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Title: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: D3RANG3D on September 19, 2018, 05:25:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl2h8LDq_oI

FF7

Wild Arms

Tekken 3

Ridge Racer Type 4

Jumping Flash

Revealed so far as games available.

Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Raist on September 19, 2018, 05:46:54 AM
No analogue sticks? Sony pls.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: paprikastaude on September 19, 2018, 06:13:52 AM
Only 20 games in the og selection? :hhh 15 spots left and even if I boil it down to the absolute basics, I would already need to give 5 spots to games by Capcom, Konami and Squaresoft each. And one spot for JRPGs is already taken by Wild Arms of all games? That final selection will be a mess.

Also no analogue sticks, come one now.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Rufus on September 19, 2018, 06:28:57 AM
One thing that interests me is what they're doing in terms of graphics options.

I expect a CRT filter and at least bilinear texture filtering like the PS2 could do, but what else? Are they going to do perspective correction so the textures don't warp? Increase rendering resolution? Anti-aliasing? 🤔
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: paprikastaude on September 19, 2018, 06:31:59 AM
The cartoon filter that looks awful for 2D games works much better for prerendered backgrounds. I've seen some "impressive" screens of RE2 with it somewhere.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 19, 2018, 06:39:36 AM
Let me play the damn games on the PS4 you piece of shit company.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: bork on September 19, 2018, 07:17:03 AM
I love me some Playstation, but this isn't as exciting an announcement as the NES Classic was.  I dunno.  Need to see what the other games are first, I guess. 

One thing that interests me is what they're doing in terms of graphics options.

I expect a CRT filter and at least bilinear texture filtering like the PS2 could do, but what else? Are they going to do perspective correction so the textures don't warp? Increase rendering resolution? Anti-aliasing? 🤔

I don't expect any filters.  :doge
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: thisismyusername on September 19, 2018, 07:32:42 AM
45% smaller.

"Go on..."

Virtual Discs.

"Ok, I'm out."

What's the damn point if it's not going to be able to run my discs? HDMI output is nice, controller "replicas" is nice. But if it can't use my controllers from the original, why would I use it over my phone/etc. that is able to emulate?

Seems like it's trying to copy the NES, but like the NES it's worthless for those of us that just use a Raspberry Pi/et. al. for ROMs.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: MMaRsu on September 19, 2018, 07:33:43 AM
ePSXe FTW

That program works like crap for me. I tried SOTN because I dont like the XBO port that much, and wanted to play the psx original.

But I get slowdown all the time and it seems unresponsive. I tried PPSSPP and just used the Dracula X rondo game to get to SOTN unlock instead. But that version Alucard sounds like a little bitch..what the hell did they do to his voice?
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: demi on September 19, 2018, 07:37:12 AM
Removed RGT vid because he's a tool

I'm already standing in line
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: paprikastaude on September 19, 2018, 07:37:46 AM
I didn't even think about how this probably means them continuing to be complete bitches about BC. Hopes for PS5 decreasing.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: MMaRsu on September 19, 2018, 07:40:49 AM
I would assume PS5 is at least BC with PS4, but anything before that you're gonna be shit outta luck
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Svejk on September 19, 2018, 07:43:45 AM
If they announced Alundra and SotN... I'd bite.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: demi on September 19, 2018, 07:44:08 AM
Let me play the damn games on the PS4 you piece of shit company.

https://twitter.com/xboxuk/status/1042353577744916480
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: paprikastaude on September 19, 2018, 07:46:43 AM
It only happens when a product is losing. :fbm
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: bork on September 19, 2018, 08:00:49 AM
If they announced Alundra and SotN... I'd bite.

SoTN I can see.  Alundra seems doubtful.  But if I want to play SoTN, I'd rather get the SoTN/Rondo collection that Konami is going to be releasing for PS4 instead so I can play the game at 1080P (and hopefully 4K).
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: demi on September 19, 2018, 08:05:28 AM
Preorder available on Best Buy and GameStop right now

Pics

https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1042294414016602112

Specs

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DncGdenU4AAkw2Z.jpg:large)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DncGdenU4AAkw2Z.jpg:large
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: BisMarckie on September 19, 2018, 08:18:54 AM
ePSXe FTW

ePSXe is trash, Beetle is a libretto(retroarch) core that is much better.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: pilonv1 on September 19, 2018, 08:20:49 AM
No analogue sticks? Sony pls.

No Ape Escape then  :goty2
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: porkbun on September 19, 2018, 08:24:36 AM
No analogue sticks? Sony pls.

They're not even including an AC adapter.

 :cmonson
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Akala on September 19, 2018, 09:08:21 AM
I like it, but also still have all those games (a lot I probably double dipped digitally as well I would guess) so not super interested. These mini systems are neatish, but would much rather if they just threw emus on the current systems.

All that said I am probably getting one of these for xmas, I see it now.  :goty
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Svejk on September 19, 2018, 09:23:25 AM
Let's get down to brass tax here...  How hackable is it? 
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: bork on September 19, 2018, 09:27:28 AM
Let's get down to brass tax here...  How hackable is it?

Can't believe Sony didn't give us those details!  :doge  :P
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: nachobro on September 19, 2018, 09:35:22 AM
Let me play the damn games on the PS4 you piece of shit company.
yep. i can almost excuse nintendo for not just releasing their games on the console cause they are idiots when it comes to online/digital anything but sony should just let me play the games i already bought years ago on ps3
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: paprikastaude on September 19, 2018, 09:39:11 AM
Let me play the damn games on the PS4 you piece of shit company.
yep. i can almost excuse nintendo for not just releasing their games on the console cause they are idiots when it comes to online/digital anything but sony should just let me play the games i already bought years ago on ps3

Also different game formats, so whatever. But Sony's entire history is disc based, so let me just pop my fucking games in and play. I'm currently using my PS3 for PS1 games, which is I guess still okay. But it's going to be annoying going another generation forward without the ability to use a PS emulator that costs them nothing.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Himu on September 19, 2018, 09:58:01 AM
The lack of analog sticks is baffling. Did they forget psx had analog sticks? So no Ape Escpae?

Also these clips look like shit.  NES and SNES classic look amazing on hdmi. They didn’t smooth out anything?! Also Wild Arms? Lmao. And 100 dollars?

Psx is one of my favorite systems but this a pass for me. That box does get me nostalgic tho. Ps2 classic WHEN.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Himu on September 19, 2018, 09:59:13 AM
Let me play the damn games on the PS4 you piece of shit company.
yep. i can almost excuse nintendo for not just releasing their games on the console cause they are idiots when it comes to online/digital anything but sony should just let me play the games i already bought years ago on ps3

Also different game formats, so whatever. But Sony's entire history is disc based, so let me just pop my fucking games in and play. I'm currently using my PS3 for PS1 games, which is I guess still okay. But it's going to be annoying going another generation forward without the ability to use a PS emulator that costs them nothing.

Yeah I have to have a ps3 hooked up for ps1 games and it’s ridiculous because I hate turning the thing on.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: mormapope on September 19, 2018, 11:34:51 AM
They probably stuck a PSTV in a Playstation shell and that's probably as far as they went. If you guys don't remember what the PSTV was, it's basically a Vita for home. Can play digital PS1 games, PSP games, Vita games.


Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Positive Touch on September 19, 2018, 11:46:45 AM
no analog sucks means no mgs means lol. ps1 biggest years were after the dualshock so wtf?
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Himu on September 19, 2018, 11:51:29 AM
Yes and mgs used dpad too
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Positive Touch on September 19, 2018, 12:29:25 PM
ah right I forgot it wasn't required, just added a lot of extra bonuses
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: demi on September 19, 2018, 05:31:14 PM
Amazon link, just pre-ordered here as well as Best Buy

https://amzn.to/2MLPpFq
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Nintex on September 19, 2018, 06:22:11 PM
I read this is in limited supply.

Sony stealing Nintendo's innovations again!
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Rufus on September 19, 2018, 06:44:41 PM
Let's get down to brass tax here...  How hackable is it?
Depends on what hardware they're using. Old, flush Sony would have been crazy enough to recreate the entire thing as an SoC. One can dream.

They probably stuck a PSTV in a Playstation shell and that's probably as far as they went. If you guys don't remember what the PSTV was, it's basically a Vita for home. Can play digital PS1 games, PSP games, Vita games.
Or that!
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: bork on September 19, 2018, 08:06:41 PM
They probably stuck a PSTV in a Playstation shell and that's probably as far as they went. If you guys don't remember what the PSTV was, it's basically a Vita for home. Can play digital PS1 games, PSP games, Vita games.

The PSTV can do 1080i, though... :thinking
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 19, 2018, 08:40:58 PM
I already have a PS3.

I think only a mini PS2 would really get me excited for nostalgia.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: benjipwns on September 21, 2018, 05:21:55 AM
Are they going to do perspective correction so the textures don't warp?
This is the one thing you can't do with PS1 games if you're using the original game, you have to change the math in the GTE-related code. When you're emulating it you can't just fix it because you'd have to fix every single vertices and know how wrong they are and what the frame is supposed to look like so as how to fix them.

One bad thing about that generation is how ugly everything is when you draw it at higher resolutions due to the various quirks like this. And there's no fixing it for any of the platforms.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: benjipwns on September 21, 2018, 05:29:38 AM
will it have a screen?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/97/Sony-PSone-Console-wScreen-Open-FL.jpg/200px-Sony-PSone-Console-wScreen-Open-FL.jpg)
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 21, 2018, 07:13:10 AM
Nintendo shits out a nes mini and people go apeshit

Now you people complain

Psx had analog sticks laaaate into its life, those golden years were analogless, I never had analogs for my psx
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Rufus on September 21, 2018, 09:00:52 AM
Are they going to do perspective correction so the textures don't warp?
This is the one thing you can't do with PS1 games if you're using the original game, you have to change the math in the GTE-related code. When you're emulating it you can't just fix it because you'd have to fix every single vertices and know how wrong they are and what the frame is supposed to look like so as how to fix them.

One bad thing about that generation is how ugly everything is when you draw it at higher resolutions due to the various quirks like this. And there's no fixing it for any of the platforms.
There is PGXP (also available in libretro's beetle-psx-hw):
https://www.ngemu.com/threads/pcsxr-pgxp.186369/

It can work wonders, but it's not perfect:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC4OwvK0hcM

Even better comparison:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oBeO-cui_c
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: bork on September 21, 2018, 09:43:05 AM
Psx had analog sticks laaaate into its life, those golden years were analogless, I never had analogs for my psx

The PS1 came out in Japan at the end of '94.  Released in the rest of the world in Fall '95.  The first dual analog controller (didn't have rumble) was shown in 1996 and came out in April 1997.  Not exactly late in its life.  Then there were other games, like R4, announced for this thing, that had their own controllers made for analog control.  Tekken 3 had a dual shock controller bundle when it first came out in Japan.  It was a big thing. 
:ufup :expert

It's also just fucking stupid to not have dual analog controllers -it stops some games from playing as well as could have- and it means some games won't be included like Ape Escape. 

Now watch Sony try to cash in on this by selling dual shocks for it separately.  :doge
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: benjipwns on September 21, 2018, 09:53:24 AM
There is PGXP (also available in libretro's beetle-psx-hw):
https://www.ngemu.com/threads/pcsxr-pgxp.186369/
well, i'll be, i knew emulators were correcting the texture placement from affline some time ago, but they couldn't stop the "swimming" without tons of errors, but that is pretty fancy, the TR one especially

very cool to take the vertex data, skip emulating the GTE and just send it to the GPU since they now have unlimited power and draw with that

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All the triangles are being transformed but the low precision results in many vertices of small triangles getting the same position. This causes those triangles to collapse into lines or points, becoming degenerate, with an area of zero.
You can see this happening in the image where groups of small triangles form simple squares, two or three triangles stretch as their vertices snap to the same few points while other triangles disappear altogether.

The PlayStation's GTE has a function to cull these degenerate triangles called NCLIP which also removes triangles that are facing away from the viewer (back-face culling). As PGXP calculates and stores vertices in high precision the implicit simplification doesn't happen but the default NCLIP behaviour still results in small triangles, that would have become degenerate, being culled. This is because the emulated game expects a low precision integer value which will be truncated to 0 for many small triangles.

To solve this PGXP calculates its own NCLIP result in high precision and then intentionally skews the results so that values that would become 0 are now rounded up to 1 or -1 before passing it back to the emulator. So technically, rather than creating more triangles from a mesh, it is preserving existing triangles that would otherwise be simplified out.
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There are two main reasons for the jitter seen on PS1 games:

    Lack of floating point support on any of the PS1 hardware, meaning vertex positions are stored and modified using fixed point values and arithmetic. The resulting lack of precision causes 3D geometry to jitter and distort as vertices visibly snap between positions instead of moving smoothly.
    Lack of perspective correct texturing, which requires vertices to have a valid W component, meaning all textures use affine sampling. This causes textures on 3D models to become increasingly warped as primitives stretch into the distance.

When a game was developed for the PlayStation there would be no floating point values or operations in the code at all, meaning that if the developer wanted to add support in the PC port (or Dreamcast, N64, etc.) they'd need to rewrite all the fixed point arithmetic and values as floating point. If they didn't then the port would suffer the exact same graphical issues as the PS1 version. The developers who ported MGS, Tomb Raider, FF7 and similar games obviously did this, and also added support for full 3D geometry with depth and perspective correction.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Akala on September 21, 2018, 11:50:22 AM
I am kind of interested in what other games they throw on there.

Generally pessimistic, my bet is on first party trash like Syphon Filter, Jet Moto, Legend of Dragoon, etc. Would like to be wrong tho, there is so much potential.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Svejk on September 21, 2018, 01:16:47 PM
So.... have they not revealed all 20 games yet??  Are they being serious?  LOL at whomever pre-ordered this not knowing, if so.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: demi on September 21, 2018, 01:38:10 PM
Why LOL? The 5 games they showed already are worth the price of admission. Rest is bonus
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: CatsCatsCats on September 21, 2018, 03:44:21 PM
Couldn’t give less of a fuck about PSX but would totally bite for as PS2 version as I was a whiny gamecube stan and never got to play katamari
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Svejk on September 21, 2018, 03:56:59 PM
Why LOL? The 5 games they showed already are worth the price of admission. Rest is bonus
Even if they were Mary-Kate & Ashley: Magical Mystery Mall, Star Wars: Masters Of Teräs Käsi, The Crow: City Of Angels, Mortal Kombat: Special Forces, Barbie: Explorer and Bubsy 3D amongst other choicest of nugz?   :doge  Just saying, it's stupid that they have to be so cryptic about the remaining 75% of the games it's supposedly coming with.  Only pseudo-justifiable reason would be for licensing issues...  if so, it should've been delayed until confirmed. 
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Tasty on September 21, 2018, 04:18:42 PM
Couldn’t give less of a fuck about PSX but would totally bite for as PS2 version as I was a whiny gamecube stan and never got to play katamari

Better version of Katamari is coming to Switch soon. :)

https://youtu.be/AsJyVsQNJUg
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: demi on September 25, 2018, 08:11:27 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/YCunC5o.jpg)
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Tuckers Law on September 25, 2018, 09:05:10 AM
Looks like a complete waste of money for me, I already have a Vita and PS TV.

That's a no for me, Sony (unless you include some gems not available on PSN already, like Brave Fencer Musashi and Einhander).
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: chronovore on September 26, 2018, 11:48:56 AM
No analogue sticks? Sony pls.
The lack of analog sticks is baffling. Did they forget psx had analog sticks? So no Ape Escpae?

Also these clips look like shit.  NES and SNES classic look amazing on hdmi. They didn’t smooth out anything?! Also Wild Arms? Lmao. And 100 dollars?

Psx is one of my favorite systems but this a pass for me. That box does get me nostalgic tho. Ps2 classic WHEN.

There just weren't that many games which supported the first analog controller. You're looking at adding a tremendous cost of goods for a control scheme that they can literally plan their library around.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: archie4208 on October 29, 2018, 08:16:15 AM
https://blog.us.playstation.com/2018/10/29/announcing-playstation-classics-full-lineup-of-20-games/

ehhhh.  I hope it's easily hackable.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Coax on October 29, 2018, 08:18:25 AM
Full game list reveal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88ACUOvfDEw

Credit to jad7845 on Reddit for posting the text version:

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Grand Theft Auto

Battle Arena Toshinden

Ridge Racer Type 4

Mr Driller

Metal Gear Solid

Twisted Metal

Oddworld: Abe’s Oddysee

Syphon Filter

Rayman

Tekken 3

Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six

Wild Arms

Jumping Flash!

Cool Boarders 2

Final Fantasy VII

Destruction Derby

Revelations: Persona

Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo

Intelligent Qube

Resident Evil Director’s Cut
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Rufus on October 29, 2018, 08:25:42 AM
Persona wasn't on my radar at all, but I guess the newer games being successful earned it the spot.

Would have preferred Kula World over Intelligent Qube and Abe's Exoddus over Abe's Oddysee, but it's a decent list overall.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: demi on October 29, 2018, 08:43:12 AM
Good solid list. Persona is a huge surprise but LOL its so obtuse with its bad translation rip
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: demi on October 29, 2018, 08:43:39 AM
The Japanese list is WAY better

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Arc the Lad
Arc the Lad 2
Armored Core
Ridge Racer Type 4
Intelligent Qube
Gradius Gaiden
XI [sái]
SaGa Frontier
G Darius
Jumping Flash
Super Puzzle Fighter IIX
Tekken 3
Toshinden
Biohazard (RE1) Director's Cut
Parasite Eve
Final Fantasy VII International
Mr. Driller
Persona 1
Metal Gear Solid
Wild Arms
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Nabbis on October 29, 2018, 08:52:51 AM
For some reason the first playstation always looked like a Japanese tech toilet to me... So ugly.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: benjipwns on October 29, 2018, 08:53:18 AM
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Grand Theft Auto
Battle Arena Toshinden
Ridge Racer Type 4
Mr Driller
Metal Gear Solid
Twisted Metal
Oddworld: Abe’s Oddysee
Syphon Filter
Rayman
Tekken 3
Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six
Wild Arms
Jumping Flash!
Cool Boarders 2
Final Fantasy VII
Destruction Derby
Revelations: Persona
Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo
Intelligent Qube
Resident Evil Director’s Cut
how about you go ahead and take that garbage Rainbow Six In Name Only mess off there and put Twisted Metal 2, you know, the classic one, on there
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: demi on October 29, 2018, 08:54:34 AM
Lineup is the same as the shit I see on CraigsList. All common games and that ONE hard to find game (Persona) hoping you'll buy it all in one swoop
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: mormapope on October 29, 2018, 10:16:10 AM
That NA line up is pretty damn lame. Where's Syphon Filter? Front Mission 3? Tony Hawk pro Skater 2? Vagrant Story?!

The PS1 has a really fucking good library and of course Sony shits the bed gathering any of them together.

Syphon Filter is there, my bad, eyes are crusty. Point still stands. Rainbow Six should get kicked the fuck out.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: demi on October 29, 2018, 10:28:11 AM
Seems to be including games that arent available to purchase at all on PSN. Or just games that ARE supported but not released (since it is probably using the PS1 emulator they have)

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Not on PSN/PSP/Vita:

Tekken 3
Revelations: Persona

Available on PSN/PSP/Vita:

Grand Theft Auto (JPN only)
Battle Arena Toshinden (JPN only)
Ridge Raceer Type 4
Mr. Driller
Metal Gear Solid
Twisted Metal
Oddworld: Abe’s Oddysee
Syphon Filter
Rayman
Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six
Wild Arms
Jumping Flash!
Cool Boarders 2
Final Fantasy VII
Destruction Derby
Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo (JPN only)
Intelligent Qube (JPN only)
Resident Evil Director’s Cut
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: tiesto on October 29, 2018, 10:29:37 AM
The Japanese list is WAY better

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Arc the Lad
Arc the Lad 2
Armored Core
Ridge Racer Type 4
Intelligent Qube
Gradius Gaiden
XI [sái]
SaGa Frontier
G Darius
Jumping Flash
Super Puzzle Fighter IIX
Tekken 3
Toshinden
Biohazard (RE1) Director's Cut
Parasite Eve
Final Fantasy VII International
Mr. Driller
Persona 1
Metal Gear Solid
Wild Arms

Damn, that list shits all over the American one. What's XI?
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: mormapope on October 29, 2018, 10:32:42 AM
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Metal Gear Solid
Syphon Filter
Dino Crisis
Parasite Eve
Front Mission 3
Parappa the rapper
Twisted Metal 2
Final Fantasy VII
THPS2
Tekken 3
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Vagrant Story
Persona 2
Final Fantasy Tactics
Chrono Cross
Bushido Blade 2
Oddworld: Abe’s Oddysee
Intelligent Qube
Tenchu
Resident Evil 2

What should've been the actual list.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: demi on October 29, 2018, 10:34:14 AM
Damn, that list shits all over the American one. What's XI?

Devil Dice
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: paprikastaude on October 29, 2018, 10:54:10 AM
When they revealed the og 5 titles on it, it was pretty clear that this would be an embarassment. Actually, there's more big IPs than I expected (though still missing tons of titles that are more necessary than Wild Arms and Cool Boarders) - however, for the big gets they also seemingly chose the inferior entries all the time (GTA, RE, Persona,...).
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Tasty on October 29, 2018, 11:13:21 AM
Looks like a good list to me but I'm a filthy PS normie.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: demi on October 29, 2018, 11:16:13 AM
I dont think its a terrible lineup but considering the other choices out there there has to be some weird licensing issue for whatever reason...... on sony products

Like, parasite eve for JP but not NA?
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: bork on October 29, 2018, 11:21:20 AM
Looks like a good list to me but I'm a filthy PS normie.

It's not terrible like demi said, but there's some glaring omissions here.  Like...Rainbow Six over Castlevania Symphony Of The Night?  No Wipeout?  No Tenchu? 
 :nope

Licensing issues have got to be part of the problem.  Maybe what stopped games like Gran Turismo and Tony Hawk'd Pro Skater from being included.  At least put in Motor Toon Grand Prix.  :'(
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Himu on October 29, 2018, 12:18:18 PM
Lmao sony

I’ll continue running the ol ps2 through component for ps1 action instead.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Himu on October 29, 2018, 12:22:40 PM
Gta2 > gta1
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: bork on October 29, 2018, 12:27:19 PM
Lmao sony

I’ll continue running the ol ps2 through component for ps1 action instead.

There's a cheap HDMI cable that's about to come out for PS2, too.  It's not the best and doesn't offer progressive scan though.  I'm probably going to end up getting one of those $100 Retrotink 2X upscalers.

Gta2 > gta1

Right??  Why would they go with GTA1 over GTA2 and Twisted Metal over Twisted Metal 2 for that matter?
:mindblown
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Himu on October 29, 2018, 12:54:32 PM
To give Nintendo’s credit, because they’ve done so many collections and virtual console stuff they know what players consider is good. This is Sony’s first ever compilation of games like this. In the past they just dumped the games on psn so they don’t know what’s good.

I doubt ps1’s capability of looking good on hdmi. But eh. Component works for that system very well.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Himu on October 29, 2018, 12:57:42 PM
Also I can’t believe they made this without ape escape. Sony is dumb. Psx has analog sticks most of its life. Lmao
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: bork on October 29, 2018, 01:18:49 PM
To give Nintendo’s credit, because they’ve done so many collections and virtual console stuff they know what players consider is good. This is Sony’s first ever compilation of games like this. In the past they just dumped the games on psn so they don’t know what’s good.

I doubt ps1’s capability of looking good on hdmi. But eh. Component works for that system very well.

Don't think you need to be a rocket scientist to take a look at the most popular games on the system and make a compilation out of it.  There's some top selling games that didn't make it in and it's a bit of a head-scratcher.  Tomb Raider is another game that comes to mind.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: bork on October 29, 2018, 01:20:58 PM
Let's put a positive spin on this- Sony is saving you $99!
:rejoice
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Himu on October 29, 2018, 01:21:44 PM
Wasn’t going to get it for 99 anyways
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: paprikastaude on October 29, 2018, 01:29:24 PM
One of the GOAT libraries was basically wasted on something NES Mini-tier, instead of channeling SNES Mini, which did surprisingly well with its 20 spots (though in both cases it's still way too few). I wanted to be edgy and get Jumping Flash used, since this is the thing that would interest me the most. But that shit goes for like 60€  :crazy

Right??  Why would they go with GTA1 over GTA2 and Twisted Metal over Twisted Metal 2 for that matter?
:mindblown

This would feel much better if it had Resident Evil 2, GTA 2, Twisted Metal 2, Persona 2...
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Himu on October 29, 2018, 01:38:31 PM
The 2’s of that era :drakeok
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: bork on October 29, 2018, 01:40:13 PM
One of the GOAT libraries was basically wasted on something NES Mini-tier, instead of channeling SNES Mini, which did surprisingly well with its 20 spots (though in both cases it's still way too few). I wanted to be edgy and get Jumping Flash used, since this is the thing that would interest me the most. But that shit goes for like 60€  :crazy

Right??  Why would they go with GTA1 over GTA2 and Twisted Metal over Twisted Metal 2 for that matter?
:mindblown

This would feel much better if it had Resident Evil 2, GTA 2, Twisted Metal 2, Persona 2...

Just get the Japanese version of Jumping Flash! 2.  It includes the original game for free.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Tasty on October 29, 2018, 01:44:52 PM
PSTV really does seem like the better deal, as long as the service works.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: demi on October 29, 2018, 01:45:55 PM
"There's a system out there for the people who truly want to create their own PlayStation Classics. It's called the Vita" - Don Mattrick, somewhere
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Himu on October 29, 2018, 01:46:50 PM
My list.

I’d put in dual shock 1’s and expand the list.

Arc the Lad
Armored Core
Ridge Racer Type 4
GTA2
Intelligent Qube
Crash Bandicoot 2
Medievil
G Darius
Devil Dice
Ore no Ryouri translated into English
Jet Moto 2
Ray Storm
Sled Storm
Bust A Groove
Soul Reaver
Ape Escape
Jumping Flash
Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo
Tekken 3
Toshinden
Resident Evil Director's Cut
Resident Evil 2
Resident Evil 3
Parasite Eve
Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 2
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy Tactics
Mr. Driller
Persona 2 EP
Metal Gear Solid
Wild Arms
Suikoden 1
Suikoden II
Parappa the Rapper
Wipeout XL
Ace Combat 2
Spyro 1
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: bork on October 29, 2018, 01:57:18 PM
PSTV really does seem like the better deal, as long as the service works.

You'd have to spend more to buy a memory card and a controller, but yeah.  Haven't looked into homebrew in a long time but pretty sure you can install whatever games you want on it now.

Am still hoping for someone to announce that the PS1 Classic is just a repurposed PSTV in a new shell and easily hacked.  :P
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Svejk on October 29, 2018, 01:57:43 PM
Jet Moto 2
Jet Moto 1 was light years better than 2.  Part 2 was total trash.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: bork on October 29, 2018, 02:04:40 PM
Would have been great to have had something released with the system that never got an English release prior, like the Sony equivalent to Nintendo including Starfox 2 with the SNES Classic Mini.  First thing that comes to mind is Tobal 2.  Number two would be Slap Happy Rhythm Busters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy7UgXo9RoY
:lawd
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Himu on October 29, 2018, 02:31:38 PM
Jet Moto 2
Jet Moto 1 was light years better than 2.  Part 2 was total trash.

Oh. It’s been a while. Thanks for the correction.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Trent Dole on October 29, 2018, 03:37:58 PM
lol $100 for that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahCgADqInX8
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: paprikastaude on October 29, 2018, 03:51:01 PM
Street Fighter Tetris :confused  There's already Mr. Driller and Intelligent Cube, so why that over real Street Fighter, or Dino Crisis, Tomba, Strider 2...
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Himu on October 29, 2018, 04:28:53 PM
Street Fighter Tetris :confused  There's already Mr. Driller and Intelligent Cube, so why that over real Street Fighter, or Dino Crisis, Tomba, Strider 2...

It’s a classic. The only street fighter on psx worth putting on it is Alpha 3. I love alpha 2 but the psx version sucks and has long load times. There’s too many good ps1 games.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 29, 2018, 04:43:50 PM
Not a bad list for the Western release, but there's so many great games that get left off when there's only space for 20 games.

Also, no Tony Hawk? Come on, fam.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: tiesto on October 29, 2018, 06:29:56 PM
Not a bad list for the Western release, but there's so many great games that get left off when there's only space for 20 games.

Also, no Tony Hawk? Come on, fam.

I could at least understand Tony Hawk due to the soundtrack licensing...
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: thisismyusername on October 29, 2018, 09:54:56 PM
That NA line up is pretty damn lame. Where's Syphon Filter? Front Mission 3? Tony Hawk pro Skater 2? Vagrant Story?!

The PS1 has a really fucking good library and of course Sony shits the bed gathering any of them together.

Syphon Filter is there, my bad, eyes are crusty. Point still stands. Rainbow Six should get kicked the fuck out.

I dunno. Metal Gear Solid, Coolboarders 2 (can understand why people wouldn't be jazzed about this, but I am personally), Wild Arms, Final Fantasy 7, Ridge Racer Type 4, Intelligent Qube (this is the WTF of the list, but I love it, played the shit out of the demo), Tekken 3, Super Puzzle Fighter Turbo, Biohazard/Resident Evil: Director's Cut and Rayman are all solid/classics.

There's a few clunkers (GTA isn't as good as GTA2 IMO, and this doesn't include the 1969 expansion), Persona (WTF, you can play the PSP retranslation on a goddamn phone if not your goddamn PSP. This TERRIBLE translation is there for JRPG fans that don't want FF7 and Wild Arms? REALLY?). But that list is mostly solid for the US.

The only thing I'd want from Japan is Armored Core and Parasite Eve. But you can't get them all. :/

I'd still say to get a Raspberry Pi, like I have for all these mini-consoles that are limited in their selection.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Mupepe on October 29, 2018, 10:10:39 PM
I’d suck a big fat dick to get intelligent qube in the US version.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: thisismyusername on October 29, 2018, 10:11:25 PM
I’d suck a big fat dick to get intelligent qube in the US version.

You're in luck it's in the US version. ;)
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Himu on October 29, 2018, 10:13:26 PM
Whose dick did you suck to make it happen?

Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 29, 2018, 10:27:55 PM
Whose dick did you suck to make it happen?

(https://i.imgur.com/xjVXZXl.jpg)
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: naff on October 30, 2018, 12:36:24 AM
I'd dump GTA, Wild Arms and Rainbow Six at least. Would love to see Tombi, Wipeout and Alundra. Buying on the assumption it will be hackable. Don't care for SPF2 or Mr Driller either. Hard af to get a satisfying 20, but there's a fair few filler slots here. Really surprised the only popular adventure platformer that makes the list is Rayman (oops and Oddworld. Yeah I guess they're prob most popular/had the highest sales? Idk eh). Would pass on that every time for Klonoa DTP, Tombi 1, Pandemonium, Heart of Darkness or Castlevania SOTN. 

I really liked GTA at the time when I didn't know better, and it would prob be regarded more fondly if it had analogue top down shooter controls, but the tank controls designed for the pre analogue era are beyond frustrating.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 30, 2018, 03:27:01 AM
Gta2 > gta1

Lol no
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 30, 2018, 04:18:36 AM
"There's a system out there for the people who truly want to create their own PlayStation Classics. It's called the Vita" - Don Mattrick, somewhere
For me it's the PS3.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: benjipwns on October 30, 2018, 04:48:11 AM
Like, can we take a look at this shit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfmfDlhSp9I

You can't/don't assign tasks to your teammates, there's no preplanning other than the entry point, it's just a god awful framerate PS1 FPS where you can hop into the other members if you die.

If they wanted a FPS, put fucking Medal of Honor on here. Or Disruptor! (And then hide PO'ed! somewhere.)
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: benjipwns on October 30, 2018, 04:49:16 AM
I'm sorry Mr. Clancy, I'm just more upset how Twisted Metal 2 isn't on there.

Also I was never going to buy this anyway, so my ANGER IS EXTRA IMPORTANT AND RELEVANT!
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Himu on October 30, 2018, 04:51:19 AM
Medal of Honor was the shit.

And Lager you’re wrong. Gta2 >>>> 1
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: paprikastaude on October 30, 2018, 05:59:37 AM
That NA line up is pretty damn lame. Where's Syphon Filter? Front Mission 3? Tony Hawk pro Skater 2? Vagrant Story?!

The PS1 has a really fucking good library and of course Sony shits the bed gathering any of them together.

Syphon Filter is there, my bad, eyes are crusty. Point still stands. Rainbow Six should get kicked the fuck out.

I dunno. Metal Gear Solid, Coolboarders 2 (can understand why people wouldn't be jazzed about this, but I am personally), Wild Arms, Final Fantasy 7, Ridge Racer Type 4, Intelligent Qube (this is the WTF of the list, but I love it, played the shit out of the demo), Tekken 3, Super Puzzle Fighter Turbo, Biohazard/Resident Evil: Director's Cut and Rayman are all solid/classics.

There's a few clunkers (GTA isn't as good as GTA2 IMO, and this doesn't include the 1969 expansion), Persona (WTF, you can play the PSP retranslation on a goddamn phone if not your goddamn PSP. This TERRIBLE translation is there for JRPG fans that don't want FF7 and Wild Arms? REALLY?). But that list is mostly solid for the US.

The only thing I'd want from Japan is Armored Core and Parasite Eve. But you can't get them all. :/

I'd still say to get a Raspberry Pi, like I have for all these mini-consoles that are limited in their selection.

It's okay, but not adequate if you're doing just 20 games. It's as if SNES Mini got Breath of Fire instead of FF6 and Actraiser 2 over Castlevania. Some might actually prefer the former and there's now more games on this thing that I don't own yet, but you still gotta cover the basics/big hitters/really seldom classics if you want that 80-100$ pull.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: chronovore on October 30, 2018, 08:13:26 AM
Also I can’t believe they made this without ape escape. Sony is dumb. Psx has analog sticks most of its life. Lmao

Playstation — December 3, 1994
Dual Analog Controller — April 25, 1997
Playstation 2 — March 4, 2000

Your nostalgia or anecdotal experience isn't serving you well, here.

That's about half it's life. A bit less if you count to the introduction of the PS2. You could readily argue that the PS1 had legs beyond introduction of the PS2, but most publishers jumped ship to that new console with alacrity.

Most games didn't use them. Making games which required or even took strong advantage of the nonstandard hardware is a quick way to limit the potential sales base.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Himu on October 30, 2018, 11:11:09 AM
Ehhh. I mean. Ps2 came out in 2000 but most people didn’t jump in until 2001.

Also, while you could argue it came out “late” in its life, 1997 is prime ps2. FF7 came out in 97. The system didn’t get busy in a big way until specifically that year. Most people got PlayStations in 97 or 98. So it coming out in 97 is pretty impactful. Let’s not forget that back then, rumble was a huge, new, defining feature. Few people didn’t upgrade to at least one dual shock once it came out after the dual analog.

Finally, you are relying on Japanese release dates. I am not Japanese, I’m American. And the ps1 came out in September 95. So by our perspective, dual analog controller came out less than two years into its life. So uh, definitely not nostalgia. When you consider that its biggest games used analog, and sony based an entire, iconic game around the set up, that most of us were still using our systems and playing ps1 well into 2001 (Final Fantasy IX, Vagrant Story, and Chrono Cross all came out in 2000) it’s like the equivalent of a N64 mini not having 64 Ram upgrade games. The dual analog was an iconic, integral part of the system and to criticise Sony for not having it in a mini PlayStation isn’t nostalgia. Especially given the entire point of the mini system is...nostalgia.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: bork on October 30, 2018, 11:21:49 AM
Also I can’t believe they made this without ape escape. Sony is dumb. Psx has analog sticks most of its life. Lmao

Playstation — December 3, 1994
Dual Analog Controller — April 25, 1997
Playstation 2 — March 4, 2000

Your nostalgia or anecdotal experience isn't serving you well, here.

That's about half it's life. A bit less if you count to the introduction of the PS2. You could readily argue that the PS1 had legs beyond introduction of the PS2, but most publishers jumped ship to that new console with alacrity.

Most games didn't use them. Making games which required or even took strong advantage of the nonstandard hardware is a quick way to limit the potential sales base.

Dual analog/Dual Shock was still a pretty big deal.  There were games released in bundles with the controller like Tekken 3 and games re-released for it like Resident Evil Director's Cut. 

And it's not like the PS1 just went away after the PS2 came out- especially when the console launched outside of Japan towards the end of 2000. Capcom released Dino Crisis 2, Mega Man Legends 2, and Breath Of Fire IV, Square released Vagrant Story and Final Fantasy IX, and Activision released Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2, Spider-Man, and Tenchu 2 in 2000 for example.  Sony also re-released the PS1 as the PSone with the optional attachable screen turning it into a semi-portable console that breathed some new life into the system. 
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Himu on October 30, 2018, 11:27:44 AM
Remember when Capcom re-released Resident Evil 1 and 2 to have rumble?

I mean chrono, I’m seeing your point but saying it came out in 97 and therefore  half way through the systems life makes no sense.

Here’s some of the best selling psx games as per Wikipedia:

Gran Turismo (10.85 million shipped)[1][2]
Final Fantasy VII (9.72 million)[3]
Gran Turismo 2 (9.97 million shipped)[1][2]
Final Fantasy VIII (7.86 million shipped)
Crash Bandicoot 3: Warped (7.13 million)[4]
Crash Bandicoot (6.82 million)[4]
Metal Gear Solid (6.03 million)[4]
Final Fantasy IX (5.30 million approximately;)[5]
Tomb Raider II (5.24 million)[4]
Crash Bandicoot 2: Cortex Strikes Back (5.17 million)

Correct me if I’m wrong here but of these games, only Gran Turismo 1, FFVII, and Crash Bandicoot 1 didn’t support analog.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Bebpo on October 30, 2018, 02:31:36 PM
Seems like good lists both US and JPN. With so many good games on the system, it'd be tough to make a great list that satisfied everyone in under 50 games.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: chronovore on October 30, 2018, 11:57:21 PM
Maybe it's my own anecdotal experience that's betraying me?

I was on-board with the PS (1) from the beginning, and almost all the games I remember strongly were all d-pad, and I didn't get Analog Controller-styled thing until the very end-of-life for my PS. OTOH, the DualShock 2 with PS2 is where I associate analog control being associated with gameplay. You guys are probably right.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: benjipwns on October 31, 2018, 12:50:22 AM
Analog controller didn't come out in the U.S. until August 1997. Dual Shock came out in Japan in November 1997 and the Dual Shock came out in U.S. in May 1998. When the Dual Shock became available in a territory Sony officially dropped support for the earlier version.

BUT and I think this might settle some stuff up here.

Sony had sent the analog controllers and their libraries around in the fall of 1996. That's how it had support in all the newest games in Japan when it came out. As I'm sure Chrono knows, Japan tended to get hardware with a tiny bit of software, there'd be a wait and then finally software. But this wasn't the case for a change, the latest titles like Bushido Blade already had it built in even though the game came out in Japan a month before the controller did. So by the time many of those games came to the U.S. they had already had it built in sometimes up to a year or more in Japan, with the U.S. controller release still to come.

Sony has long claimed they had the analog controller in development BEFORE the N64 truly showed, it just confirmed to them that it was viable when someone like Nintendo makes it the main part of their controller. I'm sure there's some fudging there but they probably had messed with the various ideas, you had stuff like the NegCon that used analog controls already available and supported in non-Namco games even. I imagine Sony had a variety of prototypes sitting there and when they saw the N64 controller said "alright, let's actually do one of these."

The original analog controller actually has a third mode on it, the Dual Shocks don't, it emulates Sony's Analog FLIGHTSTICK that games like WarHawk and Descent used. So it actually allows analog usage in games that don't have "true" support for the new controller. And there was probably some part of Sony's skunkworks trying to translate those sticks into a smaller controller that led to the dual analogs partly.

But because of the fact that it was an add-on, there weren't many analog-only titles, so PS2 was really the first time they knew you had the analogs. I never had any PS1 analog controllers personally, I was d-pad until "the end" which basically meant when I shifted over to PC/Dreamcast around 1998-99 and only kept up with a few PS1 games including some like TONY HAWK that were superior with the d-pad come fight me rite now.

I actually had a dual analog stick THRUSTMASTER controller for my PC before I did a console.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: benjipwns on October 31, 2018, 12:51:50 AM
The first US dual analog also had lonnnggger handles FOR THOSE GIANT AMERICAN HANDS, then Sony standardized it across territories with the Dual Shock:
(http://www.the-nextlevel.com/features/hardware/dual-analog-pad/dual-analog-on-shock.jpg)

And the top of the sticks were like Xbox ones, concave instead of convex.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Himu on October 31, 2018, 02:54:59 AM
Maybe it's my own anecdotal experience that's betraying me?

I was on-board with the PS (1) from the beginning, and almost all the games I remember strongly were all d-pad, and I didn't get Analog Controller-styled thing until the very end-of-life for my PS. OTOH, the DualShock 2 with PS2 is where I associate analog control being associated with gameplay. You guys are probably right.

I think it’s...complicated.

Here’s the thing about PlayStation 1. It wasn’t like ps2 where analog was required. All the games with few exceptions that had analog were playable with d-pad. So you could get by and it wasn’t a necessity to buy a dual shock. But we were teens during this systems life. And having something like rumble was nothing to scoff at. Stuff like analog sticks and rumble were really cool, neat, innovative features for the time that enhanced the games for a lot of us. So to us its absence is confusing. But as I said, again, it also wasn’t a requirement. So both experiences are actually valid.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: bork on October 31, 2018, 07:54:49 AM
Maybe it's my own anecdotal experience that's betraying me?

I was on-board with the PS (1) from the beginning, and almost all the games I remember strongly were all d-pad, and I didn't get Analog Controller-styled thing until the very end-of-life for my PS. OTOH, the DualShock 2 with PS2 is where I associate analog control being associated with gameplay. You guys are probably right.

I was working at a game shop during this time and remember the dual analog and then dual shock being a big deal (the Saturn analog controller much, much less so) at the time, plus all the games that followed that made use of it.  People were nuts for stuff like this back then.  Anything 3D and/or with controller rumble was huge. 

Analog controls in some games were also a thing before Sony's controllers.  Namco released their Negcon controller in 1995 and a number non-Namco racing games were compatible with it, plus the Ace Combat games and Tempest X3.

That reminds me- Rally Cross was another popular Sony title that could have been on the Classic.  :doge  It had 4P split-screen which was rare for the PS1.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: benjipwns on October 31, 2018, 09:06:05 AM
4P split-screen got increasingly popular after Rally Cross did it. Some of the more impressive versions of it were Crash Team Racing, Quake II and Sled Storm. A lot of them are like say, Twisted Metal 4 though, where the framerate is only good on like two of the maps.

Funny enough, Rally Cross 2 is only 2-player.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: paprikastaude on November 03, 2018, 08:47:43 AM
Thinking about it, such a list of B-tier games might have have its perks. I'd be interested in trying several of these games out, for which I wouldn't really want to go through the hassle of getting them on their own legally (or even as ROMs) these days. Yet I might pick them up if they're on such a collection. Certainly not for full price though, we might start talking once this thing goes down to something like 60 - and preferably it should have enough space to be properly hackable. lol if the rumours are true and this will be just as limited as the og NES Mini release, then they can fuck off. SNES Mini though I nowadays see price-reduced in retail stores, so hopefully it's more like that.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 03, 2018, 10:03:52 AM
Thinking about it, such a list of B-tier games might have have its perks.

A lot of the bigger PS1 games have been rereleased [or are likely to be rereleased at some point], so this does give some new life to decent games from that era that have gotten overlooked in the years since. There's some value to that.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Raist on November 03, 2018, 02:31:29 PM
Whose dick did you suck to make it happen?

(https://i.imgur.com/xjVXZXl.jpg)


He sucked THREE dicks? wow.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: bork on November 03, 2018, 02:48:16 PM
Whose dick did you suck to make it happen?

(https://i.imgur.com/xjVXZXl.jpg)


He sucked THREE dicks? wow.

In a row?
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 03, 2018, 07:10:08 PM
Whose dick did you suck to make it happen?

(https://i.imgur.com/xjVXZXl.jpg)


He sucked THREE dicks? wow.

In a row?

You've heard of "two in the pink, one in the stink" now it's time for "two in the stink, two more in the stink*.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: chronovore on November 03, 2018, 10:25:26 PM
(…)
That reminds me- Rally Cross was another popular Sony title that could have been on the Classic.  :doge  It had 4P split-screen which was rare for the PS1.

Which would likely be the reason it's not included. Because the PS1 mini is a thing, but the PS1 MultiTap is not a thing, and consumers would have beseeched Sony for instructions on how to play…
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: bork on November 03, 2018, 11:23:54 PM
(…)
That reminds me- Rally Cross was another popular Sony title that could have been on the Classic.  :doge  It had 4P split-screen which was rare for the PS1.

Which would likely be the reason it's not included. Because the PS1 mini is a thing, but the PS1 MultiTap is not a thing, and consumers would have beseeched Sony for instructions on how to play…

Missed opportunities to have had four ports or a mini multitap and sell extra controllers.  Nintendo will show them how it's done with the N64 Classic Mini.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 04, 2018, 09:00:13 PM
I don't understand this game list
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: benjipwns on November 07, 2018, 02:51:11 PM
I have heard some speculation that as these "classic mini" consoles move into the PS1/N64 and forward era that licensing and emulation is playing increasing problems. The NES and SNES have been for all purposes "perfectly" emulated by fans for ages now, let alone Nintendo.

The PS1 and N64 have yet to reach that state with either the fanbase or the companies themselves. Most people forget for example that the PS2's list of PS1 games that "didn't work" with the console increased with every revision of the hardware and certain Slim models can have some serious issues.

Lots was made of the fact that Sony reused the PS1 CPU in the PS2 and while that helped the console was still doing emulation of the GTE on the EE/GS. Games that ignored certain Sony libraries had some of the largest issues. I believe the Slims got rid of the PS1 CPU altogether, and they made revisions to the EE/GS especially after it was made a single chip. This caused backwards compability issues with PS2 titles, the media didn't much care about PS1 backwards compability at that point but it also took hits from this. Even fewer people paid attention to the PS3's situation on this.

I believe Sony's PS1 emulator has been derived from the PSP version they created since they had to emulate everything finally. Much like Dolphin, where you can get better results running the VC versions of N64 games through it than through N64 specific emulators, PSPPP shows similar results running PS1 classics. (I think I saw one of the knowledgeable GAFfers recommend emulating that version of Symphony of the Night over using a PS1 emulator.)

Rainbow Six continues to be the most baffling inclusion of all unless it's some kind of UbiSoft representation thing. If/when the N64 mini comes out the first thing I'm looking for is that console's crappy Rainbow Six port alongside Rayman 2.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: demi on November 08, 2018, 08:37:10 AM
Eurogamer thinks this thing sucks shit

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-11-08-weve-played-the-playstation-classic-and-its-a-disappointment
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: demi on November 08, 2018, 09:04:17 AM
https://kotaku.com/playstation-classic-plays-fine-but-it-s-a-bare-bones-e-1830294616

Lol that UI

Kohler says its using PCSX Rearmed emulator.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: bork on November 08, 2018, 09:21:16 AM
https://kotaku.com/playstation-classic-plays-fine-but-it-s-a-bare-bones-e-1830294616

Lol that UI

Kohler says its using PCSX Rearmed emulator.

Did they use the Resident Evil Director's Cut box art that says it comes with a RE2 demo?  :lol
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: BisMarckie on November 08, 2018, 09:37:24 AM
https://kotaku.com/playstation-classic-plays-fine-but-it-s-a-bare-bones-e-1830294616

Lol that UI

Kohler says its using PCSX Rearmed emulator.

The inferior libretto core. :kobeyuck
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: paprikastaude on November 08, 2018, 09:57:59 AM
why they gotta fuck up one of the GOAT libraries so bad :stahp  When Sony copies something, you'd at least think they'd improve on it a bit. Should have at least been PSN compatible, like the PSTV. Speaking of which, I should've picked one up when those were thrown away for 20 bucks, but I was put off when they killed hacks to remove game-limitations at that time. It's going to annoy me when the narrative is gonna go like "see, this gen is trash", even though it's just the not so well made collection that's the problem.  :-\
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: tiesto on November 08, 2018, 10:13:03 AM
Surprised a lot of you guys are meh on Wild Arms. I mean there's definitely better rpgs on the system (an rpg-only PS1 classic would be awesome), but it's still a solid game with fun puzzle dungeons, an amazing soundtrack, and GOAT intro.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: MMaRsu on November 08, 2018, 10:25:05 AM
Sony saving me money  :lol
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: archie4208 on November 08, 2018, 10:29:33 AM
The fact it isn't an inhouse emulator is disappointing.  I'm probably going to skip it.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Himu on November 08, 2018, 07:13:48 PM
Holy shit they actually kept the purple splash background with that rainbow thing in the main menu setup. Nostalgia overload but not enough to buy it for 100 woolongs.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: chronovore on November 09, 2018, 06:39:42 AM
(…)
That reminds me- Rally Cross was another popular Sony title that could have been on the Classic.  :doge  It had 4P split-screen which was rare for the PS1.

Which would likely be the reason it's not included. Because the PS1 mini is a thing, but the PS1 MultiTap is not a thing, and consumers would have beseeched Sony for instructions on how to play…

Missed opportunities to have had four ports or a mini multitap and sell extra controllers.  Nintendo will show them how it's done with the N64 Classic Mini.

But that's my entire point: the N64 ships with four controller ports, it's feasible that two people who each buy their N64 Mini Classic can just use their controllers. This is how the Switch works. In your scenario, SOMEONE has to have the MultiTap.

Everything about appliance construction is doing an ROI on cost-of-goods. I mean, Sony could have just as easily built MultiTap functionality into the base unit. They decided that isn't what the product would be about. 
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: paprikastaude on November 09, 2018, 09:02:51 AM
Kotaku says some of the games are the PAL versions  :crazy  Yeah, I'm really better off picking up some of its few hidden gems that I missed via the used market, if they can't even get rid of the 50hz.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Rufus on November 09, 2018, 01:03:56 PM
The emulator will likely have a simple switch for that. Though it is puzzling that they're using the PAL versions in the first place.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: demi on November 09, 2018, 01:09:09 PM
This is literally just a retroPie in a cute playstation shell. I hate to use that phrase but at least the Nintendo was using their own shit. Sony already has a pretty good PS1 emulator on the Vita/PSP
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Tasty on November 09, 2018, 08:07:33 PM
but at least the Nintendo was using their own shit.

Well, except for some of the ROMs maybe (https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-01-18-did-nintendo-download-a-mario-rom-and-sell-it-back-to-us).
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: paprikastaude on November 09, 2018, 10:26:00 PM
Next up, Sega, show us what you got  :bolo  (Please Castlevania Bloodlines and Hard Corps - to make the MD/Genesis Mini worthwhile compared to all the existing collections)
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: thisismyusername on November 09, 2018, 10:59:17 PM
I hate to use that phrase but at least the Nintendo was using their own shit.

Yeah no. They pirate their shit and then C&D the rom sites to try to sell it back to you. Don't put them on a pedestal, dude. :doge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLWY7fCXUwE

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Sony already has a pretty good PS1 emulator on the Vita/PSP

This is really the WTF of the whole thing. AFAIK POPS is on PS3 as well.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: demi on November 10, 2018, 01:42:11 AM
Who is talking about the roms? Lmao
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: benjipwns on November 10, 2018, 08:40:34 AM
Huh, nobody's done a teardown yet? GiantBomb/CBS/GameSpot opened one of their NES Classics the hour they got it. :lol
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Himu on November 10, 2018, 02:04:50 PM
Eurogamer has reviewed it and said it sucked
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: bork on November 26, 2018, 01:38:21 PM
https://twitter.com/MarkMan23/status/1067122274795429895

 :kobeyuck
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: MMaRsu on November 26, 2018, 02:26:11 PM
https://twitter.com/MarkMan23/status/1067122274795429895

 :kobeyuck

YUCK indeed
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 26, 2018, 04:38:59 PM
Srsly why didn't they ask me to help them, I could have made that thing the best
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: bork on November 26, 2018, 07:59:15 PM
https://twitter.com/USgamernet/status/1067202420298510336

(https://i.imgur.com/k6dl8aC.gif)
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: benjipwns on November 26, 2018, 08:07:36 PM
Did they outsource this?

Grabbing an open source emulator over using their own emulator, using only one version of the games across regions, etc. sounds like the kind of things you'd do if you didn't have full access to the resources.

edit: Thinking about it, it could explain using digital only controllers too. I can't imagine the cost savings to Sony being that high considering how long they have produced the Dual Shock and its near identical mold successors. But a third/second party producer might find it far more valuable to shrink the design.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 26, 2018, 08:14:47 PM
Kaz didn't die for this.  :japancry
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Himu on November 26, 2018, 08:34:55 PM
:lol
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 26, 2018, 08:47:55 PM
https://twitter.com/USgamernet/status/1067202420298510336

(https://i.imgur.com/k6dl8aC.gif)

That ain't it, chief.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Himu on November 26, 2018, 08:53:13 PM
Exodust might be right in that arrogant Sony is back :lol
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: thisismyusername on November 26, 2018, 09:02:07 PM
Who is talking about the roms? Lmao

That doesn't negate my point: Nintendo goes out of their way to shutdown rom sites while turning around and selling roms from said rom sites back to you for $50 a pop. What makes them any different from Sony? If anything they're worse because their hardware is probably the same shitty-ass retro-console hardware that forgetting-that-company-that-does-all-in-ones uses. Just without the ability to put the actual 1980's cart into the hardware.

You (and anyone without a brain) should get a clue and skip the middleman and just pirate the goddamn roms, anything from the PSX and earlier can be played on a goddamn toaster now a days.

https://twitter.com/USgamernet/status/1067202420298510336

So Sony can't even be assed to pirate the US versions. Pirates stay winning.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Tasty on November 26, 2018, 09:26:18 PM
Sixaxis all over again. Sony will always copy Nintendo... but poorly.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: bork on November 26, 2018, 09:46:49 PM
:goldberg
Sixaxis all over again. Sony will always copy Nintendo... but poorly.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Tasty on November 26, 2018, 09:48:56 PM
:P
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic ($100, 20 games, 2 controllers, December 3)
Post by: Rufus on November 27, 2018, 11:11:12 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqKi2XLFXzo
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Trent Dole on November 27, 2018, 01:53:28 PM
lol what the fuck is this shit sony pls
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Freyj on November 27, 2018, 02:51:47 PM
OTOH the lineup is still shit and the controller decision was always dumb as shit so I never really felt compelled to buy the thing in the first place

hello still sealed PSTV I got on deep discount years ago :rejoice

Here's hoping Microsoft somehow pulls one over on the PS5 with the Xbtoo
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: demi on November 28, 2018, 10:49:06 AM
16GB Flash Memory - definitely some workable space if this gets cracked open

(https://i.imgur.com/rGWzMrG.png)
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Rufus on December 03, 2018, 08:05:27 PM
Looks like they planned to include more games originally:
https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/a2ujxk/the_playstation_classics_custom_pcsx_rearmed/
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Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: The Sceneman on December 03, 2018, 08:28:54 PM
now THAT would've been a great game lineup.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: tiesto on December 03, 2018, 08:54:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYtDSEXPeaw

I like his list better :P
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: demi on December 04, 2018, 12:42:03 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNtAUwz8fqw

You can access emulator settings by plugging in a usb keyboard....
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: benjipwns on December 04, 2018, 12:56:04 AM
 :rofl
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: bork on December 04, 2018, 07:14:42 AM
Reportedly doesn't work with all keyboards but already off to a good start!  :lol
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 04, 2018, 07:22:20 AM
Sony is ass
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Tasty on December 04, 2018, 10:20:51 AM
Sony is ass

(https://media.giphy.com/media/10hexADl3Kl6SY/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: bork on December 04, 2018, 10:36:51 AM
Sony is ass

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61BwyXliWfL._UX679_.jpg)
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Tasty on December 04, 2018, 10:43:16 AM
Sony is ass

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61BwyXliWfL._UX679_.jpg)

I could literally fuck Sony in the ass :ohhh
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Svejk on December 05, 2018, 03:08:57 PM
Sony is ass

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61BwyXliWfL._UX679_.jpg)

I could literally fuck Sony in the ass :ohhh
Question is, is X to enter like the American version, or O like the Japanese one?   :ryker
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: CatsCatsCats on December 05, 2018, 03:13:35 PM
You could split the difference
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Tasty on December 05, 2018, 05:26:23 PM
:dead U guys kill me
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Nintex on December 05, 2018, 06:06:40 PM
This looks awful. Did no one during testing said: "You know guys, maybe we shouldn't release this"  :doge
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Tasty on December 05, 2018, 06:18:10 PM
This looks awful. Did no one during testing said: "You know guys, maybe we shouldn't release this"  :doge

If only they'd done that with the PS3 and Vita :fbm
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: demi on December 05, 2018, 10:51:31 PM
Japanese haxor loading ISO on PS Classic

https://twitter.com/bakueikozo/status/1070463458011832321
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Trent Dole on December 06, 2018, 04:20:01 AM
Here's a lovely giant nitpicky analysis of just how much this thing utterly and completely fucking sucks from that dork1x guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU0dn9pRKuw
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: demi on December 06, 2018, 08:09:53 AM
YifanLu (switch hacker and vita/ps4 hacker) said on a stream that it should be as easy as putting in a USB stick and jailbreaking it to be able to run your own games on it.

Apparently they encrypted the files/firmware with a public key or some such, making it super easy to access the OS

https://twitter.com/yifanlu/status/1070483458265243648
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: demi on December 06, 2018, 08:45:54 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76r1erSP9ms
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: bork on December 06, 2018, 09:32:48 AM
Two days later and already has ISOs running.
:dead
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 06, 2018, 02:11:17 PM
Might actually buy one now if it’s that easy
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Nintex on December 06, 2018, 05:51:48 PM
Basically any device that runs PS1 games (including PSP/PS2/PS3 and my shitty PC emulator to play Dragonball games with back in high school) run PS1 games better than the PS Classic does.

Running games at 50hz with a 60hz output and that sound reverb glitch.... what the fuck were they thinking.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: chronovore on December 06, 2018, 08:18:27 PM
In terms of quality/cost of controllers and core hardware, is it possible to just overwrite the content with whatever you like? Or is it all un-write-able?
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: nachobro on December 06, 2018, 08:23:11 PM
if its that easy to boot ISOs might as well just plug in a USB HDD and have every PS1 game on there (or all the good ones)
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: benjipwns on December 06, 2018, 10:44:21 PM
or all the terrible ones :phil
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: CatsCatsCats on December 06, 2018, 11:11:54 PM
Seems to me this thing has too many negatives to the point where the ol “just make an emu box” line really carries some weight here

I keep seeing weird knock off gameboy things advertised on Facebook and it makes me want to just do the research on what hardware is out there and build a custom portable emu thingy, ground up. Might be a fun garage proj
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: bork on December 06, 2018, 11:17:04 PM
Seems to me this thing has too many negatives to the point where the ol “just make an emu box” line really carries some weight here

I keep seeing weird knock off gameboy things advertised on Facebook and it makes me want to just do the research on what hardware is out there and build a custom portable emu thingy, ground up. Might be a fun garage proj

I've already got a GPD WIN 2 for portable emulation fun, but just went and ordered a RetroPi kit tonight.  Costs less than the PS Classic, too.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Nintex on December 07, 2018, 06:45:44 PM
The SNES Classic has hardware capable of emulating the PlayStation better than the PS Classic does.  :doge
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: thisismyusername on December 07, 2018, 07:31:56 PM
I keep seeing weird knock off gameboy things advertised on Facebook and it makes me want to just do the research on what hardware is out there and build a custom portable emu thingy, ground up. Might be a fun garage proj

Raspberry Pi 3B or Zero + Solar Pi + buttons/3D printer shell. Final destination.

Enjoy.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: BisMarckie on December 07, 2018, 09:00:15 PM
or all the terrible ones :phil

I was so excited for the Spawn and the Fifth Element games. The magazine I was reading back then hyped them up so much prerelease. I especially remember The Fifth Element to be a glorious trainwreck. :lawd
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: bork on December 08, 2018, 09:07:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ej90W_ZB_k

Looks like doing this means no 2P games, unless you can get an adapter for the micro-USB power port and run a stick from there.

But no thanks- I'm about to go ahead and get this Raspberry Pi kit set up instead.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: demi on December 09, 2018, 12:38:45 AM
Lol, nice hot take on a preliminary method of adding games.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Himu on December 12, 2018, 03:13:11 PM
HAHAHAHAHA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol12g5GxI7Y
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: benjipwns on December 12, 2018, 08:34:55 PM
Defiling Nintendo hardware with Sony software. :donot
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 12, 2018, 08:39:37 PM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1a/DraculaSNES_boxart.jpg)
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: benjipwns on December 13, 2018, 01:06:14 AM
You missed an opportunity to go with Cliffhanger, Mickey Mania or 3 Ninjas Kick Back imo
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: MMaRsu on December 13, 2018, 05:09:09 AM
Mickey Mania is so fucking good
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: bork on December 13, 2018, 07:19:00 AM
Mickey Mania is so fucking good

:drudge :drudge
EXCUSE ME!?  Known REEEEEE foe and nazi DAVID JAFFE was a designer.
 :social :gamergate :rethread
GET THAT NAZI PROPAGANDA OUT OF HERE
 :ltg
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: porkbun on December 13, 2018, 08:44:44 AM
I actually have the Sega CD version of Bram Stoker's Dracula on my SNES Classic.  I'm a fan of cheeseball FMV/digitized games.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Svejk on December 13, 2018, 08:57:47 AM
I actually have the Sega CD version of Bram Stoker's Dracula on my SNES Classic.  I'm a fan of cheeseball FMV/digitized games.
Loved that shit back then.  Totally blown away.  2.5D game before there were 2.5D games.

As for Mickey Mania, that game sucked ass when compared to Castle of Illusion....  It's still the best Mickey game.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Tasty on December 13, 2018, 09:27:00 AM
I liked Magical Quest.

Too short tho.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: benjipwns on December 16, 2018, 02:58:44 AM
https://twitter.com/nvsofts/status/1070761406348189696

Finally, Doom on the Playstation! :lawd
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Trent Dole on December 16, 2018, 03:37:38 AM
lol already on fire sale
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1074214139000631296
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1074219503989415936
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: archie4208 on December 16, 2018, 07:47:53 AM
Nintendo games still keeping their value decades later.  :lawd
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Tasty on December 16, 2018, 08:25:58 AM
I totally bet Sony flooded the market with these things.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Nintex on December 16, 2018, 06:37:52 PM
Has anyone asked Sony why they've emulated 50hz games even though 60hz versions are available?

What was the fucking point. Did they want to make it as horrible as possible or did they torrent the wrong rom pack?
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: bork on December 16, 2018, 07:24:05 PM
Has anyone asked Sony why they've emulated 50hz games even though 60hz versions are available?

What was the fucking point. Did they want to make it as horrible as possible or did they torrent the wrong rom pack?

They wanted to have the same console for all markets that the multi language games can be sold in, IIRC.

...Still fucking stupid.  Note that the Japanese version games all apparently run at 60 fps.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: thisismyusername on December 16, 2018, 08:44:41 PM
Note that the Japanese version games all apparently run at 60 fps.

Because NTSC was US/Japan. PAL was Aus/Europe.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: bork on December 16, 2018, 11:18:21 PM
Note that the Japanese version games all apparently run at 60 fps.

Because NTSC was US/Japan. PAL was Aus/Europe.

Right...except here, 'Murica got the PAL games too.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: paprikastaude on December 17, 2018, 05:54:38 AM
So I now got some things like Jumping Flash 2 on other platforms/services, since this thing was only good to reignite my interest in some lesser known titles. Too bad I hate strategy, because Final Fantasy Tactics is surprisingly cheap to get.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Trent Dole on December 26, 2018, 07:18:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn27YQMGclk
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: bork on December 26, 2018, 08:43:31 AM
Price dropped again to $59.99 (Amazon/Gamestop/Walmart).
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: thisismyusername on December 26, 2018, 09:49:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn27YQMGclk

Cutting the Pi to fit it into this physically hurts me. Also why does all this when you can just get a PS-esque shell for the Pi?
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: bork on December 26, 2018, 09:57:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDDY9ABRot4

He notes that the PS Classic is about the same, internally, as the Amazon Firestick 4K...except that the Firestick is more powerful and costs less.
:dizzy
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: benjipwns on December 26, 2018, 10:32:11 PM
They both use the same PowerVR chip. Late admission that Sega was right?
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 26, 2018, 10:47:53 PM
I wonder if I could combine that 40% off coupon with a price match at Target. You're not supposed to, but you could ask for a price match and then pay with the Target wallet app which is one barcode tied to you Target Redcard.

But it also ties into your cartwheel coupon.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: benjipwns on December 26, 2018, 10:52:11 PM
Has anyone carved out the top and put an actual disc drive in yet? I feel like that's the endgame of this.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: thisismyusername on December 26, 2018, 11:14:49 PM
Has anyone carved out the top and put an actual disc drive in yet? I feel like that's the endgame of this.

It's too small for CD-ROMs, but that would be hilarious.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: CatsCatsCats on December 26, 2018, 11:18:33 PM
Cool shove some GameCube guts in there
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: benjipwns on December 26, 2018, 11:19:49 PM
So we take out the insides, put in a Pi running Dolphin and the GameCube's disc drive...
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: benjipwns on December 26, 2018, 11:24:07 PM
the GameCube's motherboard would almost fit, 7mm too long :lol
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Rufus on December 26, 2018, 11:55:56 PM
the GameCube's motherboard would almost fit, 7mm too long :lol
There are ways:
https://bitbuilt.net/forums/index.php?threads/the-definitive-wii-trimming-guide.198/

https://youtu.be/lbl8ZHAbR4A
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: CatsCatsCats on December 27, 2018, 12:05:35 AM
Yes keep going
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: thisismyusername on December 27, 2018, 01:15:06 AM
put in a Pi running Dolphin

Not sure if joking, but impossible.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: benjipwns on December 27, 2018, 01:24:15 AM
put in a Pi running Dolphin

Not sure if joking, but impossible.
Nothing is impossible! Not if you can imagine it. That's what being a scientist is all about!
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: demi on January 02, 2019, 12:17:13 PM
https://old.reddit.com/r/classicmods/comments/abupug/bleemsync_dev_vlog_3_successfully_enabling_back/

BleemSync (basically PS's "Hakchi") is making great progress. They figured out how to use the back USB port for splitters for USB Storage (instead of the current method of using the player 2 port), and it looks like they are on their way of providing means of adding/removing games from the internal memory as well.

That said, since this is using an already open-source emulator, theres no reason to buy one if you already have a Rasp Pi or even use any other method of emulating PS1 games.

Retroarch does allow you to use your PS3/PS4 controllers plugged into the PSC though, I believe.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: bork on January 22, 2019, 10:36:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r5DPXI_pnc
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: demi on January 22, 2019, 10:55:38 PM
Waste of money. Bleemsync 1.0 is releasing in under a day....
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Himu on January 23, 2019, 04:24:06 AM
Lmao Bleem is back. Not a name I’ve read in a while.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: bork on June 07, 2019, 07:46:30 AM
The price is down to $29.99 now, lol.  Ordered one for shits n' giggles.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: porkbun on June 07, 2019, 08:23:05 AM
I got one for $40 and don't regret it.  It's pretty nice once you "hack" it.  I've been playing a lot of the wrestling games, War Zone in particular.

FYI I found that Sandisk thumb drives work a lot better than other brands for whatever reason.  Also (unless something's changed) there is a memory and/or game limit.  I can use 64GB drives with about 200 games fine, but 128 GB sticks or more than about 200 games won't work, it'll just go to the standard PS1 Classic lineup.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 07, 2019, 09:08:04 AM
The price is down to $29.99 now, lol.  Ordered one for shits n' giggles.

It's alright, even with just the standard lineup and it's inexplicable issues.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Akala on June 07, 2019, 09:11:01 AM
I am kind of tempted at $30.  :thinking

These are pretty cool, I am going to end up with like 4 mini systems I don't play. These are good for family gatherings when I don't want to bother with the real systems though.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: bork on June 07, 2019, 10:11:32 AM
I got one for $40 and don't regret it.  It's pretty nice once you "hack" it.  I've been playing a lot of the wrestling games, War Zone in particular.

Oh yeah, I'm definitely going to be putting my own games on there and will use an 8bitdo for full controller support and Ape Escape.  LOL at that shit default line-up.

I am kind of tempted at $30.  :thinking

These are pretty cool, I am going to end up with like 4 mini systems I don't play. These are good for family gatherings when I don't want to bother with the real systems though.

Yeah.  :lol  Totally don't need this at all.  But hey, mini little PS1-thing will look nice with the other stuff.  I guess.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: bork on July 03, 2019, 10:56:07 AM
$24.99 at Best Buy

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-playstation-classic-console/6301601.p?skuId=6301601

How low will it go?
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Tasty on July 03, 2019, 10:57:15 AM
How low will it go?

Buy 1 get 2 free
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: bluemax on July 03, 2019, 06:49:57 PM
When they start giving them away as the free PS+ game of the month.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: thisismyusername on July 03, 2019, 08:34:03 PM
When they start giving them away as the free PS+ game of the month.

Put Intelligent Qube on US PSN, YOU COWARDS! :bolo
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: MMaRsu on July 23, 2019, 03:03:45 PM
https://youtu.be/_0GiJP7aR6A
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Sho Nuff on July 23, 2019, 07:59:05 PM
$20 at Best Buy! Grabbed a second for a friend. He helped me do the voltage limiter mod and it works a treat with any USB stick I throw at it. My buddy is playing Policenauts on his for the first time.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: demi on July 23, 2019, 08:07:28 PM
With OTG enabled the USB limiter mod should be unnecessary now
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: MMaRsu on July 23, 2019, 08:58:29 PM
voltage limiter? otg? whut?
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: thisismyusername on July 25, 2019, 01:25:05 AM
voltage limiter? otg? whut?

You mod handhelds but you don't know what a voltage limiter is? And don't have a USB OTG? :confused
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: demi on August 21, 2020, 02:41:38 AM
Autobleem, no apps to download or install

Heres a post I made when I did mine up

http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45895.msg2894833#msg2894833
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: porkbun on August 21, 2020, 07:52:22 AM
Seconded on AutoBleem,

Here are the files you need and about 50 PS1 games.  Format a USB drive to FAT32 (SanDisk works best) and unzip these files into a folder called SONY.

http://hkfilm.net/multi/games/SONY.rar

If you want to add games from other systems, RetroArch works really well.  I have games from pretty much every system pre-PS2 on mine.  For games that use an analog stick, I have a PS4 wired Hori gamepad that works really well, but you will have to remap the controls for some games, like N64 FPS's.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: MMaRsu on August 21, 2020, 09:26:16 AM
voltage limiter? otg? whut?

You mod handhelds but you don't know what a voltage limiter is? And don't have a USB OTG? :confused

No need with gba
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: demi on August 21, 2020, 11:02:51 AM
If you want to use other controllers you basically [need] to use Retroarch.

I think Retroarch is a labyrinth of menus and options to navigate so I just use the "default" emulator for PS1 - the drawback is using the analog-less ps1 pads.

I think there's an 8bitdo adapter that is compatible with the "default" emulator but I'm fine with the regular pad.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: bork on August 21, 2020, 11:59:59 AM
I think there's an 8bitdo adapter that is compatible with the "default" emulator but I'm fine with the regular pad.

Yes, and it works for some other systems, too!  :)

https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Bluetooth-Adapter-PlayStation-Raspberry/dp/B07M68VTKP/ref=sr_1_2?crid=ARE9PD1F6OT6&dchild=1&keywords=8bitdo+ps+classic&qid=1598025517&sprefix=8bitdo+ps%2Caps%2C177&sr=8-2

Quote
With the 8BitDo Wireless USB Adapter, you can easily use PS4, Xbox One S, PS3, Wii Mote, Wii U Pro, Joycons and all 8BitDo controllers with PS1 Classic Edition, Switch, PC, Mac, Raspberry Pi and more.

Play your PS1 Classic Edition, wirelessly, with any PS4 controller.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: demi on August 21, 2020, 11:42:18 PM
Here's a pic I took of my Classic running AutoBleem. When you install AutoBleem it actually "overwrites" the default emulator with a more updated one. So far I've had no issues with games I've thrown at it. I know TaiFu has a loading problem but it does actually run if you want like 5 minutes per loading screen lol

https://i.imgur.com/tFTyJTE.jpg

You should be able to scale the picture in Retroarch if that's what you are asking
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 23, 2020, 01:03:13 AM
100% perfect emulation on Pepsiman
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: Cheddahz on September 03, 2020, 08:40:17 AM
Is Autobleem the "go-to" emulator for a PS Classic? I managed to get one for ten bucks last year and have yet to mess with it
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: MMaRsu on September 03, 2020, 08:54:02 AM
If I still use the first hack for ps mini what do I do to upgrade?
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Classic
Post by: demi on September 03, 2020, 10:14:22 AM
Is Autobleem the "go-to" emulator for a PS Classic? I managed to get one for ten bucks last year and have yet to mess with it

Autobleem isn't an "emulator" it's just an easy to use hack. You'll be using either Retroarch's emulator core or the "built-in" emulator from Autobleem/Sony.

IMO Autobleem is the easiest plug and play hack to setup, but you can go other routes like Project Eris and such.

Autobleem runs off your memory stick -> if you unplug the stick, it will go back to the stock setup.