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Title: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on October 04, 2017, 12:39:32 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Ln0vopo.jpg)



Made By Google 2019
Smartphones:

- Google Pixel 4 - $799 (64GB) and $899 (128GB)
- Google Pixel 4 XL - $899 (64GB) and $999 (128GB)

Laptop:

- Google Pixelbook Go
    - $649 (8th Gen Core m3, 8GB RAM, 64GB SSD)
    - $849 (8th Gen Core i5, 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD)
    - $999 (8th Gen Core i5, 16GB RAM, 128GB SSD)
    - $1399 (8th Gen Core i7, 16GB RAM, 256GB SSD)

Connected Home:

- Google Nest Mini (2nd Gen.) - $49
- Google Nest Wifi (2nd Gen.)
    - $169 (Router)
    - $149 (Point, also in three colors)
    - $269 (Router + 1 Point)
    - $349 (Router + 2 Points)

Other:

- Google Pixel Buds (2nd Gen.) - $179, coming Spring 2020
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Google I/O 2019
(https://i.imgur.com/alFWhKfl.jpg)

Smartphones:

- Google Pixel 3a - $399 (64GB)
- Google Pixel 3a XL - $479 (64GB)
- Buyers from the Google Store will receive $100 in store credit.

Connected Home:

- Google Nest Hub - $129 [$20 price drop + rebrand]
- Google Nest Hub Max - $229
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Made by Google 2018
(https://i.imgur.com/HymevAEl.png)

Smartphones:

- Google Pixel 3 - $799 (64GB) and $899 (128GB)
- Google Pixel 3 XL - $899 (64GB) and $999 (128GB)
- Buyers get unlimited full-res photo and video storage in Google Photos until 2022.
- Preorderers also get six free months of YouTube Music Premium (a $59.94 value.)

Tablet:

- Google Pixel Slate:
    - $599 (Celeron, 4GB RAM, 32GB SSD)
    - $699 (Celeron, 8GB RAM, 64GB SSD)
    - $799 (8th Gen Core m3, 8GB RAM, 64GB SSD)
    - $999 (8th Gen Core i5, 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD)
    - $1599 (8th Gen Core i7, 16GB RAM, 256GB SSD)
- Google Pixel Slate Keyboard - $199
- Google Pixelbook Pen (now in "Midnight Blue") - $99

Connected Home:

- Google Home Hub - $149
- Preorderers also get six free months of YouTube Premium (a $71.94 value.)

Other:

- Google Pixel Stand - $79
- Chromecast (3rd Gen., now in "Chalk" and "Charcoal") - $35
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Made by Google 2017
(https://i.imgur.com/kkBv65hl.jpg)

Smartphones:

- Google Pixel 2 - $649 (64GB) and $749 (128GB)
- Google Pixel 2 XL - $849 (64GB) and $949 (128GB)
- Buyers get unlimited full-res photo and video storage in Google Photos until 2020.
- Preorderers also get a free Google Home Mini ($49 value.)

Laptop:

- Google Pixelbook
    - $999 (7th Gen. Core i5, 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD)
    - $1199 (7th Gen. Core i5, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD)
    - $1649 (7th Gen. Core i7, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD)
- Google Pixelbook Pen - $99

Connected Home:

- Google Home Mini - $49
- Google Home Max - $399

Other:

- Google Pixel Buds - $159
- Google Daydream View (2nd Gen.) - $99
- Google Clips - $249
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Made by Google 2016
(https://i.imgur.com/JWvp5lIl.png)

Smartphones:

- Google Pixel - $649 (32GB) and $749 (128GB)
- Google Pixel XL - $769 (32GB) and $869 (128GB)
- Buyers get unlimited full-res photo and video storage in Google Photos for uploads from the device.

Other:

- Google Home - $129
- Google Wifi - $129
- Chromecast Ultra - $69
- Google Daydream View - $79
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Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 04, 2017, 12:59:05 PM
I really don't see the point of the Pixelbook. It's a large screen phone with a keyboard. For that much money I want an actual laptop
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on October 04, 2017, 01:05:38 PM
I really don't see the point of doofus
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: G The Resurrected on October 04, 2017, 01:10:06 PM
That HTC tech  :lol

I'll have my mini's here today. I'm looking forward to the new features for Chromecast that weren't covered in the presser yet. The same sound shaping is coming to all Chromecast enabled devices if you have Google home.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on October 04, 2017, 01:13:37 PM
Google Home broadcast works just like an intercom for the home (http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/10/04/google-home-broadcast-works-just-like-intercom-home/)

Google annouces the $399 Google Home Max, a pumped-up version of the Google Home (http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/10/04/google-annouces-399-google-home-max-pumped-version-google-home/)

Google Home can now use your own phone number for calls
 (http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/10/04/google-home-can-now-use-phone-number-calls/)

Google Home can now help find your phone, even if it's on silent (http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/10/04/google-home-can-now-help-find-phone-even-silent/)

Nest camera support is coming to Google Home/Chromecast (http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/10/04/nest-camera-support-coming-google-homechromecast/)

Google Assistant can tell you who's at the door with Nest Hello (http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/10/04/google-assistant-can-tell-whos-door-nest-hello/)

These Google Home updates and integrations :lawd
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on October 04, 2017, 01:15:37 PM
I really don't see the point of the Pixelbook. It's a large screen phone with a keyboard. For that much money I want an actual laptop

They really should hand Adobe a fat sack of cash to port their shit over. Market the move as the "start of many" desktop-class programs making the move. Do the same for Valve (should be easy with their HTC connections.)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: G The Resurrected on October 04, 2017, 01:16:26 PM
The nest camera stuff is amazing in Google assistant you can ask for a 5 sec 30 sec clip and it will make a gif and send it to your phone. Super useful if you've got connection issues or in an area that doesn't have highspeed LTE and just want to check out what's going on at home.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on October 04, 2017, 01:17:56 PM
The nest camera stuff is amazing in Google assistant you can ask for a 5 sec 30 sec clip and it will make a gif and send it to your phone. Super useful if you've got connection issues or in an area that doesn't have highspeed LTE and just want to check out what's going on at home.

They're finally integrating Nest in the way everyone hoped they would when they got bought.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: G The Resurrected on October 04, 2017, 01:21:39 PM
It's been a long road with Nest, but my Dropcam Pro's are still going strong and I've stuck it out. I just wish they would price their products appropriately. The new Nest stuff is expensive especially when you look at what Ring is providing in the same space.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on October 04, 2017, 01:48:20 PM
HOLY SHIITTTT the Pixel 2 has a 98 DxOMark score!!

For reference, the original Pixel got the highest-rated score at the time with 89.

The previous leader was the iPhone 8 Plus with 94.

I know the iPhone X will likely be packing some serious camera tech when it drops, but still, 98... holy fucking shit.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 04, 2017, 01:59:28 PM
I could trade in my Pixel XL, that I got for free as a replacement from my Nexus 6P, and get the Pixel XL2 for like 500 bucks, which isn't bad. But i don't think I want to sacrifice a headphone jack.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on October 04, 2017, 02:03:06 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLT9lr_UEAE1BGW.jpg:small)

(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/ib.gif)

Holy shit it actually ships in two weeks!! I waited 6 fucking weeks for my original Pixel from order to being in my hands.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on October 04, 2017, 02:06:57 PM
Every person who preorders the Pixel 2 or Pixel 2 XL will get a Google Home Mini ($49) for free. Ships 4-6 weeks later, though.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on October 04, 2017, 02:14:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dJj9tIpx4o

https://youtu.be/zpLVsR8cSFo

https://youtu.be/umhPrOo47-A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNBL2DpB1YE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXh1yyvXpwo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT13rEAq9d8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_pE3f4lJio

Google announces the Pixel 2 ($649) and Pixel 2 XL ($849) with immediate pre-orders (http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/10/04/google-announces-pixel-2-649-pixel-2-xl-849-immediate-pre-orders/)

Google Lens will be a Pixel-exclusive feature at first, coming soon to Assistant and Photos (http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/10/04/google-lens-will-pixel-exclusive-feature-first-coming-soon-assistant-photos/)

Google Clips is a tiny camera that uses AI to automatically photograph family moments (https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/4/16402682/google-clips-camera-announced-price-release-date-wireless)

 Google’s new Daydream View VR headset is designed for your coffee table (https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/4/16405224/new-google-daydream-vr-headset-controllers-video-photos-hands-on)

Google's Pixelbook is official, starts at $999 with an optional stylus for $99 (http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/10/04/googles-pixelbook-official/)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: TVC15 on October 04, 2017, 03:11:45 PM
I was hoping to be bowled over by the Pixel 2. I guess I'm sticking with the iPhone 7+ for another year.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on October 04, 2017, 03:27:13 PM
98 DxO   :checkit   94 and below DxO
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: TVC15 on October 04, 2017, 03:37:41 PM
I use bokeh a lot though, so it's kind of a toss up.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: ModernBoxes on October 04, 2017, 03:37:56 PM
I own a Pixel and I bought a Pixel 2 because of the trade in offer. Battery life declines so it makes sense to trade while the iron is hot.

That said, I stick to the smaller phone. Which is also the uglier of the two. I think small phones are generally perfect size whereas my Droid Turbo made me feel like I was lugging a burden around. My hands often feel too large for the smaller phone though. I hate myself.

Should I cancel and get the XL in November?  :lawd
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: TVC15 on October 04, 2017, 03:39:37 PM
What's the next big flagship that tends to get announced? I really want something new to play with.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on October 04, 2017, 03:44:57 PM
I was hoping to be bowled over by the Pixel 2. I guess I'm sticking with the iPhone 7+ for another year.

What were you hoping to see?
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on October 04, 2017, 03:53:12 PM
I use bokeh a lot though, so it's kind of a toss up.

Pixel 2 has the same thing, front and back cameras.

Quote
You can also expect quick autofocus through dual-pixel phase detection, and a portrait mode that creates DSLR-like soft backgrounds using only one camera (whether it's the back camera or the front 8-megapixel shooter).
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: TVC15 on October 04, 2017, 03:54:04 PM
I was hoping to be bowled over by the Pixel 2. I guess I'm sticking with the iPhone 7+ for another year.

What were you hoping to see?

It's not really something I could quantify. I just feel that neither the new iPhones or this are worth the cost of upgrading at the moment.

The Pixel 2's are definitely better than what Apple put out this year. Lens looks pretty neat, and it might be the sort of thing that could tempt me to jump on board in the future. The translation stuff with the earbuds is really cool, but it's not a feature I'd ever use. Apple seems to be focused on stupid flashy bullshit at this point. Their big feature for their most revolutionary phone EVAR are animojis. Don't even get me started on the touchbar on the MBPs. If iPhone X, and how Apple has chosen to take advantage of its features, is the future of iPhone, chances are I'm definitely jumping back to Android next year. They're at least trying to come up with compelling features not aimed solely at teenagers.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 04, 2017, 04:08:00 PM
NONE of the new flagships are worth the price. Incremental upgrades at ever increasing entry prices. Only tech fetishists and blind brand loyalists (*cough cough*) buy at launch.

Add to that the fact that they increased the size of the XL this year and I have like, zero interest in ever owning one.

Hey fandrex- what color XL 1 did you get, and do you want to sell it? Could use that, I guess.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Beezy on October 04, 2017, 04:13:09 PM
Why are they "partnering" with Verizon? Does that mean anything? I was planning to leave Verizon so that I could switch to T-Mobile and get this phone.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on October 04, 2017, 04:16:54 PM
I have a white 128GB non-XL, which I'm keeping in order to use it as a backup camera on my short films. Sorry breh. I could sell you my 5X though! ;)

Edit- Messed up lol.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on October 04, 2017, 04:19:12 PM
Why are they "partnering" with Verizon? Does that mean anything? I was planning to leave Verizon so that I could switch to T-Mobile and get this phone.

It works on every carrier when you buy it unlocked. You can only buy it subsidized from Verizon and its only retail presence be at Verizon stores.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 04, 2017, 04:26:54 PM
I have a white 128GB non-XL, which I'm keeping in order to use it as a backup camera on my short films. Sorry breh. I could sell you my 5X though! ;)

Edit- Messed up lol.

White

:jeanluc

I have a 5x already, it's my day to day.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 04, 2017, 04:27:51 PM
The only new phone that is impressive and seems worth upgrading to is the LG V30
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on October 04, 2017, 04:34:55 PM
The only new phone that is impressive and seems worth upgrading to is the LG V30

Guarantee you the Pixel 2s will blow it out of the water on speed, battery life, photos/videos, and software updates.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on October 04, 2017, 04:36:05 PM
I have a white 128GB non-XL, which I'm keeping in order to use it as a backup camera on my short films. Sorry breh. I could sell you my 5X though! ;)

Edit- Messed up lol.

White

:jeanluc

I have a 5x already, it's my day to day.

It was fun, but now I'm back 2 black 8)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: thisismyusername on October 04, 2017, 04:46:36 PM
I really don't see the point of the Pixelbook. It's a large screen phone with a keyboard. For that much money I want an actual laptop

They really should hand Adobe a fat sack of cash to port their shit over. Market the move as the "start of many" desktop-class programs making the move. Do the same for Valve (should be easy with their HTC connections.)

But why? It's still an Android in sheep's clothing?
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 04, 2017, 04:48:31 PM
The only new phone that is impressive and seems worth upgrading to is the LG V30

Guarantee you the Pixel 2s will blow it out of the water on speed, battery life, photos/videos, and software updates.

but it'll have a headphone jack
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on October 04, 2017, 05:21:59 PM
The only new phone that is impressive and seems worth upgrading to is the LG V30

Guarantee you the Pixel 2s will blow it out of the water on speed, battery life, photos/videos, and software updates.

but it'll have a headphone jack

Ok enjoy your objectively much shittier phone. 😎
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: G The Resurrected on October 04, 2017, 06:02:48 PM
Pixel 2
(https://cdn.dxomark.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/ref2_Bokeh-Outdoor_GooglePixel2.jpg)
iPhone 8+
(https://cdn.dxomark.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/ref2_Bokeh-Outdoor_ip8Plus.jpg)
I know it's software for the most part, but the pictures I'm seeing aren't impressing me much.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Beezy on October 04, 2017, 06:31:37 PM
Why are they "partnering" with Verizon? Does that mean anything? I was planning to leave Verizon so that I could switch to T-Mobile and get this phone.

It works on every carrier when you buy it unlocked. You can only buy it subsidized from Verizon and its only retail presence be at Verizon stores.
Thanks, operation escape from Verizon lives on. Do you or anyone here use Project Fi? Just wondering if it's reliable. It's monthly plan seems to be the cheapest option.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on October 05, 2017, 09:04:50 AM
I can't use Project Fi since I use Google Voice for my main number (since 2011, lol.) Google can pry it from my cold, dead fingers.

As for cheap plans, I like Straight Talk. $45/month, uses AT&T's network, 8GB of LTE data. Works perfectly for me.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: TVC15 on October 05, 2017, 10:25:15 AM
Google Fi -is- pretty tempting for me. It's a good plan in my area, but its data plan doesn't really match my usage on my AT&T plan. I pay ~140 a month and get 15 gigs a month, and I usually use almost all of that. Fi IIRC, at least around here, is a flat 10 bucks per gig, so it doesn't work as a deal for me. If my commutes weren't so long, I could probably live with that.

Note: My info is a few months old on Fi pricing in my area. Anything incorrect is not an intended misrepresentation.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 05, 2017, 10:48:41 AM

Ok enjoy your objectively much shittier phone. 😎

all the reviews have been pretty positive :yeshrug
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on October 05, 2017, 11:01:05 AM
Non-stock Android :holeup

LG's design language :holeup

Launching with Nougat when Oreo came out two months ago :holeup

Their last phone having a 84 DxOMark, a point down from the V20 six months prior :holeup
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: ModernBoxes on October 05, 2017, 11:18:41 AM
Ok everyone ignored my post.

Still, it looks like the XL is the real phone and the regular sized one is a holdover. I wish I could hold both in my hands.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on October 05, 2017, 11:21:07 AM
Oh did you want to know which you should buy?

I'm getting the XL and it's by far the biggest phone I've ever bought. I'm actually a having some post-purchase cold feet, but I'll keep my order until I have it in my hand and have used it for a few weeks.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: ModernBoxes on October 05, 2017, 11:42:37 AM
Oh did you want to know which you should buy?

I'm getting the XL and it's by far the biggest phone I've ever bought. I'm actually a having some post-purchase cold feet, but I'll keep my order until I have it in my hand and have used it for a few weeks.

Haha so I'm having the same issue the other way around. Again it stems from my desire to move to a smaller phone back when I used a Droid Turbo for 2+ years. Now that I've owned a pixel my only desire is a bigger screen and less bezel which I'm obviously not getting with P2. Part of me thinks I'm missing out on the real product by not going for the XL. (Spending a good chunk of change while missing out on the real thing is hard to swallow)

My current plan is to swap my lightly cracked Pixel with a refurbished(-$79), then send it in for the full $360 credit. I downgraded to 64GB of storage from 128GB and used the extra money to purchase the pixel buds arriving in late November.

Because the store is weird I had to start a whole new transaction to trade in my GFs iPhone so she could get a pixel too. Went with the Verizon kinda blue. Hers ships in November though.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on October 05, 2017, 01:58:05 PM
https://www.shopmoment.com/shop/categories/all/devices/pixel-2-xl

:rejoice

My next fucking short film is gonna be fire :whew
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: TVC15 on October 05, 2017, 02:08:18 PM
Is there any nudity in your short films?
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on October 05, 2017, 02:14:53 PM
Is there any nudity in your short films?

So original.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: TVC15 on October 05, 2017, 02:17:25 PM
Is there any nudity in your short films?

So original.

You'll never get to make my Slaughtered Vomit Dolls reboot with that kind of attitude.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on October 07, 2017, 03:23:58 PM
Here are all the new Home and Assistant-related features that Google announced at its October 4th event (http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/10/07/new-home-assistant-related-features-google-announced-october-4th-event/)

We're living in the future now, boys. :whew
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on October 17, 2017, 11:34:36 AM
My Pixel 2 XL and Bose QuietComfort 35 II should be here tomorrow. :lawd

And my Moment case and Tele lens shipped today. :obama

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.shopmoment.com/general/twist.gif?mtime=20170214161715)

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.shopmoment.com/general/momentist/gif-5.gif?mtime=20170404124941)

We blowin' the fuckin' doors off phone photography now, boys. :whew
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on October 18, 2017, 04:42:09 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/2VsvYCY.png)

:bow :lawd :bow2
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Beezy on October 18, 2017, 04:49:08 PM
Thoughts on the screen? I'm not liking what I'm reading about it in reviews so far.

Also, the default twitter app only? :yuck
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on October 18, 2017, 05:09:13 PM
I try to be official when possible. I don't open Twitter on my phone nearly enough for it to be a problem. (95% of tweets I read are via TweetDeck in Chrome.) :P

I can see a bit of grain but I have to be looking for it. The much bigger issues (though still not major) for me is the desaturated screen compared to the OG Pixel. It's sRGB and thus more "accurate," but it's a little jarring. I'm hoping I get used to it, because I do want to see accurate colors when shooting my videos and whatnot.

Really digging the phone overall. Will have more impressions later after more real use.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: toku on October 18, 2017, 05:31:34 PM
if you need a score for your short film...bless up
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on October 18, 2017, 05:37:12 PM
if you need a score for your short film...bless up

:ohhh
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: ModernBoxes on October 22, 2017, 12:35:59 AM
I'm posting on Pixel 2 but god that XL looks incredible to me.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on October 22, 2017, 12:45:02 AM
The XL *is* incredible. It's my first big-sized phone but I haven't had much issue adjusting at all.

Also the Moment case for it feels incredible to me. It makes it like double the thickness but I don't mind. It also has the benefit of snap-on lenses, though the one I bought has a weird vignette effect...
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Cryo on October 22, 2017, 12:57:00 AM
After having used an iPhone X which has a screen which, when viewed at extreme angles,  resembles fake plastic phones on store shelves, the screen tinting on the 2XL when shifted even a small amount is kinda unfortunate.  Hope you won the screen lottery, Andrex.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on October 22, 2017, 01:27:10 AM
I think I can see the tint shift, but I'm almost basically blind so it doesn't bother me too much. I find the screen gorgeous but I'm a dum dum lol. It looks great to me and the increased PPI makes Daydream much more enjoyable.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on October 22, 2017, 01:28:47 AM
(Other than the desaturated/"normal" colors, which I'm still getting used to but have mostly warmed up to now.)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on October 22, 2017, 01:30:02 AM
Also I dunno if it's the new phone, the taller aspect ratio, or what but I can put Pokemon GO in splitscreen mode now. :ohhh
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: ModernBoxes on October 22, 2017, 06:00:04 PM
I think I'm going to stick to the regular size. Despite not knowing what I'm missing out on. I need to see it in person but Verizon seems to be hiding the phone in the stores I've visited.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Quaker on October 28, 2017, 05:41:24 PM
I have a white 128GB non-XL, which I'm keeping in order to use it as a backup camera on my short films. Sorry breh. I could sell you my 5X though! ;)

Edit- Messed up lol.
Sooo...what's the Bore discount look like on a used 5X, Andy-kun?  :derp


(https://i.imgur.com/N45ZiQn.jpg?1)

Now that there's no subsidies anymore I was going to wait until Black Friday/Cyber Monday to see if T-Mobile runs any deals but in the mean time I was going to to down to the local place to see how much they charge for a replacement or see if anything pops up on Slickdeals but then I remembered this and hadn't considered trying out Android. Let me know.  :)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on October 28, 2017, 08:50:37 PM
Haha. Seems to be from $130-190 on Swappa, so I guess $130 + shipping? My roommate used it for a little while his phone shit the bed, but it's still in great condition IMO. PM me if you want it. :)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: naff on October 28, 2017, 08:59:30 PM
im pretty interested in how comfy the daydream is. i would like a vr headset to watch movies on when i'm alone, i have a vive but it was stupid difficult to set it up to watch 3d movies in bed, and it's not exactly comfy. i def liked the effect though, especially when a little buzzed, despite the vives horrendous screendoor.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 28, 2017, 09:00:23 PM
So they pretty much gave up on tablets?
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Cryo on November 03, 2017, 06:39:06 PM
I can confirm that one of the 20,000 songs that displays on the lock screen when overheard is "Area Codes" by Ludacris feat. Nate Dogg for the Rush Hour 2 OST.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on November 03, 2017, 09:41:12 PM
It's gotten pretty much every song at every bar I've been to since I got it. Sometimes takes a while though, or doesn't work at all if the music isn't loud enough.

Still pretty neat. Hasn't been useful yet, but still neat.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: chronovore on November 15, 2017, 07:20:21 PM
 I don’t think I would be comfortable with my phone listening to the ambient noise all around me all the time just so I could figure out what song is playing.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: thisismyusername on November 15, 2017, 07:36:03 PM
So they pretty much gave up on tablets?

s/tablets/Android patches

Google really needs to strong arm OEM's and phone companies to push updates to older phones like Apple pushes OS/security updates to iPhones. It's horrendous the number of "outdated" tablets/phones on Android there is that are ripe for exploiting through the Play Store (or elsewhere if people sideload stupidly). :doge
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on November 16, 2017, 10:34:09 AM
If you want speedy updates and security, you stick with stock Android. This isn't some shocking fact. It's been like this from the start - since 2008. I'm sick of idiots deprioritizing security when it comes to buying Samsung or LG's latest flashy trash and then whining about patches and updates. Go fuck yourself.

Project Treble should help quite a bit, though. But I have no sympathy for the smartphone equivalent of mouthbreathers.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: thisismyusername on November 16, 2017, 10:40:55 AM
If you want speedy updates and security, you stick with stock Android. This isn't some shocking fact. It's been like this from the start - since 2008. I'm sick of idiots deprioritizing security when it comes to buying Samsung or LG's latest flashy trash and then whining about patches and updates. Go fuck yourself.

Project Treble should help quite a bit, though. But I have no sympathy for the smartphone equivalent of mouthbreathers.

Even Stock Android isn't updated. You told me my phone is Stock: It gets Oreo with 2 years of support. After that? No new updates or OS updates. This has been a problem for Android from the get-go. Most folks will not update their tablet or phone unless it breaks or see a need to. There is like 80% of Android phones/tablets out there that are running 2/3 versions behind the latest update. Google needs to solve that.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on November 16, 2017, 10:47:18 AM
Pixel 2 offers three years of OS and security updates, thanks to Project Treble. Which, as I mentioned, will make things better.

You know what won't make things better? Imploring Google to "strong arm" manufacturers. It's not going to happen and it wouldn't work if they tried it. Samsung - who is about to become the most profitable smartphone maker in the world (https://www.marketwatch.com/story/samsung-set-to-surpass-apple-as-the-worlds-most-profitable-tech-company-2017-07-07) - would take Android and pull an Amazon. They wouldn't even think about it for a second.

You think updates are bad now? Have you looked at Amazon's Fire OS? It's an appropriate name for a dumpster fire. And others would follow suit. Even if they got some of them, like Motorola and Essential to go along, the EU and possibly even the US DoJ would smack them down. Google is already seen as having too much power.

The only way to approach the update situation is from a technical vantage point, which is what Treble is the start of. The hope is that eventually we'll get to the point on Android phones that Windows has operated at.

But today, yeah, if you're not buying a Google phone, I'm not sure why you'd expect (or rather, annoyingly whine for) quick updates from a Google operating system.

If I hack some $50 phone from China and put iOS on it, am I entitled to updates from Apple?
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: thisismyusername on November 16, 2017, 11:01:01 AM
If I hack some $50 phone from China and put iOS on it, am I entitled to updates from Apple?

That is completely different from what I'm getting at you're being obtuse to defend Google.

The fact is: Android is an operating system. Thereby like Apple who has their "iOS" OS in iPhones, they are responsible for security patches in a majority of ROM's. It doesn't matter if Motorola, Samsung, et. al. customize the ROM. The fact is: The underlying operating system is overseen by Google.

Anything that is serious (see: SMB problem in Windows) should be handled by the operating system manufacturer/developer.

What you're saying is the equivalent of: "Well, why would you by a Compaq instead of buying from Microsoft directly and assume Windows would be updated for 5 years with security. Trolloololololololololol." It's dumb.

And to be fair: I do not place the blame squarely on Google. Even before iPhone/Android phones the smart-phone market for fast OS updates was horrible. I had a Blackberry phone that took ages to be updated at times because of the telephony company.

The whole industry needs a top-to-bottom reshuffle (AKA: Google does need to strong-arm the companies using their shit to push out security updates for "outdated" OS's to protect their consumers) to the PC-style (now a days) "push patches out and have the customers be automatically updated because they're fucking moronic and won't do it or update when required."

There's valid reasons for not updating (the phone gets slower because more bloat/etc. makes it slower) but not providing security patches is such a ":mindblown " thing coming from OS's.

Even Linux (which Android is a base of) isn't this insane with having consumers be behind security patches/updates. But Linux is used by most folks that will willingly deffer updates for the sake of "uptime" so that's a whole-'nother discussion on why "computer literate" folks are just as dumb.

To actually answer the quoted bit: Apple pushes their updates out and if a community like the Hackentosh community was around to do it for iPhones? You can expect a security update to be reverse engineered and pushed by the community for you to use (if you so choose, but that's outside of what you're getting at) when it happens. Apple develops security updates for "out of date" OS's if the need arises. Even 10 years after their Intel switch, my PPC Mac Mini was getting OS security updates.

How the fuck do you not support that? You can't go "dumb consumers not buying Google lol" when Google still develops the fucking base of the ROM for the phone manus.

Basically what I'm getting at is that the entire phone industry needs to stop pushing "new phone who dis? lol" as a security measure and actually update older OS's for critical security shit. If they don't want to push new OS updates to the phone/tablets? Fine, but protecting the consumers is their job. Even Google's who is the underlying OS maker.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on November 16, 2017, 11:58:03 AM
Quote
Even Linux (which Android is a base of) isn't this insane with having consumers be behind security patches/updates. But Linux is used by most folks that will willingly deffer updates for the sake of "uptime" so that's a whole-'nother discussion on why "computer literate" folks are just as dumb.

This is because the entire driver situation is completely different (read: more sane) on desktop. In fact, Linux is the reason for much of the delays in Android updates. It's super rare to get a newer version of Linux when updating Android because of the driver headache (almost everything is proprietary.) In fact, proprietary drivers were a huge Linux bugaboo until (and possibly including) recent times. As I've said, the biggest holdup on Android updates is technical instead of political, and Google's time is better spent there.

Then you have the carrier side of things, and even here people are morons and buy from carriers despite them introducing yet another layer of slowness. People need to buy unlocked.

As I said, Google "strongarming" OEMs and carriers won't happen, because if they tried it, it wouldn't work. And they have tried it! The Galaxy Nexus 4G on Verizon was supposed to herald a new era of straight-from-Google-despite-being-through-a-carrier update processes. But it didn't because, surprise, Verizon slowed the updates down. Google's tried reigning in Samsung with the Google Play Edition of the Galaxy line, but that fell apart. Google can't strongarm anybody because they're not in a position of strength with OEMs and carriers. If the Pixels actually competed sales-wise with the iPhone and Galaxies, it'd be a different story, but the Pixel line isn't there yet.

(How many different ways do I need to say "buy a Pixel and everything will be better"? Both at a micro and macro level.)

Google's still working on tackling this problem (Treble), but in a sense they're also taking their ball and deservedly going home (Pixel line.)

If you care about security more than anything, you'll get a phone from the company that controls the OS end-to-end. Meaning iPhone or Pixel. If you like flashy or cheap trash and don't care about updates as much, you'll get something else. That's all there is to it, all that's ever been to it, and all that will be to it.

PS-
Quote
You can expect a security update to be reverse engineered and pushed by the community for you to use (if you so choose, but that's outside of what you're getting at) when it happens.

Doing this on the Android side is actually far more supported. ROMs a-plenty. If your phone isn't secure, you're either dumb or lazy.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on November 16, 2017, 12:09:27 PM
Fwiw saying Google "owns the base OS" is pretty worthless since stock Android on its own is unbootable on actual hardware since all of a phone's drivers are proprietary.

Is this system outdated and stupid? Yes, of course, MS "solved" it decades ago (though they still have issues with it now and then, see: Vista and signed drivers, etc.) But as you brought up before, the mobile phone world was even more of a clusterfuck before Android, and Andy Rubin had to compromise the OS for OEMs somewhere.

Treble actually does fix this with a hardware abstraction layer (have I brought up Treble enough yet?) I'm not sure if you can actually boot stock Android on any Treble-supporting phone yet, but if not we're pretty damn close.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on November 23, 2017, 06:56:15 PM
Re: me going on and on about Project Treble:

https://www.xda-developers.com/stock-android-oreo-huawei-mate-9-project-treble/

Quote
I'm not sure if you can actually boot stock Android on any Treble-supporting phone yet, but if not we're pretty damn close.

Damn I love being right. 8)

Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Beezy on November 23, 2017, 10:33:21 PM
All these Galaxy sales but no Pixel 2 sales. :maf

I guess I'll just pick up a 2 XL sometime this weekend.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on November 27, 2017, 07:54:20 PM
Google Wifi got here yesterday. :rejoice

It joins my Pixel 2, four Google Homes, two Chromecasts, Chromebook Pixel and Daydream View.

#madebygoogle
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: chronovore on November 28, 2017, 02:46:07 AM
I'm seriously considering pulling my cellphone off standard access and going with GoogleFi, tied to a USA bank account. Apparently roaming works off their partners when "abroad" here in Japan, so I could be looking at dropping from $80/mo to $40, keep my USA Google Voice number, and then point other Japanese people at a VoIP solution to contact me. Not like I'm a chatterbox on the phone anyway.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on June 08, 2018, 11:06:19 AM
Google Wifi got here yesterday. :rejoice

It joins my Pixel 2, four Google Homes, two Chromecasts, Chromebook Pixel and Daydream View.

#madebygoogle

Add to this my new pair of Pixel Buds. And I've been looking quite hard at a Pixelbook now that Chrome OS supports both Linux and Android apps.

Also, for TIMU: Talkin’ Treble: How Android engineers are winning the war on fragmentation (https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/06/talkin-treble-how-android-engineers-are-winning-the-war-on-fragmentation/)

Great in-depth read. Android P/9.0 is going to push things even further.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Event Thread (10/4/17)
Post by: Tasty on July 18, 2018, 03:32:50 PM
EU basically just kneecapped Google's ability to fight Android fragmentation. GG.

Hopefully Treble got here in time.

I suggest everyone stop supporting third-party manufacturers. Going forward, you're not going to know what hell you're going to get when you buy an "Android" phone. It may not even have Google Play. To play it safe, just stick with the Pixel line.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on July 29, 2018, 01:33:41 PM
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-3-xl-clearly-white-leak/

(https://www1-lw.xda-cdn.com/files/2018/07/White-Google-Pixel-3-XL-Picture-5.jpg)

(https://www1-lw.xda-cdn.com/files/2018/07/White-Google-Pixel-3-XL-Picture-2.jpg)

(https://www1-lw.xda-cdn.com/files/2018/07/White-Google-Pixel-3-XL-Picture-3.jpg)

For the record, the smaller Pixel 3 will reuse the Pixel 2 XL's design (just in a smaller form factor.)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: chronovore on July 29, 2018, 06:57:51 PM
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-3-xl-clearly-white-leak/

(https://www1-lw.xda-cdn.com/files/2018/07/White-Google-Pixel-3-XL-Picture-5.jpg)

(https://www1-lw.xda-cdn.com/files/2018/07/White-Google-Pixel-3-XL-Picture-2.jpg)

(https://www1-lw.xda-cdn.com/files/2018/07/White-Google-Pixel-3-XL-Picture-3.jpg)

For the record, the smaller Pixel 3 will reuse the Pixel 2 XL's design (just in a smaller form factor.)
(https://www1-lw.xda-cdn.com/files/2018/07/White-Google-Pixel-3-XL-Picture-5.jpg)

PHONCEPTION
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Crash Dummy on August 03, 2018, 10:49:45 AM
well this is a shame, pixel 2 xl slowdown less than a year after release https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_5zZnuB71w
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on August 16, 2018, 07:23:45 PM
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/08/google-reportedly-plans-flagship-retail-store-again-this-time-in-chicago/

Hope one comes to Boston soon.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on September 06, 2018, 08:20:43 PM
(https://9to5google.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2018/09/made-by-google.gif)

(https://i.imgur.com/cUAIRGj.gif)

October 9th!

Probably no Pixel Watch though, and I likely won't be getting the Pixel Buds 2 and Pixelbook 2 this year as I thought.

Pretty much just a normal-sized Pixel 3 and whatever first-party Echo Home knockoff they came out with (although the Lenovo smart display looks nice.) Plus whatever awesome home automation/security stuff Nest might come out with.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 06, 2018, 08:59:56 PM
Obligatory "wait a month or two, buy a One Plus 6 t" post
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: G The Resurrected on September 06, 2018, 09:33:00 PM
The lenovo smart display is actually making me consider jumping to Youtube TV. I got one at Costco to try out and ended up buying a second one. You can multicast anything through Youtube to both displays just like audio. So if you wanna share a video with someone in another room you can watch it at the same time. I use mine while I'm cooking and the other is on the side table and gets used while I play games on the big screen.

I look forward to seeing what Google has cooked up in that space and if they expand to other Android one apps for the device line.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on September 06, 2018, 09:56:24 PM
Obligatory "wait a month or two, buy a One Plus 6 t" post

(https://i.imgur.com/BF66lpk.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/SDwmsIM.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/5E3igBa.png)

(https://media.giphy.com/media/jeXiz1RAvzX44/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on September 06, 2018, 09:57:42 PM
The lenovo smart display is actually making me consider jumping to Youtube TV. I got one at Costco to try out and ended up buying a second one. You can multicast anything through Youtube to both displays just like audio. So if you wanna share a video with someone in another room you can watch it at the same time. I use mine while I'm cooking and the other is on the side table and gets used while I play games on the big screen.

I look forward to seeing what Google has cooked up in that space and if they expand to other Android one apps for the device line.

Wait I had no idea you could simulcast video to multiple smart displays. How do they not trumpet that feature around? They rolled out a red carpet for multiroom audio.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 06, 2018, 10:10:22 PM
Haha, Pie kinda sucks tho. I know, I have a 1st gen Pixel XL. Fucking app notifications have gone bonkers. OMG I HAVE TO WAIT A MONTH. ::)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on September 06, 2018, 10:16:01 PM
Pie is the first release to proactively ask you to hide notifications you constantly dismiss though. :thinking

The notification business was really Oreo's doing last year. 8.1 and 9.0 have actually really cleaned it up.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Assimilate on September 06, 2018, 11:06:55 PM
well this is a shame, pixel 2 xl slowdown less than a year after release

Pretty sure this was one of my complaints to Tasty about Android vs IOS. i've never seen an android phone that didn't turn to shit a year later.

Meanwhile, my iphone 6 that's going on almost 5 years is still strong. Yes, 5 fucking years. It's being sold after Apple's event next week.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on September 09, 2018, 09:51:47 AM
https://chromeunboxed.com/news/new-pixelbook-nocturne-atlas-shown-on-video/

Circular keys?? 🤔
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Beezy on September 09, 2018, 10:19:40 AM
 :holeup
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 09, 2018, 11:00:58 AM
Man Google starting to get to Apple tier shit design choices
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on September 09, 2018, 03:00:03 PM
A different non-convertible Pixelbook just leaked in an ad: https://chromeunboxed.com/news/pixelbook-2-leaked-image-online-ad

Looks like there will be two this year. A laptop form factor successor with reduced bezels (likely "Pixelbook 2"), and a convertible version (which might also be mildly on the lower-end of things.)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: pilonv1 on September 13, 2018, 05:52:46 AM
shutting down inbox

answer pls andy kun :gurl
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: TVC15 on September 13, 2018, 08:59:03 AM
shutting down inbox

answer pls andy kun :gurl

Wut? Fuck. What am I supposed to use? Is the gmail app still shitty?
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on September 13, 2018, 09:21:35 AM
All of Inbox's features will be in Gmail by the time Inbox is sunsetted.

As much as I loved Inbox, the writing has been on the wall since about March. Google started making a big push back into Gmail and deliberately clammed up whenever people asked about Inbox. Updates to Inbox have been few and far between for over a year now, too.

Google loves making two of something and having them duke it out to see which has a better take on the idea, and this is a classic example. Inbox both lost and won -- obviously, it's shutting down, but almost everything it pioneered will be integrated back into its forebear.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: chronovore on September 13, 2018, 06:26:02 PM
What the actual fuck? Gmail gets the features, but is still ugly as sin and missing a bunch of the streamlining which made Inbox so great. Wow. SHIT.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: TVC15 on September 13, 2018, 07:18:29 PM
I’d also like like to take this moment to say new Chrome is ugly as fuck. All those rounded edges—it’s now safe for a particularly slow child to play with it.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Assimilate on September 13, 2018, 11:20:30 PM
How is the new Pixel even going to compete with the Xr?
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on September 14, 2018, 12:55:04 AM
How is the new Pixel even going to compete with the Xr?

It's not running iOS for starters.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on September 14, 2018, 01:59:40 AM
https://store.google.com/us/product/three
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Assimilate on September 14, 2018, 03:51:37 AM
How is the new Pixel even going to compete with the Xr?

It's not running iOS for starters.
Ok, so it won't. Thanks.


Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: benjipwns on September 14, 2018, 04:09:27 AM
I’d also like like to take this moment to say new Chrome is ugly as fuck. All those rounded edges—it’s now safe for a particularly slow child to play with it.
It now looks like Opera looked before Opera decided to make itself look like Firefox.

Everything on Chrome always seems to look goofier on Windows, like I barely noticed the rounded tabs when my Ubuntu 18 laptop updated weeks ago. Then my desktop updated this week. (Why this was, I have no idea, they're both on the beta channel.)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on September 18, 2018, 10:50:55 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/0YaEp9f.png)

First official press renders (in the official fabric case.)

Also, I just set me parents up with a Google Wifi mesh network. I thought three would be enough but I might go for four, one of their Nest Cam Outdoors has a weak signal still.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on September 18, 2018, 10:53:35 AM
Also hey the cameras are laid out the same way this year, nice.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on September 18, 2018, 04:37:17 PM
(https://i2.wp.com/9to5google.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2018/09/google_home_hub_head_1.jpg?resize=2500%2C0&quality=82&strip=all&ssl=1)

Google Home Hub, rumored to be "aggressively priced" at $150. Looks like someone glued a low-rent Android tablet to a Home Max.

No camera tho? :thinking

Or is it hidden behind a manual switch, like some smart displays already have? :thinking
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on September 20, 2018, 12:48:15 PM
(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/JKBYwOXttvGxktDzNXixIoEzmnY=/0x0:1024x1016/1820x1213/filters:focal(403x380:565x542):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/61477469/Wallaby_keyboard_with_Chrome_tablet.0.png)

Pixelbook tablet, detachable, USB Type-C, fingerprint reader.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on September 20, 2018, 05:17:59 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/58MDMaU.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/dIgkBqR.jpg)

JD.com leak.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on September 21, 2018, 12:43:58 PM
(https://9to5google.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2018/09/google_pixel_stand_animation.gif)

Pixel Stand illustration leak.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Brehvolution on September 21, 2018, 12:56:10 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/EMPyUXK.png)

Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on September 21, 2018, 01:35:01 PM
o __ o
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on September 22, 2018, 01:33:38 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/RCCVQDu.jpg)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Assimilate on September 22, 2018, 04:12:33 PM
what do you think of the OnePlus6T that's coming out?
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on September 24, 2018, 10:54:55 PM
Panda versions leaked:

(https://9to5google.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2018/09/Google-Pixel-3-1537816462-0-0.png)

(https://9to5google.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2018/09/Google-Pixel-3-1537816466-0-0.png)

(https://9to5google.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2018/09/Google-Pixel-3-1537816470-0-10.png)

(https://9to5google.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2018/09/Google-Pixel-3-XL-1537816343-0-0.png)

(https://9to5google.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2018/09/Google-Pixel-3-XL-1537816349-0-0.png)

(https://9to5google.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2018/09/Google-Pixel-3-XL-1537816353-0-0.png)

Digging the mint green button.

what do you think of the OnePlus6T that's coming out?

Gonna need to know more about it tbh. The 6 was solid enough.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on September 26, 2018, 04:04:52 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/7rGfQrG.png)

Pixel Stand (from the bottom.)

Since the 6T was brought up:

(https://i.imgur.com/SqUtUzn.png)

This does look dope, and it probably the best notch (along with Essential's.) In-screen fingerprint reader seems cool but that would take a lot of adjustment from me personally.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Assimilate on September 26, 2018, 04:50:50 PM
For $500 something dollar phone the Oneplus 6 t is where it's at, honestly. Great value it seems.

Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on September 27, 2018, 01:10:04 PM
The new detachable Pixelbook (codename Nocturne) will officially be called "Google Pixel Slate."

For $500 something dollar phone the Oneplus 6 t is where it's at, honestly. Great value it seems.

Yup. Past gens it feels like they always messed up 1-2 things, but this one looks like a keeper.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on September 27, 2018, 01:17:15 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/nhuxen3.jpg)

Google Home Hub ("Charcoal" color.)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on September 29, 2018, 03:42:42 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/V5yKcgs.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/OsMUWj5.jpg)

Third-gen Chromecast with Bluetooth and better Wi-Fi.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: TVC15 on September 29, 2018, 04:02:56 PM
The new detachable Pixelbook (codename Nocturne) will officially be called "Google Pixel Slate."

For $500 something dollar phone the Oneplus 6 t is where it's at, honestly. Great value it seems.

Yup. Past gens it feels like they always messed up 1-2 things, but this one looks like a keeper.

If there a rumored price for the detachable chrome book? I can use a <counts> 5th laptop.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on September 29, 2018, 04:43:35 PM
Not really. There's been a jumble of rumors, one from a while ago is that one of the Pixelbooks would be "lower cost" and around $500, but no one's sure which one that could apply to, or if it's true. I believe the detachable (Pixel Slate) has a 3000 x 2000 resolution, which probably won't be super cheap though.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on September 30, 2018, 07:55:30 PM
Google Pixel Slate, aka ‘Nocturne’, may support dual-booting Windows 10 (https://9to5google.com/2018/09/29/google-pixel-slate-nocturne-windows-10/)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on October 02, 2018, 01:27:48 AM
(https://www.androidpolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/EmVGGtP-hero-768x432.jpg)

Bundle leak.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Assimilate on October 02, 2018, 08:35:56 PM
that thing looks terrible, kind of like something someone would put up their vagina...
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on October 03, 2018, 01:21:34 AM
(https://9to5google.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2018/10/google-pixel-slate-specs.jpg?quality=82&strip=all&w=700)

Pixel Slate specs.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on October 04, 2018, 12:35:27 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Ey5cUAe.png)

"Sand" color leak.

5 days to go!
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on October 05, 2018, 07:30:29 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/fUf34HB.png)

Pixel 3 XL retail box leak.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: thisismyusername on October 05, 2018, 07:34:53 PM
Is that icon size the default for AOSP? My new Moto G6 has all the icons tiny (plus installed bloatware like Facebook by default) and it's driving me crazy after having the stock-Android icon size be like that photo.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on October 05, 2018, 07:47:05 PM
They actually used to be much bigger believe it or not.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: thisismyusername on October 05, 2018, 08:34:40 PM
They actually used to be much bigger believe it or not.

Really? I'm not sure if it's screen size or the OEM/mobile company changing the size, but after having them be iPhone app sized (not sure if you get what I mean) on my G4, my G6 being super tiny (but having space for like 50+ apps per "page") while nice, is a little annoying since I'm used to the "default"/AOSP size. I can't seem to find a UI setting for it (like displaying the battery status % and milliseconds on the clock). It's driving me crazy.

(Along with not knowing [due to XDA navigation being a hot-mess of unusable] if this variant is able to be flashed stock to get rid of the fucking bloatware on the recovery partition. I like Android, but Jesus the OEM cancer each installs...)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Assimilate on October 05, 2018, 08:51:39 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/fUf34HB.png)

Pixel 3 XL retail box leak.
that notch is fucking hideous. it is worse than the iPhone ones.

Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on October 05, 2018, 10:04:39 PM
They actually used to be much bigger believe it or not.

Really? I'm not sure if it's screen size or the OEM/mobile company changing the size, but after having them be iPhone app sized (not sure if you get what I mean) on my G4, my G6 being super tiny (but having space for like 50+ apps per "page") while nice, is a little annoying since I'm used to the "default"/AOSP size. I can't seem to find a UI setting for it (like displaying the battery status % and milliseconds on the clock). It's driving me crazy.

(Along with not knowing [due to XDA navigation being a hot-mess of unusable] if this variant is able to be flashed stock to get rid of the fucking bloatware on the recovery partition. I like Android, but Jesus the OEM cancer each installs...)

You should be able to install an alternate launcher and adjust the size there, no root needed.

And yeah, stock/Google Android 4.0-4.3 had "standard" size icons, then it jumped in size for 4.4-6.0 (I think?), then when the first Pixel launched they reined it back in.

I wasn't on board with the circle icons at first, but adaptive icons are a huge step forward and two weeks ago the last of my apps finally updated with support. Going forward, apps can have whatever icon shape or size the launcher can dream up (provided they expose it to users.)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on October 06, 2018, 11:12:50 AM
Leak: "Sand" is actually going to be called "Not Pink" and be exclusive to the 64 GB models.

Also, every Pixel 3 preorder comes with a free wireless charging Pixel Stand. The front of the device also leaked:

(https://i.imgur.com/IEMqQPr.jpg)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Polari on October 06, 2018, 10:52:34 PM
Man Google suck at hardware - third iteration of the Pixel and the bezels and notch are bigger than a $200 Chinese phone

Also smh at selling a Chromecast and mini Google Home as a "Smart TV kit" rather than anything with Android TV on it. Just kill it already
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on October 07, 2018, 01:49:47 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/b10geIx.png)

New Pixelbook Pen color leak.

(https://i.imgur.com/OqdKFmR.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/z6MJ9DE.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/l2azbBo.jpg)

Pixel Slate and attachable keyboard render leak. (Here's where the rounded keys from earlier in the thread ended up.)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on October 07, 2018, 01:52:55 PM
Pixel Slate having Duo but not Chrome OS overall is some dumb shit.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on October 08, 2018, 08:52:36 PM
11am Eastern tomorrow, brehs!
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on October 09, 2018, 03:16:50 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/99bBbf8.jpg)

11th hour Google Pixel Slate render leak.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Oct. 9]
Post by: Tasty on October 09, 2018, 11:00:25 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsoQGTA1SxY

Here we go!
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Live]
Post by: Tasty on October 09, 2018, 11:23:16 AM
Pixel 3, Home Hub, and Pixel Slate officially announced. Details forthcoming.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Live]
Post by: Tasty on October 09, 2018, 11:51:21 AM
Google Home Hub is $149.

Google Pixel Slate is $599.

Preorderers for either get three months of YouTube TV for free.

Pixel Slate keyboard and cover is $199.

Pixelbook Pen (in the new color) is still available at $99.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Live]
Post by: Tasty on October 09, 2018, 11:53:49 AM
https://store.google.com/config/pixel_3

Pixel 3 (64 GB) - $799
Pixel 3 (128 GB) - $899
Pixel 3 XL (64 GB) - $899
Pixel 3 XL (128 GB) - $999

They're fucking crazy with these prices. Why not just keep it the same as last year? Lmao. Guess we're waiting until Gen 4 for this line to take off.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Live]
Post by: Tasty on October 09, 2018, 11:59:56 AM
https://store.google.com/product/pixel_stand

Pixel Stand - $89
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Live]
Post by: Tasty on October 09, 2018, 12:08:43 PM
Quote
Pixel 3 (128 GB) - $899

Clearly White ordered, arriving October 22-23. :rejoice
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Live]
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 09, 2018, 12:29:39 PM
That Slate looks neat.  Chrome OS though...has that gotten better?
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Live]
Post by: TVC15 on October 09, 2018, 12:38:36 PM
Pixel Slate looks nice. I’ll wait for reviews—I’d be sticking with the low-end model because I don’t need this and I at least need to pretend to be responsible. I have too many computers:

MBP 2017
MacBook 2017 (I bought it in like April. They didn’t do a new model this year right?)
HP Spectre 2-in-1
HP Omen gaming laptop
iPad
Work MBP (2015 I think)

I think that’s it. I listed the iPad because it’s the one I use most.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Live]
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 09, 2018, 01:52:21 PM
How is it better?
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Live]
Post by: Tasty on October 09, 2018, 02:53:56 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Wpq3c8D.png)

😍
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes [Event: Live]
Post by: Assimilate on October 09, 2018, 07:13:40 PM
that pixel 3 notch is so much better than iphone notch

when even fucking google designs products better than apple :dead
what are you smoking bro?
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: naff on October 09, 2018, 07:52:56 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/jdcAN3I.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/QE1CpNf.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/JVZuwuv.jpg)

(https://image.coolblue.nl/422x390/products/1033437)

(https://propakistani.pk/price/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/nokia-7-plus-2-1.jpg)

:yeshrug im not a fan of the new pixel. Def a bit dorky relative to other flagship phones and, despite loving the S9s looks, you won't catch me buying a Samsung phone (dat bloatware). idgaf about having a top quality camera so it's been a 7 plus for me.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: naff on October 09, 2018, 08:13:45 PM
Base spec Pixel 3 is being debuted at more than twice the price of a 7 Plus here (1200AUD vs ~500AUD). 7 plus is the same res with a larger screen, significantly better battery, better looks, and an sd slot. Pixel 3 has a p-oled screen, slightly better chipset and better camera. Google aren't making a great case for that premium pricing imo. I would be surprised if Pie runs noticeably better on a Pixel 3.

Edit: Compared to the S9+ this is embarrassing. If i was gonna spend dumb money on a prem phone I prob would consider Samsung just 'cause the specs and design are that damn good, and it's still cheaper than the base spec Pixel :lol. I'd make an exception for the bloatware. Pixel is seemingly reserved for a very special set of google fanboys.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on October 09, 2018, 08:29:28 PM
Chromecast 2018 adds support for 1080p60 and is once again $35. Later in the year it will also gain Chromecast Audio functionality, turning a TV into another set of speakers that can be added to a multi-room group for music or podcast playback.

Under the hood, it's officially certified for Bluetooth, which might come into play if Google decides to make a Chromecast remote device in the future.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on October 09, 2018, 08:35:02 PM
That Slate looks neat.  Chrome OS though...has that gotten better?

Android and Linux support isn't 100% smooth yet, but it's pretty close and massively increases the value proposition of a Chromebook. Google is also in the process of certifying their Chrome OS devices for Windows 10 dual boot functionality, which will probably hit next year.

If you get a Chromebook with that support, that's one device that can run apps for three OSes out of the box, with support for a fourth on its way. If you think the hardware is worth the price, the OS is rapidly becoming less of a con and more of a pro.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Assimilate on October 09, 2018, 09:12:27 PM
That pixel is not impressive at all, even less so than what apple offered considering Apple came out with the Max this year.

However, where google does impress is with their A.I/assistant integration. That hold call/screen feature is very nice. Apple needs to catch up with shit like that.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on October 09, 2018, 10:33:39 PM
Google Assistant :rejoice

Nest :rejoice

Machine Learning :rejoice

Call Screening :rejoice

Google Photos :rejoice

Titan Security :rejoice

Digital Wellbeing :rejoice

Google Home App Redesign :rejoice
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on October 09, 2018, 11:43:44 PM
:drudge News roundup! :drudge

Call Screen will let Pixel users see who's calling and what they want before answering (https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/09/call-screen-will-let-pixel-users-see-whos-calling-want-answering/)

Smart Compose comes to Gmail for Android as Pixel exclusive (https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/09/smart-compose-comes-android-pixel-exclusive/)

Pixel 3 first impressions: Probably the best "small" smartphone in years (https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/09/pixel-3-first-impressions-probably-best-small-smartphone-years/)

Google aims to create 'closed loop' for user data with new Titan Security mobile chip (https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/09/google-titan-security-chip/)

'Home View' and redesigned Google Home app will make smart devices easier to access (https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/09/home-view-redesigned-google-home-app-will-make-smart-devices-easier-access/)

Google Home app gets smart home controls, intelligent actions, and household sharing (https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/09/google-home-app-gets-smart-home-controls-intelligent-actions-household-sharing/)

Google Photos Live Albums automatically uploads your best photos to your Home Hub (https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/09/google-photos-live-albums-automatically-uploads-best-photos-home-hub/)

Pixel Stand charges your phone and more for $79 (https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/09/pixel-stand-charges-phone-79/)

Google Duplex rolls out starting in November on Pixel phones (https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/09/google-duplex-rolls-starting-next-month-pixel-phones/)

Pixel USB Type-C earbuds now available on the Google Store for $30 (https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/09/pixel-usb-type-c-earbuds-now-available-google-store-30/)

Google reveals minor third-generation Chromecast update with multi-room audio support (https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/09/google-2018-third-generation-chromecast-refresh/)

Nest Learning Thermostat now comes in three new finishes (https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/09/nest-learning-thermostat-now-comes-three-new-finishes/)

Pixel 3 owners get free full-size photo uploads until January 31, 2022 (https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/09/pixel-3-owners-get-free-full-size-photo-uploads-january-31-2022/)

Google's AR Stickers app is now Playground, with four new 'Playmoji' packs (https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/09/googles-ar-stickers-app-now-playground-four-new-playmoji-packs/)

Moment Photo cases are now available for the Pixel 3, Moment Pro app offers 20% discount (3 days only) (https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/09/moment-photo-cases-now-available-pixel-3-moment-pro-app-offers-20-discount-3-days/)

Google Lens on Pixel 3 gains deeper camera app integration, offline availability (https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/09/google-lens-on-pixel-3-gains-deeper-camera-app-integration-offline-availability/)

Pixel Stand impressions: Google's renewed interest in wireless charging delivers a clever surprise (https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/09/pixel-stand-impressions-googles-renewed-interest-wireless-charging-delivers-clever-surprise/)

DisplayMate says the Pixel 3 XL display gets an 'A+ Rating' (https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/09/displaymate-says-pixel-3-xl-display-gets-rating/)

Google offering select customers $50 store credit with Pixel 3 pre-order (https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/09/google-offering-select-customers-50-store-credit-pixel-3-pre-order/)

Pixel Slate impressions: Android tablets are dead, long live Chromebooks (https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/09/pixel-slate-impressions-android-tablets-dead-long-live-chromebooks/)

Google now offers smart home product bundles at a discount (https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/09/google-now-offers-smart-home-product-bundles-discount/)

Google's Pixel 3 has plenty of new and upcoming camera features (https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/09/googles-pixel-3-plenty-new-upcoming-camera-features/)

The Pixel 3's Google Camera brings a new UI, RAW support, and a new panorama mode [APK Download] (https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/09/pixel-3s-google-camera-brings-new-ui-raw-support-new-panorama-mode-apk-download/)



(https://www.androidpolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/call-screen-1.gif)

(https://www.androidpolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/ezgif.com-optimize1.gif)

(https://www.androidpolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/LensKeynote_Menu_1.gif)

:rejoice
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on October 09, 2018, 11:53:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkRhoGPo2is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKSA_idPZkc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mek1EfLFOHQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF1yy67BSp0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxuHbgz1UtI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNg3Cb76G6M
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: TVC15 on October 10, 2018, 12:44:29 AM
If you love Google stuff so much, why don’t you interview with them?
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on October 10, 2018, 01:00:28 AM
If you love Google stuff so much, why don’t you interview with them?

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Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: TVC15 on October 10, 2018, 01:07:39 AM
If you love Google stuff so much, why don’t you interview with them?

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Good luck! Is it a phone thing or a full loop?
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
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You’re going to do great!
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 10, 2018, 10:11:54 AM
I had a friend intern at their human resources department in Mountain View, so if you need some sort of reference or just a friendly person to chat with, I can pass along her information to you Tasty.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on October 10, 2018, 01:18:30 PM
I had a friend intern at their human resources department in Mountain View, so if you need some sort of reference or just a friendly person to chat with, I can pass along her information to you Tasty.

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Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Brehvolution on October 10, 2018, 02:12:28 PM
You probably won't need help with your interview. Your tenure on thebore.com should more than qualify you.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on October 10, 2018, 05:36:52 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/CH8XU3I.png)

Fucking insane.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on October 11, 2018, 02:54:58 PM
https://www.dpreview.com/articles/7921074499/five-ways-google-pixel-3-pushes-the-boundaries-of-computational-photography

(https://i.imgur.com/ce39hJd.jpg)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on October 14, 2018, 12:00:53 PM
Which Pixel 3 features are coming to older Pixel phones (and which will remain exclusive) (https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/13/pixel-3-features-coming-older-pixel-phones-will-remain-exclusive/)

Good amount of stuff for both, and the Pixel 3 exclusives mostly make sense (being hardware based and using the Visual Core more.)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on October 14, 2018, 12:07:07 PM
Google might be preparing free 4K upgrades in Play Movies (https://9to5google.com/2018/10/12/google-play-movies-4k-upgrade/)

:rejoice
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Beezy on October 14, 2018, 01:13:01 PM
Which Pixel 3 features are coming to older Pixel phones (and which will remain exclusive) (https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/13/pixel-3-features-coming-older-pixel-phones-will-remain-exclusive/)

Good amount of stuff for both, and the Pixel 3 exclusives mostly make sense (being hardware based and using the Visual Core more.)
Nice, I'm fine sticking with my Pixel 2 XL. Motion auto focus and super res zoom are the only Pixel 3 exclusive features I'll be missing out on.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on October 14, 2018, 01:28:33 PM
Yeah, they're doing pretty good by old Pixel owners. Good stuff.

Ugh I can't believe my Pixel 3 won't be here for 8 days. :fbm
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on October 14, 2018, 03:08:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlGVYe20N84

Yo yo yo yo this shit isn't even color graded or using any kind of extra lens either. I'm drooling at the possibilities. :drool
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on October 15, 2018, 03:38:37 PM
Google is adding external microphone support to its camera app on Pixel phones (https://9to5google.com/2018/10/15/pixel-external-microphone-support-camera-app/)

In-depth Pixel 3 XL display test puts Google in the same ballpark as Samsung and Apple (https://9to5google.com/2018/10/15/pixel-3-xl-display-test-in-depth-displaymate/)

Quote
The Absolute Color Accuracy of the Pixel 3 XL is Truly Impressive… and very likely considerably better than any mobile display, monitor, TV or UHD TV that you have.

8)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on October 15, 2018, 04:09:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSFNpJJeo4c

Holy shit those photo comparisons. :o Pixel 3 is a true generational leap.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on October 16, 2018, 01:26:50 AM
Got my $50 Google Store credit... notification :rejoice

Pixel Stand incoming... in 4-6 weeks :rejoice

Moment case here Friday :rejoice

Pixel 3 here Monday :rejoice
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Crash Dummy on October 16, 2018, 03:04:37 AM
tasty, did you go for the xl or regular?
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: brawndolicious on October 16, 2018, 03:10:48 AM
I just figured out it's the iPhone of Android.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on October 16, 2018, 10:55:23 AM
FedEx says my phone might be here Friday instead of Monday or Tuesday!! :o Yes!! :rejoice

tasty, did you go for the xl or regular?

Regular, white, 128 GB. :) I had the Pixel 2 XL last year, but I prefer smaller phones, and the Pixel 3 is basically a small Pixel 2 XL -- best of both worlds.

I just figured out it's the iPhone of Android.

From a great many perspectives, that's been Google's primary playbook with the Pixel line. Still a ways to go on the support/retail sides but they are making progress.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on October 16, 2018, 10:58:16 AM
Also, the phones this year are indeed using Samsung panels (just as Apple and, well, Samsung themselves do.) Last year's controversial Pixel 2 XL panel was sourced from LG so it makes sense that people are noticing a big improvement this year.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: naff on October 16, 2018, 07:04:23 PM
I just figured out it's the iPhone of Android.

naw, that's the Samsung S series
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: naff on October 16, 2018, 07:09:35 PM
Holy shit those photo comparisons. :o Pixel 3 is a true generational leap.

 :thinking

i dont see it man, looks very incremental relative to XS and Note 9, and ymmv relative to how much you're into HDR.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on October 17, 2018, 12:55:33 PM
Titan M makes Pixel 3 our most secure phone yet (https://www.blog.google/products/pixel/titan-m-makes-pixel-3-our-most-secure-phone-yet/)

(https://i.imgur.com/NRFfLDt.png)

:rejoice
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on October 17, 2018, 02:34:45 PM
Pixel Stand seems pretty smart and the current wireless charger to beat.

Quote
In our hands-on, we learned that Google is using some special way of communicating with the Stand, thanks to a data stream embedded in the wireless charging signal. That means you can have different settings for different Stands (say one at home, one at the office) and you can't get these features with any other wireless charging accessories.

https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/17/pixel-stand-app-hits-play-store-apk-download/
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 18, 2018, 12:57:44 AM
Titan M makes Pixel 3 our most secure phone yet (https://www.blog.google/products/pixel/titan-m-makes-pixel-3-our-most-secure-phone-yet/)

(https://i.imgur.com/NRFfLDt.png)

:rejoice

As in "we we will be the only ones monitoring your evert move"
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Assimilate on October 18, 2018, 01:13:20 AM
Trusting Google with privacy

 :crowdlaff
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on October 18, 2018, 01:25:13 AM
Trusting <x> with privacy :crowdlaff

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Trust :crowdlaff
[close]
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on October 18, 2018, 02:44:44 AM
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/17/ifixits-pixel-3-xl-teardown-reveals-samsung-made-screen/

Huh.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on October 23, 2018, 12:53:50 PM
:drudge chrono alert :drudge

Google Play Movies & TV upgrading past SD and HD film purchases to 4K for free (https://9to5google.com/2018/10/23/google-play-movies-4k-sd-hd-upgrade/)

:rejoice
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on October 23, 2018, 03:03:30 PM
The upcoming Night Sight mode for the Google Camera app on Pixels has leaked, and... :neo

No HDR+: (https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8cfd5a52322dde6218604362cb36cf5fcf527d5487b0c73574e85f31e4846492.jpg?w=600&h=456)

HDR+: (https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b250770126b10791fe162aa082814dd0b10cc33bfc17d76af0a8dd4f7a4d5456.jpg?w=600&h=456)

HDR+ Enhanced: (https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ecc3ffd5e1bc685e463a045d799ee86dde14101770c8ffea77a39680a5f6d510.jpg?w=600&h=456)

Night Sight: (https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6abeea710974eae4e0c730f8b119790ccf3c8c16bfbfeca0406b5bdcd58fea14.jpg?w=600&h=456)



HDR+: (https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cfce9042850043428f45827da31f1238d32bfc77240b8bd775a617cdf87583ba.jpg?w=600&h=456)

Night Sight: (https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c2a338cda0246982b7cede43faaf62281c61e78aa34fa71b2fcc89aff74878d9.jpg?w=600&h=456)



HDR+: (https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6e73bf7126dc1f35d85f7a1c3c588a9e2874a824c1d57605674dde26e90ae3d3.jpg?w=600&h=456)

Night Site: (https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c4a7a69f5bdd6aebb56e01ec424f2cb7bb140df2e52a3fc6b3250ec0e2baa70e.jpg?w=600&h=456)



This is goddamn black magic.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on October 24, 2018, 05:49:45 PM
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOtDnbHbOnMkGBClVLh3itoGrIZbQKx_Q0F_krB_naAXiJyYCQU1WHG2mB655Ebfw?key=eXdMbmJMRkpyUGc4eEVKUFFmTXA0XzZZNDlmamZB

:o
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on October 29, 2018, 11:46:18 AM
For those that find the Pixel line just a bit too premium:

https://9to5google.com/2018/10/29/oneplus-6t-official-specs-price/

Good stuff. Probably whiffs on the camera compared to current flagships but that's a good design and great specs at a decent price. And post-Project Treble/Oreo, I'm much more likely to recommend a third-party phone these days (as long as the UI keeps close to stock, a la Essential, Motorola, OnePlus, etc.)
Title: Re: Google Shillery and general fanboy ass licking
Post by: naff on October 29, 2018, 07:17:31 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/DH9QO7y.jpg)

https://www.engadget.com/2018/10/29/google-pixel-3-xl-second-notch-bug-fix/

:lol
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on October 29, 2018, 07:48:30 PM
The dev options let you put a notch on all four sides.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: naff on October 29, 2018, 08:01:57 PM
The dev options let you put a notch on all four sides.

 :(
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on October 29, 2018, 08:06:04 PM
The dev options let you put a notch on all four sides.

 :(

But Google's Android OEM agreement prevents manufacturers from making phones with more than one notch, and it has to be on a "short side" (top or bottom.) :)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Maiden Voyage on November 12, 2018, 09:15:07 PM
Not sure where to post this, but if you are a Spotify family subscriber or are willing to become one for $15, you can get a Google Home Mini.
https://www.spotify.com/us/family/

Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: TVC15 on November 13, 2018, 11:48:43 AM
Btw, Tastee, I ordered a Google Slate. If I don’t like it, I think you should have to show the forum the portion of your body that most resembles the color salmon.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on November 13, 2018, 02:44:06 PM
Btw, Tastee, I ordered a Google Slate. If I don’t like it, I think you should have to show the forum the portion of your body that most resembles the color salmon.

The bottom of my feet?
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on November 13, 2018, 02:44:35 PM
Also if you don't like it I'll pay you to ship it to me, cause I'm just that nice.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on November 14, 2018, 04:25:47 PM
Night Sight is here!!

https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/14/18092660/google-night-sight-review-pixel-2-3-camera-photos-image-quality

https://youtu.be/yUwJK5aJYbs

Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: bork on November 15, 2018, 08:25:30 AM
Just tried it out...really awesome new feature!
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: bork on November 15, 2018, 08:34:47 AM
https://www.knowyourmobile.com/tablets/25373/ipad-pro-2018-vs-google-pixel-slate

Says that the iPad Pro destroys the Slate. 
:dunno
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on November 15, 2018, 08:46:33 AM
https://www.knowyourmobile.com/tablets/25373/ipad-pro-2018-vs-google-pixel-slate

Says that the iPad Pro destroys the Slate. 
:dunno

It doesn't surprise me. The first software update including tablet mode on Chrome OS only just came out a few days ago. :lol :lol

Google has a ways to go on the experience, but the basics of a really amazing app/program library is there for the future. And as Android demonstrated, if Google can keep focused on something for a few goddamn years it usually turns out pretty good.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on November 17, 2018, 08:59:11 AM
https://9to5google.com/2018/11/16/alleged-pixel-3-lite-leaked-images/

All-plastic design, included headphone jack, and a slower Snapdragon 670 (instead of 845.) Wonder how much it'll be.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 17, 2018, 10:17:01 AM
Andy, do you have any of the Google Home devices?  We have an Echo Dot but I think we’re getting a Home Hub for Christmas and I wanna get my home prepared.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on November 17, 2018, 10:28:04 AM
I have three Homes and a Home Mini. What do you want to know?
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 17, 2018, 02:14:59 PM
Can you pair up the Home minis as a stereo setup like you can for the new Dots?  What are some of the best home accessories (smart bulbs, smart plugs, etc)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on November 17, 2018, 03:16:57 PM
Stereo, no, unless you get a Home Max. But LOL at getting two of those things for just stereo support.

But you can create arbitrary synced groups. Not the same as stereo but good for multi-room audio.

I decided to go with Philips Hue for lightbulbs since they're the market leader, but the bulbs are individually expensive and need a hub to function. Google is now recommending GE's C-Life hubless smart bulbs (selling them bundled with Home Minis), so you should probably go with them if you don't need other light types (like Hue's light strips) or accessories (like Hue's detachable Wi-Fi dimmer switches, of which I have two.)

I still haven't found a personal use case for smart plugs.

As for the rest of my smart home:

- Chromecasts on all TVs is one of the most important cornerstones for me personally. Home will sometimes display info or follow-up questions on the TV, plus the obvious functionality of casting photos/videos/security cam footage.
- My Roomba is Wi-Fi connected, and in addition to having it on a set schedule, I can also activate and turn it off using the Google Assistant. (There's also a neat IFTTT service that will pause the Roomba when you get a call on your phone.)
- I use a Logitech Harmony Hub to control my TV's on/off state and volume levels by voice. (It's janky as fuck though, but that's all on Logitech's side.)
- I have a Nest Cam IQ indoor camera, and it works flawlessly with Google's products as you'd expect.
- I have Google Wifi for a router. There's hints that more integration with Google Home and their other smart home products is in development, which reaffirms my decision to get one.
- Finally, I have a Weight Gurus Wifi Scale -- I step on it, it beeps twice, I step off, and my weight is automatically posted to Google Fit (without the hellish nightmare that is Bluetooth syncing to a smartphone app each time.)

If I expected to have my own apartment and a stable income in 2019, my next purchases would likely be the Wi-Fi-enabled Roomba mop ("Braava Jet"), Nest thermostat, Nest smoke detector, and the Nest Secure alarm system (already down $100 from its release last year.)

PS- The dumbest but most surprisingly-useful IFTTT service I've found yet merely blinks my Hue lights when my Dominoes order a block away is ready for pickup.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on November 17, 2018, 04:19:44 PM
Also editing a post bumping the thread list is kinda dumb.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: bork on November 17, 2018, 04:53:59 PM
https://9to5google.com/2018/11/16/alleged-pixel-3-lite-leaked-images/

All-plastic design, included headphone jack, and a slower Snapdragon 670 (instead of 845.) Wonder how much it'll be.

May not be released outside of Asia.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on November 17, 2018, 05:21:24 PM
It's likely directed at India, which is where an increased portion of Google's attention has been these past few years.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on November 17, 2018, 05:24:17 PM
Speaking of Google Home groups: https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/11/17/chromecasts-can-now-added-google-home-speaker-groups/ :rejoice
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on November 21, 2018, 10:00:52 AM
"Google's Find My Device can now map out exactly where you left your phone inside some buildings" (https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/11/20/googles-find-device-can-now-map-exactly-left-phone-buildings/)




Protip: If you don't want Find my Phone to generate a notification on your lock screen when you use it from a desktop or other device, you can set the notification channel for it to the lowest setting (https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/9yuzxi/googles_find_my_device_can_now_map_out_exactly/ea4swmc/) (Silent and Minimize.) (You can also do this for any notification you get.)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on November 21, 2018, 10:10:39 AM
Another cool Night Sight example.

Normal:

(https://i.redd.it/nrit0w8mmoz11.jpg)

Flash:

(https://i.redd.it/f6x9vd1rmoz11.jpg)

Night Sight:

(https://i.redd.it/s5ztcj6smoz11.jpg)

RIP Barry Allen
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on November 21, 2018, 10:12:47 AM
Pixel Slate having Duo but not Chrome OS overall is some dumb shit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/chromeos/comments/9yw343/google_duo_is_finally_available_on_chrome_os/

:rejoice
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on November 24, 2018, 08:38:14 PM
I am now the proud owner of a Pixelbook.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
It's a justified business expense 😏 -- I actually *did* need something for app development since my $200 ARM Chromebook just can't run certain Intel-based Linux apps. Specifically, Google's own Flutter dev kit doesn't run on ARM. And while $700 ($300 off) is just OK for the specs it's spectacular for the actual hardware/build quality.

Not looking forward to buying a shitty used Mac and iPhone to export the iOS version but I'm pretty happy with my decision, presently.
[close]
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on December 09, 2018, 08:58:45 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/0QxAwTZ.jpg)

Google Pixel 3 Lite and 3 XL Lite
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: chronovore on December 09, 2018, 10:46:39 PM
How easy is the Echo Dot to use for my elderly mother? Is there a way to make it just "Tap to Call Chronovore"?
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on December 09, 2018, 11:00:40 PM
How easy is the Echo Dot to use for my elderly mother? Is there a way to make it just "Tap to Call Chronovore"?

Thread does not include Amazon trash, sorry
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: brawndolicious on December 09, 2018, 11:16:34 PM
I believe you can just say "Alexa, call Chronovore" and it'll do that. I'm pretty sure you have to set up the account profiles and stuff for her tho.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: chronovore on December 10, 2018, 04:04:25 AM
How easy is the Echo Dot to use for my elderly mother? Is there a way to make it just "Tap to Call Chronovore"?

Thread does not include Amazon trash, sorry
Ooops, guess I wasn't paying close enough attention to thread titles.
 :-[
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: TVC15 on December 10, 2018, 08:00:52 AM
BTW Fedex lost my shipment and I've been battling 2+ weeks for a refund.  This has been really aggravating.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Brehvolution on December 10, 2018, 09:39:15 AM
I believe you can just say "Alexa, call Chronovore" and it'll do that. I'm pretty sure you have to set up the account profiles and stuff for her tho.

Nope. You can answer incoming calls, but not make outgoing calls. I found this out setting it up for my father in law.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: chronovore on December 10, 2018, 10:23:17 AM
I believe you can just say "Alexa, call Chronovore" and it'll do that. I'm pretty sure you have to set up the account profiles and stuff for her tho.

Nope. You can answer incoming calls, but not make outgoing calls. I found this out setting it up for my father in law.

Boo! Thanks for saving me $130!
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on December 10, 2018, 01:31:13 PM
:piss Lenovo Devices :piss2

Fixed. Should have went for the Home Hub breh.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on December 12, 2018, 04:33:52 PM
Picked up a Pixelbook Pen for half-off. Works pretty well. :doge
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: TVC15 on December 19, 2018, 08:29:53 PM
Hey Tasty,

My keyboard and pen came in for my slate. They're both pretty nice, and I think this would be a capable PC/Mac replacement (if just for basic productivity work).

The keyboard doesn't feel as much of a design slam dunk as the current iPad Pro one, but I think it probably types better, plus it's more useful all around since Apple neglected to really take advantage of hotkeys (or a touch pad). It feels very solid. I wish the "hinge" was a little more solid. It feels particularly rubbery, especially when you bend the keyboard back to go into tablet mode.

Pen seems very responsive. Probably won't use it much until OneNote finishes loading my gigs of journals.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on December 20, 2018, 08:14:21 AM
Nice!

Yeah I'm curious about the keyboard the most, especially the rounded keys. Otherwise it seems the same as the Pixelbook's keyboard which is flat out amazing.

And then Pen is fun. It's weird that it works better in a JavaScript port of MS Paint than Google Keep though. :thinking
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on December 20, 2018, 04:51:20 PM
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/chromebooks-windows-dual-boot/

Dual booting Windows on Chromebooks is expected to be announced in January at CES.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on December 21, 2018, 02:34:25 AM
https://canvas.apps.chrome/

Literally right as I complain that Google Keep is weirdly laggy with the Pixelbook Pen, Google goes ahead and creates a dedicated drawing web app *specifically* built around the Pen and its new Ink API. :rejoice
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on December 22, 2018, 03:43:32 PM
https://www.aboutchromebooks.com/news/chrome-os-72-dev-channel-mobile-tablet-view-web-page-setting/

Between a full desktop-class browser with the web's best library of extensions, the full-fledged mobile Android app catalog, upcoming Windows 10 dual-boot feature, and this new mobile rendering option, Chrome OS is truly becoming the all-in-one operating system.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on December 29, 2018, 03:14:30 AM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://i.imgur.com/yuVN2sUl.jpg)
[close]

:nintendo The only one I can rule out 100% is Clips.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on January 17, 2019, 02:55:32 PM
https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/17/google-is-buying-fossils-smartwatch-tech-for-40-million/

Pixel Watch incoming :rejoice

Probably not until October 2020 tho :goty2
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on January 20, 2019, 01:01:39 PM
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/01/20/the-pixel-3-and-3-xl-are-150-off-on-the-google-store/

Permanent price drop on the Google Store. Pixel 3 now starts at $649.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on January 26, 2019, 01:43:41 AM
Rumor/leak dump!

https://9to5google.com/2019/01/25/android-q-system-ui-apk-insight/

^ Android Q (10.0) UI

https://9to5google.com/2019/01/25/google-coral-benchmark-android-q/

^ Probable Pixel 4 specs

https://9to5google.com/2019/01/25/google-pixel-watch-codenames-appear/

^ Two potential Pixel Watch codenames have appeared

Google Hardware Event 2019 is gonna be fucking lit :rejoice
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on April 15, 2019, 11:32:01 PM
@TIMU:

https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/04/15/google-starting-to-roll-out-pixel-system-updates-through-play-store/

Technical stuff: https://www.xda-developers.com/android-q-apex-biggest-thing-since-project-treble/

So it still won't be 100% of what goes into a system update, and it's Pixel only (for now, by virtue of Pixels being the first Android Q/10.0 phones.) But there ya go.



Also since I was last in this thread, here's some upcoming Google hardware:

- Stadia Controller
- Nest Hub - aka Google Home Hub renamed
- Nest Hub Max - bigger screen and has a camera
- Pixel 3a/3a XL - cheaper versions of the Pixel 3

With the latter three probably getting announced May 7th.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on April 16, 2019, 06:49:35 PM
https://9to5google.com/2019/04/16/pixel-top-5-united-states/

Pixel has topped LG as a whole to become the #3 premium smartphone brand.

Pixel doubters/haters on suicide watch.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on April 18, 2019, 04:19:26 PM
Amazon and Google finally kissed and made up after like 7-8 years.

Officials YouTube, YouTube TV, and YouTube Kids apps are coming to Amazon Fire devices and TVs.

And Chromecast support is coming to Prime Video.

8)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Quaker on April 22, 2019, 08:33:30 AM
Anyone got a Google Fi referral code? Thinking about trying it out since they have Pixel 3s for half off today.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 05, 2019, 10:01:43 PM
I/O in two days boyyysss.

- Pixel 3a / 3a XL for $400
- Pixel on Sprint and T-Mobile maybe?
- Home Hub becomes Nest Hub, maybe Nest Hub Max is shown
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: kingv on May 06, 2019, 11:39:16 AM
Amazon and Google finally kissed and made up after like 7-8 years.

Officials YouTube, YouTube TV, and YouTube Kids apps are coming to Amazon Fire devices and TVs.

And Chromecast support is coming to Prime Video.

8)

Ended up giving my kid my iPad because her amazon kindle fire didn’t have stupid YouTube kids.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 07, 2019, 04:00:47 PM
Nest Hub Max is $229, supports the Thread low-power IoT standard, and has a better front-facing camera than Nest's current top-of-the-line Cam IQ.

Nest is now Google Nest.

Google Home Hub is now Nest Hub and got a price cut to $129.

Pixel 3a starts at $399, includes headphone jack, Pixel 3-quality camera and software updates, and no wireless charging or water resistance. New Pixel color: "Purple-ish."
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 07, 2019, 04:05:26 PM
Pixel 3a doesn't include the Pixel Visual Core chip, but does include the Titan M security chip.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 07, 2019, 08:43:54 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/9kAFwwk.gif)

Insane. If you told this to people in 2010 no one would have believed you.

I always thought Chrome OS had potential but it's still surprising to me.

Speaking of, all Chromebooks that ship in 2019 will have Linux app support, and there's a whole bunch of software updates coming to make it easier to share files between Android/Linux/Chrome OS and debug apps in general.

I think the last thing now for Chrome OS to really compete (for non-gamers obvsly lol) is Adobe suite support...
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 07, 2019, 09:42:48 PM
https://nest.com/whats-happening/#whats-happening-to-the-works-with-nest-program

Works with Nest API is dying :yikes x 1000

This has the potential to easily be the worst and most damaging Google shutdown ever. Keep an eye on the blogosphere for this to blow up sometime before the August shutoff.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 08, 2019, 02:30:39 PM
https://twitter.com/harrymccracken/status/1125887589267828736

Also, all the price cuts:

Google Home (2016)                               $129 -> $99
Google Home Max (2017)                        $399 -> $299
Nest Hub (née Google Home Hub, 2018)   $149 -> $129

Pretty reasonable all around.

Will be interesting to see the Nest brand take over from Google Home for the speakers, probably gonna confuse the fuck out of people for a little while but that may be to Google's benefit -- normies today probably consider the Assistant and a Home speaker synonymous, but by downplaying the Google brand for the product names it highlights Google Assistant more as a distinct entity which can work across many devices, not just a single speaker.

Would be reeeeaaaally weird if they touch the Chromecast's branding though. Short of (stupidly) killing the entire line to launch a Pixel TV or something, even though the name "Chromecast" makes almost zero sense anymore in the context of Google's overall plans, I can't see them messing with something so successful.

Then again, Google. :lol
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 08, 2019, 02:34:54 PM
Also an I/O recap vid for all the non-hardware stuff they announced:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5hgDLc618M
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 08, 2019, 03:54:11 PM
Treble stuff: https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2019/05/fresher-os-with-projects-treble-and-mainline.html

- Double the amount of devices became eligible for this year's beta program compared to last year
- The latest version of Android (8.0/Oreo) was at 5.7% worldwide by the time I/O 2018 rolled around; this year 10.4% of Android devices are on the latest major version (9.0/Pie) as of I/O 2019
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 10, 2019, 03:01:59 PM
https://twitter.com/Google/status/1125815241026166784

Siri and Alexa seem kinda fucked
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 11, 2019, 06:21:45 PM
Because I'm a giant nerd, I thought about what the ideal Google hardware lineup might look like after their October even this year...

Pixel 3a and 3a XL      no changes
Pixel 4 and Pixel 4 XL  new product
Pixelbook 2             new product
Pixel Buds 2            new product

Nest Speak              aka "Google Home 2"
Nest Speak Mini         rename
Nest Speak Max          rename
Nest Hub                no changes
Nest Hub Max            no changes
Nest Thermostat 4       new product
Nest Thermostat 4e      aka "Nest Thermostat E - 2nd Gen"
Nest Protect 3          new product
Nest Cam 3              combination Nest Cam Indoor + Outdoor IQ
Nest Wifi               aka "Google Wifi 2"
Nest Secure             no changes
Detect/Connect/Tag      no changes
Nest Hello              no changes

Chromecast 4            combination Chromecast 3rd Gen + Ultra


I'm not betting on a Pixel Watch but it'd be nice.

Daydream seems to be dead, or getting close to it... :( :'( :fbm

With the Nest line I want the design language on new versions of older products cleaned up to match the direction they've been going in since 2016/2017. And the names to be saner. Google seems fine using iPhone-like numbering for the Pixels, so push that shit to new iterations on your other products too.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 11, 2019, 08:10:52 PM
1997:

(https://i.imgur.com/F7f4vfS.jpg)

2019:

(https://i.imgur.com/yXEAu3I.jpg)

:rejoice
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: brawndolicious on May 11, 2019, 09:27:00 PM
Everybody hates video calls. Until we get to a future where we can control the camera with a little drone that follows you around like Navi, fuck it all in the dumpster.

Unrelated, but I really, really want all messaging and communication apps to move to an open standard that keeps your data private. Throw blockchain in the pitch if you need funding and go kill  Google and Apple, Mr. Meat.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Rufus on May 11, 2019, 11:51:16 PM
Everybody hates video calls. Until we get to a future where we can control the camera with a little drone that follows you around like Navi, fuck it all in the dumpster.
:noooo I'd Skyrim-bucket them immediately.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 16, 2019, 11:11:57 AM
https://www.blog.google/products/google-nest/updates-works-with-nest/

- Existing Works With Nest devices and services will continue to work (no shutdown.)
- The original August 31, 2019 shutdown date is now the cutoff date for connecting new devices and services using Works With Nest (instead of the preferred Works With Google Assistant.)
- Reiteration that Amazon Alexa will continue to work, as well as announcing that a set of the most popular third-party Works With Nest services -- if they can't migrate yet to Works With Google Assistant -- will retain their access after accepting regular security audits and allowing more user control over the data.
- Google Assistant Routines will get easier to use and more powerful, presumably to offset some of the sting of losing direct Nest IFTTT support (there is a Google Assistant service on IFTTT, but it doesn't offer direct device access.)

Works With Nest now currently does not have a hard shut-off date, and I would bet it probably won't for a year or two.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 26, 2019, 04:52:22 PM
https://9to5google.com/2019/05/26/google-pixel-slate-discount/

Pixel Slate is now $200 across all three models: $599 for m3, $799 for i5, and the i7 is $1399. The Celeron versions which disappeared shortly after launch have yet to reappear, so those are prooooobably dead.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Crash Dummy on June 03, 2019, 04:01:33 AM
got a google home mini as a gift, what do?
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Potato on June 03, 2019, 06:35:40 AM
I really like Google's hardware, but fuck me if they don't need to kill whoever is responsible for the absolute mess that is their branding. So confusing.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on June 03, 2019, 07:01:27 AM
got a google home mini as a gift, what do?

Buncha stuff: https://blog.google/products/home/google-home-mini-has-arrivedheres-what-you-can-do-it/
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Crash Dummy on June 03, 2019, 08:02:17 AM
got a google home mini as a gift, what do?

Buncha stuff: https://blog.google/products/home/google-home-mini-has-arrivedheres-what-you-can-do-it/
gonna have to get a chromecast now =/ just set it up and like how responsive it is. i can see myself using more over time
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on June 13, 2019, 10:08:17 AM
https://twitter.com/madebygoogle/status/1138876305158500353

:thinking :doge

Fan render:

(https://i.imgur.com/xvLsTgG.jpg)

Still at least four months away...
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: bork on June 13, 2019, 02:13:49 PM
Yup, that's a phone. :zzz  Nice to see thinner bezels on both models.

Might go with this and upgrade from the Pixel 2, but at the same time...it's still working great so don't know if I need to.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Crash Dummy on June 25, 2019, 05:33:55 AM
has anyone tried the google router replacement/single wifi point thing? i have a router that the isp provided at the time of setting up my internet and it's terribad with a range of like 20ft so debating this from google over getting a bunch of signal boosters
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on June 25, 2019, 07:56:17 AM
Yeah, it's really slick and works about as well as you could hope. I also dig how easy it is to see and name devices, set a "priority" device, and otherwise manage things will the app. Downside is there's no "local" administration web page/site, so hope you have a mobile device (or Chromebook) nearby.

Though there might be an upgraded model coming in October? But there's been rumored devices before (Pixel Watch) that never ended up getting announced...
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: pilonv1 on June 25, 2019, 08:04:32 AM
Yup, that's a phone. :zzz  Nice to see thinner bezels on both models.

Might go with this and upgrade from the Pixel 2, but at the same time...it's still working great so don't know if I need to.

I can't think of a reason for me to upgrade from my Pixel 2. Camera is amazing and everything is still running smoothly. Maybe once updates slow down.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Crash Dummy on June 25, 2019, 09:42:06 AM
thanks tasty, will probably pick one up over the weekend as i can't wait until october in the hopes a new model may be released
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on June 25, 2019, 09:59:38 AM
thanks tasty, will probably pick one up over the weekend as i can't wait until october in the hopes a new model may be released

Nice. And if a new model is announced, odds are it can be added as a node to an existing Google Wifi mesh as easily as the older model.

I mean you never know, but that would be my bet.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Crash Dummy on June 26, 2019, 05:22:10 AM
well the current model claims to provide solid coverage for places around 1500 sq ft and reviews i've read all seem very positive; even with the lack of an admin page, apparently you don't feel the need to go into such settings to get the best out of it and tbh i can't remember the last time i ever dicked around with router settings as admin
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on June 26, 2019, 07:36:25 AM
Yeah those admin pages are usually The Worst™.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on July 08, 2019, 02:30:35 PM
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/07/08/pixel-4-xl-renders/

(https://i.imgur.com/7F68EJF.jpg)

>no fingerprint reader
>bottom-firing speakers

googel why
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 08, 2019, 04:56:18 PM
Bezels in the year of our lord, 2019?

:jeanluc

(maybe in display fingerprint reader tho?)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on July 20, 2019, 12:46:36 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/YzAwvee.jpg)

Nabbing that smaller Pixel 4, probably in white too.

The design seems a bit unbalanced this year, though the XL is an aesthetic improvement without the notch. I'm very pleased both phones once again have identical designs, as I've desired since the first generation.

I will miss the "glass shade" on 1/3rd of the back, even the 3a has it. Ah well.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on July 20, 2019, 12:50:50 PM
Also rumor is that there's a FaceID-like sensor on the front now. Google is utterly shameless. :doge :trumps
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on July 22, 2019, 11:41:52 AM
https://9to5google.com/2019/07/22/pixel-slate-free-keyboard/

Pixel Slate is now $100 off on all models *and* includes the $100 official keyboard accessory. IMO it's probably still too floppy for real use, so you're better off shelling out for the $160 Brydge keyboard... but at that point just get a Pixelbook.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on July 22, 2019, 11:57:56 AM
This reminds me, don't think I posted it here but one of Google's hardware heads said that they won't be making any more tablets and will instead focus just on laptops for Chrome OS going forward. Well, at least the Slate was good for something! :P

Bummer the Pixelbook 2 later this year will be using Intels' 2018 chips and not their 2019 set. Ah well, guess that's how it usually goes...
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: TakingBackSunday on July 22, 2019, 02:24:41 PM
My whole house is now a Google house :doge
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on July 23, 2019, 11:03:55 AM
My whole house is now a Google house :doge

(https://i.imgur.com/eKy5L85.gif)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on July 29, 2019, 02:34:27 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/wOTIn5C.png)

https://youtu.be/KnRbXWojW7c

Kinect is back I guess? :dunno

Also "audio port" = earpiece, don't get excited.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on August 12, 2019, 12:57:00 PM
https://www.cnet.com/how-to/google-will-ask-you-to-migrate-your-nest-account-soon-heres-what-you-need-to-know/

Nest migration overview. Seems to make sense, and the Google Home app already has some hidden code around it.

If you have Nest connections you want to keep, don't migrate and don't disconnect those services after August 31 (or you won't be able to re-connect them.)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on August 13, 2019, 03:25:24 PM
https://9to5google.com/2019/08/12/google-pixel-microphone-lawsuit-settlement/

Free $20 if you owned Pixel 1.

(Much more if you had a mic issue and reported it to customer service.)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on August 22, 2019, 12:11:44 PM
https://9to5google.com/2019/08/21/exclusive-google-nest-mini-2nd-gen/

Google Home Mini + Chromecast Audio = Nest Mini

These things are going to fly off the shelves (more than the existing Home Mini already is...) Amazon should be a little worried...
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on August 22, 2019, 12:33:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2UDgpLz20M

No more cutesy dessert names. Android Q is just... Android 10.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on September 03, 2019, 11:59:36 AM
https://www.android.com/android-10/

Android 10 is out today for Pixels. Live Caption could be extremely useful... the 1-2 times a year you may ever need it. OS-level Smart Reply is wonderful.

Biggest change is more Treble stuff:

Quote
With Google Play system updates, important Security and Privacy fixes can now be sent directly to your phone from Google Play, just the same way all your other apps update.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: brawndolicious on September 03, 2019, 03:10:51 PM
I just got the notification on my $175 Essential PH-1. Good things come to those who are cheap.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on September 03, 2019, 08:19:45 PM
I think it's more good things come to those who have 5 minutes to do a little research before dropping hundreds of dollars on an item to be actively used for hundreds of hours.


Buuuuut thankfully going forward that's less of an issue.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: thisismyusername on September 03, 2019, 09:12:12 PM
Live Caption could be extremely useful... the 1-2 times a year you may ever need it.
[/quote]

*ahem* As a cripple, I need it far more often.

Can I just say: Fuck Googie for making it Q-only? Just like Live Transcribe was Pie-only for a while (thankfully came to Oreo... right before Motorola upgraded my phone to Pie).

Like, why would you make #A11y's OS exclusive?
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on September 03, 2019, 09:26:35 PM
Quote
Like, why would you make #A11y's OS exclusive?

I could see some non-marketing justifications.

- Fewer devices to test (including a far smaller number of resolutions and processors)
- Fewer versions and flavors of Android to test
- It's currently unoptimized code and only works as advertised on flagships but not lower-spec phones (as flagships generally receive OS updates first)
- The feature is in some form of beta and needs real user data to function properly (but not too much data, which a wide release would unleash)
- A significant number of the APIs necessary for it to work are Q/10-exclusive, and need to be backported to the Google Play Services compatibility library and/or the AndroidX APIs to work on past versions (such as Live Transcribe on Oreo)

Burying the lede because obviously low-level API access (not only to display transcriptions, but the ML pipeline to decode and translate system audio in real-time) is needed to make the feature work at all.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: thisismyusername on September 03, 2019, 10:19:02 PM
Sure, but you're going to advertise it widely (well, on your blog and get news sites to pick it up) only for disabled folks to be told "lol buy the latest shit, you poor" is serious  :maf inducing.

But for real though: Live Captions will be a god send for a shit ton of Youtube videos that don't offer auto-transcribed (even though those are shit, admittedly) captions. If it's as good as the Live Transcription app they've released, it'll be real good.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
For instance: RedLetterMedia didn't have subs for a good long while. Why do you think I focused on Jay so much? :doge
[close]
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Fifstar on September 04, 2019, 04:43:44 AM
Live caption might come in handy when the wife sends me voice messages during work.

I love gesture navigation and use it exclusively on my xiaomi so that's cool as well.

Opt out of ads retargeting - I don't believe you Google.

Focus mode is nice, although the ability to block certain sites like facebook in chrome would be more important for myself than blocking specific apps. Fake edit: Oh, it seems it actually that. Nice :)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: eleuin on September 04, 2019, 09:51:13 AM
System wide dark theme is so nice brehs  :rejoice
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on September 13, 2019, 12:46:31 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/EqlEBWa.jpg)

Looking like October 15th for announcement day.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on September 14, 2019, 09:48:53 PM
https://9to5google.com/2019/09/14/needlefish-google-pixel-4a-2019/

We might be getting a Pixel 4a next month too, sorry Cindi. 😬
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Crash Dummy on September 23, 2019, 07:28:32 AM
any idea when/if google's call screening service will come to non-pixel devices? i'm sick of random banks calling me to tell me about new loans and credit cards
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Beezy on October 15, 2019, 11:58:51 AM
Tasty, can you think of any reason why I shouldn't pre-order the 4XL just yet?
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 15, 2019, 01:41:54 PM
Tasty, can you think of any reason why I shouldn't pre-order the 4XL just yet?

...it's butt fuckin ugly is really the only justifiable one
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: james on October 15, 2019, 02:27:54 PM
You couldnt pay me to have this garbage
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: naff on October 15, 2019, 09:43:20 PM
google need to ripoff samsungs selfie cam in screen, edge to edge display already.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: naff on October 15, 2019, 09:52:53 PM
and their general build quality. S10e is easily the best phone i've owned despite the bloatware (mostly voided it's functionality and hidden any shite like bixby frm view, rerouted the hardware button etc), because it's extremely pretty, fast and not bordering on tablet proportions.

:whoo

(https://www.gizmofashion.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/s/1/s10_512_prism_white_1_1.jpg)



Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: kingv on October 17, 2019, 08:49:25 AM
Why did google just rename everything Nest?

It’s a really weird transition. Like usually, best practice would be to merge the brand names somewhat slowly but instead google is like “hey you know that Google Home brand we have been building for 3 years? Thats gone, it’s all just called Nest now, like the thermostat.”
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: bork on October 23, 2019, 05:39:50 PM
Got a Pixel 4 XL today. 

And uh...yup, it's a phone.  Does phone things.  Face unlock is slick.  Camera is nice.  Radar gestures seem kinda shitty unless I'm just doing it wrong.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Beezy on October 23, 2019, 10:19:04 PM
Got a Pixel 4 XL today. 

And uh...yup, it's a phone.  Does phone things.  Face unlock is slick.  Camera is nice.  Radar gestures seem kinda shitty unless I'm just doing it wrong.
How's recording video on it, especially in low lighting? I'm still on a Pixel 2XL and I'm hoping it's at least better than that.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: bork on October 23, 2019, 10:26:50 PM
Will have to get back to you on that- haven't messed with video.  Reviews are pretty high on the camera in general though.  Looks like it's the top Android camera.  Although 4K video recording is 30 FPS.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Beezy on October 23, 2019, 10:30:33 PM
The only complaint I've heard that truly makes me second guess getting this right away is the battery life.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 23, 2019, 11:38:54 PM
The 90hz screen really drains battery pretty fast, on the OnePlus 7 Pro at least. And the Pixel 4 XL has a slightly smaller battery.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: bork on October 24, 2019, 04:18:25 PM
Don't buy the regular Pixel 4 That's the one that has a really small battery and has reviewers saying that it can't even last a whole day on normal use. The XL battery could be better but I've seen people say that it's possible Google has some tricks with the software to make things last longer and that maybe why they went with that particular size battery it also makes the phone lighter.  The 90Hz screen is adaptive so it's supposedly will conserve battery life and you can always turn it off if you're that worried about the battery but I've seen some reviews that just said don't worry about it use it as they intended it and the XLshould be fine.  It's certainly lasting longer than my regular size Pixel 2 did. By the way I wrote this post using the speech to text option it's working pretty well it's much faster than the previous phone was although the grammar isn't perfect lol
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: bork on October 24, 2019, 04:23:53 PM
I've read that there's also an issue with the 90 Hz not even working if your screen display brightness is below 75%-- so I have no idea if I'm even using the 90 Hz stuff right now.  :lol

If it's not on, this is still really smooth so color me impressed.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: remy on October 24, 2019, 07:56:18 PM
I've read that there's also an issue with the 90 Hz not even working if your screen display brightness is below 75%-- so I have no idea if I'm even using the 90 Hz stuff right now.  :lol

If it's not on, this is still really smooth so color me impressed.
You can actually see if you fuck around around with the brightness toggle and then scroll a page afterwards. I have a 4XL and was messing with it last night  :lol It's not a deal breaker but it seems like a really random decision  :lol
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on December 03, 2019, 05:46:24 PM
https://www.blog.google/inside-google/alphabet/letter-from-larry-and-sergey/

So long, Larry and Sergei. End of an era.

(https://i.imgur.com/o8UqSr5.jpg)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on December 05, 2019, 12:35:43 PM
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/12/qualcomms-new-snapdragon-865-is-25-faster-comes-with-mandatory-5g/

Quote
Given that Qualcomm and Android are the "Wintel" of the mobile world, the Snapdragon 865 also brings a few Android-centric benefits. David Ruddock of Android Police reports that Qualcomm will start providing Snapdragon 865 graphics driver updates through the Play Store, allowing users to update their graphics drivers just as they would an app.

💅🏻
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on December 29, 2019, 04:35:37 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/zuBm270.png)

Pixel 4aaayyyyyyyy
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Crash Dummy on January 02, 2020, 01:53:57 AM
4a is confirmed? my gf got a 3a recently and after a week it overheated and wouldn't switch on so returned it. if a 4a is coming soon i'll tell her to wait for that and use her old samsumg in the meantime
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on January 02, 2020, 02:22:19 AM
Nothing is confirmed but OnLeaks tends to be pretty reliable, and Google seems to be settling into a cadence, so a 4a announcement is probably coming in May at Google I/O (if your GF can wait that long.)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: bork on January 02, 2020, 09:25:02 AM
4a will apparently be noticeably underpowered compared to the regular Pixel 4.  Not sure if that's how it was with the 3a?
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on January 02, 2020, 10:04:24 AM
4a will apparently be noticeably underpowered compared to the regular Pixel 4.  Not sure if that's how it was with the 3a?

Hm, depends on your definition of noticeably. Side by side with a Pixel 3, the 3a definitely performs worse, but I mean, you don't shave 50% off the price of something without scaling a few pieces back.

Pixel 3a vs. Pixel 3:
+ Has a 3.5mm headphone jack
+ Has the same image sensor and back camera as the Pixel 3 (but no Visual Core, but that surprisingly wasn't used by the Google Camera app anyways... (https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-visual-core-google-camera-836006/))
+ Larger battery (+85 mAh on the smaller model, +270 mAh on XL)
+/- Plastic frame instead of glass (more durable, but less premium)
+/- Same amount and type of RAM in both (4GB LPDDR4X)
- Dragontrail Glass screen material instead of Gorilla Glass 5
- Lower PPI and much lower resolution between the XL's (3a: 441 PPI, 3a XL: 402 PPI, 3: 443 PPI, 3 XL: 523 PPI)
- No wireless charging because of plastic frame
- Snapdragon 670 instead of 845 (think of the 6xx line as Qualcomm's "Celeron" line, decent performance at much lower draws)
- 3a has fixed 64GB storage -- no 128GB (or other) variations

Overall I'd say they were very smart about where to compromise and where not to. I haven't used one myself so I can't directly comment on performance, but I think like three posters here have a Pixel 3a so they can probably speak to it.

The 4a will likely:

- Be plastic (no wireless charging)
- Still have the headphone jack
- Still have the fingerprint sensor (despite the Pixel 4 ditching it)
- Use a Snapdragon 6xx chipset
- Have 6GB RAM like the Pixel 4

Would be really cool if they added waterproofing. That's kinda the only hardware feature left I could want.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on January 06, 2020, 12:36:42 PM
https://twitter.com/Google/status/1214225606461677569

"#MySuperG"? :confused

Shades of this abominable naming scheme: (https://i.imgur.com/LWaGosO.jpg)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Nintex on January 06, 2020, 12:38:06 PM
Hey Google, what about Stadia  :awesome
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on January 06, 2020, 12:53:32 PM
Hey Google, what about Stadia  :awesome

Probably waiting for GDC in March.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on April 07, 2020, 12:38:00 PM
https://www.blog.google/products/chromebooks/whats-new-april2020/

Chrome OS tablet mode actually looking decent (an improvement over the previous state of "hot garbage.")

TVC, you still got your Pixel Slate? Liking any of the new updates?

When I occasionally use my Pixelbook in tablet mode I have noticed improvements over the last couple months. Just wish they would support the Pen better.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on April 07, 2020, 12:38:53 PM
Hey Google, what about Stadia  :awesome

Probably waiting for GDC in March.

Also, :usacry
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 06, 2020, 03:52:10 PM
https://9to5google.com/2020/05/05/rumor-android-tv-google-tv/

LOL, time is a flat circle.

https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/05/06/new-report-seems-to-confirm-next-gen-chromecast-will-run-full-on-android-tv/

Nest Cast huh?
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 06, 2020, 04:04:17 PM
I find it to be a better experience but I find most Amazon stuff poorly designed.

You can schedule Custom Routines in the Google Home app to trigger music at any time of the day (and/or using a specified command.")

https://support.google.com/googlenest/answer/7029585

See section "Schedule a Custom Routine."
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: thisismyusername on May 11, 2020, 07:20:29 AM
Andy: Is there a phone out there without a pin-hole camera, able to play Gwent which has an OpenGL ES 3.2 requirement, and the ability to open the phone without needing a heat-gun/bunch of bullshit? :doge

Pinhole camera I can take, I guess, even though I hate those. But my god: My Moto G6 isn't able to be opened up like the G4 I owned previously (WTF): https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Motorola+Moto+G6+Battery+Replacement/127829

Why the fuck is there a glass back just to prevent people from opening and replacing the battery? :doge
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 11, 2020, 09:47:58 AM
I dunno. Repairability isn't super important to me (though it's starting to be, especially in phones I buy other people/family members...)

Pixel 4a this month will have a pinhole camera, not sure about the rest of your reqs but it should be pretty beefy.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: brawndolicious on May 11, 2020, 10:24:51 AM
Modern phones use glue instead of fasteners probably because it's cheaper to manufacture. Some say the glue construction method helps make it more waterproof too, I dunno.

Tomorrow they're revealing the Pixel 4a and Xiaomi Pocophone F2. Remains to be seen if the Xiaomi will support American 4G bands though. At this point, I think 3G and 5G support is pretty useless. It feels like there's no cheap flagship killers available for the west.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: thisismyusername on May 11, 2020, 11:09:19 AM
I mean, waterproof is nice. But at the expense of needing to heat up the phone (to dangerous levels), break a glass back (:doge ) just to get at the battery? (Which apparently is working fine now. I dunno what the issue was with it draining fast yesterday)  :doge :doge :doge

The G4 might not have been waterproof, but at least I could crack the back and fix it myself. I hate this black-boxed bullshit with tech.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Cryo on May 13, 2020, 08:01:19 PM
https://www.droid-life.com/2020/05/13/pixel-4-launch-sounds-like-a-massive-disaster-for-google/

 :money
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 13, 2020, 08:21:54 PM
Heads definitely should have rolled after P4 but not sure their head of photography should have been one of them...
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: remy on May 13, 2020, 08:39:46 PM
Heads definitely should have rolled after P4 but not sure their head of photography should have been one of them...
Right? Guillotine the one guy that did a good job  :-\

They should chop whoever made the call on battery capacity. I have an XL and love it but the battery made the phone look bad in virtually any comparison
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tripon on May 13, 2020, 08:48:17 PM
Pixel being on the high end of the market and still being half a generation behind of other high end phones always seem like a mistake to me. IMO, they should target mid to mid-high end phone market and try to keep it $500 as much as possible. The Pixel a line is a step towards that, but that should probably be the only products and try to upgrade the a line to something everyone wants to buy.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Cryo on May 13, 2020, 09:11:32 PM
at least they understand the target market for the a phones uses headphone jacks
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: pilonv1 on May 13, 2020, 09:37:30 PM
The Pixel 2 is amazing, how did they fuck up the 3 and 4 so badly?
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 13, 2020, 09:39:52 PM
I think the 3 is a great phone.

The 4 sounded bad even on paper... Decreasing the battery capacity while strapping on an always-on radar sensor? Lol ok.

Pixel 5 will probably be a mess still.

If they make their own chips like rumors say, then the Pixel 6 would probably be a return to form...
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 14, 2020, 07:06:36 PM
Also, got a second Titan USB-C key, which means I can finally enroll in Google's Advanced Protection Program to lock shit down. You can setup an Android phone or iPhone as a "key" using Bluetooth, or buy Bluetooth or NFC versions of the keys, but I didn't want anything wireless especially after the Bluetooth key had a recall last year... So, USB-C. Quite happy.

Not happy few services support FIDO2... or those that do still allow/enforce SMS 2FA first, completely defeating the point. :social2
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 17, 2020, 05:36:17 PM
https://www.phonearena.com/amp/news/Motion-Sense-will-reportedly-not-be-on-Pixel-5_id124688

Womp womp.

Well looks like the Pixel 5 will probably have battery life as a big focus lol.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: thisismyusername on May 17, 2020, 05:37:59 PM
Also, got a second Titan USB-C key, which means I can finally enroll in Google's Advanced Protection Program to lock shit down. You can setup an Android phone or iPhone as a "key" using Bluetooth, or buy Bluetooth or NFC versions of the keys, but I didn't want anything wireless especially after the Bluetooth key had a recall last year... So, USB-C. Quite happy.

Not happy few services support FIDO2... or those that do still allow/enforce SMS 2FA first, completely defeating the point. :social2

Why not get a Yubikey in that case?

But yeah, FIDO2 not being well supported is why I never really bought a Yubi or any other version of a hardware key.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 17, 2020, 05:46:56 PM
Also, got a second Titan USB-C key, which means I can finally enroll in Google's Advanced Protection Program to lock shit down. You can setup an Android phone or iPhone as a "key" using Bluetooth, or buy Bluetooth or NFC versions of the keys, but I didn't want anything wireless especially after the Bluetooth key had a recall last year... So, USB-C. Quite happy.

Not happy few services support FIDO2... or those that do still allow/enforce SMS 2FA first, completely defeating the point. :social2

Why not get a Yubikey in that case?

But yeah, FIDO2 not being well supported is why I never really bought a Yubi or any other version of a hardware key.

I dunno I just trust the Titan brand from having it in my last few phones and Pixelbook. I know the Titan USB-C key is a rebranded Yubikey (while the older USB-A/NFC and Bluetooth ones are rebranded Feitans) but its firmware is custom by Google's security team (same one as the phone/laptop chips), so it seemed like a natural brand synergy thing...

Funnily, when you go to set up Advanced Protection, it recommends only third-party keys (Feitan and Yubico) -- Titan is nowhere to be found.

I've been able to set up both my Titan keys for three services:

- Google (obvs)
- GitHub (just when I've started to rely on it far less...)
- Facebook

Twitter supports WebAuthn but only one key, and it requires you to have SMS 2FA on first, totally defeating the point! IMO all services that allow user accounts should, baseline, support the following:

- FIDO2/WebAuthn
- Setting up multiple keys
- Never allowing SMS 2FA, ever
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: thisismyusername on May 17, 2020, 05:50:02 PM
PSN still uses SMS 2Factor, annoyingly.

Though in a world of "you need to turn off 2Factor and then turn it back on" (a la Steam movement) between phones/apps, I dunno if I can really hate Sony for that when it's just "oh you need to login? Use your number" over "oh, you need to login and got a new phone? Hope you have your old one lol!"  :doge
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 17, 2020, 05:51:17 PM
Update: Oh snap, Facebook lets you set up two keys too! Nice. So that's like, three services. :P

And I'm thinking of shadow-deleting my FB account in a few weeks anyways...
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 17, 2020, 05:52:34 PM
PSN still uses SMS 2Factor, annoyingly.

Though in a world of "you need to turn off 2Factor and then turn it back on" (a la Steam movement) between phones/apps, I dunno if I can really hate Sony for that when it's just "oh you need to login? Use your number" over "oh, you need to login and got a new phone? Hope you have your old one lol!"  :doge

Google Authenticator app just this week got support for moving your 2FA accounts to a new phone. :jeb

No more off/on bullshit :klob

And a UI refresh to Material 2 on top of it all :rejoice
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 17, 2020, 06:14:29 PM
Bleh FB supports multiple keys but doesn't let you turn off app-based 2FA. It's a step up from requiring SMS 2FA like Twitter but I'd rather switch to hardware keys exclusively... but I realize that ideal world is still a ways off...
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: thisismyusername on May 17, 2020, 11:50:57 PM
GAuth was the fucking worst because it wasn't used by like anything. I used it for like Discord and regretted it. I just use WinAuth now if need-be, otherwise app/SMS until 2Factor standardization gets it's shit together.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 23, 2020, 10:49:44 AM
Ugh Pixel 4a delayed until Aug-Sep. :rage

Guess I'll have to settle on a 3a to replace my dying OG.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: bork on May 23, 2020, 12:08:19 PM
Late on replying to this, but the Pixel 4 XL is still working great for me.  Very glad I didn't get the regular size.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 24, 2020, 09:56:02 AM
Google Messages getting E2EE for RCS and Google Fi integration/syncing. :leon And also dead simple cloud-restores.

https://www.xda-developers.com/google-messages-end-to-end-encryption-rcs-google-fi-integration-manual-cloud-restores/

With these I'm pretty much 98% of the way towards finally switching from Google Voice + a third-party MVNO to just Google Fi...

(Looping back around to the 2FA discussion earlier, Google Fi is one of the only carriers that isn't susceptible to SIM-swap attacks, since it uses your Google Account for security (https://support.google.com/fi/thread/8246580?hl=en).)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on May 25, 2020, 07:36:19 PM
guys, quickly! is this a good deal?

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/google-pixel-3a-64gb-unlocked-just-black/6347785.p?skuId=6347785
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 25, 2020, 08:04:23 PM
Yup
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on May 25, 2020, 08:17:16 PM
Use topcashback and you should be able to save another $25

https://www.topcashback.com/best-buy-freebie/

thanks.

so is that a good deal? i don't do any mobile gaming and just looking for a phone with good battery life and camera.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tripon on May 25, 2020, 08:19:34 PM
guys, quickly! is this a good deal?

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/google-pixel-3a-64gb-unlocked-just-black/6347785.p?skuId=6347785

Yes, if for whatever reason you can't wait to pay full price for the Pixel 4a.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on May 25, 2020, 08:24:08 PM
guys, quickly! is this a good deal?

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/google-pixel-3a-64gb-unlocked-just-black/6347785.p?skuId=6347785

Yes, if for whatever reason you can't wait to pay full price for the Pixel 4a.

how much is that gonna be?
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: bork on May 25, 2020, 08:26:34 PM
guys, quickly! is this a good deal?

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/google-pixel-3a-64gb-unlocked-just-black/6347785.p?skuId=6347785

Yes, if for whatever reason you can't wait to pay full price for the Pixel 4a.

how much is that gonna be?

Unconfirmed, but speculation is $399.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on May 25, 2020, 08:28:34 PM
guys, quickly! is this a good deal?

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/google-pixel-3a-64gb-unlocked-just-black/6347785.p?skuId=6347785

Yes, if for whatever reason you can't wait to pay full price for the Pixel 4a.

how much is that gonna be?

Unconfirmed, but speculation is $399.

oh well then lol nevermind.

my budget was only gonna be around $250 or so.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on May 25, 2020, 08:32:30 PM
also, just saw this:

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/google-pixel-3a-xl-64gb-unlocked-just-black/6347790.p?skuId=6347790

supposedly TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS off?  :o

what's the catch? was a slightly bigger screen size worth THAT much?
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tripon on May 25, 2020, 08:40:44 PM
also, just saw this:

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/google-pixel-3a-xl-64gb-unlocked-just-black/6347790.p?skuId=6347790

supposedly TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS off?  :o

what's the catch? was a slightly bigger screen size worth THAT much?

You'll have to activate a new line with either Verizon, AT&T or Sprint for the $219 price.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on May 25, 2020, 08:44:43 PM
goddamn it. i have t-mobile  :'(

edit: so with best buy's "activate later" option, i can keep my tmobile line, i just have to pay more?
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tripon on May 25, 2020, 08:54:37 PM
Sprint just merged with Tmobile. Call a Tmobile rep and see if they help you out.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on May 26, 2020, 10:23:17 AM
for those of you that use a lot of apps, is 64 GB enough?
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on May 26, 2020, 06:10:47 PM
for those of you that use a lot of apps, is 64 GB enough?

I haven’t had to use more than 64GB much. I offload my images to cloud storage and I also delete text threads frequently. Most of the space on my phone has been eaten up by Spotify offline downloads.

yeah i don't plan on storing much video or photos on my phone. but i do plan on adding a bunch of apps that i couldn't before (FB, Twitter, snapchat, whatsapp, etc.)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: brawndolicious on May 26, 2020, 07:23:26 PM
guys, quickly! is this a good deal?

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/google-pixel-3a-64gb-unlocked-just-black/6347785.p?skuId=6347785

The price WITH activation of a new contract is pretty good for a Pixel 3a. So if you have a Verizon/ATT account or if you're willing to switch to Sprint as a new customer, then the discount seems pretty good.

But if you're on T-mobile or any MVNO, the price without the carrier discount is average. Is your current phone getting worn out and if so, what features/price are you looking for?
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on May 26, 2020, 08:17:57 PM
guys, quickly! is this a good deal?

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/google-pixel-3a-64gb-unlocked-just-black/6347785.p?skuId=6347785

The price WITH activation of a new contract is pretty good for a Pixel 3a. So if you have a Verizon/ATT account or if you're willing to switch to Sprint as a new customer, then the discount seems pretty good.

But if you're on T-mobile or any MVNO, the price without the carrier discount is average. Is your current phone getting worn out and if so, what features/price are you looking for?

yeah my phone is pretty old. i've had it for 3 years, but it was it was old even then (it's a samsung on5). still, it did me good because i mostly just used it to listen to podcasts on the way to work and browse the internet on the toilet. of course, i'd have liked to do more, but the ancient tech prevented me from doing such. i don't really game on it, so that's not much of an issue, but i would like to use way more apps like snapchat and fb and such. when i started off, my budget was going to be $150, but the pixel 3a's lookin' mighty fine...
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on May 26, 2020, 08:18:57 PM
welp, went ahead and bought it. no going back now

i'm the proud owner of a google pixel 3a :rock
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 26, 2020, 08:22:49 PM
Yeah, I just checked and I've used a little less than 56gb out of 256 on my OnePlus 7 pro that I've had for about a year now. 21 gb in pics/vids, 22 in apps, 12 system, and random other shit making up the rest. I obviously don't game much on my phone, tho.

I think if you get a Pixel tho, you get a pretty sweet amount of google drive back up space for photos and shit.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on May 26, 2020, 08:35:36 PM
Yeah, I just checked and I've used a little less than 56gb out of 256 on my OnePlus 7 pro that I've had for about a year now. 21 gb in pics/vids, 22 in apps, 12 system, and random other shit making up the rest. I obviously don't game much on my phone, tho.

I think if you get a Pixel tho, you get a pretty sweet amount of google drive back up space for photos and shit.

apparently the backup storage thing only works for standard pixels, not the 3a models  :'(

how many apps do you have, out of curiosity?
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 26, 2020, 08:39:41 PM
Like, 150ish? I really don't use all of them that much, one downside to having this much space is that you become lazy, just download shit cause it looks cool or whatever, never really fuck with it, and then forget about it.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on May 26, 2020, 08:42:44 PM
whoa 150?  :o

yeah...that's probably gonna be plenty for my needs. i was planning on adding like...20 AT BEST  :lol
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 26, 2020, 09:01:56 PM
I have like 30 apps and 25 of them are preinstalled Google shit :dead
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 26, 2020, 09:06:31 PM
Also I dunno what deals will be left but it's looking like I'll be picking up a 3a tomorrow too :dead

I think that makes at least four of us here (bork, cindi, now Oblivion and me.)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 26, 2020, 09:07:08 PM
Haha, I just don't give af, I'm lazy about that and also keeping a tidy email inbox. I'm coming up on almost 100k unread emails in my gmail account
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 26, 2020, 09:09:28 PM
Depending on life shit and what Google and Oneplus do with their "budget" offerings, around this time next year I'll either get the Oneplus lite/z/whatever they're calling it or the Pixel 4aXL on sale like Oblivion did before the new ones come out. More than $500 is not "budget" and while I love my Oneplus 7 pro, living at the top of the ecosystem just isn't worth it honestly.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: brawndolicious on May 26, 2020, 09:14:39 PM
Yeah the 3a specs are great for a modern phone and you're not going to notice any lag for at least 2-3 years (regardless of the application). The 64GB should be good for the life of the device unless you go crazy with game downloads and videos.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tripon on May 26, 2020, 09:19:59 PM
You should clean up space since it does affect the speed of the phone a bit.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: pilonv1 on May 26, 2020, 11:15:53 PM
for those of you that use a lot of apps, is 64 GB enough?

I've got 64 on my Pixel 2 and I'm constantly at 99% used because of 30+gb of photos. Barely anything for apps but like Tasty I've really only got about 30 apps and most of them are the pre-installed google things.

How is the 3a? I can feel certain things on my Pixel 2 starting to decline (like a lose USB C port) and have no intention of getting a flagship model.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: bork on May 27, 2020, 12:01:18 AM
Also I dunno what deals will be left but it's looking like I'll be picking up a 3a tomorrow too :dead

I think that makes at least four of us here (bork, cindi, now Oblivion and me.)

I have a 4XL, but if you mean Pixel in general, yessir. 

Basic-ass, bloat-free, no-bullshit Android OS
 :aah
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 27, 2020, 11:47:20 AM
Thanks to Google One, buying Pixel Buds + two Pixel 3a's = $73.70 in Google Store credit :leon
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 27, 2020, 11:56:21 AM
welp, went ahead and bought it. no going back now

i'm the proud owner of a google pixel 3a :rock

Me and baby sis too :rejoice
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on May 27, 2020, 12:35:49 PM
what phone did you have before, tasty?

for those of you that use a lot of apps, is 64 GB enough?



How is the 3a? I can feel certain things on my Pixel 2 starting to decline (like a lose USB C port) and have no intention of getting a flagship model.

i don't know if this is directed at me, but mine won't come in until the 2nd or 3rd (on account of buying it through the google store and not wanting to pay shipping  8) )

all the reviews i've read/watched say it's pretty excellent for a mid range phone (at least, the camera anyway). and since i'm coming off of 2015 smartphone tech, i'd be shocked if my upgrade wasn't light years ahead of what i'm used to. but i'm probably not the best person to ask   :P

that being said, i know it's a minor thing, but one issue i do have with the phone is that it has a yellow volume button. i ordered the white version and it seems to clash pretty badly, imo. small thing, i know, but it still bugs me.  :yuck
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 27, 2020, 01:05:37 PM
I've been slumming it with a Pixel 1 for almost a year since my Pixel 3 died last June (my fault) and I've been unable to afford the repairs.

Then the 3a deal hit and it's less money to buy it than repair my 3, so I just bought it. I'll repair my Pixel 3 later on, as it's always good to have another good cameraphone around for short film stuff.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 27, 2020, 01:45:12 PM
Quote
that being said, i know it's a minor thing, but one issue i do have with the phone is that it has a yellow volume button. i ordered the white version and it seems to clash pretty badly, imo. small thing, i know, but it still bugs me.  :yuck

Ugh I wish it was yellow. It's actually some kind of tacky yellowish neon green. Pure sunny yellow would have looked so much better. :-\

Ah well.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 27, 2020, 01:58:51 PM
Willingly purchasing white electronics

:jeanluc
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 27, 2020, 02:00:26 PM
Willingly purchasing white electronics

:jeanluc

We've been over this. I'm ride or die white electronics.

Gray/black are passe. I need some optimism in my life.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 27, 2020, 02:03:33 PM
Wait Oblivion yours is getting to you by the 3rd? Damn even if I rush shipped mine the earliest was the 9th. :'(

Ah well I've waited a year, can wait some more lol. Unless this is the two week period my phone chooses to die... But even then I can make phone calls on my laptop using the same number thanks to Google Voice, so there's really not too big a loss of productivity...
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 27, 2020, 02:06:42 PM
Listen, I have no problem with your gay lifestyle but white electronics are a bridge too far

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I specifically bought the OnePlus 7 pro because it came in electric blue, which is my favorite color (even my car is dark electric blue)

(https://hothardware.com/ContentImages/Article/2863/content/small_OnePlus-7-Pro-back-in-hand.jpg)
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Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 27, 2020, 02:17:44 PM
That does look really nice. :)

I dunno most of the Nexus line was only available in a single color (black/dark gray) so I think when they changed to Pixel and committed to at least doing black and white every year it got me really jazzed up, so I associate white more with premium and dark gray more with utilitarianism. (The marketing for the OG Pixel put the white model at the forefront.) But that's just me. :)

I'd love a mint green Pixel one of these days tbh.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on May 27, 2020, 02:28:13 PM
Willingly purchasing white electronics

:jeanluc

i've had nothing but black phones for like a decade, and while black is great, i just wanted to switch it up a bit. also, for whatever reason, google only gives 3 options for a 3a: black, white, and purple-ish (that's the actual color name  :doge ). plus google always seemed more of a white thing, than black to me.

Wait Oblivion yours is getting to you by the 3rd? Damn even if I rush shipped mine the earliest was the 9th. :'(

Ah well I've waited a year, can wait some more lol. Unless this is the two week period my phone chooses to die... But even then I can make phone calls on my laptop using the same number thanks to Google Voice, so there's really not too big a loss of productivity...

you paid for rush shipping and it's coming on the 9th? that's really weird. not sure what happened there. if that's rush shipping, how long would free shipping take? august?  :doge
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 27, 2020, 02:32:55 PM
Rush shipping was an option for $26 extra so I said no thanks, but it didn't really change much. June 9th to 11th vs. free shipping's June 11th to the 13th.

So it's possible you get yours 11 whole days earlier than me. :P Post pics!
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on May 27, 2020, 04:43:05 PM
oh most definitely. now that i'd actually be able to take decent pics to begin with :P


i am curious, though. seeing all these thousand dollar phones, what's the point of them? i could see people needing all that extra power for stuff like gaming, but plenty of my friends have those phones that don't care about games.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: brawndolicious on May 27, 2020, 04:59:52 PM
oh most definitely. now that i'd actually be able to take decent pics to begin with :P


i am curious, though. seeing all these thousand dollar phones, what's the point of them? i could see people needing all that extra power for stuff like gaming, but plenty of my friends have those phones that don't care about games.

Bragging rights. The performance difference from the RAM/processor wouldn't be noticeable even in most popular phone games. Think about it, would a developer want to make a game that only performs well on $1000+ phones only a few people would buy?

Those phones do often have bigger screens with higher resolution/refresh rate or they have multicamera modules that might take better pictures but you're getting into diminishing returns past a certain price point. Most midrange phones perform better than a flagship from a couple years prior, phone tech is very iterative at this point.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 27, 2020, 05:32:10 PM
My main issue with white is that it gets dirty so f'n easy, especially if it's something you handle all the f'n time. And I always, always put my phones in cases, and most of them are black, so, meh.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 27, 2020, 05:43:11 PM
Higher end phones are generally made from more durable materials (not plastic) and have additional features like wireless charging and waterproofing, but we're seeing those trickle down to lower end phones now. There's absolutely a larger/unreasonable margin on these higher end phones though, probably to subsidize the inexpensive ones/make up R&D costs.

Perception-of-performance-wise, the vast majority of users wouldn't notice a difference going from say, Pixel 3 to 3a. However over the long term (year+), I do think people get a general "feeling" that things are snappier and accomplish slightly less time using the premium model. Everyone has a different threshold for minimum performance though.

Cheaper phones also have worse performance degradation over the long-term than premium phones. The fact I could comfortably use a Pixel 1 after four years on the market is a small miracle. If there were a hypothetical Pixel 1a, I highly doubt it could have lasted as long.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 28, 2020, 06:51:42 PM
https://twitter.com/jamescham/status/1265512829806927873

:miyamoto
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: remy on May 28, 2020, 09:20:38 PM
https://twitter.com/jamescham/status/1265512829806927873

:miyamoto
bubububu my status symbol
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 28, 2020, 09:42:17 PM
My white 3a getting delivered May 29-Jun 2 :lawd

My sis's black 3a not shipped and won't be delivered until Jun 28-29 :thinking
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on May 28, 2020, 10:25:44 PM
i've been skeptical of talk/typing software forever, but i'm legit impressed at how good google's is.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on May 28, 2020, 10:48:33 PM
also, before i started looking for a new smartphone, i had no idea what the hell a bezel was, but now that every single reviewer on the planet mentioned it, i can't stop thinking about it :lol that's one of the unfortunate design flaws of the 3a. some of the lower end samsung phones look nicer than it, even. but on the plus side, they're much smaller than the ones i have on my current phone.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 29, 2020, 12:11:12 AM
I honestly don't really give TOO much of a shit about bezels (outside of the iphone se, which is just lol) but I have a phone with a motorized pop up selfie cam where the screen is like 96% or something stupid of the front of the phone, so if I do what I expect to do on my next phone and get either a Google or Oneplus budget entry, it will be weird going back to something with actual bezels for a bit.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 29, 2020, 09:58:42 AM
4a looked great with the hole punch camera, better than the 4 :shaq2

(https://i.imgur.com/JRbmhro.png)

Fucking marketing-related delays :shaq2
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: zomgee on May 29, 2020, 01:02:10 PM
I don't mind the lens square on my 4XL. I *do* miss the fingerprint scanner.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on May 29, 2020, 11:08:55 PM
oh another question. what's the downsides of using a phone that google will not provide any updates to?  is it like certain apps will stop working all of a sudden?
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 29, 2020, 11:34:16 PM
oh another question. what's the downsides of using a phone that google will not provide any updates to?  is it like certain apps will stop working all of a sudden?

Hmm no. In general you'll see something like... the next two years you won't get OS updates which is, fine. You don't need those features, anyways, y'know? The security updates are a bit more concerning to go without, but ehhhhh you're not the Prez, you'll probably be fine.

After two years, apps will start to not update on the Play Store. Google raises minimum SDK versions for apps uploaded every so often and generally, apps want to target new OS versions to get new/easier/QoL features. So after a year or two, your app updates will dry up. However, due to APIs being generally resilient, you'll still be able to use your existing apps for a while.

Let's say another year. We're three years out, I guess. After this point, you'll start getting annoying banners in apps if you haven't already. "Upgrade soon or lose access!" Etc. Then the dates listed will come to apps and voila, you won't be able to use such cloud-dependent apps anymore.

Assuming you haven't been hacked or phished or cracked either remotely or locally due to about a dozen zero-days getting released for your phone model over the last year, your existing apps still become an additional liability and attack surface. Like a sun collapsing in on itself to a dwarf star or black hole, such is the case of unsupported phones after ~3 years of additional use.

In my experience, anyways.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on May 29, 2020, 11:45:41 PM
Ah okay, good to know. thanks.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 30, 2020, 02:17:55 PM
My 3a came today and it's great :lawd

Got it fully setup, I'm so fucking glad Google Authenticator added QR-based import/export like two weeks ago lmao. Now switching/upgrading phones is as painless as it was before I hopped on the MFA bandwagon.

RIP my Pixel OG, with your cracked screen, dents, scrubbed paint, and poor battery... you served well until the end, with a serviceable screen and performance and still above-average picture-taking capabilities.

:salute
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 30, 2020, 06:55:02 PM
...you don't put your phones in cases, do you, you savage?

smh
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 30, 2020, 08:58:13 PM
I do. I've stuck with Moment photo cases since my Pixel 2 since around the Nexus 5X I stopped renting DSLRs for my short films and just used my phone instead.

Their anamorphic lens released in 2018 was the culmination of everything I wanted from them :delicious
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: thisismyusername on May 30, 2020, 09:35:10 PM
...you don't put your phones in cases, do you, you savage?

Some of us treat our shit with kid gloves. :trumps I'm sorry the rest of you have butter fingers to where you drop your phones from two stories every five minutes. :doge
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on May 30, 2020, 10:46:03 PM
...you don't put your phones in cases, do you, you savage?

smh

speaking of which, can i get some suggestions for good cases?  i didn't really care about that sort of thing before, but now that i have a phone that's more than fifty bux, i'd like to treat it with some respect.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tripon on May 30, 2020, 10:50:46 PM
...you don't put your phones in cases, do you, you savage?

smh

speaking of which, can i get some suggestions for good cases?  i didn't really care about that sort of thing before, but now that i have a phone that's more than fifty bux, i'd like to treat it with some respect.

I like Spigen and Encased.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=pixel+3a+case+Spigen&ref=nb_sb_noss_2

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=pixel+3a+case+encased&ref=nb_sb_noss_2
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 31, 2020, 12:53:33 AM
Can vouch for Spiegen, good cases

...you don't put your phones in cases, do you, you savage?

Some of us treat our shit with kid gloves. :trumps I'm sorry the rest of you have butter fingers to where you drop your phones from two stories every five minutes. :doge

Not all of us are getting that $600 per spawn to be able to be risky with our personal electronics, BREEDER
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 31, 2020, 02:12:56 PM
Not all of us are getting that $600 per spawn to be able to be risky with our personal electronics, BREEDER

(https://i.imgur.com/lqQE62J.gif)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on May 31, 2020, 02:16:24 PM
speaking of which, can i get some suggestions for good cases?  i didn't really care about that sort of thing before, but now that i have a phone that's more than fifty bux, i'd like to treat it with some respect.

What I'm rocking: shopmoment.com/shop/photo-case-pixel/pixel-3a-black (https://www.shopmoment.com/shop/photo-case-pixel/pixel-3a-black)

(https://i.imgur.com/hg1aXVP.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/f10w7Xs.jpg)

But ymmv on how much photography or amateur filmmaking you intend to do. :P
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on June 02, 2020, 03:23:00 PM
The phone just came in! :rock :rock :rock

i also ordered the case along with it :rock
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on June 02, 2020, 07:59:15 PM
holy shit, this thing is AMAZING

i haven't been this excited about a new phone is a long time. it is without a doubt, the most massive upgrade i've ever had. granted, sure my last phone was a certifiable antique, but still!

no joke, i've spent more time tinkering around with the settings on here in the last HOUR than i have in the past 3 YEARS. i didn't even bother to look into the wallpapers on my last phone. and it looks like google has some pretty fucking sweet ones.

the phone's running buttery smooth even with like 10 apps running in the background. it's like greased lightning compared to what i'm used to. kind of funny though cause i was originally worried if i'd have enough space, but i've already downloaded most of the apps i initially wanted and now i'm like 'shit...now what?" :lol

the build quality is actually quite nice too. i know it's polyeurathane (sp?), but it FEELS like a high end phone!

but yeah, i'm absolutely LOVING this device. finally, a phone worthy of my station  8)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: thisismyusername on June 02, 2020, 08:21:11 PM
Not all of us are getting that $600 per spawn to be able to be risky with our personal electronics, BREEDER

Get your history right, dude. I'm a homo. :doge

The fucking backup process on these phones is dumb, for real.

*Buy unlocked phone that should work with carrier after research, go in after back-up/restore through wifi*
"Oh, that's not supported on us (yet?), but we have a version of it (downclocked, I think. I need to look into the stats) that you can buy."
:| Ok, fine. I'll take the L on the buying the unlocked version and get this one. Fine. Give me it.
(Second time back-up restoring, after turning it back to factory/stock because of the fucking vendor needing to set up quickly to move SIM card)

I goddamn hate phones and phone tech. Why the fuck can't this be like a new PC where you just go "oh, migrate all my shit" and be done with it. >:|
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on June 02, 2020, 09:31:26 PM
i thought to myself "damn, this phone may even be faster than my laptop", then i thought about it, and it might not be an exaggeration, since they both have 4 gigs of RAM :lol
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on June 02, 2020, 09:33:12 PM
Not all of us are getting that $600 per spawn to be able to be risky with our personal electronics, BREEDER

Get your history right, dude. I'm a homo. :doge


wait you are? i thought you had a kid like a year or two ago?

if not...then who the hell am i thinking of?  :doge
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: naff on June 02, 2020, 09:36:29 PM
Not all of us are getting that $600 per spawn to be able to be risky with our personal electronics, BREEDER

Get your history right, dude. I'm a homo. :doge

 :lol

he just see the "kid gloves" analogy and think you literally used your kids gloves? wth. i need answers.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on June 02, 2020, 10:30:46 PM
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-android-tv-dongle-remote-ui/

(https://i.imgur.com/P1ZeOAp.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/7Q6xDzq.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/hHSAa8x.jpg)

Been rumblings of this for a while, basically a Chromecast Ultra successor that runs full Android TV and includes a remote instead of relying on the simpler Chromecast UI. Would bet it'll be marketed with Stadia too. Likely MSRP is $69.

Branding wise there's been talk that it'll be a Nest product, maybe "Nest Cast" or "Nest TV." And also also talk of rebranding Android TV as a whole (like how Android Wear became Wear OS), and just be "Google TV." Again. But hey it's actually moderately successful this time.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: thisismyusername on June 02, 2020, 10:38:52 PM
Not all of us are getting that $600 per spawn to be able to be risky with our personal electronics, BREEDER

Get your history right, dude. I'm a homo. :doge


wait you are? i thought you had a kid like a year or two ago?

:noooo

Quote
if not...then who the hell am i thinking of?  :doge

Probably Mac? Bork? Bork is having a kid soon, Mac has one on the way (or had it, though he's no where near home currently, and uses iPhones not Android) or maybe Am_I_Anonymous, who has vanished but had a kid on the way (... two years ago? I think?)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on June 02, 2020, 11:45:12 PM
yup you're right, it was mac i was thinking of.

just as well

:piss breeders :piss2
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: bork on June 02, 2020, 11:47:20 PM
Pixel fabric cases >>>>>>>>>>>> other shit

https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_3a_case_fabric

https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_4_case_fabric
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: pilonv1 on June 03, 2020, 12:22:02 AM
Got a fabric case on my Pixel 2, love it
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 03, 2020, 12:43:20 AM
Not all of us are getting that $600 per spawn to be able to be risky with our personal electronics, BREEDER

Get your history right, dude. I'm a homo. :doge

My bad, I mistook you for mac while drunk posting
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: thisismyusername on June 03, 2020, 12:44:23 AM
Not all of us are getting that $600 per spawn to be able to be risky with our personal electronics, BREEDER

Get your history right, dude. I'm a homo. :doge

My bad, I mistook you for mac while drunk posting

yup you're right, it was mac i was thinking of.

just as well

:piss breeders :piss2

:thinking
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on June 03, 2020, 10:37:35 PM
$9 is a pretty good price. The newer Nest Minis supposedly have much better sound but I've been pretty happy with the couple first gens I've had.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: remy on June 03, 2020, 10:46:58 PM
If you get two you can make up play in stereo, I think. For 10 bucks they're a pretty good speaker. Especially the new gen ones. I had a couple I got for free from googy and use em all the time for background music, google assistant shit and etc
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on June 03, 2020, 10:48:18 PM
I believe only the newer Nest Minis can be paired as stereo. :(

Edit- I'm wrong!

https://support.google.com/googlenest/answer/7559493?hl=en

Quote
Both devices need to be the same model (ex. two Nest Minis or two Home Minis), and located in the same room.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on June 06, 2020, 04:17:55 PM
damn, you were right tasty. the color of the power button is even uglier than i thought  :-X :yuck
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on June 09, 2020, 10:52:28 AM
ugh. my new case came in, and not gonna lie, i'm a bit disappointed. the covering LOOKS fine, but the edges feel rough. it was only $10 though, so i guess you get what you pay for? aw well  :'(
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on June 13, 2020, 03:03:18 PM
https://twitter.com/jon_prosser/status/1271856685943009281

Pixel 4a delayed to Oct.

Pixel 5 seemingly delayed from Oct to Jan 2021 too. :-\

IMO they should honestly release the flagship and "lite" models at the same time, so part of me is glad to see this, but man this is just not great news for the Pixel line (at a time when they could really use any good news.)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on June 15, 2020, 07:11:36 PM
RUH ROH

i thought i was imagining it, but unfortunately i think my phone may indeed have a battery problem. i left it charged at 100% when i went to sleep, and 8 hours later, it dropped all the way down to 89%.  :o

there weren't any apps running aside from twitter and youtube. at least, as far as i know. unless there's other apps taking up a shitload of energy that i'm not aware of. i really don't want to have to deal with a replacement or have them fix it. UGH
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on June 15, 2020, 07:18:30 PM
100-89 overnight seems kinda normal to me tbh... especially if you have the screen set to always-on, and are running intensive apps like... YouTube...
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on June 15, 2020, 07:31:13 PM
100-89 overnight seems kinda normal to me tbh... especially if you have the screen set to always-on, and are running intensive apps like... YouTube...

are you sure? my old phone had (to its credit) decent battery life, and it would barely budge with those programs on (being active in the background, not actually using). and this phone is supposed to have an even better life, isn't it?

edit: looks like it's 2,666 vs. 3,000. so maybe not as wide a difference as i thought. still, i feel like it's not right..
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on June 15, 2020, 07:33:27 PM
By "overnight" you mean like 8 hours right?

11% over 8 hours means the total standby battery life is like ~72 hours. Seems pretty normal to me...
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on June 15, 2020, 07:41:20 PM
yeah i meant 8 hours.

maybe you're right. maybe this thing isn't broken but just happens to take up more energy, despite the superior battery.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on June 15, 2020, 07:43:01 PM
If you flip the phone face down it'll probably conserve less battery too.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on June 17, 2020, 12:48:13 PM
https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2020/05/apple-to-host-virtual-worldwide-developers-conference-beginning-june-22/

I know Apple basically had an extra month, but this really make the Android 11 launch-slash-I/O replacement thing look like even more of a pathetic fart...
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: remy on June 17, 2020, 09:41:06 PM
Fell off my bike and slightly cracked my pixel 4 xl  :'( back glass has a small crack in top corner and front glass is chipped on the right hand side near where i swipe for the back gesture.

kind of impressed, as it didn't completely shatter, at least. I really ate shit on that fall. still #feelsbadman
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on June 21, 2020, 06:03:44 PM
Amazon has the black Pixel 3a for $280 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B07R7DY911/ref=as_li_ss_tl?f_new=true&f_primeEligible=true&linkCode=sl2&tag=toyst-20&linkId=ab0691ee4eddbc9e50b780e07c104d86&language=en_US), though it's backordered to July 11th at the moment.

Funny my dad said last week "I should probably upgrade really soon."

Happy father's day. :)

spoiler (click to show/hide)
That just makes my older sister and mom left to convert before total Pixel 3a saturation

(https://i.imgur.com/BFvKX96.jpg)
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Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: brawndolicious on June 21, 2020, 11:18:56 PM
Just got an LG G8 for $285 (w/tax) which is basically a Pixel 4 XL with worse camera and brand. Hopefully doesn't boot loop like past LG phones.

I really don't see any reason to spend a lot for a phone right now. It's clear manufacturers are in the middle of R&D for the next great leaps like flexible screens that don't break easily or under screen selfie cameras. Most 2020 phones just updated themselves with a pinhole camera + 12GB RAM and called it a day.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tripon on August 01, 2020, 11:36:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAy9EuBRCpg
https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/1/21350893/google-pixel-4a-launch-iphone-se
The rumor is that Pixel 4a at $349.

Still waiting for a good and inexpensive 5G phone, so I might wait for the Pixel 5 or something similar.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: G The Resurrected on August 01, 2020, 11:59:36 PM
The rumor is that Pixel 4a at $349.

Still waiting for a good and inexpensive 5G phone, so I might wait for the Pixel 5 or something similar.

You'll be waiting forever. There is a very good chance this is the last Pixel phone for some period of time.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on August 02, 2020, 04:39:34 AM
Just got an LG G8 for $285 (w/tax) which is basically a Pixel 4 XL with worse camera and brand. Hopefully doesn't boot loop like past LG phones.

I really don't see any reason to spend a lot for a phone right now. It's clear manufacturers are in the middle of R&D for the next great leaps like flexible screens that don't break easily or under screen selfie cameras. Most 2020 phones just updated themselves with a pinhole camera + 12GB RAM and called it a day.

that thing has TWO screens?  :o
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 02, 2020, 06:12:54 AM
Depending on where you are, oneplus nord is 5G and 399 euros or the equivalent
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: pilonv1 on August 02, 2020, 07:10:57 AM
USB C port on my Pixel 2 is loose, headphone to USB C always drops out. Lint seems to be a common cause but I cant see anything in there and trying to get stuff out with a plastic dental pick has proved fruitless.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: VomKriege on August 02, 2020, 07:32:34 AM
USB C port on my Pixel 2 is loose, headphone to USB C always drops out. Lint seems to be a common cause but I cant see anything in there and trying to get stuff out with a plastic dental pick has proved fruitless.

The best is probably a long, thin pincer (a very tall tweezers, if I believe the translation from Google). That's what the guy who cleaned my jack port used.

The USB-C might just be crooked though. But check for lint indeed.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: brawndolicious on August 02, 2020, 01:37:06 PM
Just got an LG G8 for $285 (w/tax) which is basically a Pixel 4 XL with worse camera and brand. Hopefully doesn't boot loop like past LG phones.

I really don't see any reason to spend a lot for a phone right now. It's clear manufacturers are in the middle of R&D for the next great leaps like flexible screens that don't break easily or under screen selfie cameras. Most 2020 phones just updated themselves with a pinhole camera + 12GB RAM and called it a day.

that thing has TWO screens?  :o

No that's the LG G8X which is basically the same phone but it has a case combination with the second screen. It's not really for me.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on August 02, 2020, 10:11:41 PM
Just got an LG G8 for $285 (w/tax) which is basically a Pixel 4 XL with worse camera and brand. Hopefully doesn't boot loop like past LG phones.

I really don't see any reason to spend a lot for a phone right now. It's clear manufacturers are in the middle of R&D for the next great leaps like flexible screens that don't break easily or under screen selfie cameras. Most 2020 phones just updated themselves with a pinhole camera + 12GB RAM and called it a day.

that thing has TWO screens?  :o

No that's the LG G8X which is basically the same phone but it has a case combination with the second screen. It's not really for me.

okay good, cause that thing seems dumb ass hell  :dice
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tripon on August 03, 2020, 01:11:27 PM
https://twitter.com/verge/status/1290301479077568513

Pixel 4a comes out soon, Pixel 5 and pixel 4a 5g in the fall.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tripon on August 03, 2020, 07:52:51 PM
The rumor is that Pixel 4a at $349.

Still waiting for a good and inexpensive 5G phone, so I might wait for the Pixel 5 or something similar.

You'll be waiting forever. There is a very good chance this is the last Pixel phone for some period of time.

Yeah, the Pixel 5 and Pixel 4a 5G did get announced, but I think they're going to get delayed to next year, personally. Supply lines from China is still messed up.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on August 04, 2020, 02:58:20 AM
damn, the pixel 4a is $350. that's just $70 more than what i paid for the 3a, and with it you get an additional 2 gb of RAM and 64 gb of space. maybe i should have waited a few more months...

spoiler (click to show/hide)
...on the other hand, my phone's running totally fine right now performance-wise and i've still got 80% space left, so... :yeshrug
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Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: pilonv1 on August 04, 2020, 07:53:30 AM
4a sounds like exactly what I want when my Pixel 2 dies.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 04, 2020, 11:29:52 AM
I'm gonna probably get whatever the US version of the Oneplus nord is. I honestly don't use my camera all that much and I'm so used to a 90hz refresh rate that going back would make me sad, plus Oxygen OS is imo the best Android skin out there
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Forgotten A. Turnbuckle on August 04, 2020, 01:01:27 PM
I don't know if this is a good thread to post in but what the hell.
Our kid is starting kindergarten in a few weeks and his school will all be virtual learning.

I've been getting a lot of suggestions to buy a Chromebook but it seems like there are a lot of options.  I don't want to get one that's so slow he gets frustrated using it (I don't even know if they sell them like that) but I don't have a ton of money to work with either.  So, like, if there's some $700-1000+ model I gotta pass on that but I don't want to throw $200-300 on something that's just going to be junk.

I'm not sure if this is going to be a laptop he'll be using for a year or for a few years.   

Really I'm pretty just dumb about the whole platform and hoping someone else can just tell me what to buy and make it simple for me.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tripon on August 04, 2020, 01:49:46 PM
I don't know if this is a good thread to post in but what the hell.
Our kid is starting kindergarten in a few weeks and his school will all be virtual learning.

I've been getting a lot of suggestions to buy a Chromebook but it seems like there are a lot of options.  I don't want to get one that's so slow he gets frustrated using it (I don't even know if they sell them like that) but I don't have a ton of money to work with either.  So, like, if there's some $700-1000+ model I gotta pass on that but I don't want to throw $200-300 on something that's just going to be junk.

I'm not sure if this is going to be a laptop he'll be using for a year or for a few years.   

Really I'm pretty just dumb about the whole platform and hoping someone else can just tell me what to buy and make it simple for me.


Most school districts should offer a chromebook or iPad or whatever they're offically using for school curriculum to each student because they're using previous technology grants or recent CARES money to buy it.

If you still want to buy a personal chromebook for him, there's a couple I personally like. Since they're chromebooks, they don't have or need a lot of on board storage space, and it needs an internet connection to work. Your school will likely provide a school email/profile for him to log in with. So make sure you have it written down somewhere because your son/daughter will likely forget.

My school bought HP chromebooks, and they're built solidly, and the keyboard was good to type on.

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Lightweight-Chromebook-Intel-Dual-Core-Processor/dp/B07L52DDDQ/ref=sr_1_9?dchild=1&keywords=Chromebook&qid=1596562566&sr=8-9

I'm also recommend Asus chromebooks. Here's a 2018 version that is $126 used.

https://www.amazon.com/Chromebook-C523NA-DH02-NanoEdge-Display-Processor/dp/B07HRZM2V4/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=Chromebook%2Basus&qid=1596562962&sr=8-5&th=1

Personally, I'd buy a refurbished one around $200 and only expect your son to use for 2/3 years before he needs to upgrade. If you want to buy new, then I'd buy it from say, Costco instead of amazon or best buy due to Costco's better return policy vs. Amazon/Best Buy even if it's more expensive.

Costco has this HP touchscreen chromebook for $400. Probably more than you want to pay, but comes with a 2 year warranty from Costco, and with Costco's liberal return policy, you can probably return it years afterwards.

https://www.costco.com/hp-14%22-touchscreen-2-in-1-chromebook---intel-pentium-silver---1080p.product.100511759.html
 

Edit: It's important to get something that is somewhat rugged, your son will drop the laptop more than once.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Forgotten A. Turnbuckle on August 05, 2020, 08:27:10 AM
I don't know if this is a good thread to post in but what the hell.
Our kid is starting kindergarten in a few weeks and his school will all be virtual learning.

I've been getting a lot of suggestions to buy a Chromebook but it seems like there are a lot of options.  I don't want to get one that's so slow he gets frustrated using it (I don't even know if they sell them like that) but I don't have a ton of money to work with either.  So, like, if there's some $700-1000+ model I gotta pass on that but I don't want to throw $200-300 on something that's just going to be junk.

I'm not sure if this is going to be a laptop he'll be using for a year or for a few years.   

Really I'm pretty just dumb about the whole platform and hoping someone else can just tell me what to buy and make it simple for me.


Most school districts should offer a chromebook or iPad or whatever they're offically using for school curriculum to each student because they're using previous technology grants or recent CARES money to buy it.

If you still want to buy a personal chromebook for him, there's a couple I personally like. Since they're chromebooks, they don't have or need a lot of on board storage space, and it needs an internet connection to work. Your school will likely provide a school email/profile for him to log in with. So make sure you have it written down somewhere because your son/daughter will likely forget.

My school bought HP chromebooks, and they're built solidly, and the keyboard was good to type on.

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Lightweight-Chromebook-Intel-Dual-Core-Processor/dp/B07L52DDDQ/ref=sr_1_9?dchild=1&keywords=Chromebook&qid=1596562566&sr=8-9

I'm also recommend Asus chromebooks. Here's a 2018 version that is $126 used.

https://www.amazon.com/Chromebook-C523NA-DH02-NanoEdge-Display-Processor/dp/B07HRZM2V4/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=Chromebook%2Basus&qid=1596562962&sr=8-5&th=1

Personally, I'd buy a refurbished one around $200 and only expect your son to use for 2/3 years before he needs to upgrade. If you want to buy new, then I'd buy it from say, Costco instead of amazon or best buy due to Costco's better return policy vs. Amazon/Best Buy even if it's more expensive.

Costco has this HP touchscreen chromebook for $400. Probably more than you want to pay, but comes with a 2 year warranty from Costco, and with Costco's liberal return policy, you can probably return it years afterwards.

https://www.costco.com/hp-14%22-touchscreen-2-in-1-chromebook---intel-pentium-silver---1080p.product.100511759.html
 

Edit: It's important to get something that is somewhat rugged, your son will drop the laptop more than once.

Thanks for all of this information.  By the time I got to click on the links 2/3 were dead and the last one (the first HP one you posted) is basically about $100 more than it was a year ago.  This is turning into a toilet paper & Ring Fit challenge.  $400 isn't too much but it's hard to tell what's price gouged and what's a real reflection of value. 

I have no problems buying used, but nearly every place I look right now has used prices higher than retail prices from months ago (at least according to camelcamelcamel.)

I feel I have a good starting point for what to look for based on the info you provided though and I appreciate the thorough reply.  :hump :hump
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tripon on August 12, 2020, 10:17:20 PM
So the rumor is that the Pixel 4a 5G is going to have a larger screen and the same chipset as the Pixel 5, for $500. Makes me wonder if the Pixel 5 is going to be at least $600.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 13, 2020, 07:27:51 AM
...looks like I'm probably gonna end up coming back to Google devices. ONEPLUS PLZ NO WHAT IS YOU DOIN

https://9to5google.com/2020/08/12/oxygenos-11-hands-on-no-longer-the-cleanest-android-skin-video/

Quote
They say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and if Samsung has paid attention, they could feel particularly aggrieved that OnePlus has taken so many visual cues from the One UI skin. There is no denying the similarities here, although it’s hard to really be too annoyed at some of the changes made here — unless you live for the “clean” experience that OxygenOS has become known for in recent years.

I DO IN FACT LIVE FOR THAT CLEAN, NEAR STOCK ANDROID EXPERIENCE, 9TO5GOOGLE

...how much am I gonna have to shell out for a fucking google phone with a 90hz refresh rate tho?
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on August 21, 2020, 09:40:52 PM
not a huge thing in the grand scheme of things, but i find it really annoying when i plug in the charger and the screen doesn't light up. i mean, the phone makes a noise indicating it's connected, but it just doesn't seem....right  :doge
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: T-Short on August 22, 2020, 07:04:30 AM
...looks like I'm probably gonna end up coming back to Google devices. ONEPLUS PLZ NO WHAT IS YOU DOIN

https://9to5google.com/2020/08/12/oxygenos-11-hands-on-no-longer-the-cleanest-android-skin-video/

Quote
They say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and if Samsung has paid attention, they could feel particularly aggrieved that OnePlus has taken so many visual cues from the One UI skin. There is no denying the similarities here, although it’s hard to really be too annoyed at some of the changes made here — unless you live for the “clean” experience that OxygenOS has become known for in recent years.

I DO IN FACT LIVE FOR THAT CLEAN, NEAR STOCK ANDROID EXPERIENCE, 9TO5GOOGLE

...how much am I gonna have to shell out for a fucking google phone with a 90hz refresh rate tho?

Hey nice, this site picked up the press release I wrote. Thanks for the tip  :heart

https://9to5google.com/2020/07/24/android-automotive-apps-polestar-2/ (https://9to5google.com/2020/07/24/android-automotive-apps-polestar-2/)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tripon on August 22, 2020, 11:45:00 AM
...looks like I'm probably gonna end up coming back to Google devices. ONEPLUS PLZ NO WHAT IS YOU DOIN

https://9to5google.com/2020/08/12/oxygenos-11-hands-on-no-longer-the-cleanest-android-skin-video/

Quote
They say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and if Samsung has paid attention, they could feel particularly aggrieved that OnePlus has taken so many visual cues from the One UI skin. There is no denying the similarities here, although it’s hard to really be too annoyed at some of the changes made here — unless you live for the “clean” experience that OxygenOS has become known for in recent years.

I DO IN FACT LIVE FOR THAT CLEAN, NEAR STOCK ANDROID EXPERIENCE, 9TO5GOOGLE

...how much am I gonna have to shell out for a fucking google phone with a 90hz refresh rate tho?

Pixel 5 is rumored to be 90 hz. So uh, $600-700
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Oblivion on August 30, 2020, 12:21:02 AM
i've had my phone since june but today was the first time i got a chance to properly use the famous pixel camera.  :hyper

i took these at a nice little park i discovered today:

(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/118474804_5255911354434889_5006425464502843433_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=2Fu8Qj0vvTgAX8NiLtL&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&oh=6d0fcf0192d952e83c5307452e948fdf&oe=5F701A81)

(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/118268529_5255911484434876_5959075359558562249_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=gtlXhqEV93cAX_2iJdw&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&oh=1896e18807220da00a6cad091a312863&oe=5F70823B)

(https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/118272328_5255911701101521_7926412349412753111_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=UWEeSRcuPK4AX_75U7x&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-2.xx&oh=ae471ac31b4717279f16fccabd61f639&oe=5F70BE1E)

admittedly, a little anticlimactic after all this time. and sure, it's not yosemite, but i still like it.  :-[

the only thing though, i think the first pic is excellent in terms of color and vibrancy. i don't know what happened to the other two that made them look washed out. still, i mostly like what i see.


edit: i took those images off of FB. here's an uncompressed image:

(https://i.imgur.com/z5I4Pbw.jpg)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tripon on September 14, 2020, 02:00:32 PM
https://www.theverge.com/2020/9/14/21436388/google-pixel-5-chromecast-speaker-launch-september-30th
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Beezy on October 07, 2020, 05:10:35 PM
A bunch of new Google products are launching and Tasty's nowhere to be found. What the hell :maf

I've been using a Pixel 2 XL since launch, so I plan on upgrading to the Pixel 5 around Black Friday if reviews are good.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on November 19, 2020, 04:16:22 PM
https://blog.google/products/messages/helping-you-connect-around-world-messages/

RCS is now global in Google Messages and they're bringing end-to-end encryption to everyone soon as well. These are both huge improvements over the default texting experience for North Americans in particular. Really excited about this, and I decided whenever E2E hits stable (it's in beta right now), I'll try switching from my carrier + Google Voice to straight Google Fi + Google Messages (RCS.) Seems to be that's where all the development and investment is happening. It's taken years for Google to get RCS up to snuff after flailing with Hangouts and Allo, but the hard work is finally paying off.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on November 19, 2020, 04:17:40 PM
Also, Black Friday deals:

https://9to5google.com/2020/11/16/google-store-black-friday-2020/

$150 for a Home Max is probably the best deal (literally 50% off), especially if it gets the same functionality as the Nest Audio + new Chromecast, where it can be used as the audio output.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: team filler on November 19, 2020, 04:55:52 PM
i've had my phone since june but today was the first time i got a chance to properly use the famous pixel camera.  :hyper

i took these at a nice little park i discovered today:

(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/118474804_5255911354434889_5006425464502843433_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=2Fu8Qj0vvTgAX8NiLtL&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&oh=6d0fcf0192d952e83c5307452e948fdf&oe=5F701A81)

(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/118268529_5255911484434876_5959075359558562249_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=gtlXhqEV93cAX_2iJdw&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&oh=1896e18807220da00a6cad091a312863&oe=5F70823B)

(https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/118272328_5255911701101521_7926412349412753111_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=UWEeSRcuPK4AX_75U7x&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-2.xx&oh=ae471ac31b4717279f16fccabd61f639&oe=5F70BE1E)

admittedly, a little anticlimactic after all this time. and sure, it's not yosemite, but i still like it.  :-[

the only thing though, i think the first pic is excellent in terms of color and vibrancy. i don't know what happened to the other two that made them look washed out. still, i mostly like what i see.


edit: i took those images off of FB. here's an uncompressed image:

(https://i.imgur.com/z5I4Pbw.jpg)
send nudes bb :-[
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: bork on November 22, 2020, 09:34:03 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.techradar.com/amp/news/google-almost-made-me-change-my-mind-about-using-a-chromebook-for-business-except-for-one-thing

Saw this yesterday and meant to check to see if I could comment, but now the page appears to have been removed and redirects to https://www.techradar.com/news/best-chromebook instead.  The above still works. Edit- link is gone.  He was complaining about not having a Caps lock key with Chrome OS keyboards- maybe check to see if you can remap keys first?  Embarrassing.
:neogaf
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on November 22, 2020, 11:03:41 AM
:lol People showing their asses never gets old.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Beezy on December 01, 2020, 09:50:54 PM
Tasty, thoughts on the Pixel 5? I kinda wanna hold out until the 5a for a better price since my Pixel 2 still works despite a partially shattered screen. Or maybe even wait until the 6 in hopes that Google finally uses a better camera sensor now that just about everyone has caught up/surpassed them.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on December 01, 2020, 10:08:32 PM
My friend is a Pixel fan but is also their biggest critic when they fuck up (having returned multiple models over even the slightest defects), and he is big on the Pixel 5 right now.

The 5a would likely be May, you'll need to decide if waiting until then is worth it. You'll also be ditching wireless charging and waterproofing for sure, to save maybe ~$200.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: remy on December 01, 2020, 11:35:09 PM
I want to get a pixel 5 for my girlfriend for christmas but it's just a littttttle out of my pricerange for a random gift for her. wish I wasn't such a brokeass tbh  :(
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tripon on December 07, 2020, 10:25:51 PM
Wasn't going to switch to from an Essential Phone until I get a cheaper 5G phone, but my brother and I went in a phone deal for a One Plush 8 Pro for $799, and pick up the One Plus 7T for $1 more. So I chipped in $170 for the 7T part of the deal.

Higher refresh screen is a game changer, and the battery seems better than what the Essential Phone was. Still no headphone jack...
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: pilonv1 on December 08, 2020, 04:54:59 AM
Got my last security update on my Pixel 2 today :fbm
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Crash Dummy on December 08, 2020, 08:47:47 AM
i know that feel, my 2013 macbook is not getting big sur  :'(
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on December 08, 2020, 09:18:23 AM
Got my last security update on my Pixel 2 today :fbm

Try rocking a Pixel 1 until last May :fbm

(It was a temporary replacement phone to be fair, it just ended up being for a full year. :doge)
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Tasty on December 16, 2020, 12:29:11 PM
The Apple TV app is on its way to Chromecast with Google TV (https://blog.google/products/google-tv/apple-tv/)

And just like that, the new Chromecast wins the dongle wars.

Hilariously, Roku's still in a dick measuring contest with HBO Max going into the holiday season and WW84.

Edit- I stand corrected: https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/16/21272058/hbo-max-roku-watch-wonder-woman-1984-movies-amazon-fire-stream-comcast-warnermedia
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: bork on December 29, 2020, 04:13:28 PM
My Chromebook Duet normally only has a max output of 1080P 30hz- sucks since some displays won't accept that signal and it has to be dropped down to 720P to work.

This has been solved with a displaylink adapter.  1080P 60hz now possible.
:rejoice
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on October 19, 2021, 04:14:09 PM
I'm coming home rex!

Pixel 6 coral baby
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: bork on October 19, 2021, 04:31:47 PM
Wife got a Pixel 6 with double the storage.  I ended up with a Pro after flip flopping a bit.  The regular model seems like a much better deal, but they're offering me a bit more for my Pixel 4 XL for the pro model and with the trade in it really isn't much of a difference price wise.  So going with a white 256 GB model. Interestingly checking the store I was able to get a Pro on some attempts and at others it would say it was sold out. I don't know if people are flip-flopping like I am and canceling or getting their orders canceled or what.
 
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on October 19, 2021, 04:40:54 PM
My order just got cancelled.

This is what Chappelle must fee like.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: bork on October 30, 2021, 06:44:14 PM
Wife's Pixel 6 came in.  It's exactly the same size as the Pixel 4 XL.  She got the "Sorta Seafoam" color, which looks pretty green in photos online, but instead it's more white for the most part.

:confused
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: bork on November 02, 2021, 02:11:50 PM
Pixel 6 Pro- This is the slipperiest phone I have ever held, what the hell were they thinking?  I set it down on the box to transfer data and it started sliding downwards.  It slides when you hold it.  :lol  The Google-branded case for it helps, but it is also a bit slippery. 
:dead

This was a dumb decision on their part.  Should have stuck with the matte texture the previous phones had.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: bork on November 02, 2021, 08:21:56 PM
Also- do you want a glass screen protector?  Better not be replying on that fingerprint sensor unlock if you do! :awesome
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: DJ Bedroom on November 02, 2021, 10:04:29 PM
The fingerprint sensor is the only thing putting me off getting a Pro to replace my 4xl. People bagged on the 4's face unlock, but I've never had any issues with it. Hopefully they're able to patch it in
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: bork on November 02, 2021, 11:10:19 PM
The fingerprint sensor is the only thing putting me off getting a Pro to replace my 4xl. People bagged on the 4's face unlock, but I've never had any issues with it. Hopefully they're able to patch it in

Yeah- don't understand why this can't have both options.

I missed the fingerprint sensor when went from a Pixel 2 to a 4XL- on the back of the phone, that is.  Here I don't think I care as much and will probably just use an unlock code.  It's not a very fast sensor compared to other phones.  Now that I have been able to check out both models, I'd definitely just get a regular Pixel 6 over the Pro.  The extra stuff doesn't seem worth it, IMO.  I don't regret my purchase, but the Pro was not necessary.

Meanwhile, accessory sellers must be losing their minds right now with all the negative reviews for their products due to protectors interfering with the fingerprint sensor.
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: remy on November 02, 2021, 11:28:47 PM
The death of the back fingerprint sensor is the normies biggest crime. It already solved what in screen fingerprint sensors are meant to be solving. It was so good. People that didn't like it are fucking narcs

I almost ordered a 6 because my 4xl front camera stopped working for like 4 days. and not having selfie cam/face unlock was making me weirdly agitated.

It came back though, so I think I might keep using it until the wheels fall off
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: DJ Bedroom on November 03, 2021, 12:11:55 AM
Yeah, like I don't NEED a new phone, but Google is too fuckin smart and keeps feeding me reviews saying BEST ANDROID PHONE EVER and THIS PHONE GAVE ME THE GREATEST RIMJOB OF MY LIFE and I feel like I need to jump IN
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on November 03, 2021, 10:48:48 AM
Also- do you want a glass screen protector?  Better not be replying on that fingerprint sensor unlock if you do! :awesome

There's an option under display to make the sensor for sensitivity for screen protectors.

https://www.xda-developers.com/improve-fingerprint-scanner-of-pixel-6/
Title: Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
Post by: Fifstar on November 07, 2021, 07:00:01 AM
Love this phone especially coming from a cheap Xiaomi, but why does Google insist on keeping the day and date on the home screen even if you deativate the at a glance function. Super unnecessary, takes up space for apps and doesn't even seem to se be a purpose for Google like the also stupid fixed search bar does.