Rise:
What do you think about the current thing where some people treat being trans as a social thing and not a medical thing? Apparently I'm truscum :doge because I think being trans requires having gender dysphoria. When did this social thing even start? Are they people who jumped on our bandwagon after the Laverne Cox Time cover and don't want to transition medically because they know they'd crack? Having dysphoria and not taking hormones? Ok. It'll be hard, but hey. Your choice. Some can't. But not having dysphoria and claiming to be trans? What is this? How are they trans? It's like claiming to be gay when you don't like the same sex. Where did this shit start?
There's lots of good trans Facebook groups btw, for people who hate the mainstream "community" like we do.
It's dumb and one of the reasons I moved away from the :doge community :doge Pandering to those people who treat it like a literal lifestyle choice (remember when "lifestyle choice" was just conservative nonsense and not something that people actually treated transitioning as?) undermines the entire thing. I have no idea what motivates these people who aren't dysphoric but see themselves as trans. I dunno if it's like a fetish thing for them and they watched too much sissy hypno porn or if it just seems like a trendy thing to do because of internet leftism stuff.
Dysphoria is the defining trait of being trans, and that's a pretty definite line. Proud truscum :doge
Rise:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1808936189122153
Join us, fellow truscum. :doge
A quote to show that you are welcome.
Quotetrans woman: yeah it would be great if we could have insurance cover our medically necessary treatments and close the loophole that allows men to get off the hook for murdering us based on our trans status (in 48 / 50 states)
genderqueer: no, we need all the resources we can get so we can put zir and xe on our birth certificates
trans woman: ...
genderqueer: fucking gatekeeping truscum TERF!! 😤😤😭😭
(https://i.imgur.com/xg8pCrr.jpg?1)Quote>puts on lipstick+5oclock shadow
>I'm NB now
:lol
We fought for our literal lives to have people like this represent us, girl.
(https://i.imgur.com/xRIeno6.jpg)
Just looking at him sends me on edge. Look at this fucking shit. :yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck
And now when people have this trender fuck on shows who don't know or understand what trans is, they'll see this fuck in a dress claiming to speak for us.
But nah, we're the bad people for calling a spade a spade.
Himu, you need to chill and realize you're coming off as some stereotypical anti-LGBT conservative christian when you say shit like that, especially with the whole 'I'm disgusted by their physical appearance' and 'calling a spade a spade' bits, about someone who's under the LGBTQA+ banner and has just as real problems. :doge
I come off like a conservative Christian? Um. No.
I and others sure as fuck did not transition to have some dude in a dress claim to share our identity when people claim we are just men in dresses.
Let them make their own acronym. Fine. Be part of the LGBT. But don't call yourself trans. Pretty fucking simple to me. Add a G for genderqueer or whatever.
Conservative Christian my ass.
There's an A in LGBTBBQ now? Good Lord. I wonder which that one is.
I don't understand why you're so aggressive about this sort of stuff. Your oppression doesn't mean others aren't allowed to benefit from the hard work to spread representation and equality. The more people are allowed to express who they are, the better. It shouldn't matter if they do or do not neatly fit into a narrow view of what should or shouldn't be.
It's same kind of rhetoric that denies your existence.
No, the rhetoric that denies my existence bases itself on stereotypes from tv shows like South Park that we are pretending, that we are performing, that we are men in dresses and then some leftover fuck stain comes in identifying as trans who thinks all gender is performative, while wearing lipstick, a dress, and a 5 o clock while speaking for me when we represent two total fucking opposites.
They have my support to live out the way they want but they aren't trans. This person is not trans, and let the record show that we are nothing alike.
I disagree. I have many trans friends that share Queen's views and hate that kind of stuff and feel it pushes them backwards. And none of them are remotely close to christian.
You misunderstand: What I mean is where is that line of "dysphoria" for trans? For some folks, cross-dressing/drag is the limit of their dysphoria and most folks wouldn't consider that non-binary. For others, it's doing their nails, (possibly) shaving, lipstick, and the like. These folks see themselves as "non-binary" because they cross traditional gender roles. Some of them may want to transition later in life or not.
It's a "fuzzy" line, is what I'm getting at.
I believe the correct acronym these days is LGBTQIAA+ :snob
I'm moon gendered sometimes water gendered just so you all know.Are you an elf? :ohhh
Considering going into sex work soon for the cash. :-\ I decided a long time ago that if i ever had to resort to that I'd stick to camming because I don't want some client to murder me.
Good to have a BBQ thread!Yeah man, I kinda wanted to get into BBQing this past summer but the other tenants always had their damn stupid kids running around all over the place unsupervised. There was eventually a email sent out saying to watch yr damn kids and not leave shit lying around all over the common are so next year I'ma go for it.
I've been thinking of getting a smoker. Anyone have a Big Green Egg or anything similar?
I'm moon gendered sometimes water gendered just so you all know.Moon rules #1. :sheik
Considering going into sex work soon for the cash. :-\ I decided a long time ago that if i ever had to resort to that I'd stick to camming because I don't want some client to murder me.
Make it 15 and you've got yourself a deal.Considering going into sex work soon for the cash. :-\ I decided a long time ago that if i ever had to resort to that I'd stick to camming because I don't want some client to murder me.
20 bucks to rosebud yourself over skype right now.
My bestfriend (cis tho) was poor as fuck and struggled with money so she got into camming, earned shittons for a bit, but it's been backfiring even 10 years later. Twice when she got a new boyfriend they (or their friends) have run into her old videos and recognized her. One of them threatened to tell/show her dad and stuff when they were fighting. She's still worried about it being seen by someone even though it was so long ago. Really not worth it.
There is probably no other work you could do in America that would get you murdered (or damn close) faster than being a trans poc sex worker.Considering going into sex work soon for the cash. :-\ I decided a long time ago that if i ever had to resort to that I'd stick to camming because I don't want some client to murder me.
I highly doubt anyone would murder you.
There is probably no other work you could do in America that would get you murdered (or damn close) faster than being a trans poc sex worker.Considering going into sex work soon for the cash. :-\ I decided a long time ago that if i ever had to resort to that I'd stick to camming because I don't want some client to murder me.
I highly doubt anyone would murder you.
Camming is only degrading and shameful if you view it that way. And if you do, yeah you really shouldn't do itSeriously?
Honestly though, I think saying "you shouldn't have to degrade yourself like that" is pretty well bullshit. It's a legitimate profession for tons of people. It's pretty much in line with slut shaming or whatever. If anyone feels comfortable meeting the huge market demand for that kind of thing, I don't think they should be derided for it. Queen saying resort to it, and knowing her Christian values, yeah I wouldn't really recommend it for her but the shaming "you're better than that" -- that don't sit well with me.spoiler (click to show/hide):trigger[close]
Camming is only degrading and shameful if you view it that way. And if you do, yeah you really shouldn't do itSeriously?
Honestly though, I think saying "you shouldn't have to degrade yourself like that" is pretty well bullshit. It's a legitimate profession for tons of people. It's pretty much in line with slut shaming or whatever. If anyone feels comfortable meeting the huge market demand for that kind of thing, I don't think they should be derided for it. Queen saying resort to it, and knowing her Christian values, yeah I wouldn't really recommend it for her but the shaming "you're better than that" -- that don't sit well with me.spoiler (click to show/hide):trigger[close]
Camming is only degrading and shameful if you view it that way. And if you do, yeah you really shouldn't do itSeriously?
Honestly though, I think saying "you shouldn't have to degrade yourself like that" is pretty well bullshit. It's a legitimate profession for tons of people. It's pretty much in line with slut shaming or whatever. If anyone feels comfortable meeting the huge market demand for that kind of thing, I don't think they should be derided for it. Queen saying resort to it, and knowing her Christian values, yeah I wouldn't really recommend it for her but the shaming "you're better than that" -- that don't sit well with me.spoiler (click to show/hide):trigger[close]
Yes.
Considering going into sex work soon for the cash. :-\ I decided a long time ago that if i ever had to resort to that I'd stick to camming because I don't want some client to murder me.
https://www.salon.com/2017/10/05/trans-protections-civil-rights-act/
Welp! Can't wait to be a hooker. :-*
We'll be re-posting the video of Adrienne Smith talking about the use of gender pronouns soon--but we'll have to turn the comments off. A whole bunch of ignorant and hateful posts trolled our page and rather than comb through the hate we've deleted the original post. To anyone who commented supportively (or neutrally, or even respectfully in opposition (ok there weren't any of those, but theoretically it's possible)) our apologies for deleting your comment as well.
We've got a long, long way to go together.
We'll be re-posting the video of Adrienne Smith talking about the use of gender pronouns soon--but we'll have to turn the comments off. A whole bunch of literal Nazis swamped our page and rather than comb through the hate we've deleted the original post. To anyone who commented supportively (or neutrally, or even respectfully in opposition (ok there weren't any of those, but theoretically it's possible)) our apologies for deleting your comment as well.:lol
We've got a long, long way to go together, judging from the knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing swarm of bigots that flocked to our post.
I love you 2000+ gays who grew up with Glee and Milo and think being gay is like being in an episode of modern family and pride parades aren't needed.
I love you 2000+ gays who grew up with Glee and Milo and think being gay is like being in an episode of modern family and pride parades aren't needed.
pm me after ive had a few in a few hours
The ideology/philosophy thing is dumb to me. All I care about is medical transition and attracting hard ass dick so I don't die alone.Oh :fbm well I’ll fuck off then since that’s all I really think about and sex isn’t even on the top 10,000 things I want in my life rn. Pretty sure I’m foreveralone and I’m okay with that. Sex is groce and most people are obnoxious before too long
imho, there’s no such thing as “passing” trans people. You can post all the qt instatrannies with their clinically precise camera angles and cosmetic execution and never convince me, because irl every trans person has a tell. The shoulders, the height, the hair, the voice, the skull, the hands, there’s always SOMETHING, and it brands you. You may have people in your life that seem to treat you “as cis” but they see the tells. They just don’t care. But they see them. Everyone who looks or listens will see them. This is why I identify, simply, as “trans”. You don’t have to worry about getting clocked when you clock yourself :rollsafeno offense but this is like the most hon/brick thing i've read all year. So far down the rabbit hole that you've convinced yourself passing doesn't exist.
Maybe I'm pushing a little too far but I feel like some people have agp buyer's remorse when they don't transition into an ideal sexual fantasy.:kobeyuck
Ah. So all trans women are men deep down, but no that's not self deprecating. :confusedI didn’t mean “trans women aka men” I meant “trans women or trans men”. I thought you might blow up on me for that but I hoped you wouldn’t. Alas, here we are tugging each other’s tits over semantics like not a day has passed since the last time we did this years ago. My how quickly my attempt at a philosophical discussion got railroaded into ad hom and shitposting. Some things never change :uguu
We got your point. I told flat out that you sound like you hate yourself. You say being called sir doesn't bother you while you're saying stuff that ultimately argues that we are men in the long run so it doesn't matter what you to do.
Yeah the “no-pass” thing isn’t to excuse my own ass. I just genuinely have never met or seen a “passing” trans woman or man. Male bodied human beings, no matter how early the transition, are exposed to so much HGH through adolescence to adulthood that their skeletal structure ends up far outside of the standard deviation for the opposite sex, barring genetic outliers. The lack of HGH exposure has a similar but opposite effect for female bodied people.Not everyone goes through puberty the same way lol. I'm not saying everyone can pass; that's just as nonsensical as saying nobody passes. But I do think that the chances of passing are pretty okay as long as you aren't built like a linebacker as long as you accept some flaws.
/autism
Y’all keep bringing up the “cis women look manly too!” cliché and it makes me feel like you’re just throwing canned replies at me instead of even considering what I’m saying. I’m not talking about the shit on the surface. Hormones and SRS isn’t going to give you narrow shoulders, tilt your pelvis, or shrink your skull. Archeologists have been identifying the sex of sapien fossil remains using nothing but bones for decades. You think maternity clothes and MAC will fix that shit?
:confusedI genuinely didn’t say that but keep saying I did sis, it’s cute :-*
What
You expect to be able to say trans women are men and not get called out about and say it's "semantics"?
:neogaf
Philosophical discussion? Philosophical discussions are about disagreements and just talking about. Rise and I have been talking with you and saying why we think you are wrong. That is very much a philosophical discussion.Yup, prognosticating about my apparenty latent self-hatred is purely philosophical banter :whew
Yeah the “no-pass” thing isn’t to excuse my own ass. I just genuinely have never met or seen a “passing” trans woman or man. Male bodied human beings, no matter how early the transition, are exposed to so much HGH through adolescence to adulthood that their skeletal structure ends up far outside of the standard deviation for the opposite sex, barring genetic outliers. The lack of HGH exposure has a similar but opposite effect for female bodied people.Not everyone goes through puberty the same way lol. I'm not saying everyone can pass; that's just as nonsensical as saying nobody passes. But I do think that the chances of passing are pretty okay as long as you aren't built like a linebacker as long as you accept some flaws.
/autism
Y’all keep bringing up the “cis women look manly too!” cliché and it makes me feel like you’re just throwing canned replies at me instead of even considering what I’m saying. I’m not talking about the shit on the surface. Hormones and SRS isn’t going to give you narrow shoulders, tilt your pelvis, or shrink your skull. Archeologists have been identifying the sex of sapien fossil remains using nothing but bones for decades. You think maternity clothes and MAC will fix that shit?
Maybe I'm optimistic cause I hit the genetic lottery for transitioning idk. I started at late 19 and I was 5' 3" with a tiny body. But I'm also going off what I've seen other people experience too. Voice is the much bigger barrier to passing than body stuff for people who put the work in.
:confusedI genuinely didn’t say that but keep saying I did sis, it’s cute :-*
What
You expect to be able to say trans women are men and not get called out about and say it's "semantics"?
:neogaf
Hormones and SRS isn’t going to give you narrow shoulders, tilt your pelvis, or shrink your skull. Archeologists have been identifying the sex of sapien fossil remains using nothing but bones for decades. You think maternity clothes and MAC will fix that shit?
male bodied human beings...
being a manlet can pay off sometimes :philYeah the “no-pass” thing isn’t to excuse my own ass. I just genuinely have never met or seen a “passing” trans woman or man. Male bodied human beings, no matter how early the transition, are exposed to so much HGH through adolescence to adulthood that their skeletal structure ends up far outside of the standard deviation for the opposite sex, barring genetic outliers. The lack of HGH exposure has a similar but opposite effect for female bodied people.Not everyone goes through puberty the same way lol. I'm not saying everyone can pass; that's just as nonsensical as saying nobody passes. But I do think that the chances of passing are pretty okay as long as you aren't built like a linebacker as long as you accept some flaws.
/autism
Y’all keep bringing up the “cis women look manly too!” cliché and it makes me feel like you’re just throwing canned replies at me instead of even considering what I’m saying. I’m not talking about the shit on the surface. Hormones and SRS isn’t going to give you narrow shoulders, tilt your pelvis, or shrink your skull. Archeologists have been identifying the sex of sapien fossil remains using nothing but bones for decades. You think maternity clothes and MAC will fix that shit?
Maybe I'm optimistic cause I hit the genetic lottery for transitioning idk. I started at late 19 and I was 5' 3" with a tiny body. But I'm also going off what I've seen other people experience too. Voice is the much bigger barrier to passing than body stuff for people who put the work in.
I was 5'5 and had wide hips and small shoulders. :rejoice
Voice and mannerisms seem like 60% of the deal. You might not be pretty but you'll pass if you can do these things. Dat elbow tuck walk. :lawd
male bodied human beings...Is a term I picked up from my female bodied doctor who specializes in transgender health care. what a bitch she is, amirite?
And frankly, the term has become so mangled that it just just be LGBT at this point. Asexuals are Asexuals. They aren't really being excluded removing them from it.
https://www.themarysue.com/decoding-the-transgender-matrix-the-matrix-as-a-transgender-coming-out-story/
yay/nay? :thinking
My rewatch of The Matrix was done through a critical transgender lens that confirms that the movie is all about coming out as transgender in society and how society reacts.
Oh my God. It took me way too long to realise that the BBQ stands for barbecue and not in fact something-something-queer.
Cindi Mayweather (and I guess everyone who changes usernames like they change underwear) if we call you by your previous usernames, is that like deadnaming you, or do you not really care? I ask particularly of you Cindi, because Himu was from before you transitioned, so you might consider it tied to your old male identity? And I don't want to upset you or anything.
re: “why bother being exclusionary?”
Here is why I think we need to separate transsexualism, the medical condition, from “transgender” identity politics. I think there is a cultural phenomenon happening where people people want to describe all of the minutiae of their experience of gender and sexuality with a new label or set of labels. And none of these labels have any set meaning, anyone can claim them for any reason and no one is allowed to question how they choose to "identify." And honestly? That's totally fine. Dismantle gender conventions, rock n roll, etc.
Transsexualism, on the other hand, absolutely does have a specific definition, defined symptoms, and even neural and genetic biomarkers associated with it.
The big conflict is that these groups of people have drastically different needs. Transsexuals need lifesaving treatment, which we are routinely denied by insurers. We also need legal protections from discrimination (it is still legal in most US states to use a woman's trans status to get off the hook for murdering her). Beyond that, the goal for most of us is just to live a normal life as the sex we know ourselves to be.
Meanwhile, the diverse concerns of the gender identity community include advocating for increased visibility, increased representation of diverse modes of gender expression, normalizing of neopronouns, etc. Their experience of "transness" is not as a debilitating medical condition, but rather as a sociocultural / political ideology.
They are essentially gender anarchists / radicals, whereas we transsexuals are gender conformists.
I think we need to divorce these two movements. Our needs are fundamentally different in a way that can't be served well united under a single banner, "transgender." Transsexuals desperately need increased access to lifesaving care and legal protection. We are frustrated by the feeling that the gender identity community is jacking the mic by identifying as trans to gain credibility and visibility but then using that platform to push for their queer political platform. Meanwhile, they also feel that their self-identifications are threatened by transsexuals who point out that our experience of transness is fundamentally different. We're made into pariahs for this unacceptable act of 'gatekeeping.' They’ve effectively force-teamed themselves with us only to be able to kick us off the team if we don’t accept their queer politics agenda.
Honestly imo, they can have ‘transgender.’ I’m super sick of having this debate. But by demedicalizing transness, they are putting our access to hormones and surgeries at risk. If someone can just decide to be trans, if there’s no diagnosable medical basis for it, then why /should/ insurers be required to cover it?
Serious question not to be taken lightly.
I personally could never date or be with a Trans women, yet I still support their human rights and ability to be who they truly are. Is this still a fundamental rejection of trans rights or can I still support them and their issues and not come off as a hypocrite? I mean I am denying a trans women she is a women by the very act of not considering her a "true" women.
Any and all response are welcome, provided you attempt to take this post as seriously as possible Benji :doge
Serious question not to be taken lightly.
I personally could never date or be with a Trans women, yet I still support their human rights and ability to be who they truly are. Is this still a fundamental rejection of trans rights or can I still support them and their issues and not come off as a hypocrite? I mean I am denying a trans women she is a women by the very act of not considering her a "true" women.
Any and all response are welcome, provided you attempt to take this post as seriously as possible Benji :doge
Seems fine to me. People who say you're transphobic because you aren't attracted to trans women are full of shit so long as it's not operating on a "you're not a true woman" thing. It's pretty normal to have genital preferences. I like dick. And although I'm open to dating a trans man, my first pick will always be a man with a cock. I don't say,"trans men aren't men" because of that preference tho. That's a ridiculous statement.
There no limit on the community threads right? So if someone wanted a gay and gay only thread he could do that right? So if anyone wants to do that I would love to join that community.
There's like 3 gay dudes on this forum. Enjoy your dead community thread.
wat. is that really a thing?
QuoteThere's like 3 gay dudes on this forum. Enjoy your dead community thread.
I love dead things.
But hey I figure gay guys could be incentivized to be more active if they weren't repelled by the queers, like I am.
wat. is that really a thing?
There were one or two gay GAFFers who got dogpiled and lepered by the LGBT thread for suggesting a "gay men only" thread. He said he couldn't really relate much to Lesbians.
Honestly I kinda sorta get it. r/LGBT is basically r/T most days for example. And sometimes you just want to post about Christ Pratt or some dude and have "bro-talk" without other subject matter.
QuoteThere's like 3 gay dudes on this forum. Enjoy your dead community thread.
I love dead things.
But hey I figure gay guys could be incentivized to be more active if they weren't repelled by the queers, like I am.
I don't like the queers either. Post your gay shit IMO.wat. is that really a thing?
There were one or two gay GAFFers who got dogpiled and lepered by the LGBT thread for suggesting a "gay men only" thread. He said he couldn't really relate much to Lesbians.
Honestly I kinda sorta get it. r/LGBT is basically r/T most days for example. And sometimes you just want to post about Christ Pratt or some dude and have "bro-talk" without other subject matter.
In my experience any LGBT space is mostly about gay men and gay men only so I'm kinda shocked. The LGBT thread at gaf being a great example. It's mostly just gay and bi dudes. In any case, I like men. So I don't see why you couldn't chat about men? Chris Pratt is okay.
Are any of you in relationships?
I'm not. I need cuddles! :(
"Hmm, someone else paints their nails..." *swipes on bald dude with painted nails, stray hairs sticking up in photos after that one* "Ugh... *swipe right*"
If you're gonna put yourself on the meat-market, at least making sure your stray-hairs from baldness doesn't turn people off. #Superficial
Are any of you in relationships?
I'm not. I need cuddles! :(
Yes. Older guy... like way older (12 years older). Meh. Met him at a board gaming group. Similar interests. Similar world views. I'm enjoying it, but I'll admit its a bit weird and if I had more confidence maybe we wouldn't be in a relationship. But I'm happy and not going to toss this away just to find something a bit more socially acceptable. Plus, the gay dating scene is scary. I ain't gonna jump back in.
Are any of you in relationships?
I'm not. I need cuddles! :(
Yes. Older guy... like way older (12 years older). Meh. Met him at a board gaming group. Similar interests. Similar world views. I'm enjoying it, but I'll admit its a bit weird and if I had more confidence maybe we wouldn't be in a relationship. But I'm happy and not going to toss this away just to find something a bit more socially acceptable. Plus, the gay dating scene is scary. I ain't gonna jump back in.
Seems fine. Do you love him?
Queers are those people with the purple hair and their stupid ideology shit. They're basically LGBT radicals who have hijacked the LGBT for their own personal shit like trying to "end gender" and other faggotry.
Queers are those people with the purple hair and their stupid ideology shit. They're basically LGBT radicals who have hijacked the LGBT for their own personal shit like trying to "end gender" and other faggotry.
Lol, i dont want to get into this discussion, but this is the most dismissive, reductive and cold comment on queer theory ive read. Liked.
wat. is that really a thing?
There were one or two gay GAFFers who got dogpiled and lepered by the LGBT thread for suggesting a "gay men only" thread. He said he couldn't really relate much to Lesbians.
Honestly I kinda sorta get it. r/LGBT is basically r/T most days for example. And sometimes you just want to post about Christ Pratt or some dude and have "bro-talk" without other subject matter.
I was nearly in something quite similar a few years back. Way older guy was into me and I kinda rolled with it for a while, I'm attracted to older guys, but idk I never felt comfortable with him.
Yes. Older guy... like way older (12 years older). Meh. Met him at a board gaming group. Similar interests. Similar world views. I'm enjoying it, but I'll admit its a bit weird and if I had more confidence maybe we wouldn't be in a relationship. But I'm happy and not going to toss this away just to find something a bit more socially acceptable. Plus, the gay dating scene is scary. I ain't gonna jump back in.
wat. is that really a thing?
There were one or two gay GAFFers who got dogpiled and lepered by the LGBT thread for suggesting a "gay men only" thread. He said he couldn't really relate much to Lesbians.
Honestly I kinda sorta get it. r/LGBT is basically r/T most days for example. And sometimes you just want to post about Christ Pratt or some dude and have "bro-talk" without other subject matter.
He got dog piled because Cindi is right: That thread is/was about 80% gay dudes. There is really no/little lesbian/women there.
Or bi or trans in that thread.Is the RE one the same? It seemed like it when I popped my head in for a minute.
wat. is that really a thing?
There were one or two gay GAFFers who got dogpiled and lepered by the LGBT thread for suggesting a "gay men only" thread. He said he couldn't really relate much to Lesbians.
Honestly I kinda sorta get it. r/LGBT is basically r/T most days for example. And sometimes you just want to post about Christ Pratt or some dude and have "bro-talk" without other subject matter.
He got dog piled because Cindi is right: That thread is/was about 80% gay dudes. There is really no/little lesbian/women there.
Or bi or trans in that thread.
Emphasis on bi men
There no limit on the community threads right? So if someone wanted a gay and gay only thread he could do that right? So if anyone wants to do that I would love to join that community.
There no limit on the community threads right? So if someone wanted a gay and gay only thread he could do that right? So if anyone wants to do that I would love to join that community.
do the community a favor and off yourself lmao
There no limit on the community threads right? So if someone wanted a gay and gay only thread he could do that right? So if anyone wants to do that I would love to join that community.
do the community a favor and off yourself lmao
Damn yo I decide to check thebore just now and told to kill myself. I thought this would be the reaction I got about wanting a gay only community, which would include solidarity with lesbians obvi. The “community” makes absolutely no sense, all non gay people are anti gay. Only gay men and lesbians have anything in common I have no idea why I’m expected to care about the rest of you. I thought it would cool to have a place to talk with other gay people without transes talking about gay people having disgusting genital fetishes that we need to accept the lady dick or man pussy. Without bis whining about not being seen as queer when they’re in straight relationships and just being horrible to gay people and wondering why don’t gay people want to be around them. I don’t mean you sai I mean all of your ilk. Most gay men and lesbians have bi horror stories. The reputation bis got among gay people is well earned.
You never should have been included, honestly I don’t why the mistakes of the gay community of America in the 80s should continue to haunt gay people now. Frankly I hate the rest of you, you all say such horrible shit about gay people. So bifilth do gay people a solid after you get caught cheating on your wife with a man, behind your white picket fence, while your 2.5 children play in the yard, don’t hesitate to blow your brains out
That said I like it here, mainly because I don’t feel the need to pretend I give a shit about the trials and tribulations of irritating dipshits Im expected to care about just cause I’m gay. And curiosity are there any lesbians here? I found a wonderful group of lesbians and gay men on tumblr and I’d like to keep the good gay train going.
Oh and Reddit still has “gay” trans men and bis married to women so that’s a shit hole like everywhere it’s seems. Hmm thems the breaks I guess, oh well
Hmm why do all of you BTQs have the same typing patterns. Like the whole luh maw thing and attempts at being condescending. You ever whine about gate keeping?
And honestly Cindi Mayweather you seem cool, I was surprised that there are trans people that don’t think conversion therapy is a good thing.
I don't get it are HardcoreRetro part of the whiner non gays or not, I know sai is. You can pretend you don't know what I'm talking about but all gay people see what is happening whether the bis see it or not.
The mainstream lgbtbbq crap is that gay people need to be love the opposite sex, like you can pretend you don't know what I'm talking about but I know bi people believe that gay people are restrictive for no reason.
Hey did you know that bis have influenced conversion therapy? Bi always say hearts not part and now conversion therapist are picking on your vileness. Its called SAFE-T "sexual attraction fluidity exploration in therapy". See the fruits of bi labour here http://anglicanmainstream.org/sexual-attraction-fluidity-exploration-in-therapy-safe-t/
So bi filth read it and weep, I know all bis don't care about gay people but if any lesbian comes across this they will know that gay men got their back.
Can you please not be shit on bi people?
i love drag race and need to catch up
God I hope LaGanja is on All Stars 3, house of edwards all day :tonguepop
I’m pretty sure her meltdown on her season can be directly shown to be from marijuana withdrawals
Hopefully kim chi isn't bad at drag beyond makeup/art skills still
I really wish all seasons of Drag Race were available on digital stores. :doge
TVC: Nah, IIRC All-Stars Season 1 and season 2-5 aren't available either.
So she just came off badly on drag race?
TVC: Nah, IIRC All-Stars Season 1 and season 2-5 aren't available either.
They're for sale on Amazon. Do you live outside 'merica or something?
i miss phil-x
i miss phil-x
hang around with skinhead biker gangs and get HIV due to low-key bugchasing, brehs
winik please post if ur okay
Where I diverge from transes and bis is that they think that man loving dick exclusively is a horrible thing that needs to be eradicated.
There's nothing wrong with this. Jesus Christ, you're delirious.
Winnk says gay men are oppressed in the lgbt community and told that it's bad to be gay because liking exclusively one sex is bad. He says this is mainstream and I have literally no idea what he's talking about.
why do I always have to be lumped in with the non gays
excuse? fucker please
I just does no other gay person view the "community" the same way as me??? well they do obvi thats why im here but like jesus yall are dumb as shit the LGBTLWDBQIOWUG community would see you killed before they believe being gay is natural and acceptable.
you cunts
The whole gay people need to be fixed is apart of trans activism. Even if there are trans people like cindi mayweather the main thrust is that gay men and woman need to consider the opposite sex as date able. fuck you dumb pieces of shit fuck
Gay men you want pussy? lesbians you want dick? if you say no then transpacific teehehehehe. fuck
seriously bi people already love the opposite sex that why they view conversion therapy as good, holy shit dudes. The BT want us to be tortured into straight relationships.
GUNT
im not a troll tbh i just love being caustic
I just feel like if you spend all this time on estrogen supplements and learning to act like a chick just to end up dating a man with a pussy and a 1 inch clit on testosterone, what was the fucking point of it all?
I just feel like if you spend all this time on estrogen supplements and learning to act like a chick just to end up dating a man with a pussy and a 1 inch clit on testosterone, what was the fucking point of it all?
you should make a topic just for gay male autists :) you'd have half the forum in there in no time
This seems more like a burn on thebore community than me, but I hope you die sai.
They may not say it like that but these people think sexuality is all about gender, so because I like men this must mean all men, as in transmen. And if I say no me love the cock this transphobic, reducing people to their genitals because people are more than that and if a transman is my type and a person I like I must chow down on that pussy. Because why other than transphobia would I reject a man who is exactly what I want but doesn't have to the genitals I "prefer". The preference shit kills me too, I don't prefer dick I need it. Have you never seen that idea expressed? Maybe not the exact wording but like the idea people need to see beyond the dick/pussy and see the person. Because that's basically what that is, its objectifying or shallow what ever they say and gay people need to examine why we don't want man pussy, lady dick.
seriously bi people already love the opposite sex that why they view conversion therapy as good, holy shit dudes.
What are your opinions of prostitution, winik?
I don’t get itYou're being compared to this person:
What interracial relationship?
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What interracial relationship?
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I never said nor claimed these cases are trans. They are merely examples of people who are impacted by birth and gender identity. That's all. My point was not that they are trans at all. My point is that claiming "trans women are not women because they have XX chromosomes" does not stand to scrutiny given the evidence that we have clear cut cases of exactly the fucking opposite. Clearly, chromosomes are not all someone needs to be measured as a man or a woman. Therefore, deducing trans women to chromosomes is just bad argumentation. Because if one case gets an exception, other cases get exceptions.
And that's where you and science disagree. Just because there's a .0001% chance of a mutation does not mean that biologically and on the DNA level that they are female. That one case that you posted about having an XY DNA structure while having the body of a female is super super super super rare to where it does not make the "science" of biology moot. There's corner-cases in everything that doesn't make the scientific method invalid.
Like I said, thinking that rare case is a valid case that "transgenders trump biology" is messy thinking. I'm all for considering someone that transitition'd their "new" gender, but on the biological level they still have the XY/XX designation they had on birth which they can not change. Unless science and gene/body modifications suddenly blows up to where you can get that assigned designation, you're still your "original" gender at the base level.Assimilate and Cindi should just hatefuck already and get it out of their system.
:yeshrug Can't disagree on that.
Today on racist TIMU™ posts about the black/PoC gay community™:
https://twitter.com/Travon/status/943889938248077312
https://twitter.com/RickyJMarc/status/943892371401568257
https://twitter.com/AnnaVanValin/status/943919618946580481
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https://twitter.com/TDUN1/status/943945040275169280
:dead :deadspoiler (click to show/hide)Am I posting these to hide my racism, or do I just hate black antagonism toward whites that they could win over with other methods?
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i wonder if winik ever killed themselves
Non bonaries are fucking stupid. Like Christ what is freer that there are two sexes and that’s it or there are unlimited genders so you must be one. Queers are still scum so like fuck em. And I’m late as fuck but I just got to say the andi dier situation is such a disgusting and perfect microcosm of trans activism its nuts. A racist rapist pedophile screams at Rose McGowan about white cis feminism.god
Hell Rapey J Penis is still a thing and he still thinks lesbians must love dick so…
Hey did you know using two spirit while not native is racist as fuck?
forgot to say ive been watching all stars and chichi disappointed me.
Might be going to this tonight. I’m expecting a lot of shade targeted at Thorgy Thor.
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god
gay people are so fuckin weird lmao
shout outs to winik. hope ur still fighting the distinguished mentally-challenged fellow fight.