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Title: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: chronovore on May 24, 2019, 12:51:48 AM
I've been running DnD 5e lately for Cormacaroni, and we are having a blast. In turn, he's lured me into the lurid world of professional voice actor APs via Critical Role.

Anyone else into this stuff right now?

Also, from elsewhere:
I prefer D&D  :hmph

Which setting?
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: Momo on May 24, 2019, 01:07:14 AM
I play published AD&D 2nd campaigns with noobs (mostly Mystara and some Ravenloft), but I have a glorious DM for that nutsack riding thrills of avoiding underbush goblin gankers :rejoice
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 24, 2019, 01:24:24 AM
CR is amazing - you doing campaign 1 or 2?

I'm DM for the first time, doing waterdeep dragon hiest
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 24, 2019, 08:29:49 AM
I have a coworker who’s big into Critical Role


So I already hear way too much about it and won’t be participating in this thread  :hmph
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: thisismyusername on May 24, 2019, 09:00:17 AM
So I already hear way too much about it and won’t be participating in this thread  :hmph

!roll 1d20

Natural 20.

You continue to participate in the thread.
---

Anyway, I haven't been playing DnD, I've been playing Genesys (https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/products/genesys/). Which is similar, but more focused on narrative gameplay than number-crunching/tactics. Which has been REALLY good for some unexpected consequences.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: Momo on May 24, 2019, 11:07:46 AM
Legit had a dm once pull a pair of dice out his underwear
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: thisismyusername on May 27, 2019, 06:52:18 AM
Quote from: 4chan
Anonymous  05/26/19(Sun)15:41:07 No.66430875
>"I roll to seduce"
>but your character is straight
>"But he is not,right?I should be able to at least roll"
Would you allow it?If you do,would you give penalty to his seduction roll?

Quote
Anonymous  05/26/19(Sun)15:48:06 No.66430963
I would want the player to roleplay the seduction, not rollplay. Seduce me, seduce the DM and you have your success.

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Anonymous  05/27/19(Mon)01:37:48 No.66438816
>>66430875 (OP)
This is terribly mean of me, but I've had something like this before.

> "I want to seduce the widow."
> "Sure, what do you say?"

Dead silence. You could hear a pin drop. There was a long, unbearable moment as I stared at the player, and the others actually began to stare, too. One guy began recording.

> "Can I just roll for it?"
> "Later. Exactly what do you tell her?"

More silence. Then:
> "Y-your hair and eyes look really pretty in the moonlight."

I couldn't help it. I laughed, and the rest of the table laughed too. The kind of nervous 'Did I just fucking hear that' kind of laughter of a childhood humiliation. I laughed for a bit, then went:

> "Whew, okay, let's take a break here. We can roll later."

I went for a piss break, and when I came back, the player said:

> "Can I take that back? I don't want to seduce her."

Usually, I'm a 'no takebacks' GM, but I just said "Yeah, that's probably for the best". But at this point, the damage had been done, and the other PCs (whenever a female NPC showed up) kept asking if he wanted to try and seduce her.

I felt a little bad, but not that bad.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: TVC15 on May 27, 2019, 09:33:47 PM
I want to play :(
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: TVC15 on May 28, 2019, 12:06:05 PM
I do own a lot of the 5e books. I’d be curious about running something if I’d done it in the past twenty years. I’m nervous now.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: Momo on May 28, 2019, 12:28:23 PM
It's hard but it can be done over Skype, mostly the scheduling is hard. Positive side, can live stream on chaturbate for tips
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: thisismyusername on May 28, 2019, 04:31:25 PM
Roll20, Discord, etc. will work.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 28, 2019, 06:36:28 PM
If we can play by text here, I can DM - probably be Waterdeep: Dragon Heist. 

I don't know how maps and combat work over text. 
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: thisismyusername on May 28, 2019, 07:03:05 PM
If we can play by text here, I can DM - probably be Waterdeep: Dragon Heist. 

I don't know how maps and combat work over text.

I mean there's been numerous play by post forum games (no here but elsewhere/online) for ages.

Just use a roller program or have the DM physically roll for all checks (maybe) if you don't trust the players doing that themselves.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: TVC15 on May 28, 2019, 08:30:23 PM
plz save me

(https://i.imgur.com/XcYo2Nj.jpg)
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 28, 2019, 08:32:01 PM
what is wrong with you?
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: TVC15 on May 28, 2019, 08:33:49 PM
That’s not even all of em. Two of them are at my desk at work, including the new, hot Ghosts of Saltmarsh. That and the main Undermountain book.

If you ever want a quickie review of something before spilling Too Much Money, let me know.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 29, 2019, 02:20:56 AM
have you read them all?
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: chronovore on May 30, 2019, 10:46:57 PM
CR is amazing - you doing campaign 1 or 2?

I'm DM for the first time, doing waterdeep dragon hiest

I'm up to ep10 of Campaign 2. Not bothering with 1 yet, as there's a guy in the group that I know, know, KNOW will rub me the wrong way. A narcissist rules lawyer who may even have been cheating his die rolls. I'd abandon the podcast in a way that would prevent me from going back.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2019, 11:28:58 PM
If you mean Orion Acaba, he gets booted off the show early on.

It was a big drama  https://stabbykiri.tumblr.com/post/176608513111/wait-wait-wait-what-did-orion-do
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: chronovore on June 03, 2019, 02:32:40 AM
If you mean Orion Acaba, he gets booted off the show early on.

It was a big drama  https://stabbykiri.tumblr.com/post/176608513111/wait-wait-wait-what-did-orion-do

Yeah, that's the guy. Cormacaroni showed me some early episodes when he was trying to hook me into the show (successfully, I'm a fan but not to an extreme). Orion was clearly hogging spotlight, interrupting, doing all kinds of bad stuff that I can't stand, and to which I won't subject myself.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: chronovore on June 03, 2019, 02:34:20 AM
BTW, played a fully improvised session on Sunday, it went about 5 hours. SO MUCH DAMNED FUN.

Also managed to sow seeds of worry, based on previous adventures, for what's coming next. I could see the wheels turning.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 03, 2019, 02:41:08 AM
This is one of those things I never have done

On one hand, seems cool, on the other hand I can't imagine taking it seriously
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: chronovore on June 03, 2019, 10:56:48 AM
This is one of those things I never have done

On one hand, seems cool, on the other hand I can't imagine taking it seriously

Details, please?
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: thisismyusername on June 03, 2019, 12:11:19 PM
This is one of those things I never have done

On one hand, seems cool, on the other hand I can't imagine taking it seriously

Details, please?

"I-I-I-I-I ca-ca-can't b-b-b-be a dork..." The Pole says, on an English knitting board.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: chronovore on June 12, 2019, 12:28:12 AM
:lol

Yeah, well.

There are plenty of RPers who don't take it seriously, even though it's their favorite hobby. Different things make the activity work for different people! ;-)
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: thisismyusername on June 12, 2019, 12:49:17 AM
You forget that Lager is a Sony fan. Looks alone are important to him than fun.

(https://imgur.com/b3b4yuf.jpg)
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 12, 2019, 08:30:58 PM
I couldn’t get into it, but I think it was because my group didn’t really drink or do drugs so, it wasn’t a match  :doge
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: chronovore on June 12, 2019, 09:26:27 PM
I couldn’t get into it, but I think it was because my group didn’t really drink or do drugs so, it wasn’t a match  :doge
I don't understand this. My high school and college friends didn't drink or do drugs -- D&D is what we did instead of those.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: thisismyusername on June 12, 2019, 09:57:00 PM
...Which is the opposite of what Spencer wants. ;) He wants to be smoked out of his gourd and can't remember what is going on like the group I play with.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: chronovore on July 01, 2019, 08:53:25 PM
...Which is the opposite of what Spencer wants. ;) He wants to be smoked out of his gourd and can't remember what is going on like the group I play with.

I need to slow my roll on Sundays. Cormacaroni and I get about 5 beers in, and I can't remember whose turn it is, or why the enemy's doin' what it's doin'.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: chronovore on July 01, 2019, 09:00:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2ZBVw4nTGs
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: kingv on July 02, 2019, 01:21:54 PM
My daughter and I paint minis for fun, and she is really pressing to play some sort of rpg as well (I think she wants to use the minis for something).

I’ve been researching a way to play with her that wont overwhelm the shit out of her. I’m concerned that full fat 5e will have to much maths for her (she’s 7). We do play a modified version of Warhammer Kill Team sometimes where I don’t mess with most of the modifiers or command points... but I’m not really familiar with D&D so I’m not really familiar enough with the rolls to know what to modify.

I have thought about hero kids or No thank you evil as those seem designed for kids.

Not sure if anyone has experience with either. Oh, and I will have to Enlidt my wife to play with us.



Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: chronovore on July 02, 2019, 09:09:47 PM
My daughter and I paint minis for fun, and she is really pressing to play some sort of rpg as well (I think she wants to use the minis for something).

I’ve been researching a way to play with her that wont overwhelm the shit out of her. I’m concerned that full fat 5e will have to much maths for her (she’s 7). We do play a modified version of Warhammer Kill Team sometimes where I don’t mess with most of the modifiers or command points... but I’m not really familiar with D&D so I’m not really familiar enough with the rolls to know what to modify.

I have thought about hero kids or No thank you evil as those seem designed for kids.

Not sure if anyone has experience with either. Oh, and I will have to Enlidt my wife to play with us.

I've heard that one is quite good. There's also a sale on Tiny Dungeon at BundleofHolding.com right now, and it's supposedly pretty simple.

You can also play The Black Hack, an old-skool "revival" type of game with streamlined rules. It's like a page or two, though it can use a bunch of Open Game System content:
https://the-black-hack.jehaisleprintemps.net/
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 02, 2019, 11:48:19 PM
This is one of those things I never have done

On one hand, seems cool, on the other hand I can't imagine taking it seriously

Details, please?

I just think I would have been to self concious as a kid.

Also no one I knew did this
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: Himu on July 02, 2019, 11:50:17 PM
been wanting to join a group for years. haven't played since college.

might pick up 5e and manual when i have the spare change
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: thisismyusername on July 02, 2019, 11:54:47 PM
My daughter and I paint minis for fun, and she is really pressing to play some sort of rpg as well (I think she wants to use the minis for something).

I’ve been researching a way to play with her that wont overwhelm the shit out of her. I’m concerned that full fat 5e will have to much maths for her (she’s 7). We do play a modified version of Warhammer Kill Team sometimes where I don’t mess with most of the modifiers or command points... but I’m not really familiar with D&D so I’m not really familiar enough with the rolls to know what to modify.

I have thought about hero kids or No thank you evil as those seem designed for kids.

Not sure if anyone has experience with either. Oh, and I will have to Enlidt my wife to play with us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGNBRLoQbzw
Do Genesys, IMO. It has special symbols for the "narrative dice system" to where there's less number crunching (she would only need to know what symbols counter what symbols on each of the dice and the 3 split boost/negative system).
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 03, 2019, 12:44:45 AM
You forget that Lager is a Sony fan. Looks alone are important to him than fun.

(https://imgur.com/b3b4yuf.jpg)

The only console I own is the Switch, traded in the PS4 last week

Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: thisismyusername on July 03, 2019, 12:50:59 AM
You forget that Lager is a Sony fan. Looks alone are important to him than fun.

(https://imgur.com/b3b4yuf.jpg)

The only console I own is the Switch, traded in the PS4 last week

You're missing the insult for the trees.

You shouldn't let peoples perceptions of how you look stop you from being a dork if table-top RPG's are something you want to try.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: chronovore on July 03, 2019, 12:56:56 AM
been wanting to join a group for years. haven't played since college.

might pick up 5e and manual when i have the spare change

https://dnd.wizards.com/dungeons-and-dragons/start-playing

There's a bunch of ways to play for free, even without visiting The Internet Store for PDFs of questionable origin.

The basic game SRD has plenty of content; basically anything that was free under the Open Gaming License for D&D 3 is still available for 5e in the SRD:
https://dnd.wizards.com/articles/features/systems-reference-document-srd

Lastly, the app for the game also has the Basic Rules in it, so go nuts.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 03, 2019, 01:44:00 AM
You forget that Lager is a Sony fan. Looks alone are important to him than fun.

(https://imgur.com/b3b4yuf.jpg)

The only console I own is the Switch, traded in the PS4 last week

You're missing the insult for the trees.

You shouldn't let peoples perceptions of how you look stop you from being a dork if table-top RPG's are something you want to try.

No no I got it.

Its not that I would have thought I was a dork, its more the self conciousness of how it is to act. Like I did a a play or two as a kid and that was a bit eeeeeek too.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: kingv on July 03, 2019, 06:04:09 PM
I did some research at lunch and decided to go with Hero Kids. As someone whose main experience with RPGs is video games, it looks pretty cool. It has character sheets and options for equipment and leveling. The mechanics are obviously simplified, but it seems to have most of the basic stuff down.

I’m planning to GM a quick campaign for her and my wife and brother in law tomorrow night since it looks like we will have a rainy 4th.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: thisismyusername on July 11, 2019, 04:28:39 PM
Its not that I would have thought I was a dork, its more the self conciousness of how it is to act. Like I did a a play or two as a kid and that was a bit eeeeeek too.

You don't need to act though. A lot of it is: "Ok, you're in <situation> what are you going to do?"

There's very little LARPing involved unless you're doing an actual LARP, but that's way out of the scope of the thread.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: chronovore on July 11, 2019, 10:15:06 PM
Its not that I would have thought I was a dork, its more the self conciousness of how it is to act. Like I did a a play or two as a kid and that was a bit eeeeeek too.

You don't need to act though. A lot of it is: "Ok, you're in <situation> what are you going to do?"

There's very little LARPing involved unless you're doing an actual LARP, but that's way out of the scope of the thread.

Yeah, I love TTRPGs but I have no interest in trying LARPs.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: chronovore on July 13, 2019, 09:12:11 AM
https://youtu.be/EBqCSseQXsI
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: thisismyusername on July 15, 2019, 12:27:16 AM
Its not that I would have thought I was a dork, its more the self conciousness of how it is to act. Like I did a a play or two as a kid and that was a bit eeeeeek too.

You don't need to act though. A lot of it is: "Ok, you're in <situation> what are you going to do?"

There's very little LARPing involved unless you're doing an actual LARP, but that's way out of the scope of the thread.

Yeah, I love TTRPGs but I have no interest in trying LARPs.

Well I was using LARP as in "improv."  Like actual acting. He's thinking you're going to get into a falsetto voice and say "My elf from the highlands of Woodlandia ran through the wilds and then drew his bow at the nearest enemy." Instead of "*regular voice* Yeah, I'm going to sneak around/flank them and then draw my bow for a sneak attack if possible. *roll to see if pass/fail attempt*"
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: Svejk on July 15, 2019, 05:48:40 PM
Only recently got into some D&D (2nd Ed. atm) only because my 8 year old fell heavily into it.  I love it because he loves it.   Only played some DC back in the day.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: TVC15 on July 15, 2019, 08:14:58 PM
The first two D&D books I edited are out tomorrow. They’re intended to get kids interested in the game, so nobody hear will read them, but I figured this might get me some flex points. I don’t do anything with the REAL books.

(https://i.imgur.com/gvR0hVI.jpg)
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: thisismyusername on July 16, 2019, 09:24:56 AM
You didn't edit Dungeons and Tombs?

Actually looking inside the book on Amazon, it seems like a summerized Monster Guide and stuff. Which could be good for that one guy needing a kid-friendly book, but these don't have stats so... :goty2
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: TVC15 on July 16, 2019, 10:35:54 AM
You didn't edit Dungeons and Tombs?

Actually looking inside the book on Amazon, it seems like a summerized Monster Guide and stuff. Which could be good for that one guy needing a kid-friendly book, but these don't have stats so... :goty2

I did Dungeons and Tombs too, but that isn’t out until later this year. There’s also a fourth one called Wizards and Spells that will be out later.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: naff on August 01, 2019, 08:09:56 PM
Looking to start playing with a group rolling a custom scenario based on the Butlerian Jihad soon  :brain
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: kingv on August 02, 2019, 12:38:09 PM
You didn't edit Dungeons and Tombs?

Actually looking inside the book on Amazon, it seems like a summerized Monster Guide and stuff. Which could be good for that one guy needing a kid-friendly book, but these don't have stats so... :goty2

Oh nice, I might grab those for my kid.

I’m excited to give her some color stories about the people that wrote the book.

“You know, kiddo, that the editor to that book eats old chicken nuggets off the floor?!”
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: chronovore on August 02, 2019, 02:26:32 PM
Wait, THISISMYUSERNAME is David Hasselhoff?
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: thisismyusername on August 02, 2019, 04:33:22 PM
Wait, THISISMYUSERNAME is David Hasselhoff?

You're thinking TVC, bb.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: thisismyusername on August 11, 2019, 10:05:16 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/lVh9TXZ.png)

Quote from: 4chan /tg/
ITT: Times you accidentally activated a player's magical realm.[/url]

Quote from: 4chan /tg/
There was a scene in my game where a player got mind-controlled by a dragon, and I forgot that he had both a dragon fetish and a mind control fetish.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: thisismyusername on August 24, 2019, 10:32:10 PM
*lights the Toku and Lager signal*

youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLUkxbIkknLuQJJRwEbV5z2WFt6hs9Rxy
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: chronovore on August 25, 2019, 10:02:27 PM
Ran a 7-hour classic-ass, undead-riddled dungeon crawl in D&D 5e on a physical gaming table yesterday, for Cormacaroni and others. This was the 2nd full session in the dungeon, which ran a total of 13 hours of game time. Exhausting, but totally worth it.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: chronovore on August 27, 2019, 04:09:10 AM
So apparently ur-father Gygax was a douchecanoe?
https://kotaku.com/dungeons-deceptions-the-first-d-d-players-push-back-1837516834
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: thisismyusername on August 27, 2019, 09:36:20 AM
I'm not seeing that from the article. It's more "he stole the idea from this guy that created the idea via various games."

Kinda sounds like co-writers bashing on each other years later because they took pieces of each others works and then published it.

Quote
Gygax read through Arneson’s notes. “Halfway through the reading,” Kuntz said, “Gary… nonchalantly said, ‘This needs to be rewritten.’ Not one nice thing to say about Dave, the adventure the rules. This is when it all switches.”

“He was jealous. Just stone-cold jealous.”

I mean, that's fuzzy history, they may think he was being a dick when he was simply stating "if you want to sell this, you'll need to rewrite it to make clear/etc." which would make sense as games designer.

Quote
“Gary at this point is wanting to desperately latch onto some sort of game to make himself a success,” said Stormberg. “He really sees the potential in this and latches onto the idea to make it into something that can be shared. As it is, it’s something that can be enjoyed when Dave runs a game for his friends. But until Gary Gygax gets a hold of it, it can’t be shared with the masses.”

“It was intuited and put together by the genius Arneson, like a mad alchemist,” said Kuntz. “If there’s any good thing you could say about Gary, you could say he knew when to move on a good idea and had the wherewithal to make it happen.”

Yeah, this is a game designer wanting a name-recognition product and just "stealing" the idea from someone else. This happens nearly all the time, and sucks, but I don't think it makes him a "dick" for doing that. Like the second paragraph says: Arneson was the idea man, but he didn't see it as something that could be "sold." Gygax did.

OHHHHHH, ok, the last like.... 20% of the article starts to go into Gygax like publically freaking out about the company he created being "hostile takeover'd" by the other folks.

Quote
“The biggest problem with the whole Dungeons & Dragons thing is the desire to claim ownership for the invention of D&D created a schism between Arneson and Gygax,” Morgan said. The two even ran their own D&D games differently in 1975, Gygax wrote in an issue of Alarums & Excursions. “Dave and I disagree on how to handle any number of things, and both of our campaigns differ from the ‘rules’ found in DandD.”

Arneson had designed a way to organize the imagination and foster communal storytelling; Gygax had designed a way to ground it in wargaming traditions, package and sell that. Today, the Chainmail-inspired rules Gygax mixed in with D&D’s prototype are quite altered, while Arneson’s initial role-playing conceit, and the variability of rulesets encouraged by his Minnesota friends, is what defines the genre.

In the end Arneson won out because rules-crunching/wargaming isn't something people want to do when they role-play, they just want to get into cool situations and then try to roll dice quickly to get through the combat scenarios.

Quote
“I don’t think it was his plan as a kid, as a young adult, to become some entrepreneurial game designer,” said Malia Arneson, Dave Arneson’s daughter, of her father in Secrets of Blackmoor.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: chronovore on August 28, 2019, 04:42:12 AM
Yeah, I found a reasonable rebuttal which proved that I should've known that Kotaku would be providing the most incendiary take possible:
https://www.enworld.org/threads/rob-kuntz-recounts-the-origins-of-d-d.666966/page-3#post-7795823
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: thisismyusername on September 06, 2019, 11:34:02 PM
I'm wanting to remake the OG Netrunner TCG->Netrunner runs in Cyberpunk 2020 rules for the Android: Netrunner variant in Genesys, but reading the Bartmoss Blowout (before reading the 2020 Netrunner rules again) is :doge

I also worry that making servers/"dataforts" and then rez'ing ICE/playing a mini-game within a game during combat would take forever.

Something Cyberpunk RED is attempting to fix (thereby making the Hacker/Runner be a part of the "SpecOp"/team on-site instead of in a fridge/etc. miles away) and SotB kinda avoids with "you can make structured encounters that'll use simplified Netrunning rules in the middle of combat scenarios" but the idea of using my LCG cards to in a roleplay and having them indicate my rig and all that in runs is so intoxicating that I want to do it. Diety help me. I miss Netrunner. :(

There's also translating certain cards/terms like this:

(https://gibsongarbagefiles.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/netrunner-arasaka-owns-you.jpg?w=365)

to something like this:

(http://www.cardgamedb.com/forums/uploads/an/med_ADN22_32.png)

(Arasaka Owns You is wayyyyyyy fucking strong, IMO, off-hand without playing the OG Netrunner. Being able to avoid a game-over/flat-line, remove traces [which can lead to killing you] getting a full hand AND removing brain damage/-X hand-size maximums is busted. The -3 Agenda Points hurts but in Android's variant you get those back pretty quick if you're on the ball to where that's not a huge loss)
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: kingv on September 07, 2019, 12:02:33 AM
I bought one of the TVC edited books.

Enjoy the dank royalties.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: thisismyusername on September 14, 2019, 06:38:24 AM
Quote from: 4chan
Anonymous 09/13/19(Fri)17:38:35 No.68343949
>he expects the commoners to praise him for being a hero
Let's be honest here, most people would think of adventurers the same way most people think of modern soldiers, a necessary job reserved for dumbasses.

Really made me :thinking

(Chrono, I shouldn't be the one hawking TTRPG's for your thread. Start posting your DM'ing adventures to inspire me to actually get my Genesys shit done.)
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: kingv on September 14, 2019, 09:26:22 AM
Not sure if you guys ever read the book series NPCs by Drew Hayes but it’s kind of a fun take on tabletop games. Basically it’s from the perspective of characters that are (or at least start as) NPCs.

They see the adventurers as sort of mercurial and strange. Also remark about a phenomenon where adventurers will sometimes have a string of incredibly good or incredibly bad luck.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: thisismyusername on September 19, 2019, 10:19:47 PM
Humbles apparently doing an RPG adventure bundle. I dunno any of the ones they have listed. So...  :doge
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: chronovore on September 20, 2019, 01:54:13 AM
Quote from: 4chan
Anonymous 09/13/19(Fri)17:38:35 No.68343949
>he expects the commoners to praise him for being a hero
Let's be honest here, most people would think of adventurers the same way most people think of modern soldiers, a necessary job reserved for dumbasses.

Really made me :thinking

(Chrono, I shouldn't be the one hawking TTRPG's for your thread. Start posting your DM'ing adventures to inspire me to actually get my Genesys shit done.)
I've been on break for the past month! I'll start posting more, shortly.

Humbles apparently doing an RPG adventure bundle. I dunno any of the ones they have listed. So...  :doge
https://bundleofholding.com is the humblebundle of TTRPGs. They have legitimately great stuff up about 1/2 the time. My decorative PDF collection has swollen.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: Momo on September 25, 2019, 08:45:20 AM
had a local game come up, but was too busy to go :(
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: chronovore on October 01, 2019, 03:11:30 AM
had a local game come up, but was too busy to go :(

Well, at least you didn't nope-out due to lesser reasons, such as laziness or anxiety! I've had both of those.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: thisismyusername on October 03, 2019, 11:20:28 PM
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/10/dd-licious-wendys-now-has-a-tabletop-rpg-and-the-villain-is-frozen-beef/
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: thisismyusername on October 05, 2019, 05:15:27 PM
As expected, drama over the above: https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/ddaove/wendys_releases_a_burgercentric_rpg_and_rpg_nerds/
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: chronovore on October 06, 2019, 09:51:55 PM
I ran Cormacaroni and his daughter through what may be our penultimate session yesterday. They had fled a horrible city under the rule of a tyrant queen, tasked by the estranged City Guard Field Marshall with finding an item and keeping it away from the queen. They'd been under a ticking clock, pushing their way through a dungeon before the queen's enforcers might catch up with them, harried to the point of Cormacaroni's sorceror having no-remaining-spell-slots for three sessions in a row, due to being unable to take a Long Rest.

Their mission was successful, and as of the beginning of the most recent session, I put them in a small hamlet which seems to have an unusual wealth level for its location and apparent lack of economic advantage. But we spent the whole session just describing a meal and NPC interactions in a superb bed-and-breakfast style inn. Not a single dice was rolled. It was pretty great.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: thisismyusername on October 07, 2019, 06:46:07 AM
How did you run the timer? Making turns in a battle? Just winging it?
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: chronovore on October 08, 2019, 01:00:41 AM
How did you run the timer? Making turns in a battle? Just winging it?

They never knew exactly how much time was on the clock, only that a competing force was heading toward the same goal.

tl;dr: When they took actions that would increase or decrease their lead, I would give them a range of hours that it was likely to affect the other team.

Longer version: The near midnight in game-time, mission-giver told them that the competing team would leave at first light. Gave them a cart and horses and supplies and said, "If you leave now, you'll have up to a 6 hour head start. The more you push yourselves, the greater your lead will increase." They forewent a night's sleep that first night, kept their 6 hour lead. Tried it a 2nd night, and ended up Exhausted (https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Conditions#content). One of them had already been level-1 Exhausted before setting out, so she became 2nd-level Exhausted, and the other just 1st-level. But they'd gained another 6 hours or so.

Knowing they'd be screwed if they had to face challenges Exhausted and out of spells/abilities, they decided to rest once at an inn. After that, they kept pushing. They made it to the goal first, cleared the entire dungeon in three sessions, but due to IRL time running combat vs. in-game time, they only took a couple hours in-game to clear it.

If I were going to do it again, I'd use Blades in the Dark Clocks for this, give them a four-segment Clock to have the competing team catch up, and a four- or six-segment Clock to chart progress toward the goal. Whichever one fills first, based on their actions and mistakes, would determine who makes it.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 05, 2019, 03:06:48 PM
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/criticalrole/critical-role-the-legend-of-vox-machina-animated-s/posts/2674520


Their kickstarter just turned into a Amazon show.  Pretty cool.

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Our friends at Amazon have partnered with us to broadcast Critical Role: The Legend of Vox Machina exclusively on Amazon Prime Video! And that’s not all… This partnership has allowed us to create TWO ENTIRE SEASONS and an additional TWO episodes per season. That’s a total of 24 episodes of animated Vox Machina goodness that we cannot wait to share with you.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: thisismyusername on November 05, 2019, 04:25:16 PM
I can't wait for the drama of them doing a one-shot Bezo's adventure. :doge
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: thisismyusername on January 26, 2020, 11:55:46 PM
So, We finally started our Genesys campaign after like a year of hemming and hawing about it.

And first roll into it: I get a failure and advantage. So my social check on trying to find the NPC's motivation has me basically staring at them like an idiot with a crush while this mohawked information broker is telling us the job. :doge :lol #JustLikeMyAmericanAnimes

DM/GM apparently has the idea of running his "episodes" (of which there's... 10-11?) in a week, or so of doing it via Discord text-postings. Given how long the practice session one-shot was with 3 players (a week), I'm a little dubious about that timeline but we'll see how it plays out. I'm just glad that after buying the Core Rulebook and Shadow of the Beanstalk/Android source-book we're actually using it, as a Netrunner player.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: chronovore on February 11, 2020, 07:21:25 PM
So, We finally started our Genesys campaign after like a year of hemming and hawing about it.

And first roll into it: I get a failure and advantage. So my social check on trying to find the NPC's motivation has me basically staring at them like an idiot with a crush while this mohawked information broker is telling us the job. :doge :lol #JustLikeMyAmericanAnimes

DM/GM apparently has the idea of running his "episodes" (of which there's... 10-11?) in a week, or so of doing it via Discord text-postings. Given how long the practice session one-shot was with 3 players (a week), I'm a little dubious about that timeline but we'll see how it plays out. I'm just glad that after buying the Core Rulebook and Shadow of the Beanstalk/Android source-book we're actually using it, as a Netrunner player.

It's always good to be gaming. Even sparse, unevenly distributed, play-by-post bs is better than not-gaming.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: chronovore on April 12, 2020, 04:11:44 AM
https://dnd.wizards.com/remote/freematerial

Free D&D materials for the shelter at home peeps.

Finally saw the D&D episode of Community. That was a heap of fun.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: thisismyusername on April 12, 2020, 10:01:43 AM
https://dnd.wizards.com/remote/freematerial

Free D&D materials for the shelter at home peeps.

"Please note that certain adventures are being made free on the DMs Guild for a limited time, so be sure to grab them now while you can!"

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/da72c6ae39f6b12a9808b25db1a03880/tenor.gif?itemid=5875556)

They did the same thing with that level 1 adventure last week.

Edit: Oh some of them are free to keep via the DriveThruRPG clone store. :doge Silver linings.

Quote
Finally saw the D&D episode of Community. That was a heap of fun.

...You're not in the same Discord I'm in, are you? Someone else literally said that a few days ago. :doge
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: chronovore on April 12, 2020, 07:46:54 PM
Community just returned to Netflix, so they’re likely going through it at a similar pace as I am.

I’m on TheBore discord but I find discord as a format disorienting so I don’t check in much.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: thisismyusername on April 12, 2020, 08:20:12 PM
It's just IRC with Twitter, Website, and Image embeds. :doge
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: chronovore on April 13, 2020, 04:10:11 AM
"Please note that certain adventures are being made free on the DMs Guild for a limited time, so be sure to grab them now while you can!"

You purchase them now, they're always available to you.
They may not be free next week.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: thisismyusername on April 13, 2020, 12:08:02 PM
"Please note that certain adventures are being made free on the DMs Guild for a limited time, so be sure to grab them now while you can!"

You purchase them now, they're always available to you.
They may not be free next week.

No, I'm talking the ones that aren't on their DriveThruRPG (which it is, because my account there worked)/Adventure League store. The one's that are a direct PDF like the (last week) DnD beyond freebie.

This one: "DDAL Dungeon Master's Guide: An updated guide to getting started as a Dungeon Master for the Adventurers League." Is a direct link to Wizards.com/WotC. Knowing how WotC changes their servers/shit (Magic: Arena account information leak.history) often, it's possible this isn't going to be available for free too long/keep. You'd have to download and back it up yourself.

"So why don't you do that already?"

I mean, you can. But it's really annoying how Wizard's goes out of their way to make getting digital D20 products a gigantic PITA. Their players guide and dungeon masters guide isn't on DriveThru (or the Adventures League IIRC) but only available in like Roll20, VirtualTableTops like Fantasy Grounds or DnD Beyond.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: chronovore on April 14, 2020, 07:14:57 AM
Tell me a-fucking-bout it.

I try to support digital sales wherever I can AND where it is not actively more a pain-in-the-ass than pirating. I don't want to pirate, I want to support creators and help the industry thrive. I want to prove that it can be easier to sell stuff than pirate it, and I throw money at that model pretty consistently.

HOWEVER, fucking Hasbro / WotC consistently make stuff difficult. The DnD app that has books on it for download? They are available for purchase at the same price as the hardcover books, so they get to sell you the digital edition separately from the physical edition, so you're dropping $100 instead of $50 for each book. On top of that, the books are REGION-LOCKED by physical location, so it wouldn't even let me buy them because I'm standing in Japan. I downloaded some of the samples while in the USA, and then couldn't restore those when I came back to Japan and tried to put them on a different device with the same account.

Yeah, pretty much fuck WotC for making it difficult to purchase stuff honestly.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: thisismyusername on April 14, 2020, 09:33:16 AM
Honestly, I don't get why DnD is so popular. Well, I mean, I do... (Forgotten Realms being pushed mostly/Planescape, etc.) It's just I don't get why the SYSTEM and Wizards is pushed so hard in the TTRPG when there's systems like GURPS (which is just as crunchy as much as you want to be a nerd about that sort of shit), Genesys (which is newer and less crunchy, but "EW PROPRIETARY/WEIRD DICE!") or others that are focused on other systems (Cyberpunk) out there to do work.

But I have seen on /tg/ and other places "can D20 work for <insert non-fantasy genre here that totally doesn't fit the dungeon-crawling murder-hobo'ing of DnD>?" and it's like "why not use another system?" "Because DnD/D20 is popular" "...But you'd be able to get the books/etc. a lot easier digitally, be able to push them to your players easier, have an easier to use system for non-fantasy genres (or time-warping/planeswalking), etc. etc. reasons" and people are like "but DnD is popular!"
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: chronovore on April 20, 2020, 07:26:26 AM
Yeah, D&D is popular mainly due to its cultural relevance from being the first and original TTRPG, plenty of nostalgic Gen X and Gen Y grognards lapping it up still, and thanks lately to Stranger Things and its ilk.

My first RPG was D&D Basic in a box set, but I had no-one to play with. Later AD&D 2nd Ed. was the first one I got to play -- wait, no: black book Traveller was my first, then AD&D.

I'd be lying if I said playing D&D doesn't scratch some of the same itch as listening to music from high school, etc.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: thisismyusername on April 20, 2020, 09:47:40 AM
Right, but d20 (DnD) is so... rigid in it's systems that folks are trying to retrofit sci-fi adventures into it's strict system. Like, a starship captain is gonna have high CON or STR and CHA to do shit which is pretty strict when they need to know how to lead, how to repair a ship/"drive" it, and the like.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: chronovore on April 20, 2020, 10:54:59 AM
Oh, strapping a different genre onto D&D just so the DM doesn't have to learn new rules to run a different flavored game is such lazy bullshit. D&D only does one thing right: be itself.

TSR made a James Bond game back in the day, based on d20 ruleset -- it didn't work.

And GURPS doesn't do D&D well at all! It's a simulation-driven game, and player-characters are always in peril of being one-shotted. There's very little room to get cocky. Meanwhile in D&D, you've got characters who will just walk off a 200 ft tower's top, because the fall won't kill them.

Anyway, yeah: don't play with lazy GMs who won't grow past the most basic system out there.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: thisismyusername on May 04, 2020, 10:27:33 PM
Just so you know (sadly they're timing these now) the free campaigns on DriveThruRPG/DM's Guild are still being given away. I dunno if you got them Chrono, but I've been checking weekly to grab these.
Title: Re: Dungeons and Dragons thread; includes APs like Critical Role
Post by: chronovore on May 05, 2020, 05:33:42 AM
Just so you know (sadly they're timing these now) the free campaigns on DriveThruRPG/DM's Guild are still being given away. I dunno if you got them Chrono, but I've been checking weekly to grab these.

Weird how they're trying to drive day-to-day traffic with these.

I noticed TOR Books also doing this with their free SF book downloads. They had the first four books available for free across consecutive days. The trouble is, if someone misses the first book or two, they're not going to start with the third and fourth book. Why not keep them all free, but make them free in sequence, keeping all of them free until the promotion ends? ???