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Title: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Himu on May 21, 2019, 11:26:42 AM
https://www.gamesradar.com/george-r-r-martin-fromsoftware-game-e3-norse-great-rune/
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Great Rune
Post by: Svejk on May 21, 2019, 11:43:16 AM
Prolly headed by DSII B-team.  :doge  Very curious though.  Of course, this probably going the Norse way, along with the next AssCrud and the inevitable GOW2, I'll be totally Norse'd out.  :-\
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Great Rune
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 21, 2019, 02:10:21 PM
Noise
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Great Rune
Post by: Rahxephon91 on May 21, 2019, 02:28:41 PM
Norse mythology is getting pretty boring.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Great Rune
Post by: Don Rumata on May 21, 2019, 02:29:45 PM
More vague Norse mythology. Wow, what a gift! :goty2
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Great Rune
Post by: paprikastaude on May 21, 2019, 04:35:10 PM
Chasing dat Skyrim & God of War money. Also the new AssCreed is also Norse :zzz

But if it is Souls-like then Day 0 and Platinum for me. Can't help it, won't fight it.

wow 3 mediocre casual games in the last 10 years used that setting, it's totally played out - hopefully they go back to dragon and hobbits trash that 90% of all western RPGs shit out.   :whatsthedeal :foodcourt

Literally anything would be better than going for GoT fantasy, except maybe Japanese high schools. But it seems to be a 4chan rumour anway, i.e. whatever.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Great Rune
Post by: El Babua on May 21, 2019, 05:29:07 PM
It's like in 2015 where there were like 5 Victorian era games and people complained about it being a thing.

I'm good with the Norse stuff. A FROM/GRRM interpretation of the mythology can give us some fucked up shit.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Great Rune
Post by: Himu on May 21, 2019, 05:30:01 PM

Literally anything would be better than going for GoT fantasy

You mean something that has the possibility of being low fantasy? :beli
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Great Rune
Post by: Nintex on May 21, 2019, 05:30:58 PM
GRRM?

Your main character dies after a long grind and you will have to play various side characters that all suck and also die.
The NPC that you meet at the start becomes king in the end.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Great Rune
Post by: The Sceneman on May 21, 2019, 08:44:13 PM
Chasing dat Skyrim & God of War money. Also the new AssCreed is also Norse :zzz

But if it is Souls-like then Day 0 and Platinum for me. Can't help it, won't fight it.

wow 3 mediocre casual games in the last 10 years used that setting, it's totally played out - hopefully they go back to dragon and hobbits trash that 90% of all western RPGs shit out.   :whatsthedeal :foodcourt


^ this. Spieler1 just owned all of you fyi
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Great Rune
Post by: bluemax on May 22, 2019, 01:53:37 AM
So it'll be even more unfinished than the usual FROM game?
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Great Rune
Post by: team filler on May 22, 2019, 02:44:19 AM
for switch  ???
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Great Rune
Post by: pilonv1 on May 22, 2019, 04:01:11 AM
This isn't Chromehounds 2 idc
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Great Rune
Post by: paprikastaude on May 22, 2019, 05:49:50 AM
Like can you name 3 RPGs in the last decade with Hobbits?

Bonus points for FROM SOFTWARE games.

wasn't meant literally, but replace it with any other trope from generic dd fantasy (i.e. the most trite setting ever) if you must. :idont
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Great Rune
Post by: Himu on May 22, 2019, 07:01:06 AM
Like can you name 3 RPGs in the last decade with Hobbits?

Bonus points for FROM SOFTWARE games.

wasn't meant literally, but replace it with any other trope from generic dd fantasy (i.e. the most trite setting ever) if you must. :idont

you've never read asoiaf or watched got if you think got world is generic d&d fantasy. Hell, you haven't even played dark souls if you say this.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Great Rune
Post by: paprikastaude on May 22, 2019, 08:47:50 AM
Based on mid-european middle ages = the closest you can get to being creatively bankrupt, regardless of whatever tweaks there are. Unless you are Kingdom Come, i.e. do the impossible and actually base it on history, not fantasy.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Great Rune
Post by: Himu on May 22, 2019, 08:49:23 AM
But the appeal of GRRMís work is that itís inspired by history.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Great Rune
Post by: El Babua on June 07, 2019, 07:26:43 PM
Great Rune? More like

https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/1137134235221942272?
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 09, 2019, 02:04:53 AM
This is rumoured to be open world
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Himu on June 09, 2019, 02:41:14 AM
This is rumoured to be open world

Technically isnít Dark Souls open world
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: demi on June 09, 2019, 03:05:48 AM
Nope
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 09, 2019, 03:13:41 AM
I wouldnít be surprised if itís 3 Dark Souls worlds linked by a central open hub and then within each kingdom itís the usual linear/non-linear stage design you see in all the Souls games.

A true open world just doesnít make any sense for From Soft.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 09, 2019, 07:11:49 AM
Bite sized linear shrines like in zelda botw
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: toku on June 09, 2019, 11:08:56 AM
The least exciting thing about this is the viking setting. That's kinda hot right now and over-saturated.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Don Rumata on June 09, 2019, 11:34:38 AM
I wouldnít be surprised if itís 3 Dark Souls worlds linked by a central open hub and then within each kingdom itís the usual linear/non-linear stage design you see in all the Souls games.

A true open world just doesnít make any sense for From Soft.

From wasn't born with Demon's Souls, so they could stand to gain something, from trying to move away from the Souls formula again, tbh.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 09, 2019, 12:45:03 PM
Sure, but From also made a lot of bad games before Souls. Their strength is in their level design and lately their combat.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 09, 2019, 02:34:53 PM
Sure, but From also made a lot of bad games before Souls. Their strength is in their level design and lately their combat.

Excuse me, King's Field is a great game, thank you very much.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: shosta on June 09, 2019, 03:00:56 PM
Making this shit instead of a new armored core game
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 09, 2019, 03:08:14 PM
Sure, but From also made a lot of bad games before Souls. Their strength is in their level design and lately their combat.

Excuse me, King's Field is a great game, thank you very much.

Well I was thinking more like Eternal Ring and stuff haha, I never played KF but respect it. Also I think some of the Armored Core games are kinda of baaaaaaaad (some are great!).

Making this shit instead of a new armored core game

Should still be coming. They said they had 3 projects in development. 1 new souls-kind-but not (Sekiro), 1 souls-ish arpg (Elden) and 1 game that basically sounded like a new Armored Core.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on June 09, 2019, 03:09:11 PM
They've been working on a new armored core for awhile now, haven't they?
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on June 09, 2019, 05:23:14 PM
CG trailers are for losers.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Himu on June 09, 2019, 05:28:24 PM
Looks dope
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on June 09, 2019, 05:40:29 PM
Definitely has my curiosity.  I like the aesthetic of it so far. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Himu on June 09, 2019, 05:43:43 PM
Yeah the Viking chick looked dope
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on June 09, 2019, 06:28:39 PM
Can't find a standalone trailer on YouTubez yet.  Wth
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Don Rumata on June 09, 2019, 06:38:14 PM
Couldve fooled me if they called it Dark Souls 4. :larry
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: paprikastaude on June 10, 2019, 03:05:34 PM
Hopefully the final game keeps going more into the valkyrie side of things instead of normal fekkit fantasy.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: El Babua on June 12, 2019, 08:12:23 AM
Liking the art style of the trailer. Open world but no towns according to FROM. Apparently GRRM came up with the backstory and lore.

If you told some me 10 years ago that FROMSOFT and GRRM would collaborate on a game together, I'd actually believe it. But under the circumstances of GRRM being a popular author only within his niche and a C-list developer coming together to make something mediocre.

If you told me GRRM would become a megaceleb and FROM would turn into the premier single player game developer, I'd be more shocked tbh. Almost as shocked as Winds not being out by 2020  :doge
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: paprikastaude on June 12, 2019, 10:35:03 AM
https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/06/11/dark-souls-and-bloodborne-creator-says-elden-ring-is-
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 12, 2019, 11:42:19 AM
Open world yisss
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on June 12, 2019, 11:58:56 AM
Yeah I'm down
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Himu on June 12, 2019, 01:27:07 PM
https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/06/11/dark-souls-and-bloodborne-creator-says-elden-ring-is-

broken link

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/06/11/dark-souls-and-bloodborne-creator-says-elden-ring-is-a-vast-open-world-souls-like-game-a-e3-2019
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on June 18, 2019, 05:53:39 PM
https://www.dualshockers.com/elden-ring-storytelling-dark-souls/
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Miyazaki said that the story and world of Elden Ring will be fleshed out in a similar manner to that of the Dark Souls games. This means that much of the backstory of the world of Elden Ring will probably be detailed through item descriptions, character interactions, and other means of environmental storytelling.
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FromSoftware is opting to return to its old way of fleshing out the world itís creating, even with Martin working on the project. Part of this reason is likely because Elden Ring will let you play as a customizable character that doesnít have a defined personality within the world. That said, Miyazaki has said that NPCs in Elden Ring will be a bit more fleshed out compared to some of his past titles.
:aah :ohyeah
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2019, 06:07:58 PM
:gladbron
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 18, 2019, 08:41:08 PM
Uh, I don't understand how that is "going back to Souls roots"

Sekiro's story is mostly through item descriptions and stuff. All their games are. Dunno why anyone would expect this to be any different. Elden Ring just sounds like Reboot Dark Souls tbh.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2019, 09:01:23 PM
Nah. Sekiro has far more dialogue and in game cutscenes than any From game Iíve played in the past ten years
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 18, 2019, 09:03:00 PM
Maybe there's more dialogue (is there? There wasn't much...), but I had no fucking idea what was going in Sekiro until I read/watched the story guides that were assembled from item descriptions, same as Bloodborne/Souls.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Don Rumata on June 18, 2019, 11:40:19 PM
Maybe there's more dialogue (is there? There wasn't much...), but I had no fucking idea what was going in Sekiro until I read/watched the story guides that were assembled from item descriptions, same as Bloodborne/Souls.
That's because storytelling in Sekiro is dreadfully paced.

Instead of being spread throughout, it's at a few intervals (usually after a major boss fight) and all together; on top of that, 60% of it is expository jargon about the tears of the dragon or the flower's scent.
It's just utterly boring, tbh, so it hardly keeps your attention.

Honestly, after a while i just started skipping that shit hard.

Dark Souls was similar with the info dump, but it was more spread out, so you didn't have to sit through 40 lines of dialogue all at once, and then nothing for another 5 hours.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 19, 2019, 12:06:06 AM
To be honest I never have any idea what is happening in a From Software game or Yoko Taro game until I beat the game and read a plot summary.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: shosta on June 19, 2019, 12:24:28 AM
:dead it's true
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: El Babua on June 19, 2019, 01:18:16 AM
The main plot of Sekiro was OK and very simple. The themes about the futility of mortals trying to achieve immortality was pretty well executed imo.

What I liked about it is that the main NPCs were actual characters this time instead of some cryptic abstractions that cackled after every sentence. Obviously I'm generalizing a lot, but thats like most of the characters I remember interacting with post Dark Souls 1. In Bloodborne they fit pretty well thematically.

I found the trio of Emma, Isshin and the Sculptor pretty cool. Kuro was OK, and his interactions with Wolf were cute. In fact, I think the Sculptor's story is definitely one of the more poignant ones FROM has come up with.

I'm guessing we'll get some fucked up NPCs for this one, hopefully with some nice arcs.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on June 19, 2019, 07:06:21 AM
I can't imagine this coming this gen, but I could be totally wrong.  Being their first attempt at a game of such girth, I'm willing to bet it'll still be well over a year from now.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 19, 2019, 07:12:29 AM
Would be a great early big next game.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2019, 07:16:15 AM
Guys fuck off. I do not want to buy a new console for this.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on June 19, 2019, 07:25:27 AM
 Neither do I tbh.  :lol  I think I'm falling in the same trap as I did with MGSV...  My hype and anticipation for it, it felt I would be doing the game, and myself a disservice of missing the game's full potential and glory  (Excluding PC of course.. different ballpark, imo)  Playing MGSV at 60fps vs PS3 30fps...  it just had to be done.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
and had to wait for a good trade in deal for my ps3  :doge
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Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 19, 2019, 07:44:40 AM
Guys fuck off. I do not want to buy a new console for this.

Well its almost that time

Im ditching PS4 this summer and will continue on with Switch and my mini PC
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on June 19, 2019, 08:05:52 AM
As soon as PS5 is 100% confirmed to be BC with PS4 out of the box, my PS4 is done...  buh bye
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 19, 2019, 08:22:36 AM
I wonder if I can still get a 100 bucks for my PS4
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Raist on June 19, 2019, 05:02:36 PM
This will most likely be cross-gen.

Meaning it will run like shit on PS4, and slightly less like shit on PS5.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on December 06, 2019, 08:15:41 AM
So a lot of REEEEEEEEEEEEEjects or going on and on about this having more of reveal at VGA's next week.  I certainly hope so...  I want to see some gameplay pronto... Some open world FROM style. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: bluemax on December 06, 2019, 11:10:04 PM
This will most likely be cross-gen.

Meaning it will run like shit on PS4, and slightly less like shit on PS5.

The camera will still be bad.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Himu on December 07, 2019, 01:43:20 PM
honestly only Sekiro so far imo has encounters with stupidly bad cameras.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on December 07, 2019, 03:16:19 PM
I dunno... That first boss in BB on that bridge was a nightmare battling the camera.. especially with multiple lock-on points.   
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Himu on December 07, 2019, 03:22:13 PM
one big tip i can give you while playing these games is to not lock on to large bosses. Just use the camera to navigate the battlefield.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: bluemax on December 07, 2019, 10:10:30 PM
honestly only Sekiro so far imo has encounters with stupidly bad cameras.

The lock on camera in the original Dark Souls was one of the most laughably bad things I've ever experienced. Enemy two fit in front of me, hit lock on, locks on to god knows what somewhere on the other side of the planet. G fucking G. And then the second or third boss in that tiny room? GTFO.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Himu on December 08, 2019, 12:20:22 AM
So far only capra has been bad about it
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Raist on December 08, 2019, 02:28:55 PM
Lock-on in Souls games? You think this is some Zelba babby game or something? :bolo
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Don Rumata on December 08, 2019, 02:57:37 PM
Either you lock on, or you claw(because the dodge is with a face button), both are shit with some bosses.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on December 08, 2019, 03:55:40 PM
Lock-on in Souls games? You think this is some Zelba babby game or something? :bolo
Certainly ain't no Dragon's Dogma where lock-on doesn't exist.  :betty
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on March 01, 2021, 09:20:03 AM
https://twitter.com/Shpeshal_Ed/status/1366391585403904002




edit: extended trailer

https://twitter.com/duckgroove/status/1366378433194950658
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Tasty on March 01, 2021, 09:36:29 AM
Twitter has to have the shittiest video player in the history of the internet.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on March 01, 2021, 09:53:08 AM
it does bring me back to being 12, and trying to jerk it off to those bangbus quicktime previews
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: bork on March 01, 2021, 10:54:50 AM
:piss Realplayer :piss2

 :show

Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Coax on March 01, 2021, 11:06:25 AM
Twitter has to have the shittiest video player in the history of the internet.

I use the alternative front end Nitter (automatically redirected to one its instances via the addon Privacy Redirect). Uses the browser's native video controls and loads sanely.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on March 01, 2021, 11:08:16 AM
:piss Realplayer :piss2

 :show

fuck it might actually have been realplayer i meant. i forgot that name completely.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: BIONIC on March 01, 2021, 12:10:06 PM
https://youtu.be/axP6el8Xzu0

Actual trailer

:piss  Gilhaney  :piss2
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Tasty on March 01, 2021, 12:21:06 PM
Oh good, they're proudly announcing it as a franchise before the first game is out.

I can't think of any situation where that's backfired before.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on March 01, 2021, 12:56:36 PM
It's <insert> souls with a horse.

That it?  :doge
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Don Rumata on March 01, 2021, 01:04:36 PM
Looks disappointingly close to Souls, indeed, some of the animations (like that walk) look straight up ported over from DS3.
Still, maybe the open world formula will bring significant changes.

Sekiro looked like a bigger departure so far.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: BIONIC on March 01, 2021, 01:48:14 PM
https://twitter.com/isaker10/status/1366456202670997508

:aah
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Tasty on March 01, 2021, 01:50:19 PM
It's <insert> souls with a horse.

That it?  :doge

Horse combat straight out of Twilight Princess.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on March 01, 2021, 01:51:46 PM
Let's not show our game until footage shot with a screen from a smartphone leaks on the internet and is the first impression :trumps
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on March 01, 2021, 02:19:12 PM
looks nice art, need more

still not sure how open field & horse riding will work within the strengths of From's tight level design. Will give them the benefit of doubt for now.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on March 01, 2021, 02:19:37 PM
Oh good, they're proudly announcing it as a franchise before the first game is out.

I can't think of any situation where that's backfired before.
It's a ten year plan, just like Anthem!

 :teehee
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on March 01, 2021, 02:23:51 PM
After finishing up Demon's Souls, I'm down for some more Souls combat. I trust Miyazaki to do some interesting stuff with an open world.

Just sucks it looks so much like DS3 but we kind of knew before hand it wouldn't come close to the DeS remake graphically.  :doge
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on March 01, 2021, 03:31:32 PM
yeah, i mean, it's potato quality video but you can infer the textures and lighting are very last gen in that trailer at least. will most likely be a day 1 purchase anyway, unless initial impressions are atrocious. i can imagine some fun changes to combat and party systems to account for larger environments, more power, bigger aoe spells. i wanna see the earth roil and giants fall at my feet
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on March 01, 2021, 03:41:17 PM
idk, I think the new Demon Souls looks hot, but I still don't have issue with DS3/Bloodborne/Sekiro visuals. Those games still look good thanks to great art and perfectly fine gfx work. This looks good to me.

I feel like the boss fights should be fine even if in more open environments. Plenty of Souls/Sekiro bosses are in wider arenas and it doesn't change much. Plus the trailer shows some interior stuff so bosses can be in castles that have linear tighter corridor design.

Hell I wouldn't even be surprised if the big open fields are just hubs to link to linear standard Souls levels (Sewers, Castles, etc...) kinda like SoTC. Maybe with some field bosses and loot spread around.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on March 01, 2021, 03:44:14 PM
sekiro looks p good. imo bloodborne and ds3 look p gross now. they are not aging well
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on March 01, 2021, 03:55:27 PM
I think Bloodborne's art saves it, as do the dense, detailed environments.  If we could get it running at 60 and turn the chromatic aberration off, it would still look solid imo.
idk, I think the new Demon Souls looks hot, but I still don't have issue with DS3/Bloodborne/Sekiro visuals. Those games still look good thanks to great art and perfectly fine gfx work. This looks good to me.
Agreed.
Hell I wouldn't even be surprised if the big open fields are just hubs to link to linear standard Souls levels (Sewers, Castles, etc...) kinda like SoTC. Maybe with some field bosses and loot spread around.
That would be the dream, for me at least.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: HardcoreRetro on March 01, 2021, 04:38:04 PM
I feel like Naff is one of the only people to feel that way about the graphics in Bloodborne and DS3. I put: "Bloodborne didn't age well" into google and most what comes up is people going back to the game and talking about how well it holds up.

At some point all the games out now will look outdated. Especially ones that target realism. I don't see how that's a problem though.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 01, 2021, 04:50:51 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/aqMwJON.jpg)

"hasn't aged well" ~naff
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on March 01, 2021, 05:00:31 PM
Bloodbourne really hasnt aged well, and it's mostly not even because the core graphics there. The chromatic abberation is terrible and even worse the frame pacing is VERY VERY TERRIBLE, makes the game looks so bad in motion, actually kept giving me a headache.



(https://i.imgur.com/v9pxdcC.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/4uZahbv.jpg)

So messy. Just give us the option to at least turn that off, From
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: mormapope on March 01, 2021, 05:17:03 PM
God help this game if it's still cross gen. Base Xbone and PS4 will be sub 1080P and a framerate that hovers below 30.

It would make sense if cross gen plans also added to development time. Working on 6 different SKUs, especially for a studio like From, would result in a series of clusterfucks.

While I'm typically not against cross gen games, the disparity between current gen and last gen will be huge. This was also announced in 2019 (I think). If it releases 2022, there will be enough current gen consoles out there to get decent sales.

Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: HardcoreRetro on March 01, 2021, 05:25:44 PM
Bloodborne really hasnt aged well, and it's mostly not even because the core graphics there. The chromatic abberation is terrible and even worse the frame pacing is VERY VERY TERRIBLE, makes the game looks so bad in motion, actually kept giving me a headache.

Those things were already bad back when it first released. It has nothing to do with the game's age.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Kestastrophe on March 01, 2021, 05:32:36 PM
https://twitter.com/LoruleLegend/status/1366431871207411715?s=19
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on March 01, 2021, 05:41:19 PM
idk, i downloaded bb on ps5 and yeah, it stutters real bad and everything is shiny and weird. that said i like the aesthetic. when i first played DS3 i was p blown away by the aesthetic and how smooth it was (first time playing souls at 60fps on pc) and going back to replay it was just very underwhelming.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Tasty on March 01, 2021, 05:45:19 PM
God help this game if it's still cross gen. Base Xbone and PS4 will be sub 1080P and a framerate that hovers below 30.

It would make sense if cross gen plans also added to development time. Working on 6 different SKUs, especially for a studio like From, would result in a series of clusterfucks.

While I'm typically not against cross gen games, the disparity between current gen and last gen will be huge. This was also announced in 2019 (I think). If it releases 2022, there will be enough current gen consoles out there to get decent sales.



I was just thinking, there's no way this still comes out on Xbone and PS4 right? :dunno
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on March 01, 2021, 05:48:58 PM
there are similar issues with frame pacing like bloodbornes when you switch to graphix mode in demon's souls, and most people would say the graphics mode in demon's is unplayable. for a game that relies on iframes it's especially annoying. on top of that we know there have been fan patches on modded consoles that fix the issue. fromsoft fucking suck at patching their technical issues.

edit: "most people" is prob an exaggeration, but the deso remake would be a hell of a lot worse technically (imo) if they didn't include perf mode.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on March 01, 2021, 05:52:14 PM
God help this game if it's still cross gen. Base Xbone and PS4 will be sub 1080P and a framerate that hovers below 30.

It would make sense if cross gen plans also added to development time. Working on 6 different SKUs, especially for a studio like From, would result in a series of clusterfucks.

While I'm typically not against cross gen games, the disparity between current gen and last gen will be huge. This was also announced in 2019 (I think). If it releases 2022, there will be enough current gen consoles out there to get decent sales.
No worries, not many other next gen games will launch anyway :trumps
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: El Babua on March 01, 2021, 05:54:12 PM
The mere thought of the FROM engine trying to run an open world with actual NPC routines on base consoles :dead
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on March 01, 2021, 06:10:50 PM
Bloodborne really hasnt aged well, and it's mostly not even because the core graphics there. The chromatic abberation is terrible and even worse the frame pacing is VERY VERY TERRIBLE, makes the game looks so bad in motion, actually kept giving me a headache.

Those things were already bad back when it first released. It has nothing to do with the game's age.

oh yeah sure. but it is ugly
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: BIONIC on March 01, 2021, 06:16:14 PM
Bloodborne really hasnt aged well, and it's mostly not even because the core graphics there. The chromatic abberation is terrible and even worse the frame pacing is VERY VERY TERRIBLE, makes the game looks so bad in motion, actually kept giving me a headache.

Those things were already bad back when it first released. It has nothing to do with the game's age.

oh yeah sure. but it is ugly

Ur mom is uglyy haha goteem
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Don Rumata on March 01, 2021, 06:19:45 PM
The mere thought of the FROM engine trying to run an open world with actual NPC routines on base consoles :dead
:hitler
Says who?
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: BIONIC on March 01, 2021, 06:22:27 PM
The mere thought of the FROM engine trying to run an open world with actual NPC routines on base consoles :dead
:hitler
Says who?

Theyíll all be completely unmoving - including their mouths while talking.

The tech masters at From  :rejoice
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on March 01, 2021, 06:40:35 PM
They're still a gen ahead of gamefreak though  :lol

GameFreak just about entering the GameCube era
From Software is already at cross gen PS3/PS4
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Himu on March 01, 2021, 06:44:43 PM
looks sick can't wait
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: remy on March 01, 2021, 07:17:10 PM
It does look sick. I wish sony would release a non fucked version on Bloodborne on PC though. Stop dumping all the sad dad cinematic universe games on steam :doge and give bloodborne
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on March 01, 2021, 08:23:23 PM
The mere thought of the FROM engine trying to run an open world with actual NPC routines on base consoles :dead
:hitler
Says who?

Yeah, they said no towns.

Youíre gonna have NPC shop keepers standing around like always.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on March 01, 2021, 08:52:12 PM
https://youtu.be/UZ8kk0I3tkU

Apparently this is all from a 2019 trailer that they decided not to show for whatever reason. So who knows how representative it is of the game at this point 2 years later.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on March 01, 2021, 10:51:21 PM
That would make sense, I suppose.

I believe Elden Ring started after The Ringed City DLC finished up, which was March 2017. So that trailer would have been 2 years and some change into development, and we're now coming up on an additional 2 years this summer. It could be quite a bit different now.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Raist on March 02, 2021, 02:18:09 AM
Grrum is involved, so they probably trashed it and restarted from scratch.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: paprikastaude on March 02, 2021, 06:53:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ8kk0I3tkU&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on March 02, 2021, 07:19:47 AM
https://youtu.be/axP6el8Xzu0

Actual trailer

I hope that's not the actual OST.... Straight up boring, unimaginative rip off of GOW 2018 main theme.   ::) :yuck
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Himu on March 02, 2021, 07:38:41 AM
https://youtu.be/UZ8kk0I3tkU

Apparently this is all from a 2019 trailer that they decided not to show for whatever reason. So who knows how representative it is of the game at this point 2 years later.

Art design is the best From has done since Dark Souls 1. Can't wait.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Don Rumata on March 03, 2021, 05:46:48 AM
https://youtu.be/UZ8kk0I3tkU

Apparently this is all from a 2019 trailer that they decided not to show for whatever reason. So who knows how representative it is of the game at this point 2 years later.

Art design is the best From has done since Dark Souls 1. Can't wait.
It just looks like another Souls to me.  :thinking
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on March 03, 2021, 06:55:18 AM
Open world Souls with what looks like Sekiro stealth mechanics?  :rejoice
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Himu on March 04, 2021, 09:05:16 AM
https://youtu.be/UZ8kk0I3tkU

Apparently this is all from a 2019 trailer that they decided not to show for whatever reason. So who knows how representative it is of the game at this point 2 years later.

Art design is the best From has done since Dark Souls 1. Can't wait.
It just looks like another Souls to me.  :thinking

Hat boss at the end seemed cool to me
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on March 07, 2021, 05:23:12 PM
Art design is the best From has done since Dark Souls 1. Can't wait.
It just looks like another Souls to me.  :thinking

i am definitely interested in open world souls, but it looks nothing special from this trailer (fully understanding this is a leak/extremely early build. i also have little faith from will do anything dramatically improved than what they've become comfortable making, which is pretty good). can imagine open spaces being quite fun when negotiating them has some pattern/puzzle solving to be done with enemies / obstacles you can't just ignore and hoon past on your horse. hopefully the larger obstacles like dragons will be a little more dynamic unlike previous entries, i think the fly by wire roboticism worked well in the ultra constrained corridors of the old games but would feel extremely dated in a modern open world game.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Raist on May 04, 2021, 02:13:34 PM
Grrum is involved, so they probably trashed it and restarted from scratch.


:lol

https://www.gamesradar.com/elden-ring-unlikely-to-release-before-march-2022/
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Himu on May 04, 2021, 07:21:09 PM
ughhhh
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Raist on May 05, 2021, 05:04:24 AM
To be fair, Sekiro came out just over 2 years ago, so a 3 years gap isn't that crazy.

Their mistake was not only to drop a trailer for Elden ring a mere 2 months after Sekiro came out, but also show or say fuck all since then.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on May 05, 2021, 07:29:21 AM
Sony probably money hatted most of their crew towards Bloodborne 2.  :lucille

And lol @ GRRM ever finishing anything.

Still looking forward to this though.  They may drop a proper trailer this E3 with a "Coming 2022" splash at the end.  It better come before Dragon's Dogma 2 (1st Q 2023 according to leak), because it will be practically irrelevant to me then.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on May 05, 2021, 04:24:43 PM
To be fair, Sekiro came out just over 2 years ago, so a 3 years gap isn't that crazy.

Their mistake was not only to drop a trailer for Elden ring a mere 2 months after Sekiro came out, but also show or say fuck all since then.
They're always working on multiple things at once. The DS3 DLC team has been working on Elden Ring since 2017.  Sekiro development started after The Old Hunters finished up in 2015.

The GRRM x From news leaked anyway, they might as well have officially announced it. *shurg*

Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Raist on June 10, 2021, 03:51:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6pCyV7PnqI&list=PL0BYWgqOO9ChaCoNFMe46GHVtIQz71hQx

Meh
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 10, 2021, 03:59:55 PM
Cool designs, leaning a bit heavily on the dark souls stuff. But whatever, gameplay looks like it could be a bit of Sekiro about it as well. Graphically though... Ooof, this game is uggo.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 10, 2021, 04:02:59 PM
It looks like Dark Souls IV with a horse.

Which is fine, as that's all I wanted. People complain that there's too many souls games, but there's not enough good competent ones, and no one else nails the creepy & interesting world lore with great macabre art design and memorable bosses like From Soft's games. Keep doing Souls forever From Soft. Hire a 2nd team if you want to do other genre, you can afford it with all these Souls bucks.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 10, 2021, 04:04:16 PM
Also graphically it's a cross-gen at least semi-open world large fields game.

There was no way this would look as good as Demons PS5 which is a linear game only on PS5. It's fine.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: MMaRsu on June 10, 2021, 04:10:35 PM
Man this looks

a. Like a game made for the PS4
b. the art design is boring
c. gameplay doesnt seem that interesting

meh
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 10, 2021, 04:12:04 PM
Man this looks

a. Like a game made for the PS4
b. the art design is boring
c. gameplay doesnt seem that interesting

meh

 :bolo

Them's fighting words
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 10, 2021, 04:13:06 PM
Graphically though... Ooof, this game is uggo.

That's how it is when it's 2021 and you still gotta make new games run on hardware that came out 8 years ago.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 10, 2021, 04:15:15 PM
Graphically though... Ooof, this game is uggo.

That's how it is when it's 2021 and you still gotta make new games run on hardware that came out 8 years ago.

Well that and being an incompetent developer
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 10, 2021, 04:16:11 PM
Graphically though... Ooof, this game is uggo.

That's how it is when it's 2021 and you still gotta make new games run on hardware that came out 8 years ago.

Well that and being an incompetent developer

 :bolo
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 10, 2021, 04:17:14 PM
Look at PS2 era From Software games.

Look at Sekiro & Dark Souls III


From Software has come a long way as developers. Their games are pretty damn polished and well made.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 10, 2021, 04:20:28 PM
They have come a long way, and that only speaks volumes to how badly optimized their first souls games were.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 10, 2021, 04:21:57 PM
Also the graphics look fine.

Shit, it's like some of you are expecting western visuals from Japanese developers. Japan's visual style and what they prioritize in graphical development vs saving budget is stylistically pretty different. Look at RE8, at FF16, look at Judgment, etc... random high-res textures here and there, flat lighting, but bigger space, more variety in objects, more focus on character models.

they also don't have 600-1000 people working on these games like say AC Valhalla.


When I play new Japanese games I compare them visually to previous Japanese games and this looks about where things are in modern Japanese visual standards anything outside narrow linear levels. This doesn't look much worse than RE8 and has larger areas and more going on.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 10, 2021, 04:22:38 PM
The game looks fine, more Souls than Bloodborne so probably not for me.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: thetylerrob on June 10, 2021, 04:24:23 PM
I mean it looks pretty rough but it's been in development for a long time so I'm not suprised.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 10, 2021, 04:27:12 PM
Shit, it's like some of you are expecting western visuals from Japanese developers

Oh no. This is exactly what I expected from From. I am not all that bothered by it. Just dont think it looks very pretty.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 10, 2021, 04:29:44 PM
One exception to my J-dev rant is Kojima. He's probably the only Japanese developer that either has the budget & team size (MGS games) or is technically and cares about the little details and textures (Death Stranding) where the visuals match up to worldwide $$$ games.

The game looks fine, more Souls than Bloodborne so probably not for me.

As long as it's not more Sekiro...

I just need a game I can complete with my old reflexes. Was happy to see MP phantoms in the trailer.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Don Rumata on June 10, 2021, 04:32:45 PM
Graphically though... Ooof, this game is uggo.

That's how it is when it's 2021 and you still gotta make new games run on hardware that came out 8 years ago.

Well that and being an incompetent developer
I wouldn't call them incompetent, they have tech issues, but they shit out relatively polished and content-rich games at an impressive rate.

Anyway, a bit disappointed by how close to a Dark Souls 4 this looks.  :-\
I think by the end of 3 i already started to get fed up, so i'm not sure how i'll feel 20 hours into this.

Shit, it's like some of you are expecting western visuals from Japanese developers

Oh no. This is exactly what I expected from From. I am not all that bothered by it. Just dont think it looks very pretty.
Monster design is their usual excellence.
everything else looks rather ugly though, both in texture quality and palette choices (those skyboxes are pure vomit).
But again, most of all i'm surprised by how close everything is to DkS, even the locations are basically straight out of that.

Sekiro was a much fresher departure, it seems.

Also basically G.R.R.M.'s involvement was basically: Get paid to get the name on the box, lol.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 10, 2021, 04:35:12 PM
Graphically though... Ooof, this game is uggo.

That's how it is when it's 2021 and you still gotta make new games run on hardware that came out 8 years ago.

Well that and being an incompetent developer
I wouldn't call them incompetent, they have tech issues, but they shit out relatively polished and content-rich games at an impressive rate.

It was a bit of a trollish comment. But fuck me, the state of Dark Souls 1 and 2 on pc.... and Bloodbournes frame pacing and chromatic aberration made me want to die.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Don Rumata on June 10, 2021, 04:38:40 PM
Yeah but they got better, Sekiro is excellent on PC, you can even fully remap buttons, so i could map attacks to face buttons like a proper game, instead of their "shoulder button" nonsense.  :doge
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 10, 2021, 04:47:15 PM
No ultrawide   :mindblown

But yeah, they have gotten a lot better.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Lonewulfeus on June 10, 2021, 05:33:40 PM
As long as there is no blighttown equivalent itís all good as far as Iím concerned.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Himu on June 10, 2021, 05:43:53 PM
This looks fucking sick.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on June 10, 2021, 05:53:44 PM
Sooner than I thought!  That'll be a Day Oner.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on June 10, 2021, 06:34:39 PM
does look a little fugly, but im into the style and looks good enough in motion. so long as the ps5 version is a stable res and 60fps locked idc. sekiro is stable af and looks great so im sure this will be fine
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on June 10, 2021, 06:38:37 PM
a lot of the monsters still look like they're made out of cheetos
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Don Rumata on June 10, 2021, 08:40:42 PM
No ultrawide   :mindblown

But yeah, they have gotten a lot better.
Odd that i didn't remember this, i have a 21:9 monitor, too.
I probably played mostly on the TV, or modded that shit in, since i played it with a bunch of mods (like switching Wolf's model with the monkey's one).
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 10, 2021, 10:42:15 PM
Thought it looked great. Open world Dark Souls 4 sounds pretty good to me.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Don Rumata on June 10, 2021, 10:42:16 PM
As long as there is no blighttown equivalent itís all good as far as Iím concerned.

I've got some bad new for you, my man...

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WORLD EXPLORATION IN THE LANDS BETWEEN

ELDEN RING features vast fantastical landscapes and shadowy, complex dungeons that are connected seamlessly.

Traverse the breathtaking world on foot or on horseback, alone or online with other players, and fully immerse yourself in the grassy plains, suffocating swamps, spiraling mountains, foreboding castles and other sites of grandeur on a scale never seen before in a FromSoftware title.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Himu on June 10, 2021, 11:58:33 PM

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ELDEN RING features vast fantastical landscapes and shadowy, complex dungeons that are connected seamlessly.

fuck yes make me cum baby
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Lonewulfeus on June 11, 2021, 12:33:57 AM
As long as there is no blighttown equivalent itís all good as far as Iím concerned.

I've got some bad new for you, my man...

Quote
WORLD EXPLORATION IN THE LANDS BETWEEN

ELDEN RING features vast fantastical landscapes and shadowy, complex dungeons that are connected seamlessly.

Traverse the breathtaking world on foot or on horseback, alone or online with other players, and fully immerse yourself in the grassy plains, suffocating swamps, spiraling mountains, foreboding castles and other sites of grandeur on a scale never seen before in a FromSoftware title.

I didnít mind the level itself, quite liked it when it ran at more than 4fps like it did on 360.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on June 11, 2021, 12:58:32 AM
As long as you're on halfway decent PC or a next-gen console, this will be running great.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2021, 02:56:14 AM
Yeah I have no clue why you'd being up blight town? That was ten years ago and they haven't made an area line that since and it was fixed in Souls remastered?
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on June 11, 2021, 04:09:16 AM
Dark Souls 3 and Sekiro are so awesome at 60fps+

Hell, Demon's 2020 can do 60  :lol Elden Ring might have a 120 mode for Series X
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on June 11, 2021, 07:16:25 AM
I've watched the trailer 3 times now... Haven't done that in awhile.   :hyper  But I'm surprised they didn't even hint the stealth parts as shown in that prior leaked trailer... It should still have that... right? EDIT: Maybe that was the sliver of it at the 2:27 mark.

January seems like a strange month for release though... Are they trying to avoid some other monster holiday game release?  Horizon 2 and/or BOTW2?  If so, hell ..I'd put this up against those and have a full-on, open world, raw-dogged threesome.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 11, 2021, 11:32:32 AM
Yeah I have no clue why you'd being up blight town? That was ten years ago and they haven't made an area line that since and it was fixed in Souls remastered?

Hell it was fixed in the PC release.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: demi on June 11, 2021, 01:37:13 PM
Looks great

I still have to play Sekiro, Dark Souls 3, NiOh, etc (The Surge?)

Where is Borys to cum

RIP Borys
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on June 11, 2021, 02:41:06 PM
(The Surge?)
:wut
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on June 11, 2021, 04:11:13 PM
I miss Borys and his detailed posts and screen shots.  :-\
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on June 14, 2021, 01:00:37 AM
Yeah I have no clue why you'd being up blight town? That was ten years ago and they haven't made an area line that since and it was fixed in Souls remastered?

dark souls 3 has a big poison swamp too

tbh, farron keep does kinda suck. though i also like the extra care you need to put in here to not get caught by enemies that don't lose speed in the swamp while trudging through it. blight town is actually pretty good. farron keep isn't taht bad either, but it's definitely a cornerstone of the series and generally just a meme people complain about despite blight town etc being fine in the remasters
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on June 14, 2021, 01:09:18 AM
i love the literal depths that blight town takes you to. gives the world such a grand sense of scale while staying in the confines of the castle area. i feel like the area is not actually that hard though, tomb of the giants is much more of a pain in the ass.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on June 14, 2021, 01:14:53 AM
But I'm surprised they didn't even hint the stealth parts as shown in that prior leaked trailer... It should still have that... right? EDIT: Maybe that was the sliver of it at the 2:27 mark.
there is sekiro-style grass to hide in and a crouch button. Stealth is definitely in.

 :success
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2021, 05:10:46 PM
Yeah I have no clue why you'd being up blight town? That was ten years ago and they haven't made an area line that since and it was fixed in Souls remastered?

dark souls 3 has a big poison swamp too

this is like complaining a platformer has a fire level
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on June 14, 2021, 08:38:07 PM
https://www.eurogamer.net/amp/2021-06-14-hidetaka-miyazaki-just-dropped-a-huge-amount-of-elden-ring-information

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The Lands Between, which has been deliberately designed to give "an enormous sense of scale and this broadness and openness". It's split into six major areas, each of which is the domain of a demigod. These are lined up to suggest a specific order in which to tackle them, but the player can make their own decisions about which to do first. "You won't be able to access everything from the start, but there are a lot of different ways you can approach each area," Miyazaki explained. "And there's a lot of freedom as to which order you tackle different areas as well."
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Players will be able to access a hub area a little later in the game, which you can "branch out from", and also the six main areas of The Lands Between. "These will be the domains or the areas of the main demigod bosses," Miyazaki explained. "From here, you're able to explore not only these mainline dungeon areas, but also a wide variety of catacombs, castles, and fortresses, which are interspersed throughout the map. These have a range of scale and scope, but the main dungeons are these six - these are the ones that you're going to be heading to on your adventures throughout the main world. "
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In terms of gameplay, the player will be able to jump - which should hopefully help with dodging attacks from some of those massive monsters, and players will now be able to ride around on horseback (as the trailer suggested). New additions to combat include the ability to "summon the spirits of deceased enemies and use them as allies in battles," which Miyazaki described as just one alternative to simply going head-on. "So we have a number of elements that let you approach different situations at a high level of freedom," he added.
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As for how you can acquire these abilities, Miyazaki mentioned that while some can be bought from stores or acquired from NPCs, they are generally "hidden throughout the game's world for the player to discover through exploration, rather than unlocking them through a skill tree as in previous titles."

Another difference from previous FromSoft titles (where skills and weapons were linked) is that players will be able to "freely interchange skills between a large variety of weapons" and also learn magic. And it sounds like there will be plenty to choose from, with 100 skills in total. "We think the build customisation is going to be even richer and even more varied than before," Miyazaki explained.
:mouf
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2021, 05:58:08 AM
https://www.eurogamer.net/amp/2021-06-14-hidetaka-miyazaki-just-dropped-a-huge-amount-of-elden-ring-information

Quote
The Lands Between, which has been deliberately designed to give "an enormous sense of scale and this broadness and openness". It's split into six major areas, each of which is the domain of a demigod. These are lined up to suggest a specific order in which to tackle them, but the player can make their own decisions about which to do first. "You won't be able to access everything from the start, but there are a lot of different ways you can approach each area," Miyazaki explained. "And there's a lot of freedom as to which order you tackle different areas as well."
Quote
Players will be able to access a hub area a little later in the game, which you can "branch out from", and also the six main areas of The Lands Between. "These will be the domains or the areas of the main demigod bosses," Miyazaki explained. "From here, you're able to explore not only these mainline dungeon areas, but also a wide variety of catacombs, castles, and fortresses, which are interspersed throughout the map. These have a range of scale and scope, but the main dungeons are these six - these are the ones that you're going to be heading to on your adventures throughout the main world. "
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In terms of gameplay, the player will be able to jump - which should hopefully help with dodging attacks from some of those massive monsters, and players will now be able to ride around on horseback (as the trailer suggested). New additions to combat include the ability to "summon the spirits of deceased enemies and use them as allies in battles," which Miyazaki described as just one alternative to simply going head-on. "So we have a number of elements that let you approach different situations at a high level of freedom," he added.
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As for how you can acquire these abilities, Miyazaki mentioned that while some can be bought from stores or acquired from NPCs, they are generally "hidden throughout the game's world for the player to discover through exploration, rather than unlocking them through a skill tree as in previous titles."

Another difference from previous FromSoft titles (where skills and weapons were linked) is that players will be able to "freely interchange skills between a large variety of weapons" and also learn magic. And it sounds like there will be plenty to choose from, with 100 skills in total. "We think the build customisation is going to be even richer and even more varied than before," Miyazaki explained.
:mouf

Sounds ill.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on June 15, 2021, 08:14:21 AM
This game is going to be so replayable, holy shit

 :whoo
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on June 18, 2021, 08:46:05 AM
GRRM straight up says "it's a sequel to Dark Souls".  :wut

https://twitter.com/EldenRingUpdate/status/1405624549564112899
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Raist on June 18, 2021, 09:31:49 AM
Considering his involvement was most likely handing out one of the dozens half-arsed scripts for a SoIaF spin-off he's been writing to procrastinate on finishing the main story, I doubt he knows much if anything about Dark Souls. Or Elden Ring for that matter :lol
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on June 18, 2021, 02:55:16 PM
GRRM straight up says "it's a sequel to Dark Souls".  :wut
In terms of a follow up to Dark Souls, not a direct sequel in terms of plot.

to be fair, it clearly has a lot of Dark Souls DNA.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on June 18, 2021, 04:16:11 PM
GRRM straight up says "it's a sequel to Dark Souls".  :wut
In terms of a follow up to Dark Souls, not a direct sequel in terms of plot.

to be fair, it clearly has a lot of Dark Souls DNA.
Oh yeah no doubt, just sounded like his involvement was phoned in (which it probably was lol)... a high paid author probably could've chosen less confusing words.  :lol
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Don Rumata on June 18, 2021, 06:07:46 PM
The gameplay/design actually sounds like a decent enough departure from Souls, despite obviously being close.
It's the visual design that's disappointingly close (from enemies, to environments, to armors/weapons).

On the bright side, it sounds like it'll have some good depth in the gameplay; Sekiro was fun and very different, but felt very shallow as an action game.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on August 27, 2021, 05:36:22 PM
 :hyper :hyper :hyper :hyper :hyper
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Thereís an overworld map. Unlike older, more contained From Software fare that required players to memorize their surroundings, the massive scale of Elden Ringís Lands Between warrants a full overland map, where theyíll be able to set markers to guide them to their desired destinations.
   
The Lands Between are dense and dangerous. Elden Ring features a lot of overworld travel, but not the sort where you can just set a destination and wander off to grab a snack. Itís a land filled with threats and discoveries, dotted with hand-crafted dungeons to explore and filled with dangerous creatures. Todayís previews speak of troll caravans and massive dragon attacks.
   
Dungeons, dungeons everywhere. The Lands Between or dense with dungeons. Not just the dark, dripping caverns one expects from a dark fantasy, but a wide variety of challenging fortresses covering many different biomes, like wintry peaks and underwater kingdoms. Along with these smaller dungeons, there are Legacy Dungeons, massive, intricate castles and fortifications meant to put your skills to the test for the promise of great reward.
   
Player characters, AKA The Tarnished, have many weapons at their disposal. Swords, archery, magic, and stealth are just some of the tools The Tarnished has to combat the threats encountered in the Lands Between. Some, like casting magic spells and firing arrows, can even be used while mounted on your Spirit Steed.
   
Thereís a bit of platforming as well. Along with riding your trusty, double-jumping steed, the world of Elden Ring also features items like jump pads, similar to those found in Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice. Expect to see your Tarnished hopping across dangerous terrain like a murderous little bunny.
   
Get help. Bring forth powerful allies from the ashes of the deceased to temporarily join your battles. Along with the ability to summon up to two additional player characters to your side in co-op multiplayer, youíll also be able to summon AI-controlled companions, from traditional tanks and healers to small hordes of monsters.
   
Multiple ways to take on challenges: You come across an enemy stronghold. Do you storm the front entrance, taking on the enemyís most powerful defenders, or do you sneak through the side door and stealth your way to your ultimate goal? Expect to see lots of fun videos of players overcoming obstacles in creative ways.
   
Familiar ground. While Elden Ring sounds like Fromís most ambitious game yet, familiar features and mechanics will still be in place. Fast travel is there. Thereís a young woman who helps players manage their stats as they power up. Thereís even a hub world where adventurers gather before rushing off to get themselves killed.
   
The pot goblins might be your friends. The pot goblins, also known as the Pot Boys, have charmed players since their debut. The brave folks of FextraLife (via Patrick Klepek) used one of their preview questions to ask about the Pot Boys, and got the following response: ďThe Pot Boys Ö We hope that players can explore and find their own answers in regards to the Pot People. You are free to befriend them if you wish, but we canít promise that you wonít have to smash them.Ē
https://kotaku.com/heres-all-the-new-elden-ring-news-worth-knowing-1847571910
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: BIONIC on August 27, 2021, 06:09:54 PM
That all sounds great, but will bows still have PS1-era aiming controls?  :thinking
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Himu on August 27, 2021, 08:38:17 PM
Fuck yes
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: paprikastaude on August 29, 2021, 10:37:48 AM
Western-looking fantasy irritates me and isn't what I was hoping too see for a few more FROM games. Yet still I hope Elden Ring is the game that finally takes the Zelda BotW formula to make it whole/good. I.e. by having none of that pesky Ubisoft icon overload/handholding just like in BotW, but also giving the world distinct dungeons and unique rewards for exploration instead of copy-paste-shrines, enemy camps and worthless loot.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Don Rumata on August 29, 2021, 11:39:21 AM
I expect the open world parts to be wholly mediocre/serviceable, much like the stealth in Sekiro, but i also expect the dungeons to be on par with Dark Souls, so excellent.
And of course amazing bosses as usual.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on October 18, 2021, 10:35:46 AM
Delayed to Feb. 25th... Too much stuff coming out in Feb now, but this still takes top priority over others.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 18, 2021, 11:21:22 AM
If that vid from yesterday is anything to go by, it needs delaying to Feb 2023 :kobeyuck
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on October 18, 2021, 11:47:56 AM
Looks to me it's just another victim of the cross-gen smear.

Edit: Incoming demo next month?  :hyper

https://twitter.com/ELDENRING/status/1450100145689927683

Just signed up. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 18, 2021, 11:51:28 AM
idk, unless thats from an xbox one base model and had a texture glitch, i'm expecting cyberpunk 2078 from this :lol
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on October 20, 2021, 05:22:43 PM
It's cross-gen, it needs to be able to run on OG Xbox One.  :doge

Go back in time and fire Don Mattrick so cross gen games in 2021 don't look like shit. IDK

Also it looks fine, imo. A bit better than DS3. *shrug*
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on October 20, 2021, 11:51:24 PM
If that vid from yesterday is anything to go by, it needs delaying to Feb 2023 :kobeyuck

if your posts are anything to go by, your mum should've delayed your birth.... permanently  :rage

seriously though, it was an xbone s capture of a beta build. you know how long it takes to stream in textures from a fucked 5400rpm hard drive. it's like the screenshots of fucked textures in resident evil 8 from old consoles that got people all hot and bothered
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Ghoul on October 23, 2021, 03:50:37 AM
Why would you want to play a beta of this game? Iím waiting until release.

Let the coomers test it for me.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on November 03, 2021, 04:24:13 PM
Live in 17 hours. lol Didn't know this was happening tomorrow..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JldMvQMO_5U
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Don Rumata on November 03, 2021, 08:10:51 PM
Why would you want to play a beta of this game? Iím waiting until release.

Let the coomers test it for me.
I treat BETAs as demos, when they're available.
I entered a handful of Ubisoft betas for example (Ghost Recon, Raider Republic) to know whether i wanted to buy the games or not.

For something like this though, something you'll buy 100%, i don't see the point.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on November 03, 2021, 08:42:16 PM
My hope was to give the character creator a whirl prior.. to narrow down a look (if even available in the beta)... Seems I didn't get invited, so oh well.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: remy on November 03, 2021, 09:26:07 PM
I pretty much never bother with the char creator in fromsoft games. My characters face is always some weird knight helmet.

Mainly because you cannot make a lil thickums japanese cutie/bad bitch like in ni oh2
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Don Rumata on November 03, 2021, 09:47:09 PM
You gotta play as beef jerky 90% of the time anyway. :fbm
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on November 03, 2021, 10:23:57 PM
it's good to have a real fucked up face and/or sweet hairdo for pvp though
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Kestastrophe on November 04, 2021, 10:17:39 AM
Praise the sun

https://youtu.be/JldMvQMO_5U
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: mormapope on November 04, 2021, 11:53:09 AM
Dark Souls 7 is looking like Dark Souls.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on November 04, 2021, 01:13:23 PM
Lookin' mighty fine to me  :hyper

Just finished watching.  Game looks incredible.. this better run at 60fps on that Fif. (don't see why not tbh)
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on November 04, 2021, 02:09:24 PM
I like how everyone was giving Elden Ring visuals crap and now everyone is like omg looks amazing!

 :lol

Was always going to look like Dark Souls 3/Sekiro. I wasn't concerned.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 04, 2021, 02:10:36 PM
Looks fucking sick  :lawd
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Don Rumata on November 04, 2021, 04:22:53 PM
The open world looks ugly as sin, the sky looks like someone vomited on the screen... but my opinion on the game actually went up after this preview.
Lots of cool looking things, and the dungeon at the end looked more intricate than anything they've done in a while.

In general i like that it seems to recapture the openness they had kind of lost after Dark Souls 1/2, the idea of being able to choose what to do and how to approach the map, instead of constantly being funneled into one direction.
Also there seems to be a lot of build variety.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on November 04, 2021, 04:25:26 PM
I like how everyone was giving Elden Ring visuals crap and now everyone is like omg looks amazing!

only dummies ;)

i was n't feeling all that much hype, but the preview got me. consider me hype. i have dark souls 2 scholar of the first sin to play before this, will dive in once im done with ys viii.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on November 04, 2021, 05:22:09 PM
The open world looks ugly as sin, the sky looks like someone vomited on the screen... but my opinion on the game actually went up after this preview.
Lots of cool looking things, and the dungeon at the end looked more intricate than anything they've done in a while.

In general i like that it seems to recapture the openness they had kind of lost after Dark Souls 1/2, the idea of being able to choose what to do and how to approach the map, instead of constantly being funneled into one direction.
Also there seems to be a lot of build variety.

Yeah, mostly excited for build variety again.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Don Rumata on November 04, 2021, 07:27:07 PM
Honestly i still think the visuals are messed up.

Aside from the matter of taste (i think their choices of color palette are always odd), the shadow's brightness looks straight up broken.
In particular in the open world, where sky-lighting should diffuse light, but you can see weird crushed blacks in the castle, too.

This doesn't look like a well balanced contrast to me:

(https://i.imgur.com/TCrpOgM.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/EzQB7UQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xJX7z6L.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/uyTkwNe.jpg)

If this wasn't an official trailer i'd be checking my TV settings, thinking something was fucked.

The stuff they're strong at, are still strong (enemy/monster design, architecture design, framing, etc) but they need to fix their lighting engine, because it's starting to look like shit.

Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on November 04, 2021, 07:28:43 PM
The open world looks ugly as sin, the sky looks like someone vomited on the screen...

 :larry

(https://i.imgur.com/jteBATU.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/V46b4cL.png)
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on November 04, 2021, 07:29:18 PM
Honestly i still think the visuals are messed up.

Aside from the matter of taste (i think their choices of color palette are always odd), the shadow's brightness looks straight up broken.
In particular in the open world, where sky-lighting should diffuse light, but you can see weird crushed blacks in the castle, too.

This doesn't look like a well balanced contrast to me:

(https://i.imgur.com/TCrpOgM.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/EzQB7UQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xJX7z6L.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/uyTkwNe.jpg)

If this wasn't an official trailer i'd be checking my TV settings, thinking something was fucked.

The stuff they're strong at, are still strong (enemy/monster design, architecture design, framing, etc) but they need to fix their lighting engine, because it's starting to look like shit.

p sure that's predominantly youtube compression g

that said, i would argue from software are one of the few devs comfortable with and good at using chiaroscuro to give depth and tension to their environments.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Don Rumata on November 04, 2021, 07:52:08 PM
They're not new to weirdly lit areas either.  :yeshrug
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on November 04, 2021, 08:53:30 PM
I was thinking that some of the texture work in that forest looked off to me.. wasn't even sure it was lighting related... and the lighting in that first dungeon was all sorts of Skyrim tier simplicity bright....
But then, the castle entry with it's texture work and lighting was all beautiful, consistent and way more polished looking...

The verticality looked almost Sekiro tier great.. Fall damage looked to be pretty forgiving too.  I'm assuming that'll be varied on stats though.

I'm wanting to watch it again..  Pretty hyped.

Edit:  After watching again, that bright lighting I mentioned was due to the different colored flames from the torches in there; some were blue and some where white.   :thinking
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 04, 2021, 09:08:33 PM
it looks fine for a cross gen game graphically, but the various shades of shit, piss and vomit colour palette makes me never wanna see a screen shot again, let alone play it ;)
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Don Rumata on November 04, 2021, 10:11:43 PM
The open world looks ugly as sin, the sky looks like someone vomited on the screen...

 :larry

(https://i.imgur.com/jteBATU.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/V46b4cL.png)
BTW as i said their architecture design and framing is always top notch.
I still don't like their palette.
Both of these shots would look better in black and white, and they're not even the worst part (when they fight that Wyvern in the open world, for example).

But i don't want to be always the negative Nancy here, as i said, i'm actually quite positive about it, graphics notwithstanding.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on November 05, 2021, 02:58:36 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDb5ByrWUAMR8LR?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDb5CglXsAMXvhG?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Don Rumata on November 05, 2021, 04:43:22 PM
Only 5 classes, interesting. :thinking
Probably will offer more variety within them, though.
Also no deprived equivalent this time?
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 06, 2021, 09:47:31 AM
Those are the characters available for the network test. It was the same way for DS3, only 4 were available.

EDIT: but yes those are most likely legitimate starter classes.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on November 06, 2021, 01:50:33 PM
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Elden Ring has a 4k "graphic mode" and 60fps "performance mode" on PS5 and Xbox Series X and S

Seems about the norm for current gen, but that's good with me.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: remy on November 07, 2021, 04:49:24 AM
bloody wolf suits my teen emo tendancies
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on November 07, 2021, 03:01:30 PM
most likely prophet, but depends on how shitty faith build is. i wanna be summoning big spirit energy and wielding some big stupid faith buffed greatsword. moonlight greatsword here i come (again...)
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 07, 2021, 03:39:30 PM
I hope faith keeps some more offensive spells, it was rough doing faith in Demon's without lightning to throw.  :doge

I'm curious what Arcane is all about, especially since that was the single magic stat in BB but we still have traditional intelligent and faith this time around. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on November 07, 2021, 03:42:23 PM
no LUCK stat! i been meaning to finish my ng+ luck build in demon's for a while now....

my guess is arcane will govern the strength or capacity of summoning those spirit monsters

also damn, they brought back poise!?
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on November 07, 2021, 04:14:22 PM
quite into the idea of spirits having stat reqs and scaling like weapons to force diversity. being a new mechanic im betting the most broken shit will be based around spirits at first at least
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Don Rumata on November 07, 2021, 06:50:15 PM
Where are you seeing all this shit?  ???
Is the BETA on?
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on November 07, 2021, 10:12:02 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/fTiw8Lp.png)
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Don Rumata on November 08, 2021, 08:02:16 AM
Oh yeah i forgot to go check back on that screen!
Cool to see "Med. Load" indicated clearly, not having to roll and guess where you're at.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 09, 2021, 12:45:08 PM
Why would you want to play a beta of this game? Iím waiting until release.

Let the coomers test it for me.
I got a code...Lieutenant Coomer, reporting for duty

 :salute
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on November 09, 2021, 07:02:11 PM
Why would you want to play a beta of this game? Iím waiting until release.

Let the coomers test it for me.
I got a code...Lieutenant Coomer, reporting for duty

 :salute
Just checked. Me too!   :salute
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on November 09, 2021, 08:28:57 PM
jfc, sign me up! im ready 2 die  :usacry
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on November 09, 2021, 08:51:28 PM
  :leon  :neogaf
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=elden+ring+network&_trksid=p2380057.m4084.l1313
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on November 09, 2021, 08:53:31 PM
Redeemed mine (less than 9GB) and loaded up the title splash. :rejoice Can't wait to try it this weekend!
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Ghoul on November 10, 2021, 07:15:49 AM
lol checked the sold tab, like $200 is the going rate? What the actual fuck is wrong with these people?
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 10, 2021, 07:46:27 AM
:gamer

imagine how much nintendies would pay for a code for a BOTW2 beta, 500 hunge easy :lol
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on November 10, 2021, 09:12:40 AM
it's only access for a few hrs for a network test right? lmao
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 10, 2021, 12:13:15 PM
Previews are dropping.  Going to use spoilers now, not sure what people are avoiding.
no LUCK stat! i been meaning to finish my ng+ luck build in demon's for a while now....

my guess is arcane will govern the strength or capacity of summoning those spirit monsters

also damn, they brought back poise!?
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Apparently Arcane is just a rebranding for Luck.

Also Dark Souls 1 poise is back and you'll need to increase your strength stat to wear heavy armor.  And according to Iron Pineapple, lots of powerful Faith based offensive skills this time around. :like
[close]
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on November 10, 2021, 04:40:27 PM
ive always liked faith builds and how light on offensive miracles they are with a focus on phys attacking with faith buffs. have run through dark souls with a claymore wielding faith build a few times, my fav build. asceticism  :aah
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Don Rumata on November 10, 2021, 09:29:29 PM
Watched a couple of previews.
Looks like this could be the best FROM game since DkS1, in terms of systems/gameplay, a lot of variety and creativity (my main issue with Bloodborne, which basically played all the same).
Still not digging the art direction, in that it feels too close to Souls, and doesn't have a strong identity, compared to things like BB or Sekiro, that instead had their own thing going, but anything to do with gameplay looks very, very interesting.
I just hope the open world won't mean it'll be very short in the dungeon department, but judging by the amount of bosses and mini bosses in the beta alone, it could end up being DkS2 levels of quantity.  :lawd

Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on November 11, 2021, 03:34:36 PM
seems they've basically made dark souls 4 but wanted to be rid of the lore requirements while cribbing whatever else they wanted from the series. looks fantastic, though a little concerned how OP magic seems, though I'm sure melee and bow users will get some ridiculous skills despite looking a bit anaemic in the network test compared to prophet and enchanted knight
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on November 13, 2021, 04:18:08 AM
Got to try it for an hour only.. Yep, it's open world Dark Souls.  It was still surprisingly "cut off" with limited exploration.  Went with a warrior class.  Literally just got far enough to where you can level up and get your mount before I got booted off.  I'll be honest, it was kinda odd just jumping right in it.  Everything was just kinda... there... Nothing really connecting.  Hope the retail game starts you off differently, because it felt off to me.... And for someone that loves open world games and the From Souls games, it just fell very experimental.  It's like, you can jump to ledges... But with every other open world game, you can climb and at least grab ledges... In this, it feels like a dated mechanic/controllable character is tossed into an environment that's not designed for it... I dunno. 
It was intense at times and looks great, but seemed slow.  The menus have an unusual UI and takes some adjusting to. 

I hope to try it again tomorrow, time permitting.  Other than that, I think the hour I had simply wasn't enough to sink my teeth into and felt like there's a lot... Almost too much, that I'm missing that makes this feel like an immersive action experience than just another open world fantasy game. 

Edit: after sleeping on it, just felt disappointed that I couldn't play longer.  I was so busy yesterday evening, I couldn't jump in when it started.  It just wasn't enough to experiment with move sets, or even read descriptions of things I gathered.. I really need to play some more.  It was barely a tease.
 :fbm
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Don Rumata on November 13, 2021, 11:50:37 AM
Most open world games are designed with the idea of creating a "living breathing world", from what i've seen this looks more like an extended FROM level, a large map with stuff put in, but not necessarily trying to recreate some kind of systemic lived-in space, beyond a general abstraction of the lore's needs.

On the plus side, it's going to be filled to the brim with all kinds of stuff.
On the down side, it probably won't feel much like a real place where people live, or used to live, in some form.

This is just the impression i get from the footage i've seen, though.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on November 13, 2021, 03:07:53 PM
You're kinda right.  It's just all tossed into an open world with all sorts of environments, enemy types, nooks and crannies... Didn't tap nowhere enough "lore" to make it a more "believable" world. 

Not trying to crap on it at all, the combat and exploration is still solid.  It was full-on DS3 style fighting and then some.  Parrying and knocking off a charging enemy on a horse is super satisfying.  Going pseudo stealth is fun.  Having the chance to fill up a flask after defeating a group of enemies is nice.  ...ugh.. thinking about it more, I'm yearning for more .. The time limit really dampened things.  Guess it is just a network test and not a full fledged demo. 
Another sesh started an hour ago and I gotta go do shit.  :beli
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 13, 2021, 06:59:19 PM
Played 2 1/2 hours today while the session was open. Time flew by quick


The western shore of the map gave me big Shadow of the Colossus vibes when I first rode down there, sans the Land Octopuses crawling around.  :o
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on November 13, 2021, 07:24:41 PM
Man, I had to b-line it to the Storm Castle.. I didn't even make it there before I got booted.  Did defeat one of those giant land octopus and an angry guy on horse back near an open marsh.
I so wanted to try a Enchanted Knight too, along with the Bloody Wolf.
Been contemplating getting up early to join the next sesh.  These staggered times have totally not been in my favor.  :lol
Edit: Opened up my schedule to play the last session tomorrow night.  :hyper
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on November 15, 2021, 12:41:18 PM
Got to play some more last night.  Didnít realize you can continue your save from the prior sesh. (Was wondering how folks made so much progress in so little time)  I restarted as the Bloody Wolf build.  Had a much better experience this go round.  Managed to go through the tutorial cave this time as well.  Funny how easily it can be missed/skipped.  From there learning the counter attack, added yet another layer of depth.  The combat in this game compared to DS3 is way more varied with itís counters, specials, horse combat, etc..  And luring out the larger enemies that change the landscape with destructible environments (Giant came out and wrecked a camp with stone walls it hit and destroyed) This is really gonna turn out to be something special.  So ready.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 17, 2021, 12:03:33 PM
Quote from: famitsu interview w/ From Software producer Yasuhiro Kitao
There are currently 10 starting classes. Some of the starting classes in the closed network test are included, others not.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on November 17, 2021, 12:51:32 PM
Quote from: famitsu interview w/ From Software producer Yasuhiro Kitao
There are currently 10 starting classes. Some of the starting classes in the closed network test are included, others not.
:gladbron
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on January 14, 2022, 02:20:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD8I0ZvuR9o
 :titus  So much stuff I had no clue you could do or how it worked.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on January 14, 2022, 09:07:54 PM
Hadn't seen much gameplay of this, it doesn't look as 'next gen' as I expected based on the released trailers but the battle systems look interesting.
I can't really tell how this game works in terms of story and progression though. Is it just raiding bandit campsTM and saving at bonfires?
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: HardcoreRetro on January 15, 2022, 05:22:02 AM
Hadn't seen much gameplay of this, it doesn't look as 'next gen' as I expected based on the released trailers but the battle systems look interesting.
I can't really tell how this game works in terms of story and progression though. Is it just raiding bandit campsTM and saving at bonfires?

It's a cross-gen game. What's next-gen even mean in this context?

From Software's strong points were never their graphical fidelity. It's more on their art design and attention to detail. The game seems to be cut into six huge zones which follow a sort of difficulty progression, but you're allowed to tackle it any way you want. Kinda sounds like Demon's Souls nexus transposed on an open world structure.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: therealdeal on January 16, 2022, 11:23:08 AM
Souls games have never clicked with me but this looks very interesting
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on January 22, 2022, 02:18:37 PM
Folks getting ER on PC should maybe reconsider at first if this same online structure is being used...  :doge

https://twitter.com/OtzdarvaYT/status/1484920898431946754
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Don Rumata on January 22, 2022, 08:16:15 PM
Just saw this, yeah i don't think i'm gonna get it until that's fixed.  :lol
Could play it offline, but i think coop is a fun part of these games.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on January 23, 2022, 08:51:12 PM
FS has apparently shut down servers for DS1, 2 & 3.  Hope this doesn't delay ER any further..  Gotta do what they gotta do though.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on January 23, 2022, 10:50:15 PM
DS3 online is actually pretty great, my favourite to duel in by far. I like it in all souls games, but feel punished for using it in Demon's Souls because of the way world tendency works, stupid piece of shit mechanic.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Kestastrophe on January 24, 2022, 12:25:12 PM
https://youtu.be/upLIsQjhHKE

 :whew
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Himu on January 24, 2022, 01:28:14 PM
DAMN
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on January 24, 2022, 03:20:43 PM
https://twitter.com/EldenRingUpdate/status/1485600886135136258

Gone gold!

 :hyper :aah
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on January 28, 2022, 07:33:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GZdBPXuLR4&t

 :lawd
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on January 28, 2022, 07:51:27 PM
Need this game  :dsp
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: chronovore on January 31, 2022, 09:35:41 PM
FS has apparently shut down servers for DS1, 2 & 3.  Hope this doesn't delay ER any further..  Gotta do what they gotta do though.

Wait, the PC version of this has been out in the wild with script-exploit capability for how long?
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Coax on January 31, 2022, 10:49:01 PM
Turns out they'll be using the kernel-level Easy Anti-Cheat for PC and it's been said this predated the discovery of the server vulnerability. Real shame.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Himu on February 01, 2022, 12:03:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GZdBPXuLR4&t

 :lawd

Holy shit this world design looks so open ended
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on February 03, 2022, 02:18:55 PM
The ten starting classes:

Vagabond
Warrior
Hero
Bandit
Astrologer
Prophet
Samurai
Prisoner
Intelligencer
Wretch (Deprived)

Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on February 10, 2022, 01:40:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJbrRwyxk0E

 :hyper :lawd :whoo
Can't come soon enough
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on February 11, 2022, 02:07:39 PM
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507945456064790553/941725788502372412/unknown.png)
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on February 19, 2022, 08:40:17 PM
Does have spoilers..... But hot damn! :lawd
https://youtu.be/pDUZNP52obY
 :mouf
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on February 21, 2022, 09:39:39 AM
All aboard, muhfuggaz!...  This week we ride!!!

(https://assets.gamepur.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/17165734/elden-ring-bus.jpg)
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on February 21, 2022, 09:41:55 AM
A lot of the major bosses and locations are out in the wild now. Glad I haven't had time to give that stuff any attention. I'm not even watching that overview trailer.

Can already tell this game will be something special, no reason to take the shine off this close to the finish line.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on February 21, 2022, 09:50:54 AM
A lot of the major bosses and locations are out in the wild now. Glad I haven't had time to give that stuff any attention. I'm not even watching that overview trailer.

Can already tell this game will be something special, no reason to take the shine off this close to the finish line.
Yeah... don't.  It did spoil some stuff, but did increase hype to an unprecedented degree..   :whew
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Polident Hive on February 21, 2022, 10:09:54 AM
Can't believe I'm about to buy a game at release for full price.

:walkaway
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on February 21, 2022, 04:35:41 PM
I got my mommy to buy it for my birthday like I'm a little baby boy. 

:walkaway :walkaway :walkaway

I haven't asked to be bought games in like a decade. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Tuckers Law on February 21, 2022, 08:05:56 PM
Anyone know when GMG will have the digital codes available?
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: chronovore on February 21, 2022, 09:46:06 PM
I got my mommy to buy it for my birthday like I'm a little baby boy. 

:walkaway :walkaway :walkaway

I haven't asked to be bought games in like a decade. 
You've been a good boy, and you deserve it.
I'd tease you about being a grown-ass man who has a beard and drinks whisky still getting nice games from mommy, but the last two years have been mean enough to all of us.

Anyone know when GRRMG will have the digital codes available?
FTFY
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: bork on February 21, 2022, 10:04:04 PM
Anyone know when GMG will have the digital codes available?

Sometime during release day at the earliest.  They don't usually send codes out early. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Tuckers Law on February 21, 2022, 10:29:58 PM

Sometime during release day at the earliest.  They don't usually send codes out early.

 :stahp
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: bork on February 21, 2022, 10:31:37 PM
I stopped buying launch games from them.  Not because of the lack of pre-loading, but because you obviously can't refund something you got and redeemed whereas that's not a problem on Steam.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on February 22, 2022, 10:20:58 PM
Anyone know when GMG will have the digital codes available?
Saw on REEEEE that they'll be available on the 23rd.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Supermanisdead on February 22, 2022, 11:04:13 PM
she's preloaded girlies
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: bork on February 23, 2022, 12:22:52 AM
Anyone know when GMG will have the digital codes available?
Saw on REEEEE that they'll be available on the 23rd.

From GMG:
Quote
To ensure a consistent experience for all customers, pre-purchase keys will be distributed Wednesday 23rd - giving you over 24 hours to pre-load Elden Ring ahead of launch.

Good to see from them.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: HardcoreRetro on February 23, 2022, 10:06:52 AM
The reviews for the game seemingly killed both Metacritic and Opencritic. Last time Opencritic loaded for me it had 36 reviews with a 96% average score. 100% recommendation.

Edit: Metacritic has it at 98.

Edit 2: Guess I at least don't have to cancel my pre-order.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on February 23, 2022, 10:42:51 AM
"One of the best games of all time"

"This feels like 2 or 3 Dark Souls game mashed together"

  :titus
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on February 23, 2022, 10:58:10 AM
she's preloaded girlies
same  :doggy
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: tiesto on February 23, 2022, 11:56:15 AM
This may finally be the first Souls game I try and finish.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 23, 2022, 12:00:52 PM
curious to see whether the greatest game of all time :gamer reviews stick and are the common sentiment or if in 6 months people get over the hype decide its shit, ala GTA4. souls fans can be mad specific about their games.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: bork on February 23, 2022, 12:58:38 PM
This may finally be the first Souls game I try and finish.

It's pretty tempting, gotta say.  Am not a fan of Souls games, but this looks so good.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on February 23, 2022, 01:17:13 PM
Time to shelf Forgotten West, bois... time to bottom out; dogs in a tub style, in this Ring.  :cody
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Tasty on February 23, 2022, 01:25:42 PM
I treat BETAs as demos, when they're available.

Oddly, I have the same methodology when it comes to dating.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: mormapope on February 23, 2022, 01:40:42 PM
Sounds like all the experience and design that's been a part of every Souls game makes up Elden Ring as a whole. Sounds like it'll be a terrific game.

It sucks though performance impressions are all over the place for most platforms, but we'll see very soon if the day 1 patch fixes a lot of those issues.

Preordered and preloaded on Series X.  :-*
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: HardcoreRetro on February 23, 2022, 03:08:26 PM
On Series X you also get VRR so if your tv supports that, it should take away most of the issue.

I got the PS5 version cause I prefer the L1/R1 button over the Xbox bumpers.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Tuckers Law on February 23, 2022, 05:49:59 PM
Anyone know when GMG will have the digital codes available?
Saw on REEEEE that they'll be available on the 23rd.
From GMG:
Quote
To ensure a consistent experience for all customers, pre-purchase keys will be distributed Wednesday 23rd - giving you over 24 hours to pre-load Elden Ring ahead of launch.

Good to see from them.
:mynicca
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on February 23, 2022, 05:53:48 PM
I still have so many games to play and yet I want to buy this knowing that I won't have time to play :existential
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: bork on February 23, 2022, 06:48:25 PM
I still have so many games to play and yet I want to buy this knowing that I won't have time to play :existential

Yeah.  They got me.   :lol  Got an email from GMG for another 10% off so got it for $45. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Polident Hive on February 23, 2022, 07:36:24 PM
Reading how the open world structure is transcendent without sacrificing complex interior locations and dungeons. :titus
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: pilonv1 on February 23, 2022, 10:10:36 PM
I still have so many games to play and yet I want to buy this knowing that I won't have time to play :existential

I don't even like Souls games and I'm very tempted despite having no time for anything.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: chronovore on February 23, 2022, 11:54:04 PM
I still have so many games to play and yet I want to buy this knowing that I won't have time to play :existential

I don't even like Souls games and I'm very tempted despite having no time for anything.
I'm in the middle of Watchdoges Legion, friends are telling me to get Cyberpunk 2077 now that it's fixed up and PS5 ready, and a half dozen people at my work are rabid to play this Elden Ring. Don't need to throw US$70 or whatever at this new game, when so many other games are still singing their siren song.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: bork on February 24, 2022, 12:03:06 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Open_Critic/status/1496511026912710661

:woooo
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: MMaRsu on February 24, 2022, 02:46:39 AM
bought, fuck it

Havent seen much on it, maybe 5mins in total from over the years but I welcome any FromSoft game
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on February 24, 2022, 09:13:20 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Open_Critic/status/1496511026912710661

:woooo
Mario Odyssey #2?  :kobeyuck  Game was pretty great, but not that great.   And RDR2?  I've played about 3 hours of that game and never have been so bored in my life.  Should I be questioning their Elden Ring score?  ;)

I love how they put "Of All Time".  :rofl
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: therealdeal on February 24, 2022, 09:50:31 AM
Odyssey is probably the best game in probably the most famous video game franchise ever, so
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on February 24, 2022, 12:33:43 PM
So torn on the starting class.  Felt I've narrowed down to either Vagabond or Confessor, but question whether Wretch should be the proper choice..   :thinking
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: who is ted danson? on February 24, 2022, 12:56:48 PM
https://twitter.com/schizobased/status/1496539487429853185

 :lol :lol
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: mormapope on February 24, 2022, 12:57:53 PM
My go to is Hero, with a ginger beard, named Holden Axe.

Game is immediately gorgeous, probably the best looking open world game of all time artistically.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Beezy on February 24, 2022, 03:57:51 PM
I still have so many games to play and yet I want to buy this knowing that I won't have time to play :existential

Yeah.  They got me.   :lol  Got an email from GMG for another 10% off so got it for $45.
This same deal is sitting in my inbox. It's tempting.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: benjipwns on February 24, 2022, 11:15:29 PM
https://twitter.com/RaymondTracing/status/1496766736124710912
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Polident Hive on February 25, 2022, 01:10:02 AM
According to people who spend time analyzing all this, closest to constant 60 FPS on console is the PS4 copy running on a PS5 at the cost of resolution and grass density. VRR on Xbox helps there.

Gonna play the PS5 version on PS5. Not too fussy about all that.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on February 25, 2022, 04:10:01 AM
https://twitter.com/RaymondTracing/status/1496766736124710912
Finally, someone with the determination, courage and bravery to go to bat for Ubisoft on social media.

Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: pilonv1 on February 25, 2022, 04:44:34 AM
Is the PC version really capped to 60fs?
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Coax on February 25, 2022, 05:03:34 AM
Is the PC version really capped to 60fs?

There's an early mod (https://github.com/uberhalit/EldenRingFpsUnlockAndMore) to address this however it only works in offline mode. Some also bypass EAC using known methods to be on the safer side, which also opens the game up to widescreen mods.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on February 25, 2022, 05:51:09 AM
This game is way uglier than I expected. I feel like DS3/Sekiro looked way better but I guess open-world hits hard. Also runs so fucking bad on PS5. Gonna try playing the PS4 version in BC tomorrow.

Otherwise game seems cool. Got to the first real boss, and got my ass handed to me a bunch. Need to explore and level and upgrade a bit first. The first boss reminds me more of Sekiro than Souls in terms of moveset.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: bork on February 25, 2022, 07:54:40 AM
This game is way uglier than I expected. I feel like DS3/Sekiro looked way better but I guess open-world hits hard. Also runs so fucking bad on PS5. Gonna try playing the PS4 version in BC tomorrow.

Otherwise game seems cool. Got to the first real boss, and got my ass handed to me a bunch. Need to explore and level and upgrade a bit first. The first boss reminds me more of Sekiro than Souls in terms of moveset.

Looks pretty good on PC.  Character base models are mostly still ugly which seems to be a Souls staple.  Played it at 4K on my OLED with everything on the highest settings and it stayed at 60 FPS, but the stuttering issues people mentioned from previous versions are still there. 

It's a From game, so I expect some jank.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on February 25, 2022, 08:56:13 AM
Having some graphical issues (random black bar at top and lights flicker)  :(   Only got to play 30 mins last night.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on February 25, 2022, 10:19:14 AM
Not gonna have a chance to jump in for like another 13 hours.  :-\
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: mormapope on February 25, 2022, 10:44:58 AM
Playing in frame rate mode on Series X and performance has been pretty smooth, some pop in for textures and enemies, but smooth performance.

Visually it's way better than both Dark Souls 3 and Sekiro, regarding lighting, shadows, character models, everything almost. I've been playing Dark Souls 3 lately, and it's not even close to looking as good as Elden Ring.

Time of day and what's going on in the environment affects lighting and atmosphere a fuck ton. The game will look more washed out when it's overcast weather. I was not expecting weather and time of day to affect visuals as much as they do.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Tuckers Law on February 25, 2022, 11:16:59 AM
Frame issues and some graphical jank are a proper Souls experience, FROM delivers again :jeb
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: mormapope on February 25, 2022, 11:59:49 AM
From the few hours I played last night:

Ran away from a giant that caught up and chased me for a long time. Explored a swamp and fought a very fast and almost realistic dragon fly. A lil bit later, a very big enemy appeared and I ran away in fear and gittiness.

Got my ass kicked by the tree sentinel multiple times. After unlocking a new mechanic and changing to a longsword/greatsword, beat his ass swiftly. Found a dungeon and did enough of it to find a summon and cool ass stone boss.

The enemy variety, balance, combat flow and feel, rewarding loot/exploration, those few hours were better than all previous Souls games and the vast majority of action and RPG games.

Ive beaten Dark Souls 1&2, got through a lot of Dark Souls 3, and played a bit of Sekiro. From's games are usually 8/10's to me. Elden Ring is legitimately a masterpiece in design and artistically.

This is the game I've wanted since Dark Souls.
 :lawd
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on February 25, 2022, 12:12:18 PM
Yeah, this def looks better than DS3. On native PS5 app and I can feel the framerate chug quite a bit. Not a gamebreaker for me but in a world where Demon's runs at a solid 60 and looks significantly better, the performance is disappointing but not surprising.

Put about an hour in, just running around to whatever caught my eye. Was eventually killed by a big poison plant after I ran out of estus. Poison seems to last quite a while now. Got the crafting kit but haven't figured out poison cures yet. Triangle to confirm is fucking with my head, as X to jump. I need to finish off my other games before I put too much time into this, the control scheme is just too different.

...But I can already tell this is going to eat up hundreds of hour of my time.

Edit: Performance really doesn't feel improved from the closed network test. Some of the item locations have changed tho.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: ToxicAdam on February 25, 2022, 01:05:38 PM
If you boil this game down, it's super punch out with more variety.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on February 25, 2022, 01:28:24 PM
Maybe itís just the opening area. Idk looks like a PS3 game to me. The character models are fine, just the grassy fields environment with no lighting looks basic as hell.

I just think Demon Souls PS5 spoiled me. Also coming from Horizon 2, which is arguably the best looking game ever made, just makes it harder.

The fact the PS4 version looks almost identical sure says something. Only difference is grass density and slightly lower res.


*edit* Also I think it's a time & place thing. I remember actually being "woaaah" impressed by Bloodborne early in the PS4 gen (outside the chromatic abberation), really impressed by DS3 @ 60fps on PC at launch since it was Bloodborne quality but without the abberation @ 60fps, decently impressed by Sekiro because it was a cool looking nice meaty game with good Japan tenchu environments and sword effects.

I think if Elden Ring had come out like 2-3 years ago before the new gen of consoles it would've looked good/fine. It's just that 2 years into PS5/XSX it looks really, really dated off the bat. Then again I've played all of 1 hour in the opening grass area and castle gates and a cave so I haven't seen shit including time of day stuff.

Anyhow, time to boot up the PS4 version and see if I feel any different with locked 60fps
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: archnemesis on February 25, 2022, 01:39:49 PM
I've only played it for 20 minutes, but I too was surprised at how unpolished it felt. Hopefully they can sort out the performance issues. I'll try to play more of it tonight.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on February 25, 2022, 02:06:20 PM
Ok, yeah on PS5 the PS4 BC version is the way to go. 60fps locked does go a long way. Looks last gen but not ps3. Itís a bit soft and aliased at 1800p but just looks like how souls games typically look outside Sekiro which I think looked the best and most detailed.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 25, 2022, 02:38:37 PM
https://twitter.com/RaymondTracing/status/1496766736124710912

If From Software released a Souls game every 3 months, then we'd have a problem.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: HardcoreRetro on February 25, 2022, 03:21:39 PM
Which ones were even repeat formula?

It's insulting that they'd compare the dense curated content of a Souls game with the Ubisoft copy paste formula. It's as if one is not the same as the other.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Beezy on February 25, 2022, 04:30:56 PM
Are there any PC/console comparisons out there?
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on February 25, 2022, 07:14:21 PM
So I am dumb because I'm not reaaaally playing this yet and just messing around to get a feel for it before I go back and finish up Horizon 2 which at the rate I'm progressing is gonna be about 100 hour clear (Original Horizon + Expansion was only 62 hours, so yeah H2 is a fucking huge Skyrim-ass game) so a few more weeks in that game before I sit down and really play Elden.

I've explored around a tiny bit, but mostly just got to boss #1 with two different builds on PS5 (melee) and PS4 (magic). I've only gained like 1 level and have zero weapon upgrades, starting armor and I don't know how to use my summon spirits I've collected. Even with basically a naked starting run I'm getting the hang of this guy and getting to his 2nd phase. What's the best way to gear up at the start for this fight? I do piddly damage and so it's just a long ass fight and I mostly take hits at close range when the guy seems to never stop slashing. I can dodge his ranged stuff (dash in and swing x 2 -> tail swipe; leaping easy dodge move) and get a few hits in consistently but he keeps switching up which combo he does at a close range after a windup staff swing so having some trouble there. Sometimes he immediately goes into short dagger slashes x 2-3, sometimes he does a few wide range swings after. I also die in 2 hits with these builds.

When I get back to this, need to take my time and start exploring and gaining some levels and weapon upgrades to make this fight a bit easier. Seems like a pretty stonewall first boss. Can't imagine recommending this game to anyone that hasn't played through a Souls game before. I think DeSo has the best intro with Phalanax being a joke and good 1st Souls boss and Tower Knight good 2nd Souls boss to start to get the hang of things.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on February 25, 2022, 08:59:19 PM
I beat a cool dog boss (?) and just got my horse. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: MMaRsu on February 25, 2022, 09:19:50 PM
Game is amazing and looks insane at 4k in HDR on PC

Stuttering is fucked up though so I hope FROM fixes that shit
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: MMaRsu on February 25, 2022, 09:20:16 PM
I beat a cool dog boss (?) and just got my horse.

That one fast attack he does is very annoying it took me quite a few tries.

Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: MMaRsu on February 25, 2022, 09:32:32 PM
I heard the starting area before the castle is like 5% of the map  :lol :o
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on February 25, 2022, 11:12:47 PM
Beat the wolf-man mini boss in one go   :klob
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on February 26, 2022, 12:53:44 AM
These bosses after The Fell? Any tips for that guy?
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Supermanisdead on February 26, 2022, 01:00:27 AM
beat miss margit and decided to go back and explore the other parts of the map. found some dragons and some items to get extra flasks. 10/10
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: MMaRsu on February 26, 2022, 06:02:19 AM
If you wanna see a streamer who's never played a Souls game before fumble with the game for 7 hrs check out docs stream (he didnt like it lmao)

https://youtu.be/-dJa9ilV5CE
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: MMaRsu on February 26, 2022, 07:26:53 AM
Margit was one hard fucker, had to resort to summoning that npc dude
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on February 26, 2022, 10:24:46 AM
Ok, yeah on PS5 the PS4 BC version is the way to go. 60fps locked does go a long way. Looks last gen but not ps3. Itís a bit soft and aliased at 1800p but just looks like how souls games typically look outside Sekiro which I think looked the best and most detailed.
Damn.. now I'm torn whether I should try this or not. Played for a about 3 hours on the PS5 version. (And an hour creating a character, as usual)  I'd hate to start over not knowing whether or not they're gonna patch it sooner than later.   I do want more vegetation and better res and lighting occlusion if possible, but I want the frame rate priority too...  :-\  Wish it would let me bounce between versions with the same save file.  I need to make a decision before tonight... Dumb Delivery ftw, I guess :cat The cross-gen this era has been the most infuriating.  Guess it's not going to get any better, unless devs stick with one or the other...

Edit: I suppose at this point, it's sounding like I should suck it up and start over with the PS4 version. ..ugh.  Guess it'll take me less time to create a character again and catch up... Wish I screen shot my character creation settings.. would save me a good bit of time. At the same time, I did question my tattoo color and placement.. I'll probably still spend an hour creating... I can't help it..
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on February 26, 2022, 12:03:57 PM
The first boss is hard.  :(  Also, some lady gave me a hug and said I felt warm. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on February 26, 2022, 12:53:48 PM
Ok, yeah on PS5 the PS4 BC version is the way to go. 60fps locked does go a long way. Looks last gen but not ps3. Itís a bit soft and aliased at 1800p but just looks like how souls games typically look outside Sekiro which I think looked the best and most detailed.
Damn.. now I'm torn whether I should try this or not. Played for a about 3 hours on the PS5 version. (And an hour creating a character, as usual)  I'd hate to start over not knowing whether or not they're gonna patch it sooner than later.   I do want more vegetation and better res and lighting occlusion if possible, but I want the frame rate priority too...  :-\  Wish it would let me bounce between versions with the same save file.  I need to make a decision before tonight... Dumb Delivery ftw, I guess :cat The cross-gen this era has been the most infuriating.  Guess it's not going to get any better, unless devs stick with one or the other...

Edit: I suppose at this point, it's sounding like I should suck it up and start over with the PS4 version. ..ugh.  Guess it'll take me less time to create a character again and catch up... Wish I screen shot my character creation settings.. would save me a good bit of time. At the same time, I did question my tattoo color and placement.. I'll probably still spend an hour creating... I can't help it..

I mean, you can just try the ps4 version for 20 mins and decide whether it's worth starting over for the framerate difference.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on February 26, 2022, 01:50:18 PM
Went exploring, got trapped in a mine for an hour.  Thought I had to beat the boss to get out and started to get scared I fucked up bad.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: MMaRsu on February 26, 2022, 06:18:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdstSHeoNGA
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: The Sceneman on February 27, 2022, 02:40:03 AM
Performance is OK on series X. Haven't played a souls game in a long time so I'm getting my ass kicked pretty bad. Need better gear ASAP
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on February 27, 2022, 04:23:31 AM
Was about to start a new game in the PS4 version, when a patch popped up for the PS5 ver.  Gotta say, the patch did help stabilize the fps in performance mode... I wouldn't say rock solid 60fps, but it's noticably better.  Glad they dropped that quick.

Game is nuts.  At Sofria River area atm..  :crazy
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Supermanisdead on February 27, 2022, 05:25:33 AM
don't take too many hugs from mommy. it lowers ur max hp
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on February 27, 2022, 09:06:28 AM
See a bear.  I fuck it up from horseback.  Makes me feel confident.   Overconfident.  See a bigger bear.  It runs me down even though I'm on horseback :dead
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: HardcoreRetro on February 27, 2022, 10:05:34 AM
Did one of those cellars with a chest at the end of them. Chest was trapped and it teleported me to an entire different region from Limgrave. The region it sent me to is completely fucked up.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Beezy on February 27, 2022, 12:08:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EtcrUrsl38

yikes
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: MMaRsu on February 27, 2022, 12:08:58 PM
https://twitter.com/DrDisrespect/status/1497733074632667136
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Polident Hive on February 27, 2022, 12:35:15 PM
Got my PS5 copy today and likely gonna exchange it for PS4. Not for performance reasons. Just, buying it on PS4 gives access to PS4 and PS5. PS5 is only PS5. Saves are a one way transfer from PS4 to PS5. ???

No real reason to get the PS5 version aside from the white strip on the case. DF video makes me glad I didn't go with PC, trying to stretch the 1060 further.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on February 27, 2022, 01:08:52 PM
Yeah, disc version, definitely wanna go with the PS4 version.  PS5 version updated yesterday though and it's noticably smoother with a more stable frame rate.. Patched way quicker than expected.  Swinging the camera around dense areas barely stuttered, if at all, from what I noticed.

Can't help but think of Baldurs Gate 1 music with Limgrave area music. Lol.  Haven't even tried the first main boss yet.. way too distracted exploring.  The random little things you come across are so cool and mysterious, like certain owls with glowing eyes at night.  And a random cemetery in the middle of a forest with 3 new enemy types.  It's taken me a bit to get use to the handling of going 1 to 2 handed, but I actually like the switching of triangle being tethered to it.  Feels natural now and the proper melding of Sekiro and DS controls.  It's gonna be hard to go back to other FS games after this.  I've seen nothing yet, but am completely enthralled by this game so far.  GOTY already.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: bork on February 27, 2022, 02:12:11 PM
The PC version definitely needs some updating.  Ran into an issue with my laptop where if i play the game directly on the laptop screen instead of on a connected display, it ran at 40 FPS.  This laptop can handle the game at max settings no sweat, so it didn't make sense.  It turns out that the game doesn't like the 165hz refresh rate and was defaulting to 40hz instead.  I had to add a custom resolution setting with 60hz as an option for it to run at 60 FPS.
:dizzy
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on February 27, 2022, 02:53:47 PM
I've been slowly playing witht he pc settings and have fixed 80% of the issues.

Also I keep leveling up strength and endurance t like its Dark souls strength build.  no idea if that is what I should be doing.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on February 27, 2022, 04:05:49 PM
(https://preview.redd.it/dky2nbs13ek81.png?width=538&auto=webp&s=40d286e74574b1d659af7b639748a939ca1bff6f)
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: BrokenVerses on February 28, 2022, 01:25:06 AM
Holy shit, the performance when fighting the Tree Sentinel is unreal lol. Other than that it's been fine and looks great.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: mormapope on February 28, 2022, 09:30:50 AM
The combat on horseback is super fun, satisfying, and tight mechanically. The vast majority of games have really sloppy feeling vehicle or mount combat.

Two different swings timing wise for melee, being able to direct your attack to either side, double jump (right from the get go, no skill tree unlock bullshit ), and lock on combined with free camera control.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on February 28, 2022, 09:34:26 AM
Ya its good.  It's still more sloppy than unmounted combat -- which is to be expected -- but this means that I keep spending so much time on horse that I get rusty for unmounted fighting.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: mormapope on February 28, 2022, 09:40:40 AM
https://youtu.be/A4StrGm_xYI

I've witnessed this as well, can't tell if it's the crucified corpses screaming.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on February 28, 2022, 09:43:30 AM
I was considering adding even more to dex because of the mounts.  On a dime, could literally run circles around the blue glowing horned dudes and hack them down in seconds, stamina allowing.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on February 28, 2022, 09:47:25 AM
They do scream.  I killed a singular dog around one -- felt bad cause think it was guarding its crucified master.  We are also meant to feel bad killing the tortoises right? 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on February 28, 2022, 10:52:23 AM
You're killing the tortoises?

 :jeanluc
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 28, 2022, 11:46:05 AM
You're killing?

:jeanluc
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: MMaRsu on February 28, 2022, 12:33:39 PM
Yeah going pacifist mode on the bosses is probably way better, just strike up a conversation with them
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: demi on February 28, 2022, 12:40:11 PM
Did they tie weight limit to some dumbass stat like Vitality in this one
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: demi on February 28, 2022, 12:41:40 PM
Which ones were even repeat formula?

It's insulting that they'd compare the dense curated content of a Souls game with the Ubisoft copy paste formula. It's as if one is not the same as the other.

Curious what unique differences you found between Dark Souls 1 - 2 - 3
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: MMaRsu on February 28, 2022, 01:00:13 PM
https://youtu.be/c6MW-qdNoYA
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: MMaRsu on February 28, 2022, 01:00:23 PM
Did they tie weight limit to some dumbass stat like Vitality in this one

No enduranxe
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: demi on February 28, 2022, 01:17:55 PM
Great, DS3 was so dumb for that lmao
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Uncle on February 28, 2022, 02:15:29 PM
https://twitter.com/buttplugio/status/1497742484767576069
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: chronovore on February 28, 2022, 10:26:20 PM
https://twitter.com/buttplugio/status/1497742484767576069
:dead
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: archnemesis on March 01, 2022, 03:05:32 AM
When I first started it I ended up going in the wrong direction and was annihilated by boss encounters. In my second play session I found the beginner path and now I'm enjoying it a lot more. I haven't put many hours into Souls games in the last decade, but my experience from Demon's Souls was enough to handle soldiers, goblins, wolves, and other tarnished without dying once.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: HardcoreRetro on March 01, 2022, 04:38:08 AM
Which ones were even repeat formula?

It's insulting that they'd compare the dense curated content of a Souls game with the Ubisoft copy paste formula. It's as if one is not the same as the other.

Curious what unique differences you found between Dark Souls 1 - 2 - 3

Great, DS3 was so dumb for that lmao

You're already pointing out stuff yourself. It's only repeat formula if you look at it in the broadest sense. It's about as dumb as going back to calling all fps games Doom clones.

Dark Souls 2 was the closest to the first game but felt extremely undercooked. The removal of the lighting engine resulted in one of the most flat looking worlds, also atmospheric effects were lacking. They tied something like I-frames to a stat. Something that's integral to the Souls combat system completely fucking over the feel of combat. Enemy hit animations were extremely undercooked. Half the time when you hit someone, the biggest indication of it actually doing something is the health bar going down. They decided to load the game with gank squads even though the combat is obviously designed for 1 on 1 combat.

Dark Souls 3 speeds up the gameplay significantly to the point it feels more like Bloodborne than Dark Souls. Except they forgot to add some of the mechanics that made it work in Bloodborne. The grace period in which you can get back your health. The quick dash. Weapons that are designed around the combat instead of just importing the Dark Souls 1 weapon set.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: MMaRsu on March 01, 2022, 06:01:58 AM
Timestamped for 1:18:41

https://youtu.be/BKYjtii9er0?t=4721

Amaaaaaaazing intro really. I didnt expect him to try the game again, and especially not that amazing intro. Worth to be watched (only is around 30seconds)
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Pissy F Benny on March 01, 2022, 06:40:25 AM
I don't think there are many 14 year olds reading the bire dude :doge
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: MMaRsu on March 01, 2022, 08:11:40 AM
I dont think a lot of 14 year olds would appreciate the fine intro montage they made for Elden Ring, its pretty Epic and only about 30 seconds so its worth the watch
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 01, 2022, 09:39:17 AM
Started Elden Ring last night, XSX version. My only experience with Souls is I played Dark Souls 1 for about 5 hours and got frustrated and quit.

Picked a Samurai, because duh.

Spent about two hours just walking around the first area, not even really doing anything. Just picking up crafting materials, looking around, and fighting an occasional mob. This is awesome, it's like playing Skyrim for the first time. I killed a bridge troll thing and got a Pumpkin Helm that looks badass but weighs 14 lbs.

Mom took me to the Hall of Justice. I have enough whetstones to level my Uchigatana to +2. I level up once put a point in strength. I dunno. I guess Dex is better for Samurai, but I wanna be a stronk boi. I look around and see an area with like 50 bloodstains and 5 messages saying "Strong Enemy Ahead" so I jump down to see what's up and get invaded by Mad Tongue. I learn the Respectful Bow gesture and then he kills me in basically one hit. I had 2000 souls on me (which I know is not a lot in the grand scheme of things, but it's the principle) so I went back to see if I could get them and get out without fighting him, but it was impossible. Instead I found out that he has really low poise, and I was able to get him down to like 1/3rds health with a few heavy attacks. So then I get stubborn and ended up fighting him about 40 more times for the next hour, and finally finally beat him and got basically fuck all for my trouble, but I got my 2k souls back from that bastard! Also I got a Holy sword that requires 30 faith, whomp whomp.

After that, I went back to the starting area and explored two caves north of the church. The first one just had a group of wolves and some barbarian looking boss that was super easy. I just face tanked him because I'm a noob and that was good enough. The second cave had a bit more too it, and it also had these goblins that were little bastards. I died a couple of times in there, but I also finally figured out that I should be using Unsheathe because it does a butt-ton of damage. I fought some kind of giant dog...statue...zombie thing that breathed fire. He killed me once, but then I went back and Unsheathed on his ass and he went down quick.

Next, I went down and explored the western coast and fought a troll. I tried to fight him on foot once and it didn't go well, but on horseback he was pretty easy to maneuver around and take out. I fought some gross tentacle monsters and killed the invisible swordsman. I found a gust of air that you can jump into and accidentally yeeted myself into the ocean.

At this point I was ready to wrap it up for the night, but I thought "maybe I'll try to fight Tree Sentinel again, I'm Lv. 18 now, it's probably doable". Narrator: It was not doable (for me). Tree Sentinel has hands.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nuitangg on March 01, 2022, 12:27:12 PM
Beat Tree Sentinel with about 60 arrows on a platform.
I'm never beating this game.

:goldberg
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: thetylerrob on March 01, 2022, 12:49:34 PM
Also I got a Holy sword that requires 30 faith, whomp whomp.

Ackshually you got a holy light saber wrist blade that you can duel wield. Dis game is sick.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 01, 2022, 01:38:37 PM
Beat Tree Sentinel with about 60 arrows on a platform.
I'm never beating this game.

:goldberg

Mom will give you hugs when the game gets too hard.   :uguu

spoiler (click to show/hide)
For 5% of your Max HP. Worth tho.
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Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 01, 2022, 02:52:21 PM
https://twitter.com/Trolli_USA/status/1498742375652470787

Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: The Sceneman on March 01, 2022, 06:22:42 PM
If you wanna see a streamer who's never played a Souls game before fumble with the game for 7 hrs check out docs stream (he didnt like it lmao)

https://youtu.be/-dJa9ilV5CE

Why the fuck would anyone want to watch a "streamer" who is shit at the game. I can see myself being shit on my TV screen
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Kestastrophe on March 01, 2022, 06:58:27 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/PHZRiXg_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: The Sceneman on March 01, 2022, 07:16:01 PM
Yeah, Ive just been wandering around getting clobbered by big badasses and soldiers on ballista turrets. I did manage to clear a couple of mini-dungeons. I somehow missed the smithing table at the church :goldberg
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 01, 2022, 09:02:41 PM
Cheesed Margit with skeleton militia summons  :fbm
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: The Sceneman on March 01, 2022, 10:51:23 PM
Timestamped for 1:18:41

https://youtu.be/BKYjtii9er0?t=4721

Amaaaaaaazing intro really. I didnt expect him to try the game again, and especially not that amazing intro. Worth to be watched (only is around 30seconds)

Okay I decided to bite. That shit was lame as hell and I still don't understand how and why a "streamer" is a thing
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Mostima on March 02, 2022, 12:16:59 AM
Holy shit this game is long, I'm 65 hours in and I'm still not done. And the most amazing part is nothing has felt stretched out or too drawn out. Boss-wise this does feel easier than previous Soulsborne/Sekiro games though, there's only 2 bosses I've felt really stuck on for at the entrance and the end of Leyndall, but that's partially because I was too under-leveled. You don't really feel stuck since you can always go somewhere else, you're more likely to be over-leveled for areas than under-leveled with how many places there are to visit.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: MMaRsu on March 02, 2022, 02:18:52 AM
If you wanna see a streamer who's never played a Souls game before fumble with the game for 7 hrs check out docs stream (he didnt like it lmao)

https://youtu.be/-dJa9ilV5CE

Why the fuck would anyone want to watch a "streamer" who is shit at the game. I can see myself being shit on my TV screen

Jesus christ I just wanted to share that custom intro they made lmao
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: The Sceneman on March 02, 2022, 04:16:01 AM
Sorry I'm just feeling quite angry at the world today lol.

I'm glad this fellow is enjoying the game now
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: bork on March 02, 2022, 07:55:24 AM
I'm still being crazy and was playing several different classes to see which one to stick with.  Definitely dropping Hero and most likely will stop Samurai in favor of Prisoner.  Watched some stuff on magic users and it looks really, really appealing.

With the Prisoner, I went and got the meteor staff, meteor spell, and traveler's gear via the treasure chest "trap" in the game's beginning area that warps you all the way to the right side of the map, then followed a guide that has you run through the map and grab a bunch of stuff that nets you 10,000+ runes, five +2 potions, the mixed flask, and a weapon that is +4 or +5 all after about 10-15 minutes.  This let me level up to get intelligence at 18 and use the staff.  I then went to Fort Haight and cleared it out to get the bloody slash, so now I have a crazy strong spell and a super powerful melee weapon.  Going to get the carian slicer spell next.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Coax on March 02, 2022, 08:10:31 AM
With the Bandit... followed a guide that has you run through the map and grab a bunch of stuff that nets you 10,000+ runes, five +2 potions, the mixed flask, and a weapon that is +4 or +5 all after about 10-15 minutes.

Link?
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: bork on March 02, 2022, 09:19:02 AM
With the Bandit... followed a guide that has you run through the map and grab a bunch of stuff that nets you 10,000+ runes, five +2 potions, the mixed flask, and a weapon that is +4 or +5 all after about 10-15 minutes.

Link?

Sorry, meant Prisoner class if that changes anything.

Follow this guide if you want to get the stuff I mentioned pretty quickly.  Can be done as early as after you get your horse.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx9IsK8qhg4
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Follow this guide to get the meteor staff.  The video doesn't cover it, but in the same place where you get the staff, you'll find gear and a stairwell leading downstairs to get the spell.  It's all located in the ruined brick areas.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7Wd7zKDbLs
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For the bloody slash.  Fort Haight is on the southeast area of the map from the starting location.  Just google to find it.  There's a site of grace to the right of it so no worries if you die attempting it.  If you follow that starter "OP" video and do the optional "quest" to level up your spirit helpers, you'll destroy it with ease.  I barely had to even fight the knight at the top of the fort because the summoned wolves were just wrecking him.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: bork on March 02, 2022, 09:24:18 AM
OK, yeah- sticking with prisoner.  I had to fight one of those pumpkin heads in a small room and the meteorite magic doesn't do much to him...but the bloody slash sure as hell did.  :pimp
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 02, 2022, 09:43:59 AM
Elden Rings Diary Entry #2: Head Empty, Just Explore

I played for another 3 1/2 hours last night. I didn't fight any bosses or do any quests or anything, I just explored the whole time. I talked to some ponce that wanted me to liberate his fort that had been taken over by bandits and went to do it, but then I got distracted by GIANT MURDER BEARS that can run down your horse. I took a few L's in the murder bear forest, ngl.

Eventually, I made my way to a well that had an elevator in it that took me down to an underground river. This was a cool area, and even though I felt underleveled for it because even the basic grunts were taking like 15 dmg per hit, I wanted to check it out anyway. The enemies were fairly unthreatening, so I took my time and looted a bunch of high tier smiting items (which I can't even use yet) and mushrooms. So many mushrooms.

Quote
(https://i.imgur.com/FQE1j3D.png)

I found an area where I needed to light 8 Obelisks to open something, but there were a ton of butthole ghost archers in the area and I figured it was just going to make me fight a hard-ass boss if I did it anyway, so I just noped out of there for now and ended up in a poison swamp. I derped around in the poison swamp for a while, got chased by more murder bears, found some fancy lad wanderer's full armor set, and I wore that a bit for variety.

Total Time Played: ~7.5 hours
Current Character: Lv. 18 Samurai
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: bork on March 02, 2022, 10:38:33 AM
The carian slicer is a magic sword that doesn't use much FP and does insane damage.  Holy shit- I love magic in this game. :lol
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on March 02, 2022, 11:39:28 AM
Won't have a chance to get back to this till friday.  :fbm 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: bork on March 02, 2022, 11:39:52 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/SuperLouis_64/status/1498158662082347009
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: bork on March 02, 2022, 11:41:04 AM
Won't have a chance to get back to this till friday.  :fbm

Try remote play at your desk?
:rollsafe
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Polident Hive on March 02, 2022, 08:06:32 PM
Tempted to watch these guide videos to mitigate the early game. It's been chill so far, about two hours in. Went with vanguard and it's familiar if a touch boring. As I'm reading up on classes, feeling like samurai would've been the choice for me. It'll balance out soon enough.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: MMaRsu on March 02, 2022, 08:42:29 PM
Lmao DrDisrespect didnt give up and got so good at the game he beat Godrick on his first try lmao
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 02, 2022, 08:46:13 PM
Beat Ulcerated Tree Spirit on the first try

... O shit this Fingerfolks dungeon has a bunch of secret paths where you drop from the thin bridge part
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 03, 2022, 09:40:41 AM
Elden Rings Diary Entry #3: Do the Main Quest Line 2022 Challenge (Impossible)

Another exploration heavy day. I made my way down to the Weeping Peninsula. I found a Minor Erdtree and killed an Erdtree Avatar. I also found the Tower of Return (gonna spoiler this just because it was unexpected and cool)

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At the top of the tower is a chest with a teleporter trap that takes you to the capital city. There's a site of grace and a giant you can fight, but not much else in the area. Still, pretty cool view.
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I went down toward the southern tip of the peninsula and talked to a lady that said her father's castle had been swarmed and she asked me to take a letter to her father. I went and checked out the castle, but I didn't feel like trying to do it yet, so I teleported back to Limgrave. I wanted to upgrade my Uchigatana and my brother told me I should go to a mine for crafting mats, and showed me what undiscovered mines looked like on the map, so I found and entered the Limgrave Tunnels. The rock bois were strong against my Uchigatana, but even they couldn't stand up to a nice two-handed slash.  I made my way through most of the mine (although I probably missed a secret area or two on the elevators) and fought the Cavedigger Troll. The first time I got to him I had no flasks, panicked and I got flattened, but on my second attempt, I just Unshealthed on him a few times and knocked him down, then finished him off without even needing the heals. *flex*

After that I had enough smithing stones to do some upgrades, so I went back to the Stronghold and upgraded Uchigatana from +2 to +4. *double flex* I also went down to the basement and spent 3 Stonesword Keys to get a unique crossbow and the Assassin's Prayerbook. Kinda feels like a waste of keys since I'm not really doing much ranged fighting and I don't even have enough faith to use any of the assassin abilities yet, but maybe I'll try out the crossbow.

Total Time Played: ~10.5 hours
Current Character: Lv. 23 Samurai
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: mormapope on March 03, 2022, 01:04:34 PM
About 20 hours in, beat Margit and Godrick. Been using melee only, no casting, using great weapons or colossal weapons. 40 points into strength.

Main goal is to get enough smithing stones to make my zweihander +10. At +5 it does great damage and stuns most enemies or bosses with a charge attack, but I want big dick damage.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 03, 2022, 01:21:10 PM
I've been going no magic too for the most part other than bell summons and my sword has a magic attack (curved great sword from the crawly dude in the crater surrounded by stone worms)
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: mormapope on March 03, 2022, 02:03:05 PM
I didn't know this for a while, but equipping a new ash of war art on your weapon is how you enchant a weapon I believe. Enchanted my Zweihander with Heavy, making all damage scaling strength based.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: chronovore on March 03, 2022, 08:17:43 PM
http://twitter.com/alfonso_thesix/status/1499544900064268288`
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Polident Hive on March 03, 2022, 08:51:49 PM
Gonna jinx myself and say this has been quite a lot easier than past souls games, if for one reason alone: summoning a hoard of ghost friends.

The catharsis of watching my five ghost dudes not giving this boss time to breath. Locking him in the corner. Finally, the boot is on the other foot.   :rejoice
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on March 03, 2022, 09:27:59 PM
I really like that I can heal my summons with the big AoE spell the Prophet class starts with.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Mostima on March 03, 2022, 11:50:18 PM
Lvl 141, 73 hours in. Just have the final boss and 1 optional boss left.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://i.imgur.com/nGCttH9.png)
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Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Uncle on March 04, 2022, 07:49:29 AM
https://twitter.com/DistantValhalla/status/1499413058388639751
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Mostima on March 04, 2022, 09:00:26 AM
Okay, this one end-game optional boss is actually bullshit, it has this one crazy long combo attack that literally nobody has been able to actually dodge from what I've seen online, it's especially bad because they can lifesteal off these attacks even if you block it. Everybody either goes for a super-heavy greatshield, or goes for a super aggressive katana bleed build and hope to get lucky with chaining staggers and bleed procs. This is way harder than anything in DaS 1-3.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: MMaRsu on March 04, 2022, 09:14:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-dNrVNdsFs
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 04, 2022, 10:10:22 AM
I just massacred a bunch of tortoises in what looked to be a sanctuary
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: MMaRsu on March 04, 2022, 10:57:45 AM
Man you out here killing dogs man u meanie
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: bork on March 04, 2022, 11:32:42 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/1499504132058660867
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: MMaRsu on March 04, 2022, 11:56:49 AM
That was pretty amazing
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 04, 2022, 12:18:12 PM
 Elden Ring Diary Entry #4: Stormveil Castle (Part 1)

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I heard people say that Bloody Slash is OP, so I decided to do the Castle Haight quest to get it. Took down the castle fairly easily and added Bloody Slash to my Uchigatana +4. It actually lowered my raw stats because it makes your scaling worse, but the increased bleed + the special attack seem worth it. Sometimes against harder enemies, it feels like you're only doing chip damage, and then all of sudden they just explode like at the end of Sanjuro.  :lol

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Now that I had Bloody Slash, I decided to finally head towards Stormveil Castle and the first main boss, Margit. With the help of Tim the Sorcerer and my wolf bois running distraction, I was able to get in there with Bloody Slash and tear his shit all up fairly easily. By that I mean that I only died three times. I see this as an absolute win. We are now officially back on the critical path for the first time since 15 minutes after I started the game, woo!

I followed the advice of the weirdo inside and avoided the main entrance of the castle and started making my way along the ramparts. There was a lot of birds and ranged bois out, so I decided to make use of Crepus's Black-Key Crossbow that I picked up in the Roundtable Hold to snipe these guys. But first I went back to the hold and used some of my Somber Smithing Stones to get to +3, and then I crafted a bunch of bleed bolts, and now we're cooking. Took out all the birds and the firebomb throwers and got inside of the rear of the castle. Fought a big knight, died many times to him, finally killed him and got the key to go deeper.

After that I died to another big knight, and I decided to call it night. Today, the assault on Stormveil Castle continues.

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Total Time Played: ~14 hours
Current Character: Lv. 28 Samurai
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 04, 2022, 01:05:42 PM
Where the bird-bombers are there is a secret place where you drop off the outer wall.  There is a knight down there that keeps fucking my shit up.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Polident Hive on March 04, 2022, 02:00:05 PM
Gonna jinx myself and say this has been quite a lot easier than past souls games, if for one reason alone: summoning a hoard of ghost friends.

The catharsis of watching my five ghost dudes not giving this boss time to breath. Locking him in the corner. Finally, the boot is on the other foot.   :rejoice

Jinxed myself. A tree one shotted me and my boys.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Akala on March 04, 2022, 06:44:11 PM
Where the bird-bombers are there is a secret place where you drop off the outer wall.  There is a knight down there that keeps fucking my shit up.

You can bypass the knight there is another path...
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 04, 2022, 07:23:15 PM
It's optional anyway but I want to murder him -- I'm talking about the guy that gets golden angel wings and a golden scorpion tail when you take him down to half health. 

found a video of the dude

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_teaNCKLVg
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Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Mostima on March 05, 2022, 09:10:57 AM
Just finished the game, summoning ashes makes things pretty easy if you got a good summon, with the exception of one bonus boss. If you guys are still deciding on what weapons to upgrade, go for a weapon with decent range and speed with bleed, like a katana. Heavy weapons suck as somebody who went through 90% of the game using one.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on March 05, 2022, 10:12:21 AM
After a 6 day hiatus, had a good sesh last night.  Took a minute to warm up to it again, but finished lighting up those obelisks.. tried that boss, but it was mauling me in 2 hits and my bloody slash was barely doing any damage to it.  Will try it again later. 

Moved on and did some runs and found the inner circle place, upgraded my sword and flasks and decided to try Margit.  He took a few tries, but finally got past him.  I keep forgetting how essential the jump attack is. Lol Started up the castle and stopped after getting that key from that knight in the dark room..... Who killed me more than Margit did for some reason.. then I finally kill him without getting touched.   ::) Can't wait to continue on tonight!
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: benjipwns on March 05, 2022, 11:06:15 AM
https://twitter.com/kchironis/status/1499861022307356672
https://twitter.com/kchironis/status/1499862010967650304
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 05, 2022, 05:50:38 PM
Elden Ring Diary Entry #5: Intermission

Instead of going back to Stormveil Castle, I just farted around a bit more instead.

I killed the Tree Sentinel. I went to the lake and killed Agheel the Dragon, and offered his heart to the Church of Dragon Communion in exchange for spells I can't even begin to cast. I met the Wolfman in the Mistwoods and killed the Bloodhound Gang for him. I found the cave that had Patches in it, I don't really know who that is, but people online seem to like him so I didn't kill him. I used his trapped chest though and got teleported somewhere I'd already been like a million times, so it was really nbd. I went back to Castle Morne and killed the Leonine Misbegotten. I tried to fight the Ball Bearing Hunter at the Warmaster's Shack, but I got bodied about 20 times, rip. I'll try that one again later. I got Rodricka to set up shop in the Roundtable Hold and upgraded my Jellyfish and my Wolves, and also had enough smithing materials to get my Uchigatana to +5.

I was going back to Stormveil but I noticed there was a little passage around the back of it near Stormhill Shack, so I went to check that out and found a side passage into the Liurnia of the Lakes and I ended up roaming around in there for several hours.

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I made it all the way to the Academy, but the door was locked so I had to turn back and check out the eastern part of the region. I found Jarburg, where all the pot people live. What a friendly place, I got tons of pots and flowers. :)

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I made it deep into the northeast of the area, and ran into the Black Knife Catacombs. I think I'll save that spot for later, and just go back and hang out with the Turtle Pope for a bit.

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Total Time Played: ~19 hours
Current Character: Lv. 34 Samurai
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on March 06, 2022, 04:09:19 AM
Can't believe I played for 4 hours and all that time was in Stormveil Castle.   :titus Upgraded to a greatsword +4.  Will try it later on, hopefully take out the knights quicker.  Just realized today I had 2 pendent/amulet slots that had nothing equipped.  ::)
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on March 06, 2022, 02:49:55 PM
Can't believe I played for 4 hours and all that time was in Stormveil Castle.   :titus Upgraded to a greatsword +4.  Will try it later on, hopefully take out the knights quicker.  Just realized today I had 2 pendent/amulet slots that had nothing equipped.  ::)

Is this just to get to the end or a return exploration? Man there's sp many little paths and shit in that castle. I rushed through it at first heh but have since been back and done it proper. Stilm some items I haven't found access to. probably spent over 5 hrs mucking around in there.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on March 06, 2022, 04:39:48 PM
Can't believe I played for 4 hours and all that time was in Stormveil Castle.   :titus Upgraded to a greatsword +4.  Will try it later on, hopefully take out the knights quicker.  Just realized today I had 2 pendent/amulet slots that had nothing equipped.  ::)

Is this just to get to the end or a return exploration? Man there's sp many little paths and shit in that castle. I rushed through it at first heh but have since been back and done it proper. Stilm some items I haven't found access to. probably spent over 5 hrs mucking around in there.
Just exploring after Margit.  I do love taking my time through these DS style structures and walking shield up around every corner though.  But found what looks to be the exit to the north, but also looks like the back side of the front gate.. But then found some hidden side entrance too and ventured around there some before heading back in.  Also found a room where some tarnished mage was selling some dope ashes of war.  Will be revisiting him for sure.  There's a branch in the castle though where I'm struggling some.  There's a knight with a halberd, but there's some brute red headed sword guy hidden around the corner that agro's too.  Trying to lure them one at a time up a ladder so I can keep knocking them off . Sometimes they fall, sometimes they don't.  Otherwise yeah, this first castle is so damn fun... It's like a phat slice of DS dropped seamlessly into a massive open world.  It's Brilliant. :delicious
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: MMaRsu on March 06, 2022, 04:41:14 PM
The entire game is basically dark souls x100
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 06, 2022, 06:46:41 PM
So the secret knight inside Stormview castle that I can't beat is the Crucible Knight.  Just found his other location -- also can't beat there lol

Also finally got to Godrick.  Think I have cleaned out most of the starting area though.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on March 07, 2022, 07:44:25 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNMGWuKWUAQITm-?format=jpg)

If Ubisoft made Elden Ring
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 07, 2022, 09:40:19 AM
Elden Ring Diary Entry #6: Stormveil Castle (Part 2)

I returned to the castle to clear the second half and topple Goddrick.

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Spent a lot of time exploring for secret areas. I found the Crucible Knight that Madrun Badrun was talking about and easily defeated him.

Totally Legit Strategy Inside(Not Cheese!)
After dying 7 or 8 times, I lured him back to the elevator room to see if I could use the elevator shaft to keep some distance from him to engage him better, but instead he just runs directly into the shaft and dies. :lol
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Made it to Goddrick, and and my man was looking pretty eff'd up. That cutscene in the middle of the fight, holy crap bro, you good?? :lol With the help of my Barbarian Queen waifu and my Jelly friend, I was able to dispatch him without too much trouble. With Goddrick dispatched, I could now officially enter Liurnia of the Lakes through the front gates. Before moving on, I gave grapes to a new waifu, and headed north.

I spent a while just checking out the area, clearing out some enemy encampments, finding sites of grace, nothing major. I traveled as far north as I could go, up to the Great Lift, but there was nothing I could do there at the moment without "precious item". I talked to an old crone, however, that implied that there was another way to the top of the lift, a "coward's path, into the water and through the dark caverns". Hmmmm.....I do love a good coward's path.

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At this point, I decided to make upgrading my Uchigatana my current priority. I'd been stuck on +5 for a long time, and to get to +6 I needed a bunch of Smithing Stones(2), but if I could just get over that hump, I had a bunch of Smithing Stones(3) already to get several more levels. I consulted a wiki and it seems liked the Raya Lucaria Crytal Tunnels were my best option, having a bunch of SS(2) drops, plus a boss that dropped a Bell Bearing that gets the Twins to sell me more stones. I found the cave and explored the entrance, but my Uchigatana wasn't going to cut it here (pun intended) against these rock bois. I decided to go Flail and started smashing my way through them with the greatest of ease, however the mages were still giving me grief because there were so many of them, and I was taking so much damage while rushing into to melee them. Arrows were worthless too, but then I though, what about pots? I'd never really crafted any of the pot-based weapons, but I checked my crafting tab and I had enough mats to craft like 60 Fire Pots plus I had 6 cracked pots to hold them in, so I was like what the heck, let's try this. Well, the pots turned out to be super useful against the mage enemies. One pot took down the easier ones and two could take down the tougher ones, and I could hit them from far enough away that they weren't aggroed yet. I used about 20 pots, but I easily crushed the rest of the mines. The boss at the end was strong against fire damage, but very weak to strikes, and put up little resistance to my flail.

With that, it was back to the Roundtable Hold to cash in my Bell Bearing and immediately upgrade my Uchigatana all the way to +10. Making those gains, soon I'm gonna be drowning in maidens. Picture of my stat screen if anyone wants to see my probably very suboptimal build cuz I don't really know what I'm doing.

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Not really sure where to go next from here. I guess I'll just keep looking around Liurnia and seeing what else there is to see, or maybe I'll go see what's up over in Caelid, where everything looks terrible and bad.

Total Time Played: ~24 hours
Current Character: Lv. 38 Samurai
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: mormapope on March 07, 2022, 10:03:41 AM
I gave up on my pure strength build. I could do great damage in bursts,but most enemies are too quick and don't follow typical Souls AI patterns.

Gonna try arcane/dex for my next character.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on March 07, 2022, 10:55:19 AM
Loving my greatsword with it's jump attack, but it's counter attack is slower and leaves me open to certain faster enemies.  :-\

Cleared a good portion of Stormveil that I could at least currently access.  Fell down a large pit with that giant squid/cluthu looking floor.. while I was dying from the fall, swung the camera around quick enough to see some water area with something enormous that agro's and started to rise from that water, but the screen faded.  Only place to go at the castle that I can access, is the gold fog boss.  Will tackle that after I do some more exploring though.  Still have most the smoldering church area to explore and then some.  Wiped the floor with that ferry boat ghost and that npc invader. Gonna head to that next erd tree there.

Been using the wolves, but have the jellyfish and skeleton crew ones as well.  Need to experiment with them.  Any suggestions on which of those 3 are the better assists?
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 07, 2022, 11:01:05 AM
The ones you get from the ferry boat ghost are really good cause they regenerate unless the enemy finishes them off while they are downed. 

Also, beat the Crucible Knight in the castle finally and I faced him face to face like a man and didn't trick him down a well like I'm some kind of Patches mofo.  The version in the evergoal is harder though I think but you get more room to fight.  Also also I killed the creepy merchant and got all the ruins he had stolen from me when I died in the castle back.   
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: chronovore on March 07, 2022, 08:33:37 PM
http://twitter.com/SuperBentendo/status/1500986830614900739
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: paprikastaude on March 07, 2022, 09:47:44 PM
great game you got there miyazaki :gurl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnQ3-oSwlkY

spoiler (click to show/hide)
actually pretty polished overall on PS4, but maybe a little less than their smaller games
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Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 07, 2022, 10:36:00 PM
Beat Godrick on the second try -- though I used barbarian girl.  Cleared the rest of the castle, except a few rooftop places I think.  That right-hand side with all the ballistas was a nightmare. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Polident Hive on March 07, 2022, 10:55:24 PM
This open world nails that thing where you tell yourself youíll commit to doing the next main quest. Twenty seconds later you spot a glowing item to the left. Four hours later youíre still exploring this marsh and battling a giant bird boss emerging from the sky. Itís been eight hours, you took an elevator down into a subterranean hell site filled with magic mummies and giant ants.

I gave up on my pure strength build. I could do great damage in bursts,but most enemies are too quick and don't follow typical Souls AI patterns.

Gonna try arcane/dex for my next character.

Heard you could respec eventually. I pumped a ton in strength to use this big sword, and agreed, mistake.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Supermanisdead on March 07, 2022, 11:53:00 PM
this game is 10/10  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* i have a cool katana

https://streamable.com/s73upa
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: paprikastaude on March 08, 2022, 01:11:09 AM
I've had quite a few invisible enemies and I'm not sure if it's glitched or intended  :doge
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on March 08, 2022, 01:13:42 AM
this game is 10/10  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* i have a cool katana

https://streamable.com/s73upa

incredible weapon. I'm maining moonveil in the late game. the special R2 slash deals even mroe damage, staggers and ranges enemies. broken
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Polident Hive on March 08, 2022, 01:27:47 AM
this game is 10/10  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* i have a cool katana

https://streamable.com/s73upa

Been using a regular katana (+10) since I found it. Gotta find that one ASAP.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 08, 2022, 09:33:17 AM
Elden Ring Diary Entry #7: Dragon Slayer

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I was kinda at a loss for were to go next after beating Godrick. The Academy seemed like the most obvious next destination, but I'd already been there and the gates were locked until I found a Glintstone Key. So I just explored the marshland around Liurnia, hoping to find a sign. I found the Village of the Albinaurics, and fought a guy there and also found a guy that was disguised as a pot. He gave me half of a medallion to activate one of the Great Lifts, but unfortunately it was a different half from the one already had. I explored a cave underneath the Academy and also found the Glintstone Dragon nearby that I couldn't quite beat at the moment, so I moved on to the northern part of the region.

Up near the Bellum Highway and to the west, I found a mine into the mountains and followed that through a series of elevators and ramparts along the face of the cliffs. There were a lot of harpies up there, including the larger, singing ones that poison you. I started running low on crossbow bolts, which made it a tricky climb, but finally I made it to the top of the cliff and the lair of the Flame Wyrm Makar. There was an NPC summon marker there, so I brought him and we went ham on Makar and took him out after just three tries. Beyond was a site of grace and the entrance into the Atlas Plateau. This was the so-called "coward's path" that bypassed the Great Lift of Dectus. Almost immediately after reaching the top, I got attacked by another dragon, but I just booked it past him and into some nearby ruins to regroup.

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I was telling my brother that before I fought this dragon, I fought another dragon down near the Academy, and he was like "oh yeah, that's where you get the Glintstone Key, it's right behind him" and I'm like whaaaaat, no way! I fought him like 10 times earlier and I was running all over that area and didn't see anything. So I fast traveled back and sure enough, right behind the dragon was a few bits of loot, including the key. I now had access to the Academy, but first I fast-traveled by to the Roundtable Hold because I'd gotten a lot of smithing stones in the cave on the way to Makar and I wanted to upgrade my Uchigatana some more. When I entered the hold, my character was glowing red and everything looked dark, then all of sudden an NPC starts attacking me! I kicked his ass and then everything went back to normal. I looked around some, and I found that the Edgelord was gone and all his armor was laying on the ground, and then I realized that he was the one that attacked me. I talked to the head guy about it and he said that Edgelord had "gotten ahead of himself" but that "the matter was resolved". The hell does that mean? Whatever. Uchigatana +12 and Skeleton Armor, let's effing go!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh, and I went back and finally killed that stupid Glintstone Dragon too.

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Total Time Played: ~28 hours
Current Character: Lv. 43 Samurai
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: mormapope on March 08, 2022, 02:54:48 PM
Decided to try another run as a strength character. Gonna keep my arcane dude as a side piece.

I can't stop my thirst for hitting shit, I don't have the temperament to play more patiently.
 :smug
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 08, 2022, 02:59:24 PM
The feel of steel on bone. :rejoice
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nuitangg on March 08, 2022, 04:07:11 PM
I'm sure my opinion may change and I'm not even close to finishing the main story but this is best game ever.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: mormapope on March 08, 2022, 04:20:29 PM
The setting alone is cool as fuck. This is basically Japanese Skyrim, if Skyrim had great gameplay/combat.

Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 08, 2022, 09:29:41 PM
Spent 10 minutes trying to hunt pygmies gremlins from horseback before realizing it's easier to just come down to their level.  Little jerks. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 08, 2022, 09:40:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCu8PBoj-Ks

Easy Mode unlocked.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Polident Hive on March 09, 2022, 12:58:03 AM
Cannot wait I unlock respec and go dex and int. Magic looks fun and strength doesn't fit my play style here. I'm managing with a katana and my guy page ashes, but it's beginning to pick up. Two bosses I marked for return to. Could not hang with them at all.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on March 09, 2022, 08:29:53 AM
https://twitter.com/IronPineapple_/status/1501218111235796997
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: bork on March 09, 2022, 11:31:28 AM
https://youtu.be/D4F4eNvDIzo
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nuitangg on March 09, 2022, 02:43:46 PM
Fallingstar Beast wtf  :lol
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 09, 2022, 10:46:39 PM
Beat the Moose boss on the first try and ventured into blighted land. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Polident Hive on March 10, 2022, 06:03:38 AM
Finally, after nearly thirty hours, I went to stormveil castle. Amazing how it's that Demon's or Dark Souls loction feeling inside this open world. Spent a couple hours moving through and exploring it.

Felt good to be overpowered for once. Saw how stealth and ranged attacks would've been clutch- if I couldn't kill everything in two hits max.

The bosses? Margit and Godrick in one go. Embarassing for them.

:pitbull
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on March 10, 2022, 08:32:08 AM
Beat the Moose boss on the first try and ventured into blighted land.
That thing wrecked me when first attempted, but it was before I even attempted stormveil, so I was definitely under leveled.  Is that blighted land the stone key elevator at the end of that area I presume?
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 10, 2022, 09:30:55 AM
Ya that area.   
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 10, 2022, 09:39:43 AM
Elden Ring Diary Entry #8: Academia

Before hitting up the academy, I went and did a little sidequesting in Caelid. The Gael Tunnel had been on my radar for a while, so I knocked that one out real quick, killing the Magma Wyrm and getting the Moonveil katana. I had looked up sweet katana locations on the wiki, and saw that the Meteorite Ore Katana was in a location not too far away, so I went and snagged that too. I'm not really specced to use either one right now, since they require Faith or Arcane, but maybe I'll respecc. Maybe not, who knows? I just wanted them because I'm an absolute loot gobliln. After that, I just ran around a bit in Caelid, looking for content. I found Sellia, City of Sorcery and lit the bonfires there, took out the two little weakass minibosses and completely by chance picked up the Spelldrake Talisman +1 (reduces magic damage taken), which seems like it'd be good to have for the academy. I also met Captain O'Neill chilling out in the swamp, but he was a little tankier than what I wanted to deal with at the moment, so I made a note to return later.

Back at the academy, it was time to stuff these nerds into their lockers. It's a lot smaller location than Stormveil Castle, but it was still really cool. I liked the cemetery area with the grabby skeletons and the giant lift you had to ride up. I advanced through the level fairly quickly, there were only a few annoying chokepoints, where groups of mages would hide at the top of stairways and spam their spells at you until you lured them down where you could take them out without getting pelted by magic. I spanked the wolf boi and then made it up to Rennala's tower. This fight seemed a little intimidating at first. Phase 1 I got all these creepy kids throwing books at me, and chandeliers falling on my head and OHKOing me. But then once I calmed down and figured out the trick to the first phase it was actually really easy. Phase 2 is when the actual fight starts, but with my Uchigatana +12 I was outputting massive damage, so I just needed to stay calm and avoid her magic barrages, and then Bloody Slash her a new but hole.

Quote
(https://i.imgur.com/l8X326K.png)

And now she's dead...oh wait, she's not dead. Also the fight doesn't really give you anything important to the main quest, so I guess this whole area was all rather optional, huh? Oh well, I beat up a mentally unstable woman who will now let me respecc my character, and that's what truly matters. Also D is dead now, LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! I can even wear his armor (as long as I equip the talisman that boosts load max and equip a lighter shield  :doge ). I'm wearing it now with this goofy-ass crown I got for killing a crab.

Total Time Played: ~34 hours
Current Character: Lv. 52 Samurai
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 10, 2022, 12:21:29 PM
The beast eye quivers, btw.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nuitangg on March 10, 2022, 12:57:21 PM
Other than logging into Halo to buy the cat ears  :goldberg  its been all Elden Ring.  I haven't been this obsessed with a game in quite some time.  I'm terrible, over leveled and I cheese most boss fights.  I dont care. It's so much fun.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 10, 2022, 11:19:47 PM
Crucible knights are my Carol Baskins  :rage
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Supermanisdead on March 11, 2022, 12:15:14 AM
radahn holy shitttttttttt that was the most intense moment in a game ever. i am shakinggg.

but i beat it  :-*
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 11, 2022, 04:50:08 PM
So I haven't been upgrading my weapons but I guess stones are not super rare?  So I should just be upping shit.  Is this also true of the ghost flowers for the spirits?  Also, I found a faster version of the ziewhander that I kinda like.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: The Sceneman on March 11, 2022, 05:03:28 PM
Found the Leonine boss and fought him like 20 times until he fell. Was very tough at level 21 lol

I'm doing a DEX/INT guy and really need some better gear right now. I've done some research and there's a few items to scoop up nearby. Still pretty early on and wandering around the Weeping Peninsula finding sweet upgrades. Awesome game
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: The Sceneman on March 11, 2022, 05:05:25 PM
So I haven't been upgrading my weapons but I guess stones are not super rare?  So I should just be upping shit.  Is this also true of the ghost flowers for the spirits?  Also, I found a faster version of the ziewhander that I kinda like.

There are mining areas where you can farm the stones I think. Just upgrade your shit lol
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: paprikastaude on March 11, 2022, 05:52:30 PM
I can finally buy smithing stones  :-[
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on March 11, 2022, 07:03:08 PM
Decided to fuk around in Caelid just to check it out (lvl 24)...

This is some Nightmare of Mensis shit

 :titus

Jesus this game is wild.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: bork on March 11, 2022, 10:25:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtKzLhgaRn0

I need that Sword Of Night And Flame- holy shit!  :lol

Finally went back to Stormveil and fought Godrick.  I guess I must have been over-leveled for this fight- he didn't hit me once and went down on the first attempt.  I used the skeleton army summon and they and the NPC hunter melee'd him while I sat back firing off spells.  There's still an optional knight fight and I found a wyrm(?) in a lower area that I need to go back and fight.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 11, 2022, 10:26:27 PM
There is also a lion boss there if you missed it.  Think the place has 5 bosses. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Lonewulfeus on March 12, 2022, 03:52:51 AM
Elden Ring Diary Entry #8: Academia

Before hitting up the academy, I went and did a little sidequesting in Caelid. The Gael Tunnel had been on my radar for a while, so I knocked that one out real quick, killing the Magma Wyrm and getting the Moonveil katana. I had looked up sweet katana locations on the wiki, and saw that the Meteorite Ore Katana was in a location not too far away, so I went and snagged that too. I'm not really specced to use either one right now, since they require Faith or Arcane, but maybe I'll respecc. Maybe not, who knows? I just wanted them because I'm an absolute loot gobliln. After that, I just ran around a bit in Caelid, looking for content. I found Sellia, City of Sorcery and lit the bonfires there, took out the two little weakass minibosses and completely by chance picked up the Spelldrake Talisman +1 (reduces magic damage taken), which seems like it'd be good to have for the academy. I also met Captain O'Neill chilling out in the swamp, but he was a little tankier than what I wanted to deal with at the moment, so I made a note to return later.

Back at the academy, it was time to stuff these nerds into their lockers. It's a lot smaller location than Stormveil Castle, but it was still really cool. I liked the cemetery area with the grabby skeletons and the giant lift you had to ride up. I advanced through the level fairly quickly, there were only a few annoying chokepoints, where groups of mages would hide at the top of stairways and spam their spells at you until you lured them down where you could take them out without getting pelted by magic. I spanked the wolf boi and then made it up to Rennala's tower. This fight seemed a little intimidating at first. Phase 1 I got all these creepy kids throwing books at me, and chandeliers falling on my head and OHKOing me. But then once I calmed down and figured out the trick to the first phase it was actually really easy. Phase 2 is when the actual fight starts, but with my Uchigatana +12 I was outputting massive damage, so I just needed to stay calm and avoid her magic barrages, and then Bloody Slash her a new but hole.

Quote
(https://i.imgur.com/l8X326K.png)

And now she's dead...oh wait, she's not dead. Also the fight doesn't really give you anything important to the main quest, so I guess this whole area was all rather optional, huh? Oh well, I beat up a mentally unstable woman who will now let me respecc my character, and that's what truly matters. Also D is dead now, LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! I can even wear his armor (as long as I equip the talisman that boosts load max and equip a lighter shield  :doge ). I'm wearing it now with this goofy-ass crown I got for killing a crab.

Total Time Played: ~34 hours
Current Character: Lv. 52 Samurai

That 2nd phase arena was great, absolutely loved fighting there.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 12, 2022, 08:19:02 AM
Got made a clown by an invisible snail. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on March 12, 2022, 12:45:32 PM
Caelid area is some eerie shit.  :mindblown Some of these enemy designs are unlike anything else.  I'm sure I've yet to see anything this game has.   

Slow burn for me.. Not focusing on a particular build and just level out certain specs.. feels like it makes my progression slower, but that's how I roll I guess.

Having second thoughts on my greatsword.. just too slow for certain enemies.  May scale back to my short sword.  Would equip boffum, but still low on endurance and fat roll.  I need to find some glovewort too. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 12, 2022, 10:14:55 PM
The
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Misbegotten Warrior and Crucible Knight
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fight is so hard.  And I can get the first guy dead generally before the second shows up :(
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: benjipwns on March 12, 2022, 11:03:11 PM
https://twitter.com/CDRNonsense/status/1501810601051529220
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Supermanisdead on March 13, 2022, 08:30:03 AM
this comet azur spell is fucking nuts

https://streamable.com/eugwxf
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 13, 2022, 04:59:08 PM
Elden Ring Diary Entry #9: Zanzibart...forgive me

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(https://i.imgur.com/NV4yEx5.png)

With the Academy finished, I headed north to Caria Manor and crashed Thing from the "Addams' Family" family reunion. I hacked my way through the manor and up to Ranni's Rise and met Ranni again, who asked me to join her cause. I also hung out with Blaidd, Iji, and some nerd named Selavus. He wanted me to slip a mickey to Nepheli, but I didn't because that's not cool :ufup and also he seemed like a major creep even before that. Ranni said we need to get to Nokron to do some shit, so I went with Blaidd down to Siofra River to find a way in but he said this wasn't the right place. Ultimately I talked to Sorceress Sellen and she said I had to beat General Rahdan to get to Nokron, so I guess that's the next major thing I gotta do. More sidequesting first, though.

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(https://i.imgur.com/sbM2nnX.png)

While I was down in Siofra River, I decided to finish up that area and fight the Ancestral Spirit. No problems there. I also totally by chance while exploring found the fabled trap chest that everyone's mentioned that teleports you from an early part to the game to the Sellia Crystal Mines in the middle of Caelid. I was high enough level that it was nbd, so I just decided to clear it out while I was in there and beat the Fallingstar Beast.  He was tough because he was highly resistant to my Uchigatana in addition to being fast as fuck and hitting hard. The old reliable technique of summon Jellyfish, get behind them, then Bloody Slash eventually took him down though. I got a bunch of Tier 5 Smithing Stones in that area and was able to upgrade my Uchigatana to +14. I decided what I really wanted to use was the Meteoric Ore Blade (+5) though, so I went to Rennala and respecc'd from DEX/STR to STR/INT. The MOB does about double the damage of the Uchigatana, but my Bleed dropped from 75 to 50. I'm gonna roll it for a while though, it seems pretty strong and doesn't have the downside of being almost useless against enemies that are strong to pierce/slash, since it also does magic damage.

In Caelid, I did a few more side quests. I finished up the Sellia, Town of Sorcery plot line by killing Commander O'Neill and taking the unalloyed golden needle to the old man and letting him repair it, then giving it to Millicent to cure her scarlet rot. I also jumped up the cliff behind the Church of the Plague and killed the immobile dragon that just screams at you, and got 75,000 Runes and 5 Dragon Hearts. It's not much, but it's dishonest work. I also killed the stupid scarlet rot dragon on the road to Redmane Castle, he was a real asshole. His rot breath attack was basically instant death if it ever hit you, so just don't get hit, forehead! I cleared out a couple of more random caves and finally made it to Redmane Castle. 

Total Time Played: ~44 hours
Current Character: Lv. 66 Samurai
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Polident Hive on March 13, 2022, 05:38:45 PM
First time experiencing Commander O'Neill was after escaping that trap crystal centipede hell cave at an early level. Rode around looking for another bongrace. Entered the area and boss life bar appears. Rode up and thwacked him. Life bar didn't go down. Kept on riding.

My map is marked up with skulls to warn me of those open world bosses. Or when I get bold enough to try taking them down. Many, many hours later, parts of Caelid are still overwhelming.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on March 13, 2022, 06:34:31 PM
For some reason, I never noticed the peninsula south of the starting area. :ohhh After struggling through bits and pieces of Caelid, this place is cake.  Feels good to romp through the fort/castle and took down Leonine with ease. 

Went back to my short sword.  The counter attack is just so much better. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 13, 2022, 07:43:49 PM
At 50 hours I'm off dicking around and back on the main quest, so doing the academy now.  I'm halfway through like 3 other forts though. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: chronovore on March 14, 2022, 08:51:25 PM
http://twitter.com/agentbizzle/status/1503457728655618048
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: pilonv1 on March 14, 2022, 09:53:49 PM
Finally got my Steam code from the motherboard I bought last year so I'm getting this now. Haven't played a Souls game since the original and only for about 5-6 hours so cannot wait to ragequit
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 14, 2022, 10:23:45 PM
Game is insane

(https://i.imgur.com/0ChY3Aq.jpeg)

Was fighting a hard knight in the academy who keeps parrying me then took teleport to Pope Turtle.  Also why are there so many blood spots around Pope Turtle?
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nuitangg on March 14, 2022, 11:33:52 PM
I don't want this game to end.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 15, 2022, 11:54:54 AM
Elden Ring Diary Entry #10: Into the Underdark

The General Radahn fight ended up being not very hard at my level. The hardest part of the fight was just getting to him on the battlefield without getting btfo by his arrows. Once I figured out the timing to dodge his arrow attacks, and summoned the homies to help me, he went down pretty fast. I see people saying stuff like "Oh I'm not gonna use the summons, that's cheating" but I'm not above taking whatever help the game gives me.

After defeating Radahn, I rode up north to a fort full of ghosts and vampire bats that will bite your fucking head off if you're not careful. I just ran past the bats because honestly fuck those guys, and climbed to the top of the fort to get the other half of the medallion to operate the Grand Lift of Dectus (even though I had already taken the back path to the Atlas Plateau). Poking around in the fort a little more, I found Radagon's Soreseal, which seems like a pretty freaking badass charm. It gives +5 to most of your stats, in exchange for taking increased damage. The +5 to my Vigor gave me 200 HP more, and the +5 to my Endurance let me wear some heavier armor, so I think the juice is worth the squeeze (not to mention the +5 to STR and DEX boosting my weapon damage). 

On the way to use the Dectus medallion, I took a little side path up this hill and found the freaking Eye of Sauron on top of this tower. Whenever I got close to it, it hit me with madness, and then I got swarmed by rats, so I started looking for side paths. The cliff around this area was pretty sheer except for the main path, but I finally found a little rock outcropping I could jump on and get around behind it. From there I found some rocks to hide behind until I could get close to it, and then climbed up and killed all the weirdos there and shut off the eye. Once it was disabled, I went to the Flame-Frenzied Town, the Church of Inhibitions, and the Converted Fringe Tower and cleaned out all the goodies there. I got another grape while I was there, so I checked a wiki to find the locations of grape lady and gave her all the grapes. She seems nice.

After a quick elevator ride, I did a bit of exploring around the Atlas Plateau. I'd come here earlier through the Magma Wyrm cave, but I just grabbed a site of grace and bailed out without really looking around much. I rode all the way up to the capital entrance and beat two Tree Sentinels. That was a cool "Look how far you've come" moment, haha. I found THE EVER BRILLIANT GOLDMASK! chilling out on a bridge. He seems like a homie. I told Brother Corwym where to find him and then we all chilled out for a bit and pondered the Erdtree. I also rode over to the Mount Gelnir region to see what was up over there for a minute, and then headed back to the Mistwood Forest to find the entrace to Nokron.

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(https://i.imgur.com/imfogNU.png)

Nokron was cool. I got to do some Assassin's Creed shit and parkour around on some rooftops. Had a "Don't trust anyone, not even yourself" moment, fighting Shadow Link. I found the Mimic Ashes which seems pretty badass. I like that it takes HP instead of FP to cast, I've got 11 +5 flasks at this point, so I can easily spare the HP, but I haven't invested much into FP because I just like hitting people with my sword. I found the thing that Ranni wanted from Nokron, and also fought the Regal Ancestral Spirit while I was down there. He was tough, and my Mimic Ashes were kinda crap for that fight because my mimic just kept running through the fire like an idiot. I feel like my mimic knows me too well, smdh.  :'( After a few tries, I managed to hack my way through all his heals and win the fight though.

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(https://i.imgur.com/OEitIKN.png)

Continuing Ranni's questline, I went to the inverted Dracula's Castle, which was a pretty sweet location. I unlocked Renna's Rise and went back into the underworld to do battle with some giant ants. Yo, we EDF now! I finally found some Somber Smithing Stones(7) for fighting some gross-ass centipede thing and upgraded my Meteoric Ore Blade to +7. Feeling badass, might delete later:  :-[  :-*

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(https://i.imgur.com/ee6BGKT.png)

Then I fought some Crucible Knights in Nokron and got knocked back down to Earth. Those bastards can lick my taint.  :maf

Total Time Played: ~52 hours
Current Character: Lv. 74 Samurai
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Raist on March 15, 2022, 07:13:04 PM
this comet azur spell is fucking nuts

https://streamable.com/eugwxf

Magic, FromSoft games' easy mode since 2009.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Polident Hive on March 15, 2022, 08:15:14 PM
Game is insane

(https://i.imgur.com/0ChY3Aq.jpeg)

Was fighting a hard knight in the academy who keeps parrying me then took teleport to Pope Turtle.  Also why are there so many blood spots around Pope Turtle?

Some places are worth visiting at night.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Coax on March 15, 2022, 11:29:02 PM
Picked the game up in the last few days. The Storm Stomp Ashes of War as an opening for attacks is :delicious

I'm able to momentarily stagger or at the least cancel attacks of various high level enemies with it and the effect has almost build-up time to use, so the moment they come in range for an attack I can hit L2 once, get the stomp in, put them off balance for a split second allowing me to lead into a few hits or continue until they're dead.

It's been a key element to winning various mini bosses (ie: non-Demigod ones), the knights from The Shaded Castle and almost any enemy or groups of them that are highly aggressive and up to maybe twice my height.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 16, 2022, 09:41:47 AM
Elden Ring Diary Entry #11: Insomnia

Feel like crap this morning because I stayed up past midnight playing Elden Ring, then I couldn't sleep because I was just thinking about Elden Ring.  :derp

me, rn:
(https://i.imgur.com/PMyrDec.png)

Total Time Played: ~58 hours
Current Character: Lv. 87 Samurai
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: chronovore on March 16, 2022, 09:57:21 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/tfawvu/you_guys_know_the_inspiration_for_this_post/
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 16, 2022, 10:43:37 AM
Man we are at the same playtime and I'm 20 levels below you and just cleared the second big boss.  So much time just messing around on me horse.   
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 16, 2022, 11:09:57 AM
Man we are at the same playtime and I'm 20 levels below you and just cleared the second big boss.  So much time just messing around on me horse.   

It's okay, I see other people posting stuff like "15 hours in, just beat Rennala" and I'm like wtf. :lol The amount of content in this game is amazing. Sometimes I'll return to an area that I thought I already saw everything in and find a bunch of new stuff. On the other hand, sometimes I'll find some fuck-off dungeon and just be like "you know, there's plenty more content out there, I'm not doing this". Like this one I found yesterday that has a lava river and a giant spiked rolling pin and fire-breathing statues, man fuck that place.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: bork on March 16, 2022, 12:09:39 PM
Found a small dungeon filled with skeletons and necromancers.  Got pretty easy to run through and didn't have trouble with the boss, but it turns out that there's another boss in there, hidden behind a wall.  An assassin who is so fast that I can't even power up weapons or do most magic to kill him.  Can't summon helpers either.
:dizzy

Guess I'll try again in another X amount of levels.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on March 16, 2022, 12:27:57 PM
Yeah, I'm like level 41, but only 13-15 hours in and have yet to fight Godrick still.  I currently have an OCD of, if I'm at least halfway to reaching my next level, I just grind it out somewhere to knock it out before I do something stupid and lose it.  :doge  That being said too, I'm horribly well rounded with no focus on any particular trait... Just whatever sounds/feels like what's needed at time of leveling.   (Obviously, I don't build Faith or whatever since I'm mostly brawling) This should change later in the game like other Souls games I've played, but until I finally decide on my go to weapon, only then do I start to narrow down stat builds.

Been trying to play the past 3 nights, but been sleeping like shit lately.  :(
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on March 16, 2022, 12:37:01 PM
Playing this now, I'm still just mainly messing around in the starting area.

Found some caves and killed a wolfbeast man, killed a pumpkin man and killed a cat-like statue thing with a sword in most cases the summons made a big difference.
Started out as a Confessor because I wanted a sword/magic combo. Most exp. still going towards strength and vigor though.

I would say this game is much more accessible than Sekiro because of the baby starting area that allows you to get your bearings and learn the mechanics.
As well as having a 'starter' class with some decent stats and a basic healing spell.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 16, 2022, 03:14:53 PM
Took a long lunch break and played through the Prison Town legacy dungeon and killed Rykard. Cool fight! :rejoice

Also my Mimic Tear Ashes are maxed out now and it's better at the game than I am.  :-\
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nuitangg on March 16, 2022, 03:45:50 PM
My mimic tear cheeses the game better than I ever could.  :lol  I actually beat a difficult Evergaol boss legit. No lol frost stomp.  I won't mention my level or my maxed out weapon.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: The Sceneman on March 16, 2022, 06:31:38 PM
Sometimes you gotta summon the realest homie you know
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 16, 2022, 08:56:35 PM
Just got summoned to a bugged Rennala fight where her shield didn't appear.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 16, 2022, 09:03:21 PM
twice in a row wtf
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 16, 2022, 09:17:27 PM
(https://preview.redd.it/771dya0r2qn81.jpg?width=500&auto=webp&s=a92d0eaf2b22c8686f3852a152a7e2da355e5f20)
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 16, 2022, 09:23:18 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/tbpt91/i_cant_believe_he_did_that_after_killing_methis/
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 16, 2022, 09:33:10 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/tdtt92/tibia_mariner_be_like/
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Polident Hive on March 17, 2022, 12:06:43 AM
Game bumped me out for a new patch, or else I would've lost sleep playing again.

Patch notes show a couple QOL improvements. A couple questline additions. Balance changes.

Mimic tear got nerfed.

RIP :spiders
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Coax on March 17, 2022, 05:43:18 AM
Found a small dungeon filled with skeletons and necromancers.  Got pretty easy to run through and didn't have trouble with the boss, but it turns out that there's another boss in there, hidden behind a wall.  An assassin who is so fast that I can't even power up weapons or do most magic to kill him.  Can't summon helpers either.
:dizzy

Guess I'll try again in another X amount of levels.

I remember this. One of the Black Knife Assassins. The Storm Stomp Ashes of War mentioned earlier is useful for staggering them.

They all seem to have varying difficulties. Worst one of the Assassins I've beat so far was the one near Atlus Plateau. Holy shit. Died more times to it than any other encounter so far except the Draconic Tree Sentinel. Almost beat it when it had 5-10% HP but subsequent runs weren't as lucky. Only succeeded after levelling Vigor for enough sliver of HP so its one slash didn't insta kill me :lol

Edit: also the talismans are useful. You can buy one that passively raises the max HP from the vendor beside the Castle Morne fast travel point, though ironically there's a talisman found in the very first dungeon of the game raises HP, stamina and carry capacity combined.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: bork on March 17, 2022, 07:33:28 AM
Game bumped me out for a new patch, or else I would've lost sleep playing again.

Patch notes show a couple QOL improvements. A couple questline additions. Balance changes.

Mimic tear got nerfed.

RIP :spiders

They also look to have possibly nerfed the night and flame sword.  Might be doing that respec sooner than I thought!
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 17, 2022, 03:35:58 PM
Just wait until you fight the leader of the Black Knife Assassins at the Ringleader Evergaol, dang she is tough af.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 17, 2022, 06:29:16 PM
Radahn's horse :dead
spoiler (click to show/hide)
It's like a codpiece he scurries around on. 
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Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Polident Hive on March 17, 2022, 08:37:15 PM
ďWhat if we made a giant spider but itís a hand and it has ten fingers and long pointy nailsĒ
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: The Sceneman on March 18, 2022, 03:50:22 AM
I am so scared of the little men
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on March 18, 2022, 08:07:59 AM
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- Increased Ash of War, Bloody Slash's self-inflict damage while slightly lowering the damage and increasing the cast time.
:foxx
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Coax on March 18, 2022, 08:31:47 AM
Turns out I missed a Sekiro-inspired Ash of War by not meeting an NPC earlier  :fbm
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nuitangg on March 18, 2022, 10:30:38 AM
Just wait until you fight the leader of the Black Knife Assassins at the Ringleader Evergaol, dang she is tough af.

The summons you get from her is pretty strong.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: MMaRsu on March 18, 2022, 11:20:03 AM
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- Increased Ash of War, Bloody Slash's self-inflict damage while slightly lowering the damage and increasing the cast time.
:foxx

WTF
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 18, 2022, 11:51:31 AM
Elden Ring Diary Entry #12: Gaslit

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(https://i.imgur.com/hhtCfOd.png)

Elden Ring does a good job of making it feel like you feel like you're approaching the end game once you reach the capital, only to rugpull you with an entire other continent out here. You don't have the right, o you don't have the right, furthermore you don't have the right. In addition to being this huge, grandiose stage, the capital was a huge difficulty spike for me. Most of the game I've felt like I've probably coasted through on being overleveled for, but when I hit the capital and had to deal with all these heavily armored lightning knights, it was a big kick in the pants. Just give me something squishy to fight, I'm begging you, please my gameplay ability is very sick. :(

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Getting to the first checkpoint was one of the hardest parts of the level, if not the game, so far. Once you enter Leyndell proper, it's a long ass way to next site of grace through a bunch of bitchass bitch boys. I got to know that first stretch of the city very well, thoroughly exploring it once, and then sprinting through it about a dozen more times after I'd died. I finally found you could shortcut half of it by jumping onto the rooftops instead of going down to street-level where all the knights where, and then I found a message advertising a shotcut ahead, but first there's a Crucible Knight in the way. I could have just ran past him, but instead I just kept fighting him and getting bodied over and over until I wanted to rip my controller in half, until finally I beat him and entered a zen state unknown to even the Dali Lama. 
:jeb

In comparison, Godfrey's Ghost and Morgott were chumps with my pre-nerf Mimic Tear Ashes. Actually playing the game? Haha, couldn't be me. 8)

https://www.xbox.com/en-us/play/media/L5UQKH4S

After getting through the capital and charging up Morgott's Great Rune, I went to finish Ranni's quest down in the River of Rot. I beat the Naturalborn of the Void and the Lazulight Dragon with the post-nerf Mimic Tear, so it's not completely trash-tier now, just a lot less aggressive. I met Ranni in a cave and I think....I think maybe we're married now? Do I finally have a waifu? Friendship with Maidenlessness ended? :-[

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(https://i.imgur.com/rfLH73z.png)

Total Time Played: ~67 hours
Current Character: Lv. 106 Samurai
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 18, 2022, 07:07:16 PM
minor spoiler

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https://gfycat.com/blissfulhideousantlion
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da fuq?
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: MMaRsu on March 19, 2022, 10:51:14 AM
https://twitter.com/Pizza_Suplex/status/1504921720221745153
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on March 19, 2022, 02:31:50 PM
Finally cleared that southern plateau.  It took more time than I thought, but can finally go back to Stormveil area and tie up loose ends there.  Slow going for me.  The increase in self damage with bloody slash kinda sucks.  :-\
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on March 19, 2022, 06:34:29 PM
Me after 4 hours in Stormveil Castle: Finally cleared this out, can move on to Liurnia.  :smug

Look up a guide...missed several sub-bosses and a few ashes of war.

 :mindblown
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Polident Hive on March 19, 2022, 07:26:30 PM
To get corny for a sec, this game brought back the fire of obsessing over games. Last night I thought I should take a break and catch up on TV shows or a movie. Just wanted to jump in and do one quick thing. Ending up played for two hours.


It's too good :tocry
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 19, 2022, 07:43:09 PM
Ya, have been out of gaming for a long time and this is making me want to play more.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Coax on March 20, 2022, 12:52:01 AM
:lol Hidden wall discovered that takes 50 hits to open. Then further in the comments someone discovers another wall like this in the same area.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/th3cao/apparently_there_is_a_hidden_wall_in_volcano/
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Coax on March 20, 2022, 07:57:47 AM
Four of those Crystalian mofos ganging up on me :beli

New fav Ash of War is Ground Slam for crazy poise damage. Knocks them, the knights at Castle Sol and other beefy enemies on their backs and wipes a chunk of their health.

Also really liking the weapon you can find in the Roundtable Hold for my Strength/Faith build. Pierces through any shield with L2 and despite being a single weapon can be equipped in each hand by using the dual wield hotkey for ultra quick damage.

Edit: L2 not R2
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on March 20, 2022, 08:05:42 AM
Made some good progress and raided the fort beyond the woods and the coastal caves, along with some other places.
Turned my Falchion into a Blood Falchion and that critical blood loss hit is very effective. (I discovered it was once I got killed many many times by creatures in some catacombs)
What didn't work out was storming the supply convoy(?) or whatever it is. I got absolutely wrecked. In some cases I did better than expected by using the right element (such as fire) against a certain type of enemy.

About lvl 18 now, I think I'm going to try and make another run at the Stormgate next, got clobbered on my first try.

I have learned a magic spell to shoot things but it seems like I need ammo or some kind of material too.  :thinking
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on March 20, 2022, 11:49:17 AM
Did everything I could of the southern plateau and tied most of Stormveil up.  Only thing left there is that giant beast in the castle sewer and that long stretch of rampart past that lion guardian thing.
Took Godrick down 2nd try.  Other than that, just romping through the various missed caves and dungeons with ease.. took out that first gold horse guy near the beginning area and the swooping dragon near that swamp.. feels good to make such progress.  Being indecisive about the mass of weapons I've obtained... Nothing really scales as well as my starter sword.. Did get the Ugikatana though.  Will maybe try it.
GOTY
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on March 20, 2022, 11:52:23 AM
Managed to make it over the bridge to the south after another failed attempt to storm the stormgate.

Killed a giant monster on horseback that was much stronger than me and took her magic staff. Now I can use my spells  :)

The minions surrendered in fear but I slaughtered them all :rash

Overall there is just a lot going on in this game :titus
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on March 20, 2022, 01:20:14 PM
Oh... And sorry, Patches.  I was overly powered and was mid swing when he attempted to surrender.   Probably cut myself off of certain items and side quests.   :doge
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: mormapope on March 20, 2022, 01:48:56 PM
https://www.xbox.com/play/media/HF69WL83

Pretty much a biblical event for me. I should've died multiple times, but was able to beat this boss on my first attempt with 16 HP left.

Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 20, 2022, 07:07:38 PM
I guess this game aint for me. I just feel like I'm wandering around aimlessly and never really making any progress. Much prefer Dark Souls 3 and BB. This whole find the map fragments to make the map actually helpful is also shit. Feels tedious.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: chronovore on March 20, 2022, 07:26:25 PM
I guess this game aint for me. I just feel like I'm wandering around aimlessly and never really making any progress. Much prefer Dark Souls 3 and BB. This whole find the map fragments to make the map actually helpful is also shit.

The more I read, the more I agree with you. I like a certain kind of difficulty but, the nature of some of these things described, I just feel like FROM developers are trolling the players.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nuitangg on March 20, 2022, 07:38:36 PM
Map fragments are marked on the map.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 20, 2022, 07:44:19 PM
Game is the easiest souls game I have played.  You basically just set your own difficulty by how much you want to explore.  Explore more and it gets a lot easier.  There is also a ton of options for cheesing bosses if you want.  Like you are going to die, sure, but the game really lets you determine how much you want to bang your head against walls. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 20, 2022, 08:00:04 PM
Map fragments are marked on the map.
https://attackofthefanboy.com/guides/psa-elden-ring-map-fragment-locations-are-actually-marked-with-an-icon-on-the-map/

You mean this?

I guess, I mean I can't even see them where I am right now, and just looking up how many they are, there are tons. Seems like a lot of tedious open-world crap. Something I thought this game would avoid.

I guess I just don't like open world games.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on March 20, 2022, 08:07:35 PM
Managed to storm the Stormgate and won.  :)

I guess this game aint for me. I just feel like I'm wandering around aimlessly and never really making any progress. Much prefer Dark Souls 3 and BB. This whole find the map fragments to make the map actually helpful is also shit.

The more I read, the more I agree with you. I like a certain kind of difficulty but, the nature of some of these things described, I just feel like FROM developers are trolling the players.
It reminds me a lot of Breath of the Wild in structure although I suppose all these games have their roots in Metal Gear Solid V.

Overall I find this game more fair than previous Souls games I've played. The game structure is quite simple.
You play a few story beats until it becomes too difficult and then you explore the surrounding area for better items/weapons/spells/items/health upgrades.
Most is optional so if you find yourself stuck at a boss you can't beat, you can simply turn away and look for a different challenge that better matches your level or skills.
With the horse you can pretty much zoom past any enemy you don't want to fight.

A lot of tactics are viable. Spamming magic attacks or arrows from a distance, swinging a giant sword or summoning a wolfpack to soften up and distract enemies.
Although there's certainly still some 'git gud' element to this game, I would say that things like strategy and understanding the systems goes a long way.
Big enemies are often easier to beat on horseback, lots of enemies can be stunned with elements (i.e. fire) and at the start of the game that is as simple as attacking with your torch.
In most encounters (I got blown to shit by a ballista for example) the solution was not brute force but adapting my strategy. In case of the balista, I could simply sneak around it and kill the weak enemy controlling it.

Also most enemies are slow and you aren't easily spotted when sneaking around so you can take some time to scout and find out what the weakpoints are in their formations or simply run away.
Shields are surprisingly helpful in this game too both for close combat as well as ranged attacks as are crafting items (make sure to buy the cookbooks and pots from the merchants).

The mistake I made (and why I couldn't get any traction at first) is that I didn't spend my runes or sold my loot.
Early on you just gotta sell most of your loot and spend runes on levels, armor and items. That allows you to beat the first few caves which rewards you with a number of strong weapons and summons.

Also the map fragments are actually marked on the map when you first enter a new area. It's the signpost sort of thing. Just run up with your horse and collect it.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Supermanisdead on March 20, 2022, 08:16:09 PM
I beat that boss everyone was whining about. I think Iím at the final boss now. I wanna start a new game + as soon as possible
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nuitangg on March 20, 2022, 08:16:22 PM
I'm not a huge open world fan and I've probably played From's other games a total of 3 hours. I'm around 100 hours in and about halfway through the story. Game is massive and the best game I've played in years.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 20, 2022, 08:23:30 PM
Game is the easiest souls game I have played.  You basically just set your own difficulty by how much you want to explore.  Explore more and it gets a lot easier.  There is also a ton of options for cheesing bosses if you want.  Like you are going to die, sure, but the game really lets you determine how much you want to bang your head against walls.
Does it though?


If you ran into a hard boss in Dark Souls 3 or BB, you could go grind. But it was always pretty clear and controlled. Like it was clear when you were ready and leveled for a boss based on how easy the area became. You also started to "master" an area based on how much you died and came back. You became powerful and smarter as you were familiarised with the area. The joy of finding the shortcuts compounded with that. By the time you were done with an area it felt like you knew the ends and outs. And it always felt like you were making progress as you knew were to go, what the goal was.

Here, I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or going. There's no real feeling of progress for me.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nuitangg on March 20, 2022, 08:29:45 PM
I'm not sure what game you're playing. lol
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 20, 2022, 08:44:12 PM
I'm playing Elden Ring.

https://i.imgur.com/LTwnx6r.jpg
And this is where I am, a vague nondescript place that took me a bit to find because:

https://i.imgur.com/MvqkbX9.jpg

the map is not very helpful.

I came here because I'm not sure why I can't defeat the first boss(maybe they are the first boss) and wanted to find better things. Which I did after just randomly running around. I'm also level 30 or so after a few hours of just running around a pretty whatever environment that seems big for the sake of big. Killing things and yet feeling like nothing has happened.

In previous Souls games I would feel like I was progressing inch by inch through the level, gaining new ground. Having a rhyme and a reason behind the area I'm at. Not wondering around because I ran into a wall.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nuitangg on March 20, 2022, 09:48:38 PM
Certain grace sites will point you in a direction.  Were you ported there?  That looks like Caelid.  If you're level 30 you're probably going to have a bad time in that area.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: mormapope on March 20, 2022, 10:15:15 PM
I'm not going to say Elden Ring is a linear experience that actually holds your hand and it's super clear on what you're supposed to be doing.

But Elden Ring is also not a cryptic mess, nor is it a Minecraft style game where there's no clear goal.

Progress for me was running away from giants at the start of the game out of giddy fear, running away from dragons.....to wielding a colossal sword and charging headfirst into fights, looking to swing a big ass sword and fuck up a powerful creature or beings.

Breath of the Wild was a very similar experience and that is also one of the best games of all time. If you don't find exploring a big world and gaining knowledge/power in an open world to be fun, than Elden Ring won't  be fun.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 20, 2022, 10:24:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUcFkpIVEHA  those last things.  spoilers.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 20, 2022, 11:03:06 PM
I'm playing Elden Ring.

https://i.imgur.com/LTwnx6r.jpg
And this is where I am, a vague nondescript place that took me a bit to find because:

https://i.imgur.com/MvqkbX9.jpg

the map is not very helpful.

I came here because I'm not sure why I can't defeat the first boss(maybe they are the first boss) and wanted to find better things. Which I did after just randomly running around. I'm also level 30 or so after a few hours of just running around a pretty whatever environment that seems big for the sake of big. Killing things and yet feeling like nothing has happened.

In previous Souls games I would feel like I was progressing inch by inch through the level, gaining new ground. Having a rhyme and a reason behind the area I'm at. Not wondering around because I ran into a wall.

If you are having a hard time in an area you really have two opinions: continue on or leave and find something that doesn't give you a hard time.  If you go into a new area and feel lost and overwhelmed, just leave it for later. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: remy on March 20, 2022, 11:17:32 PM
It looks like the rope bridge in the albinaurac villiage in liurnia lakes. pretty impressive level of distinguished mentally-challenged to get there before even beating godrick, in a game where a glowing golden light tells you where to go
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 20, 2022, 11:45:50 PM
I mean I donít know how itís distinguished mentally-challenged when Iím being told to just go other places if a place is hard.

Either way I hope From makes another Souls game that is not open world and returns to the excellent and focused level design of previous games. Maybe a new engine will make them scale back. But I fear since this game is a hit Iíll never get that game again. This so far is one of the most boring and meandering games Iíve played in a long while.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Supermanisdead on March 21, 2022, 01:48:32 AM
its funny they "fixed" rivers of blood but now its stronger than moonveil lmao
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Coax on March 21, 2022, 02:15:06 AM
Decided to finally try Radahn since I'd been putting him off after reading so many complaints about RNG. Beat him on the third attempt using just Honed Bolt on horseback :doge Tbf I'm likely overleveled though.

Honed Bolt is def one of the most generally useful Faith spells. The charge up time is ~2 seconds but after that it can be spammed near-instantaneously up to like 5 times and always hits the target within range since it's locked on and strikes from above.

The Castle Sol boss took far more attempts. While attempting the Sol boss read of a level skip but after trying it didn't feel right so beat him normally.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: HardcoreRetro on March 21, 2022, 04:52:46 AM
I mean I donít know how itís distinguished mentally-challenged when Iím being told to just go other places if a place is hard.

Either way I hope From makes another Souls game that is not open world and returns to the excellent and focused level design of previous games. Maybe a new engine will make them scale back. But I fear since this game is a hit Iíll never get that game again. This so far is one of the most boring and meandering games Iíve played in a long while.

(https://culturedvultures.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Elden-Ring-maps-2.jpg)

This is what you're looking for. Once you collect the item at that place it fills in the map for you. The whisp coming from the grace also points you in the direction you should go.

What you call boring and meandering is what someone else would call actual exploration. Finding out stuff on your own. Having to actually figure out stuff on your own makes you internalize the map. I can point out from memory where important landmarks are located in this game.  In most open-world games I just follow the markers and never learn they lay of the land, cause it isn't important.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on March 21, 2022, 07:25:20 AM
I mean I donít know how itís distinguished mentally-challenged when Iím being told to just go other places if a place is hard.

Either way I hope From makes another Souls game that is not open world and returns to the excellent and focused level design of previous games. Maybe a new engine will make them scale back. But I fear since this game is a hit Iíll never get that game again. This so far is one of the most boring and meandering games Iíve played in a long while.

follow wisps, collect maps, look at thing on map, travel to thing on map. do dungeon, find quest. there's a lot of really great visual storytelling going on, those early areas are fantastic. might as well engage the game on it's terms before writing it off. i've played through the game a few times now (well, half a run with a new char) and I still haven't found that side path around the castle heh. i feel like the game so clearly, through visual hints and the site of grace wisps, pulls you into limgrave or south to the weeping peninsula. caelid too scary at the start, stormveil likely too hard. east, west and north are fairly well blocked.... might as well try south eh.

fair to say, you've had a bit of an odd experience. certainly about as enigmatic at the beginning as a from game gets, but the flow of the game felt fairly intuitive after a while. there's always something looming over you, tempting you to push in; stormveil at the beginning, but every point in the game has that peak you're looking at trying to decide when you're ready to try and climb it with the surrounding areas providing dungeons, towns, caves etc to give you the tools you need.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 21, 2022, 08:40:24 AM
It looks like the rope bridge in the albinaurac villiage in liurnia lakes. pretty impressive level of distinguished mentally-challenged to get there before even beating godrick, in a game where a glowing golden light tells you where to go

There is no need for name calling just because someone has a different experience than you with something you are into.  I mean this isn't the Startrek thread. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 21, 2022, 09:05:00 AM
If you're having trouble in the early game, the southern part of starting area, Weeping Peninsula, is a good place to start.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 21, 2022, 09:30:07 AM
its funny they "fixed" rivers of blood but now its stronger than moonveil lmao

Once I could +10 Rivers of Blood, I respecc'd my character and dumped 55 points into Arcane for that sweet, sweet Blood Loss. :lawd My raw damage output is about the same as the Meteoric Ore Blade (~650) but now I've got 75 Bleed instead of 50. I also like the special on the RoB more than the MOB.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Supermanisdead on March 21, 2022, 10:30:11 AM
I currently have rivers of blood and eleonoraís pole blade at +10 (with 60 arcane and 30 dex) and itís insane. One L2 from pole blade is almost always a guaranteed down plus huge blood loss proc. Itís making the late game fights so easy.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 21, 2022, 12:08:49 PM
Blood for the Blood God!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1099419909736620032/dixeyJHy_400x400.jpg)
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on March 21, 2022, 01:59:56 PM
Watching ONGBAL no hit level 1 wretch videos make me sick.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: MMaRsu on March 21, 2022, 02:48:26 PM
Map fragments are marked on the map.
https://attackofthefanboy.com/guides/psa-elden-ring-map-fragment-locations-are-actually-marked-with-an-icon-on-the-map/

You mean this?

I guess, I mean I can't even see them where I am right now, and just looking up how many they are, there are tons. Seems like a lot of tedious open-world crap. Something I thought this game would avoid.

I guess I just don't like open world games.

Lmao 6 map fragments to easily grab

What is bad or hard about that?
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: The Sceneman on March 21, 2022, 03:12:41 PM
Thats like, the only collectible lol. Not even essential to progress. The world is so well landmarked you can generally find your way using the compass and whatever giant castle is in the vicinity. And the map things are easy to find :shrug:
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 22, 2022, 09:54:18 AM
Elden Ring Diary Entry #13: Final Push

Another night of playing Elden Ring past midnight, then laying awake for several more hours because I can't stop thinking about Elden Ring.  :stahp

I don't want it to end, but also I kinda do. There's still a hundred little things I could do, but I've decided to focus all my efforts into cheevo related tasks. That means taking down all the major bosses and collecting all the Legendary Weapons, Ashes, Sorceries, and Talismans. To that end, I defeated all the remaining Shardbearers, and then cleared the Subterranean Shunning Grounds, which I missed on my first pass of the capital. I also got all the Legendary Ashes, and all but one weapon and one sorcery, and I know where they are. Then I'll just need to find all the talismans, and I'll be ready to tackle the last area.

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Total Time Played: ~82 hours
Current Character: Lv. 140 Samurai
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 22, 2022, 10:27:51 AM
So decided to go back to the academy to do Thops' quest.  Patches, that son of a bitch, wasn't lying about the iron maiden that teleports you :dead
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on March 22, 2022, 05:35:54 PM
Every time I think I'm ready for the first boss he still kicks my ass.  :doge :lol
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on March 22, 2022, 06:37:55 PM
Every time I think I'm ready for the first boss he still kicks my ass.  :doge :lol
You going full-on 1 vs 1?  I'd definitely use an ash of war summon as a distraction, if not already.  I had the wolves, but I'd use them later in the fight when I can get an edge on him at first. (Assuming you're talking about Margit?)
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 22, 2022, 07:21:03 PM
Elden Ring Diary Entry #14: GOTY 2022

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Total Time Played: ~86 hours
Current Character: Lv. 153 Samurai
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on March 22, 2022, 07:29:44 PM
Every time I think I'm ready for the first boss he still kicks my ass.  :doge :lol
You going full-on 1 vs 1?  I'd definitely use an ash of war summon as a distraction, if not already.  I had the wolves, but I'd use them later in the fight when I can get an edge on him at first. (Assuming you're talking about Margit?)
Yeah I got the wolves, but I'm level 25 or so and I think I need to get to level 30 first so I can do enough damage and not die too soon.
I can get him down to about half his health, than he gets serious and destroys me.

A better armor would probably also help.

Also it takes way too long to ring that bell.  :lol
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 22, 2022, 07:34:27 PM
Jellyfish is better on most bosses because it stays alive longer. You can get it in the shack before the castle. Just let it draw aggro and then stab 'em in the butt.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 22, 2022, 11:44:24 PM
Man I am level 80, at 75 hours and only have two bosses done.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on March 23, 2022, 12:11:49 AM
joe stickin' to the plan  :salute

now, to kill chaos
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Coax on March 23, 2022, 12:26:48 AM
Yeah I got the wolves, but I'm level 25 or so and I think I need to get to level 30 first so I can do enough damage and not die too soon.
I can get him down to about half his health, than he gets serious and destroys me.

Also keep in mind at that point there's a way to unlock the ability to upgrade your Ashes summons via a questline for a character you meet nearby. Upgrading summons to have beefier health allows them to take the focus off you longer (which I feel is the main benefit of summons).

Edit: you may already know this but a way of more immediately summoning is to hotkey your summons via your pouch to one of the D-pad buttons, then trigger with the Use button + D-pad direction it's set to. One of the most useful Flask of Physick tears you can find is the one that removes all FP limit for 10-15 seconds which is great for summoning higher tier Ashes if you normally lack the FP in your build.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Supermanisdead on March 23, 2022, 05:11:43 AM
malenia is the sickest boss fight ever in a game omg. i beat her tho  :-*
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nuitangg on March 23, 2022, 09:27:51 AM
I'm struggling just to get to Malenia. This place is destroying me.  :lol
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 23, 2022, 09:31:02 AM
Yeah, Haligtree is a tough area, no shame in just running lol.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on March 23, 2022, 10:37:57 AM
You can completely change your appearance whenever you want in the mirror of momma's bedroom?!  :gladbron :rejoice  No more regretful face tatoo!

And possibly too many more hours will be lost just messing with that.   :doge  Every game with a character creation should have this option. No excuse.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Polident Hive on March 23, 2022, 10:52:53 AM
Tempted to go for all the trophies. Reading how the ending related ones require backing up your save three or four times.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 23, 2022, 11:43:06 AM
Tempted to go for all the trophies. Reading how the ending related ones require backing up your save three or four times.

Fortunately you don't have to fight the final boss again. There's a grace after the boss and you can backup save there, and use it to get the other endings. Once you've reached the end of all the relevant questlines you can grab all three ending achievements in about 3 minutes. Just be careful not to do the very last part of the Frenzied Flame questline (entering the flame door) until you've already gotten the other two.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on March 23, 2022, 04:39:43 PM
i did frenzied flame so early lmao. i did figure out later that you get a different ending if you do frenzied flame before the forge. no other endings for me, but im already most of the way through with new char and i'll go to ng+ eventually.

re differences if you do frenzied flame pre-forge

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you take melinas place at the forge, she doesn't sacrifice herself. she also shows up at the end and vows to hunt down and kill you.
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Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on March 23, 2022, 06:47:09 PM
(https://abload.de/img/cuckfuck91k10.jpg)

Margit is DEAD his castle will soon be mine.

I figured that I was too weak in strength but this was not the case. Although the new sword and shield I found also made a difference. And the Jellyfish to distract his stupid ass  :)
In the end though I finally figured out I was just slow and sluggish. I removed most equipment to just a sword and shield so I could roll and run faster (and keep more stamina, a stat I admit, I pretty much ignored)
Turns out that was the key to dodging those cheap ass combo's.


Also I just realized what this game is.
Remember 2014?

Reggie said: "Here's one more world for Nintendo GameCube" and it looked like a big ass open world Zelda game heavily inspired by LOTR, D&D and all sorts of other RPG stuff. Aonuma acknowledged this in interviews.
Saying that for the first time in the Zelda series, bosses would not be limited to dungeons and animals would play a huge part in the story. Not to mention dungeons could be played in any order.
Then Shadow of the Collusus came out and me and my brehs went like: "Damn, imagine a game like this but not just the giants but towns and enemies and everything in between, Zelda is going to be amazing"

Of course Zelda 2014 became Zelda TP, which was a good game but not open world and very different from the beta. And all the other open world games went into the icon and busywork Ubisoft direction.
Which was fun also but just not the same. Finally Witcher 3 hits and it's a great and awesome game, again takes a few of those cues to move it away from the Ubi structure but yet again not 'everything'.
Nintendo has a second try with Breath of the Wild. And by god that is an amazing game. At the same time it is held back by some Nintendo decisions. It is difficult yes but the main storyline and bosses are fairly simple.
Also your sword breaks every 2 seconds for no real reason and there's a lot of elements not really fleshed out. The rewards are mostly limited to gear or powering up either your equipment slots, stamina or health.

Finally we have Elden Ring. The promised game. The best game.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 23, 2022, 09:00:21 PM
How far can I go on ranni's quest before it locks me into an ending or does it even?
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Coax on March 24, 2022, 01:00:43 AM
How far can I go on ranni's quest before it locks me into an ending or does it even?

From what I can tell it just gives you the option for an ending later but I'll let someone who's completed it that way confirm.

At the point where you find the thing she's wanting it's about the half-way point in her questline fwiw. It's only by following more of the questline that unlocks what's needed for that ending.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 24, 2022, 01:34:39 AM
Yeah, Ranniís questline doesnít lock you into her ending.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Coax on March 24, 2022, 05:11:32 AM
Interestingly Malenia's HP was down to ~66% and depleting at the beginning of phase two, on my forth attempt (and first time getting to phase two). Not sure what caused it.

She one-shot me right as the cutscene ended so I barely got a chance to see though :doge
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: The Sceneman on March 24, 2022, 04:39:45 PM
Burned all my rune consumables so I could add 6 DEX so I could equip the Nightrider Flail. Only to find the thing had worse stats than my Flail +6  :noah

Now I'm farming smithing stones so I can upgrade it. Damn sunk-cost fallacy

I'm really taking my time with this thing, Been exploring the academy a bit but theres just so much to do its insane. GOTY for sure, I'll be playing this for ages
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on March 24, 2022, 06:08:57 PM
any weapon at +6 is going to out damage a similar weapon type at +0 unless you upgraded some junk meme weapon like a rusty broken sword or something

also +6 is nothing lel. i think i had 3-4 normal weapons at +24/25, a few staffs and moonveil at +10 before i learnt you could just dupe stuff. just get some bell bearings and give em to the lady at roundtable to buy stones
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Polident Hive on March 24, 2022, 07:02:51 PM
Went do or die with Malenia. Cheeks out. No shield. Blue dancer and other talismans to boost attack and stamina.

Crazy fight. Whenever I tried playing it conservatively, she'd siphon health and give no space to breath. That jumping attack..
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on March 24, 2022, 07:16:12 PM
Managed to make my way through the castle to the next boss but wanted to level some more before an honest attempt.

I figured I'd visit the lake.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
There's a motherfucking Dragon at the lake. Absolutely spectacular
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And it's dead now  :pimp

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The fight is pretty easy, just avoid the fire. Which is a challenge but doable on the horse.
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Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: demi on March 24, 2022, 07:32:13 PM
I'm getting messages from people who would normally have no interest in Souls game playing this game. "Look at my character hehe"

This will be the most normie and successful Souls game yet - as if that hasnt been established already
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on March 24, 2022, 08:00:00 PM
Medieval Fantasy things being popular again (in part thanks to GoT) helps as does the uptick in gaming popularity thanks to the lockdowns.
Lots of normies play Assassins Creed, Zelda and GTA and the likes and this sort of falls into the same category.

After what happened with Cyberpunk gamers were also worried that Elden Ring would be overhyped or unfinished.
Turns out Elden Ring is much better than most expected.

But yeah apart from the war in Ukraine, Elden Ring is probably the biggest thing in entertainment right now.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on March 24, 2022, 10:02:38 PM
40 hours in, about to start Raya Lucaria Academy.

I had a play session that started with fighting an Assassin in a skeleton infested catacomb, was enjoying a nice ride through the woods when I murdered by trebuchets, summoned my bow waifu to help kill a magical dragon, took an elevator down to a tunnel filled with giant ants, was driven mad by a tower filled with frenzied monks and finally entered a mansion where I was ambushed by giant hand creatures.

This game

 :lawd
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Polident Hive on March 25, 2022, 10:40:04 AM
Done. Elite game. Top five.

 :rejoice :jeb :klob
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on March 25, 2022, 11:04:09 AM
Having 3 days withdrawals... Nothing but ER on my mind...

I was falling asleep last night thinking about it, then literally jarred myself awake all of a sudden realizing I forgot a part of stormviel I meant to go back to.

(https://media4.giphy.com/media/ZBPv3LmgRcatmHulfz/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: paprikastaude on March 25, 2022, 12:51:20 PM
Can't find the way to magma land and had a dream about it today :thinking
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Coax on March 27, 2022, 07:59:05 AM
The drop rate on the Magma Blade is un-freaking-real. Still haven't got one, even with 190-240 Discovery depending on what I have equipped/buffed. People complain about the Halo Scythe drop rate but that seems generous to me in comparison (have two without much farming... maaybe I got lucky with RNG but still).

Black Knife and Halo Scythe are fantastic weapons btw. The former has the projectile weapon skill that the Black Knife Assassins use which lowers an enemy's max HP on the first hit and takes a chunk out for each hit. The Scythe OTOH has honing projectile tracking and allows for as many repeated projectiles as you have FP for, with no subsequent wind-up, plus the base weapon has better physical damage.

(https://abload.de/img/er0wkxs.jpg)

:rock
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on March 27, 2022, 02:08:46 PM
About to enter the Academy.  It was 4am, so had to stop there for the night. Lawd dis game.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 27, 2022, 07:29:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZhn-q9JG9I

:dead
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on March 27, 2022, 10:30:52 PM
The drop rate on the Magma Blade is un-freaking-real. Still haven't got one, even with 190-240 Discovery depending on what I have equipped/buffed. People complain about the Halo Scythe drop rate but that seems generous to me in comparison (have two without much farming... maaybe I got lucky with RNG but still).

Black Knife and Halo Scythe are fantastic weapons btw. The former has the projectile weapon skill that the Black Knife Assassin's use which lowers an enemy's max HP on the first hit and takes a chunk out for each hit. The Scythe OTOH has honing projectile tracking and allows for as many repeated projectiles as you have FP for, with no subsequent wind-up, plus the base weapon has better physical damage.

(https://abload.de/img/er0wkxs.jpg)

:rock

had to look up the magma blade. looks sick.

i haven't got any of the rng stuff. i tried for the cat mask, then realised it was too heavy and looked bad anyway for something that gives +2 INT when I can wear the preceptor's or rennala's hat for better stat increases and better looking armor.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Supermanisdead on March 28, 2022, 07:32:15 AM
malenia's sword fucking sucks. the wind up animation on the special takes ages and you can just get knocked out of it.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Coax on March 28, 2022, 09:48:21 AM
This descending platforming section... Thought, eh, how bad can it be. Lost 124k runes since I missed a ledge despite being in line of jump :dead
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 28, 2022, 10:47:47 AM
This descending platforming section... Thought, eh, how bad can it be. Lost 124k runes since I missed a ledge despite being in line of jump :dead

lmao, I know where you're at, I died there at least 20 times
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Polident Hive on March 28, 2022, 01:46:19 PM
Sometimes I think platforming is an area they can smooth out. But it's very funny. Taking twenty seconds to inch off a platform. Collision detection is so off you can be a foot away from the platform, standing on air. You drop and slide off the flat platform you landed on to face plant into the abyss.

Played with the PS5 app for PVP and riding around. Late by a month here, and I'm a philistine about this stuff, but it seems 98% the same as the PS4 app. Bit sharper. Bit choppier with the frame rate. Loading times are a second faster.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Tuckers Law on March 28, 2022, 04:00:32 PM
Is there any holy weapon I can get very early to help keep undead types from resurrecting?  Iíve only barely played the game so far, Iím ten hours in and have been exploring (havenít even touched the big castle the game was leading me towards after exiting the starting grave), and so far only thing I have found to take them down permanently is the holy pot recipe.

My apologies if itís been mentioned upthread, Iíve generally been avoiding this one as Iíd like to experience a lot of this game with fresh eyes, and so far the resurrecting skellies have been my only annoyance where finding the solution myself isnít likely to be worth it.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 28, 2022, 04:16:01 PM
You can just stab their souls when they come back to keep them down -- don't need a holy weapon. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Tuckers Law on March 28, 2022, 04:59:44 PM
Wtf, seriously?
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 28, 2022, 05:07:45 PM
My friend, who is 40 hours in, just discovered the run button. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Polident Hive on March 28, 2022, 05:20:19 PM
Wtf, seriously?

Yeah. You can't lock on. Just swing at the glowing mist above the corpse. They'll stay down.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Tuckers Law on March 28, 2022, 05:53:45 PM
 :neogaf :lol :lol
I canít believe I didnít try that, I just assumed they were like all the other undead assholes in Souls games.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on March 28, 2022, 07:46:33 PM
Also fire works well against them.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nuitangg on March 28, 2022, 10:28:33 PM
Final boss is so dumb. Not having fun anymore.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on March 28, 2022, 11:17:38 PM
which one? radagon is pretty cool, other one yeah, i empathise
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: thetylerrob on March 28, 2022, 11:20:39 PM
Yeah, the final boss sucks. Took me like 3 hours. You'll get it.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on March 28, 2022, 11:27:11 PM
they should've let you use torrent for the beast, would've been sick
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on March 28, 2022, 11:39:29 PM
i think the boss is fine conceptually but toon much rng on what attacks it chooses. have fought it quite a few times now in my playthroughs and co-op. sometimes it just hangs out and lets you smash, others it flits from one end of the arena to the other, sometimes it triggers that awful homing attack while peppering you with alternate ranged attacks. can feel really easy or really hard depending what moves you roll
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: The Sceneman on March 29, 2022, 05:20:07 AM
Finally got access to a great rune and dang this shit powers you up good. I might even make some progress now with these buffed stats. Got a good supply of rune arcs saved up
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: The Sceneman on March 29, 2022, 05:25:12 AM
And I just wish I had more time and energy to play this :( job is kinda all consuming right now
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Coax on March 29, 2022, 07:36:30 AM
had to look up the magma blade. looks sick.

Wasn't too long after that I obtained one. Best aspect about it is it continuously stunlocks enemies while its spammed due to the molten floor it creates.

Tried it with one of the Erdtree Avatars patrolling Haligree and it killed it after two cycles of spamming the weapon skill. Also against Fire Monks and it melted them which was curious. Stunlocks the Banished Knights at Farum Azula, too (though Hoarfrost Stomp is better for creating distance and is similarly effective).

Only real downside is the close proximity needed for enemies for the stunlock to be really effective, so you need to be in their face (or theirs in yours, like a gang) else they can move out of the pools.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on March 29, 2022, 06:38:38 PM
Finally got some time to play this again.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Godfrey kicked my ass at the end of Stormveil castle. Then I found a route around it and ended up in the Lakes of something something :rejoice
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Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 29, 2022, 08:31:38 PM
Beat Morgott on the second try without taking a hit.  Only died the first time because after the cutscene he is right in your face and I tried to summon Mimic.  The gargoyle before him and the shade gave me like 8 deaths though lol.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nuitangg on March 29, 2022, 09:59:16 PM
Finally beat the game.  Probably my favorite single player game ever even though it drove me insane at times.  Are they serious with these Bell Bearing Hunters? lol   Can't wait for the DLC. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Coax on March 30, 2022, 06:07:06 AM
One-Eyed shield at +9 did 3.5k damage in a single hit to those death bird things :whoo
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on March 30, 2022, 12:06:57 PM
And I just wish I had more time and energy to play this :( job is kinda all consuming right now
Before a From game drops, it's important to remember to quit your job, divorce your spouse and abandon your children.

 :rollsafe
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Same boat. I really only have 2 days a week to dig in, still in the second area and feel like I'm way behind.
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Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on March 30, 2022, 02:54:17 PM
And I just wish I had more time and energy to play this :( job is kinda all consuming right now
Before a From game drops, it's important to remember to quit your job, divorce your spouse and abandon your children.

 :rollsafe
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Same boat. I really only have 2 days a week to dig in, still in the second area and feel like I'm way behind.
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Totally same boat too.. it's not just you all.  Friday and Saturday nights is all I get... starting at midnight usually.  :dead  I'll still be playing my first run well into Summer most likely. lol
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Tuckers Law on March 30, 2022, 10:40:07 PM
Bless you skeletal militiaman ashes, allowed me to first try beat that Margit guy I keep seeing mentioned elsewhere in passing as a tough fight.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: MMaRsu on March 31, 2022, 08:57:30 AM
https://twitter.com/uwais_alqarani/status/1509255170060095488

(https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/perm-russia-may-scarab-beetle-big-ball-made-tires-statue-park-stones-more-than-thousands-old-tires-used-to-create-38502652.jpg)
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 31, 2022, 09:09:09 AM
Be wary of prawn
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: paprikastaude on March 31, 2022, 10:15:17 AM
https://twitter.com/Harada_TEKKEN/status/1509442571004637189
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 31, 2022, 10:27:33 AM
Harada: "Yeah I basically made Elden Ring, haha j/k....unless?"
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on March 31, 2022, 01:30:27 PM
Managed to sneak in an hour last night.  Started the Academy and made it to the next site of grace up the water lift after beating ďLegacy of KainĒ lol

Over the weekend, I did re-edit my character and saved itís own profile.  Itís pretty awesome that you can literally make as many character creations you like for the file and swap them out whenever.  Thatís a nice addition to character creation games.  However, I think the lack of a playable helmet toggle is lame at this point.  They let you do it in the menu to view only, but canít play like that?Ö  Why even..???
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on April 01, 2022, 12:48:55 PM
it's only a hunch, but I feel like some of the better helms/hats and to a lesser extent armours are intentionally ugly or at least odd looking so you have to make the choice between pragmatism and aesthetics
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 01, 2022, 01:44:46 PM
My character is so over-leveled I'm dumping levels into arcane just for funsies. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on April 02, 2022, 10:02:44 AM
Deep into Caelid now and geez do they throw tons of cool Int weapons at you. I've gotten a lot of good incantations but neat faith weapons feel really few and far between right now.

I'm considering just pumping str or int, it will open up so many weapon possibilities.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 02, 2022, 11:07:55 AM
Ya feels like all the cool weapons need int.  I did strength/faith, and then dex and now arcane to try to be able to play with better weapons. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on April 02, 2022, 03:04:00 PM
Are there a lot more arcane scaling weapons later on? I could see trying faith/arcane.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Supermanisdead on April 03, 2022, 06:55:55 AM
Are there a lot more arcane scaling weapons later on? I could see trying faith/arcane.

Yeah, towards late game a lot of insanely good Arcane weapons. It makes blood loss build up faster so you can basically blow up enemies in a couple hits.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Polident Hive on April 03, 2022, 02:41:16 PM
Dex people seem to switch from Moonveil to Rivers of Blood for the blood loss and arcane scaling.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nuitangg on April 03, 2022, 03:06:42 PM
I'd probably still be trying to finish the game if I didn't switch to rivers of blood.  Also, Carian Retaliation is hilariously broken.  :lol
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: therealdeal on April 03, 2022, 03:24:44 PM
went for waifu ending, all done :)
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on April 03, 2022, 04:04:38 PM
I'd probably still be trying to finish the game if I didn't switch to rivers of blood.  Also, Carian Retaliation is hilariously broken.  :lol

have they still not patched the latter?  :lol
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: The Sceneman on April 03, 2022, 06:05:28 PM
it's only a hunch, but I feel like some of the better helms/hats and to a lesser extent armours are intentionally ugly or at least odd looking so you have to make the choice between pragmatism and aesthetics

some real crazy big ol hats in this
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nuitangg on April 03, 2022, 06:22:26 PM
I'd probably still be trying to finish the game if I didn't switch to rivers of blood.  Also, Carian Retaliation is hilariously broken.  :lol

have they still not patched the latter?  :lol

Still working as of last night.  I imagine soon though.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: The Sceneman on April 03, 2022, 06:57:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPXLKg24f3o

Think about this scene all the time while playing. See so many phantoms wearin big ass crazy hatz
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on April 03, 2022, 09:48:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPXLKg24f3o

Think about this scene all the time while playing. See so many phantoms wearin big ass crazy hatz

everyone wears the preceptors hat because it good
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Coax on April 04, 2022, 09:57:37 AM
Beat the other Draconic Tree Sentinel with the Fingerprint shield and a spear and continuously poking  :teehee The beefy shield made all the difference. Unless right beside him he'll just spam his long range spells which became annoying to avoid.

Also while at first I was dissuaded by the trivially interruptible cast time of the Scarlet Aeonia spell I've found it useful in a couple fights when you have enough distance. Does decent DPS over time.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 04, 2022, 11:54:41 AM
it's only a hunch, but I feel like some of the better helms/hats and to a lesser extent armours are intentionally ugly or at least odd looking so you have to make the choice between pragmatism and aesthetics

some real crazy big ol hats in this

Pumpkin Head helm :rejoice
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Supermanisdead on April 05, 2022, 01:36:41 PM
finished the game at around 95 hours, then zoomed through journey #2 and now am about to start journey #3. i thought i would go slowly and try to get 100% completion but i accidentally killed patches already  :-\
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Tuckers Law on April 06, 2022, 11:21:29 AM
Mad tongue albrich is a fuckin bitch.  Infinidodgeroll spamming little bitch, fuck you.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on April 06, 2022, 11:55:43 AM
I've had only 3 hours of play the past 10 days...
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Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Tuckers Law on April 06, 2022, 12:03:04 PM
All I do while at work is think about playing Elden Ring.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: therealdeal on April 06, 2022, 12:52:51 PM
step it up and play at work
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 06, 2022, 11:39:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_RkJJMwfCA
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Coax on April 07, 2022, 01:28:15 AM
TIL people farm runes AFK using PvP where their character is in hard to reach or out of bounds locations so the opponent kills themselves/leaves and the AFK'er gets runes as a result.

Thing is, from what I've read the rune pay-out is a percentage dependent on the 'defeated' player's level is and some other variables. Some have seen such farmers with as few as 7k runes when they kill them. Additionally some have seen such AFK'ers respond quickly to player attacks... so they're still by their system anyway :wtf

Like, if the goal is to be able to quickly level just use a decent PvE farming spot and enjoy some of the combat and test weapons. If the goal is to be overleveled for PvP then it's self-defeating since there are diminishing number of players for PvP matchmaking beyond a certain level. I could maybe understand if it were for late-game smithing stones for upgrading weapons but realistically how many weapons do they need to level? It doesn't cost that much anyway relative to how quickly runes can be obtained.

... Also some are on PC where they could just use cheats  :lol
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Snoopycat_ on April 07, 2022, 11:40:56 AM
What grinds my gears are people who summon you for boss fights then hide in a corner and donít make any attempt to fight. Iíve gotten so pissed off with it I started getting the bossís health almost done then I go stand in the corner next to them. The hate mail is hilarious
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 07, 2022, 12:49:19 PM
To help cowards is the burden of true Tarnished. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on April 07, 2022, 12:55:35 PM
What grinds my gears are people who summon you for boss fights then hide in a corner and donít make any attempt to fight. Iíve gotten so pissed off with it I started getting the bossís health almost done then I go stand in the corner next to them. The hate mail is hilarious
I was helping a guy run Stormveil castle in co-op and we ran into a putrid tree spirit. Both of us are low on estus but I'm like fuck it, i'll do the best I can and see what happens.

After around maybe 2 minutes, I have it down to less than 20% of its total health and only took one hit but I'm out of healing. I'm feeling pretty good about this and realize we can actually win.

Me: Dude, we can do this. Just keep it up!
Guy: ...what?
Me: The boss is almost dead, just keep attacking!
Guy: I took the ladder up a few minutes ago. Are you still fighting that thing?

 :existential
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: bork on April 07, 2022, 01:16:18 PM
I've had only 3 hours of play the past 10 days...
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I feel you.
:stahp
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Snoopycat_ on April 07, 2022, 07:37:58 PM

After around maybe 2 minutes, I have it down to less than 20% of its total health and only took one hit but I'm out of healing. I'm feeling pretty good about this and realize we can actually win.

Me: Dude, we can do this. Just keep it up!
Guy: ...what?
Me: The boss is almost dead, just keep attacking!
Guy: I took the ladder up a few minutes ago. Are you still fighting that thing?

 :existential

I got summoned earlier and one of the guys had a jellyfish shield. It looked cool as fuck so as soon as we'd finished I Googled it. I expected it was going to be locked behind some boss fight but surprisingly, it's super easy to get.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 08, 2022, 09:55:25 AM
Thought I was good, then normal enemies start kicking my ass again :(
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Coax on April 08, 2022, 10:30:36 AM
World record speedrun (using glitches) now 12 minutes 32 seconds. Only one boss is needed to be fought (in Crumbling Farum Azula) using the latest method and it's remarkable given how underleveled they are at level 12 and the pressure of getting an entire run correct (the prior record holder a few days ago had a damageless run of the same boss, at level 23).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9O9BRLc0YA
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Tuckers Law on April 08, 2022, 05:43:13 PM
My mind while at work today:

https://youtu.be/0O445CcK0qY


My mind as soon as I get home and fire up Elden Ring:
https://youtu.be/LVREKUVRoEQ
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Coax on April 10, 2022, 08:55:30 AM
Beat the final boss. Good challenge.

Unbelievably when both the boss and I had the same sliver of health left it got me in its grasp... thought I was done for yet by some miracle I was still alive after it let go and immediately following received the defeated screen :mindblown  :ohhh

I'm thinking it may have died to a couple slashes by my Mimic before the final damage hit me so the game left me with my original health pre-grasp.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 11, 2022, 11:44:09 AM
To get all the endings

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I have use myself as kindling, but this can be reveresed?  Is there any chance to fuck up the reversal quest?
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Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 11, 2022, 01:06:23 PM
To get all the endings

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I have use myself as kindling, but this can be reveresed?  Is there any chance to fuck up the reversal quest?
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You don't have to do that to get all the endings.

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You can save Hyetta's questline until after Melina has already burned the Erdtree, and still get the Flame Frenzy ending. I didn't do it until after I'd already beat the Elden Beast.
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Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 11, 2022, 01:44:22 PM
Oh i have to do Hyetta's questline to get the ending?  I can't do that cause it's bugged out for me :(  I can't get the invasion at the church to happen.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 11, 2022, 02:11:39 PM
Oh i have to do Hyetta's questline to get the ending?  I can't do that cause it's bugged out for me :(  I can't get the invasion at the church to happen.

I'm not 100% sure, but I think you can still do it even if Hyetta is bugged, just by going to the final area of her questline.

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The area beneath the Subterranean Shunning Grounds, behind Mohg's altar.
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Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Coax on April 11, 2022, 02:16:01 PM
Oh i have to do Hyetta's questline to get the ending?  I can't do that cause it's bugged out for me :(  I can't get the invasion at the church to happen.

It's not necessary for the...

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Frenzied Flame ending from what I've read. The only condition is you obtain the mark from the Fingers underground. I did that before even beginning Hyetta's questline (which I completed following).
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As for what you asked earlier you'll need to (spoilered separately since it gets quite specific). I've done this. Also it can be done at any point provided the conditions are met.

Edit: an alternative would be to keep a separate save file before or after the final boss and then get the FF than trying to reverse it if you can't be bothered with the process. Initially I'd thought you'd already gone through with it.

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- Follow Millicent's questline. This requires meeting her at the church behind the Sellia town after interacting with Gowry at his shack in Caelid. After encountering her along the way a few times it culminates at the end of her questline with a choice to assist her in the Haligtree area, where you'll see two summoning signs (there's a gold and red one, choose the gold one). You'll receive an item.

I'd imagine you can begin her quest at any point and she'd just wait at the same locations or skip some, like other NPC questlines, though I'm not 100% certain.

- Then beat the Malenia boss and interact with the object left there to receive another item.

- Then beat the Placidusax dragon in the late-game area and use the item from the post-Malenia fight. It's doing this that reverses the Frenzied Flame mark (the scars will still show but can be hidden via the mirror in Fia's room in Roundtable Hold). To get to the boss it's best to look up a location guide once you're in Crumbling Farum Azula since it's an obscure process to get there.

Note that the item must only be used while in the dragon boss arena but the reversal can be done at any point (just remember to touch the site of grace in that dragon arena since you can't get back there otherwise). You can even reverse the mark after beating the final boss afaict (you can rest at the site of grace and do whatever before choosing an ending you've unlocked).
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Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Raist on April 12, 2022, 03:22:01 PM
I do wonder what exactly GRRM's contribution was.

Because everything screams Dark Souls with a touch of Bloodborne (/Lovecraft).

I'm guessing he took his sweet ass time, FromSoft just said fuck it and went ahead.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on April 12, 2022, 06:07:41 PM
he wrote high level lore / character stuff, finished before dev started. messy civil war between gods has his fingerprints all over it
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 13, 2022, 06:07:18 AM
I imagine he scribbled: "The Loathsome Dung Eater" on a paper napkin and that's all he did.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on April 13, 2022, 10:00:38 AM
For when the time comes to fight Malenia...
obviously spoilerish
https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/twhe86/simple_accessible_counter_for_malenias_waterfowl/?utm_content=title&utm_medium=post_embed&utm_name=6fdac0d3bc104372bc9799bbd8c945bd&utm_source=embedly&utm_term=twhe86
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Raist on April 13, 2022, 06:57:15 PM
messy civil war between gods has his fingerprints all over it

Have you heard of Dark Souls? :lol
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Rahxephon91 on April 14, 2022, 12:38:23 AM
Iíve been playing this primarily in co-op with a good friend.

It really does feel like most pure video game adventure ever.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 14, 2022, 08:51:12 AM
Thought you weren't feeling the game. The co-op friend acting as a good guide?
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on April 15, 2022, 10:35:12 AM
Snagged some time last night to get to the big bird rune farm.  Took only the 3 invasions to accomplish and made it.  I got slaughtered quickly in the invasions though.  Each one had co-op of 2 or 3 players, so I had no chance, but whatever.  Went ahead and boosted my lvl to about 85 and got to where I could use the sword of N&F.  Will probably continue farming some more to boost my hp and endurance...  We'll see.    This reminds me of Witcher 3, I exploited a glitch that leveled your character up quick just by running back and forth on a certain path that triggered xp.  Wanted to hit this up before it gets patched too...   

I just happen to be where I was looking for the Ronin guy when I started the invasions, and when I did my first invasion, it triggered into his quest and it happened right there instantly.  Not sure if a glitch or not, because the guy wasn't there initially, but I got the Raptor of Mist ash.... Now, I just need to figure out how to use it.  :lol
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Tuckers Law on April 15, 2022, 12:32:38 PM
That rune farm is dope, bless that stupid bird.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 15, 2022, 04:44:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33B3yw2EHPs
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 16, 2022, 08:16:32 AM
goddamn it, I missed picking up the Bolt of Gransax and now I can't :(
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 17, 2022, 02:22:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYDs_Inzkz4
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on April 18, 2022, 10:38:14 AM
I will go buy the PC version of this game right now if someone will mod the Frenzied Flame Tower to, when it's spreading Madness, they mod in Macho Man's face for the meter icon.  And when the flame bursts, it yells OOOOOOHHHH YEEEEAAHHH!!! and DIG IT!!
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 18, 2022, 01:27:06 PM
I like where your head's at but hear me out, what if the Madness meter was a Slim Jim?
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on April 18, 2022, 03:03:14 PM
I like where your head's at but hear me out, what if the Madness meter was a Slim Jim?
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/26BRBKqUiq586bRVm/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on April 18, 2022, 06:44:51 PM
goddamn it, I missed picking up the Bolt of Gransax and now I can't :(

you can blast through NG+ to this point in a few hours
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 18, 2022, 07:14:38 PM
Beat Malenia on the first try (then died a second later due to rot lol).  STILL COUNTS!

140 hours in, level 156. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 19, 2022, 03:18:14 PM
Done.  Did the three achievements endings.  Honestly one of my favorite games. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 19, 2022, 07:10:39 PM
My only complaint is that the bosses were not nearly as well fine-tuned as darksouls bosses on the whole.  It felt like you had to use summons for so many of them. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 19, 2022, 10:26:01 PM
You donít have to use summons on any bosses, you could just spend 5-10 hours searing all their attack patterns into your brain instead.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 19, 2022, 10:43:45 PM
I watched a streamer do just that, and you could tell how frustrating it was compared to her other Souls playthroughs.  The bosses in Elden Ring, especially at the end, just really punish you for healing and have some pretty spammy attacks if you are doing solo.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Supermanisdead on April 19, 2022, 10:59:51 PM
I didn't know that you could save and reload to get the different endings lmao. I'm on my third playthrough to get the third ending.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Polident Hive on April 19, 2022, 11:07:53 PM
afaik you canít in game. On PS5 it was uploading and downloading the cloud save.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 20, 2022, 11:07:22 AM
afaik you canít in game. On PS5 it was uploading and downloading the cloud save.

Similar on Xbox, except you can't manually backup your save, so you had to hard-close the game after each ending, and delete your local save.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Coax on April 20, 2022, 11:52:01 AM
The new patch makes the Malenia fight even worse lol

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She now regains health during various attacks even if she doesn't touch you
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Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on April 20, 2022, 12:05:34 PM
As long as they kept the bird farm running, it's all good.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Snoopycat_ on April 24, 2022, 02:49:01 PM
Not sure if itís my imagination but based on how long it takes to get summoned it seems like the player count is dropping
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 24, 2022, 04:33:04 PM
Probably, but doesn't it also have a +- 10 levels restriction when playing with randos?  Like I stopped getting summoned as soon as I got overleveled. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on April 24, 2022, 05:24:59 PM
Radahn down.  Interesting fight.  Totally hung back and just laid down arrow fire.  It took a minute to register that he was skating around on a mini limp horse. :lol Where do they come up with this stuff?

Bird farm still works, but it definitely doesn't run off as easy now.  Still the same amount of XP though.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 25, 2022, 10:44:47 AM
Radahn down.  Interesting fight.  Totally hung back and just laid down arrow fire.  It took a minute to register that he was skating around on a mini limp horse. :lol Where do they come up with this stuff?

Bird farm still works, but it definitely doesn't run off as easy now.  Still the same amount of XP though.

If you read the item lore, he learned gravity magic for the sole purpose of being able to continue riding his beloved horse, Leonard. :rejoice
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 25, 2022, 01:06:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ9RU7pznTs
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Snoopycat_ on April 25, 2022, 02:41:44 PM
Probably, but doesn't it also have a +- 10 levels restriction when playing with randos?  Like I stopped getting summoned as soon as I got overleveled.

Yeah, it does. Iíve got a lvl 40 character which is about right for Godrick. Used to get summoned within seconds now itís easily 5 minutes or longer
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: BrokenVerses on April 25, 2022, 03:05:50 PM
This game is insanely long. I was past the 80 hour mark when I finally got through Royal Capital.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on April 25, 2022, 08:17:52 PM
Radahn down.  Interesting fight.  Totally hung back and just laid down arrow fire.  It took a minute to register that he was skating around on a mini limp horse. :lol Where do they come up with this stuff?

Bird farm still works, but it definitely doesn't run off as easy now.  Still the same amount of XP though.

If you read the item lore, he learned gravity magic for the sole purpose of being able to continue riding his beloved horse, Leonard. :rejoice
(https://c.tenor.com/6FiuhTUXE-oAAAAC/pony-ride-back-ride.gif)
This game is insanely long. I was past the 80 hour mark when I finally got through Royal Capital.
It'll be the end of Summer by the time I finish this game.  I'm 65 hours in and still not done with Caelid.
 :dead
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Himu on April 27, 2022, 04:39:24 PM
This game is the best rpg in ages. Incredible work. I'm stuck and that's rad and part of the fun.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Tuckers Law on April 27, 2022, 05:13:44 PM
Iím over 100 hours in with no end in sight for my first playthrough.  Normally that kind of game size would turn me right off, but my explorer boner hasnít been this hard for a game since Breath of the Wild.  God tier game world by From.


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boss fights can be kind of shit though :/
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Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 27, 2022, 06:58:24 PM
https://www.trueachievements.com/n49459/elden-ring-endings-xbox

Ranni's ending is the most popular across all platforms. :uguu
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on April 28, 2022, 12:03:53 PM
This game is the best rpg in ages. Incredible work. I'm stuck and that's rad and part of the fun.
Was wondering/hoping you'd be on this.  :)
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on May 01, 2022, 02:36:57 PM
Going full swing through Ranni's quest right now ...  :whoo

Just got past..
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Phantom Blaaid.  He was giving me a bit of a hard time, but I found a nice cheese method of luring him behind the coffin to the left when you first enter that chamber.  At the right angle, he can't walk or attack past it so I just jump attacked the shit out of him.  About to trek across the giant rot pool/lake.
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Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on May 02, 2022, 03:20:25 AM
Ok.

Leyndell, Royal Capital is the most impressive area From has ever crafted tbh

Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 03, 2022, 06:42:35 PM
https://gfycat.com/unpleasantornerygrayfox-lord-of-the-rings-elden-ring-aragorn
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on May 06, 2022, 11:03:29 AM
Wow... Astel can kiss my ass.  I'm clearly doing something wrong, cuz I can't get it's health down any more than a quarter.   I'm level 109 too.  I watched some videos and don't see how everyone's lock-on seems more zoomed out than mine and dodge it's AOE attacks so perfectly.  Guess I'll attemp this again later on.  Was feeling quite confident, but that boss shat on it.  Guess it's time for me to trek on up to the northern Altus plateau area.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on May 06, 2022, 04:51:42 PM
I'm around level 55 or so and I want to head to the capital after completing the Academy and the Manor but the boss that blocks the 'cowards path' is kicking my ass in one of those crazy difficulty spikes.
Guess my options are to either grind, use the warp and go from the back to the front or try Caelid.  :doge
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 06, 2022, 08:29:25 PM
Caelid south before capital is the most common path.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Lonewulfeus on May 06, 2022, 11:54:20 PM
I didnít even know that was the cowards path, I just knew those red caves on the map had upgrade materials and ended up doing him around that level with the bloodhounds curved sword thing my first play through.  Use the pillar in the center of the room to block his charge attack in the first phase and then just get behind his legs for the second phase and dodge his big slow attacks, took me 5 or 6 tries but it was doable.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on May 07, 2022, 04:43:48 AM
The finger reader on the destroyed bridge tells you the two paths to the capital and mentions the canyon is the cowards path.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 07, 2022, 12:18:23 PM
Don't let those old lady's bully you. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on May 08, 2022, 01:18:51 PM
Trying to decide whether to head inside the Capital or venture NW towards Volcano Manor area... Need to get the map there still, so it makes me want to tackle it first.  Was intimidated with taking on two Tree Sentinels at once entering the capital, but trying my mimic +5 for the first time, we took them down with ease. 

Also took down Godskin tubby near the Volcano Manor.  Really dig that area.  Has more a condensed Souls vibe there..
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on May 08, 2022, 05:19:50 PM
I'm making some decent progress in South Caelid. This really shows how much you progress in the game.
Back when I first visited I got mauled by the first enemy. Now I can murder packs of them.

Lots of great gear to find in this area too.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Kevtones on May 10, 2022, 04:09:00 AM
So Iím not great at this game despite being a Souls vet. That said, I beat Godskin dude in the windmill town on my first try.

I got to the infamous duo tonight andÖ beat it on my first try without much concern. Like what?


I didnít even get hit very much and their moves were pretty slow. I took down the big dude and it honestly takes awhile to respawn to the point I was able to whittle down skinny.

Level 114. I guess my bleed build is pretty good.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Supermanisdead on May 11, 2022, 12:14:30 AM
they weren't that hard. i think a lot of people in the early days of the game rushed through and ended up being a little under powered or under-skilled for the later game bosses.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: benjipwns on May 11, 2022, 03:33:46 AM
https://twitter.com/Lucky_BunTTV/status/1523951823203311617
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: paprikastaude on May 11, 2022, 05:48:37 AM
 :neo
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 11, 2022, 09:11:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO9HmhwGzXs
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on May 11, 2022, 10:33:19 AM
After running spears and greatswords for 80% of the game, switching to Dex weapons is bonkers.

Sacred Blade's start up on a Greatsword is like 10x longer than Moonveil's weapon art. Rivers of Blood is in another universe for DPS.

Corpse Piler  :titus
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on May 11, 2022, 02:53:34 PM
https://twitter.com/Lucky_BunTTV/status/1523951823203311617
:pika
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on May 11, 2022, 05:38:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJCewQeCqWI
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on May 11, 2022, 06:09:31 PM
https://twitter.com/alex_moukala/status/1524340469001506816 (https://twitter.com/alex_moukala/status/1524340469001506816)
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on May 13, 2022, 03:13:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8pOcrJVnec
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 15, 2022, 02:57:21 AM
Finally sat down and started this.
Game is weird, not really knowing what I'm doing compared to other souls games. Just exploring around. Played like 3 hours.

I fought some cave madman who was super easy at the start. Then I got the summons and fought the 2 demi-dudes with adds in the coastal cave and beat them. Then I got to the roundtable and beat the red phantom guy there. Then I fought and beat Margrit the Fall because summons are so cheap. Lvl.19 now after getting his souls. Gonna explore around some more before going into the castle.

Horse feels kind of cheating? Because you can just run through sections to the next save point?
Summons feel super cheating. Basically Souls games were always like co-op = ez mode because the bosses were too dumb to target more than 1 person at a time and you just hit them in the back and avoid back attacks every so often. Summons are like that without having to wait for humans who will probably just fuck up anyhow. Like you can just not use summons and play like normal Souls games learning & beating the bosses, but gonna be so hard not to just spam summons after a couple deaths.

Since the game is so non-linear I have no idea when I'm supposed to fight bosses which I'm not sure I like. Even Margrit's 2nd half felt like I was doing very little damage with my +2 samurai sword (started as a samurai this run) though on the 1st half the damage seemed a lot more decent? There was also a black knight on a horse boss on the bridge at night that I was doing very little damage to and was basically just playing poke tactics on my horse of drive by stab and runs for a bit until I got bored and gave up.

Having trouble finding save points sometimes. Like I explore from the starting camp south across the bridge to the waypoint ruins and then even more south to the fort there which I infiltrated and got a large stabby sword and I didn't find a single save point until I crossed the bridge to the southern peninsula. Like I'm sure there were save points since there are tons of save points elsewhere, but it's so open I figure I'm missing them. Is there a way to tell if there's any save points nearby?

What's the best way to get smithing stones to upgrade early level weapons? I noticed the soldiers drop them on rare occasions. Otherwise I bought all 4 from the coastal merchant and found a few else in the world.

Also I'm not sure how I'm feeling about the open world from an art design variety perspective. Souls games were pretty varied area by area, but this whole Limgrave or whatever area just kind of all looks the same with some caves and coasts. Very large area without not a lot of visual variety.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Tuckers Law on May 15, 2022, 03:54:38 AM
Variety will come in due time for you.  In Breath of the Wild terms, Limgrave is the great plateau.

Running mines are probably your best bet for early smithing stones outside of buying them at shops.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 15, 2022, 05:33:00 AM
Yeah, I started finding some really nice looking areas already. Stormveil castle, Smoldering place, the underground river, etc...

Game has better graphics than I expected. Definitely best looking souls game.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on May 15, 2022, 06:07:43 AM
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What's the best way to get smithing stones to upgrade early level weapons? I noticed the soldiers drop them on rare occasions. Otherwise I bought all 4 from the coastal merchant and found a few else in the world.
In the tunnels and mines mostly but even those supplies are 'capped'.
Just buy them whenever Merchants have those in stock. Same with the Stonesword Keys.
Some of those bug upgrade things also carry them and they are scattered in the overworld, mostly around the edges of cliffs among skeletons on chairs and the ambushed merchant carts.

I found an optional boss about 50 hours in that dropped an item that allowed me to easily buy the lower level stones.

My main problem now is that I spend so many Ruins leveling Int so I could weild more special weapons and use different spells that my HP is seriously lacking.  :doge
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on May 15, 2022, 08:32:18 AM
What's the best way to get smithing stones to upgrade early level weapons?
On your map, there will be black spots with an orange outline. There is usually one or two in every main area. These are mining caves with smithing stones and upgrade materials.

Nevermind, Nintex beat me.  :P

Summoning can feel busted mostly because most of the early bosses are relatively easy. Later on is a different story and weaker summons will just be fodder. There is more than a few Ornstein and Smough situations or just overpowered bosses in late game that really feel like they were balanced for co-op or summon. And even then they are a challenge. I was well into the 4th area feeling like the game wasn't that hard...then I suddenly I ran into 2 or 3 bosses in a row that just wrecked my shit. A major wall for me were the
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Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on May 15, 2022, 01:20:24 PM
For someone who has very little time to play, and the game being so massive, the spirit summons are a blessing to me so far.  I need to move on, cheesing a boss or no .. there's always gonna be more tougher ones.  It's staggering how many bosses/creatures/enemies this game has... even when they repeat. 

That being said, as enthralled as I am with ER, it does make me appreciate the more focused and condensed Souls games... Open world games are crack cocaine to me... And it works in this Souls formula, but like BOTW, it does so many awesome things right, but feels slightly thinned out to missing some marks.  It's hard to put my finger on it what it is exactly... It's not glaring idiocy like easily breakable weapons and the inability to climb in shrines in BOTW, but more underlying issues, like balancing and rune distribution..
Granted, with a game this massive, it's still an extremely impressive feat they've compiled. 

Anywho, wrapping up Volcano Manor area.  Really like that area for some reason.. around every bend is screen shot worthy... Not that it's massive, but the art direction seems to be better thought out. 
LV 125 roughly.  Still using the N&F sword until getting.... Something else. Lol not sure yet. 

Here's a few recent screen snags...
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Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 15, 2022, 03:17:47 PM
Should you do everything in an area before moving to the next, or are there bosses, sections within an area that can be much higher level so you should leave them alone until later?

Basically is everything in an area i.e. Limgrave generally made for the same levelish?
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on May 15, 2022, 04:12:31 PM
Should you do everything in an area before moving to the next, or are there bosses, sections within an area that can be much higher level so you should leave them alone until later?

Basically is everything in an area i.e. Limgrave generally made for the same levelish?
It depends on the area but overall there should be plenty of things to do that are the same level.
It's usually the optional catacombs and caves that have enemies that are stronger or simply enemies on the field that should be avoided and have to be dealt with later.

I would've liked a better in-game log than just markers though, at some point you're sort of forced to write down things outside of the game to remember them.
There's also a lot of things that are tied into questlines that you get much later in the game.

Leveling isn't the only solution though, in some cases enemies have specific weaknesses and the summons work well too.

Biggest downside for me is that there's a lot of things that you can miss in the overworld. Especially in terms of NPC's and quests.
Not all of them stand out in the environment (some are even hidden on purpose). Sometimes I travel a road 3 times before spotting an NPC by the side of the road.

The other thing is that the lore is great but spread too thin and you hardly get stuff in order.
I think they should've taken that page out of BOTW's book as well by including some cutscenes to collect.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 15, 2022, 05:10:33 PM
What about alliances? All these NPCs early on are asking for alliances before I've even met most of them. If you say yes are you locked in until NG+? The other souls games are like 20-30 hours so it's not a huge deal but this is a lot longer to be locked in by a choice in the first few hours.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on May 15, 2022, 05:10:40 PM
Should you do everything in an area before moving to the next, or are there bosses, sections within an area that can be much higher level so you should leave them alone until later?

Basically is everything in an area i.e. Limgrave generally made for the same levelish?
It depends on the area but overall there should be plenty of things to do that are the same level.
It's usually the optional catacombs and caves that have enemies that are stronger or simply enemies on the field that should be avoided and have to be dealt with later.

I would've liked a better in-game log than just markers though, at some point you're sort of forced to write down things outside of the game to remember them.
There's also a lot of things that are tied into questlines that you get much later in the game.

Leveling isn't the only solution though, in some cases enemies have specific weaknesses and the summons work well too.

Biggest downside for me is that there's a lot of things that you can miss in the overworld. Especially in terms of NPC's and quests.
Not all of them stand out in the environment (some are even hidden on purpose). Sometimes I travel a road 3 times before spotting an NPC by the side of the road.

The other thing is that the lore is great but spread too thin and you hardly get stuff in order.
I think they should've taken that page out of BOTW's book as well by including some cutscenes to collect.
I agree.. even just having a log of said npcs and their last spoken dialogue would be extremely helpful to keep track.  For example, I just went through my key item tab and realized I had quest items of people I completely forgot who they were.. that's all we're really given.  The markers are a bit obtuse too where it's a bit awkward to mark a reminder... A portal stone, the marker I use is the person walking.. but a door I can't open yet, I use the treasure chest. The torrent wind lifts, I use the plant looking thing.   Guess its better than nothing.. Thank goodness the NPCs show on the map though now.  They weren't there at launch, iirc.

Otherwise yeah, there'll be plenty of enemies and locations in areas to come back to later.  Just the other night, I finally did the sewer area of Stormveil and fought the boss down there.  I wouldn't stress it... Just like the story; stuff will unfold as you journey on with many of opportunities to venture back to areas.  Fast travel on PS5 is quite fast, so that makes it nice.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 15, 2022, 05:13:53 PM
The most irritating thing about the game imo is the obtuse quest lines.

A quest log with hints on where NPC's are next etc would be a massive help, especially if you've gone off and done some other shit for hours
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on May 15, 2022, 05:18:13 PM
The most irritating thing about the game imo is the obtuse quest lines.

A quest log with hints on where NPC's are next etc would be a massive help, especially if you've gone off and done some other shit for hours
It's like, the elusive nature of the lore and world building is great allowing you to piece stuff together slowly, but when there's so much open world distracttion and fighting (which isn't a bad thing), yeah, it just feels spread too thin... almost too big, I hate to say. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 15, 2022, 05:32:12 PM
The most irritating thing about the game imo is the obtuse quest lines.

A quest log with hints on where NPC's are next etc would be a massive help, especially if you've gone off and done some other shit for hours

From 6 hours in, the worst thing is that you still can't fucking compare armor in the shop to your armor.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 15, 2022, 05:59:16 PM
Also where I'm at I'm not sure if the larger open fields are actually bringing anything to the souls formula? Like there doesn't seem much interesting stuff between interesting things and you just ride your horse. Like it feels like parts of Dark Souls which already had some larger fields with hidden secrets and connectors but just 10x as big so you get a fast horse to move 10x as fast if you want.

And from the first handful of bosses, I think one of my worries is that by having so many boss fights, they've basically neutered the souls boss fights. Like so many of these bosses are going to be completely forgettable nothings compared to the bosses in the other souls games which were generally all memorable. On top of that because there are so many boss fights, the rewards for defeating the bosses are much smaller nothings and less rewarding when you beat them.

Like I get there are major bosses which are more like the bosses in other souls games. Margrit the Fell was like that and paid out good souls on defeat like normal Souls bosses. But like The Beastman, Pumpkin Head or the Marinar grim reaper flying boat guy are just these zzz fights with nothing payouts and it feels a lot less satisfying for a souls game.

Still really digging this and think it's great, but I just have a feeling I'm gonna prefer the linear level design Souls games to ER.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 16, 2022, 12:00:16 AM
Found the first tough boss. Cannot beat Crucible Knight in the Stormhill Evergaol for the life of me. I'm not running a parry build and he has like no openings and kills me in 2 hits. I'm trying to finish everything in Limgrave 100% before moving on, but I might need to leave this guy for later.

And of course, the first boss that gives me trouble and there's no summons or coop allowed :|
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 16, 2022, 12:21:32 AM
I'm gonna give up and come back to this guy later. Spent like 90 mins straight on him and had one good run dodge roll and single hit poking and dodge roll until he was like 30% HP and then he did a full screen tail whip and killed me.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 16, 2022, 01:50:15 AM
Ok, 13 hours in and looking at the wiki I think I cleared everything in Limgrave except two stupid fights:

1. Crucible Knight cause fuck him

2. Ball Bearing Hunter I tried like 3 times and almost killed him but having to warp out and change time to night and warp back just for another attempt is tedious and like Crucible Knight he's an aggressive annoying melee kill you in a couple hits smasher that my dual katana build with zero magics at lvl.35 is just not well equipped to handle.

(https://i.imgur.com/0Xfw2anh.jpg)

Gonna go south and do the Weeping Pennisula and then the Stormveil Castle and then I'll give these two fucks another try. I really need to adjust my build to have some type of magic/ranged to deal with jerks like these.

Stats are something like 20VIT/20END/16STR/22DEX/8 everything else and rocking a +5 Uchigatana and a +3 one offhand generally and two-handing the +5 when I need to block and guard counter with it or I prefer its moveset. Just using Unsheathe still mainly.

Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 16, 2022, 04:08:01 AM
Hmmm, now that I'm making my way through Weeping Peninsula and seeing the copy & pasta, I don't know man...

It's like let's take Dark Souls/Bloodborne/Demon Souls formula which was pretty much perfect and let's make it BIGGER by...copy & pasting dozens of tombs, mines, caves that all look the same and let's have you fight the same bosses over and over except with ADDS or two at a time! And when you beat one of these mini-dungeons and kill the bosses you don't even get enough souls to gain a single level because we're going to have so many of them we can't have you character build progress too quickly!

Last part is the same issue I had with Horizon 1->2 where when you more than double the game length, it just means your character strength progression will go at half the speed, so if ER is like 3-4x as long as the other souls games it means you grow in strength 1/3rd or 1/4th as slow. Like I keep gaining levels but can't say I notice much of a difference a couple of levels makes in this, though tbf in the other souls games stat increases seemed about the same? Maybe it's that in the older Souls games weapon levels were 1-10 and apparently in this it's like 1-30 or something?

One thing I like is how elemental versions of weapons are handled where at a campfire you can instantly switch between blood/holy/keen/quality/etc..., the only issue being that until you have war arts in all the elements you're locked out of those. Like if I want to make a lightning or fire sword right now I've got no option. Eventually when I get all the elements that'll be nice and let me mix up the element of my weapon pretty regularly, wheraes in other souls games since you were fairly locked in it was like pick an element you want for your weapon this run and build towards it, so most of the time I need had a weapon that targeted an enemy's weakness.


But yeah, I'm already pretty sick of Catacombs. Just did the implaler one on the cliffside, then the mine in the peninsula woods, and now I'm at another catacombs under the Erd tree there. Also these copy & paste ruins all seems pretty whatever and mostly just jump over some walls with Torrent to find the stairs down and get the treasure and leave.

Just not sure if what I wanted out of my souls games was copy & paste. Makes me miss the tight level designs and unique boss fights of Sekiro.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: HardcoreRetro on May 16, 2022, 07:58:28 AM
I feel like you gotta treat some of the content like the Korok seeds in Breath of the Wild. You're not supposed to do all of it. The way some of you people are playing these games sounds like an absolute chore. Go to a new area or play one of the legacy dungeons that are actual the tighter level design you're used to from the older games.

Bigger problem plagueing the latter parts of the game is that not even the big bosses are exempt from the copy and paste stuff.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Tuckers Law on May 16, 2022, 09:18:17 AM
Yeah the game does have some copy and paste going on with those sections, although everyone now and then in true FROM fashion theyíll sneak a bit of trickery and fuckery to screw with your expectations on it.  Youíre not wrong with your criticisms though Bebpo, especially with weeping peninsula being your second region (it feels basically like an extension or Limgrave, and thankfully the other main areas at least look more diverse).

I do like the idea of comparing them to Korok seeds, theyíre sort of there to supplement the main experience and not really expected or needed to fully complete on any playthrough.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on May 16, 2022, 10:00:38 AM
Bebpo if you want a traditional Souls experience, you can absolutely play it that way. It will just involve heading straight for Legacy dungeons in each area and skipping a lot of the side content. If you 100% every area, you'll be much higher level, making the game a lot easier and probably exacerbating some of the issues you're having.

Elden Ring has some of the best dungeons and bosses in the entire series. Don't get too hung up on catacombs and side stuff if you're feeling your experience getting bogged down, because the core content is fantastic.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 16, 2022, 10:18:28 AM
I just look at the elden ring wiki for those smaller caves and catacombs and see if theres anything in there I want, if the big treasure is a staff or other weapon I don't use or want I'll skip it.

I suppose them taking about 10 mins to finish makes them more tolerable.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 16, 2022, 01:37:12 PM
Crucible Knights are a pain no matter where you are in the game.  There are also 2 of them in limegrave. 

I feel like you gotta treat some of the content like the Korok seeds in Breath of the Wild. You're not supposed to do all of it. The way some of you people are playing these games sounds like an absolute chore. Go to a new area or play one of the legacy dungeons that are actual the tighter level design you're used to from the older games.

Bigger problem plagueing the latter parts of the game is that not even the big bosses are exempt from the copy and paste stuff.

Ya I did most of everything but it was only because I enjoyed it.  It wasn't necessary by any means. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 16, 2022, 03:42:53 PM
It's not that the side stuff is necessary, but in every single past Souls game from Demon's to Sekiro, at least for me, a huge part of the fun has been the exploration of exploring every inch of the map and discovering every secret and finding every item whether it's something useful or not. They've been a real joy to explore full of rewarding secrets.

The exploration is very different here. There's still tons of secrets already, but what you find is just something you already found before most of the time and it's much less rewarding finding a new cave/catacomb/mine. You could say there's more exploration, but it's less rewarding. And so instead of exploration being A++ exciting, it's open-world genre C++ repetition just ok.

I guess I'll try ignore the side stuff for the first time in a souls game and just do the main path and maybe some stuff I run across along my way. At least until I can respec and use more stuff. My stats are really limiting so I can't use 90% of the gear I get and can't use any spells at all right now.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Polident Hive on May 16, 2022, 05:46:42 PM
I get where you're coming from. The couple legacy dungeons scratch that itch for me. But it's a different thing than the other games and they appeal differently. I know some fans still prefer Demon's Souls over the Dark Souls style and want them to return to level selection.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 16, 2022, 11:20:21 PM
Finished up the Weeping Peninsula and then beat the Bell Bearing Hunter and after like 30 mins beat Crucible Knight fucker. I used the stoneward key on the starting graveyard for the Fairfolk's Grave and fuck that trap thing. There's one bit across the skinny bridge where I don't see how it's possible to not eat a hit. Luckily I had enough HP to survive a hit and roll out of the way. Beat the boss at the bottom but the guy at the top, while not particularly hard kills me fast and I don't want to go through that trap shit over and over just to try him. Will come back way later and one shot him in case he drops anything useful.

I got that accessory charm that boosts vit/end/str/dex by like 3-5 or something and you just take more damage. Helped a lot in feeling stronger. ~lvl.41 now. Gonna go do Stormveil castle and then move on to the next area.

Also by the moving monastary I found the sorceress locked up but couldn't do anything. Guess I'll come back later.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 17, 2022, 12:44:49 AM
Stormveil Castle is pretty awesome. So huge and non-linear! I got lost and called it a night. Will try to figure out where to go next time.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 17, 2022, 02:30:10 AM
Actually gave it another run and figured it out and cleared out the place.

Compared to Crucible Knight, Godrick was a pushover lol. Definitely overleveled for this fight. Took like 2 tries just solo-ing it.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 17, 2022, 10:53:56 PM
Is it impossible to get invaded in this game unless you specifically put down a thing for PVP?

Now that I'm at the lake and learned about rune shards and great runes I finally started trying out MP by putting down coop signs on the bosses in Limgrave. Pretty fun and good way to get lots of rune shards and decent amount of souls.

Lake has nice art direction.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 18, 2022, 02:01:31 AM
Nm, read up on it and started using the tongue so I can be invaded at all times. Makes it more fun. Feels more Dark Souls now.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on May 18, 2022, 06:31:39 AM
Finally made it to
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It feels like I'm playing DLC pack 2 now, this game is unbelievable with the amount of content.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 18, 2022, 07:18:30 PM
Omenkiller is a jerk  :maf
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 19, 2022, 12:50:12 AM
I feel like the game does a pretty good job gatekeeping expected levels. Right now I'm like SL55 in Liurna and it takes foreeever to get a level with the xp payouts here. I need like 17/18k a level at this point and I'm only maybe like 1/3rd through exploring the lake out. Finished the eastern land route today but haven't done much of the western land route or the central lake yet though I did find a teleporter to the city and then the glintstone key and have access to the boss dungeon when I'm ready.

Having a lot of fun, though some gank moments like Omenkiller or that dumb regular enemy crucible knight near the divine tower. Ended up just arrowing the dude over and over. Oh and the stupid kiting magic arrow guy in the Divine Tower there was annoying when I was trying to melee him. Climbed up the rafters to try to get the jump on him before he teleports and he knocks me off the rafters and kills me. Next time I just arrowed him from a distance and was fine.

Still not really sure what magic is worth using as a melee build. I have plenty of resins to coat my weapons when needed. Hell outside fighting skeletons and using holy ashes of war I'm still just using unsheathe with dual katanas on a keen build. Not even focusing on bleed since some enemies you can't bleed and it feels like there's more and more of those.

At 30 hours in now, game is great, but just another game like Horizon 2 and AC Valhalla and a ton of others that make me keep feeling that I'd rather have a tightly designed 20-30 hour game than a 100 hour game at a slower more repetitive pace. Guessing Elden Ring 2 is a sure thing considering the sales. So more of this I guess.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Coax on May 19, 2022, 01:15:32 AM
Omenkiller is a jerk  :maf

The Storm Stomp ash of war I found useful for this. L2 to knock them off-balance momentarily with it then immediately follow up with a few R1 attacks.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 19, 2022, 06:01:24 AM
Took down the sauron eye of madness. That was an interesting challenge.

I kind of feel like lore-wise this game is some frankenstein algamation of all past Souls games in one. You have the dark fantasy lords, dragons and catacombs and stuff from DS, and the stars and madness stuff from Bloodborne. Sekiro..well the lore there was pretty unique, but some of the boss movesets definitely pull from Sekiro. Margrit is straight up a Sekiro-type boss.

I really dig the game at this point, but I do feel it's lacking an identity of its own.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: benjipwns on May 19, 2022, 02:13:21 PM
https://twitter.com/SkeleMann/status/1527094997190946817
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 19, 2022, 02:41:18 PM
Too bad Elden Ring wasn't a GaaS that sold 20,000 copies and has one (1!) concurrent player. All they need is for one more person to start playing and that's a 100% increase! :success
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on May 19, 2022, 03:18:05 PM
At least people are beating it....   ... :ryker
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Polident Hive on May 19, 2022, 03:48:42 PM
They said there will be DLC, yeah?

Shameful to admit I never played DLC for previous From games. Elden Ring is easier to jump back into. Iím interested.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 19, 2022, 06:06:40 PM
I do wish I played ER at launch just because the MP would be more active.

Given the sales, it's still pretty active, but sometimes I put down a coop sign at like Godrick and it can take like 10 mins to get summoned, other times it's like 30 seconds.

Normally I wouldn't care much, but since it's the main way to get Rune Shards to use the Greater Runes, being able to quickly farm lots of coop bosses to replenish Rune Shards is pretty useful though not necessary. Since Godrick I've been trying to keep my Greater Rune active all the time for the +5 stats but then I'll hit a gank point and die outta nowhere and lose it so I go back to Godrick and farm a couple.

Same with the PVP, I've been invaded like twice in the last 10 hours having the taunting tongue active at all times. Won both times \o/  I assume for PVP it's mostly just active in the endgame or NG+, and I assume most people summoning for co-op are in NG+ at this point.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 20, 2022, 12:42:28 AM
Went up the left side Liurna today and did Carian Manor. That was a pretty good dungeon, giant hands are fucking annoying melee if you're dealing with more than one at a time. At the four belfries took the first teleport to the ruins of whirlwind vortex city. I like these teleporters that give you a peak at later cool looking areas and you can get murdered by mobs way above your level if you want.

Had some good dungeon runs. Got my katanas to +12 or something and +8 for the 2nd one. Still haven't found a unique weapon I like yet so been saving all my somber stones. I kinda like the frost rapier I got in the ruins before the carian manor but the range is pretty shit even with the projectile slash.

Lost like 15k+ souls platforming in one of the mines :( Feels bad when you lose like almost an entire level's worth. I remember feeling good that I made it through all of Dark Souls 3 without losing a single soul. ER feels easier to fuck up and lose souls. This is probably the 3rd time I've lost some already in 33 hour or so. The other times were only like 5-10k though.

Now that I've fully explored the left and right side of the lake, gonna check out the main lake next and then do the boss dungeon. At SL61 or something, so going pretty good. I wish weapon upgrades/level upgrades didn't feel so insignificant on their own, but that's the price of a 100 hour game of character growth vs a 20-30 hour game. Like I'll gain 3 weapon levels and a 3-5 soul levels and barely notice the difference in damage output on current content. It's only when I go back to early areas I notice how much stronger I am.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 20, 2022, 04:28:57 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/iQmq0Egh.jpg)

Ended up getting to the Atlus Plataeu lol, still haven't done the lake dungeon yet or Caelid at all. Needed Smithing Stone (4)s for my Katana and the cave to the Plateau gives a ton of them so ended up doing that. Got my Katanas to +10 and +13 now.

I gotta say, I'm really digging the game and exploration now. It just took a while to click. Really like exploring out the lake and finding all the small stuff like the Prawn guy. It's a very fleshed out environment.

I'm kinda sad at how fast I'm blowing through this game, 48 hours since Saturday! Will be over soon and then I'll miss it. At least seems like Limgrave/Liurna are only about 2/5th of the game so even after I finish up Liurna's dungeon next time there should still be quite a lot of game left.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on May 20, 2022, 12:35:14 PM
You're gonna blow past me in a matter of days.  Granted I'm moving at a snails pace..   :doge
I really dig the game at this point, but I do feel it's lacking an identity of its own.
I kinda agree... As amazing this game is, and the astonishing achievement of what content they crafted here, it almost feels too much...  It feels like, every creature, enemy, location, weapons and armor that got scrapped from every other From game, was thown into this and then sewed together ... Granted, it's all beautiful at the same time... The scale is needed to help seperate these DLC quality chunks to make them more of the same world.  Almost feel like it needs a bit more character interaction for story purposes, but then that would take away from the elusive nature of it.  Nothing's perfect, but damn is this one of the greatest games ever made.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 21, 2022, 12:19:24 AM
Finished the Lake dungeon, that was really short compared to Stormveil. Got in and out in an hour. I feel like Carian Manor was more of a dungeon than this with a tougher boss.

Also being incredibly overleveled Rennela fight was like 60 seconds long and a joke even compared to Godrick. I'm also pretty confused at the lore because I thought Raya Lucaria was opposed to the Carian Family going by the story of Carian Manor. And Ranni is Carian Family I thought? Also this boss fight doesn't even make sense if you've met Ranni already and pledged to her alliance like I have.

Anyhow, gonna go do the underground area in Liurna and then the underground area in Limgrave and then head east and start on the scarlot rot area.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 21, 2022, 02:55:57 AM
Finished the half of the Ainsel river under Liurna that I can access for now and the Dragonkin boss, then did the Sofria Underground half that I can do right now and the 2 bosses (Dragonkin and Ancestral). Seems like I need to do Caelid area to access the other half of Nokron and further Ranni's plot to access the other half o Ainsel.

Also I liked the Ainsel river tunnel and Uhl Palace Ruins, but Sofria River was way too big and open and confusing with all the torch hunting (and what a terrible reward for finding all the torches), didn't really care for that area though the starbox looked pretty.

Got another few levels to SL70. Time to explore out Caelid!
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 22, 2022, 01:49:27 AM
Accidentally warped to the festival before exploring too much of Caelid. Will save that for later. Blaidd is like wtf you doing here, you missed meeting up with me.

Iím already hitting the second softcaps for stats. Definitely a bit overleveled but I still did plenty enough (enemy hit stunning me over and over and platforming deaths mostly). Once I hit 40 VIT, 40 END, 55 DEX Iím gonna start messing with more magic stats. Already with Great Rune + 5 and the + 3 seal Iíve got about 17-20 in them so I can use atk/def buffs and some weaker range spells though I prefer using my bow for range.

Also I donít think crafting is useless, I use the arrows and greases sometimes and used the bolossus until I had magic spells to cure poison/rot, buuuuut it does gut me when I think about how much xp total Iíve spent buying all these stupid cook books Iíll 95% never use.

Same with buying all the notes but I end up just discovering almost all of it myself just exploring.

But at the end of the day a few levels isnít going to make much difference.

Mostly just running the two +3/eatmoredamage seals and stamina recovery speed+ talisman. I donít really notice the extra damage Iím eating with even both seals on so it must be like 5% each or something.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 22, 2022, 11:53:02 AM
Whooped redhans bitch ass, I tried cheesing him but ending up making him eat shit by letting the summons distract him and smoked him up close (I'm fairly OP tbf)
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 22, 2022, 01:19:19 PM
Whooped redhans bitch ass, I tried cheesing him but ending up making him eat shit by letting the summons distract him and smoked him up close (I'm fairly OP tbf)

Fwiw the first few times I tried him he smoked me :tocry
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 23, 2022, 12:03:14 AM
Alright, did all of Caelid outside the dungeon boss (at the festival) and outside of fighting anything really in Dragonbarrow since it's a higher level area, or accessing the desert/beach since I can't access it yet.

Caelid was...pretty good! At first I wasn't sure about it since it's all just ugly rotten same-y looking and it's a much smaller map than Limgrave or Liurna. But it's got a lot of cool stuff and some great fights. Was fun to explore even if it only took about 1-2 days.

I do feel like this area was WAY harder than Limgrave/Liurna. Like bosses kept making me feel like I was underleveled even though I definitely am not! But so much shit just one-shots me or totally wrecks me. I feel like I'm doing good damage on the offense, but my defense feels out of whack.

I wonder if it's because I have a whopping 10 INT at SL79 still and INT is your magic defense stat, so any attack with magic is going to wreck me. But I don't want to put stats into INT since I don't use sorceries at all and I'm using FAITH for buffs  :'(

Like things that wrecked me in this area:

-Ezekyl The Scarlet Rot dragon. That Rot attack would basically one shot me unless I was faaaar out with my horse. Had to just get a few slices on the feet in and then back way off and then rush in between blasts.

-The Death Rite bird ground pound death fire explosion that has insane radius of the flames that shoot out literally one shots me and the time I beat him I just killed him before he could do that move. Every prior time I rolled/ran waaay the fuck out and I still got one-shotted each time by the flames coming out of the circle blast.

-Commander O'Neil in the swamp was pretty rough for my build since he has a ton of DEF and POISE. Ended up basically just kiting him with ashes of war projectile swings and then when he summoned people I'd run in and do a combo and get out.


I guess in the end it wasn't that bad and I cleared all that stuff along with the other bosses. Just felt tougher. Also I rode out to the giant Living Jar in front of the arena looking place in the canyon and fought one of the 3 red invaders and died and then I'm like wait those giant arrow guys respawn and if you run past them they'll shoot you during the fight with the invaders so you have to kill them each time?? No thank you.

Right now I'm saving those guys for later, the guy in the Folk Hero grave for later and there's a Crucible Knight on the 2nd Belfry teleport at the 4 belfries that you have to climb down to fight him each time and he's not hard but I just hate these fights that take time to get back to them after each death, so saving that guy for later too.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 23, 2022, 12:04:54 AM
Btw, the worst part of this entire game are the fucking weak enemies that do a shit ton of quick stabs in a row to lock you in hitstun and if you're mounted lock you and your horse in hitstun and then kill your horse and then kill you when you're down.

The puppet soldiers and dogs are super fucking annoying. I got jumped by like 4 dogs in one of the ruins south of the dragon church in Caelid and fucking killed me with just never ending hit stun :| 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Coax on May 23, 2022, 02:41:55 AM
Also I rode out to the giant Living Jar in front of the arena looking place in the canyon and fought one of the 3 red invaders and died and then I'm like wait those giant arrow guys respawn and if you run past them they'll shoot you during the fight with the invaders so you have to kill them each time?? No thank you.

You don't need to defeat the rock giants in that valley. Just ride past them until you speak to the Living Jar which spawns the invader signs. I've never found their arrows hit once I'm on the hill after riding past them, since it's blocked by roots/terrain.

Btw, the worst part of this entire game are the fucking weak enemies that do a shit ton of quick stabs in a row to lock you in hitstun and if you're mounted lock you and your horse in hitstun and then kill your horse and then kill you when you're down.

For my run I wore high poise armor with a Strength/Faith build and it allowed tanking more hits and I think it helped with such stunlocking though tbf I didn't do side-by-side comparisons.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 23, 2022, 04:41:26 AM
Finished Starscourge. Weird fight, but I guess it's kind of different for Souls.

Also I'm getting a lot of the lore but I'm also getting confused on bits like I thought Radahn and Radagon were the same person until this fight. Gonna wrap up a couple caves and the tomb down here on the beach and then get to the Nox city & Atlus Plat.

Also I rode out to the giant Living Jar in front of the arena looking place in the canyon and fought one of the 3 red invaders and died and then I'm like wait those giant arrow guys respawn and if you run past them they'll shoot you during the fight with the invaders so you have to kill them each time?? No thank you.

You don't need to defeat the rock giants in that valley. Just ride past them until you speak to the Living Jar which spawns the invader signs. I've never found their arrows hit once I'm on the hill after riding past them, since it's blocked by roots/terrain.

Nah, I went back to get my runes after dying once and I got hit by an arrow at that spot.

It's fine, later on when I'm stronger I'll just take out the two arrow guys and then take out the 3 invaders. Almost killed the invader I fought but they did that magic spinning blade shield while I was combo-ing into them and pretty much killed me.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 23, 2022, 06:33:21 AM
Cleaned up the remaining couple things in Caelid (triple Crystalian fight was suck), and grabbed Starscourges chestpiece armor since was a pretty nice def stat upgrade compared to what I had. Still barely staying under medium load so it's fine. Cleared out the remaining teleports at four belfries. Even at SL82 with this armor and having fought like 3 crucible knights already, this dude at the 2nd teleporter was a huge pain in the ass. Beat him this time but was pretty close.

It sucks in Dragonbarrow that if you grab the painter location there's no way back outside teleport from map. Then there's this endgame golem guy and if you aggro it you can't map so you're just doomed. Had to use one of my few sacrificial twigs since I had a decent amount of souls on me. Dragonbarrow stuff is definitely way beyond my current levels/gear since it's endgame stuff.

Looking forward to chasing the comet and advancing that story.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 23, 2022, 06:38:06 AM
The crow dudes at dragonbarrow are a good rune farm and fairly easy as long as you backstab/pick them off one by one and don't aggro more than 2.

Btw I think you might have fucked up a quest if you killed who I think you did.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on May 23, 2022, 09:55:53 AM
Done, 120 hours.

10/10

I still prefer bloodborne for combat reasons, but this is undoubtably a more impressive endeavor overall. The level design usually drops off further into these games (Dark Souls 1 especially) but not here. Haligtree and Farum Azula were pretty tightly designed and had a lot of hidden secrets and pathways. I didn't mind the Mountaintops of the Giants, I heard a lot of complaints beforehand but it seemed fine. Enemy repetition did start to drag it down a bit towards the end but wasn't a deal breaker by any means.

The sense of scale in this added so much to believability of the world. Finally getting to the high walls of Leyndell and eventually walking though the city was like journeying to Minas Tirith or Falconia. A grand and mythical place that also felt lived in and real. The scale, level design and art design really puts so many other devs to shame.  From really is the best in the biz  :tocry
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 23, 2022, 09:46:44 PM
Man, the two valiant gargoyles feel fucking impossible for my build at my stats. Been trying 30 mins and canít even kill one. One would be a tough enough boss.

Also no human MP available and summons die too fast.

Maybe Iíll come back later. The crucible knights before this were a pain as always as well.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 24, 2022, 12:21:21 AM
Finished Eternal City outside that fight, was a pretty good sizeable area especially combined with the lower Soifra River portion. Basically a full DLC size. Finished that quest and the upside down tower was neat.

Finally started the Atlus Plateau and ran past every enemy & boss in the map on my horse collecting the 3 maps. Seems pretty huge with a ton of content. I guess I was expecting something smaller since I heard the back half of the game is less open-world and more just linear Souls dungeons and boss rushes. Gonna take me some time to explore this place out.

This was my best run on the Gargoyles after like an hour before I gave up (I didn't edit the video so you can skip the first 40 seconds):

https://youtu.be/phDeU0wVH1I

Still used the wrong summon when the second one showed up and also after I killed the first one I had no idea how to dodge the attacks of the 2nd one because I'd spent the whole hour learning the attack patterns of the first one :| 

One of my issues with the fight is my katanas are too short ranged and I miss like 1/2 the time. I feel like when I come back to this later on I might wanna level up a longer reach weapon like a halberd or something and try with that. Or use spellcasting with a respec. When they spray the poison they are wide open if you are a ranged fighter to get damage in safely.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Coax on May 24, 2022, 12:30:12 AM
Ended up getting to the Atlus Plataeu lol
Finally started the Atlus Plateau

It's almost embarrassing how long it was before realizing it was Altus Plateau. I was like :ohhh
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 24, 2022, 01:45:11 AM
Saw that the D questline opens up a summon for the gargoyles, so I tried it a few more times with that.

(https://i.imgur.com/CuGGrhDh.jpg)

fuck
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on May 24, 2022, 11:20:17 AM
Yup. Gargoyle fight was a big wall for me too, even properly leveled it can be a tough one to crack.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 24, 2022, 09:54:59 PM
Cleared out Noskstella Eternal City #2 and everything in Lake of Rot outside the Dragonkin boss cause yeah I'm not doing that will losing HP heavily from Rot right now and the Grand Cloister at the end of it outside fighting the optional tree root mini-boss. Seemed anti-climatic that all there was at the end of Lake of Rot/Grand Cloister was a scorpion sword? I'm guessing maybe this stuff has more significance later in the story.

*edit* oh, apparently the coffin at the bottom takes me to an endgame boss. Probably too early to attempt this for me.

Both these Eternal City maps were good DLC sized areas with solid design. Also those groups of metalic blobs in city #2 give a decent amount of souls. Quick run through seems like 10-20k.

At SL91 now, swords are like +15 and +18.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 25, 2022, 12:12:35 AM
I tried Astel and ended up beating him on my first try so I finished up Ranni's quest already (Baleful Shadow was hard but I just learned his couple of attacks and baited them and then got a hit or two in and backed off and repeat) before really doing much in the Atlus Plateau yet. Did a couple tombs/caves and started Volcano Manor hunts and that's about it so far.

I'm guessing finishing Ranni's quest locks you into an ending? Seems pretty definitive though I'm still hazy on a lot of the story since I haven't seen the stuff that goes on after Atlus.

Hit SL97. I'm past the first softcap for VIT and second for DEX and there isn't anything that's too heavy to equip right now. Not really sure what to be doing with stats from here. With the Dex talisman and Godrick's Great Rune I have like 46/47 VIT, 36 END, 56 DEX, 17 FAITH (for ATK buff and lightning strike). I guess I can just keep putting levels into VIT/END/DEX until they hit the final cap.

Also Blaidd's story is pretty depressing.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 25, 2022, 12:44:57 AM
I'm guessing finishing Ranni's quest locks you into an ending?

Nah, after the final boss fight, you get to decide whether to help Ranni or not.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 25, 2022, 06:52:14 PM
As much as I really dig the game, at this point it's become every open world game out there where it's a bit of a checklist game. I literally have a text file that is a checklist of stuff to do, to figure out a good order to get things done.

It's like you got your Rise turtle puzzles, your Minor Eldtree Avatars, your mines, your catacombs, your ruins. It's all good but it's very much an open world game of just doing the same kinds of things over and over and over again. I don't mind it because they're all enjoyable activities, and getting XP and gaining levels feels like worthwhile progress, but game definitely is feeling like it's run out of a lot of "new" stuff at this point and is pretty much just same stuff over and over for dozens of hours. The new stuff is basically the legacy dungeons or linear areas like the Eternal Cities.

I think the only repetitive thing I don't actually like is I think they ruined Dragons in this game compared to every other Souls game. Every dragon fight is exactly the same. Horseback battle, ride up by the leg and stabby stab, move out of the way and back when stomps and run out of the way when flame stuff is happening. They're not really challenging. Even if you die it's because you're underleveled and taking too much damage and not doing enough. But they're boring fights that all play the exact same. Not what I wanted from Dragons which are like mainstay impressive fights since Demon Souls. The Scarlet Rot dragon was a little unique in that giant rot clouds, but it just meant more running by horse and back again.

I generally think all field mounted combat fights are terrible and unchallenging and unstrategic for a souls game tbh. But some enemies are such pain in the asses if you aren't mounted so you pretty much gotta mount. Like I fucking hate the giant red wolves that are on the field. I think I died like 10 times on the one in Eternal City #2 and then I got on my horse and fought it and beat it on the first try. Wolf jumps OVER your ass and out of range for melee, so like the only time you can even get a fucking hit in is when it does the 3 bite combo which is rare. Meanwhile it's just laser spamming and jumping at you back and forth.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 26, 2022, 01:02:03 AM
I'm like "oh wait the full-grown falling star beast gives 5 Smith Stone(6)s??" from doing stuff ahead of my levels I have tons of 7s/8s already and that would push me into 7s.

30 mins later of fighting that guy...UGHHHHH

Ended up beating him, but since he was immune to bleed and all I have weapon leveled are two basic ass katanas at this point that was a very hard horseback fight of trying to get him poisoned here and there and just getting tiny hits in while dodging EVERYTHING.

Pretty much every move is easily dodgeable on horseback once you learn them except the stupid rock spray throw which is fast and has a huge radius and tended to kill my horse each time :|

Even when I beat it after 30 mins, was close.

But hey, got my katana from +17 -> +23 afterwards haha. But now my powerstance other katana is stuck at +17 so I'm not sure if it's still better DPS to powerstance a 17/23 weapon or just 2H the 23 weapon. Seems like 900 physical vs 750 physical (2H) so powerstance still seems better.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: paprikastaude on May 26, 2022, 06:34:53 AM
As much as I really dig the game, at this point it's become every open world game out there where it's a bit of a checklist game. I literally have a text file that is a checklist of stuff to do, to figure out a good order to get things done.

It's like you got your Rise turtle puzzles, your Minor Eldtree Avatars, your mines, your catacombs, your ruins. It's all good but it's very much an open world game of just doing the same kinds of things over and over and over again. I don't mind it because they're all enjoyable activities, and getting XP and gaining levels feels like worthwhile progress, but game definitely is feeling like it's run out of a lot of "new" stuff at this point and is pretty much just same stuff over and over for dozens of hours. The new stuff is basically the legacy dungeons or linear areas like the Eternal Cities.

I think the only repetitive thing I don't actually like is I think they ruined Dragons in this game compared to every other Souls game. Every dragon fight is exactly the same. Horseback battle, ride up by the leg and stabby stab, move out of the way and back when stomps and run out of the way when flame stuff is happening. They're not really challenging. Even if you die it's because you're underleveled and taking too much damage and not doing enough. But they're boring fights that all play the exact same. Not what I wanted from Dragons which are like mainstay impressive fights since Demon Souls. The Scarlet Rot dragon was a little unique in that giant rot clouds, but it just meant more running by horse and back again.

I generally think all field mounted combat fights are terrible and unchallenging and unstrategic for a souls game tbh. But some enemies are such pain in the asses if you aren't mounted so you pretty much gotta mount. Like I fucking hate the giant red wolves that are on the field. I think I died like 10 times on the one in Eternal City #2 and then I got on my horse and fought it and beat it on the first try. Wolf jumps OVER your ass and out of range for melee, so like the only time you can even get a fucking hit in is when it does the 3 bite combo which is rare. Meanwhile it's just laser spamming and jumping at you back and forth.

I've recently played DeS and am currently replaying BB and you simply can't beat their tight campaign design with open world. ER might have the most jampacked and impressive fantasy open world yet, but it's still a far cry from having the density of unique content of prior games.

The "stand out" open world games these days only delay copy-paste-fatigue, instead of overcoming it. I.e. Zelda felt refreshing for a little longer than your typcial Ubi/Sony open world, because it removed the handholding. Fascination with its world still wore off quickly when all those copy pasted dundeons, enemy camps and generic loot became blatant once again. The amount of content Elden Ring is insane, it takes like 20 or 30 hours before repetition becomes truly noticeable, but it will come sooner or later.

The philosophy of size over content drags open world down the most. Like, ER should have just stopped right before the snow area and instead flesh out prior areas even further.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on May 26, 2022, 04:11:09 PM
Finished Eternal City outside that fight, was a pretty good sizeable area especially combined with the lower Soifra River portion. Basically a full DLC size. Finished that quest and the upside down tower was neat.

Finally started the Atlus Plateau and ran past every enemy & boss in the map on my horse collecting the 3 maps. Seems pretty huge with a ton of content. I guess I was expecting something smaller since I heard the back half of the game is less open-world and more just linear Souls dungeons and boss rushes. Gonna take me some time to explore this place out.

This was my best run on the Gargoyles after like an hour before I gave up (I didn't edit the video so you can skip the first 40 seconds):

https://youtu.be/phDeU0wVH1I

Still used the wrong summon when the second one showed up and also after I killed the first one I had no idea how to dodge the attacks of the 2nd one because I'd spent the whole hour learning the attack patterns of the first one :| 

One of my issues with the fight is my katanas are too short ranged and I miss like 1/2 the time. I feel like when I come back to this later on I might wanna level up a longer reach weapon like a halberd or something and try with that. Or use spellcasting with a respec. When they spray the poison they are wide open if you are a ranged fighter to get damage in safely.

if you want uchi but longer go search up a nagakiba. you can get two in one play, but you're probably already past that point

it's basically the same as the uchi but better in every way

also, those gargoyles are intended as later game content. if you're having issues, basically upgrading any decent spirit trivializes them
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: naff on May 26, 2022, 04:16:24 PM
The philosophy of size over content drags open world down the most. Like, ER should have just stopped right before the snow area and instead flesh out prior areas even further.

they should have combined snowfields and mountaintops into one area. together, there's a lot of cool content, could have hidden haligtree et al through a difficult to navigate blizzard that was accessible straight from the area, and had the entrance to mohgs and other caves and camps that were part of the snowfields all bundled into mountaintops. as it was, both areas had some cool stuff but felt a bit undercooked. the snowfield content is harder, but dividing it by area and making it a clearly optional path/detour from the forge would've made the last area feel much more ominous and awe inspiring imo.

i don't think mountaintops was all that bad as a desolate snowy wasteland you can zip through on torrent, but it could've been a lot better
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 27, 2022, 04:50:07 AM
Finished exploring out the Atlus Plateau outside Shadow Castle which I'm gonna do next, and a bit of Volcano Manor left and Leyendell city itself. Was generally same old same old but pretty fun stuff.

I'm definitely OP for this area, so pretty much killing a lot of bosses before they get off more than an attack or two. Go to right now is flame strengthen me magic -> roar physical atk up -> perfume atk up -> mixed physic dex up which gets me something like 1,500 atk or so going into fights which destroys stuff pretty well. Also summon my +8 mimic tear buddy if I need help and the two of us wreck everything.

On defensive side still pretty glass cannon, there were a couple of skeletons to the cliff on the left upper from looking at Leyendell's outer wall who have these giant scythe glaives and fuckers would do like 40% HP damage per hit, so 3 hits would kill me with like 47 VIT. But outside a few enemies that hit real hard like this, doing ok with my VIT stats.

Lvl.108 now about 80 hours in. Looking forward to finally going into Leyendell city and the Eld Tree and seeing what's up.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on May 27, 2022, 08:59:38 AM
Finished exploring out the Atlus Plateau outside Shadow Castle which I'm gonna do next, and a bit of Volcano Manor left and Leyendell city itself. Was generally same old same old but pretty fun stuff.

I'm definitely OP for this area, so pretty much killing a lot of bosses before they get off more than an attack or two. Go to right now is flame strengthen me magic -> roar physical atk up -> perfume atk up -> mixed physic dex up which gets me something like 1,500 atk or so going into fights which destroys stuff pretty well. Also summon my +8 mimic tear buddy if I need help and the two of us wreck everything.

On defensive side still pretty glass cannon, there were a couple of skeletons to the cliff on the left upper from looking at Leyendell's outer wall who have these giant scythe glaives and fuckers would do like 40% HP damage per hit, so 3 hits would kill me with like 47 VIT. But outside a few enemies that hit real hard like this, doing ok with my VIT stats.

Lvl.108 now about 80 hours in. Looking forward to finally going into Leyendell city and the Eld Tree and seeing what's up.
This is about where I'm at in my playthrough.  Haven't played in over a week for being out of town.  :-\
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 27, 2022, 07:03:12 PM
This is the first souls game where I feel kind of bad about stuff?

Like every time I help out an NPC with a quest it usually just ends with their dead body. Would've been better if I left them alone. And like in Leyendell and stuff these are just like city defender soldiers and I'm going around murdering them all? Feels kind weird.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 28, 2022, 04:05:42 AM
Spent the night doing Lyndell. That city was fucking huge. Good dungeon, makes your hands sweat.

But like Stormveil kinda confusing and easy to get lost and exploring every inch and finding all the treasures took a lot of time but was pretty rewarding. Fuck all those crucible type knights.

Also tbh, I think I was expecting a little more story-stuff than you get there.

Got to the Forbidden Lands, will pick up there next time. Good stuff. Game is big.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 28, 2022, 04:46:45 AM
Also I gotta say that even all these hours in with the repetition, my favorite part of ER are...the catacombs  :doge


Sure they're just chalice dungeons, but they're pretty well designed and some are clever (I did the Azuri~ one outside Lyndell tonight with the teleport chests and I was lost and then I got it and was like oh, that's clever).

The mines are way too similar and caves are like halfway between mines & catacombs, but the catacombs all feel pretty unique even if they mostly visually look the same.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 28, 2022, 05:15:32 PM
RIP Boc  :cry
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on May 28, 2022, 06:05:55 PM
Did you at least tell him he was beautiful?

 :fbm
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 28, 2022, 06:55:37 PM
Did you at least tell him he was beautiful?

 :fbm

I did not.

Wasn't following a guide, and I was like "hey that's a really unsatisfying end to the quest. You don't even get any items from his dead body!" so I looked it up and read about that :(

Too bad, I liked Boc. If I ever do a NG+ I'll get him to survive.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on May 28, 2022, 07:34:02 PM
I'm way too weak for Lyndell, everything kills me in basically one hit 5 feet from the doors.

Unsure what to do next, guess I'll start looking for my boi Blaidd who was searching for a lost city or something.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 28, 2022, 09:58:29 PM
Was looking at Atlus Plateau to see if I missed anything and man, the Catacombs in Leyndell itself are pretty well hidden. Totally missed them. Time to do that.

Also did not like the Subterranean Shunning Grounds too much. Way too easy to get lost in the tunnels and having to purposely drop through pits to find the right ones to get anywhere is :| Plus those ogres are annoying as fuck. Lost 30k souls at one point :(

I'm way too weak for Lyndell, everything kills me in basically one hit 5 feet from the doors.

Unsure what to do next, guess I'll start looking for my boi Blaidd who was searching for a lost city or something.

Do you mean arrows? Because heavy arrows are always pretty damaging and you just gotta roll.
But also yeah you shouldn't be getting one shotted by an arrow or catapult. What's your vigor stat right now?

The lost city stuff with Blaidd is easier than Leyndell for sure outside one of the optional bosses and it'll get you some levels and stones for upgrading your weapons. Definitely worth doing first.

What weapon level is your weapon?
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 28, 2022, 11:36:31 PM
Ok, what the fuck at these ice swordpeople at the start of the mountaintop area.

I think I might need to go respec into a ranged magic user. Even with Flame Art builds of katanas and using Flame ashes and imbues I cannot beat 2 of these guys at a time without burning through like 10 flask. The difficulty jump from Leyndell and the earlier parts of the game is insane if these are normal enemies at this point.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 29, 2022, 12:58:54 AM
Figured out their moveset and can take them pretty well. Again the issue is my katana range is shit so sometimes I dodge roll x 2 their two attacks and do my L1 and it misses them because the reach is a bit too short. Still, easy enough area to farm since they're 5k each.

Did a bunch of the Mountaintop and I kind of hate this area. It's really empty and boring and open and because it's for GIANTS it just means you move slow through it and between stuff.

Also I feel like I'm underpowered again on the east side. Like the frost dragon in the ice lake I'm doing jack shit damage and it would take so many freaking hits and it kills my horse in like 1-2 hits and kills me about the same. I did the last Volcano Manor request against the blood whip guy and beat him but he was a real pain in the ass with his teleport dodges.

I do wonder if it's time now at 85 hours in to start using a better weapon than the basic ass katana. I have a ton of somber stones to upgrade a special weapon to close to max and I feel like a special weapon would be better at this point.

Turned it in and now I'm fighting Rykard and ugh, gimmick fight. Why do I have to use this big heavy slow sword. Oh well, will strip naked to I can actually fucking roll and do it.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 29, 2022, 01:19:55 AM
Ok, Rykard was pretty joking easy with the R1 lane stab. Was using the L2 one at first which has a long windup.

Back to mountaintops.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 29, 2022, 01:36:27 AM
Also I feel like I'm underpowered again on the east side. Like the frost dragon in the ice lake I'm doing jack shit damage and it would take so many freaking hits and it kills my horse in like 1-2 hits and kills me about the same. I did the last Volcano Manor request against the blood whip guy and beat him but he was a real pain in the ass with his teleport dodges.

Looked up to see why I seem so weak against Boraelis the Freezing Fog Dragon here only to find dozens of posts on him and people saying he's one of the top3 most difficult bosses in the game if not the #1 because of the camera. Apparently there were some cheese but they've been patched out. Just seems like you gotta do it same as every other dragon get a couple hits in and run away, repeat, except it takes forever with this guy and one fuck up kills you. Will save him for end game.

I do feel like endgame here is starting to favor magic ranged builds. Might go respec all of my DEX into Faith or INT and try a spell build for a bit. Have like 10 larvel tears so can experiment. Though I'd need to upgrade a seal/rod for the scaling. I have some great magics, but I'm damage capped on my melee weapons until I get a bunch more Smithstone 8s, which apparently aren't frequent until the vortex city place even further in.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 29, 2022, 03:29:08 AM
Also when I was looking up that stuff, I googled whether magic or melee is stronger for endgame and got a ton of results that say for pure melee builds, this is the worst souls game in terms of viability and that pure melee is fine and manageable for early/mid game but for endgame magic vastly outpowers melee and is much better for most of the endgame bosses.

Damn. I mean I can respec and I got enough somber stones to level int/faith weapons, but means changing 85 hours of muscle memory and learning how to play a ranged magic build at this point.

Ehhh, I think I'm too lazy and until/unless I hit a real wall I'll just stick to my pure melee with some buffs powerstance katanas.

If I really get stuck at some point in endgame though I'll respec to magic.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on May 29, 2022, 05:02:50 AM
I got a +17 Cold Zweihander as my strongest weapon right now. Blood Hound Fang at +5 and some type of Arcane Blade at +5. My Blood Katana is +7 for humanoids. For Magic a +4 Demi Human Staff and +5 Wolf ashes.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 29, 2022, 05:05:55 AM
I got a +17 Cold Zweihander as my strongest weapon right now. Blood Hound Fang at +5 and some type of Arcane Blade at +5. My Blood Katana is +7 for humanoids. For Magic a +4 Demi Human Staff and +5 Wolf ashes.

That's a nice spread. I've honestly never thought of having 2ndary or 3rd backup weapons to switch between based on what I'm fighting. Seems like a great idea. Especially once you can buy stones close to your current weapon level.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on May 29, 2022, 07:02:16 AM
The weapons also have different skills which comes in handy. The Frost Stomp for example or the Blood Slash. I'd like to experiment more with different ashes of war though so maybe I'll have to upgrade a couple of vanilla weapons too.

For spells I was just spamming fire balls for the longest time, the Glintstone Arc is my go-to spell now because you can easily destroy groups and it stuns most enemies.
What's making me weak right now is my lack of Vigor (I basically need to be able to absorb more hits) and I never leveled any shields after finding the Carian one.

I also looked up the recommended levels for the areas again, in that sense it makes sense that Leyndell is kicking my ass. Seems like there's more to find on the Altus Plateau in the area in between the mountain and the Plateau.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 29, 2022, 07:56:02 AM
I've been spoiling myself and reading a lot about endgame and I gotta say it's real bullshit the two balance patches have nerfed really good moves.

Like now you find any old thread on these endgame bosses and they all say use Mimic Tear, Hoarfrost Stomp, Swarm of Flies, ez mode. But all that's nerfed now.

I just think that people lttp getting a harder game than people who played at launch is fucked up in a Souls game.

I'm really not looking forward to Melania since it sounds like a brutal fight and everything that worked to make it beatable in under 50 tries no longer works.

It's weird because outside Orphan of Kos, I don't think Demon Souls, DS1-3, Bloodborne have any real brutal take you hours/days of retries bosses. Even Kos ain't too bad. With Sekiro they stepped up their boss challenge level and ER's endgame sounds like that but while dealing with the worse input lag and less tight controls than Sekiro.

So far outside the dual gargoyle fight, I haven't found any of the bosses brutally hard, but this endgame sounds nasty. Everything outside Melenia sounds doable. Not sure if I'll be able to beat her. Sekiro was the only Souls game I had to give up at the very end because I just can't react fast enough to deal with it and Melenia sounds similar to that.

At least they haven't nerfed Bloodhound Step yet and that sounds like it gives enough iframes in dodge to at least put you back on Sekiro mobility for a fight like that. Will be doing Dragonbarrow soon and will grab that.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on May 29, 2022, 02:29:46 PM
I went to Mt. Gelmir to get the map but the boss there one hit killed me so I got back to the castle in Caelid to see if I was strong enough now.
Where I'm sure there was a double boss before they had been replaced by Blaidd. I guess there's multiple approaches to this fight depending on the quests you do(?)

Managed to beat the General (that was a crazy epic fight btw. Holy shit. All the bois tho, RIP :fbm)

That fight apparently unlocked
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the stars, a meteor strike and now I'm heading down Nokron
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Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 29, 2022, 05:30:08 PM
There's two versions of the castle. Once you activate the festival by stepping onto the Atlus area or talking to Selvus in Ranni's quest the festival starts and the castle is empty and boss is gone.

After you beat Radahn, if you go back to the festival and talk to the guy and then leave the area it'll return to normal with enemies and open doors to explore and a boss fight.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Coax on May 29, 2022, 11:56:04 PM
Like now you find any old thread on these endgame bosses and they all say use Mimic Tear, Hoarfrost Stomp, Swarm of Flies, ez mode. But all that's nerfed now.

I just think that people lttp getting a harder game than people who played at launch is fucked up in a Souls game.

I'm really not looking forward to Melania since it sounds like a brutal fight and everything that worked to make it beatable in under 50 tries no longer works.

Radahn was often considered the most frustrating boss pre v1.3 due to the RNG which would screw over people. That said I also played him pre v1.3 and was overleveled for it so it was fairly easy. I literally waited so long since I'd read so much shit about him that turned out irrelevant for my build/level  :P

There'd still be strats for the bosses post patches. I'd argue the cheese strats for Melania pre v1.3 involved respec'ing, having a high enough level for yourself/weapons/etc, playing well. I didn't want to respec so even despite trying various of such strats pre v1.3 they weren't as effective (eg: damage wasn't comparable, or the 'cheese' was just getting gud). Sometimes I'd notice the real strat in video description was the author being level 160+ when most are far lower level at that time :doge

The way you're describing finding bosses easy with your build/level/skill I'd be curious if by the time you encounter her it's not quite as bad as you expect. I literally died more to the insane platforming of one dungeon area than Melania. If you get past her the rest is fine.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 30, 2022, 12:13:29 AM
I messed around with finding a 2ndary weapon I could use without respec for stronger horseback weapon.

Ended up going with the Blasphemous Blade +9 and just barely have the stats with Godrick's +5 great rune. But man, what a weapon, especially for this snow area. I just took down the ice dragon in like 60 seconds just running around it's legs slashing because I was doing heavy damage with the fire DPS on it. And grinding those tall elves at the start of the mountains with the L2 skill that shoots the giant flame kills them in 3 blasts, with a mimic can run through that whole area and kill all 8 of them in about 90 seconds and get 40k+ souls per run.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 30, 2022, 02:42:26 AM
Finished Castle Del Sol, yeah Blasphemous Blade's skill was useful for that commander Nail fight since you can hit him and his summons in each flame blast over and over.

Still going back and forth between powerstance katanas for enemies that bleed and blasphemous sword for enemies that don't or big enemies I need to stagger or that are weak to fire. My FP sucks so I constantly run out when using blasphemous sword skill which is the main downside.

Going back to Dragonbarrow and finishing that out now before finishing out Mountaintop of the Giants. Unlocked Consecrated Grounds and will do that after Mountaintop.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on May 30, 2022, 04:36:45 PM
Started Lyndell.  Such a cool looking locale... Nice scale with multiple routes is awesome.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 30, 2022, 11:23:33 PM
Got +25 for my katanas and Blasphemous Blade. Doesn't seem like that much of a jump in damage but every little bit helps a bit. Lvl.147 now and I'm just throwing stats into random stuff like Mind and Faith to balance things at the 1-25 level so I can use more stuff. At this point Vit/Dex/End doesn't do much for giving them more stats.

Didn't realize you can hit max flask charges way ahead of this game. I got 5 golden seeds and it won't let me use them :| Could use more Sacred Tears though if there still is any, a flask barely refills half my HP at like 2,200 HP.

Did some of the Consecrated Grounds, that place has a lot of stuff to fuck you up. Everything does so much damage even at my stats and with decent medium-ish armor. Also I hate the idea of giant area with tons of hidden shit where you can't see anything half the time because snowstorm. Really lame. Got to Mogywan Palace and did some. That first checkpoint area with all the albernaucs sitting is such an easy farm area. Just shoot a few blasphemous flames and it kills a bunch at a time and you get 40k souls in like 30 secs. Don't need to grind, but that seems most efficient spot at this point. Was grinding the tall elves at mountaintop before it for about 40k running through killing all 8 of them over a few mins with a mimic buddy.

Finished up Dragonbarrow, the platforming in the divine tower going down is some rough stuff (getting into it wasn't too easy either).

With the platforming the bane of my existence is that the run but is also BACKSTEP. I've had at least 3 spots in this run where I'm on a tiny little platform and I need to make a running jump for that extra bit of distance and on instinct I hold down O and I backstep off the platform to my death.

Went back and killed the Dual Gargoyles. Easy at this point, but it's kind of bad balance because by the time I could kill that boss I'm way overleveled for Deeproot Basin and that was a quick blow through all the content area. Still enjoyed it.

Finished up Gurranq's quest, Sellen's quest, Fia's quest, Archer summon girl's quest. I think the only ones left wrap up in the remaining areas. And I need to invade some people for White Varr's quest.

Pretty much just have the last bit of Mountaintop of the Giants, about half of Consecrated Grounds, half of Mogywan Palace, Azum Farum, and Haligtree left. Probably do them in that order. Feel like I'm getting there in terms of finishing this up before the final area.

Still enjoying the game plenty, lots of great level design and rewarding exploration. That said at this point Elden Ring's never wowed me a single time like past souls games. It's a pretty consistent 8.5-9/10 very good Souls game, but it just never hits any real highs and with the gigantic kitchen sink thrown in of content there's a decent amount of lows here and there though nothing too miserable so far.

I have issues with Sekiro, but Sekiro had some really awesome moments and was conceptually a very fresh tight game. I think the metacritic scores between that and this should've been swapped TBH, though I think Bloodborne/Demon's/DS1 should all be at the top. I definitely enjoyed my replay of Demon's Souls with the PS5 remake more than ER so far.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 31, 2022, 02:03:46 AM
Also Blasphemous Blade's skill is ridiculously good against some enemies. Did the death's dream legendary dragon and drank the infinite FP elixer and just stood still and fired a bunch off and pretty much destroyed it. Feels pretty cheap, but it's nice to have some easy wins here and there.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 31, 2022, 06:54:35 PM
Did some platformy parts and my god it fucking sucks, it's so bad, imprecise and sometimes unresponsive that I wish the game would respawn back when you fell with no souls lost as long as you're not in combat :trumps
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 01, 2022, 01:06:13 AM
Finished up Mogwyn Palace. I thought this was an endgame tough area like Haligtree/Farum but everything was easy and the boss went down in like 20 seconds  :doge

Given how easy it is to farm and how you can jump straight there really early in the game, seems like a great shortcut if you're playing a NG.

Lord of Blood, more like Lord of getting Bloody Killed.
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Weird thing is the other fight with him at the bottom of the sewers with Dung Eater was actually a good challenge (same moveset?). Small cramped area and he wasn't melting like that. Then again I didn't have dual +25 katanas with Seppuku and didn't have Dex at 80 at that point. Could just be that.

Speaking of which, I don't mind the copy & paste boss fights because I think of bosses as just the big grunt enemies in western AAA games that you fight occasionally, but copy & paste Legendary bosses is so dumb. Oh no it's Astel again in a mine! :\

Lord of Blood paid out 400k+ souls though for 30 seconds of low effort. Can't complain.

I have VIT at 60 now, DEX at 65 + 5 from talisman + 10 from physics capping out at 80, END is 35 but don't need much more. Pretty much maxed out stat-wise for pure Dex gear.

I normally finish souls games around like lvl.60-80 or something and usually don't do NG+ or at least never bothered finishing a NG+, so I've never run into this situation before where I'm maxing out stats and have to figure out what to apply stuff to when I level up. I think I'm like 159 or 165 or something now.

Did some platformy parts and my god it fucking sucks, it's so bad, imprecise and sometimes unresponsive that I wish the game would respawn back when you fell with no souls lost as long as you're not in combat :trumps

Yeah, platforming's always been terrible in all these Souls games. I guess I'm just used to it at this point so it usually doesn't phase me though my hands get sweaty on certain bits for sure.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 01, 2022, 01:18:23 AM
Also I think Bell Bearing Hunter is the worst repeated fight in the game. Not only is he annoying to spawn since you have to change to night elsewhere and then warp in, but he has one of the most bullshit movesets of any of the bosses since he hits really hard close up and then sends his flying spinning sword around to fuck you if you try to get some range. And he has a shoulder tackle dash!

Plus he hits like a goddamn truck and kills you in a combo before you can get away.

Did a bunch of bosses tonight and the only one that gave me any trouble was the Bell Bearing Hunter in Dragonbarrow. I did not expect the explosion after the shield slam since the previous ones don't have that move. I got the Bloodhound step from the Night's Calvary there and was trying it out for the first time against him trying to teleport dodge around him getting hits in and I got fucked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4UQDdc4U7A

Then I beat his ass and did 50% of his HP before he did a move which helped. I feel like in every souls game a lot of it is just getting lucky and the boss AI does an easy move first and you get a ton of damage in and it just puts you in a good position to finish them out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkaAvFEkqSI
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Coax on June 01, 2022, 01:29:09 AM
I normally finish souls games around like lvl.60-80 or something and usually don't do NG+ or at least never bothered finishing a NG+, so I've never run into this situation before where I'm maxing out stats and have to figure out what to apply stuff to when I level up. I think I'm like 159 or 165 or something now.

I'd probably suggest avoiding leveling further tbh and invest it in leveling weapons instead but it depends on the difficulty you want.


Yeah, platforming's always been terrible in all these Souls games. I guess I'm just used to it at this point so it usually doesn't phase me though my hands get sweaty on certain bits for sure.

Wait until you get to the true depths of the Subterranean Shunning-Grounds :doge
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 01, 2022, 01:51:38 AM
I normally finish souls games around like lvl.60-80 or something and usually don't do NG+ or at least never bothered finishing a NG+, so I've never run into this situation before where I'm maxing out stats and have to figure out what to apply stuff to when I level up. I think I'm like 159 or 165 or something now.

I'd probably suggest avoiding leveling further tbh and invest it in leveling weapons instead but it depends on the difficulty you want.


I mean I'm just doing the content and leveling up each time I have enough souls for a new level. Leveling weapons isn't too expensive (spirit ashes are pricey though). I don't mind being overleveled since I can put it into stuff like arcane and then mess around with dragon magics without having to respec.

I guess I could spend the souls on buying upgrade stones. That does make sense since those do add up with how many you need.

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Yeah, platforming's always been terrible in all these Souls games. I guess I'm just used to it at this point so it usually doesn't phase me though my hands get sweaty on certain bits for sure.

Wait until you get to the true depths of the Subterranean Shunning-Grounds :doge

Yeah I did some of the

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area, but I don't want to lock myself into that ending so backed out until I have the needle.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 01, 2022, 01:54:29 AM
Also, one thing that helps with the platforming is whenever I'm gonna attempt some dangerous platforming I go spend all my souls so I have like 0 before I attempt it. Then there's no penalty if you die so don't mind the deaths in platforming sections as much.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on June 01, 2022, 02:15:13 PM
In general the solution for the vertical platforming(which usually means you're going down, not up)  like in the Caelid tower is not to jump but simply drop down.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 01, 2022, 03:27:07 PM
In general the solution for the vertical platforming(which usually means you're going down, not up)  like in the Caelid tower is not to jump but simply drop down.

Yup.

I saw a message that said "try backstep" to land on the little platform there and I was like ...no and just dropped down and was fine.

Have too much trauma from backstepping off platforms already  :(
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 02, 2022, 01:12:01 AM
Finished Mountaintop of the Giants. Whoops I fucked up bleh.

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Was planning on sacrificing myself to keep maiden alive and then purging the flame with the needle. Figured that would be the best ending route?
Didn't realize that was the choice to burn maiden. It makes sense, I just wasn't thinking. Thought it'd be more clear about what the choice was.

Still gonna go see Three Fingers but I guess there's no point other than to get there now :|
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Also I got Rivers of Blood and did a respec to Arcane for it and I hate it. I had to lose so much to get Arcane up. I had to drop VIT from 60->50 and END from 35->30 and DEX from 65 -> 46 if I wanted to keep 17 STR/21 Faith so I can swap between it and Blasphemous Blade. These two builds are very incompatible.

So yeah, I proc blood quicker using Seppuku on my +25 Uchi dual powerstance with Rivers of Blood on main, but the damage isn't that much better than just two Uchigatana +25 keen builds with Seppuku on each. And the Rivers of Blood skill move I kind of hate. Because it's not a physical attack it doesn't hit stun enemies AT ALL like a normal attack and so I do the animation and they hit me. It doesn't even do much damage on the first hit, so you have to do the whole 3-part L2 skill combo which is a lot of time that enemies are murdering you.

AND it eats up like 75% of your FP bar at default FP just to do a single Rivers of Blood combo.

Also that stuff sacrificed to have a still short reach sword skill that's only usefulness is quicker bleed. I mean I'm sure it's great for PVP but...I get to Bleed proc fast enough already on PVE and then they build more resistance each time so it's not that great.

Not sure if the Fire Giant just has a shitton HP, but it barely felt like I was doing much damage and that fight took a while even with Rivers of Blood procing bleed a bunch of times.

So basically I'm gonna go respec again and go back to my 60 VIT and 65 Dex and 35 END and stick to Dual Uchigatanas w/Seppuku and Blasphemous Blade.


Also I guess I'll do Farum since I'm already a bit in and then go Consecrated Grounds/Haligtree afterwards and before the end area.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 02, 2022, 05:04:21 AM
Last Death Rite Bird in Consecrated Grounds took me a good 40 mins. Was surprised that the Night's Calvary x 2 there I cleared on my first try just picking them off one at a time. Thought you'd have to fight both together.

Got one cave, one catacomb left and then it's time to enter the Haligtree!
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 02, 2022, 05:13:09 AM
Also it looks like I only fucked up two things in this run going for 100%

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-Failed Brother Corbyn's/Goldmask quest because I was supposed to go solve a puzzle before igniting the Giant's Fire, which locks me out of one of the endings.
-As mentioned didn't save fire maidengirl. Not sure if this actually changes anything? I watched a vid of what happens when you burn yourself and she just tells you to fuck off and leaves. Not sure if she appears again.
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Otherwise I think I've finished or will be able to finish the rest of the NPCs questlines, just a couple left and do all the rest of the content if I can clear Melinia.

Tempted to run a Main Story only quick NG+ after finishing this as a ranged INT mage just to see what it's like and try out all these spells. I did try out all the dragon spells since I have high arcane/faith right now with rivers of blood and they all seem pretty meh outside Greyroll's shriek which is nice for wiping large amounts of grunts at once but it eats a ton of FP. INT/Sorcery builds seems more fun and useful.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Coax on June 02, 2022, 07:20:22 AM
Also it looks like I only fucked up two things in this run going for 100%

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-As mentioned didn't save fire maidengirl. Not sure if this actually changes anything? I watched a vid of what happens when you burn yourself and she just tells you to fuck off and leaves. Not sure if she appears again.
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She doesn't appear again. I only went for the Flame mark + needle path since it seemed like the better thing to do. They could have added something imo as it's quite a convoluted quest path to take.
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Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on June 02, 2022, 01:43:13 PM
Not sure if the Fire Giant just has a shitton HP,
Absolutely has a ton of HP.  Fire Giant as 4x as much HP as Morgott and 2x as much as Godfrey.  :dizzy
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 02, 2022, 02:48:29 PM
Been watching build guides, and kinda annoyed I spent almost 100 hours just melee-ing with katana types and Blasphemous Blade.

Lots of interesting builds out there. I thought the dragon stuff was meh because of the startup delay that you can get hit out and the huge FP eat, but watching some videos where you put tons of buffs on and basically one shot everything before they see you with dragon breaths and take out bosses quick seems cool.

Honestly not sure if it makes sense to mess around with lots of builds right now at the very endgame when everything is hard and I need to be at my most efficient builds. Probably makes more sense to try this stuff in NG+ after grinding a bunch of runes at the end to buy tons of upgrade stones max out seals/weapons to at least +9/+24.

It also sucks that Larval Tears, while decently abundant, aren't farmable so you can't just keep respec-ing and messing around with different builds. I think I'm down to about 9 left and probably need to respec at least one more time to get my dex build back before I finish the game. Like respec is way, way better than past souls games, but just with so many build options and all the fun of trying them out and the different gear I wish you could farm or buy them at endgame or post-game.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 02, 2022, 04:56:29 PM
Not had much time for gaming ,but had an hour or so to poke around the atlus plateau a little bit, wtf is that windmill village full of weird dancing women all about :confused
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on June 02, 2022, 05:12:13 PM
In my latest session I went exploring Nokron, the Eternal City.

Killed some sort of ancient magic beast that kept healing itself and did an unblockable roll attack. Figured out the best way was to equip the Blood Fang, put on some Magic Grease and keep wailing at it.
The beast sure had beautiful animations but I'm glad it's dead now.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 02, 2022, 07:15:38 PM
Not had much time for gaming ,but had an hour or so to poke around the atlus plateau a little bit, wtf is that windmill village full of weird dancing women all about :confused

Midsommar

Miyazaki's never been shy about giving nods to all the creepy horror stuff he loves aka the entire games are ripped off of Berserk's art design.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 02, 2022, 09:57:09 PM
This Ordina bit with the magic archer spam has me wanting to just delete the game at this point 100 hours in and walk away.

This is like that terrible bit in DS2 everyone talks about BUT EVEN WORSE.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 03, 2022, 12:07:05 AM
Haligtree was pretty tough. Honesty it's the only part of the game that's felt like Demons Souls where the level itself is a challenge because sites/shortcuts are a bit far and everything is set to kill you.

First part of the game where I had to resort to the old Souls method of RUN PAST EVERYTHING TO THE NEXT CHECKPOINT here and there.


Malenia wasn't an issue with mimic summon. It still distracted her enough that I could hit her in the back or the mimic doing that vice-versa and get staggers in. Took 4-5 tries of learning a few moves to dodge and how to recognize waterfowl dance to just run the fuck away, but took her down in about 10 mins.

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https://youtu.be/ee6V45qfQao
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Now gotta go back and finish exploring out and getting all the treasures from the Haligtree and finishing Millicent's NPC quest and get the needle and finish up Dung Eater's quest since the last 2 seedbed curses are in the Brace.

Will probably do Farum tomorrow and finish the game up on Saturday at this rate.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 03, 2022, 01:29:26 AM
Finished exploring out Haligtree. That stage has some annoying shit. Putrid Avatar on the bridge took me longer than Malenia and then all those graveyard guys who spam you to death below that. Got so sick of taking that Elevator back up over and over again.

Finished Millicent's quest, got the needle, finished Dung Eater's quest, did Forsaken Chapel, finished Hyetta's quest. The platforming had a few rough spots but once I realized I could roll to get less distance than a jump and more than a fall it wasn't too bad.

Might even finish this tomorrow. Getting real close.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 03, 2022, 04:01:15 AM
Did some Farum through the Duo. Not sure why people were getting stuck on this. Even if you're at a much lower level if you've done Volcano Manor you get Bernahl and your own summon so it's 3 vs 2 which is very doable.

Now if you're doing no summons 1 vs 2, yeah I can see how it sucks. I started out this game playing it like old souls games and solo-ing bosses but at some point it just became clear the game was designed around having summon buddies as part of your attack lineup so I have no issue summoning any story NPCs or my own summon the second I walk into a new boss fight.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Coax on June 03, 2022, 10:04:18 AM
Someone made a demake (https://shin.itch.io/elden-ring-gb) for the Gameboy and Analogue Pocket.

Gameplay footage (https://reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/v3ssgb/i_made_an_elden_ring_demake_for_the_game_boy_you/)
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 03, 2022, 09:12:54 PM
Finishing up the game now and honestly I'm way past ready for it to be over. Just tired of the same bullshit over and over. On my 3rd death against the Crucible Knight at the end of Farum. Same moveset as always but crazy high stats and still complete bullshit enemy that blocks everything and kills you in a couple hit combo. Plus there's no site of grace near him (there's no way back up from the one to the right of him) or stake so gotta do the 1-2 min boss run every time just to fight this same Crucible Knight I've fought 20 times already and whose been a pain in the ass input reading cheating every time.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 03, 2022, 09:41:37 PM
Fuck, game crashed on me :(
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 03, 2022, 09:45:48 PM
Damn, have to fight a boss again. I thought it saved after :|
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 03, 2022, 10:29:51 PM
Farum done.

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Maliketh kept one-shotting me immediately after the cutscene midway. Was pretty annoying. On like 3rd or 4th attempt he did a different move after and I beat him.

Placidux was fun. Got one-shotted like 80% into the fight by the yellow laser. Next time I saved my damage negation physix flask for that phase and didn't die. It's nice to at least have one fucking dragon fight that isn't just the same fight you've fought 20 times against every dragon in the game.

At Capital of Ash. Will see how these final bosses are.
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Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 03, 2022, 11:23:07 PM
It feels satisfying that every time I hate an enemy and google it I find like 5 reddit threads on why they are the worst enemy in the game   :lol

Now that I'm at the final bosses, most of the enemies were fine, most of the bosses were fine. But as a melee build I had no fun at all with any Crucible Knight or Lesser Burial Watchdog (normal enemy versions, bosses are fine). Surprisingly I didn't have issues with Revenants because they were very squishy and once they spawned I'd just rush them and kill them before they could attack. But if they got their like 8 hit combo going, yeah usually dead.

Also I don't understand how ukemi works in this game. Sometimes I'm knocked down and I'm invincible safe for a second or two until I get up, but other times I'm knocked down and then I get murdered before I can move. Not talking about stagger but like knocked on your ass laying completely down on your back. Seems random.

Oh and another thing is I feel like the enemy/boss damage output in ER is way higher than any previous Soulsborne game. Don't remember Sekiro damage enough to compare it. The amount of enemies/bosses that one shot you in this by hit-stunning you with a combo and doing an entire lifebar (At max 60 fucking VIT with medium armor) worth of damage is ridiculous. I've never felt like previous Soulsborne games were full of constant basic one or two shots, but ER definitely felt that. ER feels like you are always a glass cannon build no matter what. I think it's pretty stupid tbh.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 04, 2022, 12:13:26 AM
Ok, cleared it. Final boss looked nice but seemed pretty straight-forward fight.

Not sure what was going on in the story. Will look it up. Game was solid.

*edit* shit, looking at the trophy list I should have save scummed though not sure how you back up saves on PS5. Only trophies I missed were the other 2 endings. I guess I could NG+ and NG++ if I wanted the plat. I'll see if I wanna even do NG+
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: BrokenVerses on June 04, 2022, 01:03:25 AM
Finishing up the game now and honestly I'm way past ready for it to be over. Just tired of the same bullshit over and over. On my 3rd death against the Crucible Knight at the end of Farum. Same moveset as always but crazy high stats and still complete bullshit enemy that blocks everything and kills you in a couple hit combo. Plus there's no site of grace near him (there's no way back up from the one to the right of him) or stake so gotta do the 1-2 min boss run every time just to fight this same Crucible Knight I've fought 20 times already and whose been a pain in the ass input reading cheating every time.

Yeah that's how I was feeling towards the end. I just went Mimic Tear/Rivers of Blood and blasted through everything since I was so ready for it to be done.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 04, 2022, 01:09:31 AM
Overall thoughts on ER are about the same. Game is pretty good but doesn't bring anything really new or fresh to Dark Souls or Souls series in general and because it's so long with so much content it has all the usual Souls ups and downs of good content and occasional shit content.

Story was ok, I need to watch the lore videos now. I read all the item entries and have some general understanding of the lore, but can't say I was ever super into it like Bloodborne/DS1 or even DS2 (DS2's lore is the most redeeming part of DS2, it's a real interesting though incomplete story). I already thought that Sekiro was pretty lite/weak on Lore and it followed DS3 which had the least interesting Lore/story yet in a Souls game, ER is a step in the right direction and better and more interesting lore than those two, but at least for me it was never interesting like Bloodborne/DS1/DS2's worlds and story.

Can't say I really cared about most of the npcs. Alexander maybe. Ranni was moe as fuck. I also dislike how almost every npc just ends up dying.

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Legit bummed when Alexander died to give me his living shard.

Was also pretty gross. Those jars are gross ass shit.
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Also I gotta disagree with Let's Cyber that the game doesn't have the usual Souls fall off in the last 1/3rd or 1/4th. Yes, Haligtree is excellent and one of the best areas in the game in level design/art. Farum is solid too though a bit repetitive with the same enemies over and over. But everything else after Leyendell is the usual Souls fall off in quality.

Mountaintop of the Giants is boring. It's spread out with very little to do or explore and nothing really new or interesting. Conscerated Snowgrounds is a complete troll fucking area of just lots of bullshit whether it's the blizzard where you can't see shit for 1/3rd of it (including a Red Wolf fight with 12 smaller wolves when you can't see shit), ganks like Sanguine Invader dropping you off your horse right when you aggro a couple of runebears so you deal with them and him at the same time, the magic archer maze, the worst catacombs dungeon, etc...there's like nothing fun in that area. Then the end stuff doesn't have much story or interesting level design or interesting bosses. It's all just kind of ehhhhh, ok after Leyendell imo.

I think ER has lots of great level design but for every great legacy dungeon there's another Souls game that does a similar kind of area but with better level design. I mean it's masterclass level design for sure. Just nothing we haven't seen before from this team.

Otoh, after killing 120 bosses, I think outside like 10 bosses they are very, very average souls boss fights. I definitely think that overall ER has the worst & least interesting/exciting/fun bosses in a Souls game. They're just so bland outside the few that are closer to Bloodborne/Sekiro fights (aka most of the Legendary bosses).

Elden Ring is like 10/10 level design and 7/10 bosses.

I think the 97 metacritic is pretty nuts and to me this feels like an 8.7/10 or something, but lots of games have way higher or lower scores than they deserve. Sekiro was a much better game imo, same great level design, way better bosses, far tighter combat and more original feeling and aesthetic.

My souls ranking is:

S tier: Bloodborne / DS1
A tier: Sekiro / Demons Souls
B tier: Elden Ring
B- tier: Dark Souls 3
C tier: Dark Souls 2
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 04, 2022, 01:54:25 AM
One of my favorite bits in the game:

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(https://i.imgur.com/9Q3GjLeh.jpg)
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Bunch of screens I took. Art design was on point like always for From Soft.

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(https://i.imgur.com/o1fbaZqh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/wSNqsM0h.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/FU9ywCnh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ABHjadPh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/QLLZtYjh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/MBOILtEh.jpg)
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Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 04, 2022, 07:52:04 AM
Can't believe you put Sekiro that high. Didn't that game put you in the hospital thanks to the ammount of stress it gave you?
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 04, 2022, 10:03:16 AM
hey, a good game's a good game even if if kills you irl.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 04, 2022, 01:13:49 PM
Gonna go into NG+, sounds short & fun. Might do 2 more runs of the main story and get the plat.

Read up that you lose all your bell bearings and stone purchasing's in NG+ which sucksssssssssssssssss. Spent all that time getting everyone one so later on could just buy stones and upgrade tons of weapons for different builds.

Will have to decide my new build 100% with stats/weapons maxed before starting NG+, just know I want to run a ranged int spellcaster with a backup int/str weapon for something different than my dex/faith/arcane katana run.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on June 04, 2022, 01:51:17 PM
Given the enemy re-use, I can see why people didn't like that Mountaintops of the giants nearly as much. I think I was a little more forgiving on because it's a barren, frozen wasteland, so the setting saves it a bit. It doesn't have as much content the proceeding areas obviously but it fits theme of the area. I didn't kill Borealis or fight any of the dogs/crows/trolls either. At far into the game, there really wasn't any point when you know there isn't any reward for doing so outside of runes. Maybe Borealis gives like ice dragon breath incantation? I wasn't running arcane at all.

Parts of DS1 were straight up unfinished, which I think is a lot more egregious. I could see making a case that they could have drastically cut down the empty space in Consecrated Snowfield and mountaintop of the giants and condensed the relevant content down in a smaller area. The vastness of the play area really benefited most of the game in my humble opinion, but the snow area probably could have been cut down a bit.

Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 04, 2022, 04:13:57 PM
Given the enemy re-use, I can see why people didn't like that Mountaintops of the giants nearly as much. I think I was a little more forgiving on because it's a barren, frozen wasteland, so the setting saves it a bit. It doesn't have as much content the proceeding areas obviously but it fits theme of the area. I didn't kill Borealis or fight any of the dogs/crows/trolls either. At far into the game, there really wasn't any point when you know there isn't any reward for doing so outside of runes. Maybe Borealis gives like ice dragon breath incantation? I wasn't running arcane at all.

Parts of DS1 were straight up unfinished, which I think is a lot more egregious. I could see making a case that they could have drastically cut down the empty space in Consecrated Snowfield and mountaintop of the giants and condensed the relevant content down in a smaller area. The vastness of the play area really benefited most of the game in my humble opinion, but the snow area probably could have been cut down a bit.

Pretty sure if they cut the entire snowfield and just had a teleporter in mountaintop that went to Haligtree, nothing of value would be lost. The only other interesting bit in Snowfield is the deathroot in the connector tunnel since I like

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invisible walkways
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but could've kept that tunnel as a catacomb if they wanted.

Mountaintop was fine and it was nice looking enough to see a giant scale area. It just needed to be more interesting content-wise. You say you skipped the dragon on the lake, but that's probably the most interesting thing in the map after the Rise puzzle and Fire Giant fight.


Yeah, DS1 has unfinished areas, which are more funny than a big negative imo. Like hey there's an area that's almost totally empty. Weird. And a terrible bed of chaos boss after.

But almost every Souls game basically has this "ran out of time or budget in the end zones" issue. In ER even the last area is pretty much nothing besides a few fights.

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I don't mind City of Ash having no exploration/level design, but I thought when we got in the Eldtree there'd be a final stage inside the tree or something before the final boss.
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I don't think ER's end zone drop off is any worse than previous Souls games, but I don't think it doesn't fall into their usual MO. Honestly, it probably makes sense to develop their games with the most time and budget going into the first half of the game since most players probably don't even get to the 2nd half  :lol
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on June 04, 2022, 06:54:00 PM
The Valiant Gargoyles are kicking my ass :info
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 04, 2022, 08:06:52 PM
The Valiant Gargoyles are kicking my ass :info

Hardest boss in the game for me and it's not really a strategy thing. You can learn all their moves and if you can't kill the first one fast enough because you're too low level, dealing with both of the same time is extremely difficult.

You get 2 summons in the fight. One of your own, and D's brother. So make sure you do the D questline to get him. But basically if you don't beat it after a few tries, just leave and come back every 10-20 levels until you can beat it.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 04, 2022, 08:20:12 PM
Spent the afternoon messing around with INT builds. I thought about doing a DEATH BUILD using the Lord of Death staff which splits scaling 50/50 with INT, so I'd have like 45/45 but then I can't use certain spells and stuff so I decided to save a faith run for NG++

Messed around with tons of spells and weapons. Wanted to have a physical off-hand so in a tight spot I could block with my shield and then after stunning the enemy on block, switch to a quick weapon and get a kill in. Tried using daggers/claws but very few are INT. Still the veteran's arm lightning claw is pretty fun even if it's STR/DEX and not doing obscene damage with my 80 INT build. Only have about 26 STR/22 DEX so I can use most of the weapons. Actually wanted a real FP bar this time around so put 35 into mind to start and kept VIT at 60. Faith is 25 for Golden Vow, Arcane is like 9 default.

Anyhow, INT mages are fun!

Not mix/maxing or anything, but what I found worked nice and was fun was:

-short range grunt killer - Night's Comet/Comet
-short range multi-enemy killer - Adula's Moonblade

-Board & Shield - Magic Hammer is fucking fun to pound enemies after they stun from a block.

-Mid-range group - Didn't find a whole lot I like for this - Death's Rancor is pretty good for spam but would be better with the death staff and faith/int split run.
-Mid-range group - Actually I take that back, the magic cannon is great even if it's a little slow windup

https://youtu.be/UmGLlqXX-7E

-Long-range/slow/boss killers - I tried Ranni's dark moon and the damage was shit even with the Lucarian Regal staff that enhances it. A lot of the big deal ones seemed kind of shit on damage. Crystal Torrent is good if you can stay still for a long time gattling them without getting fucked which didn't work on the big enemies I tried it against. Ended up finding the meteor storm to be the most enjoyable. Yeah it misses small enemies and goes all over, but for small enemies stuff like Comet is fine. For big enemies where all the meteors hit them after you've done golden vow -> jelly fish damage buff -> physics magic boost & unlimited FP and 30% magic buff sigil....pretty much kicks ass.

https://youtu.be/cJ_Ler9yGR8

Finally having been stealth limited in my melee build and just fighting everything. The ease of constantly putting invisibility on with an INT build is so fucking fun. Just run up and backstab every enemy. I should've added points to get invisibility in my melee run. So good.

I upgraded a bunch of weapons to +9, spears, holy swords, daggers, claws, shields, etc... and bought a bunch of extra Somber stones 1-9 if I wanna upgrade something else next run. So I think I'm all good to start a NG+ run and fuck around with magic only.

For NG++ I think a dual dagger/claw & faith build would be pretty fun, though not sure how compatible they are. Daggers/claws seem dex/str ashes of war combo build ready.

Or a Grim Reaper faith build with a scythe and lord of death staff and using all the death magics.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 04, 2022, 11:25:13 PM
Got to the Fire Giant in NG+, it's kind of amazing how the game that takes you 100+ hours is like 4 hours long if you just run the main required story path.

Honestly this run has been kind of boring. I get curious with games like Resident Evil and this to do NG+ speedruns and see how short they can be, but otherwise I pretty much did everything in the game and there's nothing really new for me here. Would rather be playing something else.

I'm guessing I'll finish NG+ up since it shouldn't take that long, but really doubt I'll do NG++ even if that's all I need to get the platinum trophy. Just would feel like a time grind at that point.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 05, 2022, 02:49:19 AM
Some of NG+ as glass canon spellcaster has actually been tough.

Been stuck on the final boss for 20 mins now. Have to learn every single move really, really well because I don't do much damage, my mimic doesn't get its aggro very well and I die in like 2 hits.

What bugs me is that even after 10-20 attempts now, there are some moves I can't figure out how to avoid at all. May need to watch a guide. Will push through this.


On one hand NG++ seems like a bad idea because these fights are gonna be even harder. Otoh, if I learn how to perfectly dodge every attack in them it should still work then.

*edit* damn, had a really good run and ...ran out of magic flasks and didn't have a single weapon equipped and died trying to equip a weapon between moves.

Wow, the final bosses has some really BS 1-2 punch stagger to impossible to dodge the next move and one shot kind of bits. This is kind of a terrible fight.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 05, 2022, 03:04:58 AM
Ok, beat it. Took me an hour.

Still no idea how to dodge the yellow flame it does right away which hits me twice for 90% of my HP and no idea how to dodge the yellow ball with shooting stars that follow me for like 30-60 seconds and keep staggering me so I get hit by other stuff.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 05, 2022, 02:24:09 PM
Thinking about it today, I will say NG+ was good for me, in that there were a lot of bosses in the back half that I never really had to learn their moves because I'd kill them too quickly just by face tanking and roll reacting to moves coming out. NG+ felt more like a real DMCV/NG kind of game where I had to actually learn movesets and that has its own fun.

My biggest issue with the combat in ER is honestly the input delay. It's the usual Souls bad responsiveness, but man, some of these bosses the moves come out so fucking quick off an animation start it can be extremely difficult because you react and hit dodge but the input delay lags and you get hit. I even had this issue BOTH runs I did the chapel of the forsaken platforming (I did flame ending in NG+) because 2 of the last 3 jumps I roll and both runs I had a few deaths where I hit forward + roll and just...walked off the ledge edge and died.

I feel like if the game was more responsive the boss fights would be more fun.


That said I looked up some NG+/NG++/NG+7 patch 1.04 tips for the final boss and seems like

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If you just cast Lords Divine Protection for like 60% Holy Damage reduction every couple mins + Talisman+2 for another 20% Holy Damage reduction, these bosses can't really do too much damage since the majority of their attacks are holy attacks, which greatly offsets their damage increases in NG+ increases.
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So between that and having learned to avoid most of their moves, I think I'll be ok for NG++ Trying to decide if I should do anything in NG+ post-game before another reset like grabbing some of the easier/quicker Larval tears or doing some optional bosses for more xp. Only gained about 15 levels total in NG+ run from all bosses/legacy dungeons combined. 179->194 post final boss.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 06, 2022, 08:10:05 PM
Started NG+2 as a shield & spear build for something different.

Finally found a build that makes Crucible Knights a breeze.

https://youtu.be/p6rK8OWHW84

Overall this build is pretty boring, melee powerstance & melee casting is way more active and fun, but it's also a pretty safe build for survivability. Got past Liurna in about an hour. I kind of want to grab the Dectus medallions for the lift but I feel like the climb is faster than running to Fort Faroth and doing the Cave. Idk.

Also after I finished this session I realized this build is really stupid stat-wise since I'm using an Arcane weapon (Mohg's spear). I have my stats split between 80 ARC for primary weapon, 48 STR for the fingerprint shield, 18 DEX so I can switch off to Rivers of Blood if I want without respec, 27 Faith for Golden Vow, Flame Give me Strength and Lord's Discipline for the final boss, just enough MIND with the Marika Soreseal to summon Tiche at 132FP and 60VIT and just enough END to fit with heavy load.

Stats are too spread, even at lvl.200. Really inefficient.

If instead of using the Blood Spear, I used a STR weapon to go with the Fingerprint Shield since all I'm doing is poking anyhow, I could save that 80 ARC (default ARC is like 9, so that's 71 stat points) and use it to fill out MIND so I don't need the Soreseal and basically max out STR/Faith for a Paladin type of build. Will investigate this next time. Otoh if I switch to STR/Faith 80/80 I won't be able to fall back on Rivers of Blood without a respec. Which is probably fine. Still have 5 Larval Tears from the first run and can find more this 3rd run if I need to.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 06, 2022, 10:42:17 PM
It's interesting how different bosses are REALLY difficult depending on your build.

Shield did nothing against Fire Giant. Had to give up and just roll and River of Blood slashes. Currently stuck on Maliketh phase 2 which was never an issue in the first two runs. But his phase 2 magic blood attacks go straight through shields so I'm just a heavy sitting duck build that dies quick. Also my summons+10 are dying so fast in NG+2 on these end bosses.

But just cheesed him with Mohg's spear by

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Standing behind a piller and using the skill a bunch for blood rain
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Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 06, 2022, 11:02:59 PM
Yeah, I'm gonna struggle on the final boss in NG+2 with this build.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 06, 2022, 11:11:42 PM
Ok, beat NG+2 in one sitting. Platinum get.

I actually find the

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Elden Beast

a lot easier than Radagon to actually learn all the moves and get the hang of dodging them
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Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 06, 2022, 11:29:14 PM
Easiest Time I've ever had against these guys or any type of Knights in general with a shield

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https://youtu.be/9OZpJbiGlN4
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Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 06, 2022, 11:34:22 PM
I feel like this was a pretty good run on the final boss in terms of dodging/blocking stuff. I've never seen a way to really cheat that boss. Just seems like you gotta learn it and I did it enough in NG+1 to learn it so it wasn't bad here.

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https://youtu.be/LIH7bGRsqMA
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Also my overall thoughts on NG+2 were it didn't seem particularly harder other than my summon in boss fights wouldn't last the whole fight for the end bosses which was bad. The souls payout on bosses was great, but I felt like the multiplier gives up after NG+1 for normal enemies. Those ice elf guys at the start of the mountain top give 5k souls in NG, 10k souls in NG+1, and 11.5k souls in NG+2.

Bosses in general took a lot longer (1-3 mins instead of 30-60 seconds) but a lot of that was using a weaker 1H spear vs dual sword powerstancing or strong magic attacks. Was just running a low DPS character this time around.

Also I think after trying different builds and seeing the range of the gameplay, I'd say as a PVE game it's about a 9/10. Got it's flaws but pretty good single player game. PVP is it's own thing and can't really judge it.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 13, 2022, 03:48:01 PM
Today's patch fixes XSX loading to match PS5/PC

And bell bearings now all carry over across NG+ runs. This is nice. On my NG+ runs I had to look up where to get certain ones so I could buy them again and finish upgrading some of the new gear I used. One of these days may get around to grabbing all the bell bearings again on my NG+2 file to have for the eventual DLC.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on June 13, 2022, 05:45:54 PM
aawww yiss I was hoping for faster load times :rejoice
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 23, 2022, 07:47:34 AM
Beat the two gargoyles last night after about an half an hour to forty five mins (plus another half hour getting ghost glovewort to level up my mimic tear between the first load of attempts and the last one). Easily the hardest boss I've come across so far, now I learn I missed out on another summon that would have made it a bit more manageable :tocry
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 23, 2022, 09:04:03 AM
Weird thing is I should be way over levelled anyway for that fight, last thing I'd done before going underground was Lyndell and I ripped through the bosses there with little issue.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on June 23, 2022, 01:08:17 PM
Weird thing is I should be way over levelled anyway for that fight, last thing I'd done before going underground was Lyndell and I ripped through the bosses there with little issue.

It's just a BS fight because if you can't kill the first gargoyle fast enough, having to deal with two that have huge field leap moves and can't stay in camera at the same time is just RNG if you're gonna take a hit.

The fight is fine at the start and end, but that middle phase where both are active is bad and you basically depend on your summons staying alive and keeping aggro of one.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on June 23, 2022, 02:01:05 PM
After a few weeks break, I'm ready to finally jump back into this.  At the Royal Capital and around lvl 130ish. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Boogie on July 04, 2022, 08:32:27 PM
Has anyone else had performance suddenly go to shit in the past 2-3 weeks?

I have a rig with a 3080 ti (no hatin') and it had been running the game smooth at 4k with everything at max.  All of a sudden about 2-3 weeks ago, performance has been crap, with constant stuttering every 10 seconds of action or so.  Dropping resolution to 1440 did nothing to improve things.

I booted up Cyberpunk to run a benchmark of it at 4k with max settings, and it stayed locked at about 60fps, so I think it is just Elden Ring, not something going funky with my system as a whole.

Anything similar happen to anyone else in that timeframe?  Thoughts, possible solutions?  Or just walk away from the game until a patch or driver update resolves it?

edit:  even dropping the resolution to 1920x1080 still had the stuttering, though it was finally *slightly* reduced.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on July 04, 2022, 09:55:06 PM
My performance is always shit but then I play on PS5 version  :lol

I haven't heard about PC version performance changes lately though.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: remy on July 05, 2022, 08:12:39 AM
Has anyone else had performance suddenly go to shit in the past 2-3 weeks?

I have a rig with a 3080 ti (no hatin') and it had been running the game smooth at 4k with everything at max.  All of a sudden about 2-3 weeks ago, performance has been crap, with constant stuttering every 10 seconds of action or so.  Dropping resolution to 1440 did nothing to improve things.

I booted up Cyberpunk to run a benchmark of it at 4k with max settings, and it stayed locked at about 60fps, so I think it is just Elden Ring, not something going funky with my system as a whole.

Anything similar happen to anyone else in that timeframe?  Thoughts, possible solutions?  Or just walk away from the game until a patch or driver update resolves it?

edit:  even dropping the resolution to 1920x1080 still had the stuttering, though it was finally *slightly* reduced.
I believe the consensus its it's shader caching, so it comes back whenever you update your gpu drivers
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on July 11, 2022, 05:36:49 PM
Made some more progress over the weekend.  Entered the Giants Valley area.  Wanted to cover more of that before attempting to fight Astel again.   Been juggling between, the Sword of N&F, Blasphemous Blade and the Bloodhoundís FangÖ Canít decide which to stick with.   Just found out the Bloudhoundís Fang L2 -> R2 combo. 

Still need to go back and figure out how to deal with the caves with the chariot riding bastardsÖ I tend to find one when Iím feeling spent and just nope out of them.

Took out some random great enemies, like the giant gargoyle right outside the beast clergyman dudeís location and the dragon on the bridge down the road from there.  Still need to deal with all 3 npcís for the giant jar HQ place. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on July 11, 2022, 06:08:50 PM
Made some more progress over the weekend.  Entered the Giants Valley area.  Wanted to cover more of that before attempting to fight Astel again.   Been juggling between, the Sword of N&F, Blasphemous Blade and the Bloodhoundís FangÖ Canít decide which to stick with.   Just found out the Bloudhoundís Fang L2 -> R2 combo. 

Sword of N&F looked cool, but I heard they nerfed it really hard in the first balance patch because it was god-tier initially so I never used it because the stat requirements. Blasphemous Blade is pretty awesome for a lot of stuff, especially normal enemy mobs. Don't remember Bloodhound's Fang.

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Still need to go back and figure out how to deal with the caves with the chariot riding bastardsÖ I tend to find one when Iím feeling spent and just nope out of them.

Have lots of HP to not die in 1 hit when you get knocked down

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Took out some random great enemies, like the giant gargoyle right outside the beast clergyman dudeís location and the dragon on the bridge down the road from there. 

Nice, once you kill one gargoyle you can kill them all.

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Still need to deal with all 3 npcís for the giant jar HQ place.

No advice here. I came back when I was OP and totally wrecked them lol. The reward is really good though and I used it for a lot of builds for the rest of the game and NG+

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Maximum equipment weight increase talisman
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Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on July 11, 2022, 09:32:32 PM
No advice here. I came back when I was OP and totally wrecked them lol. The reward is really good though and I used it for a lot of builds for the rest of the game and NG+

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Maximum equipment weight increase talisman
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I could quite use this actually.. The Blasphemous and Bloodhound sword, both make me fat roll.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nuitangg on July 12, 2022, 11:45:27 AM
Think we'll see the DLC this year?
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 12, 2022, 11:51:23 AM
Q3 next year according to Bork :trumps
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on July 12, 2022, 01:11:19 PM
Q3 next year according to Bork :trumps
bork's right, according to recent Bamco ransomware leak...

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c71acfa8500808729feb2e55e6a2bb978b88175c44092fdba3d33fe4338f5d14.jpg)
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 12, 2022, 01:54:23 PM
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Thats almost certainly fake :shh
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Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: paprikastaude on July 12, 2022, 03:17:41 PM
Barbarians of the Badlands  :iface
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 12, 2022, 04:15:41 PM
Thou hath defeated 12 gods to become the true elden lord, now it is time for thou to go and beat up some gypsies in the desert :badass
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on July 12, 2022, 04:53:00 PM
The title immediately made me think of this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk9M1MPNB1Y
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Coax on July 13, 2022, 07:16:34 AM
Speedrunner (https://www.twitch.tv/mitchriz) is doing dual boss Sekiro challenges (double Genchinro, etc). They commented that Sekiro is a calmer experience than Elden Ring for them since it's more predictable. I wish I had their zen :doge
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on July 18, 2022, 10:46:28 AM
Got the northeastern map opened up and took down the Fire Giant after a few tries.  Went directly to that big forge/cauldron thing, talked to what's her face and got transported to someplace with a rubbled castle and a giant tornado...  :leon  Should I even be here yet? Lol Guess I'll tackle it next sesh.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Tuckers Law on July 18, 2022, 01:04:30 PM
After taking a long break I got back into things and made it to bottom of the haligtree.  Malenia is strong, sheíd be my type of lady if it werenít for all the crotch rot.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Tuckers Law on July 21, 2022, 08:03:44 AM
Got to Elden Boss finally, so now I feel very comfortable in saying this game has the worst bosses in all the From souls games.  So rare that any are actually fun to fight and most are just fully stacked bullshit made to be overcome with (valid) cheese strats.

Very fun game, but I wouldnít blame anyone for giving up on it at any point.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on July 21, 2022, 09:12:20 AM
I'm so ready to finish this game up.  Enjoying my time with it, but the backlog is growing.. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on July 23, 2022, 10:38:27 AM
Played some Elden Ring today after not having played it for weeks.

I noticed right away that the performance on Xbox has been greatly increased. Loading times too. It's a night and day difference.
Farmed some runes up on the Atlus Plateau and beat some caves.

Also found out that
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The wolves absolutely destroy the black something assassins even if they hide themselves  :lol
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Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on July 24, 2022, 01:29:59 PM
The crazy combat of Metal Gear Solid Revengeance has really increased the level of my parry skills.
Went from Level 75 to level 80 in like ~3 hours.

My Faith built is finally coming together, the Sword of Night and Flame is very powerful indeed.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on July 24, 2022, 01:59:45 PM
Lit the erdtree and just defeated the lightening dragon near that tornado castle area.  Just slowly making my way through.  Got the Rivers of Blood, but my Arcane is only at a 10 (it requires 20).  Not sure if I want to even bother with respecing just to use it, although it seems like a lot of people swear by it.  I may just say f it and bird farm to get it to 20.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on July 24, 2022, 02:30:51 PM
Lit the erdtree and just defeated the lightening dragon near that tornado castle area.  Just slowly making my way through.  Got the Rivers of Blood, but my Arcane is only at a 10 (it requires 20).  Not sure if I want to even bother with respecing just to use it, although it seems like a lot of people swear by it.  I may just say f it and bird farm to get it to 20.

If you are happy with your current weapon and build don't bother respecing for it.

I was already running a dual katana build the whole game so changing to a better katana was worth the respec. I don't think the weapon in itself is anything special but it's R2 attack is extremely fucking good. Great range/spread/pretty fast and bleed kills like crazy. Though it doesn't hit stun so you gotta kill quick or back off.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on July 24, 2022, 06:51:51 PM
Lit the erdtree and just defeated the lightening dragon near that tornado castle area.  Just slowly making my way through.  Got the Rivers of Blood, but my Arcane is only at a 10 (it requires 20).  Not sure if I want to even bother with respecing just to use it, although it seems like a lot of people swear by it.  I may just say f it and bird farm to get it to 20.

If you are happy with your current weapon and build don't bother respecing for it.

I was already running a dual katana build the whole game so changing to a better katana was worth the respec. I don't think the weapon in itself is anything special but it's R2 attack is extremely fucking good. Great range/spread/pretty fast and bleed kills like crazy. Though it doesn't hit stun so you gotta kill quick or back off.
Doing more a Faith build myself (started as Confessor), I still really like the feel of the Sword of N&F.  It's plenty fast for counters and on certain enemies, the magic does wonders.  When it isn't effective, I fall back to the slow, but lethal, Bloodhound's Fang.  The bloodhound w/ the talisman that increases attack power with successive attacks seems to be quite effective, albiet slow to pull off.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on August 02, 2022, 11:39:25 AM
Defeated Commander Niall and moved on to the Consecrated Snowfield.  Before tackling it though, I decided to suck it up and try and take on Astel again... Absolutely destroyed it this time.  :rejoice

So now that I got Ranni's side stuff locked down, I continued on exploring the upper portion of Lucaria via Ainsel Deep.  Now Alecto, black knife guy is kicking my ass.. Had to stop there for now...

How does this game just keep going? The more I think about b-lining, the more places I remember I still need to explore!  I really would like to finish this game by the end of this month at the rate I'm going..
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Boogie on August 05, 2022, 10:21:19 PM
Played some Elden Ring today after not having played it for weeks.

I noticed right away that the performance on Xbox has been greatly increased. Loading times too. It's a night and day difference.
Farmed some runes up on the Atlus Plateau and beat some caves.

Also found out that
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The wolves absolutely destroy the black something assassins even if they hide themselves  :lol
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Well, my performance on my PC is still complete horseshit.  ::)
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 06, 2022, 08:50:10 AM
There's a mod that removes the erd tree and improves performance by shit loads

https://www.eurogamer.net/elden-ring-modder-cuts-erdtree-to-improve-frame-rate
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Nintex on August 06, 2022, 09:06:41 AM
Now do the castle in Mario 64 lmao
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on August 07, 2022, 04:45:52 AM
Knocked out the majority of the Capital Sewers and the shunning grounds.  Also covered most of the Consecrated Snowfields. (Fought Astel AGAIN!). Chipping away at Farum Azula.  At the bridge before the Erdtree knight and the boss gate.  This game is nuts, but the fatigue is starting to show.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on August 07, 2022, 11:03:11 AM
There's a mod that removes the erd tree and improves performance by shit loads

https://www.eurogamer.net/elden-ring-modder-cuts-erdtree-to-improve-frame-rate

That is hilarious.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on August 08, 2022, 10:44:36 AM
Holy Crap... The Draconic Tree Sentinel  before  Maliketh gave me the hardest time yet since trying Astel early on...  After changing out my load out several times over the course of 45 minutes, finally found an ash of war that would stun him in two hits.  Fortunately, that same stun move worked on Maliketh too. Tried using the highly suggested Blasphemous Claw parry trick, but my muscle memory wouldnít allow it. LOL  Needless to say, Maliketh was much easier than that Tree Sentinel.   

Then from there,  went and stumbled immediately unto fighting...
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Sir GideonÖ Was this a joke fight?  That was sad how easy he was.
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Made some good progress otherwiseÖ And now, I have no clue where to go. I think I should be heading to the erdtree entrance?  Now with Lyndell being ďdifferentĒ I probably have to explore around to find that entrance.  Need to find out where/if there's a point of no return so I can wrap up side stuff prior... I may actually finish this game before the end of August.  :D
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 08, 2022, 01:43:28 PM
You are at the end, assuming you've done the Haligtree already.  The point of no return is after the final boss, and you can save after the boss. 
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on August 08, 2022, 01:53:49 PM
Yeah, if you beat

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Gideon
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That is the end. You're like 30 mins from the ending. But you can play post-game and do whatever you want and go to NG+ at any time.


Also yeah, that Draconic Sentinel is fucking HARD. On like 2 of my 3 run builds it was a very hard fight, I think it was my shield and spear build that made it real easy.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on August 08, 2022, 04:56:47 PM
Oh wow... Now realizing I haven't done Mohgywn Palace and that whole area yet...  :doge :doge :doge  Only thing I've done there is bird farmage.  :D
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 08, 2022, 06:03:51 PM
Oh wow... Now realizing I haven't done Mohgywn Palace and that whole area yet...  :doge :doge :doge  Only thing I've done there is bird farmage.  :D

It's a pretty small area.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on August 08, 2022, 07:03:22 PM
Oh wow... Now realizing I haven't done Mohgywn Palace and that whole area yet...  :doge :doge :doge  Only thing I've done there is bird farmage.  :D

It's a pretty small area.
Good. lol
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on August 09, 2022, 12:31:42 PM
Changes in the Latest Update 1.06...


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Additional elements

    Added the function to send summoning signs to summoning pools in multiple areas, including distant areas.

※When sending a co-op sign to distant areas with this function, summoning pools in "Mohgwyn Palace" will be excluded

Added the function to invade a larger area, including distant areas

    Added a new way to advance White Mask Varre's questline other than participating in multiplayer invasion by defeating a new NPC


Balance Changes

    Added the following adjustments to Greatsword, Curved Greatsword and Great Hammers:
    Reduced the time it takes for rolling to become possible after an attack (Jump attack, dual wield attack and attacks while mounted not included)
    Increased the motion speed of strong attack and charge attack (mounted attacks not included)
    Increased Guard Counter's motion speed
    Increased the attack speed of Great Axes and reduced the time it takes for rolling to become possible after an attack (Jump attack, dual wield attack and attacks while mounted not included)
    Increased rolling distance when player has a light equip load.
    Increased the hitbox of Cipher Pata's weapon skill "Unblockable Blade"
    Increased the range of Ash of War "Glintstone Pebble" and "Glintstone Dart" projectile while decreasing the damage and stagger power
    Decreased the travel distance and invincibility frames of Ash of War "Bloodhound Step" while adding the changes below:

・Reduced performance when used continuously

・Increased travel distance when on light equip load

    Shortened the activation interval when using "Quick Step" skill in succession, increasing its ability to circle around the enemy when locked-on and add the changes below:

・Reduced performance when used continuously

・Increased travel distance when on light equip load

    Decreased the damage and bleed build-up of weapon skill "Corpse Piler" when hit with the blood attack. When hit by the blade, the damage is only decreased slightly
    Decreased the target tracking ability of sorcery "Stars of Ruin"


Bug Fixes

    Fixed a bug which caused some attacks of "Lucerne" to not pierce enemy's guard
    Fixed a bug which made it harder for a two-handed jump attack with "Bloodhound's Fang" to break enemy's stance
    Fixed a bug which caused the effect of "Determination" and "Royal Knight's Resolve" to disappear after using the "Parry" skill with a dagger
    Fixed a bug when dual wielding Axe and Greataxe which caused additional effects from Spells, Weapon Skills and Items to not be applied correctly
    Fixed a bug when two-handing a Halberd which made it harder to withstand enemy's attack after using guard counter
    Fixed a bug which caused the physical attack affinity of some weapons to be different from the affinity listed in the description.
    Fixed a bug which caused the player to become more easily noticed by the enemy when wearing "Deathbed Dress", even when crouching
    Fixed a bug which caused charge attack with flail to damage ally character when wearing "Deathbed Dress"
    Fixed a bug that caused HP to regenerate when switching your equipment to certain type of armor
    Fixed a bug where the effect added to the weapon upon using "Mists of Slumber" was lost when the player receive an attack
    Fixed a bug which caused the playable character's movement to become unstable upon hitting certain enemies with the skill "Ghostflame Ignition"
    Fixed a bug which prevented player from using "The Queen's Black Flame" skill's follow-up attack when performing the skill with insufficient FP
    Fixed a bug with the weapon skill "Zamor Ice Storm" which allowed player to more easily withstand enemy's attack when using the skill with insufficient FP
    Fixed a bug which caused the effect of spells and items added to right-hand armament to occur when using certain weapon skills with left hand.
    Fixed a bug which caused the FP consumption description of certain weapon skills to be different from its actual FP cost
    Fixed a bug that allows "Rock Blaster" to not consume any FP when used with a staff on the left hand and no weapon on the right hand
    Fixed a bug which caused the charged version of "Black Flame Ritual" to consume the same amount of stamina as the normal version
    Fixed a bug which caused the player to receive less HP recovery from incantations and items other than "Flask of Crimson Tears" when activating the effect of "Malenia's Great Rune"
    Fixed a bug which caused the "Opaline Hardtear" to not boost physical damage negation
    Fixed a bug which prevented the player from jumping mid-air while riding under specific condition
    Fixed a bug which allowed jump attack with Colossal Weapons while mounted to hit twice consecutively
    Fixed a bug which caused some signs to appear more than once in the Summoning Pool
    Fixed a bug which caused the effect of some weapon skill's attack to persist under specific circumstances
    Fixed a bug which sometimes caused significant performance issue at "Ordina, Liturgical Town" under certain circumstances
    Fixed a bug which prevented the player from picking up dropped Runes upon death under certain circumstances
    Fixed a bug which allowed users to reach certain inaccessible area during multiplayer
    Fixed a bug which caused the multiplayer area to have different boundary than expected
    Fixed a bug that causes some enemies to have incorrect visuals and behaviors.
    Fixed a bug that caused incorrect sounds to be played under certain circumstances.
    Fixed a bug which caused some areas to make the player unable to move which lead to death
    Fixed a bug that caused some places on the map to have incorrect visuals and hitboxes.
    Fixed a bug in some maps that allowed users to reach unexpected locations using certain procedures.
    Fixed a bug with the PC version which caused click input to occur when equipping Staves or Sacred Seals and switching Windows to active.
    Other performance improvements and bug fixes.



Other

    Added the "ERROR" text to unauthorized items
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on August 09, 2022, 12:54:24 PM
Yeah, Rivers of Blood and Bloodhound Step finally nerfed.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on August 09, 2022, 01:18:15 PM
Yeah, Rivers of Blood and Bloodhound Step finally nerfed.
Glad I just stuck with my build as you suggested and didn't waste time building arcane for Rivers of Blood.  :whew


And now with Increased Guard Counter's motion speed, if this will enhance my counter with the Bloodhound's Fang...  :cody
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on August 09, 2022, 02:06:05 PM
And now with Increased Guard Counter's motion speed, if this will enhance my counter with the Bloodhound's Fang...  :cody

It should. Bloodhoung is a greatsword, right? Sounds like this patch buffs all the bigger/slower weapons.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Svejk on August 09, 2022, 02:27:06 PM
And now with Increased Guard Counter's motion speed, if this will enhance my counter with the Bloodhound's Fang...  :cody

It should. Bloodhoung is a greatsword, right? Sounds like this patch buffs all the bigger/slower weapons.
Yeah, it's a curved greatsword with an awesome Bloodhound Finesse skill... it's like Bloodhound's step, but with an attack built in.
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: MMaRsu on August 09, 2022, 03:45:26 PM
Cant fix the bad performance ey?
Title: Re: GRRM x From = Elden Ring
Post by: Bebpo on August 09, 2022, 03:55:32 PM
Have they ever patched performance in their games before?

The feeling I get is that they just don't give a shit.