THE BORE

General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: nachobro on December 12, 2019, 09:23:19 PM

Title: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: nachobro on December 12, 2019, 09:23:19 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELoe_OYX0AEdKlL?format=jpg&name=medium)

it's a box with an x on it. also the dpad is like the elite dpad. next gen :jeb
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: EightBitNate on December 12, 2019, 09:25:21 PM
I kinda like it.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: BisMarckie on December 12, 2019, 09:25:51 PM
I am one of these idiots who buys consoles on launch day every time.
Hopefully we‘ll get 100% backwards compatibility and not only a limited catalogue like on xbox one.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: demi on December 12, 2019, 09:27:27 PM
What do you mean limited compatibility? All current XB1 games, and BC games, will work on Scarlet/Series X
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: BisMarckie on December 12, 2019, 09:29:49 PM
What do you mean limited compatibility? All current XB1 games, and BC games, will work on Scarlet/Series X

Didn‘t know about that, that‘s awesome.

 I will still keep my xbox one in the basement, just in case.  :doge
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: nachobro on December 12, 2019, 09:35:49 PM
https://twitter.com/GameSpot/status/1205310693936975872

some info in here

- footprint is approx as wide as an x1 controller and as tall as three
- supposedly just as quiet as x1x
- controller has a share button ::)
- x1 controllers work on the new console, xsx controllers also work on x1 and pc
- has an NVMe SSD
- can use instant resume on multiple games
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: OnlyRegret on December 12, 2019, 09:37:32 PM
what do you get for sacrificing people to it?
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: BisMarckie on December 12, 2019, 09:38:34 PM
I don’t think I can fit this thing in my tv stand though. Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to make a console which looks like it can‘t be placed horizontally.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: tiesto on December 12, 2019, 09:42:55 PM
Looks more like a subwoofer than a console...
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: bork on December 12, 2019, 09:43:45 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELoe_OYX0AEdKlL?format=jpg&name=medium)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41PGBPY97GL.jpg)

:thinking
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Bebpo on December 12, 2019, 09:44:23 PM
haha
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: BisMarckie on December 12, 2019, 09:47:34 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELoe_OYX0AEdKlL?format=jpg&name=medium)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41PGBPY97GL.jpg)

:thinking

thicc ps2  :noah
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Let's Cyber on December 12, 2019, 09:52:09 PM
Xbox 360, Xbox One and Xbox One X were already awful names, might as well keep with tradition.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 12, 2019, 09:53:08 PM
I was hoping they'd make back paddles standard on the new console controllers (once you get used to them you can't really go back to regular controllers), oh well
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Don Rumata on December 12, 2019, 09:54:01 PM
what do you get for sacrificing people to it?
Microsoft is going to sacrifice studios to it.  ;)
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Let's Cyber on December 12, 2019, 09:56:30 PM
2025: We're proud to announce the new gaming system from Microsoft, the X-X XXXXXX X!
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on December 12, 2019, 09:56:52 PM
Microsoft should put Tetsuya Nomura in charge of naming all products for a while for a nice refreshing change-up
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: naff on December 12, 2019, 10:21:24 PM
hmm
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Tripon on December 12, 2019, 10:47:57 PM
Just put Windows on the damn thing.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: remy on December 12, 2019, 10:49:09 PM
https://twitter.com/GameSpot/status/1205310693936975872

some info in here

- footprint is approx as wide as an x1 controller and as tall as three
- supposedly just as quiet as x1x
- controller has a share button ::)
- x1 controllers work on the new console, xsx controllers also work on x1 and pc
- has an NVMe SSD
- can use instant resume on multiple games

this one was the lie last gen   >:(
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: demi on December 12, 2019, 10:52:09 PM
Just put Windows on the damn thing.

Xbox OS is technically Windows afaik

Quote
The Xbox One console runs on an operating system that includes the Windows 10 core, although initially it included the Windows 8 core at the Xbox One's release.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 12, 2019, 11:04:54 PM
Xbox 360, Xbox One and Xbox One X were already awful names, might as well keep with tradition.

Absolute bottom-tier naming convention, on par with Nintendo thinking it was a good idea to follow up the Wii with the Wii U.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: remy on December 12, 2019, 11:06:43 PM
Microsoft should put Tetsuya Nomura in charge of naming all products for a while for a nice refreshing change-up
Xbox Versus so they can look equal to PSV
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: mormapope on December 12, 2019, 11:16:53 PM
The original OG XBOX was a BBW beefcake and a fucking ugly fat hog and I love that design. Beefbox is  back!  I expect access to my library of 600 games, and game pass, if I get it at launch.

I'm happy and excited. Don't give a shit about naming conventions or gimmicks. I expect the PS5 to be pretty similar to this.

Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: benjipwns on December 12, 2019, 11:38:14 PM
Looks more like a subwoofer than a console...
That's a wine cooler breh
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: OnlyRegret on December 12, 2019, 11:40:43 PM
so unless "series" is being horribly misused, this seems like it'll be a family of systems, or maybe fxmily

Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: benjipwns on December 12, 2019, 11:49:11 PM
so unless "series" is being horribly misused, this seems like it'll be a family of systems, or maybe fxmily
Lockhart, etc.

They realized they couldn't use model numbers if there was a number in the name again.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Boredfrom on December 12, 2019, 11:55:39 PM
WAIT A MINUTE!

THIS IS THE ACTUAL NEW CONSOLE !?

I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST ANOTHER REVISION.

this is a WiiU situation.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: demi on December 13, 2019, 12:08:39 AM
The naming is going to confuse people - Grandma gonna swoop up that Xbox One X because it was $100 cheaper for Christmas then get tossed down the stairs
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: demi on December 13, 2019, 12:12:26 AM
Anyway I'm prob gonna cop at launch. Still riding high on my free XB1 I won out of the blue, time for an upgrade - and everything gets to come with me
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 13, 2019, 12:13:42 AM
I mean you're not lying. During my days at Target, parents were confused about the One S over the Xbox One.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: OnlyRegret on December 13, 2019, 12:16:40 AM
Xbox Series X of the entry Xbox StandardX, midlevel Xbox EliteX and pro Xbox X2

Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: kingv on December 13, 2019, 12:23:58 AM
Xbox 360, Xbox One and Xbox One X were already awful names, might as well keep with tradition.

Absolute bottom-tier naming convention, on par with Nintendo thinking it was a good idea to follow up the Wii with the Wii U.

Yeah, that is pretty similar. It's going to confuse people.

Should have went with Xbox Vert :doge
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: thisismyusername on December 13, 2019, 12:26:05 AM
Just put Windows on the damn thing.

No fucking lie, if MS and Valve got together, put Windows/Steam on it, fucking consoles would be over. Full stop. Give us that "one console" future already Jesus Christ.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 13, 2019, 12:34:49 AM
what do you get for sacrificing people to it?

A new cosmetic skin that looks just like whoever you sacrificed to it!
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Tasty on December 13, 2019, 12:38:46 AM
Lulz this is pretty bad.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: EchoRin on December 13, 2019, 02:00:46 AM
Kinda looks like 2 Gamecubes  (Jet Black color) duct taped together vertically.  :smug

More seriously though at least from the more multiside view it seems more like a desktop case rather than a console.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: MMaRsu on December 13, 2019, 03:01:41 AM
The naming is going to confuse people - Grandma gonna swoop up that Xbox One X because it was $100 cheaper for Christmas then get tossed down the stairs

Grandma or the Xbox?

bof
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 13, 2019, 03:47:01 AM
Looks cool and industrial

Horrbile name though

Will prob buy this over PS5 due to GamePass
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 13, 2019, 03:56:00 AM
Just seems like a great service.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Rufus on December 13, 2019, 04:24:18 AM
This name :lol Next one should be xXBOXx.

Very surprised by the design though.

Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Trent Dole on December 13, 2019, 05:35:34 AM
It's the XXX! :teehee
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: BlueTsunami on December 13, 2019, 07:06:57 AM
It's like they said fuck it to any engineering for cooling in a sleek design. A PC for the plebs.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Rufus on December 13, 2019, 07:14:35 AM
Count on Sony to make something sleek that ends up sounding like a jet engine in a year. 8)
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: mormapope on December 13, 2019, 07:43:46 AM
Lulz this is pretty bad.

Nah.

Xbox One's reveal and strategy as a console almost killed Xbox in the span of a year. It is not debatable that Xbox One initially was PS3 reveal bad if not worse. It took years and tons of resources for Xbox One to be salvaged.

This new Xbox will be a powerful box to play games on. The PS5 will be a powerful box to play games on. It'll come down to software preferences, software features, and whether or not someone wants VR with their console (PS5 being the only choice).

It's really fucking nice that Xbox X is gonna be a dedicated gaming console. It's not a cable box/Kinect or motion control/ride the wave box.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: BlueTsunami on December 13, 2019, 08:04:42 AM
Count on Sony to make something sleek that ends up sounding like a jet engine in a year. 8)

I hope it's that giant V monstrosity cause reasons
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: benjipwns on December 13, 2019, 08:05:49 AM
I don’t think I can fit this thing in my tv stand though. Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to make a console which looks like it can‘t be placed horizontally.
FACT CHECK:
Quote from: https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2019/12/12/microsoft-unveils-xbox-series-x/
We also designed Xbox Series X to support both vertical and horizontal orientation. It’s bold and unique, very much like our fans around the world and the team of collaborators and innovators who built it.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Tasty on December 13, 2019, 08:54:21 AM
Lulz this is pretty bad.

Nah.

Xbox One's reveal and strategy as a console almost killed Xbox in the span of a year. It is not debatable that Xbox One initially was PS3 reveal bad if not worse. It took years and tons of resources for Xbox One to be salvaged.

This new Xbox will be a powerful box to play games on. The PS5 will be a powerful box to play games on. It'll come down to software preferences, software features, and whether or not someone wants VR with their console (PS5 being the only choice).

It's really fucking nice that Xbox X is gonna be a dedicated gaming console. It's not a cable box/Kinect or motion control/ride the wave box.

I just meant naming wise. It's Wii U tier. Xstans are going to be working overtime next gen explaining why it's a good name. ::)

Console wise, it's gotta have something to get back the people who went PS4 this gen. Not sure if it has any special sauce there, looks like another plastic box with an X on it. I suppose if you care about POWAH it's attractive tho.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Tasty on December 13, 2019, 08:56:29 AM
Quote
One of the things we’re most proud of with Xbox Series X is the promise we’re delivering to our fans who have and continue to invest with Xbox. Thanks to backward compatibility, you can expect your gaming legacy, thousands of your favorite games across four generations of gaming, all your Xbox One gaming accessories, and industry-leading services like Xbox Game Pass to be available when you power on your Xbox Series X in Holiday 2020.

This strategy is also very Wii U esque. :thinking
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: demi on December 13, 2019, 09:24:38 AM
You can set it horizontal or vertical
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Tasty on December 13, 2019, 09:26:10 AM
Hope dunkey's doing a vid :lawd
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: demi on December 13, 2019, 09:34:19 AM
One Console, Four Generations of Gaming

Quote from: https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2019/12/12/microsoft-unveils-xbox-series-x/
One of the things we’re most proud of with Xbox Series X is the promise we’re delivering to our fans who have and continue to invest with Xbox. Thanks to backward compatibility, you can expect your gaming legacy, thousands of your favorite games across four generations of gaming, all your Xbox One gaming accessories, and industry-leading services like Xbox Game Pass to be available when you power on your Xbox Series X in Holiday 2020.

Funny how this is how I envisioned PS4 back in the day (2012 - 2013) - that it will allow to play PS1, 2 and 3 games with BC.

The Dream is dead. Thanks Sony.

For reference this is only talking about what's currently BC. Whether more BC games get added after release remains to be seen, but you won't be able to pop in Jet Set Radio Future and expect it to work
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: mormapope on December 13, 2019, 09:57:02 AM
Lulz this is pretty bad.

Nah.

Xbox One's reveal and strategy as a console almost killed Xbox in the span of a year. It is not debatable that Xbox One initially was PS3 reveal bad if not worse. It took years and tons of resources for Xbox One to be salvaged.

This new Xbox will be a powerful box to play games on. The PS5 will be a powerful box to play games on. It'll come down to software preferences, software features, and whether or not someone wants VR with their console (PS5 being the only choice).

It's really fucking nice that Xbox X is gonna be a dedicated gaming console. It's not a cable box/Kinect or motion control/ride the wave box.

I just meant naming wise. It's Wii U tier. Xstans are going to be working overtime next gen explaining why it's a good name. ::)

Console wise, it's gotta have something to get back the people who went PS4 this gen. Not sure if it has any special sauce there, looks like another plastic box with an X on it. I suppose if you care about POWAH it's attractive tho.

That's console wars rhetoric. I don't care if they win back those people. If the console can exist with a sizable userbase, who gives a shit?

Quote
One of the things we’re most proud of with Xbox Series X is the promise we’re delivering to our fans who have and continue to invest with Xbox. Thanks to backward compatibility, you can expect your gaming legacy, thousands of your favorite games across four generations of gaming, all your Xbox One gaming accessories, and industry-leading services like Xbox Game Pass to be available when you power on your Xbox Series X in Holiday 2020.

This strategy is also very Wii U esque. :thinking

Yes, providing something valuable to people such as the ability to play games from the entire library of consoles is totally something out if the Wii-U playbook.

Being a professional games forum poster, what Microsoft should've done is release a motion controlled pogo stick with always online required bounce capability. Also, don't fuss around with BC, I only want Xbox Pogo games pls.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Don Rumata on December 13, 2019, 09:57:46 AM
The name is going to be confuding as fuck for people, but i honestly love the design.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Akala on December 13, 2019, 10:09:41 AM
I think it’s dope. Will move x to bedroom or trade towards, who knows. Wonder if I can just plug in the external and have access to all of that hassle-free.

If I didn’t already have an X and game pass forever I’d probably do the monthly/service option that includes upgrade to new one next year.

Curious to see how it shakes out, they are winning over a lot of enthusiasts with How they’ve handled game pass but not sure if it’s translating to mainstream tbh.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: headwalk on December 13, 2019, 10:49:35 AM
if MS are smart, it'll be base model modular PC that runs a big screen mode of windows 10 (with full library compatibility), swappable components that are even more distinguished mentally-challenged fellow proof than modern PC parts (like N64 RAM pack tier complexity) and also register with the OS so the game settings scale automatically.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: mormapope on December 13, 2019, 10:52:30 AM
I think it’s dope. Will move x to bedroom or trade towards, who knows. Wonder if I can just plug in the external and have access to all of that hassle-free.

If I didn’t already have an X and game pass forever I’d probably do the monthly/service option that includes upgrade to new one next year.

Curious to see how it shakes out, they are winning over a lot of enthusiasts with How they’ve handled game pass but not sure if it’s translating to mainstream tbh.

It does feel tailored entirely to enthusiasts. With game pass, it makes buying the console at launch alluring due to instant access to a lot of games and any first party launch games.

If Halo is ready to go at launch, all a lot of people would need is the console itself and game pass. Being able to use Xbone controllers too, you wouldn't need to buy an extra controller for local co op or multiplayer.

This will be the first console launch where you can walk out of the store with a console/controller bundle and be set with everything else.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: nachobro on December 13, 2019, 11:01:42 AM
The name has grown on me a bit overnight. Like i said in the other thread I'm gonna end up getting it anyway cause I have years of game pass.

Dunno if I'll get it at launch, probably not unless some place is offering a good trade in deal on the x1x
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: BisMarckie on December 13, 2019, 11:21:36 AM
I don’t think I can fit this thing in my tv stand though. Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to make a console which looks like it can‘t be placed horizontally.

But it can be placed horizontally.. they are showing off how it can be vertical unlike the Xbox One.

THAT WASN‘T CLEAR AFTER I ONLY LOOKED AT THE FIRST PICTURES WITHOUT AMY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION

STOP BULLYING ME.  :maf
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Tasty on December 13, 2019, 12:55:46 PM
https://kotaku.com/the-xbox-series-x-has-nicknames-like-sex-and-butt-x-1840409429

Xbox SEX here, "Butt X" in Japan. :lol
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: BlueTsunami on December 13, 2019, 01:39:58 PM
Xbutt Sex
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 13, 2019, 01:52:16 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/YySR7Wr.jpg)
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: CatsCatsCats on December 13, 2019, 03:09:06 PM
Lololol yeah, uh huh
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: bork on December 13, 2019, 04:20:26 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/WendysCanada/status/1205577307810910209
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: bork on December 13, 2019, 04:26:14 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELser_IU0AAVQYW?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Tasty on December 13, 2019, 04:32:49 PM
Table should have some coke next to the PS5 :awesome
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Tuckers Law on December 13, 2019, 05:12:59 PM
Just seems like a great service.

I mean it sure is but who says Sony will not do anything similiar for PS5?

Probably whatever ancient Japanese mummies-for-senior management left in the company that are likely already mortified by how they have been giving “free” games away on PS+.  I’m sure they already see PS Now (lol) as their alternative to gamepass.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Don Rumata on December 13, 2019, 05:23:31 PM
Gamepass is only this good because Xbox has a lot of ground to cover and no fresh exclusives.
It's safe to assume the price will go up significantly and the offer of games diminish, once they reach a better market position.

That is not to say that it isn't a great offer right now, but what is the point for Sony to give away "free" shit, when they are comfortably on top, in the space? Overconfidence bit them in the ass before though, so who knows.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 13, 2019, 05:25:18 PM
Gamepass does nothing for me. Yeah I’ve been able to easily try things out that maybe I wouldn’t have but right now it’s meh to me. Mostly because MS first party is weak and I’m sorry I wasn’t going to wait to play Devil May Cry 5. Even then most third parties don’t seem to be excited to put thier new games on there day 1. I’m sure not waiting to play Resident Evil 3, Cyperpunk, and so on.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Tuckers Law on December 13, 2019, 05:30:40 PM
I’ll be shocked if they don’t increase the price if successful, ala the occasional Netflix price increase.

I also guarantee that if the console is successful enough, there will be games not included (probably some aloof 3rd-parties like square Enix).
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: kingv on December 13, 2019, 06:05:08 PM
I think as long as they are releasing 3 or 4 MS published games/year it’s probably still a pretty good deal for a lot of people.

It’s one of those things I sort of signed up for on a lark and now I think it’s pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Nintex on December 13, 2019, 06:13:54 PM
XBOX SERIES X

If the price is right I'll pick one up.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 13, 2019, 07:08:44 PM
I hope they stay second or last place, they try harder with things like backwards compatibility, do weird shit like the elite controller, and give me free stuff. Sony's arrogant again, they're all like "Game pass? How about you pass us some money and buy a game, motherfucker?"
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: BisMarckie on December 13, 2019, 07:12:58 PM
Too be fair though, they are investing in their PS Now catalogue. They have some neat games on there and their PS 3 streaming tech works well enough. It‘s not comparable to game pass yet, but they could easily get there.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: bork on December 13, 2019, 08:07:41 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELqQLdjXkAA7kyT?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on December 13, 2019, 09:54:17 PM
I just meant naming wise. It's Wii U tier. Xstans are going to be working overtime next gen explaining why it's a good name. ::)

It's good because Xbox consoles are like the Fast and the Furious series at this point, everyone expects a new and different dumb naming convention for each new model so they have to deliver.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Raist on December 14, 2019, 12:06:28 AM
Just put Windows on the damn thing.

No fucking lie, if MS and Valve got together, put Windows/Steam on it, fucking consoles would be over. Full stop. Give us that "one console" future already Jesus Christ.


Yeah cause that Steambox thing went well.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: mormapope on December 14, 2019, 12:08:20 AM
Gamepass does nothing for me. Yeah I’ve been able to easily try things out that maybe I wouldn’t have but right now it’s meh to me. Mostly because MS first party is weak and I’m sorry I wasn’t going to wait to play Devil May Cry 5. Even then most third parties don’t seem to be excited to put thier new games on there day 1. I’m sure not waiting to play Resident Evil 3, Cyperpunk, and so on.

I mean, the Yakuza series had been like one of two reasons why I've wanted a PS4. Game Pass is gonna get...three Yakuza games I think? My point being not that I don't need a PS4 now, more of Microsoft's reach and ambition for Game Pass will only grow.

It's also effectively changed "wait for a sale" to "wait until it's on game pass". Buying games day 1 is basically reserved for AAAA games at this point.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: demi on December 14, 2019, 12:50:44 AM
Game Pass rules
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 14, 2019, 01:14:38 AM
Gamepass does nothing for me. Yeah I’ve been able to easily try things out that maybe I wouldn’t have but right now it’s meh to me. Mostly because MS first party is weak and I’m sorry I wasn’t going to wait to play Devil May Cry 5. Even then most third parties don’t seem to be excited to put thier new games on there day 1. I’m sure not waiting to play Resident Evil 3, Cyperpunk, and so on.

I mean, the Yakuza series had been like one of two reasons why I've wanted a PS4. Game Pass is gonna get...three Yakuza games I think? My point being not that I don't need a PS4 now, more of Microsoft's reach and ambition for Game Pass will only grow.

It's also effectively changed "wait for a sale" to "wait until it's on game pass". Buying games day 1 is basically reserved for AAAA games at this point.
But I mean I played Yakuza 0 years ago. I played those three Yakuza games when they came out because I’m a fan and wouldn’t want to wait till they came to Game Pass.

But I don’t think you’re example is some great show of reach an ambition. These are games Sega has made most of thier money on and was no doubt probably fine with MS paying for it. They probably are paying for the port like they are with Phantasy Star. Call me when Yakuza 8 comes day 1 on Xbox, PS5, and Game Pass.

So that’s my point. Game Pass is cool I guess, but I’m not seeing third parties feel the desire to put their titles on there in a first run way.

Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: mormapope on December 14, 2019, 01:44:32 AM
Gamepass does nothing for me. Yeah I’ve been able to easily try things out that maybe I wouldn’t have but right now it’s meh to me. Mostly because MS first party is weak and I’m sorry I wasn’t going to wait to play Devil May Cry 5. Even then most third parties don’t seem to be excited to put thier new games on there day 1. I’m sure not waiting to play Resident Evil 3, Cyperpunk, and so on.

I mean, the Yakuza series had been like one of two reasons why I've wanted a PS4. Game Pass is gonna get...three Yakuza games I think? My point being not that I don't need a PS4 now, more of Microsoft's reach and ambition for Game Pass will only grow.

It's also effectively changed "wait for a sale" to "wait until it's on game pass". Buying games day 1 is basically reserved for AAAA games at this point.
But I mean I played Yakuza 0 years ago. I played those three Yakuza games when they came out because I’m a fan and wouldn’t want to wait till they came to Game Pass.

But I don’t think you’re example is some great show of reach an ambition. These are games Sega has made most of thier money on and was no doubt probably fine with MS paying for it. They probably are paying for the port like they are with Phantasy Star. Call me when Yakuza 8 comes day 1 on Xbox, PS5, and Game Pass.

So that’s my point. Game Pass is cool I guess, but I’m not seeing third parties feel the desire to put their titles on there in a first run way.

Tbh it sounds like you want a very premium subscription service that would be $30 a month minimum. If you feel Game Pass is currently meh, I don't think you're the type that would be into almost any subscription service for games.

There's nothing wrong with that either. As it stands though, the value outright is pretty great for most people.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Svejk on December 14, 2019, 10:41:06 AM
PS Plus started off great too..  :doge
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Don Rumata on December 14, 2019, 10:57:40 AM
In 10 or 15 years, 20 at best, they'll all move to a service oriented model, i think.
Even beyond the idea of streaming, a more open approach to releasing all games on all platforms, as long as you get people into your service, is the more probable future in my opinion.
Isn't a console especially profitable BECAUSE you get people locked into your own ecosystem, anyway? Even 10 years ago, getting people into XBLGold seemed more crucial for Microsoft, than having them buy the plastic box.

Ironically, maybe Nintendo will be the last one to "go 3rd party", because they seem to love fucking with esoteric hardware so much.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: paprikastaude on December 14, 2019, 11:08:42 AM
Blurays are still a thing and iirc even CDs. There will be hardware and physical media as long as there is people who don't want to get fucked over by companies pay up for it, which will be for a long time still.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: kingv on December 14, 2019, 11:18:47 AM
I’m guessing the economics of game pass work out for publishers mostly because game sales are so front-loaded.

Almost everything goes on sale for <$20 within a year of release, so whatever opportunity cost there is to listing on Gamepass is probably outweighed by whatever money hats they are getting.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Don Rumata on December 14, 2019, 12:39:10 PM
Blurays are still a thing and iirc even CDs. There will be hardware and physical media as long as there is people who don't want to get fucked over by companies pay up for it, which will be for a long time still.
A lot can change in 20 years.
My guess is physical media will just become line vynil, very high end collector stuff, and the "box with a disc, without even a manual" will just go away eventually.

Also, the idea of not getting fucked over if you buy a disc is silly, since 80% of games nowadays require a patch on Day 1 to even function decently, nevermind various forms of online integration and DRM.
Which ofcourse is even truer for genres like GAAS.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: BisMarckie on December 14, 2019, 01:33:01 PM
Blurays are still a thing and iirc even CDs. There will be hardware and physical media as long as there is people who don't want to get fucked over by companies pay up for it, which will be for a long time still.
A lot can change in 20 years.
My guess is physical media will just become line vynil, very high end collector stuff, and the "box with a disc, without even a manual" will just go away eventually.

Also, the idea of not getting fucked over if you buy a disc is silly, since 80% of games nowadays require a patch on Day 1 to even function decently, nevermind various forms of online integration and DRM.
Which ofcourse is even truer for genres like GAAS.

With custom firmware, you could patch your games yourself though.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Nintex on December 14, 2019, 01:36:50 PM
Streaming in 4K is getting better but the difference between popping a 4K HDR Blu-Ray in my Xbox One X and Netflix 4K streaming is still significant enough to watch my favorite films physical.
Now I admit my LG OLED is of a rare quality that won't be mainstream for another 2 - 3 years, if ever. Now for games it is vastly different as they already require installs. And with the SSD's loading from your HDD should finally be significantly faster than streaming from the disk (which sometimes still outperforms the slow as fuck HDD's of the current gen consoles).
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: paprikastaude on December 14, 2019, 02:00:10 PM
Blurays are still a thing and iirc even CDs. There will be hardware and physical media as long as there is people who don't want to get fucked over by companies pay up for it, which will be for a long time still.
A lot can change in 20 years.
My guess is physical media will just become line vynil, very high end collector stuff, and the "box with a disc, without even a manual" will just go away eventually.

Also, the idea of not getting fucked over if you buy a disc is silly, since 80% of games nowadays require a patch on Day 1 to even function decently, nevermind various forms of online integration and DRM.
Which ofcourse is even truer for genres like GAAS.

I keep my consoles offline/games unpatched and I think there was only two or three singleplayer games ever for which I really needed the updates. Most unplayable AAA games from EA or whatever are trash either way, plus even those still get physical GotY editions at worst.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: nudemacusers on December 14, 2019, 02:04:55 PM
A couple years ago I realized I didn’t care about “owning” media. Like... at all. A/v media and game subs all day. The only shit I buy are kids movies cuz the lil fukks can’t wait for Netflix etc   >:(

I like the thicc box tbh. Not sure if it will .. ahem fit tho  :-[
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: BisMarckie on December 14, 2019, 02:16:55 PM
A couple years ago I realized I didn’t care about “owning” media. Like... at all. A/v media and game subs all day. The only shit I buy are kids movies cuz the lil fukks can’t wait for Netflix etc   >:(

I like the thicc box tbh. Not sure if it will .. ahem fit tho  :-[

I am the opposite, I didn't give a shit about owning physical media. In fact I threw out a lot of games because they were taking up space. Now I am buying the same games again that I threw in the trash less than 5 years ago.  :existential
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Chooky on December 14, 2019, 02:32:17 PM
There's too many people that'll stick to physical media for it to go away. Maybe in 30 years when most people grew up never having to own a piece of media it'll happen but it's not changing that soon IMO.

The change to digital only will happen sooner than that because companies will force it as soon as its viable. the only people that really care otherwise are collector nerds and I'm sure there'll be plenty of companies that will make a handful of physical releases just to cater to that crowd.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: paprikastaude on December 14, 2019, 02:41:14 PM
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Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 14, 2019, 03:03:27 PM
I buy digital, but only in rare cases do I pay full retail or launch prices. I got burned a couple of times buying games on Steam at full retail a few years ago, before refunds existed. I'll still opt for discs if I can because a trash game on disc can be sold or traded in, whereas a trash digital game is forever in your library reminding you of the time you handed over $60 and let someone shit in your palm. I have a special Shit/Bin category on Steam just for that stuff.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Fifstar on December 14, 2019, 03:17:22 PM
I like Games Pass partly because I don't own the games. When I open my Steam backlog I get disgusted at myself. With gamepass, I always have something new to play without the bad feeling of not having got my money worth from old games in my backlog. I also don't replay games after I beat them (so I don't care if games get removed a year later) and I like just fooling around in games for a couple of hours - again wouldn't  be worth to buy those games outright.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 14, 2019, 03:45:23 PM
I buy digital, but only in rare cases do I pay full retail or launch prices. I got burned a couple of times buying games on Steam at full retail a few years ago, before refunds existed. I'll still opt for discs if I can because a trash game on disc can be sold or traded in, whereas a trash digital game is forever in your library reminding you of the time you handed over $60 and let someone shit in your palm. I have a special Shit/Bin category on Steam just for that stuff.

Great minds...

(https://i.imgur.com/QQSXBxu.png)

If I pay full price for a pc game, it's gonna be for something I *KNOW* for a fact I will either unconditionally enjoy or at the very least can just play for a shit ton of hours and then lie to myself and say I got my money's worth. If I have any question at all... I'll just get it on PS4 or Switch, then at the very least I have the option of selling it to GS for credit or cash (easy) or ebaying the fucker (annoying)

I have yet to sign up for gamepass on pc because frankly I don't have a lot of time to play games anymore, and I already have a stupid large backlog of shit on steam that I know for a fact I want to play, even some shit I paid full or close to full price for (Tyranny, Torment, etc) but can't find the time to fuck with.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 14, 2019, 06:14:38 PM
I don't know. People thought digital was the future last gen. And this generation I feel like if anything physical came back. Plenty of games have gotten physical releases or re-releases when last gen they probably would have been digital. Probably lots of reasons for this, maybe one of them being comcast thinks its cool to give me a 1tb monthly limit.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: mormapope on December 14, 2019, 08:24:20 PM
A couple years ago I realized I didn’t care about “owning” media. Like... at all. A/v media and game subs all day. The only shit I buy are kids movies cuz the lil fukks can’t wait for Netflix etc   >:(

I like the thicc box tbh. Not sure if it will .. ahem fit tho  :-[

I'm in this camp 100%.

There's a lot to lose in life. If the civilized world falls, I'm going to be worried about my access to pussy, physical and digital, a lot more than videogames.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: nudemacusers on December 15, 2019, 04:17:41 AM
A couple years ago I realized I didn’t care about “owning” media. Like... at all. A/v media and game subs all day. The only shit I buy are kids movies cuz the lil fukks can’t wait for Netflix etc   >:(

I like the thicc box tbh. Not sure if it will .. ahem fit tho  :-[

I'm in this camp 100%.

There's a lot to lose in life. If the civilized world falls, I'm going to be worried about my access to pussy, physical and digital, a lot more than videogames.
I also move a lot and got real tired of unpacking boxes of movies. Now I have an appletv and a cord.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Tasty on December 15, 2019, 09:36:43 AM
Stadia poised to capitalize on this new games-as-a-service economy :awesome
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 15, 2019, 03:03:01 PM
Stadia poised to capitalize on this new games-as-a-service economy :awesome

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Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: paprikastaude on December 15, 2019, 03:43:52 PM
Stadia is fucking dead :juicy I might sub to Gamepass streaming every now and then, so I can catch up on MS exclusives that half-interest me (if at all). On the other hand, a real Series X might be better to have access to all the bc  :thinking
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: naff on December 15, 2019, 03:47:39 PM
if sony and m$ actually push devs to target 8k compatibility with this shit i hope they both diaf and nintendo win
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 15, 2019, 04:43:07 PM
if sony and m$ actually push devs to target 8k compatibility with this shit i hope they both diaf and nintendo win

They should be pushing for 4k/60 and maaaaaaybe 8k/30 if anything. So few people have 8k tvs/monitors that it's like, who cares? Besides, in 3 years or whatever this just gives them the opportunity to release the PS5 tryhard edition and Xbox Series Buttplug or what have you that can do 8k.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: BIONIC on December 15, 2019, 04:51:55 PM
https://youtu.be/e5aUMyYLvAI
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: mormapope on December 15, 2019, 04:54:13 PM
4K has replaced 1080p at this point, and with how long console generations are, 8K will be common enough in three years.

60 fps will never ever be the standard. A videogame console with the power to explore our Galaxy will mostly have 64k resolution rendering with 30 fps, with drops.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 15, 2019, 05:01:53 PM
Im not upgrading my 1080p tv before it break :trumps

Got a fucking low latency beauty (<20ms)
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: mormapope on December 15, 2019, 05:08:50 PM
Im using a 1080p monitor. Doesn't change that the majority of new options are 4k and are at the same price point 1080p displays were a few years ago.

Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Nintex on December 15, 2019, 06:33:31 PM
4K is the norm for most displays now and I think 8k will be added to most larger mainstream panels soon enough.
Although most 8k content will just be 4k upscaled.

Most movies are now shot in 4k, with 1440p/2k or sometimes 1080p commonly used for special effects and CG rendering. Because of this most Marvel/DC Comics movies are not native 4K.
Games are either using 4k assets or 1080p assets upscaled to 4k with dynamic resolution scalers etc.

For 8k to become big, we first need to get to 4k assets for the majority of video games and 4k special effects for the majority of movies.
Then we'll move to upscaling 4k to 8k and eventually 8k assets.

4k is nice but coming from a 1440p monitor the real game changer on my 4K OLED for me was HDR.  :o
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: bork on December 15, 2019, 07:48:20 PM
8K is never going to be common for consumers.

"640K is more memory than anyone will ever need on a computer" -Bill Gates
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: naff on December 15, 2019, 07:54:56 PM
8K is never going to be common for consumers.

"640K is more memory than anyone will ever need on a computer" -Bill Gates

:rage
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: naff on December 15, 2019, 08:02:37 PM
I'd bet heavily on 8k being an eventual flop. it is completely pointless from a scientific standpoint, increases costs of film and game dev significantly and is a terrible decision for consumers.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 15, 2019, 08:06:45 PM
Were there even theaters in the US that could show Gemini Man at 4k if you wanted to see it?

I'm not sure the 4k and 8k takeover is happening even in the next decade.

And lets be honest, the PS5 and Xbox Series X are still going to be playing games at 1080p, 1440p, and maybe 4k.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Don Rumata on December 15, 2019, 08:08:31 PM
Watch 4K on compressed to hell streaming services, brehs!  :doge
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: mormapope on December 15, 2019, 08:09:14 PM
It took almost 20 years for 1080p to get into 75% of house holds, expecting people to do 4K and then 8K when there is still a significant chunk of the US using CRTs still is absurd. DVDs still outsell bluray and people jumped more from DVD to streaming than bluray. For 8K you're going to need a new absurdly expensive TV, a new disc player, start your collection all over AGAIN, and if you're going to stream hope you don't live in most places that still have data caps.

Where in the fuck are there still large groups of people with CRTs in the US? Do you live in the most meth infested part of Montana? What bearing do old meth rats have on common patterns in technology and retail?

EDIT: What's more likely to happen, advancements in technology that are negligible or not necessarily important to keep manufacturing and and selling consumer electronics, or that we have reached the absolute peak and that TVs are going to display the same resolution for the rest of your life?

I think Samsung and LG are gonna make higher resolution TVs than 4k brehs.

Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 15, 2019, 08:14:22 PM
1440p is the thinking man's choice for modern PC game resolution. It upscales very well to a 4k display, you don't have to turn off all the eye candy, and you still get good framerates.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 15, 2019, 08:26:01 PM
It took almost 20 years for 1080p to get into 75% of house holds, expecting people to do 4K and then 8K when there is still a significant chunk of the US using CRTs still is absurd. DVDs still outsell bluray and people jumped more from DVD to streaming than bluray. For 8K you're going to need a new absurdly expensive TV, a new disc player, start your collection all over AGAIN, and if you're going to stream hope you don't live in most places that still have data caps.

Where in the fuck are there still large groups of people with CRTs in the US? Do you live in the most meth infested part of Montana? What bearing do old meth rats have on common patterns in technology and retail?


I mean I live in the Chicago metropolitan area and have done years of plumbing and now medical home set-ups. So I've been in plenty of homes and yeah CRTs are still widely used. Mostly old people, so they are out of the target demo here. But also I've seen plenty of average people have thier shitty cheap LCDs playing regular SD NBC or FOX or whatever. Or streaming Friends or the office and not giving a shit what resolution its in. You have Americans going crazy on Black Friday for the Hitatachi whatever shit tv that may be in 4k, but will probably have a old Roku device plugged into that that negates whatever 4k the tv has. lets not even get started on HDR. Dolby Vision what? HDR10 who cares?

My "girlfriend" thinks the regular xbox one is perfectly fine. I visited Target to talk to my old boss and he sold a Digital Only Xbox to a lady for Xmas because her son only cared about Fortnite. My sister and her family were wowed by thier 70inch Philips tv and the soundbar is cool enough for thier home theater.

I just feel as enthusiasts, like we do need perspective here.

I asked my friend if he wanted to go see Gemni man because the AMC here at least had the 60 FPS 1080p version. He said he already watched a rip off of Codi. The thing people kept buying up Target's supply of Fire Sticks last year for.

I don't think these are concerns or interests most people have.

And while I don't think these things won't eventually happen. I just don't think it's going to be anytime son. And when it does who even know what media consumption will be.

But as I said before. I don't even expect 4k to be the standard for next gen consoles. I'm sure where going to see plenty if not most games hit under that resolution. Under 1080p is still very common now on the base systems.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: bork on December 15, 2019, 08:31:52 PM
:goldberg
It took almost 20 years for 1080p to get into 75% of house holds, expecting people to do 4K and then 8K when there is still a significant chunk of the US using CRTs still is absurd. DVDs still outsell bluray and people jumped more from DVD to streaming than bluray. For 8K you're going to need a new absurdly expensive TV, a new disc player, start your collection all over AGAIN, and if you're going to stream hope you don't live in most places that still have data caps.
I'd bet heavily on 8k being an eventual flop. it is completely pointless from a scientific standpoint, increases costs of film and game dev significantly and is a terrible decision for consumers.

I get what you guys are saying, but it's going to happen at some point.  Sure, it's gonna be a while I'm sure, but it's not going to be a "flop" and eventually will replace 4K and the like. 
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 15, 2019, 08:41:01 PM
Dolby Vision is great, I wish more movies would use it. Colors really pop.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: mormapope on December 15, 2019, 08:51:55 PM
:goldberg
It took almost 20 years for 1080p to get into 75% of house holds, expecting people to do 4K and then 8K when there is still a significant chunk of the US using CRTs still is absurd. DVDs still outsell bluray and people jumped more from DVD to streaming than bluray. For 8K you're going to need a new absurdly expensive TV, a new disc player, start your collection all over AGAIN, and if you're going to stream hope you don't live in most places that still have data caps.
I'd bet heavily on 8k being an eventual flop. it is completely pointless from a scientific standpoint, increases costs of film and game dev significantly and is a terrible decision for consumers.

I get what you guys are saying, but it's going to happen at some point.  Sure, it's gonna be a while I'm sure, but it's not going to be a "flop" and eventually will replace 4K and the like.

Case in point

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-55-class-led-q900-series-4320p-smart-8k-uhd-tv-with-hdr/6355633.p?skuId=6355633&ref=212&loc=1&ref=212&loc=1&gclsrc=aw.ds&ds_rl=1260573&ds_rl=1266837&ds_rl=1268709&gclid=Cj0KCQiA0NfvBRCVARIsAO4930mfhZDzNWpMVeZpkryoietjGW3apI3_z63vRFHJ8o4HfqQUwMttcQwaAqMAEALw_wcB

8k tv for $2500. This has been a trend for at least 40 years at this point, super high end stuff that at one point costs a lot to manufacture, and then when technology costs lower, high end replaces the standard.

This $2500 TV is going to be $400-$600 in four to five years. By that time, there'll be a successor to HDR probably too.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Chooky on December 15, 2019, 09:29:49 PM
4k is still for freak nerds only; don't delude yourselves
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: EightBitNate on December 15, 2019, 09:34:16 PM
I think we’ve made enough strides in resolution for now. I’d like to see other aspects of graphical fidelity go up before we move on from 4K.

8K for movies could be worth it though.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: bork on December 15, 2019, 09:58:49 PM
4k is still for freak nerds only; don't delude yourselves

Who gives a shit about content?  4K TVs are already cheap as hell.  A lot of video out there still isn't even 1080P yet, but it doesn't matter.  The tech is being developed and costs keep going down.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Chooky on December 15, 2019, 10:06:01 PM
I think we’ve made enough strides in resolution for now. I’d like to see other aspects of graphical fidelity go up before we move on from 4K.


hell yeah super excited to see the advances in physics for next gen. botw was like a nice teaser of how nice a game can look with the wind blowing through the grass and whipping the rain around.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Tasty on December 15, 2019, 10:12:16 PM
I think we’ve made enough strides in resolution for now. I’d like to see other aspects of graphical fidelity go up before we move on from 4K.

8K for movies could be worth it though.

Movies are recorded in 8K generally these days, that's literally where resolution is going to bottom out. The return on investment beyond that is so small. Progress will be made but I could see 8K lasting 30 years...
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: naff on December 16, 2019, 03:30:50 AM
obvs the sets and sources capable (eg this Series X) of pushing 8k will be readily available. i meant content will be a flop, and can't see it taking off outside of the odd nature doco, big budget movies, and some aaa games with bad framerates and hampered effects. at least for the foreseeable future the benefits with the vast majority of media will come from upscaling which, eh, ymmv.

Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Brehvolution on December 16, 2019, 10:57:33 AM
It is pretty weird how 4k hardware has far outpaced 4k content. Other than video games, cable/satellite TV  providers have very meager 4k content if at all.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: kingv on December 16, 2019, 11:03:36 AM
I think most people are dumb and just think their 4K sets are showing 4K whatever just because the TV is 4K. even though they are just getting SD.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 16, 2019, 12:26:04 PM
Well I didn’t say digital wasn’t overtaking or anything. My point was that physical hasn’t actually gone anywhere. If anything it seems more games have gotten a physical release then they would have last gen. I don’t buy digital and haven’t missed out on anything.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: mormapope on December 16, 2019, 01:34:03 PM
Well I didn’t say digital wasn’t overtaking or anything. My point was that physical hasn’t actually gone anywhere. If anything it seems more games have gotten a physical release then they would have last gen. I don’t buy digital and haven’t missed out on anything.

A lot of those smaller or indie/niche games wouldn't have been released at all on consoles if releasing digitally wasn't an option. Last gen, digital just started to take off for consoles around the tail end of the generation.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Tasty on December 16, 2019, 01:52:19 PM
The danger is that physical game sales become <30% of the market and it enters a "death spiral" of dwindling support.

Physical games will only exist as long as the consoles themselves support them, and both MS and Sony have experimented with digital-only systems in the past.

This is different from other mediums; you can buy a CD player from anyone and it'll play all* CDs, so there's incentives to continue producing CDs (even if they make less money.) People are still publishing on vinyl! With an Xbox One game, that isn't possible.**

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** But I suppose it is possible for older systems; China is pumping out so many fake Pokemon Blue cartridges these days it could make your head spin.

So once again the only problem at the end of the day is DRM.
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Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: EightBitNate on December 16, 2019, 02:57:06 PM
It is pretty weird how 4k hardware has far outpaced 4k content. Other than video games, cable/satellite TV  providers have very meager 4k content if at all.

Even most “HD” cable offerings are still just 720p/1080i so it’s really no wonder.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Brehvolution on December 16, 2019, 04:00:29 PM
It is pretty weird how 4k hardware has far outpaced 4k content. Other than video games, cable/satellite TV  providers have very meager 4k content if at all.

Even most “HD” cable offerings are still just 720p/1080i so it’s really no wonder.

To get Directv 4k service, a tech has to come to the house and put a new nose on the sat. dish and you need a special box on the 4k TV. Then they tell you that you need a reliable 22MB/sec internet bandwidth. That makes you wonder if the channel is even over the air. You get 1 full time channel for content and 2 for special events and it can be weeks in between events. At least it's free because it isn't worth paying any extra for.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Nintex on December 16, 2019, 05:20:30 PM
From business insider
Quote
"The name we're carrying forward to the next generation is simply Xbox," a Microsoft representative told Business Insider, "And at The Game Awards you saw that name come to life through the Xbox Series X."

Like the first Xbox generation, the next one is simply named "Xbox."

It's a basic rebranding, but a meaningful one that could help to simplify the Xbox line for interested consumers. It also clarifies Microsoft's intention with its console line.

"Similar to what fans have seen with previous generations, the name 'Xbox Series X' allows room for additional consoles in the future," the Microsoft rep told us.
:dizzy
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Svejk on December 16, 2019, 05:24:06 PM
From business insider
Quote
"The name we're carrying forward to the next generation is simply Xbox," a Microsoft representative told Business Insider, "And at The Game Awards you saw that name come to life through the Xbox Series X."

Like the first Xbox generation, the next one is simply named "Xbox."

It's a basic rebranding, but a meaningful one that could help to simplify the Xbox line for interested consumers. It also clarifies Microsoft's intention with its console line.

"Similar to what fans have seen with previous generations, the name 'Xbox Series X' allows room for additional consoles in the future," the Microsoft rep told us.
:dizzy
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Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Nintex on December 16, 2019, 05:43:31 PM
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Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 16, 2019, 07:00:39 PM
Why would anyone think this multiple models and name idea is good. It has never worked.

Sony really lucked out with the simple number naming scheme.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Trent Dole on December 16, 2019, 07:26:35 PM
Naw man it worked great for the Wii U!
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: nachobro on December 16, 2019, 07:43:40 PM
:hmm
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: remy on December 16, 2019, 09:30:05 PM
Why would anyone think this multiple models and name idea is good. It has never worked.

Sony really lucked out with the simple number naming scheme.
They're looking at the iPad

They should've called it xbox 6  :doge
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Svejk on December 16, 2019, 09:54:51 PM
Didn't they name the OG one because it made by people from Generation X?  They should call the next one BoomBox, lolamiright?
spoiler (click to show/hide)
I don't keep up with generation names so I dunno.  :doge making shit up here.
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Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Trent Dole on December 16, 2019, 10:09:28 PM
I think it was mainly called the Xbox cause it utilized DirectX.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: naff on December 16, 2019, 10:11:16 PM
what i really want to know is, will the X rotate like the PS2 logo?
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: benjipwns on December 16, 2019, 11:40:24 PM
It is pretty weird how 4k hardware has far outpaced 4k content. Other than video games, cable/satellite TV  providers have very meager 4k content if at all.
Movies are recorded in 8K generally these days, that's literally where resolution is going to bottom out. The return on investment beyond that is so small. Progress will be made but I could see 8K lasting 30 years...
Storage plus speeds.

DVD was a pretty good perfect storm of things coming together that gave it and its associated technologies such a long run. Everything since then has hit and been surpassed or the market has changed right as when it should have hit that point to take off. Streaming becoming mainstream really did a number on this I think even if probably long term is helping to slowly bump up the resolutions. I think Tasty's right in that one of these is going to stick around for costs reasons and it'll just default into being a standard.

Even most “HD” cable offerings are still just 720p/1080i so it’s really no wonder.

To get Directv 4k service, a tech has to come to the house and put a new nose on the sat. dish and you need a special box on the 4k TV. Then they tell you that you need a reliable 22MB/sec internet bandwidth. That makes you wonder if the channel is even over the air. You get 1 full time channel for content and 2 for special events and it can be weeks in between events. At least it's free because it isn't worth paying any extra for.
The HDTV standard that was accepted in the U.S. (and followed by many other countries) doesn't support 1080p. Only 720p and 1080i, as a result the broadcasters don't broadcast over that. The cable networks unless otherwise specified run off the same base hardware because they know the TVs can at least receive that.

There is a higher level standard that changes codecs but it's not required, something like five stations in the U.S. use it and on an alternate feed of their main channel. A bunch of German stations switched to it but I believe that was the only country that did. It also only allows for certain frame rates.

There is at this point a bandwidth limitation on the signal. The codecs used simply cannot handle it on both ends. That's why all the 4K stuff uses satellites and special decoding hardware. IIRC, for over the air TV you can't even switch to a codec like HEVC because all the digital stuff people bought only does MPEG, a lot of them are still MPEG2 even. (IIRC that "updated codec standard" calls for MPEG4, which lots of TVs now support natively due to streaming, downloaded videos, etc.) HEVC, for example, could solve the bandwidth problem but then you need to decode it in your TV fast. And when nobody is broadcasting in it anyway...

I think internet bandwidth's continuing jumps (even if not as we all wish) will simply just phase it out, and since they're all the same companies anyway they'll give you "free local TV" with internet and the FCC will be fine with that. They'll just let the over-the-air standard stay where it is and the networks will just run 720p downcodes.

I don't know if anybody here fucks with OTA digital TV but I've never seen it not be shit quality that drops out constantly unless you have a big ol antenna on the house. It's sometimes worth it though to see a 720p Always Sunny episode letterboxed improperly inside a 480p frame as the video pauses and cuts out every two minutes.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: kingv on December 17, 2019, 07:52:58 AM
My experience with OTA Digital TV is that it typically looks better than what comes out of the cable box.

Way less compression. But it really depends how close to towers you live.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Brehvolution on December 17, 2019, 09:58:27 AM
Xbx
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: kingv on December 17, 2019, 11:31:49 AM
Agreed, also, the reason Wii U is confusing is partly because Nintendo’s commercials are/were shitty and weird.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: BisMarckie on December 17, 2019, 11:34:19 AM
You know what was also shitty and weird?
The Wii U :rodney
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: BisMarckie on December 17, 2019, 11:35:30 AM
Some people are acting like the Wii U would have sold like hotcakes if it had a different name and completely forget that it was a shitty device nobody wanted.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: mormapope on December 17, 2019, 11:41:54 AM
Most criticism of how confusing the name is, is fanboy concern trolling/hysteria. As if children asking for Christmas presents are the main demographic for the most expensive console in stores.

The first game revealed for Sexbox is a sequel to a game about crippling mental and psychological illness. It wasn't Fortnite.  :lol

 Most gamers continue to prove how fucking stupid they are.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: bork on December 17, 2019, 11:46:04 AM
Some people are acting like the Wii U would have sold like hotcakes if it had a different name and completely forget that it was a shitty device nobody wanted.

It would have sold like crazy if they just marketed it right:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFu7nKRwQMc

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:wiiu :wiiu :wiiu
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Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: mormapope on December 17, 2019, 11:59:04 AM
The Wii-U was pretty close to the Switch in design and execution. Nintendo at that time though still had the 3DS for a dedicated handheld and was fairly new. Along with Nintendo chasing after tablet popularity as tablets were still pretty new and fresh at the time.

Replace the Wii console with a dock, and beef up the Wii-U tablet a bit so you could just use the tablet, it would be very similar to the Switch.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Tasty on December 17, 2019, 12:07:56 PM
Wii U was a Switch beta.

But hardware beta tests are more painful/costly than software ones. :lol
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Tasty on December 17, 2019, 12:11:13 PM
From business insider
Quote
"The name we're carrying forward to the next generation is simply Xbox," a Microsoft representative told Business Insider, "And at The Game Awards you saw that name come to life through the Xbox Series X."

Like the first Xbox generation, the next one is simply named "Xbox."

It's a basic rebranding, but a meaningful one that could help to simplify the Xbox line for interested consumers. It also clarifies Microsoft's intention with its console line.

"Similar to what fans have seen with previous generations, the name 'Xbox Series X' allows room for additional consoles in the future," the Microsoft rep told us.
:dizzy

Xbox (2001)
Xbox 360
Xbox One
Xbox (2020)

MS was always big on the Hollywoodification of gaming, so not much surprise they're adopting the same shitty naming scheme as a film franchise that's had one too many reboots.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: mormapope on December 17, 2019, 12:47:22 PM
From business insider
Quote
"The name we're carrying forward to the next generation is simply Xbox," a Microsoft representative told Business Insider, "And at The Game Awards you saw that name come to life through the Xbox Series X."

Like the first Xbox generation, the next one is simply named "Xbox."

It's a basic rebranding, but a meaningful one that could help to simplify the Xbox line for interested consumers. It also clarifies Microsoft's intention with its console line.

"Similar to what fans have seen with previous generations, the name 'Xbox Series X' allows room for additional consoles in the future," the Microsoft rep told us.
:dizzy

Xbox (2001)
Xbox 360
Xbox One
Xbox (2020)

MS was always big on the Hollywoodification of gaming, so not much surprise they're adopting the same shitty naming scheme as a film franchise that's had one too many reboots.

Eh, that's Sony you're talking about. The Last of Us, Uncharted, and God of War, all incredibly cinematic games. ResetEra boys pride themselves on being fans of cinematic single player games, that's Sony's schtick.

Sony has also produced some of the worst movies in the past decade,so there's that too
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Nintex on December 17, 2019, 01:22:59 PM
I read that the latest Surface is called the Surface Pro X. They just like the X.

Nintendo was always focused on kids and family friendly entertainment, SEGA targeted sexually confused teenagers and Playstation 'grown ups'...

Microsoft were just edgy bois, which is why their recent 'diversity/inclusiveness' push is fucking hilarious if you remember them promoting imaginary velocity girls with Perfect Dark Zero music videos.
The sweaty edgelord fat nerd identity is ingrained so deep into the DNA of Microsoft that no matter how many blue haired fluid gender project managers they roll out or how many times they rebrand Microsoft Xbox Game Studios,
it'll never not be fake if they name all their products after a graphics API or Sonic XTreme
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Tasty on December 17, 2019, 01:44:02 PM
Yeah and Windows 10X is the name of the dual-screen version of the OS.

Whoever's in charge of naming things at MS should be fired.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Nintex on December 17, 2019, 01:50:44 PM
DirectX-Box Series X
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: nachobro on December 17, 2019, 02:07:47 PM
Wii U was a shit name and goofy console but it gave us Mario Maker 1 and BOTW, the two best Nintendy games of the 2010s. So Xbox Series X only has to give us two games as good as that to make up for the name.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Svejk on December 17, 2019, 02:27:00 PM
Now if they starting going OG xbox and doing follow ups for Otogi, JSRF and GunValkyrie?  Shooooooo
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Raist on December 17, 2019, 02:32:17 PM
From business insider
Quote
"The name we're carrying forward to the next generation is simply Xbox," a Microsoft representative told Business Insider, "And at The Game Awards you saw that name come to life through the Xbox Series X."

Like the first Xbox generation, the next one is simply named "Xbox."

It's a basic rebranding, but a meaningful one that could help to simplify the Xbox line for interested consumers. It also clarifies Microsoft's intention with its console line.

"Similar to what fans have seen with previous generations, the name 'Xbox Series X' allows room for additional consoles in the future," the Microsoft rep told us.
:dizzy

Xbox (2001)
Xbox 360
Xbox One
Xbox (2020)

MS was always big on the Hollywoodification of gaming, so not much surprise they're adopting the same shitty naming scheme as a film franchise that's had one too many reboots.

Eh, that's Sony you're talking about. The Last of Us, Uncharted, and God of War, all incredibly cinematic games. ResetEra boys pride themselves on being fans of cinematic single player games, that's Sony's schtick.

Sony has also produced some of the worst movies in the past decade,so there's that too

I think you completely missed the point.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: mormapope on December 17, 2019, 03:54:53 PM
From business insider
Quote
"The name we're carrying forward to the next generation is simply Xbox," a Microsoft representative told Business Insider, "And at The Game Awards you saw that name come to life through the Xbox Series X."

Like the first Xbox generation, the next one is simply named "Xbox."

It's a basic rebranding, but a meaningful one that could help to simplify the Xbox line for interested consumers. It also clarifies Microsoft's intention with its console line.

"Similar to what fans have seen with previous generations, the name 'Xbox Series X' allows room for additional consoles in the future," the Microsoft rep told us.
:dizzy

Xbox (2001)
Xbox 360
Xbox One
Xbox (2020)

MS was always big on the Hollywoodification of gaming, so not much surprise they're adopting the same shitty naming scheme as a film franchise that's had one too many reboots.

Eh, that's Sony you're talking about. The Last of Us, Uncharted, and God of War, all incredibly cinematic games. ResetEra boys pride themselves on being fans of cinematic single player games, that's Sony's schtick.

Sony has also produced some of the worst movies in the past decade,so there's that too

I think you completely missed the point.

Thanks for clearing it up for me.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: nachobro on December 17, 2019, 06:52:52 PM
it seems more like they are using the ipad name model. or cars is another one, there's like 5 different trim levels on many car models now and there will be probably 3-5 different xboxes over this next gen.

hell just for my jetta there's 4 different trims: S, SE, SEL and GLI and those mean just as little as a name as an Xbox S or X or E :lol
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Tasty on December 17, 2019, 07:08:33 PM
Tasty was comparing the naming convention to modern movie sequels where they eventually re-release a movie named the same as the original.

Rambo, Halloween, Final Destination, etc.

But I'm confused what else they've done to "Hollywoodify" gaming. 


Ehhh that was just my impression of MS in the Xbox-Xbox 360 era, especially centered at the 360's launch. Sony at that point wasn't really on the Hollywoodification trend and wouldn't be (I don't think) until Uncharted 1/2.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Nintex on December 17, 2019, 07:21:33 PM
Microsoft wasn't centered on anything.
The Xbox never got beyond: "HALO is cool no?"

Then they went ahead and decided that apart from a Quake/Half Life 'killer' they needed to take on Gran Turismo(Forza), Need for Speed(PGR) and a bunch of other games.
The only reason Lost Odyssey existed was because they didn't have Final Fantasy. And Blue Dragon was simply an answer to Dragon Quest as Fable was to Zelda.

Once the Wii took off they abandoned all that and told Rare to clone it, failing horribly in the process.
I'm pretty excited to see what Spencer will do with all those studios and if they finally have a software strategy.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: mormapope on December 17, 2019, 07:46:30 PM
Xbox was a hardcore tryhard gaming enthusiast brand, and like Wrath said, Xbox was originally bringing PC gaming to the console space. The first half of the 360's life was like this too. Elder Scrolls Oblivion, Call of Duty 2, Rainbow Six Vegas, Gears of War, all very Western as fuck PC styled games that came out in 2006 (Gears of War is basically dudebro RE4 with great multiplayer).

Then the Kinect era happened. And then the Xbox One reveal and vision happened. Kinect was about chasing Wii money. Xbox One was originally about being a....TV cable box? Quite possibly the worst vision possible. I'd argue the original Xbox One reveal and vision was worse than Wii-U.

Sony has been propping up cinematic game stuff for a long time now. MGS4 after all was considered the killer app by critics at the time, the reason you should get a PS3. A game with hour long cutscenes. Incessantly.

The PS3 in general was pitched as a multimedia switchblade master box. A complete and utter fucking mess of a console initially.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 17, 2019, 08:57:27 PM
I mean I guess you can criticize "cinematic single player games" as Sony's one trick pony move, but like what has MS had to offer this gen on the exclusive front?

Lackluster Halo and Gear's games from assembly line studios that don't know how to capture what people liked about the original games. So they just make tired sequels that struggle for relevancy?

False starts of franchises that never happen in Quantum Break and Sunset Overdrive?

A Forza machine?

Mediocre games like State of Decay and whatever.

Xbox as a gaming system really lacks an identity and something exciting. Sure you can not care about God of War and Uncharted, but those are really top of the line experiences in thier space. I really doubt Hellblade 2 from a studio that has struggled to do anything is going to match what Sony and it's studios have been years mastering.

And in the end that's really my problem with the platform. Yeah I know they bought all those studios(though plenty of them don't inspire confidence), but even with the One X MS really did not prove themselves on this front. Power, services, sure I guess. But power and games weren't excactly lacking on the Playstation either.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: nachobro on December 17, 2019, 09:23:55 PM
xbox is basically just the services box. pay them monthly and you can just get games delivered to you. or just pay for the console and games monthly now. plus it does all the video streaming and you can control it with your voice with kinect (or alexa or google home).

x1 didn't work as well as a standalone box but game pass made it more appealing. having all the stuff in game pass carry forward day one will start the next one off on a bit of a better foot imo. even if ms ends up putting xgs games on other platforms next gen (which i expect) they will be "free" on game pass so that's a bit of an incentive to get their box.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: benjipwns on December 18, 2019, 12:11:53 AM
I remember the Wii U confusion all being at the start, and again limited to the online gaming sphere, as they were trying to put together facts and rumors. People really wanted it to be a Switch for the original Wii too. Then everybody saw the new box and Nintendo confirmed it was definitely a new console.

Wii sales had already dropped off for some time, except in software, so the Wii U not igniting shouldn't have been surprising. I'm sure there were people who thought it was totally an add-on like Wii Fit and so on but I doubt it was very many people to where it did anything. Every single console has to deal with uninformed consumers who barely know anything about it. The only real times it impacts are like with the original 360 launch because developers couldn't know if there was a HD included or not.

Microsoft has tried every single time to rebrand Xbox as the BRAND and gloss over the actual machine that's out. Microsoft regularly has all kinds of crazy overthought naming conventions for their big projects when they have years to work on them, remember Vista? XP? ME? ZUNE? They also desperately want to avoid being one number lower than PlayStation even though just sticking a number on the end has shown to have its own problems. But they should totally just be like fuck it, we're counting the S and X, this is the XBOX SIX.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
And then call the Lockhart model the Xbox 5. :teehee
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Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: tiesto on December 18, 2019, 05:22:25 PM
I liked the early era before the Kinect-ization of the 360, when the PS3 had a failure to launch and when MS was throwing money at Japanese devs for timed exclusives... we got some good games out of it (Lost Odyssey, the first Dead Rising, Vesperia, Virtua Fighter 5, and a heap of amazing shmups), even though in the long run it probably set back the devs who took MS money a few years. Doubt that'll ever happen again (if anything Japanese PS4/Switch/PC multiplats won't skip Xbox this time around), but I'd still kill for a new Lost Odyssey.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: mormapope on December 18, 2019, 05:51:43 PM
MS brought hard drives and coherent online systems to consoles, and basically helped popularize the console FPS (obviously GoldenEye gets tons of credit, but the space was rather stagnant after that and attempts to bring PC FPS to consoles all sucked).    I think their presence in general is responsible for a lot of advancements in the space that might not have happened.

They just really fucked up focusing on Kinect, barely focusing on building game studios and being rather tone def about the DRM stuff.

However that DRM stuff sounded awesome to me;  I hate how physical purchases give you basically half the software license a digital purchase does for instance.  Being able to buy disks and still do stuff like family sharing and the "primary console" trick to do 2 players at once would have been great.

I don't really give a shit about whether they were "dude bro" or "try hard" or whatever weird insults people throw at the brand;  the tech and games were great for a long time and I couldn't care less about the marketing.  People thinking Sony gave a shit about them because of their marketing around the PS4 was fucking hilarious though.  Sony the king of all DRM across all digital products lol

Even though I used those words, I'm probably one of five members on The Bire that views Xbox as a whole quite favorably and has been my main console of choice since 2004.  :doge

(https://card.exophase.com/2/0/39747.png?1576709134)

Almost 148,000 gamerscore over the course of 13 years, and 10,000 hours on Xbone alone, not counting 360 playtime.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Akala on December 18, 2019, 06:08:53 PM
I think most of us view XB good as a whole, but there was a really bad stretch there.

Overall XB has been pretty good, I was a late adopter as didn't see anything that justified the first console until the Sega announcements (I picked one up for JSRF launch). Once they moved on from the duke it was best platform by far for multiplats and it had some good exclusives. From 360 launch until the kinect lean they honestly dominated, but completely lost the plot around kinect. There was jack shit for exclusives, and the X1 launch was a dumpster fire. I grabbed one for the Horizons, but it was inferior to PS4 IMO. From the X on they've been great.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: EightBitNate on December 19, 2019, 11:41:35 AM
If Microsoft can get back to their early 360 glory in terms of exclusives then they’ll give Sony a run for their money imo. The hardware and services are already there.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Nintex on December 19, 2019, 02:26:59 PM
Microsoft needs some fire up their ass with the software game.
Hellblade is a step in the right direction I guess.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Svejk on December 19, 2019, 04:10:40 PM
The rumors brewing on  :reeeee is that MS was supposedly shopping for studios in Poland.  If they managed to snag CDPR, ... That'd be playing with my emotions, smokey.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Tasty on December 19, 2019, 04:45:27 PM
The rumors brewing on  :reeeee is that MS was supposedly shopping for studios in Poland.  If they managed to snag CDPR, ... That'd be playing with my emotions, smokey.

Lulz RE would go fully Sony at that point.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Nintex on December 19, 2019, 04:55:21 PM
The rumors brewing on  :reeeee is that MS was supposedly shopping for studios in Poland.  If they managed to snag CDPR, ... That'd be playing with my emotions, smokey.
Who do you think paid Grimes to emerge out of a BOX at the VGA's?
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 19, 2019, 05:30:26 PM
The rumors brewing on  :reeeee is that MS was supposedly shopping for studios in Poland.  If they managed to snag CDPR, ... That'd be playing with my emotions, smokey.
Who do you think paid Grimes to emerge out of a BOX at the VGA's?

I just figured dating Elon Musk would make anyone turn to box
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 19, 2019, 08:57:25 PM
If Microsoft can get back to their early 360 glory in terms of exclusives then they’ll give Sony a run for their money imo. The hardware and services are already there.

Microsoft hasn't had a Goty first party game since Gears of War and that was in 2006 so I wouldn't hold my breath.

Ill prob end up buying this anyway but not for MS' lineup.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: EightBitNate on December 20, 2019, 12:36:11 AM
I’m pretty involved with the Xbox community on RE, and the amount of straight up unapologetic Xbox corporate shills is insane. There’s quite a few tweets I’d post here but it’d be awkward in the Discord groups I’m in.

They do shit like create fake marketing materials and pull predictions out of their ass, all on their own time. PlayStation side is the exact same way. I thought that level of extreme fanboyism died off in the early 10s, but nope.  Grown ass men who have nothing better to do but go to bat for these mega corporations.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Akala on December 20, 2019, 01:00:37 AM
I’m pretty involved with the Xbox community on RE

(http://i.imgur.com/ltNJ4Zu.jpg)
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: EightBitNate on December 20, 2019, 01:16:50 AM
I’m pretty involved with the Xbox community on RE

(http://i.imgur.com/ltNJ4Zu.jpg)

Gears mostly, plus it’s funny to talk shit about the Sony shilling.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: kingv on December 20, 2019, 09:31:59 AM
Imagine leaving those discord’s instead of screenshotting the fuckery and posting it here.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 20, 2019, 01:02:22 PM
Mobile game shills

Oscar rip
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: paprikastaude on December 20, 2019, 06:27:22 PM
Take away speaking rights of every vigorous single platform owner above the age of 17 and this hobby will improve by several hundred percent.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - the next generation of terrible names
Post by: ZombieSupaStar on December 20, 2019, 08:25:03 PM
Man i dont know what to do, I wanted to build a new pc next fall because my 2500k and 970 are getting beyond potato, plus I want to try VR. But it sounds like even a top of the line rig built now may not be equal to the XSX? Like how badly inflated is pc hardware if it can all be put in a 500 dollar(?) box.

Next year I wanted a Ryzen 4000 series cpu, 32 gigs of ram and whatever 700 would buy me in a 3d card.  :( I mean im guessing that pc will be more powerful than an XSX but man I was spoilt by the weak hardware of consoles this gen, this is like back to when the 360 launched and it was pretty  :hyper for 6 months or so.
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Post by: Nintex on December 20, 2019, 09:38:01 PM
Man i dont know what to do, I wanted to build a new pc next fall because my 2500k and 970 are getting beyond potato, plus I want to try VR. But it sounds like even a top of the line rig built now may not be equal to the XSX? Like how badly inflated is pc hardware if it can all be put in a 500 dollar(?) box.

Next year I wanted a Ryzen 4000 series cpu, 32 gigs of ram and whatever 700 would buy me in a 3d card.  :( I mean im guessing that pc will be more powerful than an XSX but man I was spoilt by the weak hardware of consoles this gen, this is like back to when the 360 launched and it was pretty  :hyper for 6 months or so.
Either there's some caveat with this machine or it launches at 599 or even 699.
There's no way to do a 399 or 499 box with those specs if they pan out as expected.

There's probably a cheaper 4TF model for 299/399 and this 12TF model for a premium of 699.
Playstation 5 will probably drop right in the middle at 499 or something. Maybe a cheaper configuration for 399.

Microsoft got extremely lucky that for the first time in a long while AMD didn't shit the bet with their new CPU's. Ryzen is going to be the real game changer.
The Xbox One Series X will basically be a Ryzen 3600 with a GPU comparable to the 5700 and hardware Ray Tracing added plus a fast SSD.

If you snag a 3700X and a 2070 Super instead your PC should already outperform the Xbox Series X.
As it is a year from release by the time it comes out there's probably a more advanced PC GPU out there that completely smokes it.
Still, it's a much better spec than the Xbox One was at the time of launch and that means way better use of comparable PC hardware too.
I hope we're finally seeing some improvements in AI and the likes now that we're not longer strapped to the shittiest line of notebook CPU's since the Intel Celeron.
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Post by: kingv on December 20, 2019, 10:11:48 PM
I think the reality with consoles is they just have a lot less overhead than PCs.

An X1X seems to me that it punches way above its weight class for its GPU and CPU.
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Post by: nachobro on January 06, 2020, 05:54:20 PM
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1214310146345562112

still has two hdmi ports for tv stuff but no kinect or normal usb port on the back. i guess that means kinect is dead unless they allow it with a usb-c converter
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Post by: Human Snorenado on January 06, 2020, 06:41:23 PM
:piss kinect :piss2
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Post by: nachobro on January 06, 2020, 06:52:40 PM
i like kinect cause i can say "xbox on" and it turns on the console, tv, and soundbar. :'( also dance games
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Post by: nachobro on January 06, 2020, 08:01:52 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENo4ZvZW4AEGY_d?format=png&name=medium)

amd just took some random render off the internet and slapped it into their ces conference

:birb
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Post by: Trent Dole on January 06, 2020, 08:05:26 PM
Hah, I've seen a bunch of tweets discussing the ports on the back of the thing too.
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Post by: nachobro on January 07, 2020, 02:09:06 PM
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(https://i.imgur.com/Jd86pyY.png?1)

As it stands right now, the series X features, on the back of the hardware, two USB-A ports (of the SuperSpeed variety), ethernet, a single HDMI port, optical audio, and a power connection. There is also another port on the back that may be used for debugging but there wasn’t an agreement on the nature of its functionality. The image at the top of this post shows a basic outline of how those ports appear on the actual hardware.

Also, on the back of the device are openings for air intake as well; all of the ports are located on the lower half of the hardware. Keep in mind, there is also a USB-A port on the front of the console but for now, it looks like Microsoft is sticking with the older USB style port.
https://www.thurrott.com/games/xbox/227520/xbox-series-x-ports-revealed

kinect back on the menu boiz
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Post by: mormapope on January 07, 2020, 02:18:31 PM
Doing some reading, Kinects for this gen stopped being manufactured in October of 2018. I don't know if they'd start manufacturing new Kinects if legacy hardware works.

This is also insider information still, nothing official. Insider info for internal stuff is pretty reliable. Anything feature based or even ports on the console won't be forreal until manufacturing starts happening.
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Post by: nachobro on January 07, 2020, 02:22:06 PM
yeah i just mean old ones still working. i don't expect anything new on that front
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Post by: HardcoreRetro on January 07, 2020, 02:29:47 PM
I guess Jet Set Radio Future was second party?
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Post by: HardcoreRetro on January 07, 2020, 03:07:20 PM
I guess Jet Set Radio Future was second party?

That game was for weebs. Keep that shit on Nintendo and Sony. I want to feeling of being a man only games made in the USA can deliver.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOL8fDISewA

I DON'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK THOUGH!
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Post by: Raist on January 08, 2020, 01:21:09 PM
i like kinect cause i can say "xbox on" and it turns on the console, tv, and soundbar. :'( also dance games

You don't need anything beyond a cheap headset to do voice commands :lol
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Post by: nachobro on January 08, 2020, 01:21:48 PM
Why would I have a cheap headset on when walking into the den? Not sure how that lets my wife play dance games either. :idont

spoiler (click to show/hide)
yes i know, but a cheap headset isn't really solving any of the reasons i want kinect to stick around
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Post by: nachobro on January 08, 2020, 01:31:33 PM
i wonder if the 3rd party remote control i got for the x1 will work with the new xbox? it just seems to be an IR remote so maybe
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Post by: Raist on January 08, 2020, 01:31:54 PM
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What kind of nerd

Yeah as opposed to folks cheering for a completely useless piece of hardware which massively increased the price at launch. Because using voice commands as you walk into the room is so kewl :rofl
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Post by: nachobro on January 08, 2020, 01:33:26 PM
or just a nice convenience that would be a bummer to lose :yeshrug plus having it sign in myself or my wife using the camera is also a nice convenience. it's kinda neat to be able to boot up the entire entertainment system, log in, launch an app, and start a movie/video without ever needing to turn on a controller

and again, like em or not there are X1 games that use kinect so if they want to do full BC it would be nice to have that hardware supported since i already own it and the usb converter
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Post by: EightBitNate on January 11, 2020, 06:47:30 PM
How do you guys feel about no true next gen exclusives? Matt Booty says all MS games will release on XO for the next 2 years.
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Post by: Nintex on January 11, 2020, 07:09:54 PM
How do you guys feel about no true next gen exclusives? Matt Booty says all MS games will release on XO for the next 2 years.
I hardly can believe Microsoft is going to tie another console generation to CPU's that were already shit 10 years ago.
The Xbox One could hardly keep up with the big releases of 2019, like the new Star Wars game and Control. It'll only get worse.

Hopefully Sony isn't doing the same and third parties will do some proper next gen exclusives.
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Post by: Trent Dole on January 11, 2020, 07:53:55 PM
Stuff will maybe run okish on the 1x I guess? Their plan is to already have you invested in their new machines ecosystem since if you've bought one version of the game the other version will automatically be yours/in your account as well. So it's kind of smart for people that aren't adapting right away but also basically tells everyone not to since you can just play everything they release already on your current machine. Weird gamble.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 11, 2020, 08:04:04 PM
I understand that they want Xbox to be a platform not tied to a singular console.

But I think one of the problems will honestly be confusion of what the Series X is and I feel that it's up to them to really push that this is the next big bad Xbox. Having no exclusives dosen't help. Especially when your competition has such an easy time with branding and has pushed exclusives as it's number one pro.
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Post by: mormapope on January 11, 2020, 08:39:21 PM
How do you guys feel about no true next gen exclusives? Matt Booty says all MS games will release on XO for the next 2 years.

Console war fanboy logic: "PlayStation is gonna have true next gen games!"

Business logic: "We wanna sell as much first party software possible"

The main difference between this gen and the next will be rendering resolution, load times, and maybe performance. Like, those technical things or issues will be the big ones addressed.

Scope, scale,  game design innovation, every game developer on the planet has had to play around with their own ambition versus budget constraints and time constraints. More RAM won't alter that significantly, a stronger GPU won't alter that significantly, an SSD won't alter that significantly.

The better question is, has Microsoft acquired enough talent to make good games outright. Nintendo developed Breath of the Wild for two pieces of hardware that are quite weaker than a base Xbone or PS4. But design decisions make that game something special.

Microsoft does have a taller hill to climb when it comes to ball swinging because of this, but it doesn't have negative connotation in reality for good games.

 :yeshrug

Like, if Sony unveils Killzone 5, a Resistance Fall of Man reboot, a fart sniff of God of War 2, an Infamous sequel, and Demon Souls Remake, and they're all PS5 exclusive....

 :snore
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 11, 2020, 08:47:58 PM
I mean that made up PS5 first party line up already sounds better then whatever MS did this gen.

And buying b tier developers like Ninja Theory and whoever made that 60s Drug England game don’t inspire confidence.
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Post by: mormapope on January 11, 2020, 08:56:55 PM
I mean that made up PS5 first party line up already sounds better then whatever MS did this gen.

And buying b tier developers like Ninja Theory and whoever made that 60s Drug England game don’t inspire confidence.

Microsoft buys studios that makes weirder games in the face of criticism based on them being a Forza/Halo/Gears butter churner.

"Hmmm, I'd much rather have the same butter Sony has been churning for two gens, thanks"

 :nope

The only thing more played out than Master Chief is pretending Killzone ever mattered besides the faked Killzone 2 trailer.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 11, 2020, 09:13:02 PM
I'm no fan of any of those games, but it's pretty dumb to downplay God of War 2 or a Demon Souls Remake. Lumping them with pretty meh stuff like Killzone and Resistance is kind of disingenuous. I'm not a huge fan of DS and I thought God of War was ok, but they are kind of critical and fan darlings.

Hellblade wasn't. Ninja Theory has been trying to ride the waves of the cinematic games that Sony studios have(maybe too narrowly focused on) perfected. So no, I'm not at all excited about Hellblade 2. And why would anyone be compared to say God of War 2.

And yeah We Happy Few was such a weird game.....that started as a boring ass generic playing survival game that they later tacked on a Bisoshock wanabe too. Albeit very poorly.  There's nothing that tells me Complusion games will make anything even the tier of say a Killzone. Except I guess it will have a unique art style. At least Killzone games look great too.

I mean there's nothing that tells me to not be skeptical of MS here. Ok yeah Sony's studios have basically created a pretty singular formula. But um...if you like those cinematic single player games you are getting the best in the industry. Meanwhile all I'm seeing MS is do is throw everything at the wall to see what sticks while playing catch up. Meanwhile, series like Gears and Halo have become pretty tired and boring. While hell God of W seems to have flourished.

Also I would take an Infamous sequel.
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Post by: mormapope on January 11, 2020, 09:24:43 PM
So if God of War 2 was cross gen, PS4 and PS5, would anyone honestly give a fuck besides justifying their own $400 or $500 purchase?

PS4 base: sub 1080p, 30FPS target
PS4 Pro: 4K upscaled 30FPS, 1080p 60FPS locked
PS5: 4K 60FPS

If the game is great, who would give a fuck that some people are playing the version that looks smeared and is running poorly?
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 11, 2020, 09:28:29 PM
Core gamers who want to see what a God of War 2 would look like made purely for PS5?

 I mean when you scale down for the lowest system, it's going to effect things beyond just graphics and performance.
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Post by: mormapope on January 11, 2020, 09:33:17 PM
Core gamers who want to see what a God of War 2 would look like made purely for PS5?

 I mean when you scale down for the lowest system, it's going to effect things beyond just graphics and performance.

Not true for:
Fighting games
Strategy games
Puzzle games
RPGs

Also, I'm a firm believer in fuck most core gamers. Fuck em in their dirty asses. I hope they rot in a stinky hell. Core gamers have been some of the dumbest fucks for 40 years.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 11, 2020, 09:37:37 PM
How is that not true for Fighting games or rpgs?

I mean even in the old days arcade ports would have to take out systems(like MvC's tag in the PS1) or important graphical features(Virtua Fighter ports) to make the ports work.

RPGs are pretty vague but I mean (not excactly an rpg) but the cross gen version of one of those Mordor games had to take out the entire Nemesis system.

So, no it's pretty true that scaling games for weaker systems effects many aspects of games.

And core gamers are simply people who buy video games beyond Madden or just Call if Duty and yeah I'm pretty sure most of them in the console space want to see games at the best of thier means.  I mean honestly after a year or so once people really start moving to the new systems, do cross gen versions of games do that great? Did Blops 3 or Advanced Warfare sell as great on PS3 and Xbox? Titanfall on 360 was a grat port, but did most people care? I doubt Battlefield 4 had a long life on PS3 compared to PS4. Did Square get that much shit for turning off the PS3 version of XIV because it was holding it back? A Grand Theft Auto 5 port continues to sell well probably to people who already had the last gen version because they want a better version.
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Post by: mormapope on January 11, 2020, 09:44:02 PM
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And core gamers are simply people who buy video games beyond Madden or just Call if Duty.

Mmmmm, you're still using the "hardcore gamer" definition that popped up in the PS2/Xbox/GC era. Where you were a "casual gamer" if you played GTA or Madden a lot.

A core gamer is someone that plays a lot of videogames, point blank. And most of those people suck a lotta dirty ass.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 11, 2020, 09:46:07 PM
No, I just see core gamers as anyone with an actual enthusiasm for games as a hobby and I don't really know how those people suck since well it's millions if not billions of people...
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 11, 2020, 10:07:11 PM
But either way my points have been.

I skeptical of MS's first party output compared to the what you may deem 'safe" and samey output of Sony.

I'm not sure Cross gen games actually have appeal as I believe people want the best version within thier means. And yeah I do think scaling can effect games so I'm unsure if it's actually worth it.

And I can't say if this idea from MS will hurt or help the Series X because as far as I'm aware a console manufacturer hasn't really had it's first party output been positioned this way. But I'm cautious as I kind of already feel Series X is being positioned weirdly.
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Post by: Nintex on January 12, 2020, 06:44:04 AM
How do you guys feel about no true next gen exclusives? Matt Booty says all MS games will release on XO for the next 2 years.

Console war fanboy logic: "PlayStation is gonna have true next gen games!"

Business logic: "We wanna sell as much first party software possible"

The main difference between this gen and the next will be rendering resolution, load times, and maybe performance. Like, those technical things or issues will be the big ones addressed.

Scope, scale,  game design innovation, every game developer on the planet has had to play around with their own ambition versus budget constraints and time constraints. More RAM won't alter that significantly, a stronger GPU won't alter that significantly, an SSD won't alter that significantly.

The better question is, has Microsoft acquired enough talent to make good games outright. Nintendo developed Breath of the Wild for two pieces of hardware that are quite weaker than a base Xbone or PS4. But design decisions make that game something special.

Microsoft does have a taller hill to climb when it comes to ball swinging because of this, but it doesn't have negative connotation in reality for good games.

 :yeshrug

Like, if Sony unveils Killzone 5, a Resistance Fall of Man reboot, a fart sniff of God of War 2, an Infamous sequel, and Demon Souls Remake, and they're all PS5 exclusive....

 :snore
Most of that is true if the CPU's of the Xbox One and PS4 weren't complete shit and they are. The Jaguar CPU when it came out was just awful this gen has been fairly limited by these shit CPU's.
The Zen CPU's on the other hand are what you want in a console but if you need your game to run on Xbox One/X you can't utilize all the cores.
Engines like UE4 are also moving towards "more cores = better". When devs make cross platform games they have to aim at the lowest spec (Xbox One) and move up from there.
In other words, they can only do what they're doing with the Xbox One X, which is to flick on a few more graphics options. Better CPU's allow for more complex AI's, expanded interactivity of game worlds and much more.
Part of the reason why early next gen games like Destiny and AC Unity ran so poorly was because developers expected better CPU performance across the board.

If they would do Xbox One versions of specific releases such as the new HALO that would make sense. But if there's not a single Xbox Series X exclusive for the first two years and it's all cross platform they're putting severe limits on next gen.
CONTROL for example is mostly a CPU limited game and the Xbox One and PS4 can't keep up (and neither can the Pro and X in certain scenes). A decent 5 - 8 year old Intel CPU is fine with that level of debris flying around. The Jaguar was shit when it launched.

The good thing about the Jaguars being shit is that you can port complex Xbox One and PS4 games like Witcher 3 to Nintendo Switch without having to worry about CPU requirements.
The second good thing is that on PC you don't have to upgrade your CPU for another generation and @1440p you can keep rocking the i7 4790k for another 5 years :lol
The Xbox One > Xbox One X was already akin to only allow devs to port NES games to the SNES.
Now we're talking about a GameCube > Xbox One X type of gap between Xbox One and Xbox Series X.
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Post by: Raist on January 12, 2020, 12:58:39 PM
How do you guys feel about no true next gen exclusives? Matt Booty says all MS games will release on XO for the next 2 years.

Isn't that exactly what happened this gen? :yeshrug
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 12, 2020, 03:10:19 PM
Not sure how this is any different to PC developers targeting a wide range of specs from low to high end, they've been doing that for years. "This only runs on i9 and 2080ti" would put you out of business pdq
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Post by: nachobro on January 12, 2020, 04:11:41 PM
the order 1886 :yuck
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 12, 2020, 04:20:31 PM
I really doubt Ryse would have ran on the 360 considering they couldn't get the 360 version going. So much for it being "easy".

No one wants cross gen games. They are a waste of time, resources, and only hold games back and I don't know how you can deny that. Xbox One already struggles with current gen games. How are you as a developer going to push animation, geometry, lighting, shaders, ai, scale, and whatnot on a macheine already struggling. Going to have to compromise. 
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Post by: thisismyusername on January 12, 2020, 06:10:39 PM
Not sure how this is any different to PC developers targeting a wide range of specs from low to high end, they've been doing that for years. "This only runs on i9 and 2080ti" would put you out of business pdq

It's different in the sense that generally once a new console releases cross-gen drops pretty fast. After like 6months to a year.
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Post by: paprikastaude on January 12, 2020, 09:10:40 PM
I didn't buy a PS4 until 3 years in, because I could still play the majority of worthwhile games on the previous generation. However, thanks to BC and upgradable games, a new console could now still be worthwhile even if it only acted as a revision. I.e. even if the exclusives are trash, this current generation still has a huge library of upcoming titles and it wouldn't be bad playing them with less load times and better graphics. Not to mention whatever is left in the backlog.

Couldn't care less about Sony 1st party, excluding things like Bloodborne, Astrobot and SotC once in a blue moon. However, I will main Playstation if it remains the safest place for day1 Japanese support. No way I'm waiting months or even years for the likes of Yakuza, Monster Hunter, Nier, etc. hitting either Xbox or PC. I'm only half-interested in the new MS studios, but I'm open to buying an Xbox if they make good things.
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Post by: kingv on January 12, 2020, 11:34:00 PM
I wonder if we will see games primarily for the Japanese market be held back tech-wise in future games partially because Switch is the best-selling console in their region. I think previous Ps4 development has created some momentum for these series to continue to be on PS4 because the engine already exists there, but I’m sure some bean counter is looking at the numbers and saying “you know, if we are going to have to invest in new engine technology, we need to find a way for Yakuza 8 to launch on Switch”
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Post by: Nintex on January 13, 2020, 03:58:52 PM
https://twitter.com/dark1x/status/1216469112798568450 (https://twitter.com/dark1x/status/1216469112798568450)

https://twitter.com/dark1x/status/1216735976996900865 (https://twitter.com/dark1x/status/1216735976996900865)

The bois at DF agree with me that the Jaguar is a piece of shit.
It was a piece of shit when it launched and a bigger piece of shit now.
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Post by: Trent Dole on January 13, 2020, 04:00:20 PM
I will Day One PS5 *only if* it has full, disc based PS4 BC as in I put inside:

- RDR2
- HZD
- TW3

And it works no questions asked.

If it doesn't work then I will wait for FROM SOFTWARE PS5 Exclusive (not found on PC/ Xbox).
Ooh, if PS5 has the same type of BC as Series X where literally everything that ran on the last gen machine runs on the new one and they don't inexplicably remove it later like they did with PS2 games on PS3 that would be a huge tilt in their favor for me. There's some 4 only stuff that I'd not mind fucking with but what's there isn't quite enough to make me cough up 350-400 for a Pro.
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Post by: nachobro on January 13, 2020, 04:29:22 PM
Yeah, Xbone just downloads the game from the store + any 4K upgrade patch and just uses the disc as a check that you own it. It basically does that for current gen games too, though for those it just copies the data from the disc and then downloads patches.

also this "cross gen only for 1-2 years" smells like bullshit to me. it's easy to say that now when no console is out, but if the xsx sells like hotcakes then ms is gonna be saying "what's an xbox one?" pretty quickly. sorta like what happened to those ps360 ports of mkx and tomb raider.
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Post by: nachobro on January 13, 2020, 04:57:08 PM
even so it'd be easy enough to throw a few cross gen third party titles on there and call it a day. plus some x1/360/og xbox titles and call it back compat for xsx owners while giving x1 owners some stuff.

even if they stick to it for a year i feel like it'd be easy enough to give xsx owners something extra to make sure they feel better about the $500 they spent like a high quality texture upgrade or fps increase if you play whatever 1st party title on xsx. that's what happens for some x1x titles anyway. pretty sure red dead 2 had an extra 20gb download on x1x at launch for 4k textures
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Post by: Fifstar on January 13, 2020, 05:41:38 PM
Maybe he meant they tested pc build around a jaguar cpu?

No idea if he has a background regarding programming, but he was known for being the 60 fos or bust guy back in the gag days.
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Post by: nachobro on January 22, 2020, 08:15:52 AM
https://twitter.com/Doug_DragoX/status/1219794270518947840
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Post by: Joe Molotov on January 22, 2020, 10:21:43 AM
@Timedog
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Post by: EightBitNate on February 24, 2020, 09:48:09 AM
12TF confirmed

:whoo
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Post by: nachobro on February 24, 2020, 10:22:03 AM
(https://news.xbox.com/en-us/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/02/Xbox_ShortBullets_JPG.jpg?w=1200)

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/02/24/what-you-can-expect-next-generation-gaming/?ocid=Platform_soc_omc_xbo_tw_Video_lrn_2.24.2
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Post by: nachobro on February 24, 2020, 10:51:27 AM
CDPR committing to making Cyberpunk cross-buy for X1/XSX. Any dev that doesn't do this is gonna be shitted upon pretty heavily I think.

https://twitter.com/CyberpunkGame/status/1231961469669068800
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Post by: demi on February 25, 2020, 12:30:09 PM
1X seems to be getting price drops to $300 at various stores
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Post by: Trent Dole on February 26, 2020, 01:51:45 AM
So this is gonna go for 5 or 600 then.
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Post by: Don Rumata on February 26, 2020, 08:43:24 AM
This fucking thing is going to be $700
People made similar arguments for ps4 with the rumored 8gb gddr5.
I think 499 is a safe bet.
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Post by: Raist on February 26, 2020, 01:27:04 PM
MS has been bleeding so much cash with Xbox, I don't think they give a fuck. Wouldn't be shocked if they go for 450-500 and just take the big L.
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Post by: nachobro on February 26, 2020, 02:09:43 PM
i don't remember what pod it was but they were mentioning for the indie games it'd be pretty easy to get them onto game pass. just pay the dev whatever they would be expecting to make on the platform over X years but give it to them upfront and a lot of devs would take the quick upfront money without too much problem.

plus according to phil gamepass members spend more on games and dlc than non members so that has to count for something.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - Render provided by TurboSquid.com
Post by: Raist on February 26, 2020, 02:17:02 PM
MS has been bleeding so much cash with Xbox, I don't think they give a fuck. Wouldn't be shocked if they go for 450-500 and just take the big L.

Bleeding what cash?  I think people think GamePass is some big cash bleed.. and by their own words, it isn't.. and logically it isn't either.   Remember that XBL Gold is practically pure profit for them, and even if you got GamePass for 3 years for $1 you still had to buy Gold for that... GamePass right now has eaten into profits IMO, not caused them to bleed cash.

They aren't paying nearly as much for games to be on GamePass as people think they are IMO.


Both the OG Xbox and the Bone were complete disasters. The 360 did OK although that was most likely not a great financial success, especially with the RRoD fiasco.

Back when they were publishing numbers, without obfuscating them by being rolled into other divisions, it didn't look pretty at all.
And ever since they stopped (early Bone years), it's been nothing but massive drops in % revenues every quarter.

You have to be quite delusional if you think the Xbox adventure made them money overall :neogaf
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Post by: mormapope on February 26, 2020, 03:59:38 PM
MS has been bleeding so much cash with Xbox, I don't think they give a fuck. Wouldn't be shocked if they go for 450-500 and just take the big L.

Bleeding what cash?  I think people think GamePass is some big cash bleed.. and by their own words, it isn't.. and logically it isn't either.   Remember that XBL Gold is practically pure profit for them, and even if you got GamePass for 3 years for $1 you still had to buy Gold for that... GamePass right now has eaten into profits IMO, not caused them to bleed cash.

They aren't paying nearly as much for games to be on GamePass as people think they are IMO.


Both the OG Xbox and the Bone were complete disasters. The 360 did OK although that was most likely not a great financial success, especially with the RRoD fiasco.

Back when they were publishing numbers, without obfuscating them by being rolled into other divisions, it didn't look pretty at all.
And ever since they stopped (early Bone years), it's been nothing but massive drops in % revenues every quarter.

You have to be quite delusional if you think the Xbox adventure made them money overall :neogaf

Is this post supposed to do anything but make you look like a bored Sony pony that has no games to play? 

Title: Re: Xbox Series X - Render provided by TurboSquid.com
Post by: Raist on February 26, 2020, 04:43:25 PM
No one said they have overall made money on the project, they are probably billions in the red.

I'm not entirely sure how this does not pretty much mean that they've been bleeding cash overall. Other than pedantic semantics ::)

Which goes back to my original point. They're not going to worry about taking an initial big loss on XxxBoxxX Series XxX.

Is this post supposed to do anything but make you look like a bored Sony pony that has no games to play?

Still waiting on the results of that half a decade investment in first party huh? :ohyou
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Post by: Don Rumata on February 26, 2020, 05:32:25 PM
Gamepass on PC isn't tied to Gold, so on that front, it's probably just an investment for the future.

Anyway, on the subject of selling at a loss, i just don't get why they'd do it, when selling the plastic box itself doesn't seem as crucial anymore, and instead pushing the service itself (cloud, or at least multi platform) seems to be the new hotness.
Even Sony is letting go of some exclusives.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - Corona Delay Incoming
Post by: nachobro on March 16, 2020, 08:37:21 AM
Some new info and slightly more detail

More console detail + specs: https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/03/16/xbox-series-x-tech/

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETOyINPU4AEoHLW?format=png&name=medium)

Controller info: https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/03/16/xbox-series-x-controller/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S82YvCtwfHY

https://youtu.be/0eBaPS3uj-A
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - Corona Delay Incoming
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on March 16, 2020, 08:55:11 AM
i have little reason to buy an xbox, cause i prefer pc and most if not all of their games is coming there. but that the controller is finally better for small boi hands like mine is sensational. thank you bill gates.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - Corona Delay Incoming
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 16, 2020, 11:45:31 AM
Plz don't delay noooo  :'(
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - Corona Delay Incoming
Post by: toku on March 16, 2020, 11:59:31 AM
consoles are in just such a weird position rn or I'm old
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - Corona Delay Incoming
Post by: Raist on March 16, 2020, 02:59:44 PM
Those internals are... something else :lol

https://youtu.be/4cmclCjS5jg
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - Corona Delay Incoming
Post by: Trent Dole on March 16, 2020, 03:03:50 PM
Haha a 3.8 cpu. I thought this was supposed to be the most op console ever. :doge
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - Corona Delay Incoming
Post by: Nintex on March 16, 2020, 04:02:11 PM
Sweet new Xbox how is HALO coming alo... "WATCH THIS VERY COOL PORT OF GEARS 5 WOOO BANG BANG FORZA PORT VROOOOMM"

So yeah about the new game from Ninja...

"WEEEEEE SEA OF THIEVES IS COMING TO XBOX ONE X SERIES X X X SERIES!!!"
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - Corona Delay Incoming
Post by: mormapope on March 16, 2020, 04:37:20 PM
This Xbox is making so many people blow loads, I anticipate next gen to be incredibly cutthroat and much closer to the 360/PS3 gen regarding competition.

consoles are in just such a weird position rn or I'm old

I'd say the gimmicks have been shed and the focus is solely on dedicated gaming machines. At this point, its bang for your buck, getting a comparable experience to gaming PC's for half the cost.

Title: Re: Xbox Series X - Corona Delay Incoming
Post by: nachobro on March 16, 2020, 06:13:42 PM
Haha a 3.8 cpu. I thought this was supposed to be the most op console ever. :doge
sounds like its a ryzen 3700 (non x) to me. that's pretty solid and definitely current gen pc tech. boost seems to be throttled a bit, probably for heat purposes.

as a comparison point, here's the x1x and ps4 pro (xbox on left, ps4 on right)

(https://i.imgur.com/lQE1goB.png)
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - Corona Delay Incoming
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 16, 2020, 06:28:53 PM
Wow so they arent going with a laptoo cpu again?

Nice
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - Corona Delay Incoming
Post by: benjipwns on March 16, 2020, 06:37:45 PM
does that DF video have an explanation for why 6GB of the RAM is clocked slower? or which set of RAM the OS reserves on?
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - Corona Delay Incoming
Post by: bluemax on March 16, 2020, 07:14:09 PM
Microsoft is doing some of their GDC talks starting tomorrow. There's one on Wednesday around noon Pacific about the XSX and xCloud.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - Corona Delay Incoming
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 18, 2020, 11:36:14 AM
Will this have some advantage when I run it in 1080p?

Like more gfx options or supersampling?
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - Corona Delay Incoming
Post by: Rufus on March 18, 2020, 11:57:49 AM
does that DF video have an explanation for why 6GB of the RAM is clocked slower? or which set of RAM the OS reserves on?
https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/fjy1sw/why_xbox_series_xs_dumb_106gb_memory/

This guy is on the right track, I think.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - Corona Delay Incoming
Post by: Coffee Dog on March 18, 2020, 12:18:59 PM
I really don't get how the high end hardware specs even  matter nowadays. You're going to be stuck playing games that have to run on my PS5 even if you blow six hundred bucks on the turbo xbox or whatever.

I can't think of a generation where the differences between consoles mattered less than this past one. Would be interesting if the Xbox's additional power actually got put to use.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - Corona Delay Incoming
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 18, 2020, 02:58:02 PM
Lmao sounds like something ps2/xbox one users would say
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - Corona Delay Incoming
Post by: kingv on March 18, 2020, 07:11:19 PM
I feel like the Bone and Ps4 were closer in actual games than any previous consoles.

There really weren’t many games on X1 that were truly unacceptable.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - Corona Delay Incoming
Post by: remy on March 18, 2020, 08:55:11 PM
I know i'm a neurotic freak because the thing I was most excited about was the low latency controllers.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - Corona Delay Incoming
Post by: nachobro on March 18, 2020, 08:58:17 PM
and old controllers being updated with the latency tech :lawd
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - Corona Delay Incoming
Post by: Nintex on April 16, 2020, 04:17:27 PM
Already leaked, Xbox One X Cyberpunk ed.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVvT8VGUMAAOAsZ?format=jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVvV8HuXQAAq8qX?format=jpg)
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - Corona Delay Incoming
Post by: Trent Dole on April 16, 2020, 07:03:21 PM
Is the console design based on a trapper keeper?
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - Corona Delay Incoming
Post by: Nintex on April 16, 2020, 08:01:08 PM
I kinda like the controller but I think you could've done something way cooler with the Cyberpunk aesthetic  :yeshrug
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - Corona Delay Incoming
Post by: thisismyusername on April 16, 2020, 08:36:58 PM
Oh, is that what the ARG Cyberpunk's social media was going on about? :goty2
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - Corona Delay Incoming
Post by: Ghoul on April 17, 2020, 04:02:25 PM
dumb bitches thought a demo would be end game.....

Also controller not even an Elite, GTFO.

Title: Re: Xbox Series X - Corona Delay Incoming
Post by: Nintex on June 15, 2020, 06:28:23 PM
So Xbox released some information on Smart Delivery.
https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/06/15/what-is-smart-delivery-xbox-series-x/ (https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/06/15/what-is-smart-delivery-xbox-series-x/)

These games will be Xbox Series X Optimized (although not all (including CP2077)) at launch.
Everything else will be backwards compatible.

Quote
Halo Infinite
Cyberpunk 2077
Assassin’s Creed Valhalla
Destiny 2
DiRT 5
Scarlet Nexus
Chorus
Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2
Yakuza: Like a Dragon
The Ascent
Call of the Sea
Gears 5
Second Extinction
Metal: Hellslinger

So we basically get 4 'tiers' of Xbox games.

- No Smart Delivery
- Backwards compatible
- Xbox Series X 'optimized'
- Actual next gen games (like Resident Evil 8 )
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - Corona Delay Incoming
Post by: MMaRsu on June 15, 2020, 06:58:38 PM
looks like a shit ljneup
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - Corona Delay Incoming
Post by: mormapope on June 15, 2020, 08:16:47 PM
Games that will be optimized at launch for next gen equals....a shit lineup. Are you saying the launch is going to be shitty? That isn't the entire library of launch games or games this fall  :lol

Even says in the link

Quote
As this list grows in the weeks and months leading up to the Xbox Series X launch, we’ll keep it updated to reflect any additions. 

Title: Re: Xbox Series X - Corona Delay Incoming
Post by: Don Rumata on June 15, 2020, 08:54:17 PM
So Xbox released some information on Smart Delivery.
https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/06/15/what-is-smart-delivery-xbox-series-x/ (https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/06/15/what-is-smart-delivery-xbox-series-x/)

These games will be Xbox Series X Optimized (although not all (including CP2077)) at launch.
Everything else will be backwards compatible.

Quote
Halo Infinite
Cyberpunk 2077
Assassin’s Creed Valhalla
Destiny 2
DiRT 5
Scarlet Nexus
Chorus
Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2
Yakuza: Like a Dragon
The Ascent
Call of the Sea
Gears 5
Second Extinction
Metal: Hellslinger

So we basically get 4 'tiers' of Xbox games.

- No Smart Delivery
- Backwards compatible

- Xbox Series X 'optimized'
- Actual next gen games (like Resident Evil 8 )
What is the difference between these? Is "no smart delivery" to say that the game *is* potentially optimized for next gen, but you gotta pay the update?
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - Corona Delay Incoming
Post by: Don Rumata on June 15, 2020, 08:58:31 PM
Games that will be optimized at launch for next gen equals....a shit lineup. Are you saying the launch is going to be shitty? That isn't the entire library of launch games or games this fall  :lol

Even says in the link

Quote
As this list grows in the weeks and months leading up to the Xbox Series X launch, we’ll keep it updated to reflect any additions. 
Also launch lineups are ALWAYS shit.
PS4 had Killzone Shadowfall and Knack as the biggest exclusives, and then, like Blackflag and Battlefield 4 as the biggest crossgens.  :-\
Even Infamous Second Son wasn't a launch game, but came out a bunch of months into 2014.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - Corona Delay Incoming
Post by: mormapope on June 15, 2020, 09:14:16 PM
So Xbox released some information on Smart Delivery.
https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/06/15/what-is-smart-delivery-xbox-series-x/ (https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/06/15/what-is-smart-delivery-xbox-series-x/)

These games will be Xbox Series X Optimized (although not all (including CP2077)) at launch.
Everything else will be backwards compatible.

Quote
Halo Infinite
Cyberpunk 2077
Assassin’s Creed Valhalla
Destiny 2
DiRT 5
Scarlet Nexus
Chorus
Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2
Yakuza: Like a Dragon
The Ascent
Call of the Sea
Gears 5
Second Extinction
Metal: Hellslinger

So we basically get 4 'tiers' of Xbox games.

- No Smart Delivery
- Backwards compatible

- Xbox Series X 'optimized'
- Actual next gen games (like Resident Evil 8 )
What is the difference between these? Is "no smart delivery" to say that the game *is* potentially optimized for next gen, but you gotta pay the update?

If you buy a last gen game, you get the updated Series X version for free. It's different from BC because improvements with BC games will be different than what's in current gen versions.

Quote
Lastly, some new and existing Xbox One titles will be Optimizing their games after the Xbox Series X launches.  For example, if you buy Cyberpunk 2077 when it launches on September 17, you’ll be set to explore Night City on Xbox One.  If you pick up Xbox Series X at launch this holiday, you can play it there too in compatibility mode picking up exactly where you left off. Then, when CD PROJEKT RED delivers an Xbox Series X Optimized version of Cyberpunk 2077, you’ll automatically get upgraded once it’s available at no additional cost

You don't pay for anything. It's basically saying, based on your purchases from last gen, and if there are Xbox Series X versions of games made, you get the best version when made available.

This is Microsoft telling us, expect a fuck ton of last gen updates or remasters from this gen.

A remastered version of Resident Evil 7 for PS5/Xbox comes out. Capcom gives the okay for Smart delivery. Instead of playing RE7 with BC mode, you'll automatically get the Series X version.

That's the jist of it.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X - Corona Delay Incoming
Post by: Nintex on July 06, 2020, 10:10:48 AM
https://twitter.com/Xbox/status/1280139454796009477 (https://twitter.com/Xbox/status/1280139454796009477)

 :rash
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: demi on July 06, 2020, 05:34:10 PM
I think people are going to be disappointed and come in with pitchforks ready but fuck it BC baby
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: paprikastaude on July 06, 2020, 08:39:08 PM
Sony only had Bethesda and Capcom, so I guess the other 3rd parties will be there like Namco with Elden Ring.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 06, 2020, 10:49:18 PM
When are these turds (Sony and MS) gonna reveal prices and release dates alfuckingready
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Trent Dole on July 07, 2020, 01:00:15 PM
There's a lot of playing chicken going on. Just put numbers between 400 and 600 in a hat and pull one out.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 07, 2020, 01:14:05 PM
make them free :biden
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on July 16, 2020, 06:50:11 PM
MS announced they've stopped production of the Xbox One X and Xbox One Digital Edition.
Only the Xbox One S remains in production.
https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/16/21327330/microsoft-xbox-one-x-s-digital-edition-discontinued (https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/16/21327330/microsoft-xbox-one-x-s-digital-edition-discontinued)
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Trent Dole on July 16, 2020, 07:47:34 PM
Killing the SAD edition makes sense cause it's stupid and sucks and nobody asked for it especially with them pricing it at whats the regular S edition is on sale for all the time but nixing 1X feels like an odd move to me.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: benjipwns on July 16, 2020, 08:56:52 PM
The One X has a unique hardware set, it's a third model effectively as it has its own CPU/GPU/RAM not shared with either the other One models or the Series X. It's easier to maintain the S line, then create a new "middle tier" model that's a clocked down or removed parts Series X but is the same hardware set inside.

Xbone S: Jaguar CPU, GCN2 GPU, DDR3 RAM
Xbone X: Jaguar Evolved CPU, GCN4 GPU, GDDR5 RAM
Series X: Zen2 CPU, RDNA2 GPU, GDDR6 RAM

Presumably the Lockhart would also be Zen2/RDNA2/GDDR6 but just with "less" of everything.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Raist on July 17, 2020, 06:03:58 AM
The One X has a unique hardware set, it's a third model effectively as it has its own CPU/GPU/RAM not shared with either the other One models or the Series X. It's easier to maintain the S line, then create a new "middle tier" model that's a clocked down or removed parts Series X but is the same hardware set inside.

Xbone S: Jaguar CPU, GCN2 GPU, DDR3 RAM
Xbone X: Jaguar Evolved CPU, GCN4 GPU, GDDR5 RAM
Series X: Zen2 CPU, RDNA2 GPU, GDDR6 RAM

Presumably the Lockhart would also be Zen2/RDNA2/GDDR6 but just with "less" of everything.

And no eSRAM. Not that it would have been necessary anymore. It's really weird how they've gone for such a broad set  of changes for a mid-gen "refresh" when it was rather clear that the "One" line was just never going to recover.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on July 17, 2020, 12:18:27 PM
Xbox One X was originally planned as a next gen machine with a new Zen CPU but Phil couldn't yet get the performance he wanted out of a new generation.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on July 22, 2020, 05:13:52 PM
https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1286038538769838081 (https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1286038538769838081)


 :thinking
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: BisMarckie on July 22, 2020, 06:16:23 PM
Meanwhile in Europe: Please take one, we‘ll almost pay you to take one.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Yulwei on July 22, 2020, 07:10:22 PM
https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1286038538769838081 (https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1286038538769838081)


 :thinking

I’ll be buying an Xbox this gen. Ps4 was a flimsy pos and I do not care for Sony’s movie games. I just want halo  :larry
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on July 22, 2020, 07:44:38 PM
https://twitter.com/aarongreenberg/status/1286054613385240576 (https://twitter.com/aarongreenberg/status/1286054613385240576)

No price, only games
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Don Rumata on July 22, 2020, 07:45:37 PM
Meanwhile in Europe: Please take one, we‘ll almost pay you to take one.
I dunno, Playstation's a couple of PC ports away from becoming pointless, for me. :thinking
At least Microsoft's got my attention on PC with Gamepass.  :doge
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Tasty on July 22, 2020, 07:46:08 PM
Wow it's really 2013 all over again :beli
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: BisMarckie on July 22, 2020, 07:49:12 PM
Meanwhile in Europe: Please take one, we‘ll almost pay you to take one.
I dunno, Playstation's a couple of PC ports away from becoming pointless, for me. :thinking
At least Microsoft's got my attention on PC with Gamepass.  :doge

I‘ll buy a Xbox at launch this gen. Full backwards compatibility seals the deal for me and with MLB The Show coming to Xbox starting next year, there is no reason to pick up a PS5 until a model revision and/or a significant price drop.
And Sony games prices always crater a coupoe of months after release, so I can pick up what I missed for a song.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Yulwei on July 22, 2020, 07:54:56 PM
Yup that’s another thing, their backwards compatibility is going to be great.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on July 22, 2020, 07:56:13 PM
For me it depends on the games how early I jump in.

Hopefully they have something cool tomorrow, like Perfect Dark or Ninja Gaiden, maybe a Lost Odyssey sequel.
Yes, I have very realistic expectations.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 23, 2020, 04:57:29 AM
Also Banjo-Threeie and a new Conker game.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 23, 2020, 05:15:16 AM
Itagaki has been working on a new game, but I dknt think we'll see a new Ninja Gaiden from him sadly.

More excited about the BC on XBX than most AAA MS games anyway
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Lonewulfeus on July 23, 2020, 07:45:17 AM
Yea full backwards compatibility with accessories and games is awesome, convinced me to pick up some physical games that had low print runs when they were being phased out for cheap knowing that even if I don’t get to them by the time the new console comes out I can just play them there.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Beezy on July 23, 2020, 11:20:46 AM
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1286319358562537479
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 23, 2020, 11:25:53 AM
Thats awesome but my Steam version?
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 23, 2020, 11:37:31 AM
Preshows are always shit and Microsoft cant make a decent presentation so we'll have to see how it goes

last presentation was ass
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Beezy on July 23, 2020, 11:39:32 AM
Thats awesome but my Steam version?
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1286322336954638337
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Positive Touch on July 23, 2020, 11:50:29 AM
steam is gonna flip if they offer this up full price with no discount for previous owners
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Yulwei on July 23, 2020, 11:53:28 AM
Balan Wonderworld looks cool
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 23, 2020, 11:54:05 AM
Does the girl on the IGN stream ever get to talk? Or is she just the diversity hire?

Edit: She actually got to talk once. Wow. :O
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 23, 2020, 12:03:34 PM
Seems they're starting off with some Halo Infinite gameplay.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Beezy on July 23, 2020, 12:07:34 PM
Youtube stream sucks. Switched to Twitch.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Yulwei on July 23, 2020, 12:08:40 PM
God I missed this halo goodness   :aah
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 23, 2020, 12:08:57 PM
Goodness?  :lol
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 23, 2020, 12:10:35 PM
It looks fine. It's running at 60fps. What are people even expecting from next gen.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Yulwei on July 23, 2020, 12:12:52 PM
4K 60fps confirmed awesome
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 23, 2020, 12:16:34 PM
It looks fine. It's running at 60fps. What are people even expecting from next gen.

I'm not talking about the graphics I'm talking about the art style, the way the shields look, the weapons look and sound weak af. What's wrong with a normal classic Halo SMG, DMR, Carbine etc? Needler?

I just don't like any of the 343i games art style wise. Not that I've played them but I never liked the look of them. This one seems more in line with Classic Halo but it's still just not there for me.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 23, 2020, 12:17:42 PM
Aww no Viva Pinata 3 :(
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Beezy on July 23, 2020, 12:19:41 PM
Some actual gameplay would've been nice, Rare...
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Yulwei on July 23, 2020, 12:20:26 PM
Looks fucking lame what is that rare shit even about?
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 23, 2020, 12:20:44 PM
Was she the voice of that girl in Viva Pinata?
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 23, 2020, 12:24:26 PM
Think the Dontnod thing was shown last year. Think they pushed the transgender character as a selling point on it.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 23, 2020, 12:26:44 PM
This show has been terrible so far.

as with ms is the case
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: thisismyusername on July 23, 2020, 12:29:16 PM
https://twitter.com/jeffgerstmann/status/1286323387900469248
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Yulwei on July 23, 2020, 12:29:48 PM
New obsidian rpg really interested in that
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 23, 2020, 12:32:42 PM
I really like it the artstyle is cool, reminds me of that Keanu movie with Woody
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on July 23, 2020, 12:36:04 PM
Kind of a lame showing so far.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 23, 2020, 12:36:13 PM
A Scanner Darkly?
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 23, 2020, 12:36:38 PM
Yeah a Scanner Darkly~!

Psychonauts 2 looks cool, still havent played the 1st one tho :(
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 23, 2020, 12:37:35 PM
That Xbox silver transition 3d logo is really bad  :lol
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 23, 2020, 12:39:18 PM
These people are creepy robots
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Beezy on July 23, 2020, 12:39:58 PM
I don't really care to seeing new games, but no gameplay. Halo Infinite and Psychonauts 2 are all I care about so far.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: tiesto on July 23, 2020, 12:40:17 PM
Rare's BOTW rip looks nice, graphically... but nothing else this show has really been jumping out at me. Thought the Dontnod game was Life is Strange 3 tbh.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 23, 2020, 12:40:48 PM
STALKER!!!!?????
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 23, 2020, 12:41:46 PM
Gotta be STALKER
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 23, 2020, 12:42:24 PM
STALKER 2!

I'm real excited now.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on July 23, 2020, 12:42:36 PM
Why even show Stalker? I very much doubt it comes out even next year.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: thisismyusername on July 23, 2020, 12:43:02 PM
Stalker 2 is whatever since GSC has been working on it since it's "revival" like 2-3 years ago.

No release date? Yeah, that's gonna be another 2-3 years away.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 23, 2020, 12:46:01 PM
I remember reading about STALKER for so long before it came out in all those PC Gaming mags I bought as a kid  :lol
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on July 23, 2020, 12:46:38 PM
I actually think the previous Inside Xbox showcase was better.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 23, 2020, 12:48:12 PM
Siberia?
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 23, 2020, 12:48:44 PM
SILENT HILL?
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 23, 2020, 12:49:58 PM
It's the Bloober game. They got Akira Yamaoka to do the music.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Yulwei on July 23, 2020, 12:50:24 PM
Holy shit PSO 3!!
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: demi on July 23, 2020, 12:52:15 PM
Yeah Xenoblade 3 looks sick
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 23, 2020, 12:53:42 PM
LMAO ENDING WITH CROSSIFRE  :lol+

nvm
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on July 23, 2020, 12:53:52 PM
That was an awful showing.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 23, 2020, 12:55:05 PM
Probably the new Fable.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 23, 2020, 12:55:39 PM
Dont end with a CG trailer/.

I hate CG trailers so much
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Akala on July 23, 2020, 12:56:47 PM
WHY
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: demi on July 23, 2020, 12:58:34 PM
GamePass + X is the hotness

Plus BC

Just need a price boys
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: BIONIC on July 23, 2020, 12:59:06 PM
 :snore
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Akala on July 23, 2020, 12:59:13 PM
I came in late but thought the Medium game looked neat and probably what they should be doing with Silent Hill. Will have to see what the Forza stuff was. Cool everything is coming to GP as well.

The PSO intro had me thinking SoA for a min and then I cried.

Fable CG was kind of funny but to have no gameplay at all to close was :picard
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Yulwei on July 23, 2020, 01:02:26 PM
GamePass + X is the hotness

Plus BC

Just need a price boys

Yup.
 
We got halo, avowed and a new PSO. Very happy with those 3 games. I’m day 1 for the new Xbox
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: thisismyusername on July 23, 2020, 01:09:30 PM
All this did was make me consider a pc

This didn't (https://www.instagram.com/p/CCs-N1Eh2Z5/)?
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 23, 2020, 01:23:24 PM
PC bro's  :itagaki
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: paprikastaude on July 23, 2020, 01:24:15 PM
The hell was this? I mean maybe the PS5 video didn't feel like a huge leap, but at least I got out with like 5 or 6 games to look forward to. This de-hyped me for surefire hits like Gamepass, because what would I even play on there.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 23, 2020, 01:25:31 PM
State of Decay 3 (no gameplay).
Forza (no gameplay).
Everwild (no gameplay).
Avowed (no gameplay).
As Dusk Falls (no gameplay).
Hellblade 2 (no gameplay, not even a trailer).
Stalker 2 (no gameplay).
Darktide (no gameplay).
Fable (no gameplay)
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: El Babua on July 23, 2020, 01:26:47 PM
The entire gaming industry's got nothing lmao
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on July 23, 2020, 01:28:00 PM
Can't say I was too impressed with what was shown. Sure I have my Sony bias, but I've in general enjoyed MS shows. I even enjoyed the last Inside Xbox.

This was juts boring and I feel like a showing that spoke to no one. You can say Sony has it's indie focus, but the PS5 still showed a wide range of games. Here it feel all too typical.

I thought Halo after all this time waiting looked meh. In a time where I feel open world design fatigue is starting to set in, showing me a map with random objectives does nothing to prove to me that Halo needed this. That you are going to do something exciting with an open world. Just what I lazily expect you too. Also whats with the look of the game? Maybe I'm the only one who liked it, but the "edgy hard sci-fi military look" 343 did for 4 and 5 looked like something..I don't know how to describe it, but Halo and a lot of what MS showed has this weird not quite cartoony, but still cartoony look. Not good cartoons either, like bland cartoons where they still want to look "realistic". Pretty much everything I saw here had no real exciting art direction. It was all very samey and typical.

State of Decay 3 CGi with diversity hire was whatever.

I'm pretty sure Everwild was announced before and while I feel the visuals looked good. I am kind of tired of the safe whimsy art direction thats overflowing with games these days. Games, please have your own personality. Also your trailer gave me no idea of what the game is.

Tell Me Why has the definition of the art generic cartoony, but realistic style I see. You know D4, had a cartoony, but real people look. But it was super colorful with neat character designs full of personality. Is every developer trying to look like Dotnod's episodic games? I have no interests in this game and Dotnods indie twee fixation is wearing thin. Because in the end thier games are pretty shit in the writing department. Featuring the nuance and stubltly of a CW drama. 

Ori ok I guess, for people who like it. But did a patch announcement need to be in your "buy the system" showing.

I don't care about what Obsidian showed. I don't like crafting games. Their new game was nothing.

Fade to Shadow or whatever looked like some woke shit I don't care about with lame imitation of GTA cover artwork.

I can't believe you did'nt show Hellblade gameplay.

Destiny 2 was the GTA5 moment, but at least that was early in the Sony show.

Tetris, I don't know much about.

The Gunk and Medium could be cool, but maybe this is just my political incorrect self and it's good that games are trying to shed the stereotypical images people have of them. But so much of what MS showed looked forced in that regard.

Phantasy Star 2 asset flip round 2 is whatever. Not 100% sure what that is, but it looked ugly.

Vermintide sci fi is cool I guess.

And then Crossfire X. I thought this was canceled, but glad is not. The multi is whatever, but a remedy FPS is appealing. It looks like it's an actual effort 2 and the dumb 2002 stylish cool look is hey fine by me.

Fable, ok for a last surprise.

All in all, I just found the showing to be boring. Nothing really told me that MS has it in them.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Let's Cyber on July 23, 2020, 01:29:31 PM
Looks fucking lame what is that rare shit even about?
I've been super intrigued since they first showed it last year, but the fact they've shown it twice and we still don't know what the fuck you actually do is very bad. If it's some kind of exploration/survival co-op game, cool. Just tell us.

Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: paprikastaude on July 23, 2020, 01:32:00 PM
State of Decay 3 (no gameplay).
Forza (no gameplay).
Everwild (no gameplay).
Avowed (no gameplay).
As Dusk Falls (no gameplay).
Hellblade 2 (no gameplay, not even a trailer).
Stalker 2 (no gameplay).
Darktide (no gameplay).
Fable (no gameplay)

Who needs gameplay when you can have ... an Iceland documentary? :confused
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 23, 2020, 01:37:20 PM
State of Decay 3 (no gameplay).
Forza (no gameplay).
Everwild (no gameplay).
Avowed (no gameplay).
As Dusk Falls (no gameplay).
Hellblade 2 (no gameplay, not even a trailer).
Stalker 2 (no gameplay).
Darktide (no gameplay).
Fable (no gameplay)

Who needs gameplay when you can have ... an Iceland documentary? :confused

 :lol :lol :lol

Good one
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: paprikastaude on July 23, 2020, 01:38:14 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Q0Pw81F.png)

 :whatisthis
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Rufus on July 23, 2020, 01:39:02 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 23, 2020, 01:46:28 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Q0Pw81F.png)

 :whatisthis

Reminds me of another fine Xbox title

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdoOxQEWoAA42EY?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 23, 2020, 01:53:09 PM
no lost odyssey 2 :stahp

my sources let me down :tocry
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 23, 2020, 02:01:19 PM
Just imagine them going on an actual E3 Stage Show with this fucking sheit.

 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Akala on July 23, 2020, 02:03:58 PM
I have faith Darktide will be good.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 23, 2020, 02:04:34 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdoSGkYWsAA4dXT?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: mormapope on July 23, 2020, 02:05:55 PM
I'd genuinely pay the launch price of the new Xbox to take a dirty Covid shit into MMaRsu's mouth.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on July 23, 2020, 02:06:26 PM
Halo had this weird “clay shading” look.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Let's Cyber on July 23, 2020, 02:08:26 PM
Even when MS had a really good e3, like 2018, all their biggest announcements were 3rd party. 

They should have combined this with the May show, cut A LOT of the fat and had much more gameplay.

Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 23, 2020, 02:10:12 PM
I'd genuinely pay the launch price of the new Xbox to take a dirty Covid shit into MMaRsu's mouth.

What did I do now? I didn't make a shitty looking Halo game sorry bud

Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Yulwei on July 23, 2020, 02:11:57 PM
The hell was this? I mean maybe the PS5 video didn't feel like a huge leap, but at least I got out with like 5 or 6 games to look forward to. This de-hyped me for surefire hits like Gamepass, because what would I even play on there.

U looking forward to Sony’s 1440p 24fps movie games? Can’t relate. I’ll be on Xbox playing at 4k60fps  :snob
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: paprikastaude on July 23, 2020, 02:15:39 PM
Even when MS had a really good e3, like 2018, all their biggest announcements were 3rd party. 

They should have combined this with the May show, cut A LOT of the fat and had much more gameplay.

Yeah, past couple of years it was good for 3rd parties, even if you don't care for MS offerings by their own.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on July 23, 2020, 02:16:06 PM
I’ll take the movie games that have more gameplay then MS’s continuation of tired franchises, MS own attempts at “movie” games by b level Sony cast off developers, and “look at me I’m progressive by having crafting whimsy” games.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: mormapope on July 23, 2020, 02:17:42 PM
I'd genuinely pay the launch price of the new Xbox to take a dirty Covid shit into MMaRsu's mouth.

What did I do now? I didn't make a shitty looking Halo game sorry bud

You're the loudest, most whiny cocksucker in multiple threads at this point. If you were a bigger bitch, your asshole could fit a PS5 with no lube.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Positive Touch on July 23, 2020, 02:18:13 PM
tell me that halo shot isn't real PLEASE
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 23, 2020, 02:21:23 PM
I'd genuinely pay the launch price of the new Xbox to take a dirty Covid shit into MMaRsu's mouth.

What did I do now? I didn't make a shitty looking Halo game sorry bud

You're the loudest, most whiny cocksucker in multiple threads at this point. If you were a bigger bitch, your asshole could fit a PS5 with no lube.

Hey I'm excited about multiple games, you must seem to not come across those threads or something. When something is shit I'll call it out. Psychonauts 2 looked awesome to me, as I said earlier I'm pretty excited for that.

The Medium also looked like an interesting game.

Aside from that the presentation was mediocre, 6 or 7 at most. Criticism doesn't equal whing tho
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on July 23, 2020, 02:22:01 PM
Halo is open world and on the Xbox One. Are they aiming for 60 FPS on that? I’m pretty sure massive concessions have to be made.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Boredfrom on July 23, 2020, 02:25:11 PM
I like the idea of a Halo open world (because I loved the semi open areas of Halo 1) but this kind of looks unimpressive.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Yulwei on July 23, 2020, 02:27:25 PM
I’ll take the movie games that have more gameplay then MS’s continuation of tired franchises, MS own attempts at “movie” games by b level Sony cast off developers, and “look at me I’m progressive by having crafting whimsy” games.

Idk about all that but you should just go watch movies instead. Halo multiplayer will be  :delicious
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: brawndolicious on July 23, 2020, 02:28:24 PM
Seemed like a great show to me.

As far as Halo's graphics, apparently it's been in development for five years and it's planned to be a 10 year game platform like Destiny 2 (so continuous updates). So I actually wouldn't be surprised if they haven't made new assets for XSX yet, we'll see with the future updates I guess.

A lotta CGI though, I think the only games that looked jaw dropping and realtime were Forza and Everwild. But overall, it actually had some games I'm interested in.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on July 23, 2020, 02:37:02 PM
I hope Halo multi is a return of quality. It’s been shit since 3. But I doubt it will because they’ll want to focus on esports.

I’ve also never really understood the movie meme in regards to Sony games. Beyond chasing trends and being samey, it’s not like Sony games have less gameplay then any other modern game. Few are masterclass in game mechanics and design. But I’m not sure how GoW or Horizon are more movies then game. Certainly stuff like Bloodborne aren’t. Even things like Gravity Rush 2 aren’t heavy on cinematics.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 23, 2020, 02:43:30 PM
HALO 3 multi shit boii u fucked up
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on July 23, 2020, 02:50:59 PM
I didn’t like H3 multi as much as 2, if at all at release.

It seems good now compared to what came after.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: brawndolicious on July 23, 2020, 02:59:54 PM
I liked the last couple Halo multiplayers but my main multiplayer games have always been R6 and Battlefield, so maybe there's some depth I don't notice. It's the co-op that makes the series iconic for me though.

I'm just more shocked that the world looked so damn empty, like Halo:CE levels.

What the fuck have they been doing for 5 years?

And fucking fire Stinkles already.

There were some stories about the 343 being in development hell and whatnot, probably restarted the project a few times. To me, it makes sense that they were planning to be a late xbone release and then MS told them to make it a XSX launch game. So they locked everything to 4K/60 fps and are gonna plan to roll out visual updates to the XSX version. Hell, they even said that there's going to be an update post-launch that adds ray-tracing...

I think Halo Infinite on XSX is going to be the first HD remake of a last-gen game, basically. The good news is that 343 have legitimate technical wizards and the hardware is very capable. But I'm guessing we'll have to wait at least a year or two before we see a Halo game with graphics that cause a notable tumescence. They might have to sort out a ground-up rebuild of the engine and integrating that with all new assets.

It's console launches man.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: demi on July 23, 2020, 03:30:09 PM
I was as impressed with Halo Infinite as I was Gears 5 - both equally drab and boring and summarizes - "yep, that's a videogame"

I'll be playing DQXI and my older BC games instead

While waiting for 60fps Destiny
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: demi on July 23, 2020, 03:38:28 PM
Seems like DQXI looks works on the Xbox than it did on the switch.

You take the good with the bad. Good thing it's on GamePass
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: demi on July 23, 2020, 03:40:33 PM
I was as impressed with Halo Infinite as I was Gears 5 - both equally drab and boring and summarizes - "yep, that's a videogame"

I'll be playing DQXI and my older BC games instead

While waiting for 60fps Destiny

People who don't like shooters in a nutshell.

"OMG, how original... a shooter...

.. I'll be busy playing something original.. like the ELEVENTH game in this JRPG series, whose gameplay has barely changed since the late 90s."

edit:  OK i just read your Destiny comment.. lol.. I look dumb but gonna leave it anyways.

While you still look stupid, you really think there was anything interesting in what they showed? Master Chief has a grappling hook now, sick. Nobody's playing this for the campaign, they want that multiplayer
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Raist on July 23, 2020, 04:02:01 PM
That 1st party investment Phil The Saviour Spencer has been talking about for the past 5+ years is finally paying off :rejoice


spoiler (click to show/hide)
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
[close]
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Trent Dole on July 23, 2020, 04:05:07 PM
GamePass + X is the hotness

Plus BC

Just need a price boys
PSO2 TWO got me thinking about jumping in earlier than I thought I would. :-*
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Yulwei on July 23, 2020, 04:10:25 PM
GamePass + X is the hotness

Plus BC

Just need a price boys
PSO2 TWO got me thinking about jumping in earlier than I thought I would. :-*

I am so fucking excited for the new PSO 2. Definitely the surprise of the conference for me.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: demi on July 23, 2020, 04:16:33 PM
Yes I would enjoy watching 8 minutes of someone playing DQXI, just like I enjoyed 8 minutes of people playing Xenoblade nu-PSO2
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on July 23, 2020, 04:26:59 PM
Don’t really agree with you. People loved and still remember that Halo 2 E3 Gameplay demo. Because it showed an exciting and well renderd alien invasion of earth. With great scale and cool set pecies. It looked great for the time. Had new gameplay mechanics that people couldn’t wait to see would effect multi. Hinted at a story that would be taking it up a notch from the first game. It was just an amazing looking demo.


Halo Infinite just looked like a meh open world game.

 They didn’t really prove why the game needed to open world beyond that’s what’s popular. If you took away the map stuff and just said this was a new Hall, it would just look like every other Halo. What should have been showed off is what an open world brings to Halo.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Yulwei on July 23, 2020, 04:53:10 PM
Just look at this in fullscreen.

https://content.halocdn.com/media/Default/community/InfiniteCoverArt/halo-infinite-2020_ascension_demo_campaign_10_4k-fafc3967fd0444c590a54835104fa01d.png (https://content.halocdn.com/media/Default/community/InfiniteCoverArt/halo-infinite-2020_ascension_demo_campaign_10_4k-fafc3967fd0444c590a54835104fa01d.png)

wtf is going on with that? I don’t give a shit about graphics but this just looks wrong.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: brawndolicious on July 23, 2020, 05:07:29 PM
Just look at this in fullscreen.

https://content.halocdn.com/media/Default/community/InfiniteCoverArt/halo-infinite-2020_ascension_demo_campaign_10_4k-fafc3967fd0444c590a54835104fa01d.png (https://content.halocdn.com/media/Default/community/InfiniteCoverArt/halo-infinite-2020_ascension_demo_campaign_10_4k-fafc3967fd0444c590a54835104fa01d.png)

wtf is going on with that? I don’t give a shit about graphics but this just looks wrong.

Probably 2 dropships landed or something?

Or just 1.. I think 8 enemies can drop at once.

I think he means the lighting looks like a toasted butthole.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on July 23, 2020, 05:13:22 PM
So uh, the work Remedy did on that CrossfireX trailer was pretty cool  :yeshrug
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on July 23, 2020, 05:21:30 PM
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/372121005889552384/735914420093321296/1595523976415.png?width=960&height=511)

tfw HALO is a platform now


This shit is in development hell for the past 5 years, everything is horribly outdated and we can't just start over. Honestly it looks worse than The Conduit  :existential

just call it a platform  :idont
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on July 23, 2020, 05:22:38 PM
At the end of the day I don’t really care. While I think for MS big next gen title Halo looks underwhelming. I think it’s really the art direction that looks lame. Like I feel 343 had something good going on in 4 and 5. Those games had a more gritty sci-fi look to me.  I know Halo fans didn’t like it and they seem to have stepped back from it. Creating something that looks I guess feels a bit more clean looking. I don’t care for it. But I’m sure the game will have good image quality and run well. It will be polished and on the end that’s fine.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: thisismyusername on July 23, 2020, 05:30:21 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Q0Pw81F.png)

 :whatisthis

Please understand, COVID caused us to make Halo look like a launch PS3 title.</343>
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on July 23, 2020, 05:33:12 PM
I’m still interested in it. Open world Halo is a logical step for the sandbox shooter and should work. I just hope 343 offers plenty of freedom in how to tackle things. I feel like they are really trying with this one. It’s make or break for them after 4/5.  I feel like they are trying to bring Halo back to its core while still modernizing it. So I’m going to give it a chance.



Probably on my One X though.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 23, 2020, 05:35:20 PM
yeah cant wait to disable the three towers, such interesting mission design

This open world shit is exactly the shot in the arm this franchise needed
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: thisismyusername on July 23, 2020, 05:38:13 PM
The good news is that 343 have legitimate technical wizards and the hardware is very capable.

:girlaff

"Technical Wizards."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rYrr-Fybik

:girlaff

This open world shit is exactly the shot in the arm this franchise needed

TBH, those are kind of the worst levels in Halo. But in any case, the multiplayer and PC/engine performance and numerous bugs are what I'm worried about than "I CAN'T FINISH THE FIGHT!!!!!"-Post Halo 3 lore-campaignisms.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: thisismyusername on July 23, 2020, 05:41:33 PM
People loved and still remember that Halo 2 E3 Gameplay demo. Because it showed an exciting and well renderd alien invasion of earth.

...And then none of that happened past 2 levels. Two.

Oh, sure, post Halo-2 you get a few more levels on Earth. But the point remains: They hyped up the invasion of Earth, then OOPS! ALL HALOS!

Bungle, like 3Tr4sh3 have the same issues: They start something, then as deadline approaches, they find out it doesn't work on the hardware/performance issues or the game isn't "fun," scrap everything and then crunch hard for a year or two to deadline. Thing is, Bungle got something decent out for 3-4 titles, 343 hasn't.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on July 23, 2020, 05:48:52 PM
yeah cant wait to disable the three towers, such interesting mission design

This open world shit is exactly the shot in the arm this franchise needed
I mean that’s my fear that it will be that. I mean I expect some of that and yeah this showing was whatever.

But Halo has always been sandbox driven and not set piece driven ala CoD.

So if like in Infinite they give me a mission where I’m supposed to say attack this Scarab and are like “well it’s moving around this valley, you need to figure out how to approach it”. My options could be to get to higher ground and snipe some enemies off it and then get in an atv and ride up. Maybe I use a pelican and attack from the sky before just landing on it. Maybe I get a tank and attack from distance before going in close. If there’s co-op, even more possibilities.

Basically I want Hitman but Halo.

I want the Far Cry I’ve imagined.


Username: yeah that’s what happen in the end. But my point was more that by my reading, ritious was saying an extended demonstration would be boring. Where as I remember very fondly Halo 2’s E3 demo and how exciting it seemed. Bought an Xbox for my birthday because of it.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: BisMarckie on July 23, 2020, 05:50:48 PM
Ryse was such garbage lol

It was worth the 5 bucks I paid for it. Just like The Order

Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: BisMarckie on July 23, 2020, 05:56:12 PM

I respect my time.

See, that’s where we differ. I don’t, whether this means spening hours to save 60 bucks on mlb.tv or driving 100 miles to save 10 bucks of shipping costs just because I could refuel my car on the company‘s dime.  :doge

I should have take some econ classes :existential
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on July 23, 2020, 06:03:42 PM
Ryse got a lot of shit early in the generation because people expected more from Next Gen games but it wasn't this garbage pile people made it out to be.

Meanwhile, Microsoft can't even get its story straight on the cross gen stuff:
https://kotaku.com/microsoft-walks-back-promise-to-make-its-games-cross-ge-1844484364

There's also a rumor floating around that Fable is an MMO or rather 'PLATFORM'.
I dunno it all seems like a big fart, not even Fable is there at launched.
What seemed interesting to me:

- CrossfireX Remedy Campaign
- Psychonauts 2
- The Medium
- S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 (will never release though)

from the previous announcements Hellblade 2 but that won't ship until 2022.

Perfect Dark will be shown in August I guess?
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: BisMarckie on July 23, 2020, 06:07:47 PM
If you buy an Xbox for the first party stuff or exclusives in general, you mist have missed the past decade. I still like Forza and Forza Horizon, but I‘ll buy an Xbox for BC and gamepass :trumps

And I somehow like getting Xbox achievements, there is something about these achievement pop ups :existential
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: BisMarckie on July 23, 2020, 06:10:21 PM


But you'd have to pay me good money to play a game like Ryse. Like maybe $1000



Become the male equivalent of a tits streamer and we‘ll make it happen :shaq

My bits are ready :rejoice
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on July 23, 2020, 06:17:21 PM
I will likely go with Xbox too just as I have an Xbox One X now but this was supposed to be the mic drop next gen unveil of the greatest line-up in Xbox history.
Next gen is an absolute clown show. We don't even know what these machines are going to cost when they hit the market in about 3 months.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Borealis on July 23, 2020, 06:17:50 PM
I guess Infinite's art style is decent enough, but it's like the ambient occlusion, blood effects, and depth of field etc. are missing in action.

Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Raist on July 23, 2020, 06:22:27 PM
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/372121005889552384/735914420093321296/1595523976415.png?width=960&height=511)


 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: BisMarckie on July 23, 2020, 06:31:29 PM
Tradition I guess. I don’t follow the phone market at all, but doesn’t Apple tell the price of their newest IPhone when they announce it?
The console market is also driven by preorders, bei it software or hardware. Retailers not taking preorders so close to launch is unprecedented.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 23, 2020, 06:33:29 PM
Are those halo screenshots from the 360 version :yuck
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: BisMarckie on July 23, 2020, 06:44:21 PM
Tradition I guess. I don’t follow the phone market at all, but doesn’t Apple tell the price of their newest IPhone when they announce it?
The console market is also driven by preorders, bei it software or hardware. Retailers not taking preorders so close to launch is unprecedented.
Yeah usually about 2 weeks before they release. 


lol,

well,  told you I don‘t follow the phone market  :doge
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on July 23, 2020, 07:29:26 PM
(https://i.redd.it/nua84y4zaoc51.jpg)
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 23, 2020, 07:37:24 PM
(http://images be fucked)
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 23, 2020, 07:41:36 PM
I know the console be harking back to the OG Xbox huge black monolith but didn't think the games would too
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: nudemacusers on July 23, 2020, 07:46:03 PM
this comment sums it up better than anything else

Quote
I’m talking about how it looks, not FPS or resolution.

will wait for 30-ish fps games to be demoed before getting in a tizzy about ssd's and tflops.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: nudemacusers on July 23, 2020, 07:53:17 PM
343 duh. that pop in lol.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 23, 2020, 07:56:42 PM
is halo 4k 60fps?
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Yulwei on July 23, 2020, 07:56:56 PM
Yes
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 23, 2020, 07:58:07 PM
that explains it, geez, what a mistake
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: nudemacusers on July 23, 2020, 08:04:46 PM
then again i don't care about halo at all just gimme some sweet crossplats and/or rpgs* so i can sit on my lazy ass and play

*watered down for my controller inputs ofc :cody
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: naff on July 23, 2020, 08:08:28 PM
I thought infinite looked really nice in motion. 4k/60 w smoove cartoony enemies :rejoice

An open world with piles of generic crud to trudge through though  :doge
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 23, 2020, 08:09:23 PM
is halo 4k 60fps?

It's 60fps. If it's 4k remains to be seen.

hope it is, would explain things
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: nudemacusers on July 23, 2020, 08:09:27 PM
I thought it was confirmed locked 60fps/4K, at least on the xsx?

oh right it's open world... hmm, that might do it for me. love me some basic bitch open world shit. :lawd
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: naff on July 23, 2020, 08:10:19 PM
pls name one open world fps that isn't trash

Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: nudemacusers on July 23, 2020, 08:20:00 PM
pls name one open world fps that isn't trash
i play skyrim like a fps :trumps
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: naff on July 23, 2020, 08:25:16 PM
yah, same tbh. bow master 4 eva. to answer my own q, for traditional fps, i dig stuff like dishonoured, but to me that's not really open world. more like a contiguous series of well designed areas. stalker worked at the time, but haven't played the sequels. i didn't hate metro: exodus.

i really dislike the modern far cry games though, though far cry 2 had some great moments. i got a real far cry / rage feel from that demo  :-\

guess i liked borderlands too, but this isn't a shlooter.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: headwalk on July 23, 2020, 08:25:39 PM
pls name one open world fps that isn't trash

get out of here, stalker
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: naff on July 23, 2020, 08:33:31 PM
stalker is more of a survival horror though. the open world given meaning due to the difficulty and dopamine rush of successfully traversing it.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: thisismyusername on July 23, 2020, 08:34:48 PM
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/372121005889552384/735914420093321296/1595523976415.png?width=960&height=511)


 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Chief, I am disappoint.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 23, 2020, 08:35:29 PM
open snore zzz
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: naff on July 23, 2020, 08:39:45 PM
reckon the grapple is a metroid style upgrade to the mjolnir armour?
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: naff on July 23, 2020, 08:48:23 PM
still - the blurb on their demo vid says: "Enjoy a first-look at Halo Infinite campaign gameplay, captured real-time and representative of the experience on Xbox Series X running at 60FPS and up to 4K resolution."
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: naff on July 23, 2020, 08:54:56 PM
likely just means the max it supports is 4k. even if it's dynamic res, it'll be upscaling to 4k if that's what your output is set to.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Rufus on July 23, 2020, 09:04:48 PM
stalker is more of a survival horror though. the open world given meaning due to the difficulty and dopamine rush of successfully traversing it.
Until you loot a few dead Stalkers, anyway. The only reason you ever run short on ammo in those games are the sheer number of enemies, not because resources are scarce.

But I get what you mean. They're tense exploration games which turn into a full-blown horror games whenever you're sent inside a facility.

likely just means the max it supports is 4k. even if it's dynamic res, it'll be upscaling to 4k if that's what your output is set to.
There's the lower powered and cheaper Lockhart version of the hardware as well, which I expect will target 1080p.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: naff on July 23, 2020, 09:12:44 PM
likely just means the max it supports is 4k. even if it's dynamic res, it'll be upscaling to 4k if that's what your output is set to.

So, not native 4k.

yes.

Would be incredibly surprised if XSX doesn't support native 4k for this game though. X1X supported 4k/30 native for RDR2.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Yulwei on July 23, 2020, 09:12:44 PM
Yeah I think they are saying “up to” 4K because the non XSX consoles will run it at lower res. I mean Infinite clearly isn’t a looker so there is nothing unbelievable about it being 4k native @ 60fps.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on July 23, 2020, 09:21:20 PM
Again, what the fuck does up to 4k mean?
It means in the 2nd half of the gen games will run at 1080p/1440p  with some being 4k30.

Edit-I guess the PS4 mostly has games run at 1080p. But I don’t expect every game to be 4K next gen.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: naff on July 23, 2020, 09:26:50 PM
Devs are moving away from native 4K in general.

i really hope so.

i know generally pc gamers i know are buying into 1440p / 3440x1440 ultra wide monitors instead of 4k because 1080 -> 1440 is a significant upgrade whereas 1440 -> 2160 is barely discernible and is incredibly taxing on your card.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: thisismyusername on July 23, 2020, 09:34:48 PM
Devs are moving away from native 4K in general.

i really hope so.

i know generally pc gamers i know are buying into 1440p / 3440x1440 ultra wide monitors instead of 4k because 1080 -> 1440 is a significant upgrade whereas 1440 -> 2160 is barely discernible and is incredibly taxing on your card.

Not even. Low budget folks are sub 720 right now.

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam

Not a MASSIVE market, but 4K is a meme and will continue to be a meme for anyone but ultra-overclocking and downsampling memers.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: remy on July 23, 2020, 09:42:36 PM
10% of steam users at 1366 x 768 still jeezus  :doge

I agree re: the 1440p vs 4k arguement. 1440 is crispy, 4k is the same but my  computer runs like shit.  1440p60fps would be what i would like the gen to shoot for but i bet we're gonna get a bunch of 1080p 30fps with "checkerboard" bullshit upscaling stuff going on
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: nudemacusers on July 23, 2020, 09:43:14 PM
but my 4k tv doe  :'(
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Yulwei on July 23, 2020, 09:52:49 PM
but my 4k tv doe  :'(

This. I want native 4k fuck everyone else  :sheik
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: naff on July 23, 2020, 09:57:39 PM
i mean, same, but the internal upscaling is fine. better to have a lower internal res running at a stable 30 (or 60+ fps) with more complex detail than simple poly smooth brain low texture environments and models so you see the smoothness running at native 4k.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: bork on July 23, 2020, 10:08:58 PM
https://twitter.com/Ellisrael/status/1286372119874543616
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: nudemacusers on July 23, 2020, 10:11:24 PM
is sprinting some kind of controversy in the halo world lol? tbh the movement of the games i've played (1,2,3, only multiplayer) felt really slow and 'bouncy'.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: naff on July 23, 2020, 10:12:37 PM
console gamers: omg, these lazy devs better make this game running on mid range hardware support 4k

also console gamers: why does it look so shitty!?

RTX is another check box feature they're touting for this console that is really just a gimmick for now. Sure, if you reduce complexity everywhere else it looks pretty cool, but I don't want all my games looking like a high res, well lit versions of games from the 90s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9vXz9-C-AY

Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: nudemacusers on July 23, 2020, 10:29:25 PM
ah, never considered the 'shoot and jump' aspect of that.. makes sense. i'm a fps noob and terrible at them.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Pennywise on July 23, 2020, 11:39:43 PM
“Part of the reason we haven’t talked a lot about Everwild is because we’re still feeling a lot of these things out. We’re still playing around with gameplay ideas."

It kinda sounds like they have nearly zero titles within 2021 and the majority of games are really far out.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on July 23, 2020, 11:42:08 PM
Whats a good 144hz wide monitor(is wide worth it?)?
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: bork on July 23, 2020, 11:45:09 PM
Whats a good 144hz wide monitor(is wide worth it?).

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/ultrawide-gaming

Ultra-wide is absolutely worth it for PC, but the jury's still out on whether it ends up being widely-used for Series X.

Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: BrokenVerses on July 23, 2020, 11:53:02 PM
Gorilla alien memes aside, Halo just looks so tired now. It should have been put out to pasture years ago.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: thisismyusername on July 24, 2020, 12:14:59 AM
is sprinting some kind of controversy in the halo world lol? tbh the movement of the games i've played (1,2,3, only multiplayer) felt really slow and 'bouncy'.

Yes. It's an "armor ability" in Halo: Reach, 4, and 5. People don't like it. Mostly because they just made the maps BIGGER to make it feel like you're covering ground faster when in reality you aren't.

I wish I had that 4chan /v/ clip where they timed it.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: thisismyusername on July 24, 2020, 12:16:50 AM
The future is gonna be things like Sony’s checkerboard rendering, AI based techniques like DLSS and others. 

Rendering the entire frame native 4K is a waste but you can do all kinds of things to come close and outside of examining screenshots or sitting too close to a monitor or something you’d hardly notice the difference, whereas you’ll definitely notice the effects that can be enabled or the frame rate increase using those techniques.

DLSS is already being touted with Death Stranding's PC port. People saying it looks really good at 4K with DLSS enabled cards.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: nudemacusers on July 24, 2020, 12:26:53 AM
Whats a good 144hz wide monitor(is wide worth it?).

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/ultrawide-gaming

Ultra-wide is absolutely worth it for PC, but the jury's still out on whether it ends up being widely-used for Series X.
I’d never expect a lot of support on a console. The expectation will be 16x9 for pretty much all content/ui.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: nudemacusers on July 24, 2020, 12:54:27 AM
DLSS = booty implants on IG models.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: thisismyusername on July 24, 2020, 12:54:49 AM
Whats a good 144hz wide monitor(is wide worth it?).

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/ultrawide-gaming

Ultra-wide is absolutely worth it for PC, but the jury's still out on whether it ends up being widely-used for Series X.
I’d never expect a lot of support on a console. The expectation will be 16x9 for pretty much all content/ui.

It'll be "supported," but it won't be native. Just like 1080p was "supported" but it was never native resolution for games (they were upscaled sub-720p) during the PS360 era. Book it, that's the console norm.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: thisismyusername on July 24, 2020, 12:58:20 AM
I wish I had that 4chan /v/ clip where they timed it.

Lucky for you guys, 4chan archives:

https://streamable.com/kj3m9j
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: tiesto on July 24, 2020, 12:59:38 AM
Over the past few weeks of reveals, the game I'm most interested in by far, is a PS2 hd remake... not really a whole lot for me in the Sony show or the MS show, I think there were like 1 or 2 games I was really feeling.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 24, 2020, 01:14:50 AM
indeed unwelcome
just let people move faster rather than a shitty animation of watching your limbs flail for a marginal acceleration
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: brawndolicious on July 24, 2020, 01:17:44 AM
The good news is that 343 have legitimate technical wizards and the hardware is very capable.

:girlaff

"Technical Wizards."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rYrr-Fybik

:girlaff

This open world shit is exactly the shot in the arm this franchise needed

TBH, those are kind of the worst levels in Halo. But in any case, the multiplayer and PC/engine performance and numerous bugs are what I'm worried about than "I CAN'T FINISH THE FIGHT!!!!!"-Post Halo 3 lore-campaignisms.

Halo 4/5 were really good looking is all I'm saying. They uh....had to learn a bit on the QA side of things though.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: DJ Bedroom on July 24, 2020, 02:25:53 AM
(https://i.redd.it/yblsba806oc51.jpg)
do you accept the boof
spoiler (click to show/hide)
gameplay looks pretty good but hopefully someone turns on dynamic lighting before the next showing cuz holy fuck
[close]
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 24, 2020, 02:42:20 AM
is sprinting some kind of controversy in the halo world lol? tbh the movement of the games i've played (1,2,3, only multiplayer) felt really slow and 'bouncy'.

One of the most overrated series imho

Halo 1 was greay though for the time

I tried 2/3/odst/5 but they all feel meh
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 24, 2020, 02:48:27 AM
I just want th next gears lol
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 24, 2020, 03:33:38 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/hCKPQ6n/Screenshot-20200724-092532-Chrome.jpg)
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: headwalk on July 24, 2020, 06:12:45 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/a92QD2E.jpg)
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Rufus on July 24, 2020, 06:58:24 AM
RTX is another check box feature they're touting for this console that is really just a gimmick for now. Sure, if you reduce complexity everywhere else it looks pretty cool, but I don't want all my games looking like a high res, well lit versions of games from the 90s.
It's sublime for reflections, because the alternatives all suck. Cubemaps are fine at a glance, but work intensive. Screenspace relflections are so distracting I'd rather not have any. Thankfully the console RT seems to be powerful enough for those, since Ratchet and Clanks has RT reflections.

Another thing I hope to never see again are the seams from cascading shadows, but you don't need RT for that, I don't think.



Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: headwalk on July 24, 2020, 06:59:42 AM
i'm more impressed with DLSS, that's proper wizard shit.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Rufus on July 24, 2020, 07:05:15 AM
DLSS = booty implants on IG models.
It's more like make-up or a light photoshop filter. The results with DLSS 2.0 are great. You get more apparent detail than native, free AA and it runs better on top of all this. It's magical.

Only Control, Wolfenstein Youngblood and Death Stranding have it so far, but I want to see it everywhere.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Ghoul on July 24, 2020, 08:13:23 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/hCKPQ6n/Screenshot-20200724-092532-Chrome.jpg)

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/436/423/e7a.jpg)
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Rufus on July 24, 2020, 09:20:27 AM
It seems it kind of has RT reflections. At least very limited ones. Once items are no longer static, they are no longer reflected. Its in the DF video.

Its still much better than any of the other methods you provided, though. Its still really the only Next Gen game we've seen.
Debris from destroyed objects, that is. Every other dynamic element is reflected iirc.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on July 24, 2020, 09:37:35 AM
https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1286653437220999168 (https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1286653437220999168)

"Listen.. we'll crunch this shit, remember Perfect Dark Zero?"

 :picard

Something tells me this won't launch with multiplayer.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Tasty on July 24, 2020, 10:25:52 AM
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/372121005889552384/735914420093321296/1595523976415.png?width=960&height=511)

tfw HALO is a platform now


This shit is in development hell for the past 5 years, everything is horribly outdated and we can't just start over. Honestly it looks worse than The Conduit

:cenk Let's not get crazy.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: nudemacusers on July 24, 2020, 10:31:26 AM
343 :girlaff
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: thisismyusername on July 24, 2020, 10:37:15 AM
343 :girlaff

The MCC collection being bugged as shit even on PC a decade after they launched it. :beli
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 24, 2020, 11:04:16 AM
And no splitscreen on pc
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Tasty on July 24, 2020, 11:04:57 AM
And no splitscreen on pc

Wait really :lol
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 24, 2020, 11:06:02 AM
And no splitscreen on pc

Wait really :lol

Yup which is one of the personal reasons I was looking forward to the pc rereleases
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 24, 2020, 11:13:53 AM
Ew.. who the fuck wants to split screen on anything in 2020?  lol

Get 2 PCs you poor.

I have friends who I see in real life you know

and no munneh for 2pcs
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: headwalk on July 24, 2020, 11:14:12 AM
bad memories of when i stayed with a dude who was giving me a good deal on rent with the silent term that i'd hang out and play halo 3 split screen with him every night on his wheezing pissbox hooked upto a shitty SD TV while my dragster rig sat dormant in the next room.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Don Rumata on July 24, 2020, 11:41:02 AM
In an age of Coronavirus, splitscreen is outright irresponsible, and i applaud their choice to keep PC gamers safe.

Also DLSS (2.0) is the real deal, and native 4K is a waste of resources.  :doge
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Svejk on July 24, 2020, 11:44:07 AM
Split screen is magical though, when you have kids.   :trumps
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Pennywise on July 24, 2020, 12:32:23 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/9iDROdN.jpg)
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: thisismyusername on July 24, 2020, 12:49:58 PM
*Truckload of Salt before this...*

(https://i.imgur.com/l0VH4bA.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybmy2HfNfbs
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: thisismyusername on July 24, 2020, 01:21:51 PM
Yeah, but it's a /v/ post. Could be a LARP for all we know.

(https://i.imgur.com/xN96Old.png)

Anyway, #FireFrankie #FrankieIsASexualPredator
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on July 24, 2020, 01:43:56 PM
I was most surprised Forza 8 was in early development considering Forza 7 shipped in 2017.

It's always the same with MS.
They promise the biggest line-up ever show 2 or 3 decent things and end with: we can't wait to show more at a later date!

Everwoke from Rare also looked like it had been rebooted since last E3 November
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Raist on July 24, 2020, 02:00:10 PM
https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1286653437220999168 (https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1286653437220999168)

"Listen.. we'll crunch this shit, remember Perfect Dark Zero?"

 :picard

Something tells me this won't launch with multiplayer.

Halo 5 was released 5 years ago, they have a couple months left (presumably) and this is "WIP"?

Good luck :lol
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: brawndolicious on July 24, 2020, 02:41:17 PM
Split screen is magical though, when you have kids.   :trumps

Especially when you consider that the first generation of split-screen console gamers are getting old enough to have kids nowadays.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on July 24, 2020, 02:43:46 PM
HALO is like Sonic or Star Wars.

The glory days of HALO are more than a decade behind us and the platform holder is desperately trying to make it relevant again by throwing money at it.
To keep a franchise relevant this long you either need to take good care of it or keep it fresh with new ideas.

I thought yesterday's demo was a joke and Master Chief would find an Xbox Series X and boot up the 'real' HALO Infinite or something lol.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 24, 2020, 03:06:57 PM
how the fuck is 343i such a disaster
MCC fuck-up also somewhat killed the franchise

or is it just MS being shit
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: DJ Bedroom on July 24, 2020, 03:26:11 PM
At this point, 343 misunderstanding halo almost has to be deliberate. The new weapons in the demo are all really bland and uninspired, it's like someone said "man chief looks like a motherfucking tool, we should give him a fuckin Beretta"
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Raist on July 24, 2020, 03:38:42 PM
how the fuck is 343i such a disaster
MCC fuck-up also somewhat killed the franchise

or is it just MS being shit

MS has been running studios / IPs into the ground for years. It's not exactly a surprise that Halo went to shit too.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 24, 2020, 04:19:18 PM
Quote
But while it’s easy to get carried away about the prospect of playing Halo Infinite, it’s worth taking a minute to think about the enormous work put into this playable preview of Halo Infinite.
While this is just a section of the final game, it took a herculean effort to make sure this little corner of our Ringworld was polished and pretty enough for its premiere!
The art, lighting, design, environment, graphics, production and engineering teams involved in carving out and curating this little slice, are nervous and excited to show people a glimpse of what we’re building.

 :larry :yikes
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Let's Cyber on July 24, 2020, 05:07:06 PM
Quote
But while it’s easy to get carried away about the prospect of playing Halo Infinite, it’s worth taking a minute to think about the enormous work put into this playable preview of Halo Infinite.
While this is just a section of the final game, it took a herculean effort to make sure this little corner of our Ringworld was polished and pretty enough for its premiere!
The art, lighting, design, environment, graphics, production and engineering teams involved in carving out and curating this little slice, are nervous and excited to show people a glimpse of what we’re building.
breh is this real?
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Positive Touch on July 24, 2020, 05:23:29 PM
halo infinite coming april 2021
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Himu on July 24, 2020, 05:27:57 PM
New Stalker looks good
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on July 24, 2020, 05:31:36 PM
Quote
In simplistic terms, it means putting a lot of pretty pixels on the screen very quickly. When you see the realistic characters, the beautiful landscape around you, and shafts of light streaming through the fog – those are the things that my team and I partner up with the artists to accomplish.

 :mindblown

Microsoft strategy seems to be: gaslight everybody

https://twitter.com/majornelson/status/1286775398127169536 (https://twitter.com/majornelson/status/1286775398127169536)
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Let's Cyber on July 24, 2020, 05:36:57 PM
https://www.343industries.com/news/articles/employee-spotlight-ani-shastry (https://www.343industries.com/news/articles/employee-spotlight-ani-shastry)
gaiz, vidya r hard. pls understand

Like, creating a vertical slice for preview is notoriously time and resource consuming, but this isn't some indie dev getting with their first shot at e3. I can understand being frank with the effort put in if you're a smaller dev, but you're creating the pillar software for a new console launch. It's a AAA studio owned by fucking Microsoft which has been in the lab for 5 years rolling through god knows how many tens of millions of dollars (hundreds of millions if the rumors are true) for what was once one of the bigger game franchises in the west. Let me play the world's smallest violin for you, 343.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: thisismyusername on July 24, 2020, 05:41:43 PM
how the fuck is 343i such a disaster
MCC fuck-up also somewhat killed the franchise

or is it just MS being shit

MS has been running studios / IPs into the ground for years. It's not exactly a surprise that Halo went to shit too.

But the major reason is that they hired Frankie (who was a community manager) to run the studio.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: thisismyusername on July 24, 2020, 05:46:24 PM
^(https://i.imgur.com/B8vcLIZ.gif)
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: thisismyusername on July 24, 2020, 05:48:09 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/xN96Old.png) (https://onlysp.escapistmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/frankoconnor.jpg)

:thinking

Not content with being a bisexual janitor, (https://www.halopedia.org/Hamish_Beamish) Frankie decides to go all in on being the face of the Brutes: The race that wanted to start the Great Journey/killing themselves no matter what.

Truly an apt description for the Halo showrunner.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: thisismyusername on July 24, 2020, 08:38:15 PM
Yeah DF were not impressed ha ha.

DF:

(https://i.imgur.com/OxR89Yt.jpg)
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: naff on July 24, 2020, 09:29:29 PM
it was interesting when they talked about pixel counting all the in game footage confirming what they showed of most (all?) games was native 4k, then proceeded to talk shit on how stupid native 4k as a target is. respect
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: naff on July 24, 2020, 09:32:11 PM
crossfirex does look fuckin sick.

https://youtu.be/uYYuwAsZl58
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 25, 2020, 12:47:35 AM
Halo was like, a good game, but people who are HALO FANATICS blow my mind, game was never really all that

Imagine actually caring one way or another about Halo in 2020 brehs, you gotta be dumb or Yuropeen
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on July 25, 2020, 12:55:25 AM
Imagine posting on an internet gaming forum in 2020. you gotta be dumb or over 30

spoiler (click to show/hide)
jk
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Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Trent Dole on July 25, 2020, 03:02:44 AM
Well duh, all the kids are on discord, forums are for boomers.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 25, 2020, 04:39:30 AM
discord

 :jeanluc
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 25, 2020, 05:27:59 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qfx9eoB-88

I mean seriously, you can see the problem with 343i in so many ways.

The fucking hideous weapons and enemies, not to mention the overall game design and thinking about Halo
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on July 25, 2020, 06:24:57 AM
crossfirex does look fuckin sick.

https://youtu.be/uYYuwAsZl58
Remedy sure dodged a bullet

GOTY 2019 through word of mouth alone and independence  :whew
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on July 25, 2020, 07:08:11 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qfx9eoB-88

I mean seriously, you can see the problem with 343i in so many ways.

The fucking hideous weapons and enemies, not to mention the overall game design and thinking about Halo
The difference is stark but it also has a lot to do with how video games are made these days.
You either need a very strong creative lead, who is able to protect and guide his vision of the game or you need perhaps even a subpar team that works really well together.
Both are not as common as you may think. Bungie had a great team of some of the best in the industry, which is extremely rare.

Studio leads spend more time communicating and planning the work for the different art, environment sound etc. teams than actually working on the game.
And only at the tail end can they really see how everything comes together. Pulling in a lot of talent also isn't a guarantee for success if the chemistry isn't there.
In fact it can work against you in case there is a competition of sorts.

Ubisoft is one of the few studios which has a very fine tuned process for big productions such as these but their 'template' is showing its age.
Other studios like CD Projekt Red, Nintendo, Kojima Productions, Remedy etc. rely heavily on their strong creative leads or teamwork.
Nintendo basically hands their creative leads such as Sakurai, all control.

Microsoft over the years collected people who can hit production deadlines and salvage projects (like Rod Fergusson) but they don't have very talented creative leads.
Or people in those roles long enough to really create a vision. Sony's set-up works decently too, combining their creative talents with a few tech support groups.
Microsoft is trying to address this problem by either acquiring sub-par teams (Ninja Theory) or strong creatives (Double Fine / The Initiative) but it'll take a while before results.
Now Microsoft has once again called in Rod to do the thing he always does, which is to turn a troubled AAA+ project heading towards a 4/10 into an 8/10 or 9/10 by making the right cuts.

Microsoft is still feeling the pain from gutting their first party teams and infrastructure over a decade ago.
These are the projects in the open that we know about, just imagine the stuff they couldn't salvage over the years.

It also doesn't help that they turned HALO into this corporate thing with brand directors, franchise directors etc., which is a joke considering where the franchise stands at this point.
HALO needs to be a good FPS, first and foremost. All this 'platform' bullshit won't last a year if the player base isn't there.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: BIONIC on July 25, 2020, 07:08:48 AM
streamable.com/gemzh4 (http://streamable.com/gemzh4)
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on July 25, 2020, 07:14:21 AM
Also, imagine that Phil Spencer, Bonnie Ross and a hundred or so middle managers and play testers have seen that asset.
And no one said: "Ok, we'll show HALO at E3 but let's tune up that face a bit or not spawn in that particular enemy"

It really shows where they are with that project, that they didn't see it.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Tasty on July 25, 2020, 08:49:18 AM
Imagine posting on an internet gaming forum in 2020. you gotta be dumb or over 30

spoiler (click to show/hide)
jk
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14 months :stahp
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on July 25, 2020, 10:44:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qfx9eoB-88

I mean seriously, you can see the problem with 343i in so many ways.

The fucking hideous weapons and enemies, not to mention the overall game design and thinking about Halo
The difference is stark but it also has a lot to do with how video games are made these days.
You either need a very strong creative lead, who is able to protect and guide his vision of the game or you need perhaps even a subpar team that works really well together.
Both are not as common as you may think. Bungie had a great team of some of the best in the industry, which is extremely rare.

Studio leads spend more time communicating and planning the work for the different art, environment sound etc. teams than actually working on the game.
And only at the tail end can they really see how everything comes together. Pulling in a lot of talent also isn't a guarantee for success if the chemistry isn't there.
In fact it can work against you in case there is a competition of sorts.

Ubisoft is one of the few studios which has a very fine tuned process for big productions such as these but their 'template' is showing its age.
Other studios like CD Projekt Red, Nintendo, Kojima Productions, Remedy etc. rely heavily on their strong creative leads or teamwork.
Nintendo basically hands their creative leads such as Sakurai, all control.

Microsoft over the years collected people who can hit production deadlines and salvage projects (like Rod Fergusson) but they don't have very talented creative leads.
Or people in those roles long enough to really create a vision. Sony's set-up works decently too, combining their creative talents with a few tech support groups.
Microsoft is trying to address this problem by either acquiring sub-par teams (Ninja Theory) or strong creatives (Double Fine / The Initiative) but it'll take a while before results.
Now Microsoft has once again called in Rod to do the thing he always does, which is to turn a troubled AAA+ project heading towards a 4/10 into an 8/10 or 9/10 by making the right cuts.

Microsoft is still feeling the pain from gutting their first party teams and infrastructure over a decade ago.
These are the projects in the open that we know about, just imagine the stuff they couldn't salvage over the years.

It also doesn't help that they turned HALO into this corporate thing with brand directors, franchise directors etc., which is a joke considering where the franchise stands at this point.
HALO needs to be a good FPS, first and foremost. All this 'platform' bullshit won't last a year if the player base isn't there.

Rod's not there anymore. He left to work on Diablo.

Well they're completely fucked now  :doge
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Tasty on July 25, 2020, 10:52:01 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caVFyID9PTY

spoiler (click to show/hide)
They admitted they unintentionally/subconsciously stole a joke from Mr. Show.
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Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: headwalk on July 25, 2020, 02:04:25 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/OxR89Yt.jpg)

honestly i'd feel bad but ultimately justified in putting this poor cunt out of his misery.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: bork on July 25, 2020, 02:33:30 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdurdlVUwAAPyqW?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 25, 2020, 03:00:49 PM
Halo was like, a good game, but people who are HALO FANATICS blow my mind, game was never really all that

Imagine actually caring one way or another about Halo in 2020 brehs, you gotta be dumb or Yuropeen

Wrong Europeans dont like Halo

Its an american franchise
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Svejk on July 25, 2020, 03:58:39 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdurdlVUwAAPyqW?format=jpg&name=large)
Someone needs to make a Rustled Jimmies mash-up with that face.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on July 25, 2020, 06:22:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnQd6W9BxLg

 :doge

To sum up:
- The lighting model sucks and they recorded the entire demo area in shadow
- It misses visual effects and tricks seen in Far Cry 3
- Materials are simple plastics and metal and rather uninspiring
- LOD's and pop-in shows the game doesn't scale well and it clearly targets the Xbone
- Effects were probably dialed down so it could run at 4k/60fps, would be better to target a lower res and more effects
- Effects such as shields and explosions were done better in Reach
- Ray tracing would be a solution
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Trent Dole on July 25, 2020, 06:48:00 PM
Halo was never good. :punch
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Tasty on July 26, 2020, 10:47:06 AM
It's the "open world hit" but I'm hearing it might not even be fully open world?
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: brawndolicious on July 26, 2020, 11:37:16 AM
One of the DF guys mentioned that he knows for a fact that the XSX does not do 720P 3X3 VRS (nor does any PC GPU) so he's not sure what's going on in that screen.

Also I think this game is going to be traditionally open world as they mentioned you can go everywhere you can see. They didn't clarify if there's a hub area or what the structure or the game is going to be.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on July 26, 2020, 11:37:21 AM
Quote
We're bringing the highest fidelity experience that we've ever created. We're able to do more than 10 times the processing power per pixel that we were able to do in Halo 5, which just allows us to create this experience that's unlike anything that we've had in Halo before. In Halo Infinite we've really harnessed a lot of advanced rendering techniques, but also the immense power of the Xbox Series X.

Quote
We also upgraded our audio engine to create a new acoustic system and leverage a lot of extra processing power and streaming power with the Xbox Series X to be able to really surround the player in a much more realistic audio experience.

Is this a joke. This is some grade-A secret sauce blast processing bullshit  :doge
Which worked in 2001 but not with channels like Digital Foundry in 2020, so why even try.  :thinking

When Rare did Perfect Dark Zero, at least they were honest about development difficulties and being surprised their game passed certification before launch.

It's the "open world hit" but I'm hearing it might not even be fully open world?

It seems that during the press showings of the same demo that was shown earlier, multiple journalists asked if the world was open and the devs kept dodging the question. So yeah, I'm guessing its not.
Looking at the map screen,
(https://i.redd.it/vsxzi888onc51.jpg)

unless there is a way to cross those chasms I don't see how you can move past them.
The solution looks similar to 'The Great Plateau' intro area in BOTW, except in Zelda, it was just that intro chunk and not the entire map.
I'm getting more a Metroid Prime feeling, where there is various connected areas that together form 1 map but there are specific ways to cross from one area into the next using a specific point of entry.
I think that's what that big elevator was for we saw in the demo. Technically that would make it open world.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Tasty on July 26, 2020, 12:37:47 PM
Quote
Is this a joke. This is some grade-A secret sauce blast processing bullshit  :doge

Remember "power of the cloud"? Why does MS do this every gen :doge
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Tasty on July 26, 2020, 12:41:02 PM
Apparently "the cloud" does make AI and physics better in some games like Halo 5 and Crackdown, but as an opt-in Xbone-exclusive-feature, it's mostly completely unused outside the bigger first-party games.

Still, MS actually did kinda deliver on it, more than I expected before I did some research just now. Lowered expectations? :P
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Trent Dole on July 26, 2020, 01:49:17 PM
Launch material never looks the best a console can produce anyway. It's always stuff that looks a better than what's already here but often not by all that much. :yeshrug
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on July 26, 2020, 02:02:02 PM
Apparently "the cloud" does make AI and physics better in some games like Halo 5 and Crackdown, but as an opt-in Xbone-exclusive-feature, it's mostly completely unused outside the bigger first-party games.

Still, MS actually did kinda deliver on it, more than I expected before I did some research just now. Lowered expectations? :P

It also has something to do with how the generation progressed.

Early on everyone bet on CPU heavy physics, AI's and simulations. Something the AMD Jaguar was ill equipped to deliver as shown by 1st gen titles such as Assassins Creed Unity and Shadow of Mordor so using cloud processing to make up for the lack of a better CPU made sense. In fact, the first Destiny pretty much 'tapped out' the Xbox One. Which was sort of a shock about 1 year into its life cycle. However as the generation went on AI and other CPU heavy stuff is not what developers focused on.
In fact most of the CPU focused stuff that seemed impressive like Mass Effect Andromeda's procedural planet systems and Crackdown's destruction was scrapped.

The focus of third parties was less on AI and physics improvements and more focused on scale, mainly through open world games and scalability by having games run on all platforms, sometimes even on mobile with the same assets.
First party for Microsoft became about the 'indie' titles like Ori and Cuphead and Sony circumvented the lack of better CPU's by using scripted scenario's as they always had. By the time the X and Pro came along the focus had shifted towards performance.
The goal being to get the most FPS with the highest visual fidelity and not to have destructible environments or complex AI. Noticeable in how Gears of War 2 on Xbox 360 has more physics simulations and destruction than Gears 5 does.

Only at the tail end of the generation, did developers again tip their toes in more advanced physics with games like CONTROL and to a lesser extend Anthem. Which ended with the expected poor results in terms of performance , even on the X and Pro. The Jaguar is simply not up to the task. If anything the Zen 2 chips in the PS5 and Xbox Series S/X will finally allow developers to really improve physics, simulations and AI. But not if a game has to run on Xbox One also.
So no moving branches or interactive grass(features found in Crysis on Switch) in Halo Infinite because it was conceived as a current gen game with CPU limitations in mind.
The AI also looks like your basic 'spawn in waves within a radius and attack the player' type.

As it stands Halo Infinite is an aged current gen game with a new coat of paint. Which is fine if they would've been honest about what the product is. It doesn't look any worse than a lot of other current gen games. The character models except for that hilariously poor close-up look about on-par with EA's latest Star Wars game. But they're currently bullshitting everyone about what this game actually is which is why the backlash to what they showed is quite severe.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Don Rumata on July 26, 2020, 02:14:11 PM
By that logic, Halo3 was basically open world, since it had massive areas connected by corridor sections?

If this one doesn't have massive fields like in the original tease, it'll be a big disappointment in that sense.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Tasty on July 26, 2020, 02:22:23 PM
Apparently "the cloud" does make AI and physics better in some games like Halo 5 and Crackdown, but as an opt-in Xbone-exclusive-feature, it's mostly completely unused outside the bigger first-party games.

Still, MS actually did kinda deliver on it, more than I expected before I did some research just now. Lowered expectations? :P

It also has something to do with how the generation progressed.

Early on everyone bet on CPU heavy physics, AI's and simulations. Something the AMD Jaguar was ill equipped to deliver as shown by 1st gen titles such as Assassins Creed Unity and Shadow of Mordor so using cloud processing to make up for the lack of a better CPU made sense. In fact, the first Destiny pretty much 'tapped out' the Xbox One. Which was sort of a shock about 1 year into its life cycle. However as the generation went on AI and other CPU heavy stuff is not what developers focused on.
In fact most of the CPU focused stuff that seemed impressive like Mass Effect Andromeda's procedural planet systems and Crackdown's destruction was scrapped.

The focus of third parties was less on AI and physics improvements and more focused on scale, mainly through open world games and scalability by having games run on all platforms, sometimes even on mobile with the same assets.
First party for Microsoft became about the 'indie' titles like Ori and Cuphead and Sony circumvented the lack of better CPU's by using scripted scenario's as they always had. By the time the X and Pro came along the focus had shifted towards performance.
The goal being to get the most FPS with the highest visual fidelity and not to have destructible environments or complex AI. Noticeable in how Gears of War 2 on Xbox 360 has more physics simulations and destruction than Gears 5 does.

Only at the tail end of the generation, did developers again tip their toes in more advanced physics with games like CONTROL and to a lesser extend Anthem. Which ended with the expected poor results in terms of performance , even on the X and Pro. The Jaguar is simply not up to the task. If anything the Zen 2 chips in the PS5 and Xbox Series S/X will finally allow developers to really improve physics, simulations and AI. But not if a game has to run on Xbox One also.
So no moving branches or interactive grass(features found in Crysis on Switch) in Halo Infinite because it was conceived as a current gen game with CPU limitations in mind.
The AI also looks like your basic 'spawn in waves within a radius and attack the player' type.

As it stands Halo Infinite is an aged current gen game with a new coat of paint. Which is fine if they would've been honest about what the product is. It doesn't look any worse than a lot of other current gen games. The character models except for that hilariously poor close-up look about on-par with EA's latest Star Wars game. But they're currently bullshitting everyone about what this game actually is which is why the backlash to what they showed is quite severe.

Wonder if next-next-gen systems will take a cue from Google's book and have a dedicated TPU for AI/ML stuff.

Even mighty Google realized that you can't scale that stuff if you always need an internet connection for it to work, networks are too finicky. So go local. Federated learning on its own is a big advancement that gets you the benefits of cloud processing but locally and without needing a connection. :idont
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Raist on July 26, 2020, 02:31:18 PM
Apparently "the cloud" does make AI and physics better in some games like Halo 5 and Crackdown, but as an opt-in Xbone-exclusive-feature, it's mostly completely unused outside the bigger first-party games.

Still, MS actually did kinda deliver on it, more than I expected before I did some research just now. Lowered expectations? :P

Crackdown's physics was utter garbage and nothing like what they showed in early demos :lol
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on July 26, 2020, 05:32:15 PM
By that logic, Halo3 was basically open world, since it had massive areas connected by corridor sections?

If this one doesn't have massive fields like in the original tease, it'll be a big disappointment in that sense.
It'll have a massive field with an invisible fence around it.  :teehee

I've been thinking about a similar project and I would say Twilight Princess. When announced it was LOTR meets Zelda, holy shit. How could this be a GameCube game? Reggie my man.
Then when it finally came out on the Wii it was a damn good sequel to OOT but all the hype had vaporized and the game didn't have many new groundbreaking features.

Whenever I see interviews about this game, it seems like they really went chasing after that feel and aesthetic of the original HALO. Much like how Aonuma was desperate to make a better OOT.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on July 26, 2020, 05:39:26 PM
Maybe open world is going to suck for Halo. I mean the WartHog is always exciting to use because you're not always in big free form levels that have it. So you use it because it's neat, hell in the older ones you'd use it till you couldn't. Often trying to cheese it into the levels. 

Using it to drive to the 3rd turret target for the 6th mission of it is'nt going to be that exciting.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: naff on July 26, 2020, 05:49:14 PM
if it's just an open world waypoint hunt like far cry, yeah that would suck. im assuming for now it's still an arena shooter. idk why they're being coy about it if it is though, seems that would be massively preferable to people who actually like Halo. i realise there's a bit of a disconnect between 1-3 and post Reach, but they're still my favourite arena shooters (not that there's much competition).
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: naff on July 26, 2020, 06:33:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnQd6W9BxLg

really nice partial explanation of why models looked so poop in shadow. also agree that if people were shown the same game with different settings at 60fps; 1 with reduced internal resolution using advanced lighting techniques, the other native 4k using standard global illumination the former would nearly always be chosen.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on July 26, 2020, 07:10:43 PM
Halo was like, a good game, but people who are HALO FANATICS blow my mind, game was never really all that

Imagine actually caring one way or another about Halo in 2020 brehs, you gotta be dumb or Yuropeen

Halo was a good game in an era where the last “good” console FPS was Goldeneye for N64. Halo has been less and less relevant the more options consoles have for FPS game.

In 2020, this is just fucking a decade+ old corpse. Halo worked best as a stand-alone title.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on July 26, 2020, 07:18:07 PM
The Halo games in the 360 era were great too.
HALO 3, Halo Reach and ODST each did their own unique thing.

HALO 4 was a snore fest that damn near killed the franchise and then HALO 5 was a bit better but quite short and unimaginative.
Visually HALO 5 looks great though, nothing like this ugly mess.  :doge
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: naff on July 26, 2020, 07:51:00 PM
lol, imo there's a hell of a lot of room for a large map arena shooter like halo today. it's the middleground in a nearly dead style of multiplayer fps somewhere between battlefield style big map arena's, quake arena's and battle royales. i like something less punishing than pubg, slower than titanfall and more popular than quake though. i think there are low key a lot of millenials in a similar boat to me that would stlll like a nu halo that delivers on multi. whether 343 will capitalise on this and make something worth playing is another thing.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Transhuman on July 27, 2020, 01:16:45 AM
Forge too. Being able to make your own maps and gametypes added to the replayability.

The fact that it's on steam too means people will give it a chance, all it has to do is not be terrible.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Don Rumata on July 27, 2020, 01:25:52 AM
Maybe open world is going to suck for Halo. I mean the WartHog is always exciting to use because you're not always in big free form levels that have it. So you use it because it's neat, hell in the older ones you'd use it till you couldn't. Often trying to cheese it into the levels. 

Using it to drive to the 3rd turret target for the 6th mission of it is'nt going to be that exciting.
Being open world doesn't negate level design.  :yeshrug
Death Stranding challenges your mobility with a map design that almost looks random (and therefore natural) while being deliberate.

And hell, you drive around, but then you can get to your classic Halo structure, and take an elevator down into corridor land.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 27, 2020, 01:50:07 AM
Halo 3 was super fun. Custom games + forge made for lots of hours enjoyed. Had its own niche apart from cowaduty and the endless ADS down the terrorists.
Lost sight of where they were supposed to go and butchered an easy slam dunk (MCC)
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 27, 2020, 04:53:28 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/Scd034M.jpg)

How does one post a pic from imgur wtf
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Rufus on July 27, 2020, 04:55:19 AM
The sharing option on Imgur provides a BBCode. You can also use your browser's context menu to get the actual URL.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 27, 2020, 05:40:34 AM
The sharing option on Imgur provides a BBCode. You can also use your browser's context menu to get the actual URL.

Thx I was on mobile and couldnt figure it out
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Tasty on July 27, 2020, 08:38:03 AM
The mobile site and app suck. I kick Chrome into desktop mode when I need to upload anything.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 27, 2020, 11:10:40 AM
I wish Bloober Team made a single game I liked, but I thought all of em were complete trash. Maybe this time though!!??
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Rufus on July 27, 2020, 11:19:09 AM
Oh, didn't realize it was them. Hm, well, it will look the part at least.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: demi on July 27, 2020, 11:55:36 AM
Both Layers and Blair Witch were pretty flat, this one seems like it has more effort put into it

Thank MS for Game Pass, no way I would buy it : )
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Tasty on July 27, 2020, 12:04:01 PM
I wish Bloober Team made a single game I liked, but I thought all of em were complete trash. Maybe this time though!!??

What can you expect from ex-Sadness (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadness_(video_game)) devs? :idont
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: paprikastaude on July 27, 2020, 12:48:58 PM
iirc they got Yamaoka. But makers of shitty walking simulators ain't just gonna churn out proper survival horror  :engel If a miracle happens, it could be on the level of old B-tier stuff like Clocktower 3. Which would be fine actually.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: demi on July 27, 2020, 02:00:42 PM
https://old.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/hyau4f/xbox_game_pass_value_is_unreal/

:whew
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: bork on July 27, 2020, 02:10:58 PM
https://twitter.com/Dominos_UK/status/1287751610865680386

:kermit
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Rufus on July 27, 2020, 03:00:20 PM
Yeah, and I believe they'll increase the price once the Series X releases. 5$/month is too low for all that.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: demi on July 27, 2020, 03:07:00 PM
https://old.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/hyau4f/xbox_game_pass_value_is_unreal/

:whew

All of those games are a real ways away.

And all coming to GamePass Day 1 for me to play, on top of the existing library :whew
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on July 27, 2020, 07:30:42 PM
https://twitter.com/hookscourt/status/1286842070808715264 (https://twitter.com/hookscourt/status/1286842070808715264)

 :kermit

Thanks for clearing that up on your personal account Head of Design at 343.
Surely we're almost convinced you guys are indie.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Don Rumata on July 27, 2020, 08:53:07 PM
https://old.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/hyau4f/xbox_game_pass_value_is_unreal/

:whew

All of those games are a real ways away.

And all coming to GamePass Day 1 for me to play, on top of the existing library :whew
Will sit in my library right next to Crackdown 3, Project Spark, Scalebound and Phantom Dust!  :doge

Point being, last time MS had a slew of logos and CGIs that were supposed to turn into games in the following 3 years, things didn't turn out super great.
Yeah these are more concrete studios, let's just hope they don't try to change their strategy again.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: demi on July 27, 2020, 08:57:44 PM
They don't come out, that's one less game for me to play. Good thing GamePass has a library for me to browse :whew
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Tasty on July 27, 2020, 09:18:25 PM
https://twitter.com/Dominos_UK/status/1287751610865680386

:kermit

This is so fucking dumb but also great :lol
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Tasty on July 27, 2020, 09:21:05 PM
https://twitter.com/Dominos_UK/status/1287751610865680386

:kermit

https://twitter.com/Colteastwood/status/1287780336999362561
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Transhuman on July 27, 2020, 10:54:24 PM
Brave of them to throw insults considering what actual Dominos pizzas looks like..
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 28, 2020, 03:06:36 AM
Domino's in Denmark was completely shut down by the food standards department or whatever after gross violations. Been closed for 2 years like.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Don Rumata on July 28, 2020, 03:13:15 AM
Brave of them to throw insults considering what actual Dominos pizzas looks like..
That's why to them, pixelation is a next gen feature.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: thisismyusername on July 28, 2020, 12:37:07 PM
(jk I <3 you)

I don't and you're right.

Also the Pacific Pan pizza from Dominios bangs. I will not be told different because you're wrong.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Lonewulfeus on July 28, 2020, 12:47:57 PM
Domino’s pizza is 100% trash, that said their sandwiches aren’t terrible
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: bork on July 28, 2020, 01:12:58 PM
https://twitter.com/RSeriesxbox/status/1288104739851313154

The console wars are over
:bolo
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Svejk on July 28, 2020, 01:19:22 PM
https://twitter.com/RSeriesxbox/status/1288104739851313154

The console wars are over
:bolo
(https://www.abload.de/img/paradise_cernynijt1.gif)
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 28, 2020, 02:31:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DnOnIjonL0
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 28, 2020, 02:34:22 PM
how did whoever made that vid get their hands on a copy of halo infinite already :titus
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Raist on July 28, 2020, 03:01:13 PM
https://twitter.com/RSeriesxbox/status/1288104739851313154

The console wars are over
:bolo


"We do most of our development on PC"

Haha good one GabeN
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on July 28, 2020, 03:18:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2p-PUQurxU
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 28, 2020, 04:01:34 PM
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/876/032/884.png)

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/876/026/b7a)
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Don Rumata on July 28, 2020, 04:34:13 PM
https://twitter.com/RSeriesxbox/status/1288104739851313154

The console wars are over
:bolo


"We do most of our development on PC"

Haha good one GabeN
They released the GOTY this very year, on PC.  8)
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: G The Resurrected on July 28, 2020, 07:12:02 PM
Gabe translation: I have one. Thanks Phil.

With Gamestop being in the place it is right now and MS stores done for there aren't many places to trade up to a series X. I'll jump if the price is right and there is availability.

Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: naff on July 28, 2020, 10:27:15 PM
didn't know gaben was hiding out here. wonder where his bunker is
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: demi on July 28, 2020, 11:17:10 PM
McDonalds
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: thisismyusername on July 29, 2020, 01:07:40 AM
McDonalds

Actually, Gay-Ben has been losing weight. So... :doge
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: mormapope on July 29, 2020, 01:11:31 AM
McDonalds

Actually, Gay-Ben has been losing weight. So... :doge

He got AIDS at the McDonald's.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: demi on July 29, 2020, 01:13:25 AM
So he's been eating the salads, at McDonalds, good for him
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: pilonv1 on July 29, 2020, 06:43:45 AM
didn't know gaben was hiding out here. wonder where his bunker is

South Island, Gaben strikes me as a Speights guy
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Tasty on July 29, 2020, 09:20:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFv70yfsWm8

spoiler (click to show/hide)
"They will never change it, because if they do, X-Box will die."

Uhhh :dead
[close]
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Tasty on July 30, 2020, 09:33:25 PM
Ever the classic, "it's an old build!"
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: nudemacusers on July 31, 2020, 03:12:13 AM
several weeks = 6 months to a year old  8)

to be honest the only thing that looked 'bad' to me was the pop-in. who decided to let that happen  :lol :yuck
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: benjipwns on July 31, 2020, 04:27:45 AM
Don't worry, "you'll be able to see all the way to the horizon with no pop-in or loading time!" on the PS2 Xbox Xbox 360 Xbox One with Cloud Xbox Series X.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: nudemacusers on July 31, 2020, 05:00:16 AM
maybe pop-in has a forerunner lore component  :brain
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on July 31, 2020, 02:27:48 PM
I just read that there won't be a Magnum or Shotgun at launch  :doge
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on July 31, 2020, 03:55:52 PM
What the fuck?
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 31, 2020, 06:11:31 PM
there are screens where he is literally carrying a thick-as-fuck pistol
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 31, 2020, 06:17:59 PM
(https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/pOZWJspPZCp_YYwqqMAQyQ--~B/aD0xNDI0O3c9MjUzNDtzbT0xO2FwcGlkPXl0YWNoeW9u/https://s.yimg.com/hd/cp-video-transcode/prod/2020-07/23/5f19bc55fd04d4312d058488/5f19bc55fd04d4312d058489_o_U_v2.jpg)
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Don Rumata on July 31, 2020, 06:28:46 PM
In the same demo he also has some kind of revolver.
Nintex going full Biden.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: brawndolicious on July 31, 2020, 10:22:12 PM
Apparently this game will have free online play. Strongly suggests MS is moving to a model of free online play for all games. I'm guessing the only sub that they'd be selling is game pass which includes both games and xcloud....this could be awesome.

Also, it's going to apparently have a 120 fps option on XSX. I don't know if they mentioned resolution I'm guessing the XSX version can either do 4K/60 or 1440P/120.

In the same demo he also has some kind of revolver.
Nintex going full Biden.

Isn't that the Brute shotty/pistol? But it seems to shoot slugs now instead of buckshot so hopefully it hits like a maf'k.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 01, 2020, 05:29:11 AM
No shottys confirmed :tocry
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on August 01, 2020, 05:50:26 AM
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/halo-infinite-dev-talks-graphics-loot-boxes-and-wh/1100-6480387/ (https://www.gamespot.com/articles/halo-infinite-dev-talks-graphics-loot-boxes-and-wh/1100-6480387/)
Quote
Also in the blog post, 343 spoke about the brand-new MK50 "Sidekick" and CQS45 "Bulldog" weapons. The Sidekick is the new pistol that is "lightning fast to draw and fire," and most closely resembles the Magnum from Halo 2, 343 said. The Bulldog, meanwhile, is a pump-action shotgun that has less damage as a tradeoff for a faster rate of fire. 343 also confirmed that the classic Magnum and the Tactical Shotgun from earlier Halo games won't appear in Halo Infinite.
More weapons will come to Halo Infinite over time, the developer added.

It seems like they talked about the classic shotguns and magnums. Why can't I trust random headlines on the internet anymore?
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Don Rumata on August 02, 2020, 08:01:40 PM
No shottys confirmed :tocry
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/halo-infinite-dev-talks-graphics-loot-boxes-and-wh/1100-6480387/ (https://www.gamespot.com/articles/halo-infinite-dev-talks-graphics-loot-boxes-and-wh/1100-6480387/)

Quote
Also in the blog post, 343 spoke about the brand-new MK50 "Sidekick" and CQS45 "Bulldog" weapons. The Sidekick is the new pistol that is "lightning fast to draw and fire," and most closely resembles the Magnum from Halo 2, 343 said. The Bulldog, meanwhile, is a pump-action shotgun that has less damage as a tradeoff for a faster rate of fire. 343 also confirmed that the classic Magnum and the Tactical Shotgun from earlier Halo games won't appear in Halo Infinite.
More weapons will come to Halo Infinite over time, the developer added.

It seems like they talked about the classic shotguns and magnums. Why can't I trust random headlines on the internet anymore?
Guys, have you watched the demo or not?  :doge

https://youtu.be/HZtc5-syeAk?t=373
(6:13 if time stamps doesn't work).
It's got an automatic pistol, it's got a shotgun, and the Brute pistol you could interpret as a revolver, since it's doesn't have a spread.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 02, 2020, 08:38:21 PM
Why are you people engaging with nintex do you really hate yourselves that much
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Don Rumata on August 02, 2020, 08:57:42 PM
Why are you people engaging with nintex do you really hate yourselves that much
(https://i.imgur.com/u9dTQsn.png)
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 03, 2020, 10:42:11 AM
of course i've not watched more than a minute or two of it, i was just fucking around :yeshrug :rash
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on August 09, 2020, 07:58:34 PM
https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/9/21361157/microsoft-xbox-series-s-console-leak-controller-packaging (https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/9/21361157/microsoft-xbox-series-s-console-leak-controller-packaging)

Controllers are already out there.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on August 10, 2020, 01:09:32 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfEhonPXYAE5tqH?format=png)

Xbox 20/20 cancelled
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Trent Dole on August 10, 2020, 02:08:33 PM
'Xbox is not running for president or releasing this year.'
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: benjipwns on August 10, 2020, 03:10:55 PM
They don't want to delay the manufacturing and then sit on supply. At least not without Sony's price out there I don't think.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Lonewulfeus on August 10, 2020, 03:43:36 PM
How’s that any different than what we’ve seen from Sony so far this year?
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Don Rumata on August 10, 2020, 03:59:07 PM
They don't want to delay the manufacturing and then sit on supply. At least not without Sony's price out there I don't think.

I suppose, but man. My mantra is becoming "Get Rid of Aaron Greenberg". The dude is a disaster. And they should probably dump Spencer too.

I don't think I've seen a console manufacturer kill their momentum as consistently as they have. Tracing it back to that DF reveal video where they looked at the box itself, to now, months away from launch and all we have is a Craig meme and constant

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/c6ffb14c59d7066294df27307d5d5d07/tumblr_ne31qbCFjx1tfbtrwo1_400.gif)
I don't think MS is as interested as Sony to sell the box itself, so they're probably not super worried.
They want to establish an ecosystem with Gamepass/XboxLive/Windows/xCloud that will by far outlive the console itself.
I mean consoles as a concept are going away anyhow, it's not a stupid move, and in their position, there was simply no realistic way to compete with Sony at that game.
In this trajectory, i don't think XboxSeriesX being a mega hit is all that crucial, as long as people sign up for their services with whatever device.
EDIT: That is not to say they don't care at all about selling the console, ofc. but that their strategy isn't centered around the box itself, like Sony's is.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Lonewulfeus on August 10, 2020, 03:59:26 PM
Neither box has a date or price, no one outside of enthusiasts are paying an ounce of attention to what either Sony or Microsoft are doing yet.  If the same lack of information is present when they’ve revealed the date and price then maybe I’d see the point.  As it stands I don’t really see the big deal between running on actual hardware or running on dev kits, why does that matter so much that Greenberg and Spencer should lose their jobs?  You sound kinda console warrior nuts tbh.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on August 10, 2020, 04:03:49 PM
They don't want to delay the manufacturing and then sit on supply. At least not without Sony's price out there I don't think.

I suppose, but man. My mantra is becoming "Get Rid of Aaron Greenberg". The dude is a disaster. And they should probably dump Spencer too.

I don't think I've seen a console manufacturer kill their momentum as consistently as they have. Tracing it back to that DF reveal video where they looked at the box itself, to now, months away from launch and all we have is a Craig meme and constant

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/c6ffb14c59d7066294df27307d5d5d07/tumblr_ne31qbCFjx1tfbtrwo1_400.gif)
They know the first million or so will be bought by the hardcore fans that want to play the best version of Assassin's Creed, COD 2020 or Cyberpunk 2077 anyway.
What is going on and what none of the publishers want to admit is that 'real 'next-gen games won't be available until Unreal Engine 5 for most publishers. And Unreal Engine 5 won't be ready until late 2021 with the actual games shipping 2022 (so that's when Hellblade drops). Of course it cannot be ruled out that certain games will be pushed out the door for holiday 2021 if things are really dire.

In the meantime it's either asset flips, upscales or added ray tracing. Because publishers aren't going to make their own engines in between this 'gap' of UE upgrades. Unless like Capcom, you have your own engine that you prefer over Unreal Engine. But Nintex where does that leave EA? Well they're further behind than Epic upgrading their tech. The timing of this launch also couldn't be worse. They could've either picked 2019, so you would have cross gen ports of a number of big late-gen releases or late 2021 when UE5 is right around the corner. This is akin to the slot Nintendo picked for the Wii U. Basically right in the middle of a generational transition, so you won't get many current gen games (there aren't many) and no next gen games either (those aren't ready yet).

Sony and Microsoft will position these machines as 'premium products'. (especially Sony) as they continue to support the PS4 as the cheaper option. Now Microsoft is sort of all over the place but wants to prevent 5 different Xbox's sitting on shelves will similar names. So they're cutting down their portfolio to the Xbox One S, Xbox Series S and Xbox Series X. Dropping the Xbox One D and Xbox One X. They know the Xbox Series X will be more expensive than the PS5, so $650+ easily and they want to undercut that with a $499 or perhaps $399 Xbox Series S. I think all their confusing messaging and a less than stellar showing has given Sony a stronger hand. Because Microsoft for some insane reason has decided not to focus much on their strengths (backwards compatibility and 3rd party support) but instead on their weakness (1st party software). Because of long term partnerships the likes of Square Enix and Capcom are willing to give Sony the edge in the next-gen marketing department despite knowing that nearly all their games will be multi platform.

I think these machines will sell because console gamers want to play Cyberpunk and if the Xbox One X and PS4 Pro versions aren't up to snuff lots will invest in new hardware.
If everything released this year runs pretty decent on PS4 Pro and Xbox One X though, it'll be a tough ride. But I think Sony will win in the opening salvo with a bunch of better looking ray-traced games, less confusion and an overall better focus and positioning of their new product. I'm getting quite certain actually that Xbox Series X won't even be released in Europe and Japan this year but in the US only like the Xbox One.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Lonewulfeus on August 10, 2020, 04:23:54 PM
It’s too soon to say what’s gonna happen this gen when there isn’t even pricing for either machine, the cheaper box has been the better seller each of the last few gens.  It’s way too soon to be calling for peoples heads when we have no idea how it’s all gonna shake out.  The way you guys make it seem this gen is over and decided and we’ve seen nothing but trailers, controller designs and the box shape.  Just chill out it’s not so serious :heh
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on August 10, 2020, 04:24:40 PM
On top of everything Microsoft's secrecy about the price and playing cat and mouse with Sony is utterly useless.
Sony knows Microsoft cannot introduce their cheaper console unless they announce the price of the PS5 first.

But Sony likely won't announce their price first leaving Microsoft with the problem of not being able to pitch their Series S unless they announce the Series X is very expensive first.  :lol

Just look at this hot mess and compare

October 2019 - PS5 announced / Early hardware specs
CES 2020 - Logo revealed
March 18 - Full specs announced
April - New controller
June 11th -  Console reveal, games reveal (1st + 3rd party 'launch window' titles and teasers)
Games claimed to be running on actual hardware.

E3 2019 - Project Scarlett Announced / Early hardware specs
VGA 2019 - Xbox Series X reveal / Various specs released / Hellblade 2 announced
February 2020 - Various specs released
May 2020 - Full specs / features announcements in blog format / Xbox 20/20 announced / Indie showcase
June - Summary of specs / bunch of branding for 'Smart Delivery' and 'Optimized'
July 23 -  Xbox Games Showcase (starring Craig)
August - Xbox 20/20 cancelled / 343i promises to improve the graphics, confirms multiplayer for launch / Optimized branding removed from pre-order boxarts
Games running on 'comparable' PC-spec

Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: brawndolicious on August 10, 2020, 06:28:17 PM
The only thing that matters is price. Among the 4K consoles, they're way too close in tech specs to affect anything. Crosspost but looking at the Xbox One X vs Xbox One S as an example:

spoiler (click to show/hide)
  • 4X difference in GPU power
  • More/faster RAM
  • Same CPU
  • Same HDD
  • different casing/cooling/power supply

One was $300, the other was $500. Unless the manufacturing process for GPU/RAM chips has changed significantly in the last five years, I would expect a ~$200 price difference again. Add on the rumored BOM cost of the XSX and PS5 being around $500, then it's reasonable that the 4K consoles will retail for around $500 and the XSS will be around $300.

Also, I would expect the PS5DE to be about the same price as the regular PS5 just like what happened to the Xbox One SAD. Even if it costs $50 less to produce, retailers will mark up digital consoles more because they won't make any future sales on software. Actually, a lot of the time the regular Xbox One S was cheaper than the digital version because of that. Maybe they'll pack in the new Spider-Man game as a download code since it should be something most people are willing to play.
[close]

I'd argue that the launch line up and game pass is far more appealing on the xbox than what Sony is offering but the big elephant in the room is that 6-12 months from now, we'll be in the middle of a huge recession and people will definitely be value shopping. The marketing and corporate communications type stuff doesn't make an impression on anyone outside of the hardcore while the idea of financing an XSS with game pass ultimate for 24 months at $25/month would definitely sell well.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Don Rumata on August 10, 2020, 06:30:27 PM

They know they can't outsell Sony. They tried to for 3 generations now and failed miserably. So I get why they'd want another approach and say "Oh actually Google" is our real competition.

Cool, GamePass is awesome. But for how long will it be? If we just keep getting Indie Games, months old third party games and shit tier first party stuff, that may get old very quick. That's also assuming Sony won't have their own service. And if that happens, what does MS have?
Sony DOES have their own service, it's Playstation Now, but it's kind of shit.
The problem is, Sony isn't magical, they spent the whole of PS3's life time transitioning from 3rd party exclusives (which essentially made PS1 and 2's success) to 1st party ones, building some arguably incredibly solid teams like Santa Monica, Naughty Dog, etc.
It's not like MS can't also build a 1st party roster as good, but that shit takes time, so if they started now (acquiring all those decent to good studios) it'll take them another 10 years minimum to get them to that level (especially since now you need 5+ years to do a single AAA game).
So by contrast if they spend this whole generation building their "Netflix for games", and then Sony decides to jump in late in the game, they could have the same situation reversed.  :yeshrug
Point is, you don't just flip a switch and have a whole infrastructure of services, especially since, and correct me if i'm wrong here, but their massive Azure thing is a big part of it?

I don't know, i'm just thinking out loud here, but i do see the appeal of the "game console" going away more and more, even for hardcore gamers.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on August 10, 2020, 07:56:54 PM
The only thing that matters is price. Among the 4K consoles, they're way too close in tech specs to affect anything. Crosspost but looking at the Xbox One X vs Xbox One S as an example:

spoiler (click to show/hide)
  • 4X difference in GPU power
  • More/faster RAM
  • Same CPU
  • Same HDD
  • different casing/cooling/power supply

One was $300, the other was $500. Unless the manufacturing process for GPU/RAM chips has changed significantly in the last five years, I would expect a ~$200 price difference again. Add on the rumored BOM cost of the XSX and PS5 being around $500, then it's reasonable that the 4K consoles will retail for around $500 and the XSS will be around $300.

Also, I would expect the PS5DE to be about the same price as the regular PS5 just like what happened to the Xbox One SAD. Even if it costs $50 less to produce, retailers will mark up digital consoles more because they won't make any future sales on software. Actually, a lot of the time the regular Xbox One S was cheaper than the digital version because of that. Maybe they'll pack in the new Spider-Man game as a download code since it should be something most people are willing to play.
[close]

I'd argue that the launch line up and game pass is far more appealing on the xbox than what Sony is offering but the big elephant in the room is that 6-12 months from now, we'll be in the middle of a huge recession and people will definitely be value shopping. The marketing and corporate communications type stuff doesn't make an impression on anyone outside of the hardcore while the idea of financing an XSS with game pass ultimate for 24 months at $25/month would definitely sell well.
The price is an interesting subject.
A number of parts are expensive. The GPU generation the Xbox Series X and PS5 are based on, isn't even available for PC yet.

Anything that does ray tracing at a decent level is currently expensive, SSD's also relatively expensive especially the NVMe ones. According to leaks earlier this year the BOM for the PS5 was $450.
I'm expecting the Series S to hit $399 but both PS5 and Xbox Series X are unlikely to hit that number.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: EightBitNate on August 12, 2020, 04:04:08 PM
I got an Xbox Series X/S controller. One of like the 3 people in the world who have one. AMA
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: EightBitNate on August 12, 2020, 04:58:40 PM
How'd you get it?  Pics?

https://youtu.be/uWpWSE_AdRs

I bought it
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Rufus on August 12, 2020, 06:59:44 PM
Are the shoulder buttons more comfortable to reach?

Is the Xbox button still extremely mushy?

Does the shape of the dpad make it less fatiguing to use?
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on August 12, 2020, 07:14:19 PM
I got an Xbox Series X/S controller. One of like the 3 people in the world who have one. AMA
Are the triggers as squishy as the Xbox One X controllers or more clicky?

Is the D-pad still garbage tier?
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: EightBitNate on August 12, 2020, 07:46:33 PM
- didn’t see this mentioned anywhere but triggers are wider than my S1 elite controller. I didn’t feel like there was a problem with the old triggers until I tried this controller. Less sharp, more comfortable to press.

- texture on trigger feels good, though I can see it wearing down over time. Triggers feel about the same. Maybe slightly more clicky but this is a new controller so that’s expected.

- entire back is textured. Feels good.

- ever so slightly smaller, but still very noticeable to me. Not a fan of this since I have big hands.

- home button is stilly mushy for sure

- like the D-pad. Never really had a problem with the old one though. Feels solid, very clicky.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: demi on August 12, 2020, 09:42:31 PM
Its literally just an xbox controller, whats the big deal
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: EightBitNate on August 12, 2020, 09:53:12 PM
Its literally just an xbox controller, whats the big deal

Nuttin
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: paprikastaude on August 12, 2020, 10:23:56 PM
Xbox controllers are good.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: EightBitNate on August 12, 2020, 11:27:23 PM
Real talk - could I get into legal trouble for sharing the video? I didn’t hear about the looting until after I purchased the controller. Thought maybe a store was selling them early or something.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Don Rumata on August 13, 2020, 12:35:21 AM
Really only have two questions:

1) Do the bumpers feel the same? Xbone and even 360 had very clicky ones not very satisfying to press (they had little to no run) and they broke all the time; really the one gripe i have with Xbox controllers.

2) Nice slender hands, do you play the piano? If not, you should think about it.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: EightBitNate on August 13, 2020, 12:40:59 AM
Really only have two questions:

1) Do the bumpers feel the same? Xbone and even 360 had very clicky ones not very satisfying to press (they had little to no run) and they broke all the time; really the one gripe i have with Xbox controllers.

2) Nice slender hands, do you play the piano? If not, you should think about it.

1. Comparing it to my Elite controller, they’re actually a tad bit clickier IMO. Just compared them now. Could be because my Elite controller has seen some use. You definitely would not like them if you didn’t like the OG triggers.

2. You’re like the sixth person to tell me I have nice hands :-*
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: remy on August 13, 2020, 12:43:20 AM
Watching your video it looks like they took a lot of cues from the elite series 2. The triggers and textured back especially, the dpad kinda.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: EightBitNate on August 13, 2020, 12:49:08 AM
Yeah it’s honestly a very unremarkable controller but the Xbox One pad was pretty much perfect to begin with
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Don Rumata on August 13, 2020, 01:03:31 AM
1. Comparing it to my Elite controller, they’re actually a tad bit clickier IMO. Just compared them now. Could be because my Elite controller has seen some use. You definitely would not like them if you didn’t like the OG triggers.
Oh i'm fine with the triggers (in fact, i think they're better than the DS4's) my problem is with the bumpers, so RB/LB, or R1/L1, to be clear, which on Dualshock are usually better and last longer.
I've had 6 or 7 Xbox gamepads between 360 and Xbone, and in all of them, the bumpers were always the first part to fail.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: EightBitNate on August 13, 2020, 01:12:06 AM
1. Comparing it to my Elite controller, they’re actually a tad bit clickier IMO. Just compared them now. Could be because my Elite controller has seen some use. You definitely would not like them if you didn’t like the OG triggers.
Oh i'm fine with the triggers (in fact, i think they're better than the DS4's) my problem is with the bumpers, so RB/LB, or R1/L1, to be clear, which on Dualshock are usually better and last longer.
I've had 6 or 7 Xbox gamepads between 360 and Xbone, and in all of them, the bumpers were always the first part to fail.

My bad. Mistyped but I meant bumpers.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Transhuman on August 13, 2020, 03:34:36 AM
I wanna fuck your slutty little hands you little fuckslut
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 13, 2020, 04:42:06 AM
:shaq
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on August 19, 2020, 10:57:56 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkbflbBmhl4

New Dash for all of Xbox
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Raist on August 19, 2020, 02:51:56 PM
You'd think that after the July (or whenever it was) event backlash, MS would realize that people do not give a fuck about videos that are 90% folks talking about how awesome their stuff is.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Akala on August 19, 2020, 03:23:55 PM
xbox UI has been pretty trash since about mid-360 cycle when they got rid of the BLADES.  :doge
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 19, 2020, 03:30:23 PM
BUT WHAT'S THE PRICE??
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on August 19, 2020, 03:41:03 PM
BUT WHAT'S THE PRICE??

599 USD
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Trent Dole on August 19, 2020, 03:53:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rIJmGj4g-s
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on August 19, 2020, 06:20:12 PM
https://www.thurrott.com/games/239188/a-closer-look-at-halo-infinites-turbulent-journey# (https://www.thurrott.com/games/239188/a-closer-look-at-halo-infinites-turbulent-journey#)

HALO Infinite development sounds like a fucking mess.

Management distracted by the TV Show. Outsourcing not going well and a 'fake' trailer at E3 2019 :neogaf
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: benjipwns on September 07, 2020, 11:02:48 PM
https://twitter.com/_h0x0d_/status/1303165187369832448

$299
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: nudemacusers on September 07, 2020, 11:05:03 PM
looks pretty cool; big lol at the number of people who think that's a speaker grille, with an additional lol or two at people thinking anyone cares about disc drives in 2020 :crowdlaff
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Bebpo on September 08, 2020, 12:03:52 AM
I haven't been paying any attention. What's a Series S? Is it just the current Xbox One X rebranded?
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: benjipwns on September 08, 2020, 12:06:21 AM
It's a cut down cheaper version of the Series X, it will supplant the One X and become the middle-tier.

Xbox One S
Xbox One X Xbox Series S
Xbox Series X
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Bebpo on September 08, 2020, 12:08:40 AM
I don't get it. So from launch they're launching a weakened version of Series X?

So developers for next-gen games have to make 3 SKUs? Xbox Series X, PS5 and Series S? And at $299 it'll be like, what, a Switch version this gen equivalent of PS5/Series X games?
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: benjipwns on September 08, 2020, 12:09:07 AM
Quote from: https://www.windowscentral.com/xbox-series-x-and-xbox-series-s-release-date-and-price-finally-revealed
We can confirm the Xbox Series S is $299, and the Series X is $499.

Xbox Series S and Xbox Series X will launch on November 10, 2020.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Sho Nuff on September 08, 2020, 12:20:30 AM
I don't get it. So from launch they're launching a weakened version of Series X?

So developers for next-gen games have to make 3 SKUs? Xbox Series X, PS5 and Series S? And at $299 it'll be like, what, a Switch version this gen equivalent of PS5/Series X games?

If the CPU lines up on S and X, it's no big deal. I think the thing just has way less fill rate but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: demi on September 08, 2020, 12:24:36 AM
$500 is about what I expected - bring on November
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Don Rumata on September 08, 2020, 01:24:35 AM
299€ is damn good, if it's like rumored, the same console with a weaker GPU for 1080p gaming.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Beezy on September 08, 2020, 02:13:51 AM
https://twitter.com/Xbox/status/1303213264441024514
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Bebpo on September 08, 2020, 02:53:58 AM
I don't get it. So from launch they're launching a weakened version of Series X?

So developers for next-gen games have to make 3 SKUs? Xbox Series X, PS5 and Series S? And at $299 it'll be like, what, a Switch version this gen equivalent of PS5/Series X games?

If the CPU lines up on S and X, it's no big deal. I think the thing just has way less fill rate but I could be wrong.

Just seems weird that you can have like a $299 system that handles next-gen games. Like why even bother making the series X. Just release a $299 console and win the market and release the series X two years later as the Pro version upgrade.

The price difference is pretty huge too. Like wasn't the PS4 Pro just $100 more than the regular PS4? At $200 price difference seems like a huge difference in tech power, I just don't see how this doesn't cause fuckery in developing next-gen games for a machine that is gonna be a lot further behind than the other two. With Switch they could get away with just not making Switch versions of games that couldn't run on Switch. But Series S is advertising as being able to play every.single Series X game.

I guess we'll see how next-gen plays out.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 08, 2020, 03:06:11 AM
I like the look of the series s better than most consoles in a while, idk why people on resetera think it looks bad
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Don Rumata on September 08, 2020, 03:12:57 AM
I don't get it. So from launch they're launching a weakened version of Series X?

So developers for next-gen games have to make 3 SKUs? Xbox Series X, PS5 and Series S? And at $299 it'll be like, what, a Switch version this gen equivalent of PS5/Series X games?

If the CPU lines up on S and X, it's no big deal. I think the thing just has way less fill rate but I could be wrong.

Just seems weird that you can have like a $299 system that handles next-gen games. Like why even bother making the series X. Just release a $299 console and win the market and release the series X two years later as the Pro version upgrade.

The price difference is pretty huge too. Like wasn't the PS4 Pro just $100 more than the regular PS4? At $200 price difference seems like a huge difference in tech power, I just don't see how this doesn't cause fuckery in developing next-gen games for a machine that is gonna be a lot further behind than the other two. With Switch they could get away with just not making Switch versions of games that couldn't run on Switch. But Series S is advertising as being able to play every.single Series X game.

I guess we'll see how next-gen plays out.
They wouldn't win the market, they'd be the one with the weaker console, again.
Besides, MS has no practical way to "win" against Sony, no matter what (unless PS5 costs 1000$).
I think having two SKUs is a fine choice in and of itself, it's the naming and branding they that fucked up badly.

Xbox One S; Xbox One X; Xbox Series S; Xbox Series X.
This worst than the WiiU.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on September 08, 2020, 04:53:20 AM
This is basically Microsoft giving up on the next-gen performance crown while simultaneously promoting the most powerful console on the market.
Games made exclusively for PS5 will have a higher baseline spec.

On the flip side, they are giving Nintendo a big opening for a Switch 2 in 2021/2022 with comparable power at that price point thanks to Nvidia's AI magic.
This could either work out really well (i.e. cheaper upgrade for a recession for Xbox One base owners) or it could end up in a Saturn/Wii U like disaster.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: who is ted danson? on September 08, 2020, 05:13:20 AM
No disc drive?  :stahp
Could have been an ace back compat / general media machine

Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: mormapope on September 08, 2020, 05:24:07 AM
Relevant information
Quote
Series S is powerful than all current gen consoles by far.
It’s a next gen console that targets 1080p, instead of 4K.

Same Zen 2 CPU as XSX and PS5.
Same RDNA 2 GPU architecture as XSX and PS5.
Same GDDR6 RAM as XSX and PS5.
Same NVMe SSD as XSX.

It’s expected to have similar raytracing features, machine learning/AI capabilities as XSX as well.

Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on September 08, 2020, 05:35:09 AM
No disc drive?  :stahp
Could have been an ace back compat / general media machine
No disc drive is weird too. Consumers on a budget would likely be more interested in physical bargain bin prices.
Although GamePass offsets some of that.

I guess for $300 + GamePass you get a lot of 'next-gen' value if you are still stuck on 1080p.
But the only way I can see this work is if they start pulling Xbox One S from the shelves ASAP as well or clear them out at $99.

It all depends on Sony too. If Sony manages to get the PS5 Digital out there for $399 the XSX doesn't make much sense.
If Sony's offerings start at $499 there is a gap there.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: mormapope on September 08, 2020, 05:41:45 AM
No disc drive?  :stahp
Could have been an ace back compat / general media machine
No disc drive is weird too. Consumers on a budget would likely be more interested in physical bargain bin prices.
Although GamePass offsets some of that.

I guess for $300 + GamePass you get a lot of 'next-gen' value if you are still stuck on 1080p.
But the only way I can see this work is if they start pulling Xbox One S from the shelves ASAP as well or clear them out at $99.

It all depends on Sony too. If Sony manages to get the PS5 Digital out there for $399 the XSX doesn't make much sense.
If Sony's offerings start at $499 there is a gap there.

Xbox one inventory is pretty much cleared out at this point and production of current gen Xbox consoles has ceased.

The Xbox Series is going to take up all Xbox retail space, while left over One consoles may get clearance pricing or potentially sent back to Microsoft for recycling.

Looking up Xbox One consoles on Target and Best buy, they're not available or in stock. Xbox One and misbranding is a non issue. Covid moved all the Xbox Ones that would've trickled out in 2021.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on September 08, 2020, 05:57:09 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/_h0x0d_/status/1303252607759130624
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 08, 2020, 06:32:42 AM
No disc drive makes perfect sense in 2020

Do phones /ipads have disc drives?

Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: MMaRsu on September 08, 2020, 07:12:51 AM
 :what
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on September 08, 2020, 07:14:03 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/_h0x0d_/status/1303252607759130624
This looks like a more appealing product than the Xbox Series X they have been pushing for the past 12 months ever did  :mindblown :notlikethis
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Ghoul on September 08, 2020, 07:26:14 AM
No disc drive makes perfect sense in 2020

Do phones /ipads have disc drives?

Yeah get locked into buying at a higher price? No thanks.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: nudemacusers on September 08, 2020, 07:42:24 AM
No kid out there cares about physical media my dudes.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on September 08, 2020, 08:02:47 AM
Going after Nintendo! No wonder why Nintex is so miffed.
They just handed Nintendo a gift by opening the door to ports by not locking 'next-gen' behind the 9TF PS5 barrier.
If Nintendo wants, Nvidia can easily get them up to parity with their next-switch if they include some DLSS tricks.

Switch 2
Handheld mode: 720p - 1080p (no ray-tracing / no DLSS)
Docked mode (embedded Tensor cores): 1080p / 4k (DLSS/Ray-tracing)

Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 08, 2020, 08:25:19 AM
I actually... like the look of the Series S? Of course it's in white so it's by default disgusting. WTF console manufacturers, stop with this white bullshit. HARAM.

I agree with INTERNET VIDEO GAME PERSONALITY ALANAH PEARCE that the big news is the 2 year All Access financing options. MS seems to be going in hard on those and tbh will probably start touting those numbers as opposed to "consoles sold" and "attach rate" and other traditional metrics. (I also agree with her that I prefer single player games where I'm not forced to interact with other disgusting human beings so this trend is worrisome at best)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XzLyM5kzgg
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 08, 2020, 09:00:59 AM
It doesn't automatically follow but I feel like traditionally MS more successful offerings have been multiplayer oriented, also as everyone knows if you're not milking a title with season passes and microtransactions are you even trying bruh
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Cheddahz on September 08, 2020, 09:26:01 AM
I would honestly go with the Series S if it had a disc drive (the Xbox One X serves as my media machine and I'm a sucker and still buy some movies physically); the price points for these are good if true though
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: demi on September 08, 2020, 09:49:02 AM
Being able to play all your Xbox One games, and even Xbox 360 and Original Xbox games in a tiny $300 package  :bernie
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Beezy on September 08, 2020, 09:58:46 AM
This made me realize that the Switch has been out for 3.5 years and the price has not budged from $299. Who says no one makes money off hardware? Fucking Nintendo.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Ghoul on September 08, 2020, 10:21:45 AM
waiting for Fable to be GAAS
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: benjipwns on September 08, 2020, 10:54:00 AM
This is basically Microsoft giving up on the next-gen performance crown while simultaneously promoting the most powerful console on the market.
Games made exclusively for PS5 will have a higher baseline spec.

On the flip side, they are giving Nintendo a big opening for a Switch 2 in 2021/2022 with comparable power at that price point thanks to Nvidia's AI magic.
They just handed Nintendo a gift by opening the door to ports by not locking 'next-gen' behind the 9TF PS5 barrier.
If Nintendo wants, Nvidia can easily get them up to parity with their next-switch if they include some DLSS tricks.

Switch 2
Handheld mode: 720p - 1080p (no ray-tracing / no DLSS)
Docked mode (embedded Tensor cores): 1080p / 4k (DLSS/Ray-tracing)
It's a thing called heat.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Don Rumata on September 08, 2020, 10:56:08 AM
No disc drive makes sense for them to have a "cheap Gamepass machine", but personally the only reason i would've considered an Xbox right now, was going to be as a cheap BC machine to play (OG)xbox and 360 games... so this is a bit of a bummer.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 08, 2020, 10:56:43 AM
Wonder what the storage on the Series S will be and if you can connect external storage to it. "Play all your old games" is cool but...
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: benjipwns on September 08, 2020, 11:00:39 AM
Wonder what the storage on the Series S will be
512GB SSD
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: mormapope on September 08, 2020, 11:00:48 AM
External HDDs are used to play Xbox OG, 360, and Xbone games (Xbone games might use the SSD, but I'm sure they'd use a HDD), the SSD is used for current gen games. You can also store current gen games on the external HDD, and transfer them to the SSD to be used.

The Series S has a 500 GB SSD, PS5 is 800 GB, Series X is 1 TB.

Regardless of what console you get, data transferring or expansion is gonna be a necessity if you wanna play a lot of games at once.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Rufus on September 08, 2020, 11:18:35 AM
How do you attach Xbox, 360, and Xbone disc games you to your account using the SS? I'm guessing you don't, but could there be another solution? Besides using an Xbone, that is.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: benjipwns on September 08, 2020, 11:20:06 AM
Microsoft should figure out a way for me to plug-in a USB DVD drive to serve as the check for retail discs for Xbox and 360 games. I would highly consider their Series S simply for this plus Gamepass. :money
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: demi on September 08, 2020, 11:29:34 AM
How do you attach Xbox, 360, and Xbone disc games you to your account using the SS? I'm guessing you don't, but could there be another solution? Besides using an Xbone, that is.

I dont understand the question here - no disc drive means no disc games - you can buy them on the store, or at least whats available digitally still

Games dont get "added" to your account if you use a disc
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Rufus on September 08, 2020, 11:33:50 AM
I never looked into how the licensing works. :B

So you basically have to validate with a disc every time you play the game. OK. In that case, what Benji said.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Svejk on September 08, 2020, 11:54:01 AM
 :hmm

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhXLd3PXcAEEmDE?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: brawndolicious on September 08, 2020, 01:36:21 PM
No one cares about discs anymore but I could see them selling an external BD drive for people to play movies or their old Xbox game library. Similar to the HD-DVD thingy, but like $50 bucks. I doubt they'll expect it to eat into their digital sales tbh as that's the prevailing trend with all software for several years now.

Also a funny thing I just realized but the reason they made the top vent black is possibly because a lot of people have a tendency to stack things on top of flat/horizontal computers. The color scheme actually doesn't look too terrible to me but I prefer electronics to have a uniform color. It's probably been focus tested on normies but it looks like boba tea to me.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 08, 2020, 01:48:05 PM
I actually... like the look of the Series S? Of course it's in white so it's by default disgusting. WTF console manufacturers, stop with this white bullshit. HARAM.

I agree with INTERNET VIDEO GAME PERSONALITY ALANAH PEARCE that the big news is the 2 year All Access financing options. MS seems to be going in hard on those and tbh will probably start touting those numbers as opposed to "consoles sold" and "attach rate" and other traditional metrics. (I also agree with her that I prefer single player games where I'm not forced to interact with other disgusting human beings so this trend is worrisome at best)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XzLyM5kzgg

I keep getting recs for this bish's vids on youtube, but as a gamer bigot i don't wanna hear vidya talk from a god damned female  :comeon :gamer :maduro :biden :rash
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on September 08, 2020, 02:09:49 PM
What tires me mostly is that there's like 3 genuine sources and 10 000 channels repeating that same information over and over again in different formats giving the same opinions.

Oh and they all start with: "Well you know, we feel this subject has been discussed at length so I wasn't really sure if I should bring it up BUT"
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 08, 2020, 04:54:31 PM
i'm sure nintex can give us the low down :trumps
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: bork on September 08, 2020, 05:04:05 PM
https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/9/8/21426947/microsoft-xbox-series-s-specs-pricing-release-date-trailer-leak

Quote
Microsoft’s next-gen Xbox Series S console leaked earlier today, just before the company officially confirmed its $299 pricing. Now a new leak is providing more details on exactly what’s inside the smaller Xbox Series S. Twitter leaker WalkingCat has posted a promotional video for the Series S, confirming that the console is targeting 120fps gaming at up to 1440p resolution and offering 512GB of storage.

The Xbox Series S will also include support for ray tracing, variable rate shading, and variable refresh rate. Microsoft is also including support for 4K media streaming, and even 4K upscaling for games. The video also reveals the Xbox Series S is the smallest Xbox ever, and it will be 60 percent smaller than the bigger Xbox Series X.

Series S seems to be offering an amazing value for it's price.  512 GB of storage is low, but as long as it can be upgraded, it shouldn't matter.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Svejk on September 08, 2020, 07:26:51 PM
Series S seems to be offering an amazing value for it's price.  512 GB of storage is low, but as long as it can be upgraded, it shouldn't matter.
Has this been confirmed?
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Nintex on September 08, 2020, 07:28:20 PM
i'm sure nintex can give us the low down :trumps
The trend is scalability, get your games working on as many platforms as possible and that won't change anytime soon.
The fewer machines they have to adapt for, the happier the developers are.

They aren't thrilled having to do QA/Certification and Optimization for:
Xbox One -> PS4 -> PS4 Pro -> Xbox One X -> Xbox Series S -> PlayStation 5 / PS5 DE -> Xbox Series X -> PC

(and if they're really unlucky add Mobile, Switch and Stadia into the mix)

The base target is always the lowest spec machine.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: naff on September 08, 2020, 07:44:06 PM
With the GPU generally being the most expensive and critical component for defining the "next gen" and Series X having a GPU 3x as powerful as the Series S, this seems kinda pointless for people actually wanting that next gen differential.

That said, it will run great, play all the same games and fit into your tv cabinet sooo :doge

Not the product for me I guess
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on September 08, 2020, 07:51:17 PM
With the GPU generally being the most expensive and critical component for defining the "next gen" and Series X having a GPU 3x as powerful as the Series S, this seems kinda pointless for people actually wanting that next gen differential.

That said, it will run great, play all the same games and fit into your tv cabinet sooo :doge

Not the product for me I guess
Microsoft seems to have realized that plenty of gamers are still stuck on 1080p and all that GPU power is wasted on them.
It does significantly lower the bar for what constitutes as 'next-gen' though.

But with Fortnite and the cartoony cringe aesthetic being the norm these days, I can hardly blame them.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: mormapope on September 08, 2020, 07:57:32 PM
Keep in mind as well, they'll probably be a mid gen upgrade console, one a lot more powerful than the X.

Depending on if next gen has games worth playing right away, even if you have a 4K tv, buying an S and upgrading a few years down the line would work well for a lot of people. Not to mention the S getting a refresh, where a few years later, it'll have a stronger GPU that makes it comparable to the X.

This combined with Xbox All Access and being able to get an Xbox as long as your credit isn't fucked, Xbox in North America at the very least is going to be popular again.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on September 08, 2020, 08:04:14 PM
yeah, Microsoft is going for the American market for sure.

It won't move the needle in Europe or Japan one bit but they don't seem to care.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: naff on September 08, 2020, 08:09:39 PM
If all the Series X is doing with 8 tflops extra gpu power is rendering a higher internal resolution and the series S is upscaling, there's going to be a million videos about both consoles games looking exactly the same.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: naff on September 08, 2020, 08:12:01 PM
also, over 50% of the market own 4k sets now.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: mormapope on September 08, 2020, 08:26:28 PM
also, over 50% of the market own 4k sets now.

It's less about what people own for TVs and monitors, and more about how many people that own 4K tvs care about utilizing that resolution. 4K is the new standard, but how many casuals give a shit about a game being rendered at 4K?

Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: Don Rumata on September 08, 2020, 08:30:51 PM
I think it looks cool.

The GPU being the only weaker component is gonna be interesting.. will be curious to hear what devs say about it.
This is confirmed? I was assuming also less memory and lower clock speeds on the CPU?
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: brawndolicious on September 08, 2020, 08:49:06 PM
The CPU is identical between XSX/XSS but the S does have less RAM as apparently you need a lot less when you target a lower resolution.

The S also has a 512GB SSD instead of 1TB but that's a QoL downgrade rather than a performance one.

If all the Series X is doing with 8 tflops extra gpu power is rendering a higher internal resolution and the series S is upscaling, there's going to be a million videos about both consoles games looking exactly the same.

A bit unlikely for someone to have a 1080P TV with both an XSX and an XSS connected to it though....

Such a person may have both a PS5 and XSS, however, and their impressions there will be hilarious. An XSS rendering at 1080P should have significantly better performance than a PS5 rendering at 4K. Not to mention the PS5 is going to be screaming at 2.2 GHz while the XSS is around 1.5 GHz. Power consumption (and heat/noise) increase exponentially with overclocks which is why I still think that Sony originally intended to go for an 8 TF console.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: naff on September 08, 2020, 08:59:38 PM
More like the Digital Foundry comparisons and such. Expect a lot of comparisons like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljgCy4Y2sHc

also, over 50% of the market own 4k sets now.

It's less about what people own for TVs and monitors, and more about how many people that own 4K tvs care about utilizing that resolution. 4K is the new standard, but how many casuals give a shit about a game being rendered at 4K?

I think a lot actually do care in an emotional stupid kinda way, but just kinda absorb the marketing guff and assume what they're playing is 4k. Upscaled, native. Whatever. The majority don't care for sure, but if they see a video from DF or the like saying that "the Xbox Series S with upscaling looks the same as Series X with Halo 6" they would likely feel a little raw. That's why it's such a huge waste of resources. Get slightly less jaggy hair and smoother AA on sub pixel text and object edges! WOOO. YEAH. Can't believe that only incurred a 4 fold performance overhead.
Title: Re: Xbox Series X
Post by: bork on September 08, 2020, 09:00:28 PM
Series S seems to be offering an amazing value for it's price.  512 GB of storage is low, but as long as it can be upgraded, it shouldn't matter.
Has this been confirmed?

Not that I saw.  But I can't see it not being either upgradable or external drives being compatible.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: mormapope on September 08, 2020, 09:05:10 PM
I believe there's an expansion slot for SSD storage. The internal SSD can't be taken out or replaced in a conventional way IIRC.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: demi on September 09, 2020, 09:09:05 AM
And EA Play coming to Game Pass
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: demi on September 09, 2020, 09:40:51 AM
Amazon link for Series X

https://amzn.to/3m8eCwr
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Akala on September 09, 2020, 10:00:59 AM
link already dead. did it have the payment option deal or is that going to be something else?
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Akala on September 09, 2020, 10:03:52 AM
I hadn't seen this. wonder how much this option will be.

(https://i.imgur.com/Z4WSiNv.jpg)
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: demi on September 09, 2020, 10:17:00 AM
link already dead. did it have the payment option deal or is that going to be something else?

> Preorders Start September 22 <
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: bork on September 09, 2020, 10:29:02 AM
I hadn't seen this. wonder how much this option will be.

(https://i.imgur.com/Z4WSiNv.jpg)

There's a price leak somewhere. Think it was $199. Not cheap.

This is giving me Sony memory card/stick vibes.  Hope there's cheaper options out there.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Switters on September 09, 2020, 10:31:27 AM
My friends. I need advice. Put this to rest for me.

What is the better option?

Cyberpunk on xbox s

Cyberpunk on a i5 - 1660 GTX - 16gb

Or slap a new card with rtx in the old Personal Computer

4k TV

I already have gamepass and love it.


Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 09, 2020, 10:40:31 AM
My friends. I need advice. Put this to rest for me.

What is the better option?

Cyberpunk on xbox s

Cyberpunk on a i5 - 1660 GTX - 16gb

Or slap a new card with rtx in the old Personal Computer

4k TV

I already have gamepass and love it.

If it were me honestly I'd probably get a Series S, guessing it would be cheaper than any card you could get that would make a difference and it would likely upscale ok on your tv
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Akala on September 09, 2020, 10:40:45 AM
I would think the new RTX option, but haven't read on anything about bottlenecks, etc. and may want/need more of a rebuild. upscaled on s may be easiest option?
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on September 09, 2020, 01:31:14 PM
If you’re fine with a used card, you can pick up a 2000 series one at a significant discount right now.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on September 09, 2020, 02:34:53 PM
My friends. I need advice. Put this to rest for me.

What is the better option?

Cyberpunk on xbox s

Cyberpunk on a i5 - 1660 GTX - 16gb

Or slap a new card with rtx in the old Personal Computer

4k TV

I already have gamepass and love it.
Cyberpunk will always be better on PC but you will need quite the rig.
What type/gen of i5 do you have?

I would wait for Digital Foundry tests and such to see how it runs on the various platforms before making a decision.
It is not out of the question it runs like shit on anything but an RTX.  :doge
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: demi on September 09, 2020, 03:04:04 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhfD3NwXsAEqukW?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on September 09, 2020, 05:47:03 PM
(https://news.xbox.com/en-us/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/09/Tech-Specs-1.jpg?w=800)

At 4TF this would be equivalent to a RX5300(?)
The current PC workhorse @1080p (GTX 1660) has this GPU beat in performance on paper.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Don Rumata on September 09, 2020, 06:19:55 PM
Didn't RDNA2 calculate TF differently?
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 09, 2020, 06:39:15 PM
(https://news.xbox.com/en-us/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/09/Tech-Specs-1.jpg?w=800)

At 4TF this would be equivalent to a RX5300(?)
The current PC workhorse @1080p (GTX 1660) has this GPU beat in performance on paper.

Isn’t the Xbox one x better in the flop department :thinking
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on September 09, 2020, 06:51:06 PM
(https://news.xbox.com/en-us/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/09/Tech-Specs-1.jpg?w=800)

At 4TF this would be equivalent to a RX5300(?)
The current PC workhorse @1080p (GTX 1660) has this GPU beat in performance on paper.

Isn’t the Xbox one x better in the flop department :thinking
It is, XOX was 6TF, vs 12TF for the XSX and 4TF for the XSS

Didn't RDNA2 calculate TF differently?
I think that was Nvidia, and the 12 TF is mentioned here for the XSX, which was measured against the XOX's 6TF when they originally announced it.
Of course TF"s don't tell the whole story (it'll be a newer architecture, better feature set etc. ) but 20 CU's isn't a lot.

According to Jeff Grubb, Microsoft is selling the Series S at a bigger loss than the Series X.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: kingv on September 09, 2020, 10:52:37 PM
If you’re fine with a used card, you can pick up a 2000 series one at a significant discount right now.

I think we need to wait a few more weeks for the real deals. I'm still seeing like $450 for a used 2080. I don't think that's going to be competitive in price per performance with the 3000 series (if you can find one anywhere near MSRP).

I think I'm probably just going to go for the X first. I do most of my gaming on xbox already. Series X + Yakuza 7 is probably my winter gaming purhcase.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 10, 2020, 12:44:59 AM
Seems Xbox All Access will come to Denmark, so I might get a new console after all :)

Just not sure between the X and the S, already have a One X

(https://news.xbox.com/en-us/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/09/Tech-Specs-1.jpg?w=800)

At 4TF this would be equivalent to a RX5300(?)
The current PC workhorse @1080p (GTX 1660) has this GPU beat in performance on paper.

Isn’t the Xbox one x better in the flop department :thinking

It could be but the better cpu and new architecture could still make the S equal or better maybe? If the cpu was a big bottleneck on the one x that is.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Don Rumata on September 10, 2020, 02:31:56 AM
(https://news.xbox.com/en-us/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/09/Tech-Specs-1.jpg?w=800)

At 4TF this would be equivalent to a RX5300(?)
The current PC workhorse @1080p (GTX 1660) has this GPU beat in performance on paper.

Isn’t the Xbox one x better in the flop department :thinking
:rimshot
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 10, 2020, 04:46:22 AM
(https://news.xbox.com/en-us/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/09/Tech-Specs-1.jpg?w=800)

At 4TF this would be equivalent to a RX5300(?)
The current PC workhorse @1080p (GTX 1660) has this GPU beat in performance on paper.

Isn’t the Xbox one x better in the flop department :thinking
:rimshot

(https://i.imgflip.com/4egdiq.jpg)
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: demi on September 10, 2020, 09:52:22 AM
https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/09/10/xbox-and-taco-bell-win-xbox-series-x/

Live Mas motherfuckers
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: bork on September 10, 2020, 12:11:30 PM
https://youtu.be/fYtJWIxt3-M

Quote
Ronald also explained how Series S will resemble and differ from Series X, explaining that they both include the same CPU architecture running at 3.6GHz, but have separate GPUs. The Series S GPU is designed specifically for a 1440p output, at up to 120 frames per second (with upscaling for 4K TVs). However, all next-gen features should be otherwise the same.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Svejk on September 10, 2020, 12:53:06 PM
Seriously though... why is that big speaker looking spot/vent black while the rest is white?  It looks dumb as hell.  It'd look more sleek being a uniform color; all black or all white.   Looks cheap AF.  :kobeyuck  Like a Ferrari with a polished turd as a hood ornament.  :doge

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://y.yarn.co/b70478e1-6588-4704-bf1b-feeed121fdc7_text_hi.gif)
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Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 10, 2020, 01:01:41 PM
Seriously though... why is that big speaker looking spot/vent black while the rest is white?  It looks dumb as hell.  It'd look more sleek being a uniform color; all black or all white.   Looks cheap AF.  :kobeyuck  Like a Ferrari with a polished turd as a hood ornament.  :doge

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://y.yarn.co/b70478e1-6588-4704-bf1b-feeed121fdc7_text_hi.gif)
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 :respect
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 10, 2020, 01:11:04 PM
That’s why I’m only interested in the big boys edition :pimp
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: demi on September 10, 2020, 01:12:41 PM
big black and thick
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Trent Dole on September 10, 2020, 02:04:24 PM
https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/09/10/xbox-and-taco-bell-win-xbox-series-x/

Live Mas motherfuckers
aww shit I'm bout to do it again :rejoice
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: brawndolicious on September 10, 2020, 08:21:48 PM
Y'all crazy, The S is by far the best looking new console. It actually looks like it's trying to stick out of the crowd while still being simple and pretty. The X is boring in comparison (even tho that's the one I'll get).

The PS5 is just offensive, it looks like an industrial design major who slapped his thesis project together at the last minute. How do you make a console that's bigger, weaker, and still uglier than the competition?
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 10, 2020, 10:29:53 PM
You have games people want to play.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: remy on September 11, 2020, 12:46:35 AM
You have games people want to play.
one ps3 remaster carrying the worlds ugliest console on its back  :rejoice

meanwhile on xbox you can play ninja gaiden 1 and 2 in 4k by just putting the disk in
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 11, 2020, 01:36:06 AM
S looks cooler. Like a nice speaker you would have in the living room.

X looks like any other gamer gear minus led lights.

Im not sure I should upgrade from my One X and to what for 1080 gaming. I think S will be better for modern games due to better cpu and architecture, but maybe One X can overcome that with sheer gpu power. Dunno.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: nudemacusers on September 11, 2020, 05:48:07 AM
the series s aligns to the current 'warm scandi-minimal' consumer product design language trend so I don't see where it's some outlier in terms of look and feel... series x is in a similar boat but drops the warmth and goes for the 'pro' look though looks a little too staid, at least in photos.

whereas the ps5 looks like it was unearthed from my 2003 college dorm.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: tiesto on September 11, 2020, 09:08:05 AM
The whole minimalist look feels so mid 2000's to me and super boring (I also hated minimal techno that was so popular back then). PS5 is ugly and a clunker but at least it stands out and looks like a game console.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 11, 2020, 09:14:29 AM
Won't pick up either until next year due to a lot of current bills but the S is appealing to me because I don't have a monitor that I game on that is 4k. I may down the road but for now 1080 is kinda all I need at the moment. I could always just upgrade the console down the road if/when I get the 4k monitor.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 11, 2020, 09:50:25 AM
Scandinavian look is timeless and classy

PS5 is a router ???

The whole minimalist look feels so mid 2000's to me and super boring (I also hated minimal techno that was so popular back then). PS5 is ugly and a clunker but at least it stands out and looks like a game console.

Damn not often that I disagree with everything you say in a post  :-*
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 11, 2020, 11:01:59 AM
I'll buy a PS5 in a year or when I can get one in a non eyesore presentation. Both the series S and X are fine from a design standpoint other than the S being white, which is disgusting and haram. People who want their game consoles/electronics to "stand out" are going to be first up against the wall when the revolution comes.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nuitangg on September 11, 2020, 12:35:13 PM
Whoever designed the back ports of the PS4 is a dick.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: who is ted danson? on September 11, 2020, 12:39:44 PM
The xbox designs look like a Kallax add-on item. Pretty much as neutral as it gets. Going to blend into Kallax + fairy light + house plant combo that is the background of every youtube vlog ever.

The PS5 is just plain ugly. I don't know what happened to their design department, maybe the thermal engineers designed it (lol). Bring back the PS1/PS2/PSPGO/Vita designers.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 11, 2020, 12:46:02 PM
The PS5 is ugly but becomes less offensive if it was in black with gray accents. I've seen 'shops of it and they look fine. It's just the white bullshit, man. You people that like that shit are sick and need to be put down.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 11, 2020, 12:54:25 PM
i have a white xbox one x :trumps
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 11, 2020, 01:10:43 PM
:jeanluc
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 11, 2020, 01:30:18 PM
Im getting a white model 3 

 :win

I had white jeans in high school

 :umad

My house is painted white

 :playa
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 11, 2020, 02:04:35 PM
White interiors for houses are perfectly fine.

White for anything that gets handled a lot (phones, vidya controllers) or worn is asking for it to become filthy. White cars especially are the worst, it is known.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on September 11, 2020, 02:13:22 PM
Is there a White Xbox Series X? Or is that only in Dark Gray?
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: brawndolicious on September 11, 2020, 02:29:17 PM
The XSX is dark gray? Is that some zwarte piet revisionism?

White interiors for houses are perfectly fine.

White for anything that gets handled a lot (phones, vidya controllers) or worn is asking for it to become filthy. White cars especially are the worst, it is known.

I think the PS5 looks disgusting just the way it comes out of the factory but I don't think it'll look dirty over time. White controllers look bad because of how oils from your hands get embedded in them but for a device like a console/PC, black shows dust buildup the most in my anecdotal experience.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on September 11, 2020, 02:54:49 PM
https://twitter.com/shinobi602/status/1304481916557709313 (https://twitter.com/shinobi602/status/1304481916557709313)

 :thinking
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 11, 2020, 02:59:04 PM
Well its 4tf vs 6tf with different architecture a bit.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Don Rumata on September 11, 2020, 03:06:17 PM
https://twitter.com/shinobi602/status/1304481916557709313 (https://twitter.com/shinobi602/status/1304481916557709313)

 :thinking
:nope
Nevermind then.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on September 11, 2020, 03:09:19 PM
The XSX is dark gray? Is that some zwarte piet revisionism?

White interiors for houses are perfectly fine.

White for anything that gets handled a lot (phones, vidya controllers) or worn is asking for it to become filthy. White cars especially are the worst, it is known.

I think the PS5 looks disgusting just the way it comes out of the factory but I don't think it'll look dirty over time. White controllers look bad because of how oils from your hands get embedded in them but for a device like a console/PC, black shows dust buildup the most in my anecdotal experience.

Compared to my Jet Black GameCube, which had a deep black color.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0356/8346/7396/products/41U-s0pgtKL_530x.jpg?v=1586386857)

My Xbox One X and now the Xbox Series X seems more gray-ish.
(https://gamespot1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/scale_landscape/1591/15918215/3732242-preorder.jpg)
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 11, 2020, 03:18:58 PM
I had the deep zwarte too :lawd
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Trent Dole on September 11, 2020, 03:22:24 PM
S looks like a lot of latter day consoles, X is just straight up a PC tower. They're both fine really.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 11, 2020, 03:37:04 PM
S looks like a lot of latter day consoles, X is just straight up a PC tower. They're both fine really.

I give two shits what a console looks like. The S is relatively small which is a good thing, and while the series X is bigger at least its vertical which I prefer compared to say the original xbox one which was more like a VCR kinda thing which was annoying simply because of footprint size.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Bebpo on September 11, 2020, 03:53:11 PM
S looks really nice visually to me. X looks ok. I like sleek minimal looks for my boxes. PS4's pyramid is pretty solid, PS2 Slim was great, PS3's ovalness is ugly, PS5 is yikes forever (until the nice looking re-design 2-3 years in), Xbox is ugly as sin, X360 is ok but the black remodel towards the end was sleek.

Also I hate that all these new consoles are being shown standing (other than S which looks great horizontal). Who the fuck keeps an expensive piece of equipment that could fall down vertical anymore? All this stuff should be designed aesthetically first for horizontal. I can't believe the PS5 you need to buy a fucking stand just to put it horizontal. Feels like PS3 launch all over again.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Raist on September 11, 2020, 04:13:37 PM
https://www.gamespew.com/2020/09/xbox-series-s-wont-apply-xbox-one-x-enhancements-microsoft-confirms/

Quote
“Xbox Series S was designed to be the most affordable next generation console and play next generation games at 1440P at 60fps. To deliver the highest quality backwards compatible experience consistent with the developer’s original intent, the Xbox Series S runs the Xbox One S version of backward compatible games while applying improved texture filtering, higher and more consistent frame rates, faster load times and Auto HDR.”

Perfect clarity achieved :lol


I hadn't seen this. wonder how much this option will be.

(https://i.imgur.com/Z4WSiNv.jpg)

There's a price leak somewhere. Think it was $199. Not cheap.

This is giving me Sony memory card/stick vibes.  Hope there's cheaper options out there.

They went for a proprietary format, so not gonna happen.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on September 11, 2020, 04:34:18 PM
Wait, didn't they say 120FPS in the trailer?

Already 60fps less.

This deal is getting worse all the time  :lol
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Trent Dole on September 11, 2020, 04:45:11 PM
Remember how MGS4 was built to what PS3 specs allegedly were and then since they actually weren't that it had a giant fuck off install between every chapter? Don't believe anything until DF or whoever have torn the thing down and said 'this is what's actually in here'.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on September 11, 2020, 04:50:45 PM
I believe this is the first time when developers from id software, remedy and call of duty have come out on Twitter to warn us against an impending console release from Microsoft.

This is truly bizarre.  :doge
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: El Babua on September 11, 2020, 05:37:31 PM
Microsoft gimping their one actual next gen system.

You hate to see it.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: nudemacusers on September 11, 2020, 05:40:02 PM
nothing wrong with white consumer electro-
i have a white xbox one x :trumps
why tho :hhh
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 11, 2020, 06:10:16 PM
 :patel
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on September 11, 2020, 06:23:16 PM
https://twitter.com/Xbox/status/1304540226057121794 (https://twitter.com/Xbox/status/1304540226057121794)
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 11, 2020, 08:03:44 PM
Imagine caring about the design of a system that you won’t ever be looking at ever and will probably hide behind the TV/entertainment system anyway

Edit: goddamit new page curse
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: benjipwns on September 11, 2020, 10:02:40 PM
Any rumors on the pricing for the Kinect pack-in SKU?
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 12, 2020, 12:53:45 AM
$100 less if you take it.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: kingv on September 12, 2020, 01:40:10 AM
I’m starting to get excited for series x. Pretty sure I’ll be in day 1 if I can get a preorder in
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 12, 2020, 03:15:40 AM
Yeah as a pretty much Playstation stan, the PS5 as is is so unappealing looking. Not that looks matter, but it's so ugly and white not a color I want that its serving as a detractor to wanting one. I'd rather wait till a inevitable black one.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Don Rumata on September 12, 2020, 03:21:04 AM
Yeah as a pretty much Playstation stan, the PS5 as is is so unappealing looking. Not that looks matter, but it's so ugly and white not a color I want that its serving as a detractor to wanting one. I'd rather wait till a inevitable black one.
You have to treat it like a sex doll, buy it hide it in the closet or under the bed.  :doge
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 12, 2020, 03:29:44 AM
I've already got the sex toy looking move controllers in a easy to see docking station. No shame.



spoiler (click to show/hide)
Oh and also the huge game wall with stuff like Senran Kagura. I've already lost.
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Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Raist on September 12, 2020, 03:45:46 AM
https://twitter.com/Xbox/status/1304540226057121794 (https://twitter.com/Xbox/status/1304540226057121794)

You guys didn't notice the generic white box huehehehe
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 12, 2020, 04:09:34 AM
Nintendies would have spotted it after forensically going thru the video after 2 hours of it releasing it at most, xbots need to step up their autism game :miyamoto
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: BIONIC on September 12, 2020, 07:02:59 AM
Nintendies would have spotted it after forensically going thru the video after 2 hours of it releasing it at most, xbots need to step up their autism game :miyamoto

AutistyXplain would’ve had a 3 hour analysis video up while the livestream was still ongoing  :pimp
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Beezy on September 12, 2020, 11:40:50 AM
I haven't followed much about the specs of the new systems because I don't really understand that shit and I know I'll buy both eventually anyway, but I thought PS5 was supposed to be the more powerful console? I feel like everything I've skimmed in recent weeks has said otherwise.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Rufus on September 12, 2020, 12:12:13 PM
The Series X is the most powerful (only its SSD is slower), but the existence of the Series S tampers that by a lot, since it lowers the floor considerably (its lower memory and memory bandwidth, specifically). Games will have to be made to scale well like on PC. Multiplat devs aren't keen on that.

IGN has a chart with all details:
https://www.ign.com/wikis/playstation-5/PS5_vs._Xbox_Series_X_Comparison_Chart
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 12, 2020, 02:22:55 PM
It lowers the floor for ps5 too, big third parties aren’t gonna skip Xbox and for the ones that do (Japanese devs who make lower budget weeb shit) you aren’t gonna see much, if any, of the baseline power difference anyway :trumps
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on September 12, 2020, 06:36:48 PM
https://twitter.com/WWG/status/1304903193386774530 (https://twitter.com/WWG/status/1304903193386774530)

Don't bother watching this briefing. MS is a leaky boat, but it really is nothing new.

Unless you want to watch a bunch of executives discuss absolutely nothing for 60 minutes  :idont
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Lonewulfeus on September 12, 2020, 07:32:25 PM
We know the price and release date, as far as hardware goes what else do we need?
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: kingv on September 13, 2020, 02:47:45 AM
It lowers the floor for ps5 too, big third parties aren’t gonna skip Xbox and for the ones that do (Japanese devs who make lower budget weeb shit) you aren’t gonna see much, if any, of the baseline power difference anyway :trumps

Realistically... a lot of devs are still going to try to get their games running on a switch.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nuitangg on September 22, 2020, 11:15:47 AM
Another preorder shit show.  :rage
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 22, 2020, 11:19:45 AM
:trumps

I remember just pre ordering a ps4 randomly in like august of 2013 off amazon and it coming on launch day :lol
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Svejk on September 22, 2020, 11:22:34 AM
Another preorder shit show.  :rage
Wonder if MS is gonna blame bots as well.  :doge
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 22, 2020, 11:23:45 AM
Game in the uk have added a £9.99 delivery fee to ps5 and the Xbox’s, even if you have selected to pick up in store :doge

Apparently a direct order from their parent company frasers group, aka sports direct, and if you know you know on that one :girlaff
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 22, 2020, 11:50:08 AM
Going to gamestop just puts you in line for this.

But I don't want it.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: mormapope on September 22, 2020, 11:57:50 AM
Pre-ordered on Amazon
 :rash :itagaki
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: demi on September 22, 2020, 12:09:53 PM
I sat in queue on GameStop only to be greeted to "Out of Stock" LMFAO

Made it to checkout on MS Store but it was being dogshit

BUT I GOT ONE ON AMAZON
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: mormapope on September 22, 2020, 12:13:45 PM
We'll being X'ing together daddy  :-* :shh :heartbeat
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 22, 2020, 12:15:50 PM
Got one on Gamestop.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: demi on September 22, 2020, 12:17:03 PM
We'll being X'ing together daddy  :-* :shh :heartbeat

I'm pent up and ready to pop, come over and let's jerk off together
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: nudemacusers on September 22, 2020, 01:06:26 PM
Hmm this is too fat for my entertainment stand’s shelving 🤔

Gonna have to get a new one I guess 🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: MMaRsu on September 22, 2020, 01:18:05 PM
Yeah I said it looked like that Keanu Reeves movie
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 22, 2020, 01:21:53 PM
I think it was Goodbye Volcano High.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 22, 2020, 01:51:56 PM
Imagine caring about the design of a system that you won’t ever be looking at ever and will probably hide behind the TV/entertainment system anyway

Do you guys actually do this?

Like my entertainment has the systems out in the open to be seen at all times. Mostly, because I wouldn't cover them simply as a dust issue and always have access to them.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Don Rumata on September 22, 2020, 01:54:35 PM
I have them out in the open, but nobody's going to see them anyway. :fbm
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: MMaRsu on September 22, 2020, 02:54:07 PM
I have my 4 mini consoles sitting in front of the tv and it looks awesome
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 22, 2020, 03:47:02 PM
I only have a Switch and PS4 but they're both in my entertainment center; they're both black so not disgusting looking anyway, tho, because I'm an adult and don't like brightly colored toys.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: zomgee on September 22, 2020, 04:08:28 PM
Ended up with an S, and X, and an Elite. Took some work but I got what I wanted.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: paprikastaude on September 22, 2020, 04:43:57 PM
https://twitter.com/Fobwashed/status/1308071874102927360
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: nudemacusers on September 22, 2020, 06:33:55 PM
Hmm this is too fat for my entertainment stand’s shelving 🤔

Gonna have to get a new one I guess 🤷‍♂️
https://www.roomandboard.com/catalog/storage/media-cabinets/coles-media-cabinets

will prob get one of these; too bad the lead time means i'll have to delay my purchase a bit :(
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: naff on September 22, 2020, 07:03:05 PM
Didn't RDNA2 calculate TF differently?

not really. but also yes, every architecture has improvements/differences on top of raw tf that can't be communicated so simply. tl;dr intergenerational FLOP comparison is not all that valuable, but still gives a rough idea of output potential. comparing the series s and x rdna2 chip FLOPs is reasonable though. like the X gpu will be able to perform nearly 3x as many calculations as the S gpu.

afaik it's still shader cores * clock speed * instructions per clock cycle
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: kingv on September 22, 2020, 07:49:58 PM
Got my series x orderin at Amazon this morning.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Svejk on September 22, 2020, 11:29:56 PM
 :goldberg
https://twitter.com/AndrewAlerts/status/1308497697775562752

I mean, this shit is way more confusing than the Wii/WiiU fiasco.   :doge. And they said the PS5 pre-order was a nightmare.  Guess it's still money in MS pockets.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: paprikastaude on September 22, 2020, 11:56:39 PM
Saw this tweet a couple of hours ago but only got it now, because I completely forgot how the Bone Pro was called. :goldberg
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: daycru on September 23, 2020, 01:04:46 PM
Just remembered that Xbox controllers still use AA batteries   >:(
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Himu on September 23, 2020, 02:38:55 PM
MS is not playing this gen :ohhh

https://twitter.com/DarthChillash/status/1308698155832270848
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: naff on September 23, 2020, 05:34:15 PM
improved res and framerate. basic lighting improvements for certain games eg what they've shown w gears 5
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: demi on September 23, 2020, 05:35:56 PM
Finally, concrete proof that Blinx the Timesweeper looks amazing at 120fps 4K
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: BIONIC on September 23, 2020, 06:27:22 PM
Call me when they give us raytraced Voodoo Vince  :snob
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 23, 2020, 09:37:53 PM
Finally, concrete proof that Blinx the Timesweeper looks amazing at 120fps 4K

Advent Rising still trash tho

:yeshrug
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Sho Nuff on September 23, 2020, 09:45:06 PM
Just remembered that Xbox controllers still use AA batteries   >:(

Yeah this fuckin rules and it's the best feature. Ask me about my Dual Shock 3s. Or fuck, even my Dual Shock 4s.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: nudemacusers on September 23, 2020, 10:24:06 PM
Just remembered that Xbox controllers still use AA batteries   >:(
get eneloops, peasant :snob
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: remy on September 24, 2020, 12:48:56 AM
https://twitter.com/dark1x/status/1308830078692995074

Looking forward to seeing that this means.
120 fps ninja gaiden 2 pls :rejoice
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: MMaRsu on September 24, 2020, 08:09:51 AM
Or NGB at 4k 120FPS

 :lawd :lawd :lawd :lawd
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Sho Nuff on September 24, 2020, 09:03:49 AM
Preorders go live in 2 hours in Japan. Who knows if it'll be a clusterfuck. On one side the demand is gonna be next to nothing, on the other side maybe they figured that already and are allocating 100 units to the entire country
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Svejk on September 24, 2020, 09:05:26 AM
Quote
Xbox Series X Expandable Storage (edit: 1TB) Costs $219.99, According To Best Buy
Yikes, if true... Guess that's another push for towards xcloud I suppose.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: kingv on September 24, 2020, 10:25:21 AM
I did read you could still use external hdd for X1 games and series x games can be stored there, and transferred over to the ssd as needed, so that helps some
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Sho Nuff on September 24, 2020, 11:23:21 AM
Japan is done. It was a fucking shitshow here. I got one on Amazon after randomly following links from Japanese twitter. My buddy in Tokyo was on the MS site at midnight and got one, but then it rejected all his payment methods (that he'd used before on that account) and kicked him out.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: demi on September 24, 2020, 11:36:11 AM
Everyone not-japanese rushing to order an Xbox
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on September 24, 2020, 12:19:04 PM
Xbox Series X|S Seagate 1TB Game Drive, $219.99

Nintendo Switch Lite, $199,99

We're at a point in history where a storage expansion for a console is more expensive than a Nintendo handheld.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 24, 2020, 12:33:59 PM
Probably was that way in the 360 days when they were selling 120 gig hard drives (or was it 80 idk) separately too, I wanna say you could get a DS for the similar or cheaper price by then :doge
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: kingv on September 24, 2020, 12:46:27 PM
Yeah.. transfer a ~80-100GB game across USB then transfer another back to get sweet load times bros lol

It's priced high because it is in fact a custom drive... it's a tiny form factor for one, and drives that size are usually expensive and don't come with DRAM like the XS drives need.    Shit aint cheap, it's not some conspiracy to get you to stream games at 720p to your Android phone if you have one instead.

Better than downloading it again still, and at least you can keep any BC games on a regular external.

I’m not saying it’s perfect by any means.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Raist on September 24, 2020, 02:48:53 PM
Xbox Series X|S Seagate 1TB Game Drive, $219.99

Nintendo Switch Lite, $199,99

We're at a point in history where a storage expansion for a console is more expensive than a Nintendo handheld.


As much as that drive price is quite steep, especially since there will be no alternative, I can't say I'm shocked that a recent SSD is more expensive than a refurbished nVidia shield.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 24, 2020, 03:43:17 PM
They could have made it bigger tho so it feels like you’re getting your moneys worth :trumps

£220 for something that looks like a ps1 or 2 memory card :nope
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: bork on September 24, 2020, 05:43:14 PM
The Verge says that "[g]ames for the Xbox Series S can be 30 percent smaller than the Series X, which will certainly help with storage options."

https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/9/24/21453904/microsoft-xbox-series-x-1tb-expandable-storage-price-219-99

Quote
Xbox Series X Expandable Storage (edit: 1TB) Costs $219.99, According To Best Buy
Yikes, if true... Guess that's another push for towards xcloud I suppose.

It's not any better for PS5- there's a compatible 1TB drive that just got announced for the low, low price of $230.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: naff on September 24, 2020, 06:35:56 PM
For the kinds of SSDs they're using that's pretty standard. Sure you can get a 1TB ssd for $100, but drives in that price bracket aren't nearly as good as the drives Sony and M$ are using on these consoles.

This is a better comparison https://www.newegg.com/samsung-1tb-980-pro/p/N82E16820147790?Description=1tb%20ssd&cm_re=1tb_ssd-_-20-147-790-_-Product
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: naff on September 24, 2020, 06:55:08 PM
lol, that's actually the ssd sony recommends.

i guess xbox ssd is a bit slower eh, but it seems like a relatively trivial difference (like ~1gbps compressed read difference?). 970 pro that halves IO speeds of these new drives is currently ~$310

damn, sounds like the sony drive is even faster than i'd thought. pretty skeptical those specs are actually going to hold up in testing :doge

Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: brawndolicious on September 24, 2020, 08:26:07 PM
The Sony and Sabrent drives are the same price as the Xbox Seagate thing but they end up being twice as fast. The advantage of the Xbox drive is that it is hot-swappable and doesn't require screwing something into the motherboard. Nerds that post on forums may be fine with doing that but it's more accessible to normies.

Personally, I'm just hoping the Xbox drives go way down in price now that the custom tooling and whatever has been built but I'm not optimistic, seeing as how overpriced X360 drives were back in the day. Maybe some enterprising vendor on Alibaba will come out with a shady NVME-Xbox adapter?
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: naff on September 24, 2020, 09:22:47 PM
The Sony and Sabrent drives are the same price as the Xbox Seagate thing but they end up being twice as fast. The advantage of the Xbox drive is that it is hot-swappable and doesn't require screwing something into the motherboard. Nerds that post on forums may be fine with doing that but it's more accessible to normies.

i would be really surprised if the specs they're touting end up in stable speeds even 1.5x faster than what ms are touting. maybe in very short bursts, but it would be a huge achievement if their drive is capable of the speeds they're touting for longer/continuous streams of data.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 25, 2020, 12:21:48 AM
Well one thing we know that none of those ps5 drives are compatible with TES6
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 25, 2020, 12:50:51 AM
Considering how buggy TES games have been, maybe a good thing....
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 25, 2020, 12:56:46 AM
Considering you don't care about Xbox or TES you sure post a lot about both
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 25, 2020, 01:01:28 AM
It was a joke.

Because TES games are Buggy...

Espically on Playstation..
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: naff on September 25, 2020, 01:10:15 AM
Nobody has any clue what drives are gonna be compatible with PS5 yet.

yeah, i misread speculation the pro 980 will be on the list of approved drives. we do know the approved expansion drives will be M.2 NVMe at least.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: bork on September 25, 2020, 10:50:38 AM
SNK announced that Samurai Shodown (2019) is getting a Series S/X release.

Not sure why since the Xbone version will run, but OK. Hope it at least allows for matches with Xbone players.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Himu on September 25, 2020, 10:53:30 AM
Real talk, if Xbox Series X had Demon's Souls and some other games I'd get it over PS5. :lawd That clean look.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Don Rumata on September 26, 2020, 12:59:50 AM
Real talk, if Xbox Series X had Demon's Souls and some other games I'd get it over PS5. :lawd That clean look.
I mean.. no shit? Exclusives games are literally the only selling point of PS5.  :lol
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: naff on September 26, 2020, 01:05:46 AM
who wouldn't want those butti slick chad warden lines adorning their entertainment unit tho
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: mormapope on September 28, 2020, 11:35:42 AM
https://youtu.be/DufdZTfsa_I

Sounds fast as fuck and the new features are legit.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: bork on September 28, 2020, 12:22:23 PM
https://twitter.com/digitalfoundry/status/1310569066445377536
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: mormapope on September 28, 2020, 12:35:12 PM
Sekiro also ran at 60fps locked versus it hovering around 45/30 for the Xbone X. It sounds like a ton of current gen games are gonna run way better and in 4k.

All that money I spent on a terrifying backlog is gonna pay off
 :aah

Cold boot, about 10 seconds long
https://youtu.be/oFcDfznnvSM
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Don Rumata on September 28, 2020, 12:44:02 PM
BC info sounds real nice.
Cold boot doesn't seem that impressive, more or less like a freshly formatted SSD PC.  :yeshrug
It'd be better if you could skip that Xbox logo.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: BisMarckie on September 28, 2020, 01:32:02 PM
Mercenaries will look fucking sweet on that Series X :rejoice
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 28, 2020, 01:43:58 PM
I mean I would hope uncapped 4K modes for games like DOA 6 would run at 60fps.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Akala on September 28, 2020, 01:57:57 PM
All that money I spent on a terrifying backlog is gonna pay off
 :aah

I thought the same but who am I kidding.  :lol

Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 28, 2020, 02:45:20 PM
GTA 4 at 60 fps! :O
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on September 28, 2020, 02:48:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oe1LUJyCCs

 :whoo
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: demi on September 28, 2020, 05:01:33 PM
Excited to play catchup on games
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: naff on September 28, 2020, 06:01:03 PM
 8) yeah, that's pretty slick. no doubt sony will have something similar, but i doubt it will brute force improvements as well as this. we'll see!
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Sho Nuff on September 29, 2020, 12:59:52 AM
This is pretty great, I'm still playing fucking PS3 games in my backlog so jacked up backwards compatibility is hot hot hot
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: MMaRsu on October 06, 2020, 01:33:30 PM
https://youtu.be/z9nx15x5IUY
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: bork on October 07, 2020, 02:24:35 PM
https://twitter.com/LamarrWilson/status/1313621670662299648
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: demi on October 07, 2020, 03:09:28 PM
He's got it sideways too. Sexy
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: MMaRsu on October 07, 2020, 03:13:19 PM
He's got it sideways too. Sexy

Not as sexy as you boss hog  :-*
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Svejk on October 07, 2020, 03:48:42 PM
https://twitter.com/LamarrWilson/status/1313621670662299648
Wonder how long that wait was for that break in video.   :hmm
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Svejk on October 08, 2020, 10:13:16 AM
Supposedly the XSX runs really hot...
https://www.pcmag.com/news/multiple-reports-suggest-xbox-series-x-runs-really-hot
Quote
"The Series X is hot, like really hot! It doesn’t make any noise, but damn it’s hot! The console is emitting heat like crazy. It’s almost like a fireplace shaft. You can heat up your flat with it."
Sounds like it needs that hog of a heatsink like the PSFif.  ;)

Best not wait for Spring and get it for the Winter, brehz.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: naff on October 08, 2020, 05:43:08 PM
they're both going to be space heaters, though no worse than your average pc (prob better tbh)
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Rufus on October 08, 2020, 06:51:06 PM
Why are they surprised at hot air coming out the vent? That's a good sign! Those 300+ watt needs to go somewhere.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: tiesto on October 08, 2020, 09:30:42 PM
So my brother's giving me his launch-day Xbone now that he's moving (too bad he's not gifting me all his CIB N64 and GBA games :/ )...
Anything worth getting that's not already on PS4/Switch (or is improved on the Bone...heh) and would appeal to a retro/weeb gamer like me? Rare Replay is the obvious one.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: brawndolicious on October 09, 2020, 03:20:27 AM
The Ori games I guess but those are also available on Switch, they actually did a pretty decent Switch port.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 10, 2020, 08:00:31 AM
Why are they surprised at hot air coming out the vent? That's a good sign! Those 300+ watt needs to go somewhere.

Bu bu its so much better if the insides melt like in the 360
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: bork on October 10, 2020, 05:24:27 PM
https://twitter.com/digitalfoundry/status/1314915813703512065

Supposedly the XSX runs really hot...
https://www.pcmag.com/news/multiple-reports-suggest-xbox-series-x-runs-really-hot
Quote
"The Series X is hot, like really hot! It doesn’t make any noise, but damn it’s hot! The console is emitting heat like crazy. It’s almost like a fireplace shaft. You can heat up your flat with it."
Sounds like it needs that hog of a heatsink like the PSFif.  ;)

Best not wait for Spring and get it for the Winter, brehz.

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/034/252/hot.jpg)
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 11, 2020, 05:29:16 AM
Sold my one X yesterday, now to decide if I should get a series S or an X.

Leaning towards series S, cheaper, smaller and I don't have a 4k telly.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on October 11, 2020, 07:47:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIMAujZpry0

 :yeshrug
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: demi on October 11, 2020, 12:55:45 PM
Finally, the journalism I've been waiting for

https://twitter.com/geoffkeighley/status/1315148169831837696
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Raist on October 12, 2020, 11:00:25 AM
Sold my one X yesterday, now to decide if I should get a series S or an X.

Leaning towards series S, cheaper, smaller and I don't have a 4k telly.

You sold a better console to get a Series S? Congrats.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 12, 2020, 11:09:53 AM
Sold my one X yesterday, now to decide if I should get a series S or an X.

Leaning towards series S, cheaper, smaller and I don't have a 4k telly.

I would absolutely get an S myself if it wasn't for the resolution stuff with backwards compatible games. Or if I was a multi-console owner I would get one either way because the backwards compatability would be less of an issue with play time spread around multiple systems.

I'm really glad the S exists either way for people who don't need the 4k stuff and aren't especially anal about the back compat.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Raist on October 12, 2020, 02:33:23 PM
Quick resume looking decent.

What doesn't is games like Halo MCC, FH4 and Gears 5 not running yet :dead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK-iSllg62g
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: mormapope on October 12, 2020, 03:48:03 PM
Digital Foundry played or was shown Gears 5 on the series S. I imagine the updates/upgrades for those aren't ready yet to release.

Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: MMaRsu on October 13, 2020, 04:35:22 AM
Quick resume looking decent.

What doesn't is games like Halo MCC, FH4 and Gears 5 not running yet :dead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK-iSllg62g

Wtffff? Fh4 dont work?
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Svejk on October 13, 2020, 08:13:04 AM
Quick resume looking decent.

What doesn't is games like Halo MCC, FH4 and Gears 5 not running yet :dead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK-iSllg62g

Aren't those the main games the reason people buys boners?  :doge Surely that'll be patched up Day 1, right? 
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 13, 2020, 10:18:49 AM
they're doing series x versions of them
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: mormapope on October 13, 2020, 10:29:46 AM
*while the usual concern trolling for Microsoft continues

https://youtu.be/6GnvSNA-1DY

And that's on the Series S.  :-*
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: demi on October 13, 2020, 10:54:40 AM
Fallout 4 and Sekiro at 60, good thing I waited. Backlogs rule
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: brawndolicious on October 13, 2020, 04:54:06 PM
Sold my one X yesterday, now to decide if I should get a series S or an X.

Leaning towards series S, cheaper, smaller and I don't have a 4k telly.

You sold a better console to get a Series S? Congrats.

The One X and PS4Pro play Yakuza at 1080P/30fps. The Series S does get 1440P/30fps and it's worth noting that the Yakuza engine is apparently not well-optimized for next-gen hardware. Even a 2080Ti can't do 4K/60fps.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 13, 2020, 10:20:44 PM
Is PS5 gonna do shit to this level, I'm literally buying way more Xbox One games now because I know they're future proofed
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: naff on October 13, 2020, 10:31:57 PM
Is PS5 gonna do shit to this level, I'm literally buying way more Xbox One games now because I know they're future proofed

i dont think anyone knows at this point and won't for a few more weeks, but pretty safe to say sony's tech in this area won't be as good as m$ who were also pretty innovative with their bc tech on the bone

makes sense given microsoft have more experience supporting legacy code than pretty much any other company on the face of the planet and have more money than god. would be embarrassing af if sony outdid them.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 14, 2020, 02:04:51 AM
Sold my one X yesterday, now to decide if I should get a series S or an X.

Leaning towards series S, cheaper, smaller and I don't have a 4k telly.

You sold a better console to get a Series S? Congrats.

You think the One X will run next gen games better then the S?

I have a bridge to sell you...

For last gen games this can make sense, but games made now will be made with the new CPUs in mind. One X won't hack it despite some advantages.

For last gen compatibility it sucks though a bit as you will most likely get some tradeoffs.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: brawndolicious on October 14, 2020, 02:08:28 AM
I think the big elephant in the room is whether MS is going to push more towards the traditional, closed garden ecosystem where you can only get games from them and they have ultimate power to set the price, or if they want most of their revenue to come from subscribers that can be playing on any device under the sun?

Their marketing seems to suggest that they're going all in on Game Pass and Play Anywhere but wouldn't that mean that they'd have to compete with game prices that are on Steam, GOG, Best Buy, and really every retail chain? Like we all want our game library to be something we can carry forever in case we get nostalgic so the idea of a multiplatform library that has competitive pricing is appealing, but I don't know if I trust MS to really take that risk and bet that enough people will be on GP to make it worth it.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 14, 2020, 02:22:57 AM
Like we all want our game library to be something we can carry forever in case we get nostalgic so the idea of a multiplatform library that has competitive pricing is appealing, but I don't know if I trust MS to really take that risk and bet that enough people will be on GP to make it worth it.

I really don't care anymore.

Just like movie collections for me. Used to be a thing. Used to own VHS/DVDs. Now I watch whats on tap/demand and don't care.

There is so much on offer, I can just wait for it to become available or just try something else.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: bork on October 14, 2020, 07:26:20 AM
Is PS5 gonna do shit to this level, I'm literally buying way more Xbox One games now because I know they're future proofed

Guessing not or they would have announced it already.  Sony seems to be updating some of their own games, like Ghosts Of Tsushima, to run at 60 FPS and that's all we know.

Microsoft is handling backwards compatibility way better than anyone else.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Svejk on October 14, 2020, 08:15:21 AM
Is PS5 gonna do shit to this level, I'm literally buying way more Xbox One games now because I know they're future proofed

Guessing not or they would have announced it already.  Sony seems to be updating some of their own games, like Ghosts Of Tsushima, to run at 60 FPS and that's all we know.

Microsoft is handling backwards compatibility way better than anyone else.
I've ripped on MS enough on them touting BC (among other stuff), but I'm coming around.  Good on them for putting the effort they have... simply because backlogs are so trill nowadays.
And wtf is the deal about Cerny basically claiming the Fif can technically do entire PS legacy, but have nothing to show for it currently?  Guess if it is a thing, they'll focus it on it later... but not putting the emphasis on it now, like MS has been for a bit, that could end up hurting PS sales.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 14, 2020, 10:08:35 AM
Yeah smart by MS, dumb by Sony imho

Its like they haven't learned anything in this regard since Ps1.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: mormapope on October 14, 2020, 10:45:04 AM
I think the smartest thing about putting this much effort into BC is how game pass can be beefed up with older releases that will look and perform relatively the same as "modern" games.

Game pass could go from having around 200 games to 500+. Publishers arent going to balk at older games in their catalog going into the service and people potentially buying a game that's five or ten years old.

Regardless of Sony's BC, Microsoft has set up a situation where publishers have a way to sell software that people would otherwise skip.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: MMaRsu on October 14, 2020, 11:22:54 AM
I would like to see Ninja Gaiden 2 and Red Dead Redemption running on a series x and see how they perform
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: HardcoreRetro on October 14, 2020, 11:40:03 AM
Red Dead Redemption is already 4K/30 on the Xbox One X. Ninja Gaiden 2 was boosted to a locked 60 fps and a 9x resolution increase.

"The original runs at just 1120x585 but on Microsoft's enhanced console, the resolution sees a 9x boost to 3360x1755."
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 14, 2020, 11:42:16 AM
can they do 60 on rdr if rockstar don't patch it :huh
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: HardcoreRetro on October 14, 2020, 11:48:54 AM
The Fallout 4 framerate increase seems to be done on Microsoft's end. So it depends on which games they decide to work on.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: mormapope on October 14, 2020, 12:40:59 PM
If the framerate is unlocked: Series S/X will enhance performance on its own.

If the framerate is locked: Microsoft has to patch and update on their end.

Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Svejk on October 15, 2020, 11:05:58 AM
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Day One Xbox Series X|S Optimized Titles 

    Assassin’s Creed Valhalla (Smart Delivery)
    Borderlands 3 (Smart Delivery)
    Bright Memory 1.0 
    Cuisine Royale (Smart Delivery)
    Dead by Daylight (Xbox Game Pass + Smart Delivery)
    Devil May Cry 5: Special Edition 
    DIRT 5 (Smart Delivery)
    Enlisted 
    Evergate
    The Falconeer (Smart Delivery)
    Fortnite 
    Forza Horizon 4 (Xbox Game Pass + Smart Delivery)
    Gears 5 (Xbox Game Pass + Smart Delivery)
    Gears Tactics (Xbox Game Pass + Smart Delivery)
    Grounded (Xbox Game Pass + Smart Delivery)
    King Oddball (Smart Delivery)
    Maneater (Smart Delivery)
    Manifold Garden (Smart Delivery)
    NBA 2K21
    Observer: System Redux
    Ori and the Will of the Wisps (Xbox Game Pass + Smart Delivery)
    Planet Coaster (Smart Delivery)
    Sea of Thieves (Xbox Game Pass + Smart Delivery)
    Tetris Effect: Connected (Xbox Game Pass + Smart Delivery)
    The Touryst (Xbox Game Pass + Smart Delivery)
    War Thunder (Smart Delivery)
    Warhammer: Chaosbane Slayer Edition 
    Watch Dogs: Legion (Smart Delivery)
    WRC 9 FIA World Rally Championship (Smart Delivery)
    Yakuza: Like a Dragon (Smart Delivery)
    Yes, Your Grace (Smart Delivery)
https://kotaku.com/therell-be-31-xbox-series-x-s-optimized-games-on-day-on-1845380025
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: MMaRsu on October 15, 2020, 11:30:37 AM
Yikes
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: mormapope on October 15, 2020, 11:37:36 AM
Yikes

???
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on October 15, 2020, 11:58:13 AM
Knowing 343i HALO MCC is probably the only game that crashes in backwards compatibility mode  :neogaf
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: BisMarckie on October 15, 2020, 12:12:20 PM
Yikes

The era of big launch games to sell systems is over. Why dump resources into a game you try to shove out the door for launch, if the core audience who a launch is aimed at, will buy the system anyway. :trumps

Low key hoping that the Demon‘s Souls remake is terrible, so that my sealed PS3 copy gains some value. :money
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Akala on October 15, 2020, 12:22:05 PM
I think Dirt 5 is going to get some uplift due to being there out of the gate.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 15, 2020, 12:30:45 PM
Dude that list is garbage. I’m sorry. Like what is exciting about this launch? I read your guy’s posts and it seems the only thing any of you are excited about is playing already released games. But then wouldn’t a PC better serve that? What is making any of you buy the Series X right out the gate? I’m genuinely curious.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: BisMarckie on October 15, 2020, 12:38:29 PM
Dude that list is garbage. I’m sorry. Like what is exciting about this launch? I read your guy’s posts and it seems the only thing any of you are excited about is playing already released games. What is making any of you buy the Series X right out the gate? I’m genuinely curious.
I love wasting money on new shiny things.

Would have preordered the PS 5 as well, if the window to do so wasn’t like two minutes.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: BisMarckie on October 15, 2020, 12:40:47 PM
Also upscaled 360\OG Xbox games at improved frameratesis like the thing I‘m most interested in. No kidding.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: mormapope on October 15, 2020, 12:42:34 PM
Dude that list is garbage. I’m sorry. Like what is exciting about this launch? I read your guy’s posts and it seems the only thing any of you are excited about is playing already released games. But then wouldn’t a PC better serve that? What is making any of you buy the Series X right out the gate? I’m genuinely curious.

I have over 600 Xbox games. Should I rebuy all of those on Steam?
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on October 15, 2020, 12:43:58 PM
I think Dirt 5 is going to get some uplift due to being there out of the gate.
It looked surprisingly good, like the type of arcade racer a platform holder would usually push out for launch.

Yikes

The era of big launch games to sell systems is over. Why dump resources into a game you try to shove out the door for launch, if the core audience who a launch is aimed at, will buy the system anyway. :trumps
HALO was the big one for Microsoft and they botched it. They also rebooted Fable at some point and ran into trouble with the new Forza as well.
Sony definitely had Ratchet delayed because of the situation regarding the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Right as 'next gen' geared up Ubisoft, EA and a bunch of other publishers got into trouble.
Ancel fucked up BG&E2 and Ubi had to delay all their games last FY because Ghost Recon did so terrible. Moving Watch Dogs and other games into this year.
EA had nothing but a Star Wars passion project from one of their smaller devs this year and now a remake of Need for Speed made with a budget of two strings and a pack of gum.
BioWare is still a mess and DICE has joined them in mediocrity. Square Enix bet the farm on a dull Marvel GaaS this year.

Capcom also ran into difficulties with Ono and Resident Evil Village and WB was trying to sell the place until they didn't.
Bethesda sold out to Microsoft and SEGA is... well SEGA. All these publishers are caught in an identity crisis, development transition or business transition.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 15, 2020, 12:44:53 PM
But other then the fact that you already have the disc and the obvious 360/Xbox exclusive like Lost Odyssey or Panzer Dragoon wouldn’t a PC better serve that. Like yes Dead Space at 4K will be nice, but it won’t make it run past 30fps. Also you guys really have time to dig through the backlog. I have a One X, tons of 360 games, and no life. I’ve hardly have time to ever care about BC on these things and when I do replay an old game it is on PC where it can improve the game beyond what the Xbox could do.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nuitangg on October 15, 2020, 12:47:45 PM
Have fun playing Destruction All Stars  :lol
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 15, 2020, 12:54:22 PM
Dude that list is garbage. I’m sorry. Like what is exciting about this launch? I read your guy’s posts and it seems the only thing any of you are excited about is playing already released games. But then wouldn’t a PC better serve that? What is making any of you buy the Series X right out the gate? I’m genuinely curious.

To play the games they are already playing with better graphics, much faster load times, etc.

That's not exciting for everyone, but I don't get why it's so hard to understand.  Do you mostly play short SP games that you stop playing when you are done or something?   Lots of people play the same games for years at a time.

And not everyone likes PC gaming.   Another weird one that I don't get why people don't understand, as if buying a PC and playing games on it is the same experience as buying a console.
I don’t understand it because I’ve never seen people excited for a console to play games they already own. I’ve never seen the sole reason a console is getting praised is the BC.

And yes I mostly play single player games and when I beat them I move unto the next one. Occasionally I’ll replay them if I get the itch, but I’m not playing say Gears of War 5 for years at a time. There’s too many new games to play. I mean it’s taking me forever to finish 20-25 hour games these days. I can’t imagine what would happen if I had a family and bigger responsibilities that I already have. I imagine at that point I’ll only have time for the games I’m really interested in.

And while I am a big proponent for consoles(it almost seems like roles on the bore have switched). PC gaming really is pretty easy. If your an enthusiast and invested in playing old games, I don’t know why you wouldn’t want to have a decent gaming pc on the side. No matter what MS or Sony do, their BC is always going to have limits. And I mostly bring this up because the audience here already also seems to have gaming PCs. Like I don’t view the posters here as people that just play cod or GTA.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 15, 2020, 12:55:10 PM
Have fun playing Destruction All Stars  :lol
Ill be playing Cyberpunk probably on One X first and then PC.

I mean have fun playing whats on the Series X i guess.... I enjoyed a good portion of those games.....when I played them in 2019.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on October 15, 2020, 12:56:46 PM
If you still have original PS4/Xbox One it makes a lot of sense to upgrade now and the jump is huge.

For me as an Xbox One X owner, I already got most of these backwards compatibility improvements but Auto HDR did pique my interest.
I settled on upgrading my PC first with a Ryzen 5800x or 5900x and get an Xbox Series X or PS5 next year.

And I agree with Riotous, every time I want to play CONTROL on my 4k TV the set-up is more difficult than booting up VR even.
Switching sound devices, switching screens, resetting resolutions, syncing controllers and very poor HDR implementation in Windows overall.
And when you are finally playing you forgot to turn off your gazillion chat notifications  ::)

The entire process is just cumbersome and not as easy and carefree as console gaming.
Right now Switch is the smoothest for me, followed by the Xbox One X.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 15, 2020, 01:07:46 PM
Dude that list is garbage. I’m sorry. Like what is exciting about this launch? I read your guy’s posts and it seems the only thing any of you are excited about is playing already released games. But then wouldn’t a PC better serve that? What is making any of you buy the Series X right out the gate? I’m genuinely curious.

I have over 600 Xbox games. Should I rebuy all of those on Steam?
Are you going to replay most of those 600 games? Probably would be pretty to cheap to rebuy the ones you will and clearly money is'nt an issue since you bought 600 xbox games.

But yes for someone like you who is already knee deep in the xbox ecosystem, I guess you might as well buy the next one.

I'm not and they aren't really convincing me to either.

It’s possible I haven’t moved to this new phone/ecosystem like perspective on buying consoles, but instead see buying a new console as kind of a reboot. But my outdated perspective is stuck seeing a consoles for what new things they will have, not BC.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: MMaRsu on October 15, 2020, 01:22:32 PM
Also upscaled 360\OG Xbox games at improved frameratesis like the thing I‘m most interested in. No kidding.

Same

And give me Otogi 1/2 BC you fujckers at Xbox
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Lonewulfeus on October 15, 2020, 01:34:16 PM
I hated fucking around with drivers, I haven’t gamed on a pc since 2013 or so, it’s a lot easier to just slap a disc in the box and let it install and I’m good to go.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Svejk on October 15, 2020, 01:41:14 PM
And I agree with Riotous, every time I want to play CONTROL on my 4k TV the set-up is more difficult than booting up VR even.
Switching sound devices, switching screens, resetting resolutions, syncing controllers and very poor HDR implementation in Windows overall.
And when you are finally playing you forgot to turn off your gazillion chat notifications  ::)

The entire process is just cumbersome and not as easy and carefree as console gaming.
Right now Switch is the smoothest for me, followed by the Xbox One X.
I agree about PC gaming no doubt.  I still do it, but it is a hassle for me, as I need couch gaming to relax; instant gratification... Sitting to game where I work all day, everyday, feels like one of those "you don't eat where you shit" situations. That's just me.

Other than that, the launch lineup for boner looks just as mediocre as PS5.  It is what it is. I'm just glad there's something still coming and options still available.  And for all of us who have already made up their mind which they prefer and will defend it (and point and laugh at the opposition), we at least all have so many more games to play than ever.  BC, 5 year ports, to remade "new" IPs... We have plenty to go around.   :rejoice

Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: mormapope on October 15, 2020, 02:14:37 PM
Heat and sound tests
https://tweakers.net/reviews/8252/3/xbox-series-x-onze-eerste-indrukken-en-tests-meten-is-weten.html

Different tester measured the console at 49 degrees celsius for Dirt 5.

So it runs cooler than the One X and with a cross gen game, sounds maybe a lil bit louder than the One X.

Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: MMaRsu on October 15, 2020, 02:15:34 PM
I hated fucking around with drivers, I haven’t gamed on a pc since 2013 or so, it’s a lot easier to just slap a disc in the box and let it install and I’m good to go.

drivers rlly
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: BisMarckie on October 15, 2020, 03:10:54 PM
Says the guy who has an aneurysm every time a game isn’t released on his preferred store. :girlaff
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on October 15, 2020, 03:11:45 PM
I hated fucking around with drivers, I haven’t gamed on a pc since 2013 or so, it’s a lot easier to just slap a disc in the box and let it install and I’m good to go.

drivers rlly

rlly

Quote
Windows 10 Issues

[World of Warcraft Shadowlands]: When run at frame rates greater than 60 FPS with high display settings, moving characters display minute twitching/stuttering. [200647563]
[Sunset Overdrive]: The game may display random green corruption if Depth of Field is enabled from in-game settings. [2750770]
[Call of Duty - Warzone]: Freestyle does not work. (200593020)
[Forza Motorsport 7]: The curb may display a black strip during a race on certain tracks. [2781776]
[Fortnite]: Blue-screen crash occurs pointing to nvlddmkm.sys when playing the game at 4K resolution. [200645328]
To work around, set the resolution to lower than 4k.
[Zombie Army: Dead War 4][Ansel/Freestyle]: The Ansel & Freestyle tabs are unselectable. [2810884]
You may encounter issues installing the NVIDIA Control Panel from the Windows Store.
[YouTube]: Video playback stutters while scrolling down the YouTube page. [3129705]
[G-SYNC]: With G-SYNC enabled on some Freesync displays, half of the screen goes black. [3133895]
[GeForce RTX 3080/3090]: Samsung G9 49" display goes black at 240 Hz. [3129363]
[Notebook][H-Clone]: With the integrated graphics processor as the clone source, display settings cannot be changed from the NVIDIA Control Panel. [200594188]
[Notebook]: Some Pascal-based notebooks w/ high refresh rate displays may randomly drop to 60Hz during gameplay. [3009452]
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: MMaRsu on October 15, 2020, 03:14:33 PM
Says the guy who has an aneurysm every time a game isn’t released on his preferred store. :girlaff

I mean, I don't have a preferred store?

I just hate forced exclusivity. That's a pretty big difference.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: MMaRsu on October 15, 2020, 03:15:19 PM
I hated fucking around with drivers, I haven’t gamed on a pc since 2013 or so, it’s a lot easier to just slap a disc in the box and let it install and I’m good to go.

drivers rlly

rlly

Quote
Windows 10 Issues

[World of Warcraft Shadowlands]: When run at frame rates greater than 60 FPS with high display settings, moving characters display minute twitching/stuttering. [200647563]
[Sunset Overdrive]: The game may display random green corruption if Depth of Field is enabled from in-game settings. [2750770]
[Call of Duty - Warzone]: Freestyle does not work. (200593020)
[Forza Motorsport 7]: The curb may display a black strip during a race on certain tracks. [2781776]
[Fortnite]: Blue-screen crash occurs pointing to nvlddmkm.sys when playing the game at 4K resolution. [200645328]
To work around, set the resolution to lower than 4k.
[Zombie Army: Dead War 4][Ansel/Freestyle]: The Ansel & Freestyle tabs are unselectable. [2810884]
You may encounter issues installing the NVIDIA Control Panel from the Windows Store.
[YouTube]: Video playback stutters while scrolling down the YouTube page. [3129705]
[G-SYNC]: With G-SYNC enabled on some Freesync displays, half of the screen goes black. [3133895]
[GeForce RTX 3080/3090]: Samsung G9 49" display goes black at 240 Hz. [3129363]
[Notebook][H-Clone]: With the integrated graphics processor as the clone source, display settings cannot be changed from the NVIDIA Control Panel. [200594188]
[Notebook]: Some Pascal-based notebooks w/ high refresh rate displays may randomly drop to 60Hz during gameplay. [3009452]

What is this nonsense even  ???
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on October 15, 2020, 03:18:05 PM
I hated fucking around with drivers, I haven’t gamed on a pc since 2013 or so, it’s a lot easier to just slap a disc in the box and let it install and I’m good to go.

drivers rlly

rlly

Quote
Windows 10 Issues

[World of Warcraft Shadowlands]: When run at frame rates greater than 60 FPS with high display settings, moving characters display minute twitching/stuttering. [200647563]
[Sunset Overdrive]: The game may display random green corruption if Depth of Field is enabled from in-game settings. [2750770]
[Call of Duty - Warzone]: Freestyle does not work. (200593020)
[Forza Motorsport 7]: The curb may display a black strip during a race on certain tracks. [2781776]
[Fortnite]: Blue-screen crash occurs pointing to nvlddmkm.sys when playing the game at 4K resolution. [200645328]
To work around, set the resolution to lower than 4k.
[Zombie Army: Dead War 4][Ansel/Freestyle]: The Ansel & Freestyle tabs are unselectable. [2810884]
You may encounter issues installing the NVIDIA Control Panel from the Windows Store.
[YouTube]: Video playback stutters while scrolling down the YouTube page. [3129705]
[G-SYNC]: With G-SYNC enabled on some Freesync displays, half of the screen goes black. [3133895]
[GeForce RTX 3080/3090]: Samsung G9 49" display goes black at 240 Hz. [3129363]
[Notebook][H-Clone]: With the integrated graphics processor as the clone source, display settings cannot be changed from the NVIDIA Control Panel. [200594188]
[Notebook]: Some Pascal-based notebooks w/ high refresh rate displays may randomly drop to 60Hz during gameplay. [3009452]

What is this nonsense even  ???
The latest release notes with known issues for Nvidia's Drivers  :trumps, the company that does them well.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 15, 2020, 05:21:00 PM
Other then the occasional bad port. For the past 3-4 years or so since I dipped into PC gaming. Playing at a typical desktop has been a very smooth experience.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 15, 2020, 11:45:57 PM
:nope pc gamers

:ohyeah console chads
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: bork on October 16, 2020, 08:23:33 AM
Says the guy who has an aneurysm every time a game isn’t released on his preferred store. :girlaff

I mean, I don't have a preferred store?

I just hate forced exclusivity. That's a pretty big difference.

So do you hate how Mario is only on Nintendo and Halo is only on Microsoft platforms?   :doge

Even when they sell Ubisoft games on other storefronts, you still need Uplay to play those games.  You need EA Origin for their games.  Blizzard.net for their titles and CoD.  I don't see what the difference is-  Epic is just another storefront, and they give away games bullshit-free, too.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on October 16, 2020, 09:11:17 AM
Mario is only on Nintendo platforms because all other platforms do not offer the same magical experience and seamless hardware-software integration  :snob

HALO is only on Microsoft Xbox PC because 343 can't even make it run on one platform :heyman
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: MMaRsu on October 16, 2020, 12:26:38 PM
Says the guy who has an aneurysm every time a game isn’t released on his preferred store. :girlaff

I mean, I don't have a preferred store?

I just hate forced exclusivity. That's a pretty big difference.

So do you hate how Mario is only on Nintendo and Halo is only on Microsoft platforms?   :doge

Even when they sell Ubisoft games on other storefronts, you still need Uplay to play those games.  You need EA Origin for their games.  Blizzard.net for their titles and CoD.  I don't see what the difference is-  Epic is just another storefront, and they give away games bullshit-free, too.

Oh come on bork, stop with the fucking bullshit.

Fucking nonsense what you are writing here. If you dont understand the difference, you're blind or stupid.

Quote
Even when they sell Ubisoft games on other storefronts, you still need Uplay to play those games.  You need EA Origin for their games.  Blizzard.net for their titles and CoD.

Publishers selling their games on other stores, but still needing their own clients is annoying and stupid as fuck. There isn't a single PC gamer who will tell you they rejoice about this.

Publishers locking PC games behind ONE storefront is pushing console like exclusivity bullshit to PC. If you really don't understand why I'd rather have more options than less, then I dont know what to tell you.

Either you are trolling or just being obtuse on purpose.

Dont get me started on this bullshit on a fucking friday night when my weekend has just begun man. Some disengeniuous bullshit you just wrote, and you probably know this yourself.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 16, 2020, 12:33:00 PM
 :doge you just made a rookie error there
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 16, 2020, 12:37:26 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/eDYuGwZ.jpg)

me resisting the urge not to get my troll on
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: MMaRsu on October 16, 2020, 12:38:21 PM
Im sorry boys I cannot take such bullshit on a friday night after a long days work, if he was trolling he did a good job, cant imagine bork being this obtuse
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: MMaRsu on October 16, 2020, 12:38:56 PM
Anyway, they are giving away Xbox Series X in Poland if you buy a new LG TV :doge
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: bork on November 01, 2020, 09:57:42 AM
I didn't see those mmarsu replies until just now  :lol  No, that wasn't a troll- but if you got that triggered by it, don't worry about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W78jqH6skjI
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 02, 2020, 11:44:58 PM
Bought a whole year of gamepass foe 120 euro online.

Not a bad deal!

Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nuitangg on November 03, 2020, 10:18:23 AM
With Microsoft points I'll probably never have to pay for Gamepass again.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Beezy on November 03, 2020, 01:10:22 PM
With Microsoft points I'll probably never have to pay for Gamepass again.
Is there a way to game this system?
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 03, 2020, 01:24:43 PM
Fuuu i waited too long now the X is sold out just S available.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: demi on November 03, 2020, 01:28:02 PM
With Microsoft points I'll probably never have to pay for Gamepass again.
Is there a way to game this system?

Have multiple accounts but if you get caught you're going to naughty jail. Otherwise there is no gaming, just be dedicated and farm those points on PC/Mobile/Xbox as they come up

I casually do the quests on Xbox as they come up and I have enough for a $50 gift card (or less if I wanted to). If you're dedicated you can save up for monthly GPU codes pretty easy I think
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: kingv on November 03, 2020, 02:08:00 PM
Microsoft rewards can be fairly generous if you are dedicated. But it can be a big time sink to remember to do all the stuff.

Biggest thing imo is to use bing on your phone. That’s where most of my points come from personally.


Topic change:

Is anyone getting a new tv for series x? I’m thinking of picking one up since I’m on 1080P today. Thinking of a tcl series 6 or a vizio M series.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: naff on November 03, 2020, 03:00:44 PM
Biggest thing imo is to use bing on your phone.

 :lol
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Lonewulfeus on November 03, 2020, 03:18:52 PM
Microsoft rewards can be fairly generous if you are dedicated. But it can be a big time sink to remember to do all the stuff.

Biggest thing imo is to use bing on your phone. That’s where most of my points come from personally.


Topic change:

Is anyone getting a new tv for series x? I’m thinking of picking one up since I’m on 1080P today. Thinking of a tcl series 6 or a vizio M series.

I just do my searches while doing my daily login shit for warframe and eso, I search 1-20 on bing and 1-34 on edge set to desktop mode.  Takes ~5 minutes per day to do that and the daily set.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: bork on November 03, 2020, 05:55:08 PM
Is anyone getting a new tv for series x? I’m thinking of picking one up since I’m on 1080P today. Thinking of a tcl series 6 or a vizio M series.

Might be worth waiting to see if cheaper TVs with HDMI 2.1 come out next year.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: naff on November 03, 2020, 07:01:48 PM
2020 tcl 6-series does sound pretty great. mini-led sounds like it works well and they support VRR and 120hz despite not fully supporting the hdmi 2.1 spec.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: nudemacusers on November 03, 2020, 07:04:56 PM
Biggest thing imo is to use bing on your phone.

 :lol
would rather pay MS for gamepass tbh :donot
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Mupepe on November 03, 2020, 10:42:50 PM
I like my bing results better than Google.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 04, 2020, 12:01:22 AM
If you like bing install Ecosia as your browser, for every 45 searches they will plant a tree.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: kingv on November 04, 2020, 02:04:54 AM
2020 tcl 6-series does sound pretty great. mini-led sounds like it works well and they support VRR and 120hz despite not fully supporting the hdmi 2.1 spec.

My only hesitation with VRR is that it kind of has that free sync problem where most of the sets seem like it only works in a fairly narrow band of like 48hz to 60hz.

But the TCL 6 is what I think I’m going for. This is made sweeter by the fact my pops said he’d split the cost with me for my Xmas present.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 04, 2020, 05:07:33 AM
If you want all features to work properly for the new consoles the best bet is just to wait for next years models. Not even the LG CX which is said to be the best for gaming doesn't fully support all features.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on November 04, 2020, 07:37:52 PM
Quote
According to an anonymous poster on Reddit, the Xbox Series S is only packing 364GB usable space for games and apps.
:heh
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Don Rumata on November 04, 2020, 07:46:58 PM
Quote
According to an anonymous poster on Reddit, the Xbox Series S is only packing 364GB usable space for games and apps.
:heh
"Hello, my name is Freddy Francesco.
I have enough drive space to store one game with a Day1 patch.
...Do you?"
                                                                             :success
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: remy on November 04, 2020, 08:36:22 PM
Quote
According to an anonymous poster on Reddit, the Xbox Series S is only packing 364GB usable space for games and apps.
:heh

ooft

that sucks. I bumped against 1.5tb on my laptop and i dont even have that many games installed.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 04, 2020, 10:54:49 PM
Should bw more then enough for 1080p assets

PS5 on the other hand...
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 05, 2020, 03:28:06 AM
364GB is incredibly low in a world were the rumors are something like Cold War is 100+ Gigs. Storage is one my concerns in general with both consoles.  But hopefully as we go on storage solution prices continue to go down.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 05, 2020, 05:08:15 AM
Shame they shrunk it down from the 250GB that was reported at first.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 05, 2020, 07:12:53 AM
Pulled the trigger on the Series X. I won't get it till Xmass cause I took to long deciding what to get.

Maybe there will be some cancellations, who knows!
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Transhuman on November 05, 2020, 08:29:58 AM
I'm just gonna wait for a console package that includes Halo Infinite
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: MMaRsu on November 05, 2020, 09:37:44 AM
Lol why
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Transhuman on November 05, 2020, 10:04:51 AM
I'm still holding out hope that the MP isn't shit (it probably will be, and then I won't bother buying it).

Not really sure what i'd need an xbox for. Fallout 5? Next Psychonauts? I'll just steal that shit
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 05, 2020, 12:36:47 PM
I'm still holding out hope that the MP isn't shit (it probably will be, and then I won't bother buying it).

Not really sure what i'd need an xbox for. Fallout 5? Next Psychonauts? I'll just steal that shit

:titus
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: kingv on November 05, 2020, 02:24:22 PM
364GB is incredibly low in a world were the rumors are something like Cold War is 100+ Gigs. Storage is one my concerns in general with both consoles.  But hopefully as we go on storage solution prices continue to go down.

I think there will be some pressure this gen for devs to shrink their games.

Like warframe they recently shrunk it by like 50%
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 05, 2020, 04:39:25 PM
for real and make the patches more reasonable, nba2k21 dropped a fucking 22 gig patch on xbox yesterday (i think it was 15 or so on ps4).

all they added was swapping the nike logo for the jordan logo to the away jerseys and a few updated faces from what i could tell, which shouldnt be almost 1/3 of the overall file size :rage
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: bork on November 06, 2020, 07:39:42 AM
https://twitter.com/Walmart/status/1324431758901846028

:tocry
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: demi on November 06, 2020, 10:23:56 AM
Breeders  :-X
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: MMaRsu on November 06, 2020, 10:37:05 AM
Breeders  :-X

Dont you want a little demi running around and unlocking achievements left and right

you can teach him to be a achievement hunter like his daddy
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Transhuman on November 07, 2020, 01:40:33 AM
https://twitter.com/Walmart/status/1324431758901846028

:tocry

Is that guy in the ad supposed to remind me of me? I didn't have a baby when I bought my xbox 360 lol
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 08, 2020, 04:46:34 AM
So my XSX is arriving Tuesday (maybe) if Amazon Japan doesn’t poop the bed, which it very may will, what games that ran like doodoo on Xbone are gonna be real fuckin good on this new refrigerator-sized beast?
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 08, 2020, 04:54:29 AM
I imagine all the Xbox exclusi... pfffft HAHAHAHAAHAHAA.

(It runs GTA4 at 60 fps now.)

Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: MMaRsu on November 08, 2020, 05:30:09 AM
Does it really run gta 4 at 60fps?? 😱😱😱
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 08, 2020, 05:36:45 AM
Richard Leadbetter revealed GTA IV ran complete locked 60 frames per second without a single frame-drop anywhere to be seen from his analysis video. Richard also reveals the game takes advantage of the new auto-HDR technology as well.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: brawndolicious on November 08, 2020, 05:40:04 AM
So my XSX is arriving Tuesday (maybe) if Amazon Japan doesn’t poop the bed, which it very may will, what games that ran like doodoo on Xbone are gonna be real fuckin good on this new refrigerator-sized beast?

Probably any Ubisoft game that came out in the last 6 years. I think only Far Cry 4 and AC: Black Flag had a locked framerate but those were ports from the previous gen. Also some first party stuff got an upgrade like Gears 5, Ori, Forza Horizon 4, etc but they had at least decent performance on the xbone. Other games with notable boosts to visual detail are Ark: Survival Evolved and No Mans Sky with Witcher 3 having a patch planned for sometime in the future but it's CDPR so who knows when that is.

Personally, I've been saving RDR2 because those load times can be proper dookie.

I dunno, are you looking for a game that is basically the same but with smoothed out performance/4K resolution or do you mean the games that the developers went back and jacked up the details? It looks like the only ones getting an upgrade from the developers are games that still have an active player base.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 08, 2020, 05:42:22 AM
Seen a video where the loading time from RDR2 was cut from 1 minute 40 to just 40 seconds.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 08, 2020, 08:54:46 PM
So my XSX is arriving Tuesday (maybe) if Amazon Japan doesn’t poop the bed, which it very may will, what games that ran like doodoo on Xbone are gonna be real fuckin good on this new refrigerator-sized beast?

Probably any Ubisoft game that came out in the last 6 years. I think only Far Cry 4 and AC: Black Flag had a locked framerate but those were ports from the previous gen. Also some first party stuff got an upgrade like Gears 5, Ori, Forza Horizon 4, etc but they had at least decent performance on the xbone. Other games with notable boosts to visual detail are Ark: Survival Evolved and No Mans Sky with Witcher 3 having a patch planned for sometime in the future but it's CDPR so who knows when that is.

Personally, I've been saving RDR2 because those load times can be proper dookie.

I dunno, are you looking for a game that is basically the same but with smoothed out performance/4K resolution or do you mean the games that the developers went back and jacked up the details? It looks like the only ones getting an upgrade from the developers are games that still have an active player base.

The former. I feel like there are a bunch I missed out on
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: BisMarckie on November 09, 2020, 08:53:23 AM
Got my Xbox Series X today, just have to pick up the package later today.  I am already living that next gen life brehs :vr
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on November 09, 2020, 10:15:37 AM
There was one store left that hadn't taken pre-orders and they started today.
Again instantly sold out.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: demi on November 09, 2020, 10:55:47 AM
I think I'm not getting mine until a couple weeks out since I picked bum ass free shipping on Amazon

rip
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 09, 2020, 11:06:06 AM
:hitler
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: BisMarckie on November 09, 2020, 11:18:31 AM
Next gen life update: Have to rearrange some stuff. This thing is fucking huge. Huge is not the right word, more like oddly shaped. :doge
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: BIONIC on November 09, 2020, 11:38:43 AM
Suxbox lmao
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 09, 2020, 11:48:14 AM
xbitches lmfao :heh
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on November 09, 2020, 12:29:29 PM
Next gen life update: Have to rearrange some stuff. This thing is fucking huge. Huge is not the right word, more like oddly shaped. :doge
All that power :rejoice
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: mormapope on November 09, 2020, 01:10:08 PM
I think I'm not getting mine until a couple weeks out since I picked bum ass free shipping on Amazon

rip

Nah, I have Prime and have two day shipping selected and my shit is still on order received. It's not a shipping thing, it's us getting bung-raped for an unknown reason right now.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nuitangg on November 09, 2020, 02:37:58 PM
Microsoft store coming through.  :preach
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: brawndolicious on November 09, 2020, 05:59:13 PM
Fun stuff:

https://www.trueachievements.com/n43838/my-xbox-story

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Quote
(https://i1.trueachievements.com/infog-story/116211.png)
[close]

You can tell when someone entered the workforce by seeing when they stopped having two week gaming binges.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on November 09, 2020, 06:30:04 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://i1.trueachievements.com/infog-story/940928.png)
[close]
:neo

You can really tell how shit the Xbox One was compared to the 360 and plot the games accordingly.

2014: Destiny / Forza Horizon 2 / HALO MCC
April 2015: Quantum Break
September 2016: Forza Horizon 3

Then from July 2018 when I got the Xbox One X I catched up on all the good stuff that was finally released plus new games like Resident Evil 2: Remake.

Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: mormapope on November 09, 2020, 07:13:20 PM
So Amazon sent me an email that they'll try to get one to me before 12/31. Was really looking forward to this.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: demi on November 09, 2020, 07:23:43 PM
Oof. What was your order status? Still "We will email you more info"?

Mine hasn't updated yet, still says "Arriving Nov 19 - Nov 24"
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: mormapope on November 09, 2020, 07:29:26 PM
It was on order received, "we will email you more info" basically yeah, for order status, no delivery date, I haven't been charged.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: demi on November 09, 2020, 07:31:40 PM
Mine said that, then it updated with the dates. No charge or emails though
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 09, 2020, 07:42:15 PM
apologizes for the ign link  :-\

https://www.ign.com/articles/amazon-xbox-series-x-pre-order-delay-december
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on November 09, 2020, 07:45:16 PM
I only buy cheap shit from Amazon.

Not sure how it is in the US but here Amazon is absolutely garbage.
Their website is garbage, their product listings are wrong all the time and you constantly have to check if you're actually buying from Amazon or some affiliated seller.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: kingv on November 09, 2020, 07:54:03 PM
My Amazon preorder shipped.

Amazon k8nd of has that problem here, but I preordered from them because nobody else’s website worked
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: mormapope on November 09, 2020, 09:20:13 PM
Well, it's going to be my personal mission to leave the first  1 * review on Amazon tonight. I assume all of us bung raped bresthren will be feisty.

Gonna try to get a newegg pre-order Tonite.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: mormapope on November 10, 2020, 12:14:56 AM
Used stock informer to get an order thru Microsoft. Gamestop has bundles that on average cost $800+ dollars. Hoping Microsoft comes thru.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 10, 2020, 01:17:29 AM
Amazon Japan is just as fucked. Ordered mine at midnight on preorder day and it has yet to ship, though they charged me. My buddy ordered last week when some more preorders went live on Amazon and he just got his this morning. w/e I'm playing GunCon games now anyway
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: demi on November 10, 2020, 09:14:56 AM
I have a pending charge now on my bank account, but my order hasn't been updated yet
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: demi on November 10, 2020, 12:06:19 PM
Got a shipping email for tomorrow :D
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Beezy on November 10, 2020, 12:10:08 PM
No luck. I might have to try for a PS5 instead. :mjcry
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nuitangg on November 10, 2020, 01:49:57 PM
still updating games :rage
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: bork on November 10, 2020, 02:22:16 PM
https://twitter.com/Bojangles/status/1326153826181779456
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: BIONIC on November 10, 2020, 02:47:26 PM
You were playing with bots
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on November 10, 2020, 02:52:20 PM
Man, Fortnite really is for babies. Barely played it in the past. Hadn't played it in like 9 months and came in 7th on my first game back.

Looks ok I guess. Doesn't look any diff from the One version to me.
Did you enable the VELOCITY ARCHITECTURE?
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nuitangg on November 10, 2020, 04:27:18 PM
These update/upgrades are enormous. 
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nuitangg on November 10, 2020, 04:46:44 PM
I feel like transferring was a waste of time. Its basically redownloading the entire game.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 10, 2020, 09:28:37 PM
 I slammed a bunch of games on my external SSD in anticipation for today's arrival. I hope this works. Expect most of the first day to be updates or literally nothing if Xbox Live is down
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Hamarr on November 10, 2020, 11:30:06 PM
I’m a bit out of the loop.  Is the internal HD 1TB again? And can you use external hard drives like with the XBone?
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: G The Resurrected on November 11, 2020, 01:24:25 AM
I’m a bit out of the loop.  Is the internal HD 1TB again? And can you use external hard drives like with the XBone?

Series games have to be played off internal or expansion slot drive. BC and Xbox one games can be played off external and Series games can be cold storaged on external drives.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: chronovore on November 11, 2020, 01:39:34 AM
Amazon Japan is just as fucked. Ordered mine at midnight on preorder day and it has yet to ship, though they charged me. My buddy ordered last week when some more preorders went live on Amazon and he just got his this morning. w/e I'm playing GunCon games now anyway

PEW PEW!
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Raist on November 11, 2020, 04:56:59 AM
https://twitter.com/Arek_Adamowicz/status/1326449364630462470

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/90/44/e7/9044e72bf1611ab587cd3b915b0bbd39.gif)
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: who is ted danson? on November 11, 2020, 06:11:52 AM
The power of next gen  :rejoice

https://twitter.com/RaveofRavendale/status/1326480885282058240
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 11, 2020, 10:34:52 AM
Couldnt be arsed to wait, and I dont play much, so got a series S.

Things is absolutely tiny.

Btw holy shit at the amount of games in gamepass now that EA is there
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nuitangg on November 11, 2020, 10:48:37 AM
Much better dl speeds today.  Yesterday was fucked.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: demi on November 11, 2020, 11:53:06 AM
Setting it up now  :D
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: mormapope on November 11, 2020, 01:43:17 PM
Getting my ass gaped like this has been a very nice experience. At this point, a big fat black cock is like sticking an anorexic chick into a grave.

Update on the Microsoft order: it's still pending. Update on the Amazon order: nothing.

Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: MMaRsu on November 11, 2020, 02:29:37 PM
have fun demi enjoy it!!

And lets hope mormapope gets his delivered soon  :rejoice
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Beezy on November 11, 2020, 04:13:58 PM
Getting my ass gaped like this has been a very nice experience. At this point, a big fat black cock is like sticking an anorexic chick into a grave.

Update on the Microsoft order: it's still pending. Update on the Amazon order: nothing.
You wanna sell me whichever one comes later?
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: demi on November 11, 2020, 04:50:21 PM
Setup was quick and easy. I gained some space since it's "smaller" than the XB1 and no more power brick anymore. Even gained some hard drive space since my XB1 was only 500GB. Destiny 2 loads much better - even when loaded off External SSD I was using before, and it's going to get better when the patch is out next month.

Installed Blinx the Timesweeper, Tetris, and can finally start Little Hope.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: mormapope on November 11, 2020, 04:51:53 PM
Getting my ass gaped like this has been a very nice experience. At this point, a big fat black cock is like sticking an anorexic chick into a grave.

Update on the Microsoft order: it's still pending. Update on the Amazon order: nothing.
You wanna sell me whichever one comes later?

Maybe, with how this shit is going, you might be able to walk into a store and buy one by the time mine get shipped  :doge
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on November 11, 2020, 06:23:51 PM
https://twitter.com/Xbox/status/1326662743827468288 (https://twitter.com/Xbox/status/1326662743827468288)

 :pimp
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 11, 2020, 06:44:39 PM
Good job I don’t vape anymore and don’t have an Xbox series x yet :pimp
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 11, 2020, 10:16:29 PM
I have mine. This thing is basically a hyper-steroid-jacked Xbox One. I got last year's C9 OLED on sale and it's arriving Monday, can't wait. Not a lot of difference (aside from frame rate ofc) on my old 1080p LCD panel.

I went to my boss's house yesterday night. He had his from the day before and was raving about it. I was like "Hmm something seems amiss here." He had it plugged into the wrong port on the back of his TV so it was only 1080p. I switched it to the 4K port and turned on HDR. Have you ever seen a man's eyes melt of of their sockets? I have.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Mupepe on November 11, 2020, 10:34:19 PM
Gears Tactics is a lot of goddamn fun.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: mormapope on November 11, 2020, 11:48:33 PM
 :drudge

Amazon order has changed to arriving Saturday, but my debit card has not been charged. I might try to get a PS5 tomorrow locally to use as a bartering tool for an Xbox.  :doge

Not getting pussy for a couple of months and work crushing my desire to live has turned me into a a different kind of tard.

 :goty
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Raist on November 12, 2020, 02:29:03 AM
I went to my boss's house yesterday night. He had his from the day before and was raving about it. I was like "Hmm something seems amiss here." He had it plugged into the wrong port on the back of his TV so it was only 1080p. I switched it to the 4K port and turned on HDR. Have you ever seen a man's eyes melt of of their sockets? I have.


Was he using the composite port or something?

edit: ah, I guess his TV has regular and 2.1 HDMI ports?
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: mormapope on November 12, 2020, 09:12:49 AM
So, uh, trying to cancel my pending Xbox order from Microsoft causes an error and I'm told to chat with customer support. I don't have a tracking number, no shipping status, but can't cancel? My card was charged, then went to pending, and now the pending charge has disappeared completely.

Using some virtual chatter thing, it told me I have made no refundable purchases in the past 365 days.

 :doge
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nuitangg on November 12, 2020, 09:22:41 AM
Quick resume is pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: demi on November 12, 2020, 10:26:28 AM
:drudge

Amazon order has changed to arriving Saturday, but my debit card has not been charged. I might try to get a PS5 tomorrow locally to use as a bartering tool for an Xbox.  :doge

Not getting pussy for a couple of months and work crushing my desire to live has turned me into a a different kind of tard.

 :goty

It's a shame you're getting fucked and I'm not the one to do it
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nuitangg on November 12, 2020, 02:06:12 PM
Cod seems to be crashing my Xbox.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 12, 2020, 03:47:47 PM
Just switching between playing Gears Tactics and Battlefield 5

Casual gamer heaven
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: G The Resurrected on November 12, 2020, 05:47:48 PM
Amazon strikes again!

(https://i.ibb.co/mzMVvbx/5-AD444-FF-6-C76-4380-B2-DB-3-E068040-FC93.jpg)

So I should just assume UPS jacked my shit right?
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: chronovore on November 12, 2020, 08:54:10 PM
If there was ever any doubt that Sho Nuff is a prince among men, when his Xbox series X arrived, he immediately packed up his Xbox One, including a controller and an HDMI cable, and sent them to me as a present.

What a magnificent beast!

:rejoice
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 13, 2020, 12:21:51 AM
This is actually a curse, because I've opened you up to a new world of time-wasting (especially if you get Game Pass, oofta)
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on November 13, 2020, 02:55:25 PM
Digital Foundry did the big one.

Xbox Series X | S | PC ray tracing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BN_wjO2M9Q

- RT Settings used on console are partly lower than the lowest setting the PC allows in the menu
- RTX 2060 (Super) beats Xbox Series X at a higher resolution and destoys it with DLSS on
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: mormapope on November 13, 2020, 05:26:55 PM
Cod seems to be crashing my Xbox.

Cold War on my One X has made it shutdown two or three times. I think these Fall games are fucking bugged up beyond belief.

My Series X has been shipped from Amazon and should arrive tomorrow.  :doge
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nuitangg on November 13, 2020, 07:30:15 PM
Double check your Cold War version when you get your Series X.  I was using the wrong version :lol  Haven't had a crash since.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 13, 2020, 08:38:59 PM
There’s the right way to do a game via Smart Delivery, and there’s the Activision way that wrings more cash out of you and confuses everyone.

Apparently Modern Warfare and Warzone both behave correctly, Cold War does not. KINDA want that game, but curious what the difference between Series X and One X are. (I want high frame rate bad)
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: G The Resurrected on November 13, 2020, 09:53:37 PM
I wanted to join in the new gen fun...

Amazon and UPS conspired against me.

(https://i.ibb.co/16jLh6S/7-E739885-4562-420-F-88-F2-C5629-A1-CA7-A5.jpg)
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 13, 2020, 10:06:33 PM
Suffer like G did  :'(
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 13, 2020, 10:47:03 PM
G’s blood stains...
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Tasty on November 13, 2020, 11:16:05 PM
As good an excuse as I'll get to post this video uploaded today by *official channel SEGA Forever. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqJZ8CtXdVs
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 14, 2020, 10:41:39 AM
Digital Foundry did the big one.

Xbox Series X | S | PC ray tracing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BN_wjO2M9Q

- RT Settings used on console are partly lower than the lowest setting the PC allows in the menu
- RTX 2060 (Super) beats Xbox Series X at a higher resolution and destoys it with DLSS on

Uuuh so?
Title: Mostly speaking about graphical power
Post by: Tasty on November 14, 2020, 10:52:04 AM
Digital Foundry did the big one.

Xbox Series X | S | PC ray tracing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BN_wjO2M9Q

- RT Settings used on console are partly lower than the lowest setting the PC allows in the menu
- RTX 2060 (Super) beats Xbox Series X at a higher resolution and destoys it with DLSS on

Uuuh so?

PC > consoles reconfirmed for the billionth time? :idont
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 14, 2020, 11:21:21 AM
The graphics card that costs more than the whole console has better performance? :titus
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on November 14, 2020, 12:09:07 PM
As he says in the video, back when they tested Gears of War on Series X at Microsoft they thought it was closer to the RTX 2080 in terms of performance.

The graphics card that costs more than the whole console has better performance? :titus
2060 (S) actually cheaper than a Xbox Series X.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: mormapope on November 14, 2020, 01:32:50 PM
The bubbleboy 9800XGT is actually more powerful than the Xbooty_Sauce 4200DKX inside the Xbox?

Completely invalidates everything about the console.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: MMaRsu on November 14, 2020, 02:24:15 PM
Might as well throw your trashboxes in the dumpsters guys
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: mormapope on November 14, 2020, 04:57:21 PM
Might as well throw your trashboxes in the dumpsters guys

You better be strong like big American, I just got it and it's a hefty boy.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 15, 2020, 01:05:19 AM
Series S is also heavy af. Looks kawaii though.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: MMaRsu on November 15, 2020, 06:07:43 AM
https://youtu.be/5Y9qcXMQg_s
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: G The Resurrected on November 15, 2020, 12:02:08 PM
If anyone see’s Series X’s available in the US let me know...

I’m jealous of the missus new console, it’s a beast.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 15, 2020, 09:32:37 PM
:bow Vincent-sama, give me your calibration knowledge :bow2
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 16, 2020, 03:31:00 AM
(https://iconicphotos.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/images_maninchair.jpg)

Since my XSX was the most generous gift from the nicest person on the planet, I took the opportunity to buy last year's C9 OLED on sale. Setting it up was a nightmare, but OH MY FUCK.

(Note: I'm upgrading from a 15-year-old 42 inch LED)
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on November 16, 2020, 07:54:32 AM
LG OLED is the best TV ever.
My C8 is already  :mouf

It gives all your content(TM) a glow up.
And those blacks  :shaq

One downside though, iMax movie theaters will leave you thinking: "Meh, this looks better at home'
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 16, 2020, 08:16:53 AM
Looking forward to jumping straigth to 8K when my 1080p Sony breaks down in 2027.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: zomgee on November 16, 2020, 08:49:50 AM
Looking forward to jumping straigth to 8K when my 1080p Sony breaks down in 2027.

I'm in the same boat. I'm not getting huge improvements on my console experiences because my TVs are both 1080p.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: MMaRsu on November 16, 2020, 10:28:43 AM
My bravia has a light problem on the right side where its showing extta bright light like a leak or something but eh im planning to buy a new tv next year
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: G The Resurrected on November 16, 2020, 10:43:16 AM
My bravia has a light problem on the right side where its showing extta bright light like a leak or something but eh im planning to buy a new tv next year

Xbr x900e per chance? If so give Sony a call we did when the fald failed again and we started getting light bleeding. Sony sent someone out and replaced it with a x950h 2020 model. At least they stand behind their products unlike Samsung.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 16, 2020, 11:36:31 AM
How are 4K screens nowadays with input lag?

Reason i chose my Sony was the 17ms input lag which was the best you could get really back then.

Dont want to buy anything with loads of lag
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 16, 2020, 11:49:07 AM
LG CX should be the best tv for gaming. That has 13ms input lag.

Seems the 2020 Samsung Qled are at around 10ms input lag.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 16, 2020, 11:58:42 AM
LG CX should be the best tv for gaming. That has 13ms input lag.

Seems the 2020 Samsung Qled are at around 10ms input lag.

Nice! Those are prob 1 class above what Ill be looking at. But still very promising, I remember a few years ago most of these 4k sets where in their 30s/50s apparently.

Like I have a series W8 Sony when W9 was the top.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: demi on November 16, 2020, 01:01:19 PM
Is Tetris Effect supposed to have a tiny playfield?
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 16, 2020, 01:08:05 PM
It most likely has the smaller playfield cause it used to be a VR game. I think you can zoom it in with one of the sticks.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on November 16, 2020, 01:09:08 PM
LG CX should be the best tv for gaming. That has 13ms input lag.

Seems the 2020 Samsung Qled are at around 10ms input lag.

Nice! Those are prob 1 class above what Ill be looking at. But still very promising, I remember a few years ago most of these 4k sets where in their 30s/50s apparently.

Like I have a series W8 Sony when W9 was the top.
My C8 was already about 18ms - 21ms. A lot of problems they had with OLED before (burn-in, input lag etc.) were fixed in time the B7/C7 came out and with the B8/C8 they finally got their motion processing sorted.
So moving on from the C8 they've mostly focused on improving the feature set and connectivity (HDMI 2.1) as opposed to making big changes to the panel itself.

Here you can see just how small the difference is:
https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/lg-c8-vs-lg-cx/600/10619?usage=11114&threshold=0.1 (https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/lg-c8-vs-lg-cx/600/10619?usage=11114&threshold=0.1)
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: kingv on November 17, 2020, 01:02:53 AM
I’m picking up a tcl series 6 2020 version.

The OLED was a little rich for my blood... considering I’m picking up some Sonos shit as well
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: G The Resurrected on November 17, 2020, 12:18:00 PM
I’m picking up a tcl series 6 2020 version.

The OLED was a little rich for my blood... considering I’m picking up some Sonos shit as well

I hope you are going for the Arc. I recently got rid of my vizio elevate (Dolby Atmos system) and replaced it with the Arc, best decision I’ve made all year.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: kingv on November 17, 2020, 02:27:34 PM
I’m picking up a tcl series 6 2020 version.

The OLED was a little rich for my blood... considering I’m picking up some Sonos shit as well

I hope you are going for the Arc. I recently got rid of my vizio elevate (Dolby Atmos system) and replaced it with the Arc, best decision I’ve made all year.

I actually ended up going for the old play bar. My living room is super fucked proportion wise so I know the atmos won’t work well.

And I got it for a song, like cheaper than the beam. Planning to pick up the sub on Black Friday, and some of the ikea Sonos speakers for surrounds.... and maybe one or two of the lamps.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: archnemesis on November 18, 2020, 02:55:29 AM
I have three Sonos speakers and I'll probably pick another two within a year. If you subscribe to Spotify/Apple Music or listen to podcasts then they are super convenient.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: kingv on November 18, 2020, 01:37:45 PM
Yeah, they are a little pricey, but the idea of being able to get a speaker in every room is a good one
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: BIONIC on November 18, 2020, 01:52:32 PM
More like Soros  :tinfoil
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on November 18, 2020, 02:10:32 PM
It took some tinkering but I managed to connect my Philips Hue with Google Home and Sonos.

So now I can say: "Hey Google, turn on the lights and play Linkin Park" like Batman  8)
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 18, 2020, 03:11:10 PM
Batman would never say that
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: BIONIC on November 18, 2020, 04:34:38 PM
Batman would never say that

Counter-point: Battinson totally would.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: kingv on November 19, 2020, 03:26:02 AM
Got my Playbar today. Huge upgrade over my TV speakers.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 19, 2020, 10:52:10 AM
And give no one a spot to talk about their favourite Xbox exclusive games?
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: naff on November 19, 2020, 04:30:52 PM
Digital Foundry did the big one.

Xbox Series X | S | PC ray tracing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BN_wjO2M9Q

- RT Settings used on console are partly lower than the lowest setting the PC allows in the menu
- RTX 2060 (Super) beats Xbox Series X at a higher resolution and destoys it with DLSS on

that is actually p interesting considering the gpu they used is (in raw flops) nearly half as powerful as the series x chip. dem tensor cores and DLSS doing some heavy lifting. kinda savage they made the comparison. RDNA 2 getting shat on.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: naff on November 19, 2020, 04:44:43 PM
im sure the RT implementation will get better though, and even building a machine with a (relatively) cheap 2060 super is going to end up costing you twice what a series x costs, and eventually what the series x achieves graphically will outstrip the 2060 super at least. should really be more on par with a 2080 ti.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on November 19, 2020, 07:17:34 PM
im sure the RT implementation will get better though, and even building a machine with a (relatively) cheap 2060 super is going to end up costing you twice what a series x costs, and eventually what the series x achieves graphically will outstrip the 2060 super at least. should really be more on par with a 2080 ti.
From what I've seen so far I'm really starting to doubt this, unless AMD figures out DLSS without the need for additional hardware but in the end Xbox Series X pretty much runs games at a certain 'PC setting'.
But I have a feeling Cerny is going to beat Microsoft in that race with DLSS and that's why Sony isn't using the RNDA 2.0 spec like Microsoft is but their own graphics API instead, they already had that checkerboarding thing pretty well implemented a few patents hinting at improvements of that :thinking

Where I think the Xbox Series X will pull ahead is VRAM. The 2070 Super, 3070 etc. are all stuck on 8GB of VRAM and that's not going to cut it for 4K down the line.
However, Xbox Series X doesn't hit native 4K in many new games yet either when ray tracing is involved so we'll have to see how that plays out.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: naff on November 19, 2020, 08:08:14 PM
you've seen the same as us and what we've seen is jack shit. we're barely out of the starting gate, give it time
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: benjipwns on November 19, 2020, 08:10:49 PM
that's why Sony isn't using the RNDA 2.0 spec like Microsoft is but their own graphics API instead
I thought you said Microsoft is using their own graphics API, DirectX.
More often then not Sony's own custom graphics API is better optimized than vanilla DirectX that Microsoft runs.
:teehee
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Beezy on November 28, 2020, 11:08:45 AM
Finally got a Series X for store pick later this week at Best Buy. No shitty bundles, no insane resale. :rejoice
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: brawndolicious on November 28, 2020, 03:37:53 PM
Same for me, hope BB didn't shit the bed and oversell.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Transhuman on November 30, 2020, 04:30:26 AM
(https://iconicphotos.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/images_maninchair.jpg)

Since my XSX was the most generous gift from the nicest person on the planet, I took the opportunity to buy last year's C9 OLED on sale. Setting it up was a nightmare, but OH MY FUCK.

(Note: I'm upgrading from a 15-year-old 42 inch LED)

42 inch LED not good enough for you anymore pretty boy? I bet you you've even started using motion-interpolation now too
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: who is ted danson? on November 30, 2020, 08:27:02 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psTunlgKOMM

 :whoo

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(too bad it doesn't have a disc drive  :fbm)
[close]
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nuitangg on November 30, 2020, 12:32:19 PM
I'm an idiot about these things but would it be possible to add a drive to the Series S?
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Rufus on November 30, 2020, 01:30:04 PM
Nope, not even an external.

edit: Somehow thought you were talking about a disc drive.  :neogaf
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: brawndolicious on November 30, 2020, 02:53:11 PM
You can add a USB hard drive and run any Xbox One/Xbox360/original xbox games off of it.

For new Xbox Series games, the external hard drive could also be used purely for storage but to run the Xbox Series games, you would have to copy the file to your internal SSD.

There's also that $200 1TB Seagate drive that you could use to increase the "internal" volume but it's a ripoff, the price will probably go down massively in a year when the Seagate exclusivity period runs out.

To answer your question, you can keep whatever games you're not playing everyday on a USB drive and then transfer them to the internal when you're ready to play them. It probably takes 10-20 minutes to transfer a game over.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nuitangg on November 30, 2020, 05:49:22 PM
I was talking about a disc drive. Sorry you had to type all that  :lol
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: G The Resurrected on December 01, 2020, 11:21:30 AM
I was able to order a series X on Bestbuy but it’s back ordered now...  When I ordered it they said it would be in store on the 1st, now it’s got no date.  :-\

Missus is over there in quick resume heaven playin Yakuza. The update fixed the issues with the new feature and it’s really impressive.

Heads up if you are looking for a BC drive/cold storage or wanna shuck

WD Black 2tb ssd external $208 (showed $199)
 https://www.adorama.com/wd3s1bbkwesn.html (https://www.adorama.com/wd3s1bbkwesn.html)

Usb disc drives aren’t recognized at the system level on the Xbox One os, but could be in software in the future if someone took the time (in dev mode.) The OS only allows signed drives and they are serial locked, same with Sony and the PS5. Funny thing is Sony could sell a UHD upgrade with drive and plastic shell since the cable for the drive is in the digital edition.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 01, 2020, 12:40:19 PM
Missus is over there in quick resume heaven playin Yakuza. The update fixed the issues with the new feature and it’s really impressive.

That's good to hear. Yakuza was crashing almost every time for me when coming out of Quick Resume.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Rufus on December 01, 2020, 03:28:45 PM
I was talking about a disc drive. Sorry you had to type all that  :lol
I'm not dumb after all. :rejoice

That being said, a cursory search suggests it won't work.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: G The Resurrected on December 12, 2020, 12:02:23 PM
After weeks of dealing with Amazon and UPS I finally got my claim filled on my launch Xbox Series X earlier this week. That mess has been a nightmare to deal with. FedEx just delivered a Series X overnight though and I’m getting it setup now. I did not expect that today at all, Thanks good guy M$ and team Xbox!

I went to install some games and fuck there isn’t a lot of space on this thing. I feel that there was more space on the Xbox One X than the Series X.

Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: demi on December 12, 2020, 12:17:26 PM
Plenty of space, stop being a weirdo and installing everything
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: naff on December 12, 2020, 05:05:13 PM
Plenty of space, stop being a weirdo and installing everything

fucking aye. why do these nerds need to install everything at once
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: HardcoreRetro on December 12, 2020, 05:22:08 PM
*Looks at the 8 games he has installed that already max out the PS5 hard drive*

I wish I could install everything at once.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: G The Resurrected on December 12, 2020, 05:45:11 PM
Ok so how many games is too many games then? My consoles free storage was 670gb after updates in the alpha ring.

I occasionally play several live games:

Apex 86gb
CoD Modern Warfare 162gb
Forza Horizon 4 84gb
Hitman 2 20gb

Total: 352gb leaving a total of 314gb roughly 47% free

Now include the new games I’m installing to play through:

CoD Bo Coldwar 146.5gb
Dirt 5 72.5gb
Yakuza: Like a Dragon 37gb
Cyberpunk 2077 59gb

That’s 8 games which seems like a lot less than the advertised space and listed 802gb of space the console should have available. Granted those new games will be finished and no longer installed, some of them are longer commitments. I’m just saying it feels like less space is all because it is less space. Thankfully there is a solution available today for that, unlike the PS5.

The PS5 is even worse off, but thankfully I don’t have as large of a library of games for it to play.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Beezy on December 12, 2020, 06:31:48 PM
Install your Xbone games to an external SSD and you'll still get great load times without breaking the bank on that overpriced Xbox Seagate SSD.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: G The Resurrected on December 12, 2020, 06:46:05 PM
Yeah I’m gonna build one here shortly. I’ve got a spare asus rog enclosure around. That should definitely solve the issue. I ordered a drive that was on sale, but that deal didn’t materialize. The seagate drives are another solution, one I honestly can’t justify at their price.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: brawndolicious on December 12, 2020, 11:06:01 PM
I think I installed like 6 games onto the internal SSD and so far and I've used 46% capacity...it's usable for me but I don't play Modern Warfare which is where a lot of your bloat comes from.

Also unless the game requires it, it's best to just install your multiplayer games onto an external drive. Your load time getting into player lobbies will be capped at what everyone else is using anyways.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 12, 2020, 11:13:23 PM
I will echo “put your games on external USB SSD.”

There’s a thing I don’t get though. Native XSX games NEED to be on the internal storage, but I’m pretty sure I’ve got Destiny/Apex/COD on the external drives, and yet they have the X/S badge on their icons, wouldn’t that indicate they’re native games that need to be on the internal?
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: demi on December 13, 2020, 12:01:53 AM
I have

Destiny 2
DQ11
Yakuza

Plenty of space

Stop playing dogshit like CoD
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: G The Resurrected on December 13, 2020, 12:12:43 AM
I will echo “put your games on external USB SSD.”

There’s a thing I don’t get though. Native XSX games NEED to be on the internal storage, but I’m pretty sure I’ve got Destiny/Apex/COD on the external drives, and yet they have the X/S badge on their icons, wouldn’t that indicate they’re native games that need to be on the internal?

You can store any game externally. You just won’t be able to play them if they are X/S. I just reformatted my external for the time being.

Demi you’re more than welcome to take my virgin ass through Destiny 2 anytime, I will uninstall CoD just for you. I’m still interested in playing it.


Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: OnlyRegret on December 13, 2020, 07:51:01 PM
Ok so how many games is too many games then? My consoles free storage was 670gb after updates in the alpha ring.

I occasionally play several live games:

Apex 86gb
CoD Modern Warfare 162gb
Forza Horizon 4 84gb
Hitman 2 20gb

Total: 352gb leaving a total of 314gb roughly 47% free

Now include the new games I’m installing to play through:

CoD Bo Coldwar 146.5gb
Dirt 5 72.5gb
Yakuza: Like a Dragon 37gb
Cyberpunk 2077 59gb

That’s 8 games which seems like a lot less than the advertised space and listed 802gb of space the console should have available. Granted those new games will be finished and no longer installed, some of them are longer commitments. I’m just saying it feels like less space is all because it is less space. Thankfully there is a solution available today for that, unlike the PS5.

The PS5 is even worse off, but thankfully I don’t have as large of a library of games for it to play.

lmao, cod trying to colonize hard drives to take up the most space and ensure you never delete it because re-installing takes a day
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: CatsCatsCats on December 17, 2020, 03:05:36 PM
Series X ordered with Walmart :rejoice
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: daycru on December 18, 2020, 02:48:15 AM
XSX is just the best, Microsoft crushed it. Quick Resume is amazing but kind of dangerous. Before QR I would play a game, get bored or frustrated, and stop playing. I’d put the vidya down and go do something else. The barrier of having to quit out, load the next game, wait for the logos and menus, and load my save kept me from endlessly  hopping game to game. Bought my first ever rechargeable batteries because I was ripping through two pairs of Energizers a week  :o
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 20, 2020, 04:35:07 PM
That Hivebusters Gears 5 DLC was pretty solid. Kind of the best Gears content I've played in a while. It was nothing amazing, but Gears 4/5 were so lame to me. Lame weapons, lame story, lame characters ect. Hivebusters pretty much avoided that. Really liked having the characters have abilities, added a real team synergy element. So much so that it's surprising it hasn't been in gears before. Since one character can resupply ammo, it made hanging unto kits you like much easier. Didn't have to settle for the shitty robot guns. The story and characters were whatever, but not having the Gears 4 cast is already an upgrade.

Looked great on my PC and solid on the One X. Should look really good on the series X.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 22, 2020, 03:27:51 AM
Got one of these. I bought one at 5 am when Target dropped. Made an order just in case my GF's didn't go through for her. Her's did, so its up to me if I want to keep it. A One X trades in for about $140 at GameStop and Disc Replay. I guess that doesn't make it too bad as just having access to current Xbox stuff. Haven't opened it yet, instead moving interannly installed games on my One X to the external for easier plug and play unto the Series X. 
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: kingv on December 23, 2020, 12:37:00 AM
You can sell a one x for $200-$250 easy on Facebook marketplace.

Do it tomorrow. Xmas is coming up
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: G The Resurrected on December 23, 2020, 12:48:56 AM
Yeah just piggybacking on what kingv is saying. Xbox one x’s are nigh impossible to find new or used right now.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Hamarr on December 23, 2020, 02:24:27 PM
I have more boomer questions.  Is One X -> Series S much of an upgrade?  I see there are some Series S in stock locally but the S is sold out everywhere.  I’m not in a rush so I could hold out until there are more X’s available, but I’m also not sure I want to spend $500 on a new console.  I’m hoping there will still be decent trade in values for the one X.  This will be the first generation I didn’t have a bunch of games on disk to also sell.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: MMaRsu on December 23, 2020, 02:47:25 PM
I think with the size limit on the Series S it makes more sense to just buy a Series X
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: demi on December 23, 2020, 04:10:18 PM
I have more boomer questions.  Is One X -> Series S much of an upgrade?  I see there are some Series S in stock locally but the S is sold out everywhere.  I’m not in a rush so I could hold out until there are more X’s available, but I’m also not sure I want to spend $500 on a new console.  I’m hoping there will still be decent trade in values for the one X.  This will be the first generation I didn’t have a bunch of games on disk to also sell.

I would just wait for an X if you actually want an X and are in "no rush"

Everything isn't coming out for a long while anyway that will really take full advantage of an X
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: CatsCatsCats on December 23, 2020, 05:32:13 PM
Having to wait until Jan 15 for my Xbox to arrive  :nope
Taking the week after that off with no other plans  :ohyeah
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: MMaRsu on December 23, 2020, 05:42:15 PM
https://youtu.be/xJ5aqx02QDI
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: CatsCatsCats on December 26, 2020, 05:36:47 PM
My Xbox shipped :hyper
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: kingv on December 26, 2020, 06:09:25 PM
I have more boomer questions.  Is One X -> Series S much of an upgrade?  I see there are some Series S in stock locally but the S is sold out everywhere.  I’m not in a rush so I could hold out until there are more X’s available, but I’m also not sure I want to spend $500 on a new console.  I’m hoping there will still be decent trade in values for the one X.  This will be the first generation I didn’t have a bunch of games on disk to also sell.

I would just wait for an X if you actually want an X and are in "no rush"

Everything isn't coming out for a long while anyway that will really take full advantage of an X

I think the only game where the series s is a huge upgrade over one x is Cyberpunk. I’d just wait for series X if that’s what you want.

The biggest deal killer for the S is the SSD being so much smaller. I feel like the 1TB upgrade will be almost a necessity. Whereas you can work with the 1TB on series x a lot more easily
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on December 26, 2020, 07:13:25 PM
Xbox Series S is sort of positioned as a secondary console next to a PS5 or gaming PC or as another Xbox for a different room or location.
It's also a good choice if you don't own a 4K TV set or use a 1440p (or lower res) PC monitor to play games. If you're not gaming in 4K the Xbox Series X won't offer much more.
Storage is an issue but if you're more of a casual player diving into one tentpole release at a time and don't mind redownloading things or moving them from a slower external drive to the main drive this is less of an issue.

From what I'm seeing if you just want to play Cyberpunk 2077, your best bet right now is Stadia or Geforce Now.
But if your internet connection is not up to the task Xbox Series S is the best entry point.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: CatsCatsCats on December 28, 2020, 09:16:52 AM
Bought and set up a new tv this weekend, nothing crazy, 55 in tcl qled, Xbox is out for delivery, we doin next gen today, fam :rejoice

What games do I need to play to be impressed that are on gamepass?
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on December 28, 2020, 09:32:32 AM
Bought and set up a new tv this weekend, nothing crazy, 55 in tcl qled, Xbox is out for delivery, we doin next gen today, fam :rejoice

What games do I need to play to be impressed that are on gamepass?
Depends on what you're upgrading from and what your tastes are.
Looking at what's on GamePass now I would say these are lookers:

- Forza Horizon 4
- DOOM Eternal
- STAR WARS: Jedi The Fallen Order
- CONTROL (Ray Tracing patch won't be out until February though)
- Ori and the Will of the Wisps


Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: CatsCatsCats on December 28, 2020, 10:02:52 AM
Jumping from a shitty old 1080p vizio with the og xbone lol
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: demi on December 28, 2020, 10:04:13 AM
Gears 5 + Hivebuster DLC
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Nintex on December 28, 2020, 12:26:33 PM
Jumping from a shitty old 1080p vizio with the og xbone lol
Then this will be you when you play any of those games  :neo
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 28, 2020, 07:18:55 PM
Forza 7 is the secret best looking game of the PS4/boner gen :shh
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Supermanisdead on December 28, 2020, 07:52:17 PM
Thanks to glorious backwards compatibility, I finally replayed METAL GEAR RISING REVENGEANCE. This game is such a wig omg
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: nudemacusers on December 28, 2020, 08:35:25 PM
forza horizon 4 is incredible looking.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: CatsCatsCats on December 29, 2020, 07:17:47 AM
Played some of that star wars game last night, shits dope, was super tired tho and started falling sleep during the cutscenes and forgetting it was a video game since I’ve been watching so much sci-fi stuff lol

Got a bunch of games queued to download, for some reason the wired connection wasn’t working though. My wifi is decent enough but I wanted to tether my two towers together! (The Xbox looks like a giant version of my router)
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 29, 2020, 07:32:47 AM
I need to redownload and finish off Star Wars at some point, it’s a decent game, even if it is a bit too unchartedy for me at times :trumps
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 29, 2020, 07:37:48 AM
Star Wars is pretty good, I did an hour or two on the XSX and was really impressed

Any Forza game is face meltingly gorgeous, Gears is also holy-shit-looking.

Makes you wonder what other older games with super fucked performance on the old Xbone clean up real good on the new machines.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: CatsCatsCats on December 29, 2020, 09:17:18 AM
Oh I did play some Tetris effect, pretty fun, love me some Tetris
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: brawndolicious on December 30, 2020, 02:06:28 AM
The Gears Hivebuster DLC is maybe the best looking thing I've seen on consoles. It's a separate campaign with unique characters from the main story so you won't spoil anything by playing it.
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: CatsCatsCats on December 30, 2020, 08:22:58 AM
Was playing some beyond light last night, destiny 2 in HDR with the FoV maxed :rejoice:

Really the best part is the loading improvements, my god
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: demi on December 30, 2020, 11:58:03 AM
The HDR in Destiny is fucked up right now
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: CatsCatsCats on December 30, 2020, 05:22:16 PM
Yeah was noticing that today shits fucked just looked okay on europa I guess
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: CatsCatsCats on December 31, 2020, 03:59:34 PM
This console is so fucking good, quiet af too
Title: Re: Xbox Series S and X
Post by: Transhuman on June 21, 2021, 01:23:13 AM
I'm just gonna wait for a console package that includes Halo Infinite

Just realised how dumb this comment was since Halo Infinite multi is F2P :(