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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Positive Touch on December 09, 2017, 01:06:37 PM

Title: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Positive Touch on December 09, 2017, 01:06:37 PM
"might as well give this a shot, maybe i'll actually enjoy the series this time"

*loads character creator

"O MY GOD YOU CAN CUSTOMIZE YOUR CAT HELPER AND EVEN CHANGE HIS OUTFITS IM BUYING THIS DAY ONE"
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: demi on December 09, 2017, 01:10:47 PM
Played for 5 minutes, still as clunky and obtuse as ever

Soul Sacrifice 2 please
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: HardcoreRetro on December 09, 2017, 02:11:20 PM
What did you expect? It's not gonna become the new DMC 3 all of a sudden.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Positive Touch on December 09, 2017, 02:17:40 PM
i wish it had dragon's dogma controls at least. it's the same damn company!
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Valkyrie on December 09, 2017, 02:39:24 PM
How bad is it?
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: thisismyusername on December 09, 2017, 02:45:27 PM
How bad is it?

Have you played the other (terrible) Monster Hunters? If yes: There's your answer. If not: Download PPSSPP and an iso of Monster Hunter 2 G or whatever it's called and then try five minutes of it and swear the series off.

What Andy-kun sees in it, I'll never know.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: paprikastaude on December 09, 2017, 04:00:42 PM
Don't have PSN, but I played a demo earlier this year.

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/c5fc0f4636fa8aec4fc261e4a46e2922/tenor.gif?itemid=9969911)

It was inside a Sony booth in which a huge line waited for the game and they couldn't convince anyone to play the 10+ stations of that pos Detroit instead.

Played for 5 minutes, still as clunky and obtuse as ever

Soul Sacrifice 2 please

lol Inafune will die by the side of Red Ash
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Tasty on December 09, 2017, 05:18:39 PM

What Andy-kun sees in it, I'll never know.

Well, it *was* good old arcadey mission-based fun, with a chess-like combat system that favored careful strategy.

The battle system in World is probably better but I'm wary that the open world shift will drain the arcadey-ness from things.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Tasty on December 09, 2017, 05:21:51 PM
Monster Hunter 2 G

This is like saying play Mario Kart SNES instead of MK8 for your first impression of the series and then writing the games off, lol. Don't play a game from two generations and a whole decade ago.

MH4 was a pretty amazing game. The verticality and removal of water combat were super welcome. Never played Generations/X though.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: archie4208 on December 09, 2017, 05:34:21 PM
As someone who played over 300 hours of Monster Hunter on a tiny ass 240p screen, this game is a godsend.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 09, 2017, 05:44:44 PM
Oh, this is a game I'd actually like to play unlike the 3DS-PSP trash
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Positive Touch on December 09, 2017, 05:51:09 PM
i tried playing freedom unite, which was an enhanced port of 2,but i could never figure out how to track the fucking monsters. world lets you highlight monster tracks and have a big glowy cloud guide you around, so i actually found the monster this time! me and my team beat the shit out of it and it was pretty fun despite still feeling very clunky. I'm interested enough to try out the full game now.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Tasty on December 09, 2017, 05:55:09 PM
You shoot paintballs at mon's to track em bro.

Though it's possible that the 2G era didn't have very good tutorials for stuff like that, lol.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Positive Touch on December 09, 2017, 07:13:29 PM
yeah looks amazing on my setup

fu had like five hours of tutorials and all of them were about the fucking item box. it was so annoying.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: eleuin on December 09, 2017, 07:51:07 PM
Excited to play a MH where the claw isn't necessary

Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 09, 2017, 07:59:13 PM
Are you seriously unable to party up in this shit? I have to read out a 15 character alphabet-only case sensitive password to my party every time?
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 09, 2017, 08:25:20 PM
It seemed pretty fun. Don't understand why people think MH is trash.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: paprikastaude on December 09, 2017, 08:59:26 PM
Are you seriously unable to party up in this shit? I have to read out a 15 character alphabet-only case sensitive password to my party every time?

the remnants of Nintendo exclusivity.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Positive Touch on December 09, 2017, 11:53:39 PM
uh what? i joined a party just fine


wait I think the job game thing was glitching so I created my own lobby and then people joined
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 10, 2017, 07:37:01 AM
uh what? i joined a party just fine


wait I think the job game thing was glitching so I created my own lobby and then people joined

Random people or your friends in a voice chat?
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Positive Touch on December 10, 2017, 08:54:24 AM
randos
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 10, 2017, 10:42:05 AM
Ok so not what I was talking about then.


Anyway I gave up on playing with my friends in my voice chat party and tried matchmaking and got an error code and tried joining based on a filtered search and got an error code


Ok I got one that worked. I started in a camp alone. You don't automatically start near each other? Pretty sure you pick your spawn point before you even initiate your search so there is no way to coordinate this with the people you match with? What is this game?

Are these randos even after the same target as me? That's also selected before you get to the matchmaking screen.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Let's Cyber on December 10, 2017, 11:25:47 AM
Do we know how the main game will work with co-op? If I can invite friends into my instance to tackle multiple missions at our leisure and just run around the world, I'd probably love this game. If it's only on a per-mission basis with timers and a lot of time stuck in menus to get people connected only to run a single mission, it kills a lot of my excitement.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 10, 2017, 12:04:08 PM
That's my question also.

After I completed the event, it asked me if I wanted to stick together. I said yes but it closed out anyway.

I don't think a join/invite party is too much to ask in 2017 but if I only have to read a janky password once per session that might be acceptable enough.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Corporal on December 10, 2017, 01:18:03 PM
Fifteen characters? Yo, don't blame that shit on Nintendo. That's excessive, even for them. :-\
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: bork on December 10, 2017, 02:43:49 PM
It seemed pretty fun. Don't understand why people think MH is trash.

Because
Played for 5 minutes, still as clunky and obtuse as ever

Soul Sacrifice 2 please

And that's how I felt about it...deleted it pretty quickly.  This is just not a series for me.
:idont
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Tasty on December 10, 2017, 03:11:32 PM
Don't you like Dynasty Warriors tho? Talk about clunky and obtuse lol.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: bork on December 10, 2017, 04:03:55 PM
Don't you like Dynasty Warriors tho? Talk about clunky and obtuse lol.

Dynasty Warriors is "obtuse?"  LOL.

Monster Hunter's clunky game play makes Dynasty Warriors' game play look buttery smooth in comparison.  :pimp

Also Toukiden >>>>>>>>>>> MonHun.  Everybody does it better than Capcom.
:trumps
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: demi on December 10, 2017, 04:20:01 PM
Why is the mission timed?

Why not just, gauge my level based on how long the mission takes period? Every game from 1996 did this. Remember Goldeneye cheats?

Hello?
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Corporal on December 10, 2017, 04:30:32 PM
Well, as a former MonHan fan, that clunky combat refers to methodical, QTE styled combat that's really more like a rhythm game with dinosaurs. It's one of the designs that's there intentionally, particularly with the bigger and more unwieldy weapons.

It's also one of the issues that keep many gamers away, as evidenced in this and many other threads. Those rather inflexible constraints are very unfun for a huge amount of gamers.

It's also why I'm so confused why Capcom tried this Hail Mary approach in the first place. The core gameplay has limited appeal, and they are tweaking it heavily this time around. On top of that, the platform change means we they have to take into account a certain fanbase shrinkage (like me, who cannot be bothered to buy any non-Nintendo pissbox). It's a huge and exceedingly pricey gamble to do all that and at the same time target three UHD platforms at once.

Oh well. Game still seems to be rather good though. I'm envious.

That T-Rex with the nose tumour is a stupid as fuck design, though. Yuck.


Edit: Demi, MonHan missions are always timed. It's MonHan. For all the changes they have applied, they still can't escape their core gameplay philosophy that constricts you like a corset. It's stifling, isn't it. Part of the appeal though.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 10, 2017, 04:48:30 PM
I'm ok with the gameplay. I like it. I just don't know why the multiplayer interface feels like Battle.net circa 1998.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Corporal on December 10, 2017, 05:41:20 PM
I'm ok with the gameplay. I like it. I just don't know why the multiplayer interface feels like Battle.net circa 1998.
We Nintendrones (and PSP stans) had to make do with much worse. Good to hear that the Multiplayer interface has at least evolved past the eighties. Progress is being made.

No, but seriously. On 3DS and prior you went to a dedicated online menu, scrolled through a list of available lobbies and entered one. Then you'd look at the mission board and select one of the currently active missions (preferably the one the others also had selected, as visible via a small floating con next to their name). ...Unless the team was already out on said mission. In which case you'd probably leave because you could do nothing but wait or bother the NPC vendors. If the peeps were in, you'd usually get your gear checked out by them and one out of ten times get kicked. Then you'd go to the dedicated starting point and indicate your readiness. The one who put out the quest would then push go and the group would do whatever. If it was a key quest required for story/unlock progression, only the quest giver would unlock the completion. So you'd wait your turn and grind the same mission a couple of times. If at any time an error occurred, you'd drop back outside the online menu.

All of that with a minimalistic chat interface. You can type freely in the newer iterations, but usually it's easier to use shortcuts. Or, well, anything outside the game. Like carrier pigeons.

It worked, but it was incredibly barebones.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: hungrynoob on December 10, 2017, 05:45:08 PM
I will see y'all in January when i give my life up for this game.

Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: bork on December 10, 2017, 06:08:58 PM
The stupidest thing of all is not also localizing the Switch version, the making statements that they don't have any Switch games to release.  Uh...?
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: paprikastaude on December 10, 2017, 06:30:22 PM
Making a Switch port fanboys could cry about was the mistake, but in reality no one but fanboys could've still wanted that game while next gen MH is on the horizon. I.e. the Switch one is just a map pack for a prior 3DS game that was already stale in itself.

But then again, the series, like Dragon Quest, is for many not about games they actually wanna play but instead console war material because of its sale power in Japan. It was hilarious when Vita didn't get MH and the bitterness that nintenyearolds currently demonstrate might even be sweeter.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: hungrynoob on December 10, 2017, 07:01:17 PM
oh hi spieler we used to hunt on mh3u together back in da day.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Corporal on December 10, 2017, 07:36:58 PM
the Switch one is just a map pack for a prior 3DS game that was already stale in itself.
If it was even that. It was a lazily up-rezzed port of an already existing game. And yes, not even a good one. 4U was great, X was OK, XX... Let's just say W looks worlds better. Heh.

I'd still have bought MHXX Switch if they had released it in the west with some random ass translation. I mean, it's freaking MonHan, even at (ugh) 30fps and rendered at 720p instead of 240p (yikes). A new handheld without MonHan is like a cup of tea without sugar. Something's missing.

Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: HardcoreRetro on December 11, 2017, 05:47:35 AM
Didn't the WiiU one run on an unlocked framerate that was around 40 fps average?

Switch version of Generations Ultimate or whatever should've been able to get close to 60 then.  Edit: Sounds like it's because of 3DS crossplay.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: bork on December 11, 2017, 08:16:54 AM
the Switch one is just a map pack for a prior 3DS game that was already stale in itself.
If it was even that. It was a lazily up-rezzed port of an already existing game.

So just like Ultra SF2 and Resident Evil Revelations?  :doge
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: paprikastaude on December 11, 2017, 03:23:42 PM
the Switch one is just a map pack for a prior 3DS game that was already stale in itself.
If it was even that. It was a lazily up-rezzed port of an already existing game.

So just like Ultra SF2 and Resident Evil Revelations?  :doge

I know switch owners must be thirsty which is why they celebrate all this old content, but catapulting a near-fullpriced ugly SF2 into the top of the charts was just embarrassing. I hear Revelations at least has motion controls like RE4 added in (and Revelations 2 is amazing, support that instead switch boys).
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Svejk on December 12, 2017, 07:00:58 AM
I played only 2 quests, but I enjoyed it.  The HUD and menus were a bit on the overwhelming side, but I'm still certainly considering it...  It just might not be a Day Oner...  Tell you what though.. I'm currently playing Horizon right now..  The gameplay between these two are like night and day.. MHW being the clunkiest shit ever compared to Alloy's nimbleness. 
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Himu on December 12, 2017, 09:25:23 AM
Here's some facts:

1. As an MonHun expert I know what I'm talking about.
2. I played 100 hours of MonHun 2 on my iphone using touch controls. Essentially, I have mastered Monster Hunter and its gameplay/controls because I'm not a shit gamer.
3. Haters of MonHun are scrubs.
4. These scrubs should stick to Souls games or w/e.

I have no idea why people think MH is clunky. And more often than not it means they've played it for maybe ten minutes.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Himu on December 12, 2017, 09:26:13 AM
I forgot another fact.

I will be dling the beta to see how it is so I can use my expert opinion to judge this.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: paprikastaude on December 12, 2017, 09:26:15 AM
You're not supposed to be nimble wielding a sword as large as yourself.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Himu on December 12, 2017, 09:31:32 AM
That might be the problem. I bet most who say it's clunky play great sword class. These dumbasses don't even experiment with classes. Again, they're dumbasses and why games are dumbed down turds now. Play long sword or something.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Himu on December 12, 2017, 09:34:34 AM
Also, open world monster hunter. I'm not sure how that'd work. Could work, could stink. Time will tell.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: demi on December 12, 2017, 09:41:13 AM
People who like Monster Hunter voted for Trump, nobody is perfect
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Positive Touch on December 12, 2017, 09:43:36 AM
it's clunky in that animations are slow and frequently non cancelable. it takes time to get used to.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Himu on December 12, 2017, 09:48:53 AM
So you mean by clunky each move is a....commitment and you can't button mash so you need to make each attack count.

 :ohhh

Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Himu on December 12, 2017, 09:54:07 AM
Combined with that and the fact that each monster has various hit spots (tail, torso, legs, arms, head) and a stamina system that depletes every time use an attack, perhaps maybe MH is a game where you're supposed to be precise as all possible using the least manner of resistance to study an opponents weak point without whiffing a large attack and getting owned for it? Perhaps this is not DMC/NG?

:ohhh
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: demi on December 12, 2017, 09:55:39 AM
Correct, one is fun, the other is not
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Himu on December 12, 2017, 09:57:09 AM
Nah. They both own.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: HardcoreRetro on December 12, 2017, 10:01:25 AM
Are you a fellow Monster Hunter elitist Cindi? *Starts sharpening his longsword* If you know what I mean. ;)
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Positive Touch on December 12, 2017, 10:02:44 AM
Combined with that and the fact that each monster has various hit spots (tail, torso, legs, arms, head) and a stamina system that depletes every time use an attack, perhaps maybe MH is a game where you're supposed to be precise as all possible using the least manner of resistance to study an opponents weak point without whiffing a large attack and getting owned for it? Perhaps this is not DMC/NG?

:ohhh

well no fucking shit. I'm saying there's a learning curve.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Himu on December 12, 2017, 10:03:22 AM
Are you a fellow Monster Hunter elitist Cindi? *Starts sharpening his longsword* If you know what I mean. ;)

Yes I am. Long sword is my weapon of choice.

I haven't played MH in a while though. I skipped 4 and X.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Corporal on December 12, 2017, 10:10:55 AM
It's a fucking rhythm game you scum-sucking heathens. You position yourself correctly so you have a chance to deliver a few well timed blows, then evade or reposition yourself once more, all with a very deliberate timing. Occasionally you have some QTEs where button mashing is required, but most of the time you really need to watch your button presses.

Also, Hammer all the way. At least in "old" MH. It's so fun landing the correct attack chains on the head of a monster to send it flying, stars spinning in their eyes.
(Only annoying if it's a raptor type enemy because their "dazed" animation loop has their head wildly wobble back and forth. Which not only looks physics-defyingly stupid, it also makes further concussion-causing love taps more likely to miss.)
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Corporal on December 12, 2017, 10:11:45 AM
Doubleposting, so why not dig out this ancient but nonetheless still amusing 4chan meme.
(https://abload.de/img/151211937771387sif.jpg)
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Himu on December 12, 2017, 10:15:34 AM
Hammer, huh? I can respect that. :obama
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: paprikastaude on December 12, 2017, 10:26:43 AM
I would have said that it's fantasy hunting sims, but then it kind of went off the rails with super jumps and aerial combat recently. Jumping styled GS in X was the best.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Himu on December 12, 2017, 10:27:51 AM
Doubleposting, so why not dig out this ancient but nonetheless still amusing 4chan meme.
(https://abload.de/img/151211937771387sif.jpg)

:lol

wtf the fuck is that image so small though? Is there an auto img resizer on this forum? wtf
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Akala on December 12, 2017, 10:38:00 AM
I tried it last night and kinda liked it.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Corporal on December 12, 2017, 11:06:15 AM
1. Yeah, we have glorious auto-resizing embedding tech on this here forum. :doge It's interesting how it works differently when you have a reply open (i.e. in the live thread preview area below).

2. Jumping styled ANYTHING in MHX was OP as fuck. You could roll into so many attacks, launch off them, and deliver a small but decent counter hit to the monster even with the supposedly slow and heavy weapons - while safely in the air, where barely any monster attacks reach. Flying monsters usually still have a tail or something similar hang down you you'll launch off to knock them out of the sky, which robbed them of much of their threat. Add the riding mechanism for even more risk-free damage. Felt unbalanced as fuck. Between that, the lack of 4U style story and wobbly 30fps, MHX ain't exactly my favourite.

3. I'm secretly a fan of MHTri underwater combat though. Sure, it was unwieldy and annoying and kinda barely fun, but it felt so very different while requiring an entire new set of skills. I know most people hated it though, and it's not like I can't understand their rage.

4. Sorry for all the derails and OT stuff. Please, more MHW impressions. Me, I still think the tracking/resource/etc glowing bug swarms are over the top. But that's just from watching some random streams.

Edit: 2.1. Plus, prowler mode was just unhinged. Unlimited utilities and basically invincible. LEL.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Himu on December 12, 2017, 12:03:22 PM
yeah a lot of that stuff looks cool but also looks to make you too agile to the point of becoming invincible. looks like it was done specifically to target those feggits who say MH is clunky or whatever
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Svejk on December 12, 2017, 12:10:12 PM
What I don't understand, is, like the Destiny 2 beta, why don't they allow the character creator?  Wouldn't they like to factor that in when gathering beta info?  Shit's pretty stupid.  Character creators are a key selling point for some. 
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 12, 2017, 12:10:14 PM
The fucking animation and attention to detail in this game is amazing.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: a slime appears on December 12, 2017, 02:39:58 PM
What a massive fucking improvement over the previous games.

I guess it helps the series was stuck in the handheld ghetto for so long, lol.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: hungrynoob on December 12, 2017, 05:32:01 PM
Im fine if you dont like MH, but the problem with the argument is that what a lot of people new coming to series have a strong disliking to a lot of repeated aspects, turn out to be what a lot of the people who do like the game, love about it. It's a catch 22. Even for me, when I first got the og monster hunter on ps2, it took me sometime getting into it, there is a steep learning curve. But when it clicks, it makes a lot of sense.

I missed the beta, I dont own a ps4, but will be buying a ps4 to play with irl mates. Im assuming y'all be playing on ps4 then?

I'm not going to lie.

I'm going to miss the charm of the mh of old.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Tasty on December 12, 2017, 06:51:27 PM
I play Great Sword so I understand the clunky complaints a little, even if they completely miss the mark on why it makes the game more fun, not less.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Switters on December 14, 2017, 09:28:55 AM
Where do I find the beta on PSN? I'm a plus member and I can't find it no where.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Positive Touch on December 14, 2017, 09:40:35 AM
beta is over now sorry
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Switters on December 14, 2017, 09:50:34 AM
 :snoop 
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: chronovore on December 14, 2017, 11:32:31 PM
Here's some facts:

1. As an MonHun expert I know what I'm talking about.
2. I played 100 hours of MonHun 2 on my iphone using touch controls. Essentially, I have mastered Monster Hunter and its gameplay/controls because I'm not a shit gamer.
3. Haters of MonHun are scrubs.
4. These scrubs should stick to Souls games or w/e.

I have no idea why people think MH is clunky. And more often than not it means they've played it for maybe ten minutes.
:expert

FWIW, I literally copy-pasted your own text after the colon for this emoticon.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: chronovore on December 15, 2017, 12:09:19 AM
Sorry, that was dickish.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Positive Touch on December 15, 2017, 08:27:09 AM
but also funny
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Himu on December 15, 2017, 09:36:06 AM
I do not give a shit and regret nothing
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Corporal on December 17, 2017, 07:25:02 PM
I do not give a shit and regret nothing
Words to live by. 8)
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: paprikastaude on December 17, 2017, 07:55:55 PM
Demo reupload Next beta on the 22nd, PS+ not needed.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Himu on December 19, 2017, 11:40:35 AM
Here's some facts:

1. As an MonHun expert I know what I'm talking about.
2. I played 100 hours of MonHun 2 on my iphone using touch controls. Essentially, I have mastered Monster Hunter and its gameplay/controls because I'm not a shit gamer.
3. Haters of MonHun are scrubs.
4. These scrubs should stick to Souls games or w/e.

I have no idea why people think MH is clunky. And more often than not it means they've played it for maybe ten minutes.
:expert

FWIW, I literally copy-pasted your own text after the colon for this emoticon.

Forgot about this because I was drunk the other night I think but this was a clear reference to Demi and him always calling himself a _______ expert. It was done tongue in cheek.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: thisismyusername on December 19, 2017, 11:59:58 AM
Quote from: Himu
I have no idea why people think MH is clunky.

The camera.
The controls.

Is it REALLY that hard to understand?

Note: Since the beta is not on PC (way to give Steam-ers confidence on the port not having a rootkit, Capcuck), I don't know if they have MASSIVELY improved it for western folks or not (since folks here seem to think that's the case) but I gave the series 2-3 tries on PSP (even rebuying the goddamn thing after selling it) and the two reasons above turned me off the series massively.

I'll stick with PSO/PSU/PSP.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Himu on December 19, 2017, 12:05:23 PM
Quote from: Himu
I have no idea why people think MH is clunky.

The camera.
The controls.

Is it REALLY that hard to understand?

Yup.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: hungrynoob on December 20, 2017, 07:21:49 AM
Quote from: Himu
I have no idea why people think MH is clunky.

The camera.
The controls.

Is it REALLY that hard to understand?

Note: Since the beta is not on PC (way to give Steam-ers confidence on the port not having a rootkit, Capcuck), I don't know if they have MASSIVELY improved it for western folks or not (since folks here seem to think that's the case) but I gave the series 2-3 tries on PSP (even rebuying the goddamn thing after selling it) and the two reasons above turned me off the series massively.

I'll stick with PSO/PSU/PSP.

I loved PSU, the combat was basic as fuck compared to monster hunter. I will agree that for handhelds, monster hunter camera is fucking ABYSMAL, which is weird for me, because back on ps2 even though there was 2 sticks, the 2nd stick was used for attacks and L1 was used for camera reset like on modern day handhelds. However, later games in series on console made the camera free-roaming with the second stick like any other game and it works well.

As for your gameplay complaints, git gud, seriously. The flow of gameplay is not clunky, ESPECIALLY compared to PSU, its slower (depending on which wep tbf) yes, but that isnt synonymous with clunky. Steep hill to climb, but if you didnt consistently get your ass kicked maybe youd like the game better. Iduno.  :teehee
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: paprikastaude on December 20, 2017, 07:59:41 AM
You can now focus the camera on the monster with a button press. Which is all you need practically.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: hungrynoob on December 20, 2017, 09:14:19 AM
You can now focus the camera on the monster with a button press. Which is all you need practically.

 :yuck
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: archie4208 on December 20, 2017, 11:16:46 AM
You could do that in MH4 and Gens.  ???
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Tasty on December 20, 2017, 11:21:30 AM
I think you could do that in 3U, too.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2017, 11:36:45 AM
Yeah it was a new feature in 3U called monster lock.

And idk. I've never had an issue with MH camera or controls. Like I said, I played the shit out of it with touch controls. To me it's fine.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: paprikastaude on December 20, 2017, 12:14:41 PM
I played Monster Hunter Tri with motion controls and d-pad camera because I didn't want to buy an extra controller  :yeshrug

I think you could do that in 3U, too.

The guy starting the point didn't play it since PSP.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Himu on December 23, 2017, 02:27:48 AM
This is me playing hard mode.

It doesn't have the whole fight because for whatever reason Sony won't upgrade gameplay share  footage length. It's near the beginning but a bit past the start of the fight.

https://youtu.be/aDJSTX3rukI

Impressions:

- it's monster hunter

- some weird control changes. I don't remember capture net being something you throw. I remember it being something you dig like floor traps. Could be wrong but that change cost me an early objective complete.

- there are more environmental traps but they seem so random. In this video you'll see me circling trees in the second area the monster goes to baiting it to break a tree. Breaking a tree makes the tree fall and then the monster gets caught in the branches. In this though nothing set that off even when the monster swung its head right into the trip. It just clipped, and it made no sense. So yeah, that's inconsistent or maybe I'm missing the right trigger.

- auto tracking the monster is a Monster Hunter sin. The appeal of MonHun is not only fighting the monster but literally HUNTING it. In this, they show a map and tell you the general vicinity where the monster is, and this feels like a sin because the game loop of MH is find monster, find a way to beat monster before time limit. If the monster runs off and can fly anywhere on the map, you have NO IDEA where the monster is on the map, and time is ticking. So you have manually tag it with paint so it'll drop paint on the ground so you can hunt it. Displaying a bunch of crap that makes it easier to find the monster is MonHun sacrilege. No Capcom!!! Don't appeal to people who like being told where to go in games. Those people are :trash :stop

- there are events like monsters fighting each other which gives you time to heal, lay traps, or kick its ass. Seems cool at the outset but when you replay the mission you realize how RANDOM it is. But the appeal of MH is not randomness, it is pre-planned strategy down to the last detail. There's a Wyvern or something that pops out and fucks my monster up near the end of the video that I have never seen before and it's just "WHAT".

- pretty graphics and nice aesthetic

- team long sword 4 lyfe

- apparently this is open world but really, it's just MonHun without screen transitions. So it's really the same shit.

I liked it a lot but some stuff is fucked up in an attempt to appeal to...whoever hasn't learned of MonHun and its steez yet that in some way detract from the traditional Monster Hunter experience. Than said, it's monster hunter, so it was still dope as all fuck.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: hungrynoob on December 23, 2017, 08:25:01 AM
auto tracking is really a non issue. I dont really see the appeal of hunting monsters of earlier games, unless youre still fresh to the series, because once you know quests its simply a case of muscle memory which, for all intensive purposes, is the same thing.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Positive Touch on December 23, 2017, 09:35:24 AM
auto tracking is why i like this better than the old monster hunters. it woulda been cool if they told you the general area or if there was clues to find, but instead it was just "here's a big map; run around til you find the boss." that shit was boring as hell.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: paprikastaude on December 23, 2017, 09:48:18 AM
Randomisation is good, so maybe it takes a little longer before the hunts start to feel mechanical and you seeing all the game's "strings".

Auto-tracking I assume will surely go away at high rank and I'll wait on how it's implemented in the final game. Maybe you still need to prepare the bugs first like paint balls. In the first trailer they would also highlight herbs and stuff, which is probably a good thing. I was getting sick of finding out which shitty plant texture had the items I needed (especially in tedious collecting quests).
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Corporal on December 23, 2017, 09:50:36 AM
What.

I love how the old MH games forced you to either occupy an item slot with a Psycho serum or similar, or had one Hunter waste their armour setup on an equivalent skill instead on something useful for combat.

Well, OK, most of the time you'd just jog through the map and then ping when you found a monster that had run away after the paintball had worn off. After all, the maps were rather small, all things considered. And frankly, Paint balls would not wear off usually.

But still. This was a thing. You could spend precious armour skill slots or items on this. And on a vastly embiggened next gen map without loading screens and hopefully more luxurious monster retreat routes, this would be a bit more useful even.

Having it handed to you on a silver platter seems so... unexciting. No need for a gunner to occasionally switch to paintball ammo. Or a SNS hunter to throw one. One less thing to worry about in the heat of a battle.

I liked that aspect.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: hungrynoob on December 23, 2017, 11:13:06 AM
I'm going to be a cunt and just say it, you've not played enough to get to a point where everything you just said becomes completely irrelevant. Maybe final release wont be auto track as spieler suggested, and will cater to people who, like yourselves, enjoy the actual hunting part. However, in games old. The only time not using a paintball became a pain in the arse was if everyone in-quest completely dropped the ball and stopped paying attention, and even that was rare af.

I see MH as basically like instances, where all the focus is on the action combat and loot. The whole hunting aspect means nothing to me. I just like bouncing around the map in a fight because it keeps it fresh in a sense.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Positive Touch on December 23, 2017, 11:58:09 AM
also i'd imagine that you'd be able to turn auto-tracking off, or that capcom would at least patch that in later
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Corporal on December 23, 2017, 12:31:38 PM
Yer not being wrong, or being a cunt, noob. It's true that the tracking part was completely minuscule, especially the further you got in the game.

And I still enjoyed that the option existed. Can't help it. I was never a fan of grinding a certain quest to get a rare drop. Well, for the most part. Sometimes it's inevitable, for gameplay or fashion reasons. However, I'm more of a smell the flowers by the wayside kinda guy. Most of the time I'd run quests for a while, then look what I'd be able to craft, not the other way around. The loot stuff is definitely nice, but only secondary for me.

Oh well. We will see how the demo relates to the game. Personally, I hope the glowbugs are just a low rank/easy mode thing.

...well, not like it'll affect me. I think I'm unconsciously concern-trolling.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Himu on December 23, 2017, 12:45:37 PM
I never said this was indicative of the final game. However, it's a demo. All I have go off on is the demo.

Ignoring that, it doesn't change the games actual structure. You start the demo with an objective. There is now some chick that tells you not only how to track to it with some major clue to look for, but also the general vicinity of the monster. Not only that, but she obtrusively pops up with a message now and then, voice acted and all, with info. It's annoying as fuck, takes me out of the game.

It's more like Monster Tell Me What To Do Please. It isn't Monster Hunter. You know, where you have scant details on the monsters location, use your brain, scout it, track it. It's some chick telling you where it is, a clue on how to find it, then you go to that location and follow some green shit.

I'm still interested in the game, but these concerns must be waived. It's like playing a Metroid with someone havig a regular message pop up. "The monster is weak! Now's your chance!" When before, you got everything you needed about the monster and its health status based on its animations and behavior.

Baby's first Monster Hunter. Frankly it's infuriating because Monster Hunter was already popular and was fine before. It fit a specific audience. If people did not like Monster Hunter before this, changing its DNA to make them feel powerful and accomplished by following a green light, is insulting to the fanbase. TBQH, those people can fuck off and Capcom need not appeal to them. There are other games for them to play without ruining Monster Hunter with their awful, awful taste.

So I have interest in the game but there's lots of :confused question marks here. I play games that do not tell me what to do. A part of the reason I love Monster Hunter is because it does exactly that and respects the players intelligence. If Monster Hunter no longer does that then I have zero interest in it going forward. The voice acting, obtrusive helper, handholding are all concerning and need to be addressed. I'm not sure if Capcom has said anything about any of this because I don't follow game news anymore unless it's a fighting game because fuck video games, but changing one of the few video game series that I actually like now is bound to piss me off.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Himu on December 23, 2017, 12:49:01 PM
Yer not being wrong, or being a cunt, noob. It's true that the tracking part was completely minuscule, especially the further you got in the game.

And I still enjoyed that the option existed. Can't help it. I was never a fan of grinding a certain quest to get a rare drop. Well, for the most part. Sometimes it's inevitable, for gameplay or fashion reasons. However, I'm more of a smell the flowers by the wayside kinda guy. Most of the time I'd run quests for a while, then look what I'd be able to craft, not the other way around. The loot stuff is definitely nice, but only secondary for me.

Oh well. We will see how the demo relates to the game. Personally, I hope the glowbugs are just a low rank/easy mode thing.

...well, not like it'll affect me. I think I'm unconsciously concern-trolling.

If the beta is stil up I will play normal monster difficulty later and show the whole thing so you can see it for yourself.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: bluemax on December 23, 2017, 01:02:13 PM
I got through the tutorials and all optimism I had for this was already gone. I'm not sure what it is about Monster Hunter I don't like, but I don't like it and this did nothing to change my mind.

It sure is pretty though.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Tasty on December 23, 2017, 01:10:32 PM
Surprised they didn't add a health bar tbh. This is really shaping up to be babby's first MH.

Which is ironic since I'm sure that's what people called Tri and 4. :P

Hoping the final game's great and makes MH get the attention it's always deserved. 🤞
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Himu on December 23, 2017, 01:18:16 PM
If they added a health bar :lol
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: TEEEPO on December 26, 2017, 08:53:12 PM
so, the beta was my first monster hunter experience and i loved what little of it i played

day one, on pc preferably
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: HardcoreRetro on December 27, 2017, 05:26:32 AM
Beat all the monsters on the first try. Even killed the fish thing in the second fight. Apparently it gives you some extra crap for the main game?

Team long sword 4 lyfe!
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Bebpo on January 19, 2018, 11:51:45 PM
I tried the Monhun beta just now. Did the easy quest and normal quest. This is like the 3rd time I've attempted to play Monster Hunter, first being on PS2 on MH1 or 2, then on Wii with MH3. Never made it more than like an hour and wasn't feeling it so moved on to something else. Now I'm finally trying to learn what the appeal of the series is and give it a real shake.

So are the easy/normal "quests" basically representative of what the entire game is? Drop into an area -> find some tracks -> find your monster -> bash on it for 5 mins while dodging until it runs away -> chase it to the next area -> bash on it for 5 mins while dodging until it runs away -> chase it to the next area etc...

And along the chase, scripted events play out in each area like in the normal monster quest the 2nd area it gets into a battle with the swimming one then when it retreats to the next area there's another swimming one.

Then you beat your monster and grab the parts and then like use this to upgrade your equipment? So do you just keep redoing the same monsters over and over until you upgrade enough to get strong enough for the next monster?

I mean is there more to the game than that? Because I like the actual combat, feels pretty good though it's slower and weighty. Reminds me of playing Souls games with heavy weapons. But like I really don't know how I feel about the "monsters runs away and then you do fight again" mechanic. It's not even like in area 2 or 3 the monster seemed to get any new moves to dodge. Was just doing the same fight over and over dodging the same 3-5 moves and countering. Just feels like it'd get old real quick. So help me understand the appeal of the game.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Bebpo on January 20, 2018, 03:36:50 AM
Ok, so I tried again and did the 3rd quest (T-rex) and I ran out of the 20 min timer because I wasn't doing enough damage 1p. I guess this is where either upgrading or MP comes in. So I tried it again 4p Multiplayer w/random from around the world and it was pretty damn fun! Lotta crazy moments, cutting off body parts, dudes getting rushed. We beat it, but was still close with less than 5 minutes left even with 4 people attacking the T-rex.

Then tried the last quest elder dragon 4p multi again. Was a lot of fun, we did pretty decent and we got him up to a canyon where I kept doing the run halfway up a wall and jump off attack onto his back move and the other players would go NICE and then I'd down him and we'd hit him a lot. Eventually died, but was fun.

This was the first time I've had fun playing Monster Hunter since like it came out :lol, and it's all because of the Multiplayer. Without the rpg upgrading systems in the beta, I'm not sure if I'd dig the single player or if it'd get boring/feel like a grind. But the MP is really easy to jump into and matchmake and there's something about the chaos of 4 non-pro random people running around beating on a big monster that's really silly fun. Glad I pre-ordered this, will give it a real try and stick to MP for quests.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Himu on January 20, 2018, 04:59:44 AM
In old MH you do not follow tracks like this. You find it yourself and have to actually "hunt" it (like tagging it so you can follow it across the map if it leaves trying to save its life, things like that). The core premise is doing missions (as you saw easy, normal, hard;etc) missions and looting the monsters and getting local items. Then you craft the shit to get new armor and weapons to survive against harder monsters. The appeal is free form and arcade like precision: you can tackle hunting your monster any damn way you see fit. Whether it's not even killing it and just capturing it in a  net. Or maybe you wanna trick it by throwing out food infused with sleep herbs that makes the mark fall asleep after eating it. Allowing you to fuck it up? Or maybe you like being tactical and enjoy planting bombs and traps for it to fall in. There's lots of options and the appeal is beating the monster YOUR way and then making yourself a cool armor out of it. Sometimes, you might want to take a monster out with your buddies. It's fun.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Himu on January 20, 2018, 05:03:03 AM
Here's an old thread I guess. It's short. I hope it shows why the game loop of MH is addictive and why it's appealing and fun.

http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=42044.0

Just re-read the thread. Gosh I loved MH2FU. I would KILL for a modern port to consoles or pc with online multiplayer. FU is easily my favorite MH. I still have NEVER played MH multiplayer. I haven't played 4 or X. Are those legit MonHun games?
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Tasty on January 20, 2018, 12:21:54 PM
4 Ultimate is a masterpiece. It's ugly as sin but fun as fuck.

Haven't played X/Gen.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Tasty on January 20, 2018, 01:02:59 PM
Also bebps the monsters DO get different attack patterns in frenzy mode - basically when they're low on health or stamina.

But yes, aside from the RPG elements, that's "all there is to it." It's a string of arcade-esque boss battles with their own unique patterns and attributes.

You can buff yourself up but fundamentally, whether you can take down a monster is up to YOU and YOUR skill. (And in multiplayer, the skills of your party members too obviously.) It's a contest of actual gameplay skill, more old-school Castlevania than Call of Duty.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Corporal on January 20, 2018, 01:19:08 PM
Seconding 4U. Preferably on a new3DS. Aim for 60fps...ish.

X is okay. Far less story oriented, setting-wise it's mainly a bunch of nostalgia laden revamped locations from old MonHans to cash in on those rose tinted glasses. Personally, it had the opposite effect. Been there, done that. Too many effects going off at times (ymmv). It does look nice though (outside a bunch of obvious asset recyclings). The newly introduced combat tweaks are nice, but not balanced enough - a good first try, but severely in need of more polish. Plus, the halved framerate. :-\ Don't get me wrong, it's a good game. Just, coming off 4U it feels odd.

Also, Prowler mode is another still half baked system that doesn't offer half as much choice as it was designed to - the tiny selection of skills that are obviously superior (and by a large margin!) severely disincentivise experimentation. Beyond that, it's kinda wonky: outside of a low damage output, everything else is cranked up to eleven. No need for farming or preparation, you have unlimited traps etc and are nigh invincible, you really need to fuck up to cart, especially since you can just (admittedly, slowly) dig into the ground to auto-evade almost all attacks.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: paprikastaude on January 20, 2018, 01:59:12 PM
Monster Hunter X ended with an idol dance number. Series was that close going full low-tier otaku junk like Fire Emblem and MegaTen. Thank god MHW takes a big step back from all that shit. 4 annoyed me with the different buffs you needed for certain monsters, which just cluttered your inventory and didn't add much to the gameplay.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Himu on January 20, 2018, 04:09:52 PM
If I get 4U will someone play multi with me and pop my MH multi cherry? I have a new 3ds.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Himu on January 20, 2018, 04:11:13 PM
Monster Hunter X ended with an idol dance number. Series was that close going full low-tier otaku junk like Fire Emblem and MegaTen.

 :oreilly

What? Huh? Please fully describe all of this fuckery. Also SMT is low tier otaku junk? Huh?
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Tasty on January 20, 2018, 04:13:04 PM
It's been a while for me but I've been meaning to pick it back up again. Sure.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Bebpo on January 20, 2018, 04:47:39 PM
Watched some tutorial vids on MHW and some vids of players taking down monsters in different ways in the beta using the environment and items and traps and stuff. Was very helpful in seeing that there's more to it than just "keep punching the monster in the non-hard part while dodging for 10-20 mins". Pretty excited for the full game. I think one thing that's tough about the beta for new players is they give you like a million items and every weapon and everything right off the bat and I have no idea what most of this stuff does. Hopefully the main game has a more standard progression where you get a few new items/equip at a time and can learn how to use each thing.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: paprikastaude on January 20, 2018, 04:56:33 PM
Monster Hunter X ended with an idol dance number. Series was that close going full low-tier otaku junk like Fire Emblem and MegaTen.

 :oreilly

What? Huh? Please fully describe all of this fuckery. Also SMT is low tier otaku junk? Huh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpFsNeubnug

I.e. taking weird turns like SMT recently, regarding #Tokyo Sessions and SMT4:A.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Himu on January 20, 2018, 05:14:13 PM
Jesus Christ, Japan. Is nothing sacred? That fucking country.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Tasty on January 20, 2018, 05:29:54 PM
:kobeyuck

Pretty glad I didn't get X/Gen.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: archie4208 on January 21, 2018, 06:11:34 AM
Took me 14 tries to solo the new monster in the beta.  Holy shit he's tough.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: kingv on January 21, 2018, 09:19:48 AM
Tried to send lay this last night, and couldn’t find a match in 5 minutes so can’t comment on the multiplayer, but the single player seemed not amazing.

Isn’t that sort of odd for a beta to have matchmaking be dead? I was considering picking this up, but now I’m not as sure.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Bebpo on January 21, 2018, 12:09:09 PM
Weird. I wasn't having any trouble finding parties the night before.

Haven't played this since the one night I played, but been itching to play it again. I'm pretty excited for the full game and my first real MH experience!
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: kingv on January 21, 2018, 12:19:00 PM
Your impressions are what made me want to give it a shot, actually.

I can live with clunkiness as long as the matchmaking is solid.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Bebpo on January 21, 2018, 01:10:46 PM
Here's how matchmaking worked for me the other night:

MP -> Pick quest -> Pick a camp (I'm assuming each camp is a lobby? And the number by each is the # of players in each lobby? So I'd pick the camp with the most players) -> Attempt to matchmake -> get into a group -> Someone drops out -> repeat from pick a camp -> do that a few times and get in a group where people don't drop -> play.

Also At the start I think it asks what region (I might be thinking of a different game, I played like 3 MP betas this past week) you are? And I put NA.

Hope that helps.

FWIW almost all the players I matched with had Korean or Japanese names. So it maybe playing during hours when people in Asia are awake helps since that's where MH is most popular.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 21, 2018, 10:19:49 PM
Downloaded the beta and forgot to play it this weekend. Whoops.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: chronovore on January 22, 2018, 03:08:07 AM
Downloaded the beta and forgot to play it this weekend. Whoops.

Me too.  :-\
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 22, 2018, 06:32:59 PM
Downloaded the beta and forgot to play it this weekend. Whoops.

Me too.  :-\

And yet I preordered it this morning. Looking forward to it. Haven't really played a MH since the original on the PS2. I bought a couple of the PSP games and one on the 3DS but didn't play a whole lot of any of them.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: tiesto on January 22, 2018, 08:22:48 PM
I know MH is generally multiplayer-first, but think there will be enough for a single player to get something out of with this one? A more 'noob friendly' MH is what I think I need to finally get into the series, but am not really too big into high-commitment multiplayer (i.e. jumping on a few short Splatoon 2 or fighting game matches is fine, but having to do coordination and play with other ppl for hours at a time is not my thing).
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Himu on January 22, 2018, 09:15:32 PM
Monster Hunter is multiplayer first since when? I have never played MH multiplayer in all of my hundreds of hours with the series. Entire entries such as 3 Ultimate for 3ds didn't have multiplayer. Since when is MH about multi? It's a big element for a certain portion of the fanbase but the focus? You have been sorely mistaken and led astray. That's like saying Diablo's focus is multiplayer. It's a nice bonus, but at the end of the day it's all about PHAT LOOT.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Tasty on January 22, 2018, 09:40:24 PM
MH has been multiplayer focused since at least 2G/FU.

Also, 3U for 3DS had hella multiplayer, just not internet-based.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Positive Touch on January 22, 2018, 09:50:06 PM
playing diablo single player is a cry for help
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Himu on January 22, 2018, 10:15:03 PM
Slight correction: MH has been multiplayer-focused in Japan. 3U is an example of this. Oh yeah, it had multiplayer, but not based off the internet aka how most Americans and Europeans play handhelds. Japan is different. In Japan, you can bring your 3ds to work and play with friends and play via ad-hoc. We don't and didn't really have that here, so most of us were playing these games single player.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Bebpo on January 22, 2018, 10:57:18 PM
playing diablo single player is a cry for help

Most my diablo game type playing is SP ;_;

But yeah, playing D3 with the bore at launch was the most fun I’ve had in one.
They’re competent SP loot games, but just more fun in MP.

That’s what I’m getting from MH too. If it was more like DMC/Souls short intense boss fights it’d be better SP (Souls bosses are better SP for sure, MP is easy mode). But with the long grueling hunts MP just adds more fun chaos from the beta.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: chronovore on January 22, 2018, 11:00:06 PM
Monster Hunter is multiplayer first since when? I have never played MH multiplayer in all of my hundreds of hours with the series. Entire entries such as 3 Ultimate for 3ds didn't have multiplayer. Since when is MH about multi? It's a big element for a certain portion of the fanbase but the focus? You have been sorely mistaken and led astray. That's like saying Diablo's focus is multiplayer. It's a nice bonus, but at the end of the day it's all about PHAT LOOT.

Multi is absolutely its focus in Japan. Always has been.

Edit: Beaten. By you, no less.  :-[
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Himu on January 22, 2018, 11:39:30 PM
playing diablo single player is a cry for help

Most my diablo game type playing is SP ;_;

But yeah, playing D3 with the bore at launch was the most fun I’ve had in one.
They’re competent SP loot games, but just more fun in MP.

That’s what I’m getting from MH too. If it was more like DMC/Souls short intense boss fights it’d be better SP (Souls bosses are better SP for sure, MP is easy mode). But with the long grueling hunts MP just adds more fun chaos from the beta.

The toughness of some hunts in single player make them even more tense and why American Monster Hunter fans have been forced to git gud by sheer necessity. It's not something I really blink at anymore. It's how I've been groomed. That said, I can see that point from someone new to the franchise. For the record, I think MH trashes Souls.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Bebpo on January 22, 2018, 11:41:33 PM
Oh yeah, one big difference from Souls MP is that the bosses in Souls can only track 1 player so everyone else is basically safe 99% of the time which is why MP makes bosses a joke. But in MonHun, a boss will like bite at one player in front, swing a tail at a player in the back and then leap to some guy using a bow far away. So they're definitely designed more for MP. Pretty sure Souls bosses are designed as purely 1v1 fights.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: kingv on January 25, 2018, 10:09:31 AM
I think I decided to pick this up after all.... if I’m not digging it, there’s alway evilbay
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: hungrynoob on January 25, 2018, 10:17:11 AM
what you guys going to be playing on?

ill buy it for xbox one initially but will buy a ps4 to play later on.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 25, 2018, 11:32:15 AM
PS4.

This is getting better reviews than I expected.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 25, 2018, 11:39:14 AM
The reviews kinda sound like "Wow this is just like Monster Hunter, except without all the bad stuff that Monster Hunter fans have forced themselves to endure." :lol
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: kingv on January 25, 2018, 12:27:27 PM
I can go either way, like with sex, but will probably do PS4 if there are others here playing there, so I can party up.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Bebpo on January 25, 2018, 01:09:21 PM
I still haven't found a reason to get an Xbox One, and it's not on PC, so PS4 for me.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 25, 2018, 01:25:28 PM
The reviews kinda sound like "Wow this is just like Monster Hunter, except without all the bad stuff that Monster Hunter fans have forced themselves to endure." :lol

I figured the reviews would be similar to Dynasty Warriors reviews, but people seem much more positive. [shrug]
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Purple Filth on January 25, 2018, 01:47:16 PM
My finger is hovering over the buy button.

but not sure if i should pull  :snoop
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Himu on January 25, 2018, 02:34:39 PM
It blesses my heart to see so many people interested in Monster Hunter when only a few years ago I had only me and myself and maybe Andy to talk about it.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 25, 2018, 03:10:27 PM
Crazy what happens when you put it on a big, powerful console with a robust online system.

Will definitely be interesting to see how Japan responds to it.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 25, 2018, 03:39:09 PM
The reviews kinda sound like "Wow this is just like Monster Hunter, except without all the bad stuff that Monster Hunter fans have forced themselves to endure." :lol

I figured the reviews would be similar to Dynasty Warriors reviews, but people seem much more positive. [shrug]

It's not necessarily a bad thing. If anything, it's nice to finally see Monster Hunter on a system more powerful than the PS2 for the first time.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Purple Filth on January 25, 2018, 03:45:39 PM
Crazy what happens when you put it on a big, powerful console with a robust online system.

Will definitely be interesting to see how Japan responds to it.

Like what people were clambering for all though years ago  :doge

Seriously though its been a while since i've checked out a MH game  but i'm not sure if i can add it to this very large list of games i now have on the back burner. Also there is one game i keep stubbornly going back to.

But the Hammer is calling me back  :aah
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Bebpo on January 25, 2018, 04:09:16 PM
Anecdotal but every person I know who owns a PS4 is buying it and only 1 has ever played MH before. I'm pretty sure non-Japan sales are gonna be waaaay more than whatever the highest selling non-Japan MH sales have been to date.

The question is if the game is gonna flop in Japan losing them a ton of sales there. Sadly, I have a feeling it will. MH3 did ~500k sales on Wii in Japan compared to like the 2 million it does on portables. MHW probably end up around 500k on PS4 imo, maybe 300-400k since the console market is even worse these days. Hopefully WW sales make up for it if that happens.

Who knows though, maybe it'll be huge in Japan.

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Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Himu on January 25, 2018, 05:29:33 PM
Crazy what happens when you put it on a big, powerful console with a robust online system.

Will definitely be interesting to see how Japan responds to it.

Like what people were clambering for all though years ago  :doge


So people had to port beg and act like system warrior fegs in order to play a good game? Sounds about right.  :doge
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: doctavius bonbon on January 25, 2018, 07:06:22 PM
Anecdotal but every person I know who owns a PS4 is buying it and only 1 has ever played before.

Pretty much everyone I play FFXIV with is getting it. I even went and bought a pro for it. Haven't seen such collective hype for a game in a while.

This'll be my first MH game since Tri, so it'll be fun getting back into it with my discord bros.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Bebpo on January 26, 2018, 02:37:59 AM
Man, I am so hyped for this tomorrow. Haven't been truly EXCITED for a day 1 videogame in years.
And it's ironic because I've never been into MH! But ever since playing that beta I can't stop thinking about this game and weapons and tactics and MONSTERS. Plus all my friends getting it means it's exciting to play together since we're all newbies!

Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: hungrynoob on January 26, 2018, 05:25:40 AM
That fucking tutorial was annoying as fuck.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: HardcoreRetro on January 26, 2018, 06:24:33 AM
 *Looks at Resetera thread*

Some guy crying over killing the digital monsters.  :-\

Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: kingv on January 26, 2018, 08:17:03 AM
Bought it on the boner to play with bro in law... is anyone else on bone, or are the rest of you PS4?
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Switters on January 26, 2018, 11:51:39 AM
Is there a pacifist route in the single player or do I have to hunt the monsters?
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 26, 2018, 12:19:52 PM
Is there a pacifist route in the single player or do I have to hunt the monsters?

...

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Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Rufus on January 26, 2018, 01:25:43 PM
He's piggybacking onto the joke a couple posts above his.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: kingv on January 26, 2018, 01:35:37 PM
I think it needs a tourist mode. “Monster follower”
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Brehvolution on January 26, 2018, 01:36:37 PM
Monster Observer and Appreciator
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Himu on January 26, 2018, 03:12:04 PM
Is there a pacifist route in the single player or do I have to hunt the monsters?

You can put monsters to sleep and then capture them in a net if it’s like older MH games.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: kingv on January 26, 2018, 03:13:37 PM
So you jerk them off first?

Go from Monsyerhunter to Monsterbator?
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: hungrynoob on January 26, 2018, 04:00:05 PM
Is there a pacifist route in the single player or do I have to hunt the monsters?

You can put monsters to sleep and then capture them in a net if it’s like older MH games.

so we can take it back to base and get more carvings from it for mats.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: HardcoreRetro on January 27, 2018, 02:58:00 PM
So you jerk them off first?

Go from Monsyerhunter to Monsterbator?

There's this story of a dolphin trainer jerking of a dolphin. The dolphin fell in love with the trainer. When people found out about it, they took away the trainer. The dolphin felt so heartbroken it swam to the bottom of it's tank and drowned itself.

Depending on how emotional the monsters in Monster Hunter are, you might stil be killing them by doing this.

(Apparently this story is how the Ecco the Dolphin people came up with the game.)
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: hungrynoob on January 27, 2018, 03:00:31 PM
they were also feeding the dolphin lsd to try teach it to speak human.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Akala on January 27, 2018, 04:00:03 PM
I'm not googling this
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Bebpo on January 27, 2018, 04:08:02 PM
Well this thread sure got weird.

I only played a bit, did the first 2 quests using the hammer aka. pound their head over and over. Cool but still in the beta/demo content. Looking forward to experiencing some new monsters and some challenging monsters that force me to dive deep into weaknesses and traps and environmental damage and stuff. Gonna stick to 1p for a while until it starts getting tougher at which point I'll do quests 4p. Haven't decided whether I'm sticking with the hammer. Might try going bow but I do enjoy the melee feel of smashing dinos and breaking parts off.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: kingv on January 27, 2018, 04:32:14 PM
I can’t really figure out how the multiplayer works. Every time I go to join a session it can’t find any, every time I create one, no one ever joins.

I feel like there is something I’m missing, but I know it’s not my connection or Live, because I can join parties just fine.

I can’t really tell if the game is supposed to be auto-joining a lobby, but isn’t, or if I haven’t gotten far enough to do anything multiplayer,... or what.

Edit: also using that insect glaive. The launch is nice.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: kingv on January 27, 2018, 04:42:30 PM
I mostly like the gameplay, but sometimes think the monsters take too long to kill.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: HardcoreRetro on January 27, 2018, 04:52:44 PM
they were also feeding the dolphin lsd to try teach it to speak human.

So it could communicate with aliens and tell us about them.

You guys also don't have to google it. It's from a BBC documentary called: The Girl Who Talked to Dolphins.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Positive Touch on January 27, 2018, 05:14:26 PM
didn't buy it yet bc im trying to finish what i already have, but is this gonna be one of those multiplayer games where everyone knows exactly what to do already and i just chase after them and try not to die?
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Himu on January 27, 2018, 05:17:05 PM
Shouldn’t be. Play the game in sp mode first to get acclimated on how to play MH.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Positive Touch on January 27, 2018, 05:20:06 PM
cool. will prolly say fuck it and buy it on the first sale, even tho i still havent gotten a switch yet. if anyone knows an easy way for me to get on disability to have more time for gaming, my dms are open.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: hungrynoob on January 27, 2018, 09:18:13 PM
box system confuses me, items and mats are seperate, when i finish  quest mats are gone from my invent and i cant see in my box, and why does the box ave very little space?
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on January 27, 2018, 09:41:54 PM
I can't figure out the MP either. I found this Gathering Hub upstairs with a cool Arena where I fought the poison puck fuck guy even though I haven't got to him in the main campaign yet. Can't seem to get any MP going and I wonder if it's because you can only matchmake with people posting quests in your lobby and there's a shit ton of lobbys and who knows where the bulk of the player base is hanging out. I think I picked NA, West Coast 1 or something.

Anyone poison fuck guy in the arena was a fun fight. I like how the arena uses pre-set gear loadouts. Gives you a chance to jump into another weapon type full geared up and have a go. I'm using BONE CLUB II currently and I did the Bone Sword loadout and that was a fun fight although the poison was annoying. Also I would get knocked down by the poison and then he'd run up and tongue swipe me before I could get up and hit me again and then run up and tongue swipe again before I could move and kill me sometimes. Felt pretty bullshit getting hit constantly while knocked down during your getting up animation before you can roll out of the way.

In the main story, got to the point where you make your first new camp in expedition mode. Did a bunch of minor quests and took out the Kula-Yaka bird guy who had way too much HP considering he's just some skinny bird guy with a rock wtf.

Anyhow, it's fun. But yeah when I'm ready to play MP I better mess around and figure out how to actually find other people. I wanna do MP Arena battles!
Also I like how the game is like an MMO with a million quests if you want.

Anyone know what the point of some of this stuff is?

-Main quests/optional quests/challenge quests = moving the campaign, gearing up
-Arena quests = getting some loot for gear upgrades
-Bounties = little gathering/killing quests for research points (not sure what research does besides making it easier to track dinos?)
-Investigations = No idea what the point of doing these are? They're not quick either. Like take out 3 great jagras or something.

There might be even more quests than that, dunno. Kinda learning the game as I go. With the HAMMER I'm doing a lot of O overhead smashes and R2 charges into big smashes and dash forward rising uppercut. That's about it.

Also I have no idea how to use the insect glaive outside the few scripted run and swing spots or the few spots with stuff I can aim at and then grab and swing from. Not sure if there's supposed to be more than that. Also no idea how to capture a dino with a net. I have the capture net but haven't tried setting it yet.

Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: doctavius bonbon on January 27, 2018, 11:48:57 PM
Did you bros make a squad yet? Once you do that, you can all join the same online session and hop into hunts with each other. You can even join ones in progress and still be eligible for rewards, assuming 10 minutes haven't passed since the quest started.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Tasty on January 28, 2018, 12:52:23 AM
https://twitter.com/monsterhunter/status/957488428521701376
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on January 28, 2018, 01:39:04 AM
Did you bros make a squad yet? Once you do that, you can all join the same online session and hop into hunts with each other. You can even join ones in progress and still be eligible for rewards, assuming 10 minutes haven't passed since the quest started.

Let’s do it!

/will make a squad later and report
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: doctavius bonbon on January 28, 2018, 02:00:31 AM
iirc, only the squad leader can invite and remove players, so it's important that the leader is a particularly active player.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on January 28, 2018, 02:39:24 AM
I made a squad but I have no idea how to invite people?

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Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on January 28, 2018, 02:46:02 AM
Ok, I think to invite someone to a squad they have to be in your session first
And to invite to your session you have to invite them from your PSN friendlist.

So we better figure out everyone playing this here, and set a time when we're all online together and make sure were all on each other's friendlist so we can get in one session and all join a squad together.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on January 28, 2018, 04:38:34 AM
OK
THINGS I HAVE LEARNED ABOUT MONSTER HUNTER (WORLD)

One of my friends was online so I invited them into an online session -> squad invite -> made a squad session -> invited them (maybe can invite directly to squad session before they are in the squad, idk).

-We ran the 2 available arena missions, Puleik & Kulak. Was fun in 2p, but the coin drops seem useless for now because to craft arena gear set you need commedations which apparently are 5-star quests later. But it's worth it for the fun of arena combat.

-Then we did Investigations and went to the starting area and did Investigation #1 - Great Jagras -> return to camp -> Investigation #2 - Vespoids -> return to camp -> Investigation #3 Great Jagras. The Jagras fights 2p were fun and Vespoid stuff was lame.

Went back and had enough parts with all the investigation bonuses to easily craft full Jagras set.
MSQ is kinda wacky because cutscenes.

So, it seems to me that progression in MP with friends is sorta like this:

1. Progress through main game to unlock new areas which in turn unlocks new investigations
2. Grind investigations for specific monsters with friends since you get like 3x the monster part loot, and get full gear set for that monster quickly
3. Meanwhile watch as passive bounties are accomplished while you're doing 1 & 2
4. repeat

There's also the challenge quests which I haven't tried yet (forgot about them or we would've done the 2star fight two Great Jagras at the same time quest). Will try that tomorrow.


I'm also starting to get a good feel for the moveset for the HAMMER with the charge x 2 -> big smash down and the various smash combos. Teaming up with a friend and taking down a monster is pretty satisfying. Feels like every time you do it things play out a little differently which is nice.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: hungrynoob on January 28, 2018, 05:47:49 AM
xbox one online is down for a week, can you join rooms to hunt even if youre not part of a squad?
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: blaze on January 28, 2018, 07:03:03 AM
Will this be the first monster hunter I play for more than an hour? Who knows but sure fuck it I'll try.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: archie4208 on January 28, 2018, 07:14:12 AM
My PSN ID is Aarchiiee if anyone wants to add me.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: kingv on January 28, 2018, 09:55:13 AM
At least I know why I can’t party up on Cbox. Matchmaking is all fucked up like clown pussy.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: paprikastaude on January 28, 2018, 01:26:46 PM
This game :delicious Audiovisual masterpiece. I started with GS for the first time to challenge myself a little and already stuck with it for 10 hours. Really good with the new moves. Have yet to play multiplayer.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Tasty on January 28, 2018, 02:20:59 PM
Great Sword is my fave. <3
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Himu on January 28, 2018, 02:44:43 PM
Holy shit I need this game. People actually playing MH I can't miss this shit. But I lack the money now. :fbm

Words cannot express how happy this thread makes me :tocry

MH finally made it in America :tocry

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Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 28, 2018, 02:51:21 PM
Note to self: don't use the gun lance even if you think it's cool.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on January 28, 2018, 03:24:07 PM
Holy shit I need this game. People actually playing MH I can't miss this shit. But I lack the money now. :fbm

Words cannot express how happy this thread makes me :tocry

MH finally made it in America :tocry

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Yeah, it's pretty dope. Makes me tempted to go back and play one of the older ones with even more monsters after I finish this one up. I saw XX has like 90 monsters damn.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: paprikastaude on January 28, 2018, 03:26:13 PM
Great Sword is my fave. <3

New triple charge, when that shit hits in the face oh my gawd
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: archie4208 on January 28, 2018, 03:26:50 PM
Note to self: don't use the gun lance even if you think it's cool.
I tried to main GL during the demo and it seems too much like a one trick pony.  I'm rolling with regular lance now and it's a lot more versatile.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on January 28, 2018, 04:04:51 PM
My PSN ID is Aarchiiee if anyone wants to add me.

Sent you a request.

Anyone else playing on PS4 that I may not have on my friends list? You can just search and send me an invite under bebpo
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: blaze on January 28, 2018, 04:14:56 PM
Yeah I'm loving this. First real time playing Monster Hunter. I'm using the charge blade, probably not the best weapon to use for my first time.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on January 28, 2018, 06:35:24 PM
While I'm doing all these investigations and optional missions for research points and mats and stuff, I'm kinda wondering if there's any reason to do anything besides just sticking to the MSQ until high rank? Like you get enough mats from the msq to make armor/weapon upgrades one piece or so per mission, and it's not like you need top-tier armor for most of these guys.

Also while you could spend an hour or so grinding out a full set for a dino, if you spent that hour on the MSQ you'd fight a stronger dino and get a piece of gear with better stats than the one you just grinded out which is not outdated.

Thinking about stopping doing all the side stuff and just sticking to the MSQ until it gets hard enough I need to grind out some gear. Also I need to watch a tutorial on capturing because I have a couple capturing quests and still no idea how that works. There hasn't been an MSQ tutorial on it or anything.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: kingv on January 28, 2018, 10:18:57 PM
I did pretty well just do main quests until I got out of the first area. Then they started getting pretty tough without some gring
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Momo on January 28, 2018, 11:51:23 PM
got the lenticular, finally home so i can play now :hyper
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on January 29, 2018, 04:21:39 AM
Spent 30 mins grinding out the Barroth helmet. Totally worth it. Now I'm pretty good at fighting him.
Man, when you're doing MP vs. little Kula-Yak boulder guy and 4 people are smashing his face in while he's grounded it's brutal ><

Fought the water loch ness dude. Was pretty annoying with my hammer. Felt like it moves too fast for a slow weapon like that, and was mainly swinging and doing jump down attacks.

What's the point of all these research points you get from the bounties? I have so many but no idea how to use them on anything?
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: HardcoreRetro on January 29, 2018, 04:52:09 AM
What's the point of all these research points you get from the bounties? I have so many but no idea how to use them on anything?

I don't have the game yet, but Monster Hunter is basically read the wiki page personified. All deeper mechanics are covered there. I played over a 100 hours of MH3 and still don't understand how the gem system works.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: archie4208 on January 29, 2018, 06:24:51 AM
http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/news/html/e180129.html

Andy on suicide watch.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Himu on January 29, 2018, 06:54:41 AM
:rejoice
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Momo on January 29, 2018, 07:04:46 AM
Played for like 4 hours, super easy so far feels a bit weird as a mon hun game but im onboard for now.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Raist on January 29, 2018, 07:37:56 AM
Paging Cindi:

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It’s been exactly a year since Capcom scored a No1 on the All Formats Entertainment Software Chart (Resident Evil 7: Biohazard) and the publisher does it again, with the first simultaneous worldwide release for a Monster Hunter title – ‘Monster Hunter: World’ for PS4/Xbox One debuts at No1 with far higher week 1 sales in the UK than any other Monster Hunter release. The series dates back to 2005’s ‘Monster Hunter’ for PS2 and the title that charted highest until now was 2016’s 3DS ‘Monster Hunter Generations’ which debuted at No3 in week 28, 2016.

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Capcom Co., Ltd. (Capcom) today announced that Monster Hunter: World for the PlayStation®4 computer entertainment system and Xbox One*1 has shipped 5 million units worldwide (including digital download sales). A PC version is to be released at a later date.
*1: Xbox One version is available in North America and Europe only
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: hungrynoob on January 29, 2018, 10:05:59 AM
there should be a minimised hud option, i want health guages and map and item.s Quest info, items popping up everywhere, all the foot prints and shit that keeps popping up on my screen is annoying af.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Tasty on January 29, 2018, 10:38:18 AM
http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/news/html/e180129.html

Andy on suicide watch.

One of my favorite series is selling well, so no...?
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Tasty on January 29, 2018, 10:39:49 AM
The biggest thing is the worldwide launch. It was pure torture waiting not just for previous games to be translated, but for Capcom to even confirm they're coming at all.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: kingv on January 29, 2018, 10:51:15 AM
Ended up buying this on the home (digitally no less) to gameshare with my BIL, and 3 hours later he’s like “I don’t know this isn’t for me”.

I should’ve bought physical on PS4 with GCU like I was originally planing :-/

Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: toku on January 29, 2018, 11:16:25 AM
https://youtu.be/hvlVtfSzO2Y
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: kingv on January 29, 2018, 01:02:45 PM
Charge blade looks pretty coo. I’m still trying to nail down my “favorite” weapon type to no avail.

I have messed around with the insect glaive, I like the launch but it doesn’t do tons of damage, and the buster sword, which hits harder for sure but I slow. Charge blade might be a good mix if I can get used to it.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on January 29, 2018, 01:09:53 PM
http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/news/html/e180129.html

Andy on suicide watch.

Amazing sales.

Pretty excited about this because it should ensure support of new content and an expansion.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: StealthFan on January 29, 2018, 01:31:07 PM
This shit is dope af
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Momo on January 29, 2018, 02:01:08 PM
Put in another 4 hours, still not exactly 100% on the way movement feels but I'm digging it, SP is super easy still lol
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: paprikastaude on January 29, 2018, 02:11:07 PM
http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/news/html/e180129.html

Now cut to all the Kirby/Yoshi avatared weirdos on gafREEE derailing every Capcom related thread for months, claiming they "betrayed the user base", "turned the series into Call of Duty" or whatever distinguished mentally-challenged narrative they were/are pushing to concern troll :neogaf
Sony tears were pretty fun when MH went to 3DS. But this is even better. Amazing breakthrough for the series that shits all over manchild fanboys.  :rejoice
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 29, 2018, 02:16:33 PM
Fuck time limits, and fuck this game. I'm by myself, motherfuckers, there shouldn't be a time limit. Fucking thing was almost dead. "Hey, can't kill you right now, my fucking phone timer went off." Nearly an hour of my life I'll never get back because every Japanese developer has to be a rulesperg of some sort. Too bad they can't be that spergy about good controls.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: doctavius bonbon on January 29, 2018, 02:25:04 PM
My PSN ID is Aarchiiee if anyone wants to add me.

Sent you a request.

Anyone else playing on PS4 that I may not have on my friends list? You can just search and send me an invite under bebpo

sent you an invite just now. 
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Tasty on January 29, 2018, 02:33:07 PM
Fuck time limits, and fuck this game. I'm by myself, motherfuckers, there shouldn't be a time limit. Fucking thing was almost dead. "Hey, can't kill you right now, my fucking phone timer went off." Nearly an hour of my life I'll never get back because every Japanese developer has to be a rulesperg of some sort. Too bad they can't be that spergy about good controls.

Lulz. There would be no skill involved if you could just wail on mons indefinitely until they croaked. The limit encourages skillful play.

In short, git gud. :ufup

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Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: eleuin on January 29, 2018, 02:33:43 PM
Nintendo systems were clearly holding the franchise back  :doge
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Tasty on January 29, 2018, 02:53:14 PM
Nintendo systems were clearly holding the franchise back  :doge

Let's be honest, Capcom was holding the franchise back.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 29, 2018, 02:56:28 PM
Fuck time limits, and fuck this game. I'm by myself, motherfuckers, there shouldn't be a time limit. Fucking thing was almost dead. "Hey, can't kill you right now, my fucking phone timer went off." Nearly an hour of my life I'll never get back because every Japanese developer has to be a rulesperg of some sort. Too bad they can't be that spergy about good controls.

Lulz. There would be no skill involved if you could just wail on mons indefinitely until they croaked. The limit encourages skillful play.

In short, git gud. :ufup

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There's no point to time limits in SP. You're doing 1/4 the damage of a group, so it's always going to take longer. I was using a bow which does shit damage to begin with, so it was taking forever even with coatings.  At no point was I warned that maybe it would take me beyond the time limit because my weapon was too low in damage or unsuitable to the monster, or anything of the sort. So I have to ask what the point of the handler character (who's supposed to be helping/advising you) is, beyond just being just another mission start point. This game doesn't respect the player's time.

also "git gud" is a couchlifer pudgeboy saying which means nothing to actual human beings
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Tasty on January 29, 2018, 03:02:48 PM
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You're doing 1/4 the damage of a group, so it's always going to take longer

Lol monsters are scaled in multiplayer for this reason bruv.

Redirect your impotent nerd rage towards a game that actually deserves it~
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 29, 2018, 03:04:38 PM
i realize that, but i doubt it scales that much, and your damage doesn't scale at all
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Tasty on January 29, 2018, 03:06:24 PM
::)
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 29, 2018, 03:06:53 PM
also eat shit, you fucking real life loser
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Tasty on January 29, 2018, 03:14:20 PM
How the mighty have fallen.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on January 29, 2018, 03:26:08 PM
For whatever reason, monsters do go down way faster in MP. Not sure if 4 players equally 4x HP scaling or if it's less. It also could just be that you're able to get more attacks in since more times when the enemy is not going after you (going after another player) and more often that the enemy is downed with 4 people trying to down it so more free damage smashing x 4.

Oh

And I just realized it's also probably because some of the other players have stronger weapons than you so they're doing more DPS than you do solo.

It's why when I play MSQ I play solo but when I'm grinding investigations a couple of times to get specific drops for gear I always jump in, light an SoS flare and by the time I've tracked the monsters there's usually 3 other players heading to my spot to join the fight. Fights go quicker and more fun. Grinding so far is pretty painless.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: kingv on January 29, 2018, 03:28:40 PM
I think from what I heard the the monster scales from SP to multiplayer, but does not scale from 2p-4P.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Momo on January 29, 2018, 03:31:21 PM
Dude, I can fuck up elder dragons solo in 50 mins in older (harder) games, the time limits are super generous in world cause the monsters are so easy. Just dont go out bow hunting and do like 3 hits per minute or something :lol
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Tasty on January 29, 2018, 03:32:56 PM
I think from what I heard the the monster scales from SP to multiplayer, but does not scale from 2p-4P.

Correct. I also believe they changed the scaling in Tri to be a bit easier (basing MP around 2-players being standard instead of 4.)
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on January 29, 2018, 03:42:58 PM
Dude, I can fuck up elder dragons solo in 50 mins in older (harder) games, the time limits are super generous in world cause the monsters are so easy. Just dont go out bow hunting and do like 3 hits per minute or something :lol

Yeah, even when I'm fighting bad I still clear stuff under 20 mins solo np. Only time it takes longer is if I get lost and it takes me a while to find the monster. (like I did the limited time event quest with the 2 great jagras and I ran around for 15 mins trying to find the 2nd great Jagras)

Btw, one thing I realized last night, do the monsters always have the same routes across missions? Like in the Ancient Forest map it feels like there's always a Great Jagras coming from the cave north of the first open area and then out by the waterfall and I guess the second one is up in the northwest open section. And like Barroth always seems to do a circle around the sand dunes and the open area where Kulu Yak is and they fight.

Like what I'm saying is it feels like once you kinda know their routes, you don't have to run around like a headless chicken looking for tracks, you just head straight to where they're gonna be on investigations and missions and stuff. Is that correct?
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: hungrynoob on January 29, 2018, 04:00:36 PM



Like what I'm saying is it feels like once you kinda know their routes, you don't have to run around like a headless chicken looking for tracks, you just head straight to where they're gonna be on investigations and missions and stuff. Is that correct?

seems like some things in mh never change
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: blaze on January 29, 2018, 04:38:08 PM
Man. I suck at this game, but I think it's getting it's claws into me.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: paprikastaude on January 29, 2018, 05:14:31 PM
Portable 3rd is when the games got easy. 4 players could take down a monster in a couple of minutes. That's why I always play solo first. Then multiplayer for mindless leveling (and some hardcore endgame content).
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Akala on January 29, 2018, 05:26:05 PM
29 days is pretty good to stick to a new year's resolution right?   :yeshrug
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: hungrynoob on January 29, 2018, 06:28:35 PM
now that ive had some time to play, ive just finished the electric flying squirrel todo-komachi or whatever its called on solo player.

Fundamentally, it does feel like a mh game which is good, and the graphics compared to the old games is defo a breath of fresh air. When youre running through the brush, looks really fucking pretty. Combat feels fun. So far its super easy mode. As bepo said, monsters hang around same-y areas, all gathering points are the same too. It always says "flourishing x" and i never see more than when its not.

 box arrangements, and how equipment is organised really annoys me. I never bothered to count but items and mats are separate in your item pouch, technically allowing you to carry more tbf. However, its all split in the item boxes aswell. Im guessing the idea was the declutter the main box. But i had a very particular way of arranging shit - the mats i could let slide because i only really used that for selling which you can still do, but that 4x5 or whatever sized box you get to organise all your equipment is a nightmare.  I used to dedicate the bottom 5 squares to armours only, arranging by set and in order from head to feet. Looking at this equipment screen now makes me want to stab my eyes out.

A lot of the game feels a bit clipped in terms of trying to cater to a newer audience, and I can swallow my pride on that. However, that reaches out to combinations aswell. I set out and did the first thing i normally do which was find all the blue mushrooms and honey i can. Blue mushrooms, what are they used for in this game? because i have not bothered or needed to look at the combo list once. Auto combo when some lists are full, my brain isnt equipped to deal with this.

Vigor wasps, well, pretty useless, they always seem to arrive just as youve finished healing, and they take forever to level up compared to your cat for example. As for potions and that, i dont mind the idea, but man muscle memory its hard to beat. The b and a are switched on xbox to wii u controller, and because im playing mh my brain is constantly thinking im holding a wii u controller its that bad.

BBQ spit, someone will die for the murder of the BBQ spit charm.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on January 29, 2018, 06:39:01 PM
I feel like a lot of the stuff you pick up is just used for ammo, so if you're not playing ranged about half of it's useless.
Also my only complaint (besides that I'd like to visibly see everyone in a session in town and maybe cooler looking weapon upgrades), is I wish the item pouch was a lot larger. There's so much to pick up I'm constantly having to dump stuff.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Himu on January 29, 2018, 07:14:10 PM
Do you still craft weapons and armor with shit you find? Bebpo says stuff you find is just for ammo but in old MH you have to search for ingredients to craft your gear.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Himu on January 29, 2018, 07:16:05 PM
Do you still craft weapons and armor with shit you find? Bebpo says stuff you find is just for ammo but in old MH you have to search for ingredients to craft your gear.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: hungrynoob on January 29, 2018, 07:20:16 PM
im not 100% on this, and im only hr4m but so far just bones/ore and monster mats.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on January 29, 2018, 07:25:22 PM
Do you still craft weapons and armor with shit you find? Bebpo says stuff you find is just for ammo but in old MH you have to search for ingredients to craft your gear.

Weapons/Gear are crafted from monster parts or mining/bone nodes (which go into your infinite inventory box).

There are like a hundred plants/mushrooms/bugs to grab everywhere and they go into your limited inv pouch along with usable items. Most of it is for crafting, either for like potions/traps/ammo or other stuff.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Himu on January 29, 2018, 07:27:28 PM
Oh ok so it’s the same as in the past.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Momo on January 29, 2018, 09:54:05 PM
Man. I suck at this game, but I think it's getting it's claws into me.
We were all bad once till we learned how to beat a Kut Ku, so many things used similar ai loops so you could approach them the same haha. Tigrex will make you sit up at first (if in game) and MHFU era Plesioth was a hitbox fuck but otherwise once you can do a Kut Ku you quickly parlay those skills to other monsters.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Purple Filth on January 29, 2018, 10:04:55 PM
I will have to get it next month  :tocry
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Momo on January 29, 2018, 10:14:34 PM
I'm double dipping, most of my new friend pc buddies are waiting so i'll have to get it again and teach 'em. Hopefully in full 60fps lol
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Tasty on January 29, 2018, 11:25:41 PM
Even in MH3U Plesioth was a piece of fuck.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Himu on January 29, 2018, 11:28:51 PM
Fucking Plesioth hahaha
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Momo on January 29, 2018, 11:43:08 PM
THINK YOU ROLLED? HIPCHECK MOTHERFUCKER.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on January 29, 2018, 11:54:33 PM
Was thinking yeah kinda easy and then I just did the TOBI-KADACHI and that motherfucker was intense. First enemy I fainted on. First monster that's fast and has status effects (lightning). Fighting in the small arena where he starts and he's all climbing trees and jump gliding tail swinging at you...damn good shit. Looking forward to the high end crazy fights like this. Feels like a glimpse at what's to come.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on January 30, 2018, 01:05:09 AM
Ok, I can't talk shit on running out of time. I did the Agajanth mission solo and it took me 40 mins >< Thought I was gonna fail towards the end, though I had it limping since like 25-30 mins in. With my hammer it was hard getting good connects in because it's head is above my swings. Had to basically have good timing on the charge -> upswing to hit it in the face. Plus it felt like it had a ton of HP.

Now time to do it 4p investigation-style to grind out a few more mats so I can make my Agajanth Hammer and go from like 660 damage to 780.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on January 30, 2018, 02:04:04 AM
Did Agajanth a couple times MP. The SoS search system is super good in this game. Bordering on amazing. You can search for the enemy you want and bam there are like 15-20 different games going against that monster at any time and you just jump into one.

First time did pretty good. Got a bunch of parts but not what I needed for my hammer upgrade. Second time we were doing ok and I had a really nice hammer moment where I smacked him in the head with a combo on a hill and sent him flying down the entire hill and then rushed down and did a flying hammer smash to his downed head. Then we all got caught in a fire blast (whoops) and failed the mission  :'( But because I broke its head I got 1 part and it was exactly the one part I needed for my hammer, so I still got to upgrade my hammer and grab a helmet too.

Need to get one more HR so I can do the Horizon Zero Dawn 5 star quest before it expires in a week.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Momo on January 30, 2018, 02:52:53 AM
Playing solo will take 40 mins with the tougher stuff till you get a gaggle of cats to distract the enemies though, so that's still fine.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: hungrynoob on January 30, 2018, 05:15:59 AM
Was thinking yeah kinda easy and then I just did the TOBI-KADACHI and that motherfucker was intense. First enemy I fainted on. First monster that's fast and has status effects (lightning). Fighting in the small arena where he starts and he's all climbing trees and jump gliding tail swinging at you...damn good shit. Looking forward to the high end crazy fights like this. Feels like a glimpse at what's to come.

his hitboxes are very weird he almost KO'd me when he shouldnt have touched me.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: paprikastaude on January 30, 2018, 09:00:43 AM
The Trex was my first game over. I actually had him weak, but without HP buffs (after fainting once) it gets a little tricky.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Purple Filth on January 30, 2018, 09:55:34 AM
Even in MH Freedom Unite Plesioth was a piece of fuck.

  FTFY

 :trigger  :trigger  :trigger
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: kingv on January 30, 2018, 10:03:16 AM
Finally figured out on Xbox you can still party up by jozoning a game directly. It’s only the matchmaking that’s broken. With the built in LFG, it’s a lifesaver.... love that for destiny as well.

Really enjoyed it in multiplayer.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: toku on January 30, 2018, 01:26:21 PM
https://twitter.com/AgnusDei_Belias/status/957619280849219584
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Positive Touch on January 30, 2018, 01:45:12 PM
ok i have a very important question that I haven't been able to find an answer to anywhere and I would really appreciate a response:

can I make a tortie cat partner
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: hungrynoob on January 30, 2018, 03:36:48 PM
The Trex was my first game over. I actually had him weak, but without HP buffs (after fainting once) it gets a little tricky.

youre supposed to be able to eat food at camp, but when i tried you dont get buffs from it.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on January 30, 2018, 03:42:18 PM
The Trex was my first game over. I actually had him weak, but without HP buffs (after fainting once) it gets a little tricky.

youre supposed to be able to eat food at camp, but when i tried you dont get buffs from it.

That seems kinda strange.

Also can't you just eat in the map? There are items that boost max HP (nutrients I think) and you can cook meat and eat it to restore stamina.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: paprikastaude on January 30, 2018, 04:58:29 PM
The Trex was my first game over. I actually had him weak, but without HP buffs (after fainting once) it gets a little tricky.

youre supposed to be able to eat food at camp, but when i tried you dont get buffs from it.

Because that would it make it too easy, I assume.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: hungrynoob on January 30, 2018, 05:10:41 PM
The Trex was my first game over. I actually had him weak, but without HP buffs (after fainting once) it gets a little tricky.

youre supposed to be able to eat food at camp, but when i tried you dont get buffs from it.

Because that would it make it too easy, I assume.

Are you sticking to the old norms?
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on January 30, 2018, 05:13:03 PM
The Trex was my first game over. I actually had him weak, but without HP buffs (after fainting once) it gets a little tricky.

youre supposed to be able to eat food at camp, but when i tried you dont get buffs from it.

Because that would it make it too easy, I assume.

Why? It doesn't make sense to have it where your first life you have better stats than your following ones. I mean the rewards given already go down each death.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Tasty on January 30, 2018, 06:38:13 PM
Even in MH Freedom Unite Plesioth was a piece of fuck.

  FTFY

 :trigger  :trigger  :trigger

Did you bold the wrong thing? Lol.

And I pointed out he was STILL jank as fuck in 3U because the hitboxes were generally much better in gen 3 than gen 2. But Plessy was still a piece of fuck.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: hungrynoob on January 30, 2018, 08:21:48 PM
The Trex was my first game over. I actually had him weak, but without HP buffs (after fainting once) it gets a little tricky.

youre supposed to be able to eat food at camp, but when i tried you dont get buffs from it.

Because that would it make it too easy, I assume.

Why? It doesn't make sense to have it where your first life you have better stats than your following ones. I mean the rewards given already go down each death.
Just depends how you feel really.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: kingv on January 30, 2018, 09:35:51 PM
I thought you get buffed every time you faint?
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on January 31, 2018, 03:26:36 AM
Monster Hunter World just sold over 2 million copies in Japan* in 3 days

 :o

 :o

 :whoo

That makes it:

-The highest opening for a Monster Hunter game in Japan
-The highest opening for a PS4 game in Japan
-The highest selling PS4 game in Japan outselling the LTD sales of even Dragon Quest XI and FFXV

For reference, the last console debut Monster Hunter was MH3 which debuted at 500k sales in Japan. A Major decrease from 2 which was on PSP. The train of thought being that MH doesn't sell on consoles.


Not only is this the first time in like 10-15 years we are seeing a Monster Hunter selling well on consoles in Japan
this is like the first time in 10-15 years that we are seeing console gaming actually do well in Japan which had thought to have been a market where traditional consoles were on their way out (Switch is doing great,
 but I attribute that more to it also being a portable and portables do very well in Japan).


Absolute insane result. Between this and the western sales doing in the millions and the game sold out worldwide. We're going to see Capcom ride this MHW train for a while to come. Probably get that G-rank expansion sooner than later, then a MHW2, etc...plus Capcom just saved themselves financially for a while which should help them across the board.

There is no doubt at all at this point that Monster Hunter is the biggest non-Nintendo-first-party franchise in Japan. Nothing else even gets close to touching it anywhere. Crazy.

*edit - Clarification, the 2 million number is directly from Capcom JPN and includes 650k digital sales from JPN+Asia, so the Japan number is probably closer to 1.5-1.7 with 300-500k being digital sold in Asia. At most it puts is on par or slightly below MH4 launch in Japan, but doesn't change anything else in how impressive the sales are.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Momo on January 31, 2018, 03:28:50 AM
Finally I can tell all those losers that say 'mon hun is a portable game' to stick a slippery swordfish directly up their asses.

p.s. Are we doing a bore crew?
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on January 31, 2018, 03:30:23 AM
I've got a squad on PS4 but we need to like set a time so we're all playing around the same time which as adults is kinda hard :'(
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Momo on January 31, 2018, 03:35:33 AM
I'm in GMT+2
I generally play around 4pm - late, we can maybe knock some stuff this weekend.
HR 3 ish so no man is left behind?
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on January 31, 2018, 03:49:03 AM
Yeah I think I'll be playing a lot on Saturday. Sunday I might be at a super bowl party so dunno, but my Sat is free and that sounds like MHW time.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: archie4208 on January 31, 2018, 05:20:58 AM
I'm on east coast so I'm probably in bed by the time you log on.  :fbm

Maybe we can do some hunts this weekend.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: hungrynoob on January 31, 2018, 07:03:43 AM
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/monsterhunter/images/7/76/MH2cover.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20070708202719)
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Purple Filth on January 31, 2018, 08:20:38 AM
Even in MH Freedom Unite Plesioth was a piece of fuck.

  FTFY

 :trigger  :trigger  :trigger

Did you bold the wrong thing? Lol.

And I pointed out he was STILL jank as fuck in 3U because the hitboxes were generally much better in gen 3 than gen 2. But Plessy was still a piece of fuck.

The bold is fine it was just to indicate he was always a POS.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Raist on January 31, 2018, 10:39:53 AM
Explain MH to me like I'm 5 brehs. Don't need the nitty-gritty, just the basic concept and mechanics.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: archie4208 on January 31, 2018, 10:58:48 AM
Hit dinosaur until it dies.

Do this hundreds of times to get marginally better gear.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: paprikastaude on January 31, 2018, 11:02:39 AM
Explain MH to me like I'm 5 brehs. Don't need the nitty-gritty, just the basic concept and mechanics.

eat or be eaten.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 31, 2018, 11:08:04 AM
Playing solo will take 40 mins with the tougher stuff till you get a gaggle of cats to distract the enemies though, so that's still fine.

You can play with cats instead of human beings?

(https://i.imgur.com/vIKNAP3.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Himu on January 31, 2018, 12:10:23 PM
This games sales :tocry

I’m so happy
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Raist on January 31, 2018, 12:26:42 PM
None of those replies are helpful.

Cindi halp pls.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on January 31, 2018, 12:45:27 PM
Basically cool repayable giant boss fights in highly interactive environments and a very good loot loop.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Raist on January 31, 2018, 01:24:02 PM
Hmpf. Not sure that's for me. Will give it a spin when it's cheap.

Anyway.

https://twitter.com/mochi_wsj/status/958657920484298753
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: paprikastaude on January 31, 2018, 01:29:28 PM
Playing solo will take 40 mins with the tougher stuff till you get a gaggle of cats to distract the enemies though, so that's still fine.

You can play with cats instead of human beings?

(https://i.imgur.com/vIKNAP3.jpg?1)

(https://i.imgur.com/89sagzq.jpg)
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World Beta is up
Post by: Himu on January 31, 2018, 01:57:23 PM
None of those replies are helpful.

Cindi halp pls.

.

In old MH you do not follow tracks like this. You find it yourself and have to actually "hunt" it (like tagging it so you can follow it across the map if it leaves trying to save its life, things like that). The core premise is doing missions (as you saw easy, normal, hard;etc) missions and looting the monsters and getting local items. Then you craft the shit to get new armor and weapons to survive against harder monsters. The appeal is free form and arcade like precision: you can tackle hunting your monster any damn way you see fit. Whether it's not even killing it and just capturing it in a  net. Or maybe you wanna trick it by throwing out food infused with sleep herbs that makes the mark fall asleep after eating it. Allowing you to fuck it up? Or maybe you like being tactical and enjoy planting bombs and traps for it to fall in. There's lots of options and the appeal is beating the monster YOUR way and then making yourself a cool armor out of it. Sometimes, you might want to take a monster out with your buddies. It's fun.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on January 31, 2018, 03:14:43 PM
So my son has been playing the hell out of my copy. I need to start my character (I like the hunting horn). But how long should it take to get through the tutorial to a save point? My kid doesn't remember, and it's hard to get a good chunk of time to myself to play.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Raist on January 31, 2018, 03:20:39 PM
Make him play through the tutorial and save. That'll teach him.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: mormapope on January 31, 2018, 03:37:42 PM
Been fucking with a lot of the weapons, big ass hammer is really easy to use. The katana or long sword is great too but I love the hammer's charge attack too much.

Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Let's Cyber on January 31, 2018, 03:47:41 PM
Playing solo will take 40 mins with the tougher stuff till you get a gaggle of cats to distract the enemies though, so that's still fine.

You can play with cats instead of human beings?

(https://i.imgur.com/vIKNAP3.jpg?1)
Pretty sure there is a direct correlation between number of cats in a game and sales. Maybe now they'll greenlight Dragon's Dogma 2 but there will only be cat pawns. And cat mounts. And all the NPCs will be cats.

20 million sold, minimum.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on January 31, 2018, 04:47:18 PM
Been fucking with a lot of the weapons, big ass hammer is really easy to use. The katana or long sword is great too but I love the hammer's charge attack too much.

I roll hammer and can confirm it is fun to smack things in the face and watch them recoil.

Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Momo on January 31, 2018, 11:48:29 PM
Playing solo will take 40 mins with the tougher stuff till you get a gaggle of cats to distract the enemies though, so that's still fine.

You can play with cats instead of human beings?

(https://i.imgur.com/vIKNAP3.jpg?1)
Yeah, just dont train them to throw bombs, then they will annoy you :lol
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Fortus on February 01, 2018, 10:09:39 AM
Played the original MH on PS2 but haven't touched the series since then. Picked this up partly from the nostalgia, partly from the hype and partly because PSN had that 10 percent off code thing so I could get the digital deluxe for about the price of the vanillla version. Was going to go stabby stabby with dual blades but changed at the last second to insect glaive on a whim. REALLY glad I did since the aerial stuff with the glaive is so damn fun. There's something very satisfying about doing a reverse juggle (combos keep ME in the air over the mark) then landing on the monsters back to get the Mount state and continuing the onslaught. Also, sending my bug in and having it extract buffs is boss
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Svejk on February 01, 2018, 11:51:29 AM
I will have to get it next month  :tocry
I'm right there with you, bruh.  The hype hasn't let up and makes it more unbearable.  I need that cat character in my life. :rkelly   
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: paprikastaude on February 01, 2018, 12:16:27 PM
out of dung bombs while rathalos and rathian teaming up :goty barely finished the quest in 49 minutes :goty2
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 01, 2018, 03:20:46 PM
Anjanath is wrecking me. I get that it's weak to water so I've got the Aqua Messer sword equipped and I'm trying not to just blindly hack away at it... but still. Daaamn.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on February 01, 2018, 03:38:13 PM
I get that it’s weak to water but I can’t do anything elemental with my hammer. Kinda wish you could get water shots for your slinger.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on February 01, 2018, 03:40:34 PM
Anjanath is wrecking me. I get that it's weak to water so I've got the Aqua Messer sword equipped and I'm trying not to just blindly hack away at it... but still. Daaamn.

My only advice is dodge a lot and only attack when safe after double rushes or fire done. Lots of jumping attacks too. Use the environment to get out of reach and then jump down attacks.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 01, 2018, 03:44:28 PM
I've been trying to use the environment to get on top of it, but no luck. I'll keep at it.

Tried to upgrade my Aqua Messer to level II but looks like a mineral for it isn't obtainable yet.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: paprikastaude on February 01, 2018, 03:53:34 PM
I get that it’s weak to water but I can’t do anything elemental with my hammer. Kinda wish you could get water shots for your slinger.

Watermoss into his face when in flame mode.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on February 01, 2018, 04:07:25 PM
I get that it’s weak to water but I can’t do anything elemental with my hammer. Kinda wish you could get water shots for your slinger.

Watermoss into his face when in flame mode.

WAIT, whaaaaaaat.
I kept picking up matermoss thinking I wish I could use this as a water attack, but I thought it was just for crafting into water coating for ranged weapons??

How do you use watermoss? It's not slinger ammo, right? I don't really get how anything besides hitting things in the face with my hammer works sometimes.

I've been trying to use the environment to get on top of it, but no luck. I'll keep at it.

Tried to upgrade my Aqua Messer to level II but looks like a mineral for it isn't obtainable yet.

You don't even need to ride it. Just getting above means he can't hit you so when you jump down and attack you're getting a free safe hit in and then you can run away. In a fight like that where he KOs you in 2 hits I'll take all the free safe hits I can. Also when he's first turning into fire mode he stands still for a while and you can usually get a couple of safe attacks into his face before he sets you on fire.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 01, 2018, 05:43:33 PM
Getting close, got him limping but then manage to do something stupid.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: hungrynoob on February 01, 2018, 07:33:03 PM
Played the original MH on PS2 but haven't touched the series since then. Picked this up partly from the nostalgia, partly from the hype and partly because PSN had that 10 percent off code thing so I could get the digital deluxe for about the price of the vanillla version. Was going to go stabby stabby with dual blades but changed at the last second to insect glaive on a whim. REALLY glad I did since the aerial stuff with the glaive is so damn fun. There's something very satisfying about doing a reverse juggle (combos keep ME in the air over the mark) then landing on the monsters back to get the Mount state and continuing the onslaught. Also, sending my bug in and having it extract buffs is boss

Did you play on the ps2 EU servers for MH? If you did I probably know you.

Tried anjanath fo the first time, hes a nimble fucker for a big cunt. Only problem is, his flamethrower was OHKO'ing me and i got sniped 3 times. rip

Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 01, 2018, 08:45:13 PM
I got Anjanath near death. Ratholos helped mess him up a bit, then I still died.

Fuuuck.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on February 01, 2018, 08:49:20 PM
Yeah in the story mode it's scripted so if you do things right Ratholos will fuck him up some.

Have you tried using an SoS flare and getting some MP help?
Have you tried using traps? I haven't with him specifically but I've used traps and setting a paralyze trap down and having him run to you give you like 15 seconds of free hits while he's paralyzed.

Also, if any time you're near death don't risk it, just run and climb something so you can't get it for a few secs and heal up.

What time are you going to sleep tonight? I'm having dinner with a friend at 7pm PST and probably be back around 9:30pm PST. I can jump on and co-op it with you if it's not too late.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 01, 2018, 11:34:19 PM
Success! Had my daughter cheering me on, too.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Momo on February 02, 2018, 01:57:26 AM
okay boys, im going to knock off all the timed missions I can this weekend, since some of them will only be up this week
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Freyj on February 02, 2018, 09:33:06 AM
Series finally feels right to me after 3 or 4 attempts to get into it. Ducking and weaving charged bow shots is a blast.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Fortus on February 02, 2018, 08:50:08 PM
Did you play on the ps2 EU servers for MH? If you did I probably know you.

Tried anjanath fo the first time, hes a nimble fucker for a big cunt. Only problem is, his flamethrower was OHKO'ing me and i got sniped 3 times. rip

Never bought the HD/ethernet thing for my og PS2 so I never experienced the multiplayer aspect. Thought about getting it for PSP when it blew up to be a phenomenon but tales about having to cramp your hand up in the 'claw' to play put a damper on that. My loss of course but it's nice to be hunting again
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 02, 2018, 09:18:32 PM
I played a bit of MH online on the PS2. I got one of those online modems for like $10 on clearance at Gamestop. I think I actually bought it with Monster Hunter. 
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Tasty on February 02, 2018, 09:19:25 PM
Did you play on the ps2 EU servers for MH? If you did I probably know you.

Tried anjanath fo the first time, hes a nimble fucker for a big cunt. Only problem is, his flamethrower was OHKO'ing me and i got sniped 3 times. rip

Never bought the HD/ethernet thing for my og PS2 so I never experienced the multiplayer aspect. Thought about getting it for PSP when it blew up to be a phenomenon but tales about having to cramp your hand up in the 'claw' to play put a damper on that. My loss of course but it's nice to be hunting again

Tri and 3 Ultimate on Wii U had online multiplayer and Pro Controller support just fyi.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 02, 2018, 11:35:26 PM
That thing where a monster can just leave the area after you've been chasing it across the map beating on it for 20 minutes? Yeah, fuck everyone who had anything to do with this time-wasting piece of shit.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on February 03, 2018, 01:21:06 AM
That thing where a monster can just leave the area after you've been chasing it across the map beating on it for 20 minutes? Yeah, fuck everyone who had anything to do with this time-wasting piece of shit.

I thought they don’t replenish their health though so it’s no big deal? Especially cause the scoutflies track them.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 03, 2018, 01:53:43 AM
they leave the map entirely
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on February 03, 2018, 02:30:41 AM
wtf

I didn't know that was a thing that can happen. And that's with a quest monster? Not like just some monster you ran across in expedition mode? Seems kinda bullshit for a quest monster to do that.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on February 03, 2018, 04:40:01 AM
The Tobi-Kadachi outfit for the cat is ridiculously cute
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: hungrynoob on February 03, 2018, 06:05:40 AM
I played a bit of MH online on the PS2. I got one of those online modems for like $10 on clearance at Gamestop. I think I actually bought it with Monster Hunter.

There was this wireless router thing for the xbox/ps2 in a pc store for like 70 pound and I only had 25 pound so at the age of like 14 i spent 7 hours in the guys pc store annoying the fuck out of him until I got a 45 pound discount.

:D
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 03, 2018, 07:44:49 AM
wtf

I didn't know that was a thing that can happen. And that's with a quest monster? Not like just some monster you ran across in expedition mode? Seems kinda bullshit for a quest monster to do that.

Expedition mode. They tell you there's no time limits in expedition mode, but if the monsters can leave that's pretty much a time limit.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Freyj on February 03, 2018, 11:08:56 AM
wtf

I didn't know that was a thing that can happen. And that's with a quest monster? Not like just some monster you ran across in expedition mode? Seems kinda bullshit for a quest monster to do that.

Expedition mode. They tell you there's no time limits in expedition mode, but if the monsters can leave that's pretty much a time limit.

Just did my first one: the tutorial tells you that monsters will depart the field after a set time limit, but it’s shitty if there’s no way to know what that is.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: paprikastaude on February 03, 2018, 11:36:52 AM
There's a notification if a monster is about to leave.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on February 03, 2018, 12:21:51 PM
I don't get the point of expedition mode and I never do it. The only thing it seems useful for is finding camp sites for fast travel across the map but the maps aren't so big that you need more than like 2 camps.

I pretty much don't get the point of doing anything other than investigations (besides MSQ which you have to for advancing; or specific quests for unique quest rewards) since investigations give like 2-3x monster parts and besides monster parts, what else do you really need in this game? You can grab most of the flora and mining stuff just as you run around on hunting quests.
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Post by: Fortus on February 03, 2018, 12:44:52 PM
Expedition mode is great for pounding out Bounties to get Armor Spheres. Also, it gives me a chance to load up on monster intel by collecting footprints, spit etc which leads to Investigations which you can then turn into quests for good rewards. I'm currently doing mostly Expedition stuff to get upgrades for my armor and leveling my scoutflies for the various big mons so I can immmediately get their track when I do actual quests. Of course I'm still only in Ancient Forest so ymmv

Tri and 3 Ultimate on Wii U had online multiplayer and Pro Controller support just fyi.

Oh I know. There's also that PC offshoot but until I started playing World I had no real investment in the series
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on February 03, 2018, 01:34:43 PM
But it's easy to get tons of tracks when you're on actual hunts. Also you get so many armor spheres just passively from doing bounties while you're on hunts/investigations. Idk, I'm on Coral Sea now and I've never needed to do an expedition outside story and I kinda dislike when I have to do them in the story because it's always "find a campsite" and I have no idea where they are and run around like an idiot for a while.

However, I get that some people dig the non-mission, non-timer gameplay of expeditions to just go around doing what they want. I'm not a big survival game fan, so I prefer just fight mission challenges.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Freyj on February 03, 2018, 03:11:53 PM
I wish missions were organic and the entire game was expedition mode honestly.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Fortus on February 03, 2018, 04:29:34 PM
However, I get that some people dig the non-mission, non-timer gameplay of expeditions to just go around doing what they want. I'm not a big survival game fan, so I prefer just fight mission challenges.

Basically this. I enjoy poking around in the nooks and crannies of a world. If there's a timer running I feel constrained in doing that, shackled to the clock
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on February 03, 2018, 08:47:20 PM
Did a couple missions with Archie. He helped me out with his bow skills and I got the Horizon DLC cat outfit yay. Took down balloon bat Paolumu, I was playing 4p and he gave everyone a lot of trouble. Not that hard but moves a lot and doesn't have a lot of sitting still recovery frames where you get easy hits in with slow weapons. Then did a Rathian solo, that was pretty tough despite the only 4 star difficulty of the optional quest. Dude hits hard and I guess his tail is poison so lotta dodging and hitting in the face. Has a lot of HP too. Took me like 30 mins. Then went down to the area after the Coral Sea and fought Radaboon. That was pretty fun. I feel like certain enemies match well with certain weapon types. With my hammer, but slow monsters are the most fun like this guy and Barrathos. I bet Dragons are more fun with bladed weapons severing tails and stuff. I think once I get to high rank I'll try to find a 2nd weapon type that I like.

Next mission is Leganias or something. I'm still just rocking a tier 3 Agajanth fire hammer. All the tier 4 stuff still has at least one or two mats that are ??? so I'm not sure if I'm supposed to be rocking a tier 4 weapon by now or not. Feels like maybe I'm not doing enough damage, so I might need to faq it and grind parts a bit soon. Also my weapon element being fire kinda sucks because a lot of the enemies I fight like Rathian are fire breathing dragons so I'm probably doing even less damage there. Oh well. Game is fun.

Oh and I figured out how to capture monsters, use the capture net and fish! So now I think I've got most of the systems down although I just unlocked the trailrider safari and I have no idea what that is.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: chronovore on February 04, 2018, 02:52:38 AM
https://twitter.com/otakapin_toybox/status/959783236929863687
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on February 04, 2018, 06:07:35 PM
Was reading a thread on Era about whether XX should be localized. For me, as someone whose tried to get into MH every 5 years or so but never made it far, I can't go back to a MH without Scoutflies. Like the convenience of auto-tracking and ease of gathering/crafting is way too efficient. While I'd like to play XX for the 90+ monsters in it, I don't think I'd make it more than an hour without scoutflies. Hoping instead they just keep adding expansions/DLC to MHW to get the monster count up so I can enjoy most of those 90 monsters with MHW gameplay.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: archie4208 on February 04, 2018, 06:29:52 PM
I'd buy XX if only so I can play it in bed. 
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Post by: Tasty on February 04, 2018, 06:39:32 PM
Was reading a thread on Era about whether XX should be localized. For me, as someone whose tried to get into MH every 5 years or so but never made it far, I can't go back to a MH without Scoutflies. Like the convenience of auto-tracking and ease of gathering/crafting is way too efficient. While I'd like to play XX for the 90+ monsters in it, I don't think I'd make it more than an hour without scoutflies. Hoping instead they just keep adding expansions/DLC to MHW to get the monster count up so I can enjoy most of those 90 monsters with MHW gameplay.

:thinking

The zone segmentation of prior games and paintball are kinda the same thing right?

Also, I believe in you bebps, you can do or play anything you put your mind to. ;)
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Post by: Bebpo on February 04, 2018, 07:00:00 PM
It's not a zone vs open world thing. That's not a big issue either way. The scoutflies are just integrated everywhere in MHW and it's the biggest QoL bit in the game. It basically changes how everything flows in MH. At first I was worried it'd be a dumbed down beginners thing, but it's just a much more enjoyable way to do everything that isn't the fighting.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Fortus on February 05, 2018, 12:06:16 AM
So...Anjajath...
Didn't think his flame breath would SHOOT THROUGH A HUGE TREE TRUNK. Die and learn  :'( Nice to have three strikes per quest I suppose
His tail severed, limping badly with the skull thing orbiting his mini-map icon I eventually had him on the ropes. I chased him yet again knowing he couldn't last much longer...and neither could the clock. I ran out of time  :-[
On the plus side I got to harvest the tail and the hunt reinforced the importance of traps but I can't help but feel a bit blue-balled. I need to up my game if I'm going to solo the big guns
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: hungrynoob on February 05, 2018, 11:14:32 AM
It's not a zone vs open world thing. That's not a big issue either way. The scoutflies are just integrated everywhere in MHW and it's the biggest QoL bit in the game. It basically changes how everything flows in MH. At first I was worried it'd be a dumbed down beginners thing, but it's just a much more enjoyable way to do everything that isn't the fighting.

i would say it annoys me how gathering is a little too easy tbh.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: paprikastaude on February 05, 2018, 11:31:44 AM
Wild cats just helped me and put a stranglehold on Rathalos  :leon
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: hungrynoob on February 05, 2018, 01:25:04 PM
a few times during solo questing, i get a green chat msg symbol top right of my screen with the sound that plays like i got a msg, but i dont know where to find/open it, nothing in chatbox.
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Post by: Bebpo on February 05, 2018, 01:35:02 PM
Is that different than the pop up when someone sends you their guildcard? I get that sometimes and if they keep sending it I'll just have to go to guild cards and accept so the notification stops.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: hungrynoob on February 05, 2018, 01:41:53 PM
i havent played with anyone yet, and havent recieved any guild cards.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on February 05, 2018, 02:07:52 PM
Are you part of an online session though? Aka you’re in a lobby with other people?
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Post by: hungrynoob on February 05, 2018, 04:26:23 PM
Nope.
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Post by: hungrynoob on February 05, 2018, 04:53:06 PM
side notel tried the bow which was always my sub class, how op it is now.
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Post by: Bebpo on February 05, 2018, 05:28:53 PM
Bow seems like the go to ranged weapon. I mean ranged seems easier since you can just stay away and shoot, but I guess it takes longer since you’re doing less damage than melee.

Nope.

Yeah, no idea then.
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Post by: hungrynoob on February 05, 2018, 05:48:08 PM
I dunno my dual swords dont come close to the dps my bow can hit out.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on February 06, 2018, 12:08:25 AM
It's kind of interesting how organic the fights in MH are. I googled around last night to see if there were guides to taking out some of the tougher enemies, similar to like boss guides in FF14, but instead the youtube "guides" for monster hunter are like "uh, hit them on their head or tail and don't die", because most of the fights are just making use of what's around in the environment while dodging and hitting on the head or tail and not dying!
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Post by: kingv on February 06, 2018, 12:09:32 AM
That Toba kodachi pretty much fucked me up.

I sent an sos and had three dudes and still fainted twice.
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Post by: Freyj on February 06, 2018, 12:20:14 AM
Landed three, tier 3 fully charged Great Sword overhead swings against Tobi Kadachi. Such a rush from good execution in this game.

Really preferring Great Sword to Bow recently. I still keep my bows upgraded, but not nearly as fun as the risk / reward of Great Sword. Likewise with Long Sword, the Dragoon jump is fun but has nothing damage wise on GS.
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Post by: Tasty on February 06, 2018, 12:32:58 AM
Nothing is better than bringing down a lvl3 GS swing on a monster's face and immediately having the "Quest complete!" dialog pop up.

That feeling is better than some of my orgasms.
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Post by: Bebpo on February 06, 2018, 02:02:53 AM
Man, my hammer play feels a lot less fun than some of that. I think I need to change weapons once I hit high rank.
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Post by: archie4208 on February 06, 2018, 02:31:57 AM
Bow seems like the go to ranged weapon. I mean ranged seems easier since you can just stay away and shoot, but I guess it takes longer since you’re doing less damage than melee.

Nope.

Yeah, no idea then.
I'm getting better times on bow than any other weapon I've done so far.  :yeshrug

I did a 9:49 Nergigante, and that's without cheesing it like this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HE4ZIAUhPE
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Post by: Bebpo on February 06, 2018, 02:35:01 AM
Having trouble on the special arena quest #1 since they're all weapons I don't use and Pukei Pukei is surprisingly a pain in the ass out of the low level monster set because of the poison and tongue swipe.

Gonna try the bow and see how it goes. Didn't do so well with Katana and had to abandon. Doing it solo cause arena quests can't use flare and no one joins since no one is in the gathering hall.
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Post by: Bebpo on February 06, 2018, 02:47:00 AM
Did ok for a while with bow but died. Yeah I need a 2p coop buddy, solo Pukei Pukei pissing me fucking off because he'll never leave me alone and I have no time to heal from the poison when I get hit. Wish I had my cat buddy :(
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Post by: Bebpo on February 06, 2018, 02:56:24 AM
Ok, beat it after way too many deaths with a bow. I really like the bow though, was a good test run. Just was a frustrating arena single player since the 2 enemies never let off.
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Post by: Bebpo on February 06, 2018, 03:34:23 AM
Messed around with a bunch of weapons in training mode. Learned a whole lot of new combos for my hammer which was super helpful. I should have gone to the training area before :o

I like the standard sword and shield, the lunge up in the sky -> crashing down attack seems like it'd be satisfying to do on a monster's head.
Dual blades wasn't for me.
Great sword is alright but too slow for me (feels even slower than the hammer)
In training mode I realized I didn't know you had to hit triangle to USE COATING which probably would've helped during Special Challenge #1 fight ><

Pretty impressed with the depth of the movelist that 15 hours in I'm just starting to get the hang of my first weapon.
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Post by: hungrynoob on February 06, 2018, 05:24:52 AM
if youre using charge shot on bow ditch it for continual combo shots as higher dps.
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Post by: kingv on February 06, 2018, 09:18:14 AM
What is costing?

I like the game but the systems are definitely obtuse.
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Post by: Bebpo on February 06, 2018, 02:48:05 PM
Yeah, in the challenge fight I did with the bow I just didn't have time to aim because the 2 enemies were always in my face so I was using non-aiming O attack combos up close in their faces while dodging.

Coating from what I understood in training mode is how you use the special ammo? You hit triangle and there's an animation of the character hitting the arrows? I didn't know or use that in my fight so I guess I wasn't using any of the special ammo or something which probably made it take longer/harder.
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Post by: hungrynoob on February 06, 2018, 03:26:19 PM
Im on xbox but i think the controls will be the same. The triple circle is youre quick shots x2 and final is a full charge arc shot which basically deals impact damage with a rain of stoned above. I quite like that move because done well you can have 3 rockfalls of impact damage that completely immobilizes the monster. What I was referring to was your R2 shot, normally you hold it to charge, but if you just tap R2 you can continuously fire until your stamina drains, thats where the dps is.

coatings are bascially arrow coatings aye, but nothing fansy really. Power self explanatory, close range is your infinite arrow, and the rest are generally status effects. There is an optimal distance to be, you want your reticule to be the darkest red possible for the highest damage.
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 06, 2018, 03:26:32 PM
That Horizon ZD quest was really stupid.
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Post by: Freyj on February 06, 2018, 10:11:26 PM
Got Anjanath on my first attempt, but a lot of close calls. I’d heard about the Fire one shotting so I played it really safe when his neck started glowing until he did the main breath attack. He jumped down into this vine trampoline area and missed me with a flamethrower attack by inches (hit boxes are way off in this game sometimes so I was screaming) while I was fighting the moving floor. I thought Rathalos was going to fuck me up during the Quest Complete cutscene. He was right on top of me, hit me and poisoned me.

Great fight.
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Post by: Bebpo on February 06, 2018, 10:59:05 PM
Monster Hunter - all fun and games until you die 20 mins into a fight to some bs attack and fail the quest and are like fuck that I'm out -_-

Not sure if I'm gonna be game for high rank. Doesn't help that all these monsters are goddamn aggressive and kill you in 2-3 hits and hardly ever give you a second to use a potion.
Oh well, time to give Legiana another try...
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Post by: Bebpo on February 06, 2018, 11:48:55 PM
Alright, kicked his ass the next time. Barely took any damage and kept hammering him. Fight is still long as fuck with all four of the areas it goes to. Took me 23 mins still. Also the first mission I've noticed for some reason SoS isn't allowed? (but it lets you do up to 4p at the start? Makes no sense) So couldn't get any help even if I wanted.

I kinda hate the last area of the fight because it's so small, it's where I died the last time because camera/cornered. But I do like the 2 vents gimmick with the glider mantle. Pretty neat to keep doing super jumps and hitting him in the air. Managed to break his wings so he couldn't fly which made the last bit pretty easy caused he was basically fucked and just running back and forth doing head first slides.

So ok, I'll admit that despite it being annoying dying in this game in long fights, it sure is satisfying to kick the monsters ass in long epic fights.

Also I haven't really been grinding at all besides getting a tier 3 weapon, so my armor is all over the place which probably makes it a bit tougher.
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Post by: Bebpo on February 07, 2018, 12:22:14 AM
Was completely unprepared but beat an Ogoradon. Intense fight.
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Post by: thisismyusername on February 07, 2018, 06:04:57 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/AROoABP.jpg)
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 07, 2018, 11:32:04 PM
I see he collected all the salt I've been spilling over this game
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Post by: Bebpo on February 08, 2018, 01:49:13 AM
So I'm on the final bosses of low rank and I keep getting one shotted and it's no fun.

Fighting Diablos first and he has the same fucking issue I have with Pukei where if I get hit once I'll get knocked down and then he'll ram me while I'm getting up off the ground and kill me. So I can survive 2 hits but since I can't fucking get up after getting hit once it's essentially a one shot any time he touches me. This is...annoying. What am I supposed to do to avoid getting hit while getting up? I've tried mashing X to roll as soon as I can and I still get hit during the roll and die. :(

Anyhow I probably need to up my gear. The best gear set I can get right now has 150 armor Ogodaron, I have 109 armor currently.
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Post by: Bebpo on February 08, 2018, 02:51:45 AM
BEAT DIABLOS FUCKER

I learned all his attack motions and through trial & error a bit figure out when I could get 1-3 swings of my hammer in after most of them. So I'd do a few hits and then roll out of the way, wait for his next attack, dodge, go in for 1-3 hits, etc... also using environment as much as possible and any stuns I can. I thought I was doing ok, blew through so many healing items but hadn't fainted. Then the 10 mins remaining message popped and I was like shit shit shit shit as Diablos had only just started limping a bit before that. So at that point I just said fuck it, DO OR DIE TIME and I started going in with non-stopped charge hammer blows trying to dodge and stick to his face and luckily I kept smacking him and only got hit once and recovered. Killed him in about 4 mins of that all attack frenzy. Total time was 44 mins.

Got a body armor piece so DEF is up to 123 with +8 fire def which should help for Rathalos. Problem is that he's a fire dragon and my rarity 3 hammer with 780 attack I've been using on all these guys is Ajangath fire element, so it'll probably do bad damage against him. Considering I expect it to take like 44 mins as well, I need to gear up on my weapon before the fight. Time to fight Jura-whatever-water dino a bunch of times and build up my rarity 4 aqua hammer. It only does 680 damage but has like 230 water as well and he'll probably be weak against water. So yeah, gonna grind out that hammer next time and then go for Rathalos.

The problem with Diablos, besides just being a prick is that if you're in his face you need to roll to get out before he does a charge but if you roll a direction he is charging you get hit. Not sure if there's a safe method like roll towards his tail or something. I just tried to roll out early enough to dodge the charge. Also got the hang of dodging while getting up and roll roll roll quickly to gtfo before he charges into where you were knocked down.
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Post by: Bebpo on February 08, 2018, 03:10:11 AM
Ok, so I just watched a MH4U hammer video of G2star Diablos to see how he was in the previous game and wtf, the G2star Diablos in 4U looks like a joke compared to the Low Rank 5star Diablos in MHW. 4U Diablos looks slower, fewer attacks, much smaller body hit range (feels like MHW diablos attack hitbox of his body is huge and any part touches you bam 50% damage and knock down), and probably cause the armor the guy in the video has but even when he got hit he'd only take like 25% damage or something whereas MHW does 50% damage each.

I'm getting the feeling watching old MH vids that the monsters in MHW are way more aggressive and constantly in your face with huge attack hitboxes.
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Post by: Bebpo on February 08, 2018, 03:23:46 AM

Diablos in MHW

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwFX9I69uss
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So watching this dude do the fight in MHW, uh I seriously need to start grinding armor. This guy gets hit so many fucking times. I would've been dead about 20 times if this was me. He just shrugs off attacks as they only do about 25% or less damage so he can be way more reckless, I watch this and the hits that did like 50-75% of my life bar and turn it into a I need to run away and heal or die situation are no big deal for this guy. Yeah, having good armor sure would make these fights a lot easier! Also note to self: need some pitfall traps and drop poison clouds when monster is trapped.

I did learn about the hitting the back of his feet a couple times when he digs down each time. Didn't know there was an opening there and that extra damage adds up.

Diablos in MH4U

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn1fzYWv2po
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Man, MHW plays so different than MHW4U. Feels like the old games were straight up skill boss fights. MHW is that but it's like 50% about using the environment abilities in each location to get extra damage/openings in. Now I think I actually would be down to play XX since the combat seems so different. Just don't want to bother with all the paintball/crafting/gathering off the old games :|
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Post by: paprikastaude on February 08, 2018, 09:27:16 AM
Almost took an hour each for the elders at the end...  :whew The final boss in particular has a really bad pattern for GS and I didn't have the material for a proper LS.
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Post by: Bebpo on February 08, 2018, 03:00:23 PM
Congrats on clearing the main game!

I googled what Rathalos is weak to in order to avoid another 44 min fight and saw he's weak to Dragon/Thunder. There's a Dragonbone Smasher II hammer that needs some monster bone+ which apparently is easiest to get from Ogoradon, and Thunder is from Great Ghirros which is the only monster I still haven't fought since the MSQ didn't give me a quest to fight it. Probably will fight Ghirros first since I haven't done it, but if I don't have the mats will grind Ogoradon investigations and make that Dragonbone hammer.

I also need a lot of Dragonite Ore? I get it very rarely but dunno how to get a bunch of it?
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Post by: paprikastaude on February 08, 2018, 04:23:32 PM
These materials will be common in high rank.
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Post by: Bebpo on February 08, 2018, 04:40:09 PM
Yeah but I need them now to make a better hammer for Rathalos to get to high rank  :lol
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Post by: Dickie Dee on February 08, 2018, 07:17:00 PM
Just got this a couple of days ago and now I'm legit mad I won't get the Horizon Palico equipment. It just ended and I'm only rank 5  :maf
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Post by: Huff on February 09, 2018, 09:13:48 AM
Just finished the anganath fight and been grinding some of his set on sos fights

Progressing pretty slowly as it’s my first MH

Think I have most of yal on PSN. But I’m brohuffman if not
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Post by: Freyj on February 09, 2018, 09:18:32 AM
Grinding out Anjanath Fangs gets old, esp when you break his head and none drop.

If you progress the story a little, you’ll open up an npc that does item conversion.
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Post by: Huff on February 09, 2018, 10:30:00 AM
I prob shouldn’t have started grinding so early, but yolo I like having full sets of shit
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Post by: Fortus on February 09, 2018, 12:07:57 PM
Got to Rotten Vale and HR 8 finally. Is there a Bore Squad on PS4? Would like to exchange Guild Cards so I can send your minions on Safari  :D
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Post by: Svejk on February 09, 2018, 12:07:57 PM
Just got this a couple of days ago and now I'm legit mad I won't get the Horizon Palico equipment. It just ended and I'm only rank 5  :maf
Yeah, I'm kinda pissed about that too.  dufuq, Capcom. 
I just picked this up today, but I'm not gonna even be able to jump on it till I finish Horizon.  Currently nearing the end of it.  I'm the type that needs to finish a game before moving to another.  :yeshrug
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Post by: Bebpo on February 10, 2018, 02:25:39 AM
Grinding grinding grinding. Got a thunder hammer, a dragon bone hammer and working on an ice hammer. Also some more armor.

Almost ready for Rathalos!
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Post by: Bebpo on February 10, 2018, 04:39:09 AM
Well I totally overkill grinded. When I fought Diablos I had 109 DEF and was using a weapon that did like 1 star damage to him. By the time I tried Rathalos I had 185 DEF and a weapon that was 3 star damage to him with like 900 atk power.

Rathalos was pretty easy fight with my hammer. The hardest part was just when he's in the air I couldn't hit him so I'd just run around a lot. Once he got grounded he kinda would sit with his head out for a bit so I'd knock him in the face a bunch with my hammer and he'd react by trying to breathe fire but I'd just roll under him a bit and move back out and get back hammering his face. Then dodge when he's in the air doing divebombs until he's back down again. Got hit a few times, but with that much armor (+12 fire DEF as well) it wasn't a big deal. My Dragonbone Hammer II had good knockdown/stunning power, kept knocking him back and down.

HR10 now running a set that's 3 piece Diablos, 2 piece Ogodoran and switching between 880+210 Thunder Hammer 2 and 666+310 Dragon Bone II and + 880 + 210 Fire Hammer. Probably will grind Legania a bit more to get the last parts to run an Ice Hammer as well. That way I'm pretty much set for all monsters between the different elements.

Gonna run the HR10 MSQ tomorrow, though I assume it's just another event kinda thing. Excited to start High Rank after!


One thing I've noticed playing MP 4p, people are friggen precise these days. They cut off each body part piece by piece and then trap and capture each monster with precision. Still a lot of good fights grinding the last 4 or so monsters in Low Rank. Doing Diablos again with 4 players who know what they're doing is a whole different experience than the first time Diablos solo. Almost feel bad for Diablos! Died so quickly and continuous beat down ;_;
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Post by: Bebpo on February 10, 2018, 04:52:54 AM
Also, while I dig MH and don't mind grinding monsters because they are fun to fight, what I don't dig is having to grind mining ores or small monsters for parts for gear/weapon upgrades. That shit is tedious time waster stuff of RNG and waiting for respawns. Would like it better if every part was just from beating monsters.
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Post by: Bebpo on February 10, 2018, 05:06:16 AM
Got to Rotten Vale and HR 8 finally. Is there a Bore Squad on PS4? Would like to exchange Guild Cards so I can send your minions on Safari  :D

Yeah, add me on psn! Bebpo

I’m trying to slowly get everyone in the same squad. It’s hard because we need to be online in the game at the same time for me to add someone to the squad.
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Post by: paprikastaude on February 10, 2018, 06:08:26 AM
Rathalos was pretty easy fight with my hammer. The hardest part was just when he's in the air I couldn't hit him so I'd just run around a lot.

flash pods for aynthing that flies (away)
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Post by: Fortus on February 10, 2018, 10:05:15 AM
Also, while I dig MH and don't mind grinding monsters because they are fun to fight, what I don't dig is having to grind mining ores or small monsters for parts for gear/weapon upgrades. That shit is tedious time waster stuff of RNG and waiting for respawns. Would like it better if every part was just from beating monsters.

You should be sending Safaris out for that stuff. Talk to your Housekeeper to set them up. It's one of the reason I like exchanging Guild Cards. You won't be drowning in mats from them but it's basically free stuff coming in while you're questing. Will add you when I get on later today
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Post by: Bebpo on February 10, 2018, 11:05:26 AM
Oh ok, I've had safaris available for a while now but haven't figure out where to set them up.

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Post by: Freyj on February 10, 2018, 11:58:17 AM
So the melding npc is extremely disappointing. First of all, the pages of potions and traps and ammo are useless. That stuff is easy to come by. As to the Monster parts: there’s only Plates (okay I guess) and Gems (do these exist outside melding?). So basically, you’re still stuck grinding for the annoying shit like Fangs and Sacs and Tails.

Not to mention that anything worthwhile takes special items only that are rewards from limited bounties (yay, more grinding!). I might as well just say fuck it and go grind investigations with silver and gold rewards instead.

Very much a missed opportunity to cut down on the bullshit: every item should be meldable once obtained and valued with MP in such a way that prevents turning in lots of junk for the good shit (i.e. I should be able to turn 4 Anjanath Pelt in for 1 Anjanath Fang.

Or just don’t have this npc and have the item drop process be less obtuse. Having monsters drop items mid fight that need to be picked up and don’t automatically go in your inventory is terrible. Tails I can understand because it’s very noticeable and they have to be carved. If I break an Anjanath’s head that should guarantee X Fangs by the end of the quest.
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Post by: Bebpo on February 10, 2018, 12:26:23 PM
That is my experience too with melding. Can't make anything useful.

Btw, where do I find Ivy? I've never been able to make pitfall traps because I need ivy and never ran across it in any of the maps? Been making some shock traps though. I've never been able to properly capture anything in this game because I am dumb, so I'm gonna work on that. My problem is I keep forgetting that to tranq a low HP enemy you have to trap them first. But since you can only bring 1 shock trap into a fight that means I have to save it until I think I can finish the monster and then trap -> tranq and hopefully that works? Idk, will try.
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Post by: Fortus on February 10, 2018, 12:32:04 PM
For capturing wait until they are near dead and have gone back to their lair to 'sleep'. Set the trap next to them but be sure to stand near their head first. Reason being tranq bomb only works if you actually hit their head with it. I'd throw half a dozen tranq bombs at a mob only to have them recover from the trap. If you don't hit their head dead on it's a waste

Have to agree with Freyj about the bits that fall off during a fight being annoying. Why can't my Palico scoop them up for god's sake?
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Post by: Bebpo on February 10, 2018, 12:32:14 PM
btw, this is my team at the end of low rank

(https://i.imgur.com/3swmW6rh.jpg)
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Post by: paprikastaude on February 10, 2018, 01:29:45 PM
http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/02/09/monster-hunter-world-is-now-the-fastest-selling-game-in-capcoms-history

 :whoo
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Post by: CatsCatsCats on February 10, 2018, 06:34:21 PM
Getting ready to dive into this game with no previous MH knowledge
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 10, 2018, 09:43:12 PM
All right, I've given this game many a chance, tried having an open mind and just gritting my teeth after getting mad over it before, but I think I'm done. I was doing the mission where I have to spot a Girros and then kill a Radobaan, which is counted as an expedition mission, and the motherfucking Radobaan left right as I was about to kill him. This is a story mission, not a free roam. I have to pass it to advance. Either time the fucking hunt at 50 min like a normal mission or don't allow it to leave.  I broke every part that bastard had that could be broken, he's barely moving, and right as I'm about to put the boots to him he just disappears because it hit that arbitrary time. I mean, he "left." Then, as if the game is rubbing it in my face, a fully healthy one pops up and appears right where he was lying. There's no defending that, it's just pure time-wasting trash game design.
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Post by: CatsCatsCats on February 10, 2018, 09:48:53 PM
So far pretty fun, not really first timer friendly, I have no idea how much I should care about collecting various shit or the best way to spend the various shits and currencies. I’m assuming I’ll figure it out as I go or more likely end up researching things I don’t figure out online
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Post by: Bebpo on February 10, 2018, 09:50:54 PM
All right, I've given this game many a chance, tried having an open mind and just gritting my teeth after getting mad over it before, but I think I'm done. I was doing the mission where I have to spot a Girros and then kill a Radobaan, which is counted as an expedition mission, and the motherfucking Radobaan left right as I was about to kill him. This is a story mission, not a free roam. I have to pass it to advance. Either time the fucking hunt at 50 min like a normal mission or don't allow it to leave.  I broke every part that bastard had that could be broken, he's barely moving, and right as I'm about to put the boots to him he just disappears because it hit that arbitrary time. I mean, he "left." Then, as if the game is rubbing it in my face, a fully healthy one pops up and appears right where he was lying. There's no defending that, it's just pure time-wasting trash game design.

Yeah, that’s bullshit but can you now take the fight as an optional timer quest?
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 10, 2018, 09:59:09 PM
Yeah, but I no longer have the desire. It's time to put the game away when all you can do while you're playing it is think about all the other games you could be playing instead.

This game is like hooking up with some random girl at the county fair. Kinda pretty in the dark, seems fun at first, but as the night wears on you realize she's a schizophrenic who cuts herself
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Post by: CatsCatsCats on February 11, 2018, 12:27:42 PM
You can get multiple kitties? Is there like a build/strategy that’s primarily kitty based, cuz...
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Post by: Bebpo on February 11, 2018, 12:47:53 PM
Started High Rank, Pukei Pukei seemed the same as always the couple times I fought him? I read that you need to do high rank expeditions now and discover the monsters to get their quests, so gonna do that next. Working on my high rank Pukei armor set to have more entry level high rank gear. I like how the alpha versions have some legit skills this time in high rank, don't have any decorations yet so no point in beta versions.

My housekeeper doesn't have tailrider safari option? I must have missed an NPC or something, need to go look for that.
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Post by: Fortus on February 11, 2018, 04:38:47 PM
Bebpo you may need to talk to the Lynian Researcher first who was in the 3rd Fleet hub.
Got to HR 9 now. My gear is a bit of a hodge podge atm. Trying to keep the resists up without sacrificing Defense. Have two pieces with Divine Blessing which seems to proc rather frequently and shaves off 30 percent of damage taken
How do we meet in game? There's no 'Join Friend's Hub' option that I saw in the menus which is a little disappointing
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Post by: Bebpo on February 11, 2018, 07:50:50 PM
Yeah, basically if you see someone playing you can join their session (lobby) and to actually see each other you have to go to the gathering hall which no one ever does.
Anyhow if you're in their session they can invite you to their squad and/or send guild cards.

At the start when you pick your lobby, you can pick your squad's lobby. This will be a lobby that only your squad is in. The problem is that unless your squad has like 50-200 people in it, there's a good chance whenever you join a squad session you're going to be the only person there which doesn't help because the game is geared to MP.

So we have a squad, but it's essentially useless and besides trading guild cards so we can keep track of each other's progress and borrow each other's cats, the best thing to do is if you go online and see any of your friends playing, join their session.

Then even when you're in the same session, actually playing together means:

1. One person has to post a quest
2. The other person has to see that quest is posted and goes to join quest and finds it
3. And this can't be a story quest where one person hasn't seen all the cutscenes
4. And this has to be a quest that both people are high enough rank to take it on

Whereas if you just want to play with randoms, you either go:

1. Start quest up to 4p, jump in solo and fire SoS = get full team shortly
2. Join SoS and pick from tons of people playing and jump right in

 :idont

Basically the playing with players you know thing only works if you join a big guild like Resetera or something.
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Post by: Bebpo on February 12, 2018, 01:26:58 AM
Found the missing npc and unlocked tailrider wooooo
Also started unlocking more HR monster hunts wooooo
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Post by: chronovore on February 12, 2018, 08:18:45 AM
Just found out, no matter which version I buy, digital or physical, US or JP, it's all got both languages on it. WOOOOOOO~!
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Post by: kingv on February 12, 2018, 11:57:36 AM
Yeah, it doesn’t run great on base xbone.

On the 1X,  there is a performance mode which gets you above 30fps, but eve on that it’s not a full 60fps.
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Post by: Fortus on February 12, 2018, 12:47:23 PM
Kirins suck  :o
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Post by: kingv on February 12, 2018, 01:52:59 PM
After dabbling in a few weapons I decided to go back to manning the insect glaive. Once you understand how the buffs work this thing is a beast.

I was able to take down the Legianas first try with my poison tipped one.

Now it’s time to farm pukei pukei until I can get the next tier of poison and put legianas on farm to complete hi set.

I’m really not looking forward to taking on the Great Girrus because of the “miasma” or whatever they call that yellow poison stuff in the bottom of the rotten vale.
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Post by: stufte on February 12, 2018, 02:00:11 PM
HR 14 right now, can't believe how many hours I've played this game. Just started getting comfortable farming
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Nergigante
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and just beat a
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Black Diablos
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. There is just so much content in this game and just when I think I'm almost at the end of it they throw 10 more monsters at me. Insane.
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Post by: Bebpo on February 13, 2018, 03:24:42 AM
Kirins suck  :o

This is true. 2 was bssssssss. Killed one but died on the other ><
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Post by: archie4208 on February 13, 2018, 05:07:52 AM
HR 14 right now, can't believe how many hours I've played this game. Just started getting comfortable farming
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Nergigante
[close]
and just beat a
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Black Diablos
[close]
. There is just so much content in this game and just when I think I'm almost at the end of it they throw 10 more monsters at me. Insane.
They're only going to throw about 5 more monsters at you.  :doge

The dearth of content compared to prior gens is my only major complaint.  I'm totally willing to give Capcom a pass as it's their first time not recycling PS2 assets.
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Post by: chronovore on February 13, 2018, 07:51:53 AM
Yeah, it doesn’t run great on base xbone.

On the 1X,  there is a performance mode which gets you above 30fps, but eve on that it’s not a full 60fps.

I can imagine the developer meetings, when someone proposes making it work better on the Xbone, and someone brings up the 10 of them that have sold to-date in Japan.

And then all the laughter that ensues.
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Post by: kingv on February 13, 2018, 08:16:34 AM
There goes Tim-San talking about the gaijin system again!
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Post by: Fortus on February 13, 2018, 05:44:13 PM
HR 10 now. Diablos fight was epic. Got carted twice but managed to down it with a minute and twenty seconds left on the timer  :D Had a ton of help from Tailraiders on it. The Bug Trappers pitched in once with a net trap, had a Protector Escort with me for a long while and my Palico rode in on the final clash astride a Kestadon  :lol Definately worth grinding those factions up
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Post by: archie4208 on February 13, 2018, 07:54:41 PM
Trying to do a tempered Teostra and I get one shotted by every single attack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIyUEwd4tMg
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Post by: archie4208 on February 13, 2018, 09:55:30 PM
https://twitter.com/AshFR/status/963249304788918273
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Post by: Bebpo on February 14, 2018, 03:03:03 AM
HR 10 now. Diablos fight was epic. Got carted twice but managed to down it with a minute and twenty seconds left on the timer  :D Had a ton of help from Tailraiders on it. The Bug Trappers pitched in once with a net trap, had a Protector Escort with me for a long while and my Palico rode in on the final clash astride a Kestadon  :lol Definately worth grinding those factions up

Wait, what there are factions you can level up to get cats riding dinos and throwing traps down for you? How do I do this?
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Post by: Fortus on February 14, 2018, 09:52:22 AM
Wait, what there are factions you can level up to get cats riding dinos and throwing traps down for you? How do I do this?

Each zone has a Grimalkyne clan you can befriend. It's fairly straightforward but I'll post a link instead of a wall of text http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-02-06-monster-hunter-world-grimalkynes-doodles-protectors-5937 (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-02-06-monster-hunter-world-grimalkynes-doodles-protectors-5937)
Theoretically you can have another player's Palico (from Guild Card exchange), a Grimalkyne AND a local fauna Tailraider with you on a hunt though I've only managed two helpers at a time
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Post by: stufte on February 15, 2018, 06:23:41 PM
Did a Dragonvale style Pukei Pukei today:

(https://i.imgur.com/veKuIHuh.jpg)
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Post by: Freyj on February 16, 2018, 11:09:40 AM
The lull between finishing low rank and Pink Rathian is kind of a drag. I’m guessing I’m about to go into another lull of repeats immediately following Pink?
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Fortus on February 16, 2018, 03:02:43 PM
Don't be in such a hurry to fight Pink Rathian. He sucks and they intentionally have him path through other mons during the fight. Legiana, Ordo and that 'flash stun' mon will show up during various phases and they almost NEVER turf war him instead making a beeline for you even while Pink Rathian is on your ass  :yuck

Quality work btw Stufte. Pukei is one of my favorite designs in the game
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: kingv on February 16, 2018, 04:32:51 PM
I had enough of a time with regular ass Rathian.

Not sure if it is by design, but if there was a Rathalos on the map that would come defend rathian every time I attacked it.

Luckily I beat it up in expedition so the rathalos left first leaving me to run train on rathian.

Edit: also good work misgendering rathian shitlord.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Freyj on February 16, 2018, 05:18:17 PM
I managed to one shot Pink, very intense fight and she’s super aggressive when she’s pissed. The only thing that really irritated me was Legiana staying on my ass until Pink left the area and the god damn charge, turn, charge, turn, charge shit she does later on.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Dickie Dee on February 16, 2018, 07:00:56 PM
Is there a bore squad/guild - i've read through it a few times but still don't quite understand the process. (MHW Life amirite  :doge )

psn name: Mamacint

Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Fortus on February 16, 2018, 07:27:03 PM
I'll add you on Friends list later tonight Dickie Dee. Would be nice if everyone playing on PS4 could agree to a time this weekend to be on so we can do the clan invite/card swap thing then
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Freyj on February 16, 2018, 08:59:28 PM
Do you need psn+ for the Guild card stuff?
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Svejk on February 17, 2018, 12:38:14 AM
Finally jumped in.  Does the selection sound effect of the character creation screen feel like little minor stabs to anyone else, as they're the same effect they use in Dragon's Dogma ? Capcom be trolling like a muhfucka.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Svejk on February 17, 2018, 10:12:47 AM
Played for about 3 hours last night... only to discover i made my character's chin slightly too long... time to start over.   :snoop
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on February 18, 2018, 02:03:41 PM
Did the HR Anjanath on the way to pink Rathian and...I don't get the drive of HR? Like so far the HR monsters I've fought like Pukei and Anjanath...I can't even tell any difference between Low Rank other than their stats have gone up to match my HR armor/weapon stats, so basically it just feels kinda the same. If they have new moves, I don't really notice them besides Pukei seemed to be able to make a poison smoke cloud which you just move around.

Like yeah, there's new monsters like Beetleguise or whatever, but for the most part HR so far just seems like "go fight all the same monsters again!" and it's...boring? Like in LR I couldn't put the game down because I was excited about each new fight. But now in HR it's still fun because the combat is fun, but much less motivated to keep going. And G Rank expansion would just be the same thing again? Idk, maybe the loop isn't for me all that much.

I thought the idea of HR/G-rank was that the monsters would get all kinds of new attacks and the battles would be fresh again, but for the most part they seem to play out the same in LR/HR so far...

That being said, some of the new monster interactions are pretty cool. In the Anjanath fight seeing:
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Diablos pop out and drag him down through the hole in the dunes to the cave was very cool. Also the Beetleguise fights.
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Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on February 18, 2018, 02:10:30 PM
Also, so far the HR monster fights have actually been way easier than the LR versions because this time I know how to play and am better geared than I was in LR. Like I remember the Anjanath fight in LR was tough the first few times and MP really helped. But first time in HR downed him much quicker no problem and the hits I took weren't as big of a deal. Same with Pukei, hated him on LR with all the poison, but in HR I just stuck to his face and took him out really quick no problem. If the point of HR is to have a "hard mode" version of the fights that's more challenging...it's not really working?

Counter-point is that the new HR-only monsters like Beetleguise are fucking hard from my attempts to fight him in expedition mode.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Freyj on February 18, 2018, 05:10:24 PM
Do Pink Rathian, things pick up a bit but you’ll laugh at the next round of new monsters.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: kingv on February 19, 2018, 09:30:02 AM
I’m getting sort of stuck on the Diablos.

He just does a fuck ton of damage, and I’m not exactly sure how to upgrade my way out of it. I’ve got a full set of Legianas armor, and am working on building an ice weapon.

Since most of the damage he does is physical, do I just need to drop in more armor spheres to get the base number up, or since he Has wings is his damage type fall under “dragon”?

Also, once I have an ice weapon, can you inflict status on a monster, or does it just do more damage? I had a poison glaive before and poisoning was pretty nice.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Svejk on February 19, 2018, 01:25:17 PM
This may be a silly question, but if you put items in your item box, will it show as having the item when crafting gear?  Or do you have to have them on hand in your pouch?  Sorry, newbie here..  Trying to wrap my head around it all.....  And another question...  when gather flora, even when I have item slots open in my pouch, why does it still say a certain item is full when I try to gather it? 
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: paprikastaude on February 19, 2018, 01:30:50 PM
This may be a silly question, but if you put items in your item box, will it show as having the item when crafting gear? Or do you have to have them on hand in your pouch?  Sorry, newbie here..  Trying to wrap my head around it all.....  And another question...  when gather flora, even when I have item slots open in my pouch, why does it still say a certain item is full when I try to gather it?

Yes. And items themselves have max capacity, like you can't have more than 10 blue mushrooms in the pouch (but more in the box).
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Svejk on February 19, 2018, 01:46:15 PM
This may be a silly question, but if you put items in your item box, will it show as having the item when crafting gear? Or do you have to have them on hand in your pouch?  Sorry, newbie here..  Trying to wrap my head around it all.....  And another question...  when gather flora, even when I have item slots open in my pouch, why does it still say a certain item is full when I try to gather it?

Yes. And items themselves have max capacity, like you can't have more than 10 blue mushrooms in the pouch (but more in the box).
Ah ok, good to know.  I'm just use to Horizon, where it just starts a new slot if the item gets full in one.  Thanks for the reply!
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: kingv on February 20, 2018, 12:02:44 PM
Goddamn it. I almost had Diablos down and then some noob got Pwned 3x in a row.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: paprikastaude on February 20, 2018, 12:14:33 PM
Look forward to Diablos + Black Diablos quests  :aah
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on February 20, 2018, 01:59:34 PM
Goddamn it. I almost had Diablos down and then some noob got Pwned 3x in a row.

Yeah, I've had that happen and it's why I do monsters solo the first time, then MP when grinding quick.

Diablos was the hardest fight in LR for me, but that was partly because I learned afterwards I was incredibly undergeared. If you gear up to the stuff right before it and use armor spheres to boost another 30-40 DEF, you can take hits like nothing from Diablos.

Also his hardest attack if you're meleeing around him is his charge imo since he goes from neutral to EVERYTHING IS A HITBOX and if you're right at his legs you'll get run over. Basically just gotta mess around a bit to figure out safe zone/windows. His underground attack is easy to dodge and if you have sonic bombs you can dizzy him and get free hits in. You can also get free hits in when he's digging underground and you're hitting his tail on the way down.

It's probably my favorite fight in LR. Closer to a Devil May Cry boss with slower more visible clues and hard hitting moves. A lot of the other monsters just seem like a bunch of non-stop move spam.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Tasty on February 20, 2018, 02:32:48 PM
Goddamn it. I almost had Diablos down and then some noob got Pwned 3x in a row.

This is why you man up and go solo :ufup
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: hungrynoob on February 20, 2018, 02:33:41 PM
Look forward to Diablos + Black Diablos quests  :aah

if i remember did you used to always kick about in a diablos GS set or kelbi bow set.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: kingv on February 20, 2018, 03:38:16 PM
Goddamn it. I almost had Diablos down and then some noob got Pwned 3x in a row.

Yeah, I've had that happen and it's why I do monsters solo the first time, then MP when grinding quick.

Diablos was the hardest fight in LR for me, but that was partly because I learned afterwards I was incredibly undergeared. If you gear up to the stuff right before it and use armor spheres to boost another 30-40 DEF, you can take hits like nothing from Diablos.

Also his hardest attack if you're meleeing around him is his charge imo since he goes from neutral to EVERYTHING IS A HITBOX and if you're right at his legs you'll get run over. Basically just gotta mess around a bit to figure out safe zone/windows. His underground attack is easy to dodge and if you have sonic bombs you can dizzy him and get free hits in. You can also get free hits in when he's digging underground and you're hitting his tail on the way down.

It's probably my favorite fight in LR. Closer to a Devil May Cry boss with slower more visible clues and hard hitting moves. A lot of the other monsters just seem like a bunch of non-stop move spam.

What’s about the right armor rating to have? I am about 150 or so, across everything I’d guess.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on February 20, 2018, 03:54:33 PM
I fought (and beat) Diablos solo at 109 DEF. It was hard.
By the time I took on the next monster, after grinding gear and armor spheres, I had 185 DEF + food buffs brought it to 195 DEF.

Honestly 150 DEF + food buffs should be fine. You're not like dying in 2 hits are you? I was at 109 DEF. If you can survive 2 hits that gives you time to recover with potions after each hit because even if you get hit again while trying to heal it won't kill you.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Fortus on February 20, 2018, 04:09:01 PM
Kingv switch out the Legiana belt for the Lumu Coil. Paired with the Legiana helm it will give you 2 ranks of Divine Blessing which mitigates damage by 30 percent on a fairly routine basis. Probably won't save you from a direct hit by Diablos even if it procs but it will save you from having to quaff some potions during the fight
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Purple Filth on February 20, 2018, 05:10:16 PM
Man everyone is saying that Diablos is challenging but he seems the same like in MHFU  :thinking

Seems it's time to try him out.


Goddamn it. I almost had Diablos down and then some noob got Pwned 3x in a row.

Funnily enough it was running a SOS in this game that made me realize that the 3 or so faints is counted amongst everyone in a squad  :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Solo that shit :bolo
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on February 20, 2018, 05:23:49 PM
Man everyone is saying that Diablos is challenging but he seems the same like in MHFU  :thinking

Seems it's time to try him out.


I think most people saying that, including myself, never fought him before as this is their first MH.

Probably not hard to MH vets.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Tasty on February 20, 2018, 05:28:02 PM
Eh, frenzy Diablos can be as annoying as anything in MH, I can understand the noob complaints.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Purple Filth on February 20, 2018, 05:45:31 PM
Man everyone is saying that Diablos is challenging but he seems the same like in MHFU  :thinking

Seems it's time to try him out.


I think most people saying that, including myself, never fought him before as this is their first MH.

Probably not hard to MH vets.

I guess so but i haven't fought him since MHFU so maybe he has some new stuff up his sleeve

Tasty?

Eh, frenzy Diablos can be as annoying as anything in MH, I can understand the noob complaints.

Ain't that the truth. :snoop


So the melding npc is extremely disappointing. First of all, the pages of potions and traps and ammo are useless. That stuff is easy to come by. As to the Monster parts: there’s only Plates (okay I guess) and Gems (do these exist outside melding?). So basically, you’re still stuck grinding for the annoying shit like Fangs and Sacs and Tails.

Not to mention that anything worthwhile takes special items only that are rewards from limited bounties (yay, more grinding!). I might as well just say fuck it and go grind investigations with silver and gold rewards instead.

Very much a missed opportunity to cut down on the bullshit: every item should be meldable once obtained and valued with MP in such a way that prevents turning in lots of junk for the good shit (i.e. I should be able to turn 4 Anjanath Pelt in for 1 Anjanath Fang.

Or just don’t have this npc and have the item drop process be less obtuse. Having monsters drop items mid fight that need to be picked up and don’t automatically go in your inventory is terrible. Tails I can understand because it’s very noticeable and they have to be carved. If I break an Anjanath’s head that should guarantee X Fangs by the end of the quest.

Late to this post but iirc the 2 highlighted were some of the rarest parts to get in the older games (Rathian Plates....:beli) so being able to get them using this melder is very interesting tbh.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on February 21, 2018, 01:06:15 AM
What the fucking fuck fuck fuck is that SFV challenge quest?  :maf :maf :maf :maf

3 stars my ass. Giant fucking barroth that does diablos charges for 70% of your health. That headbutts you for 50% of your health and dizzying you in 1 hit? That you can't even reach his fucking weakpoint of his head because he's 80 feet tall? WTF
Tried doing it with hammer and blew through all 8 lives. Tried the gun but it's a slow gun and does like 10 damage per shot. How the fuck are you supposed to beat this guy and get the Ryu costume??

WORST MH MISSION EVER
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on February 21, 2018, 01:08:22 AM
https://dotesports.com/the-op/news/street-fighter-ryu-guide-monster-hunter-world-21172

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The quest has you fight against a large Barroth, but don't go against it alone—this Barroth is impossible to beat due to its massive size and hitboxes.

You get two SFV Tickets each time you beat the Barroth, and you need seven tickets to unlock the Ryu costume.

BUT IT DOESN'T LET YOU BRING YOUR CAT IN AND IT DOESN'T LET YOU SOS FLARE TO GET ANOTHER PLAYER TO JOIN WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

/raging

http://www.ign.com/wikis/monster-hunter-world/How_to_Unlock_Ryu_from_Street_Fighter

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You can cart 9 times, so you should be able to defeat the Barroth solo, but the quest is designed for two players.

If you think this will play like a normal Barroth hunt, think again. This monster's massive size drastically changes its hitboxes and range, requiring you to change your strategy. We recommend using the Heavybowgun and teaming up with another Heavybowgun user - both sets come with poison, sleep, and paralysis knives and ammo and traps.

This is such crap. You shouldn't need 2p to beat any of this stuff. Maybe they should just not make it bullshit in the first place!  :maf
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Freyj on February 21, 2018, 11:36:52 AM
Late to this post but iirc the 2 highlighted were some of the rarest parts to get in the older games (Rathian Plates....:beli) so being able to get them using this melder is very interesting tbh.

Yeah I can see that, but it requires items that are super grindy to get in the first place. It would be nice if you could convert rare items you don’t need to rare items you do.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: kingv on February 21, 2018, 01:27:50 PM
Late to this post but iirc the 2 highlighted were some of the rarest parts to get in the older games (Rathian Plates....:beli) so being able to get them using this melder is very interesting tbh.

Yeah I can see that, but it requires items that are super grindy to get in the first place. It would be nice if you could convert rare items you don’t need to rare items you do.

Needs.... AUCTION HOUSE
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Fortus on February 21, 2018, 02:03:18 PM
So I finally tried an Arena Quest you get at the hub. Thought it would be like the Arena quests that show up under Optional. Boy was I wrong. No Palico allowed, can't use the weapon you have and your stuck with the crap they give you in the box for expendables. Took me twenty minutes and four deaths to kill the Rathian  :fbm
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: paprikastaude on February 24, 2018, 07:23:55 AM
Tempered Kirin

:goty
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on February 25, 2018, 07:28:04 PM
Fought the Pink Rathalon. Was a good fight solo. I'm still rocking my LR Diablo Armor for 3/5 pieces because the lvl.3 Diablos skill that buffs your attack power by like 10-20% is too damn good to let go of. At some point I'll need to switch them out to HR armor for the DEF sadly ;_;, they're like 38 armor after leveling and the HR stuff is 50+ DEF now before leveling it.

Went to Elders Recess and took out Dodogama and spotted the Azure Rathian, Radaboon remix, and Plethy remix. Gonna do those and then I guess it unlocks Nergigante once you've got enough tracks like the pink Rathian. Is that the end of the game? These monsters and then final boss Nergigante? Or are there more monsters are?

Weapon-wise I probably need to sit down and grind mats. I haven't grinded in a while because I kinda hate grinding, feels like a waste of time. But my weapons are all still rarity 4 (~900-950 dmg including elemental daamge), outside a bone weapon with no element (needs awakening skill) at rarity 6 for like 900 neutral damage. I have the rarity 6 paths open for weapons, but I need to grind rarity 5 mats and rarity 6 mats to get my weapons up.  When the heck can I get an awakening skill? My neutral bone rarity 6 weapon has like 300 lightning greyed out, if I could just awaken that I'm be pretty good outside Lightning resistant monsters.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Freyj on February 25, 2018, 08:46:38 PM
There’s a few more actually new monsters after Nerg
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Fortus on February 25, 2018, 09:28:24 PM
Bebpo you'll need the Free Elem/Ammo Up skill either from an armor piece or decoration to 'ungray' your weapon's potential. Found that out the hard way :/
For the main story line there are four Elders after Nerg but tbh they were a little underwhelming. I was used to difficulty spikes and thought they would be too but I guess I did enough grinding (and learning) that they weren't too hard
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on February 26, 2018, 03:40:52 AM
Was joining SoS stuff to grind mats for various weapon/accessory upgrades. Unfortunately the awakening/free element accessory requires grinding the worst stage ever, Zorah Magdoras and needs 1-star drop quest reward gem  :-\

Kept doing missions waiting for it to show up, jumped into a 4p mission, difficulty adjusted to 2p+, was like midway when the host disconnected and it became a solo mission, only I'm 100% sure the difficulty adjustment (aka Zorah's HP) didn't re-adjust down to solo. I kept at it firing the cannons and dragonater and 24 minutes later failed the mission and got nothing :(

Now I know if I'm ever doing that mission and the host DCs, to just bail the fuck out because it's probably unbeatable and just a waste of time at that point  :'(


At least I took down the Radabon V2 in Elder Recess in expedition prior to that. Just got the Azure Rathian and Lava Fish left there.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on February 26, 2018, 04:10:38 AM
Was googling around for hammer upgrade/skills recommendations and saw that for slow weapons like hammer, raw damage > elemental/status affliction because you hit less. So basically instead of trying to make all these weapon branches (and grinding to get them) in the different elements to have an elemental weapon ready for each monster and their weakness, I should just stick to the boring high raw damage ones (mostly like Bone/Ore/non-monster mat parts). Good to know.

And yeah, I confirmed that if you're playing MP and it scales the enemy HP (after DEF increases) to effectively 2.3x-2.75x and if someone disconnects it doesn't re-scale back down, so you're left fighting solo against an enemy with 2-3x the HP bleh, seems like there should be a better way to handle that.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on February 27, 2018, 01:11:42 AM
Man, grinding low rank monsters ain't fun at all in HR. I thought they would die in like 3-4 mins with a 1000 damage weapon, but tried fighting Pukei Pukei LR because I still need a LR shell for the hammer tree and my tailrider safaris aren't bringing it back, took me 15 mins across 3 locations I had to chase him and I didn't get a shell drop :|

I really don't like grinding in MH, it's only sorta fun in 4p because it's easier, faster and you're working as a team. Solo grinding is zzzzzzzzz.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on February 27, 2018, 01:39:20 AM
Also, this is probably blasphemous to MH players, but I don't think the weapon tree should require you to have the previous weapon. The armor isn't a tree and you just grind whatever recent monster you want for gear that's effective where you're at. Weapons should be the same, you want a weapon? You grind the mats, the end. Why should you have to grind a bunch of low rank mats when you're far into the game just so you can make the base weapons to get to the weapon you actually want to build further down the tree? Seems kinda padded grind imo.

Unless the concept is that you just stick with one weapon tree from start to finish in a playthrough and you're only grinding the next step?
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Fortus on February 27, 2018, 02:52:36 AM
You can backtrack your weapon's developement and you regain the mats used when you do so. If you want you can downgrade to the base form and collect everything you've put into it. It actually is kind of what you're asking for. Just go back to whatever branch you want to explore and start getting the specific mats to finish it out
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on February 27, 2018, 03:16:52 AM
That doesn't help though because the different branches need different monsters.

Like if I'm running a Agajanth weapon tree -> Agajanth HR weapon tree and have rarity 6 fire Agajanth weapon. But now I want to make a water weapon to fight some fire monsters that are weak 3-star to water. Even if I backtrack that Agajanth rarity 6 weapon down to 1, I still need to grind a bunch of LR Plethy to get the mats for Water tree rarity 1-3, before I can get to HR water tree 4-6 even though I might have enough mats for Water Tree rarity 6 already.

Like right now where I'm at in HR, I have enough mats to make a ton of the rarity 6 weapons in various branches. But to make those rarity 6 weapons I need to grind LR rarities that they upgrade from and grinding LR monsters sucks when you're in HR.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Fortus on February 27, 2018, 03:48:12 AM
Well if you're going to specialize every facet of elemental damages...expect to grind each element? :D
Why not look for a more 'generic' or 'rounded' avenue and take it to the end to see how it fares? Why get peeved over something that might not matter in the end functionally speaking?
idk about Hammers but I have two Glaives I use. One is Datura Blade III for Sever damage (bonus Poisin damage if the Mon is susceptible) and the other is Hazak Entoma II for Blunt, Dragon and Elderseal. Before I start a mission I'll just check the Mon for whichever works best. If Sever or Poisin is go then I'll grab the Datura. If I need Blunt, Dragon or Elderseal the Entoma comes out to play. No one weapon will ever cover every base. Yes exploiting elemental weakness is a very worthy goal but many consider the game too easy as is, Capcom had to hide being OP behind some kind of roadblock yes? :P
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Freyj on February 28, 2018, 11:27:16 AM
Hit the credits roll. Not sure how much further I’ll push because I think I carted out on half the last four elders and came really close to doing so on Xeno’jiva. Want to at least try the Tempered mons, but I think I’m clearly in the grind elders for hours and hours for gems and plates and fangs phase.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: kingv on March 02, 2018, 08:00:11 AM
I finally knocked down Diablos.

I had to do it solo, too many people tried to Leroy Jenkins when I was sending SOS’s.

I think I will need to bust out some investigations in the meantime though, I definitely need higher armor rating. He could still two shot me even on single player difficulty
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Freyj on March 04, 2018, 03:34:35 AM
Why is XX only out on the Switch in Japan? I’m considering importing it, but that’s a serious missed opportunity with World selling so well.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on March 04, 2018, 03:45:27 AM
It makes a lot of sense to me. They don’t want players coming into the series to pick up XX and go “wtf is all this cumbersome stuff and poor gfx, I guess I’m done with this franchise” and then not buying MHW2.

Not that XX is bad, but going back on some of the QoL improvements could definitely turn off people who started with World.

I’m still not really sure if MH is for me. Could never get into the old ones and while I like World, I don’t even know if I’ll finish the game. I don’t care for the grind much and too many of the monsters just feel like run around and do your strong attack/combo after each enemy move. 4p while fun is just like shallow mashing. I guess it doesn’t feel as precise an action game as I like with specific tight timing attacks and responses like a character action game. And yeah fighting stuff over and over with RNG feels like a waste of time for me.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Freyj on March 04, 2018, 01:36:43 PM
I can’t see much of a good reason to grind before you at least have seen the credits roll. I did that with LR Anjanath only to ditch that gear pretty soon after. The grinding loop should be reserved for the absolute post game.
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Tasty on March 04, 2018, 05:46:11 PM
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Not that XX is bad, but going back on some of the QoL improvements could definitely turn off people who started with World.

Do you even know what those are, besides fireflies? :thinking
Title: Re: Monster Hunter World is out please dress your cat appropriately
Post by: Bebpo on March 04, 2018, 09:40:51 PM
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Not that XX is bad, but going back on some of the QoL improvements could definitely turn off people who started with World.

Do you even know what those are, besides fireflies? :thinking

Somewhat? I've read up a bit on the older games and the changes. Things like actually having to gather in the past games, and having to equip gear for gathering. Crafting was more complex and time consuming in the older ones. Had to make whetstones. Paintball tracking. There's probably a website that lists all the changes or something.

From what I hear, 100 hours of content in MHW would take about 200-300 hours in old monster hunter just because the extra time consuming stuff that adds 2x-3x time.

Idk, if I was in love with MHW I'd probably grab XX for Switch for the 90+ monsters and give it a run. But like I said, I'm not sure where I stand on if MH is for me after World. I think I'll probably finish it (only like 6 or so monsters away I think) and I'll probably pick up whatever G expansion/sequel, but considering I have very little interest in the post-game grind in World, I'm not sure I'll enjoy G-rank expansion and might play it for a few hours and bail until MHW2 and give it another shot.
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Post by: Fortus on March 04, 2018, 10:46:12 PM
Bepbo try a different weapon maybe? If you're not really engaged with the core mechanics of actually felling a beast then just about everything is going to seem a grind. I love hunting so if I have to concentrate on a particular mon for something it's not that big a deal (unless the piece I need doesn't drop after half a dozen tries :lol) Go dual blades for a change of pace or even better try the horn out since you coop a lot
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Post by: Tasty on March 04, 2018, 11:35:09 PM
Paintball tracking was fine. You can buy whestones for 80z. The crafting system was grade-A and allowed you to bang out dozens of items in seconds. I never remember equipping specific gear to gather. And gathering is 50% of the term "hunter-gatherer" so I saw it as fairly appropriate (and now I'm perturbed learning that World's done away with it completely.)
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Post by: Fortus on March 05, 2018, 01:07:04 AM
Paintball tracking was fine. You can buy whestones for 80z. The crafting system was grade-A and allowed you to bang out dozens of items in seconds. I never remember equipping specific gear to gather. And gathering is 50% of the term "hunter-gatherer" so I saw it as fairly appropriate (and now I'm perturbed learning that World's done away with it completely.)

There's plenty of gathering to do and World gives you some neat tools to supplant your efforts. You can grow flora and mushrooms in the Botanical Garden, you can send out Pallico Safaris to grab a bunch of mats, there's a regular stop by the Argosy which can net you any number of things (and you can have him hunt for specific types as well). You can mass produce items to your hearts content provided you have the ingredients. The crafting is alive and well though I can't speak to how it compares to more recent releases. The game certainly rewards dedication for both parts of 'hunter-gatherer'
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Post by: Bebpo on March 05, 2018, 01:36:18 AM
Bepbo try a different weapon maybe? If you're not really engaged with the core mechanics of actually felling a beast then just about everything is going to seem a grind. I love hunting so if I have to concentrate on a particular mon for something it's not that big a deal (unless the piece I need doesn't drop after half a dozen tries :lol) Go dual blades for a change of pace or even better try the horn out since you coop a lot

I do think this may be my problem. With the hammer all I do the entire game for every monster is run up and hit them on the head. Every fight is just: dodge move -> counter with a lvl.3 charged up hammer to the head. After a couple of times that'll dizzy them and then you run up and do another lvl.3 charged up hammer to the head once or twice. If they're in the air, shoot slinger at them or wait for them to come down and then lvl.3 charged up hammer to the head when they land. Occasionally if there's not enough time for a lvl.3 charge hammer, go for a lvl.2 charged hammer upswing.

Oh and everytime there's a sliding incline, go up the incline, hit charge and start sliding and then let go and do the spinning hammer at their head.

That's pretty much it. Attacking different parts of the monster? For 90% of the monsters their weakest point is just hitting them on the head. Can't slice stuff off like tails so don't bother with anything besides hitting them in the head.

Yeah, if I used other weapons the combat would probably have more depth. But since I'm so close to the end and don't want to craft an entire new weapon line and don't want to have to learn a new weapon, will just stick to the hammer for the rest of the fights. After I beat the main game if I'm not burnt out and over it completely I'll start trying different weapons.

I do find the combat fun, and more so in 4p just because it plays so smooth, but even fun combat over and over for grinding gets zzz
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Post by: Momo on March 06, 2018, 11:32:23 AM
I only really had mild difficult with three fights, and that mostly cause I play in PUGS and people are idiots.
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Post by: Freyj on March 07, 2018, 12:56:54 AM
I solo everything and the two Tempered Bazel fight wasn’t noticeably different? They’re more aggressive but not to the degree I was expecting. Tempered seems like a good place to stop because the rewards really aren’t any different and even getting the investigations is a grind.

Need G Rank.
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Post by: paprikastaude on March 07, 2018, 02:44:37 PM
https://gematsu.com/2018/03/monster-hunter-world-spring-2018-special-broadcast-set-march-14

 :hitler
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Post by: archie4208 on March 07, 2018, 03:46:53 PM
Please be more than just Deviljho. 
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Post by: chronovore on March 07, 2018, 10:53:07 PM
My son bought this while I was away. He says he'll let me play his copy.

Cool, I guess I'll let him continue playing on my playstation.
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Post by: Purple Filth on March 11, 2018, 03:14:17 AM
Made it to High Rank

Now for the good stuff :aah :aah :aah

Also i think its time to get rid of that Low Rank Bone armor set i have been wearing  :beli


Paintball tracking was fine. You can buy whestones for 80z. The crafting system was grade-A and allowed you to bang out dozens of items in seconds. I never remember equipping specific gear to gather. And gathering is 50% of the term "hunter-gatherer" so I saw it as fairly appropriate (and now I'm perturbed learning that World's done away with it completely.)

You didn't even have to buy whetstones as you will always have some in the supply box so it gives you a method to not use the amount you got and build it up after time, plus they will sometime be a mining reward.

Actually the gathering aspect is still there but it also gives the option for you to do all of that from the base via the Botanical Garden (its basically a souped up version of your Garden in the older MH games) and others like the melder (transmute materials using other materials) and the ship captain (purchase items he receives from his voyages).

Otherwise you can just go into a quest or expedition mode and just gather shit to your hearts content (which is even better since you have access to your main box and equipment while in the quest/expedition) .

Also you can hunt monsters in an expedition if you are feeling saucy (since they can leave the area after a certain amount of time)

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Post by: Freyj on March 11, 2018, 11:24:20 AM
Started playing MH4U to scratch the itch and honestly it’s very enjoyable aside from being on the 3DS. The Paintball mechanic is fine, gathering is fine, zones are fine. The controls just suck (a lot), but this is why I want XX on the Switch already.

I’d say playing World has made me more patient with things in 4U that might have turned me off initially.

I still dream of a remade 3U and 4U in the World engine, just for the controls.
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Post by: Purple Filth on March 11, 2018, 03:42:35 PM
Started playing MH4U to scratch the itch and honestly it’s very enjoyable aside from being on the 3DS. The Paintball mechanic is fine, gathering is fine, zones are fine. The controls just suck (a lot), but this is why I want XX on the Switch already.

I’d say playing World has made me more patient with things in 4U that might have turned me off initially.

I still dream of a remade 3U and 4U in the World engine, just for the controls.

The cool thing with the zones is that you can use it to your advantage if you get in a hairy situation and need to escape.

But I love World getting rid of it though since it can ratchet up the tension when another monster invades while you are fighting your target and you need to get the fuck away or while gathering shit you see a monster that just arrived and it saw you.

Hell not too long ago after making high rank i was chilling in an ancient forest expedition right after capturing a Kula Ka-Ku in his resting place then suddenly a fucking Bazelgeuse appeared (its the first time i'm ever seeing him) in the same place and i bolted the hell out of there to camp with my low stamina   :o :lol
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Post by: Freyj on March 11, 2018, 05:30:05 PM
Yeah I could see how you could cheese zoning.

One other thing I forget to mention: the Charge Blade is god damned incredible and I’m definitely using it when I go back to World for Deviljho
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Post by: Purple Filth on March 12, 2018, 12:27:47 PM
Yeah I could see how you could cheese zoning.

One other thing I forget to mention: the Charge Blade is god damned incredible and I’m definitely using it when I go back to World for Deviljho

That thing looks real complex but seems like a mixture of sword and shield and the switch axe which is pretty dope.

it's now on the list of potential of secondaries i want to use along with the Bow (Range), Lance (Range/Defense) and Gunlance (Defense/Range) 

Also was awesome hearing Vinny from Giant Bomb fanboying about it  :lol
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Post by: Freyj on March 12, 2018, 03:06:26 PM
It is intimidating at first but I watched a few videos on GaijinHunters channel about it and I’d say it’s very approachable now. It has an insane amount of features and flexibility but you can also just find a groove between sword and axe mode that works for you and stick with it. The phials are the worst part but you can pay less strict attention to them when you know how moves alter the charging / usage of them.

I’m going to stick with 4U until the 3DS controls drive me crazy and then I’m importing XX on the Switch, language barrier be damned.
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Post by: Tasty on March 12, 2018, 03:46:11 PM
Started playing MH4U to scratch the itch and honestly it’s very enjoyable aside from being on the 3DS. The Paintball mechanic is fine, gathering is fine, zones are fine. The controls just suck (a lot), but this is why I want XX on the Switch already.

Almost exactly word-for-word of what I've been telling Bebpo. :P

Do you mean the controls suck because lol handheld or some other reason?
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Post by: Freyj on March 12, 2018, 11:48:17 PM
Mostly lol handheld but it’s absolutely the most noticeable thing coming from World. Camera is dog shit but the C Stick makes it bearable. X+A is kind of hard to hit on the 3DS sometimes, unlike Triangle + O from World.

 I downloaded a demo of XX on Switch and was disappointed the game doesn’t make better use of ZL and ZR for more options, World-like sheathing, etc. The graphics and controls are more comfortable but it wouldn’t take much to make it feel more or less 1-to-1 with World on the Switch.
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Post by: Bebpo on March 13, 2018, 12:27:58 AM
Started playing MH4U to scratch the itch and honestly it’s very enjoyable aside from being on the 3DS. The Paintball mechanic is fine, gathering is fine, zones are fine. The controls just suck (a lot), but this is why I want XX on the Switch already.

Almost exactly word-for-word of what I've been telling Bebpo. :P

Do you mean the controls suck because lol handheld or some other reason?

Andy, why don’t you just get a PS4 & World? There’s got to be some other stuff on PS4 you’re interested in.
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Post by: Tasty on March 13, 2018, 01:53:51 AM
Yes, there is! And I intend to very soon.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 13, 2018, 03:36:38 AM
Feels like we are crossing streams Tasty.
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Post by: archie4208 on March 13, 2018, 11:21:02 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T3FNz78zyk
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Post by: Momo on March 13, 2018, 12:50:11 PM
i'm really disliking the weapon choices in the tie ins so far, either they are too weak (aloy's bow) or they are stuff i dont play with (this)
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Post by: Tasty on March 13, 2018, 01:49:17 PM
They need to bring back Iuyasha's sword Tessaiga from Tri (and 4 apparently? Fucking Japan...)
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Post by: Purple Filth on March 14, 2018, 12:00:05 AM
Crap i'm already at 50 hours and just scratched the surface :whew
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Post by: archie4208 on March 14, 2018, 09:28:00 AM
https://twitter.com/monsterhunter/status/973878793172594688
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Post by: Momo on March 14, 2018, 09:33:53 AM
k-k-k-k-kontent :rejoice
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Post by: paprikastaude on March 14, 2018, 12:46:55 PM
also balancing

https://gematsu.com/2018/03/monster-hunter-world-first-major-update-launches-march-22-adds-deviljo-spring-blossom-fest
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Post by: Freyj on March 17, 2018, 06:30:58 PM
Biggest non-controls, camera (holy jesus I couldn’t keep my camera on Gore Magala when he was enraged) complaint about MH4U is that every bit non Caravan content makes the blanket assumption that you’re playing with 2-4 people. No scaling. Absolute garbage that the Caravan doesn’t increase your HR and the L/H/G Rank content doesn’t scale.
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Post by: paprikastaude on March 17, 2018, 08:08:22 PM
Prior games locked away tons of content if you weren't playing multiplayer or basically made it impossible to manage alone.
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Post by: Fortus on March 17, 2018, 08:32:18 PM
HR 60 now after several hundred hours logged. Nothing left to do but grind for decos. Still love hunting but have World on backburner until the big update. I do log in to check for events since the gear can be actually useful like the Stun resist glasses which I now sport. The Wiggler head thing was amusing and it does have two deco slots but...meh. The Aloy set looks cool but the Skills on it are garbage. Trying to get the multiplayer trophy so if anyone needs help on PS4 shoot me a message
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Post by: Akala on March 19, 2018, 02:49:43 PM
this finally went on sale somewhere and best buy price matched+GCU.  :hyper
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 22, 2018, 01:42:05 PM
Is there some matchmaking in this game? Or are sol if you are playing solo
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Post by: kingv on March 22, 2018, 05:15:06 PM
There is matchmaking and you can join or be joined really easily. There’s like an item you can use to ask for help. I have had pretty good luck with t most of the time.
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Post by: Freyj on March 22, 2018, 09:07:54 PM
Going back to World for Deviljho and I think I've determined something I don't care for with 4U, etc: they're much less reactionary and much more rhythmic games.

You watch the best players on 4U and they're almost mechanically locked into a rhythm with how the monster is moving. To really feel like you're besting the monsters you need to proactively anticipate what they're doing and where they'll end up. Maybe World has some of that too, but I feel like you're in much more of a fist fight and less of a dance with the monsters.
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Post by: Tasty on March 23, 2018, 12:11:22 AM
That's the appeal though. :thinking
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Post by: Freyj on March 23, 2018, 12:45:00 AM
I get that. I just far prefer reactionary to that sort of combat. It feels like a carefully considered response to the limitations of the platforms and controls it was working with.
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Post by: Svejk on March 23, 2018, 09:56:52 AM
Update 2.0 just showed as downloaded this morning.  Any idea what all's in that?

Edit:  ah, nvm.   Deviljho hunt is added and such below...

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As mentioned in last week’s blog, we’re also making various adjustments to game systems and weapon balance. Here are the full patch notes for this update:

WEAPON BALANCE UDPATES

Great Sword

Charged Slash II — Damage increased.
Charged Slash III — Damage increased.
Strong Charged Slash II — Damage increased.
Strong Charged Slash III — Damage increased.
Long Sword

Foresight Slash — Time window to successfully trigger increased.
Foresight Slash — Hitbox to successfully trigger increased.
Foresight Slash — Damage hitbox increased.
Foresight Slash — Increased the angle that the player can control the direction of the attack.
Spirit Helm Breaker — (Bug Fix) After use, you should now properly be immune to knockbacks until you land on the ground.
Sword & Shield

Roundslash — Damage increased.
Wedge beetles can now be used when using the slinger with your weapon drawn.
Dual Blades

Demon Gauge — Can now be increased by Demon Mode roundslashes and Demon Flurry Rush.
Demon Mode — Fixed a bug where you could not cancel Demon Mode when transitioning from a Demon Dodge.
Hammer

Charge Tier 2 — Charged Upswing stun values increased.
Charge Tier 2 — Charged Brutal Upswing stun values increased.
Charge Tier 3 — Charged Big Bang stun values increased.
Hunting Horn

The Encore effect for the Self-Improvement melody now also increases your attack power (the effect is now "Attack Up + Deflected Attack Prevention").
Lance

Counter-thrust — Temporary knockback negation during a successful counter-thrust.
Gunlance

Shelling — Damage parameters increased when sharpness is yellow or worse.
Sharpness loss alleviated for all Wyrmstake Cannon and Wyvern's Fire attacks.
Wyrmstake Cannon — Damage increased.
Wyvern's Fire — Damage increased.
Switch Axe

Zero Sum Discharge — Level 4 Earplugs effect during use.
It is now possible to chain the beginning of Sword: Jumping Element Discharge into Zero Sum Discharge.
Zero Sum Discharge Finisher — Damaged increased.
Mounted Discharge Finisher — No longer causes sharpness loss.
Zero Sum Discharge — (Bug Fix) After use, you should now properly be immune to knockbacks until you land on the ground.
Charge Blade

Impact Phials — Attack power bonuses from effects other than that of the Artillery skill (for the explosions) were decreased.
Axe: Super Amped Element Discharge — Stun values decreased for Impact Phials.
Phial stun values increased for all attacks other than Axe: Super Amped Element Discharge.
Elemental values increased for Power Element Phials.
Axe: Super Amped Element Discharge — Power Element Phial explosions spaced closer together to make them easier to hit.
Insect Glaive

Improved the effect of the attack power increase for red/white and red/white/orange extract hybrid effects.
Extract effect times increased overall.
Extract effect times no longer decrease while mounting a monster.
Bow

Dashing Shot — Fixed a bug where the Spread/Power Shots skill effect was applied twice.
Dragon Piercer — Fixed a bug where you could shoot past the attack's angle limitations. Now shoots straight ahead of the player, regardless of the camera angle, when shot with the camera angle past the attack's angle limitations.
Light Bowgun and Heavy Bowgun

No adjustments were made.
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GAME SYSTEM ADDITIONAL AND CHANGES

Optimized data processing to reduce loading times.
Added the feature "Kick from Online Session" to the player list.
Added "Return to Gathering Hub" (single player) and "Disband & Return to Gathering Hub" (multiplayer) to the options for "Select Return Destination" after a quest.
Added the "Text Size" setting for changing subtitle text size, under Start Menu > Options Game Settings.
In the "Online Session" menu, the name for the menu command "Squad Session Search" was changed to "Create/Search for a Squad Session" (the functionality is unchanged).
Attacks from allies no longer interrupt you during the carving animation. Additionally, players are now immune to all hit reactions, including bombs, during carving animations after quest completion.
Slightly reduced the amount that the Scoutfly Level (which is tied to monster research levels) gauge decreases after each quest.
Added the game version number to the game's title screen (for this update—PS4: 2.00; Xbox One: 2.0.0.0).
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Post by: archie4208 on March 24, 2018, 04:59:19 PM
There's a tempered Jho event quest up right now.  It's really hard and took me 4 tries.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 25, 2018, 01:13:57 AM
Just started this

Much better then the old ones but holy moly is there a plethora of shit to keep track of

Quests investigations events etc
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Post by: Freyj on March 25, 2018, 01:40:18 AM
Azure Rath was not the Monster to try out Charge Blade on but SAEDs are insanely good.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 28, 2018, 02:33:27 PM
Fuck im deep into this shit now

This game is so good, bit slow killing though

Only mon hun I played before was on ipad (lol) but I still put in 20 hours into it, this will get serious gaming time for sure
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Post by: Nabbis on March 28, 2018, 02:34:50 PM
I wan't to buy this game but it's like 70e.  :-\
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Post by: Svejk on March 28, 2018, 03:42:57 PM
I started dabbling with the charge blade.  Thought I was getting pretty good at it and took out few monsters.......  till I watched a tutorial on it's move set and realized I was doing the charge all wrong.   :snoop
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Post by: Svejk on April 02, 2018, 09:03:04 AM
This is certainly a nitpick, but I feel it's legitimate.  I'm coming to realize that the armor/gear customization in this game sucks....  that may be a bit harsh, but it's certainly poor.    It suffers from what 99% of the games out there that offer character customization, when it comes to armor/gear categories.  All you get is head, torso, waist and leg armor.  With a game with half the purpose of playing it is to craft cool new gear from monsters slain, why... oh why is there not an extra tier of actual clothing that can be crafted from said monsters to wear in conjunction with your armor??!?  Fucking Dragon’s Dogma, a game released 6 years ago, did this (looking at you, Capcom), why is this not in every game (with character customization) moving forward??  They could at least patch in some dye options or something…  But if this isn’t ramped up to at least DD level once the follow up is released, I may just pass then.   

You can fucking make the prettiest/ugliest face, with color of skin not humanly possible, with literal endless variety, but yet, there simply needs to be at least….
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Three times the amount of fashionable tier options in this game!
(http://78.media.tumblr.com/59f9c1af754e056bd27dd20a14f4817b/tumblr_n1fixeSAS21s5bh5uo3_r1_250.gif)
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Post by: paprikastaude on April 02, 2018, 09:38:05 AM
hot damn that Jho Bazelgeus turf war. :whew Feels good to see this intrusive bastard get what it deserves for once.
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Post by: Nola on April 02, 2018, 06:42:35 PM
This is certainly a nitpick, but I feel it's legitimate.  I'm coming to realize that the armor/gear customization in this game sucks....  that may be a bit harsh, but it's certainly poor.    It suffers from what 99% of the games out there that offer character customization, when it comes to armor/gear categories.  All you get is head, torso, waist and leg armor.  With a game with half the purpose of playing it is to craft cool new gear from monsters slain, why... oh why is there not an extra tier of actual clothing that can be crafted from said monsters to wear in conjunction with your armor??!?  Fucking Dragon’s Dogma, a game released 6 years ago, did this (looking at you, Capcom), why is this not in every game (with character customization) moving forward??  They could at least patch in some dye options or something…  But if this isn’t ramped up to at least DD level once the follow up is released, I may just pass then.   

You can fucking make the prettiest/ugliest face, with color of skin not humanly possible, with literal endless variety, but yet, there simply needs to be at least….
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Three times the amount of fashionable tier options in this game!
(http://78.media.tumblr.com/59f9c1af754e056bd27dd20a14f4817b/tumblr_n1fixeSAS21s5bh5uo3_r1_250.gif)
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Go to your item box in your room, go down to the bottom and click on "change appearance," next click on "change armor pigment" in the sub menu.  :itagaki

It's not exactly what you are looking for, and it is somehow even less robust than what you get with the friggin pig's outfits, but it at least allows you to coordinate the base colors if that is something that bothers you enough(I tend to not care all that much)


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Post by: Svejk on April 02, 2018, 10:39:31 PM
Go to your item box in your room, go down to the bottom and click on "change appearance," next click on "change armor pigment" in the sub menu.  :itagaki

It's not exactly what you are looking for, and it is somehow even less robust than what you get with the friggin pig's outfits, but it at least allows you to coordinate the base colors if that is something that bothers you enough(I tend to not care all that much)
Oh hell yeah. Thanks for pointing that out.  I'll take that over nothing.
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Post by: Akala on April 03, 2018, 09:52:39 AM
I am digging it, but felt I was playing it wrong. On main quest line I got destroyed by the winged dragon in the 2nd zone, so went back to try and get the Anjanath armor. Just couldn't put a dent in Anjanath, but looking at a few guides it seems that is for a bit later. Once I got past that I took down the Barroth pretty easily but it just took forever...seems like I should be doing more damage. Also just found that you can make weapon/armor sets from some of the small creatures so maybe i have a few upgrades i can do.

Haven't messed with multiplayer but answering SOS seems like its the easiest way to farm (investigations not really loading anything but the first two monsters)? May have to check it out later.
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Post by: toku on June 21, 2018, 07:11:37 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/b07IuBb.gif)
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Post by: Akala on June 21, 2018, 09:10:15 PM
that's dope  :doge

I haven't played this in weeks, for no real reason at all :'(
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Post by: Bebpo on June 21, 2018, 10:11:59 PM
Is the end game hard to catch up on? I left the game when I was still tracking Nerg in the last area. Still need to finish the main story.
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Post by: Bebpo on July 04, 2018, 01:16:48 AM
So I totally missed that MHW is getting FF's Behemoth. That's pretty awesome. Yeah, I'll need to catch up at some point so I can do that fight when it's out. Hopefully it's not a big grind from where I was at in HR13 or something to being able to fight and beat one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBkR8bry64Y
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Post by: toku on July 09, 2018, 12:21:21 PM
https://www.pcgamer.com/monster-hunter-world-pc-release-date-set/

August 9th! My birthday too  :lol :lol
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Post by: paprikastaude on December 10, 2018, 09:34:02 AM
GRank DLC next autumn
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Post by: chronovore on January 08, 2019, 09:20:31 PM
Still haven't played through the tutorial.

Shit's gonna be on fucking PS Plus before I have a chance to play.  :-\
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Post by: Bebpo on January 20, 2019, 12:02:22 AM
So I ended up playing a ton of this today, got back into the grind loop, and coming from Generations Ultimate it's kinda a weird feel.
Like everyone says World is easier than the old games, and it sorta is and sorta isn't.

Enemies are definitely less aggressive in World and give you more time to beat on them.
But, the HR monsters in World hit....fucking hard. Like I've got pretty ok HR upgraded armor now after a day of grind and I'm still getting like 50%+ of my life taken away in one hit from tough enemies. Like even in G-rank in GU with just HR armor and entry level G-rank armor I'm not getting hit like that at all. Maybe like 30-40% damage hits. World feels a lot like "oh shit I just got hit better run the fuck away and try to heal so I don't cart my team" vs. in G-rank GU where I'm like "ok, I'll wait until I get hit a few times to back off and heal"

Also I don't know if it's just because it's an old game at this point, but the active community sucks on ps4. Almost 1/3rd of the quests I did today ended up failing and not getting anything. When I play GU there's a person carting here and there but man I think I played from HR1 to G2 with randoms and only failed a quest maybe twice the entire time.

I can't tell if this is because the players are better in GU (old-school MH players), or if it's because shit hits harder in World and its easier to cart.
Also some dumb players out there like if there's 2 monsters on the map there is no reason to split up and fight them separately instead of ganging up on one monster at a time wtf. Some guy fighting Black Diablos solo while the other 3 are fighting a Rathian and you get a message he carted. Wtf.

The other thing is the progression is so.freaking.slow in World compared to GU. This whole thing for the last 4 monsters (Nergigante & Elder Dragons) where you have to just "keep playing maps over and over and eventually after a bunch of hours they'll unlock the fights" is really lame. Just give me a list of missions one after another to beat until I get to the ending. You can tell that because there's so few monsters they just dragggggg out the content in World. I've almost unlocked the elder dragon fights after playing all day and gearing up.

I now get the complaint about the maps being too busy/maze-y. I have trouble at the start trying to find my team and the target half the time. Once I find them it's pretty easy to follow from point to point, but still yeah. I don't think it needs zones or anything, but make it easier to get to the monsters at the start.

The monster turf war thing sucks now that I've played GU and they've added Deviljho. Like whenever a turf war starts everyone just walks away and starting mining ores or dancing or doing whatever that is not fighting the monsters for like 3 minutes while the monsters duke it out. It's cool to see once but this is dumb. I don't remember it being as big of an issue pre-Deviljho but he shows up like every high rank mission and fights the target for a while. Yawn.

That being said I like the combat, the gathering and the online has pros and cons. It's easy to jump right into a mission all quick vs sitting around in a room waiting for a team in GU, but I really miss not having a "team" that comes back to the gathering hall after a mission and then we do another mission, and then another misison, etc... I'd often find a good team and we'd play a couple hours doing different stuff. Here every match is with different random people and maybe it's why people play worse because there's no sense of a real team. I hope they do something to make 4 person lobbies more of a thing in the expansion or World 2.

I think I prefer the boss fights in GU because they feel a little more arcade-y. World is definitely more dynamic and it's cool too, but GU bosses and especially the variants just have this arcade feel like when you fight Dreadking Rathalos and he launches nuke bombs on the field instead of fireballs. I'm hoping the expansion adds a lot more variants. I like the Azure Rathalos in World, but that's about the only notable variant? Pink Rathian doesn't seem much different and Black Diablos is just faster with a new move?

Anyhow World is fun and an addictive grind (much more of a grind), but I think in another day or so I'll have all the Elders down, take down a few monsters I haven't fought and then I'll shelve it until the expansion. Meanwhile I'm probably going to keep playing GU finishing up all the special permit deviant fights I haven't done yet and maybe finishing G-rank.

I definitely like Monster Hunter at this point tho  ;)

Anyhow I started yesterday with about 270 DEF and ~832 ATK, and now I'm around 340 DEF and ~1200 ATK. However, since I'm a hammer user if I want to actually knock down stun the bosses if I drop about 30 DEF down to 310 DEF I gain stun damage +30%, so I'm going back and forth between those builds depending on how tough the fight is.
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Post by: Bebpo on January 20, 2019, 02:36:20 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/9A6yDDvh.jpg)

Unlocked the first elder fight, Teostra. Gave it a shot solo first and beat it. Was a pretty good epic fight. Got lucky that it was a fire elder and my hammer was ice-based. Only complaint is I honestly prefer how Elder fights are handled in the older games where it's not even a full map, just an arena and you and the boss duke it out. While Teostra fight was intense, there were like 4-5 times throughout the fight I had to go run for 30-60 seconds to chase him to the next area back and forth which kinda took a way a bit imo.

Also I tried building a decent upgraded longsword (which was actually a pain in the butt. Grinding low rank mats for the early parts of the upgrade tree when there's no more low rank investigations because everything's high rank takes way longer than grinding high rank mats) and then messed around with LS in World a bit. Eh, it's too fast and fluid for me lol I prefer the old school style of using the fade slashes to re-position and being all about precise slashes. Also I miss the glowing red sword :X Gonna stick with Hammer in World and LS in GU. Maybe for World 2 I'll try a ranged weapon but that just doesn't seem appealing at all in MH.
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Post by: Bebpo on January 20, 2019, 12:54:12 PM
One major improvement in World though is definitely merging SP/MP campaign mode and just scaling based on # of players. It's nice to be able to do stuff in MP and then if you can't find anyone just be able to jump in and do it SP.
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Post by: Bebpo on January 21, 2019, 07:42:54 PM
Beat World. Xeno'Jiva's a good fight, just too much HP. Felt like a straight up action game final boss. Lots of HP, endurance fight, but if you learn the patterns you can avoid taking a single hit. I did it in MP first where he's got 40,000 HP and my teammates carted for the 3rd time at 26 mins in  :'(

So I tried doing it solo and beat it after around 30 mins. Its a long(er) fight with the hammer because hammer has no range. I can't hit his head...ever. Even if I knock him down. So it's just me hitting his front claws when I can for 30 mins doing like 100-150 damage per combo set and he's still got 16,000 HP.

I liked Teostra the most out of the return Elder Dragon fights (Nergigante is the best Elder Dragon fight). Kushula Daora is kinda annoying with all the wind stuff and flying around. Feels like not as many opportunities to hit him (though yeah you can bring all these guys down with slinger stuff). Vaal Hazak was just annoying because the curse stuff build up that cuts your HP bar in half ;_; Whenever was like that pretty much had to just avoid him so I didn't get one-shotted.

Deviljho is annoying in GU and annoying in MHW lol. He's just too damn big godzilla and too much HP. I feel like it's hard to avoid his moves like his tail swing or rushes because he just takes up so much space with his body. Beat him once and I'm good on fighting him.


So...all that's left for me in World to clear before shelving it until expansion is Lunastra and Behemoth. Not gonna mess with tempered stuff, don't have any interest in just stat buffed monsters yawn. Hopefully those 2 don't require a bunch of grinding to unlock.
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Post by: Bebpo on January 24, 2019, 03:26:29 AM
Finally saw what real endgame Monster Hunter was tonight. Unlocked Lunastra in the arena and yeaaaaaaaaaaaaah, everything one shots me. I might be able to beat it with a team of 4 just avoiding everything but I'd feel bad if I cart and fuck up the quest for everyone. I read you should have defense in the 430-ish with 20-25 fire res. I have like 350 DEF with 20 fire res. Also apparently you can use Vit decorations to increase HP beyond 150 to 200 but I don't have any of that. So yeah, Lunastra ain't gonna happen.

Then I tried the mission to unlock Behemoth where you fight a giant arch-tempered kulu-ya-ku. Wow. No wonder on SoS there's always like 2 of these missions going on at any time. I went through so many parties for like 2 hours, 20 min battles each time with 3-4 people and always quest failed. It's so easy for someone to get stunned and then he does his jump and it one-shots you every fucking time. One shots with 4p random teams over 20 min+ battles = doomed.

Finally I figured I knew the fight well enough that I could just do it solo and not have to worry about my teammates carting as long as I just play carefully and never take a single hit since 1 hit either one-shots or stuns -> one-shot. Well it worked and 23 mins or so later beat him in solo without taking a hit. Unlocked Behemoth and tried it and looooooooooooooooooooooool, more insane damage and huge AoEs (dodging all the tornados while also focusing on not getting hit by the monster is tough). I could try to take him with a 4p team after reading a guide, but again my stats are so underpowered for endgame I'd just feel bad if I was tanking the team so probably gonna say Behemoth and Lunastra ain't happening.

I might fuck around with tempered monsters a bit since the kulu-ya-ku arch-tempered fight, despite being annoying with all the one shot kills, was kinda exciting learning the patterns well enough to not get hit at all since getting hit equaled doom. I dunno. It's pretty clear at this point all the post-game content requires a fuckload of grind to get DEF up and get good decorations and I'm not really interested in the grind.

It's crazy to me how much ridiculously more difficult the post game MHW content is compared to GU's G-rank content (at least through G2). Maybe it's because G2 is still just main campaign and I'm compared post-campaign fights to campaign fights. Maybe G1-G4 ain't bad but post-game G4 is crazy shit like this.

And once G-rank comes out it'll make all this sorta irrelevant because the gear increase will make monsters like Lunastra/Behemoth no big deal, so I might as well just wait for the expansion and come back later. If they make the G-rank versions of the monsters more aggressive like that giant Kulu-ya-ku, I'll be looking forward to going through G-rank, but like MHW probably won't stick around for the post-campaign stuff since I'm sure it'll be one-shots and total grinds.

Pretty fun game.
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Post by: Bebpo on September 09, 2019, 04:59:32 PM
Tried Iceborne yesterday. Did the first 2 new monsters and went and fought a Master Rank Kula-Yaku. (all in all had about 3 hours playtime) The new monsters are pretty aggressive and fun, especially with 4p though would've rather had Zamtrios than this wannabe Zam that the game starts with. But the Mammoth one is basically a smaller but better moveset aggressive Gammoth.

Basically it's the same old MHW. Fights are challenging but fun and take a while in SP, 4p more fun and shorter, gear is still a grind. There's a few QoL improvements and this new Claw tool that I haven't really gotten the hang of but supposedly is pretty game changer. Some weapons got new moves but hammer is still the same outside some claw tool integration I couldn't figure out.

Master rank enemies don't seem to hit "that bad" initially, and the aggression makes them play more like XX or old school MH which is cool. But the MR HP pools are a bit much for solo. The Kula-Yaku I did took me 26 mins and I found him pretty fast and was able to keep whacking him uptime basically throughout with a 1300 damage hammer and it took like 20+ mins of constant whacking to take the damn bird down. Definitely going to stick to 4p only, solo MH with big HP pools is griiiiind.

Supposedly there's animals you ride that show you exactly where the monster is on the map which sounds nice but haven't run into it yet.

Load times are insanely awful. Worse than standard MHW on PS4 Pro. About 2-3 mins to start a mission, about 2-3 mins to get back to the city after a mission and about 1-2 mins black screen before some cutscenes. I read that swapping to an SSD cuts those down to 20-30 second loads, so I might actually go for an SSD.

Or I can just restart on PC and use the fall to get back to the end of the campaign in 30-50 hours and then play Iceborne on PC in January. Dunno.

Don't have time to invest into Iceborne now anyhow, so just gonna play a little more and figure out what I want to do.
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Post by: Akala on September 09, 2019, 05:04:47 PM
I am leaning towards restarting on PC as I think I would play it more. Waiting on a sale though as have entirely too much shit to play.  :doge
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Post by: paprikastaude on September 09, 2019, 08:55:57 PM
The balancing can be a little much (especially for singleplayer), but because of that it feels more like G-Rank than what other recent entries got. I ran out of time at the cover monster final battle, then I came back with 600 fire damage and got it in 30 minutes. But even with good groups MP sessions can easily get up to 20 minutes also. It's like Monster Hunter before Portable 3rd.
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Post by: remy on September 10, 2019, 12:21:12 AM
I rolled into the start of this expansion with some augmented insane crit boost blast earplugs lunastra/jiva Switch Axe set I forgot I built and steam rolled the first two monsters  :lol Viper Tobi Kadachi whooped my ass though and after beating him I bounced pretty hard off the ice cat guy so now I'm doing optionals and getting some gear. I like the weapon changes, the new fade slash on SA is real nice although I don't fully get what the powered axe mode actually does on SA.

I like it in general so far- the diff bump puts it at a nice pace IMO whereas world was maybe slightly too easy for most of it before. I barely understand the clutch claw at all (when do I use it? why not spam it all the time?)

My only thought is basically... the loading times suck ass after seeing how fast world loads on PC. But I don't wanna wait till January to play it :|
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Post by: Bebpo on September 10, 2019, 03:19:48 AM
Played a bit more late tonight and starting to get back in the fun grind hang of it. Especially getting the hang of hammer again. Still haven't tried the 3rd fight Tobi-Kadachi Poison, just been fucking around with the initial optional quests to get back in the swing of things and get some MR mats.

Did a 4p Beotodus run and it went down pretty quick in 16 mins. Was pretty fun.
Then did a MR Pukei-Pukei run and no one joined my SoS  :'(  But it was pretty fun fight, not sure if he had any new moves (he had a long-range tongue shoot different than the usual triple tongue swing and dash and tongue that might've been new) but was definitely more aggressive and mixing in the claw stuff for extra weakpoint damage and tossing him into a wall for 400-500 damage + stun was fun. Still took 28 mins, but helped me get really in the hang of hitting lots and lots of yellow/orange weakpoint damage hits.

So it looks like the hammer basically got 2 new moves:

-Can shoot slinger shots while charging and holding hammer charge - I'm finding this pretty nice as someone who never really used the slinger outside occasionally flash/screamer pods. Now while I'm charging hammer anytime I'm facing the boss I just let off a slinger shot of whatever I've got (redpit, piercing, etc...) and I'm finding a lot of the time it stuns them for a sec which lets me follow up with my charged hammer combo.

-After doing the big damage charge lvl.3 combo can immediately fire the claw by hitting L2/holding L2 after. Not sure of the usefulness as if your combo doesn't stun then you grab onto the enemy and good chance he moves and knocks you off. But ideally you can do combo -> create softened weakness or combo -> smash monster into wall -> more combos. Will need to see what people recommend with this.

I managed to get a couple of MR Pukei Pukei gear from that which has poison resistance +3 aka nullified, so that might be helpful going into Tobi-Kadachi Poison Ver next. Once I get a purecrystal I'm going to make a rarity 9 iron LS and see about jumping over to LS for Iceborne since LS is what I used in XX.


I also forgot that most of the loading outside the story cutscenes/expeditions is done while you visit the canteen and loadout at the item box and so when questing the load times aren't that bad. But when you're progressing the story and there's cutscenes and stuff it sucks.

I do wonder if the player count for Iceborne is going to be a lot lower than MHW since it's an expansion. In MHW I felt like my SoS were getting joined all the time, but here it seems like it can take a while to get a team (Beotodus run probably took 8-10 mins of the 16 min run to fill up) and sometimes you don't get anyone like my Pukei run. I remember I got around this in MHW by mostly just browsing other people's SOS and joining theirs if it's a monster I need/could use the drops from.
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Post by: paprikastaude on September 10, 2019, 07:55:07 AM
No new moves for GS except some shitty additional slinger shot :goty
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Post by: Bebpo on September 12, 2019, 01:40:58 AM
Did poison tobi-kadachi, dude was fine until he enrages then kinda nuts. I swapped DEF gear for poison immunity and almost got one shotted at one point (had a sliver of health left). Did it 4p and two people carted so was pretty close.
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Post by: Bebpo on September 12, 2019, 03:31:30 AM
Nightshade Palomu -Yeah, some of these variants you need to just quit out and make sure you have their status immunity. Did this without sleep immunity and with hammer (which sucks against airborne enemies) and only 1 person joined my SOS (big fu to people who won't join my SOS flares, never had this much trouble getting a 4p team in the original as I'm seeing in Master Rank).

Took us ...43 mins, ugh. Not only did we almost run out of time with 7 mins left in the 50 min mission, but the other guy fainted twice leaving one faint left and at about 41 mins in I got PARALYZED BY MY OWN SHOCK TRAP IN A POISON PIT and sat there as my left drained away. I was thinking oh fuck there is a waste of 40 mins when I got control with like 5% HP left and I quickly downed an ancient potion and then dropped a pit trap and finished tranqing him to clear. Phew.

But yeah, before I set my SOS flares on a new boss I'll fight them for a few mins and see if I need to quit out and equip any certain immunity. Once I do the SOS I'm kinda committed.

Right now going DEF & HP and just focusing on stuns with my hammer. Have about 730 DEF and an extra +30 HP, so with +50 food that's 180 health. The combination is definitely helping me make mistakes and not get any faints on any of my teams thankfully.
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Post by: remy on September 12, 2019, 10:46:55 PM
Yeah Nightshade Paolumu is such a bastard of a monster lmao. Much better with sleep res but if you go in there unprepared the fight is a complete nightmare. Clouds of sleeping gas all over the map
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Post by: Himu on September 12, 2019, 11:07:13 PM
Who plays the Switch MonHun? Not interested in World.
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Post by: Tasty on September 12, 2019, 11:10:06 PM
Who plays the Switch MonHun? Not interested in World.

Me. :)

We could probably use our own thread though.
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Post by: Bebpo on September 12, 2019, 11:41:03 PM
Who plays the Switch MonHun? Not interested in World.

 ::)


Don't be lame. I prefer XX, but World/Iceborne is good.
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Post by: Himu on September 12, 2019, 11:45:01 PM
Well I don't want to have my time split between two MonHun games is all and I think I'd prefer traditional MonHun.
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Post by: Tasty on September 12, 2019, 11:49:54 PM
Wait Bebps you're on MHGU/XX too? :)
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Post by: Tasty on September 12, 2019, 11:50:41 PM
Also yeah Iceborne looks fucking dope :lawd
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Post by: Himu on September 12, 2019, 11:51:25 PM
Which is the least time consuming game? MH is time consuming or can be.
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Post by: Tasty on September 12, 2019, 11:55:57 PM
Which is the least time consuming game? MH is time consuming or can be.

Can't speak definitively but GU started as a portable game and World started as a home console game. If I had to bet, the missions are probably more optimized for shorter play sessions on GU.

Then again World has some QoL improvements that probably add up, and gutting the resource collecting aspect of the series probably makes it more "efficient" too.
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Post by: Bebpo on September 13, 2019, 12:00:50 AM
Wait Bebps you're on MHGU/XX too? :)

Yeah, I played a fuckload of GU/XX last year or so. Got to like G2 or maybe G3 rank. Found it really fun (no bullshit, just straight out fighting) but pretty easy content at this point with 4p teams in MP. I play Longsword and like the strategy but I also enjoy the fluid combat of World where you aren't locked in your animations missing all your hits. I also like the GU/XX skill/job class system.

I don't really care about graphics anymore in videogames so the main things I like better in World/Iceborne are:

+Better combat
+Greatly prefer SOS multiplayer to old method of forming a party. Main difference is in old MH, most rooms unless they are a single monster grind. you basically rotate turns and so you have to waste a bunch of fights fighting monsters you might not need/care about fighting to get to your turn. Whereas in World/Iceborne you just start the mission you want to do everytime and light an SOS flare and get a 4p team (usually, though Iceborne is a little iffy now), or you look on the SOS list and jump into a hunt that you want to and immediately start fighting.
+Good challenge

cons are:

-Way less monsters than GU/XX
-A lot of time running around chasing monsters if the fights drag (didn't bother me in World because fights were short, but in Iceborne where they are 30mins+, definitely notice the running back and forth; also I tend to lose track of where the monster went half the time whereas in GU/XX the paintball dot makes it easy to follow)
-Way worse looking weapons (look too realistic now and boring; armor is about the same quality, but weapons area big step down in visuals)
-Takes longer to get to the monster in the first place. GU/XX you jump in and go straight to the monster and fight fight fight and it's over usually. World/Iceborne you spend 5 mins getting to the monster, fight with breaks chasing every 5 mins or so.
-World/Iceborne feels more grindy than GU/XX did to me but that might be because GU/XX gives you like a million of every item from the start since it's a late port

Anyhow I like World/Iceborne and I plan to beat the Iceborne campaign and maybe try a clear or two on each of the DLC monsters they add, but if I get the itch to play some MH a year from now I'll boot up GU/XX and take on more of the monsters I still haven't beaten.

Also World/Iceborne doesn't have Gore Magala who is my favorite monster to fight in GU/XX. I also miss Mizutsune, although Gammoth is better in Iceborne.

Which is the least time consuming game? MH is time consuming or can be.

GU/XX is less of a grind and you'll spend more time in fights, but GU/XX will probably take longer than World/Iceborne if you want to get 1 clear on every monster just because there's like 90 of them in GU/XX and a lot are locked behind grinds. I cleared World in about 50-60 hours, and in about 50-60 hours of GU/XX I still have a ton of monsters left to fight.
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Post by: Bebpo on September 13, 2019, 12:03:32 AM
Like after 50-60 hours of playing both, these are the monsters I have yet to clear (not counting Iceborne)

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Monsters left to beat in World (3)

Lunastra
Behemoth
Kulve

Monsters left to beat in GU (37)

Agnaktor
Akantor
Redhelm Arzuros
Boltreaver Astalos
Barioth
Basarios
Stonefist Hermitaur
Bloodbath DIablos
Elderfrost Gammoth
Hellblade Glavenus
Gravios
Nightcloak Malfestio
Lagiacrus
Snowbaron Lagombi
Lavasioth
Soulseer Mitzusune
Silverwind Nargacuga
Rajang
Silver Rathalos
Dreadqueen Rathian
Rustrazor Ceantaur
Drilltusk Tetsucabra
Ukanlos
Crystalbeard Uragaan
Volvidon
Deadeye Yian Garuga
Thunderlord Zinogre
Alatreon
Amatsu
Chameleos
Fatalis
Crimson Fatalis
White Fatalis
Kushala Daora
Teostra
Valstrax
Ahtal-Ka
[close]

idk if I'll ever go back to GU/XX and try to clear some of those. But maybe? It's a fun game, just need to make sure people are still playing because MH solo fucking sucksss
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Post by: Himu on September 13, 2019, 12:04:16 AM
Hm. Okay. I’ll try both. What system are you on World, Bebs?
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Post by: Tasty on September 13, 2019, 12:05:55 AM
Brachydios needs to show up more often.

Gigginox too.

And honestly Lagiacrus is too good a design to waste on being water-only. Throw Ivory Lagi in there or something for representation.
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Post by: Tasty on September 13, 2019, 12:06:06 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/TlKiUje.png)

Holy SHIT what is this beauty :uguu
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Post by: Bebpo on September 13, 2019, 12:06:51 AM
I'm on PS4, the load times are awful BUT the silver lining is you activate the quest and it starts loading while you are in town so then you go eat and re-stock items/change equip and the loading is done and the mission starts in like 10-15 seconds which is fine. But coming back takes a good minute or so and cutscenes can have shitty loading.

PC is way better in every aspect (loading is like 20-30 seconds max I hear with SSD, graphics better) but Iceborne isn't out there until January.

Framerate is pretty smooth at this point in PS4 Pro on Performance mode. Have no issues with PS4 graphics though PC probably looks better.
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Post by: Tasty on September 13, 2019, 12:07:04 AM
Oh right GU does have Lagi :ohhh
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Post by: Bebpo on September 13, 2019, 12:07:23 AM
Brachydios needs to show up more often.

Gigginox too.

And honestly Lagiacrus is too good a design to waste on being water-only. Throw Ivory Lagi in there or something for representation.

You know Brachydios is in Iceborne, right?  :P
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Post by: Tasty on September 13, 2019, 12:08:54 AM
I've been on a semi-blackout for World since I want it to feel super new whenever I get around to playing it, but that's excellent news. :D

Not sure he fits the Ice theme tho :P
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Post by: Bebpo on September 13, 2019, 12:09:58 AM
Yeah, idk, haven't got to him yet.

You know who does fit? Zamtrios, but they didn't put him in because he's too goofy when he blows up into a big ball :( Instead we get a non-ball form ripoff with Beotodus which is ok but Zam is better.
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Post by: Tasty on September 13, 2019, 12:10:26 AM
For real tho why does GU which has a billion monsters including a previously-water-only species, yet doesn't include the box mascot for one of the main series games...
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Post by: Bebpo on September 13, 2019, 12:11:52 AM
I mainly just like the status effect Gore Magala has where you have to do X amount of damage in Y amount of time or you debuff and the fight takes forever, but if you succeed you get Atk up buff which makes the fight shorter. Very MMO, but great exciting status effect that makes you want to play more risky when you have it to get the damage in and shorten the fight.
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Post by: Tasty on September 13, 2019, 12:28:41 AM
Oh yeah, Frenzy Virus is pretty fun stuff.
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Post by: Momo on September 13, 2019, 01:12:57 AM
havent played since i got sapphire star in like February, will probably be playing this again after BL3
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Post by: paprikastaude on September 13, 2019, 10:17:10 AM
Which is the least time consuming game? MH is time consuming or can be.

MHW is really fast paced until the first story ends. Then gets back to normal for higher ranks.

Generations is whatever. The formula and its restrictions were just totally played out at that point. Glad they went away from the Nintendo audience not only for better gameplay on better hardware, but because it was only just one entry away from having a "rub the guild girl" minigame and go full Fire Emblem. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpFsNeubnug
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Post by: Tasty on September 13, 2019, 07:07:51 PM
It's amazing what the specter of Nintendo can be blamed for when you put your mind to it, I suppose.
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Post by: paprikastaude on September 13, 2019, 10:47:22 PM
just seen the 90s average for iceborne - kind of surprised at the good reviews, considering the difficulty level. :goldberg
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Post by: Himu on September 13, 2019, 10:52:23 PM
How is World an improvement on MH gameplay?
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Post by: Bebpo on September 13, 2019, 11:49:43 PM
Combat & multi-player. More environment interaction, combat options and depth.
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Post by: paprikastaude on September 14, 2019, 01:47:20 AM
More natural animations, instead of waiting half a minute to pick a few flower or standing still for a drink. No more mandatory flower picking quests. Heftier combat feedback. Mounting doesn't feel tacked on anymore. No more running into accidental loading screens because the monster is stuck on the edge of some shitty tiny map. Cleansed up menus. More tactical options plus environmental interaction. Better traversal. Quick item menu. Cleansing redundancies like breakable grindstones.
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Post by: Himu on September 14, 2019, 03:10:37 PM
I've never had an issue with any of those.
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Post by: Svejk on September 14, 2019, 03:14:17 PM
Been tempted to get back into this again also.
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Post by: Akala on September 14, 2019, 05:00:14 PM
Eh whatever, grabbed on steam.  :doge
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Post by: paprikastaude on September 15, 2019, 12:32:37 AM
New Beetlejuice :notlikethis :gamer

Savage Jho rushing in to slap it 8k damage :gladbron :preach :whoo :heyman :dsp :rejoice
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Post by: Bebpo on September 15, 2019, 10:47:08 PM
Did Coral Pukei, again fired up my SOS after the cutscene and...no one ever joined. I'm getting kinda sick of Iceborne being weirdly empty compared to MHW. Not sure what to think. Did tons of casual people jump in for Monster Hunter World but never beat it and so the audience for Iceborne is small? Hmmm, will be interesting to see what the sales are.

Anyhow, Coral Pukei was a pretty fun variant because the moves are so different it's pretty much an entirely new monster. Took it down in 28 mins. Next up is Barioth. Never fought him in GU/XX so this will be all new for me!
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Post by: Bebpo on September 16, 2019, 05:12:17 AM
So I messed around with some Master Rank and High Rank online quests just joining SOS stuff and beating quests in like 10 mins getting loot. Then I tried taking on BARIOTH.

Since I never fought Barioth in GU/XX I thought he was just some sabertooth tiger monster, no big deal.
 :doge

...no he's a giant leaping fucking Tigrex kinda dragon with INSANE ICE TAIL swipe, crazy movement ice tornadoes, huge range fast shoulder check, etc....

I tried him single player for a bit with slow hammer and at first was getting wrecked, then found some safe spots and did ok for a while then died.

Got in a 4p match and it was easily the most intense and challenging monster I've fought in all of World + Iceborne as well as GU/XX. Fight was pretty epic and we had 2 faints and I was doing a lot of run in and get some hits and run away and heal tactics so I didn't wipe our group. I took out both his front legs which was supposed to slow down mobility but he still seemed as fast idk. Then our sword guy took off the tail which definitely helped on the giant tail swipes. We kept the pressure and cleared around 33 mins.

Crazy good fight. Is Baroith considered an Elder Dragon because it sure seemed Elder Dragon material. I can't believe the moveset he has with that speed and wall climbing and range. Insane monster fight.

lol, just googled him in GU/XX and he's like a tiny little baby. They dramatically beefed him up in Iceborne. He's so much bigger so he hits in a much much bigger radius and he also seems more aggressive and faster in Iceborne compared to this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KudKxnoc1S4
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Post by: paprikastaude on September 22, 2019, 12:00:53 PM
I don't get the postgame :doge
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Post by: Bebpo on October 04, 2019, 02:57:20 AM
Tried to get back to this but after 2 hours of wipes against Glavenus with like 3 different teams, I don't know if I have it in me. You really need to find a good team or these higher end Master Rank fights are just a time waster. Glavenus doesn't even hit that hard as long as you back off him when he bits his tail and maybe does the spinning 1 hit KO attack. Dunno why everyone is always dying :(

My biggest issue with Glavenus isn't staying alive, but as a hammer user getting hits in because he is always moving and it's hard to get openings.
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Post by: Bebpo on October 05, 2019, 12:45:06 AM
Yay, Era carried me through Glavenus and I got lucky having a good 4p team for Narcuga and cleared. Narcuga didn't seem that hard until I realized he had MR HP pool and is very fast and does 75% HP damage in one good tail swipe so longer the fight drags on more room for mistakes and dying. Both are pretty fun here.

Next up Tigrex & Brachy. I probably should try to upgrade my stuff. I was watching a youtube vid of a hammer user vs. Glavenus and he's doing like 150 damage on small hits and 300 damage+ on big hits and I'm doing like 80 damage & 180 damage for those on my rarity 9, 1200 atk raw bone tree hammer. Should grind out some rarity 10 elemental hammers.
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Post by: Bebpo on October 09, 2019, 12:48:06 AM
Built a free element set

Added 600 thunder to my hammer

 :o
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Post by: Bebpo on October 09, 2019, 02:20:39 AM
Took out Brachy & Tigrex. Both are really buffed up here compared to XX where I remember Brachy just being goofy and Tigrex was fine outside some fast leaps. Brachy is so fast and explodes everywhere alwayssss. I really hate my Hammer's short reach for these big monsters. Had a 2p match and it took us like 40 mins and 3 turf wars of damage to take him but we did with 2 faints.

Tigrex is just crazy. So.much.damage, and so fast and large hit radius. He just destroys randoms in multiplayer. Wiped the first 4p team I tried and the team was pretty good. Then did another 4p team and team had to bust out every item they've got. I'd never seen any other monster in World get all the players to just launch trap after trap after trap and use every turf war possible to get every opening they could. I think we cleared him pretty quick in like 16-20 mins, but we had 2 faints and almost wiped. Intense fight and being in the poison build up pit for a lot of it sure doesn't help.

Then did the main Velkhana fight #1 in solo. Wasn't bad outside again short hammer range making it hard to get hits in. But beat it in like 21 mins.

Unlocked next tier and Shrieking Legiana. Definitely will need to kit out some Ice resistance for this guy. Seems fast and aggressive af compared to the normal version. Main danger seems to be the huge radius ice blast attack that's almost like a Kirin type lightning blast.

Rocking a Free element/Thunder Atk Iron+ gear which works with my Bone tree hammer that has thunder sealed as its element. Have around 772 DEF. Can drop it to like 712 if I wanna focus more on slugger stuns but things are hitting pretty hard so would rather have the DEF.
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Post by: Bebpo on October 09, 2019, 11:17:40 PM
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TWO
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Shreiking Legiana was bullshit. Camera suckssss for that mission. Ugh.
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Post by: Bebpo on October 10, 2019, 12:18:10 AM
So with Fulgar Agajanth being thunder and my hammer being thunder I tried switching to Longsword which I have and is water. No one joined my SOS so I was doing it solo and he hits so.fucking.hard even with 20+ thunder def. He'd basically 2 shot me. I cut his tail off but ran out of healing items, had 2 feints and with my tiny HP bar could be one-shotted.

Was 30 mins in at that point, on my last legs and put a trap down having no idea if he was low enough HP to trap but figure it was worth a shot because otherwise I'm gonna wipe. Got him in the trap and tranq'd him and it captured him phew.

I definitely need to up my DEF at this point in 4-star MR.
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Post by: Bebpo on October 11, 2019, 04:21:47 AM
Took down Ebony Oga~ on first try with a 3 person team. Wasn't too bad. The other 2 people carted towards the end and was worried they were gonna wipe us so I started throwing down traps but he wasn't low enough HP to tranq, so we beat on him and then threw down another trap and still wasn't enough and beat on him some more and after the 3rd trap attempt he was limping and we captured on the 4th trap thankfully.

Built an Efflua~~ resistant charm for Acidic Glavenus and blocked out Stun through decorations. Gave it a go solo with my hammer, but gave up 15 mins in after my first faint because I just wasn't hitting him enough and was worried I wouldn't clear in 60 mins solo hammer. His head hangs so high up almost none of my attacks can reach him :( Will do this in multiplayer next time.

Up to around 1400 ATK w/500ish thunder and ~20% affinity. Feel pretty ok with that. If I use the Defense charm can get to ~802 DEF pre-food.
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Post by: Bebpo on October 13, 2019, 03:33:20 AM
Wooo, cleared the title cover Elder. When you have a good 4p team the game is so much fun. We had a healer that constantly healed everyone and basically helped make the battle a fun breeze.
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Post by: paprikastaude on October 13, 2019, 02:46:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S7Ssj-VZMc
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Post by: Bebpo on October 13, 2019, 11:21:56 PM
Looking forward to Rajang. The monster interaction animations are really great (and the free damage is nice).

Did Seething Bazaelgeese. Fight was fun with a good 4p but damn enraged he does crazy damage. I got knocked into one of the purple giant bombs and was combo 1-shotted along with another guy on our team. Lost 2 faints at the same time. Luckily still cleared.

Had some trouble with the "find the Elders" investigation thing, spent like 30 mins running around a map trying to find them twice. Next time will just google. I don't like how the tracks are like nowhere near where they are. Tried Blackveil Hazaak but had the gear and with HP in 1/2 was trouble. Need to build a set for this fight. 4 fights left until post-game! Getting there!

I like how every fight after the first 1/3rd feels like an epic battle and you gotta prep build for fights and have a good team and then kick some ass and win just barely. Difficulty level here is definitely what World should've been.
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Post by: Bebpo on October 14, 2019, 04:19:53 AM
So I got gated for the first with Blackveil Vaal Hazak because I don't have Effluvia Resistance gear or decos (I have one lvl.1 deco).
I searched for MR gear with Effluvia Res and the only ones were a Girros piece with crap defense and an Acidic Glavenus helm with 2 lvls of Effluvia res and a lvl.4 slot and good DEF.

I had one investigation with Acidic Glavenus to try to get the mats, but it was a fight Acidic Glavenus & Ebony Odogaron in Rotton Vale. I went in just to check it out but ended up solo-ing the whole thing with 5 mins to spare (out of 50 mins). Got an Acidic Glavenus only investigation opened up from that and all the mats for the helm with +2 effluvia resistance except ...one spinshell mat :(

Still, definitely learned how to fight both Acidic and Ebony with a hammer from that experience. Shouldn't be a problem to do the Acidic only investigation and hopefully will get my one spineshell and make the helm so can fight Blackveil Vaal.

First time I've had to grind in Iceborne, but if it only takes a couple hours of investigations that's not too terrible I guess. Will try to get a 4p team for the Acidic Glavenus only investigation next time I play and then take down Vaal in 4p and get down to the last 3 final bosses before post-game. I never really got into the post-game in the original since I'm not big on grinding, so I just wanna beat the main Iceborne story and get to post-game and then bail if it's too much of a grind (would like to get to Zinogre at least). ~85 hours game right now with the original being around 55 hours, so 30-ish in Iceborne which is solid.
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Post by: Bebpo on October 15, 2019, 02:47:26 AM
Got my Effluvia Resist+3 gear and a good 4p team against Blackveil Vaal and we wiped after 32 mins (no carts on me)  :'(

This is a rough fight. He can hit so hard (one rage mode blast can do like 75% of my HP with 180 HP and DEF 820) that a bad hit can wipe someone and his HP is enormous so it's a long ass fight. Might be a few days until I get past this fucker.

Or I can just solo him. Pretty sure with infinite HP from my cat heals and my cat distracts I could solo it fine but would take like 40-50 mins probably.
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Post by: Bebpo on October 17, 2019, 12:55:58 AM
Era helped me take out Blackveil in 2p downing him in 20 mins
Dunno how the fuck we wiped at 32 mins in 4p

Unlocked Nam and watched the cutscene, decked out in:

Water res lvl.3 (20+ now)
HP boost Lvl.3 (+50)
Divine blessing lvl.3 (50%)
Stun resist lvl.3 complete resist
Speed eating
Defense boost lvl.7 (I know everyone slags on it but I use a Def lvl.4 charm and that extra 50-100 DEF is nice)

Yaaaa, I am still beginner at Monhun so on G-rank elders and stuff I go full defense build so I can fuck up a lot and not cart and get my teammates pissed at me.

Also running ATK boost lvl.2
Expert lvl.3 or so (~15% affinity)
Part breaker lvl.1
Slugger lvl.1
And some attack boost
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Post by: Bebpo on October 17, 2019, 03:04:03 AM
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Nam down. Was a fun fight, reminded me of some of the most fantastically XX Elder fights with the tsunamis and divebombs and electric currents. My thunder hammer (my only high rank hammer I have to use) was rated "X" for efficiency and I definitely saw that doing like 30-40 damage per hit  :'(

Had one guy join me about 7 mins in and we cleared in 41 mins just in time. No faints, but not a lot of damage.

Got to Nerg, luckily thunder seems to do nicely against him, so fight should go better than the last. Was able to get the end of the weapon tree for the bone hammer I'm using (Earth Ender III) so I've got a little over 1500 damage + 500ish thunder.

End is in sight!
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Post by: Bebpo on October 17, 2019, 03:16:22 AM
Also, I gotta say Iceborne has an insane amount of content.

In the 50 hours it's going to take me to get through the main Iceborne story, it's been nothing but new monsters. I think I fought a Kulu-Yaku once and maybe Pukei-Pukei and that's about it for fighting Master Rank versions of old monsters. And since the MR versions are slightly different and their aggressiveness feels fresh, that means there's still like MHW vanilla MR monsters to fight even after I'm done with the Iceborne stuff.

I guess maybe you were supposed to fight some of the MHW Vanilla MR elders during the elder research missions at the end, but once I noticed that I got like 50% of the research bar from just going in and grabbing 5 mins of tracks and returning from expedition, it just seemed quicker to do that 2-3x than do a 20-40 min Elder fight so didn't bother fighting them.

Iceborne definitely seems like the best MH game. Could easily put another hundred hours or so into the post-game and grinding out Vanilla MR monsters and their sets, plus Iceborne weapons.


One thing I need to do after I beat Iceborne main story is to go back and clear the 3 High Rank monsters I never beat now that I'm overpowered for HR. Need a clear on Lunastra, Behemoth and the Witcher sidequest which I haven't even started.
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Post by: Bebpo on October 18, 2019, 04:01:56 PM
Beat this last night   :hyper

Nerg was hard, but also seemed kinda low HP, short and over fast. I hear it's because his MR99 form is the real one. Too bad I doubt I'll spend the grind to get to MR99 and fight him. Will watch a youtube run to see what he's like. One thing that was tough for me on Nerg was I'm so used to using clutch claw combos with my hammer in Iceborne (end every combo with a clutch grab and smash) and because Nerg is spikey I'd take damage when I tried to clutch claw him after a combo and get knocked off. This meant I lost about 1/3rd of my damage per combo.

The final boss was way easier than expected. Compared to Xeno'Jiva that seriously gave me issues and was impossible to clear with MP randoms (ended up solo-ing it in a 40 min battle), this dude had really simple telegraphed moves and you basically just stayed behind him and you're mostly safe. Still had one 4p wipe from people getting one shotted by blasts, but beat it with my second 4p team.

Anyhow, it was kind of a neat boss in how you break pieces off him until he becomes final form.

Got into guilding lands and unlocked the Rajang quest. Will start on the post-game when I have some time and clear up HR Lunastra, Behemoth and Witcher.

Great game.