Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 10:40:32 AM
:rejoice
He goes on to answer a critique i've seen some people in here levy against him. Once again he crushes.
Post by: benjipwns on June 29, 2018, 10:42:55 AM
Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 10:58:00 AM
needs a better thread title, sorry
:iface
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 29, 2018, 11:14:53 AM
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Post by: Joe Molotov on June 29, 2018, 11:57:29 AM
Timestamp?
0:01 - 0:04
Post by: team filler on June 29, 2018, 02:49:06 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 29, 2018, 02:52:11 PM
Post by: agrajag on June 29, 2018, 02:57:12 PM
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 29, 2018, 02:59:01 PM
Post by: agrajag on June 29, 2018, 03:00:11 PM
Anyone actually watch this or?
nah
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maybe benji did
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Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2018, 03:00:52 PM
Anyone actually watch this or?
I'm not tryna fuck up my youtube recommendations.
Post by: Let's Cyber on June 29, 2018, 03:07:57 PM
Probably because assimilate is a dumb, hateful piece of shit and I can imagine him making a thread aggrandizing someone like that.
Post by: benjipwns on June 29, 2018, 03:12:36 PM
For some reason I assumed this would be about Scott Peterson, the guy who murdered his pregnant wife.His appeal is still pending, INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. :bolo
Post by: agrajag on June 29, 2018, 03:16:23 PM
https://youtu.be/uq3SyaBuVn4
:bolo
Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 03:21:38 PM
For some reason I assumed this would be about Scott Peterson, the guy who murdered his pregnant wife.Are you trans or something?
Probably because assimilate is a dumb, hateful piece of shit and I can imagine him making a thread aggrandizing someone like that.
:beli
Funny how Assy didn't post about Peterson at all before etoilet got banished to the shadow realm. We see you, horsefucker.Not true at all but ok.
Post by: Huff on June 29, 2018, 04:37:43 PM
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 29, 2018, 04:59:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZMIbo_Dx
He goes on to answer a critique i've seen some people in here levy against him. Once again he crushes.
I'm expecting the answer to people's critique being the entire hour and 15 minutes, since I've basically never seen this guy make a coherent point.
Post by: thisismyusername on June 29, 2018, 05:16:38 PM
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Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 29, 2018, 05:35:08 PM
Post by: Tasty on June 29, 2018, 06:19:32 PM
#progress
Post by: Tasty on June 29, 2018, 06:20:47 PM
I still don’t know what Jordan’s peterskins whole deal. And I’m definitely not watching some incel video to find out.
Women are bad and need to be subservient to men because swamp witches and desiccated castles and hey is that cocaine?? *SNORT*
Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 06:22:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZMIbo_Dx
He goes on to answer a critique i've seen some people in here levy against him. Once again he crushes.
I'm expecting the answer to people's critique being the entire hour and 15 minutes, since I've basically never seen this guy make a coherent point.
Read a quick article on him and it couldn’t be more clear this dude is a huckster getting rich off of losers.
So you read a quick article and formulated a solid opinion on someone? Boy, no wonder some of you don't know how to wipe your own asses.
And seriously, this guy gets invited to the Oxford Union and he's somehow incoherent?
Bear with me here, Harvard thought him qualified enough to teach at their university, he has been tenured at Toronto University, had a successful practice and is asked to speak at well known institutions across the globe... consider, maybe just consider the possibility that some of you are simply fucking dumb?
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 29, 2018, 06:28:46 PM
I still don’t know what Jordan’s peterskins whole deal. And I’m definitely not watching some incel video to find out.
Women are bad and need to be subservient to men because swamp witches and desiccated castles and hey is that cocaine?? *SNORT*
You left out the lobsters!
Post by: Oblivion on June 29, 2018, 06:29:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZMIbo_Dx
He goes on to answer a critique i've seen some people in here levy against him. Once again he crushes.
I'm expecting the answer to people's critique being the entire hour and 15 minutes, since I've basically never seen this guy make a coherent point.Read a quick article on him and it couldn’t be more clear this dude is a huckster getting rich off of losers.
So you read a quick article and formulated a solid opinion on someone? Boy, no wonder some of you don't know how to wipe your own asses.
And seriously, this guy gets invited to the Oxford Union and he's somehow incoherent?
Bear with me here, Harvard thought him qualified enough to teach at their university, he has been tenured at Toronto University, had a successful practice and is asked to speak at well known institutions across the globe... consider, maybe just consider the possibility that some of you are simply fucking dumb?
Trump graduated from Wharton.
Post by: Oblivion on June 29, 2018, 06:32:12 PM
"See, I wasn't going to be an asshole BEFORE, but now that I have to not be an asshole under punishment of the State, I'm totally going to be one." - The leading conservative intellectual in the Western Hemisphere (tm)
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2018, 06:32:49 PM
Since we're talking about doing the reading.
Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 06:33:01 PM
That's not a fair comparison. Peterson didn't have a father worth over 100million dollars. Again, you guys are fucking stupid. You can't even parse obvious differences.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZMIbo_Dx
He goes on to answer a critique i've seen some people in here levy against him. Once again he crushes.
I'm expecting the answer to people's critique being the entire hour and 15 minutes, since I've basically never seen this guy make a coherent point.Read a quick article on him and it couldn’t be more clear this dude is a huckster getting rich off of losers.
So you read a quick article and formulated a solid opinion on someone? Boy, no wonder some of you don't know how to wipe your own asses.
And seriously, this guy gets invited to the Oxford Union and he's somehow incoherent?
Bear with me here, Harvard thought him qualified enough to teach at their university, he has been tenured at Toronto University, had a successful practice and is asked to speak at well known institutions across the globe... consider, maybe just consider the possibility that some of you are simply fucking dumb?
Trump graduated from Wharton.
And again Peterson didn't just graduate from a University, HE TAUGHT at Harvard.
Post by: Huff on June 29, 2018, 06:34:16 PM
Post by: Tasty on June 29, 2018, 06:38:32 PM
I still don’t know what Jordan’s peterskins whole deal. And I’m definitely not watching some incel video to find out.
Women are bad and need to be subservient to men because swamp witches and desiccated castles and hey is that cocaine?? *SNORT*
You left out the lobsters!
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/rvDUoIjU5djgI/giphy.gif)
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This GIF makes as much sense as anything Jordan Peterson has said.
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Post by: kingv on June 29, 2018, 06:38:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZMIbo_Dx
He goes on to answer a critique i've seen some people in here levy against him. Once again he crushes.
I'm expecting the answer to people's critique being the entire hour and 15 minutes, since I've basically never seen this guy make a coherent point.Read a quick article on him and it couldn’t be more clear this dude is a huckster getting rich off of losers.
So you read a quick article and formulated a solid opinion on someone? Boy, no wonder some of you don't know how to wipe your own asses.
And seriously, this guy gets invited to the Oxford Union and he's somehow incoherent?
Bear with me here, Harvard thought him qualified enough to teach at their university, he has been tenured at Toronto University, had a successful practice and is asked to speak at well known institutions across the globe... consider, maybe just consider the possibility that some of you are simply fucking dumb?
Trump graduated from Wharton.
Trump graduating from Wharton is an example of something is technically true, but for all practical purpose it’s a lie of omission.
He has an undergrad finance degree from Penn. it so happens that st Penn, the undergrad business classes are also taught at Wharton. This is not the same thing as graduating with a Masters Degree from Wharton, which is what everyone else in the world means when they say “I went to Wharton”.
As for Peterskin, he very well might be a smart guy... he’s clearly smart enough to realize that he can make a lot more money charging the rubes for seminars, and $200 for a 45 minute Skype call than teaching classes and actually practicing clinical psychology. Which actually seems somewhat far from what he pretends to do now.
Post by: Nola on June 29, 2018, 06:41:06 PM
Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 06:42:22 PM
.There's famous musicians that charge twice that for a bullshit 45min guitar lesson. Obama charges hundreds of thousands of dollars to speak at a seminar. What's your point?
As for Peterskin, he very well might be a smart guy... he’s clearly smart enough to realize that he can make a lot more money charging the rubes for seminars, and $200 for a 45 minute Skype call than teaching classes and actually practicing clinical psychology. Which actually seems somewhat far from what he pretends to do now.
This is all you guys have and it's pathetic.
Jordan Peterson, the new defacto go-to that maladjusted angry white culture warriors ape thinking it will shortcut them to appearing intelligent on the internet.Nola, like Peterson says, walk straight with your shoulders back. Clean your room. GET A JOB, kid. :lol
Post by: kingv on June 29, 2018, 06:59:27 PM
.There's famous musicians that charge twice that for a bullshit 45min guitar lesson. Obama charges hundreds of thousands of dollars to speak at a seminar. What's your point?
As for Peterskin, he very well might be a smart guy... he’s clearly smart enough to realize that he can make a lot more money charging the rubes for seminars, and $200 for a 45 minute Skype call than teaching classes and actually practicing clinical psychology. Which actually seems somewhat far from what he pretends to do now.
This is all you guys have and it's pathetic.Jordan Peterson, the new defacto go-to that maladjusted angry white culture warriors ape thinking it will shortcut them to appearing intelligent on the internet.Nola, like Peterson says, walk straight with your shoulders back. Clean your room. GET A JOB, kid. :lol
I’m not one to knock the hustle but I’m not going to pretend that this guy that is such a serious intellectual, researcher, and clinician that he gave up doing that entirely to give $100/seat lectures 15x per month because he taught at Harvard and got denied tenure.
It is what it is. He saw an opportunity to get rich because a lot of incels really liked how he refused to call a trans woman “she”. He picked up the ball and ran with it. But let’s be clear, his job is no longer serious research, it’s to tell a bunch of dudes who feel like they have been wronged by society what they want to hear.
Post by: Oblivion on June 29, 2018, 07:09:21 PM
That's not a fair comparison. Peterson didn't have a father worth over 100million dollars. Again, you guys are fucking stupid. You can't even parse obvious differences.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZMIbo_Dx
He goes on to answer a critique i've seen some people in here levy against him. Once again he crushes.
I'm expecting the answer to people's critique being the entire hour and 15 minutes, since I've basically never seen this guy make a coherent point.Read a quick article on him and it couldn’t be more clear this dude is a huckster getting rich off of losers.
So you read a quick article and formulated a solid opinion on someone? Boy, no wonder some of you don't know how to wipe your own asses.
And seriously, this guy gets invited to the Oxford Union and he's somehow incoherent?
Bear with me here, Harvard thought him qualified enough to teach at their university, he has been tenured at Toronto University, had a successful practice and is asked to speak at well known institutions across the globe... consider, maybe just consider the possibility that some of you are simply fucking dumb?
Trump graduated from Wharton.
And again Peterson didn't just graduate from a University, HE TAUGHT at Harvard.
You're (once again) missing the point, dipshit. The point is that achieving a certain educational level and/or occupation doesn't necessarily mean that you can't be incredibly stupid.
And your defense of daddy-o by referencing his work at Harvard and the UoT makes shit like this look WORSE, not better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdvS2Re21Og
Post by: thisismyusername on June 29, 2018, 07:12:34 PM
:goty2
Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 07:13:24 PM
But only that it's not just 'incels' and a bunch of 'dudes'. If it were he wouldn't be asked to speak at the Oxford Union, he wouldn't be on well respected panels, and news outlets (a long with the not so respected). You can not like him, you can disagree with him, but don't be fucking ridiculous pretending he's just here for the 'incels' and that's all he has.
It is what it is. He saw an opportunity to get rich because a lot of incels really liked how he refused to call a trans woman “she”. He picked up the ball and ran with it. But let’s be clear, his job is no longer serious research, it’s to tell a bunch of dudes who feel like they have been wronged by society what they want to hear.
I'd be willing to bet that most people outside of the SJ.W twitter verse and mainstream media outlets is sick and tired of the political correctness, and the whole LGBTQ intersectionality bullshit.
Even most of you on this very forum are, look at how often you dump on Ree and the people on there. To you they look crazy, to me you guys look like them. :idont
:dead
You're (once again) missing the point, dipshit. The point is that achieving a certain educational level and/or occupation doesn't necessarily mean that you can't be incredibly stupid.
Post by: Nintex on June 29, 2018, 07:28:11 PM
(https://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2017/06/03/dc4f50a4-e783-491d-a42f-be70b7026e4d/resize/620x/b95d02975484dc8112915fbdcba9d04c/jim-jefferies.jpg)
"Have you seen my lazy ass cat mate?"
Post by: Steve Contra on June 29, 2018, 07:28:13 PM
Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 07:38:28 PM
Can you point me to that?
As for Peterson, he all but admitted to being a scammer in that NY Times piece, at least admitting to putting on a character and selling what his audience wants to hear. And as his audience changes, so does his messaging.
I'm just going to say that watching a 1:15 minute youtube video of Jordan Peterson makes you a fucking loser and no amount of intellectual wankery is going to save you from that.And consuming endless amounts of pop culture makes you a genius :playa
Post by: agrajag on June 29, 2018, 07:41:47 PM
Post by: Oblivion on June 29, 2018, 07:51:43 PM
As for Peterson, he all but admitted to being a scammer in that NY Times piece, at least admitting to putting on a character and selling what his audience wants to hear. And as his audience changes, so does his messaging.
It's particularly weird because he said that he's learned how to "monetize the Social Studies Warriors", but....it's not the Social Studies Warriors that are contributing to his Patreon and paying to see him speak and do $200 45 minute "consults", but rather, the Assimilates of the world (which, to be fair, do deserve to be parted with their money as much as possible).
Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 07:54:37 PM
That's the thing, i don't remember anything like that in that article. I vaguely recall him saying his outfits are a bit more traditional now, like a three piece... but that's all.
Are you too fucking lazy to google Jordan Peterson NY Times
It was heavily linked and discussed in Wank Dad thread and I'm sure you commented on it. You're the laziest troll I swear.
Post by: Tasty on June 29, 2018, 08:04:11 PM
Nola, like Peterson says, walk straight with your shoulders back. Clean your room. GET A JOB, kid. :lol
(https://static4.fjcdn.com/comments/Gtyfw+the+gameboy+advance+_a9668d28f29bfc8a822201a902b1fab3.png)
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2018, 08:05:04 PM
And changing his cadence and vocabulary specifically to echo traveling salesmen types from the fucking 1800s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI_Oe-jtgdI
:bow Robert Preston :bow2
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2018, 08:08:38 PM
Post by: Tasty on June 29, 2018, 08:09:19 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 29, 2018, 08:10:54 PM
Bear with me here, Harvard thought him qualified enough to teach at their university, he has been tenured at Toronto University, had a successful practice and is asked to speak at well known institutions across the globe... consider, maybe just consider the possibility that some of you are simply fucking dumb?
Ben Carson graduated from Yale and did his residency at John Hopkins, but have you heard the guy talk about anything that isn't brain surgery?
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2018, 08:11:23 PM
:'(
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2018, 08:15:00 PM
Ben Carson graduated from Yale and did his residency at John Hopkins, but have you heard the guy talk about anything that isn't brain surgery?
Larry Lessig is a tenured professor at Harvard, and his idea to save American politics was to run for president, magically pass campaign finance reform, then immediately resign. That is to say Larry Lessig, in at least some aspects, is stupendously dumb.
Post by: Tasty on June 29, 2018, 08:15:54 PM
When really we've spent the entire thread shitposting and bagging on him.
Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 08:16:37 PM
As for Peterson, he all but admitted to being a scammer in that NY Times piece, at least admitting to putting on a character and selling what his audience wants to hear. And as his audience changes, so does his messaging.
And changing his cadence and vocabulary specifically to echo traveling salesmen types from the fucking 1800s
Quote
That’s the point. His speech too is from another era — stilted, with old-timey phrases, a hypnotic rhythm. It’s a vocal tactic he came to only recently. Videos from a few years ago have him speaking and dressing in a more modern way.So he now wears a three piece suit and talks a bit more 'stilted' (according to the writer) and basically that's him admitting to being a scammer? :mindblown
You guys are too fucking much. It's like you've been reading so many clickbait headlines that you now formulate everything into clickbait in your minds.
It's astonishing. Some of you are hopelessly fucked. Not even Daddy Peterson can save you :neogaf
I can't wait for Assy to come back after another page or two and be all "Ah ha! I knew I could trigger you Social Studies Warriors! U SAY U DONT CARE BUT WAT ABOUT ALL THESE POSTS??"Nah nah, there's people in here legitimately stupid and not just trying to troll me. There's sincerity in the stupidity in here.
When really we've spent the entire thread shitposting and bagging on him.
Post by: Nola on June 29, 2018, 08:17:22 PM
Post by: thisismyusername on June 29, 2018, 08:19:04 PM
I can't wait for Assy to come back after another page or two and be all "Ah ha! I knew I could trigger you Social Studies Warriors! U SAY U DONT CARE BUT WAT ABOUT ALL THESE POSTS??"
When really we've spent the entire thread shitposting and bagging on him.
Live long enough, and you turn from a voat reject into EToilet 2.0
Nah nah, there's people in here legitimately stupid and not just trying to troll me. There's sincerity in the stupidity in here.
:goty2 Weak bait. Apply yourself. :goty2
Post by: Oblivion on June 29, 2018, 08:19:12 PM
Bear with me here, Harvard thought him qualified enough to teach at their university, he has been tenured at Toronto University, had a successful practice and is asked to speak at well known institutions across the globe... consider, maybe just consider the possibility that some of you are simply fucking dumb?
Ben Carson graduated from Yale and did his residency at John Hopkins, but have you heard the guy talk about anything that isn't brain surgery?
Ooh, that's an even better example. And let's not forget my man, my preferred front runner for the Republican nomination in 2012, Herman "THE MUTHALOVIN' CAIN TRAIN" Cain, who was a literal rocket scientist.
Post by: agrajag on June 29, 2018, 08:19:21 PM
Post by: Tasty on June 29, 2018, 08:20:31 PM
Well yeah, assimilate is just the shit streaks in an e-toilet.
Newsfeed
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2018, 08:21:52 PM
but assimilate faking it with peterson is almost as bad as when he was pretending to like those matrix sequels
Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 08:22:45 PM
Assimilate clearly thinks Peterson triggers the libs around here and that is basically 95% of Assimilate's enjoyment out of this site(and seemingly his go to way to try and convince himself he is better than other people), but clearly based on his lack of intellectual curiosity in general, the guy doesn't have it in him to radicalize himself to Peterson like the etiolate's that truly find self-worth in finding those perceived intellectual arguments that reinforce their biases.What biases? I still don't see anything controversial about Peterson. At least not so far as something you can't actually witness for yourself. For example, college campuses are fucking brutal these days. Kicking comedians out, rallying to prevent people from speaking (not protest, legitimately shutting people out with blow horns), safe spaces, etc. That's something he talks about, and there's evidence for it.
What else? The stripping of masculinity? Well, yeah, aren't we seeing the phrase "toxic masculinity" used continuously now? I mean, we can argue that this is only in assbackwards places like Ree but Ree gets it from pop culture, hollywood, mainstream media. It's there.
Compelled speech? The thing that most of you hate him for. Again, not very controversial to me and i've always been in full agreement. I don't think we need to be calling people cis, and zir.
Apparently, these things make you an incel now or something. :lol
Post by: agrajag on June 29, 2018, 08:22:50 PM
Assy repeatedly referring to Jordan P as "daddy" is quite disturbingm
Sounds like it triggers you, typical libcuck
literally shaking rite now
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2018, 08:24:18 PM
i'm not buying it tho
Post by: thisismyusername on June 29, 2018, 08:25:20 PM
i'm not buying it tho
That's ok, because provided your Library uses this service (https://www.overdrive.com/media/3865286/maps-of-meaning) you can borrow it and not give Peterson a dime.
Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 08:25:33 PM
Ok? But this is within Petersons field and he uses his knowledge from his trade to apply to current social issues. He's not applying brain surgery to debate the merits of compelled speech.Bear with me here, Harvard thought him qualified enough to teach at their university, he has been tenured at Toronto University, had a successful practice and is asked to speak at well known institutions across the globe... consider, maybe just consider the possibility that some of you are simply fucking dumb?
Ben Carson graduated from Yale and did his residency at John Hopkins, but have you heard the guy talk about anything that isn't brain surgery?
:confused
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2018, 08:27:37 PM
also a reminder jp's wrong about propaganda vs. art
hairplugs can't hide shitty opinions
Post by: benjipwns on June 29, 2018, 08:27:48 PM
Post by: Oblivion on June 29, 2018, 08:28:25 PM
Ok? But this is within Petersons field and he uses his knowledge from his trade to apply to current social issues. He's not applying brain surgery to debate the merits of compelled speech.Bear with me here, Harvard thought him qualified enough to teach at their university, he has been tenured at Toronto University, had a successful practice and is asked to speak at well known institutions across the globe... consider, maybe just consider the possibility that some of you are simply fucking dumb?
Ben Carson graduated from Yale and did his residency at John Hopkins, but have you heard the guy talk about anything that isn't brain surgery?
:confused
He's a psychologist who got famous for thinking he was a lawyer.
Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 08:30:34 PM
He's a psychologist who got famous for thinking he was a lawyer.
:oreilly
we're at full fledged autism ladies and gentlemen. opps, i mean zirs and zims. :doge
Post by: thisismyusername on June 29, 2018, 08:32:30 PM
zirs and zims. :doge
>implying theres many transexuals here
:goty2 You're not even trying.
Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 08:32:52 PM
Stro, i just looked through my closet and found a three piece suit i bought a few years ago.Ok? But this is within Petersons field and he uses his knowledge in from his trade to apply to current social issues. He's not using applying brain surgery to debate the merits of compelled speech.Bear with me here, Harvard thought him qualified enough to teach at their university, he has been tenured at Toronto University, had a successful practice and is asked to speak at well known institutions across the globe... consider, maybe just consider the possibility that some of you are simply fucking dumb?
Ben Carson graduated from Yale and did his residency at John Hopkins, but have you heard the guy talk about anything that isn't brain surgery?
:confused
He actually doesn't, considering clinical psychology doesn't use Jungian bullshit or evolutionary psychology, nor does it involve bitching about PC culture.
What do you think about that? :pimp
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2018, 08:39:04 PM
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on June 29, 2018, 08:39:21 PM
Post by: benjipwns on June 29, 2018, 08:39:39 PM
wait, nobody told me we'd have to read a bookif assimilate reads maps of meaning i will too and we can have a book club
i'm not buying it tho
That's ok, because provided your Library uses this service (https://www.overdrive.com/media/3865286/maps-of-meaning) you can borrow it and not give Peterson a dime.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 29, 2018, 08:40:53 PM
i mean, i can only go "evo psych lol" and "ayy lmao biotruths" for so many posts, lay me up some better dunks ma familia
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2018, 08:41:26 PM
wait, nobody told me we'd have to read a book
1 only if assimilate reads it so actually never
2 motherfucker we know what pundits you read, don't lie about having standards now
Post by: Oblivion on June 29, 2018, 08:43:08 PM
He's a psychologist who got famous for thinking he was a lawyer.
:oreilly
we're at full fledged autism ladies and gentlemen. opps, i mean zirs and zims. :doge
Man, you're dense.
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2018, 08:44:13 PM
i just showed up for the refresher on terminology used by incels who think college campus shenanigans translate into real world issues
i mean, i can only go "evo psych lol" and "ayy lmao biotruths" for so many posts, lay me up some better dunks ma familia
JP's whole theory basically boils down to "intelligent design, proved via evo psych" which is fucking wild.
Post by: Nola on June 29, 2018, 08:45:31 PM
He's a psychologist who got famous for thinking he was a lawyer.
:oreilly
we're at full fledged autism ladies and gentlemen. opps, i mean zirs and zims. :doge
His initial boost of fame was misunderstanding a piece of proposed Canadian legislation and going into meltdown mode over it. Attracting followers that clearly weren't interested in understanding the facts around the legislation but liked the cut of his jib all the same.
That has sort of been his hallmark ever since(that and dressing up common sense self-help advice in a Jungian package). Taking inflammatory positions, often ones he is misinformed about, and bloviating about it in a way that appears intellectually rigorous and logically sound if you aren't motivated to really dissect and question him.
Post by: benjipwns on June 29, 2018, 08:45:44 PM
Why did you run away from our discussion in the US politics thread, Assy? I thought daddy E would have taught you not to be a coward.yeah, we never got a figure on that grant proposal...
Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 08:47:13 PM
Why did you run away from our discussion in the US politics thread, Assy? I thought daddy E would have taught you not to be a coward.We can continue. I'm staying in for the night we got World Cup tomorrow morning 8)
what do you think of mr free speech suing his old coworkers cuz they said mean things about him in privateBeak's, equating what a professor at a University says to Hitler propaganda is...libel.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 29, 2018, 08:48:15 PM
he's been gripping his oyster turds in a vice of pretentious rhetoric ever since
Post by: Tasty on June 29, 2018, 08:49:48 PM
Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 08:50:16 PM
his initial stance was straight up red meat garbaggio: THINK OF THE COLLEGE AGE MALE CHILDREN!!!Considering there's less males going and graduating from Universities now while at the same time being dealt "toxic masculinity" bullshit? Don't you think just maybe it can be a talking point to be considered?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 29, 2018, 08:51:42 PM
his initial stance was straight up red meat garbaggio: THINK OF THE COLLEGE AGE MALE CHILDREN!!!Considering there's less males going and graduating from Universities now while at the same time being dealt "toxic masculinity" bullshit? Don't you think just maybe it can be a talking point to be considered?
nope. do you think jet fuel can melt steel beams?
Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 08:52:20 PM
But there are legitimately intelligent and qualified people that do take him seriously. I guess because none of your keyboard friends take him seriously you don't? Maybe if he ended up in a Marvel movie or on Hollywood Access?
It really is, and even more wild that anyone gives him validity on what he's saying NOW because he taught at Harvard, even if they're doing it just to troll. The idea that anyone takes this dude who would fit right in on season 8 of Ancient Aliens seriously because he taught at Harvard is hilarious.
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2018, 08:52:30 PM
his initial stance was straight up red meat garbaggio: THINK OF THE COLLEGE AGE MALE CHILDREN!!!
oh, it's amaaaaaaaazingly fuckin' transparent that his fans are in it purely for the conclusions, and the pseudo-academic shit is just a garnish
like, imagine some lady professor rambles for a couple hours on youtube about how we can deduce our true purpose as human from literal children's stories, throws in some mystical shit about ancient Egyptians knowing the shape of the DNA molecule, draws a flow chart to explain human society with a "dragon of chaos" in the middle, and then says this all proves feminism is good?
"well i'm convinced!" they would certainly not say
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 29, 2018, 08:53:26 PM
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 29, 2018, 08:54:30 PM
his initial stance was straight up red meat garbaggio: THINK OF THE COLLEGE AGE MALE CHILDREN!!!
oh, it's amaaaaaaaazingly fuckin' transparent that his fans are in it purely for the conclusions, and the pseudo-academic shit is just a garnish
like, imagine some lady professor rambles for a couple hours on youtube about how we can deduce our true purpose as human from literal children's stories, throws in some mystical shit about ancient Egyptians knowing the shape of the DNA molecule, draws a flow chart to explain human society with a "dragon of chaos" in the middle, and then says this all proves feminism is good?
"well i'm convinced!" they would certainly not say
itt evergreen college gets daps
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2018, 08:54:54 PM
equating what a professor at a University says to Hitler propaganda is...libel.
lmao jp routinely and explicitly compares gender neutral pronouns to stalinism
but again, you don't care, you don't believe jp's shit, and you aren't gonna read his essay, much less the book
Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 08:54:54 PM
If it could be shown to be done then sure. 911 truthers can't prove that and it's a conspiracy theory. The trend of more women than males graduating from University is a statistical fact.
nope. do you think jet fuel can melt steel beams?
Here from Times http://time.com/4064665/women-college-degree/
:clap autism.
Do you know what libel is? did he single out a specific professor and accuse them of something hideous? You guys are fucking moronic. This is becoming boring.equating what a professor at a University says to Hitler propaganda is...libel.
lmao jp routinely and explicitly compares gender neutral pronouns to stalinism
but again, you don't care, you don't believe jp's shit, and you aren't gonna read his essay, much less the book
Post by: Nola on June 29, 2018, 08:55:36 PM
Beak's, equating what a professor at a University says to Hitler propaganda is...libel.
It's actually slander, but tell me you can at least grasp the absurdity of Peterson suing people for calling him Goebbels when he routinely associates people he disagrees with to the worst atrocities of Communism lol?
Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 08:57:18 PM
That in 2018 most people don't get.But there are legitimately intelligent and qualified people that do take him seriously. I guess because none of your keyboard friends take him seriously you don't? Maybe if he ended up in a Marvel movie or on Hollywood Access?
It really is, and even more wild that anyone gives him validity on what he's saying NOW because he taught at Harvard, even if they're doing it just to troll. The idea that anyone takes this dude who would fit right in on season 8 of Ancient Aliens seriously because he taught at Harvard is hilarious.
What he talks about to people in 2018 has literally nothing to do with what he taught at Harvard. There's nothing to TAKE seriously. His popularity is baffling since he's just saying the most basic and generic platitudes with the occasional weirdo idiosyncratic thing that is usually meme worthy in its weirdness or stupidity. How are you trying to turn this into bitching about Marvel movies :lol :lol :lol
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How are you trying to turn this into bitching about Marvel movies :lol :lol :lol
:rollsafe
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 29, 2018, 08:57:53 PM
y'all
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2018, 08:58:00 PM
Considering there's less males going and graduating from Universities now while at the same time being dealt "toxic masculinity" bullshit? Don't you think just maybe it can be a talking point to be considered?
Here from Times http://time.com/4064665/women-college-degree/
Quote from: Time
Last year, 29.9% of men had a bachelor’s degree... A decade prior, in 2005, 28.5% of men had bachelor’s degree
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Post by: benjipwns on June 29, 2018, 08:59:33 PM
The trend of more women than males graduating from University is a statistical fact.i'm not sure why it's necessarily a problem when both trend lines are going up:
Here from Times http://time.com/4064665/women-college-degree/
(https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/newsroom/blogs/2015/10/women-now-at-the-head-of-the-class-lead-men-in-college-attainment/Figure-1-Trend-Line-Sex-2005-2014-2.jpg)
Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 08:59:34 PM
But the trend is moving in the other direction.Considering there's less males going and graduating from Universities now while at the same time being dealt "toxic masculinity" bullshit? Don't you think just maybe it can be a talking point to be considered?Here from Times http://time.com/4064665/women-college-degree/Quote from: TimeLast year, 29.9% of men had a bachelor’s degree... A decade prior, in 2005, 28.5% of men had bachelor’s degree
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Young women are driving the change. In the 25-34 age group, 37.5% of women have a bachelor’s degree or higher, while only 29.5% of men do
:clap autism.
Post by: Nola on June 29, 2018, 08:59:56 PM
Considering there's less males going and graduating from Universities now while at the same time being dealt "toxic masculinity" bullshit? Don't you think just maybe it can be a talking point to be considered?Here from Times http://time.com/4064665/women-college-degree/Quote from: TimeLast year, 29.9% of men had a bachelor’s degree... A decade prior, in 2005, 28.5% of men had bachelor’s degree
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahaha
ASSIMILATE - "Anyone can make up numbers man, but no one can prove my feelings on the matter are wrong. Checkmate college intellectual"
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 29, 2018, 09:00:30 PM
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Post by: seagrams hotsauce on June 29, 2018, 09:00:56 PM
Why did you run away from our discussion in the US politics thread, Assy? I thought daddy E would have taught you not to be a coward.We can continue. I'm staying in for the night we got World Cup tomorrow morning 8)what do you think of mr free speech suing his old coworkers cuz they said mean things about him in privateBeak's, equating what a professor at a University says to Hitler propaganda is...libel.
you don't know what libel means lol
Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 09:01:25 PM
I never said it was a problem at least not yet.The trend of more women than males graduating from University is a statistical fact.i'm not sure why it's necessarily a problem when both trend lines are going up:
Here from Times http://time.com/4064665/women-college-degree/
This is what i said in response to Vanidiot
his initial stance was straight up red meat garbaggio: THINK OF THE COLLEGE AGE MALE CHILDREN!!!Considering there's less males going and graduating from Universities now while at the same time being dealt "toxic masculinity" bullshit? Don't you think just maybe it can be a talking point to be considered?
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2018, 09:02:05 PM
But the trend is moving in the other direction.
Quote from: Time
Rates of college attainment for men and women in this age group are increasing roughly equally.)
hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 29, 2018, 09:02:24 PM
Post by: benjipwns on June 29, 2018, 09:03:29 PM
Considering there's less males going and graduating from Universities now
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Between 2005 and 2015, the number of full-time male postbaccalaureate students increased by 24 percent... Among part-time postbaccalaureate students, the number of males enrolled in 2015 was 6 percent higher than in 2005
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2018, 09:03:36 PM
https://www.academia.edu/20852194/RELIGION_SOVEREIGNTY_NATURAL_RIGHTS_AND_THE_CONSTITUENT_ELEMENTS_OF_EXPERIENCE
Post by: Nola on June 29, 2018, 09:04:45 PM
Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 09:05:06 PM
oh no i didn't include slander in with libel. one is spoken and one is written.Why did you run away from our discussion in the US politics thread, Assy? I thought daddy E would have taught you not to be a coward.We can continue. I'm staying in for the night we got World Cup tomorrow morning 8)what do you think of mr free speech suing his old coworkers cuz they said mean things about him in privateBeak's, equating what a professor at a University says to Hitler propaganda is...libel.
you don't know what libel means lol
:borys
put on our autism pants and dance
Post by: benjipwns on June 29, 2018, 09:05:09 PM
what's the current graduation rate for lobsters from higher ed institutions? 0.0% you say?probably not, you know those hippie liberal arts schools, likely one in Maine or something
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2018, 09:06:19 PM
thank you and back to regular programming
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on June 29, 2018, 09:06:31 PM
oh no i didn't include slander in with libel. one is spoken and one is written.Why did you run away from our discussion in the US politics thread, Assy? I thought daddy E would have taught you not to be a coward.We can continue. I'm staying in for the night we got World Cup tomorrow morning 8)what do you think of mr free speech suing his old coworkers cuz they said mean things about him in privateBeak's, equating what a professor at a University says to Hitler propaganda is...libel.
you don't know what libel means lol
:borys
put on our autism pants and dance
no, you used the right word, you just don't know what it means because you aren't very smart
Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 09:07:25 PM
Oh i totally get where a lot of you come from. it's why you guys see everything in this viewpoint. it's pretty apparent.
You apparently never come to the Mid West, where that basic ass bitching about how things USED to be and you can't do this or that or say this or that anymore and it's bullshit is the daily conversation in garages where 50+ year old men drink beer and smoke while wearing tank tops and jeans without belts. And the conversation has been the same for 100+ years.
But yeah, no one is hearing such things as "men can't be men anymore" until Peterson brought it back, despite it being a constant on every form of media since there's been media :lol :lol :lol
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 29, 2018, 09:07:33 PM
Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 09:08:04 PM
Seagrams, i've seen your Beak. If you don't work in anything other than a gastation i'd be fucking stunned.oh no i didn't include slander in with libel. one is spoken and one is written.Why did you run away from our discussion in the US politics thread, Assy? I thought daddy E would have taught you not to be a coward.We can continue. I'm staying in for the night we got World Cup tomorrow morning 8)what do you think of mr free speech suing his old coworkers cuz they said mean things about him in privateBeak's, equating what a professor at a University says to Hitler propaganda is...libel.
you don't know what libel means lol
:borys
put on our autism pants and dance
no, you used the right word, you just don't know what it means because you aren't very smart
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2018, 09:08:28 PM
he's losing a game of chicken to the bore's premiere coward smh
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on June 29, 2018, 09:08:56 PM
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on June 29, 2018, 09:10:21 PM
Post by: BisMarckie on June 29, 2018, 09:10:48 PM
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 29, 2018, 09:11:31 PM
Post by: Oblivion on June 29, 2018, 09:12:25 PM
his initial stance was straight up red meat garbaggio: THINK OF THE COLLEGE AGE MALE CHILDREN!!!
oh, it's amaaaaaaaazingly fuckin' transparent that his fans are in it purely for the conclusions, and the pseudo-academic shit is just a garnish
like, imagine some lady professor rambles for a couple hours on youtube about how we can deduce our true purpose as human from literal children's stories, throws in some mystical shit about ancient Egyptians knowing the shape of the DNA molecule, draws a flow chart to explain human society with a "dragon of chaos" in the middle, and then says this all proves feminism is good?
"well i'm convinced!" they would certainly not say
Yeah, it's amazing how many self-proclaimed atheists he's either managed to convert or twist themselves into knots defending his mystic, bible thumping bullshit.
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 29, 2018, 09:12:43 PM
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2018, 09:14:25 PM
I can't fathom how anyone can take this dude seriously. Some basic ass talking points packaged into pseudo-intellectual words. Somehow he makes a fortune selling his drivel to people.
Makes more sense if you think of him as a self-help dude than a political one. The market for that shit is yuuuuuuuuge, but generally the audiences don't loudly demand validation from the various cultural gatekeepers. Like nobody was yelling at the NYRB to give props to The Secret, yanno?
Post by: Tasty on June 29, 2018, 09:15:15 PM
-63.21% of all Assimilate posts
"Matrix Revolutions is secretly awesome guys!"
-36.79% of all Assimilate posts
Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 09:15:20 PM
it's also hilarious that you're in here screaming how dumb everyone is while you can even barely type coherently
:confused
no, you used the right word, you just don't know what it means because you aren't very smart
maybe you're on 4d autism chess but go on explain it to me
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 29, 2018, 09:15:35 PM
and they're doubly sore that their brand of paaaaiiin isn't social currency
jp is what one of them evolves into when he holds a college degree and fights 99 pokemon #pokepsych
Post by: agrajag on June 29, 2018, 09:15:51 PM
i'd love to know what men can't do these days
graduate
lol
Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 09:16:30 PM
lol you're so gassed bro. have fun owning yourself more dipshitWhich gas station do you work at my guy?
Chevron? Shell?
:birb
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on June 29, 2018, 09:18:08 PM
Post by: benjipwns on June 29, 2018, 09:18:35 PM
i'd love to know what men can't do these daysbe a swamp witch
1. they'd be a swamp warlock
2. trump is draining the swamp
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on June 29, 2018, 09:18:49 PM
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 29, 2018, 09:19:44 PM
i'd love to know what men can't do these daysbe a swamp witch
1. they'd be a swamp warlock
2. trump is draining the swamp
u down 2 yaga my baba bae :-*
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2018, 09:19:47 PM
most self-proclaimed atheists are just contrarians perpetually on the brink of intellectual rectal prolapse
and they're doubly sore that their brand of paaaaiiin isn't social currency
I found an essay on how the "skeptic community" got suckered into a moral panic about campus political correctness, written by a guy who considers himself part of that community (it was published in Skeptic magazine).
That essay was published in 1996.
Time is a flat circle.
Post by: agrajag on June 29, 2018, 09:20:32 PM
Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 09:21:32 PM
libel entails irreparable damage to someones reputation. in no way did your pop pop suffer as a result of those consequences. it's a dumb suit that will fail and it's yet another glaring red flag the lil goofballs who suck him off hilariously twist themselves in knots trying to explainHoly fuck.
So you're telling me i didn't understand what a defamation lawsuit is when he's in fact suing for defamation? http://torontosun.com/news/provincial/peterson-launches-defamation-suit-against-wilfrid-laurier-university
So you just went on that little beaky rant off your own interpretation of what will or will not happen in court? :duh
WE HAVE REACHED BEAK AUTISM FOLKS
:clap :derp
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 29, 2018, 09:21:57 PM
however, i know more'n a few -- many edging into retirement home territory -- who feel simpatico with daddy p
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on June 29, 2018, 09:23:35 PM
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 29, 2018, 09:23:47 PM
you'll notice he's ducking my posts that break kayfabe
he's losing a game of chicken to the bore's premiere coward smh
He's ducking you, ducking me, ducking anything that he can' really argue against.
Say what you will about the late, great wankpappy. He at least had some conviction.
Fairytales and lies, he did the same thing
Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 09:23:47 PM
What am i ducking? Sorry, i got distracted by a moron. Stupid me for even giving my time.you'll notice he's ducking my posts that break kayfabe
he's losing a game of chicken to the bore's premiere coward smh
He's ducking you, ducking me, ducking anything that he can' really argue against.
Say what you will about the late, great wankpappy. He at least had some conviction.
Continue...
Post by: Oblivion on June 29, 2018, 09:24:17 PM
libel entails irreparable damage to someones reputation. in no way did your pop pop suffer as a result of those consequences. it's a dumb suit that will fail and it's yet another glaring red flag the lil goofballs who suck him off hilariously twist themselves in knots trying to explainHoly fuck.
So you're telling me i didn't understand what a defamation lawsuit is when he's in fact suing for defamation? http://torontosun.com/news/provincial/peterson-launches-defamation-suit-against-wilfrid-laurier-university
How does this statement address seagrams' post?
Post by: benjipwns on June 29, 2018, 09:25:30 PM
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Peterson’s lawyer said the U of T professor cannot allow a university to viciously slander him, let alone compare his comments to a speech by Hitler, when he has spent his life and career teaching against the evils of the Holocaust and despots.canada annihilated
“The politically correct on campus should not think that they can defame people, slander people and bully people implicitly and explicitly with impunity,” Levitt said. “This isn’t just some internet troll mouthing off in a way that no one pays attention to and doesn’t give any credence to. These are professors and head of gender equity studies making comments that are atrocious about Dr. Peterson who is one of if not Canada’s most prominent intellectual.”
Post by: BisMarckie on June 29, 2018, 09:26:35 PM
QuotePeterson’s lawyer said the U of T professor cannot allow a university to viciously slander him, let alone compare his comments to a speech by Hitler, when he has spent his life and career teaching against the evils of the Holocaust and despots.canada annihilated
“The politically correct on campus should not think that they can defame people, slander people and bully people implicitly and explicitly with impunity,” Levitt said. “This isn’t just some internet troll mouthing off in a way that no one pays attention to and doesn’t give any credence to. These are professors and head of gender equity studies making comments that are atrocious about Dr. Peterson who is one of if not Canada’s most prominent intellectual.”
:dead
Post by: Tasty on June 29, 2018, 09:27:31 PM
(http://ircimg.net/lol-i-trol-you.png)
You stole my post sloppier than Assy stole etoilet's schtick! :bolo (http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45681.msg2451393#msg2451393)
Post by: Tasty on June 29, 2018, 09:29:00 PM
You stole my post sloppier than Assy rode etoilet's dick! :bolo
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2018, 09:29:35 PM
i have yet to encounter any adult taxpaying human who holds a hot take on social issues identical to a college campus leftist radical
however, i know more'n a few -- many edging into retirement home territory -- who feel simpatico with daddy p
like even if we conceded that kids are just making up genders to be trendy and guilt trip you over risque jokes and are always virtue signalin', how the FUCK does that get treated like an urgent social problem rather than mild annoyance?
look at this shit:
(http://bilhartzmd.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/ftotHealthExp_pC_USD_long.png)
people literally dying but no, the real threat to civilization is buzzfeed listicle feminism
sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit
Post by: Tasty on June 29, 2018, 09:31:24 PM
Post by: Oblivion on June 29, 2018, 09:31:51 PM
i have yet to encounter any adult taxpaying human who holds a hot take on social issues identical to a college campus leftist radical
however, i know more'n a few -- many edging into retirement home territory -- who feel simpatico with daddy p
like even if we conceded that kids are just making up genders to be trendy and guilt trip you over risque jokes and are always virtue signalin', how the FUCK does that get treated like an urgent social problem rather than mild annoyance?
look at this shit:
(http://bilhartzmd.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/ftotHealthExp_pC_USD_long.png)
people literally dying but no, the real threat to civilization is buzzfeed listicle feminism
sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit
The fact that gender pronouns are the worst and most oppressive struggles in people like Assimilate's life tells you a lot about his kind.
Post by: agrajag on June 29, 2018, 09:31:55 PM
Alt. reply:
You stole my post sloppier than Assy rode etoilet's dick! :bolo
your link is broken, so your image doesn't show up. Settle down, kiddo
Post by: team filler on June 29, 2018, 09:33:29 PM
:lol :lol :lollibel entails irreparable damage to someones reputation. in no way did your pop pop suffer as a result of those consequences. it's a dumb suit that will fail and it's yet another glaring red flag the lil goofballs who suck him off hilariously twist themselves in knots trying to explainHoly fuck.
So you're telling me i didn't understand what a defamation lawsuit is when he's in fact suing for defamation? http://torontosun.com/news/provincial/peterson-launches-defamation-suit-against-wilfrid-laurier-university
So you just went on that little beaky rant off your own interpretation of what will or will not happen in court? :duh
WE HAVE REACHED BEAK AUTISM FOLKS
:clap :derp
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2018, 09:33:43 PM
Ugh who the fuck wants to live into their 80s anyway
I kinda want to read Winds of Winter
Post by: BisMarckie on June 29, 2018, 09:33:46 PM
Ugh who the fuck wants to live into their 80s anyway
Spoken like a true wrestling fan. :salute
Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 09:34:44 PM
Who said anything about stripping men of their masculinity? Unless you consider masculinity to be making more money than women for working the same job and being able to harass them without being condemned. Which basically means masculinity is to be babied. Don't think that's very masculine to be honest. There being some invisible war on masculinity is an alt-right talking point, yes.
Some people are born smarter than others is very different than what you posted, and I quote: "do i believe there could be a genetic difference between races in intelligence? -yes" you specified races. There's no science to back this up and it's essentially a racist view. It's also an alt-right talking point. Are you dense? Or do you just not want to associate yourself with trumpkins even though you pretty much agree with their views?
Yeah, i do think masculinity is under a bit of an attack. I see it, i've lived it. I've lived in a very progressive town, it was brutal. Does this reflect every suburban town in America? No, obviously not. I'm sure if you live in the midwest you don't see that. But in terms of coastal areas, yeah for sure.
And i do believe you can be born smarter. Breaking that down into one race or another isn't what i mean to say but i do believe if you marry smart, you will produce a smarter child. I think genetics play a big part. This only becomes controversial when you include black vs white, it's never controversial when it's asian vs white (well not it's becoming controversial after that harvard shit)
That's my take.
Post by: BisMarckie on June 29, 2018, 09:38:29 PM
Jordan Peterson truly has some groundbreaking ideas :rejoice
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2018, 09:38:36 PM
Yeah, i do think masculinity is under a bit of an attack. I see it, i've lived it. I've lived in a very progressive town, it was brutal.
oh no I'm having an actual giggle fit over this I'm so sorry
Post by: Tasty on June 29, 2018, 09:40:58 PM
Ugh who the fuck wants to live into their 80s anyway
I kinda want to read Winds of Winter
You think GRRM is lasting to his 80s breh? :doge
Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 09:41:09 PM
What parts of masculinity specifically do you think are being attacked and why do you feel that's a negative? Are there parts being attacked that you think are positives?Of course there's positives. Fat bastards in position of power shouldn't be able to jerk off in a bush in front of some woman because he can't stick his dick in her.
Genetics play a part in determining intelligence? Stop the fucking presses.But this has been controversial :yeshrug
Jordan Peterson truly has some groundbreaking ideas :rejoice
Post by: Tasty on June 29, 2018, 09:42:12 PM
Yeah, i do think masculinity is under a bit of an attack. I see it, i've lived it. I've lived in a very progressive town, it was brutal.
If read in an over the top movie trailer voice, this could easily be the opening gag to a very stupid romantic-comedy movie about a modern day neanderthal who just can't quite seem to fit it..
Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 09:46:59 PM
Of course not, jesus. 4chan translated into reality? Come on man
I've lived in both and nope. Dumb internet battles in general, be they very woke tumblr or pissbaby 4chan almost never translate into real life like that
Post by: Tasty on June 29, 2018, 09:47:02 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/3NfHcI9.jpg)
I do think masculinity is under a bit of an attack.
I see it.
I've lived it.
I've lived in a very "progressive" town...
It was brutal.
COMING SOON
I do think masculinity is under a bit of an attack.
I see it.
I've lived it.
I've lived in a very "progressive" town...
It was brutal.
COMING SOON
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2018, 09:48:49 PM
Yeah, i do think masculinity is under a bit of an attack. I see it, i've lived it. I've lived in a very progressive town, it was brutal.
If read in an over the top movie trailer voice, this could easily be the opening gag to a very stupid romantic-comedy movie about a modern day neanderthal who just can't quite seem to fit it..
I imagine Assimilate saying that as a grizzled old man, drinking whiskey at the VFW and holding some younger guys rapt with stories of the Cuck Offensive in the college intellectual War.
"We'd dig trenches. The days were okay, but it was night time they came for you. Cover of darkness. Wait for hours, total silence, and when you finally let yourself hope that it won't happen tonight, suddenly there they were. Saw my best friend get called problematic, couldn't look away. They ambushed me on patrol and told me their pronouns, but my boys rushed me back to a MASH unit in time. I was one of the lucky ones."
Post by: benjipwns on June 29, 2018, 09:49:01 PM
Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 09:49:11 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/3NfHcI9.jpg)
I do think masculinity is under a bit of an attack.
I see it.
I've lived it.
I've lived in a very "progressive" town...
It was brutal.
COMING SOON
:lol :gun
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 29, 2018, 09:49:24 PM
I see it, i've lived it. I've lived in a very progressive town, it was brutal.
NEWSFEED PLS
Post by: BisMarckie on June 29, 2018, 09:55:39 PM
But this has been controversial :yeshrug
There are myriads of studies that show a strong correlation. The only part that is controversial is to which extent genetics determine intelligence.
However any correlations with ethnicity or gender have been clearly debunked.
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2018, 09:56:07 PM
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 29, 2018, 09:56:46 PM
Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 09:57:00 PM
Good luck. That's his go to move, half answering half of your question then changing the subject and saying you're upset about it/calling you autistic.
Oh I know, just want to see if he can be a big boy for once.
There's not much else to answer? I don't go picking fights with people over this IRL no matter how bad the U.S is getting. I try to avoid it even though i see it every time i'm out.
I just wonder what's going to happen when there's more generations of guys than women unemployed or underemployed in the U.S. Guys usually never have a problem taking care of a woman financially, nor is it a stigma, it's definitely a stigma the other way around and guys usually can't handle it very well. Not to mention for the most part women HATE taking care of a man financially.
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2018, 09:59:48 PM
you forgot marines
ah shit, the bareknuckled yin to the professors' heretical yang
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 29, 2018, 10:00:47 PM
college intellectual
Jordan Peterson
cuck
cucked
See if you can guess which ones these are!
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2018, 10:03:20 PM
man gtfo, IQ And The Wealth Of Nations* pegs Thailand as a low-IQ country, and the children of Thai immigrants in the US have higher average academic benchmarks than native born white Americans. Shit's all over the place.
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*Which I am NOT endorsing good lord, just using it as an example of the state of this branch of "research"
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Post by: benjipwns on June 29, 2018, 10:03:47 PM
I don't go picking fights with people over this IRL no matter how bad the U.S is getting. I try to avoid it even though i see it every time i'm out.this is why you just stay in your desiccated castle rather than trying to survive on the streets with masculinity under assault
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2018, 10:06:17 PM
Post by: Assimilate on June 29, 2018, 10:07:00 PM
Ah well, not everybody can be etiolate, or the all time WOAT of low effort shitposting Methodis.
I don't have the stamina like he did. I"m sorry to disappoint you :goldberg
i'm going to bed. World Cup tomorrow :hyper
Post by: Tasty on June 29, 2018, 10:08:40 PM
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 29, 2018, 10:09:38 PM
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2018, 10:10:06 PM
Post by: agrajag on June 29, 2018, 10:10:26 PM
you think jp would admit to blanking on "dilapidated" or would he insist that he meant a castle that had lost all its moisture?
He would probably tell you how well-moisturized castles are essential in repelling chaos dragons.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 29, 2018, 10:13:38 PM
Post by: thisismyusername on June 29, 2018, 10:19:20 PM
his initial stance was straight up red meat garbaggio: THINK OF THE COLLEGE AGE MALE CHILDREN!!!Considering there's less males going and graduating from Universities now while at the same time being dealt "toxic masculinity" bullshit? Don't you think just maybe it can be a talking point to be considered?
Maybe I'd go to school if it didn't cost me my fucking entire life to pay off given how stagant wages are. Got nothing to do with "toxic masculinity," but "try to keep your head above fucking water."
Post by: team filler on June 29, 2018, 10:20:38 PM
Post by: benjipwns on June 29, 2018, 10:29:13 PM
i for one await the day when our bene gesserit social engineering over-zes build the last testosterone-fueled cryptocurrency farm outside the gates of the temple of st. sarkeesian :bow2unfortunately the gigantic temple's gravity well makes it an obvious target for the gamergate space corporations moon rocks
Post by: thisismyusername on June 29, 2018, 10:31:51 PM
"You watch Marvel movies HAHAHAHAHA"
-63.21% of all Assimilate posts
"Matrix Revolutions is secretly awesome guys!"
-36.79% of all Assimilate posts
If there was a way to Newsfeed multiple lines, this would be it.
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 29, 2018, 10:52:20 PM
but clearly based on his lack of intellectual curiosity in general, the guy doesn't have it in him to radicalize himself to Peterson like the etoilet's that truly find self-worth in finding those perceived intellectual arguments that reinforce their biases.remember how etiolate would actually try to digest the information he was consuming and mould it into something singular and coherent -however unevenly or half-heartedly? You could tell he legit cared because he would weigh the claims presented to him by the purveyors of the internet manosphere and deliberate which ones to assent to and which to discard. It’s just, what he cared about was being a righteous contrarian and martyr for the cause against all those fifth columnist radicals who dont have the common sense to see how infected they all are.
It’s clear that assimilate isn’t playing the same game given that he regurgitates whatever party line bullet point is being talked about this news cycle. that he also indulges in the personality cult pomp and splendor (but it’s really only for the lulz, you autists) indicates he’s really only in it for the chicanery and spectacle.
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2018, 10:56:02 PM
the only comeback to that is to actually read the book, which would be a much bigger L for him than me
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2018, 11:05:23 PM
Post by: Cryo on June 30, 2018, 03:53:19 AM
Post by: curly on June 30, 2018, 07:30:07 AM
Post by: Assimilate on June 30, 2018, 09:05:12 AM
I had to come back to thisI don't see the bold as 'bigoted'. I honestly don't think it's going to be a net benefited to society to strip men of their masculinity. Believe it's some alt-right talking point all you want, but i actually see it happening and it's not going to result in positive outcomes like you think it will.
And yeah some people are born smarter than others. This is just reality dude. I know I wasn't born to be solving string theory. It's better off admitting this now and moving on then pretending otherwise.
Who said anything about stripping men of their masculinity? Unless you consider masculinity to be making more money than women for working the same job and being able to harass them without being condemned. Which basically means masculinity is to be babied. Don't think that's very masculine to be honest. There being some invisible war on masculinity is an alt-right talking point, yes.
Some people are born smarter than others is very different than what you posted, and I quote: "do i believe there could be a genetic difference between races in intelligence? -yes" you specified races. There's no science to back this up and it's essentially a racist view. It's also an alt-right talking point. Are you dense? Or do you just not want to associate yourself with trumpkins even though you pretty much agree with their views?
Go ahead, Assy. Continue.
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Unless you consider masculinity to be making more money than women for working the same job
Can you show me where this is true? Because my understanding, or what i have read, i could be wrong, is that men make more money than woman on average, but it never took into account the type of job, education, etc.
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Gap figures are calculated by taking the annual median earnings of full-time working women and dividing them by the median earnings of full-time working men
I don't blame you for not understanding it, it's easy to just listen to the narrative and believe it. Who has time to constantly look this shit up besides Nola since he's habitually unemployed, but yeah it's bullshit dude lol. Complete and utter bullshit.
I'm sure discrepancies happen but it's not what you've been lead to believe. Unless of course you think Monique deserves to get paid the same as Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle lol.
Post by: Assimilate on June 30, 2018, 09:11:17 AM
assimilare let us know if you need some new sources for talking points so you don’t have to pretend you’re boredHere's a source
https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=wL1F22UAAAAJ&hl=en
Peterson is one of the top publishing psychology professors in Canada and has been cited thousands of times over :rofl
So much for him being a pseudoscientist eh? :lol
Post by: Assimilate on June 30, 2018, 09:42:22 AM
The gender pay gap is a fun one to Google; the data to me still obviously suggests there is a problem, and anyone dismissing the idea isn't coming close to proving anything. There's literally a Forbes article where they just say "but men work more hours than women, so a study of full time employees COULD be for women working 35 hours and men 40."...uhhh.. you think maybe just find the number? lolUm, a lot. Most of the girls i knew, besides a select few took jobs like teaching, social work, daycare, clerical work, and part time jobs after graduating college.
What to me seems convincing is the fact that even with the exact same education level, women entering the workforce make less money. This includes college grads and higher education; is it possible that job choice is what is doing it? Really? Women with a college degree take jobs that pay on average 25% less? What jobs are these?
Also, I worked for a Fortune 50 where it was proven by the government the women were systematically underpaid in the early 2000s. A company of 160,000 employees. Just a small case of that surely!
Could the stats be exagerated? Sure; that does not remotely prove the gender pay gap false though.
There were a few girls, the overachieving types that went on to be accountants and lawyers, but even they by the time they reached late to 20s early 30s slowed down considerably and no longer wanted to be career seeking females. A few of them dropped out of the workforce completely after getting married, these were really smart females. Of course this is anecdotal.
There's been various outlets that have tried to do better with the data, and after accounting for age, education, job field, etc there was still a gap, but was less than 5 cents on the dollar.
Post by: kingv on June 30, 2018, 10:52:10 AM
The gender pay gap is a fun one to Google; the data to me still obviously suggests there is a problem, and anyone dismissing the idea isn't coming close to proving anything. There's literally a Forbes article where they just say "but men work more hours than women, so a study of full time employees COULD be for women working 35 hours and men 40."...uhhh.. you think maybe just find the number? lol
What to me seems convincing is the fact that even with the exact same education level, women entering the workforce make less money. This includes college grads and higher education; is it possible that job choice is what is doing it? Really? Women with a college degree take jobs that pay on average 25% less? What jobs are these?
Also, I worked for a Fortune 50 where it was proven by the government the women were systematically underpaid in the early 2000s. A company of 160,000 employees. Just a small case of that surely!
Could the stats be exagerated? Sure; that does not remotely prove the gender pay gap false though.
At most big companies, at least, the pay policies are very tight, and for an entry level position you are almost definitely going to make the same amount of money as another entry leve person on the same team/job description.
It makes me think that any discrepancy at time of first real job almost has to be driven by what job you choose. I still think there is probably a difference, but think it mostly arises from things happening later.
As for the IQ-race connection, arguing it is kind of a fools gambit either way. There is not widespread agreement on what are the genetic factors that determine a “race” or what IQ tests actually measure. That sort of makes it difficult to even describe the bounds for which that argument even exists.
Post by: Assimilate on June 30, 2018, 11:36:43 AM
So where does it come from? Is it:
1. liberals in hollywood and new york that have these cozy high paying media jobs and they think the rest of the female population can get these jobs instead of the normal 9-5 brutal grinds inside of an office?
2. is this manipulation by elites to trick more people into working crazy hours for stagnant wages? "hey girl you don't need to live a balanced life,or be a mom, you should work work work work"
There's an episode in Handmaid's tale where a woman literally virtue signals that she works so much she doesn't have time for anything else. Reminded me of that superbowl car commercial from a few years ago where the guy championed being an "american" and working endless hours so he can buy a nice house and a really nice car.
It seems like a trick to me.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 30, 2018, 12:37:42 PM
Post by: Tasty on June 30, 2018, 12:52:06 PM
Post by: Assimilate on June 30, 2018, 01:15:06 PM
You fuckers are nuts
:trumps
Post by: Assimilate on June 30, 2018, 01:41:53 PM
Assy comically misses the point of the income inequality debate and instead uses it as a way to whine about females, who could have seen that coming?You know i could have just ripped you for being an autistic moron that easily bites off the political bullshit that you fall for, but i didn't. I attempted to genuinely converse with you about your misconception.
Go figure. Last time i do that you fucking unibrow fuck.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 30, 2018, 01:56:34 PM
is female a derogatory word now? what was i supposed to call them? zirs?
You fuckers are nuts
Womyn
Post by: Assimilate on June 30, 2018, 01:57:51 PM
Psychological projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against their own unconscious impulses or qualities (both positive and negative) by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others.[1] For example, a person who is habitually intolerant may constantly accuse other people of being intolerant. It incorporates blame shifting.You're a psychology major now or you just a google keyboard warrior like Nola and the rest of the dimwits?
You guys aren't even that great at it considering how you all went ape shit and had a field day over that shitty NY times piece and the part on enforced monogamy 'derp peterson wants to inferior incels to be given femals yall, derpy derp i'm autistic'
https://youtu.be/v6H2HmKDbZA?t=1h6m47s
Stay getting annihilated by Daddy Peterson at 1:06:46
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 30, 2018, 02:07:36 PM
Post by: Assimilate on June 30, 2018, 02:12:45 PM
Having a giggle = triggered and going apeshitHaving a giggle... you bitches went on tirade in that other thread. giggling over something you didn't even understand :lol
Post by: agrajag on June 30, 2018, 02:17:11 PM
Post by: Assimilate on June 30, 2018, 02:50:58 PM
Goddamn what a dumb motherfuckerKeep getting wrecked loser
:tauntaun
Daddy P slapping you with those Ls
Post by: agrajag on June 30, 2018, 03:09:08 PM
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 30, 2018, 03:25:17 PM
is female a derogatory word now? what was i supposed to call them? zirs?
You fuckers are nuts
:trumps
i hope this won't strain your imagination or your sense of vocabulary but: women
Post by: Mandark on June 30, 2018, 03:45:47 PM
Post by: Assimilate on June 30, 2018, 03:58:59 PM
You've been getting a train run on you the entire thread.:crowdlaff
that's like the equivalent of being at the park and a group of autisms calling you poopy pants
:drudge assimilate is never going to read jp's dumb book cause even he thinks jp's bedtime story theories are dumb :drudgewhich book? Maps of Meaning?
Post by: Mandark on June 30, 2018, 04:01:08 PM
you can start with this
Post by: Assimilate on June 30, 2018, 04:02:48 PM
https://www.academia.edu/20852194/RELIGION_SOVEREIGNTY_NATURAL_RIGHTS_AND_THE_CONSTITUENT_ELEMENTS_OF_EXPERIENCEBro, i work. I'll do something that's on audiobook... either maps of meaning or 12 steps.
you can start with this
Post by: Mandark on June 30, 2018, 04:08:36 PM
you're not gonna read it cause you think telling people how to live based on the brothers grimm is silly, and you're right
Post by: agrajag on June 30, 2018, 04:12:37 PM
You've been getting a train run on you the entire thread.:crowdlaff
that's like the equivalent of being at the park and a group of autisms calling you poopy pants:drudge assimilate is never going to read jp's dumb book cause even he thinks jp's bedtime story theories are dumb :drudgewhich book? Maps of Meaning?
Bro, you shouldn't talk. Your idea of "owning" someone consists of calling everyone autistic and making up kindergarten level nicknames for people.
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 30, 2018, 04:18:43 PM
You've been getting a train run on you the entire thread. Maybe you need to sign up for some therapy sess's from Daddy P for the emotional trauma it must be causing you
Assy McGee has long since shown that he is perfectly fine with this because it at least provides that one thing he craves: attention.
Post by: team filler on June 30, 2018, 04:33:40 PM
Post by: Assimilate on June 30, 2018, 04:35:27 PM
My idea of owning someone is pointing out what they thought they had Daddy P on was nothing more than them being braindead and not even understanding what the guy was saying.You've been getting a train run on you the entire thread.:crowdlaff
that's like the equivalent of being at the park and a group of autisms calling you poopy pants:drudge assimilate is never going to read jp's dumb book cause even he thinks jp's bedtime story theories are dumb :drudgewhich book? Maps of Meaning?
Bro, you shouldn't talk. Your idea of "owning" someone consists of calling everyone *incoherently screeching* and making up kindergarten level nicknames for people.
I was also asked my thoughts on something that isn't even fucking true. And where did the kid get it from? Libby media. Because you know, if the media says it's true, it must be true.
But then the circle jerk will happen and we'll get "har har look at this idiot he's being triggered". It's becoming predictable.
:piss :doge :piss2:birb
Post by: Mandark on June 30, 2018, 04:36:44 PM
Post by: agrajag on June 30, 2018, 04:38:00 PM
Predictable coming from someone whose posts mostly consist of "autists, libtards, triggered, beak, unibrow, *MAAAARVEL* (autistic screeching intensifies)"
:nope
J Pet is a charlatan huckster and you don't really care about him.
Post by: Assimilate on June 30, 2018, 04:39:57 PM
Who's the kid?Read the last page. I attempted to have an honest conversation since Exodus since kept pestering me but after he got exposed he backtracked to "oh this idiot didn't get the point"
Predictable coming from someone whose posts mostly consist of "autists, libtards, triggered, beak, unibrow"
:nope
J Pet is a charlatan huckster and you don't really care about him.
come on man.
Post by: agrajag on June 30, 2018, 04:47:26 PM
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 30, 2018, 04:52:54 PM
Post by: team filler on June 30, 2018, 04:56:23 PM
Damn, some serious unibrowbeating going on in here.:heh :mynicca
Post by: Assimilate on June 30, 2018, 05:00:45 PM
that's a curious interpretation of events :lolThis is what he honestly believed
Unless you consider masculinity to be making more money than women for working the same jobI responded
Go ahead, Assy. Continue.
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Can you show me where this is true? Because my understanding, or what i have read, i could be wrong, is that men make more money than woman on average, but it never took into account the type of job, education, etc.riotous came back with the proper response to my post:QuoteGap figures are calculated by taking the annual median earnings of full-time working women and dividing them by the median earnings of full-time working men
I don't blame you for not understanding it, it's easy to just listen to the narrative and believe it. Who has time to constantly look this shit up besides Nola since he's habitually unemployed, but yeah it's bullshit dude lol. Complete and utter bullshit.
I'm sure discrepancies happen but it's not what you've been lead to believe. Unless of course you think Monique deserves to get paid the same as Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle lol.
The gender pay gap is a fun one to Google; the data to me still obviously suggests there is a problem, and anyone dismissing the idea isn't coming close to proving anything. There's literally a Forbes article where they just say "but men work more hours than women, so a study of full time employees COULD be for women working 35 hours and men 40."...uhhh.. you think maybe just find the number? lol
What to me seems convincing is the fact that even with the exact same education level, women entering the workforce make less money. This includes college grads and higher education; is it possible that job choice is what is doing it? Really? Women with a college degree take jobs that pay on average 25% less? What jobs are these?
Also, I worked for a Fortune 50 where it was proven by the government the women were systematically underpaid in the early 2000s. A company of 160,000 employees. Just a small case of that surely!
Could the stats be exagerated? Sure; that does not remotely prove the gender pay gap false though.
Then Browboy decides to chime in with
Assy comically misses the point of the income inequality debate and instead uses it as a way to whine about females, who could have seen that coming?In no subsequent post of mine did i whine about females, irr i mean women. He was simply triggered i exposed his autisty tendencies to believe everything he consumes from mainstream liberal media. He got mad and resorted to the same old same old.
Post by: Mandark on June 30, 2018, 05:01:40 PM
stop running away from your own daddy
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on June 30, 2018, 05:04:47 PM
https://www.academia.edu/20852194/RELIGION_SOVEREIGNTY_NATURAL_RIGHTS_AND_THE_CONSTITUENT_ELEMENTS_OF_EXPERIENCEBro, i work. I'll do something that's on audiobook... either maps of meaning or 12 steps.
you can start with this
lol of course you can't fucking read lmao
Post by: Tasty on June 30, 2018, 05:07:39 PM
You've been getting a train run on you the entire thread.:crowdlaff
that's like the equivalent of being at the park and a group of autisms calling you poopy pants
Yeah but in this instance you're legitimately full of shit.
Post by: team filler on June 30, 2018, 05:25:05 PM
Post by: agrajag on June 30, 2018, 05:26:08 PM
the beak, the dog, the brow and the coward :lol aka the shitbin gang :lol :lol
don't forget the kid and the boy genius
Post by: team filler on June 30, 2018, 05:28:02 PM
Post by: team filler on June 30, 2018, 05:32:42 PM
Post by: Assimilate on June 30, 2018, 05:46:14 PM
Beaks, don't even try. Considering what you tried to do a few pages back
lol of course you can't fucking read lmao
:foodcourt
If you thought I was going to take that post seriously then you're even dumber than I thought. Like lol who gives a shit about Monique?Some of you are on the spectrum and can't even get the help you deserve. Stupid ass Obama.
Post by: agrajag on June 30, 2018, 05:49:14 PM
benji is the boy genius, but who is the kid?
I think the kid is multiple people, depending on who assy tries to condescend, but benji was also the kid several times
Post by: Mandark on June 30, 2018, 05:53:28 PM
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Post by: Rufus on June 30, 2018, 06:03:40 PM
Bro, I work, I don't have 20 minutes to read, only 16 hours a day to shitpost on message boardsAnd watch hour-long videos. Which he definitely has.
Post by: thisismyusername on June 30, 2018, 07:03:26 PM
https://www.academia.edu/20852194/RELIGION_SOVEREIGNTY_NATURAL_RIGHTS_AND_THE_CONSTITUENT_ELEMENTS_OF_EXPERIENCEBro, i work. I'll do something that's on audiobook... either maps of meaning or 12 steps.
you can start with this
46 pages. (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/35445963-religion-sovereignty-natural-rights-and-the-constituent-elements-of-e)
Christ, you're lazy. You can do that within an hour.
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 30, 2018, 07:28:27 PM
the beak, the dog, the brow and the coward :lol aka the shitbin gang :lol :lol
When was the last time you made a post on this forum that took you more than two seconds to type out?
Post by: Assimilate on June 30, 2018, 07:30:33 PM
:piss :doge :piss2
Post by: Mandark on June 30, 2018, 07:30:38 PM
the beak, the dog, the brow and the coward :lol aka the shitbin gang :lol :lol
When was the last time you made a post on this forum that took you more than two seconds to type out?
Joke's on you, that post took him 15 minutes.
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 30, 2018, 07:39:47 PM
dogmod mad :lol
:piss :doge :piss2
Gonna take more effort than this, kid. :heh
Post by: Let's Cyber on June 30, 2018, 07:41:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PagNM_oxssE
It's the Assy Holy Trinity of stupid horsefuckers with a special guest appearance by some other guy. I didn't watch the video. I would recommend no one else watch it either. 8)
Edit: not the Evergreen State college guy. They look kind of similar.
Post by: Assimilate on June 30, 2018, 07:41:41 PM
dogmod mad :lol
:piss :doge :piss2
Gonna take more effort than this, kid. :heh
:jawalrus
tempting me just to censor me.
Post by: team filler on June 30, 2018, 07:57:03 PM
::)the beak, the dog, the brow and the coward :lol aka the shitbin gang :lol :lol
When was the last time you made a post on this forum that took you more than two seconds to type out?
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Hi folks. As NeoGAF gets back to a more healthy, grounded, rational place, I've been asked by several folks about their account status. We all know a big clusterfuck happened last October/November, but there's a lot that went down actively against the interests of the site and the community that the present sysadmins and I did not know about. Our old platform had terrible system logging and there was one shortfall in particular that ended up causing problems: permanent bans were on an unsortable list that couldn't be checked over expediently to see if something was amiss. We relied on manual ban recording by mods and admins and general communication, and I vetted those aspects and the non-broken temporary ban list in the admin panel, and referred to the very inefficient raw moderation/system logs when something seemed fishy.
Mods and admins are human. I select NeoGAF mods carefully, but sometimes they don't turn out to be good fits when they take on the role. And sometimes, it turns out, one will work in secret and lie to everyone and sabotage the forum in various ways if the opportunity presents and they get emotionally tilted. That happened.
In 2016 US election primaries season, it appears some bias entered the picture on the moderation team regarding pro-Hillary sentiment and anti-Bernie sentiment that ended up with many of our reasonable Bernie supporters banned under suspicious justification. A lot of this happened in the "PoliGAF" subcommunity thread, however, which was very active but not something I kept enough tabs on since it was more like a chat room at times. Throughout the 2016 election season, Republican/conservative leaning voices were shouted out and baited by the community itself and some members of the mod team into getting banned, in part because of the lead-up where the forum was turning bizarrely aggressive with its Hillary support after incubating in that PoliGAF community thread. NeoGAF became one of the top 5 referring urls in the world to HIllary's campaign website according to Vice News. This was...weird.
Then the election happened and Trump won. One of my ex-admins, bishoptl, got angry about election-related matters and actively sabotaged the forum. He logged his bans that were justifiable within the site rules, and generally gave people appropriate ban explanation messages in those cases. However, he also banned several hundred more people in quick succession, out of anger, for *not being angry enough* about the election. He didn't log these bans administratively, he generally told the users something along the lines of "fuck off" in the user-facing message, and he lied to me at every turn when I was mobilizing to find out what the hell was going on with Off-Topic that seemed to be depriving it of all maturity, reason, sense, and moderate opinion suddenly. Finally I saw something suspicious enough play out that I checked the system logs, and everything revealed itself plainly. We were descending into madness because all the sane people were being stealth banned en masse by bish. I reviewed approximately 100 of the stealth bans one by one and reversed ~90% of them per the actual rules governing the site. But discourse here was already falling apart and our old platform sucked for communicating with users during mod actions, so people started account suiciding after I reversed the bans -- rightfully pissed off about the unjust nature of them. It was all a mess and I focused on trying to be a voice of reason on GAF itself and get the mod team onto a more neutral page going forward instead of going through the remainder of the bish bans.
Anyway, fast forward to last October's big drama. Angry mobs aren't rational actors. The people tasked with calming down angry mobs in a non-violent, just manner....well, sometimes they spray the crowd with rubber bullets and concussion grenades instead. Recently it's come to light that at least one of our ex-moderators mass stealth banned reasonable voices during the October drama who were saying nothing inappropriate and just arguing for a bit of calm. This changed my perception of events, too; it sank my heart to see my community apparently so willing to burn this place to the ground and say horrible, untrue things. But...a lot of the reasonable people were being actively silenced by rogue moderation. This came as quite a shock, but made sense immediately when I found out who it was. It also explained why about 75% of my PMs were supportive and yet it seemed like everyone on the forum itself was screaming for death and destruction. This was not a coincidence.
After that, too, we had an overstressed skeleton crew here and I knew there had been bad actors in the mix during everything, since private conversations under NDA had been leaked and so forth, so I brought in pro contractors for a while to moderate the forum while we regrouped and got some much needed rest. They weren't, shall we say, big on nuance or critical thinking. They were more following a simple flowchart and using a sledgehammer, so a lot of people got permed for relatively benign things and I don't know that it actually helped matters any in retrospect.
Way too many people lost their accounts unjustly. I apologize for my part in it. It was a difficult time and we didn't have great tools on the old-ass platform to detect foul play, and besides that the political circus in the United States introduced significant bias into the site moderation here.
I've pulled the rest of bishtoptl's post-election permanent bans, and the permanent bans performed by the ex-mod who stealth banned over 100 regulars simply for not participating in the witch hunt going on last October (sigh, what a wretched way to be), as well as a big chunk of the October/November permanent bans site-wide that were not performed up to our typical standards. I will review each ban personally, one by one, and reverse them as appropriate.
If you or someone you know has been banned unjustly, especially if it was around the time of the October 2017 drama or the post-election drama around Trump/Hillary time, or any other politically charged time like that, care will be taken to ensure fairness to you, so feel free to disclose it to me. I have a list of several hundred accounts from the known saboteur mods I will begin reviewing now and update with the results in here. If you would like your account reviewed and don't currently have NeoGAF posting access, email support@neogaf.com with Ban Review Request in the title and your account name in the body and I will add it to my list. Or tweet @NeoGAF with the same info.
If you ended up re-registering already and have a second account in good standing here that replaced your banned account, no worries, we're not going to punish for punishment's sake. Just mention it in this thread or PM me if you'd prefer discretion, note what your old account name was and anything you'd like to note about the circumstances, and I'll review your situation personally. In many cases I will be able to restore your old account and merge it with your new account so that you retain everything new and get your old account and post history reintegrated, too.
If you foamed at the mouth and said some stuff in all caps that wasn't very pleasant around drama-central, well, maybe PM me with some words about it. Time has passed and it was an intense situation where a lot of people were behaving irrationally. Some folks I've know on here for a long time participated in unfortunate, hurtful behavior. I'll tackle all that case by case too and I will hear everyone out. No guarantees in those cases, 'course.
We had at least a couple aggressively malicious actors internally that drastically changed outcomes at key moments in NeoGAF's recent history. Hundreds of bad bans happened directly against the policies and interests of the site and community. Things are chill here again and operating as intended and people are starting to want their accounts back. Time to undo some damage. Sorry for the mess, but let's get housekeeping.
Hi folks. As NeoGAF gets back to a more healthy, grounded, rational place, I've been asked by several folks about their account status. We all know a big clusterfuck happened last October/November, but there's a lot that went down actively against the interests of the site and the community that the present sysadmins and I did not know about. Our old platform had terrible system logging and there was one shortfall in particular that ended up causing problems: permanent bans were on an unsortable list that couldn't be checked over expediently to see if something was amiss. We relied on manual ban recording by mods and admins and general communication, and I vetted those aspects and the non-broken temporary ban list in the admin panel, and referred to the very inefficient raw moderation/system logs when something seemed fishy.
Mods and admins are human. I select NeoGAF mods carefully, but sometimes they don't turn out to be good fits when they take on the role. And sometimes, it turns out, one will work in secret and lie to everyone and sabotage the forum in various ways if the opportunity presents and they get emotionally tilted. That happened.
In 2016 US election primaries season, it appears some bias entered the picture on the moderation team regarding pro-Hillary sentiment and anti-Bernie sentiment that ended up with many of our reasonable Bernie supporters banned under suspicious justification. A lot of this happened in the "PoliGAF" subcommunity thread, however, which was very active but not something I kept enough tabs on since it was more like a chat room at times. Throughout the 2016 election season, Republican/conservative leaning voices were shouted out and baited by the community itself and some members of the mod team into getting banned, in part because of the lead-up where the forum was turning bizarrely aggressive with its Hillary support after incubating in that PoliGAF community thread. NeoGAF became one of the top 5 referring urls in the world to HIllary's campaign website according to Vice News. This was...weird.
Then the election happened and Trump won. One of my ex-admins, bishoptl, got angry about election-related matters and actively sabotaged the forum. He logged his bans that were justifiable within the site rules, and generally gave people appropriate ban explanation messages in those cases. However, he also banned several hundred more people in quick succession, out of anger, for *not being angry enough* about the election. He didn't log these bans administratively, he generally told the users something along the lines of "fuck off" in the user-facing message, and he lied to me at every turn when I was mobilizing to find out what the hell was going on with Off-Topic that seemed to be depriving it of all maturity, reason, sense, and moderate opinion suddenly. Finally I saw something suspicious enough play out that I checked the system logs, and everything revealed itself plainly. We were descending into madness because all the sane people were being stealth banned en masse by bish. I reviewed approximately 100 of the stealth bans one by one and reversed ~90% of them per the actual rules governing the site. But discourse here was already falling apart and our old platform sucked for communicating with users during mod actions, so people started account suiciding after I reversed the bans -- rightfully pissed off about the unjust nature of them. It was all a mess and I focused on trying to be a voice of reason on GAF itself and get the mod team onto a more neutral page going forward instead of going through the remainder of the bish bans.
Anyway, fast forward to last October's big drama. Angry mobs aren't rational actors. The people tasked with calming down angry mobs in a non-violent, just manner....well, sometimes they spray the crowd with rubber bullets and concussion grenades instead. Recently it's come to light that at least one of our ex-moderators mass stealth banned reasonable voices during the October drama who were saying nothing inappropriate and just arguing for a bit of calm. This changed my perception of events, too; it sank my heart to see my community apparently so willing to burn this place to the ground and say horrible, untrue things. But...a lot of the reasonable people were being actively silenced by rogue moderation. This came as quite a shock, but made sense immediately when I found out who it was. It also explained why about 75% of my PMs were supportive and yet it seemed like everyone on the forum itself was screaming for death and destruction. This was not a coincidence.
After that, too, we had an overstressed skeleton crew here and I knew there had been bad actors in the mix during everything, since private conversations under NDA had been leaked and so forth, so I brought in pro contractors for a while to moderate the forum while we regrouped and got some much needed rest. They weren't, shall we say, big on nuance or critical thinking. They were more following a simple flowchart and using a sledgehammer, so a lot of people got permed for relatively benign things and I don't know that it actually helped matters any in retrospect.
Way too many people lost their accounts unjustly. I apologize for my part in it. It was a difficult time and we didn't have great tools on the old-ass platform to detect foul play, and besides that the political circus in the United States introduced significant bias into the site moderation here.
I've pulled the rest of bishtoptl's post-election permanent bans, and the permanent bans performed by the ex-mod who stealth banned over 100 regulars simply for not participating in the witch hunt going on last October (sigh, what a wretched way to be), as well as a big chunk of the October/November permanent bans site-wide that were not performed up to our typical standards. I will review each ban personally, one by one, and reverse them as appropriate.
If you or someone you know has been banned unjustly, especially if it was around the time of the October 2017 drama or the post-election drama around Trump/Hillary time, or any other politically charged time like that, care will be taken to ensure fairness to you, so feel free to disclose it to me. I have a list of several hundred accounts from the known saboteur mods I will begin reviewing now and update with the results in here. If you would like your account reviewed and don't currently have NeoGAF posting access, email support@neogaf.com with Ban Review Request in the title and your account name in the body and I will add it to my list. Or tweet @NeoGAF with the same info.
If you ended up re-registering already and have a second account in good standing here that replaced your banned account, no worries, we're not going to punish for punishment's sake. Just mention it in this thread or PM me if you'd prefer discretion, note what your old account name was and anything you'd like to note about the circumstances, and I'll review your situation personally. In many cases I will be able to restore your old account and merge it with your new account so that you retain everything new and get your old account and post history reintegrated, too.
If you foamed at the mouth and said some stuff in all caps that wasn't very pleasant around drama-central, well, maybe PM me with some words about it. Time has passed and it was an intense situation where a lot of people were behaving irrationally. Some folks I've know on here for a long time participated in unfortunate, hurtful behavior. I'll tackle all that case by case too and I will hear everyone out. No guarantees in those cases, 'course.
We had at least a couple aggressively malicious actors internally that drastically changed outcomes at key moments in NeoGAF's recent history. Hundreds of bad bans happened directly against the policies and interests of the site and community. Things are chill here again and operating as intended and people are starting to want their accounts back. Time to undo some damage. Sorry for the mess, but let's get housekeeping.
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Post by: agrajag on June 30, 2018, 07:57:38 PM
Post by: agrajag on June 30, 2018, 07:58:45 PM
Edit: not the Evergreen State college guy. They look kind of similar.
that's his brother
Post by: thisismyusername on June 30, 2018, 08:05:34 PM
Post by: agrajag on June 30, 2018, 08:12:37 PM
Are you going to read that 46 page book or not, Ass? Put Mandark in his place by putting up.
and don't just say you read it, I expect a full book report
Post by: thisismyusername on June 30, 2018, 08:15:39 PM
Post by: Tasty on June 30, 2018, 09:10:03 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 30, 2018, 09:39:05 PM
I mean fuck, etoilet wrote posts longer than that.
At least etoilet had convictions.
Post by: Tasty on June 30, 2018, 09:44:53 PM
I really couldn't stand etoilet at times tho. He was ok on some subjects but he was more like the 24 year old cousin who only goes to family events cause he still lives at home, and when you try to talk with him you realize he spends every hour on 4chan and Reddit.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 30, 2018, 10:35:41 PM
I mean fuck, etoilet wrote posts longer than that.
At least etoilet had convictions.
so did amir0x. well, conviction.
. . .
look, these are the cheap seats
Post by: Mandark on June 30, 2018, 10:50:48 PM
Looking back it feels like that was the Rosetta Stone for all the MRA/redpill/GG/Sad Puppies/intellectual dark web shit.
Post by: agrajag on June 30, 2018, 10:56:18 PM
I mean fuck, etoilet wrote posts longer than that.
At least etoilet had convictions.
so did amir0x. well, conviction.
. . .
look, these are the cheap seats
hopefully etoilet is also getting drenched in urine somewhere
Post by: TakingBackSunday on July 01, 2018, 12:02:28 AM
Hey Drinky you remember the Hollywood/etoilet theory that anti-Nintendo trolls were the spiritual heirs to various historical oppressors?
Looking back it feels like that was the Rosetta Stone for all the MRA/redpill/GG/Sad Puppies/intellectual dark web shit.
As a Nintendo fan who loves the anti-Nintendo trolling, what am I the heir to
Post by: Mandark on July 01, 2018, 12:11:33 AM
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 01, 2018, 12:20:40 AM
Hey Drinky you remember the Hollywood/etoilet theory that anti-Nintendo trolls were the spiritual heirs to various historical oppressors?
Looking back it feels like that was the Rosetta Stone for all the MRA/redpill/GG/Sad Puppies/intellectual dark web shit.
oh my god, i'd forgotten that. kinda distressing that etoilet hasn't changed!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 01, 2018, 12:21:53 AM
Post by: benjipwns on July 01, 2018, 12:30:02 AM
obviously you're a kid if you're also a boy, it's like jeez why do i have to explain thisbenji is the boy genius, but who is the kid?
I think the kid is multiple people, depending on who assy tries to condescend, but benji was also the kid several times
/boy genius
Post by: agrajag on July 01, 2018, 12:32:10 AM
obviously you're a kid if you're also a boy, it's like jeez why do i have to explain thisbenji is the boy genius, but who is the kid?
I think the kid is multiple people, depending on who assy tries to condescend, but benji was also the kid several times
/boy genius
all boys are kids, but not all kids are boys,
ask amir0x
Post by: benjipwns on July 01, 2018, 12:33:08 AM
on the other hand, i am getting a nostalgia boner for my days as the borgia pope of gafEvilore has declared a new era of Justice!
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/neogaf-ban-review-justice-project-off-topic-edition.1463407/
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We had at least a couple aggressively malicious actors internally that drastically changed outcomes at key moments in NeoGAF's recent history. Hundreds of bad bans happened directly against the policies and interests of the site and community. Things are chill here again and operating as intended and people are starting to want their accounts back. Time to undo some damage. Sorry for the mess, but let's get housekeeping.
Post by: Mandark on July 01, 2018, 12:33:45 AM
Hey Drinky you remember the Hollywood/etoilet theory that anti-Nintendo trolls were the spiritual heirs to various historical oppressors?
Looking back it feels like that was the Rosetta Stone for all the MRA/redpill/GG/Sad Puppies/intellectual dark web shit.
What the fuck
The argument was basically "Someone who trolls Nintendo fans now would have violently oppressed gay people 100 years ago, cause they're both forms of persecution."
I'm not even trying to be sassy by framing it like that. et and Hollywood (former poster here) were pretty direct and up front about making that connection, unless my memory's failing me in my dotage.
Post by: benjipwns on July 01, 2018, 12:35:06 AM
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Hoping for TheBore citizens to come back here. It would be humour heaven
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Same. The quality/hilarious posters went to the Bore (prior and after the mess):doge
Post by: Mandark on July 01, 2018, 12:35:31 AM
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45505.0
Post by: agrajag on July 01, 2018, 12:36:19 AM
QuoteHoping for TheBore citizens to come back here. It would be humour heavenQuoteSame. The quality/hilarious posters went to the Bore (prior and after the mess):doge
let's send Assimilate over there and call it a day
Post by: Assimilate on July 01, 2018, 12:37:31 AM
hey benjiThank you Mandark.
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45505.0
Boy Genius trying to pollute my daddy wank face thread with his bullshit.
You're the biggest Vagina i've seen in a long time.QuoteHoping for TheBore citizens to come back here. It would be humour heavenQuoteSame. The quality/hilarious posters went to the Bore (prior and after the mess):doge
let's send Assimilate over there and call it a day
Post by: Mandark on July 01, 2018, 12:38:02 AM
Post by: agrajag on July 01, 2018, 12:38:48 AM
Post by: benjipwns on July 01, 2018, 12:40:41 AM
hey benjiu just mad i got top of page six instead of your cowardly attacks on hardworking Assimilate :umad
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45505.0
Post by: benjipwns on July 01, 2018, 12:42:28 AM
ideally this thread becomes a dumping ground for whatever political/philosophical bullshit video an becomes long videos that are shit thread 2.0wait, that wasn't what this was supposed to be?
Post by: team filler on July 01, 2018, 12:44:00 AM
8)Hey Drinky you remember the Hollywood/etoilet theory that anti-Nintendo trolls were the spiritual heirs to various historical oppressors?
Looking back it feels like that was the Rosetta Stone for all the MRA/redpill/GG/Sad Puppies/intellectual dark web shit.
What the fuck
The argument was basically "Someone who trolls Nintendo fans now would have violently oppressed gay people 100 years ago, cause they're both forms of persecution."
I'm not even trying to be sassy by framing it like that. et and Hollywood (former poster here) were pretty direct and up front about making that connection, unless my memory's failing me in my dotage.
Post by: agrajag on July 01, 2018, 12:45:03 AM
ideally this thread becomes a dumping ground for whatever political/philosophical bullshit video an becomes long videos that are shit thread 2.0wait, that wasn't what this was supposed to be?
this thread was supposed to be assy spraying his diarrhea juice everywhere
Post by: thisismyusername on July 01, 2018, 12:49:16 AM
You're the biggest Vagina i've seen in a long time.
You still haven't read the book, despite all this free time to post on here with? :snob
Rumbler, ban Assimilate for a day for each post he posts until he comes back with a book report, please. TYIA</Kara>
Post by: TVC15 on July 01, 2018, 12:50:33 AM
Post by: Assimilate on July 01, 2018, 12:51:05 AM
:hehYou're the biggest Vagina i've seen in a long time.
You still haven't read the book, despite all this free time to post on here with? :snob
i went out for an entire night while you autistys are in here chewing Ls.
I'm still waiting on any of you to take down Daddy P. It ain't happening anytime soon is it?
Jesus, #banassimilate. It’s like someone hit etoilet in the head with a crowbar 20 times and now it’s performing for our amusement.#someonepaypalTVCmoneysohecanbuy12stepsbeforeheoffshimself
Post by: Mandark on July 01, 2018, 12:53:39 AM
I'm still waiting on any of you to take down Daddy P.
https://www.academia.edu/20852194/RELIGION_SOVEREIGNTY_NATURAL_RIGHTS_AND_THE_CONSTITUENT_ELEMENTS_OF_EXPERIENCE
Post by: agrajag on July 01, 2018, 12:56:44 AM
Post by: Assimilate on July 01, 2018, 12:58:09 AM
is there a way to leper assy so every word he posts only comes out as "daddy P"Stop being such a vagina, you vagina.
Post by: Assimilate on July 01, 2018, 01:24:47 PM
tricked yas.
Post by: agrajag on July 01, 2018, 01:25:55 PM
Post by: Assimilate on July 01, 2018, 01:27:00 PM
PussyNah, you're the Vagina of this place. It's been settled.
Post by: agrajag on July 01, 2018, 01:28:42 PM
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on July 01, 2018, 02:08:49 PM
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 01, 2018, 02:22:25 PM
Disappointing thread on all fronts.
Post by: TVC15 on July 01, 2018, 02:26:13 PM
https://youtu.be/I-h4A7bF8wQ
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 01, 2018, 02:27:19 PM
Post by: Assimilate on July 01, 2018, 02:50:30 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 01, 2018, 03:55:12 PM
Hanging out with some douchebag that was too much of an asshole even for Fox News to talk about there's no Democrat that's not on the "far left".
Just another typical "centrist" :neogaf
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 01, 2018, 05:08:34 PM
I only read half of the introduction but I almost choked laughing because of some bit in the introduction. He thought it would be a smart idea to wear a cape and crocodile leather boots to a maximum security prison. Then gets weirded out when the criminals start fucking with him.
The rest of the introduction seems to be about him being a closet christian.
Post by: Mandark on July 01, 2018, 05:12:22 PM
Quote from: JP
Thirty years ago, when I started writing Maps of Meaning, I was trying to solve a problem. That problem was the Cold War: Was it just a battle of ideologies and opinions? Was it two grand narratives, one communist, one capitalist, neither with any more reality than the other? That’s one argument. The other argument is that there’s something fundamental at stake here, deeper than opinion. I was trying to find out which of those two was true.
Imagine sitting down thinking "okay, it's time for me to solve the Cold War." Then cracking open a copy of Aesop's Fables.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 01, 2018, 05:18:09 PM
Click here to find out! *Imagine me linking to a pdf of his book here*
Post by: agrajag on July 01, 2018, 05:18:26 PM
Post by: TVC15 on July 01, 2018, 05:30:16 PM
But for real, fun time’s over, mods. Ban Assimilate. It’s time.
Post by: Assimilate on July 01, 2018, 05:57:44 PM
Post by: Mandark on July 01, 2018, 06:03:02 PM
Post by: BisMarckie on July 01, 2018, 06:03:59 PM
I am not making fun of the guy, I am making fun of people buying his drivel.
Post by: team filler on July 01, 2018, 06:04:26 PM
Post by: Assimilate on July 01, 2018, 06:05:29 PM
Imagine being one of those 35 members.what exactly upsets you about his 'drivel'?
I am not making fun of the guy, I am making fun of people buying his drivel.
no one seems to be able to honestly answer that question. when i claim it's because of his compelled speech crusade and people being sold on protesting him because of the trans community they say no but no one gives me any other reason
Post by: Mandark on July 01, 2018, 06:09:25 PM
you know it's not even worth reading
Post by: BisMarckie on July 01, 2018, 06:10:19 PM
what exactly upsets you about his 'drivel'?
Because he's selling a self-help book.that alone qualifies it as drivel :trash
He is not only doing that, but he is acting like he is some hero for free speech only to target his pseudo-intellectual shit at college aged idiots.
Again: :trash
edit: lol upset, I don't care enough to be upset. I just think he's a hack.
Post by: TVC15 on July 01, 2018, 06:14:18 PM
imagine being a keyboard warrior on a forum with 35 active members making fun of a guy that sold over a million copies of his books :kobeyuck
https://youtu.be/9AjkUyX0rVw
#USAforAfrica#banassimilate
Post by: Mandark on July 01, 2018, 06:19:31 PM
Post by: TVC15 on July 01, 2018, 06:21:54 PM
Post by: Assimilate on July 01, 2018, 06:24:41 PM
Considering the level of nihilism amongst young to middle aged people in the u.s i don't see the problem with his book. Unless he was selling you on "do this you'll make millions"....
Because he's selling a self-help book.that alone qualifies it as drivel :trash
He is not only doing that, but he is acting like he is some hero for free speech only to target his pseudo-intellectual shit at college aged idiots.
Nothing he says is pseudo-intellectual either, like where is the pseudo part if he's a clinical psychologist with thousands of citations and publications to his name? What specifically does he say that is pseudo?
More likely this is a term you use to discredit a guy you don't care about. It's like Ree claiming someone is a nazi. Same shit.
Post by: Mandark on July 01, 2018, 06:27:09 PM
i don't see the problem with his book
oh you read it?
Post by: TVC15 on July 01, 2018, 06:30:23 PM
Considering the level of nihilism amongst young to middle aged people in the u.s i don't see the problem with his book. Unless he was selling you on "do this you'll make millions"....
Because he's selling a self-help book.that alone qualifies it as drivel :trash
He is not only doing that, but he is acting like he is some hero for free speech only to target his pseudo-intellectual shit at college aged idiots.
Nothing he says is pseudo-intellectual either, like where is the pseudo part if he's a clinical psychologist with thousands of citations and publications to his name? What specifically does he say that is pseudo?
More likely this is a term you use to discredit a guy you don't care about. It's like Ree claiming someone is a nazi. Same shit.
https://youtu.be/1WGkIjjCw1g
Post by: Mandark on July 01, 2018, 06:33:30 PM
Post by: TVC15 on July 01, 2018, 06:38:22 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 01, 2018, 06:41:30 PM
I read an interview where he explains why he wrote that book:Quote from: JPThirty years ago, when I started writing Maps of Meaning, I was trying to solve a problem. That problem was the Cold War: Was it just a battle of ideologies and opinions? Was it two grand narratives, one communist, one capitalist, neither with any more reality than the other? That’s one argument. The other argument is that there’s something fundamental at stake here, deeper than opinion. I was trying to find out which of those two was true.
Imagine sitting down thinking "okay, it's time for me to solve the Cold War." Then cracking open a copy of Aesop's Fables.
When I first started posting on the Bore 10 years ago, I was trying to solve the problem of world hunger. *Cracks open new tab of Reddit.
Post by: TVC15 on July 01, 2018, 06:47:17 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 01, 2018, 06:47:45 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYWb0qQWkAAkrs1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/X9RldUF.jpg)
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 01, 2018, 06:51:20 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 01, 2018, 06:53:13 PM
Post by: Mandark on July 01, 2018, 06:53:58 PM
bitch about critical theory then accept flow charts with dragons in them, brehs
:drudge :drudge NEW PAGE: ASSIMILATE THINKS JP'S THEORIES ARE DUMB, WON'T READ HIS SHIT :drudge :drudge
Post by: thisismyusername on July 01, 2018, 07:02:19 PM
i went out for an entire night
Instead of reading a book within like 30 mins before you headed out? :doge You're so fucking lazy. But keep thinking you're giving us "L"'s while we laugh at you, moron.
Post by: TVC15 on July 01, 2018, 07:21:50 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 01, 2018, 07:26:51 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 01, 2018, 07:56:22 PM
Here are some actual charts from his totally legit and NOT pseudo-scientific books :doge
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYWb0qQWkAAkrs1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/X9RldUF.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVk4vtLEEV8
It all makes sense now! :ohhh
Post by: Tasty on July 01, 2018, 09:52:38 PM
Post by: kingv on July 01, 2018, 10:32:58 PM
yeah that chart is exactly the sort of shit jp stans would normally point to as evidence that academia has vanished up its own ass into irrelevant obscurantism
bitch about critical theory then accept flow charts with dragons in them, brehs
:drudge :drudge NEW PAGE: ASSIMILATE THINKS JP'S THEORIES ARE DUMB, WON'T READ HIS SHIT :drudge :drudge
Harvard is taking massive L’s not giving this guy tenure for his D&D dungeon master tier academic work.
Post by: Assimilate on July 01, 2018, 11:53:37 PM
That's great he's a cited clinical psychologist, but he makes his money on convincing sad, angry young men that "clean your room" and "walk with your shoulders straight" is mind blowing advice because he validates their feelings with evolutionary psychology (psuedo science) and Jungian psychology (long discredited in any professional circles) and then goes on tangents about witches and dragons and shit. Plus he looks goofy and has a funny voice.Stro, you cite me one single achievement you've had in your life... it could be the highest level of education and the specific field, a managerial job (even if it were at mcdonalds) or maybe a collegiate sport scholarship, i mean fucking anything because i doubt you have any of these. Seriously, i honestly doubt you have accomplished any of these low level achievements lol
Ergo, he's easy to laugh at and it's easier to laugh at his followers because at least he is smart enough to know the hustle and work the marks. No one is upset about him here no matter how many times you say they are to get someone riled up. He's just a fun person to laugh at right now. He'll burn out and be replaced by some other flash in the pan charlatan soon enough.
Anyways, it seems like all of this is good meme fun until you take a gander on what "Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief" is actually about. Since most of your efforts accumulate into simple google searches here's Wikipedia:
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Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief is a 1999 book by Canadian clinical psychologist and psychology professor Daddy P. The book describes a comprehensive theory for how people construct meaning, in a way that is compatible with the modern scientific understanding of how the brain functions.[1] It examines the "structure of systems of belief and the role those systems play in the regulation of emotion",[2] using "multiple academic fields to show that connecting myths and beliefs with science is essential to fully understand how people make meaning"
And then you guys laugh about dragons in illustrations?
I may actually buy this book for some of you. Because you autistys need it. Consider this a charity on my part, i don't want to see some of you off yourselves by 40.
Post by: Mandark on July 01, 2018, 11:57:01 PM
that's why we think he's dumb
that's why you think he's dumb
Post by: benjipwns on July 01, 2018, 11:57:55 PM
Post by: Assimilate on July 02, 2018, 12:00:11 AM
ya, we know he writes about fairy talesYou just discovered the new atheist movement and is actively rebelling against all forms of religious doctrine eh?
that's why we think he's dumb
that's why you think he's dumb
It's ok. I was a lot like you as well when i was 21.
Post by: Mandark on July 02, 2018, 12:00:56 AM
Post by: El Babua on July 02, 2018, 12:01:17 AM
Post by: Assimilate on July 02, 2018, 12:02:12 AM
I will read that shit and make a thread where I do a post for every chapter, and I'll throw in some lies, and anyone who can figure out what the made up shit is will get a Marvel No-Prize.Can you give me someone you actively listen to (podcast or otherwise) or read ? Maybe you can enlighten me.
Using someone's success as a barometer of why I should give a shit is the same pitch I got when this dude tried to make me join Amway and kept telling me how many NASA scientists and CEOs are a part of it.Wait a decade or two and have this same mentality when you seek a surgeon for a healthcare issue.
Post by: Mandark on July 02, 2018, 12:03:17 AM
new atheist
I been shitting on sam harris and chris hitchens all over this place, keep up
Post by: Assimilate on July 02, 2018, 12:03:56 AM
Ok, so show me real defeat. Give me something.new atheist
I been shitting on sam harris and chris hitchens all over this place, keep up
Post by: Mandark on July 02, 2018, 12:06:04 AM
Can you give me someone you actively listen to (podcast or otherwise) or read ? Maybe you can enlighten me.
ahahahaha "oh yeah well who do you like????"
Post by: El Babua on July 02, 2018, 12:07:21 AM
Using someone's success as a barometer of why I should give a shit is the same pitch I got when this dude tried to make me join Amway and kept telling me how many NASA scientists and CEOs are a part of it.Wait a decade or two and have this same mentality when you seek a surgeon for a healthcare issue.
I probably won't be asking Ben Carson what he thinks about society if I needed to get surgery done :yeshrug
Post by: Assimilate on July 02, 2018, 12:08:16 AM
???Can you give me someone you actively listen to (podcast or otherwise) or read ? Maybe you can enlighten me.
ahahahaha "oh yeah well who do you like????"
nah, i'm genuinely interested. Besides old guards, who do you actively listen to or follow now? From whom do you bounce your own intuition off of? An intellectual? A politician? A writer?
Post by: Mandark on July 02, 2018, 12:08:50 AM
Post by: Assimilate on July 02, 2018, 12:09:22 AM
Besides a crack dealing rap artist who would you ask then?Using someone's success as a barometer of why I should give a shit is the same pitch I got when this dude tried to make me join Amway and kept telling me how many NASA scientists and CEOs are a part of it.Wait a decade or two and have this same mentality when you seek a surgeon for a healthcare issue.
I probably won't be asking Ben Carson what he thinks about society if I needed to get surgery done :yeshrug
dave rubinI wouldn't even ask Dave Rubin. Keep up.
You can't even think of someone, can you? geez.
Post by: benjipwns on July 02, 2018, 12:11:46 AM
Daddy P never examines it from a clinical psychologist perspective as to what exactly he's perhaps unintentionally providing these people with that he has such an effect on them, instead he ignores that path entirely to see it as further justification to pursue his political jeremiad.
Post by: Assimilate on July 02, 2018, 12:15:49 AM
That makes me think of a funny part about Daddy P's crusade, and it was mentioned in the Dave Rubin fills other peoples water glasses part I watched, how he's helping people and how people come up to him or whoever and say "I got my life together, etc."He's stated multiple times over this isn't political. Take him at his word or not.
Daddy P never examines it from a clinical psychologist perspective as to what exactly he's perhaps unintentionally providing these people with that they he has such an effect on them, instead he ignores that path entirely to see it as further justification to pursue his political jeremiad.
The guy is an academic, has had decades to formulate his beliefs and viewpoints but Boy Genius has him figured out and surely knows what he hasn't thought of. ::)
You all are so much smarter. Seriously, you all have it figured out. It's why 90% of you have mental health issues or are depressed. You need Peterson into your lives. let him in bros. Save yourselves :lol
:doge
Post by: Mandark on July 02, 2018, 12:17:37 AM
Ok, so show me real defeat. Give me something.
I'm sorry I can't super serious internet battle you about jp, but it's cause we don't even disagree
you don't buy his metamyth bs and neither do I, and how are we gonna rumble when we're on the same side?
Post by: agrajag on July 02, 2018, 12:19:06 AM
REAL SCIENCE, YOU DUMB ATHEISTS
Post by: Assimilate on July 02, 2018, 12:25:14 AM
i do agree with him on a lot things. And he's turned my viewpoint on religion around, or at least has made me think differently about it's historical significance. That doesn't mean i agree with him on everything.Ok, so show me real defeat. Give me something.
I'm sorry I can't super serious internet battle you about jp, but it's cause we don't even disagree
you don't buy his metamyth bs and neither do I, and how are we gonna rumble when we're on the same side?
For example, his description on the necessity for both conservatives and liberals in a hierarchy and why conservatives were always better suited for running a company, or being managers. I always 'knew it' from a anecdotal or experienced sense, considering most of my managers were conservatives but a lot of the owners or CEOs tended to be liberals but i never knew why.
If anything he does make sense, wether you believe he's right or wrong and that's why he's continuously invited to lecture and debate.
as I predicted, Assclown had to google some shit to find out what daddy P is actually all about, and now he has to embarrassingly double down on chaos dragons and shit.
REAL SCIENCE, YOU DUMB ATHEISTS
What did i tell you about going to go douche
:ufup
Post by: agrajag on July 02, 2018, 12:28:36 AM
Post by: Assimilate on July 02, 2018, 12:30:39 AM
I for one would like to applaud J.Petes on leading multiple staunch atheists to god by telling them to clean their room.Sure, as long as he doesn't make them go allahu akbar ;)
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 02, 2018, 12:31:51 AM
Post by: benjipwns on July 02, 2018, 12:31:51 AM
He's stated multiple times over this isn't political. Take him at his word or not.well, i wasn't going to go that way but...
The guy is an academic, has had decades to formulate his beliefs and viewpoints but Boy Genius has him figured out and surely knows what he hasn't thought of.
Post by: Mandark on July 02, 2018, 12:32:42 AM
Post by: Assimilate on July 02, 2018, 12:33:29 AM
Wank Dad 2 is pretty disappointing, to be honest. Different protagonist who isn't as good, a tired retread of the previous storyline, meandering subplots that don't go anywhere. And it doesn't really add anything to the extended universe. 2 out of 5 stars.Next up: the dog censors speech some more. Now that's predictable.
:piss :doge :piss2
Post by: agrajag on July 02, 2018, 12:33:57 AM
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 02, 2018, 12:36:12 AM
Wank Dad 2 is pretty disappointing, to be honest. Different protagonist who isn't as good, a tired retread of the previous storyline, meandering subplots that don't go anywhere. And it doesn't really add anything to the extended universe. 2 out of 5 stars.Next up: the dog censors speech some more. Now that's predictable.
:piss :doge :piss2
There's no speech worth defending in this thread.
Post by: Assimilate on July 02, 2018, 12:36:38 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3eC35LoF4U
vagrajag the vagina. :snoop
Post by: Mandark on July 02, 2018, 12:37:02 AM
Post by: agrajag on July 02, 2018, 12:39:05 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3eC35LoF4U
vagrajag the vagina. :snoop
settle down Sensitive Macbook Trackpad, here's another music video for your shit thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik2YF05iX2w
Post by: shosta on July 02, 2018, 12:42:23 AM
https://youtu.be/YO7N2tFb0X8
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 02, 2018, 12:44:06 AM
Post by: Assimilate on July 02, 2018, 12:45:10 AM
settle down Sensitive Macbook Trackpad, here's another music video for your shit thread
You're right. We should lock this thread until i wake up.
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 02, 2018, 12:47:07 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IsSpAOD6K8
Post by: agrajag on July 02, 2018, 12:49:21 AM
:rejoice
:tauntaun
Post by: Mandark on July 02, 2018, 12:50:34 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PlFhr6gd6E
She covered the entire album and it's pretty good.
Post by: benjipwns on July 02, 2018, 12:51:07 AM
Post by: benjipwns on July 02, 2018, 12:52:47 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T2d2FRh0BM
(http://i986.photobucket.com/albums/ae342/dougfunnieiscrazy/Dougs%20Garage%20Band/16.jpg)(http://i986.photobucket.com/albums/ae342/dougfunnieiscrazy/Dougs%20Garage%20Band/19.jpg)
Post by: Mandark on July 02, 2018, 12:53:31 AM
Post by: Tasty on July 02, 2018, 12:56:25 AM
Wank Dad 2 is pretty disappointing, to be honest. Different protagonist who isn't as good, a tired retread of the previous storyline, meandering subplots that don't go anywhere. And it doesn't really add anything to the extended universe. 2 out of 5 stars.
I'm hoping Wank Dad 3: Magus' Revenge ends the trilogy on a high note.
Post by: benjipwns on July 02, 2018, 12:59:10 AM
Post by: agrajag on July 02, 2018, 12:59:39 AM
Post by: agrajag on July 02, 2018, 01:01:05 AM
this forum is turning into a constant brutal assault on my masculinity
It's like that time when Wrath pressured Andrex into turning gay, it keeps happening!
Post by: shosta on July 02, 2018, 01:01:26 AM
Post by: Nola on July 02, 2018, 01:02:34 AM
Wank Dad 2 is pretty disappointing, to be honest. Different protagonist who isn't as good, a tired retread of the previous storyline, meandering subplots that don't go anywhere. And it doesn't really add anything to the extended universe. 2 out of 5 stars.
I'm hoping Wank Dad 3: Magus' Revenge ends the trilogy on a high note.
Maybe that's when they will save the plot twist that Optimus is actually Assimilate's daddy?
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Honestly, it would be one of those developments you thought was too stupid and obvious that no way they go that direction.
[close]
Post by: shosta on July 02, 2018, 01:03:22 AM
Post by: agrajag on July 02, 2018, 01:06:43 AM
Assimilate is my cousin and I was the one who invited him to this forum.
ban both of them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otXGqU4LBEI
Post by: Nola on July 02, 2018, 01:07:26 AM
Assimilate is my cousin and I was the one who invited him to this forum.
That is definitely sequel territory, have to save the dad reveal for the capstone.
Post by: Mandark on July 02, 2018, 01:08:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxB4weCzqGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLeCB7Kn-VE
Post by: shosta on July 02, 2018, 01:09:42 AM
Post by: Mandark on July 02, 2018, 01:12:26 AM
Post by: agrajag on July 02, 2018, 01:12:30 AM
It's not true, but you two believed it for a second, huh?
I don't believe anything you say
Post by: Nola on July 02, 2018, 01:16:46 AM
It's not true, but you two believed it for a second, huh?
Even if only sharing like 10% of your DNA, no way the audience could buy Shosta and Assimilate being of that close of a genetic tree. That's why the sequel would end up a disappointment and a mess.
Thats why you'd have to make up for it in the third film and ground the twists in more obvious believability. Optimus = Assimilate, I could maybe buy it.
Post by: benjipwns on July 02, 2018, 01:18:27 AM
Assimilate, what is your greates achievment?cleaning his room*
*launch date: TBA
Post by: kingv on July 02, 2018, 01:44:10 AM
That makes me think of a funny part about Daddy P's crusade, and it was mentioned in the Dave Rubin fills other peoples water glasses part I watched, how he's helping people and how people come up to him or whoever and say "I got my life together, etc."
Daddy P never examines it from a clinical psychologist perspective as to what exactly he's perhaps unintentionally providing these people with that he has such an effect on them, instead he ignores that path entirely to see it as further justification to pursue his political jeremiad.
I kind of think him as like the new Mystery! or one of those other pickup artist guys. Like, they have so me good advice, but the good advice is actually really really simple, and they hide it behind a bunch of ridiculous bullshit to explain it.
Like “clean your room”, “have some self respect”, and “stop acting like such a pussy” is not bad advice, but this cuckolded dragon and flaccid king shit is just there to dress up the fact he’s giving you a dad talk telling you to get your head out of your ass.
Similarly, you’ll find dudes who will tell you that being a PUA changed their life... most of the advice is dumb, but wash your ass, try to dress yourself in a way that looks nice... or is at least interesting, and talk to a lot of chicks ends up being pretty good advice for a 25 year old that’s never kissed a girl but wants to.
Post by: Mandark on July 02, 2018, 01:53:32 AM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 02, 2018, 02:10:36 AM
Post by: benjipwns on July 02, 2018, 05:25:25 AM
Quote
Politically correct radicals are now beating up on Laura Ingalls Wilder, the author of the beloved “Little House on the Prairie” children’s books, which inspired a long-running TV series starring Michael Landon that ran from 1974 to 1983.
The Association of Library Services for Children, a part of the larger American Library Association, has unanimously voted to strip Wilder’s name from a prestigious book award it has given since 1954. The reason? “Wilder’s legacy, as represented by her body of work, includes expressions of stereotypical attitudes inconsistent with ALSC’s core values of inclusiveness, integrity and respect, and responsiveness.”
To its horror the group notes that Wilder’s novels include “statements by white characters portraying Native Americans as dirty, lazy, and dangerous.”
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The example that almost every Wilder critic cites is this passage in book she wrote in 1935:QuoteThere the wild animals wandered and fed as though they were in a pasture that stretched much farther than a man could see, and there were no people. Only Indians lived there.
Every other example simply reports on the attitudes of one character or another on Native Americans.
What the critics often don’t note is that Wilder was mortified when, before her death in 1957, a reader pointed out the passage to her. Wilder promptly wrote her publisher:QuoteYou are perfectly right about the fault in Little House on the Prairie and have my permission to make the correction as you suggest. It was a stupid blunder of mine. Of course Indians are people and I did not intend to imply they were not.
The word “people,” was replaced with the word “settler.”
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But despite the memories of Mrs. Scott and the hostility of the character Ma in the books, there are other voices taking the other side. Pa, for instance, is sympathetic to the Indians. They “would be as peaceable as anybody else if they were let alone.” Pa says. “On the other hand, they had been moved west so many times that naturally they hated white folks.”But we know the real reason is that these librarians are striking out in anger at her daughter (and sometimes suspected author) libertarian Rose Wilder Lane due to their hatred of freedom and desire to impose a brutal anti-masculine lifestyle as seen in most progressive cities.
Wilder’s characters frequently debate what stance the settlers should take toward the tribes, and they often provide valuable context that puts the discrimination shown against Native Americans into perspective.
Post by: thisismyusername on July 02, 2018, 08:54:33 AM
Wank Dad 2 is pretty disappointing, to be honest. Different protagonist who isn't as good, a tired retread of the previous storyline, meandering subplots that don't go anywhere. And it doesn't really add anything to the extended universe. 2 out of 5 stars.
"My gerbil could write a better screenplay."
Assy McGee should be barred from posting again until he reads one of JP's books and then writes us a 2000-word book report.
I've already told you this. Ban him for every post in this thread a day until he comes back (since he'll have SO MUCH FREE TIME to actually read a 46-page goddamn book) and then tells us what it's about.
Post by: thisismyusername on July 02, 2018, 09:26:28 AM
Post by: benjipwns on July 02, 2018, 01:56:38 PM
We already know what it's about: The Cold War and how to fix it with chaos dragons. And the Cold War ended, and we have to assume that Peterson was responsible.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZVwp5sChe0
:rejoice Daddy P :rejoice
Post by: Assimilate on July 02, 2018, 07:54:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xc7DN-noAc
Haven't listened to it yet. Should be a good one.
Post by: kingv on July 02, 2018, 08:00:52 PM
You know how I know he is a scammer? He has a Patreon.
Post by: TVC15 on July 02, 2018, 08:03:19 PM
Daddy P back on Joe Rogan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xc7DN-noAc
Haven't listened to it yet. Should be a good one.
https://youtu.be/_E37dROxsMI
Post by: Assimilate on July 02, 2018, 08:04:54 PM
The incellectual.Why? he was putting on hours and hours of his own lectures on youtube.
You know how I know he is a scammer? He has a Patreon.
Assimilate you didn't answer my question.I'll let you know in 8 months if i get the position i want, that would be my greatest professional accomplishment. I've attained all those other ones.
Post by: Oblivion on July 02, 2018, 08:20:00 PM
The incellectual.Why? he was putting on hours and hours of his own lectures on youtube.
You know how I know he is a scammer? He has a Patreon.
Come on, mang. You're just regurgitating the same talking points over and over now. At least etoilet knew how to find creative ways of repeating the same things.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 02, 2018, 08:27:41 PM
Post by: TVC15 on July 02, 2018, 08:27:50 PM
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 02, 2018, 08:29:35 PM
all this nostalgia for the days of milk and magus has me pining for dem superior cuts of meat. when mandark is straight-up phoning it in, and we haven't had one good ron paul moment or even a dead kid, the trough must be dry indeed
the feels
Post by: Leadbelly on July 02, 2018, 09:09:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJyFDdBu6UE
Post by: TVC15 on July 02, 2018, 09:21:37 PM
https://youtu.be/LDbELjO-GlU
Post by: Assimilate on July 02, 2018, 09:40:54 PM
Not Wank Dad, but one of Wank Dad's handy helpers.i'm not a fan and find him really annoying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJyFDdBu6UE
Post by: chronovore on July 02, 2018, 09:42:57 PM
elsewhere in the hollow world of bona fides: i wasted about 10 facebook posts arguing with a principal boeing engineer about chemtrails.
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."
- George Bernard Shaw
Post by: Leadbelly on July 02, 2018, 10:01:21 PM
Not Wank Dad, but one of Wank Dad's handy helpers.i'm not a fan and find him really annoying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJyFDdBu6UE
lol
You've had pages of nothing and now you're telling me you don't like it? Well, that is all I can find from the dark wank dad brigade. You'll have to wait until someone else cracks one off.
Post by: Assimilate on July 02, 2018, 10:10:54 PM
I'm not following? I don't like dave rubin.
lol
You've had pages of nothing and now you're telling me you don't like it? Well, that is all I can find from the dark wank dad brigade. You'll have to wait until someone else cracks one off.
Post by: Leadbelly on July 02, 2018, 10:19:45 PM
Post by: Mandark on July 02, 2018, 10:29:21 PM
https://twitter.com/Aodhan32/status/1013844734509449216
Post by: Assimilate on July 02, 2018, 10:34:28 PM
It shows the power of Jefferies, really.
Post by: curly on July 02, 2018, 10:44:00 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 02, 2018, 11:03:54 PM
Post by: Assimilate on July 02, 2018, 11:07:19 PM
https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1012892669444419584
:picard
he's kind of like Dawkins with his levels of cringe.
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on July 03, 2018, 02:32:34 AM
I like dragonsyou should teach at Harvard
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 03, 2018, 10:36:11 AM
Post by: Assimilate on July 03, 2018, 10:40:04 AM
Yeah, but towers with dragons and witches and lobsters is all good eh, fam?If your discussing ancient literature and myths then....But imagine being so autisty that you can't understand context eh, fam?
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 03, 2018, 12:04:34 PM
If your discussing ancient literature and myths then....But imagine being so autisty that you can't understand context eh, fam?
Wow, what an autis m.
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 03, 2018, 12:05:50 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 03, 2018, 12:28:50 PM
Quote
Women are more attracted to potential mates who have a “benevolent sexism” trait - despite the “detrimental effects” of these attitudes on women, a new study says.
The study, published in Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin by Pelin Gul from Iowa State University and Tom Kupfer from the University of Kent, built on previous definitions that psychologists have used to categorise sexism into two categories - hostile sexism (HS) and benevolent sexism (BS).
According to the definitions, hostile sexism refers to the sexism that is negative in nature and fits the “classic definition of prejudice.”
Benevolent sexism, however, is sexism which views women in a stereotypical way with restricted roles which tends to “elicit behaviours typically categorised as prosocial,” according to psychologists.
Examples of BS include thinking of women as homemakers, or being gentle and nurturing.
In the new study, researchers concluded that women are actually attracted to mates with benevolent sexism attitudes as the behaviours signal that a man is “willing to invest.”
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However, from a feminist standpoint, the study itself raises many concerns; Harriet Minter, a broadcaster, women’s rights journalist, and host of Badass Women’s Hour told The Independent: “The reality is that there’s nothing ‘benevolent’ about sexism. Sexism, like every other -ism, is based on power and reinforcing the dominant partner’s status. So ‘benevolent sexism’ is, to me, a contradiction in terms."Harriet Minter has never taught at Harvard.
...
Despite the findings of the authors - that benevolent sexism attitudes make men appear capable of providing and protecting - Minter does not believe referring to such actions as “benevolent sexism” justifies the behaviour.
“If anything it just adds to the patronising, patriarchal narrative that still exists around men and women's interactions,” she told us. “You don't buy someone dinner because you're being benevolent, you do it because you care about them and want to treat them, regardless of their gender, regardless of whether you're in a romantic relationship and, most importantly, with no assumption as to what this means about your status in comparison to each other.
“Sexism exists when one party assumes their gender gives them a higher or more special status than the other person, if you're acting in a certain way towards a woman because you think it is your duty as a man rather than simply your duty as a human, then there is a level of sexism there.”
Post by: kingv on July 03, 2018, 01:45:18 PM
No wonder my wife won’t agree to go to work while I stay home and cook and play video games.
Really... it is the patriarchy that keeps me from reaching my potential in titanfall.
Post by: Assimilate on July 03, 2018, 03:14:27 PM
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/sexist-men-sex-women-attracted-relationship-benevolent-sexism-a8429061.htmlNot sure what the push to make sure women can work as much as you. "look my wife works 60 hours a week" how fucking woke of you and i'm sure she looks super swell to.QuoteWomen are more attracted to potential mates who have a “benevolent sexism” trait - despite the “detrimental effects” of these attitudes on women, a new study says.
The study, published in Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin by Pelin Gul from Iowa State University and Tom Kupfer from the University of Kent, built on previous definitions that psychologists have used to categorise sexism into two categories - hostile sexism (HS) and benevolent sexism (BS).
According to the definitions, hostile sexism refers to the sexism that is negative in nature and fits the “classic definition of prejudice.”
Benevolent sexism, however, is sexism which views women in a stereotypical way with restricted roles which tends to “elicit behaviours typically categorised as prosocial,” according to psychologists.
Examples of BS include thinking of women as homemakers, or being gentle and nurturing.
In the new study, researchers concluded that women are actually attracted to mates with benevolent sexism attitudes as the behaviours signal that a man is “willing to invest.”QuoteHowever, from a feminist standpoint, the study itself raises many concerns; Harriet Minter, a broadcaster, women’s rights journalist, and host of Badass Women’s Hour told The Independent: “The reality is that there’s nothing ‘benevolent’ about sexism. Sexism, like every other -ism, is based on power and reinforcing the dominant partner’s status. So ‘benevolent sexism’ is, to me, a contradiction in terms."Harriet Minter has never taught at Harvard.
...
Despite the findings of the authors - that benevolent sexism attitudes make men appear capable of providing and protecting - Minter does not believe referring to such actions as “benevolent sexism” justifies the behaviour.
“If anything it just adds to the patronising, patriarchal narrative that still exists around men and women's interactions,” she told us. “You don't buy someone dinner because you're being benevolent, you do it because you care about them and want to treat them, regardless of their gender, regardless of whether you're in a romantic relationship and, most importantly, with no assumption as to what this means about your status in comparison to each other.
“Sexism exists when one party assumes their gender gives them a higher or more special status than the other person, if you're acting in a certain way towards a woman because you think it is your duty as a man rather than simply your duty as a human, then there is a level of sexism there.”
Post by: TakingBackSunday on July 03, 2018, 04:07:33 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 03, 2018, 04:43:04 PM
Yeah, but towers with dragons and witches and lobsters is all good eh, fam?If your discussing ancient literature and myths then....But imagine being so autisty that you can't understand context eh, fam?
it's like you've never seen this dude's videos
Post by: agrajag on July 03, 2018, 04:43:55 PM
:neogaf
Post by: thisismyusername on July 03, 2018, 04:51:13 PM
Post by: Mandark on July 03, 2018, 05:08:00 PM
While you were Communist Party-ing, I was studying the blade...
Post by: Assimilate on July 03, 2018, 05:09:24 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhJEIwbU8AUddsP.jpg)That's actually a pretty cool picture :obama
While you were Communist Party-ing, I was studying the blade...
Post by: Tasty on July 04, 2018, 01:24:59 AM
Post by: TVC15 on July 04, 2018, 01:34:02 AM
Post by: shosta on July 04, 2018, 03:45:02 AM
https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5affcca544769
Post by: shosta on July 04, 2018, 05:09:00 AM
Post by: Leadbelly on July 04, 2018, 06:00:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZMIbo_DxJk
Post by: agrajag on July 04, 2018, 06:05:34 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on July 04, 2018, 06:52:31 PM
Rubin must be so smart, he was invited to speak at Oxford. Checkmate, boretards.
Well, he interviews people. You're not really going to get an amazingly thought-provoking speech.
Post by: Assimilate on July 04, 2018, 08:45:35 PM
So Jordan Peterson also spoke at the Oxford Union as well as Dave Rubin. So you do get a Wank Dad video after all.I posed that already, breh. And it's a good one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZMIbo_DxJk
Post by: Oblivion on July 05, 2018, 10:30:53 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 05, 2018, 11:43:08 PM
Post by: Mandark on July 07, 2018, 03:44:40 PM
Post by: Rufus on July 07, 2018, 07:12:08 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 07, 2018, 07:19:05 PM
(https://i.warosu.org/data/lit/img/0095/93/1496682796020.jpg)
Post by: Assimilate on July 07, 2018, 07:21:26 PM
mods halp, i'm being doxed by a Vagina
Post by: thisismyusername on July 07, 2018, 07:35:43 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 08, 2018, 12:21:20 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhgQ0hYV4AAmT02.jpg)
I don't normally link to ground zero of JP fandom, but the thread referenced above is pro-click:
https://np.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/8wlhgw/i_started_a_jordan_peterson_meetup_and_now_im/
Post by: TVC15 on July 08, 2018, 12:40:11 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhgQ0hYV4AAmT02.jpg)
I don't normally link to ground zero of JP fandom, but the thread referenced above is pro-click:
https://np.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/8wlhgw/i_started_a_jordan_peterson_meetup_and_now_im/
500 bucks and I’ll attend their next meetup.
Post by: Assimilate on July 08, 2018, 12:52:52 AM
It's the closest you've been to a vagina in a long time, though.i live with my gf.
try harder.
Post by: TVC15 on July 08, 2018, 12:59:21 AM
It's the closest you've been to a vagina in a long time, though.i live with my gf.
try harder.
It’s true. Proof:
https://youtu.be/-y6GgG74GDw
Post by: thisismyusername on July 08, 2018, 08:57:32 AM
It's the closest you've been to a vagina in a long time, though.i live with my gf.
try harder.
::)
On another note: Have you actually finished the goddamn book, yet?
Post by: Assimilate on July 08, 2018, 10:52:24 AM
It's the closest you've been to a vagina in a long time, though.i live with my gf.
try harder.
You live with your girlfriend but still cyberstalk and obsess over all of your exes on facebook?
who doesn't do that?
:yeshrug
Post by: Assimilate on July 08, 2018, 11:31:36 AM
Well adjusted peopleand we have those on TheBore?
:huh
Post by: Assimilate on July 08, 2018, 11:52:21 AM
What a plot twist that Assimilate reveals himself to be an obsessive malcontent that hasn't even read any of Peterson's work. It's almost too poetic.You're trying too hard. It's not a good look.
Remember what Daddy P says
:ufup
Post by: TVC15 on July 08, 2018, 12:02:28 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 08, 2018, 12:39:11 PM
Post by: Trent Dole on July 08, 2018, 03:48:11 PM
Meh it's pretty damn obvious at this point that dude is a dumbass and a crypto fash, stop listening to him/giving him money. :derp
Post by: agrajag on July 08, 2018, 03:54:45 PM
Post by: Assimilate on July 08, 2018, 05:20:20 PM
Dillahunty obliterated him in that debate. I wasn't reading the wank dad thread at the time, but I imagine etiolate thought Daddy P held his own?
::)
As usual i went in for an annihilation and came out disappointed. This was akin to the Sam Harris debate where things get a bit bogged down and went nowhere. If you can point out where this "obliteration" occurred please do share, share some time stamps because i didn't see any.
Post by: Mandark on July 08, 2018, 05:24:47 PM
You really need to understand Peterson's theories (as laid out in Maps of Meanings) to appreciate how thoroughly he was humiliated.
Post by: agrajag on July 08, 2018, 05:28:53 PM
Dillahunty obliterated him in that debate. I wasn't reading the wank dad thread at the time, but I imagine etiolate thought Daddy P held his own?
::)
As usual i went in for an annihilation and came out disappointed. This was akin to the Sam Harris debate where things get a bit bogged down and went nowhere. If you can point out where this "obliteration" occurred please do share, share some time stamps because i didn't see any.
the part where your boy said that magic shrooms prove the existence of god
:ufup
you're a contrarian idiot if you think Dillahunty didn't do a much better job than Harris
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on July 08, 2018, 06:04:46 PM
It's the closest you've been to a vagina in a long time, though.i live with my gf.
try harder.
does she pay rent
Post by: Assimilate on July 08, 2018, 06:13:25 PM
Only that's not what he said now is it? https://youtu.be/FmH7JUeVQb8?t=1122
the part where your boy said that magic shrooms prove the existence of god
and he makes a point to say that's not what he said. And yet in your little vacuum that's still what you took away from it.
Peterson's whole thing is the connection between how people created meaning through myths, literature , etc and the psychology behind it. Yet, the autistys in here can't seem to get past that and keep doing a circle jerk around it. Like, either realize that's what the dude is about and go into listening to him with that in mind, or just i dunno? ignore him?
The most amusing part is listening to Dillahunty. For all the talk of 101 philosophy, Dillahunty is as base level 101 atheist as it gets. I did enjoy his salt levels though against Sam Harris, you can tell he feels a little cheated that Sam stole his thunder i guess.
Post by: agrajag on July 08, 2018, 06:16:03 PM
Assimilate is a philosophy expert now.
:lol
Post by: TVC15 on July 08, 2018, 06:27:43 PM
:lol
Assimilate is a philosophy expert now.
:lol
You fools are lost, just staring at shadows on the wall—unlike Assimilate, who’s staring at YouTube videos on the laptop screen because he’s illiterate. Y kant Assimilate read??
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on July 08, 2018, 06:42:34 PM
Post by: Assimilate on July 08, 2018, 06:59:23 PM
:lol
Assimilate is a philosophy expert now.
:lol
You fools are lost, just staring at shadows on the wall—unlike Assimilate, who’s staring at YouTube videos on the laptop screen because he’s illiterate. Y kant Assimilate read??
:lol
Assimilate is a philosophy expert now.
:lol
Absolutely not but i at least at minimum listen to what is being said. You guys don't even do that. You're so used to hot takes and clickbait that you go for certain cues to run with. You don't actually try to get the point of what is being said.
It's fine if the purpose is to run with some meme jokes and have a laugh but a majority of you are sincerely trying to annihilate the guy and fail miserably.
seriously tho does your gf pay rentI'm sorry i'm not comfortable answering too many personal questions with benji lurking around
:batman
Post by: agrajag on July 08, 2018, 07:05:55 PM
dude, actually no. He earnestly used magic mushrooms as evidence of god. Not to interpret myths, or explore shared culture, or whatever excuse you made for him. That was his evidence for god. That was just one example. Unlike you, apparently, I don't enjoy putting myself through the misery of watching Kermit Daddy speak, so unfortunately I will not be giving you timestamps. He meandered and avoided Dillahunty the entire debate, just like you are doing now. But, as has been pointed out, you don't believe in any of Daddy's pseudo-intellectual drivel, you are not a true believer like Etoilet. You just take the contrarian stance to whatever you see as the status quo on the board and get drunk on your weasely sidekick's likes.
:ufup
Post by: Oblivion on July 08, 2018, 07:11:36 PM
What a plot twist that Assimilate reveals himself to be an obsessive malcontent that hasn't even read any of Peterson's work. It's almost too poetic.
And this is BEFORE he's read any of Peterson's shitty books!
Imagine what Assimilate's final form will look like. :ohhh
Post by: TVC15 on July 08, 2018, 07:19:35 PM
:lol
Assimilate is a philosophy expert now.
:lol
You fools are lost, just staring at shadows on the wall—unlike Assimilate, who’s staring at YouTube videos on the laptop screen because he’s illiterate. Y kant Assimilate read??:lol
Assimilate is a philosophy expert now.
:lol
Absolutely not but i at least at minimum listen to what is being said. You guys don't even do that. You're so used to hot takes and clickbait that you go for certain cues to run with. You don't actually try to get the point of what is being said.
Bitch, I’m not pausing my funk music to listen to white people talk modern philosophy. Here, you want a free philosophy lesson, and this is honest and truthful: there hasn’t been a philosopher worth bothering with since, like Russell, Sartre, Popper, maybe Wittgenstein, maybe Camus. Philosophy is a dead and worthless field.
Now go stick a chubby thumb in your non-letter-recognizin’ ass. This forum’s REAL Daddy is going to be getting probed by Dr. Funkenstein while jerking off to his new Artaud reader. Now he’s someone you should be checking out. Sorry, no YouTube vids tho.
Post by: Kara on July 08, 2018, 07:21:32 PM
Meh it's pretty damn obvious at this point that dude is a dumbass and a crypto fash, stop listening to him/giving him money. :derp
If a smart person throws around the 100 million figure (like the Crank Dad does) they're not crypto.
Post by: Assimilate on July 08, 2018, 07:24:33 PM
:lolBro i just listened to this debate. He didn't avoid anything. It was a pretty crappy debate overall, with Dillahunty just regurgitating the typical 'secular humanist' stance of
dude, actually no. He earnestly used magic mushrooms as evidence of god. Not to interpret myths, or explore shared culture, or whatever excuse you made for him. That was his evidence for god. That was just one example. Unlike you, apparently, I don't enjoy putting myself through the misery of watching Kermit Daddy speak, so unfortunately I will not be giving you timestamps. He meandered and avoided Dillahunty the entire debate, just like you are doing now. But, as has been pointed out, you don't believe in any of Daddy's pseudo-intellectual drivel, you are not a true believer like Etoilet. You just take the contrarian stance to whatever you see as the status quo on the board and get drunk on your weasely sidekick's likes.
:ufup
-religion is outdated and bad
-our idea of the moral code is changeable and therefore better (even though he misses the point that humans aren't normally reasonable people, but of course and his utopia idea of 'logical thinkers' are)
-you can't prove god therefore there is no god
yada yada yada. like the rest of them they come off "i'm better than you" attitude which Peterson isn't even interested in, because he isn't some fucking bishop taking the bible literally in every regard which is what Dillahunty is used to. He's a texan boy that used to be religious so he's accustomed to having to debate people on that base level.
That's why this thing was dumb.
. Philosophy is a dead and worthless field.This is basically what Dawkins and Sam Harris used to say. But even Harris has started to change his viewpoint, mainly because of the implications of A.I but anyways.
Post by: Oblivion on July 08, 2018, 07:25:08 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 08, 2018, 07:27:33 PM
:ufup
Post by: Assimilate on July 08, 2018, 07:38:02 PM
Assimilate, if you were thoroughly impressed by Peterson's defense of the "mystical" (in quotes because like with many words, Peterson doesn't use them to mean things in the conventional sense that words mean things) experience with mushrooms, then I'm curious what you think about his argument that it's impossible to be a "true" atheist without murdering people and that all people who claim to be atheists are actually secret Christians?That's a good question Oblivion, rarely do you or anyone ever ask an actual question debated on one of these things.
I don't know what to think about that yet. I can say that before i'd be one to immediately laugh it off as preposterous but Peterson makes a convincing argument.
Because, you know, it's hard to say since i am a product of western culture, and despite me not ever enjoying religion as a kid i did believe in god as a child. So how can i say i'm a true atheist in the sense that Peterson says i'm not? I don't know.
There are no cultures out there without religion or an idea of 'god' as he says 'standing on the shoulders of giants'. There are cultures that have tried to be godless, forcefully, and that didn't go well, we know that. And there's places like Scandinavia that is very secular, but they still come from Christianity and a lot of values and morals were derived from religion.
The problem with Dillahunty's stance is that he thinks people are reasonable and care about his wellbeing. I wouldn't be so sure of that, like Peterson isn't. The argument in that case isn't someone irrationally walking up to him and just chopping his fucking head off just cuz, but if there was a reason for it and it could be justified reasonably outside of his wellbeing would they do it? I think they would.
Does that make sense?
Post by: Mandark on July 09, 2018, 12:05:56 AM
Post by: Oblivion on July 09, 2018, 12:09:44 AM
Assimilate, if you were thoroughly impressed by Peterson's defense of the "mystical" (in quotes because like with many words, Peterson doesn't use them to mean things in the conventional sense that words mean things) experience with mushrooms, then I'm curious what you think about his argument that it's impossible to be a "true" atheist without murdering people and that all people who claim to be atheists are actually secret Christians?That's a good question Oblivion, rarely do you or anyone ever ask an actual question debated on one of these things.
I don't know what to think about that yet. I can say that before i'd be one to immediately laugh it off as preposterous but Peterson makes a convincing argument.
Because, you know, it's hard to say since i am a product of western culture, and despite me not ever enjoying religion as a kid i did believe in god as a child. So how can i say i'm a true atheist in the sense that Peterson says i'm not? I don't know.
There are no cultures out there without religion or an idea of 'god' as he says 'standing on the shoulders of giants'. There are cultures that have tried to be godless, forcefully, and that didn't go well, we know that. And there's places like Scandinavia that is very secular, but they still come from Christianity and a lot of values and morals were derived from religion.
The problem with Dillahunty's stance is that he thinks people are reasonable and care about his wellbeing. I wouldn't be so sure of that, like Peterson isn't. The argument in that case isn't someone irrationally walking up to him and just chopping his fucking head off just cuz, but if there was a reason for it and it could be justified reasonably outside of his wellbeing would they do it? I think they would.
Does that make sense?
But the thing is, Christianity didn't come up with the idea of "murdering people is bad". This has been a thing since fricken Hammurabi. Not to mention that Christians have been quite terrible at following their own advice, as the Inquisition, Native American genocides, and hundreds of years of slavery have demonstrated.
Post by: agrajag on July 09, 2018, 12:11:24 AM
Post by: agrajag on July 09, 2018, 12:14:15 AM
Post by: Assimilate on July 09, 2018, 12:14:35 AM
ok? If i understand Peterson correctly, and Christianity in general, it was the first major religion to put the emphasis on the self, and the intrinsic value of ones "soul".Assimilate, if you were thoroughly impressed by Peterson's defense of the "mystical" (in quotes because like with many words, Peterson doesn't use them to mean things in the conventional sense that words mean things) experience with mushrooms, then I'm curious what you think about his argument that it's impossible to be a "true" atheist without murdering people and that all people who claim to be atheists are actually secret Christians?That's a good question Oblivion, rarely do you or anyone ever ask an actual question debated on one of these things.
I don't know what to think about that yet. I can say that before i'd be one to immediately laugh it off as preposterous but Peterson makes a convincing argument.
Because, you know, it's hard to say since i am a product of western culture, and despite me not ever enjoying religion as a kid i did believe in god as a child. So how can i say i'm a true atheist in the sense that Peterson says i'm not? I don't know.
There are no cultures out there without religion or an idea of 'god' as he says 'standing on the shoulders of giants'. There are cultures that have tried to be godless, forcefully, and that didn't go well, we know that. And there's places like Scandinavia that is very secular, but they still come from Christianity and a lot of values and morals were derived from religion.
The problem with Dillahunty's stance is that he thinks people are reasonable and care about his wellbeing. I wouldn't be so sure of that, like Peterson isn't. The argument in that case isn't someone irrationally walking up to him and just chopping his fucking head off just cuz, but if there was a reason for it and it could be justified reasonably outside of his wellbeing would they do it? I think they would.
Does that make sense?
But the thing is, Christianity didn't come up with the idea of "murdering people is bad". This has been a thing since fricken Hammurabi. Not to mention that Christians have been quite terrible at following their own advice, as the Inquisition, Native American genocides, and hundreds of years of slavery have demonstrated.
Much like Peterson's own teachings, if you take out all the goofy esoterics and leave the good stuff, you're left with simple, common-sense platitudes that have existed for millenia, such as "clean your room" and "don't murder people."Even if that were the case, what's the problem? He's made it clear who the book is for.
I hope you don't need someone to say "clean your room", and "walk with your shoulders back" when you're a grown ass man.
Post by: agrajag on July 09, 2018, 12:21:39 AM
I hope you don't need someone to say "clean your room", and "walk with your shoulders back" when you're a grown ass man.
No, but apparently you do.
:neogaf
Post by: Assimilate on July 09, 2018, 12:23:09 AM
I hope you don't need someone to say "clean your room", and "walk with your shoulders back" when you're a grown ass man.
No, but apparently you do.
:neogaf
:snore
i'm going to sleep. keep trying.
Post by: Mandark on July 09, 2018, 12:25:59 AM
Peterson sees the concept of natural rights as arising inevitably from Christian theology, specifically the idea that all people have "sovereignty" under the Christian God, and that this is a continuation of the democratization of classical Egyptian religion, which began as investing divinity only into the pharaohs and then gradually expanded spiritual value to some other classes of society.
There are some very big and very obvious problems with this.
Post by: agrajag on July 09, 2018, 12:26:00 AM
I hope you don't need someone to say "clean your room", and "walk with your shoulders back" when you're a grown ass man.
No, but apparently you do.
:neogaf
:snore
i'm going to sleep. keep trying.
Assimilate:
Quote from: Assimilate
I hope you don't need someone to say "clean your room", and "walk with your shoulders back" when you're a grown ass man.
Also Assimilate:
Quote from: Assimilate
I just purchased the 12 steps audiobook
:neogaf
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on July 09, 2018, 01:07:21 AM
assimos gf's hustle is strong
Post by: Kara on July 09, 2018, 01:08:12 AM
Peterson sees the concept of natural rights as arising inevitably from Christian theology, specifically the idea that all people have "sovereignty" under the Christian God, and that this is a continuation of the democratization of classical Egyptian religion, which began as investing divinity only into the pharaohs and then gradually expanded spiritual value to some other classes of society.
For someone who screams about Marxism all the time the Crank Dad sure seems to like his Hegelian dialectic.
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on July 09, 2018, 01:12:37 AM
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 09, 2018, 07:58:53 AM
Much like Peterson's own teachings, if you take out all the goofy esoterics and leave the good stuff, you're left with simple, common-sense platitudes that have existed for millenia, such as "clean your room" and "don't murder people."
As I said in the other thread, it's basically stoicism if you cut out the crap.
Post by: Assimilate on July 09, 2018, 10:45:00 AM
I hope you don't need someone to say "clean your room", and "walk with your shoulders back" when you're a grown ass man.
No, but apparently you do.
:neogaf
:snore
i'm going to sleep. keep trying.
Assimilate:Quote from: AssimilateI hope you don't need someone to say "clean your room", and "walk with your shoulders back" when you're a grown ass man.
Also Assimilate:Quote from: AssimilateI just purchased the 12 steps audiobook
:neogaf
Harping me to read a Peterson book and then making fun of me for reading a Peterson book?
:stop
Post by: agrajag on July 09, 2018, 11:23:00 AM
Etiolate
Post by: Assimilate on July 09, 2018, 11:42:11 AM
I once saw this guy on the bus. Cargo shorts, animu silk-screen shirt, long white socks, sneakers with velcro.You'll always get weirdos like that on both sides. It's like the occupy wall street movement, you ended up with a bunch of jobless hippies singing songs and snapping fingers.
He was reading Atlas Shrugged. A girl sat near him, he kept talking to her about the book, without her wanting him to.
She eventually pushed the stop button, got up, walked towards the front of the bus and sat back down.
I feel like that guy is probably deep in to Peterson.
Post by: agrajag on July 09, 2018, 11:45:03 AM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on July 09, 2018, 03:20:35 PM
...there hasn’t been a philosopher worth bothering with since, like Russell, Sartre, Popper, maybe Wittgenstein, maybe Camus.youre on record speaking approvingly of Foucault so I know you don’t actually believe this.
ok? If i understand Peterson correctly, and Christianity in general, it was the first major religion to put the emphasis on the self, and the intrinsic value of ones "soul".”Christianity is essentially a religion of individualism” is a claim that is obviously too broad and sweeping to accurately describe the core of something practiced/believed on six continents for ~2000 years by billions of people, alive (the quick?) and dead. If anything, it’s a common caricature of the type of reformed Presbyterianism that Peterson himself grew up in, that, for my money, he’s projecting across time and space to justify being a cold warrior in the year of our lord 2018.
There’s also no reason we should think Christianity places any more ‘value’ in the soul than either of the other abrahamic religions or the classical or Hellenistic systems of thought that Christianity appropriated from. At least not until ‘value’ is sufficiently defined/analyzed.
For someone who screams about Marxism all the time the Crank Dad sure seems to like his Hegelian dialectic.he needs reason to work itself out in history (through a Darwinian pruning, just of culture instead of physiology) in order to gripe about all this stored up latent knowledge that’s being trod upon. The end of history gives you a view that’s oddly just as utopian as the not-really-marxists that you’re shadowboxing.
Post by: TVC15 on July 09, 2018, 04:13:32 PM
...there hasn’t been a philosopher worth bothering with since, like Russell, Sartre, Popper, maybe Wittgenstein, maybe Camus.youre on record speaking approvingly of Foucault so I know you don’t actually believe this.
Kinda slipped my mind. The kinda is because although I do like a lot of his stuff, I often question the ultimate value of much of it.
And besides, Assimilate is way too dumb to grok that. He wouldn’t even be able to handle it in YouTube form.
Post by: team filler on July 09, 2018, 04:55:39 PM
Post by: Assimilate on July 09, 2018, 05:14:37 PM
Crappy ass Foucault? Where you learn in almost every single introductory writing and philosophy class in Univ GTFO You wanna discuss Panopticon next? :lol...there hasn’t been a philosopher worth bothering with since, like Russell, Sartre, Popper, maybe Wittgenstein, maybe Camus.youre on record speaking approvingly of Foucault so I know you don’t actually believe this.
Kinda slipped my mind. The kinda is because although I do like a lot of his stuff, I often question the ultimate value of much of it.
And besides, Assimilate is way too dumb to grok that. He wouldn’t even be able to handle it in YouTube form.
Now that's rich.
Did you even attend college you degenerate depressive?
Post by: team filler on July 09, 2018, 05:15:25 PM
Post by: Tasty on July 09, 2018, 05:19:58 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 09, 2018, 05:20:21 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 09, 2018, 05:21:03 PM
Daddy P's beef is with Derrida anyway. Even though Foucault was the Marxist.
Post by: agrajag on July 09, 2018, 05:22:01 PM
Post by: Assimilate on July 09, 2018, 05:22:46 PM
why would you teach Foucault in an introductory writing course?
Daddy P's beef is with Derrida anyway. Even though Foucault was the Marxist.
There is a reason they teach Foucault in class and not Cranky P.I don't remember why it was taught in writing but it was (if i remember correctly) because funny enough i wrote a paper on Foucault. i think it was based on Panopticon and i applied it to the movie The Matrix :D :lol
Post by: shosta on July 09, 2018, 05:29:09 PM
You wanna discuss Panopticon next?Sure. With lush texture and a chorus that's equal parts beautiful and kick-ass, Billy Corgan proved that he could still deliver the unique, soaring rock anthems Smashing Pumpkins has always been known for. Oceania in general represents a hard u-turn from the heavier Machina and Zeitgeist, successfully putting a Corgan spin on the newer alt rock style popularized by bands like Interpol. Panopticon is the hardest hitting track, lurching forward with urgency toward a breathtaking climax. A must listen for any Smashing Pumpkins fan.
https://youtu.be/zxT8DxeGwXM
Post by: Mandark on July 09, 2018, 05:30:58 PM
Foucault? Where you learn in almost every single introductory writing
lie
Post by: shosta on July 09, 2018, 05:31:16 PM
https://youtu.be/EJ7JCcp4YF4
https://youtu.be/ZoaZ3PAHjmg
Post by: TVC15 on July 09, 2018, 05:34:59 PM
I unno, we did Foucault in writing class too
Really? Any idea why?
And yes, Assy, the panopticon is The One Thing everybody knows about Foucault. You get a Scooby snack.
And I’m a little insulted that you’d assume I’m a product of the educational industrial complex like yr boy Daddy P
Post by: agrajag on July 09, 2018, 05:37:07 PM
I unno, we did Foucault in writing class too
Really? Any idea why?
The book that we used had a bunch of essays by different writers and we had to write essays about those essays. The Foucault one was an essay about writing. It was the most boring shit.
Also, this is filler
https://youtu.be/X-Y6YfDBmh8
Post by: TVC15 on July 09, 2018, 05:39:34 PM
I unno, we did Foucault in writing class too
Really? Any idea why?
The book that we used had a bunch of essays by different writers and we had to write essays about those essays. The Foucault one was an essay about writing. It was the most boring shit.
Also, this is filler
https://youtu.be/X-Y6YfDBmh8
Yeah, sounds like the kinda thing I’d skip. I was primarily interested in the histories because they’re fun.
Post by: agrajag on July 09, 2018, 05:41:36 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 09, 2018, 06:05:57 PM
Isn't Foucault's essay on it just metaphorically restating Bentham's straightforward reasoning on the concept and its benefits? Maybe I should read it again instead of Assimilating on The Bore.
Post by: shosta on July 09, 2018, 06:09:26 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 09, 2018, 06:11:14 PM
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Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 09, 2018, 06:15:48 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 09, 2018, 06:23:03 PM
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Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 09, 2018, 06:37:08 PM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on July 09, 2018, 06:50:08 PM
this isn’t true
[foucault, who] you learn in almost every single introductory...philosophy class in Univ?
Even though Foucault was the Marxist.He was as much of a Marxist as you had to be in 60s/70s France. Which is to say, engaging with Marx academically like you would Hume or whoever, without having to be an actual, you know, commie. I have a hard time considering his politics were meaningfully Marxist given:
i) “Marxist thought exists in nineteenth-century thought like a fish in water: that is, it is unable to breathe anywhere else. Their [viz. classical, ‘bourgeois’ economics and revolutionary, ‘Marxian’ economics] controversies may have stirred up a few waves and caused a few surface ripples; but they are no more than storms in a children’s paddling pool.” The order of things pg. 262
and ii) his boner for Gary Becker and flirtations with what he took as the neoliberal turn towards the end of his career.
Really, to a man all of the poststructuralists were boring socdems (but what is a socdem but a half-hearted Marxist amirite?). Part of what this subversive conspiracy narrative that tries to pigeonhole everyone who’s French or German (and let’s be real, Jewish) into an unproblematic commie obscures are the real faultlines and incommensurabilities between, for instance, the deleuzians/derrideans/foucauldians and the legit ‘cultural marxists’ of the Frankfurt school. Not to mention everyone else who doesn’t fit neatly into either camp, like lyotard, Althusser(lol), and, probably, baudrillard. Some of them can be legit styled ‘postmodern’ understood narrowly as subscription to either epistemic or metaphysical anti-realism (and potentially both). None of their works/thought can be reducibly described in colloquial ‘isms’ taken from contemporary American political discourse because they were far too careful of thinkers to be summarized within five bullet points.
Jake, does your company offer policies that can be cashed out even in the event of a suicideOnly if you consider purgatory to be a benefit.
Incidentally, great example of Christianity not being committed to individual autonomy:
Quote from: Catholic Catechism 2280
Everyone is responsible for his life before God who has given it to him. It is God who remains the sovereign Master of life. We are obliged to accept life gratefully and preserve it for his honor and the salvation of our souls. We are stewards, not owners, of the life God has entrusted to us. It is not ours to dispose of.
Quote from: 2281
Suicide contradicts the natural inclination of the human being to preserve and perpetuate his life. It is gravely contrary to the just love of self. It likewise offends love of neighbor because it unjustly breaks the ties of solidarity with family, nation, and other human societies to which we continue to have obligations. Suicide is contrary to love for the living God.
I’m not sure the individualism/collectivism binary isn’t just a feature of literally every group dynamic ever rather than an ideological struggle between light and dark.
Post by: benjipwns on July 09, 2018, 07:23:29 PM
He was as much of a Marxist as you had to be in 60s/70s France. Which is to say, engaging with Marx academically like you would Hume or whoever, without having to be an actual, you know, commie. I have a hard time considering his politics were meaningfully Marxist givenI mean compared to Derrida, which is who Peterson singles out as the leading force of postmodernist cultural Marxism, only occasionally mentioning Foucault too offhanded (as if he's the only other postmodernist he knows) while focusing most of his ire and center of the cultural Marxist postmodernist conspiracy on Derrida and his work. When he's explaining what cultural Marxism is to Joe Rogan he never once mentions anyone but Derrida, who he says founded it via postmodernism.
Foucault at least spent more than a weekend entertaining and exploring Marxist ideas. Even if it was just cursory because of the moment he lived in. The fact that of the two most famous postmodernists, Peterson can't identify the one who actually did toy with Marxist thought against the one so deep into his own deconstructionism that he tuned out the rest of the world and dismissed Marxism rather early on, supports the common refrain that he's doing just a skim pass on these subjects that's not even Wikipedia level deep, then constructing elaborate conspiracies to fill in the gaps created by his lack of interest in understanding the subject.
Post by: benjipwns on July 09, 2018, 07:30:15 PM
Reading Derrida's deconstruction theory was the most disappointing experience for me since The Phantom Menace.I've never thought Derrida was all that relevant to what deconstruction became. Plus I mean the guy openly admitted to writing in such a way as to obscure his ideas from being understood. It's like he's writing a bunch of tracts saying "there's this fantastic way of looking at the world, and truth, but I'm not telling, you gotta figure it out on your own, only then can you truly know" and then he gets credit when people went and did it basically separately since he was of no help and impossible to work with.
Foucault basically knew it was all a game in the end. And at times seemed disappointed others were taking it so seriously.
Post by: Oblivion on July 09, 2018, 07:32:03 PM
And I was educated in the dark blue, liberal cesspool known as Los Angeles. Leads me to believe the Postmodernist Neomarxists who run our college/university system are doing a pretty shitty job indoctrinating the student population.
Post by: benjipwns on July 09, 2018, 07:38:26 PM
Post by: TVC15 on July 09, 2018, 07:41:34 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 09, 2018, 07:42:37 PM
Post by: Mandark on July 09, 2018, 07:46:46 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 09, 2018, 07:49:06 PM
after the dude thanked me for "something to think about" and i was like what in the fuck just happened and the prof/chair looked like she wanted to die
it's probably an issue that all my favorite memories about school/college are when everything has gone wrong from a certain point of view
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 09, 2018, 07:53:13 PM
It's odd that Marxism has completely overrun higher ed and poisoned the minds of our youth but basically no economics department teaches Marx outside of like one or two readings in a History of Econ class or whatever.
TBF economic departments are closer to business school than higher education.
Post by: benjipwns on July 09, 2018, 07:53:54 PM
It's odd that Marxism has completely overrun higher ed and poisoned the minds of our youth but basically no economics department teaches Marx outside of like one or two readings in a History of Econ class or whatever.No, that makes complete sense. Nobody deliberately takes econ courses except econ majors.
Post by: Mandark on July 09, 2018, 07:55:59 PM
i basically just dunked on his extreme Whig view of history
I always read these stories as you being an unreliable narrator.
Post by: benjipwns on July 09, 2018, 08:00:15 PM
I never had the heart to tell him how weak his soft-Marxism was. He seemed so proud to tell people at the start of every course about his "bias" that never really came into play.
"I'm not a partisan, just a truth teller" partisans were always worse than any ideologues. They were far more likely to get distracted and go off on tangents about whatever was on the Daily Show recently. Obviously all Democrats, but I imagine they would have been just as bad if they were Republicans unless some kind of social stigma shamed them out of it.
Post by: Assimilate on July 09, 2018, 08:05:11 PM
Anecdotal evidence to be sure, but I took quite a few philosphy classes in college, and they literally never once mentioned Foucalt or Derrida. I didn't hear about Foucalt until I took a gender studies course in universityYou are right Oblivion. I gave him too much created. Gender studies is the right level.
Post by: benjipwns on July 09, 2018, 08:07:22 PM
I don't see anything wrong with doing that. Though I think most all my stories are more often lame with punched up joke language than seemingly unbelievable. I fully support endless skepticism. (Except about my internet argument win-loss record.)i basically just dunked on his extreme Whig view of history
I always read these stories as you being an unreliable narrator.
The guy literally asked if anyone in the class thought life in society had a chance at getting worse in the future. I wish I remembered his name because when I looked him up his whole thing was like weirdo hippie philosophy and "peace studies" which didn't seem to consist of any actual research.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 09, 2018, 08:22:37 PM
The only professor I ever had who openly stated they were a Marxist was also the best or at minimum top three professors I had. Easily the best poli sci professor.
I never had the heart to tell him how weak his soft-Marxism was. He seemed so proud to tell people at the start of every course about his "bias" that never really came into play.
"I'm not a partisan, just a truth teller" partisans were always worse than any ideologues. They were far more likely to get distracted and go off on tangents about whatever was on the Daily Show recently. Obviously all Democrats, but I imagine they would have been just as bad if they were Republicans unless some kind of social stigma shamed them out of it.
My favorite philosophy prof. was the son of the Dayton referred to in this case https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/357/144/
He was a commie and both his parents were too. His dad was an MIT physics prof. who had to leave MIT and then a string of other universities due to his political beliefs. His mom had an affair with some dude who stole a bunch of stuff from IBM then fled to the USSR with his mom. My prof. then found out he had a Soviet family like 30 years later. My prof. moved to Canada to avoid Vietnam. Pretty interesting life.
Post by: benjipwns on July 09, 2018, 08:38:23 PM
My favorite teacher was my kindergarten teacher, because she let us have cookies and napsand how excited are you for first grade this fall?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 09, 2018, 08:40:47 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 09, 2018, 08:42:35 PM
or worse, a moderate
Post by: Kara on July 09, 2018, 08:54:43 PM
Econ classes are some of the best courses you can take.
I took macro from this guy named Robert Crouch, a pretty conservative but straightforward guy. He would talk about labor and capital and what would happen if there was a shortage or a glut of either one. He loved using the example of a neutron bomb as how we could hypothetically get a shortage of labor while the capital stock remained intact.
He used an outlandish hypothetical instead of the bubonic plague as the genesis of capitalism theory? :heh
Post by: Mandark on July 09, 2018, 09:02:11 PM
Otherwise you get a bunch of kids thinking they understand way more than they do and calling things "distortionary" and whatnot.
Post by: TVC15 on July 09, 2018, 09:07:12 PM
Second favorite would be my 11th grade (iirc) history teacher because he would just go into th back room of the classroom to drink during class. He’d say he had to step out for a minute and then he’d come back like 15 minutes later with a red face and even drunker.
Post by: benjipwns on July 09, 2018, 09:07:57 PM
The best way to teach undergrad econ is to constantly remind the students what a house of cards the theory is all built on.wow, way too soon, kevin spacey is facing new charges just recently
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 09, 2018, 09:11:57 PM
Post by: curly on July 09, 2018, 09:25:37 PM
Anecdotal evidence to be sure, but I took quite a few philosphy classes in college, and they literally never once mentioned Foucalt or Derrida. I didn't hear about Foucalt until I took a gender studies course in university and even then, he was only mentioned in one class session, and wasn't even the primary focus of that class session.
And I was educated in the dark blue, liberal cesspool known as Los Angeles. Leads me to believe the Postmodernist Neomarxists who run our college/university system are doing a pretty shitty job indoctrinating the student population.
I'm going based off secondhand knowledge taken from family members that are academics so I may be off but as I understand it basically all American philosophy departments are oriented towards the analytic school so they're not going to talk about Foucault, much less Derrida who is pretty much anathema. In general they're much more influential in other humanities departments. I know the structuralists/poststructuralists are really big in literary theory for example.
Post by: benjipwns on July 09, 2018, 09:47:14 PM
Political science has focused so much on quantifiable or comparative studies in part to fight off that fate. A lot of political theory has been just plain wiped out. Especially to feed IR (no PD) and MPA slots. If it wasn't for the importance of institutions and processes it'd probably be rougher. A major problem is that nobody apparently can actually teach research methods properly. Or wants to. So departments get totally unbalanced easily.
One reason benji still acquires filthy lucre to forward to Gaben. 8)
Post by: Kara on July 09, 2018, 09:52:19 PM
Post by: BisMarckie on July 09, 2018, 10:25:19 PM
BTW, this digression makes me glad I studied actually useful things in university like Mu'tazila theology, memes in the People's Republic of China, and a form of Arabic no one speaks outside of a news broadcast.
If anything this makes kinda sad that I weaseled my way out of stuff like philosophy of law. The only thing I read during my free time was Zygmunt Bauman's Modernity and Ambivalence.
Post by: benjipwns on July 09, 2018, 10:27:39 PM
Post by: BisMarckie on July 09, 2018, 10:30:26 PM
And yet between us all, how many citations in social psychology journals?
My ex gf was a psychologist if that counts :trumps
Post by: TVC15 on July 09, 2018, 10:33:01 PM
Post by: BisMarckie on July 09, 2018, 10:34:54 PM
Did she dump you for P-Daddy?
I don't think so, but maybe she cited him after we broke up, that swamp witch!
Post by: TVC15 on July 09, 2018, 10:39:12 PM
Did she dump you for P-Daddy?
I don't think so, but maybe she cited him after we broke up, that swamp witch!
That’s rough. Mo context, mo problems, as they say.
Post by: Kara on July 10, 2018, 12:10:27 AM
Post by: Crash Dummy on July 10, 2018, 01:43:23 AM
I'm going based off secondhand knowledge taken from family members that are academics so I may be off but as I understand it basically all American philosophy departments are oriented towards the analytic school so they're not going to talk about Foucault, much less Derrida who is pretty much anathema. In general they're much more influential in other humanities departments. I know the structuralists/poststructuralists are really big in literary theory for example.what analytical stuff is hot these days? i read some frege a while ago then found out he was an anti-semite, so skipped to some wittgenstein where i think he said this is all word games so have your fun with it but don't lose any sleep
Post by: Kara on July 10, 2018, 01:49:07 AM
What was the word?
It was a place but no one knew what it meant. (As in, what would we call it today.)
Post by: curly on July 10, 2018, 02:00:29 AM
I'm going based off secondhand knowledge taken from family members that are academics so I may be off but as I understand it basically all American philosophy departments are oriented towards the analytic school so they're not going to talk about Foucault, much less Derrida who is pretty much anathema. In general they're much more influential in other humanities departments. I know the structuralists/poststructuralists are really big in literary theory for example.what analytical stuff is hot these days? i read some frege a while ago then found out he was an anti-semite, so skipped to some wittgenstein where i think he said this is all word games so have your fun with it but don't lose any sleep
I don't really know anything about analytical philosophy, it's generally too dry for me. Give me a literary bullshitter like Derrida any day.
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 10, 2018, 12:05:09 PM
Post by: Assimilate on July 10, 2018, 12:07:08 PM
I wrote a paper in econ about console hardware sales. True story.
What the teacher thought of dogmod's paper
:piss :doge :piss2
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 10, 2018, 12:09:29 PM
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Post by: agrajag on July 10, 2018, 02:54:32 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 10, 2018, 04:59:18 PM
My favorite teacher was a philosophy prof.. He knew his shit. One day this douche name Todd said something to him that he just couldn't come back from. He never returned back to class. :'(
Marine Todd??!? :whoo
Post by: TVC15 on July 10, 2018, 08:58:55 PM
Post by: Assimilate on July 10, 2018, 09:16:03 PM
While dozing off on my Company Bus home, I briefly imagined myself in the Wild Things three-way scene except with Susan Sontag and Camille Paglia. I’ve never had a bigger erection.If it doesn't include a dragon in there then it's not relevant to the thread
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edit: i totally laid that one up for you
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Post by: shosta on July 10, 2018, 10:55:09 PM
While dozing off on my Company Bus home, I briefly imagined myself in the Wild Things three-way scene except with Susan Sontag and Camille Paglia. I’ve never had a bigger erection.That grey streak :lawd.
Post by: TVC15 on July 10, 2018, 10:58:05 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 11, 2018, 04:20:01 AM
Post by: Assimilate on July 11, 2018, 08:35:15 AM
Somewhat related, but I listened to Glen Loury for the first time, and for some reason I thought he wouldn't be so bad, but it turns out he's just as awful and disingenuous as every Black conservative in the past 40 years. The fact that etoilet admired the guy makes perfect sense now. And the fact that Sam Harris loves this dude also confirms my impression that Harris himself is pretty awful.And how so? What did you not like about him
Post by: Oblivion on July 11, 2018, 07:26:48 PM
Somewhat related, but I listened to Glen Loury for the first time, and for some reason I thought he wouldn't be so bad, but it turns out he's just as awful and disingenuous as every Black conservative in the past 40 years. The fact that etoilet admired the guy makes perfect sense now. And the fact that Sam Harris loves this dude also confirms my impression that Harris himself is pretty awful.And how so? What did you not like about him
He's a disingenuous hack. He was having a debate with someone else regarding (among other things, Trump) and claims that people think he's racist because he simpy wants to "protect the border". He also seems like the typical conservative who blames all of black society's problems stemming from getting too much welfare.
Post by: Assimilate on July 11, 2018, 09:12:13 PM
yeah i don't buy that. sorry. i've heard multiple podcasts with him on it and he's never come off like that.Somewhat related, but I listened to Glen Loury for the first time, and for some reason I thought he wouldn't be so bad, but it turns out he's just as awful and disingenuous as every Black conservative in the past 40 years. The fact that etoilet admired the guy makes perfect sense now. And the fact that Sam Harris loves this dude also confirms my impression that Harris himself is pretty awful.And how so? What did you not like about him
He's a disingenuous hack. He was having a debate with someone else regarding (among other things, Trump) and claims that people think he's racist because he simpy wants to "protect the border". He also seems like the typical conservative who blames all of black society's problems stemming from getting too much welfare.
if you can time stamp where he's said stuff like this within a larger context then i'd believe you. any time i've heard him speak it's basically been him complaining that black people are giving up their agency, and giving up their own self-respect by blaming everything on their ancestors being slaves.
he's also slammed ta-nehisi coates which i appreciate, considering that dude is actually a real fucking racist, and doesn't do any good for the black community.
Post by: TVC15 on July 12, 2018, 01:29:29 AM
Oh yeah. Maybe P Daddy will be replacing Sontag in the pre-sleep fantasy Wild Things threesome tonight. Camille could pour the champagne on his tits.
Post by: Mandark on July 12, 2018, 01:29:40 AM
Worth reading about his personal life back in the day. Shines a very different light on the articles he was writing in the 80's about black Americans being the victims of their own pathologies.
Post by: Oblivion on July 12, 2018, 06:47:38 AM
yeah i don't buy that. sorry. i've heard multiple podcasts with him on it and he's never come off like that.Somewhat related, but I listened to Glen Loury for the first time, and for some reason I thought he wouldn't be so bad, but it turns out he's just as awful and disingenuous as every Black conservative in the past 40 years. The fact that etoilet admired the guy makes perfect sense now. And the fact that Sam Harris loves this dude also confirms my impression that Harris himself is pretty awful.And how so? What did you not like about him
He's a disingenuous hack. He was having a debate with someone else regarding (among other things, Trump) and claims that people think he's racist because he simpy wants to "protect the border". He also seems like the typical conservative who blames all of black society's problems stemming from getting too much welfare.
if you can time stamp where he's said stuff like this within a larger context then i'd believe you.
I don't have a video sadly (I heard it on some radio program on the way to work), but he said some stuff that was pretty eyebrow raising. For instance, he was bragging about how Trump was playing 11th dimensional chess this entire time from getting elected, up to setting up his nominee for the SC. As if Trump has any ideology beyond enriching himself.
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any time i've heard him speak it's basically been him complaining that black people are giving up their agency, and giving up their own self-respect by blaming everything on their ancestors being slaves.
Yeah, but this also seems like standard conservative conventional wisdom, whether you're white or black.
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he's also slammed ta-nehisi coates which i appreciate, considering that dude is actually a real fucking racist, and doesn't do any good for the black community.
Okay, this should be fun. Can you elaborate?
Post by: Assimilate on July 12, 2018, 08:12:08 AM
Elaborate that the guy basically gives everything up to racism? says black america has no chance because of 'whiteness'. the dude is off his rocker.
Okay, this should be fun. Can you elaborate?
Just some quotes from his fucking response to kanye west that will leave your head spinning : everything is so ironic, how he sees everything as "whiteness"
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Yes, it had to have happened like this, like folk wisdom, because when I think of that era, I do not think of MTV, but of the futile attempt to stay awake and navigate the yawning whiteness of Friday Night Videos
on Michael Jackson
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And he had always been dying—dying to be white. That was what my mother said, that you could see the dying all over his face, the decaying, the thinning, that he was disappearing into something white, desiccating into something white, erasing himself
On america:
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It is hard because what happened to America in 2016 has long been happening in America, before there was an America, when the first Carib was bayoneted and the first African delivered up in chains. It is hard to express the depth of the emergency without bowing to the myth of past American unity, when in fact American unity has always been the unity of conquistadors and colonizers—unity premised on Indian killings, land grabs, noble internments, and the gallant General Lee. Here is a country that specializes in defining its own deviancy down so that the criminal, the immoral, and the absurd become the baseline, so that even now, amidst the long tragedy and this lately disaster, the guardians of truth rally to the liar’s flag.
this is just what i could stand.. then he goes waxing on about how amazing Kayne used to be and his sock of his support for Trump. Like most of these dudes he puts way too much stock into rappers. Guy is a nut job and it's where most of blackera gets their shit from. He's moving the needle in that direction.
But Glen Loury says, this dude is holding a losing hand.
Post by: kingv on July 12, 2018, 04:30:32 PM
What was the word?
It was a place but no one knew what it meant. (As in, what would we call it today.)
Istanbul/Constantinople
Post by: benjipwns on July 16, 2018, 05:47:14 PM
Post by: Assimilate on July 16, 2018, 06:01:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXTjL-f-msU
that was fucking painful. how can that be a college? and then you see those morons in the back snapping their fingers.
Post by: benjipwns on August 03, 2018, 12:17:37 PM
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/8/3/17644180/political-correctness-free-speech-liberal-data-georgetown
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But a brand new data analysis from Georgetown University’s Free Speech Project suggests that this “crisis” is more than a little overblown. There have been relatively few incidents of speech being squelched on college campuses, and there’s in fact limited evidence that conservatives are being unfairly targeted.
The Free Speech Project’s researchers have cataloged more than 90 incidents since 2016 that fit their criteria for a person’s free speech rights being threatened. Of those 90, about two-thirds took place on college campuses. These incidents range from a speaker being disinvited to a faculty member being fired over allegedly offensive comments to a student-run play being canceled over concerns it would offend.
The raw numbers here should already raise questions about the so-called political correctness epidemic. According to the Department of Education, there are 4,583 colleges and universities in the United States (including two- and four-year institutions). The fact that there were roughly only 60 incidents in the past two years suggests that free speech crises are extremely rare events and don’t define university life in the way that critics suggest.
Moreover, there’s a consistent pattern in the data when it comes to conservatives — one that tells a different story than you hear among free speech panickers.
“Most of the incidents where presumptively conservative speech has been interrupted or squelched in the last two or three years seem to involve the same few speakers: Milo Yiannopoulos, Ben Shapiro, Charles Murray, and Ann Coulter ,” Sanford Ungar, the Free Speech Project’s director, writes. “In some instances, they seem to invite, and delight in, disruption.”
What Ungar is suggesting here is that the “campus free speech” crisis is somewhat manufactured. Conservative student groups invite speakers famous for offensive and racially charged speech — all of the above speakers fit that bill — in a deliberate attempt to provoke the campus left. In other words, they’re trolling. When students react by protesting or disrupting the event, the conservatives use it as proof that there’s real intolerance for conservative ideas.
The other key thing that emerges from the Georgetown data, according to Ungar, is that these protests and disruptions don’t just target the right. “Our data also include many incidents, generally less well-publicized, where lower-profile scholars, speakers, or students who could be considered to be on the left have been silenced or shut down,” he writes.
Examples include Princeton professor Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor’s commencement speech being canceled after receiving death threats for criticizing President Donald Trump and the president of Sonoma State University apologizing for allowing a black student to read a poem critical of police violence at commencement.
There’s little reason, according to Ungar, to conclude from any of this that conservative views are uniquely unwelcome on campus.
“One among many untested concepts,” he writes, “is whether the survey results would be different if conservative student groups, instead of repeatedly inviting campus visitors who have built a brand of disruption, were to sponsor serious intellectual dialogue with thinkers on the right.”
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The pro-free speech Foundation for Individual Rights in Education keeps a database of speaker disinvitations from campuses. It finds only a handful of disinvitations — somewhere between 20 and 42 — in every year between 2011 and 2017. The highest single-year spike, from 21 in 2015 to 42 in 2016, is mostly the work of one provocateur launching an intentionally inflammatory college tour.
“11 of the 42 disinvitations were for a single speaker: Breitbart editor and right-wing provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos,” FIRE’s Alex Morey writes. “His controversial ‘Dangerous Feggot Tour’ traveled to colleges across the country this year and seemed to prompt a new report of attempted censorship in some form or another each week.”
Post by: Assimilate on August 03, 2018, 03:56:35 PM
We got it Daddy up in here at thebore etoilet.
:uguu
Post by: agrajag on August 03, 2018, 04:42:51 PM
Post by: Assimilate on August 04, 2018, 05:18:03 PM
you but you fucked off from your own thread like a little bitch cause you can't defend that fruitcakeI'll admit that his daughters recent foray into dietary guidance is worrisome. Daddy's empire could crumble cuz of this dumb cunt.
Post by: Himu on August 04, 2018, 05:19:58 PM
I had a better defense for Peterson than you ever presented. Please.
Post by: Assimilate on August 04, 2018, 05:21:42 PM
:hehWhat was your defense? I did'n't read it because you tend to type too much shit in one post.
I had a better defense for Peterson than you ever presented. Please.
Post by: Himu on August 04, 2018, 05:24:09 PM
:hehWhat was your defense? I did'n't read it because you tend to type too much shit in one post.
I had a better defense for Peterson than you ever presented. Please.
Can't read 22 pages much less one post. :wag
Post by: Assimilate on August 04, 2018, 05:24:47 PM
Yeah keep it short and sweet bitch. Geez.:hehWhat was your defense? I did'n't read it because you tend to type too much shit in one post.
I had a better defense for Peterson than you ever presented. Please.
Can't read 22 pages much less one post. :wag
Post by: agrajag on August 04, 2018, 05:24:50 PM
:dunno
Post by: Himu on August 04, 2018, 05:31:18 PM
Yeah keep it short and sweet bitch. Geez.:hehWhat was your defense? I did'n't read it because you tend to type too much shit in one post.
I had a better defense for Peterson than you ever presented. Please.
Can't read 22 pages much less one post. :wag
:uguu
Thank you for accepting my gender
Post by: Oblivion on August 04, 2018, 05:37:53 PM
A minor update on something from the prior Wank Dad thread:
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/8/3/17644180/political-correctness-free-speech-liberal-data-georgetownQuoteBut a brand new data analysis from Georgetown University’s Free Speech Project suggests that this “crisis” is more than a little overblown. There have been relatively few incidents of speech being squelched on college campuses, and there’s in fact limited evidence that conservatives are being unfairly targeted.
The Free Speech Project’s researchers have cataloged more than 90 incidents since 2016 that fit their criteria for a person’s free speech rights being threatened. Of those 90, about two-thirds took place on college campuses. These incidents range from a speaker being disinvited to a faculty member being fired over allegedly offensive comments to a student-run play being canceled over concerns it would offend.
The raw numbers here should already raise questions about the so-called political correctness epidemic. According to the Department of Education, there are 4,583 colleges and universities in the United States (including two- and four-year institutions). The fact that there were roughly only 60 incidents in the past two years suggests that free speech crises are extremely rare events and don’t define university life in the way that critics suggest.
Moreover, there’s a consistent pattern in the data when it comes to conservatives — one that tells a different story than you hear among free speech panickers.
“Most of the incidents where presumptively conservative speech has been interrupted or squelched in the last two or three years seem to involve the same few speakers: Milo Yiannopoulos, Ben Shapiro, Charles Murray, and Ann Coulter ,” Sanford Ungar, the Free Speech Project’s director, writes. “In some instances, they seem to invite, and delight in, disruption.”
What Ungar is suggesting here is that the “campus free speech” crisis is somewhat manufactured. Conservative student groups invite speakers famous for offensive and racially charged speech — all of the above speakers fit that bill — in a deliberate attempt to provoke the campus left. In other words, they’re trolling. When students react by protesting or disrupting the event, the conservatives use it as proof that there’s real intolerance for conservative ideas.
The other key thing that emerges from the Georgetown data, according to Ungar, is that these protests and disruptions don’t just target the right. “Our data also include many incidents, generally less well-publicized, where lower-profile scholars, speakers, or students who could be considered to be on the left have been silenced or shut down,” he writes.
Examples include Princeton professor Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor’s commencement speech being canceled after receiving death threats for criticizing President Donald Trump and the president of Sonoma State University apologizing for allowing a black student to read a poem critical of police violence at commencement.
There’s little reason, according to Ungar, to conclude from any of this that conservative views are uniquely unwelcome on campus.
“One among many untested concepts,” he writes, “is whether the survey results would be different if conservative student groups, instead of repeatedly inviting campus visitors who have built a brand of disruption, were to sponsor serious intellectual dialogue with thinkers on the right.”QuoteThe pro-free speech Foundation for Individual Rights in Education keeps a database of speaker disinvitations from campuses. It finds only a handful of disinvitations — somewhere between 20 and 42 — in every year between 2011 and 2017. The highest single-year spike, from 21 in 2015 to 42 in 2016, is mostly the work of one provocateur launching an intentionally inflammatory college tour.
“11 of the 42 disinvitations were for a single speaker: Breitbart editor and right-wing provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos,” FIRE’s Alex Morey writes. “His controversial ‘Dangerous Feggot Tour’ traveled to colleges across the country this year and seemed to prompt a new report of attempted censorship in some form or another each week.”
Well I for one never expected that such a "crisis" would be overly one sided and fought by people with less than pure hearts.
Post by: team filler on August 04, 2018, 06:30:10 PM
It warms me up inside that some of you keep Daddy P so close to your hearts. I wish etoilet could see this, there's multiple strong threads going on right now.etiolate da god is watching over us all with a smile, bless up :rejoice
We got it Daddy up in here at thebore etoilet.
:uguu
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 29, 2018, 12:46:25 PM
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Post by: Brehvolution on August 29, 2018, 12:57:39 PM
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/08/the-peterson-family-meat-cleanse/567613/
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“I’m certainly intellectually at my best,” he said. “I’m stronger, I can swim better, and my gum disease is gone. It’s like, what the hell?”
“Do you take any vitamins?” asked Rogan.
“No. No, I eat beef and salt and water. That’s it. And I never cheat. Ever. Not even a little bit.”
“No soda, no wine?”
“I drink club soda.”
“Well, that’s still water.”
“Well, when you’re down to that level, no, it’s not, Joe. There’s club soda, which is really bubbly. There’s Perrier, which is sort of bubbly. There’s flat water, and there’s hot water. Those distinctions start to become important.”
:badass
What a glorious mind.
Post by: Rufus on August 29, 2018, 01:00:18 PM
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“I didn’t sleep that month for 25 days. I didn’t sleep at all for 25 days.”You have to interpret this as hyperbole, but then you'd be 'unfairly distorting' his statement. Dilemmas, dilemmas.
“What? How is that possible?”
“I’ll tell you how it’s possible: You lay in bed frozen in something approximating terror for eight hours. And then you get up.”
The longest recorded stretch of sleeplessness in a human is 11 days, witnessed by a Stanford research team.
Post by: Brehvolution on August 29, 2018, 02:09:41 PM
If he thinks it, everyone else should too.
If a diet or regiment works for him, everyone should do it.
If he doesn't like something, nobody else should.
It's just another bog standard conservative egotist.
Post by: Assimilate on August 29, 2018, 04:34:25 PM
I do know some people that can't consume other foods like normal people, i know people that can't eat red meat because they can't digest it, so it's in the realm of possibility that this bitch can't eat much else outside of meats and other things.
But yeah, the diet is fucking stupid and she'll be the downfall of Daddy P
Post by: agrajag on August 29, 2018, 04:37:11 PM
Post by: Assimilate on August 29, 2018, 04:40:02 PM
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But yeah, the diet is fucking stupid and she'll be the downfall of Daddy P
Surprise surprise, Assy isn't sperging out over Daddy P's r-tarded eating habits like he does with vegans and vegetarians.
Can you not fucking read? Don't be stupid. We don't need another autisty beak around here. We already have Mr. Beaks.
Post by: agrajag on August 29, 2018, 04:41:15 PM
:umad
Post by: Assimilate on August 29, 2018, 04:43:08 PM
You fucking suck at being Zen.
:umad
I'm actually very zen right now. If you could see me, you'd understand.
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Post by: agrajag on August 29, 2018, 04:44:33 PM
Post by: team filler on August 29, 2018, 06:02:04 PM
Post by: Mandark on August 29, 2018, 06:03:51 PM
I'm actually very zen right now. If you could see me, you'd understand.
https://twitter.com/dril/status/549425182767861760
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on August 29, 2018, 06:44:30 PM
BTW, this digression makes me glad I studied actually useful things in university like Mu'tazila theology, memes in the People's Republic of China, and a form of Arabic no one speaks outside of a news broadcast.
Check your PMs, I've got some memes I want to go viral in China and I need to know your rates
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 29, 2018, 06:53:48 PM
You fucking suck at being Zen.
:umad
I'm actually very zen right now. If you could see me, you'd understand.spoiler (click to show/hide)filler we need a zen emoji[close]
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Post by: Assimilate on August 29, 2018, 07:03:54 PM
Post by: Mandark on August 30, 2018, 06:32:09 PM
Quote from: Shostakovich
Quote from: MandarkEh, I think it's pretty clear from his own words that the "ultimate sentiment" is him being bothered by the message of female independence.No I don't think that's it at all. He said he likesMulanMoana a lot and that that does female independence really well because it's a "balanced story", although I forget what he means by it. If I were being uncharitable to him I'd say he's really just miffed that it was her sister who "awakened" her, not the prince, because that was the archetype he recognizes. Aka a little male fragility :lol
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiawSBRVAAAKmUv.jpg)
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 30, 2018, 07:56:59 PM
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Post by: benjipwns on August 31, 2018, 03:44:11 AM
or maybe make a thread about it, use his malicious connections to have the scandal ridden admins/mods sticky it, then lock it
there's still plenty of time for this horsefucker to sew some more bad faith into the forum
Post by: Oblivion on August 31, 2018, 04:21:04 AM
JP sucks and is an undeniable sexist, I think that's pretty clear by now
so why did you keep defending him
Post by: agrajag on August 31, 2018, 04:29:02 AM
Post by: benjipwns on August 31, 2018, 04:37:17 AM
This was either right before or right after he had that fight with that BBC woman. Then he cried about freedom.
I still did not see him transitioning into the YouTube conservosphere at all. Let alone that he'd appear with Ben Shapiro in Dave Rubin's living room set eventually. Or save millions of men's lives.
But in all honestly, I'm glad Daddy P came into my life. I would have never considered the difficulties that swamp witches and kings who live in desiccated castles face in today's world. It's now part of my revolutionary agenda to rescue these souls.
Post by: Oblivion on August 31, 2018, 04:49:23 AM
I still did not see him transitioning into the YouTube conservosphere at all.
Really?
Post by: benjipwns on August 31, 2018, 04:50:48 AM
One of the other Daddy P supporters at the start of it is hungrynoob and we know where he went.
And then of course there was The GOAT and we can't expect anyone to be that perfect from the very start:
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Correction: I don't lose arguments. I lose patience. The argument rarely exists and only briefly exists when it does.
I got naff to actually respond to something said. I explain it. Explaining it reveals how much of the forum doesn't understand social norms. (The argument started and ended right there. "It's over." -Vince Carter) Most conversations don't even get that far.
The forum thinks due to its lack of self awareness that its someone like Peterson who is the social abnormality. They go back to a life where they are ostracized but lack the tools to recognize this. They come back to this online space where they don't get ostracized because ostracization and repercussion is removed by the nature of the format. Mistake the forum for reaffirmation of their rightness. This is essentially an argument about the dangers of social media. Boundaries cannot exist in the same way so they aren't developed. Cruelty becomes more common.
A certain part of the forum I have enough experience with to not even offer the initial civility. I do this on purpose as to mark them as bad. This is self preservation and social messaging. I waste less of my thoughts on the worst and I inform in a public way who to avoid.
When I say it's bad to constantly exist in the peanut gallery, that's not just some wild random thought. To participate in certain discussions you need to be able to recognize those discussions and know how to change gears. We develop boundaries to have various levels of engagement. It is important to have these different gears. If you can only exist n mockery then you get left behind.
Post by: benjipwns on August 31, 2018, 04:53:12 AM
I always underguess the popular lifespans of these people. I thought he'd kinda float back up to Canada after he moved too afar afield from his trans talk due to a market glut. Especially since early on he was really careful not to hop into literally everything even in the culture wars, now he's even commenting on immigration economics and shit.I still did not see him transitioning into the YouTube conservosphere at all.Really?
Post by: Oblivion on August 31, 2018, 05:06:42 AM
Post by: benjipwns on August 31, 2018, 05:18:47 AM
Post by: Mandark on August 31, 2018, 07:40:04 AM
In full disclosure: I think I have a post or two where I remarked that I thought Daddy P was getting into subjects without taking the time to study them and making himself look stupid, and that I assumed he was fine within his field and things he actually researched.
This was either right before or right after he had that fight with that BBC woman. Then he cried about freedom.
I still did not see him transitioning into the YouTube conservosphere at all. Let alone that he'd appear with Ben Shapiro in Dave Rubin's living room set eventually. Or save millions of men's lives.
You have a tendency of over-complicating things and outsmarting yourself as a result.
He got famous by acting like a martyr over pronouns. He uploaded a 2 1/2 hour video called "Identity politics and the Marxist lie of white privilege" last year. This was destiny.
Post by: benjipwns on August 31, 2018, 07:59:10 AM
Post by: Assimilate on September 02, 2018, 09:00:35 PM
Man, this is wonderful. Now the Daddy P's sexy crazy daughter is in the limelight. Fuck you haters.
:rejoice
Post by: Oblivion on September 02, 2018, 09:15:04 PM
Post by: Assimilate on September 02, 2018, 09:16:25 PM
Didn't you already comment on that on the last page, Assimilate? :dogeNot with the Rogan interview link, no. :-*
Post by: benjipwns on September 21, 2018, 05:03:56 AM
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In June, he threatened to sue Down Girl author and Cornell University assistant professor Kate Manne for defamation, after she criticized his book, 12 Rules For Life, and more generally called his work misogynistic in an interview with Vox. (Peterson previously filed a lawsuit against a university whose faculty members, in a closed-door meeting, argued that showing his videos in a classroom created an unsafe environment for students.) In letters to Manne, Cornell, and Vox, Peterson’s lawyer, Howard Levitt, demanded that all three parties “immediately retract all of Professor Manne’s defamatory statements, have them immediately removed from the internet, and issue an apology in the same forum to Mr. Peterson. Otherwise, our client will take all steps necessary to protect his professional reputation, including but not limited to initiating legal proceedings against all of you for damages.” (You can read the full letter below).
Among the statements Levitt objected to: Manne’s contention that Peterson’s book included “some really eyebrow-raising, authoritarian-sounding, and even cruel things,” as well as her observation that “it doesn’t seem accidental that [Peterson’s] skepticism about objective facts arises when it’s conveniently anti-feminist.” The lawyer and his client were equally unhappy with this line: “I also suspect that for many of Peterson’s readers, the sexism on display above is one tool among many to make forceful, domineering moves that are typical of misogyny.”
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Levitt, not surprisingly, disagreed. There’s a difference, he said in an email, between academic debate and “viciously libelling [Peterson] by referring to him as a misogynist, as dishonest, by impugning his honesty and integrity.” Viewing the legal threat as an attempt to shut down the conversation, he continued, would only “encourage the radical left practitioners of identity politics to avoid such debate by castigating our client with libellous false aspersions to avoid engaging in the constitutionally protected (and desired) clash of ideas.”
Levitt also represents Peterson in his defamation suit against Wilfred Laurier University, in which he’s demanded $1.5 million in damages from the school and three faculty members over a meeting in which they chastised a teaching assistant for showing a communications class one of Peterson’s videos. The school has since apologized to the TA, whom Levitt is also representing in her own lawsuit.
“I’m hoping that the combination of lawsuits will be enough to convince careless university professors and administrators blinded by their own ideology to be much more circumspect in their actions and their words,” Peterson opined in a YouTube video.
Post by: chronovore on September 21, 2018, 05:41:42 AM
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Post by: Brehvolution on September 21, 2018, 11:26:33 AM
"You not believing my bullshit is a violation of my rights!"
:snob
Post by: Assimilate on September 21, 2018, 01:24:47 PM
When are you stupid fucks going to realize slapping someone with labels like racists, nazi, and so on isn't actual criticism. It's fucking slander. You are purposely trying to damage someone's reputation.
WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW
college intellectual mentality:
:six:
his arguments offend me let's destroy his career!!! Oh no he's suing me, but but but but my free speech!
Oh, wait someone is coming on campus to have a civil discussion on a panel??? BRING OUT THE BLOW HORNS!!! LET's protest to shut him down!!!!
:reeeee
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 21, 2018, 01:27:20 PM
WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW
Only if it's not true. :doge
Post by: Assimilate on September 21, 2018, 01:51:44 PM
By my understanding of the law, and i can be wrong here, if he's being defamed by another professor or someone in academia and it hurts his academic career he in fact does have grounds to sue.You guys are idiots. That's not criticism.
When are you stupid fucks going to realize slapping someone with labels like racists, nazi, and so on isn't actual criticism. It's fucking slander. You are purposely trying to damage someone's reputation.
Opinions can't be defemation; calling someone racist or misogynist doesn't count. Maybe stupid shit like "literal nazi" could get you in trouble though.
Winning it or not is another matter and since he's a public figure now then it could be harder.
Post by: Mandark on September 21, 2018, 01:55:56 PM
When are you stupid fucks going to realize slapping someone with labels like racists, nazi, and so on isn't actual criticism. It's fucking slander. You are purposely trying to damage someone's reputation.
Peterson called Pankaj Mishra a "racist" after Mishra wrote a harsh review of Peterson in NYRB.
Post by: Mandark on September 21, 2018, 02:01:11 PM
Post by: Assimilate on September 21, 2018, 02:04:41 PM
And here is the problem. The left will call anyone they disagree with a "racist" and immediately attempt to get that person fired for baseless accusations. The object of the game is to ruin the careers of anyone you disagree with.By my understanding of the law, and i can be wrong here, if he's being defamed by another professor or someone in academia and it hurts his academic career he in fact does have grounds to sue.You guys are idiots. That's not criticism.
When are you stupid fucks going to realize slapping someone with labels like racists, nazi, and so on isn't actual criticism. It's fucking slander. You are purposely trying to damage someone's reputation.
Opinions can't be defemation; calling someone racist or misogynist doesn't count. Maybe stupid shit like "literal nazi" could get you in trouble though.
Winning it or not is another matter and since he's a public figure now then it could be harder.
It has to be statements that can be proven right or wrong; claiming he did something he didn't do, etc.
Calling a book or a person racist or misogynist can't be proven wrong, it's an opinion.
People who can't tell the difference are literally stupid. Perhaps they did make statements that are factual, I don't know the case(s), but if they didn't the cases will just be thrown out.
This whole thing is ugly.
Post by: Mandark on September 21, 2018, 02:05:53 PM
Post by: Assimilate on September 21, 2018, 02:15:48 PM
cry more
(https://i.imgur.com/hJW0zfo.jpg)
Sorry can't hear you
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 21, 2018, 02:38:42 PM
Post by: Assimilate on September 21, 2018, 02:43:13 PM
lol you don't even read this guy's books bro
(https://i.imgur.com/hJW0zfo.jpg)
huh? what you say?
Post by: agrajag on September 21, 2018, 03:36:00 PM
Post by: Rufus on September 22, 2018, 05:21:25 AM
BUT, guess who I found!? :gladbron
https://www.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/9hk200/jordan_peterson_threatened_to_sue_feminist_critic/e6cjhdz/
Mmm~
https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/9gjhsf/ethics_tim_pool_joe_rogan_accused_of_promoting/e65gic1/
Not as much activity on the Peterson sub as I would have expected. And all in all quite boring to be honest. :goty2
https://www.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/99kloq/rowan_atkinson_on_free_speech_in_uk/e4ohnz0/?context=0
:rofl
Like a defamation lawsuit you're not expecting to win? :ryker
https://www.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/9632y0/why_do_the_people_who_hate_jordan_peterson_so/e3ygb77/
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Peterson lives in a lot of people's heads rent-free. They become obsessed with him because they can't resolve the conflict that he produces inside of them.Rawr!
If you poke that part of another person that is weak and exposed unbeknownst to them then they will get conflicted, angry at the conflicted feeling and proceed to hate you in an obsessive manner.
https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/95h4pn/we_didnt_listen/e3ua7i9/?context=0
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Alex needs to come on the Rogan show soon. Not because I'm a fan, but to piss of YT and the chapodoodles.But then this. :lol
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https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1043057116695556096
Google is part of the government? Why do some people insist on elevating a corporations' advertising platform to a public space. It's a stupid idea, guys.
Post by: agrajag on September 22, 2018, 11:05:23 AM
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 22, 2018, 11:19:55 AM
:neogaf
Post by: Transhuman on September 22, 2018, 11:34:34 AM
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on September 22, 2018, 12:46:53 PM
Post by: Oblivion on September 22, 2018, 04:55:28 PM
"treason"
:neogaf
"The most intelligent conservative intellectual in the Western Hemisphere!" (tm)
Post by: Mandark on September 22, 2018, 06:43:45 PM
Why is thread called Wank Dad?
Intellectual Dark Web
Intellectual Dank Wad
Intellectual Wank Dad
Post by: team filler on September 23, 2018, 04:47:29 AM
Post by: benjipwns on September 23, 2018, 05:02:35 AM
Post by: benjipwns on September 23, 2018, 05:04:44 AM
https://twitter.com/rachel_garniss/status/1043143298653638656
Post by: agrajag on September 23, 2018, 11:13:33 AM
Wait, so what does that make Dave Rubin?
Amir0x
Post by: Assimilate on September 23, 2018, 11:46:12 AM
:heart
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Post by: benjipwns on November 12, 2018, 01:18:29 AM
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The Voice of the ‘Intellectual Dark Web’
Claire Lehmann’s online magazine, Quillette, prides itself on publishing ‘dangerous’ ideas other outlets won’t touch. How far is it willing to go?
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One evening this fall at a house in West Hollywood, the Australian editor and writer Claire Lehmann had dinner with the neuroscientist Sam Harris and Eric Weinstein, the managing director of tech entrepreneur Peter Thiel’s investment firm. Joe Rogan, the podcast host, joined later on, when the group decamped to a comedy club.
You could think of the gathering as a board meeting of sorts for the “intellectual dark web,” or IDW, a loose cadre of academics, journalists and tech entrepreneurs who view themselves as standing up to the knee-jerk left-leaning politics of academia and the media.
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Over steaks, Lehmann recalls, the conversation revolved around a brewing academic scandal, a prank engineered by friends of hers. They had successfully placed seven nonsensical research papers in various academic journals devoted to what they characterized as “grievance studies.” One of the papers included a lengthy passage from Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf, rewritten to focus on feminism and intersectionality. Another was about rape culture in dog parks. Absurd as the papers were, they had been accepted by expert editors and published as serious research. For those in attendance, it was a ringing confirmation of just how politicized academia had become, and how blindly devoted to fashionable moralities.
It was also a big story for Quillette, the online magazine Lehmann runs and the unofficial digest of the IDW. Lehmann had known about the prank before the Wall Street Journal broke the news, and she had some time to formulate a response that would fan the flames. “I wanted the public to be aware that there are many people within the academy who are fed up with grievance studies scholarship,” says Lehmann, who went on to publish responses from five like-minded academics—one of whom called the incident “a Cultural Revolution in our own backyard.”
For readers and thinkers who regard themselves as intellectually curious but feel alienated from the lock-step politics of universities and the broader left, Quillette has become a haven for stories like this—and topics treated as taboo elsewhere. At times, it has drawn intense social media backlash, with contributors labeled everything from “clowns” to “cryptofascists” on Twitter. But fans of the site include pop psychologist Jordan Peterson, evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins, psychology professors Steven Pinker of Harvard and Jonathan Haidt of New York University, and columnists like David Brooks, Meghan Daum and Andrew Sullivan. “I continue to be impressed that Quillette publishes heterodox but intellectually serious and non-inflammatory pieces [about] ideas that have become near-taboo in academic and intellectual discourse,” Pinker wrote to me in an email, “including ones connected to heritability, sex and sex differences, race, culture, Islam, free speech and violence.” Haidt, co-author of the recent book The Coddling of the American Mind, called Quillette in an email “a gathering place for people who love to play with ideas and hate being told that there are ideas they are not supposed to play with.”
Post by: benjipwns on November 12, 2018, 01:33:50 AM
Where, it's not. It's new writers rehashing the same old tropes. Look at the list Pinker gives "heritability, sex and sex differences, race, culture, Islam, free speech and violence." They're producing exactly what Sullivan's New Republic was lamented for ultimately, an upper class salon for views ever so slightly out of the mainstream but definitely out of the academic mainstream that never want to grapple with conclusions and instead just continue "asking questions." While handwaiving a lot of the critiques by saying "oh, I'm on the left economically" or "I support LGBT" or whatever. That ultimately stops any actual exploration of a heterodox that goes beyond their own special circle.
Maybe it'll change now it's become popular and apparently is being well funded. But I wonder if that will make it more willing to let in more heterodox views even if to challenge them, or if it'll close it up to that squalid list of tropes.
Post by: chronovore on November 12, 2018, 09:08:52 AM
Daddy P has been dethroned folks AND BY A WOMAN:
Just like every major cultural event for straight white males they had to REBOOT IT WITH A WOMAN.
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Post by: Mandark on November 13, 2018, 08:42:02 PM
As a major supporter of any kind of "heterodox" or "revisionist" publishing/journals/etc. I forgot to put this in the argument with Assi back before he was killed by Jair Bosonaro supporters. It's that Quillette is exactly the Peterson, Brooks, Sullivan, etc. type of "edgy" "heterodox" writing that well, Sullivan himself is infamous for promoting at a prior job.
Where, it's not. It's new writers rehashing the same old tropes. Look at the list Pinker gives "heritability, sex and sex differences, race, culture, Islam, free speech and violence." They're producing exactly what Sullivan's New Republic was lamented for ultimately, an upper class salon for views ever so slightly out of the mainstream but definitely out of the academic mainstream that never want to grapple with conclusions and instead just continue "asking questions." While handwaiving a lot of the critiques by saying "oh, I'm on the left economically" or "I support LGBT" or whatever. That ultimately stops any actual exploration of a heterodox that goes beyond their own special circle.
Maybe it'll change now it's become popular and apparently is being well funded. But I wonder if that will make it more willing to let in more heterodox views even if to challenge them, or if it'll close it up to that squalid list of tropes.
Yup.
It's really striking how much of the IDW/Quillette stuff is just rehashing the sort of contrarian centrism that was the staple of TNR and Slate in the 90's and 00's. The fact that basically everyone doing that schtick also was deeply wrong in Iraq probably inoculated me against it.
They're only really "heterodox" against a sort of academic, op-ed liberalism that doesn't really wield all that much power, so the fights they wind up picking seem even more petty and cloistered. I can't imagine spending any amount of time with normal people and thinking the real threat to society is not enough people accepting gender differences or giving race science a fair shake. It's kind of the highbrow version of "nobody's allowed to say Merry Christmas anymore!"
Post by: Mandark on November 13, 2018, 08:54:10 PM
I'll say this in Peterson's favor: he's a huge fuckin' weirdo instead of being boring like the rest of them. He's the Hunter S. Thompson of David Brookses.
Post by: shosta on November 13, 2018, 09:12:29 PM
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In my dream, I wrestled my opponent to the ground. He was still talking, mindlessly, mechanically, rapidly, nonstop. I bent his wrists to force his knuckles into his mouth. His arms bent like rubber and, even though I managed the task, he did not stop babbling.why would you share this with other people
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Wasn’t all the money I was making from my book and tour merely evidence that I had found a weak spot in desperate young men and exploiting them shamelessly?narrator: it was
Post by: naff on November 13, 2018, 09:30:14 PM
loved the conclusion - returning home shook to his wife asleep trying to shake a persistent cold and going out to eat a steak. his persistent diet of beef, seemingly chosen because he swallowed the pseudo science peddled by his daughter regarding a cure for his intractable auto-immune disorder.
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Post by: Mandark on November 13, 2018, 09:35:46 PM
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on November 13, 2018, 09:54:40 PM
Yup.
It's really striking how much of the IDW/Quillette stuff is just rehashing the sort of contrarian centrism that was the staple of TNR and Slate in the 90's and 00's. The fact that basically everyone doing that schtick also was deeply wrong in Iraq probably inoculated me against it.
Yeah I read a lot of TNR as a teenager and it kind of warped my sensibilities for a while, Iraq mostly cured me of it eventually
Post by: curly on November 13, 2018, 10:05:56 PM
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He considered himself a liberal, meaning someone attracted by the more radical end of the left:neogaf
These people are totally clueless about the political spectrum beyond Paul Krugman.
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I hadn’t spent two hours talking to a person. The person wasn’t there, or was barely there (even though the journalist had the makings, I would say, of a fine young man). I couldn’t reach him. Instead, I had a very irritating discussion with an ideologically possessed puppet and that was both too familiar and too unpleasant.
this is the same thinking behind the npc meme
Post by: Brehvolution on November 14, 2018, 09:19:22 AM
QuoteIn my dream, I wrestled my opponent to the ground. He was still talking, mindlessly, mechanically, rapidly, nonstop. I bent his wrists to force his knuckles into his mouth. His arms bent like rubber and, even though I managed the task, he did not stop babbling.why would you share this with other people
True narcissists want you to know everything their brain cooks up. Even their dreams have meaning.
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But only to them :shh
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Post by: jakefromstatefarm on November 15, 2018, 01:14:10 AM
Jesus he’s a terrible writer.i think I’ve talked about this here with benji before, a major stylistic thread that runs through the idealistic/romantic right, and especially it’s more online elements, is the complete mangling of figurative language. Like you get these passages that are so deliberately baroque, but it’s by people who’s idea of prose was shaped more by obsidian rpgs than the western canon. In Peterson’s case, I think he sounds like he’s larping Zarathustra.
:sabuhes got a shtick where he paints him and those close to him as people of unusually frail constitution. Fwiw, it’s funny and discouraging that the idw’s dream daddy is such a neurotic whiner
loved the conclusion - returning home shook to his wife asleep trying to shake a persistent cold and going out to eat a steak. his persistent diet of beef, seemingly chosen because he swallowed the pseudo science peddled by his daughter regarding a cure for his intractable auto-immune disorder.
Post by: Mandark on November 16, 2018, 02:53:32 AM
i think I’ve talked about this here with benji before, a major stylistic thread that runs through the idealistic/romantic right, and especially it’s more online elements, is the complete mangling of figurative language. Like you get these passages that are so deliberately baroque, but it’s by people who’s idea of prose was shaped more by obsidian rpgs than the western canon. In Peterson’s case, I think he sounds like he’s larping Zarathustra.
https://twitter.com/normmacdonald/status/1063035767889383425
Post by: benjipwns on November 29, 2018, 09:18:50 PM
etoliate help!
Post by: Rufus on November 29, 2018, 10:11:34 PM
Wait, who are we talking about again?
Post by: shosta on November 29, 2018, 10:29:36 PM
Post by: benjipwns on November 29, 2018, 11:14:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx4ltQhdlhg
not exact clip, but conversation regarding Hitler starts at like 51 minutes after they try to think of a country run by sociopaths and can't come up with one until Ethan thinks of the Nazi Party elite...it's a few minutes after that, around 57 minutes or so where the clip conversation starts after a description of the horrors of Zyklon B poisoning...also remember to use your H3H3 code for free shipping on your hats!
also, holy crap, he literally wore the same shirt on both visits which got me to click through a whole other 2 hour podcast video with no mention of Nazi's...who the fuck does he think he is, Ben Shapiro? two Ben Shapiro's? :maf
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Ethan says there were probably good people in Nazi Germany who got ran over, the fucking alt-right shitlord
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Post by: benjipwns on November 29, 2018, 11:18:07 PM
did i know this?
Post by: shosta on November 29, 2018, 11:22:30 PM
Post by: benjipwns on November 29, 2018, 11:28:34 PM
also that fuckin Canadian accent is just spilling out of him, fuckin nazis :yuck
Post by: Mandark on November 29, 2018, 11:29:46 PM
Post by: Kara on November 30, 2018, 12:09:37 AM
Post by: benjipwns on November 30, 2018, 12:17:53 AM
specifically the part where a certain nation or two were basically paying the Germans to pay their reparations to the Treaty Allies to pay back their loans to the first parties...and some countries got in on more than one part of this chain :money
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also that part where they forgot to account for how any significant changes in economic status among the states might alter the setup of the scheme
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Post by: Mandark on December 04, 2018, 01:10:33 AM
Post by: shosta on December 09, 2018, 08:15:30 PM
Actually his whole twitter feed is fire today.https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1070518052108861440
This American right wing grassroots panel or whatever it’s calling itself is lol.
https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1071162678582874112
Post by: Mandark on December 09, 2018, 08:47:46 PM
Post by: benjipwns on December 10, 2018, 02:07:04 AM
wait
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 10, 2018, 12:41:20 PM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on December 14, 2018, 12:16:02 AM
Someone on another forum was pinballing the idea that the French journalist had actually brought up receipts on specific passages/citations. Evidently the French academic culture is such that it encourages deep readings of texts and a French journalist could reasonably be supposed to have a respectable understanding of like, Derrida or whoever. So there was a hope that that the eventual article would have some juicy gotcha moments.https://youtu.be/CzZDed4gEHc
Post by: agrajag on December 15, 2018, 03:31:01 PM
pour one out for our fallen brother etoilet
Post by: benjipwns on December 16, 2018, 12:53:01 AM
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I partly figured these anti-SJW videos were so popular because the titles read like porn
"Superfat Feminist Cuntdevil Goes WILD When Shapiro SLAMS Her Red Hot Mouth with Bulging Words of TRUTH"
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Ben Shapiro COMPLETELY EVISCERATES sjw leftists and FEASTS UPON THEIR DEAD COLD FLESH AND SINEWS with facts and logic
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Ben Shapero HUMILIATES little girl by stealing her candy and making her cry
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Ben Shapiro DESTROYS my sandcastle I spent ALL DAY making!
Post by: benjipwns on December 18, 2018, 06:38:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ftaltfEdEo
h/t Crash Dummy
Post by: benjipwns on December 18, 2018, 06:43:19 AM
Post by: Crash Dummy on December 18, 2018, 07:18:46 AM
Post by: benjipwns on December 18, 2018, 07:24:26 AM
*He may mean Maps of Meaning because I heard him say this in the past before the 12 steps self-help book came out.
Post by: benjipwns on December 18, 2018, 07:35:37 AM
Which is more or less the argument we had here with etoliate and then Assi. :lol
Post by: Crash Dummy on December 18, 2018, 07:43:28 AM
Post by: benjipwns on December 18, 2018, 10:33:26 AM
Part of the problem with Zizek is that some of his politics stuff is more of a hobby than his formal work which is more around theory and ideology, in terms of Marxism there's probably easier people to debate and more specifically in terms of what Peterson wants to talk about there has to be far better choices. The problem would be of course than Peterson is a clinical psychologist dipping his toe into political theory because he has a Grand Theory of the Universe he's trying to put together. But you can tell that's what draws Zizek's attention in regards to Peterson, his Grand Theory blaming "Cultural Marxism" for all evils.
I guess I'd be more interested in seeing Peterson ram headlong into a political history wall.
Post by: agrajag on December 18, 2018, 10:50:06 AM
https://youtu.be/BgIz49hbjto
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on December 18, 2018, 12:14:07 PM
Post by: Momo on December 18, 2018, 02:12:46 PM
Post by: Mandark on December 18, 2018, 02:14:48 PM
Post by: benjipwns on December 19, 2018, 05:27:17 AM
I'm on a new browser so I can finally see this thread again (thanks tasty! :heart) why is it still a thing, has a new son of Peter fan sprung into existence from the ashes of a Bible story?Look, it's always kinda been us (...me) posting crappy things in the world of the Wank Dad, it's just we had people who would take up the flag before and hand out L's. Now us Marxist cowards are safe to challenge someone with hundreds of published papers without threat.
Plus we have the ongoing saga of him withering away because he's taken up his daughters "fad" diet.
Post by: benjipwns on December 19, 2018, 05:40:34 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/D0bDzVk4/vape.png)
Post by: agrajag on December 19, 2018, 06:05:03 AM
Post by: benjipwns on December 19, 2018, 06:26:17 AM
Post by: BIONIC on December 19, 2018, 06:41:33 AM
Checks out
Post by: BisMarckie on December 19, 2018, 06:44:26 AM
As I am fair and balanced I will post something positive about Peterson:
(https://i.postimg.cc/D0bDzVk4/vape.png)
:dead
The sad thing is that he is making way more money doing vape hits on a shitty youtube channel than he would if he still was a professor of psychology :stahp
Post by: agrajag on December 19, 2018, 09:42:12 AM
Post by: benjipwns on December 19, 2018, 10:40:57 AM
Post by: chronovore on December 19, 2018, 11:26:57 AM
Post by: benjipwns on December 19, 2018, 12:46:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqmUcCoSJ14
Post by: Mandark on December 21, 2018, 06:51:45 PM
Is this guy a member in good standing of the club of fearless online autodidacts?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on December 21, 2018, 06:56:28 PM
OH THATS PETER NVM
Post by: curly on December 22, 2018, 03:27:37 AM
Post by: shosta on December 22, 2018, 03:46:56 AM
Post by: agrajag on December 22, 2018, 07:11:13 AM
The youtube algorithm is crazy. I haven't clicked on a Peterson vid in months and I never watch hard-right stuff and I'm still getting recommended "Stefan Molyneux talks about Race and IQ" and "How Ben Shapiro DOMINATES debates" Saying you're not interested in the video also appears to do nothing.
It recommends based on the subject, not on content. So if uou ever watched a video that is on the opposite ideological side of the spectrum from Molineux but covers some of the same topics he does, you might get a recommendation.
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on December 22, 2018, 01:28:40 PM
Chrome: Hbomb's YouTube Censorship Addon (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hbombs-youtube-censorship/djhicpapmcmjabcmkdecglggplpnmkid)
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 22, 2018, 01:30:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN0REjUCGlE
Chrome: Hbomb's YouTube Censorship Addon (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hbombs-youtube-censorship/djhicpapmcmjabcmkdecglggplpnmkid)
I just want a Chrome extension that blocks ads from Prager U.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on December 22, 2018, 01:46:56 PM
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on December 22, 2018, 01:49:49 PM
Post by: Mandark on December 22, 2018, 02:53:17 PM
Actually you'll find that Google's algorithms haven't been a big driver of traffic to them, but are actually a conspiracy to keep them down.
These dudes would never have survived the link economy of the 2000's blogosphere.
Post by: agrajag on December 22, 2018, 03:34:53 PM
Post by: curly on December 22, 2018, 04:05:08 PM
Post by: Yeti on December 22, 2018, 04:41:11 PM
Post by: Crash Dummy on December 23, 2018, 01:12:45 AM
The youtube algorithm is crazy. I haven't clicked on a Peterson vid in months and I never watch hard-right stuff and I'm still getting recommended "Stefan Molyneux talks about Race and IQ" and "How Ben Shapiro DOMINATES debates" Saying you're not interested in the video also appears to do nothing.it's fucking annoying, i watched the jp channel 4 interview months ago and no matter what video i'm watching at the bottom i get the gq interview under next videos
Post by: Mandark on December 24, 2018, 12:39:06 AM
:spin
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 24, 2018, 01:24:59 AM
Post by: Mandark on December 24, 2018, 01:12:23 PM
Post by: shosta on December 26, 2018, 06:10:00 PM
Post by: agrajag on December 27, 2018, 08:25:35 PM
Charlie Kirk and Jr are like "how the fuck do we get out of here?"
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dvc0z_iUwAASVzw.jpg)
Post by: benjipwns on December 29, 2018, 09:30:00 AM
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on December 31, 2018, 09:18:56 PM
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on December 31, 2018, 11:03:45 PM
https://twitter.com/_Herbalis_/status/1074944713663410181
Post by: benjipwns on December 31, 2018, 11:08:01 PM
Post by: thisismyusername on December 31, 2018, 11:57:19 PM
oh hey Mandark, since you're here, you might enjoy this other twitter thread (click thru, it gets better from here)
https://twitter.com/_Herbalis_/status/1074944713663410181
OH MY GOD, thank you for this at the end of the year. This is the best thing I've seen.
Post by: Mandark on January 01, 2019, 12:14:11 AM
I saw that when it was posted, didn't like or bookmark it, and then couldn't find it again. Bless up.
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on January 02, 2019, 12:51:16 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 02, 2019, 09:04:12 PM
why does he need donations again?
Post by: agrajag on January 02, 2019, 09:08:17 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 02, 2019, 09:13:19 PM
Post by: shosta on January 02, 2019, 09:24:14 PM
why does he need donations again?Because his psycholiterary analysis of the entire bible, which was supposed to prove that Christianity is the culmination of human spiritual development and western civilization, stopped at the end of... Genesis
and then for the rest of the year he just fucked around with Dave Rubin :doge
Post by: benjipwns on January 02, 2019, 09:26:02 PM
Post by: shosta on January 02, 2019, 09:27:59 PM
Post by: agrajag on January 02, 2019, 09:32:17 PM
https://youtu.be/dL3Hrwg3A3w
Post by: benjipwns on January 02, 2019, 09:41:01 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 02, 2019, 09:41:30 PM
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:phil
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Post by: agrajag on January 02, 2019, 09:42:43 PM
crazy women
isn't that a redundancy? :smug :woooo :social
Post by: benjipwns on January 03, 2019, 02:33:22 AM
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on January 03, 2019, 02:17:44 PM
why does he need donations again?Because his psycholiterary analysis of the entire bible, which was supposed to prove that Christianity is the culmination of human spiritual development and western civilization, stopped at the end of... Genesis
and then for the rest of the year he just fucked around with Dave Rubin :doge
I started a livetweet of the bible a couple years back, which lasted for all of two chapters of Genesis, so hey.
Post by: shosta on January 03, 2019, 02:26:18 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 04, 2019, 07:49:45 PM
(https://i0.wp.com/2.bp.blogspot.com/-n9vPPqAZORM/WYtGFj08I9I/AAAAAAAAZkI/JLerUcb2ZQsNoEoTGgXGjCBNxjxTKXi-QCLcBGAs/s1600/Google_Logo.JPG?resize=450%2C151&ssl=1)
Post by: agrajag on January 04, 2019, 08:00:43 PM
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on January 04, 2019, 08:49:11 PM
Please PM me your twitter.
https://twitter.com/crossslide most of it is banal thoughts and RT spam tho
Post by: benjipwns on January 04, 2019, 08:53:13 PM
most of it is banal thoughts and RT spam thoyou already said it's a twitter account
Post by: Rufus on January 04, 2019, 09:14:44 PM
Post by: Mandark on January 05, 2019, 03:00:38 AM
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on January 07, 2019, 03:07:26 AM
Post by: benjipwns on January 08, 2019, 04:37:32 AM
Post by: benjipwns on January 09, 2019, 10:56:29 PM
Post by: Rufus on January 09, 2019, 11:11:18 PM
https://medium.com/incerto/iq-is-largely-a-pseudoscientific-swindle-f131c101ba39
Post by: Oblivion on January 09, 2019, 11:33:23 PM
Our exiled Peterson superfan liked to image that Taleb and Peterson are fans of one another (they very well may be, I have no idea):
https://medium.com/incerto/iq-is-largely-a-pseudoscientific-swindle-f131c101ba39
What's that dude's deal?
Post by: Mandark on January 09, 2019, 11:34:26 PM
Was this dude always like this, or did he keep it under wraps better? Cause I had the impression that he was generally in good standing with the wank dad society (though on the spicier end of the spectrum), doing podcasts with Peterson and Rubin etc, but now it feels like I'm seeing a couple screenshots of him saying shit like this every week.
Post by: shosta on January 09, 2019, 11:39:47 PM
Post by: Oblivion on January 09, 2019, 11:40:07 PM
Post by: shosta on January 09, 2019, 11:41:24 PM
EDIT: From 2014:
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Molyneux said that because 90% of a child’s brain is formed by the experiences it has before the age of 5, and women have “an almost universal control over childhood,” violence exists in the world because of the way women treat children.
“If we could just get people to be nice to their babies for five years straight, that would be it for war, drug abuse, addiction, promiscuity, sexually transmitted diseases,” he said. “Almost all would be completely eliminated, because they all arise from dysfunctional early childhood experiences, which are all run by women.”
EDIT: lol'd at this one:
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/886710167794061312
Post by: Mandark on January 09, 2019, 11:46:21 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 10, 2019, 12:20:17 AM
I haven't probably watched one of his videos in at least that long so I don't know if he's gotten worse, or into more alt-right/MRA stuff. Last one I did, I remember he was completely misunderstanding some basic libertarian point (ala something a "philosopher" should know because it's from Mises or Hayek or Rothbard or whatever) while giving an account of history that was less factually wrong than presented so confusingly that it made zero sense, and the video was of course just him sitting in front of a wall so there wasn't actually any kind of well, anything to help you keep track of exactly what he was saying or the order of events or anything .
I do sort of remember my personally lumping him in with the (often Canadian for some reason) Objectivist types, even though I don't think he's an Objectivist, that sees a whole "clash of civilizations" going on and argues that it's not a rights violation to murder people in countries with less rights than the United States/Canada because countries that have more freedom are justified to "liberate" less free countries. It was because he was saying some similar stuff about Muslim countries and Islam. Some other wank dad people like Sargon have occasionally expressed similar sentiments about people who live under Islam.
Post by: benjipwns on January 10, 2019, 12:20:59 AM
Quote from: Stefan Molyneux
What's best for the children is not always what's best for your penis.newsfeed
Post by: benjipwns on January 10, 2019, 12:23:47 AM
Post by: Rufus on January 10, 2019, 12:27:50 AM
What's that dude's deal?He hates "bullshitters" and "Intellectuals Yet Idiots". Steven Pinker, psychologists in general, Monsanto - to name a few. Can be insightful, if difficult to understand. Definitely entertaining though. :lol
Post by: BIONIC on January 10, 2019, 12:33:19 AM
Post by: Rufus on January 10, 2019, 12:55:54 AM
https://twitter.com/davelevitan/status/1082668393512267776 (yeah, it's a thread)
Post by: Mandark on January 10, 2019, 01:33:09 AM
Also I just wondered what Philippe Rushton was up to, since this resurgence in race science should be right up his alley, and it turns out he died in 2012. hahaha
Post by: benjipwns on January 10, 2019, 01:45:23 AM
edit: Actually, perhaps ironically, a center like Boogie gives you arguably the same advantage as that 4-on-5 scheme if he doesn't have to run block to block but instead plays outside. That's why the Bucks can play five out with Brook Lopez, or why Channing Frye is still in the league.
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Post by: curly on January 10, 2019, 02:20:14 AM
I'm sure someone has brought this up, but I was always confused why when that story came out nobody seemed to think the opposing team wouldn't just leave back a defender ala hockey/soccer/etc., especially to potentially front the pass. Instead all the writers seemed to be arguing about the advantage of an extra man on offense, which I think would be less of a problem of having an unguarded man shooting and more of not being able to as easily box out the fifth player. Teams already have plenty of experience guarding possessions with a single weak side man in a zone and two or more offensive players not even involved in it.
edit: Actually, perhaps ironically, a center like Boogie gives you arguably the same advantage as that 4-on-5 scheme if he doesn't have to run block to block but instead plays outside. That's why the Bucks can play five out with Brook Lopez, or why Channing Frye is still in the league.spoiler (click to show/hide):expert[close]
Now I'm having flashbacks to when I used to check up on Dave Berri's blog, where every post was some variation of "Conventional wisdom says that Joel Przybilla is an unremarkable player. This shows that everybody involved in decision-making in the NBA is an idiot, because he has the highest Wins Produced since Dennis Rodman and has single-handedly won 15 games this season."
Post by: benjipwns on January 10, 2019, 02:28:30 AM
BoxScoreGeeks (https://www.boxscoregeeks.com/players?sort=wins_produced&direction=desc&season=1991) has never bothered, even with all their tweaks, to fix their inability to project future wins within a sensible MoE with it.
edit: here's some peak-Joel for ya: https://www.boxscoregeeks.com/players?sort=wins_produced&direction=desc&season=2008
Post by: Mandark on January 10, 2019, 02:33:19 AM
I'm sure someone has brought this up, but I was always confused why when that story came out nobody seemed to think the opposing team wouldn't just leave back a defender ala hockey/soccer/etc., especially to potentially front the pass.
Everybody said this!
Post by: benjipwns on January 10, 2019, 02:35:29 AM
Post by: benjipwns on January 10, 2019, 02:39:11 AM
Quote from: https://www.wnbainsidr.com/insidr/forbes-removes-story-on-increased-investment-into-wnba-after-nba-rebukes
After the story was written, it was published and run on Forbes.com at 9:00 a.m. ET on October 23rd. However, after the NBA complained about the content of Berri’s story to his editors, the story was removed from Forbes’ website shortly after noon on the same day. No one at Forbes edited the piece before it was published, according to Berri.
Berri and Forbes have since parted ways after the article was taken down and not re-run. The two parties were unable to come to an agreement over republishing the story and how it could be further improved and edited for publication.
“The article was removed because it failed to meet Forbes’ strict editorial standards for accuracy and fairness,” Forbes said in a statement to WNBAInsidr. “Specifically, the contributor intentionally omitted facts and context from an authoritative source that would have undermined his thesis. As a result, David Berri was removed as a Forbes contributor.” Berri told WNBAInsidr that the editor at Forbes failed to indicate to him which specific claims made by Berri undermined his argument and what changes needed to be made. Berri said that he asked his editor to make specific changes, and the editor refused.
Post by: Mandark on January 10, 2019, 02:39:36 AM
Post by: benjipwns on January 10, 2019, 02:43:18 AM
Post by: Mandark on January 10, 2019, 02:45:58 AM
It's like when I was reading about the Angry Puppies thing and finally realized that "Theodore Beale" was really just Vox Day.
Post by: benjipwns on January 10, 2019, 06:45:47 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/ishGFMa.jpg)
:lol
Post by: agrajag on January 10, 2019, 06:47:53 AM
Post by: BIONIC on January 10, 2019, 06:53:33 AM
Post by: benjipwns on January 10, 2019, 06:55:54 AM
Post by: agrajag on January 10, 2019, 06:57:24 AM
Is this now the catch-all thread for all the shitheads that use the phrase “the marketplace of ideas” unironically? :bedroomeyes
I don't think there is a single person on the bore that uses marketplace of ideas unironically.
Post by: benjipwns on January 10, 2019, 07:00:51 AM
Quote from: etoliate
There's a You Must Be This Tall To Ride rule about this stuff. You Must Be This Emotionally and Intellectually Mature To Ride the discussion roller coaster. [=- Proceed to emoji your rolleyes and newsfeed here -=]
Post by: BIONIC on January 10, 2019, 07:02:33 AM
Is this now the catch-all thread for all the shitheads that use the phrase “the marketplace of ideas” unironically? :bedroomeyes
I don't think there is a single person on the bore that uses marketplace of ideas unironically.
I mean the “personalities” Benji keeps posting about, not my fellow Boritos.
Post by: agrajag on January 10, 2019, 07:10:11 AM
Post by: Mandark on January 10, 2019, 07:11:23 AM
Post by: benjipwns on January 10, 2019, 07:11:40 AM
Post by: Mandark on January 10, 2019, 07:18:28 AM
I'd like to point out that Sargon literally e-mailed the Louis C.K. embassy.
I don't get this gag.
Post by: benjipwns on January 10, 2019, 07:22:46 AM
They've had a large number of similar comments about how people need to post on someone's Facebook/Twitter about [X] and that was rolled into e-mail the embassy. Like one was about something Elizabeth Warren did and dude was all "people need to be telling her on Facebook."
edit: https://www.resetera.com/threads/reuters-tracking-chinas-muslim-gulag.84477/post-15568802
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Criticism at world stage should be start. Email chinese embassy. Write in news paper national one.
Post by: Mandark on January 10, 2019, 07:25:46 AM
Post by: benjipwns on January 10, 2019, 07:32:09 AM
Post by: Mandark on January 10, 2019, 07:37:13 AM
It's like one step away from middle aged guys tweeting at the pictures posted by some generic Hot Girls Daily type account, as if they're speaking directly to Kylie Jenner or whoever.
edit: or a Canadian professor in the middle of a meat-filled fugue state challenging various quote accounts to a live debate.
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on January 10, 2019, 10:23:02 AM
I do sort of remember my personally lumping him in with the (often Canadian for some reason) Objectivist types, even though I don't think he's an Objectivist, that sees a whole "clash of civilizations" going on and argues that it's not a rights violation to murder people in countries with less rights than the United States/Canada because countries that have more freedom are justified to "liberate" less free countries. It was because he was saying some similar stuff about Muslim countries and Islam. Some other wank dad people like Sargon have occasionally expressed similar sentiments about people who live under Islam.
Wasn't something like this the official Ayn Rand Institute position?
Post by: agrajag on January 10, 2019, 11:16:22 AM
I'd like to point out that Sargon literally e-mailed the Louis C.K. embassy.
(https://i.imgur.com/XS5LK.gif)
Narrator: Nobody understood that reference you weirdo.
Hello riotous, I would like to introduce you to Beni (not to be confused with the ResetERA video game sales insider)
Post by: benjipwns on January 10, 2019, 11:36:16 AM
I like to think Benji is locked in a padded room somewhere staring at a bank of computer screens that scroll resetera, neogaf, thebore, twitter posts, etc. past him 24 hours a day. Every once in a while a keyboard emerges from the wall and he is allowed to type posts into the Bore for a few minutes at a time.pls no dox
Post by: agrajag on January 10, 2019, 11:37:54 AM
I like to think Benji is locked in a padded room somewhere staring at a bank of computer screens that scroll resetera, neogaf, thebore, twitter posts, etc. past him 24 hours a day. Every once in a while a keyboard emerges from the wall and he is allowed to type posts into the Bore for a few minutes at a time.
he's like the alt-right Cypher from The Matrix
#Assireference
Post by: agrajag on January 10, 2019, 11:39:02 AM
Post by: Rufus on January 10, 2019, 12:43:04 PM
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on January 10, 2019, 04:30:31 PM
https://twitter.com/estnihil/status/1083381533787021312
https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/1082617226555990016
Post by: curly on January 11, 2019, 12:46:19 AM
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do you think I am fucking stupid enough to not check Babylonian genetics?
newsfeed pls
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on January 11, 2019, 01:43:31 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2eU96vCCFU
my close family is currently going through genetic testing, due to a defect in my liver that they can't figure out. as a result, i've had to listen to my brother who is on this diet, arguing with the doctors there about what a great diet this is. the amount of times i've had to listen to his bullshit recently and just pray to god him or the doctor would give up. :stahp
Post by: Mandark on January 11, 2019, 09:16:20 PM
Post by: agrajag on January 11, 2019, 09:18:04 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 11, 2019, 09:24:31 PM
Post by: agrajag on January 11, 2019, 09:32:24 PM
Shapiro sometimes seems like he's trying to be better than he has to be.
:iface
Post by: benjipwns on January 11, 2019, 09:50:51 PM
Compare that to the rest of the Wank Dad and the conservative media in general who are completely humorless and don't even feign integrity. (edit: I don't think he's totally reversed his Trump position either like Tucker did) He clearly doesn't have to do these things and keep his fans. Hell, compare to a "comedian" in Steven Crowder and it seems like Shapiro is massively more comfortable with it all.
Post by: benjipwns on January 11, 2019, 09:52:14 PM
I mean in that he actually does journalistic like things like this or firing really bad writers, he is often actually nice to people dunking on him on twitter and will play along, he will go on YouTube channels to poke fun at himself and the "this is epic" meme, is willing to debate/appear on non-positive-only sites, agreed with Sandy on the debate thing others were trying to start but said he was still open to a debate on her terms, etc.wow why don't u marry him or bump ur love letter thread
Compare that to the rest of the Wank Dad and the conservative media in general who are completely humorless and don't even feign integrity. He clearly doesn't have to do these things and keep his fans. Hell, compare to a "comedian" in Steven Crowder and it seems like Shapiro is massively more comfortable with it all.
Post by: benjipwns on January 11, 2019, 10:03:08 PM
we won't be able to see him if all the rest of the Wank Dad's stand up front
Post by: Mandark on January 11, 2019, 10:16:47 PM
Probably kills him inside that he has to keep shilling brain pills and crypto currency instead of taking the spot on the ideas festival circuit that is rightfully his.
Post by: benjipwns on January 11, 2019, 10:33:07 PM
Post by: Mandark on January 11, 2019, 10:49:56 PM
Post by: agrajag on January 14, 2019, 10:46:06 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/daverubin/
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on January 15, 2019, 08:35:36 PM
:-\
Post by: CatsCatsCats on January 17, 2019, 10:36:18 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/0lYS7eb.jpg)
Yo pretty sure JPs gammy molested him, seems to make sense
Post by: Nintex on January 18, 2019, 02:50:46 PM
https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1086301380334272512 (https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1086301380334272512)
Post by: benjipwns on January 19, 2019, 08:20:07 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-YBpTCXTQ8
16:55-20:11
try not to choke up :bolo
Post by: BisMarckie on January 19, 2019, 09:24:25 AM
Besides that, monoculture in Poland? Danzig or Breslau are just weird sounding Polish names. Lithuania? Never heard of it.
Post by: BisMarckie on January 19, 2019, 09:31:25 AM
Post by: benjipwns on January 19, 2019, 09:40:13 AM
Post by: team filler on January 19, 2019, 03:04:45 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 28, 2019, 02:18:42 PM
Post by: Mandark on January 28, 2019, 02:31:24 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 28, 2019, 02:36:15 PM
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1089250376098947072
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXYuqrO8LLo
While the CBC apparently aired this documentary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYsDRW3O5BE
Post by: shosta on January 28, 2019, 02:39:37 PM
Post by: BisMarckie on January 28, 2019, 02:53:45 PM
did jordan peterson do anything in 2018 at all besides hanging out with dave rubin
:gurl :ufup
(https://i.postimg.cc/D0bDzVk4/vape.png)
Post by: Kara on January 28, 2019, 03:04:35 PM
Post by: Brehvolution on January 28, 2019, 03:07:09 PM
did jordan peterson do anything
fixed
Post by: benjipwns on January 28, 2019, 04:36:20 PM
Post by: CatsCatsCats on January 28, 2019, 04:39:57 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 28, 2019, 04:44:14 PM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1089631894486962177
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1089215294629863426
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1088894555917713408
"BALLLLLSSSSS DEEEP"
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1089015148293963776
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1088995095506911233
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1089233515550408704
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1089670073839628291
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1089750724978794496
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1089898023692296192
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1089903883583770624
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1088995095506911233
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1089233515550408704
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1089670073839628291
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1089750724978794496
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1089898023692296192
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1089903883583770624
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Post by: Mandark on January 28, 2019, 04:50:19 PM
Post by: BisMarckie on January 28, 2019, 04:51:14 PM
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When I was a kid, I believed we would have jet packs and vacations to Mars by now
I will never forgive those who destroyed this dream
:stahp
Post by: benjipwns on January 28, 2019, 04:56:12 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 28, 2019, 04:59:41 PM
Guys I've now started to ponder the possibility that being "anti-identity politics" might sometimes carry some unstated beliefs or attitudes.Hey Ross, can you show me on the Internet where you have posted this about someone who is NOT white?
Or have you just been programmed to hate whites, and know that no white is going to try and destroy your life for abusing an icon?
Whites are safe to attack.
Won’t last though.
Post by: BisMarckie on January 28, 2019, 05:00:52 PM
like the only explanation i can come up with is that he accidentally linked the wrong news story or something
Maybe he was trying to link the news story in which Poland went on a mission to the sun - at night. :rimshot
Post by: Mandark on January 28, 2019, 05:23:58 PM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/961011649300914177
Post by: Kara on January 28, 2019, 05:43:12 PM
Post by: Mandark on January 28, 2019, 05:44:49 PM
edit: Also, Molyneux's reasoning there is basically the same as super-respectable Andrew Sullivan's:
https://twitter.com/deep_beige/status/979808130480697344
Post by: CatsCatsCats on January 28, 2019, 06:04:35 PM
holy shit
didn’t know you could name spoilers
simply amazing
thx benji
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Post by: Joe Molotov on January 28, 2019, 07:16:43 PM
Post by: CatsCatsCats on January 28, 2019, 07:21:08 PM
I knew something was up with that guy when I was playing Black & White.
Reworking this joke over and over is now a bore meme
Post by: CatsCatsCats on January 28, 2019, 08:01:23 PM
Post by: CatsCatsCats on January 28, 2019, 08:05:20 PM
Listen, it’s not Black & White
OH THATS PETER NVM
Really puts a different perspective on the game Black and White.
How the mighty have fallen, throwing out my Fable body pillow.
I was gonna do a post collecting them all but turns out people around here talk about black and white all the time
and
Peters
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Post by: Mr Gilhaney on January 28, 2019, 08:45:32 PM
Post by: Kara on January 29, 2019, 02:54:57 AM
Post by: curly on January 29, 2019, 09:17:06 PM
https://twitter.com/nfergus/status/1089593617675628545
Reminds me of something I was just reading about how state legislators in the 18th and 19th centuries were constantly beating the shit out of each other. But I'm sure they were doing in a rational, clear-headed manner.
Post by: BisMarckie on January 29, 2019, 09:18:51 PM
Post by: Kara on January 30, 2019, 02:20:14 AM
Post by: Mandark on January 30, 2019, 02:41:55 AM
Post by: Kara on January 30, 2019, 03:03:07 AM
Post by: Mandark on January 30, 2019, 03:16:13 AM
Reminds me that I thought From Beirut To Jerusalem by Tom Friedman was good when I read it. That was over 15 years ago so I don't know how much to trust my opinion from then, but he seemed like a completely different person from the columnist who was hearing from taxi drivers about how great US military interventions were.
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on January 30, 2019, 12:32:07 PM
I've heard other people who know more than me say his early stuff, both academic and popular history, is good.even this is overstating it. There’s one well received monograph written for a scholarly audience (his first publication) and one well received book written for a popular audience (his second, and the one on the rothschilds).
Everything else is varying levels of agitprop and/or fire-stoking hot takes.
Post by: benjipwns on January 30, 2019, 02:24:41 PM
This is actually why many of these guys are often so convincingly good, they've done the real work once in their life, so they can pretty well fake it on multiple subjects. You can see it compared to someone like (since he's on this page and I don't have to search for a better name) Molyneux who is essentially a complete amateur despite having a grad school desk in the university library. But generally if you "know" of a historian and they write lots of books, regularly, on many different topics*, they've basically "left" academia with their works, even if they keep their "day job" in academia. This has actually become increasingly common in history because of its different publishing standards. The best way to make money and keep your own interest for decades is to establish in academia and then just publish outside it.
Also, most historians in academia will focus on one area and even though they will teach lots of areas because they're "best at the school" they'll rarely actually present works outside of their specific fields. Ferguson for example appears to have his root expertise in British foreign policy history around 1914 and specifically British economic history regarding the turn of the century. He then extrapolates above that into general economic history and British history and then above that to his general popular histories about the West or whatever. He would, had he remained purely in academia have continued to only write about the British foreign policy decision making in 1914 and British economic histories of different types around that early 20th century period, with some backwards into the Gilded Age stuff to build the history. Like his Rothchilds book goes backwards to 1849 since that's when the family starts becoming relevant. He would teach general British history and economic history courses. He may teach history courses on other topics because often these can be entirely interest based but he would never for example publish the Kissinger or any of his American history books, it is so far outside of his expertise.
That's not to say that people can't switch focuses in history or even produce such a book, but it's highly unlikely as it would require simply too much work to shift appropriately. If anything you would expect him to partner with someone who "knows" Kissinger to approach British foreign policy for World War I either from a Kissingerist POV or how it is reflected in Kissinger's foreign policy. To write a two-part biography of the guy though off his notes? Never.
To be clear, I actually don't have a problem with popular history. Just wanted to build off what jake said.
*David McCullough, Doris Kearns Goodwin, etc.
Post by: benjipwns on January 30, 2019, 02:34:39 PM
The expansion of the world over the last few decades has really helped in this, because for a long time a few guys in the UK and in the Ivy League could control entire subfields simply because you had to go through them for translations. (Also common was stuff like certain subfields tied to French colonies were essentially controlled via translations into French first.)
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on January 30, 2019, 04:41:21 PM
Also, totally, academic specialization is a real thing, and it gets lamented about constantly. But I can picture a lot of historians, some of whom I took classes from, who contributed more than just a couple books/articles to their field, worked mid-career to acquire competency in a related field, and kept tabs on stuff happening in the discipline that wouldn’t even be incorporated into their work. Like, some of those people are really fucking studious; and what legit struck me was how high a volume those studious people seemed to represent the discipline. But also obviously there are people who only kinda give a shit. And none of the above elides the fact that academia is, at bottom, horseshit.
Or maybe you were only talking about people who wanted to pivot from university to the real world. In which case I’m just talking to myself here.
*on Hamburg during German inflation, actually, had no idea
History is an interesting field actually because popular histories are the foundation of it more than academic histories are, academic history is a relatively new phenomenon. It's a field that has always leaned more towards everyone fights over the history versus true peer review.wait, what?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on January 30, 2019, 04:45:20 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 30, 2019, 05:01:57 PM
Those ones who make the leap are who will usually do it with their early career book. A lot of historians will like Ferguson do that same dissertation update, then work on something to jump into the field and then try to make their definitive work. Because they're working on these for so long they don't have the opportunity to be putting stuff out constantly. In other disciplines you'll see people who have their names on ten papers a year even if they probably only contributed to one. History, it's not unusual to see multi-year gaps on a CV, but each time it's a full fledged book.
Yeah, books are really the main thing in the field still. To compare to poli sci for example, it's all articles, you'll get books that are really just articles fleshed out more and people will ignore the books and just cite the articles still. Many times in history if you find an article the person likely has written a book on it, or the article has become a chapter in a book, so the articles rarely are cited as much.
What I mean with the academic history being new thing is that the major historians for a long time were not trained in the university or similar to be historians they were trained in something else and became historians on their own. The historiography of history only goes back to the 19th century really. I know you can say that for many of the social sciences but history has huge gaps in its own historiography that you don't see in many of the others. It was never really set up in the university and established in the academic manners as quickly as they were. It often would get established at universities and then cut or merged into another department. For a long time there were broader "social studies" departments that history only recently (by this I mean, like the 1970s or so) has been spun out of, even at some major universities that are renowned for their history departments now.
Post by: benjipwns on January 30, 2019, 05:04:18 PM
edit: actually one other one other thing is that the U.S. does not dominate History like other fields, the UK, Germany, etc. are all major major players in it still, so a lot of their more unique conventions are still in the field. Plus we get a lot of historians who are trained overseas and then come here to teach (where else to get a great German-reading historian than Germany?), which is not at least from my experience the case in other fields, you come here and get trained and then stay here or go back home.
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on January 30, 2019, 05:13:32 PM
Also, on topic, apparently Molyneux was involved in some next level self-ownage.
Post by: benjipwns on January 30, 2019, 05:21:36 PM
That reminds me, what I should have mentioned about the fights. Book reviews are where they have fights. Someone will review your book, then you have to respond to their review, then they respond until the journal cuts it off. I know this is done in other fields, but like you mentioned books really matter in history, so the book reviews and responses will take up a lot of pages of the journals. In some poli sci journals the book reviews are pretty useless and I don't even know why they do them.
Some of the book review fights are even in people's Wikipedia entries.
edit: I think the highest level I saw was like a twelfth response to a review, and it had pulled in like four other people by that point and dude was responding to all of them. Journal finally cut if off because it had been like a year and a half. :lol
Post by: benjipwns on January 30, 2019, 05:24:59 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 30, 2019, 05:29:22 PM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1090437498885550080
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1090585789363294209
Post by: benjipwns on January 30, 2019, 05:30:08 PM
SHIRTLESS BERNIE SANDERS :phil
Post by: team filler on January 30, 2019, 05:37:14 PM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1090037254402265088>:( did he just use my :-[?
SHIRTLESS BERNIE SANDERS :phil
Post by: Mandark on January 30, 2019, 05:46:22 PM
I opened the video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyLBGkS5ICk) in an incognito tab and got the same list.
Post by: benjipwns on January 30, 2019, 05:58:10 PM
Post by: Nintex on January 30, 2019, 06:02:38 PM
It is known.
Post by: Mandark on January 30, 2019, 06:03:32 PM
But YT comments are the worst shit in the world, don't steer me towards that.
Post by: benjipwns on January 30, 2019, 06:05:50 PM
Quote from: https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/25/18197301/youtube-algorithm-conspiracy-theories-misinformation
By default, YouTube enables an autoplay feature that serves users new videos as soon as the one they are watching finishes. These rabbit holes often lead viewers to videos that have received lots of “engagement,” including views, comments, and shares. More outrageous videos tend to perform well by these measures, and so they have been served up by the YouTube algorithm for years.
Post by: BisMarckie on January 30, 2019, 06:09:55 PM
Between like Game Sack's 3DO episode and some shitty top 10 sports moments video, there are always some Ben Shapiro videos.
Oh and never watch a single one of those 'oversimplified' videos, not only are they terrible, they never go away from your recommendations. :stahp
Post by: Nintex on January 30, 2019, 06:11:18 PM
"I've just manually removed the phrase from our filter, can you try again?"
"Ok it seems to load now..."
"Yep it works in the title. Now let my try the description"
"Nope, same error"
"We can remove it sir. But the system and algorithm will just automatically add it again"
They have zero control over these systems. If JP got flagged with a priority 1000 or something it would take a human mind decades to figure out how to remove that recommendation.
Post by: benjipwns on January 30, 2019, 06:14:16 PM
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Conan Catches Jordan Schlansky Coming In Latethis has been there for like six months, i watched it like five years ago when they first posted it :lol
Team Coco
Recommended for you
Post by: Mandark on January 30, 2019, 06:14:57 PM
Between like Game Sack's 3DO episode and some shitty top 10 sports moments video, there are always some Ben Shapiro videos.
I went to my YT history and purged anything with Shapiro, Rubin, JP, etc. in it which mostly but not entirely fixed it.
I'll still watch a bunch of Jim Cornette interviews and get "Jordan Peterson talks about Bret Hart" on the sidebar.
Post by: Nintex on January 30, 2019, 06:17:35 PM
Basically everyone on the planet gets his shit shoved in their face.
Post by: benjipwns on January 30, 2019, 06:18:47 PM
Post by: BisMarckie on January 30, 2019, 06:23:07 PM
Post by: BisMarckie on January 30, 2019, 06:38:33 PM
History journals can be kinda weird, some of them are just like previews of books. Like the person is almost done with the book, so they'll write up a ten page article for a journal which is giving you a taste of what's coming.
That reminds me, what I should have mentioned about the fights. Book reviews are where they have fights. Someone will review your book, then you have to respond to their review, then they respond until the journal cuts it off. I know this is done in other fields, but like you mentioned books really matter in history, so the book reviews and responses will take up a lot of pages of the journals. In some poli sci journals the book reviews are pretty useless and I don't even know why they do them.
History journals are still pretty important in Germany. You have journals like the journal of legal history or history of the church that are still the most important sources for new academic impulses in that area. Huge monographic works are still the exception over here.
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The historiography of history only goes back to the 19th century really
Leopold von Ranke *Preussens Gloria intensifying* :salute
Post by: team filler on January 30, 2019, 06:42:39 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 30, 2019, 06:45:41 PM
Post by: naff on January 30, 2019, 06:53:09 PM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1087091566856986629
lol, he lying about his education? :lol
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1087568708979941377
Post by: benjipwns on January 30, 2019, 06:58:44 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 30, 2019, 07:00:24 PM
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Molyneux attended the Glendon College of York University, where he was an actor at Theatre Glendon[12] and a member of the Debating Society.[13] He then attended the National Theatre School of Canada in Montreal.[11][14] In 1991, Molyneux received a B.A. in History from McGill University, where he was active in the McGill Debating Union. He then went on to receive an M.A. in History from University of Toronto in 1993.Ivy League?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on January 30, 2019, 07:05:16 PM
Post by: BisMarckie on January 30, 2019, 07:11:05 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 30, 2019, 07:14:39 PM
https://mises.org/library/molyneux-problem
https://mises.org/library/mr-molyneux-responds
https://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Book:Universally_Preferable_Behaviour
that foreword :dead
Post by: BisMarckie on January 30, 2019, 07:16:15 PM
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It would be cruel to arouse false expectations, so I had better say at once that Molyneux does not succeed in his noble goal. He fails, and fails miserably. His arguments are often preposterously bad.
:whoo
Post by: benjipwns on January 30, 2019, 07:20:22 PM
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Because of his facile intelligence, he thinks that he has a talent for philosophical argument and need not undertake the hard labor of learning how such arguments are constructed. Unfortunately for him and his book, he is mistaken.
Post by: benjipwns on January 30, 2019, 07:27:02 PM
gunshot at the start could be loud
and then the rest is stefan molyneux "rapping"
Post by: agrajag on January 30, 2019, 07:27:57 PM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on January 30, 2019, 07:39:29 PM
He posted it to his channel, got shit on, took it down, someone put it back up
Post by: benjipwns on January 30, 2019, 07:44:44 PM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on January 30, 2019, 07:55:57 PM
Post by: curly on January 30, 2019, 11:53:37 PM
(https://i.redd.it/mhwni2huymd21.jpg)
Post by: Brehvolution on January 31, 2019, 11:10:18 AM
Post by: benjipwns on February 02, 2019, 03:03:53 AM
Post by: Rufus on February 04, 2019, 12:53:44 AM
For the uninitiated: Taleb haaates GMOs with a (somewhat blind) fury. He's fixated on "shills", where he can find actual traction, but is also a bit of a luddite about transgenically altered crops.
Post by: agrajag on February 04, 2019, 12:55:34 AM
Post by: curly on February 04, 2019, 01:00:49 AM
wow taleb called him a pedo
Post by: benjipwns on February 04, 2019, 01:05:14 AM
does he eat nothing or what?
Post by: Rufus on February 04, 2019, 01:15:56 AM
https://twitter.com/TalebWisdom/status/1091272215012798464
Post by: Rufus on February 04, 2019, 01:22:15 AM
lmao at this being why he would block PetersonHe loooves squid ink pasta. Otherwise: no idea.
does he eat nothing or what?
Post by: benjipwns on February 04, 2019, 01:28:14 AM
SHILL FOR GLYPHOSATE
just say ROUNDUP or MONSANTO lol
Post by: curly on February 04, 2019, 01:52:55 AM
Post by: Mandark on February 04, 2019, 01:59:04 AM
Someone reminded me about this video today. I told them I'd already seen it and they asked "how mad were you that he didn't say Jane Austen?" because my personal brand is strong.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
And of course I was mad! Come on!
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Post by: benjipwns on February 04, 2019, 02:02:36 AM
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Saints Row IV
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Post by: Rufus on February 04, 2019, 01:03:49 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/amxfg5/nassim_taleb_and_jordan_peterson/
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Taleb has been on a streak of childish behavior that began with his IQ meltdown. It's disturbing.Now that he's dumped on Peterson and IQ as a meaasure of intelligence, he's childish, even though Taleb's an arrogant asshole about damn near everything. How did he manage to look past this before. Odd. :thinking
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The Taleb/Peterson problem is mostly a Taleb problem. It's not that he presents a criticism of the rice, but instead produces a tanrum. It's that he acts out these childish gestures and is quick towards name calling. He jumps right to calling others a Monsanto shill. This is a particularly odd conclusion for Peterson since Jordan has discussed solving world hunger and improving the world. (And its added benefits via childhood nutrition and development.)"Name calling", ie. virtue signaling is something people I don't like do. Peterson means it.
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One person said this is simply a product of Taleb's culture, that Lebanese Christians are just basic assholes in their interactions with each other.:rofl
They are like that. Maybe. I dunno. Someone else said that. Lalala.
Post by: Oblivion on February 04, 2019, 10:50:08 PM
Post by: Rufus on February 05, 2019, 12:44:41 AM
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In brief, Pinker borrowed a quote from Bailey, who didn’t cite the original source and who lifted the quote from its original context to mean the opposite of what Zencey had intended. This led Zencey to confess to me, “how this guy [i.e., Pinker] managed to become a public intellectual in fields so far removed from his expertise is something to wonder at.”
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Even worse is Pinker’s discussion of advanced artificial intelligence. In making his case that worries about superintelligence are unfounded, he describes a computer scientist at Berkeley, Stuart Russell, as one of the “AI experts who are publicly skeptical” that “high-level AI pose(s) the threat of ‘an existential catastrophe.’” But, in reality, Russell is actually one of the most prominent AI experts sounding the alarm that poorly designed AI systems could bring about the total annihilation of humanity! This is a bit like calling Darwin a creationist, or saying that Einstein believed that “God really does play dice.” It’s baffling that such a flagrant mistake made it to print — indeed, Russell himself told me via email that he’d “seen this and I agree it’s an incorrect characterization.”
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In a separate paper titled “Countering Superintelligence Misinformation,” Baum states that Pinker’s remarks “will occasionally be used [in Baum’s paper] as an example of superintelligence misinformation because they are so clearly false.” Later on, Baum notes that “some statements about superintelligence are clearly false. For example, this statement from Steven Pinker: ‘As far as I know, there are no projects to build an AGI, not just because it would be commercially dubious, but also because the concept is barely coherent.’” Here, “AGI” means “artificial general intelligence,” and it’s just plain wrong that there are no projects to build AGI: There are at least 45, including one at Pinker’s own university. Once again, Pinker showed up to class without having done his homework.
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In a tepid review of Malcolm Gladwell’s book "Outliers: The Story of Success" published in 2009, Pinker writes that, “the reasoning in 'Outliers,' which consists of cherry-picked anecdotes, post-hoc sophistry, and false dichotomies, had me gnawing on my Kindle.” Pinker then limns Gladwell as a “minor genius who unwittingly demonstrates the hazards of statistical reasoning and who occasionally blunders into spectacular failures.” I can relate to these frustrations, because I feel them about EN’s “minor-genius-level” discussion of existential threats.https://www.salon.com/2019/01/26/steven-pinkers-fake-enlightenment-his-book-is-full-of-misleading-claims-and-false-assertions/
Post by: CatsCatsCats on February 05, 2019, 06:01:13 PM
Post by: Mandark on February 05, 2019, 09:42:26 PM
Post by: Oblivion on February 06, 2019, 04:40:25 AM
https://www.jbpdaily.com/
:rofl
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 06, 2019, 11:07:51 AM
Post by: Brehvolution on February 06, 2019, 11:09:33 AM
Post by: benjipwns on February 07, 2019, 03:45:00 AM
Post by: benjipwns on February 07, 2019, 03:46:02 AM
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Future:dead
Authoring
Program
Post by: HardcoreRetro on February 07, 2019, 06:10:57 AM
The worst part is that he doesn't even grant me the dignity of calling me ma'am now. :'(
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 07, 2019, 09:33:24 AM
Post by: shosta on February 07, 2019, 05:59:33 PM
Post by: Nintex on February 07, 2019, 07:00:24 PM
So Daddy P finally launched his competitor to Patreon:
https://www.jbpdaily.com/
:rofl
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This is a simple way to stay connected to what Jordan is doing in a more intimate manner.$9 a month
$99 a year
LMAO
Post by: BisMarckie on February 07, 2019, 07:28:02 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 07, 2019, 07:47:08 PM
He better be naked in his videos for 9 bucks a month.
For $9 he gets naked, for $99 he puts his clothes back on.
Post by: benjipwns on February 08, 2019, 04:30:12 PM
https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1093945804140802049
Post by: BisMarckie on February 08, 2019, 04:39:44 PM
Post by: BisMarckie on February 08, 2019, 05:13:35 PM
It's almost like noone read Mein Kampf. :bolo
(You shouldn't, it's terribly written.)
Post by: benjipwns on February 08, 2019, 05:16:04 PM
Post by: BisMarckie on February 08, 2019, 05:21:00 PM
is there an audiobook version?
I just googled it: Yes there is :stahp
Post by: BisMarckie on February 08, 2019, 05:21:47 PM
Hitler didn’t even wear blackface once nor was he known for cultural appropriation.
:gurl
He appropriated the swastika and the Roman salute.
People should have known he was up to no good.
Post by: benjipwns on February 08, 2019, 05:25:29 PM
Post by: BisMarckie on February 08, 2019, 05:26:52 PM
I mean he appropriated German-Aryan culture from the start if we want to get really technical.
Unfortunately there was no birther movement back then. :doge
Post by: agrajag on February 08, 2019, 05:43:12 PM
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In 14th January of 2019, Candace decided to call out the representative from U.S. House of Representatives from New York’s 14th District, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on her Twitter account, mentioning that at the age of 30, Alexandria is so irresponsible that she hadn’t saved any money to rent an apartment in Washington D.C area.
After the Tweet, the internet exploded with all the negativity and backlash towards Candace when a Twitter-user Nathan Bernard retweeted her post. Further, he exposed her reality when she was 28 years of age, living in an apartment for six months straight and not paying the rent. Moreover, he also posted the legal documents on how she had threatened to sue her landlord to avoid paying rent.
Later on, the documents were proven to be original, and she did have lived rent free and then sued her landlord claiming “toxic mold sickness” in the past.
:dead
gotta hand it to her, she is scrappy
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 09, 2019, 12:58:43 AM
is there an audiobook version?
I just googled it: Yes there is :stahp
Is it narrated by Liam Neeson?
Post by: Mandark on February 09, 2019, 01:08:25 AM
Post by: Mandark on February 11, 2019, 02:25:17 PM
Super genius discovers puns.
Post by: Rufus on February 11, 2019, 02:35:21 PM
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on February 11, 2019, 02:39:44 PM
https://clyp.it/z1kjixdv
:whatisthis
Post by: Mandark on February 11, 2019, 02:39:54 PM
Post by: BisMarckie on February 11, 2019, 02:42:07 PM
:ohhh
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 11, 2019, 04:31:59 PM
Post by: agrajag on February 12, 2019, 06:31:02 AM
Post by: CatsCatsCats on February 12, 2019, 04:24:09 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 12, 2019, 04:55:25 PM
Post by: shosta on February 15, 2019, 01:08:34 PM
Post by: BisMarckie on February 15, 2019, 01:10:42 PM
Post by: Rufus on February 15, 2019, 01:32:29 PM
Post by: agrajag on February 15, 2019, 02:08:34 PM
Post by: Brehvolution on February 15, 2019, 02:55:46 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 16, 2019, 12:06:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3VkTVprN0Q
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SILVER & GOLD AVAILABLE VALENTINES DAY 2019
“Silver and Gold” by Kirk Franklin, performed by Milo Yiannopoulos.
MILO RETURNS TO YOUR SCREENS SPRING 2019
(c) 2019 DANGEROUS MUSIC, a division of Milo, Inc.
Post by: Oblivion on February 17, 2019, 08:30:37 AM
ET carried water for this turd. :derp
To be fair to et, he carried water for a lot of turds.
Post by: Oblivion on February 17, 2019, 08:32:06 AM
Post by: Rufus on February 17, 2019, 09:20:58 AM
Post by: shosta on February 17, 2019, 03:57:13 PM
Not a wank dadder, but I just recently discovered that the "piano comedian guy" I didn't really like years ago, who got into a little bit of trouble a year and a half ago for being against giving hormones to trans kids, has gone completely off the rails and turned into an anti-jew hungrynoob pizzagater who thinks Steven Spielberg raped Heather O Rourke to death. It's weird seeing people who I thought were mostly normal turn into insane people, but maybe I'm just going to trust people more often when they tell me that someone I think is normal is actually extremely off.
Post by: agrajag on February 17, 2019, 08:41:22 PM
fake edit: ah yes, Seder-daddy comes through in the clutch
https://youtu.be/a5vUTU5gJLY
skip to the end for Owen Benjamin roasting Sam Harris
Post by: agrajag on February 19, 2019, 10:07:23 AM
Post by: benjipwns on February 21, 2019, 11:42:55 PM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1098436319154384896
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1098442728814272512
this mf
Post by: Mandark on February 22, 2019, 06:09:02 PM
owenbenjamin.jpg
Not a wank dadder, but I just recently discovered that the "piano comedian guy" I didn't really like years ago, who got into a little bit of trouble a year and a half ago for being against giving hormones to trans kids, has gone completely off the rails and turned into an anti-jew hungrynoob pizzagater who thinks Steven Spielberg raped Heather O Rourke to death. It's weird seeing people who I thought were mostly normal turn into insane people, but maybe I'm just going to trust people more often when they tell me that someone I think is normal is actually extremely off.
He got booted off Twitter last year for repeatedly posting about one of the Parkland kids' pubes.
I'd read a deep dive on why so many fringe political types are failed comedians (though "thirst for attention and love of their own voice" probably explains 90% of it).
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on February 22, 2019, 10:40:42 PM
I'd read a deep dive on why so many fringe political types are failed comedians (though "thirst for attention and love of their own voice" probably explains 90% of it).i remember seeing a take that made this connection, and helped explain two trends since the early 90s or so: the entertainmentification of daily news and the growth in looking to comedians as important sources of legit social/political commentary instead of as thoroughly disreputable
Post by: Rufus on February 23, 2019, 03:31:12 AM
Post by: naff on February 24, 2019, 08:50:15 PM
Think it was how miserable he was too, could def see JP getting into some weird shit like the occasional intentional poisoning to rekindle his co-dependant relationship.
(https://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.3570181.1532002359!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_620_330/image.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dxgr5UiWwAA1rTk.jpg)
Post by: naff on February 24, 2019, 08:56:04 PM
this mf
:piss2 :yuck
toxic waste dump
Post by: agrajag on February 26, 2019, 02:05:29 PM
please make this happen
:rejoice
Post by: chronovore on February 27, 2019, 09:18:49 AM
owenbenjamin.jpg
Not a wank dadder, but I just recently discovered that the "piano comedian guy" I didn't really like years ago, who got into a little bit of trouble a year and a half ago for being against giving hormones to trans kids, has gone completely off the rails and turned into an anti-jew hungrynoob pizzagater who thinks Steven Spielberg raped Heather O Rourke to death. It's weird seeing people who I thought were mostly normal turn into insane people, but maybe I'm just going to trust people more often when they tell me that someone I think is normal is actually extremely off.
He got booted off Twitter last year for repeatedly posting about one of the Parkland kids' pubes.
I'd read a deep dive on why so many fringe political types are failed comedians (though "thirst for attention and love of their own voice" probably explains 90% of it).
You forgot "deep and abiding sadness" as well as "self-hatred."
Post by: Nintex on February 27, 2019, 04:45:22 PM
Joe Rogan: "What did Soros do? I literally know nothing"
Alex Jones: "SOROs!!!!"
:rogan
"How George Soros broke the bank of England... wow this is real stuff"
Post by: agrajag on February 27, 2019, 05:06:06 PM
Post by: Nintex on February 27, 2019, 05:08:39 PM
Alex Jones wants to get choked out by Eddy Bravo.
And now he starts ranting about how Bobby Kennedy wanted to bomb Moscow. :doge
my dream of alex jones and joe rogan in a cage match is shatteredIt could end in anal sex or a fight at this point. This shit is off the hook.
Post by: agrajag on February 27, 2019, 05:14:18 PM
Post by: Nintex on February 27, 2019, 05:15:43 PM
Post by: agrajag on February 27, 2019, 05:16:37 PM
Post by: Nintex on February 27, 2019, 05:20:02 PM
Post by: naff on February 27, 2019, 05:24:50 PM
Post by: Nintex on February 27, 2019, 05:28:30 PM
Eddy: "Oh yeah there was like the time they took in those Nazi scientists"
Joe: "Oh yeah that was paperclip... jimmy pull that up"
:rogan
Alex: "See it is all true! This is like on PBS. Really accurate this is in documentaries"
NASA is the German breakaway government :lol
Post by: Nintex on February 27, 2019, 06:14:25 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 01, 2019, 03:45:52 PM
Post by: Nintex on March 01, 2019, 04:19:00 PM
Still, in a world that has Iraq invaded under false pretenses and stuff like the Tunkin Gulf Incident and Reichstag fires his 'ravings' don't seem all that crazy in a 'even a broken clock is right, once a day' kind of way.
He especially fits perfectly into the post-truth world we find ourselves in today. People also don't give him enough credit for being able to talk without prepared remarks and offer detailed explanations for 4.5 hours.
Somehow his fat little brain stores everything from the history of Nazi's to the names of Mayan gods. :doge
Post by: naff on March 01, 2019, 04:40:27 PM
Post by: Oblivion on March 01, 2019, 07:42:46 PM
Post by: team filler on March 01, 2019, 08:46:36 PM
Yeah "I have the documents" isn't just a lol meme, literally almost all the crazy shit he talked about on JRE had documented factual basis that Young Jamie pulled up, although the small details were wrong and sometimes the bigger details were exaggerated.to paraphrase a great philosopher "If someone says 2+2=4, but they also stick marbles up their ass. 2+2 still equals 4."
I would say up through the early Obama years he was batting at like .700. But yeah for sure those earlier documentaries from Waco/OKC through 9/11 were his best and most accurate/truthful docs. A lot of the stuff he talked about in those ended up coming out many years later as accurate or even predictive. Which is maybe even more frightening that this fucking guy can predict shit.
Post by: benjipwns on March 05, 2019, 06:32:32 PM
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1101036497480896512 (https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1101036497480896512)we did it fam
(https://i.imgur.com/GBK0yuq.png)
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The Rumble in the Realm of the Mind — Jordan Peterson vs. Slavoj Zizek — is coming to Toronto, as the two professors will debate “Happiness: Capitalism vs. Marxism” on April 19 at the Sony Centre.
Tickets ($40-$110 plus fees) from Livenation.com, Ticketmaster.ca, Sonycentre.ca and the Sony Centre box office.
Post by: agrajag on March 05, 2019, 06:38:19 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 05, 2019, 06:42:25 PM
Think how cute. :uguu
Post by: agrajag on March 05, 2019, 06:44:45 PM
Post by: Cream youll cave soon on March 05, 2019, 06:51:37 PM
Post by: Brehvolution on March 05, 2019, 06:55:07 PM
Post by: naff on March 05, 2019, 06:56:06 PM
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1101036497480896512 (https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1101036497480896512)we did it fam
(https://i.imgur.com/GBK0yuq.png)QuoteThe Rumble in the Realm of the Mind — Jordan Peterson vs. Slavoj Zizek — is coming to Toronto, as the two professors will debate “Happiness: Capitalism vs. Marxism” on April 19 at the Sony Centre.
Tickets ($40-$110 plus fees) from Livenation.com, Ticketmaster.ca, Sonycentre.ca and the Sony Centre box office.
"Happiness:"
:clap
Post by: benjipwns on March 05, 2019, 06:58:22 PM
sad there's no one like that available
Post by: agrajag on March 05, 2019, 07:00:31 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 05, 2019, 07:02:29 PM
Post by: naff on March 05, 2019, 07:09:03 PM
Imagine paying $110 (plus fees) to sit front row to look up the nostrils of a man dressed like a late 1800s snake oil salesman who sounds like depressed Kermit the Frog and some slavic bum who looks like Stellan Skarsgård as Ole Anderson while they argue about Disney movies.
it's so good! two miserable sacks duke it out in a debate about happiness, that will predominantly be watched by lonely young men. i know Peterson is all "postmodern neo-marxists r the worst" but this whole event seems very absurdist and postmodern to me.
Post by: benjipwns on March 05, 2019, 07:10:01 PM
Post by: naff on March 05, 2019, 07:11:18 PM
also talk about spoilers in the title, we already know "Capitalism" is winning the debate simply by the fact that they're selling tickets to Zizek rambling and mocking Peterson and whatever other random topics come into his head for two hours
or is capitalism losing because petersons crew will be the one's that buy tickets to this?
Post by: agrajag on March 05, 2019, 07:11:43 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 05, 2019, 07:17:56 PM
or is capitalism losing because petersons crew will be the one's that buy tickets to this?"a fool and their money is soon parted" is the founding creed of the Church of Capitalism
Post by: Oblivion on March 06, 2019, 02:45:02 AM
This mess of a debate could be salvaged if they both stick to capitalism vs. marxism, but I'm sure ole' Jordy will try to woo Zizek by bringing up identity politics and feminism and such.
Post by: benjipwns on March 06, 2019, 03:19:01 AM
It's like the ultimate endgame of Peterson's whole mile wide, centimeter deep adventure.
Post by: team filler on March 06, 2019, 03:21:28 AM
Post by: Cream youll cave soon on March 06, 2019, 03:26:23 AM
etiolate, assi and opti should all be unbanned for this special event :pimp
Yeah and they can all triple team me
Post by: team filler on March 06, 2019, 03:26:49 AM
Post by: agrajag on March 06, 2019, 11:12:43 PM
Ben Shapiro is even dumber than previously thought
Post by: naff on March 07, 2019, 04:31:29 AM
Zizek won't debate or stay on topic anyway, he's fundamentally incapable of it. This is why Peterson's obsession with him is so great. He thinks Zizek is the postmodern Marxist dragon that if he can just somehow battle it he can forever end totalitarianism by besting it in debate. When Zizek can't commit to anything that's not currently attracting his attention by being shiny.
It's like the ultimate endgame of Peterson's whole mile wide, centimeter deep adventure.
I would bet they already collaborating on what topics they're going to cover, what points they'll raise and refute etc. Pay per view debate has to be a farce.
Post by: Rufus on March 07, 2019, 06:04:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=250&v=va86Kek-LQABen's a lawyer, so it makes some sense that he would try to spring a semantic trap. Dunno what the other's guy excuse is.
Ben Shapiro is even dumber than previously thought
Post by: Trent Dole on March 07, 2019, 06:59:43 AM
Post by: agrajag on March 07, 2019, 08:53:59 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=250&v=va86Kek-LQABen's a lawyer, so it makes some sense that he would try to spring a semantic trap. Dunno what the other's guy excuse is.
Ben Shapiro is even dumber than previously thought
Yeah, but it's painfully stupid, even on surface level. What he's saying is that if you transition, you need to change your sexual preference to... appease the semantic gods? Anyone who even thinks about it for a couple of seconds can figure that out.
Post by: Rufus on March 07, 2019, 09:19:26 AM
Just doesn't stir my hate boner the way JP does, which has a lot (or everything?) to do with the fanbase.
Post by: benjipwns on March 12, 2019, 03:53:06 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 12, 2019, 03:56:06 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0eqNFuX4AAYRu2.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D02F_m5WoAAfwId.jpg)
lol this guy
Post by: benjipwns on March 12, 2019, 03:56:49 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzzwWhGWwAEbGlf.png)
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 12, 2019, 04:33:54 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D02F_m5WoAAfwId.jpg)
lol this guy
"You know why they call it a DICk-TATORSHIP, right?" :smug
*clips of AOC falling off her bicycle, crashing her go-kart, getting brushed back at the plate*
*the Avengers Theme starts playing*
Disney's Marvel's American Presidential Election 2028, sponsored by Yum Brands. Coming this November.
Post by: BisMarckie on March 12, 2019, 04:49:04 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 12, 2019, 04:54:41 PM
Plus he's made a hard turn into race realism, his amazing Poland documentary shows just how hard he's bought into white supremacy as almost like some kind of religious revelation.
He did one of those pro-Trump trips where the person is like anti-establishment/system and also sorta anti-immigration, and so they gravitated to pro-Trump and then shot past Trump into all the hardest edge stuff.
Post by: shosta on March 12, 2019, 04:54:50 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 12, 2019, 04:58:01 PM
https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1105238867324620800
Post by: jorma on March 12, 2019, 05:11:02 PM
The things I'd do just to live in a chicktatorship :noah
funny because when you worked in one you were always here bitching about the weekend msgs the chicktator sent you :doge
Post by: shosta on March 12, 2019, 05:38:21 PM
Post by: jorma on March 12, 2019, 05:48:45 PM
It's abusive, triggering messages like that which are exactly the reason I got banned from a bar last week.
and you are absolutely sure it wasn't because they spotted your fake id? :P
Post by: Rufus on March 12, 2019, 06:03:59 PM
Post by: Mandark on March 12, 2019, 06:31:54 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 12, 2019, 08:48:57 PM
Post by: shosta on March 12, 2019, 08:56:56 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 12, 2019, 09:25:00 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 13, 2019, 12:25:40 AM
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on March 13, 2019, 01:59:17 AM
Post by: team filler on March 13, 2019, 02:50:15 AM
There was also a 33 page part one created by the master: http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45437.0:rejoice :tocry
Post by: BisMarckie on March 13, 2019, 03:17:52 AM
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There's a You Must Be This Tall To Ride rule about this stuff. You Must Be This Emotionally and Intellectually Mature To Ride the discussion roller coaster. [=- Proceed to emoji your rolleyes and newsfeed here -=]
:rejoice
Post by: Oblivion on March 14, 2019, 12:26:05 AM
Post by: curly on March 14, 2019, 01:15:59 AM
Post by: shosta on March 14, 2019, 01:35:42 AM
wherein Self exposes that Zizek has no praxis at all
Post by: shosta on March 15, 2019, 12:55:17 AM
Post by: shosta on March 15, 2019, 08:33:21 PM
Finally demonetized!
Post by: Mandark on March 15, 2019, 08:36:51 PM
Post by: shosta on March 15, 2019, 08:43:21 PM
Post by: shosta on March 16, 2019, 04:44:41 PM
What's wrong with this guy?
Post by: BisMarckie on March 16, 2019, 05:07:02 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 16, 2019, 07:50:51 PM
Post by: Mandark on March 16, 2019, 08:23:25 PM
It's not an extreme prediction at all, but Ben knows his hustle and his audience.
edit: I'm enough of a fogey to remember the pervasive sense that Japan had surpassed the US in the 80's and early 90's, and all the anxiety that brought out of Americans. For a country which is under our military umbrella!
Post by: team filler on March 16, 2019, 09:17:14 PM
Post by: chronovore on March 18, 2019, 04:06:27 AM
His prediction was just that there would be some multiple-casualty hate crime targeting Asians, like the ones that targeted Jews in Pittsburgh (or Muslims in Quebec and Christchurch, or black Christians in Charleston), not a full blown race war or whatever.
It's not an extreme prediction at all, but Ben knows his hustle and his audience.
edit: I'm enough of a fogey to remember the pervasive sense that Japan had surpassed the US in the 80's and early 90's, and all the anxiety that brought out of Americans. For a country which is under our military umbrella!
Rumbler's still correct though: no facts are involved in the spouting of speculation.
Post by: Brehvolution on March 18, 2019, 09:55:07 AM
Obviously Ben Shapiro can see the future
He just needs a step ladder to do so.
Post by: Nintex on March 18, 2019, 03:46:34 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/3XMpmEv.png)Because with their demigod stuck in a loop of watching Fox News and tweeting angrily about the programming.
What's wrong with this guy?
Andrew Yang is drinking their milkshake
(https://media.giphy.com/media/l1BgRIamescnkx5Dy/giphy.gif)
Post by: team filler on March 19, 2019, 11:58:03 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 20, 2019, 12:20:27 AM
Post by: team filler on March 20, 2019, 12:24:42 AM
Post by: benjipwns on March 20, 2019, 12:27:33 AM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1107501909626089475
he also retweeted his own burn on somebody:
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1107765507376082944
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 20, 2019, 09:25:00 AM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1108150327046397952
#whitegenocide
Post by: Nintex on March 20, 2019, 03:24:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOJ_7iHcORwWe Dutch pretty much try to shorten our work week any way we can. I'm not surprised Rutger is pushing this. :lol
Post by: Oblivion on March 21, 2019, 05:17:25 AM
Possibly the greatest infringement on free speech yet! :fbm
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on March 21, 2019, 11:51:29 AM
im going through the two treatises right now and, in the process, revisiting all those jacobin pieces that try to drag him:There was also a 33 page part one created by the master: http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45437.0
I read through this entire thing. I expected one of you to snidely point out to etoilétte that Locke was secretary / advisor to parties directly involved in colonialism and in what I recall was fairly plain language admitted that the natives (or was it Savage races?) conception of property was irrelevant. I haven't read him in a few so correct me if I'm wrong here. :doge
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/06/locke-treatise-slavery-private-property/
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/10/locke-classical-liberalism-treatise-nozick-constitution/
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/08/locke-property-manifest-destiny-jefferson-slavery-indigenous
and a new one that came out this month: https://jacobinmag.com/2019/03/john-locke-freedom-slavery-united-states/
There’s also a new book out that argues Locke’s political philosophy was an afterthought for all the utilitarian classical liberals from the 19th century like Bentham and the Mills. The Locke wars are one of my favorite subplots in early modern.
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on March 21, 2019, 12:17:44 PM
Locke was an investor in some transatlantic slaver enterprise and Mill was an administrator in the BEIC. Don’t know if it’s in the book -haven’t read it- but one of the upshots I saw from discussion about it was that, after liberalism starts being reconstructed following the perceived failures that lead to two world wars, the canon gets reassessed, Locke gets employed as an early champion, displacing people that had been there for decades like Constant and Grouchy.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://i.imgur.com/2sz1fSS.png)
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Post by: Rufus on March 21, 2019, 01:09:18 PM
Edit; or was it the other way around? Exploitable natives and resources existed and their ideologies were born as a result. Is this dialectical materialism :doge :ussrcrySearch your feelings. You know it to be true.
Post by: Oblivion on March 21, 2019, 04:21:33 PM
Quote from: Daddy P
I visited Cambridge University in November of last year, during my 12 Rules for Life Book tour, one stop of which was the city of Cambridge, where I spoke publicly at the venerable Cambridge Corn Exchange. While there, I had lunch and dinner and various scheduled conversations with a good number of faculty members and other interested individuals who came in for the occasion, and we took the opportunity to speak with a welcome frankness about theological, philosophical and psychological matters. I also recorded twoYouTube videos/podcasts: one with the eminent philosopher Sir Roger Scruton, presented by The Cambridge Center for the Study of Platonism, and another with Dr. Stephen Blackwood, founding President of Ralston College, a university in Savannah, Georgia, preparing for launch.
I was also invited to address the student-run Cambridge Union, the oldest continuously running debating society in the world – a talk which was delivered to a packed house (a relatively rare occurrence) and which, despite being posted only four months ago, is now the second-most watched of their 200 total videos. I’m mentioning this for a very particular purpose: CUSU, the Cambridge University Student Union (not to be confused with the aforementioned Cambridge Union), pinned to their Twitter account the rescindment announcement three minutes before (!) the Faculty of Divinity did so, and in a spirit of apparent “relief.” The Guardian cited the following CUSU statement:
We are relieved to hear that Jordan Peterson’s request for a visiting fellowship to Cambridge’s faculty of divinity has been rescinded following further review. It is a political act to associate the University with an academic’s work through offers which legitimise figures such as Peterson. His work and views are not representative of the student body and as such we do not see his visit as a valuable contribution to the University, but one that works in opposition to the principles of the University.
It seems to me that the packed Cambridge Union auditorium, the intelligent questioning associated with the lecture, and the overwhelming number of views the subsequently posted video accrued, indicates that there a number of Cambridge students are very interested in what I have to say, and might well regard my visit “as a valuable contribution to the University.” I also have to say, as a university professor concerned with literacy, that the CUSU statement offered to The Guardian borders on the unintelligible, perhaps even crossing the line (as so much ideological-puppet-babble tends to): what in the world does it mean that “it is a political act to associate the University with an academic’s work through offers which legitimise figures such as Peterson”? And who could write or say something of that rhetorical nature without a deep sense of betraying their personal conscience?
In any case: In November, when I was in Cambridge, I began discussions with one of the faculty members (whom I had met briefly before, in London) about the possibility of entering into a collaboration with the Cambridge Divinity Faculty. I enjoyed the conversations I had at Cambridge immensely. I learned a lot about Biblical matters that had remained unknown to me in a very short time. This was of particular relevance to me, but also perhaps of more broad and public import, because of a series of lectures on the Biblical stories of Genesis I prepared, delivered live (at the Isabel Bader Theatre in Toronto) and then posted on YouTube (playlist here) and in podcast form.
Since their posting, beginning in May of 2017, these lectures have received about 10 million hits (as well as an equal or greater number of downloads). The first lecture alone, on the first sentence of Genesis, has, alone, garnered 3.7 million of those, which makes it the most well-received of all the talks I have ever posted online. I have received correspondence in great volume from religious people all over the world, Jews, Christians, Buddhists and Muslims alike—and an equally large number from atheists—all telling me that my psychological take on the Genesis material resonated very strongly with their faith, or that it helped them understand for the first time the value of these stories. You can see this for yourself by reading the comments on the YouTube channel, which are remarkably civilized and positive, by modern social media standards. I don’t think there is another modern religious/psychological phenomenon or happening that is genuinely comparable. It’s also the case that my books, 12 Rules for Life and Maps of Meaning both rely heavily on Judeo-Christian thinking, and are predicated on the idea that the stories that make up such thought constitute the bedrock of our civil, peaceful and productive society. The former has now sold 3 million copies (one million in tongues other than English), and will be translated into 50 languages; the latter, a much older book, was recently a New York Times bestseller in audio format. This volume of interest is clear indication of the widespread cross-cultural appeal of the work that I am doing.
In the fall, I am planning to produce a series of lectures on the Exodus stories. I presume they will have equal drawing power. I thought that I could extend my knowledge of the relevant stories by spending time in Cambridge, and that doing so would be useful for me, for faculty members who might be interested in speaking with me, and to the students. I also regarded it as a privilege and an opportunity. I believed (and still believe) that collaborating with the Faculty of Divinity on such a project would constitute an opportunity of clear mutual benefit. Finally, I thought that making myself more knowledgeable about relevant Biblical matters by working with the experts there would be of substantive benefit to the public audience who would eventually receive the resultant lectures.
Now the Divinity school has decided that signaling their solidarity with the diversity-inclusivity-equity mob trumps that opportunity–or so I presume. You see, I don’t yet know, because (and this is particularly appalling) I was not formally notified of this decision by any representative of the Divinity school. I heard about the rescinded offer through the grapevine, via a colleague and friend, and gathered what I could about the reasons from social media and press coverage (assuming that CUSU has at least something to do with it).
I would also like to point out something else. As I already noted, the Divinity Faculty (@CamDivinity) tweeted their decision to rescind, consciously making this a public issue. This is inexcusable, in my estimation, given (1) that they did not equally publicize the initial agreement/invitation (which has to be considered an event of equal import) and (2) that they implied that I came cap-in-hand to the school for the fellowship. This is precisely the kind of half-truth particularly characteristic of those who deeply practice to deceive, as the fellowship offer was a consequence of mutual discussion between those who invited me to Cambridge in July and my subsequent formal request, and not something I had dreamed up on my own.
It’s not going to make much difference to my future, in some sense. I have more opportunities at the moment than I can keep track of, let alone (let’s say) capitalize on. It’s a complex and surreally fortunate position to occupy, and I’m not taking it for granted, but it happens to be true. In the fall, therefore, I will produce the lectures I plan to produce on Exodus, regardless of whether they occur in the UK or in Canada or elsewhere, and they will attract whatever audience remains interested. But I think that it is deeply unfortunate that the authorities at the Divinity school in Cambridge decided that kowtowing to an ill-informed, ignorant and ideologically-addled mob trumped participating in an extensive online experiment in mass Christian and psychological education. Given the continued decline of church attendance, the rise in atheistic or agnostic sentiment, the increasing irrelevance of theological education and the collapse in interest in such matters among young people, wiser and more profound decisions might have been made.
You see, it matters whether people around the world understand these ancient stories. It deeply matters. We are becoming unmoored, because we no longer share the structure these stories undergird. This is psychologically destabilizing. It’s producing a pathological and desperate nihilism that is increasingly common and, at the same time, a pronounced proclivity for the ideological certainty that mimics but cannot replace true religious belief. Both consequences are bound to be, as the evidence certainly indicates, divisive and truly dangerous.
I think the Faculty of Divinity made a serious error of judgement in rescinding their offer to me (and I’m speaking about those unnamed persons who made that specific decision). I think they handled publicizing the rescindment in a manner that could hardly have been more narcissistic, self-congratulatory and devious.
I believe that the parties in question don’t give a damn about the perilous decline of Christianity, and I presume in any case that they regard that faith, in their propaganda-addled souls, as the ultimate manifestation of the oppressive Western patriarchy, despite their hypothetical allegiance to their own discipline.
I think that it is no bloody wonder that the faith is declining (and with it, the values of the West, as it fragments) with cowards and mountebanks of the sort who manifested themselves today at the helm.
I wish them the continued decline in relevance over the next few decades that they deeply and profoundly and diligently work toward and deserve.
P.S. I also find it interesting and deeply revealing that I know the names of the people who invited me, both informally and formally, but the names of the people who have disinvited me remain shrouded in exactly the kind of secrecy that might be expected from hidden, conspiratorial, authoritarian and cowardly bureaucrats. How many were there? No one knows. By what process did they come to the decision (since there were obviously people who wanted me there)? No one knows. On what grounds was the decision made? That has not been revealed. What role was played by pressure from, for example, the CUSU? That’s apparently no one’s business. It is on such ground that tyranny does not so much grow as positively thrive.
P.P.S. Here’s something from Vice-Chancellor Professor Stephen Toope of the University of Cambridge that’s worth consideration, in the current context (the described “openness” is apparently part of the university’s declared strategic initiatives regarding (what else) equality and diversity (bold mine):
One very specific aspect of…openness is being inclusive, and open to diversity in all its forms – diversity of interests and beliefs, of gender, of religion, of sexual identity, of ethnicity, of physical ability.
https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/blog-posts/cambridge-university-rescinds-my-fellowship/
Post by: benjipwns on March 21, 2019, 05:12:51 PM
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I think they handled publicizing the rescindment in a manner that could hardly have been more narcissistic, self-congratulatory and devious.:teehee
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I wish them the continued decline in relevance over the next few decades that they deeply and profoundly and diligently work toward and deserve.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 21, 2019, 06:42:04 PM
daddy p makin' believers of us all!
Post by: benjipwns on March 21, 2019, 11:18:32 PM
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A Jordan Peterson book is no longer for sale from Whitcoulls in New Zealand following the Christchurch terror attack.
The controversial Canadian professor visited Aotearoa in February, weeks before a gunman killed 50 people and injured dozens more at two mosques in Christchurch.
Although Peterson's book promotes self-help rather than violence or racism, he was photographed in New Zealand embracing a fan wearing a T-shirt emblazoned with the words "I'm a proud Islamaphobe", along with a list of various inflammatory accusations about Muslims.
Whitcoulls doesn't specify the exact reason for dumping Peterson's 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos, but the Islamaphobe T-shirt photo could be a part of the "disturbing material" referred to in replies to customer enquiries.
"Unfortunately 12 Rules for Life is currently unavailable, which is a decision that Whitcoulls has made in light of some extremely disturbing material being circulated prior, during and after the Christchurch attacks," Whitcoulls says in an email.
"As a business which takes our responsibilities to our communities very seriously, we believe it would be wrong to support the author at this time. Apologies that we're not able to sell it to you, but we appreciate your understanding."
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12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos does not contain the word 'Islam' and only contains the word 'Muslim' once, but not in a negative context.
Meanwhile, other titles about Islam are still available - including Islam Unmasked by Henry Malone, which claims to expose "the lies behind [Islamic] doctrines" and "the futility of [Islamic] practices".
Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf is also still available for purchase from Whitcoulls.
Post by: shosta on March 21, 2019, 11:43:24 PM
but why
Post by: Biff on March 22, 2019, 12:02:06 AM
everything's turning up Daddy P: https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/entertainment/2019/03/jordan-peterson-s-12-rules-for-life-removed-from-whitcoulls-following-christchurch-terror-attack.htmlIt's really quite sad/frightening that ideas have become so scary that adults must be shielded from exposure to them.QuoteA Jordan Peterson book is no longer for sale from Whitcoulls in New Zealand following the Christchurch terror attack.
The controversial Canadian professor visited Aotearoa in February, weeks before a gunman killed 50 people and injured dozens more at two mosques in Christchurch.
Although Peterson's book promotes self-help rather than violence or racism, he was photographed in New Zealand embracing a fan wearing a T-shirt emblazoned with the words "I'm a proud Islamaphobe", along with a list of various inflammatory accusations about Muslims.
Whitcoulls doesn't specify the exact reason for dumping Peterson's 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos, but the Islamaphobe T-shirt photo could be a part of the "disturbing material" referred to in replies to customer enquiries.
"Unfortunately 12 Rules for Life is currently unavailable, which is a decision that Whitcoulls has made in light of some extremely disturbing material being circulated prior, during and after the Christchurch attacks," Whitcoulls says in an email.
"As a business which takes our responsibilities to our communities very seriously, we believe it would be wrong to support the author at this time. Apologies that we're not able to sell it to you, but we appreciate your understanding."
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12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos does not contain the word 'Islam' and only contains the word 'Muslim' once, but not in a negative context.
Meanwhile, other titles about Islam are still available - including Islam Unmasked by Henry Malone, which claims to expose "the lies behind [Islamic] doctrines" and "the futility of [Islamic] practices".
Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf is also still available for purchase from Whitcoulls.
I don't care if it's 12 Rules to P Your Daddy or Mein Kampf. It's words on a page for fuck's sake.
"Badman took a picture with some dipshit. Adults can't see that! They'll gun down innocents!"
Post by: Oblivion on March 22, 2019, 02:34:55 AM
Meanwhile, other titles about Islam are still available - including Islam Unmasked by Henry Malone, which claims to expose "the lies behind [Islamic] doctrines" and "the futility of [Islamic] practices".
Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf is also still available for purchase from Whitcoulls.
fucking annihilated
Post by: Oblivion on March 22, 2019, 02:36:43 AM
everything's turning up Daddy P: https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/entertainment/2019/03/jordan-peterson-s-12-rules-for-life-removed-from-whitcoulls-following-christchurch-terror-attack.htmlIt's really quite sad/frightening that ideas have become so scary that adults must be shielded from exposure to them.QuoteA Jordan Peterson book is no longer for sale from Whitcoulls in New Zealand following the Christchurch terror attack.
The controversial Canadian professor visited Aotearoa in February, weeks before a gunman killed 50 people and injured dozens more at two mosques in Christchurch.
Although Peterson's book promotes self-help rather than violence or racism, he was photographed in New Zealand embracing a fan wearing a T-shirt emblazoned with the words "I'm a proud Islamaphobe", along with a list of various inflammatory accusations about Muslims.
Whitcoulls doesn't specify the exact reason for dumping Peterson's 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos, but the Islamaphobe T-shirt photo could be a part of the "disturbing material" referred to in replies to customer enquiries.
"Unfortunately 12 Rules for Life is currently unavailable, which is a decision that Whitcoulls has made in light of some extremely disturbing material being circulated prior, during and after the Christchurch attacks," Whitcoulls says in an email.
"As a business which takes our responsibilities to our communities very seriously, we believe it would be wrong to support the author at this time. Apologies that we're not able to sell it to you, but we appreciate your understanding."
...
12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos does not contain the word 'Islam' and only contains the word 'Muslim' once, but not in a negative context.
Meanwhile, other titles about Islam are still available - including Islam Unmasked by Henry Malone, which claims to expose "the lies behind [Islamic] doctrines" and "the futility of [Islamic] practices".
Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf is also still available for purchase from Whitcoulls.
I don't care if it's 12 Rules to P Your Daddy or Mein Kampf. It's words on a page for fuck's sake.
"Badman took a picture with some dipshit. Adults can't see that! They'll gun down innocents!"
are you a lobster, friend?
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"Badman took a picture with some dipshit"
which one is which? :doge
Post by: BisMarckie on March 22, 2019, 05:12:47 AM
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Post by: Rufus on March 22, 2019, 12:06:41 PM
"Badman took a picture with some dipshit. Adults can't see that! They'll gun down innocents!"Don't think they're afraid of that, no. :doge
Can anyone make out what else is on the shirt? Seems to be a list of offensive things. Is there a punchline, or something?
edit: Found a high-res version (https://i.stack.imgur.com/ej2kG.jpg), but crucial bits are still missing. Whatever, I tried.
Post by: Oblivion on March 22, 2019, 02:11:06 PM
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Post by: team filler on March 24, 2019, 02:36:22 AM
President Santana
1 day ago
When the sniffing gets more ardent, you know he’s about to drop some potent knowledge :rejoice
Post by: Oblivion on March 24, 2019, 05:57:34 PM
Almost like people project what they hate about themselves onto others to make them feel better about themselves or something
Literally everything from this clown is projection:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2cI7V1XcAAXxHM.png:large)
:oreilly :dayum :what :crazy :cmonson :foodcourt
Post by: benjipwns on March 25, 2019, 02:57:44 AM
wat
https://twitter.com/OccupyWallSt/status/1067080921252274178
lol wat
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Post by: Nintex on March 29, 2019, 06:54:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsT1TB0nuJM
Get it before the machines remove it :fbm
Post by: team filler on March 29, 2019, 07:14:42 PM
Post by: Nintex on March 29, 2019, 07:16:54 PM
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Rogan / Jones 2024
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Alex: "That would be so hot"
Post by: Nintex on March 30, 2019, 02:54:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va8rEwULJNI
Still I think there's some truth to counter culture moving away from certain subjects.
Gaming, comic books and Star Wars used to be 'nerdy' things that the mainstream shrugged at and now everything must be for 'everyone'.
Which is part of why stuff like Dark Souls and Nier: Automata finds a niche audience, as well as the crypto memes.
Because it is genuine counter culture or going against the trend. So even if he's somewhat right, he's not looking in the right places for counter culture.
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:cat
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:lol
Post by: team filler on April 09, 2019, 09:50:11 AM
juan
juan
6 days ago
He cleaned his room in preparation for the debate... to win, he must get inside the mind of his opponent
Post by: benjipwns on April 10, 2019, 08:43:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCoUuwn8_t8
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/therapist-who-told-podcast-listeners-to-shun-their-families-reprimanded/article4846791/
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Five years ago, a Mississauga therapist named Christina Papadopoulos took part in an online podcast with her husband and described how one day she cut off contact with her parents, whose company she found phony and stifling.
Ms. Papadopoulos also said she was worried her online musings about shunning her relatives might land her in trouble with "the psychology community."
Her fears came true this week when, in an unprecedented disciplinary case, the College of Psychologists of Ontario found her guilty of professional misconduct because she used the Internet to counsel people to emulate her and sever ties with their families.
A disciplinary panel of the college heard Tuesday that Ms. Papadopoulos, a psychological associate, gave improper advice on a number podcasts made with her husband, Stefan Molyneux.
A self-described Internet philosopher, Mr. Molyneux is behind hundreds of posts, podcasts and videos on his website, Freedomain Radio, that discuss a range of topics from a libertarian mindset. "Stef and I, we have the capacity to help the world," Ms. Papadopoulos says in one podcast.
The couple has garnered little attention in Canada, but several parents from Britain and the United States have told The Globe and Mail that their children consulted Freedomain Radio, then became estranged from their families.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/controversial-podcaster-listened-in-on-therapist-wife-and-clients-lawsuit-alleges/article22158708/
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Already controversial for counselling his followers to shun their parents, a Toronto-area podcaster is facing allegations he listened in on his therapist wife as she met with distraught patients.
Stefan Molyneux is a self-described libertarian philosopher. His wife, Christina Papadopoulos, is a psychological associate in Mississauga.
The College of Psychologists of Ontario found Ms. Papadopoulos guilty of professional misconduct in November, 2012, faulting her for adopting Mr. Molyneux's views and using the Internet to counsel people to sever ties with their families.
A civil court complaint filed on Oct. 24 in California says Mr. Molyneux boasted in a 2006 podcast that he would listen while his wife talked with her patients, even interjecting and suggesting they sign up with his website.
The allegations are part of a lawsuit filed by a Texas woman who has accused Mr. Molyneux of abusively invoking U.S. copyright law to silence her criticism of his podcasts.
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Her lawsuit said one of her video criticisms quoted from a Molyneux podcast in which he said "that he listens in on his wife's confidential sessions with her patients in her home office and interferes with the therapy sessions to suggest the patients join and donate to Freedomain Radio."
The comments are not in the version of podcast 291 now on Mr. Molyneux's YouTube channel, but are in a longer version Ms. Raven provided after a request from The Globe and Mail.
In the version provided by Ms. Raven, Mr. Molyneux states that it is June 21, 2006. He then speaks about listening in as his wife meets with "messed up and sobbing" clients at her home office.
"I'm in the vent system, listening, and I'm – she calls it heckling, but I don't really call it heckling, I just call it providing suggestions about how things should go and that the people should donate to Freedomain Radio," he says in the podcast.
"I mean, it takes them a while to figure what on Earth that is, but I do, sort of, try to put my two cents in and Christina says that sometimes can be distracting and so on. But even with the combined weight of her, directly in front of them, and me, my ghostly voice floating in through the vents, they still have trouble making the kind of personal changes that really have a positive effect on their lives."
Ms. Raven says in her lawsuit that her YouTube channel was shut down after complaints from an associate of Mr. Molyneux, Michael DeMarco, who invoked the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), a U.S. law regulating intellectual property.
Under the DMCA, an Internet provider facing allegations that its clients violated copyright can avoid liability by removing the contentious content, even without investigating the validity of the complaint. As a result, so-called DMCA takedowns have been criticized as an abusive form of censorship.
"Molyneux apparently believes that it is acceptable to use the copyright laws to silence his critics – without any claimed copyright basis – by publishing false accusations," the lawsuit said, noting that Mr. Molyneux previously opposed intellectual property.
https://members.cpo.on.ca/public_register/investigation_detail/124
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The parties presented the Panel with an Agreed Statement of Facts which states as follows:
The member, Ms. Christina Papadopoulos, hereby formally admits the following facts:
The Member has been a member of the College, registered as a Psychological Associate since December 10, 1997. Since that time, the member has been authorized to provide psychological services in Ontario, and provide such services in an autonomous practice in Mississauga.
The College received two complaints concerning the Member. The first was received in June 2009 and the second was received in April 2011. A panel of the Inquiries, Complaints and Reports Committee (“ICRC”) of the College considered each complaint and disposed of it in accordance with the provisions of the Health Professions Procedural Code (the “Code”) by way of a referral, in each case, of specified allegations of misconduct arising from those complaints to the Discipline Committee of the College.
Subsequent to the referral arising out of each complaint of specified allegations of professional misconduct to the Discipline Committee, the College issued an amended Notice of Hearing, in order that, in accordance with the consent of the Member, these two related matters could proceed together by way of one consolidated hearing. There is significant overlap between the specified allegations of professional misconduct and the facts underlying those specified allegations, in each case, and accordingly, a joint hearing is the most expeditious and appropriate manner in which to proceed, given the public interest.
In the course of investigating the second complaint, the College conducted an investigation pursuant to S. 75 of the Health Professions Procedural Code, being Schedule 2 to the Regulated Health Professions Act, 1991. The investigation reviewed 10 records from the Member’s practice, and found that the Member had not recommended deFOOing to any of the clients to whom the 10 records pertained. However the Member made public statements and provided advice to the public via the website www.freedomainradio.com and podcasts available thereon, wherein she discussed and recommended “deFOOing”, or dissociating from families of origin in providing advice to specific individuals. The Member made statements and provided advice in the context of her personal experience and also while relying upon her qualifications and registration as a Psychological Associate. While providing advice to individuals, she did so without properly assessing the circumstances of the members of the internet audience to whom advice was provided.
Ms. Papadopoulos acknowledges and recognizes, that the making of personal disclosures in the context of the podcasts in which she was identified as a therapist and a registered member of the College, were capable of misinterpretation as psychological advice although she maintains that they were not intended as such.
While it may be appropriate to recommend family separation in cases of abuse, the Member did not obtain a sufficient history to ascertain whether the advice was warranted in the circumstances discussed in the podcasts. Although the Member advised that listeners seek professional help in their home communities on a number of locations, she acknowledges that this advice was given in the absence of any meeting or proper assessment, and there was significant risk of misunderstanding by members of the public and the individuals to whom the Member directed advice and comments and such misunderstandings posed a risk of harm.
The Member made general statements and provided advice, both in general terms and directed towards particular individuals that are not supported by current professional literature or consistent with the Standards. One example is the following statement, made in the context of answering the question regarding whether some people are better off single than coupled. The Member replied:
“My immediate impulsive reaction is: no one is better off single than coupled-and sometimes our impulses are correct, and sometimes are (sic) impulses are just that, and need to be explored and debated.”
“Given how dysfunctional many people are in today’s society, I’d say that it is better for them to be single. In fact I do counsel a lot of my clients not to date while they’re going through the process of therapy, because it is far too difficult to manage the relationship while you’re trying to figure yourself out, and often times those relationships will end up failing.”
“… In a perfect world where everybody is psychologically healthy, I think, you know, relationships are absolutely-can be absolutely wonderful. Very stimulating… I can only speak based on my relationships with [her husband] how enormously satisfying and fulfilling it is, and how happy we are. And, I wish that for everybody. I really, truly do… But, I don’t think it’s possibly for everybody until they are able to work through a lot of their own issues.”
Another example is the following statement, made in response to a question about why someone was attracted to women who were not interested in a romantic relationship:
“I would say that it’s because he questions himself that he ends up choosing women who are not interested in him, or-not necessarily interested in him, who are not emotionally available or whom moved him directly into a guy friend status there’s part of you, my dear friend, that doesn’t think you are worthy of having that level of intimacy, or that level of connectedness with someone. There’s a part of you, I think, that’s also quite afraid of it so you’re drawn to people who aren’t going to be able to give it to you.”
There is the risk and certainly the perception of the public, that the Member’s objectivity, competence and effectiveness were compromised by financial interests, since the Freedomain Radio website (although not the Member herself), actively solicited donations from readers and listeners, which promoted and benefited the site managed by the Member’s husband, with the suggestion that the level of donation to the website (her husband) reflect the number of podcasts listened to by any individual. The member’s private practice website (www.mississaugatherapy.com) was also accessible in the “Ask a Therapist” section of the Freedomain Radio website.
In presenting information that is not representative of the discipline of the profession of psychology, and which could be harmful to a member or members of the public, while using and relying upon her qualifications and registration as a registered Psychological Associate member of the College, the Member acted in a manner that would reasonably be regarded by members as disgraceful, dishonourable or unprofessional.
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Post by: curly on April 10, 2019, 10:11:23 PM
:drudge :drudge :drudge Nate Silver called Nassim Taleb a cuck :drudge :drudge :drudge
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1115275628390039555
Post by: benjipwns on April 10, 2019, 10:38:17 PM
and that's mostly the other people replying, i can't really figure out exactly what Taleb's complaint is even with the article he keeps referencing as he seems more upset with the fact that other people don't understand 538's probabilities and blames Nate for it because he refuses to lecture higher level statistics methods to the political media and that Nate seems to be ignoring this one Taleb paper in his writeups for a casual audience... and Taleb wouldn't respond directly to Nate for months until just the other day which led to this so it's even harder to figure out what he wants
Taleb sure references his and Nate's number of followers a lot though
Post by: curly on April 11, 2019, 12:11:40 AM
Post by: Oblivion on April 11, 2019, 01:32:40 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2tt1jlWsAEgkWt.jpg)
I thought Blaire said she was going to stop being involved in politics after she found out that some of her shitty anti-trans conservative friends weren't genuinely anti-trans enough?
Post by: toku on April 13, 2019, 10:32:37 PM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on April 17, 2019, 03:33:11 PM
and, in wankdad-adjacent news: https://amp.theguardian.com/culture/2019/apr/10/roger-scruton-calls-for-dismissal-islamophobiad-soros-remarks
Post by: chronovore on April 18, 2019, 04:38:46 AM
'It seems to me that the packed Cambridge Union auditorium, the intelligent questioning associated with the lecture, and the overwhelming number of views the subsequently posted video accrued, indicates that there a number of Cambridge students are very interested in what I have to say, and might well regard my visit “as a valuable contribution to the University.”'https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_popularity
Post by: Oblivion on April 18, 2019, 02:27:37 PM
https://twitter.com/hanton_jeff/status/1118549529047887872
Post by: curly on April 18, 2019, 02:35:03 PM
Post by: Oblivion on April 18, 2019, 03:36:58 PM
Wait Shapiro wouldn't attend a marriage between a Jew and a non-Jew???
Yeah, I was surprised about too, but then not really.
Post by: Nintex on April 18, 2019, 03:40:43 PM
Alex: "Strike me down and I will become more powerful than you can ever imagine"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17FbayPa6-8
Post by: Oblivion on April 19, 2019, 07:13:25 PM
Post by: Oblivion on April 19, 2019, 08:09:21 PM
LINK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGRC5AA1wF0
Post by: Oblivion on April 20, 2019, 12:30:14 AM
It was actually way better than I thought, and Zizek really came through.
Post by: agrajag on April 20, 2019, 12:44:01 AM
:boring
spoiler (click to show/hide)
I'll probably watch it later
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Post by: agrajag on April 20, 2019, 01:07:03 AM
That student's name? Benjamin Pwns
Post by: Oblivion on April 20, 2019, 01:49:49 AM
https://twitter.com/HOSTAGEKlLLER/status/1119367322379202562
Post by: curly on April 20, 2019, 02:00:16 AM
Post by: Oblivion on April 20, 2019, 02:16:58 AM
From what I hear Peterson went to the Manifesto because he thought it was the definitive Marxist document which goes to show what an intellectual scrub he is
he also decided to go with that cause it was the shortest
Post by: Crash Dummy on April 20, 2019, 07:06:49 AM
https://twitter.com/ironicrep/status/1119453681093681153 (https://twitter.com/ironicrep/status/1119453681093681153)
Post by: agrajag on April 20, 2019, 09:55:38 AM
From what I hear Peterson went to the Manifesto because he thought it was the definitive Marxist document which goes to show what an intellectual scrub he is
he also decided to go with that cause it was the shortest
Did he get the audiobook version? :doge
Post by: Nintex on April 20, 2019, 01:10:59 PM
Post by: Oblivion on April 20, 2019, 03:03:41 PM
Post by: Crash Dummy on April 20, 2019, 03:24:23 PM
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Post by: team filler on April 20, 2019, 04:18:25 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/w23czXt.png):-[
Post by: BisMarckie on April 20, 2019, 04:19:10 PM
Post by: Oblivion on April 20, 2019, 04:29:10 PM
Post by: shosta on April 20, 2019, 04:29:55 PM
I'll have to watch when I'm back in the country but I'm sure JoPe got owned even if Zizek is an incoherent hack
haven't watched yet but can't waitI'm at 2:23:00 and it still sucks, just don't watch if you respect your time.
Post by: BisMarckie on April 20, 2019, 04:33:30 PM
I'm at 2:23:00 and it still sucks, just don't watch if you respect your time.
Hang on. Do people here really watch amateur philosophers 'debate' for hours?
I though the whole wank dad thing is just getting funny soundbites and tweets. :stahp
Post by: team filler on April 20, 2019, 04:34:34 PM
Post by: agrajag on April 20, 2019, 04:38:46 PM
Post by: shosta on April 20, 2019, 04:41:01 PM
Hang on. Do people here really watch amateur philosophers 'debate' for hours?I'll watch hours of zizek videos just to find that one ten second dirty joke :doge
I though the whole wank dad thing is just getting funny soundbites and tweets. :stahp
Post by: agrajag on April 20, 2019, 04:43:34 PM
Post by: BisMarckie on April 20, 2019, 04:48:42 PM
pretty sure they get paid for their wankery breh
Stoicists like Seneca would say that a true wise man and philosopher would never take money for their philosophical teachings.
Therefore amateurs. :ufup
:snob
Post by: agrajag on April 20, 2019, 04:52:18 PM
Post by: BisMarckie on April 20, 2019, 04:53:58 PM
Seneca can suck my hog!
That's what Nero said. :trumps
Post by: team filler on April 20, 2019, 05:52:54 PM
Post by: agrajag on April 20, 2019, 06:03:23 PM
https://www.resetera.com/threads/jordan-peterson-the-intellectual-we-deserve.30669/post-20026797
:lol
:derp :nintendo :derp :nintendo :derp :nintendo
Post by: BisMarckie on April 20, 2019, 06:05:49 PM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on April 20, 2019, 06:19:35 PM
So i guess it all went according to keikaku?
Post by: agrajag on April 20, 2019, 06:33:35 PM
Post by: shosta on April 20, 2019, 06:34:38 PM
Post by: shosta on April 20, 2019, 06:54:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVwKjGbz60k
Post by: Crash Dummy on April 21, 2019, 03:38:56 AM
watching at work now and just got through jp's opening statement - dude hasn't done any of the reading you would have assumed one would do not just to prepare for this debate but to have a base level of credibility as a public dank web intellectual, so instead does some weird attempted psychological reading of marx and engels before lapsing into his usual talking points? wtf? zizek should be able run rings around this clownI'll have to watch when I'm back in the country but I'm sure JoPe got owned even if Zizek is an incoherent hackhaven't watched yet but can't waitI'm at 2:23:00 and it still sucks, just don't watch if you respect your time.
Post by: Crash Dummy on April 21, 2019, 06:13:39 AM
pretty sure they get paid for their wankery brehi think zizek said that he's going to donate his share from ticket sales to charity
Post by: benjipwns on April 21, 2019, 07:11:38 PM
also talk about spoilers in the title, we already know "Capitalism" is winning the debate simply by the fact that they're selling tickets to Zizek rambling and mocking Peterson and whatever other random topics come into his head for two hourscorrect
Zizek won't debate or stay on topic anyway, he's fundamentally incapable of it. This is why Peterson's obsession with him is so great. He thinks Zizek is the postmodern Marxist dragon that if he can just somehow battle it he can forever end totalitarianism by besting it in debate. When Zizek can't commit to anything that's not currently attracting his attention by being shiny.shockingly incorrect
It's like the ultimate endgame of Peterson's whole mile wide, centimeter deep adventure.
Peterson should just debate an actual raccoon instead.still most correct
Post by: benjipwns on April 21, 2019, 07:15:19 PM
When you have read Marx's ethnological notebooks, you realize that he was a complete hack. :trashI think this is actually close to Zizek's usual position on Marx and why he doesn't like to call himself a Marxist. He likes the critique but thinks the rest is distracting nonsense. Notice in the clip Esch posted, he doesn't mention Capital, only the articles from a certain period. IIRC, this is closer to his actual position than defending it all, which he probably realized early on he thankfully didn't have to do thanks to Peterson being an
Post by: shosta on April 21, 2019, 09:28:52 PM
Post by: benjipwns on April 21, 2019, 10:02:48 PM
hell, at this point I'm not even sure that Peterson has looked up Marx on wikipedia
now I'm kinda curious how his full fledged fans are taking this, but I don't exactly know where to go to find Peterson fans, reddit I guess? the "I like Peterson cuz he hates people I do" circles I sometimes visit seem to be agreeing with more left and other places that he mostly embarrassed himself for no real advantage outside of the money
Post by: agrajag on April 21, 2019, 10:04:10 PM
Post by: benjipwns on April 21, 2019, 10:33:08 PM
"why do you support Marxist crimes like the Holodomor?"
"but i don't"
"but why don't you? checkmate :smug"
Post by: Mandark on April 21, 2019, 10:50:14 PM
It's like poetry, it rhymes.
Post by: team filler on April 21, 2019, 10:52:51 PM
Post by: Himu on April 21, 2019, 10:55:34 PM
apparently wank daddy just read his first piece of marxist lit like three-four days ago after years of railing against marxists and marxism. He doesn't even know the basics of his opponents arguments and he acts like he's some fucking philosopher lmao
Post by: benjipwns on April 21, 2019, 11:03:45 PM
Post by: Himu on April 21, 2019, 11:04:00 PM
Post by: Himu on April 21, 2019, 11:08:32 PM
I always thought attacking just The Manifesto was something like only Fox News hosts did because their audience doesn't really care about it, but then the last two years have disabused me of this notion, regarding people of all kinds of different levels of sympathy towards "socialist" ideas :doge
At the very least be familiar with the Manifesto, but also Das Kapital, and Why Socialism by Einstein. Much of this shit is free! :lol And this was a tenured professor.
(https://i.imgur.com/PNzhX18.gif)
Post by: toku on April 21, 2019, 11:19:58 PM
now I'm kinda curious how his full fledged fans are taking this, but I don't exactly know where to go to find Peterson fans, reddit I guess? the "I like Peterson cuz he hates people I do" circles I sometimes visit seem to be agreeing with more left and other places that he mostly embarrassed himself for no real advantage outside of the money
I casually browsed the jp subreddit after the debate and it's hard to get a real read on what ''''''they'''''' think because it's getting brigaded by chapotraphouse fans engaging in the Protracted Poster's War and counter flooded with by the regulars with memes about gulags.
There was some acknowledgement of JP being unprepared. And also weird weird people imitating JPs entire mythic affect responding to irony poisoned ancom types with "BEGONE FOUL DEMON" gandalfspeak.
Edit: and honestly, a lot of them played up how nice and civil it was and the things they agree on like political correctness, claiming that it was a "great discussion" etc etc. Which is what it is since Zizek didn't press him at all.
Did you see that bit last week where the chapo sub was in a tizzy because the chapo dudes told somebody it was actually okay to have kids despite climate change?
Post by: benjipwns on April 21, 2019, 11:27:40 PM
One thing I noticed in watching this is that JoPe didn't seem to have any awareness of different interpretations or schools of Marxism or his intellectual successors.Usually a good sign for that is when a person seems to want to blame Marx, personally, for everything. When the real world criminals like Lenin, Stalin, Mao, etc. all did their own accurate discovery of the scientific principles of TRUE Marxism. If you can't even recognize this difference with huge figures of history, you'll never get to the internecine academic Marxist wars...
Even if Peterson had bothered to read the very good historiography that's attached to Penguin Books' version of The Manifesto he would have realized that Engels rewrote tons of stuff including translations of The Manifesto in Marx's name after he was long dead. I have to imagine from the fact that Peterson is a tenured and apparently once respected PhD, this would have set off alarm bells no matter how far away from his field he's going. Even if he was being too lazy to read anything else but The Manifesto. Or even apparently wiki The Manifesto. (So perhaps I am being fantastical in imaging him reading a book.)
One thing I personally like to emphasize when teaching The Manifesto is how it was written in response to political events, namely the wave of 1848 Revolutions. Both Marx and Engels wanted to get it out and read, they would finesse any details or theory later. It's almost irresponsible* to treat the work as standing alone and disconnected from these events.
*in the historian/academic parlance of "not actually important" except to nerds
Post by: shosta on April 21, 2019, 11:37:54 PM
One thing I personally like to emphasize when teaching The Manifestoin what context do you teach the manifesto, aren't you primarily american history ???
Post by: benjipwns on April 21, 2019, 11:45:37 PM
There's a valid non-benji reason for this. I only have a masters, history is far far more PhD dominated. Poli sci almost lets any moron with a masters in power.
I personally teach tons more history in any version of a poli sci course I do except methods. Ten times as much or more depending on how deficient the others are at this. At a former place, neither of the other Intro to American Politics instructors taught any form of history in the course except Presidential elections back to 1960 or so, and a brief day on the Constitution debates.
Most Intro to Poli Sci aka 100/101 teaches a brief section on ideologies/similar, covering liberalism (John Stuart Mill/John Locke liberalism), communism, etc.
Post by: benjipwns on April 21, 2019, 11:49:45 PM
oops, wasn't supposed to reveal that
I do cheat, for Communism, the recommended reading is something like The Communist Manifesto (they just ask why if you don't include it), Critique of the Gotha Program and The Conquest of Bread/Mutual Aid :teehee
Post by: shosta on April 21, 2019, 11:56:57 PM
Post by: benjipwns on April 21, 2019, 11:58:29 PM
I think Poli Sci needs historiography courses worse sometimes because at least history departments actually have them. That article I linked in the Lassiez Faire thread and told nobody to read gets into some of that. Also another thing that poli sci is starting to talk about similarly is how entire topics are just flat out ignored. From that book I mentioned in the book thread, I learned and confirmed that The American Political Science Review has only published one article on intelligence. Of any kind, policy, process or other. Ever. In 113 years. It's also never published an article about climate change and a whole bunch of other technology related fields that are similar to climate change policy direction/discussion.
edit: here's that article so anyone else who might be interested doesn't have to dig it up: https://www.chronicle.com/article/How-Political-Science-Became/245777/
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According to a Teaching, Research & International Policy Project survey, a regular poll of international-relations scholars, very few believe they should not contribute to policy making in some way. Yet a majority also recognize that the state-of-the-art approaches of academic social science are precisely those approaches that policy makers find least helpful. A related poll of senior national-security decision-makers confirmed that, for the most part, academic social science is not giving them what they want.
The problem, in a nutshell, is that scholars increasingly privilege rigor over relevance. That has become strikingly apparent in the subfield of international security (the part of political science that once most successfully balanced those tensions), and has now fully permeated political science as a whole. This skewed set of intellectual priorities — and the field’s transition into a cult of the irrelevant — is the unintended result of disciplinary professionalization.
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That increasing tendency to embrace methods and models for their own sake rather than because they can help us answer substantively important questions is, I believe, a misstep for the field. This trend is in part the result of the otherwise normal and productive workings of science, but it is also reinforced by less legitimate motives, particularly organizational self-interest and the particularities of our intellectual culture.I was surprised at how positive this article was received in the field, even with all the usual caveats
While the use of statistics and formal models is not by definition irrelevant, their edging out of qualitative approaches has over time made the discipline less relevant to policy makers. Many pressing policy questions are not readily amenable to the preferred methodological tools of political scientists. Qualitative case studies most often produce the research that policy makers need, and yet the field is moving away from them.
In addition to the growing dogma among many political scientists that scholars can achieve rigor only by using a narrow set of techniques, other factors compound today’s cult of the irrelevant. For instance, many social scientists eschew policy relevance on the grounds that it is incompatible with scientific objectivity. Objectivity, for them, means that social-science research has to be "value-free," concerning itself only with establishing and analyzing the facts about what "is" and avoiding any discussion of what "ought" to be. A social-scientific consensus has emerged: Objectivity precludes policy engagement because the latter is inextricably linked with questions of value.
Post by: VomKriege on April 22, 2019, 08:40:52 AM
Wank Dad cancelled, now Aron is my new Clausewitzian Daddy.
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 22, 2019, 09:51:24 AM
Post by: BisMarckie on April 22, 2019, 02:10:53 PM
Teaching anything about Communism/Marxism in a way that seems not negative is how you expose the College Republicans. It's the one thing you're always taught in Graduate School Political Science.
oops, wasn't supposed to reveal that
I do cheat, for Communism, the recommended reading is something like The Communist Manifesto (they just ask why if you don't include it), Critique of the Gotha Program and The Conquest of Bread/Mutual Aid :teehee
Recommended reading is a great way to troll students who never attend. Like only listing the Latin untranslated edition of Cicero's De Legibus in the syllabus. :rejoice
Post by: Nintex on April 22, 2019, 04:19:12 PM
Post by: Crash Dummy on April 23, 2019, 04:22:15 AM
Zizek and Daddy P liked eachother. They'll get their own Netflix show for sure.i think daddy p was more enamored by zizek than the other way around; i listened/watched in the background and noticed some subtle (pointing out orthodoxy is also a very short book)/not so subtle jabs by zizek ("i'm not saying you're an idiot and don't know what you're talking about" and asking for names of any pomo neo marxists)
Post by: Oblivion on April 23, 2019, 08:12:55 PM
After reading about this debate, I'm now convinced Daddy P did not intentionally misrepresent the "compelled speech" law and make a new career out of it, but he actually likely didn't read the bill at all (and most assuredly still hasn't) and just assumed that's what it said because he heard it somewhere. He's truly exposed as a hack fraud who lucked into this life and has been winging it ever since.
Well, that wouldn't be surprising since the guy literally wasn't aware that the bill included anything other than pronoun tyranny (the main goal of the bill was to protect trans people from getting fired/not being able to get housing/including them in hate crimes if they get murdered/etc.).
Post by: Brehvolution on April 24, 2019, 09:00:43 AM
After reading about this debate, I'm now convinced Daddy P did not intentionally misrepresent the "compelled speech" law and make a new career out of it, but he actually likely didn't read the bill at all (and most assuredly still hasn't) and just assumed that's what it said because he heard it somewhere. He's truly exposed as a hack fraud who lucked into this life and has been winging it ever since.
The only credentials needed to be a hero of the alt right.
Post by: BisMarckie on April 24, 2019, 09:07:34 AM
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Post by: Nintex on April 25, 2019, 01:48:52 PM
https://twitter.com/MarkDiStef/status/1121440688263053313 (https://twitter.com/MarkDiStef/status/1121440688263053313)
Post by: agrajag on April 25, 2019, 01:56:49 PM
"White people are supposed to act like this"
:huh
Post by: shosta on April 25, 2019, 02:44:15 PM
Post by: Himu on April 25, 2019, 03:30:16 PM
One thing I never understood was how the "skeptic community" became a part of the new right. I don't understand the link.
Usually islam.
"We should not tolerate religion" -> "Islam is a threat to us and breeds intolerance" -> "Island is a threat to western values" -> "Christianity isn't that bad after all and is a part of our western values unlike Islam" -> "hey mom, I'm alt right"
One thing I never understood was how the "skeptic community" became a part of the new right. I don't understand the link.
You've never met a "race realist" quoting bell curves and black crime stats in your life? I envy you for it.
That's low-key Sam Harris entire grift.
There's that too.
"Blacks have a low IQ" -> "Blacks represent a sizable portion of crime statistics" -> "I support black people having access to abortion as it will make them less poor over all" (usually a cover for eugenics support)
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 25, 2019, 04:22:35 PM
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Post by: BisMarckie on April 25, 2019, 04:41:21 PM
I think it's also a matter a matter of looking at things in a binary way without allowing for much nuance and a mixture of views. Like Nintex can be considered alt-right here, a Nazi on Re, but a a bleeding heart college intellectual on Voat. People do exist in gray areas, guys.
Nintex isn‘t alt-right or whatever at all. He just thinks Trump is hilarious, which he kinda is. He also enjoys writing shitty fanfiction and being a low quality troll.
Post by: BisMarckie on April 25, 2019, 04:47:34 PM
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Post by: agrajag on April 25, 2019, 05:04:45 PM
I never understood the skeptic community‘s raison d‘etre. It always struck me as something inherently American, since you couldn‘t score edgelord points here for atheism since Feuerbach.
breh you think that's bad? I've been bombarded with Youtube recommendations of rational skeptics debunking "flat earth theories" lately.
:neogaf :usacry
Post by: BisMarckie on April 25, 2019, 05:07:11 PM
Like nobody ever believed that the Earth was flat, but they adopted this popular culture myth. :doge
Post by: shosta on April 25, 2019, 05:15:55 PM
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Post by: jakefromstatefarm on April 25, 2019, 05:22:09 PM
Part of the Quillette** crowd are those Charles Murray HBD types who think we can read racial essentialism directly off of the natural world; the upshot always being a vindication of purse-clutching caucasoid common sense. And those guys should probably be contrasted with the deus vult guys or the Petersons of the world who think they’ve found ancient scrawlings in dingo poop that justify women being housewives, or whatever.
One interesting way I think you can divy it up is by (perceived) intellectual lineage. They both see The WestTM as sacrosanct/under crisis/whatever, but the scientism crowd thinks the parts of The WestTM that are worth preserving only extend to about John Locke, or so. Where the other crowd really buys into the Judaeo-Christian civilization myth and thinks that the battle of Tours and the sieges of Vienna are singularly defining world-historical events. You see a lot of people in either camp claiming to be ‘classically liberal’ despite not evincing any of the radical spirit that animated 19th century British utilitarianism. Because they haven’t read Bentham or Mill or Sidgwick. Or really anyone else, for that matter.
*although the imperial apologia is always there, cf. hitchens supporting the war in Iraq
**who are now publishing content by legit marxists? Wtf? I just saw this yesterday, they’ve been shifting over the past couple weeks or so; can’t tell if their cynically diversifying their bonds or what
Post by: BisMarckie on April 25, 2019, 05:22:33 PM
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Post by: jakefromstatefarm on April 25, 2019, 05:40:25 PM
Quote from: jakefromstatefarm
...the scientism crowd thinks the parts of The WestTM that are worth preserving only extend to about John Locke, or so. Where the other crowd really buys into the Judaeo-Christian civilization myth...so, e.g., Pinker and Dawkins, while not being alt-right and not clearly even normal-right, dovetail really nicely with the first group, but have no common stock with the second.
Also a lot (although i couldn't tell you who) of people just have incoherent worldviews / ideology. I have a friend who is as radlib + idpol centric as it gets but loves Sam Harris and keeps a library's worth of anti-muslim factoids in her brain.dont know your friend, obv, but I’m willing to bet this is because that Harrisite secular liberal shtick itself is high-key idpol
Post by: Himu on April 25, 2019, 05:53:50 PM
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Post by: BisMarckie on April 25, 2019, 06:06:30 PM
For some reason I thought Sargon was black...
You‘re thinking of famous youtuber videogamedunkey. :ufup
Post by: agrajag on April 25, 2019, 06:20:16 PM
:bobby
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on April 25, 2019, 06:37:15 PM
Quote from: Esch
I'm listening :gopnik go onSo full disclosure, I’m on record (http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=44608.msg2513124#msg2513124) saying that I don’t think a politics that doesn’t mobilize ‘identity’ is really possible given i) what the modern self is and ii) what modern politics are/have always been. So there’s a strong, tendentious claim I’d make that any stance claiming neutrality wrt idpol -like in the case of the detached objective outside observer that utilitarians are so fond of- is just gonna recapitulate the received common sense of a certain milieu. Anti-idpol is the idpol of hegemony, or something like this. In Harris’ case, it’s secular, liberal, white, wealthy, cosmopolitan reason repackaged as what everyone would arrive at if they were being sufficiently rational.
But there’s a weaker claim without all the tendentious horseshit. He’s openly considered bomb-striking third world brown people for their thought-crimes. There’s also his Californiafied yoga as health and wellness shit that fits snugly with (wait for it(http://i.imgur.com/bQfhiUM.png)) neoliberal technologies of self-improvement.
Post by: toku on April 25, 2019, 06:38:13 PM
Post by: Oblivion on April 25, 2019, 09:28:53 PM
:rofl
Rubin continues to be a fucking loser
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Post by: Crash Dummy on April 26, 2019, 03:42:01 AM
I had a gay conservative for a roommate once. I talked to him at length about it, which was kind of rude in retrospect, but he was definitely cognizant that "his side" didn't always have his back and that the tradeoff was hard at times. Luckily, he was white!the unbearable whiteness of being :'(
Post by: VomKriege on April 26, 2019, 04:45:00 AM
I think self designated skeptics feature prominently right now with the "Alt Right" because that movement (insofar as it "exists" as an entity), fancies itself as revolutionary, speaking truth to power and are trying to get accepted as legitimate and rational. And in a Western world where everything seems to be more and more framed into a binary of "Responsible Adults" Vs "The Populists", any intellectual discourse challenging the statu quo can rapidly spin you into the latter, whatever the intent.
I guess the TLDR is "Do political correctness exist, is its enforcement more strict and is it counterproductive."
Post by: benjipwns on April 26, 2019, 06:09:33 PM
I still think this is more humiliating for him. I feel awful just watching it.this clip makes it sound like Dave Rubin actually tried to spring a "gay-ish" orgy on Ben Shaprio in the past
https://twitter.com/hanton_jeff/status/1118549529047887872
this is now canon
Post by: benjipwns on April 27, 2019, 06:56:26 AM
Peterson didn't just blow off reading Marx, he doesn't seem to have even bothered to get into any critiques of Marx specifically. He seems to more have read a critique of "socialism" generally and extrapolated from there after hearing about "cultural marxism" from somewhere. I can't say that I get the impression he's really ever said "I should find out what everyone before me has said Marx got wrong." In other words, he skipped the Lit Review. (And methods. Unless "do not bother children when they are skateboarding" and "do not let your children do anything that makes you dislike them" is a unique form of methodology I am unfamiliar with.)
I get YouTubers and Sean Hannity thinking they're the first to ever really break apart Marxism, socialism and their related ideas, but dude's a tenured PhD. Now I really want someone to figure out how to present a description of Peterson's whole "crusade" to himself asking his take as a clinical psychologist.
Post by: benjipwns on April 27, 2019, 10:42:02 AM
Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 27, 2019, 10:46:59 AM
I think he's read Gulag Archipelago and The Black Book of Communism.
I think he put Gulag Archipelago and The Road to Wigan Pier as his must read books on his blog/website.
Edit: https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/books/book-list/?id=1045002
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on April 27, 2019, 11:54:04 AM
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Post by: BisMarckie on April 27, 2019, 12:22:06 PM
aww so cute, can we adopt it?
We already have Kara.
Wait a minute, has anyone seen Kara and Zizek in the same place?
Post by: Rufus on April 27, 2019, 02:43:39 PM
Post by: Himu on April 27, 2019, 05:18:26 PM
Post by: curly on April 27, 2019, 05:56:59 PM
https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/bret-easton-ellis-thinks-youre-overreacting-to-donald-trump (https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/bret-easton-ellis-thinks-youre-overreacting-to-donald-trump)
Post by: Himu on April 27, 2019, 06:09:30 PM
https://www.wordonfire.org/peterson/
Post by: Rufus on April 27, 2019, 06:28:39 PM
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You came to the defense of Roseanne Barr, saying that she denied, after tweeting racist stuff about Valerie Jarrett, knowing Valerie Jarrett was black.wat :derp
Did she say that? That she didn’t know she was black?
You say it in the book.
Yeah, right, I quoted her.
"I'm not that political" :wankmoji
Post by: curly on April 27, 2019, 06:40:50 PM
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You are a novelist. You write about the human condition. Do you worry about the self-harm of people who see things like child separation and have no emotional response?
I think I am an absurdist. I think politics are ridiculous.
Maybe don’t write a book about it. Would that be the solution?
I think the problem is that I don’t necessarily see this as interesting as fiction.
Yeah, I could tell.
It was much more interesting to me to write this as a nonfiction book, in terms of pulling this stuff from my podcast.
Thanks so much for talking.
It’s interesting to have that back-and-forth pull in an interview. The only problem, however, is that I am not that political, and so, when we have this conversation, and you confront me with certain things like this, I really am, I have to say, at a loss.
:mindblown
Post by: Himu on April 27, 2019, 06:43:27 PM
How do you write an entire book on a subject you don't care about and apparently haven't thought about at all?
Quick $$$
Bill O'Reilly has a ton of books.
Post by: Rufus on April 27, 2019, 06:55:22 PM
Post by: shosta on April 27, 2019, 07:33:47 PM
this clip makes it sound like Dave Rubin actually tried to spring a "gay-ish" orgy on Ben Shaprio in the past(https://i.imgur.com/UBQT6C0.jpg)
"I'll just watch"
Post by: benjipwns on April 27, 2019, 09:11:16 PM
How do you write an entire book on a subject you don't care about and apparently haven't thought about at all?Was that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you, I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, ‘cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time.
Post by: Oblivion on April 27, 2019, 11:20:42 PM
This interview is amazing:
https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/bret-easton-ellis-thinks-youre-overreacting-to-donald-trump (https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/bret-easton-ellis-thinks-youre-overreacting-to-donald-trump)
That interviewer rocks. I love how he doesn't even bother hiding his contempt for BEE.
It's really amazing how accurate the "I'm not really into politics = I'm secretly either solidly or comfortably conservative" meme is. I don't think I've met anyone who says they don't really care about politics who was secretly really liberal.
Post by: El Babua on April 27, 2019, 11:55:26 PM
Post by: curly on April 29, 2019, 08:38:22 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on May 01, 2019, 08:16:44 PM
I still think this is more humiliating for him. I feel awful just watching it.
https://twitter.com/hanton_jeff/status/1118549529047887872
I don't know... In the moment, or?
What followed on in that live stream is definitely worse than anything Ben Shapiro thinks about it. Ben Shapiro at least is quite happy to associate with gay people he just believes marriage should be for a man and woman. The other guy seemed really unhappy with even sitting in the same room as him.
Post by: Mandark on May 01, 2019, 08:29:30 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on May 01, 2019, 09:24:28 PM
This is a clip of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmihGvY8NIk
Post by: Oblivion on May 02, 2019, 05:30:23 AM
Some time afterwards, Ben's position on gay marriage "evolved" and suddenly transformed from bog standard hoity toity conservative to hip, young "libertarian". Ben 2.0 apparently came to the realization that he doesn't care about gay marriage after all. And by "doesn't care", I mean he still wants it to be illegal, but only if a state decides to make it that way.
Post by: Brehvolution on May 02, 2019, 09:13:53 AM
Post by: Brehvolution on May 02, 2019, 10:54:33 AM
No one cares what ben thinks or says.
Unfortunately this isn't really true, he has almost double the followers of JORP on social media who is the loose central subject of these threads. I would say he's the most popular IDWer maybe.
None of these people '''''''matter'''''''' aside from culture wars, but the wars must be fought :usa
Half the followers are bots and a good portion of the rest are people who just want to rage at him.
Post by: Brehvolution on May 02, 2019, 12:58:15 PM
No one cares what ben thinks or says.
Unfortunately this isn't really true, he has almost double the followers of JORP on social media who is the loose central subject of these threads. I would say he's the most popular IDWer maybe.
None of these people '''''''matter'''''''' aside from culture wars, but the wars must be fought :usa
Half the followers are bots and a good portion of the rest are people who just want to rage at him.
If a significant amount of people want to rage at him, he matters.
Ilhan Omar was retweeting stuff implying that he directly influenced the Canadian mass shooter.
:yeshrug
That's his target audience.
Post by: Rufus on May 02, 2019, 01:08:44 PM
Lil Ben looks so angry all the timeMaking up for his baby face.
Post by: agrajag on May 02, 2019, 04:15:46 PM
pouring one out for the Bore's freeze peach warriors and their losses in the battle of ideas
Post by: toku on May 02, 2019, 04:56:48 PM
Post by: Nintex on May 02, 2019, 06:25:35 PM
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Accounts that continue to share information from InfoWars will also face potential bans, The Atlantic reported, and all InfoWars content will be removed from Facebook’s platforms.:rogan
Post by: benjipwns on May 02, 2019, 10:38:01 PM
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/facebook-ban-infowars-alex-jones-milo-yiannopoulos-louis-farrakhan-islam-a8897221.html
pouring one out for the Bore's freeze peach warriors and their losses in the battle of ideas
Quote from: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/05/02/facebook-bans-extremist-leaders-including-louis-farrakhan-alex-jones-milo-yiannopoulos-being-dangerous/
Facebook bans far-right leaders including Louis Farrakhan, Alex Jones, Milo Yiannopoulos
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Correction: Louis Farrakhan is an extremist leader who has espoused anti-Semitic views. An earlier version of this story and headline incorrectly included him in a list of far-right leaders.
Post by: team filler on May 02, 2019, 11:38:23 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 02, 2019, 11:43:59 PM
Post by: Mandark on May 02, 2019, 11:55:40 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 03, 2019, 12:33:32 AM
Post by: Leadbelly on May 03, 2019, 12:57:28 PM
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/facebook-ban-infowars-alex-jones-milo-yiannopoulos-louis-farrakhan-islam-a8897221.html
pouring one out for the Bore's freeze peach warriors and their losses in the battle of ideasQuote from: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/05/02/facebook-bans-extremist-leaders-including-louis-farrakhan-alex-jones-milo-yiannopoulos-being-dangerous/Facebook bans far-right leaders including Louis Farrakhan, Alex Jones, Milo YiannopoulosQuoteCorrection: Louis Farrakhan is an extremist leader who has espoused anti-Semitic views. An earlier version of this story and headline incorrectly included him in a list of far-right leaders.
lol
Correction: Louis Farrakhan has got oppression points for being black and we don't want to jump into that minefield, so off he goes...
Seriously though, in most people's mind 'far-right' still practically means white supremacist or neo-nazi, etc. However, it has been so consistently misused against a whole swathe of people that it has now lost all meaning. And that just makes it funny because if Louis Farrakhan was white then no one would give a shit about him being labelled 'far-right'. However, now, all of a sudden, people are far more specific about how far-right is defined. Alex Jones though, he's far-right. I mean, no matter what you think of Alex Jones, he's not far-right.
It just goes to show how strictly or broadly people will define 'far-right' when it suits them. lol.
Post by: curly on May 03, 2019, 01:04:05 PM
Post by: Rufus on May 03, 2019, 01:11:00 PM
Seriously though, in most people's mind 'far-right' still practically means white supremacist or neo-nazi, etc. However, it has been so consistently misused against a whole swathe of people that it has now lost all meaning.How do you reconcile these two statements?
Post by: Leadbelly on May 03, 2019, 01:32:53 PM
It wasn't liberals who were complaining about Farrakhan being called far-right
It doesn't matter who it was complaining. It might have been Farrakhan himself who complained. What is telling is the retraction. The Independant was perectly understanding of the complaints it seems after all. In other words, they're quite happy to use the term quite broadly when it suits them, but they seem to understand the connotation of far-right with white supremacist all of a sudden.
Of course they do, because really it is used to smear people. That is really what I am hinting at.
Post by: Leadbelly on May 03, 2019, 01:34:11 PM
Seriously though, in most people's mind 'far-right' still practically means white supremacist or neo-nazi, etc. However, it has been so consistently misused against a whole swathe of people that it has now lost all meaning.How do you reconcile these two statements?
Err? I''m not even sure you follow my point...
Post by: Rufus on May 03, 2019, 01:44:54 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on May 03, 2019, 02:05:17 PM
If the misuse of 'far-right' has eroded its meaning, how do you figure that it still means white supremacist or neo-nazi in most people's minds?
In the average person's mind people still associate the term with white supremacist. The media, particularly the left-wing media, and left-wing activists are now using the term far more broadly. So for example, if you label Alex Jones, far-right, then as you say, you are eroding the meaning of far-right, or rather, expanding the meaning actually.
And actually I was hinting at this being merely a tool to smear people. They know perfectly well that connotation which is why they were so quick to retract.
Post by: Rufus on May 03, 2019, 02:10:37 PM
In other words, they're quite happy to use the term quite broadly when it suits them, but they seem to understand the connotation of far-right with white supremacist all of a sudden.I think in this case it was far-right = anti-semite that was the clincher.
Post by: team filler on May 03, 2019, 02:13:49 PM
Post by: nachobro on May 03, 2019, 02:17:19 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on May 03, 2019, 02:53:53 PM
OK. Now I understand what you were trying to say.In other words, they're quite happy to use the term quite broadly when it suits them, but they seem to understand the connotation of far-right with white supremacist all of a sudden.I think in this case it was far-right = anti-semite that was the clincher.
In terms of why he was on the list in the first place? I think if he was white, being an anti-semite would be good enough reason to suggest they are far-right. You can understand why he may be on a list like that. Especially considering the way the term is thrown about by the media. I just found it funny how explicitly they would then disassociate him from the far-right, yet not even blink about others they would label with that term. I understand why they retracted, but the reason why they retracted means they understand the connotation of that term. and if this is the case, does that mean they will be more careful when using the term? I don't think so... lol
Post by: curly on May 03, 2019, 03:10:57 PM
Is it the equating of far-right with white supremacy that's the slur, or is it the changing of that association?
Kinda think Leadbelly made an assumption about who was mad and ran with it, then when he learned he was wrong kept going anyways
Post by: curly on May 03, 2019, 03:13:59 PM
Post by: agrajag on May 03, 2019, 03:21:25 PM
Post by: curly on May 03, 2019, 03:37:25 PM
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I’m not an anti-Semite. I’m anti-Termite.
Doesn't seem that contraver--oh never mind I see what he's going for there.
Post by: Leadbelly on May 03, 2019, 03:58:55 PM
Still pretty confused how Ben Shapiro objecting to the WaPo describing Farrakhan as far-right and them capitulating is evidence that the left is using the term to slur their opponents
Is it the equating of far-right with white supremacy that's the slur, or is it the changing of that association?
Kinda think Leadbelly made an assumption about who was mad and ran with it, then when he learned he was wrong kept going anyways
I had no idea who the person was who complained. Didn't even bother to check. In fact I wasn't even able to view the article. It was blocked. May I ask the reason Ben Shapiro complained? .
Again the person who complained is irrelevant. It is pretty clear to me that many people labelled by the media as far-right, or alt-right aren't actually that. The way far-right has been used in recent years by the media is broader than in previous years.
Someone else on that list, Alex Jones, is not far-right. He is a right-wing conspiracy nut. He is not a white supremacist. Farrakhan is a blatant anti-semite, Alex Jones is not. Funnily enough Ben Shapiro has been labelled far-right or alt-right on a number of occasions. Far right is thrown about quite casually it seems. However, they were very quick correct the notion that farrakhan was far-right. Here's where I made an assumption; they fely obliged to make the retraction because he is black, and therefore technically can't actually be a white supremacist. Which is true. But if they are willing to acknowledge that being a white supremacist is a prerequisite of being far-right, then surely Alex Jones doesn't fit that either, no?
To sum up, it was just comment on the way that term is used in the media often incorrectly.
Post by: agrajag on May 03, 2019, 04:01:15 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on May 03, 2019, 04:13:59 PM
AJ's grift took him to White Genocide theory which you can't interpret as anything but far-right dogwhistles. If you think that by itself doesn't make him far-right, or that it was disingenuous then alright, but he's on record with it.
https://www.salon.com/2017/10/02/alex-jones-las-vegas/
What is written in that article just sounds like Alex Jones typical conspiracy crap to me. This is the same guy that claimed sandy hook was a hoax. One thing I know about Alex Jones is that he has been hated for years by white supremacists for a being a filler shill. He was married to a Jewish woman which also technically makes his kids Jewish. There were videos they used of him in support of Israel that they beleived was evidence he was a filler shill.
Post by: curly on May 03, 2019, 04:14:05 PM
Still pretty confused how Ben Shapiro objecting to the WaPo describing Farrakhan as far-right and them capitulating is evidence that the left is using the term to slur their opponents
Is it the equating of far-right with white supremacy that's the slur, or is it the changing of that association?
Kinda think Leadbelly made an assumption about who was mad and ran with it, then when he learned he was wrong kept going anyways
I had no idea who the person was who complained. Didn't even bother to check. In fact I wasn't even able to view the article. It was blocked. May I ask the reason Ben Shapiro complained? .
Again the person who complained is irrelevant. It is pretty clear to me that many people labelled by the media as far-right, or alt-right aren't actually that. The way far-right has been used in recent years by the media is broader than in previous years.
Someone else on that list, Alex Jones, is not far-right. He is a right-wing conspiracy nut. He is not a white supremacist. Farrakhan is a blatant anti-semite, Alex Jones is not. Funnily enough Ben Shapiro has been labelled far-right or alt-right on a number of occasions. Far right is thrown about quite casually it seems. However, they were very quick correct the notion that farrakhan was far-right. Here's where I made an assumption; they fely obliged to make the retraction because he is black, and therefore technically can't actually be a white supremacist. Which is true. But if they are willing to acknowledge that being a white supremacist is a prerequisite of being far-right, then surely Alex Jones doesn't fit that either, no?
To sum up, it was just comment on the way that term is used in the media often incorrectly.
See this is why who complained matters: they retracted because they got pushback from people like Shapiro, Trump Jr, etc. Maybe secretly it was because they didn't think a black guy could be right-wing, but then why did they say he was in the first place? Also funnily enough I first heard about this story because left-wingers on Twitter were complaining that WaPo had caved and saying that of course Farrakhan is right-wing.
Post by: Leadbelly on May 03, 2019, 04:15:49 PM
Still pretty confused how Ben Shapiro objecting to the WaPo describing Farrakhan as far-right and them capitulating is evidence that the left is using the term to slur their opponents
Is it the equating of far-right with white supremacy that's the slur, or is it the changing of that association?
Kinda think Leadbelly made an assumption about who was mad and ran with it, then when he learned he was wrong kept going anyways
I had no idea who the person was who complained. Didn't even bother to check. In fact I wasn't even able to view the article. It was blocked. May I ask the reason Ben Shapiro complained? .
Again the person who complained is irrelevant. It is pretty clear to me that many people labelled by the media as far-right, or alt-right aren't actually that. The way far-right has been used in recent years by the media is broader than in previous years.
Someone else on that list, Alex Jones, is not far-right. He is a right-wing conspiracy nut. He is not a white supremacist. Farrakhan is a blatant anti-semite, Alex Jones is not. Funnily enough Ben Shapiro has been labelled far-right or alt-right on a number of occasions. Far right is thrown about quite casually it seems. However, they were very quick correct the notion that farrakhan was far-right. Here's where I made an assumption; they fely obliged to make the retraction because he is black, and therefore technically can't actually be a white supremacist. Which is true. But if they are willing to acknowledge that being a white supremacist is a prerequisite of being far-right, then surely Alex Jones doesn't fit that either, no?
To sum up, it was just comment on the way that term is used in the media often incorrectly.
See this is why who complained matters: they retracted because they got pushback from people like Shapiro, Trump Jr, etc. Maybe secretly it was because they didn't think a black guy could be right-wing, but then why did they say he was in the first place? Also funnily enough I first heard about this story because left-wingers on Twitter were complaining that WaPo had caved and saying that of course Farrakhan is right-wing.
Yeah. I assumed this bit and could be wrong..
Post by: Leadbelly on May 03, 2019, 04:22:31 PM
AJ's grift took him to White Genocide theory which you can't interpret as anything but far-right dogwhistles. If you think that by itself doesn't make him far-right, or that it was disingenuous then alright, but he's on record with it.
https://www.salon.com/2017/10/02/alex-jones-las-vegas/
What is written in that article just sounds like Alex Jones typical conspiracy crap to me. This is the same guy that claimed sandy hook was a hoax. One thing I know about Alex Jones is that he has been hated for years by white supremacists for a being a filler shill. He was married to a Jewish woman which also technically makes his kids Jewish. There were videos they used of him in support of Israel that they used as evidence he was a filler shill.
Like i said, if you think he is a grifter, then fair (I wouldnt disagree with that). However, promoting Great Replacement theory and blaming leftists for tragedies in a very familiar format (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire) is content that appeals mostly to people who wave hello with their hands at erect 45 degree angles. And that's ignoring all his previous fillerdogwhistlesrellif
:yeshrug
There is some overlap. Alex Jones believed (and probably still does) in the New World Order. He believed that the illuminati were in control, etc. Now there are white supremacists thaat believe a similar thing, the only difference is they attribute those in control to the Jews. Alex Jones never really did this which is why for years those same white supremacists viewed Alex as a shill.
Post by: agrajag on May 03, 2019, 04:30:19 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on May 03, 2019, 08:46:17 PM
I'm not even really sure you can pin Alex Jones down to anything because his overarching belief system is in the New World Order (4 Life) and global elites wanting to enslave the population. People tend to forget he came out of the weirdo liberal Austin scene and really started getting notoriety as a vehemently anti-GWB/neocon/War On Terror guy. When Obama got elected he just swapped out the names but basically was running the same shit but realize he could sell weird shit to his conservative listeners who for some reason seem to be much more willing to gold, silver, and industrial sized buckets of slop. At some point he became a parody of himself and then worked himself into a shoot, and he's obviously not operating on the normal wavelength in general, but I think it's pointless to tie him down to any point of the political spectrum when his NWO theory is the only thing that really matters to him.
Pretty much this. I have listened to Alex for the lulz on a number of occasions, and nothing he has ever said I would consider particularly white supremacist in any way. Although there is probably plenty of crap he has said that could be construed that way in a soundbite, which tends to be what happens. He was pretty much apolitical for while because he believed the Government was the problem. It didn't matter if they were republican or democrat. They were all just working for the new world order.
Also, I can see why people were so confused by my comments now. I had chance to read what Ben Shapiro was saying. I think I understand the aangle he is coming at it from. I think it is related to people like Ilhan Omar and her supposed anti-semitism. I guess he is arguing that left-wing anti-semitism is not treated as seriously as right-wing semitism. Whether you agree with any of that, that is another thing. I think that is why he is attacking this particular thing anyway.
I was just coming at it from the angle that a lot of people have been painted with the same brush who don't really fit that label, including Ben Shapiro himself. And the retraction basically explicitly admitted that they 'incorrectly' put him on the list. Which, to be honest, I don't think I agree completely with that. If his views can be considered right-wing and extreme then it isn't necessarily a totally wrong description. It only becomes so because of the connotation of white supremacism and neo-nazism.
Anyway, without actually knowing the context I assumed they probably capitulated on it because he was black and didn't want to navigate any potential minefield. I'm not sure they would back down in that way if it was Alex Jones for instance. Although that said, Ben Shapiro made a huge fuss when The Independant smeared him as being some kind of god to the Alt-Right. They backed down on that, but then it was patently absurd to begin with.
Post by: Nola on May 03, 2019, 08:48:27 PM
I had no idea who the person was who complained. Didn't even bother to check. In fact I wasn't even able to view the article. It was blocked. May I ask the reason Ben Shapiro complained? .
Again the person who complained is irrelevant. It is pretty clear to me that many people labelled by the media as far-right, or alt-right aren't actually that. The way far-right has been used in recent years by the media is broader than in previous years.
Someone else on that list, Alex Jones, is not far-right. He is a right-wing conspiracy nut. He is not a white supremacist. Farrakhan is a blatant anti-semite, Alex Jones is not. Funnily enough Ben Shapiro has been labelled far-right or alt-right on a number of occasions. Far right is thrown about quite casually it seems. However, they were very quick correct the notion that farrakhan was far-right. Here's where I made an assumption; they fely obliged to make the retraction because he is black, and therefore technically can't actually be a white supremacist. Which is true. But if they are willing to acknowledge that being a white supremacist is a prerequisite of being far-right, then surely Alex Jones doesn't fit that either, no?
To sum up, it was just comment on the way that term is used in the media often incorrectly.
https://twitter.com/brettsperminute/status/1111407148456525830
I'm not sure at the core what exactly it is that separates a guy that believes Judeo-Christian influences and white Western civilization is intrinsically superior to all others and needs to be preserved and remain unsullied by political force if needed(Shapiro), vs. the people that think all that but filter it through racist 8chan memes?
To me it's like jostling over whether it was fair to characterize Buckley as a white supremacist/racist in the 50's by arguing it's unfair because his views weren't rooted specifically in a belief of racial genetic superiority. Even though his sociologically rooted arguments produced alliances and prescriptions basically indistinguishable from the full throttle race science segregationists of the day.
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Post by: Leadbelly on May 03, 2019, 08:52:38 PM
I had no idea who the person was who complained. Didn't even bother to check. In fact I wasn't even able to view the article. It was blocked. May I ask the reason Ben Shapiro complained? .
Again the person who complained is irrelevant. It is pretty clear to me that many people labelled by the media as far-right, or alt-right aren't actually that. The way far-right has been used in recent years by the media is broader than in previous years.
Someone else on that list, Alex Jones, is not far-right. He is a right-wing conspiracy nut. He is not a white supremacist. Farrakhan is a blatant anti-semite, Alex Jones is not. Funnily enough Ben Shapiro has been labelled far-right or alt-right on a number of occasions. Far right is thrown about quite casually it seems. However, they were very quick correct the notion that farrakhan was far-right. Here's where I made an assumption; they fely obliged to make the retraction because he is black, and therefore technically can't actually be a white supremacist. Which is true. But if they are willing to acknowledge that being a white supremacist is a prerequisite of being far-right, then surely Alex Jones doesn't fit that either, no?
To sum up, it was just comment on the way that term is used in the media often incorrectly.
https://twitter.com/brettsperminute/status/1111407148456525830
I'm not sure at the core what exactly it is that separates a guy that believes Judeo-Christian influences and white Western civilization is intrinsically superior to all others and needs to be preserved and remain unsullied by political force if needed(Shapiro), vs. the people that think all that but filter it through racist 8chan memes?
To me it's like jostling over whether it was fair to characterize Buckley as a white supremacist/racist in the 50's by arguing it's unfair because his views weren't rooted specifically in a belief of racial genetic superiority. Even though his sociologically rooted arguments produced alliances and prescriptions basically indistinguishable from the full throttle race science segregationists of the day.spoiler (click to show/hide)(https://i.imgflip.com/2bekbc.jpg)[close]
lol
I don't want to be the one to defend Ben Shapiro, but I have heard him explicitly differentiate between Muslims and Islam. There is a difference between saying all Muslims are the problem and saying there is a problem with Islam.
Post by: Nola on May 03, 2019, 09:00:39 PM
lol
I don't want to be the one to defend Ben Shapiro, but I have heard him explicitly differentiate between Muslims and Islam. There is a difference between saying all Muslims are the problem and saying there is a problem with Islam.
Buckley vs Grantism. Sure, there are some categorical, rhetorical, and substantive divergences and differences, but at the end of the day both want to keep the white racial supremacy structure, or in Shapiro's case, bend over backwards to argue in defense or in favor of most of the same policies and prescriptions the Steven Miller's and David Horowitz's of the world advocate.
They're distinctions without much of a difference imo.
Post by: Mandark on May 03, 2019, 09:01:12 PM
I don't want to be the one to defend Ben Shapiro
you quite clearly do
Post by: Leadbelly on May 03, 2019, 09:14:43 PM
I had no idea who the person was who complained. Didn't even bother to check. In fact I wasn't even able to view the article. It was blocked. May I ask the reason Ben Shapiro complained? .
Again the person who complained is irrelevant. It is pretty clear to me that many people labelled by the media as far-right, or alt-right aren't actually that. The way far-right has been used in recent years by the media is broader than in previous years.
Someone else on that list, Alex Jones, is not far-right. He is a right-wing conspiracy nut. He is not a white supremacist. Farrakhan is a blatant anti-semite, Alex Jones is not. Funnily enough Ben Shapiro has been labelled far-right or alt-right on a number of occasions. Far right is thrown about quite casually it seems. However, they were very quick correct the notion that farrakhan was far-right. Here's where I made an assumption; they fely obliged to make the retraction because he is black, and therefore technically can't actually be a white supremacist. Which is true. But if they are willing to acknowledge that being a white supremacist is a prerequisite of being far-right, then surely Alex Jones doesn't fit that either, no?
To sum up, it was just comment on the way that term is used in the media often incorrectly.
https://twitter.com/brettsperminute/status/1111407148456525830
I'm not sure at the core what exactly it is that separates a guy that believes Judeo-Christian influences and white Western civilization is intrinsically superior to all others and needs to be preserved and remain unsullied by political force if needed(Shapiro), vs. the people that think all that but filter it through racist 8chan memes?
To me it's like jostling over whether it was fair to characterize Buckley as a white supremacist/racist in the 50's by arguing it's unfair because his views weren't rooted specifically in a belief of racial genetic superiority. Even though his sociologically rooted arguments produced alliances and prescriptions basically indistinguishable from the full throttle race science segregationists of the day.spoiler (click to show/hide)(https://i.imgflip.com/2bekbc.jpg)[close]
lol
I don't want to be the one to defend Ben Shapiro, but I have heard him explicitly differentiate between Muslims and Islam. There is a difference between saying all Muslims are the problem and saying there is a problem with Islam.
Like I said, Buckley vs Grantism. Sure, there are categorical, substantive, and rhetorical differences, but at the end of the day both want to keep the south segregated, or in Shapiro's case, bend over backwards to argue in defense or in favor of most of the same policies and prescriptions the Steven Miller's and David Horowitz's of the world advocate.
They're distinctions without much of a difference.
No they are. By that logic for instance there isn't really much difference between what Ben Shapiro thinks about homosexuality and what Isis thinks about homosexuality. Ultimately both believe it is a sin. The difference is, Isis wants to throw homosexuals off buildings and Ben Shapiro believes it is entirely the choice of the individual to live the life they see fit, he just believes it is a sin. That is a big difference in my mind. Sure, there are things I may disagree with Ben Shapiro on, but I can at least acknowledge the significance of that difference.
In the same way, there is a difference in believing all Muslims are the problem and must be deported and being critical about Islam.
Post by: Mandark on May 03, 2019, 09:22:32 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on May 03, 2019, 09:23:05 PM
I don't want to be the one to defend Ben Shapiro
you quite clearly do
Lol got em
To try to give a fair and accurate assessment of one's opponents rather than a biased one. You got me!
Post by: Mandark on May 03, 2019, 09:26:36 PM
arguing otherwise is just bending over backwards to give him the most charitable interpretation, no matter how implausible or at odds with his own years of writing on the subject (ie something shapiro does not do when discussing the motives of those on the left)
Post by: Leadbelly on May 03, 2019, 09:30:42 PM
a fair and accurate assessment would be that shapiro is a homophobe
arguing otherwise is just bending over backwards to give him the most charitable interpretation, no matter how implausible or at odds with his own years of writing on the subject (ie something shapiro does not do when discussing the motives of those on the left)
No that is not the argument. The argument is that there is no qualitative difference between what Ben Shapiro believes and what the Alt-Right believe. I disagree.
Post by: Leadbelly on May 03, 2019, 09:34:47 PM
I don't want to be the one to defend Ben Shapiro
you quite clearly do
Lol got em
To try to give a fair and accurate assessment of one's opponents rather than a biased one. You got me!
Lol u got rekt nerd
Mmm Okay.
Post by: Mandark on May 03, 2019, 09:41:20 PM
he wasn't just writing wishy-washy apologetics for jim crow as a temporary necessity, he was floating the idea that the birmingham church bombing was a false flag, blaming mlk for his own assassination, etc. just real comment section level bullshit
Post by: Nola on May 03, 2019, 09:45:52 PM
No they are. By that logic for instance there isn't really much difference between what Ben Shapiro thinks about homosexuality and what Isis thinks about homosexuality. Ultimately both believe it is a sin. The difference is, Isis wants to throw homosexuals off buildings and Ben Shapiro believes it is entirely the choice of the individual to live the life they see fit, he just believes it is a sin. That is a big difference in my mind. Sure, there are things I may disagree with Ben Shapiro on, but I can at least acknowledge the significance of that difference.
In the same way, there is a difference in believing all Muslims are the problem and must be deported and being critical about Islam.
I mean you certainly have asserted there is a notable and substantive distinction between Shapiro and those on the consensus far/alt right in political public life(to me that's the Steven Millers, Bannon's, Horowitz's etc.), but you haven't really demonstrated that.
Seems to me that so far, any time one of these policies pop up that advance the white nationalist agenda those political figures in those camps support/craft, there is a Shapiro piece close behind that might offer some minor cautions and gnaw at some minor details but generally defends and supports them. From the Muslim ban to Trump's separation of families. Distinctions without much difference imo. In that sense, he is pretty similar to his idol Buckley.
But really, I don't honestly care to waste much more of the night on this. I just think the idea of going out of the way to save the dignity of a negative label on a brain pill hustler that delivers intellectual snake oil to an audience looking for simplistic academic sounding arguments to reinforce their casual racism through a soothing helium voice is kind of amusing and was worth pushing back a bit on.
Post by: agrajag on May 03, 2019, 09:48:01 PM
:science
Post by: Mandark on May 03, 2019, 09:55:08 PM
for shapiro that means feuding with pepes, for farrakhan it's being persona non grata to pretty much all american movement conservatism (intermittent praise from robert novak and clarence thomas aside), cause zionism has a sympathetic audience on the right that black nationalism doesn't, for obvious reasons
Post by: Leadbelly on May 03, 2019, 10:02:31 PM
Those would be distinctions with big differences.
No they are. By that logic for instance there isn't really much difference between what Ben Shapiro thinks about homosexuality and what Isis thinks about homosexuality. Ultimately both believe it is a sin. The difference is, Isis wants to throw homosexuals off buildings and Ben Shapiro believes it is entirely the choice of the individual to live the life they see fit, he just believes it is a sin. That is a big difference in my mind. Sure, there are things I may disagree with Ben Shapiro on, but I can at least acknowledge the significance of that difference.
In the same way, there is a difference in believing all Muslims are the problem and must be deported and being critical about Islam.
I mean you certainly have asserted there is a notable and substantive distinction between Shapiro and those on the consensus far/alt right in political public life(The Steven Millers, Bannon's, Horowitz's etc.), but you haven't really demonstrated that.
Seems to me that so far, anytime one of these policies pop up that advance the white nationalist agenda those political figures in those camps support/craft, there is a Shapiro piece close behind that might offer some minor cautions and gnaw at some minor details but generally defends and supports them. From the Muslim ban to Trump's separation of families. Distinctions without much difference imo.
But really, I don't honestly care to waste much more of the night on this. I just think the idea of going to bat to save the dignity of a label on a brain pill hustler that delivers intellectual snake oil to an audience looking for simplistic academic sounding arguments to reinforce their casual racism through a soothing helium voice is kind of amusing.
Well, I would need a specfic thing for me to comment. Listen, if you posted something that showed me there isn't much difference between Ben Shapiro and white supremacists, then I would concede I am wrong.
If Ben Shapiro for instance argued that homosexuality should be made illegal, then I would argue against that. However, based on what I have watched, interviews, etc, he is not arguing for anything like that.
Post by: Oblivion on May 03, 2019, 10:06:59 PM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on May 03, 2019, 10:07:00 PM
benji's boy bill buckleyi need receipts on this one
also: https://mobile.twitter.com/HeerJeet/status/1123967542874333186
and the whole threads useful too
Post by: Oblivion on May 03, 2019, 10:07:22 PM
Post by: team filler on May 03, 2019, 10:08:11 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on May 03, 2019, 10:16:52 PM
Will never get tired of the fact that some people think that not throwing gays off of buildings is something to worthy of praise.
Who said that?
Funny, again, I thought the argument being made was that throwing gays off buildings is not basically the same as personally believing being gay is a sin. It's the throwing gays off buildings bit that is the significant difference here. It is the extreme aspect of it that makes it different.
Reminds me of an argument Douglas Murray made.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxfnq8Yeex0
Post by: Oblivion on May 03, 2019, 10:17:17 PM
It's true the guy was always a conspiracy theorist (and still is), but he's also categorically different now than he was under either Obama or Bush. He would criticize both of them, but he is firmly up Trump's ass and only spends time on right-wing conspiracy theories.
He is unquestionably far-right.
Post by: Oblivion on May 03, 2019, 10:19:31 PM
Will never get tired of the fact that some people think that not throwing gays off of buildings is something to worthy of praise.
Who said that?
Funny, again, I thought the argument being made was that throwing gays of buildings is not basically the same as personally believing being gay is a sin. It's the throwing gays of buildings bit that is the significant difference here. It is the extreme aspect of it that makes it different.
Reminds me of an argument Douglas Murray made.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxfnq8Yeex0
There are two things you don't seem to understand:
1) Not throwing gays off of buildings doesn't mean you can't still be a shitty person
2) As Mandark pointed out, people like Ben don't throw gay people off of buildings because it's, um, illegal to do so.
Post by: Leadbelly on May 03, 2019, 10:23:41 PM
Also, RE: Alex Jones.
It's true the guy was always a conspiracy theorist (and still is), but he's also categorically different now than he was under either Obama or Bush. He would criticize both of them, but he is firmly up Trump's ass and only spends time on right-wing conspiracy theories.
He is unquestionably far-right.
Define far-right. That's the problem.
Post by: Leadbelly on May 03, 2019, 10:27:01 PM
Will never get tired of the fact that some people think that not throwing gays off of buildings is something to worthy of praise.
Who said that?
Funny, again, I thought the argument being made was that throwing gays of buildings is not basically the same as personally believing being gay is a sin. It's the throwing gays of buildings bit that is the significant difference here. It is the extreme aspect of it that makes it different.
Reminds me of an argument Douglas Murray made.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxfnq8Yeex0
There are two things you don't seem to understand:
1) Not throwing gays off of buildings doesn't mean you can't still be a shitty person
2) As Mandark pointed out, people like Ben don't throw gay people off of buildings because it's, um, illegal to do so.
Ah well then I refer you to a previous post:
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45681.msg2618038#msg2618038
Post by: Oblivion on May 03, 2019, 10:28:57 PM
Also, RE: Alex Jones.
It's true the guy was always a conspiracy theorist (and still is), but he's also categorically different now than he was under either Obama or Bush. He would criticize both of them, but he is firmly up Trump's ass and only spends time on right-wing conspiracy theories.
He is unquestionably far-right.
Define far-right. That's the problem.
Well, it's not the only thing, by any means, but as a start, how about: someone who supports putting immigrant children in baby jails?
Post by: Leadbelly on May 03, 2019, 10:33:18 PM
Also, RE: Alex Jones.
It's true the guy was always a conspiracy theorist (and still is), but he's also categorically different now than he was under either Obama or Bush. He would criticize both of them, but he is firmly up Trump's ass and only spends time on right-wing conspiracy theories.
He is unquestionably far-right.
Define far-right. That's the problem.
Well, it's not the only thing, by any means, but how about: someone who supports putting immigrant children in baby jails?
I would need context. I am tired of this now though.
Quote
The term is often used to describe Nazism,[4] neo-Nazism, fascism, neo-fascism and other ideologies or organizations that feature ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, racist, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[5] These can lead to oppression and violence against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[6][7] nation, state[8] or ultraconservative traditional social institutions.[9]
Which I would say the average person thinks when someone is described as far-right. I don't believe Alex Jones is a neo-Nazi, I don't believe he is a fascist and I don't believe he beieves white people are the master race. So no, I don't think Alex Jones is far-right. Another term I hear used nowadays is 'hard-right'. Maybe that is more fitting i don't know.
Post by: agrajag on May 03, 2019, 10:33:29 PM
see: milo yanapolous
Post by: Leadbelly on May 03, 2019, 10:39:57 PM
are alt-right throwing gays off buildings?
see: milo yanapolous
They're not, but it is the same logic. Both Ben Shapiro and Isis believe homosexuality is a sin, so ultimately they believe the same thing. However, the throwing gays off buildings bit is a big difference. I said it to make a point.
I don't actually know how the Alt-Right would deal with the people who do not belog in their ethnostate, but one might assume it would not involve leaving them alone to live freely. And that is the difference.
Post by: Oblivion on May 03, 2019, 10:50:24 PM
Also, RE: Alex Jones.
It's true the guy was always a conspiracy theorist (and still is), but he's also categorically different now than he was under either Obama or Bush. He would criticize both of them, but he is firmly up Trump's ass and only spends time on right-wing conspiracy theories.
He is unquestionably far-right.
Define far-right. That's the problem.
Well, it's not the only thing, by any means, but how about: someone who supports putting immigrant children in baby jails?
I would need context.
Well, for example - and I'm just spitballing here - the policy Trump has recently been enacting.
..for the past 3 years.
Quote
The term is often used to describe Nazism,[4] neo-Nazism, fascism, neo-fascism and other ideologies or organizations that feature ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, racist, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[5] These can lead to oppression and violence against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[6][7] nation, state[8] or ultraconservative traditional social institutions.[9]
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Which I would say the average person thinks when someone is described as far-right. I don't believe Alex Jones is a neo-Nazi, I don't believe he is a fascist and I don't believe he beieves white people are the master race. So no, I don't think Alex Jones is far-right. Another term I hear used nowadays is 'hard-right'. Maybe that is more fitting i don't know.
So like, unless someone is a literal nazi, white nationalist/supremacist, or admits in their own words that they're a capital R racist, then they can't be "far right"?
What's really weird is that usually this kind of hair splitting occurs when libs call people nazis or fascists, but I don't see this complaint as much when it comes to calling someone "far right". And your distinction between that and "hard right" is also weird because one sounds just as bad as the other.
Again, you didn't answer my question. Is Trump someone you'd consider "far right"?
Post by: Leadbelly on May 03, 2019, 11:06:41 PM
Also, RE: Alex Jones.
It's true the guy was always a conspiracy theorist (and still is), but he's also categorically different now than he was under either Obama or Bush. He would criticize both of them, but he is firmly up Trump's ass and only spends time on right-wing conspiracy theories.
He is unquestionably far-right.
Define far-right. That's the problem.
Well, it's not the only thing, by any means, but how about: someone who supports putting immigrant children in baby jails?
I would need context.
Well, for example - and I'm just spitballing here - the policy Trump has recently been enacting.
..for the past 3 years.QuoteThe term is often used to describe Nazism,[4] neo-Nazism, fascism, neo-fascism and other ideologies or organizations that feature ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, racist, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[5] These can lead to oppression and violence against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[6][7] nation, state[8] or ultraconservative traditional social institutions.[9]QuoteWhich I would say the average person thinks when someone is described as far-right. I don't believe Alex Jones is a neo-Nazi, I don't believe he is a fascist and I don't believe he beieves white people are the master race. So no, I don't think Alex Jones is far-right. Another term I hear used nowadays is 'hard-right'. Maybe that is more fitting i don't know.
So like, unless someone is a literal nazi, white nationalist/supremacist, or admits in their own words that they're a capital R racist, then they can't be "far right"?
What's really weird is that usually this kind of hair splitting occurs when libs call people nazis or fascists, but I don't see this complaint as much when it comes to calling someone "far right". And your distinction between that and "hard right" is also weird because one sounds just as bad as the other.
Again, you didn't answer my question. Is Trump someone you'd consider "far right"?
It is the connotation with white supremacism that is the problem, as evidenced by the quote from the wikipedia page. Hard right doesn't have that connotation, hence why I thoought maybe that is a better description. Which is why some news outlets choose to use it now instead of far-right. And where I actually picked the term up from.
Funnily enough, again it reminds of something Douglas Murray has said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWbEhJhVoMs
Post by: Leadbelly on May 04, 2019, 11:29:59 PM
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/i-might-rape-mp-jess-phillips-says-ukip-candidate-carl-benjamin-rchlh3m86QuoteA Ukip candidate in the European elections was under pressure to withdraw yesterday after releasing a video suggesting he might rape a Labour MP.
Carl Benjamin, who had already been attacked for a social media message saying he “wouldn’t even rape” the Birmingham Yardley MP Jess Phillips, posted a video online suggesting that “with enough pressure I might cave”.
https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1124723640652709890
I don't know the context, but if you are going to go into politics you choose your words carefully. He's stupid to think he can just continue on saying the same shit on his youtube channel and it not coming back to bite him on the arse. That's politics and he should know that.
As I said though, I don't know the context.
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on May 04, 2019, 11:41:10 PM
:dead :deadQuoteCarl Benjamin, who had already been attacked for a social media message saying he “wouldn’t even rape” the Birmingham Yardley MP Jess Phillips, posted a video online suggesting that “with enough pressure I might cave”.I don't know the context
Post by: Leadbelly on May 05, 2019, 12:02:30 AM
you can't really give the ignorance frame for this one when his entire channel and platform is based on anti-sjw, specifically antifeminist reactionary commentary.
Forgot I was talking to RElite people in here. I have no problem with anti-SJW types. So just so you know, it is not feigning ignorance I just literally don't know the context. Could be joking. probably was joking.
The funny thing is though, despite not knowing the context, I am pretty sure I still commented on it by saying he is stupid for saying it anyway. And that's mainly because politics is a completely different ball game. Everything you say will be used against you.
Post by: Leadbelly on May 05, 2019, 12:22:37 AM
you can't really give the ignorance frame for this one when his entire channel and platform is based on anti-sjw, specifically antifeminist reactionary commentary.
Forgot I was talking to RElite people in here. I have no problem with anti-SJW types. So just so you know, it is not feigning ignorance I just literally don't know the context. Could be joking. probably was joking.
The funny thing is though, despite not knowing the context, I am pretty sure I still commented on it by saying he is stupid for saying it anyway. And that's mainly because politics is a completely different ball game. Everything you say will be used against you.
The point I was making is that the whole "he should know not to say that" is ??? since his entire persona centers around "saying that"
Okay. I agree his persona centres on being provocative. And maybe he is so used to being that he forgot to switch it off.
Post by: benjipwns on May 05, 2019, 12:33:08 AM
https://twitter.com/ArmchairEgghead/status/1111987542100975623but muslims should be shaded for muslims too though :doge
I find his hosting of Firing Line to be perfectly cromulent and generally (and perhaps most importantly considering that Buckley himself is quite blatantly opinionated) a good way for a host to conduct themselves for such a show along with the format of the program being near ideal. I also think he was pretty obviously great at word usage, his best book by far is the late in life one that's barely about politics and has a whole chapter of him complaining about People Magazine after going to the doctor or something to the point that he went out and bought a copy so his complaints about the celebrities who he knew nothing of could be accurate. (If it's me finding his overly deliberate "upper class" persona to be amusing, sue me. I liked the ignorant ramblings of his successor Jay Nordlinger* too.)benji's boy bill buckleyi need receipts on this one
+1
I'm not sure if I've ever stated an affinity for his politics except where there are probably obvious manners in which we cross over much like I do with any post-Goldwater conservative influenced by his (and Reagan's) usage of libertarian rhetoric in service of the Republican cause. I don't even use the line about being governed by the first thousand names in the Boston phone book because that's one thousand rulers too many. I probably said something about how I don't find him to be a total cryptofascist out of fear he'd sock me in my goddamn face.
I did spreg this out regarding black extremists on Firing Line over a year ago (http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=44608.msg2389498#msg2389498) (look, it's etiolate!) in response to the revival of Firing Line which I did not expect to go well along with how the original had recently been brought over onto YouTube for free...before that I can only find an earlier mention of when they started adding the classic episodes to Amazon Prime in 2014, plus a time earlier last year when we were discussing a whole host of various writers and after Christopher Hitchens was mentioned I compared him to Buckley as someone problematic I enjoyed as a guest/writer during which I also jokingly referenced his comment to Gore Vidal proving it's a good joke that stands the test of time. Of course I could always be remembering something wrong or just be plain wrong overall, I once said Rodney White was turning into a quality sixth man like a month before he got dumped out of the league.
And this within the last year
Buckley didn't exactly realize when he stood athwart history to yell "stop!" he had essentially already accepted the premise.
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*John Derbyshire never worked for me, his like three month turn from regular ol xenophobe towards "you know what, I'm proud to be a full blown racist" was the most amusing thing he's ever written. He didn't even have to go to Poland for it!
Post by: Mandark on May 05, 2019, 12:48:35 AM
I'm not sure if I've ever stated an affinity for his politics except where there are probably obvious manners in which we cross over much like I do with any post-Goldwater conservative influenced by his (and Reagan's) usage of libertarian rhetoric in service of the Republican cause.
"his opposition to the cra" is more concise
Post by: benjipwns on May 05, 2019, 01:14:15 AM
Post by: Leadbelly on May 05, 2019, 01:26:42 AM
You don't have to be a social studies warrior or RE-lite to think Sargon is a massive and unfunny cunt who basically only says stupid things when he isn't disastering history or saying something blatantly racist because he thinks it's clever "secret knowledge" that only insiders have access to. His Joe Rogan (not SJW land at all) appearance is really the best evidence of Sargon as a thing. He refuses to actually elaborate on anything stupid Joe asks about "because he has to catch a plane" even after Joe continues to say he'll get him a later plane ticket and completely pay for it, a car and any potential lodging so he can stick around to talk more. And all Sargon does is keep whining about how he's going to be late for his plane until Joe changes the topic. This happens more than once!
It seems I misinterpreted the post anyway, so I don't really see the point in elaborating on it too much. I will just say it wasn't specifically about Sargon anyway, more the idea that someone's platform being anti-SJW or anti-feminist is all that needs to be known. So for example that would be enough on RE to condemn a person. The actual specifics of what they say is irrelevant. That's what I latched on to.
Post by: curly on May 05, 2019, 01:37:30 AM
Like it's personally reasonable if, say, you believe in liberal democracy, to have a problem with someone who calls themselves a monarchists imply based on their associating themselves with that idea. You don't have to go to their youtube channel and hear them talk about how great the Hapsburgs were or whatever.
Post by: Leadbelly on May 05, 2019, 01:59:30 AM
But anti-feminist isn't just a label it's an ideology which carries with it a certain content so it's perfectly reasonable to have a problem with someone based on that alone if you disagree with that ideology.
Like it's personally reasonable if, say, you believe in liberal democracy, to have a problem with someone who calls themselves a monarchist or whatever simply based on their associating themselves with that idea.
There are many people though who are against feminism but for equal rights. And that may seem contradictory. However, it is precisely because they see feminism as an ideology with all sorts of baggage attached to it that they are against it.
For instance to believe in equal rights for men and women, but not to believe that patriarchy theory is an adequate way of viewing modern society. Or to believe that rape culture isn't really a thing. It is all that other stuff that you kind of need to subscribe to in order to be accepted as a feminist. And it is all that other stuff that some people are critical of.
Post by: benjipwns on May 05, 2019, 02:12:00 AM
and plenty of crossover among ideological foes at times, TERFs and Jordan Peterson would kill each other outside of the days of the week they aren't joining arms to fight against the transgenders
Post by: Mandark on May 05, 2019, 02:21:09 AM
But anti-feminist isn't just a label it's an ideology which carries with it a certain content so it's perfectly reasonable to have a problem with someone based on that alone if you disagree with that ideology.
Like it's personally reasonable if, say, you believe in liberal democracy, to have a problem with someone who calls themselves a monarchists imply based on their associating themselves with that idea. You don't have to go to their youtube channel and hear them talk about how great the Hapsburgs were or whatever.
also is there anyone who's "anti-feminist" and not a huge fuckin' goomba?
like obv feminist activists/institutions/theories aren't above criticism and as it's so widely applied it's gonna cover a whole bunch of different tendencies some of which might be particularly problematic (just read an intersectional feminist having a go at a terf, or a womanist taking shots at white feminism)
HOWEVA...
anyone who observes and lives in the world as it is and decides that they want to make opposition to feminism their focus as an activist (or commentator or influencer etc.) belies whatever self identification they have as being primarily concerned with equal rights or whatever
Post by: benjipwns on May 05, 2019, 02:37:45 AM
but if you used the basic equal rights description then I'd have to say yes, I'm a feminist, even if, for other reasons I'd probably be opposed to and critical of, most of what the majority of self-labeled feminists (because, the same for people in general obv being an extremist and all) argue for
except voting rights of course, fee-males clearly cannot handle that responsibility
Post by: Mandark on May 05, 2019, 02:50:41 AM
disagreeing with or criticizing an ideology or movement and its adherents, on certain points != making opposition to that movement a central part of your identity
this strikes me as a fairly obvious point to make and I suspect that basically everyone groks it, except in certain cases where someone decides it is in their interest to not understand it
Post by: Mandark on May 05, 2019, 02:52:56 AM
Post by: benjipwns on May 05, 2019, 04:39:53 AM
Post by: benjipwns on May 05, 2019, 04:49:38 AM
He did manage to snag one person in the replies, the rest are mostly all people telling him to invite Libertarian Presidential candidate Sam Seder:
https://twitter.com/ContraPoints/status/1123421958958387200
Post by: Leadbelly on May 05, 2019, 11:14:13 AM
there's different types of feminism
and plenty of crossover among ideological foes at timeThes, TERFs and Jordan Peterson would kill each other outside of the days of the week they aren't joining arms to fight against the transgenders
There are different types of feminism, but not all types of 'feminism' are accepted by mainstream feminists it seems. So an obvious example would be Christina Hoff Sommers and her brand of 'equity feminism'. She isn't accepted by mainstream feminism. In fact she has been labelled by some prominent feminists as, 'the anti-feminist feminist' in a disparaging way. Another feminist of note is Camille Paglia. She is treated in a similar way. There are many feminisms, but there is also the wrong kind of feminism that will pretty much see you as a pariah by most other feminisms. The whole TERF thing is an interesting development though. I am starting to think that this is going to become a real sticking point within the movement.
And I do agree that basing your whole identity around being an anti-feminist does come across as having some kind of deep-seated grudge against women. However, also, with some people it isn't necessarily something they have labelled themselves, per se, but rather something foisted upon them by others. They are 'anti-feminist' simply by being critical of feminism and therefore have been labelled as such.
Post by: Leadbelly on May 05, 2019, 11:24:03 AM
All this terf talk reminded me of this :lol
https://twitter.com/Friginator/status/1123699622482993159spoiler (click to show/hide)SHUT THE FUCK UP TERF <<<<<<< SHUT THE FUCK UP LIBERAL[close]
lol
"It's a real hand holding a real gun"
Talk about over analysing a meme for goodness sake.
Post by: Mandark on May 05, 2019, 01:05:11 PM
What's the difference between a feminist and a womanist
Womanism focuses on nonwhite (especially but not exclusively black) women.
Term was coined in the 70's or 80's in response to second-wave feminism being dominated by middle class white women. Its critique of feminism has more or less become part of the dreaded intersectionality which is destroying western civilization.
Post by: Mandark on May 05, 2019, 01:10:54 PM
Christina Hoff Sommers
Camille Paglia
And I do agree that basing your whole identity around being an anti-feminist does come across as having some kind of deep-seated grudge against women. However, also, with some people it isn't necessarily something they have labelled themselves, per se, but rather something foisted upon them by others. They are 'anti-feminist' simply by being critical of feminism and therefore have been labelled as such.
dawg
Post by: Oblivion on May 05, 2019, 03:46:15 PM
And my favorite civil rights activists are Tommy Sotomayor and Sheriff David Clarke.
Post by: Oblivion on May 05, 2019, 03:48:50 PM
And I do agree that basing your whole identity around being an anti-feminist does come across as having some kind of deep-seated grudge against women. However, also, with some people it isn't necessarily something they have labelled themselves, per se, but rather something foisted upon them by others. They are 'anti-feminist' simply by being critical of feminism and therefore have been labelled as such.
So...these people themselves say that they're against feminism, but don't consider themselves "anti-feminist"? So when someone like Sargon says "feminism is cancer", the "anti-feminist" label is just something that their enemies "foisted" upon them?
Post by: Oblivion on May 05, 2019, 04:27:50 PM
https://twitter.com/DiddlyDonger/status/1124871697604046850
Post by: team filler on May 05, 2019, 04:38:09 PM
Post by: agrajag on May 05, 2019, 04:47:09 PM
Post by: Oblivion on May 05, 2019, 04:49:41 PM
Post by: agrajag on May 05, 2019, 04:51:20 PM
:trumps
Post by: Oblivion on May 05, 2019, 04:55:08 PM
The complexities of life. :fbm
Post by: agrajag on May 05, 2019, 04:56:35 PM
calling people RElite is a good start
:aah
Post by: team filler on May 05, 2019, 05:02:33 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on May 05, 2019, 07:56:38 PM
Post by: naff on May 05, 2019, 07:59:55 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on May 05, 2019, 08:03:00 PM
Post by: agrajag on May 05, 2019, 08:07:06 PM
:bolo
Post by: Leadbelly on May 05, 2019, 08:24:07 PM
And I do agree that basing your whole identity around being an anti-feminist does come across as having some kind of deep-seated grudge against women. However, also, with some people it isn't necessarily something they have labelled themselves, per se, but rather something foisted upon them by others. They are 'anti-feminist' simply by being critical of feminism and therefore have been labelled as such.
So...these people themselves say that they're against feminism, but don't consider themselves "anti-feminist"? So when someone like Sargon says "feminism is cancer", the "anti-feminist" label is just something that their enemies "foisted" upon them?
Your questions come across as weird to me. It's like you're digging for something. I say that because you take what was a general argument and make it specific...:p
I dislike Emmeline Pankhurst. I don't like her politics particularly and I don't like what she stood for. Emmeline Pankhurst is a like a big deal in the UK as far as women's rights go. She started the Suffragettes which campaigned for women to have the vote. What does that say about me?
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Sylvia Pankhurst (Emmeline Pankhurst's daughter) is one of my hereos.
Both were women's rights activists and both campaigned for the vote.
Both were women's rights activists and both campaigned for the vote.
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Post by: thisismyusername on May 05, 2019, 08:37:22 PM
she called TayTay an Obnoxious Nazi Barbie
:bolo
First of all, how dare you.
Second of all, how dare you!
Post by: Yeti on May 05, 2019, 08:52:28 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/aXNW6fm.jpg) :-[
The package should be labeled “L”, not the signature sheet :rage
Post by: Oblivion on May 05, 2019, 10:45:14 PM
What feminist am I supposed to like? Just curious.
Probably a feminist whose audience isn't actually mostly made up of, um... men?
Post by: Mandark on May 05, 2019, 10:46:47 PM
Post by: Brehvolution on May 06, 2019, 11:51:24 AM
Also, RE: Alex Jones.
It's true the guy was always a conspiracy theorist (and still is), but he's also categorically different now than he was under either Obama or Bush. He would criticize both of them, but he is firmly up Trump's ass and only spends time on right-wing conspiracy theories.
He is unquestionably far-right.
Define far-right. That's the problem.
Anyone who starts a sentence with "The left"
Post by: Leadbelly on May 06, 2019, 12:12:48 PM
What feminist am I supposed to like? Just curious.
Probably a feminist whose audience isn't actually mostly made up of, um... men?
I don't know. I believe more in the idea of universalism personally. I think organising under common cause is a better approach. It is a better way to form solidarity. And lets face it, feminism is divisive. And the funny thing is, it is not only divisive to men, but to women also.
In a previous post I mentioned I wasn't much of a fan of Emmeline Pankhurst, yet for some reason Sylvia Pankhurst is a hero/heroine of mine. Both were women's rights activists and both campaigned for the vote. It's funny actually because Emmeline Pankhurst seems to be championed to this day, yet Sylvia Pankhurst is often forgotten. I think politics plays a role in this.
The reason I prefer Sylvia over Emmeline is to do with the approach. Emmeline Pankhurst and the WSPU were bourgeoisie through and through. They campaigned solely for rich women to get the vote. Working-class women, and one of the key differences, working class men were not really a concern for the WSPU. Only rich property owning men had the vote in those days, and they campaigned for rich property owning women. In fact Emmeline Pankhurst became more and more aligned with the establishment as time went on. During WWI, for instance, she joined the White Feather movement. The white feather was a symbol of cowardice. It was given to young men to shame them for not conscripting into the war. So she basically walked around shaming young men into going to war. She was an advocate of British imperialism also.
Sylvia Pankhurst started off in the WSPU with her sisters but was eventually expelled from the WSPU for her links with the labour movement and socialism. It was that relationship between class and gender along with other things that caused the rift. She unlike her mother and the WSPU was actually for universal suffrage for both men and women. Her concerns started off with working class women, but over time there was a shift away from a focus on women specifically to a focus on workers. It was not just a single issue campaign. It wasn't just about the issues of female workers, but of all workers.
It is that universalising approach that I believe is far more effective in not only achieving common goals, but also individual goals. And so I don't see having a strong male audience as necessarily a bad thing. My whole philosophy on this is the exact opposite of what you seem to be suggesting. To judge a feminist by how many women listen to her, and how few men listen to her, doesn't give me a particularly good impression. The thing is, feminism isn't a popular movement among women let alone men. The amount of women who identify as feminist has been small for years. Feminism doesn't speak for most women. That said though, I don't judge people by their audience, I judge them by their ideas.
paglia's a climate truther iirc, which is as good a heuristic as any to spot someone with poor judgment
I can disagree with someone on a number of things. However, there can be one thing I believe they are right on. You are talking about Paglia specifically, but this obviously holds true with everyone. An argument stands by its own merits, right?
And if you really were to judge feminists by this standard then you would dismiss many of them off hand. Because lets be honest here, Paglia isn't the only feminist to believe some pseudo-scientific trash.
Anyone who starts a sentence with "The left"
How do you define the far-left?
Post by: Mandark on May 06, 2019, 02:59:17 PM
An argument stands by its own merits, right?
nope
Post by: Leadbelly on May 06, 2019, 03:17:32 PM
An argument stands by its own merits, right?
nope
I'm going to spare you the need to explain yourself... I will just explain what that means to you. lol
-Serial killer says X.
-Someone decides X is wrong because a serial killer said it.
The fact that a serial killer said it has no bearing on whether X is right or wrong. X stands on its own merits.
Post by: Mandark on May 06, 2019, 03:54:22 PM
serial killers are notoriously disingenuous in rationalizing their own motivations and their statements should almost never be taken at face value
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on May 06, 2019, 10:44:54 PM
haven't actually read Deleuzedont know how much that’s actually gonna help you
Post by: benjipwns on May 07, 2019, 03:19:47 AM
Is the serial killer leaning on his experience as a serial killer to back up the claim? :thinkingAn argument stands by its own merits, right?
nope
I'm going to spare you the need to explain yourself... I will just explain what that means to you. lol
-Serial killer says X.
-Someone decides X is wrong because a serial killer said it.
The fact that a serial killer said it has no bearing on whether X is right or wrong. X stands on its own merits.
Post by: samir on May 07, 2019, 03:20:35 AM
Post by: BIONIC on May 07, 2019, 03:54:54 AM
How are fucking lightweights like this even allowed on this site? :yuck
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 07, 2019, 10:07:52 AM
Post by: Brehvolution on May 07, 2019, 11:37:20 AM
From the people that say you can't be born gay, but you can be born a conservative.
(https://i.imgur.com/pQRNFcT.gif)
Post by: team filler on May 08, 2019, 10:00:23 PM
:girlaff :snob
Post by: benjipwns on May 08, 2019, 11:41:40 PM
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1126185005472989193
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1126305899897704448
Post by: benjipwns on May 08, 2019, 11:42:51 PM
lol
Post by: benjipwns on May 08, 2019, 11:43:50 PM
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Virtual Challenges:rofl
Over a four-month period, you will tackle a series of virtual and real-world challenges from home, guided by a successful entrepreneur and paired with a committed peer, preparing you for the on-campus portion of the Acton program in Austin, Texas.
Acton School of Business Residence in Austin, Texas
During the five-month on-campus portion of the Acton MBA in Entrepreneurship, you will be led by experienced business leaders through grueling 100-hour weeks of simulations, hands-on exercises, and Socratic discussions. In every challenge, you will stand in the shoes of an entrepreneur, making difficult real-world decisions.
so you just watch a bunch of his stupid videos for four months instead of reading textbooks then go do the MBA? :dead :dead :dead :dead
Post by: Kara on May 08, 2019, 11:45:31 PM
:dead :dead :dead :dead :dead
Post by: benjipwns on May 08, 2019, 11:47:50 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 08, 2019, 11:48:37 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 08, 2019, 11:57:07 PM
https://www.evanvanness.com/post/61260397858/acton-mba-is-a-failed-experiment
http://www.treyedenton.com/blog/2015/9/14/bz3zjnn2vokkkr55l1fsps4swdvdtp
also a doubly good sign when you've changed your entire ten-month program since 2012 twice and rebranded it completely with a random famous person's endorsement when that person is not even close to being in the field or having any kind of background (like really, Trump pre-2015 is a infinitely better person to brand your MBA with than a fucking Canadian psychologist who did nothing else ever until a year prior when he discovered his Godly duty to fight for capitalism)
how do i use a fake e-mail to send this to every list serv i've ever been on facetiously suggesting we should partner
Post by: benjipwns on May 09, 2019, 12:00:45 AM
As personality grifts grow, there's always some component where you pay for xxxclusive access. This can take the form of a retreat, a camp, a seminar etc. The periphery may give you microtransactions here or there, maybe tickets for a talk in their city, but the truly faithful will open their wallets all the waywow low key shots fired at me for not keeping this thread up with souls transferred through the interdimensional pillar (http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=46246.0)
:rejoice
Post by: Mandark on May 09, 2019, 01:31:52 AM
Was it Mandark who said this is "hotep shit for white people"?
Dang that's a good line. I still have my moments.
Post by: Kara on May 09, 2019, 01:53:06 AM
jungiancel
:dead
Post by: benjipwns on May 09, 2019, 04:50:48 AM
Dude asked too many questions so they rejected him: https://www.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/aie2af/letter_i_was_accepted_as_a_peterson_fellow_for/
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Dr Peterson, the following is an unedited transcript of the email exchange I have had with Acton since being accepted as a Peterson Fellow. I'm confused. Your message of responsibility speaks to me deeply and it does not seem very "responsible" to ask someone to uproot their life, move across the country, lose a year of wages, go into $65,000+ in debt, all for a program that refuses to answer basic questions about your level of involvement. The Acton MBA seems like a wonderful standard program but Fellows applied for this because of YOUR NAME, not because of Acton. If you just signed off on this as a branding deal I'm profoundly disappointed. I'm flummoxed that you haven't mentioned it once in a public interview that I can find in the past months, not even your recent Q&A.
I spent well over 20 hours working on my submissions for this Fellowship. I'm so sad this time seems to have been wasted.
Perhaps you really are selecting for those "most comfortable with ambiguity" and they will get a chance to work with your team on the revolutionary online university project, I hope that's true, and I wish I could have been a part of it. I can not and will not risk my family's future for something that appears so outwardly unprofessional and sketchy. I hope you understand that I have personally contacted more than a dozen Fellowship Recipients who were fully accepted and rejected the offer for the same reasons I have. We are very unhappy and disillusioned. We are some of your most devoted fans. We deserve answers and an apology. I await your response.
My first email below was in response to my acceptance, I'm happy to provide you screenshots, I wish not to post them publicly to avoid sharing personally identifying information:
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CEO (Jeff Sandefer):Hi Topher, I’m replying for Chris, so he can focus on helping the last few applicants with extra financial aid and spend some time with his family. We appreciate the time you’ve spent in the audition process and hope you’ve gotten some value from it. And I applaud your skepticism; it’s a valuable trait. However, it doesn’t sound as if this is the right opportunity for you. The work we’ll be doing together requires a tolerance for ambiguity and will be messy. We’ve got a terrific team and a extraordinary group coming to Austin, but it’s a pioneering bunch. We don’t know many of the answers because emergent growth is unpredictable and we’ll be co-creating the future as we go. As to your questions, there’s a purpose behind every step in the audition process, because with each choice, each of us learns more. For example, we needed to ask for quick turnarounds because we were surprised when over 2300 people answered the call for only 50 spots. With such a limited number of fellowships, we had to rapidly process finalists to assemble the best cohort possible and give each person as timely a response as possible as we filled the last few precious spots. And the last thing we needed was more outreach from Dr. Peterson when we already had far too many qualified people on the waitlist. If you remain interested I’d hope you’d follow what the initial band of Peterson Fellows accomplishes, and if it seems attractive, re-audition for a later cohort where there’s more information available and less risk. Until then, we wish you all the best, Jeff
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A number of people are applying and are skeptical, some background on Acton: https://www.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/a3tpep/peterson_fellowship_acton_mba_something_doesnt/
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Does anyone else think there’s something mighty suspicious up with this Acton MBA thing Dr. Peterson is now advertising?
I got the email and jumped at the opportunity, applied immediately, got a reply from some “master teacher” saying my replies were consistent with top candidates and I would be auto forwarded to next round. “That’s cute” I thought.
Reached out to a friend, she applied, exact same thing happened, and we filled that form out in very different ways.
So I went on the site, filled out the form entirely randomly, put my name down as something like “w33dsmoker”, put options in the boxes that weren’t even possible, repeated this three times. Every single application had the same thing “wow congratulations auto forwarded to next round”, top candidate.
But it’s not even just that.
This course starts in February, and seems to be pretty much full time. For a man who’s preaching responsibility and getting your life together this seems like a rather large contradiction in terms. “Please uproot your entire life in 3 months”.
In addition there’s literally no detailed information as to what this course is, where it came from, and how involved Dr. Peterson actually is. If at all.
Does anyone feel something is up here? Perhaps some data gathering exercise, something gone massive wrong, or just a selling of the “Peterson” name to some institution?
Quote from: another guy
I just completed step 2 and preparing for step 3. You need to provide professional history, educational history, link to your LinkedIn profile, video response to a dilemma they pose and a Wonderlic test (link provided). I will complete this and let you know what happens next.
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I might be able to offer some perspective. I too have been accepted, but I have some "ties" to the Acton founder, Jeff Sandefer.
So it should be known that Jeff Sandefer is a somewhat conservative "activist." He founded the Acton Institute, which is a think tank that promotes individual liberty, and the Acton Academy, a homeschooling program that's based in the Hero's Journey (and challenging the modern public school system). He has been on the board of the Texas Public Policy Foundation, which is a conservative/libertarian group that advocates for economic freedom and individual liberty in Texas. He's spoken at Freedom Works too.
I spoke to someone who is personal friends with Sandefer (I promised not to disclose their name, so I'll just refer to them as "Earl"). Earl is like Sandefer - a very wealthy entrepreneur. From what Earl said, it sounds like the program is trying to get students to be able to have at least one one-on-one session with JBP. But it doesn't sound like JBP will be very involved besides that. Sandefer is a big believer in a lot of what Peterson announces. Note that Sandefer started Acton b/c he was fed up with the tenured business academics standing in the way of innovation.
It may be that JBP just accepted the deal knowing Sandefer is a big believer in individual liberties (he's spoken at FreedomWorks), and that Sandefer's school is different enough and not to bureaucratic to be able to accept JBP's name.
So, take what you will from this, but I figured I'd add this.
Quote from: another
You got a voicemail and everything? All I got was the following email:
"Dear ________
Congratulations again on making it to the finals of the Peterson Fellowships. Because of the high volume of top quality auditions, we’re having to make some difficult decisions as we get to the final selections and hope you will take a special test recommended by Dr. Peterson’s team to help us with these final selections.
Are you up to the challenge? If so, here are your next steps:
Watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwGDnSWmqhM
Take this assessment within the next 72 hours (please allow at least 45 minutes to complete the assessment).
Sincerely,
Acton MBA Admissions Team"
What do you think of this? It doesn't seem to resemble your experience at all. I'd like to find out whats on the other end of the assessment but I wont be able to complete it until tomorrow. Maybe they had their initial draft picks, and then their second ones? I guess I'd fall into that camp ?
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Peterson himself explains the way to transform how the world learns: https://www.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/8h9fis/last_night_in_dc_jbp_expanded_on_the_direction/
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Quote from: Jordan Peterson
I met today with my now three-person team to further develop the online university. We're employing a variety of statistical and computational strategies aimed at mapping out the most relevant domains of knowledge, as well as developing technology that will help people assess their knowledge in those domains, so they will be able to determine what they know and what they have yet to learn.
Quote from: Jordan Peterson
Initially – we’ll try to get beta users to do this to begin with – we want you to submit questions and we want you to submit the source of the answer to the questions. And then we’ll put the questions up and have people vote on their utility but also answer them, and then we can rank-order the questions in terms of difficulty.
You can do a process called item response theory. So, imagine you take a multiple choice test, and then you give a score on it, and then you analyze each of the questions: the good questions will be answered correctly by the people who did well on the test. And so you can analyze every single question for its utility as a marker for the knowledge domain. So you can organize questions – if they’re contributed by a large number of people – with regards to the utility of the questions. and so, we envision – to begin with – to set up a system that would enable people to map their domains of knowledge and then to chart a pathway to learning more. So that’s one set of modules, let’s say. We also want to figure out how we can help people learn to write and to speak and to think and to read, so there will be a knowledge domain and skill domain.
Now, how can you help? At the moment you can’t. it’s not easy to have people help on things. It’s hard to organize. But we do want to use as many people as we possibly can. Because one of the things we want to build into the system is a distributed administration, so that it’s not dependent on any one to administer…. So that it’s self-organizing and self-improving, so that the system will just get better and better as people use it. And so we’re going to try to build that into the architecture.
Now, I don’t know if we can pull this off. And like I said, it’s premature to even talk about it. But that’s the sort of thing we’ve started to discuss. As soon as we can possibly manage it, we’ll start inviting people to contribute, because we can build huge databases of questions very, very rapidly if we have lots of users. And if we get the statistical processes right, we can really start to map out these domains of knowledge.
So we’re thinking that would be a good way of making testing non-punitive. ‘Cause if you’re at high school or university and you take a test and you fail, it’s like someone’s beating you with a stick. Your ignorance is revealed, but in a catastrophic way. This would do it differently. It’d say, “Look: you know about as much about biology to put you above 20% of the people who’ve done this exam. So, that’s not too bad, it’s not nothing. You’re better than 1 in 5. But if you want to know more about it, here’s a pathway forward. You spend 15 hours on this and you’ll put yourself up in the 30th percentile.” And you can do that with all sorts of different domains. And so hopefully we can make those pathways to knowledge available to everyone…
So the goals are:
To educate the largest number of people possible
With the minimal possible overhead and cost
In the most efficient possible way
That’s the mission statement. And I think we’ve got the technology - especially if people collaborate on this - to do that... to make a deadly, deadly learning system.
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I'm surprised at how negative these threads about it on the r/JordanPeterson subreddit are, especially looking at what I guess is the normal content for the subreddit, at least these people are being skeptical about their wank dad though they seem to think it's less his fault and he, as the Tsar in the desiccated castle, may be unaware
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 09, 2019, 09:25:31 AM
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1126185463226687488
:girlaff :snob
Or: The five books everybody has to read in high school English class.
Post by: BisMarckie on May 09, 2019, 09:27:53 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 09, 2019, 09:32:08 AM
I have read three of them in an ESL class. AMA
Sounds like you're ready to apply for a Peterson Fellowship at the Tough Acton Tinactin School of Business.
Post by: BisMarckie on May 09, 2019, 09:38:34 AM
Post by: Kara on May 09, 2019, 09:40:18 AM
Post by: BisMarckie on May 09, 2019, 09:44:38 AM
I wish I'd had to read Moby Dick in high school.
What did you have to read instead? Pasternak? :doge
Post by: benjipwns on May 09, 2019, 10:06:22 AM
Is Jordan gonna be there or is this a Kamp Krusty situation?let's just say you don't want to get your hopes up about seeing that fireworks factory
Post by: Kara on May 09, 2019, 10:11:48 AM
I wish I'd had to read Moby Dick in high school.
What did you have to read instead? Pasternak? :doge
The year we studied U.S. literature we read The Scarlet Letter and The Great Gatsby.
Post by: agrajag on May 09, 2019, 10:12:59 AM
I wish I'd had to read Moby Dick in high school.
What did you have to read instead? Pasternak? :doge
The year we studied U.S. literature we read The Scarlet Letter and The Great Gatsby.
wtf did we go to the same school?
Post by: agrajag on May 09, 2019, 10:18:15 AM
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1126185463226687488
:girlaff :snob
Or: The five books everybody has to read in high school English class.
I never had to read East of Eden or Moby Dick
:ufup
Post by: Brehvolution on May 09, 2019, 10:47:42 AM
✔️ Learn how to make money....by starting a Patreon. :doge
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 09, 2019, 11:01:43 AM
✔️ Learn how to make money....by starting a Patreon. :doge
Woah, looks like we've got an Acton grad on the board.
Post by: toku on May 09, 2019, 12:05:35 PM
Post by: Brehvolution on May 09, 2019, 04:29:28 PM
Post by: agrajag on May 09, 2019, 08:36:59 PM
Rubin has a cartoon caricature dumb person voice
Post by: team filler on May 10, 2019, 09:52:18 AM
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Post by: Nintex on May 10, 2019, 01:52:50 PM
DRAMATIC scenes
Post by: agrajag on May 10, 2019, 02:23:25 PM
Quote from: Ben Shapiro
Here’s how this sort of thing typically works. A liberal says something decent about a person who has said things not in keeping with the liberal agenda; Twitter trolls drag comments out of context to suggest that this person is actually an evil human being; liberal retracts. That’s not unusual. It’s now happened to Kevin Williamson, Bari Weiss, Daniella Greenbaum, Sam Harris, Bret Weinstein, Dave Rubin, Jason Riley, Heather MacDonald, Jordan Peterson, Charles Murray, and many others.
:dead
Post by: Brehvolution on May 10, 2019, 02:55:00 PM
Post by: toku on May 10, 2019, 03:28:30 PM
https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1126882091868749824
even reddit conservatives are roasting him over this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/bn01ab/ben_shapiro_storms_out_of_bbc_uk_interview_im/
Post by: El Babua on May 10, 2019, 03:50:45 PM
Post by: Kara on May 10, 2019, 04:32:29 PM
Quote from: Ben ShapiroHere’s how this sort of thing typically works. A liberal says something decent about a person who has said things not in keeping with the liberal agenda; Twitter trolls drag comments out of context to suggest that this person is actually an evil human being; liberal retracts. That’s not unusual. It’s now happened to Kevin Williamson, Bari Weiss, Daniella Greenbaum, Sam Harris, Bret Weinstein, Dave Rubin, Jason Riley, Heather MacDonald, Jordan Peterson, Charles Murray, and many others.
:dead
(https://i.imgur.com/mFipxpx.jpg)
Post by: Himu on May 10, 2019, 05:32:28 PM
https://news.avclub.com/start-your-weekend-right-with-this-wreck-of-a-ben-shapi-1834677765
Post by: Himu on May 10, 2019, 05:41:59 PM
GG college tards and communist dumb asses
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Post by: Himu on May 10, 2019, 05:56:35 PM
Post by: BIONIC on May 10, 2019, 06:23:50 PM
Lmao this dude
Pushed heavily for Britain to enter the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, hired the UK's foremost Holocaust denier to translate Goebell's diaries, climate change denier, AIDS denier, all around shit head by every single account about him online.
A real one :tocry
Post by: Himu on May 10, 2019, 06:27:29 PM
I don't really care. Not everything has to be a purity test.
Ah yes... The purity test of..... *checks notes* not fucking with people after they show support for Hungarian fascists
What does that have to do with owning Ben Shapiro? Who really gives a fuck during this point and time? I sure don't. "One time he said" is one of the most bs leftist purity tests there is. Cheering the dude on for owning Shapiro and making funny one liners is completely irrelevant to his support for Hungarian fascists. No one has the time for that kind of virtue signaling when we're all trying to enjoy the guy one up this mewling man baby.
This is the problem with leftism. Dude has a good interview and owns Shapiro. People pat dude on the back as if that means they support him, when really, they're just laughing at lil' Benny.
Leftists: But what about the time he supported fascists and supported the Iraq war?
Who cares.
Post by: Nintex on May 10, 2019, 06:30:06 PM
*mainstream media interviews*
"HALP HALP I'm being harassed!"
Post by: Himu on May 10, 2019, 06:32:24 PM
"The mainstream media doesn't dare to debate!"
*mainstream media interviews*
"HALP HALP I'm being harassed!"
:rejoice
Favorite part is where he accuses him of money grabbing. Money grabbing via the BBC... :lol
Post by: Himu on May 10, 2019, 06:35:53 PM
Stro went and googled him and found almost all of his terrible reactionary positions in the time you spent typing that up :rejoice
I'll be frank. I'm past the point of caring.
Post by: Nintex on May 10, 2019, 06:43:52 PM
Instutions such as governments, intelligence services, news media and banks were considered trustworthy.That illusion disolved quickly past 2008.
Post by: Himu on May 10, 2019, 06:48:54 PM
Instutions such as governments, intelligence services, news media and banks were considered trustworthy.That illusion disolved quickly past 2008.
:sabu
Post by: agrajag on May 10, 2019, 06:50:18 PM
:brazilcry
Post by: Himu on May 10, 2019, 06:53:02 PM
Post by: Nintex on May 10, 2019, 06:55:29 PM
Trust in the institutions eroded.
Post by: Himu on May 10, 2019, 07:06:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvgnOqcCYCM
A normal person: Haha! Get him Obama!
A leftist: Haha Obama owned Trump in this video but did you guys know that he sent drones to arab nations that bombed innocent people using terrorist watch lists, expanded the deportation of illegal immigrants, and sold weapons to cartels in Mexico?
Normal person: In this context, who really gives a shit?
Leftist: But don't know you how twisted Obama is?!
Post by: BisMarckie on May 10, 2019, 07:15:17 PM
Post by: Himu on May 10, 2019, 07:15:28 PM
https://youtu.be/JaC1-U8LIY0
A normal person: Haha, I don't like him but I think he made a good point!
A leftist fgt: But did you know that he said transphobic things before?! He is a transphobe!!
:idont
Don't care.
Post by: BisMarckie on May 10, 2019, 07:17:19 PM
Obama promised to shut down Guantanamo.
See the difference?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 10, 2019, 07:21:02 PM
as an sjw i find characterizing bill maher as someone capable of entertaining very offensive :maf
I already edited it bb, because I thought the same thing. :-*
Post by: BIONIC on May 10, 2019, 07:22:17 PM
Post by: curly on May 10, 2019, 07:25:16 PM
spending your day off trawling the internet for info about the latest DSA shitstorm :ohyeah
Post by: agrajag on May 10, 2019, 07:25:36 PM
I think I'd rather watch a Conservative Comedy (TM) show than listen to Bill Maher for even 10 seconds. Just the worst.
here you go, bap bap bap
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL75B74ED15E990CB2 (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL75B74ED15E990CB2)
Post by: curly on May 10, 2019, 07:27:42 PM
me, an intellectual:
https://twitter.com/SoellerPower/status/1125394120229388288
Post by: Kara on May 10, 2019, 07:28:49 PM
:ohyeah giving a shit about how the bad TV show with dragons doesn't live up to the bad books about dragons whose author can't even be arsed to finish them
Post by: BisMarckie on May 10, 2019, 07:43:13 PM
Post by: BisMarckie on May 10, 2019, 07:56:27 PM
They 👏 are 👏 not 👏 the 👏 same.
Do the differences really matter? lol no
but I wrote a paper about those differences once :smug
it was not very good though. :goty2
Post by: BisMarckie on May 10, 2019, 08:09:00 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 10, 2019, 08:33:58 PM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on May 10, 2019, 08:50:01 PM
I could rewrite it with wrestling terms so you are able to understand it. :hulkthe Beer Hall Screwjob ushering in the attitüde Epoche :bow2
Post by: Oblivion on May 10, 2019, 11:02:46 PM
The baby IDWers love the gamer word, folks.
https://twitter.com/IGD_News/status/1126670175384662016
why does this keep happening :(
Post by: Oblivion on May 10, 2019, 11:14:50 PM
:badass
Post by: Mandark on May 11, 2019, 01:28:08 AM
Post by: agrajag on May 11, 2019, 02:55:31 AM
If shapiro cam into a realm that reflected me, he'd run. Molyneux sees us horsefuckers and runs straight at us.
translator's note: horsefuckers is Joe Rogan
Post by: shosta on May 11, 2019, 01:54:50 PM
Post by: team filler on May 11, 2019, 02:01:24 PM
Post by: team filler on May 11, 2019, 06:45:09 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 14, 2019, 05:48:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQLdhVpLBVE
Post by: agrajag on May 14, 2019, 03:10:43 PM
Post by: shosta on May 14, 2019, 04:57:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_JGlS_qHSA
Post by: benjipwns on May 15, 2019, 01:08:07 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 15, 2019, 01:15:54 PM
https://twitter.com/SebGorka/status/1128289507902730241
X-posting from the Outside Link Thread:
https://twitter.com/bookareida/status/1128400475324157953
Post by: Oblivion on May 15, 2019, 03:55:39 PM
Post by: agrajag on May 15, 2019, 04:23:24 PM
Post by: Oblivion on May 15, 2019, 06:53:46 PM
Steven Crowder voiced Brain in Arthur.
Steven Crowder you say? The same Steven Crowder who said the following:
"If you allow rape exceptions, the rapist can keep raping because abortion gets rid of the evidence, so by not allowing her to get abortion, the rapist will be caught"
?
edit: oh dammit. Sorry, that was Matt Walsh, not Crowder. :fbm
Post by: agrajag on May 15, 2019, 06:55:21 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 15, 2019, 07:17:44 PM
Quote
Alan "Brain" Powers (voiced by Luke Reid 1996–1999; Steven Crowder 2000–2001; Alex Hood 2002–2005; Paul-Stuart Brown 2004–2007; James Buckholder 2006; Lyle O'Donohue 2008–2012; Siam Yu 2012–2014; Max Friedman Cole 2014-2018; Evan Blaylock 2019-present) is a bear of Senegalese descent,[1] and celebrates Kwanzaa.lol
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 15, 2019, 10:01:19 PM
Post by: Kara on May 17, 2019, 10:43:08 AM
Post by: VomKriege on May 17, 2019, 02:25:50 PM
Hard times all around since Nicolas Sarkozy himself is mired in a couple of neverending lawsuit for fraud :'(
Post by: Kara on May 17, 2019, 02:58:49 PM
https://twitter.com/SomeCleverPun/status/1129175231996747776
Post by: Nintex on May 17, 2019, 03:16:00 PM
The Roswell UFO was orchestrated by Stalin :whoo
Post by: agrajag on May 18, 2019, 11:14:13 AM
Post by: Nintex on May 18, 2019, 06:04:20 PM
Post by: Himu on May 18, 2019, 11:13:46 PM
hilarious.
https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1117974211652284416
I don't understand why Richard Spencer thinks the Notre Dame will have white people spring into action. Notre Dame is a part of the Catholic Archdiocese of Paris. Notre Dame is the archdiocese cathedral. More and more Catholics across the world aren't even white.
Post by: Himu on May 18, 2019, 11:52:12 PM
https://twitter.com/GamerTakes/status/1128363254689009670
Although a funny tweet, this twitter feed is wack.
https://twitter.com/GamerTakes/status/1115075862477574145
The comments are disgusting. You cannot play, you cannot play. Fuck off. This isn't a charity and using disabled people to justify your shit tier game skills isn't it, amigo.
Post by: Mandark on May 19, 2019, 01:08:54 AM
Post by: Himu on May 19, 2019, 01:50:39 AM
:badass
A lot of people make pointless analogies with hard games so I'll contribute mine. It's like spicy food and roller coasters.
People who don't like spicy food think that people who do, do so only for bragging rights. While it's true that some people brag for the sake of it that they ate such as such spicy dish or pepper, I'd wager most people who like spicy food enjoy it for the taste and experience. I like the burn and I really enjoy eating spicy food. So when I see people demanding an easy in a time when most games coddle and handhold, yeah I'm going to have a problem with it. Because you're going into my spicy food and watering it down and demanding that it be watered down so you can enjoy it, when the reason I want to eat it is the spice to begin with therefore ruining what I like about it. I haven't been able to enjoy games at all this decade because of the more watered down games. It's especially funny how they think people only play hard games for bragging rights when a lot of the hardest games I've played are niche games that sell less than 50k and have a dedicated fanbase. No one is bragging about shit. We like the experience.
I used to be fine with allowing lower difficulties. But now I'm of the mind that you should never, ever cater to people who want easier games. Because there's no bottom for them. They'll always want it a little easier. They'll always try to take a little more. And that's why FF is an action rpg now because "well I prefer action combat to turn based". Just like how people who don't like spicy food will always prefer it light as possible. So rather than demand an Indian dish be less spicy I've mulled it over and decided fuck you, just ignore Indian food to begin with.
Might sound elitist but...:idont It's definitely not my goal to sound that way.
And what actually angers me is how they hide behind disabled players when accessibility and difficulty are two different things. There's accessibility for convenience (auto save) and accessibility for common courtesy (subtitles). Conflating difficulty with accessibility is in many ways insulting.
So yeah, that twitter feed is wack and made up of soft bois.
(https://i.imgur.com/AwvAZYm.jpg)
Post by: Mandark on May 19, 2019, 01:58:22 AM
Maybe some companies are too financially stressed to implement multiple difficulty levels (I don't know shit about vidya development) but apart from that I don't see what the downside would be.
Post by: Himu on May 19, 2019, 09:55:41 AM
I have a friend who very readily admits to being bad at games, and fairly frequently watches let's play videos or watches their partner play a game which they wouldn't be able to progress through themselves.
Maybe some companies are too financially stressed to implement multiple difficulty levels (I don't know shit about vidya development) but apart from that I don't see what the downside would be.
Eh. For me it’s a downward slope. First they implement easy mode. Then the next few games they try to strip it of difficulty entirely. I’ve seen it happen it so many times I no longer support it. Happened to SMT. Here’s this hardcore dungeon crawl series. There is only two modes: normal or hard. Then they add an easy mode in P3. Okay. But now they take away a key feature that made the simulation work so your choices have more weight in the tired feature in P4. But then with P4 Persona series starts to get really popular. So this more stripped down dungeon crawler becomes the developers norm. Why? Because it sells better. So then they decide eventually to Persona-ize the main, more hardcore, series and make it easier to appeal to people. Now you’ve got people complaining about how the next Persona shouldn’t have game over if MC dies. Why? Because they’ll always want a little more. Now the cycle is complete and that really deep dungeon crawl series becomes a shadow of itself. Made purely to entertain the masses. They’re no longer niche, but they’re no longer as good as they used to be.
And now these people want From to settle. If they did the same thing would likely happen. It’s what happened to The Elder Scrolls as well. Bethesda Fallout. From Fallout 3 to 4 they made it even more brain dead to appeal to more people. From rpg post nuclear sim to killing the hardest enemy in the series 30 minutes within starting. Final Fantasy too. “I don’t like turn based combat so I think it’s good that the Final Fantasy VII Remake isn’t because that means I’ll play it despite the fact the original is turn based.” Changing your identity to appeal to players that don’t even like you. Once you start giving away parts of your soul to try to appease people that don’t even like you, you’ll never stop trying to appeal to people who don’t like you.
Never give them a quarter. Never appeal to people who want it easier or “I’d like to play but I can’t.” It’s always a death knell.
Post by: Himu on May 19, 2019, 10:33:46 AM
Here’s a Pakman vid on Shapiro.
https://youtu.be/keuNlk8DdQE
Post by: VomKriege on May 19, 2019, 10:42:12 AM
As to Mandark question I guess the answer is "designer's intent" really. Most games are tests of wits or skill for one, and sometimes difficulty is a core pillar of the experience one way or the other. I don't know why developers should settle for that if they don't want too when designing hard, less approachable games carries its own handicap with regards to commercial appeal.
Post by: Himu on May 19, 2019, 10:45:21 AM
Post by: paprikastaude on May 19, 2019, 10:48:55 AM
I have a friend who very readily admits to being bad at games, and fairly frequently watches let's play videos or watches their partner play a game which they wouldn't be able to progress through themselves.
Maybe some companies are too financially stressed to implement multiple difficulty levels (I don't know shit about vidya development) but apart from that I don't see what the downside would be.
Eh. For me it’s a downward slope. First they implement easy mode. Then the next few games they try to strip it of difficulty entirely. I’ve seen it happen it so many times I no longer support it. Happened to SMT. Here’s this hardcore dungeon crawl series. There is only two modes: normal or hard. Then they add an easy mode in P3. Okay. But now they take away a key feature that made the simulation work so your choices have more weight in the tired feature in P4. But then with P4 Persona series starts to get really popular. So this more stripped down dungeon crawler becomes the developers norm. Why? Because it sells better. So then they decide eventually to Persona-ize the main, more hardcore, series and make it easier to appeal to people. Now you’ve got people complaining about how the next Persona shouldn’t have game over if MC dies. Why? Because they’ll always want a little more. Now the cycle is complete and that really deep dungeon crawl series becomes a shadow of itself. Made purely to entertain the masses. They’re no longer niche, but they’re no longer as good as they used to be.
And now these people want From to settle. If they did the same thing would likely happen. It’s what happened to The Elder Scrolls as well. Bethesda Fallout. From Fallout 3 to 4 they made it even more brain dead to appeal to more people. From rpg post nuclear sim to killing the hardest enemy in the series 30 minutes within starting. Final Fantasy too. “I don’t like turn based combat so I think it’s good that the Final Fantasy VII Remake isn’t because that means I’ll play it despite the fact the original is turn based.” Changing your identity to appeal to players that don’t even like you. Once you start giving away parts of your soul to try to appease people that don’t even like you, you’ll never stop trying to appeal to people who don’t like you.
Never give them a quarter. Never appeal to people who want it easier or “I’d like to play but I can’t.” It’s always a death knell.
:confused FF7 has braindead easy gameplay, basically baby's first RPG compared to what came prior and everything you whine about - I wouldn't be surprised if the new one is actually a little less baby-ish in its difficulty. also I have no idea what this thread is.
Post by: Himu on May 19, 2019, 10:53:55 AM
:confused FF7 has braindead easy gameplay, basically baby's first RPG and what you whine about compared to what came prior - I wouldn't be surprised if the new one is actually a little less baby-ish in its difficulty.
That actually lends credence to my downward slope argument. 20 years ago they decided to make FF7 easy as hell so it’s very popular and appealing. Now its gotten to the point where they think it should be an action rpg. Because trying to appeal to people never stops. I never once argued that the original ff7 is a challenging game. If anything I’m implicating the opposite.
Post by: Kara on May 19, 2019, 11:12:30 AM
As to Mandark question I guess the answer is "designer's intent" really. Most games are tests of wits or skill for one, and sometimes difficulty is a core pillar of the experience one way or the other. I don't know why developers should settle for that if they don't want too when designing hard, less approachable games carries its own handicap with regards to commercial appeal.
Because they aren't artists grappling with The Big Stuff (TM), they're manufacturers of mass media.
Post by: Himu on May 19, 2019, 11:29:33 AM
As to Mandark question I guess the answer is "designer's intent" really. Most games are tests of wits or skill for one, and sometimes difficulty is a core pillar of the experience one way or the other. I don't know why developers should settle for that if they don't want too when designing hard, less approachable games carries its own handicap with regards to commercial appeal.
Because they aren't artists grappling with The Big Stuff (TM), they're manufacturers of mass media.
(https://i.imgur.com/rPukJVf.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/a3IXzZ4.png)
Post by: Himu on May 19, 2019, 11:31:23 AM
I play games on easy and skip the cutscenes these days. I'm fully in it for the graphics and reject all notions of games as art
https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1130116461278703617?
I endorse this.
I don’t support punch a Nazi, but I’ll gladly throw a drink on them.
Post by: Kara on May 19, 2019, 11:44:37 AM
Post by: agrajag on May 19, 2019, 12:17:10 PM
Post by: VomKriege on May 19, 2019, 12:18:53 PM
Link to podcast.
https://www.idlethumbs.net/3ma/episodes/hard-times-or-easy-living
Most of the podcast episode isn't about that specifically, it's covered in the intro mostly.
Post by: VomKriege on May 19, 2019, 01:11:57 PM
As to Mandark question I guess the answer is "designer's intent" really. Most games are tests of wits or skill for one, and sometimes difficulty is a core pillar of the experience one way or the other. I don't know why developers should settle for that if they don't want too when designing hard, less approachable games carries its own handicap with regards to commercial appeal.
Because they aren't artists grappling with The Big Stuff (TM), they're manufacturers of mass media.
I'm not sure what games potentially classify as is pertinent to that debate really ? I don't think it's too iconoclast to say that most solitaire / one player games are generally meant as a challenge (achieve victory conditions under whatever set of arbitrary rules and conditions were designed) involving luck, skill, practice or wits. I don't think you can downsize rules or the challenge indefinitely to accommodate everyone without breaking many game designs and diluting their whole raison d'être to nothing.
And I would say that difficulty for videogames can be a "narrative" tool as well (regardless of how artful you would consider the "story" or "propos").
Games are entertainment, non-essential and so plentiful in every form and difficulty for every sort of public that I don't really understand why From should have to include an easy mode, just like I wouldn't expect a 6 year old kid to be able to beat and enjoy Korsun Pocket.
:yeshrug
Post by: BisMarckie on May 19, 2019, 02:54:31 PM
Marketplace of Sexual Ideas
Should be the official slogan of the Bire
Post by: agrajag on May 19, 2019, 04:15:56 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on May 19, 2019, 08:00:32 PM
a big common thread among these IDW folk is that they want to restore traditional gender norms. They basically want women to go back to being housewives, pop out and raise babies and take up knitting, etc.
The term was coined by Eric Weinstein. I believe he is a liberal. I don't think he has stated this anywhere. And I also believe Stefan Molyneux isn't really associated with that group.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOBa9sRn2zE
Post by: Leadbelly on May 19, 2019, 08:03:32 PM
I play games on easy and skip the cutscenes these days. I'm fully in it for the graphics and reject all notions of games as art
https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1130116461278703617?
I endorse this.
I don’t support punch a Nazi, but I’ll gladly throw a drink on them.
While both have reasons to criticise them, neither of them are Nazis.
Post by: agrajag on May 19, 2019, 08:03:51 PM
Post by: shosta on May 19, 2019, 08:04:04 PM
Post by: Himu on May 19, 2019, 08:05:06 PM
I play games on easy and skip the cutscenes these days. I'm fully in it for the graphics and reject all notions of games as art
https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1130116461278703617?
I endorse this.
I don’t support punch a Nazi, but I’ll gladly throw a drink on them.
While both have reasons to criticise them, neither of them are Nazis.
My bad. Thought that was Richard Spencer. I don't remember nazi's facial features.
Post by: Himu on May 19, 2019, 08:08:38 PM
milkshakes are delicious. they don't deserve milkshakes. Can we change it to apple cider vinegar from now on?
Post by: Leadbelly on May 19, 2019, 08:11:42 PM
the group is dumb to begin with, so I don't really care about lumping people of their ilk together.
I think people should though, and that's the problem. You can't really argue about RE doing it, if you do the same thing depending on the person. I think it is important to accurately represent your opponents views for a number of reasons.
So for example, the other post I responded to: Tommy Robinson has on a number of occasions, referred to the problem of Islamisation with all Muslims. Whether it just slipped out casually in the moment or intentionally, either way that is an irresponsible thing to do. That is something to criticise him for. It doesn't mean he is a Nazi though, and incorrectly referring to people like Tommy as such only makes you seem intellectually dishonest, but it also paints them as the victim. The person unfairly being attacked.
Post by: shosta on May 19, 2019, 08:12:11 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on May 19, 2019, 08:16:04 PM
I play games on easy and skip the cutscenes these days. I'm fully in it for the graphics and reject all notions of games as art
https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1130116461278703617?
I endorse this.
I don’t support punch a Nazi, but I’ll gladly throw a drink on them.
While both have reasons to criticise them, neither of them are Nazis.
My bad. Thought that was Richard Spencer. I don't remember nazi's facial features.
He does kind of look like him there. Funny thing though, he is almost seen as a kind of Richard Spencer in the UK. It is the kind of thing he is accused of being by many people.
Post by: Leadbelly on May 19, 2019, 08:20:21 PM
This is the third video I have posted in this thread of Douglas Murray, but he does honestly give the most accurate description of Tommy. Again, as I mentioned though, the guy is not without criticism, but he isn't what people have painted him as.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7g8AZxntgs
Post by: agrajag on May 19, 2019, 08:26:58 PM
Post by: Oblivion on May 19, 2019, 09:05:01 PM
Post by: Oblivion on May 19, 2019, 09:08:29 PM
Post by: naff on May 19, 2019, 09:28:35 PM
As to Mandark question I guess the answer is "designer's intent" really. Most games are tests of wits or skill for one, and sometimes difficulty is a core pillar of the experience one way or the other. I don't know why developers should settle for that if they don't want too when designing hard, less approachable games carries its own handicap with regards to commercial appeal.
Because they aren't artists grappling with The Big Stuff (TM), they're manufacturers of mass media.
I'm not sure what games potentially classify as is pertinent to that debate really ? I don't think it's too iconoclast to say that most solitaire / one player games are generally meant as a challenge (achieve victory conditions under whatever set of arbitrary rules and conditions were designed) involving luck, skill, practice or wits. I don't think you can downsize rules or the challenge indefinitely to accommodate everyone without breaking many game designs and diluting their whole raison d'être to nothing.
And I would say that difficulty for videogames can be a "narrative" tool as well (regardless of how artful you would consider the "story" or "propos").
Games are entertainment, non-essential and so plentiful in every form and difficulty for every sort of public that I don't really understand why From should have to include an easy mode, just like I wouldn't expect a 6 year old kid to be able to beat and enjoy Korsun Pocket.
:yeshrug
all power to those people and organisations making legitimate moves to improve software accessibility for people with disabilities. i don't buy that people yelling the "fuck the gatekeepers" call to arms, and justifying it by claiming it's about "accessibility" but only applying it to incredibly specific scenarios, actually give enough of a shit to say anything when it isn't driven by their true angst "i want my consumption of popular media to be as easy as possible", or a (understandable) chip on their shoulder due to hating on an aspect of a certain games fanbase.
Post by: Oblivion on May 19, 2019, 10:36:54 PM
Milkshakes unnecessarily exploit animals. We should throw rotten tomatoes at reactionaries instead
Plants feel pain too, you fascist!
https://twitter.com/discordspies/status/1130107750510473216
Post by: agrajag on May 19, 2019, 11:23:37 PM
Post by: Rufus on May 20, 2019, 05:20:50 AM
Post by: Kara on May 20, 2019, 10:11:08 AM
https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1130463965497188352
Post by: BisMarckie on May 20, 2019, 10:21:12 AM
https://twitter.com/SamHarrisOrg/status/1130163073082224640
This has been true for antifa groups since the 90s when I was a teenager.
Truly an enlightened take.
Post by: Rufus on May 20, 2019, 10:21:24 AM
https://twitter.com/SamHarrisOrg/status/1130163073082224640
Is that actually paradoxical? Did it say 'ironic' in an earlier draft? :thinking
Post by: shosta on May 20, 2019, 12:57:38 PM
Post by: Kara on May 20, 2019, 04:13:54 PM
:lol
Post by: agrajag on May 20, 2019, 08:51:13 PM
don't let the bourgeoisie seduce you with their promises of milkshakes, comrades
Post by: shosta on May 20, 2019, 08:52:51 PM
Post by: agrajag on May 20, 2019, 09:18:11 PM
Post by: agrajag on May 20, 2019, 10:58:25 PM
Post by: Rufus on May 22, 2019, 09:11:00 PM
https://twitter.com/BilboBobgans/status/1131359844424925184
:lol
Post by: shosta on May 22, 2019, 09:16:07 PM
Post by: Kara on May 22, 2019, 09:21:14 PM
Post by: Rufus on May 22, 2019, 09:23:12 PM
"medications factory" instead of "pharmaceuticals plant" :-\Didn't even notice. Dude must not be a native speaker either.
Post by: shosta on May 22, 2019, 09:29:01 PM
nice, gottem
Post by: Rufus on May 22, 2019, 09:30:15 PM
Too lazy to look this up, but I'd drop a fiver on Sam Harris condoning actual assassinations in the so-called War on Terror, either outright or through some tedious argument about exigent circumstances demanding situational morals.Pretty sure he views them as a (regrettable?) necessity. I'm extrapolating from his views/justification of torture.
Quote
The only way to rule out collateral damage would be to refuse to fight wars under any circumstances. As a foreign policy, this would leave us with something like the absolute pacifism of Gandhi. While pacifism in this form can constitute a direct confrontation with injustice (and requires considerable bravery), it is only applicable to a limited range of human conflicts. Where it is not applicable, it is seems flagrantly immoral. We would do well to reflect on Gandhi’s remedy for the Holocaust: he believed that the Jews should have committed mass suicide, because this “would have aroused the world and the people of Germany to Hitler’s violence.” We might wonder what a world full of pacifists would have done once it had grown “aroused”—commit suicide as well? There seems no question that if all the good people in the world adopted Gandhi’s ethics, the thugs would inherit the earth.https://samharris.org/in-defense-of-torture/
So we can now ask, if we are willing to act in a way that guarantees the misery and death of some considerable number of innocent children, why spare the rod with known terrorists?
Post by: shosta on May 22, 2019, 09:32:07 PM
Post by: agrajag on May 22, 2019, 09:33:47 PM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1131271997357469696
nice, gottem
wouldn't it be more logical:
- alt-rights love milk
- let's feed them some milk
?
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 22, 2019, 11:16:48 PM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1131271997357469696
nice, gottem
wouldn't it be more logical:
- alt-rights love milk
- let's feed them some milk
?
- Stefan Molyneux is racist.
- Dumping Stefan Molyneux into a pile of unopened copies of Black & White is not racist.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 22, 2019, 11:32:33 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 22, 2019, 11:44:39 PM
https://twitter.com/SamHarrisOrg/status/1131263791415595009:mindblown
how do
what wouldn't
i don't see
but that doesn't
Post by: Crash Dummy on May 23, 2019, 02:12:00 AM
he got btfo'd by william lane craig of all people in a few sentences during a debate iirc, i wouldn't go looking for much logical consistency in anything harris sayshttps://twitter.com/SamHarrisOrg/status/1131263791415595009:mindblown
how do
what wouldn't
i don't see
but that doesn't
Post by: Oblivion on May 23, 2019, 05:07:03 AM
https://twitter.com/SamHarrisOrg/status/1131263791415595009:mindblown
how do
what wouldn't
i don't see
but that doesn't
I legitimately make an effort to give Harris the benefit of the doubt most of the time, and he almost always winds up disappointing me.
Post by: BIONIC on May 23, 2019, 05:11:00 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9mspMJTNEY&feature=youtu.be
Is contra points a wank mommy?
Post by: Momo on May 24, 2019, 11:03:28 AM
Incoming Carl of Exeter #metoo :doge
Post by: Nintex on May 24, 2019, 01:37:00 PM
Russian spies :whew
Glitch in the matrix
https://twitter.com/UkipExeter/status/1114332289461256192 (https://twitter.com/UkipExeter/status/1114332289461256192)
Post by: benjipwns on May 24, 2019, 01:55:35 PM
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Far from being ‘paid support’ as their desperate critics suggest, the Grants are both highly intelligent Brexiteersoh...okay?
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 24, 2019, 02:46:19 PM
I don't get what the "revelation" is supposed to be?QuoteFar from being ‘paid support’ as their desperate critics suggest, the Grants are both highly intelligent Brexiteersoh...okay?
The point is, here's some more pictures of underage girls! They're highly educated and have HUGE tracks of lands.
Post by: Kara on May 24, 2019, 03:07:06 PM
Related: Someone "had a milkshake thrown on them by the so-called tolerant left" and it took an unexpected yet wholly British Conservative turn. Funny innit.
https://twitter.com/Limerick1914/status/1131824712110215168
Post by: benjipwns on May 24, 2019, 03:19:39 PM
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Sergeant MacNaughton alleged that the unarmed man was shot while attempting to escape, while the man claimed he was ordered by MacNaughton to climb over a fence to the flank of the patrol and was shot by him when he did so."Good enough for one, two would have looked suspicious...killed while attempting escape. Now that's convincing for both." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2wBtcmE5W8)
MacNaughton – who was in his mid-30s at the time – was found not guilty of both charges by the Belfast City Commission on September 5, 1974.
The judge ruled that the evidence of the civilian was "unsatisfactory and inconsistent in certain details", whereas the evidence of the accused and other soldiers "fitted together and was not mutually contradictory".
Post by: shosta on May 24, 2019, 03:31:23 PM
one of my ambitions for this thread is that it'll transition from the more IRL wank dad analysis to Extremely Online YouTube discourse of Nazis because they really are quite something.we gotta start with some bridge material first, like racist youtubers posting wank daddery
https://twitter.com/JoeySalads/status/1131049710045655040
Post by: Kara on May 24, 2019, 06:36:05 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/P5nqmeF.jpg)
Be sure to show your trad wife all your books, buddy!
Post by: BisMarckie on May 24, 2019, 06:54:15 PM
Bigger scam: PUA or religion? :punch
Post by: benjipwns on May 24, 2019, 06:57:35 PM
Post by: toku on May 24, 2019, 06:57:57 PM
Be sure to show your trad wife all your books, buddy!
Being able to put all that shit aside by being Saved by the Lord :lawd
The old man is dead! The new king has risen! Amen.
Post by: benjipwns on May 24, 2019, 07:00:18 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 24, 2019, 07:00:47 PM
Speaking of right sex pathologies, RIP PUA. Killed by Denmark or whatever post-Viking culture it was that owned you so hard with the social fascist welfare state that you broke kayfabe to mewl about it.
(https://i.imgur.com/P5nqmeF.jpg)
Be sure to show your trad wife all your books, buddy!
(https://i.imgur.com/sD0kfOe.jpg)
Post by: benjipwns on May 24, 2019, 07:01:01 PM
Post by: Kara on May 24, 2019, 07:05:27 PM
what if the masturbation, oral sex, anal sex and etc. is with your married wife? wouldn't that be sexual activity while married? this is too confusing
I'm sure if you pay him money he'll allay any fears you might have.
(My phone suggested Allah before allay because I'm on several watch lists.)
Post by: benjipwns on May 24, 2019, 07:08:31 PM
Post by: team filler on May 24, 2019, 07:09:46 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 24, 2019, 07:15:25 PM
Post by: Kara on May 24, 2019, 07:18:33 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 24, 2019, 07:21:59 PM
Post by: agrajag on May 24, 2019, 07:29:31 PM
:rejoice
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on May 24, 2019, 07:37:15 PM
I don't even think a Dawkins type would say religion.of course they would
Post by: Kara on May 24, 2019, 08:08:04 PM
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Post by: BisMarckie on May 24, 2019, 08:16:12 PM
I need a PUA myself. Picture Upload Assistant :rodney
Post by: team filler on May 24, 2019, 08:17:19 PM
Post by: BisMarckie on May 24, 2019, 08:29:46 PM
(https://cdn.datingskillsreview.com/photos/original/11/23/59/1347_mehowpua_1317905893.png)
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Trademark Advice
PureKino - this is Mehow's own approach to attraction. According to him, all you need to attract a woman is influential kinesthetics. Composing of verbal prowess (words) and a lot of touching (kino).
Value Velocity - this is a concept that Mehow developed based on his own experience. It states that as long as the topic you are talking to a woman with has value, it would take less than 10 seconds for attraction to set in.
Solo winging - Mehow firmly believes that though having a wingman can sometimes be valuable, solo winging can get you much better results.
The Microloop
The Microloop is not even explained, I bet it‘s amazing. :maf
Pretty nice of him to explain that verbal=words.
Post by: benjipwns on May 24, 2019, 08:46:29 PM
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Solo Game:mindblown
AKA Solo Sarging, Solo Winging Quick Definition: When a PUA is out and picking up girls by himself, without any friends…
Post by: Kara on May 24, 2019, 08:50:17 PM
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Value Velocity - this is a concept that Mehow developed based on his own experience. It states that as long as the topic you are talking to a woman with has value, it would take less than 10 seconds for attraction to set in
-Greater Serbia
-labor theory of value
-Taco Bell
Post by: BisMarckie on May 24, 2019, 10:13:16 PM
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Concepts and theories taught by Adam include:
Entourage game in which being surrounded by many beautiful women will make you appear attractive and, in turn, allow you to attract other desirable women.
One way which Adam explains attraction is by using this formula which represents events leading to someone being attracted to you if they had not been at first site:
(C-R) + Q + S = A
C = Comfort
R = Rapport
Q = Qualification
S = Sexual Escalation
A = Attraction
1. How do I get an entourage?
2. :neo
Post by: benjipwns on May 24, 2019, 10:51:48 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 25, 2019, 02:16:51 AM
now i'm starting to wonder if it's his daughter getting HIM into full-on white supremacy :thinking
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 25, 2019, 02:58:15 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/2OlkUM8.png)
It looks like the optical illusion that’s an old lady when you look at it from one direction but a young girl when you look at it from another.
Post by: benjipwns on May 25, 2019, 03:04:24 AM
(https://i1.wp.com/upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Philippe2%2BArthur.jpg/1280px-Philippe2%2BArthur.jpg?resize=590%2C306&ssl=1)(https://i2.wp.com/upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/Philippe2%2BJean1%2Bpaix.jpg?resize=444%2C458&ssl=1)
Post by: Kara on May 25, 2019, 03:30:34 AM
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If you've been following my work for a while, you'll notice I've been warning up to faith in God over the years, especially the past year. This is due to witnessing the growth of evil in society, my personal experiences with unbridled hedonism, and my sister's death. This reached a climax when I received a message while on mushrooms which cemented that faith further, an experience which I will share in the future after I'm done processing it.
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Many comments from men said how the black pill was a gateway to the God pill. There seems to be a progression:
Blue pill: Ignorance, denial of nature
Red pill: Truth through materialism (muscles, women, money, status)
Black pill: Acceptance of one's powerlessness, withdrawal from materialist society
God pill: Submission to God's will
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The God pill does feel like the final destination, where life becomes about asking Him for help and performing His will in a way that embraces good.
(https://i.imgur.com/d2yl2qA.jpg)
I had a clip of his show playing while reading this and he went on some weird digression about "Jewish masters." He's really leaning into this traditional Christianity thing now! #JudeoEgyptianValues
Post by: benjipwns on May 25, 2019, 03:54:23 AM
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Many comments from men said how the black pill was a gateway to the God pill. There seems to be a progression:The Interdimensional PILLar: Trigger the Awakening NOW!
Blue pill: Ignorance, denial of nature
Red pill: Truth through materialism (muscles, women, money, status)
Black pill: Acceptance of one's powerlessness, withdrawal from materialist society
God pill: Submission to God's will
Post by: benjipwns on May 25, 2019, 05:44:51 AM
:dead
Post by: Nintex on May 25, 2019, 05:47:24 AM
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The history of the modern world:rejoice
1990 - 1999: Green pill: No worries now, only Super Nintendo, Pokemon and LEGO
1999 - 2002: Blue pill: Ignorance, denial of nature, Sonic Adventure + Sonic Adventure 2
2003 - 2015: Yellow pill: Be very afraid, war, death, destruction, terrorism, social media, Gears of War
2015 - 2017: Red pill: Truth through materialism (muscles, women, money, status), TRUMP
2017 - 2018: Black pill: Acceptance of one's powerlessness, withdrawal from materialist society
2019 - 2024: cLoWn WoRlD, end of hope, degeneracy, false nostalgia, B E A S T M O D E
2024 - 2030: MACHINE WORLD, New World Order Deluxe, end of love, end of music, breed machines
2031 - 20XX: rebellion, cilmate meltdown, interdimensional travel, ENLIGHTMENT
Post by: toku on May 25, 2019, 07:44:40 AM
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 25, 2019, 08:29:03 AM
https://twitter.com/MisterAntiBully/status/1131700041184358405
:dead
Is that Nintex?
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 25, 2019, 11:41:59 AM
Post by: agrajag on May 25, 2019, 04:55:41 PM
Post by: Oblivion on May 25, 2019, 07:27:29 PM
Post by: Kara on May 26, 2019, 01:37:08 PM
:lol
Post by: benjipwns on May 26, 2019, 04:17:53 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 26, 2019, 05:34:36 PM
:gbcry
Post by: Oblivion on May 26, 2019, 05:37:11 PM
Too lazy to look this up, but I'd drop a fiver on Sam Harris condoning actual assassinations in the so-called War on Terror, either outright or through some tedious argument about exigent circumstances demanding situational morals.Pretty sure he views them as a (regrettable?) necessity. I'm extrapolating from his views/justification of torture.QuoteThe only way to rule out collateral damage would be to refuse to fight wars under any circumstances. As a foreign policy, this would leave us with something like the absolute pacifism of Gandhi. While pacifism in this form can constitute a direct confrontation with injustice (and requires considerable bravery), it is only applicable to a limited range of human conflicts. Where it is not applicable, it is seems flagrantly immoral. We would do well to reflect on Gandhi’s remedy for the Holocaust: he believed that the Jews should have committed mass suicide, because this “would have aroused the world and the people of Germany to Hitler’s violence.” We might wonder what a world full of pacifists would have done once it had grown “aroused”—commit suicide as well? There seems no question that if all the good people in the world adopted Gandhi’s ethics, the thugs would inherit the earth.https://samharris.org/in-defense-of-torture/
So we can now ask, if we are willing to act in a way that guarantees the misery and death of some considerable number of innocent children, why spare the rod with known terrorists?
Okay, so I've heard about that piece Sam wrote for years and a couple of times in the past, I kind of skimmed it and lost interest after a while. But now's the first time I've read it all the way through because I legitimately wanted to see what the hell Sam was trying to say. Especially considering like his buddy, Daddy P, he consistently bitches about people supposedly taking him "out of context (tm)".
So now I've read the whole thing and...I'm still not sure what the fuck he's bitching about. I could be bad at reading and analysis (and sadly I HAVE been many times in the past), but I'm not seeing anything in the piece that goes against the impression that nearly all of his critics had on that piece. Just as the title says, it's LITERALLY A DEFENSE FOR TORTURE. He provides numerous examples throughout where there would be situations where torture would be appropriate, complains about a double standard on how we don't have as much a problem with civilian casualties, and even goes on to say that in certain instances, torture is actually morally more righteous than other atrocities.
I mean, all he says against the idea of torture is just spending a few sentences throughout the entire piece saying it's wrong, and if we didn't have to do it, he'd be happy. But that's not really saying....anything. He's basically saying "Torture is definitely bad and reprehensible, but with that being said, here's a 2,000 word argument on why it might actually be good and we should do it."
Maybe some of the smarter people here can tell me what I'm misinterpreting.
Post by: agrajag on May 26, 2019, 07:46:34 PM
:crowdlaff
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 26, 2019, 08:15:14 PM
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1132633216135958528
:lol
I was hoping to make the list this week. :(
Post by: Kara on May 26, 2019, 08:41:10 PM
I mean, all he says against the idea of torture is just spending a few sentences throughout the entire piece saying it's wrong, and if we didn't have to do it, he'd be happy. But that's not really saying....anything. He's basically saying "Torture is definitely bad and reprehensible, but with that being said, here's a 2,000 word argument on why it might actually be good and we should do it."
Maybe some of the smarter people here can tell me what I'm misinterpreting.
There's a reason I wrote, "or through some tedious argument about exigent circumstances demanding situational morals." You've arrived at it, more or less.
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on May 26, 2019, 09:24:37 PM
There’s a nice little optional moment of moral aggrandizement for people who want to make the above rhetorical moves. When you think that you can nobly exercise extrajudicial means, you then might start to think that it’s the very maintaining of a dispassionate distance which legitimizes violence -‘civilization’ understood as feeling bad about wielding the biggest stick. At this point you can opt-in and claim that your (read: imperial) position strikes an aesthetic note, tragic because necessary. It plays pretty well with Burkean longings for foreign bellicosity in the name of adventure and national renewal. What I really mean to say is that Benjamin was right and Batman was a fucking fascist.
Post by: Oblivion on May 27, 2019, 04:30:10 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 27, 2019, 10:56:59 PM
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Post by: agrajag on May 28, 2019, 07:58:16 PM
Post by: team filler on May 28, 2019, 08:19:27 PM
Post by: Oblivion on May 28, 2019, 11:40:15 PM
https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1133563621257240577
Post by: benjipwns on May 29, 2019, 01:20:08 PM
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Americans are losing interest in the Civil War—or at least they are losing interest in learning about it and visiting historic battle sites. The Wall Street Journal reported recently that the country’s “five major Civil War battlefield parks—Gettysburg, Antietam, Shiloh, Chickamauga/Chattanooga, and Vicksburg—had a combined 3.1 million visitors in 2018, down from about 10.2 million in 1970.” Gettysburg, America’s most famous and hallowed battlefield, drew fewer than a million visitors last year, and just 14 percent of the visitor total in 1970.
In addition to fewer tourists, the number of Civil War re-enactors is also declining. Many are growing old, and younger men are not stepping in to replenish their ranks. As one 68-year-old re-enactor, who recently helped organize a recreation of the Battle of Resaca in Georgia, told the Journal, “The younger generations are not taught to respect history, and they lose interest in it.”
But it’s not just that young people are not taught to respect history. They are often not taught history at all. To the extent they are, they are told that American history is a parade of horribles: slavery, genocide, bigotry, greed—a story above all of injustice and oppression, perpetrated by the powerful against the weak.
No wonder then, that recent public interest in the Civil War has mostly taken the form of a push to remove Confederate monuments from public places and rename buildings and roads bearing the names of Confederate leaders. We hear much about removing and renaming these days, but almost nothing about building more and better monuments, or reinvigorating public interest and education about the war.
Post by: benjipwns on May 29, 2019, 01:47:09 PM
:rejoice
Post by: Kara on May 29, 2019, 01:55:57 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 29, 2019, 02:06:38 PM
lol
Post by: benjipwns on May 29, 2019, 03:49:43 PM
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New Liberal tears gun oil traps the carbonwow, no thanks commies :donot
Post by: BisMarckie on May 29, 2019, 03:51:38 PM
Years and years and years of shitting on Billy Beanbrain in MLB threads vindicated. :rejoice
Tired: Billy Beane is really smart because he invented moneyball. :larry
Wired: Billy Beane just aped shit he read from Bill James and piggybacked Sandy Alderson. :ohhh
Galaxy brain: He had three generational starting pitchers and several players that were roided out of their mind. :rollsafe
Still no WS title. :sabu
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 29, 2019, 07:12:54 PM
Post by: Nintex on May 30, 2019, 01:14:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqkkfBAPyNMThis is like tripping into the lair of a Bond villain and he starts to lay out his plans. :doge
:rejoice
Post by: Rufus on May 30, 2019, 05:59:15 PM
https://twitter.com/curaffairs/status/1133867163956199424Some of the pieces he links to are :whoo
https://www.jasonhickel.org/blog/2019/2/3/pinker-and-global-poverty
https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2003/05/01/the-blank-slate-an-exchange/
Post by: benjipwns on May 31, 2019, 01:21:39 AM
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Post by: benjipwns on June 01, 2019, 09:45:50 PM
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Prime Minister Viktor Orbán on Thursday met Canadian political scientist and psychologist Jordan Peterson in Budapest to discuss current political issues, the prime minister’s press cheif told MTI on Thursday.
Peterson, who teaches clinical psychology at the university of Toronto, and Orbán agreed that illegal migration was “unnecessary and dangerous”, and talked of political correctness, which they said made “sensible public discussions impossible”, Bertalan Havasi said. Political correctness is the “invention of a small, ideologically driven group,” they said.
Peterson and Orbán also touched on a current tendency to “minimise” the crimes committed under Communist regimes. They cited an “infamous” speech by European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker, in which they said he “defended Karl Marx”, Havasi said.
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 01, 2019, 10:22:48 PM
https://hungarytoday.hu/orban-meets-jordan-peterson-in-budapest/QuotePeterson and Orbán also touched on a current tendency to “minimise” the crimes committed under Communist regimes. They cited an “infamous” speech by European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker, in which they said he “defended Karl Marx”, Havasi said.
Karl Marx, widely known as the most notorious of all communist dictators.
Post by: benjipwns on June 01, 2019, 10:26:44 PM
Post by: toku on June 01, 2019, 10:47:33 PM
https://twitter.com/LizardRumsfeld/status/1134537636159393792
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Post by: Leadbelly on June 03, 2019, 08:54:40 PM
I've been in 20XX
20XX is the politically correct year.
Post by: Rufus on June 03, 2019, 11:50:45 PM
Post by: agrajag on June 05, 2019, 09:08:51 PM
time to start calling him Steve Chowder
Post by: agrajag on June 05, 2019, 09:44:45 PM
https://twitter.com/bstalkerbynatur/status/1136383887490334721
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 05, 2019, 10:05:12 PM
fall back nerds!
https://twitter.com/bstalkerbynatur/status/1136383887490334721
Leave Carlos Mencia alone, you twats. :maf
Post by: benjipwns on June 06, 2019, 01:22:37 AM
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Former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon’s plans for a far-right nationalist school have been halted by Italian authorities. Bannon hoped to run the school out of an ancient monastery near Rome, but officials say they are revoking rights to the grounds for failure to maintain the site and pay fees.
In a statement released Friday, Gianluca Vacca, an official with Italy’s cultural ministry, said that it was the government’s “duty” to revoke the rights to the Certosa de Trisulti monastery that the Human Dignity Institute, a far-right Catholic think tank Bannon partnered with, had obtained. Vacca cited the fact the group failed to pay proper concessions and said it was determined that the institute did not have any experience in cultural heritage custodianship. The ministry also voiced concerns that repairs had not begun that would make the historic property available for public use.
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Bannon, who once served as President Trump’s chief strategist, had hoped to train mid-career students “looking to do something different” in the rhetoric and strategy of far-right nationalism at the school. He promised the monastery would become a “gladiator school” and planned to call it the “Academy for the Judeo-Christian West.”
In response to the Italian government’s statement, Bannon signaled that he is not ready to give up on his dream of opening the school and said, “The fight for Trisulti is a microcosm of the fight for the Judeo-Christian West.”
Further complicating Bannon’s plan is the assertion by Italian authorities that a bank document the Human Dignity Institute submitted in acquiring rights to use the monastery had been forged.
Post by: benjipwns on June 06, 2019, 07:02:48 AM
Post by: benjipwns on June 06, 2019, 07:07:23 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/IpmXnvu.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/NGiZpE3.png)
just like Big Bill Haywood would have wanted
Post by: BisMarckie on June 06, 2019, 07:33:06 AM
Post by: agrajag on June 06, 2019, 09:17:12 AM
Post by: agrajag on June 06, 2019, 09:21:58 AM
Quote from: Joe Rogan
Is right to dunk on someone with cognitive limitations or for their lack of intelligence? Like Sam Seder dunks on Dave Rubin all the time.
:dead
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 06, 2019, 09:38:54 AM
Post by: Kara on June 06, 2019, 04:25:52 PM
https://hungarytoday.hu/orban-meets-jordan-peterson-in-budapest/QuotePrime Minister Viktor Orbán on Thursday met Canadian political scientist and psychologist Jordan Peterson in Budapest to discuss current political issues, the prime minister’s press cheif told MTI on Thursday.
Peterson, who teaches clinical psychology at the university of Toronto, and Orbán agreed that illegal migration was “unnecessary and dangerous”, and talked of political correctness, which they said made “sensible public discussions impossible”, Bertalan Havasi said. Political correctness is the “invention of a small, ideologically driven group,” they said.
Peterson and Orbán also touched on a current tendency to “minimise” the crimes committed under Communist regimes. They cited an “infamous” speech by European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker, in which they said he “defended Karl Marx”, Havasi said.
do y'all think the Hungarian Assimilate who's returned to Hungary after years of taking shelter in a Western nation pretended to be committed to social liberalism and fiscal responsibility before voting fash and strenuously defending not just the vote itself but the fash as well or is it more likely that he's always been a Fidesz guy. I imagine Turkish Assimilate was always down with Justice and Development, for example.
Post by: Mandark on June 06, 2019, 04:29:20 PM
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Or a WH40K character, if that universe has a Hungary.
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Post by: Mandark on June 06, 2019, 10:14:08 PM
Post by: Kara on June 06, 2019, 11:16:36 PM
I don't know if you're talking about a hypothetical person, a poster, or a public figure.spoiler (click to show/hide)Or a WH40K character, if that universe has a Hungary.[close]
Just a thought experiment about former forums poster Assimilate!
Post by: bluemax on June 07, 2019, 02:45:32 AM
Post by: Oblivion on June 07, 2019, 07:07:41 AM
The Vox guys are on strike again today.
Why? I thought they got what they wanted?
Post by: Brehvolution on June 07, 2019, 08:48:49 AM
All that conservative money out there and they rely on youtube and twitter. Some are so toxic gab doesn't even want them. :neogaf
Be a human piece of shit, brehs.
Post by: VomKriege on June 07, 2019, 10:28:26 AM
I don't know if you're talking about a hypothetical person, a poster, or a public figure.spoiler (click to show/hide)Or a WH40K character, if that universe has a Hungary.[close]
Just a thought experiment about former forums poster Assimilate!
I dunno if it was Kara's intent but Orban himself apparently was considered, post-Berlin Wall, as the exemple of a properly educated Europhile liberal (I heard a former diplomat mentioning that on a radio show).
Post by: Kara on June 07, 2019, 11:56:25 AM
Unlike liberals though I would draw a line from today (albeit not a particularly thick, straight one) to the collaboration of Hungarian liberals with the Habsburg state in the late 19th century.
Post by: Kara on June 07, 2019, 01:38:28 PM
:lol
Post by: agrajag on June 07, 2019, 01:46:24 PM
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Post by: Kara on June 07, 2019, 02:21:55 PM
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KKKontrarian KKKorner? :letsfukk
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A visit to Wikipedia will tell you that the missionary position is a bad idea for losing your virginity. “You cannot do anything but lay [sic] there and take it.” This echoes Beauvoir herself: “It is he who has the aggressive role and she who submits to his embrace.”
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Largely because of the ubiquity of pornography, more and more initial sexual encounters involve things that are commonplace online, but less common for us everyday folks.
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I am not against people having casual sex. This isn’t an essay on prudery or on morals. I am against people having bad sex. Perhaps it is more accurate to say I find something immoral in having unhappy, joyless sex.
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Our erotic nature is the very foundation of human civilization, which is grounded in the bonds of affection and mutual care that result from the promptings of our sexual instincts combined with deeper emotions of love, self-giving, esteem, and friendship.
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For a woman, this means abandoning herself to her desires. This is complex for women because the deepest female desire is for a man to see her as the object of his desire; she desires to be desired.
Post by: Kara on June 07, 2019, 02:40:20 PM
However the author seems to have forgotten this is Quillette so the comments section is rife with people talking about men liking emotionally unfulfilling sex because bio truths.
In conclusion, Libya is a land of contrasts.
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 07, 2019, 02:48:01 PM
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"reat"
Post by: VomKriege on June 07, 2019, 02:48:04 PM
Eh, I guess that's technically true but the party's rightward trajectory starts so soon from the end of the revolution that I'm generally of the opinion that the "liberal warrior to autocrat" story is more of a liberal myth than reasonable analysis.
Unlike liberals though I would draw a line from today (albeit not a particularly thick, straight one) to the collaboration of Hungarian liberals with the Habsburg state in the late 19th century.
Wouldn't be the first time Western Europe diplomats has too optimistic appraisals of foreign intermediaries.
Post by: agrajag on June 07, 2019, 02:51:26 PM
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"reat"
I am so tired of you bullying my cognitive deficiencies.
Post by: Crash Dummy on June 07, 2019, 02:53:31 PM
So the central "argument" of the essay is something to the effect of: humans prefer emotionally fulfilling sex, missionary is emotionally fulfilling because you can make eye contact, therefore missionary is good.only read the bits you quoted above but does the writer not make a connection between putting all this emphasis and importance on (missionary) sex and the "immorality" of joyless sex? or the occurrence of it?
However the author seems to have forgotten this is Quillette so the comments section is rife with people talking about men liking emotionally unfulfilling sex because bio truths.
In conclusion, Libya is a land of contrasts.
Post by: Kara on June 07, 2019, 03:49:26 PM
As for the connection, I read it as the archetypal conservative "I'm just arguing we should live in accordance with our nature" position instead of a plea to live more moral lives.
Post by: Oblivion on June 07, 2019, 06:48:40 PM
Does that make ME lame? :patel
Post by: agrajag on June 08, 2019, 12:45:28 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 08, 2019, 01:05:08 AM
Post by: Crash Dummy on June 08, 2019, 04:39:11 AM
She connects the generational decline in sex with people having more unfulfilling sex, an argument that was advanced in another article published by The Atlantic which she linked to in hers. I'm not sure if that's what you meant by "occurrence" though.i have a flu so not thinking clearly but all i could think of was lacan and objet petit a when i read your first post, feel free to ignore my ramblings since at best they're just word associations
As for the connection, I read it as the archetypal conservative "I'm just arguing we should live in accordance with our nature" position instead of a plea to live more moral lives.
Post by: Leadbelly on June 08, 2019, 01:01:09 PM
is Glenn like a regular host on Tucker now?
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1136810376237146112
I was a fan of Glenn Greenwald during the whole NRA scandal. Before then actually. However, my opinion of him changed for a number of reasons, though mainly his attacks on certain people critical of Islam. I have to say though, I am liking him a lot more these days. Although, I am not sure his views have shifted that much, it's just that I am reminded of certain aspects of his personality that made me gravitate towards him in the first place.
Post by: Mandark on June 09, 2019, 03:58:09 AM
edit: my streak of never reading an actual Quillette article is quickly becoming a matter of personal principle, like my streak of never having seen a full episode of Friends.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 09, 2019, 04:38:27 AM
Post by: BisMarckie on June 09, 2019, 11:59:07 AM
I am not a Wank Dad expert, I have no clue what this means.
Post by: Mandark on June 09, 2019, 12:30:38 PM
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Or sometimes actually not grokking it I guess? It's like Poe's Law for :doge
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Post by: agrajag on June 09, 2019, 12:37:01 PM
Comedian Bill Maher getting made into a giant dad by a librul congresswoman.
:delicious
Post by: benjipwns on June 10, 2019, 02:20:38 AM
:deadhttps://twitter.com/drmistercody/status/1137545813641449475
https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1137545119786254336
https://twitter.com/Mike_Hfuhruhurr/status/1137553464299577344
Post by: benjipwns on June 10, 2019, 02:31:00 AM
https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1137774316785983489
https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1137350419812900865
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https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1137331013179400200
https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1136976376282660864
https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1136970776761032704
https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1136976376282660864
https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1136970776761032704
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Post by: Kara on June 10, 2019, 06:31:43 PM
i have a flu so not thinking clearly but all i could think of was lacan and objet petit a when i read your first post, feel free to ignore my ramblings since at best they're just word associations
Lacan once said 'the very foundation of interhuman discourse is misunderstanding.' What the hell is that supposed to mean you French moron.
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Not my joke but the original one has a slur in it so I'm not going to post it here and instead perpetuate ableist terminology.
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A better case for missionary is that in evolutionary terms it's pretty kinky. Bonobos are the only other mammals to do it that way, which is a pretty strong implicit endorsement.
The author talks about this, though it's not framed as such of course. I am pro-Mandark and take no pleasure in reporting this.
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Louise Mensch
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Post by: toku on June 10, 2019, 06:34:52 PM
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:-\
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Post by: Rufus on June 10, 2019, 07:21:14 PM
Post by: Brehvolution on June 11, 2019, 09:06:52 AM
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If they get taken to court.
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Post by: agrajag on June 11, 2019, 03:02:20 PM
Post by: Mandark on June 11, 2019, 03:23:31 PM
Post by: agrajag on June 11, 2019, 03:32:29 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2019, 04:06:58 PM
Plot twist: Brett Weinstein was Etiolate the whole time
Well if I'd known that, I wouldn't have had to sign up for both Patreons.
Post by: Brehvolution on June 11, 2019, 04:10:51 PM
Or maybe they are coming for their own dignity and rights. :thinking
Post by: Kara on June 11, 2019, 11:54:49 PM
Post by: benjipwns on June 12, 2019, 12:32:07 AM
Post by: benjipwns on June 12, 2019, 12:36:14 AM
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1137376495964434432Some of the anger I saw was that for their print front page collage they just tossed up a whole bunch of YouTubers, some of whom are not alt-right or even reg-right, along with the typical Sargon, Dave Rubin, Molyneux, etc. But who reads print editions?!?
This one seems to have the dank wads mad as hell. I'll read through later.
The main character of the story, Caleb Cain, doesn't actually seem to have been radicalized at all either or even openly political. I did see some dank wads suggesting he was a plant. (I prefer the version where he's a plant, not to make them look bad, but to make the NYT look bad for being so willing to wantonly publish anything he said.)
Post by: Mandark on June 12, 2019, 03:17:53 PM
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The only other major rule on comments he mentioned was that they need to be thoughtful. Rather than suggesting that some opinions are “off limits,” Peterson said they will have a minimum required length so one has to put thought into what they write.
oh honey
Post by: curly on June 12, 2019, 03:23:04 PM
https://twitter.com/JackFromAtlanta/status/1138485819637927937
Don't know why but Gavin McInness as the bartender has me :dead
Post by: Oblivion on June 14, 2019, 09:16:29 PM
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1138884519669436417
Jorp creating a "more open" social media platform that compels certain kinds of speech and is in fact, more censorious than Twitter is pretty on-brand.
Post by: Nintex on June 15, 2019, 10:34:37 AM
Yikes
Post by: Oblivion on June 16, 2019, 12:03:01 AM
Rubin continues his saga of being a massive fucking loser :rofl
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 17, 2019, 01:10:04 PM
https://twitter.com/LevineJonathan/status/1131642766868582400
Post by: shosta on June 17, 2019, 01:13:59 PM
well... :hitler
Post by: Mandark on June 17, 2019, 01:17:08 PM
Truly insane that a college admissions process would take into account what someone was doing when they were 16.
Post by: Kara on June 17, 2019, 01:26:27 PM
Anyway, looking forward to the end of child execution in all 50 states now that the right is coming around on youthful indiscretion!
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 17, 2019, 01:59:43 PM
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After the shooting, Kashuv met with President Trump and Melania Trump in the White House, and made frequent appearances on Fox News.
Kashuv also took a position as the high school outreach director for young pro-Trump group Turning Point USA, becoming the group’s most famous high school member and a prominent figure at its conferences. Kashuv often appeared with Turning Point founder Charlie Kirk at events, but Kashuv announced last week that he was leaving Turning Point. Kashuv’s announcement came just hours before the racial screenshots became public.
lmao
Post by: shosta on June 17, 2019, 02:00:24 PM
It's one thing to say a bunch of dumb shit when you're 16, but nobodys going to buy your personal growth if what you chose to do since then was become a reactionary grifter.Is that true? I only saw some light praise of Dave Boobin.
Anyway, n-word incoming
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I saw worse in highschool :lol
...Apropos of nothing, deleting my cat rape post. And the Srebrenica take. Also the one where I advocated for the wholesale bombing of Damascus. And every Jordan Peterson post. And every instance of the phrase "deng shui". Also, every time I've said "we should kill the president". Threatening to bomb Trent Dole's house. Uhhh... what else...
Post by: Mandark on June 17, 2019, 02:34:59 PM
To Kara's point in another thread about non-leftists also eating their own.
Post by: agrajag on June 17, 2019, 03:42:01 PM
yes free speech warriors, this is a man most deserving a platform..
Post by: agrajag on June 17, 2019, 03:43:50 PM
It's one thing to say a bunch of dumb shit when you're 16, but nobodys going to buy your personal growth if what you chose to do since then was become a reactionary grifter.Is that true? I only saw some light praise of Dave Boobin.
Anyway, n-word incomingspoiler (click to show/hide)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6uzXdIWsAACxYb?format=jpg&name=large)[close]
I saw worse in highschool :lol
...Apropos of nothing, deleting my cat rape post. And the Srebrenica take. Also the one where I advocated for the wholesale bombing of Damascus. And every Jordan Peterson post. And every instance of the phrase "deng shui". Also, every time I've said "we should kill the president". Threatening to bomb Trent Dole's house. Uhhh... what else...
Shosta is still in high school?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 17, 2019, 03:45:51 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 17, 2019, 05:11:44 PM
https://m.ctpost.com/local/ctpost/article/Lawyers-Alex-Jones-sent-child-porn-to-Sandy-Hook-14005437.php
yes free speech warriors, this is a man most deserving a platform..
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Jones publicly responded on a broadcast of his show that he is being framed by Chris Mattei, the lawyer for the Sandy Hook families and went on making what Mattei and his law firm, Koskoff, Koskoff and Bieder claim are threats against them.
“You’re trying to set me up with child porn, I’ll get your ass,” Jones states on the broadcast. “One million dollars, you little gang members. One million dollars to put your head on a pike.” Jones then pounds a photograph of Mattei and goes into a rant at one point stating, “I’m gonna kill…”
Jones’ lawyer, Norman Pattis, denied his client was threatening Mattei or the Sandy Hook families and urged people to watch the broadcast for themselves.
:heh
Post by: agrajag on June 17, 2019, 09:57:23 PM
Post by: shosta on June 18, 2019, 11:57:46 PM
benji, explain?
Post by: Brehvolution on June 19, 2019, 09:59:20 AM
https://twitter.com/PrettyBadLefty/status/1140786699942932480
I can't find it right now, but a similar tweet was:
Conservatives: Using words said by a 16 year old against them is a form of fascism.
Also conservatives: A 16 year old pregnant girl has to live with that mistake forever.
Post by: agrajag on June 21, 2019, 01:58:55 AM
Post by: Rufus on June 22, 2019, 02:23:30 PM
Post by: agrajag on June 22, 2019, 02:33:18 PM
Post by: agrajag on June 23, 2019, 01:39:50 PM
Post by: Kara on June 24, 2019, 12:29:40 AM
https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/1142305758861770753
Post by: BIONIC on June 24, 2019, 01:12:30 AM
aspiring wank dad but still :dead
https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/1142305758861770753
Why settle for a Mennonite waifu when you can have this?
(https://melchettmike.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/niqab4.jpg)
Fucking amateur ::)
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 24, 2019, 09:13:12 AM
aspiring wank dad but still :dead
https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/1142305758861770753
look at this hussy showing off her shameful nose skin
Post by: BIONIC on June 24, 2019, 09:31:25 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 24, 2019, 10:08:19 AM
Post by: agrajag on June 24, 2019, 05:32:51 PM
thank you Alex
Post by: Brehvolution on June 25, 2019, 09:27:01 AM
Post by: agrajag on June 25, 2019, 01:14:09 PM
Post by: Brehvolution on June 25, 2019, 01:40:43 PM
Post by: agrajag on June 26, 2019, 02:14:08 AM
Post by: agrajag on July 02, 2019, 02:34:40 PM
:derp
https://twitter.com/EyesOnTheRight/status/1146100072859537408
Post by: curly on July 04, 2019, 03:05:29 PM
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Post by: shosta on July 04, 2019, 04:37:38 PM
Post by: Kara on July 04, 2019, 04:42:21 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 04, 2019, 05:06:27 PM
:rodney
Post by: BisMarckie on July 04, 2019, 10:16:25 PM
I only know about the wankdaddy of them all. Daddy P. :rejoice
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 04, 2019, 10:22:21 PM
Having no clue who any of these people are :aah
I only know about the wankdaddy of them all. Daddy P. :rejoice
The Wank Daddy Extended Universe is basically for hardcore wank nerds only. Just stick to the canonical Wank Dads and you'll be fine.
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on July 05, 2019, 05:17:36 PM
IIRC Mill is in the same boat as he spent like half his life as a loyal employee of the east india company and used similar language to justify colonialism. Something along the lines of, "all men are free to govern themselves, except for Savage races who shall be governed untilhttps://www.utilitarian.net/sidgwick/about/200703--.pdfmen like me tell themthey are appropriately raised to a level of civilization". I think that's from On Liberty?
he was a part of the Jamaica committee following the Morant bay rebellion
Post by: team filler on July 05, 2019, 06:41:19 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 07, 2019, 10:36:04 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 07, 2019, 10:50:35 PM
benji you should listen to the podcast and report back to us
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 07, 2019, 11:13:59 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 08, 2019, 10:17:02 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 09, 2019, 02:30:09 AM
https://youtu.be/mPIcRJDqQPM
Post by: benjipwns on July 11, 2019, 02:45:50 AM
Post by: VomKriege on July 11, 2019, 04:34:39 AM
Post by: naff on July 11, 2019, 05:43:39 AM
Post by: BisMarckie on July 11, 2019, 06:58:24 AM
Oh, I thought it was Billy Mitchell for a second.
Shilling for big oil != shilling for big hot sauce. :wag
Post by: Leadbelly on July 11, 2019, 01:11:35 PM
Post by: team filler on July 11, 2019, 01:26:38 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 11, 2019, 10:11:08 PM
My dream scenario would be that jorp funds the site with millions of dollars of his own seed money, only to have it become bankrupt when it eventually gets filled to the brim with holocaust denialists and kiddie porn merchants.
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 11, 2019, 10:12:44 PM
legendary pro skateboarders :lol
Like Tony Hawk and...those other guys!
Post by: naff on July 11, 2019, 10:33:44 PM
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/simpsons/images/1/1b/Poochie_Large.png/revision/latest?cb=20180715033018)
Post by: BisMarckie on July 12, 2019, 07:25:39 AM
Post by: curly on July 15, 2019, 03:33:05 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 15, 2019, 03:47:14 PM
physical too
:hitler
Post by: agrajag on July 15, 2019, 06:38:51 PM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on July 15, 2019, 09:19:22 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 15, 2019, 09:23:21 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 15, 2019, 09:36:37 PM
:juicy
Post by: agrajag on July 16, 2019, 02:22:38 AM
:dead
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 16, 2019, 11:12:39 AM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on July 16, 2019, 07:41:43 PM
He’s anti-idpol left, so not exactly IDW tier. In league with TERFs; kvetches about everything that isn’t colorlessly class based praxis despite being one of the chief players in perpetuating the practice of treating academic positions and prestige as a system of patronage and fealty; combs the internet for people (like, not faculty, even, students) who’ve been even remotely critical of him or his blog and then goes to Twitter to cry about how much of a victim he is; and (probably) had something to do with literal shit getting mailed to a bunch of academics that all just happened to be people he had an axe to grind with.https://m.imgur.com/Lj3BaiK
Is Brian Leiter wank dad? He seems like a fucking asshole
He’s just a child and a sniveling little shit. But I’m open to the possibility of treating the Paglia’s et al. as somehow wank dad-adjacent. Like, they’re all reactionaries, right?
Post by: agrajag on July 16, 2019, 08:00:19 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 16, 2019, 08:10:11 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 16, 2019, 08:11:41 PM
Seems like Wank Dad is a uniquely Borean nomenclature, and we could really run with it. I tried googling for it, and got a bunch of results for "daddy wanking," which I am afraid to click on, but nothing for Wank Dads.
Post by: agrajag on July 16, 2019, 08:16:15 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 16, 2019, 08:32:56 PM
I just think, if we're willing to flirt with people like Zizek as Wank Dads, who certainly doesn't identify as part of the IDW, or even pals around with the IDW crowd that much, to my knowledge, then Wank Dad is a broader term than IDW-ers. I like the term Free Speech Warriors as the yang to the SJW yin myself. It works in the same way, their fight for Free Speech is a perversion, because they often seek to limit the speech/freedom of others.
Post by: agrajag on July 16, 2019, 08:59:09 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 16, 2019, 09:03:20 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 16, 2019, 09:43:04 PM
are we both siding here? :thinking
i don't think that's what esch was getting at. at least, it wasn't my reading.
to answer your previous question, i agree with esch that zizek wouldn't count as wank dad material. i would classify anyone who spends more than 50% of their free time railing against "identity politics". by this metric, everyone in the IDW counts as one. as esch said, zizek flirts with some anti-idpol stuff, but he doesn't focus on it that much, and a lot of the time he does, it feels like he's just trying to be a contrarian.
Post by: Oblivion on July 16, 2019, 09:43:31 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 16, 2019, 09:52:13 PM
are we both siding here? :thinking
i don't think that's what esch was getting at. at least, it wasn't my reading.
to answer your previous question, i agree with esch that zizek wouldn't count as wank dad material. i would classify anyone who spends more than 50% of their free time railing against "identity politics". by this metric, everyone in the IDW counts as one. as esch said, zizek flirts with some anti-idpol stuff, but he doesn't focus on it that much, and a lot of the time he does, it feels like he's just trying to be a contrarian.
he's the one that brought up Zizek as wank dad originally, not I. I am defending that noble pigman. I think we're long due for a Wank Dad expanded universe though. He fits in as one of the chaotic neutral archetypes.
Post by: agrajag on July 16, 2019, 09:56:30 PM
:bolo
Post by: curly on July 16, 2019, 09:59:06 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 16, 2019, 10:07:52 PM
also, what if I only spend 49.5% of my time railing against identity politics??
:bolo
that's fine. you're still within the confines of being a decent human being. see, the fun thing is once you past the 50% mark, it's pretty much impossible not to hover around the 70-90% mark. because nobody who complains about cultural marxism and capitalism in equal portions would have any sizeable audience of anyone who would give a shit about their opinions.
Post by: Oblivion on July 16, 2019, 10:09:22 PM
Isn't contrarianism the anti-idpol secret sauce though? At least initially. Rejecting modern sensibilities and all that.
contrarianism is part of it yeah. a big part in fact, but there are also other things that go into it.
also, what if I only spend 49.5% of my time railing against identity politics??
:bolo
that's fine. you're still within the confines of being a decent human being. see, the fun thing is once you past the 50% mark, it's pretty much impossible not to hover around the 70-90% mark. because nobody who complains about cultural marxism and capitalism in equal portions would have any sizeable audience of anyone who would give a shit about their opinions.
Has he blamed it on postmodern cultural marxism yet
not yet but give it time
Post by: agrajag on July 16, 2019, 10:14:00 PM
Post by: curly on July 16, 2019, 10:16:05 PM
Crash course of this zizek dude. I participated in this topic despite legitimately not knowing most of what Dirty P ever said outside of what I hear but I see Zizek memed a lot and I'm curious what the dude even believes.
Till I forget later, that is. But indulge me, y'all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YamAsbzPKA
Post by: agrajag on July 16, 2019, 10:16:46 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 16, 2019, 10:32:54 PM
Crash course of this zizek dude. I participated in this topic despite legitimately not knowing most of what Dirty P ever said outside of what I hear but I see Zizek memed a lot and I'm curious what the dude even believes.
Till I forget later, that is. But indulge me, y'all.
for a serious answer (i'm sure someone could give you a better one), zizek is someone who knows a lot about philosophy and marxism, calls himself a marxist but apparently is like a standard new deal style liberal. he just calls himself a marxist to make him seem more controversial than he actually is. he critiques idpol but in a more substantive, helpful, and way less disdainful way than the IDW crowd does. oh and also, he was a former raccoon living in a trashcan that got turned into a human due to an evil(?) witch's spell
Post by: agrajag on July 16, 2019, 10:34:24 PM
:uguu
Post by: benjipwns on July 16, 2019, 10:48:42 PM
Crash course of this zizek dude. I participated in this topic despite legitimately not knowing most of what Dirty P ever said outside of what I hear but I see Zizek memed a lot and I'm curious what the dude even believes.That Jacques Lacan was literally God brought to Earth.
Till I forget later, that is. But indulge me, y'all.
Post by: benjipwns on July 16, 2019, 10:55:23 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 16, 2019, 11:02:14 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 16, 2019, 11:04:03 PM
tell me more daddy, was it a swamp witch?
:uguu
it's actually the same witch that jordan peterson constructed his entire worldview of feminism on
Post by: agrajag on July 17, 2019, 12:33:48 AM
and Benji thinks there's no such thing as Big Conservative Money
:gurl
Post by: Mandark on July 17, 2019, 01:40:55 AM
i consider idpol whining the key characteristic of wank xaddy life. the anticapitalism of the movement is secondary, cultural before marxism as it were... angela nagle and paglia are def wank dad in my view. zizek flirts with it, but i think he's more of an irreverent shitposter (filler if he really loved lacan, hegel, hotdogs and blow) than someone who genuinely believes it a duty to rail against intersectional social movements and sentiment. i cant think of an example right away, but i swear ive seen a couple wank dads comment on material inequality before.
I think there are some other characteristics which distinguish the IDW phenomenon from general anti-SJW politics.
I'm too tired to be coherent right now but the short version is all wank dads are reactionaries, but not all reactionaries are wank dads.
Post by: benjipwns on July 17, 2019, 03:23:57 AM
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There is a category of lowly man
Intoxicated by his own brand
Of valiant salvation for
Those lowly outcasts, meek, cash-poor
This worm sees in minorities
A proxy for his purity
The perfect opportunity
To show his deep immunity
To any selfish, racist cause
Like enforcing domestic laws
Those can be altered as niceness dictates
Anything to root out hate!
Root out the immigrant’s opposition!
Commence the liberal inquisition!
Those redneck fools deserve to languish
The worm blames sloth for all their anguish
Heritage nation, consumed by vice!
You just need to be more nice!
The global south deigns to redeem you
Be grateful, for they generate revenue
For the masters you’ve failed to serve
Those men, the worms, who pose to conserve
Those values you have clearly lost
This is the Capitalist Pentecost
Submit to the modernist’s spirit of avarice
Defer now to the mocha-skinned Lazarus
Know this, you are more rich than him
If not in cash, then in your white skin
The worm is possessed by cool-kid perception
Considers himself a great exception
To all those evil, racist whites
Whose recalcitrance impedes his rights
To trample on their spirit more
To profit from the endless wars
And from the labor multiplied
And from the masses demoralized
Who still turn to the worm for guidance because
For America, he professes love
Not for her people (those, he hates)
They are but low-life reprobates
But for what nation she could be
If she increased her liberty
And turned her unscathed, generous face
Toward parasites that “earn their place”
And spread her ample, gentle thighs
For those who come and tribalize
And offered her abundant breast
To those who maybe pass a test
And even those who don’t, you see
Deserve a similar amnesty
For their natural state is to conserve
Just like the posture of the worm
Unscrupulous venality
A winning slave morality
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1151197719483973632
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/american-greatness-publishes-anti-cuck-poem/
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I didn’t realize that American Greatness publishes poetry until Tuesday, when they published an anti-cuck poem that, like anti-cuck prose, speaks of bizarre racial fears and fantasies best worked out with a therapist (“And spread her ample, gentle thighs / For those who come and tribalize”). The best thing that can be said for it is that the author had the sense to publish it pseudonymously. The verse is clearly aimed at David French, who is the target of racialist attacks, it’s worth remembering, because he committed the unpardonable sin of adopting a black child from Africa. For whatever reason, though, he’s not mentioned by name. Instead, in what I suppose passes for cleverness among people who publish anti-cuck poetry, David’s photo was initially the shared image for the piece on social media. And this from the publication that imagines itself an intellectually serious tribune of Trumpism.
Post by: Crash Dummy on July 17, 2019, 06:31:28 AM
pretty much; he like marx but likes french psychoanalysis and german idealism even more and knows what to say to keep in vogueCrash course of this zizek dude. I participated in this topic despite legitimately not knowing most of what Dirty P ever said outside of what I hear but I see Zizek memed a lot and I'm curious what the dude even believes.That Jacques Lacan was literally God brought to Earth.
Till I forget later, that is. But indulge me, y'all.
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 17, 2019, 11:12:36 AM
Post by: shosta on July 17, 2019, 08:56:19 PM
thanks, I hate it
Post by: Oblivion on July 17, 2019, 09:36:46 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 17, 2019, 09:40:42 PM
Post by: shosta on July 17, 2019, 10:30:04 PM
"I'm not sure every German scholar or every German politician would agree with you..."
"I don't think everyone would but I think a lot of them would."
"Well how would you explain that so many other countries over there did that as well?"
"Well that would be a whole other conversation about how the EU operates, and globalism, and a whole bunch of other things... [pause] um... yeah."
:rofl
Post by: agrajag on July 17, 2019, 10:36:20 PM
:dead
Post by: shosta on July 17, 2019, 10:38:14 PM
Post by: shosta on July 17, 2019, 11:01:02 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 17, 2019, 11:57:03 PM
Post by: Brehvolution on July 18, 2019, 10:04:37 AM
the comments are absolutely shredding rubin :rofl
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Solfu Q
Solfu Q
10 hours ago
To be fair, even a person who needs a drool bucket could probably point out how much of a dimwit dave rubin is
:dead
Post by: Nintex on July 18, 2019, 02:25:07 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 19, 2019, 01:33:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsZjlA_KG3Q
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 19, 2019, 02:09:35 AM
Marianne is totally taking over the troll vote from that hack Andrew Yang. :lol
Yang is good for pushing some important issues
Post by: shosta on July 19, 2019, 03:27:43 AM
Post by: Kara on July 19, 2019, 10:35:23 AM
Post by: Kara on July 19, 2019, 11:24:22 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 19, 2019, 02:33:08 PM
Oh yeah, the unintentionally :doge part of the Yang interview was when Virgil called the looming automation revolution "the Great Replacement" (a white genocide thing) when Yang calls it "the Great Displacement" in his book.Automation could make the Luddites look like a kindergartener outing
Post by: shosta on July 19, 2019, 02:48:42 PM
Virgil just brings a lot of wonk energy and points to the table, but his analysis ends in "....and that's why you need to vote for Bernie Sanders!" every fucking time. Matt's the only one worth saving. would listen to a Mike Duncan style solo podcast with him just ranting.I love Matt. I mean, I love them all, it's a fun podcast and I enjoy listening. But I would never recommend The Inebriated Past to anyone who wanted to learn anything about any subject. :doge
Post by: curly on July 19, 2019, 05:00:23 PM
Virgil just brings a lot of wonk energy and points to the table, but his analysis ends in "....and that's why you need to vote for Bernie Sanders!" every fucking time. Matt's the only one worth saving. would listen to a Mike Duncan style solo podcast with him just ranting.
Matt is as much of a #bernout as any of them, in the latest free ep he went on a ten minute rant about how Bernie was the only hope and Warren was a complete tool of the establishment and Virgil was the only one who called him on some of his bullshit.
Post by: Kara on July 19, 2019, 05:04:38 PM
:hitler
Post by: curly on July 19, 2019, 05:18:57 PM
BTW, idk if Virgil has heard the whispers about him, but I'm not sure he should be calling himself a piece of shit when he was in his early 20s so flippantly on air like he did in that interview.
:hitler
I saw turing police say something about that and I don't know if he's really a credible source but when you consider the history of DSA-adjacent people...
Post by: Kara on July 20, 2019, 12:23:58 AM
I saw turing police say something about that and I don't know if he's really a credible source but when you consider the history of DSA-adjacent people...
He gets fed a lot of stuff about that, generally speaking.
But in the case of Virgil he got #MeToo'd when it hit Weird Twitter.
Post by: agrajag on July 21, 2019, 10:21:45 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 21, 2019, 10:39:11 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 21, 2019, 10:40:48 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 21, 2019, 10:41:59 PM
https://twitter.com/AwwesomeAndrew/status/1153054876299120641
oh god of course eugenics fan movie blob has to make it all worse
https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1153097123463749632
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Post by: shosta on July 21, 2019, 10:51:04 PM
https://twitter.com/AbigayleDavis7/status/1153065441763500032this is not strictly a denial :doge
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 21, 2019, 11:20:33 PM
https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1152166952682577921
:badass
Post by: team filler on July 22, 2019, 01:01:59 PM
:delicious
Post by: team filler on July 22, 2019, 01:06:28 PM
Post by: El Babua on July 22, 2019, 07:48:51 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 22, 2019, 09:56:47 PM
https://twitter.com/adrianmp1/status/1152956855611809793
is my math bad or is that not how bar graphs or percentages work?
Post by: team filler on July 22, 2019, 09:57:33 PM
Post by: Kara on July 22, 2019, 10:05:58 PM
Post by: team filler on July 22, 2019, 10:07:49 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 22, 2019, 11:01:29 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 23, 2019, 12:29:38 PM
https://twitter.com/Ad_Inifinitum/status/1153702343277514752
Post by: shosta on July 23, 2019, 12:41:49 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 23, 2019, 12:46:36 PM
Post by: Kara on July 23, 2019, 12:48:30 PM
Benji's real Twitter is just a bunch of lame jokes he wrote between 2014 and 2017 that got no likes :heh
That's my Twitter. :fbm
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Except 2009 to 2017. :donot
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Post by: shosta on July 23, 2019, 12:49:49 PM
Post by: shosta on July 23, 2019, 12:51:32 PM
wait, are you that tax man guy or whatever? I was trying to figure out which bore member it was. I thought the content was pretty smart, like recursivelyenumerable tier. :heartbeatBenji's real Twitter is just a bunch of lame jokes he wrote between 2014 and 2017 that got no likes :heh
That's my Twitter. :fbmspoiler (click to show/hide)Except 2009 to 2017. :donot[close]
Post by: Rufus on July 23, 2019, 12:51:39 PM
I used the benjipwnsian method of just looking up the handle he uses everywhere (https://mobile.twitter.com/benjipwns?lang=en)https://twitter.com/benjipwns/status/318552795873701888
Post by: Kara on July 23, 2019, 12:56:50 PM
wait, are you that tax man guy or whatever? I was trying to figure out which bore member it was. I thought the content was pretty smart, like recursivelyenumerable tier. :heartbeat
That's not me but I did suggest that they use that handle. (Assuming we're talking about the same person.)
Post by: Kara on July 23, 2019, 12:58:29 PM
:usacry :usacry :usacry
Post by: shosta on July 23, 2019, 01:02:28 PM
I wonder how Benji is going to feel when he wakes up, drenched in sweat, and finds out he's the wank dad du jour...
Post by: Kara on July 23, 2019, 01:09:50 PM
Post by: BisMarckie on July 23, 2019, 01:14:02 PM
Post by: BIONIC on July 23, 2019, 01:35:44 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 23, 2019, 10:56:42 PM
Benji's real Twitter is just a bunch of lame jokes he wrote between 2014 and 2017 that got no likes :hehNobody else will realize you specifically used the time period in which I had no tweets except the one to messofanego but I did.
All my tweets had thousands of likes but people took them away obviously over the last six years. Especially as their accounts were vaporized.
Look at the one time I had a tweet thread, it's not even setup as an actual thread because that kind of functionality didn't exist at the time:
https://twitter.com/benjipwns/status/50381444614328320
https://twitter.com/benjipwns/status/50381800136118273
https://twitter.com/benjipwns/status/50382227133054976
Check out this sweet ass link that still works that I tweeted about in 2010: https://comicsalliance.com/the-30-most-amazingly-terrible-vhs-boxes-of-all-time/
Speaking of possible Wank Dad content, check out this hot IMAO tweet I retweeted that once was popular but now actually has degraded to one like and 18 legacy retweets:
https://twitter.com/IMAO_/status/328826869522435
Lame jokes? :wag
https://twitter.com/benjipwns/status/21006479094
https://twitter.com/benjipwns/status/16995088873
https://twitter.com/benjipwns/status/15476517978
Also can our Germans help:
https://twitter.com/benjipwns/status/11499891574
I should absolutely delete these tweets from 2010 where I halfheartedly argued with people I knew about politics, especially since two of them no longer have accounts and it looks like I'm arguing with Twitter writ large instead. Also I'm stupid.
Post by: benjipwns on July 23, 2019, 11:02:12 PM
send her stost
Post by: shosta on July 23, 2019, 11:02:24 PM
Nobody else will realize you specifically used the time period in which I had no tweets except the one to messofanego but I did.I love that I've succeeded in driving you into such a rabid paranoia over any of my actions that even when I do things by accident you find a hidden meaning. :hans1
Post by: benjipwns on July 23, 2019, 11:06:56 PM
Post by: Kara on July 23, 2019, 11:08:49 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 23, 2019, 11:10:00 PM
Post by: Kara on July 23, 2019, 11:13:34 PM
Post by: shosta on July 23, 2019, 11:15:12 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 23, 2019, 11:15:23 PM
Yeah, he seems like a blocker.
I'm a serial muter 8)
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 23, 2019, 11:15:44 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 23, 2019, 11:19:07 PM
unless like it's a PR account for a fast food franchise or something
it's prolly like that crack in the microwave guy said, now you can't even call stost a bitch
Even I delete YouTube comments and the only person I muted on Twitter was an old friend who turned into a white nationalist and can probably dox me so I can't unfollow or block.I reply to people who ask questions on my stupid YouTube videos :doge
Post by: Kara on July 23, 2019, 11:19:28 PM
Yeah, he seems like a blocker.
I'm a serial muter 8)
Better way to go imo. Well aside from the serial muting, we're all liberals here who can agree about the importance of free speech. :doge
Post by: benjipwns on July 23, 2019, 11:21:42 PM
reminds me that:
You work on that string of YouTube comments, I'm going to see if we can get your post in the politics thread submitted to Quillette .you can let them know I've been published on multiple popular websites by being the first and only person to upload a clip from Parks and Rec for a long time that's never been copyright struck
Post by: Kara on July 23, 2019, 11:23:57 PM
A former Labour MP also gave a cheeky reply when I asked how anyone couldn't have voted for them in the ConDem election.
Old Twitter was great.
Post by: Kara on July 23, 2019, 11:25:33 PM
telling some dope that my Parks and Rec clip that has a million views is from Parks and Rec makes me feel like anadultboomer using the internet :doge
I do silly one sentence descriptions for my videos and sometimes people don't get that they're silly.
Still proud of "Most unheard song on Armenian radio."
Post by: benjipwns on July 23, 2019, 11:27:11 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
also a long long long time ago i had an obscure rarely updated personal blog more about tinkering with the software on a subdomain of a subdomain of a video game related website and did the same exact thing with some other stupid column that made no sense and the writer posted like ten comments angry at me after he posted a big long reply and i said essentially whatever the 2001 version of "lol calm down" was :doge
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Post by: agrajag on July 23, 2019, 11:35:53 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 23, 2019, 11:40:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqVaNSzEgEw
why does this fifteen year old clip seem like it's from 1985 or something? but this was only uploaded six years ago, not earlier? what's with the tracking on this wtf?
why is this like the only contemporary clip on youtubes about this too instead of about the movie or interviewing Rather now
i remember one where they show a bunch of a footage of a handwriting expert for like five minutes, then the dude says "well, i can't tell who it is or not" and Rather just sorta stares at him
Post by: Mandark on July 23, 2019, 11:42:49 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)also a long long long time ago i had an obscure rarely updated personal blog more about tinkering with the software on a subdomain of a subdomain of a video game related website and did the same exact thing with some other stupid column that made no sense and the writer posted like ten comments angry at me after he posted a big long reply and i said essentially whatever the 2001 version of "lol calm down" was :doge[close]
i basically just dunked on his extreme Whig view of history
I always read these stories as you being an unreliable narrator.
Post by: benjipwns on July 23, 2019, 11:46:28 PM
Post by: shosta on July 23, 2019, 11:47:00 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 23, 2019, 11:50:32 PM
Post by: Mandark on July 23, 2019, 11:51:11 PM
mandark, how do you remember all of the things you've ever said to benjamin pwns
How do you remember all of your greatest hits like that without writing them down somewhere
You really don't need to worry about this sort of stuff until you have some good posts.
Post by: benjipwns on July 23, 2019, 11:56:14 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 24, 2019, 12:01:43 AM
I made a lot of bad mistakes on the internet in the early part of the 21st century, once I posted a comment on a student newspaper opinion column about how W. Bush was protecting us and the editor asked me to write an expanded column on the point and I stupidly did using the phrase "security theater" and it's forever attached to my real name except for the fact that they've changed the website five hundred times so it's gone and you'd have to look into the print archives to find it
wow stop doxing dude
Post by: benjipwns on July 24, 2019, 12:04:33 AM
:isthis
Post by: agrajag on July 24, 2019, 12:53:38 AM
Post by: agrajag on July 24, 2019, 02:00:08 AM
Post by: benjipwns on July 24, 2019, 02:10:07 AM
Post by: agrajag on July 24, 2019, 02:35:33 AM
You work on that string of YouTube comments, I'm going to see if we can get your post in the politics thread submitted to Quillette .
https://twitter.com/ma_vollmer/status/1153895918309183489
Post by: Crash Dummy on July 24, 2019, 05:30:38 AM
It's a good Mayakovsky poem. :Dayy he's the only russian poet i've ever read iirc
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 24, 2019, 12:23:28 PM
You work on that string of YouTube comments, I'm going to see if we can get your post in the politics thread submitted to Quillette .
https://twitter.com/ma_vollmer/status/1153895918309183489
(https://i.imgur.com/1apmADN.jpg)
Post by: agrajag on July 24, 2019, 01:52:13 PM
:trumps
Post by: BisMarckie on July 24, 2019, 02:02:36 PM
Post by: curly on July 24, 2019, 02:09:40 PM
Post by: BisMarckie on July 24, 2019, 02:11:50 PM
Do Germans even have noticeably broad foreheads? Can any Germans here confirm/deny?
I always thought that was a stereotype of slavic people. :trumps
Post by: curly on July 24, 2019, 02:39:18 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 24, 2019, 06:04:13 PM
https://twitter.com/amazonnews/status/1154128117960773632
Post by: agrajag on July 24, 2019, 08:23:04 PM
:rodney
https://twitter.com/TheNormalestOne/status/1154159731164033025
Post by: team filler on July 24, 2019, 08:44:37 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 24, 2019, 08:46:27 PM
more like Bozos rite
:rodney
https://twitter.com/TheNormalestOne/status/1154159731164033025
maybe pim is right, cause i don't get that meme that he's talking about. is that one a leftist made?
Post by: agrajag on July 24, 2019, 08:55:00 PM
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/bottom-text?full=1
he was too lazy to look it up and made a YouTube video about it..
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 24, 2019, 09:29:44 PM
Do Germans even have noticeably broad foreheads? Can any Germans here confirm/deny?
I always thought that was a stereotype of slavic people. :trumps
Broad foreheads appear in my family as well as in the appropriate ethnoreligious/ethnic grouping, as well as narrow foreheads.
And we're not Germanic/Slavic/Euros, far from it, so I wouldn't put stock in it.
Post by: Oblivion on July 24, 2019, 09:35:03 PM
the meme is kinda shitty, but the "bottom text" is on purpose in an ironic way
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/bottom-text?full=1
he was too lazy to look it up and made a YouTube video about it..
no, i'm aware what bottom text means. i'm confused on the meme as a whole cause it seems like it's making fun of leftists, so i don't think it's created by one?
Post by: agrajag on July 24, 2019, 09:36:42 PM
the meme is kinda shitty, but the "bottom text" is on purpose in an ironic way
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/bottom-text?full=1
he was too lazy to look it up and made a YouTube video about it..
no, i'm aware what bottom text means. i'm confused on the meme as a whole cause it seems like it's making fun of leftists, so i don't think it's created by one?
I have no idea, but he definitely didn't get the bottom text part and raged about it in a YouTube video
Post by: team filler on July 25, 2019, 12:10:23 AM
Do Germans even have noticeably broad foreheads? Can any Germans here confirm/deny?
I always thought that was a stereotype of slavic people. :trumps
Broad foreheads appear in my family as well as in the appropriate ethnoreligious/ethnic grouping, as well as narrow foreheads.
And we're not Germanic/Slavic/Euros, far from it, so I wouldn't put stock in it.
stock :nope
cock :ohyeah
Post by: team filler on July 25, 2019, 01:11:56 PM
Post by: Momo on July 26, 2019, 03:19:02 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0Nj6Z3NAu4
The dramatic music :dead
Post by: Oblivion on July 26, 2019, 10:43:34 PM
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“I am open to using any platform that is brave enough to allow me to share my journalism and true facts with the public,” said Laura Loomer, the right-wing provocateur who describes herself as an “anti-Islam journalist.” “I do not currently have an account with Thinkspot,” added Loomer, who was permanently banned from Twitter last year, “but that does not mean I will not consider it in the future.”
Still, some were skeptical that Peterson would stay true to his promise not to ban users.
The neo-Nazi blogger Andrew Anglin, who is currently in hiding as he evades a series of lawsuits, two of which have already put him $18 million in the red, told The Forward in an email that he would join Thinkspot.
“I will sign up for Jordan Peterson’s thing of course, and will be banned for some inane reason,” said Anglin, who was banned from Twitter in 2015 but is currently operating at least one anonymous account on the platform, according to a source. “But it will be necessary to sign up and be banned to prove the point.”
https://forward.com/news/national/428250/white-supremacist-jordan-peterson-parler-laura-loomer/ (https://forward.com/news/national/428250/white-supremacist-jordan-peterson-parler-laura-loomer/)
Post by: benjipwns on July 26, 2019, 11:58:43 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 27, 2019, 12:02:24 AM
Post by: team filler on July 27, 2019, 02:36:31 PM
https://twitter.com/Hbomberguy/status/1154981549902835712(https://i.imgur.com/L1lKn6X.jpg)
Post by: Kara on July 27, 2019, 02:44:34 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 27, 2019, 02:58:46 PM
https://twitter.com/LivvyFanon/status/1151947372160671744
(https://i.imgur.com/6GlviQF.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/t2sPzip.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FuuciQy.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/09D7fdp.jpg)
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Post by: Oblivion on July 27, 2019, 06:12:51 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 27, 2019, 07:50:38 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 27, 2019, 07:57:12 PM
Discourse Lover :lawd
You should listen to Age of Napoleon :ufup
I'll get around to it, I'm not really a podcast guy
Post by: Kara on July 27, 2019, 08:07:58 PM
Post by: Mandark on July 27, 2019, 08:21:12 PM
You should listen to Age of Napoleon
That shift from being able to binge the back episodes of a podcast to waiting two weeks for every new one suuuuuucks.
Post by: benjipwns on July 27, 2019, 09:12:19 PM
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https://twitter.com/mikeduncan/status/1155242008694407168When you ignore someone, you're basically murdering that person in the digital realm. Add them to your Ignore List today!
Post by: agrajag on July 27, 2019, 09:18:49 PM
:maf
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 27, 2019, 09:35:58 PM
https://twitter.com/curaffairs/status/1155136072508170240
I looked the list up.
AOC, Greta, Soros, and Bouman are there.
Intellectuals and people we like list. And it's titled thinkers not intellectuals which makes more sense I suppose.
Post by: agrajag on July 27, 2019, 10:15:08 PM
long version:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
the left version means several orders of magnitude more relevant than the right? Like, you just compared a guy with a far reaching sphere of influence, big money behind him, heading an organization that routinely radicalizes those very college students you speak of to... the college students? You're also disingenuously mischaracterizing his fan base, many of whom watch the show for entertainment and to make fun of Sam's NY Jewish dialect. Like, I haven't seen a single example of anyone "gushing over him owning Charlie Kirk" other than the actual video, which was months ago. That's what you want to be hung up on as your indictment of the Majority Report? Lastly, Seder himself has no such delusions of grandeur that you attribute to him or his fans, I can't find the exact video but he explained that there is a niche for the left to engage and push back on right wing reactionaries and mid level henchmen like Kirk, Rubin and Crowder. He's not trying to be Chomsky.
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Post by: agrajag on July 27, 2019, 10:28:19 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on July 28, 2019, 07:37:18 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 28, 2019, 08:04:20 PM
https://twitter.com/dont_panic/status/1155255157807935488
https://twitter.com/Xenos_RIFS/status/1155239297353519104
Post by: agrajag on July 29, 2019, 12:33:39 PM
Post by: Rufus on July 29, 2019, 12:36:46 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on July 29, 2019, 02:08:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkSBfdXNWWk
Post by: Oblivion on July 29, 2019, 06:30:44 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 29, 2019, 06:31:46 PM
People in the UK will know who Katie Hopkins is, and may not like her. I think some people in the US might know her. However, like her or loathe her, I was genuinely surprised at how good a speaker she is. I think most people in the room were.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkSBfdXNWWk
https://twitter.com/dril/status/831805955402776576?lang=en
Post by: Leadbelly on July 29, 2019, 07:33:34 PM
People in the UK will know who Katie Hopkins is, and may not like her. I think some people in the US might know her. However, like her or loathe her, I was genuinely surprised at how good a speaker she is. I think most people in the room were.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkSBfdXNWWk
https://twitter.com/dril/status/831805955402776576?lang=en
So I am not misunderstanding... The point your making is, because of Katie Hopkins views, you should not in any circumstance say anything potentially positive about that person even if it is true? Just basically say she's shit at everything I guess?
Here's the thing: If a member of ISIL specifically debated against no platforming and they just happened to be a good orator and made a decent argument, against no-platforming[/u][/i], why would I not acknowledge that? You can separate the two things and be perfectly consistent.
Post by: curly on July 29, 2019, 08:23:18 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 29, 2019, 08:33:56 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 29, 2019, 09:00:17 PM
https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1155879566860279808
Using the keyword "Gilroy" for 20% off your first mass shooting!
Post by: Kara on July 29, 2019, 09:00:33 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 29, 2019, 09:16:08 PM
People in the UK will know who Katie Hopkins is, and may not like her. I think some people in the US might know her. However, like her or loathe her, I was genuinely surprised at how good a speaker she is. I think most people in the room were.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkSBfdXNWWk
https://twitter.com/dril/status/831805955402776576?lang=en
So I am not misunderstanding... The point your making is, because of Katie Hopkins views, you should not in any circumstance say anything potentially positive about that person even if it is true? Just basically say she's shit at everything I guess?
Here's the thing: If a member of ISIL specifically debated against no platforming and they just happened to be a good orator and made a decent argument, against no-platforming[/u][/i], why would I not acknowledge that? You can separate the two things and be perfectly consistent.
Because even for a rightwinger, Katie Hopkins is a special kind of horrible. And as Kara said, even if she may be right on this one issue, why are you actively seeking out broken clocks to form your political opinions?
Post by: Leadbelly on July 29, 2019, 10:22:08 PM
A stopped clock is right once or twice a day depending on whether or not it's 12 or 24 hour but people don't actively seek out stopped clocks to tell the time and it's not worth mentioning when they are telling the right time (tedious metaphors excluded).
The analogy doesn't work. Unless the stopped clock is a Patek Phillippe in which you can see the intricacies of its workings. Perhaps a little bit too much, but that seems more fitting. I watch the Oxford Union debates quite often and found it genuinely surprising she is a good orator. It is a about her craft hence the 'intricacies of its workings' metaphor. ;)
Because even for a rightwinger, Katie Hopkins is a special kind of horrible. And as Kara said, even if she may be right on this one issue, why are you actively seeking out broken clocks to form your political opinions?
And kind of already mentioned, but I seek out Oxford Union debates, not always, but it is something I return to from time to time. Katie Hopkins isn't actually a go-to commentator who I hang on every word. I watched the video, heard her argument, and was genuinely surprised by it. Obviously I probably wouldn't be surprised if I actively seeked her out. I would know this already :p
Post by: benjipwns on July 29, 2019, 11:07:59 PM
https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1155879566860279808(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2b/DilBeriTO.jpg)
Post by: agrajag on July 30, 2019, 01:45:11 AM
dracarys!
Post by: Mandark on July 30, 2019, 02:03:28 AM
Here's the thing: If a member of ISIL specifically debated against no platforming and they just happened to be a good orator and made a decent argument, against no-platforming[/u][/i], why would I not acknowledge that? You can separate the two things and be perfectly consistent.
First, I'd note that ISIL has a very real material interest in opposing no-platforming (they want it to be easier to recruit young men to be mass murderers), which has implications both for the credibility of his arguments, and for no-platforming generally.
Second, if I found myself being swayed by a moral argument coming from a member of ISIL, I hope that I would have enough self-awareness to question whether I was becoming either reactionary or a gullible dumbfuck.
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 30, 2019, 02:05:06 AM
https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/1155944224795140096
dracarys!
ahaha, Taleb
0/10, no use of Phoenician or imbecile, out of character
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 30, 2019, 09:21:43 AM
A stopped clock is right once or twice a day depending on whether or not it's 12 or 24 hour but people don't actively seek out stopped clocks to tell the time and it's not worth mentioning when they are telling the right time (tedious metaphors excluded).
A stopped clock may be right twice a day, but how would you know? :thinking
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 12:27:01 PM
Here's the thing: If a member of ISIL specifically debated against no platforming and they just happened to be a good orator and made a decent argument, against no-platforming[/u][/i], why would I not acknowledge that? You can separate the two things and be perfectly consistent.
First, I'd note that ISIL has a very real material interest in opposing no-platforming (they want it to be easier to recruit young men to be mass murderers), which has implications both for the credibility of his arguments, and for no-platforming generally.
Second, if I found myself being swayed by a moral argument coming from a member of ISIL, I hope that I would have enough self-awareness to question whether I was becoming either reactionary or a gullible dumbfuck.
Well, there's that argument, would you give a platform to Nazis? And many freep-speech advocates would say yes. They would give a platform to a Nazi and argue against them.
And Mandark this is another one of your posts that completely misses the point and brings absolutely nothing.
What is the moral argument? The fact that you don't even recognise the actual content of the argument would be important is quite typical of you.
Post by: Mandark on July 30, 2019, 12:30:56 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 12:37:53 PM
PS "wow this professional media figure is pretty good at talking" is less meaningful than you seem to think it is.
I never understand the point of your posts. lol
You people post these people in this thread all the time. Not in any positive sense, but then usually without context. There is a reason it was posted in this thread and not another. I posted it because I just watched it and was genuinely surprised. Read my original post again. I did not in any way suggest it was meaningful, only that I was 'genuinely surprised' by that. Nothing more. It is you looking for some greater meaning in it not me.. :p
Post by: Mandark on July 30, 2019, 12:40:17 PM
I never understand the point of your posts.
yeah I know
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 30, 2019, 01:39:27 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 01:52:40 PM
boy that leni riefenstal could sure frame a scene
Yeah. I notice you have to exaggerate just how bad Katie Hopkins is for that to make sense. Katie Hopkins is not Hitler. I would argue that a better comparison would be Ann Coulter. She is the British Ann Coulter. And Ann Coulter is not Hitler.
Although... Many people do comment on Hitler's ability as an orator, don't they? Funny enough.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 30, 2019, 01:55:44 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 02:05:39 PM
riefenstahl was hitler??? QANON IS REAL
No, but you are intentionally invoking the Nazi regime and the horrors that subsequently followed, aren't you? As if that is actually comparable.
And in any case, if I said I am genuinely surprised at how well made the Nazi propaganda movies were, I fail to see how that would necessarily be in bad taste. I think many people can separate the horrors of WWII with simply objectively viewing the technical ability of nazi film making.
I agree the way comments are phrased can be in bad taste though.
Post by: Oblivion on July 30, 2019, 04:18:20 PM
boy that leni riefenstal could sure frame a scene
Yeah. I notice you have to exaggerate just how bad Katie Hopkins is for that to make sense. Katie Hopkins is not Hitler. I would argue that a better comparison would be Ann Coulter. She is the British Ann Coulter. And Ann Coulter is not Hitler.
Although... Many people do comment on Hitler's ability as an orator, don't they? Funny enough.
what exactly do you think you're arguing here, pal? :thinking
Post by: Oblivion on July 30, 2019, 04:23:26 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 30, 2019, 04:27:03 PM
:yikes
Post by: agrajag on July 30, 2019, 04:29:06 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 30, 2019, 04:50:17 PM
boy that leni riefenstal could sure frame a scene
Yeah. I notice you have to exaggerate just how bad Katie Hopkins is for that to make sense. Katie Hopkins is not Hitler. I would argue that a better comparison would be Ann Coulter. She is the British Ann Coulter. And Ann Coulter is not Hitler.
Although... Many people do comment on Hitler's ability as an orator, don't they? Funny enough.
what exactly do you think you're arguing here, pal? :thinking
I think it's just a front for him having the hots for Hopkins
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 30, 2019, 05:09:00 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 05:46:30 PM
like, i get that 'well at least he/she is not LITERALLY hitler' is an applause line at trump rallies and the editorial pages of the federalist, but i would think conservatives on the bore would have a bit more sense than to use such lines here
I like how you and Mandark always make arguments that never really address the point. I am not the one bringing up Nazism. It is quite simple. Let me explain it in very simple language and clearly: A person compares me saying Katie Hopkins is a good orator to someone praising film work of a nazi propaganda movie. They are not comparable. Do you understand? Cheapening Nazism by literally throwing it at every right-winger it is not something I generally go along with.
And I am not conservative. I am a Left winger. I would see myself as an old school left winger who is actually for working class interests. I love how people assume just because I don't go along with your RElite bullshit I am automatically conservative. lol
I mean, I remember previously in this thread someone posting Steven Pinker tweets, as if mockingly, because lets face it you only post tweets in he mockingly for some reason, even when it is hard to actually understand what you are mocking. Yet, Steven Pinker is also on the left. He is one of the most rational and reasoned people around. Get a fucking grip.
Ann Coulter is a massive troll, though?
So is Katie Hopkins? Obviously they are not exactly alike, but if you were to compare her to someone, that is who I would compare her to. A right-winger with controversial opinions on things.
The funny thing is, none of you actually disagree with my assertion she is a good orator. 1. The argument made is not an objectionable argument. 2. She is a good orator. Stop trying to read something into everything just because I don't go along with your every worldview.
Post by: Nintex on July 30, 2019, 06:08:21 PM
The Nazi's had their own Marvel Cinematic Universe with super heroes before Disney had even thought about such a thing.riefenstahl was hitler??? QANON IS REAL
No, but you are intentionally invoking the Nazi regime and the horrors that subsequently followed, aren't you? As if that is actually comparable.
And in any case, if I said I am genuinely surprised at how well made the Nazi propaganda movies were, I fail to see how that would necessarily be in bad taste. I think many people can separate the horrors of WWII with simply objectively viewing the technical ability of nazi film making.
I agree the way comments are phrased can be in bad taste though.
I wouldn't buy Hugo Boss winter-coats though. That product placement deal didn't really work out for either party.
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 06:13:18 PM
inb4 leadbelly tells you he's not a conservative, he's a classical liberal
I will mention actually... It gets kind of murky when you mention classical liberal values, or lets say, Enlightenment values. Classical liberalism these days I hear described as being on the right. The Liberal Party in Australia is actually a right wing party, for instance. However, historically those values could be seen as on the Left.
What side would you say Noam Chomsky is on for instance? Yet he holds values I would consider classical liberal, libertarian, and of the Enlightenment.
What side is Glenn Greenwald on?
Edit: Incidentally, as this subject has been brought up. I remember watching this interview with someone who considers themself a classical liberal and right wing. Also Australian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=867d4Jdi3wQ
Good channel btw... Although I know instantly this will not pass your 'left-wing' purity test. Even though they describe themselves as left-wing.
Konstantin Kisin, who also describes himself as left-wing, I feel will make you suspicious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgC17lb1tN0
Post by: Oblivion on July 30, 2019, 06:38:16 PM
inb4 leadbelly tells you he's not a conservative, he's a classical liberal
I will mention actually... It gets kind of murky when you mention classical liberal values, or lets say, Enlightenment values. Classical liberalism these days I hear described as being on the right. The Liberal Party in Australia is actually a right wing party, for instance. However, historically those values could be seen as on the Left.
What side would you say Noam Chomsky is on for instance? Yet he holds values I would consider classical liberal, libertarian, and of the Enlightenment.
What side is Glenn Greenwald on?
this is an astronomically naive and/or bad faith comparison.
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Edit: Incidentally, as this subject has been brought up. I remember watching this interview with someone who considers themself a classical liberal and right wing. Also Australian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=867d4Jdi3wQ
Good channel btw... Although I know instantly this will not pass your 'left-wing' purity test. Even though they describe themselves as left-wing.
Konstantin Kisin, who also describes himself as left-wing, I feel will make you suspicious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgC17lb1tN0
ah yes, a channel called 'triggernometry', whose founder is a contributor for the outlet of afficionados of skull measuring, Quillete, very known for being 'on the left'.
edit: also, you know when someone 'DESTROYS' their opposition when they say that's what they've done themselves :lol
Post by: shosta on July 30, 2019, 06:44:53 PM
What side would you say Noam Chomsky is on for instance? Yet he holds values I would consider classical liberal, libertarian, and of the Enlightenment.(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PleasantLinedAfricanparadiseflycatcher-max-1mb.gif)
Post by: Oblivion on July 30, 2019, 06:45:43 PM
like, i get that 'well at least he/she is not LITERALLY hitler' is an applause line at trump rallies and the editorial pages of the federalist, but i would think conservatives on the bore would have a bit more sense than to use such lines here
I like how you and Mandark always make arguments that never really address the point. I am not the one bringing up Nazism. It is quite simple. Let me explain it in very simple language and clearly: A person compares me saying Katie Hopkins is a good orator to someone praising film work of a nazi propaganda movie. They are not comparable. Do you understand? Cheapening Nazism by literally throwing it at every right-winger it is not something I generally go along with.
And I am not conservative. I am a Left winger. I would see myself as an old school left winger who is actually for working class interests. I love how people assume just because I don't go along with your RElite bullshit I am automatically conservative. lol
I mean, I remember previously in this thread someone posting Steven Pinker tweets, as if mockingly, because lets face it you only post tweets in he mockingly for some reason, even when it is hard to actually understand what you are mocking. Yet, Steven Pinker is also on the left. He is one of the most rational and reasoned people around. Get a fucking grip.
right, the best kinds of leftists are ones who...always post positively about the right and shit on the left.
when was the last time pinker criticized the Right for anything?
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 06:47:36 PM
inb4 leadbelly tells you he's not a conservative, he's a classical liberal
I will mention actually... It gets kind of murky when you mention classical liberal values, or lets say, Enlightenment values. Classical liberalism these days I hear described as being on the right. The Liberal Party in Australia is actually a right wing party, for instance. However, historically those values could be seen as on the Left.
What side would you say Noam Chomsky is on for instance? Yet he holds values I would consider classical liberal, libertarian, and of the Enlightenment.
What side is Glenn Greenwald on?
this is an astronomically naive and/or bad faith comparison.QuoteEdit: Incidentally, as this subject has been brought up. I remember watching this interview with someone who considers themself a classical liberal and right wing. Also Australian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=867d4Jdi3wQ
Good channel btw... Although I know instantly this will not pass your 'left-wing' purity test. Even though they describe themselves as left-wing.
Konstantin Kisin, who also describes himself as left-wing, I feel will make you suspicious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgC17lb1tN0
ah yes, a channel called 'triggernometry', whose founder is a contributor for the outlet of afficionados of skull measuring, Quillete, very known for being 'on the left'.
Could you just be clear about what you are saying? Who?
Also, as you might guess, I would have no issue with them, whom ever you mean, writing a piece on Quillette. If that is how you define 'left-wing' then I guess you have also found Steven Pinker out, because he has also been a contributor on Quillette. Maybe that is why his tweets deserve being mocked?
Edit: Also the 'DESTROYS' thing I am pretty sure is being ironic. They are comedians and have actually joked about Youtube videos like that before.
Post by: Oblivion on July 30, 2019, 06:53:54 PM
inb4 leadbelly tells you he's not a conservative, he's a classical liberal
I will mention actually... It gets kind of murky when you mention classical liberal values, or lets say, Enlightenment values. Classical liberalism these days I hear described as being on the right. The Liberal Party in Australia is actually a right wing party, for instance. However, historically those values could be seen as on the Left.
What side would you say Noam Chomsky is on for instance? Yet he holds values I would consider classical liberal, libertarian, and of the Enlightenment.
What side is Glenn Greenwald on?
this is an astronomically naive and/or bad faith comparison.QuoteEdit: Incidentally, as this subject has been brought up. I remember watching this interview with someone who considers themself a classical liberal and right wing. Also Australian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=867d4Jdi3wQ
Good channel btw... Although I know instantly this will not pass your 'left-wing' purity test. Even though they describe themselves as left-wing.
Konstantin Kisin, who also describes himself as left-wing, I feel will make you suspicious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgC17lb1tN0
ah yes, a channel called 'triggernometry', whose founder is a contributor for the outlet of afficionados of skull measuring, Quillete, very known for being 'on the left'.
Could you just be clear about what you are saying? Who?
Also, as you might guess, I would have no issue with them, whom ever you mean, writing a piece on Quillette. If that is how you define 'left-wing' then I guess you have also found Steven Pinker out, because he has also been a contributor on Quillette. Maybe that is why his tweets deserve being mocked?
i was talking about the 'comedian' in the video you referenced. thought that was clear, but it could also apply to the entire channel. and yes, virtually anyone, with the tiniest of exceptions, who writes for quillete is in any way leftist.
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Edit: Also the 'DESTROYS' thing I am pretty sure is being ironic. They are comedians and have actually joked about Youtube videos like that before.
nobody on the planet who uses the word 'trigger' unironically would be using the word 'DESTROYS' unironically either.
Post by: Oblivion on July 30, 2019, 06:54:54 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 30, 2019, 06:58:00 PM
Gillette :ohyeah
Post by: Oblivion on July 30, 2019, 07:03:30 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 07:04:08 PM
inb4 leadbelly tells you he's not a conservative, he's a classical liberal
I will mention actually... It gets kind of murky when you mention classical liberal values, or lets say, Enlightenment values. Classical liberalism these days I hear described as being on the right. The Liberal Party in Australia is actually a right wing party, for instance. However, historically those values could be seen as on the Left.
What side would you say Noam Chomsky is on for instance? Yet he holds values I would consider classical liberal, libertarian, and of the Enlightenment.
What side is Glenn Greenwald on?
this is an astronomically naive and/or bad faith comparison.QuoteEdit: Incidentally, as this subject has been brought up. I remember watching this interview with someone who considers themself a classical liberal and right wing. Also Australian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=867d4Jdi3wQ
Good channel btw... Although I know instantly this will not pass your 'left-wing' purity test. Even though they describe themselves as left-wing.
Konstantin Kisin, who also describes himself as left-wing, I feel will make you suspicious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgC17lb1tN0
ah yes, a channel called 'triggernometry', whose founder is a contributor for the outlet of afficionados of skull measuring, Quillete, very known for being 'on the left'.
Could you just be clear about what you are saying? Who?
Also, as you might guess, I would have no issue with them, whom ever you mean, writing a piece on Quillette. If that is how you define 'left-wing' then I guess you have also found Steven Pinker out, because he has also been a contributor on Quillette. Maybe that is why his tweets deserve being mocked?
i was talking about the 'comedian' in the video you referenced. thought that was clear, but it could also apply to the entire channel. and yes, virtually anyone, with the tiniest of exceptions, who writes for quillete is in any way leftist.QuoteEdit: Also the 'DESTROYS' thing I am pretty sure is being ironic. They are comedians and have actually joked about Youtube videos like that before.
nobody on the planet who uses the word 'trigger' unironically would be using the word 'DESTROYS' unironically either.
lol
I knew you would be suspicious of him. Just knew it. I'm not going to try to convince you. I just feel some of you take this whole left and right thing a bit too seriously. I am of the opinion actually that these labels don't really mean anything anymore. I identify as left because my roots are working class, and so my interests and loyalty still lies with the working class. But then the left has moved on to identity politics which I simply don't subscribe to. And some right wingers make way more sense than some left wingers. I don't have the same notion of left and right anymore where the left must be firmly over here and never venture out acorss the border. That is kind of how it seems with you.
One of my favourite commentators for instance is Douglas Murray, who is right wing. Also, I will stress that still doesn't mean that was the reason I posted the Katie Hopkins video. That was simply because I watch Oxford Union debates, as I said, and thought she was good in that debate. And it was not an endorsment of all her views. Just to make that clear.
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 07:09:59 PM
leadbelly strikes me as a more polite version of assimiliate/optimus. someone who theoretically is okay with raising the minimum wage, but really, REALLY thinks we should bring back the n-word in public discourse
I am also going to let you into a secret. I am mixed race. I look kind of caucasian though, but more mediterranean caucasian as I have dark skin. My grandfather was from Jamaica, which in turn makes my mother, in the old english way of saying it, half-caste, which in turn makes me quarter black. I maintain dark skin though. More like yellow skin. I am also of Jewish ancestry and English ancestry. I am a complete mongrel.
And now you have nowhere to turn. lol
Post by: team filler on July 30, 2019, 07:24:40 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 30, 2019, 07:25:59 PM
Admittedly, i haven't followed literally every single one of your posts, but of the posts that i've seen - which is many btw - all you fucking post is videos shitting on the 'identity politics', 'sjw' left. when's the last post you made arguing about workers' rights or whatever?
like do you think the issue that people have with jordan peterson, sargon or their ilk is one of labels? that if only leftists would agree that they're actually really leftist in some tortured way, then suddenly we'll start liking/agreeing with them
come on, son
come on
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 07:33:10 PM
And lack of respect for whom?
Post by: shosta on July 30, 2019, 07:36:35 PM
I will mention actually... It gets kind of murky when you mention classical liberal values, or lets say, Enlightenment values. Classical liberalism these days I hear described as being on the right. The Liberal Party in Australia is actually a right wing party, for instance. However, historically those values could be seen as on the Left.Look, there's no such thing as classical liberalism as a modern ideology. This is an artificial anachronism people have made up. Liberalism in the late 18th and 19th centuries was a social and economic movement that stood in opposition to monarchism and mercantilism. These are your voltaires, your adam smiths. Then you have progressives in the late 19th century who advocated social change. The word liberal, in many places, describes the progressives, who are technically descended from the liberals of yore but that liberalism won in every "western" country on Earth once WWII was over (excluding some fascist holdovers like Falangist Spain and Estado Novo in Portugal) so this describes EVERYONE you would ever bother to talk about.
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What side would you say Noam Chomsky is on for instance? Yet he holds values I would consider classical liberal, libertarian, and of the Enlightenment.Noam Chomsky is an anti-capitalist, communitarian, etc. etc. He thinks free market capitalism has pathologized human behavior. He wants complete public ownership of capital. FaSinPat, syndicalist, pro-union... Comparing him to the aforementioned philosophical tradition is completely inaccurate, even if he is "pro free speech" or "anti authoritarianism". GOOGLE MURRAY BOOKCHIN (this is a meme, don't google murray bookchin).
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What side is Glenn Greenwald on?Does he call himself a classical liberal? Besides, The Intercept is like one of the (best, and) wokest news organizations around. They have been hammering hard against ICE for years. They have covered corrupt and racist police practices. Glenn is GAY!
Since it is not clear to you yet... classical liberalism is a shibboleth for people who just want to participate in the anti-woke debate. That's it. Steve Pinker's only two contributions to the public forum are a defense of global capitalism (he is what is known as a DWEIB (http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45863.msg2672143#msg2672143)) and several groans toward college campus liberalism. "Classical liberalism" as a phrase is a thing Jordan Peterson made up in an angry email because he got mad that people kept pegging him as conservative or right wing. Somehow it caught on among other people who, like Peterson, don't know really know much about history. To date, the vast majority of Jordan Peterson's fame has come from trying to organize a counter cultural movement against the SJWs who will literally destroy society by turning into Nazis or Communists. Dave Rubin started using the phrase because he can only use words that other people string together for him (because he is an idiot). Are you seeing a pattern?
You can get by like the rest of us and just say that you're not really into woke culture. I am not into woke culture. I know agrafrag is also not into woke culture. However, if I said I was really anti-woke-culture, and I made this part of my identity, and I went to meetup.com and looked for anti-woke meetups, and I found one at the local bar, and went to their next meetup, there is a good chance I will be hanging out with Proudboys and College Republicans. As someone whose roommate used to host the Sac State Young Republican club meetings, I never want to do that ever again.
I am not conservative. I am a Left winger. I would see myself as an old school left winger who is actually for working class interests.If this is true, and I suspect it is, I think it would be better if we could get you to start participating in constructive socialist discussion instead of the onanistic circle jerk and intellectual dead end that is wank-dadaism. You are caught in a trap defending people that don't need defending (your last few posts are just you getting triggered over and over again). Let me explain it to you as simply as possible: Mandark, and probably to an extent Oblivion, never said you are conservative, and don't think you are. They just think you're dumb. And they will dunk on you for as long as you give them ammunition. Just give up now.
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 07:38:23 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 30, 2019, 07:46:39 PM
nobody on the planet who uses the word 'trigger' unironically would be using the word 'DESTROYS' unironically either.
-Trigger
-DESTROYS
-SJWs
Leadbelly: But they're totally left-wing, guys!
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 08:01:11 PM
I will mention actually... It gets kind of murky when you mention classical liberal values, or lets say, Enlightenment values. Classical liberalism these days I hear described as being on the right. The Liberal Party in Australia is actually a right wing party, for instance. However, historically those values could be seen as on the Left.Look, there's no such thing as classical liberalism as a modern ideology. This is an artificial anachronism people have made up. Liberalism in the late 18th and 19th centuries was a social and economic movement that stood in opposition to monarchism and mercantilism. These are your voltaires, your adam smiths. Then you have progressives in the late 19th century who advocated social change. The word liberal, in many places, describes the progressives, who are technically descended from the liberals of yore but that liberalism won in every "western" country on Earth once WWII was over (excluding some fascist holdovers like Falangist Spain and Estado Novo in Portugal) so this describes EVERYONE you would ever bother to talk about.QuoteWhat side would you say Noam Chomsky is on for instance? Yet he holds values I would consider classical liberal, libertarian, and of the Enlightenment.Noam Chomsky is an anti-capitalist, communitarian, etc. etc. He thinks free market capitalism has pathologized human behavior. He wants complete public ownership of capital. FaSinPat, syndicalist, pro-union... Comparing him to the aforementioned philosophical tradition is completely inaccurate, even if he is "pro free speech" or "anti authoritarianism". GOOGLE MURRAY BOOKCHIN (this is a meme, don't google murray bookchin).QuoteWhat side is Glenn Greenwald on?Does he call himself a classical liberal? Besides, The Intercept is like one of the (best, and) wokest news organizations around. They have been hammering hard against ICE for years. They have covered corrupt and racist police practices. Glenn is GAY!
Since it is not clear to you yet... classical liberalism is a shibboleth for people who just want to participate in the anti-woke debate. That's it. Steve Pinker's only two contributions to the public forum are a defense of global capitalism (he is what is known as a DWEIB (http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45863.msg2672143#msg2672143)) and several groans toward college campus liberalism. "Classical liberalism" as a phrase is a thing Jordan Peterson made up in an angry email because he got mad that people kept pegging him as conservative or right wing. Somehow it caught on among other people who, like Peterson, don't know really know much about history. To date, the vast majority of Jordan Peterson's fame has come from trying to organize a counter cultural movement against the SJWs who will literally destroy society by turning into Nazis or Communists. Dave Rubin started using the phrase because he can only use words that other people string together for him (because he is an idiot). Are you seeing a pattern?
You can get by like the rest of us and just say that you're not really into woke culture. I am not into woke culture. I know agrafrag is also not into woke culture. However, if I said I was really anti-woke-culture, and I made this part of my identity, and I went to meetup.com and looked for anti-woke meetups, and I found one at the local bar, and went to their next meetup, there is a good chance I will be hanging out with Proudboys and College Republicans. As someone whose roommate used to host the Sac State Young Republican club meetings, I never want to do that ever again.I am not conservative. I am a Left winger. I would see myself as an old school left winger who is actually for working class interests.If this is true, and I suspect it is, I think it would be better if we could get you to start participating in constructive socialist discussion instead of the onanistic circle jerk and intellectual dead end that is wank-dadaism. You are caught in a trap defending people that don't need defending (your last few posts are just you getting triggered over and over again). Let me explain it to you as simply as possible: Mandark, and probably to an extent Oblivion, never said you are conservative, and don't think you are. They just think you're dumb. And they will dunk on you for as long as you give them ammunition. Just give up now.
Noam Chomsky can be described as a 'left-libertarian' and is in fact. Now the roots to the term 'libertarian' is actually to describe anarchists. Libertarian at one point in time was used synonymously with anarchism. I am not saying he is a classical liberal I was saying he has values consistent with classical liberalism, or libertarianism, or the Enlightenment. There is a reason I suggested all three. It is because I was referring to a particular set of values, rather than the entire philosophy, that is consistent within all three.
Classical liberal as a term, is just used to differentiate traditional liberalism(19th century), or classical liberalism, with modern liberalism. Particularly in America. And in fact people say libertarianism is basically started to differentiate classical liberalism with modern liberalism, which has lost all meaning. It is true that there is very little difference between what could be considered a libertarian viewpoint and a classical liberal viewpoint. And then you could go on to objectivism and Ayn Rand, which could be described as extreme libertarianism or extreme classical liberalism.
The root of liberalism can be summed up in one sentence: The freedom of the individual. It is a philosphy that stemmed from the idea that the individual is sacred. And so what naturally follows is that the state's power over the individual is suspect. Andfollowing from that there is a desire to limit state power or remove it altogether.
You're looking at it from an economic perspective rather than a social one. In terms of the social Noam Chomsky comes at it from the Enlightenment perspective through and through. That is, the freedom of the individual. He is not collective socially, he is most definitely individualistic.
The point I was making is that it is really murky. The line is blurred as where does that base of the individual is sacred then cross from one side to the other? not so clear.
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 30, 2019, 08:10:42 PM
Quilette :nope
Gillette :ohyeah
I feel safe in saying that Quilette is definitely not the best a man can get.
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 08:14:57 PM
nobody on the planet who uses the word 'trigger' unironically would be using the word 'DESTROYS' unironically either.
-Trigger
-DESTROYS
-SJWs
Leadbelly: But they're totally left-wing, guys!
It is a joke. Trust me on that.
That said, I swear I don't get you guys sometimes. You will sit there mocking RE members who are the absolute classic definition of an 'SJW' but then question a person's left-ness for mocking similar ideas.
Post by: Mandark on July 30, 2019, 08:16:25 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 08:19:17 PM
there is a devastating burn that I have refrained from using because it would hurt leadbelly too much
Do it. I don't believe you could say anything that wouldn't make yourself look stupid. ;)
Kind of kidding, or not, maybe.
Edit: And I am not hurt by anything, I just can't help defending my position whenever I am attacked. I can't let anything go. lol
Post by: Mandark on July 30, 2019, 08:30:30 PM
Do it.
man it's pretty rough and idk if I want that blood on my hands
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 08:32:54 PM
Post by: Kara on July 30, 2019, 08:36:27 PM
there is a devastating burn that I have refrained from using because it would hurt leadbelly too much
If it's about Patek Philippe references being horribly dated haute horlogerie then I feel you.
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 08:39:42 PM
there is a devastating burn that I have refrained from using because it would hurt leadbelly too much
If it's about Patek Philippe references being horribly dated haute horlogerie then I feel you.
I imagine the date works perfectly fine on a Patek Philippe watch. I don't know what you're talking about. ;)
Post by: Mandark on July 30, 2019, 08:40:06 PM
Actually, I should point out because I never did in my other post: Classical liberalism is referring mainly to the brand of liberalism in the UK. The sort of John Stuart Mill liberalism.
so like colonizing india and whatnot
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 08:45:43 PM
Actually, I should point out because I never did in my other post: Classical liberalism is referring mainly to the brand of liberalism in the UK. The sort of John Stuart Mill liberalism.
so like colonizing india and whatnot
It tends to be anglocentric. So when Jordan Peterson talks about classical liberalism for instance, it is generally anglocentric.
That said, ultimately it just stems from a basic idea: the freedom of the individual. As obviously 'liber' simply mean 'free'. Free man. That's all it is. Where as modern day liberalism, in many ways is illiberal. It is anti-freedom of the individual.
Post by: Mandark on July 30, 2019, 08:48:08 PM
That said, ultimately it just stems from a basic idea: the freedom of the individual.
but not so much for the indian individual
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 08:51:44 PM
That said, ultimately it just stems from a basic idea: the freedom of the individual.
but not so much for the indian individual
Obviously I'm not going to take this bait. You have to try a bit harder than that.
Post by: agrajag on July 30, 2019, 08:52:23 PM
there is a devastating burn that I have refrained from using because it would hurt leadbelly too much
If it's about Patek Philippe references being horribly dated haute horlogerie then I feel you.
how is a proletarian so well versed in luxury wristwear?
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 08:56:05 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 30, 2019, 08:57:39 PM
I think there is a 't' on the end of that word, not an 'n'.
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noun
1.
a member of the proletariat.
synonyms: working-class person, worker, working person, plebeian, commoner, ordinary person, man/woman/person in the street; More
any further questions?
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 09:00:30 PM
I think there is a 't' on the end of that word, not an 'n'.Quotenoun
1.
a member of the proletariat.
synonyms: working-class person, worker, working person, plebeian, commoner, ordinary person, man/woman/person in the street; More
any further questions?
Edited before you posted.
Post by: Mandark on July 30, 2019, 09:00:48 PM
"then we should talk about how those classic liberals actually operated during their lifetimes"
"no that would be trolling"
Post by: agrajag on July 30, 2019, 09:01:29 PM
I think there is a 't' on the end of that word, not an 'n'.Quotenoun
1.
a member of the proletariat.
synonyms: working-class person, worker, working person, plebeian, commoner, ordinary person, man/woman/person in the street; More
any further questions?
Edited before you posted.
That doesn't absolve you, it just shows your cowardice in trying to cover your tracks, bud. :brain
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 09:05:53 PM
"current so-called liberalism is anti-freedom, we use the term classical liberalism to refer to the real stuff"
"then we should talk about how those classic liberals actually operated during their lifetimes"
"no that would be trolling"
Oh you were being serious?
It's sort of pointless... It's kind of like talking about the founding principles of the United States and saying we must talk about slavery.
Post by: shosta on July 30, 2019, 09:08:33 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 09:09:21 PM
I think there is a 't' on the end of that word, not an 'n'.Quotenoun
1.
a member of the proletariat.
synonyms: working-class person, worker, working person, plebeian, commoner, ordinary person, man/woman/person in the street; More
any further questions?
Edited before you posted.
That doesn't absolve you, it just shows your cowardice in trying to cover your tracks, bud. :brain
No. I have admitted a number of times on these forums when I get things wrong.
Edit: Also what would be the point of needlessly carrying on a disagreement about a word? It's not like I presented a whole argument that is fundamentally flawed and tried to cover my tracks.
Post by: curly on July 30, 2019, 09:12:41 PM
Oh you were being serious?
It's sort of pointless... It's kind of like talking about the founding principles of the United States and saying we must talk about slavery.
lol
Post by: agrajag on July 30, 2019, 09:16:40 PM
I think there is a 't' on the end of that word, not an 'n'.Quotenoun
1.
a member of the proletariat.
synonyms: working-class person, worker, working person, plebeian, commoner, ordinary person, man/woman/person in the street; More
any further questions?
Edited before you posted.
That doesn't absolve you, it just shows your cowardice in trying to cover your tracks, bud. :brain
No. I have admitted a number of times on these forums when I get things wrong.
Edit: Also what would be the point of needlessly carrying on a disagreement about a word? It's not like I presented a whole argument that is fundementally flawed and tried to cover my tracks.
If it's fair game for you to try to point out my incorrect usage of word, it's fair game for me to DESTROY you with facts and logic. ;)
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 09:17:24 PM
I think there is a 't' on the end of that word, not an 'n'.Quotenoun
1.
a member of the proletariat.
synonyms: working-class person, worker, working person, plebeian, commoner, ordinary person, man/woman/person in the street; More
any further questions?
Edited before you posted.
That doesn't absolve you, it just shows your cowardice in trying to cover your tracks, bud. :brain
No. I have admitted a number of times on these forums when I get things wrong.
Edit: Also what would be the point of needlessly carrying on a disagreement about a word? It's not like I presented a whole argument that is fundementally flawed and tried to cover my tracks.
If it's fair game for you to try to point out my incorrect usage of word, it's fair game for me to DESTROY you with facts and logic. ;)
Fair enough.
Post by: Mandark on July 30, 2019, 09:17:47 PM
It's sort of pointless... It's kind of like talking about the founding principles of the United States and saying we must talk about slavery.
I mean, yes?
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 09:19:00 PM
It's sort of pointless... It's kind of like talking about the founding principles of the United States and saying we must talk about slavery.
I mean, yes?
Does it mean the principles are wrong?
Post by: Mandark on July 30, 2019, 09:19:47 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 09:22:06 PM
Post by: Mandark on July 30, 2019, 09:22:59 PM
Isn't discussing the contradictions in the liberal intellectual tradition (from the left and right) pretty much the point of this entire thread? :doge
It used to be about bullying Assimilate into reading
Post by: Mandark on July 30, 2019, 09:23:16 PM
Do you believe in the principle that humans should be endowed with certain unalienable rights?
I don't think people have the right to own slaves, no.
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 09:24:49 PM
Edit: okay I am bored of this now. Might as well post your random tweets that you do.
Post by: Mandark on July 30, 2019, 09:26:09 PM
Right so, you have to dodge the question instead. There you go. You know the answer. :p
do you think workers should have the surplus value of their labor stolen away from them?
Post by: shosta on July 30, 2019, 09:27:32 PM
Post by: Kara on July 30, 2019, 09:30:20 PM
there is a devastating burn that I have refrained from using because it would hurt leadbelly too much
If it's about Patek Philippe references being horribly dated haute horlogerie then I feel you.
how is a proletarian so well versed in luxury wristwear?
I had a rage post about service times and their biggest news at Baselworld 2019 being a khaki green dial Aquanaut with a white gold case before I just closed the tab in disgust.
:goty
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Strictly speaking I'm petit bourgeois but the distinction between "petit bourgeois who directly sells their labor" and a proletarian is murky, if not artificial.
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Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 09:31:30 PM
No, what i really mean is...I...errr...feel really hard done by. Yeah... <.< >.>
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 09:34:38 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 30, 2019, 09:34:39 PM
Post by: shosta on July 30, 2019, 09:37:36 PM
I would be more impressed if it wasn't copy pasta.it's not copypasta, it's Lenin :ussrcry
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 09:40:45 PM
I would be more impressed if it wasn't copy pasta.it's not copypasta, it's Lenin :ussrcry
Should have been someone a little more obscure like Harry Haywood. You'd get hipster brownie points then.
Post by: Mandark on July 30, 2019, 09:40:50 PM
Post by: Mandark on July 30, 2019, 09:41:24 PM
browning points
:doge
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 09:42:38 PM
Post by: Mandark on July 30, 2019, 09:45:44 PM
Post by: team filler on July 30, 2019, 09:52:11 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 30, 2019, 09:53:03 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 09:56:12 PM
Post by: Kara on July 30, 2019, 09:59:36 PM
Should the classical liberal trucker be a meme for this thread?
Post by: agrajag on July 30, 2019, 10:00:04 PM
Filler gives me likes when I am feeling lonely.
filler is basically the social safety net in the Bire's like economy
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 10:04:46 PM
Filler gives me likes when I am feeling lonely.
filler is basically the social safety net in the Bire's like economy
He's like Tom from MySpace.
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I wonder how many people will get that reference
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Post by: agrajag on July 30, 2019, 10:06:58 PM
Filler gives me likes when I am feeling lonely.
filler is basically the social safety net in the Bire's like economy
He's like Tom from MySpace.spoiler (click to show/hide)I wonder how many people will get that reference[close]
I was very active in the Myspace forums circa 2002ish
Post by: Oblivion on July 30, 2019, 10:07:38 PM
I don't like identity politics. I don't subscribe to it.
Yes..we know this. The issue is that you're obsessed with that shit.
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And so in threads like this it is more likely to be videos like that. Which is what the thread was intended for, no? The continuation of wank dad?
Except that when we post articles/tweets from/about them, we do so in order to mock them, whereas you post to praise them.
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And lack of respect for whom?
For pretty much everyone in this thread. You come struttin' in here all like 'how do you do, fellow leftists?" and proceed to post shit like a video of stefan molyneux talking about how black people have low IQs and going 'now, i don't agree with everything said here, but he's so eloquent and you gotta admit, it's a pretty interesting discussion!".
and when you're called out on this bullshit, you insist you're not that different from anyone here. sure, you would LIKE to have the workers seize the means of production some day, but not before people like linda sarsour and anita sarkeesian are imprisoned first.
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 10:08:50 PM
Filler gives me likes when I am feeling lonely.
filler is basically the social safety net in the Bire's like economy
He's like Tom from MySpace.spoiler (click to show/hide)I wonder how many people will get that reference[close]
I was very active in the Myspace forums circa 2002ish
Oh. I wasn't, but I remember making a Myspace account and automatically get a friend and wondering who the fuck it was. lol
Post by: shosta on July 30, 2019, 10:12:43 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 30, 2019, 10:13:21 PM
Filler gives me likes when I am feeling lonely.
filler is basically the social safety net in the Bire's like economy
He's like Tom from MySpace.spoiler (click to show/hide)I wonder how many people will get that reference[close]
I was very active in the Myspace forums circa 2002ish
Oh. I wasn't, but I remember making a Myspace account and automatically get a friend and wondering who the fuck it was. lol
he was the grand daddy of like farming
but seriously, myspace had legitimately underrated forums. It had a robust atheist community, which was my bag in my late teens/early 20's
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 10:14:48 PM
I don't like identity politics. I don't subscribe to it.
Yes..we know this. The issue is that you're obsessed with that shit.QuoteAnd so in threads like this it is more likely to be videos like that. Which is what the thread was intended for, no? The continuation of wank dad?
Except that when we post articles/tweets from/about them, we do so in order to mock them, whereas you post to praise them.QuoteAnd lack of respect for whom?
For pretty much everyone in this thread. You come struttin' in here all like 'how do you do, fellow leftists?" and proceed to post shit like a video of stefan molyneux talking about how black people have low IQs and going 'now, i don't agree with everything said here, but he's so eloquent and you gotta admit, it's a pretty interesting discussion!".
and when you're called out on this bullshit, you insist you're not that different from anyone here. sure, you would LIKE to have the workers seize the means of production some day, but not before people like linda sarsour and anita sarkeesian are imprisoned first.
I've never posted a Stefan Molyneux video.
Why is it when people describe someone they have to exaggerate to make them appear like a complete cunt? It's not just you, people tend to do that. That's particularly true when you're young though.
I would suggest, which you probably won't do, going back and looking at the videos I've posted and seeing exactly how many are what you think they are. Ultimately though, I listen to many different channels and personalities, and like most people, I gravitate to some more than others. So they will always be of a certain flavour. None obviously will be particularly 'woke'.
Post by: agrajag on July 30, 2019, 10:17:44 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 10:20:02 PM
However, it appeared to be a continuation of the previous thread, which was kind of about those types of videos. So in my mind I am on topic.
Post by: Oblivion on July 30, 2019, 10:20:20 PM
Go ahead, do all that. It's actually more fun when people argue. I'm just saying stop trying to pretend that you're somebody you're not. You wanna post a contrarian take or defend one of the wank dads/moms, go for it. but don't try to distract by going 'hey hold on guys, you might think i have shitty opinions, but i have GOOD ones (that i'll almost never post) that you might agree with as well!"
Post by: agrajag on July 30, 2019, 10:23:19 PM
I guess...
However, it appeared to be a continuation of the previous thread, which was kind of about those types of videos. So in my mind I am on topic.
I think that it's quite clear that the thread has long moved on from its original dynamic, which was basically Etiolate stanning for Daddy P vs. everyone else. The shift has started around the time he was permanently banned from the forum. His disciple Assimilate tried to half-heartedly carry on his legacy, until his own demise. But hey, it seems you are ready and willing to take up Etiolate's mantle.
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 30, 2019, 10:24:52 PM
I guess...
However, it appeared to be a continuation of the previous thread, which was kind of about those types of videos. So in my mind I am on topic.
I think that it's quite clear that the thread has long moved on from its original dynamic, which was basically Etiolate stanning for Daddy P vs. everyone else. The shift has started around the time he was permanently banned from the forum. His disciple Assimilate tried to half-heartedly carry on his legacy, until his own demise. But hey, it seems you are ready and willing to take up Etiolate's mantle.
(https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.416866528.0766/flat,1000x1000,075,f.u2.jpg)
Post by: Mandark on July 30, 2019, 10:28:10 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 10:28:34 PM
Oh and to be clear, Leadbelly, I'm not saying that you shouldn't post that stuff in here, or that you're not allowed to dissent.
Go ahead, do all that. It's actually more fun when people argue. I'm just saying stop trying to pretend that you're somebody you're not. You wanna post a contrarian take or defend one of the wank dads/moms, go for it. but don't try to distract by going 'hey hold on guys, you might think i have shitty opinions, but i have GOOD ones (that i'll almost never post) that you might agree with as well!"
I will argue that this is just a perception. Funny enough, I never actually thought I was dissenting as much as you think. The RE thread never gives me that impression. So the idea I am just coming in here just to fuck with you with contrarian viewpoints is not actually true. Although, I have become more aware of that through interacting. But initially that wasn't my intention. Neither do I actually explain a lot what I have posted, I have just posted it. So the 'hold on guys' is actually in your head. You're guessing my intention in posting what I post.
Weirdly, the one video I have written something was the Katie Hopkins one. And that pretty much is the only one I think. And that actually suggests something. That the reason I felt I needed to say something was a preemption of how it might be received.
Post by: shosta on July 30, 2019, 10:31:35 PM
I think that it's quite clear that the thread has long moved on from its original dynamic, which was basically Etiolate stanning for Daddy P vs. everyone else. The shift has started around the time he was permanently banned from the forum. His disciple Assimilate tried to half-heartedly carry on his legacy, until his own demise. But hey, it seems you are ready and willing to take up Etiolate's mantle.rewriting history in my favor :bow
Post by: Mandark on July 30, 2019, 10:41:59 PM
etiolate: repeatedly uploaded his folder of starving children pics to The Bore to commit digital suicide, has yet to break open Seth Rich case.
hungrynoob: slowly drifted from JP's philosophy of masculine healing crystals to being a full-blown Qanon follower, seems to be shifting towards more normie rightwing talking points.
Assimilate: 15 year old girls talking about intersectional feminism on their Supernatural fandom tumblr blogs forced him to support Bolsonaro and to stay in a loveless relationship. As far as we know, is still eluding the liberal truckers' plots against his life.
Shostakovich: There are whispers that he once defended Peterson, but all his posts from that era have been sealed by an aggressive campaign of DMCA complaints. When asked recently about women wearing red lipstick at work he responded "it's probably fine" with a barely noticeable facial tic.
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 10:43:21 PM
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45681.msg2672508#msg2672508
I mentioned nothing about it, you'll notice, I just posted it. This is what I have done for most of my videos. I can't recall when I last actually made a comment about it. I probably have, it is just not often. This is my usual posting habit. And just as a point of detail, neither of these people are right wing either, they are both left wing. However, the topic of discussion is very similar to other videos I post.
Post by: Kara on July 30, 2019, 10:44:39 PM
Post by: Mandark on July 30, 2019, 10:48:11 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 10:52:52 PM
To be honest, I'm not really sure I care. As I said before, the terms have become meaningless to me, and this example kind of proves why.
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 10:58:07 PM
gotta say, bristling at people labelling ben shapiro as far right and calling sam harris left-wing makes for some pretty interesting political cartography
Was it ben shapiro? It's funny, you say I make bad arguments, but I thought my reasoning was totally sound on that term. As I said, the term far-right is associated with white supremacy. In most people's minds when they hear far-right they pretty much hear Nazi. And there is a good reason for this. It is because historically that was what the term suggested.
I also recall someone arguing that it doesn't mean that. Well, it seems like it doesn't mean that now, it has been broadened along with other terms. It comes across as a political tool to silence people you disagree with.
I posted this video to prove it is not just in my head:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWbEhJhVoMs
And now I am thinking, maybe it is a European thing? I don't know.
Post by: Mandark on July 30, 2019, 11:07:45 PM
I think the term 'spectrum' is a good word for this. I mentioned Glenn Greenwald in a previous post. Go on RE and you will find to some on there Greenwald doesn't pass the purity test. People will play the same game of suspicion. I think the problem is people want to own these terms and make them fit solidly with their own worldviews. This person can't be left because he doesn't agree with x,y,z.
To be honest, I'm not really sure I care. As I said before, the terms have become meaningless to me, and this example kind of proves why.
I'm not so sure he even considers himsef a man of the left, considering he's used "leftist" to describe nambla and islamist organizations
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 11:13:21 PM
I think the term 'spectrum' is a good word for this. I mentioned Glenn Greenwald in a previous post. Go on RE and you will find to some on there Greenwald doesn't pass the purity test. People will play the same game of suspicion. I think the problem is people want to own these terms and make them fit solidly with their own worldviews. This person can't be left because he doesn't agree with x,y,z.
To be honest, I'm not really sure I care. As I said before, the terms have become meaningless to me, and this example kind of proves why.
I'm not so sure he even considers himsef a man of the left, considering he's used "leftist" to describe nambla and islamist organizations
I don't know what you are referring to, so obviously I can't be sure what was meant or what was actually said in context. However, possibly he is distinguishing 'leftists' from 'liberals' which is a semantic trick some people do I notice. Basically means they don't necessarily subscribe to a certain set of beliefs but still idnetify with the left, so they feel they need to distinguish.
I think he describes himself as left of centre. Basically a moderate lefty.
Post by: Mandark on July 30, 2019, 11:16:28 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 11:23:49 PM
it wasn't said to distinguish left from liberal, but left from right
I've just remembered something Pinker said that I thought was absolutely spot on. lol
"The mythical left pole, where all directions are right".
When people hold opinions that are against a particular orthodoxy, they automatically get labelled right-wing. It is just a psychological trick some people play with themselves that allows them to dismiss people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFLX4x6y6r8
Post by: Mandark on July 30, 2019, 11:26:16 PM
When people hold opinions that are against a particular orthodoxy, they automatically get labelled right-wing. It is just a psychological trick some people play with themselves that allows them to dismiss people.
idk sounds like you're the one using a trick to let yourself dismiss people rather than engage with their arguments
Post by: shosta on July 30, 2019, 11:30:16 PM
If I were to describe mister greenwald's ideology it would be "shosta's dad as a libertarian"Speaking of him, when the nuclear first use thing came up tonight at the debate, he said aloud "that's dumb, why would they ask this question, who would defend first use", and I tried explaining that Reagan's Star Wars was actually to defend against the RETALIATORY strike after a US first strike and that we never reciprocated Brezhnev's no-first-use pledge... but we are talking about a Navy man here whose youth was spent bracing for impact playing games of chicken with Soviet ships. The USSR was evil, you could not trust them, etc.
Post by: shosta on July 30, 2019, 11:33:55 PM
However, possibly he is distinguishing 'leftists' from 'liberals' which is a semantic trick some people do I notice.It is not a semantic trick :doge
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 11:34:42 PM
When people hold opinions that are against a particular orthodoxy, they automatically get labelled right-wing. It is just a psychological trick some people play with themselves that allows them to dismiss people.
idk sounds like you're the one using a trick to let yourself dismiss people rather than engage with their arguments
Forget what my intentions are. What you should be concerned with is, is there merit to my argument. So that far-right point I made. I said I thought my aversion to that term was based on sound reasoning. It either is or it isn't.
Have you ever seen me dismiss anyone on here, without actually presenting an argument for why? I always give you a reason right, whether you agree or disagree, I will always do that. I don't just say, 'this is bullshit' just because.
Post by: Mandark on July 30, 2019, 11:43:31 PM
Forget what my intentions are. What you should be concerned with is, is there merit to my argument.
you reiterate this belief a lot but it's wrong and you probably don't even believe it
Post by: Mandark on July 30, 2019, 11:44:43 PM
can't just turn around and cry foul when it's applied the other way
be better
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on July 30, 2019, 11:47:26 PM
he has values consistent with classical liberalismthis statement is next to meaningless
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or the Enlightenmentthis statement is for sure meaningless. At any rate, you need to substantiate/unpack what you mean by these loaded terms. Who, specifically, and if possible, which texts, do you have in mind here by “classical liberal” or “enlightenment”? Both terms are post hoc (for the most part) classifications for a range of thinkers/writers that were anything but univocal in what they were committed to. Further, they’ve shifted meaning and extension throughout their histories. Mandarks point about Mill having no compunctions about participating in the Raj despite being considered the paradigmatic ‘classical liberal’ is a judicious one, and shows up a complicated dialogue within the liberal tradition about empire and subaltern peoples, among other things.
That said, ultimately it just stems from a basic idea: the freedom of the individual. As obviously 'liber' simply mean 'free'. Free man. That's all it is.this obscures two points about the development of liberalism:
i) the meaning of ‘freedom’ and ‘liberty’ are exactly what get contested when people try to push their particular liberalisms. What you probably have in mind is negative liberty but it’s not obvious that this is the only tenable view and the history of liberalism is littered with people with a different conception of ‘liberty’. This sep article (https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/liberalism/) is helpful.
ii) The liberal tradition, through to the start of the First World War, isn’t particularly interested in emphasizing the ‘individual’ as the locus of ‘rights’, at least not over against a larger body of people like ‘society’, or whatever. The distinction between ‘individualism’ and ‘collectivism’ is largely a vestige of 20th century liberals rewriting the historiography of ‘liberalism’ to combat not just fascism and soviet communism but also the laissez faire 19th century liberals whose ‘liberalism’ was seen to have failed to prevent the former systems from rising to power.
There are additional points I’d make here, like how liberals like Bentham, the Mills, Dewey are more than sanguine on the states role in moulding a liberal* citizenry through e.g. public education (which id hope would give the lie to liberalism being allergic to state coercion), or how there are structural/kuhnian losses when we try to prioritize certain ‘liberties’ that we view as safeguarding the individual such that we unintentionally/indirectly infringe ‘individual’s liberties’ somewhere else (a diabolically Hegelian point :snob).
*this use of the term ‘liberal’ is where we still find it resonate with its premodern sense. It’s such an old term that it’s difficult to disentangle without invoking it’s entire history, which is about as old as our recorded political tradition.
Post by: Leadbelly on July 30, 2019, 11:55:57 PM
Forget what my intentions are. What you should be concerned with is, is there merit to my argument.
you reiterate this belief a lot but it's wrong and you probably don't even believe it
Yeah. I recall going through this with you before. There seems to be a bit of a blind spot there. I find it hard to understand why there is disagreement there.
If a serial killer said the sky is blue, it doesn't mean he must be wrong because he is a serial killer. The sky is blue.
Look it is not up to me whether you agree or disagree, it is up to you. And ultimately you either see logic in an argument or you do not. What you shouldn't be doing however is looking for ways to disagree simply because of a person's political leanings or whatever.
And I genuinely believe it because I realised it is actully beneficial to do this for my own intellectual development. It does me no good in the long run to hold to falsehoods. But it is hard to see that sometimes. And we're all ultimately biased creatures which includes myself. It is hard to get around that. When you listen to someone you fundamentally diagree with it is hard to listen. What you tend to do is find ways to dismiss them. Lets say one thing they say is inaccurate. That's enough for us to dismiss everything they say. Because we don't like what they have to say to begin with.
Again though, it's when you realise it is not actually beneficial to yourself that things seem to click. Not that you will be rid of all bias, but probably more aware of you're own infallibility on that matter.
Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2019, 12:01:42 AM
Whereas my posts have devolved into the equivalent of an early 00's WWE crowd yelling "WHAT" after every clause in someone else's monologue.
Post by: shosta on July 31, 2019, 12:02:20 AM
Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2019, 12:02:48 AM
If a serial killer said the sky is blue, it doesn't mean he must be wrong because he is a serial killer.
if you wanted to know what color the sky was, would you try to find it out by going to a prison and asking a serial killer on some mindhunter shit?
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 31, 2019, 12:06:04 AM
Post by: Leadbelly on July 31, 2019, 12:11:41 AM
he has values consistent with classical liberalismthis statement is next to meaninglessQuoteor the Enlightenmentthis statement is for sure meaningless. At any rate, you need to substantiate/unpack what you mean by these loaded terms. Who, specifically, and if possible, which texts, do you have in mind here by “classical liberal” or “enlightenment”? Both terms are post hoc (for the most part) classifications for a range of thinkers/writers that were anything but univocal in what they were committed to. Further, they’ve shifted meaning and extension throughout their histories. Mandarks point about Mill having no compunctions about participating in the Raj despite being considered the paradigmatic ‘classical liberal’ is a judicious one, and shows up a complicated dialogue within the liberal tradition about empire and subaltern peoples, among other things.That said, ultimately it just stems from a basic idea: the freedom of the individual. As obviously 'liber' simply mean 'free'. Free man. That's all it is.this obscures two points about the development of liberalism:
i) the meaning of ‘freedom’ and ‘liberty’ are exactly what get contested when people try to push their particular liberalisms. What you probably have in mind is negative liberty but it’s not obvious that this is the only tenable view and the history of liberalism is littered with people with a different conception of ‘liberty’. This sep article (https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/liberalism/) is helpful.
ii) The liberal tradition, through to the start of the First World War, isn’t particularly interested in emphasizing the ‘individual’ as the locus of ‘rights’, at least not over against a larger body of people like ‘society’, or whatever. The distinction between ‘individualism’ and ‘collectivism’ is largely a vestige of 20th century liberals rewriting the historiography of ‘liberalism’ to combat not just fascism and soviet communism but also the laissez faire 19th century liberals whose ‘liberalism’ was seen to have failed to prevent the former systems from rising to power.
There are additional points I’d make here, like how liberals like Bentham, the Mills, Dewey are more than sanguine on the states role in moulding a liberal* citizenry through e.g. public education (which id hope would give the lie to liberalism being allergic to state coercion), or how there are structural/kuhnian losses when we try to prioritize certain ‘liberties’ that we view as safeguarding the individual such that we unintentionally/indirectly infringe ‘individual’s liberties’ somewhere else (a diabolically Hegelian point :snob).
*this use of the term ‘liberal’ is where we still find it resonate with its premodern sense. It’s such an old term that it’s difficult to disentangle without invoking it’s entire history, which is about as old as our recorded political tradition.
Obviously historically speaking there were a whole variety of views. In that sense it is far more complex. However, if someone was to talk about Enlightenment 'values' obviously they are talking about a certain set of ideas that came from that period, but not necessarily expressed by every thinker. Something like 'freedom of speech' for instance.
And I summarised liberalism into one sentence, which can't be in some sense anything but crude. However, I am talking about the root of liberalism in essence rather than the fruit of all liberal thought, which is an incredibly big and complex thing.
In fact the very first paragraph of the article you posted states this.
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(i) Liberals have typically maintained that humans are naturally in “a State of perfect Freedom to order their Actions…as they think fit…without asking leave, or depending on the Will of any other Man” (Locke, 1960 [1689]: 287). Mill too argued that “the burden of proof is supposed to be with those who are against liberty; who contend for any restriction or prohibition…. The a priori assumption is in favour of freedom…” (1963, vol. 21: 262). Recent liberal thinkers such as as Joel Feinberg (1984: 9), Stanley Benn (1988: 87) and John Rawls (2001: 44, 112) agree. This might be called the Fundamental Liberal Principle (Gaus, 1996: 162–166): freedom is normatively basic, and so the onus of justification is on those who would use coercion to limit freedom. It follows from this that political authority and law must be justified, as they limit the liberty of citizens. Consequently, a central question of liberal political theory is whether political authority can be justified, and if so, how. For this reason, social contract theory, as developed by Thomas Hobbes
The very first paragraph.
I will stress this quote:
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This might be called the Fundamental Liberal Principle
It is the root, the fundamental liberal principle. I am not sure exactly why you are contesting it. Yes, liberalism has morphed and changed, and yes liberalism has different schools of thought. However, the very essence of liberalism is the freedom of the individual and everything stems from there.
Post by: team filler on July 31, 2019, 12:13:34 AM
Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2019, 12:14:12 AM
Post by: agrajag on July 31, 2019, 12:24:58 AM
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Right-wing populism often involves appeals to the "common man" and opposition to immigration.[16][1] Far-right politics sometimes involves anti-immigration and anti-integration stances towards groups that are deemed inferior and undesirable.[17] Concerning the socio-cultural dimension of nationality, culture and migration, one far-right position is the view that certain ethnic, racial or religious groups should stay separate and it is based on the belief that the interests of one's own group should be prioritised.
Post by: agrajag on July 31, 2019, 12:27:38 AM
Post by: Leadbelly on July 31, 2019, 12:38:51 AM
lol come on Shapiro is absolutely a far right ideologue. Even that conservative BBC guy called him out on it. The term has broader use than you're pretending it does.QuoteRight-wing populism often involves appeals to the "common man" and opposition to immigration.[16][1] Far-right politics sometimes involves anti-immigration and anti-integration stances towards groups that are deemed inferior and undesirable.[17] Concerning the socio-cultural dimension of nationality, culture and migration, one far-right position is the view that certain ethnic, racial or religious groups should stay separate and it is based on the belief that the interests of one's own group should be prioritised.
Well, here's the thing: far-right is term used to describe a Nazi or fascist. I don't believe Ben Shapiro is either of those things. It is term that is often used to smear people. I'm sure there is someone on these forums that understands the term in this way.
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The term is often used to describe Nazism,[4] neo-Nazism, fascism, neo-fascism and other ideologies or organizations that feature ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, racist, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[5] These can lead to oppression and violence against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[6][7] nation, state[8], dominant culture or ultraconservative traditional social institutions.[9]p.
Post by: agrajag on July 31, 2019, 12:46:56 AM
Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2019, 01:02:52 AM
So I see how it's advantageous for fringe right-wing outlets (like WorldNetDaily, where Shapiro got his start as a baby polemicist) but not how it's helpful to anyone tryna put together a semi-objective taxonomy of the political scene.
Post by: Leadbelly on July 31, 2019, 01:04:16 AM
you just completely ignored my entire post
Your post isn't very long. It is just you claiming Ben Shapiro is far-right and a quote. Yet eve your quote suggests the same thing I am suggesting, if you read it closely.
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Right-wing populism often involves appeals to the "common man" and opposition to immigration.[16][1] Far-right politics sometimes involves anti-immigration and anti-integration stances towards groups that are deemed inferior and undesirable.[17] Concerning the socio-cultural dimension of nationality, culture and migration, one far-right position is the view that certain ethnic, racial or religious groups should stay separate and it is based on the belief that the interests of one's own group should be prioritised.
1. it speaks of right wing populism which doesn't quite mean the same thing, but can encompass far-right politics. You don't need to be far-right to be a populist, but someone on the far right can be a populist.
2. The part concerning far-right politics actually states it involves a form of supremacism or racism, it just doesn't state definitive labels like Nazi which would obviously encompass those beliefs.
It has nothing to do with Ben Shapiro per se, it is the problem with expanding the definition of far-right -- which seems to be what is happening -- to include more and more viewpoints. Which to my mind is a potentially dangerous thing to do. For a variety of reasons. It is convenient to some for short-term political gain.
Post by: agrajag on July 31, 2019, 01:08:24 AM
Also, language is fluid. Getting flustered over changing word use is like spitting against the wind.
Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2019, 01:10:03 AM
Post by: Leadbelly on July 31, 2019, 01:33:44 AM
I mean how many times do you read, 'that's an alt-right talking point' on RE for instance? Basically what that means is, I am going to dismiss you outright and ignore the point entirely because of its association with the alt-right. It is not useful in the long run.
Another example: one of the reasons the police simply ignored the rape of thousands of girls in the UK by Muslim grooming gangs was because the 'far-right' (genuinely far-right BNP) were using it for political advantage. And they feared giving them ground. Ultimately it is unhelpful to then exapnd the definition to encompass other groups. Or another way of putting it, using a term that they know has a particular connotation to label groups with controversial opinions.
Post by: shosta on July 31, 2019, 01:39:35 AM
[public spending]
- If you earn more, you should pay more in taxes.
- The rich are not taxed highly enough in my country.
- It's shameful that people are allowed to make money simply by virtue of having wealth (stocks, rent, loans).
- Universal healthcare is a good idea.
- We should never privatize education.
- Higher education should be free, just like primary and secondary education are.
[identity issues]
- Racism is alive and well in my country.
- Systemic racism contributes to the continued oppression of racial minorities.
- Undocumented immigrants who have been living in my country should have some kind of legal status.
- Gender is a social construct and people should be free to identify as male or female.
- Human sexual preference is mostly biologically determined.
- Gay marriage should be legal.
- You should not be able to discriminate against someone on the basis of their sexual preference.
- Ditto, but for sexual identity.
- Ditto, but for race or gender.
[women's rights]
- Women have just as much of a right as men to be in the workplace.
- Contraception and abortion procedures should be legal (up to the third trimester).
- Abortion should be legal even in the third trimester.
- The cost of childcare is a major barrier for women to enter the workforce. We need public daycare or daycare vouchers.
- #MeToo is an important cultural movement.
[islam]
- People from majority muslim countries often have certain values which are fundamentally incompatible with western values.
- The refugee crisis in Europe is doing long-term damage to European society.
- Liberals are too quick to stand up for refugees from war-torn countries.
- We do not have a responsibility for fixing these countries or taking their needy.
- Christopher Hitchens was a brilliant debater.
[economy]
- Unions are, for the most part, a good idea.
- Laws that forbid workplaces from forcing employees to join unions are anti-union and should be opposed. [this used to say "Right to Work", which means something different in the UK, sorry]
- The government should provide a federal job guarantee because there is so much unemployment and so much infrastructure and community work that needs to be done.
- BREXIT is not a good idea.
- Free trade is generally good.
- CEOs make way too much money for what they actually do (nothing).
[climate]
- Climate change is real and anthropogenic.
- We should fund green technology.
- We should mobilize the nation to reduce our carbon output by a certain amount by a certain date.
- We should help depopulate Bangladesh into surrounding areas because it's going to be underwater and it's our fault.
[war and peace]
- My country should not sign a no-first-use promise for the use of nuclear weapons (my country should never use nuclear weapons first).
- My country's military protects my freedom.
- Saddam Hussein had to be deposed.
- If my country leaves Afghanistan, the Taliban will come back and my country will be at risk again.
- China is a threat to global peace.
- The US military should stay in South Korea.
- The US should overthrow the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
- My country should maintain its current level of defense spending.
[general liberal issues]
- My country puts far too many people in jail.
- Flagburning is a right.
- The death penalty is wrong and should be abolished.
- Irrespective of Israel's right to defend itself from terrorism, Palestine is illegally occupied.
- The sanctions on Venezuela are needlessly compounding its economic crisis.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
[scientific socialism]
- The industrial processes, especially supply chains with numerous levels of intermediate goods, are becoming increasingly more centrally planned by the firm owners, even and especially when these supply chains span multiple continents. This contradiction within the modern free market economy is empirical evidence that central planning by bureaucratic authorities in the age of computation is a perfectly efficient method of allocating resources.
- Work by economists like Hyman Minsky, Thomas Piketty, and Steve Keen, show rigorously that the existence of a privately owned finance sector produces a structurally unstable economy that is bound to produce serious economic crashes and exponentially greater inequality that is fundamentally inconsistent with democratic values. The nation's largest capital reserves must be publicly owned, from now until forever.
- When a large firm takes one component of its supply chain and moves it overseas from a developed nation to an underdeveloped one, with no change in the skillset of its labor or the efficiency of its capital, but the price of the intermediate good is still reduced by an order of magnitude, this is a deliberate act of exploitation which produces superprofits for the firm and/or superprofits for the consumer in the developed nation (and this surplus is then circulated through the rest of the economy, arbitrarily inflating its standard of living). Third world factory workers must unionize and reverse this "free trade" theft of wealth.
- The media is owned by major financial firms and operated by ruling elites and thus will always filter or distort news to serve its own interests. The public and labor must therefore own an alternative media.
- Post-USSR globalism has made income inequality even worse, both between nations, and within each nation.
- These and other contradictions will eventually lead to the end of capitalism itself.
- The industrial processes, especially supply chains with numerous levels of intermediate goods, are becoming increasingly more centrally planned by the firm owners, even and especially when these supply chains span multiple continents. This contradiction within the modern free market economy is empirical evidence that central planning by bureaucratic authorities in the age of computation is a perfectly efficient method of allocating resources.
- Work by economists like Hyman Minsky, Thomas Piketty, and Steve Keen, show rigorously that the existence of a privately owned finance sector produces a structurally unstable economy that is bound to produce serious economic crashes and exponentially greater inequality that is fundamentally inconsistent with democratic values. The nation's largest capital reserves must be publicly owned, from now until forever.
- When a large firm takes one component of its supply chain and moves it overseas from a developed nation to an underdeveloped one, with no change in the skillset of its labor or the efficiency of its capital, but the price of the intermediate good is still reduced by an order of magnitude, this is a deliberate act of exploitation which produces superprofits for the firm and/or superprofits for the consumer in the developed nation (and this surplus is then circulated through the rest of the economy, arbitrarily inflating its standard of living). Third world factory workers must unionize and reverse this "free trade" theft of wealth.
- The media is owned by major financial firms and operated by ruling elites and thus will always filter or distort news to serve its own interests. The public and labor must therefore own an alternative media.
- Post-USSR globalism has made income inequality even worse, both between nations, and within each nation.
- These and other contradictions will eventually lead to the end of capitalism itself.
[close]
Post by: Leadbelly on July 31, 2019, 01:42:21 AM
Post by: shosta on July 31, 2019, 01:45:12 AM
Post by: Leadbelly on July 31, 2019, 01:45:52 AM
Post by: shosta on July 31, 2019, 01:47:10 AM
Post by: shosta on July 31, 2019, 01:49:28 AM
Post by: Leadbelly on July 31, 2019, 01:50:40 AM
Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2019, 01:52:54 AM
Mandark has been doing this for a full decade that I know of and is still going strong with it. I'm surprised you never get tired mah dude.
More like 15 years at this point, but you can see my posting style decay from Nola-style earnest and detailed careposting to jaded snark. Like watching Louis Wain gradually lose his mind through his cat paintings.
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 31, 2019, 01:53:30 AM
Did you just stay up all night to talk or shift work?
Post by: shosta on July 31, 2019, 01:57:08 AM
Post by: Momo on July 31, 2019, 02:11:32 AM
Post by: Momo on July 31, 2019, 02:14:23 AM
Post by: team filler on July 31, 2019, 02:15:58 AM
Post by: Momo on July 31, 2019, 02:18:45 AM
I'm the only one that matters, bb:heart
Post by: Momo on July 31, 2019, 02:19:54 AM
ok leadbelly... I have made a checklist of statements pertaining to issues both modern and historical and I'd like you to list either "agree" or "disagree" next to each one, with an optional ONE sentence of clarification (please use very sparingly). Within each section, I've tried to keep the point of view consistent. Here they are:I feel like if everyone did this the answers will be 99.9% the same
[public spending]
- If you earn more, you should pay more in taxes.
- The rich are not taxed highly enough in my country.
- It's shameful that people are allowed to make money simply by virtue of having wealth (stocks, rent, loans).
- Universal healthcare is a good idea.
- We should never privatize education.
- Higher education should be free, just like primary and secondary education are.
[identity issues]
- Racism is alive and well in my country.
- Systemic racism contributes to the continued oppression of racial minorities.
- Undocumented immigrants who have been living in my country should have some kind of legal status.
- Gender is a social construct and people should be free to identify as male or female.
- Human sexual preference is mostly biologically determined.
- Gay marriage should be legal.
- You should not be able to discriminate against someone on the basis of their sexual preference.
- Ditto, but for sexual identity.
- Ditto, but for race or gender.
[women's rights]
- Women have just as much of a right as men to be in the workplace.
- Contraception and abortion procedures should be legal (up to the third trimester).
- Abortion should be legal even in the third trimester.
- The cost of childcare is a major barrier for women to enter the workforce. We need public daycare or daycare vouchers.
- #MeToo is an important cultural movement.
[islam]
- People from majority muslim countries often have certain values which are fundamentally incompatible with western values.
- The refugee crisis in Europe is doing long-term damage to European society.
- Liberals are too quick to stand up for refugees from war-torn countries.
- We do not have a responsibility for fixing these countries or taking their needy.
- Christopher Hitchens was a brilliant debater.
[economy]
- Unions are, for the most part, a good idea.
- Laws that forbid workplaces from forcing employees to join unions are anti-union and should be opposed. [this used to say "Right to Work", which means something different in the UK, sorry]
- The government should provide a federal job guarantee because there is so much unemployment and so much infrastructure and community work that needs to be done.
- BREXIT is not a good idea.
- Free trade is generally good.
- CEOs make way too much money for what they actually do (nothing).
[climate]
- Climate change is real and anthropogenic.
- We should fund green technology.
- We should mobilize the nation to reduce our carbon output by a certain amount by a certain date.
- We should help depopulate Bangladesh into surrounding areas because it's going to be underwater and it's our fault.
[war and peace]
- My country should not sign a no-first-use promise for the use of nuclear weapons (my country should never use nuclear weapons first).
- My country's military protects my freedom.
- Saddam Hussein had to be deposed.
- If my country leaves Afghanistan, the Taliban will come back and my country will be at risk again.
- China is a threat to global peace.
- The US military should stay in South Korea.
- The US should overthrow the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
- My country should maintain its current level of defense spending.
[general liberal issues]
- My country puts far too many people in jail.
- Flagburning is a right.
- The death penalty is wrong and should be abolished.
- Irrespective of Israel's right to defend itself from terrorism, Palestine is illegally occupied.
- The sanctions on Venezuela are needlessly compounding its economic crisis.spoiler (click to show/hide)[scientific socialism]
- The industrial processes, especially supply chains with numerous levels of intermediate goods, are becoming increasingly more centrally planned by the firm owners, even and especially when these supply chains span multiple continents. This contradiction within the modern free market economy is empirical evidence that central planning by bureaucratic authorities in the age of computation is a perfectly efficient method of allocating resources.
- Work by economists like Hyman Minsky, Thomas Piketty, and Steve Keen, show rigorously that the existence of a privately owned finance sector produces a structurally unstable economy that is bound to produce serious economic crashes and exponentially greater inequality that is fundamentally inconsistent with democratic values. The nation's largest capital reserves must be publicly owned, from now until forever.
- When a large firm takes one component of its supply chain and moves it overseas from a developed nation to an underdeveloped one, with no change in the skillset of its labor or the efficiency of its capital, but the price of the intermediate good is still reduced by an order of magnitude, this is a deliberate act of exploitation which produces superprofits for the firm and/or superprofits for the consumer in the developed nation (and this surplus is then circulated through the rest of the economy, arbitrarily inflating its standard of living). Third world factory workers must unionize and reverse this "free trade" theft of wealth.
- The media is owned by major financial firms and operated by ruling elites and thus will always filter or distort news to serve its own interests. The public and labor must therefore own an alternative media.
- Post-USSR globalism has made income inequality even worse, both between nations, and within each nation.
- These and other contradictions will eventually lead to the end of capitalism itself.[close]
Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2019, 02:28:50 AM
that was very weird
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 31, 2019, 02:32:01 AM
I feel like if everyone did this the answers will be 99.9% the same
If more than a handful of people did it (outside of the core crew), with the protection of completely anonymity there by completely decoupling their forum image from their answers, I'm not so sure.
There'd probably be some answers of extreme consensus, and some not so.
Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2019, 02:33:56 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 31, 2019, 02:34:39 AM
the only acceptable answer to shosta's impromptu survey is "lol I'm not reading that"
I was hoping he copied it from elsewhere and didn't actually make it.
Cause otherwise I kind of feel bad, not enough to take it serious though
Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2019, 02:38:25 AM
Post by: Momo on July 31, 2019, 02:39:23 AM
momo, remember in the first thread where you'd try to give everyone else guidelines on how they should talk about peterson?kinda like leadbelly, i feel like you guys only engage in mockery when it's better and more useful to just call him on his religious fairy tales, which is why i dont participate in this thread much. I rather read the threads on reddit calling him and others on their bullshit directly.
that was very weird
Post by: shosta on July 31, 2019, 02:40:14 AM
the only acceptable answer to shosta's impromptu survey is "lol I'm not reading that"I know Leadbelly will, though. Look, I just need to know if he's actually a neocon and won't tell us.
I was hoping he copied it from elsewhere and didn't actually make it.
Cause otherwise I kind of feel bad, not enough to take it serious though
:doge
Post by: Momo on July 31, 2019, 02:42:35 AM
I dont think so, I feel we all generally have the same ideals but always need to find an enemy, however small the disagreement sample is. I'll answer it publicly if it gets a ball rolling to prove it lol
I feel like if everyone did this the answers will be 99.9% the same
If more than a handful of people did it (outside of the core crew), with the protection of completely anonymity there by completely decoupling their forum image from their answers, I'm not so sure.
There'd probably be some answers of extreme consensus, and some not so.
Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2019, 02:43:45 AM
kinda like leadbelly, i feel like you guys only engage in mockery when it's better and more useful to just call him on his religious fairy tales, which is why i dont participate in this thread much. I rather read the threads on reddit calling him and others on their bullshit directly.
first, this forum doesn't have an audience to be won over, getting some jokes off with the boys is totally acceptable praxis.
second, a lot of what you objected to in that thread was calling him on his bullshit directly, but you weren't comfortable with those aspects being called bullshit, because either you agreed with it, or the conflict lines reminded you too much of left/right politics to which you're averse.
Post by: shosta on July 31, 2019, 02:43:52 AM
Post by: Momo on July 31, 2019, 02:45:23 AM
receipts.kinda like leadbelly, i feel like you guys only engage in mockery when it's better and more useful to just call him on his religious fairy tales, which is why i dont participate in this thread much. I rather read the threads on reddit calling him and others on their bullshit directly.
first, this forum doesn't have an audience to be won over, getting some jokes off with the boys is totally acceptable praxis.
second, a lot of what you objected to in that thread was calling him on his bullshit directly, but you weren't comfortable with those aspects being called bullshit, because either you agreed with it, or the conflict lines reminded you too much of left/right politics to which you're averse.
EDIT: Actually the last part is probably correct, -'or the conflict lines reminded you too much of left/right politics to which you're averse.'
EDIT2: 'first, this forum doesn't have an audience to be won over' also sorta the issue, we're all a bunch of people with similar ideas, so I dont get why when someone has an abnormal (for the forum norm) take on something why we dont just give them all the slack they need to explain what it is they are on about. Like we know no-one who posts here are distinguished mentally-challenged fellows right? So why treat their ideas as something to be mocked instead of seeing their point of view and either identifying the faulty information/assumptions on their side or potentially re-evaluating assumptions on your own side? No one is trying to red-pill anyone here, but this thread devolves to gotchas the second someone brings up a weird idea. (not talking about the banned people btw, they obviously do not count as coming from a good place)
Post by: Momo on July 31, 2019, 02:48:32 AM
I wrote that for Leadbelly only and do not have the patience to read it multiple times from other peoplebut i already ticked one question
(https://i.imgur.com/9SVGFYL.gif)
Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2019, 02:49:12 AM
4)I'm going to hope you can take my word I can do the same in reverse here, I don't want to cause I didn't intend on spending time debating this garbage, but if you insist I will (much later, probably in a couple of days lol)
that was in march
Post by: Momo on July 31, 2019, 02:55:52 AM
EDIT: Think I fixed it, idk why it happens has for the last 10 years, demi pls.
Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2019, 03:02:52 AM
a lot of what you objected to in that thread was calling him on his bullshit directly, but you weren't comfortable with those aspects being called bullshit, because either you agreed with it, or the conflict lines reminded you too much of left/right politics to which you're averse.
receipts
I think a lot of you don't give Peterson credit when he makes sense and I think some of you are unwilling to call him out for the taking of wisdom from fairy tales bullshit, yes he derives at decent conclusion most of the time, but the source is fucking Hansel and Gretel or bible shit.
Post by: Momo on July 31, 2019, 03:11:45 AM
Post by: shosta on July 31, 2019, 03:12:35 AM
Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2019, 03:18:18 AM
That post is saying 'attack his methodology not his conclusions' when the conclusions are obvious shit like 'work hard, clean your room' etc
Click the link to see your own quote in context, then come back and tell me people were attacking his bland, self-help instructions.
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Narrator: They were not, they were clowning him for his nonsense about Frozen.
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Post by: Momo on July 31, 2019, 03:18:32 AM
Post by: shosta on July 31, 2019, 03:19:24 AM
Quote from: Shostakovich
oh my godQuote from: OblivionShos, I gotta say, I'm a bit disappointed with you. I totally expect someone like etiloiate to dismiss such an article, but not you.Then you've misread me completely. I side with etiolate most of the time he posts.
Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2019, 03:19:26 AM
The only defense I can think of I've ever offered JP and friends is how disingenuous the media are about them, which stems from the same place.
the same thing you've done for alex jones, and when I asked for receipts you said "wow I'm so wounded you wouldn't just take my word for it but give me a couple days" then did nothing
Post by: Momo on July 31, 2019, 03:19:40 AM
Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2019, 03:22:08 AM
KEEP UP
Post by: Momo on July 31, 2019, 03:22:21 AM
If I ever disengage it's because i feel it's pointless and adversarial, I've gone back and forth for pages with Boredfrom and others, where I figure out i'm wrong or both of us moved positions slightly but sometimes I dont feel it's worth my time. I'm consistent when calling out media sources I read for dumb-assery btw.The only defense I can think of I've ever offered JP and friends is how disingenuous the media are about them, which stems from the same place.
the same thing you've done for alex jones, and when I asked for receipts you said "wow I'm so wounded you wouldn't just take my word for it but give me a couple days" then did nothing
Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2019, 03:23:30 AM
Post by: shosta on July 31, 2019, 03:25:01 AM
Quote from: Mandark
Quote from: ShostakovichOk, Mandark. You caught me. I hate women.you keep bringing in stuff that i haven't said
i do think you resent feminists (and this was established outside this thread) tho
Quote from: Mandark
You do resent feminists
Fuck you Mandark, I'm mad all over again :rage :rage :rage
After that post, Etiolate and I started exchanging messages about how much we hate you :maf
Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2019, 03:25:30 AM
I'm consistent when calling out media sources I read for dumb-assery btw.
I don't see why you need to be so closed-minded and dismissive of media sources you disagree with, instead of seeing their point of view and potentially re-examining assumptions on your own side?
Post by: Momo on July 31, 2019, 03:26:20 AM
The quote about peterson links to the original wank dad thread. The quote about alex jones is from a PM, cause you decided you wanted to shift the discussion out of public for whatever reason.I clicked through and i'm more confused now, I guess I have to read a page back or something.
KEEP UP
Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2019, 03:27:16 AM
Fuck you Mandark, I'm mad all over again
IIRC I was going off your "people gotta chill, whipping your dick out in public is fine" stance from the #metoo thread.
Post by: Momo on July 31, 2019, 03:28:29 AM
I specifically do though? I read the report then criticize it, hence the 'I read' in the sentence. :confusedI'm consistent when calling out media sources I read for dumb-assery btw.
I don't see why you need to be so closed-minded and dismissive of media sources you disagree with, instead of seeing their point of view and potentially re-examining assumptions on your own side?
You're doing this thing again, being adversarial for no real reason.
Post by: shosta on July 31, 2019, 03:28:47 AM
omg, did I defend some people in the #metoo thread? :rkellyFuck you Mandark, I'm mad all over again
IIRC I was going off your "people gotta chill, whipping your dick out in public is fine" stance from the #metoo thread.
Don't you dare dig up receipts. I don't want to see them.
Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2019, 03:29:42 AM
I specifically do though? I read the report then criticize it, hence the 'I read' in the sentence.
No you don't, you make blanket statements about "the media" and don't back them up when asked for clarification.
Remember when you said Vox was just like Gawker? ell oh ell
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on July 31, 2019, 03:31:31 AM
jake should have a blogthe blogosphere is dead and 90% of it moved to twitter and this is legit the shittiest thing ever for all the obvious reasons. An appropriate topic for a thread like this to cover is how worthless intellectual discourse is online in the first age where the internet’s everywhere and being used by everyone.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
All of my well actuallys are just regurgitating stuff from blogs that I follow + open source material (like that sep link above) + first impressions (that is to say NOT systematic deep readings) of primary sources. The upshot is pretty much always either ‘this is harder than you think; there are a range of tenable positions, so cool it with the incendiaries’ or ‘you’re being a numbnuts about how you’re interpreting this, you need to be both more critical and more charitable’.
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Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2019, 03:32:00 AM
omg, did I defend some people in the #metoo thread? :rkelly
Don't you dare dig up receipts. I don't want to see them.
OH IT'S TOO LATE
In the context of Terry Crews:
No, it should be considered as an inappropriate drunk groping during a Christmas party. That guy was so trashed everyone kicked him out of the party. That stuff just happens when you're blackout.
You should all click through, some good memories there.
Post by: Momo on July 31, 2019, 03:32:42 AM
They are, how many Carlos Maza articles do you want me to send you? They do not hold themselves to a high standard of journalism, I read Vox but i fact check.I specifically do though? I read the report then criticize it, hence the 'I read' in the sentence.
No you don't, you make blanket statements about "the media" and don't back them up when asked for clarification.
Remember when you said Vox was just like Gawker? ell oh ell
Again what are you doing here? Just trying to be adversarial until I back down as usual cause this isnt worth my time?
Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2019, 03:34:50 AM
edit: or as shosta showed, don't ask for no receipts either. Listen, you're getting receipts.
Post by: shosta on July 31, 2019, 03:36:50 AM
don't ask for receipts if you don't want them.You hand them out anyway :rage
That PD response was so good though :lol
Post by: Momo on July 31, 2019, 03:38:10 AM
Post by: shosta on July 31, 2019, 03:38:50 AM
Quote from: Shostakovich
real story, there was a girl who was interested in me, and I gave her an anthology of Sylvia Plath poems for her birthday, and we straight up just stopped talking:fbm
maybe the canon would have worked better???
Quote
hey Jake, I just read The Genealogy of Morals. Can you... please explain to me how Nietzsche is not an anti-Semitic fascist?make it stop :stahp
Post by: Momo on July 31, 2019, 03:43:37 AM
Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2019, 03:46:25 AM
Post by: Momo on July 31, 2019, 03:48:22 AM
Dude I get that you're conflict-averse and that's just a matter of personal disposition, but you gotta recognize that trying to impose guidelines in the middle of a roast is kinda priggish and not going to get good results.The fact that you see discussing ideas as a roast is a problem to me. I'm not averse to conflict or debate, I'm averse to wasting time.
Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2019, 03:49:22 AM
Dude I get that you're conflict-averse and that's just a matter of personal disposition, but you gotta recognize that trying to impose guidelines in the middle of a roast is kinda priggish and not going to get good results.The fact that you see discussing ideas as a roast is a problem to me.
Well if it's a discussion of ideas, then jumping in to unilaterally dictate which aspects people should criticize would be even worse.
Post by: shosta on July 31, 2019, 03:49:38 AM
Quote
I can't point to an empirical metric. Actually, I can't even think of one that would be meaningfully related. I concede that's usually a good starting point for claiming anything is ever a problem at all.Shostakovich 2018 or Leadbelly 2019?
Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2019, 03:53:08 AM
the blogosphere is dead and 90% of it moved to twitter and this is legit the shittiest thing ever for all the obvious reasons. An appropriate topic for a thread like this to cover is how worthless intellectual discourse is online in the first age where the internet’s everywhere and being used by everyone.
The character limit is understandably the focus of discussions of Twitter, but I think dumping everyone into the same de facto message board has as much to do with anything in both its popularity and toxicity.
Post by: Momo on July 31, 2019, 03:58:57 AM
You're acting like having standards when discussing ideas is somehow a flaw and claiming what's happening in this thread (in general) is criticism. This thread and that one is different. I pop into this thread every couple of months and it's ad hominem and mockery garbage, which is fine, that's what this thread is. Originally when I complained, etoilet seemed to want to discuss his ideas seriously and I was willing to give him the space to do so and to offer criticism where applicable, so my complaints there doesnt apply here.Dude I get that you're conflict-averse and that's just a matter of personal disposition, but you gotta recognize that trying to impose guidelines in the middle of a roast is kinda priggish and not going to get good results.The fact that you see discussing ideas as a roast is a problem to me.
Well if it's a discussion of ideas, then jumping in to unilaterally dictate which aspects people should criticize would be even worse.
Post by: shosta on July 31, 2019, 04:01:34 AM
Post by: Momo on July 31, 2019, 04:14:46 AM
I finally got to the part in the thread where Etiolate flips out and posts pictures of starving kids. What a legendary thread.did you get to the part where he got unbanned and did it again? :lol
Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2019, 04:16:09 AM
Originally when I complained, etoilet seemed to want to discuss his ideas seriously and I was willing to give him the space to do so and to offer criticism where applicable, so my complaints there doesnt apply here.
So now looking back you can see I had a more accurate read on the situation.
Post by: shosta on July 31, 2019, 04:18:02 AM
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45437.msg2429400#msg2429400
Shame on Mandark for not activating his photographic memory and linking us back to his posts from a year ago, and instead using it to besmirch me, an innocent bystander.
Post by: Momo on July 31, 2019, 04:22:50 AM
for sure.Originally when I complained, etoilet seemed to want to discuss his ideas seriously and I was willing to give him the space to do so and to offer criticism where applicable, so my complaints there doesnt apply here.
So now looking back you can see I had a more accurate read on the situation.
I think leadbelly deserves more though, probably chose the wrong thread to try and engage in, but I dont think it goes better anywhere else, although I wish it did and we'd give each other the benefit that years of posting along side each other gives.
Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2019, 04:34:38 AM
Kosma's been around forever and is part of the social fabric here, but we were all able to be pretty direct in telling him he was acting a fool in that Roman Polanski thread. I think the results were both better and funnier because of it.
Post by: Momo on July 31, 2019, 04:42:12 AM
Honestly, I don't think that knowing someone for a long time means you need to consider their ideas more seriously (especially if they have a track record of dopey ideas), or that you necessarily need to handle them with kid gloves.Depends, I don't think he's coming from a disingenuous place, which is why it's worth having him explain further without sending him to the defensive place from the start. I'm always curious when people who have similar beliefs to me come to different conclusions, I feel there's an opportunity to learn or teach.
Post by: Momo on July 31, 2019, 04:43:15 AM
I can't wait till Mandark unveils his own problematic opinion so we can all dogpile him.I'd be in here trying to hold back the flood for Mandark too :mjcry
Like I dunno, if he was like a massive fan of Jane Austen or something.
Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2019, 05:02:56 AM
I don't think he's coming from a disingenuous place
he is
Post by: curly on July 31, 2019, 05:34:25 AM
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don't make the mistake of thinking I want to discuss bullshit like this seriously
my philosophy towards all leadbelly posts
Post by: Oblivion on July 31, 2019, 05:45:15 AM
Quote from: Shostakovichoh my godQuote from: OblivionShos, I gotta say, I'm a bit disappointed with you. I totally expect someone like etiloiate to dismiss such an article, but not you.Then you've misread me completely. I side with etiolate most of the time he posts.
yeah, you were pretty awful, my dude. but i'm glad you (unwillingly) stopped hanging out with a bad crowd :heart
Post by: Oblivion on July 31, 2019, 05:47:02 AM
Post by: shosta on July 31, 2019, 05:50:17 AM
Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2019, 05:52:21 AM
Post by: Momo on July 31, 2019, 06:11:56 AM
shosta is proof that being relentlessly sassed by me builds characterwell, then you have to take responsibility for Kosma too :patel
Post by: BIONIC on July 31, 2019, 07:18:55 AM
ok leadbelly... I have made a checklist of statements pertaining to issues both modern and historical and I'd like you to list either "agree" or "disagree" next to each one, with an optional ONE sentence of clarification (please use very sparingly). Within each section, I've tried to keep the point of view consistent. Here they are:
[public spending]
- If you earn more, you should pay more in taxes.
- The rich are not taxed highly enough in my country.
- It's shameful that people are allowed to make money simply by virtue of having wealth (stocks, rent, loans).
- Universal healthcare is a good idea.
- We should never privatize education.
- Higher education should be free, just like primary and secondary education are.
[identity issues]
- Racism is alive and well in my country.
- Systemic racism contributes to the continued oppression of racial minorities.
- Undocumented immigrants who have been living in my country should have some kind of legal status.
- Gender is a social construct and people should be free to identify as male or female.
- Human sexual preference is mostly biologically determined.
- Gay marriage should be legal.
- You should not be able to discriminate against someone on the basis of their sexual preference.
- Ditto, but for sexual identity.
- Ditto, but for race or gender.
[women's rights]
- Women have just as much of a right as men to be in the workplace.
- Contraception and abortion procedures should be legal (up to the third trimester).
- Abortion should be legal even in the third trimester.
- The cost of childcare is a major barrier for women to enter the workforce. We need public daycare or daycare vouchers.
- #MeToo is an important cultural movement.
[islam]
- People from majority muslim countries often have certain values which are fundamentally incompatible with western values.
- The refugee crisis in Europe is doing long-term damage to European society.
- Liberals are too quick to stand up for refugees from war-torn countries.
- We do not have a responsibility for fixing these countries or taking their needy.
- Christopher Hitchens was a brilliant debater.
[economy]
- Unions are, for the most part, a good idea.
- Laws that forbid workplaces from forcing employees to join unions are anti-union and should be opposed. [this used to say "Right to Work", which means something different in the UK, sorry]
- The government should provide a federal job guarantee because there is so much unemployment and so much infrastructure and community work that needs to be done.
- BREXIT is not a good idea.
- Free trade is generally good.
- CEOs make way too much money for what they actually do (nothing).
[climate]
- Climate change is real and anthropogenic.
- We should fund green technology.
- We should mobilize the nation to reduce our carbon output by a certain amount by a certain date.
- We should help depopulate Bangladesh into surrounding areas because it's going to be underwater and it's our fault.
[war and peace]
- My country should not sign a no-first-use promise for the use of nuclear weapons (my country should never use nuclear weapons first).
- My country's military protects my freedom.
- Saddam Hussein had to be deposed.
- If my country leaves Afghanistan, the Taliban will come back and my country will be at risk again.
- China is a threat to global peace.
- The US military should stay in South Korea.
- The US should overthrow the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
- My country should maintain its current level of defense spending.
[general liberal issues]
- My country puts far too many people in jail.
- Flagburning is a right.
- The death penalty is wrong and should be abolished.
- Irrespective of Israel's right to defend itself from terrorism, Palestine is illegally occupied.
- The sanctions on Venezuela are needlessly compounding its economic crisis.spoiler (click to show/hide)[scientific socialism]
- The industrial processes, especially supply chains with numerous levels of intermediate goods, are becoming increasingly more centrally planned by the firm owners, even and especially when these supply chains span multiple continents. This contradiction within the modern free market economy is empirical evidence that central planning by bureaucratic authorities in the age of computation is a perfectly efficient method of allocating resources.
- Work by economists like Hyman Minsky, Thomas Piketty, and Steve Keen, show rigorously that the existence of a privately owned finance sector produces a structurally unstable economy that is bound to produce serious economic crashes and exponentially greater inequality that is fundamentally inconsistent with democratic values. The nation's largest capital reserves must be publicly owned, from now until forever.
- When a large firm takes one component of its supply chain and moves it overseas from a developed nation to an underdeveloped one, with no change in the skillset of its labor or the efficiency of its capital, but the price of the intermediate good is still reduced by an order of magnitude, this is a deliberate act of exploitation which produces superprofits for the firm and/or superprofits for the consumer in the developed nation (and this surplus is then circulated through the rest of the economy, arbitrarily inflating its standard of living). Third world factory workers must unionize and reverse this "free trade" theft of wealth.
- The media is owned by major financial firms and operated by ruling elites and thus will always filter or distort news to serve its own interests. The public and labor must therefore own an alternative media.
- Post-USSR globalism has made income inequality even worse, both between nations, and within each nation.
- These and other contradictions will eventually lead to the end of capitalism itself.[close]
Get a job, you dumb bitch.
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 31, 2019, 09:27:09 AM
I finally got to the part in the thread where Etiolate flips out and posts pictures of starving kids. What a legendary thread.
Etiolate always reminded people what an incredible intellectual he was and how he was so much better than everyone here, yet he ended up getting triggered off the face of the planet by Mandark, benji and Teen Vogue. And he was still triggered two days later after coming back from his first ban.
:neogaf :sabu :curious :era :mueller :girlaff :woody
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 31, 2019, 11:49:30 AM
Forget what my intentions are. What you should be concerned with is, is there merit to my argument.
you reiterate this belief a lot but it's wrong and you probably don't even believe it
Yeah. I recall going through this with you before. There seems to be a bit of a blind spot there. I find it hard to understand why there is disagreement there.
If a serial killer said the sky is blue, it doesn't mean he must be wrong because he is a serial killer. The sky is blue.
Look it is not up to me whether you agree or disagree, it is up to you. And ultimately you either see logic in an argument or you do not. What you shouldn't be doing however is looking for ways to disagree simply because of a person's political leanings or whatever.
And I genuinely believe it because I realised it is actully beneficial to do this for my own intellectual development. It does me no good in the long run to hold to falsehoods. But it is hard to see that sometimes. And we're all ultimately biased creatures which includes myself. It is hard to get around that. When you listen to someone you fundamentally diagree with it is hard to listen. What you tend to do is find ways to dismiss them. Lets say one thing they say is inaccurate. That's enough for us to dismiss everything they say. Because we don't like what they have to say to begin with.
Again though, it's when you realise it is not actually beneficial to yourself that things seem to click. Not that you will be rid of all bias, but probably more aware of you're own infallibility on that matter.
you gotta admit, ted bundy had great hair
Post by: agrajag on July 31, 2019, 01:03:52 PM
Post by: agrajag on July 31, 2019, 01:08:11 PM
omg, did I defend some people in the #metoo thread? :rkellyFuck you Mandark, I'm mad all over again
IIRC I was going off your "people gotta chill, whipping your dick out in public is fine" stance from the #metoo thread.
Don't you dare dig up receipts. I don't want to see them.
you seem malleable as fuck, I hope you never get approached by some cult like Tyler did
Post by: Leadbelly on July 31, 2019, 01:16:55 PM
I mean what the fuck do you think I would get out of that? I am on some secret covert mission or something to convert you to conservatism? This is as bad as ERA seriously. I
Okay, Momo was right, you shouldn't engage with people in here, because they can't thnk outside of their own bubble. And you really can't. Like for instance the nonsense about the term far-right. And I am thinking maybe you don't understand that point because of the Eurocentric angle of it that you may not be aware of. I also think you're not trying to understand. And that is the thing.
We are in a time now in Europe where the public are on the move politically. More people are moving to the right. Right wing populism hasn't won, but it is clear it has made huge gains. There has been a trend however to just label these groups far-right. And in turn what happens is the issues that are the reason the public are on the move are not adequately being addressed. I am of the opinion that is dangerous.
I also linked a video which I guess did not get listened to, or wasn't taken seriously. Either way all I really wanted you to acknowledge was that there is a sense of logic in what is being said. What it is not for instance, is some secret covert plan to water down the term far-right so that I can express my real views in public. And now I am starting to believe that is something you people believe.
There is a sense of logic in that video. However, it is Eurocentric which is why I explained that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWbEhJhVoMs
People say I am being defensive, which I am. When people post in a way that can be perceived as an attack, people post defensively. However, what I am made aware of now, is in fact you are all posting defensively. Which is why you respond to me the way you do. You can't get over your own bias enough to actually genuinely engage.
So I will leave you to it in this thread.
Post by: Oblivion on July 31, 2019, 01:23:46 PM
That's not true. I started defecting from et around the beginning of May and, while I don't want to overstate my role here, I'm pretty sure him losing his only toady in that thread tilted him right over the edge just two weeks later.
i'm actually curious. at what point did you realize etoilet wasn''t a good role model anymore?
Post by: benjipwns on July 31, 2019, 01:27:11 PM
you seem malleable as fuck, I hope you never get approached by some cult like Tyler didhe already registered as a member of the Libertarian Party breh
Post by: team filler on July 31, 2019, 01:29:08 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on July 31, 2019, 01:29:42 PM
Post by: BisMarckie on July 31, 2019, 01:30:27 PM
He provided us with hours of entertainment for free :tocry
Post by: agrajag on July 31, 2019, 01:48:53 PM
I'm sort of sad I missed reactionary shosta, this is why you should never take a hiatus from the bore :mjcry
Keep in mind, this was after he built up his reputation as "Kristoffer the one non-reactionary and even-keeled Era mod."
Post by: Leadbelly on July 31, 2019, 01:49:01 PM
Holy crap, I forgot that we've already been here with Leadbelly, the furtive pygmy, so easily forgotten.
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45437.msg2429400#msg2429400
Shame on Mandark for not activating his photographic memory and linking us back to his posts from a year ago, and instead using it to besmirch me, an innocent bystander.
Also not sure what point is being made here. Reading back my own post, there is a sense of logic in what I am saying is there not? You don't have to agree with the post, but it is not about that, it is whether the post comes from a point of logic enough that there is reason to engage. I think it does, but then I would say that. lol
Edit: It also a marxist critique of identity politics which I thought you wanted to speak about Marxism Shosta? there you go.
Post by: shosta on July 31, 2019, 02:44:05 PM
I'm sort of sad I missed reactionary shosta, this is why you should never take a hiatus from the bore :mjcryIt happens to the best of us. Just look at Dasha. (Sailor Socialism, why have you forsaken us? :rkelly)
Post by: Leadbelly on July 31, 2019, 02:59:02 PM
Post by: shosta on July 31, 2019, 03:05:12 PM
i'm actually curious. at what point did you realize etoilet wasn''t a good role model anymore?Never, I still love Daddy.
As for Peterson, it was after getting owned in April (?) and then I went to jail briefly, and when I got out I think a lot of the chaos dragons in my life were gone besides my dad still being homeless in the Bay area. I noticed Peterson hadn't done anything interesting since his Bible lectures and all he was doing was getting distracted by the culture war.
I know you might say "that's all he cares about!", but it's not. He scratches the surface of a lot of interesting trains of thought that could go very far if he was just slightly less dumb about everything. For instance I think this idea that religious behavior is under-explained is absolutely true, the mind really does tend to organize beliefs in a specific way and people behave in an even more universal way after discovering their so-called church, and I think relating this to political or more general ethical behavior is totally worth studying. Also J. P. introduced me to Jonathan Haidt's empirical research on universal morality. I 100% was not a moral absolutist before, which is very typical for a godless liberal on the west coast. Of course, all these things I'm giving him points for are not to exclude his many obvious failings which I don't have to recount here.
So it's not like I went on some crazy trip and snapped out of it at the end, I got what I needed at the time and rounded myself out in ways that were fundamentally missing before, and also hit the extremely shallow bottom of JPism. I think he recorded a video getting super mad about Moana and that's when I was like, yeah, this guy has issues with women...
Post by: shosta on July 31, 2019, 03:14:02 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on July 31, 2019, 03:29:17 PM
Lol why is Leadbelly so fucking triggered
I'm not triggered, I'm just annoyed at people not actually engaging seriously. It just makes the effort in responding a complete waste of time. It comes across as if reactionary. Where as reactionaries push back against progressive change, it is a percieved push back against unorthodox thought.
Post by: shosta on July 31, 2019, 03:31:15 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on July 31, 2019, 03:38:06 PM
then why won't you complete my survey
Well, I was going to, but then I read the thread and shit like this is said:
Quotedon't make the mistake of thinking I want to discuss bullshit like this seriously
my philosophy towards all leadbelly posts
Which is fine, but then why would I waste my effort engaging exactly? I mean, you linked back to an older post of mine. Now, I'll ask a question: regardless of what you think of that post, does it seem like thought went into that post, or is it just incoherent garbage that makes no sense? I put it to you that it is a reasoned argument. And if you think the same, then you will understand why taking the time to post isn't worth it.
Post by: shosta on July 31, 2019, 03:40:38 PM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on July 31, 2019, 03:40:50 PM
Quote from: Leadbelly link=topic=45681.msg2674257#msg2674257
if someone was to talk about Enlightenment 'values' obviously they are talking about a certain set of ideas that came from that period, but not necessarily expressed by every thinker. Something like 'freedom of speech' for instance.you were employing the phrase ‘enlightenment values’ seemingly to refer to some kind of coherent political program. If that’s true, and you’re justified in using the phrase that way, then there must be a way of distinguishing what counts as a legitimate ‘enlightenment value’ and what doesn’t. So why does the phrase signify something like ‘freedom of speech’ but not ‘providential deism’ when the latter was held by at least as many people in the 18th century and is probably more characteristic of the period? My suspicion is that you’re probably better off just saying “he values freedom of speech” or whatever; ‘enlightenment values’ sounds sexier, to be sure, but only because the term ‘enlightenment’ has been politicized so much by people with no interest in reading the period on its own terms -Pinker is a pretty great example of this.
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It is the root, the fundamental liberal principle. I am not sure exactly why you are contesting it. Yes, liberalism has morphed and changed, and yes liberalism has different schools of thought. However, the very essence of liberalism is the freedom of the individual and everything stems from there.the linked article does not say this; this is not the authors’ interpretation of liberalism. What they claim is that ‘Liberalism’ is best understood as the family of ideas that holds that restrictions on liberty must be justified.
All ‘Liberalism’, broadly speaking, entails is a commitment to a certain primacy for liberty/freedom as political values. It’s an open question how exactly that cashes out. Your assuming that ‘liberty’ just obviously means ‘liberty of the individual’ begs the question against the part of the liberal tradition that thought/thinks that liberty can inhere in groups of people, or things, like institutions. If you’re thinking to yourself, “now wait a minute, jake. Groups of people are just sums of individuals and saying that institutions are free just means that the individuals that take part in them are free, so liberty always terminates at the individual level“ then I have two responses: 1. You’re begging the question again, this time in social ontological terms. 2. Even ignoring 1., you’d be right, but only trivially so. It still hasn’t been shown why ‘individual liberty’ is more important or a more useful expression than ‘the liberty of sums of individuals’ or ‘the liberty of individuals taking part in institutions’. And if now you’re thinking that the above point is stupid and a waste of time, you’d be right again, because the strict dichotomy individualism-collectivism is a red herring and only makes sense in the context of Cold War polemics.
Post by: agrajag on July 31, 2019, 03:40:51 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on July 31, 2019, 03:55:40 PM
It seemed like you put a lot of thought but your priors assumptions were wrong and as mandark patiently explained, you misunderstood the 60s.
It was a while ago, so you would have to expain it in detail then I could respond. However, I think, which I always think actually with Mandark, but could be wrong, and stand to be corrected, that he was missing the point. The point I was really making is the universalist approach to left-wing politics in the past was more effective. The idea of uniting under common cause. I also put it to him that this is actually the real way to change. And as point of example I referenced how Martin Luther King maybe wasn't assassinated because of his civil rights work, but rather when he switched his attention from race to class. Rather it is class solidarity that the establishment fears. And that what identity politics does (modern day identity politics) and intersectionality is fragment us into greivance groups. And this in turn makes real progress as in a real radical shift in the strucutres of government harder to acheive.
That is not to say identity politics of the 60s was not needed. That wasn't the point of the argument. The point of the argument was to say that marxism and the left wing politics of the past understood the importance of class solidarity and thus seeked a universalist approach. Or another way of putting it, common cause to mobilise.
Post by: Leadbelly on July 31, 2019, 04:02:44 PM
Post by: Momo on July 31, 2019, 04:08:59 PM
tbh Momo, it's pretty disingenuous to say we are "just looking for enemies" when people routinely pop in here to defend the likes of Alex Jones and other chuds. But yeah, everyone totally has the same views about everything.I just want you guys to get along :trumps
Post by: agrajag on July 31, 2019, 04:09:59 PM
:yeshrug
Post by: Leadbelly on July 31, 2019, 04:13:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=7fhwTq21KRw
Post by: Momo on July 31, 2019, 04:15:16 PM
Shosta's turn around was something to see. Dude went from Squiddy tier to legitimately fun shitposter.you guys are late to the party, I liked shosta from day 1 :quark
Post by: Momo on July 31, 2019, 04:36:24 PM
I get along with very few people here and on a very narrow selection of subjectsIt's easier if you delete politics from your brain, I like hating people, like transhuman, for petty reasons like being Australian better :ohyeah
:yeshrug
Post by: El Babua on July 31, 2019, 04:53:47 PM
filler found new dad
not as entertaining imo. He feels more like the 20 year old cousin that hangs out with you even though you're like 13. :doge
Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2019, 05:42:23 PM
As for Peterson, it was after getting owned in April (?) and then I went to jail briefly
I think this is the first time I roasted someone so bad on the forum that they went to jail.
I'm sorry it had to be you, kid, but you're stronger for it now.
Post by: Leadbelly on July 31, 2019, 06:31:23 PM
That is not to say identity politics of the 60s was not needed. That wasn't the point of the argument. The point of the argument was to say that marxism and the left wing politics of the past understood the importance of class solidarity and thus seeked a universalist approach. Or another way of putting it, common cause to mobilise.
We touched on this in the LF thread a while back.
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45863.msg2658498#msg2658498
Just to be clear, when I speak about identity poilitics it is very much just an encapsulation of a certain ideological perspective. So for instance the Civil Rights Movement is not the identity politics of today. So one apsect which seems regressive, to some may seem progressive, is this greater acceptance of fragility. Ideas that seem to suggest to people that words are violence. And that we need some kind of psychic comfort to shield ourselves from the cutting words that wound so deep as to traumatise us. This totally destroys any notion of the robust individual who is capable of navigating public life. As I mentioned in a much earlier post, a victim is not an actor. And certainly can't be an actor on the world stage. A victim is a subject who is acted upon. Marxism at its core was revolutionary. Yet victimhood seems like the only currency in town at the moment. And weirdly it is a calling upon the state and instituations for protection. And in turn the state now panders to these grievance groups. And so when the state panders to you, you know you're not revolting. You are not revolting. And that might be just fine, and in some sense that is progress. fine. But to be clear you are not revolting. Marxism is dead. And identity politics is the only game in town.
Social justice is not the issue for me, the issue is the ideological base in which identity politics stands. And actually it almost seems like what the individual groups are supposed to be united around, but for various reasons ends up eating itself, is feminism. Destroying the patriarchy solves the problem of everything somehow. And that is an inadequate social theory in my mind to map on to every grievance. Grievances should be dealt with in a objective manner where if there is a problem you look to find a objective cause. However, most shit ends up nebulous and is just mapped on to a narrative.
Also, on the subject of universalism I like Kmele Foster because he gives a black perspective on it. I find this helpful in me having a more complete picture on the American dynamic of identity politics and the role it should and should not have on public discourse.
https://soundcloud.com/spikedonline/kmele-foster-race-abolitionist
Post by: Oblivion on July 31, 2019, 07:04:57 PM
That is not to say identity politics of the 60s was not needed. That wasn't the point of the argument. The point of the argument was to say that marxism and the left wing politics of the past understood the importance of class solidarity and thus seeked a universalist approach. Or another way of putting it, common cause to mobilise.
We touched on this in the LF thread a while back.
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45863.msg2658498#msg2658498
. So one apsect which seems regressive, to some may seem progressive, is this greater acceptance of fragility. Ideas that seem to suggest to people that words are violence. And that we need some kind of psychic comfort to shield ourselves from the cutting words that wound so deep as to traumatise us. This totally destroys any notion of the robust individual who is capable of navigating public life.
weren't you just bitching about lefties being too mean to ben shapiro by calling him 'far right'?
Post by: benjipwns on July 31, 2019, 07:10:52 PM
weren't you just bitching about lefties being too mean to ben shapiro by calling him 'far right'?came from cindi posts and read this as "fat right"
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 31, 2019, 07:13:15 PM
weren't you just bitching about lefties being too mean to ben shapiro by calling him 'far right'?came from cindi posts and read this as "fat right"
god bless these hamburgers
Post by: shosta on July 31, 2019, 07:22:25 PM
It was a while ago, so you would have to expain it in detail then I could respond. However, I think, which I always think actually with Mandark, but could be wrong, and stand to be corrected, that he was missing the point. The point I was really making is the universalist approach to left-wing politics in the past was more effective. The idea of uniting under common cause. I also put it to him that this is actually the real way to change. And as point of example I referenced how Martin Luther King maybe wasn't assassinated because of his civil rights work, but rather when he switched his attention from race to class. Rather it is class solidarity that the establishment fears. And that what identity politics does (modern day identity politics) and intersectionality is fragment us into greivance groups. And this in turn makes real progress as in a real radical shift in the strucutres of government harder to acheive.So, I watched that Chomsky video you sent me and you seem to misunderstand it completely. He's saying that Americans have sanitized the civil rights movement of its class element. He is saying that it enjoyed broad popularity when the subject was equal treatment under the law and anti-discrimination but was not popular when MLK Jr. was advocating for economic justice. That ran up against the ruling power structure and so he was targeted by the FBI as a communist sympathizer in addition to being a radical organizer.
That is not to say identity politics of the 60s was not needed. That wasn't the point of the argument. The point of the argument was to say that marxism and the left wing politics of the past understood the importance of class solidarity and thus seeked a universalist approach. Or another way of putting it, common cause to mobilise.
Let's be exceptionally clear about this next point: MLK Jr. was murdered by James Earl Ray because he was advocating for desegregation and the rights of African-Americans. That's it. James Earl Ray was not some secret agent of the establishment flying a false flag of racism to suppress a socialist. He was a segregationist and George Wallace supporter. He hated black black people and wanted to move to apartheid Rhodesia. There is no conspiracy here.
Concerning your broader point, I see no evidence that left identity politics is some trick by the ruling class to fracture the working class. Right identity politics certainly is used that way. But what you call left identity politics is usually the culmination of some long history of reaction against repression. The gay rights movement is the counterweight to decades of anti-gay repression. Black civil rights is a 400 year old story in the US. The Chicano movement encompassed exploitation of the latino working class and the treatment of Mexican-Americans in the entire society. I'm actually glad you brought up the 60s because in a big way, that whole decade was the height of the American left
In the past, whenever a subject like this came up, I had a friend who used to say "why do we have to choose between class issues and identity issues? Why not do both?" It's a false choice. Do both.
Post by: shosta on July 31, 2019, 07:30:35 PM
Marxism is dead. And identity politics is the only game in town.I think you're operating off of way too many strawmans. You have spent too much time on the internet, or twitter, or whatever. Socialism is poppin. Your party leader is Jeremy Corbyn. In the last US election a socialist got 40% of the primary vote. You're living on a different planet if you don't see this.
A victim is a subject who is acted upon. Marxism at its core was revolutionary. Yet victimhood seems like the only currency in town at the moment. And weirdly it is a calling upon the state and instituations for protection. And in turn the state now panders to these grievance groups. And so when the state panders to you, you know you're not revolting. You are not revolting. And that might be just fine, and in some sense that is progress. fine. But to be clear you are not revolting.This is just a semantic game now. Besides, the very core grievance of Marxism is that the masses are the victims of surplus exploitation.
Grievances should be dealt with in a objective manner where if there is a problem you look to find a objective cause. However, most shit ends up nebulous and is just mapped on to a narrative.This is exactly what you are doing! Look, I see what the whole problem is. Get out and get involved and do stuff. Stop worrying that Anita Sarkeesian gets retweets. Don't worry about the people you think are "doing it wrong". Just advocate for the thing you think is right. No whining.
Post by: Oblivion on July 31, 2019, 07:58:12 PM
which in itself is even more hilarious cause mlk also supported affirmative action and reparations, both things leadbelly more than likely despises.
Post by: Leadbelly on July 31, 2019, 10:52:03 PM
It was a while ago, so you would have to expain it in detail then I could respond. However, I think, which I always think actually with Mandark, but could be wrong, and stand to be corrected, that he was missing the point. The point I was really making is the universalist approach to left-wing politics in the past was more effective. The idea of uniting under common cause. I also put it to him that this is actually the real way to change. And as point of example I referenced how Martin Luther King maybe wasn't assassinated because of his civil rights work, but rather when he switched his attention from race to class. Rather it is class solidarity that the establishment fears. And that what identity politics does (modern day identity politics) and intersectionality is fragment us into greivance groups. And this in turn makes real progress as in a real radical shift in the strucutres of government harder to acheive.So, I watched that Chomsky video you sent me and you seem to misunderstand it completely. He's saying that Americans have sanitized the civil rights movement of its class element. He is saying that it enjoyed broad popularity when the subject was equal treatment under the law and anti-discrimination but was not popular when MLK Jr. was advocating for economic justice. That ran up against the ruling power structure and so he was targeted by the FBI as a communist sympathizer in addition to being a radical organizer.
That is not to say identity politics of the 60s was not needed. That wasn't the point of the argument. The point of the argument was to say that marxism and the left wing politics of the past understood the importance of class solidarity and thus seeked a universalist approach. Or another way of putting it, common cause to mobilise.
Let's be exceptionally clear about this next point: MLK Jr. was murdered by James Earl Ray because he was advocating for desegregation and the rights of African-Americans. That's it. James Earl Ray was not some secret agent of the establishment flying a false flag of racism to suppress a socialist. He was a segregationist and George Wallace supporter. He hated black black people and wanted to move to apartheid Rhodesia. There is no conspiracy here.
Concerning your broader point, I see no evidence that left identity politics is some trick by the ruling class to fracture the working class. Right identity politics certainly is used that way. But what you call left identity politics is usually the culmination of some long history of reaction against repression. The gay rights movement is the counterweight to decades of anti-gay repression. Black civil rights is a 400 year old story in the US. The Chicano movement encompassed exploitation of the latino working class and the treatment of Mexican-Americans in the entire society. I'm actually glad you brought up the 60s because in a big way, that whole decade was the height of the American leftand American maoism. But - and I tried to tell you this before - it was also the height of identity politics. You think it was different back then. It was, but not because they "universalized" it by reducing the identity component. It was complete because it embraced class issues in addition to the identity issues. Modern identity politics is incomplete without those same class issues.
In the past, whenever a subject like this came up, I had a friend who used to say "why do we have to choose between class issues and identity issues? Why not do both?" It's a false choice. Do both.
It is possible he was mentioning he was assassinted during that time in passing rather than suggesting it was the reason.
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Remember King was assassinated when attending a sanitation strike
Which can be interpreted obviously as suggesting he may have been assassinated for this reason. But maybe he was just pointing out that was the period he was assassinated. I will say though, I never actuually said he was or wasn't orignally:
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In terms of Martin Luther King, his attention moved from race to class. This was around the time he was assassinated. Some speculate that was why he was assassinated. Organising around class was seen as a much greater danger
I simply said some speculate, which they do. For instance:
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It was the issues of poverty, class and anti-war that were pushing Dr. King further in the direction of Malcolm X. For this reason, he was murdered..
https://www.marxist.com/the-death-of-martin-luther-king.htm
That said, the point I was making is that older lefties understand the importance of class solidarity. That was the argument I was making. That real change is mroe likely through organising under class than race.
And I never said identity politics is a trick by the establishment. I never suggested this at all.
Post by: Leadbelly on July 31, 2019, 11:17:08 PM
leadbelly's doing what i see a lot conservative/idw folk do where they try to downplay the identity politics part of the civil rights movement, which is generally the opposite of what you see taught in most classrooms (where they downplay the economics). it's a really tricky act to pull because it would be idiotic to deny identity played a role (after all, white people had no problem voting, the VRA was designed specifically for black people), so they grudgingly concede that point. But then argue that for whatever reason, up until 1965 it was JUUUUUUUUST the 'right' amount of identity politics, but all the OTHER idpol that happened afterwards was a great perversion of mlk's dream.
which in itself is even more hilarious cause mlk also supported affirmative action and reparations, both things leadbelly more than likely despises.
You haven't read my argument, what you are doing, again, is reading between the lines. You are trying to figure my motives out, rather than addressing my ideas. And I have said time and time again, an argument stands on its own merits. And what is meant by that is, don't attack the opponent attack the argument.
It has absolutely nothing to do with downplaying the civil rights movement.
Post by: Leadbelly on July 31, 2019, 11:23:59 PM
Just to be clear, when I speak about identity poilitics it is very much just an encapsulation of a certain ideological perspective. So for instance the Civil Rights Movement is not the identity politics of today. So one apsect which seems regressive, to some may seem progressive, is this greater acceptance of fragility. Ideas that seem to suggest to people that words are violence. And that we need some kind of psychic comfort to shield ourselves from the cutting words that wound so deep as to traumatise us. This totally destroys any notion of the robust individual who is capable of navigating public life. As I mentioned in a much earlier post, a victim is not an actor. And certainly can't be an actor on the world stage. A victim is a subject who is acted upon. Marxism at its core was revolutionary. Yet victimhood seems like the only currency in town at the moment. And weirdly it is a calling upon the state and instituations for protection. And in turn the state now panders to these grievance groups. And so when the state panders to you, you know you're not revolting. You are not revolting. And that might be just fine, and in some sense that is progress. fine. But to be clear you are not revolting. Marxism is dead. And identity politics is the only game in town.
Social justice is not the issue for me, the issue is the ideological base in which identity politics stands. And actually it almost seems like what the individual groups are supposed to be united around, but for various reasons ends up eating itself, is feminism. Destroying the patriarchy solves the problem of everything somehow. And that is an inadequate social theory in my mind to map on to every grievance. Grievances should be dealt with in a objective manner where if there is a problem you look to find a objective cause. However, most shit ends up nebulous and is just mapped on to a narrative.
Also, on the subject of universalism I like Kmele Foster because he gives a black perspective on it. I find this helpful in me having a more complete picture on the American dynamic of identity politics and the role it should and should not have on public discourse.
I honestly don't know where to start with all these assumptions and poo-poohs. You uphold marxist class action and analysis as an imperative. At the same time, you decry feminism as a killer of all social movements, seemingly denying that marxism's founders went out of their way to develop theories of exploitation of women as a central point in current and past class conflict (https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/index.htm). Socialist rhetoric has since the very beginning relied on victimhood narratives (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Internationale#Original_lyrics) to make a point as shosta said. If you think that the only worthwhile method of praxis in social justice is literal revolution, then...
I guess it's off for you to lend a hand in protracted people's war in the philippines then? :salute :doge
There are apsects of 1st and 2nd wave feminism that I like. No problem with 'feminism' per se. A problem with intersectionality, yes.
This is so tedious because I can tell you are googling desperately looking for things to get me on. I wish people would try to understand my arguments seriously and rebutt them. Obviously Marxism relies on grievance as a means to whip up support. There is a difference between genuine grievance and fostering a victimhood mentality.
It's just...
Post by: Leadbelly on July 31, 2019, 11:42:02 PM
I guess it's off for you to lend a hand in protracted people's war in the philippines then? :salute :doge
I will also mention this is kind of funny, because according to Oblivion my motive as a conservative is to downplay the civil rights by emphasising class struggle. Because like that is a typical argument a conservative would make... or something.
Revolution in 2019 isn't going to happen. Marxism is dead, and I imagine will never be revived. However, pushing for a change of some kind is still what needs to happen. We are only going to achieve that if we have a common cause to mobilise under. And I don't think it needs violent revolution, it just needs threat of mobilising on the streets. However, the economic crisis back in 2008 was squandered.
Post by: Leadbelly on July 31, 2019, 11:46:05 PM
Yeah I'm the one googling desperately, as the one in this conversation jumping across aisles to construct ahistoric versions of marxism, of feminism, of liberalism that happen to support his strong arguments like how " actually it almost seems like" feminism is tanking global social movements for equality.
because formulating an actual argument suggests googling? I present an actual argument (lol). And what some of you do as a respone is shit like, 'what you really mean...' and, this thing you said here is wrong, because, [link to website I just googled].
please...
Post by: Leadbelly on July 31, 2019, 11:47:37 PM
Calling Marxism dead throws a blanket "fuck you" to every left movement and government in the world inspired by it which is one of the bolder takes on revisionism I've ever seen.
So you think there is going to be a Marxist overthrow of the government any time soon then? Okay.
Post by: Oblivion on July 31, 2019, 11:50:20 PM
I guess it's off for you to lend a hand in protracted people's war in the philippines then? :salute :doge
I will also mention this is kind of funny, because according to Oblivion my motive as a conservative is to downplay the civil rights by emphasising class struggle. Because like that is a typical argument a conservative would make... or something.
actually, it IS something that conservatives do. both typical standard conservatives who want to sow discord, but also from rightwing marxists who despise idpol just as much as any MAGA chud.
Leadbelly, i have to ask. i know you're obsessed with edge cases of sjw 'victimization' like trigger warnings or sensitivity training or whatever, but what are your thoughts on stuff like combating police brutality, mass incarceration, restoring voting rights to minorities?
and while we're at it, since you keep claiming that i'm criticizing you for things you don't actually believe in, what ARE your opinions on reparations and affirmative action?
Post by: Leadbelly on July 31, 2019, 11:55:06 PM
I guess it's off for you to lend a hand in protracted people's war in the philippines then? :salute :doge
I will also mention this is kind of funny, because according to Oblivion my motive as a conservative is to downplay the civil rights by emphasising class struggle. Because like that is a typical argument a conservative would make... or something.
actually, it IS something that conservatives do. both typical standard conservatives who want to sow discord, but also from rightwing marxists who despise idpol just as much as any MAGA chud.
Leadbelly, i have to ask. i know you're obsessed with edge cases of sjw 'victimization' like trigger warnings or sensitivity training or whatever, but what are your thoughts on stuff like combating police brutality, mass incarceration, restoring voting rights to minorities?
and while we're at it, since you keep claiming that i'm criticizing you for things you don't actually believe in, what ARE your opinions on reparations and affirmative action?
You know another weird thing aabout you guys. You go all conspiratorial about my motives as if a I am a covert agent trying to sway the bore (as if like the bore is where I need to be) but then trust me to be honest about your purity tests. Which one is it?
Post by: Oblivion on July 31, 2019, 11:57:00 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on August 01, 2019, 12:00:25 AM
Dude, i'm only going by what i've seen of your posts. if i'm mistaken, go ahead and explain your damn positions and i'll happily reevaluate my previous claims about you.
Your claims though is that I am a secret conservative. And you are giving me questions to prove whether I am a secret conservative. Do you not see the twisted logic?
And one thing you are right about. I don't think affirmative action is a good thing. I just don't. Yet, you will now use that to prove I am a secret conservative. Yet I am openly admitting it...
Post by: curly on August 01, 2019, 12:05:05 AM
Post by: Leadbelly on August 01, 2019, 12:06:14 AM
Where on the spectrum do I fit? :thinking
My views don't just fit neatly into a box. That isn't so uncommon.
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 01, 2019, 12:08:11 AM
I have no issue with gay rights. I am pro choice.do this
Where on the spectrum do I fit? :thinking
My views don't just fit neatly into a box. That isn't so uncommon.
https://8values.github.io/
Post by: curly on August 01, 2019, 12:08:23 AM
I have no issue with gay rights. I am pro choice.
Where on the spectrum do I fit? :thinking
My views don't just fit neatly into a box. That isn't so uncommon.
damn bro you're blowing my fucking mind
Post by: Leadbelly on August 01, 2019, 12:09:00 AM
I don't think you're a covert agent I just think your ideas are confused and your fetishism of rational debate is as much about staking out an identity as anyone (God I hate how the other side has no interest in logic, how they never engage in good faith). You have a child's understanding of ideas like liberalism and want us to engage with your childish caricatures of them which is tiresome as fuck.Which you personally don't I might add. Funny that.
Post by: shosta on August 01, 2019, 12:14:24 AM
I simply said some speculate, which they do.:beli
That said, the point I was making is that older lefties understand the importance of class solidarity. That was the argument I was making. That real change is mroe likely through organising under class than race.Who is telling you to choose?
And I never said identity politics is a trick by the establishment. I never suggested this at all.Looking back, I misread something. My bad. Your actual position is that identity issues are not inclusive enough to get people who are not part of that identity on board so they fracture and divide. But genosse, this is still a false choice. Look at gay rights. Straight people made the choice to stand up for gay rights because they made a moral calculation to do so. Also, gay people organized together, along with their allies, for those rights, to solve that issue specific to their collective experience. An identity issue can only divide a class if people within that class choose to become enemies to the group in question whether than allies. So it reduces, again, to the simple question of whether you are an ally (on that issue) or not.
There is good news: we live in democracies (modulo the factor of corporate influence). When you disagree with some issue, you vote against it. When you agree, you vote for it. If this hypothetical working class bloke you are thinking of was just about to reign in the finance sector, the tax evaders, and the rentiers, but the issue of, say, legitimizing sodomy turned him off, that says infinitely more about him and his alleged commitment to class issues than it does those who would put forth the identity issue in question.
I will grant you that this does apply in reverse, too. There are many times where people have had to choose whether to put aside their identity issues to advocate class ones when voting for
Post by: Leadbelly on August 01, 2019, 12:16:32 AM
because formulating an actual argument suggests googling? I present an actual argument (lol). And what some of you do as a respone is shit like, 'what you really mean...' and, this thing you said here is wrong, because, [link to website I just googled].
please...
You don't really have an argument worth addressing, though. You've just constructed a bunch of narratives about how everyone is a victim now and it's hurting revolutionary ideology and shitting on intersectionality. I specifically used your "actually it almost seems like" phrasing because it seems like even you don't really believe the SJWs are killing real leftism line you're pushing right now.
And it's doubly bizarre because you seem to acknowledge that synthesis of so called identity issues with marxism has created some of its most successful movements which is prima facie obvious, almost all marxist revolutions of any success I can think of have come off the back of national liberation struggles.
Perhaps the reasons revolutions aren't happening in the first world is because.... material conditions aren't producing revolutionary ideology? The shift of manufacturing to the economic periphery? social-democratic welfare programs that improve material conditions just enough? fascism? imperialist hegemony? the legitimate failures of marxist revolutions used against them? more than a century of anti-worker propaganda?
no wait, i got it, throw out materialist analysis i blame everyone who looks like this -> :social
No, not a narrative just what is ideological taught in universities. And there are many factors that might explain why no one has the stomach for Marxism. I was arguing however, that intersectionality and current identity politics, has moved away from old marxist ideas. And, lost in all this is actually what I originally said. Do you know what I original said?
I said there are aspects of leftist thought in past that I thought was good, and better than the approach used today. I thought that approach was ineffective. THAT IS ALL. THAT IS ALL.
Post by: shosta on August 01, 2019, 12:18:53 AM
Post by: shosta on August 01, 2019, 12:26:09 AM
Do you know what I original said?yes, you said noam chomsky had classically liberal values
I said there are aspects of leftist thought in past that I thought was good, and better than the approach used today. I thought that approach was ineffective. THAT IS ALL. THAT IS ALL.ok i can tell everyone's exhausted. let's just end this discussion here. you think there was an inclusive working class movement in the middle of the twentieth century that was less likely to alienate workers than today's hollow liberalism. some of us think that you seriously misunderstand the details of those worker movements and that your criticism of identity politics is just an attack on a strawman. I think this is a good stopping point :doge
Post by: Leadbelly on August 01, 2019, 12:42:16 AM
I simply said some speculate, which they do.:beliThat said, the point I was making is that older lefties understand the importance of class solidarity. That was the argument I was making. That real change is mroe likely through organising under class than race.Who is telling you to choose?And I never said identity politics is a trick by the establishment. I never suggested this at all.Looking back, I misread something. My bad. Your actual position is that identity issues are not inclusive enough to get people who are not part of that identity on board so they fracture and divide. But genosse, this is still a false choice. Look at gay rights. Straight people made the choice to stand up for gay rights because they made a moral calculation to do so. Also, gay people organized together, along with their allies, for those rights, to solve that issue specific to their collective experience. An identity issue can only divide a class if people within that class choose to become enemies to the group in question whether than allies. So it reduces, again, to the simple question of whether you are an ally (on that issue) or not.
There is good news: we live in democracies (modulo the factor of corporate influence). When you disagree with some issue, you vote against it. When you agree, you vote for it. If this hypothetical working class bloke you are thinking of was just about to reign in the finance sector, the tax evaders, and the rentiers, but the issue of, say, legitimizing sodomy turned him off, that says infinitely more about him and his alleged commitment to class issues than it does those who would put forth the identity issue in question.
I will grant you that this does apply in reverse, too. There are many times where people have had to choose whether to put aside their identity issues to advocate class ones when voting forsocial fascistsless than agreeable people. That's a choice that everyone has to make for themselves. For latinos wondering whether ICE will bust their door down and drag their abuela out of the house, their existential issue is more important than voting for Richard Spencer who wants universal healthcare and free college. For my gay Republican roommate who interned at the state capitol, he understood that his party wasn't really with him on LGBT issues, but it was ultimately more important to him to keep the debt down :beli, keep taxes low :beli, and "lead from the front" :beli. Anyway I just don't think this happens as often as you think and you're too stuck on a pink-haired straw-nonbinary-person (they/them) screaming at you about spreading your legs on the subway. This is a concrete thing so give concrete examples, it can never be solved in the abstract.
I agree with gay rights point. There was a time when there was a clear reason to mobilise. Homosexuality at one point was illegal in the law. When there are tangible causes to fight for, then yes, people will organise in solidarity. It is not so clear now, and fights not so obvious. And that's part of the problem but not the entire problem. And I do think the issue is fringe, always has been. The problem is, I think the fringe element is the one most vocal, and also the one more likely to seek certain positions within the institutions. You talk about the obvious pink-haired nutcase that shrieks nonsense. It is not one case though is it? It is more than one case. The whole 'straight white male' thing is not one person though right? It is actually thing. If I were to go to an intersectionality meeting, if I were white, which I am not, I would be expected to keep quiet to make space for minority voices to speak. This is a thing. It is divisive ultimately. And that is why we talk about it. You can say that it is overstated, but it can be understated. Google's diversity unit, it didn't happen in a vacuum right? There has to be a push for it to begin with. Which there was in the universities. It is a thing.
Post by: Leadbelly on August 01, 2019, 12:44:34 AM
Do you know what I original said?yes, you said noam chomsky had classically liberal valuesI said there are aspects of leftist thought in past that I thought was good, and better than the approach used today. I thought that approach was ineffective. THAT IS ALL. THAT IS ALL.ok i can tell everyone's exhausted. let's just end this discussion here. you think there was an inclusive working class movement in the middle of the twentieth century that was less likely to alienate workers than today's hollow liberalism. some of us think that you seriously misunderstand the details of those worker movements and that your criticism of identity politics is just an attack on a strawman. I think this is a good stopping point :doge
Okay. I am quite happy to.
Post by: Leadbelly on August 01, 2019, 12:55:44 AM
Do you know what I original said?yes, you said noam chomsky had classically liberal values
Just one more thing. I was saying the essence of liberalism is the freedom of individual and it is from that base in a social sense Noam comes from.
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anarchism would be the development of the remnants of classical liberalismhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Eu2Y8G5V0s
Edit: I've edited this a bit, because you actually added 'values' which is a bit different.
I also explained how this is so. Crudely, because I didn't dwell on it, but it was right there in my post about it.
Post by: shosta on August 01, 2019, 12:55:57 AM
Just one more thing. You're joking though right? I did actually explain I wasn't actually saying that. I was saying the essence of liberalism is the freedom of individual and it is from that base in a social sense Noam comes from.I AM EMBARGOING THIS SUBJECT
Post by: Leadbelly on August 01, 2019, 12:59:34 AM
I think sometimes liberal politics has a communication issue that alienates people like you but I also think there are a lot of alternative spaces, especially the socialist ones, that are not only more constructive but manage to be, yes, intersectional - they cater to class issues and they respect identity issues as well. It's big tent politics, dawg. I dated a sociology major once whose senior thesis was just 50 pages on male privilege. Like, I get it. But it's also not the whole thing, don't think the people who scream at Jordan Peterson are at all the majority force in politics right now. The majority force in politics are the neoliberals :dogeJust one more thing. You're joking though right? I did actually explain I wasn't actually saying that. I was saying the essence of liberalism is the freedom of individual and it is from that base in a social sense Noam comes from.I AM EMBARGOING THIS SUBJECT
I edited that post a little. I didn't say he defined himself as a classical liberal. But then I realised you added 'values'. If anyone has spent a lot of time listening to Noam you would know that aspect of him is true.
Post by: shosta on August 01, 2019, 01:03:53 AM
Post by: Leadbelly on August 01, 2019, 01:06:47 AM
I'm never posting in this thread again
I have had enough too. Don't worry.
Post by: Nintex on August 01, 2019, 03:32:38 AM
I always land in the middle as a centristI have no issue with gay rights. I am pro choice.do this
Where on the spectrum do I fit? :thinking
My views don't just fit neatly into a box. That isn't so uncommon.
https://8values.github.io/
https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=47.0&d=44.1&g=57.7&s=57.3 (https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=47.0&d=44.1&g=57.7&s=57.3)
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 01, 2019, 03:37:38 AM
I always land in the middle as a centristI have no issue with gay rights. I am pro choice.do this
Where on the spectrum do I fit? :thinking
My views don't just fit neatly into a box. That isn't so uncommon.
https://8values.github.io/
https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=47.0&d=44.1&g=57.7&s=57.3 (https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=47.0&d=44.1&g=57.7&s=57.3)
I got autocracy :lol
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 01, 2019, 03:46:29 AM
Post by: Momo on August 01, 2019, 03:50:35 AM
lul
https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=59.1&d=72.9&g=71.5&s=73.4
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 01, 2019, 03:52:19 AM
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 01, 2019, 03:53:31 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 01, 2019, 04:00:16 AM
I got autocracy :lol
did it again and got Leftwing Populism this time, just shifted a few answers that I'm iffy on
https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=61.0&d=28.2&g=33.8&s=48.9
so I'm between autocracy and leftwing populism
Post by: Momo on August 01, 2019, 04:32:16 AM
So how is that green new deal going for you?I got autocracy :lol
did it again and got Leftwing Populism this time, just shifted a few answers that I'm iffy on
https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=61.0&d=28.2&g=33.8&s=48.9 (https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=61.0&d=28.2&g=33.8&s=48.9)
so I'm between autocracy and leftwing populism
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://i.imgur.com/xrmcISY.jpg)
[close]
Post by: agrajag on August 01, 2019, 08:34:28 AM
libertarian socialism it is
Post by: naff on August 01, 2019, 08:40:24 AM
https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=77.4&d=63.8&g=70.8&s=79.6
libertarian socialism it is
Likewise. Is this a diss?
Post by: Mandark on August 01, 2019, 08:42:08 AM
Post by: Momo on August 01, 2019, 09:18:13 AM
Post by: Rufus on August 01, 2019, 01:07:43 PM
https://twitter.com/samharrisorg/status/997477640582742016I have no issue with gay rights. I am pro choice.
Where on the spectrum do I fit? :thinking
My views don't just fit neatly into a box. That isn't so uncommon.
damn bro you're blowing my fucking mind
:curious
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https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=77.4&d=70.2&g=71.5&s=79.2
Libertarian Socialism. Is there one of these that's so surrepticiously worded that you can actually be surprised by the results (and don't subconciously manipulate them)?
Post by: Mandark on August 01, 2019, 01:24:37 PM
Also the idea that you're not all reactionary fucktards is the funniest part. What is the dogpiling if not reactionary? The mind boggles.
"reactionary" is when someone reacts to something, and they more they react the more they're being reactionary
:doge
Post by: Mandark on August 01, 2019, 02:01:39 PM
I've seen several people float variations of this idea over the last few years, and I have to assume they never looked up pictures of that strike.
Post by: BisMarckie on August 01, 2019, 02:04:39 PM
Just to make Kara mad 8)
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 01, 2019, 02:22:44 PM
So how is that green new deal going for you?I got autocracy :lol
did it again and got Leftwing Populism this time, just shifted a few answers that I'm iffy on
https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=61.0&d=28.2&g=33.8&s=48.9 (https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=61.0&d=28.2&g=33.8&s=48.9)
so I'm between autocracy and leftwing populismspoiler (click to show/hide)(https://i.imgur.com/xrmcISY.jpg)[close]
clearly needs moar autocracy
Post by: Oblivion on August 01, 2019, 02:52:46 PM
HOWEVER
for the sake of prosperity, i would like to declare that literally every single assumption i made about leadbelly was 100% accurate. that he was someone who was pathologically obsessed with identity politics from the Left. somebody who unironically thinks the greatest threats to society are sinister corporate diversity initiatives and tyrannical HR managers. he's someone who is insanely paranoid of pink haired college kids hiding under his bed.
he got SO damn hung up on the idea that i was claiming he was a conservative and so tried to repeatedly insist that he also occasionally has GOOD opinions as well, when that was never what my complaint was. i can totally believe that he is not a literal card carrying member of the republican party, and may have some deeply held leftist views on the economy. it's more than possible to leftist on the economic front and be a chud on the social front, as our very own Optimus demonstrated in the past. my complaint however, was, what good is being a leftist on the economy if you rarely, IF EVER, fucking talk about it. in which case, he's asking me to ignore his actions, but listen to his heart.
i mean, say what you will about Optimus, but at least he had the decency to mention more than once that he would line up CEOs against the wall along with anita sarkeesian, in this sense, leadbelly is basically just a more polite version of assimilate.
Post by: agrajag on August 01, 2019, 02:55:47 PM
edit: fuck, he also claimed that he voted for Clinton, but I don't believe him
Post by: Mandark on August 01, 2019, 02:55:55 PM
I was using it in the french revolution era sense, so I didn't bother to unpack that one
dogpiling is the tool of the masses
People need to drop their victim mentality and expose themselves to other viewpoints with an open mind.
*multiple people make fun of me on a homoerotic splinter gaming forum
This is the real fascism.
Post by: Oblivion on August 01, 2019, 02:58:16 PM
oh and very briefly, i was almost thrown for a loop when i saw leadbelly post a video of contrapoints, only to find out that it was a video of contrapoints where she's debating roaming millenial, because of course. :rofl
Post by: Oblivion on August 01, 2019, 03:07:15 PM
Assimilate wasn't even on the left economically. His one claim to liberalism was that he voted for Obama that one time.
edit: fuck, he also claimed that he voted for Clinton, but I don't believe him
yeah, i doubt that clown was. i was trying to say that functionally speaking, assy and leadbelly are pretty much the same
Post by: Leadbelly on August 01, 2019, 03:52:52 PM
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he's someone who is insanely paranoid of pink haired college kids hiding under his bed.
Translation: leadbelly is someone who does not like identity politics and speaks about it.
As I said before for some reason people seem to want to exaggerate shit way out of proportion. which is human nature. I actually think it has something to do with why Trump got elected, for instance. And I find that reasonable reason to be critical of it. I don't think it is literally the end of world however. This isn't my topic of conversation in the real world. I don't go to the bar and rant about 'those damn liberals' or anything. The irony is, you almost come across as insanely pathological about me.Like your obsession lies with me. This constant push to figure me out. Asking purity test questions. Constant dogpiling. What is that exactly? lol
I have written about or posted videos about subjects that are critical of those things, in a thread where that, originally wason topic. And that is an important point to make. Sure, it would a bit weird if it was an Anime thread and suddenly ranted about liberals. Yeah, that would be weird... but no.
Strangely, I am kind of okay with this, mainly because you ackowledge I am on the left(lol). And I just think that's progress. And I have interacted with you people enough now to know, it kind isn't worth it. The debate is unsatisfactory. I get nothing out of it. And it is bordering on the ridiculous half the time. Why would I be offended by you guys?
Another thing: if we were to take what we post about often seriously and call it a pathological obsession, then surely you're all pathologically obsessed with Jordan Peterson and the IDW? No? I'm not saying you are, that's not my point. It is simply doing what you do. This si what you speak about ALL THE TIME. Get it?
Post by: Mandark on August 01, 2019, 04:06:03 PM
Post by: Oblivion on August 01, 2019, 04:13:35 PM
Quotehe's someone who is insanely paranoid of pink haired college kids hiding under his bed.
Translation: leadbelly is someone who does not like identity politics and speaks about it.
As I said before for some reason people seem to want to exaggerate shit way out of proportion. which is human nature. I actually think it has something to do with why Trump got elected, for instance. And I find that reasonable reason to be critical of it. I don't think it is literally the end of world however. This isn't my topic of conversation in the real world. I don't go to the bar and rant about 'those damn liberals' or anything.
you posted this on the LAST fucking page, my dude:
I simply said some speculate, which they do.:beliThat said, the point I was making is that older lefties understand the importance of class solidarity. That was the argument I was making. That real change is mroe likely through organising under class than race.Who is telling you to choose?And I never said identity politics is a trick by the establishment. I never suggested this at all.Looking back, I misread something. My bad. Your actual position is that identity issues are not inclusive enough to get people who are not part of that identity on board so they fracture and divide. But genosse, this is still a false choice. Look at gay rights. Straight people made the choice to stand up for gay rights because they made a moral calculation to do so. Also, gay people organized together, along with their allies, for those rights, to solve that issue specific to their collective experience. An identity issue can only divide a class if people within that class choose to become enemies to the group in question whether than allies. So it reduces, again, to the simple question of whether you are an ally (on that issue) or not.
There is good news: we live in democracies (modulo the factor of corporate influence). When you disagree with some issue, you vote against it. When you agree, you vote for it. If this hypothetical working class bloke you are thinking of was just about to reign in the finance sector, the tax evaders, and the rentiers, but the issue of, say, legitimizing sodomy turned him off, that says infinitely more about him and his alleged commitment to class issues than it does those who would put forth the identity issue in question.
I will grant you that this does apply in reverse, too. There are many times where people have had to choose whether to put aside their identity issues to advocate class ones when voting forsocial fascistsless than agreeable people. That's a choice that everyone has to make for themselves. For latinos wondering whether ICE will bust their door down and drag their abuela out of the house, their existential issue is more important than voting for Richard Spencer who wants universal healthcare and free college. For my gay Republican roommate who interned at the state capitol, he understood that his party wasn't really with him on LGBT issues, but it was ultimately more important to him to keep the debt down :beli, keep taxes low :beli, and "lead from the front" :beli. Anyway I just don't think this happens as often as you think and you're too stuck on a pink-haired straw-nonbinary-person (they/them) screaming at you about spreading your legs on the subway. This is a concrete thing so give concrete examples, it can never be solved in the abstract.
I agree with gay rights point. There was a time when there was a clear reason to mobilise. Homosexuality at one point was illegal in the law. When there are tangible causes to fight for, then yes, people will organise in solidarity. It is not so clear now, and fights not so obvious. And that's part of the problem but not the entire problem. And I do think the issue is fringe, always has been. The problem is, I think the fringe element is the one most vocal, and also the one more likely to seek certain positions within the institutions. You talk about the obvious pink-haired nutcase that shrieks nonsense. It is not one case though is it? It is more than one case. The whole 'straight white male' thing is not one person though right? It is actually thing. If I were to go to an intersectionality meeting, if I were white, which I am not, I would be expected to keep quiet to make space for minority voices to speak. This is a thing. It is divisive ultimately. And that is why we talk about it. You can say that it is overstated, but it can be understated. Google's diversity unit, it didn't happen in a vacuum right? There has to be a push for it to begin with. Which there was in the universities. It is a thing.
You DO think this type of shit is a problem. Otherwise you wouldn't focus so much energy on it.
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The irony is, you almost come across as insanely pathological about me.Like your obsession lies with me. This constant push to figure me out. Asking purity test questions. Constant dogpiling. What is that exactly? lol
Obsessed with you? This is the first prolonged interaction I've had with you. I've seen you post in this and other threads (usually the same shit), but I generally went about my way. You on the other hand, have been posting that sort of shit for god knows how long.
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I have written about or posted videos about subjects that are critical of those things, in a thread where that, originally on topic. Sure, it would a bit weird if it was an Anime thread and suddenly ranted about liberals. Yeah, that would be weird... but no.
For all the complaints you have about me supposedly strawmanning you, you yourself sure do it a lot. I have (repeatedly) told you that I don't take issue with you posting shit that people in this thread may disagree with. That's not the issue. That was NEVER the issue!
Post by: Leadbelly on August 01, 2019, 04:18:27 PM
The reason I have been speaking about it at length of late is because you engaged me. Don't get it twisted. I didn't write those posts without being prompted.
Post by: agrajag on August 01, 2019, 04:19:36 PM
Post by: Mandark on August 01, 2019, 04:22:27 PM
If I were to go to an intersectionality meeting, if I were white, which I am not, I would be expected to keep quiet to make space for minority voices to speak.
literal lol at "intersectionality meeting"
also, for someone who places such high value on keeping an open mind and exposing oneself to differing viewpoints, it's weird that a situation where you're expected to listen to "minority voices" would be such a self-evidently awful thing
Post by: Leadbelly on August 01, 2019, 04:24:08 PM
Counterpoint: you are free to post whatever garbage you want, and other people are also free to mock you for it. No one is taking away leadbelly's freedom of expression lol
I'm not saying you are. Just don't give me the crap that it has nothing to do with heterodox opinions.
Post by: Oblivion on August 01, 2019, 04:25:53 PM
Most of the time I only post videos in this thread. Without comment.
I...didn't say you did otherwise?
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The reason I have been speaking about it at length of late is because you engaged me. Don't get it twisted. I didn't write those posts without being prompted.
and that's...also fine? what are you even addressing here? lol
Post by: Leadbelly on August 01, 2019, 04:26:40 PM
Post by: Mandark on August 01, 2019, 04:27:27 PM
I'm not saying you are. Just don't give me the crap that it has nothing to do with heterodox opinions.
"lots of people make posts about how I'm wrong, but it's only because I'm expressing ideas they believe are wrong!"
really makes u think
Post by: Oblivion on August 01, 2019, 04:29:14 PM
Counterpoint: you are free to post whatever garbage you want, and other people are also free to mock you for it. No one is taking away leadbelly's freedom of expression lol
I'm not saying you are. Just don't give me the crap that it has nothing to do with heterodox opinions.
leadbelly, i know you're not going to like this, but this is another checkmark, lol.
Post by: Leadbelly on August 01, 2019, 04:30:19 PM
Look, I have a problem with just ignoring people. I have to respond. I am not going to now though. This has gone on for way too long.
Post by: curly on August 01, 2019, 04:36:29 PM
This is just a general observation so you don't need to feel obligated to reply leadbelly.
Post by: Mandark on August 01, 2019, 04:37:03 PM
I will respond to you jake later.
I can't believe you scammed a like from jake by lying like that.
You should be ashamed of yourself. This is like fraud.
Post by: Oblivion on August 01, 2019, 04:38:43 PM
Post by: Mandark on August 01, 2019, 04:41:40 PM
This came up with etiolate and the dislike of intersectionality specifically is baffling to me because the idea at its core seems simple and self-evident: oppression works on multiple axes, and we must be aware of this. There's so many social movements that provide examples of the need for this sort of awareness—the sexism rampant in the black power movement, or the overt and covert racism that's appeared in feminism past and present. If you want a really obvious example of this, go to r/aznidentity and look up WMAF.
Even if you don't buy in the moral imperative for empathy and for understanding injustices that don't directly affect you, the realities of coalition politics in a pluralist society lead you to a similar place. If your potential allies care about something, realpolitik demands that you help them address it even if you don't actually give a shit.
Post by: agrajag on August 01, 2019, 05:03:48 PM
That's what I dont get about reactionary chuds like Etoilet or Brett Weinstein. Idpol is bad, unless it's our idpol. Such as feeling empathetic for the plight of the incels or by the diminishing role of the straight white male in the society driving young white males to seek a sense of belonging in radical far right groups.
Because I have news for you buddy, even if they do have a point about those things, that's identity politics.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 01, 2019, 05:08:00 PM
Socialist, Liberal, Peaceful, Progressive
Post by: shosta on August 01, 2019, 05:14:57 PM
you seem malleable as fuck, I hope you never get approached by some culthttps://8values.github.io/results.html?e=93.9&d=69.1&g=46.2&s=72.1
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 01, 2019, 08:34:55 PM
you seem malleable as fuck, I hope you never get approached by some culthttps://8values.github.io/results.html?e=93.9&d=69.1&g=46.2&s=72.1
Excellent, something to compare and contrast to with three months down the line.
Post by: Leadbelly on August 01, 2019, 08:41:15 PM
wait leadbelly do you seriously think that complaining about white males being excluded from "intersectionality meetings " is not idpol victimization of the white male, the very same idpol victimization that you accuse the SJW's of engaging in?
That's what I dont get about reactionary chuds like Etoilet or Brett Weinstein. Idpol is bad, unless it's our idpol. Such as feeling empathetic for the plight of the incels or by the diminishing role of the straight white male in the society driving young white males to seek a sense of belonging in radical far right groups.
Because I have news for you buddy, even if they do have a point about those things, that's identity politics.
This discussion has run its course. Lets not keep reviving it.
Post by: Leadbelly on August 01, 2019, 08:43:07 PM
I will respond to you jake later.
I can't believe you scammed a like from jake by lying like that.
You should be ashamed of yourself. This is like fraud.
You people tempt me so much... Jakes pst was utterly irrelevant. I would have only been responding out of politeness.
Post by: shosta on August 01, 2019, 08:53:55 PM
Post by: curly on August 01, 2019, 08:54:59 PM
I will respond to you jake later.
I can't believe you scammed a like from jake by lying like that.
You should be ashamed of yourself. This is like fraud.
You people tempt me so much... Jakes pst was utterly irrelevant. I would have only been responding out of politeness.
:gurl
Post by: TVC15 on August 01, 2019, 09:08:58 PM
Ah come on, this was fun. Watching someone go "Well you're not actually arguing against my arguments you're painting me as a strawman" while painting everybody else as strawmen is pretty hilarious.
I haven’t had this much fun seeing someone get smacked since Assi was around.
Heres my daddy wanky score:
(https://i.imgur.com/qbTBDnI.jpg)
Post by: Oblivion on August 01, 2019, 09:39:36 PM
https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=88.4&d=62.2&g=67.3&s=80.5
Closest Match: Libertarian Communism
Huh. Interesting.
Post by: Oblivion on August 01, 2019, 09:43:27 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on August 01, 2019, 09:43:32 PM
I will respond to you jake later.
I can't believe you scammed a like from jake by lying like that.
You should be ashamed of yourself. This is like fraud.
You people tempt me so much... Jakes pst was utterly irrelevant. I would have only been responding out of politeness.
:gurl
You knw curly, I do remember your post, and was going to let it lie, again, out of politeness, but you have brought it on yourself I guess.
I don't think you're a covert agent I just think your ideas are confused and your fetishism of rational debate is as much about staking out an identity as anyone (God I hate how the other side has no interest in logic, how they never engage in good faith). You have a child's understanding of ideas like liberalism and want us to engage with your childish caricatures of them which is tiresome as fuck.
My original post was about Noam Chomsky. I think it was Shosta who couldn't understand how I could use the term 'classical liberal' and Noam Chomsky in the same breath. So I explained it in simple language so that it could be easily understood and so not to dwell on it. The topic was not about liberalism.
I stated, 'to sum up in one sentence' essentially the essence of classical liberalism is individual freedom. From that develops a series of questions which in turn form a body of work on the subject. For instance questions surrounding state power and the role of the state in protecting individual freedom. Whether state coercion is ever justified. More to the point whether there should be a state altogther. In other words from that foundational principle we get a train of thought that ultimately leads to anarchism, or limited government. If individual freedom is a state of being which is in some sense the right of every man, then the state's power over the individual becomes suspect. This is actually more detailed than my original post, but just to make this clear.
Here's the thing: When someone says 'to sum up in one sentence' anyone with half a brain cell, you would think, could understand that they are intentionally simplifying it. The clue is, you know... 'to sum up in one sentence'. Summing anything up in one sentence can only ever be a simplification. Yet for some unknown reason, people like you seem to interpret that as, this one sentence is literally the entire breadth of liberal thought. As if when I open a text book, I am expecting that one sentence and then, 'the end' (lol). You can't be this dense surely? You seem not to understand basic words, like: to sum up; the essence of; the root of. Words that necessary qualifies a statement a certain way. We were not having a discussion on liberalism. And so when someone like Jake comes along and states shit like, 'you know there is a whole school of thought in liberalism' or 'liberalism is more nuanced than that', well... Yes. It. Is. It is utterly irrelevant and would have turned the discussion on a tangent. We were discussing Noam Chomsky for goodness sake.
What's worse though is what is implied by your post. If I only have a childlike understanding of liberalism and that it is not worth engaging, what is that suggesting about you? It is suggesting you have an expert understanding of liberalism and so engaging with me is beneath you. Yet, for some reason unbeknowest to me, you are contesting the fact that classical in essence IS about individual freedom. It is the 'root' of it. The foundational principle where all thought stems outward from. I can't for the life of me see why you would if you knew anything.
I mean... read this first sentence curly.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/terms/classical_liberalism.htm
This demonstrates something to me. You are reading my posts at a distance. You're not trying to get the point I am making you are looking for something to get me on. I don't actually think you're as dense as you seem. What I actually think is you were looking for something as a point of contest. It was a short post of me explaining why I associated Noam with Classical liberalism. WHat it was not was an indepth conversation on liberalism. I was not writing an essay on liberalism. So why then do you make it such? Well, I think I know...
Post by: shosta on August 01, 2019, 09:43:50 PM
so...is libertarian communist like more leftist than libertarian socialism? and where does marxism lie?https://github.com/8values/8values.github.io/blob/master/ideologies.js
Post by: Oblivion on August 01, 2019, 09:48:17 PM
so...is libertarian communist like more leftist than libertarian socialism? and where does marxism lie?https://github.com/8values/8values.github.io/blob/master/ideologies.js
that just leads me to code
Post by: shosta on August 01, 2019, 09:50:22 PM
"name": "Libertarian Socialism",
"stats": {
"econ": 80,
"dipl": 80,
"govt": 80,
"scty": 80
}
}
{
"name": "Libertarian Communism",
"stats": {
"econ": 100,
"dipl": 70,
"govt": 80,
"scty": 80
}
}
{
"name": "Marxism",
"stats": {
"econ": 100,
"dipl": 70,
"govt": 40,
"scty": 80
}
}
Post by: Mandark on August 01, 2019, 09:56:25 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on August 01, 2019, 09:59:07 PM
That is the end.
Post by: Mandark on August 01, 2019, 10:01:31 PM
he's not angry, in fact it is funny to him
Post by: benjipwns on August 01, 2019, 10:03:49 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/D6pX3LA.png)
Post by: benjipwns on August 01, 2019, 10:05:43 PM
it should have skipped a bunch of questions if you answered no to that one
Post by: Mandark on August 01, 2019, 10:06:34 PM
Post by: shosta on August 01, 2019, 10:06:38 PM
You knw curly, I do remember your post, and was going to let it lie, again, out of politeness, but you have brought it on yourself I guess.(http://www.feelingoodtees.com/Assets/ProductImages/PS_0349W_SICK_CURE.jpg)
You can't be this dense surely? You seem not to understand basic words, like: to sum up; the essence of; the root of. Words that necessary qualifies a statement a certain way. We were not having a discussion on liberalism. And so when someone like Jake comes along and states shit like, 'you know there is a whole school of thought in liberalism' or 'liberalism is more nuanced than that', well... Yes. It. Is. It is utterly irrelevant and would have turned the discussion on a tangent. We were discussing Noam Chomsky for goodness sake.(https://i.imgur.com/xMIhZwQ.jpg)
If I only have a childlike understanding of liberalism and that it is not worth engaging, what is that suggesting about you? It is suggesting you have an expert understanding of liberalism and so engaging with me is beneath you. Yet, for some reason unbeknowest to me, you are contesting the fact that classical in essence IS about individual freedom. It is the 'root' of it. The foundational principle where all thought stems outward from. I can't for the life of me see why you would if you knew anything.
(https://danluu.com/images/dunning-kruger/dunning_1.png)
This demonstrates something to me. You are reading my posts at a distance. You're not trying to get the point I am making you are looking for something to get me on.(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ClutteredLavishBlacknorwegianelkhound-small.gif)
Post by: benjipwns on August 01, 2019, 10:08:34 PM
Post by: agrajag on August 01, 2019, 10:12:02 PM
so what are all these posts about? should i read them to assign likes?
just skip the state imposed beauracratic boondoggles and give all the likes to me
Post by: benjipwns on August 01, 2019, 10:14:15 PM
I will live to see a market exchange of Likes :jeb
Post by: Leadbelly on August 01, 2019, 10:24:58 PM
Post by: Leadbelly on August 01, 2019, 10:25:48 PM
so what are all these posts about? should i read them to assign likes?
No. Ignorance is bliss.
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 01, 2019, 10:29:15 PM
do you think it's possible for one of these tests to ever not have at least one question that you wonder what it's even supposed to mean or what it has to do with the eventual measures?
(https://i.imgur.com/D6pX3LA.png)
the market rate is set by perceived value of likes due to thriftiness
the stingier the more the value, rock bottom is filler, highest is-I have no clue
Post by: shosta on August 01, 2019, 10:31:49 PM
highest is-I have no clue(https://i.imgur.com/7V7Rndv.png?1)
Post by: benjipwns on August 01, 2019, 10:34:01 PM
etoliate likes probably are pretty valuable even if the market has been forced into scarcity by tyrant mods
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 01, 2019, 10:35:33 PM
edit: mods delist LDBY pls, quants see geometric penalties on future transactions
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 01, 2019, 10:42:15 PM
Post by: benjipwns on August 01, 2019, 10:45:47 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 01, 2019, 10:46:50 PM
who's going to be the first person to move physically closer to The Bire server to increase their abilities in the Like market?
autolike all function when, crash this market with no survivors
Post by: El Babua on August 01, 2019, 10:50:06 PM
Post by: Oblivion on August 01, 2019, 10:56:19 PM
oh no, is this the beginning of like inflation
beginning? nah, filler's been trying to dilute the purchasing power of like currency for years
Post by: TVC15 on August 01, 2019, 10:57:20 PM
ya a drinky like is pretty high up there
As previously stated by the bore heads of like economy: a drinky like is a U2 album mysteriously showing up in your playlist AKA worthless.
It’ll get you a handy at the dumpster behind Chuck E Cheez.
Post by: agrajag on August 01, 2019, 10:57:29 PM
:kermit
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 01, 2019, 11:00:30 PM
Post by: Oblivion on August 01, 2019, 11:02:07 PM
filler likes are like paper cuts, everybody gets them regardless of status or whatever they were doing.
so like yang bux?
Post by: curly on August 01, 2019, 11:02:11 PM
I will respond to you jake later.
I can't believe you scammed a like from jake by lying like that.
You should be ashamed of yourself. This is like fraud.
You people tempt me so much... Jakes pst was utterly irrelevant. I would have only been responding out of politeness.
:gurl
You knw curly, I do remember your post, and was going to let it lie, again, out of politeness, but you have brought it on yourself I guess.I don't think you're a covert agent I just think your ideas are confused and your fetishism of rational debate is as much about staking out an identity as anyone (God I hate how the other side has no interest in logic, how they never engage in good faith). You have a child's understanding of ideas like liberalism and want us to engage with your childish caricatures of them which is tiresome as fuck.
My original post was about Noam Chomsky. I think it was Shosta who couldn't understand how I could use the term 'classical liberal' and Noam Chomsky in the same breath. So I explained it in simple language so that it could be easily understood and so not to dwell on it. The topic was not about liberalism.
I stated, 'to sum up in one sentence' essentially the essence of classical liberalism is individual freedom. From that develops a series of questions which in turn form a body of work on the subject. For instance questions surrounding state power and the role of the state in protecting individual freedom. Whether state coercion is ever justified. More to the point whether there should be a state altogther. In other words from that foundational principle we get a train of thought that ultimately leads to anarchism, or limited government. If individual freedom is a state of being which is in some sense the right of every man, then the state's power over the individual becomes suspect. This is actually more detailed than my original post, but just to make this clear.
Here's the thing: When someone says 'to sum up in one sentence' anyone with half a brain cell, you would think, could understand that they are intentionally simplifying it. The clue is, you know... 'to sum up in one sentence'. Summing anything up in one sentence can only ever be a simplification. Yet for some unknown reason, people like you seem to interpret that as, this one sentence is literally the entire breadth of liberal thought. As if when I open a text book, I am expecting that one sentence and then, 'the end' (lol). You can't be this dense surely? You seem not to understand basic words, like: to sum up; the essence of; the root of. Words that necessary qualifies a statement a certain way. We were not having a discussion on liberalism. And so when someone like Jake comes along and states shit like, 'you know there is a whole school of thought in liberalism' or 'liberalism is more nuanced than that', well... Yes. It. Is. It is utterly irrelevant and would have turned the discussion on a tangent. We were discussing Noam Chomsky for goodness sake.
What's worse though is what is implied by your post. If I only have a childlike understanding of liberalism and that it is not worth engaging, what is that suggesting about you? It is suggesting you have an expert understanding of liberalism and so engaging with me is beneath you. Yet, for some reason unbeknowest to me, you are contesting the fact that classical in essence IS about individual freedom. It is the 'root' of it. The foundational principle where all thought stems outward from. I can't for the life of me see why you would if you knew anything.
I mean... read this first sentence curly.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/terms/classical_liberalism.htm
This demonstrates something to me. You are reading my posts at a distance. You're not trying to get the point I am making you are looking for something to get me on. I don't actually think you're as dense as you seem. What I actually think is you were looking for something as a point of contest. It was a short post of me explaining why I associated Noam with Classical liberalism. WHat it was not was an indepth conversation on liberalism. I was not writing an essay on liberalism. So why then do you make it such? Well, I think I know...
Dude this whole post is you making a million inferences and creating a whole psychological profile about your opponents based on the thinnest of evidence! The exact thing you've been complaining about this whole fucking time!
Anyway the point in contention is whether summing up liberalism in a short sentence is a worthwhile and possible endeavor at all, which Jake pretty convincingly shows is not.
Post by: TVC15 on August 01, 2019, 11:03:58 PM
Post by: agrajag on August 01, 2019, 11:07:46 PM
Post by: benjipwns on August 01, 2019, 11:15:50 PM
I think the economy should be based on something like a Willco like standard. He’s never coming back so there’s a finite amount, but he distributed them freely enough in his day that they may serve as a substitute for something like gold.I think he was long gone before the admins crumbled in the face of the people and added likes.
Post by: Rufus on August 01, 2019, 11:21:20 PM
I'm reminded of ET's "what I say is dangerous to your worldview, so you reject it" spiel. :aahI'm not saying you are. Just don't give me the crap that it has nothing to do with heterodox opinions.
"lots of people make posts about how I'm wrong, but it's only because I'm expressing ideas they believe are wrong!"
really makes u think
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 01, 2019, 11:22:43 PM
this is why I took my talents to Twitter, much easier to farm hundreds of likes without breaking a sweat. I suspect that's what Besada was doing.
counterfeit op
Post by: team filler on August 01, 2019, 11:38:45 PM
Post by: BisMarckie on August 01, 2019, 11:43:39 PM
Post by: Momo on August 02, 2019, 12:56:55 AM
do you think it's possible for one of these tests to ever not have at least one question that you wonder what it's even supposed to mean or what it has to do with the eventual measures?Like twitch policies, it's left intentionally vague so they can ban you later
Post by: Momo on August 02, 2019, 01:11:40 AM
filler likes are like paper cuts, everybody gets them regardless of status or whatever they were doing.filler likes are like recreational drugs, if you're living solely off them you're probably in the dark place, used responsibly they are euphoric :ohyeah
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 02, 2019, 02:42:05 AM
filler likes are like paper cuts, everybody gets them regardless of status or whatever they were doing.filler likes are like recreational drugs, if you're living solely off them you're probably in the dark place, used responsibly they are euphoric :ohyeah
not trusting anything filler is bringing
Post by: Oblivion on August 02, 2019, 03:48:22 AM
https://twitter.com/DavidKlion/status/1156903708816527360
Post by: Rufus on August 02, 2019, 01:20:51 PM
Noteworthy profile text:
"Take me back to 2004 when the world was saner."
:lol
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 02, 2019, 05:52:15 PM
Post by: shosta on August 02, 2019, 11:39:21 PM
Last Active: 09-07-2019, 09:38:14
Noteworthy profile text:
"Take me back to 2004 when the world was saner."
:lol
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=34032.msg2348383#msg2348383
I'm going to share something batshit crazy with you all since I feel like we're starting to gel now - and something ive been thinking about for a long time that I feel I need to get off my chest and random strangers on the internet is the best to do this because i would get laughed at irl.
I helped Maria sharapova win wimbledon 2004.
I was a young sad, lonely 14 year old boy. I lived with my grandparents, who were out all day, so that meant I got to steal the livingroom tv which had cable at the time. I was never a tennis fan, but flicking through the channels the live feed for the wimbledon match sharapova vs williams came on - when I saw sharapova I had a crush instantly, and learned she was 17, not much older than me ! :o
I dont know what came over me, I started shouting at the tv, as if I was trying to speak to her directly. I was keeping her updated on the scores ( so she could focus and not be distracted by looking away), reassuring her whenever she made a fumble, going nuts when she won a point, and generally giving her moral support the whole time.
By the end, Maria did amazing and won. From her focus to the stupid hints i tried to leave to test to see if she could actually hear me or not - I was pretty convinced she could hear me the whole time. I did something really sad, i recognise that now, so please dont laugh too much. I told her my name, and slowly told her my phoned number over and over (i had a mobile back then). Could not fucking believe my eyes, after hugging her dad, she does a b-line for her phone! Any rational person would think shes going to call someone shes close to but is not there - like her mum, but 14-year old me, especially after seeing he spend a randomly long amount of time fiddling with her phone before trying to make a call - obviously thought she was putting in my number.
So, I did one more test...
I told her "You can thank me if you want, but please dont say my name" - just before she was about to commence the post-match interview. Obviously in moments like these, the winner likes to remind everyone who helped them by shouting them out as thank. I know you're not going to believe me when I say this, but this is 100% fact. At the very end of that list of thank yous, she said " And I want to thank one more person, i wont say who you are, but you know who you are". I know right?WHAT THE FUCK?[/color][/glow][/b]
So the show ended, and I was left in a state of disbelief. I sat there looking at my phone, no notifications. Was I being an actual dumb fuck? I went into my room to play some melee and fall asleep. I thought about it for a few days after, but then life took over and a few weeks passed and I was on holiday at my grandparents caravan up north.
My grandparents were out to the market so I thought - being alone, I would chill with some burnout 3. As I was playing, my mobile - which was in my left pocket - went off. Someone was calling, as I pull the phone out my pocket, I quickly read the screen. It's an unknown number, but its weird, it doesnt look like a UK number. Back then, mobile numbers were not so spammed by telemarketers as they were landlines, and websites werent so desperate to try get as much personal info as possible. So really the only people who had my number were my family and friends from school. Plus it wasnt a company or premium number either, I cant remember what it looked like, but best guess would be a foreign area code.
When I saw that foreign number, my heart stopped, the thought of it actually being Maria Sharapova lasted for about half a second before my mind was dominated with "what if someone near by heard you back then, and is playing a prank on you? you were pretty loud.", but i couldn't not answer it, right?
So I answered the call, put it to my ear, "Hello is this Greg?" in a motherfucking russian accent. But it didnt sound exactly like her on the tv, so I was like nah fuck this shit mentally me response was rather aggressive "what is this a fucking prank? FUCK OFF". And hung up.
That was the only time that number ever called me.
In the years to follow, I wouldnt think about it so much, just from time to time. I've always pinned it as a prank, but I just can't help but think, really? I mean, it was a foreign number, and I lived next to an elderly couple and family gang house who knew nothing about technology. Anything past those houses you wouldnt have heard me clearly enough, and anyway, if it was a prank, would they really have given up after one try after going to all that effort?
I just dont fucking know man, what if, y'know?
There used to be a video on youtube of the full match with the post match interview, but its gone I think. When I find it, I will update this story, so if you have doubts that my intentions behind this post are genuine, hopefully you will see how this story fits into place. So far the best I could I find is a clip of her going for her phone (but this really lacks context of the whole event) and an interview where she tries to over explain being on her phone for so long by forgetting her mum would be on a flight at that time - but no - I want you to see the actual event.
:hans1
Post by: agrajag on August 02, 2019, 11:47:11 PM
I want the ability to boo posts.
I want the ability to poo posts
Post by: Oblivion on August 06, 2019, 01:44:06 PM
Post by: agrajag on August 06, 2019, 01:46:47 PM
Post by: agrajag on August 06, 2019, 05:15:09 PM
Post by: shosta on August 06, 2019, 05:23:12 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4pgiWrWIAMGOsL.jpg)
Post by: benjipwns on August 06, 2019, 06:16:37 PM
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YouTuber Steven Crowder set up one of his “Change My Mind” panels outside of the White House Monday and asked people to change his mind that President Donald Trump is not a racist.
Chaos ensued when an aggressive anti-Trump protester sat down at his table to discuss the topic. The protester refused to leave at Crowder’s request and prompted security to step in and physically remove him.
Post by: Momo on August 08, 2019, 08:20:37 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN8MS057FPoJesus Christ sure has let himself goQuoteYouTuber Steven Crowder set up one of his “Change My Mind” panels outside of the White House Monday and asked people to change his mind that President Donald Trump is not a racist.
Chaos ensued when an aggressive anti-Trump protester sat down at his table to discuss the topic. The protester refused to leave at Crowder’s request and prompted security to step in and physically remove him.
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 08, 2019, 04:56:42 PM
Post by: team filler on August 08, 2019, 05:02:46 PM
Post by: Oblivion on August 08, 2019, 05:43:23 PM
https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1159570826154430465
Post by: Oblivion on August 08, 2019, 09:14:21 PM
https://twitter.com/chick_in_kiev/status/1159617807216250880
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 09, 2019, 07:36:32 AM
can't fight fiat likes
What about Hyundai ones?
Post by: agrajag on August 09, 2019, 07:19:40 PM
shosta stop
Post by: Oblivion on August 09, 2019, 07:41:03 PM
Post by: Mandark on August 09, 2019, 08:14:22 PM
Post by: Oblivion on August 09, 2019, 10:59:34 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 10, 2019, 12:31:01 PM
https://www.wbal.com/article/404440/127/professor-fired-over-confrontation-with-protesting-students
http://danielpovey.com/leaving.html
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What I do find very odd, though, is that any straight white male would buy into it. It's the same as if a gay Jew were to join the Nazi party and begin endlessly apologizing for his ancestors having lent money to Aryans at too-high rates of interest; and agreeing that he needs to recognize his "problematic Jewishness" and "toxic homosexuality", stop talking, and make space for Aryan voices to be heard. He might even take pride in having acknowledged the uniquely cancerous and exploitative nature of the Jewish people, despite being one himself. So is this person virtuous, or is he just too-easily manipulated? You decide.
He was also well known to be batshit.
Post by: shosta on August 10, 2019, 05:04:08 PM
Cindi, I think you have some ideas mixed up. Libertarianism is about deleting your Facebook and joining a Mastodon server so you can buy loli porn with bitcoin(https://external-preview.redd.it/ZfcSP67CjovaRvPWd97eDGvzf2qKM9B3B5OlIoMYZRc.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=46f889766dd189eeed0777de127cb440779c327f)
like clockwork
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 11, 2019, 06:35:26 PM
Post by: shosta on August 11, 2019, 10:12:47 PM
Post by: agrajag on August 12, 2019, 12:08:12 AM
:brain
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 12, 2019, 01:22:56 AM
Post by: Momo on August 12, 2019, 03:38:26 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 12, 2019, 09:42:01 AM
https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1160580368015118337
:brain
2017: Warner Bros suppresses the Snyder Cut of Justice League
Post by: Oblivion on August 13, 2019, 04:52:33 PM
https://twitter.com/clairlemon/status/1160737386776522752
Post by: Oblivion on August 13, 2019, 07:48:06 PM
Post by: shosta on August 13, 2019, 07:49:18 PM
Post by: Oblivion on August 13, 2019, 08:21:43 PM
cause shit, i'm jealous. the highest number of likes i've gotten on twitter was a mere 500
Post by: agrajag on August 13, 2019, 08:57:22 PM
Post by: Brehvolution on August 14, 2019, 09:47:53 AM
Post by: Momo on August 15, 2019, 04:18:06 AM
https://old.reddit.com/r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM/
These comments are a yuge YIKES
https://old.reddit.com/r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM/comments/cq8dna/south_african_woman_complains_on_both_sides_in/
Post by: Rufus on August 15, 2019, 04:29:49 AM
Post by: VomKriege on August 15, 2019, 04:49:12 AM
Every subreddit founded on circlejerk or counter-circlejerk is pure trash.
Well, except our own shit thread, obviously.
Post by: Rufus on August 15, 2019, 04:51:57 AM
Post by: benjipwns on August 17, 2019, 05:44:12 PM
Post by: EchoRin on August 17, 2019, 09:46:54 PM
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtYnAPAU0AAkujn.jpg)Image is too damn big and ugly. Click if ya want.
Post by: benjipwns on August 17, 2019, 09:48:21 PM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1162874263491268614
Post by: benjipwns on August 17, 2019, 10:45:29 PM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1162730996132921345
Post by: Oblivion on August 18, 2019, 01:21:12 AM
Post by: El Babua on August 18, 2019, 01:34:30 AM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 18, 2019, 10:16:11 AM
:dead :dead :dead
Post by: Mandark on August 18, 2019, 05:50:05 PM
It's sort of pointless... It's kind of like talking about the founding principles of the United States and saying we must talk about slavery.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 19, 2019, 08:48:55 AM
Post by: VomKriege on August 19, 2019, 09:18:26 AM
Post by: Brehvolution on August 19, 2019, 10:34:58 AM
The "white people don't get enough credit for ending slavery" argument is just... :dead
Won't someone please think of the white people. :noah
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 19, 2019, 10:40:25 AM
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If the land in which the United States was founded has been tainted by racism since the 1600s and everything derived therefrom is therefore tainted, then the US is illegitimate, the constitution is illegitimate, and revolution is the answer
:juche
Post by: benjipwns on August 19, 2019, 01:07:48 PM
the NYT 1619 ProjectI'm just going to assume this is related to what Neil Gaiman already did for Marvel with 1602 :hmph
Post by: Oblivion on August 19, 2019, 06:43:48 PM
:dead fuck
https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/1163244127334670336
miss the days of having race neutral discussions on the civil war
Post by: benjipwns on August 20, 2019, 12:05:59 AM
Post by: benjipwns on August 20, 2019, 12:13:27 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 20, 2019, 12:20:01 AM
I found this, this is you now as far as I'm concerned
https://myspace.com/benjipwns/photos
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 20, 2019, 12:23:55 AM
The "white people don't get enough credit for ending slavery" argument is just... :dead
Hot take: it's a tricky thing but I think it's not exactly wrong, and it goes beyond slavery. If we look at British attitudes towards colonialism post-war, I think there is a pretty significant factor of white people rejecting colonialism of the right reasons (instead of say rejecting it because it leads to London being full of Indians). I also think that this is significant in why India was less like how France* treated its colonies post-war. For a more modern example, look at how a lot of white men are using their power now to support women and non-white people in entertainment. It's also why a lot of liberals white people can laugh at white-people-are-awful, because in our heads, (and of course this is not always correct) we think 'they mean those other white people - the bad ones'. There are a lot of white men who are allied to people who have been and are discriminated against, and that is an important part of the story that is hard to tell without it seeming like white men taking credit for minority achievements. The issue then because that a lot of liberal white people quietly think this but its not a part of the open narrative which conservative people view as a rejection of this.
* super hot take: The French are not white and may not be human.
Post by: benjipwns on August 20, 2019, 12:24:45 AM
seeing that youtube account made me google you
I found this, this is you now as far as I'm concerned
https://myspace.com/benjipwns/photos
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(https://i.imgur.com/nsfyM5I.jpg):dead
yeah this night was pretty fun.. shes a really great listener
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 20, 2019, 12:30:25 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 20, 2019, 12:33:44 AM
https://www.uvm.edu/pdodds/teaching/courses/2018-01UVM-303/assignments/02/
hope you were fairly compensated
Post by: shosta on August 20, 2019, 12:35:22 AM
Post by: benjipwns on August 20, 2019, 12:52:16 AM
you were a part of the vermont university academic material btwCOPYRIGHT THEFT!!! WHERE ARE MY LAWYERS!
https://www.uvm.edu/pdodds/teaching/courses/2018-01UVM-303/assignments/02/
hope you were fairly compensated
Post by: benjipwns on August 20, 2019, 01:28:29 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 20, 2019, 01:33:49 AM
Why do we keep doxxing benji in this specific thread? :doge
those who forget history.... are doomed to repeat it,,,,
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 20, 2019, 01:40:25 AM
https://twitter.com/EmperorInvictus/status/1163462957281533952
diverse white nationalism
:jeb :jeb :jeb
Post by: shosta on August 20, 2019, 04:05:58 AM
:jeb
Post by: VomKriege on August 20, 2019, 06:55:56 AM
The "white people don't get enough credit for ending slavery" argument is just... :dead
Hot take: it's a tricky thing but I think it's not exactly wrong, and it goes beyond slavery. If we look at British attitudes towards colonialism post-war, I think there is a pretty significant factor of white people rejecting colonialism of the right reasons (instead of say rejecting it because it leads to London being full of Indians). I also think that this is significant in why India was less like how France* treated its colonies post-war. For a more modern example, look at how a lot of white men are using their power now to support women and non-white people in entertainment. It's also why a lot of liberals white people can laugh at white-people-are-awful, because in our heads, (and of course this is not always correct) we think 'they mean those other white people - the bad ones'. There are a lot of white men who are allied to people who have been and are discriminated against, and that is an important part of the story that is hard to tell without it seeming like white men taking credit for minority achievements. The issue then because that a lot of liberal white people quietly think this but its not a part of the open narrative which conservative people view as a rejection of this.
* super hot take: The French are not white and may not be human.
Brits : really our downfall was being too good.
I suppose abolitionists get to get some credit. And some European nations, notably the UK, were fairly proactive after the turned their back on slavery. I think there's some value to the argument that European and by extension "Western" societies managed to incorporate over centuries its own self reflection and criticism and see considerable progress because of it. But that need to be said with some tact because while it's good, it does not by itself right past wrongs. The gross part is reducing it all to just a "White" story with no agency granted to everyone else (though ironically, some of the most virulent voices claiming to speak for the oppressed will do just that).
:yeshrug
Post by: VomKriege on August 20, 2019, 08:27:16 AM
Dunno about y'all but I love to see the abolition of slavery and colonialism as the products of European benevolence and not as the transition to more suitable forms of domination like wage-labor and imperial monopoly-capital (both of which are also enforced with guns, extra-national ruling bodies and blockades). And certainly not as cagey measures to prevent the reoccurrence of Haiti or 1917.
Hence the comments about agency for other actors (and by extension factors). You're the one projecting "benevolence" here at least as far as my post is concerned when I don't make such claims. You're free to interpret that shift under a materialist lens or a matter of political expediency.
Post by: VomKriege on August 20, 2019, 08:47:23 AM
I agreed with your post which is why I liked it :(
I saw the like after, yeah but I was writing already and I didn't want to the World to not see my very important post.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Hopefully I was healthily combative and not just needlessly antagonistic.
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Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 20, 2019, 11:41:03 AM
But that need to be said with some tact because while it's good, it does not by itself right past wrongs. The gross part is reducing it all to just a "White" story with no agency granted to everyone else (though ironically, some of the most virulent voices claiming to speak for the oppressed will do just that).
:yeshrug
Ya, that's the point I was trying to make and you said it better. I meant that (certain groups of) white people go under-credited (in lefty circles) because it's hard to state without seemingly turning it into a white man's story. I think this self-reflection and criticism is an important aspect to a lot of social changes and should be part of the open narrative. I also think it already is part of the narrative for a lot of left white people, just not openly talked about which is not good for a lot of reasons.
Since you mentioned it, I think this is separate from the issue of righting wrongs, which is also super tricky though - you can have a story that says that people both benefited from something terrible while were also actively trying to fix that thing. The fact that there were white abolitionists and that now no white society will tolerate slavery (as it was 150 years ago) doesn't right a wrong and it never will if you think of righting a wrong in a complete sense - rather you can see it as righting the wrongs that may have been done to people hypothetically had slavery continued.
If you think about it in terms of righting wrongs I think it leads to a strange perspective. Like you can say that all white Americans benefited, and still benefit from slavery (and really Canadian's and Europeans as well) and thus have some kind of culpability but in a lot of ways that culpability is very indirect. This leads to the question, so at what point does a change in their beliefs or actions overtake their culpability? I'm not sure that's a valid question. A specific example of this would be that anti-slavery sentiment in the UK made it so that politically the UK couldn't enter the war to help the confederates. To frame this a question about the UK righting wrongs is not valid yet I think its an important part of the story (and the fact that you can say that white people in the UK prevented white people in the UK speaks to the fact that white people aren't really a homogeneous group*). I think there is a comparison to be made with climate change where everyone one is a sinner but don't have the thought right now.
*For example, the French have 2% extraterrestrial DNA.
Post by: agrajag on August 20, 2019, 01:26:42 PM
Destiny has gone full blown Etiolate.
Post by: Nintex on August 20, 2019, 01:39:23 PM
Post by: Brehvolution on August 20, 2019, 01:59:19 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECYOaxuWkAAOOE4?format=png&name=900x900)
:jeb
Eat shit
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 20, 2019, 02:05:19 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECYOaxuWkAAOOE4?format=png&name=900x900)
:jeb
No way are those hamburgers and fries still fresh enough to be worth eating.
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 20, 2019, 02:19:40 PM
https://twitter.com/ModalSevenths/status/1163772630266048513
Destiny has gone full blown Etiolate.
issuing correction on a previous post of mine, regarding the Nazis. you do not, under any circumstances, "gotta hand it to them"
Post by: Momo on August 20, 2019, 03:48:56 PM
Post by: Momo on August 20, 2019, 03:54:50 PM
Post by: nachobro on August 20, 2019, 03:58:12 PM
(https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5c3e10b2f92c694343cc71b9/master/w_727,c_limit/Rosner-Fast-Food-Trump.jpg)
Post by: Momo on August 20, 2019, 04:10:07 PM
Post by: Oblivion on August 20, 2019, 04:15:47 PM
i assume copying daddy trump? there was a good period where these dopes suddenly all loved mcdonalds because of donny
(https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5c3e10b2f92c694343cc71b9/master/w_727,c_limit/Rosner-Fast-Food-Trump.jpg)
Chuds have always liked McDonalds.
Post by: nachobro on August 20, 2019, 06:04:37 PM
i'm just not trying to make it an identity
Post by: nachobro on August 20, 2019, 06:06:02 PM
Post by: benjipwns on August 20, 2019, 07:58:40 PM
Okay, I'm even more curious know, wtf is orange man doing with 3000 crap burgers :/Aside from the above stuff, Trump legitimately does love fast food. KFC is a top favorite.
IIRC, his kids and wives have all hated it. :lol
Post by: shosta on August 20, 2019, 08:01:19 PM
Post by: agrajag on August 20, 2019, 08:11:13 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/iLxnwKn.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/gs1P6zB.jpg)
Post by: Oblivion on August 20, 2019, 10:09:43 PM
kfc :lawd
Post by: benjipwns on August 20, 2019, 11:35:14 PM
https://twitter.com/jimgeraghty/status/1163863313589161985
https://twitter.com/jimgeraghty/status/1163864227985141760
https://twitter.com/jimgeraghty/status/1163864622123950080
https://twitter.com/jimgeraghty/status/1163865121623564288
https://twitter.com/jimgeraghty/status/1163865508158103554
https://twitter.com/jimgeraghty/status/1163866645959520256
AMERICA REDEEMED, DEMOCRATS STAY LOSING
Post by: shosta on August 20, 2019, 11:37:05 PM
Post by: benjipwns on August 20, 2019, 11:42:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUcVUizyt1g
Post by: benjipwns on August 21, 2019, 01:37:31 AM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1163910412787732480
for shosta
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1163946883850625024
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Post by: shosta on August 21, 2019, 01:47:27 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/bQy1A7y.png)
Post by: shosta on August 21, 2019, 02:10:29 AM
definitely going to hatewatch this
Post by: VomKriege on August 21, 2019, 04:22:30 AM
Post by: benjipwns on August 22, 2019, 11:08:59 PM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1164669429617233926
i don't even have to really scroll anymore except past his RTs, i just check once a day at his last four tweets and there's always gold
Post by: benjipwns on August 22, 2019, 11:12:14 PM
https://notjordanpeterson.com/https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/blog-posts/i-didnt-say-that/
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Something very strange and disturbing happened to me this week. If it was just relevant to me, it wouldn’t be that important (except perhaps to me), and I wouldn’t be writing this column about it. But it’s something that is likely more important and more ominous than we can even imagine.
There are already common fraudulent schemes being perpetrated by both telephone and internet. One know as the “Grandparent Scam” is particularly reprehensible, first because it is perpetrated on elderly people who are, in general, more susceptible to tech-savvy criminals and second because it is based on the manipulation of familial love, trust, and compassion. The criminal running the Grandparent Scam calls or emails the victim, pretending to represent a grandchild who is now in trouble with the law or who needs money for a hospital bill for an injury that can’t be discussed, say, with parents, because of the moral trouble that might ensue. They generally call late at night—say at four in the morning—because that adds to the confusion. The preferred mechanism of money movement is wire transfer—and that’s a warning: don’t transfer money by wire without knowing for certain who is receiving it, because once it’s gone, it’s not coming back.
Now what if it was possible to conduct such a scam using the actual voice of the hypothetical victim? Worse, what if was possible to do so with voice and video image, indistinguishable from the real thing? If we’re not at that point now (and we probably are) we will be within months.
In April of this year, a company called Coding Elite exposed an artificial intelligence (AI) program that to a substantial sample of my voice, which is easily accessible on the YouTube lectures and podcasts that I have posted over the last years. In consequence, they were able to duplicate my manner of speaking with exceptional precision, starting out by producing versions of me rapping Eminem songs such as Lose Yourself (which has now garnered 250,000 views) and Rap God (which has only garnered 17,000) as well as Rock Lobster (1400 views). They have done something similar with Bernie Sanders (singing Dancing Queen), Donald Trump (Sweet Dreams) and Ben Shapiro, who also delivered Rap God. The company has a model, the address of which you can find on their YouTube channel, which allows the use to make Trump, Obama, Clinton or Sanders say anything whatsoever.
I happen to think Rap God is an amazing piece of work, and when I first encountered my verbal avatar belting out the lyrics I thought that it was cool, in a teenage tech-geek sort of way. And I suppose it was. This caused quite a stir on the net in April, with media companies such as Forbes and Motherboard (a division of Vice) noting that the machine learning technology only required six hours of original audio (that is, actually generated by me) to produce its credible fakes, matching rhythm, stress, sound and prose intonation.
This week, however, a company called notjordanpeterson.com put an AI engine online that allows anyone to type anything and have it reproduced in my voice. It’s hard to get access to or use the site, at the moment, presumably because it is currently attracting more traffic than its servers can handle.
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And what of the legality of this process? It seems to me that active and aware lawmakers would take immediate steps to make the unauthorized production of AI Deep Fakes a felony offense, at least in the case where the fake is being used to defame, damage or deceive. And it seems to be that we should perhaps throw caution to the wind, and make this an exceptionally wide-ranging law. We need to seriously consider the idea that someone’s voice is an integral part of their identity, of their reality, of their person—and that stealing that voice is a genuinely criminal act, regardless (perhaps) of intent. What’s the alternative? Are we entering a future where the only credible source of information will be direct personal contact? What’s that going to do to mass media, of all types? Why should we not assume that the noise to signal ratio will creep so high that all political and economic information disseminated broadly will be rendered completely untrustworthy?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXOhbLZ91WI
I can tell you from personal experience, for what that’s worth, that it is far from comforting to discover an entire website devoted to allowing whoever is inspired to do so produce audio clips imitating my voice delivering whatever content the user chooses—for serious, comic or malevolent purposes. I can’t imagine what the world will be like when we will truly be unable to distinguish the real from the unreal, or exercise any control whatsoever on what videos reveal about behaviors we never engaged in, or audio avatars broadcasting any opinion at all about anything at all. I see no defense, and a tremendously expanded opportunity for unscrupulous troublemakers to warp our personal and collective reality in any manner they see fit.
Wake up. The sanctity of your voice, and your image, is at serious risk. It’s hard to imagine a more serious challenge to the sense of shared, reliable reality that keeps us linked together in relative peace. The Deep Fake artists need to be stopped, using whatever legal means are necessary, as soon as possible.
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Unfortunately as I was processing the last part of the lyrics on notjordanpeterson.com, they shut down the service and I was unable to finish the song. The last portion of the song ended up sounding like Jordan was having a grand mal seizure. Maybe it had something to do with them turning everything off while it was processing. It's literally the sound of the website dying. RIP notjordanpeterson.com.
Quote from: https://notjordanpeterson.com/
In light of Dr. Peterson's response to the technology demonstrated by this site, which you can read here, and out of respect for Dr. Peterson, the functionality of the site will be disabled for the time being.
If you'd like to be informed if and when the site is operational again, or be notified when my blog post is published, please use the form below to subscribe to the mailing list (if it doesn't load/work try refreshing the page). You can also find me on Twitter (link below) and participate in the conversation about these technologies.
I will be writing a longer blog post this weekend that will outline my experience building the site, the public's reaction, where I think technologies like this are headed in the coming years, and what are some ways we can adjust to its existence as a society in a net positive way.
I was genuinely overwhelmed by the response to the site, which was only operational for one week. I'm encouraged by the many accounts I received from people who were interested in using this technology in positive ways, and I'm cautiously optimistic that we will be able to use technologies like this for the better, while minimizing their potential harm.
Post by: EchoRin on August 22, 2019, 11:41:40 PM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1164716990143111168
Sweet. I just wasted 20 minutes of my life. But at least I got to here Stefan say the word "fap" which got a chuckle out of me.
:beavis
Post by: Momo on August 23, 2019, 01:21:43 AM
:nope :nope
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 23, 2019, 11:12:27 PM
The last third is pretty good
Post by: Nintex on August 24, 2019, 12:40:17 PM
A literal wanker appears 8)
Post by: Momo on August 26, 2019, 01:01:31 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0NzYQvMw0sDidnt hear a single thing :mouf
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 26, 2019, 02:01:48 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh6rVbjH0Fo
:nope :nope
isn't that the guy floating by using his connections to the "progressive" guy who is a genocide-denier and named his program after genocide-enacters?
Post by: Momo on August 26, 2019, 02:08:22 AM
Post by: agrajag on August 26, 2019, 02:09:09 AM
https://twitter.com/socioEqualiser/status/1165720041469489153
Post by: VomKriege on August 26, 2019, 02:15:52 AM
Post by: Momo on August 26, 2019, 02:43:13 AM
Post by: Momo on August 26, 2019, 01:00:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEUX3Q1a1GQ
Post by: Rufus on August 26, 2019, 01:18:15 PM
Post by: VomKriege on August 26, 2019, 01:24:30 PM
Conservatives reacting to the NYT 1619 Project:I see that, and I raise you.It's sort of pointless... It's kind of like talking about the founding principles of the United States and saying we must talk about slavery.
https://twitter.com/FDRLST/status/1164567908896235521
:lol
Baby steps : At least we moved past the obvious fallacy that the Spanish did it all on their own because their party had horses and rifles.
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 26, 2019, 02:19:04 PM
I dont know where else to post this, I dont know who this is or where to find the original video, but I feel shosta needs to see this so he can stay safe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEUX3Q1a1GQ
well that was creepy
Post by: agrajag on August 26, 2019, 08:01:45 PM
Post by: agrajag on August 26, 2019, 08:47:14 PM
Post by: EchoRin on August 26, 2019, 09:57:49 PM
Or did he get fired by Quillette? So we are laughing at him for not even having a home on a crappy conservative publication?
Post by: Oblivion on August 26, 2019, 10:17:42 PM
https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1166146056448614406
looks like trouble in skull measuring paradise :brain
Post by: agrajag on August 26, 2019, 10:43:38 PM
https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1166165074068877312
Post by: Oblivion on August 26, 2019, 10:51:17 PM
sure jan
:neogaf
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on August 26, 2019, 10:52:47 PM
If we all agree that gender is a construct that hurts men and women and divides us in various ways, isn't it just better to yeet it?esch inching closer and closer towards social category nominalism :money
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 26, 2019, 11:22:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1xxcKCGljY&feature=youtu.be
The last third is pretty good
Her solution is sort of gender 'reformist', yeah? Why do we have to construct a notion of proper masc to replace the old one? I would suggest that there's danger in constructing a new correct, nontoxic masculinity in the place of a blatantly shit one. If we all agree that gender is a construct that hurts men and women and divides us in various ways, isn't it just better to yeet it?
Very :hitler for someone who clearly leans toward a libsoc mentality to say the left needs to tell those lost boys what to be and do. Sounds very authoritarian, no thanks Tatyana Tankikova.
She has mentioned that she doesn't believe that getting rid of gender is an achievable thing in previous videos.
Post by: agrajag on August 27, 2019, 12:39:33 AM
the photo they used for the article
:dead
Post by: Momo on August 27, 2019, 12:54:12 AM
why is Boxxy talking about pedophilesShe's pretty much just a social commentator now, heard a show of hers once and she sounded dumb, then heard another and she sounded alright so i've been checking in on and off.
Post by: agrajag on August 27, 2019, 12:57:48 AM
why is Boxxy talking about pedophilesShe's pretty much just a social commentator now, heard a show of hers once and she sounded dumb, then heard another and she sounded alright so i've been checking in on and off.
lol it's not Boxxy, but they look very much alike, hence my joke
Post by: EchoRin on August 27, 2019, 12:58:45 AM
why is Boxxy talking about pedophilesShe's pretty much just a social commentator now, heard a show of hers once and she sounded dumb, then heard another and she sounded alright so i've been checking in on and off.
Is she still dating that dude that uses some kind of knight armor as his avatar? Maybe "Knight" was even part of his name.
Post by: agrajag on August 27, 2019, 01:04:29 AM
why is Boxxy talking about pedophilesShe's pretty much just a social commentator now, heard a show of hers once and she sounded dumb, then heard another and she sounded alright so i've been checking in on and off.
Is she still dating that dude that uses some kind of knight armor as his avatar? Maybe "Knight" was even part of his name.
armored skeptic :lol
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 27, 2019, 01:05:58 AM
Post by: Momo on August 27, 2019, 01:06:07 AM
Post by: Brehvolution on August 27, 2019, 11:18:39 AM
I don't really know much of Ngo or Quillette so can someone fill me in a little bit? He is/was a journalist for that publication and decided to quit because some far right group was gonna protect him (from what? I know he got roughed up a little in Portland. Crying that those "darn Antifas huwt lil ol me") and he was gonna protect a far right group how? By virtue of his writing?https://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2019/08/26/27039560/undercover-in-patriot-prayer-insights-from-a-vancouver-democrat-whos-been-working-against-the-far-right-group-from-the-inside
Or did he get fired by Quillette? So we are laughing at him for not even having a home on a crappy conservative publication?
ngo was another common conservative grifter fraud that tried to make right wing violence look like left wing violence.
My favorite part of the article is how the only vetting these right wing groups do is that you say you hate the left. :lol
Post by: Rufus on August 27, 2019, 12:14:40 PM
yeah she's still dating that weirdo, it's weird cause she's pretty left leaning and he's a goober lmao, also I know it's not boxxy, I dunno why i answered that way but i assumed you meant why she isnt doing videos like her old ones :brainWhen you said you don't know who this person is, I assumed you meant her, not the dude. :lol
Skimming her Rationalwiki page makes her look like an opportunistic grifter.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 27, 2019, 09:55:00 PM
Post by: benjipwns on August 27, 2019, 09:55:37 PM
Post by: benjipwns on August 27, 2019, 09:55:45 PM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on August 28, 2019, 12:04:17 AM
Post by: Oblivion on August 28, 2019, 12:10:25 AM
https://twitter.com/AntiFashGordon/status/1166215901450067968
https://twitter.com/Xenos_RIFS/status/1166189257003687936
Post by: Momo on August 28, 2019, 01:21:51 AM
https://twitter.com/dpakman/status/1166511132997312512 (https://twitter.com/dpakman/status/1166511132997312512)
:brain
Post by: Mandark on August 28, 2019, 01:28:51 AM
C'mon man.
Post by: Oblivion on August 28, 2019, 04:22:21 AM
Post by: Momo on August 28, 2019, 04:27:58 AM
uh...what's the issue momo?Couple of things:
- I dont listen to David Pakman to get more orange man bad, he's generally pretty good at being principled. Adding Donald Trump into that is just unnecessary orange man bad. The story is about an asshole owner and an alleged asshole Bernie.
- No one in the media I have heard has ever claimed Trump is 'good' as this seems to imply - 'Trump sexually assaulted a dozen women, but Bernie is bad' at best people who defend him (I dont listen to far right commentators) are moderates who say he isnt as bad as the general media claims.
- 'Trump sexually assaulted a dozen women' literally fake news.
Post by: Momo on August 28, 2019, 05:50:12 AM
Things I dont expect to hear from Fox :dead
Post by: Momo on August 28, 2019, 05:54:15 AM
okay enough politweets for me for today :dead
Post by: Mandark on August 28, 2019, 12:53:11 PM
- 'Trump sexually assaulted a dozen women' literally fake news.
p sure well over a dozen women have accused him of some degree of sexual assault, from groping to rape
Post by: agrajag on August 28, 2019, 02:42:01 PM
https://twitter.com/XasthurWithin/status/1163441859215147008
Things I dont expect to hear from Fox :dead
the libs are whipping people into a frenzy of racial fear, says Fox News anchor
:foodcourt
Post by: Rufus on August 28, 2019, 03:03:39 PM
- No one in the media I have heard has ever claimed Trump is 'good' as this seems to imply - 'Trump sexually assaulted a dozen women, but Bernie is bad' at best people who defend him (I dont listen to far right commentators) are moderates who say he isnt as bad as the general media claims.He is replying to Sean Hannity. Fair implication, I think. And wide swathes of the US public do listen to far right commentators.
Post by: Momo on August 28, 2019, 04:59:49 PM
Post by: Momo on August 28, 2019, 05:18:30 PM
Feels like you were out of your element on this one, Momo.not really, I care about what I care about, which is mostly people I listen to playing it as straight as possible. Pakman is a smart bloke and I like what he has to say on a variety of topics, but I really can't stand culture war shit.
Post by: curly on August 28, 2019, 05:24:49 PM
Post by: naff on August 28, 2019, 10:11:09 PM
momo :piss2
Post by: naff on August 28, 2019, 10:20:38 PM
Post by: benjipwns on August 28, 2019, 10:27:24 PM
Post by: benjipwns on August 28, 2019, 10:31:27 PM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1166557589951451137
Post by: Oblivion on August 28, 2019, 10:39:43 PM
uh...what's the issue momo?Couple of things:
- I dont listen to David Pakman to get more orange man bad, he's generally pretty good at being principled. Adding Donald Trump into that is just unnecessary orange man bad. The story is about an asshole owner and an alleged asshole Bernie.
- No one in the media I have heard has ever claimed Trump is 'good' as this seems to imply - 'Trump sexually assaulted a dozen women, but Bernie is bad' at best people who defend him (I dont listen to far right commentators) are moderates who say he isnt as bad as the general media claims.
- 'Trump sexually assaulted a dozen women' literally fake news.
dude literally every single thing here is wrong lol
also, using the 'orange man bad' meme? something tells me you don't hate culture war stuff as much as you let on :doge
Post by: Oblivion on August 28, 2019, 10:41:25 PM
Bit of a side track but culture war as a term is such a broad, vague and nebulous one that I feel like it could literally apply to any and all arguments. So when is something not a "culture war"?
i'm of the opinion that such a thing is literally impossible.
Post by: agrajag on August 28, 2019, 10:48:26 PM
Post by: Momo on August 28, 2019, 11:41:21 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 28, 2019, 11:45:55 PM
Post by: Mandark on August 29, 2019, 02:39:43 AM
Feels like you were out of your element on this one, Momo.not really, I care about what I care about, which is mostly people I listen to playing it as straight as possible. Pakman is a smart bloke and I like what he has to say on a variety of topics, but I really can't stand culture war shit.
aight but you made a couple factual claims that were just straight up wrong and have been corrected in the thread and you haven't owned up to
Post by: Momo on August 29, 2019, 03:15:22 AM
Post by: Mandark on August 29, 2019, 03:27:36 AM
they arent wrong though, I chose not to engage with you because I cant be arsed.
homie this is your fourth reply since getting corrected nobody's buying this shit
Post by: Momo on August 29, 2019, 03:34:43 AM
Post by: team filler on August 29, 2019, 03:39:58 AM
:foodcourtthey arent wrong though, I chose not to engage with you because I cant be arsed.
homie this is your fourth reply since getting corrected nobody's buying this shit
Post by: Mandark on August 29, 2019, 04:11:49 AM
I chose not to engage with you, galaxy brain, also Oblivion because he randomly accused me of stuff when he could have just asked.
you're engaging with me now
Post by: Momo on August 29, 2019, 04:17:29 AM
It's a different day my being nice quota reset :idontI chose not to engage with you, galaxy brain, also Oblivion because he randomly accused me of stuff when he could have just asked.
you're engaging with me now
Post by: team filler on August 29, 2019, 04:36:46 AM
Post by: Momo on August 29, 2019, 05:12:26 AM
Forget that Momo. My question was genuine: what would you say isn't "culture war"? Cause I think you have a different way of looking at it.There's 4 or 5 main components of what I see as culture war products that annoy me, one much more so than others.
1) politicization of entertainment, be it comedy or games or comics or whatever. It's infuriating having to deal with people REEEEing that Dave Chapelle made a joke and it's also infuriating that people rally against things like America Chavez getting a Marvel TV show. Who cares, fuck off both camps, dont watch it.
2) Trump derangement syndrome, making everything about Trump (like reverse thanks Obama) and or being opposed to anything he does even when good because hey it's Trump.
3) News commentators (thing i care about most), misrepresentation of your opponents and facts so you can get a dunk on the libs/conservatives/MCU/DC, I care mostly about this because it impacts conversations I have with others as you have to first wade through the garbage to get to an actual conversation and mostly by then everyone's checked out of the topic. Dont care if people here do it because it's just fun and jokes, I do care when it's Pakman.
If you want to know more about my personal politics ask, but in general I'm liberal with a tinge of libertarian when it comes to government our government is absolutely worthless and I want them to fuck off. I dont talk about politics too often because you're all Americans and it's waaay to different from here, but it's hard to avoid since american culture dominates every English speaking talking space on the internet.
Post by: Momo on August 29, 2019, 05:13:14 AM
Post by: Mandark on August 29, 2019, 05:32:58 AM
tryna solve this problem through online autodidacticism and preemptively dismissing any ideas that seem too partisan just creates more problems than it solves. you're not only refusing to consider a whole host of ideas, you're not even considering how those viewpoints became so widely held, and what cultural trends (or, ahem, material conditions) brought us to this point.
plus giving a clean slate means sabotaging your bullshit detector. "jordan peterson is a reactionary sexist" maybe feels reductive or too much like a jezebel post for comfort, but it also has the benefit of being true, immediately obvious, and predictive of all his statements about sex and gender.
that reminds me I need to yell at shosta more for that. I mean goddam.
Post by: Mandark on August 29, 2019, 05:37:44 AM
cause if your self-conception is as someone who plays it straight, doesn't tolerate mischaracterizations of shit, then it behooves you to back up a statement like that. unless you just want the veneer of above-the-fray objectivity without backing it up.
Post by: Momo on August 29, 2019, 05:38:20 AM
Post by: Momo on August 29, 2019, 05:40:42 AM
tbh I really wanna know how the long list of accusations against trump for sexual assault are "fake news."David Pakman didn't present them as accusations and this goes into what im saying about people misrepresenting things to get a dunk. I get twitter isnt a medium that allows you to be verbose, however he chose not to keep it in his pants when he easily could have or just tweeted about how dumb the Bernie thing is, sans Trump.
Post by: Momo on August 29, 2019, 05:47:31 AM
I would still like to know what doesn't count as culture wars to you?Do you mean in a political sense? News? The culture wars is pretty much limited to the alliance of anti-intersectional-fems/conservatives/centrists/trumpeters against intersectional-fems/further-leftist/ant-trumpers fighting each other, the issue is it spans waay too many topics. I'm not convinced the first group of people even like each other tbh :lol
Post by: Momo on August 29, 2019, 05:52:22 AM
In that specific context Sean Hannity is a well know Trump dick rider, and he was going at Bernie for being a candidate that could face Trump. So it's not exactly shocking that trump would be brought there.It doesn't matter to me who it is. I'm not trying to remove the context, I'm saying despite the context he can be better, I expect him to be better and I want him to be better as this isnt why im a listener. Tbh he doesnt do this really in podcast/interview form and yesterday was one of the 5 days a year i chose to open twitter.
I do get what you mean by your earlier posts. Be it anime or comics you'd like to discuss something without it being a political debate, hell I relate to that fully. Especially when it's full on this is either SJW or Alt-right when it doesn't have to be. But my argument with you on that very example is that it was political to the US from the jump, so any reply was going to be that.
I dont mind him being political, he was replying to a politically charged guy about a politician, being political isnt the issue, trying to get a dunk by doing 2 and 3 on my list is my issue.
Post by: shosta on August 29, 2019, 06:27:39 AM
that reminds me I need to yell at shosta more for that. I mean goddam.this is so passé. New shosta makes outrageously wrong analyses of the media every week, like this time I blatantly lied to you just to save face. (http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=44608.msg2558265#msg2558265)
Post by: Rufus on August 29, 2019, 06:43:37 AM
I still don't see how 2) applies in this case. Sean Hannity is a prominent Fox News host who has defended Trump in the past (Trump tacitly admitted to expecting support from them, cause he was upset they criticised him for a change). Bringing up his double standards when he goes after Sanders for something minor is perfectly valid. Should he have held off because Trump is otherwise being bashed unfairly just to 'balance' the scales?
1) politicization of entertainment, be it comedy or games or comics or whatever. It's infuriating having to deal with people REEEEing that Dave Chapelle made a joke and it's also infuriating that people rally against things like America Chavez getting a Marvel TV show. Who cares, fuck off both camps, dont watch it.
2) Trump derangement syndrome, making everything about Trump (like reverse thanks Obama) and or being opposed to anything he does even when good because hey it's Trump.
3) News commentators (thing i care about most), misrepresentation of your opponents and facts so you can get a dunk on the libs/conservatives/MCU/DC, I care mostly about this because it impacts conversations I have with others as you have to first wade through the garbage to get to an actual conversation and mostly by then everyone's checked out of the topic. Dont care if people here do it because it's just fun and jokes, I do care when it's Pakman.
I'm calling reflexive anti-cirklejerk. I've been there, cause I don't like zealotry either.
Post by: Mandark on August 29, 2019, 06:57:41 AM
reflexive anti-cirklejerk
well shit I wrote a whole damn carepost and Rufus just dinner for ones it
Post by: Momo on August 29, 2019, 07:18:33 AM
Anti-circlejerk against a guy i like in favor of a guy i dislike. You can call whatever you want my dude.I still don't see how 2) applies in this case. Sean Hannity is a prominent Fox News host who has defended Trump in the past (Trump tacitly admitted to expecting support from them, cause he was upset they criticised him for a change). Bringing up his double standards when he goes after Sanders for something minor is perfectly valid. Should he have held off because Trump is otherwise being bashed unfairly just to 'balance' the scales?
1) politicization of entertainment, be it comedy or games or comics or whatever. It's infuriating having to deal with people REEEEing that Dave Chapelle made a joke and it's also infuriating that people rally against things like America Chavez getting a Marvel TV show. Who cares, fuck off both camps, dont watch it.
2) Trump derangement syndrome, making everything about Trump (like reverse thanks Obama) and or being opposed to anything he does even when good because hey it's Trump.
3) News commentators (thing i care about most), misrepresentation of your opponents and facts so you can get a dunk on the libs/conservatives/MCU/DC, I care mostly about this because it impacts conversations I have with others as you have to first wade through the garbage to get to an actual conversation and mostly by then everyone's checked out of the topic. Dont care if people here do it because it's just fun and jokes, I do care when it's Pakman.
I'm calling reflexive anti-cirklejerk. I've been there, cause I don't like zealotry either.
Post by: agrajag on August 29, 2019, 11:25:39 AM
https://twitter.com/Ad_Inifinitum/status/1167095529379155969
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on August 29, 2019, 04:15:40 PM
Bit of a side track but culture war as a term is such a broad, vague and nebulous one that I feel like it could literally apply to any and all arguments. So when is something not a "culture war"?sloppy prima facie take: ’culture’ in general is a black box in which to throw whatever doesn’t fit/can’t be accounted for. it’s an explanation for when you don’t actually have an explanation
fake edit: the concept behind the term ‘culture’ can obviously be fleshed out by whoever’s using it. but imo the resulting definition is always too narrow for the kind of work we expect the colloquial term ‘culture’ to perform
Post by: naff on August 29, 2019, 04:20:17 PM
:lol
Alternative way to let people know you're a libertarian without having to say "as a libertarian": Bring up sexual age of consent laws for no reason
I mean, what's next? I'll need a licence to use my toaster!?
Post by: Oblivion on August 29, 2019, 11:34:54 PM
I chose not to engage with you, galaxy brain, also Oblivion because he randomly accused me of stuff when he could have just asked.
whoa, whoa WHOA
let's go back to what i ACTUALLY said:
uh...what's the issue momo?
Couple of things:
- I dont listen to David Pakman to get more orange man bad, he's generally pretty good at being principled. Adding Donald Trump into that is just unnecessary orange man bad. The story is about an asshole owner and an alleged asshole Bernie.
- No one in the media I have heard has ever claimed Trump is 'good' as this seems to imply - 'Trump sexually assaulted a dozen women, but Bernie is bad' at best people who defend him (I dont listen to far right commentators) are moderates who say he isnt as bad as the general media claims.
- 'Trump sexually assaulted a dozen women' literally fake news.Quote
dude literally every single thing here is wrong lol
also, using the 'orange man bad' meme? something tells me you don't hate culture war stuff as much as you let on :doge
1. i said your previous statements were incorrect
2. i said you saying certain things led to certain assumptions being made
and these (or at least the latter) were bad enough that you felt the need to blow up at me? come on, son!
what's funny is that i actually sorta like ya, momo. and i've always been pretty civil to ya as far as i can recall. so i don't appreciate you assuming things about me cause of me assuming things about you! :punch
Post by: Oblivion on August 29, 2019, 11:38:26 PM
that reminds me I need to yell at shosta more for that. I mean goddam.
hell, not only a few weeks ago, the guy STILL tried to defend Daddy P! clearly someone needs more time in the re-education camps :cop
Post by: Momo on August 30, 2019, 01:15:11 AM
I mean right there in that quote you said 'something tells me you don't hate culture war stuff as much as you let on' and yeah we're pretty civil so sorry for not answering, I was actually annoyed that Mandark even replied to me, then I saw naff and you post about how I like the culture war and I just decided that's enough for me for today, again sorry :(I chose not to engage with you, galaxy brain, also Oblivion because he randomly accused me of stuff when he could have just asked.
whoa, whoa WHOA
let's go back to what i ACTUALLY said:uh...what's the issue momo?
Couple of things:
- I dont listen to David Pakman to get more orange man bad, he's generally pretty good at being principled. Adding Donald Trump into that is just unnecessary orange man bad. The story is about an asshole owner and an alleged asshole Bernie.
- No one in the media I have heard has ever claimed Trump is 'good' as this seems to imply - 'Trump sexually assaulted a dozen women, but Bernie is bad' at best people who defend him (I dont listen to far right commentators) are moderates who say he isnt as bad as the general media claims.
- 'Trump sexually assaulted a dozen women' literally fake news.Quote
dude literally every single thing here is wrong lol
also, using the 'orange man bad' meme? something tells me you don't hate culture war stuff as much as you let on :doge
1. i said your previous statements were incorrect
2. i said you saying certain things led to certain assumptions being made
and these (or at least the latter) were bad enough that you felt the need to blow up at me? come on, son!
what's funny is that i actually sorta like ya, momo. and i've always been pretty civil to ya as far as i can recall. so i don't appreciate you assuming things about me cause of me assuming things about you! :punch
Post by: Momo on August 30, 2019, 01:16:56 AM
orange man is bad thoThis is true, but I dont need people telling me orange man is bad when reading a Dave Chappelle comedy special review :idont
Post by: benjipwns on August 30, 2019, 09:11:01 AM
Bit of a side track but culture war as a term is such a broad, vague and nebulous one that I feel like it could literally apply to any and all arguments. So when is something not a "culture war"?There's actually a "proper" answer to this that's sorta obvious. It comes from Bismarck's Kulturkampf and while it was reflected in American lexicon during the first wave of MASSIVE UNCHECKED IMMIGRATION it wasn't truly established as a term until Pat Buchanan gave his speech, which I will link at the end here.
The amazing thing is that despite this and despite as has been noted the fact that it can truly mean almost anything, the common usage has been amazingly consistent since Bismarck. It's almost always a conflict between traditionalist views and liberal views; liberal in terms of permissive or accepting rather than "political liberalism" which is why you can have such quirks as alt-right Gamers fighting for women in games to dress however while the ResetERA.com male feminists demand they COVER UP. It's still traditionalism vs. liberalism, just depends on the issue for who stands where. Similarly, it's how the alliances against filthy hair bands and violent video games could include such "political liberals" as the Gore's and Hillary as much as Pat Robertson, while certain "political conservatives" felt more comfortable criticizing it but not wanting any kind of government intervention.
One side being religious groups, be that the Roman Catholic Church in Bismarckian Germany or The 700 Club in late 1980s America is more of a factor of religious practice being highly traditionalist than anything else. The United States often has a lot of these as cross cleavages on the "culture wars" because the Judeo-Christian founding mythology runs head long into the "freedom of speech" pride. On issues where that doesn't exist like gay rights or abortion there's a lot less of the crosscutting between groups that wouldn't be allies.
My main personal gripe with the "culture wars" is how easily it grabs and dominates attention and discussion, in part because it's a lot of gut feeling based stuff, even here on the cynical intellectual salon The Bire look at how stuff will swallow up, say, the garbage thread for SERIOUS DEBATE, it's almost all "culture war" nonsense that convinces no one.
As promised, Pat Buchanan warning us about the Clintons War On America in Classic 30 Minute YouTube form:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2olwuAy3_og
An ending clip, described by the uploader as "The moving conclusion of Pat Buchanan's Culture War Speech"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO2wzdOCqr8
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Michael DAntonio
3 years ago
THAT GREAT 1992 RNC SPEECH - THE GREATEST SPEECH I EVER HEARD - ONE THAT HAD INSPIRED ME TO TEARS, PUNCHING THE FLOOR YELLING, "THANK YOU PAT!" THAT RNC SPEECH WAS WRITTEN AND DELIVERED BY MY 2000 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION WRITE-IN CHOICE, THE REFORM PARTY CANDIDATE - THE GREAT PATRICK J. BUCHANAN! GOD BLESS AMERICA AND GOD BLESS PATRICK JOSEPH BUCHANAN!
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Travis Hammer
8 months ago
Pat Buchanan and Ross Perot both saw the writing on the walls and predicted the problems we face today.
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AIKsupporter
1 year ago
it would take 24 years for his ideas to reach the White House but better late then never
Post by: Rufus on August 30, 2019, 10:27:58 AM
set to 1.25 or higher to save your sanity, the two guests read their scripts very slowly
Post by: Brehvolution on August 30, 2019, 12:07:31 PM
Post by: Mandark on August 30, 2019, 01:34:25 PM
which is why you can have such quirks as alt-right Gamers fighting for women in games to dress however while the ResetERA.com male feminists demand they COVER UP
just realized that benji thinks videogames are real and things are starting to make more sense now
Post by: agrajag on August 30, 2019, 06:32:56 PM
Post by: Oblivion on August 30, 2019, 08:19:17 PM
(https://pics.me.me/why-do-all-these-homosexuals-keep-sucking-my-cock-bruce-31205148.png)
Post by: EchoRin on August 30, 2019, 10:23:08 PM
Post by: shosta on August 30, 2019, 10:38:38 PM
Post by: benjipwns on August 30, 2019, 10:48:52 PM
They are real. I've actually even played some of them.which is why you can have such quirks as alt-right Gamers fighting for women in games to dress however while the ResetERA.com male feminists demand they COVER UP
just realized that benji thinks videogames are real and things are starting to make more sense now
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Quote from: https://www.resetera.com/threads/fans-are-disappointed-that-overwatch-still-doesnt-have-a-black-woman-hero.80148/post-14820973
Ashe's character, like many others, was created after the fact of her design. She exists as a foil to McCree because, upon settling on a design, they simply made her that way. We don't know how she would've been characterized as a black woman because Blizzard didn't give her the chance to be a black woman.
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Post by: agrajag on August 31, 2019, 12:39:44 AM
Post by: Oblivion on August 31, 2019, 12:45:33 AM
https://twitter.com/DavidKlion/status/1167578038483259394
https://twitter.com/AJentleson/status/1167599978489008128
https://twitter.com/nytopinion/status/1167618185052508160
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 31, 2019, 09:44:30 AM
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Post by: agrajag on August 31, 2019, 04:28:35 PM
Post by: EchoRin on August 31, 2019, 05:09:51 PM
https://youtu.be/fssFXlNk6vw
Seems kinda wank daddy even though I can't quite put my finger on it why. Maybe he's just the programmer stereotype living in a world of 1s and 0s where everything must be pure logic, insert coin into gumball machine, gumball pops out.
Post by: Rufus on August 31, 2019, 06:01:11 PM
As for wank dadness: Most of his videos are life and career advice and he can come off arrogant, I suppose, which is probably where you're getting the Wank Dad vibes from. Arrogance seems to be a core feature. Never struck me as reactionary though, just a guy who found success in his life and wants to vlog about it.
This particular video is purposefully light on detail, so it's hard to get a clear impression of what may have gone wrong. It does make him sound like he tried to pave over bumps in his relationship with money, but again, light on details, so... /shrug
Post by: EchoRin on August 31, 2019, 06:09:09 PM
Post by: Rufus on August 31, 2019, 06:16:28 PM
Well, I don't know anything about that. These two videos are about that. Haven't watched yet.
edit: sounds like monetizing his decently successful channel was the problem? and also mentions insane working hours. might be another reason for the strained relationship with his wife. :doge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pIJoPkh9IU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH9MRy8UbKs
Post by: EchoRin on August 31, 2019, 07:21:01 PM
https://youtu.be/zC1_Nojagh8
But I leave the true wank dads keep on keeping on rather than this fellow.
Post by: Rufus on August 31, 2019, 07:23:58 PM
Post by: D3RANG3D on September 01, 2019, 07:25:16 AM
Post by: VomKriege on September 01, 2019, 03:39:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxoOwF4sK8Y
I don't like digging for years old posts on the Internet to throw back at people.
*Does exactly just that*
Like I don't dispute bringing light to public information but the preciousness (here included) gets a bit much sometimes.
Post by: Momo on September 02, 2019, 12:19:58 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 02, 2019, 11:53:19 AM
Shoeonhead has been going hard into pedos lately, on one hand cool on the other, who really wants to be known as the pedo detective lmao
She looks like one of those 20-somethings that Chris Hanson uses to trick dudes into thinking they're meeting a 14 y/o.
Post by: benjipwns on September 03, 2019, 02:06:53 AM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1167608530284818439so this is how Stefan spent his weekend
(https://i.imgur.com/86pOLcS.png) (https://i.imgur.com/86pOLcS.png)
Post by: Momo on September 03, 2019, 02:27:56 AM
Prolly has a lot of seats around her house just in case someone needs oneShoeonhead has been going hard into pedos lately, on one hand cool on the other, who really wants to be known as the pedo detective lmao
She looks like one of those 20-somethings that Chris Hanson uses to trick dudes into thinking they're meeting a 14 y/o.
Post by: OnlyRegret on September 03, 2019, 02:31:27 AM
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Post by: agrajag on September 03, 2019, 10:58:34 AM
Post by: benjipwns on September 03, 2019, 11:04:08 AM
https://twitter.com/FairtexAZ/status/1168587567702278144
https://twitter.com/bearathometoo/status/1168641835755016192
https://twitter.com/FreoSceptic/status/1168886727269912578
https://twitter.com/Dow3141/status/1168899653536034817
Post by: agrajag on September 03, 2019, 11:08:25 AM
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Post by: Rufus on September 03, 2019, 11:38:15 AM
I love how you can always count on benji to go on a deep dumpster dive into the comment section :lolI always tap out early. I don't know how he does it.
Post by: team filler on September 03, 2019, 04:05:21 PM
Post by: agrajag on September 03, 2019, 10:51:59 PM
Post by: Momo on September 04, 2019, 11:59:29 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 04, 2019, 12:08:05 PM
What's a blazetv
420blazetv
Post by: agrajag on September 04, 2019, 12:09:06 PM
What's a blazetv
Glenn Beck's thing
Post by: Momo on September 04, 2019, 12:39:42 PM
does the set top box have smellovision? :aahWhat's a blazetv
420blazetv
Post by: team filler on September 04, 2019, 01:01:36 PM
Post by: benjipwns on September 05, 2019, 01:31:29 AM
*travels to Poland and looks up white supremacist marches*
Post by: benjipwns on September 05, 2019, 01:46:22 AM
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Former White House assistant Seb Gorka once suffered from debilitating lower back pain, but he is now miraculously “pain free” after taking a job hawking fish oil supplements — and you, too, can be rid of your bodily aches for a small subscription price of $19.95 plus shipping and handling.
Gorka, who was ousted by the Trump administration in 2017, lost his contributor gig at Fox News in March and has now moved onto the role of spokesperson for Relief Factor, a health and wellness company that sells an over-the-counter pain reliever with a main ingredient of fish oil.
“Sebastian Gorka here for Relief Factor. First of all, let me say I have never before endorsed a pain reliever, but when Pete and Seth Talbott, the father and son owners of Relief Factor, asked me to endorse their 100 percent drug free product, I absolutely couldn’t say no,” Gorka explains in a testimonial ad in which he is identified as a doctor. “Of course, I only said yes because after years of my personal lower back pain, I am now pain free.”
The ex-Trump aide, who also hosts a talk show on Salem Radio Network, goes on to tell viewers that he is finally “out of pain and chances are you can be in less or no pain too by ordering the three week quick start … [for] only $19.95.”
Gorka did not respond to Mediaite’s request for comment about his work for the company and Relief Factor’s effects on his lower back pain.
It's about the children apparently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03KDdlg84as
Post by: curly on September 05, 2019, 03:29:02 AM
Post by: benjipwns on September 05, 2019, 04:02:47 AM
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Evidently, his real problem with Twitter was not that it lets people unleash their ill-considered words to the public instantaneously, but that some of those rude words were about him. We know this because he provided a total of two (2) examples to back up his thesis of Twitter as a corrosive force in society. The first was the oft-cited case of Justine Sacco, whose ill-advised tweet turned into a national frenzy that ended with her losing her job. The second was a random person @-ing Bret Stephens with something gross.
Despite promising in the column that he was leaving the site forever, Stephens would remain on Twitter for 26 more months.
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There was a lot of windup to Bret Stephens ultimately just telling everyone that he’s taking his ball and going home, but those who stuck with it were rewarded with this (emphasis added)::lol
"After I took this job, one wag on Twitter wrote that he hoped I’d be “Danny Pearl-ed.” He must have found it funny. My 11-year-old son didn’t.”
Why was Bret Stephens making his son read rude tweets about Bret Stephens?
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 05, 2019, 09:24:20 AM
https://www.mediaite.com/online/suffer-from-debilitating-back-pain-so-does-seb-gorka-according-to-his-new-gig-as-spokesman-for-fish-oil-pills/QuoteFormer White House assistant Seb Gorka once suffered from debilitating lower back pain, but he is now miraculously “pain free” after taking a job hawking fish oil supplements — and you, too, can be rid of your bodily aches for a small subscription price of $19.95 plus shipping and handling.
Gorka, who was ousted by the Trump administration in 2017, lost his contributor gig at Fox News in March and has now moved onto the role of spokesperson for Relief Factor, a health and wellness company that sells an over-the-counter pain reliever with a main ingredient of fish oil.
“Sebastian Gorka here for Relief Factor. First of all, let me say I have never before endorsed a pain reliever, but when Pete and Seth Talbott, the father and son owners of Relief Factor, asked me to endorse their 100 percent drug free product, I absolutely couldn’t say no,” Gorka explains in a testimonial ad in which he is identified as a doctor. “Of course, I only said yes because after years of my personal lower back pain, I am now pain free.”
The ex-Trump aide, who also hosts a talk show on Salem Radio Network, goes on to tell viewers that he is finally “out of pain and chances are you can be in less or no pain too by ordering the three week quick start … [for] only $19.95.”
Gorka did not respond to Mediaite’s request for comment about his work for the company and Relief Factor’s effects on his lower back pain.
It's about the children apparently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03KDdlg84as
Buy fish oil pills to own the libs
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 05, 2019, 05:05:51 PM
Post by: EchoRin on September 05, 2019, 07:54:07 PM
Contrapoints deleted her Twitter lol.Any reason why? Too much crap to deal with from armchair wankdads? Feeling the twitter grind of having to have hot takes? Knocking down that Twitter addiction?
Post by: naff on September 05, 2019, 08:10:00 PM
Contrapoints deleted her Twitter lol.Any reason why? Too much crap to deal with from armchair wankdads? Feeling the twitter grind of having to have hot takes? Knocking down that Twitter addiction?
she made a post about disliking pronoun circles when it's all cishets except for her and twitter went off :brain
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 05, 2019, 08:11:07 PM
decent video on it
Post by: EchoRin on September 05, 2019, 08:14:02 PM
Edit: Watched the video. I feel them. Good vid.
Post by: curly on September 06, 2019, 12:28:58 AM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/CaviarEmptier/status/1169808985870000129
https://twitter.com/BullsCole/status/1169806714532614144
https://twitter.com/TytheGreat4/status/1169808502497452039
https://twitter.com/MistakenCMDR/status/1169810713222815744
https://twitter.com/BullsCole/status/1169806714532614144
https://twitter.com/TytheGreat4/status/1169808502497452039
https://twitter.com/MistakenCMDR/status/1169810713222815744
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Post by: Momo on September 06, 2019, 02:06:03 AM
This can't be real :lol
Post by: Nintex on September 06, 2019, 06:39:17 AM
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1169805921234694151Joe Rogan is the only media outlet that has a 2,5 hour interview with galaxy brain John Carmack about cars, the future, VR technology and the development of video games.spoiler (click to show/hide)https://twitter.com/CaviarEmptier/status/1169808985870000129
https://twitter.com/BullsCole/status/1169806714532614144
https://twitter.com/TytheGreat4/status/1169808502497452039
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Also the only channel with Alex Jones and Eddie Bravo sharing conspiracy theories and Elon Musk smoking weed.
He's top tier content wise.
The Onion has been going downhill after 2016. Was that video supposed to be funny?
There's plenty of jokes you can make about the Joe Rogan podcast. :doge
Post by: Brehvolution on September 06, 2019, 09:03:06 AM
Post by: team filler on September 06, 2019, 03:23:28 PM
Post by: Rufus on September 06, 2019, 03:37:08 PM
Post by: EchoRin on September 06, 2019, 04:18:38 PM
https://youtu.be/jGyPnN3hyrQ
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 06, 2019, 04:24:39 PM
Post by: EchoRin on September 06, 2019, 04:31:13 PM
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Pastor and exorcism stuff is always so scummy. But what the hell is the Jim Baker Show? :-X
Post by: VomKriege on September 06, 2019, 05:59:22 PM
I'm 12 minutes in. It's pretty good so far
Edit:
Pastor and exorcism stuff is always so scummy. But what the hell is the Jim Baker Show? :-X
He was a televangelist riding high on Prosperity Gospel drivel, got caught embezzling funds (shocking, I know), went to jail. Reinvented himself as an apocalyptic televangelist pushing survival crisis products to preppers. IIRC.
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 06, 2019, 06:08:30 PM
Post by: EchoRin on September 06, 2019, 06:20:13 PM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on September 06, 2019, 07:02:48 PM
How can any honest Christian watch him in, and I'm kinda annoyed of the term, good faith?lmao. you new to this?
Post by: Momo on September 06, 2019, 07:05:34 PM
Man. Reading that guys wiki. How can any honest Christian watch him in, and I'm kinda annoyed of the term, good faith? By anybody's standards this man is repulsive.I mean its religion, how many religious figures have banged kids or been a gay homophobe or fucks people's wives on the side? Religion is about power and having a congregation willing to cover your ass for a lot of these fucks
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 06, 2019, 07:30:30 PM
I'm 12 minutes in. It's pretty good so far
Edit:
Pastor and exorcism stuff is always so scummy. But what the hell is the Jim Baker Show? :-X
He was a televangelist riding high on Prosperity Gospel drivel, got caught embezzling funds (shocking, I know), went to jail. Reinvented himself as an apocalyptic televangelist pushing survival crisis products to preppers. IIRC.
Alan Dershowitz was his parole attorney. :dead
Post by: EchoRin on September 06, 2019, 08:33:39 PM
How can any honest Christian watch him in, and I'm kinda annoyed of the term, good faith?lmao. you new to this?
I mean no. But to rebound so well. It is what it is.
Post by: benjipwns on September 06, 2019, 10:20:32 PM
https://twitter.com/LitAnscombe/status/1170007426583683076god i hope this was deliberate
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Further research revealed that Mr. Glynn represented himself as a Ph.D. psychologist to several academic institutions (academic fraud), and under those credentials he published over 40 articles in 15 different publication outlets in 2019 alone (journalistic fraud).omg it's even better
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In 2016 Skeptic magazine published an article on “Guns and Games: The Relationship Between Violent Video Games and Gun Crimes in America” (Vol. 21, No. 1) by John Anthony Glynn, who identified himself as a Ph.D. psychologist and as a professor of psychology. After that initial publication he began emailing me regularly (120 times this past year), pitching stories on a variety of topics, including the evolutionary origins of humor, online gaming, cybercrime, masculinity, political correctness, social credits and privacy, dopamine, and suicide. In one email he clarified that he earned his Ph.D. in clinical psychology from the University of Hertfordshire in England. In another email he claimed “I am head of behavioral science at a medical school, XUSOM” (Xavier University School of Medicine in Aruba, an island off the coast of Venezuela), on the pretense of inviting me to speak there. More recently, he told me that he was applying for a professorship of psychology at the American University of Bahrain, Manama, for which he asked me to be a reference. On April 13, 2019 he told me that he got the job. On April 25, however, I received an email that should have set off my skeptical alarms more than it did, in which he asked to borrow money after, he said, Xavier Medical School “is a fraud, pure and simple; it lacks knowledgeable faculty, basic facilities” and he was never paid, but that he would pay me back upon his new professorship at the American University of Bahrain.:rofl
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I declined to lend him money, but felt a twinge of empathy for him, so I kept the communication channels open. Perhaps I should have taken a cue from an August 20, 2019 email where he inquired if I had… “Any interest in another piece discussing the proliferation of experts who actually lack expertise?”:dead :dead :dead :dead
Post by: benjipwns on September 06, 2019, 10:21:36 PM
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When he pitched the last article we published by him on suicide, Glynn assured me “As a psychologist, I would of course handle such a piece with care.”:lol
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Two of my former graduate students, and now professors, who also conduct research for Skeptic, became curious about Mr. Glynn’s credentials. They began by simply checking to see if Glynn was a professor of psychology at the American University of Bahrain (archive). Since the university wasn’t even open (it is supposed to open this Fall), that didn’t look promising, and his prior claimed professorship as the head of behavioral science at the Xavier University School of Medicine in Aruba was, by his own admission, a bust.:stahp
Post by: benjipwns on September 06, 2019, 10:23:00 PM
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I shared these documents with my associates and within an hour they sent a URL to a site (archive) that can produce that exact same diploma within minuteshttps://diplomamarket.com/how-university-of-hertfordshire-fake-certificate-can-keep-you-out-of-trouble/
:rofl
Post by: benjipwns on September 06, 2019, 10:27:47 PM
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I sent this letter to Glynn and asked “What is going on here?” He replied: “I am sorry, Michael. I never meant any harm. However, I’m no fraud.” I asked for further clarification: “Did you or did you not attend the University of Hertfordshire? Did you fake that diploma? Please give me the full story now of what is really happening.” Glynn then confessed:QuoteMichael, I deceived you. But please know that I never plagiarized any essay. Also, although I have taught at university, I have never, ever practiced as a psychologist. Never! And I never will. I worked in Korea, but at a language school, not university.
This was followed by a plea to keep the matter private.
Someone who would lie to this extent could be lying about not plagiarizing his work, so we ran the four Skeptic articles through the Turnitin plagiarism program. The results were negative; that is, he does not appear to have plagiarized the articles we published.
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The most egregious of the trove was an article Mr. Glynn wrote for Standpoint (June 26, 2019) titled “Overrated: PhDs” (archive), in which, with (in hindsight) ironic mockery, he proclaims:you so fucking got got :lolQuoteIs it worth pursuing a PhD? Sometimes, yes. If you wish to carve out a meaningful career in academia, a PhD is a must. However, if academia is not for you, think very carefully before signing up. After years of toil working towards a PhD in clinical psychology, I have been lucky enough to find a secure lecturing job.
lol at all the comments praising Schermer and Skeptic for catching this :derp
Post by: Rufus on September 06, 2019, 11:55:45 PM
Is there a more boring and dispassionately passionate/worried dude than Eric Weinstein?I've bookmarked this for tomorrow while I play PoE:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wq9x2QcZN0
So I'm definitely more boring.
Post by: Rufus on September 07, 2019, 12:02:02 AM
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American Thinker has resolved this by simply removing all references to his PhD.Honest, in a way.
SAD.
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Dr. Shermer,:delicious
Had Mr. Glynn not lied from the start, would you publish his articles? If yes, then why remove them? Just put a note at the beginning of the articles that the author fabricated his academic credentials but the article passed editorial review.
If you want to punish Mr. Glynn, wouldn’t the shame be enough? Or you could sue him for fraud. Had Hitler published the theory of relativity, we would still teach it in universities but history would still judge him as a mass murderer.
Post by: benjipwns on September 07, 2019, 02:47:41 AM
https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2019/09/06/breitbart-claims-progressive-scalp-reason-predictably-draws-wrongest-possible-conclusion/
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So Breitbart has taken a leftist scalp.
They discovered tweets by Dr. Jamie R. Riley, University of Alabama’s assistant vice president and dean of students, that show [shocked face::gasp] that a leftwing university educrat holds doctrinaire woke leftwing beliefs.
In my opinion, people holding that kind of philosophy should not be allowed within a thousand or so miles of any educational institution because his callous, privileged bigotry is going to be evident any time he has to deal with a white student or a conflict between a black student and a student of any other race or when he has to interact with campus police, particularly when either the cop or the student is white and the other isn’t. That said, there is nothing terribly exotic about his point of view in progressive circles. The New York Times has hired opinion writers with much worse on their Twitter timeline .
But, for whatever reason, Breitbart hit the sweet spot here and within 24-hours an embedded educrat was able to devote more time to fine tuning his bigotry:QuoteJackson Fuentes, press secretary for the UA Student Government Association, confirmed at 4:15 p.m. that Riley is no longer working at the University.
Robbie Soave at Reason takes it from there:QuoteMany pundits on the right constantly inveigh against cancel culture: the drive to shame, punish, and ultimately destroy people for having said something trivially offensive at some point. Comedian Dave Chapelle torched cancel culture in his recent Netflix special, and conservatives applauded. The clip of Chapelle scornfully imitating cancellers has been all over right-leaning media for the last two weeks.
I very much agree that cancel culture is bad. (In fact, it’s one of the main themes of my book.) But as long as the right is perfectly willing to enforce its own version of political correctness, it is difficult to to believe that they really agree in principle that you shouldn’t do this kind of thing. If you only defend the cancelled when you agree with them, then you’re not actually against cancelling. You’re just protecting your tribe.
Conservatives, please condemn Breitbart for this hit job and demand the immediate reinstatement of James Riley.
Ummm, no. Not just no thanks, but no f***ing thanks at all.
In this case, you can even–without having a “first class mind”–easily hold, in the words of F. Scott Fitzgerald, these two opposing thoughts.
On the one hand, we should all deplore the “cancel culture.” It is corrosive of civil society and it forces you to limit social contacts to people who are pretty like-minded because you have to be attuned to the fact that there is no such thing as a progressive who will not burn you down if you say an unguarded word. On a personal level, I’ve slowly removed from my social circle anyone whose politics I distrust because the risk of being around them is simply too great.
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Soave presents us with a false dichotomy. We can either actively work against a outlet that is (mostly) an ally to try to get a rabid, frothing leftist bigot reinstated. Or we’re hypocrites. That’s simply bullsh**.
The real issue is more analogous to the standoff between the US (that would be us) and the USSR (that would be their fellow travelers who masquerade as Americans today). The US was beset throughout the Cold War with people who claimed we should engage in unilateral nuclear disarmament because that would show the we really had no ill intent. I mean, if we didn’t intend to use nukes on the USSR then we really didn’t need several thousand of them, did we? (Bizarrely enough, you hear the same cretins and their philosophical descendants making the same argument about why the DPRK should not be expected to give up its nukes.) Under Reagan we were scolded that if we build better nukes (the neutron bomb) and developed SDI then we would be hypocrites. It didn’t take a genius to see that a) building nukes and SDI was necessary for our survival and b) holding them did not compromise our principles.
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So long as this kind of thing is permitted and rewarded, then we on the right have a very binary choice to make. We either unilaterally disarm and follow the lead of the “muh principles” gang, or we fight fire with fire.
To make matters worse, we have people who don’t really have our best interests at heart lecturing us on how we’re violating our principles by defending ourselves.
Sorry, that dog ain’t going to hunt. We’re wise to that game. A couple of years ago a writer going by the nom de guerre Warden at Ace of Spades laid it out perfectly:QuoteThere’s a frustrating game that the left plays with conservatives. It’s an Alinksy tactic called, “Make them live up to their values.” Now, living up to one’s values isn’t a bad thing, but setting high standards ultimately means that you’ll sometimes fall short.
The left loves to exploit these shortcomings–every Christian who falls short of perfection is a hypocrite; the social values candidate you voted for just got arrested for drunk driving. Haha, everything you believe and advocate is now discredited.
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They’re the fucking bullies. The left, with their smears, their witch hunts, their slanders, their insults, their riots, their violence, and their weaponizing of the federal bureaucracy.
There aren’t any rules anymore because the left only applies them one way. And in doing so, they’ve left what once was a civil compact between the two parties in smoldering ruins.
I have no personal investment in Donald Trump. He is a tool to punish the left and roll back their ill-gotten gains, no more and no less. If he succeeds even partially in those two things, then I’ll consider his election a win.
Further, I no longer have any investment in any particular political values, save one: The rules created by the left will be applied to the left as equally and punitively as they have applied them to the right. And when they beg for mercy, I’ll begin to reconsider. Or maybe not. Because fuck these people.
This new philosophy has freed me of more emotional angst that I can describe. Literally nothing the left says or does matters to me anymore. I don’t care about their tantrums. I don’t care about their accusations. I don’t care if they say Trump is lying. I don’t care if Trump is lying.
They created this Frankenstein. They own it. I am free of all obligation. I will never play defense again. I will attack, attack, attack, attack using their own tactics against them until they learn their lesson.
What I will not do is let them play my values against me ever again. I don’t need to prove that I’m better than them. I already know it.
So no, we’re not going to criticize Breitbart on this. No, we’re not going to demand that this Riley character be reinstated. No, we’re not going to defend figures on the left from suffering the same consequences anyone on the right would suffer under similar circumstances. Yes, we are going to do whatever we can to burn down anyone on the left who looks even vaguely vulnerable. And when y’all get tired of this tit-for-tat bullsh**, let us know and we can talk about next steps, but for right now it is strictly #NewRules, baby.
yes, of course I looked at the comments, spoilered for your protection you weak kneed leftist babies
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riderdan • 6 hours ago • edited
I'm very fond of the New Effing Rules, Baby! line.
If we were fighting against people with any moral or ethical standards beyond their monomaniacal drive towards a totalitarian state, I might be willing to cut them some slack. But we all know what every leftist wants: a country that sends conservatives to reeducation camps or literally to the ovens. This is no exaggeration, as those who are no longer our countrymen prove on an almost daily basis with their actual, physical violence.
You don't negotiate with cancer.
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gbenton • 3 hours ago • edited
The difference these halfwits don't understand is the left is not legitmate any longer as a political entity in this country. They want to destroy this country and promote Marxism which is completely antithetical to our Constitution. The only reason they still exist as a party is because of corruption in the media and brainwashing of our kids through schools and the culture war.
The 'right' stands for the Constitution, therefore America. The left is the enemy, therefore, whatever they stand for is wrong for America. So in this case, Breitbart claimed a scalp by exposing the enemy and he was forced out.
That's NOT cancel culture. When the left cancels someone, it's for reasons that are only of important to the left's sick ideology. This assclown lost his job because he's a hateful bigot and part of the problem. That's an undeniably good thing (unless you're a moron Never Trumper or libertarian, who I'm convinced basically are sleeper cells for the Marxists as all their preferred policies and actions all do one thing: help the left).
The proper stance toward the left is WAR. Their party must be destroyed as they want us dead or enslaved. Far as I'm concerned, if jobs and elections is all they lose, they should consider themselves lucky after what they collectively have done (and want to do).
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NormWilson • 2 hours ago
Many, if not most, of you are too young to remember.
We lost Korea, we lost Vietnam, we lost and are still losing in Iraq and Afghanistan for one reason and one reason only, we fought by our rules and our opponents had no rules, I'm a Viet nam era vet and I will not lose for that reason again.
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Post by: Rufus on September 07, 2019, 11:48:58 AM
Because I'm sensing a trend...The Tweet at the end blindsided me. :dead
https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2019/09/06/breitbart-claims-progressive-scalp-reason-predictably-draws-wrongest-possible-conclusion/
https://twitter.com/KurtSchlichter/status/1020423532969279489
Post by: Rufus on September 07, 2019, 03:34:11 PM
I literally can't even imagine how fucking dull this must be.Starts off amazing. From Fridman listing Joe Rogan as a public intellectual, to Weinstein claiming Tom Lehrer records inoculate children against "later malware". High hopes for this one. :lol
Post by: curly on September 07, 2019, 07:32:46 PM
probably got posted somewhere already but fucking hell this exchange
Post by: naff on September 07, 2019, 10:31:43 PM
Is there a more boring and dispassionately passionate/worried dude than Eric Weinstein?I've bookmarked this for tomorrow while I play PoE:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wq9x2QcZN0
So I'm definitely more boring.
I literally can't even imagine how fucking dull this must be.
It's like a shit caricature from an awkward Tim and Eric sketch that drags on for an hour
Post by: Rufus on September 07, 2019, 11:53:20 PM
They don't waste any time on IDW topics. Small mercies.
Fridman though is just a gushing fan throughout. Always deferential, rarely asking for clarification. "Beautifully put" had me groaning by the third time he said it. Comes off as though he's appreciating the rethoric more than the thoughts.
He's also got an interview with George Hotz (aka geohot) which is much better, for the simple fact that he's not as starstruck by him. Hotz is a (entertaining) madman.
Post by: Nintex on September 08, 2019, 03:02:57 PM
Post by: Momo on September 09, 2019, 01:22:11 AM
filler get in here :rejoice
Post by: agrajag on September 09, 2019, 02:02:09 PM
Milo: I'm a broke ass bitch
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/59n99q/milo-yiannopoulos-says-hes-broke
Post by: Crash Dummy on September 09, 2019, 02:55:59 PM
https://twitter.com/gwensnyderPHL/status/1171074102314110977 (https://twitter.com/gwensnyderPHL/status/1171074102314110977)
Post by: Yeti on September 09, 2019, 03:06:52 PM
Post by: VomKriege on September 09, 2019, 03:45:30 PM
Post by: Oblivion on September 09, 2019, 10:35:08 PM
Post by: agrajag on September 09, 2019, 11:46:52 PM
Post by: Oblivion on September 10, 2019, 12:00:12 AM
surprised Momo didn't post the 1.5 hour Pakman interview with Sam Harris
It it worth listening to?
Post by: agrajag on September 10, 2019, 12:04:26 AM
Post by: Momo on September 10, 2019, 12:52:44 AM
Post by: Oblivion on September 10, 2019, 12:55:16 AM
nah, Pakman basically let Harris ramble on unchallenged on all his usual straw men. It's a waste.
goddamn it
he did a great job with that idiot tim pool, so this is pretty disappointing
Post by: agrajag on September 10, 2019, 01:00:36 AM
why would i post that lol
cause you said you liked Pakman and I guessed maybe you like Harris
Post by: agrajag on September 10, 2019, 01:02:42 AM
cliffs notes:nah, Pakman basically let Harris ramble on unchallenged on all his usual straw men. It's a waste.
goddamn it
he did a great job with that idiot tim pool, so this is pretty disappointing
the left is obsessed with idpol, Trump wasn't racist when he told the squad to go home because they have funny names and he legitimately thought they were all foreign, lamented cancel culture and the backlash he received for giving Charles Murray a platform, claimed there's a fundamental difference between jihadists and white supremacist terrorists because white supremacists are mentally ill and "may have legitimate grievances "
all with almost no or very tepid pushback from Pakman.
Post by: Momo on September 10, 2019, 01:12:30 AM
If I did like both (I dont) then why would I post in the political mockery thread?why would i post that lol
cause you said you liked Pakman and I guessed maybe you like Harris
Post by: agrajag on September 10, 2019, 01:14:46 AM
If I did like both (I dont) then why would I post in the political mockery thread?why would i post that lol
cause you said you liked Pakman and I guessed maybe you like Harris
idk you post dumb stuff sometimes
Post by: Momo on September 10, 2019, 02:03:16 AM
your face is dumb stuffIf I did like both (I dont) then why would I post in the political mockery thread?why would i post that lol
cause you said you liked Pakman and I guessed maybe you like Harris
idk you post dumb stuff sometimes
Post by: Brehvolution on September 10, 2019, 08:59:04 AM
Post by: Momo on September 10, 2019, 10:02:37 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 10, 2019, 11:08:02 AM
:goty2
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 10, 2019, 01:16:57 PM
Post by: agrajag on September 10, 2019, 02:09:06 PM
this guy sure does tweet a lot
Post by: EchoRin on September 10, 2019, 02:31:26 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 10, 2019, 02:45:58 PM
Post by: VomKriege on September 10, 2019, 03:53:32 PM
I don't understand. But then I'm a petty loser (and a Monster drinking Gamer) and he is a Harvard man.
Sounds like a more refined version of the Vicsim / Crisis actor canard.
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 10, 2019, 04:44:39 PM
Post by: Nintex on September 10, 2019, 05:45:16 PM
Cigar dads :success
Post by: Momo on September 11, 2019, 01:12:21 AM
https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1170862866468986880
this guy sure does tweet a lot
Galaxy :brain(https://i.imgur.com/QovaCbM.jpg)
Post by: agrajag on September 11, 2019, 02:53:41 AM
Post by: benjipwns on September 11, 2019, 08:38:23 PM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1171839258618990593
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on September 11, 2019, 08:39:25 PM
Post by: agrajag on September 11, 2019, 09:03:53 PM
:holeup
https://twitter.com/prageru/status/1170487160216047616
https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1171095918986137600
:lol
Post by: benjipwns on September 11, 2019, 09:04:07 PM
I thought you said it's no longer Paris.
Post by: Oblivion on September 11, 2019, 11:08:05 PM
https://twitter.com/Xenos_RIFS/status/1171351031780761602
Post by: benjipwns on September 12, 2019, 04:33:58 AM
Post by: Rufus on September 12, 2019, 01:07:56 PM
https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1171095918986137600A group I don't count myself a part of doesn't (redundantly) shun me for questioning their orthodoxy, because they probably think me a heathen already, but a group I do count myself a part of... Hold on a minute!
:lol
In that interview I watched, he mentions that he feels constrained by 280 characters limits on Twitter, but I feel like he could have made his point better than this even with 140. :doge
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 12, 2019, 01:55:18 PM
Whites on the Left Coast and in New England are race traitors.
They don’t care about protecting our important freedoms, like drinking a 72oz Big Gulp with a plastic straw.
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on September 12, 2019, 06:51:03 PM
Post by: EchoRin on September 12, 2019, 07:14:45 PM
Post by: VomKriege on September 12, 2019, 07:17:41 PM
(People's) might make right. Marxism is scientific and basically
From Kant to BHL and Molyneux. :usacry
Post by: benjipwns on September 12, 2019, 07:24:12 PM
Stefan, could you maybe just light a blunt, watch some Thursday night football and shut the fuck up for a moment?No, he has to defend mankind, not engage in bread and circuses as civilization collapses!
Post by: VomKriege on September 12, 2019, 07:30:58 PM
Stefan, could you maybe just light a blunt, watch some Thursday night football and shut the fuck up for a moment?No, he has to defend mankind, not engage in bread and circuses as civilization collapses!
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Post by: VomKriege on September 12, 2019, 07:33:08 PM
Well it's not quite deterministic, the core idea of marxist social change is that the masses of classes make history through revolution and/or mass action, by seizing ownership of the means of production, and that your class and ideology is determined by your relation to those means of production. basically, people have to make it happen through action. marxism's "prescriptive" idea is to create a world sans class, and the only way to do that is for the masses to seize the means and develop them past the necessity for class society. If people don't do anything, then DotB will just continue indefinitely. i think in some of marx you can see attempts to describe capitalism of depriving humans of their species essence (gattungswesen) and i suppose this could be considered a moral argument of some sort. but i can't think of much else.
but i dont know if you're hitting me with sarcasm because i can't read good. im a dumb dumb
Oh no I was just (over)simplifying. Should have just kept the "Marxism is scientific" I guess.
Post by: shosta on September 12, 2019, 08:20:29 PM
To be honest I don't really know whether we have a way of objectively knowing whether history is driven by hegelian synthetic contradiction explosionsLuckily Marxism is a science and you can just test it with regression analysis
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on September 12, 2019, 08:29:49 PM
At the other end of the spectrum there’s another line of thought that ditches the ‘immortal science’ shtick and opens up talking about justice. They might claim that Marxist approaches are just better (normatively) at solving questions of distributive justice or whatever.
And there are others who try to split the difference through rhetorical legerdemain. Both the ‘scientific’ and the ‘normative theory’ strains are present in Marx (& Engels), and you need to jump through exegetical hoops and ladders to justify one or the other.
I bring up legitimacy specifically because even the ‘soft’ marxists would yeet that concept, even while keeping ‘justice’. ‘Legitimacy’ is hugely important to liberalism. At one obvious level, you already knew this because it’s a buzzword for an almost occult quality of international conduct or democratic procedure that normals have no other way of talking about. But even here in the hallowed halls of [checks sign above door] Higher EducationTM it’s of central concern to liberal divines like Rawls, Dworkin, et al. who use it to mean something like “what prevents the train full of masses from running off the rails”.
Molyneux here is actually being a dumbass in the normal way, by collapsing any distinction between ‘legitimacy’ and ‘moral rectitude’. And then he’s a dumbass in the molyneux way because Marxism has a different theory of violence too which he’d only know if he’d actually done the reading, but whatever.
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Post by: shosta on September 12, 2019, 08:31:10 PM
if anyone bothered to test things like socially necessary labor time and rates of profit (factoring in imperialism) with lv99 sergey brin fuck you money bayesian analysis that would be cool. i dont think anyone gives a fuck though. except dorks on the interbutts
Piketty did show labor share of profit declining steadily over time :ufup
Proof of the crisis of overproduction :rejoice
Post by: benjipwns on September 12, 2019, 08:31:16 PM
Luckily Marxism is a science and you can just test it with regression analysisYou understand nothing about science. It is true because it was revealed by the forces of history. :bolo
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 12, 2019, 09:26:51 PM
Post by: benjipwns on September 13, 2019, 12:13:11 AM
what im saying is if you write something bad you dont want published thendon't become famous and just fade into history forever obscure :success
Post by: benjipwns on September 13, 2019, 12:18:12 AM
https://twitter.com/getfiscal/status/1170294392042795008NO EXCUSES ANYMORE:
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Due to requests, Piketty produced his own summary before this even came out. It's only 30 pages.
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Post by: benjipwns on September 13, 2019, 12:34:45 AM
-translated from Interlac, 2976
Post by: Momo on September 13, 2019, 01:27:01 AM
who's this guy? i've seen his face before but i cant place itStefan, could you maybe just light a blunt, watch some Thursday night football and shut the fuck up for a moment?No, he has to defend mankind, not engage in bread and circuses as civilization collapses!
(https://i.imgflip.com/33rtry.jpg)
EDIT: never mind i see his name is in the picture, i dont know her.
Post by: benjipwns on September 13, 2019, 01:33:09 AM
I like that he can't even decide if he wants to be a fascist or a libertarian nfuckhe wants to eliminate the government, except for the part that ethnically cleanses all the non-whites and forces the women into modesty
moving towards anarcho-qutbist
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on September 13, 2019, 01:38:42 AM
basically, people have to make it happen through action. marxism's "prescriptive" idea is to create a world sans class, and the only way to do that is for the masses to seize the means and develop them past the necessity for class society. If people don't do anything, then DotB will just continue indefinitely.but the question’s about whether the people’s doing something is governed by inexorable covering laws something like the ones in the natural sciences, or whether it’s contingent and morally motivated. I don’t see how there’s any space here for a deterministicish approach, you either think the one or the other. If you want genuinely prescriptive marxism, then you need to really deflate your philosophy of history.
Post by: benjipwns on September 13, 2019, 01:46:10 AM
the one thing I remember making me go from like ignoring him as lame to just being confused/amused about the guy he had a panel like thing with Deirdre McCloskey where he kept rambling about random things as she looked miserable, at one point to answer some question she was describing whatever about guild economics in Britain and Molyneux says something like "well, no, actually in England, they had economic liberty" and rambled on about the importance of economic liberty, she looked like she wanted to murder him
Post by: Momo on September 13, 2019, 02:49:57 AM
what's this joe biden quote about?
Post by: benjipwns on September 13, 2019, 02:59:45 AM
https://mythinformed.org/support
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Events that bring differing minds together for good-faith discussions are needed to help depolarize our culture. Thuggary, intimidation and venue cancellations have only strengthened our commitment to provide more for our audience.
We are seeking legal counsel to push back on this injustice and ensure our events can continue into the future. Our goal is to raise $250,000 from our community to support the cause. Contributions of any amount are greatly appreciated. Initially the contract was signed by Mythinformed, subsequently we entered into a partnership with Minds.com and all parties agreed to operate under the original contract.
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Any remaining monies will be used to hold bigger and better events. These events are needed to help depolarize our culture. We want to send a message to extremists that thuggery and intimidation will only strengthen our resolve, not de-platform or weaken it.
Post by: VomKriege on September 13, 2019, 03:11:13 AM
who's this guy? i've seen his face before but i cant place it
EDIT: never mind i see his name is in the picture, i dont know her.
He's a discount-Alex Jones cool young dude from Great Britain. Was a regular guest at Infowars.
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on September 13, 2019, 03:12:54 AM
I think there's prescriptive intent inside Marx and Engels(wink wink nudge nudge. Y'all like Fourier? Now listen to this), but they spend the vast majority of their time on description.definitely. like I said above, both strains are in their writing. And we might want to fault them here for ambiguity or indeterminacy. Or not, idk.
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I thought we were arguing about whether it's morally justified or correct in a wrong/right sense based on molyneux tweet.yeah, this is what I mean by morally motivated. Both in the sense that i) the proletariat themselves have a conception of right/wrong and in the sense that ii) we, from our disengaged position, can say it’s right/wrong or better/worse than something else. Like, it’s a state of affairs which is susceptible of making value judgments of, I guess. The nomothetic/scientific marxism can maintain i) by incorporating people’s moral motivation as a part of the model, but can’t claim ii). Prescriptive marxism also maintains ii), and this makes it commensurable with rival political theories of justice, like liberalism, or whatever. Whereas it’s nonsensical to say that scientific marxism ‘competes’ with any ethical or political theory.
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on September 13, 2019, 03:28:12 AM
This seems like a stupidly obvious point but so much of the shuck and jive of (bad) marxist discourse rests on slipping between these two registers.
Post by: shosta on September 13, 2019, 06:57:35 AM
how is someone supposed to exactly quantify class struggle like its a football game in action?(https://i.imgur.com/wGKhanB.png)
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Post by: shosta on September 13, 2019, 07:04:43 AM
yeah, this is what I mean by morally motivated. Both in the sense that i) the proletariat themselves have a conception of right/wrong and in the sense that ii) we, from our disengaged position, can say it’s right/wrong or better/worse than something else. Like, it’s a state of affairs which is susceptible of making value judgments of, I guess. The nomothetic/scientific marxism can maintain i) by incorporating people’s moral motivation as a part of the model, but can’t claim ii). Prescriptive marxism also maintains ii), and this makes it commensurable with rival political theories of justice, like liberalism, or whatever. Whereas it’s nonsensical to say that scientific marxism ‘competes’ with any ethical or political theory.To quote NBC's The Good Place, "This is exactly why everyone hates moral philosophers."
Post by: benjipwns on September 13, 2019, 07:54:27 AM
(https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1564946040l/43618199.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iVSiIt5rio
Quote from: from timestamp 18:30
SEBASTIAN GORKA (HOST): California, New Mexico, Hawaii, Texas and Nevada now have majority-minority populations, and here we go with the most important one -- percentage of congressional districts with foreign-born populations above the national average, which went Democrat.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8x8bDNslH4
Percentage of congressional districts with foreign-born populations above the national average, that went Democrat -- 90 percent. Isn't that what it's about?
Isn't that why the Democrats don't want to have, for example, voter I.D.? To bump that number up to 100?
MICHELLE MALKIN: It's what it's all about, and you're not allowed to say it.
In fact, you have many of these Soros-subsidized or Soros-allied organizations that will immediately attack anyone who points to those numbers as somehow racist or xenophobic, or trafficking in what they call a conspiracy theory.
Now, the irony of it is that you have all of these left-wing academics, and many of these open-borders inc propagandists that will use the same numbers -- and if they're in their own comfortable chambers, will cheerlead and beat their chests about it --
GORKA: Celebrate it, right?
MALKIN: And they call it "demographic conquest."
GORKA: And this is what Clinton actually said in a speech to bankers, that you can now read, "my dream" -- this is the woman who was going to be president -- "my dream is a borderless hemisphere," if there are no borders from Canada to South America, there is no America. Am I right?
MALKIN: That's exactly right. That's what it's all about, and it needs to be spelled out.
https://twitter.com/michellemalkin/status/1172328647203553280
Post by: VomKriege on September 13, 2019, 08:06:36 AM
Post by: Momo on September 13, 2019, 08:43:08 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/t68Kqxn.jpg)
Holy bajeesus :noah
Post by: benjipwns on September 13, 2019, 09:12:43 AM
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 13, 2019, 09:14:03 AM
Post by: benjipwns on September 13, 2019, 09:16:22 AM
Post by: benjipwns on September 13, 2019, 01:21:24 PM
If there's a moral hook or sales point in Marxism, I don't think it's in the class portion. I think it's:In the USSR work is a duty and a matter of honor for every able-bodied citizen, in accordance with the principle: “He who does not work, neither shall he eat.”"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs".
Post by: BisMarckie on September 13, 2019, 01:26:01 PM
Post by: Mandark on September 13, 2019, 01:28:41 PM
The Queen Is Back! YAAAAAASSSS! The Wank Mom!
I checked a couple years ago to see what she was up to, and her big thing was being a fucking Daniel Holtzclaw truther.
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on September 13, 2019, 02:12:19 PM
To quote NBC's The Good Place, "This is exactly why everyone hates moral philosophers."(http://i.imgur.com/fkwzb0C.jpg)
Post by: curly on September 13, 2019, 04:05:07 PM
To quote NBC's The Good Place, "This is exactly why everyone hates moral philosophers."(http://i.imgur.com/fkwzb0C.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rvKX7Sn.png)
Post by: VomKriege on September 13, 2019, 05:31:04 PM
https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/12/20862696/pewdiepie-adl-donation-backlash-100-million-subscribers
Is this guy wearing an Iron Cross on his shoulder? :roflspoiler (click to show/hide)(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/0yXjx8e0k1TxF-JRTFWInUTV1J4=/0x0:712x361/1220x813/filters:focal(262x77:374x189):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/65232822/Screen_Shot_2019_09_11_at_1.20.21_AM.0.png)[close]
It's a somewhat ubiquitous iconic shape and even by itself it's possible to argue it's been a bit neutered (The label of Jeff Mills, which I don't particularly suspect of Neonazi sympathies, has a logo clearly reminiscent of it on top of being called Axis Records...) so who knows ? But yeah... You would expect he would be advised to play that extra-safe and just... You know... change sweaters.
Then again the whole thing has been such a clown show from beginning to end... Doesn't he have people to help him ?
Post by: VomKriege on September 13, 2019, 05:42:10 PM
https://www.georgianjournal.ge/society/35434-famous-youtuber-pewdiepie-wearing-demna-gvasalia.html (https://www.georgianjournal.ge/society/35434-famous-youtuber-pewdiepie-wearing-demna-gvasalia.html)
Post by: Nintex on September 14, 2019, 11:36:16 AM
Vodka and Aliens
Joe's on a roll
Post by: team filler on September 15, 2019, 11:16:34 AM
Post by: BIONIC on September 15, 2019, 12:48:31 PM
Post by: Momo on September 16, 2019, 01:09:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVo0YNZK_oY
Post by: team filler on September 16, 2019, 01:23:51 AM
Post by: team filler on September 16, 2019, 04:07:26 PM
:doge
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 16, 2019, 04:11:28 PM
Post by: team filler on September 16, 2019, 04:12:39 PM
:piss :supergay :piss2
;)
Post by: Crash Dummy on September 16, 2019, 04:32:32 PM
Post by: bluemax on September 16, 2019, 11:39:11 PM
Post by: team filler on September 17, 2019, 07:21:11 PM
Post by: benjipwns on September 17, 2019, 07:29:38 PM
:dead
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 17, 2019, 07:44:22 PM
Post by: EightBitNate on September 17, 2019, 07:47:55 PM
Post by: naff on September 17, 2019, 11:19:40 PM
Who the fuck willingly listens to Ben Shapiro with his chipmunk voice and spergy conservative talking points?
His fellow virgin midgets.
.
Post by: curly on September 17, 2019, 11:24:17 PM
Who the fuck willingly listens to Ben Shapiro with his chipmunk voice and spergy conservative talking points?
bork's a big fan
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 18, 2019, 10:05:34 AM
Who the fuck willingly listens to Ben Shapiro with his chipmunk voice and spergy conservative talking points?
His fellow virgin midgets.
.
Please it’s 2019, the politically correct term is manlets.
Post by: Rufus on September 18, 2019, 08:30:20 PM
It's like that time he naturally referred to a transwoman as she, then immediately corrected it to he.
Post by: shosta on September 18, 2019, 08:48:32 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 19, 2019, 11:49:59 AM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 19, 2019, 01:40:32 PM
Post by: Oblivion on September 20, 2019, 01:37:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPwaixIuTrU#t=120s
:rofl
Post by: team filler on September 20, 2019, 01:45:06 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 20, 2019, 01:54:58 PM
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Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 20, 2019, 04:36:17 PM
Post by: Mandark on September 20, 2019, 04:48:03 PM
Post by: Oblivion on September 20, 2019, 06:26:20 PM
Post by: EchoRin on September 20, 2019, 06:27:56 PM
Post by: kingv on September 20, 2019, 07:47:38 PM
Might as well have gotten addicted to cbd oil
Post by: Oblivion on September 20, 2019, 09:44:23 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 20, 2019, 10:42:27 PM
Post by: Oblivion on September 21, 2019, 01:49:58 AM
Post by: VomKriege on September 21, 2019, 02:01:27 AM
Post by: EchoRin on September 21, 2019, 06:07:04 AM
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 21, 2019, 06:17:38 AM
wait his wife was diagnosed with a terminal illness and is now ok?
The terminal illness is in rehab.
Post by: Oblivion on September 21, 2019, 04:31:28 PM
Post by: EchoRin on September 21, 2019, 09:19:38 PM
J Beep's good bud
Edit: I like how Rogan brings up the amendment that Jordan was losing his mind about. It passed and nothing he was terrified of happened. Genius.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 21, 2019, 09:47:26 PM
Post by: benjipwns on September 21, 2019, 11:26:52 PM
It's the one fucking rule. Don't just stop.
And his response to his wife getting a bad medical diagnosis is to just stop? Did he discuss this with Zizek first?
Post by: shosta on September 22, 2019, 01:58:52 AM
Post by: benjipwns on September 22, 2019, 02:50:00 AM
#SocialistShortagesDebunked
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 22, 2019, 05:12:32 AM
Post by: VomKriege on September 22, 2019, 05:41:12 AM
Post by: Nintex on September 22, 2019, 06:34:32 AM
Zizek: So you, you do drugs right
The wife probably has cancer and so forth and so forth
Your daughter wants to make love to machines
Peterson: :notlikethis
Post by: Oblivion on September 22, 2019, 05:53:54 PM
but look at that supply
#SocialistShortagesDebunked
that's not how you're supposed to do it, benji :wag
Post by: Oblivion on September 22, 2019, 05:55:32 PM
https://twitter.com/markgongloff/status/1175233411260268544 (https://twitter.com/markgongloff/status/1175233411260268544)
Post by: D3RANG3D on September 22, 2019, 06:06:20 PM
Post by: shosta on September 22, 2019, 06:15:49 PM
:bedroomeyes
Post by: Nintex on September 22, 2019, 06:44:24 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on September 22, 2019, 06:47:22 PM
Post by: benjipwns on September 22, 2019, 09:06:36 PM
To think that Dinesh has a presidential pardon and is pretty much untouchable now :dogePresidential pardons don't work like diplomatic immunity in Lethal Weapon 2.
Post by: Oblivion on September 23, 2019, 05:26:50 AM
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/71697085_2495567990534665_7257458096933437440_o.jpg?_nc_cat=102&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_oc=AQmNfVTZr003ojQsGjGV1XNd6Mxz2KjvfUaDni9_vTekXVCWeMcffFWAxxtOg7Q5KNM&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&tp=1&oh=9cb12768446727afd38f0a63b43c50f8&oe=5DF9AD61)
:bedroomeyes
https://twitter.com/GoadGatsby/status/1175935860644229122
Post by: BIONIC on September 23, 2019, 03:58:26 PM
:jeb
Post by: Oblivion on September 23, 2019, 05:13:28 PM
https://twitter.com/BobbyBigWheel/status/1176209909207228416
Post by: benjipwns on September 24, 2019, 10:53:42 PM
Post by: benjipwns on September 24, 2019, 10:57:57 PM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1176678722642096128
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1176649100676218881
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1176597176501317636
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1176574522209853444
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1176519811528056836
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1176348844310896640
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It's his birthday. :doge
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1176520797797658624
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1176667598601240577
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1176520797797658624
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1176667598601240577
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Post by: Momo on September 25, 2019, 02:04:51 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tivwABf1luU:bow2 :bow2
Post by: OnlyRegret on September 25, 2019, 02:44:22 AM
Post by: Momo on September 25, 2019, 02:46:31 AM
https://twitter.com/stephenglickman/status/1176060073140817921holy fucking shit :dead
:jeb
Post by: BIONIC on September 25, 2019, 03:02:28 AM
https://twitter.com/jmrphy/status/1176703990056267777
:pika
Post by: Momo on September 25, 2019, 03:27:36 AM
Post by: Oblivion on September 25, 2019, 03:32:12 AM
Post by: Momo on September 25, 2019, 03:35:47 AM
>horny
who unbanned James from twitter?
Post by: OnlyRegret on September 25, 2019, 03:40:35 AM
Post by: benjipwns on September 25, 2019, 03:45:43 AM
https://twitter.com/jmrphy/status/1176703990056267777look I mean this is how we decide if the royal no longer needs their regent so it makes complete sense to apply the standard consistently across the board
Post by: Oblivion on September 25, 2019, 03:47:48 AM
the profile blurb is a nice topper
https://twitter.com/benedict_rs/status/1176719654112378880
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 25, 2019, 07:27:48 AM
Post by: Brehvolution on September 25, 2019, 09:10:02 AM
out of the loop, what's a greta thunderberg
She told grown men they should be ashamed and the snowflakes went into blizzard mode.
Post by: team filler on September 25, 2019, 07:49:44 PM
:sistine
Post by: Momo on September 26, 2019, 12:36:06 AM
Post by: team filler on September 27, 2019, 09:13:00 AM
Post by: Momo on September 27, 2019, 09:16:05 AM
Post by: EchoRin on September 27, 2019, 12:45:28 PM
https://twitter.com/DavidDTSS/status/1177560935449464832
T.I.steps up to Kanye on all the MAGA crap and now is taking pictures with mega crap A Jones? :dizzy
Post by: OnlyRegret on September 27, 2019, 01:54:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_qNp_w52Q0
shame about the sandy hook harassment business otherwise gay frog man is some decent entertainment
well, memeable at least
Post by: VomKriege on September 27, 2019, 03:43:47 PM
Post by: Rufus on September 27, 2019, 03:57:49 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 27, 2019, 04:05:14 PM
Post by: shosta on September 27, 2019, 04:07:38 PM
Post by: VomKriege on September 27, 2019, 04:13:07 PM
:yeshrug
Post by: shosta on September 27, 2019, 04:21:36 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 27, 2019, 04:31:04 PM
Didn't we have the 13 year old alt right Youtuber a few months nths back already ?
:yeshrug
Are you thinking of Tucker Carlson?
Post by: Ghoul on September 27, 2019, 04:32:03 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 27, 2019, 05:48:25 PM
the full video isn't available but this has parts of it
https://globalnews.ca/news/5954272/toronto-van-attack-suspect-motive-interrogation-video/
edit: second video is better
edit:> didn't realize he actually interacted with Elliot Rodger.
Post by: shosta on September 27, 2019, 05:50:41 PM
Post by: team filler on September 27, 2019, 09:04:58 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on September 28, 2019, 02:26:27 AM
Post by: EightBitNate on September 28, 2019, 12:29:10 PM
Post by: shosta on September 28, 2019, 03:36:01 PM
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/71081200_10156914027968583_991521388151963648_o.jpg?_nc_cat=1&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_oc=AQnDQNFQy2Mm67WoZROxlM17_JuWXDEAx_dvfbYGWIrc_BD0vjFWfdk-GyDO_SOkMwM&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&tp=1&oh=a98b30a57e32a628c62004910d913828&oe=5DEEE7B4)
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 28, 2019, 03:56:55 PM
I need autistic feminism because...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tjqpE_uVvk
Post by: toku on September 28, 2019, 04:04:59 PM
Post by: team filler on September 29, 2019, 01:49:36 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on September 29, 2019, 03:29:48 AM
Post by: Brehvolution on September 30, 2019, 02:14:37 PM
(https://i.redd.it/fwyaeka22ap31.jpg)
https://twitter.com/BonerWizard/status/1177781125693018112
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Esteemed Borian™ sighting in the comments.
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Post by: team filler on September 30, 2019, 07:28:40 PM
Post by: team filler on September 30, 2019, 08:40:45 PM
Post by: EchoRin on September 30, 2019, 09:24:55 PM
https://twitter.com/marclamonthill/status/1178806316153917445
Does Stacy Dash use negative stereotypes against her own race?
Post by: shosta on September 30, 2019, 09:28:23 PM
This woman is FIFTY-TWO?? :drool
Post by: team filler on September 30, 2019, 09:29:11 PM
Post by: benjipwns on September 30, 2019, 10:58:00 PM
Post by: Momo on October 01, 2019, 12:47:21 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on October 01, 2019, 01:01:26 AM
does antifa count as a wank dad cause that video of them screaming at an old lady crossing the road is slaying me :lol
that was funny
Post by: Momo on October 01, 2019, 01:04:11 AM
Post by: VomKriege on October 01, 2019, 11:14:36 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 01, 2019, 11:16:40 AM
Post by: team filler on October 01, 2019, 04:48:58 PM
:curious
Post by: EchoRin on October 01, 2019, 05:43:06 PM
Post by: D3RANG3D on October 01, 2019, 05:43:36 PM
Post by: Brehvolution on October 02, 2019, 09:41:07 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 02, 2019, 10:09:05 AM
Post by: Yeti on October 02, 2019, 11:08:52 AM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 02, 2019, 03:56:46 PM
:lol
Post by: Rufus on October 02, 2019, 06:19:05 PM
Quote from: https://www.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/dc3fn7/update_on_the_big_man_hes_out_of_the_hospital_and/
According to Mikhaila, he just had an allergic reaction to the medicine and he is now doing fine. He's out of the hospital and we'll likely get an update from JBP himself soon.We tarnished dads reputation. Woops.
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 02, 2019, 07:52:23 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 02, 2019, 07:58:46 PM
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Pastor Robert Jeffress praised President Trump in an interview as the “most pro-religious liberty” president the country has ever had while also suggesting that Democrats might worship “the pagan god of the Old Testament Moloch,” who, he added, “allowed for child sacrifice.”
Post by: Momo on October 03, 2019, 01:32:13 AM
do these dumdasses think this makes them look good? :dead
Post by: benjipwns on October 03, 2019, 01:37:52 AM
Post by: team filler on October 03, 2019, 01:38:21 AM
:brain
Post by: OnlyRegret on October 03, 2019, 01:42:57 AM
That's not to say that sitting on a fat stack of Apple stock or whatever is something to scoff at. Nor that AOC's sentiment inherently flawed, just a matter of being pedantic.
Post by: shosta on October 03, 2019, 01:47:08 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on October 03, 2019, 01:48:05 AM
jettison humanity
Post by: Momo on October 03, 2019, 01:54:52 AM
I agree that wealth taxes are complicated, you should just expropriate the entire class in one historic act instead.(https://i.imgur.com/p8UFgDj.jpg)
Post by: shosta on October 03, 2019, 01:57:28 AM
Post by: Momo on October 03, 2019, 02:00:23 AM
Post by: shosta on October 03, 2019, 02:11:58 AM
https://twitter.com/gavinmuellerphd/status/1179635282779525121
Post by: benjipwns on October 03, 2019, 02:23:08 AM
For the briefest moment, the triumph of the Third Estate :aah
Can we give all the cities in the US french names and make them spend an absurd amount of time debating bread?https://store.steampowered.com/app/1098190/VersaillesVR__the_Palace_is_yours/
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 03, 2019, 10:30:52 AM
Can we give all the cities in the US french names and make them spend an absurd amount of time debating bread?
I've been to Paris, TX before. Literally shaking rn.
Post by: curly on October 05, 2019, 07:40:06 PM
Post by: curly on October 06, 2019, 10:26:52 PM
dude looks horny
Post by: curly on October 06, 2019, 11:47:49 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 07, 2019, 11:11:53 AM
:jeanluc
Post by: Momo on October 07, 2019, 01:23:51 PM
Tulsi o7
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 07, 2019, 01:38:19 PM
Post by: VomKriege on October 07, 2019, 01:38:57 PM
Post by: EchoRin on October 08, 2019, 10:28:08 PM
Saw this on Facebook. The person who posted this was against the tweet. No she actually doesn't even have "unnatural" hair color.
Post by: OnlyRegret on October 09, 2019, 01:09:46 AM
that, and its follow-up "dude, you know the intent is to signal to predators to stay back"
Post by: EchoRin on October 09, 2019, 01:17:26 AM
Post by: benjipwns on October 09, 2019, 03:20:44 AM
https://twitter.com/LydiaBurrell/status/1180597617664774147bus boy for five years -> YouTube business owner
this one weird trick, popcorn HATES him
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 09, 2019, 02:23:58 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 09, 2019, 04:30:51 PM
Post by: EchoRin on October 09, 2019, 05:17:18 PM
:ego
So kindly sit down when war is being discussed.
Post by: curly on October 10, 2019, 05:14:13 PM
https://twitter.com/PaulSkallas/status/1181739696470319105
Post by: naff on October 10, 2019, 07:41:55 PM
i hate the amount of molyneux tweets in this thread, but that is good. generally feels like low hanging fruit tho, dude is a complete idiot.
Post by: curly on October 10, 2019, 07:54:07 PM
Post by: naff on October 10, 2019, 07:54:38 PM
Post by: naff on October 10, 2019, 08:06:14 PM
is it because she is so adept at saying nothing?
Post by: shosta on October 10, 2019, 08:33:48 PM
Is it me or has this shit lost the traction it had just a year ago? Feels like I would hear randos bringing up all the time but now the audience seems to have moved on and all that's left are the hardcore dickriders.You can only say the same empty shit for so long. The fuel is spent.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 10, 2019, 08:38:50 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 10, 2019, 08:48:35 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 11, 2019, 01:44:53 AM
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New York Times opinion columnist and man who thinks it’s deeply important to engage in open debate Bret Stephens has backed out of an upcoming scheduled event at George Washington University, where he was set to discuss civil discourse online with professor Dave Karpf. The discussion would have put a bow on a highly public back-and-forth Stephens instigated a month and a half ago, but at the last minute, Stephens insisted that the event be closed to the public. When Karpf disagreed, Stephens pulled out entirely.
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At the time, Stephens told the Washington Post, “I’ve accepted [the invitation], and we will find a date in the fall.” Stephens and Karpf did indeed find a date in the fall, agreeing in September that the event would take place at GWU on Oct. 28. But with those plans in place, a mere two days before invitations were supposed to go out, Karpf says, Stephens suddenly raised a number of concerns with the event’s organizers.
Karpf said that he was only able to speak with me about Stephens’ main concern and the apparent deal-breaker. “The thing that I can share is that he had decided that he was only willing to come if we made it not a public event,” Karpf told me over the phone. “Students could be in the room, but he didn’t want to allow this story to continue anymore. They talked with him, and what it came down to was, the only way he’d do the event is if the public wasn’t allowed to see it. I said, ‘I think that’s really unreasonable.’ They came back to him and said, ‘Karpf thinks that’s unreasonable.’ And he said, ‘OK, we’re not doing it.’ ”
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When I reached out to Stephens for comment, he pointed me to the director of GWU’s School of Media and Public Affairs, writing over email, “Frank Sesno, copied on this note, can provide you with accurate information.” Sesno then followed up, writing, “We were unable to come to terms on the format of the event, which is why it is not taking place. There was a series of conversations and we never publicly announced the event because, as I say, we could not come to mutually acceptable terms on the format.”
Post by: Brehvolution on October 11, 2019, 09:45:31 AM
"OK. On this date and time."
"Uh, it needs to be closed to the public."
"LOL no."
"I'm out."(I was never in. I just play tough online. :shh)
Post by: benjipwns on October 11, 2019, 09:57:13 AM
I'll stick something on my todo pile of things I can get away with calling "work-related" and take a look at some of the sites like Quilette or whatever along with the semi-close orbiters to see if they've migrated onto other things or if it's just a rebuilding period where they're accumulating draft picks.
One thing, they might just be distracted as the election is heating up, doing lots of BIG OWNAGES of the Democratic candidates or similar. Maybe AOC, etc.
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 11, 2019, 11:54:14 AM
Post by: VomKriege on October 11, 2019, 12:14:18 PM
I say that because in France the most prominent equivalent figures is a bald, dumb, mysoginist "philosopher" (checks out) but more importantly an editorialist which got around through quite a collection of gigs for national newspapers, radios and TV shows and still has a pull in TV and politics (a guest to make a speech at the conservative party convention two weeks ago).
Post by: shosta on October 11, 2019, 12:26:22 PM
Post by: VomKriege on October 11, 2019, 01:01:51 PM
Madrun spoke of New Atheists but really Dawkins and Hitchens (unless I'm confused at what label they were attached to) are the only two that seemed to have any wide recognition.
Wank Dad is an oversaturated by mediocrity market, for sure.
Post by: shosta on October 11, 2019, 01:09:53 PM
Post by: Rufus on October 11, 2019, 01:23:38 PM
Eric Weinstein, Sam Harris also come to mind. I looked it up and apparently Dave Rubin is a member... lol. Not a deep bench.Add Christina Hoff Sommers, Eric's brother Brent, and Joe Rogan. They're the canonical set, I think.
Post by: Crash Dummy on October 11, 2019, 03:53:14 PM
Post by: EchoRin on October 11, 2019, 03:57:01 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 11, 2019, 03:57:34 PM
https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1182694698659569664 (https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1182694698659569664)
:badass
Post by: VomKriege on October 11, 2019, 04:09:10 PM
Post by: VomKriege on October 11, 2019, 04:12:17 PM
Post by: Brehvolution on October 11, 2019, 04:31:05 PM
Post by: VomKriege on October 12, 2019, 02:36:38 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 12, 2019, 08:32:41 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 13, 2019, 12:33:25 AM
Post by: Oblivion on October 14, 2019, 05:29:19 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 14, 2019, 06:09:51 PM
Post by: EchoRin on October 14, 2019, 06:25:18 PM
Post by: samir on October 14, 2019, 06:57:52 PM
Post by: naff on October 14, 2019, 11:16:06 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 17, 2019, 09:55:23 PM
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After devolving into a fit of muttering about how cool he was in 2016, Peterson began shakin uncontrollably, then broke down crying in front of his interviewer.
As the interviewer tried consoling Peterson about how great his accomplishments were, Peterson began crying even harder, then began describing how important of a person he is because he reminded a generation of buckos to regularly rinse their phalluses with water and soap.
@ 14:45 he begins breaking down as he describes the relentless bullying he receives on twitter, saying he can't even sign into his account any longer.
Between 24:00 and 27:00 his eyes overflow with tears and he begins sobbing as he explains
Post by: naff on October 17, 2019, 10:02:03 PM
Post by: naff on October 17, 2019, 10:07:38 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 17, 2019, 10:51:25 PM
Post by: VomKriege on October 19, 2019, 11:55:27 AM
Post by: VomKriege on October 19, 2019, 11:56:51 AM
Guys like Steven Crowder and Tim Pool are blatantly dumb as shit,
https://youtu.be/HxYVbC283uM
I made it 10 seconds before stopping.
Post by: Rufus on October 19, 2019, 12:07:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzOn9M2KucwThat's from /pol/? Huh. Is he not radical enough for them? edit: superficial survey indicates that, yes, yes he is too tame for them; possibly a plant of ze jooce🐙QuoteAfter devolving into a fit of muttering about how cool he was in 2016, Peterson began shakin uncontrollably, then broke down crying in front of his interviewer.
As the interviewer tried consoling Peterson about how great his accomplishments were, Peterson began crying even harder, then began describing how important of a person he is because he reminded a generation of buckos to regularly rinse their phalluses with water and soap.
@ 14:45 he begins breaking down as he describes the relentless bullying he receives on twitter, saying he can't even sign into his account any longer.
Between 24:00 and 27:00 his eyes overflow with tears and he begins sobbing as he explains
Post by: Crash Dummy on October 19, 2019, 12:59:27 PM
I was going to say, I have anxiety issues and I have broken down - not quite like this in public but close. The dude is a fraud but I feel bad watching that.same, i stopped watching after a point. curious how this'll impact his work though
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 19, 2019, 01:41:13 PM
Post by: agrajag on October 19, 2019, 05:42:31 PM
https://twitter.com/LizardRumsfeld/status/1185670973883899904
Post by: benjipwns on October 19, 2019, 05:50:42 PM
https://twitter.com/RationalDis/status/1185605154227281921
Post by: agrajag on October 19, 2019, 06:35:07 PM
https://twitter.com/LizardRumsfeld/status/1185682847471943680
Post by: benjipwns on October 19, 2019, 06:39:23 PM
Post by: curly on October 19, 2019, 06:48:18 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 19, 2019, 06:49:25 PM
Guys like Steven Crowder and Tim Pool are blatantly dumb as shit,
https://youtu.be/HxYVbC283uM
I made it 10 seconds before stopping.
I didn't even finish reading the title of the video.
Post by: benjipwns on October 19, 2019, 08:45:57 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 19, 2019, 09:07:03 PM
https://twitter.com/johnsolomonbain/status/1184693532222775296
Citation Needed on #6 :wtf
Post by: agrajag on October 19, 2019, 09:14:21 PM
Post by: shosta on October 19, 2019, 09:21:50 PM
Post by: curly on October 19, 2019, 09:40:33 PM
This thread needs more statue avatar posts. Molyneux is sort of in that category (a fascist who borrows heavily from feudalism and antiquity) but he doesn't take it to the extreme like some of these @ClassicalMan guys do :lawd
Fave part of these types is their tendency to prefer comically oversexualized bastardizations of classical art to the original article.
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 19, 2019, 10:12:52 PM
11. All had lice
12. All had crabs
13. All had giant stinky bushes
14. All had dirty assholes
15. All died of old age in their 30s.
Post by: shosta on October 19, 2019, 10:16:05 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 19, 2019, 11:05:30 PM
15. All died of old age in their 30s.But those vacations...
Post by: EchoRin on October 19, 2019, 11:12:07 PM
Guys like Steven Crowder and Tim Pool are blatantly dumb as shit,
https://youtu.be/HxYVbC283uM
I made it 10 seconds before stopping.
I made it all the way. Unsurprisingly he comes off like a triggered snowflake little bitch that is being obtuse for the sake of comforting the person that thinks white people are being oppressed in America.
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 19, 2019, 11:22:11 PM
15. All died of old age in their 30s.But those vacations...
You and your tradwife and your 18 kids can celebrate LobsterFest in the next town over, where there’s slightly less dysentery.
Post by: Rufus on October 20, 2019, 08:09:02 AM
do fashies care about GMO stuff?Search terms: Rudolf Steiner, Anthroposophy, and Waldorf schools.
I apologize in advance. :doge
Post by: Oblivion on October 20, 2019, 11:59:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzOn9M2KucwQuoteAfter devolving into a fit of muttering about how cool he was in 2016, Peterson began shakin uncontrollably, then broke down crying in front of his interviewer.
As the interviewer tried consoling Peterson about how great his accomplishments were, Peterson began crying even harder, then began describing how important of a person he is because he reminded a generation of buckos to regularly rinse their phalluses with water and soap.
@ 14:45 he begins breaking down as he describes the relentless bullying he receives on twitter, saying he can't even sign into his account any longer.
Between 24:00 and 27:00 his eyes overflow with tears and he begins sobbing as he explains
lol this rules
Post by: Tripon on October 20, 2019, 02:41:34 PM
Post by: agrajag on October 20, 2019, 03:47:45 PM
https://twitter.com/Politicon/status/1184148256999301120
did you see the Mooch, Jesse Lee Peterson and Chris Hansen Cameos?
:dead
Post by: agrajag on October 21, 2019, 06:51:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzOn9M2KucwQuoteAfter devolving into a fit of muttering about how cool he was in 2016, Peterson began shakin uncontrollably, then broke down crying in front of his interviewer.
As the interviewer tried consoling Peterson about how great his accomplishments were, Peterson began crying even harder, then began describing how important of a person he is because he reminded a generation of buckos to regularly rinse their phalluses with water and soap.
@ 14:45 he begins breaking down as he describes the relentless bullying he receives on twitter, saying he can't even sign into his account any longer.
Between 24:00 and 27:00 his eyes overflow with tears and he begins sobbing as he explains
lol this rules
lol even Ian Miles Cheong is roasting him
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1186265830851350528
Post by: shosta on October 21, 2019, 09:09:54 PM
Meanwhile, in Vegas:
http://mobile.twitter.com/48john/status/1185622046409154566Was
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHaWUxOWoAItyzC?format=jpg&name=medium)
Post by: benjipwns on October 21, 2019, 09:13:59 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/johnsolomonbain/status/1185783767224475648
https://twitter.com/johnsolomonbain/status/1185699993904173056
https://twitter.com/johnsolomonbain/status/1185699993904173056
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Post by: jakefromstatefarm on October 21, 2019, 09:44:21 PM
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I remember when I was 17 and my favorite movie was the prestige :fbm
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Post by: jakefromstatefarm on October 21, 2019, 09:45:06 PM
Post by: shosta on October 21, 2019, 10:01:22 PM
Post by: agrajag on October 22, 2019, 05:32:21 AM
"that's a modern painting"
Post by: Crash Dummy on October 22, 2019, 05:59:54 AM
also, have I told you guys how much I fucking hate trad caths?how come?
Post by: Oblivion on October 23, 2019, 05:02:56 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 24, 2019, 04:44:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P55t6eryY3g
Post by: Rufus on October 24, 2019, 06:58:43 PM
https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1183886807303442433"It was a wild time" was Emir Kusturica's excuse for
Post by: agrajag on October 24, 2019, 06:59:14 PM
https://twitter.com/Bowsnonk/status/1187478134582497286
Post by: shosta on October 24, 2019, 07:30:23 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHp_nDEX4AAXfla?format=jpg&name=large)
:noah
Post by: agrajag on October 24, 2019, 07:33:21 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 24, 2019, 09:21:31 PM
Post by: team filler on October 24, 2019, 09:57:43 PM
Post by: Oblivion on October 25, 2019, 05:17:41 AM
Post by: EchoRin on October 25, 2019, 05:29:41 AM
You made me look. Why is that website even a thing :lol
Post by: agrajag on October 25, 2019, 11:35:30 AM
i'm sure y'all will be shocked to find out that jp's daughter is divorcing her husband, and apparently leaving their child with him
which of the 12 rules is that
Post by: agrajag on October 25, 2019, 11:36:38 AM
:putin
Post by: benjipwns on October 25, 2019, 11:37:54 AM
which of the 12 rules is thatRule 5 Do not let your children do anything that makes you dislike them
Post by: nachobro on October 25, 2019, 03:07:59 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 25, 2019, 03:10:51 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 26, 2019, 12:34:14 AM
Post by: EchoRin on October 26, 2019, 02:26:04 AM
:stop
Post by: Tripon on October 26, 2019, 02:47:36 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 26, 2019, 04:05:58 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 26, 2019, 06:49:17 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 27, 2019, 02:04:32 AM
creeper than i expected.
Post by: benjipwns on October 27, 2019, 04:46:04 AM
YOU GUYS SEEN IT YET
Post by: EchoRin on October 27, 2019, 04:55:34 AM
Post by: team filler on October 29, 2019, 05:08:36 PM
https://youtu.be/XeWWz4y1coU
Post by: shosta on October 29, 2019, 05:19:23 PM
asking that question to someone who wants to see the end of commodity production :dead
asking a Jewish person about holocaust denial vs. freedom of speech :doge :doge :doge :doge
trying to get him to denounce the university system :gurl
0 points for effort. Your group project gets an F.
Post by: benjipwns on October 29, 2019, 11:04:54 PM
https://twitter.com/MikhailaAleksis/status/1188266388588236800
https://twitter.com/MikhailaAleksis/status/1188267125925994501
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 29, 2019, 11:37:07 PM
Post by: team filler on October 29, 2019, 11:45:43 PM
:lol
Post by: team filler on October 30, 2019, 02:55:37 AM
an absolute legend :lol
Post by: agrajag on October 30, 2019, 03:44:06 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 30, 2019, 03:49:21 PM
Post by: team filler on November 02, 2019, 04:04:30 AM
;)
Post by: benjipwns on November 05, 2019, 01:02:34 AM
https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1191495086581792768
Post by: benjipwns on November 05, 2019, 01:10:59 AM
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YouTube banned Sebastian Gorka from its platform on Monday, apparently because the former Trump White House adviser refused to stop playing songs from pop rock band Imagine Dragons on episodes of his radio show that were later uploaded to the site.
Gorka, a notoriously combative Trump ally, has regularly played Imagine Dragons songs on his radio show, “America First.” That’s put him at odds with the band’s lead singer, Dan Reynolds, who has been calling on Gorka to stop using the band’s songs on his show since August.
“Please stop playing imagine dragons on your show @SebGorka,” Reynolds tweeted on August 23.
Gorka kept playing the band’s song “Radioactive,” though, prompting Reynolds to say on Oct. 24 that Universal Music Publishing Group had attempted to block Gorka from uploading videos with the song to the site.
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Now Gorka’s love of Imagine Dragons appears to have cost him his YouTube account. Gorka’s channel was deleted from YouTube on Monday afternoon, with a YouTube spokesperson confirming to The Daily Beast that Gorka’s channel “was terminated due to multiple copyright strikes.”https://twitter.com/SebGorka/status/1191501403933556736
The YouTube spokesperson declined to say what song had prompted the copyright takedown notices. But the complaints were filed by Universal Music Publishing Group—the same company Reynolds had said was attempting to stop Gorka from uploading the song.
Gorka, who didn’t respond to requests for comment, didn’t appear to realize on Monday afternoon that his channel had been deleted. After one Twitter user complained that Gorka’s links were going to his now-deleted channel, Gorka mocked the poster, tweeting “you really should try harder” and ending the message with a laughing-crying emoji.
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 05, 2019, 09:01:11 AM
Post by: benjipwns on November 06, 2019, 01:51:20 PM
Post by: Nintex on November 06, 2019, 02:28:24 PM
Hail
Post by: agrajag on November 06, 2019, 02:32:11 PM
:gladbron
Post by: Brehvolution on November 06, 2019, 02:43:53 PM
Video of what I imagine it will look like when shapiro gets arrested.
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 06, 2019, 03:37:57 PM
Post by: benjipwns on November 06, 2019, 11:30:20 PM
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After conducting an extensive review, PayPal has made the decision to discontinue our business relationship with Stefan Molyneux.
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1192043558515154944
Post by: Momo on November 07, 2019, 06:45:39 AM
:dayum
Post by: curly on November 08, 2019, 02:54:29 AM
big if true
I thought Tim Pool was one of those power of logic, "actually I'm a liberal" guys, but all his videos are trans terrorists TRIGGERED by Donald Trump Jr, proving the FAKE MEDIA and ILHAN OMAR want to REPLACE your children with 30 year old SWEDISH muslim migrants
Post by: Brehvolution on November 08, 2019, 09:12:11 AM
Post by: agrajag on November 08, 2019, 09:38:50 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie7qnFSpE_g
Post by: Oblivion on November 08, 2019, 03:24:40 PM
dude is basically a smarter version of david rubin
Post by: agrajag on November 08, 2019, 03:31:11 PM
Post by: Nintex on November 08, 2019, 03:32:18 PM
Post by: Oblivion on November 08, 2019, 04:11:02 PM
iirc Pool still pretends to be on the left while Rubin has dropped the act completely.
pim vacillates between 'center-left' and 'classical liberal'
Post by: agrajag on November 08, 2019, 04:19:12 PM
Post by: curly on November 08, 2019, 04:38:37 PM
curly, were you really not aware of tim pool?
dude is basically a smarter version of david rubin
I knew who he was but I thought he put on more of a front about being a centrist
Post by: Oblivion on November 08, 2019, 04:47:55 PM
Post by: Mandark on November 11, 2019, 12:35:04 AM
Not wank daddery per se, but in the free speech/deplatforming/trigger warning bucket.
Post by: Momo on November 11, 2019, 12:38:06 AM
:rage :idont :batman :like :dislike :mods
Post by: Brehvolution on November 11, 2019, 10:49:00 AM
Post by: Momo on November 11, 2019, 11:41:13 PM
Post by: benjipwns on November 12, 2019, 12:01:31 AM
This is like when people watch The Dark Knight and don't realize the Joker is constantly lying.
Post by: benjipwns on November 12, 2019, 12:19:14 AM
Post by: Momo on November 12, 2019, 12:27:18 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on November 12, 2019, 02:25:37 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/dv1hzf/nyc_democratic_socialists_of_america_dsa/
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EI4JlE6WoAExF8b.jpg)
Post by: team filler on November 12, 2019, 02:42:56 AM
Post by: team filler on November 12, 2019, 02:52:12 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/Csge8Ws.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/XtXzpR0.png)
;)
Post by: Oblivion on November 12, 2019, 03:10:56 PM
:doge :brain :neogaf
Post by: team filler on November 12, 2019, 03:30:30 PM
Post by: Oblivion on November 13, 2019, 05:10:33 PM
Post by: EchoRin on November 13, 2019, 07:42:13 PM
*Shapiro in a tweet being a ding dong*
I wanted him to shut up after 20 seconds. I really wanted him to shut up when he started bringing up Star Wars. I got my wish
Post by: team filler on November 13, 2019, 08:57:02 PM
Are there really people that like...actively enjoy listening to Ben Shapiro and give him money for shit?(https://i.imgur.com/3hxxZl3.jpg)
Post by: Rufus on November 13, 2019, 09:03:08 PM
Is that a person?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_City_mosque_shooting
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 14, 2019, 12:51:03 PM
Post by: naff on November 14, 2019, 06:02:38 PM
https://preview.redd.it/66783ef9rny31.jpg?width=707&auto=webp&s=72710d08740674863ec96b4741b7e969a3c49f42
:dead
y i k e s
Post by: agrajag on November 14, 2019, 07:54:22 PM
Post by: team filler on November 15, 2019, 01:25:33 AM
Post by: Momo on November 15, 2019, 02:16:52 AM
Post by: Mandark on November 15, 2019, 03:15:15 AM
so he posted a picture of a steak to show he's having a great time and is not mad (he is mad)
someone tweeted that he used a google image of a steak (not true? whatever)
he's been going on and on about how the steak thing shows he's being targeted
Post by: Momo on November 15, 2019, 03:21:00 AM
Post by: Brehvolution on November 15, 2019, 09:23:04 AM
imagine caring about that :lol
Conservative grifters have a very narrow mindset. If they can't start a sentence with "the left", they are way out of their wheelhouse and have a hard time functioning as a normal person.
Post by: agrajag on November 15, 2019, 10:53:08 AM
Post by: agrajag on November 15, 2019, 12:21:20 PM
Post by: agrajag on November 16, 2019, 12:57:39 PM
Post by: EchoRin on November 16, 2019, 02:05:52 PM
Post by: VomKriege on November 16, 2019, 06:56:09 PM
Post by: Nintex on November 16, 2019, 07:04:23 PM
And then... WESTERN CIVILIZATION.Hell yeah
(https://media.giphy.com/media/ZZlZUcc08c6LMZRXmv/giphy.gif)
Post by: shosta on November 18, 2019, 12:42:42 AM
o-okay
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 18, 2019, 09:00:27 AM
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/694174637882671104
o-okay
:juche
Post by: agrajag on November 18, 2019, 09:48:53 AM
Post by: agrajag on November 18, 2019, 07:52:33 PM
:brain
Post by: Yeti on November 18, 2019, 08:08:12 PM
Post by: Brehvolution on November 19, 2019, 09:49:11 AM
Post by: Nintex on November 22, 2019, 05:15:58 PM
:mynicca
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on November 23, 2019, 04:27:25 PM
e: its definitely a fake, this ones just for funsies
Post by: team filler on November 23, 2019, 09:55:59 PM
:dead
Post by: OnlyRegret on November 24, 2019, 02:39:57 AM
https://twitter.com/SheilaGunnReid/status/1198008535910510592
:dead
https://twitter.com/MikeSileika/status/1198028442698043392
Post by: Momo on November 24, 2019, 06:36:17 AM
Post by: agrajag on November 24, 2019, 08:29:08 PM
https://youtu.be/xVt7YfitHk4
Post by: team filler on November 25, 2019, 01:01:35 AM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/RepublicansCity/status/1198841175622373376
:doge
:doge
[close]
Post by: Momo on November 25, 2019, 01:20:08 AM
Post by: EchoRin on November 25, 2019, 01:23:04 AM
https://twitter.com/shoe0nhead/status/1198524742313091073
I like his emphasis on the word feggits
Post by: Momo on November 25, 2019, 01:35:55 AM
Post by: benjipwns on November 25, 2019, 01:57:57 AM
Ultimately waste of time multi-tasking :lawd
Post by: benjipwns on November 25, 2019, 02:00:12 AM
Post by: Kara on November 25, 2019, 02:01:37 AM
Post by: Momo on November 25, 2019, 02:20:35 AM
Post by: Mandark on November 25, 2019, 02:41:22 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 25, 2019, 03:47:58 PM
Post by: benjipwns on November 25, 2019, 05:41:23 PM
Post by: Mandark on November 25, 2019, 06:52:53 PM
Post by: Rufus on November 26, 2019, 01:41:27 PM
Post by: Nintex on November 26, 2019, 02:24:01 PM
8)
Post by: BIONIC on November 26, 2019, 03:01:03 PM
The JRE
The DMT was probably worth it :rogan
Post by: VomKriege on November 26, 2019, 03:03:04 PM
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/312bd012b444bb184f96591ba862425f/tumblr_p2cr4lkPnv1ugckyro1_500.jpg)
Jordan Peterson really got it rough.
Post by: Rufus on November 26, 2019, 03:06:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qC9DxwWYBM
Post by: OnlyRegret on November 26, 2019, 05:15:30 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on November 26, 2019, 05:18:40 PM
Post by: EchoRin on November 26, 2019, 05:29:22 PM
(https://preview.redd.it/vsggowq0h3141.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=d717dc5b8bd7a271b8373c80892e1d0c46c8291d)
Can you explain this to me. Is this referring to something specific?
Like I need a breakdown of every 6 word chunk here
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 26, 2019, 07:41:24 PM
(https://preview.redd.it/vsggowq0h3141.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=d717dc5b8bd7a271b8373c80892e1d0c46c8291d)
Can you explain this to me. Is this referring to something specific?
Like I need a breakdown of every 6 word chunk here
We need a Wiki for all the minor wank members of the Wank Daddy Expanded Universe (WDEU).
Post by: Momo on November 26, 2019, 11:52:17 PM
OK, one more:whatever this guy is trying isnt working for me, I actually watch her videos so I know it's bullshit :dayum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qC9DxwWYBM
Post by: Rufus on November 27, 2019, 12:16:41 AM
whatever this guy is trying isnt working for me, I actually watch her videos so I know it's bullshit :dayumThat's why is posted that one. I don't know what to think of him. He makes some good points in the serious videos, but he's strangely intense about everything. It's like his channel is an extension of therapy for him.
Post by: Kara on November 27, 2019, 02:34:30 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on November 27, 2019, 02:47:05 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on November 27, 2019, 02:47:39 AM
(https://preview.redd.it/vsggowq0h3141.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=d717dc5b8bd7a271b8373c80892e1d0c46c8291d)
Can you explain this to me. Is this referring to something specific?
Like I need a breakdown of every 6 word chunk here
Worry not, King, it is far beneath you.
Post by: OnlyRegret on November 28, 2019, 01:05:57 AM
Post by: Nintex on November 28, 2019, 06:23:30 PM
Post by: agrajag on November 28, 2019, 08:05:12 PM
https://youtu.be/r9m5poJLvO0
Post by: bluemax on December 01, 2019, 05:35:45 PM
Post by: Nintex on December 01, 2019, 05:45:08 PM
https://twitter.com/WIRED/status/1201002747585343493https://twitter.com/patrickklepek/status/1201246965499084806 (https://twitter.com/patrickklepek/status/1201246965499084806)
:exxy :rethread :gamergate
Post by: agrajag on December 01, 2019, 06:00:31 PM
Post by: Mandark on December 01, 2019, 06:38:37 PM
I really believe the dilbert guy has his head so far up his ass that he doesn't notice the contradiction.
Post by: Momo on December 02, 2019, 12:34:22 AM
The very last person on earth that should complain about bad faith arguments and waste of time articles.https://twitter.com/WIRED/status/1201002747585343493https://twitter.com/patrickklepek/status/1201246965499084806 (https://twitter.com/patrickklepek/status/1201246965499084806)
:exxy :rethread :gamergate
Post by: Momo on December 02, 2019, 05:16:40 AM
:aah :aah :aah
Post by: Momo on December 02, 2019, 05:20:01 AM
:bowsette :bowsette :bowsette :bowsette :bowsette
Post by: Mandark on December 02, 2019, 07:08:33 PM
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/g7avgncrpswvs5fyfv7t.png)
Bjorn Lomborg! Congrats benji, your boy made it.
Post by: Mandark on December 02, 2019, 07:42:08 PM
At least it's a way for Assy (RIP) to enjoy Daddy P's Jungian stylings without having to read.
Post by: EchoRin on December 02, 2019, 07:47:55 PM
Post by: agrajag on December 02, 2019, 07:49:52 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 02, 2019, 09:03:07 PM
Post by: curly on December 02, 2019, 09:32:24 PM
https://twitter.com/SophNar0747/status/1201435418480332805 (https://twitter.com/SophNar0747/status/1201435418480332805)
:aah :aah :aah
How does them being a turd affect their toxicity? I'd expect better from the primary writer for @notaxation
Post by: Mandark on December 02, 2019, 09:36:47 PM
Post by: Tripon on December 02, 2019, 09:46:32 PM
Jordan Peterson's alternative to Patreon is apparently up in a closed beta.lmao at David Pakman up on it. Dude's loves to make some money.
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/g7avgncrpswvs5fyfv7t.png)
Bjorn Lomborg! Congrats benji, your boy made it.
Post by: Momo on December 02, 2019, 10:48:42 PM
damn pakman is an opportunistsurprised he's on there, but then again I'm also not. He's not very cancel culturey and generally will mix with people he disagrees with.
Post by: team filler on December 02, 2019, 11:30:54 PM
Post by: agrajag on December 02, 2019, 11:31:57 PM
Post by: Momo on December 02, 2019, 11:35:46 PM
his foreign policy takes a garbage, he belongs there :pacspitlmao, yeah he has some dumbass takes, but so does everyone. I still like him overall
Post by: team filler on December 02, 2019, 11:37:50 PM
BETAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Post by: bluemax on December 02, 2019, 11:50:11 PM
I like how bluemax's sig sums up that Wired tweet. "NO"
There is some beautiful poetry to it all.
Post by: Momo on December 03, 2019, 06:37:42 AM
:rejoice
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 03, 2019, 08:57:09 AM
Post by: Momo on December 03, 2019, 09:22:59 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 03, 2019, 09:32:06 AM
Post by: Momo on December 03, 2019, 10:29:56 AM
Post by: Oblivion on December 03, 2019, 04:17:40 PM
Jordan Peterson's alternative to Patreon is apparently up in a closed beta.
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/g7avgncrpswvs5fyfv7t.png)
Bjorn Lomborg! Congrats benji, your boy made it.
this dude has a good thread on all the ways thinkspot is a total shitfest:
https://twitter.com/skeptical7th/status/1199496861461221376
https://twitter.com/skeptical7th/status/1199496902598938625
Post by: EchoRin on December 04, 2019, 01:51:34 AM
https://youtu.be/UBc7qBS1Ujo
Post by: Momo on December 04, 2019, 02:07:14 AM
Post by: team filler on December 04, 2019, 02:12:19 AM
Post by: benjipwns on December 04, 2019, 09:04:11 PM
https://locals.com/
Quote
Locals allows me to connect directly with my supporters without big tech algorithms getting in the way. The day of giant platforms is over. Small is the new big, and that starts by creating your own community and finding meaningful connections with Locals.
Dave Rubin
Quote
Own Your Audience
Passionate fans want to support you. Strengthen your relationship with them by removing the middleman and by creating a community that brings your brand and your business to the next level
Set Your Own Rules
YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter have inconsistent and unfair moderation. You set the rules in your Local.
Build your network
Grow your community by connecting with other creators you want to be associated with. There’s power in numbers.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Quote
Patrick Chapman
6 hours ago (edited)
Talk about waffling... Can you at least describe the content you are willing to allow on your platform. What will be the remit for admittance. How much and how it works. Also how will you deal with payment processors that insist on you banning a creator. I assume you're not a bank.
The endless waffle burgers of age old Sargon and Andy Ngo stories are not what interests people. Get to the point, even if you have to have one of your techs do it instead. I literally know no more than I did before about this platform.
[close]
Post by: team filler on December 04, 2019, 09:23:09 PM
Post by: benjipwns on December 04, 2019, 09:27:53 PM
https://twitter.com/Vanoffanelia/status/1202413143219220480
finally a killer app for VR
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 05, 2019, 05:38:20 AM
Post by: agrajag on December 05, 2019, 11:07:39 AM
:rejoice :science :rogan :brain
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 05, 2019, 11:10:10 AM
Post by: agrajag on December 05, 2019, 11:12:08 AM
Post by: Tripon on December 05, 2019, 04:48:13 PM
Quote
Dave Rubin, the outspoken podcaster and YouTuber has admitted in a dialogue with Dr John Lennox that he has changed his mind about God and has begun to rediscover his spiritual roots. Rubin, who was raised in a culturally Jewish background, but has described himself as an atheist, now has over 1 million subscribers on YouTube. He said “I have no problem with Jesus – I like the guy. I like the message of Jesus - I love these ideas. I think that if my life becomes a continuing conversation about these things, I can incorporate the best parts of that to be a better person.”
Filmed in front of 1,000 people at Calvary Chapel, Costa Mesa in California the debate is the latest episode to be released as part of The Big Conversation debate series and also featured Oxford Professor of Mathematics, Dr John Lennox. Rubin’s comments may come as a surprise to his many social media followers who have heard him state that he was an atheist.
https://www.premier.org.uk/News/UK/Famed-atheist-YouTube-host-admits-he-likes-Jesus-and-is-open-to-the-Christian-faith
Please let Dave Rubin find Messianic Judaism. :rejoice
(https://www.abc.net.au/news/image/10493906-3x2-700x467.jpg)
(https://www.grandforksherald.com/incoming/article1088081.ece/alternates/BASE_LANDSCAPE/2082413%2B101715.N.FF_.TWINBROTHERS.jpg)
Post by: Rufus on December 06, 2019, 02:26:53 AM
Let's go scrubs! Long ass vidPretty good, if at times too meticulous (d'uh, it's more than two hours long). He didn't go overboard until he examined the studies cited in the book. That provides valuable insight into the rotten foundations, sure, but he didn't need to go through that many in such detail. Especially after he shows that Murray is still, decades on, waiting on actual evidence for their thesis. Human intelligence will crater any year now. Just you wait!
https://youtu.be/UBc7qBS1Ujo
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Oh, and he shows small pictures of quotes from the book, rather than copy pasting from a digital edition. ...For authenticity, I presume? Stretch them edge to edge at least, come on man. :lol
[close]
Gonna watch the rest eventually. It's not often I find myself bookmarking a video partway through, god damn. :doge
Post by: Oblivion on December 06, 2019, 06:19:45 AM
YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter have inconsistent and unfair moderation.
You set the rules in your Local.
:thinking
Post by: Oblivion on December 06, 2019, 06:20:54 AM
Post by: Mandark on December 06, 2019, 02:28:34 PM
Human intelligence will crater any year now. Just you wait!
Ireland used to be a favorite talking point for genetic determinism: between several generations of heavy emigration and priests not being allowed to reproduce, all the best genes were supposedly being removed from the pool, and that's why the country was poor. Then this (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_Tiger) happened. They don't bring up Ireland so much these days.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Pretty good argument that Ireland's boom came from corporate tax arbitrage, but once you accept that you've implicitly admitted that a nation's GDP per capita isn't a function of its population's mean skull volume.
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Post by: Tripon on December 07, 2019, 04:53:35 PM
Post by: curly on December 07, 2019, 05:06:56 PM
Human intelligence will crater any year now. Just you wait!
Ireland used to be a favorite talking point for genetic determinism: between several generations of heavy emigration and priests not being allowed to reproduce, all the best genes were supposedly being removed from the pool, and that's why the country was poor. Then this (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_Tiger) happened. They don't bring up Ireland so much these days.spoiler (click to show/hide)Pretty good argument that Ireland's boom came from corporate tax arbitrage, but once you accept that you've implicitly admitted that a nation's GDP per capita isn't a function of its population's mean skull volume.[close]
https://mobile.twitter.com/jnmulholland/status/1203414758239674368
Post by: Nintex on December 07, 2019, 05:57:55 PM
https://twitter.com/WattersWorld/status/120340380611069952102:43 - Parking lot - Pentagon
Mike "WATCHMASTER" Pompeo: "Monday.... it is all happening. Everything I've told you about it is all coming out. The FISA, Hunter's corruption, Soros, everything"
Alex: "He's going to do it?"
Mike "COMMANDER" Pence: "Yes, the pardon for Flynn, Manafort and Stone has been written *smiles*. Hillary Clinton will be arrested. Obama might flee but we know his escape routes"
Alex: "WOW, I can't believe this is happening"
Mike "TRAILBLAZER " Flynn: "We're ready to expose all these frauds. Our cyber soldiers are prepared to strike at the heart of the system. Thank you Alex"
Alex: "But what about JFK Jr?"
WATCHMASTER: "He was but a simple d i v e r s i o n"
COMMANDER: "And again you've taken the bait my friend. Just look at your keyboard Alex, or should I say #KEYSTONE... where is the Q?"
Alex: "At the top left on a regular size general brand QWERTY keyboard why...."
TRAILBLAZER: "Where is the M"
Alex: "3 rows down... 3 x M.... all the way at the far right.... MY GOD"
WATCHMASTER: "That's right Alex, Monday at noon. Trump will be impeached. "Q" or rather Pence will be President and the far-right will have taken over the United States of America"
COMMANDER: "One precision terror attack will strike fear in the heart of the nation before the 2020 election and the liberals have themselves to thank for it hahahahaha"
TRAILBLAZER: "Sorry Alex, your country thanks you for your service" *gunshot*
Post by: agrajag on December 07, 2019, 06:17:37 PM
Post by: Tripon on December 07, 2019, 08:07:32 PM
Post by: benjipwns on December 07, 2019, 10:47:20 PM
https://twitter.com/JournalistEW/status/1202949152704999424
https://twitter.com/JournalistEW/status/1202956229749989379
Post by: benjipwns on December 07, 2019, 10:53:36 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 08, 2019, 11:16:10 AM
Post by: Transhuman on December 08, 2019, 11:48:41 AM
Post by: Oblivion on December 08, 2019, 11:47:35 PM
https://twitter.com/skeptical7th/status/1203439779184095232
Post by: Oblivion on December 09, 2019, 04:40:33 PM
not sure why his content was there to begin with, but good on pakman
Post by: benjipwns on December 09, 2019, 05:34:06 PM
https://twitter.com/dpakman/status/1203068769481973760
Post by: Rufus on December 09, 2019, 07:45:38 PM
Post by: team filler on December 09, 2019, 08:06:30 PM
Post by: agrajag on December 09, 2019, 09:42:37 PM
press F for Taylor Swift's expired egg sack
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 09, 2019, 09:53:19 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 09, 2019, 11:07:53 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Like your mom
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Post by: Momo on December 09, 2019, 11:48:32 PM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1204194224545173504sex predator confirmed
press F for Taylor Swift's expired egg sack
Post by: Tripon on December 09, 2019, 11:56:31 PM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1204194224545173504sex predator confirmed
press F for Taylor Swift's expired egg sack
https://twitter.com/stefanmolyneux/status/1180653223562096640?lang=en
Post by: benjipwns on December 09, 2019, 11:58:12 PM
sex predator confirmedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp65LWeGkQM
Post by: benjipwns on December 09, 2019, 11:58:49 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/zLz7xpt.jpg)
Post by: OnlyRegret on December 10, 2019, 01:38:49 AM
lemme guess molymeme, it drops off hard after 18 ::)
Post by: OnlyRegret on December 10, 2019, 01:39:32 AM
Post by: curly on December 10, 2019, 01:45:22 AM
Post by: Mandark on December 10, 2019, 01:47:50 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on December 10, 2019, 01:52:05 AM
"she'll be a fun mom" sent a chill down my spine
Hard to say, the rest of the tweets he's pumping out do a fine job of being just as creepy.
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1204282212167892993
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1204282787123126272
Post by: Momo on December 10, 2019, 01:56:14 AM
https://twitter.com/shoe0nhead/status/1204260826443591680
:dead
Post by: bluemax on December 10, 2019, 02:05:46 AM
lol this is his twitter header
(https://i.imgur.com/zLz7xpt.jpg)
This reminded me that Jon Blow, gave this talk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW-SOdj4Kkk
Post by: HardcoreRetro on December 10, 2019, 06:04:26 AM
press F for Taylor Swift's expired egg sack
Her very own Hitlerjugend. :-*
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 10, 2019, 09:09:21 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on December 10, 2019, 02:15:22 PM
https://twitter.com/liz_franczak/status/1204202358596521984
Post by: Momo on December 10, 2019, 02:17:41 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on December 10, 2019, 02:21:14 PM
https://twitter.com/AbiWilks/status/1204207684863574016
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 10, 2019, 02:24:26 PM
Post by: benjipwns on December 10, 2019, 06:49:12 PM
Sexually aroused by Taylor Swift having a good sleep schedule and becoming a tradmomhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oFYRXZpMqw
Post by: benjipwns on December 10, 2019, 07:11:02 PM
Post by: benjipwns on December 10, 2019, 09:01:37 PM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1204480980796559360
Post by: OnlyRegret on December 10, 2019, 09:12:09 PM
https://twitter.com/chrissyteigen/status/1204262749456359424
https://twitter.com/VlBECHECKER/status/1204485099984687106
Post by: benjipwns on December 10, 2019, 09:23:19 PM
Post by: EchoRin on December 10, 2019, 09:31:14 PM
Well mate i would guess if Chrissy freakin Teigen has posted on your tweet it has a pretty good chance of reaching Taylor Swift one way or another.
Post by: OnlyRegret on December 10, 2019, 09:35:34 PM
Which is funny cause in the vid you posted about spanking he talks about 6 degrees of separation. In response to some dude that left his baby daughter and now wants to reconnect with her Stephen goes "well you know six degrees of separation... Maybe she will hear this... What message would you like to tell her"
Well mate i would guess if Chrissy freakin Teigen has posted on your tweet it has a pretty good chance of reaching Taylor Swift one way or another.
giving Swift bad vibes :fbm
Post by: benjipwns on December 10, 2019, 09:43:10 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on December 10, 2019, 09:47:54 PM
Post by: benjipwns on December 10, 2019, 09:52:27 PM
I assume this is why so many are either Objectivists or Holocaust deniers. I mean, in outsized proportion compared to the U.S. movement.
edit: Oh yeah, his morality/argument stuff, which is actually what he's published, is a whole other thing. Deirdre McCloskey called him a fucking idiot because he wouldn't stop trying to explain it to everyone at some panel and then she just sat there pissed off.
His book/thesis/etc. is somewhere in this thread.
Post by: benjipwns on December 10, 2019, 10:15:56 PM
on the upside the institute both pissed him off with a negative review of his book and they still have it for free on their wiki:
https://mises.org/library/molyneux-problem
https://mises.org/library/mr-molyneux-responds
https://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Book:Universally_Preferable_Behaviour
that foreword :dead
QuoteIt would be cruel to arouse false expectations, so I had better say at once that Molyneux does not succeed in his noble goal. He fails, and fails miserably. His arguments are often preposterously bad.
:whoo
the ending must have really ground his gears:QuoteBecause of his facile intelligence, he thinks that he has a talent for philosophical argument and need not undertake the hard labor of learning how such arguments are constructed. Unfortunately for him and his book, he is mistaken.
apropos of the review, this made the rounds earlier: https://www.bitchute.com/video/5PF7YF66APmE/
He posted it to his channel, got shit on, took it down, someone put it back up
Also this is important:
https://twitter.com/JohnnyHeatWave/status/1083109759631409152
Post by: benjipwns on December 10, 2019, 10:43:37 PM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on December 11, 2019, 02:30:28 AM
yeah, but in the same way theres a lineage between paul tillich and theodor adornoTIL that there is a lineage from Jürgen Habermas to Stefan Molyneux. :stahp
Hahahahahaha
Post by: Momo on December 11, 2019, 09:32:12 AM
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 11, 2019, 01:22:59 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on December 11, 2019, 03:42:45 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 11, 2019, 03:49:11 PM
Post by: agrajag on December 11, 2019, 03:59:24 PM
https://twitter.com/neeratanden/status/1203663963197718530
Neera Tanden should be launched into the sun.
Post by: benjipwns on December 11, 2019, 04:34:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTOQGvXbZY8
Quote
Police officers responded to a call on Friday when Adam Carolla and Dennis Prager’s free speech film, "No Safe Spaces," was allegedly interrupted by two masked men who some customers felt were looking to intimidate moviegoers.
The filmmakers are chalking up the incident to evidence as to why the movie is important in the first place.
The La Habra, California police department sent officers to the local Regal Theater after receiving a call that two male subjects who entered the movie theater for the 1:10 p.m. showing had covered their faces with bandanas.
“After all of the previews and ads were over and the movie was just starting, two thugs sporting hoodies, masks, sunglasses and carrying huge duffel bags ran, not walked, up the aisle and sat at the back of the theater right behind us. They looked like bank robbers, home invasion criminals… they were trying to act scary,” a moviegoer named Vanessa, who asked for her last name not be used, told Fox News.
“As you can imagine, I was nervous that they were planning something even more nefarious than just visual intimidation,” Vanessa said.
Vanessa and other moviegoers complained to the theater and called the police. She said she was issued a refund and left.
“When the manager went in to check on them they had removed all intimidating items. They knew what they were doing,” Vanessa said. “Potential criminals got to stay while we had to leave because we were afraid they might do something violent. My son did not want to leave because he didn't want them to succeed in their plan of intimidation and free speech suppression. But I told him a movie was not worth our lives in case they had weapons or something.”
The La Habra police department confirmed to Fox News that they arrived on the scene after receiving a call about two men interrupting the film, but said no incident report was made. It’s unclear if the alleged troublemakers were trying to purposely disrupt the pro-free speech film for political reasons.
“They came full sprint to the top of the theater with bandanas on their face,” another attendee, Scott Stroud, confirmed to Fox News.
Stroud said that he pressured management to call the police, and they eventually obliged after initially downplaying the situation and assuring that the backpacks of the men were searched. Stroud said he explained the subject matter of the movie to theater workers in an effort to be taken seriously.
Stroud said police told him theater management didn’t think it was necessary to investigate further, but he disagrees.
“Common sense says you would want to question them,” Stroud said.
The La Habra police department declined to say why a report wasn’t filed.
"This story is quite angering, and an example of what is happening increasingly in America. I urge Americans to be courageous. It took courage for us to make this movie and now, apparently, it's going to take courage for Americans to watch it,” the film's co-star Dennis Prager told Fox News. “America is the safe space in which we are supposed to be free to hear different ideas, including the ideas in this film, without fear of reprisal, and certainly without fear of physical harm.“
The documentary, which Prager has called a "wake-up call" to the American people, focuses on free speech being restricted to satisfy political agendas.
“If I know anything about my fellow Americans, it is that we are not easily frightened by thugs. I urge America to reject the fear that these incidents are designed to engender; be courageous, and go see our movie in a theater. This incident is exactly why this movie is so important," Prager said.
Quote
As with others who disrupt events, they should be sued for damages, both as a civil rights violation and as a simple tort inflicting financial losses. Being sued is unpleasant, tedious, expensive, and gives you a higher profile than masked thugs generally want. And it’s an easy winner.
On the other hand, I suppose we should just thank them for their Trump2020 get-out-the-vote work.
Quote
Not that I want to see anything terrible happen, but it’d be just a shame – a shame – if one of those wannabe thugs gave someone just enough reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm to get his face legitimately blown into the next county.
No, I said a shame. We just do not want this to happen.
Quote
I’m 6’2″, 250-260 lbs. My voice has raised in pitch over the decades. I used to have a nice deep bass voice, but am now more of a middle to high baritone.
That said, I probably would have done the exact same thing. Gotten up, sat right next to them, and said loudly “Hey guys! This ought to be an interesting movie, doncha think? However, It’ll be hard for me to pay attention to the movie with you two wonderful fellas sitting next to me acting AWFULLY suspicious. I’m sure the other men in this theater agree, right folks?”
Quote
Bill I am a similar build. Its awesome being able to intimidate little antifa giant dads without raising a fist. Which is what I 100% bet they were. Also clearly the massive irony of them doing this is lost on them since they probably dont have the IQ to understand it.:usacry but also :american
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 11, 2019, 04:39:37 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on December 11, 2019, 06:13:22 PM
https://twitter.com/FDRLST/status/1204415477352673280
https://twitter.com/Yair_Rosenberg/status/1202795736146030592
https://twitter.com/darrengrimes_/status/1203611755261431808
https://twitter.com/mishtal/status/1204880463715811330
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzUmBvxXQAEdPXB.png)
Post by: EchoRin on December 11, 2019, 06:53:26 PM
Like I enjoy a cigar too once every blue moon, but when I see someone on video smoking one it's done in such a shit eating #class kind of way that makes you come off like an evil villain.
Post by: Oblivion on December 12, 2019, 12:27:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTOQGvXbZY8QuotePolice officers responded to a call on Friday when Adam Carolla and Dennis Prager’s free speech film, "No Safe Spaces," was allegedly interrupted by two masked men who some customers felt were looking to intimidate moviegoers.
The filmmakers are chalking up the incident to evidence as to why the movie is important in the first place.
The La Habra, California police department sent officers to the local Regal Theater after receiving a call that two male subjects who entered the movie theater for the 1:10 p.m. showing had covered their faces with bandanas.
“After all of the previews and ads were over and the movie was just starting, two thugs sporting hoodies, masks, sunglasses and carrying huge duffel bags ran, not walked, up the aisle and sat at the back of the theater right behind us. They looked like bank robbers, home invasion criminals… they were trying to act scary,” a moviegoer named Vanessa, who asked for her last name not be used, told Fox News.
“As you can imagine, I was nervous that they were planning something even more nefarious than just visual intimidation,” Vanessa said.
Vanessa and other moviegoers complained to the theater and called the police. She said she was issued a refund and left.
“When the manager went in to check on them they had removed all intimidating items. They knew what they were doing,” Vanessa said. “Potential criminals got to stay while we had to leave because we were afraid they might do something violent. My son did not want to leave because he didn't want them to succeed in their plan of intimidation and free speech suppression. But I told him a movie was not worth our lives in case they had weapons or something.”
The La Habra police department confirmed to Fox News that they arrived on the scene after receiving a call about two men interrupting the film, but said no incident report was made. It’s unclear if the alleged troublemakers were trying to purposely disrupt the pro-free speech film for political reasons.
“They came full sprint to the top of the theater with bandanas on their face,” another attendee, Scott Stroud, confirmed to Fox News.
Stroud said that he pressured management to call the police, and they eventually obliged after initially downplaying the situation and assuring that the backpacks of the men were searched. Stroud said he explained the subject matter of the movie to theater workers in an effort to be taken seriously.
Stroud said police told him theater management didn’t think it was necessary to investigate further, but he disagrees.
“Common sense says you would want to question them,” Stroud said.
The La Habra police department declined to say why a report wasn’t filed.
"This story is quite angering, and an example of what is happening increasingly in America. I urge Americans to be courageous. It took courage for us to make this movie and now, apparently, it's going to take courage for Americans to watch it,” the film's co-star Dennis Prager told Fox News. “America is the safe space in which we are supposed to be free to hear different ideas, including the ideas in this film, without fear of reprisal, and certainly without fear of physical harm.“
The documentary, which Prager has called a "wake-up call" to the American people, focuses on free speech being restricted to satisfy political agendas.
“If I know anything about my fellow Americans, it is that we are not easily frightened by thugs. I urge America to reject the fear that these incidents are designed to engender; be courageous, and go see our movie in a theater. This incident is exactly why this movie is so important," Prager said.QuoteAs with others who disrupt events, they should be sued for damages, both as a civil rights violation and as a simple tort inflicting financial losses. Being sued is unpleasant, tedious, expensive, and gives you a higher profile than masked thugs generally want. And it’s an easy winner.
On the other hand, I suppose we should just thank them for their Trump2020 get-out-the-vote work.QuoteNot that I want to see anything terrible happen, but it’d be just a shame – a shame – if one of those wannabe thugs gave someone just enough reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm to get his face legitimately blown into the next county.
No, I said a shame. We just do not want this to happen.QuoteI’m 6’2″, 250-260 lbs. My voice has raised in pitch over the decades. I used to have a nice deep bass voice, but am now more of a middle to high baritone.
That said, I probably would have done the exact same thing. Gotten up, sat right next to them, and said loudly “Hey guys! This ought to be an interesting movie, doncha think? However, It’ll be hard for me to pay attention to the movie with you two wonderful fellas sitting next to me acting AWFULLY suspicious. I’m sure the other men in this theater agree, right folks?”QuoteBill I am a similar build. Its awesome being able to intimidate little antifa giant dads without raising a fist. Which is what I 100% bet they were. Also clearly the massive irony of them doing this is lost on them since they probably dont have the IQ to understand it.:usacry but also :american
literally complaining about the lack of a safe space :neogaf
Post by: Momo on December 12, 2019, 02:22:44 AM
Post by: Tripon on December 13, 2019, 10:00:25 PM
Post by: team filler on December 14, 2019, 05:04:40 PM
;)
Post by: OnlyRegret on December 14, 2019, 05:08:33 PM
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1205948183857319937
;)
https://twitter.com/chrisbnc/status/1205954892990484490
Post by: Tripon on December 14, 2019, 06:42:40 PM
Oh so he's a pedophile
At least his followers are.
https://twitter.com/skinnypants3000/status/1203401095562829828
Post by: Nintex on December 14, 2019, 06:45:02 PM
Post by: Tripon on December 14, 2019, 06:47:09 PM
TL:DR:
Pakman: Thinkspot asked me if I liked money. I like Money. Then I realized this is going to cost me money instead. Oops.
Post by: team filler on December 14, 2019, 06:49:04 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on December 14, 2019, 08:53:27 PM
https://www.newstatesman.com/world/2018/08/project-cybersyn-afterlife-chile-s-socialist-internet
Post by: team filler on December 14, 2019, 11:51:09 PM
Post by: benjipwns on December 15, 2019, 02:02:18 AM
HE WAS CANADIAN FIRSTWhat went wrong in that guy's life
Based on what Benji has explained above, it appears that he was a libertarian for a couple decades.
Post by: Mandark on December 15, 2019, 03:14:41 AM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/DGaff/status/1205094111608496131
[close]
edit: botched the second tweet
Post by: Kara on December 15, 2019, 06:59:51 PM
Post by: Tripon on December 15, 2019, 09:45:51 PM
What happens when one of the wank dads actually tries a serious run for a political office?
Post by: agrajag on December 15, 2019, 10:23:11 PM
Post by: naff on December 16, 2019, 03:18:46 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on December 16, 2019, 04:31:18 PM
(https://i.redd.it/cgsf7pb30f441.jpg)
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 16, 2019, 04:54:02 PM
Post by: Kara on December 16, 2019, 05:07:49 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on December 16, 2019, 05:12:07 PM
(If Russia removes a Monarch it’s bad right?)
Sticking it to capitalists by citing neo-nazi conspiracies too :jeb
Post by: Nintex on December 16, 2019, 06:16:08 PM
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1206662914473525248 (https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1206662914473525248)
:kermit
Post by: EchoRin on December 16, 2019, 06:21:43 PM
Post by: Nintex on December 16, 2019, 06:23:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7JJbEMJONE
I think Joe has been talking to Alex again lmao
Post by: Kara on December 16, 2019, 06:28:35 PM
I kinda agree with Shorty Shrimp. When things really turn to the dark side in Episode 3, I quite enjoy the movie. All about that "It's over Anakin. I have the high ground"
The opening and ending lightsaber duels in that movie. :whew
Post by: agrajag on December 16, 2019, 06:38:40 PM
Post by: Momo on December 16, 2019, 11:32:38 PM
I kinda agree with Shorty Shrimp. When things really turn to the dark side in Episode 3, I quite enjoy the movie. All about that "It's over Anakin. I have the high ground"best memes, best bad dialogue, A+ would mine the memes again
Post by: benjipwns on December 17, 2019, 01:12:00 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/fu2uSlm.jpg)
They can invite Stefan too.
Post by: benjipwns on December 18, 2019, 02:32:45 AM
Post by: Rufus on December 18, 2019, 11:52:18 AM
Post by: agrajag on December 19, 2019, 02:11:31 PM
buh?
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 19, 2019, 02:27:46 PM
Post by: team filler on December 19, 2019, 02:27:54 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on December 19, 2019, 02:36:19 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 19, 2019, 02:42:02 PM
Post by: EchoRin on December 19, 2019, 06:52:06 PM
Do people get worked up and use the food delivery story as their cover to yell "fucking stupid biiiiiiiiiitch"?
Post by: agrajag on December 19, 2019, 06:57:38 PM
Why Lizzo? Is it supposed to out racists? Fat shamers? Girl power haterz?
Do people get worked up and use the food delivery story as their cover to yell "fucking stupid biiiiiiiiiitch"?
fat shamers
Post by: Tripon on December 19, 2019, 08:13:28 PM
she do IR? :drool
There was some fake news in the right wing side of the media that she did nudes. It was just a naughty Santa photo or something with her ex husband.
Post by: benjipwns on December 19, 2019, 09:02:12 PM
(https://ctpatriot1970.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/kb-dirty-8a.jpeg)
When the rest of the media wouldn't have her on, Red Eye was there! :american
Post by: team filler on December 19, 2019, 09:31:41 PM
Post by: agrajag on December 19, 2019, 10:15:36 PM
Post by: team filler on December 20, 2019, 07:34:55 PM
(https://i.redd.it/l2eyf9bl9d541.png)https://twitter.com/___Colb___/status/1203905044254466050
Post by: team filler on December 20, 2019, 08:53:43 PM
https://twitter.com/AnotherZoomer/status/1208180052883595267
https://twitter.com/_realjgoodwin/status/1208174785555030021
:lol
https://twitter.com/ClassicalTheis/status/1208168446091038720
https://twitter.com/TheBavarianChad/status/1208165905479294976
https://twitter.com/hymenprotector/status/1208154771346968576
:society
Post by: team filler on December 20, 2019, 10:13:06 PM
Post by: Nintex on December 21, 2019, 08:46:54 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLkXik8tAhE
:rogan
Post by: OnlyRegret on December 22, 2019, 08:26:53 PM
https://twitter.com/Ad_Inifinitum/status/1208820569052995584
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 23, 2019, 05:46:01 AM
Post by: Tripon on December 28, 2019, 02:41:44 PM
We're back to Race science. :lol
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on December 28, 2019, 03:08:51 PM
Post by: team filler on December 28, 2019, 04:56:05 PM
Post by: Nintex on December 29, 2019, 10:29:30 AM
https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1211222244078342144 (https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1211222244078342144)
The Wankest dad of them all :pimp
Post by: Mandark on December 29, 2019, 10:46:05 AM
It would be funny if he's angling for an anti-PC, fired4truth martyr grift but the NYT keeps employing him. But he's probably just bad.
Post by: shosta on December 29, 2019, 11:43:55 AM
Quote
One can apply a prodigious intellect in the service of prosaic things — formulating a war plan, for instance, or constructing a ship. One can also apply brilliance in the service of a mistake or a crime, like managing a planned economy or robbing a bank.
:lol
Post by: shosta on December 29, 2019, 11:50:42 AM
It would be funny if he's angling for an anti-PC, fired4truth martyr grift but the NYT keeps employing him. But he's probably just bad.
Quote
At its best, the American university can still be a place of relentless intellectual challenge rather than ideological conformity and social groupthink. At its best, the United States can still be the country that respects, and sometimes rewards, all manner of heresies that outrage polite society and contradict established belief. At its best, the West can honor the principle of racial, religious and ethnic pluralism not as a grudging accommodation to strangers but as an affirmation of its own diverse identity.This is clearly an audition
Post by: Momo on December 29, 2019, 12:45:17 PM
Post by: shosta on December 29, 2019, 06:35:38 PM
This is clearly an auditionhttps://twitter.com/clairlemon/status/1211060972363767809
:delicious
Post by: curly on December 29, 2019, 06:52:09 PM
Post by: curly on December 29, 2019, 06:58:05 PM
Post by: Tripon on December 29, 2019, 10:39:47 PM
Probably the only way francesca fiorentini could land a MSNBC show without losing her leftist cred, I guess.
Post by: Tripon on December 31, 2019, 12:54:47 PM
Post by: shosta on December 31, 2019, 01:11:43 PM
:delicioushttps://twitter.com/clairlemon/status/1211767907107004417
She wants to talk about race science sooooo bad :lol
Post by: EchoRin on December 31, 2019, 06:51:29 PM
https://youtu.be/otKvMM2CPUI
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 31, 2019, 07:41:02 PM
Post by: Oblivion on January 01, 2020, 12:12:16 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 01, 2020, 12:37:01 AM
Post by: benjipwns on January 01, 2020, 11:03:41 PM
Quote
Bret Stephens’ article was ridiculous, eugenicist garbage. But calls to boycott the newspaper won’t help
Quote
Sadly, the morning the column debuted, Twitter commentary lurched from biting and witty takedowns of Stephens to calls to “boycott” the New York Times over the foolishness of one of dozens of contributors to but one section of a massive multimedia news and entertainment company. (Disclosure: I occasionally write op-eds for the Times.)
Although the harsh criticism of Stephens and the Times was completely warranted, in other respects the response – especially the calls for boycott – was misguided. Such posing not only simulates real political action, it displaces it, satiating one’s need to feel like one has done something. This is an example of a non-boycott boycott, narcissistic stunts we have seen emerge with targets like Starbucks and Facebook in recent years.
Before anyone says “What about South Africa?” or “What about the lunch counters during the civil rights movement?”, yes, specific, targeted, organized boycotts that generate real financial harm and demand serious sacrifice or risk by participants can effect change. But none of that is happening with these hashtag eruptions.
Potentially effective boycotts are focused, local, disciplined, and have specific, articulated goals and demands. They must bring public shame and measurable financial harm to a firm. A few people tweeting “I’m going to stop subscribing to the Times because of Bret Stephens” does not rise to the level of successful social movements or tactics.
If one believes, in the absence of evidence, that a few dozen Twitter users canceling subscriptions to the New York Times would affect decisions at the Times, one does not understand the incentives embedded in the attention economy. The Times, like most other globally available web publications (including Breitbart and any number of white supremacist sites), benefits from umbrage as much as applause.
Futility aside, to threaten to withhold revenue to any respectable news publication at this moment in history is hard to justify. We need quality journalism, expensive investigations, and bright commentary more than ever. The Times, for all its flaws, overwhelmingly delivers all of these things. The Times has serious lapses in judgment and reporting – like any publication, including The Guardian – but we should not wish for a day when The New York Times does not exist.
A fake boycott of the Times would be meaningless at best, counterproductive at worst. What can we do about the Bret Stephens problem, then? The only reasonable and potentially effective response is to push at what the leaders of the Times care about as much as their revenue: their reputation for seriousness and responsibility. Shaming the Times works better than threatening the Times.
Post by: Nintex on January 02, 2020, 01:11:27 PM
Post by: VomKriege on January 02, 2020, 01:12:34 PM
:doge
Post by: EchoRin on January 02, 2020, 02:50:52 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 02, 2020, 03:23:35 PM
Post by: Momo on January 02, 2020, 03:26:29 PM
Post by: EchoRin on January 02, 2020, 03:30:12 PM
long man bad is a pretty silly argument to make, already seeing people outing themselves as mental midgets, that being said, not a chance on earth im watching this video, not interested in the slightest :heh :nope
If you want the more standard version of her vids I think you can bow out at like the 30 or 40 minute mark where it eventually transitions into her specific experiences. The first third is mainly about the topic of Canceling.
Post by: Momo on January 02, 2020, 03:35:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSxWpAC_H-c
not sure how i feel about this tbh
Post by: team filler on January 02, 2020, 03:37:06 PM
Post by: Momo on January 02, 2020, 03:39:20 PM
Post by: team filler on January 02, 2020, 03:50:34 PM
Post by: HardcoreRetro on January 02, 2020, 03:57:38 PM
Post by: curly on January 02, 2020, 04:00:11 PM
Bro 90% of your posts are you claiming you don't care about the thing you're posting about
Post by: Momo on January 02, 2020, 04:13:08 PM
bih needs to be slapped anytime he starts talking foreign policy ::)I'm obviously not very interested in the specifically american stuff :yuck
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 02, 2020, 04:29:03 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 02, 2020, 04:48:10 PM
putting this here for later
Post by: Momo on January 02, 2020, 05:13:31 PM
you do fall back on disinterest for purposes of avoidance, not that I find it bothersome or something to hold against youWell it's not topical, depends on who replies to me, I find a bunch of people on here not worth engaging with so I wont, I'd talk at length with others. If we're talking about contrapoints, someone in here linked me to them for the first time and I died laughing at what was put forth as a coherent 'counterpoint', havent been interested since, never will be again, i do however despise the 'long man bad' argument as it doesnt go beyond 'i dont have time for this therefor it sux'.
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 02, 2020, 05:19:45 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 02, 2020, 06:00:31 PM
* unless its quotes about having wet dreams about your grandma.
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 02, 2020, 08:41:11 PM
Post by: agrajag on January 02, 2020, 08:44:55 PM
you do fall back on disinterest for purposes of avoidance, not that I find it bothersome or something to hold against youWell it's not topical, depends on who replies to me, I find a bunch of people on here not worth engaging with so I wont, I'd talk at length with others. If we're talking about contrapoints, someone in here linked me to them for the first time and I died laughing at what was put forth as a coherent 'counterpoint', havent been interested since, never will be again, i do however despise the 'long man bad' argument as it doesnt go beyond 'i dont have time for this therefor it sux'.
contrapoints makes some good arguments, if you can get past all the cringe whimsy, which I personally cannot, but it's kind of weird to dismiss her on that basis. Don't you follow that boxxy lookalike? She is way more of a surface level thinker than contra
Post by: VomKriege on January 02, 2020, 08:46:10 PM
Post by: Momo on January 02, 2020, 10:28:09 PM
I follow boxxy cause she makes smart people arguments like a baffoon and it's entertaining. Contrapoints makes dumb people arguments with theatre and misdirection. Listen I'm not going to watch the video, I'm not interested, I just wanted to add that people who trash it based on length are morons.you do fall back on disinterest for purposes of avoidance, not that I find it bothersome or something to hold against youWell it's not topical, depends on who replies to me, I find a bunch of people on here not worth engaging with so I wont, I'd talk at length with others. If we're talking about contrapoints, someone in here linked me to them for the first time and I died laughing at what was put forth as a coherent 'counterpoint', havent been interested since, never will be again, i do however despise the 'long man bad' argument as it doesnt go beyond 'i dont have time for this therefor it sux'.
contrapoints makes some good arguments, if you can get past all the cringe whimsy, which I personally cannot, but it's kind of weird to dismiss her on that basis. Don't you follow that boxxy lookalike? She is way more of a surface level thinker than contra
Post by: agrajag on January 03, 2020, 01:40:05 AM
:camby
Post by: Momo on January 03, 2020, 02:20:36 AM
Post by: Tripon on January 03, 2020, 02:20:53 AM
Post by: team filler on January 03, 2020, 02:25:22 AM
Post by: agrajag on January 03, 2020, 02:41:50 AM
not sure how this has escalated to disagreeing with each other's opinions, about the worst place a conversation can go
I just wanted to shit on the boxxy lookalike and her dumb boyfriend :yeshrug
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 03, 2020, 02:46:55 AM
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1212953725565751296
Post by: Momo on January 03, 2020, 03:12:33 AM
Her boyfriend is such a toe-cheese flake :deadnot sure how this has escalated to disagreeing with each other's opinions, about the worst place a conversation can go
I just wanted to shit on the boxxy lookalike and her dumb boyfriend :yeshrug
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 03, 2020, 09:32:28 AM
https://twitter.com/williamlegate/status/1212962834457468929
Go fight in the Middle East to own the libs, brehs.
Post by: Brehvolution on January 03, 2020, 09:38:22 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 03, 2020, 06:38:57 PM
https://twitter.com/prageru/status/1213163807318499328
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 03, 2020, 08:14:15 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 03, 2020, 10:51:47 PM
https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1211650455815766017
Post by: EchoRin on January 04, 2020, 01:01:19 PM
Finally. I've been missing J Beep content one way or another.
Post by: Rufus on January 04, 2020, 02:49:02 PM
Post by: EchoRin on January 04, 2020, 02:58:53 PM
Why does this guy's manner of speaking remind me so much of SuperBunnyHop? Are they from the same area of the country?
Both have facial hair. Questionable level of hair remaining, but still enough. :thinking
Post by: Momo on January 05, 2020, 11:42:39 PM
Jordan Peterson annihilated
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 06, 2020, 10:18:46 PM
Post by: Tripon on January 06, 2020, 10:22:06 PM
Rubin mad he didn't consider this grift.
Edit: Mind you, I think Cenk is serious about running for CA-25
Post by: benjipwns on January 06, 2020, 10:27:30 PM
Post by: Kara on January 06, 2020, 10:30:30 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 06, 2020, 10:36:37 PM
If Cenk had planned ahead though, no, you're right, wouldn't be a problem. Hopefully he recently started a vendor service.
Post by: shosta on January 07, 2020, 01:57:16 AM
Probably should fuck upHere is my specific confusion about you. Are you for the minimal state monopoly, or the purely voluntary state (replicating the international anarchy within the current national boundaries)?Lassiez FaWank Dad with this AMA type thing
Post by: Momo on January 07, 2020, 02:07:59 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 07, 2020, 02:15:26 AM
https://communemag.com/six-steps-to-abolish-the-family/
Post by: benjipwns on January 07, 2020, 03:37:56 AM
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She currently works with the NYC Trans Oral History Project, and is helping to start a new queer-communist journal called Pinko.:doge
Post by: benjipwns on January 07, 2020, 03:57:06 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VoluntaryismProbably should fuck upHere is my specific confusion about you. Are you for the minimal state monopoly, or the purely voluntary state (replicating the international anarchy within the current national boundaries)?Lassiez FaWank Dad with this AMA type thing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_anarchism
I'm wishy-washy on defense. I personally do not subscribe to it, but consider it the only thing resembling an acceptable form of violence. I'm also aware of the loophole this creates and that Kroptokin (and far lessers) drove a truck through.
Regarding the ol' politologie quotes or Hayek quotes or whatever, I don't quote only people I agree with 100% because I don't know if there's any of those, and sometimes I don't agree almost at all with someone I quote except for the specific statement. Calvin Coolidge, especially being a white man of his time, has a lot of quotes I'd never touch, but he still has my Apex President quote of the ones I've come across:
Quote from: Calvin Coolidge
If all men are created equal, that is final. If they are endowed with inalienable rights, that is final. If governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed, that is final. No advance, no progress can be made beyond these propositions. If anyone wishes to deny their truth or their soundness, the only direction in which he can proceed historically is not forward, but backward toward the time when there was no equality, no rights of the individual, no rule of the people. Those who wish to proceed in that direction can not lay claim to progress. They are reactionary.Then sometimes they're just interesting to think about, or compare something to, like whenever I quote from The Doctrine of Fascism.
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 07, 2020, 05:28:20 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 07, 2020, 08:24:27 PM
https://twitter.com/nhannahjones/status/1199525426286206976
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 07, 2020, 09:02:42 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 07, 2020, 09:11:08 PM
*improved
Post by: Tripon on January 07, 2020, 09:30:22 PM
I'm legit trying to figure out why he posted Jackie Chan and a random Indian lady.
Post by: shosta on January 07, 2020, 09:34:17 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 07, 2020, 09:36:16 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENnQ-ByWwAAPU_E.jpg)
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 07, 2020, 10:21:19 PM
Post by: EchoRin on January 07, 2020, 10:23:01 PM
I don't get it. He's suppose to look like Yang?
There is a tweet that I think CNBC posted about campaign money for each candidate and they put the wrong Yang. The tweet is in another thread somewhere. Let me go find it
edit: here
https://twitter.com/geoff_yang/status/1214244103174512644
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 07, 2020, 10:36:21 PM
Post by: Oblivion on January 07, 2020, 11:31:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZoHGAK3k-I
i know most of JP's arguments here aren't new, but holy shit, i keep forgetting just how goddamned stupid this man is.
Post by: Momo on January 07, 2020, 11:38:42 PM
https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1214037300402966528I didnt expect to see Diabito in this thread :lol
Post by: team filler on January 08, 2020, 03:22:31 PM
:dobbs
Post by: Nintex on January 08, 2020, 03:30:21 PM
https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1214991222009409536Ah yes, the good old I was 'hacked' :heh
:dobbs
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 08, 2020, 08:10:02 PM
Post by: Tripon on January 08, 2020, 09:04:24 PM
This guy is an idiot.
Post by: Kara on January 08, 2020, 09:15:05 PM
Post by: shosta on January 08, 2020, 09:36:23 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 08, 2020, 09:37:54 PM
Post by: Kara on January 08, 2020, 10:35:53 PM
Post by: shosta on January 08, 2020, 10:36:08 PM
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I'm Queer, covered in tattoos and vote Liberal Democratnewsfeed
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Their smear campaigns against me will only get worse the better I donewsfeed
Post by: Momo on January 08, 2020, 11:48:14 PM
Big Brain Time for Diabeto :brain :dead
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 08, 2020, 11:57:42 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 09, 2020, 12:00:21 AM
Post by: Tripon on January 09, 2020, 01:56:24 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 09, 2020, 08:50:02 AM
Post by: Nintex on January 09, 2020, 10:11:23 AM
https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1215080448113725441First a hack now a scam? :lol
This guy is an idiot.
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 09, 2020, 11:08:00 AM
It's entirely possible he got duped and ran to Twitter first instead of IT like a moron. Sextortion scams with btc ransoms are extremely popular right now and all it'd take is a little tweek.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/07/sextortion-scam-what-do-if-you-get-latest-phishing-spam-demanding-bitcoin
I work with old people, they believe anything that pops up on their computer.
Post by: EchoRin on January 09, 2020, 11:42:45 AM
Ya ok boomer. What I love about this is how it preys on sex negative aspect of all societies. Essentially trying to use shame and guilt about something no one should feel shame and guilt about. So I consider these people extra cunty thanks to the social aspect of it.
But they can't win when you don't play the game aka "nah fuck you. Sex is normal. Watching people bang is normal. Go fuck yourself you puritan scum."
Post by: Nintex on January 09, 2020, 11:45:15 AM
Those are my favorite spam scams. "We know what porn you've been watching and we are gonna release all your site visits. We see you've been watching some pretty raunchy stuff. Wouldn't want your family to know that, huh. Pay us... by... or else...".Not really an option if you're in the James/Attra club though :idont
Ya ok boomer. What I love about this is how it preys on sex negative aspect of all societies. Essentially trying to use shame and guilt about something no one should feel shame and guilt about. So I consider these people extra cunty thanks to the social aspect of it.
But they can't win when you don't play the game aka "nah fuck you. Sex is normal. Watching people bang is normal. Go fuck yourself you puritan scum."
Also Krugman made the mistake of claiming he was on the phone with his own computer security service and then backpedaling to say it was a scam.
So his own computer security service scammed him? The story makes as much sense as around november 2018 when 'someone' had used his email to sign up for live web cam sex. :lol
Post by: HardcoreRetro on January 09, 2020, 11:50:15 AM
Which wife?
Post by: Nintex on January 09, 2020, 12:00:52 PM
Post by: bluemax on January 09, 2020, 10:27:22 PM
Those are my favorite spam scams. "We know what porn you've been watching and we are gonna release all your site visits. We see you've been watching some pretty raunchy stuff. Wouldn't want your family to know that, huh. Pay us... by... or else...".
Ya ok boomer. What I love about this is how it preys on sex negative aspect of all societies. Essentially trying to use shame and guilt about something no one should feel shame and guilt about. So I consider these people extra cunty thanks to the social aspect of it.
But they can't win when you don't play the game aka "nah fuck you. Sex is normal. Watching people bang is normal. Go fuck yourself you puritan scum."
I got one of these emails and googled it. Apparently a lot of people fall for it though. So far my parents haven't called to ask me why I watch so much vanilla porn.
Post by: Oblivion on January 10, 2020, 03:00:19 AM
i mean, yeah i'm a bit biased cause i like krugman (mostly) and don't want to find out that he may be a pedo, but it's not impossible he could have been hacked/threatened.
Post by: Kara on January 10, 2020, 04:48:57 AM
https://twitter.com/drilosophers/status/1215480712440295426
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 10, 2020, 09:22:36 PM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on January 12, 2020, 02:18:02 PM
Post by: EchoRin on January 12, 2020, 02:34:13 PM
Post by: Crash Dummy on January 13, 2020, 01:04:03 AM
roger scruton just died. still waiting on john finnisall the tweets i'm seeing on scruton are other academics saying "oh of course while i had a healthy disagreement with his politics he was a super nice guy in person! look how nice his office was!"
Post by: Momo on January 13, 2020, 01:33:26 AM
I'm sure a lot of people have thought this, but you're not actually supposed to broadcast it Diabeto :lol
Post by: team filler on January 13, 2020, 07:43:38 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 13, 2020, 10:41:29 PM
Post by: team filler on January 14, 2020, 12:28:04 AM
:fbm
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 14, 2020, 09:09:03 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 14, 2020, 09:35:29 AM
Maybe don't tweet about 30 year old women's eggs if you don't want future employers to see it when they search you weirdo
I need to delete some tweets
Post by: shosta on January 14, 2020, 07:00:59 PM
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on January 14, 2020, 07:04:53 PM
Maybe don't tweet about 30 year old women's eggs if you don't want future employers to see it when they search you weirdo
i once called someone a WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE on twitter, at a guy who really is worse than a whore to be fair, and a fucking newspaper printed my rage with name, profile photo and all. :lol
Ngl I was slightly proud, that a rage tweet could get that amount of attention, and a few people I know noticed and laughed at it. Luckily the online article is gone now, so I can claim ignorance and it not being me.
Post by: Tripon on January 14, 2020, 10:52:07 PM
:awesome
Post by: Oblivion on January 15, 2020, 12:04:42 AM
https://twitter.com/themattdimitri/status/1216623809576357893
:fbm
i thought this egg counter was super rich (especially in recent years)? is being a rightwing 'thought leader' on social media no longer a lucrative position?
Post by: Oblivion on January 15, 2020, 12:07:33 AM
https://twitter.com/VicBergerIV/status/1217197730402951168
https://twitter.com/VicBergerIV/status/1217225517805342720
https://twitter.com/nathanTbernard/status/1217202113954177024
why are these people so bad at everything
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 15, 2020, 09:13:20 AM
Post by: Brehvolution on January 15, 2020, 11:22:00 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 15, 2020, 02:28:18 PM
Post by: shosta on January 15, 2020, 02:32:27 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 15, 2020, 02:34:14 PM
So you're saying he went to a rich private school where the kids are much less likely to be seriously punished for their behavior.
not to advocate beating kids, but it is cases like this that show that everyone buts whites values the tough in tough love for a reason
Post by: EchoRin on January 15, 2020, 02:39:06 PM
And bullying can happen at any level. Hoity toity private schools aren't immune to that.
/care post
Post by: team filler on January 15, 2020, 02:41:38 PM
Post by: EchoRin on January 15, 2020, 02:49:04 PM
he was raised a zionist :pacspit
Lol! You have your own word filter :lol :lol :lol :lol
Post by: team filler on January 15, 2020, 02:49:42 PM
Post by: Tripon on January 15, 2020, 03:52:15 PM
Post by: VomKriege on January 15, 2020, 04:09:19 PM
Shapiro is also mad at Hollywood in general for not making it. If he had one but, he'd just be in the closet conservative hoping nobody looked him up.
Yeah there's this interview for his book about how he failed to get his spec scripts through and how that points to BIG LIBERAL MEDIA.
His dad is also a music teacher, he mentions it when he pontificates about rap music.
Post by: nachobro on January 15, 2020, 04:13:38 PM
Post by: shosta on January 15, 2020, 04:20:37 PM
:nsfw
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENO8VFMW4AA5Knz.jpg)
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MUfHmgGFHUs/XNECdnlCiCI/AAAAAAALCXA/NNpdM0CQVrYRoLfMjuSSDD1bMFWtMP7bQCLcBGAs/s1600/1557184944971.jpg)
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MUfHmgGFHUs/XNECdnlCiCI/AAAAAAALCXA/NNpdM0CQVrYRoLfMjuSSDD1bMFWtMP7bQCLcBGAs/s1600/1557184944971.jpg)
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Post by: team filler on January 15, 2020, 04:27:53 PM
Post by: Oblivion on January 15, 2020, 05:06:28 PM
unfortunately, he seems to have grown up really privileged so likely experienced zero corrective bullying
that actually isn't true. apparently, he was picked on constantly in high school, because he skipped like two grades (though more than likely it was just cause of him being him)
which makes me feel at least a little bit better
Post by: VomKriege on January 15, 2020, 05:08:20 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 15, 2020, 05:11:21 PM
Post by: Kara on January 15, 2020, 06:40:47 PM
Post by: Kara on January 15, 2020, 06:42:05 PM
Christian person who believes in the development and protection of a Jewish nation
Anti-person who believes in the development and protection of a Jewish nation
person who believes in the development and protection of a Jewish nation-Occupied Government
Post by: VomKriege on January 15, 2020, 06:43:44 PM
filler-Occupied Government
FOG :rethread
The Protocols of the Elders of Fill : PEF dispensers.
Post by: team filler on January 15, 2020, 06:44:49 PM
Post by: shosta on January 15, 2020, 07:05:32 PM
While I think it's a bad sign, it is super funny that the word filter for a kind of Jewish nationalist is filler.even better is triple parens
(((Them)))
Post by: Oblivion on January 15, 2020, 09:34:38 PM
how many of you jews got women with huge tits in your family? :rash
90% of the white women i would see on OK Cupid that had big tiddies happened to be jewish (my gf is actually half jewish :rejoice ). unfortunately, nearly 100% of them mentioned in their profile that they only wanted to date other jews :doge
fucking racists
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 15, 2020, 09:40:00 PM
my gf is actually half jewish :rejoice
and she got one big tit and one small one.
Post by: Kara on January 15, 2020, 09:42:31 PM
While I think it's a bad sign, it is super funny that the word filter for a kind of Jewish nationalist is filler.even better is triple parens
fillerThemrellif
:neogaf
Post by: Tripon on January 15, 2020, 09:45:19 PM
Post by: Oblivion on January 15, 2020, 09:46:55 PM
my gf is actually half jewish :rejoice
and she got one big tit and one small one.
no, because the other half is polish! :rejoice
Post by: shosta on January 15, 2020, 09:49:25 PM
Post by: EchoRin on January 15, 2020, 10:31:36 PM
https://twitter.com/CobiManessUno/status/1215765367445786624
Oh...
This makes her hotter to me. A living meme :-*
Post by: Momo on January 16, 2020, 12:23:58 AM
Post by: Kara on January 16, 2020, 12:31:04 AM
Still kind of fleeces rich people for a living though I guess.
Let's here it for the Shapiro family praxis. :clap
Post by: Tripon on January 16, 2020, 12:34:53 AM
Post by: team filler on January 16, 2020, 01:01:37 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/i3WjoCb.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qsIzwCq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/wljbxXQ.gif)
(https://i.imgur.com/jR0j6Om.jpg)
khazar milkers worth supporting apartheid for :stahp
Post by: Momo on January 16, 2020, 01:06:16 AM
Dragging? I think we just appreciate large busts.Posted in this context? Yeah I think it's dragging, not that I care, I just wanted to know if she was a 'tard or not.
Post by: Kara on January 16, 2020, 01:53:13 AM
Post by: Oblivion on January 16, 2020, 02:17:11 AM
Ah the inevitable drift into Khazar posting. :whatsthedeal
is it racist to rub one out to that "ironically"? :dunno
Post by: team filler on January 16, 2020, 02:35:25 AM
Post by: shosta on January 16, 2020, 02:43:39 AM
Post by: EchoRin on January 16, 2020, 02:43:48 AM
Edit: hey Filler. Look up "Ben Shapiro' Sister's Tits" on Twitter. I think you will enjoy.
Post by: Momo on January 16, 2020, 02:47:57 AM
diabeto :rejoice
Post by: Momo on January 16, 2020, 02:49:59 AM
What a smart guy :rejoice
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 16, 2020, 02:58:17 AM
Post by: Oblivion on January 16, 2020, 03:55:44 PM
https://i.redd.it/488zv20rb6b41.jpg
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 16, 2020, 03:57:15 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 16, 2020, 04:00:46 PM
Post by: team filler on January 16, 2020, 04:04:14 PM
how many of you jews got women with huge tits in your family? :rashhow many of them sucked sweet sweet lechita out of big khazar milkers as babbies... or later in life :drool
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 16, 2020, 04:51:44 PM
Post by: Momo on January 16, 2020, 11:49:36 PM
movieblob is such a low hanging fruit but picking it is catharticI know, but this fucker :dead
https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1218003484005617665
Post by: VomKriege on January 17, 2020, 03:22:53 AM
movieblob is such a low hanging fruit but picking it is catharticI know, but this fucker :dead
https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1218003484005617665
Ugh, democracy. ::)
Don't @ me, Prez.
Post by: BIONIC on January 17, 2020, 07:00:04 AM
Post by: nachobro on January 17, 2020, 08:39:44 AM
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 17, 2020, 09:16:05 AM
Post by: Tripon on January 18, 2020, 06:05:32 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 18, 2020, 06:42:22 PM
Post by: VomKriege on January 18, 2020, 06:47:39 PM
https://twitter.com/REALpunknews/status/1218669526981672960
(https://i.imgur.com/cFODe4F.jpg)
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 18, 2020, 11:08:34 PM
this channel is decent.
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 19, 2020, 03:44:45 PM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1218350114927935495
Post by: shosta on January 19, 2020, 04:06:34 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 19, 2020, 04:09:44 PM
I just recalled this guy was a real piece of shit with that Bourdain spat.
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 19, 2020, 04:10:29 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/9JTkupQ.jpg)
Post by: team filler on January 19, 2020, 04:12:55 PM
Post by: Kara on January 19, 2020, 04:15:47 PM
https://twitter.com/dril/status/831805955402776576
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 19, 2020, 04:20:31 PM
https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/1218673429299126272
Post by: shosta on January 19, 2020, 04:53:59 PM
she's really doing it
Post by: team filler on January 19, 2020, 05:34:32 PM
Post by: Momo on January 20, 2020, 12:32:02 AM
the most important outcome though(https://i.imgur.com/Ii3kP8C.png)
https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/1218673429299126272
Post by: Momo on January 20, 2020, 12:52:41 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 20, 2020, 01:03:27 PM
Post by: nachobro on January 20, 2020, 01:51:18 PM
Post by: Tripon on January 21, 2020, 12:02:09 AM
Bari Weiss got onto the Joe Rogan show. :lol
Post by: Momo on January 21, 2020, 12:04:49 AM
Post by: Momo on January 21, 2020, 12:17:03 AM
Post by: Oblivion on January 21, 2020, 05:59:44 AM
not joe for some reason, however :doge
Post by: Momo on January 21, 2020, 06:09:47 AM
she's getting shredded in the comments :neogafmeh youtube, people are calling him out here -> https://old.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/erpuo0/joe_rogan_experience_1415_bari_weiss/
not joe for some reason, however :doge
Especially since this is the follow-up to him having CIA PR on last show
Post by: Oblivion on January 21, 2020, 06:26:53 AM
she's getting shredded in the comments :neogafmeh youtube, people are calling him out here -> https://old.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/erpuo0/joe_rogan_experience_1415_bari_weiss/
not joe for some reason, however :doge
Especially since this is the follow-up to him having CIA PR on last show
i barely see any criticism on there as well ???
not that it matters too much. i enjoy seeing bari get piled on
Post by: Momo on January 21, 2020, 06:38:33 AM
Post by: team filler on January 21, 2020, 04:08:29 PM
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Damien Rees
14 hours ago
Ironic she talks about slavery, who owned all the slave ships and why was they a star of David on a port in Kenya?
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Emma Uncanny
14 hours ago
Since 1984, the billions of dollars the US sends to Israel isn’t in the form of loans, it is GRANTS. They have universal healthcare and college is subsidized.
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Strung Up
9 hours ago
"Everyone has hated us since forever, it's their fault though"
Imagine accepting this line of reasoning from anyone else.
"I've been divorced 5 times but it was never my fault"
Bip Bap
14 hours ago
I was kicked out of 109 bars. It was never my fault.
"I've been fired from every job I've ever had and it was never my fault"
:delicious
Post by: Nintex on January 21, 2020, 04:16:31 PM
:rogan
Post by: Kara on January 21, 2020, 04:21:47 PM
Post by: Oblivion on January 21, 2020, 09:05:31 PM
welcome to the gulags, comrade rogan :ussrcry
Post by: team filler on January 21, 2020, 09:08:18 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 21, 2020, 09:35:10 PM
https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1219560919874899970
https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1219591788572434432
Post by: team filler on January 21, 2020, 11:05:01 PM
Post by: Momo on January 21, 2020, 11:35:46 PM
momo's favThe King :rejoice
https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1219560919874899970
https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1219591788572434432
Post by: team filler on January 21, 2020, 11:36:27 PM
Post by: Momo on January 22, 2020, 08:58:59 AM
Mods I demand you get your racist asses in here and rename this thread :maf
Post by: Tripon on January 22, 2020, 10:13:54 PM
Post by: team filler on January 22, 2020, 11:14:49 PM
THIS SON OF A BITCH HAS GONE TOO FAR :social
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 22, 2020, 11:16:22 PM
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1220181496113303555
Jacket and tie with distressed denim jeans :donot
Post by: Momo on January 23, 2020, 02:02:29 AM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1220086271302950912who does he think he is, the pregnancy police?
THIS SON OF A BITCH HAS GONE TOO FAR :social
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 23, 2020, 03:00:46 AM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1220086271302950912
THIS SON OF A BITCH HAS GONE TOO FAR :social
:maf
Post by: VomKriege on January 23, 2020, 03:47:49 AM
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 23, 2020, 09:05:54 AM
Post by: nachobro on January 23, 2020, 09:13:35 AM
Post by: Nintex on January 23, 2020, 02:50:11 PM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1220086271302950912You gotta appreciate a guy staying on brand
THIS SON OF A BITCH HAS GONE TOO FAR :social
Post by: Tripon on January 23, 2020, 09:30:39 PM
Post by: Tripon on January 23, 2020, 09:38:34 PM
https://twitter.com/hexen220/status/1219648700206551040
They mad.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/gaywonk/status/1220554118034608128
https://twitter.com/sadydoyle/status/1220513471995031554
https://twitter.com/Ring_Sheryl/status/1220496027733590016
https://twitter.com/mikeyfranklin/status/1220499891471994883
https://twitter.com/shannoncoulter/status/1220510779071295488
https://twitter.com/TheStagmania/status/1220516616661864449
https://twitter.com/ag_due/status/1220520871363796992
https://twitter.com/traceyecorder/status/1220489425500569600
https://twitter.com/riotwomennn/status/1220519419245486081
https://twitter.com/TheStagmania/status/1220490308514975748
https://twitter.com/sadydoyle/status/1220513471995031554
https://twitter.com/Ring_Sheryl/status/1220496027733590016
https://twitter.com/mikeyfranklin/status/1220499891471994883
https://twitter.com/shannoncoulter/status/1220510779071295488
https://twitter.com/TheStagmania/status/1220516616661864449
https://twitter.com/ag_due/status/1220520871363796992
https://twitter.com/traceyecorder/status/1220489425500569600
https://twitter.com/riotwomennn/status/1220519419245486081
https://twitter.com/TheStagmania/status/1220490308514975748
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Post by: shosta on January 23, 2020, 09:41:22 PM
Post by: Tripon on January 23, 2020, 09:46:43 PM
thanks tripon
You're welcome.
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1220556820621729793
Post by: nachobro on January 23, 2020, 09:57:28 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 23, 2020, 10:10:51 PM
joe rogan also believes there shouldn't be a president cause we dumb apes can't elect anyone worthwhile and that we should just have a council of "really smart people" run the world so in that context bernie is actually his second choice :yeshrug
Sounds like a smart guy, does he have a podcast where I can listen to more of his views?
Post by: nachobro on January 23, 2020, 10:13:37 PM
Post by: team filler on January 23, 2020, 10:17:24 PM
they all loved hill dawg in 2016 tho :kermithttps://twitter.com/hexen220/status/1219648700206551040
They mad.spoiler (click to show/hide)https://twitter.com/sadydoyle/status/1220513471995031554
https://twitter.com/Ring_Sheryl/status/1220496027733590016
https://twitter.com/mikeyfranklin/status/1220499891471994883
https://twitter.com/shannoncoulter/status/1220510779071295488
https://twitter.com/TheStagmania/status/1220516616661864449
https://twitter.com/ag_due/status/1220520871363796992
https://twitter.com/traceyecorder/status/1220489425500569600
https://twitter.com/riotwomennn/status/1220519419245486081
https://twitter.com/TheStagmania/status/1220490308514975748[close]
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 23, 2020, 10:18:24 PM
Post by: Tripon on January 23, 2020, 10:25:37 PM
Post by: Tripon on January 23, 2020, 10:45:34 PM
Probably goes in late stage capitalism as well.
Post by: Tripon on January 23, 2020, 10:53:20 PM
Post by: Momo on January 24, 2020, 01:11:30 AM
someone familiar with the identity politics here let me in on the secret, why do absolute fuckbags like carlos maza hate Bernie? He's the most left of all the candidates and aligns with them best, whot the fuck do they actually want? AOC?https://twitter.com/hexen220/status/1219648700206551040 (https://twitter.com/hexen220/status/1219648700206551040)
They mad.spoiler (click to show/hide)https://twitter.com/gaywonk/status/1220554118034608128 (https://twitter.com/gaywonk/status/1220554118034608128)
https://twitter.com/sadydoyle/status/1220513471995031554 (https://twitter.com/sadydoyle/status/1220513471995031554)
https://twitter.com/Ring_Sheryl/status/1220496027733590016 (https://twitter.com/Ring_Sheryl/status/1220496027733590016)
https://twitter.com/mikeyfranklin/status/1220499891471994883 (https://twitter.com/mikeyfranklin/status/1220499891471994883)
https://twitter.com/shannoncoulter/status/1220510779071295488 (https://twitter.com/shannoncoulter/status/1220510779071295488)
https://twitter.com/TheStagmania/status/1220516616661864449 (https://twitter.com/TheStagmania/status/1220516616661864449)
https://twitter.com/ag_due/status/1220520871363796992 (https://twitter.com/ag_due/status/1220520871363796992)
https://twitter.com/traceyecorder/status/1220489425500569600 (https://twitter.com/traceyecorder/status/1220489425500569600)
https://twitter.com/riotwomennn/status/1220519419245486081 (https://twitter.com/riotwomennn/status/1220519419245486081)
https://twitter.com/TheStagmania/status/1220490308514975748 (https://twitter.com/TheStagmania/status/1220490308514975748)[close]
Post by: Mandark on January 24, 2020, 01:25:19 AM
Post by: Momo on January 24, 2020, 01:37:37 AM
you're so weird, momoI'm the weirdest guy I know, but why weird in this context?
Post by: Mandark on January 24, 2020, 01:42:02 AM
Post by: Momo on January 24, 2020, 01:46:54 AM
the way you're so conflict-averse and are uncomfortable with harsh criticisms of (for example) jordan peterson or alex jones then call some rose emoji an "absolute fuckbag"I'm not conflict averse, I'm averse to wasting my time by arguing strawmen, like you right here trying to paint me as a jordan peterson/alex jones defender when I was clearly critical of 'journalism' and always have been regardless of who is on the receiving end. If you bothered to follow anything about things that get me mad, you would realise I call Maza an absolute fuckbag, because he is responsible for the thing that I always get mad about - faux journalism.
Post by: Mandark on January 24, 2020, 01:52:23 AM
I'm not conflict averse
you said people disagreeing with each other is the "worst place a conversation can go"
Post by: Momo on January 24, 2020, 01:56:00 AM
I said disagreeing about *opinions* is the worst place a conversation can go. go pull up the quote and also realise the context.I'm not conflict averse
you said people disagreeing with each other is the "worst place a conversation can go"
Post by: Momo on January 24, 2020, 01:59:44 AM
Also before you get in your last dunk about me proving im conflict averse with this post, please realise this is not about that but 100% about you being how you are so goodbye i guess.
Post by: Mandark on January 24, 2020, 02:04:13 AM
I said disagreeing about *opinions* is the worst place a conversation can go. go pull up the quote and also realise the context.
is that not conflict aversion?
Post by: team filler on January 24, 2020, 02:15:20 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/nWRg7yp.jpg)I said disagreeing about *opinions* is the worst place a conversation can go. go pull up the quote and also realise the context.
is that not conflict aversion?
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 24, 2020, 02:16:52 AM
and also, F
Post by: Mandark on January 24, 2020, 02:20:26 AM
Post by: team filler on January 24, 2020, 02:24:27 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 24, 2020, 02:30:37 AM
Post by: team filler on January 24, 2020, 02:31:49 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 24, 2020, 02:32:54 AM
it's probably best, for all parties involved
Post by: Momo on January 24, 2020, 02:38:40 AM
so how are all you on this fine, fine dayI just got a chai tea :lawd
Post by: team filler on January 24, 2020, 03:12:22 AM
spiced? :hitlerso how are all you on this fine, fine dayI just got a chai tea :lawd
P.S. you can just say "chai", bb
Post by: Momo on January 24, 2020, 03:47:10 AM
Post by: EchoRin on January 24, 2020, 07:44:30 AM
The only CHAI I needspiced? :hitlerso how are all you on this fine, fine dayI just got a chai tea :lawd
P.S. you can just say "chai", bb
https://youtu.be/CZzyGHWdm_w
Post by: Nintex on January 24, 2020, 02:30:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xY_D8SMNtEThis is jamie's worst nightmare :lol
Post by: Tripon on January 24, 2020, 02:46:00 PM
Not related to madness
https://twitter.com/HardDriveMag/status/1220791048055808001
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 24, 2020, 04:11:39 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 24, 2020, 10:11:06 PM
https://twitter.com/mugrimm/status/1220546366025469953I'm so glad most of the key replies seem to be about the fact that he's dressed the same as the small child behind him.
Post by: benjipwns on January 24, 2020, 10:16:31 PM
Beyond that nonsense he's also totally unhinged and will throw hour long tantrums on Twitter where he tweets endlessly about his life is in danger until he gets the response he wants.
Plus he works at Vox, so he's like an elite tier journalist, not just an rose emoji person.
Post by: Mandark on January 24, 2020, 10:19:08 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 24, 2020, 10:25:30 PM
Post by: BisMarckie on January 24, 2020, 10:27:37 PM
Carlos Maza is an absolute fuckbag*looks up who the hell that is*
FACT CHECK:
"In 2017, the LGBT newspaper Washington Blade named him one of the 20 most eligible singles in the Washington, D.C. area."
Why is this in a wikipedia entry btw? :doge
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 24, 2020, 10:44:36 PM
breathe
hat trick
hat trick
we wanna see a hat trick
Post by: Tripon on January 24, 2020, 10:48:40 PM
I assume he's not serious. Maybe.
Post by: Mandark on January 24, 2020, 10:55:41 PM
it's not about maza, it's the contrast between momo's outbursts of glen-like rage contrasted with how clearly uncomfortable he was with direct disagreement and his qualified defenses of people like alex jones
similarly, when someone is as dedicated to the lol epic fuckery lifestyle as benji, it's interesting to note what gets him riled up
Post by: benjipwns on January 24, 2020, 11:03:52 PM
Post by: Mandark on January 24, 2020, 11:04:51 PM
Post by: shosta on January 24, 2020, 11:05:09 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 24, 2020, 11:08:57 PM
Post by: shosta on January 24, 2020, 11:11:38 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 24, 2020, 11:15:37 PM
So you're going to disavow von Mises, now? :jawalrusSTATIST SCUM:
Quote from: Ludwig von Mises
As the liberal sees it, the task of the state consists solely and exclusively in guaranteeing the protection of life, health, liberty, and private property against violent attacks. Everything that goes beyond this is an evil.
Post by: team filler on January 25, 2020, 04:04:39 AM
mahr is really all in with klob :lol
Post by: team filler on January 25, 2020, 04:11:17 PM
I could be wrong, but I get the feeling this bitch had no issue with what happened to assange or what's happening to greenwald. sure loves playing the victim now that littles slight comes her way ::)
Post by: Tripon on January 25, 2020, 04:15:54 PM
https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1221144062230659077
I could be wrong, but I get the feeling this bitch had no issue with what happened to assange or what's happening to greenwald. sure loves playing the victim now that littles slight comes her way ::)
https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1150861109907337220
https://twitter.com/bobfrombrockley/status/1123910898534555649
https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1170192060726566912
https://twitter.com/VABVOX/status/1117458920459644929
https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1132456568858054656
https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1131721389466103809
:juicy
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 26, 2020, 12:40:31 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 26, 2020, 01:08:39 AM
Post by: Oblivion on January 26, 2020, 08:04:22 PM
https://twitter.com/wideofthepost/status/1220922528048320513
mahr is really all in with klob :lol
how did you get that impression with that clip?
Post by: shosta on January 26, 2020, 11:23:31 PM
:lol
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 26, 2020, 11:30:52 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 26, 2020, 11:33:50 PM
Post by: shosta on January 26, 2020, 11:39:02 PM
Post by: Momo on January 26, 2020, 11:48:30 PM
This girl is a treasure <3
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 27, 2020, 12:26:10 AM
Other than the Nazi stuff, Richard Spencer is a pretty good troll. Plus he might have caused Sargon's mid-life crisis spiral. I'd link to a clip of the part where Sargon has his BSOD but you can't find it anywhere because one guy's a Nazi and banned from nearly everywhere, another guy's at least alt-right and banned from nearly everywhere and the last guy is Sargon, so the only version is the whole five hour long nonsense.
I don't mind his ramblings at times, given he has the massive narcissist who thinks he is so smart aura. The annoying poindexter. But then I recall the many things he has said that go beyond mildly offensive to pretty fucking racist.
Post by: benjipwns on January 27, 2020, 12:30:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgBxaeHvKwk
:jeb THE GOAT :jeb
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 27, 2020, 12:32:06 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 27, 2020, 02:49:42 AM
Post by: Momo on January 27, 2020, 03:22:05 AM
:dead
https://twitter.com/HorroMaster13/status/1221707598635900929
:dead :dead
Post by: Tripon on January 27, 2020, 11:17:12 AM
:expert
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 27, 2020, 11:50:08 AM
Post by: Tripon on January 27, 2020, 12:30:08 PM
David Frum knows about advocating for war. :awesome
Post by: EchoRin on January 27, 2020, 02:54:39 PM
:lol
Post by: Tripon on January 27, 2020, 08:41:41 PM
:dead
Post by: Tripon on January 27, 2020, 09:46:45 PM
:bow Peter :bow2
https://twitter.com/HenryKrinkIe/status/1221980538426351616
Are you saying that Stephan molynueux should read settlers?
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 27, 2020, 09:57:27 PM
Post by: shosta on January 27, 2020, 10:03:33 PM
https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/1221827357276807169
David Frum knows about advocating for war. :awesome
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But Sanders is a Marxist of the old school of dialectical materialism, from the land that time forgot.fuck, I wish
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on January 27, 2020, 10:27:34 PM
Would Varg go hereyes
Post by: Tripon on January 27, 2020, 10:34:34 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 27, 2020, 10:37:15 PM
(https://preview.redd.it/qk3z8wf8u4g31.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=b18c13e84b9bb4bef36e25f691051feb990c0391)
Post by: naff on January 27, 2020, 11:00:14 PM
https://twitter.com/Carzonfye/status/1221952405622923264
:shaking
i rarely click this thread now for fear of seeing a molyneux tweet and feeling weak for how much it triggers me
Post by: TEEEPO on January 27, 2020, 11:17:00 PM
Post by: naff on January 27, 2020, 11:20:01 PM
Post by: Momo on January 28, 2020, 12:05:25 AM
never really fantasized about murdering someone 'til i read molyneux tweetsi want to put him in a glass containment area with random blocks and toys, an internet connection and just livestream him 24/7
Post by: Momo on January 28, 2020, 12:17:33 AM
every fucking day :dead
Post by: Momo on January 28, 2020, 12:22:27 AM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 28, 2020, 12:41:36 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 28, 2020, 02:57:54 PM
Post by: nachobro on January 28, 2020, 03:47:06 PM
Post by: Rufus on January 28, 2020, 04:15:31 PM
Post by: shosta on January 28, 2020, 07:54:51 PM
(https://i.redd.it/162uhxke0jd41.jpg)
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 28, 2020, 09:28:25 PM
Post by: Tripon on January 28, 2020, 09:43:54 PM
:brain :brain :brain
Post by: EchoRin on January 28, 2020, 09:46:29 PM
Post by: Oblivion on January 29, 2020, 01:17:39 AM
I have no clue which thread this garbage belongs in
(https://i.redd.it/162uhxke0jd41.jpg)
i can't tell if this is racist, but since it's garrison, i'm gonna assume it is
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 29, 2020, 01:51:09 AM
Just seems like a eulogy, albeit an autistic eulogy which is to be expected from someone afflicted with libertarianism
Post by: Momo on January 29, 2020, 02:12:51 AM
looks like wank mom is about to drop some smooth brained video affair
Post by: Oblivion on January 29, 2020, 02:18:52 AM
(https://preview.redd.it/b4pl6x1qlfd41.png?width=814&auto=webp&s=97e3c20d9406a40b8a2a4c02e15254ac9b95e5e3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=11&v=hDG49XrMu84&feature=emb_title
Post by: Nintex on January 29, 2020, 07:43:50 AM
:o
Post by: benjipwns on January 29, 2020, 09:39:47 PM
Post by: Tripon on January 29, 2020, 09:55:24 PM
The fuckery. :lol
Post by: Rufus on January 29, 2020, 09:58:20 PM
https://twitter com/CogitoErgoTsun/status/1220222306762416130Excellent handle, too.
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on January 29, 2020, 10:03:50 PM
Post by: shosta on January 29, 2020, 10:07:50 PM
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As we get further away from his much-too-early death, I find myself missing Christopher more and more. Not so much his company, but his presence as a writer.This low-key burn :lol
Post by: Rufus on January 29, 2020, 10:12:36 PM
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This is why outrage has been redefined as a kind of stupidity. Esteemed writers can be celebrated for being loud, angry, and rude, as Hitchens was. But they are never called shrill. For shrillness connotes desperation, and desperation belongs to the lesser world—the world inhabited by ordinary people, who often argue not because they need to argue, but simply because they need.aw ye, say it
Post by: benjipwns on January 29, 2020, 11:03:51 PM
Post by: shosta on January 29, 2020, 11:11:46 PM
The original article is even better:I'm only halfway through but I just got to this bit about the Charlie Hebdo massacre:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/01/packer-hitchens/605365/
Haven't seen self mythologizing like this in a long time :lawd
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Theocratic Islam should be off-limits to satirists, the PEN writers argued, because French Muslims belonged to a “marginalized, embattled, and victimized” group.This is factually wrong... I distinctly remember the metacommentary from this time and the most common complaint that I can recall was that not all speech is of the same value. When defending dissent, there should actually be substance to the dissent. Charlie Hebdo was cranking out crude blasphemy, and it's not like Muslim bashing (in 2015!) was some kind of brave or original statement. When everyone was lining up to heap praise on them, it debased the long and difficult struggle for intellectual freedom. I mean, what ugly revisionism. He looks back and all he can see is cancel-culture.
Post by: shosta on January 29, 2020, 11:18:50 PM
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A friend of mine once heard from a New York publisher that his manuscript was unacceptable because it went against a “consensus” on the subject of race.Why does anti-thought-police screed always circle back to race science :-\
Post by: benjipwns on January 29, 2020, 11:20:14 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 29, 2020, 11:47:34 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 29, 2020, 11:50:07 PM
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Krystal Ball and Saagar Enjeti are co-hosts of Rising at The Hill TV, one of the fastest growing political shows in America. Theirs is the only book that fuses the populist right and populist left to explain the rise of the Trump and Sanders movements. The authors curate an essential collection of their biting commentary, stunning predictions, media critiques, and reveal their vision for a working class centered politics. No establishment media or political figure goes unscathed. This book reveals the white hot core of The Hill Rising's meteoric rise in the alternative media space.
We are living through chaotic, nerve-wracking, and occasionally terrifying times, but we hope you will find this book both hopeful and helpful. Nothing has made us more hopeful than our work together on Rising, watching what unfolds, laughing at the absurdities, and joining in our outrage at the often bipartisan rituals of manipulating our fellow citizens and viewing them with contempt. People are often confused by our politics and how much we end up in agreement. Ultimately, we have largely different policy prescriptions and beliefs. However, we do share a central diagnosis of the rot in this country, of how we got to this place, and a deep skepticism of power. It's amazing how far you can get when you start in the same place with a shared understanding of reality. It's a hell of a lot further than the shallow, fake civility politics that the forces of the status-quo say you must embrace-'Keep quiet and hold still while they rip you to shreds.' We take the opposite view. Speak up. Make people uncomfortable. Don't let the "experts" convince you that better isn't possible.
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"As we saw in 2016 and we're seeing in 2020, many in the mainstream media just don't get what's going on in this country. Krystal and Saagar, however, see the trends that are impacting Americans across this country, which is why their election coverage has been some of the best out there. They're some of the only people talking about the need to fundamentally rewrite the rules of the 21st century so they work for Americans again."
- Presidential Candidate Andrew Yang
"The striking thing about revolutionary moments is that almost nobody understands them as they're happening. Saagar Enjeti and Krystal Ball do. They know exactly what's going on in our country right now, and they can explain it with near-perfect clarity. This is a tremendous and important book."
- Fox News Host Tucker Carlson
"Krystal and Saagar weave a poignant and righteous web of reflection of the political climate we are in. They call out the role elites of both the Democratic and Republican parties play, including the mainstream media, in propping up a rigged system that ignores the needs of the working poor and middle class. This is one of the best political books I always knew I needed. Ultimately, The Populist's Guide to 2020 reminds us that no matter how the elites try to thwart the progress of the majority, our Rising is in our hands."
- National Co-Chair Bernie 2020, Former Ohio State Senator Nina Turner
"Rising brings a refreshingly bold and rare voice, shining a spotlight on how inextricably tied together the corporate media, foreign policy establishment and war machine are in Washington. While representing different ends of the political spectrum, Krystal and Saagar bring voice to so many Americans across party lines who have had enough of the stupid, wasteful wars the war machine is championing that have cost us so much in lives and taxpayer dollars. Ending the pay-to-play culture in Washington can only happen with leaders willing to speak the truth. Krystal and Saager are unafraid and doing just that."
- Presidential Candidate and Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard
"Krystal and Saagar are the indispensable new media stars. They're raw truth tellers beholden to nobody and nothing but their own conscience. They marry the populist left and populist right in a perfect balance of outsider wisdom. They're the future of politics and this book demonstrates that perfectly."
- Justice Democrats Co-Founder Kyle Kulinski
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Paperback: 244 pagesif I see this at the library I will skim through it to see if it's awful enough to read, that's the benji guarantee™
Post by: Momo on January 29, 2020, 11:55:41 PM
Post by: Momo on January 29, 2020, 11:58:08 PM
Why do people hate me :ltg
Post by: benjipwns on January 30, 2020, 12:06:11 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 30, 2020, 07:00:13 AM
Post by: VomKriege on January 30, 2020, 07:26:07 AM
The original article is even better:I'm only halfway through but I just got to this bit about the Charlie Hebdo massacre:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/01/packer-hitchens/605365/
Haven't seen self mythologizing like this in a long time :lawdQuoteTheocratic Islam should be off-limits to satirists, the PEN writers argued, because French Muslims belonged to a “marginalized, embattled, and victimized” group.This is factually wrong... I distinctly remember the metacommentary from this time and the most common complaint that I can recall was that not all speech is of the same value. When defending dissent, there should actually be substance to the dissent. Charlie Hebdo was cranking out crude blasphemy, and it's not like Muslim bashing (in 2015!) was some kind of brave or original statement. When everyone was lining up to heap praise on them, it debased the long and difficult struggle for intellectual freedom. I mean, what ugly revisionism. He looks back and all he can see is cancel-culture.
Meh.
Post by: Momo on January 30, 2020, 08:13:49 AM
Post by: benjipwns on January 30, 2020, 09:16:46 AM
Post by: bluemax on January 30, 2020, 09:39:55 PM
Post by: Tripon on January 30, 2020, 11:45:58 PM
Post by: Oblivion on January 31, 2020, 12:38:25 AM
@el Babua... This guy :fbm
Oh nooooooo :dead
https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/1222951755232808962
i don't think krystal ball is like that, but i don't trust that other guy for sure.
Post by: Mandark on January 31, 2020, 02:21:53 PM
Literally every Indian person in media is a fascist besides Ash sarkar
*submits an "Indian Brains Are Genetically Predisposed to Reactionary Politics" piece to Quillette, is rejected, tweaks it to "Indian Brains Are Genetically Predisposed to Reactionary Politics... Which is Good" and has it published*
Post by: benjipwns on January 31, 2020, 06:39:30 PM
https://twitter.com/BootlegGirl/status/1222788888214851589
https://twitter.com/BootlegGirl/status/1223046009707802624
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/BootlegGirl/status/1223289931470163968
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Post by: benjipwns on January 31, 2020, 07:34:57 PM
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The Conservatives Trying to Ditch Fake News
The Dispatch wants to sell serious, fact-based stories to the right. But do readers want them?
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Jonah goldberg, the conservative author and longtime fixture at National Review, used to have a go-to metaphor he’d deploy whenever he found himself defending one of his noisier compatriots in the right-wing media.
“I had this whole spiel about how the conservative movement is like a symphony,” he told me in a recent interview. “You need the fine woodwinds like Yuval Levin or Irving Kristol, but you also need that guy with the big gong who just smashes out the notes.” Sure, the talk-radio ranters were shouty and crass, he would reason, but they had their part to play.
These days, Goldberg has abandoned such rationalizations. “We’re holding a lot of symphonies where it’s basically all gong,” he said. “I didn’t think the gong would swamp the woodwinds quite the way it did.” Looking back, he admits even he was part of the problem: “I could be quite loud.”
Now, Goldberg said, he’s ready to “atone.” Last year, he left his perch at National Review and joined a handful of prominent conservative writers to launch The Dispatch, a new media venture with a mission that’s as straightforward as it is radical: producing serious, factually grounded journalism for a conservative audience. In interviews, editors told me they aim to fill a growing void on the right’s media landscape, which they described as oversaturated with hot takes and starved of reporting, obsessed with lib-ownership and uninterested in facts. On any given day, those who get their news from the loudest voices on the right—Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Breitbart News—are bombarded with partisan propaganda, conspiracy theories, and cynical rage-bait.
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When I asked Goldberg about The Bulwark—another news site run by GOP dissidents—he told me he appreciates their work, but finds the content “too overwhelmingly about Trump for my tastes.” Nor does he identify with a certain breed of conservative commentator who has tacked sharply to the left since Trump’s election. “I didn’t go full Jen Rubin or Max Boot,” Goldberg said, referring to two Washington Post columnists. “Nobody picked me up and paraded me around in a dunce cap as I renounced all my former positions.” (Asked to respond, Boot said, “I wish The Dispatch all the success in the world.” Rubin said, “That’s just sad. I thought The Dispatch was aiming higher.”)
While the new site hasn’t shied away from criticizing the president, its founders seem more focused on addressing the factors that enabled his rise—most notably, the corrosion of the conservative media.
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Both men praised their former colleagues, and acknowledged the difficulties that National Review—a nonprofit that relies on financial support from conservative donors—faces in navigating the Trump era. But the pressures they described reflect acute structural problems throughout the conservative-media complex. At highbrow publications, Goldberg said, once-respectable writers have abandoned their ideological convictions in favor of an incoherent Trumpism. “People are groping in the dark to find something to hold on to that reconciles their intellectual self-regard with their support for Donald Trump, and for just generalized meanness,” he told me. More populist outlets, meanwhile, have all but dropped the pretense of practicing factual journalism. “At places like Breitbart and further off into the swamplands,” Goldberg said, “you can literally just make stuff up as long as it makes people angry enough to click on it.” (A spokesperson for Breitbart responded by email: “lol.”)
French attributes the dearth of serious reporting on the right in part to the “towering presence” of Fox News. “You have one institution that is so incredibly potent as a validator of conservative personalities, and as a pathway to personal prosperity,” he told me. The success of Fox’s primetime model—grievance over substance, shouting over scoops—has shaped a generation of conservative media. And even those who disagree with the network’s approach hesitate to speak up for careerist reasons, French said: “People on the right are very wary of how they evaluate Fox.”
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At one point, the producer instructed everyone to clap so as to synchronize their audio, which prompted Goldberg to make a gonorrhea joke, and Isgur to let out a performative sigh. “That’s why we have a woman on the podcast,” she said. “To make sure we don’t talk about World War II–era venereal diseases.” (“I think it’s a little older than World War II,” Goldberg muttered.)
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Still, Mark Hemingway, a conservative journalist who writes for RealClearInvestigations, told me the outlet’s reach would likely be limited by its Trump-averse posture. For all the attention Never Trump voices receive from the mainstream media, he said, readers on the right simply aren’t interested: “There’s absolutely zero market for it.”
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In 2009, Tucker Carlson was famously booed during a speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference when he defended the journalistic values of The New York Times, and suggested that the right should be emulating the paper. Conservative journalists, he said, should “go out there and find what is happening … not just interpret things they hear in the mainstream media, but gather news themselves.”
The next year, Carlson launched The Daily Caller. The site would, he declared, have an old-fashioned journalistic mission: producing stories “that add to the sum total of known facts about politics and government.” But even as he hired promising young reporters, Carlson seemed aware of how market pressures could derail the project. His biggest fear, he told The New Republic at the time, was that “you could wind up with a page only about porn, executions, and Sarah Palin every day.”
Post by: Oblivion on January 31, 2020, 08:25:48 PM
why for animal movie have politic? :goty2
Post by: Tripon on January 31, 2020, 09:05:06 PM
Post by: Momo on February 01, 2020, 03:42:11 AM
Post by: Tripon on February 01, 2020, 02:19:23 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 01, 2020, 03:19:02 PM
Post by: EchoRin on February 01, 2020, 04:31:23 PM
https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/episodes/on-the-media-cancel-this
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As the coronavirus continues to spread, the World Health Organization has declared a state of emergency. This week, On the Media looks at how panic and misinformation are going viral, too. Plus, a controversial endorsement for Bernie Sanders puts the spotlight on Joe Rogan, and has renewed the debate over "cancel culture." And, the impeachment proceedings continue to move toward a conclusion.
Also includes our favorite transtuber, Contrapoints.
Post by: Tripon on February 01, 2020, 05:06:11 PM
Watch out for Big Vax. :doge
Post by: Tripon on February 01, 2020, 06:00:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMQiE2AmwWo
Two oldies but goodies about the black africans.
Post by: team filler on February 01, 2020, 07:50:28 PM
:-[ :pimp
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 01, 2020, 08:39:35 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ro3MWkv.jpg)
:-[ :pimp
:bow :bow2
Post by: Tripon on February 01, 2020, 09:34:00 PM
Charlie Kirk might be one of the dumbest of the wank dads. Not even a good concern troll.
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 02, 2020, 01:39:32 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPq0XguXsAARFFt?format=jpg&name=medium)
Post by: Momo on February 02, 2020, 10:00:11 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 02, 2020, 04:34:29 PM
Why didn't you fucks tell me Lauren Chen is hot af :maf
I didn't know you wanted a report on righty women
Post by: Oblivion on February 02, 2020, 10:32:19 PM
Love it when im right about three shit people.
:win
i see 4 in that tweet
Post by: team filler on February 02, 2020, 11:07:31 PM
:drool
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on February 02, 2020, 11:45:12 PM
e: on second thought, thats gentler than “age of stupidity” :larry
Post by: EchoRin on February 02, 2020, 11:59:35 PM
One of my favorite movies ever.
https://youtu.be/f_N2wyq7fCE
Post by: Momo on February 03, 2020, 12:03:42 AM
Post by: Momo on February 03, 2020, 01:54:24 AM
is this bitch a turtle scaley too :dead
Post by: BIONIC on February 03, 2020, 02:05:41 AM
https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1224178617866833921
:drool
https://twitter.com/partisangirl/status/1224110894679904256
Quality content
Post by: Momo on February 03, 2020, 02:07:42 AM
https://twitter.com/shoe0nhead/status/1224227102540673024 (https://twitter.com/shoe0nhead/status/1224227102540673024)
Post by: BIONIC on February 03, 2020, 02:50:56 AM
Post by: Momo on February 03, 2020, 03:05:42 AM
Post by: team filler on February 03, 2020, 03:14:03 AM
Post by: Momo on February 03, 2020, 05:54:19 AM
Post by: Tripon on February 03, 2020, 11:42:32 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZMIbo_DxJk
:rejoice
He goes on to answer a critique i've seen some people in here levy against him. Once again he crushes.
Wild this is how the thread starts and now it's just a dunk fest for the most part.
Post by: Momo on February 03, 2020, 12:47:17 PM
Post by: Momo on February 03, 2020, 12:48:12 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 03, 2020, 04:34:54 PM
Post by: Tripon on February 03, 2020, 05:46:35 PM
:era
Post by: Tripon on February 03, 2020, 06:24:58 PM
:doge
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on February 03, 2020, 07:13:29 PM
Where's forums poster curly when his fave Matt Stoller gets in a fight with a bore fave :mjcryman: https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/1224462917501882368
the take is something like: socialism v. capitalism isn’t the defining tension in “the American Experiment”* (and is something of a continental spook), populism = radical democracy v. monopoly is. socialism and capitalism are too loose of terms, should be yeeted, and also self-styled ‘socialists’ made strange bedfellows with elitist liberals during the cold war, which is why “a lot of socialists [now]” (read: one guy who reviewed matt’s book for the nation) like amazon. this one, uh...might have some holes in it.
*lmao
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 03, 2020, 07:17:08 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 03, 2020, 08:37:02 PM
(https://img.booru.org/lefty//images/7/e6c282ed7c9a56e49bfb22e0e4f268d827d91fdc.png)
following
(https://external-preview.redd.it/9UDv09C2LBVAkCLiX73_N3sf4Oygst_WcPMvdbtzzSY.jpg?auto=webp&s=a6a5ef9624bf5cf27418bc5c865d1aa03a2d4991)
Post by: Tripon on February 03, 2020, 10:39:56 PM
Post by: Momo on February 04, 2020, 12:08:09 AM
what the fuck is happening here
Post by: Momo on February 04, 2020, 12:09:16 AM
oh moviebob :dead
Post by: Oblivion on February 04, 2020, 01:17:13 AM
https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1224532731775741952
Post by: Momo on February 04, 2020, 06:31:50 AM
Post by: Brehvolution on February 04, 2020, 10:17:10 AM
shock and awe, i say:
https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1224532731775741952
rush is gonna burn in hell for eternity, sweetie.
Post by: VomKriege on February 04, 2020, 04:26:22 PM
(Around the 1 hour mark approx.)
Post by: Momo on February 04, 2020, 07:28:39 PM
Post by: VomKriege on February 04, 2020, 07:58:04 PM
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/controversial-podcaster-listened-in-on-therapist-wife-and-clients-lawsuit-alleges/article22158708/ (https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/controversial-podcaster-listened-in-on-therapist-wife-and-clients-lawsuit-alleges/article22158708/)
Post by: Madrun Badrun on February 04, 2020, 09:27:14 PM
Post by: Tripon on February 05, 2020, 12:36:39 AM
Post by: VomKriege on February 05, 2020, 06:11:31 AM
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(...)
By the hand of a man named Jim
Millions dying, millions crying
for the loss of their family
Moms missing, Babies gone, fathers loss
All for not, All for not
We have the news, this doesn't have to be
For just a few drops of a mineral can heal
Of the parasite you can be free
But no money in that says the evil man
So people keep dying at this dis-ease's hand
The Big Pharma are making money
At the bank they think its funny
How they can control men's health
While they live in much wealth
Money has been paid to pass evil laws
To protect that wealth from leaving their paws
(...)
:dead
For the full poem on the Health Beowulf :
https://g2churchnews.org/358-imagine-a-world-without-disease-a-poem-by-archbishop-mark-s-grenon-08-30-2016 (https://g2churchnews.org/358-imagine-a-world-without-disease-a-poem-by-archbishop-mark-s-grenon-08-30-2016)
If you want to see Jim Humble :
https://youtu.be/5O5UmQXyR4M
More info on his biography :
https://m.soundcloud.com/qanonanonymous/episode-77-drink-bleach-to-own-the-libs (https://m.soundcloud.com/qanonanonymous/episode-77-drink-bleach-to-own-the-libs)
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 05, 2020, 08:52:01 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 05, 2020, 02:11:04 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 05, 2020, 02:52:16 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on February 05, 2020, 03:07:56 PM
Post by: Oblivion on February 05, 2020, 04:39:13 PM
Post by: VomKriege on February 05, 2020, 07:41:25 PM
Post by: Tripon on February 05, 2020, 09:01:57 PM
David Hogg needs to read SETTLERS.
Post by: Tripon on February 05, 2020, 09:44:32 PM
:lol
Post by: benjipwns on February 05, 2020, 10:54:29 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 06, 2020, 12:22:54 AM
Post by: Tripon on February 06, 2020, 01:24:40 AM
Post by: BIONIC on February 06, 2020, 06:27:04 AM
Post by: nachobro on February 06, 2020, 08:31:47 AM
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 06, 2020, 08:56:56 AM
Strange to put Bernie in there with a list of billionaires and Papa John :lol
It's not strange when you got a big brain.
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 06, 2020, 02:50:49 PM
(https://preview.redd.it/uuct9zyl68f41.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=5ef6c33f57f545d7261d72c7600afdd23580d8d2)
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 06, 2020, 02:54:48 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on February 06, 2020, 03:09:48 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on February 06, 2020, 04:34:49 PM
:dead
Post by: shosta on February 06, 2020, 07:56:12 PM
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1225516181936799744
Post by: Madrun Badrun on February 06, 2020, 10:08:51 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQp2oZAWgAQBLFs?format=jpg&name=900x900)
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Post by: VomKriege on February 07, 2020, 07:21:21 AM
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/862740643482697728
He still have a promotion running at this very moment with supplier "mypatriotsupply" (Same that Alex Jones is pushing hard right now).
I'm not exactly surprised but it's telling that he's from the same cloth as Jim Bakker & co.
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 07, 2020, 07:49:08 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 07, 2020, 08:00:44 PM
:dead :dead :dead :dead
Post by: Tripon on February 07, 2020, 09:53:40 PM
All of the magic tricks.
Post by: Oblivion on February 07, 2020, 10:25:38 PM
This story is :delicious on every single level
every new detail is somehow better than the last
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on February 07, 2020, 10:32:55 PM
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The last year, which saw him retreat from public life after swiftly becoming one of the most famous authors in the world, has been an “absolute hell,” said Mikhaila, also a well known speaker on diet, who advocates eating only beef.is literally a piece of kent brockman dialogue :dead
Post by: Tripon on February 07, 2020, 11:04:36 PM
Just realized this guys addicted to PKs and eating a zero fiber diet. Probably hasn't taken a shit in 6 months :neogafhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1WNrnsfb44
Post by: Oblivion on February 07, 2020, 11:20:27 PM
Just realized this guys addicted to PKs and eating a zero fiber diet. Probably hasn't taken a shit in 6 months :neogaf
i still maintain that jorp sticks to the all beef diet because he feels like it has the added benefit of socking it to the environmentalists/animal rights activists/libs
Post by: Madrun Badrun on February 07, 2020, 11:23:02 PM
CAMH is like 2 blocks from the dept. of psychology too.
Post by: benjipwns on February 07, 2020, 11:31:10 PM
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She and her husband took him to Moscow last month, where he was diagnosed with pneumonia and put into an induced coma for eight days. She said his withdrawal was “horrific,” worse than anything she had ever heard about. She said Russian doctors are not influenced by pharmaceutical companies to treat the side-effects of one drug with more drugs, and that they “have the guts to medically detox someone from benzodiazepines.”Just imagine how poorly this would have gone if he had trusted the gutless doctors in North America.
Jordan Peterson has only just come out of an intensive care unit, Mikhaila said. He has neurological damage, and a long way to go to full recovery. He is taking anti-seizure medication and cannot type or walk unaided
Post by: team filler on February 07, 2020, 11:32:51 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 07, 2020, 11:36:33 PM
obligatory no-fun post about how schadenfreude is bad but this:NO. He bailed out of the capitalist system trained doctors because of their poor suggestions based on capitalist motives to head to a country probably staffed full of socialist trained doctors still who put him into an induced coma to treat pneumonia with a side of benzo addiction.
Post by: Oblivion on February 08, 2020, 01:51:12 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 08, 2020, 02:20:45 AM
Post by: Oblivion on February 08, 2020, 02:41:58 AM
This is worse than anything I’ve ever heard about.
yet another example of the lobster king's exceptionalism :bow
Post by: shosta on February 08, 2020, 04:29:30 AM
https://twitter.com/shujaxhaider/status/1226006644225650689
Post by: Oblivion on February 08, 2020, 04:52:09 AM
might get some mockery, but there was a point where i used to kinda like matthews
Post by: VomKriege on February 08, 2020, 05:12:00 AM
Post by: Tripon on February 08, 2020, 10:18:17 AM
Is the Carnivore Diet Clearing Up Joe Rogan's Vitiligo? :doge
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 08, 2020, 10:47:45 AM
This part stood out to meQuotehis sense of humour has returned.
as he's always been the most serious, completely lacking in any sense of humor guy every time I've ever heard him in any format.
It does make some sense why he was getting progressively more visibly miserable every time he'd do a new Rogan or youtube video or whatever. Jorp couldn't be more stereotypical of like....a movie version of a textbook psychologist stereotype and that's hilarious. The specifics aren't so funny, but the general story of the psychologist who made it big selling fluffy self help bullshit about getting your shit together in fact did not have his own shit together and got himself put into a medically induced coma in Russia for something he could have done in his own city is :lol
He should change his name to Dr Frasier Lame :smug
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 08, 2020, 03:30:32 PM
Post by: team filler on February 08, 2020, 03:53:54 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 08, 2020, 04:22:39 PM
(https://preview.redd.it/8w2wngwvplf41.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=3fdab017ae49574b0884d3c1c9a39d3899b10236)
Post by: team filler on February 08, 2020, 05:13:08 PM
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on February 08, 2020, 05:23:12 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 08, 2020, 11:41:10 PM
Post by: Momo on February 09, 2020, 03:01:35 AM
What if he went to Russia as part of his Soviet fetish like how he decorated his house?in today's climate, using drug addiction as an excuse to go on a Russian art tour seems like a legitimate endeavour.
Post by: VomKriege on February 09, 2020, 03:16:13 AM
What if he went to Russia as part of his Soviet fetish like how he decorated his house?
:curious
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on February 09, 2020, 07:33:34 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 09, 2020, 08:16:38 AM
Post by: VomKriege on February 09, 2020, 08:51:04 AM
:neogaf
Post by: team filler on February 09, 2020, 01:46:16 PM
Post by: Tripon on February 09, 2020, 03:31:49 PM
:stop
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 09, 2020, 03:35:19 PM
TRUMPIAN LIARS FROM BERNARD THE FEEBLE
https://twitter.com/KaivanShroff/status/1226532408750673922
Post by: Madrun Badrun on February 09, 2020, 07:02:22 PM
Post by: shosta on February 09, 2020, 11:48:44 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://youtu.be/zqO8Yh5Ngqg
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Post by: Momo on February 10, 2020, 12:19:30 AM
:brain
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 10, 2020, 02:20:53 AM
Post by: Momo on February 10, 2020, 02:25:06 AM
He was apologizing for the movie Dark Phoenix.He'd have to walk through a shame parade the length of the great wall
Post by: Momo on February 10, 2020, 02:48:33 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/BO5eNzO.png)
:lol
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 10, 2020, 11:04:28 AM
Post by: VomKriege on February 10, 2020, 11:35:27 AM
https://twitter.com/toddhgreen/status/1226557020582678528spoiler (click to show/hide)https://youtu.be/zqO8Yh5Ngqg[close]
"MY LIFE IS OVER BECAUSE OF THE LEFTISTS FINAL SOLUTION SHADOW BANS."
:six:
6 months later *endorsed as a "legitimate" candidate*
Post by: team filler on February 10, 2020, 11:42:37 AM
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"I have big tits and an Ashkenazi IQ":drool
Post by: Momo on February 10, 2020, 12:31:28 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 10, 2020, 05:16:28 PM
https://twitter.com/MillerStream/status/1226683232378380289
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 10, 2020, 05:26:14 PM
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1226735560628133888
https://twitter.com/RacismDog/status/1226931864784506886
Post by: Momo on February 11, 2020, 12:21:55 AM
Post by: EchoRin on February 11, 2020, 12:52:19 AM
D A M A G E D
:joker
spoiler (click to show/hide)
This is me showing about as much subtlety as Jared Leto shows in most roles
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Post by: EchoRin on February 11, 2020, 05:03:07 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/1fZyt1V/IMG-20200211-155956.jpg)
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 11, 2020, 05:58:25 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 12, 2020, 03:35:36 AM
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My name is Corey Wayne, and I am a Life and Peak Performance Coach. I help men and women to achieve their dreams, discover their purpose, improve their relationships, start a business, improve personal health & fitness, maximize time management, become a superstar in sales, set & achieve their most audacious goals, become a leader, be better team builders, break thru their deepest fears and limiting beliefs, overcome difficult life challenges, lose weight, regain balance in all areas of their lives (including personal finances and wealth building), etc.YOU CAN'T CALL YOURSELF COACH :rage
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I will coach anyone who has a sincere desire to break thru their own fears and limiting beliefs (known or unknown) to make their greatest dreams, goals & outcomes a reality.
I came from very humble beginnings. When I finished high school I was trying to decide what I wanted to do with my life. I had always been interested in buying, fixing, and reselling single family homes for a profit. I fell in love with the TV show “This Old House.” I decided to major in Construction Management to learn how to build before starting my own business someday.
However, after 5 years of college I still had 2 years of course work left to complete in order to get my degree. One class I had to pass in order to graduate was Calculus. I had dropped this class three times in order to keep from getting a failing grade. I had done the same with several other difficult classes. It was starting to look hopeless. I was full of fear that I would never graduate and get my degree.
My whole future was in doubt. I was terrified that if I did not get a degree I could not get a job in construction management, would not be able to have my own business someday, and would be poor, broke, and lonely the rest of my life.
Just when it looked like my life was over and I would have to spend my life struggling and working jobs I hated, I met a Life & Peak Performance coach that completely changed my life forever.
He was able to see things I was doing to sabotage myself. He also taught me strategies I could use to radically change the way I looked at things and to get me through the difficult and challenging times. He had been where I was once in his own life and now was a multi-millionaire, a leader, an entrepreneur, happily married, and had all of the material things that everyone dreams about, but few actually have. He taught me the secrets of success that only the worlds top athletes, entrepreneurs, investors, doctors, and experts knew about achieving success and living the life of your dreams.
Two years after he started coaching me, I graduated college with the degree I wanted (I got an A in Calculus!). I got my dream job working for Centex Rooney, one of the worlds largest commercial General Contractor’s as a project Engineer on the $150 million dollar Coronado Springs Resort at Walt Disney World. I was also formulating my plan to start my own company buying, fixing, and reselling single family homes for a profit.
After working for other people for five years learning how to build, I decided I was ready to make my move. I quit my job at Centex Rooney, borrowed $50,000 on my credit cards, and purchased two foreclosure homes in Orlando, FL.
Within two years I had taken on two business partners and we were all making multiple six figure incomes. I was only making $37,000 per year when I left Centex Rooney! We bought and sold 10-12 properties per month. Some we kept and did ourselves and others we flipped to other investors. I bought my first exotic sports car, a red Lotus Espirit V-8 twin turbo 350 hp work of art. I was living in a beautiful foreclosure I purchased for $118,000 that was worth $455,000 after renovations were complete. I bought my first Rolex and was traveling the world staying in five star resorts and living the high life.
I only did about 10-12 hours of real work per week. I was making more money than I could spend, but was bored out of my mind. I just was not fulfilled. By 29 I had a successful business, big house, fancy cars, nice clothes, tons of money, and I was bored. I thought… is this all there is? I had an urge to give back and decided to start a new division of our company doing general real estate and mortgages. My goal was not just to make more money, but to teach people with a burning desire to succeed how to make multiple six figure incomes selling real estate and originating mortgages. One of my partners started a title company to handle the closings. So we took our little company of 4 people in 1999 and built it into 8 companies with 40 employees grossing $6 million dollars per year by 2004. We also purchased a distressed $2.5 million dollar office building for our operations which we later sold for a nice profit.
By the end of 2005 I wanted to teach and coach full time. I left our company and used the money I had made from it to start my present company “The Corey Wayne Companies.” In February 2006 I got my first book published “How To Be A 3% Man” which is a dating and relationship book for men. I spend the majority of my time coaching people from all over the world how to have phenomenal success, joy, and balance in all areas of their lives; their finances, relationships, health, businesses, etc.
Having lots of money and material things is nice and I am grateful for all I have, but for me, teaching, coaching, and helping others be their best selves and achieve their dreams fulfills me like nothing else I have ever done.
I thought he was like a former high school football coach or something who got into this. Not a failed construction management major.
Post by: VomKriege on February 12, 2020, 04:52:16 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 12, 2020, 10:17:08 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 12, 2020, 02:57:25 PM
(https://preview.redd.it/kh0kr7xb9gg41.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=6d800fdc4f8f12e3771f607bb6990a10d11e3945)
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 12, 2020, 02:57:55 PM
Post by: Tripon on February 12, 2020, 03:05:57 PM
Post by: VomKriege on February 12, 2020, 04:32:26 PM
(https://preview.redd.it/kh0kr7xb9gg41.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=6d800fdc4f8f12e3771f607bb6990a10d11e3945)
Lead by example and go fuck a 350 pound legless, bitter, abusive woman then ?
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 12, 2020, 04:38:49 PM
Post by: team filler on February 12, 2020, 05:04:40 PM
Machiavelli avatar has to be Greek Statue Guy levs:pacspit
Post by: Tripon on February 12, 2020, 10:08:14 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 12, 2020, 10:15:00 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 13, 2020, 08:56:10 AM
Post by: Brehvolution on February 13, 2020, 09:14:05 AM
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 13, 2020, 09:22:05 AM
Post by: team filler on February 13, 2020, 12:08:45 PM
Which gay slur will Trump call Pete:fun boi :dead
cigarillo
Homo
Sissy
Fairy
Post by: EchoRin on February 13, 2020, 12:13:08 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 13, 2020, 12:30:50 PM
fruit booty
Post by: team filler on February 13, 2020, 12:41:07 PM
Post by: bork on February 13, 2020, 01:32:08 PM
Trump would take one look at them and go “ugh” and move on and then Pete and his husband would start high-fiving each other and laughing and yelling “hell yeah nicca, bigotry worked out for once, we got the whole debate stage to ourselves!”
Joe, we received a report on this post from concerned member filler. This is a very serious allegation. Or something.
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Post by: Oblivion on February 13, 2020, 04:00:47 PM
Post by: Oblivion on February 13, 2020, 04:01:32 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/2mtMoHz.png)
Post by: Brehvolution on February 13, 2020, 04:04:22 PM
Post by: Nintex on February 13, 2020, 05:04:29 PM
Post by: Oblivion on February 13, 2020, 05:32:17 PM
But I thought the meat diet cured him of his mystery disease
right? i thought all his problems were solved thanks to the magic of meat
Post by: nachobro on February 13, 2020, 05:34:39 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 13, 2020, 08:04:26 PM
https://twitter.com/tparti/status/1227967859751608321
Post by: BisMarckie on February 13, 2020, 08:07:54 PM
Post by: team filler on February 14, 2020, 12:56:00 AM
Which gay slur will Trump call Pete:throat it deep pete! :lol
cigarillo
Homo
Sissy
Fairy
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on February 14, 2020, 06:49:56 PM
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I’ve never claimed to be anything else. I like aesthetics and I like psychology; politics is just a channel of expression. I’m way more interested in the prepolitical than the political.
nothing scandalous or anything we didnt know already, just felt weird stumbling on. millenial tings, amiright?
Post by: shosta on February 14, 2020, 06:56:28 PM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on February 14, 2020, 07:08:05 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 14, 2020, 07:18:50 PM
dasha also used to post on the reg but after shecheated on adamhad some life hiccups she stopped posting
She's been posting a bit more lately, less active than Anna.
https://www.reddit.com/user/perfectangelicgirl/
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 14, 2020, 07:19:05 PM
red scare + fans seem to me like the plastics table in the left podcast cafeteria. how much of this crystal ball holds water and how much is it jake’s latent sexism?(https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/jbhmmm.png)
Incel much?
Post by: benjipwns on February 14, 2020, 11:52:16 PM
https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1228482160648167425
Post by: Tripon on February 15, 2020, 12:13:05 AM
:mindblown
Post by: shosta on February 15, 2020, 12:27:28 AM
when your centrist candidate's policies are so bad for minorities the fucking nazis pile on :rofl :rofl :rofl
first as tragedy...
Post by: Oblivion on February 15, 2020, 01:13:47 AM
just found out anna khachiyan is a regular normal-one-haver (https://www.reddit.com/user/tsoiboy69) on her own subreddit.QuoteI’ve never claimed to be anything else. I like aesthetics and I like psychology; politics is just a channel of expression. I’m way more interested in the prepolitical than the political.
nothing scandalous or anything we didnt know already, just felt weird stumbling on. millenial tings, amiright?
she's such a contrarian nimrod
Post by: Oblivion on February 15, 2020, 01:14:58 AM
https://twitter.com/TheLetterhack/status/1228469538964025344
:mindblown
this was awfully cringe when people got tattoos of jorpy and sam harris. it's still awfully cringe now as well
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 15, 2020, 02:59:56 AM
https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer/status/1227067007067017217
when your centrist candidate's policies are so bad for minorities the fucking nazis pile on :rofl :rofl :rofl
first as tragedy...
heil blühenberg
Post by: team filler on February 15, 2020, 04:17:03 AM
Post by: team filler on February 15, 2020, 04:21:14 AM
:clap
Post by: Nintex on February 15, 2020, 08:50:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEwNnR5BgWo
Should I be worried
Post by: Mandark on February 15, 2020, 10:46:48 AM
I gave up on all Brooklyn based podcasting. I can say that I'm now two months free, and it's done me wonders.
I don't think I listen to any Brooklyn podcasts, but I'm not sure which borough Zach Lowe lives in.
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 15, 2020, 02:36:04 PM
Post by: Momo on February 15, 2020, 05:58:53 PM
momo's favI'm letting him slide for now, he posts about 300 shit takes a day so I get tired lol
https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1228482160648167425
Post by: Madrun Badrun on February 15, 2020, 10:19:23 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on February 15, 2020, 11:38:28 PM
Post by: shosta on February 16, 2020, 02:44:28 AM
Hey occam, come get your boy!
Post by: shosta on February 16, 2020, 02:45:10 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 16, 2020, 02:50:11 AM
https://twitter.com/RichardDawkins/status/1228943686953664512
Hey occam, come get your boy!
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/8ae91686001f5bdf1c010fa85ebabaa1/tumblr_pn7pvvsy5b1takfg0o4_1280.jpg)
Post by: Mandark on February 16, 2020, 02:50:33 AM
we could use eugenics to create a much more profitable human which yields twice as much meat, with lots of marbling
Post by: team filler on February 16, 2020, 02:52:53 AM
Post by: HardcoreRetro on February 16, 2020, 06:57:38 AM
Post by: Nintex on February 16, 2020, 08:11:18 AM
It's possible that social media might have killed the public intellectual for the rest of human historySocial media are the new Greek Symposiums.
Stefan Molyneux and Ben Shapiro are the Socrates and Hippocrates of our times :snob
Post by: team filler on February 16, 2020, 04:40:22 PM
:pimp
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 17, 2020, 04:04:22 PM
(https://i.redd.it/2cljngzj4ih41.jpg)
Post by: Oblivion on February 17, 2020, 09:46:41 PM
Post by: team filler on February 18, 2020, 12:30:01 AM
:crowdlaff
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 18, 2020, 02:45:08 AM
https://twitter.com/iucipur/status/1229539781677342720
:crowdlaff
:gladbron
something for everyone but her to unite on the subject of
Post by: team filler on February 18, 2020, 03:08:13 AM
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 18, 2020, 09:02:42 AM
Post by: Tripon on February 18, 2020, 11:52:59 AM
Post by: BIONIC on February 18, 2020, 03:10:49 PM
https://twitter.com/JohnStossel/status/1229803007258198016 :delicious
https://youtu.be/zrX9Ca7LSyQ
Post by: Oblivion on February 18, 2020, 05:10:11 PM
Post by: team filler on February 18, 2020, 06:07:07 PM
Post by: Oblivion on February 18, 2020, 10:56:40 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 18, 2020, 11:01:50 PM
:holeup
https://twitter.com/TheEconomist/status/1229969365543550976
The Economist is letting Nintex write articles?
Post by: benjipwns on February 18, 2020, 11:05:26 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 18, 2020, 11:06:44 PM
Post by: Tripon on February 18, 2020, 11:09:32 PM
Post by: team filler on February 18, 2020, 11:13:20 PM
Post by: Momo on February 19, 2020, 12:14:36 AM
https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1229938852246302721(https://i.imgur.com/0I2TQGI.png)
Post by: benjipwns on February 19, 2020, 12:50:08 AM
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For yapuuox, Today is his birthday and he wanted me to draw the Sonic Boom version of Sonic punching manchild reviewer, moviebob. Personally I don’t much against Bob. Like I said, he’s just an egotiscital manchild who desperately latches on to the 80s and 90s. But yapuuo really hates the dude. So I hope you like man(https://66.media.tumblr.com/0c2e45f71fc05d8a1bd0f448db6a7785/tumblr_nsz5fnY3Wf1us5a3oo1_1280.jpg)
Post by: BIONIC on February 19, 2020, 01:02:13 AM
https://twitter.com/JohnStossel/status/1229803007258198016 :delicious
https://youtu.be/zrX9Ca7LSyQ
filler, I need an emergency like on this post. TYIA.
Post by: Momo on February 19, 2020, 01:15:05 AM
https://zackburgsart.tumblr.com/post/126510582862/for-yapuuox-today-is-his-birthday-and-he-wanted (https://zackburgsart.tumblr.com/post/126510582862/for-yapuuox-today-is-his-birthday-and-he-wanted)why is sonic doing a slavic squat? :gopnikQuoteFor yapuuox, Today is his birthday and he wanted me to draw the Sonic Boom version of Sonic punching manchild reviewer, moviebob. Personally I don’t much against Bob. Like I said, he’s just an egotiscital manchild who desperately latches on to the 80s and 90s. But yapuuo really hates the dude. So I hope you like man(https://66.media.tumblr.com/0c2e45f71fc05d8a1bd0f448db6a7785/tumblr_nsz5fnY3Wf1us5a3oo1_1280.jpg)
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 19, 2020, 04:34:42 PM
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Liberty
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Founded as Young Jeffersonians on February 11, 2015, Liberty Hangout is a libertarian media outlet which strives to bring readers relevant insight into current events, as well as promote Austrian economics and property rights. We believe in self-rule, self-determination, and non-aggression. We believe taxation is theft, and that the services the state provides can and should be privatized. We believe in decentralization down to the individual level, and that the government which is closest to home is easiest to control.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/624055464007852033/AhJMILn-_400x400.png)
https://twitter.com/LibertyHangout/status/1225567746269884417
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 19, 2020, 04:45:29 PM
I wanted to see how she spun it
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https://twitter.com/KaitMarieox/status/1229911342045433857
https://twitter.com/KaitMarieox/status/1229901019309658112
https://twitter.com/KaitMarieox/status/1230191676804734977
https://twitter.com/KaitMarieox/status/1229509706252738561
https://twitter.com/KaitMarieox/status/1229901019309658112
https://twitter.com/KaitMarieox/status/1230191676804734977
https://twitter.com/KaitMarieox/status/1229509706252738561
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smh at you leftists choosing to be IGNORANT OF EVERYTHING
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 19, 2020, 05:38:12 PM
:hmmQuoteLibertyQuoteFounded as Young Jeffersonians on February 11, 2015, Liberty Hangout is a libertarian media outlet which strives to bring readers relevant insight into current events, as well as promote Austrian economics and property rights. We believe in self-rule, self-determination, and non-aggression. We believe taxation is theft, and that the services the state provides can and should be privatized. We believe in decentralization down to the individual level, and that the government which is closest to home is easiest to control.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/624055464007852033/AhJMILn-_400x400.png)
https://twitter.com/LibertyHangout/status/1225567746269884417
Does the Holy Trinity count as decentralization?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on February 19, 2020, 07:01:31 PM
Post by: Momo on February 20, 2020, 02:27:58 AM
Post by: BisMarckie on February 20, 2020, 10:23:42 AM
(https://preview.redd.it/xknswy70gwh41.png?width=590&auto=webp&s=5d319d73f305698c6f2a76e8403f968855a53017)
Is Zizek the modern day Diogenes? :gopnik
Post by: Brehvolution on February 20, 2020, 01:43:42 PM
:hmmQuoteLibertyQuoteFounded as Young Jeffersonians on February 11, 2015, Liberty Hangout is a libertarian media outlet which strives to bring readers relevant insight into current events, as well as promote Austrian economics and property rights. We believe in self-rule, self-determination, and non-aggression. We believe taxation is theft, and that the services the state provides can and should be privatized. We believe in decentralization down to the individual level, and that the government which is closest to home is easiest to control.
A way of life so awesome yet it has never happened in the history of mankind. :neogaf
It's not hard to wonder why.
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on February 20, 2020, 01:57:56 PM
trying to bridge the gap between fedora atheism and redneck religiosityits like it shows you this but then jukes at the last two paragraphs into a mealy mouthed defense of ethically informed politics. like yeah motherfucker, no one thinks otherwise
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pantheist takes on spinoza make me :rage so hard
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Post by: OnlyRegret on February 20, 2020, 03:43:06 PM
https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1230539581298180096
Post by: bluemax on February 20, 2020, 09:58:31 PM
Post by: Mandark on February 20, 2020, 10:29:54 PM
Post by: Tripon on February 21, 2020, 12:25:57 AM
This guy is bad at this.
----
https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1230696839491485696
Bob Chipman is also bad at this.
Post by: Momo on February 21, 2020, 01:21:17 AM
Post by: Momo on February 21, 2020, 01:25:59 AM
Ninja is abusing people via stream :dead
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Post by: Tripon on February 21, 2020, 01:39:29 AM
Post by: VomKriege on February 21, 2020, 05:50:29 AM
Roger Stone had to make a deposition in the case filed against him by Jerome Corsi (far right pundit who jumped hard on the QAnon wagon) for maligning his character (on Infowars IIRC). Stone is questioned by Corsi's lawyer, Larry Klayman. Klayman founded activist conservative group Judicial Watch but left / was ousted years ago. As it turns out, Stone and Klayman go quite a while back, they fucking hate each other and the deposition is a petty back and forth of insults and old feuds.
L.Klayman : Did you write down "Larry Klayman is an asshole." ?
R.Stone : Truth is an absolute defense, isn't it ?
Choice bits and context provided by the good folks of Knowledge Fight :
https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9rbm93bGVkZ2VmaWdodC5saWJzeW4uY29tL3Jzcw&episode=YmUxMzM3NDAtYTFjNi00YTY2LThjZTAtNzg4ZDc5ZmFjMDVh (https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9rbm93bGVkZ2VmaWdodC5saWJzeW4uY29tL3Jzcw&episode=YmUxMzM3NDAtYTFjNi00YTY2LThjZTAtNzg4ZDc5ZmFjMDVh)
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 21, 2020, 06:10:56 AM
Post by: VomKriege on February 21, 2020, 06:16:28 AM
Knowledge fight tho :donot
I like them :yeshrug
Maybe you can get it somewhere or watch the whole 6 hours deposition if you prefer.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 21, 2020, 07:39:51 AM
Post by: benjipwns on February 21, 2020, 11:25:26 AM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1230649948192018432
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1230730798426230786
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https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1230350575335858178
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Post by: Tripon on February 22, 2020, 12:07:39 AM
Rubin interviewed the German Ambassador and the acting DNI chief. :doge
Post by: team filler on February 22, 2020, 04:15:16 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 22, 2020, 10:40:34 PM
Post by: Tripon on February 22, 2020, 10:46:40 PM
https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1231368127910481920
https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1231385978541084672
https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1231402763109781511
Post by: Tripon on February 22, 2020, 10:48:03 PM
Post by: Tripon on February 22, 2020, 11:34:32 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 23, 2020, 02:10:47 AM
https://twitter.com/HowardA_Esq/status/1231246427403231233
Post by: team filler on February 23, 2020, 02:11:45 AM
:bow :bow :bow :bow2 :bow2 :bow2 :tocry
Post by: team filler on February 23, 2020, 02:57:21 AM
:kermit
Post by: VomKriege on February 23, 2020, 06:42:40 AM
https://twitter.com/NicoleNajafi/status/1231248923706175488
To be fair she's roasting all of them.
Post by: nachobro on February 23, 2020, 10:34:23 AM
https://twitter.com/HowardA_Esq/status/1231246427403231233
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Author of Goodnight Loon: Poems & Parodies to Survive Trump:nope
Post by: Nintex on February 23, 2020, 01:53:56 PM
https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1231082482163908608Grenell has to do all the shows obviously.
Rubin interviewed the German Ambassador and the acting DNI chief. :doge
Common Sense with Rudy, The Verdict with Ted Cruz, The Angry Joe Show and The Joe Rogan Podcast are next.
He's the ambassador of Germany, surely he knows if Hitler tweaked on DMT.
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 23, 2020, 08:04:08 PM
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/paw-patrol-encourages-kids-to-embrace-capitalism-1.5455625
https://twitter.com/AndrewScheer/status/1231643256099950593
Post by: Tripon on February 24, 2020, 03:15:10 AM
https://youtu.be/GjDnV12o0-g
https://youtu.be/DsIEPqoTOb8
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on February 24, 2020, 03:24:43 AM
Post by: Momo on February 24, 2020, 03:30:22 AM
Post by: Momo on February 24, 2020, 03:52:07 AM
People in a fantasy talking about reality :dead
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 24, 2020, 11:04:58 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 24, 2020, 03:42:06 PM
poor weinerstein :'(
https://twitter.com/screaminghuman_/status/1232014532505165832
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 24, 2020, 04:01:07 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 24, 2020, 04:07:40 PM
(https://preview.redd.it/cbgbr1l95ri41.png?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=4b41d15eb6e0f49f40f5ef47f2d2ca2569ac1fdf)
Post by: VomKriege on February 24, 2020, 04:23:24 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 24, 2020, 04:26:43 PM
Post by: VomKriege on February 24, 2020, 04:31:12 PM
BARNACLE SANDBLAST !
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 24, 2020, 04:33:16 PM
Her Twitter feed is chock full of hot takes like that.
BARNACLE SANDBLAST !
https://mobile.twitter.com/ASFleischman/status/1205672975296614400
https://mobile.twitter.com/ASFleischman/status/1205677043192606720
Post by: Oblivion on February 24, 2020, 04:59:11 PM
Post by: VomKriege on February 24, 2020, 08:53:02 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xsh0fheNpts&t=336s
I understand what Seder is saying and I don't disagree that some of the more colourful, weird turns of the statement by J.Peterson's daughter shouldn't be taken at face value but it's really too unflattering a narrative to be a complete lie, I feel.
Post by: Oblivion on February 24, 2020, 09:06:41 PM
Post by: Tripon on February 24, 2020, 09:42:37 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 24, 2020, 11:51:47 PM
https://twitter.com/TPUSA/status/1228053658979299328
Post by: Oblivion on February 25, 2020, 03:48:57 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 25, 2020, 08:50:44 AM
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 25, 2020, 09:10:40 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 25, 2020, 02:39:49 PM
Post by: Oblivion on February 25, 2020, 04:34:38 PM
Post by: Oblivion on February 25, 2020, 04:50:05 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 25, 2020, 07:46:43 PM
Post by: Momo on February 25, 2020, 11:59:55 PM
https://twitter.com/Baer_Bill/status/1232132823030620167 Tim Pool is bad at this.Nah he's fine. He's talking about border control not dealing with the disease being in the country already
Post by: BIONIC on February 26, 2020, 01:12:52 AM
https://twitter.com/akoz33/status/1232052025514496002
Be illiterate to own the comms :brain
Post by: Crash Dummy on February 26, 2020, 02:45:03 AM
and straussian neocons too as a bonus!https://twitter.com/akoz33/status/1232052025514496002
Be illiterate to own the comms :brain
Post by: Oblivion on February 26, 2020, 04:13:30 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 26, 2020, 08:11:31 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 26, 2020, 08:56:31 PM
https://twitter.com/AliceAvizandum/status/1232440200694915072
https://twitter.com/AliceAvizandum/status/1232442618283360256
Post by: Tripon on February 26, 2020, 09:11:51 PM
Post by: naff on February 27, 2020, 02:26:26 PM
https://twitter.com/ArielleScarcell/status/1231426047868010498
getting on that right wing grift. get it goorl.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/02/24/feminist-lesbian-quits-lgbt-to-be-conservative-free-speech-advocate/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Get on timcast, sidle up to dave rubin, angle for a spot on tuckers show, complain about the woke as much as possible, position yourself and your position as rational 'cause everyone else b crazy, "they" keep oppressing my position and yelling me down, yet noone is arguing with her in her comments, uses lack of opposition now she's a grifter and no1curr about this dumb bih to call the woke left weak lol. it's all by the book so far.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 27, 2020, 02:29:46 PM
I could double parlay that shit too being a native of the British isles and all :stahp :stahp
Post by: Oblivion on February 27, 2020, 04:19:49 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 27, 2020, 06:23:11 PM
Post by: Momo on February 28, 2020, 12:02:52 AM
https://twitter.com/Aesophh/status/1232741751615520771Maybe we're all in a shared dream :dead
Post by: Momo on February 28, 2020, 12:08:39 AM
Bob chipman seems to think Fear Effect wouldnt be ripped to shreds today for exposed ankles :lol
THESE TWO LADIES PUT THE ASS IN ASSASSIN
Post by: Tripon on February 28, 2020, 01:27:40 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 28, 2020, 03:04:28 PM
(https://i.redd.it/dnxzo8rronj41.png)
Post by: naff on February 28, 2020, 03:47:17 PM
Post by: team filler on February 28, 2020, 04:17:34 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 28, 2020, 07:07:46 PM
https://twitter.com/GandalftheWhi19/status/1233132964596342785
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 28, 2020, 07:15:50 PM
https://twitter.com/RustyShackleman/status/1233434674405330946
Post by: Tripon on February 29, 2020, 12:19:50 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 29, 2020, 01:08:34 AM
I’ll continue to get my prepper shit from Alex Jones thank you very much :rash
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 29, 2020, 02:28:39 AM
Post by: team filler on February 29, 2020, 02:33:43 AM
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 29, 2020, 09:45:25 AM
https://twitter.com/VicBergerIV/status/1233519098677600257
Sell tubs of low quality food to own the libs.
Post by: Tripon on February 29, 2020, 11:37:51 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 29, 2020, 11:55:06 AM
Post by: curly on February 29, 2020, 02:40:05 PM
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IOWA CITY — The people in the crowd were angry, and “Chapo Trap House” wanted them to stay that way. The five hosts of the popular socialist podcast wanted everyone to know they had all been lied to. About everything.
The media they consumed was fake news aimed to distract them from the only war worth fighting: the class war. Politesse, civility, even pleasure — those were tools of the neoliberal oppressor. The right answer is rage.
“That joy,” the Chapo co-host Will Menaker said to the crowd gathered in Iowa City on the eve of the Iowa caucus. “That’s good but it’s not as good a motivator when you’re really going to war as spite.”
“Let the hate feed you,” the co-host Amber A’Lee Frost added as the audience roared.
And it does. Especially toward other Democrats.
Supporters of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. are “gelatinous 100-year-olds.”
Former Mayor Pete Buttigieg is “a bloodless asexual.”
“The gayest thing about him is he descends from an ethnic group that’s like a little toy dog,” Ms. A’Lee Frost said.
When Senator Elizabeth Warren’s name came up, the crowd made the sound of a snake hissing. She had accused Senator Bernie Sanders of saying that a woman could not beat President Trump, and so she is a snake.
“Yes, my sssssoldiers,” Mr. Menaker said.
Former Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg’s run appalls them. “Beat him so badly that this midget gremlin won’t even have a shot even with a trillion dollars,” Mr. Menaker said.
“Kill him,” someone shouted from the audience. These were jokes, of course. Everyone was laughing.
As Mr. Sanders rises in the polls and claims strong showings in early states, a new set of media stars is on the rise, too. Leading the pack are the hosts of “Chapo Trap House,” the Pied Pipers of the candidate’s online movement.
In their rowdy, vulgar weekly podcast, they are stoking the fires of a political insurgency led by their 78-year-old idol. The man stands for the movement, the movement is the man.
“Our boy Bernie” they call him.
The fivesome of “Chapo Trap House" are not the only bards of the new American left — there is “Red Scare” and another whose name cannot be printed — but they have led the way for a movement that together generates millions of dollars a year. They are on their way to becoming the socialist’s answer to right-wing shock jock radio. Their primary targets, in evidence at that show in Iowa, are not the Republican Party or even Mr. Trump but rather centrist liberals, whom they see as the major obstacle to a workers’ revolution.
In blurring occasionally violent humor, jovial community meetups and radical politics, they are the Tea Party reborn for progressives, and for their fans the appeal is in a bawdy offensive balance to cautious mainstream liberal politics.
They are known collectively as the Dirtbag Left, a shorthand they embrace that winkingly dispenses with any notion of liberal purity or inclusion, a defense mechanism that doubles as a nickname.
Most of the podcast fans would never say out loud what they are listening to onstage or through their AirPods on the commute. It’s offensive, even as a joke.
So why do so many progressives want to hear it?
The anti-establishment establishment
“Chapo Trap House,” which started in 2016, typically runs between 60 and 90 minutes. Two episodes are released every week, one for free and one for the nearly 38,000 people who pay $5 a month through the crowdfunding site Patreon. It leads to a financial windfall for the self-professed socialists who are harnessing this rage: $168,800 a month from those subscribers alone.
The main draw of the show is their banter, the hosts distilling the news of the week and checking in on their favorite and least favorite characters. But they have had major guests, including Mr. Sanders himself.
“These people on top are so powerful that the only way we bring them down, the only way we make the kinds of transformation this country absolutely requires is when millions of people are prepared to stand up and fight back,” Mr. Sanders said during his interview.
And the Sanders campaign maintains a close relationship with the podcast. His senior adviser, David Sirota, and his national press secretary, Briahna Joy Gray, have also been on the podcast. At the Iowa show, a Sanders volunteer stood at the door with fliers and pins to hand out and an email list to gather names.
Their followers — on the night in Iowa City more than 700 strong — come to hear them rage for three hours against the student debt, the high rent, the dead-end creative class jobs, and the feeling of hopelessness fighting against a liberal political establishment that seems polite when they are angry.
They were promised a better life, a more dignified life, and they are done waiting for it.
And for fans, it brings a sense of strength and community during a political era that has only felt like defeat.
“It’s really easy to feel alone in America. It’s the loneliest place in the loneliest time,” the co-host Felix Biederman said, speaking of the early days of their work. “But eventually people started to gather around all these posts into the void.”
The podcast has also morphed into a touring political rally: In addition to the Iowa show, the Chapo crew went to New Hampshire and Nevada, and they have a handful of dates in California leading up to Super Tuesday, filling large venues.
The topic is inequality, raging against the rich.
Progressives who are more concerned with racial equality or gender parity have had to figure out how to either go against the Dirtbag movement or resign themselves to this singular focus, which occasionally runs roughshod over all the rest.
“I’m a news junkie, and it’s good to supplement that with joking especially in America where everyone has to be so careful about what they say,” said Steven Sutro, a 32-year-old lawyer, who attended a comedy show last summer that featured a popular Dirtbag Left podcast host.
Julius Krein, the conservative founder of the new publication American Affairs, has noticed the new allies.
“There is a lot of interesting convergence on some of the anti-woke thinking and many things that, perhaps surprisingly, we agree on, for different reasons,” he said. One of the Chapo hosts contributed a piece to his magazine.
“It’s fairly easy to have fun, pretty exciting dialogue between right-wing anti-neoliberals and left-wing anti-neoliberals.”
But what some call an exciting dialogue can feel exclusionary to others.
“‘Chapo Trap House,’ the entire Dirtbag Left, have tapped that male privilege of intimidating people into assuming you’re cool,” said Amanda Marcotte, a liberal feminist writer for Salon. “It reminds me of when we pretended that ‘Jackass’ was funny back in the day, just so dudes wouldn’t bully you about not liking it.” (Ms. Marcotte has been vocal in her criticism of “Chapo Trap House” and is the subject of mocking attention from the Dirtbag universe.)
As it grows in influence, the Dirtbag Left movement is now running into several challenges.
The movement’s identity is based on being in the wilderness. What happens if its leaders become the establishment? That seems increasingly possible as Mr. Sanders holds on to front-runner status in the 2020 campaign. They want what Mr. Sanders wants: universal health care, canceled student loans, free college, and an overhaul of the tax system. They want to cut the national prison population by half and to install a ban on fracking. And for them anything less than this is nothing at all.
These Sanders supporters eschew the idea of party unity as a scam: “I won’t vote for anyone but Bernie in the general, can’t say what the hundreds of thousands of people who listen to my show will do, but I’m only speaking for myself,” Mr. Menaker wrote on Twitter a day after the Iowa caucuses.
An additional challenge is that as the free-floating anger they stoke finds community, it is escalating and souring into sometimes violent and ugly rhetoric — the kind of rhetoric that other Democratic contenders have fashioned into a major critique of Mr. Sanders.
On Monday, the Sanders campaign fired a campaign organizer, Ben Mora, after his private Twitter feed was revealed to include derogatory comments about 2020 candidates. The Chapo hosts publicly supported Mr. Mora, praising his organizing work and saying, “I hope the campaign doesn’t cave to these whiners and losers.”
For the hosts and their fans, those sort of tweets and the podcast language are all jokes. The audience understands the difference, they argue, and anyway the real problem with the Democrats is that they’re overly sensitive. A bunch of self-serious P.M.C.s (members of the professional-managerial class).
Over the summer, the “Chapo Trap House” message board, which has nearly 153,000 members who chat about the news and memes of the day, was censured by Reddit, which hosts it. The page now has limited reach and is in a sort of digital purgatory, where it remains.
“The reason for the quarantine is that we have observed repeated rule-breaking behavior in your community, especially in the form of encouragement of violence,” Reddit administrators wrote to the group. Comments considered in violation included jokes around historically violent left-wing populist revolutions, like who goes to the guillotine first.
While Hitler jokes are well understood as vile, there is less consensus on what to do when Stalin is the punchline.
“If you want to kick off ironic Nazis, what do you do with the ironic Maoists and ironic Stalinists?” said Andrew Marantz, author of “Antisocial: Online Extremists, Techno-Utopians, and the Hijacking of the American Conversation.”
After receiving their punishment, Chapo moderators wrote to Reddit frustrated: “Are all references to gulags to be considered violent content?”
What Chapo means to the people who listen
The Chapo show in Iowa City was sold out. A few young men wandered down the line asking if anyone had spare tickets.
“We do everything our parents say, and it doesn’t work,” said Brayson Cope, 18, a college student from Altoona and a Sanders volunteer.
His reason for listening to “Chapo" is simple, he said.
(http://“They’re angry. I like it because they’re angry.”)
A man in a Vets for Bernie shirt listed some of the words that he learned from listening to “Chapo”: Marxist materialist, the superstructure, neoliberal. That last one is the top insult in this group — neoliberal shill, is how it would be phrased. And, according to fans of the podcast and movement, there are a lot of neoliberal shills out there.
For many left-wing groups, the Chapo podcast and its Reddit community are now setting the weekly conversation agenda.
“It’s a touchstone,” said Brendan McGillicuddy, 39, who teaches in the cultural studies department at the University of Minnesota. “At my workplace, everyone listens to it, even if you don’t like it.”
As the show began, the five hosts sat in a half circle, dressed casually.
“I hear you live in your parents’ houses,” Mr. Biederman said.
They dove into a discussion of the caucuses, and polling, and whether the media is fair to Mr. Sanders (they think not).
“Should everything go according to plan on Monday, you will have the opportunity to drive a stake through the heart of every single one of the most insufferable cowards in the world,” Mr. Menaker said.
“I’ve been keeping a list,” Ms. A’Lee Frost said. “Have you been keeping a list?”
There was a case of White Claw, an alcoholic seltzer water, onstage.
When Hillary Clinton’s name came up, the reaction was nearly indistinguishable from a Trump rally.
“Lock her up,” the co-host Matt Christman said to the crowd.
The crowd began to chant: Lock her up. Lock her up.
“She never really cracked the glass ceiling,” Mr. Biederman said. “She more like fell down the glass staircase.”
During the three-hour show, there is little vision laid out for what they want, beyond a Sanders presidency. There is a vision for what they want destroyed and how good it will feel to do that. The idea of actually taking power is terrifying, and they say so.
“What’s scary is the idea that this could end,” Mr. Biederman said. “What’s scary is we’re not just tossing catharsis into the void, that this is something real. We are there.”
The Chapo radicals
When “Chapo Trap House” tried to put on an event in Brooklyn over the summer, the Gowanus Canal, a Superfund site in the middle of a now-trendy neighborhood, flooded and was mixed with a downpour to make a knee-deep, fast-moving, debris-filled river.
Fans held on to one another as they marched through it to get to a live taping. Inside the venue, they sat in folding chairs as water rose at their feet. When the bathrooms began flooding, the manager decided the night was canceled, and fans begrudgingly slushed their way out.
The Chapo co-host Virgil Texas (he lives and works under that pseudonym) went to a nearby bar for a beer.
“It’s a common experience to be someone with a crappy job who does not have an outlet for your set of beliefs and you feel insane because you’re surrounded by liberals or Evangelicals or whatever stultifying milieu,” he said. “And one day you find a piece of media with some folks who are articulating what you always believed: You’re not crazy, you’re right, this is exactly how the world works, and you’re getting screwed.”
He said he knew that the anger the podcast was building could be dangerous, but he said the anger — and the fear of violence it brings — was good.
His girlfriend at the time, who worked in the media, joined at the bar. He ordered popcorn and a coconut cocktail called the painkiller, and sat hunched over, gesticulating rapidly in the tight space between his face and his lap.
“Educating a generation and saddling them with debt and then not giving them jobs where they have the wage that they presume they should receive based on the amount of time they spent on education,” Virgil said. “That’s a pretty good way to turn them into radicals.”
He is a good example of his own target audience: He graduated with $100,000 of debt from Cornell and after college took freelance gigs from Craigslist, hoping to write.
While the Chapo hosts rail against the media establishment, they are also deeply entwined with it and largely beloved by it. (Mr. Menaker, for example, grew up on the Upper West Side, the son of a New York Times editor and a New Yorker editor.)
Their goal is to cut off the right wing of the Democratic Party. The center-left and the center-right are in cahoots, friendly and living near each other in wealthy neighborhoods like the Upper West Side and —
“Westchester,” his girlfriend interjected softly. (She is from there; she wants to stay anonymous; the Chapo fans scare her.)
“No no, I wasn’t going to say Westchester, darling,” he assured her.
He does not want to live in a capitalist society at all.
“I think it’s a moral stain to live in this society,” he said. “And every day I think, God I’d rather just leave.”
But he’s not sure where he would move.
For now, he has decided to go on the road.
Outside the Iowa City show, Adam Angstead, 46, had stepped out of the theater for a cigarette. He works for the Iowa City school district as a substitute teacher five days a week, but he said his employment offers no benefits. On the weekends he works at a diner. Twice a week he sells his blood plasma for extra cash.
It’s still not enough. He was trying to pay down his $40,000 in student loans for a while, but it hardly made a dent, and recently he has gotten a deferment. For him, the primary feels like a life-or-death battle.
“Being in a room with a bunch of people who think the same thing or close made me think we might not all literally die,” he said. “Bernie’s the only one.”
Toward the end of the show, the crowd by then frenzied and a little drunk, periodically broke out in chants of Mr. Sanders’s slogan: Not Me. Us.
And finally, with the Chapo hosts leading, they stood and sang “Solidarity Forever,” the old trade union anthem.
People put their arms around each other and swayed as they screamed.
In our hands is placed a power
Greater than their hoarded gold
We can bring to birth a new world
From the ashes of the old.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/29/us/politics/bernie-sanders-chapo-trap-house.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/29/us/politics/bernie-sanders-chapo-trap-house.html)
Post by: Tripon on February 29, 2020, 02:58:26 PM
Post by: VomKriege on February 29, 2020, 03:02:04 PM
:ussrcry
Post by: VomKriege on February 29, 2020, 03:09:04 PM
Post by: curly on February 29, 2020, 03:09:23 PM
Post by: curly on February 29, 2020, 03:14:10 PM
:lol @ the nyt not being able to print Cum Town.
Naming Red Scare and Cum Town as the other two reps of leftist podcasting is the biggest tell on the piece's real intentions.
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 29, 2020, 03:14:43 PM
https://twitter.com/Juliess31/status/1233605186662391809
Re: #resistancers
I found this Reddit bit pretty :thinking inducing.
I do like Trump's lack of beautifying standard American policy somewhat refreshing despite not liking, well, the vast majority of anything he's done.
(https://i.imgur.com/hlhzBKf.png)
Post by: EchoRin on February 29, 2020, 03:20:10 PM
Post by: Tripon on February 29, 2020, 03:22:14 PM
:dead
Post by: VomKriege on February 29, 2020, 03:22:52 PM
Why are Diamond and Silk trending anyway?
I saw a photo of them sitting as guests in a Cabinet meeting with Trump-in-Chief, I assume it's recent.
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 29, 2020, 03:23:39 PM
From that article, you'd think Chapo going to start carrying tiki torches. :doge
You will not replace us, ironically.
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 29, 2020, 03:53:38 PM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on February 29, 2020, 03:57:39 PM
the reflexive revulsion towards violence/coercion is related, but i have a harder time excavating why exactly its so distasteful to me. i saw a comment thread on reddit yesterday between a paint by the numbers technocratic liberal and a vaguely marxist leftie; they went through the usual bullet points before the centrist signed off with a respectably purplish illustration of the “terrors of marxist regimes” meted out on its subjects. the rhetorical bluster’s just enough to get you to sympathize until you notice that the subjects in question were...gusanos fleeing to florida. now, i’m gonna remain agnostic about how effectively distributed the violence was (idk shit about cuba) but denying that lining up landlords/slaveowners against a wall could ever be justified in principle strikes me as not just ignoble but also historically illiterate.
there’s a line in the intro to a student edition of hobbes i have that’s something to the effect of: the only people who find hobbes’ defense of absolute, arbitrary sovereignty compelling are the ones who’ve lived through war. and that’s probably right. but equally, the centrality to fanon of violence -not just its liberatory potential in boring consequentialist terms, but the therapy it performs on the dispossessed and indigent- shouldn’t be intelligible to someone until they’ve been caged in ostensible peacetime.
Post by: Tripon on February 29, 2020, 04:03:38 PM
Lies I've played metal gear bro gtfo
When the PMC becomes the PMC.
https://twitter.com/ByYourLogic/status/1231484894234038272
Post by: Tripon on February 29, 2020, 06:44:54 PM
Quote
GLENN BECK: You can tell by the people [Bernie Sanders] surrounds himself with. Have you looked at that? The self-proclaimed communist. The founders and leaders of antifa, Black Lives Matter, Occupy Wall Street. Yes, the modern versions of the Weather Underground terrorist organization are all on his campaign staff. These are not grassroot groups of Democrats, they are Marxist revolutionaries who believe in nothing short of the complete overthrow of the United States and destruction of the Constitution and the free market system.:yikes
And, please, let us stop calling them Bernie bros. Because they are not my brother. They are not something that is funny. They are Bernie Bolsheviks. They are Bernie Brownshirts. That’s what they are. And their revolution will result in death and misery. Another Holodomor. Or another Holocaust. Or whatever we call the next great socialist atrocity.
This fight is not new. The world has been here before. People like you and me have been battling this for generations. Our fathers and grandfathers, they fought the socialists in Germany and the communists in Russia -- World War II. But in a way, they kind of had it easy. I mean, in their time, the bad guys wore black US, or -- SS uniforms made by Hugo Boss and had little funny mustaches. But our bad guys come off just as crotchety humanity professors whining about “class warfare and how crappy white people treated the Native Americans.”
We have to stop pretending that socialism and its modern prophets are innocent or comedic or sideshows or just another choice, and the ghosts of over 100 million dead victims of Marxist ideology cry out to us in this generation from their blood-soaked graves to remind us this isn’t a joke, this is the fight of our lives. This time it’s our turn. Today is our day. Today is the time. This, as Reagan said, is our point of choosing. We are called upon to carry the cross, dare I say it, of freedom and liberty for one another. For our friends and our neighbors and our kids and our grandkids. For every person that we’ve never even met before who has lived without the blessing of liberty. And for the future generations here, and in Venezuela, and everywhere else who deserve freedom.
Make no mistake, we are at war. And may it forever remain a cold war. But it is a war that has been going on for a long time and the next enemy wave is right here at our gates, they are inside of our gates. And no matter how the media spins this, they’re not harmless grumpy grandpas. They’re not. They’re armed with pipe bombs, Molotov cocktails, and guns. They are here for revolution. The one one of their professors have been telling them is just around the corner. They believe it. They may be armed with rocks and bombs and guns, but we must arm ourselves with the most effective weapon mankind has in its arsenal: Courage and truth.
Post by: shosta on February 29, 2020, 06:48:19 PM
I love how all these strange bedfellows from the Republican party (Ana Navarro, Bret Stephens, Jennifer Rubin...) that have insisted for four years that Trump cannot be president are staring at the alternative and now shitting their pants :lol So much for Woke Kristol!going to get so much mileage out of this one.
Post by: Nintex on February 29, 2020, 06:49:24 PM
Quote
Our fathers and grandfathers, they fought the socialists in Germany and the communists in Russia -- World War II. But in a way, they kind of had it easy.:dead
Post by: shosta on February 29, 2020, 06:51:52 PM
https://youtu.be/wuSDfVRGI54
Post by: VomKriege on February 29, 2020, 07:09:07 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 29, 2020, 07:47:14 PM
QuoteOur fathers and grandfathers, they fought the socialists in Germany and the communists in Russia -- World War II. But in a way, they kind of had it easy.:dead
Great stuff, partial to this as well.
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And, please, let us stop calling them Bernie bros. Because they are not my brother.
Post by: benjipwns on February 29, 2020, 11:54:23 PM
maintaining that the only legitimate politics are the ones that willfully mortify the passions is the most slavish shit ever, and you inordinately see it from bootlickers already comfortably placed within hegemony.I had to go back and realize you meant slavish instead of Slavish :notlikethis
the reflexive revulsion towards violence/coercion is related, but i have a harder time excavating why exactly its so distasteful to me. i saw a comment thread on reddit yesterday between a paint by the numbers technocratic liberal and a vaguely marxist leftie; they went through the usual bullet points before the centrist signed off with a respectably purplish illustration of the “terrors of marxist regimes” meted out on its subjects. the rhetorical bluster’s just enough to get you to sympathize until you notice that the subjects in question were...gusanos fleeing to florida. now, i’m gonna remain agnostic about how effectively distributed the violence was (idk shit about cuba) but denying that lining up landlords/slaveowners against a wall could ever be justified in principle strikes me as not just ignoble but also historically illiterate.
there’s a line in the intro to a student edition of hobbes i have that’s something to the effect of: the only people who find hobbes’ defense of absolute, arbitrary sovereignty compelling are the ones who’ve lived through war. and that’s probably right. but equally, the centrality to fanon of violence -not just its liberatory potential in boring consequentialist terms, but the therapy it performs on the dispossessed and indigent- shouldn’t be intelligible to someone until they’ve been caged in ostensible peacetime.
Post by: benjipwns on February 29, 2020, 11:58:19 PM
They literally had a Black Summit:Why are Diamond and Silk trending anyway?
I saw a photo of them sitting as guests in a Cabinet meeting with Trump-in-Chief, I assume it's recent.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ER084C3XkAAuRGj?format=jpg)
Post by: Pissy F Benny on March 01, 2020, 12:03:21 AM
Post by: benjipwns on March 01, 2020, 12:17:36 AM
The lady on the rights hat :lawd(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ER3ozMOXUAE6u_B?format=jpg)
Post by: team filler on March 01, 2020, 01:25:18 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 01, 2020, 06:13:01 PM
Post by: shosta on March 01, 2020, 08:10:29 PM
"Rousseau was the gateway to Marx... and Plato was the gateway to Rousseau."
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 01, 2020, 08:17:05 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/u97b9ym.png)
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on March 01, 2020, 08:51:08 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 01, 2020, 10:00:52 PM
edit: THIS ONE
(https://i.redd.it/uedawtfzqbgz.jpg)
Post by: shosta on March 01, 2020, 10:13:49 PM
Post by: Momo on March 01, 2020, 11:48:54 PM
FACT CHECK: they also bring up the paradox of tolerance and get Popper's argument wrong because they didn't read it but there's a snarky image they saw on the internet :rageFACT CHECK: A tiki torch was never meant for this and the united federation of Walmarts disavows it's use
edit: THIS ONE
(https://i.redd.it/uedawtfzqbgz.jpg)
Post by: Crash Dummy on March 02, 2020, 02:18:26 AM
Listening to Charlie Kirk talk to Mark Levin::lol :lol :lol link pls i need some humour at work
"Rousseau was the gateway to Marx... and Plato was the gateway to Rousseau."
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 02, 2020, 09:00:26 AM
https://twitter.com/howardfineman/status/1233412073528397824
The absolute gall of this man, trying to win an election like he owns the place!
Post by: Momo on March 02, 2020, 09:51:15 AM
https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1234296325224718338 (https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1234296325224718338?s=19)
Man living his life out there
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 02, 2020, 10:14:44 AM
Post by: Nintex on March 02, 2020, 01:27:09 PM
https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1234096286649004032 (https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1234096286649004032)
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 02, 2020, 03:02:05 PM
(https://i.redd.it/frlbxdep5ak41.png)
https://twitter.com/eric_seufert/status/1233794081903534082
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 02, 2020, 03:13:47 PM
Post by: team filler on March 02, 2020, 08:21:44 PM
:lol
Post by: team filler on March 02, 2020, 08:38:16 PM
https://twitter.com/winston_kirk/status/1234639765955321857
https://twitter.com/winston_kirk/status/1234640749356081152
https://twitter.com/winston_kirk/status/1234640833758089217
:hyper
Post by: BisMarckie on March 02, 2020, 08:54:28 PM
FACT CHECK: they also bring up the paradox of tolerance and get Popper's argument wrong because they didn't read it but there's a snarky image they saw on the internet :rage
edit: THIS ONE
(https://i.redd.it/uedawtfzqbgz.jpg)
FACT CHECK: Paul von Hindenburg would have never said "Let's give them a chance" :karen
Post by: benjipwns on March 02, 2020, 09:55:22 PM
Charlie Kirkhttps://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1234339094437732352
Post by: benjipwns on March 02, 2020, 11:04:42 PM
Post by: Momo on March 02, 2020, 11:33:43 PM
'anal fisting thread'oh weird. why doesnt his one embed? nsfw flags?
https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1234296325224718338 (https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1234296325224718338?s=19)
Man living his life out there
Post by: Momo on March 02, 2020, 11:34:44 PM
it's big brain time
Post by: Oblivion on March 03, 2020, 12:06:12 AM
FACT CHECK: they also bring up the paradox of tolerance and get Popper's argument wrong because they didn't read it but there's a snarky image they saw on the internet :rage
edit: THIS ONE
(https://i.redd.it/uedawtfzqbgz.jpg)
so what's the actual argument he was making?
Post by: Oblivion on March 03, 2020, 12:07:28 AM
I just remembered that Samantha Bee did a segment with him literally called Strange Bedfellows :lawd
https://youtu.be/wuSDfVRGI54
i still can't fucking get over that.
it was especially vomit inducing coming from Bee of all people, who prided herself for supposedly being smart enough to see past the bullshit of "decorum" politics ::) :yuck
Post by: benjipwns on March 03, 2020, 01:14:12 AM
Post by: benjipwns on March 03, 2020, 01:14:32 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 03, 2020, 01:15:17 AM
edit: just in case you were going to do your usual deep dive of course! No qualms otherwise!
Post by: Oblivion on March 03, 2020, 01:20:47 AM
Post by: Mandark on March 03, 2020, 01:21:51 AM
Post by: benjipwns on March 03, 2020, 01:56:01 AM
i axed you a question, benji-kun
so what's the actual argument he was making?Popper says to combat intolerance with "rational argument" not the force of law. So the part where the image says intolerance "must be outside of the law" cannot be sourced to the claimed source. The only point in which he says force can be used to combat intolerant forces is when they resort to force/violence/etc. rather than simply intolerant speech.
We can disagree about if Popper successfully solved the dilemma or not but it's arguably not a paradox at all in Open Society, Popper thinks "rational argument" can debunk/shame/defeat intolerant forces, the image is closer to promoting the argument in Marcuse's Repressive Tolerance in which the law is used to preemptively suppress views the state determines to be intolerant.
Post by: Oblivion on March 03, 2020, 02:33:25 AM
i axed you a question, benji-kunso what's the actual argument he was making?Popper says to combat intolerance with "rational argument" not the force of law. So the part where the image says intolerance "must be outside of the law" cannot be sourced to the claimed source. The only point in which he says force can be used to combat intolerant forces is when they resort to force/violence/etc. rather than simply intolerant speech.
We can disagree about if Popper successfully solved the dilemma or not but it's arguably not a paradox at all in Open Society, Popper thinks "rational argument" can debunk/shame/defeat intolerant forces, the image is closer to promoting the argument in Marcuse's Repressive Tolerance in which the law is used to preemptively suppress views the state determines to be intolerant.
thanks
so popper would be right at home with the intellectual dark web crowd if he were alive today
Post by: benjipwns on March 03, 2020, 02:46:54 AM
Although I guess there certainly is that element of someone coming from another field and then writing what's mostly already been written by others as if it's this groundbreaking political work that does wind up being more popular.
I think he was one of the Mont Pelerin founders actually.
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on March 03, 2020, 03:03:48 AM
I think he was one of the Mont Pelerin founders actually.yep. this + the meme takeaways from open society are the only things i know about him politically. like you said hes way more important to phil of science than anything. his readings of historical texts royally pissed off conservative intellectuals at the time, like strauss, who had more skin in the game when it came to the canonTM. again, havent read it, but i also havent ever seen anyone take open society’s readings of plato, hegel, et al. serious outside of like, crank op-ed writers.
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 03, 2020, 02:58:31 PM
https://twitter.com/ChuckWendig/status/1234826884539613186
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 03, 2020, 07:12:48 PM
Post by: Momo on March 03, 2020, 11:56:32 PM
:fbm :pepehands
Post by: EchoRin on March 04, 2020, 12:05:23 AM
https://twitter.com/CBCWorldNews/status/1234772793197318147
https://twitter.com/ChuckWendig/status/1234826884539613186
https://twitter.com/CBCWorldNews/status/1234935784244944896
hahaha
Post by: shosta on March 04, 2020, 12:06:33 AM
Post by: benjipwns on March 04, 2020, 02:06:46 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 04, 2020, 03:03:31 PM
https://twitter.com/sairasameerarao/status/1235204464044195841
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 04, 2020, 04:05:12 PM
(https://i.redd.it/c0z19yqsvpk41.png)
Post by: benjipwns on March 04, 2020, 08:29:17 PM
Post by: Momo on March 05, 2020, 12:28:18 AM
Just wait for when she endorses Biden.(https://i.imgur.com/AeCR193.png)
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 05, 2020, 04:11:01 PM
(https://i.redd.it/72ququ4q3uk41.png)
Post by: naff on March 05, 2020, 05:01:51 PM
fine
https://twitter.com/eric_seufert/status/1233794081903534082
i like that chapo is helping mobilise the masses, but i stopped listening to their podcast years ago because it's edgelord trash :snob
Post by: naff on March 05, 2020, 05:07:17 PM
also, :o sheeeit i forgot about that NYT piece that triggered this discussion. yeah... that sucked, and is a smear. i dont think chapo are dangerous or the pied pipers of the left per se. from the sounds of it their political rallying is the only good thing they've done and kinda makes up for some of the shite they've promoted on their show imo.
Post by: curly on March 05, 2020, 05:13:36 PM
fine
https://twitter.com/eric_seufert/status/1233794081903534082
Quote
Marketing science, freemium monetization, & analytics. Owner, @mobiledevmemo
and QuantMar. Built Theseus Growth: http://git.io/JvqYV. Heracles Media: http://hrcls.co.
Not sure if a joke account or not :thinking
Post by: nachobro on March 05, 2020, 05:18:43 PM
i like that chapo is helping mobilise the masses, but i stopped listening to their podcast years ago because it's edgelord trash :snobcum town awaits friend :rejoice
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 05, 2020, 06:45:56 PM
i like that chapo is helping mobilise the masses, but i stopped listening to their podcast years ago because it's edgelord trash :snobcum town awaits friend :rejoice
NYT will find them more difficult to attack because they can’t print the name. :rejoice
Post by: Tripon on March 05, 2020, 10:58:57 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 05, 2020, 11:50:30 PM
Between this and the mommy warren thing I saw yesterday, some of you need therapy
(https://i.redd.it/c0z19yqsvpk41.png)
https://twitter.com/sclngnr_II/status/1235540417871044608
Post by: Momo on March 05, 2020, 11:57:54 PM
Why is bob chipman's entire feed of 300000 tweets a day just about politics and minor shit like this lmao
Post by: Tripon on March 06, 2020, 01:12:07 AM
Post by: shosta on March 06, 2020, 01:49:43 AM
https://twitter.com/cushbomb/status/1235788866306691073
Everybody is so mad :lol
Post by: Oblivion on March 06, 2020, 02:05:09 AM
Post by: EchoRin on March 06, 2020, 04:15:13 AM
The 2020 race is slowly becoming too much for me. Gonna have to stop visiting the US News thread seeing as I enjoy the wankdad thread more and some the 2020 race bleeds over here.
https://youtu.be/klYu0ptDOGk
Post by: Oblivion on March 06, 2020, 11:36:55 PM
twitter is currently having a debate on whether this is cringe-y or not cringey (cause she's hot)
what say you, the bore?
Post by: Tripon on March 06, 2020, 11:49:03 PM
https://twitter.com/neekolul/status/1234601269127458817
twitter is currently having a debate on whether this is cringe-y or not cringey (cause she's hot)
what say you, the bore?
https://twitter.com/neekolul/status/1234236518513938434
:bernie
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 07, 2020, 12:33:16 AM
Post by: El Babua on March 07, 2020, 01:28:00 AM
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on March 07, 2020, 08:07:06 AM
Post by: Nintex on March 07, 2020, 08:14:19 AM
https://twitter.com/neekolul/status/1234601269127458817El Presidente Bernie por favor :whoo
twitter is currently having a debate on whether this is cringe-y or not cringey (cause she's hot)
what say you, the bore?
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 07, 2020, 09:41:23 AM
https://twitter.com/neekolul/status/1234601269127458817
twitter is currently having a debate on whether this is cringe-y or not cringey (cause she's hot)
what say you, the bore?
She's cute, so I'll allow it.
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 07, 2020, 02:50:09 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EScAZ-6U8AA5KuI?format=jpg&name=small)
Post by: team filler on March 07, 2020, 03:00:25 PM
YOU HAD BETTER FUCKING ALLOW IT, MATE (https://i.imgur.com/seoCg9k.jpg)https://twitter.com/neekolul/status/1234601269127458817
twitter is currently having a debate on whether this is cringe-y or not cringey (cause she's hot)
what say you, the bore?
She's cute, so I'll allow it.
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 07, 2020, 03:50:46 PM
poly commies btfo
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EScAZ-6U8AA5KuI?format=jpg&name=small)
Is this that fully automated luxury gay space communism I've been hearing about recently?
Post by: VomKriege on March 07, 2020, 03:52:15 PM
https://jonmcnaughton.com/patriotic/americana/ (https://jonmcnaughton.com/patriotic/americana/)
Quote
Cracks in the road spell M A G A.
Federal Capitol Building represents Trump’s opposition among the Democrats and weak Republicans.
The crowd of American supporters, from all backgrounds proudly wearing their red Make America Great Again hats.
American Flag is a source of light.
Artist paints himself in the painting.
https://jonmcnaughton.com/maga-ride/ (https://jonmcnaughton.com/maga-ride/)
Post by: Tripon on March 07, 2020, 06:22:34 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 07, 2020, 06:27:56 PM
Post by: BisMarckie on March 07, 2020, 06:48:58 PM
poly commies btfoLooks like Stalin has been working out :obama
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EScAZ-6U8AA5KuI?format=jpg&name=small)
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 07, 2020, 09:16:41 PM
Post by: team filler on March 07, 2020, 10:00:27 PM
:cenk
Post by: EchoRin on March 07, 2020, 10:08:08 PM
Post by: Tripon on March 07, 2020, 10:13:22 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 07, 2020, 10:13:41 PM
Can the Brain Force Plus user Alex Jones please clown this dummy again? How did this guy think about running for something in Somewhere, California? Just so off the mark in terms of presentation. Like that lady who Benji is obsessed with. You're just bad messengers. Really.
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/032/874/cover4.jpg)
Post by: EchoRin on March 07, 2020, 10:23:00 PM
Edit: The one who is trans.
Post by: benjipwns on March 07, 2020, 10:41:29 PM
Post by: EchoRin on March 07, 2020, 10:43:01 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 07, 2020, 10:56:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt6wxcEG7nk
Post by: Tripon on March 07, 2020, 11:35:33 PM
She's been on a few times, they talk about important issues like Gamergate and Gamergate plus Gamergate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt6wxcEG7nk
The streams are crossing. https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1236077887268282370
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 08, 2020, 04:39:39 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 08, 2020, 04:46:44 PM
he's "PMC" as fuck :neogaf
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 10, 2020, 07:07:19 PM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1235228058027728898
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 10, 2020, 10:13:36 PM
https://twitter.com/tomhfh/status/1234956118566285312
Post by: Momo on March 11, 2020, 12:54:34 AM
poly commies btfoI AM ONCE AGAIN ASKING FOR PREPARATION H
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EScAZ-6U8AA5KuI?format=jpg&name=small)
Post by: EchoRin on March 11, 2020, 01:15:30 AM
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/conspiracy-theorist-alex-jones-arrested-dwi-texas-69513558
Post by: Momo on March 11, 2020, 01:19:49 AM
AYE LMAO(https://i.imgur.com/0pG6BTz.png)
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/conspiracy-theorist-alex-jones-arrested-dwi-texas-69513558
Post by: Brehvolution on March 11, 2020, 04:13:43 PM
the comments :mynicca
https://twitter.com/tomhfh/status/1234956118566285312
:rofl
There was no wealth in the world 200 years ago?
Post by: BisMarckie on March 11, 2020, 04:20:14 PM
Post by: team filler on March 11, 2020, 04:27:44 PM
Post by: Flannel Boy on March 11, 2020, 04:36:58 PM
what were stonks like in the dinosaur day? did the stonks crash when the asteroid hit ???
Yes, but it was a good day for fossil fuel.
Post by: team filler on March 11, 2020, 04:41:35 PM
I used to be friends on fb with this australian bloke who was convinced the global elites were trying to force us all to the coastal areas so a giant tsunami could wipe us out. supposedly to make more oil :dogewhat were stonks like in the dinosaur day? did the stonks crash when the asteroid hit ???
Yes, but it was a good day for fossil fuel.
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 11, 2020, 09:25:55 PM
(https://preview.redd.it/pobfg5jy32m41.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=fd9d1fe7caa4c9af14faaa34120754a0b1f3e801)
Post by: benjipwns on March 12, 2020, 01:07:14 AM
Post by: Momo on March 12, 2020, 01:16:20 AM
https://twitter.com/MaraGay/status/1237832854991765504how predictable
Post by: Momo on March 12, 2020, 01:21:06 AM
of course he's a nintenyearold
Post by: shosta on March 12, 2020, 01:28:56 AM
I have some bad news.
Post by: EchoRin on March 12, 2020, 01:44:20 AM
https://twitter.com/MaraGay/status/1237832854991765504
Quote
“You’re a great example of why we need to end Affirmative Action,” someone named Jim B. wrote me in an email this weekend. “Get a job scrubbing floors. It’s the only thing you’re good for.”
On Twitter, it was about the same. “Keep thinking that your important. Lol … your a nobody … you fill a seat … only because your Black. that’s the only reason. cause if was based on education or merit, you would be working at Walmart … sometimes the truth hurts … your a lowlife.”
“Is that you using that black girl magic I heard about. You so silly, can’t believe you have a job there. LOL”
One email read simply, “have a banana.”
These are just a few examples of many.
Eh, yeah. She got more than the average inbred Yahoo comment section reply. Not really an appropriate criticism for her mistake.
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 12, 2020, 06:59:50 PM
https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1238199779579949057
Post by: Mandark on March 12, 2020, 08:23:23 PM
If I made one of those [political quizzes], it would have a question about college basketball. If you say it's better than the NBA you're racist.
my only good insight
Post by: shosta on March 12, 2020, 08:25:56 PM
Post by: Tripon on March 12, 2020, 11:27:17 PM
Quote
For one thing, he said the government, in a move that would have to be considered “radical,” should stop collecting taxes for now. “Everyone owes the government at all times,” he said. “Everyone in this country — individuals, corporations. That has to be suspended right now so they have more money.”
Quote
Cramer also said he fears that several companies in the S&P 500 could go bankrupt within a month due to the economic slowdown caused by the coronavirus outbreak.
“Are we going to sit here and let so many companies go bankrupt because of an illness? I think that is stupid,” he said. “Once we settle that out and stop worrying about money, we can worry about health simultaneously. Right now we can’t do both.”
:doge
Post by: shosta on March 12, 2020, 11:28:39 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 13, 2020, 12:43:21 AM
Post by: Momo on March 13, 2020, 12:55:56 AM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1238244061267533825https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Hla7Po8On0
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 13, 2020, 01:11:12 AM
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 13, 2020, 09:07:29 AM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1238244061267533825
Dude's as bad at Twitter hot takes as he is at developing video games.
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 13, 2020, 02:37:00 PM
Post by: BisMarckie on March 13, 2020, 02:39:37 PM
I was unaware that the folks at pornhub were huge Berlusconi fans.
Bunga Bunga :playa
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 13, 2020, 06:27:26 PM
https://twitter.com/HC_Richardson/status/1237921183917641728
Post by: Nintex on March 15, 2020, 03:22:44 PM
Forza Italia?Surprised?
I was unaware that the folks at pornhub were huge Berlusconi fans.
Bunga Bunga :playa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1Ho-mT63us
Adam Curtis
Looking back it is if we've entered an ancient roman tomb all the people praising and singing for their dear leader were killed by a Chinese Bio-Weapon
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The death troll among wank dads will be catastrophic :existential
Post by: Tripon on March 15, 2020, 07:26:00 PM
Should I trust Lyn28807058? :doge
Post by: EchoRin on March 17, 2020, 05:31:52 AM
Why do I stay subbed to this youtube channel ::)
https://youtu.be/MYa93WlPt3I
Post by: HardcoreRetro on March 17, 2020, 05:34:48 AM
Post by: BIONIC on March 17, 2020, 08:23:13 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on March 17, 2020, 08:26:52 AM
Post by: Tripon on March 19, 2020, 12:38:12 PM
:lawd
Post by: Momo on March 19, 2020, 05:47:12 PM
Post by: team filler on March 19, 2020, 11:53:12 PM
Post by: EchoRin on March 19, 2020, 11:55:39 PM
We lost him way too early.
Post by: benjipwns on March 20, 2020, 12:03:13 AM
*Neither did JSTOR.
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 20, 2020, 12:14:13 AM
Post by: Tripon on March 20, 2020, 12:32:04 AM
https://twitter.com/KanielaIng/status/1240379750566129665
https://twitter.com/reason/status/1240840990937812992
https://twitter.com/reason/status/1240771535318798337
https://twitter.com/reason/status/1240684231606456320
https://twitter.com/nickgillespie/status/1240797345098457088
Post by: benjipwns on March 20, 2020, 02:03:55 AM
https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1240622167747944449
https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1239926802363174912
Post by: Tripon on March 20, 2020, 12:53:57 PM
https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1116178219487641600
Post by: Tripon on March 20, 2020, 05:01:41 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 20, 2020, 05:03:32 PM
:dead
Post by: Nintex on March 20, 2020, 05:41:36 PM
who can resist that thumbnail?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 20, 2020, 05:43:36 PM
Post by: Tripon on March 21, 2020, 03:52:50 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETZaKYBWsAEjZfe?format=jpg&name=medium)
Post by: EchoRin on March 21, 2020, 07:22:50 PM
Filler must love this Mos Def song. 1 cause it's great and 2 because it kinda defends his man OJ to some degree
You can laugh and criticize Michael Jackson if you wanna
Woody Allen molested and married his step-daughter
Same press kicking dirt on Michael's name
Show Woody and Soon-Yi at the playoff game (holding hands)
Sit back and just bug, think about that
Would he get that type of dap if his name was Woody Black?
O.J. found innocent by jury of his peers
And they been fucking with that nicca for the last five years
Is it fair, is it equal, is it just, is it right?
https://youtu.be/A3TilwlPvP4
Edit: Ha Take that "word filter" can't get your hands on a youtube name punk.
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 21, 2020, 07:46:20 PM
https://twitter.com/IngrahamAngle/status/1240967734319558656
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 21, 2020, 07:49:35 PM
cons are blatant sociopaths omg
https://twitter.com/IngrahamAngle/status/1241332751359455232
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 21, 2020, 08:14:17 PM
IS THE MANAGER HERE
https://twitter.com/IngrahamAngle/status/1240967734319558656
corona-chan goes brrrrr
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 22, 2020, 12:02:24 AM
https://twitter.com/IngrahamAngle/status/1241332751359455232
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqyLJ-fWbSI
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 22, 2020, 02:28:35 PM
I've found possibly a golden take
https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer/status/689692099009097729
Post by: EchoRin on March 22, 2020, 02:31:22 PM
I'm all for anime (porn or otherwise), but I don't think it's done much to advance Europe other than create weebs.
Post by: Momo on March 23, 2020, 01:15:47 AM
Glorious anime o7
Glorious Hitl.. wait
:fbm
Post by: team filler on March 23, 2020, 01:24:40 AM
Post by: EchoRin on March 23, 2020, 01:38:02 AM
Post by: Tripon on March 23, 2020, 11:28:25 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 23, 2020, 11:34:01 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 23, 2020, 11:34:56 PM
Post by: EchoRin on March 23, 2020, 11:53:53 PM
https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1241807123501084672
I think I posted this once before, but back when I was still in college I had the dream of teaching Enlgish in Japan ("wow you fucking weeb". Yeah I know. I am). A friend was kind enough to invite me to his family's Thanksgiving and I accepted. I was talking to his grandma while the Detroit Lions were getting smoked on live tv (a favorite past time of mine, as I dislike that team out of fun to poke at my buddies).
I brought up that I was hoping to go to Japan to teach English after school and out of the blue she goes "well you have to be careful. Those Japanese are sneaky" (I think she also mentioned that some president said that back in WW2 I guess). I was kinda taken aback and merely smiled and said something like, "ah well times change, but I'm a pretty careful person so I think it will be alright."
Lady was like 80 I would have to guess. Never knew there was some kind of stereotype about Japanese people being sneaky.
-------
Oh and needless to say, all 3 Japanese teaching companies I applied to ended up denying me. Probably cause of my citizenship. Fools. I spent the vast majority of my life in North America. English is more of my first language than my actual mother tongue. Oh well. Your loss.
I'm still bitter :'( :maf
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 24, 2020, 12:07:29 AM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
The Japanese being sneaking and stealing strawberries is one of my favorite racist no-sequitur jokes from I'm Sorry I'll Read That Again. And I only half remember the joke.
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Post by: OnlyRegret on March 24, 2020, 12:16:25 AM
this is only searching through like, the last 10 hours of his twitter
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1242292196885348355
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1242182648040247302
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1242169451316940806
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1242167618334752769
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1242142869785325568
Post by: Tripon on March 24, 2020, 12:16:46 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 24, 2020, 01:00:00 PM
Post by: VomKriege on March 24, 2020, 04:14:21 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 24, 2020, 04:15:51 PM
Quote
I'll start worrying when these godless Liberals don't hate what I say.
newsfeed please
Post by: Mandark on March 24, 2020, 04:20:25 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 24, 2020, 04:21:15 PM
there has been a few exceptions and should be allowed for the most special of circumstances
Post by: EchoRin on March 24, 2020, 04:28:00 PM
is my favorite newsfeed and that one is definitely from off the site cause one day I went digging into the origin of that.
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 24, 2020, 06:03:53 PM
Or about Taco Bell.
Post by: Momo on March 25, 2020, 06:03:18 AM
Post by: Tripon on March 25, 2020, 11:18:28 AM
Post by: D3RANG3D on March 25, 2020, 11:22:23 AM
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(https://i.imgur.com/QvWXSlH.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/SyUaoBY.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/8WdWOdT.jpg)
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Post by: Pissy F Benny on March 25, 2020, 01:10:45 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 25, 2020, 04:26:18 PM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1242783833755435008
ahh, now I see his true side
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1242905977319493632
Post by: EchoRin on March 25, 2020, 04:42:26 PM
Lady was like 80 I would have to guess. Never knew there was some kind of stereotype about Japanese people being sneaky.
Must have post-WW2 aged grandparents.
Growing up in the 80s everyone knew this sterotype lol
My Grandpa used to comment on "japs" nearly every time I saw him in some fashion.
Well my family is Czech. We don't really think about the Japanese at all. My grandparents (at least 2 are for sure pre WW2) wouldn't even have any real concept of Japanese stereotypes.
Oh sure, plenty of Vietnamese stereotypes cause they are a fairly large minority in the CZ, but yeah.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 25, 2020, 06:44:09 PM
Post by: curly on March 25, 2020, 07:31:13 PM
Saving this for the next time one of you says something positive about this fat nerd because he posted something vaguely leftish.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
realizing after-the-post that I'm talking about myself
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Post by: benjipwns on March 25, 2020, 08:45:00 PM
https://twitter.com/petercoffin/status/1242931195438084096
Post by: Mandark on March 25, 2020, 08:53:56 PM
:brain :brain Giving people chloroquine for COVID19 is good because of the placebo effect.
:brain :brain :brain Giving people chloroquine for COVID19 is bad because it takes it away from people who actually need it for other things.
:brain :brain :brain :brain If the placebo effect is that strong just give people Flintstones vitamins and tell them it's chloroquine.
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 25, 2020, 09:44:13 PM
https://twitter.com/davidhogg111/status/1242921757419483139
Post by: benjipwns on March 25, 2020, 11:13:57 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 26, 2020, 12:50:14 AM
https://twitter.com/clairlemon/status/1241525063934861312
Post by: Oblivion on March 26, 2020, 01:23:22 AM
Post by: Momo on March 26, 2020, 01:32:28 AM
:dead
Post by: team filler on March 26, 2020, 01:56:00 AM
???hog fucker really was a plant :mueller
https://twitter.com/davidhogg111/status/1242921757419483139
Post by: Mandark on March 26, 2020, 11:06:31 PM
https://twitter.com/mikeduncan/status/1243186032763383815
Post by: BisMarckie on March 26, 2020, 11:25:19 PM
https://twitter.com/DouglasCarswell/status/1243156638586019841
FACT CHECK: If you think the Roman Republic ended due to the Gracchian reforms, which in itself is a pretty galaxy brain take, it was proto-crony capitalism if anything. :bolo
Not to mention that the leges gracchi didn’t have anything to do with UBI
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 27, 2020, 01:41:30 AM
https://twitter.com/DouglasCarswell/status/1243156638586019841
FACT CHECK: If you think the Roman Republic ended due to the Gracchian reforms, which in itself is a pretty galaxy brain take, it was proto-crony capitalism if anything. :bolo
Not to mention that the leges gracchi didn’t have anything to do with UBI
wingnut money printer goes brrrrr
Post by: Oblivion on March 27, 2020, 01:46:16 AM
https://twitter.com/mikeduncan/status/1243181724785356800
https://twitter.com/mikeduncan/status/1243186032763383815
you forgot to finish the story:
https://twitter.com/mikeduncan/status/1243246136149884929
Post by: Momo on March 27, 2020, 05:58:41 AM
https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1243302427698348033 (https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1243302427698348033)
https://twitter.com/trashkitten4201/status/1243380291869249537 (https://twitter.com/trashkitten4201/status/1243380291869249537)
Post by: team filler on March 27, 2020, 06:59:22 PM
Post by: EchoRin on March 27, 2020, 11:24:07 PM
https://twitter.com/mattdizwhitlock/status/1243723521299304448
So I decided to look at what article it might be refering to which I assume is this one:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/26/health/coronavirus-hospitals-do-not-resuscitate-bn/index.html
Quote
Some other large hospital systems have been discussing issues around do-not-resuscitate orders, The Washington Post reported Wednesday night.
"It's true that there have been discussions abroad about how physicians must prioritize patients -- and it's my understanding that those will still be on a case-by-case basis," Dr. Darria Long Gillespie, senior vice president of clinical strategy at Sharecare and a clinical assistant professor at the University of Tennessee School of Medicine, wrote in an email on Wednesday.
I mean, It appears that what that news blurb said on the guys phone is correct.
Post by: VomKriege on March 28, 2020, 04:23:41 AM
https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/status/1243682256956395520
Must be the fabled Chinese bots ERA warned me about.
Post by: Nintex on March 28, 2020, 10:37:09 AM
https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1243628624198189056 (https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1243628624198189056)
Post by: VomKriege on March 28, 2020, 07:45:03 PM
:brain
Post by: curly on March 28, 2020, 09:09:31 PM
https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/1181032940840636416?lang=en
Post by: toku on March 28, 2020, 09:28:55 PM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1243930272015491074
:brain
he coulda just tweeted out "bless up" would have been way cooler
Post by: Tripon on March 28, 2020, 10:34:09 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 28, 2020, 11:48:10 PM
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1244085811466899459
:lucille
Post by: benjipwns on March 29, 2020, 01:14:37 AM
But all the guests need to be drunk too. :karen
Post by: benjipwns on March 29, 2020, 02:31:17 AM
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on March 29, 2020, 09:41:53 AM
Post by: samir on March 29, 2020, 09:45:44 AM
Post by: VomKriege on March 29, 2020, 10:18:03 AM
Is Brianna Wu trans or just a really ugly woman? Haven't really followed #gamergate
Benji & the Doxxers are convinced it's the former, she vehemently denies it / scrubs it.
She's not super bright either way.
Post by: D3RANG3D on March 29, 2020, 10:19:06 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 29, 2020, 12:22:24 PM
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on March 29, 2020, 06:30:32 PM
Post by: Tripon on March 29, 2020, 10:02:42 PM
So many questions...
Post by: shosta on March 29, 2020, 10:06:30 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 29, 2020, 10:08:42 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 29, 2020, 10:09:24 PM
Post by: Tripon on March 29, 2020, 10:33:31 PM
https://twitter.com/AshBCoffin/status/1244115036110573569
https://twitter.com/AshBCoffin/status/1244437711295053824
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 30, 2020, 12:10:07 AM
wouldn't trump be the one in charge of shutting things down, controlling information, instituting martial law, and so on
No, the Deep State is, read your Constitution.
Post by: Tripon on March 30, 2020, 12:01:37 PM
:lol
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 30, 2020, 12:03:29 PM
Is Brianna Wu trans or just a really ugly woman? Haven't really followed #gamergate
As someone who has said some pretty transphobic shit here over the years, yikes.
Post by: benjipwns on March 30, 2020, 07:25:43 PM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1244653508307177474
spoiler (click to show/hide)
he put MA in his fucking Twitter name :dead :dead :dead :dead
[close]
Post by: nachobro on March 30, 2020, 08:37:14 PM
Post by: curly on March 30, 2020, 09:45:13 PM
:thinking
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 30, 2020, 09:46:59 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 30, 2020, 09:47:54 PM
https://twitter.com/jennthetutor/status/1244800309769244672
Post by: VomKriege on March 31, 2020, 04:35:19 AM
https://twitter.com/soniagupta504/status/1244758050180935680
:thinking
https://twitter.com/Alc_ooo/status/1244784672778760192
Post by: VomKriege on March 31, 2020, 01:06:26 PM
Post by: VomKriege on March 31, 2020, 04:55:38 PM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1245089382895423489
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1245091493116813319
:brain :rethread :science
Post by: VomKriege on March 31, 2020, 05:03:33 PM
:picard
It's been called that for at least two months.
Post by: Tripon on March 31, 2020, 05:07:22 PM
Post by: VomKriege on March 31, 2020, 05:11:06 PM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1245022334383251456
Post by: VomKriege on March 31, 2020, 05:15:44 PM
Post by: VomKriege on March 31, 2020, 05:20:55 PM
https://twitter.com/Mark82190251/status/1245092700174659584
Ram Destroyer
@Mark82190251
The common sense man
https://twitter.com/Mark82190251/status/1244816246425686016
https://twitter.com/Mark82190251/status/1244794658477219840
https://twitter.com/Mark82190251/status/1244788828692459525
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 31, 2020, 05:42:56 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on March 31, 2020, 06:15:09 PM
Oh man, Obama and Bill Gates would have gotten away with spreading the corona virus if they hadn't accidentally filed a patent for it!
(https://www.grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/bill_gates_pandemic-1024x765.jpg)
Post by: shosta on March 31, 2020, 09:54:51 PM
boom headshot
Post by: nachobro on March 31, 2020, 10:00:37 PM
Post by: shosta on March 31, 2020, 11:06:35 PM
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/Aff4ryYiacUO4/source.gif)
Post by: Oblivion on April 01, 2020, 02:59:10 AM
on the other hand, symone's got way bigger tiddies :doge
Post by: Rufus on April 01, 2020, 03:00:53 AM
The first name it had was SARS-CoV-2, good job of figuring out google, Bill.virus: SARS-CoV-2
resulting disease: COVID-19
(https://i.imgur.com/2ZCilQr.gif)
Post by: VomKriege on April 01, 2020, 10:03:34 AM
Wow does Bill Mitchell know this
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1245325707162669056
Post by: Tripon on April 01, 2020, 10:11:29 AM
Post by: Tripon on April 01, 2020, 02:05:03 PM
:doge
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 01, 2020, 03:05:48 PM
Wow does Bill Mitchell know this
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1245325707162669056
Probably because it's TOO effective.
Post by: VomKriege on April 01, 2020, 04:34:48 PM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1245434117694554113
I know you might be fooled but he is not a doctor.
Should have guessed he was a Floridaman.
Post by: Nintex on April 01, 2020, 04:49:50 PM
"I can't believe all this information is kept hidden from us!"
Post by: shosta on April 01, 2020, 07:34:50 PM
god, I wish
Post by: shosta on April 01, 2020, 07:43:51 PM
Also the rape thing will be disregarded by most media outlets and so most people won't even hear about it.
Post by: OnlyRegret on April 01, 2020, 08:15:48 PM
Come election time, what exactly will Biden have to share about making a big impact during a time of crisis? Trump just has to make it seem like he made things not turn out as shitty as they could've to own the narrative.
Post by: OnlyRegret on April 01, 2020, 10:25:12 PM
https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1245096487773749248
Post by: benjipwns on April 01, 2020, 10:27:02 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on April 01, 2020, 10:28:17 PM
https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1245051937348882433
https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1245028023738474496
Post by: benjipwns on April 01, 2020, 10:34:17 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 01, 2020, 11:24:08 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on April 02, 2020, 12:48:06 AM
https://twitter.com/Alyssa_Milano/status/1245513846275461120
Post by: VomKriege on April 02, 2020, 02:39:31 AM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1245600939043483649
Who said Bill Mitchell doesn't wash hands as recommended by the CDC ? Just like Pilate in the Bible. :usacry
Post by: Momo on April 02, 2020, 07:44:22 AM
Y'know, I think we could do without this particular asshole
Post by: Momo on April 02, 2020, 07:47:33 AM
https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1245180361862152192 (https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1245180361862152192)
bitch you have recent pics of your fatass on twitter :dead
Post by: Momo on April 02, 2020, 07:51:44 AM
:rofl
:rofl
:rofl
:rofl
Post by: VomKriege on April 02, 2020, 10:11:38 AM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1245705675860332544
I am not a doctor but we should really promote that still under-testing medication for an illness that I don't believe exist !
Post by: Tripon on April 02, 2020, 01:12:12 PM
:dead
Post by: Rufus on April 02, 2020, 02:20:08 PM
Post by: VomKriege on April 02, 2020, 02:24:13 PM
Anthony Fauci is the worst economist ever !
:neogaf
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 02, 2020, 02:32:55 PM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1245760308230184961
Anthony Fauci is the worst economist ever !
:neogaf
"But I'm not an economist. I'm just a layman putting 2 and 2 together and being confused when everyone says its 5."
Post by: nachobro on April 02, 2020, 02:38:52 PM
Post by: VomKriege on April 02, 2020, 03:38:43 PM
HUGE!
Trump mannerisms. That and the near permanent tweet storm.
I don't know how this moron reconciles the obvious admiration for Donald, just a flu-media-hysteria narrative, with the fact that Trump officially endorsed the 100k to 200k fatalities estimate. The king being misled by his treacherous ministers I suppose... While still having the expertise to know that Chloroquin is the miracle cure before tests are completed.
But he is, somehow, and he's not alone...
Post by: Nintex on April 02, 2020, 06:57:57 PM
Wank dad content you can actually wank to :dizzy
Quote
Ashley, in the role of the Riley Reid character, has defied all pornographic convention by embracing body positivity, forgoing plastic surgery and opting for natural body hair at times. Additionally she has made a social statement by doing a popular artistic scene which makes a political and business case for greater transsexual acceptance. Her main tool appears to be a palpable human decency and sweetness coupled to an uncanny ability to assess, manage and survive extreme business risk within a poorly understood industry that has confounded all expectations.
Post by: VomKriege on April 02, 2020, 07:17:15 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 02, 2020, 07:34:51 PM
Post by: Mandark on April 02, 2020, 07:54:24 PM
This thread isn't really about the Intellectual Wank Dad anymore. I'd say shut it down but it soaks up a good number of "look at THIS tweet!" posts which don't really need to get added to the main politix thread.
Post by: Tripon on April 02, 2020, 07:58:53 PM
He's one of the early Trump superfans from Twitter.
This thread isn't really about the Intellectual Wank Dad anymore. I'd say shut it down but it soaks up a good number of "look at THIS tweet!" posts which don't really need to get added to the main politix thread.
Movie Bob would consider himself to be an intellectual! :steiner
Post by: Mandark on April 02, 2020, 08:09:34 PM
Post by: curly on April 02, 2020, 08:19:26 PM
Post by: curly on April 02, 2020, 08:41:34 PM
I want to post more Matt Stoller in here but his takes are so uniquely dumb they make me mad. I think about how much schooling and money went into letting him have a voice and it's very depressing
Fave Matt Stoller moments:
When he got into a huge fight with Adam Johnson on twitter over the New Dealer administrations' foreign policy records and argued that with the minor exceptions of the Korean and Vietnamese wars they were humane and noninterventionist
When he tried to preach the merits of small business ownership to Felix from Chapo
Post by: shosta on April 02, 2020, 08:42:06 PM
I think of it as the dumb punditry thread now but there Bill Mitchell stuff is very overdoneyeah they were hilarious at first but now it's just sad and I'm seeing them twice a day. moratorium pls
Post by: Mandark on April 02, 2020, 08:45:36 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on April 02, 2020, 08:56:45 PM
I think of it as the dumb punditry thread now but there Bill Mitchell stuff is very overdoneyeah they were hilarious at first but now it's just sad and I'm seeing them twice a day. moratorium pls
You sure, his take of "minimizing" Sars 2 by implying the case count is inflated but the virus is just super lethal is a real novel downplay for a novel virus.
Post by: curly on April 02, 2020, 09:02:18 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on April 02, 2020, 09:03:42 PM
https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1245711239839350784
Followed up by IQ-angling in another argument :neogaf
https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1245860196997459969
Post by: Mandark on April 02, 2020, 09:19:52 PM
He's one of those strange creatures of the American radical left* who has created his own ideological niche. As far as I understand he thinks Jeffersonian political economy is a continuous tradition in American history and still relevant in the present day, and he interprets everything through that lens. Marxism, socialism, etc are foreign evils. China is a fascist big bad because they threaten this ideal American system of small scale independent producers. I guess I would call him a nationalist? He doesn't seem to care much about the interests of people in other countries.
He has a fixation on antitrust policy and monopoly power to the point where he's pretty dismissive of the antiwar movement, civil rights, even the welfare state. He's definitely got a whiff of /stupidpol to him, but it's not just the usual economic vs. cultural issues: it's trust-busting vs. everything else. He had a big Atlantic piece where he waxes nostalgic for Vietnam War-supporting dixiecrats because dammit they were populists. Pretty much handwaved objections to the war itself, so not surprised he's suddenly gone all Yellow Peril about China.
My favorite recent dumb Twitter exchange of his was when he defended the term "cosmopolitan elite."
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/1152196875283554309
https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/1152200278260756480
https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/1152200278260756480
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Post by: Mandark on April 02, 2020, 09:21:11 PM
Freddie DeBoer.
Post by: curly on April 02, 2020, 09:27:42 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 02, 2020, 09:28:15 PM
Who is this Bill Mitchell and why do you guys keep posting him in every thread?
Former Donkey Kong world-record holder and hot sauce purveyor.
Post by: shosta on April 02, 2020, 09:56:48 PM
I guess I would call him a nationalist? He doesn't seem to care much about the interests of people in other countries.just glancing at this guy's feed
https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/1245817981197864960
looks like tucker carlson populism from where I'm standing. big corps bad, protect da culture, need moar guns
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on April 02, 2020, 10:16:47 PM
arriving at american exceptionalism from socdem principles is such a fun way of being an idiot though. it almost makes me wish more people would try concocting their own ideologies, just to add color to the punditsphere
Post by: benjipwns on April 02, 2020, 10:33:42 PM
Wait, don't pronounce that, let me come up with a better name first.
Post by: shosta on April 02, 2020, 10:38:27 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on April 02, 2020, 11:30:12 PM
Can I interest you in a pamphlet on benjism?
Wait, don't pronounce that, let me come up with a better name first.
Jake is taking all the pamphlets. You do benjism, I'll do (another) bastardized socialism.
Post by: VomKriege on April 03, 2020, 02:27:42 AM
A lot of the wank dads have joined obvious partisan outfits now and mutated to pundits, I'd say.
Post by: benjipwns on April 04, 2020, 12:32:51 AM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/brianschatz/status/1246232989329063938
[close]
Post by: team filler on April 04, 2020, 11:12:12 AM
;)
Post by: team filler on April 04, 2020, 03:30:39 PM
we back :rejoice
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 04, 2020, 03:33:16 PM
Post by: team filler on April 04, 2020, 03:40:36 PM
Post by: team filler on April 04, 2020, 04:38:21 PM
the gays win again! :lol
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 04, 2020, 08:35:48 PM
Post by: VomKriege on April 04, 2020, 09:04:52 PM
Post by: Tripon on April 04, 2020, 09:23:02 PM
Is that supposed to be Bill Gates ? Fauci ?
I think it's Fauci. Bill Gates is actually spending potentially billions in order to basically do a guess and check model with a vaccine. Funny the market response to be inefficient in order to hope one thing works.
https://twitter.com/michael_nielsen/status/1246457825720553472
Post by: team filler on April 05, 2020, 02:51:08 AM
Post by: VomKriege on April 05, 2020, 03:02:25 AM
Is that supposed to be Bill Gates ? Fauci ?
I think it's Fauci. Bill Gates is actually spending potentially billions in order to basically do a guess and check model with a vaccine. Funny the market response to be inefficient in order to hope one thing works.
Garrison is totally the type to believe Gates secretly patented COVID19 and masterminded a white depopulation scheme though.
At first I even wondered if it was supposed to be Sanders, his ability to do recognizable caricature characters is... Not super consistent.
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on April 05, 2020, 10:57:38 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/h8tYc4H.jpg)
Final Fantasy 7 Remake Episode 2 game of the forever?
Post by: Mandark on April 05, 2020, 11:20:01 AM
Is that supposed to be Bill Gates ? Fauci ?
I think it's Fauci.
It's Gates. There's a Windows logo on his jacket.
Post by: Tripon on April 05, 2020, 11:54:51 AM
:lol
Post by: VomKriege on April 05, 2020, 11:59:38 AM
https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1245588774999822338
Post by: Momo on April 05, 2020, 03:39:16 PM
:lol
Post by: benjipwns on April 06, 2020, 01:21:00 AM
only safe for Mr Gilhaney
https://twitter.com/Ad_Inifinitum/status/1246495748033777664
[close]
Post by: EchoRin on April 06, 2020, 01:25:52 AM
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1246139220588142593Cannot wait. It will put this thread back on track for a good year and half. Plus the book tour and then probably a resurgence of him giving speeches in auditoriums. Don't disappoint me J Beep.
we back :rejoice
Post by: Momo on April 06, 2020, 01:57:44 AM
https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1244751704211537921https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WZmSJYYxPk
https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1245180361862152192 (https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1245180361862152192)
bitch you have recent pics of your fatass on twitter :dead
@36:15 my favorite antagonists of movieblob has discovered this tweet :dead
Post by: Momo on April 06, 2020, 02:21:14 AM
https://twitter.com/mugrimm/status/1246297040138784770The comment scroll here is amazing, also Tulsi's booty :lawd
;)
Post by: Momo on April 06, 2020, 04:24:08 AM
https://twitter.com/SC0RSESE/status/1247030175486730241
Post by: EchoRin on April 06, 2020, 05:15:53 AM
Post by: Oblivion on April 06, 2020, 07:23:00 AM
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1246139220588142593
lobster Daddy made it back from rehab just in time to write a book about how not to wind up there (again) :bow
Post by: Oblivion on April 06, 2020, 07:23:11 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 06, 2020, 07:25:11 AM
What a fuckin loser :tocry
Post by: Momo on April 06, 2020, 08:34:43 AM
We Need to Talk About Ezrathe more i hear about this shit the crazier he sounds lmao
Post by: OnlyRegret on April 06, 2020, 03:12:43 PM
this overrules it
https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1246812006960726018
Post by: OnlyRegret on April 06, 2020, 03:13:41 PM
Post by: VomKriege on April 06, 2020, 03:33:03 PM
fuck yo moratorium
this overrules it
https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1246812006960726018
The "relax, 360k babies were born today" he tweeted a few days ago could be in that selection too.
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 06, 2020, 05:02:16 PM
Post by: benjipwns on April 06, 2020, 10:28:51 PM
https://twitter.com/rosemcgowan/status/1247252442812690433
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on April 07, 2020, 04:00:00 AM
Post by: benjipwns on April 07, 2020, 04:59:27 AM
Post by: Mandark on April 07, 2020, 05:07:29 AM
Post by: Momo on April 07, 2020, 06:46:27 AM
CAT FIGHTyour charmed life will come to end now
https://twitter.com/rosemcgowan/status/1247252442812690433
Post by: VomKriege on April 07, 2020, 07:26:42 AM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1246173071502868481
Post by: Momo on April 07, 2020, 08:11:41 AM
Post by: VomKriege on April 07, 2020, 12:59:00 PM
https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1246631214506823680
Post by: VomKriege on April 07, 2020, 01:01:08 PM
She's gonna go all Kung Fu Coughing Master on Trump then make all her own stunts in a daring escape.
:rethread
Post by: team filler on April 07, 2020, 01:02:49 PM
SUPERIOR NORDICS :rethread:piss :swiss :piss2
https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1246631214506823680
Post by: Tripon on April 07, 2020, 01:32:42 PM
https://twitter.com/BobChipman_1981/status/1247560204415315968
https://twitter.com/BobChipman_1981/status/1247049655017496578
Movie Bob's personal twitter account is going to produce its own gems.
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 07, 2020, 02:32:42 PM
Post by: Tripon on April 07, 2020, 02:58:04 PM
What would you call this? Military Herd immunity? :doge
https://twitter.com/marwilliamson/status/1246990122576478208
Post by: Momo on April 07, 2020, 03:04:10 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on April 07, 2020, 04:16:38 PM
https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1246966013771554817
What would you call this? Military Herd immunity? :doge
https://twitter.com/marwilliamson/status/1246990122576478208
:heart
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 07, 2020, 11:09:40 PM
Post by: benjipwns on April 07, 2020, 11:18:09 PM
Quote
Let us try to restore sanity with five questions that we should ask Chinese President Xi Jinping the next time we Zoom, FaceTime, Google Hangout or WeChat him.
Quote
Now, I don’t expect straight answers to these questions, any more than we got straight answers from the Soviet Communist Party after Chernobyl.
But I do think we need keep asking them
Post by: shosta on April 08, 2020, 12:01:24 AM
Quote
In Liu Cixin’s extraordinary science-fiction novel The Three-Body Problem, China recklessly creates, then ingeniously solves, an existential threat to humanity, by establishing contact with the planet Trisolaris and then thwarting a Trisolaran invasion.
I remember thinking it was an odd plot structure when I read it last year. This is not how sci-fi plots work in western literature. The bad guys (the Germans, the Russians, the Chinese, or just the aliens) do bad stuff and then the good guys (they speak English) save the world. One of the many things I learnt from reading the novel is that, in this respect as in so many others, China is different. It’s okay for China to sicken the world in order to save it.
he hasn't ever encountered the hubris -> redemption archetype? :lol
Post by: Momo on April 08, 2020, 02:17:12 AM
this isnt as clever as you think Blob, in fact it just shows your own ignorance lmao
Post by: VomKriege on April 08, 2020, 02:22:56 AM
QuoteIn Liu Cixin’s extraordinary science-fiction novel The Three-Body Problem, China recklessly creates, then ingeniously solves, an existential threat to humanity, by establishing contact with the planet Trisolaris and then thwarting a Trisolaran invasion.
I remember thinking it was an odd plot structure when I read it last year. This is not how sci-fi plots work in western literature. The bad guys (the Germans, the Russians, the Chinese, or just the aliens) do bad stuff and then the good guys (they speak English) save the world. One of the many things I learnt from reading the novel is that, in this respect as in so many others, China is different. It’s okay for China to sicken the world in order to save it.
he hasn't ever encountered the hubris -> redemption archetype? :lol
Also haven't apparently read many Western science fiction stories without "good" and "bad guys".
Post by: VomKriege on April 08, 2020, 02:33:08 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yts2F44RqFw
Oh god the beginning : "This is how a normal hoo-man interaction occurs at a generic wage-generating center, presumably. I am very smart."
:smug
Post by: VomKriege on April 08, 2020, 04:55:36 AM
https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1247689428161552384
:nope Relaying official statistics from a foreign state without "independently verifying it".
:ohyeah Parroting medical advice from Trump despite no scientific studies having been completed yet.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 08, 2020, 01:26:43 PM
:dead
Post by: EchoRin on April 08, 2020, 04:23:55 PM
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/scottlucas/slavoj-zizeks-new-coronavirus-book-glamorizes-wuhans-misery
Post by: Nintex on April 08, 2020, 05:49:48 PM
Quote
comparing the pandemic to the finishing move that Uma Thurman's character uses at the end of Kill Bill: Volume 2: "the coronavirus epidemic is a kind of 'Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique' on the global capitalist system."
:rejoice
Post by: Oblivion on April 08, 2020, 11:24:23 PM
https://twitter.com/AshBCoffin/status/1248063780304687104
;)
Post by: Oblivion on April 09, 2020, 12:20:37 AM
https://twitter.com/ZaunAura/status/1247043853212889088
Post by: EchoRin on April 09, 2020, 12:23:57 AM
Post by: benjipwns on April 09, 2020, 12:36:21 AM
Post by: EchoRin on April 09, 2020, 12:49:54 AM
Now obviously you can find ugly characters, duh, but I knew what he was getting at.
Post by: benjipwns on April 09, 2020, 01:18:33 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/daWP0ps.png)
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1247799079221882880
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Post by: Momo on April 09, 2020, 02:21:20 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 09, 2020, 04:00:13 AM
Post by: Momo on April 09, 2020, 05:07:20 AM
how are you a movie critic :dead
Post by: Momo on April 09, 2020, 05:15:14 AM
Yes the people propping up Biden is only doing so in order to sneak in a democratic socialist or whatever it is you believe is a 21st century politician.
how are you a human with a brain :dead
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 10, 2020, 12:17:14 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on April 10, 2020, 07:06:25 PM
https://twitter.com/conspiracystuf2/status/1247716911326072833
Post by: EchoRin on April 10, 2020, 07:27:24 PM
Post by: Oblivion on April 10, 2020, 07:38:13 PM
(https://preview.redd.it/bt0zupkigsr41.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=6e7753c49e09cfc33828dc74aea080928b4ca5e5)
:neogaf
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 10, 2020, 07:41:39 PM
Post by: EchoRin on April 10, 2020, 07:42:35 PM
Post by: Tripon on April 10, 2020, 08:47:54 PM
Post by: EchoRin on April 11, 2020, 08:44:00 AM
Quote
So it was something of a surprise to learn, in early February, that Peterson had spent eight days in a medically induced coma at an unnamed clinic in Russia. Peterson’s daughter Mikhaila, a 28-year-old food blogger, posted a brief but dramatic video claiming that she and her father had traveled to Russia in early January seeking an unorthodox treatment for his physical dependence on the drug clonazepam. Dependency goes against the core tenets of Peterson’s philosophical brand: stoicism, self-reliance, the power of the will over circumstance and environment. “No one gets away with anything, ever, so take responsibility for your own life,” he admonished in his bestselling self-help book 12 Rules for Life.
Quote
According to Mikhaila, he nearly died several times during his medical ordeal. After weeks in intensive care, he was unable to speak or write and was taking anti-seizure medicine.
Quote
The picture that emerges is of a man who was trapped: He couldn’t tolerate the medication, and he couldn’t tolerate the withdrawal. Mikhaila told RT that her father was looking for a place that had the guts to detox him “cold turkey,” a place where doctors “aren’t influenced by the pharmaceutical companies.”
Apparently that’s how a man who didn’t want to use drugs traveled thousands of miles to be placed in a drug-induced coma. Mikhaila said that her father was diagnosed with pneumonia “upon arrival” in Russia. If that’s accurate, then his medically induced coma may have had nothing to do with benzodiazepine withdrawal. If pneumonia is so severe that it causes respiratory failure, the patient needs to go on a ventilator simply to breathe. Because it’s so unpleasant to be on a breathing machine in an intensive care unit, patients are usually heavily sedated.
Eh, pulling quotes out is boring. See the link for yourself.
Post by: benjipwns on April 11, 2020, 09:15:59 AM
rollMarianne :klob
https://twitter.com/conspiracystuf2/status/1247716911326072833
Post by: VomKriege on April 11, 2020, 10:49:52 AM
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1248794007112646656
:what
Post by: Tripon on April 11, 2020, 11:48:24 AM
https://newrepublic.com/article/156829/happened-jordan-petersonQuoteSo it was something of a surprise to learn, in early February, that Peterson had spent eight days in a medically induced coma at an unnamed clinic in Russia. Peterson’s daughter Mikhaila, a 28-year-old food blogger, posted a brief but dramatic video claiming that she and her father had traveled to Russia in early January seeking an unorthodox treatment for his physical dependence on the drug clonazepam. Dependency goes against the core tenets of Peterson’s philosophical brand: stoicism, self-reliance, the power of the will over circumstance and environment. “No one gets away with anything, ever, so take responsibility for your own life,” he admonished in his bestselling self-help book 12 Rules for Life.QuoteAccording to Mikhaila, he nearly died several times during his medical ordeal. After weeks in intensive care, he was unable to speak or write and was taking anti-seizure medicine.QuoteThe picture that emerges is of a man who was trapped: He couldn’t tolerate the medication, and he couldn’t tolerate the withdrawal. Mikhaila told RT that her father was looking for a place that had the guts to detox him “cold turkey,” a place where doctors “aren’t influenced by the pharmaceutical companies.”
Apparently that’s how a man who didn’t want to use drugs traveled thousands of miles to be placed in a drug-induced coma. Mikhaila said that her father was diagnosed with pneumonia “upon arrival” in Russia. If that’s accurate, then his medically induced coma may have had nothing to do with benzodiazepine withdrawal. If pneumonia is so severe that it causes respiratory failure, the patient needs to go on a ventilator simply to breathe. Because it’s so unpleasant to be on a breathing machine in an intensive care unit, patients are usually heavily sedated.
Eh, pulling quotes out is boring. See the link for yourself.
What if Jorp had the 'rona
Jordan Peterson being a vector for corona virus and shutting down Russia, motherland of Communism. :doge :brain :doge :brain :doge :brain :doge :brain
Post by: shosta on April 11, 2020, 11:51:15 AM
I don't know who this is but we vibingdidn't she write that epic bottomless mozzarella sticks story on Gawker?
Post by: shosta on April 11, 2020, 11:54:00 AM
Post by: Nintex on April 11, 2020, 01:43:44 PM
I'm staying in the tucker house.
What about you?
Post by: EchoRin on April 11, 2020, 02:35:02 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 11, 2020, 02:37:23 PM
Post by: Rufus on April 11, 2020, 03:11:03 PM
Holy shit Stephen Harper and Mike Row make videos for them? WTF.https://soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-64-mike-rowes-koch-backed-working-man-affectation
Post by: Momo on April 11, 2020, 03:50:28 PM
Post by: shosta on April 11, 2020, 04:06:13 PM
Post by: Tripon on April 11, 2020, 04:49:14 PM
House 6, Lauren Chen is hot as fuck. Would choke out Ben in the first 5 mins though
https://twitter.com/TheLaurenChen/status/1248791184677523456
https://twitter.com/TheLaurenChen/status/1241944161370157056
https://twitter.com/TheLaurenChen/status/1241945016915894272
Reminds me of some Chinese girls I know...
Post by: Tripon on April 12, 2020, 12:18:20 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/CWgGIZo.png)
Post by: Oblivion on April 12, 2020, 05:50:19 AM
https://newrepublic.com/article/156829/happened-jordan-petersonQuoteSo it was something of a surprise to learn, in early February, that Peterson had spent eight days in a medically induced coma at an unnamed clinic in Russia. Peterson’s daughter Mikhaila, a 28-year-old food blogger, posted a brief but dramatic video claiming that she and her father had traveled to Russia in early January seeking an unorthodox treatment for his physical dependence on the drug clonazepam. Dependency goes against the core tenets of Peterson’s philosophical brand: stoicism, self-reliance, the power of the will over circumstance and environment. “No one gets away with anything, ever, so take responsibility for your own life,” he admonished in his bestselling self-help book 12 Rules for Life.QuoteAccording to Mikhaila, he nearly died several times during his medical ordeal. After weeks in intensive care, he was unable to speak or write and was taking anti-seizure medicine.QuoteThe picture that emerges is of a man who was trapped: He couldn’t tolerate the medication, and he couldn’t tolerate the withdrawal. Mikhaila told RT that her father was looking for a place that had the guts to detox him “cold turkey,” a place where doctors “aren’t influenced by the pharmaceutical companies.”
Apparently that’s how a man who didn’t want to use drugs traveled thousands of miles to be placed in a drug-induced coma. Mikhaila said that her father was diagnosed with pneumonia “upon arrival” in Russia. If that’s accurate, then his medically induced coma may have had nothing to do with benzodiazepine withdrawal. If pneumonia is so severe that it causes respiratory failure, the patient needs to go on a ventilator simply to breathe. Because it’s so unpleasant to be on a breathing machine in an intensive care unit, patients are usually heavily sedated.
Eh, pulling quotes out is boring. See the link for yourself.
i don't know if jorp's brain is permanently fried (in the literal sense, not the "being a paranoid reactionary" sense), but i don't think he's remotely close to being back to normal since the only live video we have of him is driving around that RC car. until i have solid visual evidence, i'm going to assume for the moment that he's a walking vegetable.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 12, 2020, 05:54:46 AM
:derp
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on April 12, 2020, 06:54:06 AM
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on April 12, 2020, 07:19:53 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 12, 2020, 06:33:16 PM
wrong thread but happy easter
....unless?
Post by: shosta on April 12, 2020, 11:11:14 PM
Post by: Oblivion on April 13, 2020, 06:05:41 AM
this is the result of having one's political awakening during the advent of gamergate :brain
Post by: naff on April 13, 2020, 06:31:16 AM
roll
https://twitter.com/conspiracystuf2/status/1247716911326072833
(https://i.imgur.com/eHfsh4D.png)
had no idea, but figured out it caroline calloway and yeah. seems about right. though i've never dated a wannabe influencer who's made it like this.
Post by: Momo on April 14, 2020, 06:54:31 AM
I dont understand this property therefore I get to be as ignorant as I want about it :brain
Post by: Momo on April 14, 2020, 06:55:37 AM
https://twitter.com/BobChipman_1981/status/1249975236176609281 (https://twitter.com/BobChipman_1981/status/1249975236176609281)
fuck off Bob :doge :brain
Post by: Momo on April 14, 2020, 06:58:09 AM
this plot is dropped hours into the game Mcblob man :brain
Post by: Momo on April 14, 2020, 06:59:35 AM
imagine being this guy
Post by: Rufus on April 14, 2020, 08:06:21 AM
Yeah, the game stops literally saying "boundless exploitation bad, m'kay" as it shifts to Cloud finding himself and his personal conflict with Sephiroth takes center stage. It is a game for teens after all. The environmentalist themes are there though.
It's not a 'political game', whatever that means, but it's the most overtly political of that era of FF.
Post by: Momo on April 14, 2020, 08:11:49 AM
Post by: Rufus on April 14, 2020, 08:33:31 AM
VIII? Remind me. Only played it twice. I know there's open conflict, but nothing aside from that. I don't even remember who the involved parties are. :doge
Post by: nachobro on April 14, 2020, 08:58:52 AM
Where is Virgil Texas? :lolnow that the china virus is in full effect and his mission is complete he's been recalled back home ;)
Post by: nachobro on April 14, 2020, 10:04:55 AM
oh wait that's already what it is
Post by: VomKriege on April 14, 2020, 11:18:42 AM
https://twitter.com/JeremyDBoreing/status/1249708928088174592
:crybaby
Post by: thisismyusername on April 14, 2020, 12:53:44 PM
Where is Virgil Texas? :lol
Everyone has been asking it. It's a little concerning. Did he die in the NYC pandemic?
Post by: Mandark on April 14, 2020, 01:13:59 PM
:doge
Post by: nachobro on April 14, 2020, 01:38:41 PM
https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1249721693721055237
Post by: Tripon on April 14, 2020, 01:49:05 PM
Post by: Nintex on April 14, 2020, 01:54:35 PM
Gabe Newell, Kanye West, Arnold Schwarzenegger, David Hasselhoff, Jordan Belfort, Ashley Mathews, Larry Kudlow
Gabe would make a new Half Life
Kanye would make a song to get people to buy things again
Arnold would be the liason between the WH and State officials
David has a german sounding name for fiscal conservatism and already defeated communism once
Ashley would be hot and do press briefings to get everyone back to buying again also small business ;)
Larry Kudlow would just get drunk and go on Fox Business to do his magic
+20% GDP in a month BOOM
Post by: thisismyusername on April 14, 2020, 02:32:34 PM
wasn't sure if (future co-president) mcafee is a wank dad or politician but either way...gottem
https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1249721693721055237
:thinking
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html
Maybe that's why he met up with Epstein often?
Post by: Tripon on April 14, 2020, 04:57:28 PM
Posting Filler's content.
Post by: Momo on April 14, 2020, 06:02:14 PM
https://twitter.com/dpakman/status/1249878532081233920not sure if he's serious or playing his smarmy games, but he's kinda like this, he folds like merengue when he senses the winds changing
:dead
Post by: curly on April 14, 2020, 06:19:54 PM
:dead
Post by: Momo on April 14, 2020, 06:25:11 PM
Post by: Tripon on April 14, 2020, 07:44:37 PM
https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1250096257886031880
Post by: team filler on April 14, 2020, 07:53:21 PM
wasn't sure if (future co-president) mcafee is a wank dad or politician but either way...gottemI made that joke a messagboard some years ago and was sure it wasn't original then ::) might have been here :doge
https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1249721693721055237
Post by: team filler on April 14, 2020, 08:04:07 PM
:pimp
Post by: Tripon on April 14, 2020, 08:07:32 PM
Post by: EchoRin on April 14, 2020, 08:12:31 PM
*youtube clip of Bro Jogan*
Thank you so much for this. Haven't laughed this hard since the quarantine started. Bravo :clap
Post by: Oblivion on April 14, 2020, 10:59:36 PM
https://twitter.com/dpakman/status/1249878532081233920not sure if he's serious or playing his smarmy games, but he's kinda like this, he folds like merengue when he senses the winds changing
:dead
i'm not seeing the issue? has pakman said previously he was a bernie or bust guy? i never thought that was the case
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 15, 2020, 01:44:03 AM
.0000069%
Nice.
Post by: Momo on April 15, 2020, 03:05:20 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/g08hna/joe_rogan_explains_post_nut_syndrome_taken_from/*youtube clip of Bro Jogan*
Thank you so much for this. Haven't laughed this hard since the quarantine started. Bravo :clap
Post by: Momo on April 15, 2020, 03:06:57 AM
He said a few months ago he'd vote Biden if the Bernie thing goes south, so it's not a specific issue, but over the course of knowing of him and watching his shows he's been a bit fence sitty and flippity flop from the start.https://twitter.com/dpakman/status/1249878532081233920not sure if he's serious or playing his smarmy games, but he's kinda like this, he folds like merengue when he senses the winds changing
:dead
i'm not seeing the issue? has pakman said previously he was a bernie or bust guy? i never thought that was the case
Post by: benjipwns on April 15, 2020, 03:14:27 AM
https://twitter.com/BobChipman_1981/status/1250163576003846145
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://i.imgur.com/iAU3lRL.jpg)
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Post by: Momo on April 15, 2020, 03:24:29 AM
Post by: VomKriege on April 15, 2020, 04:06:36 AM
But we come here EVERY DAY officer ! :karen
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1250300084417204230
Post by: benjipwns on April 15, 2020, 04:23:59 AM
Post by: VomKriege on April 15, 2020, 06:34:11 AM
Post by: VomKriege on April 15, 2020, 06:40:56 AM
Reading the responses, it means many things Ben.
Post by: EchoRin on April 15, 2020, 06:45:07 AM
I guess this Trump guy is alright.
Post by: VomKriege on April 15, 2020, 06:58:30 AM
Don't listen to or care for Chapo but that made me laugh.
Oh :nsfw I guess.
Post by: Momo on April 15, 2020, 08:40:04 AM
Post by: VomKriege on April 15, 2020, 09:03:47 AM
what's chapo's deal anyway? have never interacted by any of their media and i see them brought up alot
Figurehead of so-called "Dirtbag Left" : "A left-wing political faction that eschews respectability politics to convey a more vulgar socialist message, emphasizing action over political correctness." according to Wiktionary. As far as I understand it means they do dirty jokes and that their brand of leftism care more for class than idpol.
Best thing since sliced bread or a bunch of petit-bourgeois whites larping, depending on who you ask.
Post by: VomKriege on April 15, 2020, 10:00:00 AM
Post by: Momo on April 15, 2020, 10:11:42 AM
no.
Post by: EchoRin on April 15, 2020, 11:06:09 AM
https://www.amazon.com/Vice-Dos-Donts-Magazines-Critiques/dp/0446692824/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=vice+do+and+don%27t&qid=1586963223&s=books&sr=1-2
Shit was fire.
Post by: team filler on April 15, 2020, 03:45:46 PM
drag him, bb :-[
Post by: team filler on April 15, 2020, 04:35:06 PM
:thinking
Post by: team filler on April 15, 2020, 05:51:04 PM
you don't rig the primary for bide unless you want to lose :thinking
Post by: team filler on April 15, 2020, 06:50:50 PM
;)
Post by: Momo on April 16, 2020, 09:14:06 AM
https://twitter.com/BlastCero/status/1250678027652001797
Post by: Rufus on April 16, 2020, 09:21:06 AM
Post by: VomKriege on April 16, 2020, 09:24:10 AM
Post by: Oblivion on April 16, 2020, 09:10:35 PM
https://twitter.com/LitAnscombe/status/1250892460059959296
Post by: Oblivion on April 16, 2020, 10:09:08 PM
So...she's posting her videos on his social media and responding to questions for him? He never made it out of Russia, did he?
i'm tellin' ya, the guy is at best a walking vegetable right now
Post by: Tripon on April 16, 2020, 10:10:23 PM
Seth Abramson still sucks.
Post by: VomKriege on April 17, 2020, 11:01:40 AM
Post by: VomKriege on April 17, 2020, 11:11:18 AM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1250936735611138049
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1251131138732670982
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 17, 2020, 11:47:19 AM
Aliens blow up the White House and Jeff Goldblum has the USB stick we need to kill them all, but they’re sexy green Star Trek aliens. What do we do?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 17, 2020, 11:47:58 AM
Post by: Tripon on April 17, 2020, 01:03:15 PM
:dead
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 17, 2020, 02:06:17 PM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1251131138732670982
huge if true
Post by: Mandark on April 17, 2020, 02:54:14 PM
Certainly a great metaphor for why we need to reopen Dave & Buster's.
Post by: Nintex on April 17, 2020, 04:32:26 PM
Quote
What do we do?
We become pen pals with Tojo? :trumps
We never really liked Pearl Harbor anyway? :trumps
'
It was up the state to defend itself this has nothing to do with the Federal government :trumps
Post by: Tripon on April 17, 2020, 04:54:15 PM
:dead
Post by: benjipwns on April 17, 2020, 10:58:19 PM
This is the only source for this I found right away:
:dead
Quote from: https://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/2012/05/chinas_secret_it_owes_american.html
The story begins nearly 100 years ago, in 1913, when the government of China began issuing bonds to foreign investors and governments for infrastructure work to modernize the country. As the country fell into civil war in 1927, paying these debts became increasingly difficult and the government fell into default. Even so, in April 1938, the Nationalist government of China began to issue U.S.-dollar denominated bonds to finance the war against Japan's brutal invasion.So we just need someone who holds these debt instruments to sue Taiwan in a Chinese court?
Locked in a pitched battle for survival, the government issued these bonds into 1940. As part of its wartime financial aid, the U.S. government further provided a $500 million credit to China in March 1942, shipping gold there and helping to stabilize the currency. In return, it appears that the U.S. government redeemed some of these dollar-denominated bonds. But China doesn't appear to have repaid this debt either, according to State Department records, and the declaration of the People's Republic of China in 1949 ended decades of political, military and financial cooperation.
While successor governments are usually bound by the debts of predecessor governments, the new Communist government refused to pay any of these claims. The issue lay dormant for decades, just as the bilateral relationship did. Then, in 1979, as part of normalizing relations, Washington released government financial claims regarding the expropriation of American property and appears to have dropped the matter of the war debt entirely. However, it is one thing for government decision-makers to let go of government debt, however questionable that is.
And it is entirely another thing for individual citizens to press their claims.
Some U.S. investors tried to sue the Chinese government in the 1980s and 1990s. However, the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act makes it very hard for any U.S. citizen to sue a foreign government in U.S. courts because the law generally says that U.S. courts do not have jurisdiction.
Quote
Further, in Taiwanese press accounts Chinese officials have indicated, in fact, that they might pay the United States -- as part of a negotiation over the final status of Taiwan.oh I see...
Post by: Tripon on April 18, 2020, 12:18:44 AM
Cursedimage.jpg
Post by: VomKriege on April 18, 2020, 07:40:15 AM
Post by: curly on April 18, 2020, 03:07:35 PM
Perfect summation of Yglesias
Post by: Momo on April 18, 2020, 03:57:11 PM
You tweet 3000 times a day bob lmao
Post by: team filler on April 18, 2020, 03:58:43 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/7lcbtCo.png)
Post by: Momo on April 18, 2020, 04:03:56 PM
https://twitter.com/BobChipman_1981/status/1251311147791376390 (https://twitter.com/BobChipman_1981/status/1251311147791376390?s=19)
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 18, 2020, 04:21:03 PM
Post by: Momo on April 18, 2020, 04:24:47 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 18, 2020, 04:28:09 PM
Post by: VomKriege on April 18, 2020, 07:56:38 PM
Post by: Momo on April 18, 2020, 08:09:49 PM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1251183147796123648speaking of sad irredeemable people, for real what is this guys thing with women giving birth, is there some weird pornhub trend I'm unaware of?
Post by: VomKriege on April 18, 2020, 08:10:41 PM
Post by: Nintex on April 18, 2020, 08:12:33 PM
Nurse: "The odds don't look good, you have pneumonia we will get a ventilator soon"
@StefanMolyneux: "... can I ask you a question?"
Nurse: "Anything"
@StefanMolyneux: "I assume you are mid 30's are you aware about 80% of your eggs have already vanished?"
Dr. Bard: "He didn't make it huh?"
Nurse: "NO HE DIDN'T"
Post by: OnlyRegret on April 18, 2020, 10:10:49 PM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1251183147796123648speaking of sad irredeemable people, for real what is this guys thing with women giving birth, is there some weird pornhub trend I'm unaware of?
he's somehow a nazi libertarian blend
if you append "white" where needed things will click, for instance, (white) women eggs and reduce (white) abortions
of course it is only women who need to be restricted! (white) men get libertarianism
Post by: EchoRin on April 18, 2020, 10:14:39 PM
Kind of like the old comic "haha. I was just pretending to be slow*"
*self censoring cuck influenced by post-marxist dogma should have used the word "distinguished mentally-challenged fellow".
Post by: OnlyRegret on April 18, 2020, 10:33:16 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on April 18, 2020, 10:36:15 PM
:aah
https://twitter.com/GandalftheWhi19/status/1246182777025892353
https://twitter.com/GandalftheWhi19/status/1245800561540243456
Post by: EchoRin on April 18, 2020, 10:39:56 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 18, 2020, 10:45:00 PM
Post by: EchoRin on April 19, 2020, 12:50:06 AM
Crazy how much his daughter looks like young Varg. Hope his children turn out ok cause... :-\ kids tend to be sponges. Hopefully their teenage rebellion will cause them to question their parents ideas.
Post by: VomKriege on April 19, 2020, 08:24:31 AM
:klob
Post by: Momo on April 19, 2020, 01:29:21 PM
Varg's daughters will be fucking black dudes, arabs and romas for fucking sho. That shit is inevitable and I can't wait till his melt down.he's going to kill a bunch of brown folk if this happens :(
Post by: VomKriege on April 19, 2020, 01:33:13 PM
Varg's daughters will be fucking black dudes, arabs and romas for fucking sho. That shit is inevitable and I can't wait till his melt down.he's going to kill a bunch of brown folk if this happens :(
Another isolated tragic incident of mental illness.
Post by: Momo on April 19, 2020, 02:24:23 PM
I wonder if he could take a Roma in a knife fight. He does have a confirmed kill, but Romas probably have 40 unreported mercings :gopnikVarg's daughters will be fucking black dudes, arabs and romas for fucking sho. That shit is inevitable and I can't wait till his melt down.he's going to kill a bunch of brown folk if this happens :(
Don't worry, his daughters will kill him in retaliation and thus the circle closes.
Post by: Oblivion on April 19, 2020, 03:44:00 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 19, 2020, 04:23:06 PM
:stahp
Post by: curly on April 19, 2020, 04:26:45 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 19, 2020, 04:34:27 PM
Post by: shosta on April 19, 2020, 04:37:03 PM
that stoller guy sounds familiar but what exactly is his deal?https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/1251883112625311746
[in the most solemn voice I can muster] we must fight racism with racism
Post by: team filler on April 19, 2020, 04:53:48 PM
Varg's daughters will be fucking black dudes, arabs and romas for fucking sho. That shit is inevitable and I can't wait till his melt down.:drool
Post by: VomKriege on April 19, 2020, 04:58:40 PM
Stoller hates commies, he wants us to live like Thomas Jefferson (minus the slaves presumably)
Well, we tried but it wasn't working out after a couple of years sooooo...
Post by: VomKriege on April 19, 2020, 06:48:31 PM
- I'm sorry sir, this is Seamus of the tax division in Dublin. You need to call customer support.
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 19, 2020, 09:36:32 PM
https://twitter.com/AriFleischer/status/1251989429046120454
:neogaf
Post by: benjipwns on April 19, 2020, 11:28:33 PM
he's somehow a nazi libertarian blendhe actually was a full blown anarchist for the most part, he gave up the anarchism and embraced the powerful state because anarchism has no plan for ensuring white dominance
if you append "white" where needed things will click, for instance, (white) women eggs and reduce (white) abortions
of course it is only women who need to be restricted! (white) men get libertarianism
he came to this conclusion by visiting Poland for a white supremacist march and seeing how clean the streets were in comparison to Ontario or wherever he lives in Canada
the breeding thing was the start because he was concerned about statists of darker colors outbreeding anarchists of whiter colors, people pointed out to him that the rich of all races just don't breed as much as the poor of all races and his conclusion was this whole thing
Post by: benjipwns on April 20, 2020, 12:24:27 AM
Bob is likely the saddest most irredeemable person I've ever come across in my many years of websiting as on the internetMy favorite part about Film Robert maybe. He didn't get a green screen or sheet. No, he painted his "basement apartment" wall green. And then he painted the doorknob because someone pointed out it was appearing in his videos.
Post by: Nintex on April 20, 2020, 03:51:44 AM
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 20, 2020, 09:26:08 AM
https://twitter.com/JRubinBlogger/status/1252012223435886593 (https://twitter.com/JRubinBlogger/status/1252012223435886593)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPS3-JrhFQY
Post by: OnlyRegret on April 20, 2020, 11:50:23 PM
https://twitter.com/Education4Libs/status/1252346880526147588
https://twitter.com/Education4Libs/status/1250566490014834688
https://twitter.com/Education4Libs/status/1247894372017790977
Post by: shosta on April 21, 2020, 02:11:30 AM
:dead
Post by: VomKriege on April 21, 2020, 02:19:36 AM
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/what-we-learned-from-ben-shapiros-61013395/ (https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/what-we-learned-from-ben-shapiros-61013395/)
spoiler (click to show/hide)
"He was the star player of the school's team. No one knew his real name."
:brain
:brain
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Post by: shosta on April 21, 2020, 02:37:37 AM
Post by: VomKriege on April 21, 2020, 02:45:03 AM
Star basketball player when I was in highschool was this huge black guy we called Black Mamba. It was definitely a joke about his dick even though we didn't tell the teachers that. ...I can't remember his real name.
Do you also self-insert in muscular men who went through a late and sudden growth in their height ?
Because you might have a good career as a media pundit ahead of you, son !
Post by: benjipwns on April 21, 2020, 03:04:00 AM
https://twitter.com/BobChipman_1981/status/1251878231189438466
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on April 21, 2020, 03:32:09 AM
the hawleyite conservatives “rethinking” has been sparked by pro-natalist anxieties of a brown america. its also largely being conducted and funded by the same old cast of characters. more of a rebranding than anything
Post by: Tripon on April 21, 2020, 03:59:40 PM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1252638313837666304
:dead
Post by: Momo on April 21, 2020, 04:03:47 PM
wankceptiongalaxy brain
https://twitter.com/BobChipman_1981/status/1251878231189438466
Post by: curly on April 21, 2020, 07:02:56 PM
:preach
Post by: shosta on April 22, 2020, 03:28:20 AM
https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/1251551892049727490
https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/1251551895241601024
Progressives! please stop talking to immigrants and start talking to bankers!
This guy's fucking brain is broken. The whole thread is whack. The only way you develop like this is if you literally never talk to other human beings about the ideas you have.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
also, it looks like Matt is kind of an asshole
https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/1251551897225396228
https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/1251551897225396228
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Post by: jakefromstatefarm on April 22, 2020, 03:37:05 AM
Post by: benjipwns on April 22, 2020, 03:37:41 AM
https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/1251551908218748928
Post by: shosta on April 22, 2020, 03:44:36 AM
14 doesnt sound too wrong if you read it out of context enough :idontI know we all love our bromides about the quintessential career politician being nothing but an empty suit but you have to have a leviathan ego to say you're the only guy in the whole party who's ever read a book. Or can think thoughts
Post by: benjipwns on April 22, 2020, 03:49:36 AM
(https://ebth-com-production.imgix.net/2017/02/19/12/44/21/b4f6f5af-cc31-4b17-969c-b61851e4f54f/HNP_3788.jpg)
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71gCcoZAyHL.jpg)
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Post by: VomKriege on April 22, 2020, 04:06:32 AM
14 doesnt sound too wrong if you read it out of context enough :idontI know we all love our bromides about the quintessential career politician being nothing but an empty suit but you have to have a leviathan ego to say you're the only guy in the whole party who's ever read a book. Or can think thoughts
Also funny when coming from a Twitter post. The place for long form thinking and definitely not about networking.
:curious
Post by: VomKriege on April 22, 2020, 04:16:05 AM
So close yet so far.
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on April 22, 2020, 04:19:04 AM
I know we all love our bromides about the quintessential career politician being nothing but an empty suit but you have to have a leviathan ego to say you're the only guy in the whole party who's ever read a book.yes. i dont think most congresspeople give a shit about the fixtures of the intellectual sphere, though. using the term intellectual really broadly to include even matt stoller
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Or can think thoughtsi wouldnt’ve thought that ‘liberal politicians are thinking uncritically/incorrectly about xyz’ would be a hard sell for you. thats true but the tweet’s obv still wrong about it being of first importance.
Post by: Mandark on April 22, 2020, 05:49:37 AM
Post by: VomKriege on April 22, 2020, 06:40:54 AM
Post by: Momo on April 22, 2020, 10:53:35 AM
https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1252594602802102272
what's this about libertarians and pedophilia?
BONUS: An actual reasonable libertarian in the comments
Post by: Brehvolution on April 22, 2020, 11:03:28 AM
found a new gem account
https://twitter.com/Education4Libs/status/1250566490014834688
https://www.sltrib.com/news/nation-world/2020/04/21/va-coronavirus-study/
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A malaria drug widely touted by President Donald Trump for treating the new coronavirus showed no benefit in a large analysis of its use in U.S. veterans hospitals. There were more deaths among those given hydroxychloroquine versus standard care, researchers reported.
Womp womp
Any else notice that the push to use hydrchloroquine has vanished from conservative media and dipshit donnie's daily briefings?
Post by: VomKriege on April 22, 2020, 11:05:59 AM
14 doesnt sound too wrong if you read it out of context enough :idontI know we all love our bromides about the quintessential career politician being nothing but an empty suit but you have to have a leviathan ego to say you're the only guy in the whole party who's ever read a book. Or can think thoughts
I think it's pretty great that a guy who gets mocked on the internet for having dumb takes that are a result of an overpriced education and a willingness to "think outside the box" is suggesting that people with actual power do the same.
Don't be so savage to shosta ! :brazilcry
Post by: team filler on April 22, 2020, 05:44:29 PM
Post by: Rufus on April 22, 2020, 07:17:08 PM
Post by: shosta on April 23, 2020, 03:27:01 PM
Post by: VomKriege on April 23, 2020, 03:45:37 PM
So is Jordan Peterson dead or what?
:whatsthedeal
I would guess not. Dead means death certificate, I think we'd know. That'd be a weird lie to try to maintain, I don't think there's any reason to do that even assuming the worst motives.
The daughter's story is that he was severely disabled but was slowly recovering in a vague and non quantifiable way. Most likely he's gravely diminished and for all we know it might for years or permanent. Not unlike M.Schumacher.
Post by: Momo on April 23, 2020, 03:46:21 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 23, 2020, 04:08:05 PM
Post by: Nintex on April 23, 2020, 05:46:45 PM
Raging transphobia gamergate :reeeee
Post by: Tripon on April 23, 2020, 06:05:24 PM
https://twitter.com/broodwars64/status/1251317490069786625
Post by: VomKriege on April 23, 2020, 06:50:49 PM
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1253400923637940224
Apparently the galaxy 4D chess brain he put forth in the replies is that unionization would be easier in chain restaurants or something ?
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1253402763431682050
Strikes me as, huh, incredibly optimistic and myopic ?
Union support can scale down to small level, the Paris "dames-pipi" ("lady peepee" the janitors operating the toll in some public toilets) apparently hold a lot of power relative to their size in FO, one of big unions here, despite each operating in workplace with small staff and being a bit of a vanishing relic (you only see that in train stations anymore).
Food industry is one where even more concentration seems not desirable for a variety of reasons (food quality and not just in a :snob way, but a very real :dead way), even for the promise of accepting unionization ( :juicy). There's plenty of shady shit going on in small restaurants alright but you could address it more simply by not having toothless minimum wage, labor and sanitary inspections.
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 23, 2020, 07:05:02 PM
Post by: VomKriege on April 23, 2020, 07:14:32 PM
France's restaurant workers are unionized because of all of the Olive Gardens in Paris.
Anecdotally, it's true you'll hear more often of union pickets in front of a Paris McDonald's. Probably because of the larger staff in any location than in regular restaurants. Overall, I'm not certain what unions managed to extract but it was certainly not enough to make a position there suddenly better than in any small business restaurant even with the non-negligible risk of having an extra abusive and exploitative boss.
https://twitter.com/BronzeHammer/status/1253424744746979330
:what
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Different Places Have Different Safety Rules and That’s OK
Bangladesh may or may not need tougher workplace safety rules, but it’s entirely appropriate for Bangladesh to have different—and, indeed, lower—workplace safety standards than the United States.
The reason is that while having a safe job is good, money is also good. Jobs that are unusually dangerous—in the contemporary United States that’s primarily fishing, logging, and trucking—pay a premium over other working-class occupations precisely because people are reluctant to risk death or maiming at work. And in a free society it’s good that different people are able to make different choices on the risk–reward spectrum.
:yikes
https://slate.com/business/2013/04/international-factory-safety.html (https://slate.com/business/2013/04/international-factory-safety.html)
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 23, 2020, 07:41:07 PM
France's restaurant workers are unionized because of all of the Olive Gardens in Paris.
Anecdotally, it's true you'll hear more often of union pickets in front of a Paris McDonald's. Probably because of the larger staff in any location than in regular restaurants. Overall, I'm not certain what unions managed to extract but it was certainly not enough to make a position there suddenly better than in any small business restaurant even with the non-negligible risk of having an extra abusive and exploitative boss.
https://twitter.com/BronzeHammer/status/1253424744746979330
:whatQuoteDifferent Places Have Different Safety Rules and That’s OK
Bangladesh may or may not need tougher workplace safety rules, but it’s entirely appropriate for Bangladesh to have different—and, indeed, lower—workplace safety standards than the United States.
The reason is that while having a safe job is good, money is also good. Jobs that are unusually dangerous—in the contemporary United States that’s primarily fishing, logging, and trucking—pay a premium over other working-class occupations precisely because people are reluctant to risk death or maiming at work. And in a free society it’s good that different people are able to make different choices on the risk–reward spectrum.
:yikes
https://slate.com/business/2013/04/international-factory-safety.html (https://slate.com/business/2013/04/international-factory-safety.html)
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The current system of letting different countries have different rules is working fine. American jobs have gotten much safer over the past 20 years, and Bangladesh has gotten a lot richer.
neoliberalism lmao
Post by: Mandark on April 23, 2020, 08:25:24 PM
people who want a variety of restaurants to eat at are pretending it's a principled pro-worker stance when small business owners are about the staunchest opponents you'll ever find of minimum wage laws and other labor regulations
Post by: curly on April 23, 2020, 09:05:12 PM
Post by: Mandark on April 23, 2020, 10:45:25 PM
Post by: Mandark on April 23, 2020, 11:24:02 PM
Post by: Tripon on April 24, 2020, 01:20:55 AM
Post by: VomKriege on April 24, 2020, 01:30:40 AM
https://twitter.com/SovietPostingAI/status/1253041585874448385
https://twitter.com/gwensnyderPHL/status/1234539015627509761
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on April 24, 2020, 01:40:29 AM
https://twitter.com/gwensnyderPHL/status/1234539015627509761e: went through the whole thing. she’s actually cool and good
Post by: Momo on April 24, 2020, 01:45:04 AM
Post by: curly on April 24, 2020, 01:52:53 AM
Post by: El Babua on April 24, 2020, 01:55:50 AM
https://twitter.com/TrueAnonPod/status/1253474732080414720
https://twitter.com/TrueAnonPod/status/1253477205369221121
lmao
Post by: Mandark on April 24, 2020, 02:04:54 AM
Post by: team filler on April 24, 2020, 02:05:50 AM
Post by: VomKriege on April 24, 2020, 02:06:17 AM
curious how you have the dedication to write a 119 tweet thread about a subject but won't listen to any of the freely available episodes of it
Era doesn't deplatform media outlets without evidence of discrimination. I am certain you know exactly what racist and homophobic jokes they make are.
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on April 24, 2020, 02:06:19 AM
she’s actually cool and good
https://twitter.com/TrueAnonPod/status/1253474732080414720well thats probably the quickest expiration date on a post ive ever had
Post by: BIONIC on April 24, 2020, 02:07:58 AM
what doesn't kill me will only put me in a medically induced coma in russia
A coward’s fate ::)
Post by: Momo on April 24, 2020, 02:12:25 AM
https://twitter.com/shoe0nhead/status/1253514732662915072
holy shit the brain memes in this thread :dead
Post by: curly on April 24, 2020, 03:05:47 AM
curious how you have the dedication to write a 119 tweet thread about a subject but won't listen to any of the freely available episodes of it
just spend 30 minutes trying to Get To The Bottom of This when I could have been watching Korean boomers play starcraft
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on April 24, 2020, 03:59:33 AM
im coming back around on it. shes pretty obviously a true believer and has done a shitload of great work. the long thread is mostly her experience getting railroaded by grifters -almost exclusively men- during occupy until the movement ran out of steam; which, you know, did actually happen. because of that, shes prima facie skeptical of white men getting involved in organizing when theres obvious opportunity for self promotion. she might be just a smidge too skeptical, but not to an extent that seems unreasonable to me.curious how you have the dedication to write a 119 tweet thread about a subject but won't listen to any of the freely available episodes of it
just spend 30 minutes trying to Get To The Bottom of This when I could have been watching Korean boomers play starcraft
then the replies get ridiculous. from all the you-love-to-see-it’s at the most tenuous suggestions of collusion to the dsa dirty laundry hanging by people who clearly have an axe to grind to the straw grasping to find each others biggest wokesins.
someone legit said “ironic antisemitism is still antisemitism”. like motherfucker, do you know what irony is?
Post by: Momo on April 24, 2020, 08:58:19 AM
how is this real :dead
Post by: Coax on April 24, 2020, 09:23:08 AM
Edit: apparently there has been research into use of UV-C for blood borne diseases by exposing blood to it in order to kill bacteria (intentional damage of DNA that's then repaired by the body). Curious. Though idk what use that is in this case.
Post by: Tripon on April 24, 2020, 01:15:56 PM
Wankception
Post by: Momo on April 24, 2020, 01:20:52 PM
Post by: Momo on April 24, 2020, 01:35:56 PM
Post by: shosta on April 24, 2020, 02:12:43 PM
Back at it like a fact addict
Mr. Lib Magic, block a bitch back
Malpractice, ataractic wank daddy smokin' cheap Cali
Post by: Mandark on April 24, 2020, 06:29:48 PM
https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/expenditures.php?cycle=2018&cmte=C00639997
Post by: shosta on April 24, 2020, 06:36:03 PM
Seen Krystal Ball come up on the Bore a few times, but have we ever talked about this?I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Are you suggesting that she work for free?
https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/expenditures.php?cycle=2018&cmte=C00639997
Post by: VomKriege on April 24, 2020, 06:55:31 PM
Post by: shosta on April 24, 2020, 07:02:17 PM
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The name Krystal came from her father [Edward Ball], a physicist who wrote his dissertation on crystals.
Post by: shosta on April 24, 2020, 10:35:00 PM
https://twitter.com/asymmetricinfo/status/1253799050161291266
Could be worth investigating this
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on April 24, 2020, 10:38:05 PM
Post by: team filler on April 24, 2020, 10:52:43 PM
I think he was just a big fan of star fox adventures :dogeQuoteThe name Krystal came from her father [Edward Ball], a physicist who wrote his dissertation on crystals.
Post by: shosta on April 24, 2020, 11:35:06 PM
that's very interesting
Post by: benjipwns on April 25, 2020, 12:37:06 AM
Could be worth investigating thisAll orchestras are now ordered to play 4′33″ non-stop, and all residents are required to attend.
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 25, 2020, 12:46:12 AM
Post by: shosta on April 25, 2020, 12:47:09 AM
Post by: Mandark on April 25, 2020, 02:59:00 AM
Demanding likes for posting a bad tweet and not even coming up with your own dunk, though. :wag
Post by: benjipwns on April 25, 2020, 03:00:22 AM
Post by: VomKriege on April 25, 2020, 08:05:17 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/FiA9kVi.gif)
Post by: VomKriege on April 25, 2020, 01:38:36 PM
Quote
Episode 935 Scott Adams: Talking Questions About Clorox and Lysol
- Democrats STILL believe the news is real (yes, I’m serious)
- Words aren’t meant to be taken literally
Quote
Episode 934 Scott Adams: Learn the True Story About Wuhan, What pairs Well With Fish Tank Cleaner?
- CNN pretending (or believes) the Clorox HOAX
- How dumb does CNN think their viewers are?
Quote
Episode 933 Scott Adams: Let’s Have a Laugh About the National IQ Test That Half of the Public is Failing
- Nobody said anyone should drink or inject bleach or isopropyl
https://www.scottadamssays.com/ (https://www.scottadamssays.com/)
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1253665458298863616
:brain
Post by: VomKriege on April 25, 2020, 01:54:21 PM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1254085267322961921
I mean yeah, I guess if you are oblivious that bleach suggested as a miracle cure is a thing, that it has some popularity among Qanon types supporting Trump, the fact he literally presented it as a link he made to the efficiency of actual disinfectant on surfaces and that he previously pushed for several days a medecine without any scientific data to support it... You could be charitable.
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 25, 2020, 02:21:38 PM
Post by: team filler on April 25, 2020, 02:29:08 PM
https://twitter.com/ernestofaraujo/status/1252811093405122566https://twitter.com/faiscajuventude/status/1253002537873137666
Post by: Tripon on April 25, 2020, 10:50:18 PM
A good ol' fuck Bret Stephens column.
Post by: team filler on April 26, 2020, 12:11:28 AM
jordy p never recovered after zizek da gawd slapped buddy around. choms :ufup
Post by: OnlyRegret on April 26, 2020, 12:56:39 AM
Post by: Tripon on April 26, 2020, 01:04:58 AM
Posting this in the wank dad thread since I'm sure this is somebody's fetish. :doge
Post by: team filler on April 26, 2020, 01:22:32 AM
Post by: EchoRin on April 26, 2020, 02:52:56 AM
https://twitter.com/DarkSideOfRing/status/1253097305403797504
Posting this in the wank dad thread since I'm sure this is somebody's fetish. :doge
and next week we'll have “The Leg Snap Heard Round the World”
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 26, 2020, 12:16:33 PM
:tocry
Post by: VomKriege on April 26, 2020, 12:24:26 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 26, 2020, 12:26:49 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 26, 2020, 04:44:40 PM
Super Wank Bros Melee
Post by: VomKriege on April 26, 2020, 04:49:07 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 26, 2020, 04:51:30 PM
Post by: VomKriege on April 26, 2020, 05:06:19 PM
Dean Cain?
Collab with both Charlie and Cameron Kirk is a red flag.
Retweets TPusa and Carpe Donktum.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 26, 2020, 05:08:19 PM
Post by: VomKriege on April 26, 2020, 05:12:01 PM
Not sure I understand this one.
Post by: OnlyRegret on April 26, 2020, 05:20:36 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/WeWuzBoomers/status/1252613246999236610
Post by: Rufus on April 26, 2020, 05:49:36 PM
boring pedantry
"easily offended and reactionary"
It's gonna mean 'responds to everything' in two years, isn't it? You motherfuckers.
I've recently heard "costed" as well. I'm not upset about it, it's logical at least, but it sounds ugly. Also can't believe how fast this change is happening. Feels like there won't be any irregular past participles left in two decades.
It's gonna mean 'responds to everything' in two years, isn't it? You motherfuckers.
I've recently heard "costed" as well. I'm not upset about it, it's logical at least, but it sounds ugly. Also can't believe how fast this change is happening. Feels like there won't be any irregular past participles left in two decades.
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Post by: Nintex on April 26, 2020, 07:57:08 PM
A wank dad special guest appearance
Post by: OnlyRegret on April 27, 2020, 12:49:48 AM
Post by: Tripon on April 27, 2020, 02:18:51 AM
Post by: VomKriege on April 27, 2020, 02:38:04 AM
Post by: BIONIC on April 27, 2020, 05:45:22 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on April 27, 2020, 05:56:55 PM
https://twitter.com/GandalftheWhi19/status/1254738196904247297
Post by: OnlyRegret on April 27, 2020, 05:59:55 PM
Post by: Momo on April 27, 2020, 05:59:55 PM
Post by: shosta on April 27, 2020, 06:07:34 PM
Post by: team filler on April 27, 2020, 09:50:20 PM
Post by: EchoRin on April 28, 2020, 01:00:13 AM
Kinda wish it was taking on a more recent PragerU video (I looked at their youtube and they are busy bees over there). But I'll take a breakdown either way.
Post by: Oblivion on April 28, 2020, 01:33:08 AM
*in homer voice* : BO-RING
Post by: Momo on April 28, 2020, 02:04:46 AM
3 full hours of on brand Wank for me :aah
Post by: team filler on April 28, 2020, 02:16:56 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 28, 2020, 02:47:35 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/efud13K.jpg)
Post by: Oblivion on April 28, 2020, 03:03:46 AM
Post by: Momo on April 28, 2020, 05:42:21 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWpRv9PWoAMKOAz?format=jpg&name=small)That's a Dave Ruben quote yeah? I dont see what's wrong with it breh :doge
Post by: Momo on April 28, 2020, 06:59:44 AM
Post by: Momo on April 28, 2020, 08:16:13 AM
:rofl
Post by: Oblivion on April 28, 2020, 11:01:30 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWpRv9PWoAMKOAz?format=jpg&name=small)That's a Dave Ruben quote yeah? I dont see what's wrong with it breh :doge
you think ben shapiro - let me reiterate, BEN FUCKING SHAPIRO - has no problem with lgbt people getting civil rights?
Post by: Tripon on April 28, 2020, 11:36:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs_mDpIkUOY
3 full hours of on brand Wank for me :aah
The best part for me is right at the beginning where Tim Pool brags that he lives in his van.
Post by: EchoRin on April 28, 2020, 11:38:25 AM
Post by: VomKriege on April 28, 2020, 11:40:28 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWpRv9PWoAMKOAz?format=jpg&name=small)That's a Dave Ruben quote yeah? I dont see what's wrong with it breh :doge
you think ben shapiro - let me reiterate, BEN FUCKING SHAPIRO - has no problem with lgbt people getting civil rights?
Presumably Shapiro is OK with it. But he's not OK in government "intervening" in marriage and "subdiziding" it. Which basically hollows civil marriage altogether, I'd assume ? Oh and that baker doesn't have to service you. He also thinks you're a sinner. Plus he won't come to your gay wedding (edit : Anniversary party in the exact quote... Same difference) even if you extend an invitation despite working for him and him pretending to have a cordial work relationship with you. He's OK with it to the extent he won't go out of his way to stone you.
https://youtu.be/bFOwVlPk6j8
https://youtu.be/xoIkHty_vtI
I thought it was the same clip but apparently not :goty2
Also he will never get AIDS. Barring a transfusion :brain .
He and his wife were virgins when they married, so they're covered you see.
Post by: VomKriege on April 28, 2020, 12:03:54 PM
Post by: Momo on April 28, 2020, 12:05:26 PM
my man, his position on this is clear as as snail guts, he thinks you're the devil but he won't stop you and doesn't want government involved. There's a lot of things to go after him for, the fact that he thinks you're the devil is one, but trying to block your rights isn't one.(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWpRv9PWoAMKOAz?format=jpg&name=small)That's a Dave Ruben quote yeah? I dont see what's wrong with it breh :doge
you think ben shapiro - let me reiterate, BEN FUCKING SHAPIRO - has no problem with lgbt people getting civil rights?
Post by: Oblivion on April 28, 2020, 12:30:33 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWpRv9PWoAMKOAz?format=jpg&name=small)That's a Dave Ruben quote yeah? I dont see what's wrong with it breh :doge
you think ben shapiro - let me reiterate, BEN FUCKING SHAPIRO - has no problem with lgbt people getting civil rights?
Presumably Shapiro is OK with it. But he's not OK in government "intervening" in marriage and "subdiziding" it. Which basically hollows civil marriage altogether, I'd assume ? Oh and that baker doesn't have to service you. He also thinks you're a sinner. Plus he won't come to your gay wedding (edit : Anniversary party in the exact quote... Same difference) even if you extend an invitation despite working for him and him pretending to have a cordial work relationship with you. He's OK with it to the extent he won't go out of his way to stone you.
him being okay with gay people as long as the government isn't involved is kind of an important detail, isn't it?
my man, his position on this is clear as as snail guts, he thinks you're the devil but he won't stop you and doesn't want government involved. There's a lot of things to go after him for, the fact that he thinks you're the devil is one, but trying to block your rights isn't one.(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWpRv9PWoAMKOAz?format=jpg&name=small)That's a Dave Ruben quote yeah? I dont see what's wrong with it breh :doge
you think ben shapiro - let me reiterate, BEN FUCKING SHAPIRO - has no problem with lgbt people getting civil rights?
when gay marriage was legalized, shapiro went fucking ballistic, writing a 15k word screed demonstrating just how much he 'didn't care' that the gays were allowed to get married now.
you may as well argue shapiro is perfectly fine with abortion while you're at it.
Post by: Momo on April 28, 2020, 12:35:41 PM
What was your problem with the quote anyway, that Shapiro is a liar and a fraud? (I'll back you on that) or do you have an issue even if everything said in the quote is true? you're on your own there as in general that's how I wish people handled differences.
Post by: Tripon on April 28, 2020, 12:38:02 PM
Post by: VomKriege on April 28, 2020, 12:38:46 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWpRv9PWoAMKOAz?format=jpg&name=small)That's a Dave Ruben quote yeah? I dont see what's wrong with it breh :doge
you think ben shapiro - let me reiterate, BEN FUCKING SHAPIRO - has no problem with lgbt people getting civil rights?
Presumably Shapiro is OK with it. But he's not OK in government "intervening" in marriage and "subdiziding" it. Which basically hollows civil marriage altogether, I'd assume ? Oh and that baker doesn't have to service you. He also thinks you're a sinner. Plus he won't come to your gay wedding (edit : Anniversary party in the exact quote... Same difference) even if you extend an invitation despite working for him and him pretending to have a cordial work relationship with you. He's OK with it to the extent he won't go out of his way to stone you.
him being okay with gay people as long as the government isn't involved is kind of an important detail, isn't it?
I thought it was pretty clear that "presumably OK... [lists of caveats] won't go out of his way to stone you" mean I don't put much stock to how far that tolerance goes. To be fair he's pretty straightforward about it, it's more Rubin that have trouble processing being told the bare faced truth to his face. Shaps won't even attend a marriage between people of differents faiths.
It depends on how convinced one is that in a libertarian fantasy you won't get fucked out of rights even without public backing.
Post by: Momo on April 28, 2020, 12:41:23 PM
https://twitter.com/ChipmanOut/status/1248455588138254336Bob out of context - funny. Bob with context - nightmare fuel
Post by: Momo on April 28, 2020, 12:46:49 PM
if laws weren't backed by government violence we'd all be fucked lmao(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWpRv9PWoAMKOAz?format=jpg&name=small)That's a Dave Ruben quote yeah? I dont see what's wrong with it breh :doge
you think ben shapiro - let me reiterate, BEN FUCKING SHAPIRO - has no problem with lgbt people getting civil rights?
Presumably Shapiro is OK with it. But he's not OK in government "intervening" in marriage and "subdiziding" it. Which basically hollows civil marriage altogether, I'd assume ? Oh and that baker doesn't have to service you. He also thinks you're a sinner. Plus he won't come to your gay wedding (edit : Anniversary party in the exact quote... Same difference) even if you extend an invitation despite working for him and him pretending to have a cordial work relationship with you. He's OK with it to the extent he won't go out of his way to stone you.
him being okay with gay people as long as the government isn't involved is kind of an important detail, isn't it?
I thought it was pretty clear that "presumably OK... [lists of caveats] won't go out of his way to stone you" mean I don't put much stock to how far that tolerance goes. To be fair he's pretty straightforward about it, it's more Rubin that have trouble processing being told the bare faced truth to his face. Shaps won't even attend a marriage between people of differents faiths.
It depends on how convinced one is that in a libertarian fantasy you won't get fucked out of rights even without public backing.
Post by: Oblivion on April 28, 2020, 12:51:13 PM
My man I didn't say he doesn't care, he obviously does, I'm saying he's not out there campaigning for laws to stop gay marriage.
What was your problem with the quote anyway, that Shapiro is a liar and a fraud? (I'll back you on that) or do you have an issue even if everything said in the quote is true? you're on your own there as in general that's how I wish people handled differences.
i'm saying up until the supreme court ruling, ben was doing absolutely everything in his power to make sure gay people were not able to have the right to get married. in one of those mysterious coincidences in life, his position suddenly "evolved" around the exact same time the ruling was passed. do you think ben stopped talking about his opposition to legalized gay marriage because he suddenly became more tolerant?
imagine someone was about to rob a bank, but at the last minute they forgo that plan because they suddenly realized the bank hired like 10 armed security guards. then that same would be robber goes "you know, i never really cared about robbing that bank anyway!"
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWpRv9PWoAMKOAz?format=jpg&name=small)That's a Dave Ruben quote yeah? I dont see what's wrong with it breh :doge
you think ben shapiro - let me reiterate, BEN FUCKING SHAPIRO - has no problem with lgbt people getting civil rights?
Presumably Shapiro is OK with it. But he's not OK in government "intervening" in marriage and "subdiziding" it. Which basically hollows civil marriage altogether, I'd assume ? Oh and that baker doesn't have to service you. He also thinks you're a sinner. Plus he won't come to your gay wedding (edit : Anniversary party in the exact quote... Same difference) even if you extend an invitation despite working for him and him pretending to have a cordial work relationship with you. He's OK with it to the extent he won't go out of his way to stone you.
him being okay with gay people as long as the government isn't involved is kind of an important detail, isn't it?
I thought it was pretty clear that "presumably OK... [lists of caveats] won't go out of his way to stone you" mean I don't put much stock to how far that tolerance goes.
sorry, figured that's what you meant, but i wanted to mention it just to be sure.
To be fair he's pretty straightforward about it, it's more Rubin that have trouble processing being told the bare faced truth to his face. Shaps won't even attend a marriage between people of differents faiths.
It depends on how convinced one is that in a libertarian fantasy you won't get fucked out of rights even without public backing.
i disagree with that, actually. i mean, he's straightforward when discussing it on the religious front, but he's a slippery little toad when it comes to the legal area. before the SC decision, he advocated that gay marriages should not be recognized by the government (straight marriages are just fine however). after the decision, suddenly his issue wasn't that gay marriages were getting recognized by the government, but that government was involved in marriage to begin with. an issue that again, for one of life's mysterious reasons, was never a concern that he ever brought up before the ruling. :thinking
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 28, 2020, 12:53:35 PM
:tocry
Post by: Rufus on April 28, 2020, 12:56:53 PM
like alex jones said, lets pray for ben shapiro to find christSo he can crucify him a second time?
:tocry
Post by: Momo on April 28, 2020, 01:08:37 PM
Post by: VomKriege on April 28, 2020, 01:14:43 PM
Quote from: Oblivion
i disagree with that, actually. i mean, he's straightforward when discussing it on the religious front, but he's a slippery little toad when it comes ot the legal area.
I take your word for it, I meant more as far as the clips are concerned. In those he doesn't really clarify and goes back to "I'm a libertarian" which means "I think shops should be allowed to not service you because you're gay but somehow free market will provide" (emphasized by the "there was another bakery across the street"). Since I don't think we'll ever see in our lifetime a libertarian space on a large scale emerge, we'll never be able to test this miraculous equilibrium. Like you I think it's a croak of shit and a deflection but in theory it seems that the cover provided is good enough for him.
Post by: VomKriege on April 28, 2020, 01:22:07 PM
Post by: Tripon on April 28, 2020, 04:27:01 PM
:lol
Post by: team filler on April 28, 2020, 04:34:12 PM
Post by: Momo on April 28, 2020, 04:39:50 PM
https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1254860389256278018 (https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1254860389256278018)more for me, I'll inject one in my left buttcheeck on you Candace :playa
:lol
Post by: Mandark on April 28, 2020, 05:28:23 PM
shapiro retconning years of columns encouraging the government to maintain a legal double standard, and rubin and momo rushing to fall for it and pat themselves on the back for openmindedness
Post by: VomKriege on April 28, 2020, 05:32:43 PM
what's ben's view on having a BBC bull for his wife?
AIDS is a behaviourally driven disease. :expert
Post by: Mandark on April 28, 2020, 05:41:13 PM
Someone should tell Ben Shapiro about this Ben Shapiro column in which Ben Shapiro wants a goddam constitutional amendment to keep gay marriage illegal.
Post by: VomKriege on April 28, 2020, 05:47:05 PM
:rofl
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on April 28, 2020, 05:56:23 PM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1255133190206787584
:rofl
His gofundme is so sad, only 15k since January.
Post by: Momo on April 28, 2020, 06:24:17 PM
https://twitter.com/BobChipman_1981/status/1254903570870218752?s=19
Robert fiction :lawd
Post by: Momo on April 28, 2020, 06:29:26 PM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1255133190206787584have you seen that weird hour long video with the press and two doctors trying to say the economy should be reopened? There's this unintentionally hilarious moment where one doctor is like our services are cheap only $200 give money please :dead
:rofl
Post by: Momo on April 28, 2020, 06:39:22 PM
Couldn't find the original apparently youtube deleted it, it's in there somewhere between being mad about a bistro being closed :lol
Post by: Nintex on April 28, 2020, 06:54:46 PM
:dead
Post by: OnlyRegret on April 28, 2020, 07:30:54 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWpRv9PWoAMKOAz?format=jpg&name=small)That's a Dave Ruben quote yeah? I dont see what's wrong with it breh :doge
I agree, it's good to have a wide variety of friends. Friends who feel you'll burn for eternity and have a sinful soul doomed for damnation can really bring up an oft-neglected side to an issue.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on April 28, 2020, 08:32:39 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/peterdaou/status/1255284698860924928
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 28, 2020, 08:34:19 PM
Chairman Daou has spoken.
https://mobile.twitter.com/peterdaou/status/1255284698860924928
Didn't all this stuff happen before he was stanning Hilldawg? :thinking
Post by: Mandark on April 28, 2020, 08:37:01 PM
Post by: Momo on April 29, 2020, 01:37:11 AM
It's like being friends with people of rival football teams. You misunderstand I dont believe they are friends, they at best appear to be generally political allies. The stated way of dealing with fundamental disagreement, even if faux is something I wish more people would adopt.(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWpRv9PWoAMKOAz?format=jpg&name=small)That's a Dave Ruben quote yeah? I dont see what's wrong with it breh :doge
I agree, it's good to have a wide variety of friends. Friends who feel you'll burn for eternity and have a sinful soul doomed for damnation can really bring up an oft-neglected side to an issue.
Post by: EchoRin on April 29, 2020, 01:51:48 AM
Post by: Momo on April 29, 2020, 01:56:05 AM
:gopnik
Post by: VomKriege on April 29, 2020, 01:57:02 AM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1255133190206787584
:rofl
His gofundme is so sad, only 15k since January.
He already fleeced his supporters over a year ago of 15k$ to move to Washington D.C. where all the politics are. Then he used that money to go live in Florida.
Post by: Momo on April 29, 2020, 02:14:24 AM
I mean certain opinions aren't deserving of being respected or tolerated as a minor character flaw.Ben Shapiro has more than just minor character flaws. I think where we're at now if religious people can stop using religion as a reason to infringe upon other's rights that's great. Theism isnt going away anytime soon and if I have to live with people who hold these views that's my minimum requirement.
Post by: EchoRin on April 29, 2020, 02:30:10 AM
I have a relative who is pretty Shapiro-esque and they aren't even religious. Just a ball of hate for one reason or another (race issues, LGBT issues, hatred against Muslims) . Yeah I deal with them at family outings and such. And hey I even know that they love me as a family relative. That's nice and all. People are complex. Still, I personally don't hold a very high opinion of that person. I know their good and bad aspects. I hope they mellow out. It seems they are veering into the other direction sadly as they age. Sucks. I'm always open to them improving, but as for where they are now they aren't exactly a person I have much respect for.
So that's where I'm at on that topic of tolerating intolerance
Post by: Momo on April 29, 2020, 02:51:58 AM
My favorite cousin got married late last year I really, really adore her, however the church they got married at had a sermon before the ceremony and I was like okay I'll deal with this for my cousin. The priest then went on a tirade about how in the eyes of God marriage is for a man and a woman and not a man and a man. I looked at my brother and we both walked outside during this tirade, he had a smoke and I took a bunch of pictures of the church, geotagged and put it up on my Instagram with gay flags and tagged the church's insta (when did this become a thing). Fuck those losers.
Post by: EchoRin on April 29, 2020, 03:05:22 AM
I don't engage with the family member when they bring up their bigoted thoughts. Usually others in the family are there to lend a listening ear. I'm just hearing and absorbing it with an uneasy feeling in my stomache. And if somehow I'm asked to engage in said topic I try to defuse things and play it off so we get off the bigotry train and move on to something else.
Post by: Momo on April 29, 2020, 03:17:13 AM
On to other news, i forgot to follow this motherfucker was supposed to put up a video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9e6BLQTucs
:dead
Post by: team filler on April 29, 2020, 04:05:58 AM
We're about 99% similar there, 1% difference is I get the impression you'd continue to engage with people holding shitty opinions when they pass the minimum threshold I mentioned? For me i'll just never bring up the topic again if it's someone I have to deal with, unless they slide back into trying to stop people having a life, which admittedly is easy with the state of our churches. If they become better people somewhere in the future cool, otherwise not going to waste time on them.:bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow2 :bow2 :bow2 :bow2 :bow2 :bow2
My favorite cousin got married late last year I really, really adore her, however the church they got married at had a sermon before the ceremony and I was like okay I'll deal with this for my cousin. The priest then went on a tirade about how in the eyes of God marriage is for a man and a woman and not a man and a man. I looked at my brother and we both walked outside during this tirade, he had a smoke and I took a bunch of pictures of the church, geotagged and put it up on my Instagram with gay flags and tagged the church's insta (when did this become a thing). Fuck those losers.
Post by: Tripon on April 29, 2020, 01:22:38 PM
Post by: Nintex on April 29, 2020, 01:23:09 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 29, 2020, 02:39:27 PM
Post by: EchoRin on April 29, 2020, 02:42:01 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 29, 2020, 02:45:25 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on April 29, 2020, 02:47:10 PM
Your loss. Canada could benefit from the perfect all year long weather in Hawaii.
no one wants to take custody of 330 million am*ricans
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 29, 2020, 03:04:39 PM
Your loss. Canada could benefit from the perfect all year long weather in Hawaii.
no one wants to take custody of 330 million am*ricans
I thought you were censoring a puerto rican slur for a second.
Post by: OnlyRegret on April 29, 2020, 03:14:06 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWx3YIUXgAIlC2n?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Post by: EchoRin on April 29, 2020, 03:16:02 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 29, 2020, 03:17:28 PM
Post by: nachobro on April 29, 2020, 03:18:04 PM
Post by: EchoRin on April 29, 2020, 03:18:30 PM
Post by: Tripon on April 29, 2020, 03:28:06 PM
Post by: Momo on April 29, 2020, 04:01:24 PM
Post by: VomKriege on April 29, 2020, 04:10:34 PM
Post by: VomKriege on April 29, 2020, 05:34:42 PM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1255582107864313858
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1255606632630890496
Post by: Tripon on April 29, 2020, 09:14:43 PM
Post by: team filler on April 30, 2020, 01:03:40 AM
https://twitter.com/marwilliamson/status/1255665181985845258
https://twitter.com/marwilliamson/status/1255683916687605760
I hope she runs as ventura's vp :preach
Post by: team filler on April 30, 2020, 01:18:37 AM
woke mom :shaq
Post by: VomKriege on April 30, 2020, 07:44:23 AM
:whatsthedeal
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 30, 2020, 12:22:10 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 30, 2020, 12:23:29 PM
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 30, 2020, 12:26:51 PM
Ya also the NHS has done a study that on average casualties are losing 10 years of life expectancy IRC.
I posted that in the Rona thread. I think it was 11 and 13 for men and women, respectively.
Also, the US skews younger in its deaths.
Post by: team filler on April 30, 2020, 12:27:19 PM
Post by: Momo on April 30, 2020, 02:47:58 PM
Post by: Tripon on April 30, 2020, 02:49:07 PM
Has Jerry Seinfeld ever done anything to gain him wank status? I saw a hilarious post about him becoming Joe Rogan's Luigi somewhere earlier and wanted to find and post it.
Only thing I can think of is Seinfield's rants about doing comedy shows on college campuses.
Post by: EchoRin on April 30, 2020, 02:53:16 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on April 30, 2020, 03:19:54 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EW2tcPlWAAEMuWu?format=jpg&name=medium)
Post by: Oblivion on April 30, 2020, 06:38:57 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/roGFI05.jpg)
gonna crush logic into a fine powder and snort it off the ass of reason until i OD from too much wisdom :brain
Post by: team filler on April 30, 2020, 06:53:05 PM
Post by: Tripon on April 30, 2020, 10:24:59 PM
Post by: EchoRin on May 01, 2020, 01:13:17 AM
Wank wank wank
This youtube channel sure does fit the bill. Might peruse around there tomorrow.
Post by: Nintex on May 01, 2020, 11:17:11 AM
Alex Jones is taking quarantine well
Post by: Momo on May 01, 2020, 02:33:05 PM
Post by: Brehvolution on May 01, 2020, 04:04:06 PM
Post by: Nintex on May 02, 2020, 10:08:26 AM
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 02, 2020, 10:40:39 AM
Post by: nachobro on May 02, 2020, 11:20:46 AM
:ohyeah molletes
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 02, 2020, 02:11:40 PM
Post by: Tripon on May 02, 2020, 02:25:52 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 02, 2020, 10:04:39 PM
https://twitter.com/randygdub/status/1256379613229363201
What a taco.
Post by: D3RANG3D on May 02, 2020, 10:22:29 PM
Post by: curly on May 03, 2020, 12:11:26 AM
https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1256751723198189571
Post by: curly on May 03, 2020, 12:45:26 AM
https://twitter.com/randygdub/status/1256379613229363201
Mexican food in England is probably terrible tbh
Post by: Mandark on May 03, 2020, 12:52:39 AM
Declaring Coronavirus skepticism a form of wank daddery
Wholeheartedly endorsed.
COVID19 truthers are a lot closer to the spirit of the IDW and its dopey autodidacticism than the openly partisan commentators the thread's been dunking on since Admiral Peterson's fleet was scattered at the Battle of the Benzos.
Post by: curly on May 03, 2020, 12:57:44 AM
Post by: Tripon on May 03, 2020, 01:36:38 AM
Declaring Coronavirus skepticism a form of wank daddery
Wholeheartedly endorsed.
COVID19 truthers are a lot closer to the spirit of the IDW and its dopey autodidacticism than the openly partisan commentators the thread's been dunking on since Admiral Peterson's fleet was scattered at the Battle of the Benzos.
This is an endorsement of Bill Mitchell tweets. Ban is over folks. :doge
Post by: shosta on May 03, 2020, 01:40:10 AM
thought about posting some NRx wank in here but I am legit concerned about it's ability to melt the brains of people who love internet or need theoretical justifications for why WH40K will be real.
I recently reread The Dark Enlightenment Manifesto actually because Crash Dummy is forcing me to force us both read early Nick Land and I think the thing that sticks out the most to me is the completely shit-for-brains understanding of economics underlying so much of it, even by marginalist standards. Lots of references to "kicking the can down the road", hard currency goldbug quackery - hardly the incisive critique of progress it claims to be. After chatting with him for like fifteen minutes I can confirm Curtis Yarvin is indeed also that dumb.
The other thing that sticks out to me is that "all politics in interracial countries becomes racialized" does a lot of heavy lifting which probably comes naturally to a quasi-schizoid white guy from the UK but as someone from California it just makes me lol
Post by: benjipwns on May 03, 2020, 02:06:33 AM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1256765364609978370
edit: he's got all the takes today
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1256613330216792065
edit: he's got all the takes today
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1256613330216792065
[close]
Post by: VomKriege on May 03, 2020, 02:39:07 AM
Post by: VomKriege on May 03, 2020, 04:30:30 AM
Post by: Tripon on May 03, 2020, 11:35:39 AM
Post by: toku on May 03, 2020, 11:40:58 AM
Post by: VomKriege on May 03, 2020, 12:18:38 PM
whats this dudes story is he just a clown 24/7?
He is a businessman who was "an executive recruiter" (head hunting I guess) beforehand & who was raptured by Trump's announcement he was running for 2016. He became incredibly active on Twitter in support of his campaign, claiming polls were all wrong and that anecdotal physical evidence such as the attendance at rallies was proof Trump was on a winning path and was hitting that mythical cord in the People. It got so extreme he was clowned on by some media outlets (BuzzFeed ? IIRC) until the General Election happened and he was vindicated beyond his wildest dreams. Some study from MIT on Twitter's effectiveness as a campaign tool ranked him as the 26th most influential account for Trump, above the NYT and several traditional medias.
He founded his own radio show, asked followers to crowdfund his move to Washington DC but instead used the 14k$ to install himself in Miami. He's still riding Trump's dick no matter what and coopted crypto-QAnon beliefs (it's hard even for him to keep saying Trump is a genius and doing a great job if you don't inject some covert long game he's playing). In a sense he's the purest form of a MAGA grifter because his career as a political ideologue is entirely Trump based.
Post by: VomKriege on May 03, 2020, 06:54:20 PM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1257077478801186817
Post by: Tripon on May 03, 2020, 10:40:14 PM
Post by: Tripon on May 04, 2020, 12:48:26 PM
Post by: Nintex on May 04, 2020, 04:56:36 PM
I think we should follow the butterfly effect:Radioactive hurricanes :lawd
The nuke to the hurricane could have prevented COVID.
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on May 04, 2020, 04:57:04 PM
https://twitter.com/foxalive555/status/1257250298101448704
yes yes I know straight-up PUA redpill stuff isn't exactly the same as wank daddery but I had to post this somewhere.
Post by: Oblivion on May 04, 2020, 05:10:35 PM
https://twitter.com/alpharivelino/status/1257147691961929728
Post by: VomKriege on May 04, 2020, 05:14:18 PM
And :kobeyuck at that Amanda Palmer patreon message.
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on May 04, 2020, 05:16:00 PM
Is it tho ? Some of the greatest wank dads certainly leaned on PUA shit, there's obviously some overlap here.
oh they're obviously related, but they're still distinct SKUs.
Post by: Oblivion on May 04, 2020, 05:26:41 PM
Post by: VomKriege on May 04, 2020, 05:29:21 PM
Not that I would expect him to change his mind... But did Bill catch the Rona ?
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Probably not but maybe an actual doctor will educate him while there.
[close]
Post by: Oblivion on May 04, 2020, 05:40:43 PM
Post by: VomKriege on May 04, 2020, 05:40:45 PM
:bernie
https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1257317554596360197
Superior Western Culture :gamer
Post by: benjipwns on May 04, 2020, 05:51:08 PM
shows the average is still four stars
Post by: VomKriege on May 04, 2020, 06:04:44 PM
"coordinated campaign to wreck our reviews"
shows the average is still four stars
#1 Best Seller in Political Freedom
Post by: Nintex on May 04, 2020, 06:11:59 PM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1257419716194381824Either that or he needs to be in top shape for his new job as *checks notes* FBI Director.
Not that I would expect him to change his mind... But did Bill catch the Rona ?spoiler (click to show/hide)Probably not but maybe an actual doctor will educate him while there.[close]
Post by: Tripon on May 04, 2020, 06:20:06 PM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1257419716194381824https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1257426398442074118
Not that I would expect him to change his mind... But did Bill catch the Rona ?spoiler (click to show/hide)Probably not but maybe an actual doctor will educate him while there.[close]
Post by: VomKriege on May 04, 2020, 06:32:04 PM
In other news : not a wank dad but you know...
https://twitter.com/GeorgePapa19/status/1257082091600179201
:dobbs
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 04, 2020, 06:53:59 PM
that dude is really something else
https://twitter.com/alpharivelino/status/1257147691961929728
This account is just a few Tweets away from arguing that it's gay to have sex with a woman.
Post by: Nintex on May 04, 2020, 07:08:35 PM
:salute
Post by: benjipwns on May 04, 2020, 07:09:04 PM
Post by: nachobro on May 04, 2020, 07:19:02 PM
Post by: VomKriege on May 04, 2020, 07:32:47 PM
man cant help but wank on his death bed ::)
Tell them I refuse to be counted as one of the fraudulent 88% "COVID deaths". Retweet wide.
Post by: nachobro on May 04, 2020, 07:53:25 PM
:wag
Post by: Nintex on May 04, 2020, 07:54:55 PM
He probably just has a cold and is tweeting this to get attention.
Post by: VomKriege on May 04, 2020, 07:57:34 PM
https://twitter.com/PawnH4/status/1257368196908228609
:wag
This train stops for no one.
Post by: team filler on May 04, 2020, 07:58:37 PM
Annihilated :lolsandman's wife is a wank mom? :doge
https://twitter.com/buttpraxis/status/1257368709750050823
https://twitter.com/buttpraxis/status/1257368758420733952
Post by: nachobro on May 04, 2020, 08:18:58 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 04, 2020, 08:28:58 PM
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A growing number of Americans want to tear down what it’s taken us 250 years to build—and they’ll start by canceling our shared history, ideals, and culture.Step One: Disintergrationism
Traditional areas of civic agreement are vanishing. We can’t agree on what makes America special. We can’t even agree that America is special. We’re coming to the point that we can’t even agree what the word America itself means. “Disintegrationists” say we’re stronger together, but their assault on America’s history, philosophy, and culture will only tear us apart.
Who are the disintegrationists? From Howard Zinn’s A People’s History of the United States to the New York Times’ 1619 project, many modern analyses view American history through the lens of competing oppressions, a racist and corrupt experiment from the very beginning. They see American philosophy as a lie – beautiful words pasted over a thoroughly rotted system. They see America’s culture of rights as a façade that merely reinforces traditional hierarchies of power.
Disintegrationist attacks on the values that built our nation are insidious because they replace each foundational belief, from the rights to free speech and self-defense to the importance of marriage and faith communities, with nothing more than an increased reliance on the government.
This twisted disintegrationist vision replaces the traditional “unionist” understanding that all Americans are united in a shared striving toward the perfection of universal ideals.
How to Destroy America in Three Easy Steps shows that to be a cohesive nation we have to uphold foundational truths about ourselves, our history, and reality itself—to be unionists instead of disintegrationists. Shapiro offers a vital warning that if we don’t recover these shared truths, our future—our union—as a great country is threatened with destruction.
Step Two: ?
Step Three: Profit
Post by: VomKriege on May 04, 2020, 08:39:24 PM
i dunno who the broad is but did they go to an NZ corona bunker? neil pls :-\ :lol
She's a musician-singer that do "dark cabaret" so basically snob goth. They are somewhat of a power geek couple ( >:( ). I don't mind it (her first albums, I guess, I wasn't the one in the couple listening to it) but I know she's divisive. That patron post is pretty bad.
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on May 04, 2020, 09:02:35 PM
the know your enemy guys just did an episode where they get asked which conservative thinker would they say knows the left the best and the ex-conservative confesses that the only leftward thinkers the right ever mentioned were chomsky and zinn. like, if they werent on a barnes and noble shelf, they didnt exist.Quotesnip
Post by: nachobro on May 04, 2020, 09:19:16 PM
She's a musician-singer that do "dark cabaret" so basically snob goth.:beli
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They are somewhat of a power geek couple ( >:( ).:trash
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 04, 2020, 09:30:36 PM
QuoteA growing number of Americans want to tear down what it’s taken us 250 years to build—and they’ll start by canceling our shared history, ideals, and culture.Step One: Disintergrationism
Traditional areas of civic agreement are vanishing. We can’t agree on what makes America special. We can’t even agree that America is special. We’re coming to the point that we can’t even agree what the word America itself means. “Disintegrationists” say we’re stronger together, but their assault on America’s history, philosophy, and culture will only tear us apart.
Who are the disintegrationists? From Howard Zinn’s A People’s History of the United States to the New York Times’ 1619 project, many modern analyses view American history through the lens of competing oppressions, a racist and corrupt experiment from the very beginning. They see American philosophy as a lie – beautiful words pasted over a thoroughly rotted system. They see America’s culture of rights as a façade that merely reinforces traditional hierarchies of power.
Disintegrationist attacks on the values that built our nation are insidious because they replace each foundational belief, from the rights to free speech and self-defense to the importance of marriage and faith communities, with nothing more than an increased reliance on the government.
This twisted disintegrationist vision replaces the traditional “unionist” understanding that all Americans are united in a shared striving toward the perfection of universal ideals.
How to Destroy America in Three Easy Steps shows that to be a cohesive nation we have to uphold foundational truths about ourselves, our history, and reality itself—to be unionists instead of disintegrationists. Shapiro offers a vital warning that if we don’t recover these shared truths, our future—our union—as a great country is threatened with destruction.
Step Two: ?
Step Three: Profit
How dare these disintergrationists talk about America's problems?! They should love America and freedom more instead! :bolo
Post by: naff on May 05, 2020, 12:06:13 AM
i dunno who the broad is but did they go to an NZ corona bunker? neil pls :-\ :lol
She's a musician-singer that do "dark cabaret" so basically snob goth. They are somewhat of a power geek couple ( >:( ). I don't mind it (her first albums, I guess, I wasn't the one in the couple listening to it) but I know she's divisive. That patron post is pretty bad.
watching the first performance i could find of hers :cac :brazilcry :PP
type of performer that would cover creep on ukelele and her audience would be like whoa thats edgy
Post by: team filler on May 05, 2020, 12:10:47 AM
:tocry king you're too good for this dumb biiiaaatch
Post by: OnlyRegret on May 05, 2020, 12:12:28 AM
Who are the disintegrationists? From Howard Zinn’s A People’s History of the United States to the New York Times’ 1619 project, many modern analyses view American history through the lens of competing oppressions, a racist and corrupt experiment from the very beginning. They see American philosophy as a lie – beautiful words pasted over a thoroughly rotted system. They see America’s culture of rights as a façade that merely reinforces traditional hierarchies of power.
Wow, the nerve of those college intellectuals. Where do they get the idea that respect for the fellow, full (5/5 parts) man wasn't intended from the start?
Post by: OnlyRegret on May 05, 2020, 01:30:04 AM
thought about posting some NRx wank in here but I am legit concerned about it's ability to melt the brains of people who love internet or need theoretical justifications for why WH40K will be real.
do it you heretic
Post by: OnlyRegret on May 05, 2020, 01:38:36 AM
https://twitter.com/GandalftheWhi19/status/1255481948404932609
Post by: Mandark on May 05, 2020, 01:43:10 AM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on May 05, 2020, 01:50:01 AM
Post by: team filler on May 05, 2020, 02:12:10 AM
Post by: Oblivion on May 05, 2020, 02:15:54 AM
man cant help but wank on his death bed ::)
hey, he's gonna die valiantly in war
twitter war, sure
but war nonetheless :usacry :american
Post by: VomKriege on May 05, 2020, 02:21:37 AM
Jesus, dude, lay off the phone.
Post by: shosta on May 05, 2020, 02:29:58 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 05, 2020, 03:49:14 AM
Post by: Crash Dummy on May 05, 2020, 06:27:44 AM
Just want to clarify that I am the victim here. Also, Land is so much more fun when you don’t even try to parse theory from fictionthought about posting some NRx wank in here but I am legit concerned about it's ability to melt the brains of people who love internet or need theoretical justifications for why WH40K will be real.
I recently reread The Dark Enlightenment Manifesto actually because Crash Dummy is forcing me to force us both read early Nick Land and I think the thing that sticks out the most to me is the completely shit-for-brains understanding of economics underlying so much of it, even by marginalist standards. Lots of references to "kicking the can down the road", hard currency goldbug quackery - hardly the incisive critique of progress it claims to be. After chatting with him for like fifteen minutes I can confirm Curtis Yarvin is indeed also that dumb.
The other thing that sticks out to me is that "all politics in interracial countries becomes racialized" does a lot of heavy lifting which probably comes naturally to a quasi-schizoid white guy from the UK but as someone from California it just makes me lol
Post by: VomKriege on May 05, 2020, 07:31:35 AM
The NERVE.
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1257370420304588804
Post by: VomKriege on May 05, 2020, 07:34:47 AM
https://www.instagram.com/jacobawohl/
Edit : Sorry, "Fitness Guru".
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8221575/Right-wing-conspiracy-theorist-Trump-activist-Jacob-Wohl-switches-careers-fitness-guru.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8221575/Right-wing-conspiracy-theorist-Trump-activist-Jacob-Wohl-switches-careers-fitness-guru.html)
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The staunch Trump supporter is known for being a 'political prodigy'
:mueller
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An earlier version of the hastily-written website read: 'People have watched in real time on Instagram as Jacob Wohl has achieved a stunning physique and incredible strenght [sic] gains in just 100 days. Now the exact fitness and diet plan the [sic] he follows is available to you.'
Post by: Oblivion on May 05, 2020, 09:04:07 AM
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on May 05, 2020, 09:10:26 AM
Post by: nachobro on May 05, 2020, 09:17:54 AM
check back in a year when bill checks himself into rehab for a xanny addiction
Post by: EchoRin on May 05, 2020, 10:47:15 AM
https://twitter.com/alpharivelino/status/1257674254524481536
Saw that 213372BU was complaining about August Ames pre and post excessive plastic surgery. Not that I'm picking on you my man, but someone could have totally thrown this in your face as a friendly ribbing.
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Though I agree with your take on August. It's always a matter of how the plastic surgery looks and I guess what mood I'm in. At least with make up it's a quick on or off situation. With excessive blatant plastic surgery, not so much.
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Post by: VomKriege on May 05, 2020, 12:51:43 PM
https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1257649707947606018
Dave Rubin surprisingly shook at the free market of individual opinions.
:whatsthedeal
Post by: toku on May 05, 2020, 07:55:46 PM
Post by: Nintex on May 05, 2020, 08:31:14 PM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1257614854053126144Why isn't he taking Hydroxychloroquine who knows it might just help what the hell does he have to lose doesn't he support the President?
check back in a year when bill checks himself into rehab for a xanny addiction
Post by: OnlyRegret on May 06, 2020, 12:44:06 AM
https://twitter.com/emorydominique/status/1257506313640140807
https://twitter.com/emorydominique/status/1257507235279679489
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 06, 2020, 01:33:15 AM
Post by: team filler on May 06, 2020, 01:37:55 AM
Post by: VomKriege on May 06, 2020, 05:53:18 AM
:idont
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 06, 2020, 06:07:35 AM
Post by: Crash Dummy on May 06, 2020, 07:10:44 AM
Post by: VomKriege on May 06, 2020, 07:34:05 AM
Post by: VomKriege on May 06, 2020, 02:49:31 PM
:ussrcry
Edit : Wait he also sent a motivation letter to the Daily Mail to explicitly be the pet leftist
:lol
Post by: Momo on May 07, 2020, 10:41:26 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 07, 2020, 12:36:34 PM
How the fuck did DSP get away with this bankruptcy scam :) :neogaf
He can’t keep getting away with it! :dsp
Post by: Tripon on May 07, 2020, 12:39:27 PM
Post by: Momo on May 07, 2020, 03:45:39 PM
for a brief moment today I felt some genuine respect for the lengths this guy would go to for the grift. A brief moment :deadHow the fuck did DSP get away with this bankruptcy scam :) :neogaf
He can’t keep getting away with it! :dsp
Post by: Tripon on May 07, 2020, 04:59:55 PM
:trumps
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 07, 2020, 05:02:32 PM
for a brief moment today I felt some genuine respect for the lengths this guy would go to for the grift. A brief moment :deadHow the fuck did DSP get away with this bankruptcy scam :) :neogaf
He can’t keep getting away with it! :dsp
People just got their hopes way too high up about all this. He was never going to jail. I expected he'd fuck it up and not get Chapter 7 since that's what he looked for, and DSP usually fails completely at anything he tries to accomplish himself, so I suppose I'm a bit disappoint it didn't get turned into 13 or thrown away.
It still isn't some grand triumph where he's completely cleared all his issues and "won". The fact that he even declared bankruptcy in of itself after 11 years of making plenty of money is a huge loss for DSP. The fact that the bankruptcy declaration showed us public info that proved had 130k debt in 14 credit cards was already the outcome most of us wanted out of this. DSP himself tried to shill it as an amazing fix that cleans all his problems away, just like he used to sell the payment plans he'd get on if he just got enough money to get there, and what did those lead to? Answer: More debt and more begging. His unpaid taxes still need to be paid, those aren't going anywhere. His mortage still needs to be paid, he doesn't own his WAkhando. He might still have to pay some 40k to MidFirst for the CT condo since they got their way earlier. We might be getting all new begathons soon actually.
Reality of all this is we already got our gold dust, and people got greedy expecting way more to happen. Yes, I expected DSP to fail even harder with this. Because he's DSP and he's just that stupid. So his grand victory is that he didn't fail even harder than he already did. His cheap bankruptcy mill lawyer pulled through after all and he didn't fail completely, so all he's really done is pay someone to do a thing and sit there snorting and waiting and filling papers poorly, and the lawyer made it all work out. He wants to shill that as if HE won (except he can't because "legally obligated not to speak of this dood"). And all that's really happened is he got some of his debt cleared, while the whole situation in of itself is already a massive loss for his glorious 11 year legacy; his "successful business" and "getting to do what I love for a living" led to him declaring bankruptcy. The paypigs want to take any victory to flaunt it as well, because they're invested in this US vs THEM mentality to justify their whaling. Hence why he got some half a grand yesterday, because of course he would.
Major takeaway is that the only interesting arc to look forward to might have concluded, and DSP now returns to being boring as all fuck again. Without drama, who cares to watch him just sit there poorly playing games he has no interest in and repeating the same "I can't tell you why but it's for a good cause and I really need tips the most now"-shtick every day. And that's bad for him too, because people tune out of his boring ass streams and he'll have to create new drama then to get his viewership and khantributions back.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/DSPDiscussion/comments/gf0a3s/this_is_your_semiannual_reminder_to_not_get_so/
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Post by: Momo on May 07, 2020, 11:37:49 PM
Post by: shosta on May 08, 2020, 12:18:47 AM
https://twitter.com/MMFlint/status/1252583111621144576meant to respond to this when it was posted... one of the tranches of this film is that biofuel isn't actually green energy, which is really misleading and oversimplified. Biofuel is carbon neutral if the net biomass harvested = the net biomass produced because growth recaptures the carbon in the air. In some places we aren't planting fast enough for that to be true yet, but in some places we are. It is a component of a climate change strategy.
There are valid points made in the rest of the film, but as is typical for
Post by: VomKriege on May 08, 2020, 04:43:27 AM
Post by: VomKriege on May 08, 2020, 05:54:10 AM
Oh that's my wank bae from earlier, cool.
Wank matrioshka
Post by: Flannel Boy on May 08, 2020, 09:04:39 AM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1258739803950063617
Post by: Tripon on May 08, 2020, 11:54:18 AM
:doge
https://twitter.com/IngrahamAngle/status/1258765736207671297
:doge
Post by: Tripon on May 08, 2020, 12:31:34 PM
Post by: Flannel Boy on May 08, 2020, 12:35:23 PM
Also, I doubt a large portion of the pop in 1968 could work from home. It probably wouldn't have been at all feasible.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 08, 2020, 12:44:01 PM
Post by: nachobro on May 08, 2020, 01:00:15 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 08, 2020, 01:01:17 PM
she's citing 100k deaths over two years to the hong kong flu vs 76k in like two months. so either disingenuous or distinguished mentally-challenged fellowed
It's Laura Ingraham, so you can assume both.
Post by: Tripon on May 08, 2020, 01:59:42 PM
https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/1258818607011807233
I don't think Scott Gottlieb is a wank dad, just posting for context. :doge
Post by: Nintex on May 08, 2020, 05:40:56 PM
:doge
Post by: Momo on May 08, 2020, 06:12:14 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 08, 2020, 07:50:33 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXhqK1DXkAElXeC?format=jpg)
:doge
:cac
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 09, 2020, 02:10:35 AM
Post by: team filler on May 09, 2020, 03:10:46 AM
:mueller
Post by: team filler on May 09, 2020, 03:38:54 AM
https://twitter.com/briebriejoy/status/1259025542256504837
:pimp
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 09, 2020, 09:12:32 AM
Post by: VomKriege on May 09, 2020, 11:21:39 AM
:supergay
Post by: team filler on May 09, 2020, 02:56:00 PM
:heart :heart :heart
Post by: Oblivion on May 09, 2020, 03:15:48 PM
the man has not a single original thought inside his empty head
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 09, 2020, 03:21:52 PM
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DR: ‘Because that’s so right, and it’s so interesting, because I’m writing my book too and I’m not gonna steal “factory settings” obviously-‘
lmao
Post by: VomKriege on May 09, 2020, 03:40:34 PM
Annihilated :lolsandman's wife is a wank mom? :doge
https://twitter.com/buttpraxis/status/1257368709750050823
https://twitter.com/buttpraxis/status/1257368758420733952
https://twitter.com/elbusyo/status/1259162516598345728
Couldn't you just... Speak of that like human beings ?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 09, 2020, 04:14:41 PM
Post by: team filler on May 09, 2020, 05:34:38 PM
https://twitter.com/elbusyo/status/1259223069274431489Annihilated :lolsandman's wife is a wank mom? :doge
https://twitter.com/buttpraxis/status/1257368709750050823
https://twitter.com/buttpraxis/status/1257368758420733952
https://twitter.com/elbusyo/status/1259162516598345728
Couldn't you just... Speak of that like human beings ?
::)
Post by: OnlyRegret on May 09, 2020, 08:09:03 PM
https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1259214397458833409
Post by: Nintex on May 09, 2020, 08:38:07 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/G4RQSDm.jpg)Roger deserves freedom, even 50 cent called on Trump to pardon him.
:supergay
Trump should fire Parscale and his dumb app, pardon Roger and make him campaign manager. :birb
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 10, 2020, 10:17:32 AM
Post by: Tripon on May 10, 2020, 11:15:50 AM
Post by: VomKriege on May 10, 2020, 11:26:08 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRBsaJPkt2Q
Is it 90mn of jumping from closer to farther plan values every 5 seconds ? I lasted 8 minutes.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 10, 2020, 12:09:46 PM
Post by: team filler on May 10, 2020, 04:53:36 PM
https://twitter.com/ai_jared/status/1259489069630926848
Post by: team filler on May 10, 2020, 09:50:43 PM
https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1259532067575980033
:heart :heart :heart
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 10, 2020, 11:47:30 PM
:neogaf
Post by: Mandark on May 10, 2020, 11:52:22 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 10, 2020, 11:54:04 PM
edit: dammit
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 11, 2020, 12:01:23 AM
Post by: Tripon on May 11, 2020, 01:33:36 AM
Ethics of Capitalism (Ben Burgis VS Stefan Molyneux Debate)
2 hours!
Post by: Oblivion on May 11, 2020, 10:36:35 AM
Post by: Tripon on May 11, 2020, 10:40:02 AM
cracking.jpg
Post by: Nintex on May 11, 2020, 10:51:53 AM
https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1259659035076202496Your queen looks shell shocked filler, what did you do?
https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1259532067575980033
:heart :heart :heart
Post by: BisMarckie on May 11, 2020, 10:56:02 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXvXzqAX0AIBEBB?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
Accurate.
But they don't serve tofu burgers in the cafeteria often enough. >:(
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 11, 2020, 10:57:31 AM
https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1259659035076202496Your queen looks shell shocked filler, what did you do?
https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1259532067575980033
:heart :heart :heart
converted to judaism :tocry
Post by: Tripon on May 11, 2020, 12:50:47 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 11, 2020, 01:00:55 PM
Post by: EchoRin on May 11, 2020, 01:17:01 PM
*video*Fuck that's a lot of wankery.
Ethics of Capitalism (Ben Burgis VS Stefan Molyneux Debate)
2 hours!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXvXzqAX0AIBEBB?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
This picture is *muah*. But why is Gritty (Flyers mascot) there? How does he fit in the conservative view of being a PC Snowflake Cuck? Gritty is a bit of a rascal himself.
Post by: VomKriege on May 11, 2020, 01:38:31 PM
The redundancies in that one are :dead
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 11, 2020, 01:38:35 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXvXzqAX0AIBEBB?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
Burkas + Thongs :dead
Post by: team filler on May 11, 2020, 01:42:11 PM
Post by: team filler on May 11, 2020, 02:39:06 PM
irony posting still good tho :whew
Post by: VomKriege on May 11, 2020, 02:50:51 PM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1259840101858844674
Sort of sounds like it's paid in exposure however.
Post by: Nintex on May 11, 2020, 03:00:22 PM
Post by: team filler on May 11, 2020, 09:06:19 PM
:lol
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 13, 2020, 10:50:50 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 13, 2020, 11:25:55 PM
Post by: Rufus on May 13, 2020, 11:44:33 PM
Post by: Tripon on May 14, 2020, 10:01:56 AM
Still at it. :yuck
Post by: Nintex on May 14, 2020, 02:41:51 PM
Lol I hope they hire back that dorkI'm surprised a diversity program for what would mainly be developers doesn't work.
https://twitter.com/aprilaser/status/1260648803989774336
I mean, developers are known to be very sensitive to all issues related to living human beings and love meetings and gatherings about all sorts of things that have little to do with the code of the product they're developing.
If you organize such meetings and group activities you immediately become their best friend.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on May 15, 2020, 03:51:20 PM
Post by: Momo on May 15, 2020, 03:55:32 PM
Post by: Tripon on May 15, 2020, 04:04:47 PM
Post by: Momo on May 15, 2020, 04:09:11 PM
Post by: team filler on May 15, 2020, 05:14:45 PM
Post by: shosta on May 15, 2020, 05:15:23 PM
Post by: EchoRin on May 15, 2020, 05:28:51 PM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on May 15, 2020, 05:44:56 PM
Post by: Nintex on May 15, 2020, 05:49:31 PM
https://twitter.com/JohnnyHeatWave/status/1261328919460040704 (https://twitter.com/JohnnyHeatWave/status/1261328919460040704)
Gorka dunking on his own audience :doge
https://twitter.com/bad_takes/status/1261029182110412800 (https://twitter.com/bad_takes/status/1261029182110412800)
Post by: Oblivion on May 15, 2020, 07:21:19 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1261395346615226368
:rollsafe
looks like elon decided to stop hiding his power level
Post by: Tripon on May 15, 2020, 07:26:04 PM
Post by: team filler on May 16, 2020, 12:58:04 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYW0SedKivw
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 16, 2020, 01:12:08 AM
Post by: Tripon on May 16, 2020, 01:50:03 PM
:lol
Post by: VomKriege on May 16, 2020, 01:59:32 PM
https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1261351775698694147
:stahp
Also found on Something Awful this burger analogy for Bitcoin mining :lolQuotelook, it's simple. you have a Happy Burger brand fast food establishment, and sometimes kids come in and want their Happy Burger brand Happy Kiddy Burger, which according to the Happy Burger brand franchise operating instructions is supposed to be 4oz of usda utility grade hamburger lightly grilled and pressed into a poppy seed bun with two slices of mild pickle and a slice of tomato and a piece of iceberg lettuce and the name of the kid written on the top in half an ounce of Happy Burger brand special sauce about which the less said the better
so naturally what you do is, you post an ad saying, cooks wanted, please bring your own grill and meat and bun and pickle and tomato and lettuce, we'll supply the sauce
and you get an applicant, and you send him down to the Hall of Cooks, which is a featureless infinite plane that you keep in the unlit basement of your Happy Burger brand fast food establishment. and you tell him to just keep making burgers and handing them up, and if he hands up a burger that satisfies your standards, you'll pay him a bonus, which is $100,000, plus the price of the burger, which is $.50
now the cook can't see too good down there, and he keeps handing up burgers that are more like pickly meatballs with a swastika painted on the side in tomato sauce, but as long as the meat's cooked the health department won't shut you down, so you keep taking them and dutifully handing down briefcases of cash with a few quarters tossed in. and the cook's pretty happy, even after you summarily declare one day that you're only going to pay $50,000 per burger in the future
so the cook calls in a friend, and she sets up in the Hall of Cooks and starts handing up burgers, and now you're getting acceptable burgers faster than you can sell them. so you raise your standards a bit, and you insist that burgers have to be on a bun, and that cuts production back down to a manageable rate. but the cooks are still pretty happy, even after you cut the burger bonus again to $25,000
this goes on for a while, and now you've got a hundred cooks down there, and you've started demanding that they spell out the kid's name correctly, and that's not easy. so now they're not just making burgers to your increasingly exact specifications, they're racing each other to be the first to get the kid's name right. but you're still paying $5,000 a burger, and apparently the cooks are still happy, because more and more keep showing up
you get curious one day while you're squeezing into your franchise past the giant mountain of rotting discarded hamburgers, and you head down to the Hall of Cooks. the last time you came down here, there were only six cooks, and they were just standing around in a disorganized circle; but now they're organized into these large groups. in one of them, you find your first cook, and he shakes your hand. "remember when we'd just started out and i was lumping up store meat by hand and cooking it on that tiny old george foreman?", he laughs. "that was before figured out cookie cutters and rolling pins." he's standing at a huge professional-grade charbroiler with twenty-four different patties arranged on it; suddenly, in a single efficient flash of movement, he flips them all over. of course, the dull glow of the grill isn't enough in the utter blackness of the Hall, and most of the patties end up on the ground, which you suddenly realize is a lot spongier than it's supposed to be. also, doesn't the ceiling seem lower? you shake it off and head back upstairs to start taking orders, wondering when it'll be the right time to cut the bonus to $1,000
it's been another year. there are tens of thousands of cooks in your basement. you're rejecting burgers for sloppy handwriting. you're rejecting burgers for having too thick a slice of tomato. you're rejecting burgers for excessively clustered poppy seeds. seven months ago, the cooks started building floor-to-ceiling ovens with internal robotics custom-designed for making Happy Kiddy Burgers; now there are whole fields of them, each making ten thousand burgers a second. of course, it's still pitch-dark down there, and the cooks aren't exactly susan calvin, so almost all of those burgers get added straight to the end of the Great Greasy Mountains, but it's amazing how quick they come now. you overhear a few of the cooks talking excitedly about the orders they just placed for massive new ovens from Barbecue Labs. you don't know how any of them can afford this when the burger bonus is only $100
three months ago, you politely asked whether they could start making the adult Happy Burgers, too
for an entire day, all the burgers had your name written on top in poison
Post by: Crash Dummy on May 16, 2020, 04:26:29 PM
Post by: Mandark on May 16, 2020, 09:08:57 PM
His deal is like nu-atheism/pro-Bernie/anti-idpol, right?
Post by: shosta on May 16, 2020, 09:13:12 PM
Post by: Mandark on May 16, 2020, 09:15:29 PM
Still got half a month to go and Elon Musk is going hard though.
Post by: VomKriege on May 16, 2020, 09:31:07 PM
Honestly I think this year had more of a Meltdown March thanks to the primaries and the rona.
Still got half a month to go and Elon Musk is going hard though.
Get your wank brackets in !
Post by: Momo on May 17, 2020, 04:16:21 AM
:fbm
Post by: Nintex on May 17, 2020, 04:33:22 AM
https://twitter.com/peltzmadeline/status/1261330674528784384In a month
:lol
Corona-chan was supposed to be the downfall of Joe.
Haha Keanu interview goes BRRR
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 17, 2020, 04:36:01 AM
Post by: VomKriege on May 17, 2020, 05:34:51 AM
Post by: shosta on May 17, 2020, 04:19:45 PM
Post by: shosta on May 17, 2020, 04:26:13 PM
Post by: Nintex on May 17, 2020, 04:49:59 PM
:holeup anything but this please :stahpThis is how skynet begins
https://twitter.com/neoliberal_dad/status/1261771755594625030
https://twitter.com/IvankaTrump/status/1262095075963736064 (https://twitter.com/IvankaTrump/status/1262095075963736064)
this is how the matrix starts :thinking
Post by: shosta on May 17, 2020, 05:55:55 PM
fucking stop tweeting :stahp
Matt discovering MMT and R at the same time is going to literally give me cancer
Post by: VomKriege on May 17, 2020, 05:59:31 PM
Post by: team filler on May 17, 2020, 06:10:20 PM
https://twitter.com/PersianPoetics/status/1261787045556629505
https://twitter.com/PersianPoetics/status/1261787693022928896
https://twitter.com/PersianPoetics/status/1261788351658688512
:lol
Post by: Mandark on May 17, 2020, 11:52:59 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 18, 2020, 12:31:23 AM
Quote
Ingraham was speaking to Dr. Paul Nathanson, a gender relations professor and author of books including Spreading Misandry: The Teaching of Contempt for Men in Popular Culture on the podcast episode entitled "Transhumanism and the assault on traditional gender and masculinity."
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"I think that the trans people have taken it one step further because by abandoning gender altogether, not simply re-writing it, they're basically trying to use social engineering to create a new species. Which is what, in fact, the transhumanists have been doing for the past half century. Using medical and other technologies to develop a new species.
"So the goal is really quite radical," he added. "We're not talking about people who want to simply do a bit of reform here and there, add a new category. They want, they must, in fact, destroy whatever is in order to replace it with what they think should be. We're talking about revolution, not reform."
Ingraham asks: "And the new species will be looking like what? Will be part human part animal? I mean, will be human mostly…"
Nathanson said, "I think human and part machine,"
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on May 18, 2020, 01:21:09 AM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on May 18, 2020, 07:17:08 PM
Post by: Tripon on May 18, 2020, 07:17:49 PM
Post by: shosta on May 18, 2020, 09:17:40 PM
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Okay, please tell me if I'm missing some obvious point here, but what is so confusing and offensive about the idea of wearing a mask in order to 'increase freedoms' i.e., opening up more shit sooner rather than later? It is established that wearing even cloth masks reduce the likelihood of spreading the virus. Therefore, if more people wear those, then more shit can open up....I see nothing to be offended and outraged by....What am I missing?
Quote from: et
That you're begging permission from the state to go out and do your normal things, do your business, and make a life for yourself. Things you didn't need to wait and ask permission to do before. Things you were free to do via your own autonomy.
You're missing the meaning of freedom.
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Are you taking the virus into context here? Surely, the fact that there is currently a virus that spreads from person to person via the air that they breathe out ought to mean something?
Quote from: et
All your life there has been a virus that spreads person to person, many through the air. You've probably had a few. If you're quite old, then you've tried to avoid being around sick people, maybe even family members. If you had a baby, you probably kept sick people away from them.
But you still had your freedoms. You had the permission to do otherwise. What you did was your choice.
It's kind of depressing that you don't understand what the word freedom means. Your concept of it is like a child asking things from mommy. Kids don't have freedoms. They legally don't have the right to them that an adult does.
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So your answer is: No. You are obviously not taking this virus into context. Holy shit man. Why are you being so condescending, making assumptions about me, and being such an ass when I've just asked a simple question? Is it too much for your brain to handle?
The stupidity of your reply is staggering. I do appreciate your answer though, since it supports my hypothesis that those against even the slightest precautions are as dumb as Schaub.
Quote from: et
You had your question answered. What you're missing is the definition of the word freedom. You didn't like the answer, so you're acting offended.
Remove yourself from the [joe rogan] sub. You don't belong.
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Please tell me you are doing satire? If not, I'm not sure you're smart enough to be using the internet.
:lol
Post by: Mandark on May 18, 2020, 09:33:14 PM
Quote from: hungrynoob
I was replying to a comment. There is a lot “suspect” about the logistics and perception of the logistics. To you, unacceptable exists within a framework that is probably disjointed from the intention of what I posted.
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Little did we know, [Bill Gates] was involved with developing said deadly microbes
Post by: shosta on May 18, 2020, 09:34:34 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 18, 2020, 09:42:30 PM
that's gotta be like a garden path sentence or something, I've read it four times and I still don't know what it means
I'm suspect about the perception of the logistics of this post.
Post by: nachobro on May 18, 2020, 09:44:41 PM
Post by: Oblivion on May 18, 2020, 09:47:32 PM
I've got some fresh content from this forum's original wank dad
:lol
what the odds. i was listening to destiny debate some jordan peterson fanboy and thought of your boy.
one of my favorite moments was how et thought the later released, uncut "in-context" vice interview vindicated jorp's dumbass comments about lipstick and such, when in reality it only made him look worse :rofl
Post by: shosta on May 18, 2020, 09:50:37 PM
Post by: team filler on May 18, 2020, 09:55:36 PM
I've got some fresh content from this forum's original wank dad:pimpQuoteOkay, please tell me if I'm missing some obvious point here, but what is so confusing and offensive about the idea of wearing a mask in order to 'increase freedoms' i.e., opening up more shit sooner rather than later? It is established that wearing even cloth masks reduce the likelihood of spreading the virus. Therefore, if more people wear those, then more shit can open up....I see nothing to be offended and outraged by....What am I missing?Quote from: etThat you're begging permission from the state to go out and do your normal things, do your business, and make a life for yourself. Things you didn't need to wait and ask permission to do before. Things you were free to do via your own autonomy.
You're missing the meaning of freedom.QuoteAre you taking the virus into context here? Surely, the fact that there is currently a virus that spreads from person to person via the air that they breathe out ought to mean something?Quote from: etAll your life there has been a virus that spreads person to person, many through the air. You've probably had a few. If you're quite old, then you've tried to avoid being around sick people, maybe even family members. If you had a baby, you probably kept sick people away from them.
But you still had your freedoms. You had the permission to do otherwise. What you did was your choice.
It's kind of depressing that you don't understand what the word freedom means. Your concept of it is like a child asking things from mommy. Kids don't have freedoms. They legally don't have the right to them that an adult does.QuoteSo your answer is: No. You are obviously not taking this virus into context. Holy shit man. Why are you being so condescending, making assumptions about me, and being such an ass when I've just asked a simple question? Is it too much for your brain to handle?
The stupidity of your reply is staggering. I do appreciate your answer though, since it supports my hypothesis that those against even the slightest precautions are as dumb as Schaub.Quote from: etYou had your question answered. What you're missing is the definition of the word freedom. You didn't like the answer, so you're acting offended.
Remove yourself from the [joe rogan] sub. You don't belong.QuotePlease tell me you are doing satire? If not, I'm not sure you're smart enough to be using the internet.
:lol
Post by: Mandark on May 18, 2020, 09:58:11 PM
the forum's original coward
I'm the OC.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://i.imgur.com/gqT3kCb.gif)
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Post by: benjipwns on May 18, 2020, 10:29:30 PM
Post by: Oblivion on May 18, 2020, 10:40:23 PM
Hmmm, not sure I remember that conversation, also there's no need to dig it up and fill me in on it, no really, don't
what's great is that it was right in the very first two pages of the last thread. how convenient!
Quote from: et
The Cathy Newman interview was a 5 minute segment on TV. They put the whole interview up on YT. The YT whole interview is what sank them. Vice News followed with another recent interview which was apparently 2 hours long. They cut it up into a 4 minute clip for TV. They have yet to put the whole thing up on YT, as if they recognized Channel 4's mistake in going away from the short soundbite format.
Quote from: et
You can figure out the context yourself. Kang made a statement that the Social Studies Warrior stuff stays in colleges, to which Peterson disagreed and pointed towards NBC regulating hugging, and Kang explained that as a reaction towards #metoo as though that justifies it without pause, and Peterson said such a thing as workplace harassment is more complicated than ready made answers can handle and that we have to really questions assumptions about women and men working together, to which Kang said it's no issue and he works with women all the time, to which everyone did a double take because Kang works for fucking VICE, and Peterson was like u srs? and then asked why not regulate make-up, to which Kang seemed unable to follow, and Peterson explained that make-up replicates the appearance of sexual arousal and sends sexual messages. Eventually Kang asked if women who wear make-up (sexual message sender) are somewhat hypocritical if they don't want to receive harassment (which tends to be sexual in nature) and Peterson said yes.
So if the goal is X then there are many things you can do to achieve X. However the vast variables of things you can do (y1, y2, y3) are also varied in public acceptance and personal cost. To fully eliminate workplace harassment we would have to go to some extreme ends. The question is if we want to go that far or not and where do we draw the line on what we are willing to do? And can we accept that harassment will happen? Must it be rid of at all costs? If you're going to regulate hugging then why not regulate make-up? If we are regulating male sexual expressions then shouldn't we regulate female sexual expressions?
And Jay's response is a goofy "oh its easy its no prob" while ignoring his own employer is in the midst of heavy sexual assault and impropriety accusations.
I would say that Peterson's line of questioning was due a longer talk, but Jay chose to move on. I directly challenged Jay on this, but he said it was Peterson's job to explain and took no responsibility for being the guy running the interview and changing the subject. Kang is pretty much an online troll, so I don't have faith that he was at all interested in the deeper conversation and was just hoping for a gotcha clip to put on the HBO show.
Which is the sort of stuff people are sick of why they're ditching old media.
Quote from: et
No. The question was if a very serious business woman wants to avoid harassment and wears make-up, is that somewhat hypocritical? To which he said yes. He also said he was not saying we should eliminate sexual displays in the workplace.
If you're seriously addressing harassment, then these are the questions you have to face. However, if you're just using harassment as a threat against the company in some sort of racketeering operation by HR then you pose dumb solutions like hugging regulations which make it look like you're doing something when it doesn't actually accomplish anything. And since it doesn't accomplish anything, then the problem persists and you blame someone other than the people whose job it is to "fix" the problem. This doesn't help harassment. It only establishes that a company can regulate behavior down to the level of friendliness allowed.
So we give up choosing whether we can handle hugging a worker friend in order to make the appearance of fighting harassment. The line of questioning involves some adept thinking. It's more of a leap to some than it is to the people who get it. So listen to the people who can follow along.
Quote from: et
"they should expect to be harassed."
Again, that is not what he said.
Make-up and high heels sends sexual messages to brains. May iliciit chemical reactions in others, even if those others aren't making the choice to see it as sexual. It's something underneath the surface. That element may lead to a random man thinking the woman is open to his own sexual expression.
That doesn't mean he's justified in doing. It doesn't mean she should expect that response. It's not about blaming everything on one person or one thing. It's about our rules of interaction at work and whether they are fit to the task.
Quote from: et
A man noticing a woman's large breasts and instinctively pausing on them. This can be seen as ogling. However, this can happen without any intent or immediate awareness by the man.
Put another way: We've all had awkward boners.
However, those examples are obvious physical displays by the man. We're talking about things a man might to with intent that is not sexual but that is received sexually by women. These would include standing tall, walking tall or exaggerating physical size. (Leaning back, spreading arms.) Displays of accomplishment do this as well.
You can argue that all of these displays are status displays to both men and women, but that goes both ways. A study of women and men and their reaction to images of women with make-up revealed that men see that as status on the conscience report level and women see that as women competing sexually. Self-grooming also falls into sexual display (across species). A simple straight back, chest forward, tightening of the necktie can send signals.
Quote from: et
Sexual display and status display are likely intertwined to the point that they activate similar parts of the brain.
I don't think he thinks that sexual allure is the only reason women wear make-up. It is probably hard to detach it from sexual display. All modern uses likely hearken back to that as their origin. An honest adult woman likely knows how she does her make-up increases her sexuality and that increases her status and power.
*the "full context" vice video is posted by yours truly*
Quote from: et
Sweet Jebus
Jay Kang can not follow along with the conversation at all. They did really cut up the interview. Kang also lied about the length of the make-up conversation on twitter. He made it seem like the original clip was the total length of the topic and it was Peterson's fault for not expanding upon it when the truth is they did talk a lot more about it and VICE cut that longer discussion out. Jay could have just admitted the expanded upon it and didn't have space in the time budget rather than blame JBP.
I'd say if you think this makes it worse then you're not understanding the conversation. I'm tired of explaining it though. hungrynoob is right, it's rather futile in effort. People should not still be hung up on the make-up bit at this point.
Quote from: et
The point of the exploratory discussion is that we haven't had a real exploratory discussion. You assume the matter is settled based on untested assumptions, so the entire conversation sounds like "menacing warnings about unintended consequences" that mean nothing to you when the unintended consequences are real questions for people who look at these things on an evolutionary scale.
Does sexual harassment exist yes? Yes. Do we denounce it? Yes. Does it still happen? Yes.
So why does it happen? And can we eliminate it? Do we want to fully eliminate it? Where is the line of what we are willing to do stand?
If you fill all these unknowns with assumptions and don't pay attention closely to what people do in response then we are driving blindly upon the subject.
Quote from: et
The evolutionary scale is different biologically and socially. Social adaptation and change occurs much faster than biological. They both have a scale that evolves. This question exists on both formats at once, but we have to mostly face it on the social behavioral side while still worrying about the longer term evo scale.
Post by: shosta on May 18, 2020, 10:41:21 PM
Post by: Oblivion on May 18, 2020, 10:45:07 PM
it was a joke about me taking etiolate's side
well it's too late now, isn't it :yeshrug
Post by: Oblivion on May 18, 2020, 10:47:54 PM
Post by: Mandark on May 18, 2020, 10:55:02 PM
Then I heard the lipstick quote and it all became clear: this was just warmed-over PUA evopsych stuff and also he's dumb.
Post by: EchoRin on May 19, 2020, 12:18:42 AM
*law passes. Nothing Jordan feared came true anyways. Jordan Big Wank Money train don't care. Woo wooooooo*
edit:
Which reminds me. I saved this a while ago as it amused me.
https://yuki.la/pol/126156281
Post by: bluemax on May 19, 2020, 01:28:52 AM
:holeup anything but this please :stahpThis is how skynet begins
https://twitter.com/neoliberal_dad/status/1261771755594625030
https://twitter.com/IvankaTrump/status/1262095075963736064 (https://twitter.com/IvankaTrump/status/1262095075963736064)
this is how the matrix starts :thinking
https://twitter.com/lilly_wachowski/status/1262104754496339968
spoiler (click to show/hide)
The Matrix is about being trans, not being a neocon dickbag.
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Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 19, 2020, 03:37:16 AM
Peterson really ought to be thanking all those trans folks for giving him some made up conflict for him to get involved with. "This law is going to do X Y Z"
*law passes. Nothing Jordan feared came true anyways. Jordan Big Wank Money train don't care. Woo wooooooo*
edit:
Which reminds me. I saved this a while ago as it amused me.
https://yuki.la/pol/126156281
Peterson can’t thank anyone, he’s at bare minimum brain dead or more likely dead dead :doge
Post by: shosta on May 19, 2020, 03:43:40 AM
Post by: shosta on May 19, 2020, 11:46:26 AM
you're killing me, matt :dead
Post by: shosta on May 19, 2020, 12:00:49 PM
Post by: Mandark on May 19, 2020, 12:12:22 PM
vox guy: the democratic party takes black voters for granted because they know they'll vote for the dem candidate anyways
leftists: fuck off with that horrible galaxy brain take
Post by: Mandark on May 19, 2020, 12:23:38 PM
Imagining them as the mavericks who lived too fast and burned out for their generation. Dean/Monroe, Hendrix/Joplin/Morrison, Biggie/Pac, Cobain/Staley, and now Peterson/Musk.
Though I guess it's more of a Brian Wilson situation right now.
Post by: Mandark on May 19, 2020, 12:32:41 PM
Post by: team filler on May 19, 2020, 12:38:56 PM
Post by: EchoRin on May 19, 2020, 12:52:27 PM
This same guy turned my other friend on to Peterson when he was sort of in a personal crisis and seeking out self help sort of stuff. Though this second guy has no bigotry in his bones. He's just one of those artist types. Literally this guy paints for a living to some degree. I know he's also taught art in the past. Not sure if he still does the latter.
So I guess what I'm saying is these guys appeal to either hateful people who have some issues (example 1)
Or they appeal to people who are in a moment of weakness (example 2)
Sorry EXO, not saying your bro falls into those categories. Just pointing out what I've seen with my own two eyes in the real world.
Oh example 2 dude I'm pretty sure has weaned himself off of Peterson. Thank God.
Post by: EchoRin on May 19, 2020, 01:25:25 PM
Though this second guy has no bigotry in his bones. He's just one of those artist types. Literally this guy paints for a living to some degree. I know he's also taught art in the past. Not sure if he still does the latter.
You know those failed art school painterly types, never done anything wrong, harmless, except for that one time
Mmm... Oh.. Ohhhhh.
Haha yeah luckily he's not one to take that dark turn.
Post by: team filler on May 19, 2020, 06:12:07 PM
:lol
Post by: EchoRin on May 19, 2020, 06:13:37 PM
I know why... [Cardi B voice] Money [/Cardi B voice]
Post by: team filler on May 19, 2020, 06:15:09 PM
Post by: EchoRin on May 19, 2020, 06:16:39 PM
Post by: Tripon on May 19, 2020, 06:20:47 PM
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 19, 2020, 06:32:37 PM
What? Why the hell would you move your audio only to spotify? Can't even download that shit unless you are subbed to it.
I know why... [Cardi B voice] Money [/Cardi B voice]
To get money. Last podcast on the left did it recently too.
Post by: team filler on May 19, 2020, 06:36:19 PM
that rogan guy sucks too :kermit
Post by: naff on May 19, 2020, 06:43:06 PM
that shit will rot your brain.
Post by: Oblivion on May 19, 2020, 09:40:38 PM
Fair enough.
I guess the aspect that really baffles me is while I was the same it caused the opposite effect of me seeing your Jordan Peterson types as pathetic. Like you want to be ultra-masculine? Hit the gym, learn how to fix your own car, it isn't that hard.
the funny thing is jorp has done a better job proving the concept of masculinity is an arbitrary construct than any feminist ever could.
dude is teaching incels how to be a 'real man', while being the least masculine person in the western hemisphere.
Post by: bluemax on May 19, 2020, 10:24:22 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 19, 2020, 10:28:56 PM
Fair enough.
I guess the aspect that really baffles me is while I was the same it caused the opposite effect of me seeing your Jordan Peterson types as pathetic. Like you want to be ultra-masculine? Hit the gym, learn how to fix your own car, it isn't that hard.
the funny thing is jorp has done a better job proving the concept of masculinity is an arbitrary construct than any feminist ever could.
dude is teaching incels how to be a 'real man', while being the least masculine person in the western hemisphere.
JP, in his Kermit voice and barely holding back tears: Please, clean your rooms.
Incels: Now that's a REAL man!
Post by: Oblivion on May 20, 2020, 12:10:07 AM
Post by: EchoRin on May 20, 2020, 12:19:00 AM
also, related to that, i find it equally amusing that comic books, anime and video games have become the battleground in the war to save Western Civilization (tm). and the people who consider themselves fans of those things, who have proclaimed themselves the vanguard against cuckery, when those same people have been looked down upon by society as pathetic, basement dwelling losers.
:gddr5 :gamer :exxy :uguu :nerds :bowsette :joker :pika
I think that covers it all. Not sure if there is an Es Jay Dubya war in wrestling so I refrained from those emoticons.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 20, 2020, 12:39:00 AM
Post by: remy on May 20, 2020, 12:45:54 AM
https://twitter.com/GutianGang/status/1251409734785089537Time to do my marxist duty :rash
:idont
Post by: Tripon on May 20, 2020, 12:55:04 AM
Crazy that this was the last video for Jordan Peterson.
Post by: shosta on May 20, 2020, 12:58:43 AM
my tolerance is so low for shapiro type bullshit. Frankly, I just want to live my life without ever encountering it ever again.
Fuck it :lol
(https://i.imgur.com/qxbijZ7.png)
The Virgin Ben vs the Chad Internet :lawd
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 20, 2020, 01:03:01 AM
Post by: benjipwns on May 20, 2020, 01:06:24 AM
Post by: benjipwns on May 20, 2020, 01:10:20 AM
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51OyT7CwVnL._SX329_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)
edit: yep
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. But the book—dedicated in part to "those who hope I fail"—is just as much about pointed revelation ("Some people laugh when I tell them I am twenty-two and have never had sex," begins the chapter "Why I'm a Virgin")
Post by: EchoRin on May 20, 2020, 01:22:48 AM
Post by: Oblivion on May 20, 2020, 01:26:43 AM
Post by: Oblivion on May 20, 2020, 01:27:36 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTwEFa5NW2k
Crazy that this was the last video for Jordan Peterson.
he ain't coming back, people.
Post by: EchoRin on May 20, 2020, 01:42:38 AM
Post by: Oblivion on May 20, 2020, 01:51:19 AM
She continues to post her grifty diet shit on Instagram daily.
well she is her father's daughter, afterall
Post by: VomKriege on May 20, 2020, 02:17:44 AM
Quote. But the book—dedicated in part to "those who hope I fail"—is just as much about pointed revelation ("Some people laugh when I tell them I am twenty-two and have never had sex," begins the chapter "Why I'm a Virgin")
:walkaway
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 20, 2020, 09:13:46 AM
https://twitter.com/tedgioia/status/1262930316253110276
:whoo
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 20, 2020, 10:45:07 AM
Post by: ToxicAdam on May 20, 2020, 11:34:01 AM
Post by: Mandark on May 20, 2020, 12:23:42 PM
maybe this is it
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51OyT7CwVnL._SX329_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)
edit: yepQuote. But the book—dedicated in part to "those who hope I fail"—is just as much about pointed revelation ("Some people laugh when I tell them I am twenty-two and have never had sex," begins the chapter "Why I'm a Virgin")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv2Hu4pHAFc
Post by: EchoRin on May 20, 2020, 01:26:02 PM
Turns out trying to make your company the defacto center for all podcasting is more valuable then some random 3 minute ditty about heartbreak. Who knew?
And with that, Jay-Z stop being a turd and allow Blueprint tracks back on YouTube (you got a team of hawks taking them down constantly for several years now? :yuck) and end Tidal exclusivity.
Post by: curly on May 20, 2020, 04:21:02 PM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on May 20, 2020, 05:39:18 PM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on May 20, 2020, 06:20:58 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 20, 2020, 07:47:11 PM
Post by: team filler on May 21, 2020, 02:03:03 AM
Post by: Momo on May 21, 2020, 02:41:54 AM
dont attack my wank bae :maf :maf :maf :maf :maf :shaking :existential
Post by: team filler on May 21, 2020, 04:25:35 AM
Post by: Coitus on May 21, 2020, 08:06:10 AM
Angela Nagle and Michael Tracey wrote an article about how Bernie lost because of the Maoist ultraleft if some of you who enjoy torturing yourselves want to read it, personally I will not be doing so
I read it. Summary: Bernie got woke, went broke.
Post by: Nintex on May 21, 2020, 12:19:23 PM
Just two dads wanking
Post by: Mandark on May 21, 2020, 04:57:14 PM
An especially amazing coincidence since Sanders was able to put together a much, much larger and influential coalition than the "Trustbusting + Sinophobia" platform has been able to muster so far.
Post by: Momo on May 21, 2020, 05:04:53 PM
Post by: team filler on May 21, 2020, 05:05:02 PM
Post by: Momo on May 21, 2020, 05:06:28 PM
we live in wank world now :karenI mean we are in lockdown :dsp
Post by: Mandark on May 21, 2020, 05:07:20 PM
A sitting US Senator should definitely not count, until they start tweeting daily on evolutionary psychology and what it tells us about gender.
Post by: Mandark on May 21, 2020, 05:16:23 PM
It's like one of those astrophysics things where you can't observe the phenomenon directly. Light bending around a black hole, etc.
Post by: Momo on May 21, 2020, 05:16:24 PM
I cannot speak for Mr. Roberts skull preferences, I can however convey his interest in casual genocideIs wank dad really about politics or people with platforms saying dumbshit? I'd hate to have to take Bob Chipman eating an absolute unit of McDonalds somewhere else :fbm
What is Mr. Chipman's view on skull shapes?
Post by: Momo on May 21, 2020, 05:18:24 PM
Post by: team filler on May 21, 2020, 05:21:24 PM
:tocry
Post by: Tripon on May 21, 2020, 05:23:07 PM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1263347787632164865
https://twitter.com/Wu_Tang_Finance/status/1263120872732229633
Post by: Mandark on May 21, 2020, 05:23:23 PM
Never came up here, though.
Post by: Momo on May 21, 2020, 05:40:16 PM
I think my favorite moviebob moments are when he sucks up hard to bread tubers only for them to reply dunking on him and he can't help but be hurt guy replying too much.he seems to be quoting lindsay ellis, sexy cyborg and some indie game chick all the time now, they are the only people I haven't seen dunk on him. Eventually they will realise what is going on and drive him back to McDonalds. Jack from RLM is the only person that seems to genuinely like him lmao
Post by: Mandark on May 21, 2020, 06:37:34 PM
abesimpson.gif
Post by: Rufus on May 21, 2020, 06:45:36 PM
Is wank dad really about politics or people with platforms saying dumbshit? I'd hate to have to take Bob Chipman eating an absolute unit of McDonalds somewhere else :fbmI would say the traits are, in order of importance: unearned arrogance, reactionary thought, a loyal following, and the milking thereof for adulation or money.
Reactionary thought, because in Bore canon Jordan Peterson is the ur-Wank Dad that all other Wank Dads are measured against. Politics preferred, because it's the ultimate skub (https://pbfcomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/PBF020-Skub.gif), but it could be about anything. Not least since anything can be politicized.
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 21, 2020, 06:50:53 PM
Can we consider Warren a wank mom? Or is being an actual politician with a career in it disqualify you from the wank handle?
Most wank people don't have actual jobs other than being professional saying-stuff-on-the-internet people.
Post by: shosta on May 21, 2020, 07:13:19 PM
All the drive-bys are so good :lawd
Post by: EchoRin on May 21, 2020, 08:14:55 PM
Or are we pointing out that she benefited financially. Cause yeah. I don't know what to do about that.
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on May 21, 2020, 08:19:30 PM
peep the replies. the main person pulling receipts explicitly details a couple cases where people have fessed up and tried to deal with evil in their family history. the point is that op is plugging their ears to all this. well, that and twitter getting their priors confirmed about blue check liberalism
Post by: EchoRin on May 21, 2020, 08:22:16 PM
she’s categorically denying any wrongdoing.
peep the replies. the main person pulling receipts explicitly details a couple cases where people have fessed up and tried to deal with evil in their family history. the point is that op is plugging their ears to all this. well, that and twitter getting their priors confirmed about blue check liberalism
Ah I see. I skimmed over the tweets.
Post by: Tripon on May 22, 2020, 12:02:23 AM
https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1263657736920801281
This guy that wank dad bod
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1263656316637188099
CO2!
https://twitter.com/susandiskin/status/1263650039538176000
Fuck this guy
https://twitter.com/dadblood69/status/1263640270425296896
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1263675874156707840
Post by: team filler on May 22, 2020, 12:58:58 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/cd5fGdX.png)
:pimp :supergay :pimp
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1263695546360856577
Post by: VomKriege on May 22, 2020, 01:04:27 AM
Can we consider Warren a wank mom? Or is being an actual politician with a career in it disqualify you from the wank handle?
Most wank people don't have actual jobs other than being professional saying-stuff-on-the-internet people.
Wonk Dad is not Wank Dad.
Post by: team filler on May 22, 2020, 01:24:59 AM
:drool
Post by: Momo on May 22, 2020, 02:27:01 AM
https://twitter.com/EmilyGorcenski/status/1263557621803618310 (https://twitter.com/EmilyGorcenski/status/1263557621803618310)'And now CDC tells us it does NOT easily spread from surfaces!'
https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1263657736920801281 (https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1263657736920801281)
This guy that wank dad bod
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1263656316637188099 (https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1263656316637188099)
CO2!
https://twitter.com/susandiskin/status/1263650039538176000 (https://twitter.com/susandiskin/status/1263650039538176000)
Fuck this guy
https://twitter.com/dadblood69/status/1263640270425296896 (https://twitter.com/dadblood69/status/1263640270425296896)
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1263675874156707840 (https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1263675874156707840)
I want receipts
Post by: EchoRin on May 22, 2020, 03:25:10 AM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/05/21/coronavirus-news-what-cdc-saying-covid-19-surfaces/5235317002/
Post by: Momo on May 22, 2020, 05:38:50 AM
Post by: Momo on May 22, 2020, 11:00:08 AM
Post by: Tripon on May 22, 2020, 01:34:41 PM
https://twitter.com/hasanthehun/status/1263866742004039680
https://twitter.com/jemelehill/status/1263871146258100229
:dead
Post by: Nintex on May 22, 2020, 01:39:50 PM
Post by: team filler on May 22, 2020, 01:42:48 PM
Post by: Momo on May 22, 2020, 02:02:43 PM
Post by: Tripon on May 22, 2020, 03:14:14 PM
Sam Seder did a 4 parter with the Costco guy. :lol
Post by: Oblivion on May 22, 2020, 07:35:20 PM
I dunno if he's linked up with any of the other IDW members, but that @primalpoly guy is absolutely wank dad material.
Never came up here, though.
i've seen that dude pop up occasionally over the months but i never posted him here cause i eventually got blocked for some reason
Post by: benjipwns on May 22, 2020, 07:53:31 PM
Also, the Wank Dad tends to force all subjects into a few repeated ones. They aren't really into "politics" so much as certain subjects and they try to force all political subjects into them. This isn't because of a messaging goal, which a politician would have, it's because of their own obsessions. Similarly, their solutions tend to be similarly limited and related entirely to what they do know such as Peterson solving Marxism through remaking your life through based psychology and Soviet medicine. Or Film Robert's desire to stop the unwashed from denying his promised future by literally having Mario stomp on them all. Or Stefan Molyneaux also solving the problem of Marxism through the mass breeding of white people.
Where I might discount Roberto is that unlike Peterson and Molyneaux, nobody is saying "wow, you're right, tell me more" (The Escapist has told him the exact opposite in fact) and thus erasing the first condition I presented.
Post by: Oblivion on May 22, 2020, 09:01:38 PM
Angela Nagle and Michael Tracey wrote an article about how Bernie lost because of the Maoist ultraleft if some of you who enjoy torturing yourselves want to read it, personally I will not be doing so
I read it. Summary: Bernie got woke, went broke.
well i certainly didn't expect that
Post by: Mandark on May 22, 2020, 10:06:10 PM
Post by: shosta on May 22, 2020, 11:01:48 PM
for jake :lol
Post by: Tripon on May 22, 2020, 11:54:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf93nfm2U2o
Are you ready for the wankiest wank?
Post by: team filler on May 23, 2020, 12:22:40 AM
Post by: Momo on May 23, 2020, 01:55:26 AM
Post by: VomKriege on May 23, 2020, 03:29:12 AM
Did you ever wonder how Ben Shapiro would write black characters in a fiction ? It's as good as you would expect.
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/what-we-learned-from-ben-shapiros-61013395/ (https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/what-we-learned-from-ben-shapiros-61013395/)spoiler (click to show/hide)"He was the star player of the school's team. No one knew his real name."
:brain[close]
They did another episode recently to keep on reading Shapiro's novel from 2016 and the following chapters have :
- An Al Sharpton expy in cahoots with a Detroit crack dealer to send a 8 year old black kid provoke a cop into shooting him.
- The wife of the protagonist action general escaping a kidnapping attempt by the Cartel.
- Iraqi Weapons of Mass Destruction were buried in the desert or transferred to Syria. Did you really believe the best intelligence agencies in the world could have that wrong ?
Edit :
Also the President is not taking the calls of and berating Texas state governor Bubba Davis that only want to implement measures for the safety of its constituents.
:trumps
spoiler (click to show/hide)
By sending troops to the border but, you know, still...
:society
:society
[close]
- Bubba Davis is a John Galt type & a trustfund baby who only ran as governor because the Environmentalists funded by the Saudis were trying to regulate oil drilling and it would have bankrupted his company.
- Several of the American heroes are "a bear of a man" and apparently the only "short" people are shifty Arab and Russian types.
:juicy
Post by: shosta on May 23, 2020, 08:50:42 AM
Post by: Tripon on May 23, 2020, 11:17:35 AM
https://twitter.com/jakeychainz/status/1263906137528623104
Biden Bros feeling themselves
Post by: team filler on May 23, 2020, 01:39:41 PM
Post by: Nintex on May 23, 2020, 01:44:23 PM
https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/1264031987943247873I applaud Portnoy for turning a contract dispute into such an entertaining drama.
Post by: team filler on May 23, 2020, 03:41:41 PM
bring it back, bae :-[
https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1264280980245770240
I'd lick that fivehead :drool
Post by: team filler on May 23, 2020, 04:35:46 PM
:heart
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 23, 2020, 04:55:42 PM
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 23, 2020, 05:08:35 PM
Post by: team filler on May 23, 2020, 05:13:42 PM
Quote
'less chance of getting aids if fucking bareback hookers in crackhouses'
this one is true :-[ proven it several times over :expert
Post by: EchoRin on May 23, 2020, 05:30:16 PM
I mean the initial idea just kind of boggles the mind. One big "why". Unless it was originally just some kind of sexual fetish that somehow spiraled and morphed into modern day reasons for circumcisions being performed.
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 23, 2020, 05:58:19 PM
Post by: Mandark on May 23, 2020, 05:59:55 PM
Post by: Rufus on May 23, 2020, 06:01:52 PM
I mean in all honesty how the hell did circumcision ever become a trend? Like I know it goes back to ancient times, but exactly how the hell did it become spread all around the globe?Cause masturbation bad, m'kay?
I mean the initial idea just kind of boggles the mind. One big "why". Unless it was originally just some kind of sexual fetish that somehow spiraled and morphed into modern day reasons for circumcisions being performed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_circumcision#Revival_in_the_English-speaking_world
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 23, 2020, 06:21:07 PM
Fellas.... This account is great
https://twitter.com/Trad_West_Arch/status/1263590358585233409
https://twitter.com/Trad_West_Arch/status/1263235847396233216
https://twitter.com/Trad_West_Arch/status/1263885341326487553
https://twitter.com/Trad_West_Arch/status/1260983966674321410
https://twitter.com/AllPassingThing/status/1262354856427347968
:dead
Post by: EchoRin on May 23, 2020, 06:27:09 PM
:girlaff
Post by: team filler on May 23, 2020, 06:54:06 PM
Post by: team filler on May 23, 2020, 07:22:28 PM
:pimp
Post by: Oblivion on May 23, 2020, 07:25:53 PM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on May 23, 2020, 09:20:13 PM
Post by: shosta on May 23, 2020, 09:34:15 PM
Post by: shosta on May 23, 2020, 09:35:45 PM
https://twitter.com/pastramimachine/status/1263937115684892674
:dead
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 23, 2020, 10:36:41 PM
Post by: Mandark on May 24, 2020, 12:11:02 AM
(https://jadedmediablog.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/rust.jpg?w=730)
Post by: shosta on May 24, 2020, 12:12:14 AM
Post by: shosta on May 24, 2020, 12:15:12 AM
Ngl, this copyright infringement makes me super mad >:(
Post by: OnlyRegret on May 24, 2020, 02:07:40 AM
Tbh I kind of like brutalist architecture but only when it's built from the ground up and not to replace shit for ideological reasons
yes, brutalism is good if you want the surrounding """buildings""" to submit to you
Post by: OnlyRegret on May 24, 2020, 02:13:33 AM
https://twitter.com/Julian_Epp/status/1264323016554668032
reclaim your traditions, white man
Post by: D3RANG3D on May 24, 2020, 02:52:54 AM
Post by: BIONIC on May 24, 2020, 09:11:52 AM
https://twitter.com/nobody_stop_me/status/1256398347411361795
:drool
Finally, some proper wank content in this thread :rejoice
Post by: kingv on May 24, 2020, 11:43:00 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 24, 2020, 11:44:58 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 24, 2020, 12:22:46 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 24, 2020, 12:23:46 PM
Post by: Oblivion on May 24, 2020, 12:53:45 PM
Is JP dead or what?
nah, just braindead
Post by: Tripon on May 24, 2020, 01:24:19 PM
Post by: Tripon on May 24, 2020, 01:37:58 PM
https://twitter.com/beauisaviking/status/1263581559140937729
https://twitter.com/OyezOyezTribune/status/1263576809045663744
https://twitter.com/BailandC/status/1263579967071195137
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1262446935761399816
https://twitter.com/ludimila333/status/1262473972672868366
:brain :brain :brain
Post by: EchoRin on May 24, 2020, 02:58:26 PM
:lol :lol :lol :lol
:success
Post by: curly on May 24, 2020, 05:41:54 PM
The limits of the wonk mind illustrated
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 24, 2020, 06:38:27 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/bvsT5tq.gif)
...just calculated
Post by: Tripon on May 24, 2020, 09:38:34 PM
Post by: shosta on May 24, 2020, 09:54:05 PM
Did someone post this yet? :rofl
Post by: team filler on May 25, 2020, 12:07:47 PM
jordys daughter :leonhttps://twitter.com/JarJarFan69/status/1264058923268464640
:whew
Post by: team filler on May 25, 2020, 12:20:09 PM
https://youtu.be/M5s1mrcgi_cit's great how the guests have no clue they're insulting him, because nobody bothers with joe's garbage stand-up shows :lol
Did someone post this yet? :rofl
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 25, 2020, 12:37:26 PM
https://twitter.com/schmackelstan/status/1264093414620041216
Umm you don't have permission to post my 2010 photos here asshole.
Post by: Oblivion on May 26, 2020, 01:06:12 PM
is 'stoolfucking' an actual thing? :doge
Post by: Mandark on May 26, 2020, 03:06:12 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 26, 2020, 03:06:56 PM
Post by: shosta on May 26, 2020, 03:09:24 PM
Post by: Mandark on May 26, 2020, 03:11:19 PM
If it weren't for this thread, I wouldn't know that Hindus, by virtue of not being monotheists and having no concept of morality, are cannibals. I thought lots of them were vegetarians!
Post by: shosta on May 26, 2020, 03:17:39 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 26, 2020, 03:23:10 PM
Quote
"Oh, oh! This fiery height! Oh, oh! My feet of fire! My burning feet of fire!"is about yiffing.
Post by: OnlyRegret on May 26, 2020, 05:12:29 PM
https://twitter.com/GandalftheWhi19/status/1262526568196386816
Post by: Tripon on May 27, 2020, 05:56:48 PM
Candanxe Owens is bad at this.
Post by: team filler on May 27, 2020, 06:09:31 PM
https://twitter.com/repjohnlewis/status/751432205826715648
(https://i.imgur.com/xK4s6Gp.jpg)
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 28, 2020, 01:22:37 PM
Nice to see the discourse get more honest as time goes on.
99% of wank daddery is just working out sexual frustrations
Post by: team filler on May 28, 2020, 02:48:39 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/rMfHr4x.png)
Post by: Tripon on May 29, 2020, 10:04:09 AM
Candance.owens is bad at this..
Post by: Nintex on May 29, 2020, 07:05:30 PM
Wank dads getting ethered lately
Post by: benjipwns on May 29, 2020, 11:27:04 PM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1266485841293193217
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 30, 2020, 08:54:47 AM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 09:21:02 AM
Post by: benjipwns on May 31, 2020, 02:02:00 AM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1266731692691197953
Post by: Nintex on May 31, 2020, 11:56:30 AM
Wank dad keeps losing lmao
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 31, 2020, 12:46:53 PM
Post by: Tripon on May 31, 2020, 01:06:19 PM
Krystal Ball is so mad in this video. :lol
Post by: VomKriege on May 31, 2020, 02:13:39 PM
https://twitter.com/sreddi_515/status/1266599638766956544
Post by: Mandark on May 31, 2020, 02:44:38 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 31, 2020, 02:58:04 PM
https://twitter.com/MattBruenig/status/1266880314737115143
My dad said he didn’t even try on defense. A lot of times he wouldn’t even run down the court.
Post by: Nintex on May 31, 2020, 03:41:45 PM
I knew I was right to sell Wank Dads and invest heavily in Wank Mommies.Fact check: true
https://twitter.com/JCMorenoGarcia/status/1266540474736746496 (https://twitter.com/JCMorenoGarcia/status/1266540474736746496)
Post by: team filler on May 31, 2020, 05:36:47 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on May 31, 2020, 07:26:52 PM
https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1266528495871627265
https://twitter.com/SpikerIsAwesome/status/1266840664764973056
Post by: team filler on May 31, 2020, 11:45:19 PM
:pimp niccas in china
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 01, 2020, 12:16:12 AM
Post by: Nintex on June 01, 2020, 07:08:13 AM
Post by: Tripon on June 01, 2020, 11:09:24 AM
:era
Post by: Oblivion on June 01, 2020, 02:47:23 PM
:lol
https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1266528495871627265
https://twitter.com/SpikerIsAwesome/status/1266840664764973056
https://twitter.com/Xenos_RIFS/status/1267219544075993088
Post by: curly on June 01, 2020, 03:05:40 PM
https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1267294533793902594
:pimp niccas in china
::) pls Cali's going back to Mexico. Viva la raza
Post by: EchoRin on June 01, 2020, 03:35:22 PM
https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1267472132038156288
:era
https://twitter.com/PotatoOfDestiny/status/1267473138268413955
Right right
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 03:37:49 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 01, 2020, 03:44:19 PM
Post by: EchoRin on June 01, 2020, 03:48:24 PM
pls Mexico and the North Mexico Buffer Rump State of America are all going to the Canadian Empire.
I'll take it. I need my Tim Hortons here in Illinois.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 03:50:12 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 03:58:26 PM
Post by: EchoRin on June 01, 2020, 04:04:23 PM
Tim Hortons is no longer a Canadian thing and been in decline since it merged with Burger King.
:thinking I never really noticed a difference over the years, but I pretty much only eat the bagels with cream cheese and vanilla dip donuts and hot coco when I go to Timmies.
And, huh, the one I visited most when I was still in Michigan was connected with a Wendy's of all things.
Post by: Tripon on June 01, 2020, 04:04:23 PM
America is a divided, hostile, barbaric country and I think residential schools are the solution.
Isn't that where the Canadians raped your 1st nation children population?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 04:09:57 PM
Quote
The Canadian government developed a policy called "aggressive assimilation" to be taught at church-run, government-funded industrial schools, later called residential schools. The government felt children were easier to mold than adults, and the concept of a boarding school was the best way to prepare them for life in mainstream society.
which is good because American's population is mostly made of malleable man-children who need to be prepared for modern society.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on June 01, 2020, 07:39:50 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1267599019305349120
Post by: naff on June 02, 2020, 09:19:24 PM
https://twitter.com/repjohnlewis/status/751432205826715648
wait, i saw someone post this and thought it was a sarcastic statement by an official highlighting the absurdity of the expectation by seemingly many against the protests that being beaten, and seeing your peers being beaten, is not justification for being angry. you should still respect rule of law etc. this is earnest? sheesh.
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 02, 2020, 09:22:40 PM
https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/1266874441197326338sounds like the US should’ve...cleaned its room? :kermit
Post by: team filler on June 03, 2020, 09:33:09 AM
https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1268170512087171074
syrian queen is a kpop stan :-[
Post by: shosta on June 03, 2020, 11:33:24 AM
Got me fucked up good
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 03, 2020, 11:53:58 AM
Post by: shosta on June 03, 2020, 12:07:57 PM
Post by: Tripon on June 03, 2020, 12:17:37 PM
Are you interested in cooking from home? You should try this precooked, preseasoned chicken that's been kept hot for you all day and that everyone has already most definitely seen
You can break the chicken up and serve it in soup and use the bones in a broth. It's actually not the whackiest idea to use a pre-cooked bird to use as a base for something else.
Post by: shosta on June 03, 2020, 12:18:27 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 03, 2020, 01:29:45 PM
The word carceral means the act of binge eating cereal and imprisoning it in your belly
No, I'm pretty sure it's a medium-sized wildcat native to Africa, the Middle East, Central Asia, and India.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 01:34:06 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 03, 2020, 01:39:50 PM
That's an ocelot, dawg
No, that's a small wild cat native to the southwestern United States, Mexico, and Central and South America
Post by: shosta on June 03, 2020, 01:45:14 PM
no his name is shostakovich(https://i.imgur.com/ZbLIq4x.png)
Post by: Nintex on June 03, 2020, 01:49:02 PM
https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/1266874441197326338Does Ian still play with puppets like Prince Andrew?
Post by: shosta on June 03, 2020, 11:13:44 PM
Post by: Mandark on June 03, 2020, 11:22:49 PM
Post by: team filler on June 04, 2020, 01:59:16 AM
:curious
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 04, 2020, 10:32:28 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 04, 2020, 11:08:53 AM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on June 04, 2020, 03:38:59 PM
Scott Adams really underestimates how a bad movie can drive someone to :rage
Lol, we’ve gone full circle on Joker.
Post by: Tripon on June 04, 2020, 04:00:13 PM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 04, 2020, 05:18:23 PM
Quote
If the answer is yes, it means that the view of more than half of Americans are unacceptable. And perhaps they are.it’s like, they get it, but they also don’t?
Post by: Mandark on June 04, 2020, 05:21:39 PM
Bret Stephens is going to write a column about Louis CK and cancel culture when daily COVID19 deaths top 2000.
Awarding myself partial credit for this.
Post by: Tripon on June 04, 2020, 05:23:42 PM
It's time for Rubin posting to begin in this thread.
Post by: Mandark on June 04, 2020, 06:20:30 PM
Let's goooooooooo
Post by: shosta on June 04, 2020, 06:26:53 PM
Post by: Mandark on June 04, 2020, 06:29:01 PM
Post by: shosta on June 04, 2020, 06:45:46 PM
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/101535988_604302690191654_7275591105259765760_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_sid=b96e70&_nc_ohc=8SA1Sd5f11kAX_n2eMF&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&oh=e52515b5d05ef480ee2ac815883ba798&oe=5EFD3AE5)
And one dude who went to highschool with us completely lost his shit, said the education system had truely [sic] failed her, called her a racist fuck, really went nuts. There was a lot of back and forth but eventually other people from highschool got in on the action and started talking about how this guy used to walk around doing nazi salutes and making hitler jokes. Finally there were quite a few girls who revealed that he had a pretty long history of sending unsolicited dick pics and they absolutely dragged his ass for miles. Justice June :lawd
my very small contribution:
(https://i.imgur.com/bDVdgoA.png)
Post by: shosta on June 04, 2020, 06:49:36 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 04, 2020, 07:06:33 PM
Post by: team filler on June 04, 2020, 09:36:56 PM
Post by: shosta on June 05, 2020, 12:01:39 AM
Be some 25 year old and fuck up the Times all on your own, brehs :dead
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 05, 2020, 12:09:01 AM
Post by: Rufus on June 05, 2020, 11:21:07 AM
Post by: Tripon on June 05, 2020, 12:49:53 PM
Bari Weiss thrown under the bus. :lol
Post by: shosta on June 05, 2020, 02:15:32 PM
Uhhhh yeah I work at the bad take factory
Post by: Brehvolution on June 05, 2020, 02:41:10 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 05, 2020, 02:45:23 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 05, 2020, 02:54:01 PM
:lol
He took down his "WOKE GAME COMPANIES, DO NOT SUPPORT" list after dirty libs started using it in bad faith.
Post by: Nintex on June 05, 2020, 07:50:01 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on June 06, 2020, 01:25:10 AM
:aah
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1267922687608999936
Post by: OnlyRegret on June 06, 2020, 01:29:55 AM
https://twitter.com/Trad_West_Arch/status/1268125154296713216
Post by: Mandark on June 06, 2020, 05:36:24 AM
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 06, 2020, 09:40:29 AM
Also good vibes
:aah
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1267922687608999936
:rejoice
Post by: curly on June 06, 2020, 01:49:23 PM
Post by: VomKriege on June 06, 2020, 02:34:54 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 06, 2020, 02:35:37 PM
Post by: VomKriege on June 06, 2020, 02:47:16 PM
:brain
Post by: Oblivion on June 06, 2020, 06:54:11 PM
https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1268900842381475840
i gave laffer way too much credit. i legit thought this was someone trying to dunk on him. :doge
Post by: team filler on June 06, 2020, 07:55:41 PM
My podcast app said I'd like the Jordan Peterson podcast and the Joe Rogan Experience :fbm:kermit
Bodied by my own data :fbm
Post by: OnlyRegret on June 06, 2020, 07:55:58 PM
My podcast app said I'd like the Jordan Peterson podcast and the Joe Rogan Experience :fbm
Bodied by my own data :fbm
hate listening leads to despair
if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee
Post by: OnlyRegret on June 06, 2020, 07:56:36 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 06, 2020, 07:59:16 PM
Post by: team filler on June 06, 2020, 09:02:56 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-XGpZ7AmiY/My podcast app said I'd like the Jordan Peterson podcast and the Joe Rogan Experience :fbm
Bodied by my own data :fbm
Stare into the wank abyss long enough...
Post by: EchoRin on June 07, 2020, 12:34:29 AM
edit: Uhh, wtf. I just got an ad for Sam Hyde on instagram. Haven't thought about that turd bucket in years. I don't even know what would trigger that ad.
Post by: team filler on June 07, 2020, 03:01:17 AM
Post by: VomKriege on June 07, 2020, 04:08:53 AM
https://twitter.com/KyleKulinski/status/738446977218793473
Well, back then it was "Dirty Talk" and not "Secular Talk". :cenk
Post by: Nintex on June 07, 2020, 07:33:52 AM
:lol
Post by: VomKriege on June 07, 2020, 12:31:00 PM
Post by: curly on June 07, 2020, 04:23:01 PM
lmao
Post by: Oblivion on June 07, 2020, 08:22:16 PM
:noooo :noooo :noooo
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 07, 2020, 09:40:22 PM
Post by: shosta on June 07, 2020, 11:50:42 PM
Quote
They argued that elements of Bennet’s op-ed page — including Weiss, deputy editor James Dao (who oversaw the Cotton piece), and columnist Bret Stephens — have elevated trolling the Times’s liberal readership into a kind of raison d’être, one that has led to the publication of poor-quality material and damaged the ability of other staffers to do their jobs.This line alone made the whole read worth it
edit: I guess you do have a use for Vox style journalism after all :smug
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 07, 2020, 11:53:11 PM
Quote
Weiss, deputy editor James Dao (who oversaw the Cotton piece), and columnist Bret Stephens
The NYT Unholy Trinity
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 08, 2020, 12:27:58 AM
Post by: team filler on June 08, 2020, 12:31:07 AM
Post by: Oblivion on June 08, 2020, 01:05:45 AM
QuoteWeiss, deputy editor James Dao (who oversaw the Cotton piece), and columnist Bret Stephens
The NYT Unholy Trinity
missing david brooks
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 08, 2020, 02:19:34 AM
Post by: Tripon on June 08, 2020, 09:20:56 AM
Post by: Tripon on June 08, 2020, 11:33:07 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 08, 2020, 11:43:48 AM
We have gun control laws? :lol
Post by: shosta on June 08, 2020, 12:07:46 PM
Post by: Tripon on June 08, 2020, 12:15:37 PM
Post by: EchoRin on June 08, 2020, 12:48:46 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/IT6tXNj_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high)
I don't even know who this guy is anymore or his general stances. Google his name and instead some Colorado profesor shows up (who even has a Wikipedia page).
Oh well
Post by: Oblivion on June 08, 2020, 04:11:40 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/IT6tXNj_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high)
I don't even know who this guy is anymore or his general stances. Google his name and instead some Colorado profesor shows up (who even has a Wikipedia page).
Oh well
a former young turks reporter whose claim to fame was whining that he got brutally murdered by maxine waters back in 2016.
Post by: Brehvolution on June 08, 2020, 04:18:59 PM
I just realized that once Trump leaves the White House, he's going to be a Wank Dad until he dies.
Does Gitmo allow inmates to do podcasts?
Post by: Mandark on June 08, 2020, 09:53:33 PM
"Place of comfort"
:thinking
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 08, 2020, 09:56:10 PM
Post by: Mandark on June 08, 2020, 10:00:29 PM
Post by: shosta on June 08, 2020, 10:02:58 PM
Didn't know where to put this :lol
Post by: Mandark on June 08, 2020, 10:29:56 PM
:pika
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 08, 2020, 11:46:18 PM
Dreher finding out Czechia's super aethist after moving there and selling his house in America.
:pika
Maybe they have a reality tv star over there who would be willing to awkwardly hold a Bible to make it feel more like home.
Post by: EchoRin on June 09, 2020, 12:31:02 AM
"Non-white or muslim?" You won't get shot, but I guarantee you that you are being referred to as "mudslime" or "taman (chink)" by the local whites. And sometimes not even out of hatred. Diet racism is just sort of part of the diet when talking to other fellow white Czechs. Especially outside of Prague.
The joys of a homogeneous society. I'm sure those US conservatives wouldn't mind that
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 09, 2020, 09:59:16 AM
Good on him
Post by: Oblivion on June 09, 2020, 10:38:33 AM
Post by: Mandark on June 09, 2020, 10:41:27 AM
Post by: team filler on June 10, 2020, 03:21:47 AM
:delicious
Post by: Nintex on June 10, 2020, 07:33:13 AM
https://twitter.com/icecube/status/1270503483213398016 (https://twitter.com/icecube/status/1270503483213398016)
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 10, 2020, 02:35:15 PM
Post by: team filler on June 10, 2020, 04:49:00 PM
Post by: Tripon on June 10, 2020, 04:55:51 PM
So really, black people need to pay reparations to us.
I admit, I didn't expect slavery is really a multi-generational unpaid internship talking point to come out of all of this.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 10, 2020, 05:00:58 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 11, 2020, 11:28:17 AM
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1271089344846102536
:era
Post by: VomKriege on June 11, 2020, 05:11:23 PM
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1271089344846102536
:era
:science
Post by: Oblivion on June 11, 2020, 06:04:05 PM
Post by: EchoRin on June 11, 2020, 06:27:38 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2020, 06:29:46 PM
Gotta love how Dave has so many homophobic followers and acquaintances
They're all fine with it.
Post by: shosta on June 11, 2020, 11:32:25 PM
Post by: team filler on June 12, 2020, 02:24:41 AM
Post by: Tripon on June 12, 2020, 02:31:47 AM
https://twitter.com/gifdsports/status/1271318306075447299
https://twitter.com/hasanthehun/status/1271323121123913728
Post by: Mandark on June 12, 2020, 05:44:33 AM
Post by: Nintex on June 12, 2020, 01:36:06 PM
Post by: Nintex on June 12, 2020, 08:20:49 PM
The wankest of dads :rejoice
Watched about an hour so far, some interesting stuff about how young talent gets fucked over in the entertainment business.
Post by: Transhuman on June 12, 2020, 09:01:56 PM
Watched about an hour so far, some interesting stuff about how young talent gets fucked over in the entertainment business.
What's the timecode on that?
Oh wait they're talking about podcasts :nope
Post by: curly on June 12, 2020, 10:26:48 PM
https://taibbi.substack.com/p/the-news-media-is-destroying-itself
Da free press is dead 😭😭😭QuoteBut police violence, and Trump’s daily assaults on the presidential competence standard, are only part of the disaster. On the other side of the political aisle, among self-described liberals, we’re watching an intellectual revolution. It feels liberating to say after years of tiptoeing around the fact, but the American left has lost its mind. It’s become a cowardly mob of upper-class social media addicts, Twitter Robespierres who move from discipline to discipline torching reputations and jobs with breathtaking casualness.
The leaders of this new movement are replacing traditional liberal beliefs about tolerance, free inquiry, and even racial harmony with ideas so toxic and unattractive that they eschew debate, moving straight to shaming, threats, and intimidation. They are counting on the guilt-ridden, self-flagellating nature of traditional American progressives, who will not stand up for themselves, and will walk to the Razor voluntarily.
Love the equivalence drawn in the opening paragraphs between the pandemic, endemic police brutality, Trump's presidency and...internal drama at legacy media outlets
horseshoe theory but for the 00s anti-establishment left and contemporary wank-daddery and the convergence spot is news media navel gazing
God that piece is embarrassing. And I used to like Taibbi :existential
Post by: Oblivion on June 12, 2020, 10:55:13 PM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 12, 2020, 11:11:36 PM
might be interesting if other scions of the bush era media resistance felt similarly
Post by: Mandark on June 12, 2020, 11:12:38 PM
It'd be weird if he didn't react like this.
Post by: Oblivion on June 13, 2020, 12:05:08 AM
Post by: Mandark on June 13, 2020, 12:09:29 AM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 13, 2020, 12:25:47 AM
Post by: shosta on June 13, 2020, 12:37:47 AM
He's a white guy.He's Filipino! :bolo
Post by: Mandark on June 13, 2020, 12:41:06 AM
Post by: shosta on June 13, 2020, 12:42:18 AM
Post by: Mandark on June 13, 2020, 12:44:17 AM
Post by: shosta on June 13, 2020, 12:44:54 AM
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 13, 2020, 01:06:56 AM
Maher and Taibbi Lament Media's Trump Obsessions Distort Coronavirus Coverage (https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/brad-wilmouth/2020/05/02/maher-and-taibbi-lament-medias-trump-obsessions-distort)
:era
Post by: Nintex on June 13, 2020, 05:58:52 PM
:whew
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 13, 2020, 10:59:08 PM
This was a trip
Post by: benjipwns on June 13, 2020, 11:36:46 PM
Quote
The Canadian psychology professor Jordan Peterson is currently in Belgrade and undergoing treatments in an unnamed clinic in the Serbia’s capital, the weekly news magazine Nedeljnik can reveal.
His daughter Mikhaila is with him and spoke to Nedeljnik about his ongoing fight with the addiction to anti-anxiety medication.
“We will be here for at least a couple of months”, Mikhaila told Nedeljnik in a wide-ranging interview in Belgrade that will be published in the next issue of Nedeljnik.
They flew in to Belgrade from Florida last week.
She said Mr Peterson was feeling better and that the family is satisfied with the first round of therapy.
Peterson’s family sought treatment for his “physical dependency” to benzodiazepine in Russia in February, after failed attempts in North America.
Peterson will make a video explaining the details of his ordeal in the next week, Mikhaila Peterson told Nedeljnik.
Post by: shosta on June 14, 2020, 01:31:45 AM
Post by: Rufus on June 14, 2020, 04:50:28 AM
I expect some quack "healer" to be involved, just because it's Serbia.
Post by: VomKriege on June 14, 2020, 04:52:36 AM
Post by: Rufus on June 14, 2020, 04:57:43 AM
Post by: VomKriege on June 14, 2020, 09:11:22 AM
https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1195211375376658432
https://www.dailydot.com/debug/dave-rubin-steak-prank/ (https://www.dailydot.com/debug/dave-rubin-steak-prank/)
@google @jack got a policy on this !? :karen
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 14, 2020, 11:56:52 AM
Post by: shosta on June 14, 2020, 12:01:05 PM
Post by: Tripon on June 14, 2020, 12:21:08 PM
:dead
Post by: Oblivion on June 14, 2020, 04:20:10 PM
https://www.nedeljnik.rs/jordan-peterson-seeks-treatment-in-serbia-nedeljnik-can-reveal/QuoteThe Canadian psychology professor Jordan Peterson is currently in Belgrade and undergoing treatments in an unnamed clinic in the Serbia’s capital, the weekly news magazine Nedeljnik can reveal.
His daughter Mikhaila is with him and spoke to Nedeljnik about his ongoing fight with the addiction to anti-anxiety medication.
“We will be here for at least a couple of months”, Mikhaila told Nedeljnik in a wide-ranging interview in Belgrade that will be published in the next issue of Nedeljnik.
They flew in to Belgrade from Florida last week.
She said Mr Peterson was feeling better and that the family is satisfied with the first round of therapy.
Peterson’s family sought treatment for his “physical dependency” to benzodiazepine in Russia in February, after failed attempts in North America.
Peterson will make a video explaining the details of his ordeal in the next week, Mikhaila Peterson told Nedeljnik.
i'll believe it when i see it
Post by: Oblivion on June 14, 2020, 06:00:48 PM
Post by: VomKriege on June 14, 2020, 06:39:38 PM
Going to Russia to get put into a coma and then going to Serbia because of an addiction to benzos is about as sus as you can possibly get
Check you Western-centric bias. :wag
But yeah, it seems they're hell bent on alternative treatments, away from public attention, possibly (though that one is a bit of fancy reaching) with some sentimentality / vague political alignments thrown in.
Post by: Mandark on June 14, 2020, 11:19:47 PM
The roster of guests on his podcast, though.
Post by: Oblivion on June 14, 2020, 11:55:04 PM
Post by: curly on June 15, 2020, 12:13:48 AM
Post by: Oblivion on June 15, 2020, 12:54:19 AM
Post by: VomKriege on June 15, 2020, 01:57:42 AM
I should have called it these dudes always run to Chomsky in any dispute with the left
I honestly have a better knowledge of Chomsky as this sacred cow that get begged into being used as cover (infamously prefacing a book that was pretty transparently Holocaust denial, for instance) than his actual work.
:lol
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 15, 2020, 09:53:23 AM
Post by: Tripon on June 15, 2020, 10:02:35 AM
Knives coming for Matty g
Post by: Oblivion on June 15, 2020, 03:33:20 PM
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/06/has-the-american-left-lost-its-mind
also, i had no idea taibbi also sided with tom fucking cotton in the recent NYT kerfuffle. looks like the lad is too far gone at this point :fbm
Post by: Mandark on June 15, 2020, 04:04:28 PM
my man, nathan j. robinson has a nice takedown of the taibbi drama:
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/06/has-the-american-left-lost-its-mind
also, i had no idea taibbi also sided with tom fucking cotton in the recent NYT kerfuffle. looks like the lad is too far gone at this point :fbm
Robinson's pretty good when he's staying away from the void of screaming insanity that is Democratic Party internal politics.
Someone on Twitter said that Taibbi's personality made him susceptible to "Hitchens brain" and I think that describes a common thread through the IDW guys, older New Republic types like Andrew Sullivan, and left-adjacent controversialists like Michael Tracey: a commitment to contrarianism and the belief that they're lonely voices bravely calling out a corrupt power structure, combined with a difficulty distinguishing between actual important power centers and their own social circles*.
Assimilate's schtick of "yeah Trump's not good, but these fucking sjw tumblr girls are the REAL problem" was basically the coloring-book version of the same thing.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
*Or depending on their level of apostasy, their former social circles. The Former Leftist Media Personality grift is like making a career out of posting in the shit thread.
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Post by: Mandark on June 15, 2020, 04:25:29 PM
Post by: VomKriege on June 15, 2020, 04:51:02 PM
Taibbi called people "Twitter Robespierres" as a diss. He's been published in Jacobin!
Well, to be fair, Robespierre left them as soon as 1794.
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 15, 2020, 05:22:19 PM
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I show empirically that disruption seeds mainstream news agendas and that tactics influence the types of issue frames adopted by media.
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Protests are typically contentious events in which media have considerable latitude to emphasize a range of interpretations (Davenport 2009). For example, both nonviolent and violent protests often involved illegal acts that could be described in terms that suggest either civil disobedience or criminal behavior. Similarly, no bright line distinguishes nonviolent and violent disturbances. Many nonviolent events were suffused with violence initiated by police and white civilians, while many events that escalated to protester-initiated violence often began as relatively peaceful, nonviolent affairs. This ambiguity allows for reporting to vary even for factually similar situations. Framing theory suggests that as journalists compose news stories, they rely on recurring organizing ideas and themes that structure how the public makes sense of a story and, often, imply particular public policies
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Around the world, subordinate group activists confront powerful dominant groups and face difficult choices about whether and how to assert their interests. Strategies like nonviolent disruption can grow sympathetic coalitions but may also result in humiliation, injury and death at the hands of police, soldiers and vigilantes. More nationalist-oriented strategies like responding to police violence in- kind can directly counter repression and capture the attention of elites but risk alienating potential allies and provoking even greater social control. In the 1960s, African American activists and thinkers deliberated over both strategies. Ella Baker (2003) and Bayard Rustin (1965) helped organize nonviolent civil disobedience while Malcolm X argued, “I don’t even call it violence when it’s self- defense, I call it intelligence” (1969, 313). A substantial body of work in political science suggests we should expect no meaningful political consequences to follow subordinate group agitation. The results of this article suggest that statistical minorities in stratified democracies can overcome structural biases to influence and frame the news, direct elite discourse, sway public opinion and win at the ballot box. For subordinate groups in democratic polities, though, tactics matter. An “eye for an eye” in response to violent repression may be moral, but this research suggests it may not be strategic.
so it seems like it anticipates some of robinson’s complaints, but doesn’t really have an answer for them. what the technocrolibs are forgetting here is that robinsons point is that the decision on the part of the media to frame riots in a certain way is a morally negligent one and should be countered. which itself might be dumb and a bad use of resources, but it’s not an indictment against statistical research. the criticisms seem to be zeroing in on the choice to label it “bad science” rather than the normative upshot of the passage. it might still be “bad science”, whether for all the normal reasons you’d expect something to be bad science (data manipulation/selection, invalid inferences; none of which any of the interlocutors has bothered to follow up on) or because ‘science’ in this domain has a certain irreducible normative element that shor neglected to account for (the argument here would be one of robinson having a thick vs the voxers having a thin understanding of what knowledge production in the social sciences is supposed to be).
again, these people are prob just talking past each other
Post by: team filler on June 15, 2020, 05:29:25 PM
Post by: Mandark on June 15, 2020, 05:31:53 PM
Post by: EchoRin on June 15, 2020, 05:33:46 PM
Also, interesting website https://www.churchmilitant.com/
Post by: team filler on June 15, 2020, 05:55:01 PM
Post by: team filler on June 15, 2020, 06:02:41 PM
Post by: curly on June 15, 2020, 08:20:16 PM
Robinson's pretty good when he's staying away from the void of screaming insanity that is Democratic Party internal politics.
His take on contemporary architecture is radioactively bad
Post by: shosta on June 15, 2020, 09:29:35 PM
Quote from: etiolate
I keep getting the house fire argument about all lives matter. So none of them know about a Duncan Lemp.
Really tempted to just start shitposting on FB. If you post a Thomas Sowell or Glenn Loury they just don't process it.
Quote from: etiolate
-2 points 2 days ago
I'm becoming well aware BLM reflects more of a just black lives matter rather than a black lives matter too mentality.
Post by: Tripon on June 15, 2020, 10:06:10 PM
Post by: Transhuman on June 15, 2020, 10:47:11 PM
Post by: Oblivion on June 15, 2020, 11:03:13 PM
A couple weeks ago everyone made fun of him for his views on marx which was funny. I got to see pictures of all his leopard print suits
people also got real mad at him for his (admittedly kind of bad) takedown of zizek
Post by: team filler on June 15, 2020, 11:10:42 PM
Post by: benjipwns on June 16, 2020, 01:53:46 AM
It's like watching a school bully pick on an incel. From what I was able to see of Gutfeld from a quick youtube search, he shouldn't be throwing stones on the topic of who is and isn't a talentless performer, good christ.Greg is talentless but he's right about Crowder completely, at least as to his appearances on Red Eye, which was on at 3AM and leaned towards "comedy" over anything else. Crowder would always claim and hide behind "comedian" then never do comedy, just boring punditry. Conservative pundits/news people would do comedy better than Crowder would. This argument with Schumer is the one he's referencing and a perfect example of what Crowder would do every time he came on the show:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMKbqdhF77Y
Schumer apologizes because she had been on the show for years so knew what its style was about and Crowder was always more tantalized by being on Fox News thinking it was Hannity or something. Another time he tried to debate abortion with another comedian (and probably Imogen) on a 3AM "comedy" show. Greg and Bill were constantly having to throw him lifelines to try and bail him out and he'd never get it. He was a bad guest then and he still sucks, even worse, he's Canadian.
Post by: Transhuman on June 16, 2020, 02:43:12 AM
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Crowder is so shit it almost evens out though
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Post by: benjipwns on June 16, 2020, 02:51:16 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/6yLQ85j.jpg)
Post by: Mandark on June 16, 2020, 05:20:03 AM
Robinson's pretty good when he's staying away from the void of screaming insanity that is Democratic Party internal politics.
His take on contemporary architecture is radioactively bad
And like a couple hours after I posted this he told someone on twitter that the Bell Curve was "painstakingly" researched. :-\
Post by: Tripon on June 16, 2020, 12:09:12 PM
At least he's passed just the flu, bro phase.
Post by: Flannel Boy on June 16, 2020, 12:23:30 PM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1272887413858275338It still always comes back to the flu.
At least he's passed just the flu, bro phase.
The actual death counts for the last six flu seasons have ranged from 3,448 to 15,620. The CDC numbers are generated by multiplying flu death counts by various coefficients, which are based on certain assumptions (I don't think they usually get as high as 80,000 anyway).
So an apples to apples comparison is 3,448 to 15,620 flu deaths without shutdowns, mitigation, and closures vs. 118,520 COVID-19 deaths and counting with shutdowns, mitigation, and closures. :brain
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 16, 2020, 01:27:43 PM
Post by: VomKriege on June 16, 2020, 03:28:58 PM
How are we wrapping back to "the flu tho" arguments as we're about to hit 120k dead and cases and hospitalizations are spiking in all the states that opened the earliest and most aggressively
They painted themselves into a corner and there's nowhere to escape to than repeat the lie enough.
They could admit they were wrong, but you know...
Post by: Oblivion on June 16, 2020, 04:20:23 PM
Robinson's pretty good when he's staying away from the void of screaming insanity that is Democratic Party internal politics.
His take on contemporary architecture is radioactively bad
And like a couple hours after I posted this he told someone on twitter that the Bell Curve was "painstakingly" researched. :-\
he wrote a whole article destroying charles murray. i don't think he supports the bell curve.
Post by: Mandark on June 16, 2020, 04:24:57 PM
By all accounts TBC isn't "painstakingly researched" though, so I'd rather he not concede that point.
Post by: Oblivion on June 16, 2020, 04:39:06 PM
Post by: shosta on June 16, 2020, 05:34:05 PM
finally found a vid, thank you Liz BruenigListening to Charlie Kirk talk to Mark Levin::lol :lol :lol link pls i need some humour at work
"Rousseau was the gateway to Marx... and Plato was the gateway to Rousseau."
https://twitter.com/njhochman/status/1272733117120278528
Post by: BisMarckie on June 16, 2020, 05:42:07 PM
finally found a vid, thank you Liz BruenigListening to Charlie Kirk talk to Mark Levin::lol :lol :lol link pls i need some humour at work
"Rousseau was the gateway to Marx... and Plato was the gateway to Rousseau."
https://twitter.com/njhochman/status/1272733117120278528
I recently read an essay by Ernst Fraenkel, he spent like half of his time dunking on Rousseau for being a totalitarian loon and being the inspiration for fascist philiosophy :doge
Post by: Mandark on June 16, 2020, 05:44:01 PM
So I googled "conservative tiny face" and he was in all the first 10 results.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on June 16, 2020, 06:05:51 PM
finally found a vid, thank you Liz BruenigListening to Charlie Kirk talk to Mark Levin::lol :lol :lol link pls i need some humour at work
"Rousseau was the gateway to Marx... and Plato was the gateway to Rousseau."
https://twitter.com/njhochman/status/1272733117120278528
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Plato also argued against the nuclear family
:dead
Post by: BisMarckie on June 16, 2020, 06:07:51 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 16, 2020, 06:51:05 PM
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/518ee55341142f964abcd8fb8677a4a9/tumblr_o9g4ghdPsg1s3y9slo2_500.gif)
....is anything but.
Post by: Tripon on June 16, 2020, 06:58:30 PM
Dave Rubin is Dave Rubin.
Post by: VomKriege on June 17, 2020, 12:10:21 AM
Blacks ANNIHILATED by Whites
Post by: benjipwns on June 17, 2020, 12:32:41 AM
Post by: benjipwns on June 17, 2020, 12:53:41 AM
Quote
So, earlier today, NBC reported that Google had "banned" two well known websites from its ad platform, namely The Federalist and Zero Hedge. The story was a bit confusing. To be clear, both of those sites are awful and frequently post unmitigated garbage, conspiracy theories, and propaganda. But, it turns out the story was highly misleading, though it will almost certainly be used to push the false narrative that the big internet companies are engaged in "anti-conservative bias" in moderation practices. But that's wrong. Indeed, it appears what happened is exactly what Google has done to us in the past, in saying that because of certain comments people put on our stories, they were pulling any Google ads from appearing on that page. Now we've explained why this is a dumb policy, that only encourages bad comments on sites to try to demonetize them, but it's not got anything to do with "anti-conservative bias." Also, it's just pulling ads from a single page, not across the board.Oh, :fbm
Post by: Tripon on June 17, 2020, 12:58:16 AM
Post by: Mandark on June 17, 2020, 11:05:21 AM
Post by: Tripon on June 17, 2020, 11:27:17 AM
Post by: Mandark on June 17, 2020, 11:29:32 AM
drilcorncob.jpg
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 17, 2020, 11:48:52 AM
:tocry
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 17, 2020, 11:49:15 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/column/rabbit-hole
Post by: shosta on June 17, 2020, 12:29:32 PM
Ezra Klein embracing the non aggression principle :lol
Post by: Mandark on June 17, 2020, 12:52:21 PM
However, I sort of think OSHA should have its own tanks.
Post by: shosta on June 17, 2020, 12:58:28 PM
Quote
It is the truest radicalism, destabilizing to societies built on transaction and domination because it inverts their workings, lays bare their weaknesses, dissolves their core ethic.This quote alone woefully underestimates the deep cruelty of American society.
Post by: Tripon on June 17, 2020, 05:04:43 PM
Post by: Nintex on June 17, 2020, 05:18:33 PM
:lol
Post by: Mandark on June 17, 2020, 09:06:07 PM
From the author of:
https://twitter.com/robinhanson/status/1122269282539274240
and
https://twitter.com/robinhanson/status/989535565895864320
and
https://twitter.com/robinhanson/status/1262573314888925186
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 17, 2020, 09:47:44 PM
Slaves who agreed to be salves :hmm
It’s a different word that highlights its lower moral culpability.
Post by: Tripon on June 18, 2020, 12:42:22 AM
https://twitter.com/AsteadWesley/status/1273293191194836993
https://twitter.com/Theophite/status/1273303723586932738
https://twitter.com/AsteadWesley/status/1273360519706152960
Post by: Mandark on June 18, 2020, 04:56:24 AM
Slaves who agreed to be salves :hmm
It’s a different word that highlights its lower moral culpability.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Soo6oi-6OQ4
Post by: curly on June 18, 2020, 05:35:47 AM
Slaves who agreed to be salves :hmm
I know it's lame to care about Harry Potter's politics but it's pretty crazy that the house elves just loved being slaves
Post by: Mandark on June 18, 2020, 05:51:54 AM
Post by: Tripon on June 19, 2020, 12:47:35 AM
Post by: Mandark on June 19, 2020, 01:23:45 AM
I'm genuinely curious.
Post by: shosta on June 19, 2020, 01:28:22 AM
Post by: shosta on June 19, 2020, 01:29:18 AM
Post by: VomKriege on June 19, 2020, 03:19:12 AM
Post by: Nintex on June 19, 2020, 05:20:49 AM
https://twitter.com/AsteadWesley/status/1273292427940544518Mr. President send Airforce 1 to pick up this Hero :salute
https://twitter.com/AsteadWesley/status/1273293191194836993
https://twitter.com/Theophite/status/1273303723586932738
https://twitter.com/AsteadWesley/status/1273360519706152960
Post by: Oblivion on June 19, 2020, 02:32:12 PM
https://twitter.com/RehabSwitching/status/1273980796999794689
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 19, 2020, 03:13:13 PM
Post by: VomKriege on June 19, 2020, 03:16:11 PM
https://twitter.com/toddstarnes/status/1274008856847355909
Two years ago :
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/todd-starnes-its-time-to-make-a-shocking-confession-about-chick-fil-a (https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/todd-starnes-its-time-to-make-a-shocking-confession-about-chick-fil-a)
:maduro
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 19, 2020, 03:35:27 PM
Quote from: The Robinson piece
I have been on Rising several times, and I have found it to be a refreshingly original show. It has the look and tone of cable news, but is more substantive, and features guests and stories that are excluded from the mainstream networks.
Quote
I concur with most of what Ball and Enjeti write, and just as when I watch Rising, I find myself on board with 95 percent of what Ball says and about 80 percent of what Enjeti says.imagine being a vindictive idiot toward someone who hedges their criticism of your work this much. almost like what they’re really offended at is that someone’s bothering to be a principled lefty. the retreat into ad hominem speaks volumes
Post by: Mandark on June 19, 2020, 03:46:53 PM
:lawd
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 19, 2020, 03:50:44 PM
a long, overwrought articlethis is the best part. its like...10 paragraphs :heh. and nathan robinson isnt exactly james joyce
Post by: Mandark on June 19, 2020, 03:56:03 PM
Eventually his entire political philosophy will just be that he's not mad, and in fact he's laughing right now.
Post by: Oblivion on June 19, 2020, 04:09:17 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 19, 2020, 04:44:29 PM
Post by: team filler on June 19, 2020, 05:47:46 PM
https://twitter.com/Potato_sb/status/1274088887044972547
fauci was james the whole time :kermit
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 19, 2020, 06:33:39 PM
Seen on BillyMitchy's Fred :
https://twitter.com/toddstarnes/status/1274008856847355909
Two years ago :
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/todd-starnes-its-time-to-make-a-shocking-confession-about-chick-fil-a (https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/todd-starnes-its-time-to-make-a-shocking-confession-about-chick-fil-a)
:maduro
Looks like Chick-fil-A is back on the menu, boys! :rejoice
Post by: Mandark on June 19, 2020, 06:53:39 PM
Post by: team filler on June 19, 2020, 07:10:05 PM
homophobe chicken sammies :deliciousSeen on BillyMitchy's Fred :
https://twitter.com/toddstarnes/status/1274008856847355909
Two years ago :
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/todd-starnes-its-time-to-make-a-shocking-confession-about-chick-fil-a (https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/todd-starnes-its-time-to-make-a-shocking-confession-about-chick-fil-a)
:maduro
Looks like Chick-fil-A is back on the menu, boys! :rejoice
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 19, 2020, 08:15:02 PM
Post by: EchoRin on June 19, 2020, 09:05:33 PM
1) He has a degree in philosophy from Harvard! wtf
This reminds me.
Ben Shapiro skipped 3rd and 9th grade. Finished high school at age 16. Finished his bachelor degree at age 20 and then 3 years later graduated from Harvard Law school (I'm assuming for his master degree?). I mean he should be a pretty damn smart person. Hell, maybe he is. Yet at the same time he is dumb as all hell so at this point, I don't know :yeshrug
Eh, my one "friend" graduated from UofM and he's a proud asian Trump voter and misogynist so I guess at this point a college degree means jack shit to when it comes to how decent of a human being you are. Though I will say that if you did graduate from such extraordinary colleges you sure as hell should know better. So shame on you dipshits.
And didn't George Bush also go to Harvard too?
You know what. Fuck it
Post by: VomKriege on June 20, 2020, 01:47:41 AM
I swear there's a Taibbi piece from way back where he's railing against the PC police but I'm too fuzzy on the details and my google fu's failing me. That or I'm mixing it up with something or someone else.
Par for the course in racial supremacist states : The PC Master Race created the PC Police.
Post by: Rufus on June 20, 2020, 07:09:22 AM
:leonconvinced esch keeps posting yglesias specifically to raise my blood pressure
Tbh I enjoyed that one for several reasons:
1) He has a degree in philosophy from Harvard! wtf
:betty
Post by: toku on June 20, 2020, 02:19:47 PM
Post by: VomKriege on June 20, 2020, 02:53:56 PM
https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1067235520072335361
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1002175004195336192
#Sorosbots
Post by: VomKriege on June 20, 2020, 02:56:55 PM
LOST REVENUE :rethread
Post by: El Babua on June 20, 2020, 02:58:11 PM
Post by: VomKriege on June 20, 2020, 03:02:03 PM
https://twitter.com/kimbrrlyclaire/status/1274354101304864768
:neogaf
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 20, 2020, 03:13:41 PM
Post by: Oblivion on June 20, 2020, 04:32:27 PM
https://twitter.com/NiceMangos/status/1274354120804179969
Post by: Mandark on June 20, 2020, 04:35:17 PM
:doge
Post by: team filler on June 20, 2020, 04:35:22 PM
Post by: Mandark on June 20, 2020, 04:38:37 PM
Post by: Oblivion on June 20, 2020, 04:51:45 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 20, 2020, 07:41:42 PM
"You would have thought that all the people who were lynched were black! ...75% were black."
:doge
The remaining 25% were white people trying to help black people vote.
Post by: team filler on June 20, 2020, 07:43:41 PM
https://twitter.com/DabSquad_Slank/status/1274479162871427073
:whew
Post by: Crash Dummy on June 21, 2020, 04:08:15 AM
Post by: shosta on June 21, 2020, 04:12:13 AM
Post by: shosta on June 21, 2020, 04:13:33 AM
Post by: benjipwns on June 21, 2020, 04:18:19 AM
why are some people panicking that the nyt is going to write about it?If I remove the specific context and you reimagine it as a question regarding something you know about does that help?
Post by: Transhuman on June 21, 2020, 04:32:12 AM
Post by: team filler on June 21, 2020, 04:32:56 AM
Post by: Mandark on June 21, 2020, 04:43:06 AM
what is slate star codex and why are some people panicking that the nyt is going to write about it?
It's a "rationalist" blog. Loosely associated with LessWrong.
Presumably some of those dudes are getting anxious that the NYT is going to accurately quote them on race & IQ, or on the pagan AI God they invented and the public's brains just aren't big enough to understand.
Post by: Crash Dummy on June 21, 2020, 06:27:17 AM
ah got it, thanks. from just the name i thought it was for warhammer 40k fanfic or some shitwhat is slate star codex and why are some people panicking that the nyt is going to write about it?
It's a "rationalist" blog. Loosely associated with LessWrong.
Presumably some of those dudes are getting anxious that the NYT is going to accurately quote them on race & IQ, or on the pagan AI God they invented and the public's brains just aren't big enough to understand.
:existentialwhy are some people panicking that the nyt is going to write about it?If I remove the specific context and you reimagine it as a question regarding something you know about does that help?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 21, 2020, 10:11:18 AM
Post by: BIONIC on June 21, 2020, 10:13:20 AM
Post by: Tripon on June 21, 2020, 12:16:22 PM
(https://preview.redd.it/iqqq0pnza7651.jpg?width=295&auto=webp&s=5f9f77cadccec73ecd4459e408574b4edfd55977)
Deanna Lorriane might be one of the dumbest Republican grifters in a while.
Post by: Nintex on June 21, 2020, 01:28:55 PM
John Bolton Tweeting a John Bolton quote from a John Bolton book to announce an interview with John Bolton.
Post by: Mandark on June 21, 2020, 08:49:58 PM
That thing you like? It's
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 21, 2020, 10:04:23 PM
Post by: Mandark on June 21, 2020, 10:37:51 PM
Post by: benjipwns on June 22, 2020, 12:53:19 AM
https://twitter.com/CatoInstitute/status/1274560682063790080Those are two separate "moments" a hundred years apart. :rage
Post by: OnlyRegret on June 22, 2020, 01:08:51 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbDJAOqWkAA8M-3?format=jpg&name=medium)
Post by: curly on June 22, 2020, 02:10:25 AM
Post by: Tripon on June 22, 2020, 01:17:26 PM
Post by: BisMarckie on June 22, 2020, 01:34:30 PM
It wasn't mass market appeal that ruined vidya games, it was the left all along :existential
Post by: Oblivion on June 22, 2020, 03:34:56 PM
lmao
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbDJAOqWkAA8M-3?format=jpg&name=medium)
isn't she the one who wrote the 1612 Project essay?
Post by: Nintex on June 22, 2020, 04:02:33 PM
https://twitter.com/ClipsDave/status/1268281521732939776I knew Rubin was a gamer, all winners are gamers 8)
Post by: VomKriege on June 22, 2020, 05:08:36 PM
:foodcourt
Post by: Nintex on June 22, 2020, 05:50:54 PM
Post by: Tripon on June 22, 2020, 06:51:01 PM
Post by: BisMarckie on June 22, 2020, 06:59:00 PM
BAN CHICOM JESUS AND KILL HIM (AGAIN) !
Post by: OnlyRegret on June 22, 2020, 08:13:48 PM
https://twitter.com/liz_franczak/status/1275098743688163328
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 22, 2020, 08:36:46 PM
Post by: shosta on June 22, 2020, 09:10:02 PM
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 22, 2020, 11:14:28 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/BrLHH9D/9-D874497-7-FBD-4239-A7-B9-7-E7851-A0158-B.png) (https://ibb.co/b21jjkh)
https://mobile.twitter.com/votejessi2020?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Post by: Tripon on June 23, 2020, 09:35:05 AM
Post by: Nintex on June 23, 2020, 09:45:33 AM
"We never thought it was weird for 13 year old girls to hang out with men aged 50 and up"
"There is nothing illegal here our wives were there and I never dropped my underpants" :derp
Post by: Tripon on June 23, 2020, 12:07:35 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on June 23, 2020, 12:26:56 PM
https://twitter.com/richrmurphy/status/1275197124011933698
Post by: Nintex on June 23, 2020, 01:19:31 PM
His daughter too?Have you seen the pictures of his interior
I think his point is that (obviously) Epstein didn't present himself as some pedo to all the billionaries he met and invited people to his island for vacationing without kid fucking.
"Hey there Jeff, why is your wall plastered with pictures of random 5 year olds in between plastic tits and a painting of Bill Clinton in drag you freak"
"Well I..."
"Just kidding bro I'm bringing the kids next time!"
Post by: BIONIC on June 23, 2020, 02:54:48 PM
Follow-up on that man
https://twitter.com/richrmurphy/status/1275197124011933698
More like Suckdeep :rodney
Post by: Oblivion on June 23, 2020, 03:55:18 PM
am i right? :smug
Post by: Oblivion on June 23, 2020, 08:03:16 PM
https://twitter.com/ExtraHighMarx/status/1275492147106635776
Post by: Oblivion on June 23, 2020, 10:57:34 PM
but alas, turns out it's been extended by a week for some mysterious reason :dunno
Post by: Mandark on June 23, 2020, 10:59:00 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 23, 2020, 11:06:53 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 24, 2020, 02:09:40 AM
Post by: Oblivion on June 24, 2020, 02:30:36 AM
Post by: benjipwns on June 24, 2020, 02:57:42 AM
Post by: BIONIC on June 24, 2020, 04:32:45 AM
I think I'll trust SERBIAN DOCTORS over a bunch of FORUM NERDS.
But who do you trust more between SERBIAN NERDS and FORUM DOCTORS? :thinking
Post by: Mandark on June 24, 2020, 12:16:28 PM
Post by: Oblivion on June 24, 2020, 03:16:14 PM
he gets more and more pathetic every day :neogaf
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 24, 2020, 07:33:14 PM
Post by: VomKriege on June 25, 2020, 12:21:49 AM
https://twitter.com/ClipsDave/status/1275086938001641472
he gets more and more pathetic every day :neogaf
Simp Dad.
Post by: Nintex on June 25, 2020, 02:41:23 PM
8)
Post by: Mandark on June 25, 2020, 04:40:27 PM
shosta should read it for us
Post by: benjipwns on June 25, 2020, 04:46:21 PM
greenwald published his contribution to the right-populist discourseIt's not an article, it's nearly two hours with Nathan Robinson and Krystal Ball:
shosta should read it for us
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSb5_gr9E4o
Post by: Mandark on June 25, 2020, 04:47:28 PM
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on June 25, 2020, 05:15:24 PM
https://twitter.com/tereseaimee/status/1275381209523052544
https://twitter.com/ExtraHighMarx/status/1275492147106635776
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1918/aug/20.htm
Quote from: Vladimir Ilyich Lenin
The American people have a revolutionary tradition which has been adopted by the best representatives of the American proletariat, who have repeatedly expressed their complete solidarity with us Bolsheviks. That tradition is the war of liberation against the British in the eighteenth century and the Civil War in the nineteenth century. In some respects, if we only take into consideration the “destruction” of some branches of industry and of the national economy, America in 1870 was behind 1860. But what a pedant, what an idiot would anyone be to deny on these grounds the immense, world-historic, progressive and revolutionary significance of the American Civil War of 1863-65!
Post by: curly on June 25, 2020, 06:30:47 PM
Jakefromstatefarm ANNIHILATED
Post by: team filler on June 25, 2020, 08:28:51 PM
https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1276221637000663041 (https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1276221637000663041)https://twitter.com/bergleeuw62/status/1276253858487062531
8)
:lawd
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 25, 2020, 08:32:18 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 25, 2020, 08:38:10 PM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 25, 2020, 09:22:06 PM
https://twitter.com/jacobinmag/status/1275885032461275136been a while since i’ve arthur fisted this hard at a video before
Post by: Oblivion on June 26, 2020, 01:03:10 AM
greenwald published his contribution to the right-populist discourse
shosta should read it for us
i listened to it, but only the portion with nathan. it was less entertaining than i hoped. most of the discussion was really just about trying to define what a 'rightwing populist' actually was. greenwald said tucker carlson, josh hawley and trump circa 2016 would count. there was also one moment where he said the right is populist because they're the only ones that want to take on the telecoms :neogaf a lot of it seemed like both talking past each other, honestly.
donut recommend :doge
Post by: shosta on June 26, 2020, 01:35:27 AM
shosta should [watch] it for usI'll do it tomorrow... but I want you to increase my allowance
Post by: VomKriege on June 26, 2020, 02:41:08 AM
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1275878776555966465
Post by: VomKriege on June 26, 2020, 02:45:06 AM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1276375906974564353
Though promoting the pill over PP and not the full array of options doesn't bode too well (didn't watch the video, obviously :doge ).
Post by: team filler on June 26, 2020, 05:29:07 AM
https://twitter.com/marrrouk/status/1276355851977019392
https://twitter.com/afinley01/status/1276367944600047617
:pacspit
Post by: BisMarckie on June 26, 2020, 09:52:17 AM
Quote
p*litical sc*entists
benjipwns annihilated
Post by: shosta on June 26, 2020, 01:07:58 PM
Quote
What is right wing populism? For me, the starting point has to be the current state of left wing populism.
:shaq2
Quote
In the numerous instances where left wing populists can't make meaningful coalitions with democrat corporatists... Prompts the question... who are the left wing going to form coalitions with?
:dead alright boys I'm going to listen to the whole thing and get back to you all
Post by: BisMarckie on June 26, 2020, 01:09:43 PM
I am very smart. :curious
Post by: shosta on June 26, 2020, 02:15:09 PM
- Glenn's interest here is clearly in defending his multiple appearances on Tucker Carlson. Glenn does make a good point here that one of Tucker's fundamental impulses, that government shouldn't bend over for the interests of the corporate class, makes him a valuable ally on very specific issues like the Amazon tax credit. I think tucker makes an interesting case study here because he's actually ideologically consistent whereas Trump is not and lets himself get co-opted by whoever is the most obsequious.
I think Glenn's central point here is "why are Josh Hawley and Tucker Carlson off-limits?" He's right that political allies are not the same thing as friends and that politics is about opening up channels for communication. But his major example for how people on the right and left came together and engaged in dialogue is... the gay rights movement? What?
Nathan Robinson's interview is at 30:00. I can't stand his voice but I did it for you all. It's easy to anticipate his main question: what politics on the right is genuinely, authentically working class? It's fraudulent. And he doesn't mean "don't ever talk to the right", he means "don't frame then as populists" because all you're doing is enabling then to continue to hoodwink working class people. That's probably the most important thing: since right wing populism is fundamentally an act of deception, helping them in that rhetorical space is absolutely immoral. Glenn continues to misinterpret Nathan as saying "don't be friends with these people".
Glenn: "If I asked you who are the left wing populists, and you said AOC and Bernie Sanders, I'd say wait, they're trying to elect the biggest centrist ever, Joe Biden!" :dead this man is so confused :dead
"I think it's kind of distracting to talk about Donald Trump because it's unfair to that movement to make Trump the prism through which we understand them because he is a con man. But there are people who have more genuine convictions and more fixed ideologies than Donald Trump"
Nathan: WHO? WHO???? [:rofl :rofl]
Glenn: Josh Hawley! Tucker Carlson!
Glenn thinks people are chasing ideas and Nathan thinks people are chasing their interests by any means possible. Basically Nathan is a materialist and Glenn is an idealist, that'll be $50 please
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Glenn: libertarianism is populist because it's against the government rigging things for corporations :dead
[close]
[intermission]
Post by: Nintex on June 26, 2020, 02:21:36 PM
Post by: shosta on June 26, 2020, 02:35:43 PM
Post by: Mandark on June 26, 2020, 02:54:23 PM
- Glenn says that right wing populists and left wing populists intersect on extremely important issues like when Bernie Sanders teamed up with a tea party republican to limit bombing in Yemen. But Trump VETOED THAT. So aligning with ur-right-wing-populists seems like a pretty bad strategy.
It's also a weird example because the sponsors were Bernie + Mike Lee + 17 other Democrats. Then it passed both houses when the Dems all voted for it and peeled off a few Republicans.
Seems like pretty orthodox party politics!
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 26, 2020, 03:12:10 PM
Glenn thinks people are chasing ideas and Nathan thinks people are chasing their interests by any means possible. Basically Nathan is a materialist and Glenn is an idealistjust saving this for my next carepost. carry on!
Post by: VomKriege on June 26, 2020, 03:23:52 PM
I think the most telling part is when Nathan says, look, you can and should "work with" Libertarians or even Le Pen nazis on very specific limited aims if there really is agreement but you should be excruciatingly careful about your concessions. Glenn immediately says "yeah, don't concede anything important!" And therein lies the crux: when Glenn says "work with", he doesn't think you'll have to make concessions, you can just pass these limited aims where everyone agrees. But all coalition building involves concession making! And that's why the right wing "populists" historically align with the capitalists... their identarian aims are more important to them than their economic ones (if they exist at all).
Yeah. It didn't really work in Italy, as far as I know. In France Le Pen has so few MPs they're not even a factor at the national level. Maybe in some city councils. Those hyper focused, circumstantial alliances to pass one initiative are more hypothetical than real, I feel. In most western countries, it's about building a coalition government and mandate-long stable majorities anyway and that involves some more intricate deals and concessions.
Israel and Belgium would perhaps be relevant here ? For all the horseshoe talk, examples of actual brown-red alliances in modern politics are pretty rare.
Post by: Flannel Boy on June 26, 2020, 03:28:44 PM
:brain
Post by: Oblivion on June 26, 2020, 04:55:04 PM
https://twitter.com/ClipsDave/status/1276563243582906368
the best that his pal, eric weinstein said about his new book was that he didn't read it, but thinks it's probably good
Post by: EchoRin on June 26, 2020, 05:35:20 PM
Post by: VomKriege on June 26, 2020, 05:44:38 PM
trouble in IDW paradise?
https://twitter.com/ClipsDave/status/1276563243582906368
the best that his pal, eric weinstein said about his new book was that he didn't read it, but thinks it's probably good
I'm not finding the source but Michael Brooks joked that Glenn Beck said to Dave Rubin's face that he doesn't watch his show or read his latest book either. :lol
But Rubin is apparently pretty content being made into a giant wank dad by all his mentors, his whole career is holding more and more Ls pretending he's not surrounded and pandering to a bunch of homophobes.
Post by: VomKriege on June 26, 2020, 06:26:42 PM
But it's also ANTIFA FIFTH COLUMN CULTURAL REVOLUTION BATTLE FOR THE SOUL OF MERICA.
:whatsthedeal
Post by: Nintex on June 26, 2020, 06:37:09 PM
Post by: team filler on June 26, 2020, 07:02:57 PM
trouble in IDW paradise?https://twitter.com/ololo666/status/1276579293162856449
https://twitter.com/ClipsDave/status/1276563243582906368
the best that his pal, eric weinstein said about his new book was that he didn't read it, but thinks it's probably good
Post by: Oblivion on June 26, 2020, 08:29:55 PM
It seems like it'd be very tiring to have to talk about that boring shit all the time
spoken like someone who's too uncultured to appreciate Enlightenment values :snob
Post by: curly on June 26, 2020, 08:44:48 PM
I think the most telling part is when Nathan says, look, you can and should "work with" Libertarians or even Le Pen nazis on very specific limited aims if there really is agreement but you should be excruciatingly careful about your concessions. Glenn immediately says "yeah, don't concede anything important!" And therein lies the crux: when Glenn says "work with", he doesn't think you'll have to make concessions, you can just pass these limited aims where everyone agrees. But all coalition building involves concession making! And that's why the right wing "populists" historically align with the capitalists... their identarian aims are more important to them than their economic ones (if they exist at all).
Every time Glenn talks about this his example is always something like Bernie cosponsoring a bill with some Republican which is fine obviously but it's a pretty far cry from a real left/right coalition (which can't even happen in the American party system) or some sustained coordinated effort by left- and right-wing groups. I didn't listen to this because I can't stand listening to Nathan Robinson for a sustained period (thank you for your service Stost) so I don't know if this still holds true but for Glenn it mostly seems like a way to own the libs and justify his own appearances on Tucker and not something he's really put much thought into fleshing out. Although writing this I guess he probably sees himself appearing on Tucker as left/right coalition building.
Post by: shosta on June 26, 2020, 08:48:03 PM
he is a forums poster at heart
Post by: Oblivion on June 26, 2020, 09:03:58 PM
Post by: curly on June 26, 2020, 09:04:58 PM
Post by: shosta on June 26, 2020, 09:10:52 PM
what problems do people have with nathan aside from his fashion sense and maybe his voice?do I need other reasons
Post by: team filler on June 26, 2020, 09:21:32 PM
Post by: curly on June 26, 2020, 09:23:27 PM
Post by: Oblivion on June 26, 2020, 09:49:33 PM
this must be how hegel felt :doge
Post by: Oblivion on June 26, 2020, 09:58:22 PM
I'm now going to give shasta a like out of spite against your bitchassness
so this must be how nelson mandela felt :doge
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 26, 2020, 10:11:30 PM
what problems do people have with nathan aside from his fashion sense and maybe his voice?thats basically it. he’s just a massive dork.
Post by: curly on June 26, 2020, 10:20:22 PM
also i like how everyone ignored the fact that i listened to the nathan/greenwald before shosta yet received no appreciation
this must be how hegel felt :doge
Yes but shosta wrote a book report so we didn't have to listen to it so he gets the gold star
Post by: team filler on June 26, 2020, 10:32:41 PM
Post by: Oblivion on June 26, 2020, 10:38:45 PM
when you think a post is going to get no likes but filler comes through :whew
thank GOD :rejoice
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 26, 2020, 10:42:00 PM
How much lead is in Seattle water? Could it be considered a deadly weapon?
Post by: team filler on June 26, 2020, 10:59:22 PM
Post by: Nintex on June 27, 2020, 08:10:09 PM
Post by: Tripon on June 27, 2020, 08:23:14 PM
Post by: naff on June 28, 2020, 07:17:31 PM
Post by: naff on June 28, 2020, 07:25:49 PM
like pointing out and normalising that many countries have marginalised groups with even less rights, being more persecuted than their western counterparts is smart or productive.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 28, 2020, 07:32:36 PM
Post by: Nintex on June 28, 2020, 07:32:40 PM
Post by: Mandark on June 28, 2020, 07:42:05 PM
lol, wokeism. it's just a continuation of the same thing (pc culture) conservatives and culture critics (zizek et al) have been complaining about for decades.
There was a bunch of cultural angst about campus PC culture and about sexual harassment allegations "going too far" in the 90's. It's crazy how much of the IDW/PragerU just recycled that same stuff. The 90's even had people trying to recapture masculinity through Jungian mythopoetic analysis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_John:_A_Book_About_Men).
Nothing new under the Sun.
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 28, 2020, 08:11:34 PM
the whinging about ‘wokeism’ is the latest iteration of a charge of suspicion that what really animates leftward moralization is self-regard, that altruism is actually just a desire to feel self-important. ‘virtue signaling’ occupies the same rhetorical space. this is what pretty much every episode of south park trades in: a priori belief in everyone else being as selfish as you are, and everyone's altruism getting revealed as narcissism. and repose in being clear-headed and mature enough to recognize all this
Post by: Oblivion on June 28, 2020, 08:37:32 PM
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CrO2P0AcZgk/hqdefault.jpg)
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 28, 2020, 08:41:57 PM
Post by: Oblivion on June 28, 2020, 09:03:58 PM
this episode was aired all the way back in 2005. the trope of a girl fighting sexism by doing something only boys could do wasn't new even then, and i'd been familiar with it on almost every cartoon or live action kids show growing up. by that point, such a thing was so uncontroversial that it was unremarkable. i've always been pretty socially liberal, but this was at a time before i ever paid attention to politics. i just thought it was a nice, positive, uplifting message for the girls watching the show and didn't think much of it at the time or since. and i'm sure lots of people agreed since i never encountered any backlash toward it.
but re-watching it now, i can only imagine the absolute shitstorm that would arise from the anti-PC/gamergate/IDW/chud crowd if it was aired today. it sucks to realize that as time went on, we've actually somehow regressed.
Post by: curly on June 28, 2020, 09:12:46 PM
Glenn must be listening to Red Scare or something these days
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1277398360970969088
Having avoided all but a couple screengrabs of White Fragility I am only now discovering it's written by a white person and am undergoing a minor :ohhh
Post by: Mandark on June 28, 2020, 11:58:27 PM
Glenn must be listening to Red Scare or something these days
Given how he wrote about immigration on his old blog and the way the Intercept became a hub of left-adjacent sjw-skepticism (Fang, Jilani, Gray), not the most surprising trajectory.
Also sure there's a ton of leftover bitterness from the 2016 primaries (or more specifically the batshit Twitter culture that developed around it).
Post by: Oblivion on June 29, 2020, 12:15:12 AM
it's only a matter of time before he starts retweeting that aimee terese chick as well
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2020, 12:43:09 AM
i've recently been re-watching avatar: the last airbender, and there's this episode where katara wants to learn water bending from a master, but the master refuses to teach her because his customs don't allow women to be water bending warriors. eventually he relents, and katara not only proves to be a capable water bender, but has advanced further and faster than any of his male students.
this episode was aired all the way back in 2005. the trope of a girl fighting sexism by doing something only boys could do wasn't new even then, and i'd been familiar with it on almost every cartoon or live action kids show growing up. by that point, such a thing was so uncontroversial that it was unremarkable. i've always been pretty socially liberal, but this was at a time before i ever paid attention to politics. i just thought it was a nice, positive, uplifting message for the girls watching the show and didn't think much of it at the time or since. and i'm sure lots of people agreed since i never encountered any backlash toward it.
but re-watching it now, i can only imagine the absolute shitstorm that would arise from the anti-PC/gamergate/IDW/chud crowd if it was aired today. it sucks to realize that as time went on, we've actually somehow regressed.
Nerds universally agreed that X-Men was a big metaphor for the civil rights struggle (including the pretty inaccurate Dr. X/MLK vs. Magneto/Malcolm X bit) and would frequently hold that up as an argument for the genre being taken seriously!
Now I'm imagining dorks getting apoplectic at Eowyn saying "I am no man."
Post by: Oblivion on June 29, 2020, 01:29:38 AM
i've recently been re-watching avatar: the last airbender, and there's this episode where katara wants to learn water bending from a master, but the master refuses to teach her because his customs don't allow women to be water bending warriors. eventually he relents, and katara not only proves to be a capable water bender, but has advanced further and faster than any of his male students.
this episode was aired all the way back in 2005. the trope of a girl fighting sexism by doing something only boys could do wasn't new even then, and i'd been familiar with it on almost every cartoon or live action kids show growing up. by that point, such a thing was so uncontroversial that it was unremarkable. i've always been pretty socially liberal, but this was at a time before i ever paid attention to politics. i just thought it was a nice, positive, uplifting message for the girls watching the show and didn't think much of it at the time or since. and i'm sure lots of people agreed since i never encountered any backlash toward it.
but re-watching it now, i can only imagine the absolute shitstorm that would arise from the anti-PC/gamergate/IDW/chud crowd if it was aired today. it sucks to realize that as time went on, we've actually somehow regressed.
Nerds universally agreed that X-Men was a big metaphor for the civil rights struggle (including the pretty inaccurate Dr. X/MLK vs. Magneto/Malcolm X bit) and would frequently hold that up as an argument for the genre being taken seriously!
Now I'm imagining dorks getting apoplectic at Eowyn saying "I am no man."
the x-men thing is particularly great because it's always funny to see them struggle explaining why metaphors involving civil rights was okay when they did back in the 60s, but not okay and completely different when comics try the same thing in the present :brain
Post by: VomKriege on June 29, 2020, 02:52:57 AM
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but re-watching it now, i can only imagine the absolute shitstorm that would arise from the anti-PC/gamergate/IDW/chud crowd if it was aired today. it sucks to realize that as time went on, we've actually somehow regressed.
I was listening to RLM yesterday and there's a point they made a couple of times that some films that could potentially trigger those sort of conversations did not. I don't want to brush it all off as a "extremely online" phenomenon but the CULTURE WAR is being fought on what is a pretty narrow front and I am hopeful that we're actually making progress overall even if the kneejerks have gotten a lot more violent. Counterpoint is Trump or the recent developments in some Central European countries where it translates into real despicable policies, sadly, so it's not all just rearguard action we could just ignore. But there's definitely a fixation on what is both perceived as popular AND where demographics are susceptible to those arguments or to the same style of rhetorical vindictiveness. That's why console warriors can shift to culture warriors easily, perhaps, because no matter the set of arguments it's really the interaction mode &style of arguing they crave.
all the cultural marxism conspiracy tropes originated in 90s american paleoconservatism. most of the standard lines of attack got hashed out during the first few years of the culture wars and everything’s been iterations on those ever since.
the whinging about ‘wokeism’ is the latest iteration of a charge of suspicion that what really animates leftward moralization is self-regard, that altruism is actually just a desire to feel self-important. ‘virtue signaling’ occupies the same rhetorical space. this is what pretty much every episode of south park trades in: a priori belief in everyone else being as selfish as you are, and everyone's altruism getting revealed as narcissism. and repose in being clear-headed and mature enough to recognize all this
I like this and it is concise. But I'd say, as I recognize myself in some of it ("Social Justice Skeptic" I am though as a couple of others here) that it's a common set of views if you're an individualist and a materialist, I'd reckon. Everything is a spectrum and a question of degrees, probably... I think the mistake is thinking maturity and clear headedness ends there when it's really just the starting point.
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 29, 2020, 04:34:50 AM
I like this and it is concise. But I'd say, as I recognize myself in some of it ("Social Justice Skeptic" I am though as a couple of others here) that it's a common set of views if you're an individualist and a materialist, I'd reckon. Everything is a spectrum and a question of degrees, probably... I think the mistake is thinking maturity and clear headedness ends there when it's really just the starting point.but the repose just is the point for the south park centrist. they arent interested in weighing evidence or argument, they’re trying to find a way out of (really: above) partisan cut and thrust. they want smug withdrawal above the mess of political contestation, and they purchase that by either appealing to some nebulous common sense and/or deflating the bite of the moralizer by exposing the psychological makeup of the moralizer as merely self-regarding.
but this dollar store cynicism’s ‘maturity’ is just as underthought and naive as the straw positions it’s trying to pillory. we dont have any more reason to think, or at least we arent ever given any by the centrist/reactionary, that people are reducibly selfish than that altruism is possible*. it ends up being a (excuse the expression) moral-stance argument. an argument whose persuasive force lies not in its demonstration -viz. its validity or its correspondence with reality- but in the kind of moral stance it necessarily implies for its adherent. the south park centrist might just be attracted to the idea of them living in a world that’s disinterested or unforgiving (because then they’d get to self-aggrandize wrt their own station/accomplishments and they’d get to posture as the adults in the room towards the people who don’t think the world’s disinterested or unforgiving), and that’s where the reductive cynicism argument finds traction.
*in practice, the reactionary is never actually consistent in applying this principle; for them, there’s always a select group of people who manage to be genuinely altruistic, and they just so happen to be the people the reactionary identifies with
re: social justice skepticism, whomst amongst us cant admit that the :social crowd could or has been guilty of excesses? the line to hold here would be to not see these excesses, whatever their frequency or importance, as giving the lie to the claims of injustice or to the capacity to rectify those injustices. because that’s what the south park centrist and reactionary do, and that’s what makes them clowns.
Post by: benjipwns on June 29, 2020, 01:20:48 PM
:teehee
Post by: Nintex on June 29, 2020, 02:14:01 PM
king
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 29, 2020, 02:32:40 PM
[post]i need to stop posting at 1 in the morning :snoop
Post by: Nintex on June 29, 2020, 02:33:22 PM
Looking at those likes, I would say you should post more at 1 in the morning.[post]i need to stop posting at 1 in the morning :snoop
Post by: Tripon on June 29, 2020, 02:47:18 PM
I guess Dave isn't a classical liberal anymore.
Post by: benjipwns on June 29, 2020, 03:22:31 PM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1277659351570882560
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 29, 2020, 03:55:26 PM
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Please review.
10/10
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 29, 2020, 03:59:01 PM
Post by: Oblivion on June 29, 2020, 04:19:44 PM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 29, 2020, 04:21:56 PM
Post by: EightBitNate on June 29, 2020, 04:23:00 PM
https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1277653212053585923
“He didn’t watch the video for long enough”
Bruh it’s literally the first 9 seconds of the video
Post by: shosta on June 29, 2020, 04:29:29 PM
Reddit banned a whole bunch of things today, including TD, which was mostly dead.I lost chapo and cumtown on the same day... now all I've got is r/aww, forbiddensnacks, and cursedimages
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 29, 2020, 04:32:51 PM
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2020, 04:46:54 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DwkT2IfVsAAd2g3.jpg)
[close]
Post by: benjipwns on June 29, 2020, 04:58:57 PM
Post by: VomKriege on June 29, 2020, 05:21:00 PM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1277665653000986625
:neogaf
TEARS FOR THE WHINE GOD
Post by: VomKriege on June 29, 2020, 05:32:41 PM
What do these nerds even get out of trying to defend Trump on shit like this? Dude has been quoting George Wallace and Walter Headley, talking up heritage, and being more concerned with Confederate monuments than police assaulting and killing people all over the country for the past month.
I think they're scared shitless of their own customer base.
Edit : Also very charitable to think Shapiro or his kind of wank dad have real moral issues with everything you mention.
Post by: Nintex on June 29, 2020, 06:05:52 PM
Post by: VomKriege on June 29, 2020, 06:21:53 PM
Are hardcore Trumpers really the Ben Shapiro audience
I don't know about "hardcore" but at this point it's clear Trumpism has seeped into large parts or most of the base. There's nothing to gain criticizing Trump or your side in such a rigid and antagonist bi-partisan system and it's not like they really disagree with him, I think. Shapiro and most wank dads made their bread and butter of being more radical and Trump is all the shit they wanted embodied.
I'm sure they only have contempt for him and they hate that it turned out they're the bottoms in that relationship but they're not going to score well with the audience by bringing up their supposed intellectual superiority.
Post by: Oblivion on June 29, 2020, 07:05:25 PM
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2020, 07:10:13 PM
Defending a white person from accusations of racism (unless it's a liberal who you're hoisting by their own petard) is sine qua non for being a pundit in good standing with rightwing American audiences.
Post by: BisMarckie on June 29, 2020, 07:19:34 PM
all on the same day filler got banned on the bore :stahp
What the hell happened?
#justiceforfiller :maf
Post by: benjipwns on June 29, 2020, 07:51:34 PM
Post by: VomKriege on June 29, 2020, 08:03:17 PM
:rollsafe
Shadowban is on a slider, apparently ?
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1277677434008211457
Post by: Tripon on June 29, 2020, 08:05:35 PM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1277729205040578561https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1277747226559873025
:rollsafe
Shadowban is on a slider, apparently ?
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1277677434008211457
Post by: team filler on June 29, 2020, 08:18:43 PM
I demand a statement, the post has been up for three hours now and I'm starting to get comfortable assigning blame.I am more shadow-banned today than I ever have been. Typically I get over 50,000 likes per post. Today I am averaging 12,000.
With almost 2000 members, that should be statistically impossible.
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 29, 2020, 09:30:27 PM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1277665653000986625
https://twitter.com/dril/status/107911000199671808
Post by: Oblivion on June 29, 2020, 10:02:18 PM
how exactly the was the anti-PC movement in the 90s?i didn't pay much attention to it back in the day since i was young and not into politics, but all i can think of that immediately pops up is stuff like married with children, howard stern and uh...i guess bill maher's Politically Incorrect show. was it as bad as it is now?
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2020, 10:29:29 PM
When I mentioned the 90's anti-PC trend I mean more in a sort of PragerU way, ie backlash against feminist or multicultural discourse that had "gone too far," showed that young people were oversensitive, infringed on "free speech" etc. I think the 90's is when political correctness really gained traction as a term, and was typically used in a derogatory way. So you got Maher's "Politically Incorrect," the movie PCU, Politically Correct Bedtime Stories (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politically_Correct_Bedtime_Stories), etc. The New Republic ran a whole issue on campus culture in the early 90's. I don't know if they used the term PC in the headline but it was about a lot of the same stuff Charlie Kirk's yelling about currently.
There was also a real sentiment that accusations of sexual harassment had gotten out of hand, after only a very few big public cases (Clarence Thomas and Bob Packwood off the top of my head). In fiction there were several examples where fake harassment charges are central to the plot: Disclosure by Michael Chrichton, Oleanna by David Mamet, The Human Stain by Philip Roth. Throw in Kevin Spacey at the start of American Beauty (in that case it's his way of striking back at his capitalist masters) and the Homer Badman episode too.
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2020, 10:33:24 PM
Look at this shit!
neoliberalism.jpg
Post by: Oblivion on June 29, 2020, 10:41:12 PM
Post by: Tripon on June 29, 2020, 10:42:12 PM
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2020, 11:03:50 PM
Look at the listed authors, though. They run a cover with "RACE ON CAMPUS" and a drawing of a black vs. white arm wrestling contest, and is even one of the writers they listed black? Imagine pulling that now and the shitstorm they'd deal with.
Bonus: Besides DeSouza, who'd publish "The End of Racism" in 1995, Jim Sleeper would publish "Liberal Racism" in 1997.
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 29, 2020, 11:11:42 PM
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2020, 11:13:57 PM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 29, 2020, 11:15:19 PM
but now that you mention it :larry
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2020, 11:18:02 PM
Post by: VomKriege on June 29, 2020, 11:20:26 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 30, 2020, 09:31:30 AM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on June 30, 2020, 02:01:36 PM
:brain
Post by: toku on June 30, 2020, 02:40:02 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 30, 2020, 03:28:25 PM
https://twitter.com/theserfstv/status/1278021378315153408
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzZBMEIKfOU
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 30, 2020, 03:32:39 PM
Post by: Nintex on June 30, 2020, 04:29:10 PM
:lol
Post by: Oblivion on June 30, 2020, 06:37:11 PM
Post by: VomKriege on June 30, 2020, 09:44:06 PM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1277997089046355968
It's Alex Jones current schtick too ("We can't breathe" is his latest stunt) up to saying masks actually are more dangerous and that some guy measured dangerous level of CO2 within a coupl of minutes.
Nevermind that health professionals and a variety of other professions use masks for longer periods of times even before the pandemic and never passed out
Post by: Oblivion on July 01, 2020, 12:49:17 AM
guys. LOBSTER DADDY IS BACK :o :o :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLWgVpmo1e0
Post by: Oblivion on July 01, 2020, 02:29:09 AM
"JP had been taking benzodiazepines since late 2016, as a treatment for sleeplessness following what he describes as a bad reaction to something he ate [ed: this seems to be the apple cider incident described on Joe Rogan's podcast], per medical guidelines at 0.25mg 2xday [ed: presumably clonazepam, this is a standard dose]. This treatment seemed to work at the time, so he continued with it.
At some unspecified time, he started noticing symptoms of weakness, detachment, and anhedonia. At some unspecified later time, he inferred that these were side-effects of the benzos.
At some point around April-May 2019, he began experiencing increased anxiety, which he associates with dealing with his wife's illness. As a result, he requests for an increase in his benzo dose. [ed: apparently up at some point to 4mg/day; this is a high dose]
He reports feeling increased anxiety from this point, for which reason he stops taking the benzos and starts taking ketamine [ed: his daughter later clarifies this was on recommendation of a psychiatrist]. He reports having been off the benzos for about a week and that "this turns out to have been a bad idea" [ed: presumably this did not help the anxiety and he resumed benzo use at that point, but it's not clearly stated].
He tried to taper down the dosage of his benzos [ed: presumably this was after resuming, so that he first stopped cold turkey, then resumed and tried to taper; it's not stated whether a physician is involved in this]. He reports intolerable anxiety and restlessness as resulting from this.
By August 2019 his wife had recovered but he was still wrestling with these issues. Sometime after then he goes to "a clinic on the east coast" for help getting off the benzos. He reports expecting a "multi-day" procedure for getting off the benzos and through withdrawal and being unsatisfied by the clinic's recommendation that they replace clonazepam with another benzo [ed: presumably valium] and use other "sedative-like drugs" to help manage symptoms during the taper [ed: so presumably not benzos; probably trazodone or quetiapine for sleep; that sort of thing]. He reports that since the benzos are causing the symptoms, he's unsatisfied with an approach that still had him on benzos.
In November-December 2019 he's hospitalized in Toronto for related / the same difficulties [ed: the specific event leading to hospitalization is not stated]. [ed: it's not clear whether he had continued the east coast clinic's protocol up to this point or had abandoned it.]
In December 2019 his daughter and her husband remove him from this hospital [ed: he reports not remembering this period, and later reports that this was against physician's orders] and bring him to a clinic near Moscow that sedate him [ed: to unconsciousness] for nine days with propofol. He reports complications of nine days of delirium following waking from this, and pneumonia which he'd had since the Toronto hospitalization.
He reports being extremely angry with his daughter at this point, as he has no recollection of agreeing to this treatment, while she explains that the whole family, including him, had discussed it and agreed to it, but that his memory of this was impaired. She reports the Russian doctor not understanding why they'd brought him there.
At this point he reports no longer being on the benzos, and having relief from the restlessness that was a side-effect of their use, but having general impairment of sensory, motor, and cognitive function. He is transferred to a rehabilitation clinic in Moscow for two weeks to help rehab through these difficulties.
They then move to Florida, and he reports that the anxiety and some of the restlessness recur at this point. He is given some medication here, but it's not stated what or what the circumstances of its prescription were.
In June 2020 he moves to Serbia to enter care in a clinic there [his daughter explains: to treat the "neurological damage done by the benzos"]. They adjust the unspecified medication he was given in Florida. He reports finding relief at this point.
He then discusses questions of responsibility and trust in his work, and remarks that he found it noteworthy how much support he got from people in spite of the stigma associated with drug problems, that everyone has difficulties so one cannot realistically expect to find help from people who don't, that he's always included himself among the population of people he's speaking about who need to work on their own personal responsibility and moral improvement, and that anyone ought to judge for themselves whether to trust his work based on what he's previously said and done.
They then discuss a perceived difference between American and Russian approaches to treating these issues. They report that the American doctors wanted to treat an "underlying disorder" [ed: it's not stated what they thought this to be, JP and MP clarify only that it's something that "doesn't exist... probably doesn't exist"] rather than treating the benzo dependency, whereas the Russian doctors treated the benzo dependency [ed: but on the history they give, the Western doctors did try to treat the benzo dependency, just not in the way JP/MP wanted/expected, so it's unclear what they mean here]."
Post by: VomKriege on July 01, 2020, 04:04:27 AM
Apparently no cases in the jail he'll be at and it's more of one of the nicer prisons (as far as those things go).
Alex also was weirdly insistent to get a statement from Stone that he was not going to suicide in his cell.
Otherwise as you'd expect, a thinly veiled call for help directed at Trump to get a pardon. In the middle of flattering Donald, Alex dropped "And he's handsome too" or something like that.
:supergay
Stone also found Jesus. :mike
Post by: BIONIC on July 01, 2020, 06:47:59 AM
Post by: Oblivion on July 01, 2020, 07:15:37 AM
Man he looks and sounds like shitt :jeanluc
jorp, alex or roger?
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 01, 2020, 09:20:12 AM
Jorp. He definitely looks and sounds like he was put into a coma in Eastern Europe for a few weeks.
He possibly died and was resurrected by the same witch doctors that brought Kim Jong Un back to life
Post by: Nintex on July 01, 2020, 12:26:27 PM
Me:
https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/1278353774671802369 (https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/1278353774671802369)
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on July 01, 2020, 04:04:40 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1278415052748533766
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 01, 2020, 04:13:00 PM
Post by: curly on July 01, 2020, 04:19:08 PM
some heroic individual on reddit summarized the video for those of us who can't stomach listening to jorp for an hour:
"JP had been taking benzodiazepines since late 2016, as a treatment for sleeplessness following what he describes as a bad reaction to something he ate [ed: this seems to be the apple cider incident described on Joe Rogan's podcast], per medical guidelines at 0.25mg 2xday [ed: presumably clonazepam, this is a standard dose]. This treatment seemed to work at the time, so he continued with it.
At some unspecified time, he started noticing symptoms of weakness, detachment, and anhedonia. At some unspecified later time, he inferred that these were side-effects of the benzos.
At some point around April-May 2019, he began experiencing increased anxiety, which he associates with dealing with his wife's illness. As a result, he requests for an increase in his benzo dose. [ed: apparently up at some point to 4mg/day; this is a high dose]
He reports feeling increased anxiety from this point, for which reason he stops taking the benzos and starts taking ketamine [ed: his daughter later clarifies this was on recommendation of a psychiatrist]. He reports having been off the benzos for about a week and that "this turns out to have been a bad idea" [ed: presumably this did not help the anxiety and he resumed benzo use at that point, but it's not clearly stated].
He tried to taper down the dosage of his benzos [ed: presumably this was after resuming, so that he first stopped cold turkey, then resumed and tried to taper; it's not stated whether a physician is involved in this]. He reports intolerable anxiety and restlessness as resulting from this.
By August 2019 his wife had recovered but he was still wrestling with these issues. Sometime after then he goes to "a clinic on the east coast" for help getting off the benzos. He reports expecting a "multi-day" procedure for getting off the benzos and through withdrawal and being unsatisfied by the clinic's recommendation that they replace clonazepam with another benzo [ed: presumably valium] and use other "sedative-like drugs" to help manage symptoms during the taper [ed: so presumably not benzos; probably trazodone or quetiapine for sleep; that sort of thing]. He reports that since the benzos are causing the symptoms, he's unsatisfied with an approach that still had him on benzos.
In November-December 2019 he's hospitalized in Toronto for related / the same difficulties [ed: the specific event leading to hospitalization is not stated]. [ed: it's not clear whether he had continued the east coast clinic's protocol up to this point or had abandoned it.]
In December 2019 his daughter and her husband remove him from this hospital [ed: he reports not remembering this period, and later reports that this was against physician's orders] and bring him to a clinic near Moscow that sedate him [ed: to unconsciousness] for nine days with propofol. He reports complications of nine days of delirium following waking from this, and pneumonia which he'd had since the Toronto hospitalization.
He reports being extremely angry with his daughter at this point, as he has no recollection of agreeing to this treatment, while she explains that the whole family, including him, had discussed it and agreed to it, but that his memory of this was impaired. She reports the Russian doctor not understanding why they'd brought him there.
At this point he reports no longer being on the benzos, and having relief from the restlessness that was a side-effect of their use, but having general impairment of sensory, motor, and cognitive function. He is transferred to a rehabilitation clinic in Moscow for two weeks to help rehab through these difficulties.
They then move to Florida, and he reports that the anxiety and some of the restlessness recur at this point. He is given some medication here, but it's not stated what or what the circumstances of its prescription were.
In June 2020 he moves to Serbia to enter care in a clinic there [his daughter explains: to treat the "neurological damage done by the benzos"]. They adjust the unspecified medication he was given in Florida. He reports finding relief at this point.
He then discusses questions of responsibility and trust in his work, and remarks that he found it noteworthy how much support he got from people in spite of the stigma associated with drug problems, that everyone has difficulties so one cannot realistically expect to find help from people who don't, that he's always included himself among the population of people he's speaking about who need to work on their own personal responsibility and moral improvement, and that anyone ought to judge for themselves whether to trust his work based on what he's previously said and done.
They then discuss a perceived difference between American and Russian approaches to treating these issues. They report that the American doctors wanted to treat an "underlying disorder" [ed: it's not stated what they thought this to be, JP and MP clarify only that it's something that "doesn't exist... probably doesn't exist"] rather than treating the benzo dependency, whereas the Russian doctors treated the benzo dependency [ed: but on the history they give, the Western doctors did try to treat the benzo dependency, just not in the way JP/MP wanted/expected, so it's unclear what they mean here]."
god reading this gave me anxiety. taking 4mg of benzos daily is bad enough but then going cold turkey and fucking around with your dosage :notlikethis
also holy shit it really did all start with the apple cider
Post by: VomKriege on July 01, 2020, 04:39:46 PM
We’re not very smart, are we?
https://mobile.twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1278415052748533766
Wasn't so pleased when #SorosBots were driving his engagement and statistics up.
:mike
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1002175004195336192
Post by: VomKriege on July 01, 2020, 04:44:21 PM
Checkmate Bitchell.
Post by: benjipwns on July 01, 2020, 04:49:42 PM
Post by: Mandark on July 01, 2020, 04:54:51 PM
Post by: shosta on July 01, 2020, 05:03:52 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 01, 2020, 05:07:04 PM
They then move to Florida, and he reports that the anxiety and some of the restlessness recur at this point. He is given some medication here, but it's not stated what or what the circumstances of its prescription were.So he's still trying to treat himself in a way that Western doctors apparently aren't comfortable with and seemingly went to Serbia because they wouldn't boost his dosage in Florida. Maybe because of that history where he self-dosed himself to 4mg a day of clonazepam/klonopin. I dunno, maybe.
In June 2020 he moves to Serbia to enter care in a clinic there [his daughter explains: to treat the "neurological damage done by the benzos"]. They adjust the unspecified medication he was given in Florida. He reports finding relief at this point.
...
They then discuss a perceived difference between American and Russian approaches to treating these issues. They report that the American doctors wanted to treat an "underlying disorder" [ed: it's not stated what they thought this to be, JP and MP clarify only that it's something that "doesn't exist... probably doesn't exist"] rather than treating the benzo dependency, whereas the Russian doctors treated the benzo dependency [ed: but on the history they give, the Western doctors did try to treat the benzo dependency, just not in the way JP/MP wanted/expected, so it's unclear what they mean here]."
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 01, 2020, 05:45:40 PM
Post by: Mandark on July 01, 2020, 06:55:08 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 01, 2020, 06:57:15 PM
Post by: Tripon on July 01, 2020, 06:58:59 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 01, 2020, 07:09:11 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 01, 2020, 07:13:06 PM
Was Scott Adams always this much of a crank?Maybe not this much. But yes.
Post by: Mandark on July 01, 2020, 07:14:21 PM
This goes for Taibbi and Greenwald too.
Post by: benjipwns on July 01, 2020, 08:05:17 PM
There is a fatalist/doomer type viewpoint to a lot of his stuff. It's even in the TV series and comic strip. I read as much of that into those kinds of tweets as his ever increasing Trumpism. I think his original Trump stuff back in 2015 was just contrarianism and then he somehow became a true believer and supporter. (Or at least that's what I'll tell myself.) That all said, I always thought he was more conservative than he claimed (or knew) based on the few times he would touch on political themes back in the day. So I'm not entirely surprised at some of his stances being older than when he got into Trump.
edit: For example, Dilbert itself isn't a critique of big business, it's a critique of bad management. That's why people can recognize their own jobs in it so much even if they've never worked for a massive corporation like Pac Bell. He's always been kinda wishy-washy when people tried to read greater critiques into it all, especially when The Dilbert Principle came out and was huge. The TV series is rather more so but I attribute that more to Larry Charles' influence than anything Adams.
Post by: benjipwns on July 01, 2020, 10:18:51 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 01, 2020, 10:29:33 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 01, 2020, 10:48:00 PM
https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-jordan-peterson-s-barrage-of-revisionist-falsehoods-on-hitler-and-nazism-1.8955174
I think part of this, which the article doesn't really touch upon at all, is Jorp's inherent contrarianism. If you heard this guy speak for hours, I don't think it would really surprise you that he'd have "You know Hitler wasn't all bad" conclusions in a smug "well, ACKTUALLY" kind of way.
sure, but can you imagine jorp praising something good stalin did? the way he talks about hitler and stalin/mao/etc. is night and day. with the former, he speaks so calm, dispassionate and almost sympathetically. yet with the latter, he would be easy to mistake a homeless guy away from his park bench, if it weren't for his suit.
Post by: BisMarckie on July 02, 2020, 07:34:28 AM
https://youtu.be/EpzidpgZzq8
I found out that there is a small but passionate wank dad microuniverse centered around the WNBA.
https://youtu.be/ur6k2jadJRQ
Post by: Oblivion on July 02, 2020, 05:36:32 PM
apprently one intellectual dark web isn't enough :brain
Post by: Mandark on July 02, 2020, 05:38:37 PM
Post by: EchoRin on July 02, 2020, 08:55:43 PM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on July 02, 2020, 09:49:47 PM
Kasparov...New Chronologylmaooooooo
didnt know this until now. thought he was the one good one but nope; literally every grandmaster turns into a crank. like clockwork
Post by: eleuin on July 04, 2020, 02:18:16 AM
Check replies, the weird nerds have been overwhelmed
Post by: team filler on July 04, 2020, 04:52:17 PM
Post by: Nintex on July 04, 2020, 08:44:22 PM
Post by: Mandark on July 04, 2020, 09:28:34 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 04, 2020, 09:30:15 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 05, 2020, 05:11:12 AM
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1288377/disgraced-bb-star-andrew-tate-boasted-about-being-a-pimp-in-a-sick-poem-and-branded-any-woman-who-isnt-a-virgin-used-goods/ (https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1288377/disgraced-bb-star-andrew-tate-boasted-about-being-a-pimp-in-a-sick-poem-and-branded-any-woman-who-isnt-a-virgin-used-goods/)
Allegedly pimping cam girls in Romania. :heh
Post by: shosta on July 05, 2020, 11:33:06 AM
Post by: Nintex on July 05, 2020, 01:16:03 PM
:titus
Post by: VomKriege on July 05, 2020, 01:32:10 PM
https://twitter.com/AlanDersh/status/1279803319758848000 (https://twitter.com/AlanDersh/status/1279803319758848000)
:titus
Galaxy Matlock Brain move :brain
Post by: Crash Dummy on July 05, 2020, 02:02:19 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 05, 2020, 03:16:37 PM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1279837036443308032
??? I thought T already had this in the bag and was gaining support fast into the black voters ?
Post by: Mandark on July 05, 2020, 03:29:05 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 05, 2020, 03:34:56 PM
The Most Important Philosophy Forum Of Our Times.
Post by: Tripon on July 05, 2020, 09:09:18 PM
letthemfight.jpg
Post by: Mandark on July 05, 2020, 09:14:35 PM
Post by: Tripon on July 05, 2020, 09:16:27 PM
what's your beef with lowery?
I think he's fine. I'm mostly here for the car crash that will inevitably come.
Post by: Oblivion on July 05, 2020, 10:54:09 PM
Post by: Mandark on July 06, 2020, 03:14:10 PM
:brain
Post by: team filler on July 06, 2020, 04:27:40 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffLatzer/status/1280027733435842561
Post by: Oblivion on July 06, 2020, 07:53:57 PM
Some funny ass bars in this. The wank daddification of the press is slow but sure
https://twitter.com/SohrabAhmari/status/1278634754598985729
https://twitter.com/dynamic_effort/status/1279952808578560000
"laptop class"
:badass
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 07, 2020, 01:39:47 PM
https://twitter.com/MattWelch/status/1280489578336567297
:donot
Post by: Brehvolution on July 07, 2020, 04:12:50 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 07, 2020, 05:40:27 PM
https://twitter.com/MattWelch/status/1280489578336567297
:picard
Post by: VomKriege on July 07, 2020, 05:49:50 PM
WANK WARS ! :gun
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 07, 2020, 07:01:37 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 07, 2020, 07:59:16 PM
:hulk
Post by: shosta on July 07, 2020, 08:23:15 PM
Post by: Mandark on July 07, 2020, 08:35:24 PM
Never trust anyone with no sense of humor.
Post by: team filler on July 07, 2020, 09:06:15 PM
drag her, bb :bernie
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on July 07, 2020, 09:32:10 PM
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1277720270304919552
Another philosophy conversation is over :'(
Post by: Oblivion on July 07, 2020, 09:47:23 PM
Post by: naff on July 07, 2020, 11:26:05 PM
Post by: shosta on July 08, 2020, 12:51:38 AM
Post by: team filler on July 08, 2020, 03:17:03 AM
https://twitter.com/RealSteveCox/status/1280761752943116290
Post by: team filler on July 08, 2020, 04:35:27 AM
For those throwing shade at Peterson for "lifting" Mckenna; Academia is not stand up comedy. You share knowledge and discoveries. The hope is to disseminate far and wide.... You WANT lecturers to adopt your theory, research and even lectures in the entirety.
It is incredibly encouraging to see a tenured professor like Peterson validate McKenna and recognize the benefits of Psychedelics.
Peterson is a celebrated professional, with great influence... and We know he is willing to advocate for legislative changes, given the chance.
Learn to recognize our allies! Or we will never see the end of prohibition!
Post by: VomKriege on July 08, 2020, 05:15:27 AM
Never trust anyone with no sense of humor.
Indeed, never trust Mandark.
Post by: BIONIC on July 08, 2020, 05:47:25 AM
Post by: BisMarckie on July 08, 2020, 07:05:09 AM
Post by: EchoRin on July 08, 2020, 09:56:31 AM
Post by: curly on July 08, 2020, 04:35:21 PM
Post by: Mandark on July 08, 2020, 04:43:30 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
The last thing he did on Twitter before deleting his account was completely fabricating an accusation of sexual assault against someone who was arguing with him about politics. :doge
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Post by: Tripon on July 08, 2020, 04:44:52 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 08, 2020, 05:29:01 PM
Cancel cancel culture.
Cancel the clock.
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 08, 2020, 05:56:07 PM
Post by: curly on July 08, 2020, 06:29:17 PM
Cancel cancel culture.
Cancel the clock.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EcS4Tm_U8AEGF5S?format=jpg&name=small)
Post by: VomKriege on July 08, 2020, 06:51:24 PM
Cancel the cock.
Wanna see a cock disappear ?
Post by: BisMarckie on July 08, 2020, 07:02:33 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 08, 2020, 07:03:32 PM
See my cock disappear in your butt :bolo
Are you in yet ? I'm not feeling anything.
Post by: BisMarckie on July 08, 2020, 07:08:42 PM
Just like Napoleon III.
Post by: team filler on July 08, 2020, 07:43:15 PM
:karen
Post by: VomKriege on July 08, 2020, 08:44:44 PM
At first you don‘t feel anything and then your bussy gets utterly destroyed.
Just like Napoleon III.
:trigger
Fuck offffff.
We destroyed as many foreign places as the Brits while you were held down by your lack of seashores and oceanic access to a puny WeltPolitik so spare me the lesson.
:rethread
Post by: VomKriege on July 08, 2020, 08:47:34 PM
I'd laugh at failed Euro empires but now that my own empire is crumbling before my very eyes, it isn't as funny :goty
OK Scipio Afrikaner.
Post by: VomKriege on July 08, 2020, 09:43:09 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 08, 2020, 10:45:12 PM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on July 08, 2020, 11:08:05 PM
Post by: team filler on July 09, 2020, 01:57:44 AM
:whoo
Post by: Brehvolution on July 09, 2020, 09:55:24 AM
Post by: VomKriege on July 09, 2020, 10:26:19 AM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1281148930122747904
:brain
Post by: Tripon on July 09, 2020, 10:42:01 AM
https://twitter.com/SebGorka/status/1281038235611869184
:whoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1FjQV5vIX4
Post by: VomKriege on July 09, 2020, 11:51:15 AM
Are these people idiots or is it purposeful that they refuse to understand the scientific method?
Yes.
Post by: EchoRin on July 09, 2020, 04:07:34 PM
https://youtu.be/yJD1Iwy5lUY
Post by: VomKriege on July 09, 2020, 04:38:44 PM
Does it mean you did before ? :confused
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 09, 2020, 04:51:41 PM
Post by: team filler on July 09, 2020, 07:05:22 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on July 09, 2020, 07:26:57 PM
:dead
Post by: Mandark on July 09, 2020, 11:12:51 PM
The outflanking takes are coming full circle.
Post by: team filler on July 09, 2020, 11:13:24 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 10, 2020, 01:08:31 AM
https://twitter.com/KarlMarxJunior/status/1281283846051373056
It's all a grift, he'll sell what you'll buy. :yeshrug
Infowars is big on pseudo-science hypocondry and the NWO attacking your vital fluids, in order to push supplements and all that shit, so a face mask is pretty on-brand. Alex flipflopped from Corona being an hoax, massively overblown, a deadly bioweapon or an imminent plague that the powers that be downplayed depending on what sounded the best to prey on his audience's fears. But since then the Trojan false flag narrative and kneejerk reaction to masks really solidified among his clients and milieu so he's rolling with that.
On several occasions he went to tell his own "that totally happened" Epic Tales of Personal Resistance where he stood up to Globalist grocery store employees mandating mask use all while in the same breath trying to plug the Infowars one ("Make a statement").
With how strident and performative he's been getting lately (The pictured "I can't breathe" campaign) I don't think he mentions that product anymore on the broadcast but I'm sure his store still lists it. Alex Jones is not really the type to let any bucks pass by. By and large, his listeners are oblivious to those glaring contradictions.
Post by: Oblivion on July 10, 2020, 01:21:08 AM
https://twitter.com/shutupjaya/status/1281418124387127297
:bow
Post by: shosta on July 10, 2020, 01:24:59 AM
Post by: Mandark on July 10, 2020, 03:00:37 AM
This is the one thing I've seen written in the wake of The Letter that's felt like it added something new to my understanding rather than being caught in the same hamster wheel of discouse.
Post by: VomKriege on July 10, 2020, 03:07:37 AM
Damn... someone better pay Occam royalties
Occam's Royalty principle
Post by: team filler on July 10, 2020, 04:36:46 AM
Read the room, Debbie smhhttps://twitter.com/SavionWrightJ/status/1281030968887988224
Post by: Flannel Boy on July 10, 2020, 12:50:01 PM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1281606001486172160
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1281607048040456192
spoiler (click to show/hide)
The Spanish Flu and the 2009 H1N1 were not identical.
The 2009 H1N1 is estimated to have killed 12,469 deaths (confirmed deaths around 3k).
The 2009 H1N1 is estimated to have killed 12,469 deaths (confirmed deaths around 3k).
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https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1281608277973970949
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1281614118668120065
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1281621968601710593
Post by: Mandark on July 10, 2020, 01:02:11 PM
Post by: Tripon on July 11, 2020, 07:59:51 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Dk9GKs6.png)
I don't think retweeting a bunch of accounts that show how fucked we're normally are without a virus that can send you to an ICU bed fast.
Post by: shosta on July 11, 2020, 08:45:08 PM
Post by: naff on July 11, 2020, 08:45:39 PM
Post by: Mandark on July 11, 2020, 08:50:21 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 11, 2020, 08:58:10 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/z50P6jE.jpg)
woah if true
Post by: Oblivion on July 11, 2020, 11:05:46 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 12, 2020, 06:47:54 AM
who is bill mitchell and why should I care?
Estimated by an academic study to be the 26th most influential Twitter account for Trump during the 2016 campaign.
Former headhunter, went self employed pundit, got raptured by Donny's and was adamant Trump was going to win. He's on that high since and ride or die MAGA. Grifted his backers via crowdfunding to move to DC right into the politics hot zone but went to Florida instead. Crypto QAnon beliefs but for some reason he tried to rebrand and claim it for himself as #SlowWalker.
In short he's a missing link between Alex Jones and Fox (or OANN). I think he's a good barometer for some facets of undiluted Trumpism.
Post by: VomKriege on July 12, 2020, 07:10:50 AM
:derp
Post by: VomKriege on July 12, 2020, 04:18:10 PM
:foodcourt
I guess it's still early and we only have the example of all major countries in the world to draw from.
Post by: Mandark on July 12, 2020, 04:34:36 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 12, 2020, 04:40:36 PM
Post by: Mandark on July 12, 2020, 04:58:26 PM
Downplaying racism's always been a core tenet of the IDW, so not surprising in any case.
Post by: VomKriege on July 12, 2020, 05:05:04 PM
When was this?
Downplaying racism's always been a core tenet of the IDW, so not surprising in any case.
I want to say last week ? Was on my merry go round of wanks and I think I saw Shapiro, Bitchell, Molyneux and a couple others all parroting the same thing. To be fair I guess that's how hashtags works and that's definitely current, but it really read like something they received from the head office (Tucker Carlson ?).
Post by: VomKriege on July 12, 2020, 05:06:41 PM
Post by: Tripon on July 12, 2020, 05:09:12 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 12, 2020, 05:13:32 PM
Goya sells more than beans?
I guess those lifelong fans are just learning about it. :trumps
Edit : Found it on Simp Rubin timeline but reading the bio "Truth seeker. @NYTimes Bestselling author of GENIUS FOODS and THE GENIUS LIFE. Host of THE GENIUS LIFE podcast. Interested in health, performance & longevity." I'd say there is some wank daddy potential there.
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 12, 2020, 05:57:34 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 12, 2020, 06:04:50 PM
:noooo
Post by: naff on July 12, 2020, 06:11:10 PM
Post by: Mandark on July 12, 2020, 06:16:37 PM
I wonder if the Letter squad are going to rally around any of those guys.
Post by: VomKriege on July 12, 2020, 06:54:49 PM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1281350919150620679
Wouldn't Florida numbers be compiled by state authorities ?
Post by: Mandark on July 12, 2020, 06:59:08 PM
Post by: shosta on July 12, 2020, 07:05:26 PM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on July 12, 2020, 07:18:13 PM
Quote
in the trad. of Locke & Hume.this is either gibberish or trivial. when people say stuff like this all they mean is that they think dispassion is a necessary condition for ethical arguments to go through. which is, you know, nonobvious
Post by: Mandark on July 12, 2020, 07:18:49 PM
1) He makes it clear that the worry isn't about free speech generally, but about a specific group ("enlightenment" liberals) being persecuted by another specific group (wokescolds).
2) While he quotes McWhorter saying people are worried about being fired, his "worker" buddy is worried about being "labeled a bigot," ie people forming opinions of him based on what he says.
Post by: benjipwns on July 12, 2020, 10:52:11 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 13, 2020, 05:13:20 AM
Your boss and mentor is on air 24/7 calling people pedophiles, genociders, literal demons and transparently clamouring for the harm that will come to them (in "self defense"), check your own bollocks mate.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 13, 2020, 06:23:00 AM
Post by: Tripon on July 13, 2020, 10:55:35 AM
(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/cj6OfHN4R2vkMFiY2CceFBZfoMI=/1400x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/9814961/Screen_Shot_2017_12_05_at_2.34.39_PM.png)
Post by: Nintex on July 13, 2020, 10:57:17 AM
Wank sugar daddy
Post by: VomKriege on July 13, 2020, 11:01:14 AM
Quote
jacobwohl_fan_page This is what a real man looks like, folks!! Wow! 😍🔥 @jacobawohl is pure manly strength!
I'm sure that's not at all an astroturfing account operated by Wohl touching his nipple while typing.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on July 13, 2020, 01:33:02 PM
Post by: Tripon on July 13, 2020, 01:33:49 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 13, 2020, 02:09:01 PM
Post by: Nintex on July 13, 2020, 02:12:36 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 13, 2020, 05:43:28 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 13, 2020, 06:14:08 PM
ezra talks to yasha mounk about The LetterTM
Post by: VomKriege on July 14, 2020, 09:24:44 AM
"If Trump loses, America as we know it will only be a memory."
This is the slowest reveal of a predictable plot twist.
:beli
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 14, 2020, 11:33:15 AM
Post by: BIONIC on July 14, 2020, 11:55:19 AM
https://twitter.com/laurawags/status/1283050077070786563
(https://i.imgur.com/p7404W0.gif)
All it took is one post from me :jeb
Post by: curly on July 14, 2020, 12:14:41 PM
Post by: Nintex on July 14, 2020, 01:22:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNvuYPpX0C0
Post by: VomKriege on July 14, 2020, 02:27:19 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 14, 2020, 03:05:13 PM
:engel
Post by: Tripon on July 14, 2020, 03:09:12 PM
https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1283107567586033664
:engel
So it's a new website but from guys I never want to read from. Sounds great.
Post by: VomKriege on July 14, 2020, 03:14:45 PM
"Order 66" is already corny when Alex Jones uses it, nevermind when it's the serious Vincent Adultmen.
:doge
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 14, 2020, 04:19:40 PM
Post by: shosta on July 14, 2020, 04:20:40 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 14, 2020, 04:21:16 PM
Post by: team filler on July 14, 2020, 04:45:06 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 14, 2020, 05:01:32 PM
https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1283107567586033664
:engel
"preposterously named “Intellectual Dark Web” "
what? HE'S the one who came up with that stupid name! :neogaf
Post by: Mandark on July 14, 2020, 05:08:08 PM
Then he got ratioed, deleted the tweet, said his wife made him delete the tweet, then said actually he wasn't mad and it was all fun.
And Zaid Jilani responded to the original tweet with an apparently sincere "sorry about that, hope your friend becomes more open-minded."
Post by: Oblivion on July 14, 2020, 05:16:01 PM
Have we talked about the guy who kicked a friend out of his house (or a house he was renting in France) because that friend said bad things about Bari Weiss?
Then he got ratioed, deleted the tweet, said his wife made him delete the tweet, then said actually he wasn't mad and it was all fun.
And Zaid Jilani responded to the original tweet with an apparently sincere "sorry about that, hope your friend becomes more open-minded."
huh, weird. i thought it was mentioned, but i guess not.
link to the zaid tweet? cause that's just *chef's kiss*
Post by: Oblivion on July 14, 2020, 05:18:18 PM
https://twitter.com/laurawags/status/1283050077070786563
(https://i.imgur.com/p7404W0.gif)
https://twitter.com/CaitlinPacific/status/1283076422488035328
:jeanluc
Post by: Oblivion on July 14, 2020, 05:23:16 PM
:dead
https://twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/1283102405584920581
https://twitter.com/CarmanTse/status/1283112262606168064
Post by: Mandark on July 14, 2020, 05:40:48 PM
link to the zaid tweet? cause that's just *chef's kiss*
https://twitter.com/ZaidJilani/status/1282736240765407233
Again, this is addressed to the person who kicked someone out of his house for not being respectful to Bari Weiss, not to the person who got kicked out.
Post by: team filler on July 14, 2020, 05:52:57 PM
:birdman
Post by: VomKriege on July 14, 2020, 06:50:01 PM
Take Alain Soral
(https://i.imgur.com/crmwxDQ.jpg)
The brother of a moderately famous actress, coming from a pretty nasty home, he apparently cruises in the eighties-early nineties between the world of clubs, fashion, advertising, filmmaking and last but not least, medias. He's featured as a guest periodically. He also dives deep in the world of "street seduction" and write a couple of books about it (one getting successful) and become an "expert" about it for the media. He said in one interview his pick up addiction appealed to him for the class warfare aspect of it (extracting some of the surplus value by fucking bougie girls). He says he was a Communist Party member at that point (unconfirmed). In the late nineties he starts ranting about feminism and manhood being under attack.
From 2000 to 2004. He gets to make a real film about street pick up, that quickly gets derailed out of cinemas, and gets a few more mid-profile guest slots on TV. He apparently later blamed his film failure on gays and Jews "that both hate me". Gets refused as a freemason too.
He then decries "communautarisme" (Identity politics) which is always a looming talking point in France, taking aim at gays, feminists, Jews, etc... And start drifting to the far right. "Identitarians" (a subset of nationalists) start trying to associate with him, but he quickly goes to the Front National party and appears at some official events there in 2007 or about and is a special councel to Jean Marie Le Pen. He leaves in 2009 after failing to secure the top spot in their European election list, with some people in the party commenting he was decidedly too obsessed with sionists for their taste. He already started his own club meanwhile, Égalité & Réconciliation, with the help of former members of the GUD (as close as you'll probably get to French neofascists, a group that basically triggered the modern far right here).
He ends up heading an "antisionist" list in those Euro elections alongside disgraced comic Dieudonné and a French Shia representative (there's talk that their campaign was funded by Iran to the tune of a couple millions). That one was really absurd, with meetings where they claimed that sionism was behind every divorce in France and a political program that had almost no mention of Europe but over a dozen mentions of rooting out sionist influence in France.
He had a long association with Dieudonné, a talented (black) comic. Dieudonné spiraled after making a sketch in 2003 on late night TV playing a Nazi Israeli sionist (in full stereotypical orthodox attire). All hell breaks loose for him and he was engaged in an arms race of being "cancelled" (with public authorities pressuring some halls to not accept him) and equivalent provocations for almost 15 years. Soral and Dieudonné already considered running together in 2004 Euro elections on an "Euro Palestine" list but retired before the ballot was cast. Dieudonné himself would probably be a full currpost... I think they had a fallout, or at least Dieudonné became a lot more shy on later years (also facing some real legal pursuits for tax avoidance). Please note that Dieudonné coined a popular arm sign (La quenelle, basically "you're getting assfucked".) that was at the center of some hysteria for a while around 2013, not unlike the whole OK sign thing you have your side of the pond.
Since 2009 Soral mainly focused on Égalité & Réconciliation and became a prominent online figure of what wasn't yet called the "alt right". He kept some stock with some elements of the FN party for a while. He self identify as a red-brown, national-socialist or a leftist nationalist. He launched his own print label and managed his own platforms. He had run-ins with Facebook (he was banned in 2017 or 2018) and YouTube (suspended briefly in 2018, banned in 2020).
I think it's interesting because you have the whole pick up artist / media personality / shades of claiming to be a philosopher / moving to his own online platform / far right figure recipe, but starting a lot earlier than current American Wank Dads.
Post by: benjipwns on July 14, 2020, 06:55:34 PM
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As part of the debate on "laïcité" in French schools, Soral claimed to prefer the Muslim veil to thong underwear.:hmm
Post by: VomKriege on July 14, 2020, 06:59:06 PM
QuoteAs part of the debate on "laïcité" in French schools, Soral claimed to prefer the Muslim veil to thong underwear.:hmm
Oh benji, I'm sure you would love Eric Zemmour.
Post by: benjipwns on July 14, 2020, 09:38:44 PM
Post by: Mandark on July 14, 2020, 09:57:47 PM
Post by: Tripon on July 14, 2020, 10:01:00 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 14, 2020, 10:01:11 PM
I realize I never brought up France's Papa Branleurs here when we have at least a couple of noteworthy examples.
Take Alain Soral
(https://i.imgur.com/crmwxDQ.jpg)
dude even looks like stefan molyneux
Post by: Oblivion on July 14, 2020, 10:02:21 PM
When Dave Rubin was complaining his liberal friends was leaving him, I guess he was talking about the Weinstein brothers. Probably didn't get invited to whatever this thing is. :lol
he had a video the other day where he was whining about how he sent a billion requests to joe rogan to come back on his show, and hasn't heard back once :heyman
Post by: Mandark on July 14, 2020, 10:32:43 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 14, 2020, 10:41:35 PM
https://twitter.com/ZaidJilani/status/1282888185962467333
:era
Post by: benjipwns on July 14, 2020, 10:49:49 PM
https://twitter.com/MichaelAusiello/status/1283223292061585414
edit: also filler related:
https://twitter.com/krystalball/status/1283084996979326977
Post by: naff on July 14, 2020, 11:36:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS-sxJFn6O0
Post by: naff on July 14, 2020, 11:57:17 PM
Post by: Mandark on July 15, 2020, 12:08:28 AM
Post by: EchoRin on July 15, 2020, 12:20:08 AM
Appears to be the case. Interesting.
Though I guess he did not resign, but was fired for his opposition.
edit: and Katie claimed she was not going to out the author. https://www.thecut.com/2018/01/katie-roiphe-comment-harpers-controversy-shitty-media-men-list.html
Your memory would be correct Mandark
edit 2: Checked the Harper's article. Yes it names the author. I don't really know what else to add to it as the creator decided to out themselves before the article came out so I guess at this point it's he said she said about what Katie's original intention was.
Post by: naff on July 15, 2020, 12:22:46 AM
IIRC Roiphe was commissioned to write that piece (which named the creator of the Shitty Media Men list without her permission) by the magazine's publicist, because the publisher wanted something contrarian about #metoo but the editor, who later resigned over it, disagreed. Just a huge clusterfuck.
:yuck
the wank dads really are just a bunch of grifters hanging out in a big ol' circle jerk
Post by: Mandark on July 15, 2020, 12:27:55 AM
Also, Roiphe being at the center of a controversy for writing some anti-feminist magazine feature bolsters my belief that we're rerunning a bunch of the 90's culture wars.
Post by: naff on July 15, 2020, 12:36:19 AM
It felt similar to the NYT Cotton op-ed thing, where people had been keeping their mouth shut about upper management for a while but it finally boiled over. Nicole Cliffe was offering to pay writers who wanted to pull their pieces from Harper's but worried about losing money. I miss Cliffe, she had the only good Twitter account.
Also, Roiphe being at the center of a controversy for writing some anti-feminist magazine feature bolsters my belief that we're rerunning a bunch of the 90's culture wars.
Lol, i remember Etoilet arguing about people misrepresenting what JP was saying in an interview with Camille Paglia around the same time too.
Post by: team filler on July 15, 2020, 04:33:42 AM
https://twitter.com/saeen90_/status/1283285795273572357
https://twitter.com/MarxistSoccer/status/1262927635669233670
:birdman
Post by: team filler on July 15, 2020, 04:56:13 AM
:bernie
Post by: VomKriege on July 15, 2020, 05:18:34 AM
Maybe I'm reading that thing wrong but the recent "Alt-Right" turn in the US seems a lot more piloted by actual cryptofascists, neofacists and neonazis than the Tea Party.
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 15, 2020, 02:22:04 PM
Bootstraps :salute
Post by: Nintex on July 15, 2020, 05:28:52 PM
Post by: team filler on July 15, 2020, 05:39:18 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 15, 2020, 05:51:06 PM
Was Fauci politized by any of the other presidents he's worked under
I don't know the context of his nomination by Reagan, maybe there was some political intent by the administration and in the context of AIDS. Fauci is not unfamiliar with getting some severe public heat but not by his bosses AFAIK.
Post by: VomKriege on July 15, 2020, 05:55:50 PM
:ego
Post by: benjipwns on July 15, 2020, 06:07:57 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 15, 2020, 06:40:56 PM
Post by: team filler on July 15, 2020, 06:43:23 PM
Post by: Nintex on July 15, 2020, 06:53:45 PM
Someone found the keys to the Twitter kingdom
Post by: team filler on July 15, 2020, 06:57:21 PM
Easy, AdolfillerBAN THE STRO AND KILL HIM :ltg
Post by: team filler on July 16, 2020, 03:36:13 AM
Post by: Tripon on July 16, 2020, 10:59:13 AM
:rogan
Post by: VomKriege on July 16, 2020, 11:16:17 AM
:hulk
Post by: VomKriege on July 16, 2020, 11:39:51 AM
Retweeted by Ben Shapiro :
https://twitter.com/Yair_Rosenberg/status/1283590854712659969
Oh I guess "systematic racism" do exist after all. :juicy
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 16, 2020, 11:44:33 AM
Post by: curly on July 16, 2020, 12:54:57 PM
filler annihilated
Post by: VomKriege on July 16, 2020, 01:01:47 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ec_ax46WkAARw38?format=jpg&name=medium)
filler annihilated
End of class (warfare) :bedroomeyes
Post by: Oblivion on July 16, 2020, 02:56:33 PM
https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1283483807975260160
:rogan
great wank dad material to start the day off with
Post by: Tripon on July 16, 2020, 03:06:31 PM
https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1283483807975260160
:rogan
great wank dad material to start the day off with
https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1283483812450557952
make it staph. :trigger
Post by: VomKriege on July 16, 2020, 03:15:11 PM
Post by: shosta on July 16, 2020, 03:20:06 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 17, 2020, 09:05:51 AM
backing up race realists to own the libs
Post by: curly on July 17, 2020, 04:04:47 PM
Post by: Nuitangg on July 17, 2020, 08:41:52 PM
:neogaf
Post by: shosta on July 17, 2020, 11:22:05 PM
Post by: Mandark on July 17, 2020, 11:37:03 PM
(this insight stolen directly from Kieran Healy)
Post by: Oblivion on July 17, 2020, 11:38:19 PM
YOU DON'T SAY? :neogaf
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 17, 2020, 11:44:47 PM
Is there a geographical map of us counties with area proportionate to population? I saw that dumb fucking Ben Shapiro tweet and I'm tired of incidence maps just being population maps
(https://i.imgur.com/OBe6h3W.jpg)
Post by: Mandark on July 17, 2020, 11:47:54 PM
https://twitter.com/racefortheprize/status/1284265158005514241
YOU DON'T SAY? :neogaf
Looks like TCW said this on the Taibbi/Halper podcast as a guest.
Semi-related, did anyone listen to the Chapo episode Taibbi was on recently? I only know about it cause of the Twitter backlash to stuff he and Amber Frost said on there.
Post by: Oblivion on July 17, 2020, 11:53:23 PM
https://twitter.com/zei_squirrel/status/1284328426204274694
Post by: shosta on July 18, 2020, 12:09:16 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/OBe6h3W.jpg)damn... county one is unreadable
Post by: Tripon on July 18, 2020, 12:14:07 AM
Post by: Oblivion on July 18, 2020, 12:18:56 AM
Post by: Mandark on July 18, 2020, 12:25:53 AM
Post by: benjipwns on July 18, 2020, 01:53:52 AM
Post by: Transhuman on July 18, 2020, 02:12:28 AM
https://twitter.com/sapinker/status/1283188578093355008
backing up race realists to own the libs
If someone thinks the research he was doing would lead to racist conclusions, then they must genuinely think that some races might be inferior to others.
Post by: Oblivion on July 18, 2020, 02:17:33 AM
Probably just Bari herself.
you know, i was chuckling at the thought, but the more i thought about, the more i could legit believe that would be the case. for all glenn's faults, he was one of bari's most ardent critics early on, and he wrote the article that plenty of leftists link to to this very day to dunk on her. so take bari's animosity and add her narcissism and complete lack of self-awareness to the equation, and i can totally see her doing it. plus bari cancelling someone in the quest to denounce cancel culture would be 100% on brand for her. :heh
Post by: Mandark on July 18, 2020, 02:25:26 AM
Is it just because they don't like him? Because I understand that with Glenn. But if it's because of his views what could they possibly be? Looking at the list of people who were acceptable the only thing that he doesn't share with at least one other person on there seems to be that he's gay married with kids in Brazil and also a Russiafraudlies skeptic. And that's with a glance of the names I do recognize, not an actual looking into most of these people I don't even recognize.
no way, that would imply this was primarily an exercise in social-professional cliquishness in a subset of the media class rather than a principled stand on free speech
Post by: benjipwns on July 18, 2020, 02:26:34 AM
Post by: VomKriege on July 18, 2020, 02:34:05 AM
http://sherlonya.net/openletters/tag/barry-white/ (http://sherlonya.net/openletters/tag/barry-white/)
Post by: benjipwns on July 18, 2020, 02:42:19 AM
Is there a geographical map of us counties with area proportionate to population? I saw that dumb fucking Ben Shapiro tweet and I'm tired of incidence maps just being population mapshttps://worldmapper.org/maps/
Post by: Oblivion on July 18, 2020, 03:02:37 AM
Has anyone actually watched the podcast or seen elsewhere where it might be discussed what started, led to and organized this whole Open Letter™? Was it just this dude? Did Rowling order it from her TERF lair? etc.
i listened to the Chatterson podcast, but i don't recall offhand hearing them talk about specifically what led to it.
taibbi also had some really weird takes. he was complaining for most of the beginning by saying the problem with the NYT was that they hired a bunch of stuffy, careerist liberals who lost touch with "the common man", and because they lack diversity, they hire people like bari weiss, because that's what they think conservatives are. and after this screed about how the problem with the media is that it's run by a bunch of elitist liberals, that's when they introduce...chatterton, who taibbi says exactly the kind of person the media needs right now. :thinking the entire screen was an incoherent mess
Post by: Oblivion on July 18, 2020, 09:54:07 AM
Post by: Nintex on July 18, 2020, 11:13:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skk3l82slY8The cycle of this is pretty interesting.
The Tea Party appeared, Trump and friends hijacked the Tea Party.
Qanon appeared, Qanon hijacked the Trump Party.
With Qanon it is also impossible to figure out who the true believers are and who is just backing it to grift or worse, get elected.
And then there's Trump, doing the 'nudge nudge, wink wink' stuff when he sees a rando with a Q shirt in the audience.
Post by: shosta on July 18, 2020, 11:19:24 AM
Post by: Nintex on July 18, 2020, 11:22:27 AM
Post by: Tripon on July 18, 2020, 01:04:03 PM
Can anyone name someone who was fired due to cancel culture that was mostly innocent? Only person I can think of is David Shor.
:bobby
Post by: Transhuman on July 18, 2020, 01:33:53 PM
Can anyone name someone who was fired due to cancel culture that was mostly innocent? Only person I can think of is David Shor.
Well if we're limiting it to the comedians in the entertainment industry, and not including people accused of unproven sexual impropriety, there's Shane Gillis, Sarah Silverman (not fired, but passed over for roles), James Gunn (unfired when they realised no-one actually cared), Norm Macdonald (having his late-night appearance cancelled and seemingly being blacklisted).
Kevin Hart I don't feel much sympathy for, and I didn't care for his homophobic jokes (if you can call them that), though I still think he was "innocent enough" to host the Oscars.
Post by: shosta on July 18, 2020, 01:41:08 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 18, 2020, 01:45:24 PM
Post by: Transhuman on July 18, 2020, 01:50:11 PM
It's the people like Gillis who get cancelled before they're big that lose out
Post by: shosta on July 18, 2020, 01:53:51 PM
You don't truly get cancelledso... cancel culture isn't really a problem then
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It's the people like Gillis who get cancelled before they're big that lose outEntertainment has ALWAYS been risk averse. This doesn't seem like something new but something that's always been true for comedians with material that offends or can offend major groups of people
Post by: curly on July 18, 2020, 01:54:18 PM
Post by: shosta on July 18, 2020, 01:55:55 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 18, 2020, 02:01:06 PM
Someone with fuck-off money and power can subvert that.
The only people who have to really worry about being "cancelled" are the poor and common masses. No power to fight back and their material conditions pregnable.
You can see a tangential mentality of this popping up in the coronavirus situation. Where (poor) people dying in certain states is "good" and the other senator floating the idea of withholding aid to certain states. This all of course seeks to punish a certain, financially vulnerable, population slice.
Post by: Transhuman on July 18, 2020, 02:12:49 PM
You don't truly get cancelledso... cancel culture isn't really a problem then
You don't truly get cancelled if you have a fan-base that doesn't care, and your employer feels like they can stand the heat.
That scenario pretty much only exists for rappers who abuse women.
For everyone else it's going to cost them. Maybe not everything, but something.
Post by: shosta on July 18, 2020, 02:13:33 PM
That scenario pretty much only exists for rappers who abuse women.the racial undertones of this post 👀
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 18, 2020, 02:14:09 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 18, 2020, 02:16:56 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 18, 2020, 02:17:48 PM
That scenario pretty much only exists for rappers who abuse women.the racial undertones of this post 👀
since bionic will inevitably be on your case shortly, just what is bionic's beef with you
Post by: Transhuman on July 18, 2020, 02:21:21 PM
That scenario pretty much only exists for rappers who abuse women.the racial undertones of this post 👀
since bionic will inevitably be on your case shortly, just what is bionic's beef with you
He loves me what beef?
Post by: curly on July 18, 2020, 02:36:05 PM
let them fight
Gotta say I respect that he recognizes that Bari Weiss is a huge fraud
Post by: Rufus on July 18, 2020, 02:39:33 PM
If someone thinks the research he was doing would lead to racist conclusions, then they must genuinely think that some races might be inferior to others.Everyone tearing down Andrew Wakefield's work on MMR vaccines being causally linked to autism is an anti-vaxxer.
Post by: Transhuman on July 18, 2020, 03:02:59 PM
If someone thinks the research he was doing would lead to racist conclusions, then they must genuinely think that some races might be inferior to others.Everyone tearing down Andrew Wakefield's work on MMR vaccines being causally linked to autism is an anti-vaxxer.
There's a difference in that Wakefield's research was published and faulty and easily proven to be fraudulent.
The only reason I can figure someone would want to stifle research into genetic links to intelligence is because they think there is a racial component to intelligence (which I do not). That's why I think this research is commendable because if anything it stands to disprove notions of racial superiority/inferiority.
Post by: Rufus on July 18, 2020, 03:07:11 PM
Post by: Transhuman on July 18, 2020, 03:10:35 PM
Post by: shosta on July 18, 2020, 04:02:52 PM
The only reason I can figure someone would want to stifle research into genetic links to intelligence is because they think there is a racial component to intelligence (which I do not). That's why I think this research is commendable because if anything it stands to disprove notions of racial superiority/inferiority.is there someone "stifling" this research
Post by: Transhuman on July 18, 2020, 04:14:49 PM
Post by: shosta on July 18, 2020, 04:19:22 PM
Post by: Transhuman on July 18, 2020, 04:21:49 PM
Post by: shosta on July 18, 2020, 04:29:51 PM
Post by: BIONIC on July 18, 2020, 05:46:38 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 18, 2020, 06:11:56 PM
Can anyone name someone who was fired due to cancel culture that was mostly innocent? Only person I can think of is David Shor.
even shor's case is questionable because iirc, he himself never stated that he was cancelled.
Post by: shosta on July 18, 2020, 06:13:36 PM
even shor's case is questionable because iirc, he himself never stated that he was cancelled.He took it very gracefully but he was pretty clearly fired for claiming that riots were correlated with a decline in democratic vote share in those cities/counties.
Post by: Oblivion on July 18, 2020, 06:21:49 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 18, 2020, 09:05:43 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 18, 2020, 11:07:29 PM
https://twitter.com/yaf/status/1284294826117259266?
This is just sad.
Post by: Tripon on July 19, 2020, 12:39:21 AM
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After a pause on Stone’s end, he apparently began speaking to someone else with him during the interview. The first part of what he said was muffled, but he could clearly be heard complaining about “arguing with this Negro,” apparently in reference to O’Kelly.
After a prolonged silence on his end, Stone then reappeared and said, “Uhh, you’re back.”
“I was talking and you said something about ‘Negro’ so I wasn’t exactly sure,” O’Kelly said.
“I did not,” Stone shot back, “You’re out of your mind.” He went on to dismiss the accusation with an exasperated “whatever.”
:doge
https://www.thedailybeast.com/roger-stone-appears-to-use-racial-slur-when-pressed-on-special-treatment-from-trump-by-black-radio-host?ref=home
Post by: VomKriege on July 19, 2020, 02:13:45 AM
https://twitter.com/BretWeinstein/status/1284564434959003648?
Curious to read the allegedly "violence prone" statement.
Edit :
https://twitter.com/MattLech/status/1284578867018108933
Post by: VomKriege on July 19, 2020, 02:53:11 PM
QuoteAfter a pause on Stone’s end, he apparently began speaking to someone else with him during the interview. The first part of what he said was muffled, but he could clearly be heard complaining about “arguing with this Negro,” apparently in reference to O’Kelly.
After a prolonged silence on his end, Stone then reappeared and said, “Uhh, you’re back.”
“I was talking and you said something about ‘Negro’ so I wasn’t exactly sure,” O’Kelly said.
“I did not,” Stone shot back, “You’re out of your mind.” He went on to dismiss the accusation with an exasperated “whatever.”
:doge
https://www.thedailybeast.com/roger-stone-appears-to-use-racial-slur-when-pressed-on-special-treatment-from-trump-by-black-radio-host?ref=home
It's been known.
:nsfw
https://youtu.be/lHbAsndSKXA?t=425 (https://youtu.be/lHbAsndSKXA?t=425)
Quote from: 2017
https://www.businessinsider.fr/us/roger-stone-apologizing-for-past-racist-comments-over-cannabis-speech-2017-8
https://www.businessinsider.fr/us/roger-stone-apologizing-for-past-racist-comments-over-cannabis-speech-2017-8
"There is no doubt that some of my tweets are too pungent and politically incorrect for my critics," Stone wrote in his apology, obtained by The Daily Caller. "In retrospect, I see that this attempt at sarcasm can be seen as a slur therefore I heartfully apologize to all this gentleman."
Stone was specifically referring to remarks he made calling journalist Roland Martin a "negro" and remarking on NBC host Megyn Kelly's "nice set of cans," among other slurs and epithets he's used for his rivals on his often-offensive Twitter account. Stone called his Twitter feed "lively," and "not for the faint of heart."
Post by: Oblivion on July 19, 2020, 07:29:22 PM
if there was any doubt taibbi's decided to go full wank dad
Post by: curly on July 19, 2020, 09:23:21 PM
Post by: shosta on July 19, 2020, 09:24:38 PM
Post by: EchoRin on July 19, 2020, 09:31:25 PM
Post by: Tripon on July 19, 2020, 10:05:06 PM
Does anyone still listen to chapo? Is Virgil dead/in jail? Do they still talk about Bernie? Did Amber sign The Letter?
Virgil came back mid June. They're just talking about current events and living that Grillism life style. Felix started a side project of reviewing shitty NBC dramas.
Post by: Mandark on July 19, 2020, 10:14:49 PM
From how people were reacting on Twitter, went about as you'd expect.
Post by: shosta on July 19, 2020, 10:28:41 PM
(the rest is, y'know, racism).aw man this reminds me of something that made me so mad recently:
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1284617069653372930
Post by: curly on July 19, 2020, 10:29:07 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 19, 2020, 10:43:28 PM
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1284617069653372930
This is a very clear case of "Why Not Both?"
Post by: Oblivion on July 19, 2020, 11:23:54 PM
They did an episode on cancel culture that included Amber and had Matt Taibbi as the guest.
From how people were reacting on Twitter, went about as you'd expect.
i finally listened to that episode, and yeah, it was pretty bad. i expected taibbi and amber to whine about the terrors of cancel culture, but that other chapo going along with it was immensely disappointing.
edit: somebody on twitter said it best i think (paraphrasing): that episode was like what all chapo critics who never listened to chapo thought chapo was like
edit 2: some highlights:
- BLM/the left needs to be nicer to cops because most of them are working class people who can't get any other jobs
- one can make an argument that overpolicing is actually LESS racist than underpolicing
- black people have been telling taibbi that they want MORE police in their neighborhoods, not less
- BLM is criticizing minority cops, which puzzles taibbi and frost because by definition minority cops can't be racists
- they criticize the 1619 project saying that the U.S. wasn't founded on white supremacy and they lament how the project is now standard curriculum in schools all over the country (no source was provided)
- constant conflation of the BLM protests with cancel culture
- lots of whining from taibbi about people in newsrooms 'feeling silenced'
- calls leftist activists insane 'maoists' while insisting it's wrong to call people you disagree with 'nazis'.
absolutely no pushback from the male chapo whatsoever. it was pretty bad
Post by: Oblivion on July 20, 2020, 11:36:12 AM
https://twitter.com/Xenos_RIFS/status/1285107700305547266
Post by: Tripon on July 20, 2020, 11:39:55 AM
https://twitter.com/edburmila/status/1285229230750564352
https://twitter.com/ErikLoomis/status/1285230447228866560
(https://i.imgur.com/fxOj76V.png)
:lol
Post by: Mandark on July 20, 2020, 01:16:58 PM
Post by: shosta on July 20, 2020, 01:21:27 PM
Post by: Mandark on July 20, 2020, 01:27:37 PM
He did write a pretty decent piece about daily fantasy sports a while back.
Post by: Transhuman on July 20, 2020, 01:35:12 PM
https://twitter.com/MattGrossmann/status/1284859221197152256
:science
White collar worker, works inside, pale
Blue collar worker, works outside, tanned
Post by: team filler on July 20, 2020, 03:33:23 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 20, 2020, 06:00:48 PM
https://twitter.com/NathanJRobinson/status/1285253979547537409
Post by: Oblivion on July 20, 2020, 06:39:32 PM
Post by: Tripon on July 20, 2020, 06:43:56 PM
Post by: shosta on July 20, 2020, 06:46:17 PM
Post by: EchoRin on July 20, 2020, 06:48:34 PM
This Michael Brooks? Damn.
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 20, 2020, 06:54:28 PM
https://youtu.be/dnpK6TlwFF4
This Michael Brooks? Damn.
:umad
Post by: team filler on July 21, 2020, 03:02:22 AM
Post by: VomKriege on July 21, 2020, 03:06:08 AM
Michael Brooks wasn't a wank dad, he kicked ass. RIP.
His contagious laugh at the absurdity of wank dads will be sorely missed.
https://youtu.be/t4Xvz-PyZks
Post by: VomKriege on July 21, 2020, 07:56:09 AM
but it was the most philosophically important hour in the history of Twitch (and mankind)
I was browsing the back pages and that post reminded me of a phrase written by strident fascist and mysogynist Drieu La Rochelle in a novella centered on a man breaking up with his wife "She cried for two hours but that was the most meaningful she would ever be." (Paraphrasing.)
Post by: Tripon on July 21, 2020, 12:30:53 PM
Post by: shosta on July 21, 2020, 03:36:11 PM
Post by: team filler on July 21, 2020, 03:42:45 PM
:myniccabut it was the most philosophically important hour in the history of Twitch (and mankind)
I was browsing the back pages
Post by: VomKriege on July 21, 2020, 04:24:41 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Rh1w6s9.png)
...in 2060.
Post by: VomKriege on July 21, 2020, 05:12:29 PM
Read this thread to die instantly :lawd
https://twitter.com/mothercvnt/status/1262227533866496000
https://twitter.com/mothercvnt/status/1262228395896651777
Relevant again.
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 21, 2020, 05:15:12 PM
Post by: Tripon on July 21, 2020, 08:23:54 PM
Michael Tracy being anti mask seems about right.
Edit: should give him the benefit of the doubt that it's sarcasm.
Post by: naff on July 21, 2020, 10:02:04 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 22, 2020, 02:43:41 AM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1285772017871065088
Post by: EchoRin on July 22, 2020, 03:02:25 AM
https://twitter.com/cenkuygur/status/1285676623849820160
Well... the only good thing that came of Trump winning in 2016 was TYT compilation of them losing their minds. If Trump wins in 2020 that will once again be the only good thing.
Cenk is such a tool.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 22, 2020, 03:11:21 AM
Post by: EchoRin on July 22, 2020, 03:14:41 AM
Post by: Oblivion on July 22, 2020, 05:07:07 AM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1285774083838410754
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1285772017871065088
but...but parler? :doge
Post by: VomKriege on July 22, 2020, 05:23:35 AM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1285774083838410754
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1285772017871065088
but...but parler? :doge
He's also there, he mentions it alongside the above one in another tweet. But CloutHub has the Bill Mitchell™ input !
He's also given an email address for his loyal fans to subscribe to his newsletter and know which dead end site he'll go to in case he's more than shadoloobanned from Twitter.
I think the QAnon purge shook him a bit.
Post by: team filler on July 22, 2020, 06:46:13 AM
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 22, 2020, 03:34:32 PM
Post by: Tripon on July 22, 2020, 03:50:51 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on July 22, 2020, 05:09:51 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 22, 2020, 05:17:15 PM
Post by: Tripon on July 22, 2020, 05:26:02 PM
Rubin is really a simpleton, even by wank standards, isn't he ?
Dave Rubin literally got told by Dennis Prager his value is as former gay liberal that is still on the 'left' if he wants to make money. So he says he's now a conservative that will vote for Trump.
So, yes.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on July 22, 2020, 05:42:52 PM
Rubin is really a simpleton, even by wank standards, isn't he ?
Even Joe Rogan doesn’t think he’s all there cognitively.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hkrq6_VRrAg
Post by: Tripon on July 22, 2020, 05:44:49 PM
Is this how people around the world feel like when an American just starts talking shit about their country without knowing shit about it?
Post by: VomKriege on July 22, 2020, 05:51:50 PM
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1286040908232708101
Is this how people around the world feel like when an American just starts talking shit about their country without knowing shit about it?
"If seatbelts are effective, why can't I drive at 140mph everywhere ? Checkmate libtards."
Literally can't comprehend anything else than binary thought.
Post by: team filler on July 22, 2020, 05:56:09 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 22, 2020, 06:34:28 PM
https://twitter.com/TheLetterhack/status/1228469538964025344
:mindblown
:fbm
Post by: naff on July 22, 2020, 06:44:05 PM
Post by: team filler on July 22, 2020, 06:51:54 PM
Post by: team filler on July 22, 2020, 06:52:59 PM
see this tattoo here kids, i got this at the beginning of the culture wars in the 20s. i was on the front lines.https://twitter.com/JockoPotato/status/1228477635417772036
Post by: Oblivion on July 22, 2020, 09:07:27 PM
https://twitter.com/TheLetterhack/status/1228469538964025344
:mindblown
i loved the guy and miss him greatly, getting a tattoo of youtubers is pretty cringe-y :doge
Post by: benjipwns on July 22, 2020, 11:24:27 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 23, 2020, 12:52:45 AM
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Among the signatories was Thomas Chatterton Williams, a contributing writer at the New York Times Magazine and a columnist for Harper’s, who also had a hand in writing the letter. Williams is the author of two memoirs, “Losing My Cool” and “Self-Portrait in Black and White,” which recount his struggles with racial identity as a teen-ager and as an adult. The son of a Black father and a white mother, he describes himself in his second book as “an ex-black man.” He is known for his critique of Ta-Nehisi Coates, whom Williams believes overemphasizes race and racism, creating “a fantasy that flattens psychological and material difference within and between groups.”
I recently spoke by phone with Williams, who was at his office in France, where he lives. During our conversation, which has been edited for length and clarity, we discussed what the Harper’s letter aimed to accomplish, whether cancel culture has always existed in various forms, and his concerns about Black Lives Matter and the media’s focus on covid-19 mortality rates among people of color.
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What was the genesis of the letter?
It’s no secret. No one is trying to be evasive, but it came out of conversations that the five of us—[the Atlantic staff writer and former New Yorker staff writer] George Packer, myself, [the Columbia professor of humanities] Mark Lilla, [the journalist] Robert F. Worth, and [the historian and professor of journalism] David Greenberg—started on an e-mail chain five or six weeks ago, talking about something that I’ve been talking about with some of them for years. A mood or climate seems to have set in, especially in the past almost four years, with the intensity that Trump brings to every topic, and social media—the growth of the importance of social media can’t be taken away from anything we’re talking about. I remember I was on Facebook and other things more, but Twitter has become all-consuming, especially if you work in the media or in academia, and so it feels like Twitter has taken on this invisible, impersonal force that works through people but no one in particular, that sweeps through and enacts public humiliation and punishment, and has become another figure in all of our lives, like the spectre of Trump hanging over us.
At some point, we decided to see if we could draft an open letter. We really didn’t even know if anybody would pay attention. The five of us started talking about who we might be able to reach out to and see if they might sign it. We went through multiple drafts on our own, and then about a month ago, we started sending it out to other people, and we got yeses and nos, and some of the people that said yes and some of the people that said no had really smart responses, with incredible feedback. We then came back and incorporated it, so like twenty people contributed writing to it.
Did you do more of the writing than anyone else?
No, I wouldn’t say that, even. I contributed in an early draft. I was very involved, and then it was a real collective. This is a document that doesn’t have an author, but it has the hands of over twenty people, and especially the hands of five people.
What did you say when you reached out to people?
You need to understand that this is something that we didn’t realize we would get anybody interested in. Some of the people that we knew the best said that they were uncomfortable or afraid of the backlash or couldn’t get involved, and some of the people we didn’t know very well stepped in, so we didn’t have a way of gauging. Everybody knew some names and began contacting them on their own, with their own language. Sometimes I was texting people three lines. Sometimes David was writing beautiful long letters full of tons of evidence of why the people might want to sign. Nobody that any of us contacted was, like, “Let me see who else is signing, and then I’ll get back to you.” Not a single person. I don’t think any of us have ever done this before, so it didn’t even occur to us that that could be a critique down the road.
How important was racial or gender or ideological diversity, especially getting people on the left? I know you have previously said that the letter started out more focussed on the sins of the left.
There was always disagreement. There was never one way that the letter was conceived. There was always some feeling that Trump should be more important and some feeling that in a short letter you have to focus on the kind of culture that’s coming in our own industry, which Trump doesn’t actually fully control. Then there was a feeling, after talking to more and more people that we respected, that we really do have to acknowledge the fact that nothing exists in a vacuum outside of Trump.
You said, “The critique is against censoriousness and so after realizing that the letter would be incomplete by solely focusing on the left, we felt it was necessary to be absolutely clear that Trump is the canceller-in-chief.”
Right, exactly. We all talked for quite a while about how we can’t really think of someone who has been more cancelled in American culture recently than Colin Kaepernick. We were talking about the Black reporter in Pittsburgh who was unable to cover the protests because of a tweet. We are against Twitter being involved in your office decisions and your H.R. department. Do you see what I’m saying? It was interpreted in a different way. It was a constant conversation of “Let’s always be thinking of ways that we can make this as ideologically diverse as possible,” and, also, we know from our own lives that you can’t predict how people think based on their color category, religion, or gender identity, or any of that.
You mentioned ideological diversity and the importance of it. As far I could tell, there were no open Trump supporters who signed the letter. Did you feel that it was important to not have signers beyond a certain level of conservatism in part because then critics could say you don’t really care about liberalism? Trump has the support of more than forty per cent of the country, so aren’t we all drawing our own lines somewhere about ideological diversity?
There was a lot of discussion of that. It was not something that we didn’t know would be a point of contention, but we also basically made the decision that we have to be as idealistic as possible within the bounds of understanding that we have to be pragmatic too, and rhetorically effective. You simply cannot have a document that was as successful as ours, I believe, at this moment, with throwing every single viewpoint in. Even one person who I reached out to, who isn’t, I don’t think, a Trump supporter, said, “No, I won’t sign this because I don’t believe that Trump is the greatest threat in the nation.” We were kind of skeptical that you could have a defense of liberal values, a serious defense of liberal values, with someone who was really a diehard Trump supporter, too. We also felt that if you got somebody who was, you might very well lose some other people that you need to make this a rhetorically effective document.
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I asked the question in a bad way. Even if someone didn’t violate their employment contract, if someone was going on a Web site and saying, as Blake Neff did, some awful racist stuff, which I don’t even feel comfortable reading, or got fired like Nick Cannon did, for anti-Semitism, by Viacom—is that cancel culture?
We have to have some agreed-upon standards. Part of what the problem is in this debate is deciding how we’re changing our standards right now. I understand this is not a science, but if there’s a punitive aspect to the collective response to something you do and it’s around a not-yet-solidified norm, that seems to me to be very different than to transgressing what seems to be a commonly understood norm. I know that you can say that there’s lots of difficulty in understanding, but you know that there actually is a difference.
Neff, it’s true, violated what I think a lot of us would agree as norms by using the N-word and saying a bunch of awful things. At the same time, he works for a television show that is able to broadcast these things every night, which the President watches and tweets about. Nick Cannon, who circulated anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, had prominent athletes speak up for him, before they recanted. I think some people would see these things as cancel culture. They would say people are overly sensitive.
You’re looking at something that is new, and, when there’s enough of a quantitative difference, you have a qualitative difference. This is something that has been with us—an impulse to punish and to single out and to scapegoat and to ostracize and stigmatize, that’s not new. But when you have a quantitative difference that technology affords—and I don’t mean to keep coming back to technology, but it’s inextricable from the experience now.
This letter was an attempt to open a conversation, to start thinking seriously about something that many people have noticed is going on. You don’t get an international conversation with a three-paragraph document like this if it doesn’t touch on something that many people understand is going on. This letter has been reprinted in France, Germany, the Netherlands, Japan. I’m getting interview requests from Chile. It was printed in Mexico. There were three articles at least in the Guardian about it in the U.K. This is something.
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I know there was a funny thing that went around Twitter about you kicking someone out of your house, or someone “self-ejecting” from your house, for saying something not nice about Bari Weiss. Do you want to just, for the record, tell people what happened?
That got more attention than I can believe. Can I just say something that might not completely satisfy you? I really can’t comment on that for the sanctity of my own household sanity.
Post by: Tripon on July 23, 2020, 04:58:08 PM
Post by: Transhuman on July 23, 2020, 05:00:32 PM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1285774083838410754
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1285772017871065088
lol.. their front page looks like an Ebay ad.
https://youtu.be/1QvNZVbPzBo
Post by: shosta on July 23, 2020, 05:06:32 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 23, 2020, 06:36:55 PM
All his latest tweets mentioned The Frankfurt School Of Cultural Marxist Economic Theories.
:lol
Post by: Tripon on July 23, 2020, 06:44:49 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 23, 2020, 07:02:10 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 23, 2020, 07:29:08 PM
Who's paying for the Daily Wire now that Ben Shapiro resigned?
The Frankfurt School Of Cultural Marxist Economic Theories
Post by: Oblivion on July 23, 2020, 07:39:02 PM
https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/thomas-chatterton-williams-on-race-identity-and-cancel-culture
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But it also seems to me an idea that has a racially charged history to it, and that we should want to be careful when people say things like that. Maybe that’s where we disagree.
Here’s where I draw a line, and this is why it takes people to actually listen to arguments and not scan quotes for gotcha clickbait. I’m not saying you. I’m saying that people love the gotcha as a very good way to get likes and a good way to get the dopamine hits. I engage in it just like a lot of us, because we’re all incentivized to behave this way, and it’s worth something to resist. But, if you engage in a good-faith way, then I think you can actually have conversations about difficult subjects. What I’m saying is that we’re not reading each other in the way that’s conducive to everybody having the ability to encounter the other’s experience. We’re engaging each other in ways that contribute to the fortification of identity epistemology, and I think the thing that’s so sad about that is it limits the amount of conversation we could have. That is impoverishing if what you actually care about is knowledge and ideas and making a kind of multi-ethnic society work.
I guess my point would be that if a white person said that line, I’m not sure the appropriate response would be to sit and thoughtfully listen to them.
It really depends on what made a white person say that.
I can think of one thing that might.
What’s that?
I was kidding.
:neogaf
Post by: Mandark on July 23, 2020, 08:40:27 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 23, 2020, 08:56:19 PM
Post by: Mandark on July 23, 2020, 09:11:29 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 24, 2020, 03:06:29 AM
On the 19th : "I was watching a film in French when a man and a woman were discussing. And according to my black friends it's maybe not even a slur !"
On the 20th, on Carpe Donktum InfoWars show : "If you compare the background noise of that clip with the rest of the show, it's obvious it was spliced in. If I called him a slur then why did he kiss my ass for the next 45mn."
Quote from: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/19/us/politics/roger-stone-mo-kelly-slur.html
Mr. Stone cited the championing of the term by the sociologist and N.A.A.C.P. co-founder W.E.B. DuBois, and the continued use of the word by the United Negro College Fund.
Mr. DuBois died in 1963.
:cmonson
Yeah Carpe Donktum has a show on InfoWars in which he had D'Souza, Stone and Dave Rubin as guests.
Download and view numbers seem to point no one cares.
Post by: team filler on July 24, 2020, 04:58:35 PM
:rejoice
Post by: VomKriege on July 24, 2020, 05:59:22 PM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1286600842930540544
Post by: Mandark on July 24, 2020, 06:06:35 PM
Post by: shosta on July 24, 2020, 06:13:57 PM
Post by: Transhuman on July 24, 2020, 06:17:45 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 24, 2020, 06:24:11 PM
As much as I hate Rubin, having a mandatory course imposed on you that has nothing to do with your degree does seem wrong
you mean like....general education?
Post by: Mandark on July 24, 2020, 06:24:40 PM
As much as I hate Rubin, having a mandatory course imposed on you that has nothing to do with your degree does seem wrong
boy wait until you find out about all universities
Post by: shosta on July 24, 2020, 06:26:11 PM
As much as I hate Rubin, having a mandatory course imposed on you that has nothing to do with your degree does seem wrongsomething's wrong with this boy...
Post by: Tripon on July 24, 2020, 06:26:29 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 24, 2020, 06:30:21 PM
Believing that three credit hours of ethnic studies could completely change someone's worldview shows a really optimistic level of faith in the power of education.
i spent quite a few years (more than i should have, i'm somewhat ashamed to admit) in college, both community and university, both of which would count as among the most 'liberal' in the sea of socialism that is los angeles in the failed state of commiefornia. and yet, of all the dozens of classes i've taken throughout that time, nothing in school made me turn into a solid leftist more than me watching an evening of fox news. from the moment i heard sean hannity's smug, nasally voice, i realized these people are crazy garbage, and never looked back.
the idea that colleges turn people into leftist radicals is so fucking strange, just conceptually to me. especially the idea that they turn people into marxists. i wasn't an econ major, but i took a decent number of econ classes, and the amount of time they mentioned marx came out to be a grand total of ZERO. the most leftist thing we covered was keynesianism and that was like for two weeks at most.
Post by: Transhuman on July 24, 2020, 06:38:36 PM
As much as I hate Rubin, having a mandatory course imposed on you that has nothing to do with your degree does seem wrong
boy wait until you find out about all universities
I went to university for an IT degree and one of the mandatory prequisite courses may as well have been called "How to use Microsoft Word"
:rage
something's wrong with this boy...
Get a life, kid
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 24, 2020, 06:38:53 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 24, 2020, 06:39:41 PM
As much as I hate Rubin, having a mandatory course imposed on you that has nothing to do with your degree does seem wrong
Some degrees from some places stack a bunch of filler. Won't let people study just what they want and peace it a year early to extract another organ worth of $$$. It is nicer to have a handful of options of complete free choice from whatever subject/department.
Sticking another checklist course on top isn't brainwashing anyone, the I'm-only-here-because-I've-no-choice courses won't do a thing.
Post by: Transhuman on July 24, 2020, 06:43:52 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 24, 2020, 06:45:33 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 24, 2020, 06:45:37 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 24, 2020, 06:46:21 PM
Also, I'm pretty sure it's a way for the universities to get a more uniform distribution of student counts in the first-year courses than something motivated out of social good or philosophy of education.
It was always about the benjis ($)
Post by: Mandark on July 24, 2020, 06:47:56 PM
the idea that colleges turn people into leftist radicals is so fucking strange, just conceptually to me. especially the idea that they turn people into marxists. i wasn't an econ major, but i took a decent number of econ classes, and the amount of time they mentioned marx came out to be a grand total of ZERO. the most leftist thing we covered was keynesianism and that was like for two weeks at most.
Right, Marx isn't even a footnote.
My experience with undergrad econ was that whatever the class is, 80% of it is just solving optimization equations. Basically no history of econ, and a lot of ideology passed off as math (which good teachers will point out, but still).
Post by: Oblivion on July 24, 2020, 06:48:15 PM
Also, I'm pretty sure it's a way for the universities to get a more uniform distribution of student counts in the first-year courses than something motivated out of social good or philosophy of education.
can't they just do that by counting the people they admitted? i don't think universities allow you to miss the first semester once you've been accepted.
Post by: shosta on July 24, 2020, 06:49:24 PM
Yeah i'm not saying it's brainwashing, Rubin is a moron, but it's still a dumb idea to jam dumb prerequisites, especially non-applicable ones. It'd be a different matter if it was just for the students doing humanities degrees.the point of general education is to produce well rounded members of society
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 24, 2020, 06:50:02 PM
the idea that colleges turn people into leftist radicals is so fucking strange, just conceptually to me. especially the idea that they turn people into marxists. i wasn't an econ major, but i took a decent number of econ classes, and the amount of time they mentioned marx came out to be a grand total of ZERO. the most leftist thing we covered was keynesianism and that was like for two weeks at most.
Right, Marx isn't even a footnote.
My experience with undergrad econ was that whatever the class is, 80% of it is just solving optimization equations. Basically no history of econ, and a lot of ideology passed off as math (which good teachers will point out, but still).
guns and butter
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 24, 2020, 06:50:52 PM
Also, I'm pretty sure it's a way for the universities to get a more uniform distribution of student counts in the first-year courses than something motivated out of social good or philosophy of education.
can't they just do that by counting the people they admitted? i don't think universities allow you to miss the first semester once you've been accepted.
No I'm saying it's so that you don't have 500 people in a first year CS class but only 12 in a genders study class.
Post by: BIONIC on July 24, 2020, 06:50:59 PM
Yeah i'm not saying it's brainwashing, Rubin is a moron, but it's still a dumb idea to jam dumb prerequisites, especially non-applicable ones. It'd be a different matter if it was just for the students doing humanities degrees.the point of general education is to produce well rounded members of society
That’s right. Just look at Glen.
Post by: Oblivion on July 24, 2020, 06:52:00 PM
the idea that colleges turn people into leftist radicals is so fucking strange, just conceptually to me. especially the idea that they turn people into marxists. i wasn't an econ major, but i took a decent number of econ classes, and the amount of time they mentioned marx came out to be a grand total of ZERO. the most leftist thing we covered was keynesianism and that was like for two weeks at most.
Right, Marx isn't even a footnote.
My experience with undergrad econ was that whatever the class is, 80% of it is just solving optimization equations. Basically no history of econ, and a lot of ideology passed off as math (which good teachers will point out, but still).
yeah, that was pretty much the same in my case, to the professors' credit. i didn't walk away from those classes thinking there was much bias there, but regardless, we learned way more about reagonomics/SSE than we ever did das kapital.
Post by: shosta on July 24, 2020, 06:55:18 PM
Right, Marx isn't even a footnote.- finding out John Hicks wrote Keynes and the Classics before reading the General Theory
My experience with undergrad econ was that whatever the class is, 80% of it is just solving optimization equations. Basically no history of econ, and a lot of ideology passed off as math (which good teachers will point out, but still).
- finding out Hicks eventually said IS-LM was just an academic toy and worthless for understanding short term dynamics related to liquidity and interest
- finding out that measuring the contributions of "factors of production" is tautological and Samuelson didn't think it was worth doing
- finding out Solow said that DSGM models have never produced a useful result
- finding out that Oskar Lange won the socialist calculation debate by pointing out pricing is algorithmic
a completely degenerate discipline :mjcry
Post by: Transhuman on July 24, 2020, 07:00:13 PM
Yeah i'm not saying it's brainwashing, Rubin is a moron, but it's still a dumb idea to jam dumb prerequisites, especially non-applicable ones. It'd be a different matter if it was just for the students doing humanities degrees.the point of general education is to produce well rounded members of society
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“It will empower our students to meet this moment in our nation’s history, giving them the knowledge, broad perspectives and skills needed to solve society’s most pressing problems. And it will further strengthen the value of a CSU degree,” said CSU Chancellor Timothy White in a statement.
I think it does provide a more rounded education, but empowers students? It'd be empowering if they could choose.
Post by: curly on July 24, 2020, 07:00:14 PM
Right, Marx isn't even a footnote.- finding out John Hicks wrote Keynes and the Classics before reading the General Theory
My experience with undergrad econ was that whatever the class is, 80% of it is just solving optimization equations. Basically no history of econ, and a lot of ideology passed off as math (which good teachers will point out, but still).
- finding out Hicks eventually said IS-LM was just an academic toy and worthless for understanding short term dynamics related to liquidity and interest
- finding out that measuring the contributions of "factors of production" is tautological and Samuelson didn't think it was worth doing
- finding out Solow said that DSGM models have never produced a useful result
- finding out that Oskar Lange won the socialist calculation debate by pointing out pricing is algorithmic
a completely degenerate discipline :mjcry
think how much better off you would be if you had spent the time you wasted reading that shite doing something worthwhile like watching Naruto
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 24, 2020, 07:03:37 PM
Yeah i'm not saying it's brainwashing, Rubin is a moron, but it's still a dumb idea to jam dumb prerequisites, especially non-applicable ones. It'd be a different matter if it was just for the students doing humanities degrees.the point of general education is to produce well rounded members of society
:lol
Post by: Mandark on July 24, 2020, 07:04:17 PM
I think a lot of how econ's taught can be chalked up to a desire to be treated like a STEM discipline and not lumped in with the other "soft" sciences.
Post by: curly on July 24, 2020, 07:06:46 PM
Post by: shosta on July 24, 2020, 07:06:49 PM
Post by: Mandark on July 24, 2020, 07:11:43 PM
Post by: shosta on July 24, 2020, 07:13:48 PM
Post by: Mandark on July 24, 2020, 07:17:56 PM
shosta getting my feedback for his posts is like training in triple gravity
when he's editing current affairs his power level will be off the charts
that first wank dad thread was like an 80's training montage for your brain
Post by: VomKriege on July 24, 2020, 07:18:43 PM
Is it an emergency broadcast from your hunting lodge or something ?
Also :comeon you accused Obama of being a radical Soros puppet working to brew a leftist insurrection in the US breh. You're still saying they're DISMANTLING THE
https://twitter.com/glennbeck/status/1286764677440118785
https://twitter.com/glennbeck/status/1286088640008003591
https://www.mediamatters.org/glenn-beck/beck-connects-obama-soros-violent-revolution-coming-our-shores (https://www.mediamatters.org/glenn-beck/beck-connects-obama-soros-violent-revolution-coming-our-shores)
Post by: shosta on July 24, 2020, 07:20:23 PM
that first wank dad thread was like an 80's training montage for your brainthe principal reason I'm back in school is so you'll stop calling me autodidactic as a subtle insult
Post by: Mandark on July 24, 2020, 07:20:40 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 24, 2020, 07:21:02 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EO7m0vlU8AAdWV-.jpg)
Guess he wasn't all that sorry after all!
Post by: D3RANG3D on July 24, 2020, 07:24:02 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 24, 2020, 07:24:21 PM
Concern trolling ?
/
:isthis
Post by: VomKriege on July 24, 2020, 07:30:22 PM
Do "Make America Great Again" next !
Post by: Oblivion on July 24, 2020, 07:33:38 PM
(https://cdn1.thr.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/768x433/2016/12/bee_beck.jpg)
Post by: Oblivion on July 24, 2020, 07:55:38 PM
https://twitter.com/nberlat/status/1286506318321332224
part 2:
https://twitter.com/nberlat/status/1286672104398770178
(god bless his soul :ussrcry )
Post by: Kara on July 24, 2020, 08:03:13 PM
Post by: Mandark on July 24, 2020, 08:04:27 PM
Post by: Tripon on July 24, 2020, 08:34:12 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 24, 2020, 09:03:53 PM
Post by: team filler on July 24, 2020, 09:05:40 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 24, 2020, 09:14:55 PM
My favorite part of that episode was when Matty said that the dang news used to be about reporting what the dang news knew and letting the public decide what to do with it. If there's a hereafter I hope William Randolph Hearst had a good belly laugh at that.
*laughs in yellow journalism*
Post by: benjipwns on July 24, 2020, 10:18:23 PM
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Noah Berlatsky
330.8K Tweets
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he/him, bylines NBC Think, Atlantic, WaPo, Pitchfork, Guardian, Foreign Policyno thx
Post by: Kara on July 24, 2020, 11:41:51 PM
I started listening to Chapo mid 2018. Was their early run also just straight up grillism like it is now?
Nah, they got bodied pretty hard by the defeat of reluctant social fascism by a clearly unwell segregationist who is running back the Democratic Party's 2018 Leon Blum campaign while the planet circles the drain.
Post by: Transhuman on July 25, 2020, 12:08:41 AM
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Noah Berlatsky edits the online comics-and-culture website The Hooded Utilitarian and is the author of the book Wonder Woman: Bondage and Feminism in the Marston/Peter Comics, 1941-48.
Post by: Oblivion on July 25, 2020, 07:28:08 PM
Post by: team filler on July 26, 2020, 02:26:04 AM
:shaq
Post by: VomKriege on July 26, 2020, 03:54:17 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 26, 2020, 06:45:55 PM
:juicy
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 26, 2020, 06:48:43 PM
Post by: Tripon on July 26, 2020, 07:35:55 PM
He mad
Post by: VomKriege on July 27, 2020, 02:48:41 AM
Thanks Dave.
Post by: BIONIC on July 27, 2020, 02:58:57 AM
Post by: benjipwns on July 27, 2020, 03:13:25 AM
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If the Saving American History Act of 2020 becomes law, however, school districts using the 1619 Project curriculum could face financial consequences.
Cotton’s legislation labels the project “a distortion of American history.”
“The 1619 Project is left-wing propaganda. It’s revisionist history at its worst,” he said in an interview Friday.
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If Cotton’s legislation passes, school districts that embrace the curriculum would no longer qualify for federal professional development funds, money that is intended to improve teacher quality.
Federal funding would also be lowered slightly to reflect any “cost associated with teaching the 1619 Project, including in planning time and teaching time.”
Funds tied to low-income or special-needs students would not be affected.
The secretaries of Education, Agriculture and Health and Human Services would create “prorated formulas” to determine the size of the reduction in federal money for schools adopting the curriculum.
“It won’t be much money,” Cotton said. “But even a penny is too much to go to the 1619 Project in our public schools. The New York Times should not be teaching American history to our kids.”
Capitol Hill isn’t the place where curriculum decisions are typically made, Cotton acknowledged.
If educators want to use the materials, they’ll still be free to do so, he said.
“Curriculum is a matter for local decisions and if local left-wing school boards want to fill their children’s heads with anti-American rot, that’s their regrettable choice. But they ought not to benefit from federal tax dollars to teach America’s children to hate America,” he said.
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Post by: Kara on July 27, 2020, 03:24:10 AM
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The Democratic Party isn't even running a ringer against him this fall. :nothing
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Post by: VomKriege on July 27, 2020, 10:36:40 AM
POLL CHILDREN YOU COWARDS
Post by: shosta on July 27, 2020, 04:34:49 PM
Post by: shosta on July 27, 2020, 04:38:08 PM
POLL CHILDREN YOU COWARDSwhat's the deail with this guy... how does one man succeed in being so dumb
Post by: team filler on July 27, 2020, 04:44:17 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 27, 2020, 04:45:22 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1287824348460593154
Remember when people thought Elon Musk was gonna save the world? :neogaf
Post by: Tripon on July 27, 2020, 06:45:30 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 27, 2020, 06:52:11 PM
https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1287856764692713477
(https://i.imgur.com/2xKAkqL.jpg)
Post by: Oblivion on July 27, 2020, 08:47:09 PM
https://twitter.com/IanwalshDesign/status/1287853917645213696
Post by: EchoRin on July 28, 2020, 12:54:19 AM
This is the perfect image. Masterpiece of shit.
Post by: Oblivion on July 28, 2020, 01:07:38 AM
look at that snowflake :neogaf
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 28, 2020, 01:18:54 AM
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1287945968743321600
Post by: benjipwns on July 28, 2020, 01:24:08 AM
time to doxxx all these people
Post by: Nintex on July 28, 2020, 04:30:52 AM
:mynicca
Post by: VomKriege on July 28, 2020, 04:50:02 AM
To even entertain the idea it's 3D chess is buffoonish. Weird trolls perhaps at best... But he named his child like a prepackaged Gamer PC Setup, it's probably all earnest.
Post by: VomKriege on July 28, 2020, 05:00:11 AM
POLL CHILDREN YOU COWARDSwhat's the deail with this guy... how does one man succeed in being so dumb
"Uncut Trump : This is how I win".
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1288010297844944896
:science
Post by: VomKriege on July 28, 2020, 06:33:30 AM
:juicy
https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1287832326282461184
Post by: Mandark on July 28, 2020, 09:07:10 AM
You know Musk was a stunted teen for not getting those big brain takes out of his system earlier.
To even entertain the idea it's 3D chess is buffoonish. Weird trolls perhaps at best... But he named his child like a prepackaged Gamer PC Setup, it's probably all earnest.
the tweet in question's obv facetious
Post by: VomKriege on July 28, 2020, 09:29:25 AM
Does it ?
https://twitter.com/hollywdharriet/status/1287924953644331008
:cac
Post by: Tripon on July 28, 2020, 09:46:00 AM
https://twitter.com/GrrrGraphics/status/1287795419687186438
Does it ?
https://twitter.com/hollywdharriet/status/1287924953644331008
:cac
What's the conspiracy? De Blasio ran Hillary's NY Senate campaign.
Post by: VomKriege on July 28, 2020, 09:57:01 AM
Post by: Tripon on July 28, 2020, 11:47:35 AM
Is the IDW dead? :doge
Post by: VomKriege on July 28, 2020, 11:53:21 AM
Post by: Brehvolution on July 28, 2020, 02:43:10 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1287824348460593154
https://twitter.com/IanwalshDesign/status/1287853917645213696
https://twitter.com/accidental_left/status/1287844611516502018
Post by: Oblivion on July 28, 2020, 02:47:55 PM
Classical Liberal mad about someone moving somewhere. :derp
technically he's mad at rogan for betraying him :neogaf
Post by: Kara on July 28, 2020, 04:47:33 PM
Classical Liberal mad about someone moving somewhere. :derp
(https://i.imgur.com/KSpI8y8.png)
Post by: Mandark on July 28, 2020, 04:50:30 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 28, 2020, 05:03:37 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 28, 2020, 05:31:00 PM
https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1285968187994124288
If we're reposting things :
https://youtu.be/aYotqgekKtU
Dave Rubin 👏is 👏 a 👏 moron.
Post by: shosta on July 28, 2020, 08:08:03 PM
Post by: naff on July 28, 2020, 08:36:40 PM
Post by: Mandark on July 28, 2020, 08:38:32 PM
tucker carlson quadrupling down on hydroxychloroquine doctors :heh
remember when tucker was the one who convinced trump to take the virus seriously?
Post by: shosta on July 28, 2020, 08:41:13 PM
remember when tucker was the one who convinced trump to take the virus seriously?I remember that more as him convincing trump to take a chinese communist party virus seriously
but anyway Tucker's always been all in on hydroxyq... dude had more fake doctors on than Sean Hannity and Jeanine combined
Post by: Mandark on July 28, 2020, 08:43:40 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 28, 2020, 08:50:03 PM
tucker carlson quadrupling down on hydroxychloroquine doctors :heh
AFAIK, most current studies internationally (and there's a lot) so far were inconclusive or found it ineffectual. It's certainly not the silver bullet treatment it was hoped to be by its proponents.
In a way, it's the second best outcome for Trump propagandists because they'll continue to pretend it is effective without too much consequences. It's not a dangerous enough medication that too much people should die or be visibly crippled even if they self-medicate without any sort of semi-competent supervision.
Post by: VomKriege on July 28, 2020, 09:01:28 PM
Except the trials were cut short because people were dying and getting new heart issues. At best it's highly unethical for doctors to prescribe a medicine for COVID that the FDA said is not safe to take for COVID.
Tucker is not really in that whole "ethical" business. :trumps
Post by: naff on July 28, 2020, 10:08:30 PM
tucker carlson quadrupling down on hydroxychloroquine doctors :heh
AFAIK, most current studies internationally (and there's a lot) so far were inconclusive or found it ineffectual. It's certainly not the silver bullet treatment it was hoped to be by its proponents.
In a way, it's the second best outcome for Trump propagandists because they'll continue to pretend it is effective without too much consequences. It's not a dangerous enough medication that too much people should die or be visibly crippled even if they self-medicate without any sort of semi-competent supervision.
Henry Fords study based on observational data that presents a correlation with covid recovery and hydroxychloroquine from their own hospitals is terribly biased. Really obviously bad method. It has a huge altmetric score (viral af) but basically no legitimate peer reviews, yet it's been cherry picked and touted by the right wing as evidence of the FDA crushing a "cheap, effective cure" yet the FDA hasn't based decisions on observational studies, especially not ones that shit for a long time. Only properly randomised, controlled studies cut it and 3 of those have so far indicated no correlation with Hydroxychloroquine influencing recovery.
Post by: naff on July 28, 2020, 10:10:54 PM
Post by: Oblivion on July 28, 2020, 10:13:21 PM
https://twitter.com/L0G1c9UY/status/1288290084366802945
he's so transparent it hurts
Post by: Oblivion on July 29, 2020, 01:18:33 AM
lots of great rube content today :neogaf
Post by: Kara on July 29, 2020, 01:22:10 AM
https://twitter.com/generalityiii/status/1288166739654713351
Post by: VomKriege on July 29, 2020, 06:59:29 AM
:dobbs
Post by: VomKriege on July 29, 2020, 10:26:36 AM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1288461880932151296
I'm gonna venture it's only "banned" as a treatment for COVID.
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1288466284775178245
Also losing patience with Barr not indicting Dems, Google & pedos.
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1288469673915420677
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 29, 2020, 11:10:47 AM
Post by: VomKriege on July 29, 2020, 01:08:26 PM
:science
Post by: Kara on July 29, 2020, 01:27:55 PM
Post by: shosta on July 29, 2020, 01:45:51 PM
Poor Dave is such a lost soul, it is sad to see him flail around trying to be accepted by other wank dads.He is genuinely the most pathetic wank dad. At least wank dadism generally has enough content to be wrong... Rubin's head is so empty that he can't even be wrong
Post by: EightBitNate on July 29, 2020, 01:51:43 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 29, 2020, 02:11:18 PM
Otherwise maybe more conspi- than wank-dad but Alex Jones went full smear on the armed BLM protestor gunned down in Austin, calling him a creep (without elaborating why), claiming stills showed he pointed his gun (no such image exist, every video and photo evidence has him rifle pointed down) and despite witness and the police chief being clear the driver who shoot him initiated the incident at all points. I don't think he said so explicitly (Ted Nugent he has on whined that some BLM protestors were equipped and armed tho :doge) but he's close to just renege on years of so-called passionate second amendment after defending the deployment of federal goons last week.
Not exactly a shock but all notable.
Post by: Brehvolution on July 29, 2020, 02:36:31 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 29, 2020, 02:56:00 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 29, 2020, 03:43:19 PM
Post by: El Babua on July 29, 2020, 03:46:56 PM
Post by: curly on July 29, 2020, 04:06:03 PM
:lol
https://twitter.com/generalityiii/status/128816673965471335
https://twitter.com/shujaxhaider/status/1288201255781838850
:thinking
Learning a lot here
Post by: Mandark on July 29, 2020, 04:08:32 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 29, 2020, 04:35:33 PM
conceptual james
I like the concept of james, but the implementation leaves something to be desired.
Post by: Oblivion on July 29, 2020, 09:55:24 PM
Post by: EchoRin on July 30, 2020, 01:26:37 AM
https://youtu.be/R38S9Ht0Gc8
edit: and why does the black and white image look like Jordan Peterson? :derp
Post by: Transhuman on July 30, 2020, 02:23:11 AM
Post by: Kara on July 30, 2020, 03:10:55 AM
Let me just say what everyone is thinking: Joe Rogan is the new Christopher Hitchens.
إن شاء الله 🙏
https://twitter.com/Hezbolsonaro/status/1287116371826884608
Post by: Transhuman on July 30, 2020, 03:28:31 AM
Post by: VomKriege on July 30, 2020, 07:25:47 AM
https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1288138580917923840
:maduro
Post by: VomKriege on July 30, 2020, 08:23:52 AM
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My favorite hot take from the live chatQuoteShe is a grown woman and yet she wears makeup, her face is a literal lie, why should we listen to anything she says?
https://www.reddit.com/r/daverubin/comments/ce49wg/comment/eu0u0i8 (https://www.reddit.com/r/daverubin/comments/ce49wg/comment/eu0u0i8)
:rethread
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 30, 2020, 09:05:37 AM
Post by: VomKriege on July 30, 2020, 11:20:36 AM
And apparently shat in them publicly the minute he wasn't there anymore, according to Kasparian, after being all smiles while there (though definitely ambitious and driven by the search of fame and fortune).
Quote from: https://www.reddit.com/r/daverubin/comments/i0hqe8/comment/fzpj5jx
Can definitely imagine Rubin's next book Radicalised: How I, an Intellectual, got Sucked in to the Right Wing which presumably neither of the Don't Burn this Book readers will buy
Post by: VomKriege on July 30, 2020, 05:10:52 PM
:corona_rodney
That was only 20 days ago...
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1281570268910104576
Post by: team filler on July 31, 2020, 01:04:52 AM
:oreilly
Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2020, 01:07:51 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EeLbg7dWsAAIYSX.jpg)
Post by: shosta on July 31, 2020, 01:11:02 AM
Post by: VomKriege on July 31, 2020, 01:20:14 AM
Curious to see if Alex Jones, who loves the Bundy, is going to just ignore it or unleash on the guy.
Post by: Oblivion on July 31, 2020, 06:32:47 AM
https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1289061506148179968 (https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1289061506148179968)
Post by: VomKriege on July 31, 2020, 06:40:44 AM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1289040053914808323
Post by: Oblivion on July 31, 2020, 11:27:02 AM
:smug
Post by: Kara on July 31, 2020, 11:47:23 AM
:smug
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1289040053914808323
If you backed into power after the 1848 conservative order self-immolated for no real reason in a World War you wouldn't trouble yourself with new horizons in theory and praxis either tbh.
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 31, 2020, 12:16:02 PM
Oh ya, I remember that too because I also live in Didn't Happen Land.
Post by: VomKriege on July 31, 2020, 12:33:26 PM
:shaking
Post by: Oblivion on July 31, 2020, 12:33:54 PM
Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2020, 12:47:00 PM
i'll admit, my memory's a bit hazy cause i didn't pay that much attention back in those days to politics, but did people make a big stink out of tebow doing that?
Absolutely not!
He got multiple chances in the NFL, a broadcast job, a vanity minor league baseball career, etc. He's been treated like the popular celebrity he is rather than a pariah.
Post by: TakingBackSunday on July 31, 2020, 01:44:37 PM
Post by: Tripon on July 31, 2020, 01:47:36 PM
Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2020, 05:08:34 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 31, 2020, 05:11:42 PM
Post by: Kara on July 31, 2020, 05:54:12 PM
Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2020, 06:03:04 PM
Post by: team filler on July 31, 2020, 06:07:36 PM
Post by: Kara on July 31, 2020, 06:15:25 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 31, 2020, 06:23:42 PM
Quote from: paraphrasing but fairly close
"I cannot stop to think that if I lived in a completely white society, we wouldn't hear about the evils of whitey and we could actually discuss the ideas"
:neogaf
Post by: Mandark on July 31, 2020, 06:26:35 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 31, 2020, 06:42:55 PM
Morning wham !
Post by: Tripon on July 31, 2020, 06:44:09 PM
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Post by: team filler on July 31, 2020, 07:06:12 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 31, 2020, 07:15:45 PM
I don't get Dave Rubin's turn or evolution of whatever you want to call it. Dude knows he's a grifter. But being another reactionary conservative voice is a really crowded field.
I think the slope is more slippery than it appears.
You see it with Alex Jones who cannot leave the Trump train and has been forced to strip down all the sugarcoating and libertarian pretense to his core racism and bigotry. It's more truthful, certainly, but obviously a less comfortable position than the "apolitical, both sides, impartial" perch that Jones, and on another manner Rubin, acted like they were on. They very deliberately cultivated a certain audience (+ spicy relationships) and are now forced to follow it in lockstep as it gravitates to the much larger star of Trump.
I'm sure Rubin and a few others will wash their hands of the whole thing and pivot at the 25th hour if Trump loses, but it's too early to say if it's "safe" to do so.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on July 31, 2020, 07:59:05 PM
https://grrrgraphics.com/herman-cain-rip
Post by: VomKriege on August 01, 2020, 08:39:45 AM
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The soul of liberalism, the esteemed institutions of the New York Times and Yale University are lost—forever. Their essence has been drained and replaced with Leftism. As David Burge elegantly puts it, our institutions have been killed, gutted, and will now be worn as a carcass in a demand for respect. This all happened while liberals stood idly by, content to see folks like Rubin and Peterson eaten alive for moving away from the Left.
Eaten alive by... Positive media coverage. :ohyou
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While ranting about this topic—my primary writing process—I spoke with a friend in the academy. He mentioned that the dividing line isn’t between Left and Right. It’s between the Woke and the non-Woke. That’s correct, and it does—or should—transcend political parties.
Wasn't it Globalists Vs Anti-Globalists ? :confused
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And if you work in the media ecosystem under a banner that isn’t explicitly conservative, just try to walk into your office tomorrow and make the case that maybe you should run a truly conservative op-ed by a Republican Senator, even if it’s a viewpoint 58% of Americans agree with. Just see what happens.
:badass
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But a few brave souls have almost figured out that they need to switch teams or at least begin to befriend conservatives. Take J.K. Rowling, slowly getting red-pilled on trans issues.
:comeon
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Normally I would be gloating. But this is one of those rare times when I am not.
:engel
Post by: Mandark on August 01, 2020, 12:45:48 PM
Amazing chutzpah to commission that piece from someone who lost a spot at Harvard (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/6/17/18682101/kyle-kashuv-harvard-parkland) for constantly using the n word.
Post by: VomKriege on August 01, 2020, 12:53:21 PM
"ringing the alarms against Woke intolerance for years as conservatives were exiled from elite institutions"
Amazing chutzpah to commission that piece from someone who lost a spot at Harvard (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/6/17/18682101/kyle-kashuv-harvard-parkland) for constantly using the n word.
Also the top headline on the site was "CANCEL THE NYT" which is an essay linked elsewhere. I'm sure it's a cheeky title but you know.
And a guy constantly gloating by his own admission really elicits respect and sympathy. :brain
Post by: VomKriege on August 01, 2020, 12:58:34 PM
Quote from: Vox article linked by Mandark
Loomer, Cernovich, and others like them see Kashuv as a sellout too cozy with the Republican establishment, and saw this as an opportunity to hurt him. Loomer even started a Change.org petition to get Harvard to rescind his admission.
Ah yes, woke leftists Ceviche and Looper. :cenk
Post by: Mandark on August 01, 2020, 01:01:50 PM
https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1050391663552671744
Post by: Kara on August 01, 2020, 01:53:47 PM
https://twitter.com/Yascha_Mounk/status/1289333770370203650
Post by: Mandark on August 01, 2020, 02:00:42 PM
If you're a professional writer and every day you're explaining how most of your audience has misinterpreted what you said, how long until you consider the possibility that you're not very good at your job?
Post by: Mandark on August 01, 2020, 02:17:26 PM
Post by: Nintex on August 01, 2020, 02:19:02 PM
:teehee
Post by: BIONIC on August 01, 2020, 02:22:18 PM
Post by: team filler on August 01, 2020, 10:33:13 PM
they took my likes :-\
Post by: Oblivion on August 02, 2020, 04:51:33 AM
https://twitter.com/maxwelltani/status/1289294644514181120
:rage :rage :rage
Post by: team filler on August 02, 2020, 01:01:55 PM
:rogan
Post by: Mandark on August 02, 2020, 01:32:31 PM
a new challenger has arrived
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 02, 2020, 02:10:37 PM
https://twitter.com/NeilClark66/status/1289818459262648320
brexiters ANNIHILATED
Post by: Tripon on August 02, 2020, 02:12:55 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 02, 2020, 02:15:21 PM
:hmm
Post by: Mandark on August 02, 2020, 02:16:50 PM
you can take that as either causation or as an indicator of similar underlying pathologies, but either way it seems relevant
Post by: team filler on August 02, 2020, 02:17:00 PM
https://twitter.com/sambo2690/status/1289816811903389696https://twitter.com/MarcRowe12/status/1289936815537795073
https://twitter.com/NeilClark66/status/1289818459262648320
brexiters ANNIHILATED
:maduro
Post by: Kara on August 02, 2020, 02:17:09 PM
If you're a professional writer and every day you're explaining how most of your audience has misinterpreted what you said, how long until you consider the possibility that you're not very good at your job?
When you believe you are a firebrand with controversial but true beliefs the fact that they are misunderstood just proves your point. That clique is as much of an echo chamber as any other they decry.
Post by: Mandark on August 02, 2020, 02:34:59 PM
The next layer is that they want all moral satisfaction of being a truth-telling iconoclast without any of the difficulty or discomfort that comes with the role. Everyone wants to be a heretic but nobody wants to be a heretic.
Post by: shosta on August 02, 2020, 02:48:33 PM
Post by: Tripon on August 02, 2020, 03:01:06 PM
https://twitter.com/lachlan/status/1283487080509775872
Oh.
Florida Congressional District #21
https://ballotpedia.org/Florida%27s_21st_Congressional_District
Post by: team filler on August 02, 2020, 05:25:23 PM
:stahp
Post by: VomKriege on August 02, 2020, 05:44:49 PM
:brain
Harking back to the classics :
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/784828630933368832
Post by: VomKriege on August 03, 2020, 04:09:13 AM
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 03, 2020, 09:14:20 AM
Post by: Rufus on August 03, 2020, 10:11:55 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 03, 2020, 11:47:37 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 03, 2020, 12:14:23 PM
Post by: BisMarckie on August 03, 2020, 12:27:33 PM
this is like when some tech bro (might have been elon musk even, i can't remember who it was) accidentally reinvented buses :lol
Imagine a bus, but instead of some overpaid muncipality worker, you recruit from the gig economy and the passenger can also rate their experience in an app. :aah
Post by: team filler on August 03, 2020, 12:43:57 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 03, 2020, 01:04:26 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VvIOD-B0NBo
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 03, 2020, 01:04:35 PM
Post by: team filler on August 03, 2020, 05:13:57 PM
:ohyeah
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 03, 2020, 05:36:54 PM
https://twitter.com/RobDownenChron/status/1290134409757130754
Season 2 of the righteous gemstones is looking pretty lit.
https://vimeo.com/444300274
Post by: VomKriege on August 03, 2020, 06:33:46 PM
I think he's as disingenuous and manic as Bill Mitchell but certainly not as vulgar. There's the same delusions of being a prophet with a supernatural ability to divine the zeitgeist. There's also the pretense of being a philosopher or a rhetorician plus a vast overestimation of his grasp of science than most of the IDW, but he's uniquely weird and cranky in his mad tangents.
All because he wrote a successful comic strip.
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1290274821503242240
In other news a lot of the usual suspects are saying the bodycam footage of G.Floyd's death changes everything and the media is ignoring it. Adams obliged in retweeting a handful of them because of course.
Post by: Oblivion on August 03, 2020, 07:48:07 PM
In other news a lot of the usual suspects are saying the bodycam footage of G.Floyd's death changes everything and the media is ignoring it. Adams obliged in retweeting a handful of them because of course.
i saw the video. so....how exactly are these idiots saying it exonerates chauvin?
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 03, 2020, 07:54:06 PM
how do teachers kill black people exactly? :doge
Slamming them to the ground and kneeling on their necks....oh wait, I'm thinking of cops.
Post by: Tripon on August 03, 2020, 07:57:23 PM
Post by: Oblivion on August 03, 2020, 08:12:49 PM
Post by: team filler on August 03, 2020, 08:37:59 PM
Post by: Mandark on August 03, 2020, 08:42:27 PM
There's the same delusions of being a prophet with a supernatural ability to divine the zeitgeist.
Adams went from "I'm not saying Trump is right on the substance, I'm just saying he's a master of techniques of rhetoric and persuasion" to "Trump is right, and the fact that most people disapprove of him proves the existence of a mass delusion."
Guess Trump forgot how to persuade people.
Post by: team filler on August 03, 2020, 08:48:45 PM
:maduro
Post by: VomKriege on August 04, 2020, 01:23:04 AM
how do teachers kill black people exactly? :doge
In other news a lot of the usual suspects are saying the bodycam footage of G.Floyd's death changes everything and the media is ignoring it. Adams obliged in retweeting a handful of them because of course.
i saw the video. so....how exactly are these idiots saying it exonerates chauvin?
It's the same shit as before ("he was high, he OD'ed actually, he was non compliant, the officers were patient..."). They seem to think that it proves there was no intent to murder and it's important somehow and not at all a strawman misrepresenting the grievances with police brutality.
Post by: team filler on August 04, 2020, 01:57:59 AM
:larry
Post by: Oblivion on August 04, 2020, 02:54:49 AM
Post by: Kara on August 04, 2020, 03:03:56 AM
https://twitter.com/classicallyabby/status/1289244598150156289
I'm not much of one to judge, of course. :dolezal
Post by: Mandark on August 04, 2020, 03:09:08 AM
ngl, i think i'd hate shapiro a whole lot less if he replaced talking with singing
amazed that shapiro's on video doing a showtune and it's not modern major-general
Post by: Transhuman on August 04, 2020, 05:19:12 AM
And his sister lol. #conservativeinfluencer Even though it's only conservatives, I feel sorry for the people getting grifted by these losers
Post by: VomKriege on August 04, 2020, 05:37:02 AM
Speaking of the Shapiro clan, this feels way more "letter of the law but not the spirit of the law" than eating quinoa during Passover.
https://twitter.com/classicallyabby/status/1289244598150156289
I'm not much of one to judge, of course. :dolezal
Dogma don't care about your facts.
Post by: Nintex on August 04, 2020, 05:40:08 AM
Post by: Transhuman on August 04, 2020, 06:01:58 AM
Post by: Kara on August 04, 2020, 11:46:21 AM
https://twitter.com/thomaschattwill/status/1290613631772758017
Post by: shosta on August 04, 2020, 11:48:19 AM
Post by: Brehvolution on August 04, 2020, 12:08:15 PM
Holy shit these people are embarassing. How do you guys handle watching this stuff? I can't imagine listening to Ben Shapiro for more than a few seconds at a time, let alone seeking it out.
And his sister lol. #conservativeinfluencer Even though it's only conservatives, I feel sorry for the people getting grifted by these losers
I never watch any of this shit. If it weren't for this thread, I wouldn't know who any of these morons are.
Post by: shosta on August 04, 2020, 12:18:25 PM
Post by: Propagandhim on August 04, 2020, 12:23:29 PM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1290435578782199812
I want this Floridian POS to get sick so bad. More than anyone on Earth.
Post by: shosta on August 04, 2020, 02:48:38 PM
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1290641124844085249
Mattyg is worried about America being at a disadvantage to China because it only has a third the population so he wrote a whole book on his solution: change the immigration system in America so that America would also have one billion people :dead :dead :dead
Post by: shosta on August 04, 2020, 02:51:22 PM
Post by: curly on August 04, 2020, 02:53:09 PM
:goty2
Post by: shosta on August 04, 2020, 02:54:19 PM
Post by: curly on August 04, 2020, 02:55:57 PM
Post by: Mandark on August 04, 2020, 03:01:39 PM
Post by: shosta on August 04, 2020, 03:01:50 PM
There are already a billion Americans :hmm
Post by: Kara on August 04, 2020, 03:03:00 PM
I almost exclusively wear Hawaiian shirts these days :doge
They say you should dress the part and you're already dressing for your posting to Latin America after completing your economics studies. :hmm
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 04, 2020, 03:04:49 PM
I almost exclusively wear Hawaiian shirts these days :doge
Wouldn't have expected you to be in with the Boogaloo Boys. :gurl
Post by: shosta on August 04, 2020, 03:05:45 PM
Post by: Mandark on August 04, 2020, 03:07:23 PM
(https://cdn.digg.com/images/4f2e692f97a543b0a5b92e16f791403f_fd726b7806ab4ab2a70da8519e600373_1_original.jpeg)
Post by: VomKriege on August 04, 2020, 03:13:31 PM
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1290643916828680192
:goty2
Sending my application to the CCP now.
Post by: Kara on August 04, 2020, 03:17:19 PM
Post by: Tripon on August 04, 2020, 03:19:19 PM
Post by: Mandark on August 04, 2020, 03:20:56 PM
fuck
Post by: Kara on August 04, 2020, 03:22:36 PM
I was going to make a snarky comment about Tri suddenly opposing immigration because of MattY's book but I thought that would be ungenerous.
fuck
Unearned Koch failson wealth robs society of yet one more thing. :usacry
Post by: shosta on August 04, 2020, 03:25:10 PM
We don't have enough housing for Americans right now. How are we supposed to find housing for 700 more Americans? And we're not even talking about Canada or Mexico, or the rest of North America.not trying to support Matt here but we could build as much housing as we want, it's just that any significant increase in the supply would lower the value of the property, which many americans have used as an vehicle for accumulation. law of value strikes again :goty2
Post by: Tripon on August 04, 2020, 03:27:03 PM
I was going to make a snarky comment about Tri suddenly opposing immigration because of MattY's book but I thought that would be ungenerous.
fuck
Hah. More of a rant on NIMBY housing regulation that fucks over the poor, middle class and younger generations of actually building roots.
Post by: Mandark on August 04, 2020, 03:30:18 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 04, 2020, 03:42:52 PM
Post by: shosta on August 04, 2020, 03:46:03 PM
Post by: team filler on August 04, 2020, 03:48:52 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 04, 2020, 03:50:33 PM
Post by: Mandark on August 04, 2020, 03:53:24 PM
I just want to reiterate how funny I think it is that Matt wrote a book about creating a billion Americans when there is already almost exactly that number of people on both American continents. Reality is truly funnier than fiction
why is that very funny
Post by: shosta on August 04, 2020, 03:56:42 PM
he meant whites :dogeHe wants more people to immigrate here, including Latin Americans! But if those people are already acceptable Americans why do they have to move? Just develop their countries and bring them into the fold.
But! There are already developed countries with people he would consider acceptable Americans. And if we accept that an alliance of countries of like-minded and similar-valued people is an acceptable alternative to baby-booming America, those countries are obvious candidates. So the question is: can we come up with an agglomerate of nations totaling a billion people that are unified in purpose and together have the strength to compete with China?
It already exists:
(https://i.imgur.com/3MOpssl.png)
Post by: Mandark on August 04, 2020, 03:59:05 PM
But if those people are already acceptable Americans why do they have to move?
you should ask the people who moved here why they did it instead of developing their own countries
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 04, 2020, 03:59:31 PM
Post by: shosta on August 04, 2020, 04:01:26 PM
you should ask the people who moved here why they did it instead of developing their own countriesI said WE should develop THEIR countries. Because everyone has the right to live in a first world country. By extension that means I support immigration, but it has nothing to do with boosting the power of a liberal-democratic superpower to protect the world from a scheming red menace.
Post by: Mandark on August 04, 2020, 04:03:52 PM
This has gotta be the clearest example of terminal lib brain in America. Even Trumpism is significantly more coherent and realistic.
you should ask the people who moved here why they did it instead of developing their own countriesI said WE should develop THEIR countries. Because everyone has the right to live in a first world country.
hm
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 04, 2020, 04:12:09 PM
Don't worry guys, those "Jerry Falwell on a yacht with his arm around a woman and his beer belly sticking out" weren't anything untoward, it was just a Trailer Park Boys cosplay party. :lol
Post by: curly on August 04, 2020, 04:27:53 PM
But if those people are already acceptable Americans why do they have to move?
you should ask the people who moved here why they did it instead of developing their own countries
Why do residents of the periphery want to come to the imperial core :thinking
Airbnb landlord Matthew Yglesias wants more densely packed (yet still affordable, this is Cincinnati) urban housing to be filled with brain drain aspirational middle class candidates from the semi-periphery / periphery...... This is definitely something a Type of Guy would come up with.
All to enhance American power in the struggle with China, don't forget about that
Post by: Mandark on August 04, 2020, 04:32:32 PM
Why do residents of the periphery want to come to the imperial core :thinking
and why would residents of the metropole want to keep them out?
Post by: curly on August 04, 2020, 04:34:48 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1251582381854724097/gGoQyHWb_400x400.jpg)
Post by: Kara on August 04, 2020, 04:40:29 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/5Xh2hQu.png)
Post by: Mandark on August 04, 2020, 04:42:55 PM
edit: actually what this convo is really missing is furloughed bore poster occam
Post by: shosta on August 04, 2020, 04:45:53 PM
hm
Since you're acting like a coward I don't know what you're trying to say. Then again, I'm not being clear either because I thought the premise of tripling America's population to increase its strength was prima facie ridiculous. Clearly though you think I'm being illiberal so I should just be explicit.
This is the premise of the book:
Quote
In geopolitical competition with China, the PRC's big advantage is that there are way more Chinese people than there are Americans so they can achieve economic parity and clout on the global stage at a much lower level of development. Easy argument.
The unstated premises are:
1) The "nation" is the correct scale when considering the global superpower conflict. We've lived in supranational arrangements since the end of World War II and for someone who talks a lot about foreign policy it seems weird to focus so much on the population of one particular country (even if it happens to be the hegemon). I already said it earlier: NATO is an almost unified free market liberal economy of many peers and accounts for a fifth of the economic activity on Earth. The reasons for American decline are peculiar to its economic and political structure... making more Americans won't solve it.
2) You can create a billion Americans mostly by moving people around. To support a tripling of the American way of life would probably require a tripling of the populations that we exploit, or it would entail keeping the immigrants wages low (probably not what Matt wants). Since a huge chunk of that is... in China... this would require a concomitant increase in China's population. You can play the supply chain shifting game if you want... I doubt that's covered in the book.
3) The immigration solution is possible. No nation has ever integrated that kind of foreign population that quickly. The reactionary backlash would be a few orders of magnitude worse than what you saw in 2016, and it would happen well before the completion of the demographic change. I'm not making a right-wing normative argument, I'm just telling you what I think about white Americans. As someone who doesn't like the new american nationalism I'm very inclined to avoid that kind of liberal project.
4) We should "beat" Chinese "imperialism". The US has been the single most predominant source of local destabilization for 70 years. There's a reason Chinese investment is vastly preferred in Africa over American investment. The percentage of American investment in extractive industries is triple that of Chinese investment, Chinese loans emphasize infrastructure development over foreign ownership of new businesses, etc. The other aspect of Chinese influence is the South China Sea which is a security risk for China. Foreign control over those waterways could cripple China in a conflict - securing it militarily is hardly some expansionist plot that leads to world domination. What exactly is the Chinese imperialism that I'm supposed to be afraid of and why is it worse than neoliberal imperialism?
Post by: Mandark on August 04, 2020, 04:48:35 PM
look I don't have a problem with immigrants, but...
Post by: shosta on August 04, 2020, 04:51:21 PM
Post by: Kara on August 04, 2020, 04:53:42 PM
*considers really getting this party started by posting some bernie quotes about open borders*
edit: actually what this convo is really missing is furloughed bore poster occam
Yeah, I don't want some Mitterrand goons to ice him while he's going Captain Planet in the Amazon. :-\
Anyway, should I expect this book to contemplate unresolved land issues with tribal nations? I'm sure there's plenty of land to accomplish both, I just wonder if the grand vision has space for old our bads.
Post by: shosta on August 04, 2020, 04:57:19 PM
(https://www.fodors.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/HERO_UltimateRome_Hero_shutterstock789412159.jpg)
Post by: curly on August 04, 2020, 04:59:50 PM
Post by: shosta on August 04, 2020, 05:01:12 PM
Post by: Mandark on August 04, 2020, 05:04:42 PM
Post by: team filler on August 04, 2020, 05:05:25 PM
Post by: curly on August 04, 2020, 05:08:05 PM
All to enhance American power in the struggle with China, don't forget about that
Hmmm..... So you're telling me that some guy who lives off a combination of landlording and fake page hits is worried about an economic conflict with a country who manages to keep some of the value in the production chain inside their borders, despite the majority of the surplus being realized inside the United States?
:thinking
Trump voting small businessmen extract surplus value like this, dipshit bloggers extract surplus value like this
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 04, 2020, 05:16:09 PM
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1290643916828680192
:goty2
:wut
Post by: shosta on August 04, 2020, 05:16:23 PM
you said we shouldn't let so many people in the country so I think you think that we shouldn't let so many people in the country
We should let a lot of people into this country! In fact, vastly more than we do already. But why do we need a billion people in the contiguous United States? How many economic migrants are depopulating perfectly good cities in other countries due to shambolic financial aftershocks or hostile international actions? Why quadruple the size of Topeka when Medellin would cost less money to fix? Why invest in America when places in India still have no plumbing? Why invest in America when the four famines (https://www.undispatch.com/four-famines-explained/) are entering their fourth year?
And why only accept middle class immigrants (toward whom our system is biased)? If I thought limiting immigration would prevent the brain drain of other nations then I would support that, too. If I thought green development in the US would strip Bolivia of its lithium after we stole their public mining rights I would oppose that, too. Why kill the world for America's glory?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 04, 2020, 05:21:26 PM
Holy fuckin shit
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1290641124844085249
Mattyg is worried about America being at a disadvantage to China because it only has a third the population so he wrote a whole book on his solution: change the immigration system in America so that America would also have one billion people :dead :dead :dead
Think Canada is trying to double or triple our pop by the end of the centery, a lot of which will be through immigration.
Post by: Mandark on August 04, 2020, 05:23:47 PM
We should let a lot of people into this country! In fact, vastly more than we do already.
you wrote that increasing immigration would necessitate increasing the exploited population of the global south and that it would engender a reactionary backlash from white Americans
do those facts only become true and/or salient at a certain numerical threshold?
Post by: Kara on August 04, 2020, 05:25:47 PM
Think Canada is trying to double or triple our pop by the end of the centery, a lot of which will be through immigration.
It might stop looking like 3 extractive industries standing on top of each other under a Ukrainian SS trenchcoat so as to resemble a person then. Godspeed, Klanada. :cancry
Post by: Oblivion on August 04, 2020, 05:28:38 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 04, 2020, 05:30:54 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 04, 2020, 05:30:59 PM
Think Canada is trying to double or triple our pop by the end of the centery, a lot of which will be through immigration.
It might stop looking like 3 extractive industries standing on top of each other under a Ukrainian SS trenchcoat so as to resemble a person then. Godspeed, Klanada. :cancry
Or it will just look like a taller person in a trench coat.
Post by: shosta on August 04, 2020, 05:31:38 PM
you wrote that increasing immigration would necessitate increasing the exploited population of the global south and that it would engender a reactionary backlash from white Americansyou listed two facts. the first is always true and always salient regarding the structural limits to america's prosperity. The second comes into play after a threshold rate but that threshold is probably much higher than the natural rate of "people moving simply because they want to" in a world where every country is prosperous.
do those facts only become true and/or salient at a certain numerical threshold?
You didn't really answer my most important question. I asked why we need a billion Americans. You said to ask the migrants why they moved here. That's not the same thing: I know why they want to be here, I want to know why you want them here. If it's out of the generosity of your heart then I'm simply saying that generosity is good but you can already spread your wealth to them in ways with greater marginal benefits.
Post by: VomKriege on August 04, 2020, 05:34:18 PM
Quote from: shosta
A LIMITED WORLD CANNOT SUPPORT UNLIMITED IMMIGRATION
:brain
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Yeah it's an absurd idea, on that scale.
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Post by: Kara on August 04, 2020, 05:44:59 PM
Post by: Mandark on August 04, 2020, 05:48:13 PM
los angeles tripled in population in a decade around the turn of the century
Post by: shosta on August 04, 2020, 05:48:43 PM
Post by: Kara on August 04, 2020, 05:51:48 PM
Was thinking something along the lines of X percent of global population migrating to a space within a discrete period of time.
Post by: VomKriege on August 04, 2020, 05:51:50 PM
Is there a per capita parallel? I was thinking that perhaps a calamity in human history produced something comparable in that sense.
Do you mean vast migration ? I guess it's possible there's something historically relevant but I doubt it was achieved with everything under control and no friction (which is apparently what the book speculates on).
Lebanon has 1,7m refugees for a 6m population, that's the first example I think of right now.
Edit : Mandark makes a good point.
Post by: VomKriege on August 04, 2020, 05:55:10 PM
Edit : Saint-Domingue / Haïti, of course, comes to mind. I didn't find a pre-slave trade population account but considering the population (500k~) is estimated to have been 90%~ slaves in 1790 and that French governors started shifting the colony to mass agriculture a century prior...
Post by: shosta on August 04, 2020, 06:11:28 PM
Post by: Kara on August 04, 2020, 06:12:22 PM
e: None of these are really what I was asking about, though VK is right that there is no parallel in terms of management.
Post by: Mandark on August 04, 2020, 06:16:57 PM
Native reaction to immigration isn't a central pillar of my argument anyway. Willingly to discard it
now we're talking
Post by: shosta on August 04, 2020, 06:18:54 PM
now we're talkingYou know what? Maybe I won't discard it.
Post by: shosta on August 04, 2020, 07:01:58 PM
:stahp
Post by: EchoRin on August 04, 2020, 08:43:46 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 05, 2020, 02:12:32 AM
https://twitter.com/MailOnline/status/1283317640124039169
I may be no Occam, but I'm all good with like having 1/4 less people on this god forsaken planet.
"we could do with 1.95 billion less people"
~Echo "occamrin" Rin
aye aye
Post by: naff on August 05, 2020, 02:22:58 AM
I may be no Occam, but I'm all good with like having 1/4 less people on this god forsaken planet.
too bad that won't fix anything
Post by: naff on August 05, 2020, 02:36:39 AM
Post by: Transhuman on August 05, 2020, 03:02:46 AM
I may be no Occam, but I'm all good with like having 1/4 less people on this god forsaken planet.
too bad that won't fix anything
Wouldn't hurt though...
Post by: team filler on August 05, 2020, 03:10:43 AM
it would hurt if you were one of the 1/4 less :fbmI may be no Occam, but I'm all good with like having 1/4 less people on this god forsaken planet.
too bad that won't fix anything
Wouldn't hurt though...
Post by: naff on August 05, 2020, 03:14:16 AM
Post by: BIONIC on August 05, 2020, 03:18:19 AM
Post by: Kara on August 05, 2020, 03:20:37 AM
:rollsafe :science
Post by: Transhuman on August 05, 2020, 03:23:38 AM
it would hurt if you were one of the 1/4 less :fbmI may be no Occam, but I'm all good with like having 1/4 less people on this god forsaken planet.
too bad that won't fix anything
Wouldn't hurt though...
That's a lot of pressure man
Post by: EchoRin on August 05, 2020, 03:28:22 AM
Post by: naff on August 05, 2020, 03:33:40 AM
didn't realise america's distribution of renewable energy was so damned bad too. 11%. one of the wealthiest nations in the worlds, less than 5% of the worlds population, but 17% of global energy consumption, and only 11% is renewable...
https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/us-energy-facts/
here's to the champs
:playa
Post by: EchoRin on August 05, 2020, 03:36:25 AM
I just feel like playing God and capping humans at 6 billion.
Post by: VomKriege on August 05, 2020, 05:54:27 AM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1290947258733727746
1 billion Americans and I only get 300 retweets ? #shadowban
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 05, 2020, 09:28:33 AM
kind of a pointless stat in regards to the current conversation but if we all lived at the pop density of metropolitan tokyo the world's pop could fit within the state of california. personally love urban density done well. californians/'murcan govt can't even manage a single high speed rail network between San Fran and LA though so probably not the best place to propose large infrastructure projects.
Honestly, yeah, I'm down for one super-massive megacity.
Post by: Oblivion on August 05, 2020, 02:34:39 PM
:thinking
Post by: Nintex on August 05, 2020, 02:36:39 PM
https://twitter.com/LitAnscombe/status/1291060717139845121He transitioned in a clinic in Moscow, that would be a fitting continuation of his arc
:thinking
Post by: VomKriege on August 05, 2020, 07:02:02 PM
What if they are alive and counted as fake Corona fatalities tho ? :thinking
Post by: Tripon on August 05, 2020, 07:04:10 PM
Post by: VomKriege on August 05, 2020, 07:05:08 PM
:hans1
Post by: VomKriege on August 05, 2020, 07:09:33 PM
:era
Post by: Mandark on August 05, 2020, 07:11:07 PM
stopping here and guessing that for the right it's qanon and for the left it's the cult of science or something
edit: it was qanon and "the cult of woke." partial credit but really should have gotten that one
Post by: Transhuman on August 05, 2020, 07:19:28 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 05, 2020, 07:32:28 PM
Post by: Transhuman on August 05, 2020, 07:34:24 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/l2fNf5o.jpg)
It's a shame you grew up in the 70's Joe
Post by: naff on August 05, 2020, 07:36:45 PM
kind of a pointless stat in regards to the current conversation but if we all lived at the pop density of metropolitan tokyo the world's pop could fit within the state of california. personally love urban density done well. californians/'murcan govt can't even manage a single high speed rail network between San Fran and LA though so probably not the best place to propose large infrastructure projects.
Honestly, yeah, I'm down for one super-massive megacity.
recently went through an interview process for a job in tokyo but decided things are all a bit fucked rn for big changes. very keen to try life in one of tokyos really dense wards one day.
Post by: Tripon on August 05, 2020, 07:52:02 PM
:trumps
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 05, 2020, 07:54:18 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/l2fNf5o.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/hzAlK4Y.jpg)
Post by: VomKriege on August 06, 2020, 04:39:21 AM
Post by: shosta on August 06, 2020, 04:40:03 AM
Post by: shosta on August 06, 2020, 04:41:06 AM
Or, if you use the first letter of every company, it spells "FAT GAY"
Post by: BisMarckie on August 06, 2020, 07:50:38 AM
Ben Garrison cartoon to subtle for me, I am making progress to become an illiterate cave man again :rejoice
Post by: VomKriege on August 06, 2020, 07:55:58 AM
I don’t get it.
Ben Garrison cartoon to subtle for me, I am making progress to become an illiterate cave man again :rejoice
Need more labels ?
(https://i.imgur.com/TXOstIy.jpg)
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 06, 2020, 09:25:38 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/ip34nrO.jpg)
I like that the logos spell out
F A T
G A Y
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 06, 2020, 09:53:08 AM
Post by: Kara on August 06, 2020, 11:37:02 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/ip34nrO.jpg)
Looking forward to Ben joining Adbusters.
Post by: Tripon on August 06, 2020, 12:17:50 PM
TAF YAG
Post by: Brehvolution on August 06, 2020, 12:45:59 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 06, 2020, 01:05:22 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1289197141336797190
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 06, 2020, 01:06:43 PM
welcome to the 3rd world alliance mr ben 8)
Post by: Nintex on August 06, 2020, 01:14:03 PM
This thread is going to be awfully quiet this month.I give it a week before: "Well I know I'm supposed to be off the grid, but"
https://mobile.twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1289197141336797190
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 06, 2020, 01:56:23 PM
What's disgusting is ben drawing trump as a normal sized person. Is ben embarrassed by what trump really looks like?
Yes.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 06, 2020, 02:33:22 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSunUS/status/1291383646700670983
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 06, 2020, 02:44:12 PM
Post by: Oblivion on August 06, 2020, 02:51:39 PM
Peterson got Covid
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSunUS/status/1291383646700670983
:neogaf :aweshum :betty :heyman :point :woody :crowdlaff :girlaff :dsp
Post by: Brehvolution on August 06, 2020, 02:58:43 PM
Post by: Oblivion on August 06, 2020, 02:59:59 PM
Quote
"He was put on a whole bunch of, kind of preemptively, he was put on anti-virals and things," Mikhaila Peterson said.
"I don't know if that was necessary, because his symptoms weren't that bad -- he didn't have a cough, he had a mild fever, but they just put him on everything.
but did they put him on hydroxychloroquine?? :doge
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 06, 2020, 03:11:51 PM
Quote
The virus posed little problem for Mikhalia, her child, or her husband, but it had a poor affect for Dr. Peterson, who ended up with pneumonia—for the second time this year. Compounding the problem was that his doctors were treating the virus with am antibiotic called fluoroquinolones.
This drug, said Mikhalia, is toxic for people suffering benzodiazepine withdrawal.
Thank God he was in Greater Serbian. Who knows how bad this would have been if he’d been treated in a North American hospital.
Post by: team filler on August 06, 2020, 03:48:06 PM
Post by: team filler on August 06, 2020, 03:51:13 PM
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 06, 2020, 03:53:19 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 06, 2020, 03:53:46 PM
Bruh how many fucking benzos a day was Jorp taking if he's still in withdraws after a year+, including being in an coma for months where presumably he was not taking any benzos
Apple Cider: Not Even Once.
Post by: Oblivion on August 06, 2020, 04:05:25 PM
Post by: Oblivion on August 06, 2020, 04:07:58 PM
Post by: Kara on August 06, 2020, 04:10:11 PM
wait, he went to serbia for medical help? as in, there was some medical treatment that even RUSSIA thought might be too unethical? :doge
It's a joke about Serbian irredentism.
Post by: Mandark on August 06, 2020, 04:11:59 PM
https://www.nedeljnik.rs/jordan-peterson-seeks-treatment-in-serbia-nedeljnik-can-reveal/
Post by: Kara on August 06, 2020, 04:34:58 PM
Con: Possibly was wrong.
Pro: Can dust off "Tupac alive in Serbia" memes for Daddy P.
Post by: Mandark on August 06, 2020, 04:40:39 PM
His daughter posting from Belgrade.
To tie it in with the last few pages, she shares some thoughts about natalism!
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 06, 2020, 04:51:56 PM
Bruh how many fucking benzos a day was Jorp taking if he's still in withdraws after a year+, including being in an coma for months where presumably he was not taking any benzos
He definitely should not still be suffering from withdrawals after this long, but apparently he was taking a pretty massive dose [way above recommended levels].
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 06, 2020, 05:19:20 PM
Post by: team filler on August 06, 2020, 05:23:49 PM
Post by: thisismyusername on August 06, 2020, 05:47:10 PM
Bruh how many fucking benzos a day was Jorp taking if he's still in withdraws after a year+, including being in an coma for months where presumably he was not taking any benzos
Bruh, his daughter is trying to kill him... :kermit
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 06, 2020, 06:00:24 PM
Better start digging.
Post by: Transhuman on August 06, 2020, 06:46:42 PM
Post by: VomKriege on August 06, 2020, 06:52:36 PM
Bruh how many fucking benzos a day was Jorp taking if he's still in withdraws after a year+, including being in an coma for months where presumably he was not taking any benzos
Did they ever publicize how long he was in a coma ? Months seems insane but I don't know about the procedure.
Post by: EchoRin on August 06, 2020, 06:56:36 PM
Post by: team filler on August 06, 2020, 06:58:54 PM
pakman :pacspit
(https://i.imgur.com/dXHHhFh.jpg)
momo ;)
Post by: naff on August 06, 2020, 07:20:27 PM
all of petersons crazy shit like wild mood swings while discussing ideology being propogated by disney movies makes so much more sense. who knew when talking about "slaying the dragon within us" he was really just heavily sedating himself :doge
Post by: Mandark on August 06, 2020, 07:23:24 PM
Post by: naff on August 06, 2020, 07:29:07 PM
Post by: Tripon on August 07, 2020, 12:04:42 AM
I hate this man so much.
Post by: Kara on August 07, 2020, 12:19:29 AM
They both even had shortlived stints in professional sports ownership. :thinking
Post by: EightBitNate on August 07, 2020, 12:19:50 AM
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1291526945319145472
I hate this man so much.
pretendingtobere-tarded.jpg
Post by: Oblivion on August 07, 2020, 12:43:15 AM
:brain this'll have to do since we don't have a skull emoji
Post by: VomKriege on August 07, 2020, 05:05:16 AM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1291535747246428162
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 07, 2020, 08:58:25 AM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 07, 2020, 12:42:02 PM
Quote
One-time University of Toronto professor and clinical pyschologist Jordan Peterson has another fight on his hands these days.
The 58-year-old Edmonton native who drew attention in his U of T days for battling Bill C-16 is, according to the UK tabloid The Sun, now fighting off the conronavirus and a year-long battle with prescription drug addition.
According to his daughter Mikhaila who has been feeding the Sun exclusively the details of her father’s health battles, Jordan Peterson caught coronavirus in a Serbian hospital while recovering from an over-reliance on the anti-anxiety drug Benzodiazepine.
Also according to his daughter, Peterson is battling pneumonia for the second time this year.
LOL
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 07, 2020, 01:00:37 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 07, 2020, 02:54:04 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 07, 2020, 03:44:26 PM
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1291526945319145472
I hate this man so much.
:picard
Too busy doing this instead of finishing his film on time; and he calls socialists lazy.
Post by: Tripon on August 07, 2020, 04:41:22 PM
:lol
---
Sam Seder who is not a BAD LEFTY is guest hosting for Chris Haynes tonight on MSNBC.
https://twitter.com/posadist_trapgd/status/1291770025221795846
Post by: Oblivion on August 07, 2020, 05:10:48 PM
https://twitter.com/hannahgais/status/1291818512818806784
:lol
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Sam Seder who is not a BAD LEFTY is guest hosting for Chris Haynes tonight on MSNBC.
https://twitter.com/posadist_trapgd/status/1291770025221795846
holy shit, i don't even remember the last time sam was on MSNBC simply as a panelist, but now they're letting him substitute host a show? :o my boy's climbing up the ladder nicely :jawalrus
Post by: VomKriege on August 07, 2020, 05:16:35 PM
More than twice as many people have already died from Covid than die during a really bad flu season, but okay.
He seems to cycle every couple of days.
COViD numbers are fake -> Fatality rate is negligible -> Just the flu bro -> Chloroquin absolutely works anyway -> Masks are not 100% effective so useless -> COViD numbers are fake.
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1291757359216328705
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 07, 2020, 05:40:37 PM
Quote
Lynchburg, VA — The Executive Committee of Liberty University’s Board of Trustees, acting on behalf of the full Board, met today and requested that Jerry Falwell, Jr. take an indefinite leave of absence from his roles as President and Chancellor of Liberty University, to which he has agreed, effective immediately.
https://www.liberty.edu/news/index.cfm?PID=36659&MID=380385&pid=18495&MID=380385
Post by: Kara on August 07, 2020, 05:56:49 PM
Post by: VomKriege on August 07, 2020, 06:17:46 PM
RIP Jr., died forfree speechTrailer Park Boys.
https://youtu.be/80FhnenFIGg
RIP Morty.
"You're a grown man... You're supposed to be a grown man of God."
Post by: VomKriege on August 07, 2020, 07:02:05 PM
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-jerry-falwell-jr-miami-beach-pool-boy-evangelical-explained-850380/
Post by: team filler on August 07, 2020, 07:54:14 PM
:birdman
Post by: Nintex on August 07, 2020, 08:28:22 PM
10/10 take
Post by: Kara on August 07, 2020, 08:36:55 PM
Post by: Transhuman on August 07, 2020, 08:37:44 PM
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1291526945319145472
I hate this man so much.
You might like this then
https://youtu.be/9V85OykSDT8
@1:01:17
Post by: EchoRin on August 07, 2020, 08:46:58 PM
#BBQCrew
Post by: team filler on August 07, 2020, 09:02:36 PM
Post by: curly on August 08, 2020, 03:03:31 PM
She went for the "I'm Checking Out of This Convo" move (naturally she didn't) as well as the "How Dare You Accuse Me of Being Well Off, I Have Many Poor Relatives," and topped it off with the classic "The Fact that You're Disagreeing With Me Proves My Point."
Post by: VomKriege on August 08, 2020, 03:46:52 PM
Post by: Mandark on August 08, 2020, 05:54:54 PM
This dude is amazing
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EexHcJRXoAcTOtR.jpg)
Post by: VomKriege on August 08, 2020, 05:58:10 PM
:juicy
Post by: Kara on August 08, 2020, 06:05:08 PM
Post by: Mandark on August 08, 2020, 06:11:11 PM
Post by: VomKriege on August 08, 2020, 06:20:05 PM
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1292158459484557312
Post by: shosta on August 08, 2020, 06:23:22 PM
Post by: VomKriege on August 08, 2020, 06:24:49 PM
didn't know dinesh was a sonic fan
Or Evangelion :expert
Post by: VomKriege on August 08, 2020, 06:34:17 PM
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1291848072138575873
:popular
The current intro of his wiki is pretty fire tho :
Quote
Dinesh Joseph D'Souza (/dɪˈnɛʃ dəˈsuːzə/; born April 25, 1961) is an Indian-born American far-right political provocateur, author, filmmaker, conspiracy theorist and convicted felon.[1][2][3][4][5]
:dead
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 08, 2020, 06:40:46 PM
With the most :brain posters, as with mass shooters and serial killers, you can spend a lot of time trying to reconstruct their psyche and understand the internal logic that motivates them, and ~80% of the time you find out they just hate women.
I don't hate women, just what they have become.
Post by: team filler on August 08, 2020, 08:39:46 PM
Post by: Kara on August 08, 2020, 08:56:29 PM
Post by: Oblivion on August 08, 2020, 10:15:59 PM
Post by: benjipwns on August 08, 2020, 10:21:07 PM
Post by: VomKriege on August 09, 2020, 12:26:49 AM
are we going to have a Bore watch of Trump Card?
You just activated... My trump card.
Post by: team filler on August 09, 2020, 03:33:00 AM
:rejoice
Post by: Rufus on August 09, 2020, 06:12:08 AM
twitter.com/FredNietzky/status/1292176232755400705The perfect example? Furries, who are pariahs and predominantly male (a portion of which are probably on the spectrum, like Bronies). Mhm. OK.
Rehabilitating the Unabomber, too. :donot
Post by: VomKriege on August 09, 2020, 06:27:27 AM
twitter.com/FredNietzky/status/1292176232755400705The perfect example? Furries, who are pariahs and predominantly male (a portion of which are probably on the spectrum, like Bronies). Mhm. OK.
Rehabilitating the Unabomber, too. :donot
Separate the art from the artist. :derp
The furry example bothered me too... You don't need to be very sophisticated to get that... furryism (?) ...is obviously for many people an outlet to let go and compensate for a perceived lack of socialisation (affection, kindness, positive interactions) in their alienating everyday normal lives. They're not exactly going out of their way to "assault with kindness" people in normal life either. It's pretty easy to tune it out online & offline unless you're the one seeking furry stuff.
Post by: team filler on August 09, 2020, 01:51:13 PM
Post by: shosta on August 09, 2020, 01:53:10 PM
Post by: Kara on August 09, 2020, 02:15:44 PM
Good luck and good hunting in the posting wars, Mr. Greenwald. :salute
Post by: team filler on August 09, 2020, 02:49:28 PM
:rogan
Post by: VomKriege on August 09, 2020, 03:02:39 PM
Post by: Tripon on August 09, 2020, 03:23:07 PM
---
https://twitter.com/EdASalazar/status/1292370359274967044
Post by: Mandark on August 09, 2020, 05:08:35 PM
Post by: naff on August 09, 2020, 06:35:00 PM
This dude is amazing
https://twitter.com/FredNietzky/status/1291191278802272257spoiler (click to show/hide)(https://i.imgur.com/JS0MN6B.gif)[close]
:lol
https://twitter.com/FredNietzky/status/1261503666068037634
Post by: Mandark on August 09, 2020, 07:59:24 PM
Ben Shapiro bought a url to set up an "Antifa Recruitment Official" page.
Post by: Kara on August 09, 2020, 08:08:40 PM
Ben Shapiro bought a url to set up an "Antifa Recruitment Official" page.
https://www.reddit.com/r/COMPLETEANARCHY/comments/i6mf8j/advice_needed_i_created_the_join_antifa_site_and/
Post by: team filler on August 09, 2020, 08:12:58 PM
Post by: Mandark on August 09, 2020, 08:20:19 PM
Post by: Tripon on August 09, 2020, 08:37:15 PM
Are you ready for sports wankery.
Post by: VomKriege on August 09, 2020, 09:31:31 PM
:heh
Post by: VomKriege on August 09, 2020, 11:19:42 PM
COPROPHAGIA & BUGCHASING FOR TRUMP :mods
Post by: Nintex on August 10, 2020, 05:24:23 AM
RIP internet pack it up bois
Post by: BIONIC on August 10, 2020, 05:40:10 AM
Post by: benjipwns on August 10, 2020, 12:22:05 PM
But they said the primaries weren't rigged.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 10, 2020, 12:43:14 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/ClipsDave/status/1291730409542189056
https://mobile.twitter.com/ClipsDave/status/1291780721980235776
Post by: Tripon on August 10, 2020, 01:42:28 PM
accidentlyleftwing.com
Post by: Rufus on August 10, 2020, 02:52:08 PM
twitter.com/seanhannity/status/1292858694464610308Not as many "no billionaires = no jobs" replies as I would have expected.
accidentlyleftwing.com
Post by: Rufus on August 10, 2020, 03:05:04 PM
twitter.com/MarkAmesExiled/status/1292807560949571585I'm no huge fan of our GreenDU, but "hanging out with" looks more like "also there" at what appears to be an official meet and greet or some press conference.
Not that her presence isn't remarkable, or that she wouldn't ally herself with questionable elements, given how staunchly anti-Putin she appears to be, but this isn't as clear as the tweet wants us to believe it is.
Post by: Rufus on August 10, 2020, 03:41:15 PM
:salute
The only wrong-think (by my standards) I can see glancing at her Wikipedia entry is her support for the EU copyright reforms.
Post by: benjipwns on August 10, 2020, 03:42:52 PM
https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1292876931449393154
Post by: Mandark on August 10, 2020, 03:53:14 PM
Post by: VomKriege on August 10, 2020, 04:09:50 PM
Post by: Rufus on August 10, 2020, 04:16:08 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 10, 2020, 04:29:20 PM
Post by: Tripon on August 10, 2020, 04:31:57 PM
He's clearly getting aroused and losing his train of thought :lol :lol :lol
also :jeanluc
also :dead at those lyrics
also :camby at this dude being in his 30s and thinking he has to comment on vulgar songs and shit. Breh, that song ain't for you and you can easily avoid it if it offends your sensibilities.
It's just a cynical play for younger conservative men who look at brown women and think icky.
Post by: curly on August 10, 2020, 04:42:18 PM
:thinking Am I an old man now?
Post by: Nintex on August 10, 2020, 04:53:40 PM
John McAfee is arrested in what looks like a German speaking country.
Post by: Tripon on August 10, 2020, 05:23:34 PM
This one actually made me mad. The reason why so many miners get black lung is because they're breathing in dust particles that literally kill them as they work.
Post by: BIONIC on August 10, 2020, 05:25:41 PM
Aw shucks, he's such a goofy murderer.
He’d make for a great US President then :rodney
Post by: Nintex on August 10, 2020, 05:29:39 PM
:rimshot
Post by: Mandark on August 10, 2020, 06:07:20 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 10, 2020, 06:46:22 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 10, 2020, 07:02:33 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/UNXpgvz.png)
Somebody remind me again while people stan the NYT? :neogaf
Post by: Kara on August 11, 2020, 12:31:04 AM
http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationSearch/SearchResultDetail?inquirytype=EntityName&directionType=Initial&searchNameOrder=NEWDISCOURSES%20L190002342870&aggregateId=flal-l19000234287-bbb6d03c-4831-47cf-af91-3d173f96b3de&searchTerm=New%20Discourses&listNameOrder=NEWDISCOURSES%20L190002342870
Weird how this keeps (allegedly) happening. :yeshrug
Post by: VomKriege on August 11, 2020, 12:59:53 AM
https://youtu.be/h_jhLBnKCkE
Will he mention that Lenin didn't pay his Berlin bar tab ?
Post by: benjipwns on August 11, 2020, 01:01:38 AM
Post by: VomKriege on August 11, 2020, 01:02:55 AM
wait, how is he still filming for a movie that supposedly already came out?
Behold the power of free markets bending time when fully unregulated.
:usacry
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 11, 2020, 08:01:51 AM
Post by: BIONIC on August 11, 2020, 08:07:49 AM
Post by: Nintex on August 11, 2020, 08:47:27 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 11, 2020, 10:17:03 AM
Post by: shosta on August 11, 2020, 12:44:18 PM
Post by: Oblivion on August 11, 2020, 01:04:49 PM
committing patricide to own the postmodern neomarxists
Post by: shosta on August 11, 2020, 01:08:14 PM
Post by: Oblivion on August 11, 2020, 02:58:32 PM
:dead
Post by: team filler on August 11, 2020, 03:11:35 PM
https://twitter.com/LizardRumsfeld/status/1293153438294056961https://twitter.com/Ptiki/status/1293162551069609985
committing patricide to own the postmodern neomarxists
Post by: Rufus on August 11, 2020, 04:19:23 PM
Post by: VomKriege on August 11, 2020, 04:31:28 PM
just got a Hulu ad of Sebastian Gorka literally selling fish oil
https://youtu.be/uT8F9qgT4Ok
Post by: shosta on August 11, 2020, 04:32:28 PM
The original wank dad thread was started a little less than three years ago. I know they say all politics is sexual pathology but jorp going down this tortured path and spinning up an entire platform because his daughter got into a relationship with an unwell Marxist-Leninist...He spent ten years perfecting Maps of Meaning :bolo
Post by: Oblivion on August 11, 2020, 05:14:55 PM
The original wank dad thread was started a little less than three years ago. I know they say all politics is sexual pathology but jorp going down this tortured path and spinning up an entire platform because his daughter got into a relationship with an unwell Marxist-Leninist...
(https://i.gifer.com/origin/d6/d6e69b361c9eb5e7f9dc91f4ec2c2866_w200.gif)
turning into a hardcore rightwinger cause a stalinist cockblocked your attempts to bang your own daughter :heyman
Post by: benjipwns on August 11, 2020, 05:20:48 PM
just got a Hulu ad of Sebastian Gorka literally selling fish oilI WAS SKEPTICAL TOO BUT IT'S REAL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THiYv4h8AEI
Post by: shosta on August 11, 2020, 05:25:11 PM
Post by: VomKriege on August 11, 2020, 05:25:22 PM
Post by: VomKriege on August 11, 2020, 05:26:50 PM
turns out that ad is 11 months old (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzGmOuF9cMg)... sad
https://youtu.be/t4Xvz-PyZks
Post by: Kara on August 11, 2020, 05:33:44 PM
Regardless, well wishes to the happy throuple. As we say in Polish, sto lat! :playa
Post by: VomKriege on August 11, 2020, 05:36:22 PM
Post by: Rufus on August 11, 2020, 05:44:26 PM
I thought M.Peterson was with that British ex-kickboxer allegedly running camgirls warehouses in Romania ?Andrey Igor Morgan is the upgrade? :leon :heh
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 11, 2020, 05:45:49 PM
Post by: Rufus on August 11, 2020, 05:57:53 PM
He also runs the Peterson racket, apparently. I'm sure he's the most qualified person they could find.
Post by: Kara on August 11, 2020, 06:23:43 PM
:ussrcry :ussrcry :ussrcry :ussrcry :ussrcry
Post by: shosta on August 11, 2020, 06:34:21 PM
Post by: VomKriege on August 11, 2020, 06:51:37 PM
Post by: BIONIC on August 11, 2020, 06:54:16 PM
how can one man's life produce so much lore (talking about Peterson, not the war hero)
He ain’t no riotous ::)
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 11, 2020, 08:12:04 PM
Post by: team filler on August 11, 2020, 08:14:52 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 11, 2020, 08:44:01 PM
how can one man's life produce so much lore (talking about Peterson, not the war hero)
Jorp is a hero in the war for Western Civilization.
Post by: benjipwns on August 11, 2020, 08:56:56 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 11, 2020, 08:58:41 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 11, 2020, 09:03:34 PM
Post by: Tripon on August 11, 2020, 09:40:04 PM
https://twitter.com/AshBCoffin/status/1292197592768696320
Post by: shosta on August 11, 2020, 09:45:00 PM
Post by: EchoRin on August 12, 2020, 12:29:03 AM
https://twitter.com/AshBCoffin/status/1293339942136020992
Man, some lefties really are dumb as fuck. Maybe they need My Little Pony characters popped into historical pictures to comprehend how stupid their hot take is.
Post by: Kara on August 12, 2020, 01:20:03 AM
https://twitter.com/LizardRumsfeld/status/1293153438294056961
committing patricide to own the postmodern neomarxists
WHY DID NO ONE MENTION THEY'RE PLAYING "DRAGOSTEA DIN TEI" IN DA CLUB :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Post by: kingv on August 12, 2020, 02:18:50 AM
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1293037736639725569
I miss the days when he just had the second shittiest column on slate.
Post by: VomKriege on August 12, 2020, 02:20:54 AM
Post by: EchoRin on August 12, 2020, 04:30:57 AM
B Shap killin it.
Post by: Oblivion on August 12, 2020, 11:23:36 AM
did they get bigger? 👀
in many cases boob size can noticeably fluctuate based on a woman's menstrual cycle
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Post by: Tripon on August 12, 2020, 12:01:50 PM
Post by: BIONIC on August 12, 2020, 12:09:27 PM
Post by: Oblivion on August 12, 2020, 12:22:56 PM
https://twitter.com/steve_hanke/status/1292687117383065600
lol what the hell does this even mean
Post by: Tripon on August 12, 2020, 12:25:45 PM
https://twitter.com/steve_hanke/status/1292687117383065600
lol what the hell does this even mean
He's mad that Vietnam is aggressively controlling coronavirus response by restricting movement. I don't know what Vietnam rules are, but I imagine it's something like if you live in a city, you can't move to another city or town at the moment.
Post by: shosta on August 12, 2020, 12:28:02 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 12, 2020, 02:39:59 PM
Post by: shosta on August 12, 2020, 02:55:11 PM
Post by: Tripon on August 12, 2020, 03:06:45 PM
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Post by: Kara on August 12, 2020, 03:08:45 PM
it comes from their human freedom index report they put out every year but the points aren't ever explained, it's just a subjective ranking like when I say Great Rumbler is a 9.5 and Nintex is a 0
Yours sounds pretty objective tbh.
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 12, 2020, 03:11:24 PM
Also, apparently the data is from 2019. So uh, it's not even coronavirus related and the guy seemed to made it all up to prove a nonexistent point?
I think he's just saying that because people in Vietnam don't have much freedom of movement in general, the coronavirus is less able to spread.
Post by: Dickie Dee on August 12, 2020, 03:31:01 PM
https://twitter.com/scottcobb/status/1292694221460328448
I just found out Alex Jones is
Post by: VomKriege on August 12, 2020, 05:21:10 PM
https://twitter.com/scottcobb/status/1292694221460328448
I can understand not wanting to give InfoWars the click but Jones video site (banned.video) has the full 6mn "special report" of Alex rampaging though a crowd of half a dozen people with his tiny bullhorn to
Post by: Kara on August 12, 2020, 05:51:27 PM
Also, apparently the data is from 2019. So uh, it's not even coronavirus related and the guy seemed to made it all up to prove a nonexistent point?
I think he's just saying that because people in Vietnam don't have much freedom of movement in general, the coronavirus is less able to spread.
I read it as: Vietnam's response to the virus isn't laudable because resident freedom of movement is extremely curtailed there.
For what it's worth, everything I've read about freedom of movement in Vietnam pertains to the fact that the government uses nigh unlimited powers under a decree to impede activists from traveling, especially abroad. Obviously laws trickle down from their intended target, but that's what gets the ink. From time to time I hear about environmental activists getting clobbered by the police, but that's not quite the same issue, and lmao if we want to talk about impeding environmental activists worldwide.
To show how meaningless this kind of stuff is, Belarus has a perfect 10 out of 10 in this metric in 2019. Venezuela has a 0 out of 10, but a perfect 10 out of 10 in freedom of foreign movement (no wonder they have a coup problem!) and a 10 out of 10 in women's freedom of movement.
:science
Post by: VomKriege on August 12, 2020, 06:34:29 PM
:foodcourt
Maybe tweet less ?
Post by: VomKriege on August 13, 2020, 01:00:12 AM
Featuring James O'Keefe, written & directed by a (white) guy from Breitbart / Project Veritas.
:nothot
Kenyan ANNIHILATED by FACTS and LIGHTSABER
"As informative today than it was in 2009"
https://youtu.be/jbW64215HA8?t=275 (https://youtu.be/jbW64215HA8?t=275)
Post by: VomKriege on August 13, 2020, 07:50:43 AM
Post by: Oblivion on August 13, 2020, 02:38:32 PM
Post by: shosta on August 13, 2020, 05:47:51 PM
everything he posts is dumb.
Post by: benjipwns on August 13, 2020, 07:30:00 PM
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Rebellion PAC's premiere ad. To survive, we've had to go numb for the last 4 years. Ordinary Americans are traumatized by the attacks on their democracy, their stability and their future.
It's time to fight back.
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on August 13, 2020, 07:52:51 PM
https://twitter.com/evopsychgoogle/status/1293395150060675073the ea/rationalist sphere is severely underrepresented itt and is in a way higher weight class than e.g. rubin or bill mitchell
Post by: Mandark on August 13, 2020, 07:57:16 PM
https://twitter.com/evopsychgoogle/status/1287292264306233346
Post by: EchoRin on August 13, 2020, 08:23:12 PM
Did anyone ever post this?
https://twitter.com/evopsychgoogle/status/1287292264306233346
I don't know who this is, but I get the vibe that he would be a college professor in Rhode Island that talks and acts and dresses like this to get blowjobs from freshmen who would be enthralled by his "intellect".
kinda like that one movie with Joaquin and the redhead from Superbad.
Post by: curly on August 13, 2020, 08:29:48 PM
On the prowl for the cum of my rivals
Post by: Mandark on August 13, 2020, 08:33:13 PM
Post by: curly on August 13, 2020, 09:01:43 PM
Post by: El Babua on August 14, 2020, 11:41:09 AM
Post by: Tripon on August 14, 2020, 12:03:21 PM
Post by: curly on August 14, 2020, 12:05:39 PM
???
Post by: curly on August 14, 2020, 12:20:19 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 14, 2020, 12:39:08 PM
Post by: Kara on August 14, 2020, 01:11:33 PM
With that said, Assy McGee's posts at the beginning of this thread are absolutely hilarious now. Boy posting up with credentialism for a guy who clearly has some serious judgement issues (which tbf may largely stem from a chemical dependence that ruins many lives).
May all the lost find their way without a shepherd. :blessup
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 14, 2020, 01:27:40 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/RationalDis/status/1293292933807058948
Absolute clown-show family.
Post by: Nintex on August 14, 2020, 01:30:21 PM
Post by: Tripon on August 14, 2020, 01:35:14 PM
The replies. Something tells me people do not forgive him for 2000. :doge
Post by: Kara on August 14, 2020, 01:44:01 PM
Don't agree with you trying to make the man who saved us from rear engine American made cars a wank dad, though.
:bolo
Post by: Tripon on August 14, 2020, 02:01:54 PM
That reads like Club de Cordeliers deranged Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez article. :lol
Don't agree with you trying to make the man who saved us from rear engine American made cars a wank dad, though.
:bolo
What makes a wank dad, the content or the need to be infamous?
Post by: shosta on August 14, 2020, 02:07:47 PM
Post by: shosta on August 14, 2020, 06:11:06 PM
https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/1978/06/1978b_bpea_lerner.pdf
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The founder of functional finance being a rational expectations guy is a pretty good troll :money
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Post by: Kara on August 14, 2020, 06:18:27 PM
MMT guys don't even read late Abba Lerner though :mjcry
https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/1978/06/1978b_bpea_lerner.pdfspoiler (click to show/hide)The founder of functional finance being a rational expectations guy is a pretty good troll :money[close]
They also don't read economic histories of the late German Empire and Weimar Republic.
Post by: shosta on August 14, 2020, 06:28:41 PM
Post by: Kara on August 14, 2020, 06:31:45 PM
Post by: shosta on August 14, 2020, 06:48:49 PM
Post by: Nintex on August 14, 2020, 06:53:16 PM
Every country fought the war on a credit card, the only difference is 1) germany lost 2) the british and french could tap into american money marketscredit cards did not yet exist during WW1, which is why they all went bankrupt.
Those silly buggers thought you had to pay for things with currencies backed by gold :neogaf
Post by: Kara on August 14, 2020, 07:11:20 PM
Every country fought the war on a credit card, the only difference is 1) germany lost 2) the british and french could tap into american money markets
The U.S. and U.K. paid for ~25% of their war costs with income taxes.
Not super familiar with the tax history of France, but I believe they implemented one around the start of the war and raised rates during it. Again iirc, it didn't get much traction since it started part and parcel with the war.
Regardless, and specifically as it pertains to the world's sole superpower adopting chartalism, sometimes empires do fall and the standards in those situations aren't the same as when they're ascendant. To my knowledge present day chartalists don't dwell on this too much.
Post by: Tripon on August 14, 2020, 07:16:25 PM
RIP. Flew too close to the sun.
https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1294412608049745921
Post by: Mandark on August 14, 2020, 07:17:38 PM
Post by: Nintex on August 14, 2020, 07:18:13 PM
Post by: shosta on August 14, 2020, 07:20:19 PM
The U.S. and U.K. paid for ~25% of their war costs with income taxes.When Germany raises funds for its war through public bonds and doesn't repay the bonds after the war, that's effectively a tax! The problem is that the bonds became monetized in Germany in comparison to the UK or France, which is why Germany had shortages. And this was in turn a consequence of those latter countries having a deeper and more developed finance capitalism than Germany did at the time.
Not super familiar with the tax history of France, but I believe they implemented one around the start of the war and raised rates during it. Again iirc, it didn't get much traction since it started part and parcel with the war.
Regardless, and specifically as it pertains to the world's sole superpower adopting chartalism, sometimes empires do fall and the standards in those situations aren't the same as when they're ascendant. To my knowledge present day chartalists don't dwell on this too much.
https://encyclopedia.1914-1918-online.net/article/war_finance_germany
Anyway arguing for or against any kind of economic regime based solely on what would happen if that country lost a devastating war and was subsequently plundered is pretty disingenuous. And don't tell me that so-called chartalism is only possible under the conditions of monetary hegemony because the(ir) literature only ever relies on monetary sovereignty. But I'm not a magic money tree guy so don't expect me to defend that argument much more than I have.
Post by: EightBitNate on August 14, 2020, 07:23:35 PM
Post by: VomKriege on August 14, 2020, 07:25:56 PM
and it seems to me/that you lived your life/like a grifter in the wind
I've said things you people wouldn't believe. Russian bots on fire off the shoulder of Parler. I watched fake COVID tests glitter in the dark near the White House. All those tweets will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to ban.
Post by: Mandark on August 14, 2020, 07:26:47 PM
But what was the original ban for?
The classic "arrested for resisting arrest."
Post by: Kara on August 14, 2020, 07:28:58 PM
When Germany raises funds for its war through public bonds and doesn't repay the bonds after the war, that's effectively a tax!
I like your creative way of interpreting expropriation, we need that kind of ingenuity in the socialist movement. :like
It's not disingenuous to ask what happened to a country where Chartalism held away (which was the German Empire). Austrian School guys also conspicuously don't dwell too much on what happened with Austria-Hungary. (Again, to my knowledge, the less time I spend reading Austrian School guys the better.)
Post by: VomKriege on August 14, 2020, 07:36:37 PM
And yet he's out there spinning like a derviche for some of them.
:curious
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 14, 2020, 07:39:11 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Ad_Inifinitum/status/1252717799413370880
Post by: Nintex on August 14, 2020, 07:42:47 PM
Benji’s got a good thread to remember Bill with.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Ad_Inifinitum/status/1252717799413370880
Not only that, Ash (@AshBCoffin) retweeted this post of his
https://twitter.com/Ad_Inifinitum/status/1294104884887851011 (https://twitter.com/Ad_Inifinitum/status/1294104884887851011)
Post by: team filler on August 14, 2020, 07:53:10 PM
Post by: shosta on August 14, 2020, 07:53:42 PM
I like your creative way of interpreting expropriation, we need that kind of ingenuity in the socialist movement. :likeI'm being cheeky but only to point out why "germany didn't raise taxes" can't explain chartalism's failure in the german empire. It did tax the public, just not legally.
It's not disingenuous to ask what happened to a country where Chartalism held away (which was the German Empire).It is disingenuous to pretend the economic consequences are primarily the result of the financing decisions of the government. To the extent that Germany expected to plunder its borders, there was a shortfall. But inflation was stabilized to 2% by the end of the war and it didn't become a problem again until the French decided to fuck Germany to death.
Post by: Rufus on August 14, 2020, 08:04:18 PM
twitter.com/Joelmpetlin/status/1294378635231662080At the end of the day, you want your plumber to win the national plumbing cup.
And yet he's out there spinning like a derviche for some of them.
:curious
Post by: Tripon on August 14, 2020, 08:11:07 PM
https://twitter.com/Joelmpetlin/status/1294378635231662080
And yet he's out there spinning like a derviche for some of them.
:curious
Ben Shapiro forgetting about Joe the Plumber. :maf
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 14, 2020, 08:17:05 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWJ--FhWkAQH_ae?format=png&name=900x900)
That can't be real...
Bill’s not the brightest.
https://mobile.twitter.com/KT_So_It_Goes/status/1050124864919617539
Post by: Tripon on August 14, 2020, 09:43:31 PM
I'm putting my foot down that this is a wank post.
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 15, 2020, 12:38:03 AM
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Post by: VomKriege on August 15, 2020, 12:51:23 PM
Post by: Tripon on August 15, 2020, 12:54:21 PM
We need a smooth brain emote.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 15, 2020, 02:12:32 PM
https://twitter.com/UweBollocks/status/1294627328824422401
Billy who loved tweeting.
Post by: shosta on August 15, 2020, 02:22:29 PM
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https://twitter.com/MonValleyAF/status/1294683115730993152
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Post by: VomKriege on August 15, 2020, 02:44:34 PM
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1294680730283454464spoiler (click to show/hide)https://twitter.com/MonValleyAF/status/1294683115730993152[close]
Jokes so bad I made them several days ago.
....do they not realize there are black hispanics...?
African-Americans come from Africa. :morans
What about the ones who come from Jamaica
Zion-Americans. :birdman
Post by: Tripon on August 15, 2020, 02:45:34 PM
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1294680730283454464spoiler (click to show/hide)https://twitter.com/MonValleyAF/status/1294683115730993152[close]
Jokes so bad I made them several days ago.....do they not realize there are black hispanics...?
African-Americans come from Africa. :morans
What about the ones who come from Jamaica
Zion-Americans. :birdman
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1294680307992604673
Dinesh is really bad at this.
Post by: VomKriege on August 15, 2020, 02:56:15 PM
Post by: shosta on August 15, 2020, 03:33:50 PM
he fucking loves doing this shit
Post by: shosta on August 15, 2020, 04:20:52 PM
Fucking owned
Post by: Oblivion on August 15, 2020, 04:31:26 PM
https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/1294309741229875200
this clown used to write for think progress
Post by: VomKriege on August 15, 2020, 04:32:19 PM
:derp :science :brain :neogaf
Post by: Tripon on August 15, 2020, 06:09:29 PM
Are we getting CPAC next year? :mjcry
https://twitter.com/mschlapp/status/1294361206560612353
Depends on getting federal liability waivers. :doge
Still nuts that CPAC knew that COVID was in the area and still held their event way back in March.
Post by: shosta on August 15, 2020, 07:00:21 PM
Post by: Oblivion on August 15, 2020, 07:16:55 PM
https://twitter.com/thomaschattwill/status/1294395767713669121
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 15, 2020, 08:10:39 PM
Post by: shosta on August 16, 2020, 03:32:16 AM
Post by: shosta on August 16, 2020, 03:37:25 AM
Post by: Nintex on August 16, 2020, 07:15:34 AM
Just noticed Twitter finally let people restrict their replies to people the account follows... it's a sad day for posters 😞Twitter is ruining everything, clowns :gaas
Post by: EchoRin on August 16, 2020, 08:19:20 AM
But if you are someone that particularly thrives on getting reactions for the sake of itself or for the sake of popularity, you ain't going to use that feature. Basically it makes no sense for anyone who isn't trying to use Twitter in a more private and personal way. You will just stick to blocking individual accounts.
Post by: Oblivion on August 16, 2020, 08:23:42 AM
Post by: VomKriege on August 16, 2020, 12:36:11 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 16, 2020, 12:38:53 PM
Post by: Nintex on August 16, 2020, 12:52:47 PM
Post by: Tripon on August 16, 2020, 01:16:14 PM
Post by: VomKriege on August 16, 2020, 01:17:11 PM
Do they actually think the all meat diet works?
Does it matter ? :lucille
Post by: VomKriege on August 16, 2020, 02:55:21 PM
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1295021989174947841
Post by: Rufus on August 16, 2020, 03:03:17 PM
Post by: shosta on August 16, 2020, 03:04:44 PM
Post by: Nintex on August 16, 2020, 03:04:47 PM
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Why are private bathrooms, both in our homes and in commercial establishments, so much cleaner and less smelly than public bathrooms? Could it be because they are privately owned? Here, in miniature, is a test case of private versus public ownership, ie capitalism v. socialismThis is one of the all time greats :rejoice
Post by: VomKriege on August 16, 2020, 03:10:06 PM
that tweet about bathrooms is heroin for a wank junkie like me. straight into my fucking veins, dinesh! :noah
He's got an USPS rant going on that is all wank too.
Post by: VomKriege on August 16, 2020, 03:16:32 PM
Don't force your nanny-state prevention about prison rape on me, I'll let the invisible hand decides thank you very much.
:bedroomeyes
Edit :
https://youtu.be/o230K7oZExU
:heh :neogaf :gopnik
"When you're in a confinement center it's a real Empire Strikes Back moment" *adjusts gold watch*
Post by: Tripon on August 16, 2020, 03:48:20 PM
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Post by: Mandark on August 16, 2020, 04:55:46 PM
Post by: curly on August 16, 2020, 04:58:17 PM
Post by: Oblivion on August 16, 2020, 05:36:37 PM
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1295027713145806848
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1295021989174947841
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1295022884637888513
Post by: shosta on August 16, 2020, 05:45:49 PM
Post by: Oblivion on August 16, 2020, 06:21:46 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 16, 2020, 06:26:08 PM
https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1294347198302322688
F
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 16, 2020, 06:34:15 PM
Post by: VomKriege on August 17, 2020, 12:26:17 AM
Can we extend the experiment to abstinence before marriage ?
:whatsthedeal
Quote from: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/08/dinesh-dsouza-is-making-a-comeback/567233/
The cultural left in this country is responsible for causing 9/11 … Some leading figures in this group are Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer, George Soros, Michael Moore, Bill Moyers, and Noam Chomsky. Moreover the cultural left includes organizations such as the American Civil Liberties Union, the National Organization for Women, People for the American Way, Planned Parenthood, Human Rights Watch, and moveon.org.
Guess not.
Post by: naff on August 17, 2020, 01:06:17 AM
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1295021989174947841
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1295021989174947841
Post by: Transhuman on August 17, 2020, 01:22:44 AM
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Under D’Souza’s editorship, the paper published a “lighthearted interview” with a former member of the Ku Klux Klan, accompanied by a staged photo of a black man hanging from a tree; an article about affirmative action entitled “Dis Sho’ Ain’t No Jive, Bro,” written in Ebonics; and the names of members of the Gay Student Alliance. In his memoir, Stress Test, former Treasury secretary Tim Geithner, who attended Dartmouth at the same time as D’Souza, recalls running into him at a coffee shop and asking him “how it felt to be such a dick.”
D’Souza allows that some of his behavior may have been “sophomoric.” But, as the leader of the young conservative counter-Establishment, he got national attention. “Here I am. I’m 20 years old, 21, and I find myself being written about in The New York Times and Newsweek,” D’Souza recalls.
D'spuza isn't a wank dad, he's an Alex Jones. Whats the point in listening to someone who doesn't believe what they say? Who just produces twitter hottakes to clickbait e-tards into buying books?
Post by: kingv on August 17, 2020, 04:45:55 AM
Post by: Transhuman on August 17, 2020, 05:36:18 AM
Post by: Nintex on August 17, 2020, 06:09:35 AM
:rogan
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 17, 2020, 09:22:25 AM
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1294021145272954889
Can we extend the experiment to abstinence before marriage ?
:whatsthedealQuote from: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/08/dinesh-dsouza-is-making-a-comeback/567233/The cultural left in this country is responsible for causing 9/11 … Some leading figures in this group are Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer, George Soros, Michael Moore, Bill Moyers, and Noam Chomsky. Moreover the cultural left includes organizations such as the American Civil Liberties Union, the National Organization for Women, People for the American Way, Planned Parenthood, Human Rights Watch, and moveon.org.
Guess not.
But isn't having your parents buy you a car socialism? :thinking
Post by: Transhuman on August 17, 2020, 09:59:41 AM
Post by: naff on August 17, 2020, 06:53:20 PM
only the worst, dumbest parts of left discourse make it this far
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1295457067831119872
FDR WAS A PART OF THE PMC SNAKE!
(http://media.gamespy.com/columns/image/nov01_planetfargo_Snake-Otacon.jpg)
Post by: naff on August 17, 2020, 06:59:15 PM
Post by: shosta on August 17, 2020, 07:33:09 PM
Post by: curly on August 17, 2020, 08:10:34 PM
:thinking
Post by: curly on August 17, 2020, 08:19:37 PM
tbh, i really don't get that iglesias tweet but seeing "pmc" in reference to educated upper classes bred to effectively manage us just makes me think of mgs. who/what ivy league profs is he referencing as being concerned about these people "infiltrating" political movements? :brain :doge
Basically the DSA (Democratic Socialists of America) has a membership that is widely believed to be whiter and has more education than the working class as a whole which is understandably a source of much angst and self-criticism when your politics is centered around the emancipation and self-determination of the working class. Matt Yglesias, who believes that politics should be centered around the wisdom of highly educated dipshits like himself, thinks this angst is silly.
Post by: shosta on August 17, 2020, 08:21:34 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/nikhil_palsingh/status/1295088241964724224I dunno who any of these people are, am I missing out?
:thinking
Post by: curly on August 17, 2020, 08:32:36 PM
Post by: shosta on August 17, 2020, 08:38:35 PM
I'm certain you've heard of Adolph Reed before considering how often he gets name dropped by Amber Lee Frost and friendsI've only read one of her essays before, sorry. I don't even know what her political positions are tbh
Post by: curly on August 17, 2020, 08:41:38 PM
A lot of Frost's ideas come from Reed. For example the preeminence of class, the need for a labor party, community is bad.
Post by: shosta on August 17, 2020, 08:42:04 PM
Post by: curly on August 17, 2020, 08:44:53 PM
Also Reed was recently disinvited from giving a speech to NYC DSA because of his criticisms of Black Lives Matter and the New York Times wrote a story about it because the CIA ordered them to play up divisions in American socialist movement.
Post by: shosta on August 17, 2020, 08:47:37 PM
Post by: Mandark on August 17, 2020, 09:16:42 PM
Adolph Reed is who Optimus would have constantly namechecked except he doesn't read anything.
Post by: shosta on August 17, 2020, 09:44:47 PM
Post by: curly on August 17, 2020, 09:52:12 PM
QuoteThey readily accept the brute reality of America’s racial history and of racism’s toll. They argue, however, that the problems now bedeviling America — such as wealth inequality, police brutality and mass incarceration — affect Black and brown Americans, but also large numbers of working class and poor white Americans.
The most powerful progressive movements, they say, take root in the fight for universal programs. That was true of the laws that empowered labor organizing and established mass jobs programs during the New Deal, and it’s true of the current struggles for free public college tuition, a higher minimum wage, reworked police forces and single-payer health care.
NYT read settlers
Edit: I'm sure their spotlight of Adolf Reed, Cornel West and Bhaskar as well as the "class first" politics they're supposed to represent is genuine
You can choose race or you can choose class and once you choose you're locked into that build.
Post by: Tripon on August 17, 2020, 11:34:04 PM
:dead
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 18, 2020, 12:16:53 AM
Post by: team filler on August 18, 2020, 12:23:03 AM
True.https://twitter.com/Lunalore/status/1295561325280727040
this dumb bitch tho :rofl
Post by: Tripon on August 18, 2020, 02:54:05 AM
Post by: VomKriege on August 18, 2020, 04:00:49 AM
Post by: Mandark on August 18, 2020, 07:54:40 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 18, 2020, 11:10:48 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1295804684670832642
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 19, 2020, 12:53:52 AM
Post by: EightBitNate on August 19, 2020, 01:03:58 AM
Post by: Rufus on August 19, 2020, 10:37:56 AM
Predictions?Let's fucking go:
twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1295804684670832642
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY16OQY21DE
Post by: shosta on August 19, 2020, 01:05:50 PM
Post by: curly on August 19, 2020, 01:06:45 PM
The dum dums at state schools don't know what misogyny means
Jonathan Bait
Yglesias baits
Chait can't help himself
Post by: curly on August 19, 2020, 01:10:36 PM
Post by: Mandark on August 19, 2020, 01:18:56 PM
If the idea is that campus liberals become so immersed in jargon they can't effectively communicate to other audiences, weird to single out the most popular and media-savvy House backbencher in maybe forever.
Post by: curly on August 19, 2020, 01:21:20 PM
Post by: shosta on August 19, 2020, 01:29:01 PM
Those words AOC used were really not obscure.
(https://i.imgur.com/ZfgWAqz.png)
:dead I hate everything
Post by: curly on August 19, 2020, 01:30:39 PM
Post by: Oblivion on August 19, 2020, 02:59:19 PM
https://twitter.com/jonathanchait/status/1296063864388431874
The dum dums at state schools don't know what misogyny meansJonathan Bait
Yglesias baits
Chait can't help himself
dat ratio :whoo :whew
Post by: Oblivion on August 19, 2020, 02:59:32 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 19, 2020, 03:01:46 PM
Also going to assume that Chait is not up to date on the lingo kids these days are using (as evidenced above)
Chait just needs to brush up on his ligma.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 19, 2020, 03:32:50 PM
https://twitter.com/jonathanchait/status/1296063864388431874
I'd feel offended at this tweet if my four years at a small, regional university had taught me what any of this meant.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 19, 2020, 06:20:07 PM
Predictions?
https://mobile.twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1295804684670832642
It’s happening!
https://mobile.twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1296155509108678656
Post by: shosta on August 19, 2020, 06:23:13 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 19, 2020, 06:32:26 PM
(https://i.gifer.com/9lyB.gif)
I was thinking he should team up with Jacob Wohl since I haven’t heard from him in a while, but he’s been busy.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kgNXxzGihvQ
https://mobile.twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/1273343746797719552
I love that his grift has evolved to using computer generated people to accuse people of murder.
Post by: shosta on August 19, 2020, 06:53:20 PM
.me trying to read this post
(https://wompampsupport.azureedge.net/fetchimage?siteId=7575&v=2&jpgQuality=100&width=700&url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.kym-cdn.com%2Fentries%2Ficons%2Ffacebook%2F000%2F025%2F867%2FScreen_Shot_2018-04-06_at_10.45.01_AM.jpg)
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 19, 2020, 07:43:30 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 19, 2020, 08:01:02 PM
https://twitter.com/Moshe_Hoffman/status/1295938205229838337
https://twitter.com/Moshe_Hoffman/status/1295938213287059457
https://twitter.com/Moshe_Hoffman/status/1295938219016519680
Sir, this is a Wendy’s.
Post by: team filler on August 19, 2020, 08:02:02 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 19, 2020, 08:07:18 PM
I can't find it right now, but the "press conference" that Jacob Wohl did sometime last year where people were just yelling at him and throwing donuts was pretty great.
Pretty sure it’s this one about Pelosi being an opioid addict and Cruz being a swinger. (It is, donut throwing at 5 minutes in)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qtCUwtINZlg
This was the last one I saw since I figured they got told to stop doing it cause of the air horns going off throughout and one of his neighbors having a breakdown at the end.
Post by: Mandark on August 20, 2020, 04:07:58 AM
Post by: team filler on August 20, 2020, 04:24:21 AM
at 1:38:30 "big fat pony hog" :rogan :biden
Post by: Oblivion on August 20, 2020, 10:45:43 AM
Post by: Brehvolution on August 20, 2020, 10:54:59 AM
Predictions?
https://mobile.twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1295804684670832642
It’s happening!
https://mobile.twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1296155509108678656
https://twitter.com/Tom_Winter/status/1296440877620109317
Post by: VomKriege on August 20, 2020, 11:42:20 AM
Post by: Oblivion on August 20, 2020, 12:17:03 PM
https://twitter.com/Jezebel/status/1296450097040039938
Post by: Transhuman on August 20, 2020, 12:20:14 PM
Post by: EchoRin on August 20, 2020, 12:29:08 PM
:idont
Really, this just reinforces that J Beep is a dumbass.
Post by: VomKriege on August 20, 2020, 05:20:51 PM
Post by: shosta on August 20, 2020, 05:25:13 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 20, 2020, 05:29:31 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 20, 2020, 06:25:52 PM
It’s happening!
https://mobile.twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1296155509108678656
You hate to see it, but Giuliani delivered the biggest scoop of all time.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
spoiler (click to show/hide)
JK he just got two doctors to say Biden has dementia :boring :snore :cmonson
https://mobile.twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1296531518547021830
Kinda rich coming from a guy who forgets twitter isn’t google.
https://mobile.twitter.com/RPDtweets/status/1295723846537019395
https://mobile.twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1296531518547021830
Kinda rich coming from a guy who forgets twitter isn’t google.
https://mobile.twitter.com/RPDtweets/status/1295723846537019395
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Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 20, 2020, 06:28:20 PM
https://twitter.com/dpovey1/status/1296294375987662848
Wow it's weird seeing people from my corner of the universe. If you haven't read the story on this guy its worth a look. He also used to be one of the biggest names in Speech Recognition. My friends tell stories about him being a giant cunt even back in the day. He also decided to basically rename the Hamming window after himself in his own source code.
Post by: naff on August 20, 2020, 06:30:12 PM
fact check: https://twitter.com/annakhachiyan/status/1296451243808829441
what! loomer looks like she got a face lift after melting a mike myers mask onto her skin
Post by: Nintex on August 20, 2020, 06:31:12 PM
Rudy is just drunk thoIt’s happening!
https://mobile.twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1296155509108678656
You hate to see it, but Giuliani delivered the biggest scoop of all time.spoiler (click to show/hide)spoiler (click to show/hide)JK he just got two doctors to say Biden has dementia :boring :snore :cmonson
https://mobile.twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1296531518547021830
Kinda rich coming from a guy who forgets twitter isn’t google.
https://mobile.twitter.com/RPDtweets/status/1295723846537019395[close][close]
Post by: BIONIC on August 20, 2020, 06:52:39 PM
fact check: https://twitter.com/annakhachiyan/status/1296451243808829441
what! loomer looks like she got a face lift after melting a mike myers mask onto her skin
:drool
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 20, 2020, 06:57:15 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/northworstsem/status/1296246700802281472
Post by: BIONIC on August 20, 2020, 07:10:22 PM
https://youtu.be/zqO8Yh5Ngqg
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 20, 2020, 07:19:36 PM
Falwell Jr. doing well.
https://mobile.twitter.com/northworstsem/status/1296246700802281472
:juicy
Post by: shosta on August 21, 2020, 01:26:16 AM
https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/1296654224827092993
Post by: benjipwns on August 21, 2020, 02:10:37 AM
https://twitter.com/rosemcgowan/status/1296655667063861249
https://twitter.com/rosemcgowan/status/1296657197250818048
https://twitter.com/rosemcgowan/status/1296662509554892800
Post by: VomKriege on August 21, 2020, 02:28:28 AM
the second tweet is even better :lol
https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/1296654224827092993
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/597257f4e580e7619b3415af405484a3/tenor.gif?itemid=17579879)
Read Settlers ! Come on man ! :biden
Post by: Transhuman on August 21, 2020, 02:31:24 AM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 21, 2020, 04:57:04 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/mmfa/status/1296895498658500610
Post by: EchoRin on August 21, 2020, 05:43:00 PM
https://youtu.be/LKfDSMkmqAY
Post by: Tripon on August 21, 2020, 07:43:47 PM
Post by: Mandark on August 21, 2020, 08:59:15 PM
Post by: curly on August 21, 2020, 09:18:32 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 21, 2020, 10:18:50 PM
Post by: shosta on August 21, 2020, 10:23:26 PM
Yes but what do they have that produces valuehttps://youtu.be/2uKLTtVqQpE
Post by: VomKriege on August 22, 2020, 05:10:40 AM
serious meme discussion
https://youtu.be/LKfDSMkmqAY
ThE lEfT cAnT mEmE :wiseau
(https://i.imgur.com/itWKvuD.jpg)
https://youtu.be/ChQXkfRQzmQ
Post by: VomKriege on August 22, 2020, 05:19:33 AM
:brain
Post by: Nintex on August 22, 2020, 06:53:00 AM
Yes, I can believe it.
Post by: EchoRin on August 22, 2020, 08:55:07 AM
Well, this is the best post I've made all week.
edit: grabbed a better version instead of the google preview crap that makes the jpeg a webp file or whatever crap which makes it useless when trying to save to your computer.
Post by: Transhuman on August 22, 2020, 09:51:57 AM
Post by: Nintex on August 22, 2020, 01:57:58 PM
Post by: VomKriege on August 22, 2020, 02:09:35 PM
Post by: VomKriege on August 22, 2020, 02:47:32 PM
Post by: Rufus on August 22, 2020, 04:21:37 PM
Post by: curly on August 22, 2020, 05:31:24 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/onesarahjones/status/1297233172976082945
Would it be homophobic to note how Glenn seems to be drawn to troubled young men beset by woke mobs
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 22, 2020, 07:15:37 PM
Post by: Tripon on August 22, 2020, 07:18:50 PM
https://twitter.com/gootecks/status/1297301924073504768
https://twitter.com/gootecks/status/1297303547579523072
https://twitter.com/gootecks/status/1297278633304682496
https://twitter.com/gootecks/status/1297281465130995712
https://twitter.com/gootecks/status/1297289077289447424
https://twitter.com/gootecks/status/1297282748709658624
https://twitter.com/gootecks/status/1297287192532811776
https://twitter.com/JustinWong/status/1297291374299996160
Gootecks has evolved into wanktecks.
Post by: nudemacusers on August 22, 2020, 08:04:47 PM
Post by: shosta on August 22, 2020, 09:35:51 PM
this thread needs Dave Portnoy
Post by: Mandark on August 22, 2020, 10:04:27 PM
Would it be homophobic to note how Glenn seems to be drawn to troubled young men beset by woke mobs
Feels like we're due for a reckoning on the Matthew Hale stuff.
Post by: curly on August 23, 2020, 12:02:57 AM
Post by: Nintex on August 23, 2020, 06:41:36 AM
Post by: VomKriege on August 23, 2020, 06:48:32 AM
Post by: nudemacusers on August 23, 2020, 08:26:02 AM
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1296518855691390977This coming from Ben Shapiro :existential
Post by: Nintex on August 23, 2020, 08:36:55 AM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
:crowdlaff :girlaff
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Post by: team filler on August 23, 2020, 02:07:25 PM
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1296518855691390977does this apply to palestinians :curious
Post by: curly on August 23, 2020, 02:21:40 PM
This kid's got a future
Post by: shosta on August 23, 2020, 02:25:45 PM
Post by: curly on August 23, 2020, 02:33:25 PM
The whole thing seems so stupid because yes of course you shouldn't hold against someone their past actions forever, especially if they were a minor but...he's 19. As others have said if you aren't judging him on his actions when he was a minor then you've got a year to work with.
Post by: shosta on August 23, 2020, 02:42:57 PM
Post by: curly on August 23, 2020, 02:45:07 PM
Post by: Nintex on August 23, 2020, 02:45:58 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Aaron4KS37/status/1297413515863625728And this is how you get lifelong conservatives :rejoice
This kid's got a future
Post by: shosta on August 23, 2020, 02:50:59 PM
*The Kansas House of RepresentativesTHIS is what the drama's over? :heh everyone should log the fuck off
Post by: curly on August 23, 2020, 02:59:43 PM
Post by: shosta on August 23, 2020, 03:06:21 PM
Reed also was a founder of the US Labor partyThis is the Lyndon LaRouche Party? :heh :heh :heh
Post by: team filler on August 23, 2020, 03:14:08 PM
Uhh how else is the left going to learn to stop falling for absurd sex panicsbiden, trump and clinton before them all proved that shid don't matter to the majority :trumps they had to manufacture some shid with warren against bern dawg he was so clean and still it didn't matter to the majority :lol
all you have to do is not give a fuck and be good for the rich and empire :karen
Post by: curly on August 23, 2020, 03:59:51 PM
Reed also was a founder of the US Labor partyThis is the Lyndon LaRouche Party? :heh :heh :heh
Oops not the US Pabor party, a Labor Party that would be from the US. Also not the one from 1919. The US has had a lot of failed Labor parties.
Post by: shosta on August 23, 2020, 04:11:17 PM
this is why democratic centralism exists
Post by: curly on August 23, 2020, 04:39:29 PM
A History of the American Left
Post by: Tripon on August 23, 2020, 06:26:57 PM
Mandark can't stop.me posting quality gootecks content.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 23, 2020, 07:21:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po4adxJxqZk
A History of the American Left
:juicy
Post by: Mandark on August 23, 2020, 07:43:34 PM
Greenwald's husband needs to limit his screen time or something.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 23, 2020, 11:14:03 PM
Post by: Mandark on August 23, 2020, 11:15:55 PM
https://twitter.com/PerBylund/status/1297537829615149058
The immortal science of Misesm-Lugwigism.
Post by: curly on August 23, 2020, 11:30:53 PM
Missed the part of the Coleman saga where Greenwald said it was a way of keeping working class people from running for office (because the proletariat loves doing revenge porn?).
Greenwald's husband needs to limit his screen time or something.
His husband used to unplug his router, he might need to start doing that again.
Post by: VomKriege on August 23, 2020, 11:43:43 PM
Missed the part of the Coleman saga where Greenwald said it was a way of keeping working class people from running for office (because the proletariat loves doing revenge porn?).
Greenwald's husband needs to limit his screen time or something.
His husband used to unplug his router, he might need to start doing that again.
Are ya winning, Glenn ?
Post by: benjipwns on August 24, 2020, 02:46:13 AM
Post by: VomKriege on August 24, 2020, 02:52:13 AM
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1296518855691390977
Post by: BIONIC on August 24, 2020, 02:54:26 AM
This is the part where I note how Glenn's ignored multiple family dinners to argue with people on Twitter.
Sounds like the average bore poster tbh
Post by: Rufus on August 24, 2020, 09:02:48 AM
Post by: Tripon on August 24, 2020, 03:04:17 PM
https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1297949988526465032
https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1297960753593450496
Matt Walsh having a normal one.
Post by: Transhuman on August 24, 2020, 03:23:42 PM
Post by: curly on August 24, 2020, 03:25:49 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 24, 2020, 03:30:28 PM
I have Infinite Jest because it was $2 and it has a lot of pages and I felt like it would make good tinder. And Ham on Rye is a good book.
It's okay, don't let the matriarchy tell you what you can't read. Stand up for yourself.
Post by: Transhuman on August 24, 2020, 03:43:37 PM
I have Infinite Jest because it was $2 and it has a lot of pages and I felt like it would make good tinder. And Ham on Rye is a good book.
It's okay, don't let the matriarchy tell you what you can't read. Stand up for yourself.
I'm not going to let some pretentious twitter twerp reverse-psychology me into reading more literature.
Post by: EightBitNate on August 24, 2020, 03:45:24 PM
https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1297947032305324032
Other countries don’t know BBT is cringe? That’s cringe within itself.
Post by: EchoRin on August 24, 2020, 03:46:50 PM
https://twitter.com/MchughJess/status/1297908630986076166
I'd like to get to the bottom of how this may be problematic if these books are on a man's shelf as it would be a different story if this was a woman's shelf containing these things (to some degree. Ayn Rand is a run for the hills scenario regardless of gender.)
1. I actually don't know. Never read any David Foster Wallace. Committed suicide is all I know and that I guess he was a writer that bent "the rulez" or something in literature. Long story short, not sure what male caricature is associated with DFW obsession.
2. Hemingway is problematic masculinity? Probably not something to overthink if you are a man over 40 who loves Hemingway, but maybe you got some odd masculinity takes if you are obsessed with Hemingway's form of masculinity and were born after 1980?
3. Bukowski. Never read him. I just know he said some weird shit to Flea (a racist remark when Flea told him he loved basketball :-\). Toxic masculinity I suppose is the issue here?
4. Rand. Libertarian bullshalaka
5. Goethe. I have no idea. Frankly I only know of him. Not even a single work comes to mind. Would love to know why Goethe on a man's book shelf would raise red flags.
6. Might be a pedo fuck
7. To be blunt, I never heard of this book nor the author. Sorry for being an illiterate imbecile. So what is the issue with this book in terms of modern masculine thought?
Post by: Nintex on August 24, 2020, 03:49:17 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 24, 2020, 03:50:47 PM
Post by: Transhuman on August 24, 2020, 03:51:24 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
One time there was a bull and his name was not Ferdinand and he cared nothing for flowers. He loved to fight and he fought with all the other bulls of his own age, or any age, and he was a champion.
His horns were as solid as wood and they were as sharply pointed as the quill of a porcupine. They hurt him, at the base, when he fought and he did not care at all. His neck muscles lifted in a great lump that is called in Spanish the morillo and this morillo lifted like a great hill when he was ready to fight. He was always ready to fight and his coat was black and shining and his eyes were clear.
Anything made him want to fight and he would fight with deadly seriousness exactly as some people eat or read or go to church. Each time he fought he fought to kill and the other bulls were not afriad of him because they came of good blood and were not afraid. But they had no wish to provoke him. Nor did they wish to fight him.
He was not a bully nor was he wicked, but he liked to fight as men might like to sing or to be the King or the President. He never thought at all. Fighting was his obligation and his duty and his joy.
He fought on the stony, high ground. He fought under the cork-oak trees and he fought in the good pasture by the river. He walked fifteen miles each day from the river to the high, stony ground and he would fight any bull that looked at him. Still he was never angry.
That is not really true, for he was angry inside himself. But he did not know why, because he could not think. He was very noble and he loved to fight.
So what happened to him? The man who owned him, if anyone can own such an animal, knew what a great bull he was and still he was worried because this bull cost him so much money by fighting with other bulls. Each bull was worth over one thousand dollars and after they had fought the great bull they were worth less than two hundred dollars and sometimes less than that.
So the man, who was a good man, decided that he would keep the blood of the bull in all of his stock rather than send him to the ring to be killed. So he selected him for breeding.
But this bull was a strange bull. When they first turned him into the pasture with the breeding cows, he saw one who was young and beautiful and slimmer and better muscled and shinier and more lovely than all the others. So, since he could not fight, he fell in love with her and paid no attention to any of the others. He only wanted to be with her, and the others meant nothing to him at all.
The man who owned the bull ranch hoped that the bull would change, or learn, or be different than he was. But the bull was the same and he loved whom he loved and no one else. He only wanted to be with her, and the others meant nothing to him at all.
So the man sent him away with five other bulls to be killed in the ring, and at least the bull could fight, even though he was faithful. He fought wonderfully and everyone admired him and the man who killed him admired him the most. But the fighting jacket of the man who killed him and who is called the matador was wet through by the end, and his mouth was very dry.
"Que toro más bravo," the matador said as he handed his sword to his sword handler. He handed it with the hilt up and the blade dripping with the blood from the heart of the brave bull who no longer had any problems of any kind and was being dragged out of the ring by four horses.
"Yes. He was the one the Marqués of Villamayor had to get rid of because he was faithful," the sword handler, who knew everything, said.
"Perhaps we should all be faithful," the matador said.
His horns were as solid as wood and they were as sharply pointed as the quill of a porcupine. They hurt him, at the base, when he fought and he did not care at all. His neck muscles lifted in a great lump that is called in Spanish the morillo and this morillo lifted like a great hill when he was ready to fight. He was always ready to fight and his coat was black and shining and his eyes were clear.
Anything made him want to fight and he would fight with deadly seriousness exactly as some people eat or read or go to church. Each time he fought he fought to kill and the other bulls were not afriad of him because they came of good blood and were not afraid. But they had no wish to provoke him. Nor did they wish to fight him.
He was not a bully nor was he wicked, but he liked to fight as men might like to sing or to be the King or the President. He never thought at all. Fighting was his obligation and his duty and his joy.
He fought on the stony, high ground. He fought under the cork-oak trees and he fought in the good pasture by the river. He walked fifteen miles each day from the river to the high, stony ground and he would fight any bull that looked at him. Still he was never angry.
That is not really true, for he was angry inside himself. But he did not know why, because he could not think. He was very noble and he loved to fight.
So what happened to him? The man who owned him, if anyone can own such an animal, knew what a great bull he was and still he was worried because this bull cost him so much money by fighting with other bulls. Each bull was worth over one thousand dollars and after they had fought the great bull they were worth less than two hundred dollars and sometimes less than that.
So the man, who was a good man, decided that he would keep the blood of the bull in all of his stock rather than send him to the ring to be killed. So he selected him for breeding.
But this bull was a strange bull. When they first turned him into the pasture with the breeding cows, he saw one who was young and beautiful and slimmer and better muscled and shinier and more lovely than all the others. So, since he could not fight, he fell in love with her and paid no attention to any of the others. He only wanted to be with her, and the others meant nothing to him at all.
The man who owned the bull ranch hoped that the bull would change, or learn, or be different than he was. But the bull was the same and he loved whom he loved and no one else. He only wanted to be with her, and the others meant nothing to him at all.
So the man sent him away with five other bulls to be killed in the ring, and at least the bull could fight, even though he was faithful. He fought wonderfully and everyone admired him and the man who killed him admired him the most. But the fighting jacket of the man who killed him and who is called the matador was wet through by the end, and his mouth was very dry.
"Que toro más bravo," the matador said as he handed his sword to his sword handler. He handed it with the hilt up and the blade dripping with the blood from the heart of the brave bull who no longer had any problems of any kind and was being dragged out of the ring by four horses.
"Yes. He was the one the Marqués of Villamayor had to get rid of because he was faithful," the sword handler, who knew everything, said.
"Perhaps we should all be faithful," the matador said.
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Post by: EchoRin on August 24, 2020, 03:56:52 PM
Post by: Transhuman on August 24, 2020, 04:03:28 PM
Post by: curly on August 24, 2020, 04:07:05 PM
Well go on. Why might Ernest be a possible red flag on a man's bookshelf?
Hemingway's shtick is macho to the point of parody
Post by: team filler on August 24, 2020, 04:21:20 PM
Well go on. Why might Ernest be a possible red flag on a man's bookshelf?(https://i.imgur.com/iUOSGs0.jpg) :stahp
Post by: EchoRin on August 24, 2020, 04:21:53 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 24, 2020, 04:23:34 PM
Well go on. Why might Ernest be a possible red flag on a man's bookshelf?(https://i.imgur.com/iUOSGs0.jpg) :stahp
It's Robin Williams in that picture, Epstein is just a photoshop. :comeon
Post by: BIONIC on August 24, 2020, 04:46:32 PM
Well go on. Why might Ernest be a possible red flag on a man's bookshelf?(https://i.imgur.com/iUOSGs0.jpg) :stahp
Ernest Goes to
Post by: Nintex on August 24, 2020, 04:47:45 PM
ARRESTED AND EXECUTED
Post by: team filler on August 24, 2020, 05:04:41 PM
Post by: EchoRin on August 24, 2020, 08:43:30 PM
Post by: Tripon on August 24, 2020, 09:51:31 PM
Post by: Mandark on August 24, 2020, 10:08:37 PM
1. I actually don't know. Never read any David Foster Wallace. Committed suicide is all I know and that I guess he was a writer that bent "the rulez" or something in literature. Long story short, not sure what male caricature is associated with DFW obsession.
Infinite Jest has a reputation like Gravity's Rainbow or James Joyce's Ulysses: really difficult books that a ton of people buy and never actually read. I think the idea is that it signals obnoxious intellectual pretension.
DFW's inclusion is a bit ironic since he wrote a famous takedown (https://observer.com/1997/10/john-updike-champion-literary-phallocrat-drops-one-is-this-finally-the-end-for-magnificent-narcissists/) of John Updike, Norman Mailer, and Philip Roth, who would have been shoe-ins for this sort of list if you compiled it 25 years ago.
Post by: benjipwns on August 25, 2020, 01:41:40 AM
https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer/status/1297787924348461057
Post by: Nintex on August 25, 2020, 03:58:45 AM
Post by: team filler on August 25, 2020, 05:18:47 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 25, 2020, 05:24:46 PM
Post by: Tripon on August 25, 2020, 05:26:19 PM
https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/1298328529042468864
https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/1298330558175383552
Post by: team filler on August 25, 2020, 05:33:02 PM
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Post by: team filler on August 25, 2020, 05:38:33 PM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on August 25, 2020, 11:05:49 PM
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Post by: jakefromstatefarm on August 26, 2020, 12:57:56 AM
Post by: shosta on August 26, 2020, 12:59:07 AM
As others have said if you aren't judging him on his actions when he was a minor then you've got a year to work with.turns out that's probably too long a timeframe too
Quote from: https://theintercept.com/2020/08/25/aaron-coleman-ex-girlfriend-assault/
Passow’s relationship with Coleman ran into trouble quickly, even as she remained impressed by the drive of the young political candidate, and the two spoke of starting a life together. According to Passow, one particular incident irreparably broke their relationship. In a hot tub at an Airbnb in Kansas City, she said, the two were discussing Coleman’s interest in a threesome on December 27, 2019. Passow said it wasn’t her thing, but maybe as a birthday present she’d break up with him for just one day and he could do one. Coleman didn’t like the joke, she recalled. “He sat there for a few seconds, then he jumped on top of me, put his hands around my throat and started squeezing, and slapped me three times, and said ‘I don’t know where the fuck you think you’re going,’” Passow recalled, and said she pushed him off of her.
Post by: shosta on August 26, 2020, 01:02:17 AM
the claim that starbucks is “entirely dependent” on a “marxist framework” when they post pro-blm on their social media didnt trip any alarms for you?I'm don't know what's real or what's not anymore. My detector is completely broken
Post by: Nintex on August 26, 2020, 04:23:28 AM
https://twitter.com/AngryJoeShow/status/1298530778708619267 (https://twitter.com/AngryJoeShow/status/1298530778708619267)
Post by: Oblivion on August 26, 2020, 04:36:26 AM
Post by: Nintex on August 26, 2020, 04:44:08 AM
Post by: Mandark on August 26, 2020, 06:35:56 AM
https://web.archive.org/web/20200818071225/https://quillette.com/2020/08/16/the-challenge-of-marxism/
Explains Marxism as the belief that classes exist and the ruling classes do oppression, without any discussion of capital, labor, surplus value, etc.
Concedes that Marx had some salient points about institutions being designed for the benefit of the ruling classes.
Example: The public school system.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 26, 2020, 07:35:13 AM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on August 26, 2020, 10:33:53 AM
Explains Marxism as the belief that classes exist and the ruling classes do oppression, without any discussion of capital, labor...he literally said marxism is when you believe there are groups and that one group has more power than the others.
it leaves open two moves. the first is decrying how left/liberalism is about ‘victimhood’. the second is pseudo-empathizing and playing up the pseudo-affinities with your reactionary hot take of choice; conceding without actually giving anything up. hazony is a founding member of that national conservative movement from the past two years, small wonder he opts for the latter.
Post by: Mandark on August 26, 2020, 11:02:16 AM
Post by: shosta on August 26, 2020, 12:11:08 PM
Post by: VomKriege on August 26, 2020, 12:26:38 PM
Post by: curly on August 26, 2020, 12:58:56 PM
Post by: VomKriege on August 26, 2020, 01:12:36 PM
A president in a presidential palace with guards and fancy pants protocol to make himself look important ?
:steel
https://youtu.be/sf2O8l7YqpE
8 years ago !?
How deep does this rabbit hole goes !?
Post by: Tripon on August 26, 2020, 01:29:11 PM
Matt Walsh having another normal one
Post by: VomKriege on August 26, 2020, 02:20:15 PM
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Adams said he wasn’t meaning to accuse Joe Biden of being possessed by Satan but that “it would look exactly like this” if he were.
(...)
“Did you know if you took the capital letter J—just imagine the capital letter J in your mind—now think of the next letter in ‘Joe.’ It’s an O. Now just move with your mind the O to the left until it’s on top of the J. It’s a backward six,”
https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/trump-world-favorite-persuader-scott-adams-sees-satanic-coincidences-in-biden-campaign/ (https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/trump-world-favorite-persuader-scott-adams-sees-satanic-coincidences-in-biden-campaign/)
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 26, 2020, 02:22:34 PM
https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1298666009621082113
Matt Walsh having another normal one
be a tradcath, brehs
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 26, 2020, 03:18:59 PM
QuoteAdams said he wasn’t meaning to accuse Joe Biden of being possessed by Satan but that “it would look exactly like this” if he were.
(...)
“Did you know if you took the capital letter J—just imagine the capital letter J in your mind—now think of the next letter in ‘Joe.’ It’s an O. Now just move with your mind the O to the left until it’s on top of the J. It’s a backward six,”
https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/trump-world-favorite-persuader-scott-adams-sees-satanic-coincidences-in-biden-campaign/ (https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/trump-world-favorite-persuader-scott-adams-sees-satanic-coincidences-in-biden-campaign/)
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“How many people or entities do you know who prefer to live underground? I can think of Satan living in Hell and—who would be another person who loves to live underground? Could it be basement-dwelling Biden?” Adams said. “I only know two people who are famous for living underground. Can you think of even a third one? I don’t think so.”
:what
Post by: VomKriege on August 26, 2020, 03:33:07 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 26, 2020, 03:37:40 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 26, 2020, 03:46:09 PM
I'd think Scott Adams is just a troll because his shit is always so wooden and ludicrous... But between what I know of him and how long he's been at it, I think he's serious.
I think he’s just a delusional millionaire who aligns with Trump cause his fans are the only ones who take the creator of dilbert seriously. Makes for some great content though.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1278111838090092544
Post by: BIONIC on August 26, 2020, 03:54:46 PM
The plot thickens.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 26, 2020, 04:02:25 PM
Post by: curly on August 26, 2020, 04:39:41 PM
Post by: VomKriege on August 26, 2020, 05:04:46 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilberito
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2b/DilBeriTO.jpg)QuoteThe product failed to catch on in the market, leading Adams "several years and several million dollars later" to sell off his intellectual property and exit the business. Adams himself noted "[t]he mineral fortification was hard to disguise, and because of the veggie and legume content, three bites of the Dilberito made you fart so hard your intestines formed a tail."[4] The New York Times noted the burrito "could have been designed only by a food technologist or by someone who eats lunch without much thought to taste."
I don't know if it's in the Wiki but Adams basically thought the Dilberito would become the blue jeans of food and that was in 1999.
https://www.bizjournals.com/eastbay/stories/1999/03/22/story8.html (https://www.bizjournals.com/eastbay/stories/1999/03/22/story8.html)
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"I was horrified to find that most things have almost no nutrition," said Adams, a practicing vegetarian for the last eight years.
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"I know that diet is the number one cause of health-related problems in the world," Adams said. "I figured I could put a dent in that problem and make some money at the same time."
The market research behind the concept was simple: "There's six billion people in the world, and they all eat," said Adams.
:science
Adams is also big on "affirmations" which is basically "positive thinking magic"
http://mindhacks.org/scott-adams-affirmations/135 (http://mindhacks.org/scott-adams-affirmations/135)
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The idea behind affirmations is that you simply write down your goals 15 times a day and somehow, as if by magic, coincidences start to build until you achieve your objective against all odds.
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Prior to my Dilbert success, I used affirmations on a string of hugely unlikely goals that all materialized in ways that seemed miraculous. (...)
But some of my goals involved neither hard work nor skill of any kind. I succeeded with those too, against all odds. Those are harder to explain, at least for me, since the most common explanation is that they are a delusion. I found my experience with affirmations fascinating and puzzling, and so I wrote about it.
It would seem fair to point out that the rest of the text is Adams walking back to more rational explanations... But he's equivocating a lot on the matter. It's not in here, probably in another book, but he said he used affirmations to beat a nasty medical test he was undergoing (cancer or somesuch).
It's not about being demeaning to those sort of beliefs specifically (Superstition in all forms is pretty widely shared), but more about how it's not just an absurd contrarian bit he's playing, even if he is peppering a lot of self disparaging sarcasm into it.
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 26, 2020, 05:09:33 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilberito
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2b/DilBeriTO.jpg)QuoteThe product failed to catch on in the market, leading Adams "several years and several million dollars later" to sell off his intellectual property and exit the business. Adams himself noted "[t]he mineral fortification was hard to disguise, and because of the veggie and legume content, three bites of the Dilberito made you fart so hard your intestines formed a tail."[4] The New York Times noted the burrito "could have been designed only by a food technologist or by someone who eats lunch without much thought to taste."
But yet authentic Mexican cuisine like Taco Bell continues to flourish. Obviously racism against Whites is responsible for the Dillberito's failure. :crybaby
Post by: team filler on August 26, 2020, 05:44:28 PM
Post by: shosta on August 26, 2020, 06:18:17 PM
https://twitter.com/SeanMcCarthyCom/status/1298617999537123328
https://twitter.com/SeanMcCarthyCom/status/1298620088539648000
This dude is the quintessential Type Of Guy who hates idpol so much it makes him say insane stuff like this :lol
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 26, 2020, 06:29:54 PM
I don't like to signal boost random freaks on Twitter
:gurl
but ...
:ufup
Post by: EchoRin on August 26, 2020, 06:40:53 PM
Did you find this smooth brain via this other tweet?
https://twitter.com/SeanMcCarthyCom/status/1297943317364211712
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 26, 2020, 06:44:34 PM
Post by: EchoRin on August 26, 2020, 06:59:25 PM
This poor guy needs to take a little break.
Just going through his feed he tweets nonstop and it all just feels like one big :gddr5
Have a wank or listen to some ASMR. Take a moment to breath in and out and drink some ginger ale.
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Post by: Oblivion on August 26, 2020, 07:07:50 PM
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on August 26, 2020, 07:56:20 PM
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GoetheEXCUSE ME
Post by: nudemacusers on August 26, 2020, 08:46:06 PM
makes u think
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 26, 2020, 09:11:16 PM
what the fuck is that even for
Clothes
Post by: benjipwns on August 26, 2020, 10:46:56 PM
Josef FritzlQuote“How many people or entities do you know who prefer to live underground? I can think of Satan living in Hell and—who would be another person who loves to live underground? Could it be basement-dwelling Biden?” Adams said. “I only know two people who are famous for living underground. Can you think of even a third one? I don’t think so.”
:what
Post by: VomKriege on August 27, 2020, 05:14:38 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/YrLFdmA.jpg)
Giving it a couple of days for the mask to fall off.
Post by: benjipwns on August 27, 2020, 06:00:28 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G62oPzl-FTs
Post by: Rufus on August 27, 2020, 07:07:35 AM
Quote from: r/lowderwithcrowder
Tim pool has been interesting to watch over the last 2 years as he slowly realizes the democrats are just snake oil salesmen
Quote from: r/lowderwithcrowder
It’s the same as his first they literally didn’t change the platform
Quote from: r/trump
Tim finally swallowed the Brain Force Plus.
- He had swallowed it a long time ago, but as slowly been showing the symptoms
Quote from: r/intellectualdarkweb
No one here is talking about the substance of Trump's 2nd term agenda instead just poisoning the well about the messenger. Personally I agree with Tim that the list of goals would be a strong path forward for our country.
Quote from: r/intellectualdarkweb
Tim embodies the qualities that every aspiring liberal, in the classical sense of the word, should hope to imitate. An openness to have discussions about any topic, no matter whether you agree with them or not, and change your mind according to the evidence you are presented.
Such a great journalist with integrity. So little of that in the media nowadays...
not directly related, but :teehee
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IDW rule: When someone is called a grifter, it means they gave someone the butthurt.
You all really need better vocabulary understanding. There is no grift with Pool. There's no grift with Rubin. Rubin admits he is more right leaning now. He is aging and his life is changing.
A grifter is someone like John Kasich who tries to embed himself with whatever he thinks will make him popular at the moment. He doesn't really stand for anything but his own political gain. Glen Beck was a grifter, but maybe he's more sincere now. I can't tell yet.
When Dave or Tim think something is bad, they truly think it is bad. They may end up being wrong, but they aren't deceiving or swindling people.
Quote from: r/nba
The disinformation campaign is telling the public there isn't real problems with mail in voting.
And if the push for mail voting was coming from the Right, then the press and Lebron would be against it.
Because they are not human beings anymore, but human creatures behaving in predictable ways to curated stimuli.
Your desire to downvote this is creature behavior. To rebelliously upvote it is creature behavior. Say something in response. Don't ask what the problems with mail in voting is because I would just search for articles which is the thing you should be doing instead of asking me to do it for you.
Quote from: r/intellectualdarkweb
Sam Seder and his ilk are terrible people who attack those more successful and those who are actively helping others. They are some of the worst type of humans you can get to before you reach the level of rapists, murderers and tyrants.
They deserve no apology for they are jealous, petty, miserable losers who want to drag the whole world down with them. Anyone breaking free from that or helping others is a threat to them.
Quote from: intellectualdarkweb
I miss Pool's live shoots. I watch less of his commentary stuff. I found his info on events he was actually at and experienced to be more interesting than him just recounting a news item for the day. However, he does prep himself for a topic. His Rogan appearance with Jack and his Twitter partner was great.
Rubin does interviews for a talk shot. He's a talk show host.
Here's the dishonest thing: Lesser creatures attack these two as though they are philosophers when they never claim to be. Be very wary of the people who are doing this. It comes from a place of smallness.
It's the same as when you hear "here comes another IDW grifter" said by someone to attack another person. You can be assured that the person making the accusation is trying to grift off the popularity of the IDW by lazily attacking them and hoping to get caught in the algo loops.
Remember, Pakman asked Pool how to get more views and Pool told him to be himself and not do the orange man bad thing.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 27, 2020, 07:15:46 AM
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1298739578052829184
(https://i.imgur.com/YrLFdmA.jpg)
Giving it a couple of days for the mask to fall off.
Ben Shapiro having to pretend to care about the NBA if they cancel the season will be a giggle though :stahp
Post by: Rufus on August 27, 2020, 07:35:18 AM
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I trust men's vibe creep of other men more than a woman's vibe.
The man's creep radar is based on actual danger. He doesn't care about the looks of the guy or the girl, he just senses that the guy is untrustworthy.
A woman's creep radar seems to go off and on depending on their situation and the attractiveness of the man. There's also manipulative people and proclaiming someone a creep or not creep can play into power games. A woman's sense of a man being creep will be taken more seriously or with more reaction than a general proclamation of someone being a creep. That can be abused by manipulative people.
This is just my view from my experience. I see men keep men they see as creeps away from positions of power with women while I've seen women interact with that same creep in various ways depending on what they think they get out of it.
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Sam Seder is the dishonest left.
I agree that the left needs to figure out how to be cool and funny again. Most of their stuff comes across as mean or pandering.
Post by: benjipwns on August 27, 2020, 07:50:43 AM
Quote from: https://www.outkick.com/career-politicians-who-created-systemic-unfairness-are-playing-lebron-and-his-disciples-for-suckers/
Today’s edition of BLM 101, Volume 5 will focus on the sports world’s reaction to the police shooting of Jacob Blake in Kenosha, Wisconsin. BLM 101 is dedicated to educating athletes on the true agenda and negative consequences of the Black Lives Matter movement. BLM 101 tries to avoid snark and ridicule. We ask that you share the link of this article with your favorite athlete.
...
A day after LeBron James declared that black people live in daily fear of police violence and that black men are targeted for death by police, his disciples backed him up en masse.
James is the Al Sharpton of sports, an agent of chaos working closely with politicians who use racial division to rally voter support. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and black ministers can no longer deliver black voters to polling booths. The task has now been handed to James, Colin Kaepernick and black athletes. It’s their job to inflame the emotions of black people and get us to vote for Joe Biden like our lives depended on it.
...
I’m referencing Democratic politicians because LeBron James and his disciples seem to believe the Democratic Party is going to save black people from the “systemic racism” found within the criminal justice system.
It’s a joke. The architects of the system are using LeBron James and athletes to point black people at the wrong target. The athletes are useful idiots. They’ve been talked into dedicating themselves to ensuring that career criminals are unharmed while resisting arrest and refusing to comply with police instructions.
...
King, LeBron, Doc Rivers, Michael Malone, the Toronto Raptors, the Detroit Lions, the NBA, the NFL and the woke sports media have all been incentivized to keep the focus on the lowest-hanging fruit — working-class cops.
This is what passes for speaking truth to power in the age of social media.
Blame the cops. Work to elect the career politicians who created the system.
If you want Jason Whitlock for your TV or radio show or podcast, contact gary@outkick.com.
Post by: VomKriege on August 27, 2020, 08:36:44 AM
If you want Jason Whitlock for your TV or radio show or podcast, contact gary@outkick.com.
Post by: VomKriege on August 27, 2020, 08:40:49 AM
We thought it was going to be virtual reality or sex robots but it was hoops all along.
Post by: Mandark on August 27, 2020, 08:48:54 AM
Post by: VomKriege on August 27, 2020, 08:50:24 AM
cigars and male friendship being in the same grouping is fantastic
Sometimes a cigar is just repressed male homoerotism.
Post by: Rufus on August 27, 2020, 08:51:17 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 27, 2020, 09:04:24 AM
Post by: VomKriege on August 27, 2020, 09:06:16 AM
getting cucked by the pool boy / paying him off / endorse Donald Trump
Falwell, my son.
Post by: VomKriege on August 27, 2020, 09:38:25 AM
Post by: Oblivion on August 27, 2020, 10:45:36 AM
Ben Shapiro needs to get in touch with Jason Whitlock :americanQuote from: https://www.outkick.com/career-politicians-who-created-systemic-unfairness-are-playing-lebron-and-his-disciples-for-suckers/Today’s edition of BLM 101, Volume 5 will focus on the sports world’s reaction to the police shooting of Jacob Blake in Kenosha, Wisconsin. BLM 101 is dedicated to educating athletes on the true agenda and negative consequences of the Black Lives Matter movement. BLM 101 tries to avoid snark and ridicule. We ask that you share the link of this article with your favorite athlete.
...
A day after LeBron James declared that black people live in daily fear of police violence and that black men are targeted for death by police, his disciples backed him up en masse.
James is the Al Sharpton of sports, an agent of chaos working closely with politicians who use racial division to rally voter support. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and black ministers can no longer deliver black voters to polling booths. The task has now been handed to James, Colin Kaepernick and black athletes. It’s their job to inflame the emotions of black people and get us to vote for Joe Biden like our lives depended on it.
...
I’m referencing Democratic politicians because LeBron James and his disciples seem to believe the Democratic Party is going to save black people from the “systemic racism” found within the criminal justice system.
It’s a joke. The architects of the system are using LeBron James and athletes to point black people at the wrong target. The athletes are useful idiots. They’ve been talked into dedicating themselves to ensuring that career criminals are unharmed while resisting arrest and refusing to comply with police instructions.
...
King, LeBron, Doc Rivers, Michael Malone, the Toronto Raptors, the Detroit Lions, the NBA, the NFL and the woke sports media have all been incentivized to keep the focus on the lowest-hanging fruit — working-class cops.
This is what passes for speaking truth to power in the age of social media.
Blame the cops. Work to elect the career politicians who created the system.
If you want Jason Whitlock for your TV or radio show or podcast, contact gary@outkick.com.
article is titled "BLM 101: CAREER POLITICIANS WHO CREATED SYSTEMIC UNFAIRNESS ARE PLAYING LEBRON AND HIS DISCIPLES FOR SUCKERS", yet if you read the article, it seems this dude is perfectly fine with said systemic unfairness.
also LOL @ acting like the cops don't support the current system, or that cops are the 'lowest hanging fruit'
Post by: Mandark on August 27, 2020, 11:01:08 AM
ie when BLM first became a thing he was telling everyone that making police wear body cameras was "the okeydoke" because it was really about expanding the surveillance state.
Post by: Oblivion on August 27, 2020, 11:57:50 AM
Whitlock's schtick is to criticize all liberal/left black activism, but ostensibly from the perspective of black empowerment. That makes his rhetoric a bit different from generic Candace Owens types.
ie when BLM first became a thing he was telling everyone that making police wear body cameras was "the okeydoke" because it was really about expanding the surveillance state.
:neogaf
Post by: VomKriege on August 27, 2020, 01:00:36 PM
Post by: shosta on August 27, 2020, 01:30:01 PM
Post by: Oblivion on August 27, 2020, 01:59:04 PM
https://twitter.com/NathanJRobinson/status/1298857750169030656
Post by: VomKriege on August 27, 2020, 02:54:51 PM
Didn't the President comment & people burn shoes they bought because some substitute QB had the audacity to kneel during the anthem ?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 27, 2020, 03:13:27 PM
Post by: VomKriege on August 27, 2020, 05:08:52 PM
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1298739578052829184
(https://i.imgur.com/YrLFdmA.jpg)
Giving it a couple of days for the mask to fall off.
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1299066423768047617
:rodney
Post by: EchoRin on August 27, 2020, 05:22:50 PM
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Post by: Oblivion on August 27, 2020, 06:27:44 PM
Post by: El Babua on August 27, 2020, 06:39:19 PM
He was the only white guy in the group so once he left, his boss (who was black) went on a rant - uttering the phrase, "CAC" a lot. First time I actually heard it from someone IRL. :dead
Post by: EchoRin on August 27, 2020, 06:41:12 PM
Before the flight home after an all-team meeting, me and my coworkers had a wank dad discussion where one particular guy started extolling the virtues of Steven Crowder and Ben Shapiro.
He was the only white guy in the group so once he left, his boss (who was black) went on a rant - uttering the phrase, "CAC" a lot. First time I actually heard it from someone IRL. :dead
:lol :bow :doggy :hyper
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 27, 2020, 10:10:06 PM
Post by: VomKriege on August 28, 2020, 05:53:12 AM
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 28, 2020, 09:08:31 AM
https://twitter.com/Yair_Rosenberg/status/1299138038635921408
:what
Post by: Mandark on August 28, 2020, 04:41:37 PM
Post by: team filler on August 28, 2020, 04:47:36 PM
Post by: EchoRin on August 28, 2020, 05:05:21 PM
Post by: Mandark on August 28, 2020, 05:12:47 PM
That Kelly guy is championing a dude who murdered two people?
A bunch of them are!
They're not treating this like the Heather Heyer murder at all, this kid's going to be a martyr for the right.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 28, 2020, 06:53:38 PM
That Kelly guy is championing a dude who murdered two people? :picard
He's a hero who defended his neighborhood from a roving band of anarchistic thug. :american
Post by: benjipwns on August 28, 2020, 07:20:20 PM
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It finally happened. We have lethal battles in the streets between the two tribes of our polarized politics. This week, a 17-year-old man, Kyle Rittenhouse, brought a rifle to Kenosha, Wisconsin, in order, it appears, to protect the businesses that were being burned down or ransacked by rioters after the police shooting of alleged rapist, Jacob Blake. In a series of skirmishes between Rittenhouse and BLM and Antifa activists on the streets of Kenosha, three men pursuing Rittenhouse were shot and two killed by the vigilante in what appears to be some kind of self-defense.
I’m doing my best to convey the gist of what happened — and there’s an excellent, detailed report of the incident from the NYT — without justifying any of it. No excuse for vigilantism; no excuse for looting, rioting and arson. The truth is: even a few minutes of chaos and violence can contain a universe of confusing events, motives and dynamics that are extremely hard to parse immediately. And yet it is the imperative of our current culture that we defend one side as blameless and the other as the source of all evil.
In the current chaos, I’ve come to appreciate Marcus Aurelius’s maxim that “The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” And I have to say I’m horribly conflicted on some issues. I’m supportive of attempts to interrogate the sins of the past, in particular the gruesome legacy of slavery and segregation, and their persistent impact on the present. And in that sense, I’m a supporter of the motives of the good folks involved with the Black Lives Matter movement. But I’m equally repelled by the insistent attempt by BLM and its ideological founders to malign and dismiss the huge progress we’ve made, to re-describe the American experiment in freedom as one utterly defined by racism, and to call the most tolerant country on the planet, with unprecedented demographic diversity, a form of “white supremacy”. I’m tired of hearing Kamala Harris say, as she did yesterday: “The reality is that the life of a black person in America has never been treated as fully human.” This is what Trump has long defended as “truthful hyperbole” — which is a euphemism for a lie.
But here’s one thing I have absolutely no conflict about. Rioting and lawlessness is evil. And any civil authority that permits, condones or dismisses violence, looting and mayhem in the streets disqualifies itself from any legitimacy. This comes first. If one party supports everything I believe in but doesn’t believe in maintaining law and order all the time and everywhere, I’ll back a party that does. In that sense, I’m a one-issue voter, because without order, there is no room for any other issue. Disorder always and everywhere begets more disorder; the minute the authorities appear to permit such violence, it is destined to grow. And if liberals do not defend order, fascists will.
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I find the interaction between some cops and vigilantes in Kenosha deeply, deeply disturbing. Non-college-educated white men make up a lot of the police forces and military in the US — and Trump has big margins of support among them, counts them as his own cops and soldiers, and signals that he will always have their back. As the far left has indiscriminately smeared the police, and promised to abolish or defund them, they have helped Trump co-opt them in a terrifying dynamic. As Trump was eulogizing a murdered policeman, the leftist mob outside was in the midst of a “Fuck The Police” demonstration. If the Dems want to fight an election on that choice — and some do — they’re engaged on a suicide mission.
And let’s be frank about this and call this by its name: this is very Weimar. The center has collapsed. Armed street gangs of far right and far left are at war on the streets. Tribalism is intensifying in every nook and cranny of the culture. The establishment right and mainstream left tolerate their respective extremes because they hate each other so much.
The pattern is textbook, if you learn anything from history: an economic crisis resulting in mass unemployment; the pent-up psychological disorders a long period of lockdown can and will unleash; a failure of nerve on the part of liberals to defend the values and institutions of liberal democracy, and of conservatives to keep their own ranks free of raw demagogues and bigots. But critically: a growing sense of disorder and violence and rioting as simply the background noise; and a sense that authorities do not have the strength or the stomach to restore order. What most people want in that kind of nerve-wracking instability is a figure who will come in and stamp it out. In Trump, we have someone who would happily trample any liberal democratic norm to do it. And the left seems to be all but begging him to do it — if only to prove them right.
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Yes, we still have an election. But barring a landslide victory for either party, it will be the beginning and not the end of the raw struggle for power in a fast-collapsing republic. In a close race, Trump will never concede, and if he is somehow forced to, he will mount a campaign from the outside to delegitimize the incoming president, backed by street-gangs and propaganda outfits. If Biden wins, we may have one last chance for the center to hold — and what few hopes I have rest on this.
But Biden, let’s face it, is weak and a party man to his core, and has surrendered to the far left at almost every single turn — from abortion to immigration to race. You’d be a fool I think, to believe he could resist their fanaticism in office, or that if he does, he won’t be toast in a struggle to succeed him. He remains the only choice in this election. But on the central question of civil order, he blew it last week and so did the Dems. Biden needs a gesture of real Sister Souljah clarity to put daylight between him and the violent left.
Post by: curly on August 28, 2020, 07:24:51 PM
Post by: Tripon on August 28, 2020, 08:28:20 PM
how much is that guy getting paid again :mjcry
Hill.TV and The Hill have big conservative money behind it. So likely well enough to tide him over until he wants to make a jump to network TV.
Post by: benjipwns on August 28, 2020, 08:41:46 PM
https://twitter.com/LLinWood/status/1299406924899856385
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https://twitter.com/LLinWood/status/1299494891597094913
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Post by: EchoRin on August 28, 2020, 09:41:28 PM
:lol :lol :lol
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 29, 2020, 11:02:09 AM
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 29, 2020, 12:29:55 PM
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/g5pn87/free-speech-crusader-steven-pinker-blocking-anyone-mentioning-his-epstein-ties?utm_source=reddit.com
:neogaf
Post by: benjipwns on August 30, 2020, 01:51:37 AM
Post by: team filler on August 30, 2020, 01:58:02 AM
might actually prefer mencia to rogan on stand up, dane cook over both of them
Post by: BIONIC on August 30, 2020, 01:59:05 AM
https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1299721477701406720
:brain
Post by: Oblivion on August 30, 2020, 03:12:12 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 30, 2020, 03:21:51 PM
Post by: Tripon on August 30, 2020, 03:55:03 PM
when rogan went after carlos mencia for stealing jokes ::) nobody stealing rogan's trash ass jokes :lol why was he so mad :confused
might actually prefer mencia to rogan on stand up, dane cook over both of them
One of Rogan's accusations was that Carlos Mencia was stealing from Bobby Lee, and Lee was opening for Mencia at the time. So it was picking on the weaker guy.
Post by: team filler on August 30, 2020, 04:24:16 PM
Post by: team filler on August 30, 2020, 04:32:37 PM
Post by: BIONIC on August 30, 2020, 04:53:07 PM
Post by: Transhuman on August 30, 2020, 05:16:46 PM
Post by: team filler on August 30, 2020, 05:30:03 PM
Post by: VomKriege on August 30, 2020, 11:33:31 PM
Post by: naff on August 31, 2020, 12:23:59 AM
https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1299415270210109440
Post by: VomKriege on August 31, 2020, 12:32:55 AM
The big trend among his species right now is the riots and media bias in the reporting, so I guess he'll just put himself in tow.
Post by: naff on August 31, 2020, 01:30:38 AM
https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1299721477701406720
im sure im forgetting some big events, but the only time i can think of in modern history where a group were targeted and killed en masse predominantly for political ideology and not race or religion was the massacre of communists by right wing paramilitarys in indonesia
edit: right, yeah missing a bunch of politicides https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-communist_mass_killings https://web.archive.org/web/20071030201259/http://www.cidcm.umd.edu/inscr/genocide/
Post by: Tripon on August 31, 2020, 10:09:36 AM
Post by: Mandark on August 31, 2020, 12:39:04 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 31, 2020, 01:00:28 PM
Post by: Nintex on August 31, 2020, 01:07:47 PM
Post by: team filler on August 31, 2020, 01:08:38 PM
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1300466213047296000zionists :neogaf ask ya boy if herd immunity is acceptable in tel aviv :maduro
Post by: Mandark on August 31, 2020, 03:11:34 PM
medicare, a great example of a program nobody on the left cares about or wants to expand
Post by: team filler on August 31, 2020, 03:14:26 PM
:biden
Post by: Transhuman on August 31, 2020, 04:39:57 PM
Post by: team filler on August 31, 2020, 05:03:36 PM
Post by: naff on August 31, 2020, 05:19:35 PM
Post by: BIONIC on August 31, 2020, 05:24:00 PM
you move to the country and discover half the people around you are addicted to oxy, fuck their cousins or both. wyd?
When in Rome :idont
Post by: naff on August 31, 2020, 05:39:32 PM
Post by: team filler on August 31, 2020, 06:17:13 PM
Post by: Mandark on August 31, 2020, 06:50:37 PM
https://twitter.com/KyleKashuv/status/1299931048340586499
love living on a farm in the middle of nowhere that's within walking distance of a public park
Post by: shosta on August 31, 2020, 07:02:13 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 31, 2020, 07:03:38 PM
Post by: Nintex on August 31, 2020, 07:03:57 PM
https://twitter.com/Yair_Rosenberg/status/1299138038635921408
Someone call these guys
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdNADS-XcAIAP5Z?format=jpg)
Post by: Mandark on August 31, 2020, 07:16:21 PM
Is this the virtue signalling I'm always hearing about?
Post by: team filler on August 31, 2020, 07:20:31 PM
Post by: naff on August 31, 2020, 07:47:42 PM
Post by: Mandark on August 31, 2020, 07:56:03 PM
https://twitter.com/KyleKashuv/status/1292811748895002624
hm, now I gotta consider that maybe he's a teen who already went through one traumatic experience and the dopamine hits from social media engagement aren't keeping up with pandemic depression and he's Going Through Some Shit
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but given that he was already an edgelord teen racist who's now a part of the rightwing media ecosystem and all its incentives and feedback, he's probably just gonna be shitty the rest of his life
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Post by: team filler on August 31, 2020, 08:05:59 PM
Post by: shosta on August 31, 2020, 08:17:01 PM
Post by: Oblivion on August 31, 2020, 08:25:10 PM
but it was a frappacino, not a latte, so i dunno if that counts :doge
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 31, 2020, 08:30:01 PM
I'm having a $6 Spanish latte right now... prefer this to farmwork tbh
That's cause you a soyboy.
Post by: shosta on August 31, 2020, 08:30:25 PM
:lol
Post by: shosta on August 31, 2020, 08:37:19 PM
That's cause you a soyboy.I'm 100% sure I could beat your ass you fucking Canadian freak
Post by: team filler on August 31, 2020, 08:40:20 PM
it's p good https://www.gotmatcha.com/organic-matcha-black-label/ :maduro
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 31, 2020, 08:42:27 PM
That's cause you a soyboy.I'm 100% sure I could beat your ass you fucking Canadian freak
Tough talk for a soyboy. I've been watching One Punch Man for the last 3 hours so I doubt it.
Post by: Mandark on August 31, 2020, 08:48:44 PM
Post by: shosta on August 31, 2020, 09:26:37 PM
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1300551255073447938https://twitter.com/SeanTrende/status/1300440559509700609
He even spells like a working class guy
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 31, 2020, 09:27:31 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 01, 2020, 12:01:20 AM
Post by: VomKriege on September 01, 2020, 12:44:41 AM
It’s spelled Wooster.
Coming home to woost.
Post by: naff on September 01, 2020, 12:47:08 AM
Post by: shosta on September 01, 2020, 12:53:31 AM
Post by: naff on September 01, 2020, 01:00:10 AM
Post by: naff on September 01, 2020, 01:13:47 AM
https://twitter.com/skoczela/status/1298684010823061507
https://twitter.com/skoczela/status/1298688980913881090
Post by: OnlyRegret on September 01, 2020, 01:15:29 AM
That's cause you a soyboy.I'm 100% sure I could beat your ass you fucking Canadian freak
Tough talk for a soyboy. I've been watching One Punch Man for the last 3 hours so I doubt it.
sit on him
Post by: benjipwns on September 01, 2020, 02:08:38 AM
The alpaca thing is confusing tho....of all the animals to raise on a farm. Not chickens/cows/pigs? Fucking alpacas? You gonna eat fleece for dinner?as naff noted there's a bit of a trendy thing to start alpaca farms, even though they're apparently way more costly and difficult to run profitably than anything resembling "regular" farming, hence why they're more of an upper class white trend and the related mockery since it's nowhere near as reasonable as just getting a chicken coop and buying $250 dresses for them off the internet
Post by: Mandark on September 01, 2020, 09:42:45 AM
What is Matt implying people should rethink (but won't)? That Markey isn't a worthwhile progressive candidate because people with college degrees vote for them in higher percentages vs. those without a degree? Really hate this entire argument and the constant use of the term "PMC". Reductive and boring.
That if you invited the PMC into a coalition their class interests would pull it to the right (and thus the left should only pursue a working-class coalition). Their support of Markey runs counter to that.
The PMC Twitter discourse was mostly primary fever, and people scouring the crosstabs of polls to show that Bernie represented more than just a candidacy. Or for some anti-idpol people a roundabout way to justify saying slurs.
Post by: Oblivion on September 01, 2020, 02:57:19 PM
Post by: curly on September 01, 2020, 04:06:26 PM
What is Matt implying people should rethink (but won't)? That Markey isn't a worthwhile progressive candidate because people with college degrees vote for them in higher percentages vs. those without a degree? Really hate this entire argument and the constant use of the term "PMC". Reductive and boring.
That if you invited the PMC into a coalition their class interests would pull it to the right (and thus the left should only pursue a working-class coalition). Their support of Markey runs counter to that.
The PMC Twitter discourse was mostly primary fever, and people scouring the crosstabs of polls to show that Bernie represented more than just a candidacy. Or for some anti-idpol people a roundabout way to justify saying slurs.
So is the class composition of a supporter base not worth discussing or what
Post by: Mandark on September 01, 2020, 04:34:06 PM
What is Matt implying people should rethink (but won't)? That Markey isn't a worthwhile progressive candidate because people with college degrees vote for them in higher percentages vs. those without a degree? Really hate this entire argument and the constant use of the term "PMC". Reductive and boring.
That if you invited the PMC into a coalition their class interests would pull it to the right (and thus the left should only pursue a working-class coalition). Their support of Markey runs counter to that.
The PMC Twitter discourse was mostly primary fever, and people scouring the crosstabs of polls to show that Bernie represented more than just a candidacy. Or for some anti-idpol people a roundabout way to justify saying slurs.
So is the class composition of a supporter base not worth discussing or what
Sure it can be!
Post by: naff on September 01, 2020, 06:13:54 PM
Post by: Tripon on September 01, 2020, 06:45:19 PM
Post by: Mandark on September 01, 2020, 07:38:57 PM
Right, I agree tbh. That said I disagree with the definition of the so-called pmc here, and I definitely don't think the polls Matt's referencing are a good indication that the working class supports Kennedy in a more meaningful way than Markey but hey, I'm just a dude without a degree.
Looking at the most recent Suffolk U poll (https://www.suffolk.edu/-/media/suffolk/documents/academics/research-at-suffolk/suprc/polls/massachusetts2/2020/8_27_2020_tables_pdftxt.pdf), Kennedy's clearly strongest among non-college, low income, and nonwhite voters (pages 1 & 41).
I didn't read Yggy's tweet as saying this should change how we think about Markey (he does WAY better among self-described liberals), but that people who've been saying PMC voters will anchor any coalition to centrist politics should rethink that premise.
Post by: Tripon on September 02, 2020, 10:35:16 AM
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 02, 2020, 03:09:52 PM
https://twitter.com/LemieuxLGM/status/1300980319936364549
https://twitter.com/perdricof/status/1300988377857241094
:nope
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on September 02, 2020, 03:29:45 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/ClipsDave/status/1301186582502805504
https://mobile.twitter.com/ClipsDave/status/1300954416229437441
Gotta love that a gay man understands straight sex better than Ben Shapiro.
Post by: team filler on September 02, 2020, 03:52:12 PM
Post by: Oblivion on September 02, 2020, 06:57:27 PM
Post by: EchoRin on September 02, 2020, 07:06:27 PM
Post by: Transhuman on September 02, 2020, 08:14:08 PM
The king has left his bunker :ohyeah
https://mobile.twitter.com/ClipsDave/status/1301186582502805504
Double standard? Whose standard? Democrats aren't the ones saying "marriage is sacred", or that being a cuckhold means you're weak and pathetic. The guy blew up his own con by railing against perverts while being one.
I will never understand you guys for hate-watching this stuff.
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 02, 2020, 09:17:17 PM
https://twitter.com/adamcarolla/status/1293773434753753088 (https://twitter.com/adamcarolla/status/1293773434753753088)
kinda makes you think
Post by: EchoRin on September 02, 2020, 10:02:35 PM
.My roommate is a Rogan-ite. Even has a JRE patch on a backpack :yuck
I will never understand you guys for hate-watching this stuff.
A few times a month he'll come to me with something starting by pointing out he heard it "while listening to Joe Rogan". Luckily he seems to not have fully succumbed to the school of Joe Rogan thought. Probably due to him rebelling against the super conservative place he's from. Some of his takes though I can see are reaffirmed by the podcast when do a little crosschecking of who has been on or what topic has been covered :lol
I sometimes overhear it coming from his room. He's a decent person though. Just a tinge of "neckbeard" sometimes, but nothing too bad.
Post by: OnlyRegret on September 03, 2020, 12:07:56 AM
https://twitter.com/adamcarolla/status/1293773434753753088 (https://twitter.com/adamcarolla/status/1293773434753753088)
kinda makes you think
but does it make you make stew?
Post by: benjipwns on September 03, 2020, 01:13:08 AM
Post by: BIONIC on September 03, 2020, 01:40:37 AM
https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1300438752892944385
:spiders
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 03, 2020, 04:37:13 AM
Post by: benjipwns on September 03, 2020, 10:13:33 AM
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It’s never a good sign when you’re watching a scene of street terror in yet another gut-churning YouTube video and you find yourself thinking: ‘Hang on a minute, that’s around the corner from my apartment!’ But there’s a now infamous video from last week where a mob of enraged millennials with their fists pumped in the air surrounded a lone young woman sitting outside a Washington restaurant where I often eat. Like a scene from the Cultural Revolution, the crowd demanded she shout certain slogans and raise her clenched fist in solidarity — or be damned as a racist. Most of her fellow diners took the path of least resistance. She wouldn’t. The chants grew louder: ‘White silence is violence!’ They started screaming in her face. She wouldn’t cave. Wokeness, in case you hadn’t noticed, has entered a more intense phase. Not so long ago, you were canceled for something you did or said or wrote. Now you’re canceled just for saying absolutely nothing at all.
I had a much milder experience of this during the past week when the New York Times decided to run a profile of me. The hook was that I was forced to leave New York magazine last month because, according to the NYT, I had not publicly recanted editing an issue of the New Republic published…in 1994. The issue was a symposium on The Bell Curve, a book by Charles Murray and Richard Herrnstein that explored the connection between IQ, class, social mobility and race. My crime was to arrange a symposium around an extract, with 13 often stinging critiques published alongside it. The fact I had not recanted that decision did not, mind you, prevent TIME, the Atlantic, Newsweek, the NYT and New York magazine from publishing me in the following years. But suddenly, a decision I made a quarter of a century ago required my being canceled. The NYT reporter generously gave me a chance to apologize and recant, and when I replied that I thought the role of genetics in intelligence among different human populations was still an open question, he had his headline: ‘I won’t stop reading Andrew Sullivan, but I can’t defend him.’ In other words, the media reporter in America’s paper of record said he could not defend a writer because I refused to say something I don’t believe. He said this while arguing that I was ‘one of the most influential journalists of the last three decades’. To be fair to him, he would have had no future at the NYT if he had not called me an indefensible racist. His silence on that would have been as unacceptable to his woke bosses as my refusal to recant. But this is where we now are. A reporter is in fear of being canceled if he doesn’t cancel someone else. This is America returning to its roots. As in Salem.
Post by: Oblivion on September 03, 2020, 02:25:16 PM
Post by: Brehvolution on September 03, 2020, 02:33:26 PM
Post by: team filler on September 03, 2020, 02:38:08 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 03, 2020, 02:40:24 PM
Post by: BIONIC on September 03, 2020, 03:04:35 PM
More like tim fool, amirite?
https://youtu.be/KnsiZOJjfUg
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 03, 2020, 05:39:54 PM
O wow this looks great. Putting it in this thread cause its got half of bread tube doing furry erotica narrations it seems.
Post by: Mandark on September 03, 2020, 05:45:10 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 03, 2020, 09:19:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhWWcWtAUoY
O wow this looks great. Putting it in this thread cause its got half of bread tube doing furry erotica narrations it seems.
This was really good.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 04, 2020, 11:25:47 AM
Post by: EchoRin on September 04, 2020, 11:31:10 AM
Post by: Rufus on September 04, 2020, 11:52:25 AM
A incoming student to our group mentioned how much he likes Jordan Peterson in his introduction talk :deadOh boy. If he's that excited, he will proselityze.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 04, 2020, 12:05:49 PM
Post by: Mandark on September 04, 2020, 01:18:26 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on September 04, 2020, 01:30:13 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/yaf/status/1301628286519447553
Post by: EchoRin on September 04, 2020, 01:34:26 PM
Big event later this month!
https://mobile.twitter.com/yaf/status/1301628286519447553
(https://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/13/files/2012/08/cantwait.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhFPOblXgAIUwL5.jpg)Ok so I had no idea what was going on. This is related to the DC shooting. Too bad the link Glenn was linking to doesn't exist anymore.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1301852368578007040
Oh. It was this: (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhEcDaOXsAgMEop?format=png&name=small)
Post by: team filler on September 04, 2020, 01:35:34 PM
So I was only paying half attention because the introductions were pretty terrible (these are masters and phd students), but I think what happened is he showed his desktop background by accident and then mentioned how it was JP related and how much JP inspires him. He also talked about how much he likes Jürgen Schmidhuber, who is a well known self-righteous raging asshole in our field.
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Jürgen Schmidhuber is a computer scientist who works in the field of artificial intelligence.(https://i.imgur.com/YWz1pNi.jpg) :waluigi
Post by: Transhuman on September 04, 2020, 01:56:56 PM
Oh. It was this: (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhEcDaOXsAgMEop?format=png&name=small)
I guess they deleted it because he was holding a gun at the time.
Post by: VomKriege on September 04, 2020, 01:58:58 PM
Big event later this month!
https://mobile.twitter.com/yaf/status/1301628286519447553
Doesn't Benjishaps have a better portrait than the Frankenstein's monster one ?
Post by: Tripon on September 04, 2020, 02:24:21 PM
Corolla seems a bit bitter that he didn't get a late night show.
Post by: Oblivion on September 04, 2020, 02:40:56 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhFPOblXgAIUwL5.jpg)
it keeps getting better:
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1301856502202937347
edit: even betterER!
https://twitter.com/jfeldman_epi/status/1301900298575904768
:neogaf
Post by: Transhuman on September 04, 2020, 03:21:53 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on September 04, 2020, 04:17:01 PM
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Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 04, 2020, 04:25:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smQsfNw_7V4
Post by: EchoRin on September 04, 2020, 04:32:32 PM
Post by: Oblivion on September 04, 2020, 06:13:31 PM
Post by: team filler on September 04, 2020, 06:14:35 PM
Post by: Oblivion on September 05, 2020, 04:50:56 PM
i think he ded, y'all. and for real this time. :doge
Post by: VomKriege on September 05, 2020, 05:46:30 PM
Post by: Oblivion on September 05, 2020, 07:16:28 PM
Post by: shosta on September 05, 2020, 07:25:26 PM
you know, it's been a month since the news that jorpy got the 'rona.his daughter said he's fine
i think he ded, y'all. and for real this time. :doge
Post by: VomKriege on September 05, 2020, 08:19:03 PM
https://twitter.com/GrrrGraphics/status/1302064689828880385
Link above
This is a bore post
Post by: VomKriege on September 05, 2020, 08:20:59 PM
Post by: Oblivion on September 05, 2020, 08:32:32 PM
Garrisson cartoonpolitical commentaryTwitter embed
https://twitter.com/GrrrGraphics/status/1302064689828880385
Link above
This is a bore post
why is biden riding the bus, but trump IS the bus? who's biden's bus supposed to be?
Post by: Transhuman on September 05, 2020, 08:44:04 PM
Post by: benjipwns on September 05, 2020, 09:10:46 PM
why is biden riding the bus, but trump IS the bus? who's biden's bus supposed to be?it's the Trump Train you lieberal hack
Post by: team filler on September 05, 2020, 09:19:50 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 06, 2020, 12:54:17 AM
Post by: VomKriege on September 06, 2020, 03:53:03 AM
https://twitter.com/CursedBoomers/status/1101219340588933120
Post by: team filler on September 06, 2020, 03:55:04 AM
Post by: nudemacusers on September 06, 2020, 10:26:20 AM
Post by: Tripon on September 06, 2020, 10:34:45 AM
Post by: Transhuman on September 06, 2020, 02:45:22 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on September 06, 2020, 07:04:56 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1301594990586531845
Post by: shosta on September 06, 2020, 08:39:39 PM
Post by: nudemacusers on September 06, 2020, 09:18:57 PM
https://twitter.com/drmistercody/status/1302387512581660673"I'm 34 and forever alone; must be everyone else's fault" :girlaff
Post by: VomKriege on September 06, 2020, 09:24:08 PM
Post by: Oblivion on September 07, 2020, 02:16:07 PM
Post by: Mandark on September 07, 2020, 02:47:33 PM
Post by: benjipwns on September 07, 2020, 03:29:27 PM
twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1302769107176054784He read the WaPo headline obviously. But where did THEY find out?
Post by: VomKriege on September 07, 2020, 04:14:00 PM
https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1302769107176054784
(https://i.imgur.com/knhz9PS.png)
Post by: VomKriege on September 07, 2020, 04:47:36 PM
https://twitter.com/JudgeJeanine/status/1302425996675743744
Post by: Oblivion on September 07, 2020, 05:54:13 PM
Post by: shosta on September 07, 2020, 05:57:53 PM
Post by: team filler on September 07, 2020, 06:08:47 PM
jimmy and patrice :lawd
Post by: VomKriege on September 07, 2020, 07:22:51 PM
the remake of Face/Off is terrible
Facts/Off
Post by: team filler on September 07, 2020, 08:12:28 PM
:biden
Post by: benjipwns on September 08, 2020, 05:18:01 PM
Post by: VomKriege on September 09, 2020, 04:01:44 AM
ChiComClones
:steel
1 Billion Americans on the way though !
Post by: Mandark on September 09, 2020, 04:06:19 AM
Post by: team filler on September 09, 2020, 04:08:42 AM
Post by: team filler on September 10, 2020, 05:32:56 AM
there really are no genders :doge only :brain
Post by: Transhuman on September 10, 2020, 06:12:06 AM
Post by: OnlyRegret on September 10, 2020, 03:51:45 PM
https://twitter.com/scrowder/status/1303453723147096065
Post by: benjipwns on September 10, 2020, 05:04:44 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 10, 2020, 06:47:42 PM
thanks americans, for taking them off our hands
https://twitter.com/scrowder/status/1303453723147096065
:juicy
Post by: VomKriege on September 10, 2020, 07:17:07 PM
:kermit
Post by: benjipwns on September 10, 2020, 07:22:11 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 10, 2020, 07:51:18 PM
Post by: benjipwns on September 10, 2020, 11:38:13 PM
Quote from: https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/covington-catholic-cancel-culture-nick-sandman
I’m a pro-life conservative Republican college student who won’t let cancel culture silence me:american
Post by: shosta on September 11, 2020, 01:05:27 AM
Post by: shosta on September 11, 2020, 01:05:58 AM
We just want to be friends.Pretty sure that's what you said to the natives
Post by: OnlyRegret on September 11, 2020, 01:46:44 AM
For all of benjipwns prejudice, all those wank hockey dads seem to come from English speaking Canada.
:kermit
an incubation chamber and then exported
Post by: VomKriege on September 11, 2020, 04:10:34 AM
Can somebody name anybody who's been cancelled besides the guy who said protests correlated with lower vote share
If we knew about them, that wouldn't be very effective cancelling, would it ?
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on September 11, 2020, 11:43:37 AM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 11, 2020, 11:52:33 AM
Post by: Nintex on September 11, 2020, 11:54:37 AM
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Overall, Americans took 9/11 pretty calmly
:dead
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 11, 2020, 12:01:26 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1304385740063805440
:notlikethis
Post by: Tripon on September 11, 2020, 12:47:42 PM
thanks americans, for taking them off our hands
https://twitter.com/scrowder/status/1303453723147096065
Take him back. :maf
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 11, 2020, 12:48:34 PM
Post by: Oblivion on September 11, 2020, 03:56:55 PM
so much for the tolerant anti-cancel culture crowd
Post by: Nintex on September 11, 2020, 04:47:52 PM
Orange man make peace :dizzy
Orange man bad :hmph
Peace bad :hmph
Post by: VomKriege on September 11, 2020, 04:50:02 PM
:neogaf
Post by: Nintex on September 11, 2020, 04:54:20 PM
Didn't he only get one (1) vote from some Scandinavian far right kook to be nominated on the short list ?He brokered another deal with Bahrain and he's now also nominated for the Kosovo / Serbia deal.
:neogaf
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 11, 2020, 04:57:18 PM
We’ve never seen peace like this before, Obama never had this much peace
Post by: VomKriege on September 12, 2020, 05:55:21 AM
Can somebody name anybody who's been cancelled besides the guy who said protests correlated with lower vote share
If we knew about them, that wouldn't be very effective cancelling, would it ?
M'y browsing floated there :
https://youtu.be/MBPgXjkfBXM
Still a good bit.
6 years already of Cancel being a thing (as a rhetorical device).
Post by: Oblivion on September 12, 2020, 07:34:39 PM
Post by: VomKriege on September 12, 2020, 07:39:41 PM
Post by: shosta on September 12, 2020, 10:47:03 PM
Loved every second of this :lawd
Edit: this is 7 years old I think
Post by: Mandark on September 12, 2020, 10:49:29 PM
Post by: shosta on September 12, 2020, 10:54:49 PM
Post by: VomKriege on September 13, 2020, 02:37:19 AM
https://youtu.be/iiCEH7HgocQ
https://youtu.be/-OlDJjezPuE
Post by: VomKriege on September 13, 2020, 08:48:02 AM
Post by: VomKriege on September 13, 2020, 09:03:40 AM
Post by: VomKriege on September 13, 2020, 03:18:28 PM
Needs more labels.
Post by: Oblivion on September 13, 2020, 04:35:25 PM
Post by: shosta on September 13, 2020, 11:06:58 PM
Trying to pivot to a black lives matter message :dead murdered me
Post by: curly on September 14, 2020, 12:04:52 AM
Post by: Mandark on September 14, 2020, 12:38:04 AM
but when bush is responsible than more muslims being killed than trump by several orders of magnitude, who really cares?
Post by: kingv on September 14, 2020, 01:25:31 AM
Didn't he only get one (1) vote from some Scandinavian far right kook to be nominated on the short list ?He brokered another deal with Bahrain and he's now also nominated for the Kosovo / Serbia deal.
:neogaf
He will never be taken seriously for something like this, because for every one good thing he does he does just as many bad things. People will weight kosovo/serbia against... the Iran deal he blew up for no reason. They'll weigh Bahrain/Israel against covering up Saudi murdering one of its citizens and turning American troops on his own citizens, or blatant vote suppressions, or openly supporting Israeli settlements, or whatever other dictator of the week he gets rolled by.
Obama didn't deserve it either, imo.
Post by: Mandark on September 14, 2020, 01:33:11 AM
Post by: VomKriege on September 14, 2020, 02:02:59 AM
https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1304872660636176384
At first I read 80000$, somehow, which obviously is nonsensical but at least my first thought was legit bank was claimed to be made for the price of grossly abusing his physical and mental well being and the safety of others.
Post by: EchoRin on September 14, 2020, 03:24:08 AM
https://www.youtube.com/c/ClassicallyAbby (https://www.youtube.com/c/ClassicallyAbby)
Enjoy. I tapped out several times while skimming some videos. Not edgelord or hateful enough from what I saw
Edit: huh. Never mind. Fuck this channel to hell
https://youtu.be/sg-6O5X_nFQ
Post by: Rufus on September 14, 2020, 06:25:44 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 14, 2020, 08:04:26 AM
Post by: curly on September 14, 2020, 10:46:25 AM
krugman's right about hate crimes and about bush feeling an obligation to tamp down on overt islamophobia that trump clearly doesn't
but when bush is responsible than more muslims being killed than trump by several orders of magnitude, who really cares?
What? He's arguing there wasn't a huge outbreak of anti-Muslim sentiment, which there clearly was going by that graph (or, you know, a functioning memory of the early 2000s). Muslims are what a tenth the size of the black population in the US? Not to mention the obscenity of using a bar graph to try to capture the depths of racism and paranoia that were running through society at large at the time
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 14, 2020, 10:54:25 AM
krugman's right about hate crimes and about bush feeling an obligation to tamp down on overt islamophobia that trump clearly doesn't
but when bush is responsible than more muslims being killed than trump by several orders of magnitude, who really cares?
What? He's arguing there wasn't a huge outbreak of anti-Muslim sentiment, which there clearly was going by that graph (or, you know, a functioning memory of the early 2000s). Muslims are what a tenth the size of the black population in the US? Not to mention the obscenity of using a bar graph to try to capture the depths of racism and paranoia that were running through society at large at the time
Compared to Kristallnacht, it wasn't that bad. :trumps
Post by: Nintex on September 14, 2020, 11:32:16 AM
After 3 years everyone had forgotten about Afghanistan and was focused on a new war.
The Afghan war is a recurring subscription that the Pentagon forgot to cancel like YouTube Premium.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on September 14, 2020, 02:51:56 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/samstein/status/1305568577320374273
Post by: Oblivion on September 14, 2020, 03:14:45 PM
Post by: Tripon on September 14, 2020, 04:15:57 PM
David Pakman has reached a new level of wank. :doge
Post by: Transhuman on September 14, 2020, 07:29:34 PM
https://twitter.com/ClipsDave/status/1305513862058319879
"Deplatform this crap"
But you're watching it... and showing it on your platform...
Post by: EchoRin on September 14, 2020, 08:33:41 PM
Post by: Transhuman on September 14, 2020, 09:12:05 PM
Also does anyone still have a link to that excerpt of Rubin doing standup?
Post by: EchoRin on September 14, 2020, 09:21:50 PM
Kinda like when a film class teacher shows Triumph of the Will to show the use of specific camera techniques or showing how a film like that can be incredibly influential on some people as a propaganda piece. But I have enough faith that none of the people in said class would show up with an 88 tattoo next class.
Within the context of them showing that Rubin bit I'd say we're pretty safe.
Also, don't want to make it seem like I'm picking on you with my responses. Just kindly disagreeing.
Post by: Transhuman on September 14, 2020, 09:36:10 PM
Kinda like when a film class teacher shows Triumph of the Will to show the use of specific camera techniques or showing how a film like that can be incredibly influential on some people as a propaganda piece. But I have enough faith that none of the people in said class would show up with an 88 tattoo next class.
I guess part of me doesn't have that level of faith. A lot of weak people out there looking for someone to tell them how to think, especially in America. I guess because organised religion is going out of business there's more and more impressionable people up for grabs.
Post by: Transhuman on September 14, 2020, 09:55:50 PM
https://twitter.com/KnowN0thing1/status/1295740393036939264
Here it is. It makes me so uncomfortable. Whenever I see his face I remember this clip and it makes me want to cringe vomit. Thanks Mandark
Post by: Mandark on September 14, 2020, 10:00:37 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 15, 2020, 03:44:07 AM
https://twitter.com/ClipsDave/status/1305513862058319879
"Deplatform this crap"
But you're watching it... and showing it on your platform...
There aren’t many things that make me cringe more than hearing internet slang being said out loud, good lord ::) :yuck
Post by: Oblivion on September 15, 2020, 02:03:35 PM
Post by: Oblivion on September 15, 2020, 02:08:16 PM
:brain
Post by: EchoRin on September 15, 2020, 02:19:37 PM
Is it this?
https://twitter.com/BDSixsmith/status/1305510563255123968
or is it this?
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1305550832318976001
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 15, 2020, 02:52:27 PM
Post by: naff on September 15, 2020, 03:56:51 PM
:neo :playa
Post by: Nintex on September 15, 2020, 05:20:55 PM
Post by: VomKriege on September 15, 2020, 05:37:41 PM
Post by: team filler on September 15, 2020, 06:01:07 PM
Joe Biden has still not responded to the invitation. He's a coward :belithe mandarkian vote secured ???
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 15, 2020, 07:12:51 PM
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1305846700699860993
Sharing something obviously fake and then being like “I was just asking questions, I’m a big enough man to admit when I’m wrong, unlike my critics.” Mark of a true wank dad. :delicious
Post by: Oblivion on September 16, 2020, 08:31:55 PM
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1306339948191191040
Post by: Oblivion on September 17, 2020, 03:19:44 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 17, 2020, 03:37:24 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 17, 2020, 03:51:22 PM
Ben Shapiro (2020, decolorized)
Post by: naff on September 17, 2020, 07:14:52 PM
Post by: Nintex on September 18, 2020, 02:17:45 PM
cuck rogan trying to protect his spotify bribe
Post by: Oblivion on September 18, 2020, 05:25:13 PM
Post by: EchoRin on September 18, 2020, 05:41:07 PM
So that was today, eh? They upload the whole talk I hope? Could use some more laughing at someone today while eating The Bore sanctioned food from T Bell.
Post by: EchoRin on September 18, 2020, 09:24:34 PM
#cancelcon
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 18, 2020, 10:23:24 PM
Post by: EchoRin on September 19, 2020, 01:49:51 AM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on September 19, 2020, 03:37:32 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 19, 2020, 03:57:00 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/dSoi4sx.jpg?1)
But then I read the accompanying text...
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This is a dark and gloomy cartoon that befits the mysterious circumstances surrounding the death of Antonin Scalia. At the very least, it’s inexcusable that there was no autopsy. There’s also a distinct possibility that, like Breitbart, Tom Clancy and Michael Hastings, he was assassinated. Now, conveniently, Obama will install someone who will help push his globalist agenda.
I didn't even realize the Deep State had gotten Tom Clancy too! :shaking
Brain worms are real, folks. Get yourself checked out once a year.
Post by: BIONIC on September 19, 2020, 04:24:15 PM
:goldberg
Post by: Oblivion on September 19, 2020, 09:39:19 PM
:sheik :sheik :sheik
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 19, 2020, 09:40:30 PM
Post by: Oblivion on September 20, 2020, 06:39:22 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 20, 2020, 08:08:41 PM
Post by: Oblivion on September 20, 2020, 10:29:29 PM
:smug
Post by: benjipwns on September 21, 2020, 12:18:54 AM
gotcha! history debunked!
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on September 21, 2020, 02:21:45 PM
Post by: Oblivion on September 22, 2020, 06:33:40 PM
:killme
Post by: VomKriege on September 22, 2020, 06:41:11 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 22, 2020, 07:06:21 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 22, 2020, 07:13:13 PM
gottem
Post by: naff on September 22, 2020, 07:18:37 PM
Post by: naff on September 22, 2020, 07:24:38 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 22, 2020, 08:14:12 PM
Post by: benjipwns on September 23, 2020, 12:01:11 AM
https://theintercept.com/2020/09/22/as-joe-rogans-platform-grows-so-does-the-media-and-liberal-backlash-why/
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WHAT IS IT, by the standards of U.S. political and media orthodoxy, that makes Rogan so radioactive? In March, billionaire and former NYC mayor Michael Bloomberg — who spoke at the 2004 GOP Convention in the middle of the Iraq War and war on terror to urge the reelection of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, and who presided over and repeatedly defended the racially disparate “stop and frisk” police practice — endorsed Joe Biden for president, and Biden not only accepted but celebrated the endorsement, praising Bloomberg in the process:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0tFgPG26vA
What are the standards that make Michael Bloomberg an acceptable endorsement to tout but not Joe Rogan, given that the billionaire three-term mayor and former Republican has taken far worse positions and done far more damage to far more people than the podcaster could ever dream of doing?
That question is even more compelling when it comes to the Biden/Harris campaign’s touting of the endorsement of former Republican Gov. Rick Snyder of Michigan, widely blamed for the criminally negligent lack of clean drinking water which plagued primarily African American residents of Flint, Michigan, for many years. Not only did the Biden campaign accept Snyder’s endorsement, but they issued a press release trumpeting it:
What makes all of this more confounding is that Rogan is a fairly basic political liberal on almost every issue: He believes in the need for greater social spending for the nation’s poor and working class, opposes war and militarism, favors drug legalization, is adamantly pro-choice and pro-LGBT rights, and generally adheres to liberal orthodoxies on standard political debates. That is why he was so fond of Bernie Sanders and Tulsi Gabbard, and why Andrew Yang — whose signature issue was the universal basic income — was one of the few candidates he deemed worth talking to.
The objections typically raised to Rogan concern his questioning of some of the very recent changes brought about by trans visibility and equality, particularly asking whether it is fair for trans women who have lived their entire lives and entered puberty as biological men to compete against cis women in professional sports (a question also asked — and even answered in the negative — by LGBT sports pioneer Martina Navratilova, among many others), and whether young children are emotionally and psychologically equipped to make permanent choices about gender reassignment therapies and gender dysphoria.
If embracing and never questioning the full panoply of trans advocacy is a prerequisite to being permitted in decent society, I seriously doubt many prominent Democratic politicians will pass that test (even Kamala Harris, from San Francisco and the very blue state of California, has a very mixed record on trans rights). Moreover, though polling data is sparse, the data that is available show that there is still much work to do in this area: Only a small minority of Americans believe it is fair to allow trans women to participate in female professional sports.
If the standard is that anyone who even entertains debates over the maximalist and most controversial questions in this very new and evolving social movement is to be cast out as radioactive, liberalism and the Democratic Party will be a very small group. It will also have to proceed without the vast majority of political leaders whom they currently follow. Even on this issue of trans rights, Rogan’s views are in accord with the standard Democratic Party view: He advocates full legal protection and dignity for the right of trans people to live with their gender respected.
The other critique centers on Rogan’s willingness to invite on his show various pundits with far-right views. That’s a bizarre criticism of someone who purposely hosts a program designed to foster dialogue with people across the political spectrum. After all, if one employs the blatantly irrational tactic of attributing to Rogan the views of all his guests, he would be simultaneously everything and nothing.
But again, this is a standard which few if any Democratic Party leaders could meet. Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Bernie Sanders all went on Bill O’Reilly’s Fox News show, while Rep. Adam Schiff has appeared on Tucker Carlson’s program. Speaking with people with differing views is called politics and journalism, and if one is decreed radioactive for interacting with people with bad views, few will survive that standard. (Liberals also point to the fact that Rogan said he could not vote for Biden over Trump, but that was not on ideological grounds but based on the same narrative that Democratic political and media elites spent all of last year disseminating: namely, that Biden’s cognitive decline makes him unfit for the job.)
While Rogan is politically liberal, he is — argues former Obama 2008 campaign strategist and Rogan listener Shant Mesrobian — culturally conservative, by which he does not mean that Rogan holds conservative views on social issues (again, he is pro-choice and pro-LGBT rights). He means that Rogan exudes culturally conservative signals: He likes MMA fighting, makes crude jokes, hunts, and just generally fails to speak in the lingo of the professional managerial class and coastal elites. And it is those cultural standards, rather than political ones, that make Rogan anathema to elite liberal culture because, Mesrobian argued in a viral Twitter thread, liberals care far more about proper culture signaling than they do about the much harder and more consequential work of actual politics.
As Rogan’s platform grows, it is worthwhile to understand his appeal, his audience, and what he is doing that is new and different to attract such a large following. But it is also very worth examining the reaction to him by the political and media class because in that reaction, one finds many revealing attributes about how they think, what they value, and the priorities that they actually venerate. Today’s SYSTEM UPDATE on The Intercept’s You Tube channel with Mesrobian as my guest is devoted to examining those questions, or it can be viewed on the player below:
Post by: OnlyRegret on September 23, 2020, 12:33:44 AM
https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1308387109754097665
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 23, 2020, 09:37:34 AM
https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1308387109754097665
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9O94UTDAJQ
Post by: Tripon on September 24, 2020, 01:03:44 AM
https://twitter.com/Aintropy/status/1308441720468668418
Post by: EchoRin on September 24, 2020, 02:23:23 AM
edit: Also, Duke Ethics upload that Bari Weiss crap. I wanna see the shitshow.
Post by: VomKriege on September 24, 2020, 04:45:38 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/NLbjaSg.jpg)
*Telephone rings*
..."Shitlib" *clic*
"Honey, I think I'll vote Green."
*Telephone rings*
..."Shitlib" *clic*
"Honey, I think I'll vote Green."
https://twitter.com/allisongill/status/1308115412689715200
:walkaway
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I shared my causes, and the things that meant a lot to me personally; something that I would later learn made me a vulnerable target for psychometric profiling
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was shown key phrases by what I now know to be bots, trolls, and manipulated US Persons.
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“McCarthyism”
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foreign adversaries
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Also, this was NOT an attack on the left or the right. It was an attack on America, and Americans.
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Over time, I would remove myself slowly from those fake groups and gaslighting “friends”
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I’ve obsessively studied Russian cyber warfare and social media manipulation
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PS: for some great examples of what I’m talking about, one need look no further than some of the responses to this thread.
:spiders
Post by: VomKriege on September 24, 2020, 05:29:34 AM
Man that's a rad robot.
https://twitter.com/e_stentzel/status/1308188030021308423
Jill Stein might be on the ballot where you live in 2020 ! :derp
Post by: Nintex on September 24, 2020, 05:45:41 AM
Afghan war: $2.4 trillion
This Gundam may be the most spectacular waste of money in human history :derp
Post by: Oblivion on September 24, 2020, 05:44:53 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 24, 2020, 06:26:57 PM
Post by: naff on September 24, 2020, 06:27:54 PM
(https://media.thetab.com/uploads/2015/09/brendan.jpg)
:brain :dead
Post by: naff on September 24, 2020, 06:33:49 PM
Post by: Nintex on September 24, 2020, 06:34:50 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EinC1clXkAE-mmk?format=jpg)
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 24, 2020, 07:00:00 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on September 25, 2020, 10:08:00 AM
Post by: VomKriege on September 25, 2020, 05:02:18 PM
https://twitter.com/Orly_licious/status/1308882272431595532
Post by: shosta on September 25, 2020, 06:29:21 PM
Post by: VomKriege on September 25, 2020, 06:32:56 PM
what's the probability he's just lying about having covid
He's had a number of chronic problems so...
Post by: benjipwns on September 26, 2020, 01:28:23 AM
https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1309719055905898496
Post by: Nintex on September 26, 2020, 07:31:14 AM
Post by: Rufus on September 26, 2020, 04:28:22 PM
Post by: Nintex on September 26, 2020, 05:00:06 PM
:neogaf
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on September 26, 2020, 08:55:52 PM
Post by: Transhuman on September 27, 2020, 01:27:53 AM
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Late last week, we first reported that Spotify employees were demanding direct editorial oversight over the recently-acquired Joe Rogan Experience podcast. That would include the ability to directly edit or remove sections of upcoming interviews, or block the uploading of episodes deemed problematic. The employees also demanded the ability to add trigger warnings, corrections, and references to fact-checked articles on topics discussed by Rogan in the course of his multi-hour discussions.
Some of the group’s demands have already been met by Spotify management, though a refusal to allow further changes is stirring talk of a high-profile walkout or strike.
So that's why they skipped all the older episodes. I always figured it was Spotify being risk-averse. It looks like they've already walked back some of the exclusions though, so maybe the strike is going to happen.
https://mobile.twitter.com/MikhailaAleksis/status/1300898458346369033
Post by: EchoRin on September 27, 2020, 03:17:21 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 27, 2020, 03:20:18 AM
Post by: benjipwns on September 29, 2020, 06:20:39 PM
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Matthew J. Mayhew apologizes for an article that he recently wrote for Inside Higher Ed and describes beginning a long process of antiracist learning.
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I recently led a piece in Inside Higher Ed titled “Why America Needs College Football.” I am sorry for the hurt, sadness, frustration, fatigue, exhaustion and pain this article has caused anyone, but specifically Black students in the higher education community and beyond.
I am struggling to find the words to communicate the deep ache for the damage I have done. I don’t want to write anything that further deepens the pain experienced by my ignorance related to Black male athletes and the Black community at any time, but especially in light of the national racial unrest. I also don’t want to write anything that suggests that antiracist learning is quick or easy. This is the beginning of a very long process, one that started with learning about the empirical work related to Black college football athletes.
Rather than make excuses, I should talk about which facets of the article that I have recently learned are harmful -- through my students, wider social media community and distinguished academics like Donna Ford, Joy Gaston Gayles and Gilman Whiting.
I learned that I could have titled the piece “Why America Needs Black Athletes.” I learned that Black men putting their bodies on the line for my enjoyment is inspired and maintained by my uninformed and disconnected whiteness and, as written in my previous article, positions student athletes as white property. I have learned that I placed the onus of responsibility for democratic healing on Black communities whose very lives are in danger every single day and that this notion of “democratic healing” is especially problematic since the Black community can’t benefit from ideals they can’t access. I have learned that words like “distraction” and “cheer” erase the present painful moments within the nation and especially the Black community.
Upon such beginnings of reflection, I have also learned that my love for Black athletes on the field doesn’t translate into love within the larger community -- that I have been dismissive of Black lives in moments not athletically celebrated. I have learned that I have taken pleasure in events that ask Black athletes to put their bodies on the line and take physical risks. I have been entertained by Black men who often are conditioned by society and structural racism in ways that lure them into athletics where the odds of making it are slim to none.
I am just beginning to understand how I have harmed communities of color with my words. I am learning that my words -- my uninformed, careless words -- often express an ideology wrought in whiteness and privilege. I am learning that my commitment to diversity has been performative, ignoring the pain the Black community and other communities of color have endured in this country. I am learning that I am not as knowledgeable as I thought I was, not as antiracist as I thought I was, not as careful as I thought I was. For all of these, I sincerely apologize.
I know it’s not anyone’s job to forgive me, but I ask for it -- another burden of a white person haunted by his ignorance. To consider the possible hurt I have played a role in, the scores of others whose pain I didn’t fully see, aches inside me -- a feeling different and deeper than the tears and emotions I’ve experienced being caught in an ignorant racist moment.
To all communities of color and especially the Black community, I am sorry for causing pain by ignoring yours. I really hate the idea of hurting anyone. I hate that I have done this: if I had not ignored the pain of so many, this article would have never been written. I hate that my students have to carry my ignorant racist energy with them at all times. I hate that I brought a graduate student into this space with me as a co-author: Musbah Shaheen, I am sorry. I hate the fact that I have hurt my colleagues at Ohio State and the field of higher education, especially Black scholars whose careers have been spent studying Black lives. I am sorry for ignoring your scholarship. I hate that I have let down my Black friends and friends of color, whom I love.
I am immeasurably grateful to the grace extended by Donna, Joy and Gilman and for their willingness to work with me on these issues. I know they are taking a risk by partnering with me on this pathway. I know that they are carrying a burden by even taking any time with me. I want to thank them.
To really begin the long process of antiracist learning, I am designing a plan for change, for turning the “I am sorry” to “I will change” -- for moving Black Lives Matter from a motto to a pathway from ignorance and toward authentic advocacy. To do this, a colleague of mine asked me to center the question: What can I do to unlearn patterns that hurt and harm Black communities and other communities of color? My center is as a learner, so movement for me will involve unlearning and relearning by listening, reading, dialoguing, reflecting and writing as a means for increasing my awareness and knowledge about systemic racism and the experiences of people of color and people who hold marginalized identities different from my own. I need time to reflect on the specifics of this plan, which includes accountability measures, and I am hoping news media like Inside Higher Ed will consider working with me and others on pieces that come from its enaction.
To be clear, no one should ever put their bodies on the line for entertainment. To be clear, football -- like COVID-19 -- places Black bodies at disproportional risk. To be clear, experts are not immune to ignorance. To be clear, no one can be antiracist and ignore Black pain and that of other communities of color.
Post by: Nintex on September 29, 2020, 07:05:55 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on September 30, 2020, 03:52:17 PM
Post by: Nintex on September 30, 2020, 04:00:26 PM
Leaving in droves, anime betrayals etc.
Post by: VomKriege on September 30, 2020, 04:01:42 PM
Scott Adams finally realized Trump is not a master of persuasion after he was unable to denounce white supremacy last night.
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1310573198413410304
Post by: VomKriege on September 30, 2020, 04:03:46 PM
https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1310956196887748617
Post by: VomKriege on September 30, 2020, 04:42:06 PM
Cursed collab.
Quote from: 2013
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2013/03/27/you-wont-believe-what-glenn-beck-is-saying-about-the-michele-bachmann-investigation/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2013/03/27/you-wont-believe-what-glenn-beck-is-saying-about-the-michele-bachmann-investigation/
Like the Congresswoman, Mr. Beck is a believer that the federal government has been overrun by the interests of Islamic extremists. Speaking on his Internet distributed program, Beck said, “We have been sold to radical Islam. It has infiltrated and we have documented it.”
Post by: EchoRin on September 30, 2020, 06:42:11 PM
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1311129190477910016
Post by: Nintex on September 30, 2020, 06:53:31 PM
:trumps
Post by: VomKriege on October 01, 2020, 01:19:56 PM
Post by: VomKriege on October 01, 2020, 01:28:49 PM
Post by: EchoRin on October 01, 2020, 01:46:42 PM
https://twitter.com/danielledsouzag/status/1311680710273626133Ultra shit take and I sort of hate myself for knowing it relates to Chrissy Tiegen because she keeps getting shoved in face. But trying to turn her sad and unfortunate circumstance into a pro-life argument from this lady is a major thumbs down.
Post by: VomKriege on October 01, 2020, 02:03:32 PM
https://twitter.com/danielledsouzag/status/1311680710273626133Ultra shit take and I sort of hate myself for knowing it relates to Chrissy Tiegen because she keeps getting shoved in face. But trying to turn her sad and unfortunate circumstance into a pro-life argument from this lady is a major thumbs down.
That Twitter feed is pure poison.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on October 01, 2020, 06:06:57 PM
https://www.twitter.com/ZTPetrizzo/status/1311776679329660934
Post by: Oblivion on October 03, 2020, 05:25:29 AM
https://twitter.com/FIDE_chess/status/1312234518938517504 (https://twitter.com/FIDE_chess/status/1312234518938517504)
:dead
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on October 04, 2020, 05:05:54 PM
Post by: VomKriege on October 04, 2020, 05:40:51 PM
Post by: Oblivion on October 05, 2020, 02:13:49 AM
Post by: EchoRin on October 05, 2020, 02:27:50 AM
Post by: chronovore on October 07, 2020, 07:17:01 AM
Scott Adams finally realized Trump is not a master of persuasion after he was unable to denounce white supremacy last night.
Scott Adams is an idiot. He had a great bit, some time ago, about how people are all idiots and geniuses, it's just a matter of percentages of time spent in each mode. In the past few years, he's been modally locked.
Post by: Nintex on October 07, 2020, 01:19:08 PM
Then he came up with the Trump master persuasion and Hillary Clinton campaign mole theory and got a following and a bunch of interviews on TV.
He doubled down on that smug persona explaining what was happening to the world and politics after the election.
He also mixed in his personal life of 'succes' such as chasing girlfriends much younger than him using the same 'linguistic kill-shots' and 'master persuasion' that Trump tapped into.
He essentially turned himself into a comic book character to sell more of his books and start-up ideas which all went surprisingly nowhere considering his master persuasion skills.
I think he tapped into something interesting at first but then it just became another repetitive grift.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 11, 2020, 10:24:10 PM
https://www.reddit.com/user/josh8449/submitted/
:dead :dead :dead
Post by: EchoRin on October 12, 2020, 12:30:52 AM
Post by: Tripon on October 12, 2020, 06:17:46 AM
(https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/skADCj7PpRlGVzN_2iVV5WVKEcyqqdYiNB_RRTVMgx4/%3Fformat%3Djpg%26name%3Dmedium/https/pbs.twimg.com/media/EjlGftoXYAYfErN?width=245&height=375)
Post by: VomKriege on October 12, 2020, 07:00:47 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on October 12, 2020, 07:19:33 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 13, 2020, 02:01:27 PM
https://www.twitter.com/drmistercody/status/1315724838363787264
To be fair that cartoon was probably cranked out by one person in a couple of hours.
Post by: Tripon on October 16, 2020, 12:00:54 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on October 16, 2020, 04:58:57 PM
https://www.twitter.com/PratushSayan/status/1315677117133152258
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRdaq3QmVrU
There’s another interview where the guy claims that Iran and Isis are using mind control on top people in US media, but I can’t find the clip online.
Post by: benjipwns on October 17, 2020, 01:54:00 AM
https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/p/why-is-wokeness-winning
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A question I’ve wrestled with this past year or so is a pretty basic one: if critical race/gender/queer theory is unfalsifiable postmodern claptrap, as I have long contended, how has it conquered so many institutions so swiftly?
Post by: Nintex on October 17, 2020, 02:25:31 PM
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Hutcheson looked uneasy as his girlfriend continued to talk about her career ambitions. “All of us Europeans have the responsibility to reproduce,” he interjected.
Southern looked down at her plate. “That’s a very cold way of putting it,” she responded. “Do you want to have a family for the sake of love or just because it’s a duty thing?”
“Motherhood is to women as war is to men,” her boyfriend replied stolidly. “I want to serve my nation.”
All the twists and turns in this piece :jeb
Post by: VomKriege on October 19, 2020, 06:10:15 AM
Not sure where to post this but :neogaf
Post by: EchoRin on October 19, 2020, 07:16:34 AM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on October 19, 2020, 02:53:53 PM
https://www.twitter.com/jason_koebler/status/1318252755601870849
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 19, 2020, 03:50:46 PM
Post by: Oblivion on October 19, 2020, 11:48:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_6zwVNn88o&feature=emb_title
Post by: benjipwns on October 20, 2020, 02:42:37 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 20, 2020, 02:58:33 AM
Post by: Transhuman on October 20, 2020, 03:12:07 AM
Post by: EchoRin on October 20, 2020, 04:42:06 AM
Post by: naff on October 20, 2020, 09:07:01 PM
Post by: team filler on October 20, 2020, 09:24:34 PM
:kermit
Post by: chronovore on October 22, 2020, 11:23:27 AM
That escalated quickly :lol
Hope that guy named his car the “Millenium Falcon,” ’cos he’s Hand Solo from here on out.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on October 22, 2020, 06:21:59 PM
:doge
Post by: shosta on October 22, 2020, 06:27:23 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 23, 2020, 02:57:23 AM
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Welcome!
Welcome to New Discourses! We like to think of this place as a home for the politically homeless, especially for those who feel like they’ve been displaced from their political homes because of the movement sometimes called “Critical Social Justice” and the myriad negative effects it has had on our political environments, both on the left and on the right. If that’s you, welcome, and make yourself at home.
New Discourses is, by design, meant to be apolitical in the usual sense. That means it is not interested in conservative, progressive, left, right, center, or any other particular political stances. It is, in this regard, only broadly liberal in the philosophical and ethical stance. In that case, whether you’re a progressive left-liberal or a conservative right-liberal, traditional or classical in any case, you’re likely to find what we’re doing refreshing. (And if you don’t, we can talk about it! That’s the point!)
The purpose of New Discourses is to meet the need that the problem of political alienation and homelessness has created. It is to be a place where dialogue is possible and encouraged, regardless of differences in politics, aiming to be responsible with our speech and thought while not feeling fettered by restrictions of political correctness in any of its myriad manifestations. It also hopes to inspire dialogue—both new ways to discuss old topics and new conversations in their own right.
In that sense, New Discourses is best thought of both as a media site and as an educational resource. Our aim is to produce high-quality material that can get you up to speed on what’s going on with our present discourses so we can have new ones. Our objective is to give you the tools you need to understand what’s going on around you in the world and talk about it effectively. We want you to understand, and we want you talking to others about what you’re understanding.
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New Discourses means two things—a kind of play on the word “discourses.” These two things relate to one another. On the one hand, discourses are how we talk about things, the dialogues we’re having, and even the dialogues we’re not having or not able to have honestly. On the other, discourses is a technical term within the academic literature that means, roughly, ways things can be spoken about legitimately within a particular context. For example, the ways lawyers speak about law and the practice of law can be referred to as legal discourses. The discourses, in this formal sense, can shape, define, or limit the discourses, in the sense of dialogue, that we are having and are able to have. Thus, the name of New Discourses fits.
The goal of New Discourses is to provide means and opportunities to have new discourses, in both senses of the word. Our social, political, and cultural conversations have, in many ways, become stagnant, even while they flourish in whole new ways thanks to the internet, media, and social media. Conservatives are expected to say conservative things; progressives are expected to say progressive things; and people are struggling to communicate effectively with one another. We need some new discourses.
A big part of this problem comes from the culture war, including the aspect of it that is sometimes called “politically correct.” This is one discourses-defining tool and mindset that bears a lot of relevance on our existing conversations and capacity to have them. Other variations exist too and apply in other social and political movements, and all such things are impediments to having productive, free, and open dialogue because they all seek to limit what is and is not legitimate to say—and how to say it—for everyone. One of the goals of New Discourses is to break this problem open and enable some new discourses, in the other sense of the term.
Here at New Discourses, we are, as you’ll find, particularly concerned with the current attempt by the movement sometimes called Critical Social Justice to control the discourses of our society, in both senses of the term. Unsurprisingly, this movement does this largely through using heavy-handed, even bullying tactics, many of which only make sense in the Age of the Internet. Many don’t realize, however, that it also does this through having changed the meanings of many words themselves, so that they speak almost an alternate version of whatever language they are speaking. If you change the meanings of words, as it happens, you can change the discourses that arise from those words.
We’re very concerned about this and the effect it is having in our society. Thus, in the spirit of free inquiry, free speech, and free association—without guilt—New Discourses hopes among its missions to elucidate the ways by which the Critical Social Justice movement is attempting to and succeeding at defining and controlling our discourses on their terms. Thus, much of what New Discourses aims to do is to offer education and educational resources about these new terms.
We hope our efforts allow people to understand the ways their language has a specific usage under Critical Social Justice. To accomplish this, we aim to expose the ways these terms have been defined and redefined and then to explain what they mean and how they’re being put to use. We also hope to articulate alternative ways to think of and talk about these issues and provide people with the tools they need to have these important conversations in completely new ways. We believe it is necessary to do this if we want to be able to get to a place where we can truly have new discourses.
Post by: EchoRin on October 23, 2020, 05:51:38 AM
:six:
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 23, 2020, 05:28:22 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on October 23, 2020, 09:13:06 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/GreggJarrett/status/1319698635853074435
Post by: EchoRin on October 23, 2020, 09:23:48 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 23, 2020, 10:00:31 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/RepClayHiggins/status/1319715219216674817
:neogaf
Post by: Tripon on October 24, 2020, 12:55:35 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 26, 2020, 11:15:43 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/RepClayHiggins/status/1319715219216674817
What next, a license to have dreams in my own damn head??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPemyipJzAM
Post by: Nintex on October 27, 2020, 06:40:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdVso9FSkmE
Will the stars align this week :whoo
Democrats are poop
Trump didn't do anything wrong and is protecting America against the communists
Sponsored by Spotify :success
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 27, 2020, 07:15:10 PM
Post by: Nintex on October 27, 2020, 07:39:13 PM
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0:11 Jamie is back
0:20 Jamie cant taste
0:40 Introduces Alex & Tim
1:30 Ghislane Maxwell & her family
2:35 Alex learned about Epstein 20 years ago
3:36 The Borat movie & Bruno
6:36 Sacha Baron Cohen tried to cancel Alex
7:48 Censorship & White House smear campaign
10:31 Bidens daughters diary & foreign interference
13:10 Lobbyists, AT&T & big tech
22:50 Xi Jin Ping,Trump, coal plants & trade
25:44 Clean burning coal
30:04 The carbon conspiracy
35:31 Election night Joe & Alex will be live
36:01 Joe & Alex debate climate change
47:10 Electric cars & TEAM CARBON
48:02 Nuclear power & BP
51:55 Global warming, cars & centralized control
54:11 Joe wished he was high & covid conspiracy
55:50 Alex Jones mistakes & Bohemian Grove
56:57 The Post Human Era, Neuralink & AI
1:01:22 The first amendment & big tech
1:08:32 Bohemian Grove Cult & Nixon
1:20:09 Human trafficking Vietnam black ops
1:23:50 Clinton & Epstein Island
1:25:53 Ted Gunderson & William Colby
1:28:42 Apocalypse Now & Epstein
1:29:50 Jamie shoutout & Epstein Island
1:33:15 Trump & Roy Cohen, Infowars & The Young Turks
1:36:55 Free speech & censors
1:40:55 The election, Communist China & I Phones
1:49:38 Bill Maher, Democrat & covid conspiracy
2:01:00 Brian Redban & Election night podcast
2:02:32 Whitmer assassination plot & Bret Weinstein
2:11:24 The post industrial world & autonomous cars
2:13:56 Police state & the pandemic conspiracy
2:28:48 Contesting the election & voter fraud
2:34:56 The universe, aliens & DMT
2:36:43 alternate dimensions & Bob Lazar
2:41:51 Technoptimism
2:51:40 Joes new studio & Jamie appreciation
2:53:24 MRNA vaccines
3:00:25 Alex talks about retirement & addiction
and JOE AND ALEX will be LIVE ON ELECTION NIGHT :drudge
Pop the champagne boys we have already won :mynicca
Post by: team filler on October 27, 2020, 09:56:36 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on October 28, 2020, 04:48:54 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/julianfeeld/status/1321260359148158976
Can we really be free if we aren’t free to be slaves?
Post by: Oblivion on October 28, 2020, 07:09:24 PM
Check out the NeoGAF thread on this video for some amazement lol:
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/scott-adams-talking-to-nicki-clyne-about-her-experience-with-nxivm-and-the-trial-of-keith-ranieri.1573615/
:kobeyuck
good to see gaf hasn't changed much since the exodus
Post by: Nintex on October 28, 2020, 07:23:50 PM
Post by: EchoRin on October 29, 2020, 12:08:18 AM
Post by: Rufus on October 29, 2020, 05:36:33 AM
Check out the NeoGAF thread on this video for some amazement lol:He's rich and married an Instagram model, therefore he is intelligent and wise.
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/scott-adams-talking-to-nicki-clyne-about-her-experience-with-nxivm-and-the-trial-of-keith-ranieri.1573615/
It's no wonder these people love their narcissist president.
Post by: VomKriege on October 30, 2020, 05:55:30 PM
WE SLEEP
:jeb
https://parler.com/profile/mitchellvii/posts
Post by: VomKriege on October 31, 2020, 08:59:02 AM
:corona_rodney
Post by: VomKriege on November 03, 2020, 03:43:25 AM
:badass
Post by: VomKriege on November 03, 2020, 07:49:42 AM
Likely not, though, it's probably the Last Big Con Job™ before the Trump ride maybe ending.
Post by: VomKriege on November 04, 2020, 03:02:58 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/W0V76O0.jpg)
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 04, 2020, 03:38:52 PM
:crybaby
(https://i.imgur.com/W0V76O0.jpg)
:neogaf
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on November 04, 2020, 09:23:34 PM
they printed out a bunch of mail in ballots, then mailed them in
i am something of a political savant
Post by: VomKriege on November 05, 2020, 06:47:17 AM
Post by: VomKriege on November 07, 2020, 03:36:01 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/fgvZznI.jpg)
Post by: VomKriege on November 07, 2020, 03:41:20 PM
:steel
Post by: VomKriege on November 07, 2020, 04:34:27 PM
:biden
Post by: EchoRin on November 07, 2020, 04:42:18 PM
Post by: Transhuman on November 07, 2020, 04:54:57 PM
They didn't ask for them, but they sure did love sending them in!
:umad
Post by: VomKriege on November 07, 2020, 04:57:05 PM
"medication"
:science
Post by: VomKriege on November 07, 2020, 05:15:33 PM
Post by: VomKriege on November 07, 2020, 05:19:02 PM
SECRET ballots ? :curious
Post by: Transhuman on November 07, 2020, 05:34:10 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/65c/7d6/87ba980e6045b97f9fca6cebd3ddfc3322-white-house.rhorizontal.w700.jpg)
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Post by: VomKriege on November 07, 2020, 06:59:43 PM
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1325068638236241920
Post by: OnlyRegret on November 07, 2020, 07:01:38 PM
Post by: team filler on November 07, 2020, 07:01:45 PM
Post by: VomKriege on November 08, 2020, 05:45:46 PM
Post by: VomKriege on November 08, 2020, 05:58:02 PM
https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1324396221566382080
:brain :brain :brain
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 08, 2020, 07:40:51 PM
Post by: benjipwns on November 10, 2020, 09:06:28 PM
Post by: team filler on November 10, 2020, 09:27:27 PM
Post by: team filler on November 10, 2020, 10:28:53 PM
https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1325657883862654976
https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1326336107697459200
:heart
Post by: naff on November 10, 2020, 11:16:07 PM
maybe it's a generational thing, the boomers are kinda interesting in a dumb ass unhinged boomer way, the millenials are so incredibly sad and pathetic they're no fun, but gen x'ers combine the dunning-kruger effect and being complete and utter wankers so perfectly.
Post by: BIONIC on November 11, 2020, 12:25:25 AM
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1326304111948488706
Ted Cruz unloading on someone’s face is not imagery I needed :doge
Post by: VomKriege on November 11, 2020, 04:50:01 AM
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1326304111948488706
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1326340986113568768
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 12, 2020, 06:46:25 PM
The President of the United States is retweeting Kevin Sorbo spreading conspiracy theories :dead
Post by: naff on November 13, 2020, 03:20:54 AM
Post by: benjipwns on November 17, 2020, 09:06:54 PM
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[Andrew] Sullivan’s Substack quickly rose to become the fifth-most-read among paid subscriptions—he claimed that his income had risen from less than $200,000 at New York magazine to $500,000.:success :money
Post by: Tripon on November 17, 2020, 09:11:43 PM
Post by: team filler on November 17, 2020, 09:19:10 PM
Post by: VomKriege on November 18, 2020, 02:16:09 PM
Quote from: https://www.bernardmedia.com/p/why-hasnt-weird-mike-cernovich-retired
“Friends, I feel like I’m no longer needed. There are so many good people doing good work.” Cernovich said on his farewell stream. “People always ask me, do you play a musical instrument. And I say, the keyboard. They go, oh, the piano? And I go, no. The keyboard of Twitter. Gorilla mindset, that’s my album. And I don’t want to have to keep playing the hits.”
Post by: naff on November 18, 2020, 03:57:16 PM
Gorilla Mindset would make a better name for an album than a fucking terrible book
Post by: benjipwns on November 19, 2020, 05:54:32 PM
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BLEXIT Foundation is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization dedicated to the advancement of urban and minority communities by encouraging youth to seek and take advantage of opportunities in 21st Century America. The organization promotes educational initiatives, pursues criminal justice reform, educates minority communities regarding America’s founding principles, and highlights the importance of free markets and entrepreneurship as the antidote to poverty. The BLEXIT Foundation achieves these goals by providing news and commentary through BLEXIT websites, curating BLEXIT programming, producing BLEXIT merchandise, and hosting BLEXIT events.
BLEXIT live events both amplify the message of the movement and illuminate its ideals through an immersive display of original film, provocative visuals, live music, and renowned speakers. BLEXIT events are both a rallying cry for freedom and an electrifying live experience that blurs the line between pop and politics. BLEXIT’s 2020 show is entitled Our Liberation.
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Founders Candace Owens and Brandon Tatum came together because of their shared desire to build a better future for America. Candace and Brandon seek to educate minorities across America about the history of our great country by highlighting the principles of the Constitution of the United States and the importance of self-reliance. The two believe it is time to take criminal justice reform seriously to stop the over-incarceration of minorities, to build strong families in the minority communities, and to value the life and the sanctity of every individual.
Post by: EchoRin on November 22, 2020, 03:05:55 AM
https://m.jpost.com/judaism/jordan-peterson-turns-to-genesis-for-lessons-on-civilization-in-peril-649478/amp
Post by: El Babua on November 22, 2020, 03:12:18 PM
Woke: Maxims of Ptahotep (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Maxims_of_Ptahhotep) :rejoice
Post by: VomKriege on November 22, 2020, 03:50:37 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 22, 2020, 08:59:59 PM
Post by: Transhuman on November 22, 2020, 09:45:32 PM
God is omnipotent and omniscient, so not only could he have easily stopped all the rocks, but he chose not to stop a rock that he knew would hit Charlie Kirk in the back of the head. Really makes you think. #God
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Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
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In this world, is the destiny of mankind controlled by some transcendental entity or law? Is it like the hand of God hovering above? At least it is true that man has no control; even over his own will
Only true anime fans know which is Epicurus and which is Berserk
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 22, 2020, 10:21:47 PM
Post by: benjipwns on November 24, 2020, 06:49:16 PM
https://twitter.com/ManishaKrishnan/status/1331347362883772419
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/MikhailaAleksis/status/1331357101688561664
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Post by: EchoRin on November 24, 2020, 07:09:58 PM
Post by: VomKriege on November 24, 2020, 07:40:53 PM
Post by: BIONIC on November 24, 2020, 07:44:31 PM
Literally crying rn tweets
Penguin Random House Canada is ree headquarters? :thinking
Post by: naff on November 24, 2020, 08:04:28 PM
i'd still be gutted to have to work on publishing a book of his.
Post by: Transhuman on November 24, 2020, 08:43:09 PM
Post by: naff on November 24, 2020, 09:07:26 PM
Post by: Coitus on November 24, 2020, 10:53:40 PM
Post by: BIONIC on November 25, 2020, 07:14:53 AM
I think of him as a brain dead crustacean being controlled by his daughter who betrayed him and his bloodline by getting pregnant by a Cultural Marxist Slav.
Don’t forget that the Slav also claims he has a demon living inside him.
Post by: Transhuman on November 25, 2020, 11:20:14 AM
i think of him as a reactionary and general contrarian, not someone with steadfast beliefs.
I guess i'm not familiar enough with Peterson to know with certainty but I always thought he seemed to believe what he's saying, for better or worse (the latter).
Post by: kingv on November 25, 2020, 12:33:39 PM
Why is his daughter like his entire online presence now? He’s on some weekend at Bernie’s shit
Edit: from what I have heard about his books, the 12 rules themselves don’t really seem all that egregiously bad. It’s like “wash your balls and clean your room”. They honestly read more like some sort of eat, pray, love pablum but dude is a mega grifter and in general. It’s kind of awesome he managed to sell this like super generic shit to incels tho... and his own daughter and himself don’t follow his principles at all.
Post by: Nintex on November 25, 2020, 12:38:21 PM
Definitely looking for more life advice from a guy who got hooked on benzos, let his daughter convince him to go on an all-beef diet, and ended up in a medically induced coma in Russia.That's one of the 12 lessons :rash
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 25, 2020, 04:22:28 PM
The entire concept of selling a 2nd "12 rules" book is making me giggle.
On Star Trek you have the Captain's Log, but then sometimes you have the Captain's Log Supplemental. Like when the captain tells you to wash your penis, but then he remembers later to tell you to wash your butthole also.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on November 27, 2020, 03:13:32 PM
:doge
Post by: Nintex on November 27, 2020, 05:10:27 PM
Post by: EchoRin on November 27, 2020, 05:35:53 PM
J Beep gets a flattering article about his recent struggles from good ol News Corp subsidiary News Corp Australia
Post by: VomKriege on November 27, 2020, 06:46:46 PM
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1332325129485910017
:doge
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1332322229485330433
"No one questions..." well actually...
Post by: VomKriege on November 27, 2020, 07:05:15 PM
Post by: Nintex on November 27, 2020, 07:31:52 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElRZJbZUcAAi-S2?format=jpg&name=medium)
#greenlights
:rejoice
Post by: VomKriege on December 11, 2020, 04:42:49 AM
Post by: Nintex on December 11, 2020, 05:51:20 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/0josdak.jpg)If you strike him down he only comes back stronger
:rejoice
Post by: EchoRin on December 11, 2020, 10:19:28 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/0josdak.jpg)
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 11, 2020, 08:17:21 PM
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on December 12, 2020, 01:14:36 AM
Post by: Nintex on December 12, 2020, 02:01:10 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpAYnkRXIAIq_oy?format=jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpAYstHW8AEkZch?format=jpg)
:trumps
Post by: VomKriege on December 12, 2020, 05:52:08 PM
https://twitter.com/gnostiquette/status/1336461124133384193
The IDW ?
Neither Intellectual nor dark.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 12, 2020, 10:59:00 PM
Post by: EchoRin on December 13, 2020, 01:10:17 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpAYeT8WMAA32zu?format=jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpAYnkRXIAIq_oy?format=jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpAYstHW8AEkZch?format=jpg)
:trumps
Gays for Trump things
Post by: EchoRin on December 13, 2020, 06:08:49 AM
Post by: VomKriege on December 13, 2020, 06:30:03 AM
Post by: team filler on December 16, 2020, 08:31:45 PM
:drool
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on December 16, 2020, 09:39:22 PM
Post by: VomKriege on December 19, 2020, 11:19:15 AM
Snake : Wank... Dad... ?
(https://i.imgur.com/XYixIfc.jpg)
https://youtu.be/Hi2yvpdtz1M
https://youtu.be/Wd6b_8OlwXU
Post by: Tripon on December 19, 2020, 12:23:13 PM
https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1339092502272466945
:drool
https://twitter.com/Gabe15445632/status/1340346568323510272
Post by: Nintex on December 19, 2020, 12:48:18 PM
Otacon : Snake, look into your purse, I added a Wank Dad Gear mk.II.This is certified fantastic
Snake : Wank... Dad... ?
(https://i.imgur.com/XYixIfc.jpg)
https://youtu.be/Hi2yvpdtz1M
https://youtu.be/Wd6b_8OlwXU
Post by: EchoRin on December 19, 2020, 07:33:22 PM
Lol. The comments section is so bitter wankdad. Kinda missing the point too, but as long as you get to bark "snowflake" it's a good day :lol
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 20, 2020, 05:47:21 AM
Otacon : Snake, look into your purse, I added a Wank Dad Gear mk.II.
Snake : Wank... Dad... ?
(https://i.imgur.com/XYixIfc.jpg)
https://youtu.be/Hi2yvpdtz1M
https://youtu.be/Wd6b_8OlwXU
Only in America could someone who literally looks like a supervillain be voted into office :salute :usacry :rejoice
Post by: Nintex on December 20, 2020, 08:17:07 AM
Post by: VomKriege on December 21, 2020, 05:02:20 AM
Post by: VomKriege on December 21, 2020, 05:13:38 AM
:fbm
Post by: Nintex on December 21, 2020, 06:47:53 AM
Jorpie quotes replacing the Live Life Laugh. :doge
Post by: EchoRin on December 21, 2020, 08:47:19 AM
Post by: VomKriege on December 21, 2020, 02:38:00 PM
I can't.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on December 22, 2020, 06:10:25 PM
:rollsafe
Post by: Nintex on December 22, 2020, 06:17:02 PM
Post by: benjipwns on December 23, 2020, 02:29:47 AM
Post by: Nintex on December 23, 2020, 07:34:39 AM
Open your gift (http://cmscontent.penguinrandomhouse.com/MW/beyondOrder_preorder-sheet.pdf) :-*
Post by: EchoRin on December 23, 2020, 06:38:43 PM
Post by: Nintex on December 23, 2020, 07:19:46 PM
:titus
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on December 25, 2020, 12:25:43 AM
Kevin Spacey about to become a wank dad?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 25, 2020, 05:20:41 AM
Post by: Nintex on December 25, 2020, 05:53:31 AM
:rogan
"It's so weird Kevin, some people don't want me talking to you. I know you, you're a good guy. You made a mistake. We all do"
"Thanks Joe, I appreciate it"
"But I gotta ask you man, man to man, mano el mano. Did you do it...."
"Did I do what Joe? Be specific"
"Did you go to these weird parties Kevin with Bill Clinton. Like I'm hearing this weird shit man that you would hang out with Prince Andrew and cook spirits and shit"
Post by: VomKriege on December 25, 2020, 10:53:14 AM
:brain
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1333140745134374914
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1333158184941363202
THE OFFICIAL TEMPERATURE
Post by: OnlyRegret on December 25, 2020, 05:04:01 PM
Post by: Nintex on December 25, 2020, 06:28:00 PM
:thinking
Post by: VomKriege on December 28, 2020, 04:45:13 PM
The "smartest man in the world" has quite the Internet history. :dead
Post by: team filler on December 28, 2020, 04:57:22 PM
Post by: Nintex on December 28, 2020, 04:57:51 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/BzF3CSZ.jpg)But I thought Donald Trump was the smartest man in the world and the only one able to play chess in 4 dimensions?
The "smartest man in the world" has quite the Internet history. :dead
I can't keep up with the plot anymore :fbm
Post by: benjipwns on January 01, 2021, 05:22:57 AM
:thinking suspicious don't you think
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 01, 2021, 11:03:14 AM
...maybe not.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on January 04, 2021, 01:41:52 PM
Their first film is **checks notes** Home Alone, but the main character is preventing a school shooting instead of a robbery.
https://mobile.twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1346124235148722176
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 04, 2021, 03:39:00 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 04, 2021, 04:07:53 PM
A headline possible coming to your favourite click bait site soon :doge
Post by: team filler on January 06, 2021, 07:47:04 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on January 07, 2021, 04:20:20 PM
:lol
Post by: benjipwns on January 07, 2021, 07:52:09 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 07, 2021, 08:15:06 PM
Post by: Transhuman on January 07, 2021, 08:56:09 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on January 08, 2021, 03:37:16 PM
Post by: Nintex on January 09, 2021, 08:57:19 AM
Quote
And then the White House told me three days before, “We’re going to have you lead the march. The Secret Service -- before Trump finishes, 30 minutes before -- so we’ll lead you to a point, take you out of the front row and lead you to the place where they want you to start the march and Trump will tell people, ‘Go, and I’m going to meet you at the Capitol.’”
Post by: BIONIC on January 09, 2021, 09:27:12 AM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on January 13, 2021, 11:23:57 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 14, 2021, 05:39:54 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 14, 2021, 07:54:02 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/abughazalehkat/status/1349164892830490630
Everything I don't like is like slavery or the holocaust; except for actual slavery, which wasn't that bad, and the actual holocaust, which didn't happen.
Post by: VomKriege on January 15, 2021, 07:20:27 PM
Post by: Transhuman on January 15, 2021, 07:28:34 PM
https://twitter.com/undeadscribe/status/1349919641162940419
This is the Holocaust!
Post by: team filler on January 15, 2021, 07:39:04 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on January 17, 2021, 04:43:44 PM
Quote
The day after New Year’s, John Reichert of Boulder, Colo., had a heated argument with his 14-year-old son, James. “I’ve failed you as a father,” he told the boy despairingly.
During the long months of lockdowns and shuttered schools, Mr. Reichert, like many parents, overlooked the vastly increasing time that his son was spending on video games and social media. Now, James, who used to focus his free time on mountain biking and playing basketball, devotes nearly all of his leisure hours — about 40 a week — to Xbox and his phone. During their argument, he pleaded with his father not to restrict access, calling his phone his “whole life.”
“That was the tipping point. His whole life?” said Mr. Reichert, a technical administrator in the local sheriff’s office. “I’m not losing my son to this.”
(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2021/01/16/science/16VIRUS-SCREENS1/16VIRUS-SCREENS1-superJumbo-v3.jpg)
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/16/health/covid-kids-tech-use.html
Post by: team filler on January 17, 2021, 05:04:56 PM
it's much worse than that tbh :(https://twitter.com/undeadscribe/status/1349919641162940419
This is the Holocaust!
Post by: EchoRin on January 17, 2021, 05:34:38 PM
Post by: Transhuman on January 17, 2021, 05:37:54 PM
Post by: Nintex on January 17, 2021, 07:13:36 PM
"As Obi Wan Kenobi said to Darth Vader..."
:dead
Post by: Transhuman on January 17, 2021, 07:39:22 PM
The two powerful warriors stand motionless for a few moments
with laser swords locked in mid-air, creating a low buzzing
sound.
VADER
Your powers are weak, old man.
BEN
You can't win, Darth. If you strike
me down, I shall become more powerful
than you can possibly imagine.
Their lightsabers continue to meet in combat.
INT. DEATH STAR - MAIN FORWARD BAY
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 18, 2021, 10:28:51 AM
Your powers are weak, old man. Very low energy, sad! *makes some weird hand gestures*
BIDEN
Now listen here, Jack. You can't win. If you try this
malarkey on me, I shall become more powerful
than you can possibly imagine.
Post by: benjipwns on January 18, 2021, 11:33:40 AM
Post by: Rufus on January 18, 2021, 11:44:31 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 18, 2021, 11:47:44 AM
Quote
Try to shut down Independent long-form podcasting & watch what happens to your civilization.
This is just like what happen to Babylonia. :notlikethis
Post by: Rufus on January 18, 2021, 11:50:25 AM
It's a tough business, carrying civilization on your shoulders.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 18, 2021, 11:59:44 AM
:salute
Post by: naff on January 18, 2021, 07:06:54 PM
i saw ariel pink had liked a bunch of his and scott adams tweets before he closed his twitter account :lol
love a lot of ariel's music, but i think he's gone beyond being a simple troll and actually got the brain worms lately.
Post by: Nintex on January 18, 2021, 07:27:26 PM
the grift never ends :yeshrug
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 19, 2021, 09:49:09 AM
Post by: Nintex on January 19, 2021, 12:52:23 PM
People thinking it can't get worse than Trump :hitler
Post by: EchoRin on January 19, 2021, 01:16:27 PM
Post by: Nintex on January 19, 2021, 03:08:33 PM
Post by: team filler on January 21, 2021, 02:21:18 PM
Post by: Nintex on January 21, 2021, 06:04:19 PM
:doge
Post by: team filler on January 22, 2021, 01:39:16 AM
still miss her :heart
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 22, 2021, 04:20:40 AM
Post by: benjipwns on January 23, 2021, 04:08:28 PM
Quote from: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jan/23/rolling-stone-magazine-culture-council-publication
Rolling Stone magazine is offering “thought leaders” the chance to write for its website if they are willing to pay $2,000 to “shape the future of culture”.
The storied magazine, which has published journalism by writers including Hunter S Thompson, Patti Smith and Tom Wolfe, approached would-be members of its new “Culture Council” by email, telling them that they had the chance to join “an invitation-only community for innovators, influencers and tastemakers”.
Emails seen by the Guardian suggest that those who pass a vetting process – and pay a $1,500 annual fee plus $500 up front – will “have the opportunity to publish original content to the Rolling Stone website”. It suggests that doing so “allows members to position themselves as thought leaders and share their expertise”.
That message is reinforced by the Council’s website, which, under the headline Get Published tells would-be members: “Being published in one of the best-known entertainment media outlets in the world sets you apart as a visionary, leader, and bold voice in your industry.”
Post by: EchoRin on January 23, 2021, 04:18:41 PM
I expect to see Will.I.Am. popping up.
Post by: VomKriege on January 24, 2021, 07:50:21 AM
Post by: Nintex on January 24, 2021, 07:16:43 PM
:titus
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 24, 2021, 09:28:05 PM
Post by: team filler on January 25, 2021, 04:37:12 PM
now jimmy dore gets to :smug
Post by: EchoRin on January 25, 2021, 10:35:50 PM
So native advertising. :isthis
But nearly for free essentially. I imagine some random Gibson advert in the magazine probably costs way more than 2K per issue.
Post by: team filler on January 26, 2021, 10:36:09 PM
save us, tulsi :tocry
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 27, 2021, 12:08:41 AM
https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1354035548524957697
save us, tulsi :tocry
:camby
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 27, 2021, 12:09:07 AM
Post by: team filler on January 27, 2021, 12:51:23 AM
Post by: VomKriege on January 27, 2021, 01:15:01 AM
she's running as republican in 2024and she'll win the nomination;)
Good bet.
Post by: team filler on January 27, 2021, 01:19:48 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 27, 2021, 07:42:40 AM
Post by: Nintex on January 27, 2021, 03:15:30 PM
Post by: team filler on January 27, 2021, 03:30:59 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on January 28, 2021, 01:14:13 PM
:lol
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 28, 2021, 01:23:08 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on January 31, 2021, 01:03:37 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 31, 2021, 01:27:37 PM
Post by: EchoRin on February 05, 2021, 08:11:14 PM
:usacry :picard
Post by: team filler on February 05, 2021, 08:13:33 PM
guy loves jimmy dore more than I do :lol
Post by: benjipwns on February 07, 2021, 06:52:45 AM
Post by: jorma on February 07, 2021, 08:25:24 AM
I mean, if it worked...
considering how much i pay for :doggy shampoo it probably worked a lot better than his regular products :lol
i'd try it myself but it's just not possible on my current budget
Post by: EchoRin on February 09, 2021, 12:38:22 AM
But $40 Canadian? You are out of your drugged out mind J Beep :o
I ain't buying this thing unless he eventually does a book tour.
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/books/608041/beyond-order-by-jordan-b-peterson/9780735278332
Post by: team filler on February 09, 2021, 12:41:07 AM
person who believes in the development and protection of a Jewish nation grifters :neogaf
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 09, 2021, 11:24:57 AM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on February 09, 2021, 12:49:23 PM
:lol Amazing Chyron.
Post by: Nintex on February 09, 2021, 01:34:29 PM
Where the fuck do they find those people.
Post by: Potato on February 09, 2021, 03:04:34 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 09, 2021, 03:32:05 PM
I've never seen that Fox News host. He sounds like an Australian version of Dr. Gorka.That's Mark Steyn.
Where the fuck do they find those people.
Post by: VomKriege on February 10, 2021, 05:13:24 AM
"Mahomes is whiter than me, if I curled my hair I'd be blacker than him. Look at that he must be spending hours and hours every week to get that curled. It's like Shaun King and Rachel Dolezar (sic) ! Anyway, why are those people so obsessed with what colour people are ?" Repeat for several minutes.
:steel
Post by: VomKriege on February 10, 2021, 06:23:12 AM
In case you wondered just how ignorant Alex's racism is.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on February 10, 2021, 12:56:11 PM
:brain :doge
Post by: VomKriege on February 11, 2021, 03:02:22 AM
Post by: benjipwns on February 11, 2021, 12:28:27 PM
Quote
Fox News plans to move Saturday’s “The Greg Gutfeld Show” to every weeknight at 11 p.m., the network announced on Wednesday.:trumps
Fox News Media CEO Suzanne Scott revealed the network’s weekly comedy-centered late-night talk show will move to weeknights during the start of the second quarter of this year. Gutfeld’s show will be followed by “Fox News @ Night,” which will be pushed back to begin at midnight.
“People need a reason to laugh,” Scott said in a statement.
“With one of the most loyal and engaged audiences in cable news, we’re thrilled to bring the show to weekday primetime and further solidify Greg’s place among late night television stars,” she added.
Post by: Tripon on February 11, 2021, 12:41:27 PM
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/538262-fox-newss-the-greg-gutfeld-show-shifts-to-five-days-a-weekQuoteFox News plans to move Saturday’s “The Greg Gutfeld Show” to every weeknight at 11 p.m., the network announced on Wednesday.:trumps
Fox News Media CEO Suzanne Scott revealed the network’s weekly comedy-centered late-night talk show will move to weeknights during the start of the second quarter of this year. Gutfeld’s show will be followed by “Fox News @ Night,” which will be pushed back to begin at midnight.
“People need a reason to laugh,” Scott said in a statement.
“With one of the most loyal and engaged audiences in cable news, we’re thrilled to bring the show to weekday primetime and further solidify Greg’s place among late night television stars,” she added.
Is this going to be Red Eye again?
Post by: benjipwns on February 11, 2021, 12:48:32 PM
Post by: team filler on February 11, 2021, 01:58:15 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 11, 2021, 01:58:48 PM
Quote
“People need a reason to laugh,” Scott said in a statement.
:woody
Post by: team filler on February 11, 2021, 02:54:58 PM
Post by: Nintex on February 11, 2021, 04:48:17 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on February 11, 2021, 05:39:56 PM
https://www.cjr.org/special_report/seth-abramson-twitter.php
Quote
Abramson claims that, in the months before, he had been corresponding with Luke Turner, the author of The Metamodernist Manifesto and a creative partner of LaBeouf’s; because of that, Abramson believes that he was an influence on LaBeouf. “I’m the reason that Shia LaBeouf became a performance artist,” Abramson told me. LaBeouf says that Abramson was just trying to sell more books.
:lol :lol :lol
Post by: benjipwns on February 11, 2021, 09:03:10 PM
Quote
Last weekend, New York Times columnist Bret Stephens wrote a piece criticizing the rationale behind the forced ouster of Times reporter Donald J. McNeil, but it was never published. Stephens told colleagues the column was killed by publisher A.G. Sulzberger. Since then, the piece has circulated among Times staffers and others — and it was from one of them, not Stephens himself, that The Post obtained it. We publish his spiked column here in full.
Post by: EchoRin on February 12, 2021, 09:35:28 AM
https://youtu.be/qMmgDeyhamI
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on February 12, 2021, 12:29:46 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1360274891254161412
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 12, 2021, 12:33:02 PM
Post by: Nintex on February 12, 2021, 12:33:16 PM
Quote
Carano told us today: “The Daily Wire is helping make one of my dreams — to develop and produce my own film — come true. I cried out and my prayer was answered. I am sending out a direct message of hope to everyone living in fear of cancellation by the totalitarian mob. I have only just begun using my voice which is now freer than ever before, and I hope it inspires others to do the same. They can’t cancel us if we don’t let them.”
Quote
“We’re eager to bring Gina’s talent to Americans who love her, and we’re just as eager to show Hollywood that if they want to keep cancelling those who think differently, they’ll just be helping us build the Xwing to take down their Death Star,” he added.
:rejoice
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on February 12, 2021, 12:35:29 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 12, 2021, 12:37:27 PM
Post by: Nintex on February 12, 2021, 12:41:21 PM
dreams shattered by Disney :pacspit
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on February 12, 2021, 12:49:15 PM
Post by: Don Rumata on February 12, 2021, 12:51:40 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 12, 2021, 01:01:14 PM
Post by: Don Rumata on February 12, 2021, 01:04:32 PM
Post by: Don Rumata on February 12, 2021, 03:49:57 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 15, 2021, 02:42:05 PM
Quote
“I know what antisemitism looks like, being one of the more prominent kippah-wearing people out there,” Ben Shapiro, who, according to the ADL, was the journalist most targeted by antisemitic hate during the 2016 election, told me. “This doesn’t chart. I don’t like the meme, especially given its origins. But antisemitism, like racism — and contrary to the NYT’s executive editor’s dictum — requires intent. Gina obviously didn’t have any such intent.”
“Gina isn’t antisemitic. Period. This meme is being ‘resurfaced’ as a post-facto justification for an unjustifiable cancellation,” he said. “Gina wasn’t aware of the origins of the original picture, and was devastated to hear about it, just as she has been devastated by the absurd and bad faith contention that she is antisemitic in any way.”
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 15, 2021, 04:19:47 PM
Idk if Ben knows this, but companies can cancel a worker for any reason.
:ohhh
Post by: team filler on February 15, 2021, 07:30:42 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 15, 2021, 08:04:46 PM
Idk if Ben knows this, but companies can cancel a worker for any reason.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBfWB64iHAs
Post by: VomKriege on February 16, 2021, 03:49:59 AM
Idk if Ben knows this, but companies can cancel a worker for any reason.
Can't wait for the no doubt very clear explanation of how you can have both at will employment and "cancel" protections.
Post by: Nintex on February 18, 2021, 08:03:05 PM
:wut
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 18, 2021, 08:10:03 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/W9ZSmyq.png)
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on February 19, 2021, 06:48:01 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1362791608198995975
https://mobile.twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1362791615551533058
Post by: Nintex on February 19, 2021, 07:20:40 PM
Post by: BIONIC on February 20, 2021, 04:49:46 AM
Post by: benjipwns on February 21, 2021, 09:49:12 PM
:jeb
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 21, 2021, 11:24:08 PM
Post by: EchoRin on February 22, 2021, 08:11:04 AM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on February 22, 2021, 12:59:29 PM
https://youtu.be/pevgyB12RMQ
:snore
Alongside Night is the GOAT libertarian literary adaptation.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fkWaTMY_F_s
Post by: Nintex on February 22, 2021, 01:14:38 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eutkk4XXcAI0IEM?format=jpg&name=medium)
:jeb
CLOWN PAC :rejoice
Talking about Wank Dads, Don Jr. is totally a Die Hard villain now.
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1363375683154681856 (https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1363375683154681856)
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1362792038006206464 (https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1362792038006206464)
"The optics are not ideal right now" :dead
Post by: EchoRin on February 22, 2021, 03:34:12 PM
Alongside Night is the GOAT libertarian literary adaptation.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fkWaTMY_F_s
:neo
Sold. This looks incredibly laughable. Also, why take 3 different currencies when he was exchanging that coin? Now I haven't read the book so there's that. For a high school looking guy I just can't see why he wouldn't take only form of currency he could probably use in whatever country he lives in.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on February 22, 2021, 04:01:09 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 22, 2021, 04:12:47 PM
It’s been a few years since I watched it, but in it the US government is collapsing so the dollar is going through hyperinflation. The main character is looking for his dad, Kevin Sorbo, who is in hiding because the US gov is trying to assassinate him for trying to replace the dollar with liberty coins. Not a good movie, but far better than the atlas shrugged trilogy.
Was it better or worse than Amerigeddon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHO7jUuhOWQ
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 22, 2021, 04:18:22 PM
:neogaf
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on February 22, 2021, 04:26:34 PM
It’s been a few years since I watched it, but in it the US government is collapsing so the dollar is going through hyperinflation. The main character is looking for his dad, Kevin Sorbo, who is in hiding because the US gov is trying to assassinate him for trying to replace the dollar with liberty coins. Not a good movie, but far better than the atlas shrugged trilogy.
Was it better or worse than Amerigeddon?
Haven’t seen it, but I’m going to believe Chuck Norris’s son made the better film.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 22, 2021, 04:33:38 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 22, 2021, 04:44:44 PM
Don Jr. getting as fat as his pops
:info
Post by: team filler on February 23, 2021, 12:17:23 AM
:dead
Post by: EchoRin on February 23, 2021, 07:05:07 AM
Post by: EchoRin on March 02, 2021, 11:28:16 AM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on March 02, 2021, 12:25:34 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 02, 2021, 03:20:49 PM
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1366755286707494916
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1366758541747490816
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on March 03, 2021, 12:33:23 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/hannahgais/status/1366914234341277697
Also new Daily Wire movie sounds hype!
https://mobile.twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1366838001641349131
Post by: VomKriege on March 03, 2021, 01:54:30 AM
Roger is just unmatched as a dirty politico hustler.
Post by: Nintex on March 03, 2021, 09:20:17 AM
Post by: team filler on March 04, 2021, 06:59:30 PM
Post by: team filler on March 04, 2021, 07:09:29 PM
:pimp
Post by: benjipwns on March 05, 2021, 12:55:57 AM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on March 05, 2021, 01:18:52 AM
:american
https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1367562330515660801
How long till we get a Neanderthal Lives Matter chyron on Fox?
Post by: team filler on March 05, 2021, 05:28:42 AM
throwback with king patrice
"for a girl that sucks dick for a living you talk too goddamn much" :dead
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on March 05, 2021, 12:18:19 PM
(https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/woke_seuss_vignettes-1024x778.jpg)
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on March 05, 2021, 07:21:03 PM
:girlaff
Post by: Nintex on March 05, 2021, 07:34:36 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on March 05, 2021, 08:55:41 PM
The Dr. Seuss shit, too. No one banned anything. The ESTATE and PUBLISHER decided to stop printing 6 specific books that no one even knows of for specific reasons and had they not made a press release about it no one would have even noticed.
;)
https://mobile.twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1367576180820443143
Post by: Transhuman on March 05, 2021, 09:30:12 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 05, 2021, 10:15:13 PM
Post by: team filler on March 05, 2021, 11:49:55 PM
:info
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 06, 2021, 12:47:11 AM
The Dr. Seuss shit, too. No one banned anything. The ESTATE and PUBLISHER decided to stop printing 6 specific books that no one even knows of for specific reasons and had they not made a press release about it no one would have even noticed.
;)
https://mobile.twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1367576180820443143
Smart move on the part of the Dr. Seuss Foundation. They're making mad scrilla courtesy of dumb conservatives. :neogaf
Post by: BIONIC on March 06, 2021, 01:45:33 AM
https://twitter.com/itripley/status/1368026345029111814
:info
You may not like it, but this is what peak wankness looks like :playa
Post by: team filler on March 06, 2021, 06:33:19 AM
jimmy da gawd :lol
Post by: Nintex on March 06, 2021, 12:46:46 PM
yes lets give the dog a gun :doge
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 06, 2021, 12:48:07 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Evz7vW3WEAQu9CE?format=jpg)
yes lets give the dog a gun :doge
(http://i.imgur.com/hNF5VKZ.jpg?1)
Post by: Nintex on March 07, 2021, 05:49:18 PM
:preach
Post by: naff on March 07, 2021, 05:58:52 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Evz7vW3WEAQu9CE?format=jpg)
yes lets give the dog a gun :doge
that site's an absolute shithole, but that is a p funny troll 8)
Post by: EchoRin on March 08, 2021, 01:47:57 AM
Turns out he really loves his wankdaddies lol
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0y_xnFVCN/
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on March 08, 2021, 11:48:27 AM
https://twitter.com/ChristnNitemare/status/1368628774502273028 (https://twitter.com/ChristnNitemare/status/1368628774502273028)
:preach
Damn going from daily appearances on Lou Dobbs to the Jim Bakker show.
Post by: naff on March 08, 2021, 03:50:42 PM
Some dude from Mumford & Sons was praising some wankdad book or something.
Turns out he really loves his wankdaddies lol
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0y_xnFVCN/
i once went to a party for this woman i hardly knew and she had all of mumford and sons records on vinyl. i never hung out with her again lol
Post by: Transhuman on March 08, 2021, 04:13:42 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on March 08, 2021, 05:46:11 PM
:dead
Post by: Nintex on March 08, 2021, 07:23:58 PM
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1368937507673546756 (https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1368937507673546756)
This Harry and Sparkle thing sure is fuel for wank daddery
Post by: team filler on March 09, 2021, 01:14:59 PM
:dead
Post by: Nintex on March 09, 2021, 05:49:45 PM
:sicko
The Yanks don't know that Piers obsession with Meghan Markle is a running joke on the tele :snob
Post by: Transhuman on March 09, 2021, 06:28:31 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 12, 2021, 02:35:56 PM
Post by: naff on March 16, 2021, 06:29:30 PM
https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1371856007203336194
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 16, 2021, 06:36:15 PM
Post by: Nintex on March 16, 2021, 06:40:11 PM
whoa, that was actually more racist than i expected, like one of the most racist things ive heard racistAnd these city boys don't even know what a farm looks like :neogaf
https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1371856007203336194
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on March 16, 2021, 06:51:58 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/scrowder/status/1368997905869266945
Post by: benjipwns on March 17, 2021, 03:17:14 PM
https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1371952543962648579
https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1371955379987419140
https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1371957212449476610
https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1371959762485645316
Post by: Transhuman on March 17, 2021, 09:34:53 PM
Post by: naff on March 17, 2021, 09:47:34 PM
Post by: Transhuman on March 17, 2021, 10:01:23 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 18, 2021, 05:17:37 PM
Post by: OnlyRegret on March 18, 2021, 07:17:31 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on March 19, 2021, 05:34:37 PM
Vape dad :ohyeah
https://mobile.twitter.com/HardFactorNews/status/1372744603330351104
Post by: BIONIC on March 19, 2021, 05:43:04 PM
Post by: EchoRin on March 19, 2021, 07:15:28 PM
https://twitter.com/Dan_Arrows/status/1372435373301850115
Post by: EchoRin on March 19, 2021, 07:39:15 PM
Jesus Christ. WAP really did a number on these boneheads, huh? 6 months ago during the music video (which somehow I still haven't watched) and now again with a Grammy performance (which I also haven't seen. :thinking)
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 19, 2021, 09:12:46 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on March 19, 2021, 09:28:18 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/NRO/status/1372639014977683457
Post by: Nintex on March 20, 2021, 05:29:28 AM
:kermit
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 23, 2021, 03:19:36 PM
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I'm not yet a student, but I'm going to be next semester. I'm morally opposed to joining unions in general, as I have many problems with teachers' unions, and I'm especially opposed to breaching the faith of students who trust us to provide a service for which they pay tuition.
My questions being:
1) Do I have a chance to come to campus, possibly taking TA positions, without participating in the power structure of the union, which I personally oppressive and stifling to individualism?
2) If not, what legal options would I have to not participate in collective action of the type that is currently taking place on campus? For instance, by continuing study sessions for students?
Thank you very much for listening to my concerns,
And then sent this email to the entire dept. 2 seconds later
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PS Attaching the grad. office, in case they are better able to answer my questions. Thanks in advance
:dead
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 23, 2021, 04:10:34 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 23, 2021, 04:12:33 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 23, 2021, 04:23:18 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 23, 2021, 04:25:13 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 23, 2021, 04:46:00 PM
Scabs scab for money but who scabs because they find the power structure of unions personally oppressive and stifling to individualism?
Libertarians
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tZWwqggSdQ
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Post by: benjipwns on March 23, 2021, 11:21:19 PM
https://twitter.com/KaitMarieox/status/1373774980169805827
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on March 24, 2021, 05:38:51 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/ZTPetrizzo/status/1374414551421120514
Post by: Pissy F Benny on March 24, 2021, 05:44:58 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on March 24, 2021, 06:24:40 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/willsommer/status/1373677102348824584
Post by: Nintex on March 24, 2021, 08:11:59 PM
lmao
Post by: team filler on March 25, 2021, 03:15:58 AM
Post by: BIONIC on March 25, 2021, 03:27:48 AM
Post by: team filler on March 27, 2021, 12:06:03 AM
The fuck is up with McCain’s hair :kobeyuck :yuckher hair stylist on the view is gay and hates her
Post by: Nintex on March 27, 2021, 05:54:41 AM
Post by: team filler on March 29, 2021, 02:50:24 AM
:mueller
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on March 29, 2021, 01:44:43 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1376546217270910981
Post by: Nintex on March 29, 2021, 03:16:39 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 29, 2021, 07:19:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtGGkZTT9do
Oh, same account has the whole thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qqi5Cv4OFJg
*We get stuff from them every so often because I used the office's mailing address to get a bunch of free pocket constitutions once years ago. :lol
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 29, 2021, 07:42:25 PM
*We get stuff from them every so often because I used the office's mailing address to get a bunch of free pocket constitutions once years ago. :lol
:dead
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 29, 2021, 08:53:31 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 29, 2021, 08:59:40 PM
Both Hercules and Superman are rightwing nuts? :(
Never meet your heroes.
Post by: benjipwns on March 29, 2021, 10:35:15 PM
Post by: naff on March 29, 2021, 10:57:04 PM
Post by: team filler on March 30, 2021, 03:04:54 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTiwyzHsjKMbide making usa more like chiner, but also woke ::) best part about chiner is it's not woke 8)
Post by: Nintex on March 30, 2021, 01:59:13 PM
Unless he announces his 2024 candidacy Donald is now officially a wankdad who crashes weddings
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 30, 2021, 02:12:04 PM
Post by: Nintex on March 30, 2021, 02:36:58 PM
I wouldn't invite the interns though :trumps
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on March 30, 2021, 08:23:14 PM
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Free speech is one of the hallmarks of our Constitutional Republic, as enshrined in the Bill of Rights. It is no coincidence that nations that have free speech also have a free enterprise system and freedom of religion. Inversely, nations that deny free speech tread upon the free enterprise system and freedom of religion. Americans want to remain free. Americans are craving news and information that is not filtered through the radical worldview of today’s liberal media intelligentsia, or deep state actors.Frank, the voice of free speech, will be the platform for Americans who want to defend life, liberty, and all the freedoms that have marked America as the longest running Constitutional Republic in the history of the world. On this platform you will find a home where you can post videos, livestream television, distribute news and information, and find community and fellowship with likeminded Americans. Frank will be a home for major influencers, to micro influencers, to average Americans wanting to share in the constitutional right of freedom of speech and freedom of expression. We hope you will join our community and let freedom ring.
https://frankspeech.com/
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"It is going to be the most safest, securest and able to handle a hundred, two hundred, a billion people," Lindell said
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Lindell said: "None of these guys are going to be able to take this down. We're gonna all come over there. All the influencers... all these people that can't say on their podcasts the word 'Dominion,' or they can't say 'vaccine, a vaccine is bad for you.'
"They are going to be able to speak out and speak freely and it's going to be amazing. The voices of hundreds of millions of people are going to be heard."
https://www.newsweek.com/mypillow-ceo-mike-lindell-interview-social-media-network-frank-billion-people-1579449
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVPqOLuVnpg
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lmM1m1GAW0o/U18qRLbINGI/AAAAAAAAJwo/m33mQEaiqMk/s1600/The-King-of-Comedy-ending.jpg)
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 31, 2021, 03:41:18 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on April 01, 2021, 01:35:03 PM
:dsp
Post by: BIONIC on April 03, 2021, 02:24:58 PM
:bedroomeyes
Post by: team filler on April 03, 2021, 03:07:49 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 03, 2021, 03:30:37 PM
Post by: Transhuman on April 03, 2021, 06:00:38 PM
Quote
The project has had to operate under the alias 1973 at its Louisiana shooting locations to avoid controversy, and some crew members have complained about directorial bumbling by the replacement directors, Loeb and production partner Cathy Allyn—both first-timers. On Thursday, before my interview with Bernsen, a Roe production intern stole my notepad and wouldn’t give it back until police intervened. Bernsen, who witnessed the dust-up, told me the man snatched my notes because “the movie’s been under great attack.
“Sometimes we grab, sometimes we talk to you,” Bernsen said.
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 03, 2021, 07:22:51 PM
Or matter at all really. :neogaf
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on April 03, 2021, 07:30:01 PM
I like that they included Jamie Kennedy in the line-up of "stars" as if he matters to anyone who would watch this. :heh
Or matter at all really. :neogaf
Makes sense that they got one of the initial victims of cancel culture.
https://youtu.be/DfzThMe7bBM
Post by: benjipwns on April 03, 2021, 09:47:26 PM
https://youtu.be/HUkEpm8kPyQThat's not part of the #Dineshverse, FALSE ADVERTISING.
:bedroomeyes
#ReleaseTheDSouzaCut
Post by: benjipwns on April 03, 2021, 11:04:16 PM
edit:
Quote from: https://www.thedailybeast.com/inside-roe-v-wade-a-disturbing-anti-abortion-film-featuring-milo-yiannopoulos-and-tomi-lahren
Roe v. Wade is currently filming under the title 1973. Crew members have told The Daily Beast that the filmmakers have misrepresented the project from Day 1, distributing a “whitewashed synopsis” to location contacts in order to convince them to film at their respective spots. “Tulane University has been the only main [location] where we started shooting there and then they found out what the movie was about and kicked us out,” one crew member said. “There are other locations where they’ve just said no. The whole attitude on the project has been, ‘Don’t tell anyone any more than you have to tell them.’”It was too anti-abortion for Stephen Baldwin and Kevin Sorbo. :neogaf
This attitude extended to members of the supporting cast and crew, many of whom were told that the film was a vaguely pro-life project tackling the landmark Roe v. Wade Supreme Court case “from another perspective,” only to arrive on set, view the script, and be shocked by the extremity of its point of view. “When I read the first two pages, I was like what the fuck is this?” one crew member told The Daily Beast.
The film’s director and first assistant director dropped out on the first day of shooting, forcing producing partners Loeb and Allyn, who co-wrote the screenplay, to assume directorial duties. A costumer, location manager, and several other crew members abandoned the project upon learning of its severe anti-abortion content.
“They’re not keeping people in the loop with the script,” one crew member said. “When people finally receive the script, they’ve dropped out really fast. After people started dropping out, they said, ‘OK, don’t send people the scripts anymore.’ Instead, they’ve been changing lines and scenes before they shoot.”
Conservative actors Stephen Baldwin and Kevin Sorbo were initially cast as Supreme Court justices but left upon receiving the script. “That’s where it started as far as not sending out full scripts to actors, because they backed out and then it was a mad rush to find people to be the Supreme Court justices, and when they got on set they had no idea what they were doing. They didn’t get their lines until they got on set. They were kept in the dark,” according to a crew member.
Post by: team filler on April 03, 2021, 11:42:38 PM
Post by: EchoRin on April 04, 2021, 02:42:23 AM
:-\
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 04, 2021, 07:44:41 PM
Post by: BIONIC on April 04, 2021, 08:18:17 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on April 05, 2021, 02:46:10 PM
:huh
Post by: Nintex on April 05, 2021, 03:03:16 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 05, 2021, 03:04:37 PM
edit: no maybe he's just being a wank
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1378742132442333190
Post by: Nintex on April 05, 2021, 03:19:54 PM
:doge
Post by: benjipwns on April 05, 2021, 07:33:24 PM
Post by: naff on April 05, 2021, 09:47:04 PM
Post by: naff on April 05, 2021, 09:57:52 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 05, 2021, 10:16:58 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Before someone says it, free speech and cancel culture are not the same thing, cancel culture isn't even a single thing, but wank dads us it in the same way
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Post by: Transhuman on April 05, 2021, 10:28:03 PM
I don't know if i'd call her transphobic. She probably is, but if not putting pronouns in her bio is the only evidence...
As for the whole "intolerance to Republicans is the new anti-semitism", surely that's a statement that can be eye-rolled at. Why prove her right? People were laughing at the shit she was saying before they fired her
Post by: naff on April 05, 2021, 10:28:53 PM
Post by: naff on April 05, 2021, 10:37:11 PM
https://twitter.com/ginacarano/status/1305075373701357568
I don't know if i'd call her transphobic. She probably is, but if not putting pronouns in her bio is the only evidence...
As for the whole "intolerance to Republicans is the new anti-semitism", surely that's a statement that can be eye-rolled at. Why prove her right? People were laughing at the shit she was saying before they fired her
oh yeah, i don't care about carano. making the pronouns statement is clearly a transphobic act to me, but that's not why she got fired. p sure it was all the covid hoaxer, anti-mask, borderline anti-semitic stuff. tbh, she likely isn't consciously transphobic or an intentionally bad person. it's also not surprising to me disney doesn't want someone so prominently displayed on their shows who so publically has brain worms. 1st amendment comes with the caveat that companies have the freedom to fire your ass
Post by: Transhuman on April 05, 2021, 10:50:25 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 05, 2021, 10:56:35 PM
Post by: team filler on April 06, 2021, 04:29:54 AM
She probably could have apologised and kept her job. She wouldn't even had to mean it. Hard to feel sorry for a self-immolation like that. Worms must be deephere we are pretending to care about trans people for free. she could have got millions for it :doge
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on April 06, 2021, 12:32:44 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1379288433013690369
Post by: Nintex on April 06, 2021, 04:38:35 PM
Should we boycott baseball?
- Yes, because I don't care
- You can't find the channel
- Why not
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 06, 2021, 07:43:02 PM
Post by: chronovore on April 07, 2021, 01:20:14 AM
The Marvel monopoly is putting a target on the original wank dad.
https://mobile.twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1379288433013690369
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/are-we-the-baddies
Post by: EchoRin on April 07, 2021, 09:35:51 AM
The Marvel monopoly is putting a target on the original wank dad.
https://mobile.twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1379288433013690369
I liked his first reaction:
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1379278957510541321
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on April 07, 2021, 09:05:14 PM
:brain
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on April 08, 2021, 04:28:05 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/publicroad/status/1380198507840204801
Also, lefties are getting real nervous about conservative humor.
https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/status/1380174620192555011
Post by: benjipwns on April 09, 2021, 12:16:08 AM
Post by: team filler on April 09, 2021, 01:38:59 AM
"they fly now?"
"they fly now!"
:thinking
Post by: Nintex on April 09, 2021, 04:45:35 AM
Beter watch out Comedy Central
Post by: Nintex on April 10, 2021, 07:07:07 AM
They're also grifting on that Marvel appearance.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EykLy_oVoAE6P6u?format=jpg)
:dead
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 10, 2021, 10:36:12 AM
Post by: team filler on April 10, 2021, 09:16:01 PM
king :pimp
Post by: benjipwns on April 11, 2021, 07:31:17 PM
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What does ‘Galaxy Brain’ mean?but also:
It’s an ironic meme about people who have bad takes. This is my meager attempt to reclaim it for my own purposes. My hope for Galaxy Brain is that it can be a space for big, complicated ideas to be discussed iteratively and without the ‘voice of God’ pressure to render an immediate judgement. I’m really interested in what the theorist Timothy Morton calls “hyperobjects,” a concept so all-encompassing that it is almost impossible to adequately describe. Much of what I write and think about tends to fall into these slippery categories. Lately, I feel like there’s less room for this kind of thinking out loud and ambiguity in traditional media. Let’s get Big Brains together!
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One of the names I was kicking around for this newsletter was Troubleshooter. The word’s origin comes from the “trouble men,” who were dispatched by phone companies back in the day to inspect the lines and find and fix the problems holding up various communications. If you stretch the definition a bit, it bears some resemblance to what I’ve tried to with my journalism: spot and diagnose weird problems that are distorting or blocking the way we communicate.:brain
When I joined BuzzFeed, I became obsessed with trying to trace the way that hastily considered decisions by the people who design our technologies could ripple across the internet.
So I started reporting. It led me to extensively document the first decade of Twitter’s failure to tackle its harassment problem. I charted the upside down world of the pro-Trump media. I profiled one of its most ridiculous members (Bill Mitchell) and one of its most dangerous (Alex Jones). Sometimes my stories were absurd, like when I documented the great poop emoji feud of 2017 or the people who battle to reply to Trump tweets, and some of the work has been investigative — at the Times I was part of a team that revealed a massive smartphone location data set and its myriad security and privacy dangers.
Post by: Nintex on April 12, 2021, 12:52:06 PM
A rival to Amazon
Next, a weapon to surpass Metal Gear
8)
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on April 12, 2021, 01:01:47 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 12, 2021, 04:30:46 PM
Post by: Nintex on April 12, 2021, 06:40:47 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on April 13, 2021, 12:24:36 PM
https://frankspeech.com/ (Watch the video on the site to lose brain cells)
Note, the following things are not considered free speech on Frank: porn, death threats, the c word, the n word, the f word, and saying anything bad about God.
Edit: more lols
https://mobile.twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1381990026104483852
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 13, 2021, 01:21:33 PM
Post by: benjipwns on April 13, 2021, 11:58:13 PM
Post by: benjipwns on April 14, 2021, 02:17:24 AM
https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1379515586795999233
:info
Post by: Transhuman on April 14, 2021, 02:48:00 AM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on April 14, 2021, 02:48:42 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1382384076108271617
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 14, 2021, 04:18:05 PM
Post by: team filler on April 15, 2021, 03:11:47 AM
:lol
Post by: Nintex on April 15, 2021, 12:32:36 PM
I take my place among the trailblazers :snob
and this:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ey_sZQEVEAEtlDz?format=jpg&name=small)
Is what we in the business call a 'cuck'
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 15, 2021, 04:04:12 PM
Post by: naff on April 15, 2021, 05:19:47 PM
Post by: team filler on April 15, 2021, 06:00:11 PM
Post by: naff on April 15, 2021, 06:58:56 PM
looking into it more the reaction to her tweet about raya and avatar is pretty funny, it's a part of dumb fuck knee jerk twitter i somehow manage to avoid. mostly i just see jokes, mostly bad, these days. white people racing to asian cultures defence on shit like this is on par with white people posting black squares to their instagrams. sad, performative bullshit.
anyway. thinking about twitter dramas, one of my favourite dramas of all time is when hannibal buress came out against rent control and suggested his fans donate to a landlord organisation :lol so good. gottem
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on April 15, 2021, 08:19:16 PM
:dead
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on April 19, 2021, 11:58:57 AM
https://frankspeech.com/
Mike Flynn was just on telling people to run for dog catcher.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ZTPetrizzo/status/1384146820540948480
:doge
https://mobile.twitter.com/ZTPetrizzo/status/1384165508153430023
:lol
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 19, 2021, 12:20:28 PM
Post by: Nintex on April 19, 2021, 01:46:58 PM
Oh god, our own millenial wank thot has gone international :kermit
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on April 19, 2021, 04:23:04 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/ZTPetrizzo/status/1384195329193504768
:lol :lol
Edit: Lindell not happy people are talking about that instead of the launch of the universe’s greatest site.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ZTPetrizzo/status/1384312450057654274
Post by: team filler on April 19, 2021, 07:21:20 PM
Post by: VomKriege on April 20, 2021, 02:57:57 AM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 20, 2021, 01:09:50 PM
Post by: Nintex on April 20, 2021, 02:04:15 PM
It looks just like an average blog site lmao
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 20, 2021, 03:43:53 PM
Post by: benjipwns on April 20, 2021, 05:51:10 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/JgZ1i6v.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/xEEPIGE.png)
https://www.elbertguillorysamerica.com/
:american
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 20, 2021, 07:11:53 PM
new wank material in
(https://i.imgur.com/JgZ1i6v.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/xEEPIGE.png)
https://www.elbertguillorysamerica.com/
:american
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Up until 2007, Guillory had been a registered Republican and served on the Louisiana Republican state central committee. He became a Democrat in 2007 when he first ran for the state House in the heavily Democratic District 40.
:neogaf
Post by: benjipwns on April 20, 2021, 07:25:10 PM
Post by: benjipwns on April 20, 2021, 08:52:42 PM
https://twitter.com/NikkiMcR/status/1384663026364817416
https://twitter.com/TomiLahren/status/1384630454645575686
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1384619842599366659
Post by: chronovore on April 20, 2021, 10:02:31 PM
Post by: benjipwns on April 20, 2021, 11:04:40 PM
https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1384702836857053185
Post by: VomKriege on April 21, 2021, 12:43:32 PM
https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1384346439766192132
:borys
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on April 22, 2021, 02:54:38 PM
Ben loves that wood.
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 22, 2021, 03:36:34 PM
Post by: team filler on April 22, 2021, 04:28:02 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 22, 2021, 04:59:06 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on April 22, 2021, 04:59:11 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on April 23, 2021, 01:22:17 PM
:neogaf
Post by: Nintex on April 23, 2021, 01:34:35 PM
The mad man :lawd
Fuck the haters, it's gonna work, 8)
Post by: EchoRin on April 25, 2021, 04:51:19 PM
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Who would you invite to your dream dinner party?
Jordan Peterson: he’s so interesting.
Lol. I gotta see who this lady is to understand her vibe.
Post by: team filler on April 26, 2021, 04:06:41 AM
bbc slut annihilated by professor :doge
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 26, 2021, 05:19:52 AM
Post by: team filler on April 26, 2021, 03:28:13 PM
umar da gawd :whoo
Post by: Nintex on April 26, 2021, 06:23:37 PM
When do we crown the new king?
Post by: team filler on April 27, 2021, 03:20:07 AM
he don't miss :whew
Post by: benjipwns on April 29, 2021, 05:27:05 AM
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SIOUX FALLS, S.D. — MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell says he'll launch his new social media site and podcast platform, dubbed Frank, at a rally at the Corn Palace in Mitchell, S.D., on May 10.
Lindell made the announcement Wednesday, April 28, on the podcast "Bannon's War Room" hosted by Steve Bannon, a former top adviser to President Donald Trump.
"That's going to be the grand, grand opening to the world," Lindell said. "I just want to get the awareness of the Frank speech, for our free speech to get out there so they can't suppress us anymore."
Asked by Bannon why he picked the Corn Palace, a corn-coated tourist attraction and event facility in the town of about 16,000, Lindell said he had been there before, was "very familiar" with South Dakota and was a big supporter of Kristi Noem, the state's Republican governor, and her pandemic decision to reject any statewide mask mandates or shutdowns.
"I love what the governor, Kristi Noem, has done there," he said.
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Attendance to the Corn Palace rally will be free and will be first come, first serve, Lindell said. Doors open at 4 p.m.
Whoever shows up will get a free copy of Lindell's book, "What Are the Odds? From Crack Addict to CEO." Even if you show up and can't get in, you'll get his free book, Lindell said.
Post by: Nintex on April 29, 2021, 08:43:40 AM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on April 29, 2021, 10:26:01 AM
:dobbs
Post by: naff on April 29, 2021, 07:09:28 PM
https://twitter.com/EvaVlaar/status/1384050435951005705 (https://twitter.com/EvaVlaar/status/1384050435951005705)
Oh god, our own millenial wank thot has gone international :kermit
wut
mouth flapping but i hear nothing salient. sooo conservatives need to stop leaving it up to the free market and instilling their viewpoints into more film and television? i thought the MCU covered that spectrum pretty well
Post by: Nintex on April 29, 2021, 07:11:37 PM
Post by: naff on April 29, 2021, 07:14:24 PM
Post by: Nintex on May 05, 2021, 04:42:19 AM
:rejoice
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 05, 2021, 04:46:46 AM
Post by: team filler on May 05, 2021, 04:59:02 AM
Post by: Nintex on May 05, 2021, 05:50:14 AM
The future of the CIA
Although one has to wonder is it really a downgrade from Flynn holding the trigger or the Mar A Lago dinner party deciding who lives and who dies.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
yes it is
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Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 05, 2021, 10:25:04 AM
is no match for :maduro da gawd
:trumps
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 05, 2021, 10:30:27 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 05, 2021, 10:38:11 AM
its hard to overthrow a foreign government when half of their staff are trying to cancel their manager because he once shook hands with Donald Trump
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 05, 2021, 01:43:27 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 05, 2021, 02:09:49 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on May 06, 2021, 03:53:34 PM
:neogaf
https://mobile.twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1389978319454572544
:umad
lmao at thinking that an ad for the CIA signals meaningful change in they way they do things :neogaf
At least we are getting good material for /r/thathappened
https://mobile.twitter.com/mikepompeo/status/1389610111430238214
Post by: Nintex on May 06, 2021, 04:00:09 PM
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 06, 2021, 07:37:04 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/JDVance1/status/1389935672912404481
:neogaf
More power than the United Nations? So...more power than...nothing? :neogaf
Post by: benjipwns on May 10, 2021, 11:48:29 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on May 11, 2021, 11:05:29 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/ZTPetrizzo/status/1391884225268301824
https://youtu.be/IwolVgXkcSU
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 11, 2021, 12:16:26 PM
It was a hype rally.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ZTPetrizzo/status/1391884225268301824
https://youtu.be/IwolVgXkcSU
Everyone: "SNL sucks now, it was great in the 80's!" :cryingwojak
80's SNL:
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on May 11, 2021, 12:25:13 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=01_UKRLCvD4
Post by: benjipwns on May 11, 2021, 11:16:42 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 13, 2021, 02:28:23 AM
:badass
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 13, 2021, 02:31:19 AM
Post by: Transhuman on May 13, 2021, 02:46:19 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 13, 2021, 11:29:18 AM
Post by: Nintex on May 13, 2021, 01:15:19 PM
Excuse me sir will you please stop
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on May 14, 2021, 03:40:15 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKSOZ48qxzc
https://mobile.twitter.com/ZTPetrizzo/status/1392970075905400832
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on May 14, 2021, 06:10:34 PM
:doge
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 14, 2021, 07:36:10 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/gregkellyusa/status/1392508988038787074
:doge
People are pointing out that isn't even his picture, it's at least a decade old. :neogaf
Post by: benjipwns on May 17, 2021, 12:48:31 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 17, 2021, 12:00:01 PM
Post by: team filler on May 18, 2021, 12:28:47 AM
https://twitter.com/NickJFuentes/status/1394466029347160064
:info
Post by: Nintex on May 18, 2021, 04:01:02 AM
Post by: benjipwns on May 18, 2021, 10:50:15 PM
Post by: Nintex on May 22, 2021, 12:07:52 PM
https://twitter.com/SonjaHHarris/status/1396110925309034496 (https://twitter.com/SonjaHHarris/status/1396110925309034496)
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 22, 2021, 02:43:52 PM
Post by: Tripon on May 22, 2021, 03:18:07 PM
2012
(https://s.hdnux.com/photos/15/16/36/3467181/41/1200x0.jpg)
2021
(https://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2021/02/19/47bf192c-6676-405f-896a-2a1f71ed80fa/thumbnail/1920x1080/fb053c7dfc55ca2405c9d197045e16a4/cbsn-fusion-ted-cruz-cancun-trip-during-texas-winter-storm-thumbnail-649295-640x360.jpg)
Post by: BIONIC on May 22, 2021, 04:33:17 PM
Both pics look like slimy fucks who have low t, have never been in a gym, have never been in a fight, have never been in any type of athletics beside maybe Babe Ruth baseball, and turn into a puddle of goo at the hint of anyone getting aggressive with him
:badass
Post by: benjipwns on May 27, 2021, 11:54:08 AM
Quote from: https://www.city-journal.org/lockheed-martins-woke-industrial-complex
Last year, Lockheed Martin Corporation, the nation’s largest defense contractor, sent white male executives to a three-day diversity-training program aimed at deconstructing their “white male culture” and encouraging them to atone for their “white male privilege,” according to documents I have obtained.
The program, hosted on Zoom for a cohort of 13 Lockheed employees, was led by the diversity-consulting firm White Men As Full Diversity Partners, which specializes in helping white males “awaken together.”
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 27, 2021, 12:18:01 PM
first the soy-i-a and now lockheed going full woke, what the fuck is going on in the world
Post by: Transhuman on May 27, 2021, 12:22:47 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 27, 2021, 12:33:12 PM
Post by: Nintex on May 27, 2021, 03:49:35 PM
(https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-5d981a7488486d7799f33721f0f60231)
Now they only need a barely cognitive puppet in power to loot the treasury and citizens and share the wealth in the name of climate and equality.
oh
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 28, 2021, 05:37:16 PM
Post by: Nintex on May 28, 2021, 06:24:33 PM
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1397624206687457284 (https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1397624206687457284)
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on May 28, 2021, 08:08:30 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/RepDanCrenshaw/status/1398362624287465472
Post by: Nintex on May 28, 2021, 08:11:22 PM
Post by: team filler on May 28, 2021, 09:50:40 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 29, 2021, 05:32:35 PM
More woke CIA fanfic incoming.https://twitter.com/bernybelvedere/status/1398447888871706628
https://mobile.twitter.com/RepDanCrenshaw/status/1398362624287465472
Post by: benjipwns on May 29, 2021, 05:56:01 PM
Post by: Nintex on May 29, 2021, 06:52:27 PM
Let's face it. China was probably developing a virus to use on the Uyghurs, Hong Kong, Taiwan or both. A silent killer so there wouldn't be images of Chinese tanks and planes on the news.Cutting defense (or rather 'offense') spending is a great idea.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1397624206687457284 (https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1397624206687457284)
Actually what makes the most sense is it was a naturally occurring virus in the area, the lab then studied it, and then there was a leak, and the Chinese government is trying to hide that they were studying it earlier than originally thought. We already know there were cases going back to at least October in the area, which is about a month earlier than when reports about the virus started going international. However, neither side of the debate wants to admit it could be BOTH, instead locking themselves into an either/or thing on some culture warz bullshit. Also many of the lab people suggesting or outright saying China manufactured the virus and intentionally let it out.
Only images of the Chinese military coming to 'rescue' them. They knew they were fucked, their scientists knew it but once it was out they also made sure the WHO would not warn the rest of the world.
The CCP intentionally sterilize women, they intentionally built concentration camps and they intentionally lied to the WHO.
China is lucky(?) that more people are on the hook for this. Fauci for signing the grants and pushing through this type of research considered to be too dangerous and thus not allowed in the US.
They simply moved the research (for scientific reasons of course) to China where they could more easily bend the rules. The story now is that the 'real' Gain of Function program was done under the required security conditions.
But that the Chinese also ran a second program of their own based in another section of the lab on the same computer network with less security. Outside of the official internationally monitored program they could do what they wanted.
Our public broadcaster said that 'the political situation had changed' and thus this came to light. But that is not the case. What changed is that the WHO send a team of CCP shills to Wuhan and the CCP didn't even give them rope to hang themselves or a can of infected bat soup. Not that it matters because nothing will really change.
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 29, 2021, 07:50:43 PM
Let's face it. China was probably developing a virus to use on the Uyghurs, Hong Kong, Taiwan or both. A silent killer so there wouldn't be images of Chinese tanks and planes on the news.Cutting defense (or rather 'offense') spending is a great idea.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1397624206687457284 (https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1397624206687457284)
Actually what makes the most sense is it was a naturally occurring virus in the area, the lab then studied it, and then there was a leak, and the Chinese government is trying to hide that they were studying it earlier than originally thought. We already know there were cases going back to at least October in the area, which is about a month earlier than when reports about the virus started going international. However, neither side of the debate wants to admit it could be BOTH, instead locking themselves into an either/or thing on some culture warz bullshit. Also many of the lab people suggesting or outright saying China manufactured the virus and intentionally let it out.
Only images of the Chinese military coming to 'rescue' them. They knew they were fucked, their scientists knew it but once it was out they also made sure the WHO would not warn the rest of the world.
The CCP intentionally sterilize women, they intentionally built concentration camps and they intentionally lied to the WHO.
China is lucky(?) that more people are on the hook for this. Fauci for signing the grants and pushing through this type of research considered to be too dangerous and thus not allowed in the US.
They simply moved the research (for scientific reasons of course) to China where they could more easily bend the rules. The story now is that the 'real' Gain of Function program was done under the required security conditions.
But that the Chinese also ran a second program of their own based in another section of the lab on the same computer network with less security. Outside of the official internationally monitored program they could do what they wanted.
Our public broadcaster said that 'the political situation had changed' and thus this came to light. But that is not the case. What changed is that the WHO send a team of CCP shills to Wuhan and the CCP didn't even give them rope to hang themselves or a can of infected bat soup. Not that it matters because nothing will really change.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9O94UTDAJQ
Post by: benjipwns on May 29, 2021, 10:10:52 PM
Post by: naff on May 31, 2021, 06:16:27 PM
https://open.spotify.com/episode/3OsJABmfmeDwoItwYAdrda?si=6720f04e113d48cf
Post by: EchoRin on June 01, 2021, 05:00:02 PM
:lol :lol :lol
edit: article that led me to the video
https://www.yahoo.com/news/diversifying-virginia-suburb-fight-over-083017592.html
Post by: Nintex on June 01, 2021, 07:11:35 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on June 02, 2021, 01:08:34 AM
:biden
Post by: Nintex on June 02, 2021, 03:28:00 AM
Oh and billy is going to work for amazon
Post by: benjipwns on June 02, 2021, 11:36:46 AM
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The Indictment
The Democrats have already seceded from America’s historic conception of nationhood in many respects:
THEY have attacked, on a relentless and increasingly hysterical basis, white Americans, who as the overwhelming majority population, were the primary developers of America’s cultural, intellectual, and political heritage, with all its successes as well as its shortcomings. In doing so, they attack the traditions, history, and values developed by those generations of Americans that historically bound together Americans of all races, religions, and backgrounds.
THEY have occupied our nation’s capital with thousands of troops as if the American people were a foreign foe. This was done in response to a nonexistent threat on the pretext of a shocking but solitary riot, wherein everyone who died was a Trump supporter and none of the so-called “insurgents” was armed. They have since held many of those participating, even peripherally, in prison for months, often in solitary confinement, on absurdly inflated charges, as a political punishment and a warning to future dissidents.
THEY have engaged in bureaucratic and judicial nullification of our laws, particularly on immigration—perhaps the most important element in determining who makes up the American polity. Donald Trump ran on the platform of toughening up immigration policy. It was his defining issue.
Yet the Left made a mockery of the rule of law, using the bureaucracy to throw up procedural roadblock after procedural roadblock to Trump’s agenda, while left-wing judges issued blatantly absurd rulings using invented doctrines to block Trump’s rescission of Obama’s Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals order and accuse the administration of a “Muslim ban” that, in fact, was based heavily on an earlier Obama Administration effort.
THEY have campaigned for decades to neuter the Second Amendment and disarm Americans, based on a misreading of constitutional rights and an empirically unjustified paranoia about white men and guns, pushed relentlessly in their corporate media. Terrified of urban violence, but unable to acknowledge this because of their own political taboos, affluent white leftists have sought to train their rhetorical and legal fire on groups with relatively low rates of crime, pushing ineffective policies that do not keep us safe but do keep us under their control.
THEY have attacked us through their Big Tech proxies, damaging our ability to speak freely in the new public square, coordinate political action, or share information with each other outside of a tightly-controlled corporate media apparatus.
This censorship campaign started with popular but more politically marginalized figures such as Alex Jones and Milo Yiannopoulos and moved, boiling the frog slowly, to deplatforming the sitting president of the United States. Thousands of right-wing dissidents, many with large followings, have been effectively removed from public discourse for political reasons, often with only the flimsiest proceduralist justifications. When Project Veritas conducted devastating undercover exposes on the misbehavior of quasi-state corporate media, in which key figures from these entities actually directly admitted they are engaged in propaganda, the group was banned from social media.
THEY have pursued race-based reparations/wealth confiscation from one set of Americans to another based purely on skin color in blatant contradiction of the Constitution’s promise of equal protection under the laws. Many of our existing welfare systems are, on a net basis, race-based wealth transfers. But to racialize such transfers explicitly represents a dramatic escalation in the Democrats’ war on the equality guaranteed to us in our founding documents.
THEY have turned the media into a propaganda arm of the ruling political party, using their media proxies to engage in a full-time war against Trump’s policies and any policy they oppose. Journalists have abandoned all pretenses of fairness and balance. During the election campaign, they censored or refused to report on stories, such as Hunter Biden’s possible involvement with his father in corrupt dealings with the Chinese government, that would negatively affect Democrats. This was done in conjunction with the coordinated demonization of the opposition candidate.
THEY have used instruments of the state such as the IRS (under Lois Lerner) the FBI (Russiagate) and the Department of Defense (attacking Tucker Carlson) and numerous other agencies to attack political opponents. Political allies of President Trump were investigated and prosecuted by the government in ways that were transparently focused on taking down the duly elected president.
THEY have blatantly rigged the election process—changing of rules in violation of state law, manipulating debate rules and polls, and relentlessly pushing for an unconstitutional federalization of state election laws.
THEY have engaged in asymmetric street violence against us. For the Left, their violence is speech, and our speech is violence. One-third of “very liberal” whites believe violence can be justified in pursuing political goals, vs. just 4 percent of “very conservative” whites. They have enabled their armed and violent wings to cause billions of dollars of damage during the George Floyd and Antifa riots, making them the most expensive civil disturbances in history, while criminalizing the much smaller and far less significant street forces on the Right such as the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers, further using their control of the state legal apparatus to label their opponents as “domestic terrorists.”
THEY have removed entire groups of Americans who are not in their privileged demographics from roles in government leadership. Biden tweets about a cabinet that looks like America, when his cabinet of 25 has no whites of Protestant origin, a group that encompassed almost every one of the founding fathers and even today makes up about 40 percent of the electorate. Meanwhile, in the civil service, the Democrats are taking pains to out Trump supporters and ban them from government jobs. Even the military is now falling under their assault.
THEY have erased our history—tearing down our statues, renaming our schools, and revising our curricula to focus on a radical and racist doctrine of critical race theory.
THEY have corrupted our jury system—with Representative Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) and Joe Biden flagrantly involving themselves in a local jury trial. The specter of mob violence hung over the Derrick Chauvin trial, as was clearly evident from the juror who spoke on the record, while other jurors blatantly broke their oaths of impartiality to obtain the required verdict.
THEY have locked us in our homes on the basis of often-arbitrary requirements and lack of evidence and enriched themselves dramatically in the process. Meanwhile, the most stringent lockdown proponents from Gretchen Whitmer in Michigan to Gavin Newsom in California have been found flagrantly violating their own lockdown orders. Furthermore, thousands of left-aligned “public health” professionals, many of them directly on the government payroll, advocated for the Black Lives Matter and Antifa protests and riots, during the heart of the pandemic, claiming that racism was a public health crisis.
THEY have attempted, most importantly, to change our fundamental structures of governance. In trying to add Puerto Rico and Washington, D.C. (which is specifically excluded from statehood in the Constitution) as states, they have attempted to fundamentally and unilaterally alter the congressional balance of power. They have attempted to end the Senate filibuster (a 183-year-old tradition of our governance) and pack the Supreme Court, by amending the 152-year-old Judiciary Act in a blatant attempt to remove the influence of the last branch of government they don’t control.
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 03, 2021, 02:04:58 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/JordanHedberg/status/1398627466885746691
:biden
Small town America suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on June 03, 2021, 02:52:15 PM
:dsp
The Nazis tried to warm us.
https://mobile.twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1400453305243869195
https://mobile.twitter.com/amconmag/status/1400105034759741441
Post by: Nintex on June 03, 2021, 06:08:27 PM
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A trans beaver with mastectomy scars in a children's show: America 2021 (From 'Blue's Clues'):titus
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 03, 2021, 07:11:33 PM
Post by: Nintex on June 04, 2021, 11:21:01 AM
“Look around you, and you can’t believe the depravity. You want to ask God, ‘How long?"
"Wait, are you Dr. Gorka?"
"No, even the thought is preposterous. I'm an Hungarian Student studying the finer American arts in my dwelling on my way to get my self an ale later as all students do.
But alas I understand the confusion the honourable doctor, radio host and former presidential advisor is quite famous in these parts I believe"
Post by: benjipwns on June 04, 2021, 02:50:03 PM
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How so? What could possibly be bad about this quixotic quest for equity, you ask? At best, it is poorly defined, and at worst it is incoherent and/or malevolent... I would even go so far as to posit that it belies communist sympathies, as a focus on “equality of outcome” as opposed to “equality of opportunity” so often does. Now, it is easy to derisively laugh at this communism dig, but harping against dirty commies here is only a tiny bit of a stretch: the Black Lives Matter co-founder describes herself as a ‘trained Marxist’, and I would challenge you to find me a heavily online tankie who opposes CRT and compelled diversity statements… go on… I’ll wait.:usacry
This then begs the question: what happens when such crypto-communism is allowed to creep into our once hallowed institutions? What happens when Marxists become our central bankers? The financial system loses all credibility and crumbles, of course. Trust and independence must be earned by meritocracy, competence, and institutional restraint; they are pissing it away for nothing, save for some warm fuzzy feelings. Stuff like this has absolutely destroyed the credibility of other countries many times over, and if the U.S. stays on this path, I am not sure how the IMF can credibly advocate for monetary independence overseas. You tell them to stop giving political handouts to political clientele, they'll just point to America and say you're doing exactly the same thing. The end game here is that USD will fall, the empire implodes, and Chicago becomes Chengdu.
Post by: benjipwns on June 04, 2021, 04:00:49 PM
Post by: EchoRin on June 04, 2021, 05:58:46 PM
Post by: Nintex on June 04, 2021, 07:20:30 PM
Has the GOP polled Lindell yet? :teehee
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on June 04, 2021, 07:24:51 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/julianfeeld/status/1400591450669293574
Post by: benjipwns on June 04, 2021, 09:38:08 PM
Post by: naff on June 04, 2021, 10:51:47 PM
Post by: Nintex on June 05, 2021, 10:42:30 AM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on June 08, 2021, 01:54:03 PM
Two kings in the same room! Better delay Christmas at this point!
Post by: benjipwns on June 08, 2021, 02:35:21 PM
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Three groups opposed to Covid restrictions, masks, and vaccines are hosting conspiracy theorist Naomi Wolf for a fundraiser entitled "Liberate Our Five Freedoms."
The event is going to be held on Juneteenth, the holiday celebrating the end of chattel slavery in the US. Event organizer Kathryn Levin told me that in her view, it's appropriate.
"The 19th is a day of emancipation, and it's a day when we claim our freedom," said Levin. "It's when we see that we are not slaves to mandate. It's when we take our power back."
I asked Levin how she analogized American chattel slavery—where slaves were whipped, beaten, raped, and murdered by their white masters for centuries—to the temporary restrictions over the last 15 months due to the pandemic.
"We have been enslaved by our government," she replied.
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Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on June 08, 2021, 03:32:36 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3F6S0IWUAAc-27.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3GORdmXoAcQqjD.jpg)
Post by: Nintex on June 08, 2021, 03:59:03 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/benpershing/status/1401911641986506758
Two kings in the same room! Better delay Christmas at this point!
Why didn't they invite Lou? ???
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 08, 2021, 04:32:47 PM
Can’t believe they banned the top comedy account on Twitter.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3F6S0IWUAAc-27.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3GORdmXoAcQqjD.jpg)
i felt the jellyfish genes swim into me when Joe biden and his corrupt cronies held me at gunpoint and forced me to have the Pfizer :stahp
Post by: Nintex on June 08, 2021, 04:57:50 PM
Thank you for participating in Operation Warp Speed patriot :saluteCan’t believe they banned the top comedy account on Twitter.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3F6S0IWUAAc-27.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3GORdmXoAcQqjD.jpg)
i felt the jellyfish genes swim into me when Joe biden and his corrupt cronies held me at gunpoint and forced me to have the Pfizer :stahp
Post by: benjipwns on June 09, 2021, 12:07:44 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 09, 2021, 12:11:19 PM
Post by: benjipwns on June 09, 2021, 12:24:56 PM
You will be made to care.https://twitter.com/gregkellyusa/status/1402643955695693826
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 09, 2021, 12:50:07 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 09, 2021, 01:09:28 PM
Post by: Nintex on June 09, 2021, 05:53:22 PM
Post by: benjipwns on June 09, 2021, 09:06:49 PM
I refuse to believe that Greg Kelly is a real person.https://twitter.com/gregkellyusa/status/1402790142897704960
Post by: benjipwns on June 09, 2021, 11:01:00 PM
https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1402343078246158338
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 10, 2021, 02:51:02 PM
Post by: benjipwns on June 11, 2021, 01:33:55 PM
Post by: Nintex on June 11, 2021, 01:50:32 PM
yes I'm sure Trump supporters will be fuming to hear Trump was the biggest and bestest brother
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 11, 2021, 03:53:15 PM
Post by: benjipwns on June 11, 2021, 09:15:39 PM
Post by: benjipwns on June 14, 2021, 02:55:44 AM
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Another attendee, Pam Putzier, said she had no illusions that the election would be overturned, and she admitted that the crowd made up a small minority. But she is hopeful that a military coup will lead to the arrest of members of Congress and the reinstatement of Trump.
“Kick them all out. Surround the place and put them all in jail… I can’t even imagine it, but I’ll tell you what—I pray every night,” she said.
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“We have the biggest Jumbotron I think I’ve ever seen,” Lindell exclaimed —with two smaller Jumbotrons on either side and a gigantic American flag hanging from a pair of construction cranes on stage right.
“We’re going to have the American flag, the biggest flag that I know of,” he said.
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Anti-media sentiment was also rampant, though most of the ire was directed at Fox News—with whom Lindell had a spectacular falling out after the network opted to steer clear of him and his bonkers election fraud claims.
In April, Lindell told a podcast hosted by Steve Bannon that he had hired private investigators to find out why Fox News had stopped booking him. “Where is Fox News? Shame on you Fox News!” Lindell yelled into the mic at the beginning of his speech, calling it “disgusting what they’ve done to our country.”
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The lineup included three Black speakers—the duo Diamond and Silk, who used to appear regularly on Fox News until they began promoting anti-vax theories, and former Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke, the firebrand conservative known for his inflammatory rhetoric against Black Lives Matter and the mistreatment of inmates at the county jail until he resigned from office in 2017.One of those "you're the only dude mentioning George Floyd anymore" situations. :doge
The three focused mostly on fanning the flames of the “critical race theory” panic that has become a rallying cry on the right, with Diamond and Silk repeating a refrain of “Keep your hands off our children” and labelling education about race a “conspiracy theory.” Clarke most directly addressed the murder of George Floyd. “I don’t know about you, but I’m tired of hearing about George Floyd,” he said to applause. Later, he added: “The sooner we can put George Floyd in our collective rear view mirror, the better.”
Post by: Nintex on June 14, 2021, 12:24:44 PM
https://twitter.com/AaronAb15661959/status/1404371452405731329 (https://twitter.com/AaronAb15661959/status/1404371452405731329)
Post by: benjipwns on June 15, 2021, 12:42:36 AM
Post by: benjipwns on June 15, 2021, 01:08:58 AM
Post by: benjipwns on June 15, 2021, 07:26:42 PM
(https://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/styles/scale_w1024/s3/static/D8Image/2021/06/14/CRT%20Fox%20%284%29.png?itok=ACbHHukH)
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING IT'S TAKING OVER
Post by: benjipwns on June 15, 2021, 07:29:06 PM
Post by: Nintex on June 16, 2021, 02:09:10 PM
:rogan
Post by: Nintex on June 16, 2021, 05:27:31 PM
your big house is racist according to the build back better people that live in mansions and go their gatherings in private planes :trumps
Post by: benjipwns on June 17, 2021, 01:38:12 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 17, 2021, 02:06:38 PM
https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1405546305615810563
(https://i.imgur.com/CMnB2fJ.gif)
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 17, 2021, 02:12:29 PM
Post by: Nintex on June 17, 2021, 05:49:20 PM
Post by: Nintex on June 18, 2021, 12:57:13 PM
https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1405924080088408068 (https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1405924080088408068)
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on June 18, 2021, 01:53:08 PM
:thinking
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 18, 2021, 02:50:42 PM
Post by: benjipwns on June 18, 2021, 05:05:29 PM
I refuse to believe that Greg Kelly is a real person.EAT IT RUMBLER:
https://twitter.com/gregkellyusa/status/1405918484698173441
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 18, 2021, 11:42:10 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on June 19, 2021, 06:26:51 PM
:doge
Post by: benjipwns on June 19, 2021, 08:44:45 PM
Post by: Nintex on June 19, 2021, 09:05:29 PM
He actually pays for everything out of his own pocket :doge
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 19, 2021, 11:08:50 PM
Post by: Nintex on June 20, 2021, 06:07:33 PM
:aloy
Post by: naff on June 20, 2021, 06:38:43 PM
https://twitter.com/gregkellyusa/status/1404144996576632834
if i was new to this, reading gregs tweets and stuff like ben shapiro's "Notably, nobody mentioned crime" i would 100% assume these were parody accounts
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on June 22, 2021, 07:52:00 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/vlotero/status/1407472992481800192
:jeanluc
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 22, 2021, 09:27:37 PM
Post by: benjipwns on June 22, 2021, 10:35:57 PM
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“But you see, that’s all changing,” Lindell promised. “What I’m going to do to get this to the world, it’s called a cyber symposium. And what it is, is I’m going to have a venue at the end of July—it’s your job, everybody, to get the word out to the world—we’re going to get every cyber guy that has credentials—they’re called CISSP credentials—they’re going to be there.”
“We’re bringing in all the cyber guys,” he continued. “They’re gonna be there. Then we’re bringing all the media. Maybe even Fox will show up! What a concept. And then we’re going to bring in all senators, governors—even the corrupt ones, Brian Kemp—and legislatures, secretary of states, and every single government official that wants to be there, because when we show them these packet captures, we’re gonna just give them out to all them cyber guys so they can have their own guy go, ‘How many votes were flipped here in Tampa?’ Here you go. Boom. It’s going to be a worldwide event. Millions are going to see it, and those Supreme Court justices are going to look at it then, and they’re going to go 9-0 that this country was attacked. The election is gonna come down. Donald Trump will be in office by this fall, for sure.”
ALL THE CYBER GUYS
Post by: chronovore on June 22, 2021, 11:15:19 PM
Post by: benjipwns on June 24, 2021, 03:54:14 AM
Post by: Nintex on June 24, 2021, 02:03:18 PM
Post by: Nintex on June 25, 2021, 09:39:50 AM
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1408216358899183617 (https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1408216358899183617)
Post by: benjipwns on June 26, 2021, 09:02:06 PM
Post by: benjipwns on June 26, 2021, 09:49:44 PM
Post by: Nintex on June 27, 2021, 08:30:09 AM
:hesright
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 27, 2021, 08:48:57 PM
Post by: chronovore on June 29, 2021, 04:28:37 AM
https://twitter.com/TheFirstonTV/status/1408528032231460868 (https://twitter.com/TheFirstonTV/status/1408528032231460868)
:hesright
No, he's fucking not right. Argumentum ad populum, "everyone knows..." We do not agree that Biden's out of his mind. He's nearing 80, and a recovering stutterer. At least he's not lying every time he opens his mouth, like goddamned 45.
There are some trashbag, unreasonable lefties, sure, who are now out for revenge. There are a fuckton more rightwingers who started unreasonable during the Reagan and two Bush eras, and whom have been dragged further into reactionary territory with every viewing of Fox News. We, all of us, were basically gaslit for the entirety of Trump's Presidency, and it's broken some of us. Some broke further left, others führer right.
Post by: benjipwns on June 30, 2021, 03:26:44 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3m-y-WXoAAR4bD?format=jpg&name=small)lol they actually did it:
https://twitter.com/TPPF/status/1409915826036252673
Post by: Nintex on June 30, 2021, 06:38:14 PM
https://twitter.com/MollyJongFast/status/1410345719622508551 (https://twitter.com/MollyJongFast/status/1410345719622508551)
I feel like Tucker is digging a hole in a real time he won't be able to get out of if and when the NSA reveals why is he of interest to them :doge
https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1410343586617569280 (https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1410343586617569280)
Post by: chronovore on July 02, 2021, 02:35:38 AM
Post by: benjipwns on July 02, 2021, 10:05:58 AM
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The “Purge” franchise offers a glimpse into the progressive mindset.
Previous installments slammed Christians as monsters, railed against President Donald Trump and stoked the dying embers of Occupy Wall Street’s class resentment.
“The Forever Purge,” the fifth and final? installment, takes on immigration and the alleged rise of white supremacy. You’ll swear MSNBC’s Joy Reid spit-polished the screenplay after Brian Stelter took a whack at it.
The franchise’s core gimmick remains in place, but the film’s modest pleasures are overwhelmed by its dopey sloganeering and predictability.
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It’s one groaner after another, and that doesn’t include the talking points barely disguised as conversations. Veteran actor Will Patton is forced to spit out an anti-American diatribe that would make Rep. Ilhan Omar blush.:rethread
The film flirts with class envy, particularly during one confrontation with the rancher family, but the focus is on white supremacists running wild. The film likely wrapped production before the pandemic kicked in, but it’s astonishing to see wonton destruction without anyone whispering the word, “Antifa.”
We spent the last year watching far-Left forces like Black Lives Matter and Antifa torch cities, smash windows and leave expletive-laced graffiti in their wake. The latest “Purge” insists Trumpian bigots are destroying the country. It’s Fake News storytelling, especially when a tribal leader warns a TV interviewer about Purgers burning cities to the ground.
Has he seen the news today, oh boy.
Post by: Nintex on July 04, 2021, 01:43:39 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 06, 2021, 01:02:09 AM
Post by: benjipwns on July 06, 2021, 01:04:55 AM
:rollsafe
spoiler (click to show/hide)
this probably should have gone in conspiracy thread :doge
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Post by: Nintex on July 06, 2021, 12:28:21 PM
:trumps
Post by: Nintex on July 08, 2021, 03:00:19 PM
:hesright
Post by: Nintex on July 08, 2021, 03:17:06 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5e_vloXwAsYUYD?format=jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5e7wfFWEAEb9h7?format=jpg)
Post by: benjipwns on July 10, 2021, 09:22:15 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 10, 2021, 09:24:45 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 11, 2021, 09:12:33 PM
Post by: team filler on July 11, 2021, 09:26:05 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 12, 2021, 10:19:52 AM
that hair brehs :doge
Post by: benjipwns on July 12, 2021, 11:59:16 AM
https://twitter.com/gregkellyusa/status/1414271025727086603
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 12, 2021, 04:03:42 PM
Post by: BIONIC on July 12, 2021, 05:44:48 PM
Post by: team filler on July 13, 2021, 05:06:32 AM
Post by: Nintex on July 13, 2021, 02:04:13 PM
there will be a HIATUS in GREG KELLY posting:He's probably joining Don Jr. and Ben Shapiro for the Bay of Pigs 2.0
https://twitter.com/gregkellyusa/status/1414271025727086603
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 13, 2021, 02:06:44 PM
Post by: Nintex on July 13, 2021, 02:30:04 PM
Post by: Nintex on July 14, 2021, 05:07:15 AM
https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/1415213885234237440 (https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/1415213885234237440)
Post by: benjipwns on July 14, 2021, 02:35:26 PM
Post by: Nintex on July 14, 2021, 03:12:25 PM
:trumps
Post by: Nintex on July 14, 2021, 06:03:19 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6Q60_2XEAUsZK-?format=png)
Post by: benjipwns on July 16, 2021, 11:22:37 AM
Post by: benjipwns on July 16, 2021, 11:24:54 AM
Post by: Nintex on July 16, 2021, 11:28:16 AM
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1415827469995634691 (https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1415827469995634691)
https://twitter.com/NikkiMcR/status/1415836764527288323 (https://twitter.com/NikkiMcR/status/1415836764527288323)
Post by: team filler on July 16, 2021, 11:58:35 AM
Post by: benjipwns on July 16, 2021, 12:10:44 PM
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Donald Trump is having trouble selling advance tickets for his upcoming speaking tour with conservative pundit Bill O’Reilly, according to interviews with ticketing officials for the venues.
Early last month, Trump and O’Reilly, the one-time top Fox News host, announced a joint “History Tour” featuring four stops in December. O’Reilly said his conversations with Trump “will not be boring,” while the former president promised “fun, fun, fun for everyone who attends.”
Tickets went on sale for the events on June 14. While most seats are priced between $100 and $300, a “VIP Meet & Greet Package” goes for more than $8,500 and includes getting pictures taken with Trump and O’Reilly and a pre-show, 45-minute reception.
The events are not until the end of the year, Trump’s camp notes. But so far, the pace of purchases has been slow compared to other acts, arena officials say.
In Orlando, where the duo is hosting an event at the 20,000-capacity Amway Center on Dec. 12, a box office employee for the arena said, “There’s still a lot of tickets open.” The person, who like others for this story insisted on anonymity to share confidential sales data, added: “We have concerts that are doing a lot better than this.” A Bad Bunny concert being held next March recently sold out within two days, for example, and the majority of seats for a Dec. 3 Kane Brown concert have been sold already.
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For Trump’s Houston event with O’Reilly at the 19,000-seat Toyota Center, home to the NBA’s Houston Rockets, 60 to 65 percent of seats remain unsold, an employee with access to ticket sales information estimated. And in Sunrise, Florida, a box office employee at the BB&T Center said that they would have expected sales for the Trump-O’Reilly event there to have been “definitely higher” by now.
“It hasn’t been [selling] like crazy,” the person added, noting that events for comedian Katt Williams and podcast star Joe Rogan have done “significantly” better than the Trump-O’Reilly duo thus far.
Post by: team filler on July 16, 2021, 12:37:02 PM
Post by: Nintex on July 16, 2021, 01:33:01 PM
https://twitter.com/trippieejackie/status/1414805742708723718 (https://twitter.com/trippieejackie/status/1414805742708723718)
https://twitter.com/newsmax/status/1415463743153217544 (https://twitter.com/newsmax/status/1415463743153217544)
Post by: benjipwns on July 19, 2021, 04:05:45 PM
:american
Post by: benjipwns on July 19, 2021, 06:25:23 PM
https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/1416855411332980744
the reason for these tweets
https://twitter.com/brandi_love/status/1416490850906001410
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Post by: Nintex on July 19, 2021, 07:23:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGpVreCqNLo
Post by: benjipwns on July 20, 2021, 06:38:22 PM
Post by: naff on July 20, 2021, 07:28:17 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on July 20, 2021, 08:37:28 PM
:doge
Post by: team filler on July 20, 2021, 09:25:06 PM
https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1417454994165534721https://twitter.com/angelgirlfaith/status/1417546188807577602
8)
Post by: naff on July 20, 2021, 10:47:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDsMdRrTs7M
that hair brehs :doge
:jeanluc
that's actually a pretty great do :o milo is a demonic horrible piece of shit and peak wank dad, but at least his sophistry is fairly adept. most wank dads are too bland and dumb to find interesting. gutted to hear he is "ex-gay" and trying to rehabilitate conversion therapy's image while spewing transphobic trash; though that's generally just in line with being british.
the interview and all the talk of conversion therapy is especially funny and sad given he looks like one of joe exotics boys, or a side character from Stranger of Paradise: Final Fantasy
Post by: BIONIC on July 21, 2021, 06:45:51 AM
What a sack of shit :lol
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 21, 2021, 02:10:54 PM
Ex-gay? Isn’t he literally married to a dude? Or maybe he got the citizenship then dumped his ass?
What a sack of shit :lol
He claims that his former husband is now just a roommate.
Post by: team filler on July 21, 2021, 09:35:02 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 25, 2021, 04:38:11 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on July 25, 2021, 08:49:16 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Jerusalem_Post/status/1418918088288915461
Post by: benjipwns on July 27, 2021, 10:48:22 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1420132782685265925
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Post by: benjipwns on July 29, 2021, 09:31:11 PM
Quote from: https://www.wsj.com/articles/mypillow-to-pull-ads-from-fox-news-in-disagreement-with-network-11627605182
The chief executive of MyPillow Inc., one of Fox News’s big advertisers, said he is pulling his ads from the network after a disagreement over a proposed commercial.
Mike Lindell said he made the decision after Fox News declined to run a commercial linked to his efforts to promote his claims of widespread fraud in the 2020 presidential election.
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MyPillow spent almost $50 million on Fox News last year and so far this year has shelled out about $19 million for ad time on the network, Mr. Lindell said.
Post by: benjipwns on August 01, 2021, 10:28:04 PM
Post by: Nintex on August 02, 2021, 06:28:19 AM
Post by: Nintex on August 02, 2021, 08:20:58 AM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 02, 2021, 02:45:38 PM
Post by: Nintex on August 02, 2021, 04:07:07 PM
https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/1422276069437198337 (https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/1422276069437198337)
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Specifically, the complaint alleges that Kudlow said he wanted to have a “three-way” with Fox News anchor Sandra Smith, said he enjoyed seeing Fox Business reporter Susan Li on set and grunted, and in a phone conference about an upcoming interview with Salazar, allegedly asked “Why don’t we just let the Mexicans in,” because America needed more “jalapeño pickers.”
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 02, 2021, 04:16:56 PM
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The USA Freedom Kids' brand has expanded to include merchandise, a ringtone, and registered their trademarked catchword "Ameritude."[30] CBS News also said that "these girls have Ameritude."
:fbm
Post by: BIONIC on August 02, 2021, 04:29:07 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_Freedom_KidsQuoteThe USA Freedom Kids' brand has expanded to include merchandise, a ringtone, and registered their trademarked catchword "Ameritude."[30] CBS News also said that "these girls have Ameritude."
:fbm
https://youtu.be/hC-W2Mbu0OQ
Post by: benjipwns on August 04, 2021, 03:01:51 AM
https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status/1422331088039448579
Post by: benjipwns on August 05, 2021, 11:27:38 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 07, 2021, 03:39:17 PM
:usacry
Post by: Nintex on August 07, 2021, 08:01:51 PM
I remember when Cernovich started this nonsense. The normies are now picking it up. :doge
Post by: Nintex on August 09, 2021, 08:34:44 AM
:doge
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 09, 2021, 08:07:25 PM
https://twitter.com/KaiseratCB/status/1423622572197961735 (https://twitter.com/KaiseratCB/status/1423622572197961735)
I remember when Cernovich started this nonsense. The normies are now picking it up. :doge
jake no
Post by: Nintex on August 10, 2021, 08:40:18 AM
Gorka on Rogan? :info
Post by: benjipwns on August 12, 2021, 08:13:56 PM
Quote from: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/08/12/rumble-video-gabbard-greenwald/
The Toronto-based upstart Rumble said Thursday that it has struck deals with former U.S. congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard, the journalist firebrand Glenn Greenwald and others who had committed to posting their videos first to the site.https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1425889057209569280
...
The company declined to provide financial details but Greenwald said the top creators’ year-long contracts will pay in the “midrange six figures.”
...
The Rumble-funded creators will be free to post their videos elsewhere, including YouTube, after a two-hour Rumble-exclusive window.
https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1425774564143816709
Post by: team filler on August 12, 2021, 10:15:04 PM
can't wait for the thirst trap vids with that round ass :shaq
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 12, 2021, 10:17:27 PM
Banned.video or bust
Post by: benjipwns on August 12, 2021, 10:38:24 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/toilet_sniper/status/1425959732834148355
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Post by: Transhuman on August 12, 2021, 11:55:32 PM
Post by: team filler on August 13, 2021, 12:03:35 AM
Somehow it's even dumber than Rumblrfack the dumbazz mods :lol didn't know you had it in ya, trashy :mynicca
Post by: Transhuman on August 13, 2021, 04:44:33 AM
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 13, 2021, 05:19:03 AM
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 13, 2021, 10:37:43 AM
Somehow it's even dumber than Rumblr
:bolo
Post by: team filler on August 13, 2021, 12:52:00 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 13, 2021, 12:57:07 PM
Post by: team filler on August 13, 2021, 01:05:34 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Yxw01W7.jpeg)
Post by: benjipwns on August 16, 2021, 10:03:25 PM
https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1427425230146916352
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 17, 2021, 06:01:03 PM
Post by: Nintex on August 17, 2021, 06:07:06 PM
(https://abload.de/img/thetuckjtjpb.png)
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 17, 2021, 09:04:05 PM
Post by: benjipwns on August 17, 2021, 09:27:16 PM
https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1427694666481274881
Post by: team filler on August 17, 2021, 09:48:52 PM
Post by: benjipwns on August 17, 2021, 10:53:00 PM
https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/1427804772694958081
https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1427796504845160450
https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1427808960850141192
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1427807877587157001
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1427807877587157001
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Post by: benjipwns on August 17, 2021, 11:11:00 PM
Post by: Nintex on August 18, 2021, 05:15:42 PM
Post by: benjipwns on August 18, 2021, 10:35:58 PM
https://twitter.com/CheriJacobus/status/1428182903373058048
Post by: team filler on August 18, 2021, 10:37:27 PM
Post by: team filler on August 18, 2021, 10:45:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wc23FQZeTE(https://i.imgur.com/lzSaN47.png)
:thinking
Post by: team filler on August 19, 2021, 12:02:07 AM
:nintex
Post by: chronovore on August 19, 2021, 11:34:15 AM
I'm shocked that conservative talking heads would use the collapse of Afghan government and the likely humanitarian issues that follow as an excuse to fear mongering about dirty foreigners and their strange ways.SHOCKED, I TELL YOU.
Post by: Nintex on August 19, 2021, 12:19:12 PM
:dead
Post by: team filler on August 19, 2021, 04:36:17 PM
:bernie
Post by: BIONIC on August 19, 2021, 04:46:47 PM
Post by: Nintex on August 22, 2021, 12:30:20 PM
:lawd :whew :lucas
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 23, 2021, 12:16:15 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/paulmasonnews/status/1429730852485963779
:spiders
Post by: Nintex on August 23, 2021, 04:09:11 PM
watch out OJ :whew
Post by: team filler on August 23, 2021, 04:24:50 PM
Post by: benjipwns on August 25, 2021, 12:51:58 AM
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Kimberly Klacik, a former Republican congressional candidate in Maryland, is suing conservative commentator Candace Owens for $20 million in damages over an Instagram video Owens made in June in which she alleged Klacik had committed campaign fraud, money laundering, illegally used drugs and was a “madame” of a strip club, according to court documents.
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The lawsuit alleges Owens “continues to support and encourage the harassment” of Klacik.
In the video, Owens says she is “not an investigative journalist,” and “could not confirm” any of the criminal allegations she makes against Klacik. But she went on to accuse Klacik of “money laundering, tax fraud and campaign fraud,” as well as paying vendors to “move money off the books” and working to recruit strippers for a strip club Owens says Klacik’s husband owns, according to the lawsuit.
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“Ms. Klacik has lost and continues to lose financial opportunities, media appearances, and political support as a direct result of the Defendant’s malicious and wanton statements,” the lawsuit states. “Examples of such lost opportunities include the cancellation of a book deal, losing the sponsorship of a nationally-recognized media vendor, cancelled fundraisers, and lost support of previous political donors. Ms. Klacik and her family continue to be harassed daily, with Ms. Klacik specifically receiving harmful and degrading comments because of the defamatory claims made by the Defendant.”
The lawsuit alleges that the feud began over an argument about declaring Juneteenth a national holiday, an act by President Joe Biden that both Owens and Klacik opposed.
Post by: Nintex on August 25, 2021, 01:32:42 PM
Post by: benjipwns on August 28, 2021, 03:09:56 AM
Post by: benjipwns on August 30, 2021, 04:12:32 PM
Post by: benjipwns on September 02, 2021, 01:39:43 AM
Post by: Nintex on September 07, 2021, 06:39:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O_7O9_nV10
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 08, 2021, 04:57:08 PM
https://youtu.be/-IdAnpP4Ru8
Post by: benjipwns on September 08, 2021, 06:59:32 PM
Post by: team filler on September 08, 2021, 07:01:00 PM
Post by: Nintex on September 08, 2021, 07:13:14 PM
:kermit
Post by: team filler on September 10, 2021, 06:26:17 AM
Post by: Nintex on September 10, 2021, 07:05:53 AM
Frankly if Robert E. Lee was doing the vaccinations our Russian wives and Joe Rogan would be vaccinated so fast that we wouldn't have lost to the Taliban :trumps
Post by: BIONIC on September 10, 2021, 11:03:19 AM
Post by: benjipwns on September 10, 2021, 07:31:55 PM
Post by: team filler on September 10, 2021, 08:16:14 PM
Post by: BIONIC on September 10, 2021, 08:19:13 PM
Post by: Nintex on September 11, 2021, 01:51:04 PM
Post by: benjipwns on September 12, 2021, 10:26:59 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on September 13, 2021, 09:48:39 PM
:whew
Post by: Nintex on September 15, 2021, 07:34:54 PM
:whew
Post by: benjipwns on September 15, 2021, 08:05:45 PM
Post by: team filler on September 15, 2021, 08:11:40 PM
Post by: team filler on September 16, 2021, 07:26:03 PM
Post by: benjipwns on September 16, 2021, 07:53:28 PM
Post by: team filler on September 16, 2021, 08:22:51 PM
Post by: Nintex on September 20, 2021, 06:52:52 PM
They were right, the best is yet to come
Post by: benjipwns on September 20, 2021, 10:17:43 PM
Post by: team filler on September 20, 2021, 10:22:35 PM
Post by: benjipwns on September 20, 2021, 11:08:06 PM
https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1440132088955478019
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 21, 2021, 10:10:48 AM
Post by: benjipwns on September 22, 2021, 03:05:14 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 22, 2021, 04:28:54 AM
Post by: benjipwns on September 23, 2021, 07:22:39 PM
Post by: team filler on September 23, 2021, 08:20:12 PM
Post by: benjipwns on September 24, 2021, 12:18:32 AM
https://twitter.com/gregkellyusa/status/1440098876518645761https://twitter.com/gregkellyusa/status/1441099367696404488
Post by: benjipwns on September 29, 2021, 01:30:11 AM
Quote from: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/28/opinion/liz-cheney-democrats-democracy.html
At the end of our conversation, though, I could only shake my head and ask: Liz, how could there be only one of you?
She could only shake her head back.
Post by: Nintex on September 29, 2021, 03:50:17 AM
Post by: Nintex on September 29, 2021, 06:16:21 PM
https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1443325746932502530 (https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1443325746932502530)
Post by: team filler on September 29, 2021, 09:08:16 PM
https://twitter.com/Cheerbitter/status/1443358746776846336
https://twitter.com/vampygoetia/status/1443351843443257351
:juche
Post by: Transhuman on September 29, 2021, 09:33:46 PM
Post by: team filler on September 29, 2021, 09:37:00 PM
Post by: team filler on September 29, 2021, 11:28:00 PM
:maduro
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 30, 2021, 04:29:13 AM
Post by: team filler on September 30, 2021, 01:33:43 PM
:maduro
Post by: Nintex on September 30, 2021, 02:23:36 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 30, 2021, 02:52:29 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 01, 2021, 12:34:56 AM
Post by: benjipwns on October 01, 2021, 04:15:53 AM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on October 01, 2021, 07:32:35 PM
:cenk
Post by: Nintex on October 01, 2021, 08:04:00 PM
"He's a real piece of work Joe. You know that special force they have in Turkey, those real bad ass dudes that kill the qurds for sport?" :info
:rogan "You mean the gray wolves, yeah I know about them.. what's that Jamie, the young turks? No it was the arabs. I'm pretty sure it was the arabs. but they're not a special force they're more like loyal followers of Erdostan right?"
"Yeah, those guys, he's actually a member. It's some occult ottoman shit. I fought those arabs multiple times. And let me tell ya, I don't easily get scared but that dude scares the hell out of me." :info
:rogan "I can take him, easy. I don't care if he's a gray wolf, Mossad or a Russian agent, I'll take him Alex. I've beaten COVID, I'm fucking invincible, this nerd has nothing on me"
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on October 02, 2021, 07:11:43 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1444381453089968136
Post by: Nintex on October 02, 2021, 07:41:31 PM
Post by: Nintex on October 04, 2021, 05:37:37 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 08, 2021, 07:12:09 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 08, 2021, 11:57:21 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 10, 2021, 04:04:54 PM
https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1446529035836825631
Quote from: https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/its-time-for-a-better-and-smarter
It’s Time for a Better and Smarter Alliance Against Porn
Feminists and Evangelicals united once; they can unite again.
Last month I read a story that gave me a surge of cultural hope. No, strike that. It gave me another surge of cultural hope. And it made me ask a key question that afflicts more homes and more hearts than virtually any political issue that dominates the news. Is America ready for a culture change on pornography?
And that leads to a second question. Is America ready for a new alliance between feminists and Evangelicals, between left and right, to achieve that change?
...
I want you to notice a few things from the reports above. First, they’re all from mainstream media outlets. The rising alarm at abuse and predation in the porn industry isn’t coming exclusively from conservative religious Americans. Second, the most effective remedies so far are coming from the “woke” corporations that so many conservatives love to hate. And third, the harms of porn outlined above aren’t just objective (involving concrete violations of legal rights), they’re also subjective, degrading and damaging the way in which women experience the world.
So what now? It’s time to remember an old alliance, to learn from its mistakes, and to understand its possibilities.
Post by: benjipwns on October 10, 2021, 09:59:27 PM
Post by: chronovore on October 10, 2021, 11:04:47 PM
You think they use ZOOM or Teams?
sKKKype
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 11, 2021, 10:37:24 AM
https://twitter.com/gregkellyusa/status/1446109359801610242
He cancelled all his tour dates in 2020 and 2021, seems like the Beeber fad is over.
Post by: benjipwns on October 13, 2021, 03:29:46 AM
https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1448115939090649089
Almost exactly one day apart:
https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1448029345579216896
https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1447646299583619079
Post by: T234 on October 13, 2021, 06:57:13 PM
Only instead of posting something useful like Videogame News or Pornography, you post Regurgitated Textual Diarrhea From The Red Human Centipede Known As MAGA.
Also, what happened to the rule where politics is ONLY allowed in the politics thread?
Post by: Transhuman on October 13, 2021, 07:23:19 PM
Post by: BIONIC on October 13, 2021, 07:53:10 PM
Post by: T234 on October 14, 2021, 12:19:08 AM
Rules on the bore :nope
It is true that, a long time ago on the Bore, there were only two rules:
Suns Out, Guns Out
CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL
But the Mandark/TA war played out all over the front page to where it was unreadable, and so the First Politics Megathread was titled "POLITICS GO HERE AND NOWHERE ELSE OR GTFO". Demi was not fucking aroundTM . AND IT WAS MOTHERFUCKING GLORIOUS
Post by: benjipwns on October 14, 2021, 01:53:06 PM
Benji, you are posting like a goddamn Dollar Tree version of Wario64 from 2007 who dreams about being able to afford escort services.This complaint is voiced a lot but nobody ever defines "wank dad" in a way that filters out stupid pundits.
Only instead of posting something useful like Videogame News or Pornography, you post Regurgitated Textual Diarrhea From The Red Human Centipede Known As MAGA.
Also, what happened to the rule where politics is ONLY allowed in the politics thread?
Post by: Nintex on October 14, 2021, 01:58:29 PM
Benji is the goat
:rejoice
https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1448701562390552584 (https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1448701562390552584)
Post by: T234 on October 15, 2021, 01:47:29 AM
Mandark is a LEGEND
Benji can't even beat either one of those jobbers Malek or Willco, much less somebody actually good like Beezy or Dynamite Shikoku.
Tauntaun is the G.O.A.T.
:tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun
:miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto
FIXED
Post by: benjipwns on October 15, 2021, 03:22:15 AM
Benji can't even beat either one of those jobbers Malek or Willcodamn dude what did i ever do to you
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 15, 2021, 03:07:42 PM
Post by: team filler on October 15, 2021, 04:46:16 PM
Post by: Nintex on October 15, 2021, 05:37:05 PM
Post by: team filler on October 15, 2021, 06:33:45 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 16, 2021, 01:24:11 AM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 16, 2021, 06:06:35 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 16, 2021, 07:19:37 PM
Post by: Kurt Russell on October 16, 2021, 07:25:52 PM
It is true that, a long time ago on the Bore, there were only two rules:
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/019/304/old.jpg)
Post by: Nintex on October 16, 2021, 09:28:40 PM
Post by: D3RANG3D on October 17, 2021, 12:53:21 AM
Post by: Nintex on October 18, 2021, 01:57:39 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 18, 2021, 02:49:09 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 18, 2021, 09:27:56 PM
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In fact, getting sick with the virus was his plan all along, he announced Monday during his show, which streams daily on YouTube.
“It is infinitely preferable to have natural immunity than vaccine immunity and that is what I have hoped for the entire time,” Prager told listeners from his home, where he is quarantining. “Hence... I have engaged with strangers, constantly hugging them, taking photos with them knowing that I was making myself very susceptible to getting COVID… [It is] what I wanted, in the hope I would achieve natural immunity and be taken care of by therapeutics. That is exactly what has happened.”
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He has received a course of Regeneron’s monoclonal antibody treatment and told his audience that he has been following the “Zelenko Protocol,” an ineffectual combination of prescription drugs popular with the far right but not meant to treat COVID, and is now also taking ivermectin, an unapproved medication that is used in animals and humans to treat infections caused by parasitic worms and certain skin conditions, but again, not COVID.
“Taking therapeutics and supplements prophylactically requires education and discipline,” Prager told The Daily Beast, explaining that it seemed like a “prudent precaution,” but that he and his wife have both lost their sense of taste. “Not everyone has the time or the inclination to learn what they need to learn and follow through with daily and/or weekly consumption. I think each individual has to make their own cost/benefit analysis of both therapeutics and vaccines. I was not comfortable getting an experimental vaccine produced with brand-new technology that had never before been deployed in humans on a mass scale without long-term safety data. By definition, we won’t have that for a number of years.”
The Regeneron monoclonal antibody cocktail is still in the experimental stages and has only been approved for emergency use by the FDA
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Prager told his audience on Monday that he tried his damndest to become infected with COVID by hugging “strangers in the thousands, literally in the thousands, while not being inoculated.”
“And finally, I got it from somebody,” he said, adding, “And it was a gamble, based on the knowledge, not based on being a gambler, I am not a gambler,” said Prager. “I certainly don’t gamble with my health, but I so believe science and the science of ivermectin, not the lies of The New York Times.”
Post by: who is ted danson? on October 19, 2021, 04:13:08 AM
Post by: Nintex on October 19, 2021, 04:25:26 AM
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Prager told his audience on Monday that he tried his damndest to become infected with COVID by hugging “strangers in the thousands, literally in the thousands, while not being inoculated.”:titus
“And finally, I got it from somebody,” he said, adding, “And it was a gamble, based on the knowledge, not based on being a gambler, I am not a gambler,” said Prager. “I certainly don’t gamble with my health, but I so believe science and the science of ivermectin, not the lies of The New York Times.”
Contracting COVID on purpose to show horse dewormer works and own the libs.
This level of dedication.
Post by: benjipwns on October 20, 2021, 03:13:22 PM
Post by: Nintex on October 21, 2021, 12:53:40 PM
Putin realized that in order to be evil (and make Europe feel bad about buying your gas) you need to say edgelord things like these and invading other countries doesn't quite cut it anymore.
Post by: Nintex on October 22, 2021, 08:52:24 AM
Despite YouTube trying to censor it the rap song 'Let's Go Brandon' is moving steadily up the iTunes charts.
https://twitter.com/RealBrysonGray/status/1451389802205560844 (https://twitter.com/RealBrysonGray/status/1451389802205560844)
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on October 22, 2021, 03:48:41 PM
:thinking
Post by: Nintex on October 24, 2021, 07:09:09 PM
what a strange career arc Russell brand has has, goes from presenting weird segments on UK mtv drugged off his tits to presenting a big brother spin off, to Britain's number one comedian to movie star to married to Katy Perry to political commentator who gets on the telly, to poor man's jimmy Dore :titusThe thing that sets Brand apart from Joe Rogan and others is that he's not a self-proclaimed 'fucking idiot'.
Rogan is fun and he knows how to channel some his guests well, but he also leans heavily into the 'I'm a moron' act so he can get away with nearly anything.
Rusell Brand can talk to psychiatrists and scientists on their level and ask the follow up questions that actually lead to new insights.
Overall his takes are more comprehensive and well thought out.
Jimmy Dore is a smart guy but limited by his 'comedy format' with forces him into bite sized chunks of content and the need for a punch line.
Like all "comedians" he has to do his bits too, such as reading Twitter comments and hating Bill Maher.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 26, 2021, 05:17:22 PM
good video
Post by: Nintex on October 27, 2021, 06:52:32 PM
:lol
Post by: Nintex on October 28, 2021, 02:04:05 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 30, 2021, 08:15:55 PM
https://twitter.com/anthonyLfisher/status/1454167639127953412
:hesright
Post by: team filler on October 30, 2021, 09:47:22 PM
Post by: T234 on October 31, 2021, 03:58:59 AM
Thor's back and the limp-wristed garbage posters are running scared! :gladbron:woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo
Post by: T234 on October 31, 2021, 04:05:06 AM
thor will suck my fat hog :tauntaun
FIXED FOR MY MAN IN SILVER AND BLACK
Post by: team filler on October 31, 2021, 01:56:33 PM
he was talking about da mods :brockThor's back and the limp-wristed garbage posters are running scared! :gladbron:woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo
Post by: Nintex on October 31, 2021, 05:22:13 PM
https://twitter.com/JohnCleese/status/1454917801991237637 (https://twitter.com/JohnCleese/status/1454917801991237637)
https://twitter.com/JohnCleese/status/1454919521655947274 (https://twitter.com/JohnCleese/status/1454919521655947274)
:hesright
Post by: benjipwns on November 01, 2021, 09:39:55 PM
Post by: benjipwns on November 02, 2021, 12:31:20 AM
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1455120663639953408
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 02, 2021, 09:18:00 AM
Post by: team filler on November 02, 2021, 03:04:07 PM
Post by: benjipwns on November 05, 2021, 01:08:12 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 05, 2021, 01:46:45 PM
Post by: Nintex on November 05, 2021, 03:28:25 PM
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1455759676159709187Maybe he needs another Serbian coma :trumps
Post by: Nintex on November 06, 2021, 01:58:19 PM
Post by: team filler on November 06, 2021, 03:29:51 PM
Post by: Nintex on November 07, 2021, 07:10:21 PM
https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1457491067679481864 (https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1457491067679481864)
:wut
Post by: chronovore on November 07, 2021, 07:20:41 PM
Post by: benjipwns on November 07, 2021, 07:25:03 PM
Post by: benjipwns on November 07, 2021, 07:56:35 PM
Post by: Nintex on November 08, 2021, 02:01:00 PM
https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1457781588511494146 (https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1457781588511494146)
'woke' is now racist
thank you!
Post by: team filler on November 08, 2021, 03:14:06 PM
Post by: Nintex on November 08, 2021, 06:32:39 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on November 08, 2021, 09:08:49 PM
:isthis :science :society :nerds :skinner :brain
https://mobile.twitter.com/bariweiss/status/1457689514902654980
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 09, 2021, 02:02:15 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 09, 2021, 11:43:20 AM
Post by: benjipwns on November 09, 2021, 03:19:37 PM
https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1457781588511494146 (https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1457781588511494146)very rational dude:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDrSeRqWQAMh2s8?format=jpg&name=small)
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 09, 2021, 04:29:38 PM
tim dillon da gawd shits on grifter u (at least listen to til the first ad read which is :whew)
Post by: benjipwns on November 09, 2021, 11:39:09 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDwWfYKWEAAnAF4?format=jpg&name=small)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDwWfYPWYAEJVYH?format=jpg&name=small)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDwWfYPXEAETt5y?format=jpg&name=small)
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 10, 2021, 09:53:21 AM
Post by: Nintex on November 10, 2021, 11:34:48 AM
Quote
When all seems lost you have to protect the light
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/IncompatibleGiftedHog-mobile.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hULxlDhbo0
Post by: Nintex on November 11, 2021, 03:54:32 AM
:dead
Post by: benjipwns on November 11, 2021, 04:15:17 PM
Post by: benjipwns on November 11, 2021, 04:26:26 PM
https://twitter.com/philbio7/status/1458573044696371200
Post by: Nintex on November 11, 2021, 07:32:49 PM
Post by: benjipwns on November 12, 2021, 12:30:23 AM
Post by: Nintex on November 12, 2021, 04:24:00 PM
https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1459180988207144967 (https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1459180988207144967)
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 12, 2021, 04:44:08 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 13, 2021, 06:58:21 AM
good video
Post by: Nintex on November 13, 2021, 01:34:40 PM
Jokes -> Genocide
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 13, 2021, 01:36:47 PM
Post by: Nintex on November 14, 2021, 01:40:47 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEKwBd4VQAQXly3?format=jpg)
Post by: jorma on November 14, 2021, 01:54:17 PM
Post by: team filler on November 14, 2021, 02:45:38 PM
Post by: Nintex on November 14, 2021, 03:16:34 PM
With that said, I doubt Bernie is even tweeting himself.
Post by: jorma on November 14, 2021, 03:24:59 PM
Bernie should lean in and get Musk to sell all his stocks and companies and live under a bridge just to 'own the libs'.
With that said, I doubt Bernie is even tweeting himself.
1) 20% capital gains tax on 300 billion dollars will still leave him enough to get by without living under a bridge i'm sure.
2) Sanders didn't even come at Elon personally, he just asked the billionaires to pay their fair share, which is hardly a firebrand thrown to incite class warfare ::)
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 14, 2021, 03:30:19 PM
do it you coward :phil
Post by: team filler on November 14, 2021, 03:34:07 PM
I taught tio bernie everything he knows tbh :pimpBernie should lean in and get Musk to sell all his stocks and companies and live under a bridge just to 'own the libs'.
With that said, I doubt Bernie is even tweeting himself.
1) 20% capital gains tax on 300 billion dollars will still leave him enough to get by without living under a bridge i'm sure.
2) Sanders didn't even come at Elon personally, he just asked the billionaires to pay their fair share, which is hardly a firebrand thrown to incite class warfare ::)
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 14, 2021, 08:09:18 PM
:pimp
Post by: Nintex on November 14, 2021, 08:11:26 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on November 15, 2021, 11:05:20 PM
:rejoice
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 17, 2021, 03:25:30 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/OLT9tM5.png)
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 17, 2021, 03:28:36 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on November 17, 2021, 03:32:33 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/LouDobbs/status/1458579533112782854
Post by: benjipwns on November 17, 2021, 05:22:54 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on November 17, 2021, 05:30:23 PM
:badass
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 17, 2021, 05:35:26 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 18, 2021, 09:26:40 AM
Post by: Nintex on November 19, 2021, 04:10:48 PM
:hesright
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 19, 2021, 05:32:06 PM
Post by: Nintex on November 19, 2021, 06:14:05 PM
:info
Post by: chronovore on November 24, 2021, 04:28:09 AM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 26, 2021, 07:05:10 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 26, 2021, 08:02:24 PM
Love Renegade Cut
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and The West Wing
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Post by: Nintex on November 29, 2021, 11:41:29 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFYBObkVIAkbFww?format=jpg)
https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1465325572662431750 (https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1465325572662431750)
:juche
Post by: benjipwns on November 30, 2021, 07:08:27 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 01, 2021, 09:29:13 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 01, 2021, 11:11:54 AM
Post by: Nintex on December 01, 2021, 02:08:30 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on December 01, 2021, 03:48:53 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1466083132390658054
:lol
Post by: benjipwns on December 01, 2021, 08:52:36 PM
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https://twitter.com/SaysSimonson/status/1466072846518702088
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Post by: D3RANG3D on December 01, 2021, 11:50:18 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 02, 2021, 09:36:00 AM
Post by: Nintex on December 02, 2021, 12:41:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKZfKDciBMU
"We had great interaction with the liberals it's now a very boring place to be Twitter"
"It's not good if you're there and you have bombers flying over your country"
"Wind is ridiculous"
:hesright
Post by: Nintex on December 03, 2021, 06:42:48 PM
Post by: D3RANG3D on December 04, 2021, 01:21:01 AM
Post by: Nintex on December 04, 2021, 06:47:06 AM
"You know Donald, you don't trust the vote, but we still gotta have a Texas primary, so why not do a hoop? Or are you afraid to hoop me old man?" :letsfukk
"Frankly I'm the greatest hooper, I hoop like nobody else hoops, I'm wearing the Tai-con-do black belt, I will hoop with you whenever lyin' Ted" :trumps
:existential
"You know Mr. President, forget about the 250% inflation, $200 gas, Afghanistan, Ukraine, Taiwan and the fact that we don't have chickens anymore.... some say that you are just not fit for office. Let's hoop here and now and let the American people see who is fit for office." :letsfukk
"Look Jack, you ain't fooling anybody with your hoopin act. I was the hooping champion back in the 1970's I drove up with the Corvette and all the lasses came to see me hoop. If I can hoop black kids than I can hoop your Canadian ass" :biden
:existential
Post by: Nintex on December 04, 2021, 06:44:14 PM
Chris got hooped :trumps
Post by: team filler on December 04, 2021, 09:46:25 PM
Post by: benjipwns on December 04, 2021, 10:11:35 PM
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1467256630479831042 (https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1467256630479831042)https://twitter.com/juliakmarsh/status/1467257273135386628
The ones that were published in the New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/24/opinion/chris-cuomo-cnn.html)?
Speaking of which:
https://twitter.com/AlexThomp/status/1467262789043605504
Post by: team filler on December 04, 2021, 11:29:46 PM
Post by: Nintex on December 05, 2021, 07:44:43 AM
Post by: benjipwns on December 07, 2021, 12:29:53 AM
Quote from: https://nypost.com/2021/12/06/chris-cuomo-prepping-to-sue-cnn-over-his-reported-6m-a-year-contract/
Fired CNN host Chris Cuomo is set to sue the network if it balks at paying him at least $18 million to cover what’s left on his contract, sources told The Post on Monday.
Cuomo, 51, has hired lawyers and is preparing to file the lawsuit over the remainder of the four-year contract he signed last year — after a bitter back-and-forth about what the network knew of his secret efforts to aid his embattled brother, then-Gov. Andrew Cuomo, said sources familiar with the matter.
His contract was reportedly worth $6 million annually, leaving between $18 million and $20 million that he would be owed, sources said, adding that Chris Cuomo would also likely seek damages.
But CNN has “no intention of paying [Chris] Cuomo a penny,” an insider said.
“If he gets a settlement, there would be uproar,” the source added.
Post by: Nintex on December 07, 2021, 05:29:40 AM
This story is at least worth that, if not more. :ufup
Post by: Nintex on December 07, 2021, 06:23:52 PM
Even the man who literally benefits most from the current system is against it :titus
Post by: samir on December 07, 2021, 07:08:49 PM
Post by: benjipwns on December 08, 2021, 01:20:10 AM
I have no idea what Nintex's criteria are.
Post by: jorma on December 08, 2021, 02:30:40 AM
Post by: benjipwns on December 08, 2021, 02:35:08 AM
Post by: Nintex on December 08, 2021, 10:33:46 AM
In my opinion become a go-to expert on all things, especially politics, and the more that are outside your actual field and the less you actually study them the better. It used to be the "Intellectual Dark Web" (Jordan Peterson, Bret Weinstein, etc.) but that's fallen out of favor even among themselves and as they diminished the thread for me kinda just became blatantly ignorant pundits that somehow have large followings in general.In general I agree with your opinion but there's a wank dad spectrum, not everyone is wank dad all the time, sometimes people just act wank dad.
I have no idea what Nintex's criteria are.
Post by: Nintex on December 08, 2021, 06:00:22 PM
https://twitter.com/NikkiMcR/status/1468704702275670019 (https://twitter.com/NikkiMcR/status/1468704702275670019)
Post by: D3RANG3D on December 08, 2021, 08:17:24 PM
Post by: benjipwns on December 11, 2021, 11:59:41 AM
Post by: Nintex on December 11, 2021, 12:59:08 PM
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NO SAMANTHA???WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO SAMANTHA?Guess we finally figured out what Twitter account Trump is using. :trumps
https://twitter.com/gregkellyusa/status/1469500932425670661 (https://twitter.com/gregkellyusa/status/1469500932425670661)
Post by: benjipwns on December 11, 2021, 05:43:58 PM
Quote from: https://www.aier.org/article/the-1619-project-means-never-having-to-say-youre-sorry/
There were certain interpretive differences between my work and the 1619 Project on this point – for example, Hannah-Jones understated the extent to which antislavery motives shaped Lincoln’s support for the measure, which he saw as a pathway to wean the country away from the brutal plantation system. But the historical evidence of Lincoln’s deep connections to colonization was clear, and at least on that point the 1619 Project got it right.
That is, until Hannah-Jones realized that the historian she was citing was also an outspoken critic of other aspects of the 1619 Project.
“What are the credentials, exactly of Phil Magness?” Hannah-Jones fumed in another now-deleted comment after she realized that I had offered a less-than-favorable assessment of her project’s other historical claims, and particularly its error-riddled essay on the economics of slavery by Matthew Desmond. Her fury intensified in January 2020 after Alex Lichtenstein published a lengthy defense of the 1619 Project against his historian critics, attempting to invoke his authority as the editor of the American Historical Review to arbitrate the disputes over its claims about slavery in the Revolutionary through Civil War eras. At the time I pointed out that Lichtenstein – a 20th century historian – was not an expert in the antebellum United States, and was thus not qualified to assume the role of historical judge and jury on specialist claims about that era. Hannah-Jones snapped back, “Lol. You aren’t a specialist in that era either yet that didn’t stop you.”
Setting aside the fact that only a few weeks prior Hannah-Jones herself had been explicitly touting my work on Lincoln’s colonization projects to justify her own claims in the 1619 Project, I’ll simply note that I’ve authored over two dozen scholarly works on slavery and the Civil War era. This includes my aforementioned book, the chapter on colonization in the Essential Civil War Curriculum, as well as multiple peer-reviewed articles on slavery in the U.S. and broader Atlantic world. Hannah-Jones, by contrast, has no known original scholarship to her name of any kind on slavery or this period of American history.
At first, I chalked this bizarre exchange up to Hannah-Jones’s increasingly unprofessional approach to defending the 1619 Project. Instead of responding to substantive and factual critiques of her work, Hannah-Jones began directing personal abuse and insults at her critics.
When James McPherson offered his own less-than-flattering take on Hannah-Jones’s work in November 2019, she responded dismissively: “Who considers him preeminent? I don’t.” McPherson is a Pulitzer Prize-winning historian of the Civil War, and author of what is widely considered the standard single-volume treatment of the subject, Battle Cry of Freedom. In December 2019, McPherson joined distinguished scholars Gordon Wood, Sean Wilentz, Victoria Bynum, and James Oakes in questioning Hannah-Jones’s attempts to recast the American Revolution as a fight to preserve slavery. Rather than answer them, she dismissed the group as a whole by labeling them “white historians.”
Hannah-Jones saved her most brazenly abusive attacks though for African-American critics of the 1619 Project, such as Columbia University professor John McWhorter and journalist Coleman Hughes. When McWhorter, Hughes, and other African-American scholars launched a competitor 1776 Project in February 2020 through the Robert Woodson Center, Hannah-Jones lashed out on Twitter by posting photos of herself making derogatory gestures at her black interlocutors. Although she later deleted the tweets at the apparent request of her employer, Hannah-Jones made Hughes in particular a focus of her continued verbal abuse. “That Ivy League education certainly didn’t do you any favors,” she wrote in another comment to Hughes in August 2020. “Next time screenshot me and don’t quote text me because I’d rather not read your drivel. I tried to find something to quote tweet in that profoundly mediocre 1776 Project essay you wrote, but alas, nothing was worthy.”
It comes with little surprise, then, that my own experiences with Hannah-Jones followed a similar course after she realized that I was the author of the works on black colonization that she had previously been citing. Rather than engage with the evidence surrounding the disputed claims of her work, Hannah-Jones’s first impulse is to insult, attack, and dismiss the critic as “unqualified” to evaluate her work. Only historians that she cherry-picks to affirm her preconceived position, such as the University of South Carolina’s Woody Holton, are permitted under her credential-touting games.
Except in the case of Lincoln and colonization, Hannah-Jones even went so far as to modify her previous historical claims in order to avoid having to cite and credit a 1619 Project critic. As a result, I have the unusual distinction of having fallen from Hannah-Jones’ grace after she previously invoked my scholarship to support her work back in 2019. When an extended version of the 1619 Project came out in book form in November 2021, Hannah-Jones had not only excised substantial portions of her previous arguments about Lincoln – she cast about and found a new source to justify her revised interpretation on Lincoln.
The 1619 Project book now states only that Lincoln supported “colonization schemes as late as 1862,” and further implies that Lincoln abandoned the program after he issued the Emancipation Proclamation on January 1, 1863. Hannah-Jones’s new source for this revised claim appeared in footnote 38 of her essay: a 2016 popular press book entitled Stamped From the Beginning by Critical Race Theory activist Ibram X. Kendi.
Hannah-Jones’s new version of Lincoln’s colonization initiative is unambiguously wrong as a matter of history. One of the many discoveries I made while researching this subject was a colonization agreement that Lincoln signed on June 15, 1863 with the colonial government of British Honduras, or modern-day Belize. This document resides in the National Archives of Belize where I discovered it in 2011, and was previously unknown to any historian.
But as a broader matter of principle, Hannah-Jones’s behavior illustrates the absence of basic scholarly integrity from her approach to writing history. Rather than following the evidence where it leads, Hannah-Jones picks and chooses bits and pieces of her arguments from a secondary literature based on whether it conforms to her preconceived political narrative. She approaches citations as a tool by which she can reward other scholars who affirm that narrative. And if a previously-cited scholar runs afoul of Hannah-Jones, she is perfectly willing to alter the “history” presented in the 1619 Project in ways that excise the offending work and replace it with a completely different narrative – provided that its author flatters Hannah-Jones’s own personal politics and ambitions in the process.
Post by: benjipwns on December 19, 2021, 03:48:31 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 20, 2021, 01:37:20 AM
Post by: benjipwns on December 24, 2021, 01:02:25 AM
Post by: benjipwns on December 24, 2021, 06:53:23 AM
Post by: benjipwns on December 27, 2021, 07:21:41 PM
Quote from: https://www.thedailybeast.com/candace-owens-tells-fans-to-take-colloidal-silver-quack-cure-that-turns-skin-blue
Right-wing personality Candace Owens is urging her fans to consume a quack medical cure known for turning users’ skin blue.Based (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Jones_(Libertarian_politician)). :lawd
In an Instagram video posted on Thursday, Owens praised the use of colloidal silver as a daily supplement, a treatment that comes with no valid medical use and plenty of health risks.
“Yes, colloidal silver!” Owens said in the video. “I take colloidal silver every single day, I love colloidal silver. That is a great one. That is another one that people probably know nothing about.”
Post by: benjipwns on December 27, 2021, 07:28:50 PM
Post by: benjipwns on December 29, 2021, 02:40:52 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on December 31, 2021, 03:44:50 PM
Slay Queen!
Post by: benjipwns on December 31, 2021, 04:24:22 PM
Post by: porkbun on December 31, 2021, 04:37:53 PM
https://twitter.com/jkass99/status/1469726338328277009
Fucking Carolla is such a tool and a hypocrite of the highest order. Yeah, brag about being a "real man" while your bratty kids are being assholes to your Mexican nanny while you're sitting in your garage sitting in a car Paul Newman took a fart in getting shit-faced on your "Mangria" (glorified bum wine) and your wife is dispensing parenting tips on Twitter while being hammered on yet another solo "vacation".
Post by: benjipwns on December 31, 2021, 06:13:21 PM
Post by: benjipwns on December 31, 2021, 06:26:43 PM
https://twitter.com/mclemoremr/status/1476377804832792580
:dead :dead :dead :dead
Post by: benjipwns on January 02, 2022, 01:46:14 PM
Post by: VomKriege on January 02, 2022, 02:17:11 PM
Didn't know FBI was so rad tho.
Post by: VomKriege on January 02, 2022, 03:16:46 PM
https://thecritic.co.uk/knit-picking/ (https://thecritic.co.uk/knit-picking/)
Please read the Daily Beast article too because the first link may have some slight bias
https://archive.md/OaUHY (https://archive.md/OaUHY)
Post by: VomKriege on January 02, 2022, 10:01:47 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 03, 2022, 07:16:27 PM
https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/1477694701792813061
:salute
Post by: benjipwns on January 03, 2022, 07:25:03 PM
she's just the best
Post by: benjipwns on January 04, 2022, 11:42:50 PM
Post by: chronovore on January 05, 2022, 02:45:05 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FH8GmmOXoAQ6VWX?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Cryptofascist ends post with argument that we don't even accept from 7-year-olds. Fantastic.
In related news, my blood pressure is way up.
Post by: benjipwns on January 06, 2022, 07:49:58 PM
https://twitter.com/ccpecknold/status/1479084530459987970
https://twitter.com/Vermeullarmine/status/1479084727554523136
Post by: benjipwns on January 06, 2022, 07:57:40 PM
https://twitter.com/masonpelt/status/1478955214283718669
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https://twitter.com/SeekingReality7/status/1478912733882077193
https://twitter.com/Juniperoxide/status/1478909795503681539
https://twitter.com/beef_swell/status/1478915871334670337
https://twitter.com/GehringTed/status/1478956381201788928
https://twitter.com/DameTookie/status/1479196253716156420
https://twitter.com/Juniperoxide/status/1478909795503681539
https://twitter.com/beef_swell/status/1478915871334670337
https://twitter.com/GehringTed/status/1478956381201788928
https://twitter.com/DameTookie/status/1479196253716156420
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Post by: benjipwns on January 08, 2022, 09:43:21 AM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 08, 2022, 09:50:15 AM
Post by: benjipwns on January 10, 2022, 08:58:56 PM
Like this:
https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1480594054622679041
Post by: benjipwns on January 10, 2022, 10:23:00 PM
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 10, 2022, 11:06:27 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 13, 2022, 07:16:34 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 13, 2022, 07:23:49 PM
Post by: Nintex on January 13, 2022, 07:24:25 PM
https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1480624900712935426I watched that Gutfeld fella once or twice and I really don't understand why he has a laugh track that they pretend is the audience :doge
Anyhow the best Wank Dad content as of late apart from Joe Rogan (who is now the #1 global information source and media outlet) had to be Tucker's Michael Jackson bit
:dead
https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1480719018776571906 (https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1480719018776571906)
Post by: benjipwns on January 13, 2022, 08:09:15 PM
Anyhow the best Wank Dad content as of late apart from Joe Rogan (who is now the #1 global information source and media outlet) had to be Tucker's Michael Jackson bitDisagree, Tucker is mostly low grade content.
Quality content is more like people tweeting evidence of their own refutations:
https://twitter.com/benjaminwittes/status/1481346774010892295
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FI_J6AuX0AAneF_?format=jpg&name=small)
Post by: Transhuman on January 13, 2022, 08:52:14 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 14, 2022, 09:14:13 AM
Post by: Transhuman on January 14, 2022, 05:23:06 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 14, 2022, 05:36:11 PM
Post by: Nintex on January 14, 2022, 06:05:57 PM
Centuries from now Joe Rogan holograms will share deep truths and UFO stories with future generations and old jpegs of tweets will be studied in universities.
How the hell did they create such a great economy? They will wonder. Was it slaves, a miracle, alien intervention? Maybe the animals that still existed? Awful lot of UFO sightings in those days :thinking
Post by: benjipwns on January 15, 2022, 12:48:56 AM
Post by: Propagandhim on January 16, 2022, 10:27:36 AM
:lol
Post by: Nintex on January 16, 2022, 10:37:32 AM
The problem the Journo's have now is that most of Joe Rogan's friends are UFC fighters so you can't really gang on up on them without getting knocked out verbally or physically like you can on other wank dads.
Post by: Nintex on January 17, 2022, 07:16:36 PM
:iface
Post by: team filler on January 17, 2022, 07:29:42 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 18, 2022, 11:00:43 AM
https://twitter.com/presenttensefit/status/1482470466229002243
https://twitter.com/nhannahjones/status/1482518745193107457
https://twitter.com/SilpaKov/status/1482470033167032322
https://twitter.com/whstancil/status/1482470084870291456
https://twitter.com/iproposethis/status/1482539713714016262
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https://twitter.com/iproposethis/status/1482543850627350532
https://twitter.com/iproposethis/status/1482544758643834880
https://twitter.com/iproposethis/status/1482546188863754245
https://twitter.com/iproposethis/status/1482544758643834880
https://twitter.com/iproposethis/status/1482546188863754245
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:rofl
Post by: benjipwns on January 18, 2022, 10:44:49 PM
twitter.com/TheJuggernaut88/status/1482687149179047937
The problem the Journo's have now is that most of Joe Rogan's friends are UFC fighters so you can't really gang on up on them without getting knocked out verbally or physically like you can on other wank dads.
Quote from: https://dossier.substack.com/p/270-doctors-called-out-joe-rogan
Yet part of the letter reads::hmm
“As physicians, we bear the arduous weight of a pandemic that has stretched our medical systems to their limits and only stands to be exacerbated by the anti-vaccination sentiment woven into this and other episodes of Rogan’s podcast.”
Paradoxically, the disseminators of this petition are guilty of the very misinformation label that they’ve attached to Rogan. In fact, neither of the two reported co authors of the letter — Jessica Rivera and Ben Rein — possess medical degrees. Rivera holds a master’s degree and Rein is a PhD academic who researches psychiatry.
The letter denouncing Joe Rogan and pressuring Spotify to censor his speech has all kinds of random signatories. By my count, the letter is signed by over 50 PhD academics, around 60 college professors, 29 nurses, 10 students, 4 medical residents, and even a handful of… science podcasters.
The letter, which uses the word misinformation nine times in five paragraphs, concludes with a call for Spotify to censor Rogan as part of a policy to “moderate misinformation on the platform.”
Notably, there is no information on who or what group is behind the creation and circulation of the open letter. Rivera, the reported lead author of the letter, is associated with the far-left Rockefeller Foundation and The Atlantic, and she is a CNN contributor.
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jayste Jan 16 Liked by Jordan Schachtel
We have 270 signatures here and over 15 THOUSAND medical professionals and scientists FIGHTING this nonsense and pushing for Nuremberg 2.0 for Crimes Against Humanity. I'll stick with REAL science instead of government propaganda.
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Leonidas Jan 16 Liked by Jordan Schachtel:rollsafe
Rogan is a hero and a fighter. How about we get the 96,000 signatories (or whatever it is now) of the Great Barrington Declaration to weigh in now? It’s time to get this party started and boot Fauci and his cronies influence out of our lives forever.
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Post by: D3RANG3D on January 19, 2022, 04:15:34 AM
Post by: benjipwns on January 20, 2022, 03:31:07 PM
https://twitter.com/unclearirony/status/1478840020664471553https://twitter.com/EggerDC/status/1484210663081787392
https://twitter.com/masonpelt/status/1478955214283718669spoiler (click to show/hide)https://twitter.com/SeekingReality7/status/1478912733882077193
https://twitter.com/Juniperoxide/status/1478909795503681539
https://twitter.com/beef_swell/status/1478915871334670337
https://twitter.com/GehringTed/status/1478956381201788928
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Post by: Tycoon Padre on January 21, 2022, 02:36:40 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 21, 2022, 03:12:40 PM
Quote from: https://nationalpost.com/opinion/jordan-peterson-why-i-am-no-longer-a-tenured-professor-at-the-university-of-toronto
I recently resigned from my position as full tenured professor at the University of Toronto. I am now professor emeritus, and before I turned sixty. Emeritus is generally a designation reserved for superannuated faculty, albeit those who had served their term with some distinction. I had envisioned teaching and researching at the U of T, full time, until they had to haul my skeleton out of my office. I loved my job. And my students, undergraduates and graduates alike, were positively predisposed toward me. But that career path was not meant to be. There were many reasons, including the fact that I can now teach many more people and with less interference online. But here’s a few more:
First, my qualified and supremely trained heterosexual white male graduate students (and I’ve had many others, by the way) face a negligible chance of being offered university research positions, despite stellar scientific dossiers. This is partly because of Diversity, Inclusivity and Equity mandates (my preferred acronym: DIE). These have been imposed universally in academia, despite the fact that university hiring committees had already done everything reasonable for all the years of my career, and then some, to ensure that no qualified “minority” candidates were ever overlooked. My students are also partly unacceptable precisely because they are my students. I am academic persona non grata, because of my unacceptable philosophical positions. And this isn’t just some inconvenience. These facts rendered my job morally untenable. How can I accept prospective researchers and train them in good conscience knowing their employment prospects to be minimal?
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Just exactly what am I supposed to do when I meet a graduate student or young professor, hired on DIE grounds? Manifest instant skepticism regarding their professional ability? What a slap in the face to a truly meritorious young outsider. And perhaps that’s the point. The DIE ideology is not friend to peace and tolerance. It is absolutely and completely the enemy of competence and justice.
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Finally, do you know that Vladimir Putin himself is capitalizing on this woke madness? Anna Mahjar-Barducci at MEMRI.org covered his recent speech. I quote from the article’s translation: “The advocates of so-called ‘social progress’ believe they are introducing humanity to some kind of a new and better consciousness. Godspeed, hoist the flags, as we say, go right ahead. The only thing that I want to say now is that their prescriptions are not new at all. It may come as a surprise to some people, but Russia has been there already. After the 1917 revolution, the Bolsheviks, relying on the dogmas of Marx and Engels, also said that they would change existing ways and customs, and not just political and economic ones, but the very notion of human morality and the foundations of a healthy society. The destruction of age-old values, religion, and relations between people, up to and including the total rejection of family (we had that, too), encouragement to inform on loved ones — all this was proclaimed progress and, by the way, was widely supported around the world back then and was quite fashionable, same as today. By the way, the Bolsheviks were absolutely intolerant of opinions other than theirs.
“This, I believe, should call to mind some of what we are witnessing now. Looking at what is happening in a number of Western countries, we are amazed to see the domestic practices — which we, fortunately, have left, I hope — in the distant past. The fight for equality and against discrimination has turned into aggressive dogmatism bordering on absurdity, when the works of the great authors of the past — such as Shakespeare — are no longer taught at schools or universities, because their ideas are believed to be backward. The classics are declared backward and ignorant of the importance of gender or race. In Hollywood, memos are distributed about proper storytelling and how many characters of what color or gender should be in a movie. This is even worse than the agitprop department of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.”
This, from the head of the former totalitarian enterprise, against whom we fought a five decades’ long Cold War, risking the entire planet (in a very real manner). This, from the head of a country riven in a literally genocidal manner by ideas that Putin himself attributes to the progressives in the West, to the generally accepting audience of his once-burned (once (!)) twice-shy listeners.
And all of you going along with the DIE activists, whatever your reasons: this is on you. Professors. Cowering cravenly in pretence and silence. Teaching your students to dissimulate and lie. To get along. As the walls crumble. For shame. CEOs: signalling a virtue you don’t possess and shouldn’t want to please a minority who literally live their lives by displeasure. You’re evil capitalists, after all, and should be proud of it. At the moment, I can’t tell if you’re more reprehensibly timid even than the professors. Why the hell don’t you banish the human resource DIE upstarts back to the more-appropriately-named Personnel departments, stop them from interfering with the psyches of you and your employees, and be done with it? Musicians, artists, writers: stop bending your sacred and meritorious art to the demands of the propagandists before you fatally betray the spirit of your own intuition. Stop censoring your thought. Stop saying you will hire for your orchestral and theatrical productions for any reason other than talent and excellence. That’s all you have. That’s all any of us have.
He who sows the wind will reap the whirlwind. And the wind is rising.
Post by: Tripon on January 23, 2022, 11:20:47 AM
Kawme Brown being an anti-Vax crank is on brand.
Post by: Nintex on January 23, 2022, 05:11:56 PM
Post by: Nintex on January 24, 2022, 08:09:50 PM
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1485769973809168385 (https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1485769973809168385)
Post by: chronovore on January 25, 2022, 02:55:19 AM
Not sure if the world is ready for 4.5 hours of JORP and ROGANToo bad I misplaced my coupon for a free bunker-buster strike.
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1485769973809168385 (https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1485769973809168385)
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 25, 2022, 09:58:14 AM
Jorp's boring lectures and podcasts are my number 1 sleep aid tho :lol
Post by: Nintex on January 26, 2022, 01:16:44 PM
:kermit
Post by: benjipwns on January 27, 2022, 03:52:37 AM
:dead
Post by: benjipwns on January 27, 2022, 03:54:33 AM
Post by: Nintex on January 27, 2022, 06:01:45 AM
Post by: benjipwns on January 29, 2022, 08:27:25 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 29, 2022, 10:12:38 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 29, 2022, 10:14:14 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 31, 2022, 09:08:12 PM
:awesome
Post by: D3RANG3D on February 01, 2022, 05:01:18 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10463245/Former-UCLA-lecturer-threatens-philosophy-department-mass-shooting-email.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus
Post by: Nintex on February 01, 2022, 05:56:34 PM
A. Was an FBI informant
B. Went to CIA summer camp that one time
C. Aided Hillary with opening a PDF during an internship
Post by: Tripon on February 01, 2022, 11:54:21 PM
https://twitter.com/tadproletarian/status/1487935791057752065
Post by: benjipwns on February 02, 2022, 11:01:28 AM
https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1488208864881295364
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1488612410915184641
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https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1488199044656730117
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Post by: chronovore on February 03, 2022, 01:19:44 AM
Post by: benjipwns on February 03, 2022, 01:47:15 AM
Post by: benjipwns on February 06, 2022, 04:06:07 PM
the replies going "actually, it's very important" and "read some Edward Said" :dead
Post by: Nintex on February 07, 2022, 07:32:35 AM
"Boris Johnson goes around creating more children than China" :dead
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 07, 2022, 07:38:36 AM
Post by: benjipwns on February 08, 2022, 07:38:46 PM
https://twitter.com/ASFleischman/status/1491191339845046274
https://twitter.com/cjciaramella/status/1491200590080524288
Post by: benjipwns on February 13, 2022, 06:06:36 PM
Post by: chronovore on February 14, 2022, 01:49:02 AM
https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1492217020619759618
Neither were AR-15 rifles, you inarticulate, disingenuous, illogical manlette.
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 14, 2022, 10:46:33 AM
Or did they? :thinking
Post by: benjipwns on February 15, 2022, 03:01:33 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 15, 2022, 03:02:08 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 16, 2022, 08:09:07 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 17, 2022, 12:42:02 PM
What's the deal with perverts
:whatsthedeal
Post by: benjipwns on February 17, 2022, 04:12:23 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 17, 2022, 04:12:38 PM
Post by: Nintex on February 19, 2022, 07:16:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1po9pNs8RU
Post by: benjipwns on February 19, 2022, 07:39:16 PM
https://twitter.com/mschlapp/status/1494779291917291526
Post by: Nintex on February 19, 2022, 07:56:02 PM
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https://twitter.com/mschlapp/status/1494782539323645954 (https://twitter.com/mschlapp/status/1494782539323645954)
https://twitter.com/mschlapp/status/1495140630825209856 (https://twitter.com/mschlapp/status/1495140630825209856)
https://twitter.com/mschlapp/status/1495140630825209856 (https://twitter.com/mschlapp/status/1495140630825209856)
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https://twitter.com/CPAC/status/1494461669262647299 (https://twitter.com/CPAC/status/1494461669262647299)
and some sick merch
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FL_pCYKX0A07N-s?format=jpg)
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I predict a lot of drama as they perform "Cancel culture the musical" and a Donald Trump Anti-fa sing-along karaoke.
Post by: benjipwns on February 19, 2022, 11:18:02 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 20, 2022, 06:26:02 PM
what the fuck :dead
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1po9pNs8RU
who would have thought that Jorp would be the one to bring back prog rock :titus
Post by: Nintex on February 20, 2022, 06:31:12 PM
https://twitter.com/TheKavernacle/status/1494643729432514603Is he going to sing?
Post by: benjipwns on February 21, 2022, 06:02:24 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMIoF2IWQAMe-4B?format=png&name=small)
Post by: benjipwns on February 21, 2022, 06:32:26 PM
https://twitter.com/mschlapp/status/1495762134403276801
Post by: Nintex on February 23, 2022, 07:51:33 PM
:doge
Post by: Nintex on February 24, 2022, 04:54:29 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on February 24, 2022, 05:49:20 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/therecount/status/1496949627207176194
Post by: benjipwns on February 24, 2022, 11:12:29 PM
no GREG don't - your DIET tips are too important for humanity
Post by: benjipwns on February 26, 2022, 10:14:56 AM
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1497393473959378946
Post by: benjipwns on February 26, 2022, 10:32:36 AM
https://twitter.com/bernybelvedere/status/1497232834435719169
Post by: benjipwns on February 26, 2022, 12:30:47 PM
:dead
Post by: Rufus on February 26, 2022, 06:40:56 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 28, 2022, 09:26:34 AM
Post by: benjipwns on February 28, 2022, 02:53:23 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 28, 2022, 02:58:06 PM
Post by: Nintex on February 28, 2022, 03:06:26 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMp9YeJX0AALiTu?format=png&name=small)Ukraine is blowing up their own tanks and bombing their own cities for the propaganda effort :rollsafe
Post by: Nintex on March 02, 2022, 06:40:08 PM
Post by: team filler on March 02, 2022, 07:14:07 PM
:delicious
Post by: Nintex on March 04, 2022, 03:39:48 PM
This is stolen nazi gold :lol
Post by: VomKriege on March 05, 2022, 09:18:17 AM
Post by: benjipwns on March 05, 2022, 10:23:43 AM
Post by: Polident Hive on March 05, 2022, 10:59:27 AM
https://youtu.be/CVRxKlufj-k
This is filmed like he's on the Doom HUD.
Post by: benjipwns on March 05, 2022, 01:57:52 PM
https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1500120971448967169
Post by: benjipwns on March 05, 2022, 08:25:34 PM
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1500245519821676556
:rollsafe
Post by: benjipwns on March 05, 2022, 11:33:17 PM
Post by: team filler on March 08, 2022, 02:04:30 AM
Post by: Nintex on March 09, 2022, 06:21:03 AM
https://twitter.com/talkRADIO/status/1501515582797139973 (https://twitter.com/talkRADIO/status/1501515582797139973)
Post by: Pissy F Benny on March 09, 2022, 06:51:17 AM
Post by: benjipwns on March 09, 2022, 01:20:22 PM
At least one of these is not like the others.
Post by: benjipwns on March 10, 2022, 02:37:25 PM
Post by: Nintex on March 10, 2022, 06:03:36 PM
Trouble in wank dad paradise
Post by: Nintex on March 12, 2022, 08:01:19 AM
Hitler was a war criminal, but
Post by: benjipwns on March 12, 2022, 12:29:52 PM
https://twitter.com/philipaklein/status/1502323902361575433
Post by: benjipwns on March 14, 2022, 10:55:48 AM
Post by: benjipwns on March 14, 2022, 06:09:29 PM
Post by: BisMarckie on March 14, 2022, 06:17:35 PM
Post by: Nintex on March 16, 2022, 04:02:12 AM
What is this
Post by: benjipwns on March 17, 2022, 04:13:57 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 17, 2022, 07:14:02 PM
https://twitter.com/JerryDunleavy/status/1504208663141134350
:hmm
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 19, 2022, 05:56:48 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 22, 2022, 12:51:49 AM
https://twitter.com/nhannahjones/status/1506099458307764224
https://twitter.com/nhannahjones/status/1506109428143202308
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https://twitter.com/nhannahjones/status/1506071237306499074
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Post by: Pissy F Benny on March 22, 2022, 04:56:18 AM
Post by: Nintex on March 22, 2022, 12:24:41 PM
:info
Post by: benjipwns on March 22, 2022, 05:16:18 PM
https://twitter.com/KT_So_It_Goes/status/1506268973763072000
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on March 23, 2022, 01:27:24 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/bad_takes/status/1506433855095558147
And white men can jump!
https://mobile.twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1505963944090996743
Post by: team filler on March 23, 2022, 02:36:11 AM
Post by: chronovore on March 23, 2022, 02:49:35 AM
kirk's head and face looks like if you took a cartoon character and brought it into real life :lol
My favorite response in that thread:
"It looks like his facial features are gathering together for warmth."
Post by: Nintex on March 24, 2022, 07:21:13 PM
:doge
Post by: BIONIC on March 24, 2022, 07:35:16 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 25, 2022, 04:58:46 PM
Post by: benjipwns on March 25, 2022, 09:25:12 PM
It's about food so I'll allow it.
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 28, 2022, 10:43:36 AM
Post by: Nintex on March 29, 2022, 06:05:24 PM
:fbm
Post by: benjipwns on March 31, 2022, 07:47:18 PM
Post by: benjipwns on April 02, 2022, 01:03:53 PM
Post by: benjipwns on April 02, 2022, 01:11:12 PM
Much theory:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPWCGTtWUAce6Ag?format=jpg&name=small)
Quality discourse:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPV1crnXwAoTygi?format=jpg&name=small)
Post by: benjipwns on April 02, 2022, 03:43:50 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPM3QUDXIAMQ7s2?format=jpg&name=small)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPNCYoQXsAMCM3l?format=jpg&name=small)
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on April 02, 2022, 05:08:15 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1509282377260056589
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 03, 2022, 05:03:14 AM
Feels like the grifter aspect makes it belong here
Post by: benjipwns on April 04, 2022, 07:18:56 PM
Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 05, 2022, 03:56:11 AM
Post by: Propagandhim on April 05, 2022, 10:58:42 AM
:dead
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on April 05, 2022, 03:48:01 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/natalie_allison/status/1511312673035718668
Post by: who is ted danson? on April 07, 2022, 01:42:18 PM
He hates mexicans
He's just like you and me
Post by: benjipwns on April 22, 2022, 09:42:09 PM
Post by: VomKriege on April 24, 2022, 11:08:25 AM
https://twitter.com/roddreher/status/1510746411591159816
Shifting of the Overton Europe to the Mittel.
Post by: Tripon on April 24, 2022, 08:12:07 PM
https://twitter.com/zekegonzalez22/status/1516826073136353282
Post by: benjipwns on April 24, 2022, 10:48:53 PM
Post by: benjipwns on April 25, 2022, 10:10:36 PM
Post by: VomKriege on April 27, 2022, 06:13:00 AM
The Taco Bell Curve
Oh it's another Murray that writes questionable books. :lol
Post by: benjipwns on April 29, 2022, 05:36:43 PM
:what
Post by: benjipwns on April 29, 2022, 05:37:30 PM
:rollsafe
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 29, 2022, 06:49:00 PM
Post by: benjipwns on April 29, 2022, 08:39:18 PM
Harry Potter, not 1984, is her reference? :whatHarry Potter is a great fiction novel to read but it seems like it is becoming the reality we are currently living under more and more each day.
Post by: benjipwns on April 29, 2022, 08:59:47 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRgiVv8WUAA2FzX?format=png&name=small)
Post by: Nintex on April 30, 2022, 11:35:18 AM
Post by: VomKriege on May 06, 2022, 05:38:59 AM
Post by: VomKriege on May 06, 2022, 05:42:18 AM
https://twitter.com/miniondeathcult/status/1522409875858358274
Post by: D3RANG3D on May 06, 2022, 07:25:30 AM
:whew
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 06, 2022, 12:27:46 PM
Bartimus (Formally Dick Tingler) :dead
Post by: Transhuman on May 06, 2022, 01:15:27 PM
Post by: VomKriege on May 07, 2022, 02:57:21 AM
Post by: benjipwns on May 07, 2022, 04:39:16 AM
Post by: Nintex on May 07, 2022, 05:07:54 AM
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-04-2015/S4GvEj.gif)
Post by: VomKriege on May 07, 2022, 06:17:10 AM
Post by: who is ted danson? on May 07, 2022, 06:28:31 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AmOqQOOPn8
Bartimus (Formally Dick Tingler) :dead
what the fuck
within the first 2 and a half minutes the fuckin fundie is going on about knockin up 12 years old girls. immediately after talking about saving the kids :dead
Post by: benjipwns on May 08, 2022, 02:53:01 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 08, 2022, 11:33:24 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/UberMenchies/status/1523453589879885824
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Post by: VomKriege on May 09, 2022, 06:16:33 AM
Post by: VomKriege on May 11, 2022, 03:19:58 AM
https://twitter.com/miniondeathcult/status/1524148012376727552
Post by: VomKriege on May 11, 2022, 03:39:21 AM
Sad.
Post by: VomKriege on May 11, 2022, 06:40:38 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 12, 2022, 12:15:29 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSi1l5aaMAAiprX?format=jpg&name=small)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSi1l5ZaQAEH2Sk?format=jpg&name=small)
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 12, 2022, 12:54:14 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 16, 2022, 07:19:52 PM
Post by: VomKriege on May 17, 2022, 03:35:14 PM
Jorp has pretty narrow ideas of attractive female body types.
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https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1526279181545390083
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https://twitter.com/garf_marenghi/status/1526611238167404544
Post by: benjipwns on May 17, 2022, 06:45:33 PM
:nsfwhttps://twitter.com/rajat_suresh/status/1526325536590635012
Jorp has pretty narrow ideas of attractive female body types.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 17, 2022, 06:58:19 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 17, 2022, 07:03:47 PM
I would like a list ofJorp Approved Hoes plz :shaq
Preferably in video form with him breaking down crying 4 times in 20 mins :rash
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 17, 2022, 08:40:03 PM
Knock-kneed bimbos walkin' like hoes
You can have them bimbos
I'll keep my women like Flo Jo
Post by: benjipwns on May 17, 2022, 10:30:04 PM
Quote from: https://www.npr.org/2022/05/17/1098787088/a-pro-trump-film-suggests-its-data-are-so-accurate-it-solved-a-murder-thats-fals
The claims appear in a new pro-Trump film called "2,000 Mules,"
...
Trump's official spokesperson, Liz Harrington, said True The Vote "solved a murder of a young little girl in Atlanta. I mean, they are heroes." Fans of the film have echoed that message on social media.
That claim is false.
Authorities in Georgia arrested and secured indictments against two suspects in the murder of Secoriea Turner in August 2021.
In response to NPR's inquiries, True The Vote acknowledged it had contacted law enforcement more than two months later, meaning it played no role in those arrests or indictments.
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"We chose to look at two murders that were ebbing on cold case status," Engelbrecht says in one scene of the film. The film then describes just one case: the killing of Secoriea Turner on July 4, 2020 in Atlanta.
Phillips says he and his team obtained device data from the area of the shooting, which showed "only a handful of unique devices that could have pulled the trigger...each of these devices has a unique device ID, and we turned the bulk of this information over to the Federal Bureau of Investigation."
"Now, I read they've arrested two suspects," D'Souza responds to Phillips.
"They have," Phillips says.
In an episode of his podcast promoting the film, D'Souza said Phillips and Engelbrecht provided their analysis to the FBI, which turned the data over to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation (GBI). "Shortly after that," D'Souza said, "boom" - there were two arrests and indictments.
NPR contacted the GBI to fact-check this claim.
"The GBI did not receive information from True the Vote that connected to the Secoriea Turner investigation," said Nelly Miles, the GBI's Director of the Office of Public and Governmental Affairs.
An attorney for Secoriea Turner's family told NPR they had never heard of Engelbrecht's and Phillips' analysis either.
"I am not aware that any of this occurred," said the attorney, Mawuli Davis.
Engelbrecht and Phillips told NPR they did not have time for an interview, and Engelbrecht responded to NPR's questions by email.
Engelbrecht wrote that she "called a contact at the FBI" and Phillips gave him the information about the Turner case "on or about October 25, 2021."
But the Fulton County District Attorney announced the indictment of both defendants more than two months earlier, on Aug. 13, 2021.
Quote
"There is an international organization called ACLED [Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project] that monitors the cell phones of all violent rioters around the world," D'Souza said on the Dan Bongino Show. "What True The Vote did was they took the cell phone data on the mules and matched it against the ACLED data on the rioters. And guess what? There's a pretty big overlap."
In the film, Phillips also cites ACLED, which is a nonprofit research organization.
"There's an organization that tracks the device IDs across all violent protests around the world. We took a look at our 242 mules in Atlanta and, sure enough, dozens and dozens and dozens of our mules show up on the ACLED databases," Phillips says in the film. "This is not grandma out walking her dog, these are, you know, violent criminals sometimes."
ACLED told NPR both claims are categorically false.
"This is not the type of analysis you can use ACLED data for, and it is highly unlikely that these conclusions have any basis in fact," said Sam Jones, senior communications manager at ACLED.
"This is not what we do - we do not track device IDs," Roudabeh Kishi, the director of research and innovation at ACLED, told NPR in an interview.
ACLED does track violent incidents around the world, including riots, as well as peaceful protests. Their data do not include specific locations inside a city - such as neighborhoods or city blocks - where protests took place. ACLED does not track the time of day of those incidents or generally note individual participants, except for high-profile leaders.
Kishi said ACLED welcomes input and questions from researchers who might be interested in using ACLED's data. "We never heard from the filmmakers," said Kishi.
"Seeing things like this is quite frustrating, because this is really the direct opposite of what we're trying to do," said Kishi.
In an email to NPR, Engelbrecht said that Phillips was not actually referring to ACLED when he said, "There's an organization that tracks the device IDs across all violent protests around the world" and then mentioned ACLED. She would not specify what organization Phillips was citing, and said Phillips relied on "multiple databases" to reach the conclusion included in the film.
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Phillips said in another interview with right-wing commentator Charlie Kirk that it took "12 people, 16 hours a day, for 15 months" to conduct their data analysis. To help with that effort, Phillips said, "We actually do have access to several very high-powered computers.":bedroomeyes
"We do most of the work in Plano, Tex., and part of the work in the High Performance Computing Center on the campus of Starkville, Miss.," Phillips told Kirk in the interview, which has more than a million views on Rumble.
It appears that Phillips was referring to the Portera High Performance Computing Center, which houses the High Performance Computing Collaboratory at Mississippi State University in Starkville. NPR contacted the university to learn more.
"Mississippi State University, to our knowledge, has done zero analysis or computing on behalf of True The Vote," said Sid Salter, Chief Communications Officer and Director of the Office of Public Affairs at Mississippi State University.
The closest Phillips got to the computing center, Salter said, was a "publicly available tour" of the facility.
...
Even after NPR provided Salter's comments to Engelbrecht, she continued to claim that Phillips "leased an office in the Portera High Performance Computing Center."
Mississippi State University then provided NPR with a copy of OpSec's lease agreement, signed by Phillips, which shows that his office was actually in a separate facility called the Industry Partners Building.
Post by: benjipwns on May 17, 2022, 11:33:08 PM
https://twitter.com/BobSaietta/status/1526367734954696704
Post by: VomKriege on May 18, 2022, 08:04:11 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 18, 2022, 09:48:01 AM
Quote
2000 Mules is a 2022 American political film by Dinesh D'Souza that falsely[2][3][4] alleges Democrat-aligned individuals, or "mules," were paid by unnamed nonprofit organizations to illegally collect and deposit ballots into drop boxes in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin during the 2020 presidential election.
The film presented a single anonymous witness who said she saw people picking up what she "assumed" to be payments for ballot collection in Arizona; no evidence of payments was presented in any of the other four states.[4] The film presents no evidence that ballots were collected from a nonprofit to be deposited in drop boxes.[5]
Wow, guess that about wraps it up for Biden!
Post by: VomKriege on May 19, 2022, 02:46:07 AM
https://twitter.com/miniondeathcult/status/1526690786183503873
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 19, 2022, 07:11:08 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 19, 2022, 10:20:24 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 19, 2022, 10:28:49 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 19, 2022, 10:39:51 AM
Post by: VomKriege on May 20, 2022, 05:29:54 AM
Post by: VomKriege on May 20, 2022, 05:41:47 AM
Post by: HardcoreRetro on May 20, 2022, 05:48:38 AM
His book is so good. I think this is from the first few pages of Maps of Meaning. I had to quit reading when he started writing about wearing a cape and crocodile leather boots to a high security prison. Almost choked from laughing too hard.
Post by: VomKriege on May 20, 2022, 07:35:35 AM
https://twitter.com/AlphaMasculini1/status/1524801751240564736
:skinner
Poe's Law in full effect.
Post by: VomKriege on May 20, 2022, 06:32:07 PM
Mike Pillow at least sells pillows besides repeating every crazy claim he gets fed.
Post by: benjipwns on May 20, 2022, 06:38:47 PM
:bedroomeyes "Challenge Accepted"
Post by: VomKriege on May 21, 2022, 01:54:41 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 21, 2022, 10:14:02 PM
https://twitter.com/raresteamedhams/status/1528196514006372352
Post by: VomKriege on May 22, 2022, 02:25:53 AM
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I don't know if you realize... but you are a bunch of Ben Afflecks.
Post by: VomKriege on May 22, 2022, 09:12:24 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughIDWspam/comments/urdn7z/jordan_beeferson_got_dragged_so_hard_for_his/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughIDWspam/comments/urdn7z/jordan_beeferson_got_dragged_so_hard_for_his/)
Post by: VomKriege on May 22, 2022, 12:40:08 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 22, 2022, 01:20:12 PM
Post by: D3RANG3D on May 22, 2022, 01:42:49 PM
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/837733610157387779
(https://i.imgur.com/0yBeUNT.png)
Post by: VomKriege on May 23, 2022, 11:17:26 PM
https://twitter.com/BretWeinstein/status/1526907452083474432
https://twitter.com/BretWeinstein/status/1527200651226259456
Post by: Transhuman on May 24, 2022, 01:06:46 AM
Post by: VomKriege on May 24, 2022, 01:55:04 AM
Post by: Nintex on May 24, 2022, 02:06:26 AM
According to google there is no airborne aspect.JRE episode #1067 says otherwise. Plus Jorp spend 6 months on a nut diet which nearly killed him if it wasn't for an Uzbek witch doctors detoxing treatment. Stay safe everyone
Post by: Transhuman on May 24, 2022, 02:17:39 AM
The only nut exposure i'm careful about is the kind you get listening to JRE
Post by: jorma on May 24, 2022, 03:11:05 AM
i don't think they did that for shits and giggles so i guess there has to be some merit to it, although i've always wondered how she stayed alive for so long with that sort of allergy
Post by: Transhuman on May 24, 2022, 03:36:06 AM
at my old workplace one entire floor had a no peanut policy because one of my colleauges had a severe allergy that would potentially kill her if she so much as smelled a peanut
I googled this and it's wrong, unless you were being hyperbolic.
Post by: VomKriege on May 24, 2022, 03:40:36 AM
Post by: jorma on May 24, 2022, 04:44:51 AM
at my old workplace one entire floor had a no peanut policy because one of my colleauges had a severe allergy that would potentially kill her if she so much as smelled a peanut
I googled this and it's wrong, unless you were being hyperbolic.
i don't know i guess i just assume they banned peanuts on an entire floor for a valid reason
Post by: Transhuman on May 24, 2022, 05:19:37 AM
Post by: VomKriege on May 24, 2022, 05:46:33 AM
at my old workplace one entire floor had a no peanut policy because one of my colleauges had a severe allergy that would potentially kill her if she so much as smelled a peanut
I googled this and it's wrong, unless you were being hyperbolic.
i don't know i guess i just assume they banned peanuts on an entire floor for a valid reason
And that's why you're not a wank dad.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on May 24, 2022, 12:49:21 PM
:usacry :american :bedroomeyes
Post by: benjipwns on May 29, 2022, 10:45:54 PM
:hmm
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2022, 07:55:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr6T9lcT_ps
Post by: who is ted danson? on May 31, 2022, 04:11:38 PM
Post by: benjipwns on June 02, 2022, 10:52:08 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/LordVaderMC/status/1532153046695759872
https://twitter.com/tooslick222/status/1532081072921526275
https://twitter.com/Mbladam/status/1532075080809062401
https://twitter.com/tooslick222/status/1532081072921526275
https://twitter.com/Mbladam/status/1532075080809062401
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Post by: Polident Hive on June 03, 2022, 05:56:50 PM
Post by: VomKriege on June 07, 2022, 02:32:22 PM
Post by: benjipwns on June 07, 2022, 10:43:01 PM
Post by: VomKriege on June 08, 2022, 02:58:22 AM
Post by: Nintex on June 16, 2022, 04:03:37 PM
I nearly forgot this happened
Post by: benjipwns on June 21, 2022, 01:37:08 PM
Quote from: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2022/06/19/scott_adams_trump_can_be_more_influential_than_any_president_if_he_fixes_the_news.html
What is it that Trump could do that no one has ever done with straight unbiased reporting? Think about it. The reason no one wants straight, unbiased reporting is that no one would watch it. If you give me "just the news," no one will watch it. So it's not a business model that works.
What is the one thing that Trump, alone among anybody, could fix? He could make you watch the news. And he could also make sure you heard both sides, and he could also take his time.
Imagine if he took a Rush Limbaugh-style three or four-hour block every day and had on experts from both sides and then just dusted them both off.
Instead of having one expert give their opinion, which is the worst model in the world (how it is currently being done), or there is a time limit and two experts say the other is wrong before they run out of time and the public gets nothing.
But you give me a three or four-hour block, it doesn't have to be every day and it could be recorded, and you have Trump beating up both sides and calling bullshit on both sides, I could not turn away from that. That would be so provocative and interesting, especially if you allowed swearing.
If you allowed swearing, and let Trump mediate and interrupt and control it, it would be maddening and frustrating and beautiful. Trump could do this with his specific set of talents (especially his talent stack from having once been President of the United States) and his natural ability to provoke, his personality in the room, his desire to be in front of the public, his desire to make a difference, his desire to change things.
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The most entertaining path for the observers, that is us, would be for Trump to save us by not running for president. If he runs for president, we're going to fight more. But wouldn't you love to see Trump host a climate change debate and actually see Trump's mind getting changed in real-time? I'm not saying it would or should, but how much would you love to watch that?:dead :dead :dead :dead
How much would you love someone who is qualified and smart and has a nice chunk of time, like a whole Joe Rogan-length, three-hour block, wrestling with Trump and someone on the other side until you actually watched Trump change his mind on a major topic right in front of you? Because he could. Trump would be able to pull that off, especially if it had entertainment value. Michael Shellenberger would be the type of guest who would be perfect for that format.
So you've heard the idea. Trump becomes the Rush Limbaugh replacement but way better because he's got people on and he's fighting with them and he's really getting down to the good stuff. That opens the path for a moderate Republican who could pretty much walk in and take over everything at this point.
This would basically give you everything. And the "legitimate" news would still be fighting with Trump but when they're fighting with Trump it is like CNN vs. FOX News, it is not really hurting anybody, it is just kind of entertaining.
So you tell me that's not the best thing for America.
Yeah, the guy who often ignored the results of his own game show to do something he wanted to do instead is going to sit for three hours and moderate a debate with fair skepticism and have his mind changed. :neogaf
Post by: benjipwns on June 21, 2022, 01:44:18 PM
:society
Post by: benjipwns on June 21, 2022, 11:02:15 PM
Post by: VomKriege on June 22, 2022, 02:56:31 AM
Post by: VomKriege on June 29, 2022, 12:31:15 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 29, 2022, 01:41:08 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://i.imgur.com/lNsi8aF.gif)
[close]
Post by: Nintex on June 29, 2022, 02:30:58 PM
Post by: VomKriege on June 30, 2022, 08:13:28 AM
Post by: benjipwns on June 30, 2022, 02:55:35 PM
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The company also announced Wednesday that DailyWire+ has signed a multi-year deal with psychologist, professor and author Jordan Peterson and will also handle the ad sales and distribution associated with The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast.
Peterson’s show will continue to be posted on a twice-weekly basis, with his existing podcast and video library housed on the platform and exclusive bonus content.
:hyper EXCLUSIVE BONUS CONTENT :hyper
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 30, 2022, 03:01:12 PM
Post by: benjipwns on June 30, 2022, 05:55:27 PM
https://twitter.com/damintoell/status/1542286813888389120
Post by: benjipwns on July 01, 2022, 02:45:15 PM
:salute It's rare to see such bravery in the face of persecution.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 01, 2022, 02:59:40 PM
lol @ going on a 15 minute rant cos he copped a temp from twitter for being a dick :girlaff
Post by: Nintex on July 01, 2022, 04:56:15 PM
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Unless I delete the hateful tweet in question but I would rather die than do that:salute
https://twitter.com/tamoorh/status/1542765181356294144 (https://twitter.com/tamoorh/status/1542765181356294144)
:dead
Post by: BIONIC on July 01, 2022, 05:09:37 PM
someone buy me a sub :uguu
Here :jared
Post by: Nintex on July 02, 2022, 02:48:08 AM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1543046254397009922 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1543046254397009922)
Post by: VomKriege on July 02, 2022, 06:18:45 AM
Post by: VomKriege on July 02, 2022, 02:53:30 PM
:what
Post by: benjipwns on July 03, 2022, 06:07:12 AM
Post by: Nintex on July 03, 2022, 03:35:57 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 05, 2022, 05:19:00 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYfKWQqvFac
:salute It's rare to see such bravery in the face of persecution.
"I'd rather die than to delete my tweet" :goty2
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 05, 2022, 10:04:42 PM
:dead
Post by: VomKriege on July 06, 2022, 07:48:47 AM
Post by: VomKriege on July 07, 2022, 05:54:59 AM
He likes DeSantis though.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on July 07, 2022, 12:13:56 PM
Post by: Nintex on July 09, 2022, 08:08:20 AM
:pika
Post by: benjipwns on July 10, 2022, 11:11:32 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXUdkvdXoAAQ3HA?format=jpg&name=small)
:dead
Post by: VomKriege on July 12, 2022, 06:45:51 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 12, 2022, 06:59:50 AM
Post by: who is ted danson? on July 13, 2022, 12:51:03 PM
Post by: Nintex on July 13, 2022, 06:37:26 PM
Inshallah Bin Jordan Al-Peterson
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 13, 2022, 06:48:50 PM
Post by: Nintex on July 13, 2022, 07:16:34 PM
He recites the plot of Kingdom Hearts and then tells them to stop fighting.
As if it is some kind of profound wisdom shared with an entire religious community who will surely translate his message and spread it among the uneducated masses.
Post by: VomKriege on July 16, 2022, 02:23:48 AM
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1547693017716236290
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1547970571178090496
Post by: Nintex on July 16, 2022, 06:59:50 PM
:info
Post by: VomKriege on July 17, 2022, 09:41:10 AM
Post by: VomKriege on July 18, 2022, 04:31:45 AM
Post by: VomKriege on July 20, 2022, 12:00:57 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 20, 2022, 01:03:28 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 20, 2022, 01:05:36 PM
Male Pattern Baldness
also fake news :snob
Post by: VomKriege on July 22, 2022, 05:53:56 AM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on July 22, 2022, 12:27:24 PM
https://youtu.be/HL5c5Bj_B60
:dead
Post by: chronovore on July 23, 2022, 12:27:41 AM
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1550116683599134726
I'm embarrassed at how much I used to like this fucking fartsniffer.
Post by: VomKriege on July 23, 2022, 12:29:52 AM
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 23, 2022, 09:49:51 PM
Post by: benjipwns on July 24, 2022, 12:58:32 AM
I'm embarrassed at how much I used to like this fucking fartsniffer.I mean, he did try to tell us all for years how weird he was.
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1550116683599134726https://twitter.com/scottadamssays/status/1278316325044056064
Post by: Nintex on July 25, 2022, 07:44:32 AM
:salute
Post by: benjipwns on July 26, 2022, 12:19:57 AM
:hmm
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 26, 2022, 12:05:12 PM
Post by: VomKriege on July 28, 2022, 01:08:47 AM
Post by: VomKriege on July 31, 2022, 03:54:26 AM
Quote from: https://taibbi.substack.com/p/im-just-going-to-go-to-the-heart
Alex Moyer has now made two movies in a row, TFW No GF and Alex’s War, that sound too much like journalism for today’s media. (...) She takes characters reduced in panicked media treatments to two-dimensional monsters and renders a nonjudgmental, tautly edited Herzogian treatment of who they are and how they came to be that way.
Greenwald conducted a very softball interview of him surrounding the release of Alex's War.
There's this really weird thing with Alex Jones where he screams about the literal Devil taking over, meeting demons at conventions and having them on videos, etc... at the same level of veracity as anything else on his show. But apologists often just bypass all that to talk to him as if he was a slightly extreme political activist or just an outsider ? And I agree that's one way to look at him, and all the cosmic religious evil AI globalist extermination rambling is just stylistic flair but then you're left in the position that he's aggressively scamming his audience.
Jones gets up on stage at Greenwald and says he never lied intentionally and InfoWars is 90% accurate with no pushback...
:juicy
Like, that director is entitled to make a "judgement free" film that only features Alex Jones & his employees (that's apparently what it is) but with a consummate bullshit artist like Jones I'd be a little cautious if my film was an accurate portrayal of how they present themselves rather than who they are. Doubly so when doing the press tour at the same time of Alex being in court for a bunch of ludicrous lies.
Post by: Nintex on July 31, 2022, 06:49:10 AM
He talked about the Epstein story way before it was accepted to do so and he put many other things 'out there' in terms of corruption and abuse of power that were either true or partially true.
In essence, filtering out the UFO's and Goblins it wasn't much different from Jimmy Dore or Russell Brand. Explaining to people that the system is fucking them over and how and to fight that corruption by staying 'informed' about 'what is really going on'.
As InfoWars expanded on the alt-right/Trump wave however, more and more people with a clear political agenda joined. Roger Stone, Owen Shroyer and the lot. They moved Alex from being anti-government to anti-liberal and anti-progressive and made themselves known to his audience. Drowning out Alex' humanitarianism with mostly traditional conservatism and the culture war. Considering he was on his own for a long time Alex was at first happy with the support and the increase in attention. Only later stating he wished he had never met Roger Stone as getting so much attention would ultimately destroy him.
What Alex needs more than anything (and Joe Rogan explained this perfectly) is an editor.
But he never got that, instead people used him for their own agenda and now he's the fall guy.
Post by: VomKriege on July 31, 2022, 07:00:09 AM
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I mostly think Alex was done wrong by the toxic people he met and hired along the way.
:rogan
Jones truly has amazing PR.
The nasty Bircher, British Israelism, racist foundation was always there.
Post by: Nintex on July 31, 2022, 07:23:17 AM
I'm not saying that he also hasn't himself blame for getting into this jam, but I am saying that the people he met mostly spend their time making it worse and ensured he dug the hole deeper.QuoteI mostly think Alex was done wrong by the toxic people he met and hired along the way.
:rogan
Jones truly has amazing PR.
The nasty Bircher, British Israelism, racist foundation was always there.
Post by: benjipwns on July 31, 2022, 07:30:38 AM
I mostly think Alex was done wrong by the toxic people he met and hired along the way. To briefly explain. Alex Jones was always anti-government and anti elites (anti-bush, anti-obama, anti-big oil, anti-war, anti-WEF) what have you.:lol
He talked about the Epstein story way before it was accepted to do so and he put many other things 'out there' in terms of corruption and abuse of power that were either true or partially true.
In essence, filtering out the UFO's and Goblins it wasn't much different from Jimmy Dore or Russell Brand. Explaining to people that the system is fucking them over and how and to fight that corruption by staying 'informed' about 'what is really going on'.
As InfoWars expanded on the alt-right/Trump wave however, more and more people with a clear political agenda joined. Roger Stone, Owen Shroyer and the lot. They moved Alex from being anti-government to anti-liberal and anti-progressive and made themselves known to his audience. Drowning out Alex' humanitarianism with mostly traditional conservatism and the culture war. Considering he was on his own for a long time Alex was at first happy with the support and the increase in attention. Only later stating he wished he had never met Roger Stone as getting so much attention would ultimately destroy him.
What Alex needs more than anything (and Joe Rogan explained this perfectly) is an editor.
But he never got that, instead people used him for their own agenda and now he's the fall guy.
He courted all these people from Trumpworld and so on because they gave him attention and he thought he could use it. He thought Trump and Bannon were going to call him from the White House for advice. The reason he's become "more insane" is because his real life fell apart even as his business has soared. Alex has always been like this, there was never a "good", "honestly concerned" and "humanitarian" journalist Alex Jones. Sandy Hook was nearly a decade ago, dude.
Post by: VomKriege on July 31, 2022, 12:08:15 PM
Bannon he always hated until going on his podcast recently (both patting the other in the back in embarrassing fashion). For years he painted David Icke as a kook but now had hip as a guest a bunch of times. It's all tactical convenience to him. Owen Shroyer, his lawyers... There's no mistaking who's in charge there in relation to Alex Jones.
Maybe a couple of the gold pushers he associated on earlier or the people at Genesis Communication are more on a equal footing with him but yet again Alex is the star of the operation and the primary mover.
I know some find Knowledge Fight a bit too preachy but listening to actual excerpts from 2015, the mid and early aughts is really illuminating about the shit he already said back then frequently.
The secret is that no one really listen to Infowars, I suspect.
Post by: VomKriege on July 31, 2022, 05:52:17 PM
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Taibbi: Right. Also that instinct to say that the subject matter itself is illegitimate has actually advanced since you made the other movie. So to do Alex Jones, people perhaps won’t even get to the point of watching the movie. It’ll be that forbidden.
Moyer: Oh no, they’ll watch it, they just won’t admit it. They’ll watch it secretly.
:popular :doge
But that's less embarrassing overall, because it's more about her earlier film and the ever elusive "critical reception" than Greenwald just fawning over Alex Jones :
https://twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/1551740804678516736
I'm still :mindblown because even besides the political alignment of Jones, his job is selling overpriced placebo pills. There's barely any "journalism" going on at InfoWars except reading headlines on Drudge or snatching memes on 4chan. The depositions in the Sandy Hook cases are devastating in exposing this. Jones claimed many times he had visions from God and the Devil to explain some of his knowledge.
Even accounting for spicy counter culture cachet, isn't there someone less embarrassing you can ride the coattails of ?
Post by: VomKriege on August 01, 2022, 09:23:13 AM
Post by: VomKriege on August 01, 2022, 09:27:39 AM
Post by: Transhuman on August 01, 2022, 06:10:27 PM
People like Nintex are how well known and established grifters keep getting elected/hired/popular.
For every moron there's an equal and opposite moron, so it all evens out. For every dummy hanging onto Jordan Peterson, Aex Jones, Trump, and Joe Rogan's every word, there's someone out there making the Anita Sarkeesian, Shaun King, AOC, Felicia Sonmez types elected/hired/popular. Have empathy for the grifted, for they know not what they do.
Post by: VomKriege on August 02, 2022, 03:35:59 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 02, 2022, 03:49:35 PM
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1554462703288451074
No, no one can tell him this.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 02, 2022, 08:47:45 PM
Post by: benjipwns on August 06, 2022, 12:29:50 AM
Post by: Nintex on August 07, 2022, 03:44:03 PM
:juche
Post by: VomKriege on August 09, 2022, 02:56:09 AM
Post by: VomKriege on August 09, 2022, 11:29:52 AM
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1556785162012151809
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1556774165981458434
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 09, 2022, 11:52:01 AM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 11, 2022, 12:21:53 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1557709537594945536
https://mobile.twitter.com/mynbc15/status/1557745287283736577
Post by: Nintex on August 11, 2022, 01:32:10 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 11, 2022, 01:43:39 PM
Post by: Nintex on August 11, 2022, 01:46:39 PM
Post by: benjipwns on August 11, 2022, 07:35:40 PM
Even worse than that.https://www.theonion.com/starbucks-to-begin-sinister-phase-two-of-operation-1819565956
https://mobile.twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1557709537594945536
Post by: Maiden Voyage on August 11, 2022, 10:09:16 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 15, 2022, 11:14:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--QS_UyW2SY
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 15, 2022, 11:44:01 AM
Post by: chronovore on August 17, 2022, 05:03:50 PM
https://twitter.com/BudrykZack/status/1557810670678179840
That's fair. It's been years since anyone laughed at Dilbert.
Post by: benjipwns on August 25, 2022, 10:21:43 PM
https://twitter.com/PodcastMovement/status/1562765184841977856
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 25, 2022, 10:25:59 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/chadloder/status/1562987834742489093
Post by: Transhuman on August 26, 2022, 10:11:00 PM
Post by: Nintex on August 27, 2022, 09:23:01 AM
So still no confirmation on who he was arrested by, and for what?Arrested and executed
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1563358252523753472 (https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1563358252523753472)
:doge
Post by: benjipwns on August 28, 2022, 10:14:13 PM
Post by: benjipwns on August 28, 2022, 10:16:04 PM
:hmm
Post by: benjipwns on September 01, 2022, 03:48:00 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOfvaUwWi2k
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 01, 2022, 10:45:41 AM
plus he can spend thousands on a vanity muzik video, but still wears that dog shit beanie :lol :lol :lol
Post by: Nintex on September 01, 2022, 02:45:08 PM
Post by: Propagandhim on September 01, 2022, 03:18:33 PM
No idea where to post this but I have to post it, literally am legally required to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOfvaUwWi2k
:lol Does he ever take that fucking hat off?
Post by: Maiden Voyage on September 02, 2022, 11:52:48 AM
No idea where to post this but I have to post it, literally am legally required to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOfvaUwWi2k
:lol Does he ever take that fucking hat off?
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fitsgoingdown.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F07%2Fimage.png)
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 02, 2022, 12:19:29 PM
Post by: Maiden Voyage on September 02, 2022, 12:43:27 PM
Timcast has to be the all time worst name for a band ever too :rofl
https://www.wikihow.com/Come-Up-with-a-Good-Band-Name
They missed out on an obvious #5: use the same name as your podcast.
Post by: Nintex on September 02, 2022, 03:14:12 PM
Post by: Nintex on September 05, 2022, 04:59:15 PM
https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1566886391828602890 (https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1566886391828602890)
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on September 05, 2022, 05:36:31 PM
:popular :girlaff
Post by: benjipwns on September 07, 2022, 02:41:00 AM
Post by: benjipwns on September 07, 2022, 11:31:44 AM
Post by: benjipwns on September 09, 2022, 01:06:58 AM
Post by: Nintex on September 09, 2022, 02:43:31 PM
You will never guess who he starts talking about :lol
Post by: benjipwns on September 18, 2022, 06:00:56 PM
https://twitter.com/onedimental/status/1570936309367341057
https://twitter.com/ASFleischman/status/1570926361543602176
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 20, 2022, 11:45:59 AM
Post by: benjipwns on September 20, 2022, 03:11:46 PM
:trumps
Post by: benjipwns on September 20, 2022, 11:31:43 PM
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1572327918344474627
https://twitter.com/michmanhat/status/1572331844435320834
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/dumbmailguy/status/1572332374612115457
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Post by: benjipwns on September 21, 2022, 09:11:30 PM
Post by: benjipwns on September 21, 2022, 09:54:44 PM
Post by: Nintex on October 02, 2022, 03:05:54 PM
:wut
Post by: Nintex on October 03, 2022, 02:06:01 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1576969255031296000 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1576969255031296000)
:doge
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on October 03, 2022, 02:36:35 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fco_HRdakAAU64G?format=jpg&name=small)
:trumps
Now wonder he didn't find anything as special counsel
Post by: Coax on October 04, 2022, 05:51:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgF92Wi8J7o
Post by: benjipwns on October 05, 2022, 01:36:31 AM
Post by: Polident Hive on October 05, 2022, 06:01:17 AM
:doge :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgF92Wi8J7o
Big ass recliner
Post by: Nintex on October 08, 2022, 05:54:21 AM
Post by: BIONIC on October 08, 2022, 11:10:03 AM
:dead
Post by: Nintex on October 11, 2022, 02:14:57 PM
Joe absolutely wrecks this clown :lol
Post by: who is ted danson? on October 11, 2022, 04:53:24 PM
https://podcast.ai/
Post by: benjipwns on October 11, 2022, 07:45:24 PM
twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1579773806289178625Joe Rogan: most obvious question in the world
Joe absolutely wrecks this clown :lol
This guy: "Well, no, because it won't and we'd just need to do it better."
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on October 15, 2022, 02:01:30 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/_TimBarker/status/1578187671385493504
Post by: benjipwns on October 18, 2022, 10:21:31 PM
Post by: benjipwns on October 24, 2022, 07:23:18 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 25, 2022, 11:21:14 AM
https://youtu.be/8VxGrwyPAes
spoiler (click to show/hide)
I've not watched the vid, but will pretend to myself thats what it is
[close]
Post by: benjipwns on October 27, 2022, 01:19:53 AM
Post by: benjipwns on October 28, 2022, 07:52:43 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/fripperskitter/status/1544082523784888320
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Post by: benjipwns on October 28, 2022, 10:07:20 PM
Post by: Nintex on October 31, 2022, 05:01:15 PM
This guy is a special kind of wankdad
Post by: benjipwns on November 03, 2022, 02:01:08 AM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
:hesright
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Post by: Nintex on November 09, 2022, 06:53:05 PM
Just like that Joe Rogan flips back to finding Atlantis. :lol
https://twitter.com/Graham__Hancock/status/1590360578270572550 (https://twitter.com/Graham__Hancock/status/1590360578270572550)
Post by: benjipwns on November 15, 2022, 07:09:31 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 18, 2022, 05:35:34 PM
https://youtu.be/i7uQxGx_00Q
:badass
Post by: benjipwns on November 18, 2022, 08:46:14 PM
Saw a reply to this guy a few weeks ago that simply said "Tom Clothes Don't Fit On" that had hundreds of likes, I wonder if he blocked that guy like the one who used to post "Tom Shit On" in reply to every tweet. :lol
Post by: Nintex on November 27, 2022, 02:25:48 PM
Post by: Nintex on November 30, 2022, 02:10:07 PM
https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1597773424516300801 (https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1597773424516300801)
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 30, 2022, 05:03:52 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 30, 2022, 08:16:30 PM
https://youtu.be/HgczOG2c7lU
Post by: benjipwns on December 16, 2022, 02:25:25 PM
Post by: benjipwns on December 16, 2022, 02:41:39 PM
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 18, 2022, 12:21:33 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 19, 2022, 12:25:03 PM
Post by: benjipwns on December 21, 2022, 09:57:58 PM
Post by: Nintex on December 27, 2022, 03:43:44 PM
:pika
Post by: Tasty on December 27, 2022, 05:44:19 PM
https://twitter.com/DaveClips/status/1584214081187500034
Not the fancy pahties :existential
Post by: Nintex on December 28, 2022, 09:45:50 AM
Post by: Nintex on January 02, 2023, 06:15:02 PM
https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/1609751283119935490 (https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/1609751283119935490)
(https://media.tenor.com/uUMOi3Ko9hkAAAAC/knives-out-it-makes-no-damn-sense.gif)
Post by: benjipwns on January 03, 2023, 04:17:06 PM
Post by: Nintex on January 03, 2023, 05:35:20 PM
(https://media.tenor.com/ti7LCNNH3kgAAAAd/heero-yuy-heero.gif)
(https://media.tenor.com/pX2OouThxIAAAAAd/heero-anime.gif)
:thinking
Post by: Nintex on January 04, 2023, 06:42:00 AM
Don't tell me theres a Jordan Peterson tie and blazer badge set :deadNo just custom made suits and ties with little Elon Musk heads and tweets on them
https://twitter.com/dieworkwear/status/1610401726942810112 (https://twitter.com/dieworkwear/status/1610401726942810112)
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 04, 2023, 08:52:43 AM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on January 04, 2023, 02:59:30 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1610389331667193857
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 04, 2023, 04:17:35 PM
Post by: benjipwns on January 04, 2023, 07:30:17 PM
Post by: Potato on January 04, 2023, 09:31:04 PM
Now that Disney has been brought to heel the bois are coming for AppleHe's right though
https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1597773424516300801 (https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1597773424516300801)
Post by: Transhuman on January 06, 2023, 10:38:05 PM
http://shorturl.at/eyHJT
What is that supposed to be?
Post by: Transhuman on January 07, 2023, 04:08:02 AM
Not mad at all.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1610389331667193857
Forgot to add the post I was talking about
https://unshorten.it/
All that for a google spreadsheets link? Fuck I need to get a new ISP
Post by: Himu on January 07, 2023, 09:29:10 PM
https://youtu.be/m281h5wZLb4
https://youtu.be/HXhyENF0fwQ
I pray for you Dr. Peterson.
Post by: Himu on January 09, 2023, 04:23:36 PM
Post by: Nintex on January 09, 2023, 04:59:34 PM
Please do this
Post by: Himu on January 09, 2023, 05:25:01 PM
Post by: Nintex on January 09, 2023, 05:56:56 PM
Canada is becoming a communist state. Makes sense given their leader is the son of Castro. :heh
Nothing tops this conspiracy because it might actually be true :lol
Post by: Nintex on January 11, 2023, 04:16:59 PM
In b4 police raid
Post by: Himu on January 11, 2023, 11:37:22 PM
I agree with Dr. Peterson's description of order and chaos and that the times we live in reward chaotic thinking and untested ideas rather than strict social order. Things are more fluid now. Whether you think that's good or bad is up to the person. Personally, as someone that enjoys strict roles I find the fluidity confounding. I've talked to people with similar experiences. Apparently in Asia, especially for people with autism, it's easier to fit in because you know what the rules are and if you go outside of those rules you're a weirdo. So those with neurodivergent thinking can thrive in that environment because what you see is what you get and rules are static. Meanwhile over here, you can live how you want to the detriment of wider society if you please. The individual is both a blessing and a curse for our society. On one hand it means a more free individual; on the other it takes away someone's role (and therefore purpose) in society. If I know my role - as a man, as a person, as a son, as a parent, as a husband, as a citizen - then life certainly sounds more pleasing. This is a massive benefit of becoming Muslim and honestly despite American society focusing on the individual, we as individuals still have the capacity to choose embracing roles that give us a reason for being.
It certainly raises a philosophical juncture and that is whether or not it's possible to choose to be independent of strict roles, and embrace ones individual freedom without falling into the same apathy so many manage to sink to.
Post by: benjipwns on January 20, 2023, 12:42:10 AM
https://twitter.com/scrowder/status/1615417809529614336
Quote
The contract reads like a dream: four weeks of paid vacation, full editorial control over content produced, a staff to help promote and adapt content, and the right to retain ownership of any content Crowder produced prior to joining The Daily Wire. Responding to Crowder’s claims that the company was doing the bidding of Big Tech by penalizing potential loss of advertising revenue, [Daily Wire CEO] Boreing explained that a contract represents a joint venture between the parties, meaning that both parties “lose a little” when revenue is affected.
“Steven’s philosophy seems to be: ‘I deserve to be paid millions and millions and millions of dollars whether my show drives the revenue or not.’ That’s not a business relationship … He’s looking for a benefactor,” Boreing told viewers. He also revealed that in a phone call with Crowder following the publication of his video on Thursday, the host indicated he believed he was worth closer to $30 million a year.
“You can’t just say, ‘We’re going to pay you $50 million even if the show doesn’t bring in any money,’” Boreing countered, adding that $50 million minus 25 percent “is not punishment by the standards of any human being.”
Quote
Crowder, who had previously lambasted NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick for comparing the league’s contracts to slavery, complained that the proposals floated to him like the one from The Daily Wire were essentially “slave contacts.”
Post by: Nintex on January 25, 2023, 06:06:23 PM
He's defecting?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 26, 2023, 07:02:52 AM
Post by: benjipwns on January 27, 2023, 12:36:56 AM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 27, 2023, 04:55:52 AM
Post by: Nintex on January 27, 2023, 05:39:31 AM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on January 27, 2023, 06:45:21 PM
:lol
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on January 28, 2023, 01:16:11 PM
The Daily Wire insultingly offered Steven Crowder $50 million and he refuses to take this injustice anymore:
I’m looking forward to watching Doubter with Crowder on Infowars.
Defending Steven Crowder, Alex Jones calls Ben Shapiro “Judas Iscariot,” and claims the Daily Wire is “controlled opposition” and “worse than the Democrats”
Quote
People said oh he's a bitch releasing that. He's only recorded people three times. I don't record people very often but I did with Megyn Kelly because when it's that evil you should record it.
Quote
There's some good people at the Daily Wire, I don't wanna attack them all, but I'm just telling you folks they are worse than the Democrats. They are the Judas goats, they are Judas Iscariot. Ben Shapiro is Judas Iscariot.
:rofl
https://www.mediamatters.org/alex-jones/defending-steven-crowder-alex-jones-calls-ben-shapiro-judas-iscariot-and-claims-daily
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 29, 2023, 07:42:17 PM
:badass
Post by: benjipwns on January 29, 2023, 07:55:44 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 29, 2023, 07:59:14 PM
I think it's down to Harris thinking Trump being banned from twitter was good or some shit
Edit: it's COVID shit :snore
Post by: Propagandhim on January 29, 2023, 10:33:49 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 30, 2023, 04:05:27 AM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on January 30, 2023, 03:52:02 PM
:huh
No wonder the all meat diet almost killed him.
Post by: benjipwns on January 31, 2023, 01:21:32 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 31, 2023, 08:22:46 PM
Post by: benjipwns on February 02, 2023, 05:16:51 PM
:hmm
Post by: benjipwns on February 03, 2023, 08:46:37 PM
:american
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on February 22, 2023, 02:44:29 PM
:lol :lol
Post by: benjipwns on February 23, 2023, 12:07:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6TnAn7qV1s
(https://i.imgur.com/nvp7RKQ.png)
:holeup :kobeyuck
Post by: Nintex on February 25, 2023, 08:39:13 PM
and they tell you cancel culture isn't real.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on February 26, 2023, 04:03:48 AM
https://twitter.com/joshrogin/status/1629646901158064129 (https://twitter.com/joshrogin/status/1629646901158064129)
and they tell you cancel culture isn't real.
Fake news!
We all know Dilbert is being cancelled because the papers think Adams is pro vaccine due to a misleading Ben Garrison cartoon!
Post by: Nintex on February 26, 2023, 06:37:34 AM
Fake news!
We all know Dilbert is being cancelled because the papers think Adams is pro vaccine due to a misleading Ben Garrison cartoon!
Actually
https://twitter.com/monitoringbias/status/1629477508444725251 (https://twitter.com/monitoringbias/status/1629477508444725251)
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1629764614870167552 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1629764614870167552)
:elon
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 26, 2023, 08:15:33 AM
Hopefully this loss of income won't effect his frivolous lawsuit :heh
Post by: Nintex on February 26, 2023, 03:37:29 PM
Post by: Nintex on February 26, 2023, 05:05:49 PM
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on February 28, 2023, 01:27:53 PM
https://twitter.com/yoloswagstudios/status/1629955108590219264 (https://twitter.com/yoloswagstudios/status/1629955108590219264)
Funny, but this is the true canon ending to Dilbert.
https://youtu.be/a6rGUlVvVJ4
Post by: benjipwns on March 05, 2023, 03:29:10 AM
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1632127019956805636
Post by: Nintex on March 12, 2023, 05:16:56 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on March 12, 2023, 05:21:53 PM
Post by: Uncle on March 12, 2023, 07:08:24 PM
deleted tweet link (https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1634679410245681153) (obviously goes nowhere)
a bit :nsfw even with censor bars
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://i.imgur.com/jlckJkS.png)
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Post by: Nintex on March 12, 2023, 07:26:01 PM
:trumps :info
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on March 22, 2023, 07:33:24 PM
:lol
Post by: benjipwns on March 22, 2023, 07:36:40 PM
edit:
https://twitter.com/NatMarshall/status/1638678383163998208
:dead :dead :dead
Post by: BIONIC on March 22, 2023, 08:30:52 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 23, 2023, 10:24:01 AM
Post by: Nintex on March 23, 2023, 08:54:34 PM
Jorp is wank king :preach
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on March 24, 2023, 07:07:58 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FCHDCNvC_NE
:preach
Who needs a next gen switch when you can buy a next gen pillow?
Post by: D3RANG3D on March 24, 2023, 07:26:10 PM
Post by: Nintex on March 25, 2023, 07:41:15 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on March 25, 2023, 09:09:49 PM
Post by: team filler on March 25, 2023, 09:23:03 PM
I should do a break down of what I saw on the lex freidman interview
Post by: Pissy F Benny on March 26, 2023, 07:02:29 AM
It takes him 6 minutes to ask a question
Post by: benjipwns on March 27, 2023, 04:36:19 PM
https://twitter.com/mongo_ebooks/status/1640438989760135168
Post by: Nintex on April 10, 2023, 04:02:54 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/scrowder/status/1645440314734264322 (https://twitter.com/scrowder/status/1645440314734264322)
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:mario :info
Post by: team filler on April 10, 2023, 05:41:07 PM
"they didn't have a trans person voicing Birdo" :fbm
"I always knew mario was anti woke" :trumps
the kids: "I just wanted to see funny mustache guy fight dragon turtle" :walkaway
Post by: Nintex on April 10, 2023, 05:51:57 PM
"Mr Trump what do you think about the Mario movie"
"WHAT DO I THINK ABOUT THE MEXICAN BOOBIES?"
"NO, the Mario movie, wait what? [...]"
Post by: Nintex on April 11, 2023, 06:13:41 PM
Post by: Nintex on April 18, 2023, 03:32:16 PM
:info
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on April 25, 2023, 03:39:57 PM
https://twitter.com/LegendaryEnergy/status/1650915889884311552
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 25, 2023, 04:00:05 PM
Post by: Transhuman on April 25, 2023, 04:56:42 PM
Oof
"It's not my kid's fault, it's not my wife's fault. Don't blame them"
Nobody was blaming them
"I love my wife, I didn't want this to happen" / "I picked wrong"
Sounds like she was the one who thinks she picked wrong
What a psycho.
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 25, 2023, 05:38:40 PM
"It's not my kid's fault, it's not my wife's fault. Don't blame them"
Nobody was blaming them
https://twitter.com/SadiqoJN/status/1070995854272675840
Post by: team filler on April 25, 2023, 09:27:10 PM
also wouldn't trust any kids who would claim him as their father :gaas :walkaway
Post by: benjipwns on April 26, 2023, 05:59:05 AM
https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1650912552489041931
https://twitter.com/natsaystweets/status/1650958518378459136
https://twitter.com/natsaystweets/status/1650985639373058048
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on April 26, 2023, 03:22:36 PM
Post by: Transhuman on April 28, 2023, 12:40:51 AM
:ego
Post by: james on April 28, 2023, 01:21:05 AM
Post by: benjipwns on April 28, 2023, 01:34:23 AM
How long has this thread existedIt's the second one. Etoliate created the original, that's somewhere, to spread the good word of Jordan Peterson even as he refused to read the books, which others did in order to make fun of him.
edit: On second thought, I realized I may be confusing etoliate and Assimilate details. Or this happened twice.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 28, 2023, 05:06:29 AM
Post by: who is ted danson? on April 28, 2023, 04:32:53 PM
:thinking
really makes you think
Post by: benjipwns on April 28, 2023, 05:34:36 PM
Quote
sack-o-matic:hmm
6 hr. ago
The suburbs were literally built for white men to isolate their families so this tracks
Post by: Nintex on April 28, 2023, 06:23:47 PM
Breh
Post by: benjipwns on April 28, 2023, 06:52:48 PM
Probably going to wish he took that multi-million offer from The Daily Wire that he thought was an insult. :doge
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on April 28, 2023, 07:25:39 PM
:rollsafe
Post by: james on May 01, 2023, 08:26:54 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 08, 2023, 09:25:52 PM
Post by: Nintex on May 09, 2023, 12:37:25 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 09, 2023, 12:50:51 PM
Go back to crying about woke people being mean you soy biatch :pacspit
Post by: Nintex on May 09, 2023, 01:17:43 PM
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 09, 2023, 06:47:24 PM
Post by: Nintex on May 10, 2023, 01:17:34 PM
hey it's that guy
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on May 17, 2023, 02:43:07 PM
It’s war!!!
https://twitter.com/scrowder/status/1658666789847326721
Post by: BIONIC on May 17, 2023, 03:02:24 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 17, 2023, 09:17:21 PM
Post by: benjipwns on May 23, 2023, 12:31:49 AM
:dead
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/DavidEvans9/status/1659783238716657666
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Post by: benjipwns on July 30, 2023, 01:51:52 AM
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1684640084585304064
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1684647724933578752
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1684646755286003712
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1684652857021104128
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1685293797700169728
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1685310262872588289
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1685348167481483264
Post by: Nintex on July 30, 2023, 04:27:40 AM
If you look at the reasons for starting the war and the current state of the world I would argue the Axis achieved more of their goals than the Allies did.
Post by: benjipwns on August 03, 2023, 03:12:47 AM
Post by: benjipwns on August 03, 2023, 03:24:53 AM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/Boze_rat/status/1686739039381057536
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Post by: Joe Molotov on August 03, 2023, 01:19:14 PM
https://twitter.com/alittleleader/status/1686563015095697408
Can't believe I'm literally being charged with the murder law of 1492.
Post by: team filler on August 03, 2023, 01:21:41 PM
Post by: Coax on August 04, 2023, 04:37:13 AM
:dead
Post by: benjipwns on August 28, 2023, 02:19:34 PM
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 29, 2023, 10:01:41 AM
Post by: benjipwns on August 29, 2023, 07:55:35 PM
Dinesh "Yung Deezy" D'Souza spent a few months at a white collar resort, so he's an expert on urban culture now.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7RoP1LKMeM
Post by: benjipwns on September 08, 2023, 11:08:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QER1J6v_wQ
Post by: Nintex on September 09, 2023, 07:15:16 AM
Twitter was their Vietnam, they thought they had it after spending so much resources to control it but we went back in, emerged from the shadows and took it back leaving their glowie troll armies shattered, tired and destroyed.
(https://media.tenor.com/4AWsqwdQdhQAAAAC/donald-trump-clap.gif)
Congratulations to all the gamergaters, musk simps, pepes, trumpers, patriots, brave mujahideen fighters, infowarriors, internet comedians, assadists, weebs, memers, cyber warriors and kanye west enjoyers out there fighting for our freedom.
We have won a great battle today but the war is not over yet.
Let's finish the fight.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 09, 2023, 08:20:17 AM
https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1699945245310337136
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QER1J6v_wQ
The tweets seem reasonable????? :wut
Post by: benjipwns on October 12, 2023, 06:58:57 PM
https://twitter.com/Howlingmutant0/status/1712548976615109064
Post by: benjipwns on October 12, 2023, 11:23:03 PM
Post by: team filler on October 21, 2023, 01:57:11 PM
:lol
Post by: benjipwns on October 28, 2023, 04:15:59 AM
Never go full Anne Frank. :ufup
Post by: team filler on October 28, 2023, 04:43:27 AM
the walls were closing in and there were 50 decapitated babies! ;)
Post by: benjipwns on December 09, 2023, 06:43:42 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GA4WR_GbAAAmxQf?format=png&name=900x900)
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