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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Ruzbeh on October 04, 2017, 02:18:21 PM

Title: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: Ruzbeh on October 04, 2017, 02:18:21 PM
AKA the thread no one asked for

downloading now https://elysium-project.org

will report back

https://www.reddit.com/r/wowservers/ is full of negative nancies so im guessing vanilla WoW actually isn't all that fun (shocking...)

but I'm not expecting that much fun... i just wanna revisit the old world, pre Cataclysm, before everything got absurdly easy and yes before you babies accuse me of being a noob FYI i was there at the american beta in 2004 and euro beta in 2005

so im expecting it'll get boring eventually

the question is how soon... stay tuned!
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 04, 2017, 02:19:50 PM
Amazing game.
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 04, 2017, 02:45:28 PM
probably the best gaming experience ever

nothing will ever come close to those first weeks and month

*thinks back fondly of rooting warriors with entangling roots before diminishing returs patch*
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: Valkyrie on October 04, 2017, 02:52:18 PM
Vanilla WoW is probably one of my favorite gaming memories.

Legion is good, but WotLK = fav expansion. :heartbeat
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: Positive Touch on October 04, 2017, 02:54:35 PM
so did the game originally have different maps / quests / classes that cataclysm changed? I never understood the difference between old wow and new wow.
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: Freyj on October 04, 2017, 06:30:51 PM
I leveled a Rogue through some of BWL when Rebirth was first up. I guess that server is dead now, but I don't know if I have it in me to level another 1x EXP 60 again. Vanilla is an incredible experience and holds my fondest gaming memories (I met my wife there), but every DPS class that isn't Rogue has annoying secondary / support functions that I'm just not interested in. Tranq shot isn't too bad for Hunters, but Mages and Warriors in particular are very irritating to play when you don't want to be support.

Needing to pay attention while leveling is one of the early WoW expansions' best aspects. You will die on many classes prior to obtaining certain abilities if you pull more than one mob at a time. Elites are (generally) not soloable. While I'm sure the #1 reason for pay to skip leveling microtransactions to exist is time, I'd argue that the next factor is how mindnumbingly boring it is now. 1-60 in Legion consists of literally 1-shotting most mobs.

On that note, keep in mind that Warriors will eventually be tank bitch Dufus. There's never enough of them until you're doing 40s and even then some of the weird ass encounters require 8 tanks.
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 05, 2017, 08:30:09 AM
wait what was i expecting, every dufus thread ends up with "blizz sucks"

l2p noob
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: demi on October 05, 2017, 08:45:23 AM
I'm not sure what he's trying to prove. That a developer took the "tedious bullshit" and made their game better?
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: demi on October 05, 2017, 10:32:53 AM
Which is more tedious, walking to your corpse or flossing your teeth?
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: Valkyrie on October 05, 2017, 10:38:04 AM
Which is more tedious, walking to your corpse or flossing your teeth?
:dead
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: Positive Touch on October 05, 2017, 12:38:31 PM
remember when mmos used to be HARDCORE*??



*filled with tedious bullshit to stretch out your subscription
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: Valkyrie on October 05, 2017, 01:20:36 PM
WoW is embarrassingly casual now, especially in terms of how fast the leveling has gotten (plus the fact that you can buy the 100 first levels). But I never raided much (only some of the old era content), and was always more into the chill exploration/question aspects of the game.

It has improved though, it's a very good game (loved Legion), and apparently the end game raid is still good too. So it fits for all. Easy to get a decent iLvl for mid-level raid and work your way up as usual. But it's pretty damn boring to play alone. I tried it, didn't really last long because my guild suddenly got all mad at each other for dumb shit so I left and didn't bother trying to find a new. But anyway, leveling is enjoyable and there are lotsa things to do. I still wanna go back but I don't really have anyone to play with.
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: Valkyrie on October 05, 2017, 02:11:38 PM
You're complaining too much. :doge
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: Nabbis on October 05, 2017, 03:30:38 PM
Wotlk was the golden age, before the dungeon finder patch. Vanilla was... well, i miss some of the novelty but most of the stuff i liked about it survived until Wotlk.

Legion fucking ruined my favorite classes. Rip locks and huntards.
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: benjipwns on October 05, 2017, 04:13:46 PM
this got loot boxes and card drops i can buy with real money or what?
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: benjipwns on October 05, 2017, 04:14:14 PM
also why it gotta be vanilla, this some kind of nazi thing?
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: Freyj on October 05, 2017, 04:46:46 PM
Burning Crusade is the sweet spot for me, but Ulduar is the single greatest raid they ever created.

I think WotLK has had good emulation and scripting for a while now, but there haven't been many good options for BC.
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: Valkyrie on October 05, 2017, 05:16:37 PM
Still waiting for Blizzard to say "It's just a prank, bro" regarding the MoP release.
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: Freyj on October 06, 2017, 12:22:51 AM
MoP was a surprisingly amazing expansion in a sea of mediocre, but Legion has been pretty good too.

And rotations were almost never as complex as they are now, were in MoP, etc. back in Vanilla - WotLK. Hell, Vanilla rotations are actual "2-3-4-2-3-4-2-3-4" rotations that will put you to sleep.
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: Freyj on October 06, 2017, 11:36:16 AM
Their problems with the talent trees were that people generally fell into predetermined mix max options, but I did like the flexibility they offered that are completely missing now. Things like Combat Daggers in late Vanilla for Rogues, Hemo spec, etc. just aren't part of the game anymore. There were some interesting specs you could mix together event if they weren't 100% maximum DPS.
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: Nabbis on October 06, 2017, 05:04:12 PM
MoP/panda haters :yuck

Having read a few chinese novels, Mop is garbage considering the source material. So much potential lost in terms of what you can actually do with Chinese and Asian mythology as well as cultural concepts.
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: etiolate on October 06, 2017, 07:40:35 PM
its just wow with the tedious bullshit added in, and the tedious shit just distracts you from how unfulfilling the core experience is to begin with. Having nostalgia for artificial time extenders is some real sad shit.
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: desert punk on October 06, 2017, 08:15:16 PM
MoP/panda haters :yuck

Having read a few chinese novels, Mop is garbage considering the source material. So much potential lost in terms of what you can actually do with Chinese and Asian mythology as well as cultural concepts.

That'd be too much to ask for anyway when it comes to Blizzard and their writing abilities, even if they were still on a level of say the late 90s and early 00s when they were actually able to write halfway decent stories :P

its just wow with the tedious bullshit added in, and the tedious shit just distracts you from how unfulfilling the core experience is to begin with. Having nostalgia for artificial time extenders is some real sad shit.

Why so angry? As long as he's having fun...
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: etiolate on October 08, 2017, 02:03:00 AM
MoP/panda haters :yuck

Having read a few chinese novels, Mop is garbage considering the source material. So much potential lost in terms of what you can actually do with Chinese and Asian mythology as well as cultural concepts.

That'd be too much to ask for anyway when it comes to Blizzard and their writing abilities, even if they were still on a level of say the late 90s and early 00s when they were actually able to write halfway decent stories :P

its just wow with the tedious bullshit added in, and the tedious shit just distracts you from how unfulfilling the core experience is to begin with. Having nostalgia for artificial time extenders is some real sad shit.

Why so angry? As long as he's having fun...

Where's the anger? Just describing the game.
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 09, 2017, 03:22:56 PM
Is it free?
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: Nabbis on October 09, 2017, 03:28:49 PM
Oh yeah, defensive stance. Now i have not heard that name in a long time...

At least you get to drown people by sheeping them in the water in private servers. God tier design.
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: Freyj on October 09, 2017, 04:09:05 PM
Is it free?

Depends on if you consider having your 1x leveled 60 with BWL gear deleted when Blizzard throws a C&D at the server "free".

I really wish Blizzard would just do time locked servers already.
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 09, 2017, 05:03:26 PM
I still have my discs. I assume I'd need to pay for playing time right? If so I'll pass. Been waiting for a f2p WoW...
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: eleuin on October 12, 2017, 12:28:14 AM
did you feel fulfilled at any point during this pointless endeavour
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: Positive Touch on October 12, 2017, 10:33:46 AM
there's ten million other f2p mmos you know
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: Nabbis on October 12, 2017, 10:37:30 AM
To this day i can't seem to find an mmo that i really like.
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: Rufus on October 12, 2017, 11:08:29 AM
That's because MMOs suck. :shh
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: eleuin on October 12, 2017, 07:33:10 PM
nobody asked, poor bitch
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: Rufus on October 12, 2017, 07:38:18 PM
Nostalgia is the real bitch.
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: Positive Touch on October 12, 2017, 08:24:50 PM
get a job and play ffxiv
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 13, 2017, 02:41:10 AM
3 reasons why vanilla WoW is remembered so fondly:

-Forced grouping and community > this has been 100% destroyed and will never come back thanks to QOL improvements like LFG buttons /cross server play, imho this is what made it an MMO, a breathing living world you played in, now its all anonymous shit
-First MMO experience for most
-Nostalgia
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: Nabbis on October 13, 2017, 11:36:50 AM
It was pretty technically advanced when it came out. Animations, graphics and physics were very good for a mmo in the early 2000s.
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: Freyj on October 14, 2017, 04:41:51 PM
High end FFXIV combat is considerably more complicated than WoW has pretty much ever been. There are only a few specs at specific points in time I can think of in WoW that were anything close to what XIV demands.

Mechanics are apples and oranges.
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: Positive Touch on October 14, 2017, 05:28:55 PM
get a job and play ffxiv

i already played FFXIV and its a pretty shallow game

i mean it's that when people talk about FFXIV it's mostly about player housing, the combat system and dungeons etc are just shallow and you get bored pretty easily with it

all i remember is that it's more relaxing to play than WoW but also more convoluted, confusing, and not particularly satisfying

certainly not worth a monthly fee

your mom bitch
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: etiolate on October 15, 2017, 01:24:12 AM
If you want a living, active open world then you should be playing Black Desert Online.

You need an up-to-date PC though.
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: nachobro on October 16, 2017, 05:23:33 PM
fwiw Black Desert is really fun, and I think GW2 is a dumb, shitty game
Title: Re: Dufus Plays: World of Warcraft Vanilla (private server)
Post by: Freyj on October 17, 2017, 12:56:32 AM
Nothing quite like private mmo server drama