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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Stoney Mason on March 28, 2018, 02:34:54 PM

Title: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 28, 2018, 02:34:54 PM
Basically I want a thread where people can actually post potentially longer video content without it being shitted up by agenda posting or just meme posting or one poster versus 100 forums wars like that other thread started by etoilet. Videos can be about anything but would appreciate less useless content so its not a waste of my time to ever enter the thread.

Random examples below pulled out of my ass.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fQtxKmgJC8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ujd3XzS8Yk&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTRUQ-RKfUs&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZRgVX8SYX4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNb-twWyEz8&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Momo on March 28, 2018, 03:02:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y91Zr480Tn4

something not a lot of people know about me, but I love aircraft. If you know me irl it's super obvious haha.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncXGRqdofKw

Huge fan of this young lady, got laughed out of the movie thread for being a 30 min video but maybe this can work here
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 28, 2018, 03:24:33 PM
I've pimped these videos before in another thread but I'll do it again here. Obscurus Lupa posts reviews of bad movies and TV shows that are funny but her magnum opus is her baywatching series where she reviews every single baywatch episode. She's not even halfway yet. I think they are hilarious.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZrV85x-P4U&index=73&list=PLzSaABvhwN1NVzkxm86VLsslYmThKtVu0&t=0s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2nAMQ5aPRQ&list=PLzSaABvhwN1NVzkxm86VLsslYmThKtVu0&index=101

Complete playlist

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzSaABvhwN1NVzkxm86VLsslYmThKtVu0 (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzSaABvhwN1NVzkxm86VLsslYmThKtVu0)

Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Atramental on March 28, 2018, 03:30:23 PM
https://youtu.be/Gwx9nqknu-c
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 28, 2018, 03:43:59 PM
Down the Rabbit Hole is a pretty good series. The Timecube one was kinda sad. :'(
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 28, 2018, 03:53:57 PM
Is... is this an etoilet free zone?
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: etiolate on March 28, 2018, 04:16:29 PM
Well you assholes fucked up my thread for no reason. I could be nice and not return the favor.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: etiolate on March 28, 2018, 04:57:38 PM
the tetris story is a good one
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 28, 2018, 05:45:57 PM
One of the biggest battles in EVE Online history:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iQw3YcLoQU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLqb-m1ZZUA

Not a lot to discuss, I suppose, but I've always found this kind of thing really fascinating.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Optimus on March 28, 2018, 06:04:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncXGRqdofKw

Huge fan of this young lady, got laughed out of the movie thread for being a 30 min video but maybe this can work here



Great video, btw I was waiting for her to mention Blade Runner, I knew she was one of us.

But, but I have the solution for the Oscars ratings without wasting you 30 mins. Just one name: Bill Burr. Make him a host and let him loose on those pretentious assholes and watch ratings go through the roof. I'd give my left pinky to watch that.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 28, 2018, 06:28:38 PM
I randomly watched a clip from the 1992 Oscars on youtube a couple weeks ago and was immediately struck by the nonstop flurry of iconic actors and big movies. IMO the thing that hurts the Oscars most now is that these new stars don't really fucking matter, and nobody sees the films nominated for major awards. In 1992 the Best Picture noms were:

Silence Of The Lambs (winner)
Beauty And The Beast
Bugsy
JFK
The Prince Of Tides

All successful films to varying degrees, and most feature major actors. Warren Beaty, Barbara Streisand, Kevin Costner, Anthony Hopkins, etc. Whereas today...who gives a fuck about anyone in The Shape Of Water?

The films people see today won't even sniff an Oscar nom, ie cape shit and various remakes and blockbuster sequels. There's seemingly not much room or interest in smaller films today, so those films go largely unnoticed. Then awards season comes around and no one has seen anything outside of...whatever Jennifer Lawrence starred in I guess.


:yeshrug

Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: team filler on March 28, 2018, 08:12:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NELC2NLC3SQ
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 29, 2018, 03:45:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOE-lNs6qe4

 :clap :clap :clap
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: HardcoreRetro on March 29, 2018, 03:52:18 PM
Long video discussion thread that isn't shit

"Random examples below pulled out of my ass."

 :idont
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 29, 2018, 04:02:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxkrdLI6e6M
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: paprikastaude on March 29, 2018, 04:14:40 PM
I randomly watched a clip from the 1992 Oscars on youtube a couple weeks ago and was immediately struck by the nonstop flurry of iconic actors and big movies. IMO the thing that hurts the Oscars most now is that these new stars don't really fucking matter, and nobody sees the films nominated for major awards. In 1992 the Best Picture noms were:

Silence Of The Lambs (winner)
Beauty And The Beast
Bugsy
JFK
The Prince Of Tides

All successful films to varying degrees, and most feature major actors. Warren Beaty, Barbara Streisand, Kevin Costner, Anthony Hopkins, etc. Whereas today...who gives a fuck about anyone in The Shape Of Water?

The films people see today won't even sniff an Oscar nom, ie cape shit and various remakes and blockbuster sequels. There's seemingly not much room or interest in smaller films today, so those films go largely unnoticed. Then awards season comes around and no one has seen anything outside of...whatever Jennifer Lawrence starred in I guess.


:yeshrug

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/

Quote
    1   N   Pacific Rim Uprising   Uni.   $28,116,535   -   3,708   -   $7,583   $28,116,535   $150   1
    2   1   Black Panther   BV   $17,099,618   -35.8%   3,370   -464   $5,074   $631,357,854   -   6
    3   3   I Can Only Imagine   RAtt.   $13,604,521   -20.5%   2,253   +624   $6,038   $38,084,012   $7   2
    4   N   Sherlock Gnomes   Par.   $10,604,774   -   3,662   -   $2,896   $10,604,774   $59   1
    5   2   Tomb Raider   WB   $10,102,616   -57.3%   3,854   -   $2,621   $41,420,724   $94   2
    6   4   A Wrinkle in Time   BV   $8,215,492   -49.5%   3,423   -557   $2,400   $74,058,099   -   3
    7   5   Love, Simon   Fox   $7,607,451   -35.3%   2,434   +32   $3,125   $23,503,052   $17   2
    8   N   Paul, Apostle of Christ   Sony   $5,172,585   -   1,473   -   $3,512   $5,172,585   $5   1
    9   6   Game Night   WB (NL)   $4,131,191   -26.3%   1,866   -820   $2,214   $60,784,726   $37   5
    10   N   Midnight Sun   Global Road   $4,003,993   -   2,173   -   $1,843   $4,003,993   -   1
    11   N   Unsane   BST   $3,762,145   -   2,023   -   $1,860   $3,762,145   -   1
    12   7   Peter Rabbit   Sony   $2,538,560   -51.2%   2,071   -654   $1,226   $106,805,275   $50   7
    13   9   Red Sparrow   Fox   $2,248,846   -50.4%   1,482   -1,101   $1,517   $44,044,846   $69   4
    14   8   Strangers: Prey at Night   Aviron   $2,062,768   -56.1%   1,481   -983   $1,393   $22,201,687   -   3
    15   N   Isle Of Dogs   FoxS   $1,615,269   -   27   -   $59,825   $1,615,269   -   1
    16   10   Death Wish (2018)   MGM   $1,218,524   -63.8%   1,304   -1,372   $934   $32,616,646   $30   4
    17   19   The Death of Stalin   IFC   $1,007,003   +87.4%   141   +109   $7,142   $2,037,426   -   3
    18   11   Annihilation   Par.   $898,364   -48.2%   478   -609   $1,879   $31,416,769   $40   5
    19   12   Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle   Sony   $847,706   -47.8%   1,022   -534   $829   $401,666,156   $90   14
    20   14   The Greatest Showman[/li]
[/quote]

:holeup
There isn't even anything for success vs. quality to meet in the middle anymore. 
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Dennis on March 29, 2018, 04:31:52 PM
I randomly watched a clip from the 1992 Oscars on youtube a couple weeks ago and was immediately struck by the nonstop flurry of iconic actors and big movies. IMO the thing that hurts the Oscars most now is that these new stars don't really fucking matter, and nobody sees the films nominated for major awards. In 1992 the Best Picture noms were:

Silence Of The Lambs (winner)
Beauty And The Beast
Bugsy
JFK
The Prince Of Tides

All successful films to varying degrees, and most feature major actors. Warren Beaty, Barbara Streisand, Kevin Costner, Anthony Hopkins, etc. Whereas today...who gives a fuck about anyone in The Shape Of Water?

The films people see today won't even sniff an Oscar nom, ie cape shit and various remakes and blockbuster sequels. There's seemingly not much room or interest in smaller films today, so those films go largely unnoticed. Then awards season comes around and no one has seen anything outside of...whatever Jennifer Lawrence starred in I guess.


:yeshrug

I haven't seen Shape of Water yet but I did see Three Billboards, another big Oscar winner this year.

And....it wasn't a bad movie, I liked it well enough, but man the hyperbole....
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 29, 2018, 05:03:25 PM
Phoenix mostly covers it, but there is simply a larger divide between the movies that people pay to go see and the movies that the academy wants to reward to reflect their artistry.

The divide isn't new but the lack of genre diversity among the top box office films has exacerbated the process.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Dennis on March 29, 2018, 05:43:16 PM
In terms of artistry I would to put Blade Runner 2049 at the top of my list. The story didn't quite grab me as much as I had hoped and the soundtrack was not as good as Vangelis score for the first one but other than that it should have taken home buckets of oscars.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 29, 2018, 05:51:00 PM
Well it did win two in technical categories.

Taste is always variable. I wasn't a big fan of Shape of Water but certain segments seemed to like that movie
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Nintex on March 29, 2018, 05:54:20 PM
Blade Runner 2049 is such a good movie that I could hardly believe it exists in this day and age.

I think Star power has mostly been hit with inflation by Marvel. They obviously don't want another RDJ situation where they have to pay millions to continue a movie series.
So instead they just throw as many stars as possible in the new movies all fighting for 5 or 10 minutes of screen time beating CGI armies. Chris Hemsworth is not the star, like Bruce Willis of Robert de Niro was. Thor is.
If you have like 3 Chris's competing in front of the same green screen they kinda become a blur. Even if the movie is about one character, they still have 3 or 4 heroes on screen anyway.

The time when big actors or actresses would carry movies on their own is pretty much over. Especially with the likes of Kevin Spacey now shitcanned because of his adventures.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 29, 2018, 05:58:06 PM
I would have been fine with Blade Runner winning more awards. Hell my favorite of the oscar movies was phantom thread which didn't even make back its budget. But the same debate would still be in place.

Blade Runner wasn't an especially mainstream movie and nobody saw it outside of film nerds. So while I think its a better movie than Shape of Water, its not a movie that the masses identify with.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: etiolate on March 29, 2018, 06:04:24 PM
Sherlock Gnomes > Tomb Raider
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 29, 2018, 06:08:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH1vhiKkn5E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvN51r1o1Nc&t=4345s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuShB-g2eog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QGpsvlrdPA&t=1979s

I like these guys mostly.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on March 29, 2018, 09:51:26 PM
I randomly watched a clip from the 1992 Oscars on youtube a couple weeks ago and was immediately struck by the nonstop flurry of iconic actors and big movies. IMO the thing that hurts the Oscars most now is that these new stars don't really fucking matter, and nobody sees the films nominated for major awards. In 1992 the Best Picture noms were:

Silence Of The Lambs (winner)
Beauty And The Beast
Bugsy
JFK
The Prince Of Tides

All successful films to varying degrees, and most feature major actors. Warren Beaty, Barbara Streisand, Kevin Costner, Anthony Hopkins, etc. Whereas today...who gives a fuck about anyone in The Shape Of Water?

The films people see today won't even sniff an Oscar nom, ie cape shit and various remakes and blockbuster sequels. There's seemingly not much room or interest in smaller films today, so those films go largely unnoticed. Then awards season comes around and no one has seen anything outside of...whatever Jennifer Lawrence starred in I guess.


:yeshrug
People won't see smaller films, such as... JFK, Beauty and the Beast, and Silence Of The Lambs? Also every movie you listed had a bigger budget that TSAW even without factoring inflation lol
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: TVC15 on March 29, 2018, 09:53:51 PM
https://youtu.be/00iCAa0XYR8
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 29, 2018, 09:58:10 PM
I randomly watched a clip from the 1992 Oscars on youtube a couple weeks ago and was immediately struck by the nonstop flurry of iconic actors and big movies. IMO the thing that hurts the Oscars most now is that these new stars don't really fucking matter, and nobody sees the films nominated for major awards. In 1992 the Best Picture noms were:

Silence Of The Lambs (winner)
Beauty And The Beast
Bugsy
JFK
The Prince Of Tides

All successful films to varying degrees, and most feature major actors. Warren Beaty, Barbara Streisand, Kevin Costner, Anthony Hopkins, etc. Whereas today...who gives a fuck about anyone in The Shape Of Water?

The films people see today won't even sniff an Oscar nom, ie cape shit and various remakes and blockbuster sequels. There's seemingly not much room or interest in smaller films today, so those films go largely unnoticed. Then awards season comes around and no one has seen anything outside of...whatever Jennifer Lawrence starred in I guess.


:yeshrug
People won't see smaller films, such as... JFK, Beauty and the Beast, and Silence Of The Lambs? Also every movie you listed had a bigger budget that TSAW even without factoring inflation lol

Not saying those are smaller films, I was making an additional point that there are fewer small films today. Hell there are fewer "medium" films or whatever you want to call them.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: tiesto on March 29, 2018, 10:02:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7qGy1jxsM0
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: TVC15 on March 30, 2018, 03:52:45 PM
https://youtu.be/-qB3El5K_Pk
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 30, 2018, 05:12:22 PM
https://youtu.be/-qB3El5K_Pk

ty for this
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on March 30, 2018, 05:16:40 PM
I randomly watched a clip from the 1992 Oscars on youtube a couple weeks ago and was immediately struck by the nonstop flurry of iconic actors and big movies. IMO the thing that hurts the Oscars most now is that these new stars don't really fucking matter, and nobody sees the films nominated for major awards. In 1992 the Best Picture noms were:

Silence Of The Lambs (winner)
Beauty And The Beast
Bugsy
JFK
The Prince Of Tides

All successful films to varying degrees, and most feature major actors. Warren Beaty, Barbara Streisand, Kevin Costner, Anthony Hopkins, etc. Whereas today...who gives a fuck about anyone in The Shape Of Water?

The films people see today won't even sniff an Oscar nom, ie cape shit and various remakes and blockbuster sequels. There's seemingly not much room or interest in smaller films today, so those films go largely unnoticed. Then awards season comes around and no one has seen anything outside of...whatever Jennifer Lawrence starred in I guess.


:yeshrug
People won't see smaller films, such as... JFK, Beauty and the Beast, and Silence Of The Lambs? Also every movie you listed had a bigger budget that TSAW even without factoring inflation lol

Not saying those are smaller films, I was making an additional point that there are fewer small films today. Hell there are fewer "medium" films or whatever you want to call them.

I don't think that's actually true though. Blockbusters get a lot more visibility but there are dozens of indie distribution companies thriving these days. Annapurna, a24, lionsgate, amazon, magnolia, focus, to name a few off the top of my head
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 30, 2018, 05:31:18 PM
I don’t think it’s that people don’t want to see actor-driven, story-driven, auteur movies anymore, it’s just that they don’t care about seeing them in theaters. You go to the theater to got your eyeballs blown out by the Walt Disney Corporation, and then go home and rent Three Billboards on Amazon.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: hungrynoob on March 30, 2018, 06:29:55 PM
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C_-HLD21hA
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: headwalk on March 30, 2018, 10:10:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7X6Yeydgyg
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: El Babua on March 30, 2018, 11:17:20 PM
One of my favorite Youtubers is Isaac Arthur, he's got a lot of interesting vids regarding the future of humanity and the possibilities of alien life while regarding the Fermi Paradox. If you can get past his speech impediment, he makes some of the best vids out there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pld8wTa16Jk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlgyxQJHHcY&t=1327s
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Raist on March 31, 2018, 05:33:36 AM
What the fuck is this accent.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: HardcoreRetro on March 31, 2018, 05:41:08 AM
Rhotacism with brooklyn accent.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Raist on March 31, 2018, 05:57:43 AM
Rhotacism

Learned a new word today :ohhh

Doesn't sound like an "R" problem tho? Then again it's barely a thing in english :yeshrug

But the whole "filtooor" thing throws me off.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Momo on March 31, 2018, 06:16:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4k3zTS6leE

why does the narrator sound like a robot?
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Rufus on March 31, 2018, 10:51:42 AM
It is a robot.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: agrajag on March 31, 2018, 11:19:02 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4k3zTS6leE

why does the narrator sound like a robot?

Because most of those airplane videos are pumped out from Asian countries for a quick buck and they use a bot to narrate them.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: TVC15 on March 31, 2018, 11:20:58 AM
For my RuRu girls.

https://youtu.be/3lgcBZdMZxM
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Coax on March 31, 2018, 11:41:29 AM
It is a robot.

The voice reminds me of the darkly comical text-to-speech adaptation (https://my.mixtape.moe/dopnee.flac) 4chan made years ago from an excerpt of Elliot Rodger's ridiculous and disturbed fantasies from his 'Day of Retribution' manifesto, set to classical music.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 03, 2018, 01:36:11 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=BQCPj-bGYro

Haven't actually watched this one yet, so don't know if it's crap or not
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Momo on April 03, 2018, 02:23:36 AM
 :hhh
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: headwalk on April 03, 2018, 10:55:40 AM
https://vimeo.com/139745603

loved everything about this. like the polybius one above, i love anything that gets its spooks from unsettling social enigma.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: TVC15 on April 03, 2018, 11:01:38 AM
https://youtu.be/1ARGT7cOt4s


<3 muh man
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Atramental on April 03, 2018, 11:35:05 AM
https://youtu.be/NgGLFozNM2o

https://youtu.be/vjCS_u3Sgpg
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 03, 2018, 12:28:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHpXle4NqWI

not a new video or anything but I'm such a fan of Classic Looney tunes, I had to toss the video in.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Momo on April 04, 2018, 11:03:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1soNrc1hn4Y
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: TVC15 on April 04, 2018, 11:07:20 AM
https://youtu.be/ugp8a7B9izw
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: etiolate on April 04, 2018, 04:47:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd_CnRkKOqA
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Rahxephon91 on April 04, 2018, 05:28:50 PM
Anyone have any recomendations in the world of comics? Anime?
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 04, 2018, 06:19:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElPJr_tKkO4&
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Momo on April 04, 2018, 11:34:51 PM
Anyone have any recomendations in the world of comics? Anime?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip5CpjXR4CI

This is my favorite


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkXFBPGZpTM
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: TVC15 on April 07, 2018, 05:45:53 PM
https://youtu.be/bR-f--2l1OM
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 07, 2018, 05:46:58 PM
Damn I love Lindsay Ellis
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: benjipwns on April 08, 2018, 04:58:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtJ28qOEG1g
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: team filler on April 09, 2018, 08:27:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swe3EOKCbFI&t=4s
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Atramental on April 09, 2018, 09:07:10 PM
https://youtu.be/u8Oh1L1aN8M
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: etiolate on April 11, 2018, 02:50:24 PM
I have a request for a video.

There's a handful of youtubes on Frank Dux/Bloodsport false identity story, but I haven't found a really good one yet. If anyone has a suggestion, plz share.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Raist on April 11, 2018, 05:09:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swe3EOKCbFI&t=4s

Are you for real? What next, a documentary about flat earth? :lol
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Momo on April 13, 2018, 01:22:09 AM
I have a request for a video.

There's a handful of youtubes on Frank Dux/Bloodsport false identity story, but I haven't found a really good one yet. If anyone has a suggestion, plz share.
https://youtu.be/9TGJcugOi18
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: team filler on April 13, 2018, 05:04:45 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IehtMYlOuIk
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: team filler on April 13, 2018, 07:22:10 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swe3EOKCbFI&t=4s

Are you for real? What next, a documentary about flat earth? :lol
(https://i.imgur.com/SolxMyE.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/rvEM930.jpg)
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: agrajag on April 13, 2018, 09:10:19 AM
the random talk thread sparked my curiousity about sovereign citizens, so I found this informative video

 https://youtu.be/_Wwdvv0f4AI
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: team filler on April 13, 2018, 09:19:18 AM
gamecube!
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 18, 2018, 05:01:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=mDvF23NloxY
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 25, 2018, 02:03:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi7t_g5QObs
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 25, 2018, 11:29:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL0dbUnIHKY&


relevant because of today's news.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/25/us/golden-state-killer-serial.html
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Momo on April 26, 2018, 03:10:01 AM
where's the discussion bros :goldberg
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: team filler on April 26, 2018, 03:17:05 AM
discussion can't be shit, if it ain't no discussion  :smug
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Momo on April 26, 2018, 03:31:33 AM
 :rollsafe
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 30, 2018, 10:41:43 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DloLoFd3Qvw
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 03, 2018, 04:55:26 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWtt3Tmnij4&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Trent Dole on May 03, 2018, 05:23:48 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LqZdkkBDas
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: headwalk on May 03, 2018, 08:05:44 AM
we've already got a thread for identity wankery.

this is the one that's worth actually looking at.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Trent Dole on May 03, 2018, 04:35:23 PM
Yeah, I hesitated posting it here and scrolled through previous things and figured with the sovereign citizen thing being here I could get away with it. :-[ And Contra's worth viewing. :punch
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Momo on May 04, 2018, 11:30:45 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8t-g5s5pvQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8t-g5s5pvQ

First video in ages :lawd
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 04, 2018, 11:38:08 AM
we've already got a thread for identity wankery.

this is the one that's worth actually looking at.

I don't mind an actual interesting political content video that is worthwhile but yeah I'd rather leave the phrenology debate to that other "intellectual" thread.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Atramental on May 04, 2018, 03:48:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcPJkz-D5II
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Atramental on May 04, 2018, 04:24:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5pggDCnt5M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUrV6oZ3zsk
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Atramental on May 04, 2018, 09:33:51 PM
https://youtu.be/351TKxYg7M4
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Atramental on May 05, 2018, 04:31:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQVb6Cd-w8s
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Momo on May 05, 2018, 04:48:44 PM
A friend of mine legit tried to talk me into some subsistence farming scheme in south america a few years ago 
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Atramental on May 05, 2018, 05:02:21 PM
I would do it if I had no other options in life/got fed up enough with modern society.



 :nsfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR0By_WyQ1g
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 06, 2018, 12:37:50 AM
https://youtu.be/IqVoEpRIaKg
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: TVC15 on May 09, 2018, 06:09:30 PM
https://youtu.be/ttbwqegeO_Q
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 12, 2018, 07:23:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh3s_Bgf3cQ&
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: paprikastaude on May 12, 2018, 08:41:18 AM
https://youtu.be/IqVoEpRIaKg

I miss edgy animu.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 12, 2018, 10:00:39 AM
I miss edgy animu.

That's why we need more Robotech!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrIm5lYSdTQ&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKJIOJwoep8
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Momo on May 13, 2018, 12:02:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq0kJR8usNI

this history guy has great vids
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Leadbelly on May 13, 2018, 11:10:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LqZdkkBDas

haha.

The video intially took me by surprise, because it seemed like she was actually being fair and reasonable about her opponent. She then switches it to "it is all a trojan horse to a reactionary political agenda". oh you!

This is the co-writer of Jonathan Pie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jgs4epz5Tk
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: agrajag on May 15, 2018, 01:22:29 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5c4vrXKtiI
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Leadbelly on May 15, 2018, 07:46:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5c4vrXKtiI

That's interesting. I would say they have a far bigger thing in common: that would be a growing concern that the Left is increasingly becoming authoritarian, anti-free speech, anti-elightenment, and anti-science. that is the more pressing concern these people have is it not?

The other thing is this guy (although I don't know enough about it) seems to look at it from a standpoint of classical Marxism, something I think at least some of these intellectuals would actually agree (although I don't know if he agress with it) is dead.

Certainly I think that is the case. Identity Politics, through its separating of identity groups and their grievances, encourages difference. Marxism was more about fostering solidarity through more universal causes. Common cause. The main focus of Modern Leftist politics seems to be more around minority issues. The main focus of Marxism is of course class.

That said, people on the far-left are not capitalists. You can't completely separate Marxist thought from Left-wing politics, it's just that the main focus has switched from proletariat vs bourgeoisie to oppressor and oppressed.

I don't particularly like the way Jordan Peterson defines the far-Left because it almost sounds like a conspiracy theory, whether he actually intends that or not. That said, I understand the need to define it a certain way. It isn't the Left in general that is problem in itself. You have to be more specfic. The Postmodern/neo-marxists seems to me to be an attempt by Peterson to more specifically define people he is critical of.

The point I am making is this guy seems to think they do not want to debate the side they attack, yet I actually think he misunderstands the people they are actually talking about. Also, trying to get some kind of debate with Peterson and not actually being able to speak with him because he has decided not to sign books, does not seem like adequate proof of him not wanting to debate. Again though, their opponents as they see them are more the intersectional identity politics types.

Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shitTh
Post by: Nola on May 15, 2018, 07:58:52 PM
This thread was kinda specifically created not to let it get itself inundated with the same derails and eventual nonsense from the Peterson thread, so i'll be brief, but I would point out leadbelly, that I, along with many others, addressed the argument about the left's supposed rise toward authoritarianism as a defense for these people's seemingly exclusive focus on the left in that thread.

By a slew of pretty convincing objective measures, authoritarianism seems much more on the rise on the right than the left right now. Same goes for the level of depth and breadth toward controlling speech. Older people are more in favor of curbing it and on a broader variety of things than younger people, and Republicans/conservatives more so than Democrats/liberals.

Only real point being, it continues to be vey hard for me to take credibly or seriously the catastrophizing of these anti-marxist "thinkers" that seem to struggle with some very basic facts and context.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shitTh
Post by: Leadbelly on May 15, 2018, 08:16:04 PM
This thread was kinda specifically created not to let it get itself inundated with the same derails and eventual nonsense from the Peterson thread, so i'll be brief, but I would point out leadbelly, that I, along with many others, addressed the argument about the left's supposed rise toward authoritarianism as a defense for these people's seemingly exclusive focus on the left in that thread.

By a slew of pretty convincing objective measures, authoritarianism seems much more on the rise on the right than the left right now. Same goes for the level of depth and breadth toward controlling speech. Older people are more in favor of curbing it and on a broader variety of things than younger people, and Republicans/conservatives more so than Democrats/liberals.

Well, supposedly this is a video 'discussion' thread. Which is why I am discussing a video...

Could you give me some examples. It is something I tend to do.

It terms of the Left, the authoritarianism is quite clearly evidenced in safe spaces, the constant attempts to shut down talks and lectures, cultural appropriation, increasing calls for censorship whether it be advertisments they don't like, or movies they don't like, etc. Calling anyone who has views they disagree with Nazis, facists, racists, etc. Doing away with due process with Title IX. Compelling people to use correct pronouns. The list goes on.

That's not to say the Right are necessarily better, however, in terms of Universities, the media, and corporations, it's the Left-wing version of political correctness and authoritarianism that is the problem

Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on May 15, 2018, 08:22:12 PM
cmon take it to the wank dad thread. let's keep the floor clean in here
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Leadbelly on May 15, 2018, 08:23:56 PM
Wait.. it's a discussion thread, no? That's what it says in the title.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: agrajag on May 15, 2018, 08:31:00 PM
cmon take it to the wank dad thread. let's keep the floor clean in here

That thread is garbage. I'm not an intellectual, neither is etoilet or anybody else. I refuse to participate in that marturbatory self aggrandizing trash thread.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Nola on May 15, 2018, 08:34:34 PM
Leadbelly:

Two links and I'll leave it there for good:
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45437.msg2419019#msg2419019
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45437.msg2420397#msg2420397

Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on May 15, 2018, 08:35:20 PM
That's why i'm lobbying to keep the masturbatory trash in the masturbatory trash thread lol
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: agrajag on May 15, 2018, 08:38:24 PM
That's why i'm lobbying to keep the masturbatory trash in the masturbatory trash thread lol

The video I posted is long and it doesn't suck. It fits the criteria or this thread.

 :idont

But I guess it fits the tone of that thread more.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Nola on May 15, 2018, 08:46:26 PM
That's why i'm lobbying to keep the masturbatory trash in the masturbatory trash thread lol

The video I posted is long and it doesn't suck. It fits the criteria or this thread.

 :idont

But I guess it fits the tone of that thread more.

To be clear on my end I was only talking about the argument I was letting myself walk down the path on addressing, which I figured would quickly become more suited for the other thread....Because I was pretty much walking it there.

No problem with the video.  :D
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on May 15, 2018, 09:05:00 PM
That's why i'm lobbying to keep the masturbatory trash in the masturbatory trash thread lol

The video I posted is long and it doesn't suck. It fits the criteria or this thread.

 :idont

But I guess it fits the tone of that thread more.

The latter part is my main gripe. The video is fine, and I'm in their corner on the subject for that matter, but i think it would be swell to keep this thread as a bunch of videos on a collection of various topics and contain the peterson back and forth in the thread we already have for that stuff
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: agrajag on May 15, 2018, 09:08:29 PM
sure, no problem
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Leadbelly on May 15, 2018, 09:44:09 PM
Leadbelly:

Two links and I'll leave it there for good:
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45437.msg2419019#msg2419019
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45437.msg2420397#msg2420397

Okay. I've not said the Right is necessarily any better than the Left in this regard. In fact this is why being on the side of free speech is extremely important. Who is on top can change. Those same speech restriction policies you were in agreement with could one day suddenly be used against you.

You say you don't understand why they are focusing on the Left so much because you see similar attitudes, but for different reasons on the Right. What I think you are missing is institutional power. So for example, universities are overwhelmingly liberal which is why the attacks on free speech are more likely to be from the Left. We're not simply talking about attitudes from the students, but the policies they are beginning to influence. Safe space policies, trigger warnings, dress codes at halloween, etc, they're not coming from the Right, it is coming from the Left. They are also creeping into other areas. As you know, Google for instance has a diversity department that has a particular ideological perspective. The very reason Peterson suddenly came into the spotlight was because of legislation to do with gender neutral pronouns.

Quote
Basically the one place that the left seems to take a harder line on free speech restrictions are when it comes to issues of prejudice. Which has always made me suspicious about why so many like Peterson only seem to give a shit about that particular inflection point of anti-prejudice and not the still much larger issue of people advocating restrictions on speech because of their prejudice??

I'm from the UK. We have hate speech laws in the UK. You may be aware of the Count Dankula incident, in which he was prosecuted for hate speech for making a Nazi joke. Very few people on the Left defended him. The majority of the protest actually came from the Right. The Left has pretty much completely abandoned free speech.

Why be against hate speech? The problem with hate speech is that it is vague and subjective. What exactly is 'hate' if you get my point. If you go back 60 years for instance, the LGBT community would have been considered grossly immoral and a degradation of society. Homosexuality of course was illegal in the UK until 1967. It took a bit more time to get wider acceptance. One thing LGBT campaigners knew back in those days was that free speech is extremely important. When you are faced with a society and a State that is hostile to you, all you have is free speech. Some people today seem not understand that hate speech laws even 60 years ago would have been used against them. Against their speech. In fact in terms of LGBT campaigners, don't take my word for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOb_r2A7NKM

The other thing is, once you normalise the idea that the State has the right to criminalise certain speech, you create a culture and climate where people grow up thinking no one has the right to offend them. That the state should step in. Then you get all kinds of special interest groups that say things like, "Wait a minute, if this speech is classed as hate speech, why not this other type of speech?". That's inevitable. So in the UK for instance there have been campaigns to make 'misogyny' a form of hate speech. You can really see the issue there. Misogyny no longer simply means 'hatred of women' it is used far more broadly than that by feminists and people on the Left. Pretty much anything criticisng 'feminism' could be construed as misogyny. And the way hate speech works, it is not intent that decides whether something is classed as hate speech or not, it is the person who took offence.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/amber-rudd-misogyny-hate-crime-change-law-prejudice-women-home-secretary-greens-mps-charities-a8196786.html

The left is silent. What they don't seem to grasp is, governments change. One day maybe a far-right government is voted in and they have the same legislative powers against 'hate speech' as any other government. It is a bad idea to allow the state to control speech. It is a bad idea historically, and it is a bad idea logically.

Peterson was against it because it was compelled speech by the State. I hope I have given you a god explanation of why you should be fully in support of Peterson on that. A lot of people on the Left it seems aren't. Certainly this is the case in the UK.


Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Nola on May 15, 2018, 10:27:34 PM
I'll hit this response up in the other thread later(though it seems much of it is sort of talking past most of the points I made so I am not sure how much I'm looking forward to that). Not gonna do this to Stoney.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: agrajag on May 15, 2018, 10:28:18 PM
This is all my fault

 :tocry
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Leadbelly on May 15, 2018, 10:59:34 PM
I'll hit this response up in the other thread later(though it seems much of it is sort of talking past most of the points I made so I am not sure how much I'm looking forward to that). Not gonna do this to Stoney.

Okay. I probably won't respond until tomorrow now.

Also I'm not sure I am talking past you, but rather coming at it from different perspective. I think this will become more clear when things are clarified.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Momo on May 15, 2018, 11:08:58 PM
Look at which videos you nerds want to discuss :goldberg
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 16, 2018, 06:32:16 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpXFB8ZEH30

I always am saddened by the fact that the pre-IBM pc compatible computers of the world that use to dominate, are generally given such short shrift in the history books.

Oh C64. I was so jealous of you being an Atari guy.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 19, 2018, 04:55:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vinqph-g5QI
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 23, 2018, 06:27:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=925NuW2PnBo&list=WL&index=1

https://www.vox.com/world/2018/5/22/17379674/venezuela-election-results-maduro-won-sanctions
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Atramental on May 28, 2018, 10:43:18 PM
https://youtu.be/vHOJMGQ3exo

https://youtu.be/8e1g-0n8iGo

https://youtu.be/N9fI40Nni3k
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Atramental on May 29, 2018, 07:12:04 AM
https://youtu.be/RJfurfb5_kw
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Rufus on May 29, 2018, 09:50:26 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU1LhcEh8Ms
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 31, 2018, 02:13:12 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URXF9CF3M-k
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Leadbelly on May 31, 2018, 01:43:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IehtMYlOuIk

Ah, his voice is so soothing to listen to. It is like the voice of an angel. I could masturbate to that voice.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: agrajag on June 02, 2018, 11:24:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5tj2eWRuDw
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 05, 2018, 05:48:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKn9yiLVlMM
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Rufus on June 14, 2018, 10:15:32 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UpSoosy9ws
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Leadbelly on June 16, 2018, 03:13:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UpSoosy9ws

The way it is most contested currently is around gender and human nature more broadly.

In that respect he brings up Sally Haslanger and says she subscribes to critical realist viewpoint. Not everyone takes a critical realist viewpoint, but okay. He then goes on to dodge the subject entirely and talk about other areas.

Criticism of social constructionism in terms of human nature, for instance, is about the extent in which social constructionism is used to ignore biological influences on behaviour. This was what sparked Steven Pinker to write the Blank Slate. The full title of the book is 'The Blank Slate: The Modern Denial of Human Nature'. And it is not that Steven Pinker denies the role of nuture or social interaction in shaping reality to some degree, it is social constructionist thought has been used to undermine or ignore the role of biology in shaping behaviour and culture. In fact in fields like biology or neuroscience, etc, the whole nature/nurture debate is moot anyway because behaviour does not occur outside of the environment. All behaviour is a product of interaction with the environment. In other words, you cannot separate one from the other.

He also brings up the way it has been politicised. The way it is used for ideological reasons is certainly a problem.

Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Atramental on June 18, 2018, 03:33:51 PM
https://youtu.be/wkaFMqQzy9A
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Atramental on June 20, 2018, 08:26:38 AM
https://youtu.be/yTrNxi3Uclw
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Leadbelly on June 20, 2018, 10:18:41 AM
An interesting bit of news.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcRlRt6JaIg
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 20, 2018, 11:45:32 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZeOWYFlICc
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Leadbelly on June 22, 2018, 11:16:03 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ssf5XN5o9q4

I came across this channel after listening to a conversation between Michael Shermer and Derren Brown. Brown had a new book out at the time called Happy, and Shermer was talking to him about it. In the book Derren writes a lot about Stoic philosophy. This is something I thought was really interesting.

What I actually came across while looking for other Derren Brown interviews was the preview to these debates.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ope_z1ZsfRU

The original conversation with Michael Shermer and Derren Brown.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmaHLjXCPpk
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Nintex on June 22, 2018, 05:54:59 PM
After Jefferies took down Peterson and his theories within 5 minutes of an interview.
Which of these 'intellectual' snake oil salesmen should he sit down with next?
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Leadbelly on June 22, 2018, 08:15:21 PM
After Jefferies took down Peterson and his theories within 5 minutes of an interview.
Which of these 'intellectual' snake oil salesmen should he sit down with next?

What intellectual snake oil salesmen do you mean exactly?
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 22, 2018, 09:34:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLJxgZpmWKc
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 22, 2018, 09:51:18 PM
Because of the past thread - of which I watched like one video - now all my youtube recommendations are 'Watch Prof. Jordan Peterson take down trans-gender professor in five minutes'.  Thanks etoilet. 
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 22, 2018, 09:55:12 PM
Because of the past thread - of which I watched like one video - now all my youtube recommendations are 'Watch Prof. Jordan Peterson take down trans-gender professor in five minutes'.  Thanks etoilet.

That's part of the reason why I never engage on any of that stuff.

The other part being 99.9% of it being horse shit.

Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Mandark on June 22, 2018, 09:56:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vE8ExuuNZQ
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 22, 2018, 10:02:09 PM
All of his stories are wonderful. 
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Rufus on June 23, 2018, 07:06:15 AM
Because of the past thread - of which I watched like one video - now all my youtube recommendations are 'Watch Prof. Jordan Peterson take down trans-gender professor in five minutes'.  Thanks etoilet.
Delete it from your history. Should clear it up.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 23, 2018, 12:46:06 PM
https://youtu.be/GwVERl0OYjc
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 23, 2018, 01:23:24 PM
I actually have a soft spot for really clunky dead on the nose kind of allegory stuff but yeah, hearing or reading about David Cage and his wankery sucks the fun out of it for me.

Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: VomKriege on June 24, 2018, 06:37:16 AM
Of course there is a stupid conspiracy. David de Gruttola  ::)
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Atramental on June 25, 2018, 08:41:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkxGah4Kz1g
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: TVC15 on June 25, 2018, 08:57:57 PM
The only free man to ever live.

https://youtu.be/i_-88Gig1Kc
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: team filler on June 26, 2018, 01:50:16 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYCDuBuDlgI
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: team filler on June 26, 2018, 06:29:37 AM
pretty good debate here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghr-JMq1VT0


the result at the end, priceless
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 26, 2018, 10:32:40 AM
Nobody gives a shit fortunately.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 26, 2018, 10:36:59 AM
These aren't anything intellectual but I really like these videos and the fun/anguish of her trying to do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TudhYwBrgYg&list=PLKtIunYVkv_RezN3GB12YA8orYOScQUdA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nqJiBRNQuw&list=PLKtIunYVkv_RezN3GB12YA8orYOScQUdA&index=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEMxFSjmo5Q&list=PLKtIunYVkv_RezN3GB12YA8orYOScQUdA&index=4
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 29, 2018, 03:16:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjwLFZNCjDA
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: team filler on June 29, 2018, 10:02:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXMBwZo-rSQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NRLZR4fJwA
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: team filler on June 30, 2018, 02:12:58 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOCsIyIGNls
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 30, 2018, 12:48:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJhOpY7bh6s
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: toku on July 03, 2018, 11:57:56 PM
https://youtu.be/yUH3aAY8P-Q
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: TVC15 on July 04, 2018, 12:01:57 AM
https://youtu.be/LeB0TWC_D9s
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: toku on July 05, 2018, 12:12:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4txLUUgJ2PE
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: agrajag on July 08, 2018, 11:22:43 PM
https://youtu.be/rj9acDtMooA

this one geta extra points because it has the iconic grandma smiley

 :whatisthis
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: team filler on July 08, 2018, 11:51:15 PM
https://youtu.be/LeB0TWC_D9s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MowWQIgh5YE
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 09, 2018, 12:03:45 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fdQS-rjsnk&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpyYOXp1lk4
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Oblivion on July 09, 2018, 12:24:55 AM
pretty good debate here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghr-JMq1VT0


the result at the end, priceless

Wait...Majid was arguing on the PRO-Islam side? The video was from 2015, so I'm guessing this was before he became part of the Skeptic/Intellectual Dork Web crowd?
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Momo on July 19, 2018, 01:19:02 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdvMjGeqvSE
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: team filler on July 19, 2018, 09:33:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35eEljsSQfc
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Momo on July 21, 2018, 04:46:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oErYYBNCHh4
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 22, 2018, 11:49:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCzyQ2Rfj1c&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: agrajag on July 23, 2018, 01:55:29 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TROA_0RxZmM
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 26, 2018, 11:28:42 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxjKnMFv8dw
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: agrajag on July 27, 2018, 03:46:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnQamJtPNOQ
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: agrajag on July 27, 2018, 06:17:05 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhzjWfvsick
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Atramental on July 28, 2018, 03:10:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keelOjhE59A
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Atramental on July 29, 2018, 10:36:12 PM
https://youtu.be/BQV81ssuIiA
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: agrajag on July 30, 2018, 01:51:11 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2ac0FuJTqQ
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Atramental on August 01, 2018, 09:35:08 PM
https://youtu.be/xgDF77EBGnY
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Rufus on August 03, 2018, 09:48:44 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxalrwPNkNI
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: agrajag on August 03, 2018, 10:50:02 PM
https://youtu.be/fVCspMdX4os

A harrowing tale of lies, manipulation, e-fame and disgrace, and of hunting of exotic game, stalking, doxxing and harrassment, steroids and heavy iron.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 04, 2018, 12:10:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0jfn61FTGQ&app=desktop
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Atramental on August 05, 2018, 10:10:16 AM
https://youtu.be/oliq8m8Qph0
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Rufus on August 05, 2018, 12:33:16 PM
Is it like this?

(https://abload.de/img/1532017458687-0z0czj.jpeg)
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Assimilate on August 05, 2018, 12:58:14 PM
https://youtu.be/fVCspMdX4os

A harrowing tale of lies, manipulation, e-fame and disgrace, and of hunting of exotic game, stalking, doxxing and harrassment, steroids and heavy iron.

 :rejoice

the internet is amazing isn't it
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Atramental on August 12, 2018, 03:44:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avs0EgSxhQE
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 12, 2018, 07:08:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HLFX7BUZco&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: agrajag on August 12, 2018, 09:08:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HLFX7BUZco&feature=youtu.be

We don't give a platform to content like this. Thread locked.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Atramental on August 13, 2018, 08:05:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jqm4dB8kie0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I081OvfZZtc
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: agrajag on August 16, 2018, 01:14:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ydnwI5dzts
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: EVOL on August 16, 2018, 11:35:01 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLA-uFKjQ-g&t=0s&index=2&list=LL6Lub2aRQdjgI07s41S6Ktg

You need to skip a lot of filler to get through this one, but it's worth it.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 26, 2018, 11:40:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUm8yQT1QTQ
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: D3RANG3D on August 29, 2018, 02:43:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rpj8drpPZU
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: agrajag on August 30, 2018, 12:34:38 PM
https://youtu.be/WYR7iTBYSR0
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: agrajag on August 30, 2018, 02:14:17 PM
 :badass
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: D3RANG3D on September 01, 2018, 08:11:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Emfqtu7Ws
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 01, 2018, 08:31:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouvi-fwrfIY

I like ashens, and this video is entertaining and informative.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Rufus on September 02, 2018, 04:36:41 AM
Youtube keeps recommending it to me. It seems to have permanent residence in my sidebar.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: D3RANG3D on September 09, 2018, 03:26:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtXBG3Tfex0

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Dose comments :dead
[close]
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Rufus on September 12, 2018, 09:52:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHtvTGaPzF4
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: D3RANG3D on September 14, 2018, 02:30:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY92v1Gb5Mw
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Atramental on September 15, 2018, 03:32:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD2briZ6fB0
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Atramental on September 16, 2018, 02:00:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7ILY8V0z4g
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Atramental on September 20, 2018, 08:23:26 AM
https://youtu.be/hyaftqCORT4
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Atramental on September 24, 2018, 12:14:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s9ACDMcpjA
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: shosta on September 24, 2018, 07:10:12 PM
Short video (10min)
https://youtu.be/ovUnSjU108o
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Leadbelly on September 28, 2018, 02:42:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf9HELNwy8Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4bI_D_iPgQ
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Raist on September 28, 2018, 07:23:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf9HELNwy8Q



"I voted for Brexit because it was such a great opportunity to shake things up in Westminster"

LOL
O
L
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on September 28, 2018, 08:25:41 PM
https://youtu.be/RhKeVBmBDHM
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Leadbelly on September 29, 2018, 12:39:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf9HELNwy8Q



"I voted for Brexit because it was such a great opportunity to shake things up in Westminster"

LOL
O
L

She voted for Brexit because it was an undemocratic institution that had no regard for popular sovereignty. It was a principled stance. In other words you cannot be a true democrat and vote to remain in the EU.

They also talk about the cowardice of the Left on Brexit. There were many people on the Left, particularly the old school Left who were against the EU(Corbyn for example). Even the fucking guardian were against the EU at one point. It's funny, the guardian wrote an editorial outlining its case for 'remain' during the vote, but if you go back a few years they were saying the exact opposite. After the EU fucked over Greece the guardian wrote an editorial about it being time to leave the EU because of the undemocratic way it was behaving.

Personally, I can understand people's fears of the economic ramifications of Brexit, but at the same time, I can perfectly understand voting leave because of the fundamental principles of democracy and popular sovereignty.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Rufus on September 29, 2018, 02:10:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUFvG4RpwJI
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Raist on September 29, 2018, 05:25:33 PM
She voted for Brexit because it was an undemocratic institution that had no regard for popular sovereignty. It was a principled stance. In other words you cannot be a true democrat and vote to remain in the EU.

They also talk about the cowardice of the Left on Brexit. There were many people on the Left, particularly the old school Left who were against the EU(Corbyn for example). Even the fucking guardian were against the EU at one point. It's funny, the guardian wrote an editorial outlining its case for 'remain' during the vote, but if you go back a few years they were saying the exact opposite. After the EU fucked over Greece the guardian wrote an editorial about it being time to leave the EU because of the undemocratic way it was behaving.

Personally, I can understand people's fears of the economic ramifications of Brexit, but at the same time, I can perfectly understand voting leave because of the fundamental principles of democracy and popular sovereignty.

She cites multiple times a discontent with her country's government. How does this relate to the EU in any way?
But I guess she's happy to have a tory + DUP coalition now, she sure showed them :rofl


And give me a break about "voting leave because of the fundamental principles of democracy and popular sovereignty".

In a country with a head of state appointed by divine rule. A democratic system based on FPTP where no one actually even votes for the government leader directly, but for their local MP.
And the House of Lords sure is a model of democracy :lol

So how exactly does this follow the "fundamental principles of democracy and popular sovereignty", while an institution composed of (1) democratically elected MEP (2) democratically elected heads of state and (3) a council proposed by 2 and voted in by 1, is completely undemocratic?
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Leadbelly on September 29, 2018, 06:04:50 PM
She voted for Brexit because it was an undemocratic institution that had no regard for popular sovereignty. It was a principled stance. In other words you cannot be a true democrat and vote to remain in the EU.

They also talk about the cowardice of the Left on Brexit. There were many people on the Left, particularly the old school Left who were against the EU(Corbyn for example). Even the fucking guardian were against the EU at one point. It's funny, the guardian wrote an editorial outlining its case for 'remain' during the vote, but if you go back a few years they were saying the exact opposite. After the EU fucked over Greece the guardian wrote an editorial about it being time to leave the EU because of the undemocratic way it was behaving.

Personally, I can understand people's fears of the economic ramifications of Brexit, but at the same time, I can perfectly understand voting leave because of the fundamental principles of democracy and popular sovereignty.

She cites multiple times a discontent with her country's government. How does this relate to the EU in any way?
But I guess she's happy to have a tory + DUP coalition now, she sure showed them :rofl


And give me a break about "voting leave because of the fundamental principles of democracy and popular sovereignty".

In a country with a head of state appointed by divine rule. A democratic system based on FPTP where no one actually even votes for the government leader directly, but for their local MP.
And the House of Lords sure is a model of democracy :lol

So how exactly does this follow the "fundamental principles of democracy and popular sovereignty", while an institution composed of (1) democratically elected MEP (2) democratically elected heads of state and (3) a council proposed by 2 and voted in by 1, is completely undemocratic?

No, that is pretty much her stance on Brexit. She doesn't explicitly say that in this interview.

It doesn't mean that the UK system doesn't have flaws, what it does mean is you have MPs that are at least answerable to the people. And in terms of the House of Lords, they(spiked) don't like it either.

In terms of how the EU works:

-democratically elected MEPs: MEPs have no power to create or propose legislation, they have no power to change existing legislation, all they can do is react to current proposals and that basically means ask them to look at the proposals again (a bit like the house of lords, funnily enough). That means MEPs are unable really to fulfil their mandate. Presumably they have asked the electorate to vote for them for some reason, when in reality they can't actually do anything.

Well, 2 and 3 are kind of the same thing. The council is made up of heads of state. This is an argument some have made for why the EU is democratic. Each head of state is democratically voted in by the citizens of their country. This is misleading though. Each individual head of state is only answerable to the citizens of their own country. Obviously that means Angela Merkel is not answerable to the British people. This also means the council as a body is answerable to no one because there is no unified EU citizenry to be answerable to. The council operates intergovernmentally which really is the only way it can run.

Really though how the EU institutions operate is the least of the concerns, it is the actions and interference in the votes and elections of individual EU states that is of the most concern. So for example France and the Netherlands(I think) voted against the EU constitution. The EU establishment didn't then decide to scrap it, they subverted the will of the people by repackaging the EU constitution as the Lisbon Treaty. Ireland voted against the Lisbon Treaty. The EU basically bullied them into taking the vote again until the people gave them the answer they wanted. They then fucked over the Greek people who tried in every way to assert their own independance which the EU basically squashed.

To go back to something I also mentioned. That being how many on the Left done a U-turn when it came to the EU. Surprisingly, one of those people was Owen Jones, who wrote this about the EU:

The left must put Britain's EU withdrawal on the agenda
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/14/left-reject-eu-greece-eurosceptic

Of course when Brexit came around, his views suddenly changed. You might want to read what he wrote back then, he made some good points. lol

Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Raist on September 29, 2018, 06:33:40 PM
You're discussing the technicalities of who proposes laws and how votes them in. This is a far cry from a "this is democratic but this isn't" dichotomy.

As for who answers to whom, this is exactly the same with the HoC. Each individual MP is only answerable to the residents of their own constituency. You have zero power over the remaining 649.


As for the whole EU constitution thing, the Treaty of Lisbon was nothing like it (and mostly an updated rehash of Maastricht + Rome anyway), and it was actually ratified by Ireland after a second referendum that followed significant changes made to it (i.e concessions).
And the Greek folks only have themselves / their government to blame. They dun goofed long before the EU did anything.


Look, I'm not surprised a ton of people are flipflopping. That's the british way :lol
People who were praising May then are now accusing her of sabotaging Brexit. Cause of course, that's the only explanation as to why it's a complete shitshow. Not the fact that people voted with absolutely zero idea on what kind of consequences their vote would have, should it determine the UK's actual decision (which it never was meant to in the first place). There's a reason why the vast majority of referendums are purely consultative, or require 2/3rd majorities.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Leadbelly on September 29, 2018, 06:45:00 PM
You're discussing the technicalities of who proposes laws and how votes them in. This is a far cry from a "this is democratic but this isn't" dichotomy.

As for who answers to whom, this is exactly the same with the HoC. Each individual MP is only answerable to the residents of their own constituency. You have zero power over the remaining 649.


As for the whole EU constitution thing, the Treaty of Lisbon was nothing like it (and mostly an updated rehash of Maastricht + Rome anyway), and it was actually ratified by Ireland after a second referendum that followed significant changes made to it (i.e concessions).
And the Greek folks only have themselves / their government to blame. They dun goofed long before the EU did anything.

The Lisbon Treaty:

Quote
he EU's new treaty is the same as the rejected constitution - only the format has been changed to avoid referendums, says Valery Giscard d'Estaing, architect of the constitution.
https://euobserver.com/institutional/25052

In terms of Greece, yeah Greece fucked themselves up, that isn't entirely the issue, the issue is the way the EU interfered with the country. That was what so many people were outraged over.

The examples I gave are just a few though. The EU basically forced out Berlusconi is another thing I can point out.
https://euobserver.com/economic/114264

I forgot to mention. The UK government is answerable to the UK people in a way the EU is not. You can't compare the two.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: toku on September 29, 2018, 06:46:16 PM
https://youtu.be/np_ylvc8Zj8
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: D3RANG3D on September 30, 2018, 08:30:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbzUOajs2d8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2okzfx1k0I

 :nsfanyone
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Leadbelly on October 06, 2018, 12:17:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXx2dAd7EgE
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Rufus on October 06, 2018, 07:17:51 AM
I wasn't aware western civilization was dying.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Leadbelly on October 06, 2018, 02:43:13 PM
I wasn't aware western civilization was dying.

Well, is it dying, is it not? I think one thing you need to do before discussing this subject is define what Western civilisation is. Yaron Brook states it is not really to do with geography (Australia of course is described as a Western country) nor is it necessarily to do with a particular Ethnic group. Western civilisation, as Yaron Brook defines it, is simply a set of ideas. And so the discussion really is focused around whether a particular set of ideas are dying in the West.

Whether you agree on it or not, it's just a discussion amongst two interesting people, that's all.

Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Raist on October 06, 2018, 03:01:30 PM
I can't think of any "western idea" that is dying. But then again I can't be arsed to watch the video.

Anyway


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsMydMDi3rI
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Atramental on October 17, 2018, 02:33:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDVvVGWkQ4U
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: agrajag on October 17, 2018, 09:49:37 PM
https://youtu.be/ALbt17LLH54


eat shit Bowsette fans
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Raist on October 22, 2018, 04:25:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2pGoz4ZDgE
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Atramental on October 23, 2018, 12:01:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P-P3yMAQAM
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 24, 2018, 01:56:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBEQyxSrs8E

Well this hit home.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Atramental on October 28, 2018, 06:01:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hux3YZcL0WY
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: toku on October 29, 2018, 01:18:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ge0P8z_q1M
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Leadbelly on October 31, 2018, 12:04:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZZNvT1vaJg
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Rufus on November 02, 2018, 11:25:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69obN625Fjs
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Leadbelly on November 02, 2018, 03:21:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69obN625Fjs

Basically to sum up this video, he is dismissing the anti-SJW narrative as a kind of caricature that isn't true. Over exaggerated maybe. Nothing really substantive to video other than his opinion of the Anti-SJW crowd. The same thing is said from both sides. Maybe there is some truth to it maybe there isn't. Maybe they are mischaracterising what people on other side are saying, maybe they aren't. Fine.

One thing I object to though -- me personally, maybe others see the dangers in it -- is the problematising of certain viewpoints, particular ones that steer from the current orthodoxy. So I have heard said for instance that the more 'so-called' moderate anti-SJW types are a kind of gateway drug to more extreme viewpoints. He states that the Youtube study does not claim the anti-SJW crowd are directly linked to the far-right, fine, but at the same time the study is in someway linking their viewpoints as potentially the beginning to the radicalisation process that may ultimately desensitise people to more extreme ideas. There may be some truth to it. Some people may have started with the more moderate version of certain views that progressed into believing more extreme views.

Absolutely everyone can play that game though. Black lives Matter rhetoric resulted in someone getting a gun and killing 5 police officers. Kill all white men, again maybe we should call for censoring that kind of rhetoric just in case someone takes it seriously and starts killing white men. Equating words with violence might mean someone responds to words with violence.

Ultimately the end result would be controversial opinions simply aren't aired because potentially someone somewhere may come to extreme conclusions about whatever subject is aired. The things is, there might be some truth to what is being said, and it might be important to say it. At some point you have to just say you are not responsible for other people's actions. The responsiblity rests on them. The alternative is nothing gets said.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Rufus on November 02, 2018, 03:38:05 PM
This video is adressing people who may fall down these holes, not advocating to erase all outlying opinions. I thought that was pretty clear.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Leadbelly on November 02, 2018, 03:49:32 PM
This video is adressing people who may fall down these holes, not advocating to erase all outlying opinions. I thought that was pretty clear.

The Youtube study was brought up. That is what I was commenting on. He starts by saying they didn't read the full study and that it wasn't claiming they were far-right. He then say he doesn't entirely agree with the conclusions, but then to some degree he does agree with them.

Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Rufus on November 02, 2018, 04:00:43 PM
And I was adressing your slippery slope argument. :idont
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Leadbelly on November 02, 2018, 04:19:47 PM
And I was adressing your slippery slope argument. :idont

You know, some people use 'slippery slope' almost in a derogatory sense. It can be a fallacy. However, there is a potential for some things to become a slippery slope and it isn't irrational to point that out.

That said, I wasn't even making a slippery slope argument. I was objecting to the problematising of certain viewpoints, in this case associating moderate views with more extreme ones. As if one can potentially lead to the other. And it is not so much whether that can occur, it probably can and has occured, it is simply that there is either some truth in an opinion or there isn't. And someone airing such opinions should not be held responsible for someone making extreme conclusions out of it. That said, sure, airing extreme opinions and someone making extreme conclusions is somewhat different.

The question is how do you deal with that? Do you call for people to tone down their rhetoric? Do you call for companies like Youtube to censor certain opinions?

I am simply stating that I think that would be the wrong decision to make.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Rufus on November 02, 2018, 04:38:58 PM
Your concerns are noted and forwarded to the relevant authorities.

Don't leave the country.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 03, 2018, 09:22:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bbINLWtMKI
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: EightBitNate on November 03, 2018, 10:04:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bbINLWtMKI

I actually wanted to make a thread about ContraPoints because I’m really started to like her videos.

I agree with 99.9% of her argument, but I dislike how “non-binary” people are lumped together with trans people. Seems the entire basis of her argument is that if you saw a trans woman in a restaurant, and you believe she’s a woman, than you would call her “she”. I agree with this argument and I feel like Ben Shapiro and his fans gloss over this point a lot. We don’t use pronouns based on biology, but based on their societal functions. However, how do otherkin and the like fit into this equation? We don’t have a societal norm for what genderqueer is, or what both genders at once are. It pretty much contradicts everything she said about recognizing trans people being recognized for how most people perceive. She’s failed to make an argument for why there are more than 2 genders.

(Didn’t watch like the last 5 mins of the video so Idk if she explains it later on but still)
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 03, 2018, 10:22:09 PM
Nonbinary people fall under the 'Don't be an ass gibbon' for me and I think her.  I don't care if there are more than 2 genders.  If someone wants me to call them something thats fine.  I'm also not going out of my way to ask people their preferred pronouns.  However, if that was the social norm, I'd be fine with it.  In general, whatever makes people feel more comfortable in their own skin is a good thing, and it doesn't really need to be based on any kind of agreement to how many genders there are. 
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: EightBitNate on November 03, 2018, 10:26:54 PM
Yeah I’m all for making people as comfortable as possible. I have absolutely no qualms with regular trans people. I’m not even trying to deny non-binary people their right to a pronoun. It’s purely argumentative for me when I question what it means to be non-binary. I just can’t wrap my head around it and I’ve yet to meet someone who can adequately explain what it means to not be simply man or woman.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 03, 2018, 10:44:35 PM
Right totally get that.  I can't really wrap my head around it too in terms of what my expectations are for such a person or their expectations on me.  So I think you're looking for an argument to explain those expectations and that's not there.  My point is such an explanation might never be there but it doesn't really matter in terms of how you treat people.  Like I don't need some gender ontology to not be an ass gibbon.  Which is the same for you given your comment, so maybe another way of saying what I'm trying to say is that her logic doesn't need to cover the case on nonbinary because I don't think you need a logic to begin with.

This also brings up one of the issues I have is that she says that Ben isn't really arguing about biology but linguistics, and I would say even that's wrong.  He's arguing from his discomfort with trans people and using whatever thing sounds reasonable - he's not arguing about linguistics, he's arguing from bigotry so even if there is a linguistic argument, it doesn't matter.     
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: EightBitNate on November 03, 2018, 10:57:05 PM
I don’t really want to watch the video, but in his debate with Blair White, did he ever refer to her using female pronouns? Because he seems like too much of a coward to stand by his backwards ass standards when it’s someone on his team he has to use them on.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 03, 2018, 11:00:54 PM
Don't know.  I don't want to watch it either lol
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: curly on November 04, 2018, 05:04:04 PM
Yeah I’m all for making people as comfortable as possible. I have absolutely no qualms with regular trans people. I’m not even trying to deny non-binary people their right to a pronoun. It’s purely argumentative for me when I question what it means to be non-binary. I just can’t wrap my head around it and I’ve yet to meet someone who can adequately explain what it means to not be simply man or woman.

Speaking as somebody with no special knowledge on the subject I understand nonbinary as an outgrowth of the view of gender as a social construct that is at least to some degree imposed upon us from outside. If gender categories are arbitrary then it makes sense to choose to abstain from these categories. Gender dysphoria on the other hand has an essentialist element; you have within you a natural gender that isn't the one you were assigned at birth, and the dysphoria you experience is a result of the repression of your true gender. As a postmodern neomarxist nonbinary actually makes more sense to me but a nonbinary person might say I'm totally off base in my description of it.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Raist on November 04, 2018, 05:07:52 PM
I don’t really want to watch the video, but in his debate with Blair White, did he ever refer to her using female pronouns? Because he seems like too much of a coward to stand by his backwards ass standards when it’s someone on his team he has to use them on.

I think his issue was mostly with having laws telling him to do so.

edit: nevermind, you were talking about Shapiro.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Atramental on November 07, 2018, 10:24:18 PM
https://youtu.be/gZj176ZoM4Y

https://youtu.be/23ePqRkOKtg
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Raist on November 09, 2018, 04:56:29 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tixOyiR8B-8
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Leadbelly on November 10, 2018, 02:57:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_tpWrv76Q8
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on November 17, 2018, 03:59:31 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAh9oLs67Cw
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Leadbelly on November 27, 2018, 08:05:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gto_lv8BglQ
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: toku on November 27, 2018, 09:17:54 PM
https://youtu.be/Sa52TWoUFCk
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: EightBitNate on November 28, 2018, 05:25:07 PM
Just gonna recommend Reddit.com/r/mealtimevideos to everyone. Awesome if you’re like me and like to watch YouTube videos as you fall asleep.
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: D3RANG3D on December 02, 2018, 10:23:59 PM
https://youtu.be/hV5tM1B8TW8

 :heh
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Rufus on December 06, 2018, 02:49:15 PM
In the spirit of not pretending you actually watch these videos, rather than listen to them as you do something else, here's a podcast:

https://soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-58-the-neoliberal-optimism-industry
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: D3RANG3D on December 23, 2018, 07:31:38 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_GbNPxyMFc
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 23, 2018, 09:04:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCgoxQCf5Jg

(https://i.imgur.com/PAqZO8g.gif)
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: agrajag on January 11, 2019, 08:50:02 PM
https://youtu.be/VsDV9Xu6yuc
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Leadbelly on January 17, 2019, 11:20:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MNv4_rTkfU
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Momo on January 18, 2019, 06:06:52 AM
Tyson <3
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: D3RANG3D on January 20, 2019, 02:44:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciyWZCied7g
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Rufus on January 20, 2019, 02:58:38 PM
Cities: Skylines | Power, Politics, & Planning: Episode 1: Parking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lvUByM-fZk

Playlist (5 videos so far)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lvUByM-fZk&list=PLwkSQD3vqK1S1NiHIxxF2g_Uy-LbbcR84 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lvUByM-fZk&list=PLwkSQD3vqK1S1NiHIxxF2g_Uy-LbbcR84)
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Leadbelly on January 28, 2019, 07:36:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wieRZoJSVtw
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Rufus on March 12, 2019, 05:39:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKx1wnXClcI

Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Rufus on April 05, 2019, 06:16:24 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEUO6pjwFOo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5pUA3LsEaw
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Leadbelly on April 07, 2019, 02:50:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW_KhFq4LQo
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: D3RANG3D on April 07, 2019, 04:13:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThkwqH1f4Cs
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: toku on April 24, 2019, 08:19:31 PM
https://youtu.be/cgpgwBXKYHI
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: shosta on April 27, 2019, 10:48:08 PM
https://youtu.be/MtdupS0gRt0
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Raist on April 29, 2019, 05:01:25 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Eyitz6bctc
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: D3RANG3D on May 09, 2019, 03:04:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svOs3yARSq0
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: D3RANG3D on May 27, 2019, 11:32:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUP3zJcRwG0

Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: D3RANG3D on June 12, 2019, 03:00:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckf9y0lJ4Y4

 :whew
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 14, 2019, 04:17:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4ynPp10jMc&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 16, 2019, 09:28:18 PM
I've been binge watching geology lectures

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMCXHewLIWc&list=PLwNJg2mCrcQRYmYJzHUv7YxO40JlNbAWe&index=1

This guy is amazing
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: agrajag on June 20, 2019, 05:24:03 PM
https://youtu.be/sy9ztJuZu2c
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Leadbelly on June 21, 2019, 08:37:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiOFmHOjXH0
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 22, 2019, 12:37:12 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En26p6GvtHw&list=PLbnrZHfNEDZyGeNsqVL3jmXMpJbNcPXsC&index=30
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: agrajag on July 05, 2019, 03:34:05 PM
https://youtu.be/cUdtMm3Y9G4

dude's really pissed off about birds
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 06, 2019, 03:39:34 AM
I like Ashen's annual talks at the Norwich Gaming Festival. His knowledge of trashy old 8-bit British PC games is a treasure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFF9O73iwko
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 06, 2019, 02:39:58 PM
Blame Society channel is movie reviews and board games but the movie reviews are generally really fun. The premise is they review movies one of them has never seen. A wide range of movies from a wide ranges of history.

They've been doing it for many years. Playlist of all their reviews.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUldLshUcdRRMAEH4NoPISKgnTsqtDh7u (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUldLshUcdRRMAEH4NoPISKgnTsqtDh7u)

Example of their review style.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sBh83OnIcA&
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: agrajag on July 28, 2019, 05:03:27 PM
Metal is for everyone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBzIp4Tv1YQ
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 04, 2019, 08:26:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M64HUIJFTZM
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: D3RANG3D on August 05, 2019, 05:09:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_QxAZCyAoQ
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Leadbelly on August 05, 2019, 06:47:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzK3jS209G
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Momo on August 07, 2019, 01:35:32 AM
https://youtu.be/VsDV9Xu6yuc
(https://i.imgur.com/xobfRmh.jpg)
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: agrajag on August 22, 2019, 05:16:28 PM
https://youtu.be/c7ZXO3sUkgk

it was Dime's birthday on the 20th RIP
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: EchoRin on August 23, 2019, 02:28:15 PM
https://youtu.be/1pnSrAqmmCo
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: D3RANG3D on September 07, 2019, 04:35:32 PM
https://www.bitchute.com/video/6V6fH0LamnDX/
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: D3RANG3D on September 15, 2019, 02:52:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kaXypwdcfY

Duwanday  :trigger
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Rufus on September 28, 2019, 10:14:28 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQWJbLTyDlc
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Leadbelly on September 28, 2019, 08:03:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTviaHRguVU
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Rufus on October 02, 2019, 10:27:09 AM
From iron and steel, to steel rail cars to the protectionist US government bidding process on rail car manufacture (no domestic companies exist, so it's extra weird):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEjozE--YrY
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 02, 2019, 01:58:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCXMw7xyKao

Their other lectures are pretty good.  The museum itself is pretty cool if you are ever in the badlands. 

I saw Zuul, which was discovered around the same time when it was at the ROM and it was super super cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=30&v=wadNi6mpeKc


Also if you want more on paleontology I discovered the Common Descent podcast which is informative and not really dumbed down like most popular science.  The show does a half-hour of paleo/evolution news where they discuss articles from the last two weeks then an hour segment on some topic.  Except for a few of the early episodes the sound quality is perfect. 
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 06, 2019, 03:49:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EypET2ulQNA&t=1743s

new episode is great
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Rufus on October 19, 2019, 07:50:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIxY_Y9TGWI
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: Rufus on October 29, 2019, 12:45:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhRBsJYWR8Q
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: D3RANG3D on October 30, 2019, 01:21:25 AM
https://youtu.be/-FUShxZ1C6Y
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: D3RANG3D on November 05, 2019, 04:17:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDaUf2in8ew
 :nsfw :nsfanyone
Title: Re: Long video discussion thread that isn't shit
Post by: EchoRin on December 08, 2019, 12:45:53 AM
Bored on the weekend? Watch the master at his craft. River muthafuckin Phoenix. RIP my man. This is a contextualization of My Own Private River done by James Franco who has a massive hard on for River like me. Takes away all the Shakespearean bits from the original My Own Private Idaho. Adds in other bits that weren't included in that final cut. Watching River is just incredible and I'm glad this upload exists as I don't believe there is any physical release of this.

https://youtu.be/LvA5HN6cboY