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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Human Snorenado on July 03, 2018, 12:31:31 AM

Title: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 03, 2018, 12:31:31 AM
Ayyyyyyy, this shit's comin out in less than two weeks. If you have a Switch (and I think you get issued one with forum membership) then you should get it. If you've been living under a rock it's a Squeenix game in olde timey style but with pretty gorgeous graphics done by some (all?) of the people that worked on the Bravely games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCaXSxYrrWM

There's a demo on the eshop, progress carries over once you get the full game. I'm going to try to play through as many of the characters as I can, right now I'm right at an hour and 20 minutes and have gone: Ophilia to Cyrus to Tressa and we just got to Olberic. I would start with either Ophilia or Cyrus as once you get Cyrus to his second skill his first passive unlock will reduce your random encounter rate and you can run around without getting in as many battles, which will let you get further in the demo. GOTTA COLLECT EM ALL.

SERIOUSLY BUY THIS GAME THE BATTLE SYSTEM IS DOPE, THE PRESENTATION IS GREAT, EVEN THE MUSIC IS GOOD YOU PIECE OF SHIT JUST DO IT

Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: bluemax on July 03, 2018, 01:11:44 AM
I started the Hunter scenario in the demo the other night. Everyone talked funny and enemies take a lot of damage to kill and hit kinda hard.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 03, 2018, 01:52:56 AM
I started the Hunter scenario in the demo the other night. Everyone talked funny and enemies take a lot of damage to kill and hit kinda hard.

You gotta be sure you're hitting enemies with attacks they're weak to, breaking them, then boosting for shit tons of damage.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Corporal on July 03, 2018, 02:52:20 AM
Can't wait. It's one of like five games I have ever preordered (because preordering is stupid). The locked file is sitting on my switch, tempting me. I kinda don't even want to start the second demo because the first demo was good enough and I know I'm just gonna get pissed when I hit the three hour limit.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Fifstar on July 03, 2018, 04:28:58 AM
Played the first demo and liked it. Will get the full game when it's out.

Cool Chars and excellent Music. I'm not completly sold on the art style though. I like the idea of 16 Bit style mixed with the Diorama presentation, but I feel they didn't quite pull it off. I think the game sprites should be in a "higher" resolution" and some of the modern effects could be a bit reduced. Probably too expensive and it stills Looks interesting, just not as good as it could.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: archnemesis on July 03, 2018, 06:57:12 AM
I enjoyed both demos and I'm getting this day one. I doubt I can juggle two RPGs so that means I have to put Strange Journey Redux on hold while I'm playing this instead.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 03, 2018, 09:56:03 AM
Switch wins again. :rejoice
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: demi on July 03, 2018, 10:10:01 AM
im hoping its not dogshit like Xenoblade 2 but so far things are looking so good right now
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 03, 2018, 11:04:47 AM
Can't wait. It's one of like five games I have ever preordered (because preordering is stupid). The locked file is sitting on my switch, tempting me. I kinda don't even want to start the second demo because the first demo was good enough and I know I'm just gonna get pissed when I hit the three hour limit.

The only reasons to preorder anything are 1) You have Amazon Prime (you get 20% off on new titles if you preorder through Amazon and they have release day delivery for Prime members) or 2) it's a rare game which pretty much doesn't happen now that you can just get everything digitally (but then you miss out on flipping it later)
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 03, 2018, 01:18:06 PM
I was able to get through 6 of the prologues by skipping cut scenes and running everywhere, got to the 7th town where the thief is with 3 minutes until the demo times out. I'm pretty sure I could cut another 10-15 minutes off that but the biggest time sinks end up being the boss fights, especially once you have a full party because they take longer to kill (difficulty scaling) so I don't think it's worth it to try again, I'll just let that stand.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Corporal on July 03, 2018, 01:19:47 PM
Can't wait. It's one of like five games I have ever preordered (because preordering is stupid). The locked file is sitting on my switch, tempting me. I kinda don't even want to start the second demo because the first demo was good enough and I know I'm just gonna get pissed when I hit the three hour limit.

The only reasons to preorder anything are 1) You have Amazon Prime (you get 20% off on new titles if you preorder through Amazon and they have release day delivery for Prime members) or 2) it's a rare game which pretty much doesn't happen now that you can just get everything digitally (but then you miss out on flipping it later)
Giving businesses an interest-free advance on vague promises and bought previews is stupid, no matter what fancy words you use. :smug

Also, lies. Filthy lies. Amazon.de only gives me 2€ off for preordering, and that's the only Prime members exclusive bonus. Fuckers disrespecting mah natural born right to superiority. Who needs 2€, that's chump change, 20% off is a tangible benefit. I'd consider giving out a loan at that rate. :'(

(https://abload.de/img/fuckyouamazonaysva.png)
(wasn't logged in because lazy, unlocking my password manager for a screenshot is overkill)
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 03, 2018, 03:02:26 PM
Oh I'm sorry, I didn't know that you don't live in a country that's great again.

:trumps
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Rufus on July 03, 2018, 04:43:55 PM
Amazon is going to quit lavishing you with amazing discounts as soon as they've completely destroyed retail. :hitler
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Corporal on July 03, 2018, 04:55:22 PM
(grinds teeth in Bavarian)
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: bork on July 03, 2018, 05:23:33 PM
Oh I'm sorry, I didn't know that you don't live in a country that's great again.

:trumps

LOL YUROP.  Sucks for him- I pre-ordered the game for that sweet 20% discount with free release-day delivery.
 :aah
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 03, 2018, 05:33:40 PM
Oh I'm sorry, I didn't know that you don't live in a country that's great again.

:trumps

LOL YUROP.  Sucks for him- I pre-ordered the game for that sweet 20% discount with free release-day delivery.
 :aah

:rejoice
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: agrajag on July 03, 2018, 05:33:57 PM
I'm not really an RPG player, but I played the demo with Oderic, and can someone tell me if there's something I'm missing about the battle system? I just spammed boost whenever I could and the game also tells you which weapon the enemies are weak against, making it really easy?
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 03, 2018, 05:43:31 PM
I'm not really an RPG player, but I played the demo with Oderic, and can someone tell me if there's something I'm missing about the battle system? I just spammed boost whenever I could and the game also tells you which weapon the enemies are weak against, making it really easy?

In the final game you're not told who is weak to what, also you'll get into big battles with lots of different enemies that are vulnerable to different stuff which makes breaking them harder.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: agrajag on July 03, 2018, 05:58:08 PM
I'm not really an RPG player, but I played the demo with Oderic, and can someone tell me if there's something I'm missing about the battle system? I just spammed boost whenever I could and the game also tells you which weapon the enemies are weak against, making it really easy?

In the final game you're not told who is weak to what, also you'll get into big battles with lots of different enemies that are vulnerable to different stuff which makes breaking them harder.

Ah, I did not know that. Good to know. Nice game, kind of reminded me of FF6, but the visuals are hit or miss for me, dialogue can be pretty bad, and there are too many static NPC's that you can't even talked to. I'll probably pick it up.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: TakingBackSunday on July 03, 2018, 09:35:32 PM
This game is going to be tits.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: bluemax on July 04, 2018, 12:17:58 AM
I started the Hunter scenario in the demo the other night. Everyone talked funny and enemies take a lot of damage to kill and hit kinda hard.

You gotta be sure you're hitting enemies with attacks they're weak to, breaking them, then boosting for shit tons of damage.

I was doing that, and even boosting, I even bought better weapons! Taking multiple rounds to beat early game trash mobs has me wary is all.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 04, 2018, 12:59:05 AM
GUESS UR JUST NOT HARDCORE ENOUGH BRO

One thing I didn't mention is that after playing through all the prologues, the characters are by and large a nice light hearted departure from typical rpg tropes (of course watch that change as the story progresses). Ophilia just wants to help her family and be a good cleric, Cyrus is a dedicated academic with no time for vag, Tressa just wants to be a badass merchant, Therion is a daring thief, and Alfyn wants to help people with his mad apothecary skillz, and, uh, oh yeah, Olberic and Primrose.

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Olberic is pretty obviously just your stereotypical warrior type with his backstory, but Primrose is glaringly out of place. "Hello pure hearted cleric, absent minded professor, and bright eyed merchant, I watched my father get murdered as a child and then ended up whoring myself out as a teenager, got room for me in your happy go lucky adventuring party???" :doge
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Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 04, 2018, 03:12:23 PM
I started the Hunter scenario in the demo the other night. Everyone talked funny and enemies take a lot of damage to kill and hit kinda hard.

You gotta be sure you're hitting enemies with attacks they're weak to, breaking them, then boosting for shit tons of damage.

I was doing that, and even boosting, I even bought better weapons! Taking multiple rounds to beat early game trash mobs has me wary is all.

Same here, if already early its a grind then doing it for 60 hours would be boring
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 06, 2018, 08:11:19 PM
You people are terrible and the reason why gaming is all bullshit microtransaction multiplayer shitfests in this blighted year of our lord, 2018. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your souls.

On topic, lunatics have been speedrunning the demo and are recording 40ish minute runthroughs of all 8 prologues. This one the guy gets a Cait (enemy that gives a shit ton of experience and job points) really early so it's skewed but still awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gQaWjBltVk&t

Same guy but no Cait, but SHAVES TIME OFF BECAUSE HE'S A MANIAC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAAwfweeL8M
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Kara on July 06, 2018, 10:30:44 PM
I played Live A Live / Seiken Densetsu 3 too.

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That Uncharted Waters plot tho. :whew
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Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: agrajag on July 07, 2018, 12:01:27 AM
people on Reee are freaking out because it's not like FF6 enough
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 07, 2018, 12:02:38 AM
people on Reee are freaking out

u don't say
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: tiesto on July 07, 2018, 10:05:35 AM
Just a heads up, the Wayfarer's Edition is back in stock at Amazon... I made some not so subtle hints to my gf that my birthday is coming up and this is back in stock...

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BC326XK?th=1
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 07, 2018, 11:05:23 AM
people on Reee are freaking out because it's not like FF6 enough

It's clearly meant to be more like Square's lesser-known 16/32-bit RPGs, like Live-a-Live and Saga Frontier, so I dunno what they're problem is.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: agrajag on July 07, 2018, 12:18:24 PM
people on Reee are freaking out because it's not like FF6 enough

It's clearly meant to be more like Square's lesser-known 16/32-bit RPGs, like Live-a-Live and Saga Frontier, so I dunno what they're problem is.

The producer said he meant for it to be a spiritual successor to FF6. Of course them being an autists that they are, there is now a 30 page thread arguing about that throwaway line in an interview and losing their minds at the prospect of it not living up to the ridiculous hype they built around it.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 07, 2018, 01:09:40 PM
There are a couple previews that all have the same two complaints floating around out there now:

1) having to play through 8 intro stories is repetitive (a legit complaint)
2) oh the noes are cute lil sprite dudes don't interact what about TEH STORYZ??? (a complaint made by overly sensitive beta cucklords)

SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU'RE BEING GIVEN A 100+ HOUR GAME WITH INCREDIBLE COMBAT YOU STUPID ASSHOLES, GOD I SWEAR I HATE GAMERS SO FUCKING MUCH
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: BlueTsunami on July 07, 2018, 01:14:28 PM
There seems to be an obvious media blackout of the game after the initial intro chapters. I'm curious how it all comes together.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: paprikastaude on July 07, 2018, 01:33:44 PM
A bunch of adventurers actively ignoring each other for 100 hours sounds hilariously stupid. Though any normal gamer who finds that dumb would simply move on to any other of the gazillion JRPGs we get currently. I guess REE really needed this to be a new FF6 to keep their switch boner alive, especially after they already had meltdowns over Mario Tennis being mediocre and there not being too much other list war fuel this year to begin with.  :doge
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: BlueTsunami on July 07, 2018, 01:41:56 PM
Just play DQXI on the superior PS4 console if a multithreaded narrative bothers ya you fuckmooks
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: tiesto on July 07, 2018, 04:56:01 PM
people on Reee are freaking out because it's not like FF6 enough

It's clearly meant to be more like Square's lesser-known 16/32-bit RPGs, like Live-a-Live and Saga Frontier, so I dunno what they're problem is.

I've always thought this was the Romancing SaGa 3 to Bravely Default's FF5...
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: BlueTsunami on July 07, 2018, 06:24:16 PM
The pixel art literally looks like SaGa Frontier 2 but with the multithreaded narrative of SaGa Frontier 1. The SaGa games have always fascinated me but meeting in the middle with a more traditional system along with aspects that makes SaGa feel fresh is whats so exciting about this.

Edit: Damn I forgot what SaGa Frontier 2 looks like. It aged well
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Rahxephon91 on July 07, 2018, 06:39:45 PM
This being more of a Saga game is why I’ve been somewhat cautious. Don’t know how anyone thought Final Fantasy from this.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 07, 2018, 08:40:37 PM
Got through all 8 prologues in a little over an hour, guess it's time to grind and steal everything possible.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 07, 2018, 09:54:12 PM
Got through all 8 prologues in a little over an hour, guess it's time to grind and steal everything possible.

He did it, the absolute madman. :rejoice
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 08, 2018, 12:48:17 PM
Honestly after watching a couple demo speedruns it's not hard, you just have to follow very predictable boss scripts that almost all involve breaking the boss and then using M (in one case an L) soulstones or a 4x boost Tressa hired help, usually Clerics. From what I can tell, fight all random encounters if you can win them in a round or two tops until you have Cyrus's evasive manuevers or whatever support skill that decreases random encounters, then always run from them after that. The trickiest part is knowing which chests to bother with- there are 2, maybe 3 old coins you need to get in order to fuel Tressa's hired help usage (Clerics cost 10k per pop and this is early in the game so you gotta make em count) and you will need to use vendors a total of two times: once to buy Cyrus a quartz staff right in the beginning so his elemental attacks hit harder and once after Primrose's boss fight to sell off all your old coins and the coin purse he drops to fuel Tressa inspired shenanigans.

Game is dope, can't wait. Sadly I'm out of town this weekend so I'll have to wait until next Sunday night to really dive into the game.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: bluemax on July 12, 2018, 02:52:21 AM
The pixel art literally looks like SaGa Frontier 2 but with the multithreaded narrative of SaGa Frontier 1. The SaGa games have always fascinated me but meeting in the middle with a more traditional system along with aspects that makes SaGa feel fresh is whats so exciting about this.

Edit: Damn I forgot what SaGa Frontier 2 looks like. It aged well

I love SaGa games for how different they are, but I think most of them could benefit from being balanced/bug fixed/less obtuse.

Octopath does seem to do a better job of gleaning good elements from SaGa then say, Legend of Legacy.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 12, 2018, 02:11:26 PM
For whatever it's worth to you (which should be nothing but some of y'all are simple creatures, whatever) the reviews are coming in and are overwhelmingly positive.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/octopath-traveler/critic-reviews
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: demi on July 12, 2018, 06:31:18 PM
my dicc is so thicc for octopussy smasher
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: team filler on July 12, 2018, 06:36:16 PM
need ahegao emoticon, pls add
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: kingv on July 12, 2018, 06:36:46 PM
I just read in a review that you can play it in a way that you meet everybody up and party... or not?

That’s impressive if true.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: bork on July 12, 2018, 07:56:34 PM
need ahegao emoticon, pls add
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Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 12, 2018, 08:41:19 PM
need ahegao emoticon, pls add

:mouf
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: BlueTsunami on July 12, 2018, 10:11:20 PM
My niccas, I'm here contemplating buying a Switch just for the possibility of capturing some sense of JRPG nostalgia. I feel like I have emotional aids.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 12, 2018, 11:41:44 PM
My niccas, I'm here contemplating buying a Switch just for the possibility of capturing some sense of JRPG nostalgia. I feel like I have emotional aids.

I mean, I can't help you. I essentially bought one for a new Fire Emblem, so.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Corporal on July 13, 2018, 09:51:05 AM
It's a Nintendo console. If you're only buying it for one game and not for Nintendo games PLUS that one game then you're gonna feel stupid.

I am contractually obligated to add:
:phil Do eeet.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 13, 2018, 09:58:57 AM
Why does UPS have to deliver so late in the day? :stahp
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: bork on July 13, 2018, 10:05:36 AM
Why does UPS have to deliver so late in the day? :stahp

Mine's coming from AMZL, which means it should come in an hour or two :hyper

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Or come at 7:00 PM
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Or not come at all
 :goty2
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Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: demi on July 13, 2018, 01:39:23 PM
i bought it should i cum now or later
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Corporal on July 13, 2018, 03:14:07 PM
Only cumming once like some filthy casual.  :lol

Before, during, after, and several times inbetween. Anything less is an insult. Wring those gonads dry.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 13, 2018, 10:08:32 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/o6OOwSj.jpg)
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: BlueTsunami on July 13, 2018, 10:14:12 PM
Cant believe people call that ugly. I want ALL the JRPG classic to be blessed by this engine and post processing.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: agrajag on July 14, 2018, 02:21:59 AM
I think it's kind of ugly. At least parts of it. Games like that shouldn't use the Unreal engine. Give me ultra crisp, detailed fully 2D graphics, please. There's something jarring about it.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Fifstar on July 14, 2018, 05:43:37 AM
The aliased sprites and textures look kinda weird on their own and clash with the blurred out backgrounds. I feel there is a great artstyle somewhere below all those effects, but the game doesn't quite pull it off.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: BlueTsunami on July 14, 2018, 05:55:11 AM
I dig the mixture. It feels way more like a diorama of a retro JRPG with the pixelated sprites. I feel if they brought the pixel work up a generation in style it would lose its charm. I do have a problem with the tile texture work. Now that can be an eyesore at times.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: bork on July 14, 2018, 10:21:23 AM
I think it's kind of ugly.

(https://i.imgur.com/o6OOwSj.jpg)

:idont
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: agrajag on July 14, 2018, 10:44:00 AM
Yeah, you're proving my point bark. Pretty colors but jarring and washed out like an n64 game.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 14, 2018, 12:05:20 PM
I'm currently working my way through the prologue chapters [started with H'aanit, then moved clockwise around the northern half of the map]. Got a full party of four so far and I'll probably get the other four before I start doing chapter 2 stuff.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Freyj on July 14, 2018, 12:44:33 PM
So you want to play all the prologues? I haven’t really played / looked into this much since the initial demo.

The first few seconds of the battle music sounding like Stage of Death from Xenogears is evoking some feels.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 14, 2018, 03:54:52 PM
I'm currently working my way through the prologue chapters [started with H'aanit, then moved clockwise around the northern half of the map]. Got a full party of four so far and I'll probably get the other four before I start doing chapter 2 stuff.

You didn't minmax the demo? DOG PLZ

:jeanluc
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Freyj on July 14, 2018, 04:38:09 PM
Making your way around the prologues is kind of a bad introduction but this is a JRPG.

:yeshrug
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 14, 2018, 07:11:56 PM
I'm currently working my way through the prologue chapters [started with H'aanit, then moved clockwise around the northern half of the map]. Got a full party of four so far and I'll probably get the other four before I start doing chapter 2 stuff.

You didn't minmax the demo? DOG PLZ

:jeanluc

I only played through one of the prologues in the demo, didn't want to really get into it only to have to put it away for a few weeks.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 14, 2018, 09:02:02 PM
Ophilia
Cyrus
Therion
Olberic
Primrose
Alfyn
Tressa
H'aanit

:ohhh
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 14, 2018, 09:07:07 PM
Ophilia
Cyrus
Therion
Olberic
Primrose
Alfyn
Tressa
H'aanit

:ohhh

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/Z8uqXqZaNT4n6/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: kingv on July 14, 2018, 10:11:48 PM
Arm
Leg
Leg
Arm
Head
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: kingv on July 15, 2018, 01:15:04 AM
Sounds like it basically sold out in Japan. Squenix is apologizing for its lack of availability.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: agrajag on July 15, 2018, 01:32:54 AM
numero uno on eshop
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: demi on July 15, 2018, 01:37:59 PM
Jason Schrieer thinks this game is dogshit. Should I get a refund?
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Freyj on July 15, 2018, 01:47:55 PM
Iono about this one.

The presentation and music is top notch but it’s hitting pretty much everything I hate about modern JRPGs.

Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Freyj on July 15, 2018, 01:51:09 PM
Jason Schrieer thinks this game is dogshit. Should I get a refund?

https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1017399653631971329

Literally told a friend this exact thing yesterday.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Tuckers Law on July 15, 2018, 02:41:56 PM
Yeah but Jason Schreir is a massive tool.  Anonymous forum posters hold more weight on opinions than he does.

"It's crushing to have to share this."  No it isn't, you fucking live for stirring the pot.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Freyj on July 15, 2018, 03:04:07 PM
I don’t really care all I know is what he has to say about the game lines up with my experience so far.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Tuckers Law on July 15, 2018, 03:32:05 PM
That's too bad, sucks when looking forward to a game you play it and find that it doesn't gel with you.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 16, 2018, 04:28:06 PM
Did all the prologues but I'm still underleveled for chapter 2 of my main [H'aanit], dunno if I want to do a little grinding/exploring or go on to one of the lower-level chapter 2s instead.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 16, 2018, 08:50:51 PM
I'd recommend grinding in a lv 15 side area/dungeon in the ch 1 areas. If you have any M soul stones and run into a Cait, toss that fucker and you'll go up 2-3 levels
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 16, 2018, 10:08:40 PM
High-level battles are so freaking hard if you don't have Ophilia [the healer] in your party. I've also been feeling it not having Cyrus in my party; automatically unlocking one weakness for each enemy at the start of a battle is such a huge advantage, not to mention the elemental spells that hit every enemy [and most enemies have at least one elemental weakness]. Some party combination just don't work early on, but unlocking second jobs is helping in that regard. So far I've only found two, though; need to get some more for more party flexibility.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: bluemax on July 17, 2018, 12:04:17 AM
The visual stuff is kinda cool, but I hate how some areas have you navigating blindly because a tree blocks your entire fucking screen. Also I realized that dashing increases encounter rate :(
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Bulleta©™® on July 17, 2018, 06:21:46 AM
I've heard this game compared to the Romancing Saga games, but I didn't get far in the remake of RS1.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 18, 2018, 08:03:49 PM
You can steal (3% chance) a staff in Alfyn's Ch 2 town that has +300 elemental attack and at least for now kinda trivializes the game :doge
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 20, 2018, 01:56:40 AM
First chapter 2 I did was Primrose, fought against the boss for 45 minutes only to die right near the end of the battle for a really stupid reason. It made me so mad that I went a grinded levels for a couple hours [also mixed up my party a bit] and blew the boss away. Now I'm moving on to the other chapter 2s and it's pretty clear that I'm quite a bit over-leveled now. :lol
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: bluemax on July 20, 2018, 03:04:25 AM
My first wipe was the first boss I faced with 4 party members. I had one member below recommended level and now status healing items.

Going up a few levels and getting a couple of better pieces of equipment helped. I still feel like the average fight takes too long and that the amount of money you earn is awful.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 20, 2018, 01:16:24 PM
Have you guys gotten all of the secondary job shrines yet? Once you unlock all the secondary jobs the game becomes much easier.

I'm done with 3 Chapter 3's (Alfyn, Olberic, Tressa) at about 23 hours in and I've kept everyone rotating pretty well so everyone is about at the level they need to be. Of course I went ham on the demo and everyone was about lv 20 after those 3 hours, so, uh. Yeah. (I also have save-scummed stealing opportunities for the really powerful items)

I think the ideal party make-up is probably Cyrus with secondary either Merchant, Dancer, or Cleric, and either Primrose or Ophilia with secondary job of Scholar. Having two people spamming the multi-hit scholar elemental spells is OP, and you can unlock passive skills in Merchant and Dancer that halve the SP cost of everything and refund SP each turn respectively. In a vacuum the next best party members are Haanit and Olberic with probably Warrior and Apothecary secondary jobs, respectively, but really as you're going through each chapter you can sub in whoever needs leveling along with the character whose chapter it is as long as you make sure you've got access to stuff like a good range of weapons on those two characters to help break shit. Warrior and Hunter are good classes because they have weapon based attacks that can hit multiple enemies.

The hardest boss fight I've had so far is Alfyn's Ch 3 boss.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Dude gets two attacks per turn and rotates his weaknesses between 3 different sets of weaknesses each time you break him. He also has an attack that hits the whole party that he uses regularly. Had to use multiple olives to revive people, probably didn't help that Cyrus and Ophilia were geared to be glass cannons of offense with very few concessions made to physical defense. :doge
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Game continues to own. Haven't really even done any side quests or exploring too much.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 23, 2018, 11:44:40 AM
...Ophilia's Ch 4 boss fights dirty

:fbm
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 23, 2018, 12:42:35 PM
Cheese the game with this broken-ass NPC:

https://kotaku.com/octopath-travelers-best-npc-is-this-reclusive-old-man-1827803634
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 23, 2018, 11:13:50 PM
Took down Ophilia's Ch 4 boss much easier this time.

I also beat 2 of the 4 secret extra job bosses

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The Starseer and Sorcerer are heavily susceptible to cheese due to the fact that they only use magical attacks. If in your party you have a combo of cleric and dancer on different characters (but preferably across 3- I had Primrose as Dancer/Cleric, Cyrus as Scholar/Dancer, and Ophilia as Cleric/Scholar) you can set it up to where you've used both the divine Dancer AND Cleric skills on a cleric, then cast reflect. The divine dancer skill will apply it to everyone, the divine cleric skill will make you cast it twice. Fully boosted, you'll shit out 8 reflect shields on everyone. Both bosses will cast spells that hit everyone 3 times- that will burn 3 shields off everyone and reflect back 12 times, nuking themselves. You can just use the divine dancer skill and get 4 reflect shields, but ehhhhh. Might as well go ham.

Now Cyrus is a machine gunning death machine that can hit a weakness 3 times per turn.
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Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: demi on July 25, 2018, 08:52:58 AM
So is there an overall theme to the game, or anything to tie it all together? So far I'm just going around in a circle grabbing all the characters and doing their stories.

Then they're like "oh you want to join!? cool!" and then thats it

Feels very aimless. No direction

I would even accept "wow what a coincidence, this bad guy i'm chasing is totally related to your story SOMEHOW!"
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 25, 2018, 09:54:51 AM
The real story is the journey you go on along the way, demi
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: demi on July 25, 2018, 12:30:46 PM
Thats not gonna fly unfortunately - game needs more power of friendship
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: kingv on July 25, 2018, 12:42:37 PM
I can’t figure out if I should want to play this or not.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 25, 2018, 02:22:14 PM
I can’t figure out if I should want to play this or not.

I mean, if you like old 16-32 bit era jrpgs then yes, you should. I'm about 40 hours in and 3/8 of the way done with everyone's final chapters, not counting any endgame shit I decide to do. (I've also unlocked all 4 secret jobs by beating some optional bosses.)

Things some people dislike about the game, some of which I recognize as valid criticisms but haven't really detracted from my enjoyment:

-Chapter 1 is very disjointed. It's basically 8 intros over and over again.
-There's not a lot of interaction with your party members. There's some optional 1 on 1 (and later 3 member in chapter 4) banter sessions you can listen to but it's all very light, fluffy stuff.
-OH NOES RANDOM ENCOUNTERS

Having said that:

1. You can speedrun through all of everyone's Chapter 1's in like an hour if you don't give a shit about the stories
2. Stories in games are dumb, who cares, your characters are collections of numbers and abilities, quit being an asshole
3. Very early on in the game you'll get a skill that will halve (at least) the random encounter rate

If you PERSIST in caring about stories in your weeb vidya, I will say that at the very least everyone's INDIVIDUAL stories are well done. There's definable arcs throughout the chapters, good characterization, etc etc. There does not seem to be a grand overarcing plot where it's all interconnected, tho, so if you want that go watch anime and play with yourself.

Things this game does well:
-old fashioned turn based combat
-job system
-pretty sprites
-solid 40+ hours of gameplay

If that's not enough for you, this game ain't for you. No worries, there's plenty of games, play something you know you'll like. (demi should just shut up, he plays everything and has no taste)

It's probably a solid B, 8/10, 80% ish kinda game. But it does something that doesn't get done much anymore.

:yeshrug
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: archie4208 on July 25, 2018, 02:30:26 PM
Completed two stories so far.  Ophelia's went from meh to awesome and Primrose went the exact other way.  :lol

The game has its flaws, but it does a good job at what it sets out to do.  :yeshrug
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: agrajag on July 25, 2018, 02:36:11 PM
I think the whole 8 separate stories was a flawed concept from the start, and somewhere along the development cycle they realized that.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: archie4208 on July 25, 2018, 02:42:49 PM
You could possibly tie all 8 stories together, but it probably is a logistical nightmare as there would likely be hundreds of variables to account for in terms of party composition and individual story progress.  I doubt this game has near the budget for that.  I went in expecting 8 short stories and I'm satisfied with that.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: bluemax on July 26, 2018, 04:53:48 AM
Cheese the game with this broken-ass NPC:

https://kotaku.com/octopath-travelers-best-npc-is-this-reclusive-old-man-1827803634

6% recruitment rate at my current levels. I ain't about to save scum that much.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 26, 2018, 10:05:08 AM
Cheese the game with this broken-ass NPC:

https://kotaku.com/octopath-travelers-best-npc-is-this-reclusive-old-man-1827803634

6% recruitment rate at my current levels. I ain't about to save scum that much.

I've save scummed all the good 3% steal equipment, I'm really starting to doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion breh
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: bluemax on July 26, 2018, 11:42:00 PM
Cheese the game with this broken-ass NPC:

https://kotaku.com/octopath-travelers-best-npc-is-this-reclusive-old-man-1827803634

6% recruitment rate at my current levels. I ain't about to save scum that much.

I've save scummed all the good 3% steal equipment, I'm really starting to doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion breh

I dunno, I find 80% steals obnoxious enough, how many attempts on average is a 3%? I think I left everything below 55% unstolen in all the towns I've been to so far.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 27, 2018, 01:00:21 AM
It's not bad if you leave any 3% or whatever for the last thing you want to steal and have 5 chances. Then, just save, burn them all, reload if unsuccessful.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: demi on July 28, 2018, 10:53:09 PM
This is probably my biggest disappointment of 2018. Unfortunate, back to Vita I guess
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Himu on July 29, 2018, 10:59:15 PM
This looks surprisingly good. Looks like a mix of Romancing SaGa and Tactics Ogre.

Looks like the  experimental type of jrpg the genre stopped doing until last generation.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Himu on July 29, 2018, 11:00:22 PM
Hilarious seeing Snore have a Switch but not surprised. Don’t have a Switch yet.

Hmm. Seems some of you are disappointed? Not gonna lie. I have no expectations here. Acquire doesn’t exactly have the pedigree nor name tied to Jrpgs. I think acquire and I think Tenchu. So I have zero expectations and I’m interested based on the premise. If it’s a c game that’s fine. And it isn’t like every jrpg people hype these days is some flawed mess of a game (persona 5, setsuna, bravely, ff15;etc) so :idont Jrpg fans have low standards these days so their hype should always be taken with the tiniest grain of salt. Always.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: demi on July 29, 2018, 11:57:04 PM
All those games are better than this though
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Himu on July 30, 2018, 12:59:29 AM
Really? :heh

Like I said. Will give it a chance when I get a Switch tho.

Can’t remember the last time I played a jrpg that was above  C tier. Old jrpgs don’t count. Probably SMT4.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 30, 2018, 02:58:50 AM
You're not gonna like it cause you don't like anything anymore. Trust me, I'm much the same way so I know. I bought a switch as soon as they announced Fire Emblem Three Houses at E3.

Endgame spoilers:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
There *IS* an overarcing connection to all the traveler's tales: a "true evil" baddie working to revive a fallen god, blah blah blah here have some more jrpg tropes thrown in, fight a gauntlet of 8 bosses from chapters 3 & 4, then have a 2 stage final boss fight where you have to use all 8 travelers in 2 separate parties,
 oh also there's no save point in the final dungeon so when you get to the final boss's second stage and he destroys you, plz start over again and fight all 8 bosses again you scrub
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Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: archnemesis on July 30, 2018, 03:25:50 AM
I’m only halfway through the second chapters, but so far I like it a lot more than the other three JRPGs I played on Switch (I am Setsuna, Lost Sphear, Xenoblade Chronicles 2).
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: demi on July 30, 2018, 07:17:14 AM
I read anout that end spoiler too. Nah I'm good on that
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: bluemax on July 30, 2018, 11:18:42 PM
It seems like maybe the game wants you to find the sub jobs before doing anyone's chapter 2 stories? At least given the jump in recommended levels vs where I was after completing all of Chapter 1s. I think most of my characters outside my main were level 12-15 and the lowest recommended chapter level was 21. Did a bunch of grinding and save scumming to go get the 8 sub jobs and even still most of my characters are sub 20 still. I finished Primrose's chapter 2.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
So far Primrose's chapters have had the "best" lines.

"Go pleasure yourself master!"

"Primrose, I am a whore!"
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I feel like this game has a lot of weird balance issues, not just in combat.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 30, 2018, 11:58:08 PM
There's definitely a gap between the end of everyone's Ch 1 and beginning of Ch 2, and it seems to be the only part where you really need to spend time grinding (unless you're going to tackle optional end game content) which is weird. As far as the secondary job shrines go, I ran around and ran from all the fights and unlocked everyone's Ch 2 towns and the shrines. I was appropriately leveled because I spent about half the demo grinding.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: archnemesis on July 31, 2018, 09:50:03 AM
I beat the second chapters without grinding by keeping my three strongest characters in the party and rotating the fourth spot. The first boss was really tough. I had to upgrade most of my gear and use a silly amount of mana potions. The second boss was also quite challenging. Then the spike flattened out. I expect another similar spike when I reach chapter 3.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 31, 2018, 02:28:26 PM
I haven't really had to grind much at all following the jump from the last prologue to the first chapter 2, just a little bit here and there because certain characters were a little under-leveled. It's fairly easy to get over-leveled, too.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 01, 2018, 03:58:56 PM
Also: once you complete everyone's chapter 4, you get the option to take your first character out of the main party and go with any 4 you like.

Probably gonna try to beat the super secret ultra final mega last boss again tonight.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: PogiJones on August 02, 2018, 07:00:11 AM
Geez, I knew there was a secret last boss, but I didn't spoil myself on anything about him. So I was... unprepared.

I figured if I just put together my strongest party, I'd be able to handle it.

Needless to say, the second party that I'd stripped off all the best equipment to feed my main party did not fare well naked.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: bluemax on August 14, 2018, 02:52:33 AM
Got waxed by a chapter 2 boss, so I wandered the world doing the side dungeons and robbing towns. Characters except main went from low 20s to mid 20s and I bought some chapter 3 tier weapons which made the previously tough boss much easier. Sadly I've been swamped by work and I haven't done any more of this.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 14, 2018, 03:23:08 AM
Hilarious seeing Snore have a Switch but not surprised. Don’t have a Switch yet.

Hmm. Seems some of you are disappointed? Not gonna lie. I have no expectations here. Acquire doesn’t exactly have the pedigree nor name tied to Jrpgs. I think acquire and I think Tenchu. So I have zero expectations and I’m interested based on the premise. If it’s a c game that’s fine. And it isn’t like every jrpg people hype these days is some flawed mess of a game (persona 5, setsuna, bravely, ff15;etc) so :idont Jrpg fans have low standards these days so their hype should always be taken with the tiniest grain of salt. Always.
Don't really agree with this. To say they are messes of games and that JRPG fans have low standards is kinda shitty. Especially since JRPGS have been pretty good this gen. It's nothing like the PS3 gen were Tales and lower crap like whatever Idea Factory makes was given extra attention because of the lack of good jrpgs. Hell, even Tales itself is a bit better. Persona 5 is a great game, not a mess. FFXV is not a mess, it's a pretty well realized and unique JRPG. You say ect, but things like Tales of Beseria, NNK2, DQ11, Nier, and so on aren't bad at all. JRPGS have been pretty good.

That said, I've found Octopath kind of boring. Unlike Persona 5 were the repetitive structure has a point and ties into you setting up a routine to go about your day. Octopath is just straight up a repetitive drag.
Title: Re: Octopath Traveler Thread of HD SPRITES and old school rpg goodness
Post by: tiesto on October 18, 2018, 09:43:01 PM
Yeah so just about finished, have a few more side quests to do then it's off to grind for the TRUE FINAL BATTLE.

Overall, I thought it was pretty great, even if the dungeon design could use a bit more variety (like puzzles, different environmental hazards, scripted events, etc), and the structure got to be repetitive after a while.

My favorite thing about the game, apart from the amazing visuals and pleasant music, was how it really felt like an RPG made specifically those who grew up with the NES and SNES games, and are now much older with much less time to play a game. Most of the chapters took less than 2 hours, which made it seem like the type of game best played in short bursts, befitting a busier lifestyle. There wasn't much in the way of animu type hijinks here (except maybeeee Tressa's personality), mostly the stories are revenge driven, or more personal type quests.

Favorite character in battle was Alfyn after being made Warmaster. Best story I thought was Alfyn, worst was Tressa.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Come on... "the REAL treasure was your travels along the way!" is the dumbest shit ever, plus the character was pretty useless in combat and had an annoying VA
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