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Title: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 18, 2018, 03:34:33 PM
This is a thread dedicated to old games. Especially if you’re sick of games that are bloated, 100 hours too long, handhold, and are just all around trash.

Old depends on the person. Personally for me it ranges by system. So I’m only going to be talking about games made in the arcade (1979) to ds generation (2011/2012 or so).

Once I’m done snoring my way through DQ11 I’ll be going back to Earthbound which unlike DQ11 Is an actually good Dragon Quest game.

System that interest me and I will be playing:

Arcade
Nes
Snes
Saturn
Dreamcast
Ps1
N64
Ps2
Xbox
Gb
Gba
Ds

Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: naff on October 18, 2018, 04:07:42 PM
MODERN GAMES ARE TRASH

*references a game that's basically a reskin of a game from 1995*
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: naff on October 18, 2018, 04:11:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6ODTQKhaXk
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 18, 2018, 05:24:37 PM
MODERN GAMES ARE TRASH

*references a game that's basically a reskin of a game from 1995*

I mention DQ11 because I obviously think it’s an example of trash modern gaming. And DQ has been gained by modern features. It’s your run of the mill jrpg now.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 18, 2018, 05:28:01 PM
Here’s my game list for the time being:

Finish Earthbound
Super Mario RPG. Never played it.
Ocarina of Time 3d which I’ve never played. Does that have Master Quest on it and how do you access it?

I’ve tried Super Ghouls n Ghosts annnnnd I think the game sucks. It’s slow which unlike the original arcade Ghosts n Goblins, and the game has brutal slow down. Is it even worth the effort?
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on October 18, 2018, 05:47:45 PM
Once I’m done snoring my way through DQ11 I’ll be going back to Earthbound which unlike DQ11 Is an actually good Dragon Quest game.

Oh, are you back to disliking DQ11 again?  I can't keep up.

Just drop it if it sucks and get back to what you want to play.  I don't understand playing through stuff that you think is boring.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: paprikastaude on October 18, 2018, 06:05:58 PM
2017-2019 is the best gaming in like a decade. Yearly AAA fodder is still junk, but the difference is that it's easily ignorable now. Still I'm constantly playing tons of old games too and pseudo-casuals who can't articulate criticism beyond "aged poorly" in old games talk can suck it. :trumps I'm especially catching up on stuff that wasn't out in EU back in the day on SNES and PS1. Got into (unhacked) SNES Mini these last days again, feels good to be reminded of what a GOAT Nintendo console was like. Only Secret of Mana and Mario Kart are kind of crappy, haven't played Earthbound yet (but I'm not a fan of coming-of-age, so I'm not sure when I'll get to it).
Title: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: naff on October 18, 2018, 06:30:35 PM
MODERN GAMES ARE TRASH

*references a game that's basically a reskin of a game from 1995*

I mention DQ11 because I obviously think it’s an example of trash modern gaming. And DQ has been gained by modern features. It’s your run of the mill jrpg now.

rosetintedglasses.gif

there's always been a lot of trash in amongst the gems. why taint a fun retro gaming thread with such a flawed premise?
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 18, 2018, 07:08:44 PM
I don’t really care. I put in a single line about finishing Dragon Quest XI and there’s the line in the op.

I think they’re trash. Deal with it and make your own modern gaming knob slobber game. Hopefully it will hold your hand so it tells you where its penis is.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on October 18, 2018, 07:38:21 PM
That said, agreed with Spieler on fuck the "retro games haven't aged well" crowd. That exact phrase is thrown around without meaning, it and "innovation" mean absolutely jackshit when coming from gamer gits.

Saying that "retro games haven't aged well" is too broad to have any real meaning anyway. 

Some types of games and platforms have games that have aged better than others.  A lot of the sprite-based games have held up a hell of a lot better than the earlier polygon games have for obvious reasons.  I like to go back and play a lot of 8 and 16-bit stuff, but when we get to 32-bit, that's where there's some games that just don't quite run all that well and were way more acceptable back then than they are now. 

But emulation can definitely help here and give the games a cleaner look and/or smoother framerates.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: naff on October 18, 2018, 07:40:47 PM
Whatever. Anyway. I been enjoying these old Interactive Entertainment reviews

Always wanted to play this but never picked it up, would love to see a gog release though I've heard it works fairly well in vanilla dosbox.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS9j5H0dg14

Say what you will of Ultima VIII being the downfall of the series, but this had a really fun sandbox; as a kid me and my friends didn't really progress the story much(tho i tried, and i actually got most of the way through I had no idea and thought I had miles to go still 'til i watched a walkthrough later), just played it like a roguelike seeing who could steal the most the fastest before getting caught and murdered. Played it a little while ago through Origin. The story and atmosphere are still great, and it has a really great interactive environment. I love the animation too (same engine used for the Crusader series). The slowdown didn't affect me much by the time i first played this (1996).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCM9kjvBUAU
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 18, 2018, 07:50:18 PM
I’m going to sell DQ11. Continuing Earthbound tonight. It’s a shame that the jrpg ride is over. I stuck with the genre for twenty one years. DQ11 will be the last jrpg I buy. I’m not buying anymore unless it’s a remake or an old game or something people say doesn’t treat you like a poverty gamer like Fire Emblem. Once upon a time it was my favorite genre but it has lost its way. I’m really sad about it because it’s a genre I’ve poured so much into. I learned Japanese just to play DQ7 3ds. This was a genre I loved and I can’t stand modern jrpgs. At all. At least I can use the Japanese as an investment to play jrpgs I missed out on.

Anyways, I’m currently in the beach city in Earthbound. I really like the game. It takes the Dragon Quest formula to a nice degree. I still haven’t gotten Poo yet which is pretty shocking.

Once I get a new computer I’ll be doing arcade one credit runs and upload to YouTube. :)
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 18, 2018, 07:54:15 PM
Whatever. Anyway. I been enjoying these old Interactive Entertainment reviews

Always wanted to play this but never picked it up, would love to see a gog release though I've heard it works fairly well in vanilla dosbox.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS9j5H0dg14

Say what you will of Ultima VIII being the downfall of the series, but this had a really fun sandbox; as a kid me and my friends didn't really progress the story much(tho i tried, and i actually got most of the way through I had no idea and thought I had miles to go still 'til i watched a walkthrough later), just played it like a roguelike seeing who could steal the most the fastest before getting caught and murdered. Played it a little while ago through Origin. The story and atmosphere are still great, and it has a really great interactive environment. I love the animation too (same engine used for the Crusader series). The slowdown didn't affect me much by the time i first played this (1996).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCM9kjvBUAU

I’ve never played an Ultima besides III I think. I was very confused. I’ve wanted to give Ultima VI or VII a shot.

Are these games long?
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: naff on October 18, 2018, 09:00:02 PM
Ultima VII is well worth a play imo. It's pretty gripping from the outset. You'll know after the first few hours whether it's going to be your jam or not.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on October 18, 2018, 09:51:55 PM
Cindi, I forget, have you played Octopath? Just about to finish it and I really liked it, apart from some repetition, it seemed to have a lot going for it that's missing in modern day RPGs:

-no poorly-explained, over complicated "systems", apart from a straightforward job system and a battle system where you can store up attacks to let loose all at once
-has some basic fetch-questy sidequests but they too don't bog down the game, nor will you miss out on much for not doing them
-has some really challenging main bosses which really require you to exploit weaknesses and shift your strategies mid-battle. Definitely one of the most difficult RPGs I've played in a long while.
-has some optional dungeons and a pretty open storyline
-great music and pixel art
-it's still long af, but fast paced and you actually feel like you're getting stuff done in a short play session (unlike a modern RPG where it feels like it takes 2 hours just to explore a town and receive the next quest and trigger a million cinema scenes padded with unnecessary filler text).

Anyways back to classic gaming... I picked up Ninja-kun and Ninja Jajamaru-kun from the local game shop. Surprised he had Famicom games in there (there was also some other game in the pile which was some weird HK pirate of Batman NES, with a changed stage 1 song and a terrible framerate). Will have to play and report back, I know the Ninja-kun series was quite popular back in the day.

And also in retro news, the SNES port of Tenshi no Uta got a fan translation. I own the PCE CD game, not sure how much it differs from the SNES version aside from not looking nearly as good.
http://www.romhacking.net/translations/822/ (http://www.romhacking.net/translations/822/)
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 18, 2018, 10:00:28 PM
Don’t have a Switch. No Octopath. I’m out of gas, tiesto. You know how much I love DQ. For me to not like DQ? I’m beat.

Tell me about Tenshi no Uta.

An HK rip off of Batman nes? I’m so sorry. I love Batman nes so much. One problem I’ve had with buying retro games is getting legit copies and not bootleg repros.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: CatsCatsCats on October 19, 2018, 09:19:44 AM
Super Mario RPG is super great through my nostalgia glasses, will be interest to read how it goes for someone who never played it
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: HardcoreRetro on October 19, 2018, 09:57:35 AM
How can you be done with modern games when RDR 2 is just around the corner. :(

What about the shrinking horseballs?
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on October 19, 2018, 10:22:44 AM
Thoughts like this are probably why the retro market has been jumping up on older platforms.

And I appreciate you for that, I need something to sell off for rent money eventually
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on October 19, 2018, 11:20:53 AM
I'm all about this thread. But being like DQXI sucks! Let's talk about retro games! Is a bit :confused

I mean XI is like a reskinning of decades old games.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: mormapope on October 19, 2018, 11:36:30 AM
I'm all about this thread. But being like DQXI sucks! Let's talk about retro games! Is a bit :confused

I mean XI is like a reskinning of decades old games.

The title of this thread is pretty insulting to ANY person that's working on games, or anyone that follows this hobby seriously.

Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: archie4208 on October 19, 2018, 11:58:15 AM
Ironically, I've been replaying FF6 and I think it doesn't hold up nearly as much as my nostalgia told me it would.  I think contemporary JRPGs like Persona 5 and DQ11 are just plain better in terms of both mechanics and writing/characterization. 
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on October 19, 2018, 12:14:19 PM
No, its definitely a FF6 thing. That game has like a bajllion characters to babysit versus DQ11 and P5's simple cast.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 19, 2018, 01:52:04 PM
Ironically, I've been replaying FF6 and I think it doesn't hold up nearly as much as my nostalgia told me it would.  I think contemporary JRPGs like Persona 5 and DQ11 are just plain better in terms of both mechanics and writing/characterization.

I played FFVI again this year and loved it more than ever. There are flaws but eh. No game is perfect besides RE4. Even Mario Galaxy has waggle in it. Modern jrpgs sacrifice too much by focusing on story. They all want to tell their story and they want you to like it and this makes them drag hard. They have an insane amount of handholding and poor pacing. I’m surprised you haven’t noticed it or maybe it doesn’t bother you. Imo ps2 was the climax for the genre.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 19, 2018, 01:53:17 PM
I'm all about this thread. But being like DQXI sucks! Let's talk about retro games! Is a bit :confused

I mean XI is like a reskinning of decades old games.

The title of this thread is pretty insulting to ANY person that's working on games, or anyone that follows this hobby seriously.

:idont

Their problem.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 19, 2018, 01:57:04 PM
https://youtu.be/7BqxKVv3DkY

Posted in the fighting game thread but this is my game! :bow
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: mormapope on October 19, 2018, 04:11:39 PM
I'm all about this thread. But being like DQXI sucks! Let's talk about retro games! Is a bit :confused

I mean XI is like a reskinning of decades old games.

The title of this thread is pretty insulting to ANY person that's working on games, or anyone that follows this hobby seriously.

:idont

Their problem.

Not really, it's more like "why would I ever consider someone's opinion on game design when they're willingly and blatantly ignorant?"

The dump you tried to make was so bad it slipped out of toilet water range and slipped down in front of the seat. I don't even know what a "modern game" is, what that means.  :lol





Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: CatsCatsCats on October 19, 2018, 05:49:47 PM
Y you guys so caught up on that throwaway part of the op? Let her work, we’re enjoying old games in this thread
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 19, 2018, 06:36:25 PM
Really liking this island.

(http://walkthrough.starmen.net/earthbound/image/maps/summers.png)

I have no idea how this game will top Moonside.

Y you guys so caught up on that throwaway part of the op? Let her work, we’re enjoying old games in this thread

Triggered modern game lovers.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 19, 2018, 10:48:44 PM
Wew. The more time I put into Super Ghouls n Ghosts the more I like it. Game is brutal. Can get to halfway through the  second level on one continue now. I’ll beat it. :obama
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 19, 2018, 11:24:30 PM
Lmao

(https://i.imgur.com/PVsQAY5.jpg)
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 19, 2018, 11:50:56 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/QyXWc6G.jpg)

:dead
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 20, 2018, 02:26:53 AM
The fanbase is rabid but I get why they are and don’t judge them for being passionate towards it.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 20, 2018, 02:47:07 AM
Earthbound has flaws. Like the mountain dungeon or the mole dungeon. The dungeon design isn’t that good for instance and the encounters can be ridiculous at times. That said it’s still a good game and it’s an example of being more than the sum of its parts. I don’t think many Earthbound fans think the game is perfect but it’s such a ride that you ignore whatever issues it has. Whether or not you love it or not seems like it’s dependent on how you can accept those flaws.

It’s also comparatively light on story compared to its peers like chrono trigger, FFVI, Phantasy Star IV, or the Romancing Saga games. It’s not that it doesn’t have a story so much as the way the story is told feels NES-ish. It’s very minimal. You don’t really talk to your party members like in other RPGs for instance. There’s not much interaction between characters. Even FFIV, which was made like 4 years before Earthbound has more story and character interaction. Which isn’t a bad thing. It just has a different focus than other jRPGs of its era but can definitely be off putting and feel like it’s “aged” (although it feels like a deliberate ode to DQI-III). Then you’ve got the way you progress which often means talking to a random npc. It’s very NES-esque.

So I don’t blame you for not finding it amazing or even not exactly knowing what it is that makes you not enjoy it as much as you could but I completely understand even though I love the game.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 20, 2018, 02:53:16 AM
From earlier.

(https://i.imgur.com/Eoyim07.jpg)

:dead
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on October 20, 2018, 03:21:40 AM
Relevant sister thread: http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=42133.0

*wraps self in nostalgia blanket*

I like a lot of modern games tho

Also a lot of older games were trash too

I don't have a point 🤷🏻‍♂️
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 20, 2018, 03:57:10 AM
I’m definitely not saying there weren’t clunkers back in the day.

But like, for my tastes, I just don’t get much enjoyment from games these days that aren’t made by Nintendo or a fighting game. It has to do with how the developer treats the player. I can’t stand being hand held, told what to do, or have the game drag out because it’s an overly long tutorial. I like to make my own decisions, I like freedom, and wracking my brain on how to overcome an immediate challenge. A lot of games these days it feels like they want to guide you to the destination but don’t emphasize what I love the most: the journey.

Like tonight I played some Super Ghouls n Ghosts. I had a problem getting into it at first being used to Ghosts and Goblins arcade/Genesis. But I made it my goal to beat the first level without dying. I find that so refreshing and it’s how I enjoy my games. There’s certainly games being made today where the player is treated with respect. Mega man 11 just came out for instance. But those are the far, far exception.

Going back to Earthbound after playing hours of DQ11 felt so good. DQ used to have respect for the player and kept its hand holding to a minimum despite being the jrpg equivalent of McDonalds. You know what you’re going to get, and that’s a good thing. But now we’ve got ten hour tutorials, icons telling you who to talk to so you don’t get lost, the game barricading progress so you do it the way it wants you to, and such a hard focus on story it detracts from the gameplay. Even DQ has lost its way. That’s how you know the meat in the stove is well and cooked.

I’ve come to accept that most games are not made for people like me anymore. Either they are too cinematic, or think you’re a moron like Bethesda. This video it’s pretty much applicable to most games now.

https://youtu.be/2kRRYgf54oM

Scratch that. Modern game design is insulting.

Video games have gone from a hobby about problem solving and overcoming obstacles to getting your dick wet and rewarded just for having bought the game.

Speaking of Super Ghouls n Ghosts, good play is really, REALLY impressive.

 https://youtu.be/KBRkqsX-YR8
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 20, 2018, 09:54:48 AM
Play a bunch of 90s PC RPGs, sis.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: paprikastaude on October 20, 2018, 10:07:35 AM
 :confused Ocarina of the Time is the origin for modern handholding/tutorials and current Nintendo games have developed some of the most perverse. To the point where I'm shocked that Miyamoto didn't order a complete restructuring of Zelda Switch, because up until recently they've implanted literal video walkthroughs into Zelda worlds. Mario Kart's default control scheme now steers automatically. Their new platformers are all strikingly easy, excluding the moderately challenging Donkey Kong, and there's alarm screens that ask you to skip/cheat through a level whenever you manage to do the impossible and fail a couple of times.

Also the reason why people hype up the last few years is because that the Ubisoft/Bethesda/Sony narrative/etc. pool isn't the end-all anymore. Many hardcore games like Bloodborne, Cuphead, Crash Bandicoot, Nioh and even Bethesda's Doom are now successful again. Though if your positive examples are OoT/Nintendo games, I don't see how things like Astrobot, Sonic Mania or Nier Automata are any worse.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 20, 2018, 10:20:37 AM
I won’t deny Zelda games became handhold-y especially TP. I didn’t play Skyward Sword because it looked like crap from the outset. However Link Between Worlds and what I’ve played of Breath of the Wild are free and open. DKC Tropical Freeze is really good from what I’ve played, as are games like NSMBU. So to me, Nintendo is an outlier in a sea of shit.

But this statement is something I disagree with entirely.

Quote
Ocarina of the Time is the origin for modern handholding/tutorials

There’s nothing in OoT that handholds like a modern game. OoT has tips that are like a single text box but it lets you figure it out yourself. Navi is optional so to the comparison doesn’t fly. Your connection is even more illogical when you consider that OoT’s sequel is something as open and as non-handhold-y as possible: Majora’s Mask.

Those games you listed are exceptions.  Games are in infinite regress.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 20, 2018, 10:25:38 AM
Play a bunch of 90s PC RPGs, sis.

Thanks. Super Mario RPG after Earthbound.

I really want to finish paper Mario. It’s almost unplayable emulated and has lots of glitches. I’m considering getting an N64 and physical copy of Paper Mario.

What’s the best way to store N64 carts? Also what’s the best possible Nintendo 64 set up on modern displays? CRT seems best. I might have a CRT at the rents house.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: mormapope on October 20, 2018, 10:26:05 AM
:confused Ocarina of the Time is the origin for modern handholding/tutorials and current Nintendo games have developed some of the most perverse. To the point where I'm shocked that Miyamoto didn't order a complete restructuring of Zelda Switch, because up until recently they've implanted literal video walkthroughs into Zelda worlds. Mario Kart's default control scheme now steers automatically. Their new platformers are all strikingly easy, excluding the moderately challenging Donkey Kong, and there's alarm screens that ask you to skip/cheat through a level whenever you manage to do the impossible and fail a couple of times.

Also the reason why people hype up the last few years is because that the Ubisoft/Bethesda/Sony narrative/etc. pool isn't the end-all anymore. Many hardcore games like Bloodborne, Cuphead, Crash Bandicoot, Nioh and even Bethesda's Doom are now successful again. Though if your positive examples are OoT/Nintendo games, I don't see how things like Astrobot, Sonic Mania or Nier Automata are any worse.

Your post will probably be ignored because it doesn't fit the narrative that "modern" games are for dumb fuck slobs.

Fortnite and Minecraft are apparently dumbed down, hand holdy, narrative based games. R6 Siege, quite possibly one of the most challenging and frustrating multiplayer games to get into, can't even compare to a JRPG SNES game when it comes to depth!

I'm actually playing Ninja Gaiden Black and enjoying it a lot, and Im gonna try to beat MGS2 on european Extreme difficulty. But what doI know, Im a modern gamer (™).

Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 20, 2018, 10:30:12 AM
I have no interest in fortnite, R6, or Minecraft. The genres that I like have been chewed up and spat out. I’m sorry my opinion offends you.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: mormapope on October 20, 2018, 10:32:52 AM
Those games you listed are exceptions.  Games are in infinite regress.

 :dead

Sounds like global warming, pretty soon all discs are gonna melt and destroy our consoles.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 20, 2018, 11:17:03 AM
I’ve decided to invest in a crt. I’ve been thinking of it for a while because the lag in an hd set up isn’t good for old fighting games. We bring crts to local fighting game meet ups and I’ve wanted to bring Bushido Blade to a local for a while.

The benefits seem pretty obvious. So with me more dedicated to playing older games it makes sense to just finally bite the bullet rather than try hooking this stuff up to an hd set up. I dropped by the rents and...no crt from what I can find. :(

So I’m looking for a new one. What’s a good size? To my memory, tv size is different with crts compared to lcds. Like, a 20 inch lcd looks small as hell but a 20 inch crt feels beefy. I had a 10 inch in freshmen year and that was too small so I’m thinking 13-19 inches would be better? I don’t want it to take up much space because it won’t be the primary tv of course.

My life in gaming seems to have a good video on it? Posting so I can watch it later.

https://youtu.be/RAi8AVj9GV8

Then again, small crt size isn’t much a big deal. I’ve played on Sony PVM’s at tournaments and they’re absolutely fine so :idont
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Nintex on October 20, 2018, 12:15:36 PM
With CRT's you're better off looking at yard sales, pawnshops and/or in attics and basements.
Also they're massive and heavy and outside of a select few Sony models the last batch sucked pretty bad.

Still I find it funny to see indie devs make all those 'pixel perfect' graphics as if that was the 8-bit / 16-bit era.
You could get close with an RGB scart setup. But most RF/antenna setups would make everything a blurry mess.

Also 20" is very small. I'd go with 24" that always seemed the sweet spot for CRT.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: HardcoreRetro on October 20, 2018, 12:21:33 PM
Thought the trinitrons were the go to retro tvs. I got like 7 old crt tvs cause people throw them away and I just ask if I can take em.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: CatsCatsCats on October 20, 2018, 01:11:27 PM
Real light gun games on a CRT :rejoice
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 20, 2018, 02:48:37 PM
I’m not interested in a big ass crt that’ll break my back lol. I will be transporting it to fighting game events.

At tournaments we usually go with Sony  PVMs and Trinitons or other crt set ups. Usually non Sony  pvms and bvms.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on October 20, 2018, 03:02:54 PM
Something else to consider:

http://www.retrotink.com/

Been thinking about getting one of these so I can ditch the little CRT I have.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on October 20, 2018, 03:20:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbBEAJfaJfo

Decent game but a few too many cheap hits in some of the levels, and slightly unresponsive controls. For some reason this really started to increase in price over the past few years.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 20, 2018, 03:42:21 PM
Something else to consider:

http://www.retrotink.com/

Been thinking about getting one of these so I can ditch the little CRT I have.

Nah. Only crt’s are tournament legal
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on October 20, 2018, 03:44:38 PM
Cindi, it's on the pricey side but have you looked into upscaler technology, ie OSSC, Framemeister, etc? I'm putting together a dream retro rig but waiting for a scart switcher I preordered to finish manufacturing and ship to me.

Anyways, another decent modern day game is Alliance Alive, it's like a slightly easier, more goofy take on SaGa with a Bravely Default art style.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: thisismyusername on October 20, 2018, 04:53:47 PM
I have no interest in fortnite, R6, or Minecraft.

That's fine, but that's kinda ignoring their point: There's still good games (though I wouldn't put Fortnite in that category, since it has ass-tastic shooting mechanics) out there in the current year from developers that may/may not be indie.

I'd say Dark Souls 1 (2, and 3 are alright but not needed), Battlefield: Bad Company 2, Shadowrun Returns or Underrail, Hotline Miami, Xcom, for starters are decent if not great (though you'll have some NMA'd like folks on the X-com vs Xcom debate) modern games.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Trent Dole on October 20, 2018, 06:26:44 PM
'NEW THINGS ARE BAD!
OLD THINGS ARE GOOD!
I'M BASIC AS FUCK!'
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 20, 2018, 06:44:14 PM
Cindi, it's on the pricey side but have you looked into upscaler technology, ie OSSC, Framemeister, etc? I'm putting together a dream retro rig but waiting for a scart switcher I preordered to finish manufacturing and ship to me.

Anyways, another decent modern day game is Alliance Alive, it's like a slightly easier, more goofy take on SaGa with a Bravely Default art style.

Still not an option for competitive games. Crt is the only option. I’m talking with fgc people on what good options are.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on October 21, 2018, 10:00:49 PM
Cindi, you NEED to play Alliance Alive for 3DS. Just got up to a part where the game opens up a ton and it gets VERY Suikoden-ish. In fact, the director was also the director of Suikoden (you can see his love of ducks in this game too). Basically, Suikoden meets SaGa...
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 21, 2018, 10:03:54 PM
Murayama wrote, didn’t direct

Does it hand hold, treat you like a child, make it like babby’s first jrpg, have a twenty hour tutorial, an obscene focus on story to the point of detracting from the gameplay? Even story based jrpgs back in the day like suikoden has a gameplay first principle. Minimal handholding, risk (characters can die permanently), minimal cutscenes despite story being a big focus, lots of side quests, and hidden shit.

If it’s not that I have no interest.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 21, 2018, 10:12:57 PM
Made it to the desert town in Earthbound. Feels like this is when the game really begins. Nice stuff. The kraken was nuts. One shot everyone but Ness one turn.

Can now get to level three on one continue in Super Ghouls n Ghosts. I think I’ll be able to one credit it...eventually. I’ve never seen an arcade machine of Super Ghouls n Ghosts so I can’t put it to the real test with real money although I want to.

Beat F-Zero on beginner. Haven’t played it since I was a kid. Hated it as a kid but I really liked it this time.

Getting close to having the Mega Man X itch which I haven’t touched on snes Classic. Will do it with no upgrades like usual to memorialize Hitokage.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 21, 2018, 11:41:00 PM
Huh.

Looks good. Color me surprised. In a way I do owe a lot to Murayama but I don’t have much loyalty these days so that wasn’t much of an interest to me. But watching this and see pixel express similar views about modern jrpgs and liking alliancenalive really helped. I’ll get it and add to the 3ds list.

https://youtu.be/_NPZe_TPlKM
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on October 21, 2018, 11:41:37 PM
Murayama wrote, didn’t direct

Does it hand hold, treat you like a child, make it like babby’s first jrpg, have a twenty hour tutorial, an obscene focus on story to the point of detracting from the gameplay? Even story based jrpgs back in the day like suikoden has a gameplay first principle. Minimal handholding, risk (characters can die permanently), minimal cutscenes despite story being a big focus, lots of side quests, and hidden shit.

If it’s not that I have no interest.

Hand hold? It's pretty linear at first, then after a crucial part in the game it opens up a LOT (almost to the point of being detrimental, only giving you some vague clues what to do)
No 20 hour tutorial, it's pretty quick to get into and progress. Apparently the game itself is 30-40 hours depending on the number of sidequests you do
There's a few cutscenes but the majority of them are over pretty quickly, story isn't anything too terribly interesting tbh but it gets the job done, there's a bit of charm in the dialogue, and it's not really full of loli uguu
A ton of sidequests and hidden shit:

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Basically, you play as several different parties who all meet up at one big fortress raid. After that, you unlock the power of the Ark, a giant ship. And then you can go around recruiting various NPCs to join these different guilds, like a tactics guild (that allows you to gain position based bonuses in battle), a smithing guild, a spellcasting guild, a library guild (that offers research on enemies and helps you unlock a really powerful spell), at this point it gets VERY Suikoden esque
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Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 21, 2018, 11:49:17 PM
Hand holding isn’t necessarily linearity. It’s a totally separate category. Like, FFIV is linear af right? But it doesn’t have constant commentary on how to play it right? Or telling you what to do. Or block off progress because it wants you to do things in its special order. Or restrict you at all really. You know how in Okami Issun will flat out reveal puzzle solutions and his input isn’t exactly optional? That’s handholding.

Sounds good. Sounds like the jrpg of old, which was a genre about choice and decision making rather than be spoon fed the developers story because they wish they were making VN’s instead.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: naff on October 22, 2018, 10:38:38 PM
'NEW THINGS ARE BAD!
OLD THINGS ARE GOOD!
I'M BASIC AS FUCK!'

I'm only 12 but I LOVE the old stuff like Crazy Town and SMASH MOUTH. New music is TRASH.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on October 25, 2018, 01:09:28 PM
Gideon Zhi just released a translation for SMT If so you can play it on your retro platform

http://www.romhacking.net/translations/3951/
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rufus on October 25, 2018, 01:28:47 PM
Gideon Zhi just released a translation for SMT If so you can play it on your retro platform

http://www.romhacking.net/translations/3951/
Quote
It´s been a long road, but today AGTP releases a complete translation for Shin Megami Tensei if... on the Super Nintendo/Super Famicom. For me personally this journey has encompassed a second undergraduate degree, a cross-country move, a complete career change, multiple periods of both employment and unemployment, the licensure of one of our translation patches, and the beginnings of a family, in addition to having to deal with several project-related IRC and Discord raids, hate speech, and generalized harassment from the SMT community at large. It´s done, and I *will* maintain the patch should anyone find any bugs or typos. But that´s it.

I do this for the enjoyment of the process, to challenge myself to produce work of ever-higher caliber. if... hits a high enough bar at this point that I´m satisfied releasing it. I hope everyone who´s been clamoring for the patch gets some enjoyment out of it; I´ll let the game speak for itself.

With Majin Tensei 2 being mostly done elsewhere, don´t expect any further Megami Tensei work out of AGTP. No updated patch for SMT1, no back-porting of if...´s work into SMT2, no Majin Tensei 1. I´m done. To those who were looking forward to the aforementioned, I truly apologize. Maybe focus on cleaning up your community.
Whew. Anyone know more?
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on October 25, 2018, 01:45:26 PM
Majin Tensei 2 is being worked on by DDS & Tom, and is very close to release.

The TLDR with that comment is that Gideon Zhi felt constantly harrased and bitched at by the SMT community on why he hasnt finished the translation. He went on a twitter tirade over it.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 27, 2018, 07:04:11 PM
Damn. F-zero is fantastic. Little me was insane to not like this. Super Mario Kart is fantastic too.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on October 28, 2018, 10:58:49 AM
I always get a weird feeling when I look back on the original Mario Kart and how much fun I had with it, considering how simple and primitive it was compared to newer entries. But that just shows how solid the fundamentals were, and how correct the team was in prioritizing two-player multiplayer (splitscreen at all times) at the expense of a better single-player experience in this instance. My cousins and I spent hours in Balloon Battle (mostly because turning in that game during races is still somewhat challenging to me, lol), and probably because of that Battle Mode is still the primary way I play the series. Great little game. It also had the best music in the series until Mario Kart 8.

(https://i.imgur.com/jrVXSLr.gif)
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2018, 11:23:36 AM
I’ve tried getting into Mario kart and it’s never stuck but I’ve never played it multiplayer besides double dash. I have mario kart 3ds and it’s just :larry I think Super is much better from what I’ve played. Mario kart seems one of those series that’s pointless unless you play it multiplayer so I’ve always avoided these games and I wasn’t friends with too many Nintendo fans besides one person that had Mario kart.

I do have fond memories playing Mario kart with one childhood friend. We went to a baseball game and then played Super Mario kart and had a sleep over.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on October 28, 2018, 12:38:43 PM
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I’ve never played it multiplayer besides double dash.

:crazy

I haven't spent much time with MK7 but it always seemed like a really polished beta for MK8.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2018, 01:09:04 PM
I’ve always want to get into Mario kart which is why I want to play Mario Kart 8 online.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on October 28, 2018, 01:12:46 PM
I’ve always want to get into Mario kart which is why I want to play Mario Kart 8 online.

Deluxe is so fricking good. :rejoice

Best MK :rejoice

Played it for over 150 hours already :rejoice

Only way it'd be better is if it had more options in multiplayer, but the engine and amount of content is crazy stellar.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2018, 01:15:44 PM
Can you do battle mode online
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on October 28, 2018, 01:25:10 PM
Can you do battle mode online

Yup! You have a separate online score for it (in addition to a racing score) when you play randos online.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I've gone from 1000 points to 6200. :lawd
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Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2018, 01:26:42 PM
I watched videos of battle mode. It looks amazing. Why do people hate it? I remember it being controversial.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on October 28, 2018, 01:35:23 PM
I watched videos of battle mode. It looks amazing. Why do people hate it? I remember it being controversial.

Some people think just because you're in a vehicle you have to use it to race.

Dunno if the same people also hated Twisted Metal.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2018, 01:42:04 PM
I need to play battle mode
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on October 28, 2018, 02:06:59 PM
I watched videos of battle mode. It looks amazing. Why do people hate it? I remember it being controversial.

People hate battle mode?  ???  News to me.  MK8's battle mode did get shit on because it didn't have proper stages, but MK8 Deluxe fixed that and added stages just for this mode.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on October 28, 2018, 03:28:41 PM
I watched videos of battle mode. It looks amazing. Why do people hate it? I remember it being controversial.

People hate battle mode?  ???  News to me.  MK8's battle mode did get shit on because it didn't have proper stages, but MK8 Deluxe fixed that and added stages just for this mode.

It also introduced one of the most fun and fresh-feeling battle modes in Renegade Roundup.

Cops and robbers combined with Mario Kart really shouldn't work as well as it does.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/sRKiZ3MGXJeuQUmm04/giphy.gif)

:gladbron
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2018, 04:56:12 PM
This looks too fun
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on October 28, 2018, 06:19:38 PM
Still waiting for Mario Kart to get a singleplayer mode like Diddy Kong Racing. Battle Mode zzzz
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: CatsCatsCats on October 28, 2018, 10:54:54 PM
Diddy Kong racing was tight single player true
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 31, 2018, 03:31:39 AM
Getting close to end of Earthbound I think. Still great.

Got my computer back running and all my data was backed up. So I still have almost every cartridge game ever made on my hd. I decided to play Wave Race 64 tonight.

It may be weird but besides Zelda it was always my favorite Nintendo 64 game. For 1996 I thought it was the most impressive console game - in a technical sense - I had ever seen. Others were blown away by Mario 64 but what stole my heart was Wave Race. I hadn’t seen anything as impressive on the psx or Saturn or anything in arcades either. At the time a lot of racing games had primitive 3d graphics like Daytona. They looked good, but the visual spectacle of Wave Race 64 was beyond any of that for me. The water, the physics, the mists of Dake Lake, the stunts, the music, the entire aesthetic. It was such a gem at the time and this may be weird to say, but the primary reason I was jealous of Nintendo 64 owners.

And the gameplay is still so good to me. Nintendo 64 has other great racers but none really enchant me like Wave Race 64. The mix of avoiding obstacles and hitting the points of the buoys so you don’t lose power is simple but it WORKS. And it’s still the Nintendo 64 game I go to for casual play to this day.

I’d love a new Wave Race for Switch.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on October 31, 2018, 07:44:04 AM
Others were blown away by Mario 64 but what stole my heart was Wave Race. I hadn’t seen anything as impressive on the psx or Saturn or anything in arcades either. At the time a lot of racing games had primitive 3d graphics like Daytona. They looked good, but the visual spectacle of Wave Race 64 was beyond any of that for me. The water, the physics, the mists of Dake Lake, the stunts, the music, the entire aesthetic. It was such a gem at the time and this may be weird to say, but the primary reason I was jealous of Nintendo 64 owners.

In 1996?  There were games like Super GT in arcades running on Model 3 hardware that shat all over everything else.  Daytona was more than three years old by this point.  But yeah, I think Wave Race at the time was more-impressive looking than what was on the home consoles because of dat water.  Was still playing Rage Racer instead though.

Before a new Waverace I'd rather have a new F-Zero first. 
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 31, 2018, 01:03:30 PM
I guess I didn’t see the model 3 racers at the time. By that time arcades we’re dead in my area and the primary games we got were Metal Slug, HOTD, Area 51;etc. even my Tilt didn’t have much in the way of racers.

Doesn’t help that from 1995-1996 I didn’t really play video games (busy year) so..lol
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on October 31, 2018, 03:49:27 PM
Local mall arcade had this right in the entrance area and it got a lot of attention.  Made everything else look like complete shit at the time although most people didn't play it because one play was $1!
(https://www.arcade-museum.com/images/118/1181242184446.jpg)
If you didn't see this back then, it looked like it was two generations ahead of all the other games released and especially made the Saturn's 3D look that much worse.   :lol  Fighter's Megamix made up for not getting a port of it at least, but I remember thinking at the time how after the home consoles had finally caught up to arcades with the PS1 and Saturn...we were right back to being way behind again.

That same arcade had this kind of Super GT setup too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnGEfc3P2mQ
:drool
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on October 31, 2018, 03:56:51 PM
Oh snap, you can run it emulated at 16:9 now. 
:leon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdjXHrsViWg

Playing as a cat
:dead
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 31, 2018, 04:50:27 PM
I never saw VF3 or any of those games ever in an arcade.

But then I became a console brat by then and got tired of going to arcades only for them to close. Plus my local skating place where I went every Friday didn’t have any of these games.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on November 03, 2018, 09:33:09 PM
Lesser beings: "Mario Kart doesn't take strategy or skill"

Me, a scholar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQgoIEAOP4M
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on November 06, 2018, 01:51:21 PM
Good shit. Can you play Mario 64 online with me? :)

Checklist:

- Almost done with Earthbound

(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/K8xRwX5Yxzqx7ycgkudAr8ehHQQ=/0x0:592x577/1200x800/filters:focal(246x54:340x148)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/56916101/Screen_Shot_2017_09_29_at_1.45.25_PM.0.png)

- Made a new game of Mario 64. Have 51 stars so almost done. Every level on the third and fourth floor is a classic to me. Game is fantastic and one of those games I've given multiple chances over the years and it's grown so much on me. The worst part of the game is easily the camera. It could use a full remake on Switch.

(https://cdn3-www.gamerevolution.com/assets/uploads/2017/12/Super-Mario-64-Screenshot.jpg)

- decided to give OoT Master Quest a shot since it's in my romset. I have never played Master Quest and I decided to get all smug as a Zelda vet and just try the Deku Tree dungeon and damn, I died two (three?) times surprisingly. It was so different. Like, the moat puzzle. wtf! You usually just dive under the water to hit the button. But here...there's no button! And you've got to get a get a torch over to the side and light another torch. :o But there's a spike in the middle of the moat. I was completely baffled. After pacing my room for a few minutes I decided that the puzzle should be taken as is and I only needed a way to gun UNDER the spike. So one time I just tried using the shield to shrink Link into a crouching position to miss the spike and holy fuck it worked. I was orgasming from the thought of solving that great, great puzzle in such a creative manner that I almost let the torch fire blow out :lol I immediately decided once I completely the dungeon that I NEEDED to play Master Quest immediately after beating Earthbound. NEED. Zelda OoT 3d was next on my play list anyways but that game forces you to unlock the game by beating it. NO. I NEED MASTER QUEST. I might scout the area for beaten OoT 3d carts to find a save file so I can get playing MQ that way. I haven't played OoT in nearly ten years. It is one of my all time favorite games. I know it like the back of my hand, and I've played it a billion times. But this game never ceases to give me chills. The intro? The charm of Navi flying around? That iconic harp when you boot it up. Holy fuck, I am PUMPED to play OoT 3d and MQ.

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/5b7a6462b8f23184788a111017d160f5/tumblr_oixvzjUpcT1sgurego1_500.gif)

- Fire Emblem GBA after Master Quest, then Fire Emblem Awakening classic mode.

(https://server.emulator.games/images/gameboy-advance/fire-emblem-rekka-no-ken-temp.jpg)

If you can't tell, I've gone full Ntard.

I've also played Samurai Shodown V Special on the side of my usual Super Turbo. Game is fantastic. I bought it a year ago on PS4 but could never find opponents. Playing it on Fightcade is incredible. It's pure fundamentals, no bullshit.

(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/WellgroomedHideousCero-size_restricted.gif)

Going full on retro has made me enjoy games so much more.  :-[
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on November 09, 2018, 12:24:09 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5YHjHzHJKkU
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on November 09, 2018, 12:55:18 PM
If youre interested in speedruns just hit up speedrun.com and masturbate to all your retro games DONE FAST
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: MMaRsu on November 09, 2018, 01:28:09 PM
I mean most games aint better than Streets of Rage that's for sure
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on November 11, 2018, 06:30:13 PM
https://youtu.be/WpfA-hj1l8Q
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 12, 2018, 02:37:01 PM
I just finished reading this

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/5164y2Zd9YL._SX382_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)

JFC what a crazy series this is. It's basically 500 pages of unedited interviews with SUPER obscure dudes from the Japanese game industry during the 80s (even ran into some of my old bosses in there). Super fascinating but I feel like I'm like one of 10 people who this book is for. After reading it I'm going back and playing these nutso MSX2/PC98 games that get referenced in bulk.

Also there's an interview with a Diehard Gamefan Magazine artist and there is some REAL CRAZY SHIT about sharing hookers and playing Yoshi's Island.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on November 12, 2018, 02:39:42 PM
Also there's an interview with a Diehard Gamefan Magazine artist and there is some REAL CRAZY SHIT about sharing hookers and playing Yoshi's Island.

Is that with or without some acid-laced coffee?
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on November 12, 2018, 03:00:05 PM
I just finished reading this

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/5164y2Zd9YL._SX382_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)

JFC what a crazy series this is. It's basically 500 pages of unedited interviews with SUPER obscure dudes from the Japanese game industry during the 80s (even ran into some of my old bosses in there). Super fascinating but I feel like I'm like one of 10 people who this book is for. After reading it I'm going back and playing these nutso MSX2/PC98 games that get referenced in bulk.

Also there's an interview with a Diehard Gamefan Magazine artist and there is some REAL CRAZY SHIT about sharing hookers and playing Yoshi's Island.

I own the whole series and am making it through part 3 now... some really awesome stuff in there, including things I feel that I may be one of the few people who would be interested in. Like the answer to why Biometal got a 2 Unlimited soundtrack in the west.

I have access to an X68000, an FM Towns Marty, and am waiting on an MSX I bought in Japan that I shipped back to me.. so getting to learn about play some of the more obscure PC games thanks to this series is a treat.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on November 12, 2018, 04:18:23 PM
How were volumes 1 and 2
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Positive Touch on November 13, 2018, 01:47:27 PM
the problem with those books is that the author is a fucking nutjob and you're trying to read an old anecdote from a dev and here he goes trying to show off his knowledge about a game they fucking made or going into a stupid rant about how women having periods is a choice or some bullshit. great idea for a series and there's lots of great info in there but my god it can be hard to read sometimes.

there's also a post up somewhere from the woman who ran the translation service he used talking about what a fucking jackoff he was the whole time.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on November 13, 2018, 02:29:57 PM
I don't recall the women having periods be a choice, my main issue is how obsessed he seems to be with office layouts! If you could find the post from the translator I'd love to read that.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 13, 2018, 02:50:51 PM
the problem with those books is that the author is a fucking nutjob and you're trying to read an old anecdote from a dev and here he goes trying to show off his knowledge about a game they fucking made or going into a stupid rant about how women having periods is a choice or some bullshit. great idea for a series and there's lots of great info in there but my god it can be hard to read sometimes.

there's also a post up somewhere from the woman who ran the translation service he used talking about what a fucking jackoff he was the whole time.

OH yeah. I tried watching some of the video content but it was pretty tough to get through. And the Kickstarter drama is indeed a hot mess (I didn't realize it was THIS bad):
https://cirsova.wordpress.com/2015/02/11/gamergate-interview-with-agness-kaku/ (https://cirsova.wordpress.com/2015/02/11/gamergate-interview-with-agness-kaku/)

The thing about office layouts is weird, but I guess it's good for remembering people and little anecdotes.

On the plus side, there's finally confirmation of the LSD-in-the-coffee.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 13, 2018, 02:53:16 PM
Whoa hold the phone, it looks like they're taking the best parts of all 3 books and editing it into a proper volume. This is probably what you should read:

https://vol.co/product/japansoft-oral-history/ (https://vol.co/product/japansoft-oral-history/)
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: StealthFan on November 13, 2018, 08:34:17 PM
This thread was made for meeee.

Only I still like games from last gen. This gen though? Yikes.

PS2/XBOX/GC will always be the GOAT gen. Not nostalgia talking, as I still play games from that era on a regular basis. Was the last great gen for JRPG's too.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on November 13, 2018, 08:39:54 PM
what ps2 gen games you play stealth
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: StealthFan on November 13, 2018, 08:44:54 PM
what ps2 gen games you play stealth

I am going through Panzer Dragoon Orta and Mercenaries at the moment. Getting Echo Night and Fatal Frame 1 next week. Hulk: Ultimate Destruction still owns and I play it every couple of years. I need to replace my broken OG Xbox because I bought a ton of games last year but the Xbox I got with them was defective. Died right before the end of Otogi 2 :(

I am going to do a PS2 JRPG binge soon, probably in December. Going to rent as many as I can from Gamefly. I never played through Digital Devil Saga 2 despite loving the first. I'll replay the first to have the plot fresh in my mind.
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Post by: tiesto on November 14, 2018, 10:14:36 AM
DDS2 has one of the all time best battle themes. Loved that game!

What other PS2 rpgs will you be binging on? I feel one of these days I have to go through Metal Saga, Nocturne, Xenosaga 2 and 3, and the Growlanser games.

I do think this gen is a big improvement over last one when it comes to rpgs. Nier Automata, Octopath, Xenoblade 2, the first half of Bravely Default, Alliance Alive, and DQ11 are amazing.
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Post by: Himu on November 14, 2018, 10:27:09 AM
DQ11 3ds you got from japan or ps4
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Post by: StealthFan on November 14, 2018, 01:44:21 PM
DDS2 has one of the all time best battle themes. Loved that game!

What other PS2 rpgs will you be binging on? I feel one of these days I have to go through Metal Saga, Nocturne, Xenosaga 2 and 3, and the Growlanser games.

I do think this gen is a big improvement over last one when it comes to rpgs. Nier Automata, Octopath, Xenoblade 2, the first half of Bravely Default, Alliance Alive, and DQ11 are amazing.

Receiving Tales Of The Abyss in a couple days. Grownlanser Generations and Dragon Quarter are next. Metal Saga is definitely on the list. I have Unlimited Saga on it too but I am not sure if I can handle that shit.
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Post by: Tasty on November 16, 2018, 10:56:49 AM
Neat article: https://vgdensetsu.tumblr.com/post/179656817318/designing-2d-graphics-in-the-japanese-industry
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Post by: Tasty on November 19, 2018, 06:31:28 PM
Another one: The DS GPU and its fun quirks (http://melonds.kuribo64.net/comments.php?id=56)
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Post by: Himu on November 19, 2018, 06:40:29 PM
lots of good stuff <3
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Post by: tiesto on November 19, 2018, 07:09:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ_VRnKNUUY

How come I never heard of Kid Dracula? Looked it up and it looks VERY expensive, unless you want the shitty Chinese pirate.
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Post by: bork on November 19, 2018, 10:31:58 PM
How come I never heard of Kid Dracula? Looked it up and it looks VERY expensive, unless you want the shitty Chinese pirate.

Wasn't popular at all and nobody cared about it until somebody proclaimed that it was "rare" and the price skyrocketed.  Didn't know that the Gameboy game was a sequel to the Famicom game though.  Thought they were the same!
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Post by: Himu on November 19, 2018, 11:01:20 PM
Yeah there’s kid dracula on the fami
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Post by: Tasty on December 11, 2018, 01:15:20 PM
How the Dreamcast copy protection was defeated (http://fabiensanglard.net/dreamcast_hacking/)
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Post by: porkbun on December 12, 2018, 05:52:18 PM
have a Retrocade 60 in 1 cabinet arriving from UPS tonight and one of those AliExpress knockoff NeoGeo bartops with 1200 games arriving by Christmas. Good thing I bought the wife a new iPhone and diamond earrings.
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Post by: bork on December 12, 2018, 11:04:23 PM
I got a Retropie kit last week and have it mostly set up and running now.  Probably could have gotten it cheaper, but the kit I purchased off Amazon included everything you need to just put it inside the included case, switch it on, install Retropie/Emulation Station, add ROMs, and go.  I set it up to read games off a 256 GB flash drive and am working on filling it up with everything it can handle. 

The Pie is really small -almost half the size of an NES Classic Mini- and the Emulation Station front end is really easy to navigate.  It runs all the 8 and 16-bit era stuff pretty much perfectly and can also handle PS1 games pretty much perfectly as far as I can tell.  You can also enable texture smoothing/filtering which I did not think it would be able to handle, but the Pi 3+ models have enough power to keep games running at their intended framerates with these enhancements on.  It can't run N64 games all that well, but that's OK- I have the GPD WIN 2 for more powerful console emulation.

At some point I'd like to get a bar top arcade unit and stick this thing inside it.  Really easy way to run old arcade games!
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Post by: benjipwns on December 12, 2018, 11:51:53 PM
How the Dreamcast copy protection was defeated (http://fabiensanglard.net/dreamcast_hacking/)
I remember this as it happened and each revelation made it clear it was a matter of when, not how. The MIL-CD thing led to a bunch of groups saying basically that and Utopia got there first.

There was also a trick found with burning the content in reverse order (packing an iso then having it reversed at a hex level or something, then burn THAT) onto the discs would autoboot certain ones because of the OS used and because Sega was in general lazy about all of this. That latter point you can tell by as the article states, Sega's attempts to combat this were just to disable MIL-CD support, not you know, actually fix anything. Because by that point the groups already had moved onto making everything self-booting without the need for it. I think if you had the later revisions it just had to do an extra step.

All this stuff is actually why there's a big project that's been going on to re-rip the Dreamcast games and repackage them. Setting the Dreamcast into these different modes wears out the drive, you can actually physically hear it grinding worse than normal if you use an early rip. They figured out some way to have it stay in a single mode and keep the drive speed constant or something that makes it so the drive isn't constantly shifting. Also improved padding where it's the data cloned, which became standard eventually. It doesn't spin down to move the laserhead as often. I've seen some claims, but I can't confirm anything, that the latest project is supposed to actually be healthier for the Dreamcast than using a lot of the actual games because of the improved packaging. I know we all have at least one retail game that makes the Dreamcast sound like it's grinding up the disc and the drive and everything else inside, Metropolis Street Racer pretty infamously has copies that do this, and I thankfully have one of those copies versus the "Greatest Hits" one which I think fixes it a bit. I believe it's mostly earlier titles, especially ones that actually did fill up or nearly fill up the disc and then seek all over it.

The PS1 actually has this same problem with having to do re-seeks across the disc, and as the drive wears it becomes quite noticeable. PS2 Slim's also have it. (Regular PS2's probably do as well, but you can't hear it over everything else from one of those beasts. Same for Xboxes probably.)

Lazy devs not packing their data better using methods that came out years after their games. ::)
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Post by: porkbun on December 13, 2018, 08:29:11 AM
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/gweilo845/Mobile%20Uploads/2018-12/IMG_20181212_192151_zpstgezbuxe.jpg)
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Post by: The Sceneman on December 13, 2018, 03:51:35 PM
Is Ecco the Dolphin worth playing
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Post by: porkbun on December 25, 2018, 08:56:15 AM
Nothing says Christmas like Pit Fighter on a bootleg cabinet

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/gweilo845/Mobile%20Uploads/2018-12/IMG_20181224_164531_zpsxea9ef4l.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/gweilo845/Mobile%20Uploads/2018-12/IMG_20181224_163022_zpsetwncmec.jpg)
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Post by: Himu on December 25, 2018, 08:59:19 AM
Is Ecco the Dolphin worth playing

Absolutely. It’s a mind boggling game with insane atmosphere and story. Better than Sonic.
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Post by: Positive Touch on December 25, 2018, 09:37:10 AM
great graphics abs the sega cd version has nice music but the controls make it fucking impossible. swim around the first map for awhile then shut it off and move to something better.
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Post by: bork on December 25, 2018, 03:04:54 PM
Nothing says Christmas like Pit Fighter on a bootleg cabinet

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/gweilo845/Mobile%20Uploads/2018-12/IMG_20181224_164531_zpsxea9ef4l.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/gweilo845/Mobile%20Uploads/2018-12/IMG_20181224_163022_zpsetwncmec.jpg)

1. Why are you torturing yourself with Pit Fighter
2. Why are you hosting your photos on Photobucket?  Use Imgur or something and get rid of that awful watermark!  :P
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Post by: bork on December 25, 2018, 04:02:06 PM
https://twitter.com/GameHistoryOrg/status/1077588947390418945
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Post by: HardcoreRetro on December 25, 2018, 04:19:19 PM
Is Ecco the Dolphin worth playing

Absolutely. It’s a mind boggling game with insane atmosphere and story. Better than Sonic.

Let's not forget that it's based on the NASA dolphin that comitted suicide because his trainer wasn't allowed to jerk him off anymore. The dolphin was being trained to communicate with humans and aliens.
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Post by: porkbun on December 26, 2018, 08:35:30 AM
Nothing says Christmas like Pit Fighter on a bootleg cabinet

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/gweilo845/Mobile%20Uploads/2018-12/IMG_20181224_164531_zpsxea9ef4l.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/gweilo845/Mobile%20Uploads/2018-12/IMG_20181224_163022_zpsetwncmec.jpg)

1. Why are you torturing yourself with Pit Fighter
2. Why are you hosting your photos on Photobucket?  Use Imgur or something and get rid of that awful watermark!  :P

I actually like Pit Fighter, but I'm a sucker for the 90s digitized/FMV games.
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Post by: bork on December 26, 2018, 01:34:25 PM
Did you ever play Guardians Of The Hood?
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Post by: porkbun on December 27, 2018, 09:02:25 AM
I actually played it in the arcade at Camp Snoopy in the Mall of America back in the 90s and always wanted to replay it again.  I recently put it on my SNES Classic and... it's not that good.  Shitty hit detection and the control system is wonky as hell, especially mapped to a SNES controller.  I do enjoy the cheese factor and managed to play through it,  The characters were going to be in Pit Fighter II on the Genesis, which got pretty far along before it was scrapped.  I've been trying to find a ROM of that for a long time.
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Post by: porkbun on December 27, 2018, 09:07:17 AM
Added some more art to my minicade

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/gweilo845/Mobile%20Uploads/2018-12/IMG_20181227_064110_629_zpsiw8hjdra.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/gweilo845/Mobile%20Uploads/2018-12/IMG_20181226_183145_zpsoy1q5nhx.jpg)
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Post by: Himu on December 27, 2018, 09:13:31 AM
Happ! What pound is the spring?
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Post by: Nintex on December 27, 2018, 10:08:23 AM
https://twitter.com/GameHistoryOrg/status/1077588947390418945
Crazy to read how much of Nintendo's influence changed Sim City from simulation like software with no goal to an actual game with goals and rewards.
Kinda weird Nintendo never went back to it with the N64 or GameCube. 
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Post by: bork on December 27, 2018, 10:14:32 AM
Don't even remember Sim City 2000 on SNES.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QoCc3xzn9s
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Post by: bork on December 27, 2018, 10:16:59 AM
Kinda weird Nintendo never went back to it with the N64 or GameCube.

They did...on the N64 DD. 
:leon

Did not know about this either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSduUGL4pXE
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Post by: Nintex on December 27, 2018, 10:55:02 AM
Kinda weird Nintendo never went back to it with the N64 or GameCube.

They did...on the N64 DD. 
:leon

Did not know about this either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSduUGL4pXE
Woah, and it has advisor guy plus first person 'walk in your city' gameplay. A mixture of Simcopter and Simcity.

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However, in a twist, the player can then shrink their nigh omniscient overhead perspective into a first-person, citizen-on-the-streets view. While in this perspective, other Sims can be interacted with. They will tell the player about their lives and neighborhoods. Sighting a gun toting criminal on the sidewalk is a good indicator that more police stations need to be constructed. These city dwellers are rendered as cartoon sprites.

Apart from the ability to walk the streets there is some additional city interactivity available in the first-person perspective.
At airports, the player can now access a helicopter. The vehicles' horizontal movement is controlled via the control stick and vertical movement with the up and down c-buttons.
In a hide-and-seek mini-game Dr. Wright assigns you a person to find on the streets of your city. A bar on the bottom of the screen shows if you are drawing near to the quested person. There are some rewards to be had from listening to these persons' stories.
If a rail system is in play players can board it; it can also be ridden, and the player may look out of the window of their car.
Using Mario Artist: Paint Studio players can create a character, animated with two frames of animation, and import him or her into SimCity 64. This character can roam the streets until the player decides to make a new one.

Ah yes, Nintendo. Always loved wasting resources on software for obscure pheripherals only available in Japan. 
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Post by: porkbun on December 27, 2018, 03:19:41 PM
Happ! What pound is the spring?

I'm not sure.  I didn't build it.

I am thinking about building one this year though.  Maybe something fairly simple like getting an Arcade 1up and using the cabinet and monitor but customizing the games.
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Post by: Himu on December 27, 2018, 03:57:27 PM
Ohhh this is one of those mini cabs? Nvm
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Post by: bork on December 27, 2018, 09:03:38 PM
Ohhh this is one of those mini cabs? Nvm

Looks like bar tops.

That's what I'd like to get at some point...a full-size cab is just too damn big for my place.
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Post by: porkbun on December 28, 2018, 08:51:31 AM
Yeah I have 2 Arcade 1 Ups (Atari 12 in 1 and Street Fighter) with risers and 2 bar tops (60 in 1 multicade jamma board and Pandora's Box 9 built into a Neo Geo knockoff).  The multicade didn't have any art on it so I've been adding stuff to it.
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Post by: Shuri on December 28, 2018, 09:43:17 AM
December was a pretty crazy month for me-

1) Picked up a hori fighting stick for saturn
2) Picked up a dual stick joystick for the sat with Virtua ON, Gundam Side Story 1-2-3 and GunGriffon 2
3) random sat pickups: NBA JAM, UMK3
4) PGM Jamma board + Do Don Pachi Daioujou convertion (I'm not dropping 2k on a single arcade pcb
5) motherfucking BAD DUDES arcade board. The game is still awesome.
6) Dreamcast GDEMU.

The dreamcast gdemu is AMAZING. Everything loads so quickly, and it resurrected my old dreamcast. It also patch every game for VGA support. I use a vga box for my dc and it was annoying to boot my originals imports with a bootleg codebreaker disk.

you can get  :doge alternative  :doge gd emu boards on ebay for 70$, the market for legit boards is plagued with scalpers.

My wallet am cry
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Post by: Great Rumbler on December 31, 2018, 06:32:02 PM
Eh Himu, you need to watch this animu on Netflix:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S51PKANf92c
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Post by: Himu on December 31, 2018, 06:36:54 PM
I'm starting it tonight. Been meaning to watch.
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Post by: tiesto on December 31, 2018, 08:59:43 PM
Eh Himu, you need to watch this animu on Netflix:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S51PKANf92c

This show is fucking great, my girlfriend and I have been watching, saw the first 8 eps and will probably finish tonight. Love the different references although it's a bit inconsistent between using US and JP names for things.
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Post by: bork on January 01, 2019, 10:22:43 PM
Put this in the anime thread, but- High Score Girl isn't the complete series.  The anime covers about half the story and has kind of an incomplete ending.  There's three more episodes coming out as OVAs in March.  Don't know if/when Netflix will get them.

And yeah, Himu, how have you not watched this yet?  SFII is a huge focus in the series and it goes right up through each release, including Super Turbo when people find out about Akuma for the first time!
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Post by: bork on January 01, 2019, 10:26:40 PM
Mortal Kombat even makes an appearance!  :lol

https://twitter.com/Anakron199X/status/1034826721067978753
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Post by: Himu on January 01, 2019, 10:28:33 PM
Yeah I've been watching. I'm on ep 11, and although I have some issues with the story I love it to bits and it's like it was made specifically for people like me in mind.

Seeing my main fighting game (ST) get love really makes me smile.
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Post by: Sho Nuff on January 02, 2019, 10:37:33 AM
Oh wait, is this show actually good and not Loli Uguu Trash? (I assume everything is unless it is BAKI)
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Post by: tiesto on January 02, 2019, 10:58:18 AM
Oh wait, is this show actually good and not Loli Uguu Trash? (I assume everything is unless it is BAKI)

It doesn't have any loli stuff at all but there's definitely some over-expressive, hyperactive anime comedy stuff in it.
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Post by: bork on January 02, 2019, 03:03:39 PM
Oh wait, is this show actually good and not Loli Uguu Trash? (I assume everything is unless it is BAKI)

Yes!  No loli (well, they're kids, but it's not all uguu'd up), very little cliche animu crap, or any of that junk.   Just good, clean nostalgia-filled fun.  Starts off during the beginning of the 16-bit era (besides the arcade games, the main character plays a lot of PC-Engine!) and goes up through the beginning of the 32-bit era.  Has lots of actual video game footage included.  Made me feel all nostalgic.  :-[
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Post by: tiesto on January 02, 2019, 05:32:16 PM
Also, one thing I thought of.
Akira Ono = Akira Nishitani (SF2, Final Fight director) and Yoshinori Ono
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Post by: bork on January 02, 2019, 08:04:36 PM
Also, one thing I thought of.
Akira Ono = Akira Nishitani (SF2, Final Fight director) and Yoshinori Ono

It's possible, but I kind of doubt it.  Different Kanji for Ono, too.

Here's some unrelated trivia about the comic-
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On August 5, 2014, Osaka District Police searched the offices of Square Enix, the publishers of High Score Girl acting on an IP violation claim by SNK Playmore stating that the manga allegedly features over 100 instances of characters from The King of Fighters, Samurai Shodown, and other fighting games. In response, Square Enix voluntarily recalled all printed volumes and temporarily suspended publication of future volumes and digital sales. However, the manga continued its run in Monthly Big Gangan.

In August 2015, it was reported that Square Enix and SNK Playmore had reached a settlement, cancelling the lawsuit and enabling the manga to be sold again in different formats.
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Post by: Himu on January 02, 2019, 09:40:50 PM
It’s also Ouno, not Ono.
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Post by: Sho Nuff on January 02, 2019, 11:11:23 PM
Also, one thing I thought of.
Akira Ono = Akira Nishitani (SF2, Final Fight director) and Yoshinori Ono

It's possible, but I kind of doubt it.  Different Kanji for Ono, too.

Here's some unrelated trivia about the comic-
Quote
On August 5, 2014, Osaka District Police searched the offices of Square Enix, the publishers of High Score Girl acting on an IP violation claim by SNK Playmore stating that the manga allegedly features over 100 instances of characters from The King of Fighters, Samurai Shodown, and other fighting games. In response, Square Enix voluntarily recalled all printed volumes and temporarily suspended publication of future volumes and digital sales. However, the manga continued its run in Monthly Big Gangan.

In August 2015, it was reported that Square Enix and SNK Playmore had reached a settlement, cancelling the lawsuit and enabling the manga to be sold again in different formats.

Knowing how litigious / aggressive / paranoid Square's legal team is, the fact that they got to that point is absolutely mind-blowing. You'd think they would have caught that and gotten permission before letting that out the door. Insane.
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Post by: bork on January 02, 2019, 11:24:22 PM
It’s also Ouno, not Ono.

Or Ōno or Oono...oh no!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0ijavUSOSU
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Post by: Himu on January 03, 2019, 04:01:47 AM
i finished the anime, read the rest in english that's available and now reading the raws. 11 chapters left.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: benjipwns on January 03, 2019, 04:23:00 AM
They did...on the N64 DD. 
:leon

Did not know about this either.
SimCity64 was one of the first games they showed on the 64DD. The original EXCITING SELLING POINT was the ability to walk around your city IN TRUE 3D. Of course it got delayed five years or whatever and then the 64DD bomba with developers even in Japan so they killed the whole thing.

There's also a SimCity 2000 release on N64.

PC Gamers got to VISIT THEIR CITIES IN 3D in:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streets_of_SimCity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SimCopter

The latter of which has this great story:
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The game gained controversy when it was discovered that designer Jacques Servin inserted an easter egg that generated shirtless "himbos" (male bimbos) in Speedo trunks who hugged and kissed each other and appear in great numbers on certain dates, such as Friday the 13th. Their fluorescent nipples were drawn with a special rendering mode usually reserved for fog-piercing runway landing lights, so they could easily be seen from long distances in bad weather. The egg caused hundreds of himbos to swarm and crowd around the helicopter, where they would be slashed up by the blades, and then need to be air-lifted to the hospital—which earned the player easy money. The egg was caught shortly after release and removed from future copies of the game.

The designer was fired afterwards for adding unauthorized content (which delayed the release of the game, and caused Maxis to miss Christmas season). He cited his actions as a response to the intolerable working conditions he allegedly suffered at Maxis.[1][2] This caused a member of AIDS Coalition to Unleash Power (ACT UP), a gay AIDS organization, to call for a boycott of all of Maxis' products, a measure which Servin rejected.[3] Some months later, a group named RTMark announced its existence and claimed responsibility for the himbos being inserted into the game along with 16 other acts of "creative subversion."[4] Servin stated that he had received a money order of $5,000 from RTMark for the prank.[4]

I want to say the whole VISIT YOUR CITY IN 3D thing was proclaimed for each new SimCity game but then never made it into any other games except the Wii one. SimCity 3000 at one point was supposed to be totally 3D but they scrapped the design entirely because it created all sorts of issues they hadn't planned for.
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Post by: demi on January 03, 2019, 07:15:12 AM
New Sega Saturn Translation (!) for Linkle Liver Story

http://aishsha.blogspot.com/2019/01/linkle-liver-story-released.html
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on January 03, 2019, 10:23:02 AM
New Sega Saturn Translation (!) for Linkle Liver Story

http://aishsha.blogspot.com/2019/01/linkle-liver-story-released.html

Holy FUCK! I love this game!
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Post by: Sho Nuff on January 03, 2019, 11:07:08 AM
New Sega Saturn Translation (!) for Linkle Liver Story

http://aishsha.blogspot.com/2019/01/linkle-liver-story-released.html

Well THERE'S something you don't see every day
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Post by: Himu on January 03, 2019, 12:41:39 PM
Considering doing a weekly arcade/retro game stream and curious if anyone else is interested in joining.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rufus on January 03, 2019, 02:16:16 PM
New Sega Saturn Translation (!) for Linkle Liver Story

http://aishsha.blogspot.com/2019/01/linkle-liver-story-released.html
SSF is the recommended emulator. Getting that to read disc images is such a pain. (As I have found out yet again.) I just burned a fucking disc like a neanderthal. Let's see how this goes.

-

Works fine on SSF 0.12betaR4, which is the latest stable release. Played about an hour and beat the first boss without any issues. Only had a brief stutter in the opening cutscene.
The music in the starting area sounded odd, but that appears to be normal. The instrument just sounds bad. :doge

I used the default settings for SSF, didn't touch anything besides screen size. HLE BIOS works fine also, no need to track down a real one.
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Post by: demi on January 03, 2019, 03:27:48 PM
Why SSF? What about Mednafen or Yaba Sanshiro (or what used to be called Yabause)?
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rufus on January 03, 2019, 03:31:40 PM
Readme says Mednafen crashes when you go to the world map and Yabause has sound glitches at the start and end. I'll try Yabause (0.9.15) in a bit.
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Post by: demi on January 03, 2019, 03:37:40 PM
I am referring to this, just did a search for "Saturn" on r/emulation

https://old.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/9rkzk3/yaba_sanshiro_220_sega_saturn_emulator_windows/
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rufus on January 03, 2019, 04:07:56 PM
They refer to them interchangeably, so I assume they have the same issues. The version number they give is yabause-0.9.14, which is what the retroarch core is called. Tried that, but it didn't even start. Could be something fucky with my retroarch config, but I can't be bothered to troubleshoot this right now. Standalone Yabause 0.9.15 works, but exhibits the sound glitch (a constant high-pitched note that gets louder with every input :doge ).

Mednafen boots, but I didn't play long enough to confirm the world map crash. No reason to assume they're not correct about it, anyway. 

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Emulators to use
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The game is VERY picky with the emulation software.
Hence, it simply freezes eventually on mednafen and
has some issues on the most popular emulators available
today.
 - SSF (number 1 recommended, though it has some
   reported lag and framerate drop issues);
 - Yabause/YabaSanshiro (play the game fine mostly,
   but experience troubles when playing separate
   musical pieces in the beginning and the end:
   yabause-0.9.14 version was used for testing);
 - Mednafen (v1.22.0 or earlier) is not recommended -
   game freezes on global map;
 - Real hardware. THE GAME HAS BEEN FULLY TESTED
   ON AN ACTUAL SEGA SATURN SYSTEM WITHOUT ANY
   ISSUES DETECTED. It goes without saying that
   it is the best option to play the game.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rufus on January 03, 2019, 04:46:35 PM
Tried standalone Yabause 0.9.14 too for the hell of it. No high pitched sound this time, but the sound effects are all kinds of broken. Crackly or don't even trigger properly. The music warbles like hell, too. And the shadow under the protag is bright white. Scratch that, all shadows are white. Some static sprites (two large trees) move a couple pixels in the opposite of whatever direction you press on the d-pad.

Hold on, I was using the OpenGL renderer (inherited the settings from the newer version I tried before). The software renderer handles the shadows correctly, at least.

Shame, because yabause has a lot less input lag than SSF.

I also tried Kronos, which is yet another fork of Yabause or uoYabause or YabaSanshiro (sigh), but that didn't even boot.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rufus on January 05, 2019, 04:30:11 PM
Finished it just now. Cute game. Very easy and short, but enjoyable nonetheless.

Ran perfectly on SSF, too, outside of a couple slowdowns around 3D objects. It was worst in an early bossfight against a big moai head, but smooth sailing afterward.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on January 06, 2019, 12:23:36 PM
https://twitter.com/iPlaySEGA/status/1081812148794376192
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on January 06, 2019, 12:24:57 PM
wtf
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Nintex on January 06, 2019, 05:10:11 PM
That's like Homers car of retro stuff  :doge

All it needs is a label that says: "Hi-Definition Graphics"
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Shuri on January 06, 2019, 08:26:40 PM
That's like Homers car of retro stuff  :doge

All it needs is a label that says: "Hi-Definition Graphics"
I'm surprised that it's a real SMS and not a pi3 with some 5000 roms in 1 megapack running.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 06, 2019, 10:39:25 PM
That's like Homers car of retro stuff  :doge

All it needs is a label that says: "Hi-Definition Graphics"
I'm surprised that it's a real SMS and not a pi3 with some 5000 roms in 1 megapack running.

The kind of person that would shell out a few hundred for a custom case like that would definitely want to have it contain a real Master System.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: benjipwns on January 06, 2019, 11:53:14 PM
But which model Master System is it?

 :expert
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on January 12, 2019, 09:44:44 AM
NyQuil and Rolling Thunder make for a good Friday night.  ASS strikes again!

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/gweilo845/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20190111_215943_508_zpsaqkuxlwm.jpg)

Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on January 12, 2019, 11:53:20 AM
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/gweilo845/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20190112_105051_370_zpsgo8ghtou.jpg)
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on January 12, 2019, 12:15:46 PM
Hell yeah
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on January 12, 2019, 02:32:56 PM
So I have an actual arcade now with  actual cabs with top competition. I feel so damn blessed. Also getting Capcom Beat Em Up collection on Steam. :)
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: benjipwns on January 13, 2019, 12:07:26 AM
Channel of just trying out random games on emulators, often at petty high settings, as revisions come along: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC993yJ3ET5aFc6cRyukofjQ/videos (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC993yJ3ET5aFc6cRyukofjQ/videos)

Retro...ish since he's been focusing on 360/PS3/Switch emulators lately, but there are some Xbox and earlier stuff he still posts from time to time, especially Xbox as the emulators have started coming a long way since the "assistance" rumors last year right before MS started releasing the new emulators for the One.

This Gun Valkyrie one caught my eye because of how smooth it is while rarely seriously taxing the CPU/GPU, almost looks like the dude is just playing a PC game from 2002 at 1080p:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqGfhzCqGAQ
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: naff on January 16, 2019, 07:15:14 PM
huh, cool, looks very similar to an early Microsoft Studios tps Outwars that i loved
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFJ2OcXLXI4
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on January 16, 2019, 07:25:48 PM
Gun Valkyrie was my jam! :lawd   But I could only play it with the Duke controller.  :doge

Speaking of Gun Valkyrie and jam, this track is still and will forever be dope...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKsBPpOVp2I
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on January 21, 2019, 05:42:30 PM
Latest bootleg console acquired is the Coolbaby. Comes with 600 GBA, NES, SNES and Genesis games and there's a SD card slot to add more. Threw on about 4500 arcade games.

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/gweilo845/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20190119_104736_zpscilqwr6d.jpg)
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on January 21, 2019, 06:26:19 PM
Getting my 1 1/2 year old into the classics. He can clear out about half of the maze but gets distracted hitting the start button because it sounds like a fart.

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/gweilo845/Mobile%20Uploads/2019-01/IMG_20190120_165021_zpsvobvzsbr.jpg)
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on January 24, 2019, 05:16:35 PM
I realized I've never played a game gear game. Any game gear games worth looking into? I heard the Shining Force game on there isn't that bad. Any gems there?
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on January 24, 2019, 05:30:49 PM
I realized I've never played a game gear game. Any game gear games worth looking into? I heard the Shining Force game on there isn't that bad. Any gems there?

Sylvan Tale is a great action rpg and one of the best games on the system. Tails Adventure is a decent early Metroidvania. Defenders of Oasis is a cool oldskool rpg with an Arabian Nights theme. Zenki is a nice action platformer, and I've heard great things about the 2 Shinobi games for it.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on January 24, 2019, 05:35:38 PM
There's some neat Game Gear games.

There's some translations for it here:

http://www.romhacking.net/?page=translations&genre=&platform=12&status=&languageid=12&perpage=20&title=&author=&transsearch=Go

Crystal Warriors, Defenders of Oasis are available on 3DS VC afaik
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on January 24, 2019, 07:44:10 PM
I realized I've never played a game gear game. Any game gear games worth looking into? I heard the Shining Force game on there isn't that bad. Any gems there?

Don't bother with Shining Force on Game Gear.  It was the second part of the SF Gaiden series that wasn't initially localized, IIRC- The Sega CD Shining Force game is actually a 16-bit upgrade that contains both GG games with improved graphics and CD music, plus additional story/scenarios. 
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on January 24, 2019, 07:54:20 PM
Retrotink 2X came today.  Gonna try hooking up something up to test it out in a few minutes.  If it's as good as the reviews say, might be time to ditch the last CRT I have in the house.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on January 24, 2019, 07:56:31 PM
What crt is it
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on January 24, 2019, 08:08:30 PM
What crt is it

It's a Samsung GXTV.  Not gonna sell it because fuck hauling that out somewhere and shipping prices are sure to be astronomical.  I see that you can hook up stuff like Retropies to it, so I could just re-purpose it into an old-school arcade monitor of sorts for emulation.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on January 24, 2019, 09:09:19 PM
Well, that was...interesting.  First I tried PS2- got no sound, the controllers didn't work, and the disc wouldn't read.  Thought it was broken, but...nope.  Forgot I had to reset it to get the mod chip to kick in and play Japanese games.  And the controllers just didn't age well and need to be replaced.  But it looked pretty nice and I didn't feel any lag. 

Then I tried Game Cube.  No sound again, so OK- either the Retrotink was busted or it was the monitor I was using.  Hooked it up to a little HDTV and got sound, so I guess the Retrotink doesn't play well with monitors or I needed to change something, dunno. 

I used to use this TV for PS3/360 games and felt major lag when I'd try playing older systems on it.  Didn't feel that way at all and PN03 ran great!  So that's pretty impressive.  Now I just need to find my component cables or see if I have S-Video lying around.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on January 24, 2019, 09:18:51 PM
My advice? Just get a smaller but better crt. Find something with s video and component and only use the tv for pre ps2/360 systems.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on January 24, 2019, 09:24:46 PM
My advice? Just get a smaller but better crt. Find something with s video and component and only use the tv for pre ps2/360 systems.

I don't want to deal with CRTs anymore and the Retrotink is pretty awesome.  Even the smaller ones can be bulky and heavy.  The Samsung GXTV was a "gamer TV" and while it only had composite inputs, the screen is small enough that it doesn't matter- games look pretty good on it, it has huge speakers, and a subwoofer built in. 
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ewcAAOSwGvhUGNRt/s-l300.jpg)

It just takes up space that I really don't have available in my game room.

Next up is trying the Retrotink on my 55" 4K TV.  That's the real test- if games look good on a screen that large, then I'll finally be able to use one TV to play everything. 

If I was going to really go all out for retro gaming, I wouldn't hunt down a PVM anyway- I'd buy a Framemeister.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on January 24, 2019, 09:54:37 PM
OK, wow, holy shit.

Looks amazing on a big screen.  Tried Outrun 2SP for PS2 and felt no lag whatsoever.  This is really good for a $99 product!

(https://i.imgur.com/fLQJVxV.jpg)
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on January 24, 2019, 10:05:57 PM
Game Sack GG episode is worth watching too for more advice:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSLmNhZcekg
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on January 24, 2019, 10:06:46 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/RUyO1e4.jpg)

:lawd :mouf
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on January 24, 2019, 11:18:28 PM
Found a working PS2 controller!  Trashed the other two.  Pretty sure they broke like 15 years ago.  No idea why I still had them.
(https://i.imgur.com/VltzKMy.jpg)

Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on January 24, 2019, 11:20:25 PM
Here's F-Zero GX on Game Cube, in widescreen mode, via Component.  You cannot use progressive scan with the Retrotink, however.  Game Cube looks blurrier than PS2 does on this thing and wasn't as impressive, but still looked really good.  Again, zero noticeable lag.  Gameboy games on the Gameboy Player also ran nicely and felt responsive.

(https://i.imgur.com/wV54prH.jpg)

This is absolutely a game-changer for me- being able to play older systems on a large modern TV and have it look and respond this well is just amazing. 

Next up is to get everything organized and hooked up.  And I still have to try out Dreamcast and Wii.  Maybe PSP too.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on January 24, 2019, 11:32:15 PM
What’s that fighting game?
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on January 24, 2019, 11:34:57 PM
What’s that fighting game?

Shin Gouketsuji Ichizoku: Bonnou Kaihou on PS2.  Port of Power Instinct Matrimelee that had a few more characters added from PI2, but lost the bonus characters from Rage Of The Dragons that the NeoGeo Matrimlee had.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on January 24, 2019, 11:37:12 PM
Oh yeah, and BOBBY.   :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCVRYEvCdJc

Crazy soundtrack, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn7eIfhqf3g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-FphVJ7uuI
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on January 25, 2019, 12:04:47 AM
How do I play import ps2 games? Considering getting a fat and hd loader but idk.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on January 25, 2019, 12:05:41 AM
Also what the Christ, female loli pope
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on January 25, 2019, 12:13:54 AM
How do I play import ps2 games? Considering getting a fat and hd loader but idk.

Beats me what the easiest way is nowadays.  I have a slim PS2 with a mod chip from back when it first came out. 

I also need to try playing PS2 games emulated.  Have actually never done this before!

Also what the Christ, female loli pope

Final boss!
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: benjipwns on January 25, 2019, 03:02:59 AM
Buying a Japanese PS2 would probably be the easiest for just popping in discs and going, I'm sure there's tons of used ones you can grab off almost any site.

PCSX2 doesn't have particularly high requirements, if you can run Dolphin you can run it. If you aren't boosting the resolution, or just scaling it, you'd have to have some pretty outdated hardware for it to not work with most games. It does not have the world's greatest compability for being such a long standing and popular emulator, it's only at like 96%. The project has varied all over the place from trying compability to trying to be cycle accurate and back again so it can be quirky.

Don't even grab the stable installer, it's like four years out of date or something, just grab the latest build.

PS2 games can be super weird because the hardware is super weird, you might be running Twisted Metal Black at 4K and 60fps perfectly with all the fancy features jacked up, then pop in Dead or Alive 2 and watch it crawl at original resolution, then move onto God of War and be back to maxing out everything. (This is not a statement on their current state of emulation, just a somewhat hypothetical example.)

If you're doing any playing of PC games over the last few years, if you target say 640x480 as the internal framebuffer (higher than any PS2 game actually runs at iirc) and then scale up to 1080p, I'm sure most games will be fine enough. If you have pretty good hardware that chews up most recent PC games doubling or tripling the original internal resolution is quite easy to get away with.

On a TV it won't save you huge amounts since scaling isn't majorly stressful on GPUs but letting the TV handle any upscaling might be the difference between keeping the framerate stable and occasional drops or frame mistimings.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: benjipwns on January 25, 2019, 03:16:13 AM
bork, you might have better success with the Wii in GameCube mode than an actual GameCube, IIRC, the Wii can have a slightly cleaner output noticeable on large screens. It clocks down but I think it still handles widescreen as a Wii.

Of course, what you really want to do is run that F-Zero in Dolphin at 4K with 16xAF and 4xMSAA. :doge
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 25, 2019, 04:51:46 AM
I've got a Japanese White PS2 that I got off ebay with a few games for around $150. This was a few years ago though.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on January 25, 2019, 10:29:43 AM
I realized I've never played a game gear game. Any game gear games worth looking into? I heard the Shining Force game on there isn't that bad. Any gems there?

I like the Shinobi games quite a bit.

Vampire (aka Master of Darkness) is a nice Castlevania rip-off.

There's a lot of good translations of Sega games on there (particularly Sonic and Streets of Rage) but if you're using an emulator, you're better off just playing the original versions.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on January 25, 2019, 10:47:57 AM
Here’s the thing about ps2: Sony made it out of some shoddy parts. If I had a choice I’d go with a fat ps2 but..DRE. I mostly want to play on original hardware too.

So I’m all about making ps2 last as much as possible because I think it’s the greatest system ever made. So the best way besides emulation I’ve come to the conclusion of doing this is a fat ps2 with hd loader. That way I can rip my own discs, be saved by the ps2’s crappy laser, and if the hdd dies I could always just rip again. But if the disc drive dies ps2’s might be even more expensive, or even more rare the next time I want to buy one. So I want a ps2 to last.

Currently rocking a ps2 slim.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on January 25, 2019, 10:54:38 AM
What kind of hdd are you allowed to use in ps2 anyways? Does it have to be official?
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on January 25, 2019, 11:01:08 AM
Looks like you can use a PS2 slim to play .ISOs too.

http://psx-scene.com/forums/f100/play-isos-external-hard-disk-ps2-slim-scph-70004-matrix-infinity-v1-5-any-options-115177/

My PS2 slim is still going strong.  It was skipping a bit when I turned it on last night, but one quick lens cleaning later and it was running like a champ again.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on January 25, 2019, 11:10:22 AM
But that fat ps2 aesthetic. When I think of ps2 I think of that fat fucker. Spinning the logo. Standing it up on its side. God it’s the system that makes my heart beat fast. I’ll look into this method though. :)
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: benjipwns on January 25, 2019, 11:28:28 AM
The logo on the slim turns too, so you can stand it up.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on January 25, 2019, 11:30:31 AM
The biggest priority for me import wise are simple series, Sega Ages, Sega rally 2006, Hudson collections.

Look at this shit.

https://youtu.be/h3WJYFlOrEc
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rufus on January 25, 2019, 11:43:24 AM
You can load PS2 games over a network, too. I never bothered tracking down an adapter for my fatty to try it out myself, but apparently it's pretty easy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk6ps8jTSxY
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: benjipwns on January 25, 2019, 11:48:49 AM
Can do that with an Xbox too. IIRC, the main problem is when games are relying on a specific read speed.

Some 360 games, Halo 3 I think, had a similar issue if you installed them to the hard drive.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 25, 2019, 01:53:29 PM
The top loader mod on a fat PS2 isn't too hard, that's what I used to do back in the day before I bought a Japanese slim PS2 from cvxfreak on GAF years ago.*

*There are a few games that won't work with the top loader method, one of the Sakura Wars games, that's why I ended up getting a Japanese console.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on January 25, 2019, 07:48:43 PM
The top loader mod on a fat PS2 isn't too hard, that's what I used to do back in the day before I bought a Japanese slim PS2 from cvxfreak on GAF years ago.*

*There are a few games that won't work with the top loader method, one of the Sakura Wars games, that's why I ended up getting a Japanese console.

I think there was also a similar method of using the disc for the top loader on the slim PS2s.  It didn't work for some games and is the same reason why I ended up getting a modded PS2 slim instead. 

Memories :thinking
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on January 25, 2019, 08:18:29 PM
Because nothing beats an original
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 26, 2019, 12:03:15 AM
The top loader mod on a fat PS2 isn't too hard, that's what I used to do back in the day before I bought a Japanese slim PS2 from cvxfreak on GAF years ago.*

*There are a few games that won't work with the top loader method, one of the Sakura Wars games, that's why I ended up getting a Japanese console.

I think there was also a similar method of using the disc for the top loader on the slim PS2s.  It didn't work for some games and is the same reason why I ended up getting a modded PS2 slim instead. 

Memories :thinking

I think it had to do with dual layer discs or something. The PS2 remake of the original Sakura Wars has that issue and won’t work with the top loader mod.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on January 26, 2019, 04:27:19 PM
This guy is working on a Ninja Warriors-style side-scrolling action game!  :o  You can switch between different visual/audio styles representing 32-bit, 16-bit, and 8-bit consoles/PCs.

Note:  :bowsette
https://twitter.com/Wren2284/status/1089163171787624448
https://twitter.com/Wren2284/status/964866451193716736
https://twitter.com/Wren2284/status/963504769166970880
https://twitter.com/Wren2284/status/963503862689751040
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on January 26, 2019, 05:04:32 PM
I’ve decided to invest in a crt. I’ve been thinking of it for a while because the lag in an hd set up isn’t good for old fighting games. We bring crts to local fighting game meet ups and I’ve wanted to bring Bushido Blade to a local for a while.

The benefits seem pretty obvious. So with me more dedicated to playing older games it makes sense to just finally bite the bullet rather than try hooking this stuff up to an hd set up. I dropped by the rents and...no crt from what I can find. :(

So I’m looking for a new one. What’s a good size? To my memory, tv size is different with crts compared to lcds. Like, a 20 inch lcd looks small as hell but a 20 inch crt feels beefy. I had a 10 inch in freshmen year and that was too small so I’m thinking 13-19 inches would be better? I don’t want it to take up much space because it won’t be the primary tv of course.

My life in gaming seems to have a good video on it? Posting so I can watch it later.

https://youtu.be/RAi8AVj9GV8

Then again, small crt size isn’t much a big deal. I’ve played on Sony PVM’s at tournaments and they’re absolutely fine so :idont

So update. Recently got a CRT and have been using it to play ps2 games in component it's really nice. :) PS2 never looked so good to me!

The tv supports AV, S-video, and component. I'm really in luck! It's not HD and only goes up to 480i but that's ok. It'll be good for every system I want to play on it. :)
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on January 26, 2019, 05:24:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqYjdIUg_fw
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on January 26, 2019, 07:39:23 PM
He's focused on the so-called "AAA" games, but there's plenty of other games that come out all the time that are great. 
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: paprikastaude on January 26, 2019, 09:16:12 PM
also 2 yo video that makes no sense in 2019 which has a great variety of non-open world AA and AAA games  i.e. proving his theory wrong  :doge and it's not like ubisoft ever was great to begin with.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: benjipwns on January 26, 2019, 11:43:43 PM
there are waaaayyyy too many colors in that Genesis mode imo

PCEngine i can buy if you tell me you've got a SuperCard in

 :expert
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on January 30, 2019, 08:38:55 PM
Latest addition to the home arcade is a Donkey Kong barcade with Raspberry Pi guts and 4000 games.  Of course the first thing I fired up was Pit Fighter 😂

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/gweilo845/Mobile%20Uploads/2019-01/IMG_20190129_2315192_zpse4uyqbxc.jpg)
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 01, 2019, 12:54:37 PM
I dunno, but his love for Pit Fighter is endearing.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on February 04, 2019, 12:48:48 AM
GT used to be so good.

https://youtu.be/kvy0XkMe3ug

https://youtu.be/FnALhJnVHRg
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rufus on February 04, 2019, 01:22:54 AM
That second video showed up in my recommendations a couple of days ago.

What's the connection, Google. Tell meee.

Anyway...

While I loved GT1, 2 and 4, I cannot get over those engine sounds any more. The excessive tire squeal is pure torture, also.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 04, 2019, 05:13:43 PM
I just finished RE2 on PSone

Kinda makes me wonder how they're gonna address some of the more far-out weirdo shit in that game in the remake

Next on deck: My copy of SILENT HILL 4: THE ROOM arrives today  :hyper

:bow Old short games :bow2
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on February 04, 2019, 05:29:15 PM
:bow Short and sweet :bow2
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on February 12, 2019, 07:18:43 PM
Pit Fighter and Guardians of the Hood combo platter as this evening's happy hour gaming.

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/gweilo845/IMG_20190212_175251_133_zpsgdbewdgp.jpg)
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on February 20, 2019, 09:02:47 AM
President's Day off playing some old-school games on a friend's projector.

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/gweilo845/Mobile%20Uploads/FB_IMG_1550671153555_zps0xhgi6hl.jpg)
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on February 20, 2019, 11:05:30 AM
PHOTO BUCKET
:rage  :ltg :hhh
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on February 20, 2019, 11:14:06 AM
I've had the account there for 15 years, I'm not changing to satisfy your white supremacist doxxer hate site.

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/gweilo845/Mobile%20Uploads/2019-02/FB_IMG_1550671144802_zpswz8ez9qy.jpg)
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on February 20, 2019, 02:55:05 PM
But the image quality is shit and that logo they plaster on there is atrocious.

:mindblown
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on February 22, 2019, 12:13:42 PM
I will be travelling next week and am wondering what kind of retro game to play in the hotel.

- Snatcher (Sega CD)
- Dreamweb (DOS)
- Axiom Verge (I know, not old)

Kinda have that sci-fi noir itch to play Snatcher to be honest but Dreamweb is just so good from what I tried it.

Snatcher is soooo good, definitely play that! Axiom Verge is also a pretty good Metroid style game that subverts expectations, boss fights kinda suck though.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on February 22, 2019, 01:01:42 PM
Snatcher is what popped my Kojima cherry.  It blew my feeble teenage mind back then.  Still holds up today, IMO.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on February 25, 2019, 10:20:49 AM
Snatcher is what popped my Kojima cherry.  It blew my feeble teenage mind back then.  Still holds up today, IMO.

ACT 1 SNATCH

Still my favorite Kojima game.  The plot actually makes sense, even if it is a big ol' Terminator/Blade Runner rip-off.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on February 26, 2019, 06:56:19 PM
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/gweilo845/Mobile%20Uploads/2019-02/FB_IMG_1551221722591_zpsbmghvtsr.jpg)

Lunchtime gaming with a new portable Sega system.  Comes with about 200 games and has a SD card slot to add more.  Not bad for $12.

Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on February 26, 2019, 08:25:18 PM
$12?!?  :lol

How is the quality for that price?
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on February 27, 2019, 08:46:07 AM
It's actually pretty good.  My only complaints is that the sound is too quiet with headphones on, you can't switch between 3 and 6 button mode so Forgotten Worlds doesn't work, and that it's kind of a hassle to find games because for whatever reason they randomized and repeat the games in a list of 77000 (??) games for some reason.  Haven't tried the SD card slot yet, but I would assume you can also run SMS and GG games on it.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on February 27, 2019, 08:52:16 AM
Uh,.. I'll buy one at that price!
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on February 27, 2019, 09:08:52 AM
does it have dogshit emulation like most of these chinese things?
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 27, 2019, 05:06:29 PM
Gimme link to $12 device
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on February 28, 2019, 08:10:07 AM

https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/R6y9NNA
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on February 28, 2019, 08:14:05 AM
No longer available.  :(  Dat jank ass PSP shell.  :lol
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on February 28, 2019, 10:59:14 AM
Decided to buy a better Raspberry Pi case and found this:

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/613AhI2QZ6L._SL1500_.jpg)

Seems to be the "new hotness" for Pi cases- has working power and reset buttons and comes with a little exhaust fan, too.  Getting an 8BitDo M30 pad today that should work nicely with it.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61pVi84c%2BrL._AC_.jpg)

There's also a new N30 Pro with the Mega Drive/Genesis color scheme, but I wouldn't recommend this model.  It's not as comfortable as the SN30 Pro models and the triggers can break.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/616hpG9dkCL._AC_.jpg)
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 01, 2019, 07:10:37 PM
Woo-ee that case is good af
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: chronovore on March 01, 2019, 08:33:10 PM
Why the fuck do you use photobucket in 2019

This thread is ALL ABOUT retro cred, so I don't understand your question.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on March 01, 2019, 10:19:32 PM
Woo-ee that case is good af

It's awesome!  Went ahead and changed it out.  You just need to install a script and then the power and reset buttons will function like the real thing.  The eject switch makes the top circular area pop-up and there's a tiny bit of space to store stuff like SD cards.

(https://i.imgur.com/gIoIFE4.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/oG9P3CH.jpg)

:lawd

Left the fan out for now- my heat sink is too big for it!  :lol  The case came with a smaller little heat sink to switch it out, but I don't have any thermal paste at the moment and it didn't have any sticky shit on the other side.  Maybe later I'll throw it in there.

The extra two USB inputs/ethernet are also still available for use- the back right side of the case can come off for access.
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rufus on March 02, 2019, 08:34:08 AM
What's the M30 like?
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on March 02, 2019, 06:06:33 PM
What's the M30 like?

Works great!  It's about the same size as the original Genesis six button controller, so it might feel small (and very light- no rumble), but the d-pad is fantastic and the buttons are very responsive.  Tested it on the Switch with Street Fighter Anniversary Collection and had no problems doing moves in SF3: Third Strike and Super Turbo.  Felt just "right" with Sonic Mania.

Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 02, 2019, 08:31:44 PM
If I’m in Japan, what retro systems/games should I look out for?


PC-98
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 02, 2019, 11:56:10 PM
If I’m in Japan, what retro systems/games should I look out for?

See if you can find THIS fucker, I bet it's still there

(https://i.imgur.com/GMmQaEU.jpg)
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on March 03, 2019, 02:56:41 PM
If I’m in Japan, what retro systems/games should I look out for?

X68000, FM-Towns Marty, PC-98, an MSX2, Epoch Super Cassette Vision
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Positive Touch on March 03, 2019, 04:48:08 PM
If I’m in Japan, what retro systems/games should I look out for?


sega pico
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Yeti on March 03, 2019, 04:56:07 PM
Wonder Swan
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on March 03, 2019, 09:12:15 PM
Thanks for the suggestions, I’m going to be there in a few months, but if anything I’ll get a system that has some practical use.

Pc-98 is cool, but there’s not much I’d be able to do with it, same with the 8001, but it’d be cool to check out.

But there’s also lots of old indie gems out there that are relatively unknown iirc.

I’ll dig through the recommended systems at some point though, thanks!

Something else cool n' retro is stuff that looks different over there than here- Famicom, Super Famicom, PC-Engine, etc.  I bought a pristine Super Famicom for someone at work last time I was over there for under 5000 yen.

Dunno how stock is on some of this stuff, but there were also various models of PS2 and Vitas released in different colors as well. 
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on March 08, 2019, 08:49:33 AM
Have a TOTALLY STUDLY~! Friday

(http://hkfilm.net/pics/11/pitfighter.jpg)
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on March 11, 2019, 07:25:20 AM
A fan-made three-player Final Fight "30th Anniversary" mod is in development!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdMiM1AvE6Y
Title: Re: Modern Games Are Trash - Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on March 11, 2019, 08:49:48 AM
I’m impressed by enough recent games to take out “modern games are trash.”
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: HardcoreRetro on March 11, 2019, 01:20:26 PM
Yeah, Rape Day is a landmark title.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 11, 2019, 01:22:57 PM
Yeah, Rape Day is a landmark title.

Unfortunately, it got deplatformed by the SJWs at Valve.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on March 11, 2019, 05:38:33 PM
Makes so much sense- they don't have to put anyone over!
:heyman

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Warrior jobbing to Hogan at the end
:neogaf
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Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on March 12, 2019, 09:10:35 PM
https://twitter.com/nvmusa/status/1105535073305137152
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on March 13, 2019, 08:28:47 AM
A fan-made three-player Final Fight "30th Anniversary" mod is in development!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdMiM1AvE6Y

There's a Double Dragon mod with Hulk Hogan and Ultimate Warrior from Superstars instead of Billy and Jimmy

https://youtu.be/OmwwlMm2BT0

One of the many Streets of Rage 2 ROM hacks puts WWF guys in it.  It's pretty fun.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 13, 2019, 11:46:31 AM
Yiiikes Rise of the Dragon conversion is rough. Must be because they took those airbrushed backgrounds then converted to 256 color MCGA, then had to knock THOSE down to 64 colors of the Sega CD. Don't envy that job.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on March 13, 2019, 01:51:12 PM
What are some must play pc games that are available on gog and steam? Doesn't matter the genre. I've never played Icewind Dale 1 and 2. How are they and how do they compare to BG?
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 13, 2019, 05:46:34 PM
Icewind Dale games are more combat-focused than quest-focused like BG. As for PC games you need to play:

-Ultima 7 & 8
-Wizardry 7 & 8
-Deus Ex
-Neverwinter Nights: Enhanced Edition
-Neverwinter Night 2: Complete
-Anachronox
-Planescape: Torment
-Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura
-System Shock 2
-Underrail
-Legend of Grimrock 1 & 2
-Septerra Core
-King's Bounty: The Legend
-Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines
-Star Wars: Tie Fighter
-Giants: Citizen Kabuto
-Cannon Fodder
-Curse of Monkey Island
-realMyst: Masterpiece Edition
-Quest for Glory 1-5
-The Longest Journey
-The Dig
-Sam & Max: Hit the Road
-King's Quest Collection
-Space Quest Collection
-Starship Titanic
-Normality
-Little Big Adventure
-Another World
-Flashback
-Bad Mojo
-Realms of the Haunting
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on March 13, 2019, 05:51:42 PM
Games on that list I’ve played:

- Ultima VII
- planescape
- system shock 2
- vamp bloodlines tm
- curse of monkey island (still waiting for hd port)
- the longest journey
- Sam and max hit the road
- another world
- flashback
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rufus on March 13, 2019, 06:41:56 PM
Icewind Dale games are more combat-focused than quest-focused like BG. As for PC games you need to play:

(snip)
Some objections:

Skip Neverwinter Nights' main campaign. It's boring and takes forever. Just read a synopsis, then jump into expansions.

Neverwinter Nights 2's main campaign is slow to start and quite forgettable, so I suggest you read a synopsis here as well and jump straight into Mask of the Betrayer.

Septerra Core has boooring combat and way too much of it.

Little Big Adventure controls horribly.

Watch Supergreatfriend's LP of Realms of the Haunting instead of playing it yourself.

Don't maul me, Rumbro. (http://i.imgur.com/G36Lf41.png)

Adding:
Thief series (2>1, 3 optional, reboot maybe?)
Gothic (2>1, 3 is a mess and optional, 4 is a sham)
Knights of the Old Republic 2 (only with fan patch)
Doom/s (including 3, which is a fine game)
FTL
Fallout (F2 optional, because bloated and meandering)
Quake (main quest, then Arcane Dimensions fan map pack)
Grim Fandango (remaster)
Sid Meier's Pirates! (the most recent version)
Full Throttle (remaster; very short, start with this maybe?)
Crysis (until it goes linear)
STALKER Shadow of Chernobyl (and/or Call of Pripyat)
MDK
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on March 13, 2019, 06:46:02 PM
Already played Thief games
Grim Fandango is one of my faves
Kotor 2
Fallout
Full throttle
mdk

Also no offense but you historically have no patience for slow burn games but I love a slow burn so :yeshrug
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rufus on March 13, 2019, 06:49:58 PM
I don't mind the slow burn when it actually culminates into something. Neither Neverwinter's main campaigns do. :larry

Don't say I didn't warn you. :bolo
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 13, 2019, 07:48:09 PM
Don't maul me, Rumbro. (http://i.imgur.com/G36Lf41.png)

:bolo
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Shuri on March 13, 2019, 08:48:16 PM
I finally got to play Knuckles Chaotix on the 32x. What an underwhelming experience.. The 32x-enhanced effects are really cool but the gameplay is super convulted and bizzare.  It feels like a kludge of different concepts all mashed together. I'm really not feeling it at all. Everything seems to be able the chaining concept and.. uh thats it? You get to choose who your partner is and they seem to have all sorts of different skills,

Maybe it gets better later in the game but it's quite a letdown. Damn. It looked so interesting back in the days.

edit: I was expecting a sonic style platformer, but I got a strange The Lost Viking style puzzle with Knuckles and his furry bait friends

Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on March 13, 2019, 09:09:10 PM
Knuckles Chaotix was crap, yeah.  Why it couldn't have been just a straight Sonic platformer with the extra 32X effects and stuff is beyond me.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on March 14, 2019, 05:44:17 AM
Is the combat good in IWD?
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on March 14, 2019, 09:54:36 AM
How’s the crawling and resource management? Those are separate from combat but only slightly.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on March 15, 2019, 03:53:34 PM
Hey, this is kinda neat.  Might try this with an older laptop.  Easy way to make a good emu/streaming box!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgKFBgcyyAo
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rufus on March 16, 2019, 01:38:50 PM
Recent re-releases work out of the box.

https://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Knights_of_the_Old_Republic
https://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Knights_of_the_Old_Republic_II_-_The_Sith_Lords
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Chooky on March 16, 2019, 05:10:47 PM
I finally got to play Knuckles Chaotix on the 32x. What an underwhelming experience.. The 32x-enhanced effects are really cool but the gameplay is super convulted and bizzare.  It feels like a kludge of different concepts all mashed together. I'm really not feeling it at all. Everything seems to be able the chaining concept and.. uh thats it? You get to choose who your partner is and they seem to have all sorts of different skills,

Maybe it gets better later in the game but it's quite a letdown. Damn. It looked so interesting back in the days.

edit: I was expecting a sonic style platformer, but I got a strange The Lost Viking style puzzle with Knuckles and his furry bait friends

the game feels to me like someone opened a Sonic level editor and slapped shit around at random. half-pipes, loop the loops, and floating platforms all over the place with no sense of progression. add to that the way you play levels in a random order (why?) and that you can get stuck with troll partners for entire levels (WHY??) and you end up with an extremely unenjoyable and forgettable game.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rufus on March 16, 2019, 09:29:05 PM
What about ones on freer websites :doge
:lol
Whatever is still available right now will probably be on the most recent version already. Gotta compare version numbers, I guess. Steamdb and Gogdb will help with that.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on May 07, 2019, 10:18:20 AM
Sold two of the rare older Saturn titles I've had sitting around and decided to use the money to buy an Alpha-Cade bartop unit.

(https://cdn3.volusion.com/3yrpn.4qr39/v/vspfiles/photos/RM-XT-ALPHA-BARTOP-E-1.jpg?1530876469)

These guys are local, so I can save on shipping and will go drive down to pick it up when it's ready.  Saves $70 on shipping, which is good because I may need to buy another TV to use with it, and the recommended model is $60 at Best Buy.

Will probably put my RetroPie inside for now, but I do have an older, mostly unused ASUS Windows 8 tablet lying around that also might be perfect for this, assuming it will fit inside.  What's nice about these units is that the back allows for easy access, so I should also be able to hook my laptop up to it if I want to try some modern arcade gaming for stuff like SFV, SC6, DOA6, MK11, etc. 
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on May 07, 2019, 10:37:00 AM
xpost

Anyways, if anyone is interested in retro game creation / demaking, here's a project that piqued my interest:

https://www.gbstudio.dev

It's a visual editor like Contstruct / RPG Maker, but for GameBoy ROMs -- ones you can write to a cart and play on real hardware. 🤩
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Occam on May 07, 2019, 04:32:10 PM
Sold two of the rare older Saturn titles I've had sitting around

Which ones?
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on May 07, 2019, 09:34:17 PM
Went down to the RecRoom Masters shop to pick up the cab after work.  Was kind of surreal- the entrance was lined up with old (restored?) cabs from the 80s and then some of their own units.  Nothing was on though (not even the lights, lol).  The dude there was super-hyped and excitedly pointed out that they were in the process of putting together a replica Konami X-Men cab for someone.  There was a giant side decal being printed out.  Pretty cool!  And then they proceeded to give me the wrong size cab, which would have been a loss for them since it was a bigger unit, lol.  The boss came out and got me the right one, then proceeded to tell me how he had to fire someone earlier for constantly shipping out the wrong cabs to people.  Glad I drove out there now.

Sold two of the rare older Saturn titles I've had sitting around

Which ones?

Sega Ages and Elevator Action Returns.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Occam on May 08, 2019, 10:57:05 AM
Unless you want them for collecting purposes, I suppose it makes sense to sell arcade ports that can be emulated perfectly. Elevator Action Returns was one of the last Saturn games I bought, after I had pretty much everything else I wanted (never got Sega Ages).

Crazy how expensive Saturn (and most other retro) games are now.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Occam on May 08, 2019, 01:41:07 PM
Oh come on, you seriously have never heard of Elevator Action (Taito arcade game, 1983)?

I think we need a school of video games that teaches the history of the genre.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: chronovore on May 08, 2019, 09:28:44 PM
Please elevate your empathy for people born after the early 1970s  :(

You are in the retro game thread.

Git gud.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on May 08, 2019, 10:21:40 PM
Even I knew about Elevator Action... but I did watch G4 back in the day. Icons used to be good for this shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xO2siRQTfU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgKhWAf3Wfw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmLJB66Vgpo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS1Zw17Tuqs
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: benjipwns on May 08, 2019, 11:14:17 PM
ya Icons pretty good show

I remember when they cancelled it and then brought it back, only like instead of games it was about the Suicide Girls and Kevin Smith and Mark Ecko lol
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on May 08, 2019, 11:21:21 PM
Yeah, and then they brought back the original format as "Game Makers" before cancelling *that* after like four episodes. :lol
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on May 09, 2019, 09:31:09 AM
Unless you want them for collecting purposes, I suppose it makes sense to sell arcade ports that can be emulated perfectly. Elevator Action Returns was one of the last Saturn games I bought, after I had pretty much everything else I wanted (never got Sega Ages).

Crazy how expensive Saturn (and most other retro) games are now.

Both of those games were bought on release back in the 90s!  Elevator Action Returns can also be found on one of the Taito PS2 collections, which I have, so I still have a copy in my game collection anyway.  I didn't think it would sell for so much, but I guess everything is "rare" these days.  Still can't get over Street Fighter Zero 3 selling for hundreds of dollars now.  Like...WUT.  :lol

I genuinely hope this is a game about elevators and elevator operators.

 :hhh :jeanluc :samoa

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Square-Enix used to have this awesome little browser game called "Elebest" that WAS about shuffling crowds of people on elevators. :lol  It's long gone now and I can't really find anything on it.  :-\
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Even I knew about Elevator Action... but I did watch G4 back in the day. Icons used to be good for this shit.

The original got ported to just about everything back in the day.  At least up through the NES and Gameboy.

Returns was a more 'modern' take on it for the time.  Kinda like Elevator Action crossed with Rolling Thunder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgjG2uGQ9Tw

Returns only got ported to the Saturn (and only in Japan) back then, so I think a lot of people missed it.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on May 09, 2019, 09:47:25 AM
Got the Alpha-Cade built last night!

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40844248383_b4c616ec19_o.jpg)

Was overall pretty easy to put together- if you can build IKEA furniture, you can do this.  Found that the TV I wanted to use wouldn't work, so went out to Best Buy to get their recommended Insignia TV for $60.  It's got much louder speakers than my old 19" TV, so probably worked out for the best. 

The only issue was getting the left side panel on after everything else was slotted in- I think the plexiglass might not have been initially slotted in right or something, but got it all fit together and then noticed that the TV was tilted inside.  :lol  Had to take it all apart again and found that it had moved slightly after I mounted it to the board inside the cab.  Fortunately it was easier to put it back together the second time and then it was ready to go!  You end up with an HDMI cable and a USB cable sticking out of the back, so it's easy to hook whatever you want up.  Using my Retropie Mega Drive right now and plan to either buy another Pie just for this unit or a cheap PC.  I'm more about just using this for arcade retro gaming, though, at least for now.

Now I need to work on fixing/replacing some of the romsets and see about getting a slicker UI- I want to use the ones that fill in the sides with simulated cabinet panels or artwork.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on May 09, 2019, 05:22:22 PM
Elevator Action Returns is an awesome game, luckily it's available in the PS2 Taito Legends 2 compilation if you don't want to spend a shitload on the Saturn version.

Ninja Five 0 is another expensive af action game that gives me serious Elevator Action Returns x Shinobi x Bionic Commando vibes.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on May 09, 2019, 08:32:42 PM
Ninja Five 0 is another expensive af action game that gives me serious Elevator Action Returns x Shinobi x Bionic Commando vibes.

Had that one and sold it off a couple of years ago, too!  Helped fund my new PC purchase at the time. 
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on May 09, 2019, 09:55:19 PM
The Retropie started overheating, so I went to install a fan in the case- forgot that with this particular case, you need to make sure to remove the micro SD card before taking the top off and it snapped in two.  :lol  Fortunately that's all that broke, so will get another one tomorrow, re-flash it, and get back to it.  Decided to go ahead and order another Pie and case that I'm going to use specifically for the cab so I can go back to using the other one for console emulation on my TV.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Oblivion on May 10, 2019, 04:38:00 AM
Oh man, Icons and Game Makers brings me back. G4 was a garbage channel, but it was only garbage cause the good stuff they made had terrible ratings.

Also, too. Bork, where is your avatar from?
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on May 10, 2019, 04:44:11 AM
Elevator Action and its sequel, Returns, are some of my favorites.

Ninja Five-O is good too. SE did a sort of Elevator Action "reboot/remake" for ps3 and I remember it sucking.

https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/elevator-action-deluxe

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-B07iZ-Ph1Lo/WXnsSfsg6CI/AAAAAAAADmg/hnHxDe-_JdAIhlsfqpz_OLF78OU2nhQjACLcBGAs/s640/Elevator%2BAction%2BDeluxe1.jpg)

Unfortunately SE owns Taito now and the only Taito property they want anything to do with is Space Invaders so we are shit out of luck. I keep waiting for someone to make a Spelunky take on Elevator Action and no dice.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on May 10, 2019, 07:12:42 AM
LOL, I think I purposefully forgot about that EA PS3 game.  :lol

Oh man, Icons and Game Makers brings me back. G4 was a garbage channel, but it was only garbage cause the good stuff they made had terrible ratings.

Also, too. Bork, where is your avatar from?

One of the reveal trailers for Streets Of Rage 4.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on May 10, 2019, 08:42:37 AM
Elevator Action and its sequel, Returns, are some of my favorites.

Ninja Five-O is good too. SE did a sort of Elevator Action "reboot/remake" for ps3 and I remember it sucking.

https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/elevator-action-deluxe

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-B07iZ-Ph1Lo/WXnsSfsg6CI/AAAAAAAADmg/hnHxDe-_JdAIhlsfqpz_OLF78OU2nhQjACLcBGAs/s640/Elevator%2BAction%2BDeluxe1.jpg)

Unfortunately SE owns Taito now and the only Taito property they want anything to do with is Space Invaders so we are shit out of luck. I keep waiting for someone to make a Spelunky take on Elevator Action and no dice.

At least Elevator Action got put out on Arcade Archives.  They need to at least do that with Rastan.  Best soundtrack ever.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on May 10, 2019, 08:44:16 AM
Elevator Action and its sequel, Returns, are some of my favorites.

Ninja Five-O is good too. SE did a sort of Elevator Action "reboot/remake" for ps3 and I remember it sucking.

https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/elevator-action-deluxe

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-B07iZ-Ph1Lo/WXnsSfsg6CI/AAAAAAAADmg/hnHxDe-_JdAIhlsfqpz_OLF78OU2nhQjACLcBGAs/s640/Elevator%2BAction%2BDeluxe1.jpg)

Unfortunately SE owns Taito now and the only Taito property they want anything to do with is Space Invaders so we are shit out of luck. I keep waiting for someone to make a Spelunky take on Elevator Action and no dice.

At least Elevator Action got put out on Arcade Archives.  They need to at least do that with Rastan.  Best soundtrack ever.
YES.  And YES.   I still listen to it's whopping 3-4 tracks to this day; both the Arcade and SMS versions.  Fucking love it!! 
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on May 11, 2019, 12:07:02 AM
Crappy video of it running!
https://twitter.com/lyteedge/status/1127061876842618880
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on May 11, 2019, 05:08:00 AM
Yo Rastan is the SHIT
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on May 13, 2019, 08:26:23 AM
I just learned not too long ago that there was a Rastan 3.  More of a beat em up ala Golden Axe than the other games.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on May 13, 2019, 08:37:41 AM
Retro Gaming today:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6TfjxIU8AAjzzD.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on May 13, 2019, 09:20:12 AM
I just learned not too long ago that there was a Rastan 3.  More of a beat em up ala Golden Axe than the other games.
I tried it out not too long ago when my son was going through a fantasy, sword fighting, beat'em up phase.  Wish I knew about it back then.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on May 13, 2019, 09:51:57 AM
Speaking of the Raspberry Pi, I put together Retropie #2 with a cool little 'layered' case over the weekend:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47051639844_4aa807cc95.jpg)

The case was $15 and came with a power cable and fan.  Not too shabby and looks really well-ventilated.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on May 13, 2019, 11:23:29 AM
Retro Gaming today:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6TfjxIU8AAjzzD.jpg:large)

Original hardware or FPGAs or bust
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on May 13, 2019, 01:18:07 PM

Original hardware or FPGAs or bust

FPGA...like MISTer?  Gamesack showed that in their latest video, and it didn't seem all that great.  At least, not yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dibLXWdX5-M
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on May 13, 2019, 01:47:29 PM

Original hardware or FPGAs or bust

FPGA...like MISTer?  Gamesack showed that in their latest video, and it didn't seem all that great.  At least, not yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dibLXWdX5-M

Yeah, looks like wayyy too much work for something that's not even close to being 100% accurate emulation. Also I hate how a lot of these diy type projects have to be so user unfriendly and have such a clunky UI.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on May 13, 2019, 10:32:29 PM
Glad Game Sack did that video -- I was wondering how user-friendly/early things were (and it looks like "not very" and "extremely"). Will probably hold off for another year whilst I perfect my RGB Pi collection.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on May 13, 2019, 11:14:36 PM

Original hardware or FPGAs or bust

FPGA...like MISTer?  Gamesack showed that in their latest video, and it didn't seem all that great.  At least, not yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dibLXWdX5-M

FGPAs like Analogue Nt.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on June 03, 2019, 10:40:35 PM
https://twitter.com/goegoezzz/status/1135669129229111296
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 08, 2019, 03:45:28 AM
So somehow I missed a ton of the Nintendo DS shit back when it first came out, and after buying a DSi XL on a whim for $23 at 11pm in Kyoto, I'm going to make the statement that the DS is basically PSone.5, I'm not sure.

You've got:
-- Rippin pixel art games
-- Bad 3D so you gotta know what you're doing if you're going down that route
-- "Sure, why not" attitude in regards to publishing whatever fucking weird shit people wanted to make back then

Boritos suggest me obscure DS shit, I know it's out there

Also I've never played Chrono Trigger but I think now is the time
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: archnemesis on June 08, 2019, 08:40:09 AM
Chrono Trigger holds up incredibly well and it is never too late to play it.

Here are a few uncommon DS games that I own and enjoy:
999: Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors: the only visual novel that I've appreciated and it has a handful of clever puzzles.
- The Dark Spire: first-person dungeon crawler inspired by classics like Wizardry and The Bard's Tale
- Diamond Trust of London: by Jason Rohrer. Turn-based strategy about extracting diamonds from Africa.
- Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime: The best Dragon Quest spin-off.
- Inazuma Eleven: Fantastic football RPG, if you can look past the shōnen manga story.
- Infinite Space: Great space RPG.
- Korg DS-10 Plus Synthesizer: Fun to play around with for a while.
- Retro Game Challenge: A collection of fake retro games.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: paprikastaude on June 08, 2019, 09:31:53 AM
Ninja Gaiden DS, SMT Strange Journey, Radiant Historia, Contra 4, Hotel Dusk, Dragonball Origins, Ghost Trick, Space Invaders Extreme, Solatorobo, Kirby Mass Attack, Mario & Luigi 3, Rune Factory, a thousand SRPGs if you are into that.

it really is the ps1 spiritual successor and the last great Nintendo library - despite Nintendo's output being subpar, ironically.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Chooky on June 08, 2019, 09:43:49 AM
metroid prime pinball is pretty cool
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on June 09, 2019, 11:13:00 AM
Gamesack put up another "Left in Japan" video and one game featured was Kyuutenkai: Fantasic Pinball.  Never heard of this before- it's a fantasy-themed pinball game made by Technosoft/Tecno Soft and released in 1995.  They ported Devil's Crush to the Genesis and this appears to be similarly-themed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpQltjzt1Tw

The Saturn version sells for ridiculous prices, but the PS1 version is pretty cheap.  Ordered a copy for $24.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on June 09, 2019, 11:32:00 AM
Heh yeah I'm about to order a copy based on that video. Game is totally up my alley!
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 09, 2019, 11:34:53 AM


Boritos suggest me obscure DS shit, I know it's out there

Contact
Henry Hatsworth in the Puzzling Adventure
Monster Tale
Aliens: Infestation
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on June 09, 2019, 11:47:13 AM
Heh yeah I'm about to order a copy based on that video. Game is totally up my alley!

Worth getting now in case PS1 prices start going up because of that Game Sack video.  :doge
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on June 09, 2019, 12:14:14 PM


Boritos suggest me obscure DS shit, I know it's out there

Contact
Henry Hatsworth in the Puzzling Adventure
Monster Tale
Aliens: Infestation

Contact is a bad game though
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on June 09, 2019, 12:30:12 PM
So somehow I missed a ton of the Nintendo DS shit back when it first came out, and after buying a DSi XL on a whim for $23 at 11pm in Kyoto, I'm going to make the statement that the DS is basically PSone.5, I'm not sure.

You've got:
-- Rippin pixel art games
-- Bad 3D so you gotta know what you're doing if you're going down that route
-- "Sure, why not" attitude in regards to publishing whatever fucking weird shit people wanted to make back then

Boritos suggest me obscure DS shit, I know it's out there

Also I've never played Chrono Trigger but I think now is the time

Depends on what you count as obscure. But since you’re new to the system....

Looking through my DS collection.

Obscure DS games:

- dragonball origins games. There’s two of em and you use the stylus. It’s obscure in the sense that no one would expect anything good out of a dragon ball game and yet here they are with two of the funnest on the system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEPFs7effe8

- Henry hatsworth like retro suggested

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic1Fvexrfcw

- Bangai-o spirits. MUST PLAY, must play, mUsT PlaYYYyyhy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsLVKKillYs

- Illustlogic. Jp import and some of the best Picross ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PWJ1bhAnZk

- Korg DS-10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CSa00ydQvg

- Might & Magic: Clash of Heroes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXgM4VVgtiU

- Ghost Trick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OxMfwK7XKM

- the entire Ouendan series including Elite Beat Agents

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_Z85RIYYRA

- rocket slime and sequels

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUpX3qxvaag

- meteos. Back when this came out it was about Meteos on DS vs Lumines on psp during the handheld wars. Great, inventive puzzle game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcubfhPoDEg

- gta Chinatown Wars

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQwqCsAtK4s

- Dementium. Horror on your DS. Fantastic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1ZicVoaTnM

- Moon. From the same folks who made Dementium. Sci fi horror.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4GnpGZT9vE

- ninja Gaiden ds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbwuQDPwOWo

- retro game challenge line of games. Some are jp exclusive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akIvyJS0pbU

- Electroplankton

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqeNAgKmORU

- megaman zx 1 and 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xojCB10BPi4

One rule of DS suggestions is if someone suggests Hotel Dusk, don’t listen to them. It’s shit.

Also Nintendo DS is probably my third favorite system and my overall favorite Nintendo system. It didn’t look good but boy it had bangers.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on June 09, 2019, 01:17:31 PM
Eh. Forgot about Okamiden, a sequel to Okami.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBhjr8s_J-M

Oh, and you can't miss Trauma Center. Again, not sure how "obscure" this is to you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtRz8U0iaNY
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on June 09, 2019, 01:30:34 PM
DS games I'd check out:

Blue Dragon Plus - The actual sequel to Blue Dragon. Now in SRPG format
Blue Dragon Awakened Shadow - Not actually a sequel, now in ARPG format
Castlevanias - Duh
Chrono Trigger - Duh
Contact - Cool Earthbound-y vibes
Dragon Quests - Duh
Etrian Odysseys - If only for the Yuzo music
Final Fantasy Revenant Wings - The actual sequel to FF12, now in SRPG format
Ghost Trick - Good puzzle solving from PHoenix Wright guys
Fire Emblems - Fire Emblem
Kirby games - Kirby
Lufia: Curse of the Sinistrals - A reimagining of Lufia 2, just not as good. Now in ARPG format
Lunar Knights - A kinda-sequel to Boktai, without needing to go outside
Mario & Luigi games - If you can't be fucked ot play the watered down 3DS versions
Phoenix Wright - If you can't be fucked to play it on any otherplatform
Pokemon - Pokemon games
Picross DS - Picross rules and gets you pussy
Polarium - Also cool puzzler
Professor Layton - You'll look up the answers anyway
Retro Game Challenge - Uh hello - also the translated sequel
SMT Strange Journey - If you can't be fucked to play the 3DS version
Mario 64 - REally good port
Tetris DS - Tetris
Legend of Zelda - Can't go wrong
World Ends With You - If you can't be fucked to play the Switch version
Trauma Center - Its like weeb operation
Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume - Valkyrie Profile, now in SRPG format
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on June 09, 2019, 01:42:58 PM
Problem with some ds game suggestions is that many of the more iconic ones like Ace Attorney, or the more under the radar ones like Radiant Historia and SMT Strange Journey have been ported to other systems by now.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on June 09, 2019, 01:46:13 PM
But he's on DS so we are listing DS games
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 10, 2019, 05:08:32 PM
Holy shit guys

Seriously thank you for the lists, there is a TON of stuff that registered on my radar back in the day but I didn't pick up, since I was living in Japan and the prices of import DS games were hella jacked. Like, I just clean forgot about a ton of this stuff or never knew it existed (THERE IS A FUCKING BANGAIO GAME ON DS!?) I'm gonna be busy for a loooong time.

Fun fact: I'm the voice of Rocket Slime in the English versions. Took the bullet train down to Kyoto and recorded in a meeting room somewhere.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Chooky on June 10, 2019, 05:23:28 PM
Fun fact: I'm the voice of Rocket Slime in the English versions.

WHAT?!?!?
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 10, 2019, 06:11:08 PM
Fun fact: I'm the voice of Rocket Slime in the English versions.

WHAT?!?!?

I was working at Square back in the day. Used to do a ton of pickup recording; I think I'm in Unlimited Saga somewhere, and I'm the ring announcer in All-Star Pro Wrestling II. Also wrote and performed a pitch-bended rap for Yosumin. I might have sung a commercial spot for something in Front Mission, but it was way out of my range and I don't think auto-tune could have saved it. Ahhh good times.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on June 10, 2019, 06:27:56 PM
tbh I wasn't that into the Bangai-O on the DS... it felt more like a puzzle game with a level editor, instead of a more arcadey action game. Couldn't get into it the way I did the N64 and DC versions.

Also another DS game I hardly ever hear mentioned is Avalon Code. I call it the "Volleyball RPG", since you juggle enemies higher and higher during battle to do more damage to them. It's by Matrix Software (the Alundra, FF DS remakes devs) and has a system where you alter the properties of enemies/items/etc by rearranging their "DNA". Not the best game and the interface leaves a lot to be desired, but it's unique enough that it's worth trying.

Covenant of the Plume is a must play SRPG, for fans of the VP series. Very dark storyline with a cool gimmick, wherein you sacrifice your troops to gain more powerful abilities, with multiple routes through the game dependent on how many you sacrifice.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on June 10, 2019, 06:32:48 PM
Disagree. Bangai-o spirits is very arcade-y. It’s got dozens and dozens of levels to play and solve. It’s like Wario ware meets Bangai-o. Imo it’s probably the best DS game. It’s incredible.

Another hidden gem is Away: Shuffle Dungeon. It’s from Mistwalker and has an interesting gimmick.

Although not on par with the original Final Fantasy Tactics, Tactics Advance 2 is nothing short of legit and a great strategy game.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on June 10, 2019, 06:41:54 PM
More hidden gems you have to dig deeper. Like imports. Things like Saga 2 remake, Soma Bringer, 7th Dragon, Knights in the Nightmare (which I have yet to get to myself but I read good things).
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on June 12, 2019, 08:51:36 AM
The Trials of Mana ROM was ripped from the Collection, it's a fully working SNES ROM that works on emulators and real hardware.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on June 17, 2019, 02:52:37 PM
https://twitter.com/SmokeMonsterTWI/status/1140675409593323520
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/000/283/gaijin4koma2_peersblog_1200684608.jpg)


https://twitter.com/Nukleon/status/1140683472144687104
(http://media.ign.com/games/image/article/738/738102/gaijin4koma_peersblog_1200684654.jpg)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 17, 2019, 05:01:50 PM
This is really cool, but...$250, man.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on June 17, 2019, 08:57:43 PM
This is really cool, but...$250, man.

Yeah.  Hardware modification is also needed for it work on a Nomad and you need a 32X for 32X games.  Won't work on clone systems or emulation-based systems like the Mega SG, either.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 17, 2019, 10:24:47 PM
https://twitter.com/SmokeMonsterTWI/status/1140675409593323520
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/000/283/gaijin4koma2_peersblog_1200684608.jpg)


https://twitter.com/Nukleon/status/1140683472144687104
(http://media.ign.com/games/image/article/738/738102/gaijin4koma_peersblog_1200684654.jpg)

According to the info I read, it draws less power than the Virtua Racing cart.

Edit: That's what they say, anyway.
https://twitter.com/terraonion/status/1140790190409170950
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Shuri on June 19, 2019, 09:28:13 AM
Ordered one.

I also received my Triple Bypass modded model 2 genesis and it’s fucking amazing. The audio is fuckawesome now and the visual  improvements are legit.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on June 19, 2019, 04:09:02 PM
Gamesack put up another "Left in Japan" video and one game featured was Kyuutenkai: Fantasic Pinball.  Never heard of this before- it's a fantasy-themed pinball game made by Technosoft/Tecno Soft and released in 1995.  They ported Devil's Crush to the Genesis and this appears to be similarly-themed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpQltjzt1Tw

The Saturn version sells for ridiculous prices, but the PS1 version is pretty cheap.  Ordered a copy for $24.

Never got the copy I bought on eBay.  Ordered another copy I found from a German seller for $30-something and that just arrived- disc in good shape and manual pretty good as described.  Case is fucked up- it looks like this came in one of the older PS1-specfic "fat" cases and somebody cut up the inserts in the front and back to fit in a regular jewel case.  They even glued the spine to the side of the back part.  Yuck.  :yuck 

Going to keep this copy though because I can't find any others for sale- or rather, there are other ones listed, but I noticed something kinda fucked-up.  All of them are using the same photo despite being from different sellers.   :lol   Amazon and Buyee also had the same photo up for listings from different sellers. 

If you check these sellers, they're all selling the same stuff for varying prices and the seller ratings have started to fall over the last 12 months.  Somebody is having some fun pretending to be different storefronts all over the place.  Sounds exhausting.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on June 19, 2019, 05:34:02 PM
Ripped the game.  It doesn't work on PS1 emulators.
:neogaf

You just get a black screen after selecting memory card options.  Gonna try it on the PS Classic after I do the hacking thang.  Guess if that doesn't work I'll have a reason to hook up the PS2 again.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 23, 2019, 01:35:41 PM
I've been stuck in retro mode for the last month and the latency has fucking RUINED modern shit for me.

I turned on my PS4 last night to try Sonic Mania and the delay between when I press a button and when something happens on the screen made me furious. Check it out, I'm now officially a cranky old man (goes back to Castlevania on DS with its 7ms latency)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on June 23, 2019, 03:50:51 PM
nothing beats an original
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on June 24, 2019, 01:46:16 PM
nothing beats an original

bork/Pi-ers annihilated :nintendo
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on June 24, 2019, 02:58:20 PM
If you guys are talking about that pinball game...I didn't try it on the Pie when I made that post.   :P  Used some Windows emus.  Had no idea that a handful of PS1 games don't work right.

Raspberry Pi 4 just got released
:phil
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rufus on June 24, 2019, 03:12:02 PM
Did you try Mednafen (or Beetle-PSX, as it's known in Retroarch)?
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 25, 2019, 12:46:57 AM
Hey you holier-than-thou ding-dongs, I don't care if you play it on a Pi or the original hardware or your mom's butthole, all that matters is that you're playing old games because old games are better and don't try to fuck you

I just beat Portrait of Ruin and now I'm doing my first playthrough of Chrono Trigger, cool guy comin thru
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on June 25, 2019, 01:17:02 AM
wow you're on your way to be the next hot retro youtuber. can't wait for your review.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 25, 2019, 02:30:45 AM
Hi everyone I'm sho nuff, I'm old and live in a big house full of CRTs because they fill the hole of my missing wife and children, dont forget to like and subscribe, now let's talk about Saturn games
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Occam on June 25, 2019, 08:06:24 AM
I've been stuck in retro mode for the last month and the latency has fucking RUINED modern shit for me.

I turned on my PS4 last night to try Sonic Mania and the delay between when I press a button and when something happens on the screen made me furious. Check it out, I'm now officially a cranky old man (goes back to Castlevania on DS with its 7ms latency)

I too hate input lag. Haven't played Sonic Mania, but are you sure it's not caused by your TV? Does it have a game mode and are you using it? I recently switched hdmi inputs on my TV, forgot to turn on game mode before starting to play Ritual of the Night and was really disappointed by the lag; then I realized game mode was off and the game was actually fine.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on June 25, 2019, 11:03:31 AM
Hi everyone I'm sho nuff, I'm old and live in a big house full of CRTs because they fill the hole of my missing wife and children, dont forget to like and subscribe, now let's talk about Saturn games

Pix of your setup?
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 25, 2019, 11:21:43 AM
Hi everyone I'm sho nuff, I'm old and live in a big house full of CRTs because they fill the hole of my missing wife and children, dont forget to like and subscribe, now let's talk about Saturn games

Pix of your setup?

If pledge $5 or more to his patreon, you can get access to a POV walk-through of his collection.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on June 25, 2019, 11:41:55 AM
Did you try Mednafen (or Beetle-PSX, as it's known in Retroarch)?

Nah, does that tend to work better?

Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on June 25, 2019, 11:46:00 AM
Hi everyone I'm sho nuff, I'm old and live in a big house full of CRTs because they fill the hole of my missing wife and children, dont forget to like and subscribe, now let's talk about Saturn games

Pix of your setup?

(https://allgreenrecycling.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/CRT-TV.png)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rufus on June 25, 2019, 11:53:07 AM
Nah, does that tend to work better?
Extremely accurate emulation. If it can't run it, I don't know what would.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 25, 2019, 03:09:54 PM
(http://i64.tinypic.com/35iwtjk.jpg)

I'm moving some things around so I brought all my stuff to work. The left Philips is a HDTV CRT which weighs far too much (that's my coworker's, mostly for Bemani games). Commodore monitor I'd be happy to give to anyone local in Seattle; we made a custom Svideo cable for it. The Sony is a BVM capable of 1080i and is the single greatest television I have ever seen in my life and it's my main display. Panasonic PVM is big, bright, and beautiful. Sony at the bottom is one of the last CRT monitors they did and is god-tier but I might have to give this to someone as it weighs waaaaaaaaaaay too much and takes up too much space.

Also in that picture: Virtua Fighter 3 arcade board and Apple //e
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on June 25, 2019, 03:51:32 PM
Wow that was my favorite scene in Steins;Gate
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 25, 2019, 07:31:27 PM
I'm moving to Japan in 3 months so if anyone in Seattle wants any of this shit PM me
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 25, 2019, 07:44:11 PM
(http://i64.tinypic.com/35iwtjk.jpg)

I'm moving some things around so I brought all my stuff to work. The left Philips is a HDTV CRT which weighs far too much (that's my coworker's, mostly for Bemani games). Commodore monitor I'd be happy to give to anyone local in Seattle; we made a custom Svideo cable for it. The Sony is a BVM capable of 1080i and is the single greatest television I have ever seen in my life and it's my main display. Panasonic PVM is big, bright, and beautiful. Sony at the bottom is one of the last CRT monitors they did and is god-tier but I might have to give this to someone as it weighs waaaaaaaaaaay too much and takes up too much space.

Also in that picture: Virtua Fighter 3 arcade board and Apple //e

That's beautiful, breh, like a work of art.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on June 26, 2019, 08:38:23 AM
https://twitter.com/goegoezzz/status/1143652746328805376
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on June 26, 2019, 09:13:46 AM
Probably one of the most underrated beat'em ups that ever existed.  Damn that game was fun!!!
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on June 29, 2019, 12:49:58 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64V7oetweZM
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 30, 2019, 03:20:19 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/2DZSGUf.jpg?1)

If anybody wants to re-litigate the 16-bit Console War, I'm ready. :punch
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on June 30, 2019, 03:43:33 PM
No discussion needed- Genesis has blast processing :smug
:snob
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 30, 2019, 07:07:43 PM
No discussion needed- Genesis has blast processing :smug
:snob

yeah good for blasting right into the toilet amirite
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: chronovore on July 03, 2019, 01:05:20 AM
I'm moving to Japan in 3 months so if anyone in Seattle wants any of this shit PM me
(https://media.giphy.com/media/WUq1cg9K7uzHa/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on July 03, 2019, 12:25:31 PM
No discussion needed- Genesis has blast processing :smug
:snob

yeah good for blasting right into the toilet amirite

I'm selling genuine Mega Drive toilet bathwater if you're interested.  Gonna go fast!
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 03, 2019, 12:35:32 PM
I'm fully adapting to the Everdrive lifestyle, brehs. It's so good.

Buying retro games  :nope
Buying real (or FPGA) consoles w/real controllers and then dumping the complete ROM set onto an SD card :ohyeah
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on July 03, 2019, 12:51:51 PM
Emulators :nope

FGPAs :ohyeah
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 04, 2019, 03:56:56 AM
Hooked up the Atari 2600 to see if it still works.

Pac Man Junior is hard. :(
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on July 04, 2019, 02:31:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i569jGYkDiU

holy fuck. i know it's old but still
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Occam on July 04, 2019, 03:13:47 PM
LOL at the guy saying you should factor in the price of genuine Sega CD games sold on ebay when considering the cost. "Piracy is clever, all games are free"
(By the way, a real Sega CD can boot CD-Rs, there is no copy protection.)
Anyway, nice product, but too expensive for my taste since I already have an Everdrive and a working Sega CD unit.
And since Sega CD support may be coming to Everdrive, I'm going to hold off for now.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on July 05, 2019, 08:49:36 PM
Sooo I've been playing Chrono Trigger on the DS and

WHY THE FUCK DID NOBODY LEARN FROM FUCKING CHRONO TRIGGER? Seriously there are so many QOL improvements to the JRPG genre in this game it makes me furious that nobody rolled with any of these, seriously what in the actual fuck, how just how

Best feature: WALKING AROUND WHILE PEOPLE ARE TALKING

Also here's an important question: Should I be playing it on my DS, or should I be playing the SNES version (I have access to both)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: paprikastaude on July 05, 2019, 08:53:03 PM
It's the same, except DS has some new hack-tier dungeon and a dumb ending anime cutscene from the PS1 version.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on July 05, 2019, 09:27:08 PM
Playing CT on a DS emu on my phone, one handed is quite sublime.  I just wish the game would keep my interest after a few hours.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on July 06, 2019, 03:31:16 AM
Sooo I've been playing Chrono Trigger on the DS and

WHY THE FUCK DID NOBODY LEARN FROM FUCKING CHRONO TRIGGER? Seriously there are so many QOL improvements to the JRPG genre in this game it makes me furious that nobody rolled with any of these, seriously what in the actual fuck, how just how

Best feature: WALKING AROUND WHILE PEOPLE ARE TALKING

Also here's an important question: Should I be playing it on my DS, or should I be playing the SNES version (I have access to both)

DS version is fine. People who moan about the extra content are dumb. Why would you hate more chrono trigger lmao
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: paprikastaude on July 06, 2019, 06:40:09 AM
the new ps1 ending sucks, iirc in the snes version
spoiler (click to show/hide)
frog doesn't get back to normal
[close]
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Chooky on July 06, 2019, 08:21:26 AM
the new ps1 ending sucks, iirc in the snes version
spoiler (click to show/hide)
frog doesn't get back to normal
[close]

wrong
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on July 08, 2019, 05:30:25 PM
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1148342646022139904
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Shuri on July 16, 2019, 12:42:16 PM
I've received my copy of the second print of Outrun on the Sega Saturn..

60 fps, 5x upscale on my ossc.. It's GLORIOUS :preach

Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on July 16, 2019, 12:59:14 PM
I've been browsing ebay for random games for giggles, and holy god some of the prices on this stuff.

Not the stuff that's clearly holy grails (or artificially inflated titles) but just random games you wouldn't think of.

Remember DrillDozer, the game nobody gave two shits about and was clearanced as low as $5?

Averages between $75-90 CIB (https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=drill+dozer+gba&_sacat=0&rt=nc&LH_Complete=1) on eBay - with Cart Only going as high as $50
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 16, 2019, 01:08:30 PM
Grabbed some PS2 games recently since I finally got my PS2 hooked up again:

(https://i.imgur.com/iMfVsqI.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on July 16, 2019, 01:11:06 PM
PS2 is a great library to dive into. Lots of one-off platformers that were only available on it. Also quite cheap to get into as well
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on July 16, 2019, 08:29:44 PM
Tokyo Xtreme Racer is so damn good!  :lawd
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on July 17, 2019, 08:39:04 AM
I spent a lot of time on that on Dreamcast.  I wish there was a version on modern consoles.  The closest would be doing the freeway races in Midnight Club LA.  I don't think I did more than 4 or 5 story missions in that game, I would just challenge randoms on the freeway.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on July 17, 2019, 12:02:19 PM
Looks like this is the last console game released- based on the Wangan Midnight manga series:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nCmQD10yNw

They had a mobile game in 2017 but it was shut down already.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on July 17, 2019, 12:03:36 PM
This is the first game in the series!  Didn't know it went back that far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_1t3sEFYlc
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on July 17, 2019, 12:22:02 PM
I've been browsing ebay for random games for giggles, and holy god some of the prices on this stuff.

Not the stuff that's clearly holy grails (or artificially inflated titles) but just random games you wouldn't think of.

Remember DrillDozer, the game nobody gave two shits about and was clearanced as low as $5?

Averages between $75-90 CIB (https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=drill+dozer+gba&_sacat=0&rt=nc&LH_Complete=1) on eBay - with Cart Only going as high as $50

So many new copies for sale, too- guess these are all from people who grabbed it cheap years ago.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 17, 2019, 05:08:32 PM
This is the first game in the series!  Didn't know it went back that far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_1t3sEFYlc

Several of the older games actually got American releases, too, though under different names.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on July 17, 2019, 05:32:45 PM
A new Tokyo Highway Battle game would whip so much ass, those games started going downhill once they added the official cars and made it "legal"
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 17, 2019, 05:40:07 PM
I think they were going through some money troubles during the mid-00s that they never really recovered from.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on July 17, 2019, 07:00:39 PM
Another awesome non-licensed driving game I put a stupid amount of hours in, was Peak Performance on PS1.  Man... That game kicked all sorts of ass back then. 
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on July 25, 2019, 08:48:24 AM
Got a good deal on a Japanese NeoGeo mini with 2 pads.  The stick on the unit and pads is analog, which I'm not thrilled about (hard to pull off moves in KOF for me) but otherwise it's pretty nice.  Not sure if I'm going to keep it at work as part of my mini arcade or bring it home since it has HDMI out.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on July 25, 2019, 12:02:26 PM
Got a good deal on a Japanese NeoGeo mini with 2 pads.  The stick on the unit and pads is analog, which I'm not thrilled about (hard to pull off moves in KOF for me) but otherwise it's pretty nice.  Not sure if I'm going to keep it at work as part of my mini arcade or bring it home since it has HDMI out.

Almost bought one when they were being dumped last week but passed.  Will probably get one when they hit $50 or so.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on July 26, 2019, 08:30:54 AM
For $50 it would be a good pick up, especially if you get 1 or 2 pads with it.

I played with it a bit more yesterday and had a good game in Garou and was able to pull off specials pretty easily with Terry using the little stick, I guess I must just suck at KOF.  The screen is really nice and it sounds good through headphones.  I still need to check out how well it works via HDMI on a TV.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Akala on July 26, 2019, 09:52:39 AM
I've been browsing ebay for random games for giggles, and holy god some of the prices on this stuff.

Not the stuff that's clearly holy grails (or artificially inflated titles) but just random games you wouldn't think of.

Remember DrillDozer, the game nobody gave two shits about and was clearanced as low as $5?

Averages between $75-90 CIB (https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=drill+dozer+gba&_sacat=0&rt=nc&LH_Complete=1) on eBay - with Cart Only going as high as $50

This is wild, I got it for super cheap. I didn't realize GBA carts were fetching a lot, I need to do an inventory as haven't touched in years.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: MMaRsu on July 26, 2019, 11:14:59 AM
I've been browsing ebay for random games for giggles, and holy god some of the prices on this stuff.

Not the stuff that's clearly holy grails (or artificially inflated titles) but just random games you wouldn't think of.

Remember DrillDozer, the game nobody gave two shits about and was clearanced as low as $5?

Averages between $75-90 CIB (https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=drill+dozer+gba&_sacat=0&rt=nc&LH_Complete=1) on eBay - with Cart Only going as high as $50

Yeah I know it sucks. The problem is youtube videos talking about GBA Hidden Gems such as MetalJesus and his videos..

I am also looking for this game, and also a bunch of other GBA games which are seemingly rare now :(

I did pick up some nice gba games Ill post it soon
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Shuri on August 21, 2019, 10:12:10 AM
I've received my TerraOnion MegaSD last week and I finally got around giving it a try as I'm recovering for surgery and I'm recovering my fucking senses at last.

It's a big buggy right now, some games like Snatcher have weird pauses where nothing happens for 2 minutes then the game resumes. I have no idea how this was not detected during QA but eeeh.. The team is working hard with numerous firmware updates. The unit itself is well built, I can't say I'm pleased with the fact that you cannot run SegaCD games if you have the 32x, due to various tech limitations from what I have seen on the forums.

I havent run into any issues with Sega Genesis stuff, you have save states, cheat supports, and also support for Virtua Racing Genny AND weird hacks like the super awesome (if you're a fan) of The Ultimate Mortal Kombat Trilogy hack, which is a super hack of UMK3 with the feature of being able to selection game specific version of each character of the MK Franchise, a custom soundtrack, 4 fatalities per character and its not super janky trash at all. It was made with care (tm)

.. The only drawback is that it's for the genesis version, which suffered compared to other ports, but so much work went into this hack. So being able to run this on real hardware is fucking cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRtsD3wDH9k


Loading games is pretty much instant, there's automatic region patching, options for in game reboots and in-game menu options that you can make pop-up holding Up and Start.

I don't know what else to add, the only problem is the price tag but I'd say it's worth it all things considered.


ALSO - damn a lot of segaCD stuff has aged horribly. I think the fact that i'm playing using an OSSC is REALLY making the segacd's fmv limitations glaring.

I also discovered this hilarious fucking bizarre fmv game called WIREHEAD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxuRlBonJNE

 





Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on August 22, 2019, 08:47:08 AM

ALSO - damn a lot of segaCD stuff has aged horribly. I think the fact that i'm playing using an OSSC is REALLY making the segacd's fmv limitations glaring.


I've been playing some of the FMV 25th anniversary releases like Night Trap and Corpse Killer and going back to the original Sega CD versions is pretty jarring.  They were pretty mind-blowing back in the day though.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 22, 2019, 09:24:55 AM
That sucks that the MegaSD is a little jank. Hopefully firmware patches can fix it.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on September 04, 2019, 10:39:43 AM
Got a couple more mini cabinets.

​​​​​​​The Replicade Tempest is the best one of these I've come across.  It's built really well, controls smooth, and the cabinet art is great.  Looking forward to the Street Fighter one now.

The MyArcade Namco Museum is pretty cool too, though I'm not a huge fan of the screen, especially for horizontal games like Rolling Thunder and Splatterhouse.

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/gweilo845/Mobile%20Uploads/2019-09/IMG_20190903_183919_328_zpsegoz58ok.jpg)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on September 04, 2019, 10:53:01 AM
Cool!  Wish I could get a better look at it without that PHOTOBUCKET shit plastered across the image.   
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on September 04, 2019, 11:19:57 AM
 :goty

(https://i.ibb.co/6Y7gHc8/IMG-20190904-093135-350.jpg)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on September 04, 2019, 11:25:08 AM
Lyte can't even see his toes, don't worry about him
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on September 04, 2019, 12:22:51 PM
:goty

(https://i.ibb.co/6Y7gHc8/IMG-20190904-093135-350.jpg)

 :rejoice
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Shuri on September 04, 2019, 01:10:34 PM
That sucks that the MegaSD is a little jank. Hopefully firmware patches can fix it.
the issues are still not patched :|
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on September 04, 2019, 01:21:10 PM
Slightly updated game room, until my wife starts throwing a shitfit that I bought Vidya so close to her birthday

(https://i.ibb.co/zrD1hjX/IMG-20190904-121800-239.jpg)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on September 04, 2019, 01:59:43 PM
What is hooked up to the TV?
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on September 04, 2019, 02:38:08 PM
PS4 playing Final Fight via the Capcom Beat Em Up Collection

Also have a modded SNES Classic, modded C64 Mini, modded PS Classic, and MAME box hooked up to the same TV

But yet I need MAOR GAMEZ~!

 :kinison
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on September 18, 2019, 11:20:55 AM
Just a heads up that there are some retro collections 50% off on PSN this week.  Castlevania (both the Anniversary collection and Requiem), Contra, Konami, Dragon's Lair, probably a couple more that I'm missing.

Also Track & Field got added to Arcade Archives.  Can't wait to break a $60 controller on the hammer throw.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rman on September 18, 2019, 04:46:34 PM
Slightly updated game room, until my wife starts throwing a shitfit that I bought Vidya so close to her birthday

(https://i.ibb.co/zrD1hjX/IMG-20190904-121800-239.jpg)
Nice room, but is that Blackberry you used to take the pic lol.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on September 23, 2019, 03:38:33 PM
 :six:

It's a cheapie burner phone, I spend all my spare cash on vidya and toys for my kid.

Track & Field on PS4 is fucking hard, even when you give yourself an extra "life".  Can't even get past the 3rd event.

 :snoop

I also got the Data East MyArcade mini cabinet.  Glad I only paid $40, there are a lot of stinkers on it.  Also (along with the Namco one) it doesn't make sense to me why there isn't a battery in it.  Kind of sucks to have to always have it plugged in.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: BisMarckie on September 24, 2019, 06:56:54 PM
Moral conundrum:
Let's say a colleague from work gave you his N64 games in exchange for an invitation to lunch. Turns out Conker's Bad Fur Day was among the games, along with OoT, Majora's Mask,Mario 64, Smash, Bomberman 64 and Mario Party 1.
Would you tell your colleague that he spent hundreds on that lunch and return these games?
I already own these games besides Conker and Mario Party. the other stuff was sports game junk. I wanted these games for me, not to make a quick buck off of them.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rufus on September 24, 2019, 07:03:08 PM
Pay for his lunch more often. Never say why until he catches on. Then go for a hug.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: BisMarckie on September 24, 2019, 07:16:51 PM
My initial idea was to sell the dupes and give him the money. This scenario would have me keeping Conker and MP1.  :doge
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rufus on September 24, 2019, 07:28:32 PM
Uh yeah, sure, that sounds good, too. Ahem.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on September 24, 2019, 09:58:53 PM
If you're trying to get good karma just tell him those games are worth money and he can make a quick buck. If he says he don't give a fuck then it's all yours, no sweat off your nuts
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 24, 2019, 11:50:35 PM
Work colleagues are not friends.  :kermit
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on September 25, 2019, 09:44:19 AM
Work colleagues are not friends.  :kermit

Pretty much the way I feel, I might say "hey if you go on eBay, you could probably get some good $$$" but chances are they probably wouldn't care anyway.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on September 28, 2019, 09:20:31 PM
Went and checked out the Round One that opened up here a couple of years back.  Was a bit of drive (it's in a mall out in the middle of nowhere) but cool to go see- it's like they took a Japanese game center and up and moved everything inside to 'Murica.  Was exactly the same and full of mostly Japanese cabs- loads of Bemani stuff and lots of older racing game cabs.  Tried out Luigi's Mansion arcade from Capcom.  It was dumb.  They even had Nesica cabs with multiple fighting games and Street Fighter V Arcade Edition with network play, lol.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rman on September 29, 2019, 09:05:54 AM
I've always wanted to visit a Final Round. As a fellow oldster, modern American arcades a la Dave and Busters, are a travesty. 
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Shuri on September 29, 2019, 09:59:25 AM
Bought a bunch of games at a local retrogaming event last week

Way of the Warrior 3DO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPsnkWqIfaU

I's kind of an infamous game, it doesnt exactly play well but it has a pretty badass Rod Zombie soundtrack. It's an interesting novelty, and that lava pit fatality is still pretty neat. Controls are crap but like I said, it's a novelty game.

Need for Speed 3DO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psCpOZC2RUI

The original one! A very impressive game when it was released! It has aged quite a lot but it's still quite playable. Finally owning a copy is pretty cool, I remember playing this endlessly on a demo unit in a mall during that summer where Batman Forever came out with that damn U2 theme song stuck in the head.

Robocop 3 Genesis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Iua2ZOXi34

Nice chunky genesis graphics, cool sound effects but ruined by it's difficulty level.

Battletoads vs Double Dragon Genesis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI15IYbjm3s

Frankly the snes port was superior when it comes to presentation. The gameplay is still there and it's fun, except for the super easy bosses. Still pretty humorous and fun to play.

X-Men Genesis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=169EjBYAHek

A popular release, but I just can't get into it at all. I know it's a well liked game but it's not clicking with me. Great graphics, fun soundtrack.. But i'm   :doge about the gameplay. a very hyped game upon release.

Captain America and the avengers Genesis:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjnl7uas3HM
A big downgrade compared to the arcade version, but the gameplay is still there. The soundtrack is so fucking catchy during boss fights.

Super Star Wars SNES:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnsGbd8WMNg

A classic action platformer, I played this so much back in the days that I would speedrun the entire thing without losing a life. Still fun to play. Great presentation for the snes

Super Return of the jedi SNES:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYMrO7EX8cI
What the fuck. This game is impossible. What happened to the difficulty level? You get assaulted NON STOP by endless enemies, traps, bottomless pits and super hard bosses. I don't get how I completely dominate the first game and I can barely finish the first few levels without losing all my credits. WTF?

TOP GEAR 2 Snes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q-xLf2NvPU

Mega classic game of the nineties. Great gameplay, incredible soundtrack, but ugh the terrible framerate is making this game hard to play in 2019.

Killer instinct snes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1-4z6bDdh0

Great port back then considering the hardware, the game play was all there. It's Killer instinct!

Killer instinct Gold N64:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-7sNrbvstk&t=405s

A strange upgraded port of Killer Instinct 2 arcade. Very decent, fun to play. I can't say anything really bad about it. The soundtrack is pretty epic.

Mortal Kombat Trilogy N64:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGXlwsop1FY

Secretly my favorite port of MKT. The sound effects are super low quality but there are no loading times. It looks great on the n64 and it's just endlessly playable.

Zombies ate my neighbors SNES:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0tBqLu_yk0
Super fun coop title. Music is catchy, still very playable.. a classic!

The 7th Saga SNES:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icX0iqgShoc

I remember being blown away by the concept back in the days when it was explained to me by a friend. An rpg where you can choose from between 7 characters, team up with them or kill them eventually? There's a wide variety of classes, it's all very j-rpg. I gotta actually spend time with the game but i'm hyped that I can finally get to play it after 25 years  :lol. I've heard the encounter rate is pretty super high tho.

Dragon Force SEGA SATURN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN1RwVnL4PE

Holy fuuuuccck this game is awesome so far. it's a japanese take on Heroes of Might and Magic, but with real time strategy-ish battles. The gameplay seems deep so far, but wow. One of the few games where the hype was worth it. The game is pretty complicated at first, the menu system (and weird traduction, sometimes) makes it more complicated than it should, but wow. One of the best saturn game.

Waku waku 7 sega saturn
https://youtu.be/5d-F9MvViT4

Dear God.. What happened? Huge downgrade over the Neogeo version, the audio is super weak, there are CONSTANT LOADING TIMES (3 loading screens before you get to a fight, and another one for every round) and lots of backgrounds are super compressed. It's a shame, as it was one of my favorite quirky game on the MVS. I'm still hunting for a legit copy of the mvs game..


 :doge and this completes my rundown of my latest retro purchases.








Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on September 29, 2019, 10:17:06 AM
7th Saga got fucked up for US release (since we have big fat white cocks) so it's needlessly difficult and shit was nerfed (xp/gold). There is a patch to change US version to the JP values

http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/264/
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Chooky on September 29, 2019, 10:17:46 AM
xmen was a shitty game that only got so much attention because it was still better than all the other abysmal xmen games. and that one gimmick is still the most fucked up thing in all of gaming.

and being excited for the 7th saga... might wanna read up on the localization changes they made to it first. iirc it's almost impossible to beat, and it might literally be impossible with certain character combinations?

still tho, very nice haul. a lot of fun stuff in there.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on September 29, 2019, 10:22:17 AM
Bought a bunch of games at a local retrogaming event last week

Good stuff!  A few comments:

Battletoads vs Double Dragon Genesis- What happened to the music here?  So bad, lol.

X-Men Genesis- Never got into this one.  Liked the sequel a lot more.

Quote
Captain America and the avengers Genesis:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjnl7uas3HM
A big downgrade compared to the arcade version, but the gameplay is still there. The soundtrack is so fucking catchy during boss fights.

OK port of a shit game, but man those are some good 16-bit tunes!   :lol

Quote
Killer instinct Gold N64:

A strange upgraded port of Killer Instinct 2 arcade. Very decent, fun to play. I can't say anything really bad about it. The soundtrack is pretty epic.

Missing a bunch of animation from the arcade original.

Quote
Waku waku 7 sega saturn

Dear God.. What happened? Huge downgrade over the Neogeo version, the audio is super weak, there are CONSTANT LOADING TIMES (3 loading screens before you get to a fight, and another one for every round) and lots of backgrounds are super compressed. It's a shame, as it was one of my favorite quirky game on the MVS. I'm still hunting for a legit copy of the mvs game..

There's also this-

(https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-m92i69d8x0/images/stencil/1280x1775/products/13530/20253/PS2_-_sunsoft_collection__19065.1549585282.jpg?c=2&imbypass=on)

Arcade-perfect versions of Galaxy Fight and Waku Waku 7!
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Shuri on September 29, 2019, 10:40:06 AM
7th Saga got fucked up for US release (since we have big fat white cocks) so it's needlessly difficult and shit was nerfed (xp/gold). There is a patch to change US version to the JP values

http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/264/
ah cool, thanks for the link. I had no idea! I'm gonna try it with my everdrive..
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on September 29, 2019, 10:46:47 AM
7th Saga got fucked up for US release (since we have big fat white cocks) so it's needlessly difficult and shit was nerfed (xp/gold). There is a patch to change US version to the JP values

http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/264/
ah cool, thanks for the link. I had no idea! I'm gonna try it with my everdrive..

That's really cool, I remember getting pretty far along in 7th Saga when I was little and then one of the other playable characters defeated me, stole my rune, and then she was literally impossible to beat due to the stat imbalances. From what I remember, even aside from the borked difficulty, the game wasn't anything to write home about... Brain Lord is from the same team (Almanac or Produce I believe) and is a better game, though it's a puzzle-heavy action RPG.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on September 29, 2019, 11:29:13 AM
Dragon Force is the bombdiggity.  Wish they ported the 2nd one to 'Murica.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on September 29, 2019, 04:48:06 PM
NES "port" of Captain American & The Avengers was the superior port. The SNES/Gen version of the arcade game was just too fucking slow.

Not even the same game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlX-7A4AFm4

:yuck
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on September 29, 2019, 04:58:36 PM
They're all shit.

But who the hell is going to take the NES game over the 16-bit and arcade games?   :lol

Fuck outta here with that shit.  :P
 :steiner
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on September 30, 2019, 08:53:53 AM

Super Return of the jedi SNES:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYMrO7EX8cI
What the fuck. This game is impossible. What happened to the difficulty level? You get assaulted NON STOP by endless enemies, traps, bottomless pits and super hard bosses. I don't get how I completely dominate the first game and I can barely finish the first few levels without losing all my credits. WTF?


IIRC the major compliant on Super Star Wars was the difficulty (specifically a couple of levels like the Sandcrawler) so Super Empire was made too easy, and Super Return swung the other way.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on September 30, 2019, 09:24:03 AM
I'm not taking it over the arcade game. I'm taking it over the SNES/GEN port of the arcade game that is agonizingly slow.

The NES game doesn't exactly look speedy either.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on September 30, 2019, 10:12:47 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/jKynmrx.png)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on October 16, 2019, 09:14:52 AM
Got the Replicade Street Fighter II mini cabinet.  Haven't had too much time to play it yet, but it's pretty badass so far.  The build quality on these is incredible.

(https://i.ibb.co/d5mp9d2/IMG-20191015-174907.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/mN2hRNf/IMG-20191015-181005.jpg)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Shuri on November 15, 2019, 08:44:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc9rjQTC5Bw&t=1810s


Received my copy of Twin Cobra II aka Kyukyoku Tiger II for the sega saturn. Amazing, Amazing shmup. Pure pixel goodness from 1997, fast action, perfect controls. I love it.

The only drawback is the semi long loading times between levels and the strange 1-2 seconds of loading time after a continue screen. But wow. It's.. amazing.

Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: chronovore on November 15, 2019, 09:13:04 PM
I can't play bullet-hell games. I get stressed just watching them.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Shuri on November 16, 2019, 10:58:26 AM
I can't play bullet-hell games. I get stressed just watching them.
Once you start playing them, it gets very addictive. It's very rewarding to see how far you can get with one credit.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on November 16, 2019, 11:06:00 AM
Speaking of bullet-hell, my copy of Muchi Muchi Pork/Pink Sweets for 360 just arrived in the mail 8)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on November 29, 2019, 09:35:50 PM
Awww yeah got a good Black Friday deal on the Genesis mini.  Looking forward to bastardizing it by modding it play SNES games.

(https://i.ibb.co/Sy0Bmtt/IMG-20191129-202218-916.jpg)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on November 29, 2019, 10:07:04 PM
Awww yeah got a good Black Friday deal on the Genesis mini.  Looking forward to bastardizing it by modding it play SNES games.

(https://i.ibb.co/Sy0Bmtt/IMG-20191129-202218-916.jpg)

Haven't looked at the modding stuff for this at all- does it do anything better than the other mini consoles?
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: MMaRsu on November 30, 2019, 07:57:18 AM
Awww yeah got a good Black Friday deal on the Genesis mini.  Looking forward to bastardizing it by modding it play SNES games.

(https://i.ibb.co/Sy0Bmtt/IMG-20191129-202218-916.jpg)

Is there a way to mod it yet? I just want to add S&K3
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on November 30, 2019, 02:23:58 PM
No way to mod it yet, but since it has 2 USB ports for the controllers, it's only a matter of time.  You can easily switch regions on it, so you can play Contra Hard Corps with a life bar, SF2 with the original names, etc.

(https://i.ibb.co/vZq5DLW/IMG-20191130-130814-226.jpg)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on November 30, 2019, 02:31:27 PM
You can technically mod it using latest Hakchi, but all it does is install Retroarch on it, which is [boring] since you already have a million other devices that do that.

Keep an eye on Project Lunar, which aims to do that plus let you use the default emulator, which has a surprisingly high compatibility rate with games.

https://modmyclassic.com/project-lunar/

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lW8ViyN_Sg0hrXCAqGgX0UEYwaWMhrcbJ_GzzNfTNlA/edit#gid=0
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on December 09, 2019, 02:38:31 AM
Got a new Nintendo 64.

I want some Nintendo 64 games. Is anyone willing to let go of any?
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on December 09, 2019, 05:39:11 PM
Yea send me some N64 games too, haha. Not that they've gone up in price or anything
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on December 09, 2019, 05:48:54 PM
Got a new Nintendo 64.

I want some Nintendo 64 games. Is anyone willing to let go of any?

Go to AliExpress and get a multicart.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 10, 2019, 01:10:30 AM
I have an EverDrive 64 and use it to play all my

...homebrew
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on December 10, 2019, 07:39:09 AM
New additions to the mini arcade

(https://i.ibb.co/9n6TS8G/IMG-20191210-062433-558.jpg)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Nintex on December 17, 2019, 07:23:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mznc8dhijTo

Voodoo 2  :lawd
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 17, 2019, 10:53:31 PM
Loved Shadows of the Empire as a young lad.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on December 30, 2019, 11:20:57 AM
https://io9.gizmodo.com/this-long-lost-akira-game-prototype-is-full-of-cyberpun-1840709227

https://youtu.be/QbHcqrAFseQ
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Chooky on December 30, 2019, 12:34:23 PM
how tf was a genesis game going to look that good? were they going to do a sega cd release too? those graphics and the amount of variety look unreal for an old cart game.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on December 30, 2019, 12:45:33 PM
how tf was a genesis game going to look that good? were they going to do a sega cd release too? those graphics and the amount of variety look unreal for an old cart game.

Reminds a lot of Toy Story.  I bet the game would have played like garbage though.

This is all we ever got, lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6qxc1yIsbU
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on December 30, 2019, 01:27:24 PM
I can't get over that awful GEMS music though  :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on December 31, 2019, 11:13:59 AM
MOTHER on GameCube mockups. :o

https://twitter.com/honnesan/status/1148813965025140737
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on January 02, 2020, 12:20:36 PM
https://comics.ha.com/itm/video-games/nintendo-play-station-prototype-sony-and-nintendo-c-1990s/p/7224-87001.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515

Someone's auctioning a real Nintendo PlayStation!

Edit- It's apparently the "last one" to survive, but I mean, who knows if that's really true.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on January 02, 2020, 12:25:23 PM
Isn't there only "the one"? I heard the father/son duo kept promoting it at events in order to generate interest for when he finally sells it off.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on January 02, 2020, 12:49:07 PM
Yeah see edit. It's the same one from all the YouTube vids.

I read he turned down $1.2 million from a Swedish collector a while ago. Lol good luck...
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Shuri on January 05, 2020, 05:32:12 AM
it's a shame that it's pretty much useless.  I mean, it plays sfc carts, and that's it.  if it came with a bunch of tech demos  that used the cd drive, or anything at all, then it would be interesting but eh :beli

That Akira demo was pretty neat, and  :neogaf at the Amiga version. But let's face it -- most of the amiga library is unplayable trash. Great graphics for the time, but mostly unplayable

Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on January 05, 2020, 10:18:39 AM
Who knows what kind of CDs might pop up in auction lots years from now. Although I suppose at this point those CDs would be reaching their end of life. :-\ It'd be cool to fully reverse engineer the hardware so we could replicate it in the future as needed.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Nintex on January 07, 2020, 07:20:32 AM
Is it just me or are GameCube/Wii game not increasing in value as time goes by?
I remember that GameCube games went for a pretty penny when the Wii was popular and people had missed out on all those games.
But now Tales of Symphonia can be found for 30 Euro.

Same for 360 games btw. The odd Limited Edition Alan Wake could still get you over 50 Euro but outside of that a Limited Edition of GoW2 for example is only worth 15 Euro.

Perhaps the value goes up as time goes by but I'm uncertain that will happen.
It reminds me of the MegaDrive games. Outside of the really Rare ones such as Mega Man or Castlevania they always remained worthless.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on January 07, 2020, 09:51:17 AM
Depends on the game, of course. Some GC games are fairly valuable and I don't see prices dropping anytime soon. Skies of Arcadia Legends, Cubivore, Fire Emblem PoR, Baten Kaitos Origins...
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on January 07, 2020, 10:44:54 AM
Nintendo is the definition of HODL

Feels so good owning Cubivore mmm yes daddy

Even third party games for Gamecube are worth more than on PS2/Xbox

Examples:

Def Jam Fight For NY
Timesplitters Future Perfect
Gauntlet Dark Legacy

Not that I've looked diligently at these hoping to get one for cheap
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on January 07, 2020, 10:51:00 AM
Tales of Symphonia got ported to a bunch of platforms, the value dropping is expected
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Nintex on January 07, 2020, 11:50:32 AM
Time Splitters FP for GameCube is 30 Euro.
Which is more than the average GC game but not something I would consider rare.

I have so many games I'll probably never play again in my life that I'm sort of wondering if I should start selling off some.
Mainly Wii games, of which I have nearly 80 I think and Xbox 360 games.
I enjoyed collecting over the years but if most Wii/360 era stuff is worthless it doesn't seem worth the effort.



Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on January 07, 2020, 12:53:15 PM
Oh, you're talking about EURO games

Nobody cares about Euro/PAL games haha

Seriously

They don't

Maybe your occasional exclusive. Maybe
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 07, 2020, 07:47:11 PM
This weekend I hunkered down and played through all of Eric Chahi's HEART OF DARKNESS on PS1. The game is fucking brutally hard so I had to savescum through most of it. It's like Out of This World but taken to an even more extreme degree, kinda hard to describe. The animation is fucking phenomenal though. Has a real interesting development history, was like 5 years in the making and it kinda shows I guess. Glad I played it but not a great game.

Also, I played it via retroarch's BeetlePSX emulator using a CRT filter. I've hated these things in the past, but this is the first time I've done it with a 4k monitor, and it looked really, really nice. Almost looks like ye olde phosphors.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: paprikastaude on January 07, 2020, 08:12:28 PM
Time Splitters FP for GameCube is 30 Euro.
Which is more than the average GC game but not something I would consider rare.

I have so many games I'll probably never play again in my life that I'm sort of wondering if I should start selling off some.
Mainly Wii games, of which I have nearly 80 I think and Xbox 360 games.
I enjoyed collecting over the years but if most Wii/360 era stuff is worthless it doesn't seem worth the effort.

Paper Mario GCN is like 200€ right now.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on January 07, 2020, 08:43:56 PM
This weekend I hunkered down and played through all of Eric Chahi's HEART OF DARKNESS on PS1. The game is fucking brutally hard so I had to savescum through most of it. It's like Out of This World but taken to an even more extreme degree, kinda hard to describe. The animation is fucking phenomenal though. Has a real interesting development history, was like 5 years in the making and it kinda shows I guess. Glad I played it but not a great game.

Also, I played it via retroarch's BeetlePSX emulator using a CRT filter. I've hated these things in the past, but this is the first time I've done it with a 4k monitor, and it looked really, really nice. Almost looks like ye olde phosphors.

I own this and the PC version. Even the [[[[[3D Glasses]]]]] Heart of Darkness makes my dick hard as... darkness
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: MMaRsu on January 08, 2020, 04:48:16 AM
Time Splitters FP for GameCube is 30 Euro.
Which is more than the average GC game but not something I would consider rare.

I have so many games I'll probably never play again in my life that I'm sort of wondering if I should start selling off some.
Mainly Wii games, of which I have nearly 80 I think and Xbox 360 games.
I enjoyed collecting over the years but if most Wii/360 era stuff is worthless it doesn't seem worth the effort.

Paper Mario GCN is like 200€ right now.

Gtfo is this for real?

Lol this game selling for 70/80 euro's.. shit is crazy.

Wish I didn't sell my GCN collection
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 08, 2020, 05:09:33 AM
sHOULD SELL ME cOPY OG tWIN sNAKES mAKE A NICE PROFIT ON SHITTY ASS MGS GAME
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Shuri on January 21, 2020, 08:09:12 AM
One of the roms on my UMK3 arcade board had gone bad. Bought an eprom burner, a few blank chips, burned a new rom and god damn, the game works perfectly now.

 :rejoice

Next step: do the same to my MK3 board. Seems like those chips are starting to go bad 🤔

In the coming days, i’ll be attempting to fix a dead Altered Beast board (it likely died from battery suiside) and a sega st-v board with cart problems. I got them both for peanuts, so fixing them would be a major victory

Fixing and learning about this stuff is so relaxing 😎
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 22, 2020, 09:52:05 PM
Found my old Ace Attorney 3 cartridge for DS and am wrapping it up after 15 years. Using a DSi which is the shit; nice to have 1:1 pixels and that huge display (3DS scaling of DS games is uggo).

Wondering what AA game I should play next, can't remember what order they take place in for the life of me.

Also if you have a DSi you should google MemoryPit
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rman on January 22, 2020, 10:31:50 PM
Don't know if this allowed here, but are there any decent ROMs sites around. I'm thinking of coping some Everdrives and going that route with original modded hardware. And no I'm not paying ridiculous prices for NES, SNES, Genesis carts. 

I do try to get stuff legit via classic collections so I'm not a complete garbage person. Nor do I pirate stuff I can't buy at reasonable prices.  I also buy all those mini consoles. But I'm itching for original hardware. The nostalgia boner is too strong.

You can guys can PM if it's not allowed.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on January 22, 2020, 11:35:55 PM
Found my old Ace Attorney 3 cartridge for DS and am wrapping it up after 15 years. Using a DSi which is the shit; nice to have 1:1 pixels and that huge display (3DS scaling of DS games is uggo).

Wondering what AA game I should play next, can't remember what order they take place in for the life of me.

Also if you have a DSi you should google MemoryPit

All the AA games are in order, go nuts. 1 and 3 are pretty much the best in the series imo
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 23, 2020, 12:02:38 AM
Should I do the Edgeworth spinoffs
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on January 23, 2020, 08:28:01 AM
If you're looking for complete ROM sets, archive.org has them for pretty much any system.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rman on January 23, 2020, 08:41:44 AM
Don't know if this allowed here, but are there any decent ROMs sites around. I'm thinking of coping some Everdrives and going that route with original modded hardware. And no I'm not paying ridiculous prices for NES, SNES, Genesis carts. 

I do try to get stuff legit via classic collections so I'm not a complete garbage person. Nor do I pirate stuff I can't buy at reasonable prices.  I also buy all those mini consoles. But I'm itching for original hardware. The nostalgia boner is too strong.

You can guys can PM if it's not allowed.

Emuparadise is still up and running strong. :lol at anyone who would think someone is a garbage person for downloading roms for 25-35 year old 8-16 bit kideos.

Idk.  Coming from GAF and ERA, didn't know the policy here lol.

Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 23, 2020, 08:54:30 AM
As long as you're not posting, like, direct links nobody's gonna care too much.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on January 23, 2020, 09:44:01 AM
Idk.  Coming from GAF and ERA, didn't know the policy here lol.

You've been a member here since 2007 though  :lol
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Kunai With Chain on January 23, 2020, 09:53:28 AM
Don't know if this allowed here, but are there any decent ROMs sites around. I'm thinking of coping some Everdrives and going that route with original modded hardware. And no I'm not paying ridiculous prices for NES, SNES, Genesis carts. 

I do try to get stuff legit via classic collections so I'm not a complete garbage person. Nor do I pirate stuff I can't buy at reasonable prices.  I also buy all those mini consoles. But I'm itching for original hardware. The nostalgia boner is too strong.

You can guys can PM if it's not allowed.
Just search for the /r/roms subreddit and follow the megathread thread link at the top.

I've kinda gone off buying retro games myself, well mainly NES games. It's just a pain in the ass to buy them for the jacked up prices and half the time they don't work until you clean them. Even then on shit like my NES it's touch and go. On the other hand it is kinda satisfying buying a game at what already felt like jacked up prices and then coming back later to see the prices have risen even higher.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rman on January 23, 2020, 10:04:13 AM
Idk.  Coming from GAF and ERA, didn't know the policy here lol.

You've been a member here since 2007 though  :lol

I know. But I didn't know if you guys had a policy lol.

I've just gotten into retro stuff recently as well.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on January 23, 2020, 10:10:17 AM
Should also be plenty of torrents out there, too.  Easy enough to get the 8 and 16 bit console sets- arcade is where it can be a pain in the ass.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rman on January 23, 2020, 10:34:38 AM
I wanna explore Sega CD, especially with Terra Onion's Mega SD cart.

But a lot of the big hitters are crazy expensive--Snatcher, Popful Mail.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on January 23, 2020, 11:06:33 AM
Yeah I think it's because there isn't that much stock out there due to the system not being that popular, and also the cases were shit which led to a lot of scratched discs.  I was gonna get one, but the prices are way too high right now.  I just use a modded SNES classic to play the games.  I have a soft spot for the 90s FMV cheese.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on January 23, 2020, 11:17:59 AM
Should I do the Edgeworth spinoffs

I didn't care for the english one, never played the sequel (I think it has a fan translation).

They're even translating the 3DS one that takes place in old japan.

But avoid Layton vs Wright it's really not that good
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on January 23, 2020, 11:20:14 AM
Don't know if this allowed here, but are there any decent ROMs sites around. I'm thinking of coping some Everdrives and going that route with original modded hardware. And no I'm not paying ridiculous prices for NES, SNES, Genesis carts. 

I do try to get stuff legit via classic collections so I'm not a complete garbage person. Nor do I pirate stuff I can't buy at reasonable prices.  I also buy all those mini consoles. But I'm itching for original hardware. The nostalgia boner is too strong.

You can guys can PM if it's not allowed.

Emuparadise is still up and running strong. :lol at anyone who would think someone is a garbage person for downloading roms for 25-35 year old 8-16 bit kideos.

you're not a garbage person. just a very lazy one. we know roms are not hard to find. put some effort in.

"if you can't find it, you don't deserve it" - god
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on January 23, 2020, 11:26:58 AM
I wanna explore Sega CD, especially with Terra Onion's Mega SD cart.

But a lot of the big hitters are crazy expensive--Snatcher, Popful Mail.
The ultimate euphoria is playing those on a Sega CDX.
 :ohyeah
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rman on January 23, 2020, 12:17:45 PM
Don't know if this allowed here, but are there any decent ROMs sites around. I'm thinking of coping some Everdrives and going that route with original modded hardware. And no I'm not paying ridiculous prices for NES, SNES, Genesis carts. 

I do try to get stuff legit via classic collections so I'm not a complete garbage person. Nor do I pirate stuff I can't buy at reasonable prices.  I also buy all those mini consoles. But I'm itching for original hardware. The nostalgia boner is too strong.

You can guys can PM if it's not allowed.

Emuparadise is still up and running strong. :lol at anyone who would think someone is a garbage person for downloading roms for 25-35 year old 8-16 bit kideos.

you're not a garbage person. just a very lazy one. we know roms are not hard to find. put some effort in.

"if you can't find it, you don't deserve it" - god
I used to dabble with ROMs a long time ago.  I just hated the sketchy sites full of malware. 

Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on January 23, 2020, 12:19:34 PM
I wanna explore Sega CD, especially with Terra Onion's Mega SD cart.

But a lot of the big hitters are crazy expensive--Snatcher, Popful Mail.
The ultimate euphoria is playing those on a Sega CDX.
 :ohyeah

It was better playing them on a modded Xbox, with some nice filters, no load times, and in 480P back in the day.
 :woken
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on January 23, 2020, 12:47:09 PM
I used to dabble with ROMs a long time ago.  I just hated the sketchy sites full of malware.

those still exist but it's still much easier to find games with resources like reddit etc these days
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on January 23, 2020, 01:24:50 PM
ROMS pre 32 bit era are cake to deal with.  Getting PS1/Saturn games to run properly is the big pita, imo.  All the technical stuff to spruce up the graphics goes way over my head; OpenGL and all that jargen.  :whatisthis
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rufus on January 23, 2020, 02:49:10 PM
I used to dabble with ROMs a long time ago.  I just hated the sketchy sites full of malware.
Archive.org has full sets, too. Torrents and direct downloads. You might have to make an account for some of them, but it's worth it.
Tons of old PC games, too. Recently found American McGee's Scrapland there after less reputable sites let me down.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on January 23, 2020, 11:54:17 PM
ROMS pre 32 bit era are cake to deal with.  Getting PS1/Saturn games to run properly is the big pita, imo.  All the technical stuff to spruce up the graphics goes way over my head; OpenGL and all that jargen.  :whatisthis

I've never had trouble with PS2 or PS1 but I never fuck around with the graphics settings and just play the default settings. I did have trouble with a Dreamcast emulator though.
Funny you mention that, because I've had the opposite experience. Reicast ran Grandia 2 and Skies of Arcadia perfectly uprezzed and widescreen in default with no finagling.  PS1 (FPse & ePSXe) and Saturn (Yaba Sanshiro) always has certain things missing, like certain effects or text or the sounds are off.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Potato on January 25, 2020, 08:55:37 PM
Been having fond memories of playing Gunsmoke on the NES lately. Is there a simple and legitimate way to play it in 2020?
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on January 25, 2020, 09:00:56 PM
Simple? Plenty of ways

Legit? Definitely not
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Potato on January 25, 2020, 11:03:19 PM
Simple? Plenty of ways

Legit? Definitely not
Bugger.

Best emulator for PC?
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: BisMarckie on January 26, 2020, 05:14:54 AM
Mesen is probably the best one, but honestly, if you just want to play some NES game for a nostalgia kick pretty much any emulator will do a fine job.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: benjipwns on January 26, 2020, 05:23:24 AM
Mesen is a core in RetroArch too.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: MMaRsu on January 26, 2020, 06:50:34 AM
https://youtu.be/2IST_g7pq-M

this is awesome
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: MMaRsu on January 26, 2020, 06:51:39 AM
Been having fond memories of playing Gunsmoke on the NES lately. Is there a simple and legitimate way to play it in 2020?

I think u can buy gunsmoke on ebay right?
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Potato on January 26, 2020, 09:12:04 AM
Some joker is trying to sell the pal version on eBay for $75.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rman on January 26, 2020, 12:41:39 PM
Any MISTer users here? Looks very promising.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 26, 2020, 08:14:26 PM
MISTer is still a bit more intense than the current Pi scene, I may give it a few months
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Shuri on January 26, 2020, 10:02:00 PM
Most MISTer users are so fucking annoying about it on twitter tho. I'm about to mute any mentions of it. Get the fuck over it, god damn.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on January 26, 2020, 11:17:53 PM
Most MISTer users are so fucking annoying about it on twitter tho. I'm about to mute any mentions of it. Get the fuck over it, god damn.

:confused
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: benjipwns on January 27, 2020, 08:22:50 AM
PCSX2 actually can.

An emulator not written to be able to set the IO processor to backwards compability mode won't work, the processor is clocked to a different speed and the GTE is turned off when it's in PS2 mode. The Slims (and some later first models) don't even have actual PS1 processors it's a different chip that replicates it that's why some games don't work or glitch out especially with memory cards. Most people won't even bother since you have to figure out how to emulate the GTE. (Something not even Sony has fully done.)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on January 27, 2020, 08:23:49 AM
Been having fond memories of playing Gunsmoke on the NES lately. Is there a simple and legitimate way to play it in 2020?

If you still have a PS3 or 360, you can download it.

https://youtu.be/2IST_g7pq-M

this is awesome

I like that game a lot.  It was one of the last things filmed in the original Shaw Brothers "Shaw Town" lot.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on January 31, 2020, 07:24:58 AM
https://twitter.com/sega_city/status/1222968597536034816
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rman on February 02, 2020, 04:52:08 PM
Anyone see this, old gamers? I know Shuri is a big arcade guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxc_K7RKRy0
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Shuri on February 02, 2020, 10:07:34 PM
Oooh cooll! I’ll watch it tomorrow!


I’m now almost done with Final Fantasy 4, i’m playing the PSX port. It’s still very enjoyable in 2020. This game has been quite an emotional flashback trip to me.  For some reasons I really connected with the game on the SNES back in the days. I was having a rather shitty time on a personal level back then, and this game was an outlet. I had played  so much that I maxed all my characters to level 99  :lol

It was pretty wild to get flashbacks about certain real life people and events while replaying this. I even reconnected with an old friend on fb because of this. Back in the days, we ended up both getting the game on the same xmas so for months this was our big subject of conversation at school. It was nice to catch up because of this replay of the game. Turns out he lives on another continent now! Crazy!

The new translation is great, the music sounds better than in the snes version (?),  and overall it’s a great port. I can’t find any faults with it.


Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on February 03, 2020, 08:14:08 AM
I hope MK 12 brings back the fun and playful side of MK

Have you seen Joker in 11?

:society :joker :society

But yeah, I think Mortal Kombat needs another reboot.  I liked how MK9 went back to basics and even though there have only been two games since that point, they need to go back to that.  Not big on the all customization stuff that's in MK11 and Injustice 2 with "loot box" shit tied to needing in-game currency to unlock stuff and random part unlocks.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: MMaRsu on February 03, 2020, 08:21:38 AM
Joker is such a garbage guest character
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on February 03, 2020, 08:29:26 AM
Joker is such a garbage guest character

Looks pretty cool to me.  But that's for the MK thread.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Shuri on February 03, 2020, 07:12:25 PM
The fatalities were way over the top in MK11. It’s MK:DA levels of bad and awful. I miss straightforward fatalities like in MK1/2. I  know they have brutalities  but it’s not the same. Everything is so complicated and extreme, I just don’t enjoy it anymore.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bluemax on February 03, 2020, 10:30:39 PM
Saw this reposted on a news site today Shuri:

https://arcadeblogger.com/2016/05/06/arcade-raid-the-duke-of-lancaster-ship/
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Bebpo on February 04, 2020, 04:56:55 AM
Saw this reposted on a news site today Shuri:

https://arcadeblogger.com/2016/05/06/arcade-raid-the-duke-of-lancaster-ship/

That was a great read  :)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Akala on February 04, 2020, 06:19:17 PM
that arcade blogger site is cool.I didn't know they had this in the museum in vegas.  :o

http://arcadeblogger.com/2018/07/06/arcade-holy-grail-the-pinball-circus/
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tuckers Law on February 04, 2020, 08:17:22 PM
Thanks for posting that Bluemax, that’s a neat site.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 04, 2020, 08:20:49 PM
that arcade blogger site is cool.I didn't know they had this in the museum in vegas.  :o

http://arcadeblogger.com/2018/07/06/arcade-holy-grail-the-pinball-circus/

Vegas Pinball Museum is fucking nuts-butts. I could have spent like...multiple days there.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tuckers Law on February 04, 2020, 08:35:13 PM
that arcade blogger site is cool.I didn't know they had this in the museum in vegas.  :o

http://arcadeblogger.com/2018/07/06/arcade-holy-grail-the-pinball-circus/

Vegas Pinball Museum is fucking nuts-butts. I could have spent like...multiple days there.
For me it would multiple days, all on either T2 or Star Trek TNG.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Akala on February 04, 2020, 10:37:00 PM
oh I have been multiple times, it's great. that said, I thought it was moving near mandalay bay, but quick google and seems it hasn't? the only real knock on it is that it's off strip...then again it could go way downhill if it does move and there are 5x the people/kids there. would give them way more money to work with though.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bluemax on February 05, 2020, 12:23:46 AM
Glad you guys like that site, I can't take much credit for finding it. I check a news aggregator called Hacker News at work when I'm bored and it was posted to there, so I saved it for when I got home. Definitely a cool read though.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on February 05, 2020, 08:16:35 AM
oh I have been multiple times, it's great. that said, I thought it was moving near mandalay bay, but quick google and seems it hasn't? the only real knock on it is that it's off strip...then again it could go way downhill if it does move and there are 5x the people/kids there. would give them way more money to work with though.

The PHOF still owns the land near MB, but has been stalled on getting permits to build.  It was originally going to be designed like a giant pinball machine, but they had to scale that back.  The current location isn't too bad, though I guess a lot of tourists might be put off by it.  I took the bus to/from there a few times and never had any issues.  The last couple of times I went, it was probably $20 round trip on Uber from the Tropicana.  The Crown and Anchor bar a couple of blocks from there is pretty good food if you like English pub stuff.

New York New York has a decent selection of pinball tables.  I spent New Year's Eve there a couple of years ago because I am a huge nerd (and didn't want to pay $30 for drinks).
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Shuri on February 09, 2020, 03:46:23 PM
an old link I had bookmarked forever. This is one of the coolest private arcade setup ever. It was dismanted a long time ago when the owner got in a messy divorce, everything got sold, but still, damn.

http://www.peterhirschberg.com/#/LunaCityArcadeMirror

It legit feels like a late eighties arcade.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Coax on February 09, 2020, 08:34:09 PM
Not often of late I come across more idiosyncratic site designs. Bit refreshing.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on February 09, 2020, 09:11:22 PM
an old link I had bookmarked forever. This is one of the coolest private arcade setup ever. It was dismanted a long time ago when the owner got in a messy divorce, everything got sold, but still, damn.

http://www.peterhirschberg.com/#/LunaCityArcadeMirror

It legit feels like a late eighties arcade.

I've been to one private arcade in Southampton that takes after that a whole lot, the dude did pest control for the stars (including Paul McCartney), was loaded, and had converted the top floor of his office into a vintage arcade. Even had some super rare crash-era games like Super Bagman, all of the Atari Vector games, a Silent Scope setup, a life size Predator statue... fucking amazing place.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 09, 2020, 09:27:33 PM
http://www.peterhirschberg.com/#/LunaCityArcadeMirror

It legit feels like a late eighties arcade.

If any of you bros ever find yourself in Dallas, go to the National Videogame Museum:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XmYzwanUSA
http://www.nvmusa.org/
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on February 10, 2020, 09:59:55 AM
So who am I going to see at Portland Retro this year?
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on February 10, 2020, 01:36:08 PM
FYI PSN has a Retro and Remasters sale going on, some pretty decent deals

https://store.playstation.com/en-us/grid/STORE-MSF77008-REMASTERSRETRO/1
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Shuri on February 10, 2020, 10:41:15 PM
Finished ff4 today.  The ending was a bit cheesier than I remembered, and I like how they didn’t even bother to explain how the twins are back.  Their sacrifice was a major moment and at the end they’re back and it’s as if nothing happened. Zeromus was one violent bastard, but on my 3rd try I somehow accidentally managed  to glitch his script. He killed kain and rydia and then he pretty much got stuck in a loop where he would cast black hole or whatever, and a shitty version of meteo.

Edge and Cecil slowly killed him while Rosa cure4’ed the crew non stop. It was rather underwhelming

I was thinking of starting ff5 next, but that psx remake of ff1 and ff2 are pretty tempting. I also never really tried Chrono Trigger so this could be a good time  to finally really give it a try.  Is ff tactics worth it?

Btw I was playing the psx port of ff4, the weird 3d remakes looked so terrible



Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on February 10, 2020, 11:29:51 PM
Finished ff4 today.  The ending was a bit cheesier than I remembered, and I like how they didn’t even bother to explain how the twins are back.  Their sacrifice was a major moment and at the end they’re back and it’s as if nothing happened. Zeromus was one violent bastard, but on my 3rd try I somehow accidentally managed  to glitch his script. He killed kain and rydia and then he pretty much got stuck in a loop where he would cast black hole or whatever, and a shitty version of meteo.

Edge and Cecil slowly killed him while Rosa cure4’ed the crew non stop. It was rather underwhelming

I was thinking of starting ff5 next, but that psx remake of ff1 and ff2 are pretty tempting. I also never really tried Chrono Trigger so this could be a good time  to finally really give it a try.  Is ff tactics worth it?

Btw I was playing the psx port of ff4, the weird 3d remakes looked so terrible

Origins is in my opinion the best of the FF1/2 remakes, since the GBA and PSP ports neuter the difficulty (but maybe in the case of FF2 it's for the best). FF1 I have a shit-ton of nostalgia for, as that's how my friends and I spent our summer 1990... but 2 does not hold up due to the proto-SaGa systems in place, so you're better off reading a plot summary. If you're more into RPGs for gameplay than story, then FF5 is a must (GBA port being the ideal way to play). Tactics is definitely worth playing too if you like strategy RPGs.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 12, 2020, 09:37:49 PM
So who am I going to see at Portland Retro this year?

Mmmmmaybe? Might fly in from Japan for this, it really is the funnest show of the year
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Akala on February 13, 2020, 04:39:18 PM
The SNK40th collection is really well done IMO, even if most of the games don't really hold up. I like the presentation/info more than playing a lot of these oldies, but options to change language, arcade vs console, etc. Worth the 15 bux I got it for.

I think they somehow left off the museum page for Ikari Warriors II arcade tho.  :doge
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 13, 2020, 08:22:44 PM
The SNK40th collection is really well done IMO, even if most of the games don't really hold up. I like the presentation/info more than playing a lot of these oldies, but options to change language, arcade vs console, etc. Worth the 15 bux I got it for.

I think they somehow left off the museum page for Ikari Warriors II arcade tho.  :doge

Yeah, I liked this a lot. I think all the recorded playthroughs you can jump into are Frank Cifaldi brute-forcing his way through at the frame level  :lol
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bluemax on February 13, 2020, 10:41:06 PM
Finished ff4 today.  The ending was a bit cheesier than I remembered, and I like how they didn’t even bother to explain how the twins are back.  Their sacrifice was a major moment and at the end they’re back and it’s as if nothing happened. Zeromus was one violent bastard, but on my 3rd try I somehow accidentally managed  to glitch his script. He killed kain and rydia and then he pretty much got stuck in a loop where he would cast black hole or whatever, and a shitty version of meteo.

Edge and Cecil slowly killed him while Rosa cure4’ed the crew non stop. It was rather underwhelming

I was thinking of starting ff5 next, but that psx remake of ff1 and ff2 are pretty tempting. I also never really tried Chrono Trigger so this could be a good time  to finally really give it a try.  Is ff tactics worth it?

Btw I was playing the psx port of ff4, the weird 3d remakes looked so terrible

Origins is in my opinion the best of the FF1/2 remakes, since the GBA and PSP ports neuter the difficulty (but maybe in the case of FF2 it's for the best). FF1 I have a shit-ton of nostalgia for, as that's how my friends and I spent our summer 1990... but 2 does not hold up due to the proto-SaGa systems in place, so you're better off reading a plot summary. If you're more into RPGs for gameplay than story, then FF5 is a must (GBA port being the ideal way to play). Tactics is definitely worth playing too if you like strategy RPGs.

Yeah the PS1 versions of FF1/FF2 are probably the best (PSP I think is best for FF4).

Personally I think FF2 is something people should at least try to play, just because of how far ahead of its time it was. Yeah its a Kawazu game so everything is unbalanced and a little clunky, but the jump in complexity of story telling and systems design from FF1 to FF2 is so much bigger than most other games of the time.

You have a story on the NES with off the top of my head, something to the effect of 10+ NAMED characters with individual personalities, many of whom come and go from your party like in FF4. And I mean, there's a narrative! People say more than one line of dialogue! A conversation system that is an extension of the VERB system used in a lot of older PC and NES adventure games, but applied to a JRPG. A progression system that breaks that breaks the conventions most JRPGs stuck to for another decade, and that would fit in more with many popular western RPGs. I also think little things like just seeing Cid's airship fly around randomly before you have your own airship added a lot of life to the world.

Most people just get hung up on punching themselves in the face to gain more HP though.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on February 14, 2020, 10:19:32 AM
Palmer Luckey is bidding on the Nintendo Playstation (currently at around ~$360k)

https://twitter.com/PalmerLuckey/status/1228115750381948928
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 15, 2020, 09:47:05 AM
Palmer Luckey is bidding on the Nintendo Playstation (currently at around ~$360k)

https://twitter.com/PalmerLuckey/status/1228115750381948928

I'm going to say it right now, this thing kind of sucks. It didn't really offer anything beyond serving as a big cartridge. If it added a ton of extra ram or new chips a la Sega CD it would have been dope, but the design philosophy of it seemed to be "let's just put the media on a CD and leave it at that"

Also in the dudes who are selling this are complete yahoos, they would just plug it into the mains at shows and let idiots like me touch it and pick it up and plug my headphones into it when IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM!!!!!
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Shuri on February 15, 2020, 12:26:46 PM
Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi are so incredibly hard, for fucks sake, I've been trying to beat them all week and it's been a constant massacre. Even back in the days they were considered hard, but I wasn't expecting such a challenge. I could finish Super Star Wars on a single life but those games?  :doge :doge
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rman on February 15, 2020, 12:58:04 PM
Anyone see this from the excellent MLIG channel? And this is just part one. It's professional documentary level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0AOzKwStM0
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on February 15, 2020, 12:59:07 PM
ROTJ can lick my balls with it's shitty opening sand speeder level.  Was the beginning of the end of good LucasFarts.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Shuri on February 16, 2020, 10:32:48 PM
Re: Dragon Force Saturn

I think I posted about having bought this game a few months ago, I played it for a while then it got sidetracked by other purchases  :doge, I tried going back to it this weekend and Hmm. I can understand that's it was pretty neat for the time period, I can't help but feel that it's a bit simplistic and repetitive. I can't say I'm the best at the game but the gameplay is very rock/scissor/paper when it comes to strategies. Maybe I am missing something, but I think I was under the impression that the combat system was going to be deeper.

Is there a really point to the various formations? I feel like it's useful to dodge ranged attacks but..  :pitbull I was a man of culture in those days and I was playing stuff like Heroes of Might and Magic 2 and 3, so it feels a bit.. Thin.

Presentation is great!  I'm also going to be returning to Dark Savior for the Sega Saturn. I bought this with DragonForce and from what I played, it was pretty interesting.

tiesto, thanks for the FF1 suggestion, I started it today and wow, I'm really impressed by how well it was made.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on February 16, 2020, 11:04:38 PM
I was a huge Landstalker fan, but the one-on-one combat in Dark Savior didn't quite work out for me. Some really unique design decisions in that game, basically how you play the opening chapter will take you to one of 5 different routes through the game. I really need to give that and Dragonforce a fair shake, since I wasn't really able to get into either game.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on February 16, 2020, 11:25:00 PM
only hardcore final fantasy fans play ff1 on old flip phones

https://m.imgur.com/a/7wDmzb9
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on February 17, 2020, 01:52:26 AM
only hardcore final fantasy fans play ff1 on old flip phones

https://m.imgur.com/a/7wDmzb9
That was the way I played it my first time.  The ending dialogue/epilogue kinda kicked me in the feels part of my package.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on February 17, 2020, 11:10:34 AM
I was a huge Landstalker fan, but the one-on-one combat in Dark Savior didn't quite work out for me. Some really unique design decisions in that game, basically how you play the opening chapter will take you to one of 5 different routes through the game. I really need to give that and Dragonforce a fair shake, since I wasn't really able to get into either game.

Landstalker was the GOAT and none of Climax's games following it were as good, IMO.  Although I did not play through Ladystalker.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on February 17, 2020, 11:25:08 AM
I was a huge Landstalker fan, but the one-on-one combat in Dark Savior didn't quite work out for me. Some really unique design decisions in that game, basically how you play the opening chapter will take you to one of 5 different routes through the game. I really need to give that and Dragonforce a fair shake, since I wasn't really able to get into either game.

Landstalker was the GOAT and none of Climax's games following it were as good, IMO.  Although I did not play through Ladystalker.
Alundra was right up there though...
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on February 17, 2020, 11:38:18 AM
I was a huge Landstalker fan, but the one-on-one combat in Dark Savior didn't quite work out for me. Some really unique design decisions in that game, basically how you play the opening chapter will take you to one of 5 different routes through the game. I really need to give that and Dragonforce a fair shake, since I wasn't really able to get into either game.

Landstalker was the GOAT and none of Climax's games following it were as good, IMO.  Although I did not play through Ladystalker.
Alundra was right up there though...

I need to give that another shot since there's a non-WD English version out there now.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on February 17, 2020, 11:48:48 AM
I was a huge Landstalker fan, but the one-on-one combat in Dark Savior didn't quite work out for me. Some really unique design decisions in that game, basically how you play the opening chapter will take you to one of 5 different routes through the game. I really need to give that and Dragonforce a fair shake, since I wasn't really able to get into either game.

Landstalker was the GOAT and none of Climax's games following it were as good, IMO.  Although I did not play through Ladystalker.
Alundra was right up there though...

I need to give that another shot since there's a non-WD English version out there now.
IIRC, that patch/mod allows for widescreen too. 
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on February 17, 2020, 12:28:35 PM
I was a huge Landstalker fan, but the one-on-one combat in Dark Savior didn't quite work out for me. Some really unique design decisions in that game, basically how you play the opening chapter will take you to one of 5 different routes through the game. I really need to give that and Dragonforce a fair shake, since I wasn't really able to get into either game.

Landstalker was the GOAT and none of Climax's games following it were as good, IMO.  Although I did not play through Ladystalker.
Alundra was right up there though...

I need to give that another shot since there's a non-WD English version out there now.
IIRC, that patch/mod allows for widescreen too.

Last time I tried it (I think it was running the ISO on Retropie) it wouldn't play  :'(
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on February 17, 2020, 01:22:58 PM
Last time I tried it (I think it was running the ISO on Retropie) it wouldn't play  :'(
Funny you mention that, when I tried it on the Wii U PS1 emu, I got all the way to the point you can use your sword again in the town... But the first patch of grass I cut anywhere instantly drops a rare item, and when I pick it up.... It crashes the game.    :(. I don't know if it's the emu or the iso or the patch.. too much tinkering for me to figure it out.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on February 19, 2020, 02:45:46 PM
https://twitter.com/LimitedRunGames/status/1230160744131563520
https://twitter.com/LimitedRunGames/status/1230205492712083456

Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on February 19, 2020, 02:50:07 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERKaMXjXUAczhAW?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on February 19, 2020, 02:51:24 PM
Glad there's a PC version too, even if it is only the LE.  Gonna probably get that- Monkey Island is one of my favorite games of all time. :drool

EDIT: This is also the Sega CD version.  A PC version is coming later. Hmm... :thinking
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 19, 2020, 03:02:05 PM
I actually have the Sega CD version.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on February 19, 2020, 08:06:58 PM
I actually have the Sega CD version.

It's OK, but the PC version was the best.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on February 19, 2020, 08:30:30 PM
I never knew there was a Sega CD version... My preteen years feel robbed. :-\
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 19, 2020, 09:00:37 PM
Load times were terrible on the Sega CD version and it used a password save system that sometimes wouldn’t “remember” items you’d picked up. It’s a curiosity at best, not sure why they’re releasing it.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tuckers Law on February 20, 2020, 04:52:52 PM
Missed opportunity to create and pack in a rubber chicken with a pulley in it.
  :trash
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Occam on February 21, 2020, 08:44:21 AM
Not sure why anyone who collects games would buy these reprints. While they are legal (because LRG obtains the rights to do them from the companies who currently own the rights), just like LRG's other reprints of old console games for GB, NES, SNES, N64 etc., they aren't actually licensed by the platform owners (Nintendo, Sega, etc.).
Meaning, unlike their games for current systems (PS4, Switch, PS Vita), these console re-releases aren't official. So for collecting purposes, they have little to no value. Even completionists who try to collect complete game libraries don't need them.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on February 21, 2020, 08:55:13 AM
Not sure why anyone who collects games would buy these reprints. While they are legal (because LRG obtains the rights to do them from the companies who currently own the rights), just like LRG's other reprints of old console games for GB, NES, SNES, N64 etc., they aren't actually licensed by the platform owners (Nintendo, Sega, etc.).
Meaning, unlike their games for current systems (PS4, Switch, PS Vita), these console re-releases aren't official. So for collecting purposes, they have little to no value. Even completionists who try to collect complete game libraries don't need them.

I'm interested because I love me some Monkey Island.  I see they're doing this for Rebel Assault on Sega CD too.  I assume the same would go for someone who is a fan of that game.  They already know the collectors are going to buy up most of their stock anyway.

Dunno if I'm going to get the Sega CD MI set anyway with them saying a PC re-release is coming later on.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on February 21, 2020, 08:59:44 AM
https://twitter.com/LimitedRunGames/status/1230543926848827396/
https://twitter.com/LimitedRunGames/status/1230567912512966657
https://twitter.com/LimitedRunGames/status/1230543926848827396
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 21, 2020, 09:04:59 AM
Wouldn't mind grabbing realMyst. :gladbron
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on February 21, 2020, 09:12:19 AM
Wouldn't mind grabbing realMyst. :gladbron

What about the Nurse Love collection for Switch?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERO_17CWAAIpl7y?format=jpg&name=large)
:uguu
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 21, 2020, 09:31:44 AM
:jeb
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on February 21, 2020, 02:17:35 PM
Not sure why anyone who collects games would buy these reprints. While they are legal (because LRG obtains the rights to do them from the companies who currently own the rights), just like LRG's other reprints of old console games for GB, NES, SNES, N64 etc., they aren't actually licensed by the platform owners (Nintendo, Sega, etc.).
Meaning, unlike their games for current systems (PS4, Switch, PS Vita), these console re-releases aren't official. So for collecting purposes, they have little to no value. Even completionists who try to collect complete game libraries don't need them.

I'm interested because I love me some Monkey Island.  I see they're doing this for Rebel Assault on Sega CD too.  I assume the same would go for someone who is a fan of that game.  They already know the collectors are going to buy up most of their stock anyway.

Dunno if I'm going to get the Sega CD MI set anyway with them saying a PC re-release is coming later on.

I've tried replaying Rebel Assault on Sega CD recently and it's borderline unplayable now, as in it's damn near impossible to see where you need to move or shoot at.  I have no idea how I was able to 1CC it back in the day, especially since I was usually under the influence of heavy psychedelics.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on February 21, 2020, 02:56:13 PM
Not sure why anyone who collects games would buy these reprints. While they are legal (because LRG obtains the rights to do them from the companies who currently own the rights), just like LRG's other reprints of old console games for GB, NES, SNES, N64 etc., they aren't actually licensed by the platform owners (Nintendo, Sega, etc.).
Meaning, unlike their games for current systems (PS4, Switch, PS Vita), these console re-releases aren't official. So for collecting purposes, they have little to no value. Even completionists who try to collect complete game libraries don't need them.

I'm interested because I love me some Monkey Island.  I see they're doing this for Rebel Assault on Sega CD too.  I assume the same would go for someone who is a fan of that game.  They already know the collectors are going to buy up most of their stock anyway.

Dunno if I'm going to get the Sega CD MI set anyway with them saying a PC re-release is coming later on.

I've tried replaying Rebel Assault on Sega CD recently and it's borderline unplayable now, as in it's damn near impossible to see where you need to move or shoot at.  I have no idea how I was able to 1CC it back in the day, especially since I was usually under the influence of heavy psychedelics.

Impressive!

That's gotta be one of the worst, if not the worst version of the game, too. 
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on February 21, 2020, 03:23:25 PM
Not sure why anyone who collects games would buy these reprints. While they are legal (because LRG obtains the rights to do them from the companies who currently own the rights), just like LRG's other reprints of old console games for GB, NES, SNES, N64 etc., they aren't actually licensed by the platform owners (Nintendo, Sega, etc.).
Meaning, unlike their games for current systems (PS4, Switch, PS Vita), these console re-releases aren't official. So for collecting purposes, they have little to no value. Even completionists who try to collect complete game libraries don't need them.

I'm interested because I love me some Monkey Island.  I see they're doing this for Rebel Assault on Sega CD too.  I assume the same would go for someone who is a fan of that game.  They already know the collectors are going to buy up most of their stock anyway.

Dunno if I'm going to get the Sega CD MI set anyway with them saying a PC re-release is coming later on.

I've tried replaying Rebel Assault on Sega CD recently and it's borderline unplayable now, as in it's damn near impossible to see where you need to move or shoot at.  I have no idea how I was able to 1CC it back in the day, especially since I was usually under the influence of heavy psychedelics.

Impressive!

That's gotta be one of the worst, if not the worst version of the game, too.

Shockingly a lot of Sega CD versions of games aren't that great now.  I've gotten the 25th anniversary remasters of some of the FMV games like Night Trap and Corpse Killer and I enjoy them, but going back to the original versions is terrible.  I have no idea how I was able to play those games back then.  Even shitty Hong Kong bootlegs on Video CD have better AV quality.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Shuri on February 22, 2020, 10:31:21 AM
Unfortunately yeah, Sega CD fmv stuff is aging terribly. 3DO fmv games are still perfectly fine.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 22, 2020, 11:50:12 AM
If I remember right, the Sega CD's disc drive was incredibly slow [and it had a really limited color palette], so video sequences ended up being choppy and grainy.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: a slime appears on February 22, 2020, 12:23:33 PM
Not sure why anyone who collects games would buy these reprints. While they are legal (because LRG obtains the rights to do them from the companies who currently own the rights), just like LRG's other reprints of old console games for GB, NES, SNES, N64 etc., they aren't actually licensed by the platform owners (Nintendo, Sega, etc.).
Meaning, unlike their games for current systems (PS4, Switch, PS Vita), these console re-releases aren't official. So for collecting purposes, they have little to no value. Even completionists who try to collect complete game libraries don't need them.

Or maybe people just like buying old games so they can play them on original hardware?

Fuck collectors who buy games just because "they're valuable." That mentality is driving game prices out the ass and ruining the market.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on February 22, 2020, 12:35:42 PM
Nothing beats an original (tm)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 22, 2020, 12:41:33 PM
Not sure why anyone who collects games would buy these reprints. While they are legal (because LRG obtains the rights to do them from the companies who currently own the rights), just like LRG's other reprints of old console games for GB, NES, SNES, N64 etc., they aren't actually licensed by the platform owners (Nintendo, Sega, etc.).
Meaning, unlike their games for current systems (PS4, Switch, PS Vita), these console re-releases aren't official. So for collecting purposes, they have little to no value. Even completionists who try to collect complete game libraries don't need them.

Or maybe people just like buying old games so they can play them on original hardware?

Fuck collectors who buy games just because "they're valuable." That mentality is driving game prices out the ass and ruining the market.

Drag 'em, king.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Kunai With Chain on February 22, 2020, 12:41:34 PM
Not sure why anyone who collects games would buy these reprints. While they are legal (because LRG obtains the rights to do them from the companies who currently own the rights), just like LRG's other reprints of old console games for GB, NES, SNES, N64 etc., they aren't actually licensed by the platform owners (Nintendo, Sega, etc.).
Meaning, unlike their games for current systems (PS4, Switch, PS Vita), these console re-releases aren't official. So for collecting purposes, they have little to no value. Even completionists who try to collect complete game libraries don't need them.

Or maybe people just like buying old games so they can play them on original hardware?

Fuck collectors who buy games just because "they're valuable." That mentality is driving game prices out the ass and ruining the market.

I get where you are coming from, but at that point why not just buy a replica or a multicart if you only want to play it on the original hardware?
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: a slime appears on February 22, 2020, 12:46:07 PM
Hey if that's what you want to do then awesome. No judgement, man. Enjoy retro however you want you fucking stud.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: a slime appears on February 22, 2020, 12:52:18 PM
Speaking of which this is incredible:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j11SgTcagMY


God bless Sega and the Saturn.
:salute
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Chooky on February 22, 2020, 02:57:05 PM
Sega CD was worse and more pointless than the 32X


noooooo no fucking way. Sega cd had a fair amount of genuinely great games, some of which are still ported today. 32x had like 30 games and the best of those were ports. all the original games fucking sucked. SUCKED
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 22, 2020, 04:10:48 PM
Speaking of which this is incredible:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j11SgTcagMY


God bless Sega and the Saturn.
:salute

This needs to hurry up and get released.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on February 22, 2020, 04:17:04 PM
Only thing that's allowed to straddle a Genesis, is a Master System Power base Converter.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/Sega-Genesis-Power-Base-Converter.jpg)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on February 22, 2020, 04:59:26 PM
The Genesis only had so many holes for such a train.  Tower of Power fo life.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Occam on February 22, 2020, 07:13:57 PM
Not sure why anyone who collects games would buy these reprints. While they are legal (because LRG obtains the rights to do them from the companies who currently own the rights), just like LRG's other reprints of old console games for GB, NES, SNES, N64 etc., they aren't actually licensed by the platform owners (Nintendo, Sega, etc.).
Meaning, unlike their games for current systems (PS4, Switch, PS Vita), these console re-releases aren't official. So for collecting purposes, they have little to no value. Even completionists who try to collect complete game libraries don't need them.

Or maybe people just like buying old games so they can play them on original hardware?

Fuck collectors who buy games just because "they're valuable." That mentality is driving game prices out the ass and ruining the market.

I get where you are coming from, but at that point why not just buy a replica or a multicart if you only want to play it on the original hardware?

Exactly, or in this case, burn a CD.
Limited Run Games is producing these, erm, let's call them "reprints" to sell  to collectors who aren't exactly thinking things through. They are about as valuable as a reprint of Action Comics #1. They are not collector's items. So the people they are aimed at really should not be buying them at all.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Chooky on February 22, 2020, 07:34:53 PM
32X also sucked. At least with the 32X you could put Genesis games into it.






(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/Sega-Genesis-Model-2-Monster-Bare.jpg/1024px-Sega-Genesis-Model-2-Monster-Bare.jpg)


 :lol :lol :lol this hunk of shit

:lol i still got mine. i'll never hook it up again (three ac adapters wtf) but at this point it's staying with me til i die. long live my legacy of bad choices
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on February 22, 2020, 09:10:33 PM
Sega CD was worse and more pointless than the 32X

Fuck no - Snatcher, the superior version of Lunar, Shining Force CD, Robo Aleste, Popful Mail, Android Assault, Soulstar, Keio Flying Squadron, Space Adventure Cobra, and to a lesser extent, Vay and Dark Wizard beg to differ. 32x was a garbage fire, I reckon Tempo is the only decent original game.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 22, 2020, 10:05:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2oyweqZ7WM

:girlaff
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 22, 2020, 10:06:45 PM
https://youtu.be/BgwkEteNgOg?list=PLvRROtFJfdLpK-ps0hxPjeKyP7yp8t_5j

:jeb
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Shuri on February 22, 2020, 10:14:06 PM
I know several collectors IRL who have complet sealed sets of those LRG games.  They just have them on shelves, never to be opened. When I see them for sales on the aftermarket, the great majority of them are still sealed.

They’re just commodities being used as future flip fodder to fund purchases of godawful cib nes/snes/n64 rareties.

80% of LRG releases are total trash too.

I’m just glad those idiots are wasting their funds on lrg/switch shit while leaving neo-geo/arcade/saturn/pc engine stuff to me.




 
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Occam on February 23, 2020, 03:57:37 AM
I don't mind LRG's modern releases. But buying unlicensed reprints of old games for "collecting" is a bridge too far for me.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on February 23, 2020, 11:30:12 AM
I'll only buy a limited run if it's a game I really wanna play... i.e. Cosmic Star Heroine or Darius Burst. No interest in having sealed games sitting on my shelf.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Shuri on February 23, 2020, 02:00:27 PM
am I the only person to have enjoyed Road Avenger? I even got the Sega Saturn remaster.

Another game I bought last year, the amazing Night Striker S, for the Sega Saturn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc_qWvq9508
The soundtrack is fucking awesome, the gameplay is fun (if a bit easy? I recommend cracking up the difficulty level).
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Chooky on February 23, 2020, 07:53:06 PM
fmv games were garbage, but road avenger and time gal were the exceptions
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on February 23, 2020, 09:12:09 PM
I'll only buy a limited run if it's a game I really wanna play... i.e. Cosmic Star Heroine or Darius Burst. No interest in having sealed games sitting on my shelf.

I collect, but generally only to have physical copies of games I have played or want to play.  For me the main reason most of them stay sealed is because I already have a digital copy, lol- a lot of those titles get physical releases a while after the digital versions.

The one game I can think of that seems to have only come out as a limited physical production run release is Ultracore (the game included with the Mega SG).  Unless I've missed something, it's not on any digital storefronts.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on February 23, 2020, 09:29:58 PM
I am playing the first "Glory of Heracles" game on NES (Heracles no Eikou) and it's pretty funny how this game works (precursor to Dead Rising / BoF Dragon Quarter system?).

- No Battery Saves. Only Password (save states baby)
- The password doesn't actually save your "progress" but instead carries over your current level and items.
- Make progress, but decide to stop and write your password? All of your progress is gone! Go kill those bosses again
- The goal of the game is the do the 12 heroic labors of Hercules (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labours_of_Hercules)
- The game is open-ended (you can literally go anywhere you want - unless you don't have X item). Of course, some areas and dungeons have stronger enemies than others.
- The game is very "hint" specific so you need to talk to anyone and write down everything they say.
- The game has a durability system!
- You can actually sell "key items" and if you do, you have to do the quest again to get it back.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on February 24, 2020, 09:03:37 AM
I bought a 32X at launch.  I was going to college in a tiny town in Iowa and had to bum a ride to the "big city" of Cedar Rapids to pay $190 to get it.

 :point

I liked the FMV games back in the day.  I got the PS4 remasters of Night Trap, Corpse Killer, and Double Switch and had fun with them, especially Corpse Killer.  The video quality on Sega CD stuff is garbage now, and that is from someone that has watched hundreds of movies on Video CD format.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on February 24, 2020, 09:20:58 AM
It was garbage video quality back then, too- but it was the cheapest way to play CD games so nobody really cared at the time.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on February 24, 2020, 09:23:16 AM
"Sega CD...  Have the game AND the soundtrack altogether.!.. (just don't play that first track on a conventional CD player)"
 :rejoice
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on February 24, 2020, 09:48:51 AM
I bought the PS4 versions of Night Trap and Double Switch, didn't get Corpse Killer though
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on February 24, 2020, 09:50:12 AM
It was garbage video quality back then, too- but it was the cheapest way to play CD games so nobody really cared at the time.

I'm sure you're right.  I used to take what Joe Rogan (I know, PROBLEMATIC~!) calls a "heroic" amount of mushrooms and that 320 x 280 video was fucking mind-blowing.  I also wasted a 5 day weekend with the Sega CD version of FIFA because the real chants in surround sound were revolutionary, or at least it sounded like it.

 :lucas

"Sega CD...  Have the game AND the soundtrack altogether.!.. (just don't play that first track on a conventional CD player)"
 :rejoice

My Sega CD was my CD player.

 :picard

I bought the PS4 versions of Night Trap and Double Switch, didn't get Corpse Killer though

It's still pretty fun despite not using an actual light gun.  They added some new zombies and levels.  Plus this fine lass in HD.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/UvpvK62c9W4/hqdefault.jpg)

 :money
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rman on February 24, 2020, 10:12:53 AM
I did LRG once. I'm glad they exist, but I'm so in the digital workflow these days.  Changing disks or carts is just so archaic to me.  I also hate looking at shelves full of games. 

Hardback books, vinyl records, etc. All look way better media-wise.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on February 24, 2020, 10:20:22 AM
Who reads books these days when we have audiobooks where people read for us? Ha ha so archaic

Vinyl ha ha ever heard of an iPod? So archaic
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on February 24, 2020, 10:27:35 AM
I also hate looking at shelves full of games. 

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/430077b88c2ff64c55da2d112570bfb7/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Chooky on February 24, 2020, 10:59:19 AM
after moving like five times in the last seven years i can confidently say that i fucking hate having a big physical collection too. it's nice to pull out some old games that i love and play them for awhile and look over the manuals and stuff. but having games that I'll never touch again, or newer games that are just a case with a disc? no thanks, that's a waste of space.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on February 24, 2020, 11:12:33 AM
well stop moving five times over seven years. what are you, a gypsy?
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on February 24, 2020, 11:24:53 AM
after moving like five times in the last seven years i can confidently say that i fucking hate having a big physical collection too. it's nice to pull out some old games that i love and play them for awhile and look over the manuals and stuff. but having games that I'll never touch again, or newer games that are just a case with a disc? no thanks, that's a waste of space.

I moved like six times within about the same amount of time, before finally buying a home, and it wasn't particularly difficult or time-consuming to put the games into some boxes and seal them up for the moves.

:idont
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Chooky on February 24, 2020, 03:38:53 PM
after moving like five times in the last seven years i can confidently say that i fucking hate having a big physical collection too. it's nice to pull out some old games that i love and play them for awhile and look over the manuals and stuff. but having games that I'll never touch again, or newer games that are just a case with a disc? no thanks, that's a waste of space.

I moved like six times within about the same amount of time, before finally buying a home, and it wasn't particularly difficult or time-consuming to put the games into some boxes and seal them up for the moves.

:idont

 :camby it's different when you can pay movers to carry all that shit for you ya rich so and so


well stop moving five times over seven years. what are you, a gypsy?

going thru marriage and then divorce will do it
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on February 24, 2020, 10:22:26 PM
:camby it's different when you can pay movers to carry all that shit for you ya rich so and so

They weren't all with movers.
:bolo
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 25, 2020, 04:06:50 AM
I bought a really sticky-feeling Virtua Stick 2 years ago for 500 yen, cleaned it up / oiled the stick, and was loving it. Before I moved to Japan I got rid of a bunch of stuff and flipped it for $100, thinking "oh yeah I can get another one of those whenever I feel like it."

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/dS8AAOSwxkpeJG8B/s-l500.jpg)

LIKE HELL. Took me forever but finally got a beautiful, beautiful replacement in box. Will break it in tonight playing SAKURA WARS, THE ENGLISH VERSION on my Sega Saturn via Framemeister (still haven't found a good CRT in Japan yet).

(https://segaretro.org/images/d/d1/VirtuaStickPro_1.jpg)
OTOH one of these fuckers is on sale way out in the boonies. It's been there for ages and it's not priced to move at 40,000 yen. Kind of yellowed but you bet your ass I'd Retrobrite it. I feel like I should get it since I had to give away my beautiful Astro City cab when I left  :stahp
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on February 25, 2020, 07:16:26 AM
https://www.siliconera.com/madou-monogatari-i-has-been-fan-translated-into-english/
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on February 25, 2020, 07:25:44 AM
LIKE HELL. Took me forever but finally got a beautiful, beautiful replacement in box. Will break it in tonight playing SAKURA WARS, THE ENGLISH VERSION on my Sega Saturn via Framemeister (still haven't found a good CRT in Japan yet).

What's your method of choice for playing English translations directly on your Saturn?
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 25, 2020, 08:50:48 AM
Pseudosaturn works pretty good, from what I understand.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 25, 2020, 12:30:21 PM
LIKE HELL. Took me forever but finally got a beautiful, beautiful replacement in box. Will break it in tonight playing SAKURA WARS, THE ENGLISH VERSION on my Sega Saturn via Framemeister (still haven't found a good CRT in Japan yet).

What's your method of choice for playing English translations directly on your Saturn?

Yeah, I'm on Pseudosaturn Kai as well.

Hey, did you know that Sakura Wars is actually a bad harem VN, I've just made this horrifying discovery myself
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 25, 2020, 12:39:30 PM
LIKE HELL. Took me forever but finally got a beautiful, beautiful replacement in box. Will break it in tonight playing SAKURA WARS, THE ENGLISH VERSION on my Sega Saturn via Framemeister (still haven't found a good CRT in Japan yet).

What's your method of choice for playing English translations directly on your Saturn?

Yeah, I'm on Pseudosaturn Kai as well.

Hey, did you know that Sakura Wars is actually a bad harem VN, I've just made this horrifying discovery myself

Oh yeah, bro, Sakura Wars is all about getting them waifus.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bluemax on February 27, 2020, 10:27:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1OXgCmOvbQ
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on February 28, 2020, 10:08:00 AM
LRG Star Wars and Monkey Island Sega CD releases are up!

Decided to pass on Monkey Island and wait to see how they handle the PC re-release.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rman on February 28, 2020, 06:44:22 PM
https://www.analogue.co/

New Analouge NT mini run. So damn pricey, though.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on March 01, 2020, 06:32:54 PM
I am playing the first "Glory of Heracles" game on NES (Heracles no Eikou) and it's pretty funny how this game works (precursor to Dead Rising / BoF Dragon Quarter system?).

- No Battery Saves. Only Password (save states baby)
- The password doesn't actually save your "progress" but instead carries over your current level and items.
- Make progress, but decide to stop and write your password? All of your progress is gone! Go kill those bosses again
- The goal of the game is the do the 12 heroic labors of Hercules (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labours_of_Hercules)
- The game is open-ended (you can literally go anywhere you want - unless you don't have X item). Of course, some areas and dungeons have stronger enemies than others.
- The game is very "hint" specific so you need to talk to anyone and write down everything they say.
- The game has a durability system!
- You can actually sell "key items" and if you do, you have to do the quest again to get it back.

I just finished this game. I honestly wouldnt recommend it, I just really wanted to try it out. I used a guide the whole time.

Anyway,

- You can actually run away from "boss encounters" and majority of them aren't required unless they have an item you need for progression.
- Since you always get first action (unless the rare time you don't), you can just run away from pretty much every encounter (sometimes you get blocked - but this is also pretty rare).
- Around 3/4 in the game you access the Pyramids, which have a certain enemy that you can pretty much kill in 1-2 hits, and it gives you the most XP in the entire game. You can use this spot to grind up to pretty much max level in about an hour. Since you can run from every enemy first turn, you can just wait until you get this enemy and grind.
- Similarly there is an area (Amazonia) where there are enemies that drop a shitload of cash. At one point in the game you need 10000 to buy an item required.
- Even if you beat the final boss, if you don't have a specific item, you literally cannot beat the game. Imagine finally beating this boss, only to find out you don't have the item to win. Unfortunate
- The encounter rate is [terrible]. There seems to be a way to manipulate it, but sometimes it's just terrible no excuse.

I will try out the second game, which definitely seems more "traditional" dragon quest and hopefully not as "open ended"
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Occam on March 02, 2020, 12:03:40 AM
Thank you for your sacrifice. But why? This seems like a not fun way to spend your time.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on March 02, 2020, 12:16:36 AM
I host a forum for disillusioned adults to post their dick, dont worry how my time is spent
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Occam on March 02, 2020, 12:29:30 AM
I was really just wondering if you actually enjoyed it, because you made it sound awful/like a chore.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on March 02, 2020, 12:31:56 AM
If I didnt just use a guide I would have given up immediately. It was just general curiosity. The later entries look way better. I always wanted to check out the series since theres quite a few games released
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Occam on March 02, 2020, 12:39:28 AM
The later games actually look interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8wi8hrCp3Y
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on March 02, 2020, 12:46:59 AM
Video does a pretty terrible job but it shows how much better the later games are. I briefly played the second game earlier today and it definitely is more "dragon quest" than the first game. Better visuals, better music. I will try to avoid using a guide when I can.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on March 10, 2020, 11:31:00 AM
https://twitter.com/LimitedRunGames/status/1237379754657005568
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tuckers Law on March 10, 2020, 02:00:20 PM
$40 more for the “physical” edition and it doesn’t even have the actual game on physical discs, just a download code.

 :iface

Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Occam on March 10, 2020, 03:24:51 PM
$40 more for the “physical” edition and it doesn’t even have the actual game on physical discs, just a download code.

 :iface

That's hilariously awful. You have to be pretty special to support this.  "Forever physical"

If those unlicensed reprints of old console games weren't LRG's jump-the-shark moment, this definitely is.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on March 10, 2020, 04:39:42 PM
$40 more for the “physical” edition and it doesn’t even have the actual game on physical discs, just a download code.

 :iface

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESwef_aXYAADP1Q?format=jpg&name=large)

:trumps

Certainly makes me think I probably won't bother with Monkey Island PC if this is what they're gonna do with that release.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tuckers Law on March 10, 2020, 04:41:51 PM
I immediately assumed that EA would be the culprit for not having a playable physical copy of the game, it would be extra stupid if they didn’t care and it was LRG that made the decision.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: MMaRsu on March 13, 2020, 01:51:59 PM
mi pc rerelease what?
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 04, 2020, 03:26:08 AM
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchpage.jsp?st=IAM8BIT

Best Buy is selling licensed repro carts now I guess. $100 tho, lol.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on May 04, 2020, 03:36:47 AM
Colored cartridges :disgust
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: MMaRsu on May 04, 2020, 06:20:52 AM
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchpage.jsp?st=IAM8BIT

Best Buy is selling licensed repro carts now I guess. $100 tho, lol.

What the fuck  :lol
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on May 04, 2020, 09:29:49 AM
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchpage.jsp?st=IAM8BIT

Best Buy is selling licensed repro carts now I guess. $100 tho, lol.

What the fuck  :lol

Yeah.  $99 for REPROS.  That's where we're at now.  :lol :rofl
:mindblown


These are supposed to be "limited edition" production runs, too.  Yet now Iam8bit is distributing to Best Buy?  LOL.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on May 04, 2020, 10:31:47 AM
$124 with tax/shipping  :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcxLo6U-DtI

Asks himself why he bothered and complains throughout the video that he paid too much for it.   :doge
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: nachobro on May 04, 2020, 10:34:28 AM
"rare" :lol
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on May 04, 2020, 10:39:47 AM
"rare" :lol

Whatever you can do to get those clicks.  :brain

Haven't looked at that dude's channel in a couple of years since he's generally pretty annoying.  I see now he moved to talking in front of a green screen and just posts thumbnails of himself with the same expression on top of every video.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: nachobro on May 04, 2020, 10:42:57 AM
i barely understand why someone would buy a repro to begin with, much less a $100 repro lmao
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on May 04, 2020, 04:36:40 PM
One of the side-ventures I want to start is like, extremely limited runs of replica GameBoy carts for recent GB homebrew games. I bought a cartridge reader-writer to explore this a bit.

I figured such a thing might be able to sustain itself if the games were $40-50. (I mean, if I *just* shipped cartridges instead of box/manual/labels/etc., could probably get away with $10-20 per.) I understand the "collector" aspect and licensing is pushing those costs higher, but yeah... $99 for ugly cartridges of games everyone already owns does not sound like a winner.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on May 04, 2020, 04:38:09 PM
i barely understand why someone would buy a repro to begin with, much less a $100 repro lmao

If you're not a collector but still want to buy cartridges there's nothing wrong with repros. The save situation on repro carts is also usually far better (FRAM instead of watch batteries) and obviously, something newly-manufactured is going to look a lot better on average than something old and used.

The big benefit of repros though is their low cost, which this completely misses. :lol
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Occam on May 04, 2020, 05:22:48 PM
Repros have zero collector's value, anybody can make more at any time.
Anyone who is not a moron and just wants to play the games on the original hardware should simply get a flash cartridge.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on May 04, 2020, 05:39:32 PM
Discrete cartridges have their uses.

I don't enjoy being called a moron.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Occam on May 04, 2020, 05:58:59 PM
That wasn't aimed at you, but rather anyone who would pay $100 for a repro.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on May 04, 2020, 07:08:47 PM
Nonapology not accepted.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: nachobro on May 04, 2020, 08:35:34 PM
If you're not a collector but still want to buy cartridges there's nothing wrong with repros. The save situation on repro carts is also usually far better (FRAM instead of watch batteries) and obviously, something newly-manufactured is going to look a lot better on average than something old and used.

The big benefit of repros though is their low cost, which this completely misses. :lol
fair enough. for me its more the thought process of "if its not original than just get an everdrive or something similar at that point". but for the cheap ones i understand it a lot more than a "collector's repro"

i'm also not a collector, i just want to play the game. so it's a different mindset entirely. kinda why i like the nes/snes classic though. neat little object, controllers that feel good, and i can put every game on them
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 04, 2020, 09:18:04 PM
I've considered buying a few Saturn repros [since they're about $40 compared to hundreds of dollars for the real deal], but I haven't gotten around to it yet. Charging $100+ for a repro is insane, though.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on May 05, 2020, 01:02:52 AM
i barely understand why someone would buy a repro to begin with, much less a $100 repro lmao

I've seen some extremely well-done repros (mostly of fan-translated games) with detailed instruction books and 'feelies' included.

A lot of Turbo fanboys hate them, but I think PCE Works does a really nice job on repros. Including some games with never-before-seen English translations. (As an aside: Out of the myriad obscure gaming subcultures, rabid Turbo fanboys may be one of the strangest)
https://pceworks.wordpress.com/2014/11/13/pce-memories-ii/ (https://pceworks.wordpress.com/2014/11/13/pce-memories-ii/)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on May 05, 2020, 08:37:20 AM
Yeah you can buy fan-translated N64 Animal Forest cartridges which is pretty damn amazing.

(https://i.imgur.com/FDeOsau.jpg)

https://www.etsy.com/listing/793588443/animal-crossing-video-games-cartridge
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Occam on May 05, 2020, 09:24:12 AM
That's great, but it's not a reproduction; it never existed back in the day.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on May 05, 2020, 09:37:01 AM
:social2

First member to go on my ignore list ever. Congrats.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Occam on May 05, 2020, 10:09:00 AM
Weaksauce.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: nachobro on May 05, 2020, 10:22:07 AM
calls someone else weak, edits his posts like a little bitch :lol

fuccboi occam :lol
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Occam on May 05, 2020, 10:26:21 AM
Nah, that was the adult thing to do. I put him on ignore, too, but then decided against it, hence the edit.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on May 05, 2020, 10:28:25 AM
Don't worry Occam I agree with you. Down with repros
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on May 26, 2020, 09:09:23 AM
https://www.retrorgb.com/new-saturn-castlevania-sotn-improvement-hack-utilizes-the-4mb-ram-cart-for-fast-loading-smoother-animations-and-more.html

:leon
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Positive Touch on May 26, 2020, 11:17:32 AM
neat, but the notes say all this does is fix load times and slowdown. the terrible transparencies and tinny sound quality will still be there. still neat for anyone that wants to give this version a shot, but the psp/ps4 version is the best since it added most stuff from the Saturn version but is ps1 fidelity.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on May 27, 2020, 12:42:40 AM
Quote
Now, Phantasy Star Retranslation version 2.0 (from the same folks, along with newcomer Damien Guard) brings a yet more polished English script along with a bevy of much-appreciated quality-of-life improvements. Below the new sound test menu you’ll find options to increase Alis’ Alisa’s walking speed, XP and money multipliers, an option to reduce battle frequency, and cosmetic choices for hair color and font.

https://www.smspower.org/Translations/PhantasyStar-SMS-EN

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/fusqijw8aiaeoawb03in.png)

https://kotaku.com/new-phantasy-star-english-patch-was-14-years-in-the-mak-1843690662
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on May 27, 2020, 08:06:53 AM
Mad Stalker, a new Mega Drive game, is coming out in September:

https://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1254998.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLSVLXWrMxo
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on May 27, 2020, 09:18:45 AM
I've played that game on X68000 before, it's p.cool.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on May 27, 2020, 12:06:07 PM
I've played that game on X68000 before, it's p.cool.

I see it got a PS1 remake, too.
:leon

And it sells for ridiculous prices.  Imma try a rom or something.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on May 27, 2020, 08:21:07 PM
Mad Stalker has a DOPE fuckin soundtrack
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 16, 2020, 05:15:03 AM
Been playing the original Phantasy Star on the switch. The Sega Ages one has an option to speed up the walk speed and has a map system. Don't have to get out the graph paper for this one.

They also have an Ages mode where the experience gain and money gain is upped, so you don't spend hours grinding. Getting close to the end of the game.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on June 18, 2020, 09:01:34 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=106&v=05-mgAqUO-o&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on June 18, 2020, 09:18:13 AM
So the TL;DR version of that video is fanboy ranting.  He says they released "filler" games while showing Sonic 2.  :doge 

I would like to see official M2-ported versions of more arcade games past the 16-bit era, but licensing does get in the way with some of them and there's always emulators if not.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on June 18, 2020, 09:23:54 AM
So the TL;DR version of that video is fanboy ranting.  He says they released "filler" games while showing Sonic 2.  :doge 

I would like to see official M2-ported versions of more arcade games past the 16-bit era, but licensing does get in the way with some of them and there's always emulators if not.
It is ranting, but I agree with him.  I don't understand why Sega just doesn't give a shit about at least porting things to most available systems.  Like Phantasy Star 1 Remake (Sega Ages).  Why is this only on the Switch?... A system geared for young children that don't give 2 shits about Phantasy Star (or even know what it is)?  Why is it not on PS4, PC and even Android?  Simply doesn't compute for me.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on June 18, 2020, 09:35:55 AM
It is ranting, but I agree with him.  I don't understand why Sega just doesn't give a shit about at least porting things to most available systems. 

Oh, that's a different thing.  Yeah, I don't get that either.  You'd think they'd release these games on every platform under the sun, but they did the same thing with their 3DS releases too.

Like Phantasy Star 1 Remake (Sega Ages).  Why is this only on the Switch?... A system geared for young children that don't give 2 shits about Phantasy Star (or even know what it is)?  Why is it not on PS4, PC and even Android?  Simply doesn't compute for me.

The Switch isn't geared for young children, lol.  It's for all ages.  And in Japan, where these games are being made and released first, it is now the most popular (console) platform out there.  And that's great and all...but it still doesn't explain the lack of multiplatform releases.

But hey, this is another reason for you to GIVE IN and get a Switch.  :P
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on June 18, 2020, 09:43:44 AM
But hey, this is another reason for you to GIVE IN and get a Switch.  :P
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/0008a11cf07e70bca25a41e59fc75094/tenor.gif)
Not at the prices they're still going for.  They're more than half the price of what a PS5 will be. :smug  ;)
spoiler (click to show/hide)
:betty
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Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on June 18, 2020, 10:19:13 AM
 :killme
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on June 18, 2020, 11:21:39 AM
Why bother with Sega Ages when there's this patch instead

http://www.romhacking.net/translations/1069/
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Nintex on June 18, 2020, 12:14:13 PM
SEGA making bad business decisions is entirely on brand for them.

They had like 2 or 3 good Genesis/MegaDrive years and were always lagging behind or were outgunned outside of that.
Sega fans should respect the mediocrity as that is what the brand stands for.  :lol
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on June 18, 2020, 12:54:19 PM
SEGA making bad business decisions is entirely on brand for them.

They had like 2 or 3 good Genesis/MegaDrive years and were always lagging behind or were outgunned outside of that.
Sega fans should respect the mediocrity as that is what the brand stands for.  :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9O94UTDAJQ
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on June 18, 2020, 01:01:11 PM
Why bother with Sega Ages when there's this patch instead

http://www.romhacking.net/translations/1069/
I did get that patch, and it's pretty awesome... but I like teh update grafixes and watching the hind quarters of Alise swinging that sword.   :ohyeah

Now I'm learning about Generation 2.. Why did I not know this existed?! And why is it not ported to anything decent either?!?  :snoop
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on June 18, 2020, 02:01:57 PM
So the TL;DR version of that video is fanboy ranting.  He says they released "filler" games while showing Sonic 2.  :doge 

I would like to see official M2-ported versions of more arcade games past the 16-bit era, but licensing does get in the way with some of them and there's always emulators if not.

SLX has some other cool videos, I love when he does Master System deep dives.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on June 18, 2020, 06:55:12 PM
Ultracore, the "lost" Genesis run n' gun action game from the 90s, is finally getting a digital release.  Previously it was only released as a physical limited production run title from Strictly Limited Games and playable on the Analog Mega SG.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNynvreoWDg
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on June 18, 2020, 08:50:42 PM
Those floating blue chips remind me of Strider 2 and Forgotten Worlds.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on June 19, 2020, 08:40:15 AM
Namco has trotted out yet another couple of Namco Museum releases for $19.99 each on PSN.  I'm asusmin gthey are out on other systems as well.

Volume 1

Galaxian, Pac-Man, Xevious, Mappy, Dig Dug, The Tower of Druaga, Sky Kid, Dragon Buster, Dragon Spirit: The New Legend, Splatterhouse: Wanpaku Graffiti, and Pac-Man Championship Edition

Volume 2

Galaga, Battle City, Pac-Land, Dig Dug II, Super Xevious, Mappy-Land, Legacy of the Wizard, Rolling Thunder, Dragon Buster II, Mendel Palace, and Gaplus

There are regular and 8-bit "demastered" versions for Gaplus and Pac Man CE.

If these were all on one for $20 and it included the arcade version of Splatterhouse, I might bite.  $40 for 20 retro games that have already been released dozens of times (including some on PS4) is way too much IMO.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on June 19, 2020, 09:14:35 AM
I think they're all Famicom versions and not arcade.   
 :donot

They also announced volumes 3 and 4 already.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on June 19, 2020, 10:01:37 AM
I think they're all Famicom versions and not arcade.   
 :donot

They also announced volumes 3 and 4 already.

Holy shit, you're right.  $40 for 20 NES ROMs, WTF???  Most of those were ok for the time, but they have not aged well and are not very good versions of the arcade games.  Another shit cash grab from Namco.

 :paul
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on June 20, 2020, 05:52:24 PM
Yoinked this lot off CraigsList for $20

(https://images.craigslist.org/00p0p_eqcDc9xQ6V0_0CI0t2_600x450.jpg)

G-Darius alone goes for ~50 the rest is just fodder
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: BisMarckie on June 20, 2020, 06:05:43 PM
That controller is the epitome of shitty 2nd controllers you hand to your friends. :aah
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Shuri on June 21, 2020, 01:26:31 PM
Picked up Street Fighter 30th Anniversary on ps4, it's a pretty neat compilation, online is fun when you get people with a nice connection. I suck at Street Fighter Alpha, wow.

I'm also way too used to playing SF2 on IL Eurosticks, it feels strange to play SF2 with my rap4 ps4 stick. It's just so lite!
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 22, 2020, 10:04:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxKYAiuOSbY

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1147940/3dSen_PC/
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on July 08, 2020, 07:08:24 PM
https://kotaku.com/the-designer-of-the-nes-dishes-the-dirt-on-nintendos-ea-1844296906

Some amazing nuggets in here.

Quote
Kotaku: How did the Famicom project come about?

Uemura: It started with a phone call in 1981. President Yamauchi told me to make a video game system, one that could play games on cartridges. He always liked to call me after he’d had a few drinks, so I didn’t think much of it. I just said, “Sure thing, boss,” and hung up. It wasn’t until the next morning when he came up to me, sober, and said, “That thing we talked about—you’re on it?” that it hit me: He was serious.

:dead To be fair this is the dude that bought a baseball team then never went to a single game.

Quote
Kotaku: How did you analyze rivals’ game consoles?

Uemura: I had a semiconductor manufacturer dissolve the plastic covering on the chips to expose the wiring underneath. I took pictures, blew them up, and looked at the circuitry to understand it. I had some experience with arcade games, and right away I knew that none of what I was looking at would be any help in designing a new home system. They simply didn’t have expressive enough graphics. They had a monopoly on patents for them, circuit structures and features such as scrolling. And they were simply old-fashioned. That’s why I couldn’t use anything from them.

Man to be around during the early pre-NES wild west day of consumer electronics and Nintendo... This is some Pirates of Silicon Valley cowboy shit, love it.

I guess more will be in the interviewers' book Pure Invention: How Japan’s Pop Culture Conquered the World later this year.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on July 08, 2020, 08:09:39 PM
Quote
Uemura: The colors [of the Famicom] were based on a scarf Yamauchi liked. True story.

:lol Still a classy aesthetic to this day, and oddly not very "toy-like" by modern standards (IMO.)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on July 20, 2020, 12:57:15 PM
Any recommendations for TurboGrafx/PC Engine CD games other than RPGs?

Also WTF is up with the PC Engine CD version of Golden Axe.  Like it starts out great with the cutscenes with excellent music.  But the game itself looks like a Commodore 64 conversion.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on July 20, 2020, 01:02:26 PM
Any recommendations for TurboGrafx/PC Engine CD games other than RPGs?

Also WTF is up with the PC Engine CD version of Golden Axe.  Like it starts out great with the cutscenes with excellent music.  But the game itself looks like a Commodore 64 conversion.
One of my personal favs on TG16, was Bloody Wolf.  At the time, it made me think of a mash up of Metal Gear and Contra.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on July 20, 2020, 04:28:51 PM
Any recommendations for TurboGrafx/PC Engine CD games other than RPGs?

Also WTF is up with the PC Engine CD version of Golden Axe.  Like it starts out great with the cutscenes with excellent music.  But the game itself looks like a Commodore 64 conversion.
One of my personal favs on TG16, was Bloody Wolf.  At the time, it made me think of a mash up of Metal Gear and Contra.

Yup, I like Bloody Wolf a lot.  Great soundtrack.  It's a card game though.

I did find Last Alert, which is in the same vein with a cheestastic English dub for the cutscenes.

The TGCD version of Madden is surprisingly good if you're into the 16 bit American football games.

There's also (not surprisingly) a lot of great shooters on the CD.  Forgotten Worlds and Side Arms along withe the Thunder games being my favorites so far.

The conversion of Strider is really good and adds in new cutscenes.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on July 20, 2020, 04:32:45 PM
Any recommendations for TurboGrafx/PC Engine CD games other than RPGs?

Also WTF is up with the PC Engine CD version of Golden Axe.  Like it starts out great with the cutscenes with excellent music.  But the game itself looks like a Commodore 64 conversion.
One of my personal favs on TG16, was Bloody Wolf.  At the time, it made me think of a mash up of Metal Gear and Contra.

Yup, I like Bloody Wolf a lot.  Great soundtrack.  It's a card game though.

I did find Last Alert, which is in the same vein with a cheestastic English dub for the cutscenes.

The TGCD version of Madden is surprisingly good if you're into the 16 bit American football games.

There's also (not surprisingly) a lot of great shooters on the CD.  Forgotten Worlds and Side Arms along withe the Thunder games being my favorites so far.

The conversion of Strider is really good and adds in new cutscenes.
Nice, I never knew Forgotten Worlds was on there.  Loved the Genesis one.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on July 20, 2020, 04:50:29 PM
Never played it, but Double Dragon 2 on PCE-CD is supposed to be an updated version of the NES version with added cutscenes and better visuals.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on July 20, 2020, 05:17:16 PM
I recently modded up my mini PlayStation with AutoBleem, which is stupid simple to setup.

You only really need two things:

1- A usb stick. I picked this 128GB but you could go higher or lower. 128 is more than enough for me.

https://amzn.to/30yqL3Z

2- An OTG cable, so you can plug it into the back port of the mini PlayStation along with power (this lets you use the USB port/stick to its full potential, the front ports are limited, and it frees up a controller spot).

https://amzn.to/3hlhOlq

From there all you basically do is drag and drop AutoBleem to the stick, then plug it into the front port, install AutoBleem's kernel (allows OTG and other stuff), then you can set up the USB (format it as NTFS etc) to use the OTG cable and just drag and drop your games.

The only real negative/drawback is being stuck with the original PS1 pad, but if you want to take the extra steps to use analog/other controllers you can.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on July 21, 2020, 07:10:43 AM
I recently modded up my mini PlayStation with AutoBleem, which is stupid simple to setup.

You only really need two things:

1- A usb stick. I picked this 128GB but you could go higher or lower. 128 is more than enough for me.

https://amzn.to/30yqL3Z

2- An OTG cable, so you can plug it into the back port of the mini PlayStation along with power (this lets you use the USB port/stick to its full potential, the front ports are limited, and it frees up a controller spot).

https://amzn.to/3hlhOlq

From there all you basically do is drag and drop AutoBleem to the stick, then plug it into the front port, install AutoBleem's kernel (allows OTG and other stuff), then you can set up the USB (format it as NTFS etc) to use the OTG cable and just drag and drop your games.

The only real negative/drawback is being stuck with the original PS1 pad, but if you want to take the extra steps to use analog/other controllers you can.

The PS Classic is my go-to right now for retro gaming.  Really easy to add more games and the hi-res option makes some of the PS games look really good.  You can also put on RetroArch and add more systems.  That's how I'm going through the Turbo/PC Engine Cd games now.  Just FYI I've found that SanDisk thumbdrives work way better than other brands, I'm not sure why.  Also Arcade Punks has a lot of cool front-ends and/or instructions on how to tweak it. 

Any recommendations for TurboGrafx/PC Engine CD games other than RPGs?

Also WTF is up with the PC Engine CD version of Golden Axe.  Like it starts out great with the cutscenes with excellent music.  But the game itself looks like a Commodore 64 conversion.
One of my personal favs on TG16, was Bloody Wolf.  At the time, it made me think of a mash up of Metal Gear and Contra.

Yup, I like Bloody Wolf a lot.  Great soundtrack.  It's a card game though.

I did find Last Alert, which is in the same vein with a cheestastic English dub for the cutscenes.

The TGCD version of Madden is surprisingly good if you're into the 16 bit American football games.

There's also (not surprisingly) a lot of great shooters on the CD.  Forgotten Worlds and Side Arms along withe the Thunder games being my favorites so far.

The conversion of Strider is really good and adds in new cutscenes.
Nice, I never knew Forgotten Worlds was on there.  Loved the Genesis one.

The Genesis version is one of my favorite games ever.  It's pretty much why I bought a Genesis at launch, because I saw a picture of it in a EGM preview.  But the TGCD version is technically much better.  It has all of the levels from the arcade, better graphics (especially the bosses) plus all of the voice overs and an excellent remixed music score.

Never played it, but Double Rragon 2 on PCE-CD is supposed to be an updated version of the NES version with added cutscenes and better visuals.

Played it yesterday.  it's really good!  Also Riot Zone is a solid beat em up with an awesome cock rock soundtrack that features an early version of Axel from Streets of Rage.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on July 21, 2020, 09:32:13 AM
Any recommendations for TurboGrafx/PC Engine CD games other than RPGs?

Also WTF is up with the PC Engine CD version of Golden Axe.  Like it starts out great with the cutscenes with excellent music.  But the game itself looks like a Commodore 64 conversion.

For shooters, there's Cotton, Terraforming, and Metamor Jupiter. The first 2 actually got a US release. There's also the Valis titles, Fausette Armor for action/platforming.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Nintex on August 22, 2020, 08:13:56 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKMHpwDfzFQ

Impressive that it runs all those games  :ohhh
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 22, 2020, 10:53:12 AM
Will definitely be keeping my eye on that.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on August 23, 2020, 12:08:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DiuqgyVx0w
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Nintex on September 06, 2020, 09:03:55 AM
thinking about selling my mega drive stuff. This is what I have in terms of games (all PAL):

Sonic & Knuckles
Battletoads
Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (rev 2, but cart only)
Ecco the Dolphin
World of Illusion
ZOOL
Lemmings
Jurassic Park
Crack Down
Sonic the Hedgehog (box only, this is what Sonic 3 came in)
Mighty Morphin Power Rangers (broken)

To make it worth owning I either need to get more games for it or start with collecting the rare 32x / CD stuff but I can't bothered.
I started collecting Mega Drive things arout 2012(?) I think and back then mostly wanted it to play Sonic 3 & Knuckles and a few other titles.
Figured I would pick up some cheap games to round out the collection but most is trash, unless you have nostalgic feelings for it.
(which I had for Power Rangers I used to play with the SEGA kid next door and that being a broken cartridge really soured me too)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on September 09, 2020, 10:06:58 AM
but most is trash, unless you have nostalgic feelings for it.

 :beli

Anyway, you're probably not going to get much for those.  They're very common, especially the Sonic games.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tuckers Law on September 22, 2020, 08:09:07 PM
I recently modded up my mini PlayStation with AutoBleem, which is stupid simple to setup.

You only really need two things:

1- A usb stick. I picked this 128GB but you could go higher or lower. 128 is more than enough for me.

https://amzn.to/30yqL3Z

2- An OTG cable, so you can plug it into the back port of the mini PlayStation along with power (this lets you use the USB port/stick to its full potential, the front ports are limited, and it frees up a controller spot).

https://amzn.to/3hlhOlq

From there all you basically do is drag and drop AutoBleem to the stick, then plug it into the front port, install AutoBleem's kernel (allows OTG and other stuff), then you can set up the USB (format it as NTFS etc) to use the OTG cable and just drag and drop your games.

The only real negative/drawback is being stuck with the original PS1 pad, but if you want to take the extra steps to use analog/other controllers you can.

Just wanted to say big bless up to you for posting this, it convinced me to jump aboard the ps classic emu train and it’s pretty dope.  Were my mouth not too small I’d suck your monster dong in thanks.  Alas...

Now I just need to figure out how much of my ps1 library I want to rip onto it, and what I’ll do for the games I want but don’t already own.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on September 22, 2020, 09:14:46 PM
Good job. Time to swim in pussy with your new PlayStation
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: paprikastaude on September 22, 2020, 11:57:39 PM
Blinx is only on Xbox :bolo
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on October 15, 2020, 08:16:38 PM
https://youtu.be/fhp0ySFnB5g

Quote
“The pack includes, but it not limited to, some of the features detailed below. Many of these features are carryover from prior hacks that have previously been developed for Zelda.  Items denoted with an asterisk are brand new features that have been created exclusively for the Mesen pack.

•   Increased resolution**
•   Increased frame count for running**
•   Updated sound effects and music**
•   New title and game select screen**
•   Animated environments**
•   Save manually with Up+A when in the items subscreen
•   Re-localization of the game script
•   Increased bomb max
•   Increased bomb upgrade amount
•   Faster text printing
•   Change the Red and Blue rings to Red and Blue tunics
•   Breakable tile hints
•   Press the “Select” button to toggle the item assigned to the “B” button
•   Faster health refills
•   Partial heart pieces in HUD”
http://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=31559.0

 :aweshum
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Beezy on October 16, 2020, 12:04:09 PM
https://twitter.com/analogue/status/1317118116678094860
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Himu on October 16, 2020, 12:13:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DiuqgyVx0w

holy shit
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on October 16, 2020, 12:34:32 PM
https://twitter.com/analogue/status/1317118116678094860

My Duo laser is on the fritz so this will be super useful... if the preorders aren't a clusterfuck like the Analogue Pocket...
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 16, 2020, 05:24:31 PM
https://twitter.com/analogue/status/1317118116678094860

Definitely wanna get one of these. $200 is a pretty decent price, too, considering that a genuine PC Engine Duo starts at about $300.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on November 09, 2020, 08:46:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLPWr9N9a5s
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Shuri on November 09, 2020, 02:59:04 PM
it was just a matter of time for DC version, people have been converting atomiswave stuff to the sega naomi for the past two years.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on November 20, 2020, 11:12:15 AM
SEGA VR REVIVED: EMULATING AN UNRELEASED GENESIS ACCESSORY (https://gamehistory.org/segavr/)

(https://i.imgur.com/qk9AWtPl.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/JCzhTT2l.png)

Amazing story and technical deep dive!
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on November 24, 2020, 08:41:47 AM
Another day, another overpriced mini console.

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2020/11/capcoms_releasing_a_mini-arcade_system_packed_with_mega_man_and_street_fighter_games

(https://images.nintendolife.com/98a5ead98e46e/screenshot-2020-11-23-at-12-46-06.original.jpg)

Quote
Dubbed the Retro Station, this tabletop unit has an 8-inch screen and weighs 2.1 kg. It comes with the following titles:

Mega Man The Power Battle
Mega Man 2 The Power Fighters
Mega Man X
Mega Man Soccer
Mega Man & Bass (Japanese Console Version)
Street Fighter II
Street Fighter II’ Champion Edition
Super Street Fighter II
Super Street Fighter II Turbo
Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo

Quote
The unit has been listed for sale on Amazon Japan, and while the page doesn't currently have pricing information, according to Siliconera, it previously said 21,780 yen – which is around $210. It is also reported that Gantaku, the company that handled the production of the thematically-similar Neo Geo Mini production, is the firm behind this particular unit.

:mindblown
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 24, 2020, 12:37:39 PM
$210

:dead
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tuckers Law on November 24, 2020, 06:59:00 PM
Finally the release of Mega Man Soccer I've been hoping for.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on December 09, 2020, 12:24:29 PM
Designing 2D graphics in the Japanese industry (https://vgdensetsu.tumblr.com/post/179656817318/designing-2d-graphics-in-japan-from-the-late-70s)

(https://i.imgur.com/s1VHKXj.gif)

(https://i.imgur.com/OjNnjf7.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/KWAaPDW.jpg)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on December 15, 2020, 06:01:20 PM
SuperRT – Realtime Raytracing on the SNES (https://www.shironekolabs.com/posts/superrt/)

(https://i.imgur.com/DTRqgqR.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/2buU4rk.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/DGV6YmH.jpg)


I always thought there was so much untapped potential in cartridge CPUs such as SuperFX. This is pushing it way further than I ever thought possible though!
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tuckers Law on December 15, 2020, 07:03:30 PM
That’s crazy.  :o
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on December 15, 2020, 07:42:46 PM
Yeah it's pretty insane the solution to "it's a few years after launch, how do we impress players again?" was "just strap a second CPU to every goddamn copy of the game, dawg."

That one aspect of cartridge-based media basically makes the system technically have no upper processing limit (though you're probably dealing with sync and bandwidth issues.) But of course few would pay $200 or more for a single game... I'm curious on the original MSRPs of SuperFX games. Did Nintendo keep a consistent price point, or did they pass on the cost of the extra hardware onto the consumer?
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tuckers Law on December 15, 2020, 08:02:16 PM
I want to say I recall most all of those games with extra chips in the carts being more expensive.  I think both Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy III were $80-90 MSRP, maybe it was just third parties and Nintendo ate the cost on their games like DKC and Stunt Race FX.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Trent Dole on December 15, 2020, 08:28:26 PM
I definitely paid $80 for FFIII back in the day and remember the initial version of SFII going for $75. :doge
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on December 15, 2020, 09:31:52 PM
MegaWiFi - WiFi enabled cartridge for the 16-bit SEGA Genesis/MegaDrive console (https://github.com/doragasu/mw)

Currently only an open source schematic with no working implementation... yet.

A GameBoy version of this has been my top homebrew scene dream for 5+ years. I'm really excited the concept is out there and people are working on it. :D Maybe a GB version isn't too far behind.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on December 15, 2020, 09:41:52 PM
Super Tilt Bro. - Real time online gaming with the NES (https://www.videogamesage.com/topic/762-super-tilt-bro-for-nes/page/2/?tab=comments#comment-86817)

NES version of the previous post, with actual working hardware! Crazy! E- Still seems to be software-only, but you can still actually play this one!
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 15, 2020, 11:28:45 PM
SuperRT – Realtime Raytracing on the SNES (https://www.shironekolabs.com/posts/superrt/)

(https://i.imgur.com/DTRqgqR.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/2buU4rk.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/DGV6YmH.jpg)


I always thought there was so much untapped potential in cartridge CPUs such as SuperFX. This is pushing it way further than I ever thought possible though!

Reminds me of old-school CG demos.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on December 16, 2020, 07:33:12 AM
I definitely paid $80 for FFIII back in the day and remember the initial version of SFII going for $75. :doge

(https://i.imgur.com/khmhfoA.jpg)

This ad shows new SNES games being $70 - while the console itself costs $90.  Nuts.

Same with Genesis.  The higher memory cartridges and those with add-on chips were definitely more expensive.  Virtua Racing was $100.  Most games were more expensive back then.  I paid $65 for a lot of early Genesis titles like Revenge of Shinobi and Golden Axe.

Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 16, 2020, 09:15:52 AM
I remember paying nearly $100 for Sonic 2 back in the day.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on December 16, 2020, 10:34:06 AM
I remember paying nearly $100 for Sonic 2 back in the day.
:leon  What's the deal with that?  I don't remember it being so much ever.  Personally, I remember renting S2 on actual Sonic 2sday fro the local video store (Versatile Video).  I literally saw it sitting there on some bench behind the counter... guess they didn't put it out on the shelves yet, so I bugged them to let me rent it...  Totally played it for 3 days straight..  Will always stay my favorite Sonic.  :heart
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 16, 2020, 01:25:45 PM
Now that I think about it, it was probably $80 for the base price. Add in at least $5 for tax, though. Felt like a lot at the time.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on December 16, 2020, 07:42:01 PM
I remember paying nearly $100 for Sonic 2 back in the day.
:leon  What's the deal with that?  I don't remember it being so much ever.  Personally, I remember renting S2 on actual Sonic 2sday fro the local video store (Versatile Video).  I literally saw it sitting there on some bench behind the counter... guess they didn't put it out on the shelves yet, so I bugged them to let me rent it...  Totally played it for 3 days straight..  Will always stay my favorite Sonic.  :heart

Depended on the store.  I remember seeing some SNES RPGs for $80-$100, too, even when other stores had them for $60-$80.  IIRC KB Toys, Babbage's and Software Etc. used to have the worst prices.  Toys 'R Us was mixed and would often have older games still full price.  You could totally take advantage of this back in the day- like when Super Street Fighter II came out for SNES, we went to get it and I noticed that they had a game priced for $60 that a store in the mall was dumping for around $20.  We left, bought the game at the mall, then returned it to TRU (who didn't care about a receipt) and got Street Fighter. 
:rejoice
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: benjipwns on December 16, 2020, 08:57:00 PM
I'll make a note to look in some old mags for the Super FX prices, but I really don't remember them being more expensive than Nintendo first party in general. Maybe like $5 more or something. The Super FX was a pretty cheap chip, the 2 is actually the version Argonaut originally made, but Nintendo said it was too costly, so they cut its clocks in half for Star Fox, Stunt Race, etc. It's a really fast, really specific RISC IIRC. Even the RISC CPUs that consoles used are still mostly off-the-shelf, but SuperFX was even more stripping out stuff a game would never use or that was replicated elsewhere in the hardware (sound, hardware to draw the graphics, etc.).

The original SuperFX spec called for 21Mhz which is kinda nuts for a CPU they were putting inside the carts without special cooling. The 486 at the time (1990) was only like 25Mhz. (Also, the SuperFX was originally considered as a NES chip.)

Lots of SNES games used custom chips though, same with NES, to get around that slow CPU. Genesis carts didn't use any except for Virtua Racing. (Which was so expensive that Sega considered just selling a plug-in cartridge that contained the SVP in it and then you'd plug games into that.)

The biggest cost by far in that era was simply the ROM costs. Street Fighters were so expensive as they were always on the high end of the ROM sizes. Which is why Capcom took a bath on Super Street Fighter II, they overproduced demand on 32 megabit carts (40 megabit for the Genesis edition!), the largest of the time, AND ROM/RAM costs shot up in Asia at the same time. Acclaim similarly got smashed on 32 megabit carts.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on December 16, 2020, 11:35:34 PM
RPGs were always more expensive than other games of the time due to the larger ROM sizes compared to their contemporaries and the fact that Nintendo/Sega saw them as niche, enthusiast games for older people with money to burn. Some prices I recall at the stores (mainly Toys R Us, EB) at the time:

Phantasy Star 1 and 2 were $70
Phantasy Star 3 was $75
Phantasy Star 4 I remember was a whopping $110 at Toys R Us (The most expensive I've ever seen a non-Neo-Geo, non-special edition, retail game release)
Final Fantasy 6 was $80
Chrono Trigger and Secret of Mana were both $75

Even the Game Boy RPGs (Final Fantasy Legend 1-3, Adventure) were all $40 when their peers would be $20-30
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on December 18, 2020, 10:22:22 AM
RPGs were always more expensive than other games of the time due to the larger ROM sizes compared to their contemporaries and the fact that Nintendo/Sega saw them as niche, enthusiast games for older people with money to burn. Some prices I recall at the stores (mainly Toys R Us, EB) at the time:

Phantasy Star 1 and 2 were $70
Phantasy Star 3 was $75
Phantasy Star 4 I remember was a whopping $110 at Toys R Us (The most expensive I've ever seen a non-Neo-Geo, non-special edition, retail game release)
Final Fantasy 6 was $80
Chrono Trigger and Secret of Mana were both $75

Even the Game Boy RPGs (Final Fantasy Legend 1-3, Adventure) were all $40 when their peers would be $20-30

I remember seeing Chrono Trigger for sure and I think FFIII as well for $99.99 at Toys 'R Us, too.  One of the best things about the change to a 'mainstream' CD format with the Saturn and PS1 was seeing game release prices suddenly change to $50-$60.  And then most of the 16-bit stuff started getting dumped and I could pick up brand new carts for $10-$20 each.
:rejoice
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tuckers Law on December 18, 2020, 03:45:23 PM
Getting Grandia brand new for $50  :delicious
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 19, 2020, 03:27:57 AM
The Astro City Mini is pretty dope if you’re like me and used to own a real Astro City and need that hot aesthetic in your life. Otherwise you should just get a Raspberry Pi or something

The Astro City Mini Arcade stick is SHIT HOT, costs enough tho. Weighs 6.5 pounds holy shit
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Bebpo on December 19, 2020, 04:19:35 AM
I'm still waiting to see if this retro mini console/arcade revival thing ever moves beyond 16-bit.

Like a Saturn mini or Dreamcast mini would be amazing. And tech-wise and emulator quality-wise these days I don't see why they couldn't do it. A Saturn mini should be real doable and there are so many amazing and rare Saturn games it'd be really awesome.

At this point I figure it's either never going to happen, or it'll happen in the next couple of years since at this point that's all that's left for these companies in mini-consoles. Mini-Saturn, Mini-N64, Mini-PS2, etc...
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on December 25, 2020, 08:12:40 AM
Paprium finally came out!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stWXSdDqwtc
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: chronovore on December 26, 2020, 12:47:24 AM
The Astro City Mini is pretty dope if you’re like me and used to own a real Astro City and need that hot aesthetic in your life. Otherwise you should just get a Raspberry Pi or something

The Astro City Mini Arcade stick is SHIT HOT, costs enough tho. Weighs 6.5 pounds holy shit

Dude on our project got one, and it was the only time I've seen him brag in a year of working together. :pimp
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Bebpo on December 26, 2020, 06:15:09 PM
Paprium finally came out!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stWXSdDqwtc

So is this game going to come to modern systems/pc at some point? Or do you have to play on an emulator?
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on December 27, 2020, 08:57:35 AM
Paprium finally came out!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stWXSdDqwtc

So is this game going to come to modern systems/pc at some point? Or do you have to play on an emulator?

As I understand it, there's only a physical Genesis release and the carts have some modifications preventing them from working after being dumped.  Am sure it will pop up as playable at some point and don't understand why they wouldn't officially release it as a digital purchase.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Bebpo on December 27, 2020, 08:46:51 PM
I didn't even know it was possible to prevent roms from being dumped in modern times. wtf.

Seems a bit up their own ass.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on December 27, 2020, 09:05:49 PM
I didn't even know it was possible to prevent roms from being dumped in modern times. wtf.

Seems a bit up their own ass.

Not sure if that was their intention (although I'm sure they wouldn't want it to be pirated!)- as I understand it, there's some extra chips to allow the game to run the way it does on a Genesis.  IIRC it also only works on certain model Genesis systems and won't work on some, if not all, clone consoles. 

It's cool to see new games being made for old consoles like this, but it's also baffling why they would purposefully limit the playerbase like this.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on December 27, 2020, 09:07:58 PM
Speaking of limited, they announced their next game:

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2020/12/just_when_you_thought_2020_couldnt_get_any_weirder_watermelons_paprium_is_finally_finished

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Amazingly, even though the Paprium saga has left a bad taste in the mouths of many, WaterMelon has just announced another Genesis project – but it's expecting people to lay down cash before even seeing a single screenshot.

Entitled A(...)M(...)96, it's another scrolling fighter for Sega's 16-bit console, and will cost you $169 for the standard version and $229 for the limited edition. WaterMelon clearly expects this to become something of a collector's item, as it is only creating a single batch, and warns buyers "if you miss it now, you miss it forever!" It is also encouraging people to buy in bulk, stating that a discount will be applied to orders of more than 7 units, and that any order over $4999 will get a "free arcade cab, custom-made for the game."

:titus
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Bebpo on December 27, 2020, 09:22:53 PM
lol
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Shuri on December 30, 2020, 05:16:25 PM
after getting burned by xenocrisis, I'm kinda done with homebrew games  :-\
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on December 30, 2020, 09:32:08 PM
after getting burned by xenocrisis, I'm kinda done with homebrew games  :-\

What happened?
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 30, 2020, 10:48:32 PM
Speaking of limited, they announced their next game:

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2020/12/just_when_you_thought_2020_couldnt_get_any_weirder_watermelons_paprium_is_finally_finished

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Amazingly, even though the Paprium saga has left a bad taste in the mouths of many, WaterMelon has just announced another Genesis project – but it's expecting people to lay down cash before even seeing a single screenshot.

Entitled A(...)M(...)96, it's another scrolling fighter for Sega's 16-bit console, and will cost you $169 for the standard version and $229 for the limited edition. WaterMelon clearly expects this to become something of a collector's item, as it is only creating a single batch, and warns buyers "if you miss it now, you miss it forever!" It is also encouraging people to buy in bulk, stating that a discount will be applied to orders of more than 7 units, and that any order over $4999 will get a "free arcade cab, custom-made for the game."

:titus

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Any trailer & screenshots?
No

Dudes, why is that?
We only focus on the game!

Can I buy the game later?
No, it's a single-batch, but you can try ebay later-on.

Any purchase deadline?
Maybe

Is it worth the price?
Considering how exclusive it is,
we think it's a bargain.

(https://i.imgur.com/2qFBgAi.gif)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 31, 2020, 05:48:51 PM
We can't even show you what the game looks like because we only focus on the game!
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on December 31, 2020, 06:38:03 PM
thinking of getting a retroid pocket 2.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on January 02, 2021, 02:37:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b68eUQ6WmEQ
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on January 02, 2021, 02:37:46 PM
thinking of getting a retroid pocket 2.

Thoughts?

No idea- can't keep up with these things since so many keep getting released. :dizzy
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on January 03, 2021, 01:13:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydMLculJDIc

He reads part of the developer's "manifesto" in the beginning.  It's :crazy

The carts have a jack you can use to connect to the Internet with and upload high scores or get DLC.  Wonder if the latter will ever happen?

He also mentions that when you unlock everything and get the game's true ending, the save file locks and you can't go back to it.  If you delete the save, anything you've unlocked also gets deleted.
:titus
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rufus on January 03, 2021, 02:27:22 PM
I wonder if the 'heatsink' bouncing around the cart like that can short something.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Bebpo on January 03, 2021, 04:27:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b68eUQ6WmEQ

As someone that plays virtual pinball on the regular, this is cool, but honestly I don't think it'd feel much better than on your pc with a rotated screen. The virtual stuff is fantastic, but there's just something about actual physical balls rolling around.

My parents had a pinball machine when I was a kid (Pinbot) and someday I'd like to get a real one myself.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on January 09, 2021, 11:35:55 AM
New open-source scaler coming out soon - looks similar to the OSSC in function, not really sure how it compares:

https://www.gbscaio.com/
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Quaker on January 10, 2021, 12:32:45 AM
The OSSC is "open source" in that the design isn't owned by any company but there's not really a lot, if any, community updates for it from what I can tell. What this really means is that you can buy it for around $120 if you order from China/aliexpress now that it's a free for all on manufacturing(It was closer to around $200 back when it launched and there weren't as many sources to buy it from).

This other scaler is based on a project that uses an Arduino and tiny hardware tweaks to add functionality to a dirt cheap $20 Chinese(?) scaler with lots of ongoing community driven updates and improvements.)

This GBS doesn't look nearly as good as OSSC for Super Nintendo in the example video below but looks like a big improvement in performance for PS1 and PS2 games.

(Some PS1 games like Chrono Cross, Dino Crisis and Silent Hill output at one resolution during gameplay and another higher resolution in their menus. This causes a short signal dropout on digital screens with some upscalers and TVs, which this upscaler fixes due to having a buffer large enough to avoid the problem and small enough not to introduce any lag.

For PS2 games, most are interlaced at 480i and need to be deinterlaced for HDTVs. Depending on the method, this can have the side effect of introducing combing artifacts or making some elements like the HUD or text have an unsightly judder or flicker. This scaler has the option of "Motion Adaptive" deinterlacing which I've heard very good things about.)

https://youtu.be/fmfR0XI5czI?t=878

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go9W4KBdHnk

This new "All-in-One" fork looks great, hopefully in a few months when it's fully open source there'll be some good tutorials so you can build one for half the price with some minor soldering.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: HardcoreRetro on January 11, 2021, 12:27:51 PM
Hooked up the PS1 to the 4K tv. Played some Medal of Honor. Game is still pretty fun.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on January 11, 2021, 10:25:55 PM
Hooked up the PS1 to the 4K tv. Played some Medal of Honor. Game is still pretty fun.

I played through MOH Underground not too long ago and it held up well.

Just a heads up that you can get Famicom minis on the Japanese version of Amazon for about $57.  They do take US debit/credit cards and ship to the States.  Ordered one tonight.

https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/gp/product/B01M1VMFUA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Still trying to get the TurboGrafx/PC Engine/SuperGrafx mini for a decent price...
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 11, 2021, 11:43:38 PM
GF picked one up, that controller is HORRIFYINGLY small (FC mini)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 12, 2021, 12:40:44 AM
Was at a local Disc Replay(Midwest used store mostly run by stoners) and they had a used Dualshock 3 and Sixaxis. Bought that shit up. Real PS3 controllers are kind of hard to find these days.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 12, 2021, 03:42:25 AM
Slam jam a new battery in that DS3, so hard to find a functioning one
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Clockwork5 on January 12, 2021, 06:31:09 PM
Got an RG300 of Amazon with a preloaded SD card full of those sweet roms. I’m unreasonably excited to get that bad boy in the mail tomorrow. 
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on January 21, 2021, 09:56:01 AM
https://youtu.be/WJITjKpcPHk

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/01/pc-fan-port-of-early-sonic-games-lets-you-zoom-the-camera-way-way-back/
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on January 22, 2021, 01:09:57 PM
https://youtu.be/WJITjKpcPHk

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/01/pc-fan-port-of-early-sonic-games-lets-you-zoom-the-camera-way-way-back/

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/013/833/c.jpg)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on January 22, 2021, 01:10:55 PM
Honestly at fullscreen that might be my preferred way to play Sonic, at least parts of Sonic 2 and probably CD.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on January 22, 2021, 09:44:20 PM
Honestly at fullscreen that might be my preferred way to play Sonic, at least parts of Sonic 2 and probably CD.

Might work well on a big TV!
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rman on February 16, 2021, 03:42:23 PM
anyone heard of a company called retrovision? they seem to make good cables. sligthly pricey, but are they legit?
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Quaker on February 16, 2021, 07:07:07 PM
HD Retrovision?

I don't have any but their Genesis component cables are held in really high regard. They also sell PlayStation and Saturn adapters for their Genesis cables.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXtoeXLD85s
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on February 18, 2021, 09:05:29 AM
I didn't know someone patched the PS2 version of Phantasy Star Generation 2 in English!

https://cdromance.com/ps2-iso/sega-ages-2500-series-vol-17-phantasy-star-generation2-english-patched/

It runs kinda not bad on my phone...  The battles looks great!... but those cut scenes are a bit jarring what with the art style though.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rman on February 20, 2021, 08:38:13 AM
HD Retrovision?

I don't have any but their Genesis component cables are held in really high regard. They also sell PlayStation and Saturn adapters for their Genesis cables.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXtoeXLD85s
Yes!
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on February 21, 2021, 12:40:23 PM
I didn't know someone patched the PS2 version of Phantasy Star Generation 2 in English!

https://cdromance.com/ps2-iso/sega-ages-2500-series-vol-17-phantasy-star-generation2-english-patched/

It runs kinda not bad on my phone...  The battles looks great!... but those cut scenes are a bit jarring what with the art style though.

I hate hate hate what they did with the character artwork so much in this...  :-\
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Trent Dole on February 21, 2021, 01:22:28 PM
Finally got the English patch for Virtual Pro Wrestling 2 :jeb I didn't realize it ever got finished and released, but it's a damn near complete translation of everything. There's a handful of stuff deep into the options that I have no clue what it is even in there for or what it does that isn't translated and that's about it.
Can always use a phones OCR for those few.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on March 19, 2021, 12:17:33 PM
https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1372766463556083715

Amazing thread! Love Duke 3D and Build Engine games. Now I really wanna build my own. 👀
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Quaker on March 19, 2021, 07:18:53 PM
"Boomer Shooters" :heartbeat
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: MMaRsu on March 19, 2021, 08:17:12 PM
Im still waiting on an Unreal Tournament or Quake 3 revival

Then again, Epic so ehhh

why did they have to turn to shit  :(

I dont see Microsoft giving ID the go ahead for a Quake 3 Arena type game lmao  :maf
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Quaker on March 19, 2021, 08:53:31 PM
Why not?

They're desperate for marketshare and aside from Forza and maybe Gears I don't see a lot else that's promising. They'll run out of ideas eventually.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: benjipwns on March 19, 2021, 09:39:54 PM
Im still waiting on an Unreal Tournament or Quake 3 revival
There was both: Quake Live and UT2014.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: MMaRsu on March 20, 2021, 06:37:45 AM
Im still waiting on an Unreal Tournament or Quake 3 revival
There was both: Quake Live and UT2014.

Heh I know but neither came close to the perfection of ut99 and q3a
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on March 25, 2021, 09:55:07 AM
Someone Just Opened A Brand-New Nintendo 64DD Dev Kit (https://kotaku.com/someone-just-opened-a-brand-new-nintendo-64dd-dev-kit-1846548526)

Damn, that's sick.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Bebpo on March 26, 2021, 12:29:01 AM
So I saw a thread on all of Mario game deaths in a few days and it said that the Fire Emblem 1 NES release on Switch with all the nice quality of life stuff like FF and turn rewind and save states is also disappearing in a few days.

Is FE1 any good? I usually feel like 8-bit stuff is way too dated gameplay-wise but I saw a review that said with the QoL stuff it holds up as a tactics game. If I had to choose between playing FE Awakening on 3ds or this version of FE1 NES as my next FE and didn't care about fucking thousand your old loli dragons, which is the better tactics game?
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Shuri on March 27, 2021, 10:47:36 AM
I picked up a bunch of arcade hardware in the past months

Sega Naomi + Slashout, a fun forgotten Sega hack and slash games. I actually accidentally bought the Naomi that came with it, the online translator wasnt clear if it was included, and I basically paid /3 of the price on ebay for the cart. So yay, Bonus Sega Naomi. Soon, I will be able to build a house out of Naomis.
Namco System 246 + Gundam DX, Gundam Seed 2. This should be interesting, when it gets there.
Rage of the Dragon MVS, a fun Garou ERA fighting game based on Double Dragon
Real Bout Fatal Fury. I didnt have that one. It's fun.
Fighter History Dynamite. It's alright. Very colorful
GanGan, or Aggressor of dark kombat. Not bad!
Spinal Breaker, a shooter in the spirit of Cabal. There are some very uhh, late '80 racial stereotypes in this game. What the fuck  :doge
X-Men Vs Street Fighters! Such a classic.

Why are people on resetera still promoting the Framemeister, is this still 2012
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 27, 2021, 12:23:21 PM
Spinal Breaker, a shooter in the spirit of Cabal. There are some very uhh, late '80 racial stereotypes in this game. What the fuck  :doge

Starring the dashing hero: Captain Waffle (https://sonicwings.fandom.com/wiki/Waffle,_Captain)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on March 28, 2021, 07:10:25 PM
Busted out the VIRTUAL BOYS to try them out - no surprise, they have issues (virtual boys are very problematic).
I found someone online who repairs the headset piece so I am sending them out this week.

Have some virtual boy porn

(https://i.imgur.com/woL3ynK.jpg)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Nintex on March 28, 2021, 07:52:47 PM
So I saw a thread on all of Mario game deaths in a few days and it said that the Fire Emblem 1 NES release on Switch with all the nice quality of life stuff like FF and turn rewind and save states is also disappearing in a few days.

Is FE1 any good? I usually feel like 8-bit stuff is way too dated gameplay-wise but I saw a review that said with the QoL stuff it holds up as a tactics game. If I had to choose between playing FE Awakening on 3ds or this version of FE1 NES as my next FE and didn't care about fucking thousand your old loli dragons, which is the better tactics game?
FE Awakening is what revived the series and a fantastic game.
I'm also a big fan of Echoes of Valencia, which is a remake of Fire Emblem Gaiden, the 2nd game in the series.

Not sure about buying Fire Emblem NES on Switch at this point.
Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon on DS is an excellent remake of the same game that was also released on Wii U.
One of those Nintendo things to not bring that back with a 'remaster' of sorts but instead release the very first 8 bit Fire Emblem relic with a limited release instead of adding it to their Switch NES library :dizzy
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on March 29, 2021, 08:12:11 AM
Busted out the VIRTUAL BOYS to try them out - no surprise, they have issues (virtual boys are very problematic).
I found someone online who repairs the headset piece so I am sending them out this week.

Have some virtual boy porn

(https://i.imgur.com/woL3ynK.jpg)

It's amazing how much VB-related stuff is going for nowadays. I wanted one just as a talking piece (and maybe to try Jack Bros) but then looked at the prices and noped the fuck right back out. Jaguar is the same way, from a system you couldn't give away back in the day, now it's going for $300-400+.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on March 29, 2021, 08:16:35 AM
Scarcity is a hell of a drug.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on March 29, 2021, 10:19:33 AM
jack bros is doodoo. wario land baby.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on March 29, 2021, 11:20:27 AM
jack bros is doodoo. wario land baby.

The novelty of being the first SMT-related release in the US is what interests me. Wario Land I'd love to try too, and it was such a missed opportunity that the 3DS never got VB games on its virtual console (or a remake of this specific game).
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on March 29, 2021, 11:22:50 AM
https://www.ebay.com/p/5924

Jesus Christ :o
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on March 29, 2021, 11:28:15 AM
Yeah, Jack Bros is stupid

I only need (ordered by price):

- Jack Bros
- Waterworld
- Nester's Funky Bowling
- Virtual League Baseball

To have all US games

That said pretty much most VB games are shit
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on March 29, 2021, 12:13:25 PM
https://www.ebay.com/p/5924

Jesus Christ :o

Wow, prices have only continued to go up- I sold mine for like $400 a few years ago.   Originally paid ten bucks for it.  Not the best game like demi said.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tuckers Law on March 29, 2021, 03:59:13 PM
I remember liking Wario Land.   Then again, I didn’t have to pay for that paperweight of a device since it was my friends, so that probably made it easier to enjoy the headache inducing reds of virtua boy.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Bebpo on April 16, 2021, 02:43:55 AM
How is playing DS games on an emulator given the whole split screen thing?

Since I'm on a SaGa kick, I was looking at the history of releases and saw I never picked up SaGa/FFL 2/3 remakes on DS that were Japan only. Not even sure if my DS works these days or if I'd want to play anything on actual DS hardware anymore. 3DS still nice, but DS kinda olddddddd.

Wonder if I should play them on an emulator if I ever want to give them a try.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: benjipwns on April 16, 2021, 03:10:43 AM
The emulators just put the two screens on top of each other. If you need to tap you can click with your mouse. Kinda wonky sometimes for games where you use the stylus a lot, but if the game is just one that displays stuff on the second screen and you control normally then it's perfectly fine.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Svejk on April 16, 2021, 07:42:04 AM
Playing a DS emu (DraStic) on a Galaxy Note is the bees knees.  :rejoice
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on April 16, 2021, 10:07:58 AM
How is playing DS games on an emulator given the whole split screen thing?

Since I'm on a SaGa kick, I was looking at the history of releases and saw I never picked up SaGa/FFL 2/3 remakes on DS that were Japan only. Not even sure if my DS works these days or if I'd want to play anything on actual DS hardware anymore. 3DS still nice, but DS kinda olddddddd.

Wonder if I should play them on an emulator if I ever want to give them a try.

You do know DS flash carts work on 3DS too? Just get a compatible DS flash cart

SaGa 2 translation -> https://www.romhacking.net/translations/1610/
SaGa 3 translation -> https://www.romhacking.net/translations/1705/
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Bebpo on April 16, 2021, 02:44:07 PM
Only the old 3DS plays carts, right?

I'm using the XL and I thought they removed DS cart BC.

*edit* Wait, they never removed DS BC? I wonder why I thought they did. Maybe I was thinking about GBA BC with DS?
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on April 16, 2021, 04:08:06 PM
Yes they removed GBA on the DSi + 3DS

You can play DS games just fine on 3DS

There are 3DS flashcarts, and DS flashcarts, which are compatible with 3DS depending on the flashcart (information easily available)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Bebpo on April 16, 2021, 04:58:49 PM
I'll keep this in mind for the future, for now I'll probably just grab SaGa 2/3 used physical for my collection since now I know I can play them on my 3ds (don't mind playing them in Japanese, if I ever get to them).
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Nintex on April 21, 2021, 04:53:50 PM
Super Potato is now on Ebay. The flood gates have opened or the barbarians are at the gate depending on which side of the argument you are on.

https://www.ebay.com/str/superpotatoretrogames?mkcid=1&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&campid=5336736927&toolid=10001&mkevt=1 (https://www.ebay.com/str/superpotatoretrogames?mkcid=1&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&campid=5336736927&toolid=10001&mkevt=1)

https://twitter.com/SuperpotatoG/status/1384702266955821058 (https://twitter.com/SuperpotatoG/status/1384702266955821058)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: porkbun on April 22, 2021, 11:21:45 AM
$20 shipping

 :wut
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Quaker on April 22, 2021, 02:31:34 PM
Super Potato has never been the place to go for good deals AFAIK but covid has/had screwed with international shipping from Japan for a while so the sellers/shippers I've followed have moved to DHL.

( https://www.sendico.com/covid )

It's more expensive but hardware can still be a good deal depending on the seller.

And the service was surprisingly good. I ordered something around November/December when domestic USPS mail was a total shitshow. It was like 3 days to go from Japan to Texas via DHL and in the same time period it took like 3 weeks for USPS Priority to deliver something from Texas to NYC.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on April 22, 2021, 02:57:03 PM
DHL shipping from Japan is the GOAT.  Takes 2-3 days and if you sign up for a free account, they will text you with options like opting out of a required signature.  They've even called me before to tell me that they were there to drop something off and to ask if it was OK to leave it at the door.
:lawd
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on April 24, 2021, 10:15:21 AM
Have you gotten DHL shipments from individuals in Japan vs. companies? I tried signing up to ship this fucking Astro City stick to my friend and couldn't make it happen; it was giving me insane price quotes ($400) and requiring bizarro shipping codes.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on April 24, 2021, 10:17:54 AM
BTW Super Potato is going to make a killing, they're absolutely the #1 tourist-friendly store. I prefer doing my mouth-breathing nerd shopping at less-known chains like Surugaya, but Super Potato's in-store stock is legitimately good at least in the Osaka locations. If you're looking for something specific and don't mind a markup they get the job done.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on April 24, 2021, 10:24:11 AM
Have you gotten DHL shipments from individuals in Japan vs. companies? I tried signing up to ship this fucking Astro City stick to my friend and couldn't make it happen; it was giving me insane price quotes ($400) and requiring bizarro shipping codes.

Only companies.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on April 25, 2021, 01:01:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKOMNc8XQoo

Going through my collection on eBay for the higher-earners... all NTSC pre-owned with box:

Pokemon Pearl: $89.99
Pokemon SoulSilver (complete with Pokewalker): $299.91
Pokemon Platinum: $234.99 :o
Pokemon White: $100.00
Pokemon White 2: $149.99 :o
Dementium: The Ward: $94.95 (got my copy signed by Jools tho, never selling it :heart)
Dementium 2: $96.95 :o

The rest are ~$30 or less.

Fricking crazy... :crazy
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on April 25, 2021, 02:27:26 PM
I was shocked to see how high the DS DQ games were going for. And I bought that one furry game that's apparently super rare and highly in demand (Solarobo I think).
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Bebpo on April 25, 2021, 02:40:02 PM
Yeah, the downside of buying JP versions of almost every JPN game through like PS4 or something when they started being dual-audio more regularly and release worldwide at the same time is that very few of my JP retro games have a ton of value, whereas the US versions of the same games are $$$$ because they had lower print runs and most of the collector fanbase is English speaking.

Not only did the JP versions cost like $20-30 more at release than the US versions, but now they're worth less!

I remember Radiant Silvergun (Saturn) and SMT3 Maniax (PS2) being of a couple of the rare JP games actually worth anything.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on April 25, 2021, 05:32:20 PM
Even considering how easy it is to emulate AND pirate w/ flashcart, people are still willing to spend upwards of $200 on DS games

Nothing beats an original (tm)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on April 25, 2021, 07:31:38 PM
Yeah, the downside of buying JP versions of almost every JPN game through like PS4 or something when they started being dual-audio more regularly and release worldwide at the same time is that very few of my JP retro games have a ton of value, whereas the US versions of the same games are $$$$ because they had lower print runs and most of the collector fanbase is English speaking.

Not only did the JP versions cost like $20-30 more at release than the US versions, but now they're worth less!

I remember Radiant Silvergun (Saturn) and SMT3 Maniax (PS2) being of a couple of the rare JP games actually worth anything.

You'd be surprised, there are some games that are common as dirt in the US (such as Battletoads, Contra, Castlevania, and a lot of later Mega Drive games) whose Japanese versions are worth a lot of $$. Shmups both US and JP are usually pretty expensive. It's RPGs that are super cheap in Japan while extremely expensive in the US - the popularity and ubiquity of the genre in Japan compared to when it was niche back in the US, plus readability factors into it.

Radiant Silvergun surprisingly isn't worth that much more than it was back in the early 2000s. I remember paying close to $150 for it and that was like the most I've ever spent on a single game, up to that point. Now pricecharting has complete for $250, which hasn't accrued value nearly as much as some of the other Saturn heavy hitters. I speak as I take a break from Magic Knight Rayearth, which I bought for $65 back in 2001, now worth 10x as much.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Bebpo on April 25, 2021, 07:46:38 PM
Yeah, the downside of buying JP versions of almost every JPN game through like PS4 or something when they started being dual-audio more regularly and release worldwide at the same time is that very few of my JP retro games have a ton of value, whereas the US versions of the same games are $$$$ because they had lower print runs and most of the collector fanbase is English speaking.

Not only did the JP versions cost like $20-30 more at release than the US versions, but now they're worth less!

I remember Radiant Silvergun (Saturn) and SMT3 Maniax (PS2) being of a couple of the rare JP games actually worth anything.

You'd be surprised, there are some games that are common as dirt in the US (such as Battletoads, Contra, Castlevania, and a lot of later Mega Drive games) whose Japanese versions are worth a lot of $$. Shmups both US and JP are usually pretty expensive. It's RPGs that are super cheap in Japan while extremely expensive in the US - the popularity and ubiquity of the genre in Japan compared to when it was niche back in the US, plus readability factors into it.

Radiant Silvergun surprisingly isn't worth that much more than it was back in the early 2000s. I remember paying close to $150 for it and that was like the most I've ever spent on a single game, up to that point. Now pricecharting has complete for $250, which hasn't accrued value nearly as much as some of the other Saturn heavy hitters. I speak as I take a break from Magic Knight Rayearth, which I bought for $65 back in 2001, now worth 10x as much.

Yeah, but those beyond the era I used to collect. I've never had any interest in collecting games prior to disc-based media. I have like physical copies of the majority of the good Saturn/PS1/DC/GC/PS2/Xbox/Wii/GBA/DS/PSP Japanese releases, but only a dozen N64 games and I don't own a single NES/MD/NeoGeo game. I don't even own a NES/MD/Neo-Geo/PC Engine/SFC outside these new Mini versions. I only have hardware for N64 up.

It's fine, I'm not even a collector anymore and I just buy everything digital and don't care. Not like I'm ever gonna sell any of this stuff anyhow. But when I see people selling their collections for like $100/game for US versions and I have the JP version and it's worth like $5 I just feel  :'(

Even considering how easy it is to emulate AND pirate w/ flashcart, people are still willing to spend upwards of $200 on DS games

Nothing beats an original (tm)

I feel like this is pretty much millennials starting to have comfortable income and collecting stuff, plus retro & nostalgia is always in and videogames are cool now.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: bork on April 26, 2021, 08:15:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZRzaGFWoz8
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on April 26, 2021, 10:37:47 AM
Even considering how easy it is to emulate AND pirate w/ flashcart, people are still willing to spend upwards of $200 on DS games

Nothing beats an original (tm)

Pokemon is a slightly special case since "hacked" Pokemon are frowned upon, leaving cartridges as the only "legitimate" solution for getting certain Pokemon or movesets. A lot of people in the Pokemon fanbase are OCD or OCD-adjacent.

If it wasn't possible to transfer Pokemon from the DS games all the way forward into the current generation, I don't think the prices would be as high.

But it works for me. :P
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on April 26, 2021, 11:32:55 AM
The DS spike isnt just Pokemon, though

Even other platforms are stupid - PS1 prices are insane, and that's just as easy to emulate/pirate

Nothing beats an original (tm)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on April 26, 2021, 11:34:54 AM
I'm stunned that Shantae is MVG's first shipped game, I assumed he was a fulltime dev and did all the crazy homebrew shit on the side.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on April 26, 2021, 11:37:15 AM
I thought MVG worked with NightDive Studios who did those ports of Turok, Shadowman, etc
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on April 26, 2021, 01:27:20 PM
The DS spike isnt just Pokemon, though

Even other platforms are stupid - PS1 prices are insane, and that's just as easy to emulate/pirate

Nothing beats an original (tm)

Not disagreeing, but with the tens of millions of copies each game shipped, you'd think there would be less demand than some of the indie darlings. If anything the Pokemon games are consistently bumped up. I've got some anecdotes, too.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Nintex on April 26, 2021, 01:32:01 PM
I have a couple of rare DS games which have gone up in value quite a bit like Suikoden Tierkreis.  :success
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tasty on April 26, 2021, 01:32:34 PM
I thought Tetris DS would be super rare but apparently not. :goty2 IIRC it was only on the market a month before the license expired or something.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Nintex on April 26, 2021, 01:41:35 PM
I thought Tetris DS would be super rare but apparently not. :goty2 IIRC it was only on the market a month before the license expired or something.
Yeah it doesn't make much sense.
Some very rare games are still cheap and some common games are very expensive.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: MMaRsu on April 26, 2021, 03:29:13 PM
Please point me in the direction of rare and or cheap and or must buy titles for the Nintendo DS

I sold my DS like a year after I got the import version, I had like Asphalt DS for it and Mario 64 DS.

It took such a long time before the DS ball really got going, and by that time I think I stepped over to a PSP+Lumines
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on April 26, 2021, 03:49:16 PM
Just get a flashcart duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Nintex on April 26, 2021, 07:10:25 PM
DS had a bunch of great games for its time. Not sure how well they hold up anymore.

For example Zelda Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks were already weak entries on release relying heavily on the touch screen control gimmicks which were new at the time.
Kirby's Canvas Curse is probably my favorite 'touch' game and perhaps the best touch controlled game on the system.

GTA Chinatown Wars has been ported to a number of better systems. Metroid Prime Hunters was an impressive tech demo but a very repetitive game.
Square Enix released a bunch of great remakes and remasters like Chrono Trigger but since then a number of those titles have been remade again for other systems.

The Castlevania games are certainly worth it, Fire Emblem, Pokemon etc. but Nintendo was at this weird time in their history when they started to experiment with stuff like Nintendogs and New Super Mario Bros. while the GameCube was burning in the background.
It has a very dissapointing to 'sequel' to Yoshi's Island called  Yoshi's Island DS, a Golden Sun sequel that basically ended the franchise and the surprisingly good Metroid Prime Pinball. Two 2D Sonic's that were pretty awesome and a very dissapointing Sonic RPG by BioWare. It revisited both PlayStation 1 era 3D gaming and the very best of the SNES. Contra 4, a sequel to Okami, the best Tony Hawk game since Tony Hawk 2(?) and the worst Kingdom Hearts game all on the same system.  :doge

A rabbit hole that has no end or bounds, literally because the licensed Alice in Wonderland game is a hidden gem. Yes, you could even hit the lottery with licensed games.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Bebpo on April 26, 2021, 08:59:45 PM
So I tried SaGa 2/3 DS on 3DS XL (ewww), on 3DS regular (okay) and then I tried an emulator for the first time in 10+ years with a DS Emulator and HOLY FUCKING SHIT WHAT how does it take this mess of pixels and make clean looking detailed polygons with perfect IQ? This GPU scaling thing is fucking nuts.

Also bigger screen + smooth framerate, uhhh yeah fuck original hardware if I play any 3d DS games I'm gonna play them on my PC with an emulator. There's just no comparison even if I lose the portability side.

Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on April 26, 2021, 09:32:11 PM
You can hold select/start while loading DS games to load them in the original ratio instead of being blown up on the 3DS
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Bebpo on April 27, 2021, 12:51:06 AM
You can hold select/start while loading DS games to load them in the original ratio instead of being blown up on the 3DS

Just tried this and wow, makes a big difference! 3d games don't look dithered af. Actually looks pretty decent. When I sit down to play a DS game will be tough to decide between that and emulator.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: MMaRsu on April 27, 2021, 07:53:45 AM
Just get a flashcart duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude

I dont want a flashcart lol
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on April 28, 2021, 12:42:49 PM
Here's a picture of an RZone and some games that I own. Featuring triple A IPs like Panzer Dragoon

(https://i.imgur.com/7LOvsx0.jpg)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on April 29, 2021, 12:59:32 AM
Just got a GDEmu for the Dreamcast, works a treat. Playing a bunch of Atomiswave games.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Almost all of them are incredibly bad
[close]

Also, Rent-a-Hero for Megadrive just got an English translation, FUCK YEAH
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on April 29, 2021, 01:07:02 AM
RentAHero has had an english translation for a while,

but there is work on the Dreamcast version!

http://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=32314.0
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: MMaRsu on May 01, 2021, 05:32:47 PM
Was able to buy a boxed Ocarina of Time for €30 🥰

The best game ever made
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: HardcoreRetro on May 21, 2021, 01:26:04 PM
Is the Nintendo DS retro at this point?

Anyways, found a cheap copy of Last Window. The sequel to Hotel Dusk. So I got that.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Tuckers Law on May 21, 2021, 02:34:08 PM
3DS and 2DS play DS games, so basically yeah.

Edit:  derp, I misread and thought you were asking if there was a DS retro clone at this point.  But yes, I definitely consider DS to be retro.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Quaker on May 21, 2021, 02:39:45 PM
Is the Nintendo DS retro at this point?

Anyways, found a cheap copy of Last Window. The sequel to Hotel Dusk. So I got that.
Yes.

(3DS is more than 10 years old so that's retro too now and GTA5 will be in...2 years.)

---

https://youtu.be/gwQouYZYdaU

Short interview with collector of vintage Famicom bootleg carts. 

:lol @ some "authentic bootleg" collectors clutching their pearls at modern bootleg repros.
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Sho Nuff on May 22, 2021, 02:19:16 PM
People who collect bootlegs are total loons, but who am I to judge?

Interesting video on PSX prices going through the fuckin roof:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QndkgjZJS5w
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on May 23, 2021, 03:39:05 AM
It's not just PS1 games
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Nintex on May 23, 2021, 06:52:20 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2BM2JTXIAg2YQP?format=jpg)

 :lol
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: tiesto on May 23, 2021, 09:40:11 AM
People who collect bootlegs are total loons, but who am I to judge?

Interesting video on PSX prices going through the fuckin roof:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QndkgjZJS5w

That store looks excessively high, charging double (or more!) of what even the "ripoff" retro stores around here or the local Facebook group trying to pull one over on an unsuspecting gamer are charging. Literally last week I saw someone sell Parasite Eve for $80 for instance.

videogames.pricecharting.com has Suikoden 2 going for $320 CIB, not $500. I get stores have to make money but yeah...
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 23, 2021, 07:52:05 PM
It's not just PS1 games

Yeah, just about everything is going way up. Dunno if it's widespread or not, but the local used game shop I go to has been picked clean of games for more recent systems [Gamecube, Wii, Xbox360, PS3].
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: demi on May 23, 2021, 08:18:33 PM
That store looks excessively high, charging double (or more!) of what even the "ripoff" retro stores around here or the local Facebook group trying to pull one over on an unsuspecting gamer are charging. Literally last week I saw someone sell Parasite Eve for $80 for instance.

videogames.pricecharting.com has Suikoden 2 going for $320 CIB, not $500. I get stores have to make money but yeah...

PriceCharting is a bad resource right now BECAUSE games are spiking up so fast

Quick search on eBay has Suikoden 2 ranging from 400-500 on average

(https://i.imgur.com/kk3L2tN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SPx88VP.jpg)

Parasite Eve for $80 is about average as well going off a quick eBay search

(https://i.imgur.com/sO9dnxp.jpg)
Title: Re: Retro Thread for old gamers
Post by: Rahxephon91 on May 23, 2021, 11:14:44 PM
Pretty much every retro game store I've visited in the last few months has had a weak PS1 or PS2 section, with the sought-after games going up in price. I know Koudleka for instance has always been rare, but rare use to mean like maybe $100. I've seen two copies in the Chicagoland area for $400. Something like Valkyrie Profile for like $550. It's pretty ridiculous and I don't see it changing right away either.

And a few years ago it wouldn't be insane to find a rare game for a decent price at these places, but now it's so easy for them to figure where the price is and like that video said, it would be dumb not to price them at that price. Also, people are clearly buying them.

Also, I rarely go to a store that has a good Vita or even PSP section.