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Title: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on September 19, 2017, 04:48:58 PM
OP edit made 1/13/2018: So I owe a massive apology for a lot of the things I've said not only in this post but also this thread at large. I have sinned greatly by the hurtful language and division I've written. I took a cause I legitimately feel is right and acted like a terrible person mocking people with it. I called non-binary people "fuck stain", called some of my lgbt brothers and sisters who identify as queer as participating in "faggotry". The things I've said have been awful and come from a place of insecurity. I'll be honest by saying I don't like the way the LGBT, and especially trans movements are going. I don't like participating in it and I don't like being a part of it, but that doesn't give me the right to shit on the actual people, which I have used my platform to do so. It was wrong, and I'm sorry. I hope anyone I have hurt can come to forgive me and hopefully try to guide me to being able to, even if I cannot accept their viewpoint, come to understand it without insulting it or the people who withhold it. In order for myself to repent for the division I've caused, I really need to lay off, stop talking, and just listen. Thank you for reading this. I won't erase or delete a single word I've said in this thread. It should be there to be seen because I will not hide who I am or capable of being, even if it's awful. It needs to be not hidden so people can impart a lesson from it.

I'm continuing this from the gaf thread.

Some context:

Quote from: Queen of Ice

Rise:

What do you think about the current thing where some people treat being trans as a social thing and not a medical thing? Apparently I'm truscum :doge because I think being trans requires having gender dysphoria. When did this social thing even start? Are they people who jumped on our bandwagon after the Laverne Cox Time cover and don't want to transition medically because they know they'd crack? Having dysphoria and not taking hormones? Ok. It'll be hard, but hey. Your choice. Some can't. But not having dysphoria and claiming to be trans? What is this? How are they trans? It's like claiming to be gay when you don't like the same sex. Where did this shit start?

There's lots of good trans Facebook groups btw, for people who hate the mainstream "community" like we do.

Quote from: Rise
It's dumb and one of the reasons I moved away from the  :doge community  :doge Pandering to those people who treat it like a literal lifestyle choice (remember when "lifestyle choice" was just conservative nonsense and not something that people actually treated transitioning as?) undermines the entire thing. I have no idea what motivates these people who aren't dysphoric but see themselves as trans. I dunno if it's like a fetish thing for them and they watched too much sissy hypno porn or if it just seems like a trendy thing to do because of internet leftism stuff.

Dysphoria is the defining trait of being trans, and that's a pretty definite line. Proud truscum  :doge

Quote from: Queen of Ice
Rise:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1808936189122153

Join us, fellow truscum. :doge

A quote to show that you are welcome.

   
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trans woman: yeah it would be great if we could have insurance cover our medically necessary treatments and close the loophole that allows men to get off the hook for murdering us based on our trans status (in 48 / 50 states)

    genderqueer: no, we need all the resources we can get so we can put zir and xe on our birth certificates

    trans woman: ...

    genderqueer: fucking gatekeeping truscum TERF!! 😤😤😭😭

(https://i.imgur.com/xg8pCrr.jpg?1)

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>puts on lipstick+5oclock shadow
    >I'm NB now

:lol

Quote from: Queen of Ice
We fought for our literal lives to have people like this represent us, girl.

(https://i.imgur.com/xRIeno6.jpg)

Just looking at him sends me on edge. Look at this fucking shit.  :yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck

And now when people have this trender fuck on shows who don't know or understand what trans is, they'll see this fuck in a dress claiming to speak for us.

But nah, we're the bad people for calling a spade a spade.

Quote from: 213372BU
Himu, you need to chill and realize you're coming off as some stereotypical anti-LGBT conservative christian when you say shit like that, especially with the whole 'I'm disgusted by their physical appearance' and 'calling a spade a spade' bits, about someone who's under the LGBTQA+ banner and has just as real problems. :doge

Quote from: Queen of Ice
I come off like a conservative Christian? Um. No.

I and others sure as fuck did not transition to have some dude in a dress claim to share our identity when people claim we are just men in dresses.

Let them make their own acronym. Fine. Be part of the LGBT. But don't call yourself trans. Pretty fucking simple to me. Add a G for genderqueer or whatever.

Conservative Christian my ass.

There's an A in LGBTBBQ now? Good Lord. I wonder which that one is.

Quote from: fistfulofmetal
I don't understand why you're so aggressive about this sort of stuff. Your oppression doesn't mean others aren't allowed to benefit from the hard work to spread representation and equality. The more people are allowed to express who they are, the better. It shouldn't matter if they do or do not neatly fit into a narrow view of what should or shouldn't be.

It's same kind of rhetoric that denies your existence.

Quote from: Queen of Ice
No, the rhetoric that denies my existence bases itself on stereotypes from tv shows like South Park that we are pretending, that we are performing, that we are men in dresses and then some leftover fuck stain comes in identifying as trans who thinks all gender is performative, while wearing lipstick, a dress, and a 5 o clock while speaking for me when we represent two total fucking opposites.

They have my support to live out the way they want but they aren't trans. This person is not trans, and let the record show that we are nothing alike.

Quote from: I'm A Puppy!
I disagree. I have many trans friends that share Queen's views and hate that kind of stuff and feel it pushes them backwards. And none of them are remotely close to christian.

Let's continue this thang.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: thisismyusername on September 19, 2017, 04:53:36 PM
Like, look: I get what you and other trans folks are saying in that regard. But where does the line between "transgender" and "non-binary" lie?
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on September 19, 2017, 04:59:40 PM
Some non-binary people have dysphoria. Those people would be trans.

Being trans is about dysphoria to force you to cross to the other sex. If you do not have dysphoria, you are not trans. Point blank. There is no "umbrella". The needs of these two communities are entirely different. One is medical treatment access. The other is access to making their made up pronouns legal. Dysphoria is "I see myself as a woman/man in my head and the person I see in the mirror is the opposite". That is medical.

Pretty clear line.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: thisismyusername on September 19, 2017, 05:04:11 PM
You misunderstand: What I mean is where is that line of "dysphoria" for trans? For some folks, cross-dressing/drag is the limit of their dysphoria and most folks wouldn't consider that non-binary. For others, it's doing their nails, (possibly) shaving, lipstick, and the like. These folks see themselves as "non-binary" because they cross traditional gender roles. Some of them may want to transition later in life or not.

It's a "fuzzy" line, is what I'm getting at.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Atramental on September 19, 2017, 05:05:57 PM
I'm moon gendered sometimes water gendered just so you all know.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: demi on September 19, 2017, 05:07:35 PM
When will Cosmo speedrun again?
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on September 19, 2017, 05:10:14 PM
You misunderstand: What I mean is where is that line of "dysphoria" for trans? For some folks, cross-dressing/drag is the limit of their dysphoria and most folks wouldn't consider that non-binary. For others, it's doing their nails, (possibly) shaving, lipstick, and the like. These folks see themselves as "non-binary" because they cross traditional gender roles. Some of them may want to transition later in life or not.

It's a "fuzzy" line, is what I'm getting at.

This shit isn't fuzzy. A man putting on lipstick or does his nails doesn't make him trans and it isn't dysphoria. It just shows he's gender non-comforming. Which is fine. But dysphoria is a emotional distress. If you do not have distress from your birth body, you're not trans. I don't see how this is fuzzy. "cross-dressing/drag is the limit of their dysphoria" I have never heard a drag queen tell me that she felt she was at odds with her body unless they're trans. And most of them aren't. And the ones that are? They transition. If you don't have dysphoria and don't have an urge to transition medically, why the fuck are they calling themselves trans? Fuck them.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Raist on September 19, 2017, 05:18:50 PM
I believe the correct acronym these days is LGBTQIAA+ :snob
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: thisismyusername on September 19, 2017, 05:43:12 PM
I believe the correct acronym these days is LGBTQIAA+ :snob

Allies shouldn't even be there. And frankly, the term has become so mangled that it just just be LGBT at this point. Asexuals are Asexuals. They aren't really being excluded removing them from it.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on September 20, 2017, 12:08:38 AM
Considering going into sex work soon for the cash.  :-\ I decided a long time ago that if i ever had to resort to that I'd stick to camming because I don't want some client to murder me.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Momo on September 20, 2017, 12:26:21 AM
I'm moon gendered sometimes water gendered just so you all know.
Are you an elf?  :ohhh
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: TVC15 on September 20, 2017, 01:03:29 AM
Considering going into sex work soon for the cash.  :-\ I decided a long time ago that if i ever had to resort to that I'd stick to camming because I don't want some client to murder me.

20 bucks to rosebud yourself over skype right now.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Trent Dole on September 20, 2017, 02:46:54 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH1PJTY9AVA
Good to have a BBQ thread!

I've been thinking of getting a smoker. Anyone have a Big Green Egg or anything similar?
Yeah man, I kinda wanted to get into BBQing this past summer but the other tenants always had their damn stupid kids running around all over the place unsupervised. There was eventually a email sent out saying to watch yr damn kids and not leave shit lying around all over the common are so next year I'ma go for it.
I'm moon gendered sometimes water gendered just so you all know.
Moon rules #1. :sheik
I like have mini Hello Kitty and Domo Kun collections going but I still like sticking my dick in women - what's that make me? Many things that people consider masculine or feminine are just stupid social construct bullshit and vary country to country so the non binary stuff just seems derpy to me. Wow you aren't exactly what the mass media/societal pressure tells you to be? Congratulations, you're normal. :P

Buzzy posts are best posts.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: thisismyusername on September 20, 2017, 07:41:13 AM
Considering going into sex work soon for the cash.  :-\ I decided a long time ago that if i ever had to resort to that I'd stick to camming because I don't want some client to murder me.

I highly doubt anyone would murder you. But at the same time, I can't say that with 100% certainty. A lot of folks would want barebacking or something of the sort and you'd have to flat-out refuse them. Honestly, the question is why would you go into that line of work for the cash if you aren't completely broke?
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Valkyrie on September 20, 2017, 07:45:46 AM
Trying to figure out the abbveration in the title.

Lesbian
Gay
Bisexual
Transsexual

..Barbecue?

Also Queen, don't do cam shit. You're better than that. I can't imagine how hard it is to get a job as a trans person, but you shouldn't have to degrade yourself that way. My bestfriend (cis tho) was poor as fuck and struggled with money so she got into camming, earned shittons for a bit, but it's been backfiring even 10 years later. Twice when she got a new boyfriend they (or their friends) have run into her old videos and recognized her. One of them threatened to tell/show her dad and stuff when they were fighting. She's still worried about it being seen by someone even though it was so long ago. Really not worth it.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Mupepe on September 20, 2017, 07:46:25 AM
Considering going into sex work soon for the cash.  :-\ I decided a long time ago that if i ever had to resort to that I'd stick to camming because I don't want some client to murder me.

20 bucks to rosebud yourself over skype right now.
Make it 15 and you've got yourself a deal.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Raist on September 20, 2017, 07:54:52 AM
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My bestfriend (cis tho) was poor as fuck and struggled with money so she got into camming, earned shittons for a bit, but it's been backfiring even 10 years later. Twice when she got a new boyfriend they (or their friends) have run into her old videos and recognized her. One of them threatened to tell/show her dad and stuff when they were fighting. She's still worried about it being seen by someone even though it was so long ago. Really not worth it.


Link? Purely to determine the severity of the potential consequences, of course. For science.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: toku on September 20, 2017, 02:38:38 PM
we're all losers in the gig economy
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Steve Contra on September 20, 2017, 02:59:04 PM
Considering going into sex work soon for the cash.  :-\ I decided a long time ago that if i ever had to resort to that I'd stick to camming because I don't want some client to murder me.

I highly doubt anyone would murder you.
There is probably no other work you could do in America that would get you murdered (or damn close) faster than being a trans poc sex worker.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on September 20, 2017, 03:02:41 PM
Camming is only degrading and shameful if you view it that way. And if you do, yeah you really shouldn't do it


Honestly though, I think saying "you shouldn't have to degrade yourself like that" is pretty well bullshit. It's a legitimate profession for tons of people. It's pretty much in line with slut shaming or whatever. If anyone feels comfortable meeting the huge market demand for that kind of thing, I don't think they should be derided for it. Queen saying resort to it, and knowing her Christian values, yeah I wouldn't really recommend it for her but the shaming "you're better than that" -- that don't sit well with me.

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Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: thisismyusername on September 20, 2017, 04:32:56 PM
Considering going into sex work soon for the cash.  :-\ I decided a long time ago that if i ever had to resort to that I'd stick to camming because I don't want some client to murder me.

I highly doubt anyone would murder you.
There is probably no other work you could do in America that would get you murdered (or damn close) faster than being a trans poc sex worker.

Maybe if you're setting poor money limits. Most high-money workers wouldn't get murdered, trans or not.

I don't dispute that trans are a minority that gets a lot of shit, but sex workers in general (provided they do their legwork) won't get into serial killer-esque situations.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on September 20, 2017, 08:12:14 PM
:beli
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Valkyrie on September 20, 2017, 08:38:29 PM
Camming is only degrading and shameful if you view it that way. And if you do, yeah you really shouldn't do it


Honestly though, I think saying "you shouldn't have to degrade yourself like that" is pretty well bullshit. It's a legitimate profession for tons of people. It's pretty much in line with slut shaming or whatever. If anyone feels comfortable meeting the huge market demand for that kind of thing, I don't think they should be derided for it. Queen saying resort to it, and knowing her Christian values, yeah I wouldn't really recommend it for her but the shaming "you're better than that" -- that don't sit well with me.

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  :trigger
[close]
Seriously?
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 20, 2017, 08:44:58 PM
Nothing wrong with camming, sex work, etc. Don't judge how people use their body to provide for themselves, as long as they're not hurting themselves or others. Bless up.

Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on September 20, 2017, 08:51:09 PM
Camming is only degrading and shameful if you view it that way. And if you do, yeah you really shouldn't do it


Honestly though, I think saying "you shouldn't have to degrade yourself like that" is pretty well bullshit. It's a legitimate profession for tons of people. It's pretty much in line with slut shaming or whatever. If anyone feels comfortable meeting the huge market demand for that kind of thing, I don't think they should be derided for it. Queen saying resort to it, and knowing her Christian values, yeah I wouldn't really recommend it for her but the shaming "you're better than that" -- that don't sit well with me.

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  :trigger
[close]
Seriously?

Yes.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Valkyrie on September 20, 2017, 08:53:59 PM
Good thing we're all entitled to our own opinions. I'm not here to argue yours.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on September 20, 2017, 08:56:06 PM
K good deal
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 20, 2017, 08:58:30 PM
:snoop
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Dickie Dee on September 20, 2017, 09:01:34 PM
Camming is only degrading and shameful if you view it that way. And if you do, yeah you really shouldn't do it


Honestly though, I think saying "you shouldn't have to degrade yourself like that" is pretty well bullshit. It's a legitimate profession for tons of people. It's pretty much in line with slut shaming or whatever. If anyone feels comfortable meeting the huge market demand for that kind of thing, I don't think they should be derided for it. Queen saying resort to it, and knowing her Christian values, yeah I wouldn't really recommend it for her but the shaming "you're better than that" -- that don't sit well with me.

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  :trigger
[close]
Seriously?

Yes.

Really non-judgmental here, but even her original post broaching the topic:

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Considering going into sex work soon for the cash.  :-\ I decided a long time ago that if i ever had to resort to that I'd stick to camming because I don't want some client to murder me.

Implies that this isn't her first choice - it's ok for folks to have personal boundaries even if they're very ok with other people crossing those same ones.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on September 20, 2017, 09:02:56 PM
I don't believe I said anything contrary to what you just said

Oh u editin now huh?

Not really sure what your point is now tbh
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Dickie Dee on September 20, 2017, 09:04:53 PM
Probably not - I'm a bit  tipsy tonight.

Reading comprehension unfortunately coming a distant second to pontificating.  :(
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on September 20, 2017, 09:20:27 PM
Sex work might be the fastest way to get a neo vagina

But I'm willing to wait since there's prospective new surgery modifications that make it even better even just recently

It'll go against what I value though so it's a last, final option
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on September 27, 2017, 09:36:38 PM
Went to my doctor after waiting a full month for appointment for new hormone rx. I get new rx. Clinic has affiliated pharmacies that give major discount. I've bought three month supply of E and spiro for fourth dollars this way. I ask for affiliate location near my home so I don't have to drive 30-40 minutes for hormones. They tell me they are no longer affiliated despite being on the list. My total is one hundred something dollars. I storm out store. I thought this would be finally fucking over. I want to shoot myself in the head.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on October 04, 2017, 08:43:36 PM
I have a trans mom now! :heartbeat Maybe the community isn't that bad. Been meeting lots of cool trans girls and dudes lately who also aren't purple haired SJWs with stubble and it's been really cool! We lean on each other because we feel ostracized from the rest of the community and it just makes us all closer.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on October 05, 2017, 07:43:13 PM
https://www.salon.com/2017/10/05/trans-protections-civil-rights-act/

Welp! Can't wait to be a hooker.  :-*
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: TVC15 on October 05, 2017, 08:23:01 PM
https://www.salon.com/2017/10/05/trans-protections-civil-rights-act/

Welp! Can't wait to be a hooker.  :-*

No hooking. I’ll build a website around you.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on October 12, 2017, 09:33:01 AM
https://youtu.be/sFrrbU37-34
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on October 12, 2017, 09:37:36 AM
I like Theryn.

I didn't go to pride this year either, girl. Disgusting.

https://youtu.be/yB1u-_i3il0
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: benjipwns on October 12, 2017, 09:50:43 AM
The better part of that first video is not that they took down the video, but they also edited the message about why they took it down. This is the version left up:
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We'll be re-posting the video of Adrienne Smith talking about the use of gender pronouns soon--but we'll have to turn the comments off. A whole bunch of ignorant and hateful posts trolled our page and rather than comb through the hate we've deleted the original post. To anyone who commented supportively (or neutrally, or even respectfully in opposition (ok there weren't any of those, but theoretically it's possible)) our apologies for deleting your comment as well.

We've got a long, long way to go together.

But the one shown in the video and that's no longer on their page, but referenced in the comments still, says instead:
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We'll be re-posting the video of Adrienne Smith talking about the use of gender pronouns soon--but we'll have to turn the comments off. A whole bunch of literal Nazis swamped our page and rather than comb through the hate we've deleted the original post. To anyone who commented supportively (or neutrally, or even respectfully in opposition (ok there weren't any of those, but theoretically it's possible)) our apologies for deleting your comment as well.

We've got a long, long way to go together, judging from the knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing swarm of bigots that flocked to our post.
:lol
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on October 12, 2017, 09:54:04 AM
:lol  Modern LGBT is a fucking joke. :lol
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Bananas on October 12, 2017, 11:26:51 AM
I love you 2000+ gays who grew up with Glee and Milo and think being gay is like being in an episode of modern family and pride parades aren't needed. 
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on October 12, 2017, 11:37:59 AM
I love you 2000+ gays who grew up with Glee and Milo and think being gay is like being in an episode of modern family and pride parades aren't needed.

:confused
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Rufus on October 12, 2017, 11:43:19 AM
Invisible minorities, the best kind. :putin
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on October 19, 2017, 07:55:06 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/euHiBhs.jpg)

:lol
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: etiolate on October 19, 2017, 08:00:10 PM
Top person was my first experience with transgenderism like fuckin 20 or so years ago. Bottom person is my facebook feed.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Sai on October 21, 2017, 08:28:38 PM
hey this is gay i love it  :-[

I love you 2000+ gays who grew up with Glee and Milo and think being gay is like being in an episode of modern family and pride parades aren't needed.

hey kill yourself  :-*
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: thisismyusername on October 21, 2017, 08:32:25 PM
Sai-kun, post dick.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Sai on October 21, 2017, 08:38:10 PM
pm me after ive had a few in a few hours
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: thisismyusername on October 21, 2017, 08:40:40 PM
pm me after ive had a few in a few hours

I'll hold you to that, bb.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Raban on October 21, 2017, 09:27:14 PM
I’m just here for the dying GAF bantz after having spent the last few years on 4chan but as a former resident Bore cheeseburger I thought I’d throw my 2¢ in this thread based on my irl experiences.

Being trans is fucking confusing brehs. I don’t claim to know what “tru” trans is or anything like that, but I can tell you what I’ve learned living as a trans woman for 5 and a half years. I’m not a woman. I’ve lived with women. And I’ve discovered I have about as much in common with the average woman as I do with the average man. That is to say: not much. I thought after enough time I’d just assimilate and be treated like a cis woman, but that was a delusion. It’s a delusion many trans women have. The men that feel alienated, pop titty skittles, start speaking for all women and become indignant at the first sign of doubt make the trans community look worse than the manliest man in a dress stereotype you can think of. Being trans, to me, is being transcendant of the historical gender norms we’re holding on to in the west. This has been happening for decades, and I don’t mean just sufferers of dysphoria. Before cheeseburgers became a media sensation, I remember “gender” in the dictionary held the definition of a grammatical term used for groups of things with shared characteristics. With that, I see genders everywhere. Tomboys, twinks, basement dwelling autists, furfags, cardio bunnies, meatheads, I could go on forever. These are all genders. To me, being trans just means you live in between two of more of these presentations of your identity. That you’re a little more complex than the average person.

All that being said, I feel sorry for the people that make transness the focal point of their personality. I get misgendered, I get propositioned by niqqas who make it clear I’m just an explore-your-sexual-horizons fucktoy to them, but I don’t make a big deal out of that shit. There’s more important things that define who I am; my heritage, my family, my love of philosophy, my humor. Trans was just something I had to be to free myself from my own insecurities, nothing more. That attitude has allowed me to find modest success in my life despite being a freakshow. I live in a California county that voted for Trump, yet I get nothing but respect from most of the people I interact with. I landed a job working for the State of California, at the fucking DMV (yeah you read that right). I deal with assblasted people all day long and I FUCKING LOVE it, and all the stares and “sir”s don’t get to me. Both my managers voted for Trump and one specifically skews pretty hard in the neolib-who-believes-in-Alex-Jones-tier-conspiracies direction but she fucking loves me more than my own father. I speak for no one but myself, but everything I’ve experienced is the American dream as far as I’m concerned. One American’s dream in particular. The “content of [my] character” has made all the difference in my life. I don’t treat people differently even if they’re an asshole, I’m upfront about what and who I am, and I don’t expect anything from anyone. Nonbinary, genderqueer, tumblrina, whatever the fuck you are, I’m gonna give you the same fair shake I give everyone. I’m happy to listen to what anyone has to say, but if it boils down to “woe is me” and there’s no accounting for personal responsibility then I will pretty reliably stay the fuck away from you. At the end of the day, all anyone can do is make decisions. Everyone makes bad ones, but only some learn from those bad ones so they can make good ones later. If you wanna draw a line in the sand, it goes between the people who learn and correct and the people who don’t.

This post is getting a bit long in the tooth so I’ll wrap it up, but if you’ve taken the time to read it I just wanna say thanks. Hopefully it’s of some use to someone and not just fuel for a flame war. Back to your regularly scheduled programming...
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on October 21, 2017, 09:57:32 PM
I'm still the same way as when I started. I identify as a woman and trans is a small part of my being. What work have you done to be treated as cis? Because if it's just popping the pills you're in for an awakening. There's a few things you can do and the biggest is see why you're being misgendered. Years into transition and I still get along with, identify with, and have tons of things in common with women than men. Passing takes work. Too many have convinced themselves that just taking hormones will do the job. And even if they do, often they take the worst kind of hormones. For example, you should move on to injections and research different AA's altogether if you're still not passing. Pills are among the worst delivery methods of E, and also among the most dangerous. If you have resigned yourself to being seen seen as trans I think that's on you. Is your voice on the level? Have you had laser and then electro? Have you transitioned socially? How's your posture and mannerisms? Pills are just one element of transition.

I personally think that the "trans is about going beyond gender norms" thing is bullshit. Fuck that. I do this because I was a woman in my head and needed my body to reflect that. Fuck breaking gender norms. This isn't an ideology. It's a medical issue first and foremost.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Rise on October 21, 2017, 10:07:38 PM
pills are fine if they're estradiol valerate pills, iirc there was some data collected by a doctor showing that micronized estrogen is actually bad because the liver breaks it down to estrone which is a really weak form of estrogen
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on October 21, 2017, 10:11:40 PM
So non-estrace?
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Rise on October 21, 2017, 10:13:01 PM
yeah, progynova.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on October 21, 2017, 10:13:45 PM
I know a baby trans who says they're going to just take oral E. No sublingual.

RIP.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Rise on October 21, 2017, 10:56:30 PM
thats a bad idea if she's not taking progynova, progynova is fine orally because it's a prodrug designed to be broken down. micronized estrogen just gets destroyed in your body.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Raban on October 22, 2017, 03:09:01 AM
Himu, you know I love you but I think this is one of the many things we fundamentally disagree on.

imho, there’s no such thing as “passing” trans people. You can post all the qt instatrannies with their clinically precise camera angles and cosmetic execution and never convince me, because irl every trans person has a tell. The shoulders, the height, the hair, the voice, the skull, the hands, there’s always SOMETHING, and it brands you. You may have people in your life that seem to treat you “as cis” but they see the tells. They just don’t care. But they see them. Everyone who looks or listens will see them. This is why I identify, simply, as “trans”. You don’t have to worry about getting clocked when you clock yourself :rollsafe

If someone asks me point blank, “what are you?” I’d rather say trans and deal with that person’s baggage with that term than say “woman” and attempt to wrangle all the baggage attached to that label. Obviously I don’t go outside and scream “HEY I’M TRANS” to everyone, but as soon as I get the feeling I can trust someone at all, I’d rather just lay it out there. Think about gay liberation. Gays didn’t fight for acceptance and then continue to bring their beards to dinner parties and refer to their boyfriends as “my partner”. They came out and stayed out. The benefit of trans acceptance now is that we don’t have to hide (to an extent). People want to know a cheeseburger, they want to understand. But as long as we’re hiding in our hair, we’re only limiting the progress we make as a minority to be recognized and respected as human beings.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2017, 03:14:23 AM
I think you've had such a bad experience that it has morphed into something resembling self deprecation. Honestly, it doesn't even make sense. I've known cis women who look trans. You'll always clock yourself. That's a part of gender dysphoria. But others shouldn't be clocking you on a regular basis. You can tell me every trans person has a tell, but I know that deep down you tell yourself this to convince yourself that it's okay to be clocked, that it's okay to be a brick. You're better than that. Go the extra mile.

Basically,"I don't pass so there's no point in trying." It's brick logic. Don't succumb to that bullshit.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2017, 03:21:28 AM
Also, you said earlier that being trans is a small part of your life but now you're saying it's okay to be out and proud. If you talk to me youll eventually probably find out I'm trans. I do not hide that fact and unlike the sjw feggits I don't say I was born a girl. I'm very open about the fact I was born a boy and it was wrong for me. I said nothing of hiding,  but I do not identify as "trans". I identify as a woman. I don't want to be known as the cheeseburger. I don't want to be someone's taco ambassador. I did this to be a woman, and be treated like one - warts and all.

The ideology/philosophy thing is dumb to me. All I care about is medical transition and attracting hard ass dick so I don't die alone.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Raban on October 22, 2017, 03:35:09 AM
I haven’t had what I’d call a bad experience at all tho ??? like I haven’t been physically or verbally attacked even once. just people making harmless mistakes. I present pretty androgynously by choice. I always identified with tomboys, and I’ve known them to get misgendered as well. I find it a little odd that you read “self deprecation” into what I’m trying to put forward as a positive, honest message. I’d rather be happy with who and what I am than “put effort” into a façade.

Maybe this is why nonbinaries and transwomen bicker so often? What you see as necessary, nbs see as superfluous? At this point I identify more with nonbinaries than transwomen, especially with the approach you’re offering. I’ve amended my birth certificate to read F and bear my chosen female name, and sometimes I wear makeup, and sometimes I do my nails, and sometimes I’ll put on a skirt, but ultimately all that’s peanuts when it comes to the things that really determine how people treat me.

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The ideology/philosophy thing is dumb to me. All I care about is medical transition and attracting hard ass dick so I don't die alone.
Oh :fbm well I’ll fuck off then since that’s all I really think about and sex isn’t even on the top 10,000 things I want in my life rn. Pretty sure I’m foreveralone and I’m okay with that. Sex is groce and most people are obnoxious before too long
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2017, 03:41:23 AM
I'm just going by your original post.

That plus "all trans people have tells" and "nobody passes" are red flags.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Rise on October 22, 2017, 03:45:57 AM
imho, there’s no such thing as “passing” trans people. You can post all the qt instatrannies with their clinically precise camera angles and cosmetic execution and never convince me, because irl every trans person has a tell. The shoulders, the height, the hair, the voice, the skull, the hands, there’s always SOMETHING, and it brands you. You may have people in your life that seem to treat you “as cis” but they see the tells. They just don’t care. But they see them. Everyone who looks or listens will see them. This is why I identify, simply, as “trans”. You don’t have to worry about getting clocked when you clock yourself :rollsafe
no offense but this is like the most hon/brick thing i've read all year. So far down the rabbit hole that you've convinced yourself passing doesn't exist.

I mean, yes, it's rare that a trans woman has a "perfect" physical transition. But cis women are rarely physically perfect either. Most of them learn to compensate for their flaws through appropriate/flattering dress and makeup. Effort matters regardless of being cis or trans. You're not gonna be a sexy supermodel probably but again, neither are most cis women. Maybe I'm pushing a little too far but I feel like some people have agp buyer's remorse when they don't transition into an ideal sexual fantasy.

If you actually think that all of the passing trans women out there who are living normal lives are just pulling a fast one on you, I dunno what to say. It's just anti-reality nonsense.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2017, 03:57:27 AM
It really unfortunately reminds me of "passing doesn't matter! be who you want" thing many late (40+) transitioners say.

Or "you're being cis normative" from the tumblr crowd.

But the thing is, yeah! I am cis normative. Why would I not want to pass? Who tries to convince themselves they don't want to pass?

So it's not like the mind set doesn't exist elsewhere because I'm used to hearing but nah. Saying that IMO is a privelage in itself unfortunately. I just fundamentally disagree and have always felt bad that I never wanted to look like a cheeseburger at any point in my transition. But that's probably my fault? Idk just how I feel
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Raban on October 22, 2017, 03:59:46 AM
Yeah the “no-pass” thing isn’t to excuse my own ass. I just genuinely have never met or seen a “passing” trans woman or man. Male bodied human beings, no matter how early the transition, are exposed to so much HGH through adolescence to adulthood that their skeletal structure ends up far outside of the standard deviation for the opposite sex, barring genetic outliers. The lack of HGH exposure has a similar but opposite effect for female bodied people.

/autism

Y’all keep bringing up the “cis women look manly too!” cliché and it makes me feel like you’re just throwing canned replies at me instead of even considering what I’m saying. I’m not talking about the shit on the surface. Hormones and SRS isn’t going to give you narrow shoulders, tilt your pelvis, or shrink your skull. Archeologists have been identifying the sex of sapien fossil remains using nothing but bones for decades. You think maternity clothes and MAC will fix that shit?

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Maybe I'm pushing a little too far but I feel like some people have agp buyer's remorse when they don't transition into an ideal sexual fantasy.
:kobeyuck
blanchard a shit and I hope you just used his bs ironically
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2017, 04:03:53 AM
Ah. So all trans women are men deep down, but no that's not self deprecating. :confused

We got your point. I told flat out that you sound like you hate yourself. You say being called sir doesn't bother you while you're saying stuff that ultimately argues that we are men in the long run so it doesn't matter what you to do.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Raban on October 22, 2017, 04:09:35 AM
Ah. So all trans women are men deep down, but no that's not self deprecating. :confused

We got your point. I told flat out that you sound like you hate yourself. You say being called sir doesn't bother you while you're saying stuff that ultimately argues that we are men in the long run so it doesn't matter what you to do.
I didn’t mean “trans women aka men” I meant “trans women or trans men”. I thought you might blow up on me for that but I hoped you wouldn’t. Alas, here we are tugging each other’s tits over semantics like not a day has passed since the last time we did this years ago. My how quickly my attempt at a philosophical discussion got railroaded into ad hom and shitposting. Some things never change :uguu
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Rise on October 22, 2017, 04:10:42 AM
Yeah the “no-pass” thing isn’t to excuse my own ass. I just genuinely have never met or seen a “passing” trans woman or man. Male bodied human beings, no matter how early the transition, are exposed to so much HGH through adolescence to adulthood that their skeletal structure ends up far outside of the standard deviation for the opposite sex, barring genetic outliers. The lack of HGH exposure has a similar but opposite effect for female bodied people.

/autism

Y’all keep bringing up the “cis women look manly too!” cliché and it makes me feel like you’re just throwing canned replies at me instead of even considering what I’m saying. I’m not talking about the shit on the surface. Hormones and SRS isn’t going to give you narrow shoulders, tilt your pelvis, or shrink your skull. Archeologists have been identifying the sex of sapien fossil remains using nothing but bones for decades. You think maternity clothes and MAC will fix that shit?
Not everyone goes through puberty the same way lol. I'm not saying everyone can pass; that's just as nonsensical as saying nobody passes. But I do think that the chances of passing are pretty okay as long as you aren't built like a linebacker as long as you accept some flaws.

Maybe I'm optimistic cause I hit the genetic lottery for transitioning idk. I started at late 19 and I was 5' 3" with a tiny body. But I'm also going off what I've seen other people experience too. Voice is the much bigger barrier to passing than body stuff for people who put the work in.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2017, 04:11:38 AM
:confused

What

You expect to be able to say trans women are men and not get called out about and say it's "semantics"?

:neogaf

Philosophical discussion? Philosophical discussions are about disagreements and just talking about. Rise and I have been talking with you and saying why we think you are wrong. That is very much a philosophical discussion.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Raban on October 22, 2017, 04:15:28 AM
:confused

What

You expect to be able to say trans women are men and not get called out about and say it's "semantics"?

:neogaf
I genuinely didn’t say that but keep saying I did sis, it’s cute :-*

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Philosophical discussion? Philosophical discussions are about disagreements and just talking about. Rise and I have been talking with you and saying why we think you are wrong. That is very much a philosophical discussion.
Yup, prognosticating about my apparenty latent self-hatred is purely philosophical banter :whew
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2017, 04:16:21 AM
Yeah the “no-pass” thing isn’t to excuse my own ass. I just genuinely have never met or seen a “passing” trans woman or man. Male bodied human beings, no matter how early the transition, are exposed to so much HGH through adolescence to adulthood that their skeletal structure ends up far outside of the standard deviation for the opposite sex, barring genetic outliers. The lack of HGH exposure has a similar but opposite effect for female bodied people.

/autism

Y’all keep bringing up the “cis women look manly too!” cliché and it makes me feel like you’re just throwing canned replies at me instead of even considering what I’m saying. I’m not talking about the shit on the surface. Hormones and SRS isn’t going to give you narrow shoulders, tilt your pelvis, or shrink your skull. Archeologists have been identifying the sex of sapien fossil remains using nothing but bones for decades. You think maternity clothes and MAC will fix that shit?
Not everyone goes through puberty the same way lol. I'm not saying everyone can pass; that's just as nonsensical as saying nobody passes. But I do think that the chances of passing are pretty okay as long as you aren't built like a linebacker as long as you accept some flaws.

Maybe I'm optimistic cause I hit the genetic lottery for transitioning idk. I started at late 19 and I was 5' 3" with a tiny body. But I'm also going off what I've seen other people experience too. Voice is the much bigger barrier to passing than body stuff for people who put the work in.

I was 5'5 and had wide hips and small shoulders. :rejoice

Voice and mannerisms seem like 60% of the deal. You might not be pretty but you'll pass if you can do these things. Dat elbow tuck walk. :lawd
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2017, 04:19:26 AM
:confused

What

You expect to be able to say trans women are men and not get called out about and say it's "semantics"?

:neogaf
I genuinely didn’t say that but keep saying I did sis, it’s cute :-*

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Hormones and SRS isn’t going to give you narrow shoulders, tilt your pelvis, or shrink your skull. Archeologists have been identifying the sex of sapien fossil remains using nothing but bones for decades. You think maternity clothes and MAC will fix that shit?

Aka you skeletal structure is that of a man

You even said

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male bodied human beings...

Why are you remotely surprised that your words aren't being interpreted as "trans women are men"?
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Rise on October 22, 2017, 04:20:59 AM
Yeah the “no-pass” thing isn’t to excuse my own ass. I just genuinely have never met or seen a “passing” trans woman or man. Male bodied human beings, no matter how early the transition, are exposed to so much HGH through adolescence to adulthood that their skeletal structure ends up far outside of the standard deviation for the opposite sex, barring genetic outliers. The lack of HGH exposure has a similar but opposite effect for female bodied people.

/autism

Y’all keep bringing up the “cis women look manly too!” cliché and it makes me feel like you’re just throwing canned replies at me instead of even considering what I’m saying. I’m not talking about the shit on the surface. Hormones and SRS isn’t going to give you narrow shoulders, tilt your pelvis, or shrink your skull. Archeologists have been identifying the sex of sapien fossil remains using nothing but bones for decades. You think maternity clothes and MAC will fix that shit?
Not everyone goes through puberty the same way lol. I'm not saying everyone can pass; that's just as nonsensical as saying nobody passes. But I do think that the chances of passing are pretty okay as long as you aren't built like a linebacker as long as you accept some flaws.

Maybe I'm optimistic cause I hit the genetic lottery for transitioning idk. I started at late 19 and I was 5' 3" with a tiny body. But I'm also going off what I've seen other people experience too. Voice is the much bigger barrier to passing than body stuff for people who put the work in.

I was 5'5 and had wide hips and small shoulders. :rejoice

Voice and mannerisms seem like 60% of the deal. You might not be pretty but you'll pass if you can do these things. Dat elbow tuck walk. :lawd
being a manlet can pay off sometimes :phil
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Raban on October 22, 2017, 04:25:50 AM
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male bodied human beings...
Is a term I picked up from my female bodied doctor who specializes in transgender health care. what a bitch she is, amirite?

male =/= man

Male is sex, man is gender. Why are you pretending to conflate the two? You can change your gender all day long, it’s not gonna make your body spontaneously produce female gametes.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2017, 10:00:32 AM
Oh ok. I agree with that.

I'm definitely not on that delusional steez like from that awful comic with the 12 year old who looks 30 that I see from my Social Studies Warrior trans friends talking about girl parts are girl parts even if it's a fucking penis.

But that's also subtlety I'm surprised you would expect from an Internet discussion. Like you're really surprised someone read from your logic that you think trans women = men, because you picked up a term from your doctor friend absolutely none of us have ever met and we're supposed to read your fucking mind? :neogaf Come on.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: EarthBound64 on October 22, 2017, 02:26:56 PM
And frankly, the term has become so mangled that it just just be LGBT at this point. Asexuals are Asexuals. They aren't really being excluded removing them from it.

Well, **** that ****.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Crayons on October 22, 2017, 06:14:22 PM
do you believe in life after gaf
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Trent Dole on October 25, 2017, 05:51:24 AM
https://www.themarysue.com/decoding-the-transgender-matrix-the-matrix-as-a-transgender-coming-out-story/
yay/nay? :thinking
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Raist on October 25, 2017, 05:58:04 AM
https://www.themarysue.com/decoding-the-transgender-matrix-the-matrix-as-a-transgender-coming-out-story/
yay/nay? :thinking

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My rewatch of The Matrix was done through a critical transgender lens that confirms that the movie is all about coming out as transgender in society and how society reacts.

"By watching the movie again with a particular bias, I confirmed such bias".

Derp.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: landaulifshitz on October 25, 2017, 06:02:57 AM
Oh my God. It took me way too long to realise that the BBQ stands for barbecue and not in fact something-something-queer.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Yeti on October 25, 2017, 10:10:28 AM
Cindi Mayweather (and I guess everyone who changes usernames like they change underwear) if we call you by your previous usernames, is that like deadnaming you, or do you not really care? I ask particularly of you Cindi, because Himu was from before you transitioned, so you might consider it tied to your old male identity? And I don't want to upset you or anything.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Sai on October 25, 2017, 11:15:14 AM
Oh my God. It took me way too long to realise that the BBQ stands for barbecue and not in fact something-something-queer.

please stop the Bisexuals-Barbe-Queing erasure tia
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on October 25, 2017, 12:14:36 PM
Cindi Mayweather (and I guess everyone who changes usernames like they change underwear) if we call you by your previous usernames, is that like deadnaming you, or do you not really care? I ask particularly of you Cindi, because Himu was from before you transitioned, so you might consider it tied to your old male identity? And I don't want to upset you or anything.

Bro. This is a sweet question and everything but it's also full flipping distinguished mentally-challenged lmao

I'd prefer Cindi. Thank you.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Leadbelly on October 29, 2017, 04:43:37 PM
I think personally what happened was the trans community was co-opted by ideologues. It was then spread by people who subscribe to the ideology and bought into the sophistry.

It is a kind of post-modern, social constructionist idea of gender. When you introduce the idea that there is no truth other than what the current power structures or dominant culture propagates, it is inevitable it would be taken to pure levels of absurdity. A good example would be 'genderfluidity'. The idea that you can change your gender on a whim, depending on the weather that day. Whats more, that people should respect that. It is apparent that it suits feminist ideas about gender. It is argued within feminst theory that gender, and even biological sex are entirely social constructs. Of course a big element of gender is a social construct, but idea that behaviour is purely down to nurture and doesn't have a biological component is a seriously contested one.

I remember watching a video on youtube where they were discussing the eradication of the male gender (lol). They didn't mean it literally, like male genocide or anything, what thet were talking about was more the idea of 'maleness' (toxic masculinity, etc). The logic behind it was that by eradicating or undermining ideas about masculinity or the male gender you weaken the patriarchy. One of the ways of undermining it is to introduce many diferent gender types.

In short: it is just an ideological tool that is convenient to feminist ideas about gender and the patriarchy.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on October 29, 2017, 06:29:23 PM
Agreed, but more importantly is that it adheres to a queer politics element. It's full of queer idealogues in particular.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on October 29, 2017, 06:39:51 PM
And yeah, the whole "gender is a social construct" crap is one of main things pushing me away from feminism. :poop

Gonna paste what my friend wrote about this shit.

TLDR: Fuck ideology and fuck philosophy. Give us mones, medical care, and actual human rights. Fuck the queers and their "umbrella". Fuck that feminist bullshit too.

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re: “why bother being exclusionary?”

Here is why I think we need to separate transsexualism, the medical condition, from “transgender” identity politics. I think there is a cultural phenomenon happening where people people want to describe all of the minutiae of their experience of gender and sexuality with a new label or set of labels. And none of these labels have any set meaning, anyone can claim them for any reason and no one is allowed to question how they choose to "identify." And honestly? That's totally fine. Dismantle gender conventions, rock n roll, etc.

Transsexualism, on the other hand, absolutely does have a specific definition, defined symptoms, and even neural and genetic biomarkers associated with it.

The big conflict is that these groups of people have drastically different needs. Transsexuals need lifesaving treatment, which we are routinely denied by insurers. We also need legal protections from discrimination (it is still legal in most US states to use a woman's trans status to get off the hook for murdering her). Beyond that, the goal for most of us is just to live a normal life as the sex we know ourselves to be.

Meanwhile, the diverse concerns of the gender identity community include advocating for increased visibility, increased representation of diverse modes of gender expression, normalizing of neopronouns, etc. Their experience of "transness" is not as a debilitating medical condition, but rather as a sociocultural / political ideology.

They are essentially gender anarchists / radicals, whereas we transsexuals are gender conformists.

I think we need to divorce these two movements. Our needs are fundamentally different in a way that can't be served well united under a single banner, "transgender." Transsexuals desperately need increased access to lifesaving care and legal protection. We are frustrated by the feeling that the gender identity community is jacking the mic by identifying as trans to gain credibility and visibility but then using that platform to push for their queer political platform. Meanwhile, they also feel that their self-identifications are threatened by transsexuals who point out that our experience of transness is fundamentally different. We're made into pariahs for this unacceptable act of 'gatekeeping.' They’ve effectively force-teamed themselves with us only to be able to kick us off the team if we don’t accept their queer politics agenda.

Honestly imo, they can have ‘transgender.’ I’m super sick of having this debate. But by demedicalizing transness, they are putting our access to hormones and surgeries at risk. If someone can just decide to be trans, if there’s no diagnosable medical basis for it, then why /should/ insurers be required to cover it?
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: thehunter116 on October 29, 2017, 10:45:48 PM
Serious question not to be taken lightly.

I personally could never date or be with a Trans women, yet I still support their human rights and ability to be who they truly are. Is this still a fundamental rejection of trans rights or can I still support them and their issues and not come off as a hypocrite? I mean I am denying a trans women she is a women by the very act of not considering her a "true" women.

Any and all response are welcome, provided you attempt to take this post as seriously as possible Benji :doge
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on October 29, 2017, 11:30:42 PM
Serious question not to be taken lightly.

I personally could never date or be with a Trans women, yet I still support their human rights and ability to be who they truly are. Is this still a fundamental rejection of trans rights or can I still support them and their issues and not come off as a hypocrite? I mean I am denying a trans women she is a women by the very act of not considering her a "true" women.

Any and all response are welcome, provided you attempt to take this post as seriously as possible Benji :doge

Seems fine to me. People who say you're transphobic because you aren't attracted to trans women are full of shit so long as it's not operating on a "you're not a true woman" thing. It's pretty normal to have genital preferences. I like dick. And although I'm open to dating a trans man, my first pick will always be a man with a cock. I don't say,"trans men aren't men" because of that preference tho. That's a ridiculous statement.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: thehunter116 on October 29, 2017, 11:40:05 PM
Serious question not to be taken lightly.

I personally could never date or be with a Trans women, yet I still support their human rights and ability to be who they truly are. Is this still a fundamental rejection of trans rights or can I still support them and their issues and not come off as a hypocrite? I mean I am denying a trans women she is a women by the very act of not considering her a "true" women.

Any and all response are welcome, provided you attempt to take this post as seriously as possible Benji :doge

Seems fine to me. People who say you're transphobic because you aren't attracted to trans women are full of shit so long as it's not operating on a "you're not a true woman" thing. It's pretty normal to have genital preferences. I like dick. And although I'm open to dating a trans man, my first pick will always be a man with a cock. I don't say,"trans men aren't men" because of that preference tho. That's a ridiculous statement.

I was parroting what I've heard others say on the subject. I would say I prefer Cis women; I'm glad to see that is not the case. I have run into those who would hold me just as accountable as those who scream bloody murder about trans rights.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: winik on October 30, 2017, 05:21:57 AM
There no limit on the community threads right? So if someone wanted a gay and gay only thread he could do that right? So if anyone wants to do that I would love to join that community.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: etiolate on October 30, 2017, 05:29:26 AM
iunno

sounds pretty gay to me
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: winik on October 30, 2017, 05:33:04 AM
That’s the point. Duh!
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: meeb on October 30, 2017, 08:26:30 AM
There no limit on the community threads right? So if someone wanted a gay and gay only thread he could do that right? So if anyone wants to do that I would love to join that community.

There's like 3 gay dudes on this forum. Enjoy your dead community thread.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: winik on October 30, 2017, 01:36:05 PM
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There's like 3 gay dudes on this forum. Enjoy your dead community thread.

I love dead things.

But hey I figure gay guys could be incentivized to be more active if they weren't repelled by the queers, like I am.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: demi on October 30, 2017, 01:37:20 PM
wat. is that really a thing?
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: meeb on October 30, 2017, 01:43:20 PM
wat. is that really a thing?

There were one or two gay GAFFers who got dogpiled and lepered by the LGBT thread for suggesting a "gay men only" thread. He said he couldn't really relate much to Lesbians.

Honestly I kinda sorta get it. r/LGBT is basically r/T most days for example. And sometimes you just want to post about Christ Pratt or some dude and have "bro-talk" without other subject matter.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on October 30, 2017, 02:04:18 PM
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There's like 3 gay dudes on this forum. Enjoy your dead community thread.

I love dead things.

But hey I figure gay guys could be incentivized to be more active if they weren't repelled by the queers, like I am.

I don't like the queers either. Post your gay shit IMO.

wat. is that really a thing?

There were one or two gay GAFFers who got dogpiled and lepered by the LGBT thread for suggesting a "gay men only" thread. He said he couldn't really relate much to Lesbians.

Honestly I kinda sorta get it. r/LGBT is basically r/T most days for example. And sometimes you just want to post about Christ Pratt or some dude and have "bro-talk" without other subject matter.

In my experience any LGBT space is mostly about gay men and gay men only so I'm kinda shocked. The LGBT thread at gaf being a great example. It's mostly just gay and bi dudes. In any case, I like men. So I don't see why you couldn't chat about men? Chris Pratt is okay.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: thehunter116 on October 30, 2017, 02:09:57 PM
What is a queer? Is that the extra flamboyent gay people?
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on October 30, 2017, 02:11:04 PM
Queers are those people with the purple hair and their stupid ideology shit. They're basically LGBT radicals who have hijacked the LGBT for their own personal shit like trying to "end gender" and other faggotry.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: meeb on October 30, 2017, 02:17:16 PM
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There's like 3 gay dudes on this forum. Enjoy your dead community thread.

I love dead things.

But hey I figure gay guys could be incentivized to be more active if they weren't repelled by the queers, like I am.

I don't like the queers either. Post your gay shit IMO.

wat. is that really a thing?

There were one or two gay GAFFers who got dogpiled and lepered by the LGBT thread for suggesting a "gay men only" thread. He said he couldn't really relate much to Lesbians.

Honestly I kinda sorta get it. r/LGBT is basically r/T most days for example. And sometimes you just want to post about Christ Pratt or some dude and have "bro-talk" without other subject matter.

In my experience any LGBT space is mostly about gay men and gay men only so I'm kinda shocked. The LGBT thread at gaf being a great example. It's mostly just gay and bi dudes. In any case, I like men. So I don't see why you couldn't chat about men? Chris Pratt is okay.

Oh I agree. The LGBT thread was largely a gay male space. That particular poster just was super unhappy about any Lesbian participation.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: winik on October 30, 2017, 03:16:44 PM
Oh I have no problems with lesbians, I'm all about that homo-les alliance. But yeah by queers I mean the stupid ideology shit so this thread isnt that bad tbh, I was really drunk last night so I didn't really read it. Maybe tumblr ruined me but I just don't wanna be around non-gays in the community sense. So very many virulent and horrifying homophobes in the queer community.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: meeb on October 30, 2017, 03:49:20 PM
I think I understand what you mean.

There was a time where LGBT GAF had people outright arguing that "sexuality is a spectrum, everyone is pansexual but lets cultural norms get in the way."

And I got shit on for saying that that is literally "being gay is a choice."

I had to argue that I was gay (not pan/bi/fluid/whatever) in a fucking LGBT thread. Madness.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on October 30, 2017, 04:25:32 PM
Fuck queers.

Okay, don't fuck them. No one wants that.

Trans people have had similar experiences with those tumblr types. I say we dump em. It's why I deliberately never say LGTBQ. Because fuck queers.

Post hot boyz plz.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: meeb on October 30, 2017, 04:29:01 PM
Cant do that at work.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on October 30, 2017, 04:35:16 PM
Are any of you in relationships?

I'm not. I need cuddles! :(
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: thisismyusername on October 30, 2017, 04:38:25 PM
"Hmm, someone else paints their nails..." *swipes on bald dude with painted nails, stray hairs sticking up in photos after that one* "Ugh... *swipe right*"

If you're gonna put yourself on the meat-market, at least making sure your stray-hairs from baldness doesn't turn people off. #Superficial
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: meeb on October 30, 2017, 04:41:13 PM
Are any of you in relationships?

I'm not. I need cuddles! :(

Yes. Older guy... like way older (12 years older). Meh. Met him at a board gaming group. Similar interests. Similar world views. I'm enjoying it, but I'll admit its a bit weird and if I had more confidence maybe we wouldn't be in a relationship. But I'm happy and not going to toss this away just to find something a bit more socially acceptable. Plus, the gay dating scene is scary. I ain't gonna jump back in.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on October 30, 2017, 04:44:55 PM
"Hmm, someone else paints their nails..." *swipes on bald dude with painted nails, stray hairs sticking up in photos after that one* "Ugh... *swipe right*"

If you're gonna put yourself on the meat-market, at least making sure your stray-hairs from baldness doesn't turn people off. #Superficial

Read him, bb.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: thisismyusername on October 30, 2017, 04:47:15 PM
Eh, what really put me off is his teeth. :doge I mean I was swiping and going "ok, he's not that bad. *swipe, hair* Ugh, okay maybe that's just a bad da--*teeth, insta-swipe "no"*"

Also I still have yet to actually get a message from any of my matches, male or female. It's fucking weird. You see Atra talking about getting messages all the time or something and NOPE. I get better luck from "want sum fuk?" apps, and those are at times where I'm like "gurl, it's Sunday night and I worked today and I have work tomorrow. Go ask someone else if they want their dick sucked and leave me the hell alone. :doge "
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on October 30, 2017, 04:56:20 PM
Are any of you in relationships?

I'm not. I need cuddles! :(

Yes. Older guy... like way older (12 years older). Meh. Met him at a board gaming group. Similar interests. Similar world views. I'm enjoying it, but I'll admit its a bit weird and if I had more confidence maybe we wouldn't be in a relationship. But I'm happy and not going to toss this away just to find something a bit more socially acceptable. Plus, the gay dating scene is scary. I ain't gonna jump back in.

Seems fine. Do you love him?
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: winik on October 30, 2017, 05:13:39 PM
I'm in a pseudo-relationship with a guy 12 years older than me, guess you could say were long term friends with benefits seeing as its nearing four years since we got together. And speaking of apps my favorite past time is getting distinguished mentally-challenged drunk and making an ass out of myself on grindr, fun chats with gay dudes and the occasional dick pic. Its great.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: meeb on November 01, 2017, 09:47:18 PM
Are any of you in relationships?

I'm not. I need cuddles! :(

Yes. Older guy... like way older (12 years older). Meh. Met him at a board gaming group. Similar interests. Similar world views. I'm enjoying it, but I'll admit its a bit weird and if I had more confidence maybe we wouldn't be in a relationship. But I'm happy and not going to toss this away just to find something a bit more socially acceptable. Plus, the gay dating scene is scary. I ain't gonna jump back in.

Seems fine. Do you love him?

Late response, but yes. I think I do. I'm happy when I'm with him.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: naff on November 01, 2017, 10:01:21 PM
Queers are those people with the purple hair and their stupid ideology shit. They're basically LGBT radicals who have hijacked the LGBT for their own personal shit like trying to "end gender" and other faggotry.

Lol, i dont want to get into this discussion, but this is the most dismissive, reductive and cold comment on queer theory ive read. Liked.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on November 14, 2017, 12:34:35 AM
Queers are those people with the purple hair and their stupid ideology shit. They're basically LGBT radicals who have hijacked the LGBT for their own personal shit like trying to "end gender" and other faggotry.

Lol, i dont want to get into this discussion, but this is the most dismissive, reductive and cold comment on queer theory ive read. Liked.

Thank you so much for the support.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: thisismyusername on November 14, 2017, 05:03:38 PM
wat. is that really a thing?

There were one or two gay GAFFers who got dogpiled and lepered by the LGBT thread for suggesting a "gay men only" thread. He said he couldn't really relate much to Lesbians.

Honestly I kinda sorta get it. r/LGBT is basically r/T most days for example. And sometimes you just want to post about Christ Pratt or some dude and have "bro-talk" without other subject matter.

He got dog piled because Cindi is right: That thread is/was about 80% gay dudes. There is really no/little lesbian/women there. It was a dumb thing to put out there.

You have /r/GayBros if you want to bro it up and then whine about "femme-men" while being bitchier than said femme-men you hate.

Unless a moderator tells you to knock it off, there's nothing stopping you from posting subject matters you give a damn about in those threads. I'm so tired of that clique-ish mentality, and it's a valid thing to complain about but really: Nobody is stopping anyone from doing what they want.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: blaze on November 14, 2017, 06:48:12 PM

Yes. Older guy... like way older (12 years older). Meh. Met him at a board gaming group. Similar interests. Similar world views. I'm enjoying it, but I'll admit its a bit weird and if I had more confidence maybe we wouldn't be in a relationship. But I'm happy and not going to toss this away just to find something a bit more socially acceptable. Plus, the gay dating scene is scary. I ain't gonna jump back in.
I was nearly in something quite similar a few years back. Way older guy was into me and I kinda rolled with it for a while, I'm attracted to older guys, but idk I never felt comfortable with him.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on November 14, 2017, 07:01:42 PM
wat. is that really a thing?

There were one or two gay GAFFers who got dogpiled and lepered by the LGBT thread for suggesting a "gay men only" thread. He said he couldn't really relate much to Lesbians.

Honestly I kinda sorta get it. r/LGBT is basically r/T most days for example. And sometimes you just want to post about Christ Pratt or some dude and have "bro-talk" without other subject matter.

He got dog piled because Cindi is right: That thread is/was about 80% gay dudes. There is really no/little lesbian/women there.

Or bi or trans in that thread.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: blaze on November 14, 2017, 07:04:50 PM
Or bi or trans in that thread.
Is the RE one the same? It seemed like it when I popped my head in for a minute.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on November 14, 2017, 07:15:31 PM
i haven't had any reason to go to the RE one.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: thisismyusername on November 14, 2017, 07:48:24 PM
wat. is that really a thing?

There were one or two gay GAFFers who got dogpiled and lepered by the LGBT thread for suggesting a "gay men only" thread. He said he couldn't really relate much to Lesbians.

Honestly I kinda sorta get it. r/LGBT is basically r/T most days for example. And sometimes you just want to post about Christ Pratt or some dude and have "bro-talk" without other subject matter.

He got dog piled because Cindi is right: That thread is/was about 80% gay dudes. There is really no/little lesbian/women there.

Or bi or trans in that thread.

There was a few bisexual men in there, Sai being one. But they weren't in numbers. The thing is: It had a ton of men in there, so the whole "I just want to talk with gay men only plz" was such a :confused thing. I got tired of the GAF thread because it went in cycles. Apparently they have a discord but I never joined up. I have 2-3 of them on Discord and Instagram (which I don't even use) simply because those were the ones I had some conversations/interests with, so... :yeshrug about the apocalypse of GAF on that front.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on November 14, 2017, 07:53:27 PM
Emphasis on bi men
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: TVC15 on November 14, 2017, 07:55:52 PM
Emphasis on bi men

About as real as transracial people

Wow, transracial was in my phone’s autocorrect dictionary. I guess Apple believes it’s real.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 15, 2017, 06:57:05 AM
Are there any fellow bbqs here? I feel icky talking to the other parts of the "lbgtbbq community".
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Sai on November 18, 2017, 10:26:57 PM
There no limit on the community threads right? So if someone wanted a gay and gay only thread he could do that right? So if anyone wants to do that I would love to join that community.

do the community a favor and off yourself lmao
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Sai on November 18, 2017, 11:20:30 PM
i miss phil-x
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: winik on November 18, 2017, 11:35:07 PM
There no limit on the community threads right? So if someone wanted a gay and gay only thread he could do that right? So if anyone wants to do that I would love to join that community.

do the community a favor and off yourself lmao

Damn yo I decide to check thebore just now and told to kill myself.  I thought this would be the reaction I got about wanting a gay only community, which would include solidarity with lesbians obvi. The “community” makes absolutely no sense, all non gay people are anti gay. Only gay men and lesbians have anything in common I have no idea why I’m expected to care about the rest of you. I thought it would cool to have a place to talk with other gay people without transes talking about gay people having disgusting genital fetishes that we need to accept the lady dick or man pussy. Without bis whining about not being seen as queer when they’re in straight relationships and just being horrible to gay people and wondering why don’t gay people want to be around them. I don’t mean you sai I mean all of your ilk. Most gay men and lesbians have bi horror stories. The reputation bis got among gay people is well earned.

You never should have been included, honestly I don’t why the mistakes of the gay community of America in the 80s should continue to haunt gay people now. Frankly I hate the rest of you, you all say such horrible shit about gay people. So bifilth do gay people a solid after you get caught cheating on your wife with a man, behind your white picket fence, while your 2.5 children play in the yard, don’t hesitate to blow your brains out

That said I like it here, mainly because I don’t feel the need to pretend I give a shit about the trials and tribulations of irritating dipshits Im expected to care about just cause I’m gay. And curiosity are there any lesbians here? I found a wonderful group of lesbians and gay men on tumblr and I’d like to keep the good gay train going.

Oh and Reddit still has “gay” trans men and bis married to women so that’s a shit hole like everywhere it’s seems. Hmm thems the breaks I guess, oh well
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on November 18, 2017, 11:51:32 PM
I simply do not get the genital preference thing. Like, why would you shame someone for preferring genitals? It makes no sense!
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Sai on November 19, 2017, 12:01:54 AM
There no limit on the community threads right? So if someone wanted a gay and gay only thread he could do that right? So if anyone wants to do that I would love to join that community.

do the community a favor and off yourself lmao

Damn yo I decide to check thebore just now and told to kill myself.  I thought this would be the reaction I got about wanting a gay only community, which would include solidarity with lesbians obvi. The “community” makes absolutely no sense, all non gay people are anti gay. Only gay men and lesbians have anything in common I have no idea why I’m expected to care about the rest of you. I thought it would cool to have a place to talk with other gay people without transes talking about gay people having disgusting genital fetishes that we need to accept the lady dick or man pussy. Without bis whining about not being seen as queer when they’re in straight relationships and just being horrible to gay people and wondering why don’t gay people want to be around them. I don’t mean you sai I mean all of your ilk. Most gay men and lesbians have bi horror stories. The reputation bis got among gay people is well earned.

You never should have been included, honestly I don’t why the mistakes of the gay community of America in the 80s should continue to haunt gay people now. Frankly I hate the rest of you, you all say such horrible shit about gay people. So bifilth do gay people a solid after you get caught cheating on your wife with a man, behind your white picket fence, while your 2.5 children play in the yard, don’t hesitate to blow your brains out

That said I like it here, mainly because I don’t feel the need to pretend I give a shit about the trials and tribulations of irritating dipshits Im expected to care about just cause I’m gay. And curiosity are there any lesbians here? I found a wonderful group of lesbians and gay men on tumblr and I’d like to keep the good gay train going.

Oh and Reddit still has “gay” trans men and bis married to women so that’s a shit hole like everywhere it’s seems. Hmm thems the breaks I guess, oh well

do the community a favor and off yourself lmao
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: winik on November 19, 2017, 12:11:48 AM
Hmm why do all of you BTQs have the same typing patterns. Like the whole luh maw thing and attempts at being condescending. You ever whine about gate keeping?

And honestly Cindi Mayweather you seem cool, I was surprised that there are trans people that don’t think conversion therapy is a good thing.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on November 19, 2017, 12:18:10 AM
Hmm why do all of you BTQs have the same typing patterns. Like the whole luh maw thing and attempts at being condescending. You ever whine about gate keeping?

And honestly Cindi Mayweather you seem cool, I was surprised that there are trans people that don’t think conversion therapy is a good thing.

It is ridiculous. I. LIKE. DICK. I see nothing wrong with having a preference for men with DICKS. THAT SHOOT SEMEN. THAT IS WHAT I WANT. Anything else is kink shaming. Are they truly sex positive like they claim to be?!
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Sai on November 19, 2017, 12:18:53 AM
that sounds gay idk it
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 19, 2017, 04:35:16 AM
Any fellow bbqs wanna talk about disgusting genital fetishes?

All hail the manpussy!
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: winik on November 20, 2017, 03:28:47 AM
I don't get it are HardcoreRetro part of the whiner non gays or not, I know sai is. You can pretend you don't know what I'm talking about but all gay people see what is happening whether the bis see it or not.

The mainstream lgbtbbq crap is that gay people need to be love the opposite sex, like you can pretend you don't know what I'm talking about but I know bi people believe that gay people are restrictive for no reason.

Hey did you know that bis have influenced conversion therapy? Bi always say hearts not part and now conversion therapist are picking on your vileness. Its called SAFE-T "sexual attraction fluidity exploration in therapy". See the fruits of bi labour here http://anglicanmainstream.org/sexual-attraction-fluidity-exploration-in-therapy-safe-t/

So bi filth read it and weep, I know all bis don't care about gay people but if any lesbian comes across this they will know that gay men got their back.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 20, 2017, 08:28:23 AM
I'm just making fun of you cause you come in here acting as if you need a gay thread, when this place in general seems to be pretty damn inclusive. People also are willing to listen to anything you have to say in here.

I'm not sure if there's bi people here but they're probably not batting for the camp that wants to turn homosexual people straight. (or maybe I'm putting too much faith in the bore community.)
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: agrajag on November 20, 2017, 09:50:41 AM
OMG it just dawned on me! The evil Bifilth want to turn everyone bi, gays and straights. Gays and straights must join forces to stop the bi hordes once and for all. The unlikely alliance must be forged lest we are overrun by vile bisexual prostitutes. Novid warned us, Novid fucking warned us.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: hungrynoob on November 20, 2017, 10:14:18 AM
Pretty sure the bi-bashing prettymuch goes against what the lgbt movement set out to achieve.

People wont be happy unless theres some cunt to complain about.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on November 20, 2017, 10:23:05 AM
Can you please not be shit on bi people?
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Sai on November 20, 2017, 10:57:04 AM
I don't get it are HardcoreRetro part of the whiner non gays or not, I know sai is. You can pretend you don't know what I'm talking about but all gay people see what is happening whether the bis see it or not.

The mainstream lgbtbbq crap is that gay people need to be love the opposite sex, like you can pretend you don't know what I'm talking about but I know bi people believe that gay people are restrictive for no reason.

Hey did you know that bis have influenced conversion therapy? Bi always say hearts not part and now conversion therapist are picking on your vileness. Its called SAFE-T "sexual attraction fluidity exploration in therapy". See the fruits of bi labour here http://anglicanmainstream.org/sexual-attraction-fluidity-exploration-in-therapy-safe-t/

So bi filth read it and weep, I know all bis don't care about gay people but if any lesbian comes across this they will know that gay men got their back.

please seek help!!! we are all very concerned about u :(
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 20, 2017, 11:11:29 AM
Can you please not be shit on bi people?

Hehehehe, shit on by people. I don't think he's consenting to any of it. It's out of his hands.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: winik on November 20, 2017, 02:27:13 PM
OK OK my bad I thought it was done and buried because I made that comment weeks ago and already got set straight. Then after that I get told to kill myself, by some bi piece of shit, so I got angry. I made that post because I thought man why do I always have to be lumped in with the non gays cant gay people have something on their own, like ever? But the point was moot because this thread isn't some queer fuckery.

My point about bis influencing conversion therapy is true tho
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Sai on November 20, 2017, 03:29:59 PM
you guys have drag race  :-[
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Sai on November 22, 2017, 11:52:08 AM
winik please post if ur okay
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on November 22, 2017, 01:31:49 PM
i love drag race and need to catch up
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: TVC15 on November 22, 2017, 01:48:12 PM
i love drag race and need to catch up

All Stars 3 in January! Should be a trailer soon.

Praise the true all time Queen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0puLP2ibHZo
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on November 22, 2017, 03:10:07 PM
God I hope LaGanja is on All Stars 3, house of edwards all day :tonguepop

I’m pretty sure her meltdown on her season can be directly shown to be from marijuana withdrawals
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: TVC15 on November 22, 2017, 03:46:55 PM
God I hope LaGanja is on All Stars 3, house of edwards all day :tonguepop

I’m pretty sure her meltdown on her season can be directly shown to be from marijuana withdrawals

They released the cast list. She ain’t on. I’m sure they’d have her, but she’s said she wouldn’t go through that again.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on November 22, 2017, 03:51:17 PM
You know there’s always a surprise or two! But yeah.

They should just have Alyssa show up last episode and yank the crown she deserved all along
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: TVC15 on November 22, 2017, 04:03:27 PM
I do like the cast for AS3. Pretty much all of them. The promo photo is, as always, sickening.

(https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/vulture/2017/10/23/23-ru-pauls-all-stars.w1200.h630.jpg)

Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: thisismyusername on November 22, 2017, 04:56:22 PM
I really wish all seasons of Drag Race were available on digital stores. :doge
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on November 22, 2017, 05:02:54 PM
that image is god like wew
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on November 22, 2017, 05:03:44 PM
Hopefully kim chi isn't bad at drag beyond makeup/art skills still
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: TVC15 on November 22, 2017, 05:18:08 PM
Hopefully kim chi isn't bad at drag beyond makeup/art skills still

Kim's fun live. I've seen her twice, both times with other queens. She's very funny and charming.

I really wish all seasons of Drag Race were available on digital stores. :doge

Isn't only the first season missing? The clips I've seen make the first season look really cheap--I think some of it was literally filmed in RuPaul's garage.

Have you guys watched Dragula? That's pretty fun, too. Season 2 is currently going.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on November 22, 2017, 05:36:51 PM
So she just came off badly on drag race?
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on November 22, 2017, 05:52:35 PM
Kim chi is hilarious
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: thisismyusername on November 22, 2017, 05:56:14 PM
TVC: Nah, IIRC All-Stars Season 1 and season 2-5 aren't available either.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: TVC15 on November 22, 2017, 06:13:07 PM
TVC: Nah, IIRC All-Stars Season 1 and season 2-5 aren't available either.

They're for sale on Amazon. Do you live outside 'merica or something?

So she just came off badly on drag race?

I didn't like her much on the show. I think she's just improved since then.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: thisismyusername on November 22, 2017, 06:53:10 PM
TVC: Nah, IIRC All-Stars Season 1 and season 2-5 aren't available either.

They're for sale on Amazon. Do you live outside 'merica or something?

No, but I'm one of those weirdo's that'd rather have the complete collection to binge watch to catch up more than anything.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Broseidon on November 24, 2017, 01:52:51 PM
i miss phil-x

hang around with skinhead biker gangs and get HIV due to low-key bugchasing, brehs
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Sai on November 28, 2017, 01:48:55 PM
i miss phil-x

hang around with skinhead biker gangs and get HIV due to low-key bugchasing, brehs

ahh...gay male culture :)
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: winik on November 28, 2017, 04:38:47 PM
winik please post if ur okay

I hope you die Sai.

Analway that guy you lot are talking about I think I remember, he held someone who was bleeding and that's how be got HIV. Weird how I know that.

People don't really view males who only want dick as being a kink do they? I mean outside of tumblr and the like. That's what being gay is, if you don't like dick exclusively you're not gay. I've never been to some lgBTTTTTTTTTTT"gays should be thrown off buildings"TTTTTTTTT fuckshit so hey mayhaps that is how it is. I mean you people have a strangle hold on modern discourse.

Where I diverge from transes and bis is that they think that man loving dick exclusively is a horrible thing that needs to be eradicated.

Genitally I cant believe there's gay people who don't see what I see. I want cock and only that but that is a gential fetish and transphobic. Can you not read the signs or?? is you stupid?? The BT portion of the bullshit acronym would love to see us tortured. You can't actually believe that telling gay people they are scum and bigots is a good thing.

Maybe you're not gay because otherwise yeeeeesh
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on November 28, 2017, 04:45:07 PM

Where I diverge from transes and bis is that they think that man loving dick exclusively is a horrible thing that needs to be eradicated.

There's nothing wrong with this. Jesus Christ,  you're delirious.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: winik on November 28, 2017, 04:53:15 PM

There's nothing wrong with this. Jesus Christ,  you're delirious.

You say this yet your movement says I need to examine why I only want men with dicks. "Examine" like can you not see that is horrid. The trans movement demands that I examine why I want cock only. That's mainstream, Riley j penis is considered neutral or introductory yet the message boils down to gay people need examine why they don't love the opposite sex like they should.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on November 28, 2017, 05:19:44 PM
I don't know any trans person who questions that besides the radicals from tumblr who are distinguished mentally-challenged.

if it's mainstream you should certainly be able to provide evidence.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: TVC15 on November 28, 2017, 05:28:44 PM
I can't even tell what this discussion is about. Can I get a primer, Cindi?
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on November 28, 2017, 05:30:07 PM
Winnk says gay men are oppressed in the lgbt community and told that it's bad to be gay because liking exclusively one sex is bad. He says this is mainstream and I have literally no idea what he's talking about.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: TVC15 on November 28, 2017, 05:38:07 PM
Winnk says gay men are oppressed in the lgbt community and told that it's bad to be gay because liking exclusively one sex is bad. He says this is mainstream and I have literally no idea what he's talking about.

That's downright Novidian.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: winik on November 28, 2017, 05:44:27 PM
no no i don't think gay men are oppressed in the lgbeepo community what I'm saying is that the BT part of the acronym are no different from the rest of the world and are the opressers of the LG. You're no different from the norm because you believe that gay men and lesbians should be corrected. I view trans and bi people like I view christians, inherently homophobic and desiring a time when gay people could be tortured into submission. It may not be mainstream where you're from but thats a lie lol this is the main thought errywhere. Like just think about the ramifications if a gay man or lesbian said they were gay because they like the same sex exclusively. Trans people and their allies would be calling for their heads. Believe its only on tumblr but that is what i see in any BBBTTTTTT article nowadays.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on November 28, 2017, 05:45:17 PM
Stfu and post evidence.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Broseidon on November 28, 2017, 05:48:53 PM
alternatively just top yourself (https://i.imgur.com/Oe0M3Jj.png)
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: winik on November 28, 2017, 06:00:50 PM
ok who the hell is novid?

also I dunno about evidence or shit, like if one trans said it they all said it. I mean shit the concept of gay trans person means that a straight person can slink into gay or lesbian communities OR ELES!!! that says it all TBH
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on November 28, 2017, 06:16:57 PM
you said it was mainstream. If you cannot provide evidence you are full of shit. No one knows wtf you're talking about.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on November 28, 2017, 06:17:51 PM
Ok, Winik is a troll. Don't respond to him. He's a re re.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: blaze on November 28, 2017, 06:46:15 PM
Probably the strangest thing I've ever read about lgbt community wtf
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on November 28, 2017, 06:47:40 PM
It’s like, a gay version of the “male oppression” that the alt right is “combating”
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: winik on November 28, 2017, 07:18:23 PM
you cunts

The whole gay people need to be fixed is apart of trans activism.  Even if there are trans people like cindi mayweather the main thrust is that gay men and woman need to consider the opposite sex as date able. fuck you dumb pieces of shit fuck

Gay men you want pussy? lesbians you want dick? if you say no then transpacific teehehehehe. fuck

seriously bi people already love the opposite sex that why they view conversion therapy as good, holy shit dudes. The BT want us to be tortured into straight relationships.

GUNT

im not a troll tbh i just love being caustic
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: winik on November 28, 2017, 07:27:04 PM
excuse? fucker please

I just does no other gay person view the "community" the same way as me??? well they do obvi thats why im here but like jesus yall are dumb as shit the LGBTLWDBQIOWUG community would see you killed before they believe being gay is natural and acceptable.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on November 28, 2017, 08:01:15 PM
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why do I always have to be lumped in with the non gays

Newsfeed
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: winik on November 28, 2017, 08:08:29 PM
Bars
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: TVC15 on November 28, 2017, 08:58:08 PM
excuse? fucker please

I just does no other gay person view the "community" the same way as me??? well they do obvi thats why im here but like jesus yall are dumb as shit the LGBTLWDBQIOWUG community would see you killed before they believe being gay is natural and acceptable.

yaere is th.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: winik on November 28, 2017, 09:08:40 PM
Que? is that a person or?

Am I boiling the bi/trans talking points down too much? Lets get some level ground, is the argument that gay people need to examine why they don't want to date trans people acceptable yes or no. Regardless of surgeries and shit, like could i as a gay man find out the person i was flirting with was born a woman and cease communication be acceptable or not.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: TVC15 on November 28, 2017, 09:16:39 PM
Not many people would have a problem with that. Unless you were rude about it or something.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on November 28, 2017, 10:14:42 PM
That's completely fine.

Only a specific niche of trans people think there's a problem with that and they're all distinguished mentally-challenged fellows. I'm trans and while I'm open minded, my main perogative is a man with a penis.

Instead of making an ass out of yourself you should have just said this shit since no one in this fucking thread once said otherwise you dumb daddy fucker.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Sai on November 28, 2017, 10:35:12 PM
you cunts

The whole gay people need to be fixed is apart of trans activism.  Even if there are trans people like cindi mayweather the main thrust is that gay men and woman need to consider the opposite sex as date able. fuck you dumb pieces of shit fuck

Gay men you want pussy? lesbians you want dick? if you say no then transpacific teehehehehe. fuck

seriously bi people already love the opposite sex that why they view conversion therapy as good, holy shit dudes. The BT want us to be tortured into straight relationships.

GUNT

im not a troll tbh i just love being caustic

did u mean u love being autistic?
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Sai on November 28, 2017, 10:36:20 PM
you should make a topic just for gay male autists :) you'd have half the forum in there in no time
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: kingv on November 28, 2017, 10:42:01 PM
I just feel like if you spend all this time on estrogen supplements and learning to act like a chick just to end up dating a man with a pussy and a 1 inch clit on testosterone, what was the fucking point of it all?
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: agrajag on November 29, 2017, 05:08:27 AM
I just feel like if you spend all this time on estrogen supplements and learning to act like a chick just to end up dating a man with a pussy and a 1 inch clit on testosterone, what was the fucking point of it all?

the heart wants what the heart wants bro
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: TVC15 on November 29, 2017, 05:19:57 AM
I just feel like if you spend all this time on estrogen supplements and learning to act like a chick just to end up dating a man with a pussy and a 1 inch clit on testosterone, what was the fucking point of it all?

Maybe Cindi can correct me here, but roughly a third (transman and transwoman) of these folks end up being homosexual with their targeted sex. This is a space where logic isn’t quite intuitive. God fucked up bad.

Can you comment, Cindi? My data is kinda old.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on November 29, 2017, 08:39:10 AM
I dunno about the data but sounds about right.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 29, 2017, 10:15:30 AM
I get what Winnetou is on about.

They're trying to turn the gays frog!

Please buy my supplements on the hardcoreretro.store.uk
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: winik on November 30, 2017, 03:22:26 PM
you should make a topic just for gay male autists :) you'd have half the forum in there in no time

This seems more like a burn on thebore community than me, but I hope you die sai.

Anyway so when trans activists and their allies say that we are reducing people down to their genitals by exclusively liking the same sex most trans people think that is fucking stupid? Like when those bastards say because of this I don’t like men I only like dick and thus have a genital fetish most of you would say that is beyond distinguished mentally-challenged? I find the hard to believe… I guess this is what people mean that university campuses are a bubble. I want to believe that most people who consider themselves progressive would not pressure, guilt, or coerce lesbians and gay men to like the opposite sex. But I just haven’t seen that, they say it in sneaky manner but when I’m told that I should probably think about why I only want dick I feel like I’m a self-hating teenager again believing myself to be disgusting. I didn’t go through puberty thinking about killing myself to then meet the lgbtqia fuckwits telling me I need to reconsider why I don’t want vag. It sickened me to the point I began to hate the rest of the so called community. Dramatic as that sounds.

But it also infuriated me. It’s so refreshing to say it too, I hate you. Call me a genital fetishist then I’ll say you’re scum, burn in hell, etc. Hell exists and it’s only for queers. I guess it good to know that most of you didn’t get what I was talking about, my inability to explain aside. I will never consider bi and trans people my community, I’m certain of that. But at least this shit isn’t mainstream. At least not yet.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Sai on November 30, 2017, 03:37:09 PM
This seems more like a burn on thebore community than me, but I hope you die sai.

hey can any mods reading this add this to the news feed? thanks in advance

Edit: To be real, for once, I've literally never heard the term 'genital fetish' or 'genital fetishist' in my life before you started posting and unloading all your weird shit about it. I don't think it's a real 'thing'.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: winik on November 30, 2017, 04:05:14 PM
They may not say it like that but these people think sexuality is all about gender, so because I like men this must mean all men, as in transmen. And if I say no me love the cock this transphobic, reducing people to their genitals because people are more than that and if a transman is my type and a person I like I must chow down on that pussy. Because why other than transphobia would I reject a man who is exactly what I want but doesn't have to the genitals I "prefer". The preference shit kills me too, I don't prefer dick I need it. Have you never seen that idea expressed? Maybe not the exact wording but like the idea people need to see beyond the dick/pussy and see the person. Because that's basically what that is, its objectifying or shallow what ever they say and gay people need to examine why we don't want man pussy, lady dick.

Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Trent Dole on November 30, 2017, 04:11:12 PM
Everyone should just be who they want and fuck who they want (within the realm of legality, obvs). :-[
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on November 30, 2017, 04:32:04 PM
They may not say it like that but these people think sexuality is all about gender, so because I like men this must mean all men, as in transmen. And if I say no me love the cock this transphobic, reducing people to their genitals because people are more than that and if a transman is my type and a person I like I must chow down on that pussy. Because why other than transphobia would I reject a man who is exactly what I want but doesn't have to the genitals I "prefer". The preference shit kills me too, I don't prefer dick I need it. Have you never seen that idea expressed? Maybe not the exact wording but like the idea people need to see beyond the dick/pussy and see the person. Because that's basically what that is, its objectifying or shallow what ever they say and gay people need to examine why we don't want man pussy, lady dick.

Fuck those people. Stop thinking those quacks represent the entire "community" and move the fuck on. I'm trans and like men and I'll kill anyone who shames me for wanting a man with a dick.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: thisismyusername on November 30, 2017, 04:35:16 PM
seriously bi people already love the opposite sex that why they view conversion therapy as good, holy shit dudes.

:what

No seriously: :mindblown WTF are you going on about. #NotAllBis and all that, but I have never heard someone say that as a bisexual.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: TVC15 on November 30, 2017, 04:46:45 PM
What are your opinions of prostitution, winik?
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: winik on November 30, 2017, 04:58:57 PM
What are your opinions of prostitution, winik?

 ??? uh its bad for woman, leading to horrific instances of sexual violence.

To thisismyusername I dunno  I mostly saw bi people defending and arguing the idea gay people need to see beyond genitals. This idea that gay people need to open their legs minds to both sexes wouldn't in anyway effect you lot so why would you fight against it.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: TVC15 on November 30, 2017, 05:16:01 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/rPNCqww.jpg)
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: winik on November 30, 2017, 05:26:18 PM
I don’t get it
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Rufus on November 30, 2017, 05:37:54 PM
I don’t get it
You're being compared to this person:
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=39992
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: winik on November 30, 2017, 05:45:00 PM
Is novid a person who doesn't think prostitution is a good thing? I've seen that comparison before "downright novidian". Was this dude from gaf or? Why is he so bad, I lurked a lot but only people I hated I learned the name of.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Sai on December 08, 2017, 09:46:55 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/XbQSbqr.jpg)

this makes me laugh every single time
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on December 10, 2017, 04:28:06 PM
Child abuse.

https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/zmynd9/stop-gendering-your-baby
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on December 11, 2017, 06:39:34 PM
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/domenick-scudera/dear-mary-cheney-here-are_b_6589910.html

THIS ARTICLE IS SO GOOD AND I CANNOT FUCKING BELIEVE THAT IT COMES FROM HUFFPO OF ALL PLACES.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on December 16, 2017, 04:48:15 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/5sH5MJd_d.jpg)

:rejoice
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: thisismyusername on December 21, 2017, 05:43:17 PM
Today on racist TIMU™ posts about the black/PoC gay community™:

https://twitter.com/Travon/status/943889938248077312

https://twitter.com/RickyJMarc/status/943892371401568257

https://twitter.com/AnnaVanValin/status/943919618946580481

:dead

https://twitter.com/TDUN1/status/943945040275169280

:dead :dead

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Am I posting these to hide my racism, or do I just hate black antagonism toward whites that they could win over with other methods?

(https://i.imgur.com/fQi6h1d.gif)

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Ignore that, I'm fanning the flames.
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Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: etiolate on December 21, 2017, 06:07:03 PM
What interracial relationship?
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: TVC15 on December 21, 2017, 06:43:26 PM
What interracial relationship?

DJ/Maz
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on December 21, 2017, 06:46:52 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/5sH5MJd_d.jpg)

:rejoice

why is this image so small? Why is the bore automatically resizing images?!
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: thisismyusername on December 21, 2017, 07:19:48 PM
What interracial relationship?

Supposedly Rey and What'sHisFaceCloneTrooperStormTrooper. But I don't see that. Fans that ship are putting WHFCTST with What'sHisFacePilotOnlyThereForLike10MinutesInTheFirstOfNuNuTrilogy
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Sai on December 25, 2017, 11:43:50 AM
merry gaymas

bake the fucking cake
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on December 26, 2017, 02:30:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvhZqZT1JEA

Piper!!!! :heartbeat
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Sai on January 02, 2018, 05:51:13 PM
i wonder if winik ever killed themselves
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on January 03, 2018, 10:15:57 AM
Continuing this here.


:confused

I never said nor claimed these cases are trans. They are merely examples of people who are impacted by birth and gender identity. That's all. My point was not that they are trans at all. My point is that claiming "trans women are not women because they have XX chromosomes" does not stand to scrutiny given the evidence that we have clear cut cases of exactly the fucking opposite. Clearly, chromosomes are not all someone needs to be measured as a man or a woman. Therefore, deducing trans women to chromosomes is just bad argumentation. Because if one case gets an exception, other cases get exceptions.

And that's where you and science disagree. Just because there's a .0001% chance of a mutation does not mean that biologically and on the DNA level that they are female. That one case that you posted about having an XY DNA structure while having the body of a female is super super super super rare to where it does not make the "science" of biology moot. There's corner-cases in everything that doesn't make the scientific method invalid.

Like I said, thinking that rare case is a valid case that "transgenders trump biology" is messy thinking. I'm all for considering someone that transitition'd their "new" gender, but on the biological level they still have the XY/XX designation they had on birth which they can not change. Unless science and gene/body modifications suddenly blows up to where you can get that assigned designation, you're still your "original" gender at the base level.

Assimilate and Cindi should just hatefuck already and get it out of their system.

:yeshrug Can't disagree on that.

You have no idea what I'm talking about. I am literally saying that XY does not change. :confused What are you even disagreeing on? It's just an example, among multiple examples, to show that arguing that "trans women are not women because they are not biologically women" is a bad argument because there's multiple cases of things like this, not exactly lining up. Yeah. they're rare. But being trans is also rare. The point is to articulate that exceptions exist, not that trans people are among those exceptions. Jesus Christ. Trans women are biologically male. I never said otherwise.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: BlueTsunami on January 03, 2018, 07:45:14 PM
Today on racist TIMU™ posts about the black/PoC gay community™:

https://twitter.com/Travon/status/943889938248077312

https://twitter.com/RickyJMarc/status/943892371401568257

https://twitter.com/AnnaVanValin/status/943919618946580481

:dead

https://twitter.com/TDUN1/status/943945040275169280

:dead :dead

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Am I posting these to hide my racism, or do I just hate black antagonism toward whites that they could win over with other methods?

(https://i.imgur.com/fQi6h1d.gif)

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Ignore that, I'm fanning the flames.
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I love when Omar straight smooches his dude and their wingman is all damn nicca PDA but cant say shit
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: winik on January 04, 2018, 03:02:48 AM
i wonder if winik ever killed themselves

Goddamn it you fuck, cant a bitch lurk in peace.

And I dunno about using intersex people in the discussion of trans people, because there are intersex disorders that only effect males or females, indicating that there is no ambiguity about the fact that the human race is sexually dimorphic even with those rare mutations in mind. I mean some of those mutations result in infertility which is miles from a typical male or female that underwent typical development but is trans who is no different physically from the norm. On the physical level they are like any other person of their sex, while intersex people have physical attributes that result from their disorder. Trans people are not inherently different like intersex people are. There are intersex people that are trans I know, but its like all squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on January 04, 2018, 03:14:27 AM
The argument wasn't comparing intersex people to trans people.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Himu on January 13, 2018, 10:21:57 PM
I have written this and added it to the OP:

So I owe a massive apology for a lot of the things I've said not only in this post but also this thread at large. I have sinned greatly by the hurtful language and division I've written. I took a cause I legitimately feel is right and acted like a terrible person mocking people with it. I called non-binary people "fuck stain", called some of my lgbt brothers and sisters who identify as queer as participating in "faggotry". The things I've said have been awful and come from a place of insecurity. I'll be honest by saying I don't like the way the LGBT, and especially trans movements are going. I don't like participating in it and I don't like being a part of it, but that doesn't give me the right to shit on the actual people, which I have used my platform to do so. It was wrong, and I'm sorry. I hope anyone I have hurt can come to forgive me and hopefully try to guide me to being able to, even if I cannot accept their viewpoint, come to understand it without insulting it or the people who withhold it. In order for myself to repent for the division I've caused, I really need to lay off, stop talking, and just listen. Thank you for reading this. I won't erase or delete a single word I've said in this thread. It should be there to be seen because I will not hide who I am or capable of being, even if it's awful. It needs to be not hidden so people can impart a lesson from it.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on January 30, 2018, 08:40:10 PM
So y’all watching all Stars 3 or wha
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Sai on January 31, 2018, 12:02:52 PM
that shits mad gay
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: winik on February 24, 2018, 04:38:42 AM
Non bonaries are fucking stupid. Like Christ what is freer that there are two sexes and that’s it or there are unlimited genders so you must be one. Queers are still scum so like fuck em. And I’m late as fuck but I just got to say the andi dier situation is such a disgusting and perfect microcosm of trans activism its nuts. A racist rapist pedophile screams at Rose McGowan about white cis feminism.

Hell Rapey J Penis is still a thing and he still thinks lesbians must love dick so…

Hey did you know using two spirit while not native is racist as fuck?

forgot to say ive been watching all stars and chichi disappointed me.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Trent Dole on February 24, 2018, 06:17:41 AM
I don't even know what most of the post prior to this one even means. :doge
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: TVC15 on February 24, 2018, 03:33:00 PM
Might be going to this tonight. I’m expecting a lot of shade targeted at Thorgy Thor.

(https://i.imgur.com/MuTfECu.jpg)
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: HardcoreRetro on February 24, 2018, 03:35:37 PM
Wow, that looks like a Darren Aranofski film I'd actually want to see.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Sai on March 13, 2018, 12:35:03 AM
Non bonaries are fucking stupid. Like Christ what is freer that there are two sexes and that’s it or there are unlimited genders so you must be one. Queers are still scum so like fuck em. And I’m late as fuck but I just got to say the andi dier situation is such a disgusting and perfect microcosm of trans activism its nuts. A racist rapist pedophile screams at Rose McGowan about white cis feminism.

Hell Rapey J Penis is still a thing and he still thinks lesbians must love dick so…

Hey did you know using two spirit while not native is racist as fuck?

forgot to say ive been watching all stars and chichi disappointed me.
god

gay people are so fuckin weird lmao
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: BlueTsunami on March 13, 2018, 12:44:37 AM
Might be going to this tonight. I’m expecting a lot of shade targeted at Thorgy Thor.

(https://i.imgur.com/MuTfECu.jpg)

I think I just found my gender specificity
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: winik on March 13, 2018, 05:14:05 AM
Quote
god

gay people are so fuckin weird lmao

Is this cause of chichi? Cause like he A. looked cute. B. that should have been enough for him to win.

Because for the other reason queers still scum, non bonaries still stupid as fuck.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Sai on April 24, 2018, 05:03:33 PM
shout outs to winik. hope ur still fighting the distinguished mentally-challenged fellow fight.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: TVC15 on April 24, 2018, 05:20:07 PM
shout outs to winik. hope ur still fighting the distinguished mentally-challenged fellow fight.

Well, the distinguished mentally-challenged fellow party store called. They’re all out of winik.
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: winik on April 26, 2018, 04:09:51 AM
Damn bitch you keep thinking about me, how nice. I'm still right btw. The queers are out of control, have gay rights gone too far?
Title: Re: The new LGBTBBQ thread
Post by: Sai on April 26, 2018, 12:13:32 PM
bake the fucking cake, sis