Get ready to be body cavity searched if you are male snd by yourself to watch it. :doge
Joker
:nope
JOKER BABY
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Sometimes I would go to look into one of the cameras, and I noticed Drew had put something in the lens. It was stuff like ‘What if cameras were guns? would you buy a mass murderer’ and ‘Lights. Camera. BAYBEE.’ I had to ask him to stop because I was getting too scared to direct.
I heard that they didn't even bring that guy back, something about his performance being too realistic and frightening, so they hired this Jackin Phoenix guy or whatever.
it STILL hasn't come out? why have I been hearing about it for months?It had its premiere for reviewers at the end of August.
sux to be you guys, gonna watch this in a country that is 70% black so i'm safe :smug
I feel like giving Joker an origin story misses the point of Joker.Then again they've done the Joker a hundred times already, they basically have to mix it up.
dw, i'm just going to throw up a wakanda forever and skate right bysux to be you guys, gonna watch this in a country that is 70% black so i'm safe :smug
But they won’t be safe from you…spoiler (click to show/hide):joker[close]
90's angst with a 70's movie making aesthetic.
I don't think that will sell to the masses.
It's a Batman-adjacent comic book movie tho, so $70 Million opening weekend minimum.
(https://i.imgur.com/WPZLe3r.jpg)Why is the black wolf is allowed to say it?
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Please tell me that single males sign is real. Hell I'm going to a Regal tonight to watch the weeb movie Rascal Does Not Dream of a Dreaming Girl, so maybe I'll see something like that myself if there is a midnight showing for Joker there.
Edit: I'm guessing it's 99% fake though :(
One theater chain is getting pretty candid about Joker.
Posting a rare critical-sounding assessment of an upcoming film on its docket, Alamo Drafthouse Cinema published a warning to parents about Warner Bros.’ controversial film.
The company, which operates 40 theaters coast-to-coast, told parents the movie is not for kids and has “overall bad vibes” in a Facebook post which was confirmed by an Alamo representative.
“Parental warning (this is not a joke),” begins the message. “Joker is Rated R and for good reason. There’s lots of very, very rough language, brutal violence, and overall bad vibes.”
Continues the warning: “It’s a gritty, dark, and realistic Taxi Driver-esque depiction of one man’s descent into madness. It’s not for kids, and they won’t like it, anyway.”
“There’s no Batman,” the warning adds.
It’s an unusually protective move from a theater chain, as most exhibitors typically turn a blind eye to whether kids should see adult content in the hopes of keeping their seats full.
Previously, Alamo announced it would add additional security personnel to its theaters for Joker‘s opening weekend due to concerns about the film inspiring real-life violence. Other theaters are taking additional measures as well, and in New York, the NYPD plans to deploy undercover officers to theaters, according to Deadline.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTmiqHSzXU0
the sign is fake
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Are we even allowed to see this if we’re not incels or alt-right?
Not really hyped for this movie.
I for one am delighted that the endless timu-rahx beef keeps spilling over into every thread on the boreTo be fair it’s rather one sided. I dont mention the guy ever.
you have a propensity to bring your negative and unsolicited opinions into places where no one cares and timu's autism is so advanced he lets his frustration boil over into an obsession with you without realizing he's just as bad. semper gamesok now talk about the epic game store
I feel like it’s more incel like behavior to keep having a grudge and attacking someone on an Internet forum.
Yeah and? That’s like half the posts on a forum.I feel like it’s more incel like behavior to keep having a grudge and attacking someone on an Internet forum.
Eh, I don’t have any grudge against you. But you post before you edited was essentially: “I don’t care about this, look how much I don’t care.”
Yeah and? That’s like half the posts on a forum.I feel like it’s more incel like behavior to keep having a grudge and attacking someone on an Internet forum.
Eh, I don’t have any grudge against you. But you post before you edited was essentially: “I don’t care about this, look how much I don’t care.”
Arlyn Sharon Phoenix (née Dunetz; born December 31, 1944), commonly known as Heart Phoenix, is an American social activist and mother of actors River, Rain, Joaquin, Liberty, and Summer Phoenix. She is on the Board of Directors of Peace Alliance, an organization which supports the creation of a United States Department of Peace.
John Lee Bottom was born 1947 to Robert Merrill Bottom (1917-1993) and Beulah Ernstine Ingram (1918-1980) . He married Arlyn Sharon Dunetz (1944) . Notable ancestors include Henry II of England (1133-1189), William I of England (1027-1087), Charlemagne (747-814), Hugh Capet (c940-996), Alfred the Great (849-899).
QuoteArlyn Sharon Phoenix (née Dunetz; born December 31, 1944), commonly known as Heart Phoenix, is an American social activist and mother of actors River, Rain, Joaquin, Liberty, and Summer Phoenix. She is on the Board of Directors of Peace Alliance, an organization which supports the creation of a United States Department of Peace.
white people :holeup also turns out they're Hungarian-Jewish or something
edit: Ok his dad's name is "John Lee Bottom" :lolQuoteJohn Lee Bottom was born 1947 to Robert Merrill Bottom (1917-1993) and Beulah Ernstine Ingram (1918-1980) . He married Arlyn Sharon Dunetz (1944) . Notable ancestors include Henry II of England (1133-1189), William I of England (1027-1087), Charlemagne (747-814), Hugh Capet (c940-996), Alfred the Great (849-899).
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That's a bit of a stretch. Nobody was pulling a "why is Joker white ugh" card out.I don't think it's a stretch.
Why would incels shoot up an incel movie, though? Doesn't make any dang sense. I'd be more afraid of going to see, like, Captain Marvel or something instead.
Why would incels shoot up an incel movie, though? Doesn't make any dang sense.Do I really look like a guy with a plan? You know what I am? I'm a dog chasing cars. I wouldn't know what to do with one if I caught it! You know, I just... DO things.
Why would incels shoot up an incel movie, though? Doesn't make any dang sense. I'd be more afraid of going to see, like, Captain Marvel or something instead.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH3Oj3pnFwE
Seeing this tonight. Do you think it's the kind of film that it's better to watch alone or with a crowd? I've avoided spoilers except for watching the very first trailer, so I don't know what kind of film it's supposed to be
“fundamental right to sex”incels unpersoned
Yeah movie was cool but not really magnificent. Hearing a million dissertations on it is going to get boring real fast
Edit 2: I don't think this is particularly an incel film. Sure there's some loser and mental illness bits in the film but the type of psychotic pathos, rage/anger/anxiety at women wherein they become the root cause of all society's ills is not in the movie.I think a significant portion of incels fall under the economically flailing failson demo. Not having sex and not having friends have a huge intersection.
How tiny are your womanish wrists?
Not quite. I think the best analogy is still Falling Down but the main character starts at an even ridiculously lower point. It's more deranged, and the center of the desperation is on mental illness and poverty. Like Falling Down there is an implicit justification for all the violence but the way it plays out is quite different. And a movement of course forms behind the Joker as he becomes more and more unhinged.
I got shot watching the movie which is weird since it’s coming out next week here.Copyright infringement is no joke. :ufup
"But the crucial parody, the crucial mockery, the work of which “Joker” comes off as a callously commercial imitation, is “Black Panther”—a comic-book-based movie that infuses its framework with rigorously conceived and boldly assertive political visions to go with its elaborate world-building."- The New Yorker
"...from Phillips himself, who has been sounding off about the “far left” and “woke culture” and other threats to the ability of a murderous clown to make money unmolested."
"There’s an inherent worry saying Joker is a bad movie, particularly with the knowledge that female writers have been threatened for stating just such an opinion. But it’s telling a telling statement, both from the angle of women being terrorized to readers being so riled up over a review that they would go to such lengths. Maybe that’s what happens when a movie so unabashedly strives to give justification to the Clown Prince of Evil’s actions as Todd Phillips’ Joker does."-Some rando @ culturess.com
"Is it a dangerous manifesto that could inspire incels to commit acts of violence, as some of its critics fear? The answer is yes.."
And yes, there is good reason to worry that this film will appeal to incels. The character of Sophie Dumond (Zazie Beetz) exists for no other purpose than to be a supposed love interest who is stalked, obsessed over, has her apartment broken into, and is eventually reduced to a plot gimmick. She is, in other words, an object in Fleck's world rather than a three-dimensional character, with her main function that of reinforcing Fleck's sense of failure and justify his resentments against the world. This is perhaps an intentional parallel to Cybill Shepherd's Betsy from "Taxi Driver," but we actually saw Robert De Niro's Travis Bickle interact with her in meaningful ways and learned about her as a person. While Sophie isn't vilified, the simplistic and objectifying nature of her story arc is problematic, and meshes uneasily with a movie that is aimed at the violently embittered.-Salon
A bunch of the negative Joker reviews are so laughably transparent in their political bent.Quote"But the crucial parody, the crucial mockery, the work of which “Joker” comes off as a callously commercial imitation, is “Black Panther”—a comic-book-based movie that infuses its framework with rigorously conceived and boldly assertive political visions to go with its elaborate world-building."- The New Yorker
The guardian review mentions incels and Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro, the alt-right and other shit.
The new york times whinesQuote"...from Phillips himself, who has been sounding off about the “far left” and “woke culture” and other threats to the ability of a murderous clown to make money unmolested."
Scared to say it was bad, upset this is happening in CURRENT YEAR.Quote"There’s an inherent worry saying Joker is a bad movie, particularly with the knowledge that female writers have been threatened for stating just such an opinion. But it’s telling a telling statement, both from the angle of women being terrorized to readers being so riled up over a review that they would go to such lengths. Maybe that’s what happens when a movie so unabashedly strives to give justification to the Clown Prince of Evil’s actions as Todd Phillips’ Joker does."-Some rando @ culturess.com
The Salon review though, wow.
:deliciousQuote"Is it a dangerous manifesto that could inspire incels to commit acts of violence, as some of its critics fear? The answer is yes.."
andQuoteAnd yes, there is good reason to worry that this film will appeal to incels. The character of Sophie Dumond (Zazie Beetz) exists for no other purpose than to be a supposed love interest who is stalked, obsessed over, has her apartment broken into, and is eventually reduced to a plot gimmick. She is, in other words, an object in Fleck's world rather than a three-dimensional character, with her main function that of reinforcing Fleck's sense of failure and justify his resentments against the world. This is perhaps an intentional parallel to Cybill Shepherd's Betsy from "Taxi Driver," but we actually saw Robert De Niro's Travis Bickle interact with her in meaningful ways and learned about her as a person. While Sophie isn't vilified, the simplistic and objectifying nature of her story arc is problematic, and meshes uneasily with a movie that is aimed at the violently embittered.-Salon
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:lol
Get a life bro
A bunch of the negative Joker reviews are so laughably transparent in their political bent.Quote"But the crucial parody, the crucial mockery, the work of which “Joker” comes off as a callously commercial imitation, is “Black Panther”—a comic-book-based movie that infuses its framework with rigorously conceived and boldly assertive political visions to go with its elaborate world-building."- The New Yorker
The guardian review mentions incels and Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro, the alt-right and other shit.
The new york times whinesQuote"...from Phillips himself, who has been sounding off about the “far left” and “woke culture” and other threats to the ability of a murderous clown to make money unmolested."
Scared to say it was bad, upset this is happening in CURRENT YEAR.Quote"There’s an inherent worry saying Joker is a bad movie, particularly with the knowledge that female writers have been threatened for stating just such an opinion. But it’s telling a telling statement, both from the angle of women being terrorized to readers being so riled up over a review that they would go to such lengths. Maybe that’s what happens when a movie so unabashedly strives to give justification to the Clown Prince of Evil’s actions as Todd Phillips’ Joker does."-Some rando @ culturess.com
The Salon review though, wow.
:deliciousQuote"Is it a dangerous manifesto that could inspire incels to commit acts of violence, as some of its critics fear? The answer is yes.."
andQuoteAnd yes, there is good reason to worry that this film will appeal to incels. The character of Sophie Dumond (Zazie Beetz) exists for no other purpose than to be a supposed love interest who is stalked, obsessed over, has her apartment broken into, and is eventually reduced to a plot gimmick. She is, in other words, an object in Fleck's world rather than a three-dimensional character, with her main function that of reinforcing Fleck's sense of failure and justify his resentments against the world. This is perhaps an intentional parallel to Cybill Shepherd's Betsy from "Taxi Driver," but we actually saw Robert De Niro's Travis Bickle interact with her in meaningful ways and learned about her as a person. While Sophie isn't vilified, the simplistic and objectifying nature of her story arc is problematic, and meshes uneasily with a movie that is aimed at the violently embittered.-Salon
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:lol
Get a life bro
Why the fuck this even needs to be a political issue? Feels like reverse Ghostbusters 2016 as how dumb all this.
Why the fuck this even needs to be a political issue? Feels like reverse Ghostbusters 2016 as how dumb all this is.
These dumb motherfuckers acting like some weird woke puritans are far more likely to inspire violence than a movie.
These dumb motherfuckers acting like some weird woke puritans are far more likely to inspire violence than a movie.What’s more likely to be signal boosted to all corners where someone mentally unwell may latch on: a movie about a Batman villain releasing with the conversation centering around the performances and themes of mental health, social isolation, and violence? Or a bunch of faux-woke twits co-opting that conversation to yell about on social media outlets and opinion pieces on how “MOVIE=INCELS=VIOLENT SHOOTINGS” and “WE SURE HOPE INCELS DON’T KILL PEOPLE SEEING THIS MOVIE, DON’T SAY WE DIDN’T WARN YOU <smug smile>”
I mean, I know the woke-mob has developed a real taste for violence after Etika and Alec Holowka, but I don’t think that makes it right to continue egging things on.
A bunch of the negative Joker reviews are so laughably transparent in their political bent.Quote"But the crucial parody, the crucial mockery, the work of which “Joker” comes off as a callously commercial imitation, is “Black Panther”—a comic-book-based movie that infuses its framework with rigorously conceived and boldly assertive political visions to go with its elaborate world-building."- The New Yorker
The guardian review mentions incels and Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro, the alt-right and other shit.
The new york times whinesQuote"...from Phillips himself, who has been sounding off about the “far left” and “woke culture” and other threats to the ability of a murderous clown to make money unmolested."
Scared to say it was bad, upset this is happening in CURRENT YEAR.Quote"There’s an inherent worry saying Joker is a bad movie, particularly with the knowledge that female writers have been threatened for stating just such an opinion. But it’s telling a telling statement, both from the angle of women being terrorized to readers being so riled up over a review that they would go to such lengths. Maybe that’s what happens when a movie so unabashedly strives to give justification to the Clown Prince of Evil’s actions as Todd Phillips’ Joker does."-Some rando @ culturess.com
The Salon review though, wow.
:deliciousQuote"Is it a dangerous manifesto that could inspire incels to commit acts of violence, as some of its critics fear? The answer is yes.."
andQuoteAnd yes, there is good reason to worry that this film will appeal to incels. The character of Sophie Dumond (Zazie Beetz) exists for no other purpose than to be a supposed love interest who is stalked, obsessed over, has her apartment broken into, and is eventually reduced to a plot gimmick. She is, in other words, an object in Fleck's world rather than a three-dimensional character, with her main function that of reinforcing Fleck's sense of failure and justify his resentments against the world. This is perhaps an intentional parallel to Cybill Shepherd's Betsy from "Taxi Driver," but we actually saw Robert De Niro's Travis Bickle interact with her in meaningful ways and learned about her as a person. While Sophie isn't vilified, the simplistic and objectifying nature of her story arc is problematic, and meshes uneasily with a movie that is aimed at the violently embittered.-Salon
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:lol
Get a life bro
:umadspoiler (click to show/hide)Really, getting mad because a comic book film. Is really detestable. :kermit[close]
A bunch of the negative Joker reviews are so laughably transparent in their political bent.Quote"But the crucial parody, the crucial mockery, the work of which “Joker” comes off as a callously commercial imitation, is “Black Panther”—a comic-book-based movie that infuses its framework with rigorously conceived and boldly assertive political visions to go with its elaborate world-building."- The New Yorker
The guardian review mentions incels and Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro, the alt-right and other shit.
The new york times whinesQuote"...from Phillips himself, who has been sounding off about the “far left” and “woke culture” and other threats to the ability of a murderous clown to make money unmolested."
Scared to say it was bad, upset this is happening in CURRENT YEAR.Quote"There’s an inherent worry saying Joker is a bad movie, particularly with the knowledge that female writers have been threatened for stating just such an opinion. But it’s telling a telling statement, both from the angle of women being terrorized to readers being so riled up over a review that they would go to such lengths. Maybe that’s what happens when a movie so unabashedly strives to give justification to the Clown Prince of Evil’s actions as Todd Phillips’ Joker does."-Some rando @ culturess.com
The Salon review though, wow.
:deliciousQuote"Is it a dangerous manifesto that could inspire incels to commit acts of violence, as some of its critics fear? The answer is yes.."
andQuoteAnd yes, there is good reason to worry that this film will appeal to incels. The character of Sophie Dumond (Zazie Beetz) exists for no other purpose than to be a supposed love interest who is stalked, obsessed over, has her apartment broken into, and is eventually reduced to a plot gimmick. She is, in other words, an object in Fleck's world rather than a three-dimensional character, with her main function that of reinforcing Fleck's sense of failure and justify his resentments against the world. This is perhaps an intentional parallel to Cybill Shepherd's Betsy from "Taxi Driver," but we actually saw Robert De Niro's Travis Bickle interact with her in meaningful ways and learned about her as a person. While Sophie isn't vilified, the simplistic and objectifying nature of her story arc is problematic, and meshes uneasily with a movie that is aimed at the violently embittered.-Salon
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:lol
Get a life bro
:umadspoiler (click to show/hide)Really, getting mad because a comic book film. Is really detestable. :kermit[close]
Says the dude who read like every review of this movie to prove the critics are biased against it :lol
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All u incels look the same to me
Its an interesting balance because the death of the welfare capitalist state is the material fuel for the unrest in the movie, but it's counterbalanced by portraying the movement in question as a group of revanchist bloodthirsty lumpen criminals getting behind a terrorist with no moral compass.
Boredfrom, you do realize any sort of political take on entertainment doesn't always mean "REEEEE" right?
Thank God, Shinobi's son's favorite superhero was there to save the day. :rejoice
But all of this comes together to make Joaquin Phoenix’s Arthur Fleck the perfect Joker for our era; something that produces a whirlwind or reaction and counter-reaction, to the point that people are absolutely positive every theater will produce one mass shooting or that Joker will replace all western canon, and after all that, we get a positively unremarkable expedition that will be forgotten by Thanksgiving, a product of a media economy where three companies who make everything keep it as efficient as possible by just making a few types of media properties and hoping people will tear each other apart in the cramped space to increase every product’s Q rating. It is an endless debate over a social phenomenon it’s not actually about, a boring culture war that will have no resolution, and a million jokes people on either side of it don’t actually have fun telling. It’s a bunch of clenched, gritting smiles that made Warner Brothers millions of dollars, and then you go home, more likely to die from boring yet equally evil indignities than getting killed at a culturally relevant event.
https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/youre-not-going-to-remember-any-of-this-shit-joker-re-1838770612 (https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/youre-not-going-to-remember-any-of-this-shit-joker-re-1838770612)QuoteBut all of this comes together to make Joaquin Phoenix’s Arthur Fleck the perfect Joker for our era; something that produces a whirlwind or reaction and counter-reaction, to the point that people are absolutely positive every theater will produce one mass shooting or that Joker will replace all western canon, and after all that, we get a positively unremarkable expedition that will be forgotten by Thanksgiving, a product of a media economy where three companies who make everything keep it as efficient as possible by just making a few types of media properties and hoping people will tear each other apart in the cramped space to increase every product’s Q rating. It is an endless debate over a social phenomenon it’s not actually about, a boring culture war that will have no resolution, and a million jokes people on either side of it don’t actually have fun telling. It’s a bunch of clenched, gritting smiles that made Warner Brothers millions of dollars, and then you go home, more likely to die from boring yet equally evil indignities than getting killed at a culturally relevant event.
so in the end it was about society
Boredfrom, you do realize any sort of political take on entertainment doesn't always mean "REEEEE" right?
The joker gets to say we live in a society, but we can't :rodney
so how was the movie
so how was the movie
the link to the full review is right there
why are you so weirdly aggro about defending this movie
then maybe you should actually read the link before being a whiny bitch about it
boredform is the incel RE fears :jeb
The Joker will be this generations Gone with the wind. You can hate it all you want, but it'll be a movie shown in every history class around the world for generations to come.
Boredfrom, are you gonna dress up like the Joker for Halloween this year? Did you dress up as Heath's Joker 10 years ago? :P
I don't speak Taco Bell. American please.
the film is inherently political due to its subject matter though, so critics have to address it politically.
The Joker will be this generations Gone with the wind. You can hate it all you want, but it'll be a movie shown in every history class around the world for generations to come.
LMAO you can't predict that type of shit.
The Joker will be this generations Gone with the wind. You can hate it all you want, but it'll be a movie shown in every history class around the world for generations to come.
LMAO you can't predict that type of shit.
I don't speak Taco Bell. American please.
The Joker will be this generations Gone with the wind. You can hate it all you want, but it'll be a movie shown in every history class around the world for generations to come.
LMAO you can't predict that type of shit.
Of course I can. I'm an expert, unlike yourself.
An expert at getting mad over woke shit, sure :doge
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Just look what Joker has done to this forum!! :notlikethishttps://www.instagram.com/p/B3ENgFdF5Er/
Just look what Joker has done to this forum!! :notlikethishttps://www.instagram.com/p/B3ENgFdF5Er/
Just look what Joker has done to this forum!! :notlikethis
Hey now. We're all gamers here, we can move past this.
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I can't believe we've reached a point where lefties are scared of comic book movies and Mortal KombatSee, I didn't leave the left, the left left me
Just look what Joker has done to this forum!! :notlikethis
Hey now. We're all gamers here, we can move past this.
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Just look what Joker has done to this forum!! :notlikethisJoker's trick.
I'm an incel now, though.
I'm an incel now, though.
I'm interested in reading the script. I feel like Todd Phillips was the wrong choice to direct it after seeing it tonight, and that it was largely saved by Phoenix's performance.(https://i.imgur.com/kIEK7pr.jpg)
Ultimately it's going to be part of the Clockwork Orange, Falling Down, and Fight Club slice of cinema/storytelling where people are too fucking meatheaded to grok what was actually attempting to be conveyed, but that's what happens in a world full of fillers.
We live in a society, brehs.
I watched the movie and all the alt-right themes that they are desperate to write about are actually not in there.
In fact if you want to make an analogy the movie has more strong left wing messaging. Such as the decline of the welfare state and social programs.
I was getting at this earlier. Its an interesting balance because the death of the welfare capitalist state is the material fuel for the unrest in the movie, but it's counterbalanced by portraying the movement in question as a group of revanchist bloodthirsty lumpen criminals getting behind a terrorist with no moral compass. The rich and powerful elites are portrayed as corrupt, but the legitimacy of the movement is undermined by it's spiritual leadership in the Joker and even it's name. They are not even interested in a set of demands other than to murder and burn the Winners in society.spoiler (click to show/hide)Kill the Rich :derp :derp :derp[close]
It's sort of an enlightened centrist big brain movie on some level. In this view nobody has a coherent / defensible political position or theory of justice and Humans Are All Shit.
primary takeaway from the movie:
the 4 high schoolers sitting next to me got up to leave at the end and one of them said "well that was worse than chemistry class"
:confused
primary takeaway from the movie:
the 4 high schoolers sitting next to me got up to leave at the end and one of them said "well that was worse than chemistry class"
:confused
I'm confused why high schoolers would even care about watching this. Did they think it was going to be an action movie?
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Saw it today.???
No lie: We're about halfway through the movie, near the part where things sort of disintegrate for Arthur. And the movie stops.
The fire alarm comes up and I'm thinking, "Holy shit, the incels are rising up."
We exit, calmly, and it turns out the entire building, a multilevel complex, is being evacuated. I don't think there was any violence or anything, but there may have been a real fire. I just caught the bus home and certainly haven't seen anything on the news.
Am debating whether to return to the theater later this week to watch the rest of the movie...
You get free tickets and more for sticking around.
Should've stayed and watched the insurrection.
I'm interested in reading the script. I feel like Todd Phillips was the wrong choice to direct it after seeing it tonight, and that it was largely saved by Phoenix's performance.There's an early copy of the script on the internet, but apparently Phillips and Phoenix rewrote a lot of it on the set. I imagine that was mostly dialogue and also some of the aspects like turning scenes into dreams/hallucinations/unclear as I figure these were more straight-forward based on what everyone got riled up about regarding the script's leak. Whole parts of the internet were freaking out over the problematic notions of Arthur's relationship with Sophie and the whole thing never happens. :lol
Ultimately it's going to be part of the Clockwork Orange, Falling Down, and Fight Club slice of cinema/storytelling where people are too fucking meatheaded to grok what was actually attempting to be conveyed, but that's what happens in a world full of fillers.
We live in a society, brehs.
- Great world building, I liked the filthy Gotham City presented hereGotham the TV series had a similar version of the city, although it also had some aspects taking after Tim Burton like weird time-displaced anachronisms.
I just saw it, it was okay.
I just saw it, it was okay.
Did it cause your hymen to grow back?
How celibate are you and was it voluntary?
I haven't seen it yet but I want to know how it compares to Mask of the Phantasm, the greatest comic book movie ever made.
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This is horrible, who would make this?
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This is horrible, who would make this?
Finally saw it.
It was really good as an origin story that I didn't think the joker needed. Certainly could run as a spin-off comic series (DC comics should bank on it with some proper storytelling)
Finally saw it.
It was really good as an origin story that I didn't think the joker needed. Certainly could run as a spin-off comic series (DC comics should bank on it with some proper storytelling)
:doge
Is called the Killing Joke.
I might be misremembering, but iirc Killing joke explicitly snubs the idea of an origin story for joker
(https://i.redd.it/5mqnlbpo4ur31.jpg)really missed an opportunity by not going with whackin’ penis
Ironically, seems that being a little hollow and shallow plays well with audiences. I don’t think is that lifeless but I feel that not going that deep avoids the film becoming outright misery porn.
I'm not really invested in the minutiae of those sort of arbitrary rankings but I think Ledger's character was a lot more potent, mysterious despite having much less time or material to work with. That's not to belittle Joker or Phoenix's performance, it's a worthwhile effort of offering a different take on the character. But there's no contest for me in that sense. The Nolan film is a massive bore on a whole, sadly.
Kind of thought the movie was pretty bad. Really boring and pointless.
Don't really know what the point of the movie was. How was this a character study beyond I guess if the world is unrelentingly terrible to a mentally disturbed man they can be pushed. Oh and it's bad if Society doesn't have outreach. Nobody cares really is'nt nuanced to me and the world presented here seems extremely dark and cynical with little actual thought behind it. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to take away from here. "You get what you deserved" seems to be the movie's thesis, but like no one who suffers in this movie deserves anything. Was Thomas Wayne a douche? I guess. Robert D? Yeah for sure, doesn't mean they deserve to be killed. But nowhere does the movie really entice me to care for Joker's fall beyond the fact that I can relate to him being in an uncaring world. He doesn't really have anything for me to tug unto that I can feel like "Man if his character just didn't have this flaw or attitude/perspective" he'd not fall. Usually antiheros or villains who you can understand have a warped view that you under the right circumstances, could see yourself agreeing with or falling into. I'm not sure what is was here beyond I guess the desire to be cared for? Maybe it would have been more powerful if his mother was genuinely caring for him, so when he does lash out you know it was just his anger and delusion blinding to the fact that there was some light in his life. Instead, everything's just bad and why should I care?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqpak5lFxvsI'd rather this was real than Joker tbqh. Seems like it has some interesting characters unlike Joker.
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I don't get why he killed his coworker, and then not the tiny guy.
Ok, fine. I did understand that but initially I felt there was an incongruity between Arthur Fleck the guy who gets back at people, and Arthur Fleck the guy who transcends the logic of society, who commits to random violence against society. In hindsight every person he killed got it coming somehow. But that's even dumber, Joker isn't Robin Hood.QuoteI don't get why he killed his coworker, and then not the tiny guy.spoiler (click to show/hide)Really? This one is pretty obvious, I thought: his coworker gave him the gun [which he didn't want] then sold him out to his boss after Fleck got in trouble at the hospital. Later, he comes over to Fleck's apartment to complain about the cops. He didn't kill Gary [the little guy], because Gary was possibly the only character in the movie who was the butt of more jokes than Fleck.[close]
At least it wasn't as bad as Black Panther.Look at this racist, hating black panther.
Ok, fine. I did understand that but initially I felt there was an incongruity between Arthur Fleck the guy who gets back at people, and Arthur Fleck the guy who transcends the logic of society, who commits to random violence against society. In hindsight every person he killed got it coming somehow. But that's even dumber, Joker isn't Robin Hood.QuoteI don't get why he killed his coworker, and then not the tiny guy.spoiler (click to show/hide)Really? This one is pretty obvious, I thought: his coworker gave him the gun [which he didn't want] then sold him out to his boss after Fleck got in trouble at the hospital. Later, he comes over to Fleck's apartment to complain about the cops. He didn't kill Gary [the little guy], because Gary was possibly the only character in the movie who was the butt of more jokes than Fleck.[close]
At least it wasn't as bad as Black Panther.Look at this racist, hating black panther.
Especially since there's literal thousands of my neighbor totoro art out there so literally lol who cares
https://twitter.com/mitchysuch/status/1183810835858231298The horror of living in a society where dudes are paying attention to T&A.
I'd hit both of them. :trumps
Yeah exactly, black panther is a legitimate masterpiece. Really it takes insane levels of genius to write a movie about how intelligence agencies backing an ethnostate monarch are inclusive and progressive heroes and they actually pulled that off. It also perfectly captures our political moment where liberals of all colors are calling on the deep state to crush unacceptable politics so it's art no matter how you slice it.Best part is that the resolution at the end is to set up charter schools in Oakland. :lawd
Ok, fine. I did understand that but initially I felt there was an incongruity between Arthur Fleck the guy who gets back at people, and Arthur Fleck the guy who transcends the logic of society, who commits to random violence against society. In hindsight every person he killed got it coming somehow. But that's even dumber, Joker isn't Robin Hood.QuoteI don't get why he killed his coworker, and then not the tiny guy.spoiler (click to show/hide)Really? This one is pretty obvious, I thought: his coworker gave him the gun [which he didn't want] then sold him out to his boss after Fleck got in trouble at the hospital. Later, he comes over to Fleck's apartment to complain about the cops. He didn't kill Gary [the little guy], because Gary was possibly the only character in the movie who was the butt of more jokes than Fleck.[close]
Righty-O
Back to Joker talk
https://youtu.be/wNyd7uuDjpM
https://voiceofthehwy.news/instagrammers-risk-getting-robbed-recreating-joker-scene-the-bronx-is-not-a-friendly-place/
:trumpsad
And at least Black Panther wasn't as bad as Thor Ragnarok.mods help
https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/dljnw6/a_guy_dressed_up_as_the_joker_leading_the_protest/
(https://i.imgur.com/fI3GQAM.jpg)
I can't believe this is real :lol
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEXM3GIVwAEjnRH.jpg)
(https://i.redd.it/0iu52u7612q31.jpg)no, no, the suggestion of that account was actually a clever joke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIr52d-SPm4
:rejoice
Bragging about content you made for 4chan, Joker avatar
:yikes
ok boomer
I wanna see da jokah again
https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2019/11/08/box-office-dc-films-joker-tops-955-million-to-become-more-profitable-than-deadpool-venom-and-batman/Thanks to all the free advertising from the news media lmao
I might be misremembering, but iirc Killing joke explicitly snubs the idea of an origin story for joker
…how do you get this from The Killing Joke? It's Joker's origin story, straight up. It's the contrast of how Batman's pathology turns him driven to enforce order through justice, where Joker's pushes him to enact chaos because the universe is inherently unjust.(https://geekwisdom.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/joker-origin-killing-joke.jpg)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2019/11/15/box-office-joker-tops-1-billion/
nooooooooooooooooo
https://twitter.com/i/events/1197160355824168961
Joker rising up again
https://twitter.com/i/events/1197160355824168961
Joker rising up again
bitter old quasi fascist frank miller batman would be an obvious shout (not the watered down snyder version either), but they've already gone with a pretty boy.
nah, he's way past that now.
at least, with the roles he's done and being offered.
…how do you get this from The Killing Joke? It's Joker's origin story, straight up. It's the contrast of how Batman's pathology turns him driven to enforce order through justice, where Joker's pushes him to enact chaos because the universe is inherently unjust.(https://geekwisdom.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/joker-origin-killing-joke.jpg)
like boredfrom pointed out just below my previous post, some people read this panel more strongly than others
e: the strong reading is that joker’s been fudging/omitting information, if not just completely making shit up. Some people like that because they like a joker who’s this manipulative and because it salvages the mystique around the character. Its also completely compatible that the details of the ‘origin story’ are bunk, but that they genuinely illustrate the themes that you mention above.
https://twitter.com/i/events/1197160355824168961
Joker rising up again
https://twitter.com/i/events/1197160355824168961
Joker rising up again
Not sure how they can make a sequel but I’m just glad that everyone forgot about Jared Leto’s Joker already.
:joker :joker :joker :joker :joker :joker
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1319107456929247240
:joker :joker :joker :joker :joker :joker
https://youtu.be/MTb1JfJ6PdA
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