You cant post in the other Star Trek thread because some of us don't like the new show, so you need a safe space to talk about it?
What a baby
John D. F. Black's original pitch featured a story about capital punishment. His idea was based on a film treatment detailing the colony planet of Llarof where capital punishment is handed down as a sentence for any offense except against those who are immune from the law. In the treatment, a security officer is killed by a local law enforcement officer, who is then killed himself by his partner for unjustly killing the Enterprise crewman. The planet would have had a rebel faction who wanted to overthrow the laws, which Picard refused to back initially whilst citing the Prime Directive. A second draft featured a rebel leader executed for treason.[1] Black explained the premise of a society that developed laws to prevent terrorism and chaos: "Let's say that what we do is kill everybody who is a terrorist or suspected of being a terrorist. Now the people who have killed everybody, what do they do?"[2]
The idea was re-written by the show's creator Gene Roddenberry and writer Worley Thorne. It was Roddenberry and Thorne who created the godlike entity and sexed up the Edo.
Hoping the mod team will do a better job at not making this thread escalate. Take a proactive stance, you cowards. All the best wishes.
Hoping the mod team will do a better job at not making this thread escalate.
Take a proactive stance, you cowards.
:dayumHoping the mod team will do a better job at not making this thread escalate. Take a proactive stance, you cowards. All the best wishes.
This is a warning to stop shit posting or you will get banned.
Carry on.
I just watched Justice (TNG) and started reading the production details, man the original version before Roddenbery "sexed it up" sounded so much cooler.QuoteJohn D. F. Black's original pitch featured a story about capital punishment. His idea was based on a film treatment detailing the colony planet of Llarof where capital punishment is handed down as a sentence for any offense except against those who are immune from the law. In the treatment, a security officer is killed by a local law enforcement officer, who is then killed himself by his partner for unjustly killing the Enterprise crewman. The planet would have had a rebel faction who wanted to overthrow the laws, which Picard refused to back initially whilst citing the Prime Directive. A second draft featured a rebel leader executed for treason.[1] Black explained the premise of a society that developed laws to prevent terrorism and chaos: "Let's say that what we do is kill everybody who is a terrorist or suspected of being a terrorist. Now the people who have killed everybody, what do they do?"[2]
The idea was re-written by the show's creator Gene Roddenberry and writer Worley Thorne. It was Roddenberry and Thorne who created the godlike entity and sexed up the Edo.
Roddenbery and Lucas might have more parallels than I thought.
meanwhile perfect harmony in the commie cosplay threads :rejoiceOutside of the occasional banter a perfect harmony in pretty much every thread tbh :idont
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
:nope
Let's just have a rule that if you shit up a thread beyond reason you get banned from that thread for a week. No need for all the ado or ceremony or locks.
Let's just have a rule that if you shit up a thread beyond reason you get banned from that thread for a week. No need for all the ado or ceremony or locks.no arbitrary rules please :hmph
Let's just have a rule that if you shit up a thread beyond reason you get banned from that thread for a week. No need for all the ado or ceremony or locks.no arbitrary rules please :hmph
rename this thread to the MOD SUMMIT :klob
No. It’s a complete series.it really isn't and that's the issue that starts arguements
And now this thread is going to shit. OK. Do you guys want me to re-open the old thread? Do we really NEED to have Star Trek threads on here just because some of you can't get along?
I'll re-open if you guys can be respectful of one another.
Sandman, hon, not Trek. Phasers to stunNo. It’s a complete series.it really isn't and that's the issue that starts arguements
Let's just have a rule that if you shit up a thread beyond reason you get banned from that thread for a week. No need for all the ado or ceremony or locks.
I'm not mad posting, just trying to help, the Star Trek thread is about the only thread I post in consistently and kinda want that to continueSandman, hon, not Trek. Phasers to stunNo. It’s a complete series.it really isn't and that's the issue that starts arguements
bork, just chill and stick to a decision, man. No need to worry too much about what's going on. Thread became a shit show because people got really in their feelings over a new show in a decades long brand but they'd have calmed down eventually. Look at Stoney up there deciding he'll make some effort instead of continuing with random ribbing and snark.
Old thread is closed and here's a new thread. It's done. If peeps get in their feelings again they'll cool down eventually. I agree with tasty that the board did get better than where it was like 3 years ago, plus emotions are running high now with corona which means you can let people vent for a bit.
Breaking my last post rule here just because I was responding a person via private message and since it relates I might as well post it here.
The board has always been up and down in quality. I'm not trying to pretend like the board was once in a perfect golden state. But ever since GAF went down imo, the board has increasingly slowly gotten worse and worse when it comes to discussion. I have some guesses as to why that is but they are probably honestly just me trying to blame-scape something when its probably many many factors that contribute to such a thing.
All I know is that what ended up happening is that increasingly I only want to post in a few threads where the people in that thread feel like a community. And everybody can respectfully agree/disagree with each other because they've known each other for some time so you know when a person posts whether you necessarily agree or disagree you can respect that person because you know him and you know he is posting from a real individual perspective. Something has happened over time where now it no longer feels like that. It feels like there are teams. It feels like people post because they want their side to score internet points or likes or whatever. And the discussion now involves those teams fighting each other instead of individual people expressing themselves. And because it feels like you can easily stereotype the other side, it not longer seems worthwhile to actually discuss anything. Because everybody is entrenched in their position or you don't feel like arguing against a team. That is what happened in that Star Trek thread as an example over time for whatever reason. There are two teams and they both constantly try to score on each other. And even if you don't necessarily want to fight as a team, you get drawn into it to support a side because one side seems to pile up the likes to score. That kind of division use to exist mainly in political threads but now every thread feels like that for some reason to me. So its just easier to be an asshole because you know you have backup.
So just to be clear. My issue with this thread is not specifically RLM. Although yeah I do think people should resist the temptation to drop videos all the time, especially from one source as if that video has some extra meaning on a message board. You don't do that on a messageboard. At least all the time. You argue your opinion. You discuss things from your perspective. Not the perspective of one source of one video of people on the internet. I don't care whether its a game, or a book, or a movie. I care about what you have to say about it. Not what random internet video has to say about it. Which is not to say a video may not have a good point or two. But chill with it. I go to the movie review thread to see what you people think about movies. Not Ao scott or peter travers or some other critic. If I want their review I can go get their review from the source.
Now I fully believe that not everybody who hates something is simply apeing their opinion from a video. And I fully understand that people can form their opinion prior and then agree with a video. Cool. Not saying you can't ever post that video. Just maybe recognize that not everybody views that source in that same way you do. I don't want to argue a video like I'm doing homework. I want to discuss things with humans.
The second bit is respect people who disagree with you. Don't talk shit about an opinion likes its fucking math. It's all opinion shit. Respect an opinion. You don't have to be an ass about it. Maybe try to find a little common ground. There are things I like and dislike about everything. But not in this thread it feels like. Everybody is pushed to hate everything or love everything. So some posters end up talking shit 24/7 and its like why are you here if you hate that thing apparently. And I'm sure to others it feels like somebody is praising something 24/7 so it feels like a constant lovefest as if a person can't see the flaws in something.
Some people like Old Trek. Some people like New Trek. Some people like Both. Some people have legit criticisms of both. Cool. Discuss it. Be Respectful.
I say all this realizing I'm as guilty of breaking every single rule I've stated here in the past. So maybe going forward here let's try to actually do that. And I will make a personal legit effort to do the same and drop the snark and attitude so I can legit post in a thread, I use to enjoy.
edit: note this message was written before the thread split or thread closure thing. I was going to post it in whatever was the trek thread(s)
:heartSandman, hon, not Trek. Phasers to stunNo. It’s a complete series.it really isn't and that's the issue that starts arguements
you're not helping, then again you aren't here to help.And now this thread is going to shit. OK. Do you guys want me to re-open the old thread? Do we really NEED to have Star Trek threads on here just because some of you can't get along?
I'll re-open if you guys can be respectful of one another.
Imagine my surprise that this episode was kicked off by a poster of a certain nationality not being able to converse nicely with the other boys and girls. Seems like posters of said nationality are at the root of a lot of these problems, maybe something should be done about that :kermitspoiler (click to show/hide)although tbh I don't even mind nintex that much anymore, he's basically a gimmick poster at this point[close]
So this is the new Trek thread. Please keep it on-topic going forward.I've enjoyed every trek movie I've watched :trumps
For those who just came in here for the drama and feel the need to respond to this with some snarky comment or shitpost following this one, you will get a ban.
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I never watched any of the old ST movies, which ones are good? :idont
I never watched any of the old ST movies, which ones are good? :idont
2, 3, 4, 6.
Maybe TMP Director's Cut.
2 and 6 are the best by far.
which was the one set during modern day with Whales?
I never watched any of the old ST movies, which ones are good? :idont
2, 3, 4, 6.
Maybe TMP Director's Cut.
2 and 6 are the best by far.
Didn't like V?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYW_lPlekiQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ToQ7wAwZ8w
This is actually pretty well done. :lawd
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ToQ7wAwZ8w
This is actually pretty well done. :lawd
Killua's dad was in Star Trek. :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ToQ7wAwZ8w
This is actually pretty well done. :lawd
Killua's dad was in Star Trek. :o
:lol I usually see the opposite comparison, that Killua's dad is Khan. :lol
I never watched any of the old ST movies, which ones are good? :idont
Aren't the TNG movies reviled? Most trekkies I know seem to hate them.given how shit the new ones are I can't imagine they're that bad
Aren't the TNG movies reviled? Most trekkies I know seem to hate them.
May I make a suggestion? No more general trek thread, make a thread for each series (group old and new maybe) and everyone can successfully stay out of each others way. No one is going to go into the Picard thread and just start talking mad shit months after they are done with it for example while people who enjoyed it will stick around.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ToQ7wAwZ8wfor comparison, since it has essentially the same Kirk/McCoy conversation snippet, followed by shots of every single crew member:
This is actually pretty well done. :lawd
That’s a good list, I agree with all of it.
There is something about the original movie that I find compelling though. It’s such an oddly paced movie with weirdo choices in it that I can’t help but watch it every time it’s on (which isn’t often, tbh).
I'm not gonna spam the thread with videos that try to validate my singular viewpoint. That is why the last thread became shit.
For best though, my vote would be still go to one of the Meyer movies, probably Wrath of Khan.
I like Discovery and Picard. I don't like Voyager for instance.
Anyways, apologies to MMrasu. Sorry for calling you names and a snitch. Turns out Nintex is the snitch.
I said I liked Picard. Not love. I love Star Trek and saw many things I like about Trek in it. I don't think it was all that great but it was enjoyable enough for me to get a Star Trek fix. I have plenty of criticisms but enjoy it enough to let them slide.
I like Discovery and Picard. I don't like Voyager for instance.
Ummm please accompany me to discord so I can insult you and your family. I like Picard and Voyager but I don't like Discovery very much.
Honestly, the only thing I dislike about Discovery is the time setting. Think I'm only interested in Trek that pushes the world-building forward.
I'm in a minority in that I liked Enterprises temporal cold war stuff, but it was probably more in the concept than the execution.
There's a fucking great sci fi show waiting to be made based on that premise.
not director's cut/extended cuts:
Star Trek: The Motion Picture - one star
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan - five stars
Star Trek III: The Search for Spock - three stars
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home - three stars
Star Trek V: The Final Frontier - one star
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country - five stars
Star Trek Generations - one star
Star Trek: First Contact - four stars
Star Trek: Insurrection - two stars
Galaxy Quest - four stars
Star Trek: Nemesis - two stars
Star Trek - one star
Star Trek Into Darkness - one star
Star Trek Beyond - three stars
I once was at library where he (Nicholas Meyer) came to give a talk about trek.But have you ever brought him into the courtroom to establish plot details of Star Trek II vs. Star Trek IV?
not director's cut/extended cuts:
Star Trek: The Motion Picture - one star
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan - five stars
Star Trek III: The Search for Spock - three stars
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home - three stars
Star Trek V: The Final Frontier - one star
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country - five stars
Star Trek Generations - one star
Star Trek: First Contact - four stars
Star Trek: Insurrection - two stars
Galaxy Quest - four stars
Star Trek: Nemesis - two stars
Star Trek - one star
Star Trek Into Darkness - one star
Star Trek Beyond - three stars
I'm in a minority in that I liked Enterprises temporal cold war stuff, but it was probably more in the concept than the execution.
There's a fucking great sci fi show waiting to be made based on that premise.
:applauseI'm in a minority in that I liked Enterprises temporal cold war stuff, but it was probably more in the concept than the execution.
There's a fucking great sci fi show waiting to be made based on that premise.
Netflix Travelers has aspects of the concept. It’s a great show.
DS9 is a good show.
“Defiant” with Riker is SUCH a fantastic episode! And then they unfortunately IMMEDIATELY follow up with a Lwaxana episode that also brings Keiko O’Brien at peak shrillness in.
SUCH HIGHS, SUCH LOWS.
Star Trek: Voyager was launched 25 years ago and continues to have a strong fan base, but it never achieved the same level of ratings as its predecessor, Star Trek: The Next Generation.
Bryan Fuller, who had worked on Deep Space Nine before writing for Voyager and eventually becoming a staff writer (then story editor, then co-producer), was the guest on the latest episode of the excellent Inglorious Treksperts podcast to celebrate Voyager‘s 25th anniversary, where he revealed some of the show’s inside drama.
Voyager chasing The Next Generation
Fuller spoke about how from its start, Voyager was “very much a reaction” to the more serialized Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, which had premiered two years before, adding the show was “in some ways an antidote to the vision of Deep Space Nine.” Fuller talked about how Voyager was pulled in different directions, trying to recapture the magic of TNG, while differentiating itself from DS9:
I think Voyager initially was trying to be The Next Generation and finally decided what it was going to be around season four. I think part of that in a strange way is we lost very quickly the dynamics of the Maquis interacting with a Starfleet crew. They were terrorists and committed terrorist acts and everybody was like, “It’s okay, let’s all go together.”… That’s not good storytelling. You need to know these characters are coming from a place that is culturally different, so they can’t just be regular members of the crew which it fell into very quickly to solve the problem of Deep Space Nine.
The podcasters and Fuller acknowledged that eventually Voyager found its voice and delved into some high-concept science fiction ideas. Fuller gave a lot of credit to showrunner Brannon Braga and Braga’s writing partner Joe Menosky, while pointing out their struggles with Voyager co-creator and executive producer Rick Berman:
Brannon Braga should be given a lot of credit – Brannon Braga and Joe Menosky – and it really was their two voices more commonly than anybody else’s. I think what was interesting in the evolution of the show was you could sense the creative struggle. I witnessed the creative struggle when I was working there. There was an appetite for these bigger, bolder science fiction stories. And there was a lot of resistance from Rick Berman in embracing them because he was chasing The Next Generation and was not allowing Voyager to be the show that it could be.
Someone PLEASE tell me I get to see sexy Mirror Universe Kira again. :noah
(https://i.imgflip.com/44v4zm.jpg)This is fantastic.
Yup, there's another Star Trek show coming to TV. But this one’s different! Lower Decks is Star Trek in animated comedy form, marking the first time the venerated 56-year-old brand has launched a pure comedy (no, Star Trek V: The Final Frontier doesn’t count). Writer Mike McMahan says he pitched the concept to CBS All Access by saying, “I want to do a show about the guy who brings the yellow cartridge to the back of the food replicator so that a banana comes out the front.”
If that sort of sci-fi goofing on an animated series brings to mind Rick and Morty, as it so happens, McMahan is a former writer on the Adult Swim hit (which surely didn't hurt his pitch). The animation also looks slightly similar. Yet McMahan says Lower Decks clearly distinguishes itself in a couple of key ways. First, while Lower Decks is aimed at adults, the show is far more PG-13 than R-rated. "It's definitely not a kids show, but only because it's a little bit more complex than a kid show would be," he says. And then, there's the show's entire perspective. “The fun of Rick and Morty is that it breaks down sci-fi tropes and is told through Rick Sanchez, who has a very specific, chaotic, nihilistic lens,” he says. “Lower Decks treats mythological sci-fi things just as important as a regular Trek show, while finding new stories to tell — just from a different angle. It's not disassembling mythological sci-fi things. It's treating them as important for everybody on the starship as it would be in a regular star Trek show."
That angle focuses on the adventures of low-ranking crew members of Starfleet’s USS Cerritos (a name that sells us on watching this show as much as anything). The crew is assigned the less glamorous jobs on a city-size starship while the bridge crew led by a traditionally heroic captain does all the so-called “important” work. “The big stories are happening in the bridge crew and there's more kind of social-emotional stories happening to the Lower Deckers," he says. "So it's like their job and the world they're in get affected by these sci-fi stories. But the funny thing too is that whatever menial job you have to do in Star Trek, it might be something that they do every day, but it's still sort of a fascinating look into stuff that happens onboard that haven't been highlighted in another series. So instead of being on the turbolift — the elevators in Trek — our guys are repairing the turbolift. We also spend a lot of time in the bar. You'll also see the Lower Deckers go on away missions doing things that the bridge crew doesn't have to deal with."
While the focus is on the Lower Deckers, the bridge crew isn't kept entirely distant and anonymous. For instance, the crew sometimes interacts with the captain, Carol Freeman (Dawnn Lewis). "She is sort of trying to do this balancing act that all captains do, where they demand respect and are admired and trusted by the crew, but then they also kind of have to be the bad guy," he says. "And a thing we play with a lot is that the Lower Deckers don't always get all the information they're delegated to, but they don't get to have a voice and they don't get to know the context a lot of the time."
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https://ew.com/tv/star-trek-lower-decks-next-generation/QuoteYup, there's another Star Trek show coming to TV. But this one’s different! Lower Decks is Star Trek in animated comedy form, marking the first time the venerated 56-year-old brand has launched a pure comedy (no, Star Trek V: The Final Frontier doesn’t count). Writer Mike McMahan says he pitched the concept to CBS All Access by saying, “I want to do a show about the guy who brings the yellow cartridge to the back of the food replicator so that a banana comes out the front.”
If that sort of sci-fi goofing on an animated series brings to mind Rick and Morty, as it so happens, McMahan is a former writer on the Adult Swim hit (which surely didn't hurt his pitch). The animation also looks slightly similar. Yet McMahan says Lower Decks clearly distinguishes itself in a couple of key ways. First, while Lower Decks is aimed at adults, the show is far more PG-13 than R-rated. "It's definitely not a kids show, but only because it's a little bit more complex than a kid show would be," he says. And then, there's the show's entire perspective. “The fun of Rick and Morty is that it breaks down sci-fi tropes and is told through Rick Sanchez, who has a very specific, chaotic, nihilistic lens,” he says. “Lower Decks treats mythological sci-fi things just as important as a regular Trek show, while finding new stories to tell — just from a different angle. It's not disassembling mythological sci-fi things. It's treating them as important for everybody on the starship as it would be in a regular star Trek show."
That angle focuses on the adventures of low-ranking crew members of Starfleet’s USS Cerritos (a name that sells us on watching this show as much as anything). The crew is assigned the less glamorous jobs on a city-size starship while the bridge crew led by a traditionally heroic captain does all the so-called “important” work. “The big stories are happening in the bridge crew and there's more kind of social-emotional stories happening to the Lower Deckers," he says. "So it's like their job and the world they're in get affected by these sci-fi stories. But the funny thing too is that whatever menial job you have to do in Star Trek, it might be something that they do every day, but it's still sort of a fascinating look into stuff that happens onboard that haven't been highlighted in another series. So instead of being on the turbolift — the elevators in Trek — our guys are repairing the turbolift. We also spend a lot of time in the bar. You'll also see the Lower Deckers go on away missions doing things that the bridge crew doesn't have to deal with."
While the focus is on the Lower Deckers, the bridge crew isn't kept entirely distant and anonymous. For instance, the crew sometimes interacts with the captain, Carol Freeman (Dawnn Lewis). "She is sort of trying to do this balancing act that all captains do, where they demand respect and are admired and trusted by the crew, but then they also kind of have to be the bad guy," he says. "And a thing we play with a lot is that the Lower Deckers don't always get all the information they're delegated to, but they don't get to have a voice and they don't get to know the context a lot of the time."
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:notlikethis
https://ew.com/tv/star-trek-lower-decks-next-generation/QuoteYup, there's another Star Trek show coming to TV. But this one’s different! Lower Decks is Star Trek in animated comedy form, marking the first time the venerated 56-year-old brand has launched a pure comedy (no, Star Trek V: The Final Frontier doesn’t count). Writer Mike McMahan says he pitched the concept to CBS All Access by saying, “I want to do a show about the guy who brings the yellow cartridge to the back of the food replicator so that a banana comes out the front.”
If that sort of sci-fi goofing on an animated series brings to mind Rick and Morty, as it so happens, McMahan is a former writer on the Adult Swim hit (which surely didn't hurt his pitch). The animation also looks slightly similar. Yet McMahan says Lower Decks clearly distinguishes itself in a couple of key ways. First, while Lower Decks is aimed at adults, the show is far more PG-13 than R-rated. "It's definitely not a kids show, but only because it's a little bit more complex than a kid show would be," he says. And then, there's the show's entire perspective. “The fun of Rick and Morty is that it breaks down sci-fi tropes and is told through Rick Sanchez, who has a very specific, chaotic, nihilistic lens,” he says. “Lower Decks treats mythological sci-fi things just as important as a regular Trek show, while finding new stories to tell — just from a different angle. It's not disassembling mythological sci-fi things. It's treating them as important for everybody on the starship as it would be in a regular star Trek show."
That angle focuses on the adventures of low-ranking crew members of Starfleet’s USS Cerritos (a name that sells us on watching this show as much as anything). The crew is assigned the less glamorous jobs on a city-size starship while the bridge crew led by a traditionally heroic captain does all the so-called “important” work. “The big stories are happening in the bridge crew and there's more kind of social-emotional stories happening to the Lower Deckers," he says. "So it's like their job and the world they're in get affected by these sci-fi stories. But the funny thing too is that whatever menial job you have to do in Star Trek, it might be something that they do every day, but it's still sort of a fascinating look into stuff that happens onboard that haven't been highlighted in another series. So instead of being on the turbolift — the elevators in Trek — our guys are repairing the turbolift. We also spend a lot of time in the bar. You'll also see the Lower Deckers go on away missions doing things that the bridge crew doesn't have to deal with."
While the focus is on the Lower Deckers, the bridge crew isn't kept entirely distant and anonymous. For instance, the crew sometimes interacts with the captain, Carol Freeman (Dawnn Lewis). "She is sort of trying to do this balancing act that all captains do, where they demand respect and are admired and trusted by the crew, but then they also kind of have to be the bad guy," he says. "And a thing we play with a lot is that the Lower Deckers don't always get all the information they're delegated to, but they don't get to have a voice and they don't get to know the context a lot of the time."
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:notlikethis
What captains were bad guys? Aside from the captains on ships we dont follow, those were mostly assholes because the story needed them to be
I already imagine what this show is like
I already imagine what this show is like
What's new?
Half of you already pre-conceive your notions period
I already imagine what this show is like
What's new?
Half of you already pre-conceive your notions period
Every Star Trek fan knows that the actually evil officers in Starfleet don’t stay captains for long at all; they get fast track promoted to Admiral.
Sheesh, next thing you know people will start telling us that Captain Jellico was a villain.
https://streamable.com/ds72si
:mike
I'd rather have a show about O'Brien where it's about his suffering aka Keiko and at the end he divorces that bitch and bums Julian.
I'd rather have a show about O'Brien where it's about his suffering aka Keiko and at the end he divorces that bitch and bums Julian.
https://chiefobrienatwork.com/
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Is this shit supposed to be funny??
Who likes this kind of humor, 12 year olds?
Cmon dont tell me you thought any of that was funny bork
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3RkBKedKWw
:ryker
It looks so awful. They could’ve at least gone the same animation route as the Netflix Castlevanias and make it Trek themed shonen. Still probably wouldn’t care to watch it, but I’d probably detest it less.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3RkBKedKWw
:ryker
https://streamable.com/1cue22
My favorite Vulcan besides Spock and the best character on VOY not named EMH or Seven.
http://sidcity.net/
https://www.youtube.com/c/SidCity/videos
DS9 fanfic sequel by the actual DS9 cast.
https://ew.com/tv/star-trek-lower-decks-next-generation/QuoteYup, there's another Star Trek show coming to TV. But this one’s different! Lower Decks is Star Trek in animated comedy form, marking the first time the venerated 56-year-old brand has launched a pure comedy (no, Star Trek V: The Final Frontier doesn’t count). Writer Mike McMahan says he pitched the concept to CBS All Access by saying, “I want to do a show about the guy who brings the yellow cartridge to the back of the food replicator so that a banana comes out the front.”
If that sort of sci-fi goofing on an animated series brings to mind Rick and Morty, as it so happens, McMahan is a former writer on the Adult Swim hit (which surely didn't hurt his pitch). The animation also looks slightly similar. Yet McMahan says Lower Decks clearly distinguishes itself in a couple of key ways. First, while Lower Decks is aimed at adults, the show is far more PG-13 than R-rated. "It's definitely not a kids show, but only because it's a little bit more complex than a kid show would be," he says. And then, there's the show's entire perspective. “The fun of Rick and Morty is that it breaks down sci-fi tropes and is told through Rick Sanchez, who has a very specific, chaotic, nihilistic lens,” he says. “Lower Decks treats mythological sci-fi things just as important as a regular Trek show, while finding new stories to tell — just from a different angle. It's not disassembling mythological sci-fi things. It's treating them as important for everybody on the starship as it would be in a regular star Trek show."
That angle focuses on the adventures of low-ranking crew members of Starfleet’s USS Cerritos (a name that sells us on watching this show as much as anything). The crew is assigned the less glamorous jobs on a city-size starship while the bridge crew led by a traditionally heroic captain does all the so-called “important” work. “The big stories are happening in the bridge crew and there's more kind of social-emotional stories happening to the Lower Deckers," he says. "So it's like their job and the world they're in get affected by these sci-fi stories. But the funny thing too is that whatever menial job you have to do in Star Trek, it might be something that they do every day, but it's still sort of a fascinating look into stuff that happens onboard that haven't been highlighted in another series. So instead of being on the turbolift — the elevators in Trek — our guys are repairing the turbolift. We also spend a lot of time in the bar. You'll also see the Lower Deckers go on away missions doing things that the bridge crew doesn't have to deal with."
While the focus is on the Lower Deckers, the bridge crew isn't kept entirely distant and anonymous. For instance, the crew sometimes interacts with the captain, Carol Freeman (Dawnn Lewis). "She is sort of trying to do this balancing act that all captains do, where they demand respect and are admired and trusted by the crew, but then they also kind of have to be the bad guy," he says. "And a thing we play with a lot is that the Lower Deckers don't always get all the information they're delegated to, but they don't get to have a voice and they don't get to know the context a lot of the time."
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:notlikethis
Rumor has it patrick stewart isnt happy they turned jean luc picard into a golemPicard should’ve been a limited series bridge to a spin off with that crew, either minus SirPat or dragging back Tom Hardy to play a younger, cloned Picard to redeem himself for Nemesis.
Rumor has it patrick stewart isnt happy they turned jean luc picard into a golemPicard should’ve been a limited series bridge to a spin off with that crew, either minus SirPat or dragging back Tom Hardy to play a younger, cloned Picard to redeem himself for Nemesis.
In layman's terms, the Alcubierre Drive achieves FTL travel by stretching the fabric of space-time in a wave, causing the space ahead of it to contract while the space behind it expands.
In theory, a spacecraft inside this wave would be able to ride this "warp bubble" and achieve velocities beyond the speed of light. This is what is known as the "Alcubierre Metric"....According to White, Alcubierre's theory was sound but needed some serious testing and development. Since then, he and his colleagues have been doing these very things through the Eagleworks Labs.
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:lol fuck that
Did Wesley Crusher create the Borg?Add a link or at least quote tags if you’re gonna do that:
Thanks for the A2A, this will be Gospel according to Bill and by no means Canon. I have been a Trekkie since I was little and my mother brought me up watching reruns and then when we could afford a VCR and the tapes we bought the series and each movie as it came out. I actually really liked each of them for what they were at the time and can still watch any Trek with an eye of nostalgia forgiving the shortcomings that so many of my fellow fans pick apart. All this being said from the moment I saw the Borg arrive on my small screen I shouted V’ger!
For those of you who have not watched “Star Trek the Motion Picture” (first of all shame on you) the premise is (Spoilers) one of the early Voyager probes, specifically Voyager 6, launched with the simplistic commands to learn all that is learnable” and return that knowledge to its Creator. Voyager 6 was lost to deep space not long after its launch and passed out of mankind’s understanding.
The movie suggests that when it did Voyager 6 eventually wound up at a planet of sentient machines who saw it as a cousin of sorts and reading its directive provided it with the mechanism to fulfill that program. When that “new” entity attempts to return to its point of origin it has grown to a massively powerful and entirely non-biologic creature that translates everything it encounters into a kind of digital storage thus furthering its program. Fast forward to the Enterprise having penetrated into the heart of the cloud and reaching the central part of structure and discover the original Voyager 6 probe, they tried to send the command code from Enterprise but V’ger burned out the antenna purposely wanting the “Creator” to come in person and enter the command personally “to touch God”
Seeing the Borg at first glance I remembered this scene where Commander Will Decker “merged” with Ilia who had been co-opted by V’ger as a way to communicate with the Carbon Based units “infesting” Enterprise.
At first encounter the Borg Drones were not interested in the crew at all they only scanned the new Enterprise and did not interact with the crew until they tried to stop the Borg from taking data from the computers.
So My TLDR to did Wesley Crusher create the Borg is NO. Will Decker and V’ger did.
This is amazing
https://youtu.be/BZlRt05RY9Y
"back off! back off!" and "fly her apart then!" are two of my favorite lines
"back off! back off!" and "fly her apart then!" are two of my favorite lines
"FLY HER APART THEN" Until that point I never thought I'd call Sulu badass but he shot past Sisko with that one line. :whew
Remember when Star Trek was good? Like really good? :mjcry
Remember when Star Trek was good? Like really good? :mjcry
the last thread got closed because people got mad that people were saying nu star trek is total shit and seemingly written by misanthropes who cannot comprehend the existence of human kindness or altruism, even as an aspirational target for humanity to reach
http://twitter.com/startrekcbs/status/1346562112580067328
I'm about 2/3rds of the way through Discovery S3 and am thoroughly bored. I really don't care about "the burn" and this season has been a massive missed opportunity to just enjoy a little bit of a break from the dumb story arc and just do a season of planet of the week episodes.
For a show called Discovery, there is very little in the way of exploration and discovery.
At this point I'm watching it to humour my friend who is a massive Trekkie.
Gone through season 2 and it feels like a soap opera in space.
It's a pity because the production values are pretty high. Wasted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua5Ki77NGpA
Picard S2 has started filming 🤦🏼♂️
I wish theyd just cancel this trash they call trek
Grudge is a “Queen,” and she knows it. Everyone—her so-called owner, Cleveland “Book” Booker, Michael Burnham, Ryn, Zareh, and Tilly—bows down to her, some more willingly than others. And nothing, not extended periods in space, not ship-rattling attacks from enemies, rattles her. Ever. She’s a cool kitty with a ’tude. We call it “Cattitude.”
As a cat, Grudge, has a particular take on the universe, her seeming indifference masking a wit as sharp as her claws.
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I just want something half decent to watch :(Movie wise Sonic the Hedgehog is a bigger franchise now. :kermit
the international streaming services aren't even bidding against each other for broadcast rights to nu-trek stuff any more, as there's so little interest after discovery and picard.
I really find it hard to believe thats what cbs want with what was - even quite recently! - a franchise that you could still get a decent selling movie out of.
“I think vertical alignment has made it so that it’s impossible not to accept the reality that the line between movies and television is gone. It doesn’t mean that you can’t have a feature that is separate from television. But if they aren’t connected in some way, then you’re basically running two universes parallel as opposed to interconnected, and I think that those messages could potentially cancel each other out.”
Additionally, Kurtzman will remain at the helm of the growing Star Trek franchise for the next six years.
REMEMBER THE BORG?????
REMEMBER THE BORG?????
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In 2018, Kurtzman signed a new five-year deal with CBS Television Studios to oversee and expand the Star Trek franchise on television, including serving as executive producer on Star Trek: Discovery (which he also co-showruns with Michelle Paradise), Star Trek: Short Treks, Star Trek: Picard, and Star Trek: Lower Decks.
In August 2021, Kurtzman and Secret Hideout extended its overall deal with CBS Studios, through 2026.
Skipped through the first episode
horrible schlock time travel multiverse trash
Skipped through the first episode
horrible schlock time travel multiverse trash
Are we talking about Pukehard or Disgracery?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W0Ut5gFn0E
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Wtf if one guy can fix this why cant a fucking entire crew fix it? It looks so much betterDeepfakes were not really being explored at the time.
Right out of the gate it's awesome with Patrick Stewart doing some Shakespeare
https://twitter.com/ZachMontellaro/status/1504457043150835714
Picard Episode 3...
Still meh
Borg queen
Jurati hacking into the borg queen
Timetravel hijinx
Boring and predictable
Rebecca Romijn plays "Number One" on the new Star Trek series. Someone took that literally. The character's named Una.
I don't mean to be that guy, but this seems very, very dumb.
Rebecca Romijn plays "Number One" on the new Star Trek series. Someone took that literally. The character's named Una.
I don't mean to be that guy, but this seems very, very dumb.
Could be it's retconned that her nickname is derived from her name.
Rebecca Romijn plays "Number One" on the new Star Trek series. Someone took that literally. The character's named Una.
I don't mean to be that guy, but this seems very, very dumb.
Could be it's retconned that her nickname is derived from her name.
It's clearly a title. Picard calls Riker number one for the entirety of Next Generation.
Also, Dr. M'benga is chief medical officer so I guess he takes a demotion for the original series.
Not solely focused on Star Trek, but drinker still lays in thick and goes for the throat.
https://youtu.be/CQ92cggLMx8
Discovery is SUCH TRASH.
This is being pedantic for the sake of it. Wasn’t Kirk’s deal in Beyond growing older than his father? Not growing old in a midlife crisis way. It’s a moment that stuck with me, for an extremely lame reason: there’s a similar scene in Batman vs Superman and both came out at about the same time.Yep, both Kirk and Bruce are reflecting on their career realizing they're older than their father ever got to live to be. I thought it was one of the better touches for both characters, that sort of "I've gotten to live longer than dad did and this is what I'm doing with it?" Batman's was a little more severe by creating a death wish, Kirk learns how much he treasures his crew. (Batman doesn't learn this until ZSJL.)
Thinking about it, Beyond was the last new Star Trek media I saw. Coming up on six years ago. Thought it was entertaining at the time. They wrote around and in Nimoy’s passing decently.
At one point in time, these Hellraiser movies were considered schlock cinema. Yet look how adeptly they’re able to convey the tension and menace of the monsters’ attack versus the amateur, laughable execution of Picard.
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But it cant be worse than Discovery or Picard!
Can’t elaborate well but characters being emotionally mature, reasonable adults, professionals, however you’d frame it, was part of the old trek appeal to me. There wasn’t a lack of interpersonal drama or emotions. The characters just weren’t acting like bratty teenagers. Everybody became Westley, as written by Joss Whedon.
It's like they all want their version of The Newsrooms Osama Is Dead scene, but don't get that keeps getting posted because it is fucking awful.
QuoteIt's like they all want their version of The Newsrooms Osama Is Dead scene, but don't get that keeps getting posted because it is fucking awful.
I forgot, was that the scene where they played Coldplay?
Never finished Enterprise, which I sort of regret, I'll maybe come around to that. It's really middling but it's still Trek mostly. Though to stand what I said earlier not a lot of strong memorable characters in that cast except Phlox. The whole Archer W Bush, good old boys crew going to space thing didn't really work for me even if the angle of Human/Vulcan mistrust in early Federation days was interesting.
To be fair I suppose there's only so many permutations you can have on that sort of starship crew configuration.
being carried solely by Archer, T'Pol and Phlox (and Shran but don't tell him I said that)
Rick and Morty talk about Star Trek: Picard's emotional finale and embarrassing conclusion. What does it all means? How does they all get to the end of the show while having all the feels and crying butterfly tears? Finally! Patrick Stewart had his say in the direction of Star Trek. He got to act and have all the character moments he always wanted! The result: A turd the size of the moon fell on my face. He rubbed his old shit in my mouth and told me that Picard's mother hanging herself was this moment in his past that made his character not have all the feels and cry butterfly tears all these years later. WOW! What a deep, complex emotional story! I farted butterfly farts! I had to watch the whole season while wearing diapers because I was shitting blood.
Edgier than Tasha Yar ?
Watched the third episode of Shart Trek SNW and it's another serviceable episode but seriously can we stop with the edgy back stories already, how many people statistically with such backstories would you have one on a single ship. :lolspoiler (click to show/hide)And get some lighting on those sets! ::)[close]
A new worlds episode! lets see whose tragic backstory we'll see today!
Also looked at a couple sequences of Babylon 5, which is a show I haven't seen in a couple decades and boy... That's rough. The camera work especially felt super flat, with a bunch of lifeless master shots. The Star Trek shows have sometimes issues with production value but I didn't expect such a wide gap on revisiting. The acting also meh apart from Katsulas who really crushes it.
Also looked at a couple sequences of Babylon 5, which is a show I haven't seen in a couple decades and boy... That's rough. The camera work especially felt super flat, with a bunch of lifeless master shots. The Star Trek shows have sometimes issues with production value but I didn't expect such a wide gap on revisiting. The acting also meh apart from Katsulas who really crushes it.
Which is absolutely a testament to the writing that it still holds up despite the shoddy vfx work and hugely variable acting chops. Same deal as classic Doctor Who tbh (which suffers even worse on the production side of things, but generally better on the acting side of things, even though it regularly veers into huge Stage Ham territory)
What an awful, awful episode of Star Trek. It may just be the worst ever standalone episode in Trek.The writers and producers loved it:
Braga noted the show was not popular among who he dubbed "hard-core fans". "I've come to notice that whenever you infuse a show with sexual themes, some of these fans seem to short-circuit. I mean, the weather array malfunction causing thunderstorms – it was fun!" (Star Trek: The Next Generation Companion (? ed., p. ?))
René Echevarria recalled, "I can still reduce Brannon to shudders when I go into his office and say, 'I can travel on the power transfer beam'. But the cast loved it. Every woman on the lot who read it was coming up to Brannon and patting him. Ultimately I think it was worth doing because it was campy fun and the production values were wonderful. The sets look great and everybody threw themselves into it. Gates did a wonderful job. It just got bigger and broader and to the point of grandmother leaping out of the grave. Just having Beverly basically writhing around having an orgasm at 6 o'clock on family TV was great. For that alone it was worth doing. We got away with murder." (Captains' Logs: The Unauthorized Complete Trek Voyages)
Ronald D. Moore stated, "I kinda liked it. I thought it was good to try a different genre on TNG and mix things up a little. It's not a perfect show by any means, but I'm glad we did it." (AOL chat, 1997)
Braga commented, "It was the best performance I've ever seen. I just thought she did a wonderful job. Picard catches Beverly masturbating for crying out loud! What a tough role to play. When I was writing the words, 'She writhes around in the bed having invisible sex,' I just thought, 'Oh man, we're asking for trouble. Are they gonna be able to pull this off?' Thanks to [director] Jonathan Frakes and Gates, it was not hokey. It was very good. Look, I scripted the first orgasm in "The Game". This was mild by comparison. Sure it was racy. Even Rick Berman had said, 'I can't believe we're doing this.' I think they trimmed quite a bit out of the writhing sequences." (Captains' Logs: The Unauthorized Complete Trek Voyages)
At an Austin, Texas convention in 2012, Gates McFadden stated she wasn't very fond of this episode. "I was basically in love with a lamp! This woman is a doctor and falls in love with a lamp! How the hell does that work?"
It was very good.
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:dead it happened to me
spoiler (click to show/hide)EP1 has Jan the 6th as the catalyst for the Eugenics Wars/WW3 if that answers your question.[close]
It's even less funny than that.
I'm just not sure it has as much to do with progressivism as much as it is the writers are stupid and unimaginative and so can only view the future through modern politics and their own lens which is modern progressivism.
Or is your take more a nuanced take with more elaborate language?No, I'm just basically saying they're dumb rather than deliberate.
Or is your take more a nuanced take with more elaborate language?No, I'm just basically saying they're dumb rather than deliberate.
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It’s not this character’s queerness that makes them a villain. They’re not being villainized because they’re queer. They just happen to be, which I think is heavily refreshing versus in real life where we’re being villainized because of our queerness.
spoiler (click to show/hide)It's the chick who hijacked the enterprise how she is non-binary maybe you are as confused as I am. :lol[close]
I know there were concerns that having a villain who is played by a trans woman who is clearly a queer person would be sending a wrong message. I understand that queer people have had a really long and complicated history with TV and film, and they’ve been very mistreated in the media. Now we see [that] in legislation and in real life. That being said, I think it’s high time we let queer people be villains, you know?
Then this February, Abrams announced during the Paramount Global investors day presentation that a new “Trek” movie “will be shooting by the end of the year” and would feature “our original cast.”
The only problem, according to insiders, was that Pine, Quinto and the rest of the cast had not yet officially signed up for the movie when Abrams made his announcement, leaving Paramount with less than a year to secure the in-demand actors.
The rather inevitable news comes roughly one month after director Matt Shakman exited the “Star Trek” film.
Got an ad earlier that they made a Star Trek Lower Decks themed idle/clicker game. Will check it out and report back as is my duty.So this is made by the same devs who do the Always Sunny and The Office idle games (among others (https://www.eastsidegames.com/games/)) and the core is pretty much the same game just with everything swapped out for Star Trek. They lean into the licenses well on these, as you complete tasks you get little comic book cutscenes taken from the actual episodes, in this game they use the Holodeck to setup the possibility of bringing in all kinds of Trek stuff instead of just being limited to what appeared in the episodes. Of course, that could alter the quality of the cutscenes as they'll have to write them instead of just adapt the show. On other games they have made plenty of assets, like in the Always Sunny game they have tons of variations of the gang based on all the various episodes. It's a idle game so there's not much to talk about with the gameplay lol. There's monetization which I still find amazing because I choose to believe nobody actually purchases anything for these, there's also your typical ad boosts for like four hours of double output, etc. but it's not too annoying and only nags once unlike some games. If you want an idle game to futz around with once a day or whatever and want to go "heh Star Trek" this probably will work.
Kinda funny that they're like "so anyway forget that whole cast, here's all of TNG plus Seven" and probably all the rest of the galaxy stuff too?
- since "today is a good day to die" is so iconic, worf will die; he's a pacifist now because he has some incurable klingon disease, and his options were to frantically seek death to die in glorious battle, or seek inner peace and enjoy the time he has left, beaming with pride at alexander's accomplishments (elevating him in memory of his first actor who died)
- worf was always beaten easily so the writers could show that a threat was actually a threat, and they'll subvert this meme by making him abandon pacifism for a moment to demonstrate he kicks all kinds of ass
- we will see worf succumbing to his illness on his deathbed saying something like "I always imagined dying after a long, fierce battle" and someone will say "you have, worf...you have"
- geordi runs an old fashioned bookstore on earth and we are introduced to him giving a child a book and saying "...but you don't have to take my word for it"
- moriarty and lore are both involved because moriarty was "a program that can defeat data" which means either he's summoned to beat lore, or lore is summoned to beat him (the only thing he still desires, beating the equivalent of data)
- if someone didn't already say "shut up wesley" last season, they will in this one
- beverly crusher will be saved or something and picard will have a nice candlelit dinner ready for her and she'll snuff it out and say "I don't like candles" while t-posing directly into the camera
- I'm not going to watch this and it's likely redlettermedia won't either so I'll probably never know if I was right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo2V1cSVj-w
"Revenge + Star Trek = a fresh idea"
-Some fucking executive somewhere
youtube.com/watch?v=0tfKlgWsqSsFrom same account:
https://youtu.be/Oh8iaLhUVxI
https://youtu.be/Oh8iaLhUVxI
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Picard S3 Ep5 the best episode so far...spoiler (click to show/hide)There was some eye rolling shit like a gang of Vulcan criminals, and super changelings lol.
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spoiler (click to show/hide)The Enterprise D is back!
:hyper :whew :whoo :lawd :rejoice :woooo :delicious :ryker :snob[close]
The whole series has been about the Borg though. ???spoiler (click to show/hide)Didn't they retcon the Borg shit again and Mikey Spock is the one who first encountered them?
I know they did that shit Star Trek: Enterprise....[close]
The whole series has been about the Borg though. ???spoiler (click to show/hide)Didn't they retcon the Borg shit again and Mikey Spock is the one who first encountered them?
I know they did that shit Star Trek: Enterprise....[close]
I thought the slate was supposed to be wiped clean with this season. Retcon the previous two horrible seasons.
Also this season hasnt even been about the borg in any way
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I think Season 3 of Picard is better than SNW, I think both shows are a step in the right direction now if only shows can not try be game of thrones and be their own thing... :trumps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JsjR-e6QI8
S3 of Picard wrapped up, it was a decent TNG fanfic. :-[
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW_P3SRrExw
Tim Russ, the actor who played the Vulcan Tuvok in Star Trek: Voyager in the 1990s, has revived his acting career with a fresh gig: portraying disgraced former President Barack Hussein Obama on television and in public, sources at U.S. Army Cyber Command (ARCYBER) told Real Raw News.
For years, alternative news has claimed that Obama actual had faced justice and been replaced by body doubles and doppelgangers, spitting images of the man who reportedly smells like sulfur and was dubbed “Lord of the flies” after insects inexplicably landed on his head during numerous press conferences.
White Hats, however, remain unconvinced that Obummer bought the farm, and say parables of his demise may be premature. As one high-ranking source at Guantanamo Bay told RRN, “If someone got him, it wasn’t us, and we’ve not seen substantiable proof he’s dead. We’ve never heard chatter—and his death would be pretty big deal.”
The dossier alleges that Russ has been obsessed with Obama since at least 2014. A then-57-year-old Russ petitioned his agent to secure an audition for Southside With You, a 2015 film—entirely fictitious, by the way—about a young, lovestruck Obama wooing Michelle on a first date across Chicago. Told he was too old to play the part, Russ argued he could be de-aged through CGI and play a convincing Barack Hussein Obama.
“The CIA papers don’t say why they need actors to imitate Obama, but clearly say they approached Tim Russ last year. They mention putting Russ through rigorous training so that even astute observers wouldn’t be able to tell he wasn’t Obama unless they were right up in his face. They taught him to walk, talk, and act like Obama, just like they taught actor Arthur Roberts to pretend to be Joseph Biden. Tim Russ is the new Hussein Obama,” our source said.
S3 of Picard wrapped up, it was a decent TNG fanfic. :-[
Yeah, "All Good Things…" will be the canonical end for meYou're going to upset him:
Yeah, "All Good Things…" will be the canonical end for meYou're going to upset him:
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The first episode for the second season of Strange New Worlds is pretty dumb.spoiler (click to show/hide)Big conspiracy episode. There's a dilithium mining planet we're led to believe is co-run by the Klingons and the Federation. (Each side gets 30 days in charge?) There's a huge mining cavern and wow! there's a whole Federation ship inside it. But neither the Klingons nor the Federation know about it. Only the bad guy terrorist operation made up, apparently, of humans and Klingons knows about it.
The ship inside the cavern is going to be used to start a war! And there's Enterprise!
Maybe it's me, and maybe I missed something, but this seems a very big thing to miss on a well-populated, heavily mined planet.[close]
I did like the end, however, in which they attempted to further humanize Spock.
My question is more how do space lizards build spaceships they cant even seem to hold tools
My question is more how do space lizards build spaceships they cant even seem to hold tools
a Star Trek streaming TV movie like the Section 31 film starring Michelle Yeoh