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Title: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Tasty on January 06, 2019, 06:00:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz1w_uW3lSE

Out January 29, along with Utada's new singles. <3

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CxGJ0W8ynk

:nintendo :asuka

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"The ones you wish to save... already belong to me." :gladbron :dsp
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Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Nintex on January 06, 2019, 06:18:24 PM
They made a trailer of the final battle? Or is the final battle actually the beginning of the game?

Also is Xehanort(?) really Merlin or is Merlin Mickey infused with the soul of Riku in the Digital Realm?
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Tasty on January 06, 2019, 06:19:21 PM
That's Yen Sid you pleb :rage
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Nintex on January 06, 2019, 06:19:56 PM
That's Yen Sid you pleb :rage
I thought Yen Sid had the soul of Kairi captured in the body of Hercules.

Also did you know that all events in Kingdom Hearts 356/2 days are actually meant to be recorded and played backwards?
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Tasty on January 06, 2019, 06:26:48 PM
:ohhh Deepest lore
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on January 06, 2019, 08:03:30 PM
Just finished 2 on the PS4 version. Doing post-game content now. Then move onto Birth By Sleep.

Already finished 1 & COM on PS3. Need to hook up PS3 again to watch Re:Coded since it gives you trophies LUL

Need to pre-order on the XBOX ONE
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 06, 2019, 09:02:07 PM
I’m up to Agrabah. :zzz
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on January 07, 2019, 11:16:07 AM
I cant wait to see KH3's final battle. I hope they take KH2 and make it go to holy shit what the fucksville

The laser attack is still wtf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxN9sUN3LTo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxN9sUN3LTo)
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 07, 2019, 11:46:04 AM
I remember very little about KHII but I don't want to play it again. This should be fun.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: chronovore on January 08, 2019, 09:21:25 PM
Super tempted to buy the collection. I'm 51 years old. Am I insane?
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Himu on January 08, 2019, 09:44:28 PM
Super tempted to buy the collection. I'm 51 years old. Am I insane?

No, only weak to kawaii.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: chronovore on January 09, 2019, 02:18:41 AM
Super tempted to buy the collection. I'm 51 years old. Am I insane?

No, only weak to kawaii.

:uguu
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on January 09, 2019, 08:46:09 AM
Super tempted to buy the collection. I'm 51 years old. Am I insane?

The PS4 bundle is the best version so far ("Story So Far") but you:

- Wont play them
- Play them, get disgusted by the archaic mechanics
- Because KH1 is so old
- Try to KH2 and realise this isnt about Disney anymore (and also has the worst tutorial ever)
- Watch a story summary (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV2DcmIK1rU) and realise that LOST made more sense
- Decide fuck KH3 and pick up Resident Evil 2 instead
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: chronovore on January 09, 2019, 05:48:30 PM
Super tempted to buy the collection. I'm 51 years old. Am I insane?

The PS4 bundle is the best version so far ("Story So Far") but you:

- Wont play them
- Play them, get disgusted by the archaic mechanics
- Because KH1 is so old
- Try to KH2 and realise this isnt about Disney anymore (and also has the worst tutorial ever)
- Watch a story summary (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV2DcmIK1rU) and realise that LOST made more sense
- Decide fuck KH3 and pick up Resident Evil 2 instead

:based_demi
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Tasty on January 18, 2019, 08:45:10 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EElFaj4ezUU

Yo yo yo, the end of this :ohhh

Anyone know what Sora says? It's not in the English trailers.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 18, 2019, 11:16:06 AM
Super tempted to buy the collection. I'm 51 years old. Am I insane?

- Play them, get disgusted by the archaic mechanics
- Because KH1 is so old
- Try to KH2 and realise this isnt about Disney anymore (and also has the worst tutorial ever)

Demi is wise.

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I'm still buying KHIII  :(
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Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Akala on January 18, 2019, 11:31:06 AM
 :blessup
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 18, 2019, 04:30:47 PM
Just realized I never played the 0.2/2.8 prelude thing so I'm gonna get on that. If this terrible install ever completes.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Tasty on January 19, 2019, 09:38:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_Gu6Eg-QZs

Utada made Skrillex good somehow. What a goddess.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: chronovore on January 21, 2019, 11:30:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EElFaj4ezUU

Yo yo yo, the end of this :ohhh

Anyone know what Sora says? It's not in the English trailers.

Sofa: Whyyyyyyy?
Old dude: This world was a mistake.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Tasty on January 21, 2019, 11:40:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EElFaj4ezUU

Yo yo yo, the end of this :ohhh

Anyone know what Sora says? It's not in the English trailers.

Sofa: Whyyyyyyy?
Old dude: This world was a mistake.


!!!! <3

Ok, and the line before that before Riku talks?
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Tasty on January 22, 2019, 08:54:13 AM
Saw the ending.

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This game goes full on anime at the end (like it wasn't before...) and I love it.
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Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on January 22, 2019, 09:04:08 AM
I thought the ending wasn't out yet and coming in an update
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Tasty on January 22, 2019, 09:17:01 AM
Well the ending of what's in the pre-launch day patch.

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It certainly does leave the door open in like, the primary plotline.
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Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: chronovore on January 23, 2019, 09:12:13 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EElFaj4ezUU

Yo yo yo, the end of this :ohhh

Anyone know what Sora says? It's not in the English trailers.

Sofa: Whyyyyyyy?
Old dude: This world was a mistake.


!!!! <3

Ok, and the line before that before Riku talks?
Sora; "What should I do, Riku? I can't fight anymore. I fought (unintelligible)."
Riku; "Believe me. You can't give up."
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on January 23, 2019, 09:42:24 AM
wow that's hype man. i loved the part in kingdom hearts where sora fought (unintelligible)
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 23, 2019, 01:17:21 PM
https://youtu.be/cqnAx3gx99w
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 23, 2019, 04:33:58 PM
Finally got around to playing and beating 0.2, was a nice little refresher for BBS and the series in general. Seems like it leads directly into KH3 and Sora going to Hercules' world.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: bork on January 24, 2019, 08:33:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LpJnN9Imbg
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 24, 2019, 11:54:37 AM
I've only bothered to play KH 1, 2, BBS and 0.2 over the years. I played a bit of COM on the GBA but that's it. I'm not worried one bit about the storyline.  :whatsthedeal
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on January 24, 2019, 12:52:58 PM
You dont really need to play COM, its basically what happens between KH1 and 2, and by playing KH2 you already have a general idea.

Sora goes somewhere, deals with [some] Org13 members, gets shoved into the capsule, the end

All the surprises and explanations of the new characters are in KH2
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 24, 2019, 01:00:04 PM
You dont really need to play COM, its basically what happens between KH1 and 2, and by playing KH2 you already have a general idea.

Sora goes somewhere, deals with [some] Org13 members, gets shoved into the capsule, the end

All the surprises and explanations of the new characters are in KH2

Yeah, that's what I figured. I don't freak out over "you don't know everything you'll be lost!!" I'm pretty anti-handheld so all those DS/3DS games never interested me.

I do plan on running those HD movie summary things on the PS3 compilations in the background while I work for the trophies, though.  :lol
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: bork on January 24, 2019, 01:25:17 PM
You dont really need to play COM, its basically what happens between KH1 and 2, and by playing KH2 you already have a general idea.

Sora goes somewhere, deals with [some] Org13 members, gets shoved into the capsule, the end

All the surprises and explanations of the new characters are in KH2

Yeah, that's what I figured. I don't freak out over "you don't know everything you'll be lost!!" I'm pretty anti-handheld so all those DS/3DS games never interested me.

I do plan on running those HD movie summary things on the PS3 compilations in the background while I work for the trophies, though.  :lol

Dunno about the PS3 collections but the PS4/XB1 collections have Re:Chain Of Memories playable as a fully-3D game.  Can't remember if the 3D remake of it is something new or something they did on PS2 for one of the re-releases.

EDIT: It's on PS3 too.
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Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 Remix includes both Kingdom Hearts Final Mix and Re:Chain of Memories in high-definition and with trophy support
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on January 24, 2019, 01:30:07 PM
Yeah you should probably not bother with COM in any capacity

Though the GBA art is phenomenal pixel porn
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 24, 2019, 01:37:31 PM
You dont really need to play COM, its basically what happens between KH1 and 2, and by playing KH2 you already have a general idea.

Sora goes somewhere, deals with [some] Org13 members, gets shoved into the capsule, the end

All the surprises and explanations of the new characters are in KH2

Yeah, that's what I figured. I don't freak out over "you don't know everything you'll be lost!!" I'm pretty anti-handheld so all those DS/3DS games never interested me.

I do plan on running those HD movie summary things on the PS3 compilations in the background while I work for the trophies, though.  :lol

Dunno about the PS3 collections but the PS4/XB1 collections have Re:Chain Of Memories playable as a fully-3D game.  Can't remember if the 3D remake of it is something new or something they did on PS2 for one of the re-releases.

EDIT: It's on PS3 too.
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Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 Remix includes both Kingdom Hearts Final Mix and Re:Chain of Memories in high-definition and with trophy support

I've got the PS3 and PS4 collections. The PS3 version has trophies for the summary movies of 358/2 and Re:coded. They removed them from the PS4 version.  :lol

I've just got 358/2 running in the background as I work. Kinda listening, kinda ignoring it.

COM on the PS2 was a standalone budget release. I bought that on clearance but never bothered playing it. Oh back in the day when I bought too many games.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: bork on January 24, 2019, 01:39:37 PM
Yeah you should probably not bother with COM in any capacity

Though the GBA art is phenomenal pixel porn

Any others to avoid?
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 24, 2019, 01:40:44 PM
Honestly, just playing 1, 2, BBS and 0.2 would be fine.

Hell, 0.2 has a really good text summary of BBS that would do the trick as well. 0.2 sets up KH3 and is only 2 hours long.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Tasty on January 24, 2019, 02:30:40 PM
Seems like I'm still the lone person on earth to have enjoyed CoM's gameplay.

But then again I'm a Yugifeg.

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But yeah for real that spritework :delicious
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Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 24, 2019, 02:36:57 PM
The 2D sprite work in COM was legit, I'll give you that. Just didn't care for the card system and you know, handheld.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: MMaRsu on January 28, 2019, 01:43:29 PM
https://youtu.be/Owpv7wYB_NM
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Himu on January 28, 2019, 01:52:19 PM
The orignal KH is the best. Nice and simple.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 28, 2019, 03:02:04 PM
Yeah, the first one wasn't convoluted whatsoever. The second one tried hard but I ignored all the Organization XIII bullshit and it wasn't too bad.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on January 28, 2019, 03:03:36 PM
my cock is rock hard for tomorrow but i might try to finish BBS first since i already started that
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 28, 2019, 03:21:16 PM
Got my copy. Been in media blackout this whole time other than playing .2 which sucked ass. Hope it's good, have completely lost all interest in the series over 10 years. Glad Nomura is finally free after Versus and this.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on January 28, 2019, 03:30:08 PM
lol, he thinks kingdom hearts is over after this
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: El Babua on January 28, 2019, 11:25:28 PM
Just got it and played a bit of the first world.

Yep, it's Kingdom Hearts
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Positive Touch on January 28, 2019, 11:45:14 PM
played the first 45 minutes and the cutscene to gameplay ratio is straight out of the ps2 era

hell yeah
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: mormapope on January 29, 2019, 02:13:26 AM
This is butter face: the videogame. The cutscenes look like late gen PS2 visuals with a framerate to match. The visuals and performance during gameplay is usually quite beautiful. Playing on Xbone X.

The dialog feels fit for 10 year olds, I wanna skip most cutscenes after an hour of this shit. Sora is 10/10 annoying.

Playing on proud difficulty, chose wisdom and warrior for my starting things.

About two hours in, skipping cutscenes entirely is the way to go. Game is very chaotic and fun to play.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: bluemax on January 29, 2019, 03:01:48 AM
The orignal KH is the best. Nice and simple.

Except the gameplay is complete and utter ass, with some of the worst camera work and jump mechanics mankind has ever wrought upon this world.

If the game didn't have Disney and FF on it, it wouldn't have gotten a sequel.

(I'm forcing myself through it slowly, it actually froze on my PS3 after beating Ursula)
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 29, 2019, 03:39:20 AM
Oh wow, I'm literally in tears 5 hours into playing this.

It's actually the first GOOD FUCKING GAME SQUARE ENIX HAS MADE SINCE PS2 JC
Like instead of the last 2 generations of all these Japanese games and most western games trying for this cinematic dumbed down gameplay bullshit. This is literally pure KH gameplay++, you wanna fuse shit, you fuse shit, you wanna explore, you don't just run down a straight corridor, you want a million different keyblade finishers and spells and support actions and arghghh, you want flow action everywhere, YOU GOT IT.

It's basically a PS2 game on fucking steroids
AND IT'S GOOD.

Dream Drop Distance feels like such a half-assed effort playing this. This feels like what should've come after BBS. Really, really great so far and tons of throwbacks. This game basically says fuck newcomers, this is a game made for people who've been playing every entry since 2002.

GLORIOUS.

In a generation or two of so many let down sequels/finales to series (cough MGS4, Cold Steel 4, AC3, God of War 3, Dead Space 3, etc....pretty much every trilogy final game seems to turn out shit sadly), playing the opposite where it's a game that actually gets it right is making me so happy. Haven't had this much fun playing a videogame in a long, long time. Pure bliss. If I didn't have to work I'd stay up all night playing this. Makes me feel like a kid again.


Note that if I didn't know about the secret trick on PS4 Pro to get this to run at 60fps near locked the entire time I'd probably like it a lot less because the janky 45fps or 30fps framepacing. If you're playing on a PS4 Pro set your output resolution to 1080p and turn supersampling off; this turns the game from 1440p downsampled at 45fps to 1080p at 60fps. I feel bad for all the non-internet gamer people who will never find that out and never get to enjoy KH3 at 60fps where it feels and plays absolutely amazing. So.much.fun.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 29, 2019, 04:17:34 AM
Also I'll admit I was a little hesitant at the start because boy does that new Utada song suck compared to the classics theme songs of the first two.
But if that's the only fault of KH3, I'll let it slide. It's not even that bad of a song, it just sounds like the edm dance hall remix of what should have been the KH3 song.

*edit* actually listened to it a few times and it’s kinda growing on me...
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: chronovore on January 29, 2019, 08:59:06 AM
The orignal KH is the best. Nice and simple.

I think you mean simple and clean…
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Tasty on January 29, 2019, 10:21:50 AM
Lose, soon have nothing to~
Space, this is what I choose~
A mile, could you walk in my shoes~
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Tasty on January 29, 2019, 10:39:29 AM
Face My Fears deffo grew on me, and TBH I don't think anything will ever quite top Passion/Sanctuary. On top of that I was originally a bit disappointed by "slowness" of Don't Think Twice.

However, today I can only call Don't Think Twice a triumph. And combined, I think FmF and DTT stand up to the first two songs.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: FatalT on January 29, 2019, 11:57:47 AM
I just played this for 11 hours straight after the midnight unlock, send help.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 29, 2019, 12:49:47 PM
I won't buy these games until Disney acquires the WWE and Kingdom Hearts 4 has wrestlers in it
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: mormapope on January 29, 2019, 07:53:25 PM
I'm not really seeing much depth or variety with combat, encounters, or what you actually do moment to moment. Cutscene, mob of generic enemies show up, spam magic that's an elemental counter to enemies, hit the 80 button prompts that show up, mash attack to get those prompts back, and repeat.

Ive only put four hours into the game, but this is a very shallow RPG and a very shallow action game thus far. Its a beautiful and mindless game for me.

Also, the number of cutscenes that take you out of gameplay, only to show you an enemy you're going to fighting 15 seconds later....it's quite ridiculous.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 29, 2019, 08:39:05 PM
Do you want to just hit AAAAAAA?

You have a lot of abilities between flow motion, dodging, wall-running, standard combo chain, parries, different types of magic that actually make differences now (flame enemies you can't touch until you cool them down), party member finishers, keyblade forms which branch into their own moves and finishers (3 keyblades real-time switching like a DMC-lite game), ride finishers, link attacks, etc....

Pre-battle strategy based on abilities and AP usage. Equipment modifiers.

Like on normal difficulty it doesn't push you to be varied, but it's a hell of a lot better than your typical action rpg where you have like a 3 hit slash and maybe a fire spell and a shield. On proud mode I'm sure you need to be more careful too.

But then again I thought BBS had pretty darn good arpg combat, so if you've never liked KH combat this won't change your mind. It's just KH but even better playing.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: chronovore on January 30, 2019, 12:24:07 AM
I won't buy these games until Disney acquires the WWE and Kingdom Hearts 4 has wrestlers in it
(https://i.imgur.com/lfLmymgl.jpg)
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Trent Dole on January 30, 2019, 01:40:04 AM
https://youtu.be/AXIZ8ttQ79Y
Man I wanna fuck around in Toy Story. :-[ No PS4 or XBONE here though. :doge
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 30, 2019, 01:48:06 AM
Yeah, I got to Toy Story tonight and goddamn the visuals are fucking amazing.

Anyhoo, just wanna comment that I love how this game is so self-aware and trolling SE. It's kinda amazing. Like the fact half the shit I've seen in this game so far slipped by the SE higher ups is lol
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Himu on January 30, 2019, 02:03:00 AM
Bebpo this isn't linear corridor fest like KH2?!
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Himu on January 30, 2019, 02:03:33 AM


Anyhoo, just wanna comment that I love how this game is so self-aware and trolling SE. It's kinda amazing. Like the fact half the shit I've seen in this game so far slipped by the SE higher ups is lol

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Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Himu on January 30, 2019, 02:06:51 AM
https://youtu.be/AXIZ8ttQ79Y
Man I wanna fuck around in Toy Story. :-[ No PS4 or XBONE here though. :doge

HOLY FUCK my KH senses are tingling!!!!! it's not a corridor like KH2!
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Himu on January 30, 2019, 02:07:41 AM
The orignal KH is the best. Nice and simple.

Except the gameplay is complete and utter ass, with some of the worst camera work and jump mechanics mankind has ever wrought upon this world.

If the game didn't have Disney and FF on it, it wouldn't have gotten a sequel.

(I'm forcing myself through it slowly, it actually froze on my PS3 after beating Ursula)

KH1 has quirks and kinks like a wonky camera but the game is great imo.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 30, 2019, 02:15:41 AM
Bebpo this isn't linear corridor fest like KH2?!

It’s not open world but it’s no FFXIII HD is hard by any measure.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 30, 2019, 02:19:57 AM


Anyhoo, just wanna comment that I love how this game is so self-aware and trolling SE. It's kinda amazing. Like the fact half the shit I've seen in this game so far slipped by the SE higher ups is lol

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A few off the top of my head early on

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-there’s a title card for KH 2.9 before you hit 3
-there’s a total troll CG trailer parody of Versus
-and little stuff like the game starts with Olympus again, which is a running joke since it’s in every damn KH game but then they mix it up by being a new area and not just the coliseum

I remember a lot of other little in-jokes along the way. The team is very self-aware of all the KH trolls and has no problem poking fun at themselves. It’s great.

Also the fact the game opens with up-ressed PSP footage tells me that the team had free reign to do whatever they want without SE higher ups interefering. It’s kinda like the anti-mainstream newcomer friendly game in a lot of ways.
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Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Himu on January 30, 2019, 02:49:25 AM
Bebpo this isn't linear corridor fest like KH2?!

It’s not open world but it’s no FFXIII HD is hard by any measure.

I don't want open world. I want the return to exploration focused worlds as seen in KH1. Learning to fly was a game changer in that. Being teased by chests you couldn't reach and needing a secret, higher ability to get it. Flying through Hollow Bastion. The level design was fantastic.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: bork on January 30, 2019, 09:17:54 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BZMEdAIRY0
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 30, 2019, 02:18:09 PM
So I saw Era's all on how the game is way too easy and it's something I've been thinking a bit on normal difficulty but for different reasons. I don't have an issue with how hard enemies hit you, I'm in flashing red HP a lot and I died for the first time last night and it sucked because there's no checkpoints and you just reload your last save and lose everything you gained since then (I lost a level, some collectibles). Fwiw, I am running a glass cannon build focused on attack and I hardly ever heal so yeah.

But enemies die too fast for sure. Sometimes I never get to build up and use my coolest moves because the crowd is cleared too fast before I can. Ride moves are incredibly OP, but they're fine and fun and you can skip them if you don't want to use them. I'm generally not using the ride moves outside once in a while because I actually want to fight the enemies and not screen clear them quickly.

Personally, I think the only balancing the game needs on normal is standard enemies get an HP boost and adjust the cooldown time for triangle attacks like rides and team attacks and 2nd forms is longer so they don't pop as often. Bosses are fine, they have a ton of HP already.


Bebpo this isn't linear corridor fest like KH2?!

It’s not open world but it’s no FFXIII HD is hard by any measure.

I don't want open world. I want the return to exploration focused worlds as seen in KH1. Learning to fly was a game changer in that. Being teased by chests you couldn't reach and needing a secret, higher ability to get it. Flying through Hollow Bastion. The level design was fantastic.

Well the thing is you can pretty much air dash, wall run everywhere from the start so there's less specific platforming, but the levels are a decent size with hidden nooks and are fun to explore around and find treasures. It's not a hallway game.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Himu on January 30, 2019, 05:10:58 PM
Confession: I'm a closet KH tard. I've waned with the series over the years, but I'm very excited about this game. Real life is more important rn.

Anyways, is there music as good as this in KHIII for you yet??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EzHiNhHJcE

https://youtu.be/H3kc1pJBBGY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAAfsAb5ltw
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 30, 2019, 05:18:24 PM
I like the music so far, mostly just remixes of the movie themes which is par for course. One thing is that Shimomura isn't solo-ing this ost. Sekito and Ishimoto are on it too.

*edit* actually looking at the staff history, it looks like BBS was already Shimomura + Ishimoto so they're just adding Sekito into the mix.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Himu on January 30, 2019, 05:21:27 PM
Is the Pooh bear world still kawaii as all fuck? That was always one of my favorites. So full of charm.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: bluemax on January 31, 2019, 02:45:24 AM
The orignal KH is the best. Nice and simple.

Except the gameplay is complete and utter ass, with some of the worst camera work and jump mechanics mankind has ever wrought upon this world.

If the game didn't have Disney and FF on it, it wouldn't have gotten a sequel.

(I'm forcing myself through it slowly, it actually froze on my PS3 after beating Ursula)

KH1 has quirks and kinks like a wonky camera but the game is great imo.

I dunno, it's a LOT of back tracking through painfully small rooms (which I get they wanted a lot of areas, but cmon), some awful floaty jumping, and cringe tastic voice acting. Plus some Disney music on weird loops that make you want to break things. The gummi ship customization controls are incomprehensibly bad, and all the other systems just feel shallow.

Also it has far too many mini games.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: El Babua on January 31, 2019, 03:18:14 AM
The jumping mechanics and camera is still wonky af in this one, but you just gotta appreciate how much this team doesn't give two fucks about modern character animation standards, ie smooth and responsive, but restrictive.

Yeah, it can get janky but this really feels like a PS2 game.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Himu on January 31, 2019, 03:45:40 AM
The orignal KH is the best. Nice and simple.

Except the gameplay is complete and utter ass, with some of the worst camera work and jump mechanics mankind has ever wrought upon this world.

If the game didn't have Disney and FF on it, it wouldn't have gotten a sequel.

(I'm forcing myself through it slowly, it actually froze on my PS3 after beating Ursula)

KH1 has quirks and kinks like a wonky camera but the game is great imo.

I dunno, it's a LOT of back tracking through painfully small rooms (which I get they wanted a lot of areas, but cmon), some awful floaty jumping, and cringe tastic voice acting. Plus some Disney music on weird loops that make you want to break things. The gummi ship customization controls are incomprehensibly bad, and all the other systems just feel shallow.

Also it has far too many mini games.

I don’t have a problem with any of this and the rooms aren’t that small to me. Only real bad thing about it is gummi ship (which I still liked) and occasionally the camera.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: mormapope on January 31, 2019, 06:33:59 AM
(http://rs960.pbsrc.com/albums/ae90/shinypringles/1-31-2019_5-26-48_AM-enyven2f_zpsecbdpmnk.png?w=480&h=480&fit=clip)

Me and Donald are on the same page concerning these Disney broads....
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: tiesto on January 31, 2019, 10:59:18 AM
Gonna finally do what I couldn't back in 2003 and sit down and play through KH1. It's about time I dive headfirst into this series, it's one of my biggest RPG blank spots now that I finally beat a Pokemon game last year.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 31, 2019, 11:27:42 AM
Gonna finally do what I couldn't back in 2003 and sit down and play through KH1. It's about time I dive headfirst into this series, it's one of my biggest RPG blank spots now that I finally beat a Pokemon game last year.

Birth By Sleep's a legit good jrpg. KH1/2 are fun disney games. DDD is whatever but has little doggies.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on January 31, 2019, 11:45:37 AM
birth by sleep also has some of the most convoluted shit in KH thus far. melding, command board, science projects

KISS - let me just level up and get abilities. done
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 31, 2019, 02:38:02 PM
The game is stupid easy on Normal difficulty, but it's a lot of fun. My daughter and I got up to the beginning of Toy Box last night and she's having a blast helping.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 31, 2019, 05:06:02 PM
birth by sleep also has some of the most convoluted shit in KH thus far. melding, command board, science projects

KISS - let me just level up and get abilities. done

Ability/Magic melding was the BEST. It's legit the only thing that KH3 is missing. Lets you make all kinds of game breaking abilities/magic early on.

Like the only memorable things from Dream Drop Distance are the doggies and flow motion and KH3 keeps both of those.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: kingv on January 31, 2019, 06:05:30 PM
The game is stupid easy on Normal difficulty, but it's a lot of fun. My daughter and I got up to the beginning of Toy Box last night and she's having a blast helping.

When you say “helping”, does it have co op?!
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 31, 2019, 08:30:08 PM
I hope the success of this game convinces Square to just make some damn ps2 style games with modern graphics, because hey it works. I mean DQ11 was sorta like that too.

Imagine what an FF game that just played like 7-12 with super nice visuals would be like. Don’t need to reinvent the wheel, ps1/2 games worked.

This game is making me want to play FF15 tho finally with all its FF references. Maybe I’ll play that next.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 31, 2019, 09:34:22 PM
There are way more references to Final Fantasy than I expected. Cloud, Auron, Dissida NT summons.

The game is stupid easy on Normal difficulty, but it's a lot of fun. My daughter and I got up to the beginning of Toy Box last night and she's having a blast helping.

When you say “helping”, does it have co op?!

No, she just sits with me on the couch.

We have a lot of fun playing co-op LEGO Harry Potter, though.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: mormapope on February 01, 2019, 03:00:48 PM
I'm not really seeing much depth or variety with combat, encounters, or what you actually do moment to moment. Cutscene, mob of generic enemies show up, spam magic that's an elemental counter to enemies, hit the 80 button prompts that show up, mash attack to get those prompts back, and repeat.

Also, the number of cutscenes that take you out of gameplay, only to show you an enemy you're going to fighting 15 seconds later....it's quite ridiculous.
Yeah, with the amount of stuff the game pushes at you I can't say depth would be the right word. Or at least as far as regular gameplay goes.

I guess I was trying to get at the mechanics having the potential for depth (parries/launchers/keyblade switching/flowmotion/focus/elementals/meals) but in reality the game is a lot more of a spectacle than I'd like.

Still really, really fun though.

This is all very true. There's a lot of individual mechanics, with how encounters were planned and designed tho, it doesn't feel like there's intent or practicality for them.

Also, I find the world design to be really fucking weird. Going back to Olympus after finishing Twilight Town, and there barely being any enemy encounters, no NPCs to talk to, minigames are spread out in really peculiar places. With the size and vast emptiness of these worlds, I forget Im in a Disney location.  :maf

The spectacle during combat is fun, combat in general is fun, but I get a really heavy feeling that this could've been a 12-16 hour linear action game. In general too, and this isn't a flaw, this feels like a game that would be great for a kid's first RPG.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on February 02, 2019, 03:32:48 AM
A few worlds in now and maaaan, I really like this game. Nothing is too deep but there's just enough depth, exploration & everything is varied. The game constantly throws new mini-games and moves and spells and stuff at you (even with the gummi ship stuff) that it's always fun. The collectible hunt is pretty enjoyable too with the hidden mickeys and chests.

Like for instance
4th world in full spoilers
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I thought the Tangled world was just alright with generic rpg forest/swamp that all looks the same map, but then you get to the city and OH CRAP HD TOWNS ARE NOT HARD THIS LOOKS AMAZING. And then the dancing mini-game which was greaaaaat and then the final boss fight was pretty fun (knocking monster off the tower -> dive bomb attacking them is satisfying). So in the end it was a pretty enjoyable world. Plus they nailed the character models & animation.

Oh yeah and then the keyblade you get from tangled world lets you make fucking clones to whoop ass on an enemy from all directions. Good stuff.
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If the game keeps it up, might be up there with Bloodborne as my fav AAA game this gen.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Freyj on February 03, 2019, 02:34:55 AM
Post Game Spoilers

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There really isn’t one. Buy KH3FM in a few years I guess.
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Secret Movie Spoilers

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I like TWEWY as much as the next guy but if they wasted the secret ending for this on an ad for god damn crossover paid DLC I swear to christ.
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Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Trent Dole on February 04, 2019, 03:43:59 AM
Post Game Spoilers

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There really isn’t one. Buy KH3FM in a few years I guess.
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Secret Movie Spoilers

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I like TWEWY as much as the next guy but if they wasted the secret ending for this on an ad for god damn crossover paid DLC I swear to christ.
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Considering how goddamn long it took them to make this game of course they're going to milk it for a good while yet.
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Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 04, 2019, 12:05:28 PM
Finished up Monsters Inc. yesterday, today is a snow day so maybe we'll get through Frozen.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 05, 2019, 08:39:21 PM
Frozen world was boring as fuck.

And of course they had to throw in two songs. My daughter even thought that was weird. "Why didn't Tangled get songs, that's a better movie Dad."
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: chronovore on February 05, 2019, 10:39:05 PM
Frozen world was boring as fuck.

And of course they had to throw in two songs. My daughter even thought that was weird. "Why didn't Tangled get songs, that's a better movie Dad."

GENIUS CHILD CONFIRMED.

Tangled was a much better movie than Frozen.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Himu on February 06, 2019, 09:20:40 AM
Tangled is only better because because of the extra songs they put in Frozen which ruin the pacing. The snowman is a waste of a character and the troll people didn’t need their own song but yes tangled owns
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: chronovore on February 06, 2019, 10:14:05 AM
Mulan was also a better movie than Frozen.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Himu on February 06, 2019, 10:28:03 AM
The Lion King is blatant theft. I don’t think they’ve ever had a Lion King world ever in KH and I’m pretty sure it’s because it’s made by Japanese people.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: nachobro on February 06, 2019, 10:30:35 AM
Pride Lands is in KH2 and gave us furry Sora

(https://i.imgur.com/MLNYvcf.png)
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Himu on February 06, 2019, 10:36:32 AM
Oh right. I haven’t played KhII in yearrrrs. Not a fan.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on February 06, 2019, 10:36:35 AM
The Lion King is blatant theft. I don’t think they’ve ever had a Lion King world ever in KH and I’m pretty sure it’s because it’s made by Japanese people.

?????? i knew this nicca never played KH. sayin KH1 is a good game and now this.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Himu on February 06, 2019, 10:52:24 AM
:lol

I haven’t played a kingdom hearts game since 2 and I haven’t played that game since release. I don’t remember shit and 1 is a great game.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: nachobro on February 06, 2019, 11:05:45 AM
donald is a duck and yet looks so awkward as a bird ???
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Himu on February 06, 2019, 11:07:07 AM
It’s his bill that does it.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 06, 2019, 01:31:44 PM
The Pirates of the Caribbean world is gorgeous and those realistic textures on Donald and Goofy are impressive.

:lol

I haven’t played a kingdom hearts game since 2 and I haven’t played that game since release. I don’t remember shit and 1 is a great game.

The camera in KH1 makes me physically ill.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 07, 2019, 12:43:38 AM
And now I'm reminded of just how incredibly stupid the plot of the Pirates movies got after the super fun straightforward first one.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: TakingBackSunday on February 07, 2019, 10:43:29 AM
I'm having fun with this and all, but the run speed and general clunkiness of Sora's movement is throwing me off.  It definitely feels like an Unreal game.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: chronovore on February 07, 2019, 10:57:44 AM
Oh right. I haven’t played KhII in yearrrrs. Not a fan.

Just say, "Oh, right. I was wrong." and move on. C'mon.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 07, 2019, 11:07:56 AM
Oh right. I haven’t played KhII in yearrrrs. Not a fan.

Just say, "Oh, right. I was wrong." and move on. C'mon.

When has that ever happened.

Pirates world was awesome. Sailing around, checking out islands, ship battles, etc.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on February 11, 2019, 03:22:46 AM
Getting near done. Been in media blackout the entire time and sorta expected there to be more Disney worlds than we got. I mean I get from a dev/budget perspective the worlds are way bigger than in past games and for the most part a lot better plus they look amazing, but still, so many properties not included  :'(

Still really happy with everything in it except

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Thought the Monsters Inc. world was disappointing from my memories of that movie. Just a zzz factory run with like no story. Liked every other Disney world much better.
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And it's only February but definitely GoTY contender for me. Love how much variety there is in the gameplay and the graphics are insane. I also like how a lot of stuff is like simple versions of gameplay from other games like

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AC4 Black Flag and Vanquish
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Frozen world was boring as fuck.

And of course they had to throw in two songs. My daughter even thought that was weird. "Why didn't Tangled get songs, that's a better movie Dad."

I liked it, but then I liked simple SSX, songs, snowball stuff, puzzles, snow effects. Went on a bit long (felt like the longest world at like 5 hours) but had fun.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: bork on February 11, 2019, 04:45:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YVTBQCbezQ
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 14, 2019, 07:29:15 PM
San Fransokyo gave off some strong FFvXIII vibes, particularly those old screenshots we saw of battles occurring in "Shibuya."

Think I'm approaching the end game. Got all the Lucky Emblems and have managed to avoid spoilers concerning the secret ending, so that should be fun.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: TakingBackSunday on February 14, 2019, 08:00:06 PM
I just cannot get into this game.  The controls, battle system, and story/dialogue all feel worse than KH2
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: chronovore on February 15, 2019, 11:19:50 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YVTBQCbezQ

SELF INDULGENT
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on February 18, 2019, 08:29:37 PM
Finished this.

You know, yeah the end stuff is very rushed and underdeveloped and some nonsense, but for actually being able to take like 10 games worth of subplots and characters and wrap it all up, it's impressive. Glad it wasn't an MGS4-style trainwreck conclusion to the series.

Now that said, some of those final boss fights were grade A bullshit. SO MANY BOSS FIGHTS. I feel like the KH combat is totally great and fun for AoE crowd control during levels but 1 on 1 fights with enemies teleporting around and locking you in stun and piling on you is just ughhhhh. If I had died (and there were some damn close calls) in the last 2 fights I was ready to just youtube the ending to not deal with those fights again.

Overall Disney worlds were great, wish there were about 3-4 more.

Great game. Some really good highs, amazing animations (I love the frozen keyblade roller skate animations), big fun worlds, actual story conclusion.

Cons are the music is definitely a huge step down from the old games (whenever they play the KH1 opening music or KH2 Roxas theme or the BBS theme it's like night and day between the current stuff), could use a coliseum with cameo fights, could have less bullshit bosses/enemies, could have a few more worlds and have developed the original plot stuff more between them.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on February 18, 2019, 08:34:14 PM
Also I was thinking that entire endgame that if someone was jumping into KH3 as their first KH, they may as well just take the disc out and shelve it after the last disney world. That endgame ain't gonna make a lick of sense for kids new to the series  :lol
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on February 18, 2019, 09:04:52 PM
Game is stupid broken already - just spam Firaga lul
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on February 18, 2019, 09:07:51 PM
I thought it was easy until the endgame bosses/final bosses. But apparently I was pretty low level. I finished it at lvl.39 and wasn't able to upgrade my keyblades even halfway because I was missing an upgrade material that's only in chests that I never found. I hear most people beat it around lvl.50 with like max keyblades. But I kinda rushed it after the disney stuff was done because just wanted to see how it ends and not go back and explore around for completion. Finished it a little shy of 30 hours.

Also the last couple bosses are totally built around blocking and I was using the Frozen keyblade at lvl.2/3 all the time which ....has no block -_-
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Positive Touch on February 18, 2019, 10:53:36 PM
bro by endgame you're able to jump out of stuns and counter right into air combos
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Positive Touch on February 18, 2019, 10:56:54 PM
also this game owned. tons of creative variety in the different worlds, super smooth gameplay. lots of obvious downsides to the game but it's still fun as shit. we do need that Final Mix dlc asap tho Nomura.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on February 19, 2019, 12:17:28 AM
I just finished Birth By Sleep. Just need to play 0.2 and I'm ready to FINISH THE FIGHT
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Positive Touch on February 19, 2019, 10:07:50 AM
what about kh3d
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on February 19, 2019, 10:42:20 AM
I played that already on 3ds and no way i'm playing that slop again.

You only need to watch the last 15 minutes anyway to see the important shit

But for real though the special ending of BBS is an amazing setup for KH3. Got me all FIRED UP

S O R A (https://youtu.be/hPlBXoC_D00?t=448)
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 19, 2019, 08:04:20 PM
Beat the game over the weekend. On regular difficulty it was incredibly easy but also incredibly fun.

The Pirates of the Caribbean key blade ruled, too.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Positive Touch on February 20, 2019, 09:06:34 AM
i got the secret ending. almost made playing the bullshit mobile game worth it.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 20, 2019, 11:18:27 AM
0.2 is pretty awful, don't get your hopes up

I played it last year, and it's probably safe to say it was the worst "game" that I actually had the chance to play.

It feels really weird, and it's more of a cheap tech demo that feels like it wasn't made for the public.
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Also, has nobody else gotten the secret ending? :doge

0.2 was supposed to be the beginning of III, it probably wouldn't have felt fragmented if delivered that way.

I got the secret ending, too.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Positive Touch on February 20, 2019, 12:25:08 PM
.2 is just not very exciting and the controls are clunky. but it was like 3 hours long so eh.

as for the secret endings:
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setting up the old guild leaders as the new villains is eh because all of them are pretty boring except Luxu and the Master of Masters is fucking terrible. dude acts like a G rated Deadpool. having the next game's focus on Sora coming back to life is kinda neat though, and if they put an actual Versus XIII world in that would be hilarious and a lot of fun.
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Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: bluemax on March 01, 2019, 03:25:10 AM
I'm at the save point before the final boss in KH2 and I honestly don't feel like I would want to play a KH3 after this game.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: bluemax on March 05, 2019, 01:23:11 AM
Redboxed KH3, couldn't convince myself to play more than one day, think I'm officially burned out.

Buzz Lightyear is the best character in KH.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Coffee Dog on March 05, 2019, 01:48:36 AM
I really can't express the level of internal pain I experienced when I beat KH3 and realized that even though I've played like nine full length jrpgs and digested like 300 hours of this story over the past 15 years, the game that matters the most for understanding so much of the series currently is the shitty fucking phone game. Coded amounts to a couple lines of dialogue, BBS and 358/2 get a few rushed cutscenes, but Chain of Memories, DDD, and the phone game comprise the backbone of the plot, with basically every endgame reveal banking on you being deep into phone game lore. Kill me.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: bluemax on March 05, 2019, 11:22:59 PM
It really is pretty shitty that,

1. They had three "numbered" KH entries, as if it was a self contained trilogy you could play and understand.
2. The most important plot points were in the least popular games.

I would love to know how Nomura got buy in from so many people across Square Enix Eidos AND Disney to create this.

I don't think we will ever see a piece of media so batshit insane in scope and logistics again.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on March 05, 2019, 11:31:51 PM
All I can think is the mobile game is big in Japan where mobile gaming is huge.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Coffee Dog on March 06, 2019, 04:37:13 AM
Fun fact: if you download and start up the phone game right now, there's a popup that says "Hello KH3 gamers! Start playing through the story of this mobile title to see what  crucial lore you can learn! This boy is named Ephemer, and when you meet him the story really begins!"

"Note: you meet Ephemer on Mission #327"
 :dead
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: chronovore on March 07, 2019, 10:31:09 AM
Remember all the haters who said it's bullshit that Star Wars: The Force Awakens is enhanced by reading the Chuck Wendig novels or a couple comics prior to watching?

Ha, ha, yeah, welcome to 2019 where we're all drowning in ancillary media.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 07, 2019, 11:45:56 AM
Final Fantasy XV was similar in that all the plot was buried in a bunch of text menus instead of you know, incorporating it into the actual game.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on March 07, 2019, 03:40:22 PM
And the rest of the DLCs that got cancelled are being released as a novel!

But I remember this shit back when I was playing The Pied Piper on 8-bit mobile for Xenosaga ep1 tie-in, or ZoE where you had to watch the anime, play the GBA game and ZoE1 for ZoE2. Or Destiny 1 where you had to read the online lore cards. Game industry's been doing this shit forever. I'm surprised MGS never went in that direction and the most you ever had to play was a PSP game with Peace Walker. Portable Ops was like never mentioned again and the old MSX/NES originals barely mattered after MGS1.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 07, 2019, 05:32:00 PM
And the rest of the DLCs that got cancelled are being released as a novel!

But I remember this shit back when I was playing The Pied Piper on 8-bit mobile for Xenosaga ep1 tie-in, or ZoE where you had to watch the anime, play the GBA game and ZoE1 for ZoE2. Or Destiny 1 where you had to read the online lore cards. Game industry's been doing this shit forever. I'm surprised MGS never went in that direction and the most you ever had to play was a PSP game with Peace Walker. Portable Ops was like never mentioned again and the old MSX/NES originals barely mattered after MGS1.

The only thing that was needed for ZOE2 was ZOE1. And you probably would've been fine if you hadn't played it.

I've never seen the anime or played that SRPG GBA game, and ZOE2 made as much as sense as it was ever gonna.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on March 08, 2019, 02:57:12 PM
Just copped THE STORY SO FAR so I can play 2.8 JESUS nobody carries this shit
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: bluemax on March 09, 2019, 02:07:01 AM
Fun fact: if you download and start up the phone game right now, there's a popup that says "Hello KH3 gamers! Start playing through the story of this mobile title to see what  crucial lore you can learn! This boy is named Ephemer, and when you meet him the story really begins!"

"Note: you meet Ephemer on Mission #327"
 :dead

I downloaded it. You have to play 6 tutorial missions, then choose if you're going to download the HD textures or not, then sit through some more nonsense AND THEN it tells you that the KH3 stuff starts in mission 362!!!

The game requires too much effort when playing against trash mobs which is a giant sin for Gacha RPGs. I've only gone through about about 14 missions in 3 days since downloading this. It's incredibly unfun even by gacha standards.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on March 09, 2019, 11:13:21 AM
Yeah, I love KH and hate mobile and couldn’t last more than a dozen or two missions in when it came out. Mobile games are always so fucking long with 1,000 missions of the same thing over and over since they want to keep you playing and paying for months/years. Concept does not gel with me.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Tasty on April 12, 2019, 08:22:28 PM
The ride never ends.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/11d1TKd4ZKZd41pJKQ77bKz4YxJx8_Mojz2KMpNvTrvU/preview
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Coffee Dog on April 13, 2019, 02:12:05 AM
The ride never ends.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/11d1TKd4ZKZd41pJKQ77bKz4YxJx8_Mojz2KMpNvTrvU/preview

I dont understand the significance of this; theyre claiming the whole game is a dream but it happened anyway, while implying that Nomura is subtly hinting at the dream in ways that are so fucking subtle it would be entirely unprecedented.

We have seen, at this point, 15 years and over 200 hours od this man's work. He is not capable of subtlety. The only thing that has even approached that level of abstraction is the KH1 secret movie, which was designed as literally random bullshit that KH2's plot had to build itself around after the fact.

The next game is going to be a spinoff game where you play as Sora and Riku to set up KH4, just like Chain of memories and just like Dream Drop. The exact intricacies of KH3's science are entirely irrelevant to that, and no amount of "theorizing" has proven itself reliable in the past 10 years. When Nomura wants to make something known, its blatant.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Chooky on April 13, 2019, 07:54:38 AM
it's good to see that the "chrono is jesus" and "squall is dead" dummies have a new friend to play with, i guess
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Tasty on April 13, 2019, 07:29:12 PM
In the grand scheme of things it doesn't actually matter, but it does give some possible retroactive explanations for various inconsistencies and whatnot (especially around the gameplay systems.)

With that in mind, most of it is probably fans overthinking, but some of the stuff (particularly around Kairi and even the insane logo detail thing) could bear out in a Final Mix.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Tasty on December 02, 2019, 10:32:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4D_Cu9Ad0s

(https://i.imgur.com/6UsTpWIl.jpg)
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on December 02, 2019, 10:43:47 PM
This is an old trailer... but ok
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Tasty on December 02, 2019, 10:51:41 PM
You follow me and criticize me so much, it's flattering 💅🏻

But anyways, it hadn't been posted ITT, and it was new to me. :idont
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on December 02, 2019, 11:19:10 PM
What the fuck are you going on about? Is this your Seasonal Depression flaring up again?

It wasn't posted because nobody here plays KH to care about it - you included
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Tasty on December 03, 2019, 08:48:28 AM
That's true, I'm just here for the animu cutscenes :rejoice
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Tasty on December 03, 2019, 08:48:39 AM
And Utada :rejoice
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Coffee Dog on December 03, 2019, 10:09:41 AM
I play KH.   :goty2

I wish ReMind looked more exciting, but it's just cutscenes + bosses. Which is great! But kind of the bare minimum in a game with massive pacing/script problems.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on December 03, 2019, 10:12:17 AM
I 1000'd KH3 and plan on buying ReMind as well but there's still not much info on the content as it is
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Chooky on December 03, 2019, 12:31:08 PM
I'm hoping that Remind will be a full overhaul of KH3 like the Final Mixes of 1 and 2. 3 was fun but ultimately so shallow that it almost felt forgettable. game really needs some more variety to the gameplay and extra sidequests to give it some meat.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Tasty on December 03, 2019, 12:49:25 PM
Ehhh I think the DLC will just be DLC, and the Final Mix is going to happen later... Square isn't going to pass a chance to milk things.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Chooky on December 03, 2019, 02:34:18 PM
they sure are fucking up their chance to milk it with how long one dlc is taking. sales already bottomed out.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on December 06, 2019, 07:36:39 PM
Mmm yeah baby now this is more like it

Mirror before it gets DMCA'd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIehnOox7t0
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Chooky on December 06, 2019, 08:09:49 PM
aw shit boys is this gonna be KH 3.5? it's like they put in everything i felt was missing from KH3. WHERE IS THE RELEASE DATE


edit:
PS4: January 23rd, 2020
XBONE: February 20th, 2020
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on December 06, 2019, 08:12:09 PM
Lol, they brought back FF

Sephiroth fight is soooooo in.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Tasty on December 06, 2019, 09:46:24 PM
"I've been having these weird thoughts lately... like, is any of this for real? Or not?"

:gladbron
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: bluemax on December 06, 2019, 11:20:50 PM
Are they charging for this DLC?
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on December 06, 2019, 11:23:43 PM
Lol, what do you think hombre
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Coffee Dog on December 07, 2019, 06:42:33 AM
I'm really split that Nomura actually seems to be doing some stupid grant morrison shit with his cancelled games. Trailer ends with Sora and the Versus Noctis reciting the same dialogue = why


Other than that, this showed basically what you expect. A boss arena and a ME3 style ending enhancer. I'll get it, I'll beat it.

Are they charging for this DLC?

It's going to be at least twenty dollars if not more
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Tasty on December 07, 2019, 08:26:25 AM
That's not Noctis, that's Yozora from Verum Rex.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFFi7w2jOt0

Though fans *have* spotted Versus references in this scene, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Coffee Dog on December 07, 2019, 10:11:22 AM
That's not Noctis, that's Yozora from Verum Rex.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFFi7w2jOt0

Though fans *have* spotted Versus references in this scene, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yozora is blatantly Noctis.  :lol that post credits scene of KH3 shows Sora and Riku in TWEWY and Versus XIII, respectively, nomura's two cancelled passion projects. And now, Yozora, who is literally nothing but a noctis stand in from a fictional hit rpg series, is seemingly an important figure to the franchise's future. Nomura is dumbbb
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Tasty on December 07, 2019, 10:27:42 AM
Not gonna argue, and the Morrison comparison is pretty apt too. :lol
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Coffee Dog on December 10, 2019, 10:45:01 PM
The amount of content in this is worth nowhere near $30, considering how much of it is fixes for the base game. 13 boss fights and an epilogue chapter is seemingly most of what you're getting on top of that.

That price is some classic high on your own supply Square hubris, and even though I'll be buying it I can't imagine it'll be worth much more than half that for anyone who isn't a superfan.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 10, 2019, 11:27:53 PM
Is this dlc woven into the main game or some post game stuff?

I haven’t played through KH3 yet.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Coffee Dog on December 10, 2019, 11:46:23 PM
Is this dlc woven into the main game or some post game stuff?

I haven’t played through KH3 yet.

So basically, there's going to be a patch for the main game that includes new abilities, keyblades, and some minor gameplay stuff like photo mode, difficulty options, etc. There may be more new or changed stuff added to the base game with this patch, but there is no info yet.

ReMind is a $30 DLC that gives you:
-ReMind episode, an expanded/directors cut/not rushed ending
-Limit Episode, endgame boss rush stuff
-secret episode, an epilogue

The stuff you pay for is almost exclusively isolated to the end, but we'll see if the update does anything to the rest of base KH3.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: bluemax on December 11, 2019, 12:17:44 AM
Lol, what do you think hombre

Yeah, I should've known.

That's not Noctis, that's Yozora from Verum Rex.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFFi7w2jOt0

Though fans *have* spotted Versus references in this scene, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yozora is blatantly Noctis.  :lol that post credits scene of KH3 shows Sora and Riku in TWEWY and Versus XIII, respectively, nomura's two cancelled passion projects. And now, Yozora, who is literally nothing but a noctis stand in from a fictional hit rpg series, is seemingly an important figure to the franchise's future. Nomura is dumbbb

Who does Nomura have pics of. Remember when KH was FFxDisney and not Nomura's personal jerk off device?
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on January 22, 2020, 11:11:15 AM
The DLC is out on PS4. And it looks so fucking nutty and difficult. Yas queen

Watching this guy play on Critical mode doing the data battles

https://www.twitch.tv/cginfernoblast

Also Yozora is the secret boss and apparently Nomura made him really difficult and will make you regret your actions
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Chooky on January 22, 2020, 02:27:38 PM
I just need an estimated length before I purchase. $30 is a huge price for dlc and I don't want to spend that in something that might be under 10 hours of content
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 22, 2020, 02:40:38 PM
I just need an estimated length before I purchase. $30 is a huge price for dlc and I don't want to spend that in something that might be under 10 hours of content

Sounds like the new episode can be done in 3-4 hours. The extra boss battles probably will take way longer than that, but I'm in the same boat as you in just wanting to play the new story stuff.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on January 22, 2020, 02:58:09 PM
There's apparently story stuff in the Limit Cut and Secret Episode
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 22, 2020, 02:58:51 PM
Shit, I need to find time and play this over the weekend.

Never touched any of the final mix versions because you had to replay the whole game for the new stuff. But since this is its own thing I’m in. I suck ass at KH though and die on normal so I hope this isn’t too hard on normal lol
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Coffee Dog on January 22, 2020, 03:03:51 PM
The moves that they added to Sora's moveset are really, really good, and bring his mobility much more in line with his KH2 self. The update didn't alter any content in the main game, just enhanced the visuals in places (cleaned up CG, redid skyboxes, made some character models nicer), but it plays better.

I'll jump into the new postgame/boss fight stuff later.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 22, 2020, 03:05:27 PM
The moves that they added to Sora's moveset are really, really good, and bring his mobility much more in line with his KH2 self. The update didn't alter any content in the main game, just enhanced the visuals in places (cleaned up CG, redid skyboxes, made some character models nicer), but it plays better.

I'll jump into the new postgame/boss fight stuff later.

Sounds great to me.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 22, 2020, 03:05:33 PM
Can you play the boss rush stuff at normal functioning human being difficulty levels just to get through it all or is it stupid difficult no matter what?
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 22, 2020, 03:10:32 PM
Went to buy it on the JP store (since my KH3 is JP) and it's not up yet >< Should be up tonight though. $38 regular, $48 w/concert video. Dat JP mark up.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Coffee Dog on January 22, 2020, 03:17:20 PM
Can you play the boss rush stuff at normal functioning human being difficulty levels just to get through it all or is it stupid difficult no matter what?

I'm not sure if you can utilize them during the new episodes, but they added a bunch of cheat settings you can now use during the main game, so if it allows that you should be able to coast through no matter what.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Chooky on January 22, 2020, 03:31:36 PM
wait this doesn't update KH3 either? behind. the final mixes of 1 and 2 took those games from 3/5s to 5/5s and 3 really could've used some improvements. and 4 hours for the main campaign? I'll wait for a price drop. I'm sure what's there will be fun but that's just too much damn money for an afternoon of gaming.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 22, 2020, 03:35:48 PM
Can you play the boss rush stuff at normal functioning human being difficulty levels just to get through it all or is it stupid difficult no matter what?

I'm not sure if you can utilize them during the new episodes, but they added a bunch of cheat settings you can now use during the main game, so if it allows that you should be able to coast through no matter what.

I played through KHIII on the normal difficulty and the game was a nice challenge but still beatable. I knows nerds are gonna nerd, but I always see comments like these extra bosses being damn near impossible and wonder.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Chooky on January 22, 2020, 03:38:54 PM
the extra fights in KH2 were like raid- tier difficulty in that you'd get slaughtered if you tried to brute force most the fights. toy had to come up with specific strategies to deal with some of their moves. really most optional bosses in the series are like this so I expect that these new fights will be no different.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on January 22, 2020, 04:20:27 PM
Can you play the boss rush stuff at normal functioning human being difficulty levels just to get through it all or is it stupid difficult no matter what?

I'm not sure if you can utilize them during the new episodes, but they added a bunch of cheat settings you can now use during the main game, so if it allows that you should be able to coast through no matter what.

I played through KHIII on the normal difficulty and the game was a nice challenge but still beatable. I knows nerds are gonna nerd, but I always see comments like these extra bosses being damn near impossible and wonder.

I'm pretty sure you can play it at whatever you feel like. I'll be playing at Proud mode.

Also to get the new keyblades, Oathkeeper you need to find all lucky emblems, and for Oblivion you need to beat it on Critical mode.

But both blades aren't broken or anything, Ultima Blade still seems to be the best to use.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 22, 2020, 04:22:36 PM
I got all the lucky emblems so that's cool. Just wasn't sure about scalable difficulty for the boss rush stuff.

Still, $30 seems really fucking steep for what is there.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 22, 2020, 04:25:41 PM
Still, $30 seems really fucking steep for what is there.

This is a company that sold .08 or whatever for $30-40 and that was like an hour plus some old remaster and a CG video.
Atlus sold 13 Sentinels first 4 hours as a "prologue" for $30.

Japan gaming as usual.

I mean this is actually a discount, SE is used to charging $70-90 for a final mix version of KH games a year later. We're lucky they're doing it as DLC this time.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 22, 2020, 04:27:22 PM
Oh I know, and I don't see it going on sale any time soon, if ever.

YAY FOR DIGITAL COPY MASTER RACE.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on January 22, 2020, 05:00:17 PM
Yozora fight in JPN

He revives himself to half health

Mmm yeah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM-AuvbExi0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM-AuvbExi0)
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on January 22, 2020, 05:08:48 PM
Also Yozora's English VA

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Dylan Sprouse aka Zack from Suite Life from Zack and Cody

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/suitelifeondecksite/images/3/3f/293px-Zack_Martin_Deck.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20090617204757)
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Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Coffee Dog on January 22, 2020, 06:16:39 PM
wait this doesn't update KH3 either? behind. the final mixes of 1 and 2 took those games from 3/5s to 5/5s and 3 really could've used some improvements. and 4 hours for the main campaign? I'll wait for a price drop. I'm sure what's there will be fun but that's just too much damn money for an afternoon of gaming.

To be fair, the changes that they made to the battle system  of KH3 are pretty good (they gave a bunch of moves to Sora that the community has been asking for), but it's nowhere near as extensive as the many extra scenes they added to 2FM or the total skill tree overhaul of 1FM.

I still stand by my assertion that there's no reason to buy this  DLC for more than $20 unless you consider yourself a KH superfan. It's pretty short for the price unless you want to throw yourself at the bosses on the hard difficulties for hours on end.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Chooky on January 22, 2020, 06:52:59 PM
I do like how Sora controls in KH3, but his moveset feels very limited with an over reliance on aoe attacks and very few magic options. also felt like there was fuck all customizability. it was fun to play but very shallow.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 22, 2020, 06:53:38 PM
Did they ever tone down ride attraction moves and magic spamming?
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Coffee Dog on January 22, 2020, 07:03:35 PM
Did they ever tone down ride attraction moves and magic spamming?

On critical, you can take an ability for 1 AP that turns off attractions and gives you extra form changes instead. You also have the option to disable them through the challenge modifiers that they're adding when the DLC unlocks.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Coffee Dog on January 23, 2020, 02:42:38 AM
I...dont really like how this is structured? The main game's ending already has a part where you replay a section of it twice, and this takes place both after the ending of the game and is simultaneously a retelling of the ending but expanded. So to feel like you experienced the full story you'd need to play the game's ending twice and it's longer the second time.

Like, I was hoping more that Remind was an ending replacement, but instead it feels more like a bolted on extension.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: bork on January 23, 2020, 07:10:44 AM
https://www.gematsu.com/2020/01/kingdom-hearts-project-xehanort-announced-for-ios-android
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Rman on January 23, 2020, 07:33:39 AM
I had fun with KH3, but it wasn't anything special. It reminded me of a PS2 game--in a bad way. Is this DLC worth it?
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on January 23, 2020, 11:12:57 AM
The DLC is mostly for people who want end-game experiences, with the data fights and secret boss. The actual "ReMind" story campaign seems pretty meh for $30
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Coffee Dog on January 23, 2020, 01:56:15 PM
Calling it a story campaign is generous; it's literally just the end of the game again. You get to see all the same cutscenes again, with certain scenes extended, but it also definitely isnt just the end of the game because at the end you fight a different final boss and it also doesnt retell the final boss fight despite forcing you to replay literally every encounter prior.

This would have been so much better as actual extra scenes applied to the base game; it's like a weird, jarring clip show. Or viewing deleted scenes in the dvd extras. What it definitely isnt is an improvement.

It's amazing how the format itself assassinated the storytelling; this needed to be a final mix, rather than a seperate, disjointed experience. I paid thirty bucks for this, but christ i wish i just paid sixty for final mix and could resell my old copy. And new customers would be able to pay $60 for a fixed game rather than $90 for a story that is still told in such an awkward fashion.

The bulk of the new story seems to be located after the limit cut (boss rush) anyway, and thats where all the good fights are, so...what is the point of Remind? Why do it this way? Why not just fix the ending for free, for everyone, and charge me $30 for limit cut? The game is not better for this. The gameplay fixes and limit cut are the only things of worth.  :lol

Tl;dr Remind is three hours but theres maybe half an hour of new shit, a couple great new setpieces and fights. The rest is exactly the same as the end of KH3.

I am like,  :drudge red alert klaxons blaring :drudge asking you all not to buy this until it's at least half off. The boss fights are awesome but that's basically all you get.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: HardcoreRetro on January 23, 2020, 02:03:51 PM
It's called Remind cause it reminds you of the shit game you just played.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Coffee Dog on January 23, 2020, 02:15:31 PM
The biggest change of all is the gameplay improvements to Sora's moveset in the base game, and I wasn't required to pay thirty dollars for that.  :goty2
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 23, 2020, 02:24:48 PM
Calling it a story campaign is generous; it's literally just the end of the game again. You get to see all the same cutscenes again, with certain scenes extended, but it also definitely isnt just the end of the game because at the end you fight a different final boss and it also doesnt retell the final boss fight despite forcing you to replay literally every encounter prior.

This would have been so much better as actual extra scenes applied to the base game; it's like a weird, jarring clip show. Or viewing deleted scenes in the dvd extras. What it definitely isnt is an improvement.

It's amazing how the format itself assassinated the storytelling; this needed to be a final mix, rather than a seperate, disjointed experience. I paid thirty bucks for this, but christ i wish i just paid sixty for final mix and could resell my old copy. And new customers would be able to pay $60 for a fixed game rather than $90 for a story that is still told in such an awkward fashion.

The bulk of the new story seems to be located after the limit cut (boss rush) anyway, and thats where all the good fights are, so...what is the point of Remind? Why do it this way? Why not just fix the ending for free, for everyone, and charge me $30 for limit cut? The game is not better for this. The gameplay fixes and limit cut are the only things of worth.  :lol

Tl;dr Remind is three hours but theres maybe half an hour of new shit, a couple great new setpieces and fights. The rest is exactly the same as the end of KH3.

I am like,  :drudge red alert klaxons blaring :drudge asking you all not to buy this until it's at least half off. The boss fights are awesome but that's basically all you get.

Shit, I bought and installed this last night.

Yeah, I'm not super interested in replaying the old game (I generally have an aversion to replaying content I've already played in games because it feels like a waste of my time). So the "Campaign" is replaying the last 3 hours of the game with a few new cutscenes/set pieces/boss fights and then...1 hour of new story/boss fights/true ending?

I'm assuming in the replay of the last 3 hours they've tweaked all the XIII boss fights to be better/cooler fights now? So at least it should feel fresh replaying those fights? Or are the fights the exact same and those refreshed boss fights are saved for some data boss fights elsewhere?

I guess at the end of the day at least since I liked KH3 and it's a fun action game there are worse things than replaying 3 hours of it (and it sounds like there's no Xenohart in chess land fight again which was the only part of the last 3 hours I didn't like, that fight went on forever and was frustratingly annoying), so will run through it over the weekend.

If I haven't touched the main game since launch when I beat it, are a lot of things different now?

The biggest change of all is the gameplay improvements to Sora's moveset in the base game, and I wasn't required to pay thirty dollars for that.  :goty2

Am I gonna notice these changes or are they hidden in menus on critical mode that I'll never notice?
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Coffee Dog on January 23, 2020, 02:43:36 PM
Calling it a story campaign is generous; it's literally just the end of the game again. You get to see all the same cutscenes again, with certain scenes extended, but it also definitely isnt just the end of the game because at the end you fight a different final boss and it also doesnt retell the final boss fight despite forcing you to replay literally every encounter prior.

This would have been so much better as actual extra scenes applied to the base game; it's like a weird, jarring clip show. Or viewing deleted scenes in the dvd extras. What it definitely isnt is an improvement.

It's amazing how the format itself assassinated the storytelling; this needed to be a final mix, rather than a seperate, disjointed experience. I paid thirty bucks for this, but christ i wish i just paid sixty for final mix and could resell my old copy. And new customers would be able to pay $60 for a fixed game rather than $90 for a story that is still told in such an awkward fashion.

The bulk of the new story seems to be located after the limit cut (boss rush) anyway, and thats where all the good fights are, so...what is the point of Remind? Why do it this way? Why not just fix the ending for free, for everyone, and charge me $30 for limit cut? The game is not better for this. The gameplay fixes and limit cut are the only things of worth.  :lol

Tl;dr Remind is three hours but theres maybe half an hour of new shit, a couple great new setpieces and fights. The rest is exactly the same as the end of KH3.

I am like,  :drudge red alert klaxons blaring :drudge asking you all not to buy this until it's at least half off. The boss fights are awesome but that's basically all you get.

Shit, I bought and installed this last night.

Yeah, I'm not super interested in replaying the old game (I generally have an aversion to replaying content I've already played in games because it feels like a waste of my time). So the "Campaign" is replaying the last 3 hours of the game with a few new cutscenes/set pieces/boss fights and then...1 hour of new story/boss fights/true ending?

I'm assuming in the replay of the last 3 hours they've tweaked all the XIII boss fights to be better/cooler fights now? So at least it should feel fresh replaying those fights? Or are the fights the exact same and those refreshed boss fights are saved for some data boss fights elsewhere?

I guess at the end of the day at least since I liked KH3 and it's a fun action game there are worse things than replaying 3 hours of it (and it sounds like there's no Xenohart in chess land fight again which was the only part of the last 3 hours I didn't like, that fight went on forever and was frustratingly annoying), so will run through it over the weekend.

If I haven't touched the main game since launch when I beat it, are a lot of things different now?

The biggest change of all is the gameplay improvements to Sora's moveset in the base game, and I wasn't required to pay thirty dollars for that.  :goty2

Am I gonna notice these changes or are they hidden in menus on critical mode that I'll never notice?

So luckily, the new abilities for sora are granted from the beginning of the game. They're just available in the ability menu as soon as you access it in Hercules and you can equip them as soon as you can afford the AP cost. They're a part of the free update, so I can honestly recommend people grab KH3 (and play it on Crit) now that it's cheap. It's a better action game than it was a year ago.

But Remind...there's a few new bosses. But largely in terms of gameplay you are replaying the old bosses but as alternate characters. The crazy over the top redone boss fights are limited to the Data Battle Limit Cut stuff.

Coming fresh out the other side, my recommendation for playing this is really, dont waste your time. If you feel like you already watched a scene, skip it. I'm never going to replay this without skipping scenes now that I've beaten it once. There's some really good new scenes in the last half hour/hour (stuff that the base game needed, but this isnt the real ending of the game, so...) , but they straight up padded this to shit with repeated old content so that people wouldnt beat it so quickly and it shows.

"Messy shitshow plagued by weird development problems" is still my verdict on this. Honestly, my opinion of the ending has sunk even more now that they fumbled what should have been an obvious final mix style re edit by making it a seperate entity for thirty bucks.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on January 23, 2020, 02:53:16 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EO-3NORWkAAvLsv?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 23, 2020, 02:56:53 PM
Very strange.

I thought KH3 was really polished and well done but it was clear the endgame was rushed with too many characters and boss fights thrown one after another to wrap up subplots.

I would’ve thought this a remixed endgame would’ve focused on fixing this into a director’s cut more satisfying and better paced endgame/ending. But it sounds like it’s still a mess, just a different mess.


So basically the result of the last year of updates it seems is:

-base KH3 game is same good game but plays a lot better, same story and rushed ending. No story final mix cut, but gameplay is basically final mixed without new boss fights or gameplay segments.

-remind/limit cut a weird side bonus for fans that’s about 3-4 hours long of some new fights & story with a bunch of padding.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Coffee Dog on January 23, 2020, 03:05:30 PM
That's the long and short of it, yeah. If you didnt have to beat Remind to unlock Limit Cut and the data battles, I'd advise just starting with them and save Remind for a bored afternoon. Each of them has very unique mechanics and each an original song remix (!) and is clearly where all the effort went.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 23, 2020, 03:29:19 PM
Thanks. Limit Cut sounds good, so will just try to blow through Remind as quick as possible to get there and then enjoy that.

Definitely sounds like this should’ve been like a $10-15 dlc lol
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: bluemax on January 23, 2020, 10:28:25 PM
So I read some spoilers about the ending to this DLC and Nomura is either really leaning into embracing the concept of self mockery or he's going for an epic salty runback.

ENDING SPOILER
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https://youtu.be/lBYr5bSfXLM?t=780
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Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 23, 2020, 10:35:31 PM
I think people are just stirring up stuff to be dumb.


The Versus XIII stuff in KH is pretty clearly a joke/nod to their work on Versus XIII that got canned. People who think it's going to be some Major KH part of the next storyline is lol, it's going to essentially be a cameo bit like the FF characters in KH.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: bluemax on January 23, 2020, 10:43:01 PM
I think people are just stirring up stuff to be dumb.


The Versus XIII stuff in KH is pretty clearly a joke/nod to their work on Versus XIII that got canned. People who think it's going to be some Major KH part of the next storyline is lol, it's going to essentially be a cameo bit like the FF characters in KH.

I feel that's the most likely outcome unless they're letting Nomura go full batshit. But like the opening of KH3 makes a ton of jokes about how stupid the titles have gotten and how long the game took, and I feel like this is just self awareness of the ridiculousness now.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J97SaRCLedI
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Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 23, 2020, 11:57:38 PM
Died on the first boss of remind. Not great dumping straight into a fight. Don’t remember how to play.

Beat it on second try using items and healing and playing defensively but still was close. Need some grunts to mess around with and remember how to play.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 24, 2020, 02:21:10 AM
Ok, in ReMind got to the new ending world and the 2nd section of it. Gonna take a break here and finish it next session.

Got back in the hang of the combat and it reminds me that I really like the combat when it works and when it doesn't it's annoying. I can play DMC/NG: Black/Bayo on higher levels and can make it through Sekiro counters and stuff but KH combat at the higher levels/difficulty just doesn't click with me.

Basically when it's a 1 on 1 fight I enjoy it. I can learn the boss patterns and generally figure out when to guard counter/reflect and when to dodge and when to air dodge. My only issues in 1 on 1 fights is

1) I'll guard and hit the button prompt to start my counter combo and then a few hits in the boss will just not give a fuck and start a combo on me and do like 50% of my life or more. Not sure if you're supposed to just counter and 1-2 hits and then wait and counter again instead of counter -> mash combo out.

2) A lot of times I'll counter and then combo the enemy into the air and then they drop down to the ground and I'm just floating in the air and it puts me in a really bad spot because my guard only guards in front and the enemy is about to fuck me up from below.

fwiw the guard counter being only in front of you combined with the camera being less than great at tracking plus your moves move you around A TON and so do the boss moves make it way harder than most character action games for me to make sure I'm standing facing the boss in front of me at all times so my counter works. Half the time my guard counter timing is fine but I'm facing the wrong direction and eat a combo.

Now when it's more than 1 boss...it's a fucking mess. I'll be trying to watch a boss to guard counter and get hit from the side or back by another boss or the billion things of spam they throw out. This also applies to normal enemy mobs when you can't just mash through them. Like the first section in the new end world has these sword enemies that reflect if you hit their front as well as these flying ones with red cubes surrounding them which seem to reflect all physical damage? So if I just try to mash mobs I can't hit them and get stunlocked and eat a ton of damage. Ended up using the shootlock which I never bother with to kill the red cube floating ones and magic for the sword ones, but it's tough to track everything at once with the camera. I'm using the pirates keyblade (don't have ultima or anything). Also wish you could turn off ride attractions in normal (though to be fair they help on the harder mobs, but don't like them in boss fights).

I didn't really notice the 7 new move abilities that they added for Sora. None of them have button presses in their description so they seem like situational new moves but I'm not noticing them.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 24, 2020, 02:29:39 AM
In terms of ReMind so far, if my memory is correct and these are the new additions:

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+New opening cutscene with Master of Masters talking to young Master Xenohart
+KH3 Secret Boss at the start in Ventus bit
+Was the fight against Terra Xenahort with Sora during the Armor Knight fight new? Seemed new to me. Wish it let you play as the Armored Knight in that fight in this one.

Then generally the same for most of the fights? Didn't really notice anything new besides being able to play as Riku or Aqua. Is the Mickey fight new? I don't remember a fight where you do link moves with Mickey in the original? But then

+Being able to play as dual-sword Roxas in the 352/8 days portion is new, right? I don't remember playing as Roxas. Same with the cutscene after with the triangle and Xs? Seemed new. If so that's a nice addition. Really enjoyed playing as Roxas.

Then pretty much the same (is the 3 way link move with Riku & Mickey in the boss fights where you make the magic circle new?) until this last bit where you're chasing Kairi and fighting tough normal mobs for what looks like 5 sections instead of final boss Master Xen.
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If that's the sum of it, then I generally do like this director's cut version just because the 352/8 Days portion of the the endgame is fleshed out a bit better and more like BBS got. That plus the opening scene gives a better version of this endgame and it is too bad there isn't just a final mix version of the main game you can replay with this version of the endgame fights. The fights in this section are still really fun, great music and look great.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 24, 2020, 04:45:10 AM
Damn, beat Remind. That was awesooooome*

I thought KH3 had a pretty good satisfying conclusion to the whole series to date.
But man, ReMind's essentially True Ending route is way better and a fantastic finish to the series to this point. Really satisfying end stuff.

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And you get to PLAY AS MICKEY MOUSE AND LASER PEOPLE TO DEATH omggggggggggggg
Plus the team fight before that is super cool, emotionally satisfying and looks amazing

And the new final boss, while easy, is satisfying playing as Kairi and doing LOVE ANGEL WING attacks with Sora
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ReMind is a bit weird as a standalone, but it's generally all good satisfying stuff for KH story fans. Even without Limit Cut, this would be pretty satisfying. Took me about 5 hours looking at my save at the start and clear data save.
Between the free update stuff which seems to have improved/fixed the gameplay in the main game (though turning off rides ability really needed to be in lower difficulties) and ReMind which gives it an even better final world/ending, KH3 is a pretty darn great & satisfying KH game overall. It barely made my top10 list in 2019, but if I had played it now with the gameplay changes and this ending it'd have been higher up for sure.

*if you've been a fan of the series since KH1 and played all the games and been along the whole ride
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 24, 2020, 07:15:40 AM
I watched 15 mins of the giant bomb quick look of this and I think I caught autism :stahp
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: nachobro on January 24, 2020, 09:01:41 AM
So I read some spoilers about the ending to this DLC and Nomura is either really leaning into embracing the concept of self mockery or he's going for an epic salty runback.

ENDING SPOILER
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https://youtu.be/lBYr5bSfXLM?t=780
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wait is that noctis? wtf is this game?
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Coffee Dog on January 24, 2020, 11:16:22 AM
Also, The World Ends With You characters show up in DDD and in the secret ending to KH3 both Versus 13 and TWEWY are mirrored. It's not just Noctis, he's pulling pretty hard from his "Things I got cancelled" pile.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 24, 2020, 11:30:48 AM
Or he's just putting in cameo stuff from games he's worked on since those mean more to him.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 24, 2020, 12:33:03 PM
spoiler shots of all the gorgeous crazy re:mind ending stuff

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(https://i.imgur.com/Ts9nzdOh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/MOHsDjth.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/wQQXD2Rh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/SHY1rd9h.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/0RoUiFah.jpg)
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Ending definitely gave me good feels.

Also

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Sora jesus cuddling dying mickey shot lolll

(https://i.imgur.com/Zwm11yAh.jpg)
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Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Coffee Dog on January 24, 2020, 01:40:14 PM
Or he's just putting in cameo stuff from games he's worked on since those mean more to him.

I'm just saying, as far as Nomura is concerned, Versus XIII and TWEWY2 are just sleeping worlds that live on inside of his heart, ready for Sora to wake them up. :heart
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 24, 2020, 09:35:46 PM
So I tried limit cut and it.does.not.fuck.around.

I sorta hoped/thought that it would only be insane high level fights on critical for critical players and normal difficulty fights would be more normal. But nope, die in like 5 seconds. About 100x harder than any Re:Mind boss.
So instead of being sane and normal since I've never done anything in KH above normal. The hardcore character action purist in me decided to keep retrying the first fight I tried (young Xehanort, first door on the left) over and over and over for 2 hours straight until I learned every fucking move and combo he does and could parry every hit of them in my sleep.

The most annoying bit is I got the first half of the fight down like 99% and could parry and counter every freaking attack and felt good about myself. But then in the second half he changed up his combo and its timings and he'd basically instant kill me 2-3 mins into the fight before I could even learn any of his 2nd half stuff. Repeat for another 30-60 mins of doing the first 2-3 mins perfect and then dying in one combo on the second half ><

In the run I beat him I figured out that his new combo, at least with my setup, HAS NO OPENINGS and it was better to just parry it all and wait for him to do something else which has openings afterwards that you can counter back.

https://youtu.be/3rK0PLWcrd8

Oh and not having played critical or KH2 FM data stuff, what was fucking me up in KH vs other character action games is I'd guard & counter and when I did my counter move I'd eat their next hit and die. I learned after a bit that the safest way to play this kind of damage level Kingdom Hearts is you figure out how many hits their combo/move is and then parry them all until the last one and then counter after the last hit, otherwise you're gonna counter into their next hit and eat it and die. I sorta thought it was like character action games where when you guard counter you're basically invincible to hit on the counter.

Another thing that was probably fucking me is my gear is SHIT since I just played the original game normally and didn't go for any endgame gear. My keyblade is from Pirates and is only at lvl.2 or 3 with 8 attack damage and 5 magic damage. My defense stuff is like 2 DEF, 4 DEF, 5 DEF items equipped and my accessories are mostly just AP+ ones. I'm lvl.42 and not using any food (don't have any). I feel like if I for instance, had the Ultima keyblade (I have over 55 unique items of the 58 needed to unlock it, so just need to find 3 or less) + better DEF gear items & accessories and was maybe some levels higher I'd be doing a lot more damage speeding it up and also taking less making it easier to survive.

If I decide to do any of the other data battles I think I'll load up my save in the main KH game and try to gear up and level up some first before doing the rest.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on January 24, 2020, 09:49:47 PM
Get good pussy, welcome to the real Kingdom Hearts
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Chooky on January 24, 2020, 10:46:51 PM
jacknicholsonnod.gif

it sounds silly to say and no one ever fucking believes it, but hardcore KH stuff gives DMC a run for it's money
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 24, 2020, 11:38:34 PM
haha, but yeah it sounds like I was really, really underleveled and geared which was probably making it 2x as hard as it should've been. Been leveling since and got from 42->51 and now gonna spend a few hours trying to make the ultima weapon before I go back and attempt the other data battles.

I never cleared out the endgame KH3 stuff, so I guess now I am! I heard I gotta do a bunch of shitty mini-games though to get the ultima weapon mats so I'll see if that destroys my will to play more.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on January 24, 2020, 11:54:39 PM
Oathkeeper is probably easier to get and it's "just as good" as Ultima
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 25, 2020, 12:04:57 AM
Ah, that's the hidden mickeys one, right?

Probably faster, but also requires wasting a bunch of hours doing dumb stuff (using a guide and getting all the lucky emblems), so will only go for it if the minigames give me trouble.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 25, 2020, 01:44:51 AM
Ok, just looked into all the shit you have to do to get the ultima weapon. This would take a dozen hours of misery. NOPE.

Gonna go get all the lucky emblems and get Oathbringer instead.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 25, 2020, 05:05:17 AM
Grinded to lvl.99, but was kinda pointless because these fights still seem pretty near impossible going in blind. I beat one other after a few tries and a couple got to the 2nd half phases, but there's a lot where I couldn't even figure out wtf was going on and how to get an attack in. So much unguardable shit and my general reaction when anything is coming towards me is to guard, also everything just moves so lightning fast and extremely high damage.

Will check out some guides for the fights to figure out the movesets and what is going on, but probably done with this. This kind of KH gameplay isn't really my cup of tea. Feels way harder than even the endgame Sekiro stuff because KH's data battles move so much faster, have tons of projectile spam everywhere and there's less time to react to things. Seems punishingly hard for masochists only.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on January 25, 2020, 11:54:14 AM
Yea bitch stay in your lane
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Coffee Dog on January 25, 2020, 12:31:31 PM
Yeah, as much as I like pushing KH3's combat to the limit, the insane amount of armor and projectile spam from these bosses just destroys your ability to press the attack and go on the offensive, which means that for every boss the strategy is the same; playing totally defensive and die over and over until you learn to block everything.

Games like metal gear rising and devil may cry usually give you more decision making or opportunities to...do something. Parry or attack from range or whatever. In these fights if you deviate from the gameplan you just get your ass slapped for half your health if youre lucky, down to second chance if not, and the boss just armors through making your attack pointless because you dont get anything out of it.

I'm still on my proud save and I'll kill them all, even though I only beat Riku so far. I paid thirty bucks and I swear on Nomura's soul that I'll extract every cent of value from this shit. I dont have the secret boss spoiled yet so I'm insistent on this.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 25, 2020, 01:07:46 PM
I watched some vids of the fights and ultima weapon really seems essential. The vids I'm watching they're doing 2 full lifebars of damage per combo and melting the limit cut bosses so fast that they skip a lot of the tougher boss mechanics (plus these fights are endurance matches to survive). Use ultima for a few successful counter combos -> simba to skip the really hard DM sections -> get a couple combos and fights over. Even at level 99 with just generic mid-level keyblade I do about 1 lifebar on a succesful counter combo.

I looked it up since I never needed to max out my keyblades in the main story and most of the mats I'm missing are from...the gummi ship segments???
no wonder, I didn't spend much time in the gummi ship. Also that seems really stupid to put your main weapon upgrade mats there instead of drops from enemies you fight.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Coffee Dog on January 25, 2020, 01:15:14 PM
All the keyblade upgrade stuff you get from blowing up rocks, so at least it doesnt take long. You dont have to go get in fights, just load the gummi map and find an asteroid belt.

 I dont have ultima myself, but maximized oathkeeper is clearly the MVP and a step ahead of the main game blades, so i'm just using that.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 25, 2020, 01:27:02 PM
Yeah oathbringer sounds good, but all the vids I'm watching people are using ultima, so it seems slightly better but don't have either so can't compare. Since there's no way I'm getting Ultima, getting Oathbringer is probably my only chance for a good weapon.

Like on Vanitas I got his initial moves down, but when he goes in the battle cage DM I die. I watched a clear vid and they kill him before he even gets to the 2nd DM (with the keyblade riding being the first DM), so the vid wasn't really helpful for learning how to survive that bit lol
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on January 25, 2020, 01:53:29 PM
Endgame content for endgame gear. How weird
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 25, 2020, 06:38:49 PM
Endgame content for endgame gear. How weird

When you gonna play this demi.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on January 25, 2020, 07:18:39 PM
When it comes out for Xbox
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 25, 2020, 07:29:58 PM
When it comes out for Xbox

Oh, didn't realize the xbox one comes later. Ok, good luck with it.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 26, 2020, 04:12:36 AM
I watched all the limit cut cutscenes and it's even more clear the Versus stuff is just a cameo/nod.

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Yozora straight up says to Sora this appearance isn't what I look like, meaning the Yozora character will be part of the next story but he's not going to be Noctics. That's just a cameo thing they did for KH3.

Also pretty clear next game is a spinoff like CoM/Re:Coded where you play through Riku, Kairi and ???'s memories to try to find a clue to where Sora is.
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Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Coffee Dog on January 26, 2020, 10:57:27 AM
If it's just a cameo, then there isn't a reason to make him distinct from Noctis. This is Kingdom Hearts, they could have just used Noctis. Instead they used a lookalike that calls to mind Versus, specifically.

Nomura is not anywhere near a subtle man, and
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having Sora, who is trapped in the land of the dead, fight a character from a dead game on top of a building from another dead game
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is a bit much to say it's just another cameo.

Edit: I also dont think this is "Salty Nomura" or Nomura raging against the machine or whatever other silly KH fans are assuming. I dont think the final boss of the next KH game will be Square Enix's management. It's Kingdom Hearts, it's going to have a positive message, even if its something as simple as "belief can give life even to something you thought was totally lost".
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 27, 2020, 02:11:55 AM
Spent 2 hours trying to learn Larxene (I already had beat her, but it was just lucky mashing so I wanted to learn the fight proper). This was my best run but I still had to cheese through the second DM with rage form.

https://youtu.be/GaPmboV8nFM

I don't think I have the patience to spend 2-4 hours per boss trying to learn their every pattern. The non-DM stuff is hard enough but doable (feels like a DMC fight), but the DMs are ridiculous and half the stuff coming at you is from off-screen so you're basically playing blind. Too frustrating for me.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 27, 2020, 01:21:35 PM
Ah, that's the hidden mickeys one, right?

Probably faster, but also requires wasting a bunch of hours doing dumb stuff (using a guide and getting all the lucky emblems), so will only go for it if the minigames give me trouble.

Lucky Emblems weren't hard to get and didn't take much time. I beat the game in 36 hours and that included getting the LEs.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on January 27, 2020, 03:11:08 PM
Oathbringer and the accessory/def gear from the lucky emblems makes a big difference. I googled on youtube to find videos of good players doing the Larxene fight so I could watch how they get through the DMs that I couldn't figure out.

What I found was every goddamn video of Larxene on youtube was someone playing 1000x worse than I did in my video. They don't know any of her attacks, how to dodge/guard them, how to counter them, they literally just use Oathbringer or Ultima weapon and fucking mash the fights using air recovery to get in combos and healing and win.  :doge I couldn't find one fucking player that actually was playing the fight right and avoiding the enemy attacks. They do this on the secret boss because you have to, but on bosses like Larxene, you can mash through it with OP gear.

It definitely discourages me from wanting to play this when I feel like I'm putting in hours of effort learning the fights, and most people are just blitzing through mashing them with great gear and still win. I either need to gear up or give up at this point.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on January 27, 2020, 03:35:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3ZMwY-qW3c
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Chooky on January 27, 2020, 07:35:38 PM
Oathbringer and the accessory/def gear from the lucky emblems makes a big difference. I googled on youtube to find videos of good players doing the Larxene fight so I could watch how they get through the DMs that I couldn't figure out.

What I found was every goddamn video of Larxene on youtube was someone playing 1000x worse than I did in my video. They don't know any of her attacks, how to dodge/guard them, how to counter them, they literally just use Oathbringer or Ultima weapon and fucking mash the fights using air recovery to get in combos and healing and win.  :doge I couldn't find one fucking player that actually was playing the fight right and avoiding the enemy attacks. They do this on the secret boss because you have to, but on bosses like Larxene, you can mash through it with OP gear.

It definitely discourages me from wanting to play this when I feel like I'm putting in hours of effort learning the fights, and most people are just blitzing through mashing them with great gear and still win. I either need to gear up or give up at this point.

would sticking "no damage" in your search help? it might be too early for someone to have a vid like that up, but those are always the most impressive/helpful to me for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Coffee Dog on February 06, 2020, 11:12:06 AM
It has been damn near 20 years, but I killed Xehanort, kicked all thirteen of his asses. No ultima weapon, Proud, no kupo coins, no item farm (i just used hi ethers). Don't know if i want to dedicate an afternoon to the secret boss. The data battles were fun, but I preferred the 2FM data fights (and basically prefer 2's Final Mix style of additions to the DLC in general)

After you clear the data fights, you can talk to Cid and he says "A hard year's work, all for nuthin'!"
it encapsulated my experience with Remind so perfectly I wanted the game to cut to credits right there.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on February 28, 2020, 11:40:53 AM
When it comes out for Xbox

Oh, didn't realize the xbox one comes later. Ok, good luck with it.

KH3 DLC came out this week (Tuesday) and I sat down and played through ReMind (pretty shit haha) but Limit Cut is so fucking good. KH superbosses :lawd

I recorded all my kills so far. All I have left is Master Xehanort and Yozora.

LV99 / Proud / Ultima Keyblade / Fukkin Stacked

I had to play Flash Tracer because you can get an accessory that gives Stun Protection - no need to use Nano Arms keyblade. I also had the Snowman Rosette for anti-freeze.

If you're interested Bebpo, I used this guy's videos (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2k8yiHeC2ys_bIY9PTZ_8Q) and they do a great job going over the fight, and all the enemy attacks.

Here's my recorded kills - I forgot Larxene but fuck it she's a thot anyway

Xion (https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/demi/video/88917904) (also gave me the most trouble because i kept fucking up the timing on attacks - i also panicked here with the elixir at the end)
Xemnas (https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/demi/video/88917949)
Luxord (https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/demi/video/88917976) (this guy is stupid easy and it's basically a free win tbh)
Maluxia (https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/demi/video/88917977) (gave me probably the most trouble because I kept choking - you can tell i panicked hard at the end)
Vanitas (https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/demi/video/88917980) (has a kinda-cheese where you can use Thundaga to prevent his "flying keyblade" attacks)
Ansem (https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/demi/video/88917985)
Xigbar (https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/demi/video/88917987) (this guy is pretty easy too)
Saix (https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/demi/video/88917992) (probably the worst one legit - but i used simba and cheesed his dumbass haha eat shit)
Dark Riku (https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/demi/video/88917994) (annoying with how hyper aggressive he is)
Young Xehanort (https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/demi/video/88918000)
Terra-Xehanort (https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/demi/video/88917984)
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on February 28, 2020, 04:44:17 PM
Nice work

 :itagaki
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on February 28, 2020, 07:02:10 PM
Master Xehanort (https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/demi/video/88959778)

Master Xehanort isn't actually difficult. He uses a "set pattern" of attacks, you just need to learn them one by one. The pausing is me looking at my notes for what his next attack is. Lol

That and the dodging / timing is annoying for some attacks.

Just Yozora left

Also Xehanort is played by Christopher Lloyd in the DLC (since Leonard Nemoy died of course)
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Bebpo on February 28, 2020, 07:16:57 PM
I thought Christopher Lloyd was already someone in KH English Ver?
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on February 28, 2020, 07:18:03 PM
Nope - it was Leonard Nemoy for BBS, then some rando guy for KH3, and then Lloyd for this DLC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlo7sTITAa0
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Coffee Dog on February 28, 2020, 07:26:06 PM
Nope - it was Leonard Nemoy for BBS, then some rando guy for KH3, and then Lloyd for this DLC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlo7sTITAa0

Psh, Roy Batty's no rando!
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on February 28, 2020, 08:50:11 PM
He's a crappy Xehanort though
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on February 28, 2020, 10:12:05 PM
Yozora (https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/demi/video/88971943)

That fight is so fun. I pretty much memorized all his moves for the most part, but I also abused Ariel to get me out of trouble. Ariel my girl.

The clutch moment is when my Ariel was about to run out and I had 1HP, so I mashed Rage Mode (Rage Mode refills your HP) and survived long enough to use another Elixir.

Now I will work on these "EZ Codes" (kinda like mini-achievements?) and stop there to play Yakuza 0.

The last achievement pretty much requires a full playthrough, bleh.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Tasty on March 28, 2021, 11:57:12 AM
https://twitter.com/KINGDOMHEARTS/status/1376157373551742982

https://twitter.com/UnchainedStar/status/1376026935038504960

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNvTWohCFjI
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Tasty on April 23, 2021, 09:46:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F05SwdsT648

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The Nintendo Switch port that Square Enix does not want us to see.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on April 23, 2021, 10:43:36 AM
Switch cant even run that, sorry
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: Tasty on April 23, 2021, 10:51:10 AM
Switch Pro :rejoice
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 24, 2021, 05:41:36 AM
Switch cant even run that, sorry

Acting as if not being able to play Kingdom Hearts 3 is a bad thing.
Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts III
Post by: demi on April 26, 2021, 03:55:58 PM
Missing out on ReMind  :lawd