Huh, being sold at Gamestop and Wal-mart.
Fall on the sword for us and tell us how it is, if it's decent enough, I might splurge on one for a parent gift.
yaya ok JWong. :esports
My wife would murder me, but...it seems like for not a lot more one could do a whole lot better?
I feel like we are seeing bork giving in to buy one in real time here. :doge
I feel like we are seeing bork giving in to buy one in real time here. :doge
299 is a pretty good deal though. :whew
Is it worth it getting my gf mad though? :thinking
Why is it so small? Like I’m totally cool on the idea, but why not make it 1:1 arcade machine height? Unless that is 1:1 and arcade machines always looked taller as a kid, hmmmmmm
I feel like at that price, the hardware is guaranteed to be low quality especially the sticks and buttons.
I feel like at that price, the hardware is guaranteed to be low quality especially the sticks and buttons.
Zomgee annihilated. :noah
All that hard work restoring cabs wasted. ;)
Why is it so small? Like I’m totally cool on the idea, but why not make it 1:1 arcade machine height? Unless that is 1:1 and arcade machines always looked taller as a kid, hmmmmmm
This literal arcade table features Street Fighter 2: Championship Edition, Super Street Fighter 2 and Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo on the same machine with players duking it out at either side on their own screen — as it appears to have two or mirrored displays to play on.
Yoooooooo they are working on cocktail table units, too!
(https://media.eventhubs.com/images/2018/07/18_table01.jpg)QuoteThis literal arcade table features Street Fighter 2: Championship Edition, Super Street Fighter 2 and Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo on the same machine with players duking it out at either side on their own screen — as it appears to have two or mirrored displays to play on.
Yoooooooo they are working on cocktail table units, too!
(https://media.eventhubs.com/images/2018/07/18_table01.jpg)QuoteThis literal arcade table features Street Fighter 2: Championship Edition, Super Street Fighter 2 and Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo on the same machine with players duking it out at either side on their own screen — as it appears to have two or mirrored displays to play on.
Very cool, but a few things to think about. The viewable angle of that monitor has to be great. It must be an IPS which offers high degree viewing or else you get.. wall basically nothing. Rainbows and shadows on the screen. Which they should have hopefully figured that out. Next thing - the screen has to be as CLOSE to the top glass as possible. If it is sunk into the cabinet at all (which it appears to be pretty low!) you have lost any comfort in sitting at that cabinet.
I learned both of these lessons the hard way. I bought the wrong monitor which made the thing unplayable, and then I ended up sinking the monitor into the top wood to decrease the depth of the screen. Really helped.
On a positive note, I do believe I see a Pacman back there (hello there Namco games!) and the wood does seem somewhat thick! :D
Ok, yeahp that's probably using the emulator's screen mirroring capability. I wonder what emu they are using? Screen looks ok and the depth doesn't seem too bad!:leon
https://twitter.com/JWonggg/status/1022150327359815680
Yoooooooo they are working on cocktail table units, too!
(https://media.eventhubs.com/images/2018/07/18_table01.jpg)QuoteThis literal arcade table features Street Fighter 2: Championship Edition, Super Street Fighter 2 and Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo on the same machine with players duking it out at either side on their own screen — as it appears to have two or mirrored displays to play on.
Holy crap I need this
Very cool, but a few things to think about. The viewable angle of that monitor has to be great. It must be an IPS which offers high degree viewing or else you get.. wall basically nothing. Rainbows and shadows on the screen. Which they should have hopefully figured that out. Next thing - the screen has to be as CLOSE to the top glass as possible. If it is sunk into the cabinet at all (which it appears to be pretty low!) you have lost any comfort in sitting at that cabinet.
I learned both of these lessons the hard way. I bought the wrong monitor which made the thing unplayable, and then I ended up sinking the monitor into the top wood to decrease the depth of the screen. Really helped.
On a positive note, I do believe I see a Pacman back there (hello there Namco games!) and the wood does seem somewhat thick! :D
Here's a better photo if that helps:
(https://media.eventhubs.com/images/2018/07/18_table02.jpg)
Yeah that SF2 cocktail is a must have, I'll 100% get one of those. Even if the sticks/buttons are crap chinese quality thats an easy fix
They need to get these into a (urk) Youtube influencer's hands. Someone like John's Arcade. Someone who will actually play it and can show the good/bad.
The fuck is this, an arcade cabinet for ants?
Yoooooooo they are working on cocktail table units, too!
(https://media.eventhubs.com/images/2018/07/18_table01.jpg)QuoteThis literal arcade table features Street Fighter 2: Championship Edition, Super Street Fighter 2 and Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo on the same machine with players duking it out at either side on their own screen — as it appears to have two or mirrored displays to play on.
It doesn't seem like there's any Namco games in the 1up collections. Just seems to be Capcom and Atari (who I believe owns Williams arcade rights). Also a bite out of those piece of shit 60-in-1's that fucking suck so much.
The Final Fight cabinet is delayed until spring next year because Best Buy didn't want to carry it.
Each retailer will have an exclusive cabinet, these are supposed to be "secret":
Wal-Mart: Galaga/Galaxian (confirmed by Arcade1up on Twitter)
Gamestop: Space Invaders/??? (not confirmed, but the picture is on their home page)
Best Buy and Bed Bath and Beyond's games aren't know but look to be Pac-Man (not known if it has other games) or Mortal Kombat 2-4.
The Final Fight cabinet is delayed until spring next year because Best Buy didn't want to carry it.
It also sounds like these will be limited run from what their Twitter page was saying. There's a new crop coming in spring 2019 that will replace the current line up.
Some quick impressions from the EVO floor..
Machine is nice, cabinet art is perfect.
Sf 2 stick and buttons. Very loose stick , but feels pretty good. Buttons are alright. The edges /rims are a bit hard. They are easy to press though.
Joystick height seems to work, even though it's slightly higher than normal on the cabinet. Two players are doable but a bit cramped.
Screen is what you would expect from an LCD. It looks fine at a glance, would benefit from a filter with some scan lines. For the price, I'm letting it slide.
They wouldn't say what type of emulation Games ran fine though from my quick sessions.
To select a game while in another, press and hold start for 5 secs and press jab (a).
As mentioned, they will only sell the riser and not the chairs since retailers didn't buy the chairs. If you need a chair, they are not hard to find.
Volume seemed okay even in the crowded EVO exhibit area. There are three levels.
One of the cabinets had a busted right player stick which to be fair had a huge dude shaking that thing like his life depended on it. All the others were okay with normal play and didn't move while playing. Still, wondering how the stick is mounted and if that's a concern because of that one broken one.
Asteroids was like I remember. Will get more time later, and answer any questions you may have.
I checked these out at Evo this weekend.
I had preordered the Asteroids and Centipede ones, mainly because I am interested in the trackball/spinner controllers. I did try the Rampage and Street Fighter II cabinets also, though.
The monitors look like cheap TN panels, with mediocre viewing angles. That said, they're not horrible screens and are pretty servicable if you're standing right in front of the cabinet.
The joysticks were pretty terrible, I had a lot of problems doing shoryuken-type motions, and at least one stick was already flaky and broken (of course, maybe they weren't built to true arcade durability standards and they are out on public display at Evo). They are their own custom sticks from what I can tell and they don't look like they mount the way that real arcade sticks mount (didn't see four screw holes near the opening for the stick in the control panel, so not sure how they are mounted into the cabinet).
The worst thing is that the trackball and spinner are nearly unusable. Real trackballs and spinners are analog controllers, for each axis they output two square waves as a signal with the phase of the waves indicating direction and the frequency of the waves as velocity. These controllers felt very digital, sort of like they had discrete steps like a rotary encoder. This makes makes many of the games unplayable IMHO. On the spinner you can actually feel the individual stops. For example, if you want to move quickly in a game like Major Havoc, you'd spin the spinner quickly, but because it seems like they are using an encoder if you move the spinner fast enough you can seem to wrap the spinner around and actually cause your character to move the WRONG way. If you spin the trackball quickly you get jittery, stuttery motion in every game I tried (Millipede, Crystal Castles, Missile Command).
I'm kinda crushed that these are IMHO not very good and I just cancelled my preorder :( I think that if you're into the joystick controlled games then you'll have a better time, but I already have a real cabinet so there's not much point for me personally.
One more point of trivia - Gauntlet in the Rampage cabinet is the 2P version of the game, because the original Gauntlet had one joystick for each of the four characters. With only three joysticks one character would become unplayable, so they are using the 2P version of the game that allows character selection at the beginning of the game, leaving the third joystick unused.
EVO Impressions
Authentic stickers
Well built
Sticks definitely not up to par. But then again, most of the time at the arcade you had to deal with these imperfections as well. Some levers were loose, others stiff and clicked to certain sides. Buttons were ok.
Monitor was fine, sound was ok
For nostalgia sake these are ok, but if you really want to sit down and get a fair game in, i'd replace the sticks.
Only played 1 SF match though, will definitely try to get in more tomorrow
Great that they are listening to feedback, but sucks they won't be able to make the improvements to the first round of shipments it's literally out in what 60 days?
I spent a bit more time on the SF2 cab and I can say the size definitely hinders the enjoyment. A lot of times if you were 1P you would brush up against 2P's joystick hand which was bothersome. For a 1 player cab, these are great size, but 2 player is pushing it.
Also the ball top can become loose since it's just a screw on. So during game play when doing motions, I could feel the ball top come loose and I'd have to retighten it myself. I'm still intrigued by these and will keep and eye out when people dissect these as they are the cheapest way to get into a small cab that's ready to go.
I had a very long discussion with the people at the booth. As far as the SF2 cabinet, they have taken some of the feedback from EVO and want to fix some of the complaints before launch (which ones he didn't say), and I'm not sure many can be addressed in a short time since they launch in less than two months, but they were genuinely interested in feedback. They do want to improve their overall quality and the showing at EVO was invaluable to them in getting what people liked and disliked
They do have a list of improvements that they want to add to the next batch of cabinets. They never thought about scanlines, they actually thought people wanted crt monitors and not a simple filter. They know now.
Overall, I think it might be worth it for the price if you don't have actual cabinets. They are a cool novelty and conversation piece for sure. I'm going to be modding mine with better buttons etc.
The joysticks were pretty terrible, I had a lot of problems doing shoryuken-type motions
QuoteThe joysticks were pretty terrible, I had a lot of problems doing shoryuken-type motions
Do they play SF2 era games? Because they have different demands for dp’s than modern ones.
I feel like these things will probably still mostly be winner if easy to mod.
I am so tempted.
FYI looks like Wal-Mart has dropped the price to $199, some stores have them on clearance for even cheaper ($75-150).
Golden Tee would be the only one worth it imo. $300 for a single game you can play on pretty much anything with a screen is absurd in 2019.
This is still what I'd like to go with at some point.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJHdrntW_EA
Gotta admit that I'd probably cave if they did an MVS-style red cab with some good NeoGeo games available. :lol
Not sure what you mean by "legit" but higher quality than Arcade 1up. Those guys have a good rep. Costs more since you're just paying for the cab and that's it...gotta supply your own TV/monitor and PC/Pie/whatever, but that's what I like about it- it's all plug and play and you can hook up whatever.
Not sure what you mean by "legit" but higher quality than Arcade 1up. Those guys have a good rep. Costs more since you're just paying for the cab and that's it...gotta supply your own TV/monitor and PC/Pie/whatever, but that's what I like about it- it's all plug and play and you can hook up whatever.
You have to provide your own monitor? That’s bad. What kind of monitors are people going with that’s low in input lag? Only a crt would be a good option.
Gotta admit that I'd probably cave if they did an MVS-style red cab with some good NeoGeo games available. :lol
I got this from AliExpress.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/12-Display-Arcade-Game-console-Table-Top-Game-Cabinet-1500-in-1-Pandora-s-Box-9/32848786730.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.25594c4d33I36F
Gotta admit that I'd probably cave if they did an MVS-style red cab with some good NeoGeo games available. :lol
I got this from AliExpress.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/12-Display-Arcade-Game-console-Table-Top-Game-Cabinet-1500-in-1-Pandora-s-Box-9/32848786730.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.25594c4d33I36F
Hmmm, so if you stick this on a riser is this like a good cheap mame machine without having to build your own mame machine? One day I'd like to have a mame machine.
Gotta admit that I'd probably cave if they did an MVS-style red cab with some good NeoGeo games available. :lol
I got this from AliExpress.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/12-Display-Arcade-Game-console-Table-Top-Game-Cabinet-1500-in-1-Pandora-s-Box-9/32848786730.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.25594c4d33I36F
Hmmm, so if you stick this on a riser is this like a good cheap mame machine without having to build your own mame machine? One day I'd like to have a mame machine.
That table-top Pac-Man machine is pretty hot.
Are the table top ones like a normal cabinet size... or are they for toddlers?
cocktail cab is finally up for presale - 12 games - $499
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Street-Fighter-Head-2-Head-Table-Arcade1UP/326049104
Or Vampire Savior.cocktail cab is finally up for presale - 12 games - $499
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Street-Fighter-Head-2-Head-Table-Arcade1UP/326049104
Cool, but too much SF2 here. Nobody wants to play SF1 either- I would have just put SF2 Turbo and Super Turbo on there and replaced the other four games with different Capcom titles. Ditto for Darkstalkers- why the hell is this on there? At least go with Vampire Hunter.
I think the reason the original gets so much love is that it had a wide distribution in the arcades in the US. I've never seen an American Vampire Hunter cab and I was a huge arcade head. DarkStalkers was pretty popular, though.
seems so, more of a mod than anything. still kinda going back and forth as to whether to keep the order in but leaning towards it. I wish it had the light up marquee. :doge
seems so, more of a mod than anything. still kinda going back and forth as to whether to keep the order in but leaning towards it. I wish it had the light up marquee. :doge
I would return it and get a custom cab instead. :P
seems so, more of a mod than anything. still kinda going back and forth as to whether to keep the order in but leaning towards it. I wish it had the light up marquee.
seems so, more of a mod than anything. still kinda going back and forth as to whether to keep the order in but leaning towards it. I wish it had the light up marquee. :doge
I would return it and get a custom cab instead. :P
I mean if it's possible to mod it even with a Pi (even if it's more work) wouldn't that still be a good price? What is the biggest difference beyond that? Just the ease of modding?
Just FYI that $199 version of MK doesn't include a riser. If you want to get a cabinet to mod, FYE has theirs (including Street Fighter) for $99, and risers for $30, otherwise a lot of Wal Marts seem to be clearancing out some of the cabinets for $75, but YMMV a lot on that one. My local WM has never dropped a price.
Just FYI that $199 version of MK doesn't include a riser. If you want to get a cabinet to mod, FYE has theirs (including Street Fighter) for $99, and risers for $30, otherwise a lot of Wal Marts seem to be clearancing out some of the cabinets for $75, but YMMV a lot on that one. My local WM has never dropped a price.
$99 for a SF is dope, no NME near though and seems sold out on site. I have seen the SF one a bit cheaper before, but MK2 cab/decal is one of my all-time faves.
RE: clearance, thanks, saw some of that while looking at mod options. I saw them at full price a few weeks ago at local WM, will check game section before actually picking it up to make sure nothing in clearance. As for risers, showing in store nearby for like ~44, which I guess I'd want to get but price keeps inching up. :lol
I’ve seen those Turtle cabinets at my Walmart, but they were $400 not $200
For what will end up being around $500, you might just want to look into something from a seller like RecRoomMasters (Xtension), although I think it would cost a lot more for a 4P cab from them.
I’ve seen those Turtle cabinets at my Walmart, but they were $400 not $200
if you wanted to replace all the buttons+sticks in the arcade1up itd be like $160 for 4 players worth of sanwas. i dunno how the defaults feel though, might not be needed
if you wanted to replace all the buttons+sticks in the arcade1up itd be like $160 for 4 players worth of sanwas. i dunno how the defaults feel though, might not be needed
if you wanted to replace all the buttons+sticks in the arcade1up itd be like $160 for 4 players worth of sanwas. i dunno how the defaults feel though, might not be needed
I've still been waffling a lot on which direction to go or if I should just abandon the whole thing entirely. If I could compromise on wanting a 4 player cabinet I think this looks like a good lowish-mid price option:
https://www.recroommasters.com/24-Xtension-Gameplay-Jr-Arcade-Cabinet-p/rm-xt-32-gameplay-jr.htm
I like that a lot more than the 3/4 Alpha-Cade machine bork was linking on the last page from a while back.
I've still been waffling a lot on which direction to go or if I should just abandon the whole thing entirely. If I could compromise on wanting a 4 player cabinet I think this looks like a good lowish-mid price option:
https://www.recroommasters.com/24-Xtension-Gameplay-Jr-Arcade-Cabinet-p/rm-xt-32-gameplay-jr.htm
I like that a lot more than the 3/4 Alpha-Cade machine bork was linking on the last page from a while back.
I think that might be something new? Looks good! I went to their shop to pick mine up and I can certainly say that all of the cab types they had looked like they were very high quality.
I would get the MVC one but it would need to be cheap. Curious about the pinball but it doesn't look the greatest. :lol
Just FYI I did a survey from Arcade1Up a couple of days ago. Some possible upcoming cabinets are Donkey Kong, Simpsons, and X-Men.
It looks like they also might be doing full-size cabinets, but those would be $1-3K.
For $500 I would have thought they would put on the correct number of buttons and in the right layout. And the tiny coin door makes no sense.
But it is a decent selection of games (though more shooters would be nice) and it's good to see one of these coming out with more than a handful of games on it.
I don't get this current movement of making smaller arcade cabs that cost the same as a used arcade cab with original hardware. If you're the type of person who is going to buy a cab today, you're also the type of person that will spend hours replacing the guts to get it working right and spend hundreds more with whatever you pick.Not really, I've seen them in offices and places I didn't expect.
I don't get this current movement of making smaller arcade cabs that cost the same as a used arcade cab with original hardware. If you're the type of person who is going to buy a cab today, you're also the type of person that will spend hours replacing the guts to get it working right and spend hundreds more with whatever you pick.
I don't get this current movement of making smaller arcade cabs that cost the same as a used arcade cab with original hardware. If you're the type of person who is going to buy a cab today, you're also the type of person that will spend hours replacing the guts to get it working right and spend hundreds more with whatever you pick.
Arcade1up is doing a Outrun cabinet with 4 other Sega racing games on it.
Would buy Outrun 2: Coast to Coast, but that'd require Arcade1Up to spend money. :doge
Time Crisis
Time crisis is awesome but come on. :lol
A new light gun that works on modern TVs is coming soon:
https://www.sindenlightgun.com/
I'd rather have the 1/6th scale Dragon's Lair cabinet with a minidisc. :lol
Didn't these all used to have four games included for the most part? Weird that there's a bunch with just three incoming.
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That's all. Just sharing how I feel the value of these cabinets are.
Yeah I think the case of the group I was talking about they have this smaller room that otherwise had no purpose so they turned it into an old school game room. Painted the walls black. So you can doodle things with chalk on them. Light bulbs with different colors. Neon signs and such. They put in a smaller crt TV along with several 80s/90s consoles there. And then these three arcade cabinets. And that sort of completes the room that used to be for nothing other than making it a makeshift guest room or extra office space.
It does look really neat.
But more to your other point of "better to just get a cabinet where you make it a monster arcade emulation machine." While they aren't technologically incompetent, it is something that isn't quite within their grasp of doing. And I guess that's sort of the appeal of these machines, eh? The ease of boot up and play without any other knowledge necessary. Another friend of mine got the Street Fighter 2 cabinet that I think was one of the first things 1up Arcade did? This guy I have no doubt would be able to make a cabinet into a MAME machine. But I think in his case it was more of just "here is a cool thing I have" situation. The guy usually doesn't have guests too often and I can't say he plays it solo.
Man a Simpsons cab would be....hngggghhh
Apparently the KI cab will also have Battletoads/Double Dragon as a bonus and online play.
There's also another Capcom cab coming with multiple SF2s, Darkstalkers, Final Fight, Commando, Ghouls N Ghosts, Strider, and 1944 that will also have online play available.
Apparently the KI cab will also have Battletoads/Double Dragon as a bonus and online play.
There's also another Capcom cab coming with multiple SF2s, Darkstalkers, Final Fight, Commando, Ghouls N Ghosts, Strider, and 1944 that will also have online play available.
All in one cabinet? That would be rather enticing.
What I've noticed is that these machines are great if they are endlessly repeatable games. We have gotten a lot of mileage out of NBA Jam Tournament Edition. Even quite a bit out of Golden Tee. I don't really care about Burger Time, but one of the guys enjoys it from time to time.
Games that have a clear start and end or are level based. By that I mean something like the newly announced X-Men game, those I don't really see as being worth it money-wise. Such games I'd rather download for 5 or 10 dollars on Steam/console digital store because honestly I won't go through them more than 1 or twice in a very long time.
Several summers back I went to an old school arcade joint (Marvin's Marvelous Mechanical Museum) and they had The Simpson's arcade game. Me and my friend decided "let's get a stack of tokens and beat this thing." We did. In like 30 to 40 minutes and each of us put in under 5 dollars worth of coins. It was fun and amusing, but do I have an urge to do that anytime soon? I don't. I'd rather take on some other side scroller I never beat or haven't played in forever. But not for the price of a 1up Arcade cabinet.
So I can see myself getting value out of the Killer Instinct machine. Same as any other 1 vs 1 fighting game. Games that essentially are about playing again and again seem to justify the value of these machines. You want it mainly for display even if you will only play said game once or twice every 3 years? Ok. If that's your thing. Otherwise I see these cabinets being worth their value if they contain games that aren't with a level based A to Z start and ending kind of game.
That's all. Just sharing how I feel the value of these cabinets are.
Apparently the KI cab will also have Battletoads/Double Dragon as a bonus and online play.
There's also another Capcom cab coming with multiple SF2s, Darkstalkers, Final Fight, Commando, Ghouls N Ghosts, Strider, and 1944 that will also have online play available.
All in one cabinet? That would be rather enticing.
Why did they cancel it? Supply issues?
That's fucking dope, have fun maintaining a trackball! Whenever I actually have space my dream cabinet is Marble Madness so I'd get to double up on the fun.