I find the "meat ersatz" fashion really weird.
There's plenty of delicious stuff to cook without having to go the "it's like meat but it's not meat" route. It's just bizarre.
I eat vegan and vegetarian quite often but a lot of the vegan meats are very processed. Now that the wife is preggers she doesnt want to eat them at all it seems so were just eating organic meat and veggie dishes.I find the "meat ersatz" fashion really weird.
There's plenty of delicious stuff to cook without having to go the "it's like meat but it's not meat" route. It's just bizarre.
Why care bro?
Real talk: meat ersatz is so you can cook the same foods just vegan, not many people have times to find a gazillion new recipes and usually you just eat a few staples anyway in a week.
I eat vegan and vegetarian quite often but a lot of the vegan meats are very processed. Now that the wife is preggers she doesnt want to eat them at all it seems so were just eating organic meat and veggie dishes.I find the "meat ersatz" fashion really weird.
There's plenty of delicious stuff to cook without having to go the "it's like meat but it's not meat" route. It's just bizarre.
Why care bro?
Real talk: meat ersatz is so you can cook the same foods just vegan, not many people have times to find a gazillion new recipes and usually you just eat a few staples anyway in a week.
I don't "care", I'm just expressing my opinion :yeshrug
I always get the feeling that's it's kind of a "we failed to get people to eat healthier, let's see if if they'll bite for a fake burger".
I don't think it really solves the issue, and a lot of that stuff is also not exactly healthier, or better for the environment.
@Cyndi read the Blue Zones Book. Changed my life :lawd
Let's be honest. You clicked cuz u want to see me eat and maybe cook weird shit.
The Blue Zones book started out as a project the author worked with NatGeo to study the world's most longest lived communities and he now spends his time trying to help communities reverse engineer those cultural and living conditions, it's a cool thing and i wish more poeople knew about it. I know we are pretty meh on anything self help in this forum, so maybe it's better to think of it as a cultural project, but it's a little bit of both. Obviously downshifting and a lot of this is harder to do based on your economic conditions, but implementing a lot of these changes in little ways really has improved my QoL.
the author is Dan Buettner
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVauROroe1Y
u don't actually have to do that, but there's a cultural tradition in okinawa called hara hachi bu (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hara_hachi_bun_me) that he ran into when he was doing these surveys, that may be good if u want to lose some weight. americans typically eat super fast, causing us to overeat at times which can be pretty bad combined with a calorie dense diet thats mostly meat, refined grains, oil, and sweeteners.
ed: I actually find his book and work to be intertwined in that the point is that people around the world with good health outcomes aren't actively engaging in self help type obsessively like most americans are (one of the communities is in america!). It's that the communities themselves are set up to provide those outcomes, that we need to engineer a culture of emotional support, good labor conditions, healthy eating, etc.
More seriously: Why did you decide to go Vegan, if you don't mind my asking.
How do you sautee something like onions without oil exactly?
You can sautee with water just fine.I specifically supplement my diet with a tablespoon if MCT oil every day.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/320251.phpQuoteSome supporters of MCT oil also claim it can improve the ability to think
You should bump that to 3-4 tablespoons.
Sautéing or sauteing is a method of cooking that uses a relatively small amount of oil or fat in a shallow pan over relatively high heat
Water just fine for caramelized onions? I have to try this.
if your oven has a broil function, which I guess most modern home ovens do, you can just broil stuff to achieve caramelization
Dating a Mexican chick means I can never go vegan but I enjoy dabbling in this shit.
"I support Esch in anything he does, anything he loves"
:preach
Water just fine for caramelized onions? I have to try this.
I strongly suggest you do it with some type of vinegar in a nonstick instead it'll taste better.
Tangy onions :like
Can't stand the smell of vinegar. I clean with it too and it's awful, been this way since I was a kid.
You can just ignore the religion part, it's simply taking into account that people in religious communities tend to have better support systems, a sense of community, raison detre etc etc. You can get those things elsewhere.
How do you sautee something like onions without oil exactly?
Everyone knows what the meat, dairy, fashion industries are like.
Esch, what are good vegan breakfast options. I've cut out all meats for breakfast for a long time, but I eat plenty of cheese for breakfast. Most vegan options either seem to be a lot of work or rely on products I don't like (cashew based stuff, fake egg).spoiler (click to show/hide)Classic european breakfast ;)
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Even without that shitty joke I imagine it's pretty hard, since you gotta check everything for it's ingredients. Loads of stuff uses gelatine derived from pig/beef skin and bones.
You guys got any good salads to try out? Think the dressing I use, which is just olive oil and lemonjuice, is considered vegan.
tried some vegan stuff like hotdogs, sausages and cookies. all were the worst I've ever had :yuck
Hopefully you didn’t over cook too much, is possible to burn off some thc
:rejoice
https://vegnews.com/2019/7/burger-king-officially-adds-impossible-whopper-to-national-menu-online
My wife likes those.
Top 2 Gardein product and I don't even like fish. Really good if you can whip up some remoulade or some good cashew crema or something to serve with.
Thousands of them work in Oldenburger Land and Emsland. They come from Poland, Ukraine, Romania and Bulgaria. They work in slaughterhouses and cut pigs or cattle by piece. Thanks to this army of wage labourers, rich Germany has become a cheap country for slaughterers. According to experts, the working conditions are often miserable. Double shifts of up to 15 hours, excessive rents for mass accommodation, grotesque fees for time recording chips, protective clothing or the use of the break room. The Green member of the Bundestag, Beate Müller-Gemmeke, also criticizes this as "slave-keeping methods".
On Thursday, members of parliament announced completely surprisingly that they would contain the grievances in German slaughterhouses that had been known for some time. Already in the night to Friday Union and SPD wanted to stop the abuse of work contracts by law and take thereby also the large slaughter companies into the obligation. The CDU labour market expert Karl Schiewerling said in Berlin that the employees were often the last in a chain of subcontractors. There were inscrutable conditions, even criminal machinations.
Actually, a law should contain the problems. In the middle of last year the Bundestag had strengthened the rights of workers in slaughterhouses - for fear of the resistance of the industry in a night and fog action. The industry could no longer invoke subcontractors for violations of labor laws. They were to be held liable themselves. The responsible trade union Nahrung Genuss Gaststätten (NGG) spoke of a milestone. After all, controls would be easier if the working hours had to be recorded.
But now disillusionment is spreading. An answer of the Federal Government to a small inquiry of the Greens, which is present to the South German newspaper, shows: The necessary controls have not increased significantly with the law, but have even decreased rapidly. According to data from the Federal Ministry of Agriculture, the responsible "Financial Control of Undeclared Work" carried out only 233 controls in the meat industry nationwide in 2017. In 2015 there were still 445.
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The government's own statistics make it clear that the controls would be more necessary than ever. A list of fines, fines and imprisonment imposed in the industry as a result of inspections reveals many hits. Between 2015 and 2017, fines doubled to 364,500 euros, and the number of prison sentences imposed in months more than quadrupled - to 356 months.
Obviously the things I said apply to our agricultural policies all around in the developed world, especially in regards to labor conditions, but there are a lot of good reasons to play around with how much meat you're eating even if you don't buy the health research or don't give a fuck about animals. I share this video sometimes because it highlights something that's starting to rear its head (the antibiotic apocalypse)Damn, she's very thoughtful. Really like her channel. Thanks for linking this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNugaxb9MQs
Obviously the things I said apply to our agricultural policies all around in the developed world, especially in regards to labor conditions, but there are a lot of good reasons to play around with how much meat you're eating even if you don't buy the health research or don't give a fuck about animals. I share this video sometimes because it highlights something that's starting to rear its head (the antibiotic apocalypse)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNugaxb9MQs
don't you dare fucking mention durian rider ever again, thxz
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I don't know who that is, but durian is nasty. Tastes like the BO of someone who eats onions all day.
You guys have a favorite protein powder? This is what I'm rocking atm: https://www.amazon.com/Optimum-Nutrition-Standard-Organic-Complete/dp/B075KGR37C?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B075KGR37C&tag=healthcom04a-20&ascsubtag=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e&th=1
Ive tried Vega, Vivolife, Orgain. Currently rocking this:
Pea Protein Powder (80% protein) 1.5 lb, Non-GMO, Vegan, Gluten & Nut Free- Boost your recipes and smoothies with 20 grams protein/serving https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DK2XJYW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Zy4lDbWZJD3R2
It's really cheap and good, and unsweetened.
Let's be honest. You clicked cuz u want to see me eat and maybe cook weird shit.
While nude, baby. While nude. You gotta get in on that Hoff market. ;)
More seriously: Why did you decide to go Vegan, if you don't mind my asking.
2015: I was overweight as hell (50lbs). I've always been chubby my whole life in some way, even when i was fit and doing sports I had some baby fat, but i had really gone off the wheels after college. I was feeling like shit, and i noticed my piss was smelling sweet. I had diabetes. I read the blue zones book by chance in a store and it challenged a lot of perceptions i had about weight loss, carbohydrates, etc that people were telling me (this was when keto was just getting popular) but i mentally shelved it until a good family friend of mine died from heart attack. I was working in the medical field at the time doing alzheimers research and found out that cognitive decline and heart disease are correlated. Decided to try out some meatless meals, instantly felt better.
early 2016: Saw cowspiracy, read a bunch of scientific literature on climate change and animal agriculture to see if it was bs or not, it wasn't, I dropped meat with the intention of maybe going vegan later depending on whether i could keep it up. Sorta ended up loving it. again i got more energy back and my new career picked up. my a1c improved a lot and I was no longer really diabetic.
late 2016: saw Earthlings, it was a lot for me, i'm pretty sensitive. I've seen a lot of violent material and some real life violence in my life, but something about that really clicked with me. I went vegan around this time, for ethical purposes. I started losing a lot of fat when i adopted a more whole foods approach (just being smarter about oil, sugar, flour).
Been vegan since. Saved my life probably lol. It was a lot easier for me than other people because indian culture means you eat a lot of lentils, beans, vegetables, fruits etc but from a health perspective an indian plant based diet has a lot of pitfalls (oily fried crap, sweets, milk and cream in everything, flour, an emphasis on refined carbs over produce).
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tofurky-aclu-cook-suit-against-arkansas-law-banning-veggie-burgers-n1032456watch out for collateral
The flesh tearers are so scared. :lawd
Also trader joe's has a pre packaged vegan lassi where i'm at even though they don't call it that!
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why not bothhttp://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45482.msg2791695#msg2791695
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