks are going off, that was amazing.
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Post by: Corporal on December 14, 2017, 03:21:49 PM
Any tricks for the jump rope part or the secret S class race against the yetis in the ice level? Those and the Darker Side are all that remain for me... oh, and grinding for a few costumes which I probably won't bother with.
The jump rope has a glitch solution that involves throwing your cap at the bird next to the jump ropers, at the maximum distance where you can still talk to it. You talk to it just as the cap is on its way back and about to hit the bird again. When the message window disappears and the cap is just about to hit the bird, you need to immediately roll away so that the bird leaves the viewport. Then you go to the jump rope, do a ground pound boosted jump, and when you are at the highest point of the jump, you turn your camera back towards the bird. This will freeze  Mario in the air while the jump rope counter continues to increase. To get out of this state, just mash some buttons.

Note please: It takes approximately sixteen hours to get to the counter stop value of 99999.

I'd suggest you look at a few YouTube videos that show the sequence in action.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 14, 2017, 08:35:39 PM
Got the glitch to work on the fourth try.  It’s still running as I’m shitposting now.

(https://i.imgur.com/IgZGhH6l.jpg)
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 15, 2017, 11:17:30 PM
Got all the moons, got all the purple coins, got up to 999 moons, and beat the second Bowser fight.  Great game (I still think the Galaxy games are a bit better) and looking forward to moving on.

(https://i.imgur.com/p61xLT0l.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/J6TSc5Ql.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Z3tOl0Pl.jpg)
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Post by: Clockwork5 on December 17, 2017, 06:57:18 PM
Odyssey is a great game, no doubt but I think that the Galaxy games are much more creative overall.  At several points during the Galaxy games I thought "holy shit" but I only thought about that here about the metro kingdom.  Looking forward to getting all of the moons in the game and hopefully there's an Odyssey 2 later on in the Switch's life.

Same feeling so far. When I played Galaxy, I couldn't put it down. I only felt like that when I played the metro kingdom and subsequently the one where you fight the octopus. Also, the parade in New donk city was amazing, it was like a celebration of Mario. Doing the 2D platforming that was just like the original DK game while fireworks are going off, that was amazing.

That was a really cool moment that had me grinning from ear to ear. I would also agree that while Odyssey is a great game, I didn't have a whole lot of those moments. I never played the Galaxy games but I feel like I would put SM3DW slightly ahead of Odyssey.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: tiesto on December 17, 2017, 10:19:56 PM
Made it to the part in the Darker Side where you have to use the beak guy to launch yourself between the swinging Bowser platforms... it looks like I've been getting fairly close to beating it, but it's time to take a break for tonight. Also anyone have any tips for the S cup race against the polar bears?
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 17, 2017, 10:25:53 PM
64 is hard to beat because of A) Nostalgia B) how groundbreaking it was at the time.

Played a bit of Bubsy 3D with Joe and a slime appears a couple of weeks ago when we were hanging out at his house, hard to believe that actually came out a few months AFTER Super Mario 64. It really makes you appreciate how good Super Mario 64 was in terms of 3D controls, camera, and graphics were in that time period.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 17, 2017, 10:40:58 PM
For the hell of it, I was watching this speed run of Sunshine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc8BiVCfqO8

It's a much cruder, buggier version of Odyssey (the speed run takes advantage of a lot of these bugs but there's a lot more of them out there in this game) but I think if they fixed a few things, I'd be down to play a Sunshine HD.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: agrajag on December 18, 2017, 02:23:41 AM
Browser' s Castle  :lawd
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: agrajag on December 19, 2017, 12:09:52 PM
So I just completed the "main" game, and the question I am left with is... Mario a cuck?

Looks like he got friendzoned pretty hard by Peach. Browser kidnapped her, tried to force her into marriage, yet at the end she shows no preference to either Mario or Bowser, they're on equal footing as far as she's concerned. Mario got played, son.

Pauline is better for him anyway imo
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 22, 2017, 12:56:32 PM
So I just completed the "main" game, and the question I am left with is... Mario a cuck?

Looks like he got friendzoned pretty hard by Peach. Browser kidnapped her, tried to force her into marriage, yet at the end she shows no preference to either Mario or Bowser, they're on equal footing as far as she's concerned. Mario got played, son.

Pauline is better for him anyway imo

Maybe Peach didn’t appreciate seeing Mario get all up in them Bowser guts.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: a slime appears on December 23, 2017, 07:56:20 AM
Started playing it again the other day and randomly hunting for moons is pretty great. I'm thinking my top 3 still looks like this:

Mario 64 / Mario Odyssey / Mario World
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: agrajag on January 28, 2018, 10:20:59 PM
Fucking hell.

I just wasted an hour trying to get a power moon. I thought I had to use a giant piranha plant to throw a rock at the glass box to free the moon, but all I had to do was kill the three giant piranha plants.  :maf

On the whole, I still prefer the linear platforming in 3D style of the Galaxy games. I haven't played 3D World, so I hope there is a port for the Switch. I am ready for some sprawling, linear platforming levels. From point A to point B, baby!
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My favorite Odyssey world was Bowser's Castle, I really enjoyed the mechanic of flicking yourself around with the bird things
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Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on February 07, 2018, 03:49:37 PM
If Darker Side is the biggest challenge this game throws at you, I gotta say: "Damn, this game is easy."

Had to beat it for my 6 year old nephew.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: agrajag on February 07, 2018, 04:22:28 PM
There are harder moons to get in the post game than darker side imo
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 07, 2018, 11:05:11 PM
None of the moons are really difficult.  If I can get all the moons, anyone can
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Positive Touch on February 07, 2018, 11:45:34 PM
if mario is the cooler brother yet still a cuck, then what's luigi into? ball-smashing porn?
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on February 08, 2018, 11:33:01 AM
Pushing up Daisy.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 08, 2018, 11:47:51 AM
ChristianMingle.com
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Tasty on February 08, 2018, 02:00:08 PM
ChristianMingle.com

I can see Luigi being the Ned Flanders of Mario.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Positive Touch on February 08, 2018, 04:39:20 PM
at ~300 moons and i cant believe there's over 500 more to go. god damn i love this game so much.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 28, 2018, 06:01:49 PM
this game still rules
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Bebpo on November 28, 2018, 06:05:45 PM
Yep. Great Mario.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Coax on January 17, 2019, 01:35:36 AM
Haven't played the game but watching this run is a treat. The non-stop visually satisfying mechanics and skips :lawd Couch commentary and runner are a good pairing. Doesn't miss a beat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad8XZhgKWeA
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Himu on September 07, 2019, 12:35:06 PM
HEY. To the cynical fuck Cindi Mayweather who doubted this game.

Games can be good again.

:heart
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 08, 2019, 10:25:26 PM
It's AGDQ, live speedruns [to raise money for charity] is their thing.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 09, 2019, 08:42:26 AM
okay
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Beezy on March 08, 2020, 11:14:40 PM
I just started this last week despite having it for over a year. Wtf is wrong with me? This game is amazing.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 09, 2020, 09:43:25 AM
Tomorrow is MAR10.
Title: Re: Super Mario Odyssey thread of real 3D Mario is back.
Post by: Tuckers Law on March 09, 2020, 04:38:05 PM
Every day is MAR10 if you're a Nintendie
:larry

You’re not wrong, here.