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https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1163907264681353218
SUCK MY BIG BLACK DICK FROM THE BACK
BLESS UP
GOD IS GOOD
YOU NEGATIVE ASS MOTHERFUCKER DON'T DESERVE THIS WEIRDNESS BUT THATS OKAY CUZ ITS NOT FOR YOU
BLESS UP
Remember when Wachowskis made a 200 mill movie about space goth royalty and half dog humans and it bombed and niccas said that was a wrap then they made a tv show about coming together as one to defeat evil and those afraid of unity but it got cancelled and even they were like yea we done but nope we still here, goofy forever
bless up
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:brazilcry
bet she still looking good in latex
:tocry
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keanu forever
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Bless up is back huh?
:rejoice :jeb
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I'm fine with this, insofar as they explore the post-Matrix 3 world. They could say Keanu and Carrie are back from the dead because it's like the 7th Cycle of the Matrix.
But you know she's going to retcon the other two and/or ignore it and just make it a Matrix adventure, which would be mostly fine.
I just want a good Cyberpunk movie. :( My favorite genre but it's criminally ignored/misunderstood.
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Bless up is back huh?
:rejoice :jeb
Peace
I'm fine with this, insofar as they explore the post-Matrix 3 world. They could say Keanu and Carrie are back from the dead because it's like the 7th Cycle of the Matrix.
But you know she's going to retcon the other two and/or ignore it and just make it a Matrix adventure, which would be mostly fine.
I just want a good Cyberpunk movie. :( My favorite genre but it's criminally ignored/misunderstood.
Going off your posts in the cyberpunk thread and even here I think the kinda cyberpunk movie you'd want is definitely doable but it'd probably look more like modern thrillers just with more attention paid to setting. Sad part is that kinda shit would be good on even a smaller budget with right location but because of that I doubt ppl would find it exciting enough. You take something like Johnny Mnemonic, ground it way more especially in regards to the decking shit and take out the big explosions is what I'm thinking I guess.
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Well, what I secretly want is a good Neuromancer adaptation. But I know that isn't going to happen. :(
The Matrix is probably the best of the Cyberpunk live-action films.
I'd say Ghost in the Shell and the Animatrix mini-films were also really good.
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Really hope this doesn't suck.
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Call me a joyless cynic but I'm starting with the expectation it will be shit. Reloaded is meh. Revolutions just plain bad and AFAIK the Wachowski most recent work wasn't that great either.
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I think the best thing they could do is try to do a different action style than wire-fu or try to modernize it. If they keep the same style it's going to feel really dated.
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+ A Wachowski is overseeing production
+ Keanu is back!
+ Carrie-Ann is back!
+ The Matrix is back!
~ We all knew this was coming eventually
- A question mark on Morpheus of all characters? He lived! Trinity and Neo died! Is Revolutions canon? Is this?
- "Maybe recast Morpheus to be younger" ???
- I don't see Don Davis's name in any of this either...
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Call me a joyless cynic but I'm starting with the expectation it will be shit. Reloaded is meh. Revolutions just plain bad and AFAIK the Wachoski most recent work wasn't that great either.
I'm pretty confident saying this is almost certainly going to be a 180 on some level from the previous films. It could still be bad, but it'll be different at least. So I don't think relying on Reloaded/Revolutions, especially 16 years out, to divine the quality of this film is fair.
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Well, what I secretly want is a good Neuromancer adaptation. But I know that isn't going to happen. :(
The Matrix is probably the best of the Cyberpunk live-action films.
I'd say Ghost in the Shell and the Animatrix mini-films were also really good.
Me and you both. The dreads smoking weed in the satellites has been a way bigger influence on me that even I realize. I know so much of Neuromancer has been stolen for other works but I still think it could be a great one off adventure. I was thinking recently that probably the best way to sell it in this era is center the whole thing more around Molly. Shift the dude more into a kind of damsel in distress/dude way way over his head seat. If it hits then you could maybe franchise it/her.
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Really hope this doesn't suck.
Spoiler: It's going to suck.
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What's going to be really telling about this (before scripts leak/production starts/trailers come/etc.) is the budget. If it's $150 mil or less, we will already know this is going to be WAY less action-focused than Reloaded or Revolutions, which could be a good thing. Imagine a big budget, full-length version of your favorite Animatrix short. Could still be a great movie while avoiding retreading the original trilogy's ground.
Story-wise, if this is canon, I wonder if the video games will remain canon or get jettisoned to the same place as Star Wars' EU. Neo never being fully revived was a key requirement the Wachowkis had on the writers for The Matrix Online, as they felt if Neo was resurrected it would cheapen his sacrifice (and they're right.) So I'm very curious how both of these two are back, unless it's something trippy like "Zion archive material."
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We do this for every Wachowski discussion but
The Matrix: Perfect
Reloaded: Great
Revolutions: Bad
Speed Racer: Good
Cloud Atlas: Great
And I haven't seen it but for the sake of capitulation to Wachowski haters, for the purposes of discussion we can count it as "bad." (And on that note, we can also probably count their debut "Bound" as good, as I haven't seen that either.)
They have a better record percentage wise than Spielberg. :idont
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Only way to make it work is if the "real world" of the past movies, was actually another simulation.
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And even their bad movies are still interesting and different from usual Hollywood pap :idont
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Only way to make it work is if the "real world" of the past movies, was actually another simulation.
Not sure how you introduce this concept without making the entire series of events in the movies utterly pointless, so I've never been a fan of this theory (back when it was circulating on Matrix message boards...)
It's also just another way to retread the same ground the Architect laid ("Ah ha! You thought you were free BUT REALLY YOU'RE NOT!") Would rather have fresh ideas.
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Path of Neo > Matrix 4
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And even their bad movies are still interesting and different from usual Hollywood pap :idont
Speed Racer is great.
Jupiter Ascending, even i won't defend, i just couldn't stand it.
Only way to make it work is if the "real world" of the past movies, was actually another simulation.
Not sure how you introduce this concept without making the entire series of events in the movies utterly pointless, so I've never been a fan of this theory (back when it was circulating on Matrix message boards...)
It's also just another way to retread the same ground the Architect laid ("Ah ha! You thought you were free BUT REALLY YOU'RE NOT!") Would rather have fresh ideas.
I was joking, didn't know it was an actual theory. :lol
The problem from a lore pov, is justifying them aging inside the Matrix maybe.
I dunno, i think it'll be a train wreck, but probably a fun one.
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I'm here for it
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Wachowskis haven't done a bad project. You can murder me on this hill. Bless.
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Path of Neo > Matrix 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvDeXaiBy3I
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Path of Neo > Matrix 4
I actually won a OG Xbox game lot from Ebay that has Path of Neo. :-*
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I just want another animatrix :stahp
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I just want another animatrix :stahp
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matrix online reboot when
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Same. Just let the main series die and give us something different :stahp
Lana Wachowski is still a Wachowski. It's going to be something different.
I'm half expecting them to pull a reverse-Terminator 2 and have (AI duplicates of) Neo and Trinity be the bad guy Agent-stand-ins. Or something.
A Wachowski doing something samey and rehashy would be a first. Not impossible but not likely based on history.
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:rejoice
will forever defend reloaded
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I'm surprised people remember the Animatrix that fondly. I saw it like once as a kid and I remember not caring for it at all.
Is it worth revisiting?
3 or 4 of the stories are legit good, especially the one in the haunted house
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Keanu as an unrepentant asshole badguy... Would be preeeeeetty unexpected and different.
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The Animatrix is a masterpiece.
I'm surprised people remember the Animatrix that fondly. I saw it like once as a kid and I remember not caring for it at all.
Is it worth revisiting?
3 or 4 of the stories are legit good, especially the one in the haunted house
I didn't care for that one, but Beyond edit- Matriculated (where they attempt to re-train a machine) and a lot of its concepts have stuck with me. I also watched it when I was like 11, and it was the first time I had seen violence like in the Second Renaissance, and it permanently affected me.
So maybe I'm unbiased when it comes to The Animatrix, but I really do think some of the shorts have been produced by legitimate science-fiction geniuses.
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:rejoice
will forever defend reloaded
In this boat with you too.
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Keanu as an unrepentant asshole badguy... Would be preeeeeetty unexpected and different.
You haven't watched Man of Tai Chi and Street Kings? He plyes the bad guy in those.
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Keanu as an unrepentant asshole badguy... Would be preeeeeetty unexpected and different.
You haven't watched Man of Tai Chi and Street Kings? He plyes the bad guy in those.
Correct. Most people haven't either, so I think there'd still be a large surprise factor for the general public.
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what if john wick was in the matrix vs evil neo :gladbron
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Keanu as an unrepentant asshole badguy... Would be preeeeeetty unexpected and different.
You haven't watched Man of Tai Chi and Street Kings? He plyes the bad guy in those.
Correct. Most people haven't either, so I think there'd still be a large surprise factor for the general public.
Oh he also plays the creep in Neon Demon, and there was another one i saw recently where he was a bad guy, but i can't remember what it was.
I see your point though, especially since the "good guy Keanu" meme took off big time, in recent years.
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Yup exactly. I had forgotten he was even in the Neon Demon though. :lol He was a great sleazeball in that.
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what if john wick was in the matrix vs evil neo :gladbron
John Wick 4: The Matrix in the pipeline :jeb
It was actually The Matrix 4: John Wick :jeb
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Well, what I secretly want is a good Neuromancer adaptation. But I know that isn't going to happen. :(
The Matrix is probably the best of the Cyberpunk live-action films.
I'd say Ghost in the Shell and the Animatrix mini-films were also really good.
Me and you both. The dreads smoking weed in the satellites has been a way bigger influence on me that even I realize. I know so much of Neuromancer has been stolen for other works but I still think it could be a great one off adventure. I was thinking recently that probably the best way to sell it in this era is center the whole thing more around Molly. Shift the dude more into a kind of damsel in distress/dude way way over his head seat. If it hits then you could maybe franchise it/her.
Molly is a really good character, that features into the other two Sprawl books. So I could see them making her the protagonist over Case, easily. But Neuromancer is mostly Case's vehicle, so they'd have to rework things to fit Molly into the run-time/story more than her side-character/assistant/bodyguard role is.
I'm surprised people remember the Animatrix that fondly. I saw it like once as a kid and I remember not caring for it at all.
Is it worth revisiting?
Some of them are duds, but most of them are solid enough. Way better than the Matrix sequels, easily.
I'm honestly surprised the series has been dormant and not in like Comic Books or anime. The Animatrix shorts showed that an anime series or deeper exploration into the Matrix/simulation itself could've carried the IP than the whole "Neo = God" thing.
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Seems like they just decided to let a woman write and direct instead of finding the best person available. Not interested in forced diversity in my Matrix, firm pass fro me.
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Seems like they just decided to let a woman write and direct instead of finding the best person available. Not interested in forced diversity in my Matrix, firm pass fro me.
The only other alternative candidate to direct a Matrix film is Lilly.
I know it'll happen eventually, but I absolutely hate the idea of non-Wachowski The Matrix. Or at least, the concept of such a movie as filtered through today's Hollywood.
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4 big budget flops if you include Sense8..... This is the Do Me A Favor cycle of a director. #latestagewachowski
It's going to be shit.
He's absolutely right. This is a desparate move from a director that has a right to be in a desperate state.
Honestly those movies hardly hold up today, don't know how you can expect for lightning to strike twice, especially after Nolan and Villenueve and a bunch of others have taken similar ideas and have run much farther and better with it. It's gonna suck, maybe not Jupiter Ascending levels of suck but it's not going to be good.
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For every negative post ITT I'm going to post a corresponding and rad Matrix song or GIF. You have been warned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKkg_RgGt8c
:rock :rock :rock :rock :rock :rock
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When Dragula was in every single movie and videogame :rejoice
Those were simpler times.
It actually just showed up on CW's The Flash last season too. :lol
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Blair Witch 2 had a surprisingly awesome soundtrack.
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Also I definitely live in The Matrix. I've been revisiting Matrix stuff for the past two weeks and then this news hits. :neo
(https://i.imgur.com/WOJTn24.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSXA4C2K9TM
I love this guy's videos, mostly the production aspect. It's all stuff I've watched 2-3x on my DVDs, just edited down with an educational thrust. Very enjoyable and he gives each aspect of the franchise (including sequels and games) the attention it deserves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqhhy0yGAX4
This one is more annoying and I don't think it's some work of genius as he does, but there are good ideas here and I appreciate the fact he tried keeping as much of Reloaded (and Revolutions, I guess...) intact instead of just writing sheer fanfiction. As he said, some tweaks are really all Reloaded needed.
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Seems like they just decided to let a woman write and direct instead of finding the best person available. Not interested in forced diversity in my Matrix, firm pass fro me.
I love you.
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I still haven't seen the third movie. Will have to watch it and see if it's as bad as advertised. I thought Reloaded was...ok, not terrible. Very flawed but there's definitely enough interesting shit (and cool scenes) to make it worthwhile to a degree.
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Revolutions is pretty decent if you skip any scene in the real world that lacks Neo or Trinity. Literally none of them matter to the story in the slightest.
Like James in Twin Peaks s2.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwGuSPXPyX4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZn19SDs0mE
Kawajiri Forever
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omg what if the real world was actually a second layer of the matrix
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Guess it's time I confessed I never watched either Matrix sequel. Only the scene where Monica Bellucci makes out with Jada Pinkett Smith.
You really don't need to, although the highway scene from Reloaded is one of the best car chase scenes ever.
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Trinity gonna look thicc in latex :whew
(http://i.imgur.com/vMZNAf0.jpg)
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How will the Matrix modernize? WIll the redpill turn everyone into chubby nazis with chinstraps?
Sure is hilarious how all the chuds have latched on to a trans allegory isn't it. :doge
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Trinity gonna look thicc in latex :whew
(http://i.imgur.com/vMZNAf0.jpg)
:lawd
:noah
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Trinity gonna look thicc in latex :whew
(http://i.imgur.com/vMZNAf0.jpg)
Help Neo, I'm trying to sneak around but I'm so dummy thicc that the clap from my ass cheeks keeps alerting the agents!
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And even their bad movies are still interesting and different from usual Hollywood pap :idont
Speed Racer is great.
Jupiter Ascending, even i won't defend, i just couldn't stand it.
Only way to make it work is if the "real world" of the past movies, was actually another simulation.
Not sure how you introduce this concept without making the entire series of events in the movies utterly pointless, so I've never been a fan of this theory (back when it was circulating on Matrix message boards...)
It's also just another way to retread the same ground the Architect laid ("Ah ha! You thought you were free BUT REALLY YOU'RE NOT!") Would rather have fresh ideas.
I was joking, didn't know it was an actual theory. :lol
The problem from a lore pov, is justifying them aging inside the Matrix maybe.
I dunno, i think it'll be a train wreck, but probably a fun one.
I was 💯 convinced that this was the case at the end of reloaded (which I loved. Haters gonna hate). I was sure that when Neo could see the machines in the final scene of the matrix that this was evidence that the matrix was a nested within another matrix, and Neo was the first person to be able to figure it out.
Revolutions was trash though, and this fan theory makes way more sense than what actually happened in the movie. Instead he can just see machines because.... why?
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Guess it's time I confessed I never watched either Matrix sequel. Only the scene where Monica Bellucci makes out with Jada Pinkett Smith.
That's the game. :wag :wag :wag
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Guess it's time I confessed I never watched either Matrix sequel. Only the scene where Monica Bellucci makes out with Jada Pinkett Smith.
That's the game. :wag :wag :wag
I never played the game so I thought Wrath was just talking shit :lol
Niobe kisses Persephone in the game? Really? ::)
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Guess it's time I confessed I never watched either Matrix sequel. Only the scene where Monica Bellucci makes out with Jada Pinkett Smith.
That's the game. :wag :wag :wag
I never played the game so I thought Wrath was just talking shit :lol
Niobe kisses Persephone in the game? Really? ::)
It's the same scene Neo does with her, basically. Just Jada does it for the Shiny (non-Path of Neo) game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQu454XTlLk
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All three Matrix movies are good.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQmzGhtwTfY
cinema full of cool black dudes but Larry Fishburne as Morpheus still top 10.
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I feel like the truth is there’s a lot of people who have shit on them over the years who will be seeing this one in theaters just like all the others
spoiler (click to show/hide)
What if we’re the real matrix 4
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Underrated moment: when he looks up and mutters quietly to himself for reassurance, "There is no spoon." A different (dumber) movie wouldn't have a moment like that...
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Underrated moment: when he looks up and mutters quietly to himself for reassurance, "There is no spoon." A different (dumber) movie wouldn't have a moment like that...
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"He's beginning to believe..."
:uguu
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Pour one out for Assy.
Missing this pivotal moment and sharing it with his Boritos.
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I wonder if they will bring back the Wachowski brothers for this too
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hard no thank you on this.
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I'm honestly surprised the series has been dormant and not in like Comic Books or anime. The Animatrix shorts showed that an anime series or deeper exploration into the Matrix/simulation itself could've carried the IP than the whole "Neo = God" thing.
I'm taking the piss here a bit but the derivative work is not needed when the originals already exist in those formats.
And really I don't think the Matrix really was very successful at fleshing its world all that well. That's not to shit on Animatrix who has some massive bits dedicated to that : they're not bad. But really I suspect the big draw is the whole "fake real world, computer shadow masters, hackers using reality cheats for cool fights" and there's only so much you can do with that. The characters are pretty meh especially all the fucking jobbers they added, the story off the monomyth shelf and Zion is a mixed bag (some of the robot design are cool).
Always had a massive soft spot for Carrie Anne Moss though so there's that.
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Well, I'm more talking about the programs like the artist child in the third one. They kinda explored that in Reloaded, but didn't do much with it. The comics could actually flesh-out the world beyond what you just said: Cool fights, fake world, etc.
The Animatrix sort of did that with "the Second Renascence," but they could've dedicated an entire property (like... oh... the ill-fated MMO) toward building the world beyond the movie. Like, I remember the Japanese Matrix short (which had a girl character) but the movies don't even explain the other "servers," or another world. It's just a "generic world" that the main-three all came from.
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Another toilet room thought : the Matrix universe is maybe weak because it was too "mystical", a kitchen sink of Reader's Digest philosophy and in a word too generic to really support a rich, vibrant and engaging cyberpunk universe. That's the problem of having a cookie-cutter Messiah protagonist and an elusive, abstract all powerful shadow master (well not so much a shadow master but a computer god, more or less). Which is all perfectly fine, mind you, but probably was good for one film as it turned out.
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They just need to retccon 2 and 3 and move on from where the first movie ended or simply do a big reboot.
The movies worked better when the Matrix was an abstract and the machine world wasn't clearly defined. As soon as you had dudes in suits with mini guns shooting on the space squids the entire sense of wonder was gone.
Not to mention Neo as 'The One' was pretty much invincible at the end of the first movie all the way to the final scene. Any sense of danger or challenge was swept away by him easily fighting 100's of Agent Smiths, which looked cool but felt empty.
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Another toilet room thought : the Matrix universe is maybe weak because it was too "mystical", a kitchen sink of Reader's Digest philosophy and in a word too generic to really support a rich, vibrant and engaging cyberpunk universe. That's the problem of having a cookie-cutter Messiah protagonist and an elusive, abstract all powerful shadow master (well not so much a shadow master but a computer god, more or less). Which is all perfectly fine, mind you, but probably was good for one film as it turned out.
The matrix was never supposed to be a rich universe, the wachowskis just wanted to reshoot some of their favorite anime sequences in live action :idont
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They just need to retccon 2 and 3 and move on from where the first movie ended or simply do a big reboot.
Oh, is that all?
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Matrix 4 is going to reveal that it isn’t AI subjugating humans, it is the wealthy elite exploiting the underclass. Agents aren’t AI, they’re humans with cheat codes enabled who are in the Matrix to monitor the prisoners, like jail wardens.
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The whole "wink wink remember Matrix" in John Wick becomes weird now that Matrix actually isn't dead.
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The Matrix is a lot like Star Wars in that you can tell literally any story set within that universe. It doesn't have to be tied to Neo/The One or even machines and breaking free. You can tell stories completely set within The Matrix with characters that don't know they're in The Matrix and have nothing to do with waking up, but keep the aesthetic. You can do comedy stories. You can do standard dramas. You can do cyberpunk. You can do horror. Literally any genre and style of story could be done under The Matrix banner.
Honestly, I agree, even if you're not being sincere. They could do a total in-the-Matrix film, give some hints about the world being weird. And then have the big-reveal be tied into the Matrix (you're in the Matrix, Neo) and that shit would be cool if done right.
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The whole "wink wink remember Matrix" in John Wick becomes weird now that Matrix actually isn't dead.
That must have been part of 2 and 3 which I haven't seen yet. Don't remember any Matrix callouts in the original.
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The Matrix is a lot like Star Wars in that you can tell literally any story set within that universe. It doesn't have to be tied to Neo/The One or even machines and breaking free. You can tell stories completely set within The Matrix with characters that don't know they're in The Matrix and have nothing to do with waking up, but keep the aesthetic. You can do comedy stories. You can do standard dramas. You can do cyberpunk. You can do horror. Literally any genre and style of story could be done under The Matrix banner.
Honestly, I agree, even if you're not being sincere. They could do a total in-the-Matrix film, give some hints about the world being weird. And then have the big-reveal be tied into the Matrix (you're in the Matrix, Neo) and that shit would be cool if done right.
Yeah, I'm wondering if that's the direction they'll go in. :hmm
What's going to be really telling about this (before scripts leak/production starts/trailers come/etc.) is the budget. If it's $150 mil or less, we will already know this is going to be WAY less action-focused than Reloaded or Revolutions, which could be a good thing. Imagine a big budget, full-length version of your favorite Animatrix short. Could still be a great movie while avoiding retreading the original trilogy's ground.
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The Matrix is a lot like Star Wars in that you can tell literally any story set within that universe. It doesn't have to be tied to Neo/The One or even machines and breaking free. You can tell stories completely set within The Matrix with characters that don't know they're in The Matrix and have nothing to do with waking up, but keep the aesthetic. You can do comedy stories. You can do standard dramas. You can do cyberpunk. You can do horror. Literally any genre and style of story could be done under The Matrix banner.
What would be the fucking point then? Slap the Matrix label on it and hope that it helps not having a Wacho movie ultrabomb again?
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The Matrix is a lot like Star Wars in that you can tell literally any story set within that universe. It doesn't have to be tied to Neo/The One or even machines and breaking free. You can tell stories completely set within The Matrix with characters that don't know they're in The Matrix and have nothing to do with waking up, but keep the aesthetic. You can do comedy stories. You can do standard dramas. You can do cyberpunk. You can do horror. Literally any genre and style of story could be done under The Matrix banner.
Cant wait until the prequels are outed to be created by AI that tried to to replicate something true to Lucas vision and ideal Star Wars only to be rejected by humans who couldn't cope with that perfection
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cloverfield has rotted both your brains
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The Matrix is a lot like Star Wars in that you can tell literally any story set within that universe. It doesn't have to be tied to Neo/The One or even machines and breaking free. You can tell stories completely set within The Matrix with characters that don't know they're in The Matrix and have nothing to do with waking up, but keep the aesthetic. You can do comedy stories. You can do standard dramas. You can do cyberpunk. You can do horror. Literally any genre and style of story could be done under The Matrix banner.
What would be the fucking point then?
I mean, we're not lacking in scifi right now, but I welcome the additional stories and creativity possible with the IP.
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I'd say the Matrix is a lot like Star Wars in that it's more important than it is good.
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What would be the fucking point then? Slap the Matrix label on it and hope that it helps not having a Wacho movie ultrabomb again?
The Matrix is a universe, a concept that can be applied to a wide range of stories and make something great. That was 'the fucking point' of the animatrix.
:comeon
They even built the idea of tons of previous versions of The Matrix into the lore.
I'm gonna say the proof is in the pudding that the potential wasn't really there because we never really got any of those stories. The franchise fizzled and sorta died beyond the initial push because the Matrix is more of a good concept than an actual fleshed living world. Stro bringing up Star Wars is very apt because it's the poster child of a fictional universe that would at first glance be an incredible base for all sort of stories but in reality is chained to the original characters, the Jedi, the lightsabers and a couple of other elements... And really outside of that, it's pretty one dimensional and simplistic.
The Matrix city isn't really interesting in itself, it's generic and it's the whole point innit, to be literally an empty, low level simulation and mirror image of the current day. It works incredibly well for what the first film sets to do but I really struggle to see it as a mysterious, exciting and engaging place suitable to many other stories. There's not really much else than "character realize world is fake", "character use that realization to activate god mode", "character fight the system". There's some elegant ways to do that, the Animatrix short "World Record" by Kawajiri / Koike explore a more relatable, concrete angle with the whole "breaking the limits" through sports (plus some unique visual flair)... Though it's sort of retread of another Kawajiri's work (The Runner in Manie Manie).
There's no unique design, no anticipation, there's no politics or geopolitics in the City : The Matrix, outside its visuals, is not really (or so much, to avoid the pointless definition debate) a Cyberpunk piece than a story about Faith and not the most complex one at that (the incredibly transparent character names are a testament to that).
The most interesting thing in the story IMHO, that's not quite well realized, is the realization come the second film that Morpheus is basically a religious nut and terrorist going on a prayer.
But heh, life and art is a string of pleasant surprises and that wouldn't be the first I'd be wrong about something.
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https://twitter.com/sjmay92/status/1164179684508262400
:noah
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There are infinite cities, infinite people, infinite whatever. The Matrix as a concept isn't really tied to Neo specifically unlike the Star Wars saga being pretty heavily tied to the Skywalker family of nerds.
Infinite cities of nothing to keep human drones at the lowest possible level of stimulation.
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It's not tied to Neo yeah. You could do plenty of "Twilight Zone" type stories about people in the Matrix and out.
You could use the Matrix world to tell stories about really anything. Explain super natural stuff. Tell a story about someone who was blind in the MAtrix, but not in the real world. Explore someone in the real world using the Matrix to create his ideal life. Tell stories about the human condition. The Matrix has an asthetic, a tone, a style, rules, and so on. Plenty of solid writing could happen. But I mean in comic books and whatnot. I can't think of an ongoing major story. It kind of is all about this chosen one narrative. Prequel stories are dumb and we already know that basically all the other ones did the same thing anyway. I don't know how you make a major conflict story past the machine war beyond radically changing things.
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The first time I saw The Matrix, I thought that Trinity was supposed to be a transwoman because I misheard/misunderstood that scene in the club where Neo is like "I thought you were a man".
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https://twitter.com/GuyFieri/status/1164281900711710722
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turtles all the way down
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There are infinite cities, infinite people, infinite whatever. The Matrix as a concept isn't really tied to Neo specifically unlike the Star Wars saga being pretty heavily tied to the Skywalker family of nerds.
Except they're bringing back Neo and Trinity.
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There are infinite cities, infinite people, infinite whatever. The Matrix as a concept isn't really tied to Neo specifically unlike the Star Wars saga being pretty heavily tied to the Skywalker family of nerds.
Except they're bringing back Neo and Trinity.
Well yeah but like....after that. Once the franchise is brought back they can go in a million directions, none of which have to do with Neo and Trinity, if it's a success and brings the franchise back to life. In the same way that Star Wars spin off movies COULD actually be spin off movies unrelated to Skywalkers or the Force.
Let's be honest, they won't.
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There are infinite cities, infinite people, infinite whatever. The Matrix as a concept isn't really tied to Neo specifically unlike the Star Wars saga being pretty heavily tied to the Skywalker family of nerds.
Except they're bringing back Neo and Trinity.
I mean, that doesn't negate what he said: Star Wars is pretty much tied to the Skywalkers. The Matrix isn't tied to Neo and Trinity. They're bringing them back because they know that'll make bank. But there's nothing stopping them from attempting to do a Solo/Rogue One sort of side-story within the universe that DOESN'T involve Neo/Trinity/Morpheus.
The problem is WB didn't bother once the Wachowski's were done. Probably because they were money sinks for visual effects, probably because the Wachowski's forbided it (possible), or possibly because they didn't see anything with a script worth doing (which is partly why they're doing it now. The Wachowski sibling is interested in the script to do another one, same with Reeves and Moss).
Again: The Animatrix shows they could do many different things if they put their mind to it. Whereas, Star Wars is kinda trapped in the Sith/Jedi shit and can't break from that. I mean, it kinda did in Rogue One, but it still had "The Force" in it.
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Star Wars has a trilogy of short-story anthologies about bounty hunters, shady aliens at the cantina, and Jabba's palace, but none of that stuff will ever really make it into the movies [except maybe as an aside]. Disney only wants to drop $150-$200 million on something that seems like a sure bet, which means almost exclusively Jedi vs. Sith and Skywalkers. I'm not going to be surprised if WB feels pretty much the same about The Matrix.
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Is'nt the Rian Johnson Star Wars not going to be about the Skywalkers?
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Is'nt the Rian Johnson Star Wars not going to be about the Skywalkers?
That's what they've said, and whatever the Game of Thrones guys are doing. I'll believe it when I see it, though.
The Mandalorian series looks like they're actually trying something new, hopefully that ends up being the case.
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star war sucks. keep trash in the trash thread pls :yuck
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star war sucks. keep trash in the trash thread pls :yuck
The Matrix certainly has a better ratio of hits-v-misses.
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the matrix rules, bih 8) unban assy, he'll explain :pimp
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ28SypAk80
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(https://i.imgur.com/VNGrJFs.gif)
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star war sucks. keep trash in the trash thread pls :yuck
The Matrix certainly has a better ratio of hits-v-misses.
What do you mean? The Matrix is a standalone movie, and Star Wars consists of three movies. I wonder why they stopped making Star Wars after 1983, but maybe it's for the best.
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original matrix is still a GOAT action movie :rejoice
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I'm not going to be surprised if WB feels pretty much the same about The Matrix.
I mean, if that's the case: Why did they drop the money on Shiny (TWICE!), do an MMO with Monolith, do an anime short-story collection, etc right after the first film (and the sequels were starting up). It feels like they wanted it to be huge but after the fan reception of the sequels, they kinda got cold feet (despite the Wachowski's leaving could possibly be a good thing: The Animatrix wasn't really overseen by them. They basically got these anime big-hit dudes and said "do what you think would fit, we'll approve it mostly", and that turned out pretty good).
I don't think doing a smaller less money-sink Matrix budget film would be that big of a risk, but we're also talking of an industry (that like gaming) is too risk-averse anymore to actually bother attempting to do original things like the Matrix.
(And before people say "hurr durr Matrix ripped off a ton of shit,":
https://twitter.com/GreatDismal/status/1164240403270270976
)
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star war sucks. keep trash in the trash thread pls :yuck
The Matrix certainly has a better ratio of hits-v-misses.
3/8 main star wars movies are good, 1/3 main matrix movies are good.
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https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1163923828738838529
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star war sucks. keep trash in the trash thread pls :yuck
The Matrix certainly has a better ratio of hits-v-misses.
3/8 main star wars movies are good, 1/3 main matrix movies are good.
::)
wet. blanket.
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cant keep living in the matrix brehs :trumps
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"main movies" lolz
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1/3 and 3/10 isnt that different :batman
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IT'S A ALLEGORICAL YOU FUCK
Well yeah. I'm glad we agree. ;) Allegories in general are not (or less) conductive to living, breathing fictional worlds that live on their own.
Not sarcasm by the way I wished I could have worded it so succinctly.
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1/3 and 3/10 isnt that different :batman
It will be going forward.
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1/3 and 3/10 isnt that different :batman
It will be going forward.
I expect both franchises to be shit though :rejoice
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(https://i.imgur.com/Gj3r3Az.png)
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(https://i.imgur.com/Gj3r3Az.png)
The matrix is real :noooo :bolo :goty :stahp :crazy :confused :social2 :rogan :mods
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It's harder to prove that we aren't in a simulation now than it has ever been before.
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It's harder to prove that we aren't in a simulation now than it has ever been before.
Particle and quantum shit blows my mind.
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I just realized that they could get Will Smith to be in this as a cameo. :thinking
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It's harder to prove that we aren't in a simulation now than it has ever been before.
Particle and quantum shit blows my mind.
I'm reading a Hawking book and him just casually throwing a 'simple' formula out there about how black holes and singularity work is :lawd
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I just realized that they could get Will Smith to be in this as a cameo. :thinking
HAS to be dressed like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zXKtfKnfT8
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matrix online reboot when
put the old one up on Steam as F2P, sell people skins for $200 :jeb
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Can I buy Trinity's skin? :rash :cody
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MxO almost definitely still has private servers.
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MxO almost definitely still has private servers.
What if we're in a Matrix Online server right now?? duuuude...
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MxO almost definitely still has private servers.
What if we're in a Matrix Online server right now?? duuuude...
(https://i.imgur.com/rXKhuN5.gif)
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MxO almost definitely still has private servers.
What if we're in a Matrix Online server right now?? duuuude...
https://youtu.be/tojjzlp1g7Q
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Different apocalyptic scifi, but...
https://mspoweruser.com/microsoft-will-likely-create-skynet-says-study/
Microsoft scores rather highly in the birthplace of Skynet rankings. Microsoft has invested extensively in developing artificial intelligence products, has very close relationships with the US military, and Satya Nadella has committed to providing the military with their very best technology. While Microsoft has fallen short of explicitly developing AI for military purposes, we do know that they have developed a version of the HoloLens for the military that is specifically designed to increase the lethality of soldiers in the field.
For Microsoft, the US military is likely to be a key growth sector.
While it may not have been awarded yet, Microsoft is likely to win the $10 billion Department of Defense JEDI contract.
:vr :salute
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Google was one of the seven companies found to be engaging in “best practice”. As well as dropping out of the race for the JEDI cloud contract; the company declined the renewal of the Pentagon contract “Project Maven”, which used machine learning to distinguish people and objects in drone videos.
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the US military should be banned from naming things after sci-fi
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the US military should be banned from naming things after sci-fi
I only support Disney-based naming conventions, like Operation Dumbo Drop.
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the US military should be banned from naming things after sci-fi
I only support Disney-based naming conventions, like Operation Dumbo Drop.
Department of Defense JEDI contract
:bolo
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Now I'm conflicted.
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https://youtu.be/J1XhcSyVr-A
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(https://i.imgur.com/rxuGE8W.gif)
"A beautiful script that is a love story, it’s inspiring."
(https://i.imgur.com/Lkeufcu.gif)
"Things looked a little dire for Neo..."
(https://i.imgur.com/er6AKIV.gif)
"It’s another version of a kind of call to wake
up and it has some great action. All will be revealed."
(https://i.imgur.com/8Zt0HGW.gif)
"No, no. No going in the past."
(https://i.imgur.com/phxamHE.gif)
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(https://i.imgur.com/RcYAVxR.gif)
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(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/RealRectangularCarpenterant-small.gif)
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/10-01-2015/9A3orC.gif)
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CourteousUnfoldedDiamondbackrattlesnake-size_restricted.gif)
(https://i.imgur.com/eTwc8vk.gif)
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ShockedTameGrouse-small.gif)
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why was this bumped
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matrix rules 8)
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why was this bumped
https://www.indiewire.com/2020/09/keanu-reeves-matrix-4-love-story-not-set-past-1234587062/
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Going forward, I will be rubricating direct quotes from Neo/Thomas Anderson in red letter.
"What do you want?"
(https://i.imgur.com/Jd4DRez.gif)
"Peace."
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I was just rewatching Reloaded tonight and man, I really hope Don Davis comes back.
Bill Pope not being DP is bummer enough, I don't have anything against John Toll, I loved Cloud Atlas. But the music is so key.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsigSyTME9E
"You have the sight now, Neo. You are looking at the world without time."
The subdued, melancholy Matrix fanfare right before and during these lines gives me chills as much as any of the cool action moments (also massively enhanced by Davis' score.)
It's possible I'll be either fully surprised (Davis comes back) or mildly surprised (they get a new guy who is pretty good at capturing the old flair), but nothing would say "The Matrix is back" more than "Don Davis is back." Guess we'll see.
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tasy is back ;) bareback :drool
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tasy is back ;) bareback :drool
Jack in, baby :lawd
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Matrix 4 script leak
Morpheus: "Neo, the SJWs are taking over the Matrix. Take this red pill!"
Neo: "One step ahead of you, I'm already playing Cyberpunk 2077!"
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Will wait for eras review on whether I can see this or not depending on it's inclusivity.
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Morpheus: "Neo, did you find the Elephant?"
Neo: "No, but Smith's there I can feel it... but a different version of Smith.... the elephant wherever he is, he's close. Could be in a motorcade or a plane."
Smith: "I'm sorry, I can't let you enter this arena, I won't. I will have you and your ilk removed. Your stench erased."
Neo: "Smith... I defeated you once, I can do it again. Let me in and you can keep your new job!"
Smith: "Mister Anderson, so you wish to join us. Why don't you wear this red hat. Make a few laughs. Enjoy the show. Join all these forgotten men and women it is inevitable. Or wear the blue hat. The hat of losers. The hat that doesn't fit well. The hat that smells. The choice is yours"
Neo: "Okay, I will wear your stupid hat if you let me in"
Morpheus: "Link, what's that hat?"
Link: "I don't know sir, I've never seen a trojan as powerful and well hidden as this before"
Neo: "Woah.....I ... I want to... .make Mega City great again"
Smith: "In that case Mr. Anderson, you will love infrastructure week. The elephant should be here soon."
Link: "Neo is under some kind of spell sir!"
Trinity: "Is it the Merovingian?"
Link: "He published it but I think it was written by the Drussians sir"
Morpheus: "The Drussians? The Secret hacker cult? Once they hack Zion and release our communications it's all over!"
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https://twitter.com/willw/status/1330683765622857728
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We do this for every Wachowski discussion but
The Matrix: Perfect
Reloaded: Great
Revolutions: Bad
Speed Racer: Good
Cloud Atlas: Great
And I haven't seen it but for the sake of capitulation to Wachowski haters, for the purposes of discussion we can count it as "bad." (And on that note, we can also probably count their debut "Bound" as good, as I haven't seen that either.)
They have a better record percentage wise than Spielberg. :idont
Bound is good. Maybe dated now, but it was fab at the time.
And I’m on-board with your ratings.
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Keanu as an unrepentant asshole badguy... Would be preeeeeetty unexpected and different.
A friend of mine proposed that the optimal Matrix sequel would be Neo as the bad guy. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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Keanu as an unrepentant asshole badguy... Would be preeeeeetty unexpected and different.
A friend of mine proposed that the optimal Matrix sequel would be Neo as the bad guy. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
I still hope they go that way, but I've also been thinking of alternatives. Especially with some of the few details Keanu just gave, I have some ideas...
Things we can assume for sure:
- It's a sequel and takes place in-universe after the end of Revolutions.
- Neo, the character, is alive again.
- I'm less sure about Trinity, I thought it may be possible she was a Merovingian construct or something, but with the focus on it being a "love story," it seems more likely that they're reuniting Neo and Trinity for real, the concept of permadeath be damned. There is one alternative to Neo/Trinity being the main love focus, which I'll get to in a second...
- Laurence Fishburne has not been cast, so we can also assume that at the very least "present" Morpheus will not be returning.
What's less likely is whether it will reference or acknowledge the "lesser-tier canon" stuff, primarily The Animatrix and The Matrix Online. The Matrix Online is particularly important, since that was supposed to occupy the same "canon" space that the Buffy Season 8/9/etc. comics did for that franchise.
It was also the game that killed the shit out of Morpheus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWPey1fU9Ok
Now, if The Matrix 4 is building on The Matrix Online and treating it as canon, then Laurence Fishburne not even being asked to come back makes sense. And that's a huge bummer for Morpheus fans. But all may not be lost.
(https://i.imgur.com/OJeWuNg.jpg)
Say hello... to Morpheus' son.
One thing to note is that the franchise has already done the "new black character related to the died-offscreen character from the previous film" with the Tank/Dozer -> Link transition.
We know Niobe is back.
Following back up on my notes about the Neo/Trinity romance not necessarily being center stage, I think it may be that a lost-his-way Morpheus Jr. takes the starring role, with Neo and Trinity possibly being more secondary/mentor roles.
This is all speculation based on very few tidbits and scraps from casting, but hey that's all we have right now. :P
Regarding The Animatrix/The Matrix Online, I accept that it's also just as likely Lana forgets all that shit and directly contradicts all of it six-ways-to-Sunday in the effort of telling what she thinks is a stronger story. We'll probably need to wait until the trailer to even begin speculating for real.
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One more thought, regarding Neo's return:
Theoretically, his body could have been alive at the end of Revolutions, and The Matrix Online showed how pissed Morpheus was that the Machines never gave the body back -- implying they were doing something weird with it.
The Matrix Online basically ended with the dissolution of the Truce and the end of Neo's peace. Knowing this, if MxO is canon (like I said, a big if), I could see the Machine logic going:
"The other humans caused the end of the Truce. Therefore, Neo's sacrifice no longer applies. Therefore, we will revive him, because as Machines we honor our word (or some shit.)" Neo's body has been re-tubed and his consciousness went back to the Source when The Architect rebooted The Matrix at the end of Revolutions (with Sati's help.) The slap them back together again, and bam, you have age-appropriate Keanu as Neo.
Just some thoughts...
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:neo
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imagine clicking the right page :lol
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Going off that image of neo riding bitch with trinity that leaked a lifetime ago I think we're gonna get something weird like Neo's consciousness is still alive in the matrix, but maybe asleep. I think we're gonna get a Matrix 1 again in a sense that it's gonna be trinity saving him again (maybe releasing him?) Also the matrix itself and the rules we know it runs by are gonna be different.
Basically what I'm saying is I hope we're all wrong, and I think we are, but that's okay because it's going to be beautiful and I love it already.
https://youtu.be/kBJq_isj_co
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoVX5oXUUAEtebv?format=png&name=900x900)
:neo
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Variety: "Warner Bros. to Debut Entire 2021 Film Slate, Including ‘Dune’ and ‘Matrix 4,’ Both on HBO Max and In Theaters" (https://variety.com/2020/film/news/warner-bros-hbo-max-theaters-dune-matrix-4-1234845342/?fbclid=IwAR1_2AzKPkOcUsRWnnvtts9A0gIwkZRxA4ahWCKRF1l4A77e302OE7wmLmg)
Damn that's gonna be a tough choice for me for where to watch The Matrix 4... 🤔
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They better hurry up with the European HBO Max release before the movie theaters are shuttered.
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They better hurry up with the European HBO Max release before the movie theaters are shuttered.
HBO Max is currently only operational in the US but launches in parts of Europe and Latin America next year.
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Yall ever heard of torrents
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Yall ever heard of torrents
Support artists and writers. (https://i.imgur.com/1DV64.gif)
spoiler (click to show/hide)
I fucking hate AT&T with every fiber of my being though. :rage
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Yall ever heard of torrents
That shit is usually compressed to hell and back. Decent enough for 30 - 40 minute TV shows but not suitable for a decent film viewing experience.
MATRIX4_DESTROYERCOCK_PRESENTS_ENG_FR_4K_HDR_WEBDOWNLOAD - 5GB
Physical 4K HDR Blu-Ray >>> *
But a good 4K / HDR / Dolby Vision stream is acceptable too.
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Oh yeah I dont even have a 4k tv so fuck all that
Just dl a 1080p webrip and im good. Im not gonna count the individual pixels or nuttin :lol
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At least he’s not using a phone.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wKiIroiCvZ0
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoVX5oXUUAEtebv?format=png&name=900x900)
:neo
I saw the teaser, brehs it's real :mjcry
The first real media for a new The Matrix movie (by original crew) :mjcry
In my lifetime :mjcry
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send me a link
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Yall ever heard of torrents
That shit is usually compressed to hell and back. Decent enough for 30 - 40 minute TV shows but not suitable for a decent film viewing experience.
MATRIX4_DESTROYERCOCK_PRESENTS_ENG_FR_4K_HDR_WEBDOWNLOAD - 5GB
Physical 4K HDR Blu-Ray >>> *
But a good 4K / HDR / Dolby Vision stream is acceptable too.
::)
(https://i.imgur.com/IQ3doRd.png) :pimp
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Chouonsoku the Fentanyl Pirate
:juche
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send me a link
Sorry, to clarify: that logo is what I'm referring to as "the first real media."
But it's still real to me, damnit! :doge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBxppYsRaUM
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(https://i.imgur.com/hDj8lKb.jpg)
Will we ever see him again?
(https://i.imgur.com/GoxK8XP.jpg)
I suspect so.
(https://i.imgur.com/gyhEUO9.gif)
Someday.
(https://i.imgur.com/NVZT8sM.jpg)
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Yall ever heard of torrents
That shit is usually compressed to hell and back. Decent enough for 30 - 40 minute TV shows but not suitable for a decent film viewing experience.
MATRIX4_DESTROYERCOCK_PRESENTS_ENG_FR_4K_HDR_WEBDOWNLOAD - 5GB
Physical 4K HDR Blu-Ray >>> *
But a good 4K / HDR / Dolby Vision stream is acceptable too.
::)
(https://i.imgur.com/IQ3doRd.png) :pimp
hdbits :pimp
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwGuSPXPyX4
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https://twitter.com/hiperbou/status/1334613385749606403
:neo
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ALSO I DIDN'T REALIZE THE RELEASE DATE GOT MOVED UP TO DECEMBER AHHHHHH :gladbron
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Calling it, the teaser will be released on March 31st.
The 22nd anniversary of The Matrix.
(https://i.imgur.com/GIxmve8.gif)
If there is a different/final name for the movie we'll get it that day too. :lawd
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The Matrix Regurgitated
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doxxed n rebooted 8)
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The 22nd anniversary of The Matrix.
:whatisthis :engel
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/65zUoOU09HL3uUKokQ/200.gif)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM-FU5ix9IQ
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I'm rewatching Reloaded AGAIN brehs :lawd
Morpheus just samurai-sliced the Twins' car :gladbron
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#LetMorpheusBeFat
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I'm rewatching Reloaded AGAIN brehs :lawd
Morpheus just samurai-sliced the Twins' car :gladbron
(https://i.imgur.com/hEkeWhh.gif)
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I'm rewatching Reloaded AGAIN brehs :lawd
Morpheus just samurai-sliced the Twins' car :gladbron
(https://i.imgur.com/hEkeWhh.gif)
We thought it was cool in 2002, but of course now we recognize that this is highly problematic appropriation of Japanese culture. :wag
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Because it's anime AF.
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I'm rewatching Reloaded AGAIN brehs :lawd
Morpheus just samurai-sliced the Twins' car :gladbron
(https://i.imgur.com/hEkeWhh.gif)
Heard the music in my head as it played :lawd
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(https://i.imgur.com/FJQlz67.gif)
This is a war, and we are soldiers.
(https://i.imgur.com/atD5BsS.gif)
Death can come for us at any time, in any place.
(https://i.imgur.com/q0Ablme.gif)
Now consider the alternative. What if I am right?
(https://i.imgur.com/ZhE2pJy.gif)
What if the prophecy is true?
(https://i.imgur.com/WRMlPIC.gif)
What if tomorrow the war could be over?
(https://i.imgur.com/SNKbQLl.gif)
Isn't that worth fighting for?
(https://i.imgur.com/fCawXyF.gif)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4Mw0b1-7fc
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDkAGkd4NLc
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FCzIlbBjvk
Rocco cracked this whole shit wide open over 6 years ago. :ohhh
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Neo IS The Matrix after being assimilated by Smith :whoah
Sati's sunset was actually him looking back at them, "Will we see him again" (Oracle looks at sunset) "I suspect so" :ohhh
I had no idea about the bench plaque until now, 17 years after release. WHAT THE FUCK
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God bless all forms of intelligence.
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that bench thing is fucking with my head right now :existential
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#LetMorpheusBeFat
#Morepheus
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https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/kv08a3/matrix_4_filming_in_downtown_san_francisco/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/kv08a3/matrix_4_filming_in_downtown_san_francisco/)
Reddit got a clip of it.
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MUST RESIST :tocry
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MUST RESIST :tocry
Ehhh it's just from filming, not a real spoiler etc
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https://variety.com/2021/tv/podcasts/911-lone-star-gina-torres-rob-lowe-suits-meghan-markle-matrix-1234885214/
Not to be bitter or anything, but the people that are actually in the movie, I believe died. And the people that aren’t didn’t. So that’s all I have to say about that. I’m so curious about where they’re going with this. And what’s their jumping off point and what story they want because it just felt like they told it.
What do you know Gina 👀
WHAT DO YOU KNOW :rage
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Except the Dutch
he said intelligence :snob
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https://screenrant.com/matrix-4-title-change-logo/
New logo!!!
:P
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I miss The Matrix. :(
I miss toku :(
filler and sometimes Cats are my only comforts these days :'(
(https://i.imgur.com/rcvccIf.gif)
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will we see toku da gawd again?
I suspect so 8)
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Why do you find it so hard to believe?
Why do you find it so easy?!
IT'S NEVER BEEN EASY!
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https://youtu.be/QGbrsj_odwU
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https://youtu.be/QGbrsj_odwU
Variety: Priyanka Chopra Jonas Talks ‘The White Tiger’ and ‘The Matrix 4’ (https://variety.com/2021/film/features/priyanka-chopra-jonas-white-tiger-inspirations-matrix-4-1234884035/)
(https://i.imgur.com/Wdb1sDil.png)
In “The Matrix 4,” will we get to see you frozen in the air and kicking someone in the face?
[Laughs] No. I can’t say much, but she’s something you don’t expect. What I can say is I finished filming and it was the first movie I did after lockdown and I’ve never felt safer on a set.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGTZoQwkcnY
:thinking
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:drudge WE GOT A POTENTIAL TITLE LEAK :drudge
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://www.engadget.com/matrix-resurrections-name-matrix-4-091250445.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esqVw9nky54
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The Matrix: :reeeee
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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/warner-bros-legendary-nearing-deal-to-resolve-clash-over-godzilla-vs-kong-exclusive
If Warners gives Dune an exclusive release, that could set a precedent allowing others, such as Matrix 4 filmmaker Lana Wachowski, to demand similar treatment. As talks continue, it is unclear whether Warner Media will be able to hold the line on its day-and-date strategy to bolster its streaming service. Wachowski is said to be adamant about an exclusive theatrical run.
:hmm
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WW cemented my feelings that day-and-date is better than theatrical releases. A lot of TV shows are better than movies at this point and those are like 15$ a month for a bunch.
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WW cemented my feelings that day-and-date is better than theatrical releases. A lot of TV shows are better than movies at this point and those are like 15$ a month for a bunch.
Maybe in the pure entertainment sphere that's a reasonable statement, but the auteur/art-house one, is still light years behind on television.
Great artsy cinema still comes out, despite cunts like Disney hoarding every fucking screen for their shit.
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I want to say there's an opening for a single, unified "Netflix of indie cinema," but for all I know one or several could already exist and I don't know about them because like most people I talk more about arthouse cinema than I actually care about it. :doge
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I want to say there's an opening for a single, unified "Netflix of indie cinema," but for all I know one or several could already exist and I don't know about them because like most people I talk more about arthouse cinema than I actually care about it. :doge
I'm not sure where the definition of art-house begins and ends, but if i think about the type of movies i love, i don't think we've seen much of that kind of stuff on TV.
You have weirder things being produced here and there, like Milch's shows, or some one shot mini series (Fanny & Alexander is technically TV!), but you can probably count them on two hands.
Most TV, even when it's great, it's Breaking Bad kind of great; which is to say pulpy entertainment.
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https://twitter.com/Einies_/status/1355712981183705089
Wtf Rocco predicted the title 6 years ago :dead
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Who couldnt predict that title tbh 🤷🏼♂️
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he should sue :lol
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The Matrix: :reeeee
or Re: The Matrix. still waiting to see who'll be the first western megafranchise to finally drag hidebound western cinema into the 21st century and adopt Tetsuya Nomura naming habitus.
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The Matrix: :reeeee
or Re: The Matrix. still waiting to see who'll be the first western megafranchise to finally drag hidebound western cinema into the 21st century and adopt Tetsuya Nomura naming habitus.
Nolan
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The Matrix: :reeeee
or Re: The Matrix. still waiting to see who'll be the first western megafranchise to finally drag hidebound western cinema into the 21st century and adopt Tetsuya Nomura naming habitus.
Nolan
Every Nolan movie that isn't Batman has a single word title, so probably not.
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The Matrix: :reeeee
or Re: The Matrix. still waiting to see who'll be the first western megafranchise to finally drag hidebound western cinema into the 21st century and adopt Tetsuya Nomura naming habitus.
Nolan
Every Nolan movie that isn't Batman has a single word title, so probably not.
FACT CHECK
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The Matrix: :reeeee
or Re: The Matrix. still waiting to see who'll be the first western megafranchise to finally drag hidebound western cinema into the 21st century and adopt Tetsuya Nomura naming habitus.
Nolan
Every Nolan movie that isn't Batman has a single word title, so probably not.
FACT CHECK
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Prestige, The
:bolo
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I'm waiting for Disney to use "+" in their movie titles.
Captain America+
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all I care about is the fuckin Matrix holy shit
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The Matrix Resurrections is a dope name and it will heal this world.
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https://twitter.com/headexposure/status/1361716661414412290
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https://twitter.com/HeadExposure/status/1361717605053181958
:crazy
I've gone through the Reloaded and Revolutions extra on-disc material so many times but I don't think I ever saw this clip.
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https://twitter.com/HeadExposure/status/1361719830156611584
I think most of this stuff might have been because Bill Pope's amazing direction with the camera, but who The Wachowskis have always been hands-on with their fight scenes too... In any case that's just great film direction.
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My question is more philosophical in regards to the fight scene (which is beautifully executed indeed).
Cant Neo just bend those weapons? Isnt it that the spoon isnt bending, its you, making it so he can do all these things.
Ofcourse after he assimilated Agent Smith at the end of 1, I cant even be sure what extra powers he got, but I know he was able to see The Matrix for what it was, just lines of code.
If he sees The Matrix as lines of code, couldnt he rewrite or impact them in some way, making it so they could never harm him with those weapons?
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Why doesn't Neo just fly to Mount Doom?
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https://twitter.com/HeadExposure/status/1361717762259902477
Wait... Chen was a dude? :o I legit always thought that was the token girl warrior in Merv's lineup :lol My whole world needs to be reoriented...
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My opinions, having over-thought this shit for almost 20 years:
Cant Neo just bend those weapons? Isnt it that the spoon isnt bending, its you, making it so he can do all these things.
My interpretation of the whole trilogy is that even though Neo became The One at the end of the first film, and could do things like stop bullets, fly, and "destroy" Agents, he wasn't at the height of his powers yet.
The One that Morpheus talks about seems like he could change literally everything in The Matrix on the code level, and Neo in the films doesn't come close to that. I wish Reloaded/Revolutions leaned more into the idea Neo is still on a journey instead of "Nope, he's the One now, no more powers or growth."
The other thing to consider is that the story of The One that Morpheus believes... might not be true. It's possible The Oracle lied to him to make the plots of the movies happen (and thus achieving true peace.) Maybe The One isn't a god in the Matrix, but Human++? The Oracle is well aware of the five previous "Ones" by the time Morpheus comes around, and all five of them represented another system of control.
Ofcourse after he assimilated Agent Smith at the end of 1, I cant even be sure what extra powers he got, but I know he was able to see The Matrix for what it was, just lines of code.
I don't think blasting Smith conferred any new power, but that's just my opinion and we probably don't know for sure.
If he sees The Matrix as lines of code, couldnt he rewrite or impact them in some way, making it so they could never harm him with those weapons?
Seeing code is different from being able to change it. I could go look up the Linux source code right now but ask me to do something specific and I'll likely have no clue without lots of research (or training, in Neo's case.) It would have been cool to maybe have a scene of him in Reloaded trying to mess with the code of the Matrix and it backfiring ("Oh shit, I just gave Deja Vu Cat an extra tail!")
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(https://i.imgur.com/sBFmXSD.jpg)
Dunno if anyone picked up on this, but RAINBOW code. :o Wonder if this is a tip to the final marketing...
Also the name was so obvious that WB registered a (similar) domain over a decade ago:
The domain matrixresurrection.com was registered by Warner Bros. in April 2009 and redirects to a Warner Bros. landing page.
I firmly hope/believe the final title will be plural though, to fit with Revolutions.
https://twitter.com/rob_keyes/status/1355877833197953025
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I didn't notice it at the time, but I think it's pretty funny now that the guy who betrayed everyone in The Matrix was named Reagan.
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Wachowskis have always been needling conservatives lol. :P
Speaking of, apparently Joey Pants texted Lana about being in Matrix 4 since everyone else is coming back to life, and she never texted him back. :doge Real professional...
https://www.slashfilm.com/joe-pantoliano-bid-the-matrix-4-cast/
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My opinions, having over-thought this shit for almost 20 years:
Cant Neo just bend those weapons? Isnt it that the spoon isnt bending, its you, making it so he can do all these things.
My interpretation of the whole trilogy is that even though Neo became The One at the end of the first film, and could do things like stop bullets, fly, and "destroy" Agents, he wasn't at the height of his powers yet.
The One that Morpheus talks about seems like he could change literally everything in The Matrix on the code level, and Neo in the films doesn't come close to that. I wish Reloaded/Revolutions leaned more into the idea Neo is still on a journey instead of "Nope, he's the One now, no more powers or growth."
The other thing to consider is that the story of The One that Morpheus believes... might not be true. It's possible The Oracle lied to him to make the plots of the movies happen (and thus achieving true peace.) Maybe The One isn't a god in the Matrix, but Human++? The Oracle is well aware of the five previous "Ones" by the time Morpheus comes around, and all five of them represented another system of control.
Ofcourse after he assimilated Agent Smith at the end of 1, I cant even be sure what extra powers he got, but I know he was able to see The Matrix for what it was, just lines of code.
I don't think blasting Smith conferred any new power, but that's just my opinion and we probably don't know for sure.
If he sees The Matrix as lines of code, couldnt he rewrite or impact them in some way, making it so they could never harm him with those weapons?
Seeing code is different from being able to change it. I could go look up the Linux source code right now but ask me to do something specific and I'll likely have no clue without lots of research (or training, in Neo's case.) It would have been cool to maybe have a scene of him in Reloaded trying to mess with the code of the Matrix and it backfiring ("Oh shit, I just gave Deja Vu Cat an extra tail!")
One idea I had for resurrections is what if because of neos actions there were more like him now. Human++ like you said. I think one of the themes in pretty much every thing the Wachowskis has done is that progress comes in inches, not miles. That we lay groundwork for those that come after us and that’s the beautiful and hard thing about it. Racer X had to do what he did so Speed can do what he does. Cloud Atlas takes this to the extreme and has probably the most explicit examples.
I think matrix online kinda played with this as well.
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Cloud Atlas is definitely the culmination of that philosophy. What a majestic film.
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Really hope they somehow keep MxO canon.
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https://twitter.com/Rafi66616/status/1357619048901709824
Pretty amazing all the anti-conservative and pro-LGBT elements in the original trilogy just wooshed past people.
Ugh now I need to start mentally preparing for another "pro/anti-SJW" campaign for yet another film :fbm
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Or you could just enjoy the movie and not give a shit about the worthless discourse surrounding it?
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Or you could just enjoy the movie and not give a shit about the worthless discourse surrounding it?
You know that's going to be fairly impossible. It'll be in news reports, in this thread, tweets embedded in news articles on sites I happen to read, family members commenting on the situation, friends wanting a discussion about it (even if just to say "fuck those people"), etc.
It's exhausting and unavoidable short of living alone in a Faraday cage.
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https://twitter.com/tylerthecreator/status/285670822264307712
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Ah yes, a famous tweet from 8+ years ago. You sure showed me.
Good job bowing to extremism and shunning nuance.
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I’m not showing you anything, bb. Just having a larf.
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Outrage is business, it's not going away soon, so tuning it out is the only solution.
Find a smaller bubble of sane people and ignore publications that bank on it.
But i agree it's near impossible to avoid and it ruined things.
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Outrage is business, it's not going away soon, so tuning it out is the only solution.
Find a smaller bubble of sane people and ignore publications that bank on it.
But i agree it's near impossible to avoid and it ruined things.
Agreed. And if this were a normal movie it'd be a lot easier.
However I'm seeing this movie as being the next Ghostbusters 2016 (purely in terms of pre-launch discussions/arguments, not commenting on the validity of either "side" or the quality of that movie itself.) You have a whole coagulation of "redpilled" Reddit edgelords and others who have co-opted various Matrix terminologies but still think of the film as "non-political, like the new one should be."
And you have Lana honing her skills over the years and using it to tell less abstract metaphors from her viewpoint.
Immovable object, meet unstoppable force. v_v
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Outrage is business, it's not going away soon, so tuning it out is the only solution.
Find a smaller bubble of sane people and ignore publications that bank on it.
But i agree it's near impossible to avoid and it ruined things.
Agreed. And if this were a normal movie it'd be a lot easier.
However I'm seeing this movie as being the next Ghostbusters 2016 (purely in terms of pre-launch discussions/arguments, not commenting on the validity of either "side" or the quality of that movie itself.) You have a whole coagulation of "redpilled" Reddit edgelords and others who have co-opted various Matrix terminologies but still think of the film as "non-political, like the new one should be."
And you have Lana honing her skills over the years and using it to tell less abstract metaphors from her viewpoint.
Immovable object, meet unstoppable force. v_v
Everyone has their Zack Snyder/JusticeLeagueSnyderCut you can do this. She’s going to buck all those wack crazy redpill conservative woke shit. It’s gonna be beautiful. We’re gonna cry.
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https://www.indiewire.com/2021/02/lana-wachowski-matrix-4-directing-style-1234617400/
Filming on “The Matrix 4” is complete, and according to Neil Patrick Harris it was unlike other Hollywood action tentpoles of its kind. In an interview with Variety, the actor detailed Lana Wachowski’s unconventional filmmaking approach to a major studio production. As Harris explained, “It didn’t feel large because it felt like she was in her sweet spot, which was filming on the fly, filming using natural light. Sometimes you’d sit around for an hour waiting for the clouds to clear, and then you’d quickly film.”
What Harris is describing sounds more like the production of “1917 or “The Revenant” and less like a studio franchise film. The actor continued, “You’d film pages at a time in 30 minutes and then be done. You would think that a giant movie would be 100% storyboarded, animatics, and we’d be checking off shots. I think she lived that before three times over, and I would suspect that she wants to do things her own way now. It wasn’t often that you felt that you were doing something gigantic because she made it feel very intimate.”
:ohhh This shit is gonna be crazy and different and a lot of fun to watch, I can already tell.
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NPH? wtf :lol
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I'm very intrigued. :thinking
Could it be that they adopted completely different filming styles for inside and outside the Matrix? I honestly can't imagine filming an action set piece that way, unless you're willing to risk the well being of your stunt/actors, but this isn't 80s China, so i doubt it. :lol
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NPH? wtf :lol
He was good in Gone Girl :trumps
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NPH? wtf :lol
He was good in Gone Girl :trumps
NPH is good in everything.
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I really think 4 is gonna have a big adventure vibe. Sense8 and Jupiter Ascending had that on the run constantly improvising energy and I really think this isn’t going to be anything we’re expecting. I’m really seeing neo in a more passive role and it’d be a great flip.
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They have enough cache in the industry that they could adapt anything they wanted, they even manage to make IP's like Speed Racer into good movies, but instead they make a a follow-up trilogy to a story that ended on a pretty conclusive note that doesn't really need a prequel or sequel.
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it's not a sequel, trashy. it's a resurrection 8)
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Choice.
The problem is choice.
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I really think 4 is gonna have a big adventure vibe. Sense8 and Jupiter Ascending had that on the run constantly improvising energy and I really think this isn’t going to be anything we’re expecting. I’m really seeing neo in a more passive role and it’d be a great flip.
I always thought the best sequel would have started from "Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely." Neo should be the villain -- or at least whatever portion of Smith he integrated has managed to influence his mentality into a takeover mode.
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Neo should wear a suit and shoot a bunch of people imo
This also works.
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Ok not going to lie, I was not excited for this, but with every thread bump, I anticipate it more.
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Ok not going to lie, I was not excited for this, but with every thread bump, I anticipate it more.
Your mind makes it real.
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i really need to watch jupiter ascending and speed racer. i enjoyed cloud atlas and love sense8. reloaded and revolutions really grew on me also. not a fan in my teens, but i honestly love them now.
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JA and S8 are the ones I still need to check out.
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i really need to watch jupiter ascending
It's complete garbage.
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Speed Racer is fantastic.
Jupiter Ascending, even i wouldn't defend, not only is not good in general, but it'a also extremely bland.
The only memorable part was a little Brazil nod, about galactic beaurocracy.
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Choice.
The problem is choice.
Freedom is not a reward or a decoration that you toast in champagne. On the contrary, it's hard graft and a long-distance run, all alone, very exhausting. At the end of every freedom there is a sentence, which is why freedom is too heavy to bear.
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Speed Racer is fantastic.
Jupiter Ascending, even i wouldn't defend, not only is not good in general, but it'a also extremely bland.
The only memorable part was a little Brazil nod, about galactic beaurocracy.
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https://youtu.be/FE42Xc_laYU
:lawd
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https://deadline.com/2021/08/matrix-4-trailer-unveiled-during-warner-bros-cinemacon-reel-1234821127/
No word yet as to when the trailer will hit social media — this was for the CinemaCon crowd only.
(https://i.imgur.com/3alxJTG.gif)
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Thanks man. :heart Hopefully it hits tomorrow morning...
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I'm lebowski here :)
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I'm lebowski here :)
🫂
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https://www.indiewire.com/2021/02/lana-wachowski-matrix-4-directing-style-1234617400/
Filming on “The Matrix 4” is complete, and according to Neil Patrick Harris it was unlike other Hollywood action tentpoles of its kind. In an interview with Variety, the actor detailed Lana Wachowski’s unconventional filmmaking approach to a major studio production. As Harris explained, “It didn’t feel large because it felt like she was in her sweet spot, which was filming on the fly, filming using natural light. Sometimes you’d sit around for an hour waiting for the clouds to clear, and then you’d quickly film.”
What Harris is describing sounds more like the production of “1917 or “The Revenant” and less like a studio franchise film. The actor continued, “You’d film pages at a time in 30 minutes and then be done. You would think that a giant movie would be 100% storyboarded, animatics, and we’d be checking off shots. I think she lived that before three times over, and I would suspect that she wants to do things her own way now. It wasn’t often that you felt that you were doing something gigantic because she made it feel very intimate.”
:ohhh This shit is gonna be crazy and different and a lot of fun to watch, I can already tell.
Sounds like "keep that cheddar from production" artistic view.
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https://twitter.com/nerdist/status/1430512565436784643 (https://twitter.com/nerdist/status/1430512565436784643)
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I don't get people who are nervous about this sequel.
Even if it's shit, everybody already hated Revolution and even Reloaded has plenty of haters.
Admittedly The Matrix was a perfectly fine stand alone film, but we've been past that for a minute.
Curious to see what they do regardless.
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https://twitter.com/nerdist/status/1430512565436784643 (https://twitter.com/nerdist/status/1430512565436784643)
Why couldn't they fucking reveal the name like Avengers Endgame
WB marketing is better than Sony's but only barely, Jesus
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Really feels like I'm about to snap this whole world in half because I don't have this trailer and other people got to see it.
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Really feels like I'm about to snap this whole world in half because I don't have this trailer and other people got to see it.
Really don't understand what the point in making a trailer exclusive to a single event is. :dizzy
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AND IT WAS SHOWN IN LAS VEGAS THE WEEK BEFORE I'M GOING TO VEGAS
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Nobody can be told what the trailer is and you can't see it for yourself either 😎
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Time to take the cyan(icide) pill :-\
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Time to take the cyan(icide) pill :-\
FTFY
…it's harder for me to believe that the trailer didn't LEAK afterward.
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The trailer has you 8)
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I watched someone describe the trailer, and i thought Lawrence Fishburne was coming back, since he was in the John Wick movies? It's odd that the only character who was left alive in the trilogy, is being recast, i wonder if that has something to do with anything.
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I watched someone describe the trailer, and i thought Lawrence Fishburne was coming back, since he was in the John Wick movies? It's odd that the only character who was left alive in the trilogy, is being recast, i wonder if that has something to do with anything.
He doesn't know why he wasn't asked to be in it, either:
https://www.indiewire.com/2021/06/laurence-fishburne-matrix-4-left-morpheus-out-1234647312/
Laurence Fishburne is at peace with all the questions he’s getting about “The Matrix 4,” despite the fact he was never invited to join the next installment of the iconic action franchise. Fishburne starred as Morpheus in the original “Matrix” trilogy. The actor’s co-stars Keanu Reeves and Carrie-Anne Moss are reprising their roles of Neo and Trinity in “The Matrix 4,” while supporting actors such as Jada Pinkett Smith and Lambert Wilson are also returning. Why not Fishburne? The actor has zero idea.
Fisburne recently told Collider when asked if he’s getting tired of being asked “Matrix 4” questions, “It would make sense that people would ask me that, so it doesn’t get old. I am not in the next ‘Matrix’ movie, and you’d have to ask Lana Wachowski why, because I don’t have an answer for that.”
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That's odd.
Maybe it really is related to the fact that Morpheus was the only one not dead in the trilogy. :thinking
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its kind of amazing that dude only just turned 60 :titus
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Maybe it's cuz Larry Fishburne is 300 pounds now
He can still log on in the matrix and have a different image of himself, while being 300 pounds in the real world. :ufup
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Morpheus being a pudgy old guy but still somehow kicking ass is part of the appeal of his character. He wasn't exactly slim during that highway Agent fight in Reloaded.
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Also please don't post unmarked trailer spoilers until the trailer is released. I would appreciate it a lot and I accept all mockery. Thank you.
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It's going to be a dumpster fire :hyper
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Will Smith wife comeback but no original Morpheus? :confused
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https://twitter.com/TheMatrixMovie/status/1435271648635068423 (https://twitter.com/TheMatrixMovie/status/1435271648635068423)
:hyper
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based 8)
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Day after tomorrow, same day as Sony's Playstation showcase, coincidence? I think not. ;)
Saw a couple of the leaked snippets from the trailer, i wont comment on those, out of respect for Tasty. :doge
My only wish for this movie is for them NOT to do a "remember this" wank fest, so i have low standards for it.
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https://youtu.be/wdskyfJtyt8
Full on sobbing right now 😭
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Day after tomorrow, same day as Sony's Playstation showcase, coincidence? I think not. ;)
Saw a couple of the leaked snippets from the trailer, i wont comment on those, out of respect for Tasty. :doge
My only wish for this movie is for them NOT to do a "remember this" wank fest, so i have low standards for it.
With that name is probably going to be a trip down memory lane. :doge
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Keanu's hair shared cinematic universe 8)
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I'll give this a chance but only because of Speed Racer
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Day after tomorrow, same day as Sony's Playstation showcase, coincidence? I think not. ;)
Saw a couple of the leaked snippets from the trailer, i wont comment on those, out of respect for Tasty. :doge
My only wish for this movie is for them NOT to do a "remember this" wank fest, so i have low standards for it.
With that name is probably going to be a trip down memory lane. :doge
It's the same world with the same actors (and, i assume, characters) so obviously i expect repetition of some elements and tropes, but i hope the story has something to add to the whole ordeal, and it isn't another Star Wars VII.
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There's a video floating around with a summary of the plot. Source has been correct on other movies.
All I can say is
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lol
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There's no higher indicator of quality than when a series reboots years later and resurrects the dead protagonist.
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Is the story about 3 hackers called Control, Alt and Delete that want to reset the Matrix? :neo
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The Matrix Rez-Erections
:rejoice
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCyrKJg-1VM
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I can't believe I'm going to wake up to a new Matrix trailer tomorrow. Holy shit it's almost finally here.
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Gonna be hard to sleep tonight ngl
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sleep on deez nutz 8)
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sleep on deez nutz 8)
Wru?
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jerking off to pics/vids of french girl azina :drool
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There's no higher indicator of quality than when a series reboots years later and resurrects the dead protagonist.
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jerking off to pics/vids of french girl azina :drool
I've got the rave scene on loop 😩
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Trinity's basically a guy :idont
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCyrKJg-1VM
Which one of those is Bronson Lee?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ix7TUGVYIo
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So glad I don't have to go to a theater to see this :rejoice
Looks to be better than the 2nd and 3rd ones, so that's good.
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Absolutely not what I wanted a Matrix 4 to look like lmao...
Sorry to say this looks like tired tropes and predictable shit.
Keanu looks terrible, I like his long hair for Johhny Silverhand and John Wick but cmon. Play a different guy once in awhile Keanu jesus.
No morpheus but fake morpeus lol
Oracle is back - but not really oracle
come with me if you want to live (???)
Looks too clean and not gritty enough
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Look decent, kinda looking forward to it
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WTF at dollar store Morpheus? :jeanluc
And that last line :yuck
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:rejoice
what happened to the other wachowski ???
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jerking off to pics/vids of french girl azina :drool
I've got the rave scene on loop 😩
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Trinity's basically a guy :idont
I was talking about valk. I wanted to breed her tight pussy :whew
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:rejoice
what happened to the other wachowski ???
Currently showrunning "Work in Progress" for Showtime, and she didn't want to go "backwards" creatively, which is respectable.
https://ew.com/movies/lilly-wachowski-explains-not-involved-the-matrix/
"That's a tough one," Lilly began. "I got out of my transition and was just completely exhausted because we had made Cloud Atlas and Jupiter Ascending, and the first season of Sense8 back-to-back-to-back. We were posting one, and prepping the other at the exact same time. So you're talking about three 100-plus days of shooting for each project, and so, coming out and just being completely exhausted, my world was like, falling apart to some extent even while I was like, you know, cracking out of my egg. So I needed this time away from this industry. I needed to reconnect with myself as an artist and I did that by going back to school and painting and stuff."
"[Lana] had come up with this idea for another Matrix movie, and we had this talk, and it was actually — we started talking about it in between [our] dad dying and [our] mom dying, which was like five weeks apart," Lilly said. "And there was something about the idea of going backward and being a part of something that I had done before that was expressly unappealing. And, like, I didn't want to have gone through my transition and gone through this massive upheaval in my life, the sense of loss from my mom and dad, to want to go back to something that I had done before, and sort of [walk] over old paths that I had walked in, felt emotionally unfulfilling, and really the opposite — like I was going to go back and live in these old shoes, in a way. And I didn't want to do that."
"And it felt like a new thing that I could go do and be myself in, more than go back and do the same thing that I sort of did before," Lilly said on Tuesday's panel. "And so, like Lana made [Matrix 4] for different reasons… I can't speak for her, but that's what I was feeling at the time."
Asked if the sibling pair have any future collaboration plans, Lilly left it up in the air.
"Who knows? Who knows? Maybe," she said.
Work in Progress season 2 currently airs Sundays at 11 p.m. on Showtime.
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Flashing back to 2002 when Reloaded's first trailer was released...
*doodly doodly doo/flashback sound*
Absolutely not what I wanted a Matrix 2 to look like lmao...
Sorry to say this looks like tired tropes and predictable shit.
Keanu looks terrible, I like his hair for Speed and Devil's Advocate but cmon. Play a different guy once in awhile Keanu jesus.
No tank or dozer but fake tank+dozer lol
Oracle is back - but not really oracle [ok this one's more for Revolutions lol]
Looks too clean and not gritty enough
:trumps
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:rejoice
what happened to the other wachowski ???
Currently showrunning "Work in Progress" for Showtime, and she didn't want to go "backwards" creatively, which is respectable.
https://ew.com/movies/lilly-wachowski-explains-not-involved-the-matrix/
"That's a tough one," Lilly began. "I got out of my transition and was just completely exhausted because we had made Cloud Atlas and Jupiter Ascending, and the first season of Sense8 back-to-back-to-back. We were posting one, and prepping the other at the exact same time. So you're talking about three 100-plus days of shooting for each project, and so, coming out and just being completely exhausted, my world was like, falling apart to some extent even while I was like, you know, cracking out of my egg. So I needed this time away from this industry. I needed to reconnect with myself as an artist and I did that by going back to school and painting and stuff."
"[Lana] had come up with this idea for another Matrix movie, and we had this talk, and it was actually — we started talking about it in between [our] dad dying and [our] mom dying, which was like five weeks apart," Lilly said. "And there was something about the idea of going backward and being a part of something that I had done before that was expressly unappealing. And, like, I didn't want to have gone through my transition and gone through this massive upheaval in my life, the sense of loss from my mom and dad, to want to go back to something that I had done before, and sort of [walk] over old paths that I had walked in, felt emotionally unfulfilling, and really the opposite — like I was going to go back and live in these old shoes, in a way. And I didn't want to do that."
"And it felt like a new thing that I could go do and be myself in, more than go back and do the same thing that I sort of did before," Lilly said on Tuesday's panel. "And so, like Lana made [Matrix 4] for different reasons… I can't speak for her, but that's what I was feeling at the time."
Asked if the sibling pair have any future collaboration plans, Lilly left it up in the air.
"Who knows? Who knows? Maybe," she said.
Work in Progress season 2 currently airs Sundays at 11 p.m. on Showtime.
:cac
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I really hope they handle this kind of plot better than Lost season 6 did, btw. The flash-sideways had a super weak ending. But I have more faith in a single Wachowski than Abrams, Cuse and Lindelof combined.
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Ugh dont remind me tasty of that mess 😂 (the last season, and maybe 5 really kinda sucked on Lost)
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holy fucking shit
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Ugh dont remind me tasty of that mess 😂 (the last season, and maybe 5 really kinda sucked on Lost)
Season 5 is secretly really good. :shh
But yeah S6 missed the mark.
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jerking off to pics/vids of french girl azina :drool
I've got the rave scene on loop 😩
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Trinity's basically a guy :idont
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlzI3_QADWc
:rock :rock :rock
Saw the trailer and it looked great (but like others said lacks the lo-fi grittiness of the original trilogy) but way too many re-treads. It almost looks more like a reboot of the original than the start of something new... unfortunately have reservations about it after hating the other Wachowski films (Cloud Atlas :yuck)
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More Matrix 1 than Matrix 3 vibes so that's good.
Fucking weird that in 2003 humanity had to be 'saved' from being stuck in 1999 forever. :tocry
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:rejoice
what happened to the other wachowski ???
Currently showrunning "Work in Progress" for Showtime, and she didn't want to go "backwards" creatively, which is respectable.
https://ew.com/movies/lilly-wachowski-explains-not-involved-the-matrix/
"That's a tough one," Lilly began. "I got out of my transition and was just completely exhausted because we had made Cloud Atlas and Jupiter Ascending, and the first season of Sense8 back-to-back-to-back. We were posting one, and prepping the other at the exact same time. So you're talking about three 100-plus days of shooting for each project, and so, coming out and just being completely exhausted, my world was like, falling apart to some extent even while I was like, you know, cracking out of my egg. So I needed this time away from this industry. I needed to reconnect with myself as an artist and I did that by going back to school and painting and stuff."
"[Lana] had come up with this idea for another Matrix movie, and we had this talk, and it was actually — we started talking about it in between [our] dad dying and [our] mom dying, which was like five weeks apart," Lilly said. "And there was something about the idea of going backward and being a part of something that I had done before that was expressly unappealing. And, like, I didn't want to have gone through my transition and gone through this massive upheaval in my life, the sense of loss from my mom and dad, to want to go back to something that I had done before, and sort of [walk] over old paths that I had walked in, felt emotionally unfulfilling, and really the opposite — like I was going to go back and live in these old shoes, in a way. And I didn't want to do that."
"And it felt like a new thing that I could go do and be myself in, more than go back and do the same thing that I sort of did before," Lilly said on Tuesday's panel. "And so, like Lana made [Matrix 4] for different reasons… I can't speak for her, but that's what I was feeling at the time."
Asked if the sibling pair have any future collaboration plans, Lilly left it up in the air.
"Who knows? Who knows? Maybe," she said.
Work in Progress season 2 currently airs Sundays at 11 p.m. on Showtime.
I guess she can't go ahead and say "making a fourth Matrix movie is a shitty idea" without throwing her sister under the bus, so this is her way of saying it without saying it.
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So the online storyline is still canon?
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There's a video floating around with a summary of the plot. Source has been correct on other movies.
All I can say is
spoiler (click to show/hide)
lol
Link?
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jerking off to pics/vids of french girl azina :drool
I've got the rave scene on loop 😩
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Trinity's basically a guy :idont
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlzI3_QADWc
:rock :rock :rock
Saw the trailer and it looked great (but like others said lacks the lo-fi grittiness of the original trilogy) but way too many re-treads. It almost looks more like a reboot of the original than the start of something new... unfortunately have reservations about it after hating the other Wachowski films (Cloud Atlas :yuck)
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that stupid baby talk was the worst :heh
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ix7TUGVYIo
watched this 3 times now. only gets more and more incredible :rejoice yung morpheus was cast well, fuck the haters and the losers :trumps
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So the online storyline is still canon?
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toku come back :stahp
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Well. The Force Awakens, Matrix edition it is indeed :lol
There's a video floating around with a summary of the plot. Source has been correct on other movies.
All I can say is
spoiler (click to show/hide)
lol
Link?
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgjhPczl4o0
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jesus, lol
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Well. The Force Awakens, Matrix edition it is indeed :lol
I have more faith in a single Wachowski than Abrams, Cuse and Lindelof combined.
:trumps
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Those brass notes at the end.
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A Matrix TV show would've made more sense in 2021 :trumps
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Well. The Force Awakens, Matrix edition it is indeed :lol
I have more faith in a single Wachowski than Abrams, Cuse and Lindelof combined.
:trumps
As far as I'm concerned they're all pretty similar. The rare good stuff, a vast majority of utter garbage :yeshrug
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Blue
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Red
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"This Matrix isn't gritty" :derp"
Real Matrix enjoyers understand that the Matrix got 'darker' as Smith tried to take it over. At the end of the trilogy Sati creates a new sun rise to honor Neo and asks the Oracle if they will see him again.
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Looks very different, which is something i like.
I'm very intrigued and i liked the trailer a lot.
I'm happy they're not just doing a more of the same thing, and that they dropped the green tint.
Hopefully it's actually good, with the Wachowski, could go either way. :lol
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I liked Cloud Atlas it was a fun movie.
Haven't seen it in a while though and I suppose there's no 4K remaster either.
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that stupid baby talk was the worst :heh
Maybe 2% of the dialogue of the overall film, but ok...
Cloud Atlas is a triumph :bolo
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dat tru tru, bb :P
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Gonna be weird hearing those brass notes over the new WB logo and not the old one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkWGE6_KN3Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf4R14biBTE
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a slow sad orchestral version of Evanescence’s “Bring Me to Life” would have broke the internet :lawd
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:lol
Everyone would have hated it, but I would have loved it. :lol
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there was a small messageboard I used to troll in the mid 2000s that was run by a bunch of evanescence fans :neogaf
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i was one of the mods you goddamn son of a bitch >:(
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the midnight oil board :)
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a slow sad orchestral version of Evanescence’s “Bring Me to Life” would have broke the internet :lawd
https://tubedubber.com/?q=9ix7TUGVYIo:iwlxeGSkiXE:0:100:0:35:0
It works. :idont
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Holy shit that works REALLY well. :lol It even cuts at the right points for certain lyrics. I might actually upload this idea to YT. :lol
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stealing toku's idea from twitter and gaining massive likes :rejoice
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Toku should be posting them here if they want the likes! :birdman
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watched the spoiler vid 8) da matrix is back, baybee :playa
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Toku should be posting them here if they want the likes! :birdman
toku has freed himself from the boretrix :pimp
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I keep getting reinserted like Cypher. 8)
The Bore = ignorance = bliss :lawd
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Cyberpunk Matrix :dice
https://tubedubber.com/?q=9ix7TUGVYIo:AGsjA1pXajk:0:100:0:0:1 (https://tubedubber.com/?q=9ix7TUGVYIo:AGsjA1pXajk:0:100:0:0:1)
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This is perfect
https://tubedubber.com/?q=9ix7TUGVYIo:BLZWkjBXfN8:0:100:0:0:1 (https://tubedubber.com/?q=9ix7TUGVYIo:BLZWkjBXfN8:0:100:0:0:1)
:lawd
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:lol
this emo chit :neogaf
just play dragular for the trailer and the entire sound track :rash
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Couple things I noticed in the trailer:
- Neo after he "wakes"/remembers doesn't have all his powers yet, or at least not at full strength -- could be an Act 1 thing, or an overall runtime thing
- It seems like the "new" Zion crew (blue hair lady, fake Morpheus) have the ability to use any large-enough reflective surface as a "doorway," similar to the doors leading to the white hallway in Reloaded (this is also a clear callback to Neo's awakening in the first film, when the mirror goes down his throat while dial-up noises play)
- Yellow code going *up* during the logo transition at the end, possibly symbolizing uploading or "resurrection"
- I have a theory that Neo's consciousness and/or body are alive, but Trinity really is dead and this is just an "echo" or part of some larger scheme for luring Neo back out (you can see green code going up her neck in one shot)
- I think this movie will be about Neo accepting Trinity's death in Revolutions, finally freeing himself of his final earthly attachment, and attaining true enlightenment as he dies (for real) -- hoping he'll be reunited with the real Trinity in death, finally
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Also, nothing I've seen so far contradicts The Matrix Online. Doesn't mean the final film won't, but here's hoping they keep it canon. 🤞
Edit- In fact, not having Morpheus or Smith reinforces it a little.
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I'm more leaning towards Morpheus being a program trying to 'reactivate' Neo and Trinity to fight a new threat.
In the original trilogy the Oracle was a program as well.
I wonder if they will start calling them 'apps' instead of programs.
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Sure looked to me that they were watching Mouse on the screen in a quick cut, possibly watching a clip from the first film.
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:delicious
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:crazy Revolutions continuity confirmed :rejoice
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuIH43hsp6s
"Nothing ever goes just right... especially not peace."
"Why won't they give up his remains?!"
Why indeed, Morpheus...
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I thought it looked and sounded pretty lame to be honest.
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I thought it looked and sounded pretty lame to be honest.
You are also notoriously hard to please.
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Some more thoughts...
- I definitely think the Machines are the ones resurrecting Neo, and I think it may be to develop some kind of counter-One code so they can go back to their old ways
- I also think the nu-Zion crew we’ve seen so far might be programs working for the Machine’s ends.
- On the other hand, I also think that "Morpheus" is actually Morpheus Jr., basically just his son he might have had with Niobe (who we know is in the film)
- On the other other hand, there’s apparently clips from the original trilogy playing in a room in the trailer, so we might be in for some kind of meta-fuckery that I doubt the trailers will hint much further at
- My friend had a theory this may take place hundreds of years in the future, which dovetails nicely with another theory I had. We see the Machines operating on Neo’s body from the end of Revolutions (scarred eyes), but we also see Neo waking up in a new pod (no scarred eyes.) Maybe they transferred his mind to an identical body? Hmm...
Lots to think about with this one trailer! I love The Matrix. :D
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:)
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The machines have become more human than human but they still are not able to dig through the ditches nor burn through the witches.
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The machines discover that nuclear energy is far more secure and efficient than harvesting miles and miles of humans in tubes, and there's no need for the Matrix at all.
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The machines discover that if they create a neverending 2016 Donald Trump election campaign humans are too busy and distracted to find out the truth.
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Some more thoughts...
- I definitely think the Machines are the ones resurrecting Neo, and I think it may be to develop some kind of counter-One code so they can go back to their old ways
- I also think the nu-Zion crew we’ve seen so far might be programs working for the Machine’s ends.
- On the other hand, I also think that "Morpheus" is actually Morpheus Jr., basically just his son he might have had with Niobe (who we know is in the film)
- On the other other hand, there’s apparently clips from the original trilogy playing in a room in the trailer, so we might be in for some kind of meta-fuckery that I doubt the trailers will hint much further at
- My friend had a theory this may take place hundreds of years in the future, which dovetails nicely with another theory I had. We see the Machines operating on Neo’s body from the end of Revolutions (scarred eyes), but we also see Neo waking up in a new pod (no scarred eyes.) Maybe they transferred his mind to an identical body? Hmm...
Lots to think about with this one trailer! I love The Matrix. :D
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Yeah given the direction The Wachowskis have been in the last decade (Cloud Atlas, Sense8, JA) I think it's gonna be some simulation within a simulation fuckery. Machines kept Neo's body and were probably curious how this human was able to do what he did (broker peace, defeat smith and just give himself to them). I think new morpheous is a machine but I don't think it'll be as clean/clear that he works for them. If its far enough in the future I could see them having some machines actually split and develop their own consciousness/individuality because of what neo did. So we'd get that sort of radical humanism and individuality shit that Cloud Atlas was touching on but Sense8 really leaned into but now we get it from "machines."
Not back just saying love you guys, bless up. Matrix forever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04bObpfTkSQ
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been hot for Carrie-Ann Moss for 20 years :'( everyone in this new trailer looks so gorgeous though christ. Sad no Laurence Fishburne and I'm still pulling for a cameo or something but Yahya looks good. Handsome man.
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toku resurrections :heart
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toku!!!! :heartbeat
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3wiIY3fkrY
Rocco picked up on the exact same theories I am! :o (Machines resurrecting Neo, nu-Zion crew maybe working for Machines.) And he's just as hyped to see the shot of Revolutions-Neo as me. :D
He also points out it's Trinity in the pod, not a new Neo. Oops. :P
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looking again is it just me or do a couple of those doubles not look like Trinity? Maybe someone is riding her image like an avatar? Nu-Zion trying to full Neo into re-awakening or something using his emotional connection to her? What if there is no new zion and this is all just a splinter faction of machines trying to get things going again
peace
bless up
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Yes, it's not Carrie Ann Moss in a couple of those, but it's probably like Neo looking in the mirror and seeing some bald old guy, or Morpheus being some young guy.
Some fuckery going on.
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Yeah given the direction The Wachowskis have been in the last decade (Cloud Atlas, Sense8, JA) I think it's gonna be some simulation within a simulation fuckery.
I realized last night this could be a situation like Buffy the Vampire Slayer's "Normal Again," where Buffy is pierced with demon venom and wakes up in a mental hospital with her mom and dad still alive (and married), being told Sunnydale and being the Slayer was just a delusion.
At the end of the episode, Buffy chooses Sunnydale (so the series can continue), but in a scene that shouldn't exist, the last thing we fade out on is Buffy catatonic and locked away.
Maybe "Thomas Anderson" in "the real world"/The New Matrix is being told he's just another aging hipster with delusions of being this guy "The One" from that old movie "The Matrix." Take your pills and don't dwell on it, Tom buddy.
But in the film's reality he IS The One from The Matrix.
It could work. :thinking
Machines kept Neo's body and were probably curious how this human was able to do what he did (broker peace, defeat smith and just give himself to them). I think new morpheous is a machine but I don't think it'll be as clean/clear that he works for them.
All good points I agree with.
If its far enough in the future I could see them having some machines actually split and develop their own consciousness/individuality because of what neo did. So we'd get that sort of radical humanism and individuality shit that Cloud Atlas was touching on but Sense8 really leaned into but now we get it from "machines."
:o Never considered that! I guess it depends on how much they want to humanize the Machines, but on second thought, Wachowskis are all about humanization and empathy... Plus, they literally gave the Machines a baby human face in the last one lol.
Not back just saying love you guys, bless up. Matrix forever.
Bless Up Forever 8)
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looking again is it just me or do a couple of those doubles not look like Trinity? Maybe someone is riding her image like an avatar? Nu-Zion trying to full Neo into re-awakening or something using his emotional connection to her? What if there is no new zion and this is all just a splinter faction of machines trying to get things going again
peace
bless up
:thinking
I kinda see it but some of them do seem like her. The trailer is trying to make us think this is her "getting her memories" back, but any number of things could be transpiring.
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Yes, it's not Carrie Ann Moss in a couple of those, but it's probably like Neo looking in the mirror and seeing some bald old guy, or Morpheus being some young guy.
Some fuckery going on.
Wachowski fuckery :rejoice
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okay last one, someone on twitter mentioned that the old man neo in the mirror kinda looked like current age hugo weaving. So what if Neos consciousness is strapped over Smith's inside the matrix? Idk why they'd do that or maybe it's Agent Smith thinking he's Neo? Maybe he didn't get overwritten and destroyed completely at the end of Revolutions but actually became what he despised lol.
Okay bless up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H3HjMLxKXs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orXDu3Stb-c
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I *kinda* see it but I think it's just as likely it's someone else.
We do know Hugo was asked back but couldn't make it, unlike Laurence who wasn't asked back. Maybe he was able to find time to get in front of a green screen for an hour or two?
One thing I thought of is that maybe Neo doesn't see himself as Neo while he's bluepilled (Keanu being there for the audience's sake), and that mirror is showing him that form is an illusion and he really DOES look like Neo from that movie The Matrix.
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That's probably the likely scenario.
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Neo = Thesis
Smith = Antithesis
Resurrections Neo = Synthesis
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Thinking about it some more, the fourth wall wouldn't be broken, technically, if my theory is true.
Basically, the Machines are making up a new Matrix to trap Neo in. It looks like 2030s San Francisco. In this world, the movie "The Matrix" exists. The Machines created a fictional movie based on Neo’s actual exploits – it just happens to match up 100% with our world's film The Matrix.
Everything about the old films still happens. The blue world Desert of the Real is still, in-canon, the real reality. But it lets them put clips from the older movies in the new one.
We'll see...
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watching the spoiler vid and then reading speculation :delicious
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after closely examining every frame of video I believe neo is what they call in the matrix universe as "the one"
even more interesting is that trinity may in fact be "the two"
"the three" I believe is being saved for a possible sequel
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after closely examining every frame of video I believe neo is what they call in the matrix universe as "the one"
even more interesting is that trinity may in fact be "the two"
"the three" I believe is being saved for a possible sequel
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https://twitter.com/SouthLAHoods/status/1436440251396882435
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after closely examining every frame of video I believe neo is what they call in the matrix universe as "the one"
even more interesting is that trinity may in fact be "the two"
"the three" I believe is being saved for a possible sequel
Ah, the ol' One-Two, eh? :punch
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the two because she's wit da shitz
trinity should be the three really :rollsafe
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did see a tweet or tik tok claiming they knew the plot and that ppl were gonna hate it because its exactly like Space Jam 2 and my first reaction was...that's exactly matrix tier shit? what do ppl expect but real world simulation shenanigans lol
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did see a tweet or tik tok claiming they knew the plot and that ppl were gonna hate it because its exactly like Space Jam 2 and my first reaction was...that's exactly matrix tier shit? what do ppl expect but real world simulation shenanigans lol
Can't wait for the sublime Grammy and Gonzalez scene to grace this film, in the most epic promotional crossover ever. :delicious
#SharedUniverse #WarnerSerververse #influencer #paidpromotion
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"I've had dreams that aren't just dreams. Does that make me crazy?"
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"You have the sight now, Neo. You are looking at the world without time."
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did see a tweet or tik tok claiming they knew the plot and that ppl were gonna hate it because its exactly like Space Jam 2 and my first reaction was...that's exactly matrix tier shit? what do ppl expect but real world simulation shenanigans lol
They replaced Morpheus with Lebron?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdjFeTfQth0
Second Renaissance gets all the praise (as it should), but I really think my favorite short is Matriculated.
Beyond is a lot of fun too but a little short on story.
Never really cared for Kid's Story, maybe time to revisit it.
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Program is my favorite because I love Kawajiri but if I were to do idk a tales from the matrix tv show or something I'd want majority of the stories to be like Beyond and A Detective Story tonally. Weird adventures and then tragic stories when civilians run into zion rebels and programs. Been so long since I've seen it but I just realized "Matriculated" is basically what I was saying when I imagine some kinda pro-zion faction of the machines is gonna be part of the plot in Resurrection.
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I like the one where the girl goes in the fucked up glitched out house
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http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=25046.msg2938172#msg2938172
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https://twitter.com/allowedtohit/status/1437620038677241859
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Damn that’s rough :(
I don’t begrudge them going back to the well at all, even if it were a pure money and/or ends up being shit, not when it’s their own creation. They can do as they please and the original will still be there for you.
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https://twitter.com/allowedtohit/status/1437620038677241859
Interesting when compared to Lilly's response, where she said she basically just wanted to move on and not dwell on the past.
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It's a nice way of saying she didn't want to make a third-rate vestigial sequel just to capitalise on their most profitable IP.
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It's a nice way of saying she didn't want to make a third-rate vestigial sequel just to capitalise on their most profitable IP.
I think both answers and decisions are rooted in honest emotions.
WB was probably rubbing their grubby mitts together of course, but they've been trying and failing to reboot The Matrix since the late-00s if rumors are anything to go by. The fact they needed Lana to make it happen is enough for me to believe in the artistic integrity of The Matrix Resurrections.
I accept I could be wrong.
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I guess the cynic in me thinks this will be a Crystal Skull or Force Awakens, and not a Fury Road or Tron Legacy. The Matrix was campy as hell and very of-it's-time, I think audiences have changed too much. They can't be plugged back into The Matrix, their minds will reject it.
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Hope, it is the quintessential human delusion. Simultaneously the source of your greatest strength, and your greatest weakness.
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I sincerely enjoy everything the Wachowskis have done so far. I know Lana has that queer show on showtime, that's not for me so that's excluded. Resurrections looks and sounds like Sense8/Cloud Atlas/Jupiter Ascending Wachowski shit so I'm fairly confident I will enjoy it. All the building flipping stuff Jessica Henwick was doing looks straight out of JA which idk if anyone here mentioned because I know im the only weirdo who loves that movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcjj8s3hISU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm-NUzVCw-4
Also the guy who wrote the original Cloud Atlas novel has a writing credit on it so
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I thought it looked and sounded pretty lame to be honest.
You are also notoriously hard to please.
and you like everything unquestionably?
Not really. I like the Matrix sequels, even well before the internet caught up to me.
This just doesn't look, sound, or feel like the Matrix. Using white rabbit? Yeah that's not the Matrix. Carrie Anne Moss going super sayin looks stupid. Yeah this looks more like Juipiters Ascendinngs weird out there style then the cold and off feel of the other movies.
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maybe it doesn't feel like the matrix because it isn't supposed to 8)
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maybe it doesn't feel like the matrix because it isn't supposed to 8)
:neo
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I thought it looked and sounded pretty lame to be honest.
You are also notoriously hard to please.
and you like everything unquestionably?
Eh, I doubt that's my reputation, especially as far as movies go. But maybe?
Maybe that accusation was uncharitable. I apologize.
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I thought it looked like a return to form for the Matrix. Incredible teaser, the warmer grade being used where Neo's consciousness has been reinserted into the Matrix, my first thoughts were something like an AI or a collection of them are recreating his path to enlightenment and analysing it, Neo's pals want to reunite. The tide of war has been stemmed but a "free" humanity still hangs on the precipice....
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I sincerely enjoy everything the Wachowskis have done so far. I know Lana has that queer show on showtime, that's not for me so that's excluded. Resurrections looks and sounds like Sense8/Cloud Atlas/Jupiter Ascending Wachowski shit so I'm fairly confident I will enjoy it. All the building flipping stuff Jessica Henwick was doing looks straight out of JA which idk if anyone here mentioned because I know im the only weirdo who loves that movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcjj8s3hISU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm-NUzVCw-4
Also the guy who wrote the original Cloud Atlas novel has a writing credit on it so
JA was great. cloud atlas was eh, maybe I'll give a 4th try.
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I should watch JA. I can't imagine liking it better than Cloud Atlas.
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It's goofy but fun and charming like Speed Racer (maybe a little less heart). It kinda feels like the most straight forward Wachowski joint if you'll believe that. It's just a classic falling in love outside your class story with some anti-capitalism stuff on top. Ppl love to dog Eddie Redmayne's performance but I don't think it's bad acting...its intentional. He's essentially an immortal goth space vampire, what do the kids say? "He got the assignment."
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I love Cloud Atlas, still haven’t seen JA though, it was just one of those that fell by the wayside. I’ll have to change that sometime.
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(https://i.imgur.com/F3m4eBZ.gif)
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Best Wachowski movie is Speed Racer. Real heads know.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbToJ3PYcQE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRg9I8QIjnw
"We missed you."
:hesright
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Yasmin dyauh prthivi cantariksam otam
Manah saha pranais ca sarvaih tam
Evaikam janatha atmanam anya vacah
Vimuncatha amrtasya esah setuh
In him are woven the sky and the earth
and all the regions of the air, and in him
rest the mind and all the powers of life.
Know him as the ONE and leave aside all
other words. He is the bridge of
immortality.
:preach
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Read the summary. This movie sounds like garbage. The original movies were cool, took themselves seriously, stylish, philosophical, felt creepy, and so on.
This one sounds like current jokey and meta Hollywood crap. Written by a soccer mom who lost what being cool was.
It sounds like it was a mistake to bring this series back.
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Damn that’s rough :(
I don’t begrudge them going back to the well at all, even if it were a pure money and/or ends up being shit, not when it’s their own creation. They can do as they please and the original will still be there for you.
I am 90% positive I will enjoy this one more than “matrix: revolutions.“
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-0RHqDWcJE
- It's clear from the clip above, as well as every Neo fight in Reloaded, that after substantiating as The One, Neo has 360-degree sight in The Matrix. (He wouldn't last long in the Burly Brawl otherwise.) He doesn't even need his eyes in The Matrix, which is a good foreshadow for Revolutions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQGerZE3bhs
- I never noticed Neo does a front-flip when he lands on The Oracle's roof at the end of this clip.
- Both here and when Neo saves Trinity at the end of the movie, it's reaaaally obvious when they cut from CG to Keanu "landing" in a close-up shot. I dunno, it stands out to me now but it's pretty cool to see the filmmaking "seams" in a big budget film like this.
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I just want cringe hacker speak and bullet time stunts.
This will be right up my alley
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You’ll get a romance story about people in a coffee shop.
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Hey Rahx, not sure how I can make it any clearer:
NO SPOILERS
And this tee-hee joking around minor details does count. So knock it off.
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The spoilers doesn’t sound as bad as I thought. Then again, I still love Matrix Reloaded big twist, so...
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The spoilers doesn’t sound as bad as I thought. Then again, I still love Matrix Reloaded big twist, so...
See previous post.
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Speaking of Reloaded's ending, after rewatching last night I got to thinking...
There were five The Ones before Neo, but are those just the Ones that actually substantiated?
Like when Neo gets "killed" by Smith at the end of the first film, that would have been the end for Neo if Trinity hadn't made her confession.
Were there other "proto-Ones" that did get killed by Agents (or some other way), apart from the six "full" Ones we know about? :thinking Not that it would really impact the plot since they're dead, but I wonder if such a thing might be hinted at in the future.
If you think this is reading too much into what the Architect says, there was a similar situation regarding the "Paradise Matrix" and "Nightmare Matrix." The Architect mentions the first Matrix was a paradise, and then the following version was based on "human grotesqueries" before that one failed too.
The Matrix Online went on to obliquely confirm Paradise Matrix and Nightmare Matrix in some hard-to-find lore text. It's thought among fans that the Merovingian rescued his band of ghosts (Twins) and werewolves etc. from Nightmare Matrix.
https://matrix.fandom.com/wiki/Paradise_Matrix
https://matrix.fandom.com/wiki/Nightmare_Matrix
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Don't see how it's spoilers if they are in the official publically released trailer.
But also no wonder this doesn't look or sound like the Matrix.
No Don Davis music.
No Bill Pope cinematography.
No Yuen Woo-ping choreography. Whole movie sounds like bad fan-fiction made by those youtube people Curio.
But I bet we get jokey marvel humor. What a disaster.
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I was gonna post something similar. The major crew changes from the trilogy are the only thing giving me pause.
Especially Bill Pope and Don Davis. The trailer looking pretty good assuages the loss of Bill Pope somewhat, but rewatching the other films shows just how key Don Davis is to the whole thing. There are multiple scenes in Reloaded that just would not work without certain musical cues at specific points. In fact most of the time it feels like an action scene is designed around Davis' track for it than the other way around.
Keeping an open mind. New things can be just as good as old things.
But I bet we get jokey marvel humor. What a disaster.
Weren't you in the Dune trailer thread saying the same thing? Get a new concern-troll dude, this one's more tired than Marvel humor itself.
I also think you missed how deliberately cheesy a lot of the human exchanges were in the original trilogy already.
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It looks very Matrix to me in the trailer and that's strange considering the three movies are all over the place.
This reminded me most of Matrix 1 with a bit of Matrix 2 sauce.
I'm expecting it will be like Blade Runner -> Blade Runner 2049.
Where there's a group of people that absolutely loves it and a group of people that doesn't like that it didn't end up like they imagined it would.
If you don't like where the Matrix went, you can always pretend that Neo got his memory erased and started working for Russian mob and that's where John Wick starts.
Will it be better than Matrix 3? Most definitely.
Will it be better than Matrix 2? Very likely
Will it be better than Matrix? Probably not but that's ok too :trumps
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Cinematography is gonna be fine. Sense8, Cloud Atlas and JA looked good. No Don Davis sucks no way around that but I'm fine mostly since I'm going expecting this to 100% be doing its own newish thing. No Woo Ping sucks but I'm also expecting way less straight up kung fu this time around. I do know they brought in Stahleski back to do some action stuff so I'm still not too worried.
It's gonna point at and reference the original 3 a lot but I'm still expecting it to look, feel, sound and be it's own thing. I think the trailer also makes that fairly clear? Even down to the fact that there's not even a hint of green tint over it. Use of orange instead might be pointing to the new world as well but that could be reaching. Anyway it's new Matrix, haters gonna hate. Bless up. Stop being miserable RahX you're life ain't that bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf-bbi7-Ktk
EDIT: I just remembered that at the very end of Revolutions the world had that orange glow hmmm bless
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The Matrix not being green is definitely due to the end of Revolutions.
(Honestly weird they forgot that for MxO, but that was probably WB mandating it for recognizability/marketing...)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyhM-izsk3s
Some brand-new canon factoids I've already (re?)learned from this:
- Holy shit, Merv has a raging boners for Chrystlers. I knew the two cars taken were, but I always thought the background cars were normal cars. :lol I assumed the parking lot door was a portal, forgetting that the entire Merv compound including the Keymaker's cell and Chateau are still technically in that skycraper with the elevator Neo/Trinity/Morpheus travel up.
- More shockingly, Merv's Chrystler garage is the same one Seraph approaches and they use to break into Club Hel in Revolutions. Club Hel is in this place too??
- This jogged my memory of the wall-of-TVs at the beginning of Neo's interrogation scene from the first movie. They outright state it was likely the Architect watching him, even back then.
#It'sAllConnected
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https://twitter.com/BaneTitle/status/1425227672855121936
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In an early version of Reloaded's script, Helmut Bakaitis originally read for a "counselor-type" character, not the Architect.
And who is NPH playing in Resurrections? Hmm...
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https://twitter.com/BaneTitle/status/1425227672855121936
I loved that about the Matrix, it was all a bunch of random nonsense that made absolutely no sense when you thought 5 seconds about it.
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https://twitter.com/BaneTitle/status/1425227672855121936
Aaaand that's why Fishburne wasn't asked back :lol
J/K, hopefully
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyhM-izsk3s
- Scenes purportedly depicting the early life of Thomas Anderson play on The Architect's monitors, never noticed that before. Tom as a kid plays on the beach (maybe getting bullied), rotates a full chessboard around, rolls around on some grass, assembles a desktop computer, and reads superhero comic books. Seeing them full-scale is also a trip.
- Holy shit are the multiple takes of Keanu SCREAMING at the Architect goddamn hilarious. (~37m) :lol They don't censor "fuck" or "shit" in the BTS, but they do censor (in full) Keanu yelling "FUCK YOUR MOTHER!" :lol
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https://www.buzzfeed.com/adambvary/the-wachowskis-jupiter-ascending-the-matrix-cloud-atlas
Lana Wachowski: Everyone was like, "Make the second [film] in the trilogy the exact same as the first. Why can't it just be the same? Why can't you just do it?" And we're like, "No, the point is that the opposite is true in the second one, and yes, it's gonna rub you the wrong way. But that's what we're interested in as artists." The second and third [movies] were the story for us. We explained to Warner Bros. what we wanted to do with the trilogy, and the first biggest thing was like, "Don't kill Neo! Just don't! You can't kill Neo! You can't kill Trinity! What are you doing?" It was never like somebody said, "Do what you want. Go forth, Wachowskis, and make whatever you want!"
Lana Wachowski: This is part of another giant conversation about originality. When you think of all those great big continuing stories, like Raiders [of the Lost Ark], Star Wars, Terminator, Alien, Back to the Future, they all are original material written for our art form.
And the second thing they have in common is they're before 9/11. Post-9/11, we begin to have a different relationship to originality. We actually cultivate an attraction to things we know, to a derivative material. We want to see books turned into movies in a way we never wanted to before then, because, I think, we know the ending. Stories about the same character over and over are ultimately comforting in the way that a child feels comforted when they hear a bedtime story over and over and over. It's certain. You know what's going to happen. [The late film critic] Gene Siskel used to say he liked Indiana Jones because of the uncertainty of the fact that he was an original character. You weren't 100% sure it was going to work out. But he didn't like Superman because Superman was the same as Coca-Cola, and Coca-Cola was always going to be taken care of by the Coca-Cola Bottling Company.
Nowadays, people who write about movies are obsessed with derivative material in a way they never were before. And they crave it. They hunger for familiarity, and they actually have a suspicion of originality.
Lots of great quotes in that article.
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:kermit
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Imagine a Path of Neo-type game with DMC's combat system. :lawd
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https://twitter.com/BaneTitle/status/1425227672855121936
always thought the sleeve garters were odd, but they did work for morpheus' renaissance man of style vibe
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Weren't you in the Dune trailer thread saying the same thing? Get a new concern-troll dude, this one's more tired than Marvel humor itself.
I also think you missed how deliberately cheesy a lot of the human exchanges were in the original trilogy already.
No? I think Dune looks great. I think there was one trailer that seemed "Marvely" but that's because they have to market a movie and Dune is a hard sell.
As someone who likes the Matrix sequels and watches the movies pretty often, I think this genuinely looks and sounds awful. It really looks like it's made by people who have aged out of the Matrix.
And the words of originality fall flat when you're creating a movie that is digging up old characters including one that died for the sake of being safe.
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At the end of the day these are just movies and your tastes are what they are.
Short of The Rise of Skywalker, I personally try not to judge films which creatives, artists, and technicians worked on for three years of their lives based on one trailer and dubiously-accurate text-only spoilers.
I'd rather, you know, watch the movie and draw my opinions from that.
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There’s no point of marketing or things like trailers if they aren’t supposed to give you an impression.
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There’s no point of marketing or things like trailers if they aren’t supposed to give you an impression.
Facetiousness isn't becoming. You've been giving opinions about the final film, supported by leaks you specifically sought out -- not the trailer.
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That's pretty impossible considering the movie isn't out.
My opinions are pretty clearly framed as "what I'm hearing and seeing about the movie which would include the trailer and leaks sounds bad".
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That's pretty impossible considering the movie isn't out.
I know, it's almost like you're rushing to judgment or something.
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I didn't get a Marvel humor vibe from the trailer.
I complained about that in the Dune thread as well, though thankfully the actual movie has, i think literally 2 jokes in 3 hours. (both in the trailer)
And given how deadly serious the whole movie feels, they do feel tonally out of place a bit, but nothing too bad. Though the movie has much deeper problems than that to worry about.
This one though doesn't feel like that to me, and the Matrix was always a tongue in cheek movie, with plenty of humor in it.
However the trailer looks quite different from what we got before (why i like it) and that can understandably put some people off.
After all, the Wachowski are far from infallible.
Personally i'd say you don't come back to the Matrix 20 years later, to just do more of the same (or: You shouldn't).
That's why i hope it won't be a "remember this? remember that?" fest, and it'll have something to add, which to me seems to be the case, from how different in tone the trailer looks.
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That's pretty impossible considering the movie isn't out.
I know, it's almost like you're rushing to judgment or something.
And you're rushing to hype it and defend it.
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Wonderful ad hominem. I suggest you have set aside some time for serious self-reflection.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVbHxZmSp8o
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I thought it looked and sounded pretty lame to be honest.
You are also notoriously hard to please.
No this is an ad hominem.
I think you need reflection.
Start where you stop getting upset when someone isn’t blowing the thing your memeing about.
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You know what, you're right. I usually try not to be so combative.
See y'all in 2022.
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I've seen all the spoilers and it's going to be better you can imagine 8)
smh at the haters and the losers expecting it to be the exact same as the 1-3, then cry when not meet babby expectations. also be mad that it's the same thing over again :trumps
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The spoilers doesn’t sound as bad as I thought. Then again, I still love Matrix Reloaded big twist, so...
See previous post.
Just saying I like this kind of stuff. Is just Revolutions film I found extremely shitty (except for the idea of the ending).
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I thought it looked and sounded pretty lame to be honest.
You are also notoriously hard to please.
No this is an ad hominem.
I think you need reflection.
Start where you stop getting upset when someone isn’t blowing the thing your memeing about.
THE MATRIX REFLECTIONS
COMING 2023
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A prequel story about a company called Nvidya creating reflections so real humans can't tell the difference between the virtual and real world
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Decided to re-watch the trilogy. I liked the first movie and was not a fan of the sequels- I haven't watched them since they were in theaters. Only watched the original so far. It seems a bit dated in some ways, but still holds up well.
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Ehhhhh trailer is meh to me. Feels like "hey remember this? Let's do it again."
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Decided to re-watch the trilogy. I liked the first movie and was not a fan of the sequels- I haven't watched them since they were in theaters. Only watched the original so far. It seems a bit dated in some ways, but still holds up well.
PREPARE FOR DISAPPOINTMENT
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lksyNJhgyyE
lol never saw this be4
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BZUMD85S7s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1Jsdu0S6mw
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Just came back from a matinee showing. Really liked it. It takes the message of the original Matrix and subverts them to be appropriate to this modern age.
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One of the worst movies I’ve ever seen tbh
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One of the worst movies I’ve ever seen tbh
why was this? I'm watching 2 right now, will watch 3 and 4 tonight. 2 is a lot better than I remember it being.
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I didn’t like Fake Morpheus and Fake Smith,
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Doogie Howser as the main villain,
zero good action scenes, tons of Family Guy reference humor where they recreate a scene from the first movie and then a character says “woah, remember this from the first movie”, and also it looked like it had the budget of an episode of CSI: Miami. It didn’t feel like anyone was taking the movie seriously or even that they were making a real movie, it just felt like the whole thing was made as a goof.
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Granted, I'm only about 45 minutes into this movie but...it really sucks. A lot.
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I am not surprised that it’s divisive.
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Doesn't help that the action scenes either suck or are retreads of action scenes from the OG film, or both.
Like...how do they screw up that part of it?????
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This movie was hot memberberry garbage.
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This was a weird movie and it's all over the place.
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Negatives: I hated how meta it was. The action sucked. Like the train scene was almost interesting but not really; matrix 2 and even 3 had a lot better action. Also, the CGI was on par with 3 (which holds up surprisingly well other than the superman Neo stuff). No idea how stuff doesn't look better 20 years later. The aesthetics were wrong, like what's up with the anime-eyed dolphin-mantis robot? The comedy fell flat. Also they dehumanized the people stuck in the matrix by calling them bots etc. Like the suicide-diving scene was a cool idea that didn't work cause they called them bots and turned them into green matrix slug instead of doing real horror elements as the first matrix had.
Positives: I liked where the story went though and the overall plot worked. Would have preferred if they just made Trinity The One from the start and made it a heist movie to get neo out instead of Trinity. I'd watch a 5th movie. I think the idea that people wouldn't want to leave the matrix, even after the war was won, is a pretty interesting idea that should have been explored better.
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You probably still wanna spoiler that stuff for people that haven’t seen it.
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The Therapist says in his big reveal that they didn’t even need as many humans, they just populate with more bots, and create more miserable situations that produce more energy for the machines. Those are actually bots. They are minor programs that are just there to frustrate the humans’ situation. Think about NPCs in a video game. Think about bots in a training simulator. It’s that kind of thing.
The point in this movie, which I also enjoyed in The Last Jedi before it was retconned in the Rise of Skywalker, is that special abilities are not given by genetics or fate; they are something that anyone can achieve when they believe in themselves, and pursue becoming their best self. Anyone can be free from restraint if they accept who they are and act with bravery. Trinity is not the One, and she is not part of a dyad, she broke free from her illusory controls.
Neo says, “I never believed in the one.“ He is opening up the solution in that line. There is no “one.“ Anyone can save themselves.
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I hated the trailer, really liked the movie surprisingly. Not great by any means, but low expectations and all that I suppose? I had a good time and the lore wasn’t crazy nonsense like 2 and 3 even though it continued down that path. I’d watch another.
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Was a bit of a boring movie.
Wasn't bad. Just kinda of a nothing movie. New Morpheus had swagger at least.
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You probably still wanna spoiler that stuff for people that haven’t seen it.
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The Therapist says in his big reveal that they didn’t even need as many humans, they just populate with more bots, and create more miserable situations that produce more energy for the machines. Those are actually bots. They are minor programs that are just there to frustrate the humans’ situation. Think about NPCs in a video game. Think about bots in a training simulator. It’s that kind of thing.
The point in this movie, which I also enjoyed in The Last Jedi before it was retconned in the Rise of Skywalker, is that special abilities are not given by genetics or fate; they are something that anyone can achieve when they believe in themselves, and pursue becoming their best self. Anyone can be free from restraint if they accept who they are and act with bravery. Trinity is not the One, and she is not part of a dyad, she broke free from her illusory controls.
Neo says, “I never believed in the one.“ He is opening up the solution in that line. There is no “one.“ Anyone can save themselves.
I missed the bot thing. I did get The One thing. spoiler (click to show/hide)
I just mean superpowers, not a singular entity. She should have had them from after the first act and been the central character instead of Neo. Think this would have been the better inversion, though then you have her reducing neo from the matrix as a rehash.
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Also, the world kinda jokes and accepts that Keanu Reeves can't act but he's a good likeable dude so that's ok...
...but this has to be the worst acting he's done, ever. Like did they film every scene on the first take and move on?
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Also the action was kind of boringly shot.
It's weird because I usually really like the Watchowski's as directors. I even non-ironically liked Jupiter Ascending and don't get the hate. Speed Racer was great and their portions of Cloud Atlas were good.
This was missing a lot of the fun, budget and good direction of those.
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The most original creative thing the film did was the marble ball synthoids. Wish it did more with them.
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Also the action was kind of boringly shot.
It's weird because I usually really like the Watchowski's as directors. I even non-ironically liked Jupiter Ascending and don't get the hate. Speed Racer was great and their portions of Cloud Atlas were good.
This was missing a lot of the fun, budget and good direction of those.
Maybe this didn't feel the same because it was just one of them behind the movie instead of both siblings? Can't say I'm in much of a hurry to watch this. I couldn't get very far when trying to rewatch the two sequels.
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It was okay. It could have been better if it did anything with the meta premise, but really, it didn't have anything to say with it.
Also, that's not how videogames work @ movie makers :doge
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It kinda feels like this:
"OK, FINE, I'll do it. And make it trash so that you guys stop asking me about the fucking Matrix."
Then again, everything they made after the OG movie was hot garbage, so.
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No wonder why lily bowed out of this attempted do over.
it was aight.
Action was trash. except the bullet time with da god.
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This movie was poopy.
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I watched the first movie yesterday and the whole final act is :rejoice level action.
For this one I think they mixed up the final act with a zombie movie from 2010.
Thought it was ok on the whole, though. 3/5
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Couldn't finish it. Terrible.
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https://twitter.com/Shen_the_Bird/status/1474520345445081091
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Felt like a bit of a missed opportunity, and never really delivered on the potential of the first act. Not that I disliked the rest of it, but when you start out with something that could be really special then settle on what everyone kind of expected (and didn't really ask for?), it by default feels like a step down. The funniest defense I've seen is to now act like the action wasn't a huge part of the Matrix series, only because it sucks in the latest one. Nobody would be pushing this line if that wasn't the case.
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I enjoyed this movie quite a bit, mostly the IO parts with Niobe, but it's not very rewatchable and the action is an unfortunate let-down.
Call me crazy but I enjoyed Keanu's acting in this, as well as the score (though not as good as Don Davis' work).
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mostly the IO parts
:doge
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First half was interesting, second part was a mess.
Action was awfully shot and uncreative all around.
This would've been better as a meta film all the way through, like halfway through they reveal to Neo that Matrix, indeed, never existed, and just keep going as an existential crisis movie about the trilogy, but outside of it.
Keep the Synecdoche New York thing going.
Everything concerning IO and all that shit was just putting me to sleep, but then i also hated anything relating to Zion in 2 and 3.
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mostly the IO parts
:doge
I think this thread shows why I'd be so into the mythology building lol. :lol
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you just want orgies in caves
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you just want orgies in caves
I'll never turn down a rave. (https://i.imgur.com/Oz0L4xr.gif)
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you just want orgies in caves
I'll never turn down a rave. (https://i.imgur.com/Oz0L4xr.gif)
*noted*
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Watched this today. I enjoyed it more than I thought I would and would rate it as better than Reloaded and Revolutions, but still found this to be too long, too much a retread of the original, and just kind of stupid. I understand what they were doing, but there was just way, way too much stuff from the original movie being recycled here even beyond the opening and all the various scene inclusions from the other movies that popped up. I enjoyed the all meta-commentary, but found it really dumb at the same time.
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Also, what was the deal with Smith here? His inclusion felt pointless, like "HEY IT'S ME 'MEMBER ME AND LET'S FIGHT AND OK WE'RE EVENLY MATCHED AND OK I'LL HELP STOP THE ANALYST AND THEN BYE AND STUFF!"
I enjoyed this movie quite a bit, mostly the IO parts with Niobe, but it's not very rewatchable and the action is an unfortunate let-down.
Call me crazy but I enjoyed Keanu's acting in this, as well as the score (though not as good as Don Davis' work).
There was very little action overall compared to the other films, to the point where I think anyone expecting anything on the level of the previous movies would hate this.
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I definitely prefer Reloaded to this. Need to rewatch a few more times to see about Revolutions, honestly a toss-up.
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I definitely prefer Reloaded to this. Need to rewatch a few more times to see about Revolutions, honestly a toss-up.
Speaking of, I agree with RLM in that this movie should have been the one called "Reloaded" and not the second one! :lol
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Resurrections makes more sense to me, they explicitly call out "Resurrection pods" in the film and Sati's parents' work on them.
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Watched it a couple of days ago. Thought it was ok, probably a 6.5 out of 10. Not as bad as it could have been, but not good either. Some fun meta-humor but basically an unnecessary and forgettable sequel that doesn't make much sense/contradicts what happened before.
- I was surprised at how boring the score was; the awesome soundtrack was a major ingredient of the first movie's success and made the second one more bearable.
- The fights were weak, which is pretty unforgivable.
- The new Agent Smith was bland. This badly needed a digitally de-aged Hugo Weaving. At least Neil Patrick Harris was a good antagonist.
Major plot element that kind of ruins the movie: Apparently they can now leave the matrix at any time, they no longer require a special line (phone) to get out. If they can just unplug before they would die then there is absolutely nothing at stake anymore. Why were they even chasing around inside the simulation?
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Major plot element that kind of ruins the movie: Apparently they can now leave the matrix at any time, they no longer require a special line (phone) to get out. If they can just unplug before they would die then there is absolutely nothing at stake anymore. Why were they even chasing around inside the simulation?
It wasn't handled very clearly, but i think they use mirrors this time?
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I didn't see any mirrors in the air when Trinity was flying around with Neo at the end of the movie.
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I'll spoiler for obv. reasons, but
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what is the plot point of Trinity needing to be loaded into Bugs' brain? Or connected at the same time? Whatever it is that requires Bugs to be connected while they disconnect Trinity from the Resurrection Pod was utterly opaque to me.
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I did'nt care for this, and I guess my dislike can be summed up as it's just not like the other movies.
The movie seems silly and made by an older person who seems to have lost any edge or passion.
I love the Matrix movies. I find them to be the most interesting genre-pushing action movies out there. Incredibly forward-thinking and rewarding movies out there. Full of thought on storytelling, the human condition, and our relationship with other beings and the world. Daring beyond pretty much other Hollywood blockbusters. And to toot my horn, Ive always liked the sequels, from well before the internet seemed to revaluate them.
But this movie just did not to do it for me. It starts with not having the honestly atmosphere and mood of the originals. The first movie has this cyberpunk neo-noir look in the real world and then it becomes stark. The Matrix world feels off, cold, and that draws you in. Amazing art direction. In the later sequels, the Matrix world and the sets you see give the impression of them being part of this unseenworld, this underworld. I'm talking Club Hell and even the Merv castle. They feel like not ordinary places. Here the MAtrix looks and feels like any other movie I've ever seen. The cinematography and general production design feel weak, giving off no real personality. Hard to feel or care for Neo when he's going to some boring Coffee shop. There's nothing interesting about this Matrix.
But also the entire first half of the movie is cringe. The metaness is lame and forced. Not funny and does not feel like the Matrix. Parts of the original movies were meta, but strangely more subtle and dealing more with how the world exists as a fake entity. Here its hammered on and lame. The entire writing feels idiotic. Embarrassing characters. No one should be saying MILF's in a matrix movie. The Matrix took itself pretty seriously, here it feels like the movie is laughing at anyone who cared about that tone. I'm not sure what it achieves beyond trying to be funny? It sure does not add to the world or feel of the Matrix.
The action is bad. There's nothing to be said and that alone is a failure to me. The original movies are full of memorable and unique action scenes. Hell, Club Hell feels the most uncreative being that it's basically the lobby scene with a gimmick. But Hell I remember that, I won't remember anything in this movie. None of the cool bullet ballet action that is beautiful and arresting to look at. Run of the mill action scenes that add no character. The action scenes in the original do add character to the series. They make it feel otherwordly as instead of just simple punching, you have dudes in FBI suits fighting in ballet kung fu. It makes it feel a bit more myth-making as this world partakes in honestly, fancy fighting. It sucks.
The music sucks. Thats it. Felt generic and lacking the proto-EDM/House music that thrilled in the original and added so much. It can't even capture Don Davis in the moments where the music would sore and feel more heroic.
The story? Well. It was just well lame. I see people claiming this is some unique movie that goes against Hollywood conventions. But it doesn't. Its full of dumb humor and quips. The final act devolves into fighting mass cgi zombies, something that despite Smith's Clones didn't happen. The movie plays it extremely safe and doesn't really do anything daring with the storytelling. Not like in Reloaded where it turns the chosen one narrative on it's head. Or Revolutions where it has a non-conventional ending. Here, the story is simple and plays out just like you'd expect with really nothing to go off of. Nothing to make you question and nothing that surprises you.
The beginning of the movie is nonsense and while a Matrix that is looping could be cool, what's not is this talk about Moodles and a fake Morpheus who mostly feels pointless in the movie. Like the first starts off with so much atmosphere and tone, this starts off idiotic and goofy. Like its cramming you with a bunch of info that goes nowhere. Also Agent Morpheus apparently having a life really takes the grit out of the agents. Also Neo can just make a Matrix within a Matrix? What is this world anymore?
Honestly, I lost interest pretty much after that and then the movie got really cringy.
I liked Buggs as a presence. But her character also lacks...well character. Her motivation is she just saw Neo. I get it the meta-narrative is shes a fan and that's it. Honestly, the only thing this movie seems to have for it is that it's a meta take on sequels. Which doesn't work for me. Yes the sequels have a meta-ness with control and chosen one narrative, but that is actually built into the narrative. Its part of the conflict between the oracle and the architect that the chosen one narrative is obvious, and that for the Oracle it needs to be broken. Here it seems even more messy, surronded by nothing good to help carry the load.
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I'll spoiler for obv. reasons, but spoiler (click to show/hide)
what is the plot point of Trinity needing to be loaded into Bugs' brain? Or connected at the same time? Whatever it is that requires Bugs to be connected while they disconnect Trinity from the Resurrection Pod was utterly opaque to me.
I have not seen the movie but the red letter media review seemed to present this scenario as Indiana Jones replacing the gold idol with a weight that weighed the same amount
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you just want orgies in caves
I'll never turn down a rave. (https://i.imgur.com/Oz0L4xr.gif)
Honestly, the lack of awesome electronic music further disappointed me about the new Matrix... one of the parts that made the original(s) so iconic for me were those awesome tunes by Fluke, Propellerheads, Juno Reactor, Prodigy, Rob Dougan, etc.
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I'll spoiler for obv. reasons, but spoiler (click to show/hide)
what is the plot point of Trinity needing to be loaded into Bugs' brain? Or connected at the same time? Whatever it is that requires Bugs to be connected while they disconnect Trinity from the Resurrection Pod was utterly opaque to me.
It also lead to one of the few great visual moments of the movie though, a very cool concept i would've liked explored more.
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I didn't see any mirrors in the air when Trinity was flying around with Neo at the end of the movie.
That's why i mentioned it not being clear, as i'm assuming they just flew to an exit point (mirror) off screen.
The train scene with the little bathroom mirror, seems to imply that they need a mirror to exit, but perhaps that was just to extract Neo for the first time? Honestly i'd have to rewatch it to see, i don't remember the details.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMQFdZMoHyI
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMQFdZMoHyI
Fabulous review.
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this is the greatest movie in the history of cinema, anyone who disagrees is a complete moron
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I really enjoyed it.
It wasn't a predictable J.J. Abrams or Trevorrow type sequel. They actually tried to do something different which made it an interesting watch even though not everything was executed as well as it could be.
The weakest parts were the neo-Zion(IO?) bits. That felt a bit phoned in. Then again, those were also the weakest bits out of the original movies (especially the second one) so maybe that was intentional too?
Also not having Hugo Weaving was a bit of a letdown.
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I was surprised by the rlm review, because mike had such similar thoughts as I did when I was watching the first time.
I loved that it was a new matrix, both inside the movie world and the film itself being a new type of matrix movie.
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the analyst is like that voice in your head that over analyzes and also the voice that seems like it's helping you, but ultimately leads to a miserable existence. the voice that tells you to let go and settle, when you know there is much more out there waiting for you. he's your best friend and confidant, but also your worst enemy. telling you to give up on your art and pursue more realistic things like some boring job you hate, but now your bills are paid and life is more stable. not exactly bad advice to take the boring job, but for some that life is worse than none at all. which is why some will choose to end it, or think about it a lot.
I had some more to this and could clean it up some, but eh
much better villain than given credit for
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Is it safe to say that this movie has had about as much impact as a wet blanket Marvel sequel?
Seems like everyone has forgotten about it and there is about zero discussion anywhere.
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Seems like it mostly tanked, which doesn't mean it's a bad film, just means most people didn't like it.
Most Coen Bros. fans don't seem to appreciate A Serious Man, but it's one of their most interesting films, and intelligently explores humans' relationship with capital-G God. Terry Gilliam's Zero Theorem similarly explores dangerous philosophical ground, and is unloved in his oeuvre.
Popular and talked about don't necessarily mean shit.
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(https://i.imgur.com/YwOx5wp.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/YwOx5wp.jpg)
:huh
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Sir, this is a Matrix.
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8)
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I meant to put that in the memes thread, things like this happen often :neogaf
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Don’t you ever apologize, King.
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I like this movie but is silly as fuck even when is “deep”. Like, my brains says no but the other part of me is grinning.
I really appreciate what Lana was aiming for (a more positive and hopeful take on the matrix universe) but at times it’s feel like The Matrix Saturday morning cartoon (but I would still watch shit the fuck out that). I still really love it.
God bless the Wachowski, they still trying and sometimes they succeed.
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Warner Bros. sued for releasing The Matrix Resurrections on HBO Max and in theaters simultaneously (https://news.yahoo.com/warner-bros-sued-releasing-matrix-175755843.html)
Well that's not good.
I hope Village Roadshow gets every cent they're owed, tbh. Why not.
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sign a bad contract?
hope you can get the cancel culture to bail you out
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sign a bad contract?
hope you can get the cancel culture to bail you out
Man the perfect post was right there and you missed it. "Go woke get broke"
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sign a bad contract?
hope you can get the cancel culture to bail you out
Man the perfect post was right there and you missed it. "Go woke get broke"
I'm sorry I don't like to take people's experiences for a joke, like you.
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I'm sorry I don't like to take people's experiences for a joke, like you.
I don't understand this sentence but OK.
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I like this movie but is silly as fuck even when is “deep”. Like, my brains says no but the other part of me is grinning.
I really appreciate what Lana was aiming for (a more positive and hopeful take on the matrix universe) but at times it’s feel like The Matrix Saturday morning cartoon (but I would still watch shit the fuck out that). I still really love it.
God bless the Wachowski, they still trying and sometimes they succeed.
combining the allegorical matrix commentary on the trashfire of the modern media landscape and it's obsession with rehashing every old IP under the sun with straight faced goofy ass sci fi fantasy was masterful. it was fun and silly but unafraid to throw punches at it's parent studio, themselves, the creatively moribund production studios churning out content. the matrix movie i didn't know i wanted.
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the analyst is like that voice in your head that over analyzes and also the voice that seems like it's helping you, but ultimately leads to a miserable existence. the voice that tells you to let go and settle, when you know there is much more out there waiting for you. he's your best friend and confidant, but also your worst enemy. telling you to give up on your art and pursue more realistic things like some boring job you hate, but now your bills are paid and life is more stable. not exactly bad advice to take the boring job, but for some that life is worse than none at all. which is why some will choose to end it, or think about it a lot.
I had some more to this and could clean it up some, but eh
much better villain than given credit for
:hesright
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So how is the matrix n analogy for being trans?
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So how is the matrix n analogy for being trans?
The robots that enslaved and killed humanity are analogous to Hogwarts Legacy.
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So how is the matrix n analogy for being trans?
The robots that enslaved and killed humanity are analogous to Hogwarts Legacy.
No but seriously
https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/a33521185/the-matrix-trans-allegory-meaning-explained/
I still dont get it tho
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Neo takes the HRT and wakes up as her true self.