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Title: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on August 16, 2017, 04:02:55 AM
So yeah, I like watches, they're probably the only male jewelry i find appealing. Things are going fine enough that I may consider saving a bit of money to indulge in buying one in a few months, something in a very moderate price bracket though (lol).
My parents have been kind enough to gift me a Sinn Automatic Chronograph several years ago. Sinn is a Frankfurt maker with prices a notch below the racket that is Swiss watchmaking, and I like the "Finanz" line they have, though it's probably not what I'll aim for if possible this time round.

I like both clean & classic or "sporty" / engineer / pilot type watches, metal bracelets, having the date at a minimum is a must and if possible a chronograph. I'm not particular about case size (not ridiculously huge is my criteria I guess).

I'm currently looking into Seiko (has a nice quartz clean watch from them beforehand, also they have a store in Paris so it's easy to go see and try) and Citizen for either a classy quartz (solar powered and with GPS time adjustement) or an elegant automatic but I'm curious if anyone here has any opinions on the matter. I have a passing familiarity with some of the more obscure German makers who always have excellent clean designs but I should take a new look at that.

Please begin shitposting.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Momo on August 16, 2017, 05:49:27 AM
Only a weirdo or someone who cares too much about a curated appearance wears a watch in 2017
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Post by: Rufus on August 16, 2017, 08:23:06 AM
Don't care about them as status symbols or man toys, but I can appreciate the craftsmanship. I'd only wear cheap watches though, because poor people's paranoia.

Check out this community thread. OnkelC is German, so he likely has opinions on German brands as well.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=266353
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 16, 2017, 08:24:12 AM
I haven't worn a watch since my teens which is like in the mid 90's, I  didn't like how they got stuck on sleeves and how your hand would sweat under them. Also phones came out and you had the time on you all the time (late 90's).

Lately I've entertained the idea of having a watch as a pointless accessory (because I really ran out of things I would like I guess and watches do look nice) , but I always come back to how pointless it is for anything but looks and how I would find it annoying having it on my hand.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Valkyrie on August 16, 2017, 08:31:38 AM
Watches are either cool or super dorky.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Mupepe on August 16, 2017, 08:53:57 AM
Yeah, like those calculator watches are super fucking cool.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: nudemacusers on August 16, 2017, 10:34:53 AM
I like my seiko sarb 33  :-[

(http://i.imgur.com/zD8BkL8.jpg)
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Huff on August 16, 2017, 11:03:45 AM
I rock an Apple Watch, although I don't consider it super useful outside of #firstworldproblems seeing who is texting/calling/emailing without pulling your phone out
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 16, 2017, 11:53:45 AM
I used to wear a watch all the time, but after getting a smart phone that I carry with me all the time I've stopped wearing watches entirely.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Bebpo on August 16, 2017, 12:09:00 PM
Only a weirdo or someone who cares too much about a curated appearance wears a watch in 2017

I wear a watch  :iface
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: toku on August 16, 2017, 12:12:54 PM
watches are cool, been meaning to get another one
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on August 16, 2017, 04:22:03 PM
I used to wear a watch all the time, but after getting a smart phone that I carry with me all the time I've stopped wearing watches entirely.

For what it's worth, checking time on a watch is marginally easier and more natural for me than having to reach for the phone, especially while walking.

Yeah, like those calculator watches are super fucking cool.

Joking aside they're the actual choice if you pretend your watch is an actual tool. Some LCD Casios have a ridiculous amount of features.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: toku on August 16, 2017, 05:20:24 PM
pet peeve of mine? i don't like seeing watches worn on the right hand
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 16, 2017, 05:21:31 PM
pet peeve of mine? i don't like seeing watches worn on the right hand

I will not stand for this hatred and bigotry towards left-handers! :maf
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Bebpo on August 16, 2017, 05:30:18 PM
pet peeve of mine? i don't like seeing watches worn on the right hand

I wear a watch on my right hand.  :iface
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Raist on August 16, 2017, 06:29:35 PM
Check Festina. They make quality stuff, and are overall rather affordable.




pet peeve of mine? i don't like seeing watches worn on the right hand



Ha. Typical case of boiling jealousy towards the Lefty master race :snob
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: toku on August 16, 2017, 06:46:01 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/T7Mns4D.gif)
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: chronovore on August 16, 2017, 07:42:26 PM
I've got a handsome Tag Heuer from my bro-in-law which has held up great. It was a bitch to replace the batteries, and the manufacturer cost was $150 each time until last year. I sent it in and they wanted $800 or so, about half the original purchase price. Now I've doomed the damned watch to oblivion by having its battery replaced by a random nearby kiosk for $10.

Yeah, like those calculator watches are super fucking cool.
:heartbeat
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: nudemacusers on August 16, 2017, 07:50:31 PM
A watch is essential for traveling, festivals, theme parks or places where your phone could easily die over the course of a day.
Also in SCIFs where electronics are no nos   :american
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on August 17, 2017, 05:00:34 AM
Didn't think of Festina, I'll take a look. Though on first glance the designs they put on the front veers into slightly gaudy (not unlike Citizen).

Dream watch is an IWC Portuguese but I'll never could afford that in a million years.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Momo on August 17, 2017, 05:10:41 AM
Only a weirdo or someone who cares too much about a curated appearance wears a watch in 2017

I wear a watch  :iface
So which one are you?  :drake
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: tiesto on August 17, 2017, 09:33:34 AM
I'm the only Italian who hates to wear jewelry (ocd keeps making me worried I'd lose it) so I don't wear one, but my grandfather willed me a gold Tag Heuer worth a few grand.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Brehvolution on August 17, 2017, 09:50:56 AM
I love my series 2 Apple watch (https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-watch/apple-watch/silver-stainless-steel-stainless-steel-milanese-loop?preSelect=false&product=MNP62LL/A&step=detail#). With the Sapphire Crystal face who's toughness is only second to diamond and it being waterproof makes it's almost indestructible. I consider it a piece of jewelry.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Himu on August 17, 2017, 10:07:16 AM
Only a weirdo or someone who cares too much about a curated appearance wears a watch in 2017

Fun fact, watches will help you land a job. Makes you seem more professional.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Mr. Nobody on August 17, 2017, 12:23:42 PM
I've got 2 watches I plan to pass on to my sons  :heart
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Post by: toku on August 17, 2017, 12:46:51 PM
I've got 2 watches I plan to pass on to my sons  :heart

 :'(
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 17, 2017, 01:04:10 PM
idea of a smart watch irks me, even more distractions
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Momo on August 17, 2017, 01:29:41 PM
Only a weirdo or someone who cares too much about a curated appearance wears a watch in 2017

Fun fact, watches will help you land a job. Makes you seem more professional.
I'm a developer, the closer i resemble a bearded forest troll, the more likely I am to be accepted by one of my own.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: chronovore on August 17, 2017, 09:18:23 PM
I've got 2 watches I plan to pass on to my sons  :heart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFtHjV4c4uw
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on November 28, 2017, 10:33:55 AM
So I went to try the Seiko Astron Chronograph. The current Astron is solar powered and connect to satellites once a day to give perfectly accurate time and change to the time zone you're in. Having exact time is appealing (I try to be a punctual person in general) but I don't travel nearly enough (and certainly not far enough) to pretend it's a big boon.

Anyway the watch is veering on the large size and the Chronograph has a grievous flaw : Some (all ?) of the buttons are in plastic or some such.
:kobeyuck
Not pleasing to the eye, the touch and downright cheap (the base model is 1800€, the Chronograph is 2400€, it's the most expensive line bar the Grand Seiko manufacture). I'll probably go check if the base model (with only the date) has the same issue. I'll probably try the diving watches too for something a little more reasonable. Maybe ask to wear a Grand Seiko to live the dream too (6000+ € so... Yeah. I'm doing good with work, but not that good. Also at that price you can start considering some Swiss brands).

I'm a big fan of Seiko design, overall it's clean and the watches have an excellent finish. The Grand Seiko base automatic model is pretty much my ideal (classic and clean).

Anyway first order of business is probably to change the glass on my current watch anyway. I like to daydream but I'll probably have to save up a few more months at best before I can just waste money on jewelry :lol
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on November 28, 2017, 11:36:49 AM
I checked and the Astron is 44,8mm diameter, so its indeed a tad large (my Sinn is 41mm or so and it's a good size for me give it take 1mm).

My Sinn is a 103 ST, if you're curious. Might take shitty pic if I fix it.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on November 28, 2017, 12:53:33 PM
Don't care about them as status symbols or man toys, but I can appreciate the craftsmanship. I'd only wear cheap watches though, because poor people's paranoia.

Check out this community thread. OnkelC is German, so he likely has opinions on German brands as well.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=266353

Very late reply but thanks for the link though really you've read a watch thread on the Internet you kinda read them all (unless you have pointed questions to ask about a model) though it did prompt me to take another look at a couple of brands (Orient, Oris, Russian makers) I didn't check in a while whose designs are close to what I look for. I did learn however that Rolex from the 60-70's used a radioactive element for the coating enabling phosporoscence of the hands and dials for night legibility and it might possibly be harmful if you open the watch, which was a cool factoid.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Raist on November 28, 2017, 05:58:35 PM
How about this then:

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(https://www.watch.co.uk/pictures/flik-flak-howli-owli-fbnp047-6.jpg)
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Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on November 30, 2017, 11:16:51 AM
So I went and tried a couple of models at Seiko.

The simpler Astron (3 hands plus date) doesn't have the issues with dial size or unpleasant buttons I found with the Chronograph. Tried the black with gold buttons one. A bit too shiny (with the solar panel dial, I guess it is to be expected) and still way too expensive for me. Plus it's a quartz and even if solar powered, I don't like having a battery and would rather get a purely mechanical watch at the expense of precision.

I thus had a look at one of the diving automatic watches ("Samurai" 51K1 here (https://monochrome-watches.com/seiko-prospex-samurai-2017-collection-srpb49k1-srpb51k1-srpb53k1-srpb55k1-review-price/)) and I think I found my match. Price is much more reasonable (sub 500) and I can indulge without feeling guilty. I fancy getting something robust because I'm not exactly the most careful guy and I often bump my Sinn into walls  :doge . The sport style is also much more in line with my terrible cave dwelling looks and the seller brought up with tact I hadn't the thinnest of wrists (or anything, really) so a blocky watch was a good fit for me. Accuracy is a tad loose (-35/+45 seconds a day) but it's expected at this price range for this automatic type.

They have a fancier model which is a redesign if the first Seiko diving watch (it's a well regarded line) but honestly it's hard to justify shelling twice the price for minute design details and Sapphire glass.

So after having the pilot and diving ones, next step will be to save for something more formal for my forties.
:brazilcry
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Huff on December 01, 2017, 12:12:34 AM
So I've got a few watches on the cheaper side and wearing a watch has grown on me the past year

but i feel like i can't really get into them for a couple years and most of my 6 figure loans are paid off
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on June 07, 2018, 05:25:58 PM
So Kara post in that other topic reminded me I had to take a pic of my Seiko Samurai I mentioned two posts ago.

(https://i.imgur.com/Qg0u7rE.jpg)

It's sturdy (not a scratch despite not being careful) and while the movement is not the best it's still fairly accurate over several weeks most times.

Next buy, if ever possible, will be an Astron (three hands and date, the other models are too gaudy) or a Grand Seiko. Hopefully if work is good in the next few years.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: shosta on June 07, 2018, 06:39:22 PM
This is a vanity item I don't quite understand but as someone who values his appearance, I can sympathize. More power to the people who enjoy a good watch.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 07, 2018, 06:52:54 PM
I own an automatic Invicta. Theres something about a well crafted watch, its weight, and the way it looks on you that inspires confidence.

(https://abload.de/img/_dsc2223-16ps3j.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=_dsc2223-16ps3j.jpg)

I want to get a nice one with a silver housing and band with a blue face. Either a Seiko or Citizens.

I'm a fan of larger faces. Fuck being understated. But not too big, lets not get crazy now.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Kara on June 07, 2018, 10:08:16 PM
So Kara post in that other topic reminded me I had to take a pic of my Seiko Samurai I mentioned two posts ago.

(https://i.imgur.com/Qg0u7rE.jpg)

It's sturdy (not a scratch despite not being careful) and while the movement is not the best it's still fairly accurate over several weeks most times.

Next buy, if ever possible, will be an Astron (three hands and date, the other models are too gaudy) or a Grand Seiko. Hopefully if work is good in the next few years.

Nice watch.

The movement might not be the best, but iirc its origins are not that humble, it's derived from a pricier model. The only other watch out there at that style and price that's worth considering instead is the Orient Mako / Ray and Orient develops movements at a glacial pace (their 46 movement is from 1970, albeit quite decent) so you're not really missing out, technically speaking.

I've been looking at Grand Seiko lately because it fulfills my need for a "luxury" watch that clients won't notice* but the brand #aesthetic doesn't do much for me and their complications tend to be stuff like chronograph or GMT, neither of which make my heart flutter.

*Since people who don't know me very well entrust me with their money I try to avoid very obvious displays of conspicuous consumption which makes things like watches an awkward proposition. Perhaps Tudor has another target demographic besides "Midwestern Lutherans who can afford a Rolex but think they're too ostentatious" . . .
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Kara on June 07, 2018, 11:23:10 PM
This is a vanity item I don't quite understand but as someone who values his appearance, I can sympathize. More power to the people who enjoy a good watch.

I hear a lot of men rationalizing their purchase by saying that a nice watch is something that will outlive them and can be passed along to their sons, grandsons, et cetera. Does that really apply to a cynical brand watch with an ETA 28XX? Probably not, but my great grandfather bought a Rolex when he #MadeIt in America and it got passed down to my grandfather and then to my father (and will probably end up with one of my cousins or something when he kicks the bucket) and that's pretty cool in a tangible history sort of way.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on June 08, 2018, 03:18:13 AM
What sort of complications do you like ? I love moon phases and all but they're insanely expensive, not super useful and moreover it's hard to find a model both having those and staying sober in style...

The Sinn Finanz Line is in the same price bracket as a Grand Seiko (or cheaper) but it's also chronographs or displaying a couple of time zones. And it's all ETA 28 or unoriginal movements.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on June 08, 2018, 06:55:31 AM
Oh those Orient lunar watches are pretty nice for the price. It's a bit of a pain to find a retailer here but should be doable. Maybe next year for maybe something less sporty.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Kara on June 09, 2018, 04:05:24 AM
The FAK00001Y0 (https://www.orientwatchusa.com/shop/mens-watches/fak00001y0/) is a watch I'd wear if I was willing to be a hypocrite and buy leather after I stopped eating meat. The sun and moon feature is something I find useful since there are days I spend so long in a room without windows that I forget what time of day it is.

Anyway, complications that I like, cost being no object: power reserve (I don't like wearing a watch every day and I don't like setting a watch), perpetual calendar (I don't like setting a watch), moonphase (I'm actually a werewolf), jumping hour (they can be easier to read).

As you point out some of these can make a watch really pricey, but power reserve and moonphase are quite doable with ETA / Sellita parts on the cheaper end (https://frederiqueconstant.com/watch-finder/classics/classics-auto-moonphase-fc-330mc4p6b/) of the (admittedly absurd) scale. I agree moonphase can get a little loud, but it doesn't have to be that way (https://www.glashuette-original.com/collection/senator/senator-panorama-date-moon-phase/100-04-32-12-14) and on a relatively plain design (https://www.meistersinger.com/en/collection/single-hand-watches/lunascope/infos/Clocks.html) it even saves the day. (I think watches might be the only field where I don't find the German players incredibly dull and uninteresting, probably because they don't have decades of brand inertia to coast on.)

Thanks for the Sinn recommendation. They're a little too instrument-y for my taste, but I've heard they're more high effort in construction than you might think if you just looked at the movement supplier.

For the American'ts out there, this is a regular kind of deal but still quite good nonetheless: https://www.orientwatchusa.com/skip-tie-save-fathers-day-sale/
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on June 09, 2018, 04:54:22 AM
Oh I never cared for power reserve but I'm an every day wearer, I could see the use.
Perpetual calendar is cool.

Sinn, in my experience, are well made but as you mentioned movements I thought better to mention it upfront.

If you don't like setting watches there's radio / GPS watches but obviously it's quartz  :doge (though solar powered and AFAICT better battery management) and it tends to lean on sporty case design.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: nudemacusers on June 09, 2018, 06:03:49 AM
I have no idea why but the only baller watches i've ever lusted for were grand seikos. something about them stroke my closeted weeb nub and also my desire to not own a widely-known 'status symbol'. i don't want randos commenting on my veblen goods.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on June 09, 2018, 06:12:29 AM
Yeah I'm the same. It's very, very snob, so much so because it's understated. Still it's probably among the best value you'll get at that price.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: nudemacusers on June 09, 2018, 06:18:55 AM
also have no particular interest in diving watches; seem like overkil for everyday use and mostly for guys who are in total denial that the most excitement their 'functional' accessory will see is the vip room of a strip club.  :doge
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: arrow on June 09, 2018, 06:31:06 AM
I also been looking at watches recently (my Seiko Orange Monster automatic movement is starting to randomly stick, not winding anymore, fantastic watch otherwise, must get it fixed).

I like the Astron, the Omega Seamaster,  and some of the Tag Heuers.

I'll probably end up with an Astron if I find one I like, I really like my Seiko.

I also have a Tag Heuer Connected (the original one), very useful for work as I'm horrifically forgetful of meetings and appointments, and end up walking the floor a lot, so a vibrating wrist really keeps me punctual. My Orange Monster has served me extremely well tho, love it, and I believe its becoming a bit of a collectors item now as well.

Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: arrow on June 09, 2018, 06:33:51 AM
also have no particular interest in diving watches; seem like overkil for everyday use and mostly for guys who are in total denial that the most excitement their 'functional' accessory will see is the vip room of a strip club.  :doge

Well, my diving watch has never gone scuba diving, but it has survived a LOT of knocks and bumps (well, until recently anyway). For instance, it was fine after my last bike fall (my elbow broke, but not the watch). For me its more about the ability to endure day to day crap than actual diving.
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Post by: nudemacusers on June 09, 2018, 06:39:46 AM
fair
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: arrow on June 09, 2018, 07:36:10 AM
I own an automatic Invicta. Theres something about a well crafted watch, its weight, and the way it looks on you that inspires confidence.

(https://abload.de/img/_dsc2223-16ps3j.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=_dsc2223-16ps3j.jpg)

I want to get a nice one with a silver housing and band with a blue face. Either a Seiko or Citizens.

I'm a fan of larger faces. Fuck being understated. But not too big, lets not get crazy now.

Which Invicta is that? Looks badass....
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on June 09, 2018, 08:16:00 AM
also have no particular interest in diving watches; seem like overkil for everyday use and mostly for guys who are in total denial that the most excitement their 'functional' accessory will see is the vip room of a strip club.  :doge

Well, my diving watch has never gone scuba diving, but it has survived a LOT of knocks and bumps (well, until recently anyway). For instance, it was fine after my last bike fall (my elbow broke, but not the watch). For me its more about the ability to endure day to day crap than actual diving.

I'll echo the sentiment. The durability is a huge plus. Flat glass buried under a millimeter of casing helps a lot. I guess it's cool I can wear it at the beach whenever I go swim annually. But it's definitely become a statement of style. "Sport" is the standard nowadays, isn't it ? Unless you have to dress up for work or you have a membership in a yacht club and a watch for every occasion.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Kara on June 09, 2018, 04:18:56 PM
also have no particular interest in diving watches; seem like overkil for everyday use and mostly for guys who are in total denial that the most excitement their 'functional' accessory will see is the vip room of a strip club.  :doge

I know you conceded your point but: If you really want to think it out wristwatches only became acceptable to wear in polite society after colonial and imperialist wars (World War I, in particular) demonstrated their functional superiority over the pocket watch. That superiority was overkill for desk jockeys then as much as it is today, and there's been a general retreat from the wristwatch as a functional item with the advent of the mobile phone (and smart phone in particular) because of that. To some extent wearing a wristwatch is, and always has been, fronting.

Diving is computerized now from my understanding; so, much like the automatic watch itself after the advent of quartz, diver's watches are an exercise in l'art pour l'art. #meta

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I do find them to be too traditionally masculine to wear myself, but I'm an effete werewolf who can't muster up the nerve to just wear a Cartier.
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Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 09, 2018, 06:13:57 PM
I own an automatic Invicta. Theres something about a well crafted watch, its weight, and the way it looks on you that inspires confidence.

(https://abload.de/img/_dsc2223-16ps3j.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=_dsc2223-16ps3j.jpg)

I want to get a nice one with a silver housing and band with a blue face. Either a Seiko or Citizens.

I'm a fan of larger faces. Fuck being understated. But not too big, lets not get crazy now.

Which Invicta is that? Looks badass....

Its a 22580

https://www.invictawatch.com/watches/detail/22580-

It came with a leather band but i switched out for a metal one. The back is also open

Quote

(https://abload.de/img/_dsc2230-171qe7.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=_dsc2230-171qe7.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/_dsc2231mzotr.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=_dsc2231mzotr.jpg)
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Post by: arrow on June 10, 2018, 04:31:47 AM
Hmm, nice :)
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Crash Dummy on June 10, 2018, 05:38:58 AM
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I do find them to be too traditionally masculine to wear myself, but I'm an effete werewolf who can't muster up the nerve to just wear a Cartier.
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i can't muster up the disposable income  :(
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Kara on June 12, 2018, 12:39:41 AM
Well, your job takes you to places that probably shouldn't exist like Dubai and my job takes me to places that probably shouldn't exist like Sacramento.

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BTW, this channel is :noah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eMTWX07eY4

:whew



Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Kara on July 03, 2018, 10:47:53 PM
:whew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqSg4owRcV0

Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Crash Dummy on July 04, 2018, 07:19:13 AM
fuck me, so a rolex day date ii with platinum arabic numbers and date is AED 241,000 secondhand (just over $65.6k)  :o
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: arrow on July 04, 2018, 07:05:33 PM
See, I really really just don't get the whole Rolex thing. They're overpriced, and just so... boring looking? Plus, everyone either has one or wants one. Seems like the Jack Daniels of watches to me.

Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Crash Dummy on July 05, 2018, 03:43:27 AM
oh i was just looking at that specific model on kara's recommendation; in reality due to my thin wrists if i ever upgrade from my uniform wares to a luxury watch my choices are limited to certain cartier/jlc/nomos dress watches
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: SmokyDave on July 05, 2018, 04:53:30 AM
I’ve always loved watches, but mine are rather modest. I wear a Fitbit most of the time anyway. I do have a ‘nice’ Casio Red Bull jobbie, but it’s nice in the way that I like it, it’s not a ‘proper’ watch. I also own one of those humongous Metal Gear Solid 4 watches that were released in the UK. It’s no looker, but I scored it cheap so no biggie. I probably have a couple of Animal watches lying around from my xtreme teens too.

At some point I’d love to buy a truly nice motorsport themed watch, but any frivolous spending over a few hundred quid and I’m buying scale models instead. Can’t support two high-end passions :(

Some gorgeous watches in here though. Mmm hmm.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Kara on July 06, 2018, 11:27:24 PM
See, I really really just don't get the whole Rolex thing. They're overpriced, and just so... boring looking? Plus, everyone either has one or wants one. Seems like the Jack Daniels of watches to me.

There's overpriced (virtually all luxury watches) and then there's worthless (Jack Daniels). :)

If anyone is interested in why the prices are quite strange these days, here's a recent article about what's happened in the industry over the last ~20 years.

https://www.ablogtowatch.com/why-some-watches-rolex-patek-philippe-impossible-retail/
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: arrow on July 09, 2018, 03:28:15 PM
See, I really really just don't get the whole Rolex thing. They're overpriced, and just so... boring looking? Plus, everyone either has one or wants one. Seems like the Jack Daniels of watches to me.

There's overpriced (virtually all luxury watches) and then there's worthless (Jack Daniels). :)

If anyone is interested in why the prices are quite strange these days, here's a recent article about what's happened in the industry over the last ~20 years.

https://www.ablogtowatch.com/why-some-watches-rolex-patek-philippe-impossible-retail/

I'm probably not expressing myself properly with the comparison :) I see a parallel with Rolex being a mainstream desirable item in the same way that Jack Daniels is a mainstream desirable bourbon...

I don't doubt the quality of Rolex tho, more that it's just become so ordinary to want one, if that makes sense.

That article is pretty interesting. Actually the artificial scarcity has a parallel in the high end collectible cars market too: Ferrari won't sell you some of their more exclusive vehicles unless you have a good track record in buying their previous cars... But Ferrari do it because it's always been their ethos to limit the number of vehicles produced.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Kara on July 20, 2018, 12:14:23 AM
Usually I am sour on microbrands, and this one is apparently rehabbing ancient Swiss movements which is another strike, and they're going to run small as a result of that (strike 3?), but I really like the look of these. :whew

https://wornandwound.com/introducing-semper-adhuc-a-young-french-brand-making-old-new-again/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BlDaUGWHPax/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BlGI2gWn_Vk/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BlIsi_4Hmrv/

Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Kara on July 20, 2018, 11:16:37 PM
:whew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmKAMvwB4yc
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: BisMarckie on July 20, 2018, 11:42:18 PM
I never realized that there is a thread for watch aficionados on here. :hyper

I had a decent collection of watches (around 20 or so) but when the baby was underway and I decided to take a semi-sabbatical I sold all but 3 to have some money to fall back on.

I didn't have any crazy expensive watches though. Mostly Seiko, Tag Heuer and 2 Omega watches I got relatively cheap. I just couldn't sell my most valuable one though which is a Breitling Cockpit which my late grandfather gave me for my graduation.

My other ones are a Tissot V8 and an Omega Seamaster.

One day I will start collecting again and then I'll hopefully be able to afford a second Breitling watch.  :doge
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: arrow on July 22, 2018, 12:44:35 PM
So a friend of mine got a Hamilton Khaki. Awesome-looking vintage style field watch. I gave up my quest for the perfect Astron (although, damn that Marine Master limited edition Astron NEARLY had me), couldn't buy a Hamilton since he already did, and caved for one of these instead.

(https://i.imgur.com/CbIBWdR.jpg)

Seiko SARB017, the Seiko Alpinist.

Theres a lot of people who like this watch, and when it first arrived, I was kind of "well, it's ok I guess...". But its really grown on me in the last 2 weeks or so.

Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Kara on October 11, 2018, 12:58:43 PM
https://www.grand-seiko.com/us-en/news/pressrelease/20181009/

That dial on SBGA387. :whew
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: BlueTsunami on October 11, 2018, 06:56:09 PM
Powder blue and silver  :dsp
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: nudemacusers on October 11, 2018, 07:31:27 PM
Grand Seiko :lawd
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Mr. Nobody on October 11, 2018, 11:00:06 PM
I am fucking in here  :whoo
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Aran on October 11, 2018, 11:19:26 PM
I love my smartwatch, Galaxy Gear S3 Frontier all day
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Kara on October 12, 2018, 03:23:20 AM
Grand Seiko :lawd

If you like the snowflake #aesthetic (and who doesn't, really) there's a vanilla Seiko they sell in the Japanese domestic market with it too (https://www.seiko-watch.co.jp/collections/en/presage/SARX055) that you can find through importers without a lot of hassle.

Unfortunately the case is titanium which means it's a $1,200 watch with a $500 watch movement in it but I guess that rounds out the Grand Seiko homage.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Kara on January 25, 2019, 01:27:58 AM
Think I'm going to buy a very expensive watch with an ETA 2824 in it. :brazilcry
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Crash Dummy on January 25, 2019, 06:29:30 AM
if it makes you feel better that might be the push i need to buy something nice, i almost an apple watch in duty free in a moment of madness
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Kara on January 26, 2019, 03:22:34 AM
The Apple Watch made A Blog to Watch's favorite watches we added to our collection in 2018 (https://www.ablogtowatch.com/ablogtowatch-editors-favorite-watches-collections-2018/), you should do it!

As for me I'm torn between the Tudor Black Bay 36 and the Cartier Tank Solo XL.

The Black Bay 36 is a dressy tool watch which is something I would appreciate (I think the only watch I own with 100 meters or more of water resistance is an ancient Citizen Eco Drive I got for my high school graduation) and Tudor purportedly regulates their ETA movements to chronometer accuracy without getting them certified. Unfortunately I think it's too small for me and the same model in size 41 looks quite hideous in comparison.

The Tank Solo XL is just classic, thin (I don't like owning watches that don't fit under a sleeve which probably explains the water resistance issue I mentioned earlier), and I'd never have to worry about trying hard to dress it up like I would with the Black Bay 36. Plus--I know this is a stupid reason-- imo watches from jewelers attract more positive attention from women than those from watch dork brands and I'm an eligible bachelor. Unfortunately there is no way clients wouldn't notice it as a display of wealth and I don't think it looks good with short sleeves (I don't wear a suit to every client every day). It'd also be another freaking watch with a date window. The Santos would probably be a better fit for my lifestyle / wardrobe but it's also double the price.

The decision is going to have to wait until after tax season because I need to go try on a Black Bay 36 to see if it's too small for me and if it is then I need to try on the 41 to see if it looks as bad as the photos on their website make it look.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on June 13, 2019, 09:48:14 AM
I had some time to kill at a Seiko shop today... I really want to like the Astron, the gadgetry is kinda cool and has some practicality but it's the third time I try one and it doesn't do it for me aesthetics-wise.

I tried diving watches too, some with a slightly more ornate dial, but it's already what I wear currently and I have minor gripes with every model (the font on the number of the outer rings or how the marking on the dial look) and since it's both a futile and costly object to begin with, might as well be picky otherwise what's the point ?

They had some promising diving models (the Prospex LX 300m line, especially good looking in black) but those are really out of my means (2500€ or more for the cheapest one).
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Kara on June 13, 2019, 11:32:20 AM
The LX is basically a Grand Seiko but it's branded Prospex too. I'm all for buying stuff that only appeals to enthusiasts but come on...

The Astron reminds me of Citizen's Nighthawk in that it's really impressive from a technical standpoint but utterly hideous. I know pilots love the Nighthawk (which is funny considering how many GMT automatic watches market as a pilot's watch) so I suppose Seiko has an Astron market too somewhere.

I didn't get the Tank or the Black Bay 36. I could never get a straight answer about the movement in the Tank (they've started using in-house movements in it I've read) and it didn't look good with short sleeves on me. The Black Bay was likely until I went to a dealer that had the North Flag on discount and then I talked myself out of that too. Bore alum The Business was right to ask if I've ever done anything I really wanted to. :'(

Been looking at MAT watches (http://www.matwatches.com/en/) lately, VK. Do you know anything about them? I guess they're troop watches in la république which is a major negative to me. I like that gilt California dial watch a lot, though...
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on June 14, 2019, 04:40:28 AM
Not familiar with MAT but as you guessed they have some official contracts with armed forces, special forces, Légion, police, firemen (Paris and some other cities fire department is handled by Sapeurs and the army), civil defense, etc... First thing I thought with the name is about the MAT prefix for the official designation of some French small arms (those designed in the Manufacture d'Armes de Tulle), I'd imagine it's intentional. Can't quite find the founding date but they're roughly 20 years old and as you probably know it's all on the base of some well-treaded and reliable Swiss movements. As I'm sure you noticed some model have the crown on the left.

The Tudor Black Bay 41 looks pretty good, especially that red-black-gold model. for a diving watch would be a good size for me I think (the Seiko I have is 44 or 45 IIRC) but it's too pricey for my budget. The 36 is more apt to dress up obviously.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on June 14, 2019, 07:07:23 AM
I looked again on Orient and the Mako III looks nice in Green and Burgundy...

https://www.orient-watch.com/Collections/ORIENT/Sports/ORIENT%3A-Mechanical-Sports-Watch/p/RA-AA0003R (https://www.orient-watch.com/Collections/ORIENT/Sports/ORIENT%3A-Mechanical-Sports-Watch/p/RA-AA0003R)

I might go for that or the latest Orient Sun & Moon for something different instead of another diver's...

Unfortunately will have to be online. It's less painful to not try them because they're relatively cheap but still.

Edit : Citizen has some official Disney and Marvel branded watches :hhh

I'm looking at their perpetual calendar watches, Orient has one too IIRC.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on June 14, 2019, 11:49:44 AM
https://www.citizenwatch.com/us/en/product/AW1367-05W.html?cgid=marvel (https://www.citizenwatch.com/us/en/product/AW1367-05W.html?cgid=marvel)

:kobeyuck
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on June 14, 2019, 02:07:46 PM
Vostok Europe (no relation to Vostok apparently, it's a Lithuanian brand) or when the Soviet fetish gets too strong... But I kinda like the overall design and it's all (or mostly) Seiko or japanese movements. I wouldn't mind their perpetual calendar model :

https://www.vostok-europe.com/ym86-565b288/ (https://www.vostok-europe.com/ym86-565b288/)

The Lunokhod line has some nice models too.

Too bulky for me I suspect.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on June 14, 2019, 03:58:57 PM
Anyone with an opinion on Alpina watches ? The design is what I like (on the Alpiner 4, Seastrong Heritage or Diver 300), sporty and sober -many models don't have number markings or very small numbers on the dial-. It's right in my upper bracket on budget but I'm sure I could find somewhere to try one in Paris.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: BisMarckie on June 14, 2019, 05:14:59 PM
I have no experience with Alpina, but Tissot is in the same price range and I like the one I have better than my more expensive watches. Maybe have a look :yeshrug
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on June 15, 2019, 12:45:03 PM
I have no experience with Alpina, but Tissot is in the same price range and I like the one I have better than my more expensive watches. Maybe have a look :yeshrug

I'm not gonna lie, I did check Tissot a couple of time just for because of the Tour de France sponsorship but it doesn't do it for me.

Really it's all fantasy shipping now but I might probably just settle on an Orient or a Seiko.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Kara on June 15, 2019, 02:23:31 PM
Alpina are fine enough watches, I've never heard someone complain about having one. On the flipside I've never heard anyone be out and out in love with one either. They're owned by Frederique Constant which is owned by Citizen so that's a weird thing but whatever. (Speaking of Citizen, it's hilarious that the Marvel Eco-Drive with mineral crystal VK linked costs about the same as a Promaster Tough which is all the watch you'll need to survive climate cataclysm.)

I sold / gave away all the watches I had that I didn't have a sentimental reason for keeping. (This was to get me to buy the Tank or North Flag, lol whoops.) That means I've been wearing my Orient a lot. They're fine watches but are a bit unstuck in time. Mine has a power reserve but can't hack or handwind, for example. Their movements are not good as actual time keeping devices, either. Great cost / value ratio though (straps and bracelets aside). Probably a bit hard on mine because it was an anniversary gift from a failed relationship, tbh.

If you want something from a major brand I do kind of miss my Hamilton Intra-Matic Auto 38mm. (I don't miss it being 2 hands instead of 3 though.) MSRP is high on that watch but gray market prices are a lot lower and buying an ETA 2892-2 watch on the gray market is nbd. Plus an ETA movement is in-house for a Hamilton. :troll:

I'd also rec some of the nicer microbrand stuff that's out there. The Baltic Aquascaphe (https://baltic-watches.com/en/aquascaphes/aquascaphe) is adjacent to your Seiko, VK, but you're still looking at dive watches. Martenero makes some fun stuff (https://martenero.com/collections/watches) that's less beholden to the #aesthetic conservatism of mechanical watches. The new Miyota 90XX movements have really opened the floodgates for microbrands and everything I've heard about them is good.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on June 15, 2019, 02:51:36 PM
That Baltic looks great in blue.  :obama
No date though :fbm
One reason I like the Orient divers are the day complication.
The Sun & Moon 3 and "Mako III" (Not sure if that's the official designation) do have the stop-second and manual windings now.
For the time keeping itself frankly I'm not certain anything at that price range in automatic might exist while also catering to my tastes.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on June 16, 2019, 07:52:17 AM
Another minimalist diving watch (using a Seiko movement, essentially the same than in my Samurai if I'm not mistaken) otherwise has Sinn U1 vibes.

https://www.unimaticwatches.com/ (https://www.unimaticwatches.com/)

Not bad but too minimalist for me (Some of the earlier models had dates and more markings but I guess it's basically all short run production). I guess the latest round of e-window licking is helping me refine what I want in a watch. And really I'm a big milquetoast giant dad, I don't think microbrands will cut it for me. Classic sporty designs, minimalist but not too much with a dash of modernity and angularity, historic brands, in house movement, Japanese reliability and affordability as a statement over a more expensive watch (I'd rather have a bigger budget and not settle on "bottom range" Swiss offering if I had to), metal strap. I wouldn't mind more exotic material than steel (titanium, ceramic the Rado Captain Cook) but I haven't seen anything interesting at my price points.

I'll probably just cut the Gordian knot by just buying one, either a Mako III (Red or green dial) for the additional day complication or the Ray Raven II for that blackened steel fetish (no Sapphire though). It's inexpensive enough that I could probably soon follow up with a Sun & Moon or an Esteem for a dress watch if I want it.

If I ever have 4000€ to burn without too much care, I'll probably have a much better choice of options. Until then let's just virtue signal some modesty.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on June 17, 2019, 11:22:35 AM
I caved and still managed to change my mind  :doge but doing some research on those Orient divers there was a little too much small bothers (hollowed out links, hand shapes, somewhat cheap clasp compared to the watch, mineral glass... depending on the model) and it would have been a step down in quality from my Seiko Samurai for not much variety.

Waiting on a Orient Star Retrograde (in line with my political leanings !) :
https://www.ablogtowatch.com/orient-star-de0002b-retrograde-watch-review/ (https://www.ablogtowatch.com/orient-star-de0002b-retrograde-watch-review/)

That caught my eye on a site that have some Orient watches. That's kind of a bold leap for me (it might be a little too classy for my clothes...) but everyone seems to say that the build quality and finishing is on par with the style and dial and it's a bargain (sorta). I like the cleanliness, absence of numeral markers (for h/m), the balance (one big pet peeve of mine is dial markers cut off, typically like the 3 hour shortened to fit the date window) and the bracelet -good quality too-. Lume is good too which is nice though not essential. My only gripe is that the Orient vanilla logo is much better than the OS one but oh well...

Orient Star has a great looking GMT too but it seems a bit of a pain to get one in Europe without importing. If I'm pleased with the Retrograde I could see myself buying more Orient in the future because their simple designs are pretty good.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on June 18, 2019, 05:51:05 AM
I need to go have the metal band shortened to my wrist but here it is :)

Turns out all of my 3 watches have black dials. Probably need to get some colour going at one point...

(https://i.imgur.com/0s9yWd0.jpg)
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on June 18, 2019, 09:15:36 AM
I'm also gonna echo that the Watchfinder&Co videos are pretty cool even if ultimately it is a commercial for their line of business. But it's pleasant it's mostly about the bigger picture more than giving a binary opinion on model such and such.

Also realized my Sinn Chronograph bezel was misaligned, a detail I only picked on because of my digging of the topic of watches
:trigger
I still need to put a new glass on it so I'll see if that can be fixed at the same time.

The other lesson eternally retold is that close up shots distort perception a bit. The Orient Star logo works well and is very discrete in the actual watch.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on June 18, 2019, 11:32:46 AM
Wrist shot :

(https://i.imgur.com/u1hdkWW.jpg)
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on June 20, 2019, 06:42:01 PM
So the Orient Star Retrograde first thoughts :

- My current SO likes it. She has good taste and was in luxury retail at one point so there's that.
- The case is 14mm+ thick, which has come up in a couple of reviews as being just a mm too high. I'm not bothered at all by it but I have no dress requirement and I think a slightly chubby watch better match my morphology.
- 39mm diameter looks just fine on me (to be honest I was a bit surprised the 44mm Seiko was such a good fit). I could maybe go a few mm smaller if I wanted which is good to know.
- It IS maybe a tad too elegant for my clothing style but not as jarring as I feared. Definitely something suitable for the 2.5 social events a year I may attend.

The Orient Star I mentioned earlier is the Star Seeker GMT. Not in production currently, sadly. Hopefully when I'll look at a GMT seriously I might get some actual honest use of the complication...
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on June 21, 2019, 08:48:43 AM
https://www.seikowatches.com/global-en/products/seikopremier/srx015p1 (https://www.seikowatches.com/global-en/products/seikopremier/srx015p1)

Might and go try that. Maybe too cluttered though.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on June 21, 2019, 05:45:43 PM
I looked at the specs of the Sea-Gull Diver but a friend mentioned the 1963 (and speaker from experience). It's a nice, clean, vintage, affordable chronograph and definitely exotic.

https://wornandwound.com/review/a-look-at-the-seagull-1963/ (https://wornandwound.com/review/a-look-at-the-seagull-1963/)
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on June 22, 2019, 02:13:37 PM
Was looking at some more info on the Unimatic (mentioned above, ultra minimalist diver from an Italian micro brand) and saw the following YouTube video.
:kobeyuck

TLDR : That model had the dial and movement wobbling inside the case and upon inspection it may probably be because the case was designed for a Miyota movement (used in the earlier series of that brand) and not for the Seiko one in it (and used since then). Maybe because they decided / had to switch mid-production.

I don't know if it's an isolated instance (maybe a second hand watch modified ?) or just on that particular series but that's not exactly giving any confidence in the brand. It's a 600-700€ watch so not really cheap either.

https://youtu.be/wswgputQoCk

Edit :

Quote
Well, based upon this I think we can conclude with some confidence that the watch really was made in Italy.

:dead

http://www.thedivewatchconnection.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1266931&sid=40ec6e3e3e2d148013c29f4e846b93b5#p1266931 (http://www.thedivewatchconnection.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1266931&sid=40ec6e3e3e2d148013c29f4e846b93b5#p1266931)

Edit 2 : Some owner of an Unimatic on that same forum opened up his and it's a similar story.

http://www.thedivewatchconnection.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1267185#p1267185 (http://www.thedivewatchconnection.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1267185#p1267185)

Some more second hand reports :

http://www.thedivewatchconnection.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1267222#p1267222 (http://www.thedivewatchconnection.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1267222#p1267222)

Edit :trumps :

http://www.thedivewatchconnection.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1267831&sid=0a04b82cfc3c894eed0574c63b676ab2#p1267831 (http://www.thedivewatchconnection.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1267831&sid=0a04b82cfc3c894eed0574c63b676ab2#p1267831)
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on June 23, 2019, 07:45:17 AM
I mean it's probably a defect of some kind, for the one in the video, and the cheap fix probably works good enough that the watch work or I would have expected a lot more instances of failed watches.

It's "affordable" too by watches standard and I understand microbrands may face those sort of issues more commonly but this sours a lot of the appeal. The typo on the case is adding insult to injury.

Kata posted an article (on page 1 IIRC) on how the big luxury brands were playing mind games with their clients and ADs to really amp up the scarcity and rarity of their products. My SO told me that ETA was doing the same with brands and that sometimes you have no idea when exactly you'll be delivered and how many units will ship out of the one you ordered.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on June 24, 2019, 01:22:38 PM
The wishlist  :doge

An Orient Bambino with a white dial.
A Citizen to fill some gap
A GMT watch (Orient Star Seeker ?)
Sinn U1 S or SE
Sinn Finanz
A Grand Seiko

Edit : Might as well throw the Nomos Orion and an IWC Portugaise in there.

 :notlikethis
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on June 26, 2019, 08:48:34 AM
Coming September 2019 (in France anyway) :

https://wornandwound.com/baselworld-2019-first-look-at-the-seiko-presage-arita-porcelain-dial-collection-refs-spb093-and-spb095/ (https://wornandwound.com/baselworld-2019-first-look-at-the-seiko-presage-arita-porcelain-dial-collection-refs-spb093-and-spb095/)

Too pricey for me but those porcelain dials are lit.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on June 29, 2019, 04:47:16 AM
https://www.infowars.com/aoc-criticized-for-wearing-600-watch-during-crying-border-photo-op/ (https://www.infowars.com/aoc-criticized-for-wearing-600-watch-during-crying-border-photo-op/)

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The photos, which show AOC crying into her hands, were taken two days before she won her Congressional race. They show her outside a “tent city” in Tornillo, Texas which was being used to temporarily hold migrant children.

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Eagle-eyed sleuths zoomed in on the watch and found out that it was a Mavado Museum Classic which retails at $595.

You wear Rolexes (and Tudors too), and so does the rest of your gang, to supposedly infiltrate the satanic elite, Alex.  :gurl

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=578372 (https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=578372)

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Post by: Kara on June 29, 2019, 06:25:29 AM
MO-vado :stahp

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The automatic version of that watch is way too expensive imo.
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It's also one of the few quintessentially American designs left.
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Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on June 30, 2019, 03:08:05 PM
https://youtu.be/CPyEs4IDKis

 :lawd

20k tho :larry
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on July 01, 2019, 11:18:29 AM
Orient Bambino II (white dial, gold hands and markings) on the way. A slight rebate on it, I hesitated with an heavy discounted dress Seiko Kinetic but that fills the gap for a base Orient.
Will probably see for another Seiko diver (maybe with more reserve)... I guess Citizen would help do a Japanese Royal Flush (maybe with a Casio Edifice...?) but the visual designs are really inferior to my taste.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on July 01, 2019, 06:50:39 PM
I fucked up my Bota 24 uno trying to change the battery myself, and I don't trust anyone in the area to fix it right. I'm so mad.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on July 01, 2019, 07:20:27 PM
I fucked up my Bota 24 uno trying to change the battery myself, and I don't trust anyone in the area to fix it right. I'm so mad.

Man that sucks. I took a look at their website and even a complete service on their quartz model isn't crazily expensive. It's probably worth it if there's no decent option for servicing it locally.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Kara on July 01, 2019, 07:33:13 PM
What broke on it? A Ronda is about as ubiquitous as an ETA and they'll probably just replace it when you take it to get fixed.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on July 01, 2019, 07:46:23 PM
I fucked up my Bota 24 uno trying to change the battery myself, and I don't trust anyone in the area to fix it right. I'm so mad.

Man that sucks. I took a look at their website and even a complete service on their quartz model isn't crazily expensive. It's probably worth it if there's no decent option for servicing it locally.

I contacted them, and they were like "don't send it yet" and gave me some info about people in new york. I'm not in new york.

What broke on it? A Ronda is about as ubiquitous as an ETA and they'll probably just replace it when you take it to get fixed.

Whilst cracking it open the flathead I was using slipped and crunched one of the springs or something.  also it's not a ronda...
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Kara on July 01, 2019, 08:00:55 PM
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The UNO-24 models are driven by a Swiss-made Ronda quartz movement. Unlike the much cheaper “Swiss-parts” movements, the components in this movement are manufactured and assembled entirely in Switzerland.

The original Ronda movement ensures that the UNO 24 will run smoothly and precisely for many years, which reflects the BOTTA principle of technical and design durability in its German-made watches.

 ???
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on July 01, 2019, 08:05:50 PM
oh, sorry I was thinking about the ronda brand. my fault.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Kara on July 01, 2019, 08:25:02 PM
No problem, the brand / movement distinction is kind of peculiar. 8)

Real talk: Sometime brands like this just don't want to service their watches if they break or they don't have a great multilingual customer support staff. I did some research and it's not a customized Ronda movement in the watch, Ronda makes one for that style of timekeeping sold off the shelf.

idk where you live exactly, but any major metro will have a watchmaker who can swap out the movement for a new one. It appears to be the calibre 515.24H. The one in there may be salvageable but it's probably cheaper just to swap it out for a new one.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Kara on July 03, 2019, 02:23:41 AM
Not up to the standards of Watchfinder.co.uk's videos, but I figured the Seikoreans would enjoy some of these new releases.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58pJ3EezuT8

That green dial Presage Cocktail Time would look really good on a Milanese bracelet. :whew
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Kara on July 03, 2019, 02:44:09 AM
Kata posted an article (on page 1 IIRC) on how the big luxury brands were playing mind games with their clients and ADs to really amp up the scarcity and rarity of their products. My SO told me that ETA was doing the same with brands and that sometimes you have no idea when exactly you'll be delivered and how many units will ship out of the one you ordered.

RE: the first item - on the Hodinkee podcast this week they were talking about how Rolex is currently operating at capacity (they had to petition the Canton of Geneva for dispensation to operate on Saturday or something) so their consensus was that their chronic supply issues stem from an unwillingness to scale up their production as well as an unwillingness to turn into an Audemars Piguet type company. (The Royal Oak is #iconic and everything, but it's hard not to think of Audemars Piguet as a one-watch company these days.)

RE: ETA - ETA used to have to provide movements to whomever could pay upon request because the Swiss competition regulator ruled that they were a monopoly. Swatch grew tired of that because (1) they also sell watches with ETA movements (I kind of suspect this drove the development of the lower hertz / higher power reserve movements derived from existing ETA movements they use in the Swatch brands) and (2) they had to sell to any company that could pay even if the company was some fly-by-night operation. Through some wrangling ETA has managed to loosen the regulators grasp and they ultimately intend to only sell to deserving brands. (I don't think Tudor is waiting on ETA movements, for example.)
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on July 03, 2019, 05:46:02 AM
Oh that explains it. Snooping around you catch that ETA started restricting who they were selling to (on top of playing hard to catch with their clients) but it was unclear why.

I'm reading an interview of the Sellita group, because he's "accused" of selling many movements to Asia (he says it's a smear, it certainly looks like one). From what I gather, Sellita was picked to be the token competition to nullify the monopoly and has been growing faster than anticipated, though he mentions Sellita couldn't cover if Swatch Group would strangle availability even further. They're still pretty dependent on them for certain pieces (Those supplied by Nivarox, to quote him) despite having patented their own movements.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on July 03, 2019, 01:00:19 PM
I'll maybe add one more to the collection soon (maybe another diver with a coloured dial, smaller and less angular than the Seiko Samurai ?) but after that I should be set unless I get a ton of disposable income to step up.

Anyway, the Orient Bambino II is here. The white dial has a pearl like reflection. The crown move nicely. It looked smaller out of the box but on the wrist it definitely looks its size (41-42mm). That's noticeably slimmer than my other ones (but they're all 13-14mm so...)

(https://i.imgur.com/XQOPxrL.jpg)
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on July 03, 2019, 01:18:23 PM
I have an e-one which is supposed to be a watch for blind people, that you can touch to feel the time. It just looks dope as fuck.

Anyways, I like to wear it john wick style, with the face on the inside of the wrist, which makes it easier to see... 

It's silly and it entertains me greatly when people ask about both things back to back.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on July 04, 2019, 05:35:19 AM
And the Long Island Watches guy really looks like what you'd expect... well, for Long Island (no offence). It's much less sophisticated than Watchfinder but he's pretty active on Youtube and covers a lot of stuff (especially in the more affordable side).
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on July 04, 2019, 10:53:39 AM
Went to the Seiko shop.
I looked closer to some of the Premiers but they're too massive, busy and clunky. Weird angles on the lugs and all that. A shame because they have nice complications. Not a big date fan though. Some of the higher end Presage are nice but too large.

I tried the SPB105J1 (new model, dark green dial, cream hands/markers with gold edges diving watch, metal bracelet, crown at 4) and the SPB053J1 (dial and bezel in dark blue, cream hands, rubber bracelet, crown at 3). Both use the 6R15 movement which is an upgrade for me (50h reserve), both have Sapphire glass (though I have no complaint for the mineral proprietary Hardlex I experienced). The blue one is cheaper but that's on account of the rubber bracelet somehow -according to the saleswoman- despite not having the (ever mysterious and luxury sounding) Zaratsu polishing on the lugs. The dark green didn't look as good in person on my wrist than on the photos though. The blue I like a lot and it's a colour I have quite a bit for clothes. It's slightly smaller than the Samurai. I'm a bit torn about the rubber bracelet (comfort is just fine, it's not visually the most appealling) but I have already have 3 metal ones and I could always substitute it for a NATO band.

Oh and unrelated but my dad bought back a vintage Air King (he used to have one he sold, but he missed wearing a watch) which I could name just because the case is so small by today's standards (34mm IIRC) which makes it one of the most affordable automatic Rolexes at this point. He's a one watch only guy and current sizes don't appeal to him at all. It seemed much more puny than in my memories but it works well as a statement of quiet elegance (especially with that greyish white dial).
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Post by: VomKriege on July 05, 2019, 03:41:03 PM
I'm not surprised to hear that MVMT, that had a hefty marketing push (in podcasts and even 4x3 posters recently in the subway over here) have terrible reputation.

:hhh

Edit :

https://youtu.be/Blo3Fw57HjM

 :heyman

ALPHA M !

Apparently still sell like cupcakes. :fbm

Edit 2 : Apparently Movado bought them almost a year ago. Bookends and synchronicities.  :ohhh

https://youtu.be/O2_zTp1WYoA

This video has some interesting commenting on that.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on July 08, 2019, 09:17:32 AM
Might end up with an Hermès quartz watch soon too (family stuff). The slanted numbers design.
What a rabbit hole.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on July 18, 2019, 03:55:50 PM
This Seiko 5 is 90€ with the summer promotion. :notlikethis
I'm very tempted, especially since it's only 37mm.

https://www.seikoboutique.fr/seiko-5/518-montre-homme-acier-seiko5-snxs73k1.html (https://www.seikoboutique.fr/seiko-5/518-montre-homme-acier-seiko5-snxs73k1.html)

Tonight I saw this one (Chaumet Dandy, or so it would seem) from up close (but with gold colored parts, including the links on the strap). I like the asymmetry and the retro case though that's not something I'd wear. Actually, despite the name, it works well as an unisex watch (as I can tell from experience). The mechanical part is more run of the mill.

(https://i.imgur.com/8eLfuZ0.jpg)

Otherwise the Seiko SPB053J1 is dreamy. I love the dark blue tone and that the bezel marking are less prominent due to tone. Turning the bezel has a really satisfying sound. The glossy texture on dial/bezel look very high end It's one of those things that sounds to be audiophile-style bullshit but in truth it's pretty distinct (having another Seiko diver to compare to). As I expected, the rubber strap is super comfy, probably the one material most tolerable in heat. The strap lock and tail-retainer (probably not the correct english terms) look massive and solid and they even have a stamp on the strap's end to give it a more sophisticated look. I know good rubber is actually not that cheap but you know... It's not very "jewelry". It's not a problem for me in my professional setting but the rubber strap is definitely too "actual sport" for a dress watch.

(Obligatory drops of water on the glass.)

(https://i.imgur.com/t7ohr5G.jpg)
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on July 18, 2019, 04:11:54 PM
Browsing the Citizen site I also found this I really like (as far as I can tell on photos) :

https://www.citizenwatch.eu/fr/produit/ar1135-10e/ (https://www.citizenwatch.eu/fr/produit/ar1135-10e/)

All black, thin (no number on the Citizen site but creationwatches says 5mm), 39mm. I'd need to see the dial texture for real. Only major downside is the fairly bland "Eco drive" text (that font is really... unremarkable. And I find the text to be unbalanced, probably because of the whole 3 letters 5 Letters thing. And it's kind of a bad name, to be honest). My biggest pet peeves with the Seiko is the Prospex logo (it's OK... But unnecessary and detract from the cleanliness) but at least it's small. Maybe just having an "ED" marking in a decent font would work better.

The classic pseudo cursive "Automatic / water resistant" Orient have on the Bambino II is really all you need IMHO. Then again, as you know from my ramblings, I'm a bit of a Savonarole as far as dial designs go...
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on July 19, 2019, 04:20:15 PM
The Seiko 5 went out of stock.
Looked at Casio and they have some very cheap, plain quartz watches with Milanese bracelet (in the Vintage collection).
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Kara on July 19, 2019, 04:22:28 PM
I visually like their Oceanus line a lot, but I'm not interested in satellite watches. You should check them out, Japanese domestic market only though.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on July 19, 2019, 04:35:44 PM
I visually like their Oceanus line a lot, but I'm not interested in satellite watches. You should check them out, Japanese domestic market only though.

Oh that's what JDM stands for. I got the idea but didn't guess the exact acronym. Yeah I started looking into this rabbit hole...
I was on Chrono24 and found a Japanese shop that had this radio controlled / solar Orient with a purple dial :
https://www.chrono24.fr/orient/se01-c0-bss--id11598235.htm (https://www.chrono24.fr/orient/se01-c0-bss--id11598235.htm)
Apparently the radio control doesn't work outside of the range of the Japanese stations but the only review I found mentions that the watch is still +/- 15sec a month even just on the internal mechanism.

It's part of the NEO70 series which is vintage inspired in appearance but only the Chronograph is sold in Europe (saw it on OrientUrhen).

And yeah those Oceanus have good faces.
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Post by: Tripon on July 19, 2019, 07:11:32 PM
I went and picked up a Garmin smart watch for $150. It's okay, but I need to help find a band that fits my wrist.
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Post by: VomKriege on July 20, 2019, 06:14:49 AM
I like this. :notlikethis

https://casio.jp/wat/watch_detail/OCW-T150-2A/ (https://casio.jp/wat/watch_detail/OCW-T150-2A/)

The base model is nice too.

https://www.seiyajapan.com/collections/casio/products/ocw-s100-1ajf (https://www.seiyajapan.com/collections/casio/products/ocw-s100-1ajf)

 :lawd

Why do we only get the massive clunky satellite watches over here ?

Any reliable places where you can buy JDM ?
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on July 29, 2019, 04:54:09 PM
Saw some Alpina in the flesh. Somehow the dials seems too big or present.

Tried a Mido diver with a pseudo Milanese mesh strap (pseudo because it has a secure diver lock), probably the Ocean Star Tribute
(M026.830.11.041.00). It looks nice, well proportioned (40,5mm), the rectangular hands in particular are good and the color palette (blue, white, orange) is pleasing but maybe a bit too plain.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on July 30, 2019, 05:47:50 AM
I've put some inquiries for two Casio Oceanus (T150 and S100B) to get an idea from prices from a Japanese reseller. I've scoured a bit to find the reputable names and basically it's always the 3 or 4 same Japan shop owners who come up as entirely trustworthy. You probably won't cut up a deal as good as on Rakuten or eBay as far as prices go but it does eliminate any worries treating with shady dealers.

I'm torn on the all black all titanium model. It's Very Cool™ but I feel the silver taint / white dial / clear markings is a better all-purpose fit and less in your face (despite the more ornate dial). Also feel like more complementary with what I already have (black and dark dials). Slighty less expensive too and I'm a sucker for Roman numerals.

Opinions on all black metal watches perhaps, fashion wise ?
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Post by: Crash Dummy on July 30, 2019, 09:08:21 AM
any thoughts on frederique constantine? i'm tempted by their slim moonphase and it's considerably cheaper than jlc
(https://cdn2.jomashop.com/media/catalog/product/f/r/frederique-constant-slim-line-moonphase-automatic-men_s-watch-705s4s6-fc-705s4s6.jpg)
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on July 30, 2019, 09:42:01 AM
any thoughts on frederique constantine? i'm tempted by their slim moonphase and it's considerably cheaper than jlc
(https://cdn2.jomashop.com/media/catalog/product/f/r/frederique-constant-slim-line-moonphase-automatic-men_s-watch-705s4s6-fc-705s4s6.jpg)

I saw some alongside the Mido but haven't tried any. Overall they have a lot of nice clean classic designs for dress... maybe a little bit too classic even. They're Swiss, have at least one in-house movement though only on some of their lines if I understand correctly, are now owned by Citizen (I don't know if they get Miyota quartz movements) and most everyone seem to think the price to value is good and horological chops decent

They use gold plating on some watches and it's apparently a bit of a deal breaker to some.

People think a lot of good of their Worldtimer Manufacture & Moonphase Manufacture (w/ in house movement) entry model at 2000-3000$/€ and I'm sure it extends to the one you have a picture of (Slimline) which is also in-house though you can search for the particular reference on WatchUSeek if needed.
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Post by: VomKriege on July 30, 2019, 09:49:21 AM
All the Moonphases seem to be 42mm though which is on the bigger / too big size for some people.

Edit : Worn & Wound apparently mentions a "classic" variation at 40,5mm.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Crash Dummy on July 30, 2019, 10:10:39 AM
All the Moonphases seem to be 42mm though which is on the bigger / too big size for some people.

Edit : Worn & Wound apparently mentions a "classic" variation at 40,5mm.
thanks for your feedback! yeah the one i saw was 40.5mm, and even that is pushing it on my skinny wrists
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on July 31, 2019, 04:39:26 PM
So I'm looking for a black Milanese Mesh strap, but here's the catch : it has to be 19mm wide.  :maf

eBay has some from Germany but I was curious if someone knew a good seller. I asked to a strap workshop here but they redirected me to WatchGecko (don't have that size in black).
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on August 03, 2019, 04:50:32 AM
This is the watch that would be paired to the 19mm Milanese strap :

(https://i.imgur.com/ikhj8No.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SISGDy8.jpg)

It's sub 5mm thin and honestly while I'm glad to have that in the collection I can't see myself seeking such slim watches in the future, need more beef on my wrist. I think a mesh stripe would make it more distinctly jewelry / fashion item and compliment the dial texture.

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Post by: Crash Dummy on August 04, 2019, 06:17:47 AM
i am growing to really like the ap royal oak, and not just because i can't afford a nautilus
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Crash Dummy on August 06, 2019, 08:09:40 AM
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The Submariner Guy: This is a Rolex. I just got my first profit sharing bonus and all my friends told me to buy it. It’s shiny. It’s a Rolex.

The Other Submariner Guy: This is my ceramic supercase maxi-dial Rolex reference 114060 Submariner, which has no date, but should not be called the “No-Date”. It is made of Oystersteel, which is better than every other steel, and uses a superior Oysterlock clasp with a best-in-class Glidelock extension feature. Over the next 30 minutes I will explain to you why Rolex is the paragon of vertical integration and in-house manufacturing.

The Speedy Tuesday Guy: My Speedmaster went to the Moon! It’s the most iconic watch of all time, and it went to the Moon. Everyone should have one in their collection, because it went to the Moon. Did I mention this watch went to the Moon?

The Calatrava Guy: I am a man of impeccable taste and class. I am always better-dressed than you. My wife used to be extremely attractive but now she has wrinkles and yells at me all the time.

The Panerai Guy: I used to be cool. How come I’m not cool anymore? Can someone please tell me I’m cool?

The Beaten-Up Datejust Guy: My wife bought me this gift for our 10th anniversary. I think it’s a Rolex? Yeah, it says Rolex on the dial. I wear it in the shower, I think that’s okay, right? Service? Am I supposed to get this thing serviced?

The Vintage Heuer Guy: I spend all my time on Watchuseek and TimeZone, and have written several thoroughly-researched articles on the history of racing chronographs. Here’s my extensive collection of vintage watches from brands that no longer exist, and by the way, let me tell you the entire lineage of the Valjoux 72 and every watch in which it was used.

The Vintage Daytona Guy: My watch is extremely rare and costs more than my Ferrari, and you’ll have to trust me on that because it looks totally trashed and is virtually indistinguishable from the eight other variants of the exact same model I have in my climate-controlled high-security vault at home. Also, would you like to go to a John Mayer concert with me?

The Nautilus Guy: Hold on while I Instagram my watch next to this random hot chick in front of a rooftop pool in Taipei.

The Grand Seiko Guy: I appreciate fine finishing, technological innovation, and modern design above status and recognition. My watch is a marvel of accuracy, craftsmanship, and advanced engineering, and I don’t care if anyone else knows about it. Also, please love me.

The Hublot Guy: I hate myself.

The Richard Mille Guy: I hate myself but I have more money than God, so everyone else hates me too.

The Journe Guy: I’m the ultimate watch collector. I have connections in the industry and had lunch with FP last week. I know more than you, and you know it.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on August 06, 2019, 08:35:09 AM
Hublot Guy sounds accurate.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on August 23, 2019, 08:15:57 AM
I tried the latest Seiko Astron (new caliber 5x) and for my personal taste goes it's a huge improvement as far as external design is concerned. The 8x models were big, had some ugly buttons (phased out in the next iterations though), I didn't the case shape, etc...

I payed more attention to the Titanium this time round and the lightness is a bit weird and tinny at first but wearing it is probably a breeze though. The dial has some nice depth and the arrows are good (not great). The main issue I have with it besides price (LOL) is how busy it is with all the sundials. Sadly the better looking model IMHO is the black/red limited edition they did with some japanese baseball player playing with the Angels and it's a JDM watch AFAIK.

The 8x series had one iteration with just 3 hands and a single gauge (probably power reserve doubling as signal reception indicator) but I imagine the new caliber will get more variants going forward.

https://www.seikowatches.com/fr-fr/products/astron/5x-series
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on August 24, 2019, 03:52:32 PM
Kara is back on a sabbatical (or perhaps it's more accurate he ended his Bore sabbatical ?) so not sure if anyone can respond, but I'll probably complete my Japanese quartet of Seiko, Orient (and Orient Star), Citizen, Casio soon... I'm sure there's some lesser known brands I'm unaware of but if I kept on that line in the future I'll probably look up to Grand Seiko, Credor and Royal Orient. Does anyone have opinions on the last two ?
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on August 27, 2019, 03:16:55 PM
Finally got around to have my Sinn fixed and serviced. The maintenance is not a cheap affair and it might take some time... Maybe will do the same for an old Seiko quartz watch (Titanium Sapphire, as I forgot, good value for its price really) that I had laying around. Much cheaper obviously.

The Oceanus will have to wait one or two months too, out of stock at the AD. I hesitated to upgrade to a more complex model (chronograph, second time zone display...) but he's waiting on a shipment for all models anyway so I stuck with the clear / blue combo. Some of the high ends Oceanus (Mantas) are pretty slick but at that price point you can buy an Astron domestically and it's out of my budget.

There's been a lapse in the mail communication at one poing. It happens sometimes, if forum feedback is to be believed, though he's otherwise perfectly reliable where it counts and affable.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: naff on September 03, 2019, 09:25:37 PM
went for a seiko turtle "great white"divers watch. i free dive, but i doubt i'll actually use it in the water.  :doge

not a big watch guy, have a retro seiko silver wave digital watch, but i just thought this looked great for a decent price. https://timeandtidewatches.com/hands-on-swimming-with-sharks-the-seiko-prospex-srpd21k-save-the-ocean/
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on September 09, 2019, 04:32:55 AM
went for a seiko turtle "great white"divers watch. i free dive, but i doubt i'll actually use it in the water.  :doge

not a big watch guy, have a retro seiko silver wave digital watch, but i just thought this looked great for a decent price. https://timeandtidewatches.com/hands-on-swimming-with-sharks-the-seiko-prospex-srpd21k-save-the-ocean/

Seiko Turtle shape doesn't work that well on me, sadly but you can't really go wrong with their divers, they're all pretty good. Did you get the model you linked, with the blue waves dial ? I thought it looked nice myself but maybe a little bit too busy / fancy.

Received my Oceanus and I'm very pleased. Had to pay tax on it, but you can't win this game every time. Retrieving the package was a bit of a mundane urban adventure because the French courier is so bad. Looks even nicer in person than on photos and I get why pictures of the internet have the blue accent vary so wildly : It's all very reflective (hands, markings) which is a nice contrast to the Titanium matte finish so depending on light conditions the blue will appear blue, turquoise or greyish. This model have an adjustable strap mechanism too. I found an English manual on the net but I needn't worry as one is included despite the watch being Japan Domestic only in theory. It's a radio watch so controls differ quite a bit from the usual, it's less intuitive but basically beyond doing a manual sync every couple of weeks or months (or letting it auto sync at night) you shouldn't need to do anything for accurate timekeeping once you selected your timezone.

Photos :
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(https://i.imgur.com/eEDYblx.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/j5o3EWO.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/hjnDc2B.jpg)
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Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on September 12, 2019, 06:08:27 AM
I really like the Oceanus a lot. It's a very "small" 40/41mm to wear on top of the Titanium making it a breeze despite being thick enough to not feel cheap. If I had the means and had to choose (putting aside the issue of no / shorter warranty and accessible service) I'd probably go with the higher-end in that line over the Seiko Astron.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on September 12, 2019, 12:01:34 PM
Finally got around to fixing the Sinn and it is back from the workshop. The bezel is still misaligned but I guess I accept that as a quirk. Probably because of the Casio but this feels quite heavy.

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(https://i.imgur.com/OM13cDV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/cubJa47.jpg)
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Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 12, 2019, 12:27:16 PM
I bought my first watch in 25 years

Casio F91W

Pretty fucking tight watch for under a tenner
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on September 12, 2019, 12:31:09 PM
I bought my first watch in 25 years

Casio F91W

Pretty fucking tight watch for under a tenner

One of the true modern classics. :preach
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on September 28, 2019, 04:55:44 PM
The Seiko shop in Paris has a couple of Credor in store, what do you know ? But at 9500€ a piece that's not for me. Looked nice but didn't try.

There's also new Astrons 5x with a different case form and most importantly in steel (and closer to the original Astrons) and not titanium. It's a pleasant fit but if I had to choose I'd probably go titanium. But the steel ones are cheaper. Dial and complications are identical.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on October 22, 2019, 08:32:45 AM
It's a manga tie-in but this looks pretty good :

https://oceanus.casio.jp/collection/3way/OCW-G2000SB.html (https://oceanus.casio.jp/collection/3way/OCW-G2000SB.html)

 :lawd

But it's a 2000-2500 € or $ budget...
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: naff on November 13, 2019, 09:42:55 PM
been wearing this for a couple months now and I love it. tried to pick up the beauty of the dial in pics but can't at all. it is really bright in person and the layering of the waves really pops, but looks p faded in the pics.

been casting an eye to other divers I'd like to try next. kinda want an all black watch, but couldn't afford an authentic ceramic one which would be my ideal (love the iwc big pilot top gun for instance), but am digging the look of the longines legend diver.

still haven't been diving with this, but I've been swimming in the ocean a bunch with it. it's (relatively) inexpensive price is really nice as I'm not overly concerned about coddling it.

(https://i.imgur.com/DosZYM6.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/dtNHelw.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/8xqlbI9.jpg)
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on November 21, 2019, 03:34:36 AM
Quote
kinda want an all black watch, but couldn't afford an authentic ceramic one which would be my ideal (love the iwc big pilot top gun for instance), but am digging the look of the longines legend diver.

There's some options at affordable ranges :

Orient had a Ray Raven diver. It was for the II series, haven't kept up if they did so for the current III mark. I'm pretty sure the Ray Raven was retailed in the US. 250$ IIRC.

Seiko has one current reference like this : SRPD29K1. I may try one in store if there in the coming weeks, I'll let the thread know. Price is 350-400€ I think.
Seiko have more in their Prospex / Sport lines but I'm not a fan of the looks.

Casio has one in the Oceanus line. Radio / Solar watch though, not Automatic. Not a diver too and only through Japanese retailers : OCW-S100B-1AJF. 500-600$

I'm sure Citizen has something like that for 500 or less in their diving range.

I've been looking a bit too, might go for something like that next or a gaudy gold looking watch (saw a shop carrying Orient Tristar models close to one of my jobs).
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on November 21, 2019, 03:44:43 AM
Yeah Citizen has lots of metal bracelet - all black models on their US website, not just divers.

Victorinox has some too. Not sure of the price range, probably a notch higher than the Japanese ones.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on December 01, 2019, 07:02:16 AM
Might be able to get something to close 2019... Current eye catchers :

https://www.seiyajapan.com/collections/casio/products/casio-oceanus-ocw-t3000c-2ajf-limited-edition-with-bluetooth (https://www.seiyajapan.com/collections/casio/products/casio-oceanus-ocw-t3000c-2ajf-limited-edition-with-bluetooth)

The absolute best though is those Seiko Urushi dials :
https://www.seiyajapan.com/collections/seiko/urushi-dial (https://www.seiyajapan.com/collections/seiko/urushi-dial)

 :whew
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on December 04, 2019, 05:31:39 AM
Tried a few Seiko in person.

Seiko Prospex SRPD25K1 which classify as a "Monster" diver. It's not that big tho, more chunky on the height, deep dial but tight. I like the dark blue dial / cream hands combo but it's too redundant with what I already have. Plus the number font on the bezel are meh and in the neverending magnifying lens for day date debate I lean heavily on "nope".

I tried one of the Presage Urushi dial too. The SARW013 : sadly the shop doesn't have anymore of the three hands in stock (limited edition). It looks really good and all, I like the strap lock too, but it's a bit over my budget. Besides, while I find it very elegant, I already have plain dress watches.

Which is why I also tried the Seiko Premier SRX017P1. It looks a bit huge, intimidating on photos (day, date, power reserve, 24h dial, moon phase complications... A lot to display) but the sensation on wrist is not like that at all (though the white dial version makes it looks a lot bigger... I prefer the blue - pink gold hands though you see less of the good amount of work they did on texturing it). By my standards it's borderline in-your-face and bold but that's the thing : I think the design is good, adds something new to my watch choice and that I can pull it off. It's not an automatic (it's an hybrid rotor weight powering a quartz battery) but you probably couldn't find one with those many features at that price point. Plus having a month energy reserve is a bit of a benefit because setting the time on your automatic watches can get a bit tedious sometimes past a certain point.

I'll keep looking around JDM watches meanwhile.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Crash Dummy on December 05, 2019, 01:28:20 AM
was talking to someone via work who loves richard mille and pronounced jlc like the drink  >:(
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on December 05, 2019, 04:30:05 AM
That's the Seiko Premier I have eyes on at the moment :

https://www.seikowatches.com/fr-fr/products/seikopremier/srx017p1 (https://www.seikowatches.com/fr-fr/products/seikopremier/srx017p1)

Everything else I really could fancy currently (some high end Oceanus or Astron) is over budget except maybe the all black Oceanus. I could nab an Urushi at that price point but only if customs don't also the VAT on it which I wouldn't bet on.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on December 15, 2019, 02:23:06 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/NvMNneD.jpg)

Not the best light but I like the watch very much though.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Crash Dummy on December 27, 2019, 02:10:19 PM
 :whew https://www.chrono24.com/jaegerlecoultre/master-ultra-thin-moon-34mm-1258420--id6607217.htm
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on December 28, 2019, 07:51:20 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/78jUlT3.jpg)

New moon, new photo.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Crash Dummy on January 20, 2020, 02:41:49 AM
the richard mille blue saphire skull, a watch that costs $2.5m, looks like a something that comes free with a happy meal
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Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Kara on January 20, 2020, 02:52:13 AM
It looks like it even has a rubber strap. :lol

Good timing, I was going to bump for this news:

https://www.ablogtowatch.com/bulgari-octo-finissimo-100m-stainless-steel/

 :whew yes pls
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Crash Dummy on January 20, 2020, 03:07:37 AM
 :bow genta  :bow2
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: BlueTsunami on January 20, 2020, 10:11:44 AM
Another beauty shot of my Invicta

(https://abload.de/img/img_20200117_233556_2rrkd5.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=img_20200117_233556_2rrkd5.jpg)
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 20, 2020, 11:01:01 AM
https://twitter.com/BiIlionaires/status/1218886373010280448

Luxury, designer watches :neogaf
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on February 22, 2020, 11:10:37 AM
Casio has a pretty rad Oceanus that also does compass :

https://oceanus.casio.jp/collection/cachalot/ (https://oceanus.casio.jp/collection/cachalot/)

Almost 1000€ though :fbm
45mm too, if I read the info correctly.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on February 27, 2020, 07:44:33 AM
I think I'm going to ask around a couple of Japanese reseller about the availability of those Cachalots, though it will probably be a couple of months at least before indulging. The official site only display the 1AJF model but there's apparently (an older ?) one with a white dial and blue & red sub-tones. It's likely less than 1000€ without taxes but I'd be surprised you could escape the VAT there. Plus having to have it transit through Chronopost (an infamously shit service) is almost a deterrent in itself.

I'm very pleased with the three hands Oceanus I have, it's my go-to alongside the Premier and honestly I wouldn't mind having a model with all the bells and whistles (Cachalot does Radio World Time, Compass, Alarm, Stop Watch in a full Titanium watch). Solar-powered with a power reserve going several months makes it very hassle free. I honestly wouldn't have thought much of it but when you have enough watches that you cycle it's actually nice not to have to wind and adjust them every time.

It's not a 1-to1 comparison because it's Radio and not GPS like the Seiko model but the Oceanus are IMO a much better deal, euros for euros, in that brackets even if you're maybe on your own warranty-wise.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on March 04, 2020, 06:14:50 PM
I'm being subjected to an obnoxious ad for Vincero where a douche is telling us we're sheeps and that watches will help you meet your wife. It's tongue-in-cheek which actually makes it a lot worst.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on March 08, 2020, 10:54:48 AM
https://twitter.com/Benjjjyy/status/1209822615134715905

 :gamer :hhh
What's up with Benjamins ?
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on March 18, 2020, 06:23:55 PM
This might come up as a surprise, but it's not exactly the best time to jizz some non-inconsequential level of cash on a vanity item from Japan, that on top of that would be in some warehouse where I can't go retrieve it because of a lockdown.

On the other hand, no restaurants and no bars while work is still flowing in (for now) means I might actually do better financially this month when all is said and done... Either way, I'm ready to treat myself when this shit finally stops.

I've said it... Three times ? ...but preased be Kara's name :preach for pointing me to the Casio Oceanus line. I'm keeping an eye on the Cachalot & the black Ion plated three hand S100 model for something a bit more reasonable.

I've also seen other models :

https://products.oceanus.casio.jp/_detail/OCW-T2600L-1A/
I like the leather strap but the Cachalot wide array of features (half of them I won't use) over this for a similar price point is a bit of a deal breaker.

https://products.oceanus.casio.jp/_detail/OCW-S5000B-1A/
A much fatter all black option, also manufactured on their premium production line in Japan. Also 200k yens so  :doge
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on March 30, 2020, 09:49:48 AM
Not even realising that we had to adjust for DST because your watch did it automatically.
:rejoice
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on April 16, 2020, 01:38:47 PM
https://wornandwound.com/citizens-newest-nighthawk-continues-their-tradition-of-robust-aviation-inspired-timekeepers/ (https://wornandwound.com/citizens-newest-nighthawk-continues-their-tradition-of-robust-aviation-inspired-timekeepers/)

That's not bad. The current Nighthawk are too busy and massive for my taste. Price seems OK too.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on April 18, 2020, 07:44:13 AM
Rolex, Patek and a few others are pushing back their releases.
What a shame.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on April 21, 2020, 05:26:38 AM
Sinn has two watches with Mother of Pearl dials (black and white)

https://www.sinn.de/en/Modell/556_I_Mother-of-pearl_S.htm (https://www.sinn.de/en/Modell/556_I_Mother-of-pearl_S.htm)

38.5mm and not too expensive.
Sellita movement and no complications tho.
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Post by: VomKriege on April 21, 2020, 05:39:43 AM
Also everytime I google images of a watch to have a better idea in situ I always get the impression everyone has shrimp wrist or something. Optics maybe.

:yeshrug
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Post by: VomKriege on April 21, 2020, 02:40:17 PM
Quote
It seems that this thread has run its course.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=722353 (https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=722353)

Starts with a semi-famous Youtuber and big active player in the Australian secondhand market being accused of having scammed a buyer and shipped a fake. Only read the bookends but it seem that along the way it became evident he scammed a lot of people. I expect some good drama in between.

Quote
- 13th Jan, he sent me a photo showing a house on fire and claimed it to be his parents house and the reason for not reply my message is he is helping them out. He said he will send the rest of the fund first thing in the morning (that did not happen)
- 13th Jan, he said he will sent me a rolex wallet for the troubles (never received)
- 15th Jan, he will send me the fund tomorrow. (didn’t happen again)

:lol

https://www.rolexforums.com/showpost.php?p=10335635&postcount=145 (https://www.rolexforums.com/showpost.php?p=10335635&postcount=145)
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Post by: VomKriege on April 22, 2020, 01:48:40 PM
Asked for a trusted second opinion on the aesthetics of the Sinn 556 I Mother-of-pearl S. She liked the blue dial they have but otherwise we both agreed a glossy black leather strap would pair better with the Mother of Pearl. Sinn has a wide variety on offer, cowhide or calfskin would do I think.

We're still not there but I'm keeping that one on the back of my mind.
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Post by: VomKriege on April 30, 2020, 09:08:43 AM
I liked the Sinn a lot but it's maybe a bit rich for my taste. So I continued browsing for something nice at a lower price point...

https://www.seiyajapan.com/products/orient-orientstar-classic-rk-af0002s-made-in-japan (https://www.seiyajapan.com/products/orient-orientstar-classic-rk-af0002s-made-in-japan)

I like this a lot. It's less unique than the Sinn but I could do with an elegant and understated dress watch. It's 13mm thick dome included but most of my watches are in that range and thin doesn't do it for me.

There's also a gold hands / markers model and one with blue hands / metal bracelet but I think the simplicity of all silver is better.

Looking at the Orient catalog, I also like their "Howard" line. Blue dial especially. I don't think I have anything with Arabic numerals on the dial.

https://youtu.be/bBy8XuO-fJs

I also looked at some second hand watches and you can get some 1970-era Omegas or Universal Genève for 1000 euros. I'm not one yet for the vintage rabbit hole and as you would expect with watches of that era they're really small (34 and 35mm). Maybe I'll end up getting there eventually.
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Post by: VomKriege on May 10, 2020, 02:10:23 AM
Saw this design from Citizen, an homage to a seventies watch, the Tsuno ("horns" in Japanese), where the crowns and buttons are top and bottom of the case instead of on the side.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZvCQQOb.jpg)

https://www.ablogtowatch.com/citizen-tsuno-chronograph-racer-wrist-watch/ (https://www.ablogtowatch.com/citizen-tsuno-chronograph-racer-wrist-watch/)

I like the novelty but it's large, tall, has an alarm (I don't care much for that)... Maybe a tad expensive for a cool gimmick.

There's a relatively affordable watch Citizen does that I like, especially since the dial is pretty sober for what the brand typically do, but I need to look into what you can get from Japan (there's some markup for buying in France...) without the rubber strap I find uggo with "Promaster" stamped very large on it.

https://www.seiyajapan.com/products/cc-3060-10e

Orient Star has a "field watch" Outdoor that looks pretty decent. As usual with Orient Star, it's sober and it has a power reverse :
https://youtu.be/0h5da048Hr4
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Post by: VomKriege on June 17, 2020, 09:16:39 AM
Orient Star Classic, all silver, is on the way.  :hyper
Had differing opinions on gold hands (more luminous) but I like the sobriety of white and silver.

Got a soft spot for the Seiko SARX045 too.
https://youtu.be/qSDf0-YRI_U
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Post by: nudemacusers on June 17, 2020, 10:23:55 AM
Are those the new sarb equivalents? Looks nice.
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Post by: VomKriege on June 17, 2020, 10:44:42 AM
Are those the new sarb equivalents? Looks nice.

Not sure. There's some more references in that series but that one has a more blocky case and links, unlike the others...
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Post by: VomKriege on June 18, 2020, 06:38:08 AM
Like this one which looks good (blue hands is always a safe choice...) and is also a SARX but not the same design (no crown protection).

https://www.seiyajapan.com/collections/seiko/products/seiko-automatic-presage-sarx033 (https://www.seiyajapan.com/collections/seiko/products/seiko-automatic-presage-sarx033)
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Post by: VomKriege on June 19, 2020, 12:35:06 AM
Seiko also has a popular alpinist style model currently, looks nice and has the always tasteful dark green or cream dial :

https://youtu.be/Q0Vv_zGTWLw

Biggest issue for me (besides price  :doge ) is the Prospex logo on the dial. I realized I already talked about that in the past but it's always a bother... The logo is serviceable but bland, always break the purity of dials, I feel.

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Post by: VomKriege on August 08, 2020, 03:46:40 AM
I was gifted a classy travel box for a watch.  :doggy

Also

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://i.imgur.com/rpUsZaQ.jpg)
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 :lawd
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Post by: Kara on August 08, 2020, 03:19:26 PM
Congrats. :D The old adage is to wear your new watch in good health, but that feels a bit morbid given all this. *gestures at the world burning*

RE: the Sinn 556, I've always heard good things, but that was when they had ETA movements. There's some import control here in the U.S. on mother of pearl so I don't know anyone who had that particular model. In my experience they make overbuilt watches that prioritize legibility that feel like they cost too much, which to be blunt describes a lot of watches made in the BRD. I find German military "tacticool" a huge turn off, personally.

The company has some devotees because it was one of the few places you could get a Lemania chronograph movement at the end of its manufacturing life (well, outside a Patek Philippe :girlaff).
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Post by: Kara on August 08, 2020, 03:40:29 PM
Speaking of overbuilt, legible watches that feel like they cost too much, I think this is the first Ball I've ever fancied.

https://shop.ballwatch.ch/en/eiiimarvelight/Marvelight_Chronometer-NM2026C-S28C-BK

Limited edition, but I hope it takes off. The multicolored tritium is a great way to add playfulness to a house style that really struggles to stand out. I'm sure pictures don't do it justice.

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Cyclops window on your date. :donot

Fix your damn seconds hand Ball. :donot
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Post by: VomKriege on August 08, 2020, 03:41:41 PM
I don't mind the tacticool as much as you do (I like the U1, the Mission Timer or the Space model they have... Not sure I'd wear them well tho) but I agree with you they're a bit rich. Sinn allows for more custom bracelet and glass options on their site and from my experience they throw in a tool, some maintenance liquid and a nicer box than your usual Japanese counterpart. Doesn't make up for the cost difference but does it ever.

The mother of pearl dial is unique but the 556 itself much less so. The blue dial is great and exactly the perfect shade but Seiko and Orient have good ones too, for cheaper. Same for legibility, which is why I'm keeping the Orient Star Outdoor on top of the wishlist.

I've been won over by the Power Reserve complication, I think. I cycle too many watches to keep them winded at all times but it's still useful.

Edit : Magnifying glass for the date is the worst turn off ever.
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Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on August 09, 2020, 11:52:49 AM
I changed the battery on my eone finally. Putting it back on my wrist makes me feel so much swagger.

Still need to fix my botta.  :fbm
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Post by: VomKriege on August 20, 2020, 01:53:33 AM
Seiko 5 X Street Fighter :larry

https://www.seikowatches.com/global-en/products/5sports/special/streetfighter/
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Post by: VomKriege on November 09, 2020, 03:37:14 AM
New limited Seiko diver. Like the squares :

https://www.seiyajapan.com/collections/featured-items/products/seiko-marine-master-professional-300m-diver-automatic-sbdx039-limited-edition (https://www.seiyajapan.com/collections/featured-items/products/seiko-marine-master-professional-300m-diver-automatic-sbdx039-limited-edition)
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Post by: VomKriege on November 22, 2020, 04:41:24 AM
Since I'm not a rich man, I'm starting looking more into Sea-Gull (Chinese) that we already mentioned upthread : They have an interesting "Starry sky" design (though the starry sky disk is apparently just a month indicator) and a couple of other I like, the Telemeter Chronomètre or the Wu Yi Gold dial.
It's hard to find reviews in English for those sadly and I need to double check on trusted vendors because AliExpress is a bit of a crapshoot.

This guy compiled a list of Korean brands :
https://medium.com/@radrelsc2/korean-watch-brands-your-guide-to-korean-made-watches-48022031fc4c

Gonna look into that.
Not a lot of automatics as far as I can see...
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Post by: VomKriege on November 25, 2020, 06:11:16 PM
Models that caught my fancy during my last round of Internet window licking. Might involve repeats from earlier in the thread...

Citizen Diver, would look better with a NATO strap.
https://www.citizenwatch.eu/fr/produit/bn0205-10l/ (https://www.citizenwatch.eu/fr/produit/bn0205-10l/)

Citizen GPS watch, keeping the dream of a (somewhat) affordable satellite watch. Maybe a bit big...
https://www.citizenwatch.eu/product/cc3067-11l/

Citizen Flieger lite.
https://www.citizenwatch.eu/product/ca7045-14e/

Orient Flieger type B.
https://montre-automatique.com/produit/orient-flight-ii-ra-ac0h02n-ra-ac0h02n10b/

Seagull 51, an homage to the first Chinese mechanical watch. 38mm is nice.
https://www.seagullwatchcompany.com/products/seagull-classic-watch-wuyi-gold-dial-automatic-mechanical-watch-fkwy
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Post by: VomKriege on November 26, 2020, 06:03:19 AM
Man, if only I opened my heart to quartz it would widen the horizon of affordability so much. I already am fine with solar and hybrid quartz (anything not requiring a battery)... Maybe I need to surmount my watch snobbery.

CWC Royal Navy Diver, a bit expensive (this is one of the cheapest...).
https://www.cwcwatch.com/collections/divers-watches/products/cwc-royal-navy-issue-divers-watch

This one is interesting too :
https://www.cwcwatch.com/collections/general-service-watches/products/cwc-sonar?variant=33261608468566
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Post by: VomKriege on November 29, 2020, 06:22:20 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/Watches/comments/k08h9d/seiko_rising_sun/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Watches/comments/k08h9d/seiko_rising_sun/)

 :uguu
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Post by: VomKriege on December 14, 2020, 08:28:30 AM
Fuck, I looked at Longines and I sort of love a lot of their lines. :dead
I'm a sucker for vintage inspired design so that's probably it.
Realistically I'll only could maybe afford the Conquest VHP 3 Hands (Sub 1k at MSRP).

(https://i.imgur.com/sk9mXLp.jpg)

The Conquest VHP is a high accuracy quartz (+/- 5 seconds of deviation a year) which definitely scratches that small precision kink (Is there really anything in my life where I need to get down to the second ? No. But I still love that I know the actual time).
There's a number of cool features associated : You can set the hours and minutes independently, anti shock and magnetic mechanisms, you can put the watch into energy saving mode but it will still keep time, end of life indicator for the battery, perpetual calendar... And it comes in two sizes, 41 and 43mm.
Good balance between sports/dress, modern but not garish, pleasing visuals (the red accents). Not in love with the 12/6 indexes but in black they fade away in the dial, I think it's the better color choice, black and red can't fail. Think it makes for a good everyday watch, probably pairs well with most styles, very functional, slick and a watch with a decent amount of polish and weight to it.
Custom ETA movement exclusive to Longines too.
Probably one of the cheapest high accuracy watches you can get now, excluding radio and satellite watches (and I think the Longines looks classier than all of them) that achieves pinpoint accuracy via a different process, there's not a ton of other options at that price range. Citizen Chronomaster and Grand Seiko I love too (and closer to what THE WATCH is to me) but it's not the same prize range at all. The Chronomasters are 60% more expensive...

Minuses : The Smart Crown has a ghost push function (VHP GMT and Chronograph use it but has no function here, one of those irritating details...), so-so luminance and water resistance to 50m only (which seems fine for that sort of watch but hurt the polyvalence a bit).

But Longines has a lot of nice vintage inspired offerings I drool over :
Conquest Heritage 35mm (maybe too small for today's standard... There's a 38.5mm version but I don't like the half index. Also date at 12, I'm not sure about that) and the Flagship Heritage in a similar style. The Military Heritage with light dials, blue hands and vintage leather straps (also massive power reserve). All good.

Even the Spirit line, which is their new Automatic line, is pretty slick. Chronometer certified and 100m water resistance, classic dial with nice details.

All too expensive and I already have pilot style or vintage dress watches so they would probably double in my collection.

Will maybe go to try some of those models in person still.
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Post by: VomKriege on December 14, 2020, 09:18:27 AM
The Chronomaster
https://www.seiyajapan.com/collections/citizen-orient/products/the-citizen-high-precision-quartz-ab9000-61e-made-in-japan (https://www.seiyajapan.com/collections/citizen-orient/products/the-citizen-high-precision-quartz-ab9000-61e-made-in-japan)
Kind of the seminal watch design for me but I could see why you'd find it bland and boring. Same for the quartz Grand Seiko (and more expensive.)

https://www.grand-seiko.com/fr-fr/collections/sbgv207g (https://www.grand-seiko.com/fr-fr/collections/sbgv207g)

The Longines Spirit. Way better on a leather strap and in 40mm. The five stars are probably a love it or hate it inclusion to the dial.
https://youtu.be/L6F8s-K5WmI

That video really has the best looking images of some of the current Heritage models :
https://youtu.be/HhlhyAOpPkI

The Heritage Military looks glorious there goddamn.

But 2000€/$ is sort of a threshold where the choice in luxury watches opens up a bit.
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Post by: VomKriege on December 14, 2020, 12:11:18 PM
Otherwise took another look at some brands I always gravitate around :

Rado - I like some of their designs and the "new materials" gimmick but it's very hit and miss. I like the Golden Horse and Captain Cook series but sometimes there's way too much colors competing on the watch with their logo.

Mido - There's some interesting pieces but I don't know how I feel about those dials patterns they love on the Multifort.

Laco - one of the many German makers doing Flieger homages, probably the cheapest for quality. Good Bauhaus models and interesting Naval ones too. Sinn apparently moved a notch up in prices and has extended their catalog to more tacticooltoolwatches.

On the French side of things, Baltic and Yema have some cool models this year especially in the dive/sort aisle.

I'm thinking if streaming my collection (ideally from 10 to 5... Excluding any potential addition I might do in 2021, but only a couple at best) and probably only keep one diving watch, not sure I want to add anymore to that for the little swimming I do currently. Same with flieger watches, on reflection, I love them but already have one chronograph in that style. The Longines Spirit design wise is polished enough to be more polyvalent style wise... Will try to gift to family and close friends a handful of clocks even though they're not watch heads.

Lots of futile ponderings without budget.
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Post by: VomKriege on December 16, 2020, 07:28:11 AM
https://monochrome-watches.com/oris-big-crown-pointer-date-40mm-oxblood-red-dial-review-price/ (https://monochrome-watches.com/oris-big-crown-pointer-date-40mm-oxblood-red-dial-review-price/)

Dat red :lawd
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Post by: VomKriege on December 16, 2020, 11:13:09 AM
Looking at Certina, Swiss brand (now Swatch owned) in looking for high accuracy quartz watch. Interesting brand in the 500 to 1000€ range. Not as classy as Longines as Oris but certainly a lot palatable to the wallet. The automatic range is also fairly affordable for Swiss branding.
The house has some history and at least one patented technology they fathered (double security).

Like this model, +/-10 sec a year (not as good as the Longines VHP but good enough), 100m water resistance and the color scheme is to my taste but not too bland. 500FrS so probably something similar in euros and dollars.
(https://i.imgur.com/qbp6uGd.jpg)
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Post by: VomKriege on December 16, 2020, 11:59:47 AM
Not one for the G-Shock style but this one I could see wearing. Way big tho.

https://youtu.be/zk304pjZTyo
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Post by: VomKriege on December 16, 2020, 12:39:09 PM
Damn those Casio GBD-H1000 are crazy too. All digital.
Title: Re: Bore thread of pointless jewelry masquerading as useful : Watches.
Post by: VomKriege on December 16, 2020, 01:56:47 PM
Ramblings of a madman continued : The Casio Oceanus line has a new collab with Briefing (different model). I still love the colour scheme though in actuality I don't really need the complications. It's also probably a 1500€ watch all told so really beyond the budget I could hope (or at the very upper limit...). Comes with another strap and a pouch which is nice but...

https://oceanus.casio.jp/briefing/ (https://oceanus.casio.jp/briefing/)

(https://i.imgur.com/HfCXjdT.jpg)

They also have a bunch of "Indigo" limited editions :
https://oceanus.casio.jp/collection/aizome/ (https://oceanus.casio.jp/collection/aizome/)
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Post by: VomKriege on December 16, 2020, 02:17:25 PM
So to keep track of my own wishlist at the moment...

High Accuracy Quartz :
Citizen Chronomaster
Longines Conquest VHP
Certina (DS2)

Radio / Satellite :
Casio Oceanus Briefing
Citizen Promaster Land CC3067-11L
Casio G-Shock ?
Casio Oceanus OCW-S100B-1AJF

Solar Quartz :
Citizen Promaster Land Tough

Automatic :
Longines Spirit 40mm
One of the Longines Heritage models ?
Oris Big Crown Date-Hand 40mm
Laco Flieger ?
Orient Star Outdoor
Orient Star Date Grey
Orient Flight II
Orient Sentinel FAC05002D0
Orient Bambino IV Grey/Copper

Edit :
Damn Citizen Attesa is also a good line.  :stahp
I keep saying the name but I didn't look into the line and damn... It's the best looking satellite watches currently. Especially in black Super Titanium. Apparently 43,5mm so actually a little less in your face than the Promaster or the Seiko Astrons

https://youtu.be/-gK-NGbkC0M

2500€  :dead

This model is less busy but has an interesting assymetry. Orange accents also are a nice touch :
https://citizen.jp/s/product/attesa/lineup/detail/index.html?seihin_no=CC3085-51E (https://citizen.jp/s/product/attesa/lineup/detail/index.html?seihin_no=CC3085-51E)

Also nice radio controlled models. This one especially, which has angular links and the Citizen trident second counterweight :
https://citizen.jp/s/product/attesa/lineup/detail/index.html?seihin_no=CB3015-53E (https://citizen.jp/s/product/attesa/lineup/detail/index.html?seihin_no=CB3015-53E)

Or this one, though I prefer the one with not all the yellow markings :
https://youtu.be/3Smuo2YQMpA

Jounetsu edition :
(https://i.imgur.com/2YR5A2z.jpg)

 :mouf
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Post by: VomKriege on December 16, 2020, 05:56:32 PM
Fuck they also have a cool series to commemorate their Titanium technology. Releases in January.

https://citizen.jp/titaniumtechnology50th/product-cosmicblue/index.html (https://citizen.jp/titaniumtechnology50th/product-cosmicblue/index.html)

https://youtu.be/12D6FWgdjkQ

Fuck I like these too :
https://citizen.jp/s/product/promaster/lineup/detail/index.html?seihin_no=CB0177-31E (https://citizen.jp/s/product/promaster/lineup/detail/index.html?seihin_no=CB0177-31E)

JDM HELL
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Post by: VomKriege on December 17, 2020, 07:42:42 AM
So my head is spinning from all the wristwatch procastination I did last few weeks but realistically if I buy something I'll probably be limited to a Japanese watch under 1k. One thing I always really wanted is a black plated watch so I think that's where I'll end most probably...

I already listed a bunch but I also really like this variation of the Citizen x MontBell

https://citizen.jp/s/product/promaster/lineup/detail/index.html?seihin_no=CB0177-58E (https://citizen.jp/s/product/promaster/lineup/detail/index.html?seihin_no=CB0177-58E)

Full black plated titanium band. I could live with the leather one (titanium strap is a 35% premium...) but you know.

I like that it's more of a field watch and there's a few plusses compared to the Attesa ligne, a decorated crown, an actual push button (not just a recessed one) for the radio control function, screw down crown and 200m water resistance so that's something you can wear in most circumstances. Red accents on black is always a soft spot for me and you have the Citizen trident counterweight of the seconds hands (I think it looks good and they should include this more often).
I'm a bit :larry on the branding. But it's a collab watch... I like it as is, but it's a bit massive and in your face (not exactly a subtle slogan).

I like the simpler Attesa but it's maybe too close to the Oceanus I own and Casio has another three handers that is maybe slightly cheaper. The red and stars dial are cool but I would dear it's a bit gaudy beyond the novelty.
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Post by: VomKriege on December 18, 2020, 07:29:24 AM
https://youtu.be/IL7YFpLv7SQ
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Post by: VomKriege on December 18, 2020, 09:53:45 AM
https://youtu.be/WhxcpDuNiN4

Another form of Japanese Pron.
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Post by: VomKriege on December 19, 2020, 06:19:27 AM
 :birb

https://youtu.be/mqqo9aWo6m8
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Post by: VomKriege on December 21, 2020, 06:13:23 AM
Seiko has a 50th anniversary for the Astron (Then the first commercially available quartz watch, now their GPS solar line).

https://www.seikowatches.com/global-en/products/astron/special/50th_35sq/ (https://www.seikowatches.com/global-en/products/astron/special/50th_35sq/)

Only 50 pieces...
But the interesting part for me is that the watch is 41mm (?) and that there's a new caliber (3x22) that may signal smaller GPS watches. So far I believe they're all 43mm or higher.

So maybe 2021 will have interesting new models in the satellite watch department.
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Post by: VomKriege on December 21, 2020, 06:38:33 AM
https://youtu.be/oQJp3qZzwcQ
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Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on April 01, 2021, 11:09:59 AM
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0493/1293/products/DSC_5752-Edit_1400x2200.jpg?v=1617249370)


https://www.eone-time.com/products/bradley-moss?_ke=eyJrbF9jb21wYW55X2lkIjogIlN6QjZzQSIsICJrbF9lbWFpbCI6ICJqaW1hdmlsYUBnbWFpbC5jb20ifQ%3D%3D