THE BORE
General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: D3RANG3D on September 19, 2018, 05:25:56 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl2h8LDq_oI
FF7
Wild Arms
Tekken 3
Ridge Racer Type 4
Jumping Flash
Revealed so far as games available.
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No analogue sticks? Sony pls.
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Only 20 games in the og selection? :hhh 15 spots left and even if I boil it down to the absolute basics, I would already need to give 5 spots to games by Capcom, Konami and Squaresoft each. And one spot for JRPGs is already taken by Wild Arms of all games? That final selection will be a mess.
Also no analogue sticks, come one now.
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One thing that interests me is what they're doing in terms of graphics options.
I expect a CRT filter and at least bilinear texture filtering like the PS2 could do, but what else? Are they going to do perspective correction so the textures don't warp? Increase rendering resolution? Anti-aliasing? 🤔
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The cartoon filter that looks awful for 2D games works much better for prerendered backgrounds. I've seen some "impressive" screens of RE2 with it somewhere.
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Let me play the damn games on the PS4 you piece of shit company.
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I love me some Playstation, but this isn't as exciting an announcement as the NES Classic was. I dunno. Need to see what the other games are first, I guess.
One thing that interests me is what they're doing in terms of graphics options.
I expect a CRT filter and at least bilinear texture filtering like the PS2 could do, but what else? Are they going to do perspective correction so the textures don't warp? Increase rendering resolution? Anti-aliasing? 🤔
I don't expect any filters. :doge
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45% smaller.
"Go on..."
Virtual Discs.
"Ok, I'm out."
What's the damn point if it's not going to be able to run my discs? HDMI output is nice, controller "replicas" is nice. But if it can't use my controllers from the original, why would I use it over my phone/etc. that is able to emulate?
Seems like it's trying to copy the NES, but like the NES it's worthless for those of us that just use a Raspberry Pi/et. al. for ROMs.
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ePSXe FTW
That program works like crap for me. I tried SOTN because I dont like the XBO port that much, and wanted to play the psx original.
But I get slowdown all the time and it seems unresponsive. I tried PPSSPP and just used the Dracula X rondo game to get to SOTN unlock instead. But that version Alucard sounds like a little bitch..what the hell did they do to his voice?
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Removed RGT vid because he's a tool
I'm already standing in line
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I didn't even think about how this probably means them continuing to be complete bitches about BC. Hopes for PS5 decreasing.
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I would assume PS5 is at least BC with PS4, but anything before that you're gonna be shit outta luck
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If they announced Alundra and SotN... I'd bite.
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Let me play the damn games on the PS4 you piece of shit company.
https://twitter.com/xboxuk/status/1042353577744916480
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It only happens when a product is losing. :fbm
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If they announced Alundra and SotN... I'd bite.
SoTN I can see. Alundra seems doubtful. But if I want to play SoTN, I'd rather get the SoTN/Rondo collection that Konami is going to be releasing for PS4 instead so I can play the game at 1080P (and hopefully 4K).
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Preorder available on Best Buy and GameStop right now
Pics
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1042294414016602112
Specs
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DncGdenU4AAkw2Z.jpg:large)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DncGdenU4AAkw2Z.jpg:large
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ePSXe FTW
ePSXe is trash, Beetle is a libretto(retroarch) core that is much better.
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No analogue sticks? Sony pls.
No Ape Escape then :goty2
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No analogue sticks? Sony pls.
They're not even including an AC adapter.
:cmonson
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I like it, but also still have all those games (a lot I probably double dipped digitally as well I would guess) so not super interested. These mini systems are neatish, but would much rather if they just threw emus on the current systems.
All that said I am probably getting one of these for xmas, I see it now. :goty
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Let's get down to brass tax here... How hackable is it?
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Let's get down to brass tax here... How hackable is it?
Can't believe Sony didn't give us those details! :doge :P
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Let me play the damn games on the PS4 you piece of shit company.
yep. i can almost excuse nintendo for not just releasing their games on the console cause they are idiots when it comes to online/digital anything but sony should just let me play the games i already bought years ago on ps3
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Let me play the damn games on the PS4 you piece of shit company.
yep. i can almost excuse nintendo for not just releasing their games on the console cause they are idiots when it comes to online/digital anything but sony should just let me play the games i already bought years ago on ps3
Also different game formats, so whatever. But Sony's entire history is disc based, so let me just pop my fucking games in and play. I'm currently using my PS3 for PS1 games, which is I guess still okay. But it's going to be annoying going another generation forward without the ability to use a PS emulator that costs them nothing.
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The lack of analog sticks is baffling. Did they forget psx had analog sticks? So no Ape Escpae?
Also these clips look like shit. NES and SNES classic look amazing on hdmi. They didn’t smooth out anything?! Also Wild Arms? Lmao. And 100 dollars?
Psx is one of my favorite systems but this a pass for me. That box does get me nostalgic tho. Ps2 classic WHEN.
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Let me play the damn games on the PS4 you piece of shit company.
yep. i can almost excuse nintendo for not just releasing their games on the console cause they are idiots when it comes to online/digital anything but sony should just let me play the games i already bought years ago on ps3
Also different game formats, so whatever. But Sony's entire history is disc based, so let me just pop my fucking games in and play. I'm currently using my PS3 for PS1 games, which is I guess still okay. But it's going to be annoying going another generation forward without the ability to use a PS emulator that costs them nothing.
Yeah I have to have a ps3 hooked up for ps1 games and it’s ridiculous because I hate turning the thing on.
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They probably stuck a PSTV in a Playstation shell and that's probably as far as they went. If you guys don't remember what the PSTV was, it's basically a Vita for home. Can play digital PS1 games, PSP games, Vita games.
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no analog sucks means no mgs means lol. ps1 biggest years were after the dualshock so wtf?
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Yes and mgs used dpad too
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ah right I forgot it wasn't required, just added a lot of extra bonuses
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Amazon link, just pre-ordered here as well as Best Buy
https://amzn.to/2MLPpFq
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I read this is in limited supply.
Sony stealing Nintendo's innovations again!
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Let's get down to brass tax here... How hackable is it?
Depends on what hardware they're using. Old, flush Sony would have been crazy enough to recreate the entire thing as an SoC. One can dream.
They probably stuck a PSTV in a Playstation shell and that's probably as far as they went. If you guys don't remember what the PSTV was, it's basically a Vita for home. Can play digital PS1 games, PSP games, Vita games.
Or that!
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They probably stuck a PSTV in a Playstation shell and that's probably as far as they went. If you guys don't remember what the PSTV was, it's basically a Vita for home. Can play digital PS1 games, PSP games, Vita games.
The PSTV can do 1080i, though... :thinking
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I already have a PS3.
I think only a mini PS2 would really get me excited for nostalgia.
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Are they going to do perspective correction so the textures don't warp?
This is the one thing you can't do with PS1 games if you're using the original game, you have to change the math in the GTE-related code. When you're emulating it you can't just fix it because you'd have to fix every single vertices and know how wrong they are and what the frame is supposed to look like so as how to fix them.
One bad thing about that generation is how ugly everything is when you draw it at higher resolutions due to the various quirks like this. And there's no fixing it for any of the platforms.
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will it have a screen?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/97/Sony-PSone-Console-wScreen-Open-FL.jpg/200px-Sony-PSone-Console-wScreen-Open-FL.jpg)
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Nintendo shits out a nes mini and people go apeshit
Now you people complain
Psx had analog sticks laaaate into its life, those golden years were analogless, I never had analogs for my psx
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Are they going to do perspective correction so the textures don't warp?
This is the one thing you can't do with PS1 games if you're using the original game, you have to change the math in the GTE-related code. When you're emulating it you can't just fix it because you'd have to fix every single vertices and know how wrong they are and what the frame is supposed to look like so as how to fix them.
One bad thing about that generation is how ugly everything is when you draw it at higher resolutions due to the various quirks like this. And there's no fixing it for any of the platforms.
There is PGXP (also available in libretro's beetle-psx-hw):
https://www.ngemu.com/threads/pcsxr-pgxp.186369/
It can work wonders, but it's not perfect:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC4OwvK0hcM
Even better comparison:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oBeO-cui_c
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Psx had analog sticks laaaate into its life, those golden years were analogless, I never had analogs for my psx
The PS1 came out in Japan at the end of '94. Released in the rest of the world in Fall '95. The first dual analog controller (didn't have rumble) was shown in 1996 and came out in April 1997. Not exactly late in its life. Then there were other games, like R4, announced for this thing, that had their own controllers made for analog control. Tekken 3 had a dual shock controller bundle when it first came out in Japan. It was a big thing.
:ufup :expert
It's also just fucking stupid to not have dual analog controllers -it stops some games from playing as well as could have- and it means some games won't be included like Ape Escape.
Now watch Sony try to cash in on this by selling dual shocks for it separately. :doge
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There is PGXP (also available in libretro's beetle-psx-hw):
https://www.ngemu.com/threads/pcsxr-pgxp.186369/
well, i'll be, i knew emulators were correcting the texture placement from affline some time ago, but they couldn't stop the "swimming" without tons of errors, but that is pretty fancy, the TR one especially
very cool to take the vertex data, skip emulating the GTE and just send it to the GPU since they now have unlimited power and draw with that
All the triangles are being transformed but the low precision results in many vertices of small triangles getting the same position. This causes those triangles to collapse into lines or points, becoming degenerate, with an area of zero.
You can see this happening in the image where groups of small triangles form simple squares, two or three triangles stretch as their vertices snap to the same few points while other triangles disappear altogether.
The PlayStation's GTE has a function to cull these degenerate triangles called NCLIP which also removes triangles that are facing away from the viewer (back-face culling). As PGXP calculates and stores vertices in high precision the implicit simplification doesn't happen but the default NCLIP behaviour still results in small triangles, that would have become degenerate, being culled. This is because the emulated game expects a low precision integer value which will be truncated to 0 for many small triangles.
To solve this PGXP calculates its own NCLIP result in high precision and then intentionally skews the results so that values that would become 0 are now rounded up to 1 or -1 before passing it back to the emulator. So technically, rather than creating more triangles from a mesh, it is preserving existing triangles that would otherwise be simplified out.
There are two main reasons for the jitter seen on PS1 games:
Lack of floating point support on any of the PS1 hardware, meaning vertex positions are stored and modified using fixed point values and arithmetic. The resulting lack of precision causes 3D geometry to jitter and distort as vertices visibly snap between positions instead of moving smoothly.
Lack of perspective correct texturing, which requires vertices to have a valid W component, meaning all textures use affine sampling. This causes textures on 3D models to become increasingly warped as primitives stretch into the distance.
When a game was developed for the PlayStation there would be no floating point values or operations in the code at all, meaning that if the developer wanted to add support in the PC port (or Dreamcast, N64, etc.) they'd need to rewrite all the fixed point arithmetic and values as floating point. If they didn't then the port would suffer the exact same graphical issues as the PS1 version. The developers who ported MGS, Tomb Raider, FF7 and similar games obviously did this, and also added support for full 3D geometry with depth and perspective correction.
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I am kind of interested in what other games they throw on there.
Generally pessimistic, my bet is on first party trash like Syphon Filter, Jet Moto, Legend of Dragoon, etc. Would like to be wrong tho, there is so much potential.
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So.... have they not revealed all 20 games yet?? Are they being serious? LOL at whomever pre-ordered this not knowing, if so.
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Why LOL? The 5 games they showed already are worth the price of admission. Rest is bonus
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Couldn’t give less of a fuck about PSX but would totally bite for as PS2 version as I was a whiny gamecube stan and never got to play katamari
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Why LOL? The 5 games they showed already are worth the price of admission. Rest is bonus
Even if they were Mary-Kate & Ashley: Magical Mystery Mall, Star Wars: Masters Of Teräs Käsi, The Crow: City Of Angels, Mortal Kombat: Special Forces, Barbie: Explorer and Bubsy 3D amongst other choicest of nugz? :doge Just saying, it's stupid that they have to be so cryptic about the remaining 75% of the games it's supposedly coming with. Only pseudo-justifiable reason would be for licensing issues... if so, it should've been delayed until confirmed.
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Couldn’t give less of a fuck about PSX but would totally bite for as PS2 version as I was a whiny gamecube stan and never got to play katamari
Better version of Katamari is coming to Switch soon. :)
https://youtu.be/AsJyVsQNJUg
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(https://i.imgur.com/YCunC5o.jpg)
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Looks like a complete waste of money for me, I already have a Vita and PS TV.
That's a no for me, Sony (unless you include some gems not available on PSN already, like Brave Fencer Musashi and Einhander).
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No analogue sticks? Sony pls.
The lack of analog sticks is baffling. Did they forget psx had analog sticks? So no Ape Escpae?
Also these clips look like shit. NES and SNES classic look amazing on hdmi. They didn’t smooth out anything?! Also Wild Arms? Lmao. And 100 dollars?
Psx is one of my favorite systems but this a pass for me. That box does get me nostalgic tho. Ps2 classic WHEN.
There just weren't that many games which supported the first analog controller. You're looking at adding a tremendous cost of goods for a control scheme that they can literally plan their library around.
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https://blog.us.playstation.com/2018/10/29/announcing-playstation-classics-full-lineup-of-20-games/
ehhhh. I hope it's easily hackable.
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Full game list reveal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88ACUOvfDEw
Credit to jad7845 on Reddit for posting the text version:
Grand Theft Auto
Battle Arena Toshinden
Ridge Racer Type 4
Mr Driller
Metal Gear Solid
Twisted Metal
Oddworld: Abe’s Oddysee
Syphon Filter
Rayman
Tekken 3
Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six
Wild Arms
Jumping Flash!
Cool Boarders 2
Final Fantasy VII
Destruction Derby
Revelations: Persona
Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo
Intelligent Qube
Resident Evil Director’s Cut
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Persona wasn't on my radar at all, but I guess the newer games being successful earned it the spot.
Would have preferred Kula World over Intelligent Qube and Abe's Exoddus over Abe's Oddysee, but it's a decent list overall.
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Good solid list. Persona is a huge surprise but LOL its so obtuse with its bad translation rip
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The Japanese list is WAY better
Arc the Lad
Arc the Lad 2
Armored Core
Ridge Racer Type 4
Intelligent Qube
Gradius Gaiden
XI [sái]
SaGa Frontier
G Darius
Jumping Flash
Super Puzzle Fighter IIX
Tekken 3
Toshinden
Biohazard (RE1) Director's Cut
Parasite Eve
Final Fantasy VII International
Mr. Driller
Persona 1
Metal Gear Solid
Wild Arms
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For some reason the first playstation always looked like a Japanese tech toilet to me... So ugly.
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Grand Theft Auto
Battle Arena Toshinden
Ridge Racer Type 4
Mr Driller
Metal Gear Solid
Twisted Metal
Oddworld: Abe’s Oddysee
Syphon Filter
Rayman
Tekken 3
Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six
Wild Arms
Jumping Flash!
Cool Boarders 2
Final Fantasy VII
Destruction Derby
Revelations: Persona
Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo
Intelligent Qube
Resident Evil Director’s Cut
how about you go ahead and take that garbage Rainbow Six In Name Only mess off there and put Twisted Metal 2, you know, the classic one, on there
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Lineup is the same as the shit I see on CraigsList. All common games and that ONE hard to find game (Persona) hoping you'll buy it all in one swoop
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That NA line up is pretty damn lame. Where's Syphon Filter? Front Mission 3? Tony Hawk pro Skater 2? Vagrant Story?!
The PS1 has a really fucking good library and of course Sony shits the bed gathering any of them together.
Syphon Filter is there, my bad, eyes are crusty. Point still stands. Rainbow Six should get kicked the fuck out.
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Seems to be including games that arent available to purchase at all on PSN. Or just games that ARE supported but not released (since it is probably using the PS1 emulator they have)
Not on PSN/PSP/Vita:
Tekken 3
Revelations: Persona
Available on PSN/PSP/Vita:
Grand Theft Auto (JPN only)
Battle Arena Toshinden (JPN only)
Ridge Raceer Type 4
Mr. Driller
Metal Gear Solid
Twisted Metal
Oddworld: Abe’s Oddysee
Syphon Filter
Rayman
Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six
Wild Arms
Jumping Flash!
Cool Boarders 2
Final Fantasy VII
Destruction Derby
Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo (JPN only)
Intelligent Qube (JPN only)
Resident Evil Director’s Cut
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The Japanese list is WAY better
Arc the Lad
Arc the Lad 2
Armored Core
Ridge Racer Type 4
Intelligent Qube
Gradius Gaiden
XI [sái]
SaGa Frontier
G Darius
Jumping Flash
Super Puzzle Fighter IIX
Tekken 3
Toshinden
Biohazard (RE1) Director's Cut
Parasite Eve
Final Fantasy VII International
Mr. Driller
Persona 1
Metal Gear Solid
Wild Arms
Damn, that list shits all over the American one. What's XI?
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Metal Gear Solid
Syphon Filter
Dino Crisis
Parasite Eve
Front Mission 3
Parappa the rapper
Twisted Metal 2
Final Fantasy VII
THPS2
Tekken 3
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Vagrant Story
Persona 2
Final Fantasy Tactics
Chrono Cross
Bushido Blade 2
Oddworld: Abe’s Oddysee
Intelligent Qube
Tenchu
Resident Evil 2
What should've been the actual list.
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Damn, that list shits all over the American one. What's XI?
Devil Dice
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When they revealed the og 5 titles on it, it was pretty clear that this would be an embarassment. Actually, there's more big IPs than I expected (though still missing tons of titles that are more necessary than Wild Arms and Cool Boarders) - however, for the big gets they also seemingly chose the inferior entries all the time (GTA, RE, Persona,...).
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Looks like a good list to me but I'm a filthy PS normie.
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I dont think its a terrible lineup but considering the other choices out there there has to be some weird licensing issue for whatever reason...... on sony products
Like, parasite eve for JP but not NA?
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Looks like a good list to me but I'm a filthy PS normie.
It's not terrible like demi said, but there's some glaring omissions here. Like...Rainbow Six over Castlevania Symphony Of The Night? No Wipeout? No Tenchu?
:nope
Licensing issues have got to be part of the problem. Maybe what stopped games like Gran Turismo and Tony Hawk'd Pro Skater from being included. At least put in Motor Toon Grand Prix. :'(
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Lmao sony
I’ll continue running the ol ps2 through component for ps1 action instead.
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Gta2 > gta1
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Lmao sony
I’ll continue running the ol ps2 through component for ps1 action instead.
There's a cheap HDMI cable that's about to come out for PS2, too. It's not the best and doesn't offer progressive scan though. I'm probably going to end up getting one of those $100 Retrotink 2X upscalers.
Gta2 > gta1
Right?? Why would they go with GTA1 over GTA2 and Twisted Metal over Twisted Metal 2 for that matter?
:mindblown
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To give Nintendo’s credit, because they’ve done so many collections and virtual console stuff they know what players consider is good. This is Sony’s first ever compilation of games like this. In the past they just dumped the games on psn so they don’t know what’s good.
I doubt ps1’s capability of looking good on hdmi. But eh. Component works for that system very well.
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Also I can’t believe they made this without ape escape. Sony is dumb. Psx has analog sticks most of its life. Lmao
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To give Nintendo’s credit, because they’ve done so many collections and virtual console stuff they know what players consider is good. This is Sony’s first ever compilation of games like this. In the past they just dumped the games on psn so they don’t know what’s good.
I doubt ps1’s capability of looking good on hdmi. But eh. Component works for that system very well.
Don't think you need to be a rocket scientist to take a look at the most popular games on the system and make a compilation out of it. There's some top selling games that didn't make it in and it's a bit of a head-scratcher. Tomb Raider is another game that comes to mind.
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Let's put a positive spin on this- Sony is saving you $99!
:rejoice
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Wasn’t going to get it for 99 anyways
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One of the GOAT libraries was basically wasted on something NES Mini-tier, instead of channeling SNES Mini, which did surprisingly well with its 20 spots (though in both cases it's still way too few). I wanted to be edgy and get Jumping Flash used, since this is the thing that would interest me the most. But that shit goes for like 60€ :crazy
Right?? Why would they go with GTA1 over GTA2 and Twisted Metal over Twisted Metal 2 for that matter?
:mindblown
This would feel much better if it had Resident Evil 2, GTA 2, Twisted Metal 2, Persona 2...
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The 2’s of that era :drakeok
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One of the GOAT libraries was basically wasted on something NES Mini-tier, instead of channeling SNES Mini, which did surprisingly well with its 20 spots (though in both cases it's still way too few). I wanted to be edgy and get Jumping Flash used, since this is the thing that would interest me the most. But that shit goes for like 60€ :crazy
Right?? Why would they go with GTA1 over GTA2 and Twisted Metal over Twisted Metal 2 for that matter?
:mindblown
This would feel much better if it had Resident Evil 2, GTA 2, Twisted Metal 2, Persona 2...
Just get the Japanese version of Jumping Flash! 2. It includes the original game for free.
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PSTV really does seem like the better deal, as long as the service works.
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"There's a system out there for the people who truly want to create their own PlayStation Classics. It's called the Vita" - Don Mattrick, somewhere
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My list.
I’d put in dual shock 1’s and expand the list.
Arc the Lad
Armored Core
Ridge Racer Type 4
GTA2
Intelligent Qube
Crash Bandicoot 2
Medievil
G Darius
Devil Dice
Ore no Ryouri translated into English
Jet Moto 2
Ray Storm
Sled Storm
Bust A Groove
Soul Reaver
Ape Escape
Jumping Flash
Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo
Tekken 3
Toshinden
Resident Evil Director's Cut
Resident Evil 2
Resident Evil 3
Parasite Eve
Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 2
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy Tactics
Mr. Driller
Persona 2 EP
Metal Gear Solid
Wild Arms
Suikoden 1
Suikoden II
Parappa the Rapper
Wipeout XL
Ace Combat 2
Spyro 1
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PSTV really does seem like the better deal, as long as the service works.
You'd have to spend more to buy a memory card and a controller, but yeah. Haven't looked into homebrew in a long time but pretty sure you can install whatever games you want on it now.
Am still hoping for someone to announce that the PS1 Classic is just a repurposed PSTV in a new shell and easily hacked. :P
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Jet Moto 2
Jet Moto 1 was light years better than 2. Part 2 was total trash.
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Would have been great to have had something released with the system that never got an English release prior, like the Sony equivalent to Nintendo including Starfox 2 with the SNES Classic Mini. First thing that comes to mind is Tobal 2. Number two would be Slap Happy Rhythm Busters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy7UgXo9RoY
:lawd
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Jet Moto 2
Jet Moto 1 was light years better than 2. Part 2 was total trash.
Oh. It’s been a while. Thanks for the correction.
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lol $100 for that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahCgADqInX8
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Street Fighter Tetris :confused There's already Mr. Driller and Intelligent Cube, so why that over real Street Fighter, or Dino Crisis, Tomba, Strider 2...
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Street Fighter Tetris :confused There's already Mr. Driller and Intelligent Cube, so why that over real Street Fighter, or Dino Crisis, Tomba, Strider 2...
It’s a classic. The only street fighter on psx worth putting on it is Alpha 3. I love alpha 2 but the psx version sucks and has long load times. There’s too many good ps1 games.
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Not a bad list for the Western release, but there's so many great games that get left off when there's only space for 20 games.
Also, no Tony Hawk? Come on, fam.
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Not a bad list for the Western release, but there's so many great games that get left off when there's only space for 20 games.
Also, no Tony Hawk? Come on, fam.
I could at least understand Tony Hawk due to the soundtrack licensing...
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That NA line up is pretty damn lame. Where's Syphon Filter? Front Mission 3? Tony Hawk pro Skater 2? Vagrant Story?!
The PS1 has a really fucking good library and of course Sony shits the bed gathering any of them together.
Syphon Filter is there, my bad, eyes are crusty. Point still stands. Rainbow Six should get kicked the fuck out.
I dunno. Metal Gear Solid, Coolboarders 2 (can understand why people wouldn't be jazzed about this, but I am personally), Wild Arms, Final Fantasy 7, Ridge Racer Type 4, Intelligent Qube (this is the WTF of the list, but I love it, played the shit out of the demo), Tekken 3, Super Puzzle Fighter Turbo, Biohazard/Resident Evil: Director's Cut and Rayman are all solid/classics.
There's a few clunkers (GTA isn't as good as GTA2 IMO, and this doesn't include the 1969 expansion), Persona (WTF, you can play the PSP retranslation on a goddamn phone if not your goddamn PSP. This TERRIBLE translation is there for JRPG fans that don't want FF7 and Wild Arms? REALLY?). But that list is mostly solid for the US.
The only thing I'd want from Japan is Armored Core and Parasite Eve. But you can't get them all. :/
I'd still say to get a Raspberry Pi, like I have for all these mini-consoles that are limited in their selection.
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I’d suck a big fat dick to get intelligent qube in the US version.
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I’d suck a big fat dick to get intelligent qube in the US version.
You're in luck it's in the US version. ;)
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Whose dick did you suck to make it happen?
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Whose dick did you suck to make it happen?
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I'd dump GTA, Wild Arms and Rainbow Six at least. Would love to see Tombi, Wipeout and Alundra. Buying on the assumption it will be hackable. Don't care for SPF2 or Mr Driller either. Hard af to get a satisfying 20, but there's a fair few filler slots here. Really surprised the only popular adventure platformer that makes the list is Rayman (oops and Oddworld. Yeah I guess they're prob most popular/had the highest sales? Idk eh). Would pass on that every time for Klonoa DTP, Tombi 1, Pandemonium, Heart of Darkness or Castlevania SOTN.
I really liked GTA at the time when I didn't know better, and it would prob be regarded more fondly if it had analogue top down shooter controls, but the tank controls designed for the pre analogue era are beyond frustrating.
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Gta2 > gta1
Lol no
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"There's a system out there for the people who truly want to create their own PlayStation Classics. It's called the Vita" - Don Mattrick, somewhere
For me it's the PS3.
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Like, can we take a look at this shit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfmfDlhSp9I
You can't/don't assign tasks to your teammates, there's no preplanning other than the entry point, it's just a god awful framerate PS1 FPS where you can hop into the other members if you die.
If they wanted a FPS, put fucking Medal of Honor on here. Or Disruptor! (And then hide PO'ed! somewhere.)
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I'm sorry Mr. Clancy, I'm just more upset how Twisted Metal 2 isn't on there.
Also I was never going to buy this anyway, so my ANGER IS EXTRA IMPORTANT AND RELEVANT!
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Medal of Honor was the shit.
And Lager you’re wrong. Gta2 >>>> 1
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That NA line up is pretty damn lame. Where's Syphon Filter? Front Mission 3? Tony Hawk pro Skater 2? Vagrant Story?!
The PS1 has a really fucking good library and of course Sony shits the bed gathering any of them together.
Syphon Filter is there, my bad, eyes are crusty. Point still stands. Rainbow Six should get kicked the fuck out.
I dunno. Metal Gear Solid, Coolboarders 2 (can understand why people wouldn't be jazzed about this, but I am personally), Wild Arms, Final Fantasy 7, Ridge Racer Type 4, Intelligent Qube (this is the WTF of the list, but I love it, played the shit out of the demo), Tekken 3, Super Puzzle Fighter Turbo, Biohazard/Resident Evil: Director's Cut and Rayman are all solid/classics.
There's a few clunkers (GTA isn't as good as GTA2 IMO, and this doesn't include the 1969 expansion), Persona (WTF, you can play the PSP retranslation on a goddamn phone if not your goddamn PSP. This TERRIBLE translation is there for JRPG fans that don't want FF7 and Wild Arms? REALLY?). But that list is mostly solid for the US.
The only thing I'd want from Japan is Armored Core and Parasite Eve. But you can't get them all. :/
I'd still say to get a Raspberry Pi, like I have for all these mini-consoles that are limited in their selection.
It's okay, but not adequate if you're doing just 20 games. It's as if SNES Mini got Breath of Fire instead of FF6 and Actraiser 2 over Castlevania. Some might actually prefer the former and there's now more games on this thing that I don't own yet, but you still gotta cover the basics/big hitters/really seldom classics if you want that 80-100$ pull.
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Also I can’t believe they made this without ape escape. Sony is dumb. Psx has analog sticks most of its life. Lmao
Playstation — December 3, 1994
Dual Analog Controller — April 25, 1997
Playstation 2 — March 4, 2000
Your nostalgia or anecdotal experience isn't serving you well, here.
That's about half it's life. A bit less if you count to the introduction of the PS2. You could readily argue that the PS1 had legs beyond introduction of the PS2, but most publishers jumped ship to that new console with alacrity.
Most games didn't use them. Making games which required or even took strong advantage of the nonstandard hardware is a quick way to limit the potential sales base.
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Ehhh. I mean. Ps2 came out in 2000 but most people didn’t jump in until 2001.
Also, while you could argue it came out “late” in its life, 1997 is prime ps2. FF7 came out in 97. The system didn’t get busy in a big way until specifically that year. Most people got PlayStations in 97 or 98. So it coming out in 97 is pretty impactful. Let’s not forget that back then, rumble was a huge, new, defining feature. Few people didn’t upgrade to at least one dual shock once it came out after the dual analog.
Finally, you are relying on Japanese release dates. I am not Japanese, I’m American. And the ps1 came out in September 95. So by our perspective, dual analog controller came out less than two years into its life. So uh, definitely not nostalgia. When you consider that its biggest games used analog, and sony based an entire, iconic game around the set up, that most of us were still using our systems and playing ps1 well into 2001 (Final Fantasy IX, Vagrant Story, and Chrono Cross all came out in 2000) it’s like the equivalent of a N64 mini not having 64 Ram upgrade games. The dual analog was an iconic, integral part of the system and to criticise Sony for not having it in a mini PlayStation isn’t nostalgia. Especially given the entire point of the mini system is...nostalgia.
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Also I can’t believe they made this without ape escape. Sony is dumb. Psx has analog sticks most of its life. Lmao
Playstation — December 3, 1994
Dual Analog Controller — April 25, 1997
Playstation 2 — March 4, 2000
Your nostalgia or anecdotal experience isn't serving you well, here.
That's about half it's life. A bit less if you count to the introduction of the PS2. You could readily argue that the PS1 had legs beyond introduction of the PS2, but most publishers jumped ship to that new console with alacrity.
Most games didn't use them. Making games which required or even took strong advantage of the nonstandard hardware is a quick way to limit the potential sales base.
Dual analog/Dual Shock was still a pretty big deal. There were games released in bundles with the controller like Tekken 3 and games re-released for it like Resident Evil Director's Cut.
And it's not like the PS1 just went away after the PS2 came out- especially when the console launched outside of Japan towards the end of 2000. Capcom released Dino Crisis 2, Mega Man Legends 2, and Breath Of Fire IV, Square released Vagrant Story and Final Fantasy IX, and Activision released Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2, Spider-Man, and Tenchu 2 in 2000 for example. Sony also re-released the PS1 as the PSone with the optional attachable screen turning it into a semi-portable console that breathed some new life into the system.
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Remember when Capcom re-released Resident Evil 1 and 2 to have rumble?
I mean chrono, I’m seeing your point but saying it came out in 97 and therefore half way through the systems life makes no sense.
Here’s some of the best selling psx games as per Wikipedia:
Gran Turismo (10.85 million shipped)[1][2]
Final Fantasy VII (9.72 million)[3]
Gran Turismo 2 (9.97 million shipped)[1][2]
Final Fantasy VIII (7.86 million shipped)
Crash Bandicoot 3: Warped (7.13 million)[4]
Crash Bandicoot (6.82 million)[4]
Metal Gear Solid (6.03 million)[4]
Final Fantasy IX (5.30 million approximately;)[5]
Tomb Raider II (5.24 million)[4]
Crash Bandicoot 2: Cortex Strikes Back (5.17 million)
Correct me if I’m wrong here but of these games, only Gran Turismo 1, FFVII, and Crash Bandicoot 1 didn’t support analog.
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Seems like good lists both US and JPN. With so many good games on the system, it'd be tough to make a great list that satisfied everyone in under 50 games.
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Maybe it's my own anecdotal experience that's betraying me?
I was on-board with the PS (1) from the beginning, and almost all the games I remember strongly were all d-pad, and I didn't get Analog Controller-styled thing until the very end-of-life for my PS. OTOH, the DualShock 2 with PS2 is where I associate analog control being associated with gameplay. You guys are probably right.
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Analog controller didn't come out in the U.S. until August 1997. Dual Shock came out in Japan in November 1997 and the Dual Shock came out in U.S. in May 1998. When the Dual Shock became available in a territory Sony officially dropped support for the earlier version.
BUT and I think this might settle some stuff up here.
Sony had sent the analog controllers and their libraries around in the fall of 1996. That's how it had support in all the newest games in Japan when it came out. As I'm sure Chrono knows, Japan tended to get hardware with a tiny bit of software, there'd be a wait and then finally software. But this wasn't the case for a change, the latest titles like Bushido Blade already had it built in even though the game came out in Japan a month before the controller did. So by the time many of those games came to the U.S. they had already had it built in sometimes up to a year or more in Japan, with the U.S. controller release still to come.
Sony has long claimed they had the analog controller in development BEFORE the N64 truly showed, it just confirmed to them that it was viable when someone like Nintendo makes it the main part of their controller. I'm sure there's some fudging there but they probably had messed with the various ideas, you had stuff like the NegCon that used analog controls already available and supported in non-Namco games even. I imagine Sony had a variety of prototypes sitting there and when they saw the N64 controller said "alright, let's actually do one of these."
The original analog controller actually has a third mode on it, the Dual Shocks don't, it emulates Sony's Analog FLIGHTSTICK that games like WarHawk and Descent used. So it actually allows analog usage in games that don't have "true" support for the new controller. And there was probably some part of Sony's skunkworks trying to translate those sticks into a smaller controller that led to the dual analogs partly.
But because of the fact that it was an add-on, there weren't many analog-only titles, so PS2 was really the first time they knew you had the analogs. I never had any PS1 analog controllers personally, I was d-pad until "the end" which basically meant when I shifted over to PC/Dreamcast around 1998-99 and only kept up with a few PS1 games including some like TONY HAWK that were superior with the d-pad come fight me rite now.
I actually had a dual analog stick THRUSTMASTER controller for my PC before I did a console.
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The first US dual analog also had lonnnggger handles FOR THOSE GIANT AMERICAN HANDS, then Sony standardized it across territories with the Dual Shock:
(http://www.the-nextlevel.com/features/hardware/dual-analog-pad/dual-analog-on-shock.jpg)
And the top of the sticks were like Xbox ones, concave instead of convex.
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Maybe it's my own anecdotal experience that's betraying me?
I was on-board with the PS (1) from the beginning, and almost all the games I remember strongly were all d-pad, and I didn't get Analog Controller-styled thing until the very end-of-life for my PS. OTOH, the DualShock 2 with PS2 is where I associate analog control being associated with gameplay. You guys are probably right.
I think it’s...complicated.
Here’s the thing about PlayStation 1. It wasn’t like ps2 where analog was required. All the games with few exceptions that had analog were playable with d-pad. So you could get by and it wasn’t a necessity to buy a dual shock. But we were teens during this systems life. And having something like rumble was nothing to scoff at. Stuff like analog sticks and rumble were really cool, neat, innovative features for the time that enhanced the games for a lot of us. So to us its absence is confusing. But as I said, again, it also wasn’t a requirement. So both experiences are actually valid.
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Maybe it's my own anecdotal experience that's betraying me?
I was on-board with the PS (1) from the beginning, and almost all the games I remember strongly were all d-pad, and I didn't get Analog Controller-styled thing until the very end-of-life for my PS. OTOH, the DualShock 2 with PS2 is where I associate analog control being associated with gameplay. You guys are probably right.
I was working at a game shop during this time and remember the dual analog and then dual shock being a big deal (the Saturn analog controller much, much less so) at the time, plus all the games that followed that made use of it. People were nuts for stuff like this back then. Anything 3D and/or with controller rumble was huge.
Analog controls in some games were also a thing before Sony's controllers. Namco released their Negcon controller in 1995 and a number non-Namco racing games were compatible with it, plus the Ace Combat games and Tempest X3.
That reminds me- Rally Cross was another popular Sony title that could have been on the Classic. :doge It had 4P split-screen which was rare for the PS1.
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4P split-screen got increasingly popular after Rally Cross did it. Some of the more impressive versions of it were Crash Team Racing, Quake II and Sled Storm. A lot of them are like say, Twisted Metal 4 though, where the framerate is only good on like two of the maps.
Funny enough, Rally Cross 2 is only 2-player.
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Thinking about it, such a list of B-tier games might have have its perks. I'd be interested in trying several of these games out, for which I wouldn't really want to go through the hassle of getting them on their own legally (or even as ROMs) these days. Yet I might pick them up if they're on such a collection. Certainly not for full price though, we might start talking once this thing goes down to something like 60 - and preferably it should have enough space to be properly hackable. lol if the rumours are true and this will be just as limited as the og NES Mini release, then they can fuck off. SNES Mini though I nowadays see price-reduced in retail stores, so hopefully it's more like that.
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Thinking about it, such a list of B-tier games might have have its perks.
A lot of the bigger PS1 games have been rereleased [or are likely to be rereleased at some point], so this does give some new life to decent games from that era that have gotten overlooked in the years since. There's some value to that.
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Whose dick did you suck to make it happen?
(https://i.imgur.com/xjVXZXl.jpg)
He sucked THREE dicks? wow.
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Whose dick did you suck to make it happen?
(https://i.imgur.com/xjVXZXl.jpg)
He sucked THREE dicks? wow.
In a row?
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Whose dick did you suck to make it happen?
(https://i.imgur.com/xjVXZXl.jpg)
He sucked THREE dicks? wow.
In a row?
You've heard of "two in the pink, one in the stink" now it's time for "two in the stink, two more in the stink*.
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That reminds me- Rally Cross was another popular Sony title that could have been on the Classic. :doge It had 4P split-screen which was rare for the PS1.
Which would likely be the reason it's not included. Because the PS1 mini is a thing, but the PS1 MultiTap is not a thing, and consumers would have beseeched Sony for instructions on how to play…
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(…)
That reminds me- Rally Cross was another popular Sony title that could have been on the Classic. :doge It had 4P split-screen which was rare for the PS1.
Which would likely be the reason it's not included. Because the PS1 mini is a thing, but the PS1 MultiTap is not a thing, and consumers would have beseeched Sony for instructions on how to play…
Missed opportunities to have had four ports or a mini multitap and sell extra controllers. Nintendo will show them how it's done with the N64 Classic Mini.
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I don't understand this game list
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I have heard some speculation that as these "classic mini" consoles move into the PS1/N64 and forward era that licensing and emulation is playing increasing problems. The NES and SNES have been for all purposes "perfectly" emulated by fans for ages now, let alone Nintendo.
The PS1 and N64 have yet to reach that state with either the fanbase or the companies themselves. Most people forget for example that the PS2's list of PS1 games that "didn't work" with the console increased with every revision of the hardware and certain Slim models can have some serious issues.
Lots was made of the fact that Sony reused the PS1 CPU in the PS2 and while that helped the console was still doing emulation of the GTE on the EE/GS. Games that ignored certain Sony libraries had some of the largest issues. I believe the Slims got rid of the PS1 CPU altogether, and they made revisions to the EE/GS especially after it was made a single chip. This caused backwards compability issues with PS2 titles, the media didn't much care about PS1 backwards compability at that point but it also took hits from this. Even fewer people paid attention to the PS3's situation on this.
I believe Sony's PS1 emulator has been derived from the PSP version they created since they had to emulate everything finally. Much like Dolphin, where you can get better results running the VC versions of N64 games through it than through N64 specific emulators, PSPPP shows similar results running PS1 classics. (I think I saw one of the knowledgeable GAFfers recommend emulating that version of Symphony of the Night over using a PS1 emulator.)
Rainbow Six continues to be the most baffling inclusion of all unless it's some kind of UbiSoft representation thing. If/when the N64 mini comes out the first thing I'm looking for is that console's crappy Rainbow Six port alongside Rayman 2.
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Eurogamer thinks this thing sucks shit
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-11-08-weve-played-the-playstation-classic-and-its-a-disappointment
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https://kotaku.com/playstation-classic-plays-fine-but-it-s-a-bare-bones-e-1830294616
Lol that UI
Kohler says its using PCSX Rearmed emulator.
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https://kotaku.com/playstation-classic-plays-fine-but-it-s-a-bare-bones-e-1830294616
Lol that UI
Kohler says its using PCSX Rearmed emulator.
Did they use the Resident Evil Director's Cut box art that says it comes with a RE2 demo? :lol
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https://kotaku.com/playstation-classic-plays-fine-but-it-s-a-bare-bones-e-1830294616
Lol that UI
Kohler says its using PCSX Rearmed emulator.
The inferior libretto core. :kobeyuck
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why they gotta fuck up one of the GOAT libraries so bad :stahp When Sony copies something, you'd at least think they'd improve on it a bit. Should have at least been PSN compatible, like the PSTV. Speaking of which, I should've picked one up when those were thrown away for 20 bucks, but I was put off when they killed hacks to remove game-limitations at that time. It's going to annoy me when the narrative is gonna go like "see, this gen is trash", even though it's just the not so well made collection that's the problem. :-\
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Surprised a lot of you guys are meh on Wild Arms. I mean there's definitely better rpgs on the system (an rpg-only PS1 classic would be awesome), but it's still a solid game with fun puzzle dungeons, an amazing soundtrack, and GOAT intro.
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Sony saving me money :lol
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The fact it isn't an inhouse emulator is disappointing. I'm probably going to skip it.
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Holy shit they actually kept the purple splash background with that rainbow thing in the main menu setup. Nostalgia overload but not enough to buy it for 100 woolongs.
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That reminds me- Rally Cross was another popular Sony title that could have been on the Classic. :doge It had 4P split-screen which was rare for the PS1.
Which would likely be the reason it's not included. Because the PS1 mini is a thing, but the PS1 MultiTap is not a thing, and consumers would have beseeched Sony for instructions on how to play…
Missed opportunities to have had four ports or a mini multitap and sell extra controllers. Nintendo will show them how it's done with the N64 Classic Mini.
But that's my entire point: the N64 ships with four controller ports, it's feasible that two people who each buy their N64 Mini Classic can just use their controllers. This is how the Switch works. In your scenario, SOMEONE has to have the MultiTap.
Everything about appliance construction is doing an ROI on cost-of-goods. I mean, Sony could have just as easily built MultiTap functionality into the base unit. They decided that isn't what the product would be about.
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Kotaku says some of the games are the PAL versions :crazy Yeah, I'm really better off picking up some of its few hidden gems that I missed via the used market, if they can't even get rid of the 50hz.
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The emulator will likely have a simple switch for that. Though it is puzzling that they're using the PAL versions in the first place.
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This is literally just a retroPie in a cute playstation shell. I hate to use that phrase but at least the Nintendo was using their own shit. Sony already has a pretty good PS1 emulator on the Vita/PSP
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but at least the Nintendo was using their own shit.
Well, except for some of the ROMs maybe (https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-01-18-did-nintendo-download-a-mario-rom-and-sell-it-back-to-us).
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Next up, Sega, show us what you got :bolo (Please Castlevania Bloodlines and Hard Corps - to make the MD/Genesis Mini worthwhile compared to all the existing collections)
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I hate to use that phrase but at least the Nintendo was using their own shit.
Yeah no. They pirate their shit and then C&D the rom sites to try to sell it back to you. Don't put them on a pedestal, dude. :doge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLWY7fCXUwE
Sony already has a pretty good PS1 emulator on the Vita/PSP
This is really the WTF of the whole thing. AFAIK POPS is on PS3 as well.
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Who is talking about the roms? Lmao
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Huh, nobody's done a teardown yet? GiantBomb/CBS/GameSpot opened one of their NES Classics the hour they got it. :lol
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Eurogamer has reviewed it and said it sucked
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https://twitter.com/MarkMan23/status/1067122274795429895
:kobeyuck
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https://twitter.com/MarkMan23/status/1067122274795429895
:kobeyuck
YUCK indeed
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Srsly why didn't they ask me to help them, I could have made that thing the best
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https://twitter.com/USgamernet/status/1067202420298510336
(https://i.imgur.com/k6dl8aC.gif)
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Did they outsource this?
Grabbing an open source emulator over using their own emulator, using only one version of the games across regions, etc. sounds like the kind of things you'd do if you didn't have full access to the resources.
edit: Thinking about it, it could explain using digital only controllers too. I can't imagine the cost savings to Sony being that high considering how long they have produced the Dual Shock and its near identical mold successors. But a third/second party producer might find it far more valuable to shrink the design.
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Kaz didn't die for this. :japancry
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:lol
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https://twitter.com/USgamernet/status/1067202420298510336
(https://i.imgur.com/k6dl8aC.gif)
That ain't it, chief.
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Exodust might be right in that arrogant Sony is back :lol
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Who is talking about the roms? Lmao
That doesn't negate my point: Nintendo goes out of their way to shutdown rom sites while turning around and selling roms from said rom sites back to you for $50 a pop. What makes them any different from Sony? If anything they're worse because their hardware is probably the same shitty-ass retro-console hardware that forgetting-that-company-that-does-all-in-ones uses. Just without the ability to put the actual 1980's cart into the hardware.
You (and anyone without a brain) should get a clue and skip the middleman and just pirate the goddamn roms, anything from the PSX and earlier can be played on a goddamn toaster now a days.
https://twitter.com/USgamernet/status/1067202420298510336
So Sony can't even be assed to pirate the US versions. Pirates stay winning.
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Sixaxis all over again. Sony will always copy Nintendo... but poorly.
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:goldberg
Sixaxis all over again. Sony will always copy Nintendo... but poorly.
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:P
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqKi2XLFXzo
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lol what the fuck is this shit sony pls
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OTOH the lineup is still shit and the controller decision was always dumb as shit so I never really felt compelled to buy the thing in the first place
hello still sealed PSTV I got on deep discount years ago :rejoice
Here's hoping Microsoft somehow pulls one over on the PS5 with the Xbtoo
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16GB Flash Memory - definitely some workable space if this gets cracked open
(https://i.imgur.com/rGWzMrG.png)
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Looks like they planned to include more games originally:
https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/a2ujxk/the_playstation_classics_custom_pcsx_rearmed/
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WILD_ARMS_US,
XEVIOUS_3D_G_JP,
XEVIOUS_3D_G_US,
XI_EU,
XI_JP,
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now THAT would've been a great game lineup.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYtDSEXPeaw
I like his list better :P
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNtAUwz8fqw
You can access emulator settings by plugging in a usb keyboard....
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:rofl
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Reportedly doesn't work with all keyboards but already off to a good start! :lol
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Sony is ass
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Sony is ass
(https://media.giphy.com/media/10hexADl3Kl6SY/giphy.gif)
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Sony is ass
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61BwyXliWfL._UX679_.jpg)
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Sony is ass
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61BwyXliWfL._UX679_.jpg)
I could literally fuck Sony in the ass :ohhh
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Sony is ass
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61BwyXliWfL._UX679_.jpg)
I could literally fuck Sony in the ass :ohhh
Question is, is X to enter like the American version, or O like the Japanese one? :ryker
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You could split the difference
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:dead U guys kill me
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This looks awful. Did no one during testing said: "You know guys, maybe we shouldn't release this" :doge
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This looks awful. Did no one during testing said: "You know guys, maybe we shouldn't release this" :doge
If only they'd done that with the PS3 and Vita :fbm
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Japanese haxor loading ISO on PS Classic
https://twitter.com/bakueikozo/status/1070463458011832321
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Here's a lovely giant nitpicky analysis of just how much this thing utterly and completely fucking sucks from that dork1x guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU0dn9pRKuw
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YifanLu (switch hacker and vita/ps4 hacker) said on a stream that it should be as easy as putting in a USB stick and jailbreaking it to be able to run your own games on it.
Apparently they encrypted the files/firmware with a public key or some such, making it super easy to access the OS
https://twitter.com/yifanlu/status/1070483458265243648
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76r1erSP9ms
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Two days later and already has ISOs running.
:dead
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Might actually buy one now if it’s that easy
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Basically any device that runs PS1 games (including PSP/PS2/PS3 and my shitty PC emulator to play Dragonball games with back in high school) run PS1 games better than the PS Classic does.
Running games at 50hz with a 60hz output and that sound reverb glitch.... what the fuck were they thinking.
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In terms of quality/cost of controllers and core hardware, is it possible to just overwrite the content with whatever you like? Or is it all un-write-able?
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if its that easy to boot ISOs might as well just plug in a USB HDD and have every PS1 game on there (or all the good ones)
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or all the terrible ones :phil
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Seems to me this thing has too many negatives to the point where the ol “just make an emu box” line really carries some weight here
I keep seeing weird knock off gameboy things advertised on Facebook and it makes me want to just do the research on what hardware is out there and build a custom portable emu thingy, ground up. Might be a fun garage proj
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Seems to me this thing has too many negatives to the point where the ol “just make an emu box” line really carries some weight here
I keep seeing weird knock off gameboy things advertised on Facebook and it makes me want to just do the research on what hardware is out there and build a custom portable emu thingy, ground up. Might be a fun garage proj
I've already got a GPD WIN 2 for portable emulation fun, but just went and ordered a RetroPi kit tonight. Costs less than the PS Classic, too.
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The SNES Classic has hardware capable of emulating the PlayStation better than the PS Classic does. :doge
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I keep seeing weird knock off gameboy things advertised on Facebook and it makes me want to just do the research on what hardware is out there and build a custom portable emu thingy, ground up. Might be a fun garage proj
Raspberry Pi 3B or Zero + Solar Pi + buttons/3D printer shell. Final destination.
Enjoy.
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or all the terrible ones :phil
I was so excited for the Spawn and the Fifth Element games. The magazine I was reading back then hyped them up so much prerelease. I especially remember The Fifth Element to be a glorious trainwreck. :lawd
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ej90W_ZB_k
Looks like doing this means no 2P games, unless you can get an adapter for the micro-USB power port and run a stick from there.
But no thanks- I'm about to go ahead and get this Raspberry Pi kit set up instead.
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Lol, nice hot take on a preliminary method of adding games.
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HAHAHAHAHA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol12g5GxI7Y
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Defiling Nintendo hardware with Sony software. :donot
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(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1a/DraculaSNES_boxart.jpg)
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You missed an opportunity to go with Cliffhanger, Mickey Mania or 3 Ninjas Kick Back imo
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Mickey Mania is so fucking good
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Mickey Mania is so fucking good
:drudge :drudge
EXCUSE ME!? Known REEEEEE foe and nazi DAVID JAFFE was a designer.
:social :gamergate :rethread
GET THAT NAZI PROPAGANDA OUT OF HERE
:ltg
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I actually have the Sega CD version of Bram Stoker's Dracula on my SNES Classic. I'm a fan of cheeseball FMV/digitized games.
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I actually have the Sega CD version of Bram Stoker's Dracula on my SNES Classic. I'm a fan of cheeseball FMV/digitized games.
Loved that shit back then. Totally blown away. 2.5D game before there were 2.5D games.
As for Mickey Mania, that game sucked ass when compared to Castle of Illusion.... It's still the best Mickey game.
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I liked Magical Quest.
Too short tho.
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https://twitter.com/nvsofts/status/1070761406348189696
Finally, Doom on the Playstation! :lawd
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lol already on fire sale
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1074214139000631296
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1074219503989415936
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Nintendo games still keeping their value decades later. :lawd
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I totally bet Sony flooded the market with these things.
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Has anyone asked Sony why they've emulated 50hz games even though 60hz versions are available?
What was the fucking point. Did they want to make it as horrible as possible or did they torrent the wrong rom pack?
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Has anyone asked Sony why they've emulated 50hz games even though 60hz versions are available?
What was the fucking point. Did they want to make it as horrible as possible or did they torrent the wrong rom pack?
They wanted to have the same console for all markets that the multi language games can be sold in, IIRC.
...Still fucking stupid. Note that the Japanese version games all apparently run at 60 fps.
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Note that the Japanese version games all apparently run at 60 fps.
Because NTSC was US/Japan. PAL was Aus/Europe.
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Note that the Japanese version games all apparently run at 60 fps.
Because NTSC was US/Japan. PAL was Aus/Europe.
Right...except here, 'Murica got the PAL games too.
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So I now got some things like Jumping Flash 2 on other platforms/services, since this thing was only good to reignite my interest in some lesser known titles. Too bad I hate strategy, because Final Fantasy Tactics is surprisingly cheap to get.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn27YQMGclk
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Price dropped again to $59.99 (Amazon/Gamestop/Walmart).
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn27YQMGclk
Cutting the Pi to fit it into this physically hurts me. Also why does all this when you can just get a PS-esque shell for the Pi?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDDY9ABRot4
He notes that the PS Classic is about the same, internally, as the Amazon Firestick 4K...except that the Firestick is more powerful and costs less.
:dizzy
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They both use the same PowerVR chip. Late admission that Sega was right?
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I wonder if I could combine that 40% off coupon with a price match at Target. You're not supposed to, but you could ask for a price match and then pay with the Target wallet app which is one barcode tied to you Target Redcard.
But it also ties into your cartwheel coupon.
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Has anyone carved out the top and put an actual disc drive in yet? I feel like that's the endgame of this.
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Has anyone carved out the top and put an actual disc drive in yet? I feel like that's the endgame of this.
It's too small for CD-ROMs, but that would be hilarious.
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Cool shove some GameCube guts in there
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So we take out the insides, put in a Pi running Dolphin and the GameCube's disc drive...
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the GameCube's motherboard would almost fit, 7mm too long :lol
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the GameCube's motherboard would almost fit, 7mm too long :lol
There are ways:
https://bitbuilt.net/forums/index.php?threads/the-definitive-wii-trimming-guide.198/
https://youtu.be/lbl8ZHAbR4A
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Yes keep going
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put in a Pi running Dolphin
Not sure if joking, but impossible.
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put in a Pi running Dolphin
Not sure if joking, but impossible.
Nothing is impossible! Not if you can imagine it. That's what being a scientist is all about!
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https://old.reddit.com/r/classicmods/comments/abupug/bleemsync_dev_vlog_3_successfully_enabling_back/
BleemSync (basically PS's "Hakchi") is making great progress. They figured out how to use the back USB port for splitters for USB Storage (instead of the current method of using the player 2 port), and it looks like they are on their way of providing means of adding/removing games from the internal memory as well.
That said, since this is using an already open-source emulator, theres no reason to buy one if you already have a Rasp Pi or even use any other method of emulating PS1 games.
Retroarch does allow you to use your PS3/PS4 controllers plugged into the PSC though, I believe.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r5DPXI_pnc
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Waste of money. Bleemsync 1.0 is releasing in under a day....
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Lmao Bleem is back. Not a name I’ve read in a while.
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The price is down to $29.99 now, lol. Ordered one for shits n' giggles.
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I got one for $40 and don't regret it. It's pretty nice once you "hack" it. I've been playing a lot of the wrestling games, War Zone in particular.
FYI I found that Sandisk thumb drives work a lot better than other brands for whatever reason. Also (unless something's changed) there is a memory and/or game limit. I can use 64GB drives with about 200 games fine, but 128 GB sticks or more than about 200 games won't work, it'll just go to the standard PS1 Classic lineup.
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The price is down to $29.99 now, lol. Ordered one for shits n' giggles.
It's alright, even with just the standard lineup and it's inexplicable issues.
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I am kind of tempted at $30. :thinking
These are pretty cool, I am going to end up with like 4 mini systems I don't play. These are good for family gatherings when I don't want to bother with the real systems though.
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I got one for $40 and don't regret it. It's pretty nice once you "hack" it. I've been playing a lot of the wrestling games, War Zone in particular.
Oh yeah, I'm definitely going to be putting my own games on there and will use an 8bitdo for full controller support and Ape Escape. LOL at that shit default line-up.
I am kind of tempted at $30. :thinking
These are pretty cool, I am going to end up with like 4 mini systems I don't play. These are good for family gatherings when I don't want to bother with the real systems though.
Yeah. :lol Totally don't need this at all. But hey, mini little PS1-thing will look nice with the other stuff. I guess.
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$24.99 at Best Buy
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-playstation-classic-console/6301601.p?skuId=6301601
How low will it go?
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How low will it go?
Buy 1 get 2 free
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When they start giving them away as the free PS+ game of the month.
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When they start giving them away as the free PS+ game of the month.
Put Intelligent Qube on US PSN, YOU COWARDS! :bolo
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https://youtu.be/_0GiJP7aR6A
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$20 at Best Buy! Grabbed a second for a friend. He helped me do the voltage limiter mod and it works a treat with any USB stick I throw at it. My buddy is playing Policenauts on his for the first time.
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With OTG enabled the USB limiter mod should be unnecessary now
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voltage limiter? otg? whut?
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voltage limiter? otg? whut?
You mod handhelds but you don't know what a voltage limiter is? And don't have a USB OTG? :confused
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Autobleem, no apps to download or install
Heres a post I made when I did mine up
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45895.msg2894833#msg2894833
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Seconded on AutoBleem,
Here are the files you need and about 50 PS1 games. Format a USB drive to FAT32 (SanDisk works best) and unzip these files into a folder called SONY.
http://hkfilm.net/multi/games/SONY.rar
If you want to add games from other systems, RetroArch works really well. I have games from pretty much every system pre-PS2 on mine. For games that use an analog stick, I have a PS4 wired Hori gamepad that works really well, but you will have to remap the controls for some games, like N64 FPS's.
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voltage limiter? otg? whut?
You mod handhelds but you don't know what a voltage limiter is? And don't have a USB OTG? :confused
No need with gba
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If you want to use other controllers you basically [need] to use Retroarch.
I think Retroarch is a labyrinth of menus and options to navigate so I just use the "default" emulator for PS1 - the drawback is using the analog-less ps1 pads.
I think there's an 8bitdo adapter that is compatible with the "default" emulator but I'm fine with the regular pad.
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I think there's an 8bitdo adapter that is compatible with the "default" emulator but I'm fine with the regular pad.
Yes, and it works for some other systems, too! :)
https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Bluetooth-Adapter-PlayStation-Raspberry/dp/B07M68VTKP/ref=sr_1_2?crid=ARE9PD1F6OT6&dchild=1&keywords=8bitdo+ps+classic&qid=1598025517&sprefix=8bitdo+ps%2Caps%2C177&sr=8-2
With the 8BitDo Wireless USB Adapter, you can easily use PS4, Xbox One S, PS3, Wii Mote, Wii U Pro, Joycons and all 8BitDo controllers with PS1 Classic Edition, Switch, PC, Mac, Raspberry Pi and more.
Play your PS1 Classic Edition, wirelessly, with any PS4 controller.
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Here's a pic I took of my Classic running AutoBleem. When you install AutoBleem it actually "overwrites" the default emulator with a more updated one. So far I've had no issues with games I've thrown at it. I know TaiFu has a loading problem but it does actually run if you want like 5 minutes per loading screen lol
https://i.imgur.com/tFTyJTE.jpg
You should be able to scale the picture in Retroarch if that's what you are asking
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100% perfect emulation on Pepsiman
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Is Autobleem the "go-to" emulator for a PS Classic? I managed to get one for ten bucks last year and have yet to mess with it
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If I still use the first hack for ps mini what do I do to upgrade?
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Is Autobleem the "go-to" emulator for a PS Classic? I managed to get one for ten bucks last year and have yet to mess with it
Autobleem isn't an "emulator" it's just an easy to use hack. You'll be using either Retroarch's emulator core or the "built-in" emulator from Autobleem/Sony.
IMO Autobleem is the easiest plug and play hack to setup, but you can go other routes like Project Eris and such.
Autobleem runs off your memory stick -> if you unplug the stick, it will go back to the stock setup.