:whew Glad I didn't pre-order TLOU2 yet.
the most surprising thing about this to me is that there's an iron man vr game
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Last of Us' stealth sucked, my dude.
Game is supposedly done, maybe they actually let some of the devs take a break.
Wonder if they ever decided to let QA work remotely or if they were still making them come in.
Last of Us' stealth sucked, my dude.
FACT CHECK: Beating MGS 1 on extreme makes me the de facto stealth expert on the Bore. :karen
Last of Us' stealth sucked, my dude.
FACT CHECK: Beating MGS 1 on extreme makes me the de facto stealth expert on the Bore. :karen
let me slap you in the face with my dick
Game is supposedly done, maybe they actually let some of the devs take a break.
Wonder if they ever decided to let QA work remotely or if they were still making them come in.
Based in Cali so I would assume home working....
Yeah I quit because there was a section where it did seem outright impossible to pass with stealth.
Random cheating AI is not good stealth mechanics.
Also the entire game having your AI companions jumping around everywhere unseen was almost too comical for me to stand lol
:confused
Literally no Nintendo game is coming out except a card game collection in 3 months. Though tbf I think this would've been the case with or without corona. :teehee
https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1245803189573689346 (https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1245803189573689346)
:miyamoto
they didn't delay animal crossing because MUH SALES CHARTS :yeshrug
and xeno is out next month
I agree about the puzzles, ladders and boxes are absolutely mind numbing in it, it's probably why they made fun of it in Uncharted Lost Legacy; hopefully they learned that lesson in LoU2.People complain about the invisible companions, but they'd bitch even harder if you got a game over because the dumb AI got themselves caught.
Oh yeah it would suck for sure; it's just super silly feeling in the game. Basically they decided to make most of the game a series of escort missions for story purposes and just said "fuck it, gameplay wise it doesn't matter they'll just hop around unseen." Like I get it, it would be worse if the enemies saw them.. but how silly it is calls into question the entire design of the game.QuoteIt's not a super deep stealth game, but it's supposed to keep a brisk pace as you go through the story, not trying to be Chaos Theory where you analyze a guard's route for 10 minutes.
There's nothing deep about the puzzles either; move ladder.. move ladder. Which contributes to the snooze-fest that is the early game. Why even include gameplay mechanics that are so damn half baked?
Like I said I understand people who enjoy shallow story-driven games.. what I don't understand is why this game got so much gameplay praise along with it's story (which I find laughably heavy handed as well.)
QA seems like a real hard thing to do remote, esp when you take into account how annoyingly locked down devkits are. Feasible if they relax requirements on the static IP requirements to make the things work.
tbh, i consider invisible ellie to be fairly damning of storytelling in gaming in general. The entire game is about Joel's relationship with her, and it's gutted during every interactive sequence, relying entirely on video sequences and dialogue. Naughty Dog designed the game so that the player never has to do anything but focus on murder in one of the greatest acts of condescending game design I have ever seen. Ellie's just fine you big strong man, go save the dayThis is a good point, but as i've said, they're not looking to do an experimental game, when doing a massive AAA title made to sell systems.
tbh, i consider invisible ellie to be fairly damning of storytelling in gaming in general. The entire game is about Joel's relationship with her, and it's gutted during every interactive sequence, relying entirely on video sequences and dialogue. Naughty Dog designed the game so that the player never has to do anything but focus on murder in one of the greatest acts of condescending game design I have ever seen. Ellie's just fine you big strong man, go save the day
But you don't have to take care of them, and the stealth section sucked anyway.tbh, i consider invisible ellie to be fairly damning of storytelling in gaming in general. The entire game is about Joel's relationship with her, and it's gutted during every interactive sequence, relying entirely on video sequences and dialogue. Naughty Dog designed the game so that the player never has to do anything but focus on murder in one of the greatest acts of condescending game design I have ever seen. Ellie's just fine you big strong man, go save the day
Contrast it with say... Ico, which might be the extreme other end of the scenario.
I know a lot of people shit on it, but FFXV is probably one of the most recent games where I ended up caring about the other characters and feeling like they weren't just a massive burden on me for the entire game.
tbh, i consider invisible ellie to be fairly damning of storytelling in gaming in general. The entire game is about Joel's relationship with her, and it's gutted during every interactive sequence, relying entirely on video sequences and dialogue. Naughty Dog designed the game so that the player never has to do anything but focus on murder in one of the greatest acts of condescending game design I have ever seen. Ellie's just fine you big strong man, go save the day
Contrast it with say... Ico, which might be the extreme other end of the scenario.
I know a lot of people shit on it, but FFXV is probably one of the most recent games where I ended up caring about the other characters and feeling like they weren't just a massive burden on me for the entire game.
I ain't reading all that shit™, but the distinguished mentally-challenged fellowed TV-Tropes speak triggers me, TIMU. :doge
I know what "fridging" means, but i think it's a stupid way to judge storytelling.I ain't reading all that shit™, but the distinguished mentally-challenged fellowed TV-Tropes speak triggers me, TIMU. :doge
TL;DR: Ellie's love interest dies (of course, everyone knows this). Apparently is bisexual, had her former lover killed in the process. Joel dies in this game.
Basically killing a lesbian (fridging women) love interest for a revenge plot.
At least Sony tries to delve into an issue:iface
At least Sony tries to delve into an issue, Microsoft just makes everything generic and as awkward as possible if Gears 5 and HALO 5 are anything to go by.
I mean, Marcus talking to the Female Clinton President about a miscarriage is something I never expected to see in my Gears dudebro shoot bang. :lol
That's such a dumb use of "fridging" lol
/v/ rumored plotNow Deleted Last of Us 2 Plot Leak which read:
- I am the immediate family member of someone working at Naughty Dog The Last of US 2.
- As you know TLoU2 will be Ellie centered obviously. The stories main driving point is the romance that briefly kindled between Dina and Ellie.
- Ellie and Joel are distant because of Joel being controlling stemming from the decision in TLoU but are starting to try and mend their relationship.
- There is a love triangle of sorts, not exactly a triangle as its just two people who love Dina, being Jesse and Ellie.
- Jesse (asian guy from the trailers) and Dina were a couple. Dina is bisexual.
- When Jesse and Dina are on the outs of their relationship Dina starts to make advances on Ellie.
- Due to Dina being the girl every guy wants and having a history dating men (men being a central driving force in this story) Ellie is cautious and is unsure of how serious Dina is.
- However after several flirtatious gestures Ellie begins to question if Dina really does loves Ellie, and Ellie ultimately begins to fall for her.
- Act 1 concludes with Diana and Ellie sharing an important intimate moment solidifying the relationship played through act 1.
- That is until they are interrupted and attacked by a religious sect called the Seraphites (one of 2 groups we encounter, the other being the WLF).
- Jackson is also attacked.
- Dina is killed in this attack.
- The Seraphites believe they are angels cleansing the wasteland. The old "the end of the world is cause of the sinners" trope.
- Anyone that is not a Seraphite is considered a "wolf" or "enemy to the flock (the Seraphites)". They also refer to themselves as "lambs"
- In the vein of SJW baddies, the Seraphites dont like gays because its a sin.
- This is why all their members are *usually* white males with shaven heads or white women. And the few apostates (traitors) that leave the group tend to be minorities.
- Ellie vows to get revenge on the group.
Jesse joins her (That is Jesse in the trailer grabbing Ellies mouth, not Joel) as he also loved Dina. He is later killed as Ellie watches.
- Ellie goes to her old house.
- Then Joel joins her. Until he dies too.
- In the trailer you can see the Seraphites hanging people. This is because they use the old medieval method called "hanging and quartering"
- They only hang and disembowel former Seraphites. The disembowelment is for traitors or "Apostates".
- On the way to avenge Dina they have to cross through WLF territory.
- The leader of the WLF is Marlenes brother.
- Joel Dies and Ellie questions if her quest for revenge was worth losing Joel who she only recently mended her strained relationship with.
- The Seraphites are all immune
- The cut on the cheek is a test for immunity. An infected knife.
- Flashback happens
- The Mystery woman in the trailer is Ellies mom.
- Ellies mom was looking for a cure
- She has a baby with a man that is immune
- the man is killed for sleeping with a "wolf" or outsider
- Marlene and Anna (Mystery Woman) were friends.
- Anna gives birth to Ellie then had Ellie taken away after being born to get her away from Marlene and the Seraphites.
- Marlene (who is WLF) is then sent to retrieve
Ellie and eventually finds her, using her friendship with Anna to win Ellies trust
- Ellie ends up with Seraphite girlfriend who wont turn when they exchange fluids[close]
Fridging women. Nice.
Unsurprisingly, that animation shit they were pushing with that fake vid was, well, fake. Cause damn at that jank for what is supposed to be the most polished game on the market.What are you referring to? We've seen the game played (and plenty have played it, by now) multiple times.
you couldn't tell just from reading his posts?
Here, does the animation look better here?
https://streamable.com/a9z6il
20+ hour day crunch cycles just for arms clipping while climbing and other animation goofs. :doge
https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/g8rpb7/spoilers_the_last_of_us_2_has_been_leaked_onto/Here, does the animation look better here?
https://streamable.com/a9z6il
20+ hour day crunch cycles just for arms clipping while climbing and other animation goofs. :doge
Build is from February... so yeah probably mostly content complete by that point? They spent another month doing bug fixes? Fuck I've lost track of time.
Apparently (this is just a theory) it's a Brazilian translator. It's why some of the scenes (like the Joel one) are in Portugese subs.
They have EA-level crunch. But I never heard a bad thing (until recently) about them. Even Henning (who can't publicly state anything) didn't really have anything bad to say about their culture when asked about her being a woman in the industry/crunch/etc back in 2011-2013.
Speaking of Henning: https://imgur.com/gallery/xcA0Y
Isn't it a little ironic to have a game with a very transparent theme about the "Cycle of revenge" ultimately be sabotaged in what seems like an act of vengeance?:heh
animation shit is whatever. i just think "cinematic games" are all boring garbo and the overwhelming praise they get for just being bad movies where you press up for 8 hours is ::) ::) ::)
Isn't that all how the shit started with the saviors in the walking dead?
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They made a "dark sequel" to a postapocalyptic game. :lolThe actual plot.NO DEMI'S ALLOWED edition(https://i.imgur.com/WNGsKlb.png)[close]
wow really makes u think
I think the story for this game sounds more interesting than the one from the first one, which, as nicely as it was told, on paper was absolutely the most basic Post-Apoc. plot you could imagine.Your hate boners for Last of Us are funny to see. :lol
I get that Sony's fanbase (much like Nintendo's, much like FROM's, much like anything popular) is grating, but are we trying to pretend Naughty Dog doesn't produce well above average graphics/animations? Because you saw some clipping? ::)
"But it's because they have money and time!" Ok, no shit? :doge
Same is true for R*, Ubisoft, DICE, and whatever other big studio can afford to hire the best professionals in the industry and a wave of 3rd worlders contractors to create assets, and then have them go on for years of development.
I'll concede that when you hear Druckmann & co. talk about their game, it sounds like they're writing Ivan's Childhood or some shit, when it's just "American Post-Apocalypse Story #9865", but i mean, it's marketing.
They're selling the game (Sony i mean) as a prestige experience, they did the same with Dad of War, trying to spin THE Meathead's franchise, as a thinking man's reflection on fatherhood and masculinity. :brain
It's precisely because of this that I was surprised that it looked janky to me. I stuck by thinking one of those demos were fake or at the very least an exaggeration of how things work in that game. But I did think the animations look bad seeing most of the clips up to this point, and seeing how the turnover was up to 70% turnover after Uncharted 4 with their lead animator leaving and saying that they hired inexperienced workers to finish the game since ND has a bad reputation among workers it shouldn't be that controversial.
I'll concede that most of what I saw was in clips, not a full game in motion, and that I zeroed in on the bad moments because of the motion matching talk leading up the game, and most of it looks fine.
As for the game itself. I saw all the leaked footage, read a lot of what's going to happen in the game and my take away is obviously the game itself doesn't look like my thing, as it was never going to be and I knew that. But the ideas they have for it's story (emphasis on ideas) sound decent enough to me that I don't know why people are bitching outside of certain aspects, which to me mostly stems from nerd worship of videogame characters more than anything cause everything in there is "sound" for lack of a better term. I'd like to see how the story is executed overall, actually. I'm interested now, more so than I was before I looked at this.
And for the record, my hate isn't towards naughty dog's games as TIMU would tell you that I'm big into Uncharted as well. I just dislike TLOU's fans specifically because my interactions with them were annoying, and makes me realize why people hated OOT and FF7 fans back in the day (me not being young and on board with the praise is probably why I dislike them).
tl;dr
LOL I'm a dork.
https://twitter.com/PantsuVor/status/1255070185138110464No need Neil, i've worked with Gaspar Noè!
https://twitter.com/PantsuVor/status/1255070185138110464
But what does make me visibly cringe and go "gah! Fuck shit fuck!" is Lara Croft being impaled on a stick while going down the river in one of those modern TR games. Christ almighty does that make me go all :exxyI remember that. She tries to grab the spike going through her jaw in a panic. /shudder
Not to defend Druckmann but I feel like that's extrapolating too much.
Not to defend Druckmann but I feel like that's extrapolating too much.
Duckman's Neogaf posts had a very....smug smell to them when he posted. A lot of devs did. Game devs like most creative types often come across as being smug or artsy fartsy.
force underpaid workers to watch liveleak death movies all day for some shitty videogame story and the honor of having one of your games on their resume then spend your day calling yourself an artist on neogaf. :lol no wonder everyone wants to quit that shithole studio.I've been through a bunch of REKT threads, hire me ND. :smug
A game that has cursing, murder, rape, and is considered art.... And yet, Tifa gets crucified for calling Cloud and Barret distinguished mentally-challenged fellows back in 1997 ... what a world we live in today. :rejoiceIs FF7 not considered art? Especially by the target audience of hardcore gamers?
Ellie Edition better have her face beaten to a pulp to let me feel the anguish when looking at the box art. Perhaps a few chiclets with blood on the spine when I'm not proudly displaying it front side forward next to my Mastur Chef cat helmet.(https://i.imgur.com/BSG6BS8.jpg)
Not to defend Druckmann but I feel like that's extrapolating too much.
Duckman's Neogaf posts had a very....smug smell to them when he posted. A lot of devs did. Game devs like most creative types often come across as being smug or artsy fartsy.
I'm enjoying the game struggling to hit 30fps in a bunch of the scenes.
I'm enjoying the game struggling to hit 30fps in a bunch of the scenes.
...So this... is the power... of the Playstation™ 4™...
Ellie Edition better have her face beaten to a pulp to let me feel the anguish when looking at the box art. Perhaps a few chiclets with blood on the spine when I'm not proudly displaying it front side forward next to my Mastur Chef cat helmet.
Newsfeed.QuoteStupid joke aside, I consider vidya entertainment art. Can be utterly throw away low brow art, but yeah I still consider it art. Even shit like the pack in Cap'n Crunch pc game they packed in the cereal around the late 90s I think.
I'm with you. Plus people still play Chex Quest.
Ellie Edition better have her face beaten to a pulp to let me feel the anguish when looking at the box art. Perhaps a few chiclets with blood on the spine when I'm not proudly displaying it front side forward next to my Mastur Chef cat helmet.
Newsfeed.QuoteStupid joke aside, I consider vidya entertainment art. Can be utterly throw away low brow art, but yeah I still consider it art. Even shit like the pack in Cap'n Crunch pc game they packed in the cereal around the late 90s I think.
I'm with you. Plus people still play Chex Quest.
Chex Quest is getting a Limited Run re-release soon...
Turns out the ludonarrative dissonance shitposts from 2007 really fucked up ND's minds.
The build where everything got leaked from was from February, so a lot of the technical issues people are complaining about should be fixed by release. Naughty Gods and all that.
So should assume it's a person or people from another company that are lending help on the development side?
It's not the final version so doesn't have anything to do with disk processing or anything like that.
I'm guessing they are just judiciously leaving the word "directly" out; the leak almost certainly originated from an employee or contractor, someone affiliated with the development of the game. A hack is the only other real explanation.
10s of thousands of people were mailed every piece of MS software monthly including all betas back when that's how MSDN worked. The files weren't really something heavily protected.
The leak is a copy from Feb. apparently too.
Just posted these tweets online without even running it by Jason Schreier first? Despicable.
Just posted these tweets online without even running it by Jason Schreier first? Despicable.
Filthy leaks only become enlightening news through the transubstantiation mediated by Jason.
:preach
Dude claims to have some knowledge of how things went down.
https://twitter.com/PixelButts/status/1256792950136172550
Wait; ND has been putting AWS keys in clear text... in their, game patches? The ones that go to PS4's?
What in the flying fuck...
Wait; ND has been putting AWS keys in clear text... in their, game patches? The ones that go to PS4's?
What in the flying fuck...
So in theory Uncharted 2 and 3's Multiplayer was on AWS servers a la Rocket League (was AWS around in 2009-2010 or so? I forget). But at the same time, it needs to save settings to AWS? WTF. Sony's flagship studio doesn't have multiplayer servers built in-house/on-site for them? :doge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyS6qaCa6cs&Whatever that was it's gone now. :doge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyS6qaCa6csWhatever that was it's gone now. :doge
:lol booo, screw your US-centrism. Expecting the whole world to bend to your fuckups, but no proper action anytime equally bad or worse shit happens elsewhere.:doge
More like Sorny Latestation :rodney
:lol booo, screw your US-centrism. Expecting the whole world to bend to your fuckups, but no proper action anytime equally bad or worse shit happens elsewhere.:doge
100% Sony wouldn't have delayed shit, if these revolts didn't take place in US/EU countries, but is it really US centrism, when it's their major market, and they want people to be home to watch the damn thing? ::)
It'd be funny if bunch of the trailers they planned to show got leaked now, though. :lol
I can think of another Austrian who hated America :hitlerThe Chad Schwarzenegger vs The Virgin Hitler.
I can think of another Austrian who hated America :hitler
They’d probably be showing off the new call of duty at least too, which now isn’t really the time for :yeshrugRockstar probably had a State of Emergency Remaster thrown in there too. :doge
but i thought mahvel and snoy were woke :brazilcryOnly fair weather woke. lol
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In before a plane crash postpones it to June 18th :existential
Maybe it’s cos I’m too old for this shit but I don’t think I could muster a single fuck about the ps5 :doge
Unless they put something as good as game pass out soyny can suck my balls
Tomba remaster. IT IS TIME. Did medievil ever come out?
there'll still be demonstrations/riots/whatever on the 11th but sureDamn, Xbots will take that bad? :doge
1080p, 30fps. Showing the ps5 off to its full potential :doge
So curious to see how Sony will try to spin the TF gap to the Series X (how big is the gap 3 tf? PS5 is toast)to their advantage with some bullshit termsWhy would they even address it? I mean they did in the technical deep dive or whatever it was called, but now they can just show some games that look good and people won't give a shit.
They did so much already with small devs coming out saying how amazing PS5 is to work with.
:lol
So curious to see how Sony will try to spin the TF gap to the Series X (how big is the gap 3 tf? PS5 is toast)to their advantage with some bullshit termsMaybe they'll pull a Saturn vs. PlayStation.
They did so much already with small devs coming out saying how amazing PS5 is to work with.
:lol
Some activity on amazon.com suggests we might be seeing PS5 pre-orders go up tomorrow.Yeah, seen some buzzing about a 2TB sku
I'll be searching/refreshing amazon.com for sure just in case.
Why? They'll support (selected) 3rd party SSDs, if fast enough and in the right form factor, so i assume more standard storage sizes aren't an issue. (?)Some activity on amazon.com suggests we might be seeing PS5 pre-orders go up tomorrow.Yeah, seen some buzzing about a 2TB sku
I'll be searching/refreshing amazon.com for sure just in case.
Yeah that's actually one thing that makes me think it's fake; they can't do 2 TB only multiples of 865.
Actually hearing Spiderman 2 is unlikely but Insomniac has another game from their second dev team likely ready to show.
I just hope there's some animu games featuring waifus with big tiddies
Oh my gosh please let this thing be 599
Feel like Sony should have learned to grow past action platformers at this point.. but I suppose they might be cheaper to produce and you can have a B-team do it.
You just gotta take them titties in 720p :dogeI just hope there's some animu games featuring waifus with big tiddies
Gotta go to another platform for that.
Who would have thought that Sony would turn into 90s Nintendo and Nintendo would be late 90s/early 2000s Sony?
RESISTANCE!
You just gotta take them titties in 720p :dogeI just hope there's some animu games featuring waifus with big tiddies
Gotta go to another platform for that.
Who would have thought that Sony would turn into 90s Nintendo and Nintendo would be late 90s/early 2000s Sony?
Should we make a new thread for the actual reveal?
I may lose a little bit of my shit if some Elden Ring gameplay is shown.
The real preshow: https://www.twitch.tv/mega64podcast
lol, I was halfway thinking "ya know if it's $450 or 500 I might preorder one, fuck it" but I see Sony is likely to go full Sony
So curious to see how Sony will try to spin the TF gap to the Series X (how big is the gap 3 tf? PS5 is toast)to their advantage with some bullshit terms
They did so much already with small devs coming out saying how amazing PS5 is to work with.
:lol
it's up to 10.3
its 9 iirc
halve that number Lager
N64 was just a flop