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Title: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 11, 2019, 09:14:54 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/P6l2CHo.jpg)

Quote from: https://kotaku.com/konami-announces-the-turbografx-16-mini-1835430762
Six titles have been announced so far for North America/Europe:

R-Type
Ys Book I & II
New Adventure Island
Ninja Spirit
Alien Crush
Dungeon Explorer


The Japanese version, meanwhile, has an almost entirely different set of games:

Bonk’s Adventure
Dracula X
The Kung Fu/China Warrior
Ys I & II
Super Star Soldier
Dungeon Explorer

No price or release date yet.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2019, 09:16:16 PM
so cool
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Chooky on June 11, 2019, 09:38:29 PM
this system had a ton of good shit and i've barely touched any of it. extremely interested in this.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Trent Dole on June 11, 2019, 10:32:11 PM
Y'all motherfuckers better put Drac X on the US version. :maf
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: nachobro on June 11, 2019, 10:56:02 PM
5 players :o

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D80oIpoV4AE7Oxf.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: benjipwns on June 11, 2019, 11:06:44 PM
so this means that the TurboGrafx mini is the same size as the PC Engine original?
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: thisismyusername on June 11, 2019, 11:27:47 PM
Y'all motherfuckers better put Drac X on the US version. :maf

...Just PPSSPP/emulate the PSP version.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Bebpo on June 11, 2019, 11:35:29 PM
I played a ton of TG-16 growing up. Mostly Bonk's Adventure & Splatterhouse. idk why Bonk's Adventure is in the Japanese starting lineup but not US? I remember that being like the main mascot platformer of the system. Also Dracula X on the JP list but not US list is a crime.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: bork on June 11, 2019, 11:41:15 PM
I think I'd want the PCE version.  TG-16 is so ugly in comparison, lol.

Also Dracula X on the JP list but not US list is a crime.

Can't see them not including this in the end.  Props to them for including CD games...although I can't help but wonder if this is why we didn't get Dracula X on the Castlevania Anniversary Collection.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Akala on June 11, 2019, 11:45:33 PM
THIS COULD BE INTERESTING.  :o

Another mini on the pile.  :aah
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: benjipwns on June 12, 2019, 12:19:55 AM
I think I'd want the PCE version.  TG-16 is so ugly in comparison, lol.
My favorite thing about the TG-16 is that if you just look at the two, you'd think the TG-16 is just half empty plastic because of how small the PCE is.

But nope, they made a whole new motherboard (which itself is half empty) to fill the thing with:
(http://nfggames.com/games/grafx/PTG_dis_2.jpg)

PCE:
(http://nfggames.com/grafx/pcecdmod8.jpg)
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 12, 2019, 12:24:09 AM
This is the weirdest fucking timeline I swear
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: benjipwns on June 12, 2019, 03:55:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOXlnZqPUuE

dat music
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Occam on June 12, 2019, 04:01:25 AM
I don't get why people are excited for these limited emulator boxes that only contain a select few roms from a single system.
Either get the real thing or just use an emulator. For instance, you can emulate any 8 and 16-bit system on PS Vita and carry around the entire library of each system.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Himu on June 12, 2019, 04:03:06 AM
I don't get why people are excited for these limited emulator boxes that only contain a select few roms from a single system.
Either get the real thing or just use an emulator. For instance, you can emulate any 8 and 16-bit system on PS Vita and carry around the entire library of each system.

because often the emulation is better than the emulation provided by other sources. For Sega for instance, they're done by the same company that has done other Sega Ages ports. Basically, official emulators, especially when it comes to folks like Nintendo and Sega, are generally better.

You used Vita as an example. Well, on 3ds, who provides the almost perfect emulation? Homebrew or Nintendo? Nintendo. That's why when you play 8 or 16 bit game or gba game, converting it to a CIA is always better than emulating it on an emulator. Because official > homebrew.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Occam on June 12, 2019, 04:05:14 AM
So you can play ~10 games slightly better (not a given- many homebrew emulators are close to perfect by now) than the entire library on a free emulator that has far superior options.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Himu on June 12, 2019, 04:07:27 AM
So you can play ~10 games slightly better than the entire library on a free emulator.

Are you daft?

We hack this shit.

You can put the entire library on the snes classic with near pitch perfect emulation.

You Raspberry Pi dudes are feggits.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 12, 2019, 04:09:05 AM
I can't believe a site full of gaming nerds is excited for a gaming doodad.

That Occam's racist principle.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Occam on June 12, 2019, 04:11:55 AM
So you can play ~10 games slightly better than the entire library on a free emulator.

Are you daft?

We hack this shit.

You can put the entire library on the snes classic with near pitch perfect emulation.

You Raspberry Pi dudes are tacos.
I don't have a Raspberry Pi. I own the real thing.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Occam on June 12, 2019, 04:49:26 AM
This is what you can do with a PC, Retroarch and a CRT TV: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5dDAT4fsTXY
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Momo on June 12, 2019, 05:07:40 AM
NO. GO AWAY KONAMI  :brazilcry
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: bork on June 12, 2019, 07:42:21 AM
So you can play ~10 games slightly better than the entire library on a free emulator.

Are you daft?

We hack this shit.

You can put the entire library on the snes classic with near pitch perfect emulation.

You Raspberry Pi dudes are tacos.

You can put the entire library on a Retropie, Android box, or PC, plus all the other libraries, with "near pitch perfect emulation" too.   You could even make the interface look like a SNES Classic or whatever other "classic" system if you wanted to.  The reason it gets brought up so often is because of how well everything works and it eliminates the need to have multiple little emu boxes hooked up. 

That said-
I don't get why people are excited for these limited emulator boxes that only contain a select few roms from a single system.
Either get the real thing or just use an emulator. For instance, you can emulate any 8 and 16-bit system on PS Vita and carry around the entire library of each system.

The nostalgia factor is huge and there is something about getting an official (good/high quality) product in a box that looks just like the system did back then.  Some people also just don't want to get anything that isn't licensed- a friend of mine has bought two Arcade 1up machines despite my showing him what a fully-customized Pie cab looks like and him having interest in it.  Instead he wants to buy a third Arcade 1up cab (TMNT) when it comes out because "it's the real deal" which made me kinda LOL.

Some people also just like to buy all these things and see how the performance compares to each other once they've been hacked.  AFAIK the best emu box out there isn't a Pie build or any of these little official products, but the nVidia Shield TV, which supposedly runs pretty much everything full speed (up through Game Cube) and is super easy to use since you just use Android emulators to run everything.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: thisismyusername on June 12, 2019, 08:02:58 AM
So you can play ~10 games slightly better than the entire library on a free emulator.

Are you daft?

We hack this shit.

...So then you're turning it into... a Raspberry Pi...

Quote
You can put the entire library on the snes classic with near pitch perfect emulation.

...Just like... the Raspberry Pi...

Quote
You Raspberry Pi dudes are tacos.

...Or we're the ones that make sense, save money, and don't need an "official shell" with a terrible PCB when you can just fucking 3D print the shell yourself.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Momo on June 12, 2019, 08:18:45 AM
I have a raspberri Pi 3b+ and wont touch any of this shit until they make a saturn/dreamcast mini that plays actual discs  :hmph :vr
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: demi on June 12, 2019, 08:25:04 AM
I have zero nostalgia for this but I'm curious on the emulation and future hacks.

I love my hacked NES/SNES Classics though.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: bork on June 12, 2019, 08:31:14 AM
I have a raspberri Pi 3b+ and wont touch any of this shit until they make a saturn/dreamcast mini that plays actual discs  :hmph :vr

Yeah...not happening, like ever.  :lol  Saw some rumblings on Twitter that Sega has zero interest in doing a Saturn console since they feel it's too niche due to its lack of popularity.  I bet we see a Dreamcast later on though.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: porkbun on June 12, 2019, 08:46:51 AM
I was one of the few weird nerds that had a TG16 back in the day, so I have some interest in this, even though I have the games on other platforms.  I'll probably end up picking it up when the price gets slashed because no one in the US remembers the TG16.

Quote
Can't see them not including this in the end.  Props to them for including CD games...although I can't help but wonder if this is why we didn't get Dracula X on the Castlevania Anniversary Collection.

It might be because it was fairly recently released on the Requiem Collection.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: paprikastaude on June 12, 2019, 09:04:03 AM
I know nothing about this library.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 12, 2019, 09:12:43 AM
whY DoN't yOu gUys JUst gET a rAsPBerrY pIE
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: nachobro on June 12, 2019, 09:42:42 AM
https://twitter.com/HardDriveMag/status/913772857649278976
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Himu on June 12, 2019, 09:50:20 AM
Uncensor fa.ggot so I can call Retropi niccas fa.ggots.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: paprikastaude on June 12, 2019, 09:51:04 AM
I wish I had the superior intellect of those kiddies who know how to use piratebay :stahp Screw me for being a gaming fan excited about cool collectibles and official products.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 12, 2019, 09:57:05 AM
https://twitter.com/HardDriveMag/status/913772857649278976


Hard Drive the GOAT.  :preach
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Tasty on June 12, 2019, 09:57:25 AM
Uncensor fa.ggot so I can call Retropi niccas fa.ggots.

Doesn't that include bork though? :teehee
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Himu on June 12, 2019, 10:05:03 AM
Real talk the only thing as good as official, real, physical hardware is console maker emulation. Proved time and again with Sony(ps1), Nintendo (everything they make), and Sega (Sega ages). Wii U can play every damn Nintendo game not on 3ds or Switch with precision. Snes emulators on pc still aren’t perfect. Never mind n64. I’m told to just emulate when project64 struggles to play Paper fucking Mario.

Meanwhile, on Wii U.

https://youtu.be/FU4P00_q1pQ

You retropi niccas say to just emulate, you can get Nintendo rom that work on their official emulators made by Nintendo and get stuff that works.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: nachobro on June 12, 2019, 10:06:18 AM
i just get mini consoles (well one, only have snes classic so far) cause i'm lazy and they are kinda cool :yeshrug
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Svejk on June 12, 2019, 10:06:43 AM
My Wii U does all the above with a screen attached.  8)
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Himu on June 12, 2019, 10:08:11 AM
My Wii U does all the above with a screen attached.  8)

I’m hacking a Wii U eventually and it will be glorious.

Hacked my 3ds and I got Fire Emblem gba on it.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Svejk on June 12, 2019, 10:09:14 AM
My Wii U does all the above with a screen attached.  8)

I’m hacking a Wii U eventually and it will be glorious.

Hacked my 3ds and I got Fire Emblem gba on it.
(https://media.tenor.com/images/910146edeae371662a3508dd2a56d251/tenor.gif)
It really is the best.  Overclocked PS1 emu and ehrthang.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: nachobro on June 12, 2019, 10:09:47 AM
My Wii U does all the above with a screen attached.  8)
another excellent choice
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: demi on June 12, 2019, 10:12:44 AM
Real talk the only thing as good as official, real, physical hardware is console maker emulation. Proved time and again with Sony(ps1), Nintendo (everything they make), and Sega (Sega ages). Wii U can play every damn Nintendo game not on 3ds or Switch with precision. Snes emulators on pc still aren’t perfect. Never mind n64. I’m told to just emulate when project64 struggles to play Paper fucking Mario.

Meanwhile, on Wii U.

https://youtu.be/FU4P00_q1pQ

You retropi niccas say to just emulate, you can get Nintendo rom that work on their official emulators made by Nintendo and get stuff that works.

SNES Classic uses the same emulator as 3DS/Wii/U afaik. I've been monitoring and compiling compatibility for it on this spreadsheet. Also includes patches to get games working on it. That said, I haven't -actually- tried any of the emulators on 3DS/Wii/U. Assuming when and if Switch gets SNES games it may use the same emulator (or updated!)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12HKfz4ZQBy6Ip5awvh8t2aV5cVswYlnsdKxn9xoIW2Y/edit#gid=2014317767

Nintendo's emulator (Canoe) also has lower input lag than Retroarch.

https://old.reddit.com/r/miniSNESmods/comments/8w0cg3/input_delay_canoe_vs_retroarch/
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Himu on June 12, 2019, 10:24:21 AM
Nintendo’s emulators are such higher quality. It’s almost like playing the game physical. Yet we are told we are nuts. You can dump the entire snes library on snes Classic and take advantage of Nintendo’s superior emu. But nah, gotta prattle about your retropi. Fuck off.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Himu on June 12, 2019, 10:25:25 AM
Demi to use old reddit go to settings and switch to opt out of design man

And nice links.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: demi on June 12, 2019, 10:28:11 AM
I just use a Chrome extension to do it for me

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/old-reddit-redirect/dneaehbmnbhcippjikoajpoabadpodje
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: demi on June 12, 2019, 10:32:04 AM
Nintendo’s emulators are such higher quality. It’s almost like playing the game physical. Yet we are told we are nuts. You can dump the entire snes library on snes Classic and take advantage of Nintendo’s superior emu. But nah, gotta prattle about your retropi. Fuck off.

You're not wrong but there are some games that don't work on Canoe (again, talking specifically SNES here) - so Retroarch is required. That said, you don't need every snes game available on your Classic. I have roughly 150 games on the system's memory alone, with the option to add/remove as I see fit. Perfectly fine.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Himu on June 12, 2019, 10:35:18 AM
In relation to the tg16 mini who could be making the emu
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Momo on June 12, 2019, 10:36:53 AM
why in the living fuck are you nerds arguing over this :dead
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: demi on June 12, 2019, 10:40:06 AM
I too also interject in conversations on my high horse. Don't you have somewhere depressed to be or something bud. Relax
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: bork on June 12, 2019, 10:57:54 AM
I wish I had the superior intellect of those kiddies who know how to use piratebay :stahp Screw me for being a gaming fan excited about cool collectibles and official products.

What, for collections and images?  Just google "Arcade Punks" and you're set.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: bork on June 12, 2019, 11:09:21 AM
So you can play ~10 games slightly better than the entire library on a free emulator.

Are you daft?

We hack this shit.
Uncensor fa.ggot so I can call Retropi niccas fa.ggots.
Nintendo’s emulators are such higher quality. It’s almost like playing the game physical. Yet we are told we are nuts. You can dump the entire snes library on snes Classic and take advantage of Nintendo’s superior emu. But nah, gotta prattle about your retropi. Fuck off.

Why are you so triggered by this that you're dropping insults?  Nobody is calling you nuts.  Weren't you just posting that you don't want to be so cynical and negative all the time?  JFC.

.....

That same test shows that least amount of input lag is using a Retroarch on a PC. 

https://forums.libretro.com/t/an-input-lag-investigation/4407/588

He was also asked to redo the test with all common sources of input lag removed.  Retropie with adjusted settings beats SNES Classic's Canoe and PC continues to smoke everything.
(https://forums.libretro.com/uploads/default/original/2X/7/7a1cb3b3b477580334118d4ff2bad5c94f8bc2a1.png)

This was also almost a year ago.  All this stuff is constantly updated and may be completely outdated now.

Real talk the only thing as good as official, real, physical hardware is console maker emulation. Proved time and again with Sony(ps1), Nintendo (everything they make), and Sega (Sega ages).

And then Sony fucked up big time with the PS1 Classic.  Sega Ages' level of quality isn't because of Sega- M2 handles those ports.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: demi on June 12, 2019, 11:17:04 AM
I think Himu is referring to Sony's emulator on PSP/Vita/PS3 etc. It's a pretty good emulator, which they unfortunately didn't carry over for the Classic
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: bork on June 12, 2019, 11:18:05 AM
I think Himu is referring to Sony's emulator on PSP/Vita/PS3 etc. It's a pretty good emulator, which they unfortunately didn't carry over for the Classic

Definitely- it's pretty much perfect and is mind-blowing how they couldn't make the Classic work as well.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: paprikastaude on June 12, 2019, 11:28:39 AM
I wish I had the superior intellect of those kiddies who know how to use piratebay :stahp Screw me for being a gaming fan excited about cool collectibles and official products.

What, for collections and images?  Just google "Arcade Punks" and you're set.


:anhuld never thought about that
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: tiesto on June 12, 2019, 11:30:44 AM
Apart from China Warrior on the JP version, that's a sweet lineup of games so far. I don't see why we won't eventually get Super Star Soldier, at least 1 Bonk, and Dracula X.

Dream would be to get a fully translated Ys IV and Tengai Makyou Manjimaru... but for US only releases I'd like to see:
Blazing Lazers, Soldier Blade, Air Zonk, R-Type, Neutopia I and II, Bomberman 93, Dragon's Curse, Legendary Axe I and II, Exile, Syd Mead's Terraforming, Ys III, and Legend of Hero Tonma.

The Turbo is an interesting console, while I find the hucard only game lineup not on the Gen/SNES level, there's lots of fun to be had provided you love shmups.

The CD had some excellent RPGs released for it like Tenshi no Uta, Legend of Xanadu I and II, Startling Odyssey II, Ys IV, and Tengai Makyou II, most didn't get US releases unfortunately.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Himu on June 12, 2019, 11:37:36 AM
yes i am talking about psp/ps3 emulator
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Tasty on June 12, 2019, 11:41:51 AM
Real talk the only thing as good as official, real, physical hardware is console maker emulation. Proved time and again with Sony(ps1), Nintendo (everything they make), and Sega (Sega ages). Wii U can play every damn Nintendo game not on 3ds or Switch with precision. Snes emulators on pc still aren’t perfect. Never mind n64. I’m told to just emulate when project64 struggles to play Paper fucking Mario.

Meanwhile, on Wii U.

https://youtu.be/FU4P00_q1pQ

You retropi niccas say to just emulate, you can get Nintendo rom that work on their official emulators made by Nintendo and get stuff that works.

SNES Classic uses the same emulator as 3DS/Wii/U afaik. I've been monitoring and compiling compatibility for it on this spreadsheet. Also includes patches to get games working on it. That said, I haven't -actually- tried any of the emulators on 3DS/Wii/U. Assuming when and if Switch gets SNES games it may use the same emulator (or updated!)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12HKfz4ZQBy6Ip5awvh8t2aV5cVswYlnsdKxn9xoIW2Y/edit#gid=2014317767

Nintendo's emulator (Canoe) also has lower input lag than Retroarch.

https://old.reddit.com/r/miniSNESmods/comments/8w0cg3/input_delay_canoe_vs_retroarch/

Wii and Wii U use the same emulator? Hmm, wonder if it was an OS issue with Wii U VC games being darker.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: demi on June 12, 2019, 01:26:05 PM

Wii and Wii U use the same emulator? Hmm, wonder if it was an OS issue with Wii U VC games being darker.

In terms of SNES yes I believe they use the same. I think it's different emulator for N64 and such. Is the darken issue on SNES as well?
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Rufus on June 12, 2019, 02:12:25 PM
For Sega for instance, they're done by the same company that has done other Sega Ages ports. Basically, official emulators, especially when it comes to folks like Nintendo and Sega, are generally better.
BSNES/Higan shits on everything and is cycle accurate. Snes9x is really good, too, for devices with less horsepower. Sega systems have been emulated near perfectly as well (GenesisPlusGX) and there's a cycle accurate emulator in development (BlastEm). Emulators have come a long way since the ZSNES days.

These ARM boxes are collector's items.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: D3RANG3D on June 12, 2019, 03:24:44 PM
This and the Genesis mini are the only ones I'm interested in, am pretty shitter shattered about the 3 button controllers for the US version though.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Nintex on June 12, 2019, 05:40:57 PM
Did Nintendo ever fix the bug on Wii U that made everything like 30% darker as if the screen is paused and if you unpause for a brief moment the correct contrast ratio flickers?
Because when I played Wii U VC games it felt like someone had turned off the lights in Nintendoland to save some money or something.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: paprikastaude on June 12, 2019, 05:43:45 PM
Did Nintendo ever fix the bug on Wii U that made everything like 30% darker as if the screen is paused and if you unpause for a brief moment the correct contrast ratio flickers?
Because when I played Wii U VC games it felt like someone had turned off the lights in Nintendoland to save some money or something.

not when I last played it
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Occam on June 13, 2019, 03:07:07 AM
But my superior Nintendo emulation!

By the way, check out CRT shaders for Retroarch that can simulate different types of CRT displays and connections (RF, composite, RGB, s-video).
There don't seem to be any good videos on youtube demonstrating it, but you get the idea if you watch this (in hi res, full screen) https://youtube.com/watch?v=iETAzG0mYBM

At about 6 minutes in, you can see a fantastic RGB CRT shader that's really close to the real thing.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: bork on July 12, 2019, 07:47:04 AM
More games announced- The PCE version has some crazy-good shit on there now like Dracula X and Snatcher.

'Murica:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_P3l-DU8AAbJKp.jpg)

Japan:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_P3m9IU8AECweM.jpg)
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 12, 2019, 09:53:29 AM
https://youtu.be/nWbNzvb_mv8

https://youtu.be/-ng6Aki9wfI
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Himu on July 12, 2019, 09:56:06 AM
How do you make a trailer like this without one clip of a game
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Akala on July 12, 2019, 11:24:39 AM
Are...are we getting both? I don't understand.  :doge
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Bebpo on July 12, 2019, 12:21:22 PM
The American lineup sucks. How do you make this without Splatterhouse? Could they not get the license?

Will grab the JP one if the emulation is good. Is Snatcher better on PC Engine or PS1?
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Himu on July 12, 2019, 12:29:50 PM
Splatterhouse is indeed a necessity but at least it has Ys
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Himu on July 12, 2019, 12:34:22 PM
Are...are we getting both? I don't understand.  :doge

Yeah I’m confused.

The US trailer says 50 games and at the end says 24 TG16 games and 25 PC Engine games. PC engine video lists 25 games so it seems US gets US and JP games bundled in? If so, could be the best mini system.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: paprikastaude on July 12, 2019, 12:41:19 PM
The JP lineup is crazy. I would've bought a Western one if it had translated those titles. Even if Snatcher is also on the US one, what's the point of that game in Japanese.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 12, 2019, 12:44:28 PM
Are...are we getting both?

That seems to be the case.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Bebpo on July 12, 2019, 12:47:17 PM
Kinda random but seeing Kangeroo Bomberman here makes me wish Sega did a Saturn-Mini with 8 player bomberman.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: paprikastaude on July 12, 2019, 01:01:51 PM
I want a Saturn Mini period. :idont It's been long overdue to start milking post 16-bit generations with some proper collections.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Akala on July 12, 2019, 01:52:17 PM
I just saw JP version on the YT thumbnail so guess so but kind of a konami decision. I mean if we end up with everything untranslated hey neato, but if they would actually go back and translate some of this it would sell out instantly.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: paprikastaude on July 12, 2019, 02:37:48 PM
I never got the hesitation with translations. How much do translators get paid that they make ROM dumps apparently unprofitable?
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Himu on July 12, 2019, 03:33:54 PM
I just saw JP version on the YT thumbnail so guess so but kind of a konami decision. I mean if we end up with everything untranslated hey neato, but if they would actually go back and translate some of this it would sell out instantly.

Many of those games on pc engine side are already translated though, just on different systems. Konami has the script for Snatcher Sega CD. They’ve got the script for Dracula X from Dracula X Chronicles PSP. Shit they just recently release DracuX on that collection.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Bebpo on July 12, 2019, 04:38:51 PM
I never got the hesitation with translations. How much do translators get paid that they make ROM dumps apparently unprofitable?

Translations aren't cheap, but still waaaaaaaaaaay cheaper than VA work. I'd guess something between $20,000-$80,000 depending on the game but that may be a little high. I mean if it's a NES action game with like 200 lines of dialogue it's probably closer to like $5k. But like Snatcher would be a lot more. Also this is including the cost of an editor too.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Himu on July 12, 2019, 04:47:34 PM
Snatcher as said, has already been released in English. It’s a matter of dling a script online.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Bebpo on July 12, 2019, 05:05:56 PM
You’re making sense. Videogame companies do not make sense.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: bork on July 12, 2019, 05:24:47 PM
So apparently the units are all exactly the same and will have all the games available.  That means the "50" games includes two of the same titles in English and Japanese.  Konami gonna FucKonami as usual.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhRJwpQKh-M

If true, I'll probably get the PCE version then.  Much better design.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Rufus on July 12, 2019, 05:39:45 PM
I never got the hesitation with translations. How much do translators get paid that they make ROM dumps apparently unprofitable?

Translations aren't cheap, but still waaaaaaaaaaay cheaper than VA work. I'd guess something between $20,000-$80,000 depending on the game but that may be a little high. I mean if it's a NES action game with like 200 lines of dialogue it's probably closer to like $5k. But like Snatcher would be a lot more. Also this is including the cost of an editor too.
Add QA to that.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: paprikastaude on July 12, 2019, 05:52:22 PM
This doesn't even come out for 6 months, they could still change it :goty
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: demi on July 15, 2019, 08:04:02 AM
Amazon Link

https://amzn.to/2k1GJCf

Apparently it's going up for pre-order during Prime Day (#supportamazonworkers)
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Momo on July 15, 2019, 03:22:01 PM
Currently unavailable.
We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock.

:fbm
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Post by: Svejk on July 15, 2019, 03:28:39 PM
No Keith Courage or Bloody Wolf yet?  :larry
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Himu on July 15, 2019, 03:32:16 PM
Currently unavailable.
We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock.

:fbm

it's not up yet. They just put it up. Don't worry. Sign up for an email so you can pre order.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Bebpo on July 15, 2019, 06:25:19 PM
I think I'm gonna pass on this one. I don't trust Konami much at all to not fuck up things and the game list is not the greatest. Plus not out for another half year. I guess if it turns out great I'll give another look at it.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Trent Dole on July 15, 2019, 07:40:18 PM
Sony bungled the psx classic and Konami did so well with those anniversary collections what with including a fucked CV I rom that I can't really blame anyone for being skeptical about the potential quality of this thing. If it sucks it'll be cheaper in a few months and if it's good I doubt there'll be so much demand for it that it'll be hard to come by.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Himu on July 15, 2019, 07:44:10 PM
lets be honest. this lineup is infinitely superior to psx classic :gurl
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: demi on July 15, 2019, 07:59:10 PM
Pre Order is live
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Bebpo on July 15, 2019, 08:00:45 PM
lets be honest. this lineup is infinitely superior to psx classic :gurl

Yeah, but I didn't buy that one either lol

Just got the NES/SNES and getting GENESIS
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 15, 2019, 10:25:38 PM
I pre-ordered it. :trumps
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Momo on July 16, 2019, 01:36:25 AM
99 bux isnt a high regret purchase
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 16, 2019, 10:40:01 AM
I heard there's a new thing called a Raspberry Pi that plays TG-16 games and only costs like $40 I think, you guys should check it out.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: bork on July 16, 2019, 11:49:28 AM
I heard there's a new thing called a Raspberry Pi that plays TG-16 games and only costs like $40 I think, you guys should check it out.

Need a good PC-E Pi case, speaking of which.  :pimp
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: bork on August 08, 2019, 08:43:02 AM
More games announced.

    Dragon Spirit (1988)
    Galaga ’88 (1988)
    The Genji and the Heike Clans (1990)
    The Legend of Valkyrie (1990)
    Seirei Senshi Spriggan (1991)
    Splatterhouse (1990)
    Spriggan Mark 2 (1992)
    Tengai Makyou II: Manji Maru (1992)

https://gematsu.com/2019/08/turbografx-16-mini-pc-engine-coregrafx-mini-pc-engine-mini-final-lineup-announced

There's now a difference in the consoles- The PC-Engine Mini will have Tengai Makyou II: Manji Maru and Tokimeki Memorial, while the Core Grafx and Turbo-16 Minis will have Salamander.

Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 08, 2019, 08:53:43 AM
Splatterhouse :jeb
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Svejk on August 08, 2019, 08:54:55 AM
Still no Bloody Wolf or Keith Courage??  :what 
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Akala on August 08, 2019, 09:07:02 AM
Or Devil's Crush.   :maf

I want Tengai Makyou and Tokimeki.  :'(

Am ok with Salamander tho.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: tiesto on August 08, 2019, 10:09:40 AM
Wish we got a Manjimaru English translation. It's one of the only major RPG series to never have any official English releases (unless you count Kabuki Klash, the fighting game spinoff).
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Himu on August 08, 2019, 11:39:45 AM
This might be the best mini collection ever holy fuck
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: paprikastaude on August 08, 2019, 12:51:18 PM
Only if they add translations  :punch
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: tiesto on August 08, 2019, 01:59:06 PM
Also, M2 is behind this one too...
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: bork on August 08, 2019, 02:47:32 PM
This is the best thing Konami has done in years.  And it's barely a Konami thing.   :doge
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Bebpo on August 08, 2019, 02:58:25 PM
Also, M2 is behind this one too...

 :o
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Momo on August 09, 2019, 06:10:41 AM
yeah i want this, but I also dont really want to give Konami money, so idk :goldberg
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: porkbun on August 09, 2019, 07:30:50 AM
Or Devil's Crush.   :maf

I want Tengai Makyou and Tokimeki.  :'(

Am ok with Salamander tho.

Asuka has been posting clips of the PC Engine mini on her Twitter and Devil's Crash (Crush) is on there

https://twitter.com/WWEAsuka/status/1159749127569203200?s=09
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 09, 2019, 08:48:06 AM
It's got Alien Crush, but not Devil Crush.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2019, 08:52:01 AM
yeah i want this, but I also dont really want to give Konami money, so idk :goldberg

If you give Konami money they'll more than likely make more products like this. :wtf
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Svejk on August 09, 2019, 09:10:47 AM
But what else does Konami have that's worth a shit?  Mini pachinko?
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: porkbun on August 09, 2019, 09:20:38 AM
It's got Alien Crush, but not Devil Crush.

Hmm, maybe she hacked it already - or got some sort of special one?  She's had companies send her swag before as she's known as a big retro gaming geek.  Half of her tweets are her playing older games.

The tweet translates as "PC Engine mini fun" and the video is of Devil's Crash.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: paprikastaude on August 09, 2019, 09:26:22 AM
The whole Konami boycott doesn't even make sense unless you're one of those weird Kojima drones. Hardly anyone cared when they stopped making classic IPs many years before letting go of Kojima, but only the latter caused a widespread reaction.

At the end of the day, it's a company that found that their IP isn't profitable anymore for classic games - what can you say against that? It sucked, but they will only be proven wright if an actual decent product of theirs flops too :yeshrug And then we aren't going to get any closer to a real Silent Hill remastered trilogy.  :brain
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: bork on August 09, 2019, 09:29:46 AM
It's got Alien Crush, but not Devil Crush.

Hmm, maybe she hacked it already - or got some sort of special one?  She's had companies send her swag before as she's known as a big retro gaming geek.  Half of her tweets are her playing older games.

The tweet translates as "PC Engine mini fun" and the video is of Devil's Crash.

It says "PC Engine Archives" in the background- does the Mini say that?  If not, she's just messing around with emulation or an 'archives' release on another platform. 
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2019, 09:30:06 AM
But what else does Konami have that's worth a shit?  Mini pachinko?

beat em up classics, arcade classics, suikoden, silent hill, rocket knight adventures, goemon. Recently released Contra and Castlevania Collection.

I need a suikoden and goemon collection.

What a baffling question. Konami used to a GOAT developer. Fuck them for sucking Metal Gear and Kojima's dick as everything else went down in flames.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: bork on August 09, 2019, 09:32:34 AM
But what else does Konami have that's worth a shit?  Mini pachinko?

Tons of awesome IPs that we'll probably not get shit for again.  :'(  Hell, release that Bomber Girl arcade game on something, Konami- you put it out in arcades only?  WHY
:mindblown

If anything, I hope they continue to release collections of their older games- I already have the Parodius one on PSP, but hey- give me a modern platform re-release and thrown in Otomedius with it or something.

Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Svejk on August 09, 2019, 09:45:40 AM
But what else does Konami have that's worth a shit?  Mini pachinko?

beat em up classics, arcade classics, suikoden, silent hill, rocket knight adventures, goemon. Recently released Contra and Castlevania Collection.

I need a suikoden and goemon collection.

What a baffling question. Konami used to a GOAT developer. Fuck them for sucking Metal Gear and Kojima's dick as everything else went down in flames.
But what else does Konami have that's worth a shit?  Mini pachinko?

Tons of awesome IPs that we'll probably not get shit for again.  :'(  Hell, release that Bomber Girl arcade game on something, Konami- you put it out in arcades only?  WHY
:mindblown

If anything, I hope they continue to release collections of their older games- I already have the Parodius one on PSP, but hey- give me a modern platform re-release and thrown in Otomedius with it or something.
I thought we were talking about hardware.  :doge

Obviously, yeah... they have plenty games they can drop in collections.
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Nothing that can't be emulated.  :betty
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Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2019, 09:49:17 AM
Collections show interest in a product. Emulation isn't going to make a new Goemon, Suikoden, or RKA exist.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Svejk on August 09, 2019, 09:51:52 AM
Imo, the chances of Konami making a new Goemon or Suikoden are the same as Sega making Phantasy Star 5 or Panzer Dragoon Saga 2. 
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: porkbun on August 09, 2019, 10:15:37 AM
They did license TMNT for Arcade 1up cabinets.  But I don't know how much say they would have in that.

They've also been a part of the Arcade Archives series from pretty early on.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: bork on August 09, 2019, 10:39:33 AM
Put old game compilations and whatever aside.

What has Konami done besides release a soccer and (Japanese) baseball game or two and fuck up Metal Gear?  I don't trust them to do much of anything right besides re-release older stuff...which is only good because M2 has done it.  :doge
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2019, 01:41:06 PM
my opinion but konami beat em ups > capcom beat em ups
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: thisismyusername on August 09, 2019, 01:51:10 PM
it's a company that found that their IP isn't profitable anymore for classic games

Because they don't put effort into their shit. Look at the latest Contra: It looks HORRIBLE. If Konami isn't going to bother, they shouldn't throw money down a well on shit that clearly won't get their investment back, unlike Kojima who did (after a while, granted).
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2019, 02:03:14 PM
which capcom beat em ups are better? stuff like captain commando sucks. They've got AvP, Final Fight, the DND games and that's really it imo. Konami had TMNT and The Simpsons.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: bork on August 09, 2019, 02:12:21 PM
which capcom beat em ups are better? stuff like captain commando sucks. They've got AvP, Final Fight, the DND games and that's really it imo. Konami had TMNT and The Simpsons.

Most beat-em-ups from that era are pretty simple and it's not like Konami was the only one putting out so many cookie-cutter "move right and attack/jump+hit both buttons for special" games, but that's kind of all Konami put out.  Their games still look and sound great, but are so simple.  You got better variety and/or game play with AvP, the D&D games, The Punisher, Cadillacs & Dinosaurs, Battle Circuit, etc.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2019, 02:26:18 PM
which capcom beat em ups are better? stuff like captain commando sucks. They've got AvP, Final Fight, the DND games and that's really it imo. Konami had TMNT and The Simpsons.

Most beat-em-ups from that era are pretty simple and it's not like Konami was the only one putting out so many cookie-cutter "move right and attack/jump+hit both buttons for special" games, but that's kind of all Konami put out.  Their games still look and sound great, but are so simple.  You got better variety and/or game play with AvP, the D&D games, The Punisher, Cadillacs & Dinosaurs, Battle Circuit, etc.

I'll give you Cadillacs and Dinosaurs and Battle Circuit. I forgot about those. Retract my statement.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Svejk on August 09, 2019, 02:54:52 PM
My kids and I still play Chronicles of Mystaria (Tower of Doom combo).  To this day, I'm still learning new moves that I didn't even know existed.  Like the classic fireball motion does a special move.  Plus it has so many branching paths, it has mad replayability.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: bork on August 09, 2019, 03:14:55 PM
Noise Factory/SNK also knocked it way out of the park with Sengoku 3- it's from after the arcade golden age and has little enemy variety, but it plays so damn well.

Capcom kept the spirit of their beat-em-ups going with Sengoku Basara.  It's a shame that seems to be dead now.  :-\

And then if you want TEH AWESHUM!!!1 in a more recent game...go check out Fight 'N Rage on Steam ASAP- It's.  So.  Good.  SO.  GOOD.
:lawd
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Bebpo on August 09, 2019, 07:10:31 PM
This reminds me that I still need to play Tengai Makyou II and IV someday. I picked up the 3d remake of II on GC but never got too far and same with the 3d remake of I on X360. Just need to play the 2d originals at some point.

Might pick up one of these since M2 is confirmed. Would rather get the Japanese edition for Tengai, but don't want to spend that import $$$ so probably just get the US one.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: bork on August 10, 2019, 11:44:50 AM
Still want to get a PC-Engine style case- might see how much it is to get the Euro Supergrafx style.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Momo on August 12, 2019, 01:38:25 AM
The whole Konami boycott doesn't even make sense unless you're one of those weird Kojima drones. Hardly anyone cared when they stopped making classic IPs many years before letting go of Kojima, but only the latter caused a widespread reaction.

At the end of the day, it's a company that found that their IP isn't profitable anymore for classic games - what can you say against that? It sucked, but they will only be proven wright if an actual decent product of theirs flops too :yeshrug And then we aren't going to get any closer to a real Silent Hill remastered trilogy.  :brain
They only make Pro Evo and re-released classics, they're literally boycotting themselves from me ever buying stuff from them.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Svejk on August 12, 2019, 08:29:18 AM
When they stated 'traditional' games just aren't worth the effort, they literally fist fucked themselves.  Where do they get off?
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Rufus on August 12, 2019, 09:55:44 AM
They have other legs to stand on. Seem to be doing OK with that, too.

https://www.konami.com/ir/en/financialinfo/sales.html
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Momo on August 12, 2019, 10:16:17 AM
Which is why I dont want to give them money, none of that shit is going into further games.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Occam on August 12, 2019, 11:05:54 AM
Konami became uninteresting right around the time they changed the logo: The day the kukeiha logo died is the day Konami died.
I haven't purchased any new Konami releases in many years. I have pretty much all of their old games I ever wanted in my collection, and there is no point in giving them them money for ports of old software as it won't lead to new games of the same kind being made.
Note that I'm not specifically boycotting them, they simply aren't making anything I want anymore.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Svejk on August 12, 2019, 11:19:49 AM
And the Switch Contra looks like a bag of mashed up assholes.  Give me Shattered Soldier 2 you fucks.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Momo on August 12, 2019, 11:26:01 AM
Konami became uninteresting right around the time they changed the logo: The day the kukeiha logo died is the day Konami died.
I haven't purchased any new Konami releases in many years. I have pretty much all of their old games I ever wanted in my collection, and there is there is no point in giving them them money for ports of old software as it won't lead to new games of the same kind being made.
Note that I'm not specifically boycotting them, they simply aren't making anything I want anymore.
this right here was the pinnacle, when your highest high is this, it's all disappointment after
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGtl_yoCRoA
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Tasty on August 12, 2019, 11:30:21 AM
Konami has also Yu-Gi-Oh!, and while they are currently in the process of mismanaging that franchise into the ground, it's such a juggernaut that it'll probably take a few years.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Momo on August 12, 2019, 11:33:52 AM
I dont follow yu-gi-oh, but are they doing anything new with it or just 'content updates as new games' like the other stuff
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Himu on August 12, 2019, 12:05:08 PM
When they stated 'traditional' games just aren't worth the effort, they literally fist fucked themselves.  Where do they get off?

?

Konami owns gyms and shit. Konami is doing very well for themselves.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Tasty on August 12, 2019, 12:23:04 PM
I dont follow yu-gi-oh, but are they doing anything new with it or just 'content updates as new games' like the other stuff

Hmm, they released Duel Links like two years ago and now it's their one of their biggest moneymakers. :lol

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Highlighting the biggest successes in digital entertainment, Konami praised the ongoing success of the now two-year-old mobile title Yu-Gi-Oh Duel Links, which has surpassed 90 million downloads.

For the TCG itself, they keep revamping it with each new anime, to mixed results. In fact Duel Links' early popularity was mostly because it stuck to the original ruleset (no Synchro/Link/Pendulum/etc. etc.) :lol

But they're adding those back to Duel Links now, and while the Duel Links crowd has always been prone to complaining, there might actually be something real there now.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: bork on August 12, 2019, 12:36:41 PM
They have other legs to stand on. Seem to be doing OK with that, too.

https://www.konami.com/ir/en/financialinfo/sales.html

So everything is down, but "digital entertainment" went way up for them.  Hard to tell if that's mobile shit or anything digital since games have a separate listing. :thinking
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Tasty on August 12, 2019, 12:41:37 PM
They have other legs to stand on. Seem to be doing OK with that, too.

https://www.konami.com/ir/en/financialinfo/sales.html

So everything is down, but "digital entertainment" went way up for them.  Hard to tell if that's mobile shit or anything digital since games have a separate listing. :thinking

PES Mobile and Duel Links, lol.

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Highlighting the biggest successes in digital entertainment, Konami praised the ongoing success of the now two-year-old mobile title Yu-Gi-Oh Duel Links, which has surpassed 90 million downloads. The mobile version of Pro Evolution Soccer also grew its revenue thanks to fresh TV marketing.

In terms of console and PC games, PES continues to be the big hit with the game's online mode myClub performing particularly well, thanks in part to a promotion with the mobile version.
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: porkbun on August 12, 2019, 12:49:51 PM
They also make money on pachinko, slots, and other gaming machines.  When I was in Vegas last year, pretty much every casino has one of their huge horse racing machines.

https://www.konami.com/gaming/Games/Featured/FortuneCup.aspx
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Rufus on August 12, 2019, 12:50:04 PM
Has to be mobile. Can't imagine their back catalog and PES or whatever else they have is pulling in that much.

https://www.konami.com/corporate/en/subsidiaries/

Digital Entertainment
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Planning, production, and distribution of mobile games, computer & video games, cards, music, video contents, goods
Note that the they also count cards (hurr) as digital entertainment.

Gaming & Systems Business (gaming, i.e. gambling)
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Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: demi on February 17, 2020, 12:08:37 PM
So... this comes out next month.

Here's a vid of the UI. It's like the evolution of the SNES Classic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6OsfZzd5-8
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 17, 2020, 01:43:18 PM
Switching between TG-16 and PC-Engine from the main menu :gladbron
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: bork on March 06, 2020, 09:10:37 AM
This has now been delayed due to the corona virus.  No new release date yet. 
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 06, 2020, 09:11:50 AM
:stahp
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Akala on March 06, 2020, 10:02:05 AM
 :stahp
Title: Re: Konami is making a PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Bebpo on March 06, 2020, 11:18:50 AM
This has now been delayed due to the corona virus.  No new release date yet.

Really not expecting the new consoles to come out this year unless something changes.
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Trent Dole on March 06, 2020, 04:04:42 PM
Yeah I was just reading something about that too, this gen must continue!
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: EchoRin on March 06, 2020, 05:02:02 PM
Ah. I was wondering when this thread got bumped if this thing even came out already and fell like a dud. Given how the system did in North America the first time around.
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 06, 2020, 06:44:45 PM
This has now been delayed due to the corona virus.  No new release date yet.

Really not expecting the new consoles to come out this year unless something changes.

Microsoft could have avoided this if they'd continued to make Xboxes in Mexico. :trumps
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: bork on March 19, 2020, 06:23:57 AM
Just got a shipping notification from Amazon.jp.
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 19, 2020, 09:13:05 AM
No changes on American Amazon, though. :(
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: porkbun on March 19, 2020, 09:28:10 AM
Basically the only things Amazon is shipping right now are "essentials"

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/amazon-restocking-only-essential-products-133819137.html
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: bork on March 19, 2020, 12:05:50 PM
Basically the only things Amazon is shipping right now are "essentials"

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/amazon-restocking-only-essential-products-133819137.html

I saw that, and yet- they delivered a video game to me before 8:00 AM this morning.  The FFVII Remake pre-order that changed to "unknown" changed back to April, too.
:idont
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: bork on March 19, 2020, 01:07:59 PM
No changes on American Amazon, though. :(

Get a PCE Mini- same thing, about the same price, smaller form factor, and Amazon.jp sent it to me with free overnight shipping- it's coming tomorrow and I'm not even an Amazon Japan Prime member.
:lawd
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: bork on March 23, 2020, 08:34:29 PM
Don't have much to say about the PCE Mini and I mean that in a good way- if you've used an NES Classic Mini, SNES Classic Mini, or Genesis Mini, you know what to expect here, right down to the interface style.  Very solid emulation and the box is nice n' tiny.  Comes with a pretty long controller and USB/HDMI cable, too.

There's an icon on the lower-right of the menu to select console type.  You get a cool animation transition and different menu/music types for the PCE and TG16, plus the different game line-ups.
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Bebpo on March 23, 2020, 09:08:56 PM
No changes on American Amazon, though. :(

Get a PCE Mini- same thing, about the same price, smaller form factor, and Amazon.jp sent it to me with free overnight shipping- it's coming tomorrow and I'm not even an Amazon Japan Prime member.
:lawd

Decided to pick one up. Trying to cut down on spending right now but idk, need something fun in my life to offset all the negative I guess.
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: bork on March 23, 2020, 09:20:22 PM
I feel you.  I'm definitely cutting down my vidya shopping list from here on out.  I think FFVII Remake is the first to go.
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Himu on March 23, 2020, 09:53:58 PM
My Amazon pre order has said December 2020 since last week.
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: porkbun on March 24, 2020, 08:50:41 AM
Don't have much to say about the PCE Mini and I mean that in a good way- if you've used an NES Classic Mini, SNES Classic Mini, or Genesis Mini, you know what to expect here, right down to the interface style.  Very solid emulation and the box is nice n' tiny.  Comes with a pretty long controller and USB/HDMI cable, too.

There's an icon on the lower-right of the menu to select console type.  You get a cool animation transition and different menu/music types for the PCE and TG16, plus the different game line-ups.

Can you change the language of the menus to English?  I'm tempted to get one even though I have many different ways of playing the games already.  I was one of the few nerds that actually had a TG16 back in the day and there are some great games in the lineup.
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: bork on March 24, 2020, 09:02:58 AM
Don't have much to say about the PCE Mini and I mean that in a good way- if you've used an NES Classic Mini, SNES Classic Mini, or Genesis Mini, you know what to expect here, right down to the interface style.  Very solid emulation and the box is nice n' tiny.  Comes with a pretty long controller and USB/HDMI cable, too.

There's an icon on the lower-right of the menu to select console type.  You get a cool animation transition and different menu/music types for the PCE and TG16, plus the different game line-ups.

Can you change the language of the menus to English?  I'm tempted to get one even though I have many different ways of playing the games already.  I was one of the few nerds that actually had a TG16 back in the day and there are some great games in the lineup.

Yes, you can use it in full English.

AFAIK the difference is that the PC-Engine Mini has Tengai Makyou II: Manji Maru and Tokimeki Memorial, while the Core Grafx and Turbo-16 Minis will have Salamander- and none of that will matter once it gets inevitably hacked.
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Bebpo on March 28, 2020, 10:24:54 PM
Got mine, messing around with it, the biggest thing that stands out is the sound. The music is fucking GOOD. Like I played TG-16 as a kid, never played PC Engine or any JP only stuff. But I guess it's cause these were on CD-Rom, the sound quality of the music is just insanely good and sounds pretty modern.

Messing around with the games, seems like a lot of good shmups here. I've known Cho Aniki as a series being muscle men version of Paradious but  this is my first time playing Cho Aniki and THE MUSIC IS SO GOOD WHY DID NO ONE TELL ME?!?

Also Dracula X still holds up outside the 3-5 mins of unskippable cutscenes at the start.
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Bebpo on March 28, 2020, 10:57:39 PM
Yeah, the music on this box is amazing. Great quality and tons of great chiptune tracks in the various games. Pretty awesome sounding collection.
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: porkbun on March 30, 2020, 08:07:57 AM
The base TG16 had some awesome soundtracks.  Dungeon Explorer, Alien Crush, Devil Crush, Bloody Wolf are some of my favorites.

The CD games are even better for the most part.  Lords and Gates of Thunder are among the best of all time.

And yeah, the system is great for shumps.
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: bork on March 30, 2020, 08:21:47 AM
TG-16 audio stomped all over the competition at the time, easily.  And then the CD games were just beautiful- first played Dracula X in 1997 or 1998 and it was still amazing despite being dated.
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Akala on March 30, 2020, 09:32:06 AM
I went and ordered the PC engine, now is the time. I didn't realize the only difference is salamander.

playing tokimeki again  :jgames
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Himu on March 30, 2020, 09:43:57 AM
I'm confused.

This is out? I thought it was delayed.
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Akala on March 30, 2020, 09:55:54 AM
everyone is impatient and grabbed JP version instead.
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: tiesto on March 30, 2020, 10:36:01 AM
Yesterday, Ken Shimura (of Kato-chan and Ken-chan fame, which the English localization called "JJ and Jeff") passed away from coronavirus  :'(

This machine has JJ and Jeff on it so play that in his honor.
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Akala on April 04, 2020, 04:45:35 PM
this thing is fucking amazing, no lie happiest gaming in forever. I feel like I missed out on almost all of this, what was I even doing in 1991.
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: bork on April 21, 2020, 02:24:30 PM
https://twitter.com/videogamedeals/status/1252573923591499777
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: demi on May 14, 2020, 07:12:45 PM
Amazon updated my delivery date to NEXT WEEK

All you virgins had to do was be patient, but noooo you had to be a traitor to America and order overseas

It's still up for order

https://amzn.to/2WQ3f0g
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Positive Touch on May 14, 2020, 07:22:03 PM
a hundred fucking dollars? don't they know there's a war on
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: demi on May 14, 2020, 08:13:08 PM
That's ok, Trump gave us all twelve hundred dollars to spend on mini consoles instead
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 14, 2020, 09:31:04 PM
TG-16 Mini is showing a release date of May 22 on Amazon.
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Akala on May 14, 2020, 10:40:50 PM
I can't get over how much uselessly bigger it is than the PCE.  :lol

It is the best of the mini bunch IMO.
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Beezy on May 14, 2020, 10:57:51 PM
I was surprised to get this notification on my preorder. Looking forward to it more than the other mini consoles since I never played the original.
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: bork on May 20, 2020, 10:48:51 AM
8bitdo wireless pads are out.
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Himu on May 20, 2020, 11:45:56 AM
Amazon updated my delivery date to NEXT WEEK

All you virgins had to do was be patient, but noooo you had to be a traitor to America and order overseas

It's still up for order

https://amzn.to/2WQ3f0g

I don't have money for that in this pandemic. Order cancelled and it breaks my fucking heart.
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 20, 2020, 12:45:15 PM
Amazon updated my delivery date to NEXT WEEK

All you virgins had to do was be patient, but noooo you had to be a traitor to America and order overseas

It's still up for order

https://amzn.to/2WQ3f0g

I don't have money for that in this pandemic. Order cancelled and it breaks my fucking heart.

You can probably pick one up cheap in a few months.
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Himu on May 20, 2020, 12:51:20 PM
This thing  was announced way too early. I had it pre ordered for nearly a year I think.
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 27, 2020, 08:42:11 AM
Got mine from Amazon yesterday and it's really great. :rejoice
Title: Re: PC Engine/Turbografx Mini
Post by: archnemesis on May 27, 2020, 09:08:56 AM
Bah, still no release date in Europe. I don't even know if it will be sold in Sweden or if I have to import it from Amazon UK.