THE BORE

General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: ToxicAdam on March 13, 2019, 05:21:10 PM

Title: Most disappointing release?
Post by: ToxicAdam on March 13, 2019, 05:21:10 PM
What's the one that comes to mind when I ask the question? The one you had incredible hype for but were ultimately let down?

Mine was Jade Empire. I was a huge Bioware fanboy and wanted that game to be great but it wasn't.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Dickie Dee on March 13, 2019, 05:31:02 PM
RDR2
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on March 13, 2019, 05:37:41 PM
The Lego Movie Videogame

Came out right after the Marvel and DC games that had sooooooo much content and was so bare bones
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: ToxicAdam on March 13, 2019, 05:39:47 PM
RDR2

You being serious? Most people seemed to love that game (or at least the first half of it).

Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Dickie Dee on March 13, 2019, 05:44:33 PM
RDR2

You being serious? Most people seemed to love that game (or at least the first half of it).

I found it basically unplayable.

"Let's meticulously model a 10 second animation to open a drawer but when you try to talk to someone there's a 50/50 chance you'll just shoot them in the face"
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 13, 2019, 05:46:56 PM
Shenmue 3
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 13, 2019, 05:48:34 PM
Spore
Fable

Massive hype, loads of incredible promises, in development for what seemed like an eternity, decent-at-best when finally launched.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Svejk on March 13, 2019, 05:52:03 PM
Recently, Destiny 2.  Never felt such a waste of $60 before.

First time I recall being shockingly disappointed with a videogame, was Zillion 2 (SMS).  My 9 year old self almost wanted to cry from not understanding what went horribly wrong.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: ToxicAdam on March 13, 2019, 05:53:19 PM
Spore is a good one. I never even got around to playing it because all the youtube vids made it look so bad.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 13, 2019, 06:00:46 PM
Spore is a good one. I never even got around to playing it because all the youtube vids made it look so bad.

Animal creation was kinda cool, but all the phases up until the space phase were incredibly repetitive and dull. Even the space phase was only good for a while. Never felt compelled to play it again after I got that far once.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Himu on March 13, 2019, 06:13:36 PM
Three games stick out in my mind:

GTAIV - first new gta of a generation with new tech. As a massive gta fan, as many here know, I was beyond hyped for this game. It fell flat on all fronts for me, batrayed the spirit of arcade gameplay tied to the series, cut outright features and content and replaced them with nothing because “niko would never take on an ambulance side job lol”. The story was stupid, the world and satire of past entries had gone from whimsical and funny to outright tacky. I almost struggle to put it on this list because I’ve played it for over a hundred hours, it garnered two extremely well made expansions that fix a lot of what was wrong in the orignal, and the online was a blast. Very flawed game that has been ultimately forgotten to time because of its much superior sequel (as well as predecessor with SA).

- Final Fantasy XIII. Whoo boy. I could make a dissertation about this fucking game and how much it disappointed me, is a stain on the final fantasy legacy and the Japanese rpg genre as whole. There is nothing positive about FFXIII besides graphics and combat, and even the combat is lacking because of game mechanics outside of it such as being healed after every fight or the fact there’s no game overs and battle can just be conveniently restarted. The game eschews genre fundamentals. Things like item and resource management that the series was building up in previous entries such as XII, the characters and story have zero redeeming value, for the first time since becoming a fan the music was a letdown, the game is one endless dungeon but has absolutely fuck zero in the way actual dungeon design, you literally hold up for 40 hours. This was the first (and last) Final Fantasy game I sold. It is the FF that broke me as a fan. I didn’t buy a single Final Fantasy (besides X HD if that counts) until XV came out nearly a decade later. XIII-2, XIII-3, Type 0, haven’t played them. I’ve even barely played XIV and haven’t beaten XV. XIII ended a lifelong relationship with one of my favorite gaming franchises and the series hasn’t been the same ever since.

Suikoden IV - lets take a innovative and forward thinking game with rough edges and then give it a backwards half assed sequel where the main character runs like he’s wearing a shitty diaper. Let’s also make the story absolute crap in a story-based franchise and characters that have zero development. Game is doo doo in a series made of gold.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 13, 2019, 06:17:20 PM
Ah yeah, definitely GTAIV, too.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Let's Cyber on March 13, 2019, 06:33:28 PM
Skyward Sword.

3 hours of tedious tutorial bullshit to start the game and padding later on. Awful swim controls (and other waggle nonsense). The Imprisoned boss fights.

It had some redeeming qualities and I think it is ok overall but still a disappointment at the time.   
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Himu on March 13, 2019, 06:48:05 PM
The last mission of GTAIV was atrocious.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Rufus on March 13, 2019, 06:51:00 PM
Diablo 3

Like a dumbass, I tried my damndest to like it, too. Hundreds of hours of denial. :goty2
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: nachobro on March 13, 2019, 06:57:29 PM
GTA 4 for sure, Fable 3 is another, Sim City 2013 is up there, Final Fantasy 13 I want to count but I was pretty meh on it before it made it to the US
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Himu on March 13, 2019, 06:58:23 PM
Sim City 2013 ugh
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Bebpo on March 13, 2019, 07:04:17 PM
Some good picks here.

GTAIV - I really liked all the prior GTA games. Been playing since the first top-down one. Got bored of this by the time I hit the 2nd island and never came back. Just nothing to do and totally dull. GTAV was amazing and fun though.

FFXIII - Fuck this was bad. The music is great and the characters and group dynamic isn't bad, even the battle system is ok, but the gameplay is so dull it's a chore to play. Long copy/paste dungeons -> cutscenes -> long dungeons -> cutscenes. Oh and the actual plot was probably the most nonsensical and bad of all the FFs to that point.

Skyward Sword - So long and full of filler and dull. Game was so boring I quit at like the last 1/3rd and skimmed a youtube playthrough of the rest because I just couldn't be assed to do the rest of the backtracking. It looked pretty and that's about the only thing positive I'll say about it. I mean it's still better than the godawful Spirit Tracks, but I didn't have expectations for Spirit Tracks like I did for Skyward Sword. Thankfully, like GTAV, Breath of the Wild was amazing and fun and made up for it.

Cold Steel 1-4 - Long boring as well.


I hate boring games. I'd rather play a bad game anyday than a boring one.

Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Himu on March 13, 2019, 07:05:55 PM
Bad > Mediocre games. With a bad game you know what you're getting. With a mediocre game you keep playing to see when/if it gets better and it never does.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 13, 2019, 07:22:34 PM
Xenoblade 2-A terrible and ugly game that embraced everything I hate about modern Japan nerd entertainment. Shitty characters and an obnoxious battle system. Combined with terrible gotcha mechanics.

Metal Gear Solid 4-Wow what a terrible conclusion to a once great series. Hate everything about this game.

Metal Gear Solid 5-Not as disappointing as I already thought the series went to crap after 4 and was cemented in the fact with PW. But I thought maybe there was a chance. But nope, it's a Metal Gear game that took out all of MG's personality and left nothing. Except good gameplay...surrounded by crap.

Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Himu on March 13, 2019, 07:25:42 PM
Jesus, MGS4 might be the most disappointing game ever for me that I routinely kill it from my mind. Fuck that game. Fuck its gameplay, fuck its around the world trek bullshit. Fuck it for making a no kill run damn near impossible thanks to act 3. Fuck it its story. Fuck its stupid load times and songs while cooking eggs. Fuck everything about that game.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: nachobro on March 13, 2019, 07:26:33 PM
Xeno 2 is a big one I missed. Really a letdown
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: nachobro on March 13, 2019, 07:26:49 PM
also mgs4 and rdr2 rule suck it nerds. both are the best games in their respective series :hmph
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 13, 2019, 07:32:43 PM
BioShock Infinite, for sure.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 13, 2019, 07:35:50 PM
I had the sense to not play MGS4, but goddamn was MGS2 a fucking shit sandwich of a disappointment after the first one.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 13, 2019, 07:47:05 PM
Aliens: Colonial Marines is another big one. One of the few games that made me genuinely angry that I bought it. What a heap of trash. I still hate Gearbox for that whole mess.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 13, 2019, 07:48:01 PM
People sure seemed pissed about Mass Effect: Andromeda.

Personally?

New Gundam Breaker
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Bebpo on March 13, 2019, 07:51:40 PM
Yeah, I'll agree on MGS4. Weak ass conclusion to a cool series. MGS5 is good, but unfinished and it shows, so it's not great.

Xenoblade 2 I don't like and kinda hate played the last 20% but I'll defend it. Outside of the stupid stupid stupid field skills and gatcha merc missions and gatcha pulls and grinding blades to get them field skills or quest skills to do their unique sidequests/progress in optional field stuff; outside of all the dumbass game decisions it's a pretty solid adventure rpg even if I wasn't a fan of the plot or characters or battle system that much. Like I'd say Xenoblade X was more disappointing because the potential was there for a really awesome followup to Xenoblade and then you got like an open world with not much real stuff to do and barely any plot or characters. I think I went into XB2 with a lot lower expectations after that... I definitely enjoyed and had more fun playing XBX than I did XB2.

Personally?

New Gundam Breaker

Yeah, that was sad. I skipped it because everyone says it sucks, but I'd really like to place a good modern nice graphics Gundam Breaker.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 13, 2019, 07:54:00 PM
People sure seemed pissed about Mass Effect: Andromeda.

I was probably less disappointed with Andromeda than 3, actually. 3 was the better game, but the ending left such a bitter taste in my mouth and my expectations were way lower after that.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 13, 2019, 07:55:28 PM

Personally?

New Gundam Breaker

Yeah, that was sad. I skipped it because everyone says it sucks, but I'd really like to place a good modern nice graphics Gundam Breaker.

I'll just repost my thoughts from ERA concerning the subject...

Terrible constantly changing mission objectives every minute or so.
Arena battles all the damn time. What happened to traversing a map?
Horribly small text that is painful to read from any distance. Especially when making new Gunpla.
Gameplay still feels terrible compared to GB3.

What the hell was the development team thinking?? If it ain't broke don't fix it. It's like they created a separate multiplayer mode but then just decided "fuck it" at the last minute and shoehorned it into the single player campaign.

If this were a Western game we'd have heard stories by now, has anyone more proficient in Japanese than me seen any discussion of this on the internet? I'm curious.

At least there's Gundam Breaker 3 and all the extra DLC campaign content.

People sure seemed pissed about Mass Effect: Andromeda.

I was probably less disappointed with Andromeda than 3, actually. 3 was the better game, but the ending left such a bitter taste in my mouth and my expectations were way lower after that.

I thought Andromeda was just fine. I never understood the hate.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: naff on March 13, 2019, 08:04:54 PM
Oblivion was my biggest disappointment, was being hyped in my mid teens and the hype had me hook line and sinker. It looked great and I enjoyed it for a while but the levelling and loot systems were abstruse and banal, once you'd seen 3 dungeons you'd seen them all, and the Oblivion gate quests suffered from the same problem. Combat was much better, and the graphics were mindblowing for an open world game at the time, but really lacked the diversity and magic of Morrowind. This is also when i stopped caring about graphics past a point, and realised it's a small part of what makes RPGs immersive.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: naff on March 13, 2019, 08:22:34 PM
Also, yeah, FFXIII was a shitshow. I really appreciated the combat trying to innovate in a space with such a precious fanbase, it could've gone so much further and ramped up a lot quicker though. I really liked the artistic direction as well but also frustrates me how much resource was put into it. Too much time spent on purty graphix. Intro to FFXIII-2 was atrocious, I'm sure i would've enjoyed the game down the line but i couldn't stomach another slow build up. Also fuck Serah and fuck Noel.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: bork on March 13, 2019, 09:16:44 PM
I had the sense to not play MGS4, but goddamn was MGS2 a fucking shit sandwich of a disappointment after the first one.

MGS2 was a disappoint to me, too- never played through.  Enjoyed the first part with Snake, then when it switched to Raiden and all the Big Shell stuff...I just lost interest and thought the story was dumb.

MGS3 was much, much better to me and then MGS4...I barely played.  I remember starting it, feeling kind of 'eh' on it, and then the ending got uploaded and since I don't care about spoilers, I watched it and my jaw hit the floor when it turned out to be like 90 minutes of nonsense. 

MGSV was another disappointment to me, too- the game play is good but it being unfinished just sucks.  FucKonami and all that.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Himu on March 13, 2019, 09:32:45 PM
MGS2 is worth playing. Story and characters suck but the gameplay.

That sweet gameplay. :lawd

Dog tags. :lawd

European Extreme. :lawd

No kills. :snob

No alerts. :snob

MGS2 is the game that got me into speed running. My fastest back in the day was 2 hours. I mastered the fuck out of that game. If you're the type of MGS fan that just plays for the story and does one run, I'd rank MGS2 pretty low. But if you're the type that's all about runs, no kill, no alerts, and challenges, it's probably the best and most lean.

Play MGS2 Substance, Bork. It has amazing VR missions as well. In terms of gameplay it's the best MGS imo.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Bebpo on March 13, 2019, 09:33:15 PM
Oh yeah, since we're getting into disappointing finales, definitely have to mention one of the big shitshows which is Assassin's Creed 3. Bland af maps, horrible underground labyrinths for shortcuts, crap controls, terrible ending to Desmond's story. About the only thing decent in that game is the Haythem and Conner story which is fine and Conner got too much flak but was a fine lead. But the gameplay in AC3 totally fucking sucks + real world story sucks and what a let down.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: bork on March 13, 2019, 09:34:34 PM
Devil May Cry 2- They took what was a really cool game, with a likeable protagonist, and made it a dull mess.  Just crap.

Castlevania: Lords Of Shadow- I want CASTLEVANIA, not God Of War.  For that matter, most 3D CV games have been disappointments, if not all of them.

Omen Of Sorrow- Hey, wow!  A new 2.5D fighting game that could almost be a budget indie Darkstalkers, from a new Chilean developer!  Hey, wow!  IT'S TOTAL CRAP.  First game I ever returned to Amazon for just plain being shit.

Samurai Shodown III (PS1)- Awful port and possibly the first 2D fighting game released during the 32-bit era that showed how poorly the Playstation could do with 2D fighters and how much better the Saturn was at this, especially since this game used the 1MB RAM cart on there.

Marvel Super Heroes (PS1/Saturn)- Was a framey mess on all but one stage and a huge disappointment, since up to that point I always thought Capcom could do no wrong with their home conversions.

SNK Heroines (Switch)- Shit port job by Abstraction games.  Runs at half the framerate it's supposed to.  Nothing was ever done to even try to address this.  Occasionally will come across people singing its praises and can't figure out why they would want to play it on Switch over the much better PS4 and PC (also ported by Abstraction, but good) versions.

Assassin's Creed III: Playing as Hatham Kenway (sp) stuff in the beginning:  Oh shit, plot twist!  Kinda cool!  Playing as whoever it is after this: :zzz

Silpheed: The Lost Planet- As a kid in the '80s, I absolutely loved playing Silpheed on the Apple IIgs.  So when this was announced for the PS2, I was super-hyped and shelled out the big bucks to import it day one with a crazy Saturday delivery shipping fee from NCSX.  Booted it up and was instantly disappointed by what a dull, mediocre shooter this was.  I went onto Usenet to rant about Silpheed, then didn't check anything for a few days because of college stuff.  Went back to check on responses and found that Victor Ireland was calling me a troll and full of hot air because I didn't respond to his post asking me more about it, followed by a number of "boot-licking toady" ass-kissing posts siding with him and saying that I was just attacking WD (the fucking game was published by CAPCOM in Japan  :lol).  A few came to my defense but I was so disappointed by how Ireland had acted that I didn't buy any more Working Designs releases after that.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: bork on March 13, 2019, 09:42:03 PM
Halo 4 is another one.   Note that I only played the Halo games for the multiplayer and had been a bit disappointed with Reach, but still spent a lot of time on it.  Found 4 nowhere near as good, but would play it when friends asked to.  Then one day I just didn't care and told my friend I was going to keep playing Black Ops II and would be getting rid of Halo 4 shortly.  Also disliked the Infinite Ward-developed CoD games with Modern Warfare 3 and no longer buy any CoDs they develop.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Himu on March 13, 2019, 09:50:16 PM
I found DMC4 really disappointing upon release. I replayed the series 1 and 3 a lot. I never replayed 4, though.

While I never played the full game, Ninja Gaiden 3's demo broke my heart.

I waited almost 10 years for Persona 5 and thought it was a massive disappointment. I've never beaten it. It bored me to death.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Raist on March 13, 2019, 09:51:42 PM
Nioh.

TOO. MUCH. LOOT.

And it became boringly repetitive reaaaal fast.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: bork on March 13, 2019, 10:22:59 PM
I found DMC4 really disappointing upon release. I replayed the series 1 and 3 a lot. I never replayed 4, though.

While I never played the full game, Ninja Gaiden 3's demo broke my heart.

I waited almost 10 years for Persona 5 and thought it was a massive disappointment. I've never beaten it. It bored me to death.

Have tried to play MGS2 several times and just can't get into it.  I don't think I'm really all that much of a Metal Gear fan beyond MGS1 and Snake Eater.

Still need to play DMC3.  Keep meaning to and never get around to it.  DMC4 is just one of those games that I got at release, booted up, and played for like 20 minutes before shelving and never playing it again.  Need to play the SE version of that.  The thing is...I dunno if I want to since DMC5 appears to just shit all over them.

Another disappointment comes to mind from this- Lost Planet and Lost Planet 2 on PS3.  Shit ports with bad framerates.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: bork on March 13, 2019, 10:25:01 PM
Dissidia NT: Crappy game play that's too hard to follow with the forced three man teams and bad camera.   :yuck
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 14, 2019, 12:38:07 AM
MGS2 is so godawful. The story quite literally headbutts its way in and shits and jizzes all over what is otherwise incredible gameplay. During the last, absurd 30 or whatever minutes of incomprehensible, frustrated film student cut scene I got up, made a sandwich, came back and it was still rambling about god knows what. Kojima is a hack, and no one will ever convince me otherwise. Fuck him and fuck anyone that makes excuses for him.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: thisismyusername on March 14, 2019, 12:44:43 AM
I had the sense to not play MGS4, but goddamn was MGS2 a fucking shit sandwich of a disappointment after the first one.

Eh, MGS2's problem is Raiden (though only due to Rose) and the bait-and-switch in marketing. If they were upfront that you weren't playing Snake WAY earlier before launch, it would've been fine.

MGS4 however...

MGS1 and 3 are total flukes, though.

Dissidia NT: Crappy game play that's too hard to follow with the forced three man teams and bad camera.   :yuck

I'm actually playing the "Free" version of that on Steam right now, and yeah... the three man teams do absolutely jack-shit for the (IMO) already horrible Dissidia gameplay. The mobile app that is tied to it (Opera Omnia) is WAYYYYYYYYY better than this due to basically removing the "fighting game" elements that aren't fighting games and just making brave/HP attacks into a JRPG menu system.

GTA4 is probably the most disappointing release for me, though. Because the cars drive like boats, Roman is fucking annoying, and the multiplayer was eh.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Bebpo on March 14, 2019, 12:47:00 AM
 :lol

For the last 30 mins you either are down with the insanity of Scissors 61 or you’re not. There’s no inbetween. And yeah gameplay in 2 is really good but the level design is weaker than 1/3 with a ton of backtracking that drags sections. Also the boss fights are kinda mixed.

I like mgs2 but I can agree it’s disapponting coming from 1. 3 & 1 are the really great games in the series.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 14, 2019, 01:55:40 AM
I mean I'm a weeb gamer raised on the PS2. I love MGS2 and FFXIII.

Though I won't disagree with people's gripes with them.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Himu on March 14, 2019, 05:50:45 AM
In a lot of ways story-wise the series never really matched MG2 (not MGS2 but MG2 Msx) or MGS1. Even 3’s not on par but it’s close.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Borealis on March 14, 2019, 06:32:36 AM
Dawn of War III.

What an incredible trailer, and what an incredible let down.

 :shaq2

Relic's been treading on thin ice for a while now, so there's no room to even slightly mess up Age of Empires 4 for me.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 14, 2019, 06:42:08 AM
Xbox one
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Himu on March 14, 2019, 06:50:58 AM
PS4

- wack online despite the fact we are paying now, it’s actually worse than ps3 to the point where I do not play fighting games (my main genre) on PS4
- most games run and look like shit unless you have a pro
- being forced to upgrade mid generation for more power
- dual shock 4 is ass and one of the worst controllers I’ve ever used
- can no longer just put a game in the system and play. While PS3 started that crap not all games needed to be installed and in fact most games didn’t. Now any time I buy a game I have to install it. Plug and play is dead.
- system is, again, TERRIBLE for actually playing fighting games yet is the number one fighting game system
- current menu system is a complete downgrade from xmb
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 14, 2019, 07:01:12 AM
Twilight Princess
Destiny
Uncharted 4
Dragon Age 2
Hellgate London
FF13
Diablo 3
GTA4
Civilization Revolution 2
Fable
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: bork on March 14, 2019, 07:24:38 AM
PS4

- wack online despite the fact we are paying now, it’s actually worse than ps3 to the point where I do not play fighting games (my main genre) on PS4
- system is, again, TERRIBLE for actually playing fighting games yet is the number one fighting game system

Don't agree with this- the online is better than PS3 was for sure.  It's perfectly fine for fighting games, but if you're playing more and more locals, you might start hating online play in general.  Last gen, some people would purposefully use a different character as their "online main" (and not offline) to get around this- maybe try that?
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Himu on March 14, 2019, 09:55:40 AM
How is FF13 a good game, borys?
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: pancakesandsex on March 14, 2019, 09:59:28 AM
Xenosaga 2.  I literally bought a ps2 because of the JP trailer being so damn hype.  Then we got......that.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Don Rumata on March 14, 2019, 10:02:05 AM
Oblivion by far.
Came from loving Morrowind to bits, and actually believed that "Radiant AI" bullshit they said before release (would read the dev. blog every week).

Decided never to hype a game to those stupid levels again, after that (which in hindsight, was a healthy move), also to never trust Bethesda with their bullshit, which was also smart.

Project Ego --> Fable was also a good one, but for that we got to the sad reality well before release, IIRC, so wasn't expecting much by then.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: nachobro on March 14, 2019, 10:04:05 AM
PS4

- wack online despite the fact we are paying now, it’s actually worse than ps3 to the point where I do not play fighting games (my main genre) on PS4
- system is, again, TERRIBLE for actually playing fighting games yet is the number one fighting game system

Don't agree with this- the online is better than PS3 was for sure.  It's perfectly fine for fighting games, but if you're playing more and more locals, you might start hating online play in general.  Last gen, some people would purposefully use a different character as their "online main" (and not offline) to get around this- maybe try that?

its a very small use case but the ps4 sucks for local fighting game events too. a user can't delete their own controller from the system so the next people on the system need to go to the settings menu and disconnect the controller before theirs in order to make sure their match doesn't get interrupted. not the biggest deal in the world but it's annoying for sure.

also the weird thing where sometimes you have to start a game as a certain user to have it show all the dlc and sometimes you don't with no real logic to why
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: HardcoreRetro on March 14, 2019, 10:06:55 AM
I've come around for FF13 and DA2. They are pretty good games all being said and done, FF13 especially.

For the biggest disappointment for me... Ni No Kuni 2.

never played it

 :doge
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: benjipwns on March 14, 2019, 05:25:56 PM
I'm often pretty skeptical about games so I probably confuse disappointment for "figures" which is what I felt about, like, Oblivion.

I'll join Lager on Twilight Princess because I had the Wii, me and roommates and friends had played some hott Wii Sports for a while. I was waiting on Metroid Prime 3, and some other stuff, using it more to play GameCube titles really. (Like Wind Waker for the first time.) But saw TP on sale and bought it since I figured I would eventually anyway though I wasn't as eager for it being a man who's always preferred 2D Zelda's. And Wind Waker had been better than I expected.

Then it took like three hours before the Zelda part of Twilight Princess started. At least that was all good.

Assassins Creed, the first one, was similar when I got to the part where I had to ride around the whole damn world for hours on end. And the main game in general just seemed unfinished. Grand Theft Auto IV similarly bogged everything down with all kinds of non-gameplay too.

Left 4 Dead disappointed me quite a bit at launch, though Valve started to fix it up, eventually Left 4 Dead 2 basically was what I wanted originally. Speaking of Valve, I found Portal to incredibly disappointing as everyone else was praising it to the high heavens and I blew through the puzzles part of game in under half an hour.

Anything I ever rented for the 16-bit consoles or Game Boy has a good chance of making this list if I sit down and explore it.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 14, 2019, 06:03:37 PM
Real answer: that Warhammer MMO

I remember reading dev blogs while i was backpacking in china and shit  :'(
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: tiesto on March 14, 2019, 09:55:51 PM
Super Smash Bros Brawl - the hype was fucking insane for that one... after spending so much time in college playing Melee, I was so ready for a game with even more content. The Smash Dojo nightly updates during "Japan Time", the huge GAF thread with that one guy Jiggy who chronicled everything to autistic perfection, flying to my first (and only) E3 and then watching the Snake reveal straight from a screen at the Nintendo booth... too bad the game finally came out and it was sluggish and floaty, some characters *cough*MetaKnight*cough* just would not die, the much-hyped Subspace Emissary was a bit clunky since the level designs weren't really adapted to the character you played as, the laggy online, and of course tripping. Not to mention I was a few years removed from college at that point so didn't really get to experience the multiplayer as much.

Star Ocean 3 - after adoring the first and worshiping the second game, I was really hyped for their next entry... the game's announcement in 2001 was what finally got me to jump on the PS2 ship later that year. But the game itself also suffered from clunkiness in battle, a strange "MP Death" system, a drastic reimagining for-the-worse of the innovative Skills and Crafting systems of the first 2 games (which were extremely unique for console RPGs at that point and only seldomly explored in western RPGs), overly long dungeons with few save points, a near-elimination of the Private Action system where you can interact with your party members one on one and it'll effect the game's ending... and, to top it off, one of the goofiest plot twists in gaming history. You know the one.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: bork on March 14, 2019, 10:40:57 PM
Super Smash Bros Brawl - the hype was fucking insane for that one... after spending so much time in college playing Melee, I was so ready for a game with even more content. The Smash Dojo nightly updates during "Japan Time", the huge GAF thread with that one guy Jiggy who chronicled everything to autistic perfection, flying to my first (and only) E3 and then watching the Snake reveal straight from a screen at the Nintendo booth... too bad the game finally came out and it was sluggish and floaty, some characters *cough*MetaKnight*cough* just would not die, the much-hyped Subspace Emissary was a bit clunky since the level designs weren't really adapted to the character you played as, the laggy online, and of course tripping. Not to mention I was a few years removed from college at that point so didn't really get to experience the multiplayer as much.

I was also incredibly disappointed by how bad the game played online.  That's what really killed it for me.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: bork on March 14, 2019, 10:43:46 PM
Robbit Mon Dieu - I loved me some Jumping Flash! and Jumping Flash! 2.  The same developer also made The Ghost In The Shell PS1 game, which was equally awesome.  So when I found out that a third Jumping Flash! game had been released in Japan, I was pretty excited, found a copy online, and imported it.

...It sucked.  The game was nowhere near as good as Exact's previous titles, and I was wondering what the hell happened until noticing that Exact wasn't the developer.  Sugar & Rockets was, they did a shitty job, and the game was sold off almost immediately.  No wonder it didn't get localized.  :doge

Dance Summit 2001 - This is pretty similar to what happened with Robbit Mon Dieu, only the game was developed by the same team this time.  Bust-A-Move/Groove 1 and 2 are two of my favorite games from the 32-bit era.  Loved the hell out of both titles, played them like crazy, bought and blasted the soundtracks, etc.  When this was announced, I went apeshit- a new BAM for the PS2!?  Holy shit, am pumped!  Was instantly disappointed by how bad this was and sold it right back to the store.  IIRC, this never got localized, but the game or engine was used to make Brittany's Dance Beat later on.  :lol
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 15, 2019, 01:51:19 AM
Most games run poorly on base PS4?

I mean  according to Digital Foundry not really.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: The Sceneman on March 15, 2019, 07:37:44 AM
I'm not sure if I've ever been insanely hyped for something that failed to deliver, but goddamn I've played some piles of shit which were lauded by gaming journos.

I think nothing stands out to me more than BioShock Infinite.

Where do you start with this game. Sure the world design is cool but the positives end there - absolutely abysmal videogame design. Theres a pile of guns, upgrades and abilities to use - none of them matter whatsoever. The only reason I changed guns was because of ammo supply. I used the cheat to unlock "extra hard 1999 mode" or something off the bat because I didn't want to deal with the normie babby hand holding dick sucking base difficulty. If they gave you nothing but pistol ammo you could beat the game with the starting pistol. No consideration to encounter design whatsoever, I think I played it straight off of Dark Souls 1 too, so the game design felt even more insulting.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: paprikastaude on March 15, 2019, 11:37:39 AM
Zero Escape 3 Zero Time Dilemma - would've been like a 7/10 on its own maybe. But it followed up on the GOAT Virtue's Last Reward, which took story telling in games to another level and just had great mysteries in general. Really took the concepts of 999 and made something much greater out of it. Then this game felt like the writer's barely half remembered what even happened in VLR and just rehashed it poorly.

But what makes it the worst is that it got cancelled and there was this huge journey of getting it revived because of fan requests. Years of uncertainty and emotions to see this game get made and then it was a pretty shit sequel :fbm
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Svejk on March 15, 2019, 12:44:18 PM
Completely forgot about Dark Savior, Time Stalkers and Dual Hearts....

 :tocry  "um.... this is NOT Landstalker or Alundra.....Climax?  Ya'll there?  What's going on??  What are these games???"   :rkelly

Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Freyj on March 15, 2019, 01:27:21 PM
I think FF15 is more of a disappointment to me than 13 at this point.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Himu on March 15, 2019, 01:36:44 PM
I think FF15 is more of a disappointment to me than 13 at this point.

I'm so broken that I no longer care.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: bork on March 15, 2019, 02:01:40 PM
Completely forgot about Dark Savior, Time Stalkers and Dual Hearts....

 :tocry  "um.... this is NOT Landstalker or Alundra.....Climax?  Ya'll there?  What's going on??  What are these games???"   :rkelly

Landstalker was amazing- everything else Climax did kinda or totally sucked.  I think it was more like a one-hit wonder although they did make some other good non action RPG games.  Note that I'm leaving Alundra out because of Working Designs idiocy on the localized version.   :doge

Never did play Ladystalker but remember trying a ROM and kind of not caring.  Maybe I should take another look at it.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Don Rumata on March 15, 2019, 02:13:31 PM
I think FF15 is more of a disappointment to me than 13 at this point.
FF15 and MGSV are probably the only two games since Oblivion i'd consider massive disappointments, though they don't come close, just because i'm less of a moron about believing marketing drivel.
I mean with FFXV especially, the writing was on the wall, but i still hoped they'd pull it off in the end.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: BisMarckie on March 15, 2019, 02:17:37 PM
Personally, SOTN is up there. I was so hyped for a Castlevania game that looked this good, and when I played it, I just hated it. I get it, people love that game, but I just wanted a prettier Castlevania. :tocry
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: TEEEPO on March 15, 2019, 02:44:44 PM
tribes2 was rather disappointing at launch though the game was somewhat salvaged by modders that made the rulesets more forgiving. the base game's design was too dependent on every single player on the team filling and knowing how to play their respective roles. it simply asked way too much of its players assuming everyone would be interested in putting down their sniper rifles to join a coordinated clan. the game was also a technical mess.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 15, 2019, 02:50:22 PM
Personally, SOTN is up there. I was so hyped for a Castlevania game that looked this good, and when I played it, I just hated it. I get it, people love that game, but I just wanted a prettier Castlevania. :tocry

:jeanluc
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Huff on March 15, 2019, 02:51:29 PM
Halo 4 was disappointing enough for me that I didn’t play 5
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: BisMarckie on March 15, 2019, 02:52:05 PM
I'm just one of these weirdos who prefer the Classicvanias over the Metroidvanias. :goty
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: The Sceneman on March 15, 2019, 03:07:41 PM
SotN is the best game ever made tho
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Svejk on March 15, 2019, 03:35:50 PM
Never did play Ladystalker but remember trying a ROM and kind of not caring.  Maybe I should take another look at it.
Same here..wasn't impressed much.. it's no Landstalker....  then again, nothing is.  I would so have a PSP solely for that cancelled remake!!  :lawd
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 15, 2019, 04:30:02 PM
I wasn't disappointed with XV. To be honest I have no idea why though as at every corner it was lacking. Filled me with a lot of "what could have been" ideas. I guess I enjoyed it enough, but it certainly did'nt feel like a complete FF experince. But it also didn't leave me thinking that this was a terrible base to build from. I guess I found it unique enough the jrpg space.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 15, 2019, 05:06:47 PM
Completely forgot about Dark Savior, Time Stalkers and Dual Hearts....

 :tocry  "um.... this is NOT Landstalker or Alundra.....Climax?  Ya'll there?  What's going on??  What are these games???"   :rkelly

Umm actually, Dark Savior is a pretty dope game.

I think nothing stands out to me more than BioShock Infinite.

Where do you start with this game. Sure the world design is cool but the positives end there - absolutely abysmal videogame design. Theres a pile of guns, upgrades and abilities to use - none of them matter whatsoever. The only reason I changed guns was because of ammo supply. I used the cheat to unlock "extra hard 1999 mode" or something off the bat because I didn't want to deal with the normie babby hand holding dick sucking base difficulty. If they gave you nothing but pistol ammo you could beat the game with the starting pistol. No consideration to encounter design whatsoever, I think I played it straight off of Dark Souls 1 too, so the game design felt even more insulting.

I liked it when I first played it, but I basically remember nothing about the game other than wandering around Columbia for the first time and the totally bonkers ending. Everything else is just a vague recollection of meh combat encounters. Prey 2017 was a better followup to Bioshock than Infinite was.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on March 15, 2019, 05:21:09 PM
I thought about it and the most disappointing release was Keiko
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: demi on March 15, 2019, 07:00:34 PM
this is so fucking easy to answer

octopath traveler
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on March 15, 2019, 07:31:33 PM
Republic: The Revolution for me. I still liked it, but man, I thought it was going to be amazing.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Himu on March 15, 2019, 07:38:43 PM
I'm just one of these weirdos who prefer the Classicvanias over the Metroidvanias. :goty

I do too. But sotn is still gdlk
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Don Rumata on March 15, 2019, 07:47:04 PM
Republic: The Revolution for me. I still liked it, but man, I thought it was going to be amazing.
Was this the game where they made a huge deal about the engine?
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on March 15, 2019, 08:12:42 PM
Yeah I think they did. In the end, the game turned out to be almost exclusively played through a 2d board game like screen.

Was Demis Hassabis first game with his own studio, after leaving lionhead. He later went on to found deepmind, which is some cool shit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeepMind
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: team filler on March 15, 2019, 10:15:05 PM
I thought about it and the most disappointing release was Keiko
;)
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: chronovore on March 16, 2019, 08:57:44 AM
+1 complaint against GTA IV.

I was so surprised at the tonal differences between PS2-era GTA and this weird, "let's tell an immigrant's story!" which wanted so much to be grim and dark rather than satirical and outrageous.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Trent Dole on March 16, 2019, 09:29:54 AM
Personally, SOTN is up there. I was so hyped for a Castlevania game that looked this good, and when I played it, I just hated it. I get it, people love that game, but I just wanted a prettier Castlevania. :tocry
:banplz
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 16, 2019, 09:31:06 AM
Nico: *agonizes over having to kill someone*

Also Nico: *shoots a thousands cops and drives a tank through downtown blowing up pedestrians*
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Himu on March 16, 2019, 09:46:25 AM
Nico: *agonizes over having to kill someone*

Also Nico: *shoots a thousands cops and drives a tank through downtime blowing up pedestrians*

Here's an even better one:

Nico: *agonizes over having to kill someone*

Also Nico: *kills man for 500 dollars*

Remember, GTAIV mission pay out was low to be "realistic". So you had Niko agonizing over murder while killing people for 100 bucks. Like Jesus, you're an illegal but get a damn job.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: tiesto on March 16, 2019, 12:43:20 PM
I wasn't disappointed with XV because I went in with absolutely zero expectations. Even though the game was pretty mediocre, and pretty low tier FF, the fact that they shipped something that wasn't an absolute clusterfuck and even had a few cool things about it (nice graphics and fun characters) was a slight miracle in itself.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: kingv on March 16, 2019, 01:55:24 PM
GTA IV, but also:

Dragon Age Inquisition. Man, that mmo gameplay and real time waiting mini game both didn’t really suit the game at all.

I’d also say TMNT Mutants in Manhattan. It just really doesn’t play well for platinum.

Also, Star Fox on the Wii U. I really wanted to like it, but it sucks. The Wii U gimmick just didn’t work and made it confusing.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Yeti on March 16, 2019, 02:01:48 PM
If we’re talking StarFox, StarFox Adventures on the GameCube was pretty disappointing
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 16, 2019, 02:19:50 PM
I don't really know what I think about GTAIV. At the time of release I think I liked it. I was never a GTA player who found fun in the "just killing the cops for to see how long I survive" gameplay. I like GTA games because of the scale, the city, and the whole world immersion. So on paper a GTA more focused on that sounds great. I loved Liberty City in 4. Really detailed and big and I felt like I liked the more grounded nature.

It's just that the missions were really boring. The one bank job mission that everyone knows basically being the sole exception.

But also the characters were pretty annoying and unfun. I don't care about the ludio narrative stuff with Nico. But Rockstar's shift from parodying crime movies to wanting to be one left me cold because as far as the GTA games go, I've never thought the actual storytelling has improved. Yes the actual writing is ok, but at the end of the day the plotting and story telling of the GTA games has never escaped the confines of games and in the end still feels like they are aping movies, but jist not winking anymore.

Gay Toney redeemed 4 in any case.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Himu on March 16, 2019, 02:37:02 PM
I was and am a GTA player that enjoys doing missions in various ways. For example in GTAIII a lot of the biggest missions are your own sandbox. The game gives you a goal, for example, assassinating Salvatore, and it's up to the player to use their creativity to accomplish that. Missions have tiers to them. There's one element,  like Salvatore walking to his car. You could use that opportunity to snipe him. There's a roof top with stairs across from Luigi's club (Sex Club 7, I can still remember that because that game is embedded into my brain) that allows you to do just this. You could wait until he gets in his car and fire a rocket missile at it if you have that weapon. But he also has an entourage and as soon as he gets in his car, there's a chase, which is the second tier of the mission.

Personally, I find Salvatore gets in his car took quick to snipe, so what I like to do is take a few cars and bar the exit to the alley. Salvatore can't get out because AI in GTA3 can't get into cars unless otherwise scripted to do so (for example, if you're inside it or it's the car they're supposed to get into). So the AI will be stuck in an endless loop because there's an obstacle. This is when I take the opportunity to climb the roof top and snipe him. I take the shot and speed off in a conveniently parked getaway car. Others might just assassinate point blank in front of his face. With enough armor to survive his goons it might be possible.

My absolute favorite open ended GTA moment is the final mission of Vice City. After you kill Lance you're on the roof of the mansion. There's guards below but they're easy to take out. I like to jump off the mansion roof, get into my garage, drive my car into the front door and run over the final boss, winning the mission.

GTA allowed that kind of freedom. The missions (not all of them of course) were fairly open-ended if you had the creativity to see it through.

GTAIV promised to expand upon this more than ever before. Previews suggested a Hitman-esque amount of freedom to how you commit missions. Instead what we got were some of the most plain jane, linear, creatively defunt missions in GTA history. What an utterly disappointing game.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Himu on March 16, 2019, 02:48:32 PM
Speaking of GTA and disappointments: not a single GTA this generation. :beli It's been six years. Fuck GTA Online. At this point, GTA could skip the generation. GTA is now the Dragon Quest of western games. That one game that gets one release a generation and is big enough to sustain that, making each release a massive milestone. Fuck.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: thisismyusername on March 16, 2019, 03:13:49 PM
Speaking of GTA and disappointments: not a single GTA this generation. :beli It's been six years. Fuck GTA Online. At this point, GTA could skip the generation. GTA is now the Dragon Quest of western games. That one game that gets one release a generation and is big enough to sustain that, making each release a massive milestone. Fuck.

Technically, 5 is this generation. It was only released last generation as a necessity sort of thing.

Speaking of GTA: 4 PC's version BLOWS. I've been trying for like 3 hours to fucking run "Episodes of Liberty City" to finally play the Ballad of Gay Tony. No dice. Once I finally get into the fucking game (using Xliveless) the game crashes on save and now crashes on loading.

:piss Rockstar :piss2 :piss Games for Windows Live :piss2

I guess I could just buy it on X-box 360 since I do have the base GTA4 copy laying around here and could just use that, but seriously: Fuck Games for Windows Live and fuck Rockstar for not fixing their shitty PC port.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 16, 2019, 03:17:08 PM
I think GTA's problem is that the open world games that Rockstar makes are going to be huge productions. Taking a lot of time and money. They decided to make a new Red Dead and that pretty much took all of Rockstar to get done.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 16, 2019, 03:18:27 PM
GTA Online should go in here because boy was that super unfun and not at all what most people wanted out of online GTA. Who the fuck thought "Wouldn't it be great if you could have shitty deathmatches and shitty races BUT ONLINE IN GTA"?
Well....

I guess millions of people seeing as it was hugely popular.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Himu on March 16, 2019, 03:19:09 PM
:aah I forgot about GWFL.

I wouldn't say technically. GTAV was released for last gen systems originally. It didn't come out for next gen systems until a complete year after. It's very much a last gen game and wasn't made exclusively for current systems. So while technically right, because this gen did get a GTAV port, I just don't consider it a current GTA game even though there were improvements.

Last gen wasn't done as a "necessity" at all. GTAV was announced and made for last gen systems years before next gen systems were even released. GTAV was announced in 2011. PS4 and Xbox One were revealed in 2013. It was not a "necessity" at all. GTAV is a last gen game.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: HardcoreRetro on March 16, 2019, 03:20:01 PM
I think GTA4 is the better simulation and GTA5 is the better game. Kinda like Far Cry 2 compared to the games that came after.

The games aren't as fun to play, but at the same time I find the simulation aspects interesting enough to alleviate them to about the same levels of enjoyment.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Himu on March 16, 2019, 03:22:19 PM
What is GTA4 a simulation of?
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: thisismyusername on March 16, 2019, 03:23:17 PM
:aah I forgot about GWFL.

I wouldn't say technically. GTAV was released for last gen systems originally. It didn't come out for next gen systems until a complete year after. It's very much a last gen game and wasn't made exclusively for current systems. So while technically right, because this gen did get a GTAV port, I just don't consider it a current GTA game even though there were improvements.

I'd say 5 is this generation if only because of the clear performance and graphical improvements that 5 introduced on PC and PS4.

First Person Mode. :aah
Not shitty sub-720p resolution. :aah

I mean I'd consider MGS6/Phantom Pain next-gen as well, and Konami MANDATED they release that on PS360. So I consider it the same with GTA5: They were trying to push for next-gen and someone at Rockstar (Howser?) pushed them to release it on the last-gen consoles to get sales from folks that may not buy a "next-gen" console for 2-4 years.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Himu on March 16, 2019, 03:24:22 PM
Also GTAV was announced 8 years ago??

(https://i.imgur.com/M5hia8R.gif)
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Himu on March 16, 2019, 03:27:08 PM
They were trying to push for next-gen and someone at Rockstar (Howser?) pushed them to release it on the last-gen consoles to get sales from folks that may not buy a "next-gen" console for 2-4 years.

Is this speculation or confirmed? I'd like to read about it if so.

I've never played the upgraded GTAV. I've only played it on PS3. I should replay it one of these days. I really, really, really miss GTA something awful.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: HardcoreRetro on March 16, 2019, 03:29:41 PM
What? I'm talking about the gameplay. They went for more realistic physics/damage models and different cool concepts in early 360/ps3 era games.

Watch the two crowbcat videos on both GTA4 and Far Cry 2.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: thisismyusername on March 16, 2019, 03:30:30 PM
Speculation. But Konami's is confirmed by a Kojima Production LA developer (though I forget if there's an article floating around that I can link to).

A lot of those cross-gen titles of that time were (IMO) in a lot of the similar mind-frame: Get people that aren't upgrading right now to buy the game, they may get a better version later on.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Himu on March 16, 2019, 03:30:49 PM
What? I'm talking about the gameplay. They went for more realistic physics/damage models and different cool concepts in early 360/ps3 era games.

Watch the two crowbcat videos on both GTA4 and Far Cry 2.

I know but while GTA4 was more "realistic" I never considered it a simulation is all. But I can see it.

I personally hated the physics.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Himu on March 16, 2019, 03:41:35 PM
Gaming disappointment: all of my childhood faves.

Sonic - sucks
Street Fighter - V is a train wreck, and VI might be even worse
Final Fantasy - lost its shit, have to play an mmo to play a legit FF now apparently. The creators think it's best that I, someone who was raised on VII, should eat shit and have decided to make the VII remake an action rpg.
Suikoden - dead
SMT - sold out to people that want a waifu
GTA - like a neglectful parent. They're hard at work but you never see them around anymore.

Shenmue III sounds good, Breath of the Wild looks legit, and Mario is still kicking ass so there's that.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: HardcoreRetro on March 16, 2019, 03:47:52 PM
Sonic Mania was good?
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Himu on March 16, 2019, 03:48:55 PM
I don't like Sonic at all anymore. It's unfortunate but I don't find it fun anymore despite it being a huge part of my childhood gaming diet. It's weird. I just don't enjoy Sonic anymore, which is a travesty in itself.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: HardcoreRetro on March 16, 2019, 03:52:07 PM
FF15 would've been good if they cut all the crap story and I could just hang with the guys. Blast Terra's Theme in the car and go fishing.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: chronovore on March 16, 2019, 08:40:26 PM
Speaking of GTA and disappointments: not a single GTA this generation. :beli It's been six years. Fuck GTA Online. At this point, GTA could skip the generation. GTA is now the Dragon Quest of western games. That one game that gets one release a generation and is big enough to sustain that, making each release a massive milestone. Fuck.

I saw the counter-arguments, but Cindi's right: GTA V and Online are both last-gen efforts with substantial improvements in the updates.

It is pretty much crazy that GTA Online has made enough money that R* is not interested in sullying their revenue stream with a new effort. RDR2 is the closest that fills their niche, but is far enough away from GTA's theme that it was a safer focus than making GTA VI? Or maybe the income curve for GTA Online is finally slowing down enough that it's time to crank up a different money printing device?
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 16, 2019, 09:21:15 PM
Recently, RDR2. It's overlong, has unnecessarily complicated controls, and worst of all it's ultimately boring in service to a misguided sense of realism. Online is an empty microtransaction dumpster which doesn't carry over one single mode or feature that made the first one so fun. I suppose if you like to play dress up you might like that part of it, but you can just buy a cut out paper doll book at the dollar store and get the same effect. The Hausers need to light a candle and search for a path out of their own asses.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: thisismyusername on March 17, 2019, 12:26:37 AM
Nah, fuck GTA6. I want a goddamn expansion pack to GTA5. Like, the north area (where you start with Trevor) is barely used outside of like 2 missions and a bank robbery. They could give us Los Santos and San Ferro a la the 3: San Andreas release finally, but nooooooooo gotta put more vehicles into GTA:Online and fleece folks still playing that without hackers BTFO of the stupid grind for shark cards so they can get that stupid shit.
Title: Re: Most disappointing release?
Post by: Trent Dole on March 17, 2019, 01:02:57 AM
Nico: *agonizes over having to kill someone*

Also Nico: *shoots a thousands cops and drives a tank through downtime blowing up pedestrians*

Here's an even better one:

Nico: *agonizes over having to kill someone*

Also Nico: *kills man for 500 dollars*

Remember, GTAIV mission pay out was low to be "realistic". So you had Niko agonizing over murder while killing people for 100 bucks. Like Jesus, you're an illegal but get a damn job.
:trumps