Too late now we can't do anything about it but search for a new planet and start a colony before all our crops fail. :fbm
Too late now we can't do anything about it but search for a new planet and start a colony before all our crops fail. :fbm
Mankind would have to meddle with nature with chemicals or whatever to fix this on a global scale.
In a few years skimpy clothing in a professional workplace will be the norm because it will be too hot :droolMiniskirt Monday
I am very pessimistic on the whole climate change thing.
For example: The 15 largest cargo ships put out more noxious gasses than all the cars in the world combined. 15.
Oh true. But the point stands. If you go after companies you'll make a bigger impact than trying to get millions/billions to change their ways. But we're approaching it in the most inefficient way, trying to get everyone to change their consumption while leaving the biggest polluters to largely do as they will.I am very pessimistic on the whole climate change thing.
For example: The 15 largest cargo ships put out more noxious gasses than all the cars in the world combined. 15.
That may be true for certain types of non-GHG pollutants (a quick google suggests sulfuric gases), but in terms of global climate change cars have a much larger impact.
https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/fast-facts-transportation-greenhouse-gas-emissions
I still believe we need a bat signal of sorts. Some sort of global catastrophe that shakes peeps deeply enough to actually make them press for change, and inconvenient enough to keep that pressure going for a while. I had hoped this one would've been it, but eh.This is always what it comes down to when I'm feeling cynical. Shit has to be actively on fire and falling down a cliff for people to care. On a scale that matters, that is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iyd2C_R0xu8
If worse comes to worse is it possible to hold the powers that tried to doom the planet because of greed responsible and have a good old fashioned execution or public tickling?Let's not kid ourselves. They'll be drinking champagne in their vaults as the rest of us suffocate.
I’ll be dead in like ten years. You’ll take my real man plastic straws from my cold dead hands. Choke the whales. Burn the planet. Eat the children.
https://twitter.com/julian0liver/status/1026817512191782912My brother and I were thinking about moving to Canada later in life.
If worse comes to worse is it possible to hold the powers that tried to doom the planet because of greed responsible and have a good old fashioned execution or public tickling?
https://twitter.com/julian0liver/status/1026817512191782912
I am very pessimistic on the whole climate change thing.
For example: The 15 largest cargo ships put out more noxious gasses than all the cars in the world combined. 15.
Sure, we can try to make cars more efficient, but you'd have to affect every car in the world and you'd still not touch these 15. Yet, we get a bunch of actions on cars instead of cargo ships? Why? Because money of course. And there's tons of stuff like this where it's like "Sure, you could eat less meat." But everyone would have to do that to move that needle. Or we could be smarter about our biggest polluters. But we won't because they have money and power.
The ocean will swallow Houston. Rip
The ocean will swallow Houston. Rip
how you can contribute to helping in your own way:
Eating less meat.
Using the bus more if possible.
Hope and pray that we find a solution to this.
Conservatives far too often mock climate change, saying these issues are contemporary bad science. It’s like they don’t give a shit at the expense of the planet.
Yeah, sounds cruel bla bla bla
Using the bus more if possible.
Yuropean proposes reviving fascism, shocking.
Can someone explain to me why I should be concerned about global warming? I'm only worried about mass extinction chain reactions and systemic crop failures due to crop monocultures.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-08/climate-change-will-get-worse-these-investors-are-betting-on-it
We’re all irreversibly fucked aren’t we?
We’re all irreversibly fucked aren’t we?
There’s no way in hell all of humanity is going to turn on a dime and do what’s necessary to stop an environmental collapse.
We’re all irreversibly fucked aren’t we?To be fair these environmental collapseionists have been talking about the polar caps melting, sahara mud slides, nuclear winter and peak oil for decades and have been consistently wrong.
There’s no way in hell all of humanity is going to turn on a dime and do what’s necessary to stop an environmental collapse.
how are you gonna buy supplies with the IRS breathing down your neck? :dogeI was able to scrounge up $3,000 and write them a check.
Looking forward to politics in my old age being about things like "We have to enact tax credits to encourage the few owners of America's remaining stretches of arable land to grow food for domestic consumption because they're cash cropping" or "How far out should our shoot to kill lines be in the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans?"
how are you gonna buy supplies with the IRS breathing down your neck? :doge
how are you gonna buy supplies with the IRS breathing down your neck? :dogeI was able to scrounge up $3,000 and write them a check.
Don’t ask me how though. :goty
Looking forward to politics in my old age being about things like "We have to enact tax credits to encourage the few owners of America's remaining stretches of arable land to grow food for domestic consumption because they're cash cropping" or "How far out should our shoot to kill lines be in the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans?"
https://twitter.com/RoKhanna/status/1050813229008674816
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/10/un-says-climate-genocide-coming-but-its-worse-than-that.html
I have an apartment close to the coast, should I be selling this bitch at its peak before prices crumble in the next few years or the apartment is underwater in 20?
I'm only worried about mass extinction chain reactions and systemic crop failures due to crop monocultures.https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2018/10/15/hyperalarming-study-shows-massive-insect-loss/
I have an apartment close to the coast, should I be selling this bitch at its peak before prices crumble in the next few years or the apartment is underwater in 20?
If you have to ask, then clearly no.
This (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=climate+change) is a good starting point.ok I read this (http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/07/climate-change-earth-too-hot-for-humans.html) and it was pretty bad
Fossilized crinoids, marine invertebrates that lived during the Permian Period, found in western Australia.
The Trump Administration Pitched Coal at a Climate Change Conference
The United Nations climate change conference underway here in Poland could play a critical role in the fight to stem greenhouse gas emissions and keep temperatures from rising to unsafe levels.
The Trump Administration showed up to pitch fossil fuels. In a closely watched event Monday on the sidelines of official negotiations, U.S. officials touted natural gas and argued in support of coal’s place in the electricity mix.
“It is important to the overall climate discussion that we consider what’s realistic and pragmatic,” P. Wells Griffith, special assistant to the president for international energy and environment, told the crowd “Energy innovation and fossil fuels will continue to play a leading role.”
Coal, of course, contributes more to greenhouse gases on a unit-per-unit basis than any other electricity source and reducing its role is considered a top priority for scientists who want to address global warming. And climate scientists, along with governments in the vast majority of countries, agree that now is the time to sound the alarm on climate change.
Mars is going to be its own unique kind of hell.
I’ll stick to Earth i.e. the hell I’m already familiar with.
IAMs (Integrated assessment models; models of how humans/society affect the natural world) mostly incorporate afforestation and bioenergy
with carbon capture and storage (BECCS) and only in few cases also
include direct air capture with CCS (DACCS) (Chen and Tavoni, 2013;
Marcucci et al., 2017; Strefler et al., 2018b)....
However, there
are a few potentially disruptive technologies that are typically not yet
well covered in IAMs and that have the potential to alter the shape of
mitigation pathways beyond the ranges in the IAM-based literature.
Mars is going to be its own unique kind of hell.
I’ll stick to Earth i.e. the hell I’m already familiar with.
living on a shithole planet with half earth gravity where your bone density will be fucked in a few months and you spend trillions to keep a small population alive and mine ice water to survive :nope
isn't the reasoning for the mars colony bros like musk that we need a small backup to eventually repopulate earth in case we annihilate ourselves via nuclear sudoku or get asteroided etc? even if we melt all the ice and continue onward, earth will be a relative paradise compared to the wasteland of mars.
the whole "we need to find another planet" thing because we're making our extremely hospitable planet relatively less hospitable, but still very much livable relative to anything else remotely feasible in our near vicinity is just dumb.
as far as earth ghg's, im no climate skeptic. clearly climate change is going to fuck a lot of people in the near future, but we're quickly getting to the point where carbon capture, and emission reduction policy is positioned to start being somewhat effective. we'll see what sort of timeline or if there will be enough buy in for the required government investment around the world in this future, but the technology is at least plausible, and over the next century CO2 emitting industry will slow down significantly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecxCL84n26g
youtubers save the world maths:
"in 2017 the world emitted 32.5 gigatons of c02, if this technology were built at a scale to suck all of this out every year at $93 - $232 per tonne x 32.5 gigatons = $3 - $7.5 Trillion annually"
Global gdp is over 80 trillion.
https://carbonengineering.com/
https://www.globalccsinstitute.com/news-media/insights/9109/
https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uploads/sites/2/2019/02/SR15_Chapter2_Low_Res.pdf
Still a big maybe, but even the officials are at least acknowledging there is a possibility of greater technological intervention beyond what is currently theorised to reduce carbon emissions alongside efficiency/low energy and reduction efforts.QuoteIAMs (Integrated assessment models; models of how humans/society affect the natural world) mostly incorporate afforestation and bioenergy
with carbon capture and storage (BECCS) and only in few cases also
include direct air capture with CCS (DACCS) (Chen and Tavoni, 2013;
Marcucci et al., 2017; Strefler et al., 2018b)....
However, there
are a few potentially disruptive technologies that are typically not yet
well covered in IAMs and that have the potential to alter the shape of
mitigation pathways beyond the ranges in the IAM-based literature.
Que?
I am talking about ousting the government, putting the country under international control and guarding the remaining Amazon rain forest with UN troops if necessary.
It's a business deal. For years the message to periphery and semi-periphery economies has been "shred your resources to fulfill our needs and in exchange you will theoretically receive some developmental benefits." Now we're asking them to dramatically restructure their modes of production in exchange for... not being violently attacked?
Oh, I am absolutely in favour of supporting Brazil's infrastructure, I would gladly pay a rainforest tax.
Oh, I am absolutely in favour of supporting Brazil's infrastructure, I would gladly pay a rainforest tax.
That's considerably different from "Let's invade a Top 10 economy, topple their government, and leave behind a significant military presence indefinitely."
In a sane world, a short ultimatum would be handed to Brazil by the international community to stop the deforestation, followed by military invasion. It would be one of the very few just wars in human history.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Give_Me_Liberty#Part_1:_Homes_&_Gardens
There has to be a balance where we allow countries to elevate themselves (through the same means that current first world countries did), but in a more responsible manner.
This is 100% going to get weaponized against the economic periphery and semi-periphery, isn't it?
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/24/climate/moodys-ratings-climate-change-data.html
In a sane world, a short ultimatum would be handed to Brazil by the international community to stop the deforestation, followed by military invasion. It would be one of the very few just wars in human history.
In the interest of the survival of our species and as a matter of self-defense, this needs to be stopped right now, no matter how.I don't think it can be stopped. At least, I wouldn't have the slightest idea how you could stop a forest fire of this size
https://mobile.twitter.com/i/events/1164155245913505792
ecofascistic imperialism, colonialism for a new age
:jeb
http://twitter.com/theintercept/status/1164225530629165056
We won't, and then we're all going to die. But at least we'll then be able to look back contentedly (for a short moment at least) at the time this crisis was unfolding and when a quick intervention could have prevented a global catastrophe resulting in the death of Billions and be glad it wasn't weaponized against the periphery and its poor right wing goverment.That's the rationale that got Truman and others to meddle in South American affairs during the cold war of which Bolsonaro is a logical outcome.
This shit is making me socialist again lmao :rofl these mfers
This shit is making me socialist again lmao :rofl these mfers
Most days it feels like a strong breeze is enough to initiate radical change in you.
As a side note, it's amazing that in 600 years primitive accumulation really hasn't changed :leonreminds me of that one scene in The Act of Killing where the rich guy just openly brags about how they hire "gangsters" to kick the peasants off the land. In the 21st century! Today! You watch other societies develop and even in the context of foreign capital you can't help but be like "oh, yeah, Adam Smith was definitely wrong. They kill people and enclose the commons. Look, it's on video."
Capital is nothing if not consistent :obama
If we're past the point of no return, why bother. Everyone run their ACs with the windows open the rest of summer :jebElectric bills are still a thing, you know. :doge
We won't, and then we're all going to die. But at least we'll then be able to look back contentedly (for a short moment at least) at the time this crisis was unfolding and when a quick intervention could have prevented a global catastrophe resulting in the death of Billions and be glad it wasn't weaponized against the periphery and its poor right wing goverment.
We won't, and then we're all going to die. But at least we'll then be able to look back contentedly (for a short moment at least) at the time this crisis was unfolding and when a quick intervention could have prevented a global catastrophe resulting in the death of Billions and be glad it wasn't weaponized against the periphery and its poor right wing goverment.
I agree that goading the Trump administration into invading and occupying Brazil would be the smart and good thing to do.
We won't, and then we're all going to die. But at least we'll then be able to look back contentedly (for a short moment at least) at the time this crisis was unfolding and when a quick intervention could have prevented a global catastrophe resulting in the death of Billions and be glad it wasn't weaponized against the periphery and its poor right wing goverment.
I agree that goading the Trump administration into invading and occupying Brazil would be the smart and good thing to do.
"WOW did you see those planes. Bang bang, bing bing.... I told you we would win if we used the Napalm again. And they said 'oh sir please don't use the NAPALM... it burns so much' and then the trees. NAPALM do we love that word?
I asked the other day to a great veteran of Vietnam. I said, what could we have done to win and he said burn more trees so we could see the damn bastards but the Geneva wouldn't let us.
Geneva? Never met her and believe me they don't have the US military in Geneva I can tell you that.
We won bigly folks. Now for my first action. You all care very much about the Amazons right. That's why we did this and why Congress asked me to take action... look CNN is smiling!
Even the media likes me now. It would never happen again they said, remember that ooooh it would never happen again. Yet they voted for this Nazi can you believe how STUPID the people of Brazil are.
Lucky we got there in time folks. Luckily we got there in time before they started rounding up the Jews at Amazon. Talk about a brand killer.
Now I'm happy to announce that my son Eric Trump will be the new President of the Amazon and Brazil. Who better than a guy who knows a lot of about forests and hunting and believe me he knows a lot.
We're going to start raking, we're going to start cutting and sawing and farming and most of all we're going to start building and make The Amazon Great Again. Fantastic everyone. THANK YOU"
This shit is making me socialist again lmao :rofl these mfers
Most days it feels like a strong breeze is enough to initiate radical change in you.
We won't, and then we're all going to die. But at least we'll then be able to look back contentedly (for a short moment at least) at the time this crisis was unfolding and when a quick intervention could have prevented a global catastrophe resulting in the death of Billions and be glad it wasn't weaponized against the periphery and its poor right wing goverment.
I agree that goading the Trump administration into invading and occupying Brazil would be the smart and good thing to do.
"WOW did you see those planes. Bang bang, bing bing.... I told you we would win if we used the Napalm again. And they said 'oh sir please don't use the NAPALM... it burns so much' and then the trees. NAPALM do we love that word?
I asked the other day to a great veteran of Vietnam. I said, what could we have done to win and he said burn more trees so we could see the damn bastards but the Geneva wouldn't let us.
Geneva? Never met her and believe me they don't have the US military in Geneva I can tell you that.
We won bigly folks. Now for my first action. You all care very much about the Amazons right. That's why we did this and why Congress asked me to take action... look CNN is smiling!
Even the media likes me now. It would never happen again they said, remember that ooooh it would never happen again. Yet they voted for this Nazi can you believe how STUPID the people of Brazil are.
Lucky we got there in time folks. Luckily we got there in time before they started rounding up the Jews at Amazon. Talk about a brand killer.
Now I'm happy to announce that my son Eric Trump will be the new President of the Amazon and Brazil. Who better than a guy who knows a lot of about forests and hunting and believe me he knows a lot.
We're going to start raking, we're going to start cutting and sawing and farming and most of all we're going to start building and make The Amazon Great Again. Fantastic everyone. THANK YOU"
This is… way too easy to envision.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/trump-pushes-to-allow-new-logging-in-alaskas-tongass-national-forest/2019/08/27/b4ca78d6-c832-11e9-be05-f76ac4ec618c_story.html?noredirect=on
Being able to witness the end of the world in my lifetime :rejoice it's a horrible kind of privilege, but a privilege no doubt.
https://twitter.com/LegendaryEnergy/status/1175078447535640576
The governor of the Bank of England has warned that the global financial system is backing carbon-producing projects that will raise the temperature of the planet by over 4C – more than double the pledge to limit increases to well below 2C contained in the Paris Agreement.just a reminder... ruin or revolution...
In a stark warning over global heating, Mark Carney said the multitrillion-dollar international capital markets – where companies raise funds by selling shares and bonds to investors – are financing activities that would lift global temperatures to more than 4C above pre-industrial levels.
World leaders agreed in the Paris climate accords to keep the temperature rise this century well below 2C above pre-industrial levels and to pursue efforts to limit the rise to 1.5C.
But in a stark illustration of the scale of the decarbonisation challenge facing the world economy, Carney suggested companies had already secured financing from investors in the global capital markets – worth $85tn (£67.2tn) for stocks and $100tn for bonds – that will keep the world on a trajectory consistent with catastrophic global heating.
I like how the average US/EU/AUS citizen uses 95000x the resources of your typical Ugandan but the solution will be 'population control'
We can start by getting rid of the dutch. What are they good for, anyway.
We can start by getting rid of the dutch. What are they good for, anyway.
How many Dutch here anyway, three atleast? They seem weirdly over-represented here.
I like how the average US/EU/AUS citizen uses 95000x the resources of your typical Ugandan but the solution will be 'population control'. We're fucked lol
We can start by getting rid of the dutch. What are they good for, anyway.Google siswet, brah. ::) :nsfw
https://twitter.com/business/status/1200078223037673472
Exactly what I've been saying, seems at least in the scientific community reason prevails.
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=44608.msg2624242#msg2624242
https://twitter.com/business/status/1200078223037673472
Exactly what I've been saying, seems at least in the scientific community reason prevails.
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=44608.msg2624242#msg2624242
You also said we should declare war on Brazil--something incredibly degrading to the environment--to stop the intentional burning of the Amazon by Brazilians.
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1205959214763511808
:beli no takesies backsies!
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1205959214763511808
:beli no takesies backsies!
French has a similar idiom, "avoir/être le dos au mur" - literally means to have one's / be with one's back to the wall, meaning you have to face / address something.
Is that not a thing in english, or have you delicate little things erased it because it's not PC or something?
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1205959214763511808
:beli no takesies backsies!
French has a similar idiom, "avoir/être le dos au mur" - literally means to have one's / be with one's back to the wall, meaning you have to face / address something.
Is that not a thing in english, or have you delicate little things erased it because it's not PC or something?
It might be why she did a straight translation from Swedish, besides the fact that European languages share a bunch of idioms.
I wrote Germanic initially. I don't have data either way, so I cast a broader net to be safe. :yeshrugIt might be why she did a straight translation from Swedish, besides the fact that European languages share a bunch of idioms.
Swedish and English are both germanic languages :bolo
I guess it's just another case of "We can't be arsed to learn any foreign language :hmph but DON'T YOU DARE not speak perfect english :rage "
occam really is an autist at a level we haven't seen for a while
Here's a sort of realtime tracker of babies being born
https://neal.fun/baby-map/ (https://neal.fun/baby-map/)
Reducing emissions by a percentage point or two is not going to make a dent.
occam really is an autist at a level we haven't seen for a while
The challenge for our country has always been its size.
From this spot I can reach any of our borders within 3 hours or less.
We're already at a 23% reduction since the 1990's
The highest court in the Netherlands has upheld a ruling requiring the government to slash greenhouse gas emissions by at least 25% of 1990 levels by the end of next year.
The case was brought six years ago by the Urgenda environment group in a bid to force ministers to go well beyond EU targets.
However, the chances of the government reaching the target look slim.
By the end of 2018, emissions were down only 15% on 1990 levels.
Dutch environment researchers believe that levels could be cut by 23% by the end of 2020 but believe the reduction could be as low as 19%.
I got it from RTL Nieuws. They made a calculation that we needed to close 1 or 2 coal plants that were due for closure.We're already at a 23% reduction since the 1990's
btw this is a lie
Let's be real. The NL could be covered by the Channel / North Sea tomorrow, and no one would notice. Or care.We are the second biggest agri-food exporter in the world.
:stahp
...Still, charting by monetary value has my BS sensors tingling. Not enough to look shit up, but I very much doubt that there'd be famines. Let's see the chart by volume or whatever. :hmph
:stahpYou can learn more about how we do it here:
...Still, charting by monetary value has my BS sensors tingling. Not enough to look shit up, but I very much doubt that there'd be famines. Let's see the chart by volume or whatever. :hmph
The Dutch are also the world’s top exporter of potatoes and onions and the second largest exporter of vegetables overall in terms of value.Value looks great, but by volume the Netherlands don't chart anywhere in the top 5. :hmm
More than a third of all global trade in vegetable seeds originates in the Netherlands.This though... Seeds must have a great value/weight ratio. Would help explain the discrepancy.
But yeah whatever, just let the planet starve to death and waste tons more water with inefficient farming practices. Who needs the Dutch anyway :trumpsIt's these weasely superlatives that have me permantently side-eyeing anything you say.
You're looking at overall production of staples vs. value of exports. A small country like NL is never going to show up on a list of top producers.I suspected it wouldn't, but the ranking by value had me doubting myself. The implication that anybody would starve if not for the NL is dubious, either way. That was my main point of contention.
We are the second biggest agri-food exporter in the world.
You would notice the famines.
(https://www.government.nl/binaries/large/content/gallery/government/content-afbeeldingen/ministries/lnv/min-lnv-agri-food-export-figures-2017_02.jpg)
In fact, all this energy-saving might cause problems. Innovation requires experiments (most of which fail). Experiments require energy. So cheap energy is crucial — as shown by the industrial revolution. Thus, energy may be the one resource that a prospering population should be using more of. Fortunately, it is now possible that nuclear fusion will one day deliver energy in minimalist form, using very little fuel and land.Probably. Any time now. It will be ready when we need it. Definitely maybe.
https://twitter.com/johnmoralesnbc6/status/1250513598788575234
:-\
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/amazon-rainforest-now-emits-more-greenhouse-gases-it-absorbs-180977347/:dead
Whelp it was fun breathing air for a few decades.
How about switching to man meat? :drool :shaq
I think I'll go fish + vegetarian in a few years. :)
I think I'll go fish + vegetarian in a few years. :)
You can do it now, I believe in you
:heartbeat
Stop washing your dishes :maf
I love hamburgers. not wasting the last few good years before global disaster eating hot garbage for breakfast, lunch, and dinner so I can pretend that I'm helping :neogaf :crowdlaff :heh
y'all be cool, I'll be at the taco truck :lol
Only 1 million years left?I love hamburgers. not wasting the last few good years before global disaster eating hot garbage for breakfast, lunch, and dinner so I can pretend that I'm helping :neogaf :crowdlaff :heh
y'all be cool, I'll be at the taco truck :lol
Well best estimates indicate that the human race will be pretty much extinct within 1 million years, so everything we do right now is ultimately futile in the grand scheme of things.
So... knock yourself out?
https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/4975
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jul/27/tire-deflators-suv-new-york-climate-crisis
An estimated one billion crabs have mysteriously disappeared in two years, state officials said. It marks a 90% drop in their population.
London's National Gallery confirmed it is now back in place, about six hours after the soup incident.
The gallery said earlier the painting was covered by glass and therefore not damaged.
There is “no credible pathway to 1.5C in place”, the UN’s environment agency has said, and the failure to reduce carbon emissions means the only way to limit the worst impacts of the climate crisis is a “rapid transformation of societies”.
https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1604771215624790016 (https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1604771215624790016)
I'm waiting for the clip where the climate terrorist accidentally cause a gas leak and explosion :teehee
https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1604771215624790016 (https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1604771215624790016)
I'm waiting for the clip where the climate terrorist accidentally cause a gas leak and explosion :teehee
“The climate time bomb is ticking. But today’s IPCC report is a how-to guide to defuse the climate time bomb. It is a survival guide for humanity,” U.N. Secretary-General António Guterres said on Monday.
“As it shows, the 1.5-degree limit is achievable. But it will take a quantum leap in climate action.” Guterres described the report as a “clarion call to massively fast-track climate efforts by every country and every sector and on every timeframe.”
He added, “In short, our world needs climate action on all fronts — everything, everywhere, all at once.”
expensive imported energy.