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Title: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2019, 05:25:54 PM
this thread turned into a heavy metal thread, man.

Here's a doc that lists fascist/racist black metal bands.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ERHBY2aDVQ2_1nhPl_zi1oF4ogZK5PCiDk7hKxBK65Q/htmlview?fbclid=IwAR0GUrqsd6kHRLZraCbSPrkWUjPOEkCg4SUjIqzvmCV0zHf_5ndKp5KqtPY
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: team filler on June 16, 2019, 06:07:46 PM
she's a zioslut and even worse she got old and gross  :yuck
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on June 16, 2019, 06:39:28 PM
The Beatles
The Rolling Stones
Bruce Springsteen
Led Zeppelin
The Weeknd
Drake
You can pretty much dump all mumble rap in here too. They’re all so indistinguishable and interchangeable that it doesn’t matter which one I’m talking about

Also I think most of Madonna’s success was due to talented producers like Nile Rodgers. She’s been riding the wave of inertia ever since because teenage white girls loved her music in the 80s and will buy whatever she makes and attend her concerts. It’s why she can drop garbage albums but make hundreds of millions of dollars on tours.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 16, 2019, 07:32:45 PM
Most 80's music
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 16, 2019, 07:34:52 PM
deftones and nine inch nails is two bands, that i absolutely just don't understand, that people i share music taste with usually love as well
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2019, 07:36:06 PM
What NIN have you listened to?
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Trent Dole on June 16, 2019, 08:08:27 PM
deftones and nine inch nails is two bands, that i absolutely just don't understand, that people i share music taste with usually love as well
Ha it's cool, I love TR but literally no project involving Maynard of TOOL et al infamy clicks for me. There's the occasional song, and people whose work I respect and others whose opinions I respect are into it, but it just doesn't happen for me.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2019, 08:34:52 PM
https://www.gaystarnews.com/article/madonna-is-overrated-accept-it/

Quote
I once went on a Grindr hook up, and when I arrived, the guy was watching a live concert DVD of Madonna’s.

I couldn’t help myself.

‘Why are you watching this?’ I asked. ‘She’s rubbish’.

‘You don’t like Madonna?’ he replied. ‘Get out.’

He literally kicked me out.

:lol

Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Snoopycat_ on June 16, 2019, 09:11:33 PM

U2. A band so sickening they caused an entire nation to go on hunger strike. Cunts.

Pearl Jam. A band for people who thought U2 weren't pretentious enough. Cunts.

Tool. A band for people who thought Pink Floyd and U2 weren't pretentious enough. Cunts.









Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: agrajag on June 16, 2019, 09:38:43 PM
Frank Zappa
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: BisMarckie on June 16, 2019, 09:44:26 PM
Everyone who uses autotune

And Queen.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: naff on June 16, 2019, 09:46:14 PM
Foo Fighters and Pearl Jam
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: tiesto on June 16, 2019, 10:07:00 PM
For Madonna, I loved Ray of Light thanks to the William Orbit production. It was interesting seeing Madonna of all people jump on the progressive house bandwagon, getting remixed by Sasha.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChRs2RJELRQ

But for stuff I don't get... mumble rap has gotta be a definite. Or for EDM, how Marshmello got to be so huge, guy just seemed like the dollar store version of Deadmau5, except he doesn't even have the knowledge of dance music Deadmau5 has.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2019, 10:17:35 PM
Everyone who uses autotune



even daft punk?
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 16, 2019, 10:31:57 PM
Not a big fan of Serge Gainsbourg
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: TEEEPO on June 16, 2019, 10:37:29 PM
it took me about twenty years to finally understand the love for deftones, specifically white pony, which funnily enough happened earlier this morning.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Potato on June 16, 2019, 11:52:31 PM
I don't get this mumble rap shit.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Akala on June 16, 2019, 11:59:22 PM
Old wipipo itt. Mumble gets tossed around a bit, I have heard it labeling Migos over to like Wiz :lol

Also Lil Uzi is legit great, XO tour lif3 one of the best tunes of the twenty teens.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Akala on June 17, 2019, 12:01:13 AM
On topic can usually get why most stuff is popular even if garbo.  :doge
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Kara on June 17, 2019, 12:06:05 AM
i'm old, the thread
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Potato on June 17, 2019, 12:10:50 AM
Old wipipo itt. Mumble gets tossed around a bit, I have heard it labeling Migos over to like Wiz :lol

Also Lil Uzi is legit great, XO tour lif3 one of the best tunes of the twenty teens.

I mean, all rap is pretty terrible, except a few of the old school groups from the 80s, but this modern sad boy mumble shit is beyond garbage.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: TEEEPO on June 17, 2019, 12:30:38 AM
the standout joji tracks give me all sorts of feels
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Trent Dole on June 17, 2019, 01:25:52 AM
Old wipipo itt. Mumble gets tossed around a bit, I have heard it labeling Migos over to like Wiz :lol

Also Lil Uzi is legit great, XO tour lif3 one of the best tunes of the twenty teens.

I mean, all rap is pretty terrible, except a few of the old school groups from the 80s, but this modern sad boy mumble shit is beyond garbage.
What you're not psyched on a high percentage of popular material in the genre being bad xeroxes of 'ye's 808s lp? :yeshrug
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Transhuman on June 17, 2019, 01:49:14 AM
Man y'all are so negative. I can't even think of any musicians I don't get, because if I don't get them, I erase them from memory
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 17, 2019, 01:58:24 AM
Oof some of the stuff I read here.

Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 17, 2019, 01:40:37 PM
Leonard Cohen


Although, I'm not sure you would classify him as "popular", more of a critics darling.


Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: TEEEPO on June 17, 2019, 02:21:56 PM
it took me about twenty years to finally understand the love for deftones, specifically white pony, which funnily enough happened earlier this morning.

What ended up doing it for you?

I didn't hate them, but didn't much like them for years until my old band wanted to do covers of Bored and My Own Summer, at which point I became a big fan.

i think i associated the alt-metal genre with cathartic teenage angst in my formative years and deftones really didn't do it for me then despite the shoegaze and post-hardcore influences. looking back, i'm not sure if i ever ended up giving them a fair chance but change and pink maggit back to back sealed the deal for me
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: agrajag on June 17, 2019, 02:25:33 PM
diamond eyes is my favorite deftones song.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 17, 2019, 03:39:59 PM
What NIN have you listened to?

growing up with a parent that liked nin, pretty much fucking all of it. not so much deftones though, just seen them live at festival twice, and found it very boring.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 17, 2019, 03:41:00 PM
Deftones, Mastodon, Opeth, Tool and Foo Fighter for rock based music. Especially Foo Fighters, which just sounds like the most boring rock possible.

Rap wise probably Pusha T and the Clipse. Daytona was a banger due to production alone but Pusha is as average as average gets flow wise, has a boring ass voice, and his lyrics are kinda shit. Dude's wordplay is full of dad joke energy.

Foo fighters for sure for me as well. It's like they set out to make the most generic boring ass rock music they could, even shit like nickelback stands out more, as at least that's cheesy as fuck all the way through. foo fighters is just forgetable all around.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: BisMarckie on June 17, 2019, 03:54:46 PM
i'm old, the thread

I‘m too young and hip to get dad rock like Queen. :pitbull
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Momo on June 17, 2019, 04:47:22 PM
What NIN have you listened to?

growing up with a parent that liked nin, pretty much fucking all of it. not so much deftones though, just seen them live at festival twice, and found it very boring.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItosTQ4PVlI
 :rimshot :ohyeah
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 17, 2019, 04:59:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQJb9VeSPao

 :rimshot :ohyeah
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: agrajag on June 17, 2019, 05:04:52 PM
that ain't it chief, this is it

https://youtu.be/Zj--eRqqgyc
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: naff on June 17, 2019, 07:31:28 PM
Deftones, Mastodon, Opeth, Tool and Foo Fighter for rock based music. Especially Foo Fighters, which just sounds like the most boring rock possible.

nothing makes me cringe quite like people who earnestly love the foo fighters. i look down on a lot of guys at work for no other reason than they like them :lol

also, RHCP, but i can understand why people like them. drave grohl though :yuck :piss2
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: tiesto on June 17, 2019, 07:33:19 PM
Deftones, Mastodon, Opeth, Tool and Foo Fighter for rock based music. Especially Foo Fighters, which just sounds like the most boring rock possible.

Rap wise probably Pusha T and the Clipse. Daytona was a banger due to production alone but Pusha is as average as average gets flow wise, has a boring ass voice, and his lyrics are kinda shit. Dude's wordplay is full of dad joke energy.

Foo fighters for sure for me as well. It's like they set out to make the most generic boring ass rock music they could, even shit like nickelback stands out more, as at least that's cheesy as fuck all the way through. foo fighters is just forgetable all around.

I know this is like the music of choice of gen Xers who never got into indie rock in the mid 2000's, but for the life of me I couldn't pick a Foo Fighters song out of a crowd of generic rock songs. I know I must've heard them a million times but it goes in one ear and out the other.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2019, 08:16:23 PM
Foo Fighters is still better than Nirvana. :idont
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: agrajag on June 17, 2019, 08:33:35 PM
Foo Fighters is still better than Nirvana. :idont

only their first two albums which are good, the rest is poo
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Trent Dole on June 17, 2019, 09:14:01 PM
Foo Fighters is still better than Nirvana. :idont
Do you like Wings more than the Beatles too :doge
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: TVC15 on June 17, 2019, 09:20:43 PM
Not a big fan of Serge Gainsbourg

You were so close to perfect, Joe.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: naff on June 18, 2019, 12:25:20 AM
Foo Fighters is still better than Nirvana. :idont

 :trumps

nirvana had their time in the sun, i have some small amount of nostalgia for nevermind; being left with my friend and the trashy babysitter when their parents had ragers with that blaring from the garage. nirvana fans seem pretty rare these days. just another band posers wear tees of because of the iconic graphic design. saw maison margiela released a tee that is just the modern lovers logo without the band name underneath for $250 earlier in the year  :lol

unlike the modern lovers, and many other rock groups i dont think nirvana or the foo fighters have aged well at all.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2019, 12:47:53 AM
90's rock in general hasn't aged well besides stuff like Smashing Pumpkins tbh. It was on the cusp of 00 flabby rock.

I do like Foo Fighters more than Nirvana musically.

Everlong is better than 90% of Nirvana songs.

That said I get the criticism towards Foo Fighters.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: TEEEPO on June 18, 2019, 01:16:31 AM
in utero is one of the goats fu all
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Mandark on June 18, 2019, 05:54:37 AM
Nevermind was the Super Mario 64 of rock music.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Potato on June 18, 2019, 08:11:25 AM
Leonard Cohen


Although, I'm not sure you would classify him as "popular", more of a critics darling.



Nah man, Leonard Cohen is fucking great. Sit in a dark room on a winter night with a glass of whisky and something like "You want it darker" playing and you'll get him for sure.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: VomKriege on June 18, 2019, 08:32:08 AM
I'm not a big fan by any means but Madonna gets props for the longetivity alone. There was ups and downs but the string from Ray of Life to Confessions on a Dance Floor (up to 2005) was top tier as far as being a pop star goes. The music itself is maybe the least important part in that comparison to MJ it's more to do with her success, business acumen, her work discipline, a talent to pick surrounding talent, a strong flair for visual presentation and a couple of other things.

Otherwise I'm a bit like Transhuman, I don't really pay attention to stuff I don't care for... Oasis I guess ? Then again I don't care much for the Beatles either.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: VomKriege on June 18, 2019, 08:42:40 AM
Oh yeah and Johnny Hallyday and Michel Sardou for the provincial mention that no one will get in this globalised age.

Sardou is amazing because the dude shat out a never ending stream of so-bad-its-good dreck with a heavy tinge of old fashioned French jingoism (bemoaning in no particular order Arab Oil Checks, Anti-Americanism, Criticism of Colonialism, the Concorde Crash, the Soviets, etc...) with the videos to boot but he still surfs on the success of Don't ever call me again France (about the cruise boat, the one good song in that reactionary trend he made) and tried and true wedding party banger Les lacs du Connemara.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: tiesto on June 18, 2019, 11:50:21 AM
For grunge, I've always preferred AiC and Soundgarden over Nirvana, Pearl Jam, and STP. Probably because I came from a metal background in that year and preferred the harder sounds of them compared to their contemporaries.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: VomKriege on June 18, 2019, 11:54:57 AM
I mean look at that beauty (the video is actually more :mindblown than the song) :

https://youtu.be/mQpPBOcoe1Y

Or this one :

https://youtu.be/jEuo4_mH8vE
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 18, 2019, 11:56:33 AM
I don't think you have to choose. Nirvana Unplugged and FF's Colour and the Shape are undeniably great albums. Top 5 of the decade.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: agrajag on June 18, 2019, 12:17:01 PM
I came from a metal background

wow what happened to u

 :goty2
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: VomKriege on June 18, 2019, 12:21:05 PM
I came from a metal background

wow what happened to u

 :goty2

All hail Cybotron !
:vr
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: agrajag on June 19, 2019, 03:58:48 PM
 :whatisthis
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: agrajag on June 19, 2019, 05:17:10 PM
eh, honestly I've been so depressed about the current state of Metal, I mostly listen to backlog stuff. Thankfully it's such an abundant genre that there are still bands from the late 90's and early 2000's that I can still discover. I have so been revisiting some artists I used to rock back in the day, but stopped for whatever reason and catching up on their newer stuff I haven't heard. Theory In Practice and Pestilence are two examples.

 I went through a big Finnish melo-death phase in the past year, I saw Wolfheart (they opened for Swallow the Sun) a couple of months ago in an embarrassingly tiny venue. They were great.

Lately I've been super into Coroner, a band I've always been aware of but have not given a chance until latrly once my tastes matured to their current state. Really great thrash riffing, reminiscent of RIP era Dave Mustaine, and fantastic lead playing which is rare for old school thrash bands.

This Krypts band is pretty good stuff!
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Mandark on June 19, 2019, 05:28:00 PM
https://twitter.com/maggieserota/status/1135374852033060866
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: tiesto on June 19, 2019, 05:40:04 PM
I came from a metal background

wow what happened to u

 :goty2

The scourge of Hatsune Miku.

Heh. I got into dance music in the mid 90s, if anything is to blame it's probably Streets of Rage, the school bus driver playing an upstart local dance station (now it's just generic pop), amiga mod music, a friend whose brother lived in London who used to introduce him, and by extension, me, to all that stuff, and another friend who was really into it and made me mix tapes.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Propagandhim on June 19, 2019, 05:50:21 PM
Queen and Radiohead are my top 2

I can appreciate that Freddy Mercury is a master class singer, but Queen songs are the most obnoxious shit on the planet.   
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: shosta on June 19, 2019, 05:52:20 PM
it looks like the whole point of this thread is to try to make other people mad, like what propagandhim's post just did to me
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Propagandhim on June 19, 2019, 05:53:52 PM
Okay, I'm exaggerating on the Radiohead stuff.  Kid A has some great tunes.

I'd rather be waterboarded than listen to Queen, though.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2019, 06:01:14 PM
Queen and Radiohead are my top 2

I can appreciate that Freddy Mercury is a master class singer, but Queen songs are the most obnoxious shit on the planet.   

Die.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2019, 06:04:32 PM
eh, honestly I've been so depressed about the current state of Metal, I mostly listen to backlog stuff. Thankfully it's such an abundant genre that there are still bands from the late 90's and early 2000's that I can still discover. I have so been revisiting some artists I used to rock back in the day, but stopped for whatever reason and catching up on their newer stuff I haven't heard. Theory In Practice and Pestilence are two examples.

 I went through a big Finnish melo-death phase in the past year, I saw Wolfheart (they opened for Swallow the Sun) a couple of months ago in an embarrassingly tiny venue. They were great.

Lately I've been super into Coroner, a band I've always been aware of but have not given a chance until latrly once my tastes matured to their current state. Really great thrash riffing, reminiscent of RIP era Dave Mustaine, and fantastic lead playing which is rare for old school thrash bands.

This Krypts band is pretty good stuff!

I asked Danti this a while back. I don’t know where to start with metal. I find electronic less intimidating. Probably because I grew into that genre.
 
I know the Metallica’s, the Megadeth’s, the Black Sabbath’s and that’s about it.

I’ve been wanting to get into the genre but I don’t know where to start.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Propagandhim on June 19, 2019, 06:13:42 PM
Queen and Radiohead are my top 2

I can appreciate that Freddy Mercury is a master class singer, but Queen songs are the most obnoxious shit on the planet.   

Die.

We had an analogous thread regarding popular films and I got reamed out for thinking Mel Brooks movies aren't funny.  Go watch Space Balls again and tell me if it doesn't sound like an Open Mic in Borough Park with a giant dad muttering off from his dollar store jokebook. TRASH.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2019, 06:15:49 PM
Blazing Saddles is an American classic
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Propagandhim on June 19, 2019, 06:17:01 PM
Blazing Saddles is an American classic

That's the only one I haven't seen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXHkFZ-nG4Y

GENIUS
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2019, 06:23:13 PM
Watch Blazing Saddles. It’s an incredible satire on race relations in America.

Most comedy movies aren’t funny. The ones that are? Truly rare.

I prefer 1930’s comedies to most famous modern comedy like Caddyshack.

Tv comedy also has a better track record. I don’t know what it is about comedy and movies. Harder to pull off.

Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Propagandhim on June 19, 2019, 06:24:16 PM
That's a good point, but movies like Space Balls and The Producers (And Robin Hood to a lesser extent) are so schlocky and dense with "ya get it?" nudges that it completely ruins the entertainment beyond the comedy aspect.  I will check out Blazing Saddles and report in.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: nudemacusers on June 19, 2019, 06:54:19 PM
Imagine dragons. Awful.
deftones and nine inch nails is two bands, that i absolutely just don't understand, that people i share music taste with usually love as well
Deftones is the linkin park of the 90s.

Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: agrajag on June 19, 2019, 07:23:59 PM
eh, honestly I've been so depressed about the current state of Metal, I mostly listen to backlog stuff. Thankfully it's such an abundant genre that there are still bands from the late 90's and early 2000's that I can still discover. I have so been revisiting some artists I used to rock back in the day, but stopped for whatever reason and catching up on their newer stuff I haven't heard. Theory In Practice and Pestilence are two examples.

 I went through a big Finnish melo-death phase in the past year, I saw Wolfheart (they opened for Swallow the Sun) a couple of months ago in an embarrassingly tiny venue. They were great.

Lately I've been super into Coroner, a band I've always been aware of but have not given a chance until latrly once my tastes matured to their current state. Really great thrash riffing, reminiscent of RIP era Dave Mustaine, and fantastic lead playing which is rare for old school thrash bands.

This Krypts band is pretty good stuff!

I'm mostly the same but juggle genres. I probably listen to three or four new albums a year of whatever genre (I've heard good shit I've only heard once, but I'm not 19 anymore where I could listen to new and old shit all the time and keep discovering shit).

As far as older bands I've gotten into it's been Morbid Angel about a year ago as I found it to be pretty good for working out, and outside of that delving into the deeper discographies of bands I already like as my High On Fire example shows. I'll look into Coroner as I admit I've never listened to them, RIP era Dave Mustaine makes me want to listen to them now.

As for the state of Metal I'm not sure if hate or love it tbh. As there's clearly less of it visible compared to even just 7 years ago but there's some insanely good shit if you dig real deep. The problem is not that different from what it appeared like to me in 2005ish with the noted exception of less visibility. Too many mediocre bands choosing to be iterative while not having their own identity to make it worth a listen, too many fans sticking to their one niche which makes getting recommendations an annoying process of elimination, and no clear through line past a certain point with just how much is out there now. But I get it as digging is not something I'm all that inclined to do often so in spite of always being in the mood for great new metal, going through several mediocre to bad work to get to it isn't something I'm willing to do too often. But when shit hits it fucking hits. I found a decent channel on youtube for synth and fucking dirty punk if you're into either, if I find a good source for recentish metal I'll be sure to send it your way.

Its probably an old man yells at cloud thing, but nothing appeals to me about modern metal. When I had Sirius radio I used to listen to the metal station just to see what the kids are listening to these days, and it just depressed me as fuck. Everything sounds the same, from the production, to everyone using 8 string guitars. The whole djent craze from a few years ago really took the wind out of my sails, and this is coming from a guy who used to rock Meshuggah since the Chaosphere days. I checked out this bad Code Orange or Orange Theory or whatever, that people were hailing as the saviors of metal... and it was just garbage. No melody, no catchy riffs, annoying vocals. Deathcore sucks. Now there's bands that sound like nu metal fused with deathcore.  :yuck

The only new metal coming out that I like is by old bands that I was already a fan of, and even those are getting old and going downhill. In Flames, which used to be my favorite band at one point is the metal version of The Simpsons to me now: they have more bad albums than good. Arch Enemy, another old favorite is just generic and boring. The last Soilwork album was very good.

As far as getting into Coroner, check out this track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXwPsR0eX4I

admittedly, not their most Megadeth-y stuff, but the riffing in this one is god tier.

Back when I was really plugged into the scene, I would get tons of recommendations from word of mouth. Nowadays, I just use streaming platforms and their suggestions usually come pretty handy. Thanks to Pandora I discovered my favorite Finnish band Omnium Gatherum, and a host of other great bands from Finland. 

Morbid Angel, I only find some of their stuff listenable. Domination I used to play a lot back in the day. I have never been into the brutal brutal stuff, but I have always been around it. Used to go to shows live all the time. I've seen Cannibal Corpse, Cryptopsy, Origin, Aborted, Kataklysm multiple times, Nile, etc. when it comes to American style death metal.

eh, honestly I've been so depressed about the current state of Metal, I mostly listen to backlog stuff. Thankfully it's such an abundant genre that there are still bands from the late 90's and early 2000's that I can still discover. I have so been revisiting some artists I used to rock back in the day, but stopped for whatever reason and catching up on their newer stuff I haven't heard. Theory In Practice and Pestilence are two examples.

 I went through a big Finnish melo-death phase in the past year, I saw Wolfheart (they opened for Swallow the Sun) a couple of months ago in an embarrassingly tiny venue. They were great.

Lately I've been super into Coroner, a band I've always been aware of but have not given a chance until latrly once my tastes matured to their current state. Really great thrash riffing, reminiscent of RIP era Dave Mustaine, and fantastic lead playing which is rare for old school thrash bands.

This Krypts band is pretty good stuff!

I asked Danti this a while back. I don’t know where to start with metal. I find electronic less intimidating. Probably because I grew into that genre.
 
I know the Metallica’s, the Megadeth’s, the Black Sabbath’s and that’s about it.

I’ve been wanting to get into the genre but I don’t know where to start.

It really depends on what you like. It's such a vast genre that fans of one subgenre won't even fuck with another subgenre, like won't even touch it with a ten foot pole.

Do you like Megadeth and Metallica? Then you might want to check out some other bands that are from the same era and similar style. Slayer, Anthrax, Exodus, SOD, Suicidal Tendecies, Testament, Sepultura, Pantera etc. Another thing to keep in mind, which era Metallica and Megadeth have you heard? Both bands have made their sound very radio-friendly at one point, although both are back to making more or less thrash metal nowadays.

If you like that kind of stuff but looking to get into something a little heavier, more modern, more intense, try The Haunted, At the Gates, The Crown, Darkane, Dead Shape Figure, Children of Bodom, Nevermore. Usually these moder modern thrashy bands incorporate similar guitar playing and song structures but with more intense drumming and vocals.

Into Black Sabbath? I guess check out High on Fire, Baroness. I am really not into stoner metal/rock, it's not my cup of tea and I am not gonna pretend I know a lot about it.

Doom metal is another genre that spawned from Black Sabbath, but often times they have harsh, growling vocals. Candlemass, November's Doom, My Dying Bride, Katatonia, Paradise Lost, Moonspell, Swallow The Sun are some good ones. Type O Negative can be considered a doom/goth crossover, but with a lot more mainstream appeal.

If you like more melodic stuff, or less aggressive stuff, I would recommend checking out the classics. Iron Maiden, Saxon, Savatage, Riot, Helloween. If you up the intensity dial, that will take you into Power Metal.

For a metal neophyte, I am purposely ignoring the satanic-y and really extreme forms of metal (grindcore, black metal, brutal death metal, etc. etc.). Check those out if you so desire. There really are so many subgenres to metal and so much variety I could spend all day talking about it. Feel free to shoot me a DM any time, I a sure I could give some recommendations tailored to any taste.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Thirty-Ought-Six on June 19, 2019, 07:30:36 PM
Twelve Chairs is my favorite Mel Brooks movie, and one of my favorite movies of any genre.

(https://i.imgur.com/Ef99DMt.gif)

Also, young Frank Langella is ridiculously beautiful.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: agrajag on June 19, 2019, 07:31:17 PM
Oh, and if you mix a little bit of thrash, death metal, and classic heavy metal (think Iron Maiden), you get my favorite genre, Melodic Death metal. Some classic albums to check out: Slaughter of the Soul by At The Gates, Jester Race, Whoracle, Colony, and Clayman by In Flames, Chainheart Machine, A Predator's Portrait and Natural Born Chaos by Soilwork, Follow the Reaper by Children of Bodom, Haven and Damage Done by Dark Tranquility. At least those are some of my favorites.

Then there's a whole bunch of other genres to unpack. Power Metal like I previously mentioned, then there is Prog Metal, djent, folk metal, symphonic metal.

Nu metal I don't think I even need to mention, as anyone with even a cursory interest in rock music from the late 90's/early aughts has probably heard a ton.

Then there are genres that kind of sit in a weird space between metal and punk. Hardcore, grindcore and their derivatives. Some of the bands I mentioned may fit that bill. Morbid Angel, which Wrath mentioned started out as a grindcore band and ended up being one of the pioneers of death metal.

Hope that helps Cindi  :-[
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: agrajag on June 19, 2019, 07:47:04 PM
Coroner knocks. Thanks for that Agra.

And lol dude imagine being me. I have no understanding whatsoever as to why Opeth, Mastodon and Meshuggah are revered in the slightest. But they're undoubtedly beloved bands with seminal work at this point with a far reaching influence. A lot of metal will come from a space I don't particularly care for whether I like it or not. I still find excellent work here and there, sometimes influenced by the very bands I dislike. but it was rough having those guys as the big bands as that isolated me in an already insular enclave that is metal.

I do, however, always go out of my way to check out the big bands as I believe I should be well versed in metal, even though I look less like a metal head and more like some arab dude in a polo shirt the older i get. Pallbearer were the big ones for the minute and I definitely didn't get into that not for lack of effort in seeing when it would click. That said, I come across bands I enjoy on varied spectrum of metal every so often. Funny that you bring up code orange or whatever the fuck, as they've been recommended to me and i keep forgetting to delete them from my ipod :lol

hey, I don't get Mastodon either and believe me I put in effort trying to give them a chance. And I don't love love Meshuggah either, they are hit or miss forme and I usually digest them in small quantities. Opeth I recognize is not for everyone, you either love it or hate it.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2019, 08:00:28 PM
Thanks guys!

I am familiar with things like Slayer and Anthrax. Emphasis familiar.

I do like melodic metal as seen in for instance, Metallica’s Fade to Black which heavily featured an acoustic. Also, I prefer Megadeth to Metallica. As much as I like Metallica (even Black Album), I’m not big on their thrash drums or thrash drums in general. Somehow I enjoy Megadeth more.

Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: agrajag on June 19, 2019, 08:02:07 PM
you should give Katatonia's recent output a try. Triptykon is a pretty cool doom band. None of this stuff is from beyond 2016 probably though.  :duh

Cindi, saying this is hard for me, as a diehard Metallica fanboy in my formative years. But Dave Mustaine is a much better, craftier songwriter than the Metallica boys, and the musicianship level of Megadeth is miles above. So I could see how you prefer them to Metallica, a lot of their songs are brilliantly written.

I am going to throw a noodle on the wall and see if it sticks. Check out Evergray. Their albums The Dark Discovery; Solitude, Dominance, Tragedy, In Search of Truth, Recreation Day, and The Inner Circle. They are melodic and accessible enough, but with a good dose of heaviness and no fast tempos. Some prog elements as well, but not too wanky. See if you like it.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2019, 08:03:22 PM
I’m considering hitting up Wikipedia and just reading the entry on heavy metal and listening to the music in sequence. Whenever I got into genres a long time ago I liked learning the history and all the paths and breaks and forks and learning about how they started. Helps you appreciate a genre and how it grew more. I did that with electronic and it’s partly why I prefer disco and house, because those were the original pioneering genres.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2019, 08:04:03 PM
Megadeth are more punk than Metallica, and slightly jazzy in ways (IIRC Chris Poland was originally a Jazz guitarist so there's some influence there in the early albums). And from what I know of your tastes not surprised that it worked for you.

Cindi, I recommend this band called Cutie earlier in the trhead. they aren't metal, they're punk, I'm sure you'll take a liking to them.

I do love punk.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 19, 2019, 08:04:14 PM
when this thread turns into the first step along cindi’s journey towards her nsbm phase :leon
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: agrajag on June 19, 2019, 08:07:42 PM
Cindi, check out the documentary Metal: A Headbanger's Journey. It's corny and nerdy, but it will take you on a good exploration of the genre. There was also a TV show based on it, but I forget the name. There's also this funny youtube guy who does videos on different metal genres, I'll link it when I can.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: agrajag on June 19, 2019, 08:11:24 PM
Megadeth are more punk than Metallica, and slightly jazzy in ways (IIRC Chris Poland was originally a Jazz guitarist so there's some influence there in the early albums). And from what I know of your tastes not surprised that it worked for you.

Cindi, I recommended this band called Cutie earlier in the thread. they aren't metal, they're punk, I'm sure you'll take a liking to them.

Calling Poland a jazz guitarist is generous, he is a fusion player indeed though. Sorry, music snob. Dave kicked him out of the band for being a heroin addict I think. Imagine, being so fucked up that Dave Mustaine, of all people, kicks you out of the band for drug use. I vastly prefer Marty Friedman's lead playing.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2019, 08:13:38 PM
What are samples of progressive metal?
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2019, 08:14:16 PM
when this thread turns into the first step along cindi’s journey towards her nsbm phase :leon

:lol fuck you
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Kara on June 19, 2019, 08:14:18 PM
Twelve Chairs is my favorite Mel Brooks movie, and one of my favorite movies of any genre.

(https://i.imgur.com/Ef99DMt.gif)

Despite being a massive Ilf and Petrov stan I've never actually seen this. :shaq2
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: agrajag on June 19, 2019, 08:16:12 PM
yeah lol just going off info I heard like a thousand years ago.

But yeah Friedman was much better, too bad he was taken in by a worse addiction than heroin: weeaboism.

Marty actually started playing metal again, his last album is pretty heavy.

I remember reading an article on blabbermouth.net years ago where Marty said he had to quit Megadeth because his "guru told him that metal had bad energy" and spit out my soda.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: agrajag on June 19, 2019, 08:17:01 PM
What are samples of progressive metal?

this is such a long topic and I gotta run. Maybe Wrath can tackle this one.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: agrajag on June 19, 2019, 08:17:47 PM
Twelve Chairs is my favorite Mel Brooks movie, and one of my favorite movies of any genre.

(https://i.imgur.com/Ef99DMt.gif)

Despite being a massive Ilf and Petrov stan I've never actually seen this. :shaq2

The Soviet Twelve Chairs is the only one you need to see. Not the Mironov one, the other one.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2019, 08:22:30 PM
tbh just post a song of progressive metal. I wonder if it's like progressive rock.

I just wanna rock but apparently metal isn't rock so I'm not going in with the same expectations.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Kara on June 19, 2019, 08:26:46 PM
Twelve Chairs is my favorite Mel Brooks movie, and one of my favorite movies of any genre.

(https://i.imgur.com/Ef99DMt.gif)

Despite being a massive Ilf and Petrov stan I've never actually seen this. :shaq2

The Soviet Twelve Chairs is the only one you need to see. Not the Mironov one, the other one.

Thanks, not in a rush cuz Kisa kind of sucks as a character.

Which of the Golden Calf adaptations is the good one?
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: agrajag on June 19, 2019, 08:47:50 PM
tbh just post a song of progressive metal. I wonder if it's like progressive rock.

I just wanna rock but apparently metal isn't rock so I'm not going in with the same expectations.


https://youtu.be/N9zFICL-Lng

here it even has a David Coverdale knockoff
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2019, 08:48:29 PM
Tried to get into metal since Brutal Legend.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: agrajag on June 19, 2019, 08:49:24 PM
Twelve Chairs is my favorite Mel Brooks movie, and one of my favorite movies of any genre.

(https://i.imgur.com/Ef99DMt.gif)

Despite being a massive Ilf and Petrov stan I've never actually seen this. :shaq2

The Soviet Twelve Chairs is the only one you need to see. Not the Mironov one, the other one.

Thanks, not in a rush cuz Kisa kind of sucks as a character.

Which of the Golden Calf adaptations is the good one?

idk I don't think they made a sequel to the good Twelve Chairs one
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2019, 08:50:21 PM
tbh just post a song of progressive metal. I wonder if it's like progressive rock.

I just wanna rock but apparently metal isn't rock so I'm not going in with the same expectations.


https://youtu.be/N9zFICL-Lng

here it even has a David Coverdale knockoff

I like!

Megadeth are more punk than Metallica, and slightly jazzy in ways (IIRC Chris Poland was originally a Jazz guitarist so there's some influence there in the early albums). And from what I know of your tastes not surprised that it worked for you.

Cindi, I recommend this band called Cutie earlier in the trhead. they aren't metal, they're punk, I'm sure you'll take a liking to them.

I do love punk.

Maybe check out some crossover like Suicidal Tendencies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAdD5BmUn7U

EDIT: Unknowingly posted a weak remake so here's the better original instead.

I also like!

Really like the drums in the Ark song. Also the guitar work. Metalheads are such guitar aficionados and must be great at finger banging.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2019, 09:01:13 PM
I didn't know Led zep was considered a metal pioneer. I just never considered them metal. I felt Jimi's stuff had more metal pangs to it than Zep. I'm honestly surprised because when I think of Led Zep I think blues and folk rock. Psychodelic rock feels far more of a metal influence. In fact, a lot of metal heads I know hate shit like Led Zep. I'm so fucking confused.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: agrajag on June 19, 2019, 11:46:53 PM
Hey Cindi. Yes, Ark is great and I picked that song because it is a great example of good prog metal. There is a lot of bad prog too. They really have it all. Great riffs, great musicianship (most of the band that recorded thia album was the touring band for Yngwie Malmsteen that quit on him because he is an asshole), great singing, and it's musically eclectic. The guitar player is more known for this work on Conception, which is another great prog/heavy metal band.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2019, 12:14:55 AM
Started Heavy Metal: A Headbanger's Journey.

First words.

"Heavy metal rules. That punk shit sucks. It doesn't belong in this world! It belongs on fucking Mars, man!"

:maf
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: agrajag on June 20, 2019, 12:18:02 AM
Started Heavy Metal: A Headbanger's Journey.

First words.

"Heavy metal rules. That punk shit sucks. It doesn't belong in this world! It belongs on fucking Mars, man!"

:maf

that guy is a cringey nerd, but he does know his metal shit
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2019, 12:18:49 AM
Started Heavy Metal: A Headbanger's Journey.

First words.

"Heavy metal rules. That punk shit sucks. It doesn't belong in this world! It belongs on fucking Mars, man!"

:maf

that guy is a cringey nerd, but he does know his metal shit

Who is he?
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2019, 12:21:14 AM
Oh, I wasn't talking about the narrator. There's an interview with some kid in on the news or something in line for a concert.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: agrajag on June 20, 2019, 12:23:23 AM
Started Heavy Metal: A Headbanger's Journey.

First words.

"Heavy metal rules. That punk shit sucks. It doesn't belong in this world! It belongs on fucking Mars, man!"

:maf

that guy is a cringey nerd, but he does know his metal shit

Who is he?

not sure, I think he wrote his doctorate dissertation on metal  :dead

he runs a youtube network called Banger. Like I said, he also produced a VH1 tv show based on the documentary, a little more fleshed out as each episode focused on a different subgenre.

His demeanor is very typical of some metal nerds I have encountered.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: agrajag on June 20, 2019, 12:24:01 AM
Oh my bad, I haven't seen it in a while. Probably some random kid.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Trent Dole on June 20, 2019, 12:26:34 AM
'heavy metal rules'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4DvW8sTAWI
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: TEEEPO on June 20, 2019, 12:35:35 AM
'heavy metal rules'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4DvW8sTAWI

well, that was quite the trip down memorylane

luke vibert can kiss my indie-punk brownboy-ass
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: agrajag on June 20, 2019, 02:01:28 AM
Cindi, here is another prog metal song that "rocks." Some guitar player as the Ark song you liked.


https://youtu.be/FQy7S_vzdcU

now this is from their most "mainstream" album, but I'm trying to ease you into it. 8)
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2019, 02:29:02 AM
A big thing that always has been a wall for me with metal is black and death metal.

I hate the demonic growl shit and watching that doc didn't change that for me.

:brazilcry

Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2019, 02:38:35 AM
Like I loved stuff like Judas Priest, Black Sabbath, Metallica, Megadeth, Twisted Sister;etc just fine but then there’s this satanist undercurrent that legitimately scared/scares me that it just turns me off of exploring the genre. I feel then same way after that doc. Hate black and death metal! :brazilcry
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: agrajag on June 20, 2019, 02:44:44 AM
Heh both death growls and the demonic stuff is very much an acquired taste. And if you're just getting into metal in the middle of your adult hood, it's even harder to get used to. The majority of the satanic stuff is theatrics. Slayer, for example, always used the Satanic angle, but their vocalist Tom Araya is a church-going Catholic. Some of those Norwegian black metal bands though are legit crazy. As a rule of thumb, I would say there is a much higher chance of black metal bands believing in their crazy nonsense, and death metal bands just using it for shock value.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2019, 02:45:44 AM
I like Slayer from my exposure of them thanks to Vice City. But they’re not the hardcore Satan crap I’m talking about. Or are they? :brazilcry
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: agrajag on June 20, 2019, 02:46:01 AM
There is also a ton of death metal that has nothing to do with satanism at all, and even black metal. There are Christian black metal bands!
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: agrajag on June 20, 2019, 02:47:05 AM
I like Slayer. But they’re not the hardcore Satan crap I’m talking about.

Sure, they were only the precursor that inspired a lot of that stuff.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2019, 02:48:29 AM
There is also a ton of death metal that has nothing to do with satanism at all, and even black metal. There are Christian black metal bands!

Thank God

*does sign of the cross*
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 20, 2019, 02:51:55 AM
you get used to treating harsh vocals like they’re just another instrument
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: agrajag on June 20, 2019, 02:51:57 AM
maybe check out some melodic death metal? I mean, the vocals will still be a deal breaker for you, but literally none of the bands I listen to base their lyrical content on the satanist shit
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: agrajag on June 20, 2019, 02:52:58 AM
Oh Cindi metal subgenres are such a fucking rabbit hole. There even is such a thing as shoegaze black metal.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2019, 02:57:31 AM
Oh Cindi metal subgenres are such a fucking rabbit hole. There even is such a thing as shoegaze black metal.

Lmao WHAT

Metal dudes out here like MBV?! :lol
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: agrajag on June 20, 2019, 02:59:51 AM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackgaze
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2019, 03:00:33 AM
No fucking way :dead
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2019, 03:03:37 AM
This is dope

https://youtu.be/ylTY9WbMGDc

:ohhh
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2019, 03:05:40 AM
I might have to get into metal after all. It’s got the guitar riffs that I crave that re all too seldom in today’s music and modern rock rarely satisfies when it comes to instrumentation.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: agrajag on June 20, 2019, 03:31:10 AM
I got into dance music in the mid 90s

Thoughts on Goa Trance?
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2019, 03:50:35 AM
Finding heavy metal easier to get into than I thought it’d be partly because a lot of acts I consider hard rock are apparently metal. So it’s been easier to categorize and familiarize myself with metal’s overall “story”. I’m more familiar with it than I previously thought. I thought it’d take a week of music listening to get to the branching paths but I’m familiar with all of the main key players that I’m able to immediately rush into British Metal New Wave which I’m sort of familiar with in gulps. Looks like the real metal ride starts tomorrow while working and listening to jams.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: benjipwns on June 20, 2019, 04:10:07 AM
responding to comedy films digression
That's the only one I haven't seen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXHkFZ-nG4Y

GENIUS
Spaceballs is fucking awful, yes. But Young Frankenstein and Blazing Saddles are masterpieces.

I will say I generally don't find most comedies to be funny, but I do find them entertaining so still worth a watch. I never really thought Ghostbusters, Animal House and Caddyshack were all that funny save a few jokes but I still ended up really liking to loving said movies because they were entertaining regardless. It's the same with horror movies, I don't find any or most particularly scary but I enjoy the vibe and atmosphere they go for.

Basically, I'm a robot.
That's a good point, but movies like Space Balls and The Producers (And Robin Hood to a lesser extent) are so schlocky and dense with "ya get it?" nudges that it completely ruins the entertainment beyond the comedy aspect.  I will check out Blazing Saddles and report in.
Comedy ages differently more than anything else. Go back and watch Duck Soup, there's entire scenes where the gag is "Harpo monologues something goofy" or "Harpo goes one way, something happens, he turns around and sends a brother to danger instead." Blazing Saddles, Airplane, etc. were targeting their moments, like almost all comedy.

Look at something like Seinfeld, if you strip away the characters, which is what made it timeless, all the rest of the comedy falls pretty flat just a few decades later. (Look at all the GAF threads that happened regularly with "I don't get Seinfeld" or the tired pointing out how cell phones make the plots fall apart)

It can be very very very hard to go back and watch these because you simply can't suspend disbelief for them. You can suspend disbelief for a thriller, or a horror movie or a sci-fi movie and get over the special effects. You can do it for a film noir and get past the hacky dialogue. You can "get" the analogies of something like Star Trek and appreciate it for what it meant. Comedy operates on different levels.

Some Like It Hot was for a long time considered the greatest comedic film of all time. It's based around a single gag. That you've probably seen a hundred times already everywhere else. You've probably even seen better versions of it.

It's like being a kid and somebody tells you a simple joke and it's hilarious. Then thirty years later nobody could tell you that joke for the first time and you find it hilarious. You've heard and seen too much comedy alone inbetween.

Robin Hood: Men in Tights is a good example. It has a shitload of jokes that are referencing things of the time it was made. When Robin says "I speak with an English accent" it's a shot at Kevin Costner in Prince of Thieves who refused to even attempt one. When they decide to "fox" them, it not only plays the 20th Century Fox score, but it's a reference to a fax, which only people in government know what that is today.

The best jokes that last from Mel Brooks' period of parody films are ones that aren't specific to the film. To use SpaceBalls, there's where they "comb" the desert. With literal combs. In SpaceBalls they rewatch the film to figure out the plot, in Men in Tights they pull out the scripts from under their seats, same gag with the fourth wall. Blazing Saddles' "the sheriff's near" is a bit more specific to the film but could be extracted into another film like those other jokes.

Plus when you're dealing with many comedy films that were popular in their time, Animal House and Ghostbusters especially are two, they've been referenced a hundred times directly. ROBOOOTTTTT HOUSE! in Futurama for example.

The funny thing about Airplane! is that it survives while the films that inspired it didn't, to where Airplane's disaster premise stands within itself it doesn't need the connection to the films that were popular. Their next film Top Secret! almost achieves the same thing. Both are arguably more successful than Brooks' films of the same era in terms of not leaning so hard into what they're parodying. You can enjoy the complete absurdity of Val Kilmer's musical superstar (and the hilarious skeet surfing obsessed songs) without getting it being a reference to Elvis' WWII movies.
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Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: shosta on June 20, 2019, 04:21:17 AM
Seth Rogen's Neighbors, by comparison, is timeless, and will probably be recognized in 100 years as the greatest comedy ever made. I've seen it five times and made my last girlfriend watch it three of those times.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: benjipwns on June 20, 2019, 04:31:15 AM
you know what else is timeless in relation to comedy films, liking a post with an Annie Hall clip and then unliking it as part of some kind of vengeance against me
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: shosta on June 20, 2019, 04:38:12 AM
Annie Hall is another movie which will assuredly never stop being funny, ever, and frankly I think your whole post is just wrong.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: benjipwns on June 20, 2019, 04:40:59 AM
i think your whole FACE is wrong pal
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: shosta on June 20, 2019, 04:43:29 AM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/n3Sglf7FQ53bi/giphy.gif)

Thanks for reminding me of this other timeless comedy.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 20, 2019, 06:08:25 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZvI1mXY3QQ

I love Death. Having a song about fucking euthanasia.

Prolong the pain
How long will it last?
Suicide machine
A request to die with dignity
Is that too much to ask?
Suicide machine
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: headwalk on June 20, 2019, 07:50:58 AM
This is dope

https://youtu.be/ylTY9WbMGDc

:ohhh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMTAkIDRHiA
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: headwalk on June 20, 2019, 07:54:28 AM
as a punk/hardcore kid, metal is probably a good 60% of what i listen to nowadays. love it all from funeral doom to ridiculous theatrical metal tacory. stuff that somehow merges the energy of punk with the composition/technical ability of extreme metal is nectar.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2019, 10:30:20 AM
This is dope

https://youtu.be/ylTY9WbMGDc

:ohhh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMTAkIDRHiA

Don't like this as much. It's more thrash and not big on thrash drums. It's still solid but it doesn't tick all the boxes of the song I posted which manages to combine the positive feeling of rock with lament of metal.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: agrajag on June 20, 2019, 10:32:54 AM
"thrash drums"
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2019, 10:49:57 AM
don't like that kind of energy
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: agrajag on June 20, 2019, 10:52:40 AM
The drumming in the song headwalk posted is a type of blast beat, which is very particular to death, black metal, grindcore and deathcore, but not at all used in thrash metal.

 :snob
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2019, 10:54:55 AM
Oh okay.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: agrajag on June 20, 2019, 11:01:12 AM
the common quintessential thrash beat is the skank beat, which is common in punk, which you like, and ska. Which makes sense because thrash is basically the love child between punk and NWOBHM. The basic blast beat, which you hate, is basically a skank beat at 2x the tempo. Although there are many variations of both. Al

Blast beats didn't become common until basically Pete Sandoval of Morbid Angel started using them frequently, there are examples of very few thrash bands (Dark Angel comes to mind) and even Black Sabbath and some jazz drummers using them decades earlier.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2019, 11:08:03 AM
I like it within a specific context, but if it's on and on I just don't care much.

I guess this is what I mean by thrash drums.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zda57cLwo9U

And yes, punk has this. But I don't fuck with that kind of punk.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: agrajag on June 20, 2019, 11:11:26 AM
the one that starts at 0:35 in is a skank beat. It can get repetitive, I agree, but it is the hallmark of the thrash genre. I mean, most genres of metal are going to have a fast tempo, and I get a feeling that if you sped up any kind of beat you may find it annoying.
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: nudemacusers on June 20, 2019, 11:42:50 AM
'heavy metal rules'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4DvW8sTAWI
Haven’t spun this in ages; good album, prob his best.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2019, 03:21:12 PM
Apple Music editors notes on the albums as I listen during the workday are an excellent example as to why it's my preferred service.

(https://i.imgur.com/SCYC02B.png)

I've listened to Master of Reality a few times but this time the Ed. notes really helped me understand within the context of history and its influence.

Meanwhile, Spotify offers no such context. Apple Music helps contextualize music within the confines of its period, what it influences, its influences, all tied to a neat paragraph blurb. Apple Music is the service for those who like finding music. It unfortunately doesn't do this for every album, though.

Before, I listened to Sabbath's Master of Reality, I thought it was good. But after listening to them grow sequentially you can hear them get heavier and heavier as the genre just continues to evolve. It's fascinating. By Master of Reality almost all of the blues influences of rock has been washed away. Like, before it felt like just a much heavier rock. But then in Master of Reality they pull out all the stops especially in Embryo. It's just full on heavy metal.

Love it.

What genre is Black Sabbath considered? Traditional metal?

- Black Sabbath down
- Judas Priest next and I'll start Iron Maiden (who I know nothing about) after that
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2019, 03:26:36 PM
Reading up on Black Sabbath's influence only helps me appreciate them more.

https://www.houstonpress.com/music/every-metal-subgenre-began-as-a-black-sabbath-song-6510141

Good place to start it seems.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: agrajag on June 20, 2019, 03:39:26 PM
I consider BS proto-metal. They have been called everything under the sun, from hard rock to heavy metal to doom metal. Their Dio era is the best imo.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2019, 04:01:35 PM
Might be embarrassing to admit but my introduction to metal was Vice City's V-Rock. lol

I know Judas Priest as the You've Got Another Thing Comin guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4javSsseS8

:rock

I have GTA, MTV, VH1, and TLR to thank for helping me develop a wide eclectic taste in music tbh. But especially GTA. I'm confident I would have never given rock a shot without V-rock.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: agrajag on June 20, 2019, 04:04:27 PM
Painkiller has some juicy riffs and solos.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2019, 04:18:14 PM
Judas Priest has the coolest album covers.

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81LehBsU6jL._SS500_.jpg)

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/716OPeVwbLL._SS500_PIPJStripe-Robin-Large-V2,TopLeft,0,0_.jpg)

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/913nj9dYgbL._SS500_.jpg)

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71TCuDANC+L._SS500_PIPJStripe-Robin-Large-V2,TopLeft,0,0_.jpg)





Painkiller has some juicy riffs and solos.

You really know what I like Agra. You know my best spots :heartbeat :uguu
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: agrajag on June 20, 2019, 04:25:04 PM
I try bb
Title: Re: Popular musicians that just don’t get
Post by: tiesto on June 20, 2019, 04:57:53 PM
I got into dance music in the mid 90s

Thoughts on Goa Trance?

I like a bit of goa and psytrance, and even made a psy mix for a genre competition at a DJ board I go to (where you're randomly assigned different genres). Deep/tech/prog/disco house is my favorite though.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: agrajag on June 20, 2019, 05:03:22 PM
electronic music genres are as confusing to me as metal genres are to most people.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Rufus on June 20, 2019, 05:34:50 PM
http://everynoise.com/engenremap.html
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2019, 06:09:04 PM
electronic music genres are as confusing to me as metal genres are to most people.

I can help with that easy.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: agrajag on June 20, 2019, 06:32:05 PM
post some tracks with a lot of pew pew sounds
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2019, 06:40:39 PM
Pew pew sounds?

So I took a walk and decided to listen to Judas Priest’s third album. Holy fuck. Sinner just fucks your ears and cums in them out the gate. Got that white shit dripping from your nose like snot, dude.

https://youtu.be/FrdEuEWBIFQ
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: agrajag on June 20, 2019, 06:41:58 PM
Rob Halford would enjoy that vivid description, I think.
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Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 20, 2019, 06:44:34 PM
gud and cool metal


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DbURGU5J_o


https://twitter.com/lobstergirl666/status/1124779737631592449

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q5qvft2i-s


 :american


(on a site note, blue shirt guitarist plays for sucidal tendencies atm)
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2019, 07:11:53 PM
So with electronic here are samples of genres.

Trance - what people think of when others mention electronic. Think unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce shit. Not my hype.

https://youtu.be/8tIgN7eICn4

Techno - you know the original Mortal Kombat movie theme? With the electronic intro? That’s techno. I like it in gulps. If you know that intro you know it generally has more melody and scales than trance.

https://youtu.be/9EcjWd-O4jI

House - the progenitor electronic genre. Inspired by disco, has a big disco and funk influence. Can be dope vocal or without vocals. My preferred electronic genre and imo the most diverse. Because it came from disco and funk it has a big emphasis on soulful singing, beat drops, breaks, and pauses. House is a religion. Daft Punk, is house. French house specifically which is its own subgenre.

Notice the 4/4 beat.

https://youtu.be/8ATA_zyhsWA
https://youtu.be/Vnoz5uBEWOA
https://youtu.be/INbgG9M0WYE

Downtempo- wanna get down and chill?

https://youtu.be/U4U19zwFENs

Ambient - providing ambience, letting your mind fill the gaps, and taking your imagination for a ride. Very often a relax genre and has much collaboration and mixing with downtempo, chillwave;etc Often melodic.

https://youtu.be/A2zKARkpDW4
https://youtu.be/0Z4cLmbw6q0

Take Skin of the Night. It’s ambient but it also flirts with rock. Ambient is such a diverse genre where people do what the fuck ever and have genres mix and kiss and have foreplay so long as it’s ambient and atmospheric.

https://youtu.be/fIY64norZqY
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: headwalk on June 20, 2019, 08:39:32 PM
mate you really don't want to go into metal subgenre clasification wars. makes final fantasy ranking look like a respectable pursuit.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: agrajag on June 20, 2019, 08:45:26 PM
The techno I have heard people call "real techno" is super repetitive and devoid of melody. I like some trance. I love Goa Trance, I got into it because I love Juno Reactor.

There is also an instrumental rock band I love called Ozric Tentacles who have a lot of songs that are similar to Goa Trance, but played with live instruments. I think you'd like em Cindi.

https://youtu.be/p5iF5lj_It0
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2019, 08:54:53 PM
Yeah depends on the techno. I’m not big on it. That Asian techno makes me want to die
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2019, 11:21:40 PM
Never heard Dio before today. Tonight on a walk I listened to Holy Diver (the song). As if an epiphany, the shadows of the trees shook during its pulsing ambient intro as the stars turned their backside to me. Pitch black. The wind gasped a nasally sigh; my hair blew. Then the guitars started. I had goosebumps.

I've listened to a bit of metal but it had never had an impact on me like that before.

I now want to fuck Dio.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: agrajag on June 20, 2019, 11:27:21 PM
Never heard Dio before today. Tonight on a walk I listened to Holy Diver (the song). As if an epiphany, the shadows of the trees shook during its pulsing ambient intro as the stars turned their backside to me. Pitch black. The wind gasped a nasally sigh; my hair blew. Then the guitars started. I had goosebumps.

I've listened to a bit of metal but it had never had an impact on me like that before.

I now want to fuck Dio.

Now listen to Rainbow in the Dark. Like right now. And then Heaven and Hell.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: agrajag on June 20, 2019, 11:28:28 PM
Agra just check out some synthwave. Lots of longtime metalheads have gotten into it (including myself). It uses similar imagery of satanism and demonry just with a neon tint. Check out Perturbator, Carpenter Brut and Megadrive.

I think I checked synthwave out before, but it didn't stick with me. I'll plug your recommendations into Spotify and see where that takes me.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2019, 11:35:32 PM
I never knew it was possible for metal to make me feel that way. I need to experience more.

(https://i.imgur.com/UKWYFj9.gif)
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: agrajag on June 21, 2019, 12:00:08 AM
listen to every Savatage album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TboNW5AiHA8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VOzdcCy1Vg
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Himu on June 21, 2019, 12:04:41 AM
listen to every Savatage album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TboNW5AiHA8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VOzdcCy1Vg

what subgenre is this and dio? I love this kind of metal.

It's also why I love Fade to Black. It's the mix of sock (piano) and hard (metal) that just does it for me.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: agrajag on June 21, 2019, 12:07:24 AM
heavy metal
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Himu on June 21, 2019, 12:08:38 AM
Traditional heavy metal?

When buying metal albums what's the best medium? CD or vinyl?
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: agrajag on June 21, 2019, 12:11:53 AM
well, if you're an audiophile that likes everything on vinyl, it's no different than any other genre of music. I used to buy CD's, but last few years I've gone full digital. I miss buying CD's though, and booklets, and the new CD smell.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Himu on June 21, 2019, 12:14:09 AM
What kind of metalhead are you, agra? the outsider type? the type that always wears band shirts and black? or the normie in hiding with tattoos hiding under his fancy suit kind? Do you have long hair?
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: agrajag on June 21, 2019, 12:22:55 AM
Normie since I'm in my thirties, but never got any tattoos. Used to wear band shirts and have long hair. Now I shave my head clean due to baldness. Still have all my band shirts, but I only wear them around the house. I find the "metal as a lifestyle" guys and gals pretty cringe, but whatever makes them happy.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Himu on June 21, 2019, 02:17:52 AM
Never heard Dio before today. Tonight on a walk I listened to Holy Diver (the song). As if an epiphany, the shadows of the trees shook during its pulsing ambient intro as the stars turned their backside to me. Pitch black. The wind gasped a nasally sigh; my hair blew. Then the guitars started. I had goosebumps.

I've listened to a bit of metal but it had never had an impact on me like that before.

I now want to fuck Dio.

Now listen to Rainbow in the Dark. Like right now. And then Heaven and Hell.

So um.

I listened to these songs and I think I've fallen head over heels for metal now. I mean, I liked it before. But now...I'm not sure there's going back. :tocry Heaven and Hell is incredible. And that fucking album art with the smoking angels. Iconic.

How could any Catholic hate metal imagery?

(https://i.imgur.com/ayfKelU.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/C0JAWn7.jpg?1)

(https://i.imgur.com/cNqM7UH.jpg?1)
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: agrajag on June 21, 2019, 02:57:46 AM
Never heard Dio before today. Tonight on a walk I listened to Holy Diver (the song). As if an epiphany, the shadows of the trees shook during its pulsing ambient intro as the stars turned their backside to me. Pitch black. The wind gasped a nasally sigh; my hair blew. Then the guitars started. I had goosebumps.

I've listened to a bit of metal but it had never had an impact on me like that before.

I now want to fuck Dio.

Now listen to Rainbow in the Dark. Like right now. And then Heaven and Hell.

So um.

I listened to these songs and I think I've fallen head over heels for metal now. I mean, I liked it before. But now...I'm not sure there's going back. :tocry

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/490/511/148.jpg)

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Heaven and Hell is incredible. And that fucking album art with the smoking angels. Iconic.

How could any Catholic hate metal imagery?

(https://i.imgur.com/ayfKelU.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/C0JAWn7.jpg?1)

(https://i.imgur.com/cNqM7UH.jpg?1)

Ronnie James Dio was a great man, and had some interesting things to say about organised religion (he wasn't a fan).

To shift gears a little bit. Here is something completely different. Modern, polished, very sad doom/prog/ metal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2pBZhTXRtg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21LWQkZqPhI
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Post by: agrajag on June 21, 2019, 02:59:44 AM
Just as a general recommendation, this dude dropped like eight albums throughout the past year and it's all bangers. Here's his newest work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip0rOXlwut4

It's kinda electronic I guess, not sure how i'd classify it but it's dope.

It sounds like music from 80's sci-fi movies, I dig.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Himu on June 21, 2019, 09:35:31 AM
Listened to Holy Diver lp last night while reading. Then the song 4 times in a row on a repeat this morning.
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Post by: agrajag on June 21, 2019, 09:41:23 AM
Listened to Holy Diver lp last night while reading. Then the song 4 times in a row on a repeat this morning.
now watch the Killswitch Engage cover music video for shits and giggles
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: headwalk on June 21, 2019, 09:47:54 AM
i love viv cambell's rawness on the first two dio records, enjoyed this bloke's take on it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoPp0NF9sSg
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: agrajag on June 21, 2019, 09:50:52 AM
Yeah metalcore is really not my bag.

headwalk: Vivian Campbell is very underrated.
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Post by: Himu on June 21, 2019, 10:00:36 AM
i love viv cambell's rawness on the first two dio records, enjoyed this bloke's take on it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoPp0NF9sSg

Yes the guitar playing is godlike.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Brehvolution on June 21, 2019, 10:21:38 AM
The guitar solo in Rainbow always makes me smile.
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Post by: Himu on June 21, 2019, 10:24:53 AM
Is Holy Diver Power Metal? If so, I think I found my metal sub genre.

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Anthropologist Sam Dunn traced the origins of power metal back to the late 1970s, when the groundwork for power metal lyrical style was laid down by Ronnie James Dio. The fantasy-oriented lyrics he wrote for Rainbow, concentrated around medieval, renaissance, folk, and science fiction themes, directly influenced modern power metal bands


Yeah found my shit!!
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Post by: Himu on June 21, 2019, 10:30:35 AM
I’m sure metal sounds flat on a telecaster but I gotta learn Holy Diver on my guitar. Wew lad.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: agrajag on June 21, 2019, 11:10:57 AM
I wouldn't call it power metal, but at the end of the day labels are just words, it's your enjoyment that matters.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: headwalk on June 21, 2019, 11:18:43 AM
i've always swerved w.a.s.p because, i mean it's w.a.s.p, but i've been listening to the crimson idol for my sins and it's truly is a campy masterpiece. guitar on it is a proper buzzsaw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNoLz54b3tI

i don't know what happened to guitarists who could shred but still kept it raw, loose and full of swagger. the 80s was loaded with them with rhoads, EVH, viv campbell, nuno bettencourt, george lynch, slash and whoever else, but since then while you've got some absolutely unreal technical guitarists, but they all seem to be a bit on the wrong side of the virgin/chad spectrum as far as personality in their playing goes.
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Post by: agrajag on June 21, 2019, 11:37:22 AM
Couldn't agree more with the above. Modern shredders are too clinical and pristine and guitar tones and production also has become too homogenized so everyone sounds the same.
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Post by: agrajag on June 21, 2019, 11:43:59 AM
Glad you mentioned Nuno. I saw him twice, once with Extreme and then a few months ago on the Generation Axe tour with Vai, Zakk Wylde, Malmsteen, and Tosin Abasi. Absolutely unreal player.
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Post by: headwalk on June 21, 2019, 11:51:13 AM
extreme II: pornograffiti is one of the top 5 guitar records of all time. the absolute apex of groove, melody and technicality. i mean i get why they don't get rated because more than words is the only song they made a name for themselves with, and that's just a boring soppy pantie wetter, but nuno should be up in the very top tier in the pantheon of axe gods.
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Post by: agrajag on June 21, 2019, 11:54:25 AM
I think he's the greatest pure rock guitar player of all time. He has it all, both insane rythm chops, melody, creativity, memorable riff and song construction, unique, blistering speed, technique, he has it all in spades. And on top of all that, he's a pretty good singer.

There's a video of Brian May just losing his mind over the Get the Funk Out solo
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Post by: headwalk on June 21, 2019, 11:55:57 AM
and a late 80's pinup dreamboat who is still looking good nearly 30 years later.
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Post by: agrajag on June 21, 2019, 11:58:43 AM
and a late 80's pinup dreamboat who is still looking good nearly 30 years later.

I'm straight as an American made 4x4, but I think it moved when I saw Nuno a few feet away.
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Post by: Himu on June 21, 2019, 12:01:36 PM
There's a video of Brian May just losing his mind over the Get the Funk Out solo

Link
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Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 21, 2019, 12:01:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0396_bsM5eY

Some girlpower on the guitar.

(http://chulavista.mx/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Wata.jpg)
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Post by: Himu on June 21, 2019, 12:09:32 PM
Didn’t know les Paul was a metal guitar. Everyone I’ve seen uses Ibanez
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Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 21, 2019, 12:12:36 PM
Think a bunch of people in the stoner/doom circle use a les Paul.
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Post by: headwalk on June 21, 2019, 12:13:51 PM
good ibanez's have wide, flat, thin necks with great access to the upper frets, high gain pickups as standard and a great tremelo setup, they are custom made for shredding, but to my ear have a much more thin, artificial sound compared to a les paul which sounds like a warhammer when fitted with the right pickups.

i've got an ibanez RG550 and a les paul and the LP is the one i'm running out the burning house with.
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Post by: agrajag on June 21, 2019, 12:14:58 PM
I place Dimebag Darrell in that category. A lot of metalheads don't realize how insanely talented he was. I wasn't fortunate enough to see him live, but my friend saw him on tour in Brazil and told me some stories about how Dime came out chugging straight Crown, handed off his liquor cup to some fans, and then proceeded to play every son, every solo note for note. And keep in mind, Pantera js a one guitar band, there is no backing guitar to hide any mistakes. And he had such raw, unbridled energy and power he didn't need any backing.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: agrajag on June 21, 2019, 12:15:47 PM
Think a bunch of people in the stoner/doom circle use a les Paul.

A lot of metal players period use Les Pauls. They're great guitars for metal.
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Post by: headwalk on June 21, 2019, 12:20:03 PM
There's a video of Brian May just losing his mind over the Get the Funk Out solo

Link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqkKFhFMaIw

every song on that album is an absolute guitar masterclass:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6XOrw6Ws3g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncQ79NT4N9Q
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Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 21, 2019, 12:25:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpVE2Jk8doE
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Post by: agrajag on June 21, 2019, 12:26:22 PM
my favorite Extreme solo is from Play With Me off their self-titled, although He Man Woman Hater is a close second.
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Post by: Brehvolution on June 21, 2019, 02:53:50 PM
It's good to see some Nuno love. Being 14 and seeing Kid Ego on MTV made me immediately go out an buy the tape. He became a guitar god to me from that point.
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Post by: Himu on June 21, 2019, 05:44:55 PM
Brehs I got a couple cds today and listened while driving.

I’ve not listened to cds and years. I’ve been getting vinyl and streaming. Cd sounds way better than I remember. Helps I’m on these car stereo speakers.
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Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on June 21, 2019, 05:52:56 PM
I gotta be honest fellas. Ive got a few friends who swear by metal and I just can't do it. Somebody post something that will change my mind man.
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Post by: Himu on June 21, 2019, 06:00:43 PM
Think a bunch of people in the stoner/doom circle use a les Paul.

A lot of metal players period use Les Pauls. They're great guitars for metal.

Surprised. I tried a smaller Les Paul last year and I loved it so much. Wonder if that’d be a good metal guitar. Been wanting to get it.
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Post by: agrajag on June 21, 2019, 06:05:18 PM
Think a bunch of people in the stoner/doom circle use a les Paul.

A lot of metal players period use Les Pauls. They're great guitars for metal.

Surprised. I tried a smaller Les Paul last year and I loved it so much. Wonder if that’d be a good metal guitar. Been wanting to get it.

90% of it is the right pickups/amp/settings
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Post by: agrajag on June 21, 2019, 10:26:44 PM
https://youtu.be/moZwgUex4aA

https://youtu.be/FLNB6rbibHI

 :lawd
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Post by: Transhuman on June 21, 2019, 10:31:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02nAH_oAjeg
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Post by: agrajag on June 22, 2019, 12:17:39 AM
Cindi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZvxBwwggCY
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Post by: Himu on June 22, 2019, 12:34:58 AM
Cindi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZvxBwwggCY

I watched it and didn't like the music. :( It has the drums I don't like. So far I've only tried Dragon Force and from my first tasting, I don't like them.
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Post by: agrajag on June 22, 2019, 12:36:22 AM
Power Metal is one of my least favorite genres of metal. Blind Guardian is the only band I really love.

Dragon Force sucks.  :lol
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Post by: Himu on June 22, 2019, 12:36:55 AM
I remember people going on about them around 2005.
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Post by: agrajag on June 22, 2019, 12:43:18 AM
I feel like Dragon Force is for people born in the late 90's and 2000's.  It's obnoxious and just has no balls and not even the spirit of the original power metal bands. Plus their guitar players are known for utilizing studio trickery to record parts they can't even reproduce live.
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Post by: Himu on June 22, 2019, 12:46:36 AM
I desperately need more metal in the same feel as Holy Diver. Music has never empowered like this before. :( I need more. Went through Rainbow and Dio Sabbath today and I still ended up listening to Holy Diver (lp) back to back to back. I even went out to look for the cd version so I could bask in the visuals, store, notes, pictures, booklet, and lyrics. No luck.
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Post by: agrajag on June 22, 2019, 01:09:36 AM
here Cindi, you may not like this band's entire body of work because they probably have "drums you don't like," but this track should be up your alley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrvX6aB8CYs

Symphony X may up your alley, they are a good mix of prog and power metal with lots of shredding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP4-iY3J3wc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzmZtXDI22M
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Post by: Himu on June 22, 2019, 02:06:01 AM
Listening to St Vitus’ Born Too Late as I drift to sleep. So far enjoying the slow tempo a lot.

here Cindi, you may not like this band's entire body of work because they probably have "drums you don't like," but this track should be up your alley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrvX6aB8CYs

Symphony X may up your alley, they are a good mix of prog and power metal with lots of shredding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP4-iY3J3wc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzmZtXDI22M

LOVE the first! The other are ok. I like the guitar work but it’s not etching itself into my heart.
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Post by: headwalk on June 22, 2019, 08:03:36 AM
I desperately need more metal in the same feel as Holy Diver. Music has never empowered like this before. :( I need more. Went through Rainbow and Dio Sabbath today and I still ended up listening to Holy Diver (lp) back to back to back. I even went out to look for the cd version so I could bask in the visuals, store, notes, pictures, booklet, and lyrics. No luck.

i think no-one has mentioned maiden because they're such an omnipresence in metal that it almost seems superfluous.
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Post by: Himu on June 22, 2019, 08:38:41 AM
I desperately need more metal in the same feel as Holy Diver. Music has never empowered like this before. :( I need more. Went through Rainbow and Dio Sabbath today and I still ended up listening to Holy Diver (lp) back to back to back. I even went out to look for the cd version so I could bask in the visuals, store, notes, pictures, booklet, and lyrics. No luck.

i think no-one has mentioned maiden because they're such an omnipresence in metal that it almost seems superfluous.

Been listening to them too.
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Post by: headwalk on June 22, 2019, 08:50:27 AM
don't swerve the first two albums, completely different vibe but some people prefer them.

the only ones to avoid are anything after seventh son and before brave new world.
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Post by: Himu on June 22, 2019, 08:59:57 AM
don't swerve the first two albums, completely different vibe but some people prefer them.

the only ones to avoid are anything after seventh son and before brave new world.

Started with self title. It’s good.

Nothing has topped Holy Diver.
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Post by: Potato on June 22, 2019, 09:17:54 AM
Wow, this thread evolved.

Agra seems to have everything in check here as far as metal recommendations go (+1 for the katatonia). I'd just like to pitch in with what is probably the best melo-death I've heard in decades.
https://youtu.be/OaeT1RU5ViQ
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Post by: Himu on June 22, 2019, 09:37:01 AM
Been listening to Rainbow as well.

Basically keep flipping between Holy Diver, Rainbow, Dio Sabbath, Iron Maiden. Going to listen to more Maiden then add some Motörhead.
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Post by: Himu on June 22, 2019, 10:19:57 AM
https://youtu.be/nXucripcAgc
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Post by: agrajag on June 22, 2019, 10:25:31 AM
Motörhead  :yuck
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Post by: agrajag on June 22, 2019, 12:18:37 PM
The only good power metal band is Slough Feg probably.

Cyndi you should give doom metal a try, I think a lot of the bands being Christian probably works for you. Saint Vitus, Candlemass, and Trouble are bomb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUnEYq23_VM


here's some juicy goodies for the doom boys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrRi25jZRFY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmyWeOvF_Sg
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Post by: headwalk on June 22, 2019, 01:37:49 PM
i actually think i prefer dio sabbath and ozzy's solo stuff (rhoads era) to anything sabbath did with ozzy.

and i prefer the faith no more version of my favourite sabbath ozzy era song.
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Post by: agrajag on June 22, 2019, 01:52:58 PM
i actually think i prefer dio sabbath and ozzy's solo stuff (rhoads era) to anything sabbath did with ozzy.

and i prefer the faith no more version of my favourite sabbath ozzy era song.

Same. Solo Ozzy always had badass guitarists.
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Post by: Potato on June 22, 2019, 04:03:45 PM
I have been really getting into the female-fronted 70s revival doom rock thing that's been happening for a while.

Bands like The Riven and Gone Cosmic have really taken up heaps of my listening time over the last couple of years.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNorRoeqs2Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH71YKryOJE
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Post by: Himu on June 22, 2019, 04:12:56 PM
I have been really getting into the female-fronted 70s revival doom rock thing that's been happening for a while.

Bands like The Riven and Gone Cosmic have really taken up heaps of my listening time over the last couple of years.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNorRoeqs2Q



This is fucking dope. Rhythmic drums <3 The guitar work <3

Best modern metal song posted in this thread easily.
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Post by: Himu on June 22, 2019, 04:32:12 PM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH71YKryOJE

THIS IS ALSO DOPE :gladbron
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Post by: Himu on June 22, 2019, 04:49:38 PM
Wow, this thread evolved.

Agra seems to have everything in check here as far as metal recommendations go (+1 for the katatonia). I'd just like to pitch in with what is probably the best melo-death I've heard in decades.
https://youtu.be/OaeT1RU5ViQ

The only good power metal band is Slough Feg probably.

Cyndi you should give doom metal a try, I think a lot of the bands being Christian probably works for you. Saint Vitus, Candlemass, and Trouble are bomb.


here's some juicy goodies for the doom boys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrRi25jZRFY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmyWeOvF_Sg

:gladbron

I. AM. IN. LOVE.

:rejoice

METAL :rock
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Post by: Potato on June 22, 2019, 06:10:24 PM
Metal up your ass!!!
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Post by: Himu on June 22, 2019, 06:25:43 PM
Seems I was wrong Agra. I didn't watch that bastardized history of power metal vid you posted. I checked some of the recs like Demon Bitch it fucking slaps, dude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOQoUdS7Hw0

This is the video I watched.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpe8eNdpAiM

Sorry I got it wrong.

I checked out Manowar after and they're fucking :rock

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dll329ggLIY

This is VERY similar to the feeling Holy Diver gives me. I LOVE it!
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Post by: agrajag on June 22, 2019, 06:54:43 PM
lol sounds like you got into really bad power metal

and I knew you didn't watch the bastardized history because you said "you hated how it sounds" and there is no music in the video

 :dead
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Post by: Himu on June 22, 2019, 07:10:54 PM
I got the videos mixed up for some reason.
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Post by: agrajag on June 22, 2019, 07:17:55 PM
https://youtu.be/im8QiF2jG7I

https://youtu.be/92vvMEgDkA8
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Post by: Himu on June 22, 2019, 07:19:27 PM
lol sounds like you got into really bad power metal


This.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jgrCKhxE1s
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Post by: agrajag on June 22, 2019, 07:23:47 PM
lol sounds like you got into really bad power metal


This.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jgrCKhxE1s

that's awful too. I mean, if you like Manowar, more power to you. I was actually going to suggest you the very song you posted, but I second guessed myself. I don't mind some cheese on my metql, but even I have my limits.
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Post by: Himu on June 22, 2019, 07:28:47 PM
No I'm not saying I like Dragon Force. I'm saying that's the song that made me go,"this is power metal?" *throws up*
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Post by: agrajag on June 22, 2019, 07:33:52 PM
I was talking about Manowar.
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Post by: Himu on June 22, 2019, 07:34:27 PM
:maf
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Post by: headwalk on June 22, 2019, 07:53:44 PM
this is officially a metal thread now we're bitching out dragonforce.

the worst thing is how much of their shit they fake:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw-wLgD_K-I
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Post by: agrajag on June 22, 2019, 07:55:07 PM
yah I mentioned that. And tons of gullible ass teenagers  never be the wiser and will defend their idols to their death.

Why'd you edit the post headwalk  :maf
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Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 22, 2019, 08:02:11 PM
i with a little shame like this new slipknot single  :-[

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpATBBRajP8
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Post by: headwalk on June 22, 2019, 08:04:51 PM
yah I mentioned that. And tons of gullible ass teenagers  never be the wiser and will defend their idols to their death.

Why'd you edit the post headwalk  :maf

didn't mean to delete the other part.

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Post by: Himu on June 22, 2019, 11:22:12 PM
https://youtu.be/io4ObwuO24w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZvqZhskVPE

:rock

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxWsDJjsFKI
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Post by: Himu on June 23, 2019, 01:47:53 AM
I'm 90% convinced Iron Maiden's Killers is a concept album.
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Post by: Himu on June 23, 2019, 02:57:03 AM
Motörhead :kobeyuck

Lemmy’s voice :yuck

RIP but different strokes dude
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Post by: headwalk on June 23, 2019, 07:17:07 AM
dump of some recent throwback stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LZ99QeDDnc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODNqxcRQGH4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z9QYnU0ZDA
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Post by: agrajag on June 23, 2019, 11:59:44 AM
Motörhead :kobeyuck

Lemmy’s voice :yuck

RIP but different strokes dude

told u
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Post by: Himu on June 23, 2019, 02:32:01 PM
Who else, besides Dio, created fantastical worlds in their songs? Maiden rocks and has amazing story telling but so far their stories are of THIS world, not the world of Dio's which we can only assume is called Heavy Metal.
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Post by: Himu on June 23, 2019, 02:41:50 PM
Giving Motorhead another shot today. *grimaces*
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Post by: agrajag on June 23, 2019, 02:42:41 PM
spend your time listening to good bands instead
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Post by: Himu on June 23, 2019, 02:47:51 PM
I like their speed but Lemmy's voice *purses lips*

I really respect they brought speed and energy to metal and I don't want to disrespect legends, but...
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Post by: Himu on June 23, 2019, 02:55:00 PM
Were motorhead albums recorded in a bathroom? The mixing is so bad. Like I'm listening to White Line Fever and the guitars sound muted.
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Post by: Himu on June 23, 2019, 02:58:12 PM
Skipping Motorhead for Twisted Sister.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRwrg0db_zY

VICE CITY :rejoice
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Post by: Himu on June 23, 2019, 02:58:36 PM
It was an OG single from when they were first starting out. Personally I'm a fan of grimy underground mixing :yeshrug

Ace of Spades sounds similar.
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Post by: Himu on June 23, 2019, 03:02:46 PM
DEE SNIDER THE LEGEND :rejoice

https://youtu.be/S0Vyr1TylTE
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Post by: Rufus on June 23, 2019, 05:33:04 PM
Speaking of Motorhead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgfpHJ6npO0
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Post by: Himu on June 23, 2019, 05:47:48 PM
They do have a guttural sound all around but I'd disagree with that seeing as that White Lines Fever recording is my favorite for how rough it is.

Not all bands are going to click with you and that's fine, but Motorhead had a pretty good run there for a while. Not sure why Lemmy's voice bothers you this much but different strokes and all that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4wMn21DePs

Just going to drop this here cause it's sick and let you move on to whatever else.

Song is a total headbanger. Good stuff. Hopefully I can get into them. I love Lemmy as a person. Seemed like a rocking dude.
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Post by: Himu on June 23, 2019, 05:53:34 PM
Giving Motörhead the ol five listen try. Last night I couldn’t get through their first album because of Lemmy’s voice so I don’t consider that an earnest try. I’ll give them five legitimate listens.

I’ve been listening to so many acts with opera vocals that I’m sure found his singing a shock. I’ll force myself to get used to it by listening more.
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Post by: Himu on June 23, 2019, 06:23:42 PM
This song is fantastic

https://youtu.be/8ZDvyHZi09I

And then you compare it to this

https://youtu.be/IQe6kmvPaRw

Ugh
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Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 23, 2019, 06:33:29 PM
i like songs with a good meaning behind them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5nRpvMnpjc
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Post by: Himu on June 23, 2019, 06:54:40 PM
Amirox’s favorite song!
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Post by: headwalk on June 23, 2019, 07:59:10 PM
was halford's sexuality an open secret before came out?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhY9GOhFwN4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsLDB_xrBU4

along with the leather daddy atire, he wasn't exactly subtle about it.
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Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 23, 2019, 08:20:15 PM
well yeah kind of. on one hand there is a lot of theatrical metal bands out there, that look reaaaaally gay, and actually aren't. but people apparently werent too surprised with him


Quote
Then there was the frontman’s outfit. The chained sailor’s cap, leather trousers and cut-off leather jacket over a bare chest, accessorised by studded wristbands and a whip, screamed one clear message to us kids: he must be really hard.

“In all honesty it never crossed my mind,” says Rob Halford, who came out in 1998 to the surprise of no one, apart from the under-12s. “I would dress up in leather, with the whips and chains, and the farthest thing from my mind was that I looked like a gay guy. Later on, when people referenced it, I thought, ‘You know what? Maybe they’ve got a point.’ ”

Heavy metal is a mostly heterosexual world, despite its theatrical tendencies. You would imagine Halford’s coming-out might dent the band’s appeal. In fact, the opposite happened.

“The reaction from the metal crowd was, ‘You think we didn’t know?’ ” he says. “Heavy metal fans feel like outsiders anyway and it turns out I wasn’t the only gay in the metal village. I got these wonderful letters, beautiful expressions of solidarity, people saying what a relief it had been for them. Now here we are in 2018 and we still have a long way to go.”


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/when-judas-priests-rob-halford-came-out-as-gay-the-metal-crowd-said-you-think-we-didnt-know-93zm2kfwr
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Post by: Himu on June 23, 2019, 08:40:39 PM
The way this doc juxtaposes with flower power is excellent.

https://youtu.be/zmceqLZqvPY
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Post by: headwalk on June 23, 2019, 09:29:22 PM
i mean it makes all priest lyrics better. illicit leather on rubber hookups in biker bar parking lots to the chugging soundtrack of a harley shovelhead is a way more metal image than just having vanilla missonary position sex with a standard issue groupie on the tour bus.
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Post by: Himu on June 23, 2019, 10:07:03 PM
Yeah, Priest with the motorcycles and the leather shit screams gay. Proof that gay can be cool.
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Post by: Trent Dole on June 23, 2019, 11:05:53 PM
Hellbent for leather, indeed. :supergay
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Post by: Himu on June 23, 2019, 11:07:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfTpjrzas5E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lVdMbUx1_k

Black Sabbath's aesthetic is :delicious

Listening to metal is great and everything, but WATCHING...:delicious

It brings the darkness alive. I liked Motorhead a lot more after watching videos on youtube.
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Post by: Potato on June 24, 2019, 12:27:52 AM
I like watching black metal video clips for the cheese factor and the faux evil, half serious, half camp hodgepodge of shite they normally are. Behold the glorious Satyricon and Immortal!!!


 :nsfw
https://youtu.be/VsKZW_9qYmk

https://youtu.be/NP0H491rRFU
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Post by: Himu on June 24, 2019, 07:48:53 AM
Been going to r/metal. They post a lot of new and old stuff. It’s helping me pin down my tastes. I’ve found I don’t like regular death metal but I do like melodic death metal. It’s been really helpful.

Various subgenres I’ve found I like:

Thrash

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ggyabywtCYo

Melodic death

https://youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=PaZ7uAFaU5A

Black

https://youtube.com/watch?frags=pl%2Cwn&v=zGE-zmko_sg

Heavy

https://youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=fVDtdd-LTpY

Melodic death

https://youtube.com/watch?v=VsgEOXlaaI8

Also is death metal the most popular metal genre or something? Because it’s easily the most posted about subgenre on r/metal.
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Post by: headwalk on June 24, 2019, 07:58:15 AM
symphonic death is the absolute centre of the intense/theatric venn:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmsmSGmmjmo

like other people have touched on, one of my favourite things about metal is that it exists in a quantum state where it both takes itself 100% seriously while being a massive over the top parody of itself at the same time.
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Post by: Himu on June 24, 2019, 08:05:13 AM
How is that symphonic
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Post by: Himu on June 24, 2019, 08:13:15 AM
I’m learning the subgenres within subgenres. :lol

Like Helloween might as well be a different power metal than DragonPoop :lol

Helloween :rock

So far it’s looking like traditional metal, power, and some death are my genres. :) Thrash is okay but feels more uhhh youthful? I don’t have that rage. Could work depending on context but thrash seems TOO ANGRY for me. Idk could be wrong.

POWER :rejoice

THE POWER UNLEASHED BY DIO :rejoice

Also Holy Diver still remains my favorite metal album. :rejoice
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Post by: Himu on June 24, 2019, 05:18:44 PM
Holy FUCK. I listened to Number of the Beast last night twice in a row. I liked it but listened through iPhone with Apple buds. Today I listened to it on my car speakers while working. The difference is night and day. What a fucking album!

Definitely investing in better speakers for home.
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Post by: Potato on June 24, 2019, 07:42:15 PM
Maiden truly are a giant step above most other bands
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Post by: headwalk on June 24, 2019, 09:24:50 PM
Holy FUCK. I listened to Number of the Beast last night twice in a row. I liked it but listened through iPhone with Apple buds. Today I listened to it on my car speakers while working. The difference is night and day. What a fucking album!

Definitely investing in better speakers for home.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UBESr0O71U&list=RD_UBESr0O71U&index=1
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Post by: Himu on June 24, 2019, 10:00:14 PM
:rock

Hallowed be they name is more impressive on each listen. HOLY FUCK.

And watching it live is insane!

https://youtu.be/_BFXCgm5270
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Post by: Himu on June 25, 2019, 01:40:13 AM
Yeah, I ended up listening to death metal all night while reading.

My conclusion: I think death metal is shit. Technicality means jack shit if your album has very little song variety, songs use the same motifs over and over, you only know one type of song writing: go 100 or go 110, and musicianship takes precedence over songwriting, and being fast and extreme is the only sole purpose for your art. Probably as boring a genre as trap, and many pop genres metalheads gripe about.

Different strokes.

I'm REALLY like traditional heavy metal, stoner metal, power metal, new wave of british metal, and prog metal. I'm really finding my groove. I'll finish the 80's new wave then start branching out. :rock
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Post by: Potato on June 25, 2019, 01:48:15 AM
Can't disagree with that assessment. There are a huge number of death metal subgenres though, so maybe you just need to find the right one. Melodic death metal is often a good gateway drug into broader death metal.


Have you tried Morbid Angel's Covenant or Deicide's self titled album?
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Post by: Himu on June 25, 2019, 02:10:04 AM
I tried melodic and although I like that more than standard death metal even that is like shooting a fish in an ocean for me. I thought it'd be for me based off some of the stuff I listened to but the more I explored the less I liked and realized the ones I liked were just exceptions.

I have listened to Death's Scream Bloody Gore, Cannibal Corpse's Scream Bloody Gore, Cannibal Corpse's The Bleeding, At The Gates' Slaughter of the Soul, In Flames, Bolt Thunder, some Kalmuh.
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Post by: Potato on June 25, 2019, 03:45:33 AM
Try the two I mentioned earlier. If you don't enjoy those then death metal is not for you.

Edit: Although, I would have gone for Cannibal Corpse's  Eaten Back to Life rather than The Bleeding.

Edit edit: You MUST try Carcass's Heartwork album too. Probably the most musically accomplished straight death metal album ever.
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Post by: Himu on June 25, 2019, 09:27:44 AM
When you find out one of the greatest songs you’ve ever heard was stolen :tocry
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Potato on June 25, 2019, 09:45:20 AM
Song?
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Himu on June 25, 2019, 10:02:28 AM
Song?


http://metaltalk.net/news_eighteen/iron_maiden_hallowed_claim_settled.php

It's two bars.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Himu on June 25, 2019, 10:03:40 PM
Song is too amazing to care.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vP2hFFV57E

Those lines are the worst in the song.

Yeah, I'm fucking rationalizing and I don't care.

MAIDEN :rock

I also forgot my favorite song Vice City was Maiden's 2 Minutes To Midnight :bow

Cannot wait to get to Powerslave.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Himu on June 26, 2019, 12:00:52 AM
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Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Himu on June 26, 2019, 03:07:00 AM
Death metal isn’t shit after all.

Sepultara’s Arise is incredible. Finally death metal that’s textured.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Potato on June 26, 2019, 03:54:55 AM
Arise is generally classified as thrash, but it does share a lot of similarities with death metal. Great album by the way, try Beneath the Remains too.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Brehvolution on June 26, 2019, 09:19:57 AM
Golden Years was one of my fave maiden songs to play guitar with.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Himu on June 26, 2019, 10:01:48 AM
I'll stop posting as much. I'm sure it's annoying!

I've got a great road map going to get the metal fundamentals.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 26, 2019, 10:27:42 AM
i like it.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Himu on June 26, 2019, 11:41:57 AM
https://www.loudersound.com/features/dee-snider-twisted-sister-interview-2016-metal-meltdown-lemmy

Dee Snider is a really cool guy.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Himu on June 27, 2019, 02:38:08 AM
Wow I listened to a shit ton of metal today.

Reviews:

Anthrax - Fistful of Metal - average and boring with some bright spots, listened to their follow up album and it was better but I just wasn't feeling it. Will keep listening to their albums.

Saxon - Saxon - is this even heavy metal? It's good but not heavy metal to me considering the time period it was released. Apparently Saxon becomes metal on their second LP. I'll check it.

Mercyful Fate - Melissa - broke new ground today. I refused to listen to any satanist musicians or artists and considering King Diamond is a satanist I passed them over. But by opening my mind I decided to listen  and give them a chance. Surprisingly great album that serves as a wonderful prototype for thrash. Really proud of myself for giving them a shot despite my initial concerns.

Slayer - Show No Mercy - Holy. Fucking. Shit. Best metal debut I've heard so far. Insane album. Although the content has a lot of satanist stuff, they're clearly playing theatrics and being edgy and it's working. A lot. They're so horrifying and great at conveying atmosphere.

Megadeth - Peace Sells - Megadeth and Metallica are the first metal albums I listened to ten years ago. I wanted to revisit them. Years later, I still prefer Megadeth. Artistically, lyrically, sonically, they just appeal to me more.

Metallica - Kill Em All - still dope.

Wew. Topping it off with Slayer and Manilla Road before bed.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 27, 2019, 05:12:10 PM
https://youtu.be/X_obDOtfE7M
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 27, 2019, 05:19:13 PM
I have listened to Death's Scream Bloody Gore.

Give Spiritual Healing and/or Human a try.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: headwalk on June 27, 2019, 05:29:25 PM
https://youtu.be/X_obDOtfE7M

this rips. cheers.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Himu on June 27, 2019, 05:55:12 PM
Saxon’s albums after their debut :obama
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 28, 2019, 05:21:55 AM
Can we mix jazz and death metal? Should we?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NolrcYGVJ_A

The answer is yes.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Himu on June 29, 2019, 03:00:12 AM
Manilla Road - So far I've only covered their debut. Stellar stuff.

Death - Skeptical giving them another shot but I quite liked Leprosy. I've found that car speakers work really well for death metal. Although I'm not the biggest death metal fan this helped me appreciate it a lot more. I liked it! I was also really mad when I listened to it and ended up challenging my anger into the music. Very therapeutic. Although I liked it didn't rid of my overall complaints with the genre: that it's too repetitive, there's little song variety. Definitely pushes me to try more melodeath though!

SaxonWhile Saxon's debut LP, self titled Saxon, was a good hard rock album it wasn't heavy metal. Wheels of Steel / Denim and Leather more than make up for this. These albums are rock hard. Very, very heavy metal and two classics.

Girlschool - So far I like them.

Demon Bitch - Easily my favorite modern band so far. They're lo-fi  trad metal and they kick ass. Listen to Hellfriends.

Uncle Acid - Good stoner metal. My introduction to doom metal outside of this thread. Like!

Venom - What an utterly surprising record in Black Metal. You can tell Slayer's influences here as well as where the Black Metal label came from. The cover is depicting Satan and yet the actual content is far from Satanic. Real surprise.

Loving the genre. Only complaint is that death metal is too popular in modern metal. Someone put on to the local metal radio bloc and it was mostly death metal. It just lacks variety. I have no idea why people just want death metal, it makes no sense. Like it all you want but why does it have to encapsulate so much of the genre? Fuck.

I also don't like death metal fans from what I've seen for the most part. Like this ridiculous article on Noisey. International Slayer Day but it's a bad day because...Slayer isn't really Satanist?

Quote
Given vocalist Tom Araya’s avowed Catholic faith, any reference to Satanism or apostasy inadvertently falls a bit flat, and one wonders whether we sort of… wasted… that day on a band who are thoroughly iconic and objectively sick, but don’t actually give much of a toss about the Dark Lord.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/59qkmn/satan-deserves-better-than-slayer
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Potato on June 29, 2019, 03:31:03 AM
I'm interested to hear your thoughts on something like My Dying Bride. They occupy quite a unique subgenre (doom/death) and are like a mix of gothic rock and death metal.

Their Turn Loose the Swans album is one of my all time top 5. I think you might find something of value there.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 29, 2019, 03:44:14 AM
If you're starting to "enjoy" Death more, they basically start incorporating jazz from this point on. Each album getting more experimental.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Himu on June 29, 2019, 04:06:04 AM
I'll listen to Human.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Himu on June 29, 2019, 11:45:03 AM
What’s the best site or whatever to catalog the music you listen to. Besides last.fm
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 29, 2019, 12:07:59 PM
Watching converge, the armed and whores in 7 days. so fucking excited especially to see the armed again. never actually seen converge live somehow.

Anselmo will also be there with whatever idiots that wants to still play with him. Will show up to do hitler salute with him. Will probably catch The Cure and Behemoth as well, even if I care little for them.

I'll always appreciate some Gojira. Those dudes are fucking amazing live too.

i am mr gilhaney and i approve of this message.

Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 29, 2019, 01:21:25 PM
Good to see Gojira mentioned. One of the only newer death metal bands I can actually stand. From Mars to Sirius is basically what got me into the genre.
Title: Re: This somehow turned into a Heavy Metal thread :idont
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 30, 2019, 02:55:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1SWW2iOJTg

Have some more stoner metal.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on June 30, 2019, 11:42:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjnwOVaI7V8

https://youtu.be/2-FjO3E8K-E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNyw0iaxxHs

Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 01, 2019, 12:32:04 AM
So I've sampled about every metal genre.

I can't believe I'm about to say this but I fucking love black metal. No offense to those who love it, but I think it shits on death metal. I listened to samples of atmospheric black metal and it's fucking art. I liked what I heard from black metal instantly. I have ignored it because I chalked it up as the most extreme metal genre full of satanists, nazi's, and racists.

But I'm truly in love here. And the lyrics are incredible.

https://youtu.be/yTnfzWehaGg

This is like the M83 of metal. :notlikethis

And this is nothing short of incredible work.

https://youtu.be/kAajs4oMbpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXXFPm0AjLA

I don't know what to do. It's easily the most haram genre but it's fucking beauty from what I've been exposed to so far.

I read this thread on r/christianity and the replies really helped me come to turns with it.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/bxhaed/black_metal_and_christianity/

Found a convenient doc to help out avoid fascist black metal. Whew.

edit:

(https://i.imgur.com/DHihGgZ.gif)

DREAM THEATER
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Brehvolution on July 01, 2019, 10:50:16 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2nuzVEbUzw

Slightly different vocal style for "Black Metal", but the music itself is a nice little ride.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 01, 2019, 11:16:09 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2nuzVEbUzw

Slightly different vocal style for "Black Metal", but the music itself is a nice little ride.

That was great. Nice twists and turns and fucked with my expectations. Had me like :obama during that transition. Late in the song I heard what sounded like what was seemingly a guitar and it was the singer! :o Holy crap. Black metal is really clicking with me.

Checked them and didn’t see any NSBM ties. Good - they check out!
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 01, 2019, 11:54:25 AM
Now that I’ve sampled everything I can list what I like:

* represents a favorite

Heavy metal which includes NWOBHM*
Thrash
Speed
Doom*
Stoner Doom*
Sludge
Power*
Black*
Atmospheric black*
Post-black

I don’t like:

Death
Prog, with the caveat that there are some good prog bands like Queensrÿche
Nu
Core

I’ve got enough bands here to last me quite a while basically.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: headwalk on July 01, 2019, 02:59:11 PM
i love when black metal powers through to basically euphoria. i always liked vattnet viskar but never listened to astronoid, doing it now and having a lovely time of it.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Brehvolution on July 01, 2019, 03:32:25 PM
I really enjoyed most of the Air album.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 01, 2019, 04:24:59 PM
btw i was listening to Death the other day in my car. i dropped something off for someone and when I saw them I rolled down the windows to give to them, and they laughed at me listening to Death. :(
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 03, 2019, 12:40:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSh8OWfGXLg

Can't believe you linked EyeHateGod. A black christian linking songs from a band that made this. (Think they changed the song name after Melvins' drummer Dale Crover toured with them though.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CJdk-UZjAE

Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 03, 2019, 01:06:24 PM
Didn’t know. They’re now off the list.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 03, 2019, 01:18:44 PM
I google any black metal band I listen to for nsbm ties. Surprisingly the more I listen to metal the more I don’t care about the anti Christian sentiment. I feel for them, truly. What gets me is the racism. That’s my line and I’m not sure why it’s tolerated within metal.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 03, 2019, 01:45:28 PM
I've found groups and documents that help people find non-fascist/white supremacist black metal by listing racist bands.

Here's the doc.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ERHBY2aDVQ2_1nhPl_zi1oF4ogZK5PCiDk7hKxBK65Q/htmlview?fbclid=IwAR0GUrqsd6kHRLZraCbSPrkWUjPOEkCg4SUjIqzvmCV0zHf_5ndKp5KqtPY

Adding to OP.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 03, 2019, 02:01:57 PM
DEATH METAL SUCKS!

(https://i.imgur.com/lHDDA5Z.gif)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmYgJPOEH2Q

that was good :obama
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 03, 2019, 02:38:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wRTxBhqNuY

Apparently I've got a death metal band on my like list.

What kind of death metal is this? This doesn't make me want to kill myself.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 03, 2019, 02:55:01 PM
I will say that after Human and Leprosy that I *like* Death. So maybe it's a matter of getting used to the genre.

Death especially clicked when I watched them live. It felt like a more heavy version of thrash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_rJf41xfsg
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 03, 2019, 03:00:53 PM
maybe you it slow and/or brutal :idont :dead


I do. It's why I gravitated to black and like doom. It can be slower and with an emphasis on atmosphere. Unlike what a lot of edgy extreme metalheads think, FAST != HEAVY. Black Sabbath's self titled song is one of the heaviest, if not THE heaviest songs I've ever heard and it's slow as balls. Slowness allows you to soak every note, every beat. Slowness allows a heavy, thick atmosphere.

SPEED != HEAVY

The songs you posted are pretty good and much better than the death metal I usually hear.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 03, 2019, 03:15:58 PM
Fast is great but not when EVERY SONG IS FAST just because the bands wants to show off how fast they are.

Speed is excellent when used as an implicit artistic goal within a song. What emotion does it convey? What is the band trying to say?

If it's meant to show nothing, then what's the point of the music?

Take Peace Sells. It starts with a slow bass line and the entire song is about anger and frustration with a never ending system that produces war, death, and systemic apathy, which makes the final minute of it all the therapeutic when it goes dog raw with feet stamping speed. Is it as fast a lot of death metal bands? No, but the point is made.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiQpRQeIiHY

This is of course MY OPINION, which I am highlighting because I don't think it's objective, but for my tastes I prefer music that conveys a meaning through its sound. Certain tempos for instance convey an emotion and mood.

Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on July 03, 2019, 03:30:32 PM
I've found groups and documents that help people find non-fascist/white supremacist black metal by listing racist bands.

Here's the doc.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ERHBY2aDVQ2_1nhPl_zi1oF4ogZK5PCiDk7hKxBK65Q/htmlview?fbclid=IwAR0GUrqsd6kHRLZraCbSPrkWUjPOEkCg4SUjIqzvmCV0zHf_5ndKp5KqtPY

Adding to OP.

If I can't do nazi salutes at my black metal shows, then it isn't black metal
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 03, 2019, 03:33:14 PM
fast can be good too, unless its speed for speed's sake (see: Dark Angel). some of the complexity, and this shit knocks :lawd

I'm a hardcore Morbid Angel fanboy, maybe give this album a try.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdHJ0u5cLB0

https://youtu.be/ZQICnj5pPKs

:obama

Good shit.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: headwalk on July 03, 2019, 03:47:15 PM
i've posted this somewhere before, but still the most "...woah" album i've heard in years:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10q1ZJyLXFk

minimalist slow burn funeral doom. bleaker than a snuff studio in an orphanage.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Rufus on July 03, 2019, 03:52:31 PM
Try some atmospheric death. It doesn't hold up to repeat listens, but I think it'd be easy to get into.

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=023oNRM72eQ
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on July 03, 2019, 04:08:26 PM
Did you listen to My Dying Bride?

Try this song. It's probably one of the most accessible points into their music.
https://youtu.be/oqZrb3uT4zU
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 03, 2019, 04:20:38 PM

I do. It's why I gravitated to black and like doom. It can be slower and with an emphasis on atmosphere. Unlike what a lot of edgy extreme metalheads think, FAST != HEAVY. Black Sabbath's self titled song is one of the heaviest, if not THE heaviest songs I've ever heard and it's slow as balls. Slowness allows you to soak every note, every beat. Slowness allows a heavy, thick atmosphere.

What you need is Burning Witch's masterpiece.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugDT_5wxSpo
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: skullstorm on July 03, 2019, 04:24:31 PM
Can't believe you linked EyeHateGod. A black christian linking songs from a band that made this. (Think they changed the song name after Melvins' drummer Dale Crover toured with them though.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CJdk-UZjAE

I don't buy that they're racists or that's a racist song (not that I can make out the lyrics lol), they've been asked about it loads of times and they categorically deny being racist or the song being racist, the name was for dumb shock value and they regret giving it that name since it's forever painted them as racists in some people's eyes. Apparently they took the name from a song by the Avengers but I don't know if the Avengers have been called a racist band because of their song.

I mean, make your own mind up about the song and the band, if you feel like they're nazis then whatever, but I just don't see that. Yeah the name is really fucking stupid (and yeah they've changed it since) but they've got other songs with pretty dumb names too. I guess even the band's name is pretty dumb.

Anyway I'm pretty sure there are still some people that think Black Flag and Minor Threat are secret nazi bands too, sooo....  :doge
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 03, 2019, 04:28:32 PM

I do. It's why I gravitated to black and like doom. It can be slower and with an emphasis on atmosphere. Unlike what a lot of edgy extreme metalheads think, FAST != HEAVY. Black Sabbath's self titled song is one of the heaviest, if not THE heaviest songs I've ever heard and it's slow as balls. Slowness allows you to soak every note, every beat. Slowness allows a heavy, thick atmosphere.

What you need is Burning Witch's masterpiece.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugDT_5wxSpo


:gladbron

(https://i.imgur.com/t04Xeiv.gif)
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 03, 2019, 04:32:34 PM

I don't buy that they're racists or that's a racist song (not that I can make out the lyrics lol), they've been asked about it loads of times and they categorically deny being racist or the song being racist, the name was for dumb shock value and they regret giving it that name since it's forever painted them as racists in some people's eyes. Apparently they took the name from a song by the Avengers but I don't know if the Avengers have been called a racist band because of their song.

I mean, make your own mind up about the song and the band, if you feel like they're nazis then whatever, but I just don't see that. Yeah the name is really fucking stupid (and yeah they've changed it since) but they've got other songs with pretty dumb names too. I guess even the band's name is pretty dumb.

Anyway I'm pretty sure there are still some people that think Black Flag and Minor Threat are secret nazi bands too, sooo....  :doge

Loads of their songs are for shock value. They have a two parter called Sister Fucker part 1 and 2. I imagine most of it being tongue-in-cheek.

They also come from New Orleans which is majority afro-american. I imagine being a true racist fuckhead in that place would get pretty rough.

(Edited in the quote)
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 03, 2019, 04:38:00 PM
No they're from Seattle.

They're a doom metal band. I love doom/sludge metal.

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Burning_Witch/1042
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: skullstorm on July 03, 2019, 04:39:43 PM
No he meant Eyehategod
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 03, 2019, 04:45:15 PM
Think the people in Burning Witch ended up forming Sunn O))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkIpddogl_Y

Which is drone.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 03, 2019, 04:46:27 PM
They changed the name and the band seems sorry for it so I might add them back to the list.

https://clrvynt.com/jimmy-bower-interview/

Seems less racist and more "stupid white boy shit" so I can cut them some slack because it'd impossible to listen to anything in this genre if I passed over every band for the stupid white boy shit that they do. The "you can't be racist if you live in New Orleans" thing is also especially stupid if you have read a passing glance of what happened during Hurricane Katrina.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Brehvolution on July 03, 2019, 04:57:01 PM
Not sure what these fall under.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqyKq0DhZg8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgw_8_PKZkE
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 03, 2019, 05:00:44 PM
Not sure what these fall under.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqyKq0DhZg8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgw_8_PKZkE

they fall under head banging

:rock
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: D3RANG3D on July 03, 2019, 05:05:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZOVtKMprfA

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/k3M5tUaoz65a0/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 03, 2019, 05:08:46 PM
I will be pirating Pantera when I listen. Kiss my ass, Phil.

https://youtu.be/7eDp4wFUPMw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxLEb1uBHhw

Stupid white boy shit.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 03, 2019, 05:36:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyQJH615KwA
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Trent Dole on July 03, 2019, 05:48:56 PM
If you ain't stumbled across Jesu they might be something you fux with. Their first EP is 2 songs with a total running time of like 40 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxcCgLMO4n4
Other stuff isn't quite as ridiculously long but still a fun time.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on July 03, 2019, 05:55:04 PM
Why even pirate Pantera. It's five finger death punch for boomers.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: skullstorm on July 03, 2019, 05:57:12 PM
Seems less racist and more "stupid white boy shit" so I can cut them some slack because it'd impossible to listen to anything in this genre if I passed over every band for the stupid white boy shit that they do.

Yeah that's pretty much how I've always seen it. A lot of bands have done some pretty dumb shit for shock value, so I usually just think well maybe they're not the brightest but they rock so I can give it a pass if it's not some clear pattern of shittiness.

While I'm on the subject of EHG, this is one of my favorite band shirts that I own, love the nod to Bad Brains (also not a really big nazi thing to do to make a tribute to them):

(https://shop.r10s.jp/dragtrain/cabinet/band-e/ehg-capital2.jpg)
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 03, 2019, 06:09:37 PM
Why even pirate Pantera. It's five finger death punch for boomers.

Are they wack
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 03, 2019, 06:11:02 PM
Seems less racist and more "stupid white boy shit" so I can cut them some slack because it'd impossible to listen to anything in this genre if I passed over every band for the stupid white boy shit that they do.

Yeah that's pretty much how I've always seen it. A lot of bands have done some pretty dumb shit for shock value, so I usually just think well maybe they're not the brightest but they rock so I can give it a pass if it's not some clear pattern of shittiness.

While I'm on the subject of EHG, this is one of my favorite band shirts that I own, love the nod to Bad Brains (also not a really big nazi thing to do to make a tribute to them):

(https://shop.r10s.jp/dragtrain/cabinet/band-e/ehg-capital2.jpg)

No one accused them of being Nazis. You can be a racist and not a Nazi.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 03, 2019, 07:45:01 PM
Bands whose albums I’ve listened to and like in the past month. Before this thread I really only what was on V-Rock, Metallica’s Ride The Lightning, Rage Against The Machine, and Megadeth’s Rust In Piece. I have been baptized in fire.

- Black Sabbath
- Judas Priest
- KISS
- Iron Maiden
- Venom
- Twisted Sister
- Quiet Riot
- Anthrax
- Slayer
- Megadeth
- Metallica
- Manilla Road
- Jag Panzer
- Saxon
- Dio
- Ozzy
- Sleep
- Pentagram
- Angel Witch
- Diamond Head
- Mercyful Fate
- Girlschool
- Tigers of Pan Tang
- Queensryche
- Trouble
- Saint Vitus
- Motörhead
- Opeth
- Butterfly temple
- Death
- Duel
- Blind Guardian
- Ashbringer
- Lantlos
- Demon Bitch
- Manowar
- Testament
- Sepultara
- Witches in the Throne Room
- Sumerlands
- Uncle Acid
- Electric Wizard
- IronFlame

Favorite songs.

https://youtu.be/15hYMIPQw84
https://youtu.be/iOQoUdS7Hw0
https://youtu.be/1LZ99QeDDnc
https://youtu.be/yTnfzWehaGg
https://youtu.be/2nSAWgdraAo
https://youtu.be/BJGDmGZjXxk
https://youtu.be/gjfiHbf_POs
https://youtu.be/7vP2hFFV57E

Still in the 80’s. I’ve reaches the point where metal splits into various direction. My tastes are traditional (which includes British New Wave), doom, stoner, power, thrash, speed, and atmospheric black. This encompasses A LOT of metal. I’m going to dust off the 80’s with the genres I like and follow them to current day. First metal show is this Friday.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 03, 2019, 07:48:17 PM
Also Demon Bitch and Sumerlands are the best modern metal bands I’ve heard.

My overall favorite band is Iron Maiden. For once, the most popular band also isn’t shitty.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: skullstorm on July 03, 2019, 07:53:13 PM
Seems less racist and more "stupid white boy shit" so I can cut them some slack because it'd impossible to listen to anything in this genre if I passed over every band for the stupid white boy shit that they do.

Yeah that's pretty much how I've always seen it. A lot of bands have done some pretty dumb shit for shock value, so I usually just think well maybe they're not the brightest but they rock so I can give it a pass if it's not some clear pattern of shittiness.

While I'm on the subject of EHG, this is one of my favorite band shirts that I own, love the nod to Bad Brains (also not a really big nazi thing to do to make a tribute to them):

(https://shop.r10s.jp/dragtrain/cabinet/band-e/ehg-capital2.jpg)

No one accused them of being Nazis. You can be a racist and not a Nazi.

Yeah I know lol, it's just how I (and many others, a slang thing) talk in my own language and it seeps in my English writing apparently. I didn't literally mean it, but I was the one who used the word nazi in relation to them in the first place so I was referencing myself. Jokingly.

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But no joke, over here most openly racist people I've met or encountered online are pretty proud to say stuff like "I'm not a racist, I'm a nazi". They think it's so cool lol. My eyes nearly rolled out of my head when a classmate said it totally unironically in front of a bunch of people. Also nazi is a shorter and easier word in Finnish than racist and I'm lazy. Guess I shouldn't use the words interchangeably in English tho since it's not a similar slang thing.

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Plus dat era influence, they label everyone nazis so it's rubbed off on me  :doge :yikes
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Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: skullstorm on July 03, 2019, 08:30:38 PM
This thread is pretty cool btw, I'm not a huge metalhead but I still listen to some metal pretty regularly. But I've always been really lazy about finding new stuff, don't know where to start etc. But lately I've been more into metal and now I have a lot of stuff to discover thanks to this thread.

There's been a lot posted that I already know but also a lot that I don't yet know or have never bothered giving a try. I know there'll be stuff I won't like but I'll still listen to all the songs posted in this thread when I get the chance. Looking forward to it (https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HospitableArcticBlackbird-max-1mb.gif)
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 03, 2019, 08:38:37 PM
Listened to Morbid Angel’s Blessed Are The Sick while doing cardio at the gym at Esch’s request.

The first death metal album I’ve ever fallen in love with.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 03, 2019, 09:55:15 PM
Also started to listen to Savatage at the behest of Agrajag.m

They kick ass. :rock
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 04, 2019, 12:07:06 AM
Anyone know where to find original copies of Iron Maiden CDs and vinyl? The remasters don’t sound as good.

Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on July 04, 2019, 02:28:34 AM
Discog would be the best bet for originals.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on July 04, 2019, 02:31:12 AM
Also, just in case you haven't come across it yet, Angry Metal Guy is probably the only metal blog/site that I can stand reading.

https://www.angrymetalguy.com/

Their reviews are great and the community is pretty good too. Certainly much better than the toxic shit you find elsewhere.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 04, 2019, 03:00:37 AM
Do they cover a diverse selection of metal?

Good doom ass doom shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9wxfx8JQaM
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 04, 2019, 03:27:47 AM
Some more doom/stoner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQAosHybZew


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYifvPwH2Z4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu3HoQiT__Q

Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on July 04, 2019, 04:25:29 AM
Do they cover a diverse selection of metal?
Yep. It's a great place to discover new music. The writing is consistently excellent too and the whole site has a professional tone that is absent from most enthusiast websites.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 04, 2019, 03:26:31 PM
Today’s listening:

Metal Massacre 14 and Morbid Angel’s discog starting from their debut Altars of Madness.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: D3RANG3D on July 04, 2019, 04:17:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=774GvRN2yKk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esAK9sKeArw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vioE1RP0JZ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3uvf0cn0jo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvDOhbyWeAA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY08DslSses&list=PLYkTmbQqQZ86-948vutiBbnJ_f0dBCxx7&index=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAQl0a-Xnig&list=PLD20C1EE95C76D52C&index=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeOlPQqJR-o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFEQNF-Lh-E&list=PL6_qhP3eWX5P_6Cemd-qVCwDjDbuRQDWN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktYn7OZCN4c&list=PL6ogdCG3tAWj6-1jnZ_bIOraPIhMx7Z7F

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agLAf5bHmAM&list=PLPPfvssj9akAKKw-dn4SnbnMl1J547EpA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYaAsiNHCRA

This is what I usually jam.

Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 04, 2019, 04:31:09 PM
Immortal Rites shits on Blessed Are The Sick and that album was great.

The amount of time signature changes and shake ups keeps you on your toes. The solos, guitar work, drum work, are incredible. Any time I tried to predict where the songs go it ends up surprising me.

Brutal fucking album.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: headwalk on July 04, 2019, 05:32:02 PM
superior axe swinging:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOWf8uqGf8A
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on July 04, 2019, 05:53:25 PM
Two days until I finally see Converge for the first time live  :aah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZIcTqYTjFY

Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: headwalk on July 04, 2019, 06:32:00 PM
first saw converge play a tiny club with modern life is war and william e whitmore. must've been about 14 years ago.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 04, 2019, 07:20:11 PM
Lamb of God  :crazy
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 04, 2019, 10:50:31 PM
I love metal but not metalheads. With few exceptions (the bore) all of the metalheads I’ve interacted with online have been utter assholes. I’ll be going to metal shows but I’ve decided I won’t bother interacting with anyone.

edit:

Death metal really clicked tonight. I was really mad/frustrated because of life and just decided to pop in Morbid Angel’s Covenant. I was really misanthropic and with song names like World of Shit, Vengeance Is Mine, Blood On My Hands I was able to vent my life issues into the music. I had very, very, VERY violent thoughts, that I cannot possibly repeat here. But after finishing the album I felt much better. I hope that sort of release is normal because otherwise I might be a psychopath? :kobeyuck

Death metal seems good for certain situations. Like when you’re stressed out and want an outlet to vent or when your exercising at the gym.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 05, 2019, 12:50:08 AM
Not listening to the lyrics. It’s impossible to make them out anyways.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on July 05, 2019, 03:21:02 AM
Covenant is my favourite Morbid Angel album. That opening salvo of Rapture and then Pain Divine is unbeatable and then they slow it down a notch to let you catch your breath. The way that album flows is something that elevates it to a whole that is greater than the individual parts.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 05, 2019, 04:27:09 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cvux77faZ4


Edit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3OPOYG6XIQ

This is about how far Death moves from their original sound by the final album.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1B3xp3UbMo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1En8nhifu7c
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 05, 2019, 04:15:16 PM
Can’t believe I listen to satanists now like it ain’t no thing. Or if they’re not satanist they have pagan esque content. I went in scared but truly conquered my fears. :rock
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on July 05, 2019, 06:14:05 PM
It's all so OTT and theatrical that is easy to ignore for most people. I mean, most of them are just doing it for the shock value and the ones who are serious are so...earnest, that it really just comes across as pathetic anyway.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 05, 2019, 09:30:09 PM
Had to leave the show after like one song. It was my first metal show and it was far too loud. I’m positive my hearing will be fucked by this. Apparently via google it’s suggested to wear ear plugs town shows which no one bothered to mention which is disappointing. The show was also free. I’m pretty sure I fucked my hearing free of cost. What a miserable experience.o

Edit: ended up going back. The fuckers hid the earplugs at the window. Mother fuckers. Note: they had us skip the window.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 06, 2019, 02:41:58 AM
I might be a basic ass mcBasic bitch here but I still Iron Maiden is the best band. This is amazes me considering their popularity. Usually what's popular is usually not as good. Not quite shit, but not as good. But their musicianship, song writing just appeal to me more than other bands. Seventh Son of a Seventh Son was incredible. This might be one of the best runs in music I've seen. They ran the entire fucking decade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr2N6SluA64
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on July 06, 2019, 03:31:07 AM
Metal fans have always rewarded quality over hype. Hyped bands have always had exceedingly short runs. I guess people don't get into metal because it's fashionable.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 06, 2019, 04:45:54 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw4YtVAzBns

Have a nice song about earth pollution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beuNkghEPRc

An actual Pagan song, sung in Dutch. (loved folk metal when I was younger.)
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: headwalk on July 06, 2019, 08:39:19 AM
ghost got pretty big. they're alright in a synth goth pop metal way.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: skullstorm on July 06, 2019, 11:33:24 AM
Had to leave the show after like one song. It was my first metal show and it was far too loud. I’m positive my hearing will be fucked by this. Apparently via google it’s suggested to wear ear plugs town shows which no one bothered to mention which is disappointing. The show was also free. I’m pretty sure I fucked my hearing free of cost. What a miserable experience.o

Edit: ended up going back. The fuckers hid the earplugs at the window. Mother fuckers. Note: they had us skip the window.

I find it incredible you didn't realize metal of all genres would be loud live :lol

But then again I bring earplugs to every single gig I go to, regardless of genre (well maybe not some acoustic folk shit). I don't want that tinnitus, sometimes my ears ring a bit and I'd go nuts if it was nonstop. Shouldn't have been edgy as a teen and go to some gigs without plugs just because I didn't want to look lame  ::)
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 06, 2019, 12:37:14 PM
I’ve been to plenty of live shows and none were that loud. It was a small, dinky room and the distinguished mentally-challenged fellows were playing at max. Made me never want to support an amateur band ever again.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 06, 2019, 05:06:31 PM
Metal fans have always rewarded quality over hype. Hyped bands have always had exceedingly short runs. I guess people don't get into metal because it's fashionable.

I love me some metalhead elitism and chest beating but no, not really. NuMetal was completely trash and I still run into metalheads who love them some System Of A Down, Korn, Disturbed and all that garbage. It's more like with time, good popular acts continue to stick out while the majority of what was popular but very flavor of the month phases out. Nobody listens to MC Hammer or Vanilla Ice unless it's some sort of joke while everybody holds a lot of respect and admiration for Wu-Tang Clan 25 years later, a group that sold considerably less but was still very popular then.

It's not exactly a genre specific thing, or even medium specific thing. Metal's last real mainstream success acts were what? Avenged Sevenfold and Five Finger Death Punch (obligatory :yuck to both)? With Rock as whole on some mainstream downturn for the past 7 or so years I'm not sure who would count as mainstream within metal as far as newer acts go so it's harder to gauge at the moment. But it really isn't as simple as "these certain fans reward quality more than others" cause it's never true whoever you're applying it to.

Lots of metalheads online have suggested the following bands to me:

Slipknot
Korn
Linkin Park
Marilyn Manson
Dragonforce
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: D3RANG3D on July 06, 2019, 05:26:38 PM
 :nope
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on July 06, 2019, 06:12:06 PM
Iowa is a good album, still listen to it every once in a while. Rest is a big yikes
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 07, 2019, 09:35:09 AM
Lots of metalheads online have suggested the following bands to me:

Slipknot
Korn
Linkin Park
Marilyn Manson
Dragonforce

Tell them to kill themselves.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 07, 2019, 10:44:56 AM
Lots of metalheads online have suggested the following bands to me:

Slipknot
Korn
Linkin Park
Marilyn Manson
Dragonforce

Tell them to kill themselves.

Also:

Nightwish
Dream Theater
Some others

I can’t judge too harshly because I liked SoaD when I was like 15 and Linkin Park helped me slowly accept I liked the sound of metal. I really hope they were teens.

Also as a teen I loved this song.

https://youtu.be/DWSlOCEzRGo

If they’re not teens I won’t judge them.

Teens have the worse taste in music.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on July 07, 2019, 11:08:21 AM
Converge show as decent. Behemoth was also pretty fun, despite not being very into the music.

The Armed however did probably the best show I've ever went to, which I thought would never be topped from a few Dillinger shows. The pure chaos was amazing, do yourself a favor and go if they ever come around your parts.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on July 08, 2019, 06:26:46 AM
For some the Behemoth show was more than just fun

https://consequenceofsound.net/2019/07/couple-oral-sex-behemoth-concert/ saw this the other day. what a weird time.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: pancakesandsex on July 08, 2019, 11:37:38 AM
Lots of metalheads online have suggested the following bands to me:

Slipknot
Korn
Linkin Park
Marilyn Manson
Dragonforce

Tell them to kill themselves.

Also:

Nightwish
Dream Theater
Some others

I can’t judge too harshly because I liked SoaD when I was like 15 and Linkin Park helped me slowly accept I liked the sound of metal. I really hope they were teens.

Also as a teen I loved this song.

https://youtu.be/DWSlOCEzRGo

If they’re not teens I won’t judge them.

Teens have the worse taste in music.


Hey, nightwish and dream theater are great.  Don't hate on them.  I tend to like prog / power metal with melodic vocals, and a european feel, but there's some canadian/american stuff in here too.  Devin Townsend is especially good if you're into more avante garde kinda stuff.

I'll toss out a few other recommendations:

Darkwater
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdBqO5iwNzQ

Nightingale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7-ujlwQTLs

Riverside
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlUpS-gopLs

Redemption
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUTxeBObySg

Devin Townsend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n7uvokARQ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdHJurX0yVA

Pagan's Mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jd0yNNSFOU

Circus Maximus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__rm908F9MI

Elvenking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkYz8R8sRPw

Kamelot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlY8CP72s2Q
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Brehvolution on July 08, 2019, 12:59:39 PM
Townsend stuff is hit or miss for me, but goddamn if this isn't a song to sing along with:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL9Aohgd79I
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 08, 2019, 01:25:01 PM

Hey, nightwish and dream theater are great.  Don't hate on them.  I tend to like prog / power metal with melodic vocals, and a european feel, but there's some canadian/american stuff in here too.  Devin Townsend is especially good if you're into more avante garde kinda stuff.

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I'll toss out a few other recommendations:

Darkwater
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdBqO5iwNzQ

Nightingale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7-ujlwQTLs

Riverside
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlUpS-gopLs

Redemption
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUTxeBObySg

Devin Townsend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n7uvokARQ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdHJurX0yVA

Pagan's Mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jd0yNNSFOU

Circus Maximus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__rm908F9MI

Elvenking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkYz8R8sRPw

Kamelot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlY8CP72s2Q
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I tried Dream Theater. I thought they were really bad. Nightwish with some female vocalist was the better of the two even if it felt like really basic metal.

Prog seemed the worst subgenre from my listenings.

A lot of prog metal felt WRONG. In a "this isn't metal" sense. Mind, I love prog rock. I would and could defend Pink Floyd, King Crimson, Queen to my death bed. But fucking prog metal barely felt like metal. Of the prog I heard, Opeth showed the most promise. I liked them.

I'll listen to your clips though.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 08, 2019, 01:51:14 PM
Like I'm listening to the first clip, the Townsen video for Genesis and it's just wankery to me. I can't think of what the song is trying to convey through emotion or if it's trying to convey emotion at all. There's too many pieces jumbled into one song with little to zero sense of progression. In order to progress to the next phase you must EARN it. Think Bohemian Rhapsody.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ9rUzIMcZQ

between the intro (Is this the real life, is this just fantasy?) -> transition piano and bass plays -> "mamaaaa, just killed a man" -> build up -> CRESCENDO with all the rest of the instruments come in -> dim -> second verse starts -> piano and bass come in alone again -> build up -> CRESCENDO

Bohemian Rhapsody washes over you like a wave. They've conveyed the songs feelings and meanings through their instrumentation. Most prog metal I've listened to puts as much into it as possible without classicly thinking about how to progress or earn its music. It feels pretentious and I have no idea what they're trying to express sonically.

For another sample of the the prog rock mentality and arguably better than Bohemian (the only reason I used Bohemian as an example here is because of its popularity).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S15zn-Vbwcg

I'll listen to the rest later and no disrespect but

(https://i.imgur.com/wQO71gs.gif)
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: pancakesandsex on July 08, 2019, 02:27:07 PM
Townsend is admittedly and acquired taste, his stuff is all over the place.  Those are the first 2 songs on his latest album, Empath.  He's definitely more of an..... album artist than a single song kinda artist if you get me?  That said, he's not for everyone.

Regarding nightwish,  I particularly love their new singer, floor jansen (formerly of after forever).  I've seen them live twice, for their endless forms and decades tours and would go again.  I definitely see an set of inspirational dots to connect from very....theatrical bands like queen (also a fan ftr) to stuff in the vein of nightwish, and to some extent townsend.

I think my favorite ones in the list of stuff I threw out there are Riverside, Circus Maximus, and Redemption.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 09, 2019, 04:51:58 PM
At this point in deep into thrash and loving it. Used to not like the drums but now I can’t help bang my head like a total animal with my hair whipping back and forth. :rejoice

Also Testament > Anthrax
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 09, 2019, 04:57:31 PM
Sepultara indeed :lawd
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on July 09, 2019, 06:01:13 PM
I do agree. But later Sepultura  :kobeyuck
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 09, 2019, 07:27:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsq-YBVDxgA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNpXcfg2OsE

:lol
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 09, 2019, 09:10:22 PM
I'll be honest. I don't blame Metallica for doing what they did with Black Album. Admittedly, I've always liked the album but listening to more thrash (besides Megadeth) I now the subgenres limitations. I said this to Wrath but once you're not mad and young anymore thrash can lose its appeal - a genre for mostly young, angry men. Switching subgenres just makes sense for creative longevity. Now, what happened AFTER Black Album I won't defend but I truly think Tallica gets undeserved ire thrown at them for their self-titled LP.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: pancakesandsex on July 09, 2019, 09:48:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfSAcSPcBPs
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 09, 2019, 10:56:13 PM
They lost the creative engine of the band anyway.

Cliff? Dave?
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 09, 2019, 11:19:06 PM
I was making my tea and thought,"maybe he's talking about alcohol." :dead
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 09, 2019, 11:27:05 PM
https://metalinjection.net/shocking-revelations/dave-mustaine-was-very-pissed-metallica-didnt-call-to-tell-him-cliff-burton-died

tbh when you read stories like this you can't blame dave for being pissed. reportedly, they woke him up, told him he was out of the band without warning or second chances, told him he had an hour to catch a bus (no flight), hauled his ass to bus stop, and fucked off. They had already hired Kirk. I mean, sure Dave has an ego, and I'm glad he made Megadeth in the end, but you Metallica definitely come off as massive assholes in many sides of this story.

I'm glad they've killed the beef but fuck.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 09, 2019, 11:41:17 PM
Kerry's also an asshole though.

Kirk is indeed a great guy.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: toku on July 09, 2019, 11:49:01 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/a9HjwaH.jpg)
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 09, 2019, 11:59:13 PM
FUCK OFF LARS!!!
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 10, 2019, 01:33:53 AM
Exodus and Annihilator fucking rock. I am REALLY loving Annihilator especially.

Real talk this band is incredible.

https://youtu.be/yfVowvsqYXg

I’m amazed this is a debut LP. Amazed.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 10, 2019, 01:43:05 AM
Sweet Jesus what a party.

This band is amazing.

https://youtu.be/v3avnid5Sa0
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 10, 2019, 04:14:00 AM
Went to bed listening to Pancake’s suggestions.

Shit is too good to not leave a thank you while trying to sleep.

But Pagan’s Mind is good shit, pancakes. Progressive power metal, huh? I love power metal so this an interest combo. Riffs are too good. Thanks! :obama
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: pancakesandsex on July 10, 2019, 09:38:59 AM
Went to bed listening to Pancake’s suggestions.

Shit is too good to not leave a thank you while trying to sleep.

But Pagan’s Mind is good shit, pancakes. Progressive power metal, huh? I love power metal so this an interest combo. Riffs are too good. Thanks! :obama

Glad you enjoyed.  The albums I pulled those songs from are all worth a listen.  To double down on pagan's mind, they did a halo spaceboy cover on god's equation that is a lot of fun.  Wasn't sure what you were gonna think of the rest when you bounced off townsend, but there's a variety in there.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Brehvolution on July 10, 2019, 10:48:59 AM
I do agree. But later Sepultura  :kobeyuck

Sub later Sepultura for some Soulfly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLD9S50JLUQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jybAWneoYA4

(https://i.imgur.com/EZk6kUX.gif)
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: toku on July 10, 2019, 11:01:29 AM
gojira got some joint, love to sirius

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwoS1EcTvKI
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 10, 2019, 11:21:20 AM
I tried Gojira. It was ok. Not my sound but I can give them another try.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 10, 2019, 12:46:24 PM
I tried Gojira. It was ok. Not my sound but I can give them another try.

Not going to go through the thread to see what you like, because its fucking slow, but what is your "sound" then?

They do aggressive well but that seems to be all they have.

I listened to their whale album and the songs blurred together. :idont They have very limited sound range. They lack when it comes to song writing. There doesn't seem to be anything there with beyond the surface.

Seems like a band you listen to now every now and then, but definitely not heavy on the rotation.

They're ok.

I was told or they were listed as death metal and I tried them. Turns out they're not really death metal? :thinking

As far the sound I like I've been listening to heavy metal in order starting with Sabbath. Currently in the 80's and exploring proto-thrash and thrash. I like traditional (which includes NWOBHM), thrash, speed, power, doom, non fascist/racist black, and some death.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 10, 2019, 01:22:06 PM
https://youtu.be/4gFgiIFVSNk

This album fucking knocks. It's like a horror film brought to life. Shit slaps me across my face and then kisses me right on the lips. Damn. Metal is a great genre for the concept album and then King Diamond goes and takes that potential and fucks it.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 10, 2019, 04:43:30 PM
Yeah so almost 10 years ago, The Beatles 2009 remastered albums came out. A lot of us who weren't introduced to the Beatles at a young age like BrandNew, Phoenix Dark and myself listened to them. Before that, I had listened only to the Beatles Number 1's cd and thought most of the music was dog shit pap with shit like Love Me Do and I Want To Hold Your Hand that still makes me purse my lips to this day. So I gave it a shot and fell in love with Revolver, Sgt Pepper's, White Album, and especially Abbey Road. This took me on a journey to explore more rock and I got familiar with all the bigger (and smaller) bands and their heroes (mostly American blues men). Before the Beatles the only rock I listened to was Jimi Hendrix and Muse. I was a complete neophyte and knew jack shit about the genre as a black kid who primarily listened to hip hop/soul/r&b/funk/jazz. You know, "black" genres. So eventually it got to heavy metal and people on this site suggested Metallica and Megadeth.

Metallica's Ride The Lightning was my favorite. I loved Kill Em All but couldn't get into Master of Puppets for some reason. Anyways, that was my proper introduction to metal, with Metallica.

On this heavy metal journey from Sabbath to current I've finally hit Metallica. Ten years later my ears and tastes are far more open and I've revisited all of the first five Metallica records. I'll go over them later but my appreciation and love has increased even more as time has gone on.

So yeah, for like ten years I had a pretty good base for hard rock/"classic" rock and basically was one of those Metallica/Megadeth only listeners for a decade.

I'll end this post with one of my all time favorite live show videos.

https://youtu.be/qdlQyNe_9tE

Kudos to the guy who suggested Metallica/Megadeth ten years ago.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 11, 2019, 12:53:18 PM
https://youtu.be/g3CVPWe5vao
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 11, 2019, 01:01:41 PM
Not technically metal, but this is one of my all time favorite albums.

https://youtu.be/HCu1hzqAyZk

Not metal either, but this song always manages to make me laugh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxaGx2t2VBM
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 12, 2019, 04:03:20 PM
Found a great mix of Justice For All with bass and :obama :gladbron :lawd :bow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-OArgBcBRk
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 12, 2019, 09:24:28 PM
Um. Is it normal to find other genres boring when you get into metal? Been trying to listening to Purple Rain, which I like a lot. Computer Blue is my favorite Prince song and I tried listening to it and it bores me. :( Then I popped in Annihilator and felt a wave adrenaline and banged my head. I hope I can go back to listening to my other faves. I’m not trying to come off as elitist here. It actually makes me sad. What’s weird is I can listen to thinks like funk, classical, flamenco, jazz - genres with lots of texture, and still jam to them. I listened to the original Van Halen cd and said multiple times,”holy shit, I’m bored.” What’s happening?? :brazilcry :stop
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 12, 2019, 09:44:02 PM
Hard rock I’m still fine with. I can still rock Jimi, Heart, Kiki Dee, Led Zep, Queen, Pink Floyd, et al.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 12, 2019, 09:53:33 PM
I popped in Van Halen and whew. I can still fuck with it. Maybe I just had an off day. But that Prince Origins cd. :holeup
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on July 14, 2019, 04:31:26 AM
https://youtu.be/3utyUuudA30

New single from one of my favourite bands of the last decade - Year of the Goat. If you like 70s-inspired occult rock bands, these guys are completely amazing. They are like a harder version of Ghost, without the baggage.

If this single takes your fancy, then definitely check out the last album The Unspeakable. So many great songs and the band can write a catchy chorus.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 15, 2019, 03:05:01 PM
https://youtu.be/GJDkcT2U064
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: TVC15 on July 15, 2019, 08:40:46 PM
I was listening to this album out of curiosity because I remembered it existed. I remember when this came out!

https://youtu.be/sl7rkIc9b24
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2019, 11:37:55 PM
https://youtu.be/Q8gi_yLF8r8

"THIS IS ABOUT SHOOTING BLOOD FROM MY COCK." :dead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72BkII5Z9Cg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEoR9CioWlg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QwwA9P16TE

https://youtu.be/eh6CkkCLNUc

I'm on officially on death metal and I'm starting to like it.

:rock

Listened to the German thrash big four and other notable thrash bands. I'm diving time between death and power now. Polar opposites. :aaah

Also doom metal gets boring after a while. Too many rip off Black Sabbath wholesale.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: skullstorm on July 18, 2019, 05:44:03 PM
"THIS IS ABOUT SHOOTING BLOOD FROM MY COCK." :dead

"This next song goes out to all the fucking women out there.. FUUUUUUCCKKED WITH A KNIFFFE"

Anyone else ever listen to the live album so that you only play the first few seconds of the songs where he growls the song's name but skip the actual music? Quite entertaining and often quoted (and imitated, ofc) in my household  :-[
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 18, 2019, 06:11:29 PM
Was listening to Ziggy Stardust for the 999th time and was struck how visual it was and how it's obvious this influenced a lot of heavy metal lyricism.

Googled and found this <3

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/rnwk9x/bowie-metal-aesthetic

David <3
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 18, 2019, 07:42:56 PM
Cyndi... You should give some of the euro death metal a try :Leon

Asphyx-The Rack
Dismember-Like An Everflowing Stream
Emtombed-Left Hand Path
Amorphis - The Karelian Isthnus

Holy fuck I’m loving this. Euro death > US death?
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 19, 2019, 05:13:41 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgdPALxQk74

Boris is so fucking good.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9bzmbnA7vk
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 19, 2019, 03:35:30 PM
A lot of those picks I’ve already listened a bit to, Esch. Loving it.

Going to give Behemoth the real test today. Their live shows seem so amazingly macabre and artistic. Love it.

Also still diving deep into King Diamond even if it’s not death metal (?)

The riffs Suffocation has are :delicious 
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 19, 2019, 03:51:02 PM
One “problem” with death metal is that songs feel like they bleed from track to track. The music is so brutal and atmospheric I feel like they could use more transition between tracks to set each song up. The way it works in Abigail or stuff like the intro to Number of the Beast.

I think I’ll be enjoying melodic death metal a *lot* if given a proper chance for this reason.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 19, 2019, 04:09:07 PM
https://youtu.be/8dFQ5OxV72M

:bow

I listened to them almost two months ago and just. didn’t. get. it. Now my ears have been opened! :rejoice

The build up :lawd

That atmospheric horror :lawd

A lot of death metal bands go 100 all the time, and while there’s a place for that, I also want highly cinematic horror fests.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: pancakesandsex on July 19, 2019, 04:18:09 PM
What about a space opera:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as-m4oLrFd0


So omnicient, that if there were two omniciences, he would be both.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 19, 2019, 05:42:10 PM
Amon Amarth :rock
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2019, 03:53:03 PM
I just don't fucking get how I didn't like death metal at all almost two months ago but am loving it to pieces now. I'm liking it more than black. Has the darkness with none of the nazism/edge.

Listening to thrash for like two weeks must have helped the process even further.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2019, 03:54:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S15zn-Vbwcg

Need more of this in metal. Going full bore into power metal after death metal.

Manilla Road have come the closest with the lyrics, but Dio has come the closest with the pure musical storytelling.

What about a space opera:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as-m4oLrFd0


So omnicient, that if there were two omniciences, he would be both.

I love rock opera. I'll give this a whirl. Metal opera sounds :delicious
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Trent Dole on July 20, 2019, 04:29:26 PM
Lots of metalheads online have suggested the following bands to me:

Slipknot
Korn
Linkin Park
Marilyn Manson
Dragonforce

Tell them to kill themselves.
LMAO, I'm going to generally agree with this sentiment and I had a few Korn albums when they were a thing. Hey they hit when I was a bitter teenager and they made some weird cool noises with their geetars. I'll still go to bat for Manson's first LP Portrait of an American Family. That warped psychedelia. :rock Linkin Park is shitty american Pop Will Eat Itself, fuck them.I think the general belief is that Slipknot is Mushroomhead for dummies but they may have some tunes, never looked into them. For Dragonforce, uhhh, check out this band called Rhapsody that bust out a full medieval orchestra if you want your dnd brutality? This has been me going on about a genre I generally consider myself to barely know anything about even though Brutal Legend had several of my favorite projects on its ost. :lol
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on July 20, 2019, 05:42:29 PM
With all the hyperbole and bullshit aside, I still maintain that Slipknot and Mudvayne are both legitimately great metal bands that got unfairly tarred with the nu-metal tag.

Yes, they have some shit in their catalogues, but both have put out some excellent metal.

Just because some record exec decided to shit out a million bands that tried to emulate Korn, doesn't mean that all the bands from that era were garbage.

It's like saying that Nirvana, Stone Temple Pilots and Pearl Jam are shit just because a bunch of shitty grunge was released at the same time.

Slipknot's Iowa album is basically death metal and Mudvayne have more in common with Tool than nu-metal.

Fight me...
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2019, 05:57:40 PM
I won't fight you because I've never listened to them, just been turned off by their aesthetic.

But if there's one thing heavy metal - and by extension, a lot of this year - has taught me, it's to try not to judge things based on a perceived conception. I thought heavy metal maybe wasn't for me besides stuff like Metallica and Megadeth (my first metal bands) until I decided to dig deep into what it had to offer. Combined with a few other things happening this year like my love games for returning by giving things an open-mind, and I have literally no reason to not listen  to these ill famed metal bands and subgenres. I have to see if they're for me before making a decision first.

I youtube'd this and it's not a bad song but nothing really catches my eye/ear either.

https://youtu.be/D1jQKpse7Yw
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on July 20, 2019, 07:00:57 PM
I've come to really dislike the rednecks in Slipknot, and their music for the last many years leaves a lot to be desired. But Iowa is just one of those albums for me. Seeing them when I was 11 or 12 the first time, no doubts helps my opinion of Iowa, the live show was actually fairly chaotic and fun, far from what it is today, and the music was still wild for someone like me. The nostalgia reasons for liking it is obvious. So maybe that is the reason for it, but damn I still really like it.

Anyway stop trying to impress on tindr ok?

(https://i.imgur.com/vE4pkU1.jpg)
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2019, 07:03:21 PM
did you fuck her?
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: pancakesandsex on July 20, 2019, 07:08:10 PM
did you fuck her?

"Your"

Probably not. :P
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2019, 07:12:18 PM
she still kept talking.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on July 20, 2019, 07:12:59 PM
m8 I am exclusive to grindr  :-[
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2019, 07:15:15 PM
oooo
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2019, 08:31:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZmpOt6r6ZE

Melodeath is proving to be an incredible subgenre.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on July 20, 2019, 10:43:27 PM
Early In Flames pretty much invented melodic death metal.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2019, 10:55:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtSTzXU0mTY

sweet jesus melodeath might be better than thrash
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on July 20, 2019, 10:58:52 PM
There is a point around the turn of the century where melodic death became a parody of itself.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 21, 2019, 12:45:13 AM
My thoughts on In Flames: they're ok. I'm listening to a song now with a fucking acoustic. I don't mind that in thrash or regular heavy metal but this doesn't sound like death metal taken to an melodic core. It sounds an entirely different metal genre. I'm not the biggest fan. They sound more prog than death metal. I'm with Esch.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 21, 2019, 12:50:31 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vosg2TeInAA

What is this fucking garbage?

(https://i.imgur.com/piGMDmW.gif)
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 21, 2019, 04:52:31 AM
Folk music.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on July 21, 2019, 07:15:34 AM
https://youtu.be/UJ2pT6mBrTM

Try the Subterranean EP and then move on to The Jester Race. If you don't like that album, then just give up on metal.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on July 21, 2019, 07:28:19 AM
Raunchy is like In Flames but good


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg4n8qyFJsA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0yclrkdhbY
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 21, 2019, 11:21:23 AM
Hey Cindi, if you want something to get out pent up aggression one of Nails' albums might be a good choice. They're like 20 minutes a piece anyways. Consider it therapy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IqO6NZvBSw
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on July 22, 2019, 07:33:33 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/Rt8C5MB.jpg)
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 22, 2019, 06:26:02 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P4GsF1zdzM
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on July 22, 2019, 06:41:58 PM
👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀 good shit go౦ԁ sHit👌 thats ✔ some good👌👌shit right👌👌there👌👌👌 right✔there ✔✔if i do ƽaү so my self 💯 i say so 💯 thats what im talking about right there right there (chorus: ʳᶦᵍʰᵗ ᵗʰᵉʳᵉ) mMMMMᎷМ💯 ��👌 👌НO0ОଠOOOOOОଠଠOoooᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒ👌 👌👌 👌 💯 👌 👀 👀 👀 👌👌Good shit
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on July 22, 2019, 06:42:48 PM
Anyway Nails are gay
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 22, 2019, 06:59:36 PM
Hey Cindi, if you want something to get out pent up aggression one of Nails' albums might be a good choice. They're like 20 minutes a piece anyways. Consider it therapy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IqO6NZvBSw

Brutal shit.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: headwalk on July 22, 2019, 07:07:42 PM
if we're going in that direction i'm just going to dig out all my old b9er posts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKwa_x_uIuo
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 22, 2019, 10:22:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8i_QhOgsKw
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 24, 2019, 02:50:07 PM
Holy shit. Today I have an insurmountable amount of rage.

Today is a death metal day.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Brehvolution on July 25, 2019, 12:03:04 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_m_ZuNvs5A

It all makes sense, we're capable of beauty :noah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzIVUxDskzg

so good
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 25, 2019, 12:08:05 AM
Rage gone. Thanks Entombed.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on July 25, 2019, 02:41:00 AM
Rage gone. Thanks Entombed.
I'm interested to hear your thoughts about early death metal entombed vs pre-breakup death n' roll entombed?
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 25, 2019, 11:47:04 PM
Rage gone. Thanks Entombed.
I'm interested to hear your thoughts about early death metal entombed vs pre-breakup death n' roll entombed?

Well so far I don’t think Clandestine is anywhere near Left Hand Path.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 26, 2019, 12:45:54 AM
Wolverine Blues, bbyyyyy yaaaas. :lawd

Fuck me up fam. Tonight's workout was pumped to say the least. I listened to the album twice in a row on fucking accident.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on July 26, 2019, 02:15:40 AM
Wolverine Blues is  :woooo


To Ride... is  :delicious


I like Clandestine and Left Hand Path too, but the death n' roll stuff was amazingly influential and changed the genre for the better.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 26, 2019, 02:32:58 AM
Death metal is starting to be a top tier metal genre the more I listen. :delicious

Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 26, 2019, 09:24:34 PM
:rejoice Butchered at Birth

The album cover is iconic :rejoice
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on July 26, 2019, 10:15:03 PM
:rejoice Butchered at Birth

The album cover is iconic :rejoice
Tomb of the Mutilated for me.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 26, 2019, 11:23:18 PM
Iron Maiden still the band I go to at least once a week. Easily my favorite metal band. :)

:rejoice Butchered at Birth

The album cover is iconic :rejoice
Tomb of the Mutilated for me.

That one is great too.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 27, 2019, 05:14:58 PM
Be’Lakor is GODLIKE.

Death metal is definitely a top tier metal genre. Now that its clicked I’m glad I have a lot of death to choose from.

Funnily, doom Metal has gone down a few notches. 
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 28, 2019, 04:58:17 AM
I remember when this was the cool band to listen to in the metal circles I hung around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUcFAA1dKPY
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on July 28, 2019, 12:23:25 PM
*Butthead laugh*

Huh huh. Anal.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Propagandhim on July 28, 2019, 02:00:06 PM
Does anyone else hate the new Baroness?  Because I hate the new Baroness.  What the hell happened to this band?
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on July 28, 2019, 02:24:05 PM
Baroness even at their peak was just ok.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Propagandhim on July 28, 2019, 02:53:15 PM
Red and Blue are amazing records
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 01, 2019, 12:31:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFRirdsEDHo
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Brehvolution on August 02, 2019, 09:49:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ7XLcagmmU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09dFfqdVDi0
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Brehvolution on August 02, 2019, 09:53:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM9PUegDRz8
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on August 02, 2019, 10:09:37 AM
some will say they are just punk, but ventures enough into metal imo. It's absurdity at its best, already excited for when they tour again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFd3hlRcKME

https://youtu.be/Rx8s0TDaAYo

the space that is almost always created in front of the scene, in fear of their vocalist  :lol
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on August 03, 2019, 10:42:25 PM
Tool :snore

How can you take a song called Prison Sex and make it boring?
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: toku on August 04, 2019, 12:53:40 AM
I don't like Blind Guardian but I can respect it, I think Iced Earth fucking sucks save one song (Melancholy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjZxiHWPrZ4), surprise), just not a power metal guy I suppose but my god if the second Demons & Wizards album doesn't hit a very specific itch for me that I just can't explain. I come back to it every few years and it hits the spot every time. Right amount of cheese that I encountered at the right time I guess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvwhL-kE6es
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtHaFJVr-Rw

(https://i.imgur.com/VOUI8v6.gif)

spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMOXaSOBPR4

 :noah
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Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on August 04, 2019, 05:58:12 AM
Tool :snore

How can you take a song called Prison Sex and make it boring?
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but this is one bad opinion.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on August 04, 2019, 12:52:37 PM
Is Tool considered heavy metal? Because if so :sabu
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on August 04, 2019, 12:56:39 PM
It’s also hilarious how every tool can reacts like Potato. Like they’re super defensive even if you say you’re going to give them an earnest shot. Are Tool fans the Shenmue fans of rock? :dead
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on August 04, 2019, 01:15:13 PM
Is Tool considered heavy metal? Because if so :sabu


well not really, but the majority of music posted in here isnt heavy metal. I would say prog rock/ prog metal


Tool are pretty decent. Not a huge fan, but seeing them live was fucking amazing. Even on the big stage at a festival they had insane sound.

The bass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2F_hGwD26g

 :lawd
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on August 04, 2019, 03:21:39 PM

well not really, but the majority of music posted in here isnt heavy metal. I would say prog rock/ prog metal


:dead :sabu

Joking?

And yes, they're labeled metal by apple music.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on August 04, 2019, 03:54:42 PM

well not really, but the majority of music posted in here isnt heavy metal. I would say prog rock/ prog metal


Joking?


About what? The genres? Most of the stuff posted in here is pretty far from the heavy metal genre, such as iron maiden or black sabbath.

You could make an argument for all metal genres coming from heavy metal, but we dont count all rock music under the genre of blues either.


Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on August 04, 2019, 04:49:33 PM

About what? The genres? Most of the stuff posted in here is pretty far from the heavy metal genre, such as iron maiden or black sabbath.

:rofl
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on August 04, 2019, 05:01:48 PM
I honestly don't understand :yeshrug
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Rufus on August 04, 2019, 05:04:21 PM
She thinks you excluded Maiden and Sabbath from Heavy Metal, cause bad wording. I assume you didn't mean to.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on August 04, 2019, 05:05:36 PM
Oh yeah. I meant most stuff in here isnt heavy metal, excluding the few times black sabbath and iron maiden has been posted.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2019, 01:05:19 AM
Tool’s later albums are much better than their debut. I really like Lateralus and their latest single is pretty good. Might buy the album on release.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on August 09, 2019, 05:57:06 AM
Tool’s later albums are much better than their debut. I really like Lateralus and their latest single is pretty good. Might buy the album on release.
I demand an apology!!!!!!!!!!!


spoiler (click to show/hide)
Not really. Glad you like them.
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Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2019, 07:16:05 AM
Their debut album was :snore

Sorry.

Given how much people use its cover as an avatar online and how coveted the band is I expected better. My bad.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on August 09, 2019, 09:44:02 PM
Their debut album was :snore

Sorry.

Given how much people use its cover as an avatar online and how coveted the band is I expected better. My bad.
Secretly, I agree with you and think Aenima is their first great album.

But don't tell the Tool fans that, those guys are crazy...
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2019, 10:53:41 PM
10,000 days was disappointing. Looking forward to the new LP but these guys need to start playing music in another key.

Back to sweet elixir of melodic death metal.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on August 19, 2019, 03:43:39 AM
Death metal becoming one of my favorite genres.

https://youtu.be/055RnT2yrc0
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on August 19, 2019, 08:21:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOkE38kWAIw
Thought you would like this song.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on August 19, 2019, 08:23:07 AM
Cindi, have you discovered Samael yet?

 https://youtu.be/RPzkYhKAjB8
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: EchoRin on August 25, 2019, 04:26:46 PM
https://youtu.be/o9EmbVqjpb8

https://youtu.be/fWPFd3Xwsrw
P.S. New Darkthrone record Old Star is great. 38 solid minutes that go by like it's nothing.

https://youtu.be/99F3JzNc1U8
The lead singer here has had his controversies that have a little bit more gravitas than "I'm going for shock value tee hee". Lots of strange borderline if not blatant edgelord neo-nazi shit. Then there was the child pornography charge a decade ago. It was dropped and I don't know the details about what exactly it could have been, but it leaves you feeling  :-\ . Dude also comes off like a tool in interviews. Nonetheless, very strong track. Seen them live a few times and they rip.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Snoopycat_ on August 26, 2019, 08:01:27 PM
I listened to that Norwegian black metal to see what it was all about. Turned out it was just some divs in make up screaming about Harry Potter.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on August 27, 2019, 01:34:17 AM
I listened to that Norwegian black metal to see what it was all about. Turned out it was just some divs in make up screaming about Harry Potter.
More likely screaming about Voldemort and shit, but you're pretty much spot on.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: EchoRin on August 27, 2019, 02:01:23 AM
Burp. BUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRP
https://youtu.be/LcnxlD7eNgQ

Oh. This band man. Agalloch had it all at one point. The very last album was pretty meh, but some incredible LPs and EPs before the leading man wanted to make the band a full time thing and the rest of the band was like "yo, we didn't get into this for the money." So lead guy goes off to form his own band. One day posts antisemitic things online that make him look like a 4chan kook  :brain. His old bandmates call him out and then his current ones are like "ehh... are you a dipshit? Don't answer that. We're out. Do what you'd like with the music we recorded for a second album already." That music was never released, band folds. Mr. Dumbass just tossed away two bands within like 4 years and also comes out looking like a hateful little high schooler.
Got to see Agalloch 3 times. They were awesome. The other three guys always seemed super cool, while Mr. Anti-semite always took himself really seriously (maybe suffering from Napoleon complex?). I feel bad for the other guys. The lead guitarist either still teaches or taught at some college. Part of the reason the band was not meant to be a full time thing. 
https://youtu.be/VWIJTOvb0II

EDIT:
I went back into the thread to  the point where it changed into the "heavy metal" thread. I don't think I saw any Godflesh. I did see Jesu which is *muah* :bow , but no Godflesh. Cindi they even fuck around with hip hop beats in the mid 90s. And not in lame ass Limp Bizkit nu-metal way. And not in a dumbass appropriation-like manner either. Cause Justin Broadrick is a beautiful musical mind and not a bigot little shit like some people from the bands I've posted.
https://youtu.be/2UQ1mKs9r0E
 :checkit
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Snoopycat_ on August 27, 2019, 07:55:13 PM
I saw Godflesh supporting Napalm Death in a wee club called The Venue. There was only me and my mates, the bar woman and a bouncer. So about 5 of us. To give them their due both bands played their sets, although it was kind of embarrassing. We tried to encourage them but you could tell they were a bit dejected really. Playing to 3 customers and only 1 of them had actually heard any of their stuff. That's got to bruise the ego. Still, we had a drink with them after and had a good laugh about it so it wasn't that bad.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on August 31, 2019, 10:16:36 AM
cindi doxxed

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/161059358367678464/617317051656044554/Screenshot_20190831_114934_com.facebook.katana.jpg)
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on August 31, 2019, 10:18:17 AM
I like tool tho
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on August 31, 2019, 10:18:48 AM
Lots to update and catch up on I see!
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on August 31, 2019, 01:09:10 PM
Seen these guys a few times the last few years, last weekend again at a tiny festival. Really like them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3E2L7qwSQE
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on September 08, 2019, 06:14:04 PM
Samael rocks
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on September 10, 2019, 12:05:46 AM
Listened to Baby Metal for the first time and lmao fuck the haters. That’s fun ass metal.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on September 13, 2019, 02:36:06 PM
Japanese heavy metal is utterly beautiful.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on September 13, 2019, 02:53:06 PM
 :piss baby metal :piss2
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Rufus on September 13, 2019, 03:10:25 PM
Japanese heavy metal is utterly beautiful.
'

ya need to listen to Boris.
And Sigh.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on September 13, 2019, 03:11:53 PM
:piss baby metal :piss2

DIE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIKqgE4BwAY
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on September 20, 2019, 04:45:24 AM
Man, for some reason after months of death and thrash metal some trad metal acts like Iron Maiden feel cheesy now :tocry

Still love me tho
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on September 20, 2019, 07:23:57 AM
Man, for some reason after months of death and thrash metal some trad metal acts like Iron Maiden feel cheesy now :tocry

Still love me tho

It goes in cycles, but there's something you can guarantee, you'll always come back to maiden
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Brehvolution on September 20, 2019, 09:06:38 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbknq6azohw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRp3RfmRuZs
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: EchoRin on September 20, 2019, 09:42:40 AM
Yeah but can Cindi handle fat Chino?
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on September 20, 2019, 04:23:44 PM
deftones is nu metal, for people thinking they are too sophisticated for fred durst
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on September 21, 2019, 12:03:23 AM
Man, for some reason after months of death and thrash metal some trad metal acts like Iron Maiden feel cheesy now :tocry

Still love me tho

It goes in cycles, but there's something you can guarantee, you'll always come back to maiden

Iron Maiden show on Sunday. :D
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Transhuman on September 21, 2019, 12:29:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3b6SGoN6dA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeMvMNpvB5M
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on September 21, 2019, 10:09:25 AM
I thought this was the metal thread. Love Heart but...

https://youtu.be/Wh3t49NsWBA
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on September 22, 2019, 07:04:29 PM
Going to a metal concert and being black is one of the most isolating feelings I’ve had in years.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on September 22, 2019, 09:28:50 PM
Damn. I snoozed during the opening act to Maiden, The Raven Age.

:snore

https://youtu.be/VjXjpg4zj6U

Apparently metalcore. I haven’t been impressed with any core at all and this continues the tradition.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: EchoRin on September 22, 2019, 09:37:44 PM
I don't know where you live (and I'm not gonna prod you about that), but if one of the cities is close by, you should go check out this show.

Amon Amarth, Arch Enemy, At the Gates all on one bill. It's $40 in my town. Maybe the line up will be different wherever you are at, but you can look in the tour section.

https://www.metalblade.com/amonamarth/
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on September 22, 2019, 09:38:55 PM
Holy fuck have to see that
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on September 22, 2019, 10:37:56 PM
Going to a metal concert and being black is one of the most isolating feelings I’ve had in years.
Metal is the music of the outsider. Nothing more metal than being an outsider at an outsiders' concert! \m/ >_< \m/
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on September 23, 2019, 12:09:09 AM
Omg Maiden snsnsjaJjsjsk!!!
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on September 28, 2019, 02:00:12 AM
Listened to Dragon Force for the first time in month. I like them. Don't like the singer, but the fast tempo is totally my thing now.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: EchoRin on September 28, 2019, 02:06:26 AM
Hmm, not really my thing, Dragonforce.

You might like this band though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cacophony_(band)

Crazy "behind the music" story too.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on September 28, 2019, 01:05:26 PM
Morbid Angel guitarist Richard Brunelle died :(
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on September 29, 2019, 01:30:55 PM
Huh? Did Dragonforce replace their singer in between the first and second album? The singer sucks on the first album but is great from there.

Inhuman Rampage is a great album.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on September 29, 2019, 01:39:06 PM
They didnt replace him until much later. I dont know much about dragonforce as I find them incredible boring, but I guess it could be the difference of working on a decent budget vs rushing an album out not having the time to record and mix it well?


Anyway, this is cool and good, talking about one of the best albums of all time

https://youtu.be/YNZQfdsbaq8
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on September 29, 2019, 03:03:43 PM
Inhuman Rampage is fantastic. The rest of their output, not so much.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on September 29, 2019, 03:11:16 PM
Yeah last night when I listened to it I ended up listening to Inhuman Rampage twice in a row. Great album.

Slowly catching up to modern metal. In October I want to spend a lot of time listening to modern metal and build up to metal that has come out this year as the "best of metal 2019" lists pop up.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on September 29, 2019, 03:48:05 PM
I'm waiting for you to get into mathcore  8)
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on September 29, 2019, 03:49:38 PM
Anything that has core in it is probably shit
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: EchoRin on September 29, 2019, 03:52:13 PM
What abouuuuuut... Hardcore?
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on September 29, 2019, 03:53:00 PM
Shit
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on September 29, 2019, 04:46:26 PM
Dumb biatch
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Rufus on September 29, 2019, 06:37:09 PM
Anything that has core in it is probably shit
But, Converge has *core in it...?
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on September 29, 2019, 07:20:47 PM
I tried converge the other night. Didn’t get it
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Brehvolution on September 30, 2019, 02:18:17 PM
Did you forget about crabcore?  :hmph
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: D3RANG3D on September 30, 2019, 02:40:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOOebk_dKFo

What about the Black Metal crab walk @ about 44 sec

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I like Grindcore and some Metalcore, despite Metalcore being trash. :trumps
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Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on September 30, 2019, 02:44:11 PM
Anything that has core in it is probably shit

There is some good hardcore. Other than that, you are 100 percent factual and correct. Mathcore is :trash

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p4tQUBtsBw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCmQN6nZz14



wrong.  :brain
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on September 30, 2019, 05:24:20 PM
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/wtf/things_are_getting_complicated_there_is_now_a_third_version_of_batushka.html

 (https://i.imgur.com/OTMG71Y.jpg)
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: EchoRin on October 08, 2019, 01:03:32 AM
Hey Cindi!

I saw the Amon Amarth gig tonight.

At the Gates I saw before at some festival around the time they reunited. So this was my second time seeing them. Arch Enemy I never listened to. Didn't even before the show. All I knew was "hey a female vocalist" and "hey Jeff Loomis is in this band now? Kewl." Cool guitar wankery in this band. I'm convinced by them after this performance.

Amon Amarth killed it of course. Fun ass stage props too, which is expected from them. I can't remember if this was my 2nd or third time seeing them. Because like At the Gates I saw AA at a metal festival. It's just hazy to me if I happened to catch them only once since I attended that festival 3 times in about a span of 4 years and sometimes there were bands I happened to catch multiple times. But that's neither here nor there.

The bill is worth going to.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: HardcoreRetro on October 17, 2019, 03:59:45 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVGcRNotCAE

Got some new cans. Time to listen to some of my favourites.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRcNJToCIl4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpVE2Jk8doE
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on October 17, 2019, 05:59:03 AM
This is one for the doom/death fans. Also for fans of bands with the stupidest names ever.

Got the vinyl delivered last week and it sounds amazing thorough a decent stereo system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9L89njemmg

Probably the best band with the worst name I've ever heard.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on October 20, 2019, 02:16:50 AM
Saw Amon Amarth.

Arch Enemy had best set easily.

I thought Amon Amarth had the worst and the whole viking thing is kind of wack to me. Can't believe I saw At The Gates.

Great show though. Only complaint were the moshers. Moshers are fa.gs.

Love it for the death metal tho. TBH I gotta say I'm more about more real death metal than melodeath. I think regular death metal might be my favorite metal genre. It's basically rock taken to its absolute height. At some point my ears just opened up and heard more than incessant banging and I fell in love. Anyways, great show.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Rufus on October 20, 2019, 08:26:45 AM
Not unterstanding the language works best, I think. :lol That way you don't need have to buy into violent fantasies about medieval combat.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: skullstorm on October 20, 2019, 02:54:11 PM
Only complaint were the moshers. Moshers are fa.gs.

Amen. I'm getting older, I'm not huge, I wear glasses and have a bad neck, fuck those shits that have to assault people not even in the mosh pit, crowd killers or whatever they're called. And I'm never at the edge of the pit, the closest I'll get is so that there are a few people standing in front or behind me as a barrier but sometimes even that isn't enough distance from the fucks. Also fuck those guys who decide to start their own one man mosh pit in the middle of reasonable people. Hardcore gigs in small venues are the shittiest though, try seeing the band somehow when the tiny floor is all taken over by three jackoffs doing the fucking windmill and purposely trying to punch everyone not in the pit in the face.

Also a big nope: farters in crowds. Like do you have to pass the rankest gas when it's so packed that the poor defenseless people behind you can't run away? Or I get away but the farter also moves so no one knows it was they who farted and then they end up next to me again and continue farting.

Also people so drunk they start touching you, get violent or vomit on you etc. At least the only time I got vomited on the band was playing their last song already. The scrawny teenager responsible ran like hell before I could even yell at him  >:(

Anyway I went to a small scale metal festival last weekend (the day I went there played Eyehategod, Cirith Ungol, Bölzer, Celeste and some local metal bands and some more artsy shit too) and I got to experience the crowd killers, a drunk guy apparently deciding I was his best friend and of course the rank farter. All in all a successful live event then. Bands were okay too.

Slightly related
https://youtu.be/s65klR4UPy8
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Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on October 20, 2019, 04:03:49 PM
I must admit I do like the moshing to some extend, although being sick and fat, I dont do it as much anymore. If it fits the show at least. When it does, the band usually participates in it as well though, where you have to worry just as much about flying objects/people from stage, as from the crowd. If you go to such a show and stand up front, dont complain about getting a guitar or a guy crowdsurfing or such in the face, there is usually a pretty clear safe area away from that. Obviously people moshing into others who are clearly not into it, are kind of dicks.

Farting however is just horrible. but i also do it, if it's in the middle of a show. but mine smell good. 8)
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: skullstorm on October 20, 2019, 05:32:55 PM
Farting however is just horrible. but i also do it, if it's in the middle of a show. but mine smell good. 8)

How curious, so do mine.  But that's why I don't let just anyone smell them  :snob

And yeah I do usually have an idea what type of live band a band I'm going to see is and what kind of crowd behaviour to expect so I've never been actually injured or anything, I know not to go stand around like a dork in the sparsely populated area behind the front rows waiting for the show to start lol.

The problem of getting collateral damage from a mosh pit with crowd killing assholes in it usually comes in a small or narrow venue where you can't easily escape to the sides of the room since those aren't safe either if the pit gets out of hand. And it sucks if you're not there early enough to get to the front so then you paid good money to "watch" the gig from the very back from behind a raging pit and a bunch of ridiculously tall dudes who have no problem seeing everything from no matter how far  ::) And if you do get to the front the sound is often way too loud there and the music doesn't sound good. The pit always takes up the best space in the venue.

There should be elevated sections at all venues for the chill shorter people, not just for the handicapped. All problems solved! Except the farters  :doge
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on October 21, 2019, 01:09:22 AM
I think I'd prefer the smell of farts over some of the body odour I've smelled at metal gigs.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: EchoRin on October 21, 2019, 01:16:38 AM
Farting however is just horrible. but i also do it, if it's in the middle of a show. but mine smell good. 8)
There should be elevated sections at all venues for the chill shorter people, not just for the handicapped. All problems solved! Except the farters  :doge
Im all for raising stages up and slanting the floor from the front to the back. So many tall people at metal gigs.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Ghoul on October 22, 2019, 08:16:36 AM
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RSkd5xLdo4"

Listening to this today. These guys mix like 80's campy guitar solos with some screamo. Damn good stuff.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: EchoRin on October 25, 2019, 02:05:02 AM
https://youtu.be/v-9JFt2Q3E8

Tasty riffcigarilloe. Which is more or less an Immortal staple.

Edit: lolwat

Word is supposed to be riff a g e
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: skullstorm on October 25, 2019, 01:49:18 PM
Word is supposed to be riff a g e

 :dead
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on October 26, 2019, 06:27:41 PM
Hard to call their newer stuff metal, but they have done grindcore and mathcore through their earlier years, so posting about them anyway... Daughters were fucking amazing today, close to concert of the year for me. Singer is crazy, after the first song he was already bleeding from his head after having banged the microphone into it several times. Then went on to vomit on stage and... then kiss a guy in the audience all over. Didnt expect that kind of intensity from their show, considering the amount of more mellow songs they play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=top2uDnAWY4
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: HardcoreRetro on October 29, 2019, 02:48:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2QeFd7M0mk
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: EchoRin on November 03, 2019, 01:15:47 AM
This is my go fuck yourself song. Forever

https://youtu.be/li91V6m_OR0
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: headwalk on November 03, 2019, 04:34:45 AM
winter nights drawing in means atmospheric bm time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ2aiKy7ZC4
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on November 06, 2019, 05:32:24 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/yCBIWsY.jpg)


Fuck. Yes.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Ghoul on November 07, 2019, 11:40:00 AM
That review on the top is peak old band touring shit. LMAO.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: EchoRin on November 07, 2019, 06:26:22 PM
https://youtu.be/tccZs_veliA
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on November 10, 2019, 11:58:15 PM
Got my Maiden tickets!!!!
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: toku on December 04, 2019, 06:16:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t65Li7hLDpI
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Brehvolution on December 05, 2019, 10:48:24 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_rop95wWfo
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Brehvolution on December 05, 2019, 10:50:28 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngJy7pAIfN0&list
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on December 12, 2019, 05:20:48 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQNIpeyKA7I&t=460s

esch, what do you think of Batushka? like, the music, not the mickey mouse drama
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: EchoRin on January 17, 2020, 07:46:35 PM
https://youtu.be/NiwqRSCWw2g

Scored tickets for Sepultura. They got a North America tour in a few months.

"But EchoRin, they suck now and have for the longest time."

Couldn't care less mate. 5 super solid records when the Cavalera bros were still together in the thick of things is all you need and hey the energy still comes through on the material that doesn't mean anything to me. I've seen them at a festival one time and the crowd goes absolutely insane.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: EchoRin on January 21, 2020, 01:41:24 AM
Taake - Nattestid ser porten vid, Part I

https://youtu.be/aubbzKm2uJM
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: EchoRin on January 28, 2020, 04:46:15 PM
I was looking at upcoming concerts and saw that Machine Head will be in town. I wasn't ever fully in on them when it came to studio albums, but was really impressed with their live show when I saw them at a festival maybe like 5 years ago. So I go to see what they have been up to and oh my god. It looks like they are back to being absolutely the worst thing in metal  :lol

https://youtu.be/dol9afjkDV0

That dueling guitar part is a highlight. The rest is a big miss. But more than anything, those lyrics. Robb. Please. Rarely do lyrics destroy a song. At worst I'm usually indifferent to them. It's mostly about delivery and emotion as well as just being another instrument. But this time the lyrics are so bad that... I wish I didn't understand English

Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on January 28, 2020, 05:40:29 PM
Can confirm. Machine Head still fucking terrible.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Rufus on January 28, 2020, 05:45:59 PM
Can confirm. Machine Head still fucking terrible.
:lol

American High (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM2Ure8eNhA) is a guilty pleasure of mine, but I genuinely like Davidian (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mWPPBW4DU8). The drums in that :preach
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on January 28, 2020, 05:58:48 PM
I've seen them live a few times, mainly when they supported bands I liked back in the day. I remember when they were supposed to open for Slayer and Slipknot, but cancelled due to having the flu. What a time.  :rejoice

Papa Roach were not so kind though.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on January 28, 2020, 08:57:06 PM
New My Dying Bride Album on the way and new single released.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ulpw6hm6Q5I


Fuck I love this band and this new song is brilliant.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: EchoRin on January 28, 2020, 08:57:08 PM
I mean when I saw them they left all the nu-metal bullcock in the past. I remember really liking the song Halo. When I came home I listened to it (album version) and it didn't quite hit me exactly the same. So I looked at Wikipedia today and it seems like things changed going back to their last album. The lead guitarist and drummer left soon after. The guitarist said he wasn't into the direction Robb was taking the band and that he wasn't into it for the last 3 years anymore. If this song is the culmination of what Robb was leading the band to then... yeahhhhh.

It's funny too, cause you can hear in some of their songs that there is capability within reach (like I would guess a good chunk of their post nu-metal phase stuff. But again I only listened to a few songs shortly after the concert and just happened to like the live show much more than the studio versions), but when the leading mastermind is Robb, the band lives and dies by his musical sense. And the more he leans into the nu-metal or alt-metal or metalcore slant, the results just ain't good.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on January 28, 2020, 09:01:48 PM
Also, didn't realise there was a new Pyogenesis album out too.

One of my all time favourite bands and I followed them from their death/doom days through to their weird elctro-pop-punk phase.

The last three albums since they reformed have been a fantastic blend of all of their eras into something completely fucking cool.

https://youtu.be/F_U7vrhoObc
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on January 30, 2020, 02:47:01 PM
Fuck yes, there's a new Katatonia album coming this year too.

https://youtu.be/zGvZhRFBQ_I
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: EchoRin on March 11, 2020, 01:37:39 AM
yesiree

https://youtu.be/QMEqcvQQ5s0
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on March 17, 2020, 06:15:31 PM
Picked up the new My Dying Bride album on vinyl.


(https://i.imgur.com/xoZQaXs.jpg)
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: EchoRin on March 17, 2020, 06:23:37 PM
You were looking forward to this I remember. Hope your ears have a good time with it  :)
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on March 17, 2020, 07:08:21 PM
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/IRzsRinQNCsPm/giphy.gif?cid=790b76113ac78ee90f5ea97209a66b05712ee8741338226f&rid=giphy.gif)

I really like it.

Turn Loose the Swans is my favourite album of all time. It's not as good as that, but it is probably the best thing they have put out for a while, maybe even since then.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on May 28, 2020, 08:28:18 PM
I almost don't want to post this because we are at 666 posts.

(https://i.imgur.com/UQo1X3f.png)

But this meme is so top tier it has to be posted.

(https://i.imgur.com/C8ZikY4.jpg)
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: EchoRin on June 23, 2020, 08:20:12 PM
https://youtu.be/9YrN-vLQnMs

Jesu has a way of tugging at my heart.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: EchoRin on July 24, 2020, 05:24:03 PM
uploaded on youtube

https://youtu.be/Mtqbwy-fgFc
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: EchoRin on August 04, 2020, 01:26:17 AM
https://youtu.be/9BmGe7ziK7k

This is from the upcoming album
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: DJ Bedroom on August 04, 2020, 01:27:27 AM
I like disturbed and five finger death punch can I come in

spoiler (click to show/hide)
real talk tho, that new enslaved stuff not hitting the way E did for me, but still looking forward to it
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Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: EchoRin on August 12, 2020, 01:29:02 AM
https://youtu.be/rdEupVsL07E

One, I love this song.
Two, the comments section has me rolling.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on August 12, 2020, 01:31:52 AM
Going to post all the metal ive been listening to lately tomorrow when I get the chance
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: EchoRin on September 16, 2020, 02:49:12 AM
Raaaaaaaaaawrrrrrrr


https://youtu.be/vfBmYfnjLho
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: EchoRin on November 02, 2020, 11:19:02 AM
So that new Anaal Nathrakh album, Endarkement. It's rather solid. Pretty impressive that the band hasn't had some major dud after all this time. The previous album was pretty skippable, but otherwise it's been a consistent discography more or less.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: EchoRin on November 15, 2020, 12:33:41 AM
... we are a blaze in the northern sky ahhhhhhh hahahahaha!!!

https://youtu.be/vJ96iVbA_No

But I bring it up because god damn.

Quote
1992 saw the release of Darkthrone’s “A Blaze in the Northern Sky”. Recorded in Kolbotn, it was their second full length effort, but their first within the genre of black metal. The album was extremely influential, and set the bar for a new wave of Norwegian bands that are idolized worldwide to this day. What were the origins of the black metal wave of the 1990’s come from, and why is the music still so popular?

A first edition print of “A Blaze in the Northern Sky" features in Enlightened, the National Library of Norway’s new permanent exhibition of highlights from Norwegian cultural history. In this event Ted Skjellum, also known as Nocturno Culto, is interviewed by journalist and writer Harald Fossberg.

 :clap :heartbeat :heart :bow :bow2
https://youtu.be/ycqaXrNnNfU
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: headwalk on November 15, 2020, 10:02:41 AM
let's get some ham cooking:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2PiXadQbGI
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Himu on November 17, 2020, 11:05:04 PM
https://nightofthepalemoon.bandcamp.com/album/eagle-quetzal-and-condor-np-xii?fbclid=IwAR2E7sg5MEbZN9yyRskfdYWxp808XQRkFAQj3rD3MPnEh5qkvo-EQtcrimo

Holy shit listen to this album
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on January 02, 2021, 08:41:52 PM
Some good metal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQbu1J0UjKE
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on January 02, 2021, 08:46:34 PM
Some more good metal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwG0J78ibMw
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: headwalk on March 04, 2021, 12:01:58 PM
atmospheric BM from the scottish highlands:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FmNGh-Gx_w
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on March 04, 2021, 02:13:58 PM
Saor is some good shit. Atmoblack usually bores me to tears, but those guys keep it interesting.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: HardcoreRetro on March 05, 2021, 06:35:38 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwzqKYfjv0o

Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on March 05, 2021, 07:27:56 AM
I remember seeing Paradise Lost in about 1996 when they toured here. They brought Cathedral out with them. Amazing show and a mate managed to get us backstage. They were all fucking great guys.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on March 09, 2021, 04:48:11 AM
Came across this on Angry Metal Guy today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9kgqstOKaI

Some good black metal, even though black metal isn't really my thing anymore.
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on April 01, 2021, 08:30:58 PM
https://youtu.be/CPom8u0t2hg
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: Potato on April 19, 2021, 04:58:54 AM
Not really sure what subgenre this falls under - New nu metal maybe? Either way it's pretty good. Nice to see a female band member on something other than vocals or bass for a change too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFuPQ159LRU
Title: Re: Heavy Metal
Post by: porkbun on April 19, 2021, 07:25:08 AM
The Fear Factory album that was recorded back in 2017 but has been held up due to lawsuits over the name, royalties, etc. will be finally released in June and the first song is up on YouTube.  Dino is saying that this will be the last album with Burt as the singer, but who knows given the history of the band.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eqIEfPG4wc