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Title: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 12, 2018, 02:56:32 PM
Is it Volta? Is it Turing? Is it the GTX 1100 series or the RTX 2000 series???

Most importantly is it really only gonna be an 8% improvement over the 1080ti? :beli

https://www.techradar.com/news/geforce-rtx-2080-may-be-the-name-of-nvidias-next-flagship-graphics-card

https://www.trustedreviews.com/news/nvidia-turing-release-date-2952823

Either way in late September I'll be spending $700 on a new graphics card because it's past time for me to update and if I can't play games at 4k the terrorists have truly won.

Note: posted in the non-gaming forum to protect it from contamination by console dirtpeople.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Nintex on August 12, 2018, 03:16:04 PM
16GB VRAM  :lawd

Maybe this will finally replace my GTX980 Ti but so far there hasn't been a reason to upgrade.  :doge
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Momo on August 12, 2018, 03:18:57 PM
I still have a Voodoo2 by 3dfx and proudly run games in 35p
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: BisMarckie on August 12, 2018, 03:22:11 PM
I still have a Voodoo2 by 3dfx and proudly run games in 35p

My dad bought a PC for me which had a ATI Rage in it. :trash
I just wanted the Voodoo Banshee :fbm

On topic: I bought a 1080 a couple of months ago, I don't see a reason to upgrade at all. Especially since I am still playing in 1080p because I think it's good enough. :doge
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: headwalk on August 12, 2018, 03:27:19 PM
had a sniff on west ham to win today at 13/1 with the idea that the winnings would buy me the best part of a new 1440p/gsync/IPS gaming monitor.

i am not a good gambler.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 12, 2018, 03:35:28 PM
16GB vram would be nice.  If the price is right I might buy one for school and then bring my Titan X home.  This is mostly a brag post that I got a Titan X.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Kara on August 12, 2018, 03:42:46 PM
I still have a Voodoo2 by 3dfx and proudly run games in 35p

My dad bought a PC for me which had a ATI Rage in it. :trash
I just wanted the Voodoo Banshee :fbm

brb building a time machine to report your dad to DCS
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Huff on August 12, 2018, 03:45:21 PM
But why does a watch need nvidia gpu computing?
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 12, 2018, 03:55:09 PM
But why does a watch need nvidia gpu computing?

To power the speech recognition, VR projections, and GPU accelerated time obviously.   
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Freyj on August 12, 2018, 04:27:20 PM
My 2500K is finally feeling old. Might start looking at an entirely new build with one of these as well.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 12, 2018, 05:04:38 PM
I still have a Voodoo2 by 3dfx and proudly run games in 35p

My dad bought a PC for me which had a ATI Rage in it. :trash
I just wanted the Voodoo Banshee :fbm

On topic: I bought a 1080 a couple of months ago, I don't see a reason to upgrade at all. Especially since I am still playing in 1080p because I think it's good enough. :doge

If you're just going to be 1080p there's no reason to upgrade. Unless maybe you're streaming too.

I'm going 4k tho, minesweeper gonna be lit fam
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 12, 2018, 05:08:59 PM
I didn't realize people your age could see the difference between 1080 and 4k, Snor.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 12, 2018, 06:10:07 PM
I didn't realize people your age could see the difference between 1080 and 4k, Snor.

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/l2YWxte7sJB2XuE8M/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 12, 2018, 06:15:39 PM
K.  All games going to look like dying light and I don't mean the game. 
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Nabbis on August 12, 2018, 07:02:16 PM
I hope it sucks donkey balls since i just got a 1080TI.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: El Babua on August 12, 2018, 07:07:30 PM
Been holding on to a 6700k and ROG IX Maximus motherboard for over a year because of the GPU shortages.

Probably gonna get the 1070 equivalent. Hoping it's around the same power as the 1080ti
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 12, 2018, 07:15:36 PM
I hope it sucks donkey balls since i just got a 1080TI.

From all of the rumors unless you get a Titan the gains will be incremental over a 1080ti. Like, 10%ish. Depending on what happens I'm likely to just get a 1080ti in late September, I expect the prices to drop by another $100-200 after the new products are confirmed cause pc gamers are insane.

It sucks that AMD can't make a decent fucking high end card these days, nvidia basically gets to set the market as they want it.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Nabbis on August 12, 2018, 07:21:00 PM
I hope it sucks donkey balls since i just got a 1080TI.

From all of the rumors unless you get a Titan the gains will be incremental over a 1080ti. Like, 10%ish. Depending on what happens I'm likely to just get a 1080ti in late September, I expect the prices to drop by another $100-200 after the new products are confirmed cause pc gamers are insane.

It sucks that AMD can't make a decent fucking high end card these days, nvidia basically gets to set the market as they want it.

I don't think i will need anything better for a while since consoles are basically dictating performance and engine scaling anyway. It's always interesting to see what the new cards will do though.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: kingv on August 12, 2018, 08:34:21 PM
For that reason I feel like a solid Move is to just get whatever comes out shortly after the net generation of consoles. You basically know it will be a decent leap over the consoles but will probably carry you just fine through the next generation.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 14, 2018, 12:24:42 AM
https://www.pcmag.com/news/363080/nvidia-unveils-turing-architecture-for-more-powerful-gpus

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/13NaYABDVhT7a/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: agrajag on August 14, 2018, 12:49:48 AM
Ray tracing. Raaaaaaaaaaay tracing!
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Nabbis on August 14, 2018, 06:57:15 AM
Getting flashbacks from that 2014 unreal raytracing demo... Turned out to be a nothingburger even after four years.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: headwalk on August 14, 2018, 07:06:17 AM
absolutely made up that crypto died before retailers got a chance to gouge the shit out of the new nvidia cards.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 14, 2018, 05:41:34 PM
Yeah but does it run Crysis tho

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/ashes-singularity-leak-benchmarks-nvidia-gpu,37605.html
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: bork on August 15, 2018, 08:26:31 AM
Ray tracing. Raaaaaaaaaaay tracing!

AHEAD OF ITS TIME

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f1/Ray_Tracers_front_cover.jpg/225px-Ray_Tracers_front_cover.jpg)
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 18, 2018, 03:01:44 AM
Welp, if this shit is real, the RTX 2080ti will be launching with the 2080 and is a beast and a half. And, you know, it's $1k.

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/pny-geforce-rtx-2080-and-2080-ti-product-data-sheet-leaks-reveals-all.html
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Nabbis on August 18, 2018, 08:16:28 AM
Better go all over the internet posting worries if "my 8700k and 4000mhz memory will be a bottleneck for 2080ti...? :(".
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on August 18, 2018, 09:49:55 AM
i am rock hard
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 18, 2018, 04:10:10 PM
i am rock hard

When I read the specs on that 2080ti, I felt the same way that I imagine Paul Ryan did the last time he choked a homeless person to death: alive.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: kingv on August 19, 2018, 03:23:50 PM
Somehow I get the strong suspicion that the 2070 is going to be a $400 card
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Nabbis on August 19, 2018, 03:28:23 PM
Somehow I get the strong suspicion that the 2070 is going to be a $400 card

Yeah, when you buy used in two years.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 20, 2018, 01:03:38 AM
Somehow I get the strong suspicion that the 2070 is going to be a $400 card

Your suspicion is basically confirmed.

https://hothardware.com/news/nvidia-rtx-2070-leak

Quote
A new rumor is now making the rounds that has to do with a forthcoming GeForce RTX 2070, and this card sounds like a beast with a launch date tipped for some time in September. The specs leak for the RTX 2070 will have some reaching for wallets in preparation; this card is tipped to have 2304 CUDA cores and 8GB of GDDR6 RAM.

This leak also tips that the price for the RTX 2070 will be somewhere around the $400 realm. Performance is tipped to be about 40% faster than the old GeForce GTX 1070. Right above the RTX 2070, the RTX 2080 is expected to sit carrying a price of $500 to $700 and packing performance estimated at 50% faster than the GeForce GTX 1080.

I'm torn on what to do. I need a new card for the pc that I'm building, which I'd like to be as future proof as possible. (Going with an i7-8700k, 32 gb of ram, blah blah blah) I want to be able to game in 4k at the highest settings comfortably at 60 fps but have no need to play anything faster as I got a 60hz 4k monitor and don't give a shit for esportsy shit- I'm old and just wanna look at pretty shit on my monitor basically. I strongly suspect that getting a 2080ti is overkill for my needs.

Further complicating matters is that on 8/23 another round of President Shit for Brains tariffs (or maybe these are retaliatory tariffs hitting us, can't remember, but they're 100% President Small Hands' fault) are going into effect, which will hit computer components coming from China to the tune of about a 25% increase. But, like, is that an INSTANT increase on everything or just on shit that's not in the country yet? Should I preorder immediately tomorrow after Jensen is done with his spiel at Gamescom? Will I be limited to only preordering straight from nvidia or can I get shit from 3rd party vendors? I hate the closed blower style cards nvidia seems to favor with their founders edition shit. I would genuinely prefer not to have to deal with one. UGH FUCKING DECISIONS. 2080 or 2080ti???
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Nabbis on August 20, 2018, 08:06:46 AM
Uhhuh.

(https://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2018/08/Zotac-RTX-2080-precios.jpg)

Prepare to sell ass.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: archie4208 on August 20, 2018, 08:11:58 AM
4k/60fps is still out of my league.  I'm going to settle for a 2070 and go to 1440p this time around.  I also should be fine without having to upgrade my CPU (wish I had got the i7 :fbm).  Maybe the next cards will make the 4k/60fps dream more affordable.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Rufus on August 20, 2018, 09:26:32 AM
If you're aiming for 4K60 the decision is already made for you, I feel.

I just hope the 2060 isn't too pricey. But it's gonna be 300€ here, I just know it. I don't want to pay much more than 200€ though. :shaq2
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: kingv on August 20, 2018, 10:35:40 AM
Pretty disappointing if 2070 can’t hit 4k60 at medium settings on most games.

I understand it’s a huge bump in power to achieve, but to me it’s the only upgrade worth making.

I feel pretty confident that I can continue to putter around at 1080p60 basically until the ps5 comes out on my 970... having a 1x and pspro helps, when I want that 4K fix.

Also, I’m just annoyed at Nvidia pricing the last two gens. They always seem to increase the bae price of everything by like 10%. I always felt that the 1070 was about $50 too expensive, and it looks like the 2070 is going to followin it’s footsteps and be $80 too expensive (and maybe with some nice tariffs too).
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Nabbis on August 20, 2018, 10:59:18 AM
I wish PC games used interpolated resolution more, the difference between 1440p interpolated to 4k and 4k is minimal at best and would take care most of the issue where you need ridiculous amounts of power to reach basically the same IQ.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Himu on August 20, 2018, 11:08:13 AM
should i get a laptop with 1060 in it or just wait for one of these

need new laptop so this is important
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 20, 2018, 12:16:39 PM
should i get a laptop with 1060 in it or just wait for one of these

need new laptop so this is important

What do you need it to do, realistically speaking? Also, when do you need to get it? The mobile versions of these cards probably won't come out until Nov/Dec.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 20, 2018, 12:18:41 PM
Pretty disappointing if 2070 can’t hit 4k60 at medium settings on most games.

I understand it’s a huge bump in power to achieve, but to me it’s the only upgrade worth making.

I feel pretty confident that I can continue to putter around at 1080p60 basically until the ps5 comes out on my 970... having a 1x and pspro helps, when I want that 4K fix.

Also, I’m just annoyed at Nvidia pricing the last two gens. They always seem to increase the bae price of everything by like 10%. I always felt that the 1070 was about $50 too expensive, and it looks like the 2070 is going to followin it’s footsteps and be $80 too expensive (and maybe with some nice tariffs too).

I mean I agree but at the same time they're able to completely set the market how they want it because AMD is unable to put out serious high end (read: 4k capable) cards. If AMD hadn't shat the bed for like two successive gens at least things might be different.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: kingv on August 20, 2018, 12:20:29 PM
I wish PC games used interpolated resolution more, the difference between 1440p interpolated to 4k and 4k is minimal at best and would take care most of the issue where you need ridiculous amounts of power to reach basically the same IQ.

Yeah, the X1X and PSPRO really opened my eyes to how inefficient pc architecture can be. Despite the fact that I think a Hellblade is kind of mediocre, the graphics on the 1X are fucking amazing. There’s spots that I legitimately thought were pre-rendered until I went into photo mode and realized it’s all real time.

And I think it basically has like a roughly 980 equivalent gpu or something like that.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 20, 2018, 12:25:12 PM
OMG STREAM IS STARTING SAVE US JENSEN FONZI-SAN
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Nintex on August 20, 2018, 12:26:54 PM
"Every leaked spec is wrong"

"Welcome to the launch of the Nvidia GeForce GTX 1180," says CEO Jensen Huang. "Every spec that leaked online is wrong."

WOW  :doge
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Himu on August 20, 2018, 12:48:14 PM
should i get a laptop with 1060 in it or just wait for one of these

need new laptop so this is important

What do you need it to do, realistically speaking? Also, when do you need to get it? The mobile versions of these cards probably won't come out until Nov/Dec.

Animate and be able to handle high res art. Games are a bonus but work is the primary focus.

Tbh the current laptops could do just that but I’m not sure how much of a jump the new cards will be in comparison.

Thinking of getting laptop next month to do art for school admissions.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Nintex on August 20, 2018, 12:50:40 PM
holy fuck.

AMD is dead  :doge
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 20, 2018, 12:56:04 PM
should i get a laptop with 1060 in it or just wait for one of these

need new laptop so this is important

What do you need it to do, realistically speaking? Also, when do you need to get it? The mobile versions of these cards probably won't come out until Nov/Dec.

Animate and be able to handle high res art. Games are a bonus but work is the primary focus.

Tbh the current laptops could do just that but I’m not sure how much of a jump the new cards will be in comparison.

Thinking of getting laptop next month to do art for school admissions.

I'd wait to read some articles after people get to run tests and comparisons on the new shit. If you have any resources/sites that you trust for that sort of thing check with them; I'm just going to be using it for gaming so can't really speak to your needs, sadly.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Himu on August 20, 2018, 12:57:29 PM
People care about amd?
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 20, 2018, 01:00:17 PM
People care about amd?

No, they're useless. Well, they're useless for graphics cards for years now, they're actually doing a good job of punching intel in the face on the cpu front with Ryzen.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Nintex on August 20, 2018, 01:13:04 PM
Battlefield V and Tomb Raider will make use of ray tracing and other RTX features.

2070 = $599

2080 = $799

2080 Ti = $1199
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Tasty on August 20, 2018, 01:13:34 PM
Battlefield V and Tomb Raider will make use of ray tracing and other RTX features.

2070 = $599

2080 = $799

2080 Ti = $1199

Ahahahaha
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Nabbis on August 20, 2018, 01:21:00 PM
399$ (https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/016/729/large.jpg)
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on August 20, 2018, 01:32:37 PM
People surprised at high end shit pushing the limits, is expensive  :teehee

God, it looks good.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 20, 2018, 01:36:36 PM
...looks like a 2080 for me  :-\
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 20, 2018, 01:46:56 PM
Founders Editions don't ship until 9/20? JENSEN PLZ
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Nintex on August 20, 2018, 02:00:41 PM
They updated the prices

2070 = 499 (3 x faster than the Titan X)

2080 = 699

2080 Ti = 999

sept 20th
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Nabbis on August 20, 2018, 02:04:19 PM
I would like to congratulate Nvidia for preserving my Strix 1080Ti value that i got for 600e used. Will be selling it off once 7nm comes.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 20, 2018, 02:31:21 PM
They updated the prices

2070 = 499 (3 x faster than the Titan X)

2080 = 699

2080 Ti = 999

sept 20th

The preorder prices are still the other ones tho

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/20-series/?nvid=nv-int-gcxxpn-56592

 :mjcry
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: kingv on August 20, 2018, 02:31:39 PM
How big is the market really for $599 “mid-range” GPUs?

Like kind of a lot more people have 1060/1050/1050Tis than 1070/1080/1080ti according to steams survey

But also according to steam basically nobody uses AMD anymore. I have a feeling the fact that AMD keeps launching duds and Nvidia’s outrageous prices are somehow related.

I bet the margins on these things are crazy high.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 20, 2018, 02:32:55 PM
TBH at this point I kind of want to see how much prices on 1080tis drop if I'm not gonna be able to get anything until late September anyway...
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Nintex on August 20, 2018, 02:36:28 PM
The 2070 comes in at $100 less than the 1080 so I don't expect prices to drop except maybe for clearance sales.
But supply of the 1080's wasn't that high to begin with.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Tasty on August 20, 2018, 02:42:55 PM
what's with the batshit insane prices

ya they're more powerful but they also keep getting more expensive

why aren't more ppl noticing it

it's not just the bitcoin bullshit

they keep beefing it up, adding to the cost

it used to $200, $300, $400-$500

for 6 7 8 series

now it's gotten double that

end of moore's law is upon us brehs

Moore's Law has been limping along for a while now. Also that applied to CPUs, not necessarily GPUs.

Also, inflation, supply and demand, etc. AKA people like Triumph keep buying in despite the higher prices so why not? It's free money for nVidia.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Nintex on August 20, 2018, 02:55:19 PM
what's with the batshit insane prices

ya they're more powerful but they also keep getting more expensive

why aren't more ppl noticing it

it's not just the bitcoin bullshit

they keep beefing it up, adding to the cost

it used to $200, $300, $400-$500

for 6 7 8 series

now it's gotten double that

end of moore's law is upon us brehs
I'm looking at Euro prices now. My GXT980 Ti which I'm still rocking cost ~750 when I bought it.

The 1080 seems to be about 539 down from 800 at launch with the cheapest 2080 landing at 899.
A GeForce GTX 1060(the most used card according to Steam HW survey (https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/)) will get you 30fps@ 4k and 90fps @1080p in Battlefield 1 everything maxed out (so resolutions in between ~60/70 fps) and comes in at 225.
I don't think the only issue is Nvidia jacking up the prices (which they obviously did) but also the demand for ever faster cards and higher framerates at increasing resolutions.
However, there's still plenty of affordable options available. You just have to wait a bit for a 2050 or 2060 to release if you want to jump on this train.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Rufus on August 20, 2018, 02:56:19 PM
1k series isn't going to drop at all unless retailers desperately need to clear shelves. They'll help justify the 2k series' prices.

If only AMD could compete... What were they thinking with Vega? Navi is going to have to be some kind of miracle architecture. :shaq2
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Tasty on August 20, 2018, 02:59:13 PM
Is 4K the limit? Or are some people going to convince themselves they need 8K or some shit.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on August 20, 2018, 02:59:30 PM
Pretty much what Nintex said. There is perfectly capable cheaper cards, but the demand for some to run games at crazy frame rates and resolutions is there and can't blame them for pushing for that. That combined with no real competiton and this is the prices we get.

and I will take it  :rejoice
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Nintex on August 20, 2018, 03:01:13 PM
Also Nvidia dropped some not so subtle hints that this is the sort of thing that will power the next generation of consoles.
There couldn't have been many people asking them how to turn that Quadro demo into technology viable for console. 

Microsoft has already adopted this in DirectX so it's just a question of time when the (Direct)Xbox is equipped with a chip like this.
The RTX on/off demonstration also reminded me of the Xbox One X Enhanced features. This is perfect for the multi-generation console market.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on August 20, 2018, 03:01:30 PM
Is 4K the limit? Or are some people going to convince themselves they need 8K or some shit.

Of course not, I mean there is already 5k monitors out there. But I think at 4k, the focus will be on getting some 4k 144hz monitors down cheap first. At least that is my hope.

Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Nintex on August 20, 2018, 03:03:48 PM
Is 4K the limit? Or are some people going to convince themselves they need 8K or some shit.

Of course not, I mean there is already 5k monitors out there. But I think at 4k, the focus will be on getting some 4k 144hz monitors down cheap first. At least that is my hope.
They highlighted a 8k port.

I wasn't convinced of 4k until I got my OLED 4K HDR equipped TV. And just wow.
Not sure what sort of difference 8k will make but it'll probably take about 5 years before that 'really' takes off.
After all adaptation of 4k has been rather slow and there's not that much 4k content either.

Gaming is a different beast though but outside of insane PC gaming setups I don't see it gain any traction anytime soon.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on August 20, 2018, 03:06:13 PM
Yeah won't be very soon for sure. But it will certainly come sometime down the road.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Tasty on August 20, 2018, 03:14:50 PM
Is 4K the limit? Or are some people going to convince themselves they need 8K or some shit.

Of course not, I mean there is already 5k monitors out there. But I think at 4k, the focus will be on getting some 4k 144hz monitors down cheap first. At least that is my hope.
They highlighted a 8k port.

I wasn't convinced of 4k until I got my OLED 4K HDR equipped TV. And just wow.
Not sure what sort of difference 8k will make but it'll probably take about 5 years before that 'really' takes off.
After all adaptation of 4k has been rather slow and there's not that much 4k content either.

Gaming is a different beast though but outside of insane PC gaming setups I don't see it gain any traction anytime soon.

4K -> 8K is really only physically perceptible on cinema screens. HDR and HFR might make more of a difference on computer monitors but we already have that tech for lower resolutions.

From what I can tell, while it'll probably be increased at some point, Hollywood seems to really be pinning everything on 8K (and has been for years.) Criterion-quality digital transfers of old film stock target anywhere between 4K and 8K, and 8K has become the standard for digital cinema cameras. (Red had a 4K trial run with the Red One, but has been full-steam on 8K since then.)

Watching resolutions higher than 1080p unfold across gaming has been interesting from a film perspective.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: kingv on August 20, 2018, 03:16:04 PM
what's with the batshit insane prices

ya they're more powerful but they also keep getting more expensive

why aren't more ppl noticing it

it's not just the bitcoin bullshit

they keep beefing it up, adding to the cost

it used to $200, $300, $400-$500

for 6 7 8 series

now it's gotten double that

end of moore's law is upon us brehs

I felt the same way when the 1070 came out. Everyone is like “OMG it’s 25% faster than 970” and I’m like “and it’s also 20% more expensive, so I’m not really all that amped”

It’s just to the point where $ per FPS or however you want to come up with s metric barely drops down each generation. Shit this time it might actually go up, because the 2070 is like a $120 more than a 1070 was at launch.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Nabbis on August 20, 2018, 03:16:35 PM
Also Nvidia dropped some not so subtle hints that this is the sort of thing that will power the next generation of consoles.
There couldn't have been many people asking them how to turn that Quadro demo into technology viable for console. 

Microsoft has already adopted this in DirectX so it's just a question of time when the (Direct)Xbox is equipped with a chip like this.
The RTX on/off demonstration also reminded me of the Xbox One X Enhanced features. This is perfect for the multi-generation console market.

I seriously doubt it will happen with Nvidia prices. Switch uses a shitty tegra1 for Gods sake.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 20, 2018, 03:19:26 PM
The cheaper prices at the end there is probably just a reference point. The founders edition pre-order pricing is setting the market for everything. This is the NewEgg search results for "rtx 2080" and the prices all pretty much mirror the FE.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=rtx+2080&ignorear=0&N=-1&isNodeId=1
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Tasty on August 20, 2018, 03:20:12 PM
Apparently VR needs 40K (yes, forty) in order to fully simulate reality (not to mention the HFR needs there too.)

But when we manage to make 40K displays 1-inch in size we should have Matrix jack-in tech by then anyways.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: kingv on August 20, 2018, 03:29:37 PM
Even on psvr, I never really felt that the ressolution was all that much of a detriment to the experience. It’s more about fidelity in other areas.

For me at least, resolution is one of those things that has diminishing returns. Even when comparing yakuza 6 and Yakuza 0 on pspro (0 is not pro enhanced)i don’t think the difference in resolution is all that noticeable. I notice the difference in frame rates and the environmental animations and stuff way more.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 21, 2018, 10:39:33 AM
Over the course of a day I've gone from pretty sure I'd get a 2080 ti to settling on a 2080 to now just pretty sure I'm gonna grab a 1080 ti for cheap. I'm relatively convinced the real jump in actual performance will come with 7nm cards next year and that this is just a cash grab by nvidia since it's been so long since they've released anything. Gonna wait to see actual performance specs of the 2080 vs. the 1080 ti in things games are actually doing now (you know, fps at 4k as opposed to all this ray tracing witchcraft mumbo jumbo)
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: kingv on August 21, 2018, 10:50:38 AM
In all honesty the ray tracing stuff is going to be mininmally important until every gpu under the sun and consoles can do it.

That’s how it always is with bleeding edge features.

Pour one out for physx!
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Nabbis on August 21, 2018, 12:40:58 PM
They put a shitload of silicon space for this and the visual impact is so poor. I wonder what's the long term strategy here or is it some vanity project for Jen-Hsun.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: El Babua on August 21, 2018, 02:35:17 PM
Preordered the 2080 yesterday cause I'm a GRAPHICS THOT

Also cause I've been sitting on this damn unfinished build for almost 2 years now :doge
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 21, 2018, 08:11:02 PM
looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia-rtx-2080-ti-hands-on

Quote
But still, it’s tough not to be a little concerned when the ultra-expensive, ultra-enthusiast RTX 2080 Ti isn’t able to hit 60fps at 1080p in Shadow of the Tomb Raider. We weren’t able to see what settings the game was running at as the options screens were cut down in the build we were capturing, but GeForce Experience was capturing at the game resolution and the RTX footage we have is 1080p.

Granted it's on early rtx builds of the game and early drivers for the 2080 ti but if I do decide to bite the bullet and get a 2080 I'll probably keep ray tracing turned the fuck off until it's stable.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Tasty on August 21, 2018, 08:12:50 PM
Quote
the ultra-expensive, ultra-enthusiast RTX 2080 Ti isn’t able to hit 60fps at 1080p in Shadow of the Tomb Raider.

(https://i.imgur.com/L71o0b5.gif)
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 21, 2018, 08:20:52 PM
To be clear it's not hitting it with ray tracing turned on. I'm sure just looking at the sheer horsepower of the thing it will absolutely murder Shadows of the Tomb Raider in 4k with ray tracing turned off.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: kingv on August 21, 2018, 08:59:54 PM
I’m starting to feel a bit more optimistic on skipping until 7nm.

Ray tracing is the new hairworks, (or whatever lame-o shit that was part of Arkham Knight... I think there was something with like paper flying around). Those features always seem to be like 1-2 gens ahead of the cards they’re being marketed with.

I’m definitely curious how the non ray tracing performance is. I feel like if it’s anything less than 50-60% it’s kind of a disappointment with the big price increases.

Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 22, 2018, 06:44:41 PM
Nvidia: *spends entire presentation talking about tech that very few games will use anytime soon*

Skeptical gamers: WTF WHERE IS DATA SHOWING INCREASE OVER PAST GEN

Nvidia: ugh fine you fucking babies here

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/08/22/nvidia-turing-rtx-2080-vs-gtx-1080-performance/

Apparently the 2080 (vanilla, not even ti!) shits all over present day and probably everything over the next year or two games in 4k. :doge GOOD JORB NVIDIA MAYBE THAT MIGHT HAVE WARRANTED A MENTION AMONG ALL YOUR RAY TRACING WITCHCRAFT HORSESHIT.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Nintex on August 22, 2018, 07:10:57 PM
Ray tracing is a massive game changer in terms of how reflections and lighting effects are handled.
The Battlefield V guys already got impressive results with just a rough implementation but 2019 games will look absolutely stunning.

The CEO got very technical though but I understand why he was excited it was a massive milestone for graphics technology.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: naff on August 22, 2018, 07:42:58 PM
what's with the batshit insane prices

ya they're more powerful but they also keep getting more expensive

why aren't more ppl noticing it

it's not just the bitcoin bullshit

they keep beefing it up, adding to the cost

it used to $200, $300, $400-$500

for 6 7 8 series

now it's gotten double that

end of moore's law is upon us brehs

GPU performance increase is still relatively linear

(https://i.imgur.com/eWaZniu.png)
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: naff on August 22, 2018, 07:50:43 PM
im yet to encounter anything that makes me want to upgrade frm an R9 280x running on a 1080p screen  :lol

edit: the thing that will eventually get me to upgrade will no doubt be VR. but i can't imagine devs leaving cards like the 280x behind for standard gaming for a long time yet. can't believe the 280x and 1050 ti's are still fetching teh prices they are. average 2nd hand ebay price (~170us) jk that was average March price. seems much lower now.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Rufus on August 22, 2018, 08:28:33 PM
im yet to encounter anything that makes me want to upgrade frm an R9 280x running on a 1080p screen  :lol
RIP my 280X :'(
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 22, 2018, 09:46:17 PM
Man, I'm running a 280x too. Such a good card. Was that the last time AMD made good cards? I dunno.

I wouldn't be fucking with upgrading if I hadn't decided it was time to build a new pc and been bitten by the 4k bug.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: naff on August 22, 2018, 10:30:36 PM
I would like one of those 21:9 ultrawide 3440 x 1440 monitors. might run ok with a couple 280x's crossfired  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Actual 4k seems far too expensive processing wise rn. 
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: kingv on August 22, 2018, 11:04:09 PM
If those numbers hold in benchmarks these might be pretty much worth it, though I still am pretty unenthusiastic enough about the pricing to just continue waiting.

At $350 I’d probably cop a 2070, but at $500 probably not.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 23, 2018, 10:37:10 AM
If those numbers hold in benchmarks these might be pretty much worth it, though I still am pretty unenthusiastic enough about the pricing to just continue waiting.

At $350 I’d probably cop a 2070, but at $500 probably not.

We're probably not even likely to see $500 2070s until well into next year considering the pricing of the 2080 and 2080 ti models so far, combined with the fact that the 2070 doesn't even have a release date yet (supposedly late October tho)

I'm skeptical of those numbers- "selected titles" and no 3rd party tests yet demands it. It all depends on the Turing architecture and if the witchcraft simultaneous processing is software or driver based. If it's driver based, great! It will affect everything. If it's software based... well, they did say "selected titles" so yeah... Although maybe it is driver based since the DLSS is only highlighted on certain titles in that chart to get those up to "2x faster" so at this point who fucking knows.

Nvidia has been squirrelly with this shit so far and until Gamer's Nexus boringly tests the new cards on about 500 current games I'm gonna stay skeptical.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Himu on August 23, 2018, 12:12:48 PM
so i should go with this laptop or just wait?

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Laptop-Intel-Graphics-Memory/dp/B0764HW117/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1535040568&sr=8-7&keywords=geforce+1060+laptop

not sure about the i5. Too weak? shouldn't I go for an i7?
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: kingv on August 23, 2018, 01:32:55 PM
If those numbers hold in benchmarks these might be pretty much worth it, though I still am pretty unenthusiastic enough about the pricing to just continue waiting.

At $350 I’d probably cop a 2070, but at $500 probably not.

We're probably not even likely to see $500 2070s until well into next year considering the pricing of the 2080 and 2080 ti models so far, combined with the fact that the 2070 doesn't even have a release date yet (supposedly late October tho)

I'm skeptical of those numbers- "selected titles" and no 3rd party tests yet demands it. It all depends on the Turing architecture and if the witchcraft simultaneous processing is software or driver based. If it's driver based, great! It will affect everything. If it's software based... well, they did say "selected titles" so yeah... Although maybe it is driver based since the DLSS is only highlighted on certain titles in that chart to get those up to "2x faster" so at this point who fucking knows.

Nvidia has been squirrelly with this shit so far and until Gamer's Nexus boringly tests the new cards on about 500 current games I'm gonna stay skeptical.

I basically agree.

And it remains to be seen what the 2070 will do for you. If you can’t hit 4k60 on medium settings or so, it’s hard to say it makes sense to buy over an X1X or a PS4Pro because you can get either of those for like $400 with a game included any given day.

The rayteacing does look really good on Battlefield, but I also feel like it’s one of those things where the flashiest bits of that (like fire reflecting off of cars) could theoretically be faked well enough to mitigate the quality gap.

MS and Sony were pretty smart to release those mid gen upgrades. A couple of years ago you could spend $800 on a computer and get something that just blows away a base PS4 or Xbox One in a very obvious way and get every game at 1080p60 with better settings. It’s not entirely clear that is the case anymore, because they do a pretty good job with HDR and higher resolutions too (albeit not at 4K).
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Nabbis on August 23, 2018, 02:45:18 PM
so i should go with this laptop or just wait?

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Laptop-Intel-Graphics-Memory/dp/B0764HW117/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1535040568&sr=8-7&keywords=geforce+1060+laptop

not sure about the i5. Too weak? shouldn't I go for an i7?

Eh, i dunno. 1060GTX is okay for a laptop and getting a 1070 for such a thin medium quality case would just bring the heat and fans to ridiculous levels. i7 would be better since laptop CPUs suck ass already. 6820hk(for example, overclock model of the 6700hq), would need to be overclocked to 4ghz if you want to match the performance of a 4770k at stock. You should look at the CPU benchmarks for that model but otherwise it's okay for gaming. Don't know how good the price is for US but here it would be a good buy. If possible you should add another 8gb of ram. Gsync would also be nice but i imagine the cost will be higher.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Himu on August 23, 2018, 02:50:55 PM
Should I just build a computer? Would it be cheaper? If so, how can I get started?
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Tasty on August 23, 2018, 02:59:56 PM
I'm buying a laptop this month so I can edit 5K vids in Premiere.

i7 Gen 8 and at least 16 GB are the keys for me (32 GB preferred.) Some of my "pie in the sky" candidate:

- Gigabyte Aero 15W v8-BK4 (i7-8750H, 32GB RAM, 512GB SATA SSD, GTX 1060 6GB, 15.6" Full HD 144Hz, Windows 10) (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CN77PCZ/?coliid=I2Y1C9VJY5WLYO&colid=8C4V1IVY6SHU&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it)

The more "budget" picks:

- Dell - Inspiron 2-in-1 13.3" Touch-Screen Laptop - Intel Core i7 - 16GB Memory - 256GB Solid State Drive (https://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-inspiron-2-in-1-13-3-touch-screen-laptop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-256gb-solid-state-drive-era-gray/6083540.p?skuId=6083540)
- Dell - Inspiron 15.6" Touch-Screen Laptop - Intel Core i7 - 32GB Memory - AMD Radeon 530 - 1TB Hard Drive (https://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-inspiron-15-6-touch-screen-laptop-intel-core-i7-32gb-memory-amd-radeon-530-1tb-hard-drive-platinum-silver/6265575.p?skuId=6265575)
- HP - ENVY x360 2-in-1 15.6" Touch-Screen Laptop - Intel Core i7 - 16GB Memory - 1TB Hard Drive (https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-envy-x360-2-in-1-15-6-touch-screen-laptop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive-natural-silver/6082000.p?skuId=6082000&ref_=lv_ov_lig_pab)

Sorta out of place here since I'm not too concerned with the actual GPU itself, but I figured I'd bring it up since there was a chance it could help you Cindi. :)

I wish non-touchscreen laptops were more prevalent, the cost savings are pretty sizable assuming other specs are the same, from what I've seen. NewEgg seems to have the best UI for filtering based on certain components, Amazon's is absolute shit.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Nabbis on August 23, 2018, 03:05:19 PM
Should I just build a computer? Would it be cheaper? If so, how can I get started?

You could try building something similar to this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078H7WQ8B/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1 and perhaps get a lower price? Though from my perspective that's ridiculously cheap already.

Generally, with similar or slightly better specs a self build PC would be cheaper compared to a laptop.

This seems the same but only cheaper? https://www.amazon.com/CyberpowerPC-SLC8760CPG-Supreme-Desktop-i7-8700K/dp/B075TL8VXD/ref=pd_sim_147_24?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B075TL8VXD&pd_rd_r=c5fbfc89-a709-11e8-bcdb-932140fb8169&pd_rd_w=ckoEf&pd_rd_wg=nh0a3&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=a180fdfb-b54e-4904-85ba-d852197d6c09&pf_rd_r=SRR3HA0GHC96KPXZMD02&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=SRR3HA0GHC96KPXZMD02

Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Himu on August 23, 2018, 03:06:37 PM
So I figure when it comes to things like video editing and animation CPU > GPU, right?
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Tasty on August 23, 2018, 03:08:04 PM
So I figure when it comes to things like video editing and animation CPU > GPU, right?

Yup. RAM is really important too.

GPU helps with things (especially After Effects) but CPU is really the key.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Himu on August 23, 2018, 03:12:34 PM
I figured cpu was more important but don’t know how important gpu is.

Thank you two
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: naff on August 23, 2018, 09:45:15 PM
MS and Sony were pretty smart to release those mid gen upgrades. A couple of years ago you could spend $800 on a computer and get something that just blows away a base PS4 or Xbox One in a very obvious way and get every game at 1080p60 with better settings. It’s not entirely clear that is the case anymore, because they do a pretty good job with HDR and higher resolutions too (albeit not at 4K).

i would love to see results of a double blind trial testing how many people accurately discern between 1440p/QHD and 2160p/4k on a 27" monitor by the same manufacturer (eg as close to the same colour gamut as possible) at a standard computer desk. same games, same settings, different res.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: kingv on August 23, 2018, 10:39:25 PM
I’m pretty sure I couldn’t tell. I can very barely tell the difference between 1080p and 4K but it’s nowhere near as much as some people say (at least to my old eyes)

I think my only hope would be the scaling might be weird for 1440p to a 4K monitor because it’s not an even number of difference in pixels.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: naff on August 23, 2018, 11:34:20 PM
yeah that's just science man. you'd need a large monitor, to be sitting v close and have incredible vision to discern between 1440 and 2160. 1440 does feel like a nice upgrade to me (I work on higher res monitors, 4k windows scaling sucks tho, kinda wish i just had 1440 now) but 4k requires over 2x the processing power again frm ur graphics card over 1440 (~4x v 1080) with dubious benefits. seems to me most people have pretty good colour distinction and would get much more out of a lower res panel with a focus on colour quality, smooth high frame rates (eg g or freesync monitors) and good contrast.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 28, 2018, 12:38:34 AM
Brehs we gotta talk about what the AIB partners are doing here

(https://i.imgur.com/sgwFkuJ.png)

YO DOG WE HEARD YOU LIKE HEATSINKS SO WE ADDED A HEATSINK TO YO HEATSINK

(http://s2.glbimg.com/VZqDTigIgzYlGXyZrWRLxWiwywU=/e.glbimg.com/og/ed/f/original/2014/04/14/stop.gif)
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: naff on August 28, 2018, 12:41:22 AM
Hot and thicc. Just how I like 'em.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 28, 2018, 12:53:50 AM
ugg how am I suppose to fit 4 of those into me? 
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 28, 2018, 01:07:52 AM
ugg how am I suppose to fit 4 of those into me?

Get real fat, then lose all the weight real quick and you'll have a bunch of gross loose skin. Problem solved!
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Tasty on August 28, 2018, 08:39:52 PM
Which one?

$1,599.00 - ASUS ROG STRIX GL503GE SCAR Edition (i7-8750H, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD + 1TB SSHD, NVIDIA GTX 1050Ti 4GB)  (https://www.amazon.com/GL503GE-i7-8750H-NVIDIA-1050Ti-Windows/dp/B07CSM2YHR)

$1,847.99 - Dell Laptop XPS 15 (i7-8750H, 32GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, NVIDIA GTX 1050Ti 4GB) (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIADYY81P4874)

Slightly more storage on the ASUS, but it's much uglier and is 1.7 pounds heavier. :thinking
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 28, 2018, 09:39:32 PM
Neither, get a Sager

(if it's a binary choice get the Dell I guess, whatever)
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: team filler on August 28, 2018, 09:49:09 PM
dell xps screens  :lawd
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Tasty on August 29, 2018, 01:06:53 PM
Sager looks pretty awesome. I think I'm in love with this one:

https://www.amazon.com/NP8955-Gaming-Display-i7-8750H-Windows/dp/B07CYHQYM7?th=1
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Himu on August 29, 2018, 01:17:01 PM
I wish I had your paycheck Tasty :-/

I’d like that but can’t afford it.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 29, 2018, 01:17:10 PM
Sager looks pretty awesome. I think I'm in love with this one:

https://www.amazon.com/NP8955-Gaming-Display-i7-8750H-Windows/dp/B07CYHQYM7?th=1

I (and other people, MAF and I think bork) can vouch for their quality. You might be able to get what you want cheaper by going direct through their site, not sure.

https://www.sagernotebook.com/home.php
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 29, 2018, 01:19:41 PM
tbh tho if you're serious about bang for your buck (and are primarily going to be using it as an editing station) there really is no reason not to build a desktop instead. You'll save hundreds of dollars and will be able to use larger (multiple) screens more easily. Yes you won't be able to spend hours editing your video projects in a fucking coffee shop but no one likes that person, and you'll be more productive doing it from home on a cheaper machine on larger screens. Bonus: get to work in your underwear or naked.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Rufus on August 29, 2018, 02:07:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kQ3l6wN6ns
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Brehvolution on August 29, 2018, 02:14:20 PM
Looks great, but BF combat is still trash. Spending 3 minutes running toward combat just to be shot by someone you never saw. Respawn, spend 3 more minutes running toward action. Rinse and repeat.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Tasty on August 29, 2018, 02:17:03 PM
I wish I had your paycheck Tasty :-/

I’d like that but can’t afford it.

I mean, I'll be paying it off for a couple weeks, haha. And I've been trying to save for it for a while.

Sager looks pretty awesome. I think I'm in love with this one:

https://www.amazon.com/NP8955-Gaming-Display-i7-8750H-Windows/dp/B07CYHQYM7?th=1

I (and other people, MAF and I think bork) can vouch for their quality. You might be able to get what you want cheaper by going direct through their site, not sure.

https://www.sagernotebook.com/home.php

I was there first, on their site the same model is $100 more lol.

tbh tho if you're serious about bang for your buck (and are primarily going to be using it as an editing station) there really is no reason not to build a desktop instead. You'll save hundreds of dollars and will be able to use larger (multiple) screens more easily. Yes you won't be able to spend hours editing your video projects in a fucking coffee shop but no one likes that person, and you'll be more productive doing it from home on a cheaper machine on larger screens. Bonus: get to work in your underwear or naked.

I don't want to get a desk and set that up, I barely even have the space for it. I'm good with laptops.

I've edited more than a few vids on various Amtrak trips and I enjoy that freedom.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Nabbis on August 29, 2018, 02:22:31 PM
Had a awesome gaming latop for two years, it's really not as comfortable as i imagined even when i travelled frequently and took it with me. Glad i sold it and bought nearly twice as powerful desktop.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Tasty on August 29, 2018, 02:23:44 PM
Well I also want to get the Pixelbook 2 for travel reasons lol. :P
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Tasty on September 04, 2018, 04:26:22 PM
https://www.amazon.com/VivoBook-Premium-i7-8550U-NanoEdge-Opearting/dp/B07GVT2HJN/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1535747644&sr=8-2&keywords=F510UF+32GB

(https://i.imgur.com/xj5419Hl.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/qLMJXRv.gif)

Plus I have $200 in Amazon credit. :lawd
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 04, 2018, 05:37:49 PM
That's not bad if you're going to use it primarily to edit. The GPU isn't the best for gaming, tho.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Tasty on September 04, 2018, 08:05:41 PM
That's not bad if you're going to use it primarily to edit. The GPU isn't the best for gaming, tho.

If I can run games from 3-4+ years ago on any setting I'd pretty pretty happy TBH. The most demanding PC game I play is Civ Beyond Earth. :lol

But if the capability is there, I'll use it.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 11, 2018, 10:24:41 AM
Hnnnnnnngggggggg

 :aah

Gonna build this thing today

(https://i.imgur.com/HY7uOj9.jpg)
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Nabbis on September 11, 2018, 10:33:39 AM
It's nice to see someone owning the same vacuum cleaner.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Brehvolution on September 11, 2018, 11:43:29 AM
That Ansel......

So hot right now
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Brehvolution on September 12, 2018, 09:12:35 AM
I would totally go back and play through Witcher 3 again on ultra with Hairworks on if I had that card.  :lawd
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Rufus on September 12, 2018, 09:55:33 AM
But only for the wolves. Geralt's hairworks locks look like noodles. :scust
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: kingv on September 12, 2018, 10:05:20 AM
Side effect of the mutations
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 12, 2018, 11:44:38 PM
Minesweeper is *LIT* on this fucker
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 14, 2018, 10:36:08 AM
Review NDA expires on 9/19 now, but the youtube tech world can talk about the architecture. Here's the 30 minute long clinical Turing architecture deep dive you'd expect from Gamer's Nexus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpTzkrBUnGo

And something more fun if you're into that sort of thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty9-esUG54A
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: El Babua on September 14, 2018, 11:26:26 PM
Credit card got charged this afternoon for my 2080. Hoping no delays for shipping  :doge
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 14, 2018, 11:44:25 PM
Credit card got charged this afternoon for my 2080. Hoping no delays for shipping  :doge

Did you get a founder's edition or an AIB card?
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: El Babua on September 15, 2018, 12:14:49 AM
Credit card got charged this afternoon for my 2080. Hoping no delays for shipping  :doge

Did you get a founder's edition or an AIB card?

Founder's Edition

Looks like NVIDIA did their own benchmarks and sent them out to reviewers

https://videocardz.com/77983/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-and-rtx-2080-official-performance-unveiled

Not too bad if it holds up. Trying to get 4K out of every game I play. Wouldn't mind resolution scaling if the games are too demanding as long as the new RTX AA tech is as good as it's hyped up to be.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 15, 2018, 01:30:40 AM
I'm still skeptical about how well the FE will handle heat. But we'll see in a few days.

Some people think that the DLSS (AI shit) will end up being more useful than ray tracing.

https://www.engadget.com/2018/09/14/nvidia-rtx-mesh-shaders-dlss-tensor-cores/
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 19, 2018, 10:17:03 AM
Haven't watched the GN video yet but looks like the 2080 is roughly equal to a 1080ti

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8KtOAw6HnI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUM_eINGUl4
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Rufus on September 19, 2018, 06:11:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpDG13PrNPg

2080Ti is a complete beast at 4K
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: brawndolicious on September 20, 2018, 09:14:16 AM
So right now, the 1080 series is a better value for the games currently out.

DLSS may make a significant difference but that will take some time before it's implemented and like-for-like  antialiasing performance benchmarks come out. It still remains to be seen how much of a performance hit ray tracing is but since it makes shadows darker, it probably won't appear in a competitive multiplayer game for several years.

I still can't understand why you have to pay 70% more than a 2 year old card to get 25% better performance. I get that 2080s have a lot more workstation capability than 1080s but why are gamers rushing to buy this?
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 20, 2018, 09:51:56 AM
So right now, the 1080 series is a better value for the games currently out.

DLSS may make a significant difference but that will take some time before it's implemented and like-for-like  antialiasing performance benchmarks come out. It still remains to be seen how much of a performance hit ray tracing is but since it makes shadows darker, it probably won't appear in a competitive multiplayer game for several years.

I still can't understand why you have to pay 70% more than a 2 year old card to get 25% better performance. I get that 2080s have a lot more workstation capability than 1080s but why are gamers rushing to buy this?

1. Because we're stupid (well not me I bought a 1080ti)
2. Because we just got done with the crypto boom
3. Because the market has been stagnant with no high end competition
4. Because we're stupid
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Nabbis on September 20, 2018, 10:17:37 AM
I honestly don't know a single person irl who buys the newest most expensive GPU. To be fair though, i only know like three people who buy that nerd crap anyway.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: kingv on September 20, 2018, 10:19:39 AM
 if you look st steam surveys, it’s a really small proportion they buy the 1080tis or even 1080s.

Usually it’s the 200-$250 GPUs that are highest on the charts.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 20, 2018, 02:00:16 PM
if you look st steam surveys, it’s a really small proportion they buy the 1080tis or even 1080s.

Usually it’s the 200-$250 GPUs that are highest on the charts.

Yeah it's mostly 1060s and RX 400 and 500 series cards, which tbh if all you wanna do is game in 1080p are perfectly fine.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: El Babua on September 21, 2018, 02:56:43 AM
So FedEx missed my delivery and I gotta wait another day for it to show. :/
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: kingv on September 21, 2018, 09:22:25 AM
if you look st steam surveys, it’s a really small proportion they buy the 1080tis or even 1080s.

Usually it’s the 200-$250 GPUs that are highest on the charts.

Yeah it's mostly 1060s and RX 400 and 500 series cards, which tbh if all you wanna do is game in 1080p are perfectly fine.

I double checked out of curiosity and the first 4 or 5 gpus were all 1060s or worse. And it was like 30% or so of steam.

1070 was around 4%

And 1080 between 1-2%

If you added it all up, it looks like onboard graphics would probably be close to the 1070 number.

The 1080ti type products are probably more of just a flagship to sell in the entry level stuff (and probably have crazy markup as well).
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: El Babua on September 26, 2018, 12:45:39 AM
Playing Witcher 3 at 4K 60FPS max details minus hairworks :lawd

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Could have probably gotten the same results from a 1080ti for a couple hundred less :doge
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Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: kingv on September 26, 2018, 10:53:25 AM
Non-replaceable batteries in laptops are a trashidea. It’s trash on MacBooks too, but at least I can go to the Apple store for those and get it replaced
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 26, 2018, 11:16:33 AM
Playing Witcher 3 at 4K 60FPS max details minus hairworks :lawd

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Could have probably gotten the same results from a 1080ti for a couple hundred less :doge
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Can confirm. I left hairworks on tho. Spoiler cause huge f'n image

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(https://i.imgur.com/o9LDDzq.jpg)
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Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Brehvolution on September 26, 2018, 01:59:57 PM
:noah
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 26, 2018, 03:21:59 PM
I kinda wanna start a new Witcher 3 playthrough. But I might do a new RE4 playthrough with the HD pack installed, tho it's not gonna look as awesome as newer shit even with the HD pack.

I played an hour or two of Deus Ex Mankind Divided and it's very gorgeous in 4K on ultra (duh) but it runs at sub 60fps on my 1080ti. Also, I just don't like the Deus Ex games that much. The setting is super fun but I just generally don't like stealth in games, and this implementation of it in particular I've never warmed to.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: kingv on October 16, 2018, 09:45:48 PM
Reading the 2070 reviews, and imo Nvidia is crazy with this pricing.

A nominally $499 card, that will realistically cost $600 and basically is neck and neck with a GTX 1080, which was also a $600 card.

I’m not exactly sure how they flesh out the line from here... a 2060 that performs like a 1070 but retails for $400?

 

Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Rufus on October 17, 2018, 06:11:34 AM
AMD is hopefully going to have something that competes in that range, so a 2060 might 'only' be 300$. :shaq2
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: headwalk on October 17, 2018, 06:49:32 AM
i wish CUDA wasn't a thing so i could just fuck nvidia off. getting a gsync monitor too soon so that'll be me doubly locked in. cunts.

will probably get a 1080ti on the "cheap" if i see a deal.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Himu on October 17, 2018, 09:50:49 AM
Any 2000 series laptops out yet
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: Rufus on October 17, 2018, 03:51:12 PM
Nope
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: naff on October 30, 2018, 02:24:11 AM
Got a 1070 on the cheap. Anyone play with G-Sync and if so what are your thoughts? Would love to just go AMD because i love the idea of free and g-sync, and the freesync implementation is quite nice (read: cheap and relatively open), but i couldnt find any deals on the RX Vega comparable to the cut rate 1070. V keen on a new 1440p 120-144hz monitor. Will be following AMDs new 7nm cards closely if the g-sync monitors stay so sparse and expensive.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: kingv on January 29, 2019, 12:02:13 AM
Sort of thinking about picking up a used 1070 now. Seeing them on eBay for like $250 or so.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: naff on January 29, 2019, 06:02:51 PM
great card if you dont care for 4k
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: kingv on January 29, 2019, 10:35:37 PM
Should be solid for 1440p though, right?

My bigger issue is I have two monitors 1 4K, 1 1080P.

For 1080P gaming, honestly, I’m still pretty satisfied with the 970. And I don’t think that 1440p will scale up well to 4K because it’s not a multiple of 4.

So maybe the answer is... just continue to wait.
Title: Re: New nvidia gpu watch
Post by: naff on January 30, 2019, 04:36:38 PM
yeah, it's p much designed for 1440p. it'll run a lot of stuff at 30fps at 4k. i think 4k is a trap for gaming mostly. i have a 4k and 1440p monitor at home. higher framerate >>>>> higher resolution. i can barely tell the difference in games above 1440p. i think it's because im not glued to my monitor, and textures and geometry in games is still not detailed enough for 1440 -> 2160 to make a noticeable difference, but incurs a ridiculous additional processing cost.