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Title: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: aiii on April 19, 2018, 08:46:14 PM
How you rank your Bonds and movies says a lot about you as a person.


Bonds:

1. Daniel Craig
2. Roger Moore
3. Sean Connery
4. Timothy Dalton
5. Pierce Brosnan
6. George Lazybee
7. Everyone in Casino Royale 1967


Movies:

1. Casino Royale 2005
2. You Only Live Twice
3. Moonraker
4. From Russia With Love
5. Goldfinger
6. Skyfall
7. The Spy Who Loved Me
8. Diamonds Are Forever
9. License to Kill
10. A View To A Kill
11. For Your Eyes Only
12. Spectre
13. The Man With The Golden Gun
14. Live And Let Die
15. Dr. No
16. Tomorrow Never Dies
17. Octopussy
18. The Living Daylights
19. Goldeneye
20. Quantum Of Solace
21. Thunderball
22. Never Say Never Again
23. Die Another Day
24. The World Is Not Enough
25. OHMSS
26. Casino Royale 1967

These have changed order many times for me, the only true steadfast is Casino Royale as 1. Very much depends on my mood, what kind of state of mind I'm in, and so on. And where they're ranked doesn't necessarily indicate their quality level to me, but how much I enjoyed them, and I very, very much enjoy Roger Moore smirking. 2-10 could really be in just about any order on any given day for me.


Songs:

1. Skyfall https://youtu.be/DeumyOzKqgI
2. Nobody Does It Better https://youtu.be/SaV-6qerkqI
3. Live And Let Die https://youtu.be/e7aGAIWe3uE
4. A View To A Kill https://youtu.be/hJzotJUlQws
5. You Only Live Twice https://youtu.be/XgFtQPgHyek
6. From Russia With Love https://youtu.be/Aq8CeRO3VEU
7. Thunderball (particularly the slowed down, jazzy instrumental version) https://youtu.be/s0YmcqcviEw
8. Diamonds Are Forever https://youtu.be/QFSAWiTJsjc
9. Goldfinger https://youtu.be/6D1nK7q2i8I
10. You Know My Name https://youtu.be/tUXjWeWuVSk
Dead last of any professional song ever made. Die Another Die https://youtu.be/QNYlNmWfnxo



Books:


1. Casino Royale
The rest are all trash

This will be updated with gifs at a later point as I have to make them again since I didn't save the ones from my site. I will be making a supercut of Roger Moore faces at some point as well.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 19, 2018, 08:57:26 PM
Goldeneye was p good
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: nudemacusers on April 19, 2018, 09:16:42 PM
James Bond still sucks dicks in gay hell but this is a much better thread so I support u op :clap
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: toku on April 19, 2018, 09:55:37 PM
I like Dalton bond. He's a little frayed at the edges, raw, hurt and a little mean, something I don't think we saw again until Daniel Craig.

Pierce Brosnan kinda sucks but I don't blame it on him, they pretty much only gave him 1 good bond film and then a goofy but serviceable one. The rest suck.

Not a fan of Roger Moore's bond. At all. I've probably seen his the most growing up though so that's probably why.

Don't really hate any of the Craig bonds, at worst they're forgettable or half baked. We'll always have Casino Royale though.

Don't gotta say shit about Connery bond.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: benjipwns on April 21, 2018, 03:27:10 AM
alright, you get points for the accurate Craig Casino Royale ranking

but the other Casino Royale ranking is a hate crime

also, using the title song WITHOUT the credit sequence shows a serious lack of information gain/processing ability, as the epic credits improve Cornell's song a thousand times
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: benjipwns on April 21, 2018, 03:42:32 AM
like Tina Turner's song is totally irrelevant without the Goldeneye intro, which imo is the only one that competes with Casino Royale's and arguably cannot ever be replicated:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WWsRJ2M67Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1AMUmkj-ck

there's also something about the imagery of both these intros and their respective "new era of Bond" representations, Goldeneye's status as the first Bond that has to deal with the end of the Cold War (which the franchise never really figured out with Brosnan, arguably EA figured it out with him better than EON did), and Casino Royale as formally rebooting the series (especially post 9/11) and deliberately eliminating the once constant of sexy women from the intros in favor of a bunch of relentless violence (though the franchise since has brought these back and shifted to absurd nonsensical allegorical "art film" intros that Spectre officially made impossible to parody)

also, i'm assuming you left off the true #1 james bond song from "quantum of solace" because of the corporate media's lies that it wasn't official
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6CoNUE5Zho
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: chronovore on April 21, 2018, 04:27:03 AM
Bonds
Films
I'm not a fan of either QoS or SPECTRE, but QoS at least was more tolerable on 2nd viewing. SPECTRE is straight fan-trolling.

I tried watching Moonraker and A View to a Kill the other day, and had to stop midway. There's cheese, and then there's VELVEETA.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: Coax on April 21, 2018, 07:52:12 AM
I can barely remember the Bond plots despite probably having seen a few of them twice at one time or another.

Best Bond might be Craig though I've only seen two of his. Though Dalton is my fav.

Themes:

1. License To Kill
2. Diamonds Are Forever
3. You Only Live Twice
4. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
5. Snake Eater :teehee

Skyfall's theme is strong in the intro and completely falls apart for the chorus which is weak af, imho. Had Skyfall had a better chorus it could have been up there.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: jorma on April 21, 2018, 09:14:14 AM
Bonds:
1: Sean Connery
2: Irrelevant

Films:
I accidentally fell asleep trying to rank the movies.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on April 21, 2018, 09:43:13 AM
Dalton is probably the most underrated Bond and I think his Bond had a lot of potential that they sadly never utilized.  I also think Brosnan had a lot of potential but the movies outside of Goldeneye were too shitty.  When I heard Madonna with her faux Bri'ish accent make a jab about cockfighting (get it?  get it?), I assumed Bond was dead at that point.  Craig revived it but honestly I don't think any of his movies were all that great.  I was a huge Bond homo back in the day but I could barely be assed to watch Spectre.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: Raist on April 21, 2018, 04:37:59 PM
Sean Connery. There is no other Bond.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: VomKriege on April 22, 2018, 04:18:10 AM
I mean really the best films are those directed by Terence Young (the first two and Thunderball) and I'll maybe add You Only Live Twice because of how bonkers and defining it is (crazy space science and hidden giant base full of goons). Goldfinger for instance is dragged down quite a bit by its pace and direction and despite every else being great it is a bit of a bore. I'm not an expert but a lot is owed to the craftsmanship of the steady and talented team that made the original run, notably production designer Ken Adam. And of course John Barry soundtracks.

Have a lot of affection for Roger Moore but while he was always great the only real highlights are The Spy Who Loved Me (where Moore's Bond is suitably brutal in the first half) and Moonraker (it's super goofy, corny and a bit desperate in aping the successes of its time but the production design and SFX are awesome and the villain memorable) and really it is just retreads of the Only Live Twice formula. The Man with the Golden Gun deserves a watch for how cringily mysoginistic it gets and the bottom of the barrel comedy and writing. Also C.Lee and the midget from Fantastic Island. But the Moore films were very much played on his comedic performances and should be appreciated for that even if they also got cornier with age. I guess the ski  scenes are a good shortcut to define them : impressive in their own right for the stunt work but too samey and formulaic.

On Her Majesty... doesn't hold up well but it's crazy and different enough to hold its own. Great tune and Diana Rigg is awesome.

Not a big fan of Dalton films but I like the bits where it goes slightly absurd with an Avengers (The British TV show) bent. There's a part where someone is infiltrating a poshy house and cooks and butlers are all secret agents proficient at close combat (a bit Bourne-ish too).

Brosnan was really just a C grade knock off of a Connery and Moore amalgamation. I think Goldeneye is hokey, by the numbers and has terrible music (save for Turner song) and mostly overestimated for reviving the franchise (I suspect it's a bit of a marketing talking point that has been massaged by the producers, we get some canned discussion like that at every actor change). Tomorrow... is decent, Die Another Day is a mediocre greatest hits compilation and The World... is really really bad.

Casino Royale is OK, I guess. I'm not big into it and I don't buy the whole rejuvenation argument. QoS has issues (directing and editing) but the backlash was a bit much. Skyfall would be pretty good if not for the last act which is by far the most horrendous thing they could do with the character (grafting the same boring shit of daddy and mommy issues every other generic character have these days) and getting all weepy over Judi Dench (Bernard Lee is the iconic M, fuck you Eon).

And the original Casino Royale is boring as fuck, but this type of sixties comedy never did anything for me. Watch it for some of the clever parody/meta ideas and the cast, I guess.
Never Say Never Again is sort of decently mediocre but really why bother when you can watch Thunderball ?
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on April 22, 2018, 08:48:23 AM
In my opinion, Thunderball is the best Bond movie.  It came fresh off of the upswing of popularity from Goldfinger so it had a lot of swagger but also with the realization that it had to be better than Goldfinger too, which I agree with VomKriege was kind of boring.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: VomKriege on April 22, 2018, 10:11:26 AM
Thunderball is great but yeah there's one underwater scene too much in this movie, the underwater battle is great though, fantastic editing. Guess that was the Avatar effect of its time of binging on new technology.

Goldfinger is a bit flat and not just in pace. Pity because everything else is up there with the best ones.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on April 23, 2018, 11:20:56 AM
Casino Royale really is that great
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: hampster on April 23, 2018, 05:57:25 PM
The best Bond is the basic cable marathon Bond :heart
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: chronovore on April 23, 2018, 06:45:11 PM
The best Bond is the basic cable marathon Bond :heart

You are not wrong.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: Nintex on June 02, 2018, 12:47:43 PM
[snip]

If only it had been fashionable for women to do squats in 1962. Ursula Andress :noah The car and lair explosions in this are ABSURD :lol :lol :lol
It all looks so classy and stylish  :lawd

(https://i.imgur.com/ABVSWRj.gif)
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: zomgee on June 03, 2018, 08:46:06 AM
Let us not forget the superior Goldeneye intro:

https://youtu.be/j-IwjRXp6N0

Ok, not really but it's a good effort. If they hadn't concentrated so much on LOOK ITS DANIEL CRAIG it could have been better.


Also I'm a huge huge fan of the theme to Tomorrow Never Dies. I know the movie is garbo and this is such a cool shuffle with great instrumentation, a real back to basics wailer.

https://youtu.be/SDe1xi4tGUA

https://youtu.be/SqHg_HSwgIA
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 03, 2018, 09:00:26 AM
I like the one with James Bond.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: VomKriege on June 03, 2018, 07:07:06 PM
Man, those first 3-4 movies are so vibrant and clear. One of my only complaints about the Moore era is they changed to a different, cheaper looking film stock than they used in the first few movies. Sean is so immensely charming in his first few minutes on screen.  :whew

(https://imgur.com/g6v0gUv.gif)

(https://imgur.com/BvAcpxw.gif)

(https://imgur.com/IKRVm0C.gif)

(https://imgur.com/zFLfJAx.gif)

(https://imgur.com/0Dxlncp.gif)

I don't think the film stock was thought as cheaper-looking back then, it was probably better in a technical sense and I suppose people liked that it was more natural and high fidelity (and I would suppose allow for less use of artificial lighting) after decades of arguably crude color processes.

Not that I disagree with you, a lot of films from the seventies (sometimes early eighties) do suffer a lot for it now to many, including me, often made worse by the trend of having grey / brown palettes.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: Flannel Boy on July 05, 2018, 04:23:54 PM
Roger Moore second? He already looked too-old for the part in Live and Let Die. I'd put George "I Look Like Clive Owen's Father" Lazenby ahead of him.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: Flannel Boy on July 05, 2018, 04:24:25 PM
"Gold. . . FINGAH!"
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: Flannel Boy on July 05, 2018, 05:13:33 PM
Do I want my Bond to be "delightful"?
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on July 05, 2018, 06:03:02 PM
stro, do you listen to James Bonding at all?
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 05, 2018, 09:44:33 PM
tbh, I probably like the Roger Moore Bonds the most. Live and Let Die and Man With the Golden Gun are just fun to watch. I don't care if he's old. Just look at this epic #dadbod.

(https://i.imgur.com/W3gDFEj.jpg)


Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: Big Hoops on July 06, 2018, 12:03:46 AM
Okay, perhaps an unpopular opinion but I LOVED the Agent Under Fire and Nightfire games for GameCube  :hmph
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: Flannel Boy on July 06, 2018, 05:20:45 AM
tbh, I probably like the Roger Moore Bonds the most. Live and Let Die and Man With the Golden Gun are just fun to watch. I don't care if he's old. Just look at this epic #dadbod.

(https://i.imgur.com/W3gDFEj.jpg)


I don't know what that is, but that's not a Dadbod. This is a dadbod.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/62/10/81/62108195e50a21ef44d026fb0e8f21bb.jpg)
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KU4LO_W0Aag/maxresdefault.jpg)
I believe this is Thunderball Bond. I will be older Thunderball Connery in a month.  :fbm
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 06, 2018, 06:35:39 AM
Its not really fair to rank them because they are all a product of their time.

That said Skyfall is peak Bond.

Best song, most feels.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: Momo on July 06, 2018, 06:59:44 AM
A dadbod in mma (right)
(https://i.imgur.com/iepV7rT.jpg)
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: VomKriege on August 21, 2018, 02:44:40 PM
Boyle out of the director's chair for the next Bond which is the most mild shock thing ever. I'm still surprised Sam Mendes did 2 films but I suspect he's much more amenable to conformism (and by big budget / prestige standard he was a bit washed out, maybe ?). Unless the franchise is bankrupt they'll never ever manage to accommodate an "auteur" with a strong distinctive style.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on August 21, 2018, 02:54:31 PM
goddamit
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: naff on August 21, 2018, 03:36:55 PM
Bonds:

1. Cary Grant

Movies:

1. North by Northwest

Idk, I've never really been into actual Bond. I've watched a bunch, I quite like moonraker, goldfinger and casino royale 2005. I appreciate this thread tho and will watch some more based on your rankings.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: TVC15 on August 21, 2018, 06:55:55 PM
Have I been in here to say none of these have ever been close to good? Because it’s the truth. The original Casino Royale is amusing in an “of its era” kind of way.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 21, 2018, 07:05:26 PM
TVC 15 likes shit like Bauhaus.  He has never had good taste as far as I know.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: TVC15 on August 21, 2018, 07:05:46 PM
I don't come to the bad vibes thread and troll you bro :rage

And I didn’t go into whatever movie thread I went into to see someone shitting on Barry Lyndon. I was sad. I let you have Mortal Kombat without denigrating it.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: TVC15 on August 21, 2018, 07:07:10 PM
I not only love Bauhaus, but I like a lot of Peter Murphy’s solo stuff. And Love and Rockets, but everyone loves them and Tones on Tail.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: TVC15 on August 21, 2018, 07:10:14 PM
I didn't shit on it's quality nor anyone who liked it. It wasn't for me because the setting is an immense turn off that I don't care about the quality of the rest of the movie.

"let me" have Mortal Kombat like it isn't one of the best films of the 90s :beli

Alright, I’ll buy that. Sorry for sassing you.

I still think James Bond is pretty bad. But this is to the person that isn’t stro here:

But Bauhaus? How can you not fucking like Bauhaus? They’re superb. Unimpeachable.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 25, 2018, 06:09:02 PM
I've re-watched a few Bonds movie recently and I have some quick opinions.

Casino Royale-It's ok, too long. The romance aspect kind of bores me.

QoS-I think it's pretty underrated. The action is actually really good, though edited kind of poorly. There are some fantastic scenes though and it's actually a very good looking movie. I feel it's better paced then CR which is a huge improvement. Honestly, I think this is one of the best Bonds.

Skyfall-Really enjoyable movie and a nice return to the typical Bond format, but made a bit more unique thanks to Craig Bond. The story has more stakes and relevancy then normal Bonds because of that. Amazing opening song and acting.

Spectre-It's ok, I think it gets a little long winded the more it goes on. The plot feels kind of too obvious and then when the reveal comes it's like whatever. The last act sucks.

Living Daylights-Honestly this may have rocketed up as one of my favorites. Dalton plays a really good Bond that feels a bit more grounded. It's more traditional then the one that follows it and thats why I think I like it. There's lots of good action here with a solid plot and a good Bond.

License to Kill-While this has a more interesting premise then Daylights and is darker, I liked Daylights more. Still good for those reasons though.

Goldeneye-I'm from the 90s so a classic.

World is Not Enough-Another that I feel is underrated. I like the story here more then most Bond movies as the situation Bond is involved in feels like it has a lot going on. I wish the good Bond Girl wasn't in here as Denise Richards sucks and feels tacked on. But the Bad Bond girl is great.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: porkbun on September 26, 2018, 12:42:51 PM
All I know is it is so dark inside my head that I need to watch a Roger Moore movie. Hard to pick between Live and Let Die and The Man With The Golden Gun. I want to make a super cut of Moore smirks.

Kind of a toss up for me, as I like both movies a lot and just watched them both recently via a Roger Moore 007 Collection I got on sale on Vudu.  I would probably give the edge to LALD for the hotness of Solitaire versus Goodnight acting like a dimwit, and the end Bond/villain confrontation is much better IMO with the exploding Kanaga vs. Scaramonga just randomly getting shot because he couldn't tell the real Bond versus a mannequin.  Also like you said, the soundtrack is great, with one of the best Bond themes ever.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: Nintex on December 16, 2018, 02:31:33 PM
How do these older Bond movies hold up in general?

I feel that some movies like Network and Lawrence of Arabia are timeless while others clearly show their age.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: Nintex on December 16, 2018, 03:06:09 PM
Would you imagine James Bond movies to be Network/Lawrence of Arabia tier films?
I have no clue. I catched glimpses of the classic bond movies on TV when I was a kid but I never really watched it until Goldeneye, Die Another Day and the likes.
However, I do know that I don't mind watching old movies and looking past crappy special effects. I also greatly enjoy the classic Indiana Jones movies.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: chronovore on January 09, 2019, 05:28:03 PM
Octopussy movie is also the most recent incident of a woman named Maud being sexy.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: VomKriege on May 30, 2019, 01:43:29 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but on my last rewatch of Dr.No I had the memory that the musical leitmotif was used to introduce Bond and it felt to me as the film was somehow playing those sequences as in a sequel when the protagonist you already know is reintroduced. Which could make sense for a character that was somewhat popular in its own right. Maybe some speculation from my ass but it's obvious they started this as a series (hopefully, maybe) and the franchise long made of point of announcing the sequels right at the credits (Bond will be back in...), maybe something they lift from popular books.

Dr.No has a great intro and a good first half (there's a brutal scene where Bond kills a man he ambushed and is flat on the ground with his nose in the carpet, the perfect summation of the "licence to kill" and Bond being a goon at the end of the day) but it gets fairly subdued once Bond is on the No island, it's a little more First Blood than crazy antics. Even Dr.No schemes and his lair (despite the mecha suits and antiradiation suits) feels slightly more grounded than the extravagant lairs and megalomaniac plots that became the trademark of the series (maybe just a budget issue though, those famous Ken Adam sets weren't cheap).

Diamonds... is a clusterfuck. Charles Gray makes for a great Blofeld tho and there's some funny scenes in that (I think the whole stretch in the space / company HQ in Vegas, IIRC, including that scene with the Blofeld lookalike) but the whole closing action scene is really poor (those fucking helicopter shots getting reused).

Since we mention the shameful demise of the "character formerly known as Blofeld because fuck we somehow lost the rights to that particular bit" in For Your Eyes Only, the film opens with Moore Bond on the grave of his wife right before taking revenge on Blofeld. Seems pretty clear it's a bit of a message that Diamonds is to be forgotten. Make sense because that film also tried to go for a more "grimmy" story.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: Transhuman on June 07, 2019, 11:02:12 AM
Plus it had the only "Bond girl" who was also a 3-dimensional character
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: chronovore on June 11, 2019, 09:43:45 AM
I also liked it better on later viewings. After Nestlé started churning out drinking water from California while that state was in a drought, AND the CEO has gone on record saying people don't have a right to drinkable water, the whole plot of QoS seemed more prescient.

It's a big jump down from Eva Green to Olga Kurylenko, though. She's dumb and angry throughout the film, a bad combination for the character.

The follow-up with Giancarlo Giannini's character was great though, and appropriately brutal and cold.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: VomKriege on July 13, 2019, 12:56:03 PM
I think the first half of this film is a lot stronger than the second, especially the whole bit in Egypt (and Bond holding that goon by the tie plus the whole Sphynx scene), it's the closer a Moore era film got to Terence Young. And I may be misremembering but it's the most iconic of the ski stunt scenes that became a staple of the series. That super tanker set is bonkers bit it's a little bit déjà vu from the fake hollow volcano (more generally the whole Curd Jurgens megalomaniacal plot). It's a bit unfair, I reckon, because they basically had to go IN SPACE and compete with 2001 VFX to try to top You Only Live Twice. I love Moonraker but The Spy... is the second strongest Bond film with maybe some of the best individual bits.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: Occam on July 15, 2019, 03:29:51 PM
Doesn't bode well. However, they recently moved the release date to April 8, 2020, so they've got almost 9 months left.

Is this thread for general Bond news, too?
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/jul/15/james-bond-007-black-female-actor-lashana-lynch-daniel-craig
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: Himu on July 15, 2019, 03:54:52 PM
Craig has two GOAT Bond films? Besides Casino Royale - which I agree with - what's the other? Skyfall? I couldn't disagree moree.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: Himu on July 15, 2019, 04:30:23 PM
CR is a classic. I haven't seen Skyfall since it was in theatres. I'll have to rewatch it.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: Rahxephon91 on July 15, 2019, 06:00:15 PM
I don’t care what anyone says. Crappily edited actions scenes aside. I liked QoS.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 15, 2019, 07:35:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHt2fUEhGvw

 :preach
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: Occam on July 16, 2019, 03:43:18 AM
I don’t care what anyone says. Crappily edited actions scenes aside. I liked QoS.

Same. The story wasn't bad. Wish there was a re-edited version that does away with all the millisecond cuts to make the action coherent.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: VomKriege on July 17, 2019, 12:32:45 PM
Skyfall is really good. Until the last act. Worst thing to happen in the whole series. Fuck that shit.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: Nintex on December 31, 2019, 09:10:43 PM
The main issue with Spectre for me is the performance of Waltz as Blofeld and the material he got to work with.

He was a fairly unknown German TV series actor until he nailed Hans Landa in Tarantino's Inglorious Bastards.
Suddenly Waltz was everywhere playing the 'bad guy' but in Spectre for some reason it didn't work beyond the introduction.
He's never as menacing as he is sitting at the table at the head of this crime syndicate.
But this shadowy figure then turns out to be somewhat of a cartoon villain fixated on Bond.

Javier Bardem on the other hand nailed it as Silva. Which is why for me Skyfall is by far the better film.
His performance is 75% of that movie and Spectre doesn't have such an iconic villain, which Blofeld could and should've been.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: VomKriege on February 14, 2020, 10:36:22 AM
Where is the fucking brass :rage
Daniel Craig retire bitch.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: Nintex on February 15, 2020, 06:18:54 AM
Theme song is better than expected. I'm pretty hyped for this film.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: VomKriege on February 15, 2020, 06:30:39 AM
Where is the fucking brass :rage
Daniel Craig retire bitch.

Not quick enough.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: Occam on February 17, 2020, 10:49:47 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB_S2qFh5lU

Weak. This remains the best Craig-era intro song:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=YnzgdBAKyJo

RIP Chris Cornell.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 17, 2020, 10:59:34 AM
The Casino Royale OP was lit af. :lawd
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Post by: Occam on February 17, 2020, 12:43:54 PM
Not by me, I loved it the first time I heard it.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 03, 2020, 07:19:16 PM
The Living Daylights is the most underrated Bond movie and Dalton is the most underrated Bond. I think that used to go to OHMSS and Lazenby respectively but I think people have a higher opinion of them now than a few years ago. The Brosnan era was tragic in terms of potential, the Madonna scenes in Die Another Day will always be the low point in the franchise.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 04, 2020, 06:44:09 AM
The Halle Berry scenes in Die Another Day are worse than any of the Madonna parts. Both the worst written and performed dialog in the entire series.

I don’t even remember the Halle Berry scenes, maybe because they were that bad. The World is Not Enough and Die Another Day are my least favorite Bond movies so it’s been a while since I’ve last seen them.
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Post by: MMaRsu on March 05, 2020, 02:52:42 AM
No Time To Die has been pushed back to the Fall due to corona fears :stahp

aww wtf ?> I was gonna see this with my dad
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Post by: MMaRsu on March 05, 2020, 02:54:59 AM
https://youtu.be/ml75GSIY8mw


 :yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck thee's an even worse one later in the movie but I can't find a clip of it

 :lol fucking hell
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Post by: VomKriege on May 20, 2020, 05:34:07 PM
That's one terrible plot :lol
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Post by: Joe Molotov on June 09, 2020, 08:31:10 PM
Scorpius (1987)


:yuck This dude fucking sucks. I have no idea how they let him have the keys to the kingdom for 15 fucking years. The plot of this one is a worldwide terrorist and arms dealer gets plastic surgery so he can form a comparative religions cult that uses suicide bombers in public places to causes chaos and destabilize governments and markets and elections. There's also a subplot about fucking credit cards with microchips that can be used to hack shit and it literally has no impact on anything other than a set up to draw Bond into the story. It's so fucking dull and dour and boring.

This dude sucks :camby

I like this bit of the Wiki synopsis:

Quote
At Scorpius' island, Bond meets up with Horner once again and the two actually marry at the behest of Scorpius. Knowing that the marriage is invalid, Bond agrees to go ahead with it thinking it would buy him time until he can escape. On the night the two decide to escape, Harriett is killed by a water moccasin.

Anulled, bitch.   :biden
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Post by: VomKriege on December 27, 2020, 06:47:32 AM
To respond to stro :

Watch On Her Majesty's Secret Service last night for Christmas

OHMSS definitely suffers from the length and Lazenby is probably the less memorable thing about it. It's definitely enhanced from having some actual personal stakes. On paper it's probably as trite as "killing the best friend" and "Bond daddy and M-ommy issues" but this one is the only that really pulls it off, probably because Diana Rigg and the film being made by the original Dream Team of technicians with that 60's flair to the image.

I remember Draco being really suave and rather high in the ranking of the obligatory Bond ally.

Not sure I think Savalas is the best Blofeld but it was an interesting choice. Charles Gray is probably my favourite.

Killer Propellerheads track too :
https://youtu.be/7O1_0hikl-A

In other news, Omega has the obligatory No Time to Die wristwatches out. The most boomer, most expensive merch piece but also a good colour scheme, especially on the NATO band.
The Aqua Terra they gave Nomi is not bad either.

https://www.omegawatches.com/fr/planet-omega/cinema/no-time-to-die

Also like a lot the 70's font they used for the title.
I'm super :larry on Bovine Craig but after theaters closed so long I definitely want to see this on the silver screen.

Edit : You get no discount on the 38mm compared to the 41mm one, why so greedy Omega.
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Post by: Transhuman on December 27, 2020, 07:14:09 AM
All previous Bonds < Female Bond

:whew
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Post by: Clockwork5 on December 27, 2020, 10:18:32 AM
Not sure I’ve ever sat down and watched a full bond movie. I did play a lot of GoldenEye back in the day though.  Yesterday I saw them all free on YouTube and now, like a sign, this thread appears out of nowhere.

“You only live twice” is a good one? I’ll give it a watch and report back. Heck, if I like it there are like 20 more free ones on YouTube
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Post by: Coax on December 27, 2020, 10:25:40 AM
With MGM shopping for a buyer (and them half-expecting it to be a streaming service) who knows what it'll mean for the Bond series on physical media. The series already had 4K restorations but were limited to online services only until the Craig series came out on Ultra HD Blu-Ray but there's been nothing since.

If Disney had bought them it would have meant no others would be seen in the format since they announced there would be no live-action UHD BD releases from them in the future.
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Post by: Clockwork5 on December 27, 2020, 11:31:56 AM
I’m sure watching them sequentially is a journey worth taking. Feels like a commitment though and if there is a stretch of a few I’m not in to, my fickle attention risks bouncing entirely. Though, I’m about 30 min in to YOLT and so far it’s pretty good.
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Post by: VomKriege on December 27, 2020, 12:17:27 PM
You Only Live Twice is one of the better films and I think a good choice for an introduction. As stro said, good balance of 60's eccentricity, playful exoticism (the problematic part), superior version of many of the tropes you'd expect, spectacular sequences.

Otherwise From Russia with Love but it's not the full Bond film formula yet.
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Post by: Clockwork5 on December 27, 2020, 01:07:16 PM
That was pretty good. The beginning didn’t really grab me and there were a couple parts where I was a little lost in the middle but apart from that I enjoyed it. It almost felt like a Bruce Lee flick at times. The car chase was a pretty good one and the shot where Bond is clotheslining dudes as he is running across the rooftop at the docks is kinda epic. Connery did well, the girls were cute and the ending was decent. I’ll dig into another one sometime soon.
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Post by: Clockwork5 on December 27, 2020, 01:11:27 PM
Are any of them Christmas movies the way, let’s say, Die Hard is a Christmas movie?
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Post by: Nintex on December 27, 2020, 01:49:58 PM
Are any of them Christmas movies the way, let’s say, Die Hard is a Christmas movie?
The World is Not Enough and On Her Majesty’s Secret Service

The first is more 'wink wink' 'nudge nudge' about it with a character named Christmas Jones and an ending on what seems to be New Years Eve.
Title: Re: James Bond Ranking And Discussion Thread
Post by: naff on January 19, 2021, 06:09:35 PM
So far my ranking is:

1. Casino Royale, Dr. No. I love them for different reasons. Idk which is my fav. Prob Dr. No.

2. The Spy Who Loved Me

3. From Russia With Love

4. GoldenEye

5. Thunderball

6. Spectre

7. Goldfinger

8. Live and Let Die

9. Moonraker

10. On Her Majesty's Secret Service

11. You Only Live Twice

12. Quantum of Solace

13. The Man With The Golden Gun

14. Diamonds Are Forever

That's as far as I've gotten. I have seen Octopussy, but only as a kid and i don't remember it. The ones i like i like a fair bit, they mix the right amount of action and camp. Much more love generally for Connery than Moore and the rest. I haven't rewatched Casino Royale for quite a long time so that's going by my historical rating as in I goddamn loved the movie, but I need to revisit it. Connery was really phoning it in by the time he got to You Only Live Twice. Surprised by how much I've enjoyed most of the films, my rating drops off p hard from Goldfinger down though and they start to become enjoyable artefacts/guilty pleasures vs. something I'd rec watching.
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Post by: naff on January 19, 2021, 06:24:47 PM
That's what I love about it. Low budget, much less focus on gadgets and the Bond formula. Fantastic settings, shots and character drama. Connery striding across rooms, being a suave mf'er investigating a mad but relatively benign villain in the scheme of things. A spy film vs an action movie. Thunderball feels like the turning point where the formula for future films is really laid down, and Bond is an action hero laden with gadgets constantly saving the world.
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Post by: chronovore on January 20, 2021, 09:54:15 PM
Bought ALL THE BOND FILMS because I am sick of not having them around, falling off of Netflix and Amazon in Japan, willy-nilly.

Started with Dr. No. Holy mackerel, this is pretty great. I mean, the asian woman isn't actually asian, but Bond is definitely doin' Bond Thangs.

Thunderball - What the shit? Is MOST of Austin Powers based on this? It's not even homage, it's like a straight rip for laughs. This movie is fun at first, but the underwater battle sequence LASTS FOREVER and isn't suspenseful. Also, speed ramped footage are a horrible and ineffective way to make things look like they're moving faster than they are. It's the uncanny valley of perception - we have too many cues to recognize that this is just sped-up.

I'll get through all of them eventually. I expect I will love many of them more than I remember, but I will still hate SPECTRE