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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: toku on May 29, 2020, 01:13:28 AM

Title: Is the world burning?
Post by: toku on May 29, 2020, 01:13:28 AM
https://twitter.com/MoCrunch1/status/1266220475052634119
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 29, 2020, 01:17:10 AM
starting to think meltdown may doesn't end in may
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 29, 2020, 01:18:32 AM
https://twitter.com/shoe0nhead/status/1266230092667056131
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 29, 2020, 01:19:38 AM
gotta celebrate tonight
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on May 29, 2020, 01:22:59 AM
starting to think meltdown may doesn't end in may
Eternal May
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: eleuin on May 29, 2020, 01:23:42 AM
https://twitter.com/_AlmondBaby/status/1265713741930180608
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: toku on May 29, 2020, 01:28:43 AM
https://twitter.com/_kailssss/status/1266217777511067648
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 29, 2020, 01:44:36 AM
https://twitter.com/CityMinneapolis/status/1266224316645027841
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 29, 2020, 01:54:01 AM
https://twitter.com/MoCrunch1/status/1266220475052634119

Im already waiting for the "why are black communities hit so hard by this pandemic" in a few weeks in that area

fucking dumbasses

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 29, 2020, 01:55:00 AM
That's such a kosma post
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 29, 2020, 01:56:39 AM
let that racism out
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 29, 2020, 02:01:43 AM
Its true though, how fucking stupid can you be

Yeah I get the protest against those bastard cops that murdered another black man, yeah I would feel like burning some police cars myself etc.

Yet maybe not a good idea to go fucking dancing together with no masks during this outbreak compromising your whole community

If we can make fun of stupid maga people protesting going back to barber salons surely we can make fun of these blacks too

And lol  :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol @ the racism comment
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 29, 2020, 02:22:07 AM
Yikes my dude.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 29, 2020, 02:22:48 AM
The only thing this protest changed is more black lives will be lost in the coming weeks due to corona.

Congrats on winning the darwin award folks.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: eleuin on May 29, 2020, 02:48:23 AM
Never change zwarte
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on May 29, 2020, 03:32:44 AM
https://twitter.com/_AlmondBaby/status/1265713741930180608

I feel as though "white lives don't matter" and "kill all white people" are equally provocative statements (and both equally stupid) but it's good he cleared that up.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 29, 2020, 04:09:40 AM
The Day The Niccaz Took Over 2

:rejoice :rejoice :rejoice
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 29, 2020, 05:36:56 AM
if are you there rioting, you aint black
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EightBitNate on May 29, 2020, 06:47:37 AM
https://twitter.com/newday/status/1266315061209030658

They just arrested a black CNN reporter in Minnesota live on air. I’ve never seen anything like this.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 29, 2020, 06:57:26 AM
minnesota cops must not give a fuck  :existential

you'd think the brass would be telling them not to do shit that will fan the flames more but then they do that

:piss :drudge :piss2
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 29, 2020, 07:02:52 AM
Finally got those CNN criminals.  :rejoice
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 07:33:15 AM
https://twitter.com/NewDay/status/1266331110176325632
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 29, 2020, 07:37:28 AM
Idk tbf just another colony struggling post colonialism.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on May 29, 2020, 07:41:27 AM
If we can make fun of stupid maga people protesting going back to barber salons surely we can make fun of these blacks too

everyone watching has noted how this event has been surprisingly multiracial for once, everyone shocked at how many white people are there standing beside their black neighbors

if anything if the damage is worse this time around, it correlates with more white people being present
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 29, 2020, 07:42:47 AM
The only thing this protest changed is more black lives will be lost in the coming weeks due to corona.

Congrats on winning the darwin award folks.

I get what you're saying, but... :yikes

If you were going to do the racism thing, at least say "they should've worn masks to protect against facial recognition." More subvert.

4/10. See me after racism class. :wag  :doge

Seriously though: Did protesters learn nothing after the Hong Kong protests? At least wear a mask to avoid the cameras. :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on May 29, 2020, 07:48:40 AM
Man, those cops are really fucking dumb.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on May 29, 2020, 07:48:56 AM
most of them actually are wearing masks, read a post from someone who attended and they said 80% mask coverage if not more, and people were handing out masks to those who didn't have them
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on May 29, 2020, 07:49:59 AM
Well, at least is something.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 29, 2020, 07:53:00 AM
Im just basing this on the one clip here. Situation is surely a corona cluster in the making. Who will it hurt the most? The families and friends of the people involved. Mostly black people. Making a bad situation worse. And for what? Nothing will come of this riot. More pointless then the Warsaw Uprising.

ACAB we all know this but this protest is just dumb like this, in these times. Maybe try to do something more creative.

Anyhoo have fun labeling me racist with your faux outrage of the truth I typed out that this is some stupid shit.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 29, 2020, 07:58:24 AM
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More pointless then the Warsaw Uprising.

 :whoo
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on May 29, 2020, 07:59:18 AM
You are right about the infection cluster but given how the cops have been acting makes me sympathize more with the protesters.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on May 29, 2020, 08:17:06 AM
https://twitter.com/dyllyp/status/1266166402521522176

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 29, 2020, 08:20:43 AM
This is getting very China/Russia/Stasi-esque if not a hoax.

From the vid you can't make out its a cop in that mask.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on May 29, 2020, 08:32:49 AM
the police are saying it's not him, but of course they WOULD say that

https://twitter.com/sppdmn/status/1266202226386747392

https://twitter.com/sppdmn/status/1266202227674361857
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on May 29, 2020, 08:41:44 AM
saying this because you have to call shit when you see it in advance

I believe the reason the cop is not arrested yet is that the DA/police believe they have evidence that george died of some kind of overdose, and would have died with or without a knee on his neck

absent some kind of toxicology report I don't believe that's the case, but I believe it's what THEY believe

and at this point if it was true...no one would ever believe it
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on May 29, 2020, 08:42:21 AM
Oops, I meant to post the “that's no protester“ tweet, not the one IDing him.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Still a cop tho  :hans1

https://twitter.com/k3lese/status/1265871849310900226

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Probably some shit heel BernieBro
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Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 08:50:26 AM
https://twitter.com/icecube/status/1265985651918254081
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 29, 2020, 09:23:51 AM
https://kstp.com/news/george-floyd-fired-officer-overlapped-security-shifts-at-south-minneapolis-club-may-28-2020/5743990/

Quote
"Chauvin was our off-duty police for almost the entirety of the 17 years that we were open," Santamaria said. "They were working together at the same time, it's just that Chauvin worked outside and the security guards were inside."
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Beezy on May 29, 2020, 09:27:31 AM
Maybe try to do something more creative.
Like what

Instead of debating or arguing with people I usually stop entering a thread once I see people talking crazy because it's not worth it, but you sound like a piece of shit on this page. Never thought I'd see the protests don't work/do something else argument on here just three days after police murdered someone on camera.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 09:33:37 AM
https://twitter.com/whatupkihd/status/1266002858048176128
https://twitter.com/couldbeamos/status/1265868170881110017
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 29, 2020, 09:33:41 AM
Well these protests dont work and they wont achieve anything and they will kill more black people then they save.

If reality sounds like a piece of shit then thats too bad Beezy.

You can PM me in 6 months when nothing changed but some more people dead due to corona thanks to this protest.

Smart thing would be to organize and force change institutionally or organize guerrilla ways to protest/oppose police. I dont need to come up with alternatives for you.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 09:36:07 AM
One of the responses also had another racist Karen video:

https://twitter.com/dudebeyourself/status/1265809561065324545
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 29, 2020, 09:40:00 AM
Smart thing would be to organize and force change institutionally or organize guerrilla ways to protest/oppose police.

yes if only someone would try these things, then we could see how effective they actually are



(https://media1.tenor.com/images/af131f009a820c964ceb7d8b7010d979/tenor.gif?itemid=4653512)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on May 29, 2020, 09:51:37 AM
Smart thing would be to organize and force change institutionally or organize guerrilla ways to protest/oppose police.

yes if only someone would try these things, then we could see how effective they actually are



(https://media1.tenor.com/images/af131f009a820c964ceb7d8b7010d979/tenor.gif?itemid=4653512)

violence has also been tried before, at the Rodney King riots, at Ferguson, and didn't accomplish anything either

you're basically saying since everything has been tried and nothing works, peaceful protest doesn't work, violent protest doesn't work, let's just do the most heinous option out of all of them lol it's lit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 29, 2020, 09:52:06 AM
Smart thing would be to organize and force change institutionally or organize guerrilla ways to protest/oppose police.

yes if only someone would try these things, then we could see how effective they actually are



(https://media1.tenor.com/images/af131f009a820c964ceb7d8b7010d979/tenor.gif?itemid=4653512)

If you dont think that is effective wait until you find out how much this riot does
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 29, 2020, 10:04:58 AM
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More pointless then the Warsaw Uprising.

 :whoo


How anyone can call the Warsaw Uprising pointless is the wildest shit. That event has shaped the Polish identity throughout the years of Polish oppression as a Soviet satellite state and is still important to a collective remembrance and identity today. :mindblown
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 29, 2020, 10:06:40 AM
Kosma betraying his own people :hitler he's on a roll!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 29, 2020, 10:10:16 AM
Kiss my round, brown butt.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 29, 2020, 10:12:23 AM
Nah the extent to which this is canon now to Varsovian (makes some sense) and Polish identity (makes less sense) is the whole fucking problem with it, there is no discussion  because if you are against it you are labelled unpatriotic.

Most of the people that are so high on the uprising weren't in it and didn't die etc. They are just right wingers with a nationalistic agenda (not patriots but nationalists).

While the sentiment of the uprising was in some ways worthy the outcome was a bottle job and it was a pointless bloodshed so close to the end with hundreds of thousands dead.

My grandma who was there said when asked in an interview how she views it "many young people died bravely, but needlessly . Im sure she would rather have had her dad back and not being in Auschwitz over a pointless last stand.


The parallels with not being able to say these protests are dumb is huge.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cheddahz on May 29, 2020, 10:22:57 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/uAqswNc.png)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 29, 2020, 10:27:00 AM
Is it too much to ask that a riot have a clear agenda, a ten-point plan for achieving its goals, and organized leadership to maintain order while also keeping social distancing?  Also, it's 2020 why are we not rioting over zoom?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on May 29, 2020, 10:30:05 AM
You can't really expect people to peacefully protest when they've done so for decades with little to no change. This shit was a powder keg waiting to blow up and unemployment rising during the lockdown probably accelerated it all.

yeah honestly it makes a lot of sense when you're unemployed to go ruin other peoples' lives too so they can be just as unemployed as you, it's pretty cathartic
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 29, 2020, 10:30:19 AM
Sorry guys I don't know why I'm arguing with you.

You guys have it all figured out in the USA already between electing trump, no healthcare and institutionalized racism I think you have all the solutions.

I'll just refrain from commenting while you show the world how to best organize and get things done.

I will think about this during my 2-3 months paid paternity leave on a minimum pay job in this wretched country that can learn a lot from how you do things in the US.

Maybe one day we will be able to copy your blueprint for stability and success.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 29, 2020, 10:32:19 AM
violent protest is literally why there is progress in this country. like jesus christ in any country go look it over and see how often brutal disenfranchisement was resolved through the fucking legislature vs direct fucking action. you don't make gains by appealing to nonexistant empathy or whatever, you make gains by showing them that the alternative is much much worse. the liberal whackoff fantasy of nonviolently negotiating a peaceful world is nothing but a thought exercise for people who ignore the world around them.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on May 29, 2020, 10:35:42 AM
violent protest is literally why there is progress in this country. like jesus christ in any country go look it over and see how often brutal disenfranchisement was resolved through the fucking legislature vs direct fucking action. you don't make gains by appealing to nonexistant empathy or whatever, you make gains by showing them that the alternative is much much worse. the liberal whackoff fantasy of nonviolently negotiating a peaceful world is nothing but a thought exercise for people who ignore the world around them.

oh you know you're right, the grand jury decided not to indict Darren Wilson which led to Ferguson riots and because of it afterward they changed their mind and arrested him and threw him in prison forever

plus after seeing what happened there, cops across the country learned a major lesson and changed their behavior afterward
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 29, 2020, 10:39:38 AM
muh neighborhoods
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 29, 2020, 10:40:07 AM
Just ban Lager from the thread
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: eleuin on May 29, 2020, 10:40:13 AM
Expecting the victims to immediately disperse after for what most would be their first act of real defiance to the system that has been actively oppressing them since birth... To combat a problem that the system is also making actively worse for them... Naive would be the word if we're still being civil
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on May 29, 2020, 10:43:06 AM
Expecting the victims to immediately disperse after for what most would be their first act of real defiance to the system that has been actively oppressing them since birth... To combat a problem that the system is also making actively worse for them... Naive would be the word if we're still being civil

burning down the precinct and demonstrating outside of it all day and night was 100% the right move because those are the people who are directly responsible
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 10:43:25 AM
I'll just refrain from commenting

Good idea!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 29, 2020, 10:43:41 AM
Im surprised yall can type so much when there is a revolution outside. Aren't you joining the successful movement of liberation?

Or you are more the silent keyboard warrior types?

Just ban Lager from the thread

That will show the officers repsonsible!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 29, 2020, 10:43:45 AM
Can't believe I get to live through another Long Hot Summer
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 29, 2020, 10:45:46 AM
Bork plz, he’s literally trolling race issues
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 29, 2020, 10:46:33 AM
With global warming, they will all become long hot summers soon.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 29, 2020, 10:47:44 AM
How am i trolling race issues?

I agree with the sentiment and am anti police

You cant say anything to some of you eh that doesnt fit the lets burn it all down narrative

Bunch of losers
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 29, 2020, 10:48:15 AM
The first comment you had was to call all the black people dumbasses. No time for you
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 29, 2020, 10:48:54 AM
Well they are so? (The protesters)

Just like the maga protesters
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 29, 2020, 10:50:41 AM
They’re not dumb, they’re oppressed and boiling over, it’s not an official group with an agenda, it’s an outburst that happens when you constantly crush human spirits, go away
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 10:52:11 AM
OK Lager, thanks for your input.  It's time to stop posting in this thread. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 29, 2020, 10:52:53 AM
Well I think they are dumb so and if you dont like it too bad

Thats not racism and if you think so you are dumb too

I dont think they are dumb because they are black (racism) but of how they act

I also thinl maga protesters are dumb but not because they are white (racism) but because of how they act
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 10:53:48 AM
Well I think they are dumb so and if you dont like it too bad

Thats not racism and if you think so you are dumb too

I dont think they are dumb because they are black (racism) but of how they act

I also thinl maga protesters are dumb but not because they are white (racism) but because of how they act

OK, great.  Don't make another post in this thread.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: mormapope on May 29, 2020, 10:53:52 AM
Armchair philosophy of how people that have had their dignity crushed for over a century should feel, how they should do so and so to accomplish so and so, is fucking laughable and coming from a perspective of privalege.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 29, 2020, 10:54:07 AM
You will have to ban me to make me stop posting my non racist opinions

Then you can reflect in the future how you are a big pussy for not wanting to hear different OPINIONS
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 10:54:40 AM
You will have to ban me to make me stop posting my non racist opinions

Then you can reflect in the future how you are a big pussy for not wanting to hear different OPINIONS

But how can I hear anything?  It's all text!

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 29, 2020, 10:54:51 AM
violent protest is literally why there is progress in this country. like jesus christ in any country go look it over and see how often brutal disenfranchisement was resolved through the fucking legislature vs direct fucking action. you don't make gains by appealing to nonexistant empathy or whatever, you make gains by showing them that the alternative is much much worse. the liberal whackoff fantasy of nonviolently negotiating a peaceful world is nothing but a thought exercise for people who ignore the world around them.

oh you know you're right, the grand jury decided not to indict Darren Wilson which led to Ferguson riots and because of it afterward they changed their mind and arrested him and threw him in prison forever

plus after seeing what happened there, cops across the country learned a major lesson and changed their behavior afterward

He said nothing about cops changing their behavior.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 29, 2020, 10:54:55 AM
Armchair philosophy of how people that have had their dignity crushed for over a century should feel, how they should do so and so to accomplish so and so, is fucking laughable and coming from a perspective of privalege.

Privelage of being Polish and having our dignity crushef for centuries?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 29, 2020, 10:55:08 AM
This month is taking so many victims
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: eleuin on May 29, 2020, 10:55:46 AM
burning down the precinct and demonstrating outside of it all day and night was 100% the right move because those are the people who are directly responsible

So we're in agreement it'll be cool when they do it after burning city hall? Like 12 aren't enforcing the status quo and serve only those in power fuck out of here
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 10:56:22 AM
You will have to ban me to make me stop posting my non racist opinions

Then you can reflect in the future how you are a big pussy for not wanting to hear different OPINIONS

(https://www.thegazette.com/storyimage/GA/20180214/ARTICLE/180219825/AR/0/AR-180219825.jpg&MaxH=500&MaxW=900)

OK Lager, take a few days off to cool down.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 29, 2020, 10:57:05 AM
He said nothing about cops changing their behavior.

Exactly, to crib my Facebook post from the other day, if you are mostly upset about property damage or theft, your priorities are too far gone for me to engage with you on this.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: mormapope on May 29, 2020, 10:57:07 AM
Armchair philosophy of how people that have had their dignity crushed for over a century should feel, how they should do so and so to accomplish so and so, is fucking laughable and coming from a perspective of privalege.

Privelage of being Polish and having our dignity crushef for centuries?

My lack of knowledge of Polish history is the same as yours for black and impoverished Americans. Difference is don't talk about Poland as if I have a fucking clue.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on May 29, 2020, 10:59:42 AM
burning down the precinct and demonstrating outside of it all day and night was 100% the right move because those are the people who are directly responsible

So we're in agreement it'll be cool when they do it after burning city hall? Like 12 aren't enforcing the status quo and serve only those in power fuck out of here

when they do what?  yeah I think we're in agreement, burning down the precinct made sense, burning city hall maybe too sure, those are public institutions no longer serving the people
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 29, 2020, 11:00:57 AM
Imagine making fun of us for having no healthcare, which is basically due to corporate greed on one hand, and defending corporate property in the other. Lol

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 29, 2020, 11:02:37 AM
https://youtu.be/4G7TTDEHl5o

Might have to watch Do The Right Thing again :whew
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on May 29, 2020, 11:02:40 AM
He said nothing about cops changing their behavior.

Exactly, to crib my Facebook post from the other day, if you are mostly upset about property damage or theft, your priorities are too far gone for me to engage with you on this.

ok but what if you're concerned about the people impacted by it

I don't care about fucking stuff I care about the dude who didn't do anything wrong losing everything

https://twitter.com/Hvyster/status/1266254845356290050

this guy is lucky he got his gofundme up early
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 29, 2020, 11:05:02 AM
again, it's not a coordinated political movement, it's a violent response to violent oppression

and yeah it sucks when innocent people get hurt but obviously so many more people get hurt by the day to day bullshit, which is exactly why shit builds up and explodes like this
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 29, 2020, 11:08:38 AM
He said nothing about cops changing their behavior.

Exactly, to crib my Facebook post from the other day, if you are mostly upset about property damage or theft, your priorities are too far gone for me to engage with you on this.

ok but what if you're concerned about the people impacted by it

I don't care about fucking stuff I care about the dude who didn't do anything wrong losing everything

https://twitter.com/Hvyster/status/1266254845356290050

this guy is lucky he got his gofundme up early

We know you're not concerned for them. Some rich black person will find out about it and help him. Bet.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 29, 2020, 11:11:44 AM
when they do what?  yeah I think we're in agreement, burning down the precinct made sense, burning city hall maybe too sure, those are public institutions no longer serving the people
Quote from: guess
Urban riots must now be recognized as durable social phenomena. They may be deplored, but they are there and should be understood. Urban riots are a special form of violence. They are not insurrections. The rioters are not seeking to seize territory or to attain control of institutions. They are mainly intended to shock the white community. They are a distorted form of social protest. The looting which is their principal feature serves many functions. It enables the most enraged and deprived Negro to take hold of consumer goods with the ease the white man does by using his purse. Often the Negro does not even want what he takes; he wants the experience of taking. But most of all, alienated from society and knowing that this society cherishes property above people, he is shocking it by abusing property rights. There are thus elements of emotional catharsis in the violent act. This may explain why most cities in which riots have occurred have not had a repetition, even though the causative conditions remain. It is also noteworthy that the amount of physical harm done to white people other than police is infinitesimal and in Detroit whites and Negroes looted in unity.

A profound judgment of today’s riots was expressed by Victor Hugo a century ago. He said, ‘If a soul is left in the darkness, sins will be committed. The guilty one is not he who commits the sin, but he who causes the darkness.’

The policymakers of the white society have caused the darkness; they create discrimination; they structured slums; and they perpetuate unemployment, ignorance and poverty. It is incontestable and deplorable that Negroes have committed crimes; but they are derivative crimes. They are born of the greater crimes of the white society. When we ask Negroes to abide by the law, let us also demand that the white man abide by law in the ghettos. Day-in and day-out he violates welfare laws to deprive the poor of their meager allotments; he flagrantly violates building codes and regulations; his police make a mockery of law; and he violates laws on equal employment and education and the provisions for civic services. The slums are the handiwork of a vicious system of the white society; Negroes live in them but do not make them any more than a prisoner makes a prison. Let us say boldly that if the violations of law by the white man in the slums over the years were calculated and compared with the law-breaking of a few days of riots, the hardened criminal would be the white man. These are often difficult things to say but I have come to see more and more that it is necessary to utter the truth in order to deal with the great problems that we face in our society.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 29, 2020, 11:11:46 AM
violent protest is literally why there is progress in this country. like jesus christ in any country go look it over and see how often brutal disenfranchisement was resolved through the fucking legislature vs direct fucking action. you don't make gains by appealing to nonexistant empathy or whatever, you make gains by showing them that the alternative is much much worse. the liberal whackoff fantasy of nonviolently negotiating a peaceful world is nothing but a thought exercise for people who ignore the world around them.

oh you know you're right, the grand jury decided not to indict Darren Wilson which led to Ferguson riots and because of it afterward they changed their mind and arrested him and threw him in prison forever

plus after seeing what happened there, cops across the country learned a major lesson and changed their behavior afterward

:kermit

I'm all for violence if things aren't working. BUT history so far has been "lol we aren't going to change shit," and "the cop(s) that murdered the 'perp' get away scott-free."

Rioting isn't going to do shit. You want to bring change? Drag the fucking cop out through the mountain of "fellow brothers" that circle the wagon on his ass.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on May 29, 2020, 11:17:25 AM
We know you're not concerned for them. Some rich black person will find out about it and help him. Bet.

foh with this, I literally donated to his gofundme

thankfully it's looking like he won't need a rich black benefactor because it's up over $56k
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on May 29, 2020, 11:25:55 AM
not doxing myself but I'm pretty sure this one is mine it was about that time

(https://i.imgur.com/w6Nme1H.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/XzSr5pX.png)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 29, 2020, 11:29:16 AM
I thought DC Dairy Queen was just your bedroom name. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 29, 2020, 11:31:38 AM
Coronavirus is making a lot of things that would have taken years or decades to unfold to happen.

Wouldn't be shocked if we are in the middle of an American civil wsr by the end of the year.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 29, 2020, 11:35:04 AM
when they do what?  yeah I think we're in agreement, burning down the precinct made sense, burning city hall maybe too sure, those are public institutions no longer serving the people
Quote from: guess
Urban riots must now be recognized as durable social phenomena. They may be deplored, but they are there and should be understood. Urban riots are a special form of violence. They are not insurrections. The rioters are not seeking to seize territory or to attain control of institutions. They are mainly intended to shock the white community. They are a distorted form of social protest. The looting which is their principal feature serves many functions. It enables the most enraged and deprived Negro to take hold of consumer goods with the ease the white man does by using his purse. Often the Negro does not even want what he takes; he wants the experience of taking. But most of all, alienated from society and knowing that this society cherishes property above people, he is shocking it by abusing property rights. There are thus elements of emotional catharsis in the violent act. This may explain why most cities in which riots have occurred have not had a repetition, even though the causative conditions remain. It is also noteworthy that the amount of physical harm done to white people other than police is infinitesimal and in Detroit whites and Negroes looted in unity.

A profound judgment of today’s riots was expressed by Victor Hugo a century ago. He said, ‘If a soul is left in the darkness, sins will be committed. The guilty one is not he who commits the sin, but he who causes the darkness.’

The policymakers of the white society have caused the darkness; they create discrimination; they structured slums; and they perpetuate unemployment, ignorance and poverty. It is incontestable and deplorable that Negroes have committed crimes; but they are derivative crimes. They are born of the greater crimes of the white society. When we ask Negroes to abide by the law, let us also demand that the white man abide by law in the ghettos. Day-in and day-out he violates welfare laws to deprive the poor of their meager allotments; he flagrantly violates building codes and regulations; his police make a mockery of law; and he violates laws on equal employment and education and the provisions for civic services. The slums are the handiwork of a vicious system of the white society; Negroes live in them but do not make them any more than a prisoner makes a prison. Let us say boldly that if the violations of law by the white man in the slums over the years were calculated and compared with the law-breaking of a few days of riots, the hardened criminal would be the white man. These are often difficult things to say but I have come to see more and more that it is necessary to utter the truth in order to deal with the great problems that we face in our society.

Kim Kardashian?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 29, 2020, 11:52:32 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/q2OxPxi.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 29, 2020, 12:13:23 PM
This month is taking so many victims

If this keep going I may be forced to make a carepost one day.  :walkaway
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on May 29, 2020, 12:22:24 PM
Coronavirus is making a lot of things that would have taken years or decades to unfold to happen.

Wouldn't be shocked if we are in the middle of an American civil wsr by the end of the year.

I feel like for most of the protestors it's more of an excuse to leave the house and FOMO than it is about George's death. I don't think this would have happened without the disinhibition given by the anonymity of face masks either.

You can call it "pent up collective aggression" or whatever psychobabble you want to use to justify it but to me it's just people rioting because they were given an excuse. If there was a riot happening outside my door i'd probably join out of morbid curiosity too. I don't think it's a noble thing how weak and violent people are, especially if they're only doing it because they know they have relative impunity.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 29, 2020, 12:30:34 PM
leave trashy alone trolls, he's just auditioning for an episode of the :rogan podcast
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 29, 2020, 12:31:14 PM
I absolutely want to hear the Bro Jogan take on this
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 29, 2020, 12:32:04 PM
if i saw people getting gassed i would simply get gassed as well
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 12:32:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hOLm_k6eCs
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 29, 2020, 12:33:08 PM
if i saw people getting gassed i would simply get gassed as well

It's a gas. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 29, 2020, 12:33:45 PM
I absolutely want to hear the Bro Jogan take on this

he'll probably say shits fucked up, can't blame anyone for protesting, but you've gone to far, but not all cops are bad people or something like that

something that will piss off both his haters and dickriders in equal measure
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 29, 2020, 12:34:18 PM
I bet he goes off for five minutes calling them monkeys and animals
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 29, 2020, 12:37:44 PM
Jamie, pull up the video. Look at him taking the tv. You can't tell me that has anything to do with George Boyd. Just pure animal instinct.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 29, 2020, 12:40:02 PM
I haven’t watched or listened to an episode of Joe Rogan my entire life. :smug

Or any podcast that is not concerned with vidya for that matter. :expert
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 29, 2020, 12:42:32 PM
When even OJ, with his extensive history, is defending the riots you know you fucked up

https://twitter.com/TheRealOJ32/status/1266402686540210184

i mean some race riots and tension played a big part in him getting away with murder, no wonder he loves them :trumps
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on May 29, 2020, 12:43:00 PM
Wow, you're a fucking dumbass.

I just have a dim view of humanity, informed by the dim view I have of myself

:fbm

Anyway we are T-Minus 2 mins. Lets see how Biden fucks this one up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkZ12X9-Vc8
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: toku on May 29, 2020, 12:48:51 PM
didn't expect the thread to go in this direction with the wild racism but fuck it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36odfqA-Xqw
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Akala on May 29, 2020, 12:54:01 PM
justified. something needs to change.

have seen a lot of awful takes on this, but seems like I am seeing more agreement/empathy than usual, although that may be result of curation.

debated even commenting on as no one really cares about yet another white guy take but I think what's happening now has been amplified more by so much video of white people being held to a completely different set of rules...protesting things of far less importance in a manner that would have resulted in them being arrested /at best/ if the situation was flipped.

I don't really know how to fix the central problem of 'be less racist.' the obvious answer is we need to find a way to actually bring the police back to the community, but there is a real gulf at moment. like all other bullshit happening in the US it's being made worse by binary us v them mentality. motherfuck your thin blue line and increasing militarization.

short-term I think at a minimum there is no excuse at this point to not have body video on all officers at all times. there needs to be more penalty for footage disappearing conveniently, I don't think flipping the burden or proof is really the answer but it's getting to that point.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on May 29, 2020, 12:55:42 PM
didn't expect the thread to go in this direction with the wild racism but fuck it

Premium Lager did say fuck the police and justice for George though. He's a jabroni not a racist (unless he said some shit I didn't see)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 29, 2020, 12:57:07 PM
You haven't seen his you haven't seen a gypsy comments.   
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 29, 2020, 01:00:35 PM
It's just kind of funny because he was like "What's the Endlosung for Mexicans in the US, when is this going to be the last straw for them?" but then flips out when black people do some shit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on May 29, 2020, 01:05:53 PM
You haven't seen his you haven't seen a gypsy comments.

I don't go into the Make Memes Dank Again thread because I consider memes a lesser artform
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 29, 2020, 01:09:03 PM
Coronavirus is making a lot of things that would have taken years or decades to unfold to happen.

Wouldn't be shocked if we are in the middle of an American civil wsr by the end of the year.

I feel like for most of the protestors it's more of an excuse to leave the house and FOMO than it is about George's death. I don't think this would have happened without the disinhibition given by the anonymity of face masks either.

You can call it "pent up collective aggression" or whatever psychobabble you want to use to justify it but to me it's just people rioting because they were given an excuse. If there was a riot happening outside my door i'd probably join out of morbid curiosity too. I don't think it's a noble thing how weak and violent people are, especially if they're only doing it because they know they have relative impunity.

Shut the fuck up.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 29, 2020, 01:11:28 PM
When even OJ, with his extensive history, is defending the riots you know you fucked up

https://twitter.com/TheRealOJ32/status/1266402686540210184

Oj is a black man.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 29, 2020, 01:14:12 PM
I consider memes a lesser artform

Get on zoom - I'm about to go wild on your ass.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on May 29, 2020, 01:16:14 PM
He said it's "kinda a sad day".

I guess no day is truly sad when you know that all things being equal you'd be in jail for the brutal murder of your ex-wife and her friend.

I got zoom post it up man
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 29, 2020, 01:16:45 PM
Stop posting
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 29, 2020, 01:19:21 PM
I got zoom post it up man

I have taken a sobering minute and decided zoom violence is not the answer.  Instead, I propose that our most prominent dank meme posters form a committee to discuss our concerns with you and provide oversight to your posts.   
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on May 29, 2020, 01:22:33 PM
I got zoom post it up man

I have taken a sobering minute and decided zoom violence is not the answer.  Instead, I propose that our most prominent dank meme posters form a committee to discuss our concerns with you and provide oversight to your posts.

I await your correspondence.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 29, 2020, 01:24:54 PM
Ok, I'm like a bit busy to be on the committee myself as I have to work 0.5 jobs while also posting for myself.  I nominate filler and Esch though. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: brawndolicious on May 29, 2020, 01:37:17 PM
I was awake when the video of the CNN crew being arrested was posted and I have to say that was honestly the most chilling thing I have ever seen outcof the US. Hundreds of police officers were standing around in tactical gear and just lead national news journalists away in plastic handcuffs like they're looters or something.

If you ever need to point to a reason why so many think the whole system is broken, that's a perfect example. Law enforcement has no fear of being held accountable.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 29, 2020, 01:45:14 PM
(https://ventrellaquest.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/9e1fc035aa6110f48ac4e380d92a7adf.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Coffee Dog on May 29, 2020, 01:51:33 PM
Holy shit :existential

https://twitter.com/jason_paladino/status/1266399916978507779

i assume this isn't standard riot procedure
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on May 29, 2020, 01:51:39 PM
I haven’t watched or listened to an episode of Joe Rogan my entire life. :smug

Or any podcast that is not concerned with vidya for that matter. :expert

You should at least check out Hardcore History.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 29, 2020, 01:52:44 PM
My entire life is hardcore history, bich. :pacspit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 29, 2020, 01:52:53 PM
maybe it's a friendly drone, there to placate the crowd by dropping off anime and switch games
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on May 29, 2020, 01:55:57 PM
I haven’t watched or listened to an episode of Joe Rogan my entire life. :smug

Or any podcast that is not concerned with vidya for that matter. :expert

As a Norm Macdonald fan I had to listen to the Adam Eget episode a few days ago, but besides that I'm fairly clean.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 29, 2020, 01:58:39 PM
The drones are for surveillance but it's still crazy
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 29, 2020, 02:00:27 PM
My b
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on May 29, 2020, 02:01:18 PM
Did you actually think I was implying they were going to get missle'd out

Misclicks happen

:idont
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 29, 2020, 02:18:06 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/29/us/minneapolis-george-floyd-friday/index.html

Quote
The former Minneapolis police officer seen in a video with his knee on George Floyd's neck has been arrested and faces charges of third-degree murder and manslaughter, according to Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on May 29, 2020, 02:20:44 PM
Cool, but what about his bumfuck buddies that just stood by?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 29, 2020, 02:28:09 PM
https://twitter.com/EgyptianWeeknd/status/1266426294478258183
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 29, 2020, 02:29:40 PM
That's not true, the DA just said that they have enough evidence to charge now.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 29, 2020, 02:29:47 PM
are you fucking kidding me
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Akala on May 29, 2020, 02:30:52 PM
we'll see, that would be more on brand.

arrest won't mean anything without a conviction anyway.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 29, 2020, 02:32:03 PM
Trust some guy reporting from Egypt ::)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 02:34:24 PM
Trust some guy reporting from Egypt ::)

 :rodney
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 29, 2020, 02:41:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZI4MOC8pqI&feature=youtu.be

That's not true, the DA just said that they have enough evidence to charge now.

Being charged is not the same as being arrested IRC
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 29, 2020, 03:02:57 PM
https://twitter.com/webster/status/1266399876583047168

https://twitter.com/goblue1984/status/1266404416023867393

need more of this disorganization  8)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 29, 2020, 03:34:08 PM
 :pimp
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on May 29, 2020, 03:36:40 PM
Persian Directness  :pacspit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 29, 2020, 03:38:03 PM
 :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on May 29, 2020, 03:56:52 PM
Goddamn, I'm having a busy day at work and the riots start.  :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cryo on May 29, 2020, 04:11:39 PM
Goddamn, I'm having a busy day at work and the riots start.  :doge
stay at work you dumb biiiaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatch
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on May 29, 2020, 04:31:44 PM
I just ended my 11 hour work day to chill and shitpost and then I read about all these riots and stuff  :fbm

But I noticed something in the air today in the supermarket as well. Everyone seems on edge, sick of the lockdown, tired of the virus and slowly starting to realize the wider implications of this.
Clearly not videogamers keepin' it cool with their backlog  8)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: mormapope on May 29, 2020, 04:34:33 PM
I had to do a double take today that there are people that feel and genuinely believe, that black people in the United States haven't been diligently attempting peaceful and thoughtful forms of protest and discussion to improve conditions for themselves in the United States since the fucking 1800's. That this entire time, black people, impoverished people, minorities, have been dwindling thumbs, and needed great ole whitey to add some sense to the conversation.

Like, WHAT.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on May 29, 2020, 04:40:56 PM
if we’re being real, even the premise that violence has to be turned to only as a last resort is dumb
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on May 29, 2020, 04:41:41 PM
I had to do a double take today that there are people that feel and genuinely believe, that black people in the United States haven't been diligently attempting peaceful and thoughtful forms of protest and discussion to improve conditions for themselves in the United States since the fucking 1800's.

Like, WHAT.
And that's after they went outside to protest for a haircut  :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 29, 2020, 04:43:53 PM
I've yet to see proof that that's real
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 29, 2020, 04:55:38 PM
that's peak primary brain right there
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 29, 2020, 05:03:15 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/oRhy83v_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high)
https://twitter.com/derekcarrqb/status/1266429915118751744
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 29, 2020, 05:12:18 PM
'any potential intoxicatants'  - like why is that even in there.  Either they know about some, or they are just speculating. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 29, 2020, 05:13:22 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/29/us/george-floyd-new-video-officers-kneel-trnd/index.html
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 29, 2020, 05:19:59 PM
In the COVID19 era, pretty apropos that we're gonna see people blame this death on comorbidities.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: porkbun on May 29, 2020, 05:49:12 PM
Mandatory curfew in Minneapolis starting at 8 tonight.  Let's see how this goes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9vvzcS0fgI
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on May 29, 2020, 05:59:34 PM
underlying health conditions when getting insurance  :nope

underlying health conditions when killed by the cops  :ohyeah
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 29, 2020, 07:56:12 PM
https://twitter.com/pablo_boyyy/status/1266510391875563521

san ho :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 08:43:23 PM
https://twitter.com/JacksonianMedia/status/1266529501724446720
https://twitter.com/Dman7800/status/1266529139386912770
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 08:47:20 PM
https://twitter.com/SharifPaget/status/1266530094488616964
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 08:54:05 PM
Live footage:

https://www.wsbtv.com/live-breaking/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 29, 2020, 08:56:59 PM
:doge

They do realize Minneapolis is no where in Georgia, right? :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pennywise on May 29, 2020, 08:57:12 PM
https://twitter.com/j0ncampbell/status/1266514356071735296
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 29, 2020, 09:00:49 PM
Why was filler's post deleted?  ???
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 09:02:01 PM
Twitter is all over the place with this:

https://twitter.com/CAMSQUIAT/status/1266524912375730178
https://twitter.com/Leonce/status/1266524030292688896
https://twitter.com/IBringTheDeeps/status/1266530011881889793
https://twitter.com/_DubbleD/status/1266530642420006914

:dizzy
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 09:02:38 PM
Why was filler's post deleted?  ???

Because he was trying to be stupid before I got a chance to redo my post.  :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 29, 2020, 09:02:53 PM
:mods
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 29, 2020, 09:04:58 PM
 :kermit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 09:05:07 PM
I SEE YOU FILLER
:bolo
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 09:06:35 PM
https://twitter.com/DERIproducts_/status/1266527585145675782
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 09:08:39 PM
https://twitter.com/DrippinGrapes/status/1266530275653287936
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: curly on May 29, 2020, 09:08:53 PM
Sort of surprised I expected thebore degenerates to be more pro-riot
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 29, 2020, 09:08:55 PM
Quote
the world is literally FED TF UP

Even in times of upheaval, people can't stop with their American jingoism.  :stahp
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 09:09:38 PM
https://twitter.com/Jennifer__Brett/status/1266511846380654593
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 09:11:50 PM
https://twitter.com/ajc/status/1266499559292878848
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BlueTsunami on May 29, 2020, 09:11:54 PM
(https://abload.de/img/tumblr_ffa464c907bae00tkzm.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=tumblr_ffa464c907bae00tkzm.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 09:13:03 PM
https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1266537584735539200
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: curly on May 29, 2020, 09:16:36 PM
Sort of surprised I expected thebore degenerates to be more pro-riot

You know it's always contrarian to whatever era thinks. Era is pro-riot, therefor shit thread is anti-riot.

 :lol I should have known
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 29, 2020, 09:17:35 PM
i am for all riots

i just want to watch the world burn

joker.jpg
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 09:17:49 PM
https://twitter.com/wsbtv/status/1266538044833832960
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 29, 2020, 09:19:04 PM
nice choice of shirt, killer mike
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on May 29, 2020, 09:20:26 PM
i got you curly www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5m2ATvd_L8
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 09:22:18 PM
Live footage is showing a lone white dude hitting already-broken glass with his skateboard while a bunch of people stand around filming him.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 29, 2020, 09:23:37 PM
Is it Justice Yeldham? cause that's how his concerts usually go
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 09:25:57 PM
Am not sure where it is that this crowd is "attacking" but while this is going on one half the screen, the other half is people telling everyone not to be violent.

Do they not have anything else to show?  This is literally a cameraman filming people who are standing there taking photos/footage with their phones.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 09:27:16 PM
Ah OK, it's the CNN Center and there's police on the other side of the doors. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 09:27:54 PM
Seeing gas cannisters getting thrown.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 29, 2020, 09:29:24 PM
get out there and moderate, bork  :smug
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 09:30:26 PM
Holy shit, they're serious now. Looks like they're gassing even the "peaceful" areas where people weren't doing anything.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 09:32:23 PM
TV commentary from the mayor: "If you're breaking windows with liquor in your hand, who are you honoring?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tasty on May 29, 2020, 09:33:46 PM
get out there and moderate, bork  :smug

AMAB
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 09:36:16 PM
https://twitter.com/AlisonWSB/status/1266542859030802434
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 09:37:46 PM
https://twitter.com/WSBTraffic/status/1266542384063623168
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 29, 2020, 09:39:20 PM
forgot bork lives in Atlanta, stay safe breh
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 09:40:11 PM
forgot bork lives in Atlanta, stay safe breh

I'm on the edge of the 'burbs.  Nice and quiet here.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 29, 2020, 09:40:27 PM
I couldn't help but watch it and think whoa, if this guy wasn't a fucking pig I'd want to see him in the octagon. It was a classic submission move. Yea. Fuck. Holy shit Jamie, did you hear that new Freddie Gibbs & Alchemist album? It's immaculate.
(http://www.thebore.com/forum/Smileys/default/rogan1a.png)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 09:45:13 PM
https://twitter.com/EgyptianWeeknd/status/1266543058805501952
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 29, 2020, 09:46:54 PM
there was a large explosion alright... in my pants
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 09:48:03 PM
A reporter is right in the middle of some of the chaos, showing another car on fire and people breaking into a Starbucks.  Some of the people behind her are fucking crazy and trolling the camera  :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 29, 2020, 09:48:21 PM
forgot bork lives in Atlanta, stay safe breh

I'm on the edge of the 'burbs.  Nice and quiet here.

A perfect time to light it on fire then. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on May 29, 2020, 09:49:02 PM
there was a large explosion alright... in my pants

What do protester win by attacking the HQ of the news network that just (unintentionally, being fair) just give them the best publicity and good will this morning?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 09:49:34 PM
A small group is behind her, yelling and flipping off the camera.   She can't do her job right now, damn. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 29, 2020, 09:51:22 PM
go bash her head in, bork!  :drool
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 29, 2020, 09:52:53 PM
Real mods murder in the real realm. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 09:54:09 PM
go bash her head in, bork! :hyper

 :iface
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on May 29, 2020, 09:57:09 PM
Bork holding his little girl anime pillow extra hard tonight  :'(
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 09:58:21 PM
Bork holding his little girl anime pillow extra hard tonight  :'(

No pedo
 :donot
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 09:59:11 PM
Fires seem to be getting worse and it's getting more violent, damn.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 29, 2020, 10:03:56 PM
https://twitter.com/JamesAGagliano/status/1266545935905173504
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 10:04:46 PM
Reporters seem to be surprised that the rioters don't care that Killer Mike and T.I. told them to go home.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 29, 2020, 10:05:14 PM
yessss at long last protesters are being direct about this shit. no more standing around chanting at an empty police station; burn that motherfucker down
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 10:05:29 PM
More tear gas.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 10:09:16 PM
The same reporter from earlier is now standing in the middle of the tear gas, coughing, and describing how her eyes are burning.  She just ran off.  :lol  This is not her night.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on May 29, 2020, 10:09:38 PM
yessss at long last protesters are being direct about this shit. no more standing around chanting at an empty police station; burn that motherfucker down

Why attack the CNN building?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 29, 2020, 10:10:29 PM
yessss at long last protesters are being direct about this shit. no more standing around chanting at an empty police station; burn that motherfucker down

Why attack the CNN building?
it's fake news  :trumps
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 10:11:44 PM
yessss at long last protesters are being direct about this shit. no more standing around chanting at an empty police station; burn that motherfucker down

Why attack the CNN building?

There's a police precinct there.  Maybe that's why?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on May 29, 2020, 10:11:46 PM
I asked him, not you fake ass, filler.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 29, 2020, 10:12:20 PM
https://twitter.com/MervHuber/status/1266549944816742401
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on May 29, 2020, 10:13:27 PM
yessss at long last protesters are being direct about this shit. no more standing around chanting at an empty police station; burn that motherfucker down

Why attack the CNN building?

There's a police precinct there.  Maybe that's why?

But why going against CNN when just in the morning a reporter was arrested for nothing?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 29, 2020, 10:13:40 PM
yessss at long last protesters are being direct about this shit. no more standing around chanting at an empty police station; burn that motherfucker down

Why attack the CNN building?

yes why attack a shitty media corporate company led by some fuckfaces that deliberately worked to move the national conversation to the right, that buries all anti-corporate politics, and who've already said they don't care about the consequences of promoting trump and other fascists and white supremacists because they make good money off it?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 10:14:20 PM
https://twitter.com/MervHuber/status/1266549944816742401

:mindblown
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 10:15:39 PM
yessss at long last protesters are being direct about this shit. no more standing around chanting at an empty police station; burn that motherfucker down

Why attack the CNN building?

There's a police precinct there.  Maybe that's why?

But why going against CNN when just in the morning a reporter was arrested for nothing?

Why attack any of the stores/restaurants in the same area that have nothing to do with anything?  I saw mindless graffiti tags, too.  Some of the people are having fun destroying shit. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 29, 2020, 10:16:17 PM
https://twitter.com/JamesAGagliano/status/1266547580663709696
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 29, 2020, 10:16:52 PM
our institutions are failing rapidly; the right has realized this for a while and is taking full advantage to push for fascism. the left and center still has lots of "trust the system!!" goobers who chooses to ignore that the systems don't do shit anymore but provide cash and power for any asshole who wants it enough. that's why no one is giving a fuck that they "arrested" the cop because we've all seen this sham play out way too often in recent years.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on May 29, 2020, 10:17:03 PM
yessss at long last protesters are being direct about this shit. no more standing around chanting at an empty police station; burn that motherfucker down

Why attack the CNN building?

yes why attack a shitty media corporate company led by some fuckfaces that deliberately worked to move the national conversation to the right, that buries all anti-corporate politics, and who've already said they don't care about the consequences of promoting trump and other fascists and white supremacists because they make good money off it?

Fox News?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 29, 2020, 10:18:00 PM
Rember CNN before it became enemy number 1 for Trump?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on May 29, 2020, 10:18:30 PM
our institutions are failing rapidly; the right has realized this for a while and is taking full advantage to push for fascism. the left and center still has lots of "trust the system!!" goobers who chooses to ignore that the systems don't do shit anymore but provide cash and power for any asshole who wants it enough. that's why no one is giving a fuck that they "arrested" the cop because we've all seen this sham play out way too often in recent years.

Go there to fucking get arrested then, at least you will get consistent with what you believe. Real talk.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 10:18:39 PM
The anchor is asking the reporter to ask random people again if T.I. and Killer Mike telling people to go home means anything.  News flash: They don't care.  They at least just got someone who is making a point this time, saying "how else are we supposed to get our point across?"
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: curly on May 29, 2020, 10:19:35 PM
remember the days when things didn't happen

that was crazy
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 29, 2020, 10:20:12 PM
The anchor is asking the reporter to ask random people again if T.I. and Killer Mike telling people to go home means anything.  News flash: They don't care.  They at least just got someone who is making a point this time, saying "how else are we supposed to get our point across?"

Why are you torturing yourself with Clinton News Network and other news networks? Get some coffee, kiss your wife and stay up with a gun in case they head your way.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on May 29, 2020, 10:20:38 PM
Rember CNN before it became enemy number 1 for Trump?

I remember Fox News sucking Trump dick at daily basis since before the election and its staff actually being involved in Trump policy.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 29, 2020, 10:21:40 PM
our institutions are failing rapidly; the right has realized this for a while and is taking full advantage to push for fascism. the left and center still has lots of "trust the system!!" goobers who chooses to ignore that the systems don't do shit anymore but provide cash and power for any asshole who wants it enough. that's why no one is giving a fuck that they "arrested" the cop because we've all seen this sham play out way too often in recent years.

Go there to fucking get arrested then, at least you will get consistent with what you believe. Real talk.

i've been going to more protests than i can remember for decades now, so i'm certainly not all talk. go on and keep believing in the systems and democracy while the leaders of this country make it clearer and clearer every day that they don't give a fuck about any of that so long as they make millions.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on May 29, 2020, 10:22:55 PM
our institutions are failing rapidly; the right has realized this for a while and is taking full advantage to push for fascism. the left and center still has lots of "trust the system!!" goobers who chooses to ignore that the systems don't do shit anymore but provide cash and power for any asshole who wants it enough. that's why no one is giving a fuck that they "arrested" the cop because we've all seen this sham play out way too often in recent years.

Go there to fucking get arrested then, at least you will get consistent with what you believe. Real talk.

i've been going to more protests than i can remember for decades now, so i'm certainly not all talk. go on and keep believing in the systems and democracy while the leaders of this country make it clearer and clearer every day that they don't give a fuck about any of that so long as they make millions.

Go at this one. Don’t pull a Mekanos and said you will but the Covid :( .
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 29, 2020, 10:23:18 PM
boredfrom is a landlord ::)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 10:23:35 PM
The anchor is asking the reporter to ask random people again if T.I. and Killer Mike telling people to go home means anything.  News flash: They don't care.  They at least just got someone who is making a point this time, saying "how else are we supposed to get our point across?"

Why are you torturing yourself with Clinton News Network and other news networks? Get some coffee, kiss your wife and stay up with a gun in case they head your way.

I'm watching the local CBS news.  Want to see what's going on- the most saddening thing about it is seeing the mindless destruction going on.  Destroying a hotel lobby- Why?  :-\
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 29, 2020, 10:23:55 PM
Rember CNN before it became enemy number 1 for Trump?

I remember Fox News sucking Trump dick at daily basis since before the election and its staff actually being involved in Trump policy.

I mean I honestly hope that all of Fox News dies, but the point is CNN isn't a good network just because they are anti-trump.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on May 29, 2020, 10:26:16 PM
Rember CNN before it became enemy number 1 for Trump?

I remember Fox News sucking Trump dick at daily basis since before the election and its staff actually being involved in Trump policy.

I mean I honestly hope that all of Fox News dies, but the point is CNN isn't a good network just because they are anti-trump.

What is pragmatism?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 29, 2020, 10:26:33 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/X6ngeOt.jpg) :kermit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 10:28:29 PM
The anchor quoting T.I. again, saying "Atlanta is our Wakanda- don't lose it." 
:dizzy

Some guy with a bottle in his hand just went up behind the reporter and started dancing.   :lol  This is exactly what the mayor was talking about earlier. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 10:29:22 PM
The anchor is asking the reporter to ask random people again if T.I. and Killer Mike telling people to go home means anything.  News flash: They don't care.  They at least just got someone who is making a point this time, saying "how else are we supposed to get our point across?"

Why are you torturing yourself with Clinton News Network and other news networks? Get some coffee, kiss your wife and stay up with a gun in case they head your way.

I'm watching the local CBS news.  Want to see what's going on- the most saddening thing about it is seeing the mindless destruction going on.  Destroying a hotel lobby- Why?  :-\

Saddening

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZNOrKud4s0
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 29, 2020, 10:29:32 PM
Rember CNN before it became enemy number 1 for Trump?

I remember Fox News sucking Trump dick at daily basis since before the election and its staff actually being involved in Trump policy.

I mean I honestly hope that all of Fox News dies, but the point is CNN isn't a good network just because they are anti-trump.

What is pragmatism?

Consider the practical effects of the objects of your conception. Then, your conception of those effects is the whole of your conception of the object
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 10:31:41 PM
They think people are going to be behind the ATL police when all is said and done.  Uh...
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on May 29, 2020, 10:31:48 PM
Rember CNN before it became enemy number 1 for Trump?

I remember Fox News sucking Trump dick at daily basis since before the election and its staff actually being involved in Trump policy.

I mean I honestly hope that all of Fox News dies, but the point is CNN isn't a good network just because they are anti-trump.

What is pragmatism?

Consider the practical effects of the objects of your conception. Then, your conception of those effects is the whole of your conception of the object

Coward.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 29, 2020, 10:33:41 PM
I asked him, not you fake ass, filler.
https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1266554383560372224

 ;)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on May 29, 2020, 10:34:18 PM
boredfrom is a landlord ::)

Don’t start with this shit.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 29, 2020, 10:34:42 PM
:umad
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 29, 2020, 10:35:12 PM
Rember CNN before it became enemy number 1 for Trump?

I remember Fox News sucking Trump dick at daily basis since before the election and its staff actually being involved in Trump policy.

I mean I honestly hope that all of Fox News dies, but the point is CNN isn't a good network just because they are anti-trump.

What is pragmatism?

Consider the practical effects of the objects of your conception. Then, your conception of those effects is the whole of your conception of the object

Coward.

landlord.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 29, 2020, 10:35:41 PM
https://twitter.com/berniebromanny/status/1266528183454699521
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 29, 2020, 10:36:19 PM
go out there and protect the starbucks from those evil looters, brave boredfrom
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 29, 2020, 10:38:24 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZOv7ryWsAMB01X?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 29, 2020, 10:38:33 PM
boredfrom is a landlord ::)

Don’t start with this shit.
lord of the land  :tophat :piss2
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: mormapope on May 29, 2020, 10:38:43 PM
Let's get a playlist going

https://youtu.be/XsYrGKn14jI
https://youtu.be/VeeF1Mw093U
https://youtu.be/Tgzo1fC49RY
https://youtu.be/BX-7BlRc_a0
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on May 29, 2020, 10:39:24 PM
Rember CNN before it became enemy number 1 for Trump?

I remember Fox News sucking Trump dick at daily basis since before the election and its staff actually being involved in Trump policy.

I mean I honestly hope that all of Fox News dies, but the point is CNN isn't a good network just because they are anti-trump.

What is pragmatism?

Consider the practical effects of the objects of your conception. Then, your conception of those effects is the whole of your conception of the object

Coward.

landlord.

Yeah, because that saved a family member from dying partially because of Covid this week. So privileged that my cousin died because she couldn’t get her tumor removed because a covid diagnosis.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on May 29, 2020, 10:40:27 PM
https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1266555492681342976

 :mindblown
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 29, 2020, 10:41:28 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZOv7ryWsAMB01X?format=jpg&name=small)
2020: The Year We Fight Bork :punch
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 29, 2020, 10:49:49 PM
Rember CNN before it became enemy number 1 for Trump?

I remember Fox News sucking Trump dick at daily basis since before the election and its staff actually being involved in Trump policy.

I mean I honestly hope that all of Fox News dies, but the point is CNN isn't a good network just because they are anti-trump.

What is pragmatism?

Consider the practical effects of the objects of your conception. Then, your conception of those effects is the whole of your conception of the object

Coward.

landlord.

Yeah, because that saved a family member from dying partially because of Covid this week. So privileged that my cousin died because she couldn’t get her tumor removed because a covid diagnosis.

Sorry for your loss man
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 29, 2020, 10:50:09 PM
Told my mom CNN was getting destroyed. My parents are too busy watching a two year old Live PD rerun. :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 29, 2020, 10:55:11 PM
The anchor quoting T.I. again, saying "Atlanta is our Wakanda- don't lose it." 
:dizzy

(https://i.redd.it/0kin9n55nyf21.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 29, 2020, 11:00:24 PM
Told my mom CNN was getting destroyed. My parents are too busy watching a two year old Live PD rerun. :lol
tell them the fake news is getting annihilated  :smug
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 29, 2020, 11:01:14 PM
Isn't Atlanta where there are more wealthy / business owner black people than anywhere else in America?
More black small business tyrants than anywhere else
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 29, 2020, 11:01:47 PM
Isn't Atlanta where there are more wealthy / business owner black people than anywhere else in America?

Yes but their main target afaik has been CNN police station.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 11:01:49 PM
Isn't Atlanta where there are more wealthy / business owner black people than anywhere else in America?

Memphis and Montgomery have more black owned businesses.  Atlanta is #3.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 29, 2020, 11:02:58 PM
Isn't Atlanta where there are more wealthy / business owner black people than anywhere else in America?

https://twitter.com/Hi_Im_Brittney/status/1266549121370001410
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 29, 2020, 11:05:51 PM
Isn't Atlanta where there are more wealthy / business owner black people than anywhere else in America?

https://twitter.com/Hi_Im_Brittney/status/1266549121370001410
what side does bork live on?  :gurl
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on May 29, 2020, 11:06:45 PM
our institutions are failing rapidly; the right has realized this for a while and is taking full advantage to push for fascism. the left and center still has lots of "trust the system!!" goobers who chooses to ignore that the systems don't do shit anymore but provide cash and power for any asshole who wants it enough. that's why no one is giving a fuck that they "arrested" the cop because we've all seen this sham play out way too often in recent years.

Go there to fucking get arrested then, at least you will get consistent with what you believe. Real talk.

i've been going to more protests than i can remember for decades now, so i'm certainly not all talk. go on and keep believing in the systems and democracy while the leaders of this country make it clearer and clearer every day that they don't give a fuck about any of that so long as they make millions.

Go at this one. Don’t pull a Mekanos and said you will but the Covid :( .

My dude, the majority of people here outside of the shit thread don’t know who the fuck a mekanos is. Hell I didn’t know till I just checked the shit thread. Going “you sound a little like reeeera” to anybody here isn’t going to work because it’s legitimately a dumb argument.

I usually don’t do that but Positive Touch has been in that thread recently so  :yeshrug

Whatever, I already said my part and is not like I’m going to convince anybody of anything.  :goty

Quote
Sorry for what happened to your cousin, man. My condolences.

Appreciated.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 29, 2020, 11:07:04 PM
Isn't Atlanta where there are more wealthy / business owner black people than anywhere else in America?

https://twitter.com/Hi_Im_Brittney/status/1266549121370001410

https://mobile.twitter.com/Teemann_Gearing/status/1266556410311118850
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 29, 2020, 11:08:17 PM
https://twitter.com/ChrisBishopL1C4/status/1266546753182056453

Dunno if that got posted yet or whatever but holy shit man :dead
https://twitter.com/TheRealOJ32/status/1266563759503339520
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 29, 2020, 11:10:27 PM
I don't really see Wakanda as a hugely integrated multicultural society considering you know... blood monarchy hiding from the world and all.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 29, 2020, 11:13:29 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/oRhy83v_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high)
https://twitter.com/PeteButtigieg/status/1266498087192875016
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 29, 2020, 11:17:03 PM
Quote
Location
Equatorial Africa, it is located directly in the middle of the the African nations of Narobia, Uganda, Kenya, Somalia, and Ethiopia.
Quote
National Defense: The Wakandan army is the country's main ground forces, while the Wakandan Navy oversees naval operations. The Wakandan Air Guard is the Nations air force, which includes pilots wearing powerful suits of combat armor. Specialized forces includes the Panther Guard (aka "Panther Posse"). The Hatut Zeraze ("Dogs of War")was formerly the nation's secret police; although it was officially disband, they continue to operate in what they believe is their homeland's best interest. The Dora Milaje are the kings personal bodyguards.
why does Wakanda have a Navy if it's landlocked? :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 29, 2020, 11:19:02 PM
https://twitter.com/Dakarai_Turner/status/1266549838788902914

 :money
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 29, 2020, 11:23:44 PM
:money
the guy in the white cap must have magic powers
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 29, 2020, 11:24:56 PM
https://twitter.com/ChrisBishopL1C4/status/1266546753182056453

Dunno if that got posted yet or whatever but holy shit man :dead
https://twitter.com/TheRealOJ32/status/1266563759503339520

Hero cop Mark Fuhrman :tocry
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 29, 2020, 11:32:07 PM
I'd say this is finally it, but I literally couldn't tell you how many big riots/protests I've seen broadcast on TV or livestreamed over the past 5 years and they always seem like the big one but everything goes back to normal a few days later. But this time it does feel like a real breaking point.

This is not a breaking point.  Though if you guys light a Trump tower on fire that would be nice.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 29, 2020, 11:36:52 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/GPkvCPf/ezgif-4-b81e6f3ff908.gif)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ShutUp on May 29, 2020, 11:45:03 PM
Damn right in the balls. I both felt that and chuckled at the same time.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 29, 2020, 11:45:11 PM
Derek Chauvin's wife just filed for divorce :heh
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on May 29, 2020, 11:48:15 PM
https://twitter.com/EgyptianWeeknd/status/1266545748440756225
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 29, 2020, 11:50:05 PM
Derek Chauvin's wife just filed for divorce :heh

From a reddit comment - protects money incase he gets sued. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 29, 2020, 11:59:02 PM
Derek Chauvin's wife just filed for divorce :heh

From a reddit comment - protects money incase he gets sued.

Link to reddit threads man
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 30, 2020, 12:01:46 AM
ATL riot still going- happening now in other areas including Buckhead, where a lot of upscale shops/restaurants are.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 12:02:09 AM
But then how will I looked informed if you all know what I'm parroting?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis/comments/grycfj/megathread_minneapolis_protests/
https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/gt4313/nationwide_protests_for_george_floyd_megathread_2/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 30, 2020, 12:03:41 AM
Been sitting on the balcony all day trying to get my skin tanned as possible. Gonna order an ancestry.com DNA test too so I’m prepared for when the race war begins. I’m about to be the Snape of this shit (Harry Potter series streaming on HBO MAX). White people are gonna be like “He’s with us!” Wrong bitch. I was never with you, goddamn devils. I have a black sister. My mom is Asian. I am the half-blood prince.

...So what you're saying is:

You ain't black™. :thinking

ATL riot still going- happening now in other areas including Buckhead, where a lot of upscale shops/restaurants are.

Stay safe</Era™>. Make sure you have some coffee for this long-night if you're worried they'll reach your area.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 30, 2020, 12:03:47 AM
https://twitter.com/wsbtv/status/1266575632189861888
https://twitter.com/JamariJones_ATL/status/1266572626950008834
https://twitter.com/newsworthy17/status/1266576732284432384
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 30, 2020, 12:08:15 AM
https://twitter.com/DosRivers/status/1266553322707681281
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 30, 2020, 12:15:21 AM
The same reporter from earlier is now standing in the middle of the tear gas, coughing, and describing how her eyes are burning.  She just ran off.  :lol  This is not her night.

They just went back to her again.  She started talking and the feed froze up.  :lol
:dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 12:22:00 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/gabrielyadel/status/1266524998702739456
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 12:24:49 AM
how I supposed to plz look at it if the camera turns away right during it :rage
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 30, 2020, 12:25:48 AM
Cops in Louisville just straight up shooting CNN reporters, live on TV. No fucks given.

https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1266552262563954695
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 12:27:08 AM
https://twitter.com/BillFOXLA/status/1266584194060136449
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 12:28:31 AM
The LA protests were pretty small anyway
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 30, 2020, 12:33:08 AM
https://twitter.com/trackingalex_/status/1266005901175119878
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 30, 2020, 12:34:40 AM
https://twitter.com/zellnor4ny/status/1266538790446825472
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 30, 2020, 12:35:49 AM
https://twitter.com/ajc/status/1266587222461091840
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 30, 2020, 12:36:33 AM
https://twitter.com/ben_brasch/status/1266585963209330688
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 30, 2020, 12:38:10 AM
https://twitter.com/ben_brasch/status/1266587834263232516
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 30, 2020, 12:38:32 AM
https://twitter.com/ben_brasch/status/1266588774173216769
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 30, 2020, 12:40:33 AM
https://twitter.com/ben_brasch/status/1266585963209330688

Looting a Taco Bell could start a Bore civil war. Some would form a militia to protect it, some would want to seize the means of living mas. :existential
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on May 30, 2020, 12:42:49 AM
https://twitter.com/sherlyholmes/status/1266587267667091457
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 12:43:34 AM
https://twitter.com/whitney_hu/status/1266540710188195843
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: eleuin on May 30, 2020, 12:58:28 AM
https://twitter.com/BrianArizona/status/1266546913605640192
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 12:58:55 AM
twitter.com/wsbtv/status/1266538044833832960

The shirt he's wearing :lawd
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 30, 2020, 12:59:36 AM
Embrace the punk rock chaos route, this is the road to class consciousness

I get where you're going with this but punk rock is probably not the best avatar for cross-ethnic solidarity.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on May 30, 2020, 01:01:01 AM
Embrace the punk rock chaos route, this is the road to class consciousness

I get where you're going with this but punk rock is probably not the best avatar for cross-ethnic solidarity.

:nintendo
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 01:01:20 AM
Clearly you haven't heard about Bad Brains and ummm ...
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 30, 2020, 01:01:24 AM
I just hope my boy filler will be able to get himself a free Switch the next few days. :tocry
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on May 30, 2020, 01:02:28 AM
https://twitter.com/mentnelson/status/1266569363588616192


Not sure it's having quite the impact here.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 01:08:59 AM
found stost, he's trying to increase the money supply

https://twitter.com/robaeprice/status/1266591583354273792
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 01:09:59 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So_BMLD_D-4&feature=emb_logo

a Fox hunt i support -12-13 mins
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 30, 2020, 01:11:24 AM
It's ok to be wrong mike

Shut the fuck up

My uncle is a cop you don't see me coming to bat
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 01:17:22 AM
I'm anti-police state too, maybe I can be the avatar for cross-ethnic solidarity.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 30, 2020, 01:18:25 AM
I mean, I get what Mike is saying but I'm too mad to care
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 01:19:40 AM
Saw someone in Minneapolis waving the flag of the socialist republic of Vietnam ??? :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 01:24:17 AM
I mostly agree with Mandark but I will at least note that rock against racism was a primarily punk rock movement as well.

Mandark is an old fogey who is probably thinking about the 70's British punk scene
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 01:25:12 AM
I agree with Mike but I also think it's hilarious how many of his songs literally talk about killing police officers and when shit gets real he gets in front of a camera crying and tells people to get excited to vote :lol why talk all that shit if you're going to punk out

and that "kill your masters" shirt, like at least change into a cardigan if you're going to go soft :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 30, 2020, 01:26:16 AM
Saw someone in Minneapolis waving the flag of the socialist republic of Vietnam ??? :lol

I am always mildly amused when I see people waving the three arrows flag of the Iron Front
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 01:26:24 AM
Saw someone in Minneapolis waving the flag of the socialist republic of Vietnam ??? :lol

America wishes it was Vietnam right now.  Too bad they didn't press their victory all the way to the Whitehouse, like the Candians did.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 30, 2020, 01:26:46 AM
I mostly agree with Mandark but I will at least note that rock against racism was a primarily punk rock movement as well.

Mandark is an old fogey who is probably thinking about the 70's British punk scene

70's Britain is where Rock Against Racism happened, ya dingus.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 01:27:35 AM
Is that when you were in highschool?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 01:29:46 AM
I mostly agree with Mandark but I will at least note that rock against racism was a primarily punk rock movement as well.

Mandark is an old fogey who is probably thinking about the 70's British punk scene

70's Britain is where Rock Against Racism happened, ya dingus.

Well you would know.   I only really know about the 90's punk scene because I am young and youthful. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 01:30:29 AM
Mayor Bottoms just now: "TI and Killer Mike own half of west side."

No wonder they're telling people to go home :hmm
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 30, 2020, 01:32:00 AM
As weird as it may sound today, seeing how the movement developed, the early Skinhead movemenr is a better example of cross-ethnic solidarity in youth subculture.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 30, 2020, 01:32:59 AM
Is that when you were in highschool?

this was before mandatory schooling and child labor laws, I worked in the Takes mine
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 01:34:12 AM
As weird as it may sound today, seeing how the movement developed, the early Skinhead movemenr is a better example of cross-ethnic solidarity in youth subculture.

Is this what skinhead moonstomp is about?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 01:35:52 AM
Run The Jewelz does not suck.  I listen to it to get amped.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 30, 2020, 01:38:00 AM
Read Settlers. (http://www.mariabuszek.com/mariabuszek/kcai/PoMoSeminar/Readings/BangsWhite.pdf)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 01:44:30 AM
The more I think about this Killer Mike thing the more hilarious it gets, not just because it goes against his entire image, but just, like... TI and Killer Mike will commercialize their identity for years and years and years and talk about how they're modern slaves but as soon as their cotton plantation runs into trouble they bring out the waterworks and demand everyone stop what they're doing :lol

TI has a net worth of $50 million dollars, functionally he has nothing in common with anybody out there burning cars.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 01:47:32 AM
who did he kill to get the Killer Mike tag?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 01:48:52 AM
the mic  ;)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 01:49:15 AM
also everyone here mispelling Run the Jewels is definitely a poser
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 30, 2020, 01:51:11 AM
It's Arvie. Spelling's not his thing.

He wrote "Candians" on this page.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 01:52:47 AM
https://twitter.com/daviddebolt/status/1266597457267326977


https://twitter.com/daviddebolt/status/1266598661867225088


 :jawalrus
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 01:54:18 AM
speaking of George's and police, what's George Zimmermann take on all this? on COVID-19? on the economy?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 01:57:15 AM
In my defense 1) The Z was to better follow Wrath's post and 2) I haven't listened to Run the Jewelz since '17 because I've been too down to get amped up.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 02:00:08 AM
Somebody who doesn't own "half of west side":

(https://i.redd.it/rmql43r1yp151.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: eleuin on May 30, 2020, 02:10:09 AM
https://twitter.com/NedWhat/status/1266515656037588992

 :mynicca
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 02:11:05 AM
https://twitter.com/MutualAid4a/status/1266609136051126272


https://twitter.com/Terrence_STR/status/1266603167401336833


(https://i.imgur.com/rMfHr4x.png)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on May 30, 2020, 02:12:55 AM
https://twitter.com/NedWhat/status/1266515656037588992

 :mynicca

Black Amish dude.   Cross-ethnic solidarity discussion is now over. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 02:14:03 AM
Not until I see him in a punk band.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 02:17:08 AM
https://twitter.com/GoadGatsby/status/1266560467364909057

 :rejoice
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 02:18:56 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CAzSOtGlKQY/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 02:24:49 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CAzP2ITgiDQ/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 02:26:02 AM
https://twitter.com/SophNar0747/status/1266178599079510016

 :bernie
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 02:29:20 AM
https://twitter.com/A_Flawed_King/status/1266616344910237696
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on May 30, 2020, 03:03:20 AM
I’m on mobile, but has anyone noticed that they’ve been actively fucking with the media when they’ve been out of the way?

Some asshole broke the line and  was shooting pellets at a news anchor and her cameraperson, and of course the infamous CNN reporter takedown.

This cocky agitation will only fan the flames of anger, but the police are blindly, with no self-awareness, using this as an open check experience to live out the power fantasy of their dreams

Fucking disgusting

Just like the protestors though.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 03:07:06 AM
https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1266619812211560449
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 03:13:24 AM
haha protesters go riot :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 03:14:41 AM
They just want to go home to their families at night.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 03:15:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPP6XAsPbz8
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on May 30, 2020, 03:17:48 AM
Gotta say I am very surprised at the lack of death/ firearm usage so far (from the protestor's side). I though everyone and their grandma had a gun? If they manage to breach the White House without casualties than i'd consider this protest a success.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 30, 2020, 03:19:22 AM
Tremendous riots, the best in history by far, Obama never had riots as great as these :trumps
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 03:20:41 AM
In TDKR when they literally had every single cop go down into the sewers except Gordon and Robin I laughed. True story.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on May 30, 2020, 03:24:47 AM
If they manage to breach the White House without casualties than i'd consider this protest a success.
In the land down under toilet water spins the opposite way, I imagine what qualifies as success runs the same way.

I don't get it.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 03:27:08 AM
The Coriolis effect isn't strong enough to effect toilet flush direction. :kermit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 30, 2020, 03:46:29 AM
The more I think about this Killer Mike thing the more hilarious it gets, not just because it goes against his entire image, but just, like... TI and Killer Mike will commercialize their identity for years and years and years and talk about how they're modern slaves but as soon as their cotton plantation runs into trouble they bring out the waterworks and demand everyone stop what they're doing :lol

TI has a net worth of $50 million dollars, functionally he has nothing in common with anybody out there burning cars.

word it's fucking hilarous

Killer Mike got a famous speech about revolution and here the folks are burning down police stations and he like "this ain't the way to do it :tocry"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM0wBiSGW-8

:confused

This makes him look completely illegitimate in my eyes now and makes me think he's a massive fucking fake.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 03:48:17 AM
I wonder what's the next point to move onto :zzz
Just go to the best source and get it in real time, Gateway Pundit:
(https://i.imgur.com/BdosyUq.png)(https://i.imgur.com/JAIdSsF.png)(https://i.imgur.com/OMDeCKd.png)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 30, 2020, 03:55:23 AM
Set Trump tower ablaze :mynicca Send the word.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 30, 2020, 03:58:15 AM
https://twitter.com/S0lldus/status/1266605334669524993
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 04:10:27 AM
They aren't here because we're all old farts but I'm being amused by some of the reactions seemingly all over where you can tell it's the persons first real "police" encounter videos and shit, they're all like "wow the police give no fucks about 'citizen journalists' yelling 'PRESS PRESS' as they pepper spray everyone in sight" or "wow, police really don't care about if protesters are gonna get hurt!" or "wow, the police really think they're above the law when dealing with 'civilians' they dislike!"

to me it feels like not all that long ago that that pepper spraying cop (from was it the first BLM protests?) was a meme being shopped into everything
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on May 30, 2020, 04:19:31 AM
Just like the protestors though.

Yeah yeah we get it, you ask the "tough questions" by being a contrarian on every single topic. Just shut the fuck up already.

But it was okay for me to be contraian when you liked what I had to say (when your emotions weren't as inflamed...)

Don't tell me to FFFUUUCCCCKKK OFFFFFF

This makes him look completely illegitimate in my eyes now and makes me think he's a massive fucking fake.

Is it any different from Bernie endorsing Biden?

People gotta do what they gotta do.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 04:21:35 AM
The Periscope for the WhiteHouse protests was handled by some 3x year old journalist and he "couldn't believe" that they were pepper spraying people, and he "couldn't believe" that people were throwing bricks and that barricades were being affected. It's mostly likely to illicit reaction
Whenever I see footage of protests and there's always that one dude doing it, it just reminds me of the "THERE'S A DONKEY KONG KILL SCREEN COMING UP" guy for some reason.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on May 30, 2020, 04:30:14 AM
Just like the protestors though.

Yeah yeah we get it, you ask the "tough questions" by being a contrarian on every single topic. Just shut the fuck up already.

But it was okay for me to be contraian when you liked what I had to say (when your emotions weren't as inflamed...)

Don't tell me to FFFUUUCCCCKKK OFFFFFF

Where? I'm genuinely asking cause I understand you're too dumb to comprehend shit sometimes.

In the past.

This is what i'm talking about. You're being nasty for no other reason than i'm "not on your side". I'm not on anyone's side. I hope you can forgive whatever transgression you feel I made because i'm not going to hold this against you because I understand how tense things probably are over there at the moment.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: naff on May 30, 2020, 04:36:00 AM
you're in here with galaxy brain jabs equating the power fantasies and abuse of power of the police force employed by the state with regular citizens. you deserve to get some shit.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on May 30, 2020, 04:36:23 AM
https://twitter.com/foxwoundband/status/1266613385862447104 (https://twitter.com/foxwoundband/status/1266613385862447104)
 :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 30, 2020, 04:38:01 AM
Trashy go fashy :fbm
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on May 30, 2020, 04:42:50 AM
you're in here with galaxy brain jabs equating the power fantasies and abuse of power of the police force employed by the state with regular citizens. you deserve to get some shit.

Equate means "to consider (one thing) to be the same as or equivalent to another."

The same pyschological disinhibition causes both (the reactions of violence of the protestors as well as the police), but I didn't equate their severity or whether they were equally justified, and even if they were, police obviously should be held to a much greater standard.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: naff on May 30, 2020, 04:55:50 AM
you're in here with galaxy brain jabs equating the power fantasies and abuse of power of the police force employed by the state with regular citizens. you deserve to get some shit.

Equate means "to consider (one thing) to be the same as or equivalent to another."

The same pyschological disinhibition causes both (the reactions of violence of the protestors as well as the police), but I didn't equate their severity or whether they were equally justified, and even if they were, police obviously should be held to a much greater standard.

 :lol lay off the facile armchair psychology man
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on May 30, 2020, 05:03:55 AM
I'm being called a fascist, when I literally just said I hope the protestors attack the White House and that none of them get hurt doing so.

I'm being called a contrarian because I dared to say that part of the reason why these riots started was because of restlessness due to quarantine.

I guess I can't argue with being called a contrarian, it's true by virtue of the fact that you believe it.

:lol lay off the facile armchair psychology man

Use words correctly.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on May 30, 2020, 05:09:27 AM
Look up the definition of "restless" if you have the time.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 05:17:03 AM
Equating the two sides because they're a reaction to conditions ignores that one side actively seeks the conditions they claim to exist as a necessity. The protesters, including the rioters/looters who are simply opportunistic, are expressing discontent. You can leave it at that and discard them from the frame if you want to. The police are claiming conditions that are indefinite that require the powers and protections they have been granted, and likely need to be expanded, when it is simply not true. The former will dissipate with the conditions and even the current situation as people move on, the latter seeks to create conditions to justify itself systematically which requires continued action.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: naff on May 30, 2020, 05:17:45 AM
:lol lay off the facile armchair psychology man

Use words correctly.

This cocky agitation will only fan the flames of anger, but the police are blindly, with no self-awareness, using this as an open check experience to live out the power fantasy of their dreams

Fucking disgusting

Just like the protestors though.

"just like"

this inflammatory shit is just a dumb, offensive troll. there's no way you think you're coming in with the nuance you say you are. and if so, uh.  :neogaf
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on May 30, 2020, 05:30:32 AM
Equating the two sides because they're a reaction to conditions ignores that one side actively seeks the conditions they claim to exist as a necessity. The protesters, including the rioters/looters who are simply opportunistic, are expressing discontent. You can leave it at that and discard them from the frame if you want to. The police are claiming conditions that are indefinite that require the powers and protections they have been granted, and likely need to be expanded, when it is simply not true. The former will dissipate with the conditions and even the current situation as people move on, the latter seeks to create conditions to justify itself systematically which requires continued action.

I guarantee the cop shooting those reporters with rubber bullets/ pellets wasn't thinking that, the more prescient thought was "I'm completely anonymous so I can do this and I won't personally face repercussions".
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 30, 2020, 05:44:37 AM
Do the Bogans even have police brutality on the level of AmriKKKa though? :hmm
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 30, 2020, 05:46:33 AM
You bloody ripper!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 30, 2020, 05:58:47 AM
https://twitter.com/ben_brasch/status/1266588774173216769

#BASED

Destroy the government's property and police buildings, by all means. Just leave the bloody businesses (for the most part) intact.

I said the barnrushing with guns was a good thing because it actually put your face in the politicians and that same shit should be done here. If they actually reach Trumpy-kins in the White House (have they?) that's effective seizing.

Run the jewels is trash btw :wow

https://twitter.com/wsbtv/status/1266538044833832960

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbA5tcB9_Z8

:hmm You mean to tell me them licensing a song to EA to use while riding around as a pig in their NASCAR simulator didn't give a hint? :hmm

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Hardline is trash, btw. #WhensBattlefieldBadCompany3 #1943OnPCPlz
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Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on May 30, 2020, 06:01:15 AM
Do the Bogans even have police brutality on the level of AmriKKKa though? :hmm

FUME5 told me he got beat up by the police for doing nothing once, so shit does happen
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: naff on May 30, 2020, 06:01:35 AM
Do the Bogans even have police brutality on the level of AmriKKKa though? :hmm

ive heard a lot of shitty stories, and there's a lot of unseen treatment of the indigenous peoples because they're basically invisible with no voice as no-one cares and they're just relegated to outback communities with very little or no support ravaged by intergenerational trauma and addiction.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/beaten-abused-humiliated-and-filmed-by-victoria-police-20180321-p4z5f2.html
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 30, 2020, 06:07:32 AM
Do the Bogans even have police brutality on the level of AmriKKKa though? :hmm

ive heard a lot of shitty stories, and there's a lot of unseen treatment of the indigenous peoples because they're basically invisible with no voice as no-one cares and they're just relegated to outback communities with very little or no support ravaged by intergenerational trauma and addiction.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/beaten-abused-humiliated-and-filmed-by-victoria-police-20180321-p4z5f2.html

I know of the Aboriginals. I was more talking in general/non-Outback (for lack of better terms) Australia. The White British Criminal descendants Australia.

That's a good article, though (skimming, will have to re-read in a little bit). Shows the issue that Australia isn't the bastion of racial progress that I know it isn't from some ex-pats talking to me about it.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: naff on May 30, 2020, 06:23:08 AM
there isn't a problem wrt public lynchings or shootings these days. just yer standard beatings and public humiliations afaik
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 30, 2020, 06:28:12 AM
there isn't a problem wrt public lynchings or shootings these days. just yer standard beatings and public humiliations afaik

Than Trashy(©Filler) should understand why certain segments are America are tired of the (nearly, given you don't have lynchings or shootings) same shit.

Quote from: TFA
In 2016, the policeman in charge of investigating police, Assistant Commissioner Brett Guerin, promised to improve the existing system, with better tracking of problem officers and a focus on restorative justice. But the man responsible for overseeing police ethics had ethical problems of his own. In February, Guerin quit the force after revelations he was using an alias to post racist and repulsive comments on social media, including encouraging violence against Africans.

...The More Things Change Mini-America says it's better because "No GuNzZzZzZzZzZzZzZz...
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on May 30, 2020, 06:36:20 AM
Remember, no cnn

https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1266552367354392580 (https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1266552367354392580)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on May 30, 2020, 06:48:49 AM
Than Trashy(©Filler) should understand why certain segments are America are tired of the (nearly, given you don't have lynchings or shootings) same shit.

I have been maligned as being against the protesters when I am in supportive of the protest, and I hope they manage to take it all the way.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on May 30, 2020, 07:05:27 AM
What I'm still surprised about is that they still deny the dude was murdered.
I mean, it's on video and it seems pretty obvious he had trouble breathing and the police used excessive force to restrain him.
It wasn't an accident or anything like that.

How much more evidence could you possibly need?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 30, 2020, 07:29:17 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/gt86uf/rapper_killer_mike_pleads_with_atlanta/

The comments...

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/340/531/04c.gif)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 30, 2020, 08:31:46 AM
What I'm still surprised about is that they still deny the dude was murdered.
I mean, it's on video and it seems pretty obvious he had trouble breathing and the police used excessive force to restrain him.
It wasn't an accident or anything like that.

How much more evidence could you possibly need?

i think the close ranks and cover up mentality is so ingrained in the police etc that its their natural reaction and the only way they how they know to handle it
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 30, 2020, 09:02:20 AM
https://twitter.com/Jordan_Patu/status/1266580865674440705


(http://www.premfaces.com/images/site/faces/TGNz0rC.png)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: curly on May 30, 2020, 09:18:54 AM
They aren't here because we're all old farts but I'm being amused by some of the reactions seemingly all over where you can tell it's the persons first real "police" encounter videos and shit, they're all like "wow the police give no fucks about 'citizen journalists' yelling 'PRESS PRESS' as they pepper spray everyone in sight" or "wow, police really don't care about if protesters are gonna get hurt!" or "wow, the police really think they're above the law when dealing with 'civilians' they dislike!"

to me it feels like not all that long ago that that pepper spraying cop (from was it the first BLM protests?) was a meme being shopped into everything

That pepper-spraying cop was from Occupy old man most people you're talking about were probably in middle school when that happened
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 09:30:42 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izQLrDO_bBE&feature=youtu.be&t=8064
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 30, 2020, 10:03:35 AM
Wouldn‘t have thought that shosta is out there joining a child militia.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on May 30, 2020, 10:04:18 AM
:titus imagine the parents

"Please Mom! Don't make me mace you, just go home!!"
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Beezy on May 30, 2020, 10:29:25 AM
https://twitter.com/byjoelanderson/status/1266722854105542657
https://twitter.com/Freeyourmindkid/status/1266617848899780614
https://twitter.com/Freeyourmindkid/status/1266673244964356098
https://twitter.com/Freeyourmindkid/status/1266682620164943872
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 30, 2020, 10:47:44 AM
Yeah that's twitter/ree in a nutshell.

Violence-tourism.

Its always been my issue with the destruction. If it was people fucking up Chase bank's and Arby's (as long as they're far from residential buildings), have at it. Its when white people start fucking with local business in areas populated with minorities that it becomes an issue. Like that native community center.

But try to say anything about that on Twitter/Ree and you get piled on.

These are angry white men using a black cause to vent out their frustrations. Its gross.

Twitter and Reset? What they got to do with it? Shut the fuck up.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Beezy on May 30, 2020, 10:59:15 AM
https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/1266741059918475265
Sounds like more than tourism.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 30, 2020, 11:07:27 AM
Get those crackers out of Minnesota.

Reminds me of Ferguson.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 30, 2020, 11:08:51 AM
Bork can you please get a word filter in on the c word
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on May 30, 2020, 11:11:21 AM
all this concern trolling over buildings, it's lives that matter not pieces of property
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 30, 2020, 11:15:48 AM
all this concern trolling over buildings, it's lives that matter not pieces of property

It's not about property. It's about delegitimizing a cause in the pursuit of destruction you single celled troglodyte.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 30, 2020, 11:17:08 AM
And how do you plan on doing that?

How in the fuck are they able to cross state lines and stay in a state they're not even from in the middle of a pandemic? I don't know. Maybe consider shit like that, darling?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on May 30, 2020, 11:20:25 AM
all this concern trolling over buildings, it's lives that matter not pieces of property

It's not about property. It's about delegitimizing a cause in the pursuit of destruction you single celled troglodyte.

how does looting and destruction delegitimize the cause?  that's what conservatives have been trying to say for days and it's bullshit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 30, 2020, 11:21:08 AM
We honestly need something more like the black panthers rn with all this weird fud going on around this shit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on May 30, 2020, 11:22:52 AM
We honestly need something more like the black panthers rn with all this weird fud going on around this shit

https://twitter.com/Freeyourmindkid/status/1266626242905886721
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on May 30, 2020, 11:30:44 AM
literally said this on page 1

If we can make fun of stupid maga people protesting going back to barber salons surely we can make fun of these blacks too

everyone watching has noted how this event has been surprisingly multiracial for once, everyone shocked at how many white people are there standing beside their black neighbors

if anything if the damage is worse this time around, it correlates with more white people being present
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 11:37:03 AM
it's unorganized because the rulers want it to be unorganized. groups like the panthers were infiltrated and destroyed to make sure of that  :pacspit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 30, 2020, 11:40:19 AM
all this concern trolling over buildings, it's lives that matter not pieces of property

It's not about property. It's about delegitimizing a cause in the pursuit of destruction you single celled troglodyte.

how does looting and destruction delegitimize the cause?  that's what conservatives have been trying to say for days and it's bullshit

Huh? I'm saying they're sabouteurs whose aim is to make the protests less sympathetic. We saw it with Ferguson. They're anarchists.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 11:40:54 AM
https://twitter.com/BenjaminPDixon/status/1266749764139388930

 :kermit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 11:50:36 AM
Quote from: Glen
So I was driving to my friend's place in DTLA last night, and the demonstration for George Floyd turned onto the street I was on while I was stopped at a red light, and I sat there for like ten minutes like a rock in a stream as 1000+ people walked past chanting. They handed me some flyers too. I wanted to show solidarity, so I sat there fist pumping out my window and occasionally shouting “Justice!”

:dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 11:51:34 AM
Quote from: Glen
So I was driving to my friend's place in DTLA last night, and the demonstration for George Floyd turned onto the street I was on while I was stopped at a red light, and I sat there for like ten minutes like a rock in a stream as 1000+ people walked past chanting. They handed me some flyers too. I wanted to show solidarity, so I sat there fist pumping out my window and occasionally shouting “Justice!”

:dead
jack cuckington  :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 30, 2020, 11:53:31 AM
Too bad Glen didn't have his guitar with him.  :-\
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 30, 2020, 11:55:40 AM
 :era
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 11:57:58 AM
A white man has to do what he needs to do to survive
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 12:01:38 PM
He's like a fitter and taller Haley Joel Osmont
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 30, 2020, 12:02:40 PM
He's like a fitter and taller Haley Joel Osmont

That explains the down syndrome NeoLiberalism triablism, then.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 12:02:53 PM
all this concern trolling over buildings, it's lives that matter not pieces of property

It's not about property. It's about delegitimizing a cause in the pursuit of destruction you single celled troglodyte.

how does looting and destruction delegitimize the cause?  that's what conservatives have been trying to say for days and it's bullshit

Huh? I'm saying they're sabouteurs whose aim is to make the protests less sympathetic. We saw it with Ferguson. They're anarchists.

Why would anarchists want to make the protests less sympathetic?  Its one thing to say that's the result and other to say its the aim. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 12:04:15 PM
all this concern trolling over buildings, it's lives that matter not pieces of property

It's not about property. It's about delegitimizing a cause in the pursuit of destruction you single celled troglodyte.

how does looting and destruction delegitimize the cause?  that's what conservatives have been trying to say for days and it's bullshit

Huh? I'm saying they're sabouteurs whose aim is to make the protests less sympathetic. We saw it with Ferguson. They're anarchists.

Why would anarchists want to make the protests less sympathetic?  Its one thing to say that's the result and other to say its the aim.
not real anarchists, they're infiltrators
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on May 30, 2020, 12:13:09 PM
Where do I sign up for the white infiltrator job? Craigslist? A subdivision of Halliburton?
 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 12:14:00 PM
DSA
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Flannel Boy on May 30, 2020, 12:28:51 PM
Quote
There is a bunch of evidence that protests are sensitive to weather, and when rain happens it is much less likely people engage in protests. And so we should expect that when there is more rainfall there is less likelihood that people will engage in protest, and when there is less rainfall there is more likelihood. So we get a crude natural experiment—it’s as if some places were randomly assigned a violent protest and some were not.

And what I find is that, in the week following King’s assassination, when ninety-five per cent of those violent April protests occurred, if your county was proximate to violent protests, then that county voted six to eight percentage points more toward Nixon in November. But maybe there was something correlated with rainfall driving this result, and so to address the possibility of a confounding factor, like geography, I also looked at rainfall in periods where we should expect no effect of rainfall on voting—e.g., periods before and more than a few days after the assassination. This is called a placebo test. It is only rainfall in the one week after the assassination that predicts this conservative shift in November, and, in the absence of a plausible alternative story for why rainfall in April was predicting voting in November, the most obvious explanation is that the violent protests were the cause. And so we can then claim a causal relationship between violent protests and the shift away from the Democratic coalition.


https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/how-violent-protests-change-politics/amp
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 12:36:17 PM
https://apnews.com/1f15681c4597ec9f8073c9edfd41baef?utm_source=The+Marshall+Project+Newsletter&utm_campaign=6067627ad0-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_05_30_11_27&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_5e02cdad9d-6067627ad0-174463521

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Mississippi to drop charge of white ex-cop in man’s death

pretty poor timing.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 30, 2020, 12:39:43 PM
all this concern trolling over buildings, it's lives that matter not pieces of property

It's not about property. It's about delegitimizing a cause in the pursuit of destruction you single celled troglodyte.

Trying to deligitimize a movement due to a supposed infiltration of outside agitators is one of the oldest tricks in the book.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 30, 2020, 12:48:56 PM
Quote
There is a bunch of evidence that protests are sensitive to weather, and when rain happens it is much less likely people engage in protests. And so we should expect that when there is more rainfall there is less likelihood that people will engage in protest, and when there is less rainfall there is more likelihood. So we get a crude natural experiment—it’s as if some places were randomly assigned a violent protest and some were not.

And what I find is that, in the week following King’s assassination, when ninety-five per cent of those violent April protests occurred, if your county was proximate to violent protests, then that county voted six to eight percentage points more toward Nixon in November. But maybe there was something correlated with rainfall driving this result, and so to address the possibility of a confounding factor, like geography, I also looked at rainfall in periods where we should expect no effect of rainfall on voting—e.g., periods before and more than a few days after the assassination. This is called a placebo test. It is only rainfall in the one week after the assassination that predicts this conservative shift in November, and, in the absence of a plausible alternative story for why rainfall in April was predicting voting in November, the most obvious explanation is that the violent protests were the cause. And so we can then claim a causal relationship between violent protests and the shift away from the Democratic coalition.


https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/how-violent-protests-change-politics/amp

America doesn't have the same demographics and Trump is a particularly unique president.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 12:49:03 PM
That pepper-spraying cop was from Occupy old man
oh, okay, thanks

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Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 30, 2020, 12:51:47 PM
I see a lot of my white friends posting Obama's statement on this, and I feel like... his statement is so hollow. Did he do or try anything in the 8 years he was president to improve this? I dunno, I'm probably really wrong on this and I am totally willing to admit that.

A friend of mine who lives in DTLA posted tons of video from last night. The cop to protestor ratio was easily 4-1 and grew to 10-1 as the night got later. She had to hide behind stuff to avoid rubber bullets. It's fucked up knowing our mayor is trying to sneak through a budget that gives an even more ridiculous amount to the cops and that our DA has never prosecuted a killer cop, and there's been something like 600 of them.

I'm going out in a bit to participate in a protest today. I've never really done this sort of thing before but I don't feel good sitting at home doing nothing either.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 30, 2020, 12:53:54 PM
iirc obama's response to ferguson was to help get a bill passed that made attacking cops a hate crime
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 12:57:14 PM
all this concern trolling over buildings, it's lives that matter not pieces of property

It's not about property. It's about delegitimizing a cause in the pursuit of destruction you single celled troglodyte.

Trying to deligitimize a movement due to a supposed infiltration of outside agitators is one of the oldest tricks in the book.
it's the russians!  :gurl
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on May 30, 2020, 01:01:14 PM
Trying to deligitimize a movement due to a supposed infiltration of outside agitators is one of the oldest tricks in the book.

it depends on if you're saying "it's the russians" with no evidence, or if you have footage of a white person destroying a local business while dozens of black protesters yell at them to stop

or footage of an undercover cop getting out of a cop vehicle and swearing he's not a cop, he's with cnn, then you go back to the vehicle and the cops inside say they're not cops and also not cnn

like were these events faked, the governor paid a bunch of black people to beg an undercover agent to stop breaking shit while he filmed it
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 01:05:29 PM
https://twitter.com/ProudSocialist/status/1266776247125725184

 :shaq
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on May 30, 2020, 01:08:25 PM
It's the fault of a culture of racism and right-wing extremism within law enforcement and our system of government :nope

It's the fault of the radical left and looters trying to exploit the protests  :cac

It's the Russians :ohyeah

It's George Soros  :mods

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 01:12:23 PM
Glen sent me the posters they were handing out last night :dead :dead :dead

(https://i.imgur.com/57TqUPy.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/RWA1CPb.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/AM5L4lMha5yLAWSA24yKHyP-k6JLaczzVQW6OaGEVwOzQvT6B3iNvbFgTuyC7ONuowQK7uCbxKYB2YmZrxz4OB_zPWs6ixf6MFZ_spo_W5JfZLnKrkRv0sn3vFpuTkXimE8pZjGJotadK3Pgd7bGn0s5-B0ewHYNSBU)

Just goes to show that you can leave the Bore, but the Bore will never leave you
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 01:12:37 PM
It's the fault of a culture of racism and right-wing extremism within law enforcement and our system of government :nope

It's the fault of the radical left and looters trying to exploit the protests  :cac

It's the Russians :ohyeah

It's George Soros  :mods
infiltrators from middle earth  :rejoice

https://twitter.com/TarekCattan/status/1266778137544790018
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 01:14:25 PM
https://twitter.com/thejitterbug759/status/1266770886117527552

biden vp?  :leon
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 30, 2020, 01:28:17 PM
iirc obama's response to ferguson was to help get a bill passed that made attacking cops a hate crime

I see a lot of my white friends posting Obama's statement on this, and I feel like... his statement is so hollow. Did he do or try anything in the 8 years he was president to improve this? I dunno, I'm probably really wrong on this and I am totally willing to admit that.

Yeah he did;  the DOJ under Obama sued PDs all over the country forcing them to address complaints.

https://www.npr.org/2012/04/06/150128344/faith-in-seattle-police-shaken-by-doj-investigation

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Police departments have come under increased scrutiny from the Obama administration as the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division steps up investigations of corruption, bias and excessive force.

Some of the targeted law enforcement agencies have had ethical clouds hanging over them for years — the New Orleans Police Department being the prime example — but others, like the Seattle Police Department, aren't exactly usual suspects.

Seattle came to the Justice Department's attention a year and a half ago, after the shooting death of John T. Williams, a homeless man of Native Canadian descent. Chris Stearns, a lawyer on the city's Human Rights Commission, recalls that Williams was killed for walking across a street carrying a carving knife and a piece of wood.

They sued to force changes, firings, replacement of leadership, etc.   It was extensive enough a lot of the PDs tried to sue back, but it was all within the DOJ's pursue and all legal.

Interesting, thanks for this. I don't want to go popping off to people about it without knowing the facts and this is a high stress period so trying to correct people is just gonna lead to lots of yelling.

My AP government teacher used to tell me that the beauty of our country is that we have a non violent revolution every 4 years, and until I graduated college I kind of believed that. That things could change peacefully every few years. I started out as a professional in February of 08, and everything I've experienced since then has taught me not that the system is broken, but that it is fundamentally built wrong. As a software engineer it is easy for me to look at our political system as this giant, disgusting legacy code base that was built on bad information and terrible assumptions. People have been trying to refactor it or add on to it for years, but the core rot of certain parts can't be removed because high paying clients need that legacy compatibility. Projects like this can limp along for a long time, but eventually they either collapse under their own weight, or a competitor comes along with a more modern solution and replaces them. There's always the possibility that leadership decides it is time to undertake the onerous task of a re-write, but that is usually not my experience.

Anywho, shit is fucked up is what I'm trying to say.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 01:32:51 PM
Quote
Malcolm X:
"The property is the only thing that’s there. And they destroy it. And you get the impression over here that because they are destroying the property where they live, that they are destroying their own property. No. They can’t get to the man, so they get at what he owns. [Laughter] This doesn’t say it’s intelligent. But whoever heard of a sociological explosion that was done intelligently and politely? And this is what you’re trying to make the Black man do. You’re trying to drive him into a ghetto and make him the victim of every kind of unjust condition imaginable. Then when he explodes, you want him to explode politely! [Laughter] You want him to explode according to somebody’s ground rules. "
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 30, 2020, 01:36:34 PM
Yeah I know about it because SPD was one of the worst offendors and was hella shook by it all; constant whining in the press that it was unfair/etc. 

Fucking murdering pigs.

I remember watching the Seattle PD in action during the WTO protests when I was in HS. They were scum then and they're scum now. Sometimes I wonder if cops in liberal cities like Seattle, LA, SF, Portland are even scummier than other places just because they're overcompensating or something. I suppose it is more just that anyone who wants to be a cop is likely a piece of shit no matter where they live.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 30, 2020, 01:37:49 PM
iirc obama's response to ferguson was to help get a bill passed that made attacking cops a hate crime

That was Jon Bel Edwards in Louisiana.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 30, 2020, 01:39:29 PM
they're trying to dismantle the movement already, but we're less than 48 hours away from the start of another month and those pandemic checks have long since dried up. it's only gonna get hotter out here from this point on.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 30, 2020, 01:42:24 PM
iirc obama's response to ferguson was to help get a bill passed that made attacking cops a hate crime

That was Jon Bel Edwards in Louisiana.

looks like i was misremembering a "Blue Alert" bill

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/05/19/obama-blue-alert-law-bill-signing/27578911/
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The law requires the Justice Department to create a notification system relating to assaults on police officers, officers who are missing in the line of duty, and credible treats against law enforcement. The system is modeled after Amber Alerts for abducted children and Silver Alerts for missing seniors.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 30, 2020, 01:48:36 PM
Yeah I know about it because SPD was one of the worst offendors and was hella shook by it all; constant whining in the press that it was unfair/etc. 

Fucking murdering pigs.

I remember watching the Seattle PD in action during the WTO protests when I was in HS. They were scum then and they're scum now. Sometimes I wonder if cops in liberal cities like Seattle, LA, SF, Portland are even scummier than other places just because they're overcompensating or something. I suppose it is more just that anyone who wants to be a cop is likely a piece of shit no matter where they live.

"Liberal" American cities are typically still segregated as hell and have their own histories of police abuse and racial strife. Maybe a bit less so for cities like Portland which were traditionally super white, but LA in particular is pretty notorious for this.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 30, 2020, 01:51:27 PM
looks like i was misremembering a "Blue Alert" bill

There was a bill like the Louisiana one that got through the House with bipartisan support in 2018 but but the Senate never voted on it. Kinda surprised the GOP didn't go with it when they had the trifecta.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on May 30, 2020, 01:56:22 PM
sucks that the black leadership at some of these demonstrations isn’t considering the targeted destruction of property as a tactic, but that guy who got posted in that longer twitter thread is right: the demonstrations are still black spaces and they need to be entirely focused on accomplishing what the black people there want them to. and now sympathetic people are using the occasion, which should’ve been a solidarizing event, to prove what’s wrong with blm, or white anarchists, or whoever.

anyway, solid showing, but this is about the most solid of a showing you could possibly expect with virtually no organizational discipline and a weakly communicated statement of purpose. there needs to be some kind of push to integrate all this discontent, and they need to commit 100% to either nonviolence or war on the streets. also, there definitely are white nationalists out there trying to poison the well, i dont think we need to rachel maddow them into russian ops to admit this
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 30, 2020, 01:58:06 PM
sucks that the black leadership at some of these demonstrations isn’t considering the targeted destruction of property as a tactic

I'll be honest I think this is a cringe sentiment.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 01:59:18 PM
He said targeted!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on May 30, 2020, 02:03:27 PM
:dead

https://twitter.com/louisducdanjou/status/1266578058452054016
Restore the throne! Let's undo all the damage the rebels have done  :rejoice
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 02:03:38 PM
I haven't been watching fake news just real live streams, has any politician said anything substantial, and more than just we need change?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 30, 2020, 02:05:44 PM
He said targeted!

They already burned the Target.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on May 30, 2020, 02:07:40 PM
Get fucked, Louis :lol
It's not like the rebels have done such a great job over the past ~220 years.  :hmph
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on May 30, 2020, 02:15:48 PM
sucks that the black leadership at some of these demonstrations isn’t considering the targeted destruction of property as a tactic

I'll be honest I think this is a cringe sentiment.
i think it’s plausible that there are places where one fewer cop car would make it a better place :yeshrug

and for all the sneering at performative rioting or tourist terrorism, there is something to the galvanizing effect tearing down a statue or lighting a bank on fire might have in people who’ve felt powerless
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on May 30, 2020, 02:18:04 PM
:dead

https://twitter.com/louisducdanjou/status/1266578058452054016

Lire la chambre, couz.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 30, 2020, 02:22:54 PM
i think it’s plausible that there are places where one fewer cop car would make it a better place

jake they can buy more cars
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on May 30, 2020, 02:24:02 PM
 :larry

https://twitter.com/foreverasia_X0/status/1266591608545390594
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 02:26:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAgD8pvdQ7k
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on May 30, 2020, 02:29:45 PM
i think it’s plausible that there are places where one fewer cop car would make it a better place

jake they can buy more cars
and we can burn them, too! what are they gonna do, keep making the printers go brr? :heyman

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:anhuld
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Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 30, 2020, 02:31:21 PM
*burns cop cars*

*cop cars replaced in the middle of crippling austerity by further slashing municipal budget for social services*

surprisedpikachu.jpg
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on May 30, 2020, 02:34:09 PM
Soooo, head of Minneapolis Police Union is a White Nationalist.

https://twitter.com/Will_Bunch/status/1266790829412188160
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 02:35:03 PM
If anything this shows that police need two cars each in case one catches on fire. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 02:35:20 PM
i think it’s plausible that there are places where one fewer cop would make it a better place :yeshrug
fixed. maybe this will satisfy mandark
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 30, 2020, 02:36:54 PM
shosta flip-flopping on riots but staying consistent on backseat driving black activism
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 02:38:37 PM
shosta flip-flopping on riots but staying consistent on backseat driving black activism
all I ever complained about was the same thing Jake did, which is that they're not organized :yeshrug
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 30, 2020, 02:40:47 PM
you also said you felt an aversion to property damage

...which explains why you'd suggest interpersonal violence rather than damaging a car
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 02:41:18 PM
I see you and I run straight in the other direction. This is a bubble.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 02:42:18 PM
White people backseat drive activism like this
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DamagedEachAmethystinepython-size_restricted.gif)

while black people backseat drive activism like this
(https://i.imgur.com/PLrZ258.png)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 30, 2020, 02:45:14 PM
*burns cop cars*

*cop cars replaced in the middle of crippling austerity by further slashing municipal budget for social services*

surprisedpikachu.jpg

you say this like they don't slash social services and give the cash to cops even when crime is significantly down
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 30, 2020, 02:48:49 PM
yeah

point is that burning a cop car isn't actually getting rid of it or decreasing police resources in any meaningful way
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 30, 2020, 02:49:32 PM
true but it's inspirational nevertheless
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on May 30, 2020, 02:50:26 PM
yeah

point is that burning a cop car isn't actually getting rid of it or decreasing police resources in any meaningful way

And what would get rid of or decrease police resources in a meaningful way?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 30, 2020, 02:50:50 PM
And what would get rid of or decrease police resources in a meaningful way?

lolwut
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 02:54:13 PM
wait, is Jake black

because I've been wondering this for a while
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 30, 2020, 02:55:26 PM
The second one is, not the first one

spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tEaTrmlZUgw
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Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on May 30, 2020, 03:04:47 PM
wait, is Jake black

because I've been wondering this for a while
no

he's from Nola :lol
oh man, i wish

*burns cop cars*

*cop cars replaced in the middle of crippling austerity by further slashing municipal budget for social services*

surprisedpikachu.jpg
is this what the kids are calling ‘heightening the contradictions’? (https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/lupe1.png)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 03:20:51 PM
https://twitter.com/BenjaminPDixon/status/1266794517337907205

https://twitter.com/pbcgod_ignant/status/1266799932003868673

 :whew
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 03:32:47 PM
Yeah, me too
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 03:37:15 PM
https://twitter.com/neIIychillin/status/1266583265441349634

 :dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 03:48:43 PM
https://twitter.com/NewFly_G/status/1266750681479774208

 :gurl :era :gurl
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 04:08:31 PM
Protesting is an antfi tactic. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 04:11:03 PM
Summary: DOJ will start using federal laws to prosecute people who are from out of state and arrested during protests.

Can't wait for the entire counterterrorism apparatus to finally be directed against left wing organizations and protestors. Maybe they'll get to use those drones after all.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 30, 2020, 04:23:31 PM
I'm not sure I've seen such an organized, uniform narrative change in such short order since....Idk I guess 9/11 or some other big terrorist event where a "this is what happened and why" story got pushed by the government and all media followed it immediately. No evidence offered, no proof given, now all the news outlets are running with the protests have been hijacked by radicals and the only difference between Fox/CNN/MSNBC right now is to what degree each network plays up the "left wing" aspect of it.

I think multiple groups are looking for a way to deescalate and this narrative gives them a pretty convenient offramp.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: mormapope on May 30, 2020, 04:27:20 PM
I'm not sure I've seen such an organized, uniform narrative change in such short order since....Idk I guess 9/11 or some other big terrorist event where a "this is what happened and why" story got pushed by the government and all media followed it immediately. No evidence offered, no proof given, now all the news outlets are running with the protests have been hijacked by radicals and the only difference between Fox/CNN/MSNBC right now is to what degree each network plays up the "left wing" aspect of it.

I think multiple groups are looking for a way to deescalate and this narrative gives them a pretty convenient offramp.

I don't think that's going to work this time.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 04:33:05 PM
Why is the narrative "russia is sowing discord" again? :snoop

The fact the argument 'Russia is making us do it by posting mean stuff on Twitter' works on Americans actually makes me think that Russia might be making you guys do stuff by posting mean stuff on Twitter. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Trent Dole on May 30, 2020, 04:38:14 PM
Jake Tapper Tweeting this
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1266755788082761729
Retweeting that people were violating the First Amendment for yelling a Fox News correspondent out of a protest
https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1266747517913399297

This is what happens when you're beholden to establishment clintonites and an opportunistic horserace media source for steady progress, comfortable personalities begin scolding the tone at which bad actors are screamed at.
(https://i.imgur.com/tgrH0jY.gif)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 04:50:37 PM
Russia didn't tell the cops to shoot unarmed black men, and black people weren't mindless sheep who were just bumbling about until Russia "radicalized" them.
It's time for some Game Theory

1/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 30, 2020, 04:51:49 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/tgrH0jY.gif)


Can’t wait for the first thinkpieces on how Joker influenced the protests.

Cultural studies :trash
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 04:52:45 PM
The Civil Rights Movements of the 1940-1960's were also Russian Communist fronts.

Source: J. Edgar Hoover
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 30, 2020, 04:53:36 PM
Saying that White Supremacists and Russian agents conducted the worst of the riots is exactly like Conservatives pointing towards Floyd's underlying heart issues as the real cause of his death.

the one person you quoted who mentioned the russians is a judicial watch guy
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 04:55:36 PM
and a Lou Dobbs regular!

 :dobbs
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on May 30, 2020, 04:55:43 PM
Retweeting that people were violating the First Amendment for yelling a Fox News correspondent out of a protest
https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1266747517913399297

This is what happens when you're beholden to establishment clintonites and an opportunistic horserace media source for steady progress, comfortable personalities begin scolding the tone at which bad actors are screamed at.

fox cries and did CNN even complain about being shot by cops :neogaf

edit: oh nm I thought that was the official fox account being indignant  :dizzy
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 04:56:15 PM
O shit, there is going to be a Toronto protest, linked to a recent case that doesn't really sound like brutality.  I'm suddenly thinking that maybe these riots are not a good thing. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 04:58:56 PM
O shit, there is going to be a Toronto protest, linked to a recent case that doesn't really sound like brutality.  I'm suddenly thinking that maybe these riots are not a good thing.
:mandark
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on May 30, 2020, 05:01:40 PM
It reminds me of strikes that break out into riots. It’s almost always the strikers from outside the union that start the shit and not the union itself.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 05:01:44 PM
https://twitter.com/AbbyMartin/status/1266834722279182336

 :pimp
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 30, 2020, 05:03:19 PM
I have been saying for years that Sonic is a game for delinquents. You never see Mario or his even better-behaved brother Luigi during riots. :miyamoto
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 05:06:32 PM
10,000 sonic fans infiltrating the movement is terrifying  :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 30, 2020, 05:08:45 PM
Mario and Luigi are small business owners just trying to get by in Brookyln.  :-\
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 05:10:03 PM
Mario and Luigi fight to prop up a failed ethnic-based monarchy
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 30, 2020, 05:12:02 PM
I mean, yeah, he's clearly flipping it around, but I was more highlighting the fact that my feed in particular has been filled with comments warning people to beware of foreign actors.
sounds like you should stop hate-following people on twitter
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 30, 2020, 05:12:41 PM
At least we can all agree that Wario is the embodiment of capitalist greed.

I wouldn‘t be surprised that Waluigi acid washes his hard drives everytime a cop shows up in his neighborhood btw. :jared
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Beezy on May 30, 2020, 05:14:39 PM
O shit, there is going to be a Toronto protest, linked to a recent case that doesn't really sound like brutality.  I'm suddenly thinking that maybe these riots are not a good thing.
The girl who they said police pushed off a balcony? I still haven't seen a story on that, just a few tweets.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 30, 2020, 05:18:57 PM
Mario and Luigi fight to prop up a failed ethnic-based monarchy

We only know about Princess Peach, yet we don‘t know about a king or queen, not to speak of their legislative or executive power.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 05:22:30 PM
Depends on what you consider canon.

Then there's Super Mario Bros. 3 which has multiple kings.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 05:24:21 PM
mushroom kingdom has a chancellor  ;)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 05:26:39 PM
Compared to Hyrule though, the Mushroom Kingdom is a first world nation.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 05:28:51 PM
https://twitter.com/redfishstream/status/1266840475996217344

 :putin
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 05:29:16 PM
Then there's Super Mario Bros. 3 which has multiple kings.
Aren't all of those kings subordinate to the Mushroom Kingdom proper? It's a tributary system I think
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on May 30, 2020, 05:30:18 PM
https://twitter.com/redfishstream/status/1266840475996217344

 :putin

It’s okay. They’ll just buy new ones.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: toku on May 30, 2020, 05:32:02 PM
Hyrule is definitely an old scandanavian monarchy twiddling thumbs in fear of the brown people from the desert taking over and applying sharia law.

all hyrulians know how to do is break vases, kill ganon and piss off birds
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 05:33:25 PM
the chickens are supposed to peacefully protest  ::)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 05:33:32 PM
Hylians :ufup
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 05:33:51 PM
O shit, there is going to be a Toronto protest, linked to a recent case that doesn't really sound like brutality.  I'm suddenly thinking that maybe these riots are not a good thing.
The girl who they said police pushed off a balcony? I still haven't seen a story on that, just a few tweets.

Ya.  https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/regis-korchinski-paquet-toronto-police-1.5590296

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on May 30, 2020, 05:35:46 PM
Ackshually they’re called cuccos  :expert
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 05:46:14 PM
Mario and Luigi are outside agitators.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 05:54:42 PM
Italians are too lazy to be agitators.  The only reason they do all that hoping around is for that sweet Peach.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on May 30, 2020, 05:55:07 PM
https://twitter.com/MsPackyetti/status/1266788013213966336
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 30, 2020, 05:57:16 PM
hold the fuck on - you're telling me that the shadow the hedgehog game that everyone trashed mercilessly actually has you blowing up the white house?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 30, 2020, 06:00:58 PM
]https://youtu.be/reHCNzk5rEs

Yoshi is not a Marxist. He sacrifices his life from the moment he is born to business owner Mario and follows him around even after getting dropped in a pit over and over again. He is obviously a Social Democrat. :rodney
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 06:13:32 PM
People need to light more buildings on fire so y'all can go back to being normal in this thread.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 06:26:18 PM
ON IT:
https://twitter.com/JRubinBlogger/status/1266751525906526209
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 06:30:20 PM
we should wordfilter twitter.com/jrubinblogger
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 06:30:23 PM
https://twitter.com/Hooah90032912/status/1266799009424977920

 :ohyeah
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 30, 2020, 06:31:22 PM
bork please save us from benji's awful retweets
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 06:31:25 PM
we should wordfilter twitter.com/jrubinblogger
Not surprised to see you trying to silence Democratic Party voices of color.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 06:32:13 PM
bork please save us from benji's awful retweets
I SEE YOU ALL SIDE WITH THE FORUM COP AGAINST THE ANARCHIST

I SEE HOW IT IS

GATTICA! GATTICA! GATTICA!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 06:33:13 PM
I propose we wordfilter it to "What do we say to benji? 'Not today.'"
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 06:41:10 PM
https://twitter.com/vikthewild/status/1266538354939756544
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on May 30, 2020, 06:53:25 PM
https://twitter.com/ClaireMcInerny/status/1266820830660624387 (https://twitter.com/ClaireMcInerny/status/1266820830660624387)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 30, 2020, 07:20:11 PM
Yeah I know about it because SPD was one of the worst offendors and was hella shook by it all; constant whining in the press that it was unfair/etc. 

Fucking murdering pigs.

I remember watching the Seattle PD in action during the WTO protests when I was in HS. They were scum then and they're scum now. Sometimes I wonder if cops in liberal cities like Seattle, LA, SF, Portland are even scummier than other places just because they're overcompensating or something. I suppose it is more just that anyone who wants to be a cop is likely a piece of shit no matter where they live.

40% of cops beat their wives (https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/09/police-officers-who-hit-their-wives-or-girlfriends/380329/)</meme> and all that.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: toku on May 30, 2020, 07:20:18 PM
Hylians :ufup

hyck lover

https://twitter.com/jinpaynus/status/1266614628055830528
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 07:28:19 PM
https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1266871991690129408
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on May 30, 2020, 07:33:47 PM
https://twitter.com/ByzeRadio/status/1266647544538398722
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on May 30, 2020, 07:40:44 PM
https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1266871991690129408
I'm pretty sure he called you all terrorists sweet summer child.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: samir on May 30, 2020, 07:44:39 PM
Fuck Antifa!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 07:57:11 PM
https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1266877890060156929

roit?  :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 30, 2020, 07:59:54 PM
we should wordfilter twitter.com/jrubinblogger

(https://i.imgur.com/oKiRCke.gif)

Bork, please. :stahp For the sake of my mental health, please nuke Jennifer from orbit. :stahp
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: curly on May 30, 2020, 08:00:46 PM
https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/1266879497355309057

:surprisedpikachu
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 30, 2020, 08:07:52 PM


https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1266877890060156929

 :letsfukk
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: kingv on May 30, 2020, 08:11:15 PM
we should wordfilter twitter.com/jrubinblogger

(https://i.imgur.com/oKiRCke.gif)

Bork, please. :stahp For the sake of my mental health, please nuke Jennifer from orbit. :stahp

Jennifer Rubin trying time be the voice of Democratic Party is one of these funniest damn things of the Trump era.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 08:11:42 PM
https://twitter.com/nataliealund/status/1266877181164089349

winning hearts and minds
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 30, 2020, 08:13:49 PM
https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/1266879497355309057

:surprisedpikachu

Almost a whole day after corporate media already ran wild with the story of outside agitators.
Worked as planned :kermit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 30, 2020, 08:20:47 PM
all these cop cars burning :rejoice
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: toku on May 30, 2020, 08:35:08 PM
https://i.imgur.com/lve8OAy.mp4
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on May 30, 2020, 08:38:51 PM
https://twitter.com/Winter/status/1266846905834717185


Oops, you forgot to shut up
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 08:39:55 PM
would have been better if it was the first part of a tweet thread
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 08:48:22 PM
who do I follow on twitter for the crazy shit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 30, 2020, 08:49:51 PM
Mr. Gilhaney
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on May 30, 2020, 08:50:15 PM
who do I follow on twitter for the crazy shit

https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1266893524965810176 (https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1266893524965810176)

 :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 30, 2020, 08:52:45 PM
Mr. Gilhaney

i keep it real.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 30, 2020, 08:53:03 PM
I'm home. I think I got lucky multiple times and avoided the violence by mere minutes. I was out there for 6 hours and the worst thing I saw was graffiti and I count myself lucky that that is it. It is going to get very, very ugly out there tonight.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 08:54:33 PM
I don't think screaming "justice!" is going to work tonight :stahp
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 08:55:28 PM
https://twitter.com/BenjaminPDixon/status/1266888310573748230


 :kermit


https://twitter.com/MutualAid4a/status/1266884258787885057

 :gun :cop
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on May 30, 2020, 08:57:55 PM
https://twitter.com/pgarapon/status/1266885414016688134 (https://twitter.com/pgarapon/status/1266885414016688134)

It's a big mess.

In a few minutes curfews will go in effect.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on May 30, 2020, 09:03:43 PM
who do I follow on twitter for the crazy shit

https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1266893524965810176 (https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1266893524965810176)

 :lol

Holy shit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 09:04:50 PM
I don't think screaming "justice!" is going to work tonight :stahp
"JUSTICE NOW!"
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 30, 2020, 09:05:22 PM
When I left, it felt like some DSA types were starting to rile the crowd up more.

At one point earlier one we were on Beverly Blvd heading East towards the Grove when people stopped. After a few minutes it got announced we were turning around and heading towards Beverly Hills. I found out about a half hour later from a friend that they were detaining people at the Grove and riot cops were shooting people with rubber bullets.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on May 30, 2020, 09:06:09 PM
who do I follow on twitter for the crazy shit

https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1266893524965810176 (https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1266893524965810176)

 :lol

Holy shit

next: 80 year old white woman with trebuchet in the back of a pickup
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 09:07:28 PM
I found Don Rumata :dead :dead :dead

https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1266883339283132416
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on May 30, 2020, 09:10:10 PM
Hopefully COVID-19 was indeed mostly gone by now. Otherwise this has been a super spreader event as well  :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 09:11:45 PM
"ZACK SNYDER'S JUSTICE NOW!"
fixed
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 30, 2020, 09:14:18 PM
This will all get resolved when the protesters and cops realize their moms are both named Martha.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on May 30, 2020, 09:19:43 PM
i need an update on the bow and arrow situation
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 09:21:07 PM
i need an update on the bow and arrow situation
arrested and his car set on fire
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on May 30, 2020, 09:21:25 PM
i need an update on the bow and arrow situation
arrested and his car set on fire

Did he actually hurt someone with the arrow?  It look like he released.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 09:23:16 PM
https://twitter.com/Gingersonfire/status/1266886517600870401
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on May 30, 2020, 09:23:58 PM
Ah, that could have gone a lot worse.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 09:25:03 PM
they should have killed him  :drool
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 30, 2020, 09:26:46 PM
They Mayor of LA just announced they're ending free Corona testing because he's mad about the protests. Also it sounds like cops are covering their badges and turning off body cams, shit is gonna get real bad tonight.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on May 30, 2020, 09:28:08 PM
https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1266895393847197696

Hearts...
minds..
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on May 30, 2020, 09:28:42 PM
https://twitter.com/th3j35t3r/status/1266891699349053441
https://twitter.com/JATayler/status/1266897246244741120
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 09:29:03 PM
https://twitter.com/nataliealund/status/1266877181164089349

what kind of fucking human being do you have to be to do this shit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 09:32:59 PM
https://twitter.com/Lukewearechange/status/1266903778814578688
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on May 30, 2020, 09:35:33 PM
https://twitter.com/NaveedAJamali/status/1266877895735042049


Genius is bringing his machine gun
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on May 30, 2020, 09:37:00 PM
https://twitter.com/micheal_SLC/status/1266899283749400576
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 09:37:16 PM
Genius is bringing his machine gun
he took it out of the police car before they burned it, there's another angle somewhere that shows it
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 30, 2020, 09:38:20 PM
https://twitter.com/NaveedAJamali/status/1266877895735042049


Genius is bringing his machine gun

Last page i posted a longer video of this. Looks like he just pulled it out of the cop car, and was ready to get some sweet Instagram photos done
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on May 30, 2020, 09:38:36 PM
Genius is bringing his machine gun
he took it out of the police car before they burned it, there's another angle somewhere that shows it

Quit getting all the deep scoops before me!!! 

(https://imgur.com/RGJ483N.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on May 30, 2020, 09:40:43 PM
Chicago police scanner


https://crimeisdown.com/audio?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 30, 2020, 09:42:49 PM
https://twitter.com/hayesdavenport/status/1266904388397789184
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 09:44:28 PM
Just watched Ali Velshi get hit with tear gas for no reason.
He's Ali Velshi.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 09:45:28 PM
Maybe they're just extremely short adults? :fbm
This ended up being true :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 30, 2020, 09:47:13 PM
Should that short adults even be allowed outside alone under normal circumstances?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on May 30, 2020, 09:47:27 PM
Yeah CNN is lit right now
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 09:50:44 PM
https://twitter.com/MsDBZbabe/status/1266904275785056262
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 30, 2020, 09:51:06 PM
https://twitter.com/cathydebourgh/status/1266905037063614465
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on May 30, 2020, 09:53:03 PM
"I was marching with them, trying to convince them all lives matter."

 :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 30, 2020, 09:55:48 PM
I'm dying at that interview
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 30, 2020, 10:00:08 PM
https://twitter.com/Gingersonfire/status/1266886517600870401

(https://i.imgur.com/cITXqjw.gif)

"I was marching with them, trying to convince them all lives matter."

 :lol

:dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 30, 2020, 10:03:09 PM
https://twitter.com/GodfreyPlata/status/1266872172040949760

This is the stuff I saw. I'm not surprised that it has gone violent and that that will be the narrative, but there it didn't start that way.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 10:12:20 PM
https://twitter.com/BarbMcQuade/status/1266895403083083777
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 30, 2020, 10:12:36 PM
I remember it was just a few years ago that this stuff was mostly contained to live streams and now it's just on TV like it's a normal thing to see endless lines of riot squads marching down American cities shooting at reporters live on air

back in ferguson they'd wait until after the 10pm news was over and the media had left before they started getting real wild. nowadays yeah they don't give a fuck. i'll be genuinely surprised if we make it through this weekend without cops using live rounds on people.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 10:15:07 PM
https://twitter.com/TheIndypendent/status/1266871388624781312
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 30, 2020, 10:15:38 PM
They've already shot so many people without provocation with rubber bullets, so yeah it isn't going to get better.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 30, 2020, 10:16:36 PM
I dunno why, but the amount of folks with phones out is giving me some serious "White Bear" vibes. I get why (to document the brutality) but the folks sitting there while the cops just throw the water bottles in that tweet is making me :dead with ... not laughter but the irony.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 10:16:54 PM
https://twitter.com/champagnesocia8/status/1266914676870447104

bork trying to mod irl  :lol


https://twitter.com/CheechAintShit/status/1266911508979519488

where ya at, stost? :gurl
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 30, 2020, 10:19:10 PM
I dunno why, but the amount of folks with phones out is giving me some serious "White Bear" vibes. I get why (to document the brutality) but the folks sitting there while the cops just throw the water bottles in that tweet is making me :dead with ... not laughter but the irony.

what are they supposed to do though? charging a group of cops is a guaranteed (at LEAST one) ass beating, imprisonment, and serious charges. no one is trying to risk that for some water. all you can do is document the hatred.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 10:20:12 PM
MSNBC not having a good night:
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1266915854144307204
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 10:20:18 PM
where ya at, stost? :gurl
making soup :)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 10:23:58 PM
what kind
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 10:27:32 PM
what kind
(https://i.imgur.com/YyFRglP.jpg)

It's like a kimchi flavor soup I guess
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 10:31:05 PM
I'd love to protest (not riot) but I have a suspended six month sentence and contact with police violates my probation. 80 people got arrested here last night

Also I'm lazy
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 30, 2020, 10:34:15 PM
https://twitter.com/nataliealund/status/1266877181164089349

what kind of fucking human being do you have to be to do this shit

Remember how activists would put out water in the desert so border-crossers wouldn't die? And they would knock over the water containers and prosecuted a guy for leaving them out?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 10:36:12 PM
Remember how activists would put out water in the desert so border-crossers wouldn't die? And they would knock over the water containers and prosecuted a guy for leaving them out?
They dropped his case in court, thank god :preach
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 10:36:16 PM
last time people protested here the governor punished everyone by assigning more homework
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 30, 2020, 10:43:11 PM
How weird that all these reporters in all these different cities have the same story that there were peaceful protests all day and as soon as it started getting dark, cops rolled in and escalated everything

Speaking first hand this is what I saw. It was peaceful until cops showed up and started detaining people and or just out right shooting them.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 10:45:41 PM
Some of you guys are starting to post some very negative things about our frontline first responders who are just trying to get people to stay home, stay safe.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Coffee Dog on May 30, 2020, 10:46:14 PM
All the bow and arrow carfire fun got SLC slapped with a curfew until monday.  :lol turnout for this is way bigger than I expected.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 10:47:03 PM
https://twitter.com/wyattreed13/status/1266918898173173760


https://twitter.com/CallForCongress/status/1266921917107171331
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 10:47:34 PM
Bow guy without a doubt is my favorite part of tonight's events. Dude's brain has been so completely hollowed out by MAGA propaganda that he gets out of his car to aim a fucking weapon at people. I just know we're going to find out more about him in the coming days, I feel it in my bones
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 30, 2020, 10:50:40 PM
Did Bow Guy even hit the person he was targeting? The video had him fire at close-range, but given the view angle, it's hard to tell if he hit the person before the others ran in. I saw them collapse/duck(?) but not sure if it was an actual hit.

Take like two minutes to set-up, do a spiel, possibly miss (?) your target and then get the shit beaten out you, Katniss.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 10:51:01 PM
Bow guy without a doubt is my favorite part of tonight's events. Dude's brain has been so completely hollowed out by MAGA propaganda that he gets out of his car to aim a fucking weapon at people. I just know we're going to find out more about him in the coming days, I feel it in my bones
drive to mormon and bash his head in  :hump
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 30, 2020, 10:51:30 PM
Spencer Hall called him "Cadburyeggolas" on Twitter.

:dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 10:52:32 PM
Police who cover up their badges need to be shot.  There could not be a clearer sign that those are the bad apples in the bunch.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Coffee Dog on May 30, 2020, 10:52:39 PM
Did Bow Guy even hit the person he was targeting? The video had him fire at close-range, but given the view angle, it's hard to tell if he hit the person before the others ran in. I saw them collapse/duck(?) but not sure if it was an actual hit.

Take like two minutes to set-up, do a spiel, possibly miss (?) your target and then get the shit beaten out you, Katniss.

Nah, he hit a car door or something. You can see the arrow just going out of frame.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 30, 2020, 10:53:27 PM
Some of you guys are starting to post some very negative things about our frontline first responders who are just trying to get people to stay home, stay safe.

tonight's goal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S287rXs4Vi8
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on May 30, 2020, 10:53:29 PM
Bow guy without a doubt is my favorite part of tonight's events. Dude's brain has been so completely hollowed out by MAGA propaganda that he gets out of his car to aim a fucking weapon at people. I just know we're going to find out more about him in the coming days, I feel it in my bones
theres another video of him brandishing a knife in the middle of the street too. guy probably needs help :-\
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 10:55:24 PM
Listening to Shosta Sr. (grew up in Baltimore public housing) cheer every time he sees anything on fire while my landlord mom laments about how damaged property is wrong :lawd

And Mandark wonders why my psyche is fractured ::)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 30, 2020, 10:55:26 PM
what kind
(https://i.imgur.com/YyFRglP.jpg)

It's like a kimchi flavor soup I guess

This is a good ramen tbh

Actually, gonna make one, too :rejoice
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 10:56:27 PM
Yeah I got the brand from you when you blew up my Facebook notifications talking about good ramen brands with Lauren :lol

btw I'm 75% done with Sandman
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 10:57:53 PM
https://twitter.com/mcfw/status/1266923599279120384

:dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 30, 2020, 10:58:53 PM
you put a slice of yellow cheese on that ramen and you end up with something so much better than you'd think possible
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 30, 2020, 10:59:30 PM
Yeah I got the brand from you when you blew up my Facebook notifications talking about good ramen brands with Lauren :lol

btw I'm 75% done with Sandman

And then you deleted a whole comment thread like an absolute boomer because you couldn’t figure out how to disable notifications for a post. :era
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 30, 2020, 11:00:14 PM
Apropos of the NYPD driving through that crowd of people and some other similar videos, remember there were several bills introduced in state legislatures that would have protected people who ran over protesters.

IIRC Heather Heyer getting killed pretty much put the kibosh on them.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 30, 2020, 11:00:19 PM
That sounds weird as fuck but I have some good sharp cheddar, dare me?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 30, 2020, 11:00:51 PM
eat ramen to own the pigs
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 11:01:39 PM
Apparently, at the Toronto protest, the event organizers required everyone have face masks

(https://i.redd.it/1rt4wwfsuy151.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 30, 2020, 11:02:32 PM
This is all just very fucking terrifying.  What is next for us?  Further police militarization?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 11:02:41 PM
you put a slice of yellow cheese on that ramen and you end up with something so much better than you'd think possible
This is mac and cheese. You have invented mac and cheese.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 30, 2020, 11:03:26 PM
you put a slice of yellow cheese on that ramen and you end up with something so much better than you'd think possible
This is mac and cheese. You have invented mac and cheese.
is this a problem?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 11:04:05 PM
https://twitter.com/jabo2lit/status/1266925494752153603
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 30, 2020, 11:04:12 PM
https://twitter.com/mcfw/status/1266923599279120384

:dead

Pride of Bagdad page.meme
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 30, 2020, 11:04:30 PM
That sounds weird as fuck but I have some good sharp cheddar, dare me?

do it, it's honestly good and not weird at all. just gives the noodles a better texture, almost like if they were greasy pan-fried noodles.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/ramen-cheese-taste-test-korean-dish-comfort-food-2020-4
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2020, 11:05:15 PM
https://twitter.com/DailyMirror/status/1266906491438592000

 :-[
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 11:05:53 PM
https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1266916809569185799
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 11:09:02 PM
https://twitter.com/makloubae/status/1266898124477534210
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Beezy on May 30, 2020, 11:10:08 PM
Bore, its time.

https://twitter.com/doitlikedua/status/1266927613387382784
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 30, 2020, 11:10:47 PM
This is all just very fucking terrifying.  What is next for us?  Further police militarization?

There's really not much farther they can take it besides literally rolling through in tanks.

I'm gonna get so many likes quoting this in August when there are tanks rolling through southeast DC. :lawd
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 11:11:21 PM
There's really not much farther they can take it besides literally rolling through in tanks.
The only reason they don't use their military hand me down vehicles more is the maintenance costs are unaffordable. Which is why we need to pass emergency legislation to ensure our local police departments are fully funded and have access to the latest crime-fighting technology as used by our forces around the world. :american
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 30, 2020, 11:11:33 PM
This is all just very fucking terrifying.  What is next for us?  Further police militarization?

There's really not much farther they can take it besides literally rolling through in tanks.

Ferguson did that, with the mini-tanks.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 30, 2020, 11:12:45 PM
This is all just very fucking terrifying.  What is next for us?  Further police militarization?

I don't know. I know it is what a lot of mayor's like Garcetti want, but who knows. The people in LA started things off today by setting some clear goals:

Vote out our current DA as she has yet to prosecute a single cop responsible for the over 600 murders perpetrated by police during her regime.

Don't allow Garcetti to pass his new budget that would increase police funding.

Both of these are things that can be accomplished without drastic measures. I don't think anyone expects them to be the entire solution, but you gotta start somewhere tangible.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 30, 2020, 11:17:56 PM
https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1266845479268212736
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 11:22:53 PM
Apparently the lion thing is false and I am severely disappointed 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on May 30, 2020, 11:23:54 PM
Apparently the lion thing is false and I am severely disappointed

The night is still young
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 11:25:14 PM
what about the cheesecake?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 30, 2020, 11:26:33 PM
unclear
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Beezy on May 30, 2020, 11:27:10 PM
https://twitter.com/imactuallynina/status/1266912627193774080
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 30, 2020, 11:30:54 PM
https://twitter.com/mayorofla/status/1266934742936514561
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Coffee Dog on May 30, 2020, 11:31:29 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/tkerssen/status/1266921821653385225

Fucking animals
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 30, 2020, 11:35:24 PM
https://twitter.com/JackPMoore/status/1266913716584411139
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on May 30, 2020, 11:38:35 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/tkerssen/status/1266921821653385225

Fucking animals

Remember when we all scowled at all those videos of Chinese police fucking with people on their own property.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 30, 2020, 11:41:23 PM
https://twitter.com/inteldotwav/status/1266925835623301120
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 11:46:27 PM
https://twitter.com/jpressler/status/1266935000026484738
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on May 30, 2020, 11:49:04 PM
I'm pissed we haven't yet seen a furry out rioting in full fursuit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: curly on May 30, 2020, 11:50:12 PM
https://twitter.com/jpressler/status/1266935000026484738

Those cops would merk him if they got the chance. What a cuck
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Akala on May 30, 2020, 11:51:58 PM
SHITS FUKT FAM
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 30, 2020, 11:52:29 PM
Warning: Blood and bruises. No gore.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/gtpvib/this_is_linda_tirado_she_is_the_journalist_who/

Damn, she got beamed completely. I feel bad for her.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 30, 2020, 11:52:34 PM
https://twitter.com/MelissaAGarriga/status/1266932366175592448
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Akala on May 30, 2020, 11:52:37 PM
I'm pissed we haven't yet seen a furry out rioting in full fursuit

sanic doesn't count?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 11:54:40 PM
https://twitter.com/AntWuzHere/status/1266904350183620608

why is this so fucking hard.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2020, 11:57:57 PM
probably a death, jesus  :nsfw

https://mobile.twitter.com/keithmillermor1/status/1266910375200473095
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 30, 2020, 11:58:58 PM
I'm pissed we haven't yet seen a furry out rioting in full fursuit

I did see a sign that said "I could be home watching HxH but I'm here for the homies."

So the weebs were out.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on May 31, 2020, 12:02:53 AM
probably a death, jesus  :nsfw

https://mobile.twitter.com/keithmillermor1/status/1266910375200473095

Oh my fucking god
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 12:03:58 AM
At least a couple thousand people out in LV tonight, damn. I guess I am missing out.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EightBitNate on May 31, 2020, 12:08:08 AM
Mfs in Chicago stole a whole damn horse

https://twitter.com/realkatscorner/status/1266922288290594816
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 12:09:46 AM
https://twitter.com/Sifill_LDF/status/1266928343141752833
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 31, 2020, 12:17:28 AM
probably a death, jesus  :nsfw

https://mobile.twitter.com/keithmillermor1/status/1266910375200473095

Getting dragged a quarter mile, yeah... that doesn't look good.

Related (well not to that location but people running other people over):

https://twitter.com/simpLeeTre_/status/1266800268215226375
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Beezy on May 31, 2020, 12:18:31 AM
I heard about the FedEx truck last night I think, but I didn't watch the vid. Yes, he died.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 31, 2020, 12:25:57 AM
Looking at the Twitter replies:

Content Warning  :nsfw: LA Riots of 1992 Video in Tweet
https://mobile.twitter.com/Big_SteveO/status/1266934989662195712
[close]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Reginald_Denny

On one hand: I don't fault the Truck Driver for trying to avoid possible harm.
On the other: He did drag someone.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 12:30:52 AM
https://twitter.com/gunduzbaba1905/status/1266937500607614982
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 31, 2020, 12:33:40 AM
some dipfuck attacked the crowd with a sword and i think they killed him
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on May 31, 2020, 12:35:04 AM
https://twitter.com/riotupdatez/status/1266947804154511363
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 31, 2020, 12:35:43 AM
Honestly it’s a statistical miracle that gun violence has been restricted to shots heard at various locations, you’d think that someone, somewhere would have done something.

a lot of times there are people that get shot at these things but you don't end up hearing about it till later when the media has moved on. with bullets flying you don't usually know what happened till someone is down, and then they're quickly rushed away to a hospital
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 31, 2020, 12:37:55 AM
https://twitter.com/Selena_Adera/status/1266707305158017029

https://twitter.com/safrazie/status/1266883138136895489
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 31, 2020, 12:39:50 AM
if you want a useless peaceful protest then stay the fuck home and work on a dance off flash mob or something
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 31, 2020, 12:44:17 AM
https://twitter.com/MichaelAdams317/status/1266945268567678976
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Beezy on May 31, 2020, 12:45:15 AM
some dipfuck attacked the crowd with a sword and i think they killed him
He's alive. He was knocked out.

https://twitter.com/BriMalandro/status/1266947129387421696
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 12:46:13 AM
some dipfuck attacked the crowd with a sword and i think they killed him

He's alive
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 12:52:43 AM
https://twitter.com/DailyMail/status/1266945518548156418
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 12:55:43 AM
https://twitter.com/johncusack/status/1266938983575101441
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 12:57:42 AM
After watching that video of a guy chasing a teenager around while swinging a sword I can safely say that qualifies as a meltdown
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 12:58:14 AM
https://twitter.com/lalaitskelcey2/status/1266821476122058752
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 31, 2020, 01:01:05 AM
https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1266947696004390917

Oh boy
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on May 31, 2020, 01:04:42 AM
After watching that video of a guy chasing a teenager around while swinging a sword I can safely say that qualifies as a meltdown

at this point I have to look very carefully at any posts talking about macing people
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 31, 2020, 01:05:39 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/NId6w8x.png)

 :usacry
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 01:08:19 AM
https://twitter.com/ResourcefulMom/status/1266943580087685128

So sad :trumps
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 01:13:56 AM
Mandark: "c'mon, they're the richest bank in America, they can just afford a new building"
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 31, 2020, 01:14:50 AM
is the Chamber of Commerce on fire? the Business Roundtable? the Left-Wing Liberal Media? Paul Ryan? Wall Street?

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:dobbs
[close]
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: mormapope on May 31, 2020, 01:15:08 AM
Went to protest in downtown Madison. Got to yell at police, felt great to say "fuck the police" to their faces on the frontline, felt great being in a unified crowd. Tear gas fired, swat team van pulled up, got the fuck out when police in full gear were moving up.

Tons of unity, anger, cohesion. Shit was dope tbh
  :whew
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on May 31, 2020, 01:15:42 AM
I will say, at a time like this they're essentially daring Trump to make a move.

One of the less cringe/cynical adoptions of a social cause by a corporation, though obviously this is done with the knowledge that a majority of their userbase will support/commend them.
yeah. it initially struck me as culture war posturing, but honestly, it feels like we just moved beyond that this week
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 31, 2020, 01:16:57 AM
https://twitter.com/retiresuprkicks/status/1266734843532115969?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on May 31, 2020, 01:18:03 AM
Mandark: "c'mon, they're the richest bank in America, they can just afford a new building"
remember brehs, the coward mandark literally thinks that the Daughters of Confederacy building should still be standing :shh
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 31, 2020, 01:18:21 AM
https://twitter.com/loggedtheFUCKon/status/1266912004146630656

#BASED
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 01:24:28 AM
Feds raised the asset cap! They're literally printing money right now, they don't need a tax cut :rage
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 31, 2020, 01:28:04 AM
https://twitter.com/williamlegate/status/1266938876632981507

:hmm
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on May 31, 2020, 01:29:21 AM
https://twitter.com/williamlegate/status/1266938876632981507

:hmm

https://twitter.com/LAVENDERTHUG/status/1266900030029549569
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on May 31, 2020, 01:32:34 AM
www.twitter.com/RyanFaircloth/status/1266961134751449089

how the fuck are these maga cops this dumb and undisciplined?? america’s produced dystopian fiction about the fear of this shit for like 50 years now. how are they this stupid?

edit: people in the comments skeptical that it was live ammunition, think my overall point still stands
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 31, 2020, 01:32:46 AM
now burning down buildings to promote stimulus is fine but attacking websites is simply too far, I'm afraid I now have to side with the police
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 01:36:28 AM
Rubber bullets could blow a window out too, he doesn't know that they're live.

how the fuck are these maga cops this dumb and undisciplined??
We just had several years of thin blue line and MAGA, also check out that vid bluemax posted. Literally every cop is on the street tonight in most cities and these guys didn't get their act together all of a sudden just because there are protests so yeah, some dumb shit was bound to happen
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 31, 2020, 01:37:15 AM
I assume with all the police they've managed to catch a good number of the outside agitators and prepared deportation procedures.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 01:38:27 AM
Back to Russia?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 31, 2020, 01:38:49 AM
https://twitter.com/SASBurnerAcct/status/1266945070160379904
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on May 31, 2020, 01:42:10 AM
https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1266967573079392256
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 01:43:53 AM
I bet he didn't even fill it with gasoline and thought you could literally just light vodka on fire
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 31, 2020, 01:47:07 AM
 :snob
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on May 31, 2020, 02:04:10 AM
I'd love to protest (not riot) but I have a suspended six month sentence and contact with police violates my probation. 80 people got arrested here last night

Also I'm lazy

:mandark
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 31, 2020, 02:09:05 AM
:umad
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 31, 2020, 02:14:19 AM
As much as the Chapo's (well, Felix mostly) dunk on him:

https://twitter.com/carterforva/status/1266911127692247040

https://twitter.com/carterforva/status/1266926871335272458

https://twitter.com/amayalindsey/status/1266927060389449729
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 31, 2020, 02:15:00 AM
https://twitter.com/williamlegate/status/1266938876632981507

:hmm

https://twitter.com/LAVENDERTHUG/status/1266900030029549569

https://twitter.com/thugcrowd/status/1266963589887406081

:rejoice
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 31, 2020, 02:17:44 AM
Doubt anyone here (besides Morma who has confirmed went to one) needs this, but just in case:

OPSEC during protests to protect yourself.

https://twitter.com/dualcoremusic/status/1266913543921627136
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 31, 2020, 02:21:07 AM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyhrYis509A
[close]

https://twitter.com/BlairImani/status/1266974448701317120

Ok, off to bed.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 31, 2020, 02:27:31 AM
Seen a couple instances of police defusing situations with symbolic gestures towards the protesters: a lieutenant in Baltimore (with a British accent?) reading off the names of victims from one of the signs, and the police chief in Flint joining and walking with the protesters.

Those are probably going to be seized on by people who want the lesson of the riots to be a generic "let's all get along with each other" story. But seeing police get positive results through a bit of basic human empathy really puts the lie to the thin blue line stuff.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 31, 2020, 02:27:47 AM
"Remember, Sully, when I promised to kill you last? I lied."

 :doge

OPSEC part duex:

https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/1266977224319733761

https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/1266977759613591553

https://twitter.com/violetblue/status/1266690326250414081

Speaking of V.B.: I have her book due to Humble Bundle. If anyone wants to flip through it (which is mostly focused on women protecting themselves online), I'm willing to give a copy to "borrow"/lend. I remember telling EightBitNate about it and offering it, but he didn't take my offer. If anyone wants to read it: PM me.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25644910-the-smart-girl-s-guide-to-privacy
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on May 31, 2020, 03:21:27 AM
Honestly it’s a statistical miracle that gun violence has been restricted to shots heard at various locations, you’d think that someone, somewhere would have done something.

a lot of times there are people that get shot at these things but you don't end up hearing about it till later when the media has moved on. with bullets flying you don't usually know what happened till someone is down, and then they're quickly rushed away to a hospital

But it's still surprising there hasn't been any mass shootings. You'd think a far-right or far-left extremist would have killed some protestors/cops by now.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Atramental on May 31, 2020, 03:56:29 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gtsaam/please_make_this_go_viral_i_am_begging_you_police/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: naff on May 31, 2020, 05:11:13 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4VMkzhO6fU
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: naff on May 31, 2020, 05:22:53 AM
watching that i thought of kara as ralph fiennes makes his way around the streets of a riot ravaged LA, unable to leave the past, escaping into captured dreams 'til he drinks enough to pass out every night.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: who is ted danson? on May 31, 2020, 06:39:45 AM
https://twitter.com/HugeNintendoDS/status/1266951231777509381

 :noooo
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 31, 2020, 06:44:55 AM
https://twitter.com/HudMo/status/1266926534041853954
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on May 31, 2020, 06:46:20 AM
What an absolute mess
https://twitter.com/tkerssen/status/1266921821653385225 (https://twitter.com/tkerssen/status/1266921821653385225)

Not sure how this changes anything for the better, with all the burned cop cars I guess they'll pull up in bullet proof Tesla trucks next
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on May 31, 2020, 07:17:44 AM
I don't know how America recovers from last night. The whole world saw the police being the agitators in 30+ major cities across the country, taking peaceful protests into violent riots, pepper spraying and assaulting people with their hands up or walking away from them, directly attacking the press repeatedly, running people over with cars and horses, live on TV for hours. The story is the same everywhere and documented on television: Peaceful protests all day until about 8 or 9PM local time cops exploded and started attacking people everywhere. National Guard deployed in 13 cities, on top of the already militarized police force.

This is a generational trauma being inflicted, who the fuck can ever trust the police/government again?

You’re telling me you don’t trust this government public servant?

https://twitter.com/_tayyybeautiful/status/1266388589635649542

:drool
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 31, 2020, 07:22:36 AM
I don't know how America recovers from last night. The whole world saw the police being the agitators in 30+ major cities across the country, taking peaceful protests into violent riots, pepper spraying and assaulting people with their hands up or walking away from them, directly attacking the press repeatedly, running people over with cars and horses, live on TV for hours. The story is the same everywhere and documented on television: Peaceful protests all day until about 8 or 9PM local time cops exploded and started attacking people everywhere. National Guard deployed in 13 cities, on top of the already militarized police force.

This is a generational trauma being inflicted, who the fuck can ever trust the police/government again?

lol media people'll wake up and start talking about how the protesters are instigators and agitators while looping the same few minutes of footage showing windows being smashed in and everyone will get mad at them instead of the cops, the same as what they do after every single other protest
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 31, 2020, 07:23:17 AM
well, aside from the right-wing and nazi protests. the cops are always so peaceful at those for some reason
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on May 31, 2020, 07:32:10 AM
well, aside from the right-wing and nazi protests. the cops are always so peaceful at those for some reason

Probably because they don't smash and burn random buildings and torch cop cars, just saying.

They know that if they did, the police would deliver violent reprisals (and be hailed heroes for it).
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 31, 2020, 07:39:17 AM
yeah i'm sure that's the reason. thanks for another brilliant contribution to the thread.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: naff on May 31, 2020, 07:40:38 AM
I don't know how America recovers from last night. The whole world saw the police being the agitators in 30+ major cities across the country, taking peaceful protests into violent riots, pepper spraying and assaulting people with their hands up or walking away from them, directly attacking the press repeatedly, running people over with cars and horses, live on TV for hours. The story is the same everywhere and documented on television: Peaceful protests all day until about 8 or 9PM local time cops exploded and started attacking people everywhere. National Guard deployed in 13 cities, on top of the already militarized police force.

This is a generational trauma being inflicted, who the fuck can ever trust the police/government again?

You’re telling me you don’t trust this government public servant?

https://twitter.com/_tayyybeautiful/status/1266388589635649542

:drool

look like 213372bu to me  :cop
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on May 31, 2020, 08:01:43 AM
yeah i'm sure that's the reason. thanks for another brilliant contribution to the thread.

You really think the reason is because cops love Nazis and right-wingers, rather than the fact that right-wingers rarely give them an excuse to whip their ass (because the right-wingers are pro-cop)? How is that a controversial belief in any way?

Glad transhuman is proving me right. Physically incapable of not saying something stupid and contrarian as if it's enlightening.

"But I said I am FOR the protests" we know, we know. Just kindly shut the fuck up.

Just because i'm not posting "ACAB" "Fire all police" like some braindead resetera user? Jesus.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 31, 2020, 08:09:05 AM
lads bois m8s, meltdown may is almost over.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 31, 2020, 08:14:31 AM
nazis are well-known for their calm demeanor and extreme aversion to violence. i can't remember any right-wing protest where they got violent or murdered people in recent years. not a one. and i certainly don't remember any police departments being exposed for feeding info to hate groups or otherwise helping them out, not at all. thank you again for another brilliant post transhuman.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on May 31, 2020, 08:17:01 AM
Justified or not, ultimately the cost of continuing these riots will be:

- More law enforcement in those communities
- Tax increases / austerity to replace all the damaged vehicles and government buildings
- Ruined small business owners who watched their stores go up in flames
- Dwindling public support

I get the general sentiment is: "FUCK ALL THOSE PEOPLE BURN IT ALL DOWN THEY ARE COMPLICIT".
But with public opinion still being on the side of the protesters now is the time to turn this into a political movement and make clear what the demands are.
Night after night of rioting and looting with the National Guard cracking down is not going to lead to the best outcome.

Now is the time to use this momentum for a powerful message.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 31, 2020, 08:18:35 AM
I was always of the burn it all down, to build something better mindset.

But then I saw what happened when we burned down neogaf.

Now I am alt right.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 08:26:15 AM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/30/politics/george-floyd-brother-talks-trump/index.html
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on May 31, 2020, 08:27:22 AM
Oh no, I sound like a resetera poster? I said fire all police? I must be truly braindead. Unlike the idiot who keeps posting about shit he clearly doesn't understand with authority.

I didn't say you were! Jesus. Can you two just lay off the personal attacks? You two seem to think i'm pro-cop because i'm not vocally anti-cop, which isn't the case at all, and the only reason i'm responding to you is because that idea is so offensive to me.

nazis are well-known for their calm demeanor and extreme aversion to violence. i can't remember any right-wing protest where they got violent or murdered people in recent years

That's not what i'm talking about, i'm saying right-wingers generally don't throw bricks at cops, because they're far more interested in directing shit at the counter protestors, so cops don't escalate that much with them.

You two have built some crazy inaccurate portrait of me in your minds, and i'm sick of it. I know it sucks to be at home when you'd rather be out protesting, but direct your pent up anger elsewhere.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on May 31, 2020, 08:36:01 AM
It's okay I know you're worked up right now.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 31, 2020, 08:40:11 AM
yeah i'm sure that's the reason. thanks for another brilliant contribution to the thread.

You really think the reason is because cops love Nazis and right-wingers,

...I mean, are you really gonna ignore this (https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justice/2020/05/minneapolis-police-union-president-kroll-george-floyd-racism/), Trashy? :hmm

IN BEFORE TRASHY'S STAND-UP RESPONSE OF
>"Allegedly"
[close]

Anyway, just to go along with this:

(https://i.imgur.com/MRK1H3f.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on May 31, 2020, 09:07:38 AM
yeah i'm sure that's the reason. thanks for another brilliant contribution to the thread.

You really think the reason is because cops love Nazis and right-wingers,

...I mean, are you really gonna ignore this (https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justice/2020/05/minneapolis-police-union-president-kroll-george-floyd-racism/), Trashy? :hmm

Yeah tons of cops are trash people (way more than average population) but it's not like they are twiddling their thumbs as right wingers tear shit up. There's no "fascist riot" equivalent to what's happening now, and why would there be. Things would only get worse for them politically. Whereas with BLM, this rioting has already made things better. I can't see a second Trump term anymore unless he appeases some demands that he's never going to appease, and I can't see the result of this being no reform.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on May 31, 2020, 09:14:26 AM
https://twitter.com/Mufaa6/status/1266939792358551554 (https://twitter.com/Mufaa6/status/1266939792358551554)

man's speaking the truth  :'(
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Beezy on May 31, 2020, 09:22:18 AM
https://twitter.com/NYPDShea/status/1267074838436425729
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Coffee Dog on May 31, 2020, 09:28:17 AM
yeah i'm sure that's the reason. thanks for another brilliant contribution to the thread.

You really think the reason is because cops love Nazis and right-wingers,

...I mean, are you really gonna ignore this (https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justice/2020/05/minneapolis-police-union-president-kroll-george-floyd-racism/), Trashy? :hmm

Yeah tons of cops are trash people (way more than average population) but it's not like they are twiddling their thumbs as right wingers tear shit up. There's no "fascist riot" equivalent to what's happening now, and why would there be. Things would only get worse for them politically. Whereas with BLM, this rioting has already made things better. I can't see a second Trump term anymore unless he appeases some demands that he's never going to appease, and I can't see the result of this being no reform.

Why would the fascists riot when the police get out of their way? They stormed state buildings with rifles a few weeks ago and the police didn't do shit because the fascists look like their friends. Protests become riots after they escalate, and the police don't escalate unless you're a demographic they want to fuck with.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 09:30:20 AM
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=946616149108952&id=445714612532444

Alright got the montages going :whew
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 31, 2020, 09:33:37 AM
yeah i'm sure that's the reason. thanks for another brilliant contribution to the thread.

You really think the reason is because cops love Nazis and right-wingers,

...I mean, are you really gonna ignore this (https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justice/2020/05/minneapolis-police-union-president-kroll-george-floyd-racism/), Trashy? :hmm

Yeah tons of cops are trash people (way more than average population) but it's not like they are twiddling their thumbs as right wingers tear shit up. There's no "fascist riot" equivalent to what's happening now, and why would there be. Things would only get worse for them politically. Whereas with BLM, this rioting has already made things better. I can't see a second Trump term anymore unless he appeases some demands that he's never going to appease, and I can't see the result of this being no reform.

I get what you're going for, but:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/eDG0tt_PRXsa0l-MhzftkzO5EHetvj7v19LU04JH2BMtDSu_GewqhXmrUUNL6uVn94HT0Fw)

If you can't see the difference between the two beyond "hurp a derp, white supremacists 'protested peacefully' so the cops didn't do shit about their protest despite running down a woman back in the day but lol let's ignore that", I dunno what to tell you.

----

ANYWAY, for those of you that want to do #XisOverParty's:

https://twitter.com/evelynvwoodsen/status/1266859927257133056
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 09:36:01 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OohKtPH0Bs4
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 09:38:25 AM
I don't know how America recovers from last night. [...] This is a generational trauma being inflicted, who the fuck can ever trust the police/government again?
Not to poopoo this too much but the anti-Brexit demonstrations in London were absolutely the biggest mass gatherings I had ever seen in that country... and the rest of the nation went and kicked Labour out of Parliament in what was one of their worst elections ever.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 31, 2020, 09:50:54 AM
everyone call him fashy now instead of trashy

:success
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on May 31, 2020, 10:06:14 AM
Why would the fascists riot when the police get out of their way? They stormed state buildings with rifles a few weeks ago and the police didn't do shit because the fascists look like their friends. Protests become riots after they escalate, and the police don't escalate unless you're a demographic they want to fuck with.

BLM has stormed plenty of building to peaceful response in the past, but there's no way the police reaction to nationwide destructive riots is going to be the same as it is for a bunch of stupid loons storming the Michigan state building who think they're gonna get the lockdown ended.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on May 31, 2020, 10:12:47 AM
I don't know how America recovers from last night. [...] This is a generational trauma being inflicted, who the fuck can ever trust the police/government again?
Not to poopoo this too much but the anti-Brexit demonstrations in London were absolutely the biggest mass gatherings I had ever seen in that country... and the rest of the nation went and kicked Labour out of Parliament in what was one of their worst elections ever.

I get your point, but Labour weren't running as an anti-Brexit party and that wasn't in their manifesto because the Trade Union bloc of Labour were (and are) Pro-Brexit.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: toku on May 31, 2020, 10:26:14 AM
https://twitter.com/yslasia1/status/1267072457367851013
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 31, 2020, 10:40:02 AM
yeah i'm sure that's the reason. thanks for another brilliant contribution to the thread.

You really think the reason is because cops love Nazis and right-wingers,

...I mean, are you really gonna ignore this (https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justice/2020/05/minneapolis-police-union-president-kroll-george-floyd-racism/), Trashy? :hmm

Yeah tons of cops are trash people (way more than average population) but it's not like they are twiddling their thumbs as right wingers tear shit up. There's no "fascist riot" equivalent to what's happening now, and why would there be. Things would only get worse for them politically. Whereas with BLM, this rioting has already made things better. I can't see a second Trump term anymore unless he appeases some demands that he's never going to appease, and I can't see the result of this being no reform.
Google Malheur take over

Or just shut up.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 10:46:04 AM
https://boston.cbslocal.com/2020/05/30/arrested-conflict-with-black-lives-matter-protesters-manchester-nh/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on May 31, 2020, 10:46:42 AM
yeah i'm sure that's the reason. thanks for another brilliant contribution to the thread.

You really think the reason is because cops love Nazis and right-wingers,

...I mean, are you really gonna ignore this (https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justice/2020/05/minneapolis-police-union-president-kroll-george-floyd-racism/), Trashy? :hmm

Yeah tons of cops are trash people (way more than average population) but it's not like they are twiddling their thumbs as right wingers tear shit up. There's no "fascist riot" equivalent to what's happening now, and why would there be. Things would only get worse for them politically. Whereas with BLM, this rioting has already made things better. I can't see a second Trump term anymore unless he appeases some demands that he's never going to appease, and I can't see the result of this being no reform.
Google Malheur take over

Or just shut up.

Just did. Where's the riot?

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2020/05/30/arrested-conflict-with-black-lives-matter-protesters-manchester-nh/

The dad's head is too long and his kid's head is too wide

:nsfw

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Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 31, 2020, 10:53:17 AM
The point stands white nationalist dipshits are not treated the same. If you don’t get it still, shut up. That story is literally the cops doing nothing for almost month while right wingers tore shit up. Go away
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 31, 2020, 10:55:34 AM
https://twitter.com/Mufaa6/status/1266939792358551554
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on May 31, 2020, 10:56:21 AM
The point stands white nationalist dipshits are not treated the same. If you don’t get it still, shut up. That story is literally the cops doing nothing for almost month while right wingers tore shit up. Go away

How do you not get that you're not posting remotely analogous situations.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 31, 2020, 10:58:21 AM
https://twitter.com/Mufaa6/status/1266939792358551554
Jesus Christ that was powerful
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on May 31, 2020, 10:59:04 AM
Transhuman, it's time to stop.  Just stop.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 10:59:25 AM
How do you not get that you're not posting remotely analogous situations.
You don't live here and you clearly don't understand the impunity with which the right wing operates in this country. Just quit posting.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on May 31, 2020, 11:00:07 AM
Already posted bork but the more we share it the better  :heart
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 11:01:11 AM
Nintex went from justifying Zwarte Piet to sharing videos of black solidarity. The bullying... finally worked :tocry
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 31, 2020, 11:01:54 AM
Nintex shared that?! :mindblown
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 31, 2020, 11:03:00 AM
Nintex went from justifying Zwarte Piet to sharing videos of black solidarity. The bullying... finally worked :tocry

First Randy Orton and now Nintex

:rejoice :rejoice :rejoice
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 31, 2020, 11:03:50 AM
Leper transhuman so we never have to read his shit again
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 11:05:23 AM
Leper transhuman so we never have to read his shit again
burn this motherfucker down until transhuman is charged with shitposting! no justice, no peace!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 31, 2020, 11:12:50 AM
Yeah sorry, when the order to shoot is coming from the commander in chief, no good cop ratio is gonna save us
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 31, 2020, 11:17:23 AM
I don't think I ever truly realised how much the US police system attracts a truly special breed of cunt until this week tbh.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 31, 2020, 11:31:26 AM
Until the american police force stops attracting all these psychos, arming them to the teeth and protecting them when they go too far and kill someone nothings gonna change :tocry

Idk how anyone who is not police can still be out there dick riding 'our boys in blue' rn.

Black people saying 'don't kill us over fuck all pls' shouldn't be some impossible request
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 31, 2020, 11:35:12 AM
https://twitter.com/Oskaer__13/status/1267116450575052800
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 31, 2020, 11:42:04 AM
https://twitter.com/miranda_parnell/status/1266818924466900992
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on May 31, 2020, 11:42:50 AM
For the argument of local cops, a few of these scenes have luckily appeared
https://twitter.com/midmichigannow/status/1266907736735956996 (https://twitter.com/midmichigannow/status/1266907736735956996)

Mostly sheriffs and local cops walking along with the protesters and helping to keep it peaceful. Which is how it should be and the police should behave in this situation.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 11:43:28 AM
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/americas/2020/05/31/us-law-enforcement-are-deliberately-targeting-journalists-during-george-floyd-protests/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 31, 2020, 11:49:21 AM
How stupid are these cops? It’s 2020, everyone can be a journalist. You won’t remove them all from the area by being pig shits
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 11:54:45 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Stephaniejing2/status/1267070108612136961
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 12:02:50 PM
https://twitter.com/tragicbios/status/1267118103223316483
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 31, 2020, 12:03:52 PM
https://twitter.com/selhemsworth/status/1266906416977186816

https://twitter.com/Toddmasterson/status/1266966176032161792

https://twitter.com/TheDediKated/status/1266915823551160320


(https://i.imgur.com/0IPSPiz.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 12:09:07 PM
PERIODT
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on May 31, 2020, 12:10:02 PM
I don't think I ever truly realised how much the US police system attracts a truly special breed of cunt until this week tbh.

Well they're either cunts when they join or they become cunts after years of serving. Some credit where its due, cops see a lot of fucked up things most people never have to see. So most cops that go in with the best intentions, between spending all of their time around shithead cops and seeing heinous shit, its inevitable they become the same way. Its indoctrination. The whole system is sick. When it stopped being about protecting the community and about protecting the interests of specific people at the cost of, I won't even say POC, but the lower class, that's when it took a turn.

If you want change, assign cops to small portions of small communities. So they know everyone's name and everyone know's there's. Make them spend their week or whatever shift sleeping in that community. Be part of it. Partake in it. Protect it.

It'd be a lot harder to strangle George that you helped with his garden two weeks earlier for using a counterfeit bill.

Mind you, he apparently already knew George, so what do I know?
When wasn't police about protecting the upper class from the lower class?
I have no idea what the solution for the US could even be (and maybe this type of violent protest is the only real option at this point), but the problem, when you allow psychopaths to live out their power trips, in a position of authority, and set them off against a group you've more or less officially marked as "expendable", is plain to see.
The rest is done by peer pressure and tribalism, where even cops who might have been somewhat decent, are either pressured or brainwashed into following the pack.

All police forces tend to attract right-wing leaning, almost inherently, but the US is the more extreme and grotesque example of it, as far as developed democracies are concerned, anyway.

I'm skeptical about your idea of reducing back communities to their smaller subsets, when we're living in a world approaching complete disintegration of the job market because of globalized giants like Amazon (i'm not saying they did this, but i'm talking about the global trend).
It just seems antithetical.

Or maybe this is just a modern incarnation of an empire's collapse, after it stretches itself too thin. :thinking
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 31, 2020, 12:15:11 PM
MSM running with blue checkmark's take yesterday
https://twitter.com/mustachetoilet/status/1266749712138252290

:putin
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 31, 2020, 12:18:10 PM
Oh so the cop was Russian?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 31, 2020, 12:18:43 PM
Oh so the cop was Russian?

Putin himself in disguise :stahp
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 31, 2020, 12:19:25 PM
 :kermit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 31, 2020, 12:19:34 PM
https://twitter.com/Alladin_Al/status/1266920159576502272
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on May 31, 2020, 12:23:53 PM
I don't think I ever truly realised how much the US police system attracts a truly special breed of cunt until this week tbh.

Well they're either cunts when they join or they become cunts after years of serving. Some credit where its due, cops see a lot of fucked up things most people never have to see. So most cops that go in with the best intentions, between spending all of their time around shithead cops and seeing heinous shit, its inevitable they become the same way. Its indoctrination. The whole system is sick. When it stopped being about protecting the community and about protecting the interests of specific people at the cost of, I won't even say POC, but the lower class, that's when it took a turn.

If you want change, assign cops to small portions of small communities. So they know everyone's name and everyone know's there's. Make them spend their week or whatever shift sleeping in that community. Be part of it. Partake in it. Protect it.

It'd be a lot harder to strangle George that you helped with his garden two weeks earlier for using a counterfeit bill.

Mind you, he apparently already knew George, so what do I know?
When wasn't police about protecting the upper class from the lower class?
I have no idea what the solution for the US could even be (and maybe this type of violent protest is the only real option at this point), but the problem, when you allow psychopaths to live out their power trips, in a position of authority, and set them off against a group you've more or less officially marked as "expendable", is plain to see.
The rest is done by peer pressure and tribalism, where even cops who might have been somewhat decent, are either pressured or brainwashed into following the pack.

All police forces tend to attract right-wing leaning, almost inherently, but the US is the more extreme and grotesque example of it, as far as developed democracies are concerned, anyway.

I'm skeptical about your idea of reducing back communities to their smaller subsets, when we're living in a world approaching complete disintegration of the job market because of globalized giants like Amazon (i'm not saying they did this, but i'm talking about the global trend).
It just seems antithetical.

Or maybe this is just a modern incarnation of an empire's collapse, after it stretches itself too thin. :thinking

I'm not for reducing communities to smaller subsets, just the policing of them. The US needs to get rid of the Us VS Them mentality of policing and change it to an Us with Them mentality. You do this by reducing the force, not by increasing it in size and the militarization of it.
Yeah sorry, maybe i didn't explain it well, i'm saying i can see the value in your point, but it seems to me like every other institution in the US (and globally, but particularly in the US) is and wants to go the opposite way, creating a further chasm between people and positions of power.
So unfortunately i don't see that happening.
But perhaps you're right, and the demilitarization is a realistic goal, especially after these past few days/week, i have to imagine even more moderate/removed parts of the US population are starting to turn around on the issue.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 12:34:03 PM
https://twitter.com/chadloder/status/1266994073501487104
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 31, 2020, 12:37:01 PM
https://twitter.com/chadloder/status/1266994073501487104

How this went from a hoax to people freaking about it to people actually using it how it was described in the hoax, is one of the best arguments for social constructivism someone could come up with.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on May 31, 2020, 12:43:52 PM
https://twitter.com/krystalscake/status/1267090209012736002


Apparently the guy got pelted with rocks before he flipped out with the sword.   
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 12:47:08 PM
The guy is walking around with a FUCKIN SWORD
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 12:48:37 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/chadloder/status/1267029301389492224
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sorry blood in first picture, was trying to link to second video
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on May 31, 2020, 12:51:22 PM
The guy is walking around with a FUCKIN SWORD

Yeah, he made the mistake of thinking he could protect his business with it...dumb idea.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on May 31, 2020, 12:51:46 PM
dallas sword guy is a tradcath monarchist

www.twitter.com/HarrierMagnus?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on May 31, 2020, 12:53:55 PM
dallas sword guy is a tradcath monarchist

www.twitter.com/HarrierMagnus?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Oh neat, he has a thread explaining his rationale.  I'm gonna get some coffee for this, brb.   :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on May 31, 2020, 12:54:11 PM
https://twitter.com/krystalscake/status/1267090209012736002


Apparently the guy got pelted with rocks before he flipped out with the sword.
Don't want to judge either way, since it's not clear what happened (and mob mentality is what it is) but why the fuck was he going around with a machete at the hip? People in the comments are saying he was "defending his business", but i'm not sure what he was expecting to do about it, alone with a knife.
You expecting to stop a bunch of people alone? Are you Jet Li or something?

EDIT: Yeah, i see, he was a nutto.  :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 12:54:44 PM
I FUCKIN KNEW IT!! As soon as I saw a goddamn broadsword I was like no way this guy isn't on that identity evropa marble statue bullshit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 12:54:49 PM
https://twitter.com/HarrierMagnus/status/1266803667090518021

gets stabbed a few hours later.  This is how twitter should work.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 31, 2020, 12:56:14 PM
dallas sword guy is a tradcath monarchist

www.twitter.com/HarrierMagnus?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Quote
The year is 20XX , all culture has been reduced down to a cocktail of mental viruses. Cinematic universes have declared war on our own. Dimwitted superheros and super soldiers invade our minds looking to conquer our hearts. The flag they mean to plant inside of us belongs to no nation, but to long-lived media brands that churn to the top of the scum bath that is the conglomerated intellectual property clearing houses we entrust our aesthetic education with.

That all this is ‘accidental’ is too much to swallow. No, this is all deliberate, all planned. There are forces at work that frighten. What is there to be done? This site is a front in a battle, a battle between powerful critico-psychics over what will constitute beauty tomorrow. Do you work for them? Our content is open, but only the true Children of Diotima will find themselves in possession of the key that unlocks the arsenal collected here. Pay close attention. Dissolve the critical insights here shared within your cosmic gut, let taste build up in your blood stream like antibodies. Enhance your capabilities. Join the struggle.

The Autistic Mercury is part review site, part ARG, part training program for the Content Fedaykin who will rescue the human soul from the clutches of the intellectual and aesthetic imperium who command the ideological bugmen that swarm our cities.

:crazy
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 12:56:40 PM
https://twitter.com/HarrierMagnus/status/1266623399234863105

:dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on May 31, 2020, 12:57:03 PM
I FUCKIN KNEW IT!! As soon as I saw a goddamn broadsword I was like no way this guy isn't on that identity evropa marble statue bullshit
He didn't watch enough ScholaGladiatoria to know he needed at least a full plate?  :stahp
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on May 31, 2020, 12:57:06 PM
https://twitter.com/krystalscake/status/1267090209012736002


Apparently the guy got pelted with rocks before he flipped out with the sword.
Don't want to judge either way, since it's not clear what happened (and mob mentality is what it is) but why the fuck was he going around with a machete at the hip? People in the comments are saying he was "defending his business", but i'm not sure what he was expecting to do about it, alone with a knife.

Obviously this is all speculation but..

He probably thought he could intimidate the looters away.  There are quite a few people standing in front of their businesses with machine guns solely as a picture of deterrence - they'd be wrong to gun people down for stealing property, and they know that.   Probably too naive and dim to understand a sword isn't gonna do shit, and then he flipped out when he got pelted. 


I'm gonna read what he says on his twitter in a minute.   :lol

EDIT: oh wow  :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 12:57:52 PM
"my barbershop was destroyed"

he's a property owner :lawd
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 12:59:29 PM
https://twitter.com/HarrierMagnus/status/1266258612713689089
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on May 31, 2020, 01:00:21 PM
https://twitter.com/HarrierMagnus/status/1267134778337366016

I'm at this part and I have to take a break   :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 01:00:28 PM
real Nazi hours :leon
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on May 31, 2020, 01:00:35 PM
https://twitter.com/HarrierMagnus/status/1266623399234863105

:dead
You just KNOW he practiced moves, alone in his bedroom. :hitler
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on May 31, 2020, 01:01:39 PM
anti-french rev agitprop is :yuck
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 31, 2020, 01:01:47 PM
hit him with a skateboard again jesus christ
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on May 31, 2020, 01:02:19 PM
And there I was, just sitting in Billy Can Can, trying to convince them that all lives matter, when all of a sudden...
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 01:06:12 PM
anti-french rev agitprop is :yuck
https://twitter.com/HarrierMagnus/status/1265406400970268672

going on Twitter to defend Franco, completely unprompted :hitler
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 01:07:54 PM
https://twitter.com/HarrierMagnus/status/1264452152770146309
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 31, 2020, 01:08:09 PM
anti-french rev agitprop is :yuck

Tell that to people just chilling in their German microstates when the revolutionary army knocks on your door.  ::)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on May 31, 2020, 01:11:12 PM
https://twitter.com/HarrierMagnus/status/1264452152770146309

Whoever found this guy's twitter account:  :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on May 31, 2020, 01:12:51 PM
https://twitter.com/HarrierMagnus/status/1266642875904901122

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on May 31, 2020, 01:14:32 PM
https://twitter.com/HarrierMagnus/status/1264452152770146309

Put all weebs in to institutions.
Political institutions?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 01:17:20 PM
https://twitter.com/HarrierMagnus/status/1260444492097822721

Just a reminder that anybody who ever talks like this is a danger to your safety
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 31, 2020, 01:18:50 PM
I can see why he supports universal healthcare  :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on May 31, 2020, 01:18:52 PM
I'm at this weird place where I'm really glad he was assaulted but really glad he didn't die, too.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 01:19:43 PM
https://twitter.com/HarrierMagnus/status/1259574411901927424

That's enough of this person for today :tocry

I completely understand now. He's an incel
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 31, 2020, 01:20:31 PM
https://twitter.com/HarrierMagnus/status/1264452152770146309

weebs rise up and throw off the chains of normie oppression UwU
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on May 31, 2020, 01:21:18 PM
https://twitter.com/HarrierMagnus/status/1259752943890444288

Everything in 1 tweet.

Yeah, i'm done too.   :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on May 31, 2020, 01:23:48 PM
anti-french rev agitprop is :yuck

Tell that to people just chilling in their German microstates when the revolutionary army knocks on your door.  ::)
is this in reference to stuff that happened after thermidor? because if so, i dont care

spoiler (click to show/hide)
but on the real, most of the violence that gets pointed to to poopoo the revolutionary government was comparable in magnitude to shit happening elsewhere in europe at the time
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Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 31, 2020, 01:26:02 PM
https://twitter.com/HarrierMagnus/status/1259574411901927424

That's enough of this person for today :tocry

I completely understand now. He's an incel
he could have posted here  :fbm
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 01:26:02 PM
Yeah, i'm done too.   :lol
Bro check your psychopass... I think I clouded my hue :tocry
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 31, 2020, 01:28:30 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Z5HyWnA.jpg)

 ::)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 31, 2020, 01:28:49 PM
A I guess the US now considers antifa a terrorist organization.  Cool.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 31, 2020, 01:34:28 PM
https://twitter.com/ThomasIsOnline/status/1267147259382300684

 :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 01:37:18 PM
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/29/865261916/a-decade-of-watching-black-people-die
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 01:42:14 PM
(https://i.redd.it/e8wh1a6te3251.png)

fucked with the wrong people
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on May 31, 2020, 01:43:15 PM
dallas sword guy is a tradcath monarchist

www.twitter.com/HarrierMagnus?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

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The year is 20XX , all culture has been reduced down to a cocktail of mental viruses. Cinematic universes have declared war on our own. Dimwitted superheros and super soldiers invade our minds looking to conquer our hearts. The flag they mean to plant inside of us belongs to no nation, but to long-lived media brands that churn to the top of the scum bath that is the conglomerated intellectual property clearing houses we entrust our aesthetic education with.

That all this is ‘accidental’ is too much to swallow. No, this is all deliberate, all planned. There are forces at work that frighten. What is there to be done? This site is a front in a battle, a battle between powerful critico-psychics over what will constitute beauty tomorrow. Do you work for them? Our content is open, but only the true Children of Diotima will find themselves in possession of the key that unlocks the arsenal collected here. Pay close attention. Dissolve the critical insights here shared within your cosmic gut, let taste build up in your blood stream like antibodies. Enhance your capabilities. Join the struggle.

The Autistic Mercury is part review site, part ARG, part training program for the Content Fedaykin who will rescue the human soul from the clutches of the intellectual and aesthetic imperium who command the ideological bugmen that swarm our cities.

:crazy

decries superhero cinematic universes yet writes like rorschach :dead

(https://i.imgur.com/oJEguBU.png)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pennywise on May 31, 2020, 01:56:45 PM
https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1266916809569185799
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 02:03:03 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/HumansBeingBros/comments/gtp5lm/this_is_what_we_need_police_marching_with/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 31, 2020, 02:26:08 PM
me joining a riot

https://twitter.com/Mrtdogg/status/1266952147834470408
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 31, 2020, 02:26:24 PM
yeah they worked together for like 17 years. their dipfuck boss also said the pig was overly aggressive with Black customers
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 31, 2020, 02:28:30 PM
yeah they worked together for like 17 years. their dipfuck boss also said the pig was overly aggressive with Black customers

I think they worked together 17 years ago, not for 17 years. I don't think this is much of a smoking gun as in that there was a clear motive due to that piece of information
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 31, 2020, 02:28:45 PM
https://twitter.com/RaeRevived/status/1267102085524467713

https://twitter.com/RaeRevived/status/1267102099357212676

  :shaq
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 31, 2020, 02:29:39 PM
Thotties for America :rejoice
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 02:46:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfb_zJiMTFU
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 31, 2020, 02:47:46 PM
Thotties for America :rejoice

Thought Leaders  :nope

Thot Leaders :ohyeah
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 02:54:56 PM
the man intentionally killed a former coworker he knew with total impunity.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on May 31, 2020, 02:59:00 PM
I had read a report earlier that the cop worked inside as security and George worked outside as bouncer so they didn't necessarily interact, could be wrong

I thought it was weird to say they know each other when in the murder video George impersonally calls him "officer"

might not recognize him with the mask on though?  but they were all there talking to him as they arrested him
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 03:00:50 PM
could be wrong
you are
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Atramental on May 31, 2020, 03:01:17 PM
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1289538/Antifa-donald-trump-protests-left-wing-anarchists-united-states
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EightBitNate on May 31, 2020, 03:02:50 PM
Live in a relatively nice suburb of Chicago and looting just started at the department stores near me. Never thought it would make it this far.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 31, 2020, 03:04:46 PM
Quote from: New York Times
It was another club, El Nuevo Rodeo, where both Mr. Floyd and Mr. Chauvin worked. Maya Santamaria, who sold the club in January, said she doubted that the two men interacted.

Mr. Floyd worked the occasional weeknight, she said, while Mr. Chauvin worked security on weekends over the past 17 years. Sometimes during the club’s boisterous “urban nights,” she said, when it draws a primarily African-American clientele, Mr. Chauvin was sometimes overly aggressive with customers, sometimes using pepper spray, she said.

Doesn't really matter either way.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 31, 2020, 03:14:24 PM
Live in a relatively nice suburb of Chicago and looting just started at the department stores near me. Never thought it would make it this far.
those animals  :shaking
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 31, 2020, 03:17:04 PM
I don't think we'll see any meaningful reform from this. No way any demilitarization happens as unemployment increases and we enter protracted economic decline. No way prison reform happens during the same. But it will cause a sea change in how people view the police through multiple different lenses.

Ferguson did that... for maybe a few years? Then everyone became complacent again.
Ferguson's impact wasn't wide. It was mostly black folks and a few allies riding that. Now? Almost everyone is riding it.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 31, 2020, 03:25:05 PM
https://twitter.com/VicTafur/status/1267158668996259840
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on May 31, 2020, 03:27:51 PM
Ferguson's impact wasn't wide. It was mostly black folks and a few allies riding that. Now? Almost everyone is riding it.

Many commentators attribute the rise in usage of body cameras amongst the US police forces directly to Ferguson.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 03:29:48 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZW0up7XQAAmXtt?format=jpg&name=large)

none of this would have been possible without the movie Joker
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 31, 2020, 03:33:32 PM
Live in a relatively nice suburb of Chicago and looting just started at the department stores near me. Never thought it would make it this far.

Get yourself a nice OLED breh  ::)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 03:34:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmUZyIuAipo&feature=youtu.be

Watching all the community donations (and people in masks) has been a really nice thing to see.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 31, 2020, 03:35:52 PM
A former coworker unironically posted a Joke clip on his Instagram last night. Dude lives in DTLA too. I knew him buying a Tesla was a bad sign, but I didn't know it was this bad.

Did I mention he's a major weeb too?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 31, 2020, 03:36:32 PM
Ferguson's impact wasn't wide. It was mostly black folks and a few allies riding that. Now? Almost everyone is riding it.

Many commentators attribute the rise in usage of body cameras amongst the US police forces directly to Ferguson.

What about my post did you not get?

During Ferguson most people viewed the police as protecting the town.

This time, my entire Facebook is mostly on the side of the protesters. Even people that disliked this stuff in the past openly support now.

Ferguson, we had to defend the humanity of Michael Brown. Minneapolis, almost all people get it. Got Randy fucking Orton and known conservatives coming out saying this is wrong. Not only that, but also black lives matter SPECIFICALLY. When Baltimore happened most of the dialogue was WHY ARE THRY DOING THIS.

There was some of that for a time the first few days. But I had never seen such wide support of such protests. It was like the WBY ARE THEY DOING THIS was drowned out by mass support for the first time.

Then last night happened the cops mask came off.

Now no one is arguing or caring why they're doing it except dumbasses. The narrative is so anti-cop now, which is a stack contrast to the Mike Brown and Freddie Gray protests. This is a massive sea change. They're even protesting overseas amid a pandemic.

On reddit alone during Ferguson they denied, denied, denied. Now? Almost all of reddit is anti-cop. That's an entire generation no matter the race, considering police to be pigs.

I won't even get into Anon coming into the fight.

Cameras were used for cop skepticism. Right now where we are is way, way past sketpcism. The People outright detest police now.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 03:40:52 PM
https://www.twitch.tv/smokenscan

car chase of a stolen truck in LA
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Coffee Dog on May 31, 2020, 03:49:18 PM
People at the protests just realized that no matter where in the country you are, all it takes is a single car fire and the police will start playing call of duty and begin treating every person they see like an opposing force. ("One easy trick, cops HATE him!")

The narrative has shifted compared to past protests, and it's almost entirely because people started destroying property much much sooner and in more locations. Really smart, now the police are shooting at journalists and grandmas trying to pick up groceries and they make the news for us.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 31, 2020, 03:49:47 PM
When Ferguson went down, it was a couple years after Trayvon Martin's death but police abuses hadn't gotten much traction as a subject of national discussion before then. BLM and the ubiquity of camera phones were able to get the media and politicians to talk about it like a major issue.

It's been six years since Ferguson. For young people at these protests, this has been a big deal since they were in middle or high school. Among older people, especially white libs, there's way more awareness and concern going in than there was in 2014.

People like to shit on BLM for petering out, not being organized enough, etc. but there's been a significant change in public opinion over a few years. The demonstrations are helped by everyone being unemployed and stressed out, and by the footage of the killing being so horrible, but the groundwork was also laid before this.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 31, 2020, 03:55:13 PM
Transhuman, it's time to stop.  Just stop.

No, let him be a Bogan. Maybe he'll pull out the "my Grandma was in Auschwitz" card like Lager.  :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 31, 2020, 03:56:08 PM
A former coworker unironically posted a Joke clip on his Instagram last night. Dude lives in DTLA too. I knew him buying a Tesla was a bad sign, but I didn't know it was this bad.

Did I mention he's a major weeb too?
(https://i.imgur.com/cakM7tE.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 31, 2020, 04:01:04 PM
Hey wasn't "MAGA Day" meant to be last night? Where all the pro-Trump tough guys were going to show up in DC to protect his honor?

Cause I didn't hear a thing about that actually happening.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 31, 2020, 04:03:04 PM
Hey wasn't "MAGA Day" meant to be last night? Where all the pro-Trump tough guys were going to show up in DC to protect his honor?

Cause I didn't hear a thing about that actually happening.

Didn't amount to shit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 31, 2020, 04:08:12 PM
A former British colony :lol

Hey, have you guys heard of this former colony of Britain? I guess they’re called the United States?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 04:08:23 PM
Among older people, especially white libs, there's way more awareness and concern going in than there was in 2014.


Six years ago I would never have wished that I could be on the ground-level in my car giving the black power fist for safety but here we are. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 31, 2020, 04:08:51 PM
That's all that I saw about that

Re: troops and maganight
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 31, 2020, 04:08:52 PM
Benji come get your people:

https://twitter.com/robbysoave/status/1267184290456113152
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on May 31, 2020, 04:10:08 PM
Hey wasn't "MAGA Day" meant to be last night? Where all the pro-Trump tough guys were going to show up in DC to protect his honor?

Cause I didn't hear a thing about that actually happening.

I think they sent out a scout with a bow and arrow early on and got discouraged at the results.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on May 31, 2020, 04:11:25 PM
https://twitter.com/tssznews/status/1266987764769271808

:salute
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 04:20:04 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/YpA5TZR.png)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 04:28:25 PM
resisting the urge to photoshop that onto the tank man photo
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: toku on May 31, 2020, 04:30:05 PM
Feel inspired to write an entire album based on that photo. "Me and My FiberglASS Girlfriend."
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on May 31, 2020, 04:32:11 PM
https://twitter.com/gbaroth/status/1266945681618419713

old but still...
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Bebpo on May 31, 2020, 04:33:59 PM
I don't post much in the non-videogame stuff because I've generally learned to not engage with anyone on anything important because no one ever changes, but when one person I know kept bitching about how this (i.e. the protests) is "Destroying our country day by day", this was my response and is basically my feelings on the whole thing:

Our country's been destroyed forever since it was founded, just a lot of people are privileged enough to not have to see it/deal with it because the destruction was primarily effecting minorities and poor people. This is bringing out people's pain and frustration to the open and if it makes privileged people and more importantly the police feel some discomfort, nervousness or fear, well that's what lots of people feel every day and are told to deal with it. If we had competent leadership in government, they could potentially actually do something like enact some measure of police accountability reform and track down and arrest the remaining officers involved in Floyd's death, but we don't and so this is just going to escalate and most likely nothing is going to change (outside hopefully sending the officer and maybe officers to prison), but it will re-stoke awareness in the public and awareness of people's dissatisfaction of the police, so that hopefully when we have more competent people in governmental positions they can start to enact actual reform because the people of the country want change.

I feel like the endgame for decades has been stronger police accountability from unbiased 3rd party with power to bring criminal and civil charges against officers. If an officer had to worry that when he did something wrong/illegal he could go to jail/prison, lose his job, and or go bankrupt...good. That incentive is probably the only thing that would keep more cops in line to be better individuals and commit less illegal/wrong/horrible acts. If a lawyer blatantly fucks up he loses his licenses and can't practice as an attorney anywhere, if a doctor does something blatantly illegal he'll be sued to oblivion and most likely never practice again. Cops should be the same way.

The issue is that this kind of major system rehaul has to come from the top and the world could be destroyed in a nuclear apocalypse and Trump still wouldn't do something like that. He is the worst person in the world for this moment. So short term-wise, besides arresting and bringing charges and a fair trial against the officers in the Floyd murder, I don't see anything coming from this other than awareness. Do protests again when Biden hopefully is president and Dems have the house & senate and maybe then they can actually make some baby reform action steps.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Bebpo on May 31, 2020, 04:36:45 PM
Aaand, his response is

Quote
the democrats own this disaster.  Every broken window, every burnt building, every destroyed small business, every stolen item, every innocent cop/civlian killed.
I guess we are going to civil war
That'll be an interesting end to 2020

Yeah. This is why I don't bother engaging with crazy people on real topics. They just live in such an alternate reality it's :|


Anyhow, hopefully something good comes from these protests.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 04:38:59 PM
resisting the urge to photoshop that onto the tank man photo

If there is one thing to take away from this: there's no point in resisting. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on May 31, 2020, 04:41:10 PM
resisting the urge to photoshop that onto the tank man photo

(https://i.imgur.com/OWb24Qj.png)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 31, 2020, 04:43:25 PM
 :kermit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 04:44:19 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/OWb24Qj.png)
I was thinking of replacing the man not the tanks but this is so much funnier :dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 31, 2020, 04:50:51 PM
:kermit

You got yourself a free Switch, yet?

I just don't want my Bore brehs to make the same mistakes I made. The last time I looted shit, I came away with a case of beer and two cartons of cigarettes. :stahp
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 04:55:02 PM
The last time I looted shit
is that what you call your teacher's salary
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 31, 2020, 04:57:25 PM
:kermit

You got yourself a free Switch, yet?

I just don't want my Bore brehs to make the same mistakes I made. The last time I looted shit, I came away with a case of beer and two cartons of cigarettes. :stahp
you calling me an animal?  ::)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 31, 2020, 04:58:47 PM
The last time I looted shit
is that what you call your teacher's salary

I am a civil servant that works extremely hard and is well respected in his faculty.   ::)

I am published scientist :bolo
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 05:07:16 PM
J sakai bruh moment :titus
It's like they always said... the working man has no nation. (https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/birdman2.png)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on May 31, 2020, 05:08:30 PM
The last time I looted shit, I came away with a case of beer and two cartons of cigarettes. :stahp

cigarettes are a good get; high value by size / weight, and easily resellable without a lot of questions asked unlike stuff like consumer electronics. Shoulda went for spirits over beers though.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 31, 2020, 05:10:35 PM
https://twitter.com/jonnyboyca/status/1267199031949713408
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 31, 2020, 05:14:19 PM
The last time I looted shit, I came away with a case of beer and two cartons of cigarettes. :stahp

cigarettes are a good get; high value by size / weight, and easily resellable without a lot of questions asked unlike stuff like consumer electronics. Shoulda went for spirits over beers though.

It was for my personal use :pimp

I was never about that life selling black market cigarettes. I grew up in a middle-class household :bolo
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 05:14:55 PM
(https://external-preview.redd.it/R--aJwnC9JfidQ-aIicM6fIVxivdqlp8pxW2_pZOe5Y.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=447580cab0b8f3f4c19d4aaea2be823fd4b5c722)

one of the MPD officers had his password set to "retard" :lol

what's his bore account?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 31, 2020, 05:15:08 PM
The last time I looted shit, I came away with a case of beer and two cartons of cigarettes. :stahp

cigarettes are a good get; high value by size / weight, and easily resellable without a lot of questions asked unlike stuff like consumer electronics. Shoulda went for spirits over beers though.

It was for my personal use :pimp

I was never about that life selling black market cigarettes. I grew up in a middle-class household :bolo
our very own jake paul  ;)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on May 31, 2020, 05:18:56 PM
(https://external-preview.redd.it/R--aJwnC9JfidQ-aIicM6fIVxivdqlp8pxW2_pZOe5Y.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=447580cab0b8f3f4c19d4aaea2be823fd4b5c722)

one of the MPD officers had his password set to "retard" :lol

what's his bore account?

christine senko :fbm
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: toku on May 31, 2020, 05:21:55 PM
resisting the urge to photoshop that onto the tank man photo

(https://i.imgur.com/OWb24Qj.png)

this a viral tweet bro hash tag that shit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on May 31, 2020, 05:25:45 PM
The last time I looted shit
is that what you call your teacher's salary

I am a civil servant that works extremely hard and is well respected in his faculty.   ::)

I am published scientist :bolo

How about you civil serve deez nutz?  :steiner
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 31, 2020, 05:29:28 PM
civil serve all over the dick bitch  :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 31, 2020, 05:31:41 PM
I don't think we'll see any meaningful reform from this. No way any demilitarization happens as unemployment increases and we enter protracted economic decline. No way prison reform happens during the same. But it will cause a sea change in how people view the police through multiple different lenses.

Ferguson did that... for maybe a few years? Then everyone became complacent again.
Ferguson's impact wasn't wide. It was mostly black folks and a few allies riding that. Now? Almost everyone is riding it.

Ferguson absolutely lead in to this. BLM as a movement learned and adapted, from it every black person will pull up their phone as soon as they see a cop which helped get them to this point anyway.

True, I forgot about the build up to this moment.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 31, 2020, 05:39:03 PM
People in DC are literally standing in front of the White House changing "Hands up, don't shoot" in 2020, so to say Ferguson's impact wasn't wide is kind of a weird thing to say. Ferguson was the first time of the modern era (post Rodney King) where America was really exposed to the militarization of the police and true riots and anger on a public scale on television for everyone to see, and every event since then is has been an escalation from both the people and the police until we're at a place where dozens of major cities are having full blown riots with police openly attacking protestors and media alike on camera with no fucks given whatsoever in wall to wall coverage.

Well, it felt wide to black people, but we are a minority. In mainstream society it felt like Ferguson reaction was far more negative. The reaction now is more understanding and nuanced.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 31, 2020, 05:39:53 PM
https://twitter.com/sgrate__/status/1267188986285568002

 :biden senior biden moment
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 05:44:58 PM
https://twitter.com/sgrate__/status/1267188986285568002

 :biden senior biden moment

I have upvoted so many reddit comments after only reading the first line only to give them a hard down votes after reading the follow ups.  Really know how this crowd must feel. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on May 31, 2020, 05:45:02 PM
https://twitter.com/sgrate__/status/1267188986285568002

 :biden senior biden moment

They had us in the first half, not gonna lie .gif
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 31, 2020, 05:46:01 PM
It felt to me the mainstream narrative for Ferguson was "they deserved it" "do what the police says". It brought up police militarization issue but it was given a band-aid (cameras) rather than actual effort. Then Baltimore happened a few months (year) later and most people had the same reaction. In 2020 people are far more understanding. So I guess Ferguson did start it but it took a few years to catch on to more than black people.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 31, 2020, 05:52:49 PM
It felt to me the mainstream narrative for Ferguson was "they deserved it". It brought up police militarization issue but it was given a band-aid (cameras) rather than actual effort. In 2020 people are far more understanding. So I guess Ferguson did start it but it took a few years to catch on to more than black people.

And it's only cause of Ferguson that it happened. Because, unsurprisingly, cops kept killing off black men and it kept getting videotaped. Of course the response to corona and the economy crashing got way more people keen to listen as well.

This is all due to Ferguson, what happened to Trayvon, all of it. It all lead to a point where people couldn't even pretend to look the other cheek anymore. Of course some still try, others are massive idiots, but it's much harder to ignore for them now. And the mobilization from Ferguson on is the key to all of it.

Thanks for describing the issue in a succinct manner. It's still weird to see people that used to be "WHY ARE THEY LOOTING" now openly support violent protest. I've always supported their right to "riot" so to see so many coming out in support of the black communities anger is very weird for me. It's good, but it's weird and very new for me.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 31, 2020, 05:54:25 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/mFCCuxy.jpg)

I think the neighbors think I'm spreadin' covid  :pimp
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 31, 2020, 05:54:55 PM
J Cole :heartbeat
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 31, 2020, 05:56:01 PM
My man

https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1267202628959821827
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on May 31, 2020, 05:59:43 PM
https://twitter.com/sgrate__/status/1267188986285568002

 :biden senior biden moment

I can't keep up with all this content

 :whew
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 31, 2020, 06:07:48 PM
Seeing the destruction of areas that I peacefully marched through yesterday is just a major fucking head trip. I mean just hearing about it and having people messaging me asking if we were okay was weird enough, but seeing it documented is just next level.

Also everything yesterday happened in one of the areas I worked in for an extended period, and now apparently things are going down in the area I spent the last 2 years working. Seeing places I spent significant portions of my life at get utterly ravaged is not something I ever expected to encounter.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on May 31, 2020, 06:10:19 PM
https://twitter.com/shomaristone/status/1267208548452315137 (https://twitter.com/shomaristone/status/1267208548452315137)

Both inspiring and deeply troubling that it has come to this :tocry
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 31, 2020, 06:12:29 PM
In other news, supposedly Anonymous has leaked Epstein's entire black book

https://imgur.com/a/lw0YxY9
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 06:15:54 PM
Nice, we got his... uh... contact list  :winning
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 31, 2020, 06:17:51 PM
https://twitter.com/alfonsohoops/status/1267217520962015233
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 06:18:18 PM
I don't get why protesters don't just move the barricades back and take them away.  I think I'd be pretty good at protesting if I didn't hate crowds. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 06:20:20 PM
https://twitter.com/alfonsohoops/status/1267217520962015233

They are pretty honest about caring more for the health of shoe stores in both cases. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 31, 2020, 06:22:20 PM
Nice, we got his... uh... contact list  :winning

Finally I will be able to contact james to get my money back
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 31, 2020, 06:23:09 PM
https://twitter.com/AllegedlyZo/status/1267216333176999936

bork annihilated  :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 06:23:45 PM
Finally I will be able to contact james to get my money back
Sorry pal... no cell service in hell
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on May 31, 2020, 06:23:54 PM
Porch pirates have evolved.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 31, 2020, 06:25:00 PM
Finally I will be able to contact james to get my money back
Sorry pal... no cell service in hell

Allah forgives everything, even jacking it to Splatoon characters. :blessup
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on May 31, 2020, 06:27:14 PM



No he doesn't, you fucking kaffir! :maf

That's where Islam draws the line, Splatoon?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 31, 2020, 06:28:05 PM
exo have you jacked it to hentai yet
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 31, 2020, 06:28:42 PM
https://twitter.com/Trillburne/status/1267193145458151424
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 31, 2020, 06:29:31 PM
Squid girls  :nope

Taboo charming mother :ohyeah
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 31, 2020, 06:33:42 PM
https://twitter.com/PineyMcknuckle/status/1267221111940493312

bore mods irl  :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 06:40:38 PM
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1267143249887715328

NO JUSTICE NO SAMPLE TEXT
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 31, 2020, 06:41:43 PM
https://twitter.com/TheStolenBeer/status/1267093331449909248
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Kestastrophe on May 31, 2020, 06:53:09 PM
(https://i.redd.it/ow4q1f9re4251.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EightBitNate on May 31, 2020, 06:53:55 PM
That’s how I’m tryna be 😏
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on May 31, 2020, 06:55:46 PM
https://twitter.com/SophiaLeeHyun/status/1267216604388978689 (https://twitter.com/SophiaLeeHyun/status/1267216604388978689)

Is the world burning or is the world larping GTA  :doge

spoiler (click to show/hide)
The guy was alright, thankfully.
[close]
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 06:58:14 PM
https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/1267221389012094977
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 31, 2020, 06:58:15 PM
niccas on something awful are calling this the ACAB Spring lmao
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: paprikastaude on May 31, 2020, 07:01:00 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/hZBrxCQ/9-DB4-A79-E-05-BD-4538-9-C10-17-DB391-B3238.jpg)

 :walkaway
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 31, 2020, 07:03:46 PM
https://twitter.com/Sony/status/1267207252672421889
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 31, 2020, 07:04:49 PM
https://twitter.com/juliaboccagno/status/1267187743035133955

MAGA Day!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 31, 2020, 07:06:42 PM
https://twitter.com/mcguirereports/status/1267227142548586503
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EightBitNate on May 31, 2020, 07:08:06 PM
https://twitter.com/Sony/status/1267207252672421889

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/472/727/90a.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 07:10:15 PM
Watching LA stuff, Canada really needs more Latinas. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 31, 2020, 07:10:31 PM
https://twitter.com/diabliitax/status/1267137384132599808

https://www.scribd.com/user/278592775/OpDeathEaters
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: samir on May 31, 2020, 07:14:07 PM
'Murica you crazy
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: OnlyRegret on May 31, 2020, 07:17:25 PM
wow, wild
definitely gonna look forward to the memes from China  8)

god, transhuman you're just obtuse and dumb
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on May 31, 2020, 07:17:46 PM
https://twitter.com/AllegedlyZo/status/1267216333176999936

bork annihilated  :lol

I just bought a new DS copy of The World Ends with You  :walkaway
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 31, 2020, 07:18:19 PM
https://twitter.com/WillontheRadio/status/1267207689337278466

Time to but more police cars :teehee
I’m West Philadelphia born and raised, but in a playground is where I spent most of my days  :phil
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 31, 2020, 07:18:49 PM
https://twitter.com/AllegedlyZo/status/1267216333176999936

bork annihilated  :lol

I just bought a new DS copy of The World Ends with You  :walkaway

it's ok, was probably a repro
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 07:19:50 PM
https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1266961630719590401

Eloquent as always, Ms. Coulter.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: OnlyRegret on May 31, 2020, 07:20:18 PM
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1267157142802518018
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on May 31, 2020, 07:25:27 PM
https://twitter.com/WillontheRadio/status/1267207689337278466

Time to but more police cars :teehee
(https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/2dfd25f/2147483647/strip/true/crop/3000x1897+0+0/resize/840x531!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F27%2Fbd%2Ff03cf5954e6faa6424489e3ec9ae%2Fapphoto-tesla-pickup2.JPG)

Prepare for another unprecedented public and private sector partnership with the White House Riot Control Task Force.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on May 31, 2020, 07:28:49 PM
http://ifuckedanncoulterintheasshard.blogspot.com/2005/04/farmers-market-on-fairfax-and-3rd-is.html?m=1
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 31, 2020, 07:30:13 PM
i'd pay to see ann coulter fucked by a big, muscular black man. That dark-light skin contrast :drool
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 07:31:11 PM
i'd pay to see ann coulter fucked by a big, muscular black man. That dark-light skin contrast :drool
:bedroomeyes
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 07:33:39 PM
I was going to make a joke about paying for porn but its 2020 and I could see her needing a post-revolution only fans. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: OnlyRegret on May 31, 2020, 07:34:03 PM
These riots and violence aren't America, says politicians of a country formed from a war over being taxed for tea.

don't forget the cucks with the police flag AND no steppy on snaek flag
like, fucker, who do think is gonna do the treading? grandma?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 07:35:40 PM
What's dinesh up to these days?
Grooming college students

https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1266179954204651522
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 31, 2020, 07:38:30 PM
Just watched a bunch of white people walking out of a Patagonia with arms full of surfboards on live TV. Unreal.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: OnlyRegret on May 31, 2020, 07:42:27 PM
 :uguu

https://twitter.com/inteldotwav/status/1266925835623301120
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on May 31, 2020, 07:46:47 PM
https://twitter.com/mcguirereports/status/1267227142548586503

https://twitter.com/MnDPS_DPS/status/1267237995477970945

phew
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: samir on May 31, 2020, 07:50:38 PM
https://streamable.com/9w5c5e

 :-\
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 07:52:29 PM
(https://streamable.com/9w5c5e)
idiot grandson with the golfclub is worthless
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on May 31, 2020, 07:54:59 PM
https://twitter.com/Sony/status/1267207252672421889
:tauntaun
These companies that'd have no problem chaining 3rd world people to their work bench to save 5 cents on their plastic toys, acting like MLK on Twitter.

(https://streamable.com/9w5c5e)
idiot grandson with the golfclub is worthless
Doesn't he say "get away from my wife"?

EDIT: Maybe he's both.  :rash
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 31, 2020, 07:57:52 PM
It's like brands getting on board for Pride. It's obviously disingenuous as hell but it's a good sign.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 31, 2020, 07:59:34 PM
It's a great sign. It means public discourse is changing. I refuse to complain about it.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 31, 2020, 08:03:55 PM
Just a few years ago when we were begging for Hillary and presidential candidates to even acknowledge BLM, so to complain that corporations are now tweeting #blacklivesmatter in some publicity stunt feels highly short-sighted. People have fought hard for recognition of this movement.

By doing this they can also put pressure on government intelligence agencies that are increasingly imprisoning people for being a part of "black militancy groups".

If Trump loses in November and we gain the senate we can foster true change.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 08:04:05 PM
Possibly the best thing that might come from this, at least for me, is that there is now a real chance that best picture will go to Black Panther 2.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on May 31, 2020, 08:04:32 PM
https://m.imgur.com/tmpy5FB

Yet another victim of.... Meltdown May.
She'll be fine. What's the "victim" stuff here? Am I missing something in that wall of text?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 31, 2020, 08:05:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwvAgDCOdU4
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 08:06:08 PM
She'll be fine. What's the "victim" stuff here? Am I missing something in that wall of text?
Meltdown May is a phenomenon witnessed globally during the month of May where people spontaneously and completely lose their shit. It has affected over 1 in 3 Boreans.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Kestastrophe on May 31, 2020, 08:07:15 PM
I believe the national guard in Minneapolis have live rounds tonight due to "credible threats" of targeted attacks given to them by the FBI
Is this true? Oh god, hope this isnt the case
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 31, 2020, 08:08:03 PM
https://streamable.com/9w5c5e

 :-\

cant believe the undercover cops blackfaced for this.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on May 31, 2020, 08:08:45 PM
https://m.imgur.com/tmpy5FB

Yet another victim of.... Meltdown May.
She'll be fine. What's the "victim" stuff here? Am I missing something in that wall of text?

Meme for the month as it had a few meltdowns.

Also welcome back, ronito.
Thank you. Things have been crazy busy with new job work and COVID (I'm now in the medical industry). But god I've missed you guys. Except Glen. He's not around right?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 08:09:05 PM
He lives on in our hearts
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 08:09:42 PM
Watching ABC commenters watching looting from a commentator 'And I think I saw a pharmacy.  They will want to focus there' while women a walks out of a differnt store with arm fulls of potted flowers.    :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 31, 2020, 08:10:06 PM
http://geekunifiedtheory.com/minneapolis-and-the-bell-riots/

(https://i1.wp.com/geekunifiedtheory.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/FB_IMG_1590795939184.jpg?resize=487%2C300)

DS9 remains the GOAT Trek.

Rewatching that ep tonight.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 31, 2020, 08:11:54 PM
For Glen, Meltdown May is just the transition from Meltdown April to Meltdown June.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EightBitNate on May 31, 2020, 08:13:31 PM
Looters hit my uncle’s liquor store. Driving there now. Will report back if it’s cool or funny or shit like that.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: toku on May 31, 2020, 08:14:12 PM
stay safe
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 08:15:22 PM
And how is Glen navigating the trying times of Meltdown May?
He was really spooked by the fact that Mandark knew what his twitter was and deleted it. He seems a lot more peaceful these days!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EightBitNate on May 31, 2020, 08:18:15 PM
3 minute wait for 911 in Chicago

And don’t worry guys we’re not going to stop them. Just going to check it out and take pics of the damage.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 31, 2020, 08:18:23 PM
And how is Glen navigating the trying times of Meltdown May?
He was really spooked by the fact that Mandark knew what his twitter was and deleted it. He seems a lot more peaceful these days!

I've now gotten him to delete accounts on two sites. Pretty chuffed tbh.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on May 31, 2020, 08:19:28 PM
They pushed a curfew notice though my phone. 6PM to 6AM, county wide for L.A.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435883674471235584/716808699171307530/Screenshot_20200531-172129.png)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 08:20:24 PM
Is this true? Oh god, hope this isnt the case
Can confirm. National guard have live rounds
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 08:22:49 PM
Not sure we should be happy about pushing people off of other forums
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nuitangg on May 31, 2020, 08:23:30 PM
https://twitter.com/TNHTalk/status/1267214679027314688

 :dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 08:24:02 PM
Not sure we should be happy about pushing people off of other forums
it's like sectioning someone. Even if it's involuntary, it's for their own good
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on May 31, 2020, 08:28:38 PM
It's a great sign. It means public discourse is changing. I refuse to complain about it.
If you want to see it as a symbol of the changing wind, that's fair.
My point is these companies will have no problem (superficially) supporting any cause that least hurts their bottom line.
Given Sony's demographic, i don't think it's absurd for them to side with the protesters, but i still find these companies trying to act human inherently grotesque.

But yeah, it does indirectly show what the larger public perceives to be good, and that is admittedly a good sign of change.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 31, 2020, 08:28:51 PM
If Trump loses in November and we gain the senate we can foster true change.

Unfortunately, police reform's a good example of the limits of electoralism. There are a bunch of cities where the mayor and the political leadership are at odds with the police department and can't get their agenda through. In Minneapolis fighting over the "killology" training, or in New York where they literally turned their back on Bill DeBlasio (IIRC over stop-and-frisk) and he's backed waaaaaay down since then.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: curly on May 31, 2020, 08:31:13 PM
Mandark endorsing revolution from below :rejoice
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 08:33:51 PM
Can you even pass federal laws regarding policing? Seems like a 10th amendment thing.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 31, 2020, 08:38:35 PM
Can you even pass federal laws regarding policing? Seems like a 10th amendment thing.

Maybe you could think of a federal law regarding policing. Perhaps one sponsored by Joe Biden. Hypothetically one which has been fodder for debate in two consecutive Democratic presidential primaries.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 31, 2020, 08:38:53 PM
nårolf was suicide by cop.  :-\
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 31, 2020, 08:39:19 PM
Not sure we should be happy about pushing people off of other forums

I think you should be more supportive of my accomplishments.  :hmph
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 31, 2020, 08:40:47 PM
They just had a guy on the news who identified himself as a Marine Corps veteran, they asked him if he had a message he wanted to share. He got out "Fuck cops" before they muted the mic and switched away. Absolute hero.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 08:41:38 PM
I'll print and pin it to the fridge with your other posts.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 31, 2020, 08:43:37 PM
All those corporate twitter accounts couldn’t and wouldn’t say shit like that if they didn’t have data that showed it was going to be the best thing for their brand. I mean, maybe there’s a rogue woke social media manager out there, but on the whole I think it just goes to show where people are with black people being killed by police and there’s nothing wrong with celebrating that as a positive shift. Of course they’re not going to do anything meaningful, but now they know they better shut the fuck up and support justice 🤷‍♀️
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EightBitNate on May 31, 2020, 08:44:31 PM
Officer cousin said to turn back. We got about 4 minutes of video from the security cameras. He told us to just file a report and contact the insurance company.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 08:47:17 PM
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2020/05/trumps-george-floyd-obama-protest-police-violence-kneeling.html
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 08:50:38 PM
Maybe you could think of a federal law regarding policing. Perhaps one sponsored by Joe Biden. Hypothetically one which has been fodder for debate in two consecutive Democratic presidential primaries.
Looks like I'm right but you're also right. I won't explain why, because I'm petty and hate you.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tasty on May 31, 2020, 08:53:34 PM
I'm here for rebel shosta.

https://twitter.com/Izuki67545946/status/1200778872008138755
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 31, 2020, 08:57:47 PM
(https://i.redd.it/ow4q1f9re4251.jpg)

I mean, that may be some peoples fetish, but GOD DAMN. :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 31, 2020, 09:04:25 PM
It's a great sign. It means public discourse is changing. I refuse to complain about it.
If you want to see it as a symbol of the changing wind, that's fair.
My point is these companies will have no problem (superficially) supporting any cause that least hurts their bottom line.
Given Sony's demographic, i don't think it's absurd for them to side with the protesters, but i still find these companies trying to act human inherently grotesque.

But yeah, it does indirectly show what the larger public perceives to be good, and that is admittedly a good sign of change.

When brands jumped on lgbt rights it started to become more mainstream. I don't care if it's seen as shallow or even superficial. I consider it a win.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 31, 2020, 09:04:46 PM
https://twitter.com/SPITG0DZ/status/1267137471298646016
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 31, 2020, 09:05:29 PM
Big brands taking a side in the kulture wars is going to make a certain type of person lose their fucking mind btw

Oh I've already anticipated the piece someone's going to write saying opposition to police brutality shouldn't be a central issue to the left because it's so easily co-opted by corporate neoliberalism, and started getting mad about it in advance.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 31, 2020, 09:06:41 PM
https://twitter.com/gamakkkkk/status/1267168574214373377
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 31, 2020, 09:07:45 PM
MY RESPONSE TO BRANDS BEING AGAINST POLICE BRUTALITY IS BURNING MY PS4

FUCK YOU SONY, I'M BUYING A SWITCH AND NOT PS5
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 31, 2020, 09:09:20 PM
https://twitter.com/gamakkkkk/status/1267168574214373377

etoilet got fucking rocked that day
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 31, 2020, 09:10:11 PM
https://twitter.com/_MariettaDavis/status/1267233819469504513

(https://i.imgur.com/ItW0mJT.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 31, 2020, 09:11:00 PM
https://youtu.be/bNucrdwDlBc

If your child has a ps4 please do this to save them from the leftist media :tocry
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on May 31, 2020, 09:14:19 PM
https://twitter.com/mang0ld/status/1267158334370504710
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tasty on May 31, 2020, 09:14:40 PM
https://youtu.be/bNucrdwDlBc

If your child has a ps4 please do this to save them from the leftist media :tocry

Have I smoked so much weed that I missed new prez Bowser giving the Nintendo version of Order 66? :mindblown

Should I be destroying my Sony Blu-ray player? :mindblown
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 31, 2020, 09:15:45 PM
https://twitter.com/hasanthehun/status/1267258306508152834
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on May 31, 2020, 09:16:16 PM
MY RESPONSE TO BRANDS BEING AGAINST POLICE BRUTALITY IS BURNING MY PS4

FUCK YOU SONY, I'M BUYING A SWITCH AND NOT PS5
That's just PS4 running any late gen game.  :fbm
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on May 31, 2020, 09:18:12 PM
It's a great sign. It means public discourse is changing. I refuse to complain about it.
If you want to see it as a symbol of the changing wind, that's fair.
My point is these companies will have no problem (superficially) supporting any cause that least hurts their bottom line.
Given Sony's demographic, i don't think it's absurd for them to side with the protesters, but i still find these companies trying to act human inherently grotesque.

But yeah, it does indirectly show what the larger public perceives to be good, and that is admittedly a good sign of change.

When brands jumped on lgbt rights it started to become more mainstream. I don't care if it's seen as shallow or even superficial. I consider it a win.

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/6cad73d928feaaaafbf7b6b06e97bb10/852634da36333470-e6/s1280x1920/caabdd1478c10a5369eab875054238e7f4285b4d.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 31, 2020, 09:19:02 PM
Quite amazing no one were killed there, jesus the speed.

https://twitter.com/BoydHuppert/status/1267243913250836480
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on May 31, 2020, 09:19:23 PM
We live in a society

https://twitter.com/P0kes/status/1267230163521191936

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXlpVz9rnx4
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 31, 2020, 09:21:26 PM
Michael Tracey fail guys are annoying and all but I'm thinking about the downwardly mobile small business Karen demographic getting hit by the crisis and culture war about looters at the same time... Plus the previous narratives about not being able to operate while the big boys can. it's fuel for some bad stuff

There have been a lot of small businesses releasing similar pro-BLM statements as the big brands. If I were being reaaaalllllly cynical, I'd speculate that having your store burnt down and collecting an insurance check might be a better deal than getting squeezed into bankruptcy by the virus and an inadequate federal response.

Wouldn't be surprised to hear some small business owners come out on the other side of this. There may be just as much sentiment within management of large corporations, but generally employees there know not to do freelance PR, which is a constraint you wouldn't have as a SBO.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on May 31, 2020, 09:25:14 PM
We live in a society

https://twitter.com/P0kes/status/1267230163521191936
"How can we deescalate this us vs them situation? Wait, i know!"
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EightBitNate on May 31, 2020, 09:27:07 PM
Michael Tracey fail guys are annoying and all but I'm thinking about the downwardly mobile small business Karen demographic getting hit by the crisis and culture war about looters at the same time... Plus the previous narratives about not being able to operate while the big boys can. it's fuel for some bad stuff

There have been a lot of small businesses releasing similar pro-BLM statements as the big brands. If I were being reaaaalllllly cynical, I'd speculate that having your store burnt down and collecting an insurance check might be a better deal than getting squeezed into bankruptcy by the virus and an inadequate federal response.

Wouldn't be surprised to hear some small business owners come out on the other side of this. There may be just as much sentiment within management of large corporations, but generally employees there know not to do freelance PR, which is a constraint you wouldn't have as a SBO.

My uncle is actually praying his store gets burned down, and he probably will profit off of all of this, but, maybe unsurprisingly, him and his son are absolutely livid. Having your windows broken and your property stolen is extremely heart breaking, especially to people who take pride in their business. I won’t pretend like I understand the motivation of looting outside of causing anarchy, but it’s extremely disheartening to see an anti-establishment movement attack people who are not a part of the establishment.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on May 31, 2020, 09:37:07 PM
Michael Tracey fail guys are annoying and all but I'm thinking about the downwardly mobile small business Karen demographic getting hit by the crisis and culture war about looters at the same time... Plus the previous narratives about not being able to operate while the big boys can. it's fuel for some bad stuff

There have been a lot of small businesses releasing similar pro-BLM statements as the big brands. If I were being reaaaalllllly cynical, I'd speculate that having your store burnt down and collecting an insurance check might be a better deal than getting squeezed into bankruptcy by the virus and an inadequate federal response.

Wouldn't be surprised to hear some small business owners come out on the other side of this. There may be just as much sentiment within management of large corporations, but generally employees there know not to do freelance PR, which is a constraint you wouldn't have as a SBO.

How many of them let their insurance lapse, or are behind on payments because they paid a million other things before insurance?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on May 31, 2020, 09:37:43 PM
Yeah, I'm with Esch on this. From their perspective mind you, whether it's getting your property burned down by lawless criminals and being gaslit by the media that they're just expressing their emotions or being shut in for several months by nanny state liberals for so long that the business you've been building for years is totally bankrupt, there's no way that the suburban right in this country isn't feeling completely humiliated. We're supercharging the Karens.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on May 31, 2020, 09:40:07 PM
Appreciate the tweets, bluemax.

Sorry I've been too wound up and anxious about this. I'm gonna play Animal Crossing and walk my dog.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on May 31, 2020, 09:48:27 PM
https://twitter.com/drivenbyboredom/status/1267264606566862848
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 09:51:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxnyquOhMa4
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: mormapope on May 31, 2020, 09:52:55 PM
Curfew in Madison and Milwaukee as well. 9pm to 7am. Not fucking with that.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 31, 2020, 09:53:59 PM
https://twitter.com/Loganchance/status/1267245070249410560?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 31, 2020, 09:54:36 PM
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1267229440477716482


Perfect contrast  :lol

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZYb7NGWAAI154r?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 31, 2020, 09:59:41 PM
https://twitter.com/SoCalMAB/status/1267270596645142528


And the college football player in her avatar Tweeted at her asking to be removed from it.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 10:03:32 PM
https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/protest-against-anti-black-racism-police-impunity-in-montreal-turns-violent-1.4962769

The French always betray you in the end.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on May 31, 2020, 10:07:14 PM
Update on Glen:


https://twitter.com/heem_6k/status/1267241077557387268
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on May 31, 2020, 10:09:01 PM
https://twitter.com/HKesvani/status/1267261021305081863
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 31, 2020, 10:11:38 PM
They're going to arrest everyone they've trapped.

(https://i.imgur.com/SBTwLFc.png)

Did it work? Crowd could wedge out one spot if they coordinated
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2020, 10:30:21 PM
Love this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S6TrKQC0aE
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 31, 2020, 10:32:33 PM
Right now I don’t think Donald Trump could get away with being anywhere near 5th ave, let alone shoot someone on it
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 31, 2020, 10:34:44 PM
antifa brand McCarthyism, fun fun fun
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on May 31, 2020, 10:38:49 PM
https://twitter.com/JimNelsonTV/status/1267246200102760450

At least stuff like this might make the press go apeshit, even if their bosses don't.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 31, 2020, 10:41:30 PM
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1267229440477716482


Perfect contrast  :lol

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZYb7NGWAAI154r?format=jpg&name=900x900)
(https://i.imgur.com/R397WfN.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EchoRin on May 31, 2020, 11:22:50 PM
Shit is crazy in Chicago. One of my friend's apartment complex has been busted up (second floor windows. Bunch of looting on Milwaukee which is close to where another friend lives. Another friend is also pretty close to a looting area near the Division blue line stop. My area seems to be fine for now. Some shit happening a little southwest of me, but still pretty far (by foot). Shit fucking sucks. I walked by a peaceful protest yesterday and thought the craziness would mostly stay in downtown, but it's seeping out.

I'm getting a little scared. My friend in the apartment that was busted on the lower floors recorded a video and it shows a cop arriving at one of the looting areas and some random shot at a cop car (by the time other cop cars showed up that crowed dissipated). And he said that there were like 70 looters there at one point. So yeah it's all going to shit. Awful. Obviously things hit a boiling point and this is where we are at.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on May 31, 2020, 11:34:07 PM
https://twitter.com/yejimia/status/1266965137900142593

https://twitter.com/yejimia/status/1266985562289901569
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on May 31, 2020, 11:45:47 PM
https://twitter.com/rafagrassetti/status/1266978347097059328


I’m the joker BB
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on May 31, 2020, 11:48:41 PM
I missed this earlier

https://www.axios.com/trump-protests-riots-4ab7f1e1-1498-433b-8b80-cedf3cc1ae96.html

they're probably trying to compel him to fart out some limp dick "we support our black americans" tweet at the same time he's foaming at the mouth and feels physically in danger down in a bunker

not sure which would ultimately be a better result, continuing to sow discord or weakly pretending to care
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 01, 2020, 12:00:42 AM
twitter is stupid atm, “Anonymous” returned supposedly and these fucks are making fan cams using their videos in what can only be described as the worst thing I’ve seen in the last five minutes. Also the whole idea of a twitter account tied to anonymous is fucking dumb to begin with.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 01, 2020, 12:11:45 AM
Trump hiding in a bunker like a bitch :tocry

c o w a r d m o d e  :whew
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 01, 2020, 12:12:24 AM
www.twitter.com/dellcam/status/1267296290674704384
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 12:18:00 AM
Comrade de Blasio tried his best :tocry
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 01, 2020, 12:22:06 AM
www.twitter.com/dellcam/status/1267296290674704384

Can read the tweet here, but it's deleted on Twitter.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 01, 2020, 12:22:18 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gubynd/houston_police_chief_art_acevedo_getting/

holy shit this speech
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 01, 2020, 12:28:11 AM
https://twitter.com/menstralkrampus/status/1267302347153133569
https://twitter.com/SamanthaJoRoth/status/1267291110197657600

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x44jfGv3XAk
https://twitter.com/sokaydough_/status/1267310717461553152
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on June 01, 2020, 12:36:05 AM
https://twitter.com/JustinWhang/status/1267257306082955265
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 12:37:14 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu1RqB-Jsgw
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 12:39:04 AM
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/qAKhMT6cD4I/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 01, 2020, 12:40:52 AM
Found TrashyFashy's Twitter account:

https://twitter.com/Rule3033/status/1267295181507829761
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 01, 2020, 12:41:35 AM
https://twitter.com/nbcbayarea/status/1267301939106242566
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 12:47:38 AM
Going to bed... If the president's not dead by morning I'll be super disappointed
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 01, 2020, 12:49:14 AM
I’m kinda surprised he didn’t run off to mar a lago and play golf all weekend
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 01, 2020, 12:58:28 AM
I NEED UPDATES ON DC

(https://i.imgur.com/OHsNlP3.png)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 01, 2020, 01:02:03 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/gu7e9w/a_korean_grocery_store_in_la_was_looted_yesterday/

BASED
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 01, 2020, 01:08:12 AM
https://twitter.com/notallbhas/status/1267190418699096066?s=21
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 01, 2020, 01:10:39 AM
Yo I was out for an hour the fuck happened?
Trump died and they're installing Bernie into what remains of the White House.

https://twitter.com/tonalplexus/status/1267301231141281792

More history:

https://twitter.com/InternetHippo/status/1267297768919326720
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 01, 2020, 01:11:40 AM
Yo I was out for an hour the fuck happened?

the white house lights are out for the first time in history and protesters have made it past the barricade while multiple buildings surrounding the white house burn
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 01, 2020, 01:18:47 AM
https://twitter.com/notallbhas/status/1267190418699096066?s=21
good thing she lost! :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 01, 2020, 01:19:14 AM
https://twitter.com/dsupervilleap/status/1267313816339169285

Now the question is: Does the Secret Service allow the protesters to get into the White House (doubt it, it's their job obviously to not allow that to happen) and drag Trumpy-kins kicking and screaming out of a secure bunker (which would be AWESOME).
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 01, 2020, 01:21:00 AM
Remember when people were like "You think the streets will be set on fire when Trump is president? lol you're over exaggerating" :lol

This would have happened whether he was president or not. But setting yourself up as the symbol of this shit wouldn't help.
I think Trump escalated the situation to the point of sustaining (and ramping up) this intensity through multiple days.

His actions are reprehensible, I don't see how this event gets forgotten in the public consciousness between now and November.

There are fires roaring all directions around the White House despite the National Guard ffs

He escalated it absolutely and I won't be shocked if secret service doesn't want to die for him lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 01, 2020, 01:21:32 AM
is there a white house stream
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 01, 2020, 01:24:22 AM
He absolutely did. I'm on team "powder keg waiting to go off" but dude did everything in his power to escalate the fuck out of this :lol

He's just like his police bootlickers. Escalate, escalate, escalate. That's all they know how to do. Zero leadership.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 01, 2020, 01:28:10 AM
I keep replaying the Wu-Tang "is he dead?" skit in my head.

[Meth]
Is he dead?

[Ghost]
Is he fucking dead? What the fuck you mean is he fucking dead, God?

[U-God]
What the fuck kind of question is that, B? Fuck you think?

[Ghost]
The nicca laying there with his fucking...
All types of fucking blood coming out of his fucking...

[U-God]
(sarcastically) Is he is he is he dead?

:dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 01, 2020, 01:28:30 AM
Just looking down the road, the trial for that cop has the potential to start new riots if he gets off.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 01, 2020, 01:29:31 AM
Just looking down the road, the trial for that cop has the potential to start new riots if he gets off.

Guarantee.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EchoRin on June 01, 2020, 01:30:38 AM
Just looking down the road, the trial for that cop has the potential to start new riots if he gets off.

Fucking lock him up. No other option.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 01, 2020, 01:38:31 AM
https://twitter.com/ByYourLogic/status/1267323526467522560
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 01, 2020, 01:44:02 AM
Just looking down the road, the trial for that cop has the potential to start new riots if he gets off.

there will be riots if it's only manslaughter and there will probably be riots even if it's murder

there will also be scattered riots on the 1 year anniversary regardless of trial outcome as with Ferguson
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on June 01, 2020, 01:47:00 AM
The dumb thing is most if not all of the looting is just obnoxious opportunists using the protests as a catalyst. It sucks. Nobody busting into a fucking Patagonia or Forever 21 is doing it because they give a shit about police violence.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 01:50:52 AM
George III = Trump
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 01, 2020, 01:51:46 AM
https://twitter.com/ByYourLogic/status/1267323526467522560
https://twitter.com/cowboy_mode/status/1267323891015393286

https://twitter.com/inizzaf/status/1267324492482842626


https://twitter.com/cowboy_mode/status/1267324621709287426

 :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 01, 2020, 01:54:49 AM
Trump is someone that proves the "ANYONE can be president, even YOU" motto that people had (before him) absolutely wrong.
---

https://twitter.com/Loganchance/status/1267247474978111488

https://twitter.com/Loganchance/status/1267286260671889408

https://twitter.com/Loganchance/status/1267265433666637824
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 01, 2020, 01:58:24 AM
He absolutely did. I'm on team "powder keg waiting to go off" but dude did everything in his power to escalate the fuck out of this :lol

Not to mythologize the presidents of the past but it really feels like at least the most modern ones wouldn't have fucked it like this? Feeling the lack of respect and leadership acutely rn. I remember Zeitlin posted about Nixon talking to Kent State protestors irl, can anyone see Trump doing something like that lol

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/30/us/politics/george-floyd-trump-obama-bush-clinton.html
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on June 01, 2020, 01:59:51 AM
https://twitter.com/comedyunism/status/1267230369197195264

They’ll just buy new ones  ::)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 01, 2020, 02:05:47 AM
He absolutely did. I'm on team "powder keg waiting to go off" but dude did everything in his power to escalate the fuck out of this :lol

He's definitely been escalating it in the short-term, in the long-term a big part of his candidacy and administration was "taking the handcuffs off the cops" [remember him "joking" about how cops should rough-up protesters during his campaign events?] and reversing what meager reforms Obama's administration made.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 01, 2020, 02:17:10 AM
https://twitter.com/ACABNATlON/status/1266820279176531968

nah only the cop one
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: eleuin on June 01, 2020, 02:25:10 AM
if only there was no wifi in the bunker
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on June 01, 2020, 02:27:28 AM
What about Resident Evil cops?  :tocry
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 01, 2020, 02:48:57 AM
Trump is a moron and coward. We know he won't say shit except on Twitter.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 01, 2020, 02:52:42 AM
George III = Trump

Tbh this was his Ground Zero moment and he absolutely whiffed it. Gerrard slip levels


(https://i.imgur.com/UPpc9EY.gif)

It ain't a surprise.

Trump couldn't even score a layup when a journo asked him how he can assure the American people during the trying and scary time of Covid. Went and attacked himself and looked like a deranged, raving idiot. And that was a softball question. Trump couldn't even make a single speech on this. The dude is a wastoid flunky.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 01, 2020, 02:58:18 AM
yeah he ain't saying that shit

would be funny though because his bootlickers would have a stroke. haven't heard shit from repubs the entire past week besides a smattering of isolated cases. I bet if Trump said Black Lives Matter they'd start saying shit realllllll quick.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Beezy on June 01, 2020, 03:00:51 AM
https://twitter.com/FlLTERMIN/status/1267226129708060672

Shooting these at someone's head is fucked up.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 01, 2020, 03:11:18 AM
If he doesn't deescalate the situation dramatically the White House (building) will be attacked and defaced.

In a world that understands history and their societal standing through icons of the state and their civility, society will experience a shift that you can't walk back from.

I think he's not above being like every other politician and following the advice of his handlers.

He's not the type to take a gun to his face.

But we've also said he's a moron. The guy escalated shit all week. You think he cares? He thinks he's invincible, and why shouldn't he? He's gotten away with everything his whole life. What are you on? Trump has no reason to give a flying fuck. He hasn't given an address so far.        Why? The aforementioned reasons. He doesn't care.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on June 01, 2020, 03:13:03 AM
Trumpy will double down and go full “I shat myself on purpose” mode. The racist demographic is his only chance of reelection, and conceding would make him lose most of his support methinks.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 01, 2020, 03:13:34 AM
Quote
I think he's not above being like every other politician and following the advice of his handlers.

:lol

Do you remember his entire impeachment where he denied to even answer the summons while saying it was a sham trial without evidence against him while saying he's not even allowed to come as a witness?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on June 01, 2020, 03:14:19 AM
 :lol :lol :lol

https://mobile.twitter.com/channiescloud_/status/1267333317927395329
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 01, 2020, 03:23:55 AM
Trumpy will double down and go full “I shat myself on purpose” mode. The racist demographic is his only chance of reelection, and conceding would make him lose most of his support methinks.

it's important to remember they're easily susceptible to conspiracy theories that rationalize what they want to see, they'd be disappointed but would say "they forced him to say that to get them to stop burning down our cities"
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 01, 2020, 04:04:32 AM
:lol :lol :lol

https://mobile.twitter.com/channiescloud_/status/1267333317927395329

unfortunately it's a year old video and the madman isn't even FBI, they just assumed he was a specific person they were looking for when he wasn't

have no idea how he got them so compliant

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CA03U0UngfG/?igshid=1xyb4jncvnksn
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 01, 2020, 04:07:13 AM
White House not safe anymore. USS and guard doesn't have what it takes (dangerous). We are heading for FL where the real tough guys are. Flynn's back to fight!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 01, 2020, 04:35:01 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZYYrZjXQAEE-dY?format=jpg&name=large)

 :lawd

spoiler (click to show/hide)
kaitlyn bennett, forgive me filler for I have sinned.
[close]
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 01, 2020, 06:27:41 AM
https://twitter.com/imvontee/status/1267239386896359424
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 01, 2020, 06:32:02 AM
Not to mythologize the presidents of the past but it really feels like at least the most modern ones wouldn't have fucked it like this? Feeling the lack of respect and leadership acutely rn. I remember Zeitlin posted about Nixon talking to Kent State protestors irl, can anyone see Trump doing something like that lol

He's very bad at his job! Even Dubya visited a mosque (https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010917-11.html) within a week of 9/11.

Trump is just as bad at the symbolic, comforter-in-chief, "nation's dad" shit as he is at the detail-oriented policy stuff. Just comically inept.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 01, 2020, 06:36:33 AM
Trump bumbling round Minneapolis and then holding an insane self centred press conference would probably make things worse :trumps
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 01, 2020, 06:38:23 AM
They'd most likely throw a Molotov cocktail at him the way that shit is going atm
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 01, 2020, 07:22:53 AM
Honestly, if you had a chance to interview a guy who packed his BOW AND ARROW to defend a police station you'd do it too  :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 01, 2020, 07:40:26 AM
https://twitter.com/ranakba/status/1267261034408132614 (https://twitter.com/ranakba/status/1267261034408132614)

The Chad FBI agent vs. the Virgin Local Cops  :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 01, 2020, 07:49:07 AM
https://twitter.com/VApoliticalmeme/status/1267320069442408451

The Chad FBI agent vs. the Virgin Local Cops  :lol

Already posted.  Old and he wasn't an FBI agent.   :'(

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 01, 2020, 07:50:43 AM
https://twitter.com/VApoliticalmeme/status/1267320069442408451

The Chad FBI agent vs. the Virgin Local Cops  :lol

Already posted.  Old and he wasn't an FBI agent.   :'(
He should be  :leon
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EchoRin on June 01, 2020, 07:54:05 AM
Yeah gotta be careful with spreading tweets. Plenty of people were saying Lincoln Park Zoo is being looted when it wasn't. Random pic of giraffe in the street from another year posted. Meanwhile a hippo picture from somewhere in South Africa. Yeah none of the from Chicago last night. We have enough real problems to deal with without idiots spreading misinformation.

Now my friend living by a Pet Smart noted the windows were fucked to shit. So hey maybe there will be a boa constrictor visiting you today, but...
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 01, 2020, 08:02:24 AM
Yeah the levels of misinformation going around is crazy, people are even saying protesters managed to break into the white house...
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: who is ted danson? on June 01, 2020, 08:04:16 AM
Where did they go? Order 66?

https://twitter.com/elavocodosatlaw/status/1267420897549471750

https://twitter.com/MrSlimPickens/status/1267409148003540993
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 01, 2020, 08:13:38 AM
https://twitter.com/_popaboywillie/status/1267257954048278529
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 01, 2020, 08:29:41 AM
https://twitter.com/tariqnasheed/status/1266926049482493953

How you gonna casually interview this man?

Well that is top quality content, so I understand. But they might also just not have seen the other video yet tbh, that interview came very quickly after the other videos started floating around.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 01, 2020, 08:43:37 AM
I think he's not above being like every other politician and following the advice of his handlers.

 :era ::) Because he's done that, so far? :trumps No, he won't do that sweetie.

(Bork, stop hiding the emoticons. :cenk I know like 80% of them are terrible because you chose them, but trying to remember some of the old ones like ":violin "'s code off the top of my head... :era )
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 01, 2020, 08:51:38 AM
https://twitter.com/ACABNATlON/status/1266820279176531968

https://twitter.com/PvtCinnamonbun/status/1267223779786309633
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 01, 2020, 09:04:24 AM
I think he's not above being like every other politician and following the advice of his handlers.

 :era ::) Because he's done that, so far? :trumps No, he won't do that sweetie.

(Bork, stop hiding the emoticons. :cenk I know like 80% of them are terrible because you chose them, but trying to remember some of the old ones like ":violin "'s code off the top of my head... :era )

Hey, don't blame me.  I didn't hide them.  And since you think they're terrible, I'm not going to help you unhide them, either.
:trumps
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 01, 2020, 09:06:57 AM
https://twitter.com/ACABNATlON/status/1266820279176531968

https://twitter.com/PvtCinnamonbun/status/1267223779786309633

a lot of people eating onions in those comments
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 01, 2020, 09:08:37 AM
I think he's not above being like every other politician and following the advice of his handlers.

 :era ::) Because he's done that, so far? :trumps No, he won't do that sweetie.

(Bork, stop hiding the emoticons. :cenk I know like 80% of them are terrible because you chose them, but trying to remember some of the old ones like ":violin "'s code off the top of my head... :era )

Hey, don't blame me.  I didn't hide them.  And since you think they're terrible, I'm not going to help you unhide them, either.
:trumps

40% of borks abuse their emotes and all that.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 01, 2020, 09:10:47 AM
I think he's not above being like every other politician and following the advice of his handlers.

 :era ::) Because he's done that, so far? :trumps No, he won't do that sweetie.

(Bork, stop hiding the emoticons. :cenk I know like 80% of them are terrible because you chose them, but trying to remember some of the old ones like ":violin "'s code off the top of my head... :era )

Hey, don't blame me.  I didn't hide them.  And since you think they're terrible, I'm not going to help you unhide them, either.
:trumps

40% of borks abuse their emotes and all that.

"These are a great set of emotes.  We've done an amazing job of creating them; absolutely tremendous.  Nobody has ever had better emotes than we have."
\
:trumps

"Didn't you steal some of them from the Coli?"
\
:nugenix

"Absolutely not; these have always been our emotes.  I created them.  Did a tremendous job on them.  Absolutely fantastic.  I think we're done here, folks."
\
:trumps
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 01, 2020, 09:16:54 AM
Nintex is secretly a bork psy-op to infiltrate the bire and shitpost Trump into the emote list majority. #WakeUpSheeple #ColiEmotesMatter
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 09:22:10 AM
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/one-dead-louisville-after-police-national-guard-return-fire-protesters-n1220831
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 01, 2020, 09:23:15 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/XP7iGhu.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 01, 2020, 10:05:46 AM
https://twitter.com/ChipCheezum/status/1267192477292941316
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 01, 2020, 10:10:27 AM
David why. Holy fuck....

:dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 01, 2020, 10:11:02 AM
https://twitter.com/spy_historian/status/1267433105490665472
:goldberg
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I'm Peter Imanuelsen. Swedish journalist. Political commentator. I despise Nazis and Communists. Editor-in-chief at http://timesofsweden.com
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 01, 2020, 10:14:27 AM
https://twitter.com/alexmimeur/status/1267266930391515136?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 01, 2020, 10:20:40 AM
https://twitter.com/alexmimeur/status/1267266930391515136?

The live comments as this is happening  :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 01, 2020, 10:40:02 AM
It sorta reminds me of the economic crisis we had.

"Oh, that's not going to happen really. That's not possible, you'd need to have all these circumstances that have never occurred ever. Not in a billion years haha!"

"SO yeah, that thing we said that wouldn't happen in a billion years... yeah it did. And then the other thing that totally would never happen also. Basically everything is fucked now but no one could've known"
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 11:32:39 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis/comments/gubpr3/mpd_with_another_drive_by_pepper_spraying/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 01, 2020, 11:39:54 AM
https://twitter.com/elijahdaniel/status/1267473542699859969
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 01, 2020, 11:52:43 AM
https://twitter.com/elijahdaniel/status/1267473542699859969

:bow the gays are at it again :bow2
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 01, 2020, 11:58:03 AM
 :supergay
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: tiesto on June 01, 2020, 12:12:07 PM
Trumpy will double down and go full “I shat myself on purpose” mode. The racist demographic is his only chance of reelection, and conceding would make him lose most of his support methinks.

it's important to remember they're easily susceptible to conspiracy theories that rationalize what they want to see, they'd be disappointed but would say "they forced him to say that to get them to stop burning down our cities"

I already see them saying this is yet another deep state plot to get him out of the WH after the Coronavirus plot and impeachment failed  ::)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 01, 2020, 12:26:59 PM
Trump needs to be careful. If he speaks as if the police are an extension of himself, then that's another layer of baggage the police do not need right now. Just lay back and let the governors and mayors handle it. Provide financial assistance where needed.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 01, 2020, 12:27:26 PM
https://twitter.com/elijahdaniel/status/1267473542699859969

lmao, he deleted it.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 01, 2020, 12:38:40 PM
https://twitter.com/Action_JRD/status/1267189544857636864

good luck with that
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 12:40:52 PM
:rofl
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 01, 2020, 12:41:18 PM
https://twitter.com/babybomboclaat/status/1267181633389514752

Cringe
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 12:44:15 PM
why is that cringe?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 01, 2020, 12:44:21 PM
https://twitter.com/costareports/status/1267488576058675204 

https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/1267491105727295490

 :whoo
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 01, 2020, 12:46:33 PM
there are of course no antifa leaders, but there likely are many many people that could still end up getting charged and spending decades in prison with this move. the protests have been sporadic so far but who will step up and keep the protests going if it could result in a terrorism charge?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 01, 2020, 12:47:05 PM
it is indeed fucking terrifying

we live in hell
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 12:49:07 PM
they should arrest ANYONE associated with Emmanuel Goldstein
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 01, 2020, 12:50:39 PM
antifa leaders :dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 12:54:02 PM
there are of course no antifa leaders, but there likely are many many people that could still end up getting charged and spending decades in prison with this move.
My worst fear at the moment is that they try retroactively applying these charges to people arrested this past week.
Quote
the protests have been sporadic so far but who will step up and keep the protests going if it could result in a terrorism charge?
There's no way you're going to be able to charge nonviolent protestors with terrorism charges if all they were doing was violating curfew, it would never hold up in court. The protests can continue.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 01, 2020, 12:55:41 PM
Trump going after the guy named anonymous next.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: tiesto on June 01, 2020, 12:56:20 PM
antifa leaders :dead

Bu, bu, bu, SOROS!!! He's pulling the strings!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 01, 2020, 12:57:50 PM
aren't there people with more managerial/organizational positions in antifa circles?

there's no face you can put on it but I guarantee you there are people doing more work than others

and I had read that the feds have been keeping tabs on them as a possible domestic threat so they probably already have lists of people to arrest
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 01:10:07 PM
aren't there people with more managerial/organizational positions in antifa circles?
No. :lol

It's "spontaneous order" + an idea which is independently discoverable by any person.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 01, 2020, 01:15:30 PM
https://twitter.com/heem_6k/status/1267241077557387268

 :dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 01, 2020, 01:18:01 PM
aren't there people with more managerial/organizational positions in antifa circles?
No. :lol

It's "spontaneous order" + an idea which is independently discoverable by any person.

someone runs the twitter accounts
https://twitter.com/nycantifa

yesterday I saw an antifa image macro recommending what to wear and take, use a burner phone, delete facebook, don't brag, etc., somebody is making those

I swear I once read an article where someone infiltrated a local group where they planned an event in hushed tones and was handed a weapon (it was cringe)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thetylerrob on June 01, 2020, 01:20:34 PM
If they pretend Antifa is an organization they can blame shit on them. Antifa irl are just leftover crack fans.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 01, 2020, 01:25:14 PM



I haven't really been pissed off by anything from these protests but this one did it to me. Dude was just trying to open a dialogue, cross the lines a little bit and just be cool and they did him dirty. I can understand violence, teargas, rubber bullets and scattering crowds but this type of shit is upsetting.

:mjcry

If I learned anything from football riots, it’s if the cops stand in a line like hat, you don’t come near them unless you’re ready to fight. They don’t care about press badges or if you’re a woman or elderly.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 01, 2020, 01:28:26 PM
aren't there people with more managerial/organizational positions in antifa circles?
No. :lol

It's "spontaneous order" + an idea which is independently discoverable by any person.

There certainly is a certain level of organization at least in Yuropean Antifa movements, as in there are certain organizations that band together under the antifa banner.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 01, 2020, 01:32:19 PM
https://twitter.com/costareports/status/1267488576058675204 

https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/1267491105727295490

 :whoo

Before the last few days I was worried that Trump still had some kind of chance at getting a second term as people were out protesting his half assed pandemic nonresponse was too much, but I don't know how anyone sane can be thinking he's who you want steering the ship no matter how buried you are in partisanship


https://twitter.com/heem_6k/status/1267241077557387268

 :dead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1dPKfxRhk0
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 01, 2020, 01:40:05 PM
Man, I just wish etoilet was here and could share his nuanced take on current events by posting pictures of dead children to remind us that Stalin is the real racist and socialism is to blame

(...and that filler could mindlessly mash "like" on them)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 01:43:57 PM
Man, I just wish etoilet was here and could share his nuanced take on current events by posting pictures of dead children to remind us that Stalin is the real racist and socialism is to blame

(...and that filler could mindlessly mash "like" on them)

this has no context but you don't really need it

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I've been predicting this entire riot/covid fiasco.

And it's terribly depressing to be able to predict it. It's terribly isolating.

What you don't understand is that ideology has pre-held beliefs and when those beliefs prove false you enter into a nowhere zone of uncertainty. Watching those around me wrestle with that null-zone and unable to comprehend that their assumptions were wrong is unbelievably depressing and isolating. I have no peers. I can't relate to others.

You simply have no idea of the nature of the room you're entering. Get out.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 01, 2020, 01:45:37 PM
etiolate feeling lonely without his bore brehs :tocry
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 01:51:29 PM
I hope there is a Picard season 2 episode where the Rock makes a cameo and him and 7 of 9 wrestle the Null-Zone together.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 01:51:31 PM
There certainly is a certain level of organization at least in Yuropean Antifa movements, as in there are certain organizations that band together under the antifa banner.
It's the same way here but I just feel like the specific things which terrorist organization designation allows the government to do - freezing assets and spending, arresting people associated with the parent organization - just have little to no applicability to something as amorphous as the various black bloc peeps in Berkeley and Seattle. And those quasi organizations only exist because they're free to do so - once people start getting arrested, we'll just go back to the 70s situation where you have a bunch of independent terrorist cells which don't communicate. That would be crippling for a larger organization but has almost no effect on what is effectively a bunch of close friends/collaborators putting a mask on beating up fashies and throwing bricks through windows.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 01, 2020, 02:05:04 PM
Trump going after the guy named anonymous next.

(https://i.imgur.com/avhPs3n.gif)

spoiler (click to show/hide)
You'd think he'd know his meme magic base that AREN'T anonymous folks...
[close]
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 01, 2020, 02:06:28 PM
guess this happened yesterday and then twitter suspended the account

(https://i.imgur.com/kB38ilW.png)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 02:07:23 PM
Do you guys think the bore has been infiltrated yet
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 01, 2020, 02:09:12 PM
Do you guys think the bore has been infiltrated yet

:foodcourt
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 02:10:08 PM
Attention 'hhkcvaoitsso' today makes the end of my decade long operation.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 02:10:22 PM
Esch, your new avatar is triggering me hard. please cease and desist.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 01, 2020, 02:11:28 PM
But you're vegan... how good are those vegan burgers off the grill? :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 01, 2020, 02:12:06 PM
Esch, that white guy better not be the cook.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 01, 2020, 02:13:04 PM
I just had a barbecue today for a return to normalcy, dignity and respect.
:respect

My neighbor is Kurdish, so I definitely contributed to improving ethnic relations.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 02:19:38 PM
Every time I look at vegan food, I go, oh that looks good but then I remember all the past experiences with it and whenever I see someone defend it, they just say O well you don't know my vegan food.  It makes me think vegans are domestic abuse victims who haven't gotten out yet. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 01, 2020, 02:22:26 PM
That's not a burger, though, Esch. :bolo I want my 5-10 min skimming that back. :bolo
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 02:22:38 PM
You can't quit me.  You have no where else to go. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Akala on June 01, 2020, 02:23:36 PM
I think we should all settle on FLAMING JUNE
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 01, 2020, 02:24:16 PM
That's not a burger, though, Esch. :bolo I want my 5-10 min skimming that back. :bolo

"Mushroom steak... There was never a mention of a burger.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 02:25:43 PM
I think we should all settle on FLAMING JUNE

I like that, it recognizes the apocalypse while also giving a nod to the 50th anniversary of pride.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 01, 2020, 02:26:26 PM
Every time I look at vegan food, I go, oh that looks good but then I remember all the past experiences with it and whenever I see someone defend it, they just say O well you don't know my vegan food.  It makes me think vegans are domestic abuse victims who haven't gotten out yet.

this happens to me with linux
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 02:28:47 PM
so when do protestors start "experiencing explosions"? :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on June 01, 2020, 02:28:49 PM
"not enough domination" That's something a man that's never been a leader would say, it's something a man that's never had to fight for power would say.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 01, 2020, 02:34:34 PM
Do you guys think the bore has been infiltrated yet

Always has been *points gun at Shonda*
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 01, 2020, 02:40:29 PM
Trump going after the guy named anonymous next.

(https://i.imgur.com/avhPs3n.gif)

spoiler (click to show/hide)
You'd think he'd know his meme magic base that AREN'T anonymous folks...
[close]

Never saw this before, holy shit! :rofl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivCo9UN_9jo

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 01, 2020, 02:44:15 PM
That's not a burger, though, Esch. :bolo I want my 5-10 min skimming that back. :bolo

I make these sometimes with different variations (https://minimalistbaker.com/easy-grillable-veggie-burgers/). Like i change the spicing or ingredients up. Going italian style with tons of fennel, herbs and red chili flake

:mouf


:money

Ok, that does look good.

Every time I look at vegan food, I go, oh that looks good but then I remember all the past experiences with it and whenever I see someone defend it, they just say O well you don't know my vegan food.  It makes me think vegans are domestic abuse victims who haven't gotten out yet.

this happens to me with linux

:larry
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 02:52:49 PM
Someone who actually just wanted to grill :tocry
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 01, 2020, 02:55:48 PM
https://twitter.com/pashleywave3/status/1267492512517828613

https://twitter.com/micahflee/status/1267523345681018880

How is shit like this CONTINUING to happen?   :-\ :maf
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 02:55:53 PM
god damn this nation
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 01, 2020, 02:57:00 PM
Reading news stories usually doesn't elicit an emotional response from me, but this made me furious.

Burn the police department to the ground.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 02:58:28 PM
I thought we were on the tail end of these riots but we're in the shit now
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 01, 2020, 03:00:21 PM
https://twitter.com/pashleywave3/status/1267492512517828613

https://twitter.com/micahflee/status/1267523345681018880

How is shit like this CONTINUING to happen?   :-\ :maf

Cops don't give a fuck, man.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 01, 2020, 03:01:14 PM
Bold move killing an unarmed black man, at a protest about killing an unarmed black man. This is gonna spiral out of control I can just see it.

Bad cops man, fucking sucks.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 01, 2020, 03:01:49 PM
https://twitter.com/EdgeofSports/status/1267506489654214656

POP :rejoice
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 03:01:53 PM
https://twitter.com/yolotilidie/status/1267300734539755521
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Coffee Dog on June 01, 2020, 03:02:13 PM
The cops don't care about stopping riots or they wouldn't do this.   :-\
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 01, 2020, 03:02:15 PM
fack da police

:piss :cop :piss2
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 01, 2020, 03:03:19 PM
there's plenty of videos out of cops smashing windows or going through parking lots and slashing everyone's tires, multiple incidents of them attacking visibly pregnant black women including hitting a woman in the stomach and opening fire(with rubber bullets) on a car after a man clearly says his wife is in there pregnant, countless videos of people being knocked over as they were doing nothing, and now this man was murdered. the cops aren't doing shit right now except trying to hurt people.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 03:04:11 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/01/bob-kroll-george-floyd-minneapolis-police-union-chief

Quote
“What is not being told is the violent criminal history of George Floyd. The media will not air this. I’ve worked with the four defense attorneys that are representing each of our four terminated individuals under criminal investigation, in addition with our labor attorneys to fight for their jobs. They were terminated without due process,” wrote Kroll, according to a copy of the letter obtained by the Star Tribune.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 01, 2020, 03:04:13 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZW6KchVAAEiDax?format=jpg&name=medium)

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 01, 2020, 03:04:55 PM
Also a lot of the "feel good cop videos" you see later on they then tear gas them and generally turn into pricks again once the media go away.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 01, 2020, 03:08:36 PM
Amerikkka needs some real leadership

:maduro
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 01, 2020, 03:09:20 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/copaganda/

It'll happen once this makes it's way around soon.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 03:10:51 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ShGfc6U.png)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: tiesto on June 01, 2020, 03:14:09 PM
I think we should all settle on FLAMING JUNE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CV6I6dAPB4
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 01, 2020, 03:26:50 PM
Probably much funnier than Trash human too.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 01, 2020, 03:30:24 PM
Get yourself arrested or beaten = GoFundMe.

What could go wrong?

Dying.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 01, 2020, 03:41:00 PM
Crisis actors, I don’t see any truckers.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: tiesto on June 01, 2020, 03:41:48 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZclP8UVAAARiQO?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 03:42:19 PM
I wish colonial uprisings were in English or at least subtitled. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 01, 2020, 03:58:04 PM
if you shoot them in the leg instead of dead then his good pals in the health care system get even richer :success

:biden
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 01, 2020, 03:58:36 PM
Shoot them in the leg :biden

While German riot police is scum and has been getting away with instigating shit for ever, mainly during football matches and demonstrations, I consider myself lucky and privileged that the use of potentially lethal force is incredibly restricted and is only used as an ultima ratio. I can't imagine the tension if a cop had his hand on his gun the entire time during a routine traffic stop.

One thing I also noticed is that American cops will try to handcuff you no matter how cooperative you are being, this shit is insane and unnecessarily heightens the tension of a situation.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 04:03:32 PM
With better training, they should aim for the meat and not the major blood vessels. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 01, 2020, 04:04:22 PM
With better training, they should aim for the meat and not the major blood vessels.

shoot them with a water pistol :rollsafe
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 01, 2020, 04:05:07 PM
they should aim for the meat

Getting shot in the dick sounds unpleasant.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 01, 2020, 04:09:27 PM
they should aim for the meat

Getting shot in the dick sounds unpleasant.

(https://i.imgur.com/jJxDwwl.gif)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 04:13:10 PM
they should aim for the meat

Getting shot in the dick sounds unpleasant.

Well, the choices are getting shot in the heart with Trump or getting shot in the dick with Biden.  Americans are free to choose at this point. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on June 01, 2020, 04:22:45 PM
they should aim for the meat

Getting shot in the dick sounds unpleasant.

Well, the choices are getting shot in the heart with Trump or getting shot in the dick with Biden.  Americans are free to choose at this point.
If you don't want to be shot in the dick, you ain't black.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 04:26:24 PM
https://twitter.com/SpectrumNews1KY/status/1267549136301277184
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 04:29:24 PM
https://twitter.com/RealDYates/status/1267522504589000706
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 01, 2020, 04:30:01 PM
Have never seen such wide qpproval of black rioting ever in my life. And this is Daily Show whose main audience are moderate libs

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10158888002416800&id=7976226799
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 01, 2020, 04:31:55 PM
https://twitter.com/fionerss/status/1266863891608489984
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 01, 2020, 04:35:42 PM
Have never seen such wide qpproval of black rioting ever in my life. And this is Daily Show whose main audience are moderate libs

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10158888002416800&id=7976226799

Yeah, vs the 100s of other celebrities that just don't get it.

I've always liked Trevor Noah.

I'm not even talking about Trevor (although there's that too). I'm talking about the vast majority of the comments AGRREING with him. Many of them even white! I feel there's a massive sea change on the way and we have momentum.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on June 01, 2020, 04:40:02 PM
Just had to notify my employees to stay in tonight because we're expecting civil unrest and higher ER admissions.

Remember when COVID, and Austrailia buring down and WW3 and murder hornets were all we had to worry about?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: brawndolicious on June 01, 2020, 04:41:12 PM
San Jose instituted a curfew for the next week like a lot of California cities. I live near a hospital that is the only level 1 trauma center in the area so I'm used to hearing sirens at night but it was constant last night as well as the sound of a helicopter overhead.

Obviously, the issues with police culture towards minorities has been around forever but I think the paralysis/apathy of the government in dealing with the pandemic and economic situation is what's making everything boil over. I'll say that not all police departments or state/local governments are equally bad but the point is that once public trust is extinguished, you can't move past it. That's the good news.

Also, does anyone feel like this is sort of like the Occupy protests ten years ago but better organized and taken more seriously? The only reason I can imagine is that because of Trump, there's a clearer enemy.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 01, 2020, 04:43:29 PM
One Country, Two Systems

https://twitter.com/NaderDIssa/status/1267308400574107648

Sounds like the same punitive action like LA closing COVID testing sites because the mayor was mad at the protestors.

depends on how the majority of the meals had been distributed, if kids were walking over to pick them up you definitely don't want kids on the street right now
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 01, 2020, 04:53:44 PM
https://twitter.com/cyberwitchlexi/status/1267483602197102592

You mean, this Hilary Clinton?

https://newrepublic.com/article/129433/clintons-war-drugs-black-lives-didnt-matter (https://newrepublic.com/article/129433/clintons-war-drugs-black-lives-didnt-matter)

Pssst...

spoiler (click to show/hide)
That's Toliet4U's point. :doge
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Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 05:03:58 PM
This would be a good time to let Kaepernick back into the NFL.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Trent Dole on June 01, 2020, 05:05:27 PM
oh cmon man how can you miss an open goal like this :stahp

https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/status/1267508511317123073
They're shooting people in the eye you utterly worthless fucking ghoul.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 01, 2020, 05:08:37 PM
This would be a good time to let Kaepernick back into the NFL.

NFL have been talking about that last few days, but it also is such weak shit to do now. He never should have been blacklisted in the first place,

now he's rusty as hell too, because too much time has passed since he got any real game time.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 01, 2020, 05:10:03 PM
#BLM protest in Amsterdam in support of George Floyd.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZcUW4KWoAYHTN_?format=jpg)

Mixed feelings about this protest here. Part of country is happy to send this signal, the other part of the country is angry because it clearly breaks every COVID-19 regulation that we all have to live by.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 01, 2020, 05:10:56 PM
Zwarte lives matter.  :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 05:18:27 PM
I guess, in a way, Trump was right when he said that these riots are an international embarrassment of the US
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 01, 2020, 05:20:52 PM
Pig I went to school with posted this:

(https://i.imgur.com/xC2pviU.jpg)

Any non-MAGA information on this?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 01, 2020, 05:23:29 PM
https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1267556566594719744 (https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1267556566594719744)

What's up with these old ass very dangerous laws.
Presidents should clean up their laws when they leave office lol

"Well guys, we have some GOOD news and we have some BAD news"
"The GOOD news is, we're leaving this shithole after nearly 20 years of fighting"
"The BAD news is we're shipping out immediately to New York, Michigan and other places"

"Excuse me sir, I live in Texas"

"Well son, that's the BAD news. We've been reassigned to fight and kill communist terrorists on US soil that have infiltrated over 50 cities"
"I'm well aware most of you have PTSD, a bad heroin addiction, depression and other mental issues so this mission like our mission in Afghanistan will be a great success"

"Sir... I'd rather not fight in the US"

"Well in that case you can join up with Sergeant Bradley and patrol Syrian oil fields with the Russians"
"Look son, I ain't gonna lie to you this mission ain't gonna be easy. Everyone wears a mask, so lord knows what you're shooting at"
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 01, 2020, 05:28:03 PM
https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1267556566594719744 (https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1267556566594719744)

What's up with these old ass very dangerous laws.
Presidents should clean up their laws when they leave office lol

...Yeah, good luck with that. I think a lot of military folks would balk.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 05:37:50 PM
So, I don't understand how McAtee died. Every article I read paints a different picture. Was he in the lot too or what he in his shop and got hit by a stray bullet? Not that it makes a difference, just want to be clear on what happened.

It's kind of like we would know if they had their body cams turned on.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 05:38:10 PM
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/independent-autopsy-george-floyd-findings-announced/story?id=70994827&__twitter_impression=true
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 01, 2020, 05:39:14 PM
https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1267556566594719744 (https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1267556566594719744)


Quote
Governors often prefer the National Guard forces in these cases because they can legally perform law enforcement duties in the U.S., whereas troops on active duty cannot or they violate the Posse Comitatus Act, a 1878 law that prohibits the government from using military forces to act as a police force within U.S. borders.

Does that not actively contradict the existence of the Insurrection Act?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 05:44:13 PM
Apparently Obama wrote a medium post... going to check it out in a bit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 01, 2020, 05:44:20 PM
(https://orig06.deviantart.net/4172/f/2017/084/f/d/boogie2988_middle_by_digi_matrix-db3h3ud.gif)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 01, 2020, 05:48:54 PM
Apparently Obama wrote a medium post... going to check it out in a bit

Hillary deleted her post by mistake :ohyou :rodney
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 05:50:04 PM
Hilarious how much these dudes get paid for platitudes

https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/1267561036531429376

https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/1267562892024442882

Nothing anyone has said on any of this is anything but a platitude at this point. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 01, 2020, 05:55:27 PM
https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/1267562892024442882
it really hit me yesterday after the portland protest fizzled out that all of these liberal would-be leaders have no idea what political power is, how to get it, or how to enforce demands. the only thing the demonstrations have affected, and will affect in their current form, is public opinion (for the better, and that’s good! but only to a point). the grievances we’ve voiced itt over a lack of organization still hold good, but there’s also a lack of awareness, or maybe an unwillingness to admit, that politics is about coercion
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 01, 2020, 06:01:04 PM
Florida Police Man: "You all have guns, why not use them?"
https://twitter.com/FOX13News/status/1267539936401592320 (https://twitter.com/FOX13News/status/1267539936401592320)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 01, 2020, 06:01:18 PM
it really hit me yesterday after the portland protest fizzled out that all of these liberal would-be leaders have no idea what political power is, how to get it, or how to enforce demands. the only thing the demonstrations have affected, and will affect in their current form, is public opinion (for the better, and that’s good! but only to a point). the grievances we’ve voiced itt over a lack of organization still hold good, but there’s also a lack of awareness, or maybe an unwillingness to admit, that politics is about coercion

elaborate
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 01, 2020, 06:06:01 PM
https://twitter.com/IdeaFactoryIntl/status/1267533296566583302

:uguu
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 06:06:19 PM

Nothing anyone has said on any of this is anything but a platitude at this point.

I don't mind if you say them. I just wish I was paid a lot more to say absolutely nothing of value. :wow

:lol I literally had the sentence 'We should strive to have a society where we all are highly paid for our platitudes' but deleted it cause it didn't jive with the first sentence.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 01, 2020, 06:13:33 PM
I've been watching some minneapolis streams by this guy Max Chillin, it hasn't been one of the bigger or better streams or anything, but he lives up to his name

I know this is what streaming's about anyway but feeling like you're there with him for the ride

he was pretty demoralized at the end of his stream 2 days ago, seeing the unity cracking as protesters started to fight each other, and he did another short stream yesterday out surveying the damage in the morning (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At6r01rdb_k)

talked about in the stream that his roommate where he had been living discovered that he was streaming, and kicked him out of the house immediately (citing covid worry), forcing him to stop the stream to pack his entire life into his car

at the end of the stream revealed that his mom had been murdered 11 months ago
 :fbm

there is no point to this post.  he didn't offer a donation link or anything, he's just some guy out there
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 06:13:56 PM
But in seriousness, I have not seen a single actionable plan about how to achieve police reform, except for maybe reinstating Obama's demilitarization stuff.  It's crazy how everyone in the media can simultaneously agree that racism is bad and structural but don't engage with the question of how to change that.   And in an election year, you think that would be the first thing that happens.  Shame the Dem primaries finished when they did. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 06:20:55 PM
elaborate
(https://media.giphy.com/media/srTYyZ1BjBtGU/200.gif)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 01, 2020, 06:21:09 PM
Trump is making a statement apparently within the hour, and it's from the lawn and not the oval office so expect him to get wild

it would be doubly fucked if he invoked martial law because in many places the protests are starting fizzle out as they do, people only have so much stamina

some cities are just gearing up but they too will have their crest and fall, it's going to burn itself out without need for too much intervention...unless he pours gas on it
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 01, 2020, 06:23:52 PM
Barr is already in place in front of the protesters

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZdbcyGUEAAbSKp?format=jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 01, 2020, 06:25:30 PM
Trump is making a statement apparently within the hour, and it's from the lawn and not the oval office so expect him to get wild

Haha WHAT
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 06:27:56 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/WFPLNews/status/1267560783422074882

:lol dude was retiring in a month and gets to keep his pension. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: toku on June 01, 2020, 06:28:30 PM
only filler click this link (https://www.instagram.com/p/CA5wp2cgW-y/?igshid=16vwfzgmvrpmc)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 01, 2020, 06:28:34 PM
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1267582932186783747 (https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1267582932186783747)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZdcbKDXgAEtv4u?format=jpg)

 :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 06:30:27 PM
I have a suspicion that Andy Beshear is one of those governors that a lot of cops would love to make disappear so it doesn't matter what he says or tries to do, it's a functionally rogue institution.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 01, 2020, 06:36:30 PM
https://twitter.com/PaulaReidCBS/status/1267585430179983360 (https://twitter.com/PaulaReidCBS/status/1267585430179983360)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on June 01, 2020, 06:36:43 PM
it really hit me yesterday after the portland protest fizzled out that all of these liberal would-be leaders have no idea what political power is, how to get it, or how to enforce demands. the only thing the demonstrations have affected, and will affect in their current form, is public opinion (for the better, and that’s good! but only to a point). the grievances we’ve voiced itt over a lack of organization still hold good, but there’s also a lack of awareness, or maybe an unwillingness to admit, that politics is about coercion

elaborate

:horsefucker
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 01, 2020, 06:37:02 PM
https://twitter.com/dwuhlfelderlaw/status/1267207997106917380

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 01, 2020, 06:40:39 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZdfK1gVcAAkMP2?format=jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 01, 2020, 06:45:09 PM
Call them pigs and beat them. But please do not fat shame.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 01, 2020, 06:47:12 PM
Barr told Trump to bring down the hammer.

Now the police shot tear gas into the crowds in front at the White House as Trump is giving his law and order speech.

Absolute chaos.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 01, 2020, 06:48:16 PM
Trump's speech is horrific.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 01, 2020, 06:51:40 PM
that speech hahahahahahhahaha  :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 06:51:47 PM
https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/lawsuit-cops-stomped-pregnant-black-womans-stomach-causing-miscarriage/L6GVQZSZHNBQ7LZHPF26ABW52U/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 01, 2020, 06:51:52 PM
elaborate
protestors outnumbered the police ~10:1 last night in downtown portland. after a couple hours of the most peaceful demonstration as you could reasonably expect, police announced that the protest had become unlawful because someone had lobbed a projectile at them. a handful of people from the crowd, who i can only assume were organizers, started addressing the crowd, assuring them that select leaders of the demonstration were in ‘negotiations’ with the police and that the protest would continue if they moved off of the streets into a nearby park. they did, then the police kettled them, dispersing the 9/10 of the crowd who were there just to demonstrate, and the rest of the night was a cat and mouse game between the police, who had deliberately escalated the situation, and the remaining part of the crowd who were down to buck. the protest organizers meanwhile got a photo-op with the police chief (or whoever) for their social media, while hewing to the police party line that the protest had been ruined by a handful of bad apples in the crowd. no mention of the behavior of the portland police department, no mention of the demands that had animated the protest, most notably, demilitarization of law enforcement -presumably something that would have been ‘negotiated’.

they willingly gave up the only kind of leverage they had -their numbers- in the hopes that good faith dialogue would get the police to take off their riot gear. how are you gonna negotiate if you don’t have any leverage? they arent occupying key spaces of the city, they arent shutting anything down. they largely cant because covid already did. their only plan of action is documenting getting rocked in the face by a gas canister and hoping that enough voting people will see that and think it’s fucked up.

maybe it’s because a lot of these protestors are kids and are naive about what the police want and how they operate, and about how peaceful a group of 10000 pissed off people can reasonably be, idk. whatever it is, it plays into getting rhetorically outflanked by the people you’re protesting. and then pundits like klein can spectacularly misread the room by thinking that the axis and the allies are actually the same people because they’re both at war and ‘feed off each other’.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 01, 2020, 06:51:56 PM
This did not make me feel better at all.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 01, 2020, 06:53:25 PM
Who was saying Trump would bend? Nah Trump is horrible.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 01, 2020, 06:53:41 PM
When the curfew we pew pew
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 01, 2020, 06:53:58 PM
I have never thought the dark thoughts towards another person the way I do the president
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 01, 2020, 06:57:28 PM
https://twitter.com/alexi/status/1267589514027032589 (https://twitter.com/alexi/status/1267589514027032589)

 :dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 01, 2020, 06:58:24 PM
Jesus fucking Christ

This country is over
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 01, 2020, 06:59:15 PM
Trump was trying to thread the needle earlier because his base is lunatic racists but he has actual delusions of winning over some black voters, hence "these riots are dishonoring the memory of George Floyd" or whatever. "Actually the blacks like me" has been part of his schtick the last four years.

When shit got bumpy he was always going to revert back to this.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 07:00:36 PM
Like this post if you'd like me to write to my representatives to send you guys Peace Keepers. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 07:02:34 PM
https://twitter.com/benyc/status/1267587033783992322
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 07:03:06 PM
https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1267589085108908032
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on June 01, 2020, 07:04:19 PM
Trump was trying to thread the needle earlier because his base is lunatic racists but he has actual delusions of winning over some black voters, hence "these riots are dishonoring the memory of George Floyd" or whatever. "Actually the blacks like me" has been part of his schtick the last four years.

When shit got bumpy he was always going to revert back to this.

I got the feeling he truly believes he is not a racist piece of shit. His cognitive disassociations are something to behold.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 01, 2020, 07:05:12 PM
https://twitter.com/GOP/status/1267591908425072640 (https://twitter.com/GOP/status/1267591908425072640)

Seems like he still has the backing of the GOP after
*checks notes*
Declaring war on the United States
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 01, 2020, 07:05:44 PM
Trump really can't help himself. :lol

 It's not like he couild have said or done anything significant(at least not credibly), but to double down on faux strongman talk is just :neogaf
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 01, 2020, 07:07:13 PM
I have a suspicion that Andy Beshear is one of those governors that a lot of cops would love to make disappear so it doesn't matter what he says or tries to do, it's a functionally rogue institution.

Beshear was the former state AG before he became governor, is from a Kentucky political family and his politics skew moderate.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 07:07:42 PM
Seeing a lot of the liberal media act extremely confused about what's going on and I'm just sitting here laughing and thinking about something someone once told me years ago, which was that the people who can't see the country for what it is will be very surprised, and the people who can see it will be dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 07:08:05 PM
good news

https://kstp.com/news/george-floyd-manner-of-death-considered-homicide-medical-examiner-says-/5748019/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 01, 2020, 07:08:16 PM
https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1267592880077578241 (https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1267592880077578241)

Tear gassing a bunch of protesters so the leader can take a walk  :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on June 01, 2020, 07:09:21 PM
Trump really can't help himself. :lol

 It's not like he couild have said or done anything significant(at least not credibly), but to double down on faux strongman talk is just :neogaf

Is the only shtick he has. The guy is one trick pony that depends entirely of his enablers safe guarding him.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 07:10:38 PM
It's really like a third world country dictatorship.
fascism was invented in the first world though
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 01, 2020, 07:11:47 PM
Born too late to see the Roman Empire crumble, born too early to see the fall of capitalism, born just in time to see America's fash mask drop. :vr
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on June 01, 2020, 07:11:49 PM
It's really like a third world country dictatorship.
fascism was invented in the first world though

But this kind of incompetent fascism was perfected in the third world.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 07:12:28 PM
trump having unhinged police goons bash peaceful protesters and journalists so he can walk to a church and pretend he's religious is absolutely iconic, I'm probably never going to forget that
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 01, 2020, 07:16:19 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZdmmzmWAAE3lIh?format=jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZdn5-BWoAA2YzC?format=jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on June 01, 2020, 07:16:42 PM
More than being a Hitler wannabe, he looks more like a Evangelical version of Franco.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 01, 2020, 07:17:18 PM
ETA until Trump says the phrase: Deus lo vult ?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 01, 2020, 07:17:57 PM
https://twitter.com/bad_takes/status/1267594813710446593
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 01, 2020, 07:18:31 PM
Military police attacked peaceful protesters while the president threatened to unleash the military on American citizens all so he could get the area cleared to take a photo op with a bible in front of a church
i remember benji saying a couple years back how reagan was a ‘great’ president in that he understood how to manipulate the spectacle of the presidency (“tear down that wall“ in front of the cameras, and whatot). trump is like the sharknado version of that
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 07:19:05 PM
This is the guy that cheated on his pregnant wife with a pornstar taking a photo op with a bible? 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 07:19:15 PM
twitter.com/bad_takes/status/1267594813710446593

:dead

thank god for videojournalism because the "then as farce" iteration of fascism would have been completely unbelievable otherwise
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on June 01, 2020, 07:20:37 PM
https://twitter.com/bad_takes/status/1267594813710446593

 :lol :lol :lol :lol

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 01, 2020, 07:21:57 PM
time will tell if he actually takes any military action but it sounded to me like he was trying to take credit for what's already happening, telling governors to take advantage of the mobilized national guard, so when the riots end he can pretend like this speech is what did it
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 01, 2020, 07:22:05 PM
https://twitter.com/AndrewHClark/status/1267596951840841729 (https://twitter.com/AndrewHClark/status/1267596951840841729)

They wanted to show confidence  :dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 01, 2020, 07:24:20 PM
Why did this make me laugh so much

https://twitter.com/G12Edward/status/1267596573619470338
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 01, 2020, 07:26:24 PM
Well, you have to hand it to Trump.

After 4 nights of rioting and everyone thinking 'this can't get any crazier' the motherfucker dialed the crazy up to 11 within less than 30 minutes
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 01, 2020, 07:26:47 PM
White men discovering monotheism to prevent natives from being cannibals (2020, colorized)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Sideshow Raheem on June 01, 2020, 07:27:22 PM
Nike and video game companies have found their social conscience.

Note: The black lives that matter are not the underpaid workers in the sweatshops, the consumer base that was whipped into a killing frenzy, or the developers who are overworked and oftentimes laid off to preserve shareholders' profits.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 01, 2020, 07:28:51 PM
Always funny that there are parts of the culture war where Trump really mind-melds with his base (the racism, xenophobia, macho posturing) and other aspects that he obviously doesn't grok but knows they play well (guns & bibles).
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 01, 2020, 07:30:10 PM
https://twitter.com/LisPower1/status/1267597099274731526
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 07:30:31 PM
Where the fuck is Kara
He's probably out there instead of shitposting like us
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 01, 2020, 07:34:30 PM
everyone arguing over the efficacy of violent protest at their keyboards  :rejoice
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 07:35:27 PM
I have medical concerns, this is my frontline :ufup

Me too.  I'm Canadian.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 01, 2020, 07:39:24 PM
What tv show do you think Biden is watching in his basement right now?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 01, 2020, 07:41:08 PM
What tv show do you think Biden is watching in his basement right now?

Hopefully The Last Airbender, he probably missed out on it when it first aired.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 01, 2020, 07:45:53 PM
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1267602006279024640

"Do you bite your thumb at me, sir?"
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 07:50:18 PM
Surprised they didn't include some trophy protestors. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 07:56:01 PM
https://www.kut.org/post/watch-chief-manley-says-black-man-critical-condition-after-being-shot-less-lethal-round
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 07:57:04 PM
https://twitter.com/TomCottonAR/status/1267459561675468800
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 08:00:22 PM
Tom Cotton's always been that genocidal
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 01, 2020, 08:02:11 PM
https://twitter.com/IdeaFactoryIntl/status/1267533296566583302

:uguu

(https://i.imgur.com/xZuG74z.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 01, 2020, 08:06:41 PM
213372bu's tired of Third Way Clintonite horserace centrist idpol MSM neoliberalism and is ready to burn it all down until his posts get likes.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 08:08:14 PM
"No quarter"? Mass domestic murder 'dogwhistles' are the move now for GOP?
This is the part where a Bore poster quotes me with:

"As if they only just began doing that  :lol "

and gets 11 more likes than me  :maf

11 more than zero is still zero since numbers are just opinions. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 01, 2020, 08:09:04 PM
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1266758240018276352

:putin
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 01, 2020, 08:10:12 PM
"No quarter"? Mass domestic murder 'dogwhistles' are the move now for GOP?
This is the part where a Bore poster quotes me with:

"As if they only just began doing that  :lol "

and gets 11 more likes than me  :maf

Likes cannot be chased down, they have to be attracted
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 08:11:05 PM
https://twitter.com/TheStalwart/status/1267608993129693184

this is the tweet that made me realize everyone is insane
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Kestastrophe on June 01, 2020, 08:12:34 PM
that 2A reference though. my dude is a few months away from letting boogaloo groyper guys be the freikorps against people who use picrew avatars

I need to stop making cursed posts :titus

https://twitter.com/MattZeitlin/status/1267600479703482368

 :kobeyuck
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 01, 2020, 08:12:48 PM
"No quarter"? Mass domestic murder 'dogwhistles' are the move now for GOP?

As if they only just began doing that :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 08:16:49 PM
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/0c78e7926337a81a2f0910a3c8590028/tenor.gif?itemid=16647470)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZdxH3lWkAE5jcv?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 08:19:32 PM
no soup for you
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 01, 2020, 08:20:04 PM
Someone call in the National Guard to kettle the other forums thread.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 01, 2020, 08:20:43 PM
"No quarter"? Mass domestic murder 'dogwhistles' are the move now for GOP?

As if they only just began doing that.  :lol

Edit: GODDAMN IT, JOE.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 01, 2020, 08:22:49 PM
Was warned about being outflanked by Tom Cotton, didn't realize it would be with an actual cavalry unit.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 08:22:55 PM
https://twitter.com/CBPMarkMorgan/status/1267571804056489984

ice bae bout to crack some skulls
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 01, 2020, 08:25:32 PM
https://twitter.com/meridithmcgraw/status/1267612225189093376 (https://twitter.com/meridithmcgraw/status/1267612225189093376)

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1267612228599103489 (https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1267612228599103489)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 01, 2020, 08:31:35 PM
But in seriousness, I have not seen a single actionable plan about how to achieve police reform, except for maybe reinstating Obama's demilitarization stuff.  It's crazy how everyone in the media can simultaneously agree that racism is bad and structural but don't engage with the question of how to change that.   And in an election year, you think that would be the first thing that happens.  Shame the Dem primaries finished when they did.

The only thing that can fix it is pouring an absolute fucking ton of money into policing; training, graduate career programs, higher wages, more ancillary staff, structural changes. If you don't want to attract the kind of people that get off on exerting authority over people, you have to make it an attractive career for normal people.

But how is anyone going to put that into a manifesto without it looking like rewarding them for their bad behaviour?
Or justify pouring money into the police over things like urban regeneration, education or healthcare?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 08:32:20 PM
That's completely wrong.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 01, 2020, 08:34:48 PM
the left is pushing abolition, not reform
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 01, 2020, 08:42:11 PM
I think I saw that the NYPD officer who pushed the woman down and called her a bitch made ~$250k last year.

Jobs in security will always attract guys who are, let's say a bit too comfortable physically exerting authority over other people.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 01, 2020, 08:44:58 PM
The cops make a lot of money anyway, NYPD has a budget of 6 BILLION apparently. The issue isn't just who it attracts. What you really need is consequences for abuse of power in the position and actual punishment. As it stans cops are above the law, it's not about whether normal people join in or not.

Thats what structural change means.
If you don't have people concerned about improving community relations running things and you give them a bigger budget, they'll just spend it on new toys like cars and helicopters, not on things like recruiting people with backgrounds in sociology or behavioural psychology to come up with new operational methods.

e: Like, if you have people already doing the job a certain way ask for more money, they will spend it on things to make their jobs easier. What the money needs to be spent on is on doing the job better.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 08:45:02 PM
If you can designate Antifa a terrorist organization you can designate the NYPD as one.  Hope you guys get a lefty president that can abuse terror laws someday. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tasty on June 01, 2020, 08:45:15 PM
Where the fuck is Kara

Liking my Evangelion tweets. :heart
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 01, 2020, 08:45:26 PM
I think I saw that the NYPD officer who pushed the woman down and called her a bitch made ~$250k last year.

Jobs in security will always attract guys who are, let's say a bit too comfortable physically exerting authority over other people.

 :brain mandatory all petite female police force nationwide  :brain
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tasty on June 01, 2020, 08:46:51 PM
NYPD has a budget of 6 BILLION

(https://i.imgur.com/IBiZUxp.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: curly on June 01, 2020, 08:46:59 PM
https://twitter.com/bbcease/status/1267582823428501508

https://twitter.com/jwehrens/status/1267587942895230976
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 08:47:29 PM
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/minneapolis-police-rendered-44-people-unconscious-neck-restraints-five-years-n1220416
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 08:48:00 PM
NYPD has a budget of 6 BILLION

(https://i.imgur.com/IBiZUxp.jpg)

Economics is fake. 
Title: timu signal activate
Post by: Tasty on June 01, 2020, 08:55:48 PM
https://twitter.com/cyberwitchlexi/status/1267483602197102592

(https://i.imgur.com/N82tW1y.gif)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 08:56:21 PM
Thats what structural change means.
No. To be only slightly tautological... structural change must change the structure of policing. You can't just do the Biden plan and somehow take the racist bits out of the police department (because it's not possible), you need to fundamentally alter the de jure relationship that police have with the community. You need to disarm the police, mandate what percent of the budget can go into new equipment, you need to set up expedient community recall procedures, you need to abolish their unions, you need to repeal qualified immunity, you need to enforce the community residence requirement which is routinely violated, you need body camera laws in every state, you need drug decriminalizations, you need to get rid of ticket quotas and all the other harassment beats, you need to get rid of cash bail, etc. etc. etc. That is what's meant by STRUCTURAL change.

This is why I get so annoyed when mainstream politicians all pay lip service to ending "systemic racism" and then say absolutely nothing consequential. What is it about the SYSTEM - the abstract relationship between sovereign and citizen, all the moving parts and procedures that make up the institution of criminal justice - that is being changed which will make it less racist? These words we use are specific and their specific meanings matter greatly.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 08:56:51 PM
hoping for a Positive Touch like to make up for that time we got in a fight
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 09:12:03 PM
https://twitter.com/ajitxsingh/status/1267533879797149696

clearly what this man needs is more money
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 01, 2020, 09:17:10 PM
Thats what structural change means.
No. To be only slightly tautological... structural change must change the structure of policing. You can't just do the Biden plan and take the racist bits out (because it's not possible), you need to do fundamentally alter the de jure relationship that police have with the community. You need to disarm the police, mandate what percent of the budget can go into new equipment, you need to set up expedient community recall procedures, you need to abolish their unions, you need to repeal qualified immunity, you need to enforce the community residence requirement which is routinely violated, you need body camera laws in every state, you need drug decriminalizations, you need to get rid of ticket quotas and all the other harassment beats, you need to get rid of cash bail, etc. etc. etc. That is what's meant by STRUCTURAL change.

This is why I get so annoyed when mainstream politicians all pay lip service to ending "systemic racism" and then say absolutely nothing consequential. What is it about the SYSTEM - the abstract relationship between sovereign and citizen, all the moving parts and procedures that make up the institution of criminal justice - that is being changed which will make it less racist? These words we use are specific and their specific meanings matter greatly.

If things like passing sensitivity training and non-lethal takedown procedures are as mandatory as fitness checks or firearms training, the kind of person that is in it mostly to exert power over others is going to quit or be flunked out. Realistically you can't disarm the police without disarming the populace. I live in a country where guns are difficult to obtain, and extremely heavily legislated against with severe penalties for ownership, but still have an armed police force. As long as you have the 2nd amendment interpreted as it currently is, you just don't get the luxury of having armed police only deployed surgically, unfortunately.

Qualified immunity should be - as the name implies - qualified, not a blanket shield against all actions.
Yes, body cameras should be mandatory in all districts, and having 'malfunctioning' equipment should be assumed to be negligence, with the corresponding loss of coverage of things like legal protections or insurance. If your body camera mysteriously breaks down right before a suspect gets executed, you should face the consequences of that as a private citizen.

Things like decriminalising drugs or community residency I don't see as being particularly big factors tbh.
Communities in bad areas don't want junkies or drug dealers on their streets, and would rather see police not from their area than having no police presence at all.
People living in bad neighbourhoods aren't upset there's too many police there. They're upset they only show up when things get really bad. Better community policing doesn't mean only having people who live there policing things; it means having people there enough that they can think of them as part of the community.
Likewise you can have better treatment of drug addicts by pushing for detox programs over imprisonment without making heroin legal or permitting drug dealers free reign.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 01, 2020, 09:18:56 PM
https://twitter.com/ajitxsingh/status/1267533879797149696

clearly what this man needs is more money

I assume his argument is that by offering better pay, you would attract different demographics in the long term.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 09:28:11 PM
People living in bad neighbourhoods aren't upset there's too many police there. They're upset they only show up when things get really bad. Better community policing doesn't mean only having people who live there policing things; it means having people there enough that they can think of them as part of the community.
I'm the one who showed you this polling ::) They want both. They want more beat cops because petty crime is real but they want to only be policed by people they know and trust and who are invested in the community.

We can debate the rest of it to any level of detail but my point is that funneling more money isn't a solution
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 01, 2020, 09:32:29 PM
Thats what structural change means.
No. To be only slightly tautological... structural change must change the structure of policing. You can't just do the Biden plan and take the racist bits out (because it's not possible), you need to do fundamentally alter the de jure relationship that police have with the community. You need to disarm the police, mandate what percent of the budget can go into new equipment, you need to set up expedient community recall procedures, you need to abolish their unions, you need to repeal qualified immunity, you need to enforce the community residence requirement which is routinely violated, you need body camera laws in every state, you need drug decriminalizations, you need to get rid of ticket quotas and all the other harassment beats, you need to get rid of cash bail, etc. etc. etc. That is what's meant by STRUCTURAL change.

This is why I get so annoyed when mainstream politicians all pay lip service to ending "systemic racism" and then say absolutely nothing consequential. What is it about the SYSTEM - the abstract relationship between sovereign and citizen, all the moving parts and procedures that make up the institution of criminal justice - that is being changed which will make it less racist? These words we use are specific and their specific meanings matter greatly.

If things like passing sensitivity training and non-lethal takedown procedures are as mandatory as fitness checks or firearms training, the kind of person that is in it mostly to exert power over others is going to quit or be flunked out. Realistically you can't disarm the police without disarming the populace. I live in a country where guns are difficult to obtain, and extremely heavily legislated against with severe penalties for ownership, but still have an armed police force. As long as you have the 2nd amendment interpreted as it currently is, you just don't get the luxury of having armed police only deployed surgically, unfortunately.

Qualified immunity should be - as the name implies - qualified, not a blanket shield against all actions.
Yes, body cameras should be mandatory in all districts, and having 'malfunctioning' equipment should be assumed to be negligence, with the corresponding loss of coverage of things like legal protections or insurance. If your body camera mysteriously breaks down right before a suspect gets executed, you should face the consequences of that as a private citizen.

Things like decriminalising drugs or community residency I don't see as being particularly big factors tbh.
Communities in bad areas don't want junkies or drug dealers on their streets, and would rather see police not from their area than having no police presence at all.
People living in bad neighbourhoods aren't upset there's too many police there. They're upset they only show up when things get really bad. Better community policing doesn't mean only having people who live there policing things; it means having people there enough that they can think of them as part of the community.
Likewise you can have better treatment of drug addicts by pushing for detox programs over imprisonment without making heroin legal or permitting drug dealers free reign.

Thanks for the quick finding on this post:

(https://i.imgur.com/8YEvjXL.jpg)

"Just pay them more! It'll attract more than the power-hungry! Just drop the second amendment! It'll lower the guns to defend yourself with over the pigs that use them on you for thinking YOU HAVE A FUCKING GUN despite not conceal carrying or having a history of owning one! (Oh, or just being black and them being white and looking to murder someone!)"


Quote
People living in bad neighbourhoods aren't upset there's too many police there. They're upset they only show up when things get really bad. Better community policing doesn't mean only having people who live there policing things; it means having people there enough that they can think of them as part of the community.

They're "upset," because they're being profiled just like the people that live their that are making the drugs. Ever heard of the "War on Drugs?" Yeah, that's been a dismal failure. You can throw more money at the problem (getting more DEA/agents) but that doesn't solve the issue (drug dealers just move and/or get more crafty)

It's the same with brutality: Paying folks more isn't suddenly going to get folks like the cop that murdered George to lay off. They'll just get PAID MORE until they find a chance to kill someone that looks at them wrong.

"So do sensitivity training!"

They do that. Often. It doesn't work if the people that want to kill don't listen and/or are paranoid that the next black person they meet will pull a gun/knife/whatever on them and shoot first instead of asking questions.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 01, 2020, 09:35:02 PM
If things like passing sensitivity training and non-lethal takedown procedures are as mandatory as fitness checks or firearms training, the kind of person that is in it mostly to exert power over others is going to quit or be flunked out.

Nobody actually gets weeded out of a job by flunking HR training courses unless they're functionally illiterate.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 09:39:29 PM
anybody else seeing atra post some absolutely crazytown shit on facebook
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 09:41:27 PM
People still use facebook? It's 2020 and your facebook profile is probably 3 degrees from the Antifa leaders dude.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 01, 2020, 09:43:06 PM
If things like passing sensitivity training and non-lethal takedown procedures are as mandatory as fitness checks or firearms training, the kind of person that is in it mostly to exert power over others is going to quit or be flunked out.

Nobody actually gets weeded out of a job by flunking HR training courses unless they're functionally illiterate.

yeah seriously, you watch the sexual harassment training video and joke with your buddy the entire time how fucking hot the lawyer is :drool and then you lie on the test to pass it
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 09:44:54 PM
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1267628467157454849
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 09:51:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IcqxkKDWIA&feature=emb_title

shit's crazy
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 01, 2020, 09:54:47 PM
Just like the photo op at the church that he didn't ask or notify anyone associated with the church that he was going to do.

the end of his speech was goofball as shit

"now I'm going to go pay my respects to a very very special place"

sounded like he might be talking about the site of the murder!
 :titus
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 01, 2020, 09:55:28 PM
"Just drop the second amendment! It'll lower the guns to defend yourself with over the pigs that use them on you for thinking YOU HAVE A FUCKING GUN despite not conceal carrying or having a history of owning one! (Oh, or just being black and them being white and looking to murder someone!)"

:confused

I don't know how you read that from what I said.

Yeah, you guys should abso-fucking-lutely not interpret the second amendment to mean everyone should have a right to own guns, but what I was saying was predicated on Americas absolute reluctance to concede that, not assuming that would ever happen.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 01, 2020, 09:58:21 PM
realistically what happens to military personnel if they refuse to shoot civilians

court-martialed?

if it came to that I don't foresee any of them refusing since obeying orders and chain of command is so drilled in
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 01, 2020, 09:59:43 PM
I don't have the polling handy but the armed forces are a lot less right-leaning than police in this country.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 10:00:20 PM
Watching this particular livestream just reminds me of jake's post earlier. These kids are barely even protesting, they're just wandering around breaking curfew waiting to get their faces bashed in by the cops while a military helicopter flies overhead tracking where the crowd is. This is the hard limit to this strategy.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on June 01, 2020, 10:04:51 PM
the left is pushing abolition, not reform

 :brain
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 10:05:59 PM
One of those helicopters is going to fly low enough and clip a building and crash into a group of people

EDIT: at the moment the copter is below building roofs, slowly lowering in an intersection
It's just a distraction so they can surround them.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on June 01, 2020, 10:07:14 PM
If you can designate Antifa a terrorist organization you can designate the NYPD as one.  Hope you guys get a lefty president that can abuse terror laws someday.

Hold on, you are not from the US?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 01, 2020, 10:07:16 PM
realistically what happens to military personnel if they refuse to shoot civilians

court-martialed?

if it came to that I don't foresee any of them refusing since obeying orders and chain of command is so drilled in

An actual military coup has to be at least a possibility if people higher up the chain of command are prepared to deny the legitimacy of their orders
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on June 01, 2020, 10:07:26 PM
But in seriousness, I have not seen a single actionable plan about how to achieve police reform, except for maybe reinstating Obama's demilitarization stuff.  It's crazy how everyone in the media can simultaneously agree that racism is bad and structural but don't engage with the question of how to change that.   And in an election year, you think that would be the first thing that happens.  Shame the Dem primaries finished when they did.

The only thing that can fix it is pouring an absolute fucking ton of money into policing; training, graduate career programs, higher wages, more ancillary staff, structural changes. If you don't want to attract the kind of people that get off on exerting authority over people, you have to make it an attractive career for normal people.

But how is anyone going to put that into a manifesto without it looking like rewarding them for their bad behaviour?
Or justify pouring money into the police over things like urban regeneration, education or healthcare?

Defund the police.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 01, 2020, 10:08:39 PM
If you can designate Antifa a terrorist organization you can designate the NYPD as one.  Hope you guys get a lefty president that can abuse terror laws someday.

Hold on, you are not from the US?

canadian
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 10:09:07 PM
actually I think he's Candian
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 10:10:06 PM
But my online self identifies American, when convenient. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 01, 2020, 10:11:17 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/QQlqQ3t_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high)

(https://i.imgur.com/WCMU6M0.png)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 10:11:50 PM
I've been watching CNN for the first time in years - or any American news network.  I think I'm starting to understand why America is so fucked up.  You guys need more BBC in your lives.   
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 01, 2020, 10:12:38 PM
You guys need more BBC in your lives.

okay but where should we get our news?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on June 01, 2020, 10:13:20 PM
But my online self identifies American, when convenient.

Uh...
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 10:13:53 PM
You guys need more BBC in your lives.

okay but where should we get our news?

CBC
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on June 01, 2020, 10:14:21 PM
I've been watching CNN for the first time in years - or any American news network.  I think I'm starting to understand why America is so fucked up.  You guys need more BBC in your lives.

Eh... didn’t BBC had some big controversies this past decade?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: kingv on June 01, 2020, 10:14:54 PM
I don't have the polling handy but the armed forces are a lot less right-leaning than police in this country.

Fighting in an endless war that’s been going on since before you were old enough to remember will do that.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 10:16:22 PM
Fighting in an endless war that’s been going on since before you were old enough to remember will do that.
This helps but I think it has more to do with the fact that it's just harder to get into the police than the military, and the military has better benefits.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on June 01, 2020, 10:16:37 PM
But my online self identifies American, when convenient.

Uh...

He means using websites and VPN's, dude

Ah, okay. It weird me out because Canada is in the American continent...
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on June 01, 2020, 10:17:55 PM
Fighting in an endless war that’s been going on since before you were old enough to remember will do that.
This helps but I think it has more to do with the fact that it's just harder to get into the police than the military, and the military has better benefits.

Wait, what?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 10:18:01 PM
I've been watching CNN for the first time in years - or any American news network.  I think I'm starting to understand why America is so fucked up.  You guys need more BBC in your lives.

Eh... didn’t BBC had some big controversies this past decade?

If the BBC spent one day acting as partisan and biased as CNN, that would be their biggest scandal yet and they covered up that their most famous children's' performer was a child rapist for decades. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 01, 2020, 10:19:26 PM
I've been watching CNN for the first time in years - or any American news network.  I think I'm starting to understand why America is so fucked up.  You guys need more BBC in your lives.

Eh... didn’t BBC had some big controversies this past decade?

Sure has. (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mr-marcus-jail_n_3390912)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: kingv on June 01, 2020, 10:19:33 PM
But in seriousness, I have not seen a single actionable plan about how to achieve police reform, except for maybe reinstating Obama's demilitarization stuff.  It's crazy how everyone in the media can simultaneously agree that racism is bad and structural but don't engage with the question of how to change that.   And in an election year, you think that would be the first thing that happens.  Shame the Dem primaries finished when they did.

The only thing that can fix it is pouring an absolute fucking ton of money into policing; training, graduate career programs, higher wages, more ancillary staff, structural changes. If you don't want to attract the kind of people that get off on exerting authority over people, you have to make it an attractive career for normal people.

But how is anyone going to put that into a manifesto without it looking like rewarding them for their bad behaviour?
Or justify pouring money into the police over things like urban regeneration, education or healthcare?

Defund the police.

The idea thst police need more money is crazy. They need less military gear, and need to lose qualified immunity.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on June 01, 2020, 10:19:54 PM
I've been watching CNN for the first time in years - or any American news network.  I think I'm starting to understand why America is so fucked up.  You guys need more BBC in your lives.

Eh... didn’t BBC had some big controversies this past decade?

If the BBC spent one day acting as partisan and biased as CNN, that would be their biggest scandal yet and they covered up that their most famous children's' performer was a child rapist for decades.

 :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 10:19:58 PM
https://twitter.com/chadloder/status/1267262300919980032
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 01, 2020, 10:20:28 PM
You guys need more BBC in your lives.

okay but where should we get our news?

Mandark fishing for filler likes. :wag
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 10:22:14 PM
https://twitter.com/QuarantineTrac1/status/1267640806158012416
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: kingv on June 01, 2020, 10:25:15 PM
Only got 1 :-(
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on June 01, 2020, 10:27:47 PM
I don't have the polling handy but the armed forces are a lot less right-leaning than police in this country.

Fighting in an endless war that’s been going on since before you were old enough to remember will do that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUf_8jyxbiM
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 10:40:29 PM
Seems a lot more calmer tonight.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: remy on June 01, 2020, 10:44:35 PM
https://twitter.com/QuarantineTrac1/status/1267640806158012416
Should have brought it back around for another run through
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: eleuin on June 01, 2020, 10:49:33 PM
https://twitter.com/Pokemon/status/1267516457895804931

tasty come get your game franchise
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 01, 2020, 10:53:21 PM
https://twitter.com/Pokemon/status/1267516457895804931

tasty come get your game franchise

This is what Sony meant when they said they were going to step back and let more important voices be heard.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 10:54:57 PM
I will defend the BBC until the day I can no longer make half-hearted arguments online.  Their coverage of India is problematic though. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 01, 2020, 10:57:48 PM
https://twitter.com/OmarJimenez/status/1267580651882061824

This is so blatant
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 01, 2020, 11:00:24 PM
https://twitter.com/OmarJimenez/status/1267580651882061824

This is so blatant
the chillest tweaker ive seen in a minute tbh
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 11:00:56 PM
I'm also starting to think that autopsies might be criminal junk science and fake like economics. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on June 01, 2020, 11:02:24 PM
https://twitter.com/BLMLA/status/1267616840924028928
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 01, 2020, 11:04:33 PM
I'm also starting to think that autopsies might be criminal junk science and fake like economics.

If you ever want to make yourself mad look up bite mark analysis, which has been used to convict people.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 01, 2020, 11:05:28 PM
Wild how the rioters went back in time and killed him before the riots started.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 11:06:36 PM
In pre-school, some kid bit me on the leg and we used his gangly-ass teeth to time the fucker out. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 11:11:39 PM
I literally haven't heard anything about the Louisville guy on national news all day, pretty big fail if you ask me.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 11:13:45 PM
Ya I hope it happens tomorrow but it kind of shows that black lives don't matter unless they die on camera.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: paprikastaude on June 01, 2020, 11:16:48 PM
https://twitter.com/Pokemon/status/1267516457895804931

tasty come get your game franchise

anime, so this probably isn't even meant to be a black character but some guy with a really strong tan.  :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 11:20:36 PM
https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=2917791718289746&ref=watch_permalink
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: naff on June 01, 2020, 11:27:44 PM
I'm also starting to think that autopsies might be criminal junk science and fake like economics.

If you ever want to make yourself mad look up bite mark analysis, which has been used to convict people.

ya it's so infuriating, but it's illegitimacy was amplified by some real hacks - specifically that one racist southern guy who's work has led to dozens of bad convictions (of black men ya), but the guy who kinda popularised it with ted bundys conviction does a good job in 'the innocence files' of outlining where it's valid and how the hacks (this one in particular) have been allowed to manipulate the system. the flaws being more in the system not cross referencing "experts" and verdicts being biased towards who delivered the best performance vs. presentation of legitimate evidence.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 11:30:54 PM
But in seriousness, I have not seen a single actionable plan about how to achieve police reform, except for maybe reinstating Obama's demilitarization stuff.
Today Obama linked everyone to a 143 page document his administration put together years ago and I don't actually know if that's better  :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on June 01, 2020, 11:36:44 PM
https://twitter.com/Pokemon/status/1267516457895804931

tasty come get your game franchise

anime, so this probably isn't even meant to be a black character but some guy with a really strong tan.  :doge

Nah. He is from the Hawain-like region. Pretty sure Pokémon have many (actually) black characters.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 01, 2020, 11:37:55 PM
https://twitter.com/kenmasolo/status/1267649956552355841
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Akala on June 01, 2020, 11:41:40 PM
hiding in a bunker and killing the lights in the face of a protest threw me off the entire day, I can't stop thinking about it. then I saw him fumbling around with a bible and it's like let me try and act out what I bet it's like to hold a book.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 01, 2020, 11:54:11 PM
Feeling a little despondent... the protests are basically over, they're going to keep upping the violence until no one wants to be outside anymore, and to my amazement, no city that I know of has announced any concrete plan of action. At the end of the day it was just a burst of energy gone as quickly as it started. The only thing that's changed is some public opinion, but just barely.

One whole week of liberal politicians saying "We hear you! We hear you!" But if nothing changes then hearing has become ignoring.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: El Babua on June 01, 2020, 11:57:59 PM
The last 6 months had like at least 5 years of accelerationism. I wouldn't count out anything crazier happening.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Akala on June 01, 2020, 11:58:09 PM
Comments.

https://mobile.twitter.com/FBI/status/1267573544747257858
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 12:01:21 AM
The last 6 months had like at least 5 years of accelerationism. I wouldn't count out anything crazier happening.
a whole generation has been scarred by police violence so I guess that's not nothing.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 02, 2020, 12:02:05 AM
WHAT THE FUCK
https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1267641851215036416

lmao imagine going out to an anti-cop protest and then trying to flag down some cops thinking that they'll help you out just because you'll tell them the truth
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 02, 2020, 12:04:44 AM
Feeling a little despondent... the protests are basically over, they're going to keep upping the violence until no one wants to be outside anymore, and to my amazement, no city that I know of has announced any concrete plan of action. At the end of the day it was just a burst of energy gone as quickly as it started. The only thing that's changed is some public opinion, but just barely.

One whole week of liberal politicians saying "We hear you! We hear you!" But if nothing changes then hearing has become ignoring.

protests over? my dude ferguson protests were out there nightly for months and faced much worse artillery and tactics then what has been used this time. people are not going to give up that easily.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on June 02, 2020, 12:05:42 AM
Feeling a little despondent... the protests are basically over, they're going to keep upping the violence until no one wants to be outside anymore, and to my amazement, no city that I know of has announced any concrete plan of action. At the end of the day it was just a burst of energy gone as quickly as it started. The only thing that's changed is some public opinion, but just barely.

One whole week of liberal politicians saying "We hear you! We hear you!" But if nothing changes then hearing has become ignoring.

protests over? my dude ferguson protests were out there nightly for months and faced much worse artillery and tactics then what has been used this time. people are not going to give up that easily.

It was not in the middle of a pandemic.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 02, 2020, 12:05:58 AM
Feeling a little despondent... the protests are basically over, they're going to keep upping the violence until no one wants to be outside anymore, and to my amazement, no city that I know of has announced any concrete plan of action. At the end of the day it was just a burst of energy gone as quickly as it started. The only thing that's changed is some public opinion, but just barely.

One whole week of liberal politicians saying "We hear you! We hear you!" But if nothing changes then hearing has become ignoring.

there were quite a few crazy things that happened that could have longer term consequences or certain people fighting harder for change

Ohio congresswoman pepper sprayed
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/05/congresswoman-pepper-sprayed-joyce-beatty/612436/

New York state senator sprayed and handcuffed
http://bronx.news12.com/story/42192118/state-senator-says-he-was-pepper-sprayed-handcuffed-at-barclays-protest

it might be too early to say how this could affect the election but it sure feels like a net loss for Trump at the moment
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 12:06:36 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/Kgo4QR6.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 02, 2020, 12:07:07 AM
Feeling a little despondent... the protests are basically over, they're going to keep upping the violence until no one wants to be outside anymore, and to my amazement, no city that I know of has announced any concrete plan of action. At the end of the day it was just a burst of energy gone as quickly as it started. The only thing that's changed is some public opinion, but just barely.

One whole week of liberal politicians saying "We hear you! We hear you!" But if nothing changes then hearing has become ignoring.

protests over? my dude ferguson protests were out there nightly for months and faced much worse artillery and tactics then what has been used this time. people are not going to give up that easily.

It was not in the middle of a pandemic.

pandemic does mean a lot of people have no jobs right now and nothing better to do
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: remy on June 02, 2020, 12:08:20 AM
pandemic does mean a lot of people have no jobs right now and nothing better to do
exactly, this shit is a pressure cooker.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 02, 2020, 12:13:58 AM
I've been watching CNN for the first time in years - or any American news network.  I think I'm starting to understand why America is so fucked up.  You guys need more BBC in your lives.

Eh... didn’t BBC had some big controversies this past decade?

If the BBC spent one day acting as partisan and biased as CNN, that would be their biggest scandal yet and they covered up that their most famous children's' performer was a child rapist for decades.

The same bbc who’s political editor is basically head of Tory PR at this point?

:maduro
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 12:15:24 AM
https://twitter.com/MikeMadden/status/1267667123335311361

:lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 12:22:51 AM
It surprises me because people burned down Minneapolis and wrought havoc on multiple other cities and they already know that the next time there's another death it'll happen all over again but they still don't give a fuck because at the end of the day all they have to do is call in the national guard and goddamn it I am losing my mind at the callous indifference :stahp
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 02, 2020, 12:24:21 AM
yes that would be u.s. politics
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on June 02, 2020, 12:26:42 AM
Feeling a little despondent... the protests are basically over, they're going to keep upping the violence until no one wants to be outside anymore, and to my amazement, no city that I know of has announced any concrete plan of action. At the end of the day it was just a burst of energy gone as quickly as it started. The only thing that's changed is some public opinion, but just barely.

One whole week of liberal politicians saying "We hear you! We hear you!" But if nothing changes then hearing has become ignoring.

protests over? my dude ferguson protests were out there nightly for months and faced much worse artillery and tactics then what has been used this time. people are not going to give up that easily.

It was not in the middle of a pandemic.

pandemic does mean a lot of people have no jobs right now and nothing better to do

Until the virus kicks in two weeks from now.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 02, 2020, 12:30:52 AM
everyone now saying it was a foregone conclusion that nothing would change when just a few days ago they were saying peaceful protest has been tried and failed so things have to get violent because that's how you guarantee change
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 02, 2020, 12:32:44 AM
https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/1267669022134243328
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 02, 2020, 12:40:18 AM
https://twitter.com/brett_mcgurk/status/1267662905383596032
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 02, 2020, 12:42:42 AM
It surprises me because people burned down Minneapolis and wrought havoc on multiple other cities and they already know that the next time there's another death it'll happen all over again but they still don't give a fuck because at the end of the day all they have to do is call in the national guard and goddamn it I am losing my mind at the callous indifference :stahp

Now you know why some of us hate both parties. :kermit

Take the black pill, bb. Free your mind from Jack's grip.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on June 02, 2020, 12:46:03 AM
It surprises me because people burned down Minneapolis and wrought havoc on multiple other cities and they already know that the next time there's another death it'll happen all over again but they still don't give a fuck because at the end of the day all they have to do is call in the national guard and goddamn it I am losing my mind at the callous indifference :stahp
One of our cities has only just now visibly recovered from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_Detroit_riot
(In this case literally in that the ring of fires was still visible in locations that were never rebuilt.)

And similar was: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_Newark_riots

Which led to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerner_Commission
Quote
President Johnson, who had already pushed through the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act, ignored the report and rejected the Kerner Commission's recommendations.[4] In April 1968, one month after the release of the Kerner report, rioting broke out in more than 100 cities following the assassination of civil rights leader Martin Luther King, Jr.
And Nixon/Wallace won a majority of the vote, and then Nixon won one of the biggest landslides ever, by essentially running against them rather than to admit any possible wrongdoings in society/state/government, let alone commit to any specific reforms.

The 1990's reaction on crime that culminated in the post-9/11 reaction built a modern police force that has never actually faced a reckoning of that size or even the LA riots. It's instead achieved things like locking down all of Boston to find one person. Police forces now are much more major institutions than they were then. The federal law enforcement and associated intelligence apparatus has never been bigger. What's some minor property damage and mass looting by funemployed people compared to it? Deaths aren't even in the tens yet are they?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 02, 2020, 12:47:59 AM
https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/1267667232794050562
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: remy on June 02, 2020, 12:49:25 AM
https://twitter.com/benyc/status/1267587033783992322

Another angle of the shield bash.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 02, 2020, 12:50:59 AM
for whoever posted the fake antifa Twitter account:
https://twitter.com/JoyceWhiteVance/status/1267633407711948800?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 02, 2020, 12:51:42 AM
https://twitter.com/brett_mcgurk/status/1267662905383596032
love how media frames shit like this as “but why are they beating the fuck out of us?”
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on June 02, 2020, 01:14:51 AM
"which is interesting because they're not discriminating between the protesters and the media" - Australian anchorlady

well, they might be, but just not in the way you're probably thinking :rollsafe
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 02, 2020, 01:18:05 AM
Had a rough night (dad died but don't want to hijack the thread). What did I miss? I heard police gassed priests?!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: remy on June 02, 2020, 01:18:56 AM
"which is interesting because they're not discriminating between the protesters and the media" - Australian anchorlady

well, they might be, but just not in the way you're probably thinking :rollsafe
"its interesting they beat a white person"
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 01:21:16 AM
I'm sorry Cindi.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on June 02, 2020, 01:22:12 AM
https//twitter.com/justinboldaji/status/1266940031374995459

"It's cause the cops were too woke, actually"
She says "body cams are not turned on unless police have to take action" so therefore it is clear that these officers did not act.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 02, 2020, 01:22:48 AM
Update me so I can the fight going 💪
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 01:30:06 AM
Update me so I can the fight going 💪
Starts on page 24.

- innocent black man killed by police or national guard live fire during a sudden shootout between cops and a rogue protestor in Louisville. Details murky. Wasn't picked up by national news.
- Trump made a speech that managed to check off every box on how to make things worse. Tear gassed a bunch of lawful protestors so he could walk two blocks and have a cringe photo op holding a bible.
- I watched video after video of indiscriminate police violence against protestors and journalists and flipped out.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 02, 2020, 01:31:25 AM
I'm caught up on the first two things. No idea what happened after Trump's speech.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 01:34:05 AM
DC protests were kind of nuts with the military flying helicopters. Eventually the protestors started taking refuge in homes and the national guard was going door to door demanding they take hand over the protestors but they couldn't do anything because they weren't trespassing. I don't know what happened to that.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 01:35:26 AM
https://twitter.com/jusalotofpain/status/1267638427723296768

Maga Mindset
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 02, 2020, 01:35:48 AM
DC protests were kind of nuts with the military flying helicopters. Eventually the protestors started taking refuge in homes and the national guard was going door to door demanding they take hand over the protestors but they couldn't do anything because they weren't trespassing. I don't know what happened to that.

What the fuck.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on June 02, 2020, 01:38:06 AM
No idea what happened after Trump's speech.
Titan is almost ready.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: remy on June 02, 2020, 01:43:11 AM
https://twitter.com/jusalotofpain/status/1267638427723296768

Maga Mindset
This shit is fucking insane to me. Gas canister to the face at point blank.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 01:50:13 AM
DC protests were kind of nuts with the military flying helicopters. Eventually the protestors started taking refuge in homes and the national guard was going door to door demanding they take hand over the protestors but they couldn't do anything because they weren't trespassing. I don't know what happened to that.

What the fuck.
found a thread, they're currently still waiting outside these houses with buses ready to deliver the protesters to jail.

https://twitter.com/allieblablah/status/1267680388123631616
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on June 02, 2020, 01:52:03 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/hZBrxCQ/9-DB4-A79-E-05-BD-4538-9-C10-17-DB391-B3238.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on June 02, 2020, 01:54:04 AM
https://twitter.com/PDPJ/status/1267676130984763393
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 01:55:39 AM
https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1267676026391404544

Uh... this is the best propaganda video they could come up with?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EchoRin on June 02, 2020, 02:01:04 AM
Seeing his tweets from yesterday and today (I haven't looked past say 2PM... shit. Well it's technically June 2nd now, but you know what I mean) has been utterly infuriating. This man has no idea how to communicate to the country during this time.

This video, while I'm guessing was something his team pushed through more than himself, is still utterly stupid and pointless. Going to a church and holding a bible? What?! Yes I've hated this man since he began his candidacy, but I can't believe how pathetically he is approaching this protest.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 02, 2020, 02:03:24 AM
:rofl @ the white house vid
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on June 02, 2020, 02:09:17 AM
God, can you imagine what it's gonna be like for when Trump gets re-elected? He'll have to take the inauguration in a bunker.

That bunker bitch.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 02, 2020, 02:10:59 AM
God, can you imagine what it's gonna be like for when Trump gets re-elected? He'll have to take the inauguration in a bunker.

That bunker bitch.

Trump? Reelected? Don't count on it unless the dumbass leftists convince everyone to stay home
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EchoRin on June 02, 2020, 02:12:43 AM
I'm still scared he could win. I certainly hope this event tilts the scales in the other direction.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on June 02, 2020, 02:14:19 AM
God, can you imagine what it's gonna be like for when Trump gets re-elected? He'll have to take the inauguration in a bunker.

That bunker bitch.

Trump? Reelected? Don't count on it unless the dumbass leftists convince everyone to stay home
oh it'll happen. Count on it.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 02:25:44 AM
Many white people on my FB feed have decided the riots are beyond the pale and must be stopped by any means necessary
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on June 02, 2020, 02:28:36 AM
Many white people on my FB feed have decided the riots are beyond the pale and must be stopped by any means necessary
The people want lockdown orders enforced against ANTIFA to combat the Wuhan Virus.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:dobbs
[close]
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 02, 2020, 02:29:04 AM
Even nintex has turned on him, trump is done, litmas is over

:trumps
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on June 02, 2020, 02:30:35 AM
Then I hope The War™ is against the Dutch.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 02, 2020, 02:40:20 AM
If America can’t handle a bit of civil disorder how will you handle Dutch directness

:rash

Get ready for some lit zwarte ops brehs :pimp
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 02, 2020, 03:28:09 AM
Trump? Reelected? Don't count on it unless the dumbass leftists convince everyone to stay home

Non-voting leftists are a tiny, tiny minority.

If Trump wins, it will be thanks to the hardened cultural identities of exurban white people in the midwest whose votes get extra weight because of the electoral college (and the current geographic distribution of various demographic groups).
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 02, 2020, 03:46:22 AM
Trump? Reelected? Don't count on it unless the dumbass leftists convince everyone to stay home

Non-voting leftists are a tiny, tiny minority.

If Trump wins, it will be thanks to the hardened cultural identities of exurban white people in the midwest whose votes get extra weight because of the electoral college (and the current geographic distribution of various demographic groups).

No but they're spreading anti-biden stuff in the middle of a time when we have a literal dictator
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 02, 2020, 04:14:45 AM
US nearing favorite third world country to follow. Even Duterte didnt make this much of a mess.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 02, 2020, 04:55:25 AM
After these riots there is a (good) chance Trump will get reelected.

Nothing to change some allies and undecided people into enemies then some "if you are not with us then you are against us and a racist" rhetoric and seeing your country burn.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 02, 2020, 05:09:24 AM
That's exactly the attitude of why Trump might win so thanks for proving my point. Remember Clintons deplorables?

I really don't care what you have or not have patience for :umad

If you guys want to be an echo chamber go at it  :trumps

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 02, 2020, 05:28:20 AM
There is no discussion just

"omg the police did this and that how could they"

"omg trump how can he"

"omg nothing is changing"

One of the two/three people that doesn't support violent mass protests during an epidemic was banned. I'm not mad this is a private forum if the mods can do whatever they want. Of course its super hypocrite to ban people for free speech when being so outraged about police clamping down on protests but hey that's just my logic.

But don't pretend like there is any discussion going on here besides a sad em up of police violence and echo chamber.

I'll keep voicing my opinion if I feel like it until I no longer can.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 02, 2020, 05:32:49 AM
Btw playing the race card over this is  :lol

Even my avatar is making fun of white coronabro for months now, thats ok of course. But when I say these protests are dumb thats racism  :lol

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 02, 2020, 05:35:10 AM
Sure you think its dumb, I think the rioters are dumb. Opinions eh.

But I guess I failed critical thought class otherwise I'd be all for looting Target.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 02, 2020, 05:40:49 AM
My argument (no critical thought):

-Mass violent protest during a pandemic is a bad idea that will hit the communities that protest the hardest, it would be best to channel this somehow differently. Police is clearly at fault here for the murder and systematic discrimination and this should change.

Your argument (deep critical thought):

-Violence is the only way to change things, other things have failed, revolution! If you are against this you are a racist!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: naff on June 02, 2020, 05:42:28 AM
kosma has been so consistently cringe since I joined here a decade ago I feel bad even acknowledging his existence
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 02, 2020, 05:43:20 AM
https://twitter.com/robferdman/status/1267555994709655553


 :trumps
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: naff on June 02, 2020, 05:46:20 AM
 sounds like a death squad
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 02, 2020, 05:46:31 AM
hoping for a trashy run in so we can witness the formation of the super fash bros :tocry
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 02, 2020, 06:17:23 AM
Btw playing the race card over this is  :lol

Even my avatar is making fun of white coronabro for months now, thats ok of course. But when I say these protests are dumb thats racism  :lol

I dont think you are racist either (I mean swarte piet is just culture), but it's proably just not the time for us to act enlightened here. I mean, I also live in Denmark and white as fuck, and despite a few incidents with police in the country, it's hard to understand the whole acab rhetoric, when they are overwhelmingly a positive where you live, let alone all the emotions that leads to this. So of course it seems a bit weird, when people go out to risk their lives both due to violence and the rona, and possibly creating even more divide. But obviously this is many fucking years of oppressed feelings. This is where we sit back and make memes instead.  8)


Anyway want to go loot Elgiganten with me?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 02, 2020, 07:38:18 AM
After these riots there is a (good) chance Trump will get reelected.

Nothing to change some allies and undecided people into enemies then some "if you are not with us then you are against us and a racist" rhetoric and seeing your country burn.

I'll be the one to agree in a sense: Riots do have a voting affect. There's been studies done on this...

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/06/will-todays-riots-spur-electoral-backlash-like-1967s.html

I however don't agree in the sense that "Trump will win, for sure." I was 80% sure of it when Bernie dropped out (#NoTNoShade) but now? I'm about 60-65% sure. It's iffy only because a lot of folks in America are tired of the police and the system abuse of the police.

Now where I'll agree with you on "Trump will win," is that it depends on white folks. Do they balk at the riots in greater numbers than the ones that agree? Hard to say. They may, but I can't say with any certainty that they do right now.

Will they vote in greater numbers than the other races/PoC/whatever you want to put as a term here? Eh... maybe? Thing is, whites are a declining majority with birthrates/etc. But that point hasn't been reached yet, if research/estimations are holding (IIRC, it's another 4 election cycles away? 2040-2050 or so before the White Majority is a minority in America).

Trump is doing a dismal job, everyone knows it. The question is: Will his voting base turn out to vote him again MORE than the folks that want to get him out. AND know the Electorial College system (aka: Midwest gets bigger votes than NYC/NY state) to beat because "popular vote ain't shit!" like Gore and Clinton should have drilled into the folks head after the previous 20 years that had them lose despite popular vote.

That's where I get my 65% confidence in that: The "rural" states are the ones that generally probably won't see too much brutality. Yeah, Michigan and Minnasota have seen it, but smaller towns generally don't. That's where the question of "is the message hitting?" comes to. Do those rural places that maybe have 1-2 cops seeing them understand that those cops MAY not be as good as they appear? *shrug* Can't say. Depends on if the message sticks until November, 4-5 months away.

BUT ANYWAY: You're Polish/non-American. Like Trashy (and Sage): You should shut the fuck up. :kermit Because the police brutality issue going on in America doesn't affect your day-to-day.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 02, 2020, 07:54:22 AM
Trump is doing a dismal job, everyone knows it. The question is: Will his voting base turn out to vote him again MORE than the folks that want to get him out. AND know the Electorial College system (aka: Midwest gets bigger votes than NYC/NY state) to beat because "popular vote ain't shit!" like Gore and Clinton should have drilled into the folks head after the previous 20 years that had them lose despite popular vote.

He's going to win again.  I don't want him to.  I don't support him at all- but he's going to get re-elected. 

And I hope to be wrong on this.

 :engel
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 02, 2020, 07:57:42 AM
Since when do looters and rioters not deserve to be shot?

lmao
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 02, 2020, 07:58:37 AM
Libertarian argues for excessive force by the state. You love to see it. :society
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: headwalk on June 02, 2020, 08:03:27 AM
i'm just a distinguished mentally-challenged fellowed johnny foreigner but to me it seems a police body of paramilitary dickheads with itchy trigger fingers is the natural ying to the yang of an armed population in a nation with chasmic wealth disparity. black people bear the brunt of it, but their treatment is a symptom. as long as large numbers of them live in shitty areas flooded with guns, even if the cops suddenly awakened into a colourblind state of racial enlightenment, i'm not sure how much the situation would change statistically. there could be sweeping reforms enacted and all it would take is one cop taking one in the chest on a routine call and any adherence to a sentiment of calm resolve is fucked off entirely.

it's a system set up to fail. a perfect storm that ensures the worst sort of people become cops and find justification in using the worst methods.

but as i said, none of my business really.


Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 02, 2020, 08:03:36 AM
The state exists to shoot citizens :hmm

it's called miniarchism bro look it up
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 02, 2020, 08:09:28 AM
You can never underestimate racism in America in any situation. You also have to count/hope for Republicans not to just not vote, because you aren't ever going to get an appreciable number of Republican voters to actually vote for Biden or any Democrat regardless of the circumstances. There's absolutely still a significant chance for Trump to get re-elected in this country, literally no matter what happens between now and November.

Not if he dies first

:maduro
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: headwalk on June 02, 2020, 08:12:19 AM
I'm still  :mindblown at the church photo op. Never have I seen such a completely shameless, worthless, and hollow piece of political theater. All they wanted was to be able to have the pictures for propaganda purposes but the whole world got to see the behind the scenes set up and execution as it happened, they don't give a shit that everyone saw it for what it was in real time, and then they still put out all the pictures and that video like we didn't all just see what was going on and acknowledged it was such bullshit.


He literally didn't say anything, didn't even know how to hold a fucking book, at one point was holding it upside down.

you're not the target audience. those who are are will actually like the fact he tear gassed a bunch of kids just to do it, bringing back warm memories of seeing tree hugging deviants getting laid out by the boys in blue in the 60s.

the only way trump loses his base is if he loses control and they see him as a soft touch, everything else that has transpired will only solidify the voting lines.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 02, 2020, 08:14:30 AM
He literally didn't say anything, didn't even know how to hold a fucking book, at one point was holding it upside down. The entire point of the propaganda was to let people know he was doing this for propaganda.

It only hit me about an hour ago that he didn't read a passage.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 02, 2020, 08:15:30 AM
*argues for the state to do the job the state exists to perform in the first place.

There have been examples posted online that do appear at first look to be incompetent or needless enforcement on the part of police, yes. Of course, if they were competent there wouldn't be so much burning and destruction this many days later.  So no, simply exercising your right to assemble or your right to speech doesn't ever warrant the use of force against you. 

As soon as you start aggressively violating the rights of others, it's literally their raison d'etre to stop you, though.  And they have to try to stop these people or there's no point in having a state at all.



Reading these pages has been incredibly frustrating and makes me wonder what alien planet you people are from.

hey jay four cops got shot in my city last night how awesome do you think that is
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 02, 2020, 08:19:12 AM
ah no, i've been out there plenty of times. don't get jealous
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 02, 2020, 08:19:37 AM
Not nearly as awesome as if you got shot, fam.

Let's not go there.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 02, 2020, 08:21:58 AM
*argues for the state to do the job the state exists to perform in the first place.

There have been examples posted online that do appear at first look to be incompetent or needless enforcement on the part of police, yes. Of course, if they were competent there wouldn't be so much burning and destruction this many days later.  So no, simply exercising your right to assemble or your right to speech doesn't ever warrant the use of force against you. 

As soon as you start aggressively violating the rights of others, it's literally their raison d'etre to stop you, though.  And they have to try to stop these people or there's no point in having a state at all.



Reading these pages has been incredibly frustrating and makes me wonder what alien planet you people are from.

The use of potentially lethal force is defined by every lawful state as an ultima ratio and thus has to be used proportionally. Shooting rioters armed with bottles and rocks has not once been deemed proportional.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 02, 2020, 08:22:21 AM
Not nearly as awesome as if you got shot, fam.  Unfortunately you only seem to be a keyboard warrior when it comes to thuggery.

First sentence say you want to kill a poster.

Second sentence accuse him of being a "keyboard warrior."
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 08:34:23 AM
I've been watching CNN for the first time in years - or any American news network.  I think I'm starting to understand why America is so fucked up.  You guys need more BBC in your lives.

Eh... didn’t BBC had some big controversies this past decade?

If the BBC spent one day acting as partisan and biased as CNN, that would be their biggest scandal yet and they covered up that their most famous children's' performer was a child rapist for decades.

The same bbc who’s political editor is basically head of Tory PR at this point?

:maduro

Britain is basically a one-party state at this point, so this makes sense. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: naff on June 02, 2020, 08:38:50 AM
guessing jaydubya thinks the unionists and brits should've killed all those pesky catholic nationalists during the troubles too
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 02, 2020, 08:42:06 AM
If you fight back or attempt to get away then the police can use just defensive force to stop you so you can be made to make reparations for the damage you caused, return what you stole, etc.

you're not actually allowed to shoot someone who's running away just cause you believe they committed a property crime
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 08:54:15 AM
BUT ANYWAY: You're Polish/non-American. Like Trashy (and Sage): You should shut the fuck up. :kermit Because the police brutality issue going on in America doesn't affect your day-to-day.

This is wrong.  American politics affects just about everyone in the world in ways that a lot of Americans do not understand or think about. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 02, 2020, 08:58:35 AM
You have the natural human right to liberty

how do we know those rights exist?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 02, 2020, 08:59:10 AM
i wish occam was here to shit on the feeble minded american banana republic bitches :stahp
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 02, 2020, 08:59:54 AM
how do we know those rights exist?


(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/37nwLhIA1zs/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 02, 2020, 09:00:00 AM
The state drugged me to sign the social contract  >:(
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 02, 2020, 09:04:25 AM
https://twitter.com/NewsGuyGreg/status/1267650835636531200

The looting has gone too far.  :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 02, 2020, 09:05:55 AM
READ SETTLERS LEVIATHAN
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 02, 2020, 09:11:41 AM
I'm still  :mindblown at the church photo op. Never have I seen such a completely shameless, worthless, and hollow piece of political theater. All they wanted was to be able to have the pictures for propaganda purposes but the whole world got to see the behind the scenes set up and execution as it happened, they don't give a shit that everyone saw it for what it was in real time, and then they still put out all the pictures and that video like we didn't all just see what was going on and acknowledged it was such bullshit.


He literally didn't say anything, didn't even know how to hold a fucking book, at one point was holding it upside down.

you're not the target audience. those who are are will actually like the fact he tear gassed a bunch of kids just to do it.


But....it didn't make any kind of statement (either literally or in the political messaging sense) of any kind other. There's nothing for even the target audience to get from it because it was entirely hollow.
Trump owned the libs by walking to the church after general barr teargassed them lmao or so the twitter cult of smug claims.

Whatever he did was enough law and order

They now think Trump is more bad ass than Nixon who resigned
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 02, 2020, 09:13:04 AM
Sure beats being a stan for government overreach. What's next? You want to take away freedom of speech?

What's next? A licence to protest in my own damn toaster?!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on June 02, 2020, 09:14:47 AM
*argues for the state to do the job the state exists to perform in the first place.

There have been examples posted online that do appear at first look to be incompetent or needless enforcement on the part of police, yes. Of course, if they were competent there wouldn't be so much burning and destruction this many days later.  So no, simply exercising your right to assemble or your right to speech doesn't ever warrant the use of force against you. 

As soon as you start aggressively violating the rights of others, it's literally their raison d'etre to stop you, though.  And they have to try to stop these people or there's no point in having a state at all.



Reading these pages has been incredibly frustrating and makes me wonder what alien planet you people are from.

The use of potentially lethal force is defined by every lawful state as an ultima ratio and thus has to be used proportionally. Shooting rioters armed with bottles and rocks has not once been deemed proportional.

Let me tell you about a major Western ally called Israel  :kermit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 02, 2020, 09:18:40 AM


Let me tell you about a major Western ally called Israel  :kermit
A lawful state (Rechtsstaat)  is an idealized construct based on the writing of Kant. Almost every real state has tried to justify killing unarmed protesters and rioters.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 02, 2020, 09:23:58 AM
poopoo caca
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 02, 2020, 09:30:00 AM
no reason to debate jay because we all know if it was some of those covid protesters or proud boys getting their ass beat by cops for whatever reason, he'd be on here screeching about government overreach

jay, you don't have to keep going with all this nonsense logic. just say you hate Black people. we can all see it; you don't have to hide bro
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 02, 2020, 09:33:40 AM
poopoo caca

SMH, what about peepee?

peepee is a third way corporate shill :bolo
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 02, 2020, 09:35:29 AM
What about government overreach on personal issues like abortion. Minimalist state,huh? :kermit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 09:39:03 AM
https://7news.com.au/news/north-america/prime-minister-scott-morrison-calls-for-investigation-after-7news-reporter-and-cameraman-assaulted-in-us-riots-c-1074160
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 02, 2020, 09:41:03 AM
jd's posts elide a ton of shit that actually went down and isn't in dispute, mainly force being used by the state against nonviolent protesters who were exercising their right to assemble. folks getting teargassed outside of curfew hours so a political leader can stand in front of a church is pretty hard to shoehorn into a framework of natural rights.

he's left mostly abstracting events so that they fit more comfortably into his worldview, an action which mirrors pretty neatly the simplifications and bowdlerization of human behavior that underpins neoclassical economics
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 02, 2020, 09:42:19 AM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1267808120136511489 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1267808120136511489)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1267811637811187712 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1267811637811187712)
 :riot :maduro
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 02, 2020, 09:45:16 AM
"Words mean things" ?


JayDubya is now an "optics" guy?  2020 is really getting wild.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 02, 2020, 09:45:32 AM
Quote
Thank you President Trump! 

 :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 02, 2020, 09:49:03 AM
Shooting a dude in the head should be a last resort and avoided at all times.
Not like "oh well he came at me with a stolen playstation and a gucci bag so I executed him on the spot"

Quote
Thank you President Trump! 

 :lol
Putin, Assad, Erdogan and Kim have nothing on this guy.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 02, 2020, 09:50:17 AM
iirc jd once called joss whedon a "radical female supremacist" and nobody even reacted to it because it was just grandpa yelling at clouds again
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 02, 2020, 09:50:36 AM
Punished "woke" Nintex
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 09:54:13 AM
https://twitter.com/AlexCTaliadoros/status/1267672002355216389
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: kingv on June 02, 2020, 09:58:27 AM
Sure beats being a stan for government overreach. What's next? You want to take away freedom of speech?

No. You have the natural human right to liberty, more specifically in this case to believe and express the hot garbage that you believe and express - it's the duty of the state to protect that right against aggression, even though you laud aggressive force and have no respect for the rights of others.

It comes down to specific incidents, really.  Whenever it can be demonstrated that the police - through incompetence or bad faith malice - shut down peaceful protest, the police responsible should be punished.  On the other hand, they have an absolute obligation to put down destructive riots and looting.

So what you're saying is you trust the government and want to give them more power especially as far as shutting citizens down.

Cool. Weren't you libertarian? I'm pretty sure you're not.

Jaydubya is just that conservative guy who says provocative shit to get people mad, but doesn’t really have any kind of consistent ideology. It’s completely reflexive to what libtards think at that given moment.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 02, 2020, 10:03:47 AM
they should arrest everyone involved

jd backpedaling from summary executions so we're making progress folks
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 10:05:53 AM
Think every libertarian argument I have ever seen eventually leads to analogies with home invasion. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 10:06:21 AM
https://twitter.com/industrialmonk/status/1267815294526910471
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 02, 2020, 10:09:47 AM
https://twitter.com/LuisSuarez9/status/460872117647835136  :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 02, 2020, 10:11:53 AM
Think every libertarian argument I have ever seen eventually leads to analogies with home invasion. 

What about Age of Consent?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 10:15:58 AM
Think every libertarian argument I have ever seen eventually leads to analogies with home invasion. 

What about Age of Consent?

If you let someone in they are a guest, if you don't they are a criminal.  Doesn't matter how old the child opening the door is. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 10:19:49 AM
Jaydubya is just that conservative guy who says provocative shit to get people mad, but doesn’t really have any kind of consistent ideology. It’s completely reflexive to what college intellectuals think at that given moment.

You believe what you want, but it's really not true.

I have put rather a lot of thought into logical consistency; I've scrutinized and changed my views over the years until I could be satisfied with the resulting framework, and that framework has endured through testing it in debate.  Examples include abandoning orthodox conservative stances on a variety of laws against victimless crimes, or becoming less tolerant of the welfare state in all its forms, including those that a mainstream Republican would tolerate.  And why?  Because I couldn't square those circles anymore - they just didn't fit.

Also, unfortunately I have a strong SOMEONE IS WRONG ON THE INTERNET impulse.  I'm not a provocateur or at least I have no desire to be one; on the contrary, I found reading this thread quite provocative and frustrating.

:dead

I was going to say that you have been posting here for 10 years and not made a single friend, surely there has to be some libertarian forum that will accept you for who you are.  But seems like I got my answer. 


Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 10:23:59 AM
https://twitter.com/davechensky/status/1267699609079443457
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 02, 2020, 10:33:17 AM
“ Being real mad about the conduct of a specific policeman”

Can’t believe y’all let JDub off the hook for this line. I blame Mandark the Coward. WhAt iS PaTtErn ReCoGnItiOn
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 02, 2020, 10:33:41 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/E5xo7TN.jpg)

i always knew this guy was a dumbass but jfc :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 02, 2020, 10:37:50 AM
https://twitter.com/BenjaminPDixon/status/1267822924565643264

messagebore: :titus
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Beezy on June 02, 2020, 10:45:10 AM
https://twitter.com/istudypandas/status/1267494772949696513
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 02, 2020, 10:49:00 AM
I saw Mandark liking a Nintex post and then he revoked it.

COWARD :bolo
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 10:56:15 AM
They didn't stop to listen to the whole song?  This is what fake news looks like. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 02, 2020, 10:56:31 AM
https://twitter.com/amazontrollop/status/1267623083134914563

Clout sharks :stahp

One of the Top 5, here's the other four:

1. Trump
2. Trump Enablers
3. Trump Voters
4. The Dutch
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 02, 2020, 10:58:44 AM
https://twitter.com/amazontrollop/status/1267623083134914563

Clout sharks :stahp

Showing the justaposition of destruction and the enduring beauty of dat ass.

Art ignoramus Esch. :pacspit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 10:58:54 AM
https://twitter.com/Arosebynature/status/1267830751933771781
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 02, 2020, 11:02:02 AM
https://twitter.com/Arosebynature/status/1267830751933771781

When the window is already broken, it is better and safer to remove it entirely. Not putting it beyond them to smash windows themselves, but that is the more likely explanation.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 11:08:42 AM
https://twitter.com/cistemoverride/status/1267171080575127552

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 02, 2020, 11:15:38 AM
Oooooh I get it . Jpg
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 11:22:14 AM
I woke up and found out we shot a cop in the back of the head here in Vegas, RIP protests  :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on June 02, 2020, 11:27:04 AM
After these riots there is a (good) chance Trump will get reelected.

Nothing to change some allies and undecided people into enemies then some "if you are not with us then you are against us and a racist" rhetoric and seeing your country burn.

I'll be the one to agree in a sense: Riots do have a voting affect. There's been studies done on this...

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/06/will-todays-riots-spur-electoral-backlash-like-1967s.html

I however don't agree in the sense that "Trump will win, for sure." I was 80% sure of it when Bernie dropped out (#NoTNoShade) but now? I'm about 60-65% sure. It's iffy only because a lot of folks in America are tired of the police and the system abuse of the police.

Now where I'll agree with you on "Trump will win," is that it depends on white folks. Do they balk at the riots in greater numbers than the ones that agree? Hard to say. They may, but I can't say with any certainty that they do right now.

Will they vote in greater numbers than the other races/PoC/whatever you want to put as a term here? Eh... maybe? Thing is, whites are a declining majority with birthrates/etc. But that point hasn't been reached yet, if research/estimations are holding (IIRC, it's another 4 election cycles away? 2040-2050 or so before the White Majority is a minority in America).

Trump is doing a dismal job, everyone knows it. The question is: Will his voting base turn out to vote him again MORE than the folks that want to get him out. AND know the Electorial College system (aka: Midwest gets bigger votes than NYC/NY state) to beat because "popular vote ain't shit!" like Gore and Clinton should have drilled into the folks head after the previous 20 years that had them lose despite popular vote.

That's where I get my 65% confidence in that: The "rural" states are the ones that generally probably won't see too much brutality. Yeah, Michigan and Minnasota have seen it, but smaller towns generally don't. That's where the question of "is the message hitting?" comes to. Do those rural places that maybe have 1-2 cops seeing them understand that those cops MAY not be as good as they appear? *shrug* Can't say. Depends on if the message sticks until November, 4-5 months away.

BUT ANYWAY: You're Polish/non-American. Like Trashy (and Sage): You should shut the fuck up. :kermit Because the police brutality issue going on in America doesn't affect your day-to-day.
Trump is handling the situation like an absolute bitch.
However bad Biden is as a contender, i can't see these riots helping him [Trump] in the slightest.

That said, regarding the big text: You guys are constantly shoving your ass in everybody's face, so you'll just have to suffer everybody talking about your shit regardless of their qualification.  :piss :usacry :piss2
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 11:31:56 AM
that Italian sprezzatura :delicious
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 02, 2020, 11:32:25 AM
Yeah that’s fine, just expect us to tell you when you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about

ETA: I wish I felt as confident as others itt with regards to Trump’s shot at re-election. There’s still a lot of white ppl on timelines saying these despicable acts need to stop no matter what...
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 11:45:30 AM
I like that in these past 3 pages, Jaydub seems to not want to engage on police departments all over the country beating, pepper spraying, shooting rubber bullets and gas canisters at, as well as throwing flash bang grenades at 100% peaceful protesters and directly targeting members of the media, live on TV, repeatedly, daily for the past week and instead insists the police are just doing their jobs to take care of rioters.




That's because he has put rather a lot of thought into logical consistency; he's scrutinized and changed his views over the years until he could be satisfied with the resulting framework, and that framework has endured through testing it in debate to the point where he doesn't need to engage with people who disagree with him.  He's shaved the corners of those square pegs and made them round and now needs to tell the world of his round solutions, even though he was telling the world of his square ones too when he had those.  Current examples include, the use of force on peaceful demonstrators or becoming more tolerant of state-sanctioned murder and targetting the media.

Also, unfortunately he has a strong SOMEONE IS WRONG ON THE INTERNET impulse and so likes to only come back to Bore after black people die on camera or when citizens unethically ask for better health care; like a cockroach that only comes out when it's dark.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 02, 2020, 11:48:12 AM
So this is a stupid footnote, but a Facebook page about cute animal videos and conservation efforts posted in support of BLM and its wild to me that a group of people brought together by their empathy for animals has such a high prevalence of people who can’t empathize with people of another race, the comments are ww3
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 02, 2020, 11:54:10 AM
After these riots there is a (good) chance Trump will get reelected.

Nothing to change some allies and undecided people into enemies then some "if you are not with us then you are against us and a racist" rhetoric and seeing your country burn.

I'll be the one to agree in a sense: Riots do have a voting affect. There's been studies done on this...

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/06/will-todays-riots-spur-electoral-backlash-like-1967s.html

I however don't agree in the sense that "Trump will win, for sure." I was 80% sure of it when Bernie dropped out (#NoTNoShade) but now? I'm about 60-65% sure. It's iffy only because a lot of folks in America are tired of the police and the system abuse of the police.

Now where I'll agree with you on "Trump will win," is that it depends on white folks. Do they balk at the riots in greater numbers than the ones that agree? Hard to say. They may, but I can't say with any certainty that they do right now.

Will they vote in greater numbers than the other races/PoC/whatever you want to put as a term here? Eh... maybe? Thing is, whites are a declining majority with birthrates/etc. But that point hasn't been reached yet, if research/estimations are holding (IIRC, it's another 4 election cycles away? 2040-2050 or so before the White Majority is a minority in America).

Trump is doing a dismal job, everyone knows it. The question is: Will his voting base turn out to vote him again MORE than the folks that want to get him out. AND know the Electorial College system (aka: Midwest gets bigger votes than NYC/NY state) to beat because "popular vote ain't shit!" like Gore and Clinton should have drilled into the folks head after the previous 20 years that had them lose despite popular vote.

That's where I get my 65% confidence in that: The "rural" states are the ones that generally probably won't see too much brutality. Yeah, Michigan and Minnasota have seen it, but smaller towns generally don't. That's where the question of "is the message hitting?" comes to. Do those rural places that maybe have 1-2 cops seeing them understand that those cops MAY not be as good as they appear? *shrug* Can't say. Depends on if the message sticks until November, 4-5 months away.

BUT ANYWAY: You're Polish/non-American. Like Trashy (and Sage): You should shut the fuck up. :kermit Because the police brutality issue going on in America doesn't affect your day-to-day.
Trump is handling the situation like an absolute bitch.
However bad Biden is as a contender, i can't see these riots helping him [Trump] in the slightest.

That said, regarding the big text: You guys are constantly shoving your ass in everybody's face, so you'll just have to suffer everybody talking about your shit regardless of their qualification.  :piss :usacry :piss2

Sure. But a Polish person living in Europe coming in and going ":smug This is why Europe is better" (when they have the same issues just different) can promptly fuck off.

As for your former point: Yeah, Trump is bungling it. But that doesn't mean shit to his base. That's what a lot of you are missing: Bush absolutely bungled the 9/11 response, and yet he got voted in a second time. I'm on the opinion of "don't underestimate the power of stupid people in America" because 1) it's been proven repeatedly and 2) no matter how bad Trump is, if his base has stuck with him over the past 4 years, they'll stick with him in the election.

So again: It comes down to: Which voting bloc will turn out on the Electorial College map. The "ORANGE MAN BAD" is popular opinion, yes. BUT is it the "electorial" opinion in places that aren't NYC, LA, Miami, Detroit... etc.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on June 02, 2020, 11:57:37 AM
To be clear i'm not saying Trump's already lost.
I'm saying these riots aren't helping him, especially right after/together with the pandemic crisis.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 12:03:00 PM
https://wsvn.com/news/local/fort-lauderdale-police-officer-suspended-after-video-surfaces-showing-pushing-of-kneeling-protester/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EchoRin on June 02, 2020, 12:06:16 PM
Went to check out my surroundings this morning. As I suspected the target on the corner was dinged up. Didn't appear looted, just collateral damage. But front door seemed untouched and all the side windows which would have provided a good "in" were untouched. Strolling to the subway station I was expecting a little more damage cause yesterday is the first time I heard voices of conflict outside my window. I very clear "Get on the ground!" several times at about 9:30 PM. But to my surprise that area appears untouched, so who knows what exactly was going on.

I have a one way street that connects with the main streets on one of the sides of my building and the city has scraped a chunk of it so that people don't use it in the "wrong direction". Did see last night that some cars and cop cars used the "wrong direction" of the street, but I would say in some cases it's because there might have been something up on the left side so the cars would then take a right to not fall into some chaotic situation.

Meanwhile, I went to go look at a larger street a few blocks away from me and that has been untouched. Various precautionary boarding ups. Grocery store there is functioning.

Yesterday things got a little wilder right by me, but all in all still under control.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 02, 2020, 12:12:00 PM
Where is TVC?

https://twitter.com/willmenaker/status/1267689409475948544

😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tasty on June 02, 2020, 12:28:11 PM
I woke up and found out we shot a cop in the back of the head here in Vegas, RIP protests  :doge

How is this gonna impact Bore-con?  :dunno :riot :corona_rodney :lucille
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on June 02, 2020, 12:42:48 PM
https://twitter.com/NBCproducer/status/1267660478811123712


White dudes in Rolls Royce's looting stores.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on June 02, 2020, 12:47:02 PM
Riotous rolling up to the hollowed out Louis Vuitton store, scratching his chin...."No, this burgundy brown will not do."   
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 02, 2020, 01:01:25 PM
Sure. But a Polish person living in Europe coming in and going ":smug This is why Europe is better" (when they have the same issues just different) can promptly fuck off.

Nobody has the symptoms of their problems manifest as severely as america does, but what do you really think can fix your country if your first instinct is to keep falling back to american exceptionalism?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 02, 2020, 01:03:34 PM
Nobody has the symptoms of their problems manifest as severely as america does

sounds like someone highlighting a truly exceptional country  :american
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 02, 2020, 01:05:09 PM
https://twitter.com/amazontrollop/status/1267623083134914563

Clout sharks :stahp

Was that a Karen taking this video?  That large audible gasp  :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 02, 2020, 01:16:56 PM
https://twitter.com/influencersitw/status/1267627931154747392
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 02, 2020, 01:19:40 PM
JD when you go to hell I hope demons eat your guts, tear into to your flesh and you feel every bite for 500 years. I want Satan to personally skull fuck you and have you gorge on his bloody cum that makes your mouth burn past boiling point.

You absolute fuck.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 01:21:53 PM
https://www.ajc.com/news/breaking-news/live-fulton-announces-findings-atlanta-police-excessive-force-case/IwWL0tioOHNAtC29Ad2xGL/

Quote
Fulton County District Attorney Paul Howard on Tuesday announced that six officers face criminal charges after the arrest of two Atlanta college students during the city's curfew crackdown Saturday.

edit:  only fired 2, desk duty 3 and not actually charged :(

edit: nope actually charged - the link was old

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/officers-charged-college-students-pulled-car-71022535
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 01:44:57 PM
hearing his lips smack three ties and that subvocal "aaahhh..." :rofl
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 01:49:04 PM
:dead

https://twitter.com/atRachelGilmore/status/1267840491586039812

Meh.  A pause to think shouldn't be a point of criticizing someone even if it looks awkward as hell.  You might argue that no one should need 20 seconds to think about denouncing what is going on in the US but that blatantly ignores that world leaders of allied counties do not do that and it would be a horrible thing if they did. 

Will say that was an excellently phrased question by the reporter. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on June 02, 2020, 02:03:06 PM
That video was the whitest thing i've ever se..




(https://imgur.com/CwBx7pc.jpg)


:dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 02:12:37 PM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/02/david-mcatee-shooting-lmpd-officer-shooting-had-mocked-protester/5316236002/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 02:13:15 PM
https://twitter.com/kristencheeks/status/1267863993131073537
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 02:14:39 PM
https://twitter.com/nyt_diff/status/1267856039824822280
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on June 02, 2020, 02:15:58 PM
Meghan McCain crying about living in a warzone...

 :lol :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 02:19:28 PM
too cursed. no like
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 02:19:58 PM
(https://i.redd.it/pquf2euuqi251.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 02, 2020, 02:23:35 PM
That's dumb as fuck. Who were the people out there justifying the actions of the Columbine kids or Adam Lanza?

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 02, 2020, 02:24:24 PM
https://twitter.com/Martin_Dempsey/status/1267591325354012672

https://twitter.com/TonyT2Thomas/status/1267558773599744019
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 02:30:09 PM
That's dumb as fuck. Who were the people out there justifying the actions of the Columbine kids or Adam Lanza?

It's not justifying it's about the implicit sympathizing people do with white terrorists and the fact that they accept crushing black rights easily in response to horrific events but refuse to make any kind of change when it comes to their rights.  It's not a comparison of events, its a comparison of responses. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 02:31:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBcPiMVXFX4

this is late-stage capitalism I can get behind.

https://www.wbrz.com/news/nickelodeon-goes-off-air-for-nearly-9-minutes-in-honor-of-george-floyd/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 02, 2020, 02:37:20 PM
jaydub is definitely a true believer working from a loose set of first principles. i dont think he’s just a thoughtless contrarian. more like a thoughtsome contrarian

I like that in these past 3 pages, Jaydub seems to not want to engage on police departments all over the country beating, pepper spraying, shooting rubber bullets and gas canisters at, as well as throwing flash bang grenades at 100% peaceful protesters and directly targeting members of the media, live on TV, repeatedly, daily for the past week and instead insists the police are just doing their jobs to take care of rioters.
i think one decent distinction between right and left is the different criteria they use to accord sympathy -which groups they think are hegemonic and which subaltern.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
for jaydub, the property-holder is somehow the most aggrieved party involved, maybe, and i suspect, because bourgeois respectability is seen as inviolate. it might be inviolate because it’s the only glue adhesing a bunch of purely self-interested individuals who wouldnt otherwise contract to enter a society together if they could avoid it. or it might be because it’s seen as the terminus a quem, our greatest collective achievement, for its own sake. or it might be both. the point is the state only exists for the explicit purpose of safeguarding civil society, and civil society is seen as one big marketplace where every action is some mutual exchange under contract. when you fuck with some property-holder’s deed of ownership (nevermind the legitimacy/fairness of that deed’s initial acquisition), you merit the only kind of violence this system has room for. and the permissiveness wrt the degree of violence, is, i think, explained by the disregard for that ‘glue’ of bourgeois respectability on the part of, e.g., the looter; the looter’s compromised the contract they’re implicitly engaged in, and so forfeit the right to be social, or have things owed them by other people, up to and including life.
[close]
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 02, 2020, 02:39:16 PM
That's dumb as fuck. Who were the people out there justifying the actions of the Columbine kids or Adam Lanza?

It's not justifying it's about the implicit sympathizing people do with white terrorists and the fact that they accept crushing black rights easily in response to horrific events but refuse to make any kind of change when it comes to their rights.

I just want you to show me what "implicit sympathizing" looks like to wrap my head around it.

I can't remember a mass shooter in my lifetime (and there have been 100+ of them) that had any kind of sympathy. Overtly or covertly implied. Unless you're confusing the investigation into their past life as implicit sympathy? But that's just natural curiosity to try to figure out why/how someone got so fucked up. To help determine if there are patterns that we can identify in others and prevent further mass shootings.

 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 02, 2020, 02:42:15 PM
Can we not talk about mass shootings itt until we have to :fbm
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 02, 2020, 02:46:39 PM
Battle Space Force
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 02:51:09 PM
That's dumb as fuck. Who were the people out there justifying the actions of the Columbine kids or Adam Lanza?

It's not justifying it's about the implicit sympathizing people do with white terrorists and the fact that they accept crushing black rights easily in response to horrific events but refuse to make any kind of change when it comes to their rights.

I just want you to show me what "implicit sympathizing" looks like to wrap my head around it.

I can't remember a mass shooter in my lifetime (and there have been 100+ of them) that had any kind of sympathy. Overtly or covertly implied. Unless you're confusing the investigation into their past life as implicit sympathy? But that's just natural curiosity to try to figure out why/how someone got so fucked up. To help determine if there are patterns that we can identify in others and prevent further mass shootings.

 

Ya you're right sympathizing was the wrong word.  Maybe implicitly identifying might be what I'll looking for.  The point I was trying to make, and what I thought the post was made, is that white terrorists still get treated as an ingroup in our reactions to them, which re-reading the tweet was a stretch, though I think the charitable reading. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 02:53:03 PM
when you fuck with some property-holder’s deed of ownership (nevermind the legitimacy/fairness of that deed’s initial acquisition), you merit the only kind of violence this system has room for. and the permissiveness wrt the degree of violence, is, i think, explained by the disregard for that ‘glue’ of bourgeois respectability on the part of, e.g., the looter; the looter’s compromised the contract they’re implicitly engaged in, and so forfeit the right to be social, or have things owed them by other people, up to and including life.
I was watching a lot of Fox News last night and this perfectly describes what I was seeing. Just non-stop coverage of people taking expensive clothes out of SoHo shops, total fixation, utter disbelief. It was like watching a memorial service for a brick and mortar store. Frankly it was quiet alienating.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 02:56:21 PM
https://twitter.com/saywhatagain/status/1267887514666311680
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 02, 2020, 02:58:22 PM
terminus a quem
jesus christ this is so embarrassing. kara forgive me :existential
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 03:08:57 PM
https://twitter.com/kikivonfreaki/status/1267763349393149952

I just love this picture so much. This is the guy that sheltered a bunch of protesters in his home.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 03:09:04 PM
(https://preview.redd.it/v56tmnm0zi251.jpg?width=580&auto=webp&s=a23865026fa463783d0ec3a4bf288e733a863915)

(https://i.imgur.com/tjbm0Un.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 02, 2020, 03:24:24 PM
terminus a quem
jesus christ this is so embarrassing. kara forgive me :existential

A moment of laxity spawns a lifetime of heresy
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 02, 2020, 03:48:16 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/JTS65/status/1267854223531638787

Seriously?   :-\
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 02, 2020, 03:51:16 PM
https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1267848296481128448 (https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1267848296481128448)

tfw Flotus is high af :thinking
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 02, 2020, 04:14:22 PM
Hard to smile when all the water in your body is replaced with Botox.

Or you’re married to Donald Trump.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on June 02, 2020, 04:25:55 PM
https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1267908849446653956
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EchoRin on June 02, 2020, 04:34:51 PM
(https://preview.redd.it/v56tmnm0zi251.jpg?width=580&auto=webp&s=a23865026fa463783d0ec3a4bf288e733a863915)

(https://i.imgur.com/tjbm0Un.jpg)

8:46 and more pressure boys. Prove that you can actually pass the challenge you ignorant embarrassments.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EightBitNate on June 02, 2020, 04:39:11 PM
Go to /r/publicfreakout if you’re trying to get upset
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 02, 2020, 04:50:40 PM
That's dumb as fuck. Who were the people out there justifying the actions of the Columbine kids or Adam Lanza?

Multiple people on my FB feed, including someone in the military, shared memes about how Lanza snapped because he'd been bullied by David Hogg.

Also idk if people were "justifying" the Columbine kids, but there was a very widespread and popular perception of them as bullied loners. Was probably a decade before I found out that wasn't true.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on June 02, 2020, 04:51:13 PM
Go to /r/publicfreakout if you’re trying to get upset

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gvdl01/they_secluded_him_behind_a_wall_and_looked_around/


Wow thanks!  It worked!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on June 02, 2020, 04:54:16 PM
That's dumb as fuck. Who were the people out there justifying the actions of the Columbine kids or Adam Lanza?

Multiple people on my FB feed, including someone in the military, shared memes about how Lanza snapped because he'd been bullied by David Hogg.

Also idk if people were "justifying" the Columbine kids, but there was a very widespread and popular perception of them as bullied loners. Was probably a decade before I found out that wasn't true.

Yeah, I thought the same.  I listened to the multi-part Last Podcast on the Left on Columbine where they refuted the widespread loner narrative that came out of nowhere.  They were the bullies.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 04:57:48 PM
https://twitter.com/willmenaker/status/1267914025431642112

:lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 02, 2020, 05:12:04 PM
JD when you go to hell I hope demons eat your guts, tear into to your flesh and you feel every bite for 500 years. I want Satan to personally skull fuck you and have you gorge on his bloody cum that makes your mouth burn past boiling point.

You absolute fuck.

You're utterly deranged, and over the years you've become an utterly insufferable piece of shit. 

May as well spin the roulette wheel to determine your next personality, where you swear you've actually always been a Buddhist polar bear this whole time, like some kind of MiniTru reject.  Go fuck yourself, and cheers.

Go gargle Satan's magma cum you robotic, demonic piece of shit!! You are a blight on Texas!!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 02, 2020, 05:14:39 PM
https://twitter.com/CoreyRobin/status/1267881284350730248
who nightwatches the nightwatchmen? :brazilcry
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 02, 2020, 05:17:55 PM
I like that jaydubya regularly scolds people for letting their feelings cloud their judgment while consistently being as emotional as anyone who's ever posted on here.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 05:19:38 PM
JayDubya June
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Kestastrophe on June 02, 2020, 05:20:54 PM
(https://m.imgur.com/1e2syBX)
 :trumps
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 02, 2020, 05:23:13 PM
Done with Miniarchist May.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on June 02, 2020, 05:28:03 PM
https://twitter.com/willmenaker/status/1267914025431642112

:lol
How in ruins is New York City, in a scale from "metaphorical ruins of capitalism", to "Neo Tokyo in Akira's ending"?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on June 02, 2020, 05:30:47 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/JTS65/status/1267854223531638787

Seriously?   :-\
People literally ate tide-pods for likes.
This well has no bottom.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 02, 2020, 05:33:37 PM
I was just thinking, best chance to flip jaydubya on this is to explain to him that labor unions are the underlying problem.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 02, 2020, 05:37:31 PM
https://twitter.com/Redskins/status/1267918269798850563
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 05:47:10 PM
Gamers, RISE UP
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on June 02, 2020, 05:56:07 PM
https://twitter.com/dailydigger19/status/1267912737012830210

 :cody

Chaotic Good
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 02, 2020, 05:57:52 PM
https://twitter.com/LILACPhilly/status/1267902077998686208

$4.50 for that rifle is the best I can do.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on June 02, 2020, 05:58:43 PM
https://twitter.com/DNSLgames/status/1267938643034996741
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EchoRin on June 02, 2020, 06:00:54 PM
https://twitter.com/LILACPhilly/status/1267902077998686208

First guy: Call of Duty
Second guy: Modern Warfare
Clerk with giraffean nexk: copy that
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on June 02, 2020, 06:02:19 PM
Okay, it's getting to the point where I'm just senselessly posting chanboard-esque titillation.  Taking a break.   
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 02, 2020, 06:02:57 PM
https://twitter.com/GovTimWalz/status/1267899902039908355

https://twitter.com/GovTimWalz/status/1267899902790635521
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 02, 2020, 06:18:07 PM
smh
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 06:19:45 PM
Shameless.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Coffee Dog on June 02, 2020, 06:21:24 PM
Christ. They know they won't be called on it in any appreciable manner, so whatever goes I guess
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 02, 2020, 06:24:12 PM
Feels like one of those lies that's so blatant it's just a power play: we both know I'm full of shit and we both know you can't do anything about it.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 06:27:09 PM
God damn you 213372bu. That tweet is from April.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 06:30:21 PM
:lol the caller that just said they will find where these fuckers live and run them out of time. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 06:31:12 PM
God damn you 213372bu. That tweet is from April.

That's kind of the point though - they do this all the time and we get like a week to make people care and then it all goes back to the same shit. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 02, 2020, 06:35:07 PM
George W. Bush released a statement and it's... actually not bad.

What's the smallest discrete amount of credit you can begrudge someone?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 02, 2020, 06:41:05 PM
https://twitter.com/MGSchneider76/status/1267927743729209346 (https://twitter.com/MGSchneider76/status/1267927743729209346)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 02, 2020, 06:42:22 PM
Not sure about the rest of the country but today it feels like in DC the protests expanded to more older folks, normies, families, etc.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 06:43:51 PM
Now the callers are threatening their families. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 02, 2020, 06:48:47 PM
yeah trump is an absolute incompetent fuckface asshole, but he still hasn't started a war that killed over a million people. bush is still the worst monster to occupy the white house in our lives.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 06:48:53 PM
holy shit at the dc protests
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 06:51:52 PM
holy shit at the dc protests

which stream you watching?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 02, 2020, 06:55:19 PM
yeah trump is an absolute incompetent fuckface asshole, but he still hasn't started a war that killed over a million people. bush is still the worst monster to occupy the white house in our lives.

Agreed. (http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=47304.msg2843685#msg2843685)

The person I saw tweet the response said it's the difference between whether Dubya should get his own cell in the Hague or have to bunk with some Serbian war criminal.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 02, 2020, 06:56:52 PM
4 minutes until the curfew starts
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 02, 2020, 07:00:02 PM
yeah trump is an absolute incompetent fuckface asshole, but he still hasn't started a war that killed over a million people. bush is still the worst monster to occupy the white house in our lives.

Agreed. (http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=47304.msg2843685#msg2843685)

The person I saw tweet the response said it's the difference between whether Dubya should get his own cell in the Hague or have to bunk with some Serbian war criminal.

Bush being imprisoned in The Hague could lead to a war against the Netherlands, so it's a win either way in my book.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 07:00:02 PM
yeah trump is an absolute incompetent fuckface asshole, but he still hasn't started a war that killed over a million people. bush is still the worst monster to occupy the white house in our lives.

Agreed. (http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=47304.msg2843685#msg2843685)

The person I saw tweet the response said it's the difference between whether Dubya should get his own cell in the Hague or have to bunk with some Serbian war criminal.

You use a spread sheet to organize and tag your past posts for future reference or do you need a database at this point?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 02, 2020, 07:00:11 PM
i think it was the guys over at commonweal (i know, i know) who speculated a month or so back that november was gonna be not just a pulse check on the current administration, but a referendum on the future direction of the gop and american conservatism. as in, to what extent they both get trumpified. with public opinion where it is now and with past conservative bonafides like dubya who have no skin in the game anymore able to coast on that public opinion, the past week feels to me like it’s supercharged the referendum interpretation.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 02, 2020, 07:03:50 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/EQTNr8j.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 02, 2020, 07:05:21 PM
https://twitter.com/aletweetsnews/status/1267953383429865477 (https://twitter.com/aletweetsnews/status/1267953383429865477)

 :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: kingv on June 02, 2020, 07:06:19 PM
Dutch Directness :whew

https://twitter.com/travisakers/status/1267643014966583298

Is that a Zwarte Piet flash mob?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 02, 2020, 07:07:03 PM
George W. Bush released a statement and it's... actually not bad.

What's the smallest discrete amount of credit you can begrudge someone?

half a dap
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 02, 2020, 07:14:55 PM
https://twitter.com/antonialaborde/status/1267957427925921793 (https://twitter.com/antonialaborde/status/1267957427925921793)
Oh dear someone just ripped down a sign and some people started throwing cans

Time to send in the tanks
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 07:15:13 PM
Agreed. (http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=47304.msg2843685#msg2843685)
are you... starting an infinite chain of you high fiving yourself?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Coffee Dog on June 02, 2020, 07:18:32 PM
https://twitter.com/antonialaborde/status/1267957427925921793 (https://twitter.com/antonialaborde/status/1267957427925921793)
Oh dear someone just ripped down a sign and some people started throwing cans

Time to send in the tanks

People flipped out at that dude, screaming PEACEFUL PROTEST, but like, it's just a sign. It's still peaceful. Don't buy into the narrative that a defaced sign is violence, people.  :-\
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 07:47:12 PM
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/louisville-police-release-video-moments-surrounding-fatal-shooting-david-mcatee-n1222366
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 07:53:52 PM
I posted the black square this morning because I didn't want to be the person not posting it, I feel like an idiot :shaq2
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: naff on June 02, 2020, 07:58:40 PM
I posted the black square this morning because I didn't want to be the person not posting it, I feel like an idiot :shaq2

tfw you take performative action out of fear of social reprisal

did u post a link to places to donate? i was going to use this, but also wanted to do more research into whether it was actually a good resource https://blacklivesmatters.carrd.co/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 08:01:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz0CKlGj3uI

LA Police Commission Zoom call about to start up again.  It's cathartic. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 02, 2020, 08:01:37 PM
https://twitter.com/highclassdaddy/status/1267297415670853632

what coulda been if the biden blacks didn't choose a segregationist over a civil rights activist  :kermit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 08:03:25 PM
did u post a link to places to donate?
No because I have no idea who to donate to and everyone in my feed is posting a different set of links
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 02, 2020, 08:28:33 PM
Agreed. (http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=47304.msg2843685#msg2843685)
are you... starting an infinite chain of you high fiving yourself?

I could've kept quoting myself but Masshole Andrex locked his thread.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 08:54:17 PM
Boston cops covering their badges on livestream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xjCaLQYkCY
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 02, 2020, 08:59:42 PM
Hate the person who keeps screaming PERIOD-T with a smug look on her face afterwards on this stream.

(https://i.imgur.com/QhJmU2C.png)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 02, 2020, 09:06:55 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/9m0iRuD.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/4JB25EP.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 09:24:44 PM
https://coloradosun.com/2020/06/02/colorado-police-accountability-bill/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 02, 2020, 09:42:03 PM
https://twitter.com/JesseRodriguez/status/1267981977640198145


"Hey, just so you guys know..."
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 02, 2020, 09:46:12 PM
yeah man, cabinet members are already distancing themselves from the administration to give themselves plausible deniability if they need to jump ship after the general. i can’t imagine internal morale has been great at any point during this administration, but this has gotta be the low point, right?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 02, 2020, 09:47:14 PM
Charlottesville was the previous low point. There was a similar CYA dynamic then.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 09:48:05 PM
And a similar silence from the GOP in general. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 02, 2020, 09:49:31 PM
We're talking about morale within the administration and unfortunately I don't think they were too broken up about PR.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 02, 2020, 09:53:38 PM
i think it was the guys over at commonweal (i know, i know) who speculated a month or so back that november was gonna be not just a pulse check on the current administration, but a referendum on the future direction of the gop and american conservatism. as in, to what extent they both get trumpified. with public opinion where it is now and with past conservative bonafides like dubya who have no skin in the game anymore able to coast on that public opinion, the past week feels to me like it’s supercharged the referendum interpretation.

To answer with a question: how are we defining "Trumpified?"
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 09:58:43 PM
that's probably a good question. I remember people were debating this in 2016 by noting Trump wasn't a conservative but others pointed out that he was comfortably part of a long tradition of boisterous crypto-racist nationalism like Sean Hannity, Phyllis Schlafly, Limbaugh...
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 02, 2020, 10:02:25 PM
Quote from: Wikipedia
Schlafly died of cancer on September 5, 2016, at her home in Ladue, Missouri, at the age of 92, going to the bad place immediately.

:heh
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 02, 2020, 10:07:42 PM
To answer with a question: how are we defining "Trumpified?"
iirc, it was: economic nationalism + explicit white identitarianism.

and im gonna anticipate your response by saying these aren’t exactly characteristics unique to trump and have existed in the gop for decades.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 10:19:48 PM
The protests are starting to look like permitted dissent. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 10:43:49 PM
More principled lolbertarianism
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 02, 2020, 10:44:33 PM
iirc, it was: economic nationalism + explicit white identitarianism.

and im gonna anticipate your response by saying these aren’t exactly characteristics unique to trump and have existed in the gop for decades.

It's a good question.

I think you can reframe it as a tactical question: do you still buy the logic of the Emerging Democratic Majority and the post-2012 GOP autopsy or do you think Trump's win in 2016 was a blueprint? That is, you've got a core of angry white guys who are shrinking as a percent of the population. Do you moderate on substance and/or tone to broaden your base, or do you rely on taking an even larger share of white guys while getting real aggressive on the procedural side of things (gerrymandering, disenfranchisement, NC/WI style shenanigans) to maintain power?

I think the last two Republican campaigns for governor in Virginia work decently as avatars for the two approaches. Ken Cuccinelli had a very right-wing record regarding gay rights, abortion, immigration, climate change, etc. but his campaign (in the wake of Romney's loss) clearly decided they needed to soften his image for the general election and mostly ran ads about how he'd fix traffic. In 2017, after Trump's win, they ran Ed Gillespie, consummate party insider: former high powered lobbyist, RNC chair, GWB advisor. In the primaries he beat out Corey Stewart who campaigned on preserving confederate heritage. In the general Gillespie, the establishment candidate, ran on a Trumpy platform of telling voters that MS-13 were going to invade their homes and kill their families.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: tiesto on June 02, 2020, 10:59:38 PM
Had a rough night (dad died but don't want to hijack the thread). What did I miss? I heard police gassed priests?!

I just caught this now. I am so sorry to hear this. My condolences to you and your family.   :'(
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bluemax on June 02, 2020, 11:07:05 PM
https://twitter.com/Bishop_Krystal/status/1268009974170451968
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 11:09:09 PM
https://www.twitch.tv/woke/

Seattle looks massive
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 11:11:39 PM
https://twitter.com/Unspoke59460709/status/1267957205766230016

WOW
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 11:20:19 PM
https://twitter.com/Ben_Pfeifer_/status/1268001713958449152

Willing to do this for Benji if he puts down his jrubinblogger tweets.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 02, 2020, 11:23:17 PM
I wanted to see Cuty Dave’s reply.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 02, 2020, 11:25:52 PM
I haven't found it yet but

https://twitter.com/AndyLeeParker1/status/1267941871709384704

:dead

edit: nobody took her up on the offer
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 02, 2020, 11:36:11 PM
https://twitter.com/AnyaVolz/status/1267992611849228288
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 02, 2020, 11:56:15 PM
:lol CNN kicked off Terry Cruz for 'breaking news', took a whole minute to thank him and plug his Instagram, then showed 5 seconds of people getting arrested in LA before going to break

:dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 02, 2020, 11:57:13 PM
:lol CNN kicked off Terry Cruz for 'breaking news', took a whole minute to thank him and plug his Instagram, then showed 5 seconds of people getting arrested in LA before going to break

I don't know if this is Ted Cruz or Terry Crews.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 12:02:55 AM
I mean the tall black senator from Texas. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 12:05:01 AM
Also as if Ted Crews feels safe coming out of whatever hole he lives in right now to go on CNN. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 12:05:18 AM
https://twitter.com/Theophite/status/1268012488332726273
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 12:19:37 AM
https://twitter.com/katie_levans/status/1268004903257100302
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 12:30:29 AM
Killed by looters while defending his store
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 12:33:45 AM
https://streamable.com/9zxci3

police shot his phone
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 03, 2020, 12:38:59 AM
Any place I can read up on casualties so far?
Someone put up a list here (https://i.redd.it/0u8c3rjb6h251.jpg).
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on June 03, 2020, 12:42:24 AM
Not nearly as awesome as if you got shot, fam.

Let's not go there.

Since when do mods not deserve to be shot?

The chaos and destruction in these threads from moderation is mass aggressive violence and should be put down with just defensive force, full stop. 

If you don't like the admin-brother sex scandal (d) and Steam keys bribery scandals (d), or any of the other zillion admins responsible for the conduct of its moderator force (again, allll d) and you live there and want to blame them for the moderator's action, then maybe post differently so you don't get the same results.  If you live there and you ban and edit shit though, then your actions are indefensible and should be made to stop by whatever force necessary. 

And that's just as regards the moderators in that forum jurisdiction... Moderators in other places banning and editing don't even have the slightest veneer of sympathy or justification, as if any reasonable justification could be derived from attacking a fourth party because you observed someone victimizing someone else... there is none.  The weakness and ineptitude on display in allowing this moderation to continue is inconceivable and repugnant.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 12:43:52 AM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1268037166946553856

Fox news was Antifa all along. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 03, 2020, 12:46:56 AM
https://streamable.com/9zxci3

police shot his phone

That's crazy accuracy or a sniper dude
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on June 03, 2020, 12:50:41 AM
produced Chinatown, trafficked cocaine, died last year
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 03, 2020, 01:02:25 AM
Between the helicopter intimidation and that parking garage video I just realized the protests have morphed into a perverse circus act. Every night the police lead the protestors exactly where they want them and amuse themselves with their suffering. Spontaneous acts of violence. That guy getting a canister straight to the face. Trapping them on bridges and highways and tear gassing them for no reason. It's all just sick entertainment. At the behest of the media protesters have completely disciplined themselves not to defend themselves or do anything. They dance. We watch.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: remy on June 03, 2020, 01:02:37 AM
I already hated cops due to only ever having shitty negative experiences with them, but after all this fucking brutality, can any sane regular person look at the police force and think they're there to protect and not oppress?  :doge

pls send me literature about how bullshit cops are.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: naff on June 03, 2020, 01:05:14 AM
man, this good vibes looting is making me want to play some D3

https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/gvgl22/leaving_your_car_in_traffic_so_you_can_steal_some/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 01:07:20 AM
Between the helicopter intimidation and that parking garage video I just realized the protests have morphed into a perverse circus act. Every night the police lead the protestors exactly where they want them and amuse themselves with their suffering. Spontaneous acts of violence. That guy getting a canister straight to the face. Trapping them on bridges and highways and tear gassing them for no reason. It's all just sick entertainment. At the behest of the media protesters have completely disciplined themselves not to defend themselves or do anything. They dance. We watch.

This is what I meant when I said it has become permitted dissent.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 03, 2020, 01:07:24 AM
pls send me literature about how bullshit cops are.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FG9vQk0eEM
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: remy on June 03, 2020, 01:07:32 AM
man, this good vibes looting is making me want to play some D3

https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/gvgl22/leaving_your_car_in_traffic_so_you_can_steal_some/
getting legendary boots from a footlocker :rash
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 03, 2020, 01:09:43 AM
Between the helicopter intimidation and that parking garage video I just realized the protests have morphed into a perverse circus act. Every night the police lead the protestors exactly where they want them and amuse themselves with their suffering. Spontaneous acts of violence. That guy getting a canister straight to the face. Trapping them on bridges and highways and tear gassing them for no reason. It's all just sick entertainment. At the behest of the media protesters have completely disciplined themselves not to defend themselves or do anything. They dance. We watch.
it’s like everyone’s forgotten what stakes are. the most important political event in 10 years and it’s all just spectacle
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 03, 2020, 01:10:33 AM
I already hated cops due to only ever having shitty negative experiences with them, but after all this fucking brutality, can any sane regular person look at the police force and think they're there to protect and not oppress?  :doge

pls send me literature about how bullshit cops are.
http://www.azioni.nl/platform/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Foucault-Security-Territory-Population.pdf
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: naff on June 03, 2020, 01:10:53 AM
man, this good vibes looting is making me want to play some D3

https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/gvgl22/leaving_your_car_in_traffic_so_you_can_steal_some/
getting legendary boots from a footlocker :rash

if jaydubya got in my way i would happily give him a wedgie
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 03, 2020, 01:11:57 AM
it’s like everyone’s forgotten what stakes are. the most important political event in 10 years and it’s all just spectacle
I feel like the American public is at its core just one big captive audience. We watch everything and do nothing. Especially me, as a forums poster. #BlackoutTuesday
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 03, 2020, 01:16:56 AM
Between the helicopter intimidation and that parking garage video I just realized the protests have morphed into a perverse circus act. Every night the police lead the protestors exactly where they want them and amuse themselves with their suffering. Spontaneous acts of violence. That guy getting a canister straight to the face. Trapping them on bridges and highways and tear gassing them for no reason. It's all just sick entertainment. At the behest of the media protesters have completely disciplined themselves not to defend themselves or do anything. They dance. We watch.
it’s like everyone’s forgotten what stakes are. the most important political event in 10 years and it’s all just spectacle

What do you guys think could be accomplished with the right tactics and how?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 03, 2020, 01:19:14 AM
Between the helicopter intimidation and that parking garage video I just realized the protests have morphed into a perverse circus act. Every night the police lead the protestors exactly where they want them and amuse themselves with their suffering. Spontaneous acts of violence. That guy getting a canister straight to the face. Trapping them on bridges and highways and tear gassing them for no reason. It's all just sick entertainment. At the behest of the media protesters have completely disciplined themselves not to defend themselves or do anything. They dance. We watch.
it’s like everyone’s forgotten what stakes are. the most important political event in 10 years and it’s all just spectacle

What do you guys think could be accomplished with the right tactics and how?
:maduro
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 01:20:04 AM
Months of violent protests leading into the election would undo the law and order strategy for a start. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 03, 2020, 01:23:24 AM
https://twitter.com/jennineak/status/1268047698373955584

 :shaking
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on June 03, 2020, 01:27:23 AM
https://twitter.com/jennineak/status/1268047698373955584

 :shaking

:rofl
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 03, 2020, 01:34:39 AM
What do you guys think could be accomplished with the right tactics and how?
I think you already know that criminal justice reform has been my pet issue for five years now so I'm big on the basic electoral stuff. Not enough people vote. Not enough people make specific, actionable demands. The existing movement is already good, it just falls into unpredictable snags like New Yorkers bringing back cash bail after a concerted disinformation campaign.

But violence is also a legitimate strategy when you're being murdered by the state. They did it right in Minneapolis (not the looting, I mean burning cop cars). The police murdered somebody and they burned down two precincts. That's a sustained and credible threat. "If you don't police us right, you won't police us at all." It worked because there were consequences. That's what Jake means by stakes. Going out there and finding a line of cops to scream at doesn't do anything. Volunteering to be a punching bag for some meatbrained sociopath doesn't do anything except prove what everyone already knows.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 03, 2020, 01:38:27 AM
So the win condition is something like the municipal leadership breaking the police union because that's the better choice than sustained rioting and property damage?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 03, 2020, 01:45:35 AM
Carry an UNO Reverse card with you, so you can pull it out like a soccer ref.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 03, 2020, 01:52:19 AM
So the win condition is something like the municipal leadership breaking the police union because that's the better choice than sustained rioting and property damage?
Thinking a few steps ahead in the conversation here: are you asking me if hostage taking has political legitimacy? It obviously doesn't! But my assertion is that minorities have the moral right to defend themselves and the majority can decide if that grievance is just or not.

black man murdered -> police station burned -> leadership: "Are we really going to bring in the military police? Or would we rather announce investigations and reforms?" The majority can grapple with this question and it may very well find that it has been unjust and change course. The violence gives society an opportunity to make a judgment when it might have just gone ignored forever.

I'm not saying there's no role for nonviolent protest. It raises awareness and it shows political leadership that there are numbers behind the demands. I'm just saying that protesting is fundamentally best used as a precursor to either organized voting or organized insurrection - it is not useful in itself and it is severely limited.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 03, 2020, 01:52:27 AM
https://twitter.com/SpikeFriedman/status/1267966207904247809

Every day is curfew
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on June 03, 2020, 01:53:43 AM
If I'm about to be arrested by the police can I pull a citizen's arrest before they can get the cuffs on me and arrest them?
sigh if only :heart
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on June 03, 2020, 02:02:25 AM
He's saying you should carry the... :teehee :teehee :teehee RED UNO Reverse card
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 03, 2020, 02:05:33 AM
Thinking a few steps ahead in the conversation here: are you asking me if hostage taking has political legitimacy?

Nope, completely uninterested in legitimacy or morality.

What I'm trying to suss out is the... (Eric Garland voice) game theory.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 03, 2020, 02:08:38 AM
I was just trying to avoid a pretty easy gotcha where I say one group of terrorists commits violence until they get the reforms they want but then another group of terrorists commits violence until the reforms are undone and then you tell me we should just stick to democracy and avoid the civil war
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 03, 2020, 02:15:44 AM
A wave of reactionary violence does seem like quite the pickle.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 03, 2020, 02:20:37 AM
(https://pics.me.me/its-over-i-have-the-moral-high-ground-31488544.png)

this may or may not work
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 03, 2020, 02:23:33 AM
*holds up UNO Reverse card*
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on June 03, 2020, 02:25:19 AM
We should try breaking the police unions. Just to see what changes. If it goes poorly for police we can always not ever bring them back.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on June 03, 2020, 02:32:01 AM
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1268042240296914944
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 03, 2020, 02:36:35 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/ZkrLPU9.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Coffee Dog on June 03, 2020, 02:44:37 AM
They have these people corralled..I rarely react so viscerally to the news. But Christ, it's so perverse. I know striking back would make things worse given they're outgunned. I just don't know how I can square my worldview with the dignity of these people being torn away in front of an audience.

I have to put my hope in state level reps, I guess.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 03, 2020, 03:04:39 AM
Between the helicopter intimidation and that parking garage video I just realized the protests have morphed into a perverse circus act. Every night the police lead the protestors exactly where they want them and amuse themselves with their suffering. Spontaneous acts of violence. That guy getting a canister straight to the face. Trapping them on bridges and highways and tear gassing them for no reason. It's all just sick entertainment. At the behest of the media protesters have completely disciplined themselves not to defend themselves or do anything. They dance. We watch.

black man murdered -> police station burned -> leadership: "Are we really going to bring in the military police? Or would we rather announce investigations and reforms?" The majority can grapple with this question and it may very well find that it has been unjust and change course. The violence gives society an opportunity to make a judgment when it might have just gone ignored forever.

If your strategy hinges on political leaders being spurred to action and the majority of those leaders' constituencies being sympathetic to your cause, getting unjustly clobbered by the police in front of a camera seems like one of the most useful things someone could do. Especially for white protesters, obv.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 03, 2020, 03:05:02 AM
https://twitter.com/Raiders/status/1267311255372562437

https://twitter.com/Raiders/status/1268068700411752449

 :pacspit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on June 03, 2020, 03:07:53 AM
https://twitter.com/jennineak/status/1268047698373955584

 :shaking
https://twitter.com/jennineak/status/1266985666291752964

 :leon
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 03, 2020, 04:03:00 AM
:maduro
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 03, 2020, 04:26:35 AM
https://twitter.com/SamuelSokol/status/1267865247551033345

 :curious
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 03, 2020, 05:31:44 AM
https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1268106441837080577

yum! brotherhood  :P
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 03, 2020, 05:49:21 AM
https://twitter.com/BRedLove/status/1268109425757368320

https://twitter.com/BRedLove/status/1268110679078101000


 :fbm

https://twitter.com/alexhgm/status/1268123068578230273

https://twitter.com/chanelboi1/status/1268128627742461952

 :salute
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: naff on June 03, 2020, 07:32:18 AM
https://twitter.com/chanelboi1/status/1268128627742461952

 :salute

 :lol  :heartbeat

 :nope meme magic

 :ohyeah k-pop stans
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 03, 2020, 07:58:59 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/slP1Sv9.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 03, 2020, 08:04:38 AM
I will never be memed! :killme
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 03, 2020, 08:06:11 AM
the memetrix has you  8)

(https://i.imgur.com/2Gvj5Ov.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/0GR9NOb.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 03, 2020, 08:09:21 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/slP1Sv9.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/Zq3ZxIz.jpg)


#canceldoja
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 03, 2020, 08:11:38 AM
Meme me one more time and I’ll tell on you :karen
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 03, 2020, 08:13:04 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/QdDSv36.jpg)

 :birb
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 03, 2020, 08:17:03 AM
https://twitter.com/23rdButterfly/status/1267986452471787523
 :brock2
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 03, 2020, 08:20:15 AM
K-pop stans have no chill:

https://twitter.com/Aleikats/status/1268120422752518145

https://twitter.com/verge/status/1268121444837396482

https://twitter.com/mckenzieas93V2/status/1268152047204958208

https://twitter.com/SimplyAnt7/status/1268141264551260160

K-pop stans are the 2020 Anonymous? :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 03, 2020, 08:29:34 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/AhTTqa5.jpg) ;)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EchoRin on June 03, 2020, 08:35:59 AM
Well last night was the quietest around me. Seems like the neighborhood destruction is coming to an end slowly.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 03, 2020, 09:25:19 AM
https://twitter.com/23rdButterfly/status/1267986452471787523
 :brock2

the fuck you won't be on record because he yielded his time before it.

smh
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 09:29:49 AM
Those were even better when they gave them a minute to talk, but they changed it to 30 seconds after they came back from break.  One caller googled the names of one the guy's family members and just listed them.  The idea of having a community forum go to zoom and then have the callers be mostly anonymous was a pretty insane one. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Akala on June 03, 2020, 09:32:30 AM
when I got up this morning I didn't expect to be proud of kpop and sonic fans.  :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 09:40:03 AM
I do feel like a lot has changed in terms of protest tactics due to social media though, and something that makes it different from hong kong.  The fact that all it takes is one protestor to film something like this and not require a news crew there to witness it and then have it get picked up by the media later makes it a lot harder for police to use force - at least in the daylight.  At least I don't remember the hail of news stores about Twitter posts in past riots or protests. 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/protester-knelt-down-to-tell-police-he-loves-and-respects-them-they-threw-him-in-jail-charleston-south-carolina/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=90008340
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 09:50:32 AM
The Australians are pissed

https://7news.com.au/sunrise/on-the-show/sunrise-reporter-amelia-brace-speaks-after-terrifying-on-air-police-assualt-c-1075321

They are also pretty angry.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 09:53:47 AM
https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/antifa-trump-fbi/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 03, 2020, 10:02:32 AM
https://twitter.com/PharaohOW/status/1267971186295799811
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 03, 2020, 10:04:08 AM
https://twitter.com/GamepIay/status/1267904069340889098
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 03, 2020, 10:09:17 AM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1268167419132084230

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkMWsO_-X7Y
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 03, 2020, 10:12:55 AM
https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1267995719660720128
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 03, 2020, 10:29:23 AM
"abuse of power by the protesters"

lol

fucking cruz man
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: zomgee on June 03, 2020, 10:30:48 AM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1268167419132084230


Abraham Lincoln is to the Republican party what a Baltimore Ravens Superbowl Ring is to the Cleveland Browns.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 10:30:56 AM
Wait it's 'cruz'?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 03, 2020, 10:42:30 AM
https://twitter.com/JDiamond1/status/1268182597403885571

I guess the active duty personnel are telling them to go fuck themselves.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 03, 2020, 11:10:58 AM
https://twitter.com/SharkParsons/status/1268183246371729409

Tfw when the national guard stops telling the civilian leadership what they're doing because the civilian leadership isn't actually in control anymore :heh
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 11:24:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9drJy2Eohh0

:dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: who is ted danson? on June 03, 2020, 11:31:57 AM
Quote from: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-defence-secretary-st-johns-church-mark-esper-a9545881.html
Defence secretary Mark Esper believed Donald Trump was leading White House officials to view a damaged toilet when the president posed outside St. John’s Episcopal Church in actions that were condemned.

Mr Esper has said that he walked with the US president on Monday through Lafayette Park because he wanted to talk to troops, and observe a vandalised toilet.

 :dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 03, 2020, 11:36:49 AM
Quote from: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-defence-secretary-st-johns-church-mark-esper-a9545881.html
Defence secretary Mark Esper believed Donald Trump was leading White House officials to view a damaged toilet

 :maduro
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 11:53:38 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z56j06plUgs
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 03, 2020, 11:56:01 AM
those boyega gloves are me go :thinking

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 03, 2020, 11:56:14 AM
https://twitter.com/UnrigLA/status/1267979285156868097
https://twitter.com/KTLA/status/1267989258628853760

Garcetti blows.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 11:57:35 AM
Think police uniforms should just be one big QR code at this point. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 03, 2020, 12:02:02 PM
Pick up the can.

https://twitter.com/neet_telemachus/status/1267968529543954432

same energy
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwzrE6qWEAAqOhy.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 03, 2020, 12:06:11 PM
https://twitter.com/soquietly/status/1268207397799030785

Thinks coronavirus isn't real, gets mad at George Floyd. Checks out.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Rufus on June 03, 2020, 12:21:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z56j06plUgs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z56j06plUgs)
"Where are all those 2A supporters who were so vocal just a couple of weeks ago, and who are so silent now, when you were asking for a tyrannical government to fight against? Well, now's your chance. If you think the 2A is more important than the 1A, I feel sorry for you. And I think that you should come to the conclusion that your fantasy of being a good guy with a gun fighting a tyrannical government is just that: it's just a fantasy."

"And where are all those folks who claim to care about law and order? (...) If you care about a rule of law that applies to everyone, you ought to be appalled at what happened last night."

:whoo
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: tiesto on June 03, 2020, 12:29:42 PM
https://www.thedailybeast.com/even-medical-workers-fighting-covid-say-cops-are-attacking-them-at-george-floyd-protests?fbclid=IwAR34pmkyY5ccs3J6vyUTmao-pONLQLz_theUebq3MQ3IKrYD4bnI6e31_IQ (https://www.thedailybeast.com/even-medical-workers-fighting-covid-say-cops-are-attacking-them-at-george-floyd-protests?fbclid=IwAR34pmkyY5ccs3J6vyUTmao-pONLQLz_theUebq3MQ3IKrYD4bnI6e31_IQ)

(https://img.thedailybeast.com/image/upload/c_crop,d_placeholder_euli9k,h_1686,w_3000,x_0,y_0/dpr_1.5/c_limit,w_1044/fl_lossy,q_auto/v1591121639/200602-messer-medics-tease_g0blad)
Quote
Twenty minutes after leaving his job at a Brooklyn hospital on Saturday night, 32-year-old Rayne Valentine was lying in the fetal position on the sidewalk.

He’d been beaten and kicked by New York police officers, his hospital ID smeared with his own blood, he told The Daily Beast.

Valentine, a Marine veteran who worked as a chef before the pandemic hit the restaurant industry, got a job in March at Kings County Hospital Center. He has spent the past several months moving medicine and patients around the facility, as well as piling hundreds of dead bodies—many of them COVID-19 victims—into refrigerated morgue trucks.

(more at the link)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 03, 2020, 12:34:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z56j06plUgs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z56j06plUgs)
"Where are all those 2A supporters who were so vocal just a couple of weeks ago, and who are so silent now, when you were asking for a tyrannical government to fight against? Well, now's your chance. If you think the 2A is more important than the 1A, I feel sorry for you. And I think that you should come to the conclusion that your fantasy of being a good guy with a gun fighting a tyrannical government is just that: it's just a fantasy."

"And where are all those folks who claim to care about law and order? (...) If you care about a rule of law that applies to everyone, you ought to be appalled at what happened last night."

:whoo


Nah, those people are the ones laughing and slapping each other on the back over a 21-year-old protester having his eyeball burst by a tear gas canister.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 03, 2020, 12:39:20 PM
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1267992145463394305

 :what
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 03, 2020, 12:44:22 PM
 :brock2
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pennywise on June 03, 2020, 12:53:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8DQlqemkcQ

The Running Man sequence doesn't seem so out of place.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 01:07:29 PM
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/3-prince-georges-county-officers-suspended-after-video-shows-alleged-police-brutality-incident
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 03, 2020, 01:12:05 PM
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1267992145463394305

 :what
Deepfake state forgot to use the Trump avatar  :dizzy
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 01:12:22 PM
https://twitter.com/GadiNBC/status/1267988140884496385

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyDVYriZB9Y
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 01:14:09 PM
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-minneapolis-police-poll-exclusive/exclusive-most-americans-sympathize-with-protests-disapprove-of-trumps-response-reuters-ipsos-idUSKBN239347?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=twitter&__twitter_impression=true&utm_source=reddit.com
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 03, 2020, 01:27:11 PM
https://twitter.com/The_Real_Fly/status/1268054038744125440
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 03, 2020, 01:28:26 PM
that was a real wtf moment
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 03, 2020, 01:51:34 PM
These piles of brick conspiracies are fucking killing me. Ban Home Depot



https://twitter.com/jscros/status/1268194978666352642

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/889g8a/nypd-claims-looters-put-bricks-at-a-brooklyn-corner-miles-from-any-protest
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 03, 2020, 01:54:00 PM
https://twitter.com/lib_crusher/status/1268184981869940738
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 03, 2020, 01:56:30 PM
https://twitter.com/StarTribune/status/1268238841749606400

Better
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 03, 2020, 01:56:33 PM
https://twitter.com/The_Real_Fly/status/1268054038744125440
The Trump troops are making Richard Nixon look like a hippie  :whew

The penalty for jaywalking is d e a t h
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 02:01:22 PM
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1268235924787335171

:lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 03, 2020, 02:01:28 PM
If these curfews and riots go on too long, then these cops will get addicted to the overtime pay. We better put a cap on it like we did UI benefits.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 02:03:17 PM
https://twitter.com/justinboldaji/status/1266940031374995459
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 03, 2020, 02:09:41 PM
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1268235924787335171

:lol

Military people like "yeah nah, do you do brahs"
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 03, 2020, 02:10:19 PM
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1268235924787335171

:lol
Even the military dictatorship is on brand  :trumps
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 02:25:46 PM
https://twitter.com/MplsWard3/status/1267891869691850754

thread
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Akala on June 03, 2020, 02:32:00 PM
 :respect
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 02:34:25 PM
Think this is good timing for this since major protests are being planned for the weekend, so I don't think the news right now will cause a decrease in protests. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 03, 2020, 02:40:57 PM
https://twitter.com/LAist/status/1268247419633926146

9PM curfew for L.A. county tonight.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 03, 2020, 02:41:31 PM
https://twitter.com/ajplus/status/1267914632573775873

no worries bro we forgive you
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 02:45:07 PM


e: dammit. Here have a different one

https://twitter.com/idontposttoes/status/1268218405020069888

I am honestly pissed that more people are not talking about the badge covers and buying the solidarity reason.  This is the kind of dog whistle behavior that lets they fuckers think they can do what they want without consequence. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 03, 2020, 02:46:08 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/JHtnoLX.png)
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/619/416/01a.gifv)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 02:46:10 PM
https://twitter.com/ajplus/status/1267914632573775873

no worries bro we forgive you

I believe he fucked up and didn't mean to drive into the protest. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 03, 2020, 02:47:31 PM
He SPED UP and then hit the brakes just as he was about to crash into people!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 02:52:29 PM
He SPED UP and then hit the brakes just as he was about to crash into people!

I don't see that.
https://www.facebook.com/charlie.nolan.524/videos/10220059895466545/

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 03, 2020, 02:54:12 PM
Madrun is a bbc loving centrist

:piss :cancry :piss2
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 02:56:34 PM
Thank you for acknowledging my privilege.  I have it good and think you should all just have it as good as I do to.  I don't see the problem with that. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 02:58:20 PM
What about the textssssss?

I have written things like that on here and with friends like every day as long as I have been using digital communication.  Seriously if I almost ever kill dozens of people, I'm going to look pretty bad. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 03, 2020, 03:03:53 PM
(https://i.redd.it/fr80n49r4q251.png)

I don't think it's going to happen but it's fuckin crazy that this is where the conversation is at :leon literally inconceivable just a couple of weeks ago
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 03:08:21 PM
(https://i.redd.it/fr80n49r4q251.png)

I don't think it's going to happen but it's fuckin crazy that this is where the conversation is at :leon literally inconceivable just a couple of weeks ago

The whole twitter thread was great.  It's really the conversation I feel that has been missing the last few days with all the lip service to institutional racism and structural change. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 03, 2020, 03:12:37 PM
twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1268204977765392386
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1268257260863700994

 :cmonson
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 03:15:22 PM
While we are talking about criminal reform, we should change the standard for lepering from recklessness to willfulness for posters who post wank dads in other threads.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 03, 2020, 03:15:24 PM
I think it's time to change the title to "The world is burning"
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 03, 2020, 03:16:37 PM
https://twitter.com/tim_bays/status/1268241115804655617

I only took two classes on American criminal law, but doesn’t a second degree murder charge require a degree of  premediation and intent proven beyond reasonable doubt? If anything that increases his chances of getting acquitted.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 03:17:31 PM
https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1268204977765392386

Needs something about not rehiring fired officers but great otherwise. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 03, 2020, 03:18:24 PM
lmao

https://twitter.com/BarstoolNewsN/status/1268216828242821121 (https://twitter.com/BarstoolNewsN/status/1268216828242821121)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 03, 2020, 03:18:42 PM
Yeah upping the charges seems like a dumb idea, I know that they want a heavier charge so they're in Jail longer, but second degree will most likely get thrown out and he'll just get manslaughter.

Then riots will start again....
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 03:19:18 PM
https://twitter.com/tim_bays/status/1268241115804655617

I only took two classes on American criminal law, but doesn’t a second degree murder charge require a degree of  premediation and intent proven beyond reasonable doubt? If anything that increases his chances of getting acquitted.

Not in Minisoda, second degree doesn't require pre-med only an equivalent bachelors. 

https://openargs.com/bonus-george-floyd-and-policing-the-police/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 03, 2020, 03:28:17 PM
(https://i.redd.it/fr80n49r4q251.png)

I don't think it's going to happen but it's fuckin crazy that this is where the conversation is at :leon literally inconceivable just a couple of weeks ago

Link to Twitter thread. God I hate Twitter pics and not thread links.

https://twitter.com/MplsWard3/status/1267891892722831361
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 03:34:57 PM
I posted it above and no one read it and I got no likes.  Really starting to understand how Nintex feels.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 03:36:44 PM
I think most of the news today has been really encouraging. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Coffee Dog on June 03, 2020, 03:39:01 PM
I think most of the news today has been really encouraging.

Yeah, it's a bright spot for sure. I didn't think the other officers would get charged.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Akala on June 03, 2020, 03:42:30 PM
but how many will be convicted?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 03, 2020, 03:45:13 PM
Don't Shonda will come in and try make a bet with you, then post that racist "ironic" riddler meme again. Also is it true police in certain states make 100K + that is CRAZY
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 03:49:43 PM
I hate the arguments about cops being paid highly - they should be.  Policing needs to change and sure instinctively I hate the idea that these people get paid a lot of money to crack skulls, cover their badges, and throw white power signs, but its not really the being paid a lot that is the problem there. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 03, 2020, 03:56:33 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/GeorgeTakei/status/1267887416783900674
:takei
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 03:59:38 PM
Yeah upping the charges seems like a dumb idea, I know that they want a heavier charge so they're in Jail longer, but second degree will most likely get thrown out and he'll just get manslaughter.

Then riots will start again....

http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/High-Profile-Cases/27-CR-20-12646/AmendedComplaint06032020.pdf

They can include murder 3 as a second count.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 03, 2020, 04:11:12 PM
https://twitter.com/devolverdigital/status/1267877063614255107

https://twitter.com/SquareEnix/status/1267927872066314240

:preach
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 04:22:18 PM
Watch the next FF have a big-lipped watermelon eating black beret and sunglass-wearing secondary character as a show of solidarity. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 03, 2020, 04:47:38 PM
"We at Square-Enix are proud to show our support by finally re-releasing our classic Tom Sawyer NES game (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square%27s_Tom_Sawyer) free to play on Nintendo's Switch Online service"
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 03, 2020, 04:49:48 PM
yikes
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 03, 2020, 05:01:09 PM
If I had to guess, they're the Justice Department agency with the man-power to do it but which is also the least likely to offer any real push-back.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 03, 2020, 05:06:00 PM
The DEA's "interim" head is a Trump loyalist (he's the lawyer who signed off on withdrawing the Flynn charges), the FBI is run by Christopher Wray who Trump's had problems with.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 05:10:35 PM
Obama's thing starting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_qB6SsErpA
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 03, 2020, 05:11:51 PM
Man, remember the Beer Summit?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 03, 2020, 05:14:14 PM
https://twitter.com/Jose_Pagliery/status/1268269855762976770
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 05:14:25 PM
no
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 03, 2020, 05:16:34 PM
Man, remember the Beer Summit?

That's probably what started all these riots tbh, lbr.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 05:24:35 PM
https://apnews.com/e0e783dcbb316887f4fac5a4dbe92563

Troops staying
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 03, 2020, 05:25:32 PM
https://apnews.com/e0e783dcbb316887f4fac5a4dbe92563

Troops staying

What a clusterfuck
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: toku on June 03, 2020, 05:29:21 PM
https://twitter.com/ryanmkj/status/1268195352710168577

 :dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 03, 2020, 05:33:25 PM
Please someone change daughters to filler via photoshop
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 03, 2020, 05:34:08 PM
love my liberal newspaper :salute

We need order on these streets yesterday.

(https://i.imgur.com/NrMASjK_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high)

I also love my liberal newspaper :salute

It's great to have such a press that offers such a wide variety of viewpoints to accommodate the full spectrum of American politics.

(https://i.imgur.com/O2zUa1D.png)

I too like to judge the press based off opinion section articles I disagree with. It's all FAKE NEWS in the end.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 05:58:18 PM
Obama should have been leading the conversations with these guys so that people would have kept listening. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 03, 2020, 06:00:27 PM
https://apnews.com/e0e783dcbb316887f4fac5a4dbe92563

Troops staying
Imagine these mofo's organizing an actual foreign war lmao
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 03, 2020, 06:03:55 PM
Obama should have been leading the conversations with these guys so that people would have kept listening. 

thanks obama
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 06:06:51 PM
(https://external-preview.redd.it/kBBJ58fEYPZBXweg4NUzq2anYUwBkjMD7jP6vnUQMrA.jpg?width=905&auto=webp&s=45d7301cba9bc1416c11375e5913d910cd960bef)

From a Halifax paper
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 06:09:37 PM
Just realized that if this goes on long enough, states might use a second wave as an excuse to shut it down.  That would be the most 2020 thing yet.   
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 03, 2020, 06:11:26 PM
https://twitter.com/duckvalentine/status/1268300235547148290

Now if only Activision would back-trace it to all the other CoD's... :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 03, 2020, 06:12:47 PM
Being called ethnic slurs by 12 year olds is an integral part of the CoD experience  :maf
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 03, 2020, 06:13:11 PM
https://twitter.com/duckvalentine/status/1268300235547148290

Now if only Activision would back-trace it to all the other CoD's... :doge

stop protesting! come play the vidjas!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 03, 2020, 06:13:39 PM
Just realized that if this goes on long enough, states might use a second wave as an excuse to shut it down.  That would be the most 2020 thing yet.   

"We had the virus beaten until those protests" is absolutely going to be a talking point, despite still hovering around a thousand deaths a day.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 03, 2020, 06:14:23 PM
Being called ethnic slurs by 12 year olds is an integral part of the CoD experience  :maf

Not having a Nazi Emblem... OH I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT THIS WAS AN AMERICAN GAME. :salute
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 03, 2020, 06:14:34 PM
https://twitter.com/ComplexSports/status/1268240699356520448

 :camby
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 03, 2020, 06:19:14 PM
Being called ethnic slurs by 12 year olds is an integral part of the CoD experience  :maf

Not having a Nazi Emblem... OH I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT THIS WAS AN AMERICAN GAME. :salute

Speaking of Nazis, I always scoff at these lazy angry PSN/XBL messages when someone just writes Heil Hitler or fucking nazi.

When I received a message that said something  to the tune of: I will come to your house, burn it down, rape your sister and shoot your dog like the Red Army you nazi scum,, I know that I am at least dealing with someone who takes his craft seriously.

I wish I had screencapped that 10 years or so ago. :stahp
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 06:21:44 PM
Thanks.  I try.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 03, 2020, 06:28:20 PM
You're just making me miss glen even more.

Ranked FIFA brings out the inner glen in us all.

Seriously, nothing makes people angrier than FIFA.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 06:29:18 PM
https://twitter.com/michelle_menes/status/1267704125334028288

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/man-arrested-after-pulling-rifle-on-black-lives-matter-protesters-in-upland


This is what terrorism looks like.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 03, 2020, 06:31:31 PM
Just realized that if this goes on long enough, states might use a second wave as an excuse to shut it down.  That would be the most 2020 thing yet.   

Unless Trump escalates again (which of course is entirely possible and probably even likely), most of the protests will have fizzled out in most cities within the week to two weeks before the rona cases start showing in the data, imo. I don't think it will have to come to states using a second wave of 'rona as the excuse to shut everything down. You know, unless Trump pulls more fuckery like the other night or makes some wild ass statements in the next few days.
Teargas, people coughing into each other during the chaos is another accelerator.

It's going to be a super spreading event plus it's going to make a lockdown for a second wave nigh impossible.
One group will say: "But they had all those protests!" and the other group will say: "I'm not listening to the Trump police!"

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 03, 2020, 06:33:13 PM
https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/1268306318814851072

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1268309345575538688
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 06:36:11 PM
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/06/james-mattis-denounces-trump-protests-militarization/612640/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 03, 2020, 06:37:03 PM
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/06/james-mattis-denounces-trump-protests-militarization/612640/

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZnp3WGWkAEFp0F?format=png)

 :whew
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 03, 2020, 06:37:22 PM
profa!  :riot
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 03, 2020, 06:47:29 PM
Quote
“Never did I dream that troops…would be ordered...to violate the Constitutional rights of their fellow citizens—much less to provide a bizarre photo op for the elected  commander-in-chief, with military leadership standing alongside."
Because mad dog grandpa you lack the imagination of a queen

(https://cdn.ttweb.net/News/images/166360.jpg?preset=w800_q70)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 06:48:20 PM
http://www.thebatt.com/news/austin-protester-in-critical-condition-identified/article_76e05d86-a5b5-11ea-b7fe-1f2073049639.html
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 06:50:48 PM
CNN is focusing much more on peaceful protestors vs rioters now.  Yesterday was a huge fumble for Trump. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 03, 2020, 06:52:10 PM
https://twitter.com/michelle_menes/status/1267704125334028288

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/man-arrested-after-pulling-rifle-on-black-lives-matter-protesters-in-upland


This is what terrorism looks like.

Did that extreme lefist get that rock from the antifa blue bins?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 03, 2020, 06:55:37 PM
#NoChill

https://twitter.com/YEOJNl/status/1268220755994607617
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 03, 2020, 07:02:43 PM
https://twitter.com/Olivianuzzi/status/1267946770362966020


"It's not tear gas unless it's from the Teargás region in France."
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 07:05:06 PM
#NoChill

https://twitter.com/YEOJNl/status/1268220755994607617

How much to delete my Bore history? 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 03, 2020, 07:13:16 PM
https://www.rgj.com/story/news/2020/06/03/3-held-terror-charges-spark-violence-las-vegas-protests/3139032001/?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot

Quote
LAS VEGAS — Three Nevada men with ties to a loose movement of right-wing extremists advocating the overthrow of the U.S. government have been arrested on terrorism-related charges in what authorities say was a conspiracy to spark violence during recent protests in Las Vegas.

Federal prosecutors say the three white men with U.S. military experience are accused of conspiring to carry out a plan that began in April in conjunction with protests to reopen businesses closed because of the coronavirus and later sought to capitalize on protests over George Floyd, the Minneapolis man who died police custody.

They were arrested Saturday on the way to a protest in downtown Las Vegas after filling gas cans at a parking lot and making Molotov cocktails in glass bottles, according to a copy of the criminal complaint.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 03, 2020, 07:16:14 PM
it was just flash bangs and smoke you pussies!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 03, 2020, 07:20:25 PM
protect shosti at all costs  :gun
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 03, 2020, 07:36:54 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/IWyPAz7.jpg)

https://twitter.com/9slattt/status/1268186623595986945


(https://i.imgur.com/aKQXvtw.jpg)


 :maduro
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 03, 2020, 07:38:57 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/zsteuTZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 03, 2020, 07:45:29 PM
The White House is being guarded by Texas prison guards right now

We're sooo close to the best possible outcome of all this.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 03, 2020, 07:47:13 PM
https://twitter.com/Pokemon/status/1268292665038327808

:rejoice
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 03, 2020, 07:47:14 PM
damn, that’s what godfrey looks like now? feel like i haven’t seen him in anything in like, 15 years
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 03, 2020, 07:48:14 PM
Why is a picture of David ortiz smiling flagged as sensitive content

Because he is a steroid user! A Fraud! :bolo
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 03, 2020, 07:59:03 PM
The White House is being guarded by Texas prison guards right now

Trump is Pablo Escobar :ohhh
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 03, 2020, 08:01:23 PM
Why is a picture of David ortiz smiling flagged as sensitive content
he's not voting for biden  :trumps
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 03, 2020, 08:01:30 PM
https://twitter.com/kwameopam/status/1268324173975359488

A lot of NYT staff tweeting this.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 08:04:47 PM
I'm really suprised they ran that.  I thought NYT was one of the good ones, like the BBC.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 03, 2020, 08:08:37 PM
I know it's become a schtick but plz stop spamming about BBC that isn't the BBC the bore is known to desire.

The BBC Micro (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Micro) :gamer
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Akala on June 03, 2020, 08:10:11 PM
https://twitter.com/KyleKulinski/status/1268280114040713217
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on June 03, 2020, 08:12:02 PM
#NoChill

https://twitter.com/YEOJNl/status/1268220755994607617
Getting kicked off the cheerleader team hardly seems to be your "life ruined" anyway.  :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 03, 2020, 08:13:57 PM
those racist girls  :drool
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 03, 2020, 08:16:10 PM
I'm just waiting for a plot twist where Mayor De Blasio runs NYT. Would encompass all new york fuckery this week if they can somehow rope in James Dolan.

Funny thing is NYT reporters typically avoid sharing political opinions on social media but have no compunction openly shitting on De Blasio.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 03, 2020, 08:19:32 PM
haven't seen anything that pathetic since Ted Cruz
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on June 03, 2020, 08:21:44 PM
https://twitter.com/danlicatasucks/status/1267975543066103814
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 03, 2020, 08:21:58 PM

A lot of NYT staff tweeting this.
https://twitter.com/JBennet/status/1268328282715492358

This has always been the Times policy but they should really, really change this.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 03, 2020, 08:31:31 PM
When did the right wing weirdos afraid of government overreach and tyranny become the fassy cucks crying for police and military to save their streets? Did 9/11 do this?
conservatives have always praised and worshiped both military and law enforcement, for helping them live out their fantasies of brutalizing black and brown bodies  ::)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 03, 2020, 08:38:40 PM
When did the right wing weirdos afraid of government overreach and tyranny become the fassy cucks crying for police and military to save their streets? Did 9/11 do this?
conservatives have always praised and worshiped both military and law enforcement, for helping them live out their fantasies of brutalizing black and brown bodies  ::)


I"m not talking about conservatives, I'm talking about the militia movement types evolving into Trumpers that support the same jackboots in riot gear and the military marching the the streets, the very thing they were killing and blowing shit up in protest of in the 90s.
their only real problem was that the blacks and browns weren't being punished enough. they were always willing to suffer more if it means the blacks and browns will get the worst of it.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 08:45:16 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/AngelaMWilhelm/status/1268056986102444033
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 03, 2020, 08:51:34 PM
https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1268338060762255360
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 03, 2020, 08:52:42 PM

It's great to have such a press that offers such a wide variety of viewpoints to accommodate the full spectrum of American politics.

I too like to judge the press based off opinion section articles I disagree with. It's all FAKE NEWS in the end.

Pushing hyper-reactionary bullshit in the opinion section is a classic nyt tactic but i agree, we need spaces and places for fascist voices and that includes the newspapers. free speech.

There are so many different takes in the NYT opinion section that your reaction seems the reactionary one to me.

Just as bad as Trump staff calling the entire gassing "media" lies. What is the "media"? Is it one organization? Because the paper aired that opinion does that mean they endorse it?

Just as bad as any right winger take on the media imo. Critique all you want, but when you talk about how the liberal paper is endorsing sending in troops because they had something in the opinion section makes no sense to me. And yes, it is free press.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 03, 2020, 08:58:58 PM
https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1268338060762255360

So, what does that mean? Was he cured of it by the time of the murder? Did the scarring in his lungs from it cause the problem?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 09:01:20 PM
Bad take, that I have already been called out on this page, but criticizing the few last principled media outlets as an institute for an isolated issue or article in a world of fake news contributes to the problem.  The main criticizing should be focused on the article not the fact that they ran it. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 03, 2020, 09:03:44 PM
I agree with you. I actually think the NYT shouldn't stop at Tom Cotton calling for military force to be used on (largely) peaceful protestors, they should take it to the next level and maybe bring on Richard Spencer or Nick Land for an opinion slot.

On one hand, the right is calling NYT dangerous and leftist because a writer said property damage is not violence.

https://twitter.com/TPPatriots/status/1268286361720717316

On the other, the left is calling NYT fascist and Nazi enablers because they ran an opinion piece.

Which is it?  :whatsthedeal

I deleted the link, but I'll repost it.

https://whorulesamerica.ucsc.edu/change/media.html
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 03, 2020, 09:06:38 PM
how is choosing to run a fashy piece not enabling fascism?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: curly on June 03, 2020, 09:06:59 PM
I agree with you. I actually think the NYT shouldn't stop at Tom Cotton calling for military force to be used on (largely) peaceful protestors, they should take it to the next level and maybe bring on Richard Spencer or Nick Land for an opinion slot.

On one hand, the right is calling NYT dangerous and leftist because a writer said property damage is not violence.

https://twitter.com/TPPatriots/status/1268286361720717316

On the other, the left is calling NYT fascist and Nazi enablers because they ran an opinion piece.

Which is it?  :whatsthedeal

I deleted the link, but I'll repost it.

https://whorulesamerica.ucsc.edu/change/media.html

On the one hand your argument is stupid, on the other it's dumb as fuck!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 03, 2020, 09:07:14 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/AngelaMWilhelm/status/1268056986102444033

This image keeps making me laugh.

Dude suited the fuck up cutting up water bottles.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 03, 2020, 09:08:07 PM
https://twitter.com/ArashMarkazi/status/1268324398462668800

Oh my gawd x 10
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 03, 2020, 09:09:47 PM
If we don't run the cotton piece, the WSJ will, sacrificing our precious profits :maf
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 03, 2020, 09:10:10 PM
nyt has sucked balls long before the trump era. and you can present a nearly endless variety of opinions without giving space to fascism, racism, genocide, etc. running a piece by congressperson calling for the military to slaughter it's own countries citizens is some dumb-ass shit, but then again this is a paper that has wanted the world to read david brooks musings for almost two decades.

edit fucking dammit this thread moves too fast fuck me
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 03, 2020, 09:11:55 PM
https://twitter.com/ArashMarkazi/status/1268324398462668800

Oh my gawd x 10

jesus christ lady i'm trying to be outraged here please shut the fuck up for a second
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 03, 2020, 09:12:02 PM
oh my god
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 03, 2020, 09:12:08 PM
That said, I thoroughly disagree with the opinion piece and I'm saddened they ran it so I do get the disappointment and don't begrudge anyone for unsubscribing.

https://twitter.com/nhannahjones/status/1268334601166106624

I'm interested in seeing where it goes from here now that the employees are actually disagreeing openly.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 09:13:56 PM
I mean we both know that there is clearly a balancing game between moderation, platforming and powerful people being newsworthy solely because they are powerful.  Its the same shit twitter is dealing with now with Trump.  I think we'd also both tend to the side of moderation of extreme-right opinions.  But I also think this isn't 2002 and the cause of moderation is less worthwhile than the cause of actually having foundational media that can be trusted (most of the time).

how is choosing to run a fashy piece not enabling fascism?

It is.  The issue is when an instance of enabling fascism becomes 'this is an institute which enables fascism'. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 03, 2020, 09:14:41 PM
quick back of the napkin hot take: if your media outlet is supposed to be some bulwark for liberal democracy, yes, it makes total sense to filter out voices that are illiberal or antidemocratic
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 03, 2020, 09:18:02 PM
The issue is when an instance of enabling fascism becomes 'this is an institute which enables fascism'.
wat
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 03, 2020, 09:21:26 PM
FWIW, I'm suffering from massive cognitive dissonance. I stan NYT because of stuff like the 1619 project but stuff like this and the 2016 coverage of Trump often make me reconsider. This is how Tasty must feel with Google and their spying. :stahp

My brain doesn't know how to deal with it.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 09:23:32 PM
quick back of the napkin hot take: if your media outlet is supposed to be some bulwark for liberal democracy, yes, it makes total sense to filter out voices that are illiberal or antidemocratic

I agree.  They should have done that, and as I said its a balancing act and understandable why it happened.  What I'm saying is the contrapositive of that is dangerous in a time of fake news: fairly isolated instances of failing to be that filter does mean we should question the validity of them being that bulwark. 

because it leads to this

FWIW, I'm suffering from massive cognitive dissonance. I stan NYT because of stuff like the 1619 project but stuff like this and the 2016 coverage of Trump often make me reconsider. This is how Tasty must feel with Google and their spying. :stahp

My brain doesn't know how to deal with it.

which is fine, but remember that next-level version of this feeling is not to become more educated and just stan contributors but to declare the paper as whole fake news.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 03, 2020, 09:24:58 PM
Don't stan the paper/brand then. Stan the contributors you like.

But the Lens section. :stahp
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 09:29:34 PM
More than anything I dislike the idea that the nyt must be defended because what, they aren't fox news? FWIW I've been reading them since I was a child, my parents had it on the table every morning, the New York Times is a part of my life for better or worse and i've seen them at their best (1619 project) and at their worst (defending indefensible wars). There's a hard limit to the "so...but what if we nuked iran" type content as a kooky  thought piece but that limit will be stretched over the next 5-7 years of economic ruin.

I dislike my position too, but I genuinely think fake news is one of the scariest things of our times, and I have no other solution than to defend the few papers that haven't fallen to the disease.   
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 03, 2020, 09:29:43 PM
https://www.thedailybeast.com/new-york-times-staffers-in-open-revolt-over-running-tom-cottons-send-in-the-troops-column?via=twitter_page
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 03, 2020, 09:31:26 PM
Imagine being a senator and arguing about using military against your own people
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 03, 2020, 09:36:57 PM
More than anything I dislike the idea that the nyt must be defended because what, they aren't fox news? FWIW I've been reading them since I was a child, my parents had it on the table every morning, the New York Times is a part of my life for better or worse and i've seen them at their best (1619 project) and at their worst (defending indefensible wars). There's a hard limit to the "so...but what if we nuked iran" type content as a kooky  thought piece but that limit will be stretched over the next 5-7 years of economic ruin.

I dislike my position too, but I genuinely think fake news is one of the scariest things of our times, and I have no other solution than to defend the few papers that haven't fallen to the disease.

Defend good people and good journalists, not papers owned by gajillionaires who don't give a flying fuck about you. The masses are stronger and smarter than overpaid ivy league grads getting posting orders from a bunch of chodes

:idont

My graduate school program will give a paid internship at NYT. They are/were my pick.

I don't know how to feel or how to handle it.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 09:40:39 PM
More than anything I dislike the idea that the nyt must be defended because what, they aren't fox news? FWIW I've been reading them since I was a child, my parents had it on the table every morning, the New York Times is a part of my life for better or worse and i've seen them at their best (1619 project) and at their worst (defending indefensible wars). There's a hard limit to the "so...but what if we nuked iran" type content as a kooky  thought piece but that limit will be stretched over the next 5-7 years of economic ruin.

I dislike my position too, but I genuinely think fake news is one of the scariest things of our times, and I have no other solution than to defend the few papers that haven't fallen to the disease.

Defend good people and good journalists, not papers owned by gajillionaires who don't give a flying fuck about you. The masses are stronger and smarter than overpaid ivy league grads getting posting orders from a bunch of chodes

:idont

Don't stan the paper/brand then. Stan the contributors you like.

E: basically this. for example i hate the intercept, but it has a couple contributors i like like aida chavez.

People's opinions will always coalesce based on the medium.   Keeping track of separate opinions for individual journalists is a big ask for most people.  It's the same reason we have (or at least one reason) why we have political parties and why people focus on federal politics over local.  It's the same argument as don't defend democrats, defend individual good politicians but this has consequences. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 03, 2020, 09:46:06 PM
Why not give bad opinions a platform? Let the public see it for what it is and that person has to live with the stigma  of that poor thinking for the rest of their career.

Quit being so afraid all the time.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 03, 2020, 09:47:16 PM
Can you imagine watching what's happening and saying "quit being so afraid"

I am afraid, bro
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 09:49:25 PM
Why not give bad opinions a platform?

Because a hell of a lot of people don't think it's a bad opinion and will reinforce it. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 03, 2020, 09:52:50 PM
“ think of the children” and other variations of that argument don’t fly with me. We live in a wide open media landscape and anything Cotton printed there he could have transmitted in a thousand different ways with far more reach (collectively).

It’s not 1950 anymore where there’s 3 channels, 2 radio stations and 1 newspaper.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 09:55:50 PM
People's opinions will always coalesce based on the medium.   Keeping track of separate opinions for individual journalists is a big ask for most people.  It's the same reason we have (or at least one reason) why we have political parties and why people focus on federal politics over local.  It's the same argument as don't defend democrats, defend individual good politicians but this has consequences.

Yeah but it's not a big ask for someone who's extremely online :hitler

TBF i feel that twitter makes this "style" of news consumption way easier because you develop a lot of familiarity with a journalist or perspective by subbing to them.

I don't have a twitter and I just want to get back what little lefty cred I have back by saying that I make that sacrifice solely because when the revolution happens, they will go for the people three degrees from the antifa leaders first while I'll be left to make your death meaningful.   :salute
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 03, 2020, 10:00:16 PM
trump isn't out there putting out opinion pieces but we see his dumbass opinions all the time and in the case of his most recent ones to "dominate" peaceful protesters it could actually be a major contributor to getting him out of there
:idont

the fear of "normalizing" the harmful is pretty shit

it's why we've got people saying they shouldn't put villains in media anymore because some crazy person out there might accidentally get the idea that it's a good thing to kidnap princesses
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 10:04:08 PM
Trump writes a few dozen opinion pieces a day and they are all 280 characters or less.  I think it's fair to say that they have normalized some pretty terrible things in less than a decade.

edit:  not to harp on the media still, but I am watching CNN for the first time in years because of the protests and WTF is up with the little banter that happens between Don Lemon and the white one before he hands it off to Lemon. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 03, 2020, 10:05:17 PM
trump isn't out there putting out opinion pieces but we see his dumbass opinions all the time and in the case of his most recent ones to "dominate" peaceful protesters it could actually be a major contributor to getting him out of there
:idont

the fear of "normalizing" the harmful is pretty shit

it's why we've got people saying they shouldn't put villains in media anymore because some crazy person out there might accidentally get the idea that it's a good thing to kidnap princesses

This is a bad argument.

Trump has normalized a lot of shit.

If anything, this opinion has put me squarely on the side of "running this was a bad idea".

 :comeon
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 03, 2020, 10:10:38 PM
10 buses worth of troops pulled up near WH
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 03, 2020, 10:12:09 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Mr2CTPi.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 03, 2020, 10:13:11 PM
trump isn't out there putting out opinion pieces but we see his dumbass opinions all the time and in the case of his most recent ones to "dominate" peaceful protesters it could actually be a major contributor to getting him out of there
:idont

the fear of "normalizing" the harmful is pretty shit

it's why we've got people saying they shouldn't put villains in media anymore because some crazy person out there might accidentally get the idea that it's a good thing to kidnap princesses

This is a bad argument.

Trump has normalized a lot of shit.

If anything, this opinion has put me squarely on the side of "running this was a bad idea".

 :comeon

if this particular opinion piece is the spark needed to light the fire to get people to rally against future bad opinion pieces like these, it would ironically prove the premise correct that a net positive can come out of such things
:trumps
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 03, 2020, 10:14:20 PM
https://twitter.com/nrookie/status/1268240744525029376

 :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 10:18:25 PM
Biden was actually demonstrating the effect of a leg shot in that pic.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 03, 2020, 10:19:25 PM
Why not give bad opinions a platform? Let the public see it for what it is and that person has to live with the stigma  of that poor thinking for the rest of their career.
because people generally dont flock to the opinions that are best argued or have the best evidence, they flock to the ones that confirm their priors or serve their narrow interests. i also think the ideal of a newspaper being over and above the everyday political fray, acting as a neutral arbiter, is just dumb

Quote
We live in a wide open media landscape.
we really dont though
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 03, 2020, 10:21:00 PM
https://twitter.com/MikeBeauvais/status/1267945114955141126

:whew
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 03, 2020, 10:21:51 PM
lmao no

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-minneapolis-police-poll-exclusive/exclusive-most-americans-sympathize-with-protests-disapprove-of-trumps-response-reuters-ipsos-idUSKBN239347

https://www.frontpagelive.com/2020/06/03/majority-of-americans-disapprove-of-trump/

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/03/joe-biden-trump-poll-monmouth-298470

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/03/us/politics/trump-campaign-virus-protests-polls.html

I don't think you get this without him repeatedly being an asshole on the national stage

yes it could drive other assholes to agree with him, but there's more and more evidence that it's doing him more harm than good
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 03, 2020, 10:23:20 PM
10 buses worth of troops pulled up near WH

I wouldn't be surprised if they were called in because to protect FROM the local police and whatever the fuck no name"military"-esque wanna be soldiers are running around there.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 03, 2020, 10:24:01 PM
we really dont though
we live in a wide open... society
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 03, 2020, 10:25:36 PM
lmao no

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-minneapolis-police-poll-exclusive/exclusive-most-americans-sympathize-with-protests-disapprove-of-trumps-response-reuters-ipsos-idUSKBN239347

https://www.frontpagelive.com/2020/06/03/majority-of-americans-disapprove-of-trump/

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/03/joe-biden-trump-poll-monmouth-298470

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/03/us/politics/trump-campaign-virus-protests-polls.html

I don't think you get this without him repeatedly being an asshole on the national stage

yes it could drive other assholes to agree with him, but there's more and more evidence that it's doing him more harm than good

Trump's approval went up a few points during the early days of the 'rona [what with all the national unity and such], but it's been trending back down again since his response to the 'rona has been pretty bad and I can't imagine what's going on right now is going to reverse that trend.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 03, 2020, 10:29:12 PM
good thing you got that third leg  ;)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on June 03, 2020, 10:29:57 PM
Why not give bad opinions a platform? Let the public see it for what it is and that person has to live with the stigma  of that poor thinking for the rest of their career.

Quit being so afraid all the time.
I'm not against the general sentiment, i don't like to have people do the critical thinking for me, but space is limited and if you give every random distinguished mentally-challenged fellow space for their shit, what's even the point of editorializing? Just go on Facebook or whatever.
Also not every issue (in fact, almost none) is on a binary spectrum, where you can just present "the two sides" and be done with it.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 03, 2020, 10:37:51 PM
https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1268362601173581831

saints? more like taints  :yuck
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on June 03, 2020, 10:47:20 PM
https://twitter.com/muneytarz/status/1267966610226253826
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 03, 2020, 10:47:51 PM
https://twitter.com/BenDWalsh/status/1268354350591684611
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 10:59:03 PM
https://twitter.com/joshfoxfilm/status/1268366550475603969
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 03, 2020, 11:03:12 PM
If some guy was whacking the shit out of me on my bike for no reason I don't know how I'd keep my cool. I flip out pretty easily
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 11:04:52 PM
https://www.wave3.com/2020/06/03/officers-walk-out-louisville-mayor-greg-fischer-protest/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 11:07:05 PM
more good news
https://deadline.com/2020/06/los-angeles-mayor-eric-garcetti-city-officials-cutting-100-150-million-from-lapd-budget-funds-to-be-reinvested-in-communities-of-color-1202950811/

and charged instead of just fired

https://www.cnn.com/webview/us/live-news/george-floyd-protests-06-03-20/h_0ecdf84fc9274a4b5a7f4632d74c1652
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 11:16:28 PM
https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Attorney-identifies-SF-resident-fatally-shot-by-15315301.php?utm_campaign=CMS%20Sharing%20Tools%20(Premium)&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral

Man fatally shot by police while kneeling.

And he was Latino.  I do feel like there is an intersectionality to police brutality and may resonate more with them.  That being said without video people identify less with tragedy. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 03, 2020, 11:17:48 PM
Why not give bad opinions a platform? Let the public see it for what it is and that person has to live with the stigma  of that poor thinking for the rest of their career.

Quit being so afraid all the time.

obviously wrong and dumb viewpoints can get widespread traction throughout society if given the veneer of respectability by elite institutions, no matter how many times they're debunked

for example, climate change denial
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2020, 11:20:22 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut/comments/gvzqcx/the_nypd_is_disguising_as_taxi_drivers_and/

wtf that can't be right
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 03, 2020, 11:22:34 PM
Learning that the NYPD have an entire fleet of entrapment vehicles is fucking me up :lawd
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Steve Contra on June 03, 2020, 11:28:14 PM
There was a guy yelling out his window at the SF protest to vote libertarian :dead

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Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Beezy on June 03, 2020, 11:46:53 PM
Watching the whole world learn how fucked up the NYPD is has been pretty great.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 03, 2020, 11:53:35 PM
The Utah National Guard is in DC tonight and maybe there's some other reason but sure feels like they're going out of their way to get the whitest reinforcements possible.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Beezy on June 03, 2020, 11:57:45 PM
A thread on the NFL being racist:
https://twitter.com/MartysaurusRex/status/1268337851797614592
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Steve Contra on June 03, 2020, 11:59:28 PM
Watching the whole world learn how fucked up the NYPD is has been pretty great.
remember when Bloomberg was running for president
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 04, 2020, 12:03:05 AM
Watching the whole world learn how fucked up the NYPD is has been pretty great.
remember when Bloomberg was running for president

remember when De Blasio was running for president???

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me neither
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Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 04, 2020, 12:04:33 AM
Comrade De Blasio is doing the best he can with a rogue paramilitary organization, riots, and tens of thousands who suffocated to death on their own lung tissue. Give him a break
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Steve Contra on June 04, 2020, 12:05:17 AM
Watching the whole world learn how fucked up the NYPD is has been pretty great.
remember when Bloomberg was running for president

remember when De Blasio was running for president???

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me neither
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I forgot that  :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 12:07:23 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/2020PoliceBrutality/comments/gvpx7n/this_is_the_toughest_human_being_ive_ever_seen/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 04, 2020, 12:48:34 AM
https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1268356686068084736

BUT before everyone celebrates:

https://twitter.com/TwinklingTania/status/1268398192170696704
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Beezy on June 04, 2020, 12:48:42 AM
https://twitter.com/marvinwilson21/status/1268395525495193601
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 04, 2020, 12:51:39 AM
https://twitter.com/CiaranDold/status/1268092279442616324
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 04, 2020, 01:32:29 AM
Trying to find it, but there was a thread on Twitter a few days ago by a guy who does training seminars for local police on how to deal with terrorism/active shooting situations. He said over the last few years cops have been telling him antifa is their primary concern in that department, and when he'd ask them to name the major attacks caused by antifa they'd be stumped (contrasted with white supremacist and Islamic mass killings).

Also, has to be awesome to decide you need to put barriers in front of your place of worship because someone might try to ram a vehicle into it, then the president tells everyone that those barriers are signs of subversive, anti-American activity.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 04, 2020, 01:54:55 AM
https://twitter.com/BenjaminPDixon/status/1268381906623696897


https://twitter.com/whnt/status/1268388194116153345


 :titus
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 04, 2020, 02:48:05 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/GLcrnl8.jpg)

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 04, 2020, 02:52:11 AM
My prediction is that NYT doesn't pull the Cotton piece because they already paid him and they can't afford the lost revenue during adpocalypse.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 04, 2020, 02:53:58 AM
 :nsfanyone
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Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 04, 2020, 02:59:44 AM
 :nsfw
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Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 04, 2020, 06:13:44 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/f26qTz8.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 04, 2020, 06:50:23 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/Hj8S8iJ.jpg)

 :stahp
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 04, 2020, 07:30:05 AM
https://twitter.com/pIasmasword/status/1268392050187255812
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZpXoSiUMAAH45Z?format=png&name=small)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 04, 2020, 08:14:42 AM
Thanks for the weeb perspective. Very cool
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 04, 2020, 08:27:11 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/Hj8S8iJ.jpg)

 :stahp

Hell yeah. Let the American empire burn. :rejoice #Calxit #NExit #SExit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 04, 2020, 08:29:39 AM
Thanks for the weeb perspective. Very cool
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZpZjysVcAE8heE?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 04, 2020, 08:31:44 AM
Thanks for the weeb perspective. Very cool
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZpZjysVcAE8heE?format=jpg&name=small)

 :curious YET, YOU ARE ONE.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 04, 2020, 08:32:45 AM

obviously wrong and dumb viewpoints can get widespread traction throughout society if given the veneer of respectability by elite institutions, no matter how many times they're debunked

for example, climate change denial

Every single biased media outlet does this though. They bring on their 'Alan Colmes' to present opposing ideas so they can swat them down or inform their bubble exactly what the other side thinks.

People weren't watching MSNBC and changing their viewpoints because Jeffrey Lord was spitting hot conservative takes.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 08:35:28 AM
A few Canadian cities (and a territory) are looking into body cams now. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 08:46:22 AM
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/donald-trump-s-press-secretary-says-police-who-attacked-australian-journalists-had-right-to-defend-themselves

SMH
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 04, 2020, 08:51:16 AM
Thanks for the weeb perspective. Very cool
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZpZjysVcAE8heE?format=jpg&name=small)

 :curious YET, YOU ARE ONE.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/v1xmYz2j3pTJS/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 04, 2020, 09:00:31 AM
https://twitter.com/jonny_is_good/status/1268154565028872192
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 04, 2020, 09:57:08 AM
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/donald-trump-s-press-secretary-says-police-who-attacked-australian-journalists-had-right-to-defend-themselves

SMH

You got to respect the balls on this lady

Remember she is saying this in front of other people, not typing it, and has to keep a straight face
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 04, 2020, 10:13:00 AM
https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2020/06/03/457251670/how-much-do-we-need-the-police

This was in NPR.

:leon
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 10:21:26 AM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/03/asheville-north-carolina-police-seen-destroying-protesters-supplies/3135539001/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 04, 2020, 10:41:29 AM
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/donald-trump-s-press-secretary-says-police-who-attacked-australian-journalists-had-right-to-defend-themselves

SMH

You got to respect the balls on this lady

Remember she is saying this in front of other people, not typing it, and has to keep a straight face

Nah, it's pretty easy when you're a sociopath.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 04, 2020, 10:56:56 AM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/03/asheville-north-carolina-police-seen-destroying-protesters-supplies/3135539001/

(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2020/06/03/PASH/7554ef50-7cf8-4a29-9600-bfd81a8db8fc-Protest_Day3_06022020_0353.jpg?width=660&height=441&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp)

:shaking
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 10:57:24 AM
https://twitter.com/lambomursy/status/1267908087773638656

https://queenseagle.com/all/man-with-knives-strapped-to-wrist-threatens-to-kill-police-violence-protestors-in-whitestone-queens
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 11:14:01 AM
https://twitter.com/MeritLaw/status/1268554702607835138

https://abc7.com/watch-live-3-charged-in-arbery-death-face-court-hearing/6231085/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 11:15:51 AM
https://twitter.com/richardgrant88/status/1267523353289474048
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 11:27:29 AM
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/cant-breathe-tacoma-police-restraint-manuel-ellis-caused-his-death-me-reports/ZPHQGNCCTZB7BLXBJJSDEN5THQ/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 04, 2020, 11:32:21 AM
https://twitter.com/oneweirdoldtip/status/1268336867935690752
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 11:38:27 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyDpP2s-og

good follow up
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Coax on June 04, 2020, 11:46:25 AM
https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1268396394886443009

I'll admit, the one (https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1268397070563414016) where a cop and a protester are shouting at each other in full and half-mask respirators was darkly humorous to me. Predictably she sounded muffled while the cop began to sound like a kazoo as he shouted louder due to the vibration of the exhalation valve. She had the right idea in that environment though.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 04, 2020, 11:47:01 AM
https://twitter.com/oneweirdoldtip/status/1268336867935690752

Some dumb broad posted something similar on my Facebook page, one of the hick girls I went to high school with.   SLIGHTLY closer to Seattle but was in "Snohomish, WA", up in farm country basically with a bit of mixed rich ass MS McMansion neighborhoods. 

Fucking idiots, as if anyone from ANTIFA would show up in that cow town lol

(https://i.imgur.com/8FhRLLQ.png)

(she had a stinky pussy)

why is that wicca in the middle wearing clown shoes :lol

you could use them as canoes :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 04, 2020, 11:49:03 AM
that duck hunt rifle

:rofl
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 04, 2020, 11:52:58 AM
https://twitter.com/oneweirdoldtip/status/1268336867935690752

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZopFeTUMAE-Nfu?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on June 04, 2020, 11:53:41 AM
Lol, an officer in Fargo did a fellow kids disguise.

https://mobile.twitter.com/gfherald/status/1268391877721624577

(https://www.inforum.com/incoming/6520798-15oidm-EMBED-Excerpt-from-Osmundson-email/alternates/BASE_LANDSCAPE/EMBED%3A%20Excerpt%20from%20Osmundson%20email)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 12:04:40 PM
There is that video of the cop trying to kneal and being picked up then pushed back by other cops twice.  Bet he will wish he quit. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 04, 2020, 12:10:59 PM
Have there been any cops anywhere in America that said fuck it and quit the force during all of this

With 41 million out of work and a looming recession around the corner, probably a bad time for a career change if you have a family/mortgage.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 04, 2020, 12:11:14 PM
https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1268396394886443009

https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1268404518326276096

https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1268533926190108675



The attacks on press is really the wildest part to me. There's no way for them to defend or deny it, attacking the press is a line that usually doesn't even get crossed in official war zones. There's nothing to gain for police attacking the press other than a show of power, which just reinforces why there are protests in the first place.

They also have nothing to gain for attacking the press either.

The press normally might give police good publicity in normal times. That relationship will be tense going forward.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Steve Contra on June 04, 2020, 12:14:10 PM
 https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/us/mcmichaels-hearing-ahmaud-arbery/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/us/mcmichaels-hearing-ahmaud-arbery/index.html)

Hit with a truck, shot with a police issued gun, and called a distinguished black fellow.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 04, 2020, 12:14:48 PM
https://twitter.com/VickyMooreNews/status/1268573766373666818
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Steve Contra on June 04, 2020, 12:23:10 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/MeritLaw/status/1268572691440840704

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 04, 2020, 12:23:14 PM
Have there been any cops anywhere in America that said fuck it and quit the force during all of this

I saw a short video yesterday about one dude who asked his captain if he could kneel, and the captain said no, so he turned in his badge.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 04, 2020, 12:30:55 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/MeritLaw/status/1268572691440840704

Bold defense, but we'll see how it works out for him.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 04, 2020, 12:41:36 PM
When you got server maintenance  8)

https://twitter.com/RockstarGames/status/1268573285496823808
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 04, 2020, 12:47:46 PM
"I'll be honest, it doesn't look good for your defense. But if you admit to being a raging racist and scream LAW AND ORDER and attack Obama in court, we may be able to get a Presidential Pardon"
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 04, 2020, 12:50:16 PM
When you got server maintenance  8)

https://twitter.com/RockstarGames/status/1268573285496823808

can't loot online

:notlikethis
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 04, 2020, 12:50:59 PM
https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1268158577132404738

And the Demon's wanted this man to be Bidet's replacement...

#OOP :kermit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 04, 2020, 12:51:33 PM
When you got server maintenance  8)

https://twitter.com/RockstarGames/status/1268573285496823808

This morning, between 8:00 and 8:30 CT, I ate two Cheesy Toasted Breakfast Burritos to honor the legacy of George Floyd.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 04, 2020, 12:56:20 PM
I'm not paying my taxes in honor of George Floyd  :salute
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 01:03:15 PM
https://twitter.com/VickyMooreNews/status/1268573766373666818

Seattle too.  On the one hand, this is great on the other, I don't really want to see police deescalate this quickly just because it gives more reason for the weekend protests to be less of a statement. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 04, 2020, 01:08:27 PM
GTA, or how we in Europe call it, The United States of America Simulator
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 04, 2020, 01:09:59 PM
I bet departments are starting to run out of munitions :heh
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 04, 2020, 01:19:57 PM
https://twitter.com/abc15/status/1268569438451687428

Jake Paul is still relevant?  ???
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 04, 2020, 01:41:44 PM
https://twitter.com/ChrisLoesch/status/1268273445172846598

https://twitter.com/ChrisLoesch/status/1268277305690017793


 :doge  :brain  :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 04, 2020, 01:50:48 PM
heil bitchtita
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: zomgee on June 04, 2020, 02:09:53 PM
when I see that goon I see lots of weeknights of hot pockets and oreos
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 04, 2020, 02:28:12 PM
I see the kinda mf to talk crazy shit and then get knocked flat on his ass
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 04, 2020, 02:34:49 PM
antifascists are just anarchists looking for a reason.

They come out of the woodworks from all ideology.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 04, 2020, 02:40:25 PM
seeing fucking idiots go for the whole "all lives matter" just to be roasted and then suddenly change their mind is ridiculous.

Yeah wow, such a massive amount of reflection came about in the last two days.... Especially when they called everyone doing #BLM sheep.

Get fucked, miss me with that shit.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 02:40:59 PM
https://buffalonews.com/2020/06/04/buffalo-bills-quarterback-jake-fromm-elite-white-people-guns-apology-skurski-nfl/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 04, 2020, 02:42:01 PM
https://buffalonews.com/2020/06/04/buffalo-bills-quarterback-jake-fromm-elite-white-people-guns-apology-skurski-nfl/

Sub to view?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 02:52:31 PM
good listen

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/03/podcasts/the-daily/jacob-frey-george-floyd-protests-minneapolis.html

Quote
The Mayor of Minneapolis
In our interview, Mayor Jacob Frey said he had been warned that a lack of policing reform could lead to a city crisis. “Every single day, I feel the weight of responsibility on my chest.”
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 04, 2020, 02:56:17 PM
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1268617093106282497
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 03:09:12 PM
(https://preview.redd.it/o0pylnm3uv251.jpg?width=750&auto=webp&s=7599c10f99777b241b712be569d65e0df4019d7a)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 04, 2020, 03:11:44 PM
(https://preview.redd.it/o0pylnm3uv251.jpg?width=750&auto=webp&s=7599c10f99777b241b712be569d65e0df4019d7a)

:shaking
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 04, 2020, 03:12:26 PM
I know i just spent a couple pages criticising the liberal press but also..... Trump spent his tenure making an enemy out of the press every single day, so of course police are going to be less inclined to give them special privileges on this issue. Feels like a lot of departments simply do not give a shit about optics right now hence some of the conduct that's been recorded.

See my problem with the whole "media" thing is stuff like this. You see it left or right. The meds said Covid was a hoax? Uhhhh which media?

https://twitter.com/mitsurutenma/status/1268317509091901440

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 04, 2020, 03:16:52 PM
you know what, I don't care.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on June 04, 2020, 03:34:08 PM
I bet departments are starting to run out of munitions :heh

They’ll just buy more.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Or just switch to lethal rounds  :goty
[close]
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Akala on June 04, 2020, 03:41:30 PM
reading him talking damages brain cells.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 04, 2020, 03:43:47 PM
It's not exactly "ask not what your country can do for you", or the Gettysburg Address, is it?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 03:43:51 PM
https://apnews.com/8c3d108016fd639137ce2b05da172f3f?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP

Quote
Attorney Earl Gray, representing Lane, told the court that Chauvin was his client’s training officer and that when Floyd died it was only Lane’s fourth day on the job.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 04, 2020, 03:45:44 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ZonwWJ3.png)

Dude spoke a novel's worth of words and there wasn't a single sentence in there with any value. :goty
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 04, 2020, 03:46:58 PM
https://twitter.com/Marina_Sirtis/status/1268616519908352003
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 04, 2020, 03:48:51 PM
counselor troi :mouf
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 03:54:33 PM
Is he doing a twitter poetry slam about a senior citizen having a morning poop? 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 04, 2020, 03:58:25 PM
We launched a rocket and talked about George Floyd and then the media said it wasn't enough so we teargassed a bunch of people for a photo-op what more could you expect us to do :trumps
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 03:59:55 PM
https://whdh.com/news/animal-rescue-gives-dog-back-to-white-woman-who-called-police-on-black-man-in-central-park/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 04:02:14 PM
https://abc7chicago.com/cpd-officers-under-investigation-in-brickyard-mall-incident;-family-to-speak-out/6230816/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 04, 2020, 04:06:50 PM
https://twitter.com/TheRock/status/1268396403711082496 (https://twitter.com/TheRock/status/1268396403711082496)

 :what
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 04, 2020, 04:08:08 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ZonwWJ3.png)

Dude spoke a novel's worth of words and there wasn't a single sentence in there with any value. :goty

Trump finally getting better at the pollitical game :obama
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 04, 2020, 04:12:45 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1268635752214208514 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1268635752214208514)

 :maduro
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 04, 2020, 04:20:43 PM

See my problem with the whole "media" thing is stuff like this. You see it left or right. The meds said Covid was a hoax? Uhhhh which media?


IDK about what that person was saying, but I get that there is sometimes use in making a broad argument about mass media. And other times, you might want to make a specific argument for specific reasons... Like that the that the New York Times (https://fair.org/home/nyt-laments-forever-wars-its-editorials-helped-create/) has a history of supporting all sorts of military ventures. And all this is not to say that media in general is not useful. I'm not denying the possibility of EVER being able to extract useful information despite all sorts of confounding factors or even fundamental aspects of all different types of news mediums. We all have our own lenses to look at things.

I prefer your approach. You're targeting a specific outlet rather than just using "the media" as a boogeyman.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 04:33:32 PM
https://twitter.com/a_picazo/status/1268628777174794240
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 04, 2020, 04:44:57 PM
https://twitter.com/a_picazo/status/1268628777174794240
I'm getting COVID shivers hearing those coughs  :existential
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 04, 2020, 04:54:08 PM
hearing "thank you, jesus!" right after the gas hit them  :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 04, 2020, 04:59:39 PM
https://twitter.com/JoseCanseco/status/1268627223608569857
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 04, 2020, 05:01:07 PM
Yeah because the cops do so much crime prevention in this country.

There's actually quite a lot of evidence that the presence of 'beat cops' reduces crime AND arrests by acting as a deterrent.
The bigger factor on prison populations is sentencing, not the size of the police force.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 05:01:09 PM
(https://external-preview.redd.it/_5dr6YS5vDWdee2ne9vriGbRDA-XOAZAsPdcbtzEOvQ.jpg?width=837&auto=webp&s=2c7bacad31e128656f532fd7ade89c83202d21b8)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 04, 2020, 05:02:56 PM
Jose Canseco calling in the ghosts :jeanluc

Jose da gawd :rejoice
https://twitter.com/JoseCanseco/status/1268627223608569857




This is still his best tweet though, if I had the money to burn I would definitely want to go

https://twitter.com/JoseCanseco/status/1095438876124930048
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 04, 2020, 05:06:18 PM
https://twitter.com/HYFRmuss/status/1268280724102230023
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 04, 2020, 05:22:35 PM
*essential worker stroll

 ;)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 04, 2020, 05:30:52 PM
https://twitter.com/emilymvson/status/1268190940130394112
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 05:40:40 PM
Some day, and I hope in my lifetime, short people will riot and end hight privilege.  Bagel man was just the start. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 04, 2020, 05:55:38 PM
RETIRE, BITCH!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on June 04, 2020, 05:56:49 PM
Si no pueden que renuncien.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 06:10:31 PM
https://twitter.com/fox7austin/status/1268660757056696320

edit:  that was really hard to listen to.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 04, 2020, 06:54:44 PM
https://twitter.com/Marina_Sirtis/status/1268616519908352003

Did Lin get ethered so hard by Troi that he deleted the tweet?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 04, 2020, 07:12:05 PM
https://twitter.com/BryanLlenas/status/1268637787881975809 (https://twitter.com/BryanLlenas/status/1268637787881975809)

https://twitter.com/BryanLlenas/status/1268645368700469249 (https://twitter.com/BryanLlenas/status/1268645368700469249)

 :maduro
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 04, 2020, 07:13:35 PM
should liberate the jails.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Coffee Dog on June 04, 2020, 07:16:33 PM
The local bowman got hit with aggravated assault (not attempted murder despite firing an arrow at someone)

Meanwhile, as for the two guys who set the cop car on fire: "Both were charged with one count of arson. If convicted, they face at least five years and up to 20 years in prison. The case was filed by federal rather than state prosecutors because the Salt Lake City Police Department participates in interstate commerce, authorities wrote in court documents." Yes, all the commerce being done with that cop car  ::)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 04, 2020, 07:18:53 PM
We need to go back to a narrow reading of the commerce clause to protect protesters.

no wait

shit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on June 04, 2020, 07:30:49 PM
https://twitter.com/fox7austin/status/1268660757056696320

edit:  that was really hard to listen to.

Gutwrenching.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 04, 2020, 07:30:54 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZtGs_bXQAMZQ8U?format=jpg)
Explain this to your 2012 self
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 04, 2020, 07:35:33 PM
it wasn't that hard to see, a constant slide to the right and this is where you end up. now as for having the world's biggest dipfuck in charge of it all, that was the real twist.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 04, 2020, 07:45:13 PM
Every single biased media outlet does this though. They bring on their 'Alan Colmes' to present opposing ideas so they can swat them down or inform their bubble exactly what the other side thinks.

People weren't watching MSNBC and changing their viewpoints because Jeffrey Lord was spitting hot conservative takes.

Good example. Colmes was on FNC to get shouted down by Hannity or other panelists. He didn't get his own show where he got to opine without being challenged or contradicted.

If the NYT had covered this via their news division or had their editorial board interview him like they did with the Dem presidential candidates (which produced this (https://3h7pwd17k2h42n17eg2j7vdq-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/breadprice-620x413.jpg)), they could have saved themselves all the backlash from their own staff.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 04, 2020, 07:48:40 PM


Jose da gawd :rejoice
https://twitter.com/JoseCanseco/status/1268627223608569857




This is still his best tweet though, if I had the money to burn I would definitely want to go

https://twitter.com/JoseCanseco/status/1095438876124930048

The Dan Lebetard show tried to take him up on the offer and he ghosted them. Kept raising his price and putting all kinds of wacky conditions on the event.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 04, 2020, 07:50:14 PM


The Dan Lebetard show tried to take him up on the offer and he ghosted them. Kept raising his price and putting all kinds of wacky conditions on the event.

He obviously didn't want the lamestream media to be there. Media attention would have put the crosshair of the deep state on him for looking for the truth ::)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 04, 2020, 08:04:52 PM
https://twitter.com/jamieNBC6/status/1268658364944441346
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 08:14:56 PM
https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/george-floyd-protests-police-take-action-after-attack-on-seven-news-crew/news-story/308a77edc3181288b0de45463eb283c3
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: remy on June 04, 2020, 08:21:13 PM
https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/george-floyd-protests-police-take-action-after-attack-on-seven-news-crew/news-story/308a77edc3181288b0de45463eb283c3
Even if you beat right wing news reporters with your shield on camera, like you're mvc cap the worst you get is a deskjob. I love how the limp dick murdoch press says "appeared" to attack.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 08:48:13 PM
https://twitter.com/bullfish777/status/1268674974509944833
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 04, 2020, 09:46:22 PM
https://twitter.com/lodgepolepines/status/1268714767377670144

Shitsta annihilated, curly go ahead and like this post
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Beezy on June 04, 2020, 09:48:53 PM
https://twitter.com/EricHaywood/status/1268705772222836736
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 09:50:21 PM
https://twitter.com/WBFO/status/1268712530358292484

blood warning

This is going to blow up
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 04, 2020, 09:58:10 PM
He doesn't even look lika a protester, just like a dude trying to go somewhere.  :-\
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Akala on June 04, 2020, 09:58:12 PM
just saw that wtf  :-\
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: remy on June 04, 2020, 10:03:10 PM
Just shove an old man over and leave him bleeding from his head on the st. Just Pig Things
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 04, 2020, 10:04:17 PM
Matt Yglesias retweeted it so you're already wrong
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 04, 2020, 10:05:37 PM
How can you hurt an old man like that :(

Dude kinda looks like my dad which made this hit home way harder. He just walks up to the cop trying to ask him something.  :-\

I would sue the police department immediately and run over the dude who shoved him and everyone else who didn't do anything with a semi truck.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 10:05:38 PM
I really hope he is OK.  But this is the perfect storm of things to go wrong to send a message of police violence to every (white) American.  An old white man, non-violent in broad daylight, 3 meters from any other protestor - may not even be a protestor really, just a curious lookie-loo - with 20 plus armed cops in sight.  Gets pushed with a visible and instant traumatic head injury.  An audible gasp and stop motion from the crowd.  The cop who goes to help gets pushed forward by other cops to arrest another non-violent protestor.  The cop is easily identifiable.  And it was caught by a true news cameraman, not a cell phone. 

And the Police are already admitting no wrongdoing and saying he just tripped. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 10:22:44 PM
It's about identifying with the victim.  All of this is bad, but it's about the thing that makes you at a gut level go this is so wrong, and unfortunately that's not seeing a black man die over 8 minutes or young hippies getting gassed to a lot of people. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 10:25:15 PM
He doesn't even look lika a protester, just like a dude trying to go somewhere.  :-\

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gttn8f/slc_pd_cop_shoves_elderly_man_with_walking_stick/

this was an old man waiting for the bus
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 04, 2020, 10:26:11 PM
This whole situation is beyond my emotional and mental limits
Bless up man. I've been fucked up for days. No shame in admitting that this is hard to deal with.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 04, 2020, 10:29:21 PM


https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gttn8f/slc_pd_cop_shoves_elderly_man_with_walking_stick/

this was an old man waiting for the bus

VIOLENT PROTESTS IN SALT LAKE CITY:

Chasing around a dude who looks to be in his late 50's/early 60's and shoving an 75+ year old man who has difficulty walking.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 10:29:25 PM
Ya, I was bedridden for two weeks before this and missed an important deadline for school, that was leading into this and the last week I've been going pretty nuts with anger and frustration.  My mental state is not great. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 04, 2020, 10:31:41 PM
This whole situation is beyond my emotional and mental limits
Bless up man. I've been fucked up for days. No shame in admitting that this is hard to deal with.

I try to emotionally distance myself from videos like that by reminding myself that there is an ocean between me and those events. Not the best approach, but there isn't much I can do anyway
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 10:35:59 PM
https://twitter.com/MarleeTuskesTV/status/1268732525448441856


It also seems like he is in the hospital and stable. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EchoRin on June 04, 2020, 10:39:10 PM
https://twitter.com/EricHaywood/status/1268705772222836736

Damn. Talk about letting someone CUCK you and then smirk in your face

 :kermit

*shrug*
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 04, 2020, 10:40:33 PM
https://twitter.com/WBFO/status/1268712530358292484

blood warning

This is going to blow up

that one cop was like "let me help you......" blood, "bye"

Notice how it's the national guard that steps up to actually help and assess.

fucking bunch of cowardly power tripping children with badges.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 04, 2020, 10:44:38 PM
I try to emotionally distance myself from videos like that by reminding myself that there is an ocean between me and those events. Not the best approach, but there isn't much I can do anyway
I spent all of last year watching innocent people get shot in their own streets in other countries but it's completely different when it's your own government attacking your own people. It just makes you sick in a way you can't understand until it happens.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 04, 2020, 10:45:34 PM
I think it's time to start drug testing police officer for anabolic steroids.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 04, 2020, 10:45:54 PM
God protect the Buffalo target
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 04, 2020, 10:48:01 PM
I try to emotionally distance myself from videos like that by reminding myself that there is an ocean between me and those events. Not the best approach, but there isn't much I can do anyway
I spent all of last year watching innocent people get shot in their own streets in other countries but it's completely different when it's your own government attacking your own people. It just makes you sick in a way you can't understand until it happens.

I get that, my father told me that when martial law was imposed to squash the Solidarnosc movement, he deciced that this wasn't his country anymore and wanted to flee, even though if it meant leaving everything behind.
He never liked the communist party to begin with but that was the final straw.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: remy on June 04, 2020, 10:48:04 PM
https://twitter.com/MarleeTuskesTV/status/1268732525448441856


It also seems like he is in the hospital and stable.
Suspensions again. Fuck my life. Love how cops are subject to the law like the rest of us
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 04, 2020, 10:50:19 PM
It's about identifying with the victim.  All of this is bad, but it's about the thing that makes you at a gut level go this is so wrong, and unfortunately that's not seeing a black man die over 8 minutes or young hippies getting gassed to a lot of people.

It's fucked up but the second best thing you can do as a respectable-looking white person at a protest like this is to deter the police from violence (like the NOW ladies who formed a human wall), and the best thing you can do is be the one getting brutalized where everyone can see it.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 10:50:30 PM
Ya I hope there is a reckoning in Buffalo tomorrow

https://twitter.com/icecube/status/1268726408907419648
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 04, 2020, 10:52:28 PM
"a possible concussion"


.....


 :cac
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on June 04, 2020, 10:54:49 PM
What the FUCK is wrong with these people?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 10:55:09 PM
It's about identifying with the victim.  All of this is bad, but it's about the thing that makes you at a gut level go this is so wrong, and unfortunately that's not seeing a black man die over 8 minutes or young hippies getting gassed to a lot of people.

It's fucked up but the second best thing you can do as a respectable-looking white person at a protest like this is to deter the police from violence (like the NOW ladies who formed a human wall), and the best thing you can do is be the one getting brutalized where everyone can see it.

Pretty sure that is the best thing anyone can do for a protest of police violence.  The whole point should be to entice police into using unacceptable violence on camera and the whole thing is fucked.  The black man has to die on camera so that black people burn the cop cars on camera so that people feel compelled to join the event so that more black people can be beaten on camera so that the white old man comes out in Buffalo to be beaten on camera. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 04, 2020, 10:58:35 PM
i can just imagine the pre march hype machine

"This is our city! they're not burning it down, if anyone is gonna burn it down it's gonna be us!"
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 04, 2020, 11:01:26 PM
https://twitter.com/Bern4Bern/status/1268727410897358849

https://twitter.com/AxlWason/status/1268732914218434560

GODDAMNIT TORGALSKI!  :riot
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 04, 2020, 11:04:26 PM
Damn Poles  :maf
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on June 04, 2020, 11:04:36 PM
I'm starting to think that " a couple of bad apples" may not explain the US Police issue fully. :thinking
Perhaps should be rephrased as "a couple of good apples".
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 04, 2020, 11:06:36 PM
I'm the millionth person to point it out, but the phrase is "One bad apple can spoil the bunch."
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 04, 2020, 11:06:59 PM
It's about identifying with the victim.  All of this is bad, but it's about the thing that makes you at a gut level go this is so wrong, and unfortunately that's not seeing a black man die over 8 minutes or young hippies getting gassed to a lot of people.

It's fucked up but the second best thing you can do as a respectable-looking white person at a protest like this is to deter the police from violence (like the NOW ladies who formed a human wall), and the best thing you can do is be the one getting brutalized where everyone can see it.

Pretty sure that is the best thing anyone can do for a protest of police violence.  The whole point should be to entice police into using unacceptable violence on camera and the whole thing is fucked.  The black man has to die on camera so that black people burn the cop cars on camera so that people feel compelled to join the event so that more black people can be beaten on camera so that the white old man comes out in Buffalo to be beaten on camera.
how much is any of this being shown on national tv? seeing twitter vids with millions of views is cool, but the dirty dems proved the chad msm beats out the virgin social media during the primary  :larry
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 04, 2020, 11:08:06 PM
NYPD has pretty much successfully enforced the curfew today, as of 11pm. We'll see what happens during the weekend.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 11:08:27 PM
Another video.

Dozens of cops and like four protestors

https://mobile.twitter.com/KatieGibasTV/status/1268702159295655938
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 04, 2020, 11:09:52 PM
I'm starting to think that " a couple of bad apples" may not explain the US Police issue fully. :thinking
Perhaps should be rephrased as "a couple of good apples".
the brehs who flew into the twin towers were just a couple of bad apples, can't blame all of alqaeda for a couple of bad freedom fighters  :trumps
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 04, 2020, 11:12:05 PM
Another video.

Dozens of cops and like four protestors

https://mobile.twitter.com/KatieGibasTV/status/1268702159295655938

Ugh, that one is hard to watch. His head smacking the pavement is so loud. :fbm
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 04, 2020, 11:13:47 PM
And ShitLibs want her to be president in a few years. :snoop

https://twitter.com/atbobb/status/1268611630738272259
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 04, 2020, 11:15:41 PM
And ShitLibs want her to be president in a few years. :snoop

https://twitter.com/atbobb/status/1268611630738272259
figured the cia trained her better than that  :maduro
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 11:21:01 PM
ABC has it

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 04, 2020, 11:22:04 PM
And ShitLibs want her to be president in a few years. :snoop

https://twitter.com/atbobb/status/1268611630738272259

It's better than wrapping a bandanna around your face, which was the point of her post.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on June 04, 2020, 11:22:12 PM
Another video.

Dozens of cops and like four protestors

https://mobile.twitter.com/KatieGibasTV/status/1268702159295655938
Yeah this really says it all about the Imperial-Officer-Larping.
"HOLD THE LINE!" dude, nobody's there.
Marching screaming against 2 journalists, an anemic looking guy with a skateboard and an old guy.

Reminds me of those people fantasizing about the zombie apocalypse, so they'd have an excuse to use all those assault rifles they've spent 100k on, only in this case, backed by the state.  ::)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Akala on June 04, 2020, 11:23:46 PM
Mexico going off as well it seems.

https://twitter.com/vivianaaa6/status/1268736846038630459

https://twitter.com/momanunez22/status/1268688105885712384
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 11:25:25 PM
It's about identifying with the victim.  All of this is bad, but it's about the thing that makes you at a gut level go this is so wrong, and unfortunately that's not seeing a black man die over 8 minutes or young hippies getting gassed to a lot of people.

It's fucked up but the second best thing you can do as a respectable-looking white person at a protest like this is to deter the police from violence (like the NOW ladies who formed a human wall), and the best thing you can do is be the one getting brutalized where everyone can see it.

Pretty sure that is the best thing anyone can do for a protest of police violence.  The whole point should be to entice police into using unacceptable violence on camera and the whole thing is fucked.  The black man has to die on camera so that black people burn the cop cars on camera so that people feel compelled to join the event so that more black people can be beaten on camera so that the white old man comes out in Buffalo to be beaten on camera.
how much is any of this being shown on national tv? seeing twitter vids with millions of views is cool, but the dirty dems proved the chad msm beats out the virgin social media during the primary  :larry

there seems to be a 6 hour delay from twitter to cnn.  oh cnn just talked about it.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 04, 2020, 11:26:01 PM
And ShitLibs want her to be president in a few years.

If we're keeping score, Bernie said yesterday we need to pay higher wages to attract better officers.

Maybe one of the lessons of this whole debacle is not emotionally overinvesting in individual politicians? Just throwing that out there.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 04, 2020, 11:28:37 PM
Maybe one of the lessons of this whole debacle is not emotionally overinvesting in individual politicians? Just throwing that out there.

No shit? Doesn't negate my point: AOC is being propped up by ShitLibs that think she farts unicorns and rainbows. Just like Cuomo was until recently.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 04, 2020, 11:29:34 PM
You say dumb things way more often than she does so have a little humility
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 11:30:17 PM
https://ustv247.tv/cnn-live-streaming/ about to start
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on June 04, 2020, 11:30:19 PM
And ShitLibs want her to be president in a few years.

If we're keeping score, Bernie said yesterday we need to pay higher wages to attract better officers.

Maybe one of the lessons of this whole debacle is not emotionally overinvesting in individual politicians? Just throwing that out there.

That guy was suspended and not fired.  Why are these police departments holding onto these guys like they're senior level engineers at a tech company, too costly to replace.  They're cops.  Any idiot can be a cop.  How are they not soaking up the labor supply?  These are not important or talented people.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on June 04, 2020, 11:30:29 PM
https://twitter.com/mjfree/status/1268739364630212610
Cops on bicycles must be like:
(https://i.imgur.com/eipugIu.jpg)
So they need to step up their violence.  :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 04, 2020, 11:33:38 PM
Cops on bicycles must be like:
https://i.imgur.com/eipugIu.jpg
So they need to step up their violence.  :doge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GkmUYTuXKk
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on June 04, 2020, 11:34:57 PM
And ShitLibs want her to be president in a few years.

If we're keeping score, Bernie said yesterday we need to pay higher wages to attract better officers.

Maybe one of the lessons of this whole debacle is not emotionally overinvesting in individual politicians? Just throwing that out there.

That guy was suspended and not fired.  Why are these police departments holding onto these guys like they're senior level engineers at a tech company, too costly to replace.  They're cops.  Any idiot can be a cop.  How are they not soaking up the labor supply?  These are not important or talented people.
That seems to be the key issue?
You can even fund the police adequately, but not spend that cash in distinguished mentally-challenged shit like APCs and military gear like you're stationed in Fallujah, which actually sends the opposite message about what a police force is even supposed to be, in a civilized society.
Being a cop definitely shouldn't be something any fucking idiot can sign up to do and get in.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 04, 2020, 11:36:50 PM
https://twitter.com/left_voice/status/1268718035424153601
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on June 04, 2020, 11:38:36 PM
And ShitLibs want her to be president in a few years.

If we're keeping score, Bernie said yesterday we need to pay higher wages to attract better officers.

Maybe one of the lessons of this whole debacle is not emotionally overinvesting in individual politicians? Just throwing that out there.

That guy was suspended and not fired.  Why are these police departments holding onto these guys like they're senior level engineers at a tech company, too costly to replace.  They're cops.  Any idiot can be a cop.  How are they not soaking up the labor supply?  These are not important or talented people.
That seems to be the key issue?
You can even fund the police adequately, but not spend that cash in distinguished mentally-challenged fellowed shit like APCs and military gear like you're stationed in Fallujah, which actually sends the opposite message about what a police force is even supposed to be, in a civilized society.
Being a cop definitely shouldn't be something any fucking idiot can sign up to do and get in.

But it is strange:  That cop was earning $80k+.  Surely you can afford to fire someone shitty and hire someone decent at that wage - and if you can't construct a way to test for decency upon hiring, at least fire the indecent people after the fact.  It doesn't make sense that they hold onto these people so tightly.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 04, 2020, 11:40:43 PM
https://ustv247.tv/cnn-live-streaming/ about to start
it's a cop on acting like he cares  ::)

" sympathetic tank(retired) interviewed about tank brutality in tianmen square: says tanks know better and this has to stop!"
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 04, 2020, 11:42:53 PM
That seems to be the key issue?
You can even fund the police adequately, but not spend that cash in distinguished mentally-challenged fellowed shit like APCs and military gear like you're stationed in Fallujah, which actually sends the opposite message about what a police force is even supposed to be, in a civilized society.
Being a cop definitely shouldn't be something any fucking idiot can sign up to do and get in.

If the job entails asserting your authority on other people (physically and otherwise) and has a culture of impunity, trying to only hire angels won't change much. Dozens of Buffalo PD walked by that old man as he was lying on the ground and bleeding not because every individual one of them was a particularly bad person, but because of what sort of behavior the system rewards, punishes, and conditions the officers to see as normal.

Better screening probably couldn't hurt though. I just wouldn't put too much hope into it.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 04, 2020, 11:48:48 PM
cnn trying to spin police brutality as a trump problem  :titus
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on June 05, 2020, 12:07:18 AM
That seems to be the key issue?
You can even fund the police adequately, but not spend that cash in distinguished mentally-challenged fellowed shit like APCs and military gear like you're stationed in Fallujah, which actually sends the opposite message about what a police force is even supposed to be, in a civilized society.
Being a cop definitely shouldn't be something any fucking idiot can sign up to do and get in.

If the job entails asserting your authority on other people (physically and otherwise) and has a culture of impunity, trying to only hire angels won't change much. Dozens of Buffalo PD walked by that old man as he was lying on the ground and bleeding not because every individual one of them was a particularly bad person, but because of what sort of behavior the system rewards, punishes, and conditions the officers to see as normal.

Better screening probably couldn't hurt though. I just wouldn't put too much hope into it.
I agree, and "hiring better people" is such an abstract condition in practical terms, that means little, beyond "don't give a badge to the psychopath with the Mussolini tattoo" (a standard most police institutions around the world are still below, nevertheless).
Still, i think you can consider the concept of "funding" beyond the idea of larger wages, and "better training" shouldn't just mean: better ways to beat the shit out of people.
Basically, start from renouncing the idea that a cop is merely a guard dog to capital interest.
This is a cultural shift that takes decades, anyway.

I don't like to generalize the idea of police brutality as just a global phenomenon, because it takes away from what is clearly a huge issue in the US in particular, but it is true to an extent that the position tends to attract a certain type of person ( ::)).
So that type of behavior is really what you should specifically look for, identify, and curtail as much as possible.

As an outside observer, this seems especially hard for the US, because it looks like a society particularly uncaring in structure (from work culture, to healthcare, bootstrap rhetorics, homelessness), but again, that's just the view from my distorted lens.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 05, 2020, 12:11:44 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/pgLo7At.jpg)

slime the police!  :rejoice
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 05, 2020, 12:11:48 AM
speaking of outsider perspective:

I have never seen a police force as ruthless as the Carabinieri. While the rgular police was mostly chill, the carabinieri pulled out their baton just for looking at them funny.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 05, 2020, 12:12:14 AM
https://twitter.com/mkultranews/status/1268750404130504705
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 05, 2020, 12:12:46 AM
https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1268754050109014017

Normal country
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on June 05, 2020, 12:26:37 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/DWZxrnV_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

You forgot:  Kappa
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 05, 2020, 12:27:57 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/DWZxrnV_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

Didn't they do this in 2016 as well, offering crocodile tears?

Then it turned out they were instigators
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 05, 2020, 12:30:42 AM
they've been roasting the U.S. over it's shitty treatment of Black people since like the 1800's
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on June 05, 2020, 12:30:57 AM
No I didn't.

No offense, but both Russia and China can also suck my dick.

they've been roasting the U.S. over it's shitty treatment of Black people since like the 1800's

*Insert Etiolate post*
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 05, 2020, 12:33:40 AM
No I didn't.

iOS giant dads like me can't see anything  :(
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on June 05, 2020, 12:37:55 AM
speaking of outsider perspective:

I have never seen a police force as ruthless as the Carabinieri. While the rgular police was mostly chill, the carabinieri pulled out their baton just for looking at them funny.
The raid on the Diaz (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Raid_on_Armando_Diaz) had both Police and Caramba, and Celerini are police, so i wouldn't call either "chill"  :lol.
But the Carabinieri are a military force, so i guess that taints the expectations.
Although Cucchi's murder is still pretty fresh in everyone's mind.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 05, 2020, 12:39:04 AM
No I didn't.
:kermit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 05, 2020, 12:46:08 AM
https://twitter.com/JaneOst_/status/1268734768931364865


Oof
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on June 05, 2020, 12:46:24 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/DWZxrnV_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

https://twitter.com/sheidlina/status/1266828034675441668
https://twitter.com/o_tulp/status/1267139381464350723
https://twitter.com/o_tulp/status/1267433306880200705
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 05, 2020, 12:49:43 AM
brb registering @RussiaDimitri and @USAHank as my twitter handles
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EchoRin on June 05, 2020, 01:20:19 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/peaceful-protesters-indiana-marched-armed-235502416.html

"gotta stand 'ere with mah death machine. Wut wut? It's muh right. Totally don't mean nothing by it. Nope"

The fuck man? Some people will never get it.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: remy on June 05, 2020, 01:22:39 AM
:stahp :lol

https://twitter.com/josh_wingrove/status/1268507783613341696

When you looked like a deranged moron and Piers Morgan seems smart and rational you've really lost your mind  :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 05, 2020, 01:47:45 AM
Its so damn twisted how we treat elders in this society. God damn, makes me sick

Yeah I dont like this violence. Why couldnt we just let corona kill them like nature wanted.  >:(
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 05, 2020, 01:56:03 AM
https://twitter.com/KJonez/status/1268760859851001857

https://twitter.com/UAProgressives/status/1268765201563824128
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 05, 2020, 02:02:05 AM
lol cops might as well be aliens at this point wtf

:piss :cop :piss2
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Rufus on June 05, 2020, 05:11:24 AM
That guy was suspended and not fired.  Why are these police departments holding onto these guys like they're senior level engineers at a tech company, too costly to replace.  They're cops.  Any idiot can be a cop.  How are they not soaking up the labor supply?  These are not important or talented people.
They want the sadists, because that's what police work is to them. If you can't put your knee on a restrained person's neck for 8 minutes, or tase an incapacitated person dozens of times, or watch emotionlessly as it happens in front of you, you're just not good police. Compassionate human beings are unfit for duty.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 05, 2020, 07:01:13 AM
Seems to me like they "get it" just fine how often these "peaceful protests" around the nation have come with vandalism, arson, theft, robbery, and murder.

Remember those dudes in Fishtown who attacked a reporter just for recording what they were doing out in the open?

If you're so concerned that a group of people may turn to mob violence, why assume the good intentions of this group of (armed) people? What precludes the possibility that they may act violent?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 05, 2020, 07:17:11 AM
Seems to me like they "get it" just fine how often these "peaceful protests" around the nation have come with vandalism, arson, theft, robbery, and murder.  Their right to assembly is being exercised too, and their message is more coherent. 

Better a clear deterrent presence showing strength and self-reliance than waiting on police to show up

Premise 1: If you see members of a group committing violence repeatedly, you can impute those crimes the group as a whole and respond accordingly.

(And of course, the various shitheel cops who have shown up and attacked people not doing anything, and yes, they deserve to be prosecuted.

Premise 2: Members of the police have been filmed committing violence repeatedly.



Conclusion: :pika
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 05, 2020, 07:45:04 AM

Like seriously, even the most leftist union-loving derps among you have to, if you think about, scratch your head and wonder why a public employee needs a union - they work for you.  You pay them.  If they're being mistreated by their employer or whatever reason you all commonly wheel out for unions being a good thing, the remedy is they tell you, the voter, and you vote out the people in charge.  If you think they deserve a pay raise or a pay cut, you vote for that and it happens.  How is it in your interest as a citizen or a taxpayer to have this middleman?  It isn't, whatever you think about private unions... it isn't, and it never will be.  So why tolerate it?  It's incomprehensible.)

I'll talk about other countries because I don't want a debate about NACAB, but people who do jobs that benefit society tend to do so for vocational or aspirational reasons, not for personal financial benefit, and as such are routinely pushed to their limits by people trying to save a buck who put no monetary value on doing a job correctly.

And they mostly get away with it, because teachers don't want to see children deprived of an education, nurses and doctors in state funded hospitals don't want to see sick people go untreated, social workers don't want to see vulnerable people left without assistance, and police don't want to see neighbourhoods and communities that they may even live in go to shit.

They remove personal guilt from people doing those jobs that it is not being 'selfish' to demand things like maximum worked hours per week or a minimum livable wage, and to let them know that they are not alone struggling. People who only care about the finances would happily make social services privatised and turned into for-profit organisations, as it absolves the state of certain responsibilities it has to its citizens.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 05, 2020, 08:11:41 AM
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2460202

Quote
We estimate the impact of nurse unions on health care quality using patient discharge data and the universe of hospital unionizations in California between 1996 and 2005. We find that hospitals with a successful union election outperform hospitals with a failed election in 12 of 13 nurse sensitive patient outcomes measures. We also find that hospitals with a unionization drive are establishments with declining quality as measured by patient outcomes. When such declines are accounted for using hospital-specific trends, we find that unionized hospitals also outperform hospitals without any union election in the same 12 of 13 outcome measures.The timing of the quality improvement is consistent with a causal impact: the largest changes occur precisely in the year of unionization. The biggest improvements are found in the incidence of metabolic derangement, pulmonary failure, and central nervous system disorders such as depression and delusion, where the estimated changes are between 15% and 60% of the mean incidence for those measures. Dynamic estimates confirm that the improvements in health care outcomes occur within the first two years following nurse unionization.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 05, 2020, 08:25:35 AM
It's not even 8:30 AM and I've seen videos of cops groping and then beating a woman for resisting and throwing another woman to the ground for asking "why her" and 5 more cops swarming an already downed woman, as well as cops having a dog bite the shit out of a dude on the ground and cuffed  :pacspit fuck this country

That the one when the cop gropes her then apparently they need five to one woman? Loved how the guy who groped her got popped and she managed to free herself for a moment.

These cops are fucked in the head.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jorma on June 05, 2020, 09:01:50 AM
In my own experience, unions are far from useless.
HR departments tho? Why even bother, they are always trash.  :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 05, 2020, 09:05:55 AM
I was just thinking, best chance to flip jaydubya on this is to explain to him that labor unions are the underlying problem.

 :bernie
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tasty on June 05, 2020, 09:11:14 AM
lol cops might as well be aliens at this point wtf

:piss :cop :piss2

They Live remake but instead of aliens being everyone they're just cops and authority figures

Climax takes place in the White House
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cryo on June 05, 2020, 09:46:32 AM
Explain to me again why you want a middleman so you can't hire or promote or increase pay based upon merit, fire or demote or decrease pay directly on merit, but instead want seniority-based hierarchies and this secondary organization with its own distinct political influence and agenda between you and your employees?  If you really want to pay them more, whatever your motives, it's simple, you get enough other people to agree with you and you vote for more funds for police wages.
meritocracies don't exist in our universe, though.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 05, 2020, 09:53:48 AM
Of those, I recognize police as relevant to the topic; taxpayers shouldn't be footing any money for the employment of anyone else you mentioned, and a responsible state which respected our human rights would not.

So as a thought experiment, do you think society is generally more or less safe having a well educated, healthy and mentally sound population at large?
Let me put it more simply; do you think a society comprised of desperate individuals is more or less likely to be safe and in good order?

If you can envisage that a healthy society is comprised of healthy citizens, then it logically follows that those services are not in fact irrelevant to crime, and that if those aspects benefit society as a whole, it also benefits society to have those services exist at a decent quality by paying to ensure that.


If I understand you correctly, you're saying cops are cops for benevolent reasons and don't care so much about being paid, so they need a union to argue for them so they get paid better.

I'm saying that earning money is not a primary motivator for people who go into those kinds of jobs; they have alternate motivations.
Some of those motivations are benevolent to society (wishing to see a crime free and ordered society).
Others are not (wishing to exert power over others).

Their wage on the other hand is still a matter of them agreeing to work for an employer at a rate they and the employer agree upon.  We are the employer. 

Explain to me again why you want a middleman so you can't hire or promote or increase pay based upon merit, fire or demote or decrease pay directly on merit, but instead want seniority-based hierarchies and this secondary organization with its own distinct political influence and agenda between you and your employees?  If you really want to pay them more, whatever your motives, it's simple, you get enough other people to agree with you and you vote for more funds for police wages.

Why have managers in the private sector at all then?
It's the shareholders who pay peoples wages, so the shareholders should be free to dictate the terms under which employees work, and they can just leave if they don't like it.

Because the relationship between tax-payer and public sector worker is just as abstracted as that between a stock trader and a private employee.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 05, 2020, 10:15:52 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/Z1lv6oW.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 05, 2020, 10:19:28 AM
So it's over now right?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 05, 2020, 10:21:05 AM
What's the update on the old man with the broken dome



Maybe it is time to call in the military to put down the police

Two officers suspended, don't know any update about him personally.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EchoRin on June 05, 2020, 10:21:24 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/Z1lv6oW.jpg)

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/f26bf7c2d942951d95c4f576e5b60086/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 05, 2020, 10:21:59 AM
He was in hospital and stable last night. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 05, 2020, 10:23:04 AM
twitter.com/Satellit3Heart/status/1268863536299675648
Cops exposed giving preferential treatment to a group designated by the FBI as violent extremists? That's Justice June :trumps
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 05, 2020, 11:22:51 AM
for fuck sakes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgGORxzuoxQ
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 05, 2020, 11:23:46 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/0zu3dQv.png)

That other cop is like "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING ASSHOLE"
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 05, 2020, 11:25:37 AM
https://www.sfexaminer.com/news/sf-officer-involved-in-shooting-death-of-homeless-man-quits-while-facing-discipline-lands-new-job-in-antioch/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 05, 2020, 11:33:52 AM
https://twitter.com/RespectableLaw/status/1267211844646768644

(https://i.imgur.com/Ay8jQl4.jpg)

This tweet thread is amazing
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 05, 2020, 11:40:23 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/RandazzoTweets/status/1268608526491910145
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 05, 2020, 11:41:10 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZZRuApXsAADmev?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 05, 2020, 11:57:23 AM
https://twitter.com/Gwenda/status/1268926300758183937?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 05, 2020, 12:00:59 PM
Just watched that video, Why did he grab that child like Biden?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 05, 2020, 12:04:32 PM
Just watched that video, Why did he grab that child like Biden?

She was attempting to deface public property.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 05, 2020, 12:17:32 PM
You know what will fix racism? Keep electing white people born in the 1940's.


Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Akala on June 05, 2020, 12:21:12 PM
https://twitter.com/AlxThomp/status/1268920459426439169

I almost posted that in the good vibes thread.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 05, 2020, 12:45:18 PM
https://twitter.com/lilyslynch/status/1268890164757172225
Why the hell would you do this. It's a disabled guy in a wheelchair  ???
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 05, 2020, 12:48:42 PM
https://www.sltrib.com/news/education/2020/06/03/weber-state-professor/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on June 05, 2020, 12:50:06 PM
https://twitter.com/lilyslynch/status/1268890164757172225
Why the hell would you do this. It's a disabled guy in a wheelchair  ???

Because his wheelchair was clearly about to transform into this  ::)

(http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/deadrising/images/2/2d/Dead_rising_Blitzkrieg.png/revision/latest?cb=20140409154049)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 05, 2020, 12:50:14 PM
Why the hell would you do this. It's a disabled guy in a wheelchair  ???

begin with the premise that someone is getting shot

you don't want to shoot a white karen who will karen all day on her social media about what happened to her

you don't want to shoot someone with the level of involvedness/agency to complain at town council meetings and action committees

you don't want to shoot an able-bodied person because then you have the chance of disabling them and creating a sob story
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 05, 2020, 12:50:25 PM
Powerful speech from Trump

Hopefully, George is looking down right now and saying, ‘This is a great thing happening for our country,” Trump said of Floyd, who was killed in police custody last week. “A great day for him, a great day for everybody. This is great day for everybody.”

 :doge :brain
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 05, 2020, 12:51:31 PM
beating the shit out  of homeless people is a longstanding treasured cop activity
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 05, 2020, 12:52:01 PM
https://twitter.com/lilyslynch/status/1268890164757172225
Why the hell would you do this. It's a disabled guy in a wheelchair  ???

Because his wheelchair was clearly about to transform into this  ::)

(http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/deadrising/images/2/2d/Dead_rising_Blitzkrieg.png/revision/latest?cb=20140409154049)

I raise you

(https://external-preview.redd.it/zFYWYwVuT1jZkNt4SbzrKG9jfLMyk3Ir2WLElkNSOdA.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=2b5529ba0f8e069f2144732c22d1561fc33f4f17)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 05, 2020, 12:57:54 PM
Powerful speech from Trump

Hopefully, George is looking down right now and saying, ‘This is a great thing happening for our country,” Trump said of Floyd, who was killed in police custody last week. “A great day for him, a great day for everybody. This is great day for everybody.”

 :doge :brain
Just wait when George Floyd hears the DOW hit 30k.
He's gonna be so happy his star will shine brighter.

Not to mention when Iran is defeated in honor of George Floyd  :salute
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 05, 2020, 01:19:00 PM
https://twitter.com/Robillard/status/1268943311752003584
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 05, 2020, 01:20:40 PM
https://twitter.com/Robillard/status/1268943311752003584
Sounds like only 13% of Antifa needs to be jailed / droned to win in November  :thinking
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 05, 2020, 01:31:22 PM
https://twitter.com/Robillard/status/1268943311752003584

I get it, some of the footage is out of context, the media has been trying to downplay police violence and there is always some cognitive dissonance happenig.

But how can almost 6 out of 10 people say: This is fine or not enough even?

If those numbers are representative, the country is a lost cause.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 05, 2020, 01:32:30 PM
Most people aren't on Twitter getting inundated with police violence every day. They might see a few instances here and there but that can be explained away as isolated incidents.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 05, 2020, 01:33:26 PM
(https://preview.redd.it/kyunju57d3351.jpg?width=702&auto=webp&s=0b0f3d783d875a70026a4d689c1f7397771d4667)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 05, 2020, 01:37:38 PM
https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/5/21281744/reddit-co-founder-alexis-ohanian-resigns-board
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on June 05, 2020, 01:38:43 PM
beating the shit out  of homeless people is a longstanding treasured cop activity

Also a Wahlberg family tradition.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on June 05, 2020, 01:41:16 PM
Wait, what:

https://youtu.be/Il1ce0UplZI

WTF
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 05, 2020, 01:42:18 PM
Most people aren't on Twitter getting inundated with police violence every day. They might see a few instances here and there but that can be explained away as isolated incidents.

Yeah. TV media seems to be trying to be fair and balanced showing the looters as well. havent seen a lot of tv segments besides this one?

https://youtu.be/0GAL6ha_Dsc

Last night Don Lemon on CNN was showing the footage of the Australian news crew get smacked around and the old guy getting his head cracked, and then contrasting it with the official police version of what happened.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 05, 2020, 01:43:07 PM
:yikes

imagine being 37 and "supporting" a company.

:girlaff
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 05, 2020, 01:44:01 PM
Wait, what:

https://youtu.be/Il1ce0UplZI

WTF
Another victim of
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on June 05, 2020, 01:45:40 PM
Most people aren't on Twitter getting inundated with police violence every day. They might see a few instances here and there but that can be explained away as isolated incidents.

Stuff like the Today Show (don’t ask why I know this  :doge) are still playing shit like a family dog cuddling a new born baby, or gushing over the Space X launch and calling it good news to lift the country’s spirit.

Tbf, they also showed the old dude getting pushed over on the concrete, but only for five seconds before transitioning to one of their chucklefuck hosts cooking some shit in his home.

The willful ignorance on display is insane.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 05, 2020, 01:46:21 PM
Wait, what:

https://youtu.be/Il1ce0UplZI

WTF

Woah, everyone, we should definitely listen to the guy who struggles to get triple digit views on his videos, I think he's onto something!  :girlaff
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 05, 2020, 01:49:00 PM
Wait, what:

https://youtu.be/Il1ce0UplZI

WTF

Woah, everyone, we should definitely listen to the guy who struggles to get triple digits view on his videos, I think he's onto something!  :girlaff

FACT CHECK: Nobody wanted to read Kafka‘s stories when he was alive. :karen
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 05, 2020, 01:50:08 PM
When this loser makes a video about turning into a giant cockroach, then I'll be interested in hearing him out. :win
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on June 05, 2020, 01:51:10 PM
Hold this L, NYT Defense Force :ufup

https://twitter.com/PatrickCoffee/status/1268947229907259393

I mean, that actually sounds sketchy and a legit complain  rather than “we didn’t like the Opinion piece”. That actually sounds like someone in the OP-ED team should been kicked out.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on June 05, 2020, 01:52:16 PM
Wait, what:

https://youtu.be/Il1ce0UplZI

WTF

Are we supposed to know who that is, or...

Of course not. I’m just posting here because I wanted to mock him.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 05, 2020, 01:52:26 PM
Stuff like the Today Show (don’t ask why I know this  :doge)
all of us still reluctantly consume some level of normie news between our mountain dew fueled shitposting sessions, no shame in that :yeshrug

Anyway I don't know if it's entirely willful ignorance? I think traditional media is hesitant to really integrate the new, democratic media. During these protests it's clear that the best way to stay informed is to go on Twitter, follow people you trust, and see what they're sharing. In that model there's almost no role for traditional information filters. So it's no wonder they'd have trouble adapting. Of course I agree still that a lot of them just don't care at the end of the day
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 05, 2020, 01:55:11 PM
When this loser makes a video about turning into a giant cockroach, then I'll be interested in hearing him out. :win

I expected a Final Fantasy VI reference. I won’t pretend that i am not disappointed.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 05, 2020, 01:55:17 PM
Hold this L, NYT Defense Force :ufup

https://twitter.com/PatrickCoffee/status/1268947229907259393

This is how a lot of pieces work in publishing

Nyt was prob like "this will generate a lot of traffic" lets get this guy to write a piece
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 05, 2020, 01:55:24 PM
He seems to have a pulse, maybe he can run for Senator of Alaska
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 05, 2020, 01:57:14 PM
When this loser makes a video about turning into a giant cockroach, then I'll be interested in hearing him out. :win

I expected a Final Fantasy VI reference. I won’t pretend that i am not disappointed.

:trumps
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 05, 2020, 01:59:09 PM
Oh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vRez6SL7JA

Alpha :neogaf as he holds a child game.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on June 05, 2020, 02:01:25 PM
I mean, that actually sounds sketchy and a legit complain  rather than “we didn’t like the Opinion piece”. That actually sounds like someone in the OP-ED team should been kicked out.

Like I said the NYT uses the opinion page to intentionally turf all sorts of bullshit that wouldn't fly under the normal brand and has since forever,  turns out it's true and i was correct.

 :trumps

Legit congrats. My issue was always people complaining about mixing opinion section with the opinion of the staff, but if the actual OP-ED team is fishing to have those takes then that actually changes my opinion of the situation.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on June 05, 2020, 02:02:42 PM
Hold this L, NYT Defense Force :ufup

https://twitter.com/PatrickCoffee/status/1268947229907259393

This is how a lot of pieces work in publishing

Nyt was prob like "this will generate a lot of traffic" lets get this guy to write a piece

Then people have all the reason to complain about them promoting shitty and dangerous opinions.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 05, 2020, 02:04:42 PM
Hold this L, NYT Defense Force :ufup

https://twitter.com/PatrickCoffee/status/1268947229907259393

Is this, "Find someone who wants to send the troops in", "Find someone who wants to try and defend whats happening" or "Find out what a prominent Republicans take on the news is"?

Because only the first one is particularly objectionable in and of itself.
Finding out what the thought process of someone looking at what's going on and saying "this is fine" is newsworthy.

Anyway I don't know if it's entirely willful ignorance? I think traditional media is hesitant to really integrate the new, democratic media. During these protests it's clear that the best way to stay informed is to go on Twitter, follow people you trust, and see what they're sharing. In that model there's almost no role for traditional information filters. So it's no wonder they'd have trouble adapting. Of course I agree still that a lot of them just don't care at the end of the day

The amount of disinformation being pushed and general lack of fact checking on stuff via twitter is insane.
Yeah traditional media is slower to the punch, but at least there's a semblance of vetting claims and getting independent verifications before running stories.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 05, 2020, 02:06:29 PM
Hold this L, NYT Defense Force :ufup

https://twitter.com/PatrickCoffee/status/1268947229907259393

This is how a lot of pieces work in publishing

Nyt was prob like "this will generate a lot of traffic" lets get this guy to write a piece

They should get in touch with Lindsay Graham to do a an op ed on how to pick up women.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 05, 2020, 02:08:11 PM
stuff about the times, stuff about Twitter misinformation

You're a smart guy and we've had some fun together but your takes lately have been trash, you carry way too much water for people who don't deserve it because you're too concerned about the reasonable middle, and that's the tea :kermit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 05, 2020, 02:09:20 PM

You're a smart guy and we've had some fun together but your takes lately have been trash, you carry way too much water for people who don't deserve it because you're too concerned about the reasonable middle, and that's the tea :kermit

Esch annihilated :punch
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on June 05, 2020, 02:09:31 PM
Quote
Is this, "Find someone who wants to send the troops in", "Find someone who wants to try and defend whats happening" or "Find out what a prominent Republicans take on the news is"?

Because only the first one is particularly objectionable in and of itself.
Finding out what the thought process of someone looking at what's going on and saying "this is fine" is newsworthy.

Tom Cotton is a well known nutcase. The fact it was not him who approached them and more the editorial team decision is the thing that changes the opinion of the whole situation.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on June 05, 2020, 02:17:38 PM
stuff about the times, stuff about Twitter misinformation

You're a smart guy and we've had some fun together but your takes lately have been trash, you carry way too much water for people who don't deserve it because you're too concerned about the reasonable middle, and that's the tea :kermit

I don’t think is so much carrying water for old media companies but more a warning that “I take the word from this from this social media dude” is still a recipe for contributing to disinformation.

Is the same logic in which MAGA pricks operate.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 05, 2020, 02:18:07 PM
Who the hell cares about the NYT  :idont
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 05, 2020, 02:18:45 PM
I already said "pick people you trust". That's the same thing as picking news media you trust!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 05, 2020, 02:19:29 PM
Wait, what:

https://youtu.be/Il1ce0UplZI

WTF

:crazy :crazy :crazy :crazy

This dude makes resetera look sane.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on June 05, 2020, 02:19:34 PM
Who the hell cares about the NYT  :idont

A lot of people given that nobody seems to stop complaining about it.

Though it seems they actually had a point.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 05, 2020, 02:20:48 PM
stuff about the times, stuff about Twitter misinformation

You're a smart guy and we've had some fun together but your takes lately have been trash, you carry way too much water for people who don't deserve it because you're too concerned about the reasonable middle, and that's the tea :kermit

Literally the only control you have over events is how you respond to them.
Over the last few days I've seen screenshots from World War Z used to portray a post-rioting landscape, anti crash barriers outside a synagogue used to portray evidence of police agents provocateurs, and footage from a canadian hockey riot to show that love can bloom on the battlefield, all unquestioningly retweeted by people that want the story that disinformation supports.


Tom Cotton is a well known nutcase. The fact it was not him who approached them and more the editorial team decision is the thing that changes the opinion of the whole situation.

That's why I'm asking what the full story on this is; if they went to a known nutcase and asked for his hottest take, that's a different thing to the only person they could find being willing to speak out in support being a nutcase.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 05, 2020, 02:20:51 PM
I already said "pick people you trust". That's the same thing as picking news media you trust!

Follow shosty for rage posts
Follow Mr. Gilhaney for the latest Garfield news.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on June 05, 2020, 02:22:18 PM
I already said "pick people you trust". That's the same thing as picking news media you trust!

Then is not a exactly a novel way of consume news.  :trumps
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 05, 2020, 02:25:18 PM
EDGY AF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPC4wpaUBVA

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Orgy version
:neogaf
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Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 05, 2020, 02:26:53 PM
Please post these videos in the mad vibes or bad vibes thread respectively. Don‘t make me call an admin bork :karen
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 05, 2020, 02:56:42 PM
https://twitter.com/DaveGreber4/status/1268977512320819203
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 05, 2020, 02:57:32 PM
:dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 05, 2020, 02:58:46 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/97KMKcX.gif)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 05, 2020, 02:58:46 PM
https://twitter.com/ZaneBancroft4/status/1268978279693910019

:rejoice
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 05, 2020, 03:00:08 PM
stuff about the times, stuff about Twitter misinformation

You're a smart guy and we've had some fun together but your takes lately have been trash, you carry way too much water for people who don't deserve it because you're too concerned about the reasonable middle, and that's the tea :kermit

I don’t think is so much carrying water for old media companies but more a warning that “I take the word from this from this social media dude” is still a recipe for contributing to disinformation.

Is the same logic in which MAGA pricks operate.

in this thread alone there have been at least a dozen things posted and then later corrected/retracted

one I posted, saying a tiger was loose (it wasn't)

one someone else posted that I corrected, showing video of an "FBI" agent profiled by police (he wasn't FBI, and the video was from a year ago)

I've been scrolling back through other threads and timelines to look up videos and comments about all these events, and a bunch are simply deleted or banned already, within a week

there is plenty of stuff that is irrefutable which you won't see or learn about anywhere else, but there's also plenty that doesn't show or tell the whole story

(https://i.imgur.com/314W1cM.png)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 05, 2020, 03:02:35 PM
well thats exactly what the Washington post would say
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 05, 2020, 03:07:07 PM
https://www.theonion.com/buffalo-police-request-reinforcements-until-elderly-man-1843925008?utm_campaign=TheOnion&utm_content=1591381064&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_source=twitter
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 05, 2020, 03:08:22 PM
https://twitter.com/ZaneBancroft4/status/1268978279693910019

:rejoice

This is what I imagine the person who posted that looking like.

(https://scontent.fymq2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13233077_1205335516145904_7504851626254307304_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_sid=a4a2d7&_nc_ohc=pOjblkeWwm8AX-MhwWr&_nc_ht=scontent.fymq2-1.fna&oh=c1ac527c88379237174c3d91927348db&oe=5F010EE0)

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0e/8c/40/0e8c40f6499f8d5538df3c40c20edfad.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 05, 2020, 03:09:09 PM
https://twitter.com/ZaneBancroft4/status/1268978279693910019

:rejoice

This is what I imagine the person who posted that looking like.

(https://scontent.fymq2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13233077_1205335516145904_7504851626254307304_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_sid=a4a2d7&_nc_ohc=pOjblkeWwm8AX-MhwWr&_nc_ht=scontent.fymq2-1.fna&oh=c1ac527c88379237174c3d91927348db&oe=5F010EE0)

Close enough I guess

(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1177981017317150722/ynKFzdor_400x400.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 05, 2020, 03:09:20 PM
https://fortwaynesnbc.com/2020/06/04/moment-of-silence-interrupted-during-george-floyd-vigil/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 05, 2020, 03:20:22 PM
One of those dudes looks like bn lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 05, 2020, 03:24:36 PM
Bills fans. :scust
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 05, 2020, 03:24:45 PM
https://twitter.com/DaveGreber4/status/1268977512320819203
Mission accomplished :trumps
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Akala on June 05, 2020, 03:33:59 PM
https://twitter.com/9Oskissy/status/1268976400196702208
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 05, 2020, 03:36:27 PM
I don't get it
Explain this to me like I am 5
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 05, 2020, 03:38:03 PM
I don't get it
Explain this to me like I am 5

No shadow from the sign.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 05, 2020, 03:39:21 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 05, 2020, 03:44:02 PM
Fake news apparently, it wasnt ever something she shared, someone else made the shop
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Akala on June 05, 2020, 03:44:35 PM
seeing that.  :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 05, 2020, 03:47:36 PM
Most people aren't on Twitter getting inundated with police violence every day. They might see a few instances here and there but that can be explained away as isolated incidents.

Stuff like the Today Show (don’t ask why I know this  :doge) are still playing shit like a family dog cuddling a new born baby, or gushing over the Space X launch and calling it good news to lift the country’s spirit.

Tbf, they also showed the old dude getting pushed over on the concrete, but only for five seconds before transitioning to one of their chucklefuck hosts cooking some shit in his home.

The willful ignorance on display is insane.
Quote
the chad msm beats out the virgin social media
:biden
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 05, 2020, 03:48:18 PM
Please post these videos in the mad vibes or bad vibes thread respectively. Don‘t make me call an admin bork :karen

ACAB
:riot
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 05, 2020, 03:49:06 PM
Justice June is taking people out at breakneck pace :lawd
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 05, 2020, 03:55:25 PM
https://twitter.com/bydanthony/status/1268371832178122752

Even the high school anime kids have come out to support. Holy shiiit.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 05, 2020, 03:59:21 PM
High schools are open? 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 05, 2020, 04:00:22 PM
Didn't you have that kid in high school that used to copy DBZ and do weird naruto runs in the halls and on break?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 05, 2020, 04:02:06 PM
No, And trust me, I kept running through the halls with my arms back trying to find them.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 05, 2020, 04:02:53 PM
:mike ohhh.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 05, 2020, 04:25:21 PM
in high school there was this kid who stood in the middle of the common area where everyone was milling around and he yelled "EVERYONE STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING.  WATCH THIS.  THIS IS BUTTERFLY ON MAX DIFFICULTY" and proceeded to do the entire DDR dance for what I must assume was Butterfly on max difficulty, with no music playing or dance pad
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 05, 2020, 04:32:26 PM
And that kids name was Nintex.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 05, 2020, 04:34:10 PM
:mike ohhh.
ever put your arms back while skating?  :steiner
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 05, 2020, 04:38:06 PM
https://twitter.com/SocialistAlt/status/1268981693316300801

 :juche
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on June 05, 2020, 04:39:35 PM
https://twitter.com/bydanthony/status/1268371832178122752

Even the high school anime kids have come out to support. Holy shiiit.

I legit didnt expect him pulling it out.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 05, 2020, 04:43:08 PM
:mike ohhh.
ever put your arms back while skating?  :steiner

Nah usually in front of me when I'm on the way the way down after fucking up again.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Steve Contra on June 05, 2020, 04:44:28 PM
Wait, what:

https://youtu.be/Il1ce0UplZI

WTF
for balance I’m only supporting gaming companies that want me dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 05, 2020, 04:51:34 PM
https://twitter.com/hannahmeisel/status/1269008344058155016
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 05, 2020, 04:52:13 PM
:titus

https://twitter.com/TooMuchMe/status/1268986246338134016

This shit cannot be real.

like what

:existential
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tuckers Law on June 05, 2020, 05:03:44 PM
More twists so far than a hundred lit E3’s.  No wonder they cancelled; the universe willed it so.  This June is wild.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 05, 2020, 05:10:29 PM
https://twitter.com/TheHousePlug_/status/1268972107347701763

Justice June goes BBRRRBBRRRRRR
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 05, 2020, 05:16:03 PM
More twists so far than a hundred lit E3’s.  No wonder they cancelled; the universe willed it so.  This June is wild.
(https://i.imgur.com/9GMMi72.png)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 05, 2020, 05:21:14 PM
I'm filing for copyright on this SHOSTA is trying to steal from me.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 05, 2020, 06:06:29 PM
Meltdown May never ended  :hmph
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EchoRin on June 05, 2020, 06:18:40 PM
In today's personal experience of "idiots totally missing the point of the protest":

Was walking down to pick up food for dinner and this young adult, maybe older teen latino guy goes to me in an intimidating way "wake up, this reality". I simply quipped "already did".

But what the hell man? Guy totally missed the point of these protests and is taking out his own problems on complete bystanders. Sure, it doesn't effect me cause I'm all in. But you're a young latino dude and pull that someone who is on the fence (let alone someone who is against), you are doing nothing but hurting the movement. Idiot. But I guess he couldn't give a damn in the first place. Just sucks that someone like that is hurting these protests instead of helping.

/rant about a morons hurting the movement
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 05, 2020, 06:23:15 PM
Like you wouldn't be posting about it if, he didn't offer any solidarity

Also at least do the better one

https://twitter.com/CTVNews/status/1268995199356866569
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 05, 2020, 06:47:46 PM
I understand the sentiment but I would be careful in calling to 'disband' the police in favor of 'something else' right now.
Especially because of the people currently in charge of creating that something else.

Before you know it the police is privatized and run by Eric Prince.
The last time the US disbanded a police force it didn't go so well.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 05, 2020, 06:53:08 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZwbweYWkAIaJCf?format=png)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZvtfG4XQAMFCM_?format=jpg)

lol wtf  :lol

We spend about 2% on defense and about 4% of the annual budget on the entire justice system (including police)  :mindblown
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 05, 2020, 06:57:00 PM
The comments of this (no benji) :whew

https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/1268945330139209729

Is that motherfucking pointing at the camera man with the gun? The dude with the canister for a dick?

 :mueller

Also, did they run out of regulation batons and just had someone turn wooden ones?

jfc
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 05, 2020, 07:01:34 PM
The dude with the canister for a dick?

(https://i.imgur.com/G85zL4m.gif)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Rufus on June 05, 2020, 07:07:55 PM
:titus

twitter.com/TooMuchMe/status/1268986246338134016


Donald Trump doesn't want absentee ballots because Demoncrats love voter fraud. The Republican cop who sets off a series of GLOBAL protests that threaten Trump's presidency and America's standing in the world....also has multiple counts of voter fraud. You literally can not write this shit.
The cherry on top of this pile of shit is that his last name is Chauvin.

This is all a simulation and Hideo Kojima is writing it.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 05, 2020, 07:14:57 PM
Those bar graphs leave out education, firefighting, and sanitation.

We spend a lot on police but it's not 90% of muni budgets.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 05, 2020, 07:30:26 PM
Someone more astute and less lazier than me would correlate servers going down for online games and an influx of cops beating people.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Bebpo on June 05, 2020, 07:33:08 PM
Those bar graphs leave out education, firefighting, and sanitation.

We spend a lot on police but it's not 90% of muni budgets.

Apparently in LA it's 54%

Which is still...insane. I never knew this and I think a whooooole lot of people whose taxpayer money is going towards this had no idea 50% of the entire city budgets are being paid to over-policing. Not sure if it'll make a difference as just another reason to piss people off, but yeah that is fucked up priorities for the city budget.

Does anyone know when policing became such a huge part of city budgets? Has it always been like this since 1776? Or was there some point in time when the police took over the cities and held the mayors and politicians hostage and began extorting all the money they can out of them?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 05, 2020, 07:35:27 PM
https://www.versobooks.com/books/2426-the-end-of-policing  is free today

someone posted an npr interview about it a day ago.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tasty on June 05, 2020, 07:43:55 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/jDvQfzo.jpg)

How I feel at this point 10000000%
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 05, 2020, 07:44:56 PM
Those bar graphs leave out education, firefighting, and sanitation.

We spend a lot on police but it's not 90% of muni budgets.

Apparently in LA it's 54%

Which is still...insane. I never knew this and I think a whooooole lot of people whose taxpayer money is going towards this had no idea 50% of the entire city budgets are being paid to over-policing. Not sure if it'll make a difference as just another reason to piss people off, but yeah that is fucked up priorities for the city budget.

Does anyone know when policing became such a huge part of city budgets? Has it always been like this since 1776? Or was there some point in time when the police took over the cities and held the mayors and politicians hostage and began extorting all the money they can out of them?
When I google for LA city budget or something like that I only get a mountain of articles about how the budget for the homeless is out of control and keeps going up.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 05, 2020, 07:47:50 PM
Apparently in LA it's 54%

In Baltimore it's about a third. I'm guessing the difference is the city of LA doesn't have school funding on its books?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tasty on June 05, 2020, 07:50:05 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/jDvQfzo.jpg)

How I feel at this point 10000000%

Have you renounced Google? :bolo

Gonna take more than the end of the world for that to happen :asuka
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 05, 2020, 07:52:58 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/jDvQfzo.jpg)

How I feel at this point 10000000%

Have you renounced Google? :bolo

Gonna take more than the end of the world for that to happen :asuka

Animal crossing DLC, you’re a cop on the island.


Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 05, 2020, 07:53:06 PM
US city budgets be like

Education and books :nope
Police :ohyeah
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 05, 2020, 07:55:47 PM
The reason why school districts aren't on the city's budget is because they're special districts run independently from the city. That also mean they're bound by city boundaries. LAUSD services other cities in L.A. for instance for schools.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 05, 2020, 07:59:44 PM
and seeing some types using it as a springboard for other ambitions is corny imo.

I also read that Philly DSA statement.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 05, 2020, 08:00:02 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/jDvQfzo.jpg)

How I feel at this point 10000000%

Have you renounced Google? :bolo

oh snap
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 05, 2020, 08:02:03 PM
abolish it all

https://twitter.com/JennyJarvie/status/1269053889472614400 (https://twitter.com/JennyJarvie/status/1269053889472614400)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tasty on June 05, 2020, 08:05:05 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/jDvQfzo.jpg)

How I feel at this point 10000000%

Have you renounced Google? :bolo

Gonna take more than the end of the world for that to happen :asuka

Animal crossing DLC, you’re a cop on the island.




Copper and Booker need to return! :bolo
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 05, 2020, 08:05:58 PM
In this climate? Not a chance.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tasty on June 05, 2020, 08:09:10 PM
Coward :bolo

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I'm actually setting up a "mirror" digital identity over the next few weeks; Gmail forwarding to Proton Mail, getting regular Google Takeout exports and storing them in Dropbox (vs. Google Drive), and doing some other things in case Google randomly nukes my account or I decide to pull the trigger on ditching them... I literally run my entire life through my Google Account/Gmail so I've realized how stupid it is to have it as a single point of failure for my life. :P

That said, for the time being I still intend to have Google be what I primarily run my digital identity from (vs. Proton Mail+Dropbox+self-hosted domain), since I trust Google to get security right a little more and still have (general) faith in how they've handled political matters so far. I've bought two Titan USB keys and enrolled in Advanced Account Protection, and I also generally appreciate the synergy between all their services.

But, since my opinion on Google can always change, I've decided having an escape hatch isn't a bad idea either.

All this to say, point taken. :idont
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Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 05, 2020, 08:44:00 PM
Coward :bolo

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I'm actually setting up a "mirror" digital identity over the next few weeks; Gmail forwarding to Proton Mail, getting regular Google Takeout exports and storing them in Dropbox (vs. Google Drive), and doing some other things in case Google randomly nukes my account or I decide to pull the trigger on ditching them... I literally run my entire life through my Google Account/Gmail so I've realized how stupid it is to have it as a single point of failure for my life. :P

That said, for the time being I still intend to have Google be what I primarily run my digital identity from (vs. Proton Mail+Dropbox+self-hosted domain), since I trust Google to get security right a little more and still have (general) faith in how they've handled political matters so far. I've bought two Titan USB keys and enrolled in Advanced Account Protection, and I also generally appreciate the synergy between all their services.

But, since my opinion on Google can always change, I've decided having an escape hatch isn't a bad idea either.

All this to say, point taken. :idont
[close]

*takes notes*
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 05, 2020, 09:08:40 PM
https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1269034074552721408
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tasty on June 05, 2020, 09:11:31 PM
I never cared that you used Google products, like everyone else I was just there to troll for the brand worship :rejoice

So many likes dunking on me personally :stahp

I just came out here to have a good time :stahp
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tasty on June 05, 2020, 09:13:08 PM
https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1269034074552721408

Something something Redskins something something
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 05, 2020, 09:13:09 PM
My dunk likes are never personal, just admiration for the sport. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 05, 2020, 09:15:00 PM
Someone went and burned down an Amazon distribution center in LA  :jawalrus
Title: Anti-Google fanboy rage mode activate
Post by: Tasty on June 05, 2020, 09:16:17 PM
DOWN WITH AMAZON

DOWN WITH BEZOS
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tasty on June 05, 2020, 09:20:49 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/N9LWBzP.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/KDLbXbf.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/20xv3D2.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/H46MQQa.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 05, 2020, 09:22:43 PM
https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1269034074552721408

Kapernickehs won.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 05, 2020, 09:29:38 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1268998143733051394

Boy, Justin Trudeau sure looks stoopid now  ::)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 05, 2020, 09:30:32 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/ParkPolice/status/1269072236369121280
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 05, 2020, 09:37:01 PM
Holy shit
:dead

https://twitter.com/umbyrella/status/1269042164614520832

That guy is probably dead right now.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 05, 2020, 09:37:41 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1268998143733051394

Boy, Justin Trudeau sure looks stoopid now  ::)

trump talking about standing up straight.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tasty on June 05, 2020, 09:38:29 PM
https://iasip.link/?VGhlIEdhbmcgS2lsbHMgYSBDb3A
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 05, 2020, 10:04:21 PM
He's just retreating into familiar ground, the issue is that Trump thinks it's still 2017. Dude hasn't thought about updating the routine.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 05, 2020, 10:18:41 PM
The amount of disinformation being pushed and general lack of fact checking on stuff via twitter is insane.
Yeah traditional media is slower to the punch, but at least there's a semblance of vetting claims and getting independent verifications before running stories.

You're a smart guy and we've had some fun together but your takes lately have been trash, you carry way too much water for people who don't deserve it because you're too concerned about the reasonable middle, and that's the tea :kermit

I don’t think is so much carrying water for old media companies but more a warning that “I take the word from this from this social media dude” is still a recipe for contributing to disinformation.

Is the same logic in which MAGA pricks operate.

in this thread alone there have been at least a dozen things posted and then later corrected/retracted

one I posted, saying a tiger was loose (it wasn't)

one someone else posted that I corrected, showing video of an "FBI" agent profiled by police (he wasn't FBI, and the video was from a year ago)

I've been scrolling back through other threads and timelines to look up videos and comments about all these events, and a bunch are simply deleted or banned already, within a week

there is plenty of stuff that is irrefutable which you won't see or learn about anywhere else, but there's also plenty that doesn't show or tell the whole story

(https://i.imgur.com/314W1cM.png)

update since this post:

- photoshopped Kendall Jenner holding up sign (http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=47406.msg2870667#msg2870667) did not make the shop herself, someone else did it for lulz (http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=47406.msg2870673#msg2870673)

- bicyclist "cop" identified on twitter (http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=47406.msg2870477#msg2870477) was not actually the culprit (https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/cyclist-attacks-young-adults-posting-black-lives-matter-signs-social-media-threats-false-accusations/65-90672d4e-bbf9-487c-8be1-5433778f4483)

 :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 05, 2020, 10:27:10 PM
https://twitter.com/dril/status/1269048275245514752
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on June 05, 2020, 10:33:38 PM
poopoo peepee :smug

I already saw that tweet thread from Castle Superbeast podcast. Is a very good twitter thread. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tuckers Law on June 05, 2020, 11:01:19 PM
:dead

https://twitter.com/umbyrella/status/1269042164614520832

You can actually see the hurt in that cops face, that feeling of betrayal for his attempt at the genuinely human gesture to that protestor: being proud of your kids.  It almost makes me sad for him, as he could very well be outstanding police and has never broken the law even while shielded by his position.  But that’s a very sharply pointed “almost”, because there are just too many bad police in the mix, and they keep being supported and protected by those presumably good cops through their unions and massaged or outright falsified testimonies.

It always leads me back to where I start anytime I go down that thought pattern: fuck the police.  If there were enough good ones out there that were true believers in law enforcement and doing the job as it’s supposed to be done, they’d be speaking up and speaking out against the rest of those gangsters with badges, even considering the high personal cost that follows.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 05, 2020, 11:12:58 PM
https://twitter.com/tweetingala/status/1268729013415141381?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tuckers Law on June 05, 2020, 11:35:08 PM
So what you're saying is Trump isn’t racist, but he’s #1 with racists?  I’m assuming you have good insight on this demographic, apologies if I’m mistaken.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 05, 2020, 11:39:14 PM
As a libertarian, I also believe ritual acts of fealty to the state are an important part of entertainment events put on by private companies and you should be punished for disrespecting them.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 05, 2020, 11:42:07 PM
Jay, since words mean something now, should we even be saying the R word? I don’t want to offend your sensibilities.


Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Beezy on June 05, 2020, 11:43:55 PM
This can't be true, right? :o

https://twitter.com/GottaLottaSata/status/1269002073443643399
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 05, 2020, 11:51:28 PM
Kanye yet again doing whatever gets him the most attention
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 06, 2020, 12:01:03 AM
https://twitter.com/NYPDShea/status/1269064256554766336

Can you imagine being so mentally fragile that you flip out over a bicycle repair kit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 06, 2020, 12:01:31 AM
The notion being that because of your skin color you are somehow obliged to think or act or perform a certain way, that your own individuality is subservient to collective idpol, or you're somehow defective.

lol jd asked me if I was pro-choice because I'm Jewish.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 06, 2020, 12:12:07 AM
Wow everyone knows the Jews don’t need fetuses as long as they can get most everyone’s foreskin what a complete idiot
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 06, 2020, 12:19:09 AM
Wow everyone knows the Jews don’t need fetuses as long as they can get most everyone’s foreskin what a complete idiot

we don't need more fillers
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 06, 2020, 12:30:31 AM
p sure jd's got me blocked

whatever happened to the marketplace of ideas
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on June 06, 2020, 12:31:27 AM
https://twitter.com/NYPDShea/status/1269064256554766336

Can you imagine being so mentally fragile that you flip out over a bicycle repair kit
umh... :thinking

(https://i.imgur.com/zlw9BQo.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tasty on June 06, 2020, 12:31:36 AM
Stop 👏🏻 engaging 👏🏻 JayDubya 👏🏻

He's 👏🏻 worse 👏🏻 than 👏🏻 Assimilate 👏🏻
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 06, 2020, 12:43:32 AM
As a libertarian, I also believe ritual acts of fealty to the state are an important part of entertainment events put on by private companies and you should be punished for disrespecting them.
i dont know if it’s surprising or completely predictable that a minarchist wouldnt be interested in how power actually works
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 06, 2020, 12:55:06 AM
oh, I think he gets the power dynamic

:hitler
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 06, 2020, 01:06:59 AM
.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 06, 2020, 01:11:11 AM
https://twitter.com/janaisevilla/status/1268350713874137088

More for the "do you know what's AcTuAlLy RaCiSt" pile.

"I'm a Jew!"

a shanda fur die goyim :larry
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: OnlyRegret on June 06, 2020, 01:23:42 AM
I don't know what you are even trying to argue JW, you aren't concise or funny enough to bother ruminating on.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 06, 2020, 01:38:21 AM
You remember when I said Trump's base is full-on supporting him no matter how much #ACAB?

(https://i.imgur.com/ltjh3P0.png)

These stupid fucks will still vote for his ass no matter how much he bungles shit. Those are the Electoral College folks you need to beat in the rural areas.

Hopefully it happens, but:

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/501368-joe-biden-lead-in-polls-does-not-ensure-final-victory-for-election

:mike
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 06, 2020, 01:52:13 AM
Ah yes they’re onto the polls part now are they? All according to plan.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EchoRin on June 06, 2020, 03:19:40 AM
Haha. That's a bumpin protest  :D
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 06, 2020, 04:03:05 AM
Yeah shame that bitch ripped the video from someone actually there for likes and RT’s.

That’s one thing I’ve had enough of, like get fucked stealing videos for clout.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 06, 2020, 06:53:44 AM
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1269048818739212288

 :mindblown
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 06, 2020, 07:05:53 AM
Not for a death cult it ain't  8)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 06, 2020, 07:14:45 AM
Is that an approval rating change chart?

e: oh market change correlation/causation
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 06, 2020, 07:26:00 AM
jaydubs arguments don't have a logical apex to make sense.

If i didn't know any better I'd think that jaydub is actually candance owens.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 06, 2020, 08:11:46 AM
who makes a more compelling argument jw or this guy:  :morans
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 06, 2020, 08:12:34 AM
just kidding we all know most of us don't bother reading jw's pathetic cries for attention
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: mormapope on June 06, 2020, 08:20:02 AM
I don’t understand why JayDubya has been allowed to hijack this thread to tell us repeatedly that he french kisses his father every night before bed.

Old man breath often reeks of stale beer and something like mustard. It's a bitter tang as old tongue often has years of built up bacteria and cells. A French kiss from an old man is like licking the tip of a cat's asshole.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 06, 2020, 08:27:03 AM
I still want to know if jaydub thinks a zygote is a person or not.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 06, 2020, 08:27:16 AM
Honestly I don't think people taking a knee or brands making care posts change anything and is just the same hashtag activism introduced by the #KONY campaign.
But if some people feel empowered and supported from such actions I don't see a problem with it either :yeshrug
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 06, 2020, 08:30:08 AM
also using race inside of quotes.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0O1z3An8CFc/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 06, 2020, 08:35:30 AM
The "who the hell cares about race" argument was always strange to me.
Of course if your race or ethnicity isn't the target of racism, bullying or oppression you don't care.

But that's really quite selfish.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 06, 2020, 08:37:33 AM
The "who the hell cares about race" argument was always strange to me.
Of course if your race or ethnicity isn't the target of racism, bullying or oppression you don't care.

But that's really quite selfish.

Who the hell are you? What happened to the real Nintex?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 06, 2020, 08:58:37 AM
The "who the hell cares about race" argument was always strange to me.
Of course if your race or ethnicity isn't the target of racism, bullying or oppression you don't care.

But that's really quite selfish.

This is a fresh hell of bizarro conflation.  If you think the concept is irrelevant bullshit - we're all the same species, after all - and treat everyone the same, you're "selfish?"  Can't win for losing, then.
There's no denying that racism still exists and as long as it does some people who are oppressed of their race will care about it.
You were probably never treated unequally because of your race and neither have I. But there are plenty of examples of people who are treated differently by others because of their race.

So yes, you are selfish if you say that race is no issue, because for you it is no issue but for others it is.

Now there is of course an argument to be made of how big of an issue racism still is and that will be different from city to city, region to region and country to country.
And racism also isn't only just the white man oppressing the minorities as people often like to frame it.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 06, 2020, 10:07:34 AM
https://www.inquirer.com/news/philadelphia-police-beating-temple-student-joseph-bologna-protest-20200605.html
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 06, 2020, 10:18:52 AM
https://indyweek.com/news/wake/conrad-james-raleigh-city-council-arrest/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 06, 2020, 10:28:33 AM
https://twitter.com/RTE_Culture/status/1268855184291246080
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 06, 2020, 10:41:00 AM
https://theintercept.com/2020/05/17/veterans-affairs-coronavirus-security-police/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 06, 2020, 11:10:22 AM
I really hope the weekend protests are large.  It feels a bit like its petering out and cops are starting to deescalate in large cities which is worrying. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 06, 2020, 11:11:03 AM
https://twitter.com/acnhsaturn/status/1269214790712348673
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 06, 2020, 11:12:14 AM
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2020/06/05/peel-police-begin-process-of-implementing-body-cameras-after-emergency-meeting-on-public-trust.html
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 06, 2020, 11:15:21 AM
(https://preview.redd.it/xavi63xln6351.jpg?width=1012&auto=webp&s=df9e124358637855748b9483e1e4d9d457cffdeb)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 06, 2020, 11:19:14 AM
https://twitter.com/ABC7/status/1269271231703863296
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 06, 2020, 12:04:53 PM
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1269048818739212288

 :mindblown
https://twitter.com/SarcasmStardust/status/1269295865111490570
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: curly on June 06, 2020, 12:11:06 PM
The "who the hell cares about race" argument was always strange to me.
Of course if your race or ethnicity isn't the target of racism, bullying or oppression you don't care.

But that's really quite selfish.

Things are weird enough I can't handle woke Nintex :stop
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 06, 2020, 12:13:52 PM
dutch wokeness  :playa
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: curly on June 06, 2020, 12:14:10 PM
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1269048818739212288

 :mindblown

How is this not maoist agitprop
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 06, 2020, 12:23:30 PM
Hulk's ex-wife said some dumb shit on twitter.  Her account is now protected.
(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/20015336/EZicoDhU8AErz0R.jpg)
 :hulk
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 06, 2020, 12:30:54 PM
All it took for Nintex to go woke was for Jay to spam this thread about how he enjoys the tenderness of his fathers lips against his every night.
He started turning against Trump months ago when he fucked up the coronavirus response every day. He fetishizes power for its own sake and will go wherever the wind blows. Just no principles... a pure quisling
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 06, 2020, 12:31:37 PM
https://www.fox4news.com/news/dpd-announces-new-duty-to-intervene-policy-for-officers
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 06, 2020, 12:38:22 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/jG3CD9n/90-E63105-0-D70-48-A7-B49-E-A245-D63-A6986.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 06, 2020, 01:18:43 PM
didn't read
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 06, 2020, 01:35:58 PM
didn't read

Neither will JD
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 06, 2020, 02:00:22 PM
https://twitter.com/mortonaklein7/status/1269312937598074880

 :maduro
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: OnlyRegret on June 06, 2020, 02:09:21 PM
The "who the hell cares about race" argument was always strange to me.
Of course if your race or ethnicity isn't the target of racism, bullying or oppression you don't care.

But that's really quite selfish.

This is a fresh hell of bizarro conflation.  If you think the concept is irrelevant bullshit - we're all the same species, after all - and treat everyone the same, you're "selfish?"  Can't win for losing, then.

Your posts are hell and bizarro.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 06, 2020, 02:31:59 PM
https://twitter.com/USAProtests/status/1269318813008437248

Trying to make a not a good guy a 75 year old
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: OnlyRegret on June 06, 2020, 02:33:50 PM
https://twitter.com/USAProtests/status/1269318813008437248

Trying to make a not a good guy a 75 year old

did we discover the boss of A.N.T.I.F.A.?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 06, 2020, 02:36:18 PM
it was nintex all along  :ohhh
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: toku on June 06, 2020, 02:54:50 PM
https://twitter.com/drewcshannon/status/1269318441376395264
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 06, 2020, 03:05:27 PM
https://twitter.com/drewcshannon/status/1269318441376395264

:existential
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 06, 2020, 03:39:03 PM
I hope they don't find breaking bad.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: OnlyRegret on June 06, 2020, 03:52:04 PM
can you guys shift your cringe to pm please
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 06, 2020, 04:17:22 PM
joe biden out here doing the important work to make this community better :bow2
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 06, 2020, 04:22:54 PM
Bow guy without a doubt is my favorite part of tonight's events. Dude's brain has been so completely hollowed out by MAGA propaganda that he gets out of his car to aim a fucking weapon at people. I just know we're going to find out more about him in the coming days, I feel it in my bones
theres another video of him brandishing a knife in the middle of the street too. guy probably needs help :-\
Quote
The Salt Lake Tribune reported that McCormick has a criminal record, including charges related to a road rage incident in May. The 57-year-old spent nearly two decades in jail in California, and has been convicted of battery against a public safety officer, the Tribune reported.
:shaq2
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 06, 2020, 04:30:26 PM
dundu nuffin  :trumps
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Beezy on June 06, 2020, 04:44:16 PM
https://twitter.com/itsavibe/status/1269123190099451904
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 06, 2020, 04:48:39 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZ2KjamX0AMAXrM?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 06, 2020, 04:51:13 PM
decided i want some of those shades that only right wing twitter types seem to wear :rash
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 06, 2020, 04:52:05 PM
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1269322620316442625
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Oblivion on June 06, 2020, 04:56:00 PM
wait, does jaydubya think that trump's comments about latino/hispanic people being murderers, rapists and drug dealers is not racist?  :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 06, 2020, 05:08:38 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/uR3C6dK.jpg)

 :shaq
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 06, 2020, 05:09:00 PM
There is only one race, the human race 🤯
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 06, 2020, 05:29:16 PM
https://twitter.com/david2chicago/status/1269348454326812673
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 06, 2020, 05:40:46 PM
hips so small it makes her flat stomach into a muffin top  :ohhh
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 06, 2020, 05:42:11 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-52945301/washington-monument-struck-by-lightning


god was antifa the whole time  :trumps
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 06, 2020, 05:52:31 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-52945301/washington-monument-struck-by-lightning


god was antifa the whole time  :trumps
President Trump using his time travel Tesla machine again  :neo
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Beezy on June 06, 2020, 06:07:08 PM
https://twitter.com/daeshikjr/status/1269326575180214272
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Oblivion on June 06, 2020, 06:16:40 PM
https://twitter.com/MarcACaputo/status/1269365367383654402
https://twitter.com/fallenigloos/status/1269371052767039489

 :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: toku on June 06, 2020, 06:22:45 PM
https://twitter.com/chopsueyside/status/1268603886140633088
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Oblivion on June 06, 2020, 06:27:43 PM
wait, went back a few pages and jaydubya had a problem with the racism stuff cause trump was talking about the the kneeling during football games?

does he really think trump gives a shit about the supposed insult to the flag/anthem?
 
:girlaff :crowdlaff
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 06, 2020, 06:34:05 PM
somebody send it to him so him and his dad can check it out during cuddle time tonight
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 06, 2020, 06:55:35 PM
https://twitter.com/Raffi_RC/status/1269127698208534529

 :preach
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 06, 2020, 06:56:24 PM
https://twitter.com/meyer_lucas/status/1269319926256459778
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 06, 2020, 06:57:40 PM
Nintex thought it was December.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EchoRin on June 06, 2020, 06:58:15 PM
I need to know Jordan Peterson's take on this. It's his city.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 06, 2020, 07:29:35 PM
The only thing JP would have an opinion on is the borscht he's being spoonfed.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
He has no opinion of it.
[close]
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 06, 2020, 07:34:36 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/riWE375.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 06, 2020, 07:37:12 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/8Vrh2Gz.jpg)

jp rn  :-\
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 06, 2020, 07:39:15 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/0NUien4.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 06, 2020, 07:44:04 PM
 :society
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 06, 2020, 07:51:59 PM
https://twitter.com/basedqani/status/1269412163661242374


 :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 06, 2020, 08:04:49 PM
Then get the fuck outta here :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EightBitNate on June 06, 2020, 08:06:52 PM
Abolish the police and then...?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 06, 2020, 08:08:00 PM
Abolish the police and then...?
profit  :maduro
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 06, 2020, 08:08:29 PM
The actual crazier part is that when he said George would be looking down smiling, he wasn't even talking about the jobs report. He was talking about the mass protests and riots and cops beating the shit out of people and killing more people.

Kilmeade: "Some people have criticized your comments on George Floyd"

Trump: "Look I think he's happy I really think he's happy -- probably he's up there with Michael Jackson and 50 Cent making new hits -- they're all looking down to see what great things we're doing for our country.
I don't think George would want to abolish the police at all for his run in with this -- I call him a bad apple, I call him a bad apple -- we have to get rid of the bad but you can't throw away the good with the bad.
George wouldn't want that George would want peace and maybe a little bit of justice so I think he's really having a great time up there with all these stars like really the big ones are already dead when you think about it"
 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 06, 2020, 08:09:33 PM
I think people mean abolishment in different ways.  To me, in the long term, it means a partial abolishment - there will still be police, just a lot less of them.  In the short term it means disbanding individual orginizations and rebuilding them. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 06, 2020, 08:17:17 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/adW9zsC.jpg)

 :bernie
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 06, 2020, 08:20:31 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3oeSB36G9Au4V0xUhG/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 06, 2020, 08:20:45 PM
Abolish the police and then...?
"Associates" of Rudy with the remnants of the NYPD, Eric Prince, Flynn, Don Jr. and the Trump Organization would take over New York and Washington D.C. within a week.
Zuckerberg would protect his interests in California. In other places it would just be various mobs and gangs running the show.

Lou: "Now Rudy what would you say to people that claim you have no authority over New York. Joe Biden said the other day that you should release Nancy Pelosi from custody and Eric Prince should remove his tanks from Wall Street and other vital landmarks across the city"

Rudy: "What are they going to do Lou?, call the police gehehehe"

Lou: "Now that would be something Rudy a radical socialist calling the police, now tell me what is your message to these so called East Side and West Side gangs threatening to take-over more territory?"

Rudy: "Our message is that we still control the airforce Lou and the President isn't afraid to use them if they touch the corner of 32nd Street"
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 06, 2020, 08:21:47 PM
Just needs a better word for dismantle and rebuild from the ground up.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: toku on June 06, 2020, 08:21:58 PM
dancehall recording artist vybz kartel just dropped an emo rock song so we're all 1000% dying this year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYpg2u5pJAc
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 06, 2020, 08:27:44 PM
Just needs a better word for dismantle and rebuild from the ground up.

Reboot the police, like it's a superhero franchise.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 06, 2020, 08:28:52 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 06, 2020, 08:29:45 PM
RELEASE DA SNYDER POLICE!! :rejoice
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 06, 2020, 08:30:05 PM
All women this time. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EightBitNate on June 06, 2020, 08:34:04 PM
We ready for Police 2
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 06, 2020, 08:34:06 PM
All women this time. 


 :riot



Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 06, 2020, 08:37:24 PM
I demand Mandark release his reddit username
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 06, 2020, 08:38:11 PM
I already have.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 06, 2020, 08:39:07 PM
Post it again  :'(
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 06, 2020, 08:39:16 PM
Local stations sent out an alert that said CIVIL WARNING: DO NOT GO TO DOWNTOWN INDIANAPOLIS TONIGHT. The curfew was reinstated, through Tuesday morning. Catching a live stream, the only thing going on is people quietly kneeling in the streets and praying/chanting.  Basically, a sizable group is walking a certain distance, kneeling and chanting, then moving on to do it in another area. So if police come and fuck these people up, which you have to assume is going to happen based on the warning being pushed to all local networks :yikes

This is a good thing.  The protests have gotten too peaceful and this is an obvious abuse of power. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 06, 2020, 08:40:07 PM
Post it again  :'(

use the search function, padawan
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 06, 2020, 08:41:29 PM
Post it again  :'(
use the search function, padawan
(https://i.imgur.com/A1Q2JOC.png)

This is exactly why mom left.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 06, 2020, 08:46:18 PM
Hot Take:

These protests would have ended already in most cities if there wasn't any curfews.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 06, 2020, 08:48:58 PM
haute take:

the protests are a psyop to get get the blacks and those who would sympathize with them to gather closely in large numbers. so as to infect them with the covid
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 06, 2020, 08:49:21 PM
https://twitter.com/TrinityFranci14/status/1268779954856067072
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 06, 2020, 09:02:43 PM
https://twitter.com/Samyann_Writer/status/1269433374155866115?


This is fine.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 06, 2020, 09:09:03 PM
https://twitter.com/Samyann_Writer/status/1269433374155866115?


This is fine.

this is from 4 days ago I think. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 06, 2020, 09:10:23 PM
Damn sorry. Saw people retweeting it.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 06, 2020, 09:51:26 PM
This is a week old, but damn.

(https://i.imgur.com/mSU4NKu.png)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 06, 2020, 10:07:35 PM
CAWK
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 06, 2020, 10:17:19 PM
Have you guys seen the DC protests today? Massive.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 06, 2020, 10:31:14 PM
https://store.cineplex.com/promo/understandingblackstories.aspx
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 06, 2020, 10:32:42 PM
https://www.fox46.com/video/police-fire-pepper-spray-in-middle-of-interview/5552586/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 06, 2020, 10:42:07 PM
https://kutv.com/news/local/utah-marine-stands-alone-at-utah-capitol-with-i-cant-breathe-covering-his-mouth
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 06, 2020, 10:47:16 PM
Seatle PD is gassing and flashing a bunch of people right now

https://www.twitch.tv/woke
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 07, 2020, 01:50:01 AM
Seatle PD is gassing and flashing a bunch of people right now

https://www.twitch.tv/woke

Yeah couple of buddies went there, told there would be no gas or flash bangs, get both and apparently quite a lot of kids in the crowd so that’s fucked up. Although who the fuck takes a kid to a protest, especially one this late on when you have seen the police doing nothing but be vile.

TEXAS RATTLE SNAKE

https://twitter.com/dcischillin/status/1269181334322208773
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: TEEEPO on June 07, 2020, 02:05:49 AM
the police promised there would be no gas or flash bangs from them, not the national guard  :trumps
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 07, 2020, 03:42:08 AM
https://twitter.com/BillWeirCNN/status/1269470126358908930

something about this makes me wanna barf  :yuck where's the pepsi at  ::)


also unsettling, felt like he was walking them into a trap and something horrible was about to happen to everyone  :-\ been watching too much of this shid  :fbm


Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 07, 2020, 03:58:59 AM
https://twitter.com/SeattlePD/status/1269474731717087233

my abuela used to light these explosives, but they had saints on them and shid  :doge

abuela was a antifa  :ohhh


https://twitter.com/DaleJr/status/1267816620849680387

 :pitbull
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Crash Dummy on June 07, 2020, 06:24:24 AM
Hot Take:

These protests would have ended already in most cities if there wasn't any curfews.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsJ3qFOXcAAOxY0.jpg)
 :idont
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 07, 2020, 06:53:04 AM
the police promised there would be no gas or flash bangs from them, not the national guard  :trumps
"Mr. President, Mr President, what about the Flash bangs!"

*WRRRRRRRRRRRR*

"THE GANGBANGS?"

*WRRRRRRRRRRRR*

"NO. THE FLASH BANGS?"

*WRRRRRRRRRRRR*

"OH"

*WRRRRRRRRRRRR*

"THANK YOU EVERYONE!"
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Beezy on June 07, 2020, 09:56:42 AM
NYC curfew has been lifted
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 07, 2020, 10:26:18 AM
https://twitter.com/JATayler/status/1269330595760541697

@nudemac explain to me what sperrys are.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 07, 2020, 10:36:23 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/dTji7Rb.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 07, 2020, 10:46:41 AM
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372503124226867203/719200406483238982/unknown.png)

Ubisoft needs to stop with their viral marketing.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 07, 2020, 12:46:43 PM
https://twitter.com/bbcrb/status/1269644536281776128 (https://twitter.com/bbcrb/status/1269644536281776128)
We've moved on to the tearing down statues phase
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 07, 2020, 01:01:59 PM
https://twitter.com/LPDonovan/status/1269432888564551680 (https://twitter.com/LPDonovan/status/1269432888564551680)

So I guess if you don't fully support abolishing the police you are no longer accepted by the mobs.  :riot
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 07, 2020, 01:02:20 PM
Churchill next :pacspit

I think this revolution has gone far enough.  What next, loot the British Museum just because they are trying to showcase and educate people on POC culture with exhibits like the Elgin Marbles?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 07, 2020, 01:17:42 PM
These sorts of actions will turn the general populace against the protesters in favor of law and order especially outside the US.
I'm seeing it happening across the world now, it's no longer about the police violence and racism. Basically every left winger with a gear to grind is using this as a 'platform'.
Statues, war memorials and churches desecrated for no reason will not lead to the outcome they expect.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 07, 2020, 01:26:59 PM
These sorts of actions will turn the general populace against the protesters in favor of law and order especially outside the US.
I'm seeing it happening across the world now, it's no longer about the police violence and racism. Basically every left winger with a gear to grind is using this as a 'platform'.
Statues, war memorials and churches desecrated for no reason will not lead to the outcome they expect.

The last 2 days in the US have seen incredibly massive almost entirely peaceful protests across the country...

But some statue being torn down in.. *checks notes*... Bristol, Englad.. is going to turn the tied against US protesters?  lol
Yeah, in the US they are more focused. It's especially outside the US where the protests are taking a different turn.


The old Nintex is BACK!
Not really I still support peaceful protests. I'm just not in favor of tearing down statues and other landmarks for a political agenda no matter what the political agenda is.
I'm not seeing how erasing history is going to help us solve the issue of police racism in 2020.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 07, 2020, 01:36:56 PM
It's a statue from 1895. It survived WW1, WW2 and dozens of other hardships.
So very little survives 100+ years and it is completely unnecessary to tear down such an object.

Now there could be an argument that such a statue should not be placed in a public square and would be better suited for a museum to give it the proper context.
I just don't think it's a good idea for a spur of the moment mob to decide what of history we preserve and what can be tossed into the sea.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 07, 2020, 01:40:45 PM
if it's from 1895 and slavery ended in Britan in the 1830's, what does that say about the people who erected the statue? 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 07, 2020, 01:41:02 PM
including the event where it was fished out of the harbor
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 07, 2020, 01:47:44 PM
if it's from 1895 and slavery ended in Britan in the 1830's, what does that say about the people who erected the statue?
They appreciated the millions of pounds the guy donated to the local community and weren't as concerned about where all that money came from, which is as true today as it ever has been

:idont
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 07, 2020, 01:50:36 PM
It's a statue from 1895. It survived WW1, WW2 and dozens of other hardships.
So very little survives 100+ years and it is completely unnecessary to tear down such an object.

Now there could be an argument that such a statue should not be placed in a public square and would be better suited for a museum to give it the proper context.

It can be fished from the harbor, put in a museum.. and all of it's historical context can be on display, including the 2020 event where people decided slaver statues should get thrown in the harbor.
It wasn't 'decided' by the people or voted on. It was just a mob that acted in the spur of the moment.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 07, 2020, 01:58:54 PM
It's a statue from 1895. It survived WW1, WW2 and dozens of other hardships.
So very little survives 100+ years and it is completely unnecessary to tear down such an object.

Now there could be an argument that such a statue should not be placed in a public square and would be better suited for a museum to give it the proper context.

It can be fished from the harbor, put in a museum.. and all of it's historical context can be on display, including the 2020 event where people decided slaver statues should get thrown in the harbor.
It wasn't 'decided' by the people or voted on. It was just a mob that acted in the spur of the moment.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"

:rofl
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 07, 2020, 01:59:06 PM
if it's from 1895 and slavery ended in Britan in the 1830's, what does that say about the people who erected the statue? 

Probably roughly the same thing it says about the people who erected confederate generals and leaders monuments in all throughout the South AND North not even in the immediate aftermath of the Civil War, but in the early 1900s and and 1960s.
I agree that such statues erected after WW1 and WW2 were probably created in extremely bad taste or to provoke.
With regards to Colston, I'm reading that there are still a lot of question marks regarding his history with regards to slavery.

The sculptor John Cassidy seems to have done a lot of statues of historical figures and did not seem to have a radical agenda of any kind.
I'm also reading a newspaper conducted a poll and the local residents didn't want the statue removed. Instead there was a proposal to add a description to give the statue more context.
Which would've been more appropriate.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 07, 2020, 02:05:03 PM
And now we're on a very slippery slope.

https://twitter.com/EdClowes/status/1269663175198334977 (https://twitter.com/EdClowes/status/1269663175198334977)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 07, 2020, 02:08:28 PM
Lol like it’s just someone’s art project, sometimes you make room on the fridge lol

Object permanence is a scam
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 07, 2020, 02:40:54 PM
I'd like to see Churchhill's statues come down, so we can re-examine his history and finally realize, his place as a Nazi killer is far more important than minor bouts of racism.  Then make even bigger statues of him.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 07, 2020, 02:48:08 PM
Churchill is a symbol of defiance against oppression and tyranny. He is revered as a hero throughout the UK and many other countries in Europe.

If you want to show the world you are just an anarchist with no sense of history, culture, no one should take you seriously and you don't plan to do anything constructive there's no better place to start than to deface a statue of Churchill the day after D-Day.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 07, 2020, 02:58:38 PM
https://twitter.com/re_colston/status/1269694476861267979

 :mynicca
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 07, 2020, 03:00:29 PM
And therein lies the contradiction; for the majority of people living in europe churchill and his ilk are heroes... But for the rest of the world that the British Empire victimized he's a Hitler. Unfortunately a movement centered around attacking the handling of internal colonies will come with attacks upon the perpetrators of colonialism and slavery. Sucks but all these societies programmed these conflicts into their social makeup with their past and present.

:idont

:idont  my feelings exactly 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: curly on June 07, 2020, 03:01:36 PM
I'd like to see Churchhill's statues come down, so we can re-examine his history and finally realize, his place as a Nazi killer is far more important than minor bouts of racism.  Then make even bigger statues of him.

Minor bouts of racism (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/04/churchill-policies-blamed-1943-bengal-famine-study-190401155922122.html)  :foodcourt
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: headwalk on June 07, 2020, 03:04:22 PM
you could fit the statues of everyone who achieved something in british history and also passed the purity test in a phonebox.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 07, 2020, 03:04:57 PM
https://twitter.com/BillWeirCNN/status/1269470126358908930

something about this makes me wanna barf  :yuck where's the pepsi at  ::)


also unsettling, felt like he was walking them into a trap and something horrible was about to happen to everyone  :-\ been watching too much of this shid  :fbm
welp:

https://twitter.com/SaraQDavid/status/1269600438501982210

https://twitter.com/WilderDavies/status/1269604714611650562

https://twitter.com/oldredtree/status/1269514455655776256


 :maduro
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: curly on June 07, 2020, 03:05:44 PM
you could fit the statues of everyone who achieved something in british history and also passed the purity test in a phonebox.

Well the British measure their historical achievements in Indians killed so that sounds about right
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 07, 2020, 03:08:56 PM
I'd like to see Churchhill's statues come down, so we can re-examine his history and finally realize, his place as a Nazi killer is far more important than minor bouts of racism.  Then make even bigger statues of him.

Oh, right, he gets a statue for fighting nazis for a couple of years?
I fight nazis every day. Just yesterday I blocked someone for disagreeing with me and called the president Drumpf. And I have social anxiety!

Where's my statue?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on June 07, 2020, 03:12:13 PM
It's a statue from 1895. It survived WW1, WW2 and dozens of other hardships.
So very little survives 100+ years and it is completely unnecessary to tear down such an object.

Now there could be an argument that such a statue should not be placed in a public square and would be better suited for a museum to give it the proper context.
I just don't think it's a good idea for a spur of the moment mob to decide what of history we preserve and what can be tossed into the sea.

Zwarte Staues Matter!  :biden
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 07, 2020, 03:12:14 PM
As the statue committee, we need to know how many Indians have you killed in the digital realm? 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 07, 2020, 03:14:20 PM
That's not really fair since the Russians were doping. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 07, 2020, 03:16:26 PM
you could fit the statues of everyone who achieved something in british history and also passed the purity test in a phonebox.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/Qmbsuf84vW1IQ/giphy-downsized-large.gif)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 07, 2020, 03:17:07 PM
https://twitter.com/NYCMayor/status/1269650502284972032

I'll believe it when I see it.  Really worried the protests will fizzle out and the news will move onto economy stuff.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 07, 2020, 03:23:56 PM
so....they gonna arrest young people?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 07, 2020, 03:26:35 PM
https://twitter.com/austin_police/status/1269326118366183424

see thread lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: OnlyRegret on June 07, 2020, 03:27:11 PM
if it's from 1895 and slavery ended in Britan in the 1830's, what does that say about the people who erected the statue? 

Probably roughly the same thing it says about the people who erected confederate generals and leaders monuments in all throughout the South AND North not even in the immediate aftermath of the Civil War, but in the early 1900s and and 1960s.
I agree that such statues erected after WW1 and WW2 were probably created in extremely bad taste or to provoke.
With regards to Colston, I'm reading that there are still a lot of question marks regarding his history with regards to slavery.

The sculptor John Cassidy seems to have done a lot of statues of historical figures and did not seem to have a radical agenda of any kind.
I'm also reading a newspaper conducted a poll and the local residents didn't want the statue removed. Instead there was a proposal to add a description to give the statue more context.
Which would've been more appropriate.

Meh.

I'd be more fervent in defence if it was a more significant piece, as in, was a great piece of art or of great importance to many people.
Some rich slaver? Meh.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 07, 2020, 03:32:35 PM
It's a statue from 1895. It survived WW1, WW2 and dozens of other hardships.
So very little survives 100+ years and it is completely unnecessary to tear down such an object.

Now there could be an argument that such a statue should not be placed in a public square and would be better suited for a museum to give it the proper context.
I just don't think it's a good idea for a spur of the moment mob to decide what of history we preserve and what can be tossed into the sea.

Then build some National Shitheel Museum and stick it in there?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: OnlyRegret on June 07, 2020, 03:37:41 PM
Also

"It's a statue from 1895. It survived WW1, WW2 and dozens of other hardships."

 :lol
brah, it's a statue, it'll cope with famine, drought, plague, and solar storms just fine
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 07, 2020, 03:41:18 PM
Fuck Churchill for selling out Poland at Yalta for Greece

Fat fuck
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 07, 2020, 03:43:18 PM
you could fit the statues of everyone who achieved something in british history and also passed the purity test in a phonebox.



i'm glad we can agree that the british completely suck ass then. from churchill to jk rowling to rare entertainment, it's clear that they've committed enough atrocities over the decades and must now be punished for it
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 07, 2020, 03:43:46 PM
Fuck Churchill for selling out Poland at Yalta for Greece

wait maybe he wasn't so bad after all
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: curly on June 07, 2020, 03:48:44 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/notcolloquial/status/1269495996230381568

There's like 10 million different interests trying to co-opt the protests into something nonthreatening
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 07, 2020, 03:54:02 PM
i'm glad we can agree that the british completely suck ass then. from churchill to jk rowling to rare entertainment, it's clear that they've committed enough atrocities over the decades and must now be punished for it
(https://i.imgur.com/9GMMi72.png)

no one is safe, not even people who are dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 07, 2020, 03:55:24 PM
hey look it's ferguson all over again. nothing major changes but these organizations will all walk away with a shitload of money
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 07, 2020, 03:56:16 PM
This was always how it was going to end. Oprah going on tv talking about forgiveness and nothing getting reformed, all the press releases from firms in support. I expect to see Roger Goodell and the food network butter lady taking a knee in solidarity

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1269175582421651461?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 07, 2020, 03:59:23 PM
There are bills in Congress and police departments are announcing changes. Just give it more time.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 07, 2020, 03:59:46 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gyg9dm/absolutely_messed_up_man_is_kicked_out_of_his/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: curly on June 07, 2020, 04:04:42 PM
There are bills in Congress and police departments are announcing changes. Just give it more time.

:killme
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 07, 2020, 04:10:03 PM
How has the past week gone? Haven't been paying as much attention due to family business and Hard Times, daddeh.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 07, 2020, 04:23:34 PM
Really good.  The protests have become non-violent - I don't hear anything anymore about looting that didn't happen in the initial few days.  The police continued to use force against non-violent protestors and so the narrative has slowly changed from looters to police reform.  Not to say that is going to happen but we are much more in an environment where those conversations can take place than 5 days ago.  Trump using the military completely backfired.  There was a twitter thread of positive changes you might want to look at.  If you want to see police violence and haven't seen the white old man in Buffalo, or the 16 yearold kid in Texas, or a few NYPD vs protestors videos those seem to be key moments, along with Trump clearing protestors for his photo op. 

That being said, I think almost all major cities no longer have a curfew and the police have mostly stopped acting violently on cammera so I'm afraid that the situation is going to wind down before real change can take place. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 07, 2020, 04:30:13 PM
if muhammad will not cum to the statue, then the statue will get thrown in the ocean
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 07, 2020, 04:39:51 PM
so the narrative has slowly changed from looters to police reform.
No, Fox news is still exclusively reporting on looting.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 07, 2020, 04:44:51 PM
Muhammad tearing down statues and forbidding the practice as statues elevate human beings to worship and humans are undeserving of it :rejoice

Probably the only thing I put on a pedestal ( :teehee ) about the dude. Even though I usually fall into "old buildings and statues are cool" camp.

I think it's just human nature to create narratives oriented around people in order to contextualise historical events.
Which is why these protests are simultaneously about George Floyd, but also not about George Floyd at all.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 07, 2020, 04:50:40 PM
https://twitter.com/IHateNYT/status/1269553090228826114

:dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 07, 2020, 04:52:00 PM
If anything, these protests are working by completely exhausting the police to the point of resignation
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 07, 2020, 05:03:38 PM
https://twitter.com/darrengrimes_/status/1269711535313690624
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 07, 2020, 05:04:33 PM
https://twitter.com/matthewferner/status/1269728324441370624

 :titus

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Obv the big question is what replaces it.
[close]
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 07, 2020, 05:08:45 PM
Meanwhile;  guy who filmed a child being maced by the Seattle PD was hunted down and arrested with 7 cop cars showing up days later;  the charge?  That he was using an illegal laser pointer... denied bail.

They also hunted down a woman and pulled her out of her car to arrest her while her child watched, claiming days earlier she'd assaulted 2 cops. 

Scary shit.   Would not be shocked if they tried to get Homeland Security involved with some terrorism charges.
Source for this? And also the video.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 07, 2020, 05:18:20 PM
Disbanded police forces... cops committing illegal actions in retribution... yeah this is how you get paramilitary organizations. Living in history :rejoice
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 07, 2020, 05:23:47 PM
https://twitter.com/dawkinsreturns/status/1269661639869153281

🙃

He beat hitler but 🤷🏻‍♂️
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: El Babua on June 07, 2020, 05:34:10 PM
We saved his fat ass from Hitler you mean :american
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 07, 2020, 05:34:28 PM
https://twitter.com/austin_police/status/1269326118366183424

see thread lol

I don't get the assumption that the cops faked it

just as easily could be some church group of 5 people that decided to get together and write 100 notes of support and did a really bad job of pretending like lots of people were writing them
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 07, 2020, 05:35:11 PM
I love that three of the colored envelopes on the front have exactly the same handwriting
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 07, 2020, 05:50:19 PM
https://twitter.com/mboorstein/status/1269740951108554753

:larry
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 07, 2020, 05:50:58 PM
Now that Minneapolis is the epicenter of revolutionary consciousness in America, should we dethrone AOC and crown Ilhan in her place? :hmm
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 07, 2020, 05:55:21 PM
Neat that you have to worry about the police becoming (continuing to be?) a deadly terrorist group if you disband them

lmao can you imagine what nyc would look like if the nypd was suddenly disbanded
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 07, 2020, 05:56:14 PM
Are you guys psychologically prepared for Mitt Romney to say Black Lives Matter because I wasn't :dead

https://twitter.com/hannah_natanson/status/1269742337934217219
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pennywise on June 07, 2020, 05:56:30 PM
https://twitter.com/ACLUMN/status/1269738051498106880
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Oblivion on June 07, 2020, 06:11:55 PM
looks like reggie is a #bluelivesmatter guy:

https://twitter.com/Reggie/status/1269702819117850626

 :kobeyuck
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 07, 2020, 06:24:13 PM
Sega fanboys picked the winning side after all :goty
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 07, 2020, 06:24:57 PM
As always Nintendo defends conservative family values against the SEGA anarchists, Soyny degenerates and Xbox Gaijin :salute
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 07, 2020, 06:28:05 PM
Resetera thread “Reggie is an Uncle Tom now, hail Bowser”
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 07, 2020, 06:31:39 PM
Super Mario - Cop
Luigi Mario - Cop
Fox McCloud - Space Cop
Captain Falcon - Cool Cop
Samus Aran - Cis Female Cop
Link - Legendary Cop
Kirby - Dream Cop
Donkey Kong - Jungle Cop

All your favs are cops
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 07, 2020, 06:34:22 PM
Mitt Romney saying Black Lives Matter. Holy shit this alternative timeline is amazing. :dead

Thanks for the updates y'all.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: curly on June 07, 2020, 07:24:32 PM
sounds like reparations to me

also they have a statue of Leopold? Jesus
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 07, 2020, 08:01:38 PM
Romney supporting the movement isn't a big surprise.

He has never come off as a big asshole, just a little bit of an asshole.

Here, have a fucking cookie.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EchoRin on June 07, 2020, 08:07:22 PM
Just got finished protesting in Welles Park and then we marched down Lincoln and Addison. The latter being the more in your face protest while the park protest was a more family friendly affair. All went smoothly. Well organized and people giving out water and snacks. We'll see what becomes of the march. I stepped out halfway and I assume they are continuing down to Wrigley Field. Hope all goes well. We were being mostly watched by cops on bikes. But I had no feeling that an altercation was on its way.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 07, 2020, 08:19:48 PM


also they have a statue of Leopold? Jesus

Who else should there be a statue of? Name one famous Belgian that isn't a mass murderer or a child molester or both.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EchoRin on June 07, 2020, 08:20:34 PM


also they have a statue of Leopold? Jesus

Who else should there be a statue of? Name one famous Belgian that isn't a mass murderer or a child molester or both.

The under performing national soccer team? Sorry, football team
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 07, 2020, 08:31:15 PM
boreans itt slowly realizing all public statues are a mistake :money
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 07, 2020, 08:37:02 PM
boreans itt slowly realizing all public statues are a mistake :money

https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/love
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 07, 2020, 08:45:54 PM
https://twitter.com/dreamboum/status/1269727002828902401
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 07, 2020, 08:46:01 PM
me and rootass will defend the Lenin statue in Seattle with our lives
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 07, 2020, 08:59:30 PM
Just catching up on this thread and there's a whole page of Nintex crying about people pulling down a statue of a person he'd never heard of, in the 8th biggest city of a country where he doesn't live.

:lawd
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 07, 2020, 09:11:34 PM
imagine not having nintex on super ignore.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EchoRin on June 07, 2020, 09:16:46 PM
Just a few pictures and videos I documented on the old potato

(https://i.ibb.co/p4wQ3tp/IMG-20200607-172351.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/hYKrXQ4/IMG-20200607-173134.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/WKGgBbN/IMG-20200607-173440.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/3kB2N8f/IMG-20200607-175002.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/LNLJYvJ/IMG-20200607-175431.jpg)

videos:

https://streamable.com/0umw4k

https://streamable.com/82zrf8

https://streamable.com/je3o5a

https://streamable.com/b413ax

https://streamable.com/btlm19

I hope this doesn't trigger you JayDubya  :)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on June 07, 2020, 10:13:24 PM
Neat that you have to worry about the police becoming (continuing to be?) a deadly terrorist group if you disband them
DRONE STRIIIKE! (https://i.imgur.com/pYLMMYj.png)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 07, 2020, 10:17:43 PM
boreans itt slowly realizing all public statues are a mistake :money

https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/love
point taken. how about public likenesses?  :idont
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: OnlyRegret on June 07, 2020, 10:59:08 PM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/38/Sculpture_of_Marx_and_Engels_in_Fuxing_Park%2C_Shanghai.jpg/220px-Sculpture_of_Marx_and_Engels_in_Fuxing_Park%2C_Shanghai.jpg)

(https://assets.atlasobscura.com/media/W1siZiIsInVwbG9hZHMvcGxhY2VfaW1hZ2VzLzI2ZTY0ODIzYjUyNmU4NDU2MV9TdGF0dWUgMS5qcGciXSxbInAiLCJ0aHVtYiIsIngzOTA-Il0sWyJwIiwiY29udmVydCIsIi1xdWFsaXR5IDgxIC1hdXRvLW9yaWVudCJdXQ/Statue%201.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1e/Rosa_Luxemburg_ND1.JPG)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: OnlyRegret on June 07, 2020, 11:01:05 PM
sorry komrade, your party membership will be undergoing a revision

(https://media.giphy.com/media/zHSd0MXEiizh6/giphy.gif) (https://i.redd.it/i8uvlg8wt1441.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Oblivion on June 07, 2020, 11:07:22 PM
https://twitter.com/Anon_Snufkin/status/1268154463933480961

 :o :o :o
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 07, 2020, 11:07:23 PM
the sphinx and pyramids were built with slave labor to honor royalty or some bourgeoisie shid  :pacspit tear those symbols of oppression down!! :ltg
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 07, 2020, 11:16:50 PM


also they have a statue of Leopold? Jesus

Who else should there be a statue of? Name one famous Belgian that isn't a mass murderer or a child molester or both.

Inventor of the Belgian waffle.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 07, 2020, 11:17:58 PM
PLEASE YES!  The protests need fuel. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 07, 2020, 11:25:35 PM
35,200 to go
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Beezy on June 08, 2020, 12:03:34 AM
 :camby :camby :camby

https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1269794236414808064
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 08, 2020, 12:10:25 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/PbjFpma.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on June 08, 2020, 12:13:22 AM
The different color scheme idea has some merit.
Imagine if instead of intimidating black uniforms, they had dinosaurs onesis with rainbow patterns. :thinking
Riot gear could be Hello-Kitty pink and white.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: tiesto on June 08, 2020, 12:26:46 AM


also they have a statue of Leopold? Jesus

Who else should there be a statue of? Name one famous Belgian that isn't a mass murderer or a child molester or both.

Charlotte De Witte
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 08, 2020, 12:42:28 AM
https://twitter.com/truefactsstated/status/1269779211184726022


JUSTICE JUNE!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: OnlyRegret on June 08, 2020, 12:58:23 AM
:drudge

https://twitter.com/icecube/status/1269707045244071936

👁️
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 08, 2020, 01:49:30 AM
looks like reggie is a #bluelivesmatter guy:

https://twitter.com/Reggie/status/1269702819117850626

 :kobeyuck

I knew Reggie was a cop
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on June 08, 2020, 02:16:57 AM
Looting is over and filler still hasn’t received his Switch reparations  :juicy
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 08, 2020, 02:32:13 AM
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1269613496767045633
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EchoRin on June 08, 2020, 02:41:11 AM
that where The Bore is heading as we don't have new applicants and all of us are getting older all the time, looking older all the time.

I'm just hoping we are feeling younger in our mind.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 08, 2020, 02:53:44 AM
You can't be over-represented in the electorate.

Everyone of legal age can vote. The electorate just is the electorate.

There is just a lot of boomers.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 08, 2020, 03:23:02 AM
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/06/07/trump-orders-withdrawal-of-national-guard-in-dc-as-anti-racism-protests-continue/24515201/

How salty is trump the national guard didn't start busting heads.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 08, 2020, 03:32:21 AM
I just realized moblin probably burned down that police precinct :lawd
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EchoRin on June 08, 2020, 03:33:39 AM
https://twitter.com/bullethead69/status/1269331282057670656

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/bd23e97c707980a25af9199469bf38bb/cd962af999a2d92c-94/s400x600/01b12837f64511ab252862234fb16c90cab154b2.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 08, 2020, 04:13:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSWasOhArfM
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 08, 2020, 04:17:25 AM
This man standing behind Bernie.

dems fucked up.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 08, 2020, 08:27:32 AM
People who celebrated him were always corny not only cause they chose to prop up some dude on a pedestal because of kideo games, but dude doesn't even make any of those games.

He's just an exec selling shit to you.

I've never been so hyped as when he came on stage, said his name, and said 'we're about kicking ass, we're about taking names, and making games'.  It made me feel like an Evangelical in a billion-dollar church. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 08, 2020, 08:35:40 AM
I stayed up fairly late watching some of that Seattle live footage last night. I'm pretty impressed by the animosity and resilience that they have. It made me think about 20 years ago when I was shocked at how gangster they were during the WTO protests.

Is it just the type of person that lives in the area (passionate), or has there always been this animosity to authority or do the Seattle PD have a terrible reputation?

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 08, 2020, 08:36:19 AM
You can't be over-represented in the electorate.

Everyone of legal age can vote. The electorate just is the electorate.

There is just a lot of boomers.

This isn't what the post means, though I admit it could be worded better since he's using 'representation' both politically, but more statistically.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 08, 2020, 08:50:12 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gyvdas/police_officer_attempts_to_chase_down_and_falsely/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 08, 2020, 09:21:30 AM
I stayed up fairly late watching some of that Seattle live footage last night. I'm pretty impressed by the animosity and resilience that they have. It made me think about 20 years ago when I was shocked at how gangster they were during the WTO protests.

Is it just the type of person that lives in the area (passionate), or has there always been this animosity to authority or do the Seattle PD have a terrible reputation?



everything i've heard about the seattle pd sounds like they go out of their way to make it known that poc aren't welcome in the city
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 08, 2020, 10:24:13 AM
https://twitter.com/RockyMountainBK/status/1269645778500247555
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 08, 2020, 10:42:22 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb9_qGOa9Go&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 08, 2020, 11:39:27 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZPeD2miyF8
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 08, 2020, 11:41:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZPeD2miyF8

:rejoice
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 08, 2020, 12:11:15 PM
Last Week was good

https://tuckbot.tv/#/watch/gyusu4
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: tiesto on June 08, 2020, 12:13:03 PM
BLM protesting hit Smithtown (an upper middle class 90+% white part of Long Island, where I was born and raised), and the counter protestors were in full force:

https://twitter.com/Morales2136/status/1269758611011575811

This also was disgusting to see:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CBJ-A2apgOJ/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Quote
My name is Alejandro I’m 22 from longisland New York. Today in the town of smithtown longisland about 15 minutes where I live me and 4 of my other friends went to a peaceful black lives matter protest. It was peaceful until my friends and I left the protest group for a some water and snacks. We walked past a very large group of white supremacists. As we were walking past they were yelling racist things to my small group and antagonizing us i decided be peaceful and enlighten them on why we protesting, asking just to have a conversation with them and let them know what we stand for and try to understand where they are coming from. They lured me in saying ok lets talk and as i approached the mob of racists i was sucker punched on the side of my head and then the group started jumping me, my 3 friends and my girlfriend immediately started fighting for me and defending me. They swung on my girl friend and attacked my friends and i with weapons. Hitting us with bats and one was even carrying numchucks and striked my friend in his face/head leaving a huge gash on his head covering him up in blood. They truly started attacking us with no warning, We had our hands up seeking a conversation and they lured us in just to hurt us. The police broke it up and instead of immediately grabbing the people who attacked us with weapons, they grabbed me and my friend group up instead. They didn’t say a word to the white supremacists and let them get away with what happened completely. One of the white supremacists even tried yelling to the cops THAT WE HAD A GUN WHEN THEY WERE THE ONES WITH WEAPONS! The cops forced us to go to the police station right away where they did not care and couldn’t have made it anymore obvious, the officer taking our report said “what do you expect it’s your fault for going don’t you see the news” and than said that “well the paper work is done good luck” practically mocking us and not even acknowledging the fact that we were innocently just walking down the street , and got attacked with weapons ASSAULTED ME AND EVERY ONE OF MY FRIENDS. I have a video of these men with the weapons clearly in their hands and them yelling racist things.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 08, 2020, 12:17:49 PM
Last Week was good

https://tuckbot.tv/#/watch/gyusu4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf4cea5oObY&t=504s

They released the entire ep on youtube this week.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 08, 2020, 12:18:21 PM
Only for Americans
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 08, 2020, 12:19:36 PM
.
"Are you allowed to interview people?"

:dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 08, 2020, 12:28:48 PM
https://www.cp24.com/news/toronto-police-could-begin-using-body-cameras-later-this-summer-mayor-says-1.4973944
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 08, 2020, 12:35:23 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/qnjIE8w.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 08, 2020, 12:35:53 PM
https://twitter.com/TEEZYAlNTSHIT/status/1269719633046765573

https://www.polygon.com/2020/6/2/21277972/animal-crossing-new-horizons-black-lives-matter-acnh-nintendo-switch-politics
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 08, 2020, 12:39:10 PM
GTA Online players aren't automatically chasing down black players while calling us nig.ger now?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tuckers Law on June 08, 2020, 12:42:43 PM
I didn’t know butt boys were also democrats, I always assumed they were apolitical or independent.

Or did he mean that butt boys practice democracy?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 08, 2020, 12:43:38 PM
https://twitter.com/jeneps/status/1270026693386866688

:hitler

https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/1269798777969401862

:bow
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tuckers Law on June 08, 2020, 12:43:52 PM
GTA Online players aren't automatically chasing down black players while calling us nig.ger now?
Bigly if true, that would be a first.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 08, 2020, 12:49:16 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/qnjIE8w.jpg)

Wow, just like that famous scene in Dirty Harry, where Clint Eastwood said "I'll mail you the pants, you're all a bunch of democratic butt boys." Actually, that may have been from the porn spoof Dirty Hairy with Clit Hardwood.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 08, 2020, 12:50:47 PM
https://twitter.com/FenitN/status/1270019380156534784
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 08, 2020, 12:52:48 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/qnjIE8w.jpg)

Wow, just like that famous scene in Dirty Harry, where Clint Eastwood said "I'll mail you the pants, you're all a bunch of democratic butt boys." Actually, that may have been from the porn spoof Dirty Hairy with Clit Hardwood.

Nope, it actually is from Dirty Harry Deadpool, 87% sure.   
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 08, 2020, 12:53:28 PM
Quote
"Biden does not believe that police should be defunded. He hears and shares the deep grief and frustration of those calling out for change, and is driven to ensure that justice is done and that we put a stop to this terrible pain. Biden supports the urgent need for reform..."
Shoot 'em in the legs! :biden
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 08, 2020, 01:05:14 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/6EsBdn5.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 08, 2020, 01:43:44 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/qnjIE8w.jpg)

Wow, just like that famous scene in Dirty Harry, where Clint Eastwood said "I'll mail you the pants, you're all a bunch of democratic butt boys." Actually, that may have been from the porn spoof Dirty Hairy with Clit Hardwood.

"I know what you're thinking. 'Did he skeet six times or five?'"
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Oblivion on June 08, 2020, 01:57:28 PM
799,200 to go

fixed
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 08, 2020, 02:00:16 PM
AGNB asking the reporter if he's allowed to interview is still killing me. The media is so fucking worthless :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 08, 2020, 02:18:44 PM
I like the current argument among the liberals and the progressives.

Tweeter 1: "Don't be dumb guys, defund the police OBVIOUSLY does not mean defund the police entirely.
It means allocating less funds to the police in favor of other public services"

Tweeter 2: "ARE YOU DEAF LIBRUL? DEFUND ALL THE FUCKING POLICE!"

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 08, 2020, 02:27:51 PM
Ill take the big L if these protest really lead to disbanding the Minneapolis police force

Nice job ya'll
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 08, 2020, 02:29:03 PM
Having a laugh thinking of a guy who thinks he's smart going "Idiot! You don't defund the police. The police whither away!"
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 08, 2020, 02:33:09 PM
Watching John Oliver tell me about America must be how black people feel about white people talking about "the black experience".

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 08, 2020, 02:38:46 PM
https://twitter.com/jessehawken/status/1270054907110973441
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EchoRin on June 08, 2020, 03:01:29 PM
Watching John Oliver tell me about America must be how black people feel about white people talking about "the black experience".

He is American though. Since 2019

Can we no longer talk about the Dutch if we aren't Dutch?  :(

Edit: huh. He's been here since 2006. The more you know.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on June 08, 2020, 03:31:11 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/qnjIE8w.jpg)
But where will he go to beat up minorities now?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 08, 2020, 04:10:52 PM

Inventor of the Belgian waffle.

Probably a child molester as well. You ever read Hansel & Gretel?


The recent discourse about monuments in the Anglosphere hasn‘t reached Germany yet, at least not in numbers that represent a big chunk of the population.

Otherwise people living on Hindenburg Street(there is one in almost every major city) might have to remember a new address. :whew
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EchoRin on June 08, 2020, 04:25:15 PM
I enjoy messing with my Czech buddies whenever these various statues are removed or torn down that Charles IV is next. One of them always gets a little triggered and starts to build his defense "well you can look at his treatment of Jews to justify taking it down, but...". It's OK my man. Nobody will be tearing down Charles IV statues anytime soon if I had to bet on it.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Oblivion on June 08, 2020, 04:43:55 PM
People who celebrated him were always corny not only cause they chose to prop up some dude on a pedestal because of kideo games, but dude doesn't even make any of those games.

He's just an exec selling shit to you.

I've never been so hyped as when he came on stage, said his name, and said 'we're about kicking ass, we're about taking names, and making games'.  It made me feel like an Evangelical in a billion-dollar church.

yeah, it might be lame, but when he first showed up at e3 2004, it was a pretty great moment.  so it's a shame to see him go down this route, but probably not surprising.

on the other hand, nintendo of japan outright said Black Lives Matter, so at least there's that.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 08, 2020, 04:47:15 PM
he currently has as much to do with nintendo as he does with pizza hut so it's just as correct to discuss how it's a sad day for pizza hut stans  :'(
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EchoRin on June 08, 2020, 04:47:34 PM
I mean I thought J Allard was cool too at E3 2005.

My mind was shattered when I then saw old pictures of him balding and wearing ill fitting clothes looking like just another sleep deprived programmer. Wonder if he still tries to be hip or reverted back to his pre-360 talking dude days.

Edit: found him! Photographed with a cop lol. This picture was with an article from 2019

(https://financialpostcom.files.wordpress.com/2019/11/bike-theft-2.png)

https://business.financialpost.com/feature/stop-bicycle-thief-inside-an-ex-microsoft-wunderkinds-canadian-crusade-to-save-your-bike

Yeah he could totally take Chester's spot in Linkin Park
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 08, 2020, 06:50:51 PM
It's incredibly disappointing to see this wind down this fast.  Civil rights groups really need to do more forms of protest other than just get a lot of people out on the streets.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 08, 2020, 06:52:55 PM
Youtube as pinned a playlist of anti-racist educational videos at the top banner - that's pretty cool. 

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK8qVjkRMI1lRcYp6_W_1qw/featured (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK8qVjkRMI1lRcYp6_W_1qw/featured)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 08, 2020, 07:06:19 PM
Youtube as pinned a playlist of anti-racist educational videos at the top banner - that's pretty cool. 

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK8qVjkRMI1lRcYp6_W_1qw/featured (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK8qVjkRMI1lRcYp6_W_1qw/featured)

Clicking this link will pollute my fucking recommendations with culture war crap forever, won’t it? :stahp
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 08, 2020, 07:07:03 PM
i really don't think it's close to over yet. a lot of the fairweather support - like all these daytime peaceful protests - will dry up, but you'll still see a lot more of the hardcore activists continuing to do protests that will inevitably get attacked by cops. the media will pull off it once trump does something stupid enough again, but cops will continue to hurt and murder innocent people so there'll still be plenty of reason to take to the streets. it's also good that there's still a lot of pushback on this token bullshit like what the democrats are offering. people know that won't change anything.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 08, 2020, 07:15:28 PM
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2020/06/what-its-like-to-get-doxed-for-taking-a-bike-ride.html
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 08, 2020, 07:16:55 PM
https://twitter.com/mmitgang/status/1270123705973104640
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 08, 2020, 07:18:56 PM
That article is pretty scary, can’t imagine just out of nowhere being hounded like that. Especially if you didn’t actually do it...
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 08, 2020, 07:23:03 PM
People who celebrated him were always corny not only cause they chose to prop up some dude on a pedestal because of kideo games, but dude doesn't even make any of those games.

He's just an exec selling shit to you.

I've never been so hyped as when he came on stage, said his name, and said 'we're about kicking ass, we're about taking names, and making games'.  It made me feel like an Evangelical in a billion-dollar church.

yeah, it might be lame, but when he first showed up at e3 2004, it was a pretty great moment.  so it's a shame to see him go down this route, but probably not surprising.

on the other hand, nintendo of japan outright said Black Lives Matter, so at least there's that.
A shame to support his community? Maybe the police chief lady is a relative/friend of his or something.
He was in some other promotional police material too so I guess there's a connection there.

It's pretty cool how Reggie is still involved in the gaming/tech industry and sharing his knowledge and experience with workshops and presentations.
A shame if that would end because of some online hate train he gets caught up in. Thankfully Reggie posted again today and it doesn't look like the internet mob will silence him anytime soon.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 08, 2020, 08:09:26 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/us/brevard-county-florida-police-union-misconduct-trnd/index.html
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 08, 2020, 09:38:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQz0YL9X0P8

Think I should have been a criminal. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 08, 2020, 09:53:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4ofj__h7ss

this is really good.  I think I need a radical black girlfriend in my life. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: kingv on June 08, 2020, 11:09:02 PM
People who celebrated him were always corny not only cause they chose to prop up some dude on a pedestal because of kideo games, but dude doesn't even make any of those games.

He's just an exec selling shit to you.

I've never been so hyped as when he came on stage, said his name, and said 'we're about kicking ass, we're about taking names, and making games'.  It made me feel like an Evangelical in a billion-dollar church.

yeah, it might be lame, but when he first showed up at e3 2004, it was a pretty great moment.  so it's a shame to see him go down this route, but probably not surprising.

on the other hand, nintendo of japan outright said Black Lives Matter, so at least there's that.
A shame to support his community? Maybe the police chief lady is a relative/friend of his or something.
He was in some other promotional police material too so I guess there's a connection there.

It's pretty cool how Reggie is still involved in the gaming/tech industry and sharing his knowledge and experience with workshops and presentations.
A shame if that would end because of some online hate train he gets caught up in. Thankfully Reggie posted again today and it doesn't look like the internet mob will silence him anytime soon.

Hell, Reggies has been undercover passing as like a French guy or whatever everyone thought he was before finding out he was black in like 2015.

I don’t know why anyone would expect him to be super passionate about black issues.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 09, 2020, 04:48:05 AM
pizzagate now trending on twitter, JUSTICE JUNE JUST DON'T MISS.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 09, 2020, 09:41:07 AM
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/body-cam-footage-shows-officer-punching-alabama-store-owner-who-n1228006
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 09, 2020, 09:45:03 AM
Are they giving cops stupid pills or something?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Akala on June 09, 2020, 10:05:13 AM
https://twitter.com/brookied820/status/1270341872301604865
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 09, 2020, 10:14:11 AM
https://twitter.com/brookied820/status/1270341872301604865
This is not even his most wild Tweet today.

That has to be siding with Gorka against Mattis  :dead

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1270350376844361729 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1270350376844361729)

A collection of Wank Dads including Shapiro have appeared on his timeline :rejoice
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 09, 2020, 10:15:58 AM
"he fell harder than was pushed?"

science is off the table apparently now.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 09, 2020, 10:17:21 AM
"he fell harder than was pushed?"

science is off the table apparently now.
The table has gone out the window

Clearly this man was using a secret Antifa scanner to hack the police  :thinking
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 09, 2020, 11:00:26 AM
https://twitter.com/brookied820/status/1270341872301604865

The American president is saying this.  America is completely fucked. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 09, 2020, 11:34:55 AM
Isn’t talking about reawakening like primo Qanon shit?

tfw Barr gets the call to arrest Hillary Clinton and send the National Guard into the New York underground to destroy the pedo bunkers  :killme
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 09, 2020, 11:57:18 AM
I read that he tried to return a helmet he found to the police.   :-\
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 09, 2020, 11:58:41 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEWybj4CpEg

Quote
How racist is Germany? | DW News
:doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 09, 2020, 12:03:26 PM
It's good to see the cross-ocean solidarity but someone should start a  Muslim Lives Matter movement in Germany and see how many people freak out :teehee
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 09, 2020, 12:14:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEWybj4CpEg

Quote
How racist is Germany? | DW News
:doge

Systemic racism is certainly an issue in Germany even though it isn’t as blatantly visible. But I am so pedantic that I have to disagree with Piesche‘s notion that „Germaness“ is a product of the enlightenment. This is just a false claim that is easily refuted, since the notion of a shared German identity can be traced back to Medieval times. Martin Luther was called the modern day Arminius in contemporary works, proving that Tacitus‘ Germania made a lasting impact that has endured over the centuries.

God, I hate being so pedantic when I actually agree with her.  :doge

edit: Most European states still see(or did until very recently) themselves as Ethnostates though, clearly visible on the fact that most have ius sanguinis as the only way to obtain citizenship.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 09, 2020, 12:23:59 PM


Systemic racism is certainly an issue in Germany even though it isn’t as blatantly visible. But I am so pedantic that I have to disagree with Piesche‘s notion that „Germaness“ is a product of the enlightenment. This is just a false claim that is easily refuted, since the notion of a shared German identity can be traced back to Medieval times. Martin Luther was called the modern day Arminius in contemporary works, proving that Tacitus‘ Germania made a lasting impact that has endured over the centuries.

God, I hate being so pedantic when I actually agree with her.  :doge

edit: Most European states still see(or did until very recently) themselves as Ethnostates though, clearly visible on the fact that most have ius sanguinis as the only way to obtain citizenship.

(https://i.imgur.com/2wSuCok.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 09, 2020, 12:26:10 PM
(https://preview.redd.it/k9ebnmfixr351.jpg?width=905&auto=webp&s=ab98cf48166e0b81a1b0afb8dfd099bcbad76751)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 09, 2020, 12:49:41 PM
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/reddit-moderators-letter-racism-black-lives-matter-a9555801.html?utm_source=reddit.com

Should help clean up reddit.  They only ever act after getting bad press.  Just wish r/canada would be cleaned up too. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: zomgee on June 09, 2020, 01:33:40 PM
Hope so. The weak response the CEO offered on the site the other day was pathetic.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 09, 2020, 01:49:41 PM
Violence against the elederly always makes me incredibly angry    :maf

If that was my father I would drive a truck full of explosives into the BPD and wouldn‘t regret it one bit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 09, 2020, 01:54:36 PM
Hope he recovers soon. From cancer and the injury 😞

https://twitter.com/keithgiles/status/1270359191694295040

= (
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 09, 2020, 02:08:00 PM
an elderly guy with cancer and major head trauma? i'm sure he'll bounce right back
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 09, 2020, 03:17:56 PM
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/javier-ambler-i-cant-breathe-texas-police-taser-died/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 09, 2020, 03:18:29 PM
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/teen-girls-organized-10000-person-black-lives-matter-protest-nashville_n_5eda8f78c5b62f530c799daa

 :shaq
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 09, 2020, 03:24:15 PM
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/javier-ambler-i-cant-breathe-texas-police-taser-died/
Quote
A local prosecutor involved in the investigation of Ambler's death also says the circumstances are troubling because it was being filmed for A&E Network's real-time police show "Live PD."
#latestagecapitalism
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on June 09, 2020, 03:31:52 PM
Are they giving cops stupid pills or something?
Or giving stupid idiots badges.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 09, 2020, 03:50:35 PM
https://twitter.com/nathanTbernard/status/1270354073611534339
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 09, 2020, 04:03:29 PM
https://twitter.com/alfonslopeztena/status/1270428081275068416 (https://twitter.com/alfonslopeztena/status/1270428081275068416)

 :idont
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 09, 2020, 04:16:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qhFt3wqUFU

pure fire for a latenight guy
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 09, 2020, 05:14:00 PM
His hand movements were weird but I've watched like 10 times and zoomed and it seems like he just had a huge phone in his hand and was trying to capture badge numbers or soemthing?

Either that or he's just pointing and happened to have the phone in his hand.  You can see he has his pointer finger on the back of the phone, maybe has one of those cases with the "ring" on the back of it.
Yeah, on the picture I saw he had a green sleeve covering his phone. Maybe he had one of those phablets.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 09, 2020, 05:19:40 PM
It was a police helment or something.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 09, 2020, 05:38:18 PM
Comments :lol

https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1270374388488167428
On Twitter everything happens in the comments
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 09, 2020, 05:41:08 PM
https://twitter.com/AlanCavanna/status/1270461614454702086


haha racism make left turrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 09, 2020, 06:12:10 PM
https://twitter.com/NYCPBA/status/1270401236941131776 (https://twitter.com/NYCPBA/status/1270401236941131776)

spoiler (click to show/hide)
These guys have all been watching The Dark Knight too many times  :doge
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Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tuckers Law on June 09, 2020, 06:12:14 PM
 :crybaby
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EchoRin on June 09, 2020, 06:52:36 PM
https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2020/06/b59fc2478e01-nhk-apologizes-for-clip-on-us-blm-protests-after-racism-accusations.html

Heh. Yeah not too surprised NHK misfired.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 09, 2020, 06:53:04 PM
https://twitter.com/StephenGutowski/status/1270482008234491905

When the Free Bacon guy who covers cubs and liberty thinks this is too racist.  :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 09, 2020, 07:11:43 PM
Left out of the conversation?

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 09, 2020, 07:13:31 PM


https://twitter.com/AugustTakala/status/1270399690912272384

I'm so done trying to watch cops justify themselves. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 09, 2020, 07:17:23 PM
Have a guy named Pat Lynch speak out about how unfair everyone's being to the police, brehs.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on June 09, 2020, 07:30:15 PM
It was a police helment or something.
Phones can be used as detonators! :drudge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 09, 2020, 07:49:37 PM
https://twitter.com/Phil_Lewis_/status/1270488652796362753

Bad Cops, Bastard Cops...
What 'cha gonna do?
What 'cha gonna do when they cancel you????

spoiler (click to show/hide)
X-Cops was the only good COPS episode.
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Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 09, 2020, 08:00:04 PM
Does Nintex know a Leopold II statue got torn down in Antwerp
(https://i.imgur.com/9UDeaSa.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: curly on June 09, 2020, 08:38:53 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/S3TJTYW.jpg?1)

Bernie feeding Mandark trolling material :goty2
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 09, 2020, 08:48:23 PM
https://twitter.com/Phil_Lewis_/status/1270488652796362753

Bad Cops, Bastard Cops...
What 'cha gonna do?
What 'cha gonna do when they cancel you????

spoiler (click to show/hide)
X-Cops was the only good COPS episode.
[close]

cops was less brutal than what weve seen in the news lately.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 09, 2020, 08:49:11 PM
defunding police departments and redefining what police departments are the same thing but have become a proxy war for ideological posturing
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 09, 2020, 09:03:25 PM
Remember when Sean McElwee made "Abolish ICE" a thing by repeating it over and over on Twitter, then he stopped saying it because Elizabeth Warren didn't support it and she was his candidate? And Bernie Twitter roasted him for being a hypocrite careerist, but then Bernie didn't support it either so everyone just dropped it?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 09, 2020, 09:14:54 PM
defunding police departments and redefining what police departments are the same thing but have become a proxy war for ideological posturing

redefining what they are/do requires a holistic approach which is more complex than simply adding or removing money

body cameras (when implemented with policies that keep them turned ON) provide accountability and cost money

deescalation training costs money

Camden NJ doubled the size of its police department which costs money

other aspects of redefining police could involve reducing funding, such as having a non-police team for responding to situations that don't require police and presumably wouldn't be funded through the police budget

or demilitarizing the police which means getting rid of the tanks and other equipment, thus removing the ongoing maintenance costs associated with it

all of this is redefining and not simply applying an income debuff
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 09, 2020, 09:23:52 PM
I can't believe sanders didn't full throat all that during the campaign.

What a fucking coward.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: curly on June 09, 2020, 09:30:18 PM
defunding police departments and redefining what police departments are the same thing but have become a proxy war for ideological posturing

serious doubt

also ideological posturing matters
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 09, 2020, 09:31:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBcRjJ_zgQA

Quote
Both George Floyd and Derek Chauvin, the ex-police officer charged for Floyd's death, worked together at a nightclub and had a history of not getting along. The owner of the nightclub says Chauvin was afraid and intimidated by black people. Jeff Pegues has the details.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 09, 2020, 09:39:41 PM
serious doubt
Don't get me wrong, there's a yawning gulf between what Joe Biden wants and what the left proper wants wrt policing. I just mean that what Bernie is saying here - making community spending a priority over a bloated police budget, creating new first responder units, disarming the police, in short, "redefining police departments", even if at the end of the day there is still a force with the same function but at a tenth or a quarter of the size - is 90% of the way to "defund the police".
Quote
also ideological posturing matters
In general sure but not when we're trying to tar and feather left politicians for no policy differences
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 09, 2020, 09:41:06 PM
htt ps://ww w.yout ube.com/watch?v=sBcRjJ_zgQA

Quote
Both George Floyd and Derek Chauvin, the ex-police officer charged for Floyd's death, worked together at a nightclub and had a history of not getting along. The owner of the nightclub says Chauvin was afraid and intimidated by black people. Jeff Pegues has the details.

none of what was said there really contradicts earlier reports that placed them at the same location but not necessarily pinning down that they had ever communicated with each other even once, it's a coworker who wants to be part of the story and provides nothing concrete

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/chauvin-floyd-club-employment/

Quote
Santamaria told us via phone that while the employment history of Floyd and Chauvin at the club did overlap some, it’s unlikely that the two men knew each other.

“They were in different departments, and in different parts of the building,” Santamaria told us. “I don’t think they knew each other. I think that’s a stretch.”

Santamaria said that Chauvin worked at the club long-term as an off-duty police officer who provided security outside the building. Floyd worked as a part-time security guard who was positioned inside the club.

So while it’s true that Floyd and Chauvin worked at the club at the same time, it’s unknown, and unlikely, according to the former owner of the building where the club was located, that the two men knew each other.

additionally if they knew each other well enough that chauvin would've wanted to kill floyd, then why did floyd address him in the video impersonally as "officer"
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 09, 2020, 09:53:33 PM
columbus statue got taken down too
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: curly on June 09, 2020, 09:58:34 PM
serious doubt
Don't get me wrong, there's a yawning gulf between what Joe Biden wants and what the left proper wants wrt policing. I just mean that what Bernie is saying here - making community spending a priority over a bloated police budget, creating new first responder units, disarming the police, in short, "redefining police departments", even if at the end of the day there is still a force with the same function but at a tenth or a quarter of the size - is 90% of the way to "defund the police".
Quote
also ideological posturing matters
In general sure but not when we're trying to tar and feather left politicians for no policy differences

I don't think Bernie's approach would shrink the police because he's fundamentally a social democrat and simply doesn't see politics that way, one that is out of step with what the defunding the police crowd are talking about. Reading through this (https://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/sanders-calls-for-sweeping-reforms-in-senate-democrats-policy-response-to-police-violence) (which of course is better than 99% of what is on the menu) and under his plan we would still end up in a scenario where police departments swallow up the lion's share of local budgets. You don't institute a policy of reform by cutting the budget, it's a significant investment. That he talks about "supplementing" the police with a civilian corps instead of "replacing" them is telling in itself. And from anecdotal experience the protesters are not clamoring to increase the pay of the police. Bernie wants a more humane and accountable police force but decreasing the power of an arm of the state is not in his political wheelhouse.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 09, 2020, 10:02:26 PM
one that is out of step with what the defunding the police crowd are talking about
is there an article somewhere that gives me an example of this view so that I have a point of reference?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Oblivion on June 09, 2020, 10:05:08 PM
how about we start police reforms by making it illegal to turn off body cams?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: curly on June 09, 2020, 10:06:03 PM
nvm I'm dumb

edit: I thought bernie didn't want to disband ICE and I looked it up and he did...I blame Mandark
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 09, 2020, 10:12:02 PM
how about we start police reforms by making it illegal to turn off body cams?
not effective
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 09, 2020, 10:17:08 PM
"Defund the police" for most people* is metonym for "the situation is very fucked up and requires a dramatic change." It's a bit awkward as a slogan when most of the people saying it concede the need for some form of state violence with an attendant bureaucracy. But "defund the current police apparatus while abolishing some of its functions, scaling back some, and delegating others" isn't a great slogan, and people just came together in the last week, they're fed up, and the role of mass protest isn't to produce white papers.

Insofar as there's a boom-and-bust activism cycle, where young people get wildly overoptimistic that they're on the verge of a huge breakthrough and then despondent when it doesn't happen, that's not great but it's just the circle of life with these things. In the short-medium term, the momentum on criminal justice is with the doves for the first time in my lifetime and that's p cool.


spoiler (click to show/hide)
*Obviously there have been police abolitionists way before this, but it's fair to say a lot of people coalesced around this as a rallying cry in the last week.
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Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 09, 2020, 10:17:48 PM
nvm I'm dumb
I just have to ask because I know you also read that Ehrenreich essay and so you know that the police are one of many professions that exist solely to attenuate and manage the externalities of capitalist society. There has to be a organization vested with the authority to use force of some size so long as there is a class systematically brutalized by deprivation. If "defund the police" is the most just policy then I need to know what that looks like as well as read its apologetics because all chapter 5 of State and Revolution says is that everyone will carry guns and jump on the rare violator and I'm not really interested in the George Zimmerman solution
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 09, 2020, 10:20:41 PM
I'm no historian but I'm under an impression that socialist countries also have had cops?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 09, 2020, 10:23:48 PM
Sorry pal there have been no socialist countries since the native American tribes were genocided
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: curly on June 09, 2020, 10:24:41 PM
nvm I'm dumb
I just have to ask because I know you also read that Ehrenreich essay and so you know that the police are one of many professions that exist solely to attenuate and manage the externalities of capitalist society. There has to be a organization vested with the authority to use force of some size so long as there is a class systematically brutalized by deprivation. If "defund the police" is the most just policy then I need to know what that looks like as well as read its apologetics because all chapter 5 of State and Revolution says is that everyone will carry guns and jump on the rare violator and I'm not really interested in the George Zimmerman solution

To clarify I'm not really saying that one approach is clearly preferable to the other just that there is a gap between reforming the police and shrinking it and taking away much of its powers, and that the choice of "Defund" as a slogan signifies a preference towards the second approach by the protesters, who are much more inclined towards anarchism than good communists like you, me, and Bernie Sanders.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 09, 2020, 10:29:10 PM
it's easier to create an environment where cops aren't needed as much, than it is to reform what we currently have in place.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 09, 2020, 10:29:19 PM
I'm so mad. You said Bernie was setting himself up to get dunked on, I said what he said is functionally equivalent, you said they're not, I asked what the other side wants, and you ended by saying defund is just a signal word  :foxx

Tune in next time on NBC's The Bore
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 09, 2020, 10:31:56 PM
it's easier to create an environment where cops aren't needed as much, than it is to reform what we currently have in place.

it's simple, when you catch someone robbing a place you fire one cop and give the robber one year of what would've been the cop's salary so they don't need to steal anymore
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 09, 2020, 10:32:35 PM
I think we can all agree that Uncle is routinely one of the worst posters in this thread
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: curly on June 09, 2020, 10:33:01 PM
I'm so mad. You said Bernie was setting himself up to get dunked on, I said what he said is functionally equivalent, you said they're not, I asked what the other side wants, and you ended by saying defund is just a signal word  :foxx

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Did I do all that

I didn't mean it was empty signalling, but that it was very significant that they called for doing away with instead of remaking
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 09, 2020, 10:34:39 PM
it's easier to create an environment where cops aren't needed as much, than it is to reform what we currently have in place.

it's simple, when you catch someone robbing a place you fire one cop and give the robber one year of what would've been the cop's salary so they don't need to steal anymore
if you outlaw cops, only outlaws will have cops  ;)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 09, 2020, 10:37:26 PM
I think we can all agree that Uncle is routinely one of the worst posters in this thread

I like your posts even if I don't apply a "like" to them, they're really thoughtful
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 09, 2020, 10:46:10 PM
the speed at which abolish the police became defund the police was pretty embarrassing to watch. i'd bet it'd be interesting to see who was so passionate about the "defund" path that they had to rush out and paint it on the street
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 09, 2020, 10:52:50 PM
https://www.fox23.com/news/trending/george-floyd-protests-san-jose-police-fire-rubber-bullets-own-bias-trainer-rupture-his-testicle/K5HUBNAHTJERPBKA2CVC2B5LRU/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Yeti on June 10, 2020, 12:44:32 AM
https://www.fox23.com/news/trending/george-floyd-protests-san-jose-police-fire-rubber-bullets-own-bias-trainer-rupture-his-testicle/K5HUBNAHTJERPBKA2CVC2B5LRU/


Thought this was going to just be a small blurb but it was a pretty interesting and rewarding article.

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(https://www.fox23.com/resizer/dNhSGXcUYFVqhgnQuMQ6netBfps=/1200x675/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/cmg/MEZR54B4KNCG3HMZRO6VIGF2DU.jpg)
:lawd
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Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 10, 2020, 01:27:30 AM
https://twitter.com/Coretta83m/status/1270330614399602690


 :biden
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 10, 2020, 10:05:58 AM
https://apnews.com/180a15ea069de36be58f9db6b97e1180
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on June 10, 2020, 10:34:07 AM
https://twitter.com/nathanfielder/status/1270517071625859072
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 10, 2020, 10:45:46 AM
https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1270451011677798402
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 10, 2020, 11:54:14 AM
https://www.fox23.com/news/trending/george-floyd-protests-san-jose-police-fire-rubber-bullets-own-bias-trainer-rupture-his-testicle/K5HUBNAHTJERPBKA2CVC2B5LRU/


Thought this was going to just be a small blurb but it was a pretty interesting and rewarding article.

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(https://www.fox23.com/resizer/dNhSGXcUYFVqhgnQuMQ6netBfps=/1200x675/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/cmg/MEZR54B4KNCG3HMZRO6VIGF2DU.jpg)
:lawd
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:isthis a filler wife?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on June 10, 2020, 12:52:15 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/elivalley/status/1270412031502569478
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 10, 2020, 12:57:37 PM
"Mrs. Butt, did you know that your son Dick is the leader of the ANTIFA terrorist movement? Yes, I'll hold."
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 10, 2020, 01:34:44 PM
https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1270673090599583744
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on June 10, 2020, 01:38:26 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/elivalley/status/1270412031502569478
(https://i.imgur.com/nUPGL7P.png)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 10, 2020, 01:45:58 PM
I am the Leader of Antifa  :maduro
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 10, 2020, 01:51:30 PM

I have evidence that will lead to the arrest of forums poster shosty.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on June 10, 2020, 02:52:29 PM
I am Sparatcus!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 10, 2020, 03:10:55 PM
https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1270673090599583744

It may surprise you to learn that Tulsa was home to one of the worst race riots/massacres in history!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 10, 2020, 03:29:50 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/elivalley/status/1270412031502569478
(https://i.imgur.com/SSrwvH7.png)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 10, 2020, 03:45:22 PM
https://twitter.com/ELBINAWI/status/1270800764240265216

 :maduro
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 10, 2020, 04:44:14 PM
(https://frinkiac.com/video/S01E08/5fawI06PDraPor1K8HarbpUkGlM=.gif)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 10, 2020, 05:02:29 PM
https://twitter.com/nascar/status/1270819350644211719

Damn.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 10, 2020, 05:14:06 PM
Hillbillies can't catch a break - when one goes flying into the crowd.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tuckers Law on June 10, 2020, 05:21:37 PM
This was just the kind of break that funny cars and monster truck rallies needed to increase their fanbases.

Also: odds on this not actually being enforced by the various Nascar-heavy stadiums?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 10, 2020, 06:04:55 PM
Justice June hitting NASCAR :titus
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 10, 2020, 06:09:19 PM
Boy talk about a second civil war. A certain type of person is about to go apeshit over taking away the beloved confederate flag.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 10, 2020, 06:34:46 PM
man this confrontation is looooooong overdue. the hillbilly tears are gonna be so fucking glorious tho


even still i can't help but feel real uneasy about all this. all these hardline corporate positions are getting moved just like that? i don't trust it.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tuckers Law on June 10, 2020, 06:40:53 PM
Won’t be long until Trump’s on twitter complaining about how this infringes the 1st amendment rights of many fine americans.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 10, 2020, 07:00:10 PM
Amazon pausing the use of their facial recognition system to police...

Fucking finally, only for a year, but they should have never started selling that data to begin with.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 10, 2020, 07:27:33 PM
Amazon pausing the use of their facial recognition system to police...

Fucking finally, only for a year, but they should have never started selling that data to begin with.

can't stop Clearview AI though, they're completely unscrupulous and just shrug and let anyone use it

the ACLU just sued them though
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 11, 2020, 12:17:32 AM
I think this is like Michael from The Office except it's "I... declare... order!!!!!"
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 11, 2020, 12:18:22 AM
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1270933058145923072
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: OnlyRegret on June 11, 2020, 12:34:05 AM
https://twitter.com/icecube/status/1270752897899229184
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: OnlyRegret on June 11, 2020, 12:35:54 AM
sure is fun at capitol hill

https://twitter.com/RHGR/status/1270814875200245760
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 11, 2020, 12:37:38 AM
:dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on June 11, 2020, 01:04:00 AM
Can’t wait for Big Dick Daddy riotous to show them who’s boss  :lawd
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on June 11, 2020, 01:46:00 AM
sure is fun at capitol hill

https://twitter.com/RHGR/status/1270814875200245760

I sorta know this guy, lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: naff on June 11, 2020, 01:57:21 AM
Raz or the twitter dude?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: naff on June 11, 2020, 01:59:38 AM
the video i saw was more like this guy was talking to this kid then smacks the camera out his hand. HES A WARLORD.

it's like when i saw people outraged over these extremely violent proud bois v antifa fights. turned out it was little more than 2 neckbeards slapping eachother (while a lot of ppl yelled at eachother).
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on June 11, 2020, 02:43:37 AM
Raz and I were regulars at a bar in the area
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: naff on June 11, 2020, 03:22:16 AM
4:50

bystander *something indistinguishable*

bystander 2 / camera man? : "omg my partner would love that he's a furry"

speaker 1: "omg i've been told i am!"

alright, show's over. they're taking over the streets. bring in the national guard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrjhcDVBV5k
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 11, 2020, 07:51:01 AM
Sounds like the US is falling apart and needs some UN peacekeepers to restore order  :putin

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seriously venezuela, iraq etc should put forward such a UN resolution for shits and giggles
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Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 11, 2020, 07:58:02 AM
lmao who is running to the internet to snitch on this dude and put his name out everywhere

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why don't we have a karen emote
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Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 11, 2020, 08:05:48 AM


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why don't we have a karen emote
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: karen :karen
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Akala on June 11, 2020, 08:12:20 AM
we need the karen cut on  :social
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: headwalk on June 11, 2020, 08:56:28 AM
is there enough room in those six blocks to provide accomodation for the entire population of resetera, who will no doubt be flooding there in droves to see their utopia bloom into greatness?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 11, 2020, 09:33:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODmT-KDfkC0&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 11, 2020, 10:02:58 AM
(https://preview.redd.it/8ohsaawq89451.png?width=768&auto=webp&s=f24198c229cb51572b8eb0f1206c7c971b3a4981)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2020, 10:11:09 AM
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/mlfsajprhnhsohxphgrs.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Flannel Boy on June 11, 2020, 11:10:15 AM
(https://preview.redd.it/8ohsaawq89451.png?width=768&auto=webp&s=f24198c229cb51572b8eb0f1206c7c971b3a4981)

The United States spends about $14,000 per student, which is a lot more than the OCED average.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 11, 2020, 11:20:45 AM
But that says nothing about how that is distributed or the efficiency of that money. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Flannel Boy on June 11, 2020, 11:23:59 AM
But that says nothing about how that is distributed or the efficiency of that money.
Has nothing to do with the point of the comic.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 11, 2020, 12:03:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqmII4DuJO0

:crazy :mindblown

Quote
Japanese public broadcaster NHK apologized on Tuesday and deleted from its Twitter account an animated video aimed at explaining the background behind U.S. protests for police reform, but which instead sparked online outrage for its depiction of African Americans.

The 1:21 minute clip, which NHK had also broadcast on its Sunday evening program "Sekai no Ima" ("The World Now"), featured a tough-talking black narrator citing the wealth disparity between black and white Americans and the economic impact from the coronavirus.

But it made no mention of police brutality or the death of George Floyd, a black man who died on May 25 after being pinned by the neck for nine minutes by a white officer's knee, which sparked the latest protests.

In the clip, the narrator's bodybuilder-like muscles were bursting out of a white tank top, while other African-American characters included a man with an afro and mutton chop sideburns, and a muscular man in a sleeveless purple suit, fedora-style hat and sandals strumming a guitar.

"While we understand @NHK's intent to address complex racial issues in the United States, it's unfortunate that more thought and care didn't go into this video," the interim head of the U.S. embassy in Tokyo, Joseph M. Young, said on Twitter. "The caricatures used are offensive and insensitive."

NHK said it had decided to take down the tweet after receiving a lot of criticism and that it had posted the video with a "lack of consideration".

"We apologize to those who were made to feel uncomfortable," the broadcaster said on Twitter.

The video had been viewed more than one million times as of midday Tuesday on the programme's @nhk_sekaima Twitter account.

Tennis star Naomi Osaka retweeted the video with a GIF expressing bewilderment.

"This is awful. I'm embarrassed to say I'm Japanese when I see this," tweeted another user, @emiliharatatani. "Do you know what is happening in America now?!"

@CheetosOnToast called it "racist" and "discriminatory".

Baye McNeil, a Japan-based African-American author and activist, said the clip showed the need for local broadcasters to educate themselves.

"Any child who looks at that video will walk away from it feeling, 'Yeah, maybe these people have been treated unfairly... but they're big and awful and scary!'" he told Reuters before the video was removed. "How can they (NHK) think people are going to be sympathetic to the people being oppressed after watching that video?"
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 11, 2020, 12:26:39 PM
(https://preview.redd.it/8ohsaawq89451.png?width=768&auto=webp&s=f24198c229cb51572b8eb0f1206c7c971b3a4981)

The United States spends about $14,000 per student, which is a lot more than the OCED average.

That's mostly just the US having higher GDP per capita + Baumol's cost disease.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 11, 2020, 12:31:56 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1271062068238651392 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1271062068238651392)

 :lol

Wow so easy to beat up defenseless people with no weapons
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 11, 2020, 12:33:31 PM
But that says nothing about how that is distributed or the efficiency of that money.
Has nothing to do with the point of the comic.

chicago closed down like 50 schools and gave the police budget a gigantic boost
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 11, 2020, 12:35:20 PM
American schools also provide like a million societal functions they shouldn’t like feeding poor kids
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 11, 2020, 12:36:45 PM
I went down the street to the highschool to caucus and I was shocked to see that the boys' bathroom had something like a metal pan bolted to the wall for a makeshift sink, no mirrors, and broken tiling in places. Felt like I was in a third world country. The teachers are so underpaid they went on strike last year. The sister of someone I was dating is a teacher here and told me some of the conditions they had to put up with and I was kind flabbergasted because my highschool experience ten years ago was way better than that in retrospect. There are a lot of underfunded schools in this country.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2020, 12:39:21 PM
American schools also provide like a million societal functions they shouldn’t like feeding poor kids

Our local school has been doing summer food programs for the past few years (also during the pandemic), because there are kids that basically don't eat when school's not in session.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Flannel Boy on June 11, 2020, 12:44:33 PM
But that says nothing about how that is distributed or the efficiency of that money.
Has nothing to do with the point of the comic.

chicago closed down like 50 schools and gave the police budget a gigantic boost
Are boards not supposed to close schools when enrollment decreases significantly? A decade ago there were 407,000 students enrolled in the Chicago board and now there are 361,314.

And despite decreasing enrollment, the budget is still going up. https://chicago.suntimes.com/2019/8/28/20837745/school-board-oks-7-7-billion-budget-largest-in-history It's not an either or.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 11, 2020, 12:46:33 PM
Universal free breakfast and lunch at public schools (with programs extending that into the summer) would be cool.

"school lunch debt" gtfo
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Flannel Boy on June 11, 2020, 12:52:18 PM
(https://preview.redd.it/8ohsaawq89451.png?width=768&auto=webp&s=f24198c229cb51572b8eb0f1206c7c971b3a4981)

The United States spends about $14,000 per student, which is a lot more than the OCED average.

That's mostly just the US having higher GDP per capita + Baumol's cost disease.
You're right, but if you factor in GDP, it still puts the US at the OECD average. Sixth highest GDP per capita, 5th most spent per student. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 11, 2020, 12:54:39 PM
Have you ever been to an American primary or secondary school? Real question.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 11, 2020, 12:56:15 PM
right because good lord this money is not being spent on students, teachers, or materials that's for damn sure
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Flannel Boy on June 11, 2020, 01:03:14 PM
Have you ever been to an American primary or secondary school? Real question.

I rejected the premise of the comic: that schools are underfunded or closing because the money is going to pay the police. A) The US spends less on police than the EU when GDP is factored. B) The US spends at least as much as OECD countries on education per student when GDP is taken into account.

At no time, however, did I say many US schools aren't shit.

To answer your question: no. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 11, 2020, 01:05:20 PM
well I'm glad we agree, the US should reprioritize schools over police departments
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tuckers Law on June 11, 2020, 01:15:31 PM
Not a fan of “actually” arguments when it comes to an overcrowded school system having to do more with less in the face of ballooning budgets for police municipalities filled with FPS dougs wanting to larp at war while on the job.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 11, 2020, 01:18:06 PM
hello i am a pedant and i have come to save you from your tired bickering
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Flannel Boy on June 11, 2020, 01:29:51 PM
God forbid that you have to show that the premises upon which your arguments are based are actually true.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 11, 2020, 01:47:16 PM
I think you're being unfair to malek, but he's expecting nuance out of a comic strip. So, I don't know if I can defend him totally.

Anyways, my limited perspective about  schools in America is that they prioritize learning tools over teachers/building maintenance. Then the teachers/administrators feel compelled to fill out budgets every year with marginally useful materials in order to keep those budgets maintained. There's a lot of waste because of this.  They'd rather spend 100k on smartboards or other tech instead of hiring a new teacher or upgrading a facility.

But that's my tiny perspective in a system that has 10000 different districts and 50 different states all pulling in different directions. It makes it hard to generalize when youre talking about this frankenstein of a system that has been created over the past 70+ years.





Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tuckers Law on June 11, 2020, 02:04:03 PM
I’m not trying to be a dick about it, it’s just something rather personal for me considering there was a couple years in elementary(primary) school where I relied on those free lunches.  My takeaway from the comic is a general “police get money to police troublemakers, some who might be troublemakers because their schooling needs weren’t attended to in a push to ‘save money’.  Maybe if schools have more to support their kids, less of those kids will decide that crime is their best option to make it, and police wouldn’t feel like they need more to do their job.”
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tuckers Law on June 11, 2020, 02:13:22 PM
Apologies to Flannel for the snark, and apologies to everyone for the care post. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 11, 2020, 02:41:02 PM
My wife is a public school teacher and while she easily spends 400-500 OOP for her classroom, it's usually related to special events and incentives for the kids. She's not reaching into her pocket to buy general supplies.  Also, the Government realizes this and offers a 250 tax credit to all educators to cover some of this. It should be 4x that.




Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 11, 2020, 03:46:00 PM
https://twitter.com/JamesQueallyLAT/status/1271164039238782978
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 11, 2020, 03:52:29 PM
American schools also provide like a million societal functions they shouldn’t like feeding poor kids

 schools are as much childcare institutions as vehicles for education so we might as well just make them actually good at that function also.

:idont

I’m all for it, no one else doing it. Just saying it’s not fair to compare what we spend on schools per student when our schools are responsible for much more than schooling in their communities
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 11, 2020, 04:58:01 PM
Anyways, my limited perspective about  schools in America is that they prioritize learning tools over teachers/building maintenance. Then the teachers/administrators feel compelled to fill out budgets every year with marginally useful materials in order to keep those budgets maintained. There's a lot of waste because of this.  They'd rather spend 100k on smartboards or other tech instead of hiring a new teacher or upgrading a facility.

yeah, some of this isn't even under control of the school or the school system, just moronic budgetary/bureaucratic realities

you have ten money buckets and you can't take money out of the widgets bucket and put it into the staffing bucket, instead you have to spend all of the money in the widgets bucket otherwise you've proven that you will never need that much widget money in the future, likewise for every other budget
:beli
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 11, 2020, 05:58:44 PM
America:


Justice system: Fucked
Education system: Fucked
Healthcare system: Fucked
Voting system: Fucked
Legislative system: Fucked
Economic/Banking system: Fucked



:beli
gaming system:  :gamer
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 11, 2020, 06:42:25 PM
https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1271164619214766080 (https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1271164619214766080)

 :rage
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 11, 2020, 06:48:39 PM
Just a matter of time before the BBC changes its name  8)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 11, 2020, 06:55:58 PM
https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1271070525994008578

https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1269690955696832526

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Far-right British politician Nigel Farage left his LBC radio station job on Thursday, a sudden departure following his controversial statements this week comparing Black Lives Matter protesters to the Taliban.

“Nigel Farage’s contract with LBC is up very shortly and, following discussions with him, Nigel is stepping down from LBC with immediate effect,” LBC said in a statement. “We thank Nigel for the enormous contribution he has made to LBC and wish him well.”
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: tiesto on June 11, 2020, 08:43:11 PM
right because good lord this money is not being spent on students, teachers, or materials that's for damn sure

On the island, some of the high-level administrators are pulling in 500 grand a year... it's ridiculous.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 11, 2020, 09:14:18 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/wTG2oZZ.jpg)

 :shaq
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 11, 2020, 09:15:05 PM
Big tiddy goth activists :noah
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 11, 2020, 09:27:38 PM
yo kenny wtf is going on over in germany

https://www.twitch.tv/livenowmedia
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 11, 2020, 09:38:02 PM
yo kenny wtf is going on over in germany

https://www.twitch.tv/livenowmedia

That "stream" was a VOD from yesterday from Leipzig. Just some black bloc shenanigans. 500 people were having a go at the cops.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 11, 2020, 09:42:44 PM
Looks like it was a spontaneous demonstration against raids that targeted people of the extremie left and autonomist groups


:kermit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on June 11, 2020, 11:01:19 PM
Headed into the Chaz now
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 11, 2020, 11:02:52 PM
Headed into the Chaz now
can you do a lifestream or something? I want to see the hippie shit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 11, 2020, 11:04:08 PM
Headed into the Chaz now
tell them under no circumstances should they let roit in  :hmph
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 11, 2020, 11:09:31 PM
Just don’t bring your significant other. These things always morph into a sex cult.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 11, 2020, 11:17:53 PM
That's a reason to bring your significant other
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on June 11, 2020, 11:27:19 PM
ahh I meant that as a new post that quoted the first one and not an edit of it, now I'm too lazy to go fix things
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Kara on June 12, 2020, 12:23:44 AM
My wife is a public school teacher and while she easily spends 400-500 OOP for her classroom, it's usually related to special events and incentives for the kids. She's not reaching into her pocket to buy general supplies.  Also, the Government realizes this and offers a 250 tax credit to all educators to cover some of this. It should be 4x that.

It's an adjustment to gross income. Those are good but significantly worse than a tax credit.

Also, while no one really gives a shit about $250 in Minecraft, the necessary and ordinary test applies to any expenses included in the adjustment on a return that are not enumerated in the relevant portion of the Internal Revenue Code.

This concludes InKKKome TaKKKs KKKorner. :money
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 12, 2020, 12:24:39 AM
see what fuckin' happens when you stop posting, kara?

hope you're happy
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 12, 2020, 12:44:30 AM
I would’ve made tax code mistakes sooner if I knew that’s all it took.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 12, 2020, 12:46:39 AM
https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1271250864733409281
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 12, 2020, 12:56:08 AM
All these right wing lunatics coming out of the woodwork stresses me out :titus
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 12, 2020, 01:10:35 AM
Suspect in Deputy Slaying is Team Leader on ‘Elite’ Air Force Security Team (https://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigations/suspect-in-deputy-slaying-is-team-leader-on-elite-air-force-security-team/2305680/)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on June 12, 2020, 01:17:15 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/wTG2oZZ.jpg)

 :shaq

I guess I’m racist then  :goty
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on June 12, 2020, 01:24:44 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/ErikWemple/status/1271263135526277123
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 12, 2020, 01:25:30 AM
NBBC news  ;)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 12, 2020, 01:41:06 AM
https://twitter.com/journorosa/status/1271234182631522307


boogie  :pacspit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 12, 2020, 01:55:04 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/1vycCBn.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 12, 2020, 02:18:33 AM
https://twitter.com/NetflixIsAJoke/status/1271312504472301571
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Beezy on June 12, 2020, 02:18:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tR6mKcBbT4
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 12, 2020, 10:08:43 AM
That was powerful shit. I couldn't sleep after I watched it last night.

Dave is the same age as me and you can just hear it in his voice. He's pissed nothing has gotten better since the early 90's when all of this same sadness, bitterness and despair consumed the nation.

As a young person you just assume (hope) that it will get better. The old generation dies off and the new generation that replaces them will do a better job. But all these fucking cops killing black people are from our generation. The generation that was supposed to know better and do better.

It's then when you realize how malignant systemic racism is.

 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 12, 2020, 01:03:47 PM
https://twitter.com/marty_walsh/status/1271455726133825536
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Akala on June 12, 2020, 01:57:07 PM
https://twitter.com/chris_granger/status/1271156986361663490
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 12, 2020, 04:02:34 PM
 :fbm
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 12, 2020, 04:25:02 PM
https://lawandcrime.com/george-floyd-death/nypd-lt-who-kneeled-with-protesters-said-he-will-be-shamed-for-the-rest-of-his-life-wants-to-kick-his-own-ass/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 12, 2020, 04:36:43 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ORHiZH8.png)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tuckers Law on June 12, 2020, 04:45:19 PM
So many cops today remind me of Buzzcut from Beavis and Butthead.  Just so goddamn aggro.

Edit: got names mixed up
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 12, 2020, 05:48:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcrMey3XVk4
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on June 12, 2020, 10:55:41 PM
https://twitter.com/biocosmopolitan/status/1271625197154496512
https://twitter.com/biocosmopolitan/status/1271628191375843328
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 13, 2020, 04:30:26 AM
the sphinx and pyramids were built with slave labor to honor royalty or some bourgeoisie shid  :pacspit tear those symbols of oppression down!! :ltg
(https://i.imgur.com/8HCwpuw.jpg) :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 13, 2020, 04:35:13 AM
https://twitter.com/thesunus/status/1271706516102483968

The south rises
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 13, 2020, 04:40:07 AM
the sphinx and pyramids were built with slave labor to honor royalty or some bourgeoisie shid  :pacspit tear those symbols of oppression down!! :ltg

Didn't later research show that the people that built the pyramids were actually treated well. They were paid workers, not slaves. And they held banquets or something to make sure they were well fed.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 13, 2020, 04:41:42 AM
they ate at olive garden every night, but you can't please everyone  :larry
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 13, 2020, 04:59:01 AM
Reminds me of the scene in the Asterix comic book were Cleopatra sends out a messenger to get her a pizza from Italy. Don't think he made the 30-minute delivery promise.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 13, 2020, 05:02:53 AM
shoulda ordered chinese  :trumps
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: MMaRsu on June 13, 2020, 06:47:20 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnCleese/status/1271535485467283457
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 13, 2020, 06:47:51 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaYrMHyWAAI4OI3?format=jpg)

https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1271675123024556033 (https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1271675123024556033)

https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1271684755138871296 (https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1271684755138871296)

https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1271696092871028736 (https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1271696092871028736)

https://twitter.com/annvandersteel/status/1271742023972851712 (https://twitter.com/annvandersteel/status/1271742023972851712)

:maduro
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 13, 2020, 06:58:32 AM
 8)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 13, 2020, 09:10:45 AM
https://twitter.com/g4ffer_/status/1271782488524959744
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: who is ted danson? on June 13, 2020, 09:44:35 AM
Everyone there could be a Norf FC (https://www.reddit.com/r/NorfFc/) character
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 13, 2020, 10:24:25 AM
That last guy who rolled his fists like it was a 1920s bare knuckle championship. I think he was trying to square up a female officer too. What a cunt.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Beezy on June 13, 2020, 10:35:15 AM
I am so confused about what's happening in Seattle right now.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: chronovore on June 13, 2020, 11:02:14 AM
Seattle is a typical metropolitan city, largely full of educated and cultured types. As with any metropolitan city, the police are generally not that. They have been lying and falsifying their situation, and trying to set up the citizenry who are against their peddling of violence for some kind of fail. But they’re not smart enough to do it right, and are being caught out in their lies.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 13, 2020, 11:19:28 AM
https://twitter.com/unionlib/status/1271819518411767809

LOL these footy lads, "We're here to protect statues etc"

Pisses on a memorial lol...

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on June 13, 2020, 11:47:25 AM
Seattle is a typical metropolitan city, largely full of educated and cultured types. As with any metropolitan city, the police are generally not that. They have been lying and falsifying their situation, and trying to set up the citizenry who are against their peddling of violence for some kind of fail. But they’re not smart enough to do it right, and are being caught out in their lies.

Riotous is neither educated or cultured  ::)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 13, 2020, 12:53:18 PM
https://twitter.com/EdClowes/status/1271780011725467648

https://twitter.com/EdClowes/status/1271784612470161409

https://twitter.com/EdClowes/status/1271799548911005696

https://twitter.com/EdClowes/status/1271803498653458434

https://twitter.com/EdClowes/status/1271808656741457922

https://twitter.com/EdClowes/status/1271843117554176000

https://twitter.com/Delo_Taylor/status/1271801575758073859
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 13, 2020, 12:59:24 PM
https://twitter.com/RealMarkKennedy/status/1271237314321223681
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: curly on June 13, 2020, 01:02:55 PM
https://twitter.com/biocosmopolitan/status/1271625197154496512
https://twitter.com/biocosmopolitan/status/1271628191375843328

The overly-polite driving thing annoyed the shit out of me in Portland which I assume is basically the same as Seattle
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Akala on June 13, 2020, 01:08:41 PM
london is wild

https://twitter.com/judeblay/status/1271768658948296704
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: curly on June 13, 2020, 01:14:15 PM
Chelsea supporters m8
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 13, 2020, 02:30:43 PM
https://twitter.com/EdClowes/status/1271838813778776067
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 13, 2020, 03:02:16 PM
And now you know why I am so pro-Churchill-statues.  I've been outed. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 13, 2020, 03:04:12 PM
london is wild

https://twitter.com/judeblay/status/1271768658948296704

That seems like smart fencing - creates distance and is hard to remove. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 13, 2020, 03:37:27 PM
https://twitter.com/getfiscal/status/1271872182268891139

aka mark steyn syndrome

who was the guy on here who was fanboy of him and elon musk? pretty sure I bullied him off the board
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Rufus on June 13, 2020, 04:40:52 PM
https://twitter.com/getfiscal/status/1271872182268891139

aka mark steyn syndrome

who was the guy on here who was fanboy of him and elon musk? pretty sure I bullied him off the board
Syph
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: headwalk on June 13, 2020, 05:05:34 PM
love this image, proper iconic:

(https://i.imgur.com/qisS5sl.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 13, 2020, 06:02:44 PM
https://twitter.com/karensgonewild_/status/1271894061914480640
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 13, 2020, 07:14:15 PM
Saw that the other day, the original post had less than a thousand likes and I figured it would get lost in the shuffle.

I'm genuinely glad that former Washington Bullet Rex Chapman used his large following on a microblogging platform to amplify a video of abusive police behavior, so that it might not be totally overshadowed by the resurgent pandemic, or the upcoming speech on race relations by 80's mogul Donald Trump who is somehow president.

Running out of ways to paraphrase "2020 is weird and bad."
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 13, 2020, 07:16:23 PM
Atlanta Police Chief fired :leon
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 13, 2020, 07:16:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZAWkdRWUqk
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on June 13, 2020, 07:21:45 PM
edit: Oh, already posted
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 13, 2020, 07:44:37 PM
https://twitter.com/EdClowes/status/1271784612470161409

Trying to figure out which one of these guys is the wrecker.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 13, 2020, 07:45:58 PM
https://twitter.com/AnarchistGeog/status/1271947187308490753

Cursedboomermemes.jpg
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 13, 2020, 08:33:12 PM
https://twitter.com/BLM041115/status/1269601296694284291
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 13, 2020, 10:21:15 PM
https://twitter.com/UR_Ninja/status/1271956591605092355

someone ought to figure out what's wrong with Philadelphia
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 13, 2020, 10:24:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sA3yoNZric

Not a big fan of this guy, but this had some good points.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 13, 2020, 10:34:09 PM
https://twitter.com/lfs6b/status/1271858998774505473

:lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 13, 2020, 10:39:09 PM
https://twitter.com/UR_Ninja/status/1271956591605092355

someone ought to figure out what's wrong with Philadelphia
https://twitter.com/UR_Ninja/status/1271961294007160832
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on June 14, 2020, 02:02:59 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaalGuVXkAEIICy?format=jpg&name=large)

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1271624335212654594
@15 seconds
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 14, 2020, 02:10:40 AM
COME, COME, SEE THE VIOLENCE INHERENT IN THE SYSTEM
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 14, 2020, 12:30:02 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0fwyn4kKbA
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 14, 2020, 12:36:41 PM
Think this shows that the embers are still burning hot and anytime we see the police use excessive force there is going to be a large reaction. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Beezy on June 14, 2020, 01:29:59 PM
The media isn't as focused on this anymore, but it hasn't died down at all. Multiple protests are still happening in cities daily.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 14, 2020, 01:55:03 PM
The issue is the media is needed for change or at least needed for a national/global level conversation.  Without the media, the protests are pretty useless. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 14, 2020, 02:21:31 PM
social media is a medium
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 14, 2020, 02:23:16 PM
I should actually read Marshall McLuhan...
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 14, 2020, 02:39:46 PM
https://twitter.com/axios/status/1272206304174628864

:foxx
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 14, 2020, 02:46:15 PM
Think this shows that the embers are still burning hot and anytime we see the police use excessive force there is going to be a large reaction.

Seems to be far less people talking about this compared to the last week or two.  The ATL police chief resigned after this, too.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 14, 2020, 02:50:21 PM
Qualified immunity isn't inherently a problem, because police using appropriate amounts of force to lawfully detain an unwilling suspect shouldn't automatically leave them open to civil suits for things like assault.

What it needs is oversight as to what the qualifiers in qualified immunity are. Qualified immunity should be - as the name implies qualified.
Things like a bodycam that's turned off allowing for indemnification would be a good start.
As would unaffiliated third party oversight determining what constitutes 'reasonable', on a case by case basis.
If a complaints panel determines that kneeling on an otherwise complying suspects neck for 10 minutes is not a reasonable degree of force, then doing that is then not protected under qualified immunity.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Beezy on June 14, 2020, 03:54:02 PM
https://twitter.com/tim__fitzgerald/status/1272237030160977921
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on June 14, 2020, 04:15:06 PM
It's interesting how differently the Atlanta killing is being covered compared to George Floyd in that a whole lot of people on all the networks are basically saying "wellllll....he did pull their weapon on them sooo...uh....he shouldn't be dead tho"

A teaser. Those cops where aware it was just a teaser.

Thought, the guy fucked up in resisting and running away (Obviously, killing him for that is stupid as hell).

Also, why burn the fucking Wendy’s?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 14, 2020, 04:18:53 PM
You don't need a reason to burn a Wndy's. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on June 14, 2020, 04:20:43 PM
I like Wendy’s :( (then again, is kind of luxury fast food here in Mexico).

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 14, 2020, 04:57:08 PM
https://twitter.com/MichelReuters/status/1272243274795962373 (https://twitter.com/MichelReuters/status/1272243274795962373)

Quote
He said the coronavirus pandemic had exposed the “flaws and fragility” of France’s, and more broadly Europe’s, over-reliance on global supply chains, from the car industry to smart phones and pharmaceuticals.

“The only answer is to build a new, stronger economic model, to work and produce more, so as not to rely on others,” Macron said.

 :salute
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 14, 2020, 05:12:16 PM
As would unaffiliated third party oversight determining what constitutes 'reasonable', on a case by case basis.
If a complaints panel determines that kneeling on an otherwise complying suspects neck for 10 minutes is not a reasonable degree of force, then doing that is then not protected under qualified immunity.

We already have unaffiliated third party oversight and it's the judicial system. Don't see how swapping out courts for a "complaints panel" fixes this.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 14, 2020, 05:56:38 PM
https://abc7news.com/society/woman-who-called-police-on-sf-man-stenciling-black-lives-matter-on-his-property-apologizes-/6247494/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 14, 2020, 06:05:59 PM
We must preserve Marie Antoinette statues!
if there’s one thing french republicanism won’t stand for, it’s the violent erasure of the country’s anti-republican past (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dechristianization_of_France_during_the_French_Revolution)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 14, 2020, 06:40:52 PM
(https://preview.redd.it/4xwk1hy74x451.png?width=616&auto=webp&s=d2359dad3e2a0a73579ac3583b5959c1d0e39f79)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 14, 2020, 06:43:16 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/9MRib0J.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: naff on June 15, 2020, 12:11:42 AM
"@crulge"  ::)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 15, 2020, 02:03:00 PM
https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1272566570716475392

Lose your job because you had to backup your wife into doing a racism.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 15, 2020, 03:55:27 PM
https://twitter.com/TheRealOJ32/status/1272608870548910081

 :pimp
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 15, 2020, 04:00:25 PM
dude was just eating his ice pop.

What a dumb cunt that lady is.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 15, 2020, 04:16:56 PM
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1272614685326671873 (https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1272614685326671873)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 15, 2020, 04:27:11 PM
600 new members to their pro-crime unit.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: MMaRsu on June 15, 2020, 04:37:07 PM
https://twitter.com/EdClowes/status/1271784612470161409

Trying to figure out which one of these guys is the wrecker.

Looks like the dutch version of morons
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: MMaRsu on June 15, 2020, 04:50:47 PM
Also fuck those pricks ovsr at the colombus statue defending him saying they were savages

Yeah the fucking europeans coming in slaying indiginous americans were savages, ur right.

Fucjing clowns just kill them all and be done with it.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 15, 2020, 05:01:24 PM
Columbus day is a bit of a de facto Italian-American holiday similar to how St. Patrick's Day is for Irish-Americans. Symbol of them having the old world heritage but still being accepted as part of the American fabric blah blah blah.

If Lincoln had committed to ending slavery earlier we could have had Union General Garibaldi instead. They should just swap in statues of Frank Sinatra or Bon Jovi or whoever.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 15, 2020, 05:03:54 PM
Ya I feel iffy about taking down Columbus statues because he is one of like the only pocs in early American history.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I can't even remember if I said this like only 2 pages back.
[close]
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 15, 2020, 05:03:54 PM
They should change it to ‘This fuckin’ guy day’ and then no one can be offended :rollsafe
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 15, 2020, 05:51:18 PM
https://twitter.com/BlockaIsBack/status/1272257517494599686

 :pimp
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on June 16, 2020, 02:35:08 AM
Nintex warned us: https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2020/06/protesters-take-down-thomas-jefferson-statue-in-front-of-portlands-jefferson-high-school.html
(https://www.oregonlive.com/resizer/UZUAwMZWLUn_Uz1i4o7lMhehIUE=/1280x0/smart/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/advancelocal/4MMO6XREFFEA7G3CSNSE6BDBAI.jpg)
 :usacry :usacry :usacry :usacry
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 16, 2020, 07:12:47 AM
https://twitter.com/BillFOXLA/status/1272735478043697154 (https://twitter.com/BillFOXLA/status/1272735478043697154)

Wow cops are getting free COVID-19 cures  8)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 16, 2020, 07:23:11 AM
How many of these stories wind up being bogus?

Remember the cop who forgot he took a bite out of his own sandwich before putting it in the work fridge and accused the McDonald's or whatever?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: MMaRsu on June 16, 2020, 07:40:55 AM
The shakeshack story is bogus
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 16, 2020, 07:51:55 AM
https://twitter.com/NYPDDetectives/status/1272801631961260032

shocked, SHOCKED
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on June 16, 2020, 08:15:53 AM
Oh btw cops are STILL beating the shit out of/gassing/shooting peaceful protesters all around the country even though the news media isn't covering protests as much anymore. NYPD is still getting recorded daily beating and gassing peaceful protesters without provocation. Smaller cities in the mid west are having the same shit going on. There's a story out of Ft. Wayne where a 3 year old got pepper sprayed, cops waited for her to get cleaned up and stop crying, then threw a tear gas canister at her feet while she was naked and covered in all the gunk. They weren't even protesting. The girl and her mother lived downtown and were trying to get home when they had to leave their car because of tear gas. Then the cops pepper sprayed and threw a tear gas canister at a toddler for lulz.

Wild shit going on in Arizona and NM. My city's police department banned choke holds and then literally 2 days later a guy got arrested in something unrelated to protesting, wasn't resisting at all, was half in handcuffs, and the cop just randomly puts him in a rear naked choke and throws him to the ground where he and the other cop put their knees on his upper back and shoulders.

Also seeing a lot of videos of cops declining to intervene in situations like: A group of white guys surrounding an Asian man and shoving him into the middle of traffic, a group of stars and bars guys assaulting a guy asking police where he can protest as they watch him get punched in the head and don't react at all, police allowing wild ass white guys with assault rifles to intimidate protesters and refusing to act until they literally start shooting at people.

None of this is cooling down. Just because you aren't seeing it as much on TV doesn't mean it has ended.

It’s okay.

The Last of Us Part II will bring the nation together and heal any divides in just three days  :blessup
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: MMaRsu on June 16, 2020, 09:18:34 AM
Cops are such fucking pussies
And also pieces of human feces
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 16, 2020, 12:31:49 PM
This madness needs to end, we need a Nintendo Direct.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 16, 2020, 01:08:44 PM
Seattle City Council banned the police department from purchasing tear gas or rubber bullets
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tuckers Law on June 16, 2020, 01:30:04 PM
Oh btw cops are STILL beating the shit out of/gassing/shooting peaceful protesters all around the country even though the news media isn't covering protests as much anymore. NYPD is still getting recorded daily beating and gassing peaceful protesters without provocation. Smaller cities in the mid west are having the same shit going on. There's a story out of Ft. Wayne where a 3 year old got pepper sprayed, cops waited for her to get cleaned up and stop crying, then threw a tear gas canister at her feet while she was naked and covered in all the gunk. They weren't even protesting. The girl and her mother lived downtown and were trying to get home when they had to leave their car because of tear gas. Then the cops pepper sprayed and threw a tear gas canister at a toddler for lulz.

Wild shit going on in Arizona and NM. My city's police department banned choke holds and then literally 2 days later a guy got arrested in something unrelated to protesting, wasn't resisting at all, was half in handcuffs, and the cop just randomly puts him in a rear naked choke and throws him to the ground where he and the other cop put their knees on his upper back and shoulders.

Also seeing a lot of videos of cops declining to intervene in situations like: A group of white guys surrounding an Asian man and shoving him into the middle of traffic, a group of stars and bars guys assaulting a guy asking police where he can protest as they watch him get punched in the head and don't react at all, police allowing wild ass white guys with assault rifles to intimidate protesters and refusing to act until they literally start shooting at people.

None of this is cooling down. Just because you aren't seeing it as much on TV doesn't mean it has ended.
Shit like this helps to keep me remembering that the police and their connected apparatuses remain the largest violent gang in America, even down to their tactics as individuals.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on June 16, 2020, 01:49:51 PM
Seattle City Council banned the police department from purchasing tear gas or rubber bullets

(https://i.imgur.com/NADDVOJ.png)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 16, 2020, 02:09:16 PM
More like they'll just use real bullets
That was my first thought when stories were coming out that they were running out of non lethal munitions.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 16, 2020, 02:30:38 PM
(https://preview.redd.it/hsgimik2i9551.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=94f2cd08694840eacd2105936e10137168b7179a)

:rofl
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 16, 2020, 02:39:24 PM
they should unionize
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 16, 2020, 02:44:58 PM
1950: "All overtime is to be paid as required by law."

1990: "Of course law enforcement understands that budget cuts are necessary and not all overtime will be paid."

2016: "We appreciate law enforcement putting in the extra hours. They will receive a very special bonus at the end of this year shipped from our military bases in Iraq."

2020: "The President wants to thank our great law enforcement for all the wonderful work they have been doing. Which is why we are launching #CopMemes with our best memers. We know they very much appreciate this opportunity to work and put in more hours to make this country great again."
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 16, 2020, 03:13:05 PM
Let's destroy the cars of disabled people

https://twitter.com/ybouziar/status/1272878092172886016 (https://twitter.com/ybouziar/status/1272878092172886016)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 16, 2020, 03:17:55 PM
Let's destroy the cars of disabled people

https://twitter.com/ybouziar/status/1272878092172886016 (https://twitter.com/ybouziar/status/1272878092172886016)

Don't worry, capitalism will crush these black bloc anarchist teenagers soon enough :success
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 16, 2020, 03:44:46 PM
Let's destroy the cars of disabled people

https://twitter.com/ybouziar/status/1272878092172886016 (https://twitter.com/ybouziar/status/1272878092172886016)

Don't worry, capitalism will crush these black bloc anarchist teenagers soon enough :success

dat rollover safety rating.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: MMaRsu on June 16, 2020, 03:47:43 PM
Ugh the French. Yeah fuck them too.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on June 16, 2020, 04:25:43 PM
 :rofl :rofl :rofl

https://mobile.twitter.com/bri_sacks/status/1272625597622042626
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Akala on June 16, 2020, 05:09:46 PM
https://twitter.com/BenjaminPDixon/status/1272870941098418176
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Steve Contra on June 16, 2020, 05:29:11 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/passantino/status/1272942500630626304

Who is surprised???
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 16, 2020, 05:35:50 PM
Quote
right-wing Boogaloo movement

2020 is some wild shit.

At first you guys had the Proud Boys who have more gay subtext than the Bore and now this.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: MMaRsu on June 16, 2020, 05:40:30 PM
Jeesh why are COPS so on edge in the US?

They seem like chill ppl in the UK (and most other countries)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf0ThqEdV9o
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Rufus on June 16, 2020, 05:53:10 PM
Cause they get away with damn near everything.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 16, 2020, 06:11:41 PM
https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1272882374435639296
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 16, 2020, 06:20:07 PM
Jeff Sessions has to be the most emasculated politician of the generation, still caping for Trump after Trump completely denigrating him in public for 2 years and making sure to endorse whoever is running against him

I thought until three days ago that he was the same guy as this dude.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Winners_Dont_Use_Drugs.png)

:existential
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 16, 2020, 06:28:30 PM
Just wrapping my mind around the New York police union retweeting an Alabama politician defending Confederate monuments.

There's nothing in that which connects to law enforcement. No dogwhistle, no code, no plausible deniability in that tweet. Just complete mask-off kulture war insanity.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 16, 2020, 06:30:02 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/16/us/martin-gugino-protester-skull/

Buffalo protester Martin Gugino has a fractured skull and cannot walk  :(
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 16, 2020, 06:32:08 PM
https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1272882374435639296

Retweets aren't always endorsments.


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Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 16, 2020, 06:40:55 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/16/us/martin-gugino-protester-skull/

Buffalo protester Martin Gugino has a fractured skull and cannot walk  :(

seeing that video brought back some memories that fucked me up pretty bad

then the cops all walking past him, the statement that he tripped and fell when they knew there was video out there, the solidarity the cops were showing after that

fuck
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Steve Contra on June 16, 2020, 08:02:42 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/16/us/martin-gugino-protester-skull/

Buffalo protester Martin Gugino has a fractured skull and cannot walk  :(
"I think it's very unnecessary to focus on me. There are plenty of other things to think about besides me."

 :tocry
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 16, 2020, 08:29:53 PM
https://twitter.com/seankreynolds/status/1272929077968515072  :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 16, 2020, 10:45:20 PM
CHOP lost territory... next time this happens they need to salt all the community gardens so that it's less valuable to invading troops... these are just basic tactics here.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 16, 2020, 10:50:15 PM
https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1273050496119513089
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: naff on June 16, 2020, 11:43:06 PM
there it is d o c u m e n t a r y   e v i d e n c e

 :brain
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: tiesto on June 16, 2020, 11:50:57 PM
Jeff Sessions has to be the most emasculated politician of the generation, still caping for Trump after Trump completely denigrating him in public for 2 years and making sure to endorse whoever is running against him

Ted Cruz has to be up there, too.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on June 17, 2020, 12:49:35 AM
https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a32870657/remove-statue-science/
Quote
How to Topple a Statue Using Science
Bring that sucker down without anyone getting hurt.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 17, 2020, 01:10:36 AM
https://twitter.com/echochlo/status/1273099323325153285

:dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: MMaRsu on June 17, 2020, 12:01:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9LW7CmAYL4

Cops are being fired for stopping other cops chokeholding folks
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 17, 2020, 01:08:53 PM
https://twitter.com/echochlo/status/1273099323325153285

:dead
This is absolutely perfect  :dice
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: MMaRsu on June 17, 2020, 01:33:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6Q1qqMp5_o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0EHWgR6yVU
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 17, 2020, 02:19:58 PM
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/edmonton-officer-charged-after-indigenous-man-violently-kneed-during-arrest-1.5614393?cmp=rss
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: MMaRsu on June 17, 2020, 02:41:04 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/BrianJSmith22/status/1272859525872259078
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: toku on June 17, 2020, 02:50:48 PM
https://twitter.com/echochlo/status/1273099323325153285
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 17, 2020, 03:57:18 PM
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1273343853983141890
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: MMaRsu on June 17, 2020, 03:58:34 PM
Death Penalty is for middle eastern countries who are still stuck in the Middle ages.

But ok. Glad he is getting charged.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 17, 2020, 05:26:26 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/17/rayshard-brooks-shooting-police-officer-cover-up-accusations-garrett-rolfe
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: MMaRsu on June 17, 2020, 07:46:18 PM
Pff the more I see of this type of shit the more I feel for people in the US.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9SZlypyK-4
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 17, 2020, 08:09:42 PM
https://youtu.be/bRzRMv_UDKY
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 17, 2020, 08:11:37 PM
Pff the more I see of this type of shit the more I feel for people in the US.

https://youtu.be/68AYHU93BqM
https://youtu.be/a38kJ57m6FQ
 https://youtu.be/y-Lj0DF-_CA
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 17, 2020, 08:53:02 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/haz5fn/a_lone_young_woman_protests_with_a_blm_sign_while/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: MMaRsu on June 17, 2020, 08:53:29 PM
I still don't see Black pete as racist because I don't think it's a caricature of black people at all.

The Pete's are the coolest thing about the holiday but w/e.

But fuck the cops beating on women, choking people. That shit is not cool. Not saying it never happens here (as demonstrated above) but in way lesser degree.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 17, 2020, 09:54:56 PM
https://twitter.com/Sifill_LDF/status/1273429387308826624

ATL cops trying to blue flu their way to respectability...
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 17, 2020, 10:05:57 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/haz5fn/a_lone_young_woman_protests_with_a_blm_sign_while/

Buncha white trash meth-heads.  :beli
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 17, 2020, 10:09:20 PM
 :shaq
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 18, 2020, 12:30:47 AM
https://twitter.com/marianne4prez/status/1214164671877517313
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on June 18, 2020, 01:14:17 AM
https://twitter.com/marianne4prez/status/1214164671877517313

Daily eruptions  :noah
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 18, 2020, 04:05:25 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p75WsrAw7U
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 18, 2020, 06:15:00 AM
The cops in Amsterdam are fucked it's hard to get all the stoners under control. There's a lot of people who end up in a state of psychosis and don't even remember what they did the next day.
They have to arrest thots and English hooligans the same way.  :doge

They usually try a more chill approach to deescalate the situation and use violence as a last resort. Crowd control is often where things get messy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1NB8P3TrTs

Murder by police is incredibly rare. I recall 1 case when they were called to a shooting and a kid in an abandoned parking lot pointed what they thought was a gun at them and they shot him by accident.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: samir on June 18, 2020, 06:31:11 AM
The Dutch police has something they call "Slaa en Piet" (Whack-a-Piet). They're a mean bunch.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 18, 2020, 07:18:04 AM
#riptacobell is trending after a Taco Bell employee was fired for wearing a BLM mask and "bringing politics into the building."

https://twitter.com/elijahdaniel/status/1273563336148312064
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 18, 2020, 07:19:15 AM
These dumb thots always go viral  :lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za4TyUsqUwc
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 18, 2020, 07:24:52 AM
Excellent job by the boys in zwarte :tocry
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 18, 2020, 07:35:33 AM
A wild cop appears
Thot uses push it is not very effective
Cop uses help
Thot uses punch
Thot missed
Cop uses slap
Oh no thot has fainted

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4k8L-5e0Cw
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 18, 2020, 08:07:05 AM
Some real Dutch directness there :titus
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 18, 2020, 08:41:13 AM
https://twitter.com/HollaBlackGirl/status/1273574908467929089

RIP to the Bire.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 18, 2020, 08:50:43 AM
https://youtu.be/tfJPTf4eQ5c
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on June 18, 2020, 08:53:30 AM
OJ :rofl
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 18, 2020, 09:42:08 AM
fuck the queen

:piss :gbcry :piss2
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 18, 2020, 11:06:25 AM
:dead it's st Michael trampling on Satan! It's not racist like zwarte piet

https://twitter.com/wayne_reid79/status/1273391715546804225

The replies sure are a wild ride of people whipping themselves up in a righteous frenzy.  :lol

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 18, 2020, 11:11:23 AM
https://twitter.com/redsoct1974/status/1273601788072132609

https://twitter.com/denimeyer/status/1273631449007046656

Iam going to pretend that these are all bots to maintain my belief in basic human intellect.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 18, 2020, 11:12:48 AM
I’m sorry, did nintex just say the Dutch police have to be violent because.... stoners?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 18, 2020, 11:44:43 AM
I’m sorry, did nintex just say the Dutch police have to be violent because.... stoners?
In Amsterdam yes.

When you exit the train to Amsterdam you already smell the narcotics.
You know that distinct smell when someone is smoking weed?

Every inch of Amsterdam smells like that.
Whenever I go to Amsterdam the police is always trying to get some poor sob in a psychosis under control or an ambulance is trying to save some poor thot from her overdose.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 18, 2020, 11:47:11 AM
nintex gritting his teeth, shedding manly tears thinking about the thots who have tragically overdosed on weed
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 18, 2020, 12:07:12 PM
Weed psychosis, huh?
(https://media.tenor.com/images/ae5ae70674472fdd2841667c2b0aec5c/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 18, 2020, 12:10:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRfluaMKoOY

I thought amsterdam cops were like this :tocry
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 18, 2020, 12:12:13 PM
Weed psychosis, huh?
(https://media.tenor.com/images/ae5ae70674472fdd2841667c2b0aec5c/tenor.gif)

cannabis psychosis is pretty well documented
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 18, 2020, 12:28:21 PM
Only cure? Dutch directness nightstick.jpeg

What uh, all drugs they let you have in Amsterdam, anyway?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 18, 2020, 12:29:09 PM
Posting about reefer madness :heh
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 18, 2020, 12:42:26 PM
Amsterdam is known as 'Pretpark Amsterdam' or 'Themepark Amsterdam'.
Because it's basically just a bunch of tourists and students getting hammered and fucking around (sometimes literally) until they get in trouble with the police.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: MMaRsu on June 18, 2020, 12:45:58 PM
I’m sorry, did nintex just say the Dutch police have to be violent because.... stoners?
In Amsterdam yes.

When you exit the train to Amsterdam you already smell the narcotics.
You know that distinct smell when someone is smoking weed?

Every inch of Amsterdam smells like that.
Whenever I go to Amsterdam the police is always trying to get some poor sob in a psychosis under control or an ambulance is trying to save some poor thot from her overdose.

Lmao are u nuts?  :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: MMaRsu on June 18, 2020, 12:46:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1608mKM8uY
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 18, 2020, 01:44:29 PM
https://decaturish.com/2020/06/atlanta-police-walkout-following-murder-charge-against-officer-who-shot-rayshard-brooks/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 18, 2020, 01:49:54 PM
reefer madness.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on June 18, 2020, 01:57:57 PM
I’m sorry, did nintex just say the Dutch police have to be violent because.... stoners?
In Amsterdam yes.

When you exit the train to Amsterdam you already smell the narcotics.
You know that distinct smell when someone is smoking weed?

Every inch of Amsterdam smells like that.
Whenever I go to Amsterdam the police is always trying to get some poor sob in a psychosis under control or an ambulance is trying to save some poor thot from her overdose.


An odor of narcotics is not detectable to humans.   What you're smelling is pussy.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 18, 2020, 02:06:21 PM
I’m sorry, did nintex just say the Dutch police have to be violent because.... stoners?
In Amsterdam yes.

When you exit the train to Amsterdam you already smell the narcotics.
You know that distinct smell when someone is smoking weed?

Every inch of Amsterdam smells like that.
Whenever I go to Amsterdam the police is always trying to get some poor sob in a psychosis under control or an ambulance is trying to save some poor thot from her overdose.


An odor of narcotics is not detectable to humans.   What you're smelling is pussy.

Breaking Bad taught me that you can smell meth.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on June 18, 2020, 02:30:15 PM
I’m sorry, did nintex just say the Dutch police have to be violent because.... stoners?
In Amsterdam yes.

When you exit the train to Amsterdam you already smell the narcotics.
You know that distinct smell when someone is smoking weed?

Every inch of Amsterdam smells like that.
Whenever I go to Amsterdam the police is always trying to get some poor sob in a psychosis under control or an ambulance is trying to save some poor thot from her overdose.


An odor of narcotics is not detectable to humans.   What you're smelling is pussy.

Breaking Bad taught me that you can smell meth.

But meth isn't a narcotic.  Narcotics are a specific class of drugs.  It's not just a synonym for "drugs"

 :ufup
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 18, 2020, 02:35:02 PM
I’m sorry, did nintex just say the Dutch police have to be violent because.... stoners?
In Amsterdam yes.

When you exit the train to Amsterdam you already smell the narcotics.
You know that distinct smell when someone is smoking weed?

Every inch of Amsterdam smells like that.
Whenever I go to Amsterdam the police is always trying to get some poor sob in a psychosis under control or an ambulance is trying to save some poor thot from her overdose.


An odor of narcotics is not detectable to humans.   What you're smelling is pussy.

Breaking Bad taught me that you can smell meth.

But meth isn't a narcotic.  Narcotics are a specific class of drugs.  It's not just a synonym for "drugs"

 :ufup

What are you a lawyer? Narc.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on June 18, 2020, 02:35:50 PM
listen here you lil bitch
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 18, 2020, 02:44:39 PM
I’m sorry, did nintex just say the Dutch police have to be violent because.... stoners?
In Amsterdam yes.

When you exit the train to Amsterdam you already smell the narcotics.
You know that distinct smell when someone is smoking weed?

Every inch of Amsterdam smells like that.
Whenever I go to Amsterdam the police is always trying to get some poor sob in a psychosis under control or an ambulance is trying to save some poor thot from her overdose.

(https://i.imgur.com/HwiS8ht.gif)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 18, 2020, 03:40:55 PM
https://twitter.com/itsTomokocchi/status/1267850864099766274

https://twitter.com/itsTomokocchi/status/1267882520735080453

we back  :rejoice
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 18, 2020, 03:44:16 PM
Those tweets were from when Taco Bell was cancelled two weeks ago, not from when they were cancelled today. Get your cancellations straight.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on June 18, 2020, 04:26:15 PM
https://twitter.com/ShawnGui_/status/1273603987845988352


(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNDg3NWJmMmUtZDM2MC00ZTBlLTg0ZTAtYjk1ZjJjOTUwZjk3L2ltYWdlXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNzc5MjA3OA@@._V1_.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 18, 2020, 04:41:36 PM
whats a CHOP ?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: MMaRsu on June 18, 2020, 04:43:29 PM
whats a CHOP ?

https://youtu.be/4nRM6n7aAbE
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 18, 2020, 04:44:09 PM
Capital Hill Overnight Party
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Post by: Propagandhim on June 18, 2020, 04:44:21 PM
Capital Hill Occupied Protest...just another name for Chaz
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Post by: team filler on June 18, 2020, 06:17:03 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/IjpOjK9.jpg)

#solidaritea   :kermit
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Post by: Tripon on June 18, 2020, 08:37:28 PM
https://twitter.com/wsbtv/status/1273648327402323974
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Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 18, 2020, 09:24:00 PM
https://apnews.com/7267abcb991ec5210f85aa03eb7ed433
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Post by: thisismyusername on June 18, 2020, 09:29:45 PM
https://twitter.com/wsbtv/status/1273648327402323974

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/401/966/070.jpg)

A whole $500. Truly they are blessed.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on June 18, 2020, 10:16:44 PM
It's not worthless.

It's worth $500.
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Post by: Nintex on June 19, 2020, 07:28:13 AM
https://twitter.com/ByMikeBaker/status/1273870258676264962 (https://twitter.com/ByMikeBaker/status/1273870258676264962)

absolute madness
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Post by: Ghoul on June 19, 2020, 08:09:41 AM
why is that video so dark?
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Post by: Nintex on June 19, 2020, 08:42:36 AM
Who gives a shit, it's just a building
(https://brewminate.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/010518-57-Library-Alexandria.jpeg)

Who gives a shit, they're just statues
(https://www.wahdatnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Bamyan-6-400x208.jpg)
(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/99a0ef98d88292222a12b4fb7debeadabdcff626/c=0-0-1659-1247/local/-/media/2016/05/11/PAGroup/YorkDailyRecord/635985547679785011-4oldsbuddhaheifei966.jpg?width=540&height=405&fit=crop)

Who gives a shit, they're just books
(https://www-tc.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/media/canonical_images/feature/goebbels_books_canonical.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 19, 2020, 08:46:18 AM
:what
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Post by: BisMarckie on June 19, 2020, 08:51:03 AM
You do realize the difference between a state burning books that they deemed degenerate or some randos burning their copies of Harry Potter because of Rowling‘s tweets?
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Post by: BisMarckie on June 19, 2020, 08:53:49 AM
I am just glad that woke nintex is dead and buried and things are back to normal.
Title: this is when you use it
Post by: Mandark on June 19, 2020, 08:59:31 AM
 :kermit
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Post by: ToxicAdam on June 19, 2020, 09:06:09 AM
You mock him, but that was THE statue of George Washington of Portland. People all over the country made their annual pilgrimage to pay respects to that particular statue.

There is no other way in this country to honor George.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_memorials_to_George_Washington
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Post by: ToxicAdam on June 19, 2020, 09:08:45 AM
Speaking of ...

“We’ve heard the concerns of many people who have been hurt or offended by the team’s previous name, and I’m happy to say we’ve now rectified the situation once and for all,” said franchise owner Dan Snyder, adding that "Washington Redskins” will be replaced with “D.C. Redskins” on all team logos, uniforms, and apparel. “It was a difficult decision—and one that, frankly, I’m a little embarrassed took me so long to make."

https://sports.theonion.com/washington-redskins-change-their-name-to-the-d-c-redsk-1819575691
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Post by: Mandark on June 19, 2020, 09:10:31 AM
You mock him, but that was THE statue of George Washington of Portland. People all over the country made their annual pilgrimage to pay respects to that particular statue.

There is no other way in this country to honor George.

I wish I could comment but now that the statue isn't there I no longer know who George Washington is.

I tried to look him up in a history book, but the text on the page was fading away, like the picture of Marty's parents in Back to the Future.  :'(
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Post by: BisMarckie on June 19, 2020, 09:13:01 AM
There is a point in bemoaning the loss of a building or work of art that a culture deemed important like Notre Dame in Paris for example, but this statue  is as close to mass produced as you gonna get with statues.
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Post by: headwalk on June 19, 2020, 09:38:06 AM
250 years too late.

:gbcry :gbcry :gbcry :gbcry

'ave it you traitorous slag.
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Post by: Rufus on June 19, 2020, 11:30:59 AM
top 10 book burnings
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Post by: toku on June 19, 2020, 11:40:26 AM
nintex gotta go
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Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 19, 2020, 11:41:03 AM
https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/g5pyqy/toronto-cop-who-has-been-paid-dollar1-million-on-suspension-nears-legal-decision?utm_source=reddit.com
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Post by: Great Rumbler on June 19, 2020, 01:37:11 PM
Happy juneteenth everyone. Not to be controversial here or anything but slavery is... Bad.

So bad that it gets a big B.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on June 19, 2020, 01:59:21 PM
Happy juneteenth everyone. Not to be controversial here or anything but slavery is... Bad.

I didn’t know we had Fortune 500 ceos on here.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 19, 2020, 02:12:13 PM
It's a slippery slope. If we allow statues to be destroyed it won't be long before statues that actually matter are demolished. Like for example the Washington monument, destroyed because it is the phallus symbol of capitalism.

We already went from: "He's just a slave trader lmao" to: "It's just Churchill and Washington lmao"

I was against vandalizing the beautiful metro of Ukraine by removing communist art and I'm against taking down other pieces of art.
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Post by: Steve Contra on June 19, 2020, 02:45:32 PM
Nintex about to start bemoaning the loss of Saddam statues
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Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 19, 2020, 02:56:26 PM
Well, he was against vandalizing the beautiful metro of Ukraine by removing communist art and he is against taking down other pieces of art.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: headwalk on June 19, 2020, 03:05:53 PM
to be fair nintex probably has the majority opinion on this statue shit and you're piling on him like a REEE thread.

the bore is one of the few places left on my radar where i feel like you can have an opinion on some shit and as long as it isn't mad wack or just flat hilarious you won't get family style fucking from the rest of the board.
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Post by: Mandark on June 19, 2020, 03:06:19 PM
wah wah wah
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 19, 2020, 03:08:08 PM
https://twitter.com/MilwaukeePolice/status/875458418907074560?s

check the comments for a suprise
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 19, 2020, 03:10:02 PM
Nintex about to start bemoaning the loss of Saddam statues
Well taking down that statue did not really set about a great turn of events now did it?  ;)
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Post by: Mandark on June 19, 2020, 03:14:45 PM
to be fair nintex probably has the majority opinion on this statue shit and you're piling on him like a REEE thread.

the bore is one of the few places left on my radar where i feel like you can have an opinion on some shit and as long as it isn't mad wack or just flat hilarious you won't get family style fucking from the rest of the board.

his posts were really dumb and we're enjoying a laugh
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Post by: shosta on June 19, 2020, 03:15:44 PM
nintex pile-ons are a bore tradition at this point
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 19, 2020, 03:43:23 PM
On one hand, removing statues and corporate logos is the kind of fake progress that America thrives on. It does nothing to really change the systemic racism that allowed those things to exist in the first place.  So, if you came at it from that angle, I would understand your derision of it.

On the other hand, there needs to be a reckoning in America. We've deified our past in an effort to give a young country a sense of shared history so we wouldn't fray into 10 different parts during crisis. That's why all these problematic statues, logos, flags, practices were allowed to exist for so long. Keep this leaky ship afloat. But that deification is now working against us from allowing us to change into a modern society. It's become a quicksand that keeps sucking us back under.

So maybe pushing over a Washington statue and being okay with it is a baby step in ending those mental shackles.

 
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Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 19, 2020, 03:53:00 PM
I bet FDR is up in heaven now regretting that he didn't publicly use his wheelchair more cause wheelchair statues would have 4 points of contact to the base. 
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Unless it was a radical statue of him popping a wheelie. 
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Post by: Mandark on June 19, 2020, 03:58:44 PM
The FDR Memorial in DC has him sitting and it's got a statue of his little dog right by it. Making it both physically and emotionally difficult to attack.
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Post by: ToxicAdam on June 19, 2020, 04:02:27 PM
Well most of the Confederate monuments around the country came years after the Civil War, many 100 years later around the time of the Civil Rights and Voting acts. I'm sure that's unrelated, though. Founding Fathers statues coming down (and I think literally 2 have been pulled down) won't pick up steam except for the particularly bad ones.



Quote
Eventually they started to build [Confederate] monuments,” he says. “The vast majority of them were built between the 1890s and 1950s, which matches up exactly with the era of Jim Crow segregation.” According to the Southern Poverty Law Center’s research, the biggest spike was between 1900 and the 1920s.
https://www.history.com/news/how-the-u-s-got-so-many-confederate-monuments

There were many more memorials in the wake of the civil war (1870-1890), but those were to commemorate the Confederates that died in the war and not individual leaders.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: MMaRsu on June 19, 2020, 04:40:32 PM
https://twitter.com/MilwaukeePolice/status/875458418907074560?s

check the comments for a suprise

JFC  :snoop :stahp
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 19, 2020, 05:51:27 PM
these people are deplorables  :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 19, 2020, 05:53:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSyr7HSGGQg
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 19, 2020, 06:14:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgItkJCm09c
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 19, 2020, 06:32:12 PM
https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/06/19/lasd-deputies-shoot-kill-security-guard-gardena-andres-guardado/
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Post by: Nintex on June 19, 2020, 06:35:21 PM
Today there was a protest battle in Hoorn. The police protected the statue of Jan Pieterszoon Coen, Governor-General of the Dutch East Indies
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ea5l2tAWAAECZmb?format=jpg)

Quote
Despair not, spare your enemies not, for God is with us - Jan Pieterszoon Coen

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ea55XjoXYAAAcYh?format=jpg)

In any case the whole protest movement seems to have fizzled out here in the Netherlands.
Crowds are smaller, only the more aggressive types remain.
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Post by: Don Rumata on June 19, 2020, 06:43:43 PM
I stand with Nintex.
The Bore trying to tear down his statue, will have to pass through me.  :gun
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Post by: team filler on June 19, 2020, 06:47:06 PM
zwarte piets  for black lives matter!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 19, 2020, 06:52:59 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/gmLIDT9.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/lF2TjY0.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 19, 2020, 07:30:33 PM
https://lawandcrime.com/george-floyd-death/colorados-progressive-governor-and-legislature-just-ended-qualified-immunity-for-police-officers/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: chronovore on June 19, 2020, 08:08:35 PM
whats a CHOP ?

Cannibalistic Humanoid… Overground Personages?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 19, 2020, 08:44:45 PM
I just watched a video describing the experiences of the first Japanese visitors to the US in 1860 and it made me think of this thread.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvPxCuIspWs
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The Japanese guy asked his hosts where the family of George Washington lived, and the hosts were basically like "Eh, who cares." :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 19, 2020, 11:57:49 PM
https://twitter.com/LeighTauss/status/1274149217276170240

:obama
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Post by: Transhuman on June 20, 2020, 12:29:59 AM
They should melt it down and make a Christian Fleetwood statue.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 20, 2020, 02:05:42 AM
https://twitter.com/LeighTauss/status/1274149217276170240

:obama

This is dumb shit.

Take that statue to the statehouse.  That's a statement.

These are just fucking people who are bored.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 20, 2020, 08:13:56 AM
https://twitter.com/shane_bauer/status/1274182715068133377 (https://twitter.com/shane_bauer/status/1274182715068133377)

Guess it's just another slave owner right?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 20, 2020, 08:29:00 AM
Nintex, you need to start a Statue Lives Matter movement. I’ll be your first member.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Coffee Dog on June 20, 2020, 08:35:49 AM
There is nothing wrong with collectively declaring war on statues.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 20, 2020, 09:03:31 AM
https://twitter.com/LewisForMN/status/1274082386066706432

checkmate, libs
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Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 20, 2020, 09:51:56 AM
(https://frinkiac.com/video/S07E23/lsFPshjEqvAvi4ofaffpMBtveJI=.gif)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 20, 2020, 09:52:35 AM
https://twitter.com/LewisForMN/status/1274082386066706432

checkmate, libs

Cops would call animal control who would humanely capture the bear.

I'm stating the obvious, I know.

I just made myself sad.
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Post by: ToxicAdam on June 20, 2020, 09:55:32 AM
That guy is a US representative in Congress (or was). :(
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Post by: Tuckers Law on June 20, 2020, 12:07:55 PM
https://twitter.com/LewisForMN/status/1274082386066706432

checkmate, libs

Cops would call animal control who would humanely capture the bear.

I'm stating the obvious, I know.

I just made myself sad.
Either that or they’d gun him down instantly for being a bear while black.
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Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 20, 2020, 12:12:22 PM
Isn’t that why cops carry bear spray? :smug
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Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 20, 2020, 02:04:46 PM
(https://preview.redd.it/4e2e53i182651.png?width=1024&auto=webp&s=1384cdebbd57ae46e1d4b15b8adf4ad5c3b868bc)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 20, 2020, 02:10:30 PM
(https://preview.redd.it/4e2e53i182651.png?width=1024&auto=webp&s=1384cdebbd57ae46e1d4b15b8adf4ad5c3b868bc)

doesn't make a lot of sense, because - to riff on a bill hicks bit - are christians super in favour of crucifixion?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 20, 2020, 02:12:24 PM
FACT CHECK: There are multiple depictions of Satan in pretty much every catholic church. :karen
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: toku on June 20, 2020, 02:18:37 PM
satan was the good guy
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Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 20, 2020, 02:34:46 PM
doesn't make a lot of sense, because - to riff on a bill hicks bit - are christians super in favour of crucifixion?
no, but they’re into self-sacrifice, which is the point of crucifixes. what’s the point of a confederate monument?

FACT CHECK: There are multiple depictions of Satan in pretty much every catholic church. :karen
bis, and i mean this as gently as possible, you wouldnt happen to hail from some part of the former DDR, would you?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 20, 2020, 03:00:32 PM
doesn't make a lot of sense, because - to riff on a bill hicks bit - are christians super in favour of crucifixion?
no, but they’re into self-sacrifice, which is the point of crucifixes. what’s the point of a confederate monument?


I think it's just as likely to be a commemoration of an important event. Commemoration does not imply endorsement.
There are vast swathes of religious art depicting horrific acts, not to celebrate but to commemorate, just as there are vast numbers of secular artworks intended to do the same thing.

Picasso didn't paint Guernica because he thought it was fucking sweet and secretly wished for more of that kind of thing.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 20, 2020, 03:03:11 PM
british guy trying to explain to americans what the confederate statues are for when their purpose and history is well documented...
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 20, 2020, 03:06:43 PM
A timeline of the genesis of the Confederate sites shows two notable spikes. One comes around the turn of the 20th century, just after Plessy v. Ferguson, and just as many Southern states were establishing repressive race laws. The second runs from the mid-1950s to the mid-1960s—the peak of the civil-rights movement. In other words, the erection of Confederate monuments has been a way to perform cultural resistance to black equality. (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/04/the-stubborn-persistence-of-confederate-monuments/479751/)

(https://i.imgur.com/lo3bWm2.png)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 20, 2020, 03:08:12 PM
all those confederate statues going up in schools exactly when desegregation was an issue... obviously those statues were meant to educate students about the horrors of the confederacy :hitler
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 20, 2020, 03:09:05 PM
british guy trying to explain to americans what the confederate statues are for when their purpose and history is well documented...

I'm saying that that twitter gotcha about religious symbolism is weak AF :idont
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on June 20, 2020, 03:09:56 PM
bis, and i mean this as gently as possible, you wouldnt happen to hail from some part of the former DDR, would you?

(https://external-preview.redd.it/6suPhWR-Ojv4CQ_RfDHgAiAuMNlNcsyJISuFARH9yNY.gif?width=250&height=130.890052356&s=7f4c87341254c53d963e7638f50eac81d5d76bb5)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 20, 2020, 03:11:32 PM
I'm saying that that twitter gotcha about religious symbolism is weak AF :idont
Well what I'm saying is that they ARE endorsements, man. They are put there to make black men afraid. To remind white men that they are God's race. And to reject Northern liberalism.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 20, 2020, 03:12:22 PM
https://twitter.com/LewisForMN/status/1274082386066706432

checkmate, libs

Didn't Republicans want to arm schools a while back in case of bear attacks? Time to pull yourself up by your bootstraps and practice what you preach.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 20, 2020, 03:22:59 PM
Well what I'm saying is that they ARE endorsements, man. They are put there to make black men afraid. To remind white men that they are God's race. And to reject Northern liberalism.

And if I ever go to bat for confederacy monuments - which, AFAIK, given the length of time the confederacy memorialised existed for is like a monument to George Bush Srs presidency - you can remind me of that.

But my pushback is the - frankly idiotic - concept that commemoration equals endorsement espoused in that tweet.
Which over here culminates in people tagging BLM on the fucking cenotaph, a monument literally commemorating that black (and other) lives do indeed matter.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 20, 2020, 03:31:43 PM
You are completely missing the tweet.  It is not saying all commemoration equals endorsement.  In the context of the current Church and what they choose to depict in their art, and their offense at Satanists putting up statues in public buildings (which is really what defines what a statue of satan means now culturally), if they started putting up statues of satan, there would be questions about their intent.  Obviously, if the church always had statues of satan which historically have the intent of not endorsing him, this would not make sense, but that's not the thought experiment in the tweet. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 20, 2020, 03:35:49 PM
Of public statues depicting specific historical figures, how many of them were not implicit or explicit endorsements of those figures when they were built?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 20, 2020, 03:43:52 PM
I'm canceling Europe
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 20, 2020, 03:44:17 PM
You are completely missing the tweet.  It is not saying all commemoration equals endorsement.  In the context of the current Church and what they choose to depict in their art, and their offense at Satanists putting up statues in public buildings (which is really what defines what a statue of satan means now culturally), if they started putting up statues of satan, there would be questions about their intent.  Obviously, if the church always had statues of satan which historically have the intent of not endorsing him, this would not make sense, but that's not the thought experiment in the tweet.

yeah; it fails on that premise, because there are depictions of satan in churches in statues, stained glass windows, in icons, and in paintings, and the most commonly depicted christian symbol represents a bad thing happening.
Talking about people not putting up statues of satan in new churches is kind of irrelevant - are people putting up confederate statues in new government buildings?

Of public statues depicting specific historical figures, how many of them were not implicit or explicit endorsements of those figures when they were built?

All statues are commemorative, I don't believe all statues are celebratory, given they tend to be of humans who are inherently multi dimensional and flawed, and a recognition of someones achievement might not coincide with a belief in that person as a person.
Most political statues are automatically going to have people of the opposed party thinking someone from their party deserved it more, at the very least.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 20, 2020, 03:47:47 PM
yeah; it fails on that premise, because there are depictions of satan in churches in statues, stained glass windows, in icons, and in paintings, and the most commonly depicted christian symbol represents a bad thing happening.
Talking about people not putting up statues of satan in new churches is kind of irrelevant - are people putting up confederate statues in new government buildings?

Lots of depictions of Satan that are put in recognizable context to remind people he's a dick.

How much Christian iconography is there of Satan looking noble and benevolent? How many statues of Satan by himself similar to statues of Jesus?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 20, 2020, 03:51:56 PM
yeah; it fails on that premise, because there are depictions of satan in churches in statues, stained glass windows, in icons, and in paintings, and the most commonly depicted christian symbol represents a bad thing happening.

'but if you put up a bunch of statues of him'

They are not talking about old depictions of him in stain glass, they are talking about a novel change in depiction, and as far as I know,, statues of just satan are not really something churchs have.  Also, again, you are ignoring what a statue of satan means in current social context.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 20, 2020, 03:52:08 PM
Of public statues depicting specific historical figures, how many of them were not implicit or explicit endorsements of those figures when they were built?

All statues are commemorative, I don't believe all statues are celebratory, given they tend to be of humans who are inherently multi dimensional and flawed, and a recognition of someones achievement might not coincide with a belief in that person as a person.
Most political statues are automatically going to have people of the opposed party thinking someone from their party deserved it more, at the very least.

okay now answer the actual question
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 20, 2020, 03:56:14 PM
all statues are shit and only one is worth preserving :trumps

(https://i.imgur.com/aFIuPwA.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 20, 2020, 03:57:33 PM
Of public statues depicting specific historical figures, how many of them are were not implicit or explicit endorsements of those figures when they were built?
i remember a talk from around charlottesville during the last bout of confederate memorial stock-taking by some septuagenarian professor. it was otherwise perfectly good, but at the end he claimed that, back in his day, people didn’t view statues as ‘endorsements’, or whatever, they viewed them as occasions for nuanced discussion of historical events and whatnot. which is obv unutterably stupid; whatever the equivalent of terminal poster’s brain is for silent generation types, he had it.

@sage, whether or not memorials can be purely commemorative is beyond the point here. that isn’t the effect a statue of satan would have in a church (and isn’t the point the depictions of satan that are in churches have), it isn’t the point of depictions of christ’s passion. it definitely isn’t the effect of public confederate monuments, which are deliberately intended to stoke feelings of white resentment and grievance, fitting into a greater lost cause narrative.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 20, 2020, 04:01:24 PM

'but if you put up a bunch of statues of him'

They are not talking about old depictions of him in stain glass, they are talking about a novel change in depiction, and as far as I know,, statues of just satan are not really something churchs have.  Also, again, you are ignoring what a statue of satan means in current social context.

No, I'm not defending confeserate statues, but that twitter argument is weak as fuck, because there are a bunch of depictions in satan in old churches and modern christians don't really give a fuck about trying to tear them down because its 'bad optics' to todays church values, because those depictions all have artistic, cultural or historical value.

It's a crazy flawed metaphor; I'm not defending the thing its a metaphor for by pointing out the obvious flaws in the metaphor chosen.

Of public statues depicting specific historical figures, how many of them were not implicit or explicit endorsements of those figures when they were built?

All statues are commemorative, I don't believe all statues are celebratory, given they tend to be of humans who are inherently multi dimensional and flawed, and a recognition of someones achievement might not coincide with a belief in that person as a person.
Most political statues are automatically going to have people of the opposed party thinking someone from their party deserved it more, at the very least.

okay now answer the actual question

Disraeli and Churchill were both massive arseholes that were intensely disliked by many of their peers on a personal level and still got statues.
I think Margaret Thatcher was an evil piece of shit that nearly ruined the country, but still has a valid claim to a statue as the first female prime minister.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 20, 2020, 04:02:43 PM
all statues are shit and only one is worth preserving :trumps

(https://i.imgur.com/aFIuPwA.jpg)

i dont know man. you should check out vigeland park in oslo. i lived close to that and i feel like a lot of amazing people were celebrated with statues there

(https://i.imgur.com/592B0l8.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/3m6RT5o.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/zRszNd9.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 20, 2020, 04:05:53 PM
Disraeli and Churchill were both massive arseholes that were intensely disliked by many of their peers on a personal level and still got statues.

In the current set of controversies around public statues, I don't think how well the subjects got along with their colleagues is really central.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 20, 2020, 04:05:59 PM
on a more serious note, the BLM protest in the UK today didnt end well.


 :nsfw
https://twitter.com/shoibarbi/status/1274420626435031040
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 20, 2020, 04:06:45 PM
all statues are shit and only one is worth preserving :trumps

(https://i.imgur.com/aFIuPwA.jpg)

i dont know man. you should check out vigeland park in oslo. i lived close to that and i feel like a lot of amazing people were celebrated with statues there

(https://i.imgur.com/592B0l8.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/3m6RT5o.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/zRszNd9.jpg)

 :gladbron
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 20, 2020, 04:07:17 PM
i remember a talk from around charlottesville during the last bout of confederate memorial stock-taking by some septuagenarian professor. it was otherwise perfectly good, but at the end he claimed that, back in his day, people didn’t view statues as ‘endorsements’, or whatever, they viewed them as occasions for nuanced discussion of historical events and whatnot. which is obv unutterably stupid; whatever the equivalent of terminal poster’s brain is for silent generation types, he had it.

I legitimately believe thats a valid argument, especially if you consider how recent things like widespread literacy are; historically, for a significant portion of the population pictorial representation was your history lesson. I don't know why the argument against seeing statues seems to have become one of seeing them solely through an idolatory lens?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 20, 2020, 04:08:14 PM

'but if you put up a bunch of statues of him'

They are not talking about old depictions of him in stain glass, they are talking about a novel change in depiction, and as far as I know,, statues of just satan are not really something churchs have.  Also, again, you are ignoring what a statue of satan means in current social context.

No, I'm not defending confeserate statues, but that twitter argument is weak as fuck, because there are a bunch of depictions in satan in old churches and modern christians don't really give a fuck about trying to tear them down because its 'bad optics' to todays church values, because those depictions all have artistic, cultural or historical value.

It's a crazy flawed metaphor; I'm not defending the thing its a metaphor for by pointing out the obvious flaws in the metaphor chosen.

Again, you are missing the point.  All depictions of satan are not the same.  Just because you have one does not make the other ok.  If I go to church and start putting up statues of satan that do not fit with historical depictions, people are going to ask about my intent for putting up the statues.  I doubt I could defend this by saying 'its just a statue of satan like that stain glass window'. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 20, 2020, 04:17:08 PM
thinking that the appropriate relation for a religious person to have towards religious art is value-neutral is maybe a little bit naive

the only reason we give a shit about commemorating events/people is because of the importance we attach to those events/people. even a moderate amount of the body politic checking all of their normative commitments at the door for the sake of disinterested ‘commemoration’ strikes me as impossible and undesirable. if youre worried about losing the occasion for historical reflection on the event/people in question, we still have classrooms and museums and we can bitch about the content of those reflections to our heart’s content on twitter, in the blogosphere, on the news, in books, or whatever. but installations on public property will never be conducive to the kind of detached reverence you’re looking for here
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 20, 2020, 04:18:18 PM

'but if you put up a bunch of statues of him'

They are not talking about old depictions of him in stain glass, they are talking about a novel change in depiction, and as far as I know,, statues of just satan are not really something churchs have.  Also, again, you are ignoring what a statue of satan means in current social context.

No, I'm not defending confeserate statues, but that twitter argument is weak as fuck, because there are a bunch of depictions in satan in old churches and modern christians don't really give a fuck about trying to tear them down because its 'bad optics' to todays church values, because those depictions all have artistic, cultural or historical value.

It's a crazy flawed metaphor; I'm not defending the thing its a metaphor for by pointing out the obvious flaws in the metaphor chosen.

Again, you are missing the point.  All depictions of satan are not the same.  Just because you have one does not make the other ok.  If I go to church and start putting up statues of satan that do not fit with historical depictions, people are going to ask about my intent for putting up the statues.  I doubt I could defend this by saying 'its just a statue of satan like that stain glass window'.

No, I get the point that tweet is trying to make.
The point he's actually making is if you go into a Christian church, you could say "Man, they fucking hate that jesus dude, look at all these images of him being tortured to death there are, they must really be into that shit. He must be the worst dude ever".

Its a bad analogy :idont
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 20, 2020, 04:18:37 PM
Disraeli and Churchill were both massive arseholes that were intensely disliked by many of their peers on a personal level and still got statues..

https://www.londonremembers.com/memorials/disraeli-statue

Quote
Unveiled exactly two years after his death, this statue was central to the foundation of the Primrose League, an organisation formed to promote Conservative principles. The primrose was, apparently, Disraeli's favourite flower - Victoria had sent a primrose wreath to his funeral. A group of Conservatives arranged that on the day of the statue's unveiling all their MPs would wear a primrose. The organisation became very popular, with a motto and badges and so forth; it had one million paid up members at its peak. Each year on the anniversary of his death primrose wreaths were placed at this statue. The League was formally wound up in 2004.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 20, 2020, 04:19:07 PM
(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/5048e660e4b0bd178ab35a57/1495620412974-B5B98GYPVGG4DON4VSTE/3815671-6581918764-12.jp.jpg?content-type=image%2Fjpeg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 20, 2020, 04:20:58 PM
Lol wtf this guy
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 20, 2020, 04:22:44 PM
You know the fancy Latin names they give to various logical fallacies? Ought to be one that means "argumentation by pretending to not grok obvious things."
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 20, 2020, 04:23:11 PM
the whole argument is disingenuous as fuck come on man be embarrassed for yourself
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 20, 2020, 04:24:10 PM

'but if you put up a bunch of statues of him'

They are not talking about old depictions of him in stain glass, they are talking about a novel change in depiction, and as far as I know,, statues of just satan are not really something churchs have.  Also, again, you are ignoring what a statue of satan means in current social context.

No, I'm not defending confeserate statues, but that twitter argument is weak as fuck, because there are a bunch of depictions in satan in old churches and modern christians don't really give a fuck about trying to tear them down because its 'bad optics' to todays church values, because those depictions all have artistic, cultural or historical value.

It's a crazy flawed metaphor; I'm not defending the thing its a metaphor for by pointing out the obvious flaws in the metaphor chosen.

Again, you are missing the point.  All depictions of satan are not the same.  Just because you have one does not make the other ok.  If I go to church and start putting up statues of satan that do not fit with historical depictions, people are going to ask about my intent for putting up the statues.  I doubt I could defend this by saying 'its just a statue of satan like that stain glass window'.

No, I get the point that tweet is trying to make.
The point he's actually making is if you go into a Christian church, you could say "Man, they fucking hate that jesus dude, look at all these images of him being tortured to death there are, they must really be into that shit. He must be the worst dude ever".

Its a bad analogy :idont
did j chrizzle own slavs or genocide india? :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 20, 2020, 04:30:24 PM
You know the fancy Latin names they give to various logical fallacies? Ought to be one that means "argumentation by pretending to not grok obvious things."

Its not really disingeuous to say that if the premise of your analogy is to remove all context and just report what you see as being what contemporary beliefs are, that christian symbolism removed of all context as per the thought experiment looks like celebrating the death of jesus is it?

The fact we all know that it doesnt say that is because of context.

If you guys think ita great analogy, you do you, but I think its pretty fucking bad for the reasons that I have stated - and, to reiterate, for, what, the third time? I am not endorsing the subject it is an analogy for by saying it is a poor analogy,
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 20, 2020, 04:31:43 PM
No analogy is perfect, but the one in the tweet is way better than your posts.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 20, 2020, 04:34:06 PM
The point he's actually making is if you go into a Christian church, you could say "Man, they fucking hate that jesus dude, look at all these images of him being tortured to death there are, they must really be into that shit. He must be the worst dude ever".
i genuinely have no idea how you read that from the tweet. the only important factors here are the dispositions of the people who make the depiction and the stance people for whom the work was intended take to the depiction. both of those groups are christian. the detached, ignorant observer plays no role here. this is actually a great example of how the normative commitments of the people who produce and the normative commitments of the people who consume art are indispensable in understanding the civic role of art

I don't know why the argument against seeing statues seems to have become one of seeing them solely through an idolatory lens?
because, throughout history, monument building has been practiced for the express purpose of pushing some agenda. thats really all there is to it
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Raist on June 20, 2020, 04:34:28 PM
No need to invoke good old Lucifer, the bible contains a metric fuckton of despicable shit :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 20, 2020, 04:39:10 PM
Bork better close this thread before the dunks start
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 20, 2020, 04:43:13 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/s8kLNej.jpg) ;)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 20, 2020, 04:45:41 PM
because, throughout history, monument building has been practiced for the express purpose of pushing some agenda. thats really all there is to it

I fundamentally disagree that monuments have 'agendas' outside of marking a piece of history.
Artists might, commissioning bodies might, audiences might, and all of those agendas might even be at odds with each other, but ultimately a monuments purpose is as a bookmark for history.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 20, 2020, 04:48:00 PM
With the way Brazil is going, we might see some rioters with pickup trucks take down Christ the Redeemer in 2020.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 20, 2020, 04:49:09 PM
:bow liberal truckers :bow2
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 20, 2020, 04:49:38 PM
because, throughout history, monument building has been practiced for the express purpose of pushing some agenda. thats really all there is to it

I fundamentally disagree that monuments have 'agendas' outside of marking a piece of history.
Artists might, commissioning bodies might, audiences might, and all of those agendas might even be at odds with each other, but ultimately a monuments purpose is as a bookmark for history.

I think we can all agree that inanimate objects don't have agendas, but the people relevent to the objects might. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 20, 2020, 04:51:51 PM
I fundamentally disagree that monuments have 'agendas' outside of marking a piece of history.
Artists might, commissioning bodies might, audiences might, and all of those agendas might even be at odds with each other, but ultimately a monuments purpose is as a bookmark for history.

So all the actual humans who are involved in creating, funding, and placing a statue may have an agenda, but those don't really matter and there's an actual, real purpose to the statue which exists independently of those people.

Sounds legit.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 20, 2020, 04:52:26 PM
ultimately a monuments purpose is as a bookmark for history.
why do we care about bookmarking history?

ill echo arvie here and say we’re all agreed that people are the ones with agendas
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 20, 2020, 05:15:39 PM
Seeing people try to defend Confederate monuments built in Texas in the 1950's is like  ::) yeah okay dude.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 20, 2020, 05:23:21 PM
bis, and i mean this as gently as possible, you wouldnt happen to hail from some part of the former DDR, would you?

Don’t read anything into obvious shitposts. :hmph

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Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 20, 2020, 05:27:17 PM
In his defense, he is not for confederate monuments, he is just upset with the analogy since if you strip all context from Christian iconism relevant to the anology, it is in fact illogical. 

By coincidence, stripping context from confederate iconism is a dog whistle for racists - but, as he has said, that's not what he is doing.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 20, 2020, 05:35:24 PM
[
I fundamentally disagree that monuments have 'agendas' outside of marking a piece of history.
Artists might, commissioning bodies might, audiences might, and all of those agendas might even be at odds with each other, but ultimately a monuments purpose is as a bookmark for history.

This is completely false. You can’t detach monuments from their intent. Why do you think monuments of Arminiu popped up all of a sudden after German unification in 1871?
It‘s completely myopic to detach monuments from their intent. There is an entire field of history dedicated to this very same thing.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on June 20, 2020, 05:41:46 PM
love to sculpt 12 foot tall stone effigies as a conversation starter
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 20, 2020, 05:47:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL5O_RbHhxI
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 20, 2020, 05:48:54 PM
love to sculpt 12 foot tall stone effigies as a conversation starter

They're just bookmarks so people don't forget.

That's why Staples Center doesn't just have statues of Jerry West, Shaq, Magic, etc. but also Kwame Brown and Smush Parker.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 20, 2020, 05:50:27 PM
We need to put up more Hitler statues so we don't forget about WWII.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 20, 2020, 05:50:41 PM
They better have a statue auf Kwame Brown, they used that stiff for the lopsided Pau Gasol trade which netted fraud Kobe two more rings :rage
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 20, 2020, 05:52:04 PM
We need to put up more Hitler statues so we don't forget about WWII.

That’s why there are still so many statues of Kaiser Wilhelm II. around :ohhh
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 20, 2020, 06:00:35 PM
Can‘t wait for the Bore sponsored monument of Evilore.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Coffee Dog on June 20, 2020, 06:00:36 PM
All statues are propoganda and we shouldn't build more. Just tear down the ones that piss people off over the years as they become
increasingly outdated.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 20, 2020, 06:10:30 PM
What if monuments are bookmarks for time travelers.   Like without them, they would have to start at the beginning and flip through the years, stopping every once in a while to ask locals the time.   

Obviously, this is not a perfect analogy because some books have indices. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 20, 2020, 06:19:14 PM
If you want to find groups in support of taking down statues and other historic artifacts and monuments
you end up at Lenin, the Nazi's, Mao, ISIS, the Taliban, Right Sector and John Bolton.

I suppose the idea isn't so radical
 :idont
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 20, 2020, 06:22:21 PM
If you want to find groups in support of taking down statues and other historic artifacts and monuments
you end up at Lenin, the Nazi's, Mao, ISIS, the Taliban, Right Sector and John Bolton.

oh shit that's deep

I wonder what sort of groups built statues
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 20, 2020, 06:25:09 PM
John Bolton and the Taliban?
The Taliban demolished the largest Buddha statues that were still preserved.
Bolton wanted the statues of Saddam toppled.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 20, 2020, 06:26:02 PM
John Bolton and the Taliban?

Before or after the US funded them? I feel that’s an important distinction to make before accusing John Bolton being out there smashing statues with his Taliban buddies.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 20, 2020, 06:28:58 PM
Lenin,

(https://www.deutschlandfunkkultur.de/media/thumbs/5/5d98193a0b5e8773c2e5692cccb3d240v1_max_635x357_b3535db83dc50e27c1bb1392364c95a2.jpg?key=a30cfa)

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 20, 2020, 06:32:15 PM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Colosse_de_Rhodes_%28Barclay%29.jpg/1024px-Colosse_de_Rhodes_%28Barclay%29.jpg)

More like Micropeen of Rhodes
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 20, 2020, 06:36:46 PM
Let's have a genocide it is every bit a human tradition as medicine is
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 20, 2020, 06:40:50 PM
Can’t believe that some people ( beyond the scope of this forum) don’t understand that statues have no inherent historical value. It‘s just kitsch built to rally people around an idea of a shared identity. There are some exceptions of course, but for most of them it’s like a McDonald‘s restaurant being demolished.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 20, 2020, 06:42:07 PM
I'm sure I can collect a mob big enough of people in support who would just mindlessly join mass murdering one group or another in the name of progress.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 20, 2020, 06:42:39 PM
nintex raises a good point

if the protesters were committing mass murder instead of knocking down some statues that would be bad, ergo knocking down some statues is bad
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 20, 2020, 06:43:21 PM
I'm sure I can collect a mob big enough of people in support who would just mindlessly join mass murdering one group or another in the name of progress.

motherfucker you don't have three friends you're not starting a cult
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Steve Contra on June 20, 2020, 06:43:56 PM
Man Nintex is still on this statue thing?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 20, 2020, 06:45:09 PM
Man Nintex is still on this statue thing?
is there a statue of limitations?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 20, 2020, 06:46:27 PM
As a good social democrat, I would prefer if there was a town hall meeting or some other plebiscite to decide over the fate of statues just as any form of public property, but I won’t lose any sleep over it.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 20, 2020, 06:48:52 PM
Bis are you German or French?  I keep wanting to throw jabs based on your nationality but I don't want to look foolish. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 20, 2020, 06:50:30 PM
Bis are you German or French?  I keep wanting to throw jabs based on your nationality but I don't want to look foolish.

Man, VomKriege really confused some people by using a German name as a French dude
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 20, 2020, 06:57:47 PM
I liked that you saw immediately that I was confusing you and Vom. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Oblivion on June 20, 2020, 07:18:21 PM
my favorite excuse that the chuds and chud-adjacent use for this confederate monument business is the whole "THE LEFT IS TRYING TO ERASE HISTORY" bit.


because if there's one thing leftists absolutely DON'T want to do, it's pointing out America's history of racism and oppression.  :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: OnlyRegret on June 20, 2020, 07:38:55 PM
confederate statues?
the ugly busts of failed civil war doers that started a shin-dingle over slaves?

atleast pick something aesthetic
like some motherfucker tryna take down this beauty outta have their lights turned off
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/Monument_de_la_Renaissance_africaine_%28cropped%29.JPG/800px-Monument_de_la_Renaissance_africaine_%28cropped%29.JPG)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 20, 2020, 08:03:41 PM
https://twitter.com/andraydomise/status/1274483770238869510

https://twitter.com/andraydomise/status/1274489824934846464

https://twitter.com/MxVivianWulf/status/1274490910676529154

https://twitter.com/CanadianJoke/status/1274490948186243072

 :kermit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on June 20, 2020, 08:13:01 PM
Zwarte Piet isn't institutionalised racism, nor is it "Christmas". It's actually a time honoured tradition that is tens of years old.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 21, 2020, 12:47:08 AM
https://twitter.com/HomelessnessSD/status/1274451699034320896

 8)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on June 21, 2020, 01:09:00 AM
We need to put up more Hitler statues so we don't forget about WWII.
You could make one with him opening his mouth, that doubles as a urinal.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on June 21, 2020, 04:03:14 AM
I didn't see any of this argument on that popular mechanics page about how to take down statues safely using physics.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on June 21, 2020, 04:07:09 AM
Some towns for Civil War monuments have old cannons instead of dudes. They should just have a cannon for the Georgia 45th or Virginia 9th or whatever rather than some fancy pants General who probably never even heard of the town let alone fought for it, plus then I'd be like you're wrecking a perfectly good cannon for when the state tries to come back after disestablishing itself peacefully!

 :jeb third way solutions :klob
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 21, 2020, 04:16:12 AM
if you outlaw statues, only outlaws will have statues
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on June 21, 2020, 04:34:18 AM
https://twitter.com/nhannahjones/status/1274351225492967424
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Raist on June 21, 2020, 05:53:47 AM
https://twitter.com/HomelessnessSD/status/1274451699034320896

 8)

The one person who showed up with rollerblades (around 0:11) probably got beat up at the end.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 21, 2020, 06:41:52 AM
https://twitter.com/HomelessnessSD/status/1274451699034320896

 8)

The one person who showed up with rollerblades (around 0:11) probably got beat up at the end.

deservedly beat up.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 21, 2020, 08:23:19 AM
premium lager rekt :tocry
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 21, 2020, 09:20:44 AM
https://twitter.com/HomelessnessSD/status/1274451699034320896

 8)


The one person who showed up with rollerblades (around 0:11) probably got beat up at the end.

I bet they didn't even take off the brakes.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 21, 2020, 10:20:04 AM
Protest for freedom in the Hague

https://twitter.com/BobHGL/status/1274670903851393025 (https://twitter.com/BobHGL/status/1274670903851393025)

https://twitter.com/BobHGL/status/1274682037715247104 (https://twitter.com/BobHGL/status/1274682037715247104)

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 21, 2020, 10:25:09 AM
Nice attempt by the girls with the flowers
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 21, 2020, 10:34:38 AM
https://twitter.com/TorinoFC1906_En/status/1274408298339500032
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 21, 2020, 11:58:48 AM
https://www.thestar.com/entertainment/opinion/2020/06/17/why-hal-johnsons-bodybreak-was-a-trojan-horse-in-the-war-on-racism-in-canada.html

Use to like bodybreak as a kid. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 21, 2020, 02:32:46 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/hd9c0y/one_of_the_officers_involved_in_george_floyds/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 21, 2020, 03:30:34 PM
https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1274733786039803906
https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1274721890989477888

Some people mad.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 21, 2020, 03:39:25 PM
https://twitter.com/bobpockrass/status/1274752851131150336


 :whatisthis
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 21, 2020, 04:16:15 PM
If you want to find groups in support of taking down statues and other historic artifacts and monuments
you end up at Lenin, the Nazi's, Mao, ISIS, the Taliban, Right Sector and John Bolton.

oh shit that's deep

I wonder what sort of groups built statues

:confused

are you asking what type of person builds monuments to people and events in their history?
Because the answer is pretty much every culture in human history. and some predating human history. And some that the only things we know about came from their monuments. And some that we only know exist because of their monuments.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 21, 2020, 04:29:04 PM
sage

do you think nintex was making a good point?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 21, 2020, 04:56:54 PM
I don't find glee in the destructive acts of an angry mob, and history tends not to favour them either :idont

If it was up to me to deal with these statues, I'd put it to a referendum of whether they deserve their place as public exhibition knowing what they represent to modern society.
Which would probably agree that these statues don't merit that. Unlike your Washingtons and Jeffersons.

Then I'd probably auction them off because someone will want them for some reason, even if it's just to put in a museum. Then use that money as a donation to some kind of disadvantaged youth outreach through art community program to create something new to replace them. And if that ends up as a statue of Kaepernick kneeling or whatever, so be it; can't push back against that if you're on the record about the importance of monuments in public art.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 21, 2020, 04:59:49 PM
https://twitter.com/sheeeelan/status/1273589331777765376

 :-[
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 21, 2020, 06:11:35 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/E4pDqIp.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 21, 2020, 06:20:09 PM
I liked that

Well, I am not seeing that.  :maf

I could use a like after jakefromstatefarm needlessly attacked me for no reason. We must solve Bore on Bore violence first before we can tackle violence by the police. :tocry
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 21, 2020, 06:22:56 PM
I liked that

Well, I am not seeing that.  :maf

I could use a like after jakefromstatefarm needlessly attacked me for no reason. We must solve Bore on Bore violence first before we can tackle violence by the mods. :tocry
;)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 21, 2020, 06:24:18 PM
I don't find glee in the destructive acts of an angry mob, and history tends not to favour them either :idont

If it was up to me to deal with these statues, I'd put it to a referendum of whether they deserve their place as public exhibition knowing what they represent to modern society.
Which would probably agree that these statues don't merit that. Unlike your Washingtons and Jeffersons.

Then I'd probably auction them off because someone will want them for some reason, even if it's just to put in a museum. Then use that money as a donation to some kind of disadvantaged youth outreach through art community program to create something new to replace them. And if that ends up as a statue of Kaepernick kneeling or whatever, so be it; can't push back against that if you're on the record about the importance of monuments in public art.
What are you talking about? This angry mob is totally in their right to take down every statue they see. You must be an extreme right winger if you want to preserve history.
Auction? GTFO Capitalism is bad and must be destroyed. Lol can you imagine people profiting from these statues of slave holders even more?

Referendum? How about you just hand over the keys to Russia right away.

No we must sit down and listen as we watch the mob dump statues and artworks into the sea they deem offensive and pay $10 for the privilege of watching them do it.
Have you seen the progress in Seattle? No longer is there capitalist and state oppression.

Surely this is a position that will win us many elections and won't completely backfire.
We have complete control of this mob, they won't come for the things that matter to us next.
Did I already mention we should defund the police so they won't be bothered?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 21, 2020, 06:24:38 PM
I liked that

Well, I am not seeing that.  :maf

I could use a like after jakefromstatefarm needlessly attacked me for no reason. We must solve Bore on Bore violence first before we can tackle violence by the mods. :tocry
;)


What’s the difference?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 21, 2020, 06:27:59 PM
between you and Vom?  I don't know. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 21, 2020, 06:28:13 PM
I liked that

Well, I am not seeing that.  :maf

I could use a like after jakefromstatefarm needlessly attacked me for no reason. We must solve Bore on Bore violence first before we can tackle violence by the mods. :tocry
;)


What’s the difference?
the police never killed any of my bore brehs like nach and assy  :fbm
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 21, 2020, 06:30:57 PM
I can only imagine how many L‘s etiolate(pbuh) would hand out in this thread  :-\
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 21, 2020, 06:33:22 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/3hTnDtP.jpg) :juche
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 21, 2020, 06:34:43 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/3hTnDtP.jpg) :juche
Fun fact: This man has a Presidential Pardon and thus can do all this with no repercussions.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 21, 2020, 06:35:36 PM
Call me when they find out ours is actually Churchill.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on June 21, 2020, 06:40:48 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/3hTnDtP.jpg) :bedroomeyes

Fixed  :-[
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 21, 2020, 06:44:51 PM
https://twitter.com/exjon/status/1274829023961464833 (https://twitter.com/exjon/status/1274829023961464833)

Yes we are now removing statues from museums because reasons
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 21, 2020, 06:47:07 PM
it's only natural  ;)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 21, 2020, 06:52:49 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/E4pDqIp.jpg)

https://youtu.be/ubKUMlEppAs
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 21, 2020, 06:59:54 PM
Do you think nintex realized I was making fun of him with the LOTR meme that he liked
Rule 92 A good meme is a good meme and must be respected with a like :idont
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 21, 2020, 07:07:27 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/3hTnDtP.jpg) :juche

LeBron Jame is a racist?

:titus
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: naff on June 21, 2020, 07:47:53 PM
jesus wtf dinesh, columbus was definitely not one of your dudes
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on June 21, 2020, 07:49:13 PM
https://twitter.com/bobpockrass/status/1274752851131150336


 :whatisthis

https://youtu.be/zk6rSPnLOLE
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 21, 2020, 07:54:21 PM
What are you talking about? This angry mob is totally in their right to take down every statue they see. You must be an extreme right winger if you want to preserve history.
Auction? GTFO Capitalism is bad and must be destroyed. Lol can you imagine people profiting from these statues of slave holders even more?

Referendum? How about you just hand over the keys to Russia right away.

No we must sit down and listen as we watch the mob dump statues and artworks into the sea they deem offensive and pay $10 for the privilege of watching them do it.
Have you seen the progress in Seattle? No longer is there capitalist and state oppression.

Surely this is a position that will win us many elections and won't completely backfire.
We have complete control of this mob, they won't come for the things that matter to us next.
Did I already mention we should defund the police so they won't be bothered?

how are you so butthurt you can't control your emotions over some statues?

get it together
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 21, 2020, 09:42:59 PM
I don't care if the statues stay or go. A number of them were put up decades or centuries after the fact, and they are being taken down because a bunch of people (a mob if you will) decided they needed to be toppled. I'm sure the people voting to take them down outnumber the people voting to install these statues wherever they are in the first place, so eh.

 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 21, 2020, 10:01:25 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/3hTnDtP.jpg) :juche

https://www.kut.org/post/woodrow-wilson-statue-removal-prompts-closer-look-his-history-race-relations

Your move.  :smug
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Steve Contra on June 21, 2020, 10:25:44 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/3hTnDtP.jpg) :juche
catholic dude born in Bombay siding with the confederacy is some definite 2020 shit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 21, 2020, 10:49:44 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/pFwLcGl.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 21, 2020, 10:52:16 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/3hTnDtP.jpg) :juche
catholic dude born in Bombay siding with the confederacy is some definite 2020 shit

Quote
In 1995 D'Souza published The End of Racism, in which he claimed that exaggerated claims of racism are holding back progress among African Americans in the US; he defended the Southern slave owner, and notes that "The American slave was treated like property, which is to say, pretty well".

:bedroomeyes
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Svejk on June 21, 2020, 11:54:40 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/fZAq8l4.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on June 22, 2020, 12:37:55 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/3hTnDtP.jpg) :juche
Fun fact: This man has a Presidential Pardon and thus can do all this with no repercussions.
Tweet?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 22, 2020, 12:46:43 AM
That Dinesh emote looked like blackface Dr. Drew for a second.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: OnlyRegret on June 22, 2020, 01:05:52 AM
https://twitter.com/liz_franczak/status/1274767351003508736
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 22, 2020, 02:37:33 AM
https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1274942880507822080


 :stahp
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 22, 2020, 02:39:50 AM
https://twitter.com/liz_franczak/status/1274767351003508736
ashkenazi milkers  :drool
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on June 22, 2020, 03:50:47 AM
https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1274942880507822080


 :stahp
https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1274943685763887104

 :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tuckers Law on June 22, 2020, 12:53:02 PM
Kid should’ve known better than to come into that hood wearing those colors, he forced their hand.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 22, 2020, 04:00:36 PM
https://twitter.com/liz_franczak/status/1274767351003508736
If she doesn't at least attempt to find a suitable BBC she goes in the racist column  :maduro
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 22, 2020, 04:11:45 PM
zionist whore gets destroyed by BBC :shaq
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 22, 2020, 04:23:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LjXcobjnpQ

Also, I didn't realize this was the statue people were defending

(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/06/22/arts/22statue3/merlin_173727570_20211fc1-f059-4e09-aef9-7176d69bc9fa-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale)

:dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 22, 2020, 04:38:38 PM
Maybe we could get this with Prince William but replace him with


(https://i.imgur.com/oKGygAn.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 22, 2020, 06:18:54 PM
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2020/06/22/veteran-toronto-officer-aided-organized-crime-in-gta-tow-truck-industry-police-say.html
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 22, 2020, 07:09:55 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-53140069
'Arctic Circle sees 'highest-ever' recorded temperatures'


going to be a wild summer. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 22, 2020, 09:52:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BB0Q1qHpAw&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 22, 2020, 09:57:01 PM
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1275245520785739776

Spoiler: Force will be used.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 23, 2020, 12:31:51 AM
why don't they just put it up to a vote :)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 23, 2020, 04:07:34 AM
https://twitter.com/wypipo_h8/status/1275228765941977089 (https://twitter.com/wypipo_h8/status/1275228765941977089)

The Queen of Karens 95

Nobody can even come close
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 23, 2020, 05:22:27 AM
Holy shit, that is a mental breakdown and a half.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on June 23, 2020, 07:24:33 AM
We solve road arguments through twitter mobs, in 2020.  :rejoice
What a bright future ahead.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 23, 2020, 07:28:01 AM
Wow a suburban hillary clinton voter.
Such a rare specimen  8)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 23, 2020, 09:19:12 AM
At least she was wearing a mask, though.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Yeti on June 23, 2020, 10:55:41 AM
But she had her nose poking out   :rage
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 23, 2020, 10:55:46 AM
I really hate how the internet is burning out Karen. It used to be a great term to identify a very particular type of white woman. Now all the bandwagoners use it too liberally.

It's like Bubba. You can only use that term on a certain type of southerner, otherwise it loses it's meaning.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 23, 2020, 11:06:05 AM

I really hate how the internet is burning out Karen. It used to be a great term to identify a very particular type of white woman. Now all the bandwagoners use it too liberally.

It's like Bubba. You can only use that term on a certain type of southerner, otherwise it loses it's meaning.



Ok Karen. 



https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/heakbt/cop_asks_man_to_slap_him_then_arrests_him_for_it/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 23, 2020, 11:28:40 AM
https://twitter.com/wypipo_h8/status/1275228765941977089 (https://twitter.com/wypipo_h8/status/1275228765941977089)

The Queen of Karens 95

Nobody can even come close
https://twitter.com/debdrens/status/1275439438093410306 (thread)

Possible layers to this, guy seems out to have his Karen fighting moment, so did he catch one or did he make some of that shit up and now she's freaking out because she's about to be ostracized for something she didn't do? Tough to tell when all she can do is cry and fail at covering her license plate. The world is burning.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on June 23, 2020, 12:28:36 PM
https://twitter.com/wypipo_h8/status/1275228765941977089 (https://twitter.com/wypipo_h8/status/1275228765941977089)

The Queen of Karens 95

Nobody can even come close
https://twitter.com/debdrens/status/1275439438093410306 (thread)

Possible layers to this, guy seems out to have his Karen fighting moment, so did he catch one or did he make some of that shit up and now she's freaking out because she's about to be ostracized for something she didn't do? Tough to tell when all she can do is cry and fail at covering her license plate. The world is burning.

I don't really have a sophisticated opinion about the content in this video, but isn't it kind of crazy that you can get 5m views and 60k retweets on a video purporting some heinous behavior but having no evidence of it?  There's like nothing in this video at all.  I expected better from @wypipo_h8.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: OnlyRegret on June 23, 2020, 12:35:52 PM
Unsurprisingly, run into the ground like all things and gaining tract with the general misogynist crowd
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 23, 2020, 12:55:43 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/hedr5p/off_duty_police_officer_of_st_joseph_missouri/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on June 23, 2020, 01:08:38 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/hedr5p/off_duty_police_officer_of_st_joseph_missouri/

https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article243711837.html

Looks like they're going to investigate while he's put on administrative duty.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 23, 2020, 01:36:44 PM
I really hate how the internet is burning out Karen. It used to be a great term to identify a very particular type of white woman. Now all the bandwagoners use it too liberally.

It's like Bubba. You can only use that term on a certain type of southerner, otherwise it loses it's meaning.



of course it'd be someone like toxic adam downplaying this.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 23, 2020, 01:43:54 PM
What does that even mean?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Rufus on June 23, 2020, 02:52:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BB0Q1qHpAw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BB0Q1qHpAw)
https://play.acast.com/s/history-of-ideas
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 23, 2020, 03:30:10 PM
That's not even a Karen. A karen is somebody who is unrepentant about her behavior.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 23, 2020, 03:34:37 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/hedr5p/off_duty_police_officer_of_st_joseph_missouri/

https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article243711837.html

Looks like they're going to investigate while he's put on administrative duty.

What about the uniformed officer who told him to comply, wtf
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 23, 2020, 03:51:08 PM
https://twitter.com/wypipo_h8/status/1275228765941977089 (https://twitter.com/wypipo_h8/status/1275228765941977089)

The Queen of Karens 95

Nobody can even come close
https://twitter.com/debdrens/status/1275439438093410306 (thread)

Possible layers to this, guy seems out to have his Karen fighting moment, so did he catch one or did he make some of that shit up and now she's freaking out because she's about to be ostracized for something she didn't do? Tough to tell when all she can do is cry and fail at covering her license plate. The world is burning.

I don't really have a sophisticated opinion about the content in this video, but isn't it kind of crazy that you can get 5m views and 60k retweets on a video purporting some heinous behavior but having no evidence of it?  There's like nothing in this video at all.  I expected better from @wypipo_h8.

If you helped ruin a strangers life over the internet based on what some other stranger said, you can now get the commemorative T-Shirt
https://twitter.com/TrueAnonPod/status/1275472985093058560
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on June 23, 2020, 06:08:13 PM
Wow, this guy is a professional.

https://mobile.twitter.com/epstein_penis/status/1275514417707393035
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 23, 2020, 07:56:49 PM
bubba wallace thing turned out to be fake noose  :trumps p good setup by the cons tbh  :mueller
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on June 23, 2020, 08:03:31 PM
bubba wallace thing turned out to be fake noose  :trumps p good setup by the cons tbh  :mueller

Oakland mayor still the GOAT.

https://mobile.twitter.com/NicolasHeidorn/status/1273427547242389511
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: headwalk on June 23, 2020, 08:52:54 PM
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/sports/fbi-finds-no-crime-over-noose-bubba-wallace-nascar-garage-n1231951

it was a handle.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 23, 2020, 09:23:00 PM
https://twitter.com/brooklynmutt/status/1275582279289581571
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on June 23, 2020, 09:26:07 PM

The Queen of Karens 95

Nobody can even come close

Possible layers to this, guy seems out to have his Karen fighting moment, so did he catch one or did he make some of that shit up and now she's freaking out because she's about to be ostracized for something she didn't do? Tough to tell when all she can do is cry and fail at covering her license plate. The world is burning.

I don't really have a sophisticated opinion about the content in this video, but isn't it kind of crazy that you can get 5m views and 60k retweets on a video purporting some heinous behavior but having no evidence of it?  There's like nothing in this video at all.  I expected better from @wypipo_h8.

If you helped ruin a strangers life over the internet based on what some other stranger said, you can now get the commemorative T-Shirt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYIILCuJJeE
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 23, 2020, 09:30:03 PM
https://twitter.com/brooklynmutt/status/1275582279289581571

lmao
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Oblivion on June 24, 2020, 03:43:18 PM
https://twitter.com/Mr_Alexius/status/1275071862398087172


holy shit  :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 24, 2020, 03:46:52 PM
https://twitter.com/Realdevinhaney/status/1274557480517816320

I think this is what did it.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Oblivion on June 24, 2020, 03:56:48 PM
https://twitter.com/Realdevinhaney/status/1274557480517816320

I think this is what did it.

that would explain it. otherwise i don't know why the guy would bother making a follow up video on it when he could have just lied and something like 'shit, guess no one's man enough to step in the ring with ME  :cody "
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 24, 2020, 04:00:00 PM
Should have gone with: no one is man enough to top me tbh.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 24, 2020, 04:12:13 PM
There's no big corp coverage of this so idk but keep seeing posts about this :titus

The 'official' story and the 'twitter' story about this are radically different.

Official story:
https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2020/06/23/suspected-sex-trafficking-house-burned/
https://twitter.com/ktteaa/status/1275850965468446721

A mob showed up at a house, the police searched it and found nothing, the mob started trying to get into the house again, the police came and searched it again, the mob tried to break in again, someone inside the house shot at them, and then got arrested, then after theyd been taken away the mob broke in, and someone burnt it down.

Meanwhile one (or both?) of the missing girls and 2 other kids were found somewhere completely different, and according to the police when interviewed said they knew nothing about that house that was burned down, had never been there, and didn't even know anyone there.

Thats a radically different take to:
https://twitter.com/Machistado/status/1275582744198893569
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 24, 2020, 04:18:37 PM
Should always approach human trafficking stories with your BS meter cranked all the way up.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 24, 2020, 04:20:10 PM
That Milwaukee story sounds like some crackpot conspiracy theory. I wouldn’t put too much stock into it.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 24, 2020, 04:23:06 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbQqpciWAAAJ_Q9?format=jpg) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbQqpcjXkAARuoV?format=jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 24, 2020, 04:25:40 PM
When approaching human trafficking stories, Mandark cranks up so hard that he still holds reservations about Epstein. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 24, 2020, 04:27:02 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbQqpciWAAAJ_Q9?format=jpg) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbQqpcjXkAARuoV?format=jpg)

r/malelivingspaces
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 24, 2020, 04:27:07 PM
Some of the twitter replies are accusing the MPD of openly supporting or even running a pedo ring. This is  some pizzagate tier shit IMO.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BisMarckie on June 24, 2020, 04:27:54 PM
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/028/154/Screen_Shot_2019-01-14_at_1.23.53_PM.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 24, 2020, 04:30:09 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbQqpcjXkAARuoV?format=jpg)

the room with the stuffed toys looks more like a squat for a single mother with a young child than a sinister trafficking cell for 13-15 year old girls
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: naff on June 24, 2020, 07:06:03 PM
good to know TheBore™ detectives are on the case to determine the truth of the matter  :esports
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 24, 2020, 07:13:14 PM
"Mommy why are these angry people setting our house on fire?"

"Because Hillary Clinton owns our home through a shell company sweety"  :fbm
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on June 24, 2020, 08:10:41 PM
Maybe that was Mr Plinkett’s house damn.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 25, 2020, 08:56:33 AM
Bump

Looks like the world is burned out  8)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 25, 2020, 10:03:22 AM
#notalldemons
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 25, 2020, 10:07:16 AM
#OrcLivesMatter
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 25, 2020, 01:44:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOAOVbyfjA0
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 25, 2020, 03:16:27 PM
#OrcLivesMatter

#CancelWarhammer for it's hurtful Orc stereotypes.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Raist on June 25, 2020, 03:22:38 PM
Thanks Obama.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: curly on June 25, 2020, 05:12:18 PM
Unsurprisingly, run into the ground like all things and gaining tract with the general misogynist crowd

https://twitter.com/flurgggh/status/1275667461845778437
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 25, 2020, 05:39:02 PM
People unironically trying to say Karen is a slur.  :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 25, 2020, 06:49:04 PM
Unsurprisingly, run into the ground like all things and gaining tract with the general misogynist crowd

https://twitter.com/flurgggh/status/1275667461845778437

We're coming for you next, Tasty! :bolo
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 25, 2020, 06:50:22 PM
Al-Arabiya sources: The explosion may have occurred in the Iranian Parchin nuclear facility #العربية_عاجل

https://twitter.com/AlArabiya_Eng/status/1276286417820356620 (https://twitter.com/AlArabiya_Eng/status/1276286417820356620)

Something is burning alright
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: OnlyRegret on June 26, 2020, 12:30:38 AM
#OrcLivesMatter

#CancelWarhammer for it's hurtful Orc stereotypes.

itz orks ya squig fer brainz git
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: MMaRsu on June 26, 2020, 06:44:59 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIl3k9C7HGo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL-ZoNhUFmc

Pac speaking some real shit back in the day still hits the same
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 26, 2020, 07:11:13 AM
https://twitter.com/croe1987/status/1276402195706056704


 :pimp
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 26, 2020, 03:31:20 PM
https://twitter.com/notcolloquial/status/1276026724376096768

 :rejoice
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 26, 2020, 11:07:39 PM
Quote
The Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department will soon charge the public $280 for every hour of body-worn camera footage. The increase from $192 per hour of video to $280, a fee hike of almost $100, goes live July 1.
Really embracing the moment
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 27, 2020, 12:06:55 AM
https://twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/1276667101000994816

the biden blacks ladies and gents  :trumps
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on June 27, 2020, 01:02:23 AM
They should replace it with a statue of protestors tearing down a statue
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 27, 2020, 01:39:47 AM
https://twitter.com/SBANYPD/status/1276466021969334280

just completely deranged shit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 27, 2020, 06:03:39 AM
https://twitter.com/TechnicallyRon/status/1276806040495980545

:dead

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Do we have a generic culture wars/kancel kulture thread or something? I don't know where anything is supposed to go anymore  :-[
[close]
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 27, 2020, 06:53:37 AM
I was blocked by glinner on twitter 10 years ago, pb years ahead of the curve baybee :smug
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 27, 2020, 08:02:54 AM
https://twitter.com/_sagnikbasu/status/1276682947895197697 (https://twitter.com/_sagnikbasu/status/1276682947895197697)

Older black dudes will save America from itself  :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 27, 2020, 09:57:09 AM
https://twitter.com/TechnicallyRon/status/1276806040495980545

:dead

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Behold! A chair!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 27, 2020, 02:18:00 PM
https://twitter.com/_sagnikbasu/status/1276682947895197697 (https://twitter.com/_sagnikbasu/status/1276682947895197697)

Older black dudes will save America from itself  :lol
someone gotta be paying these old farts to come out and do this dumb shid  :mueller
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 27, 2020, 02:22:14 PM
Glinner walking right into that rhetorical trap and getting rekt by a Twitter rando the exact same way Plato was by Diogenes with the "featherless biped," well over two centuries millenia later.

:dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Raist on June 27, 2020, 02:37:26 PM
I think that was a little over 200 years ago :p
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 27, 2020, 03:26:26 PM
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/dafonte-miller-theriault-decision-1.5627792 fuck this shit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on June 27, 2020, 04:16:19 PM
I think that was a little over 200 years ago :p
200 years ago, was when some big wig "historian" made that story up.  ;)

EDIT: Why don't we have a proper reptilian emote?  >:(
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: toku on June 27, 2020, 06:43:14 PM
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nuclear-particles-baltic-idUSKBN23X2TN
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 27, 2020, 06:45:10 PM
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nuclear-particles-baltic-idUSKBN23X2TN
Oh yeah, there's probably a nuclear thing somewhere in the area of Sweden and St. Petersburg.

No big deal kiddo's  :smug
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 27, 2020, 06:58:32 PM
kaizo :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 27, 2020, 07:23:08 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1276995624588709888 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1276995624588709888)

Trump just posted this and a wall of pictures of protesters the police is looking to identify.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on June 27, 2020, 07:50:12 PM
https://twitter.com/Scoop_Montana1/status/1276894166405046273


 :whew
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: headwalk on June 27, 2020, 09:55:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5TVLEaqqdI
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 28, 2020, 08:03:22 AM
Trump thanks them for this shit  :lol

He even got the seniors in golf carts to fight it out on the streets.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1277204969561755649 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1277204969561755649)

Trump basically turned America into a WWE battle royal  :money
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: curly on June 28, 2020, 05:34:38 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EboMtAaWoAAKFPy?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 28, 2020, 05:36:56 PM
Trying to reconcile my enjoyment of Newsradio with the knowledge that Jimmy James was siphoning off surplus value from his workers. :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 28, 2020, 05:41:20 PM
B99 is going to have a very special episode next season that will cover all this stuff and ease everyone's conscious. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 28, 2020, 05:41:42 PM
https://twitter.com/journalistew/status/1277064714158309378
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 28, 2020, 05:47:31 PM
Tri, you've posted tweets from that account a few times. You know it's anti-leftist/sjw "satire," right?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 28, 2020, 05:58:01 PM
Yes, I know what twitter account. If you want, I'll edit it the twitter account to post the image itself.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on June 28, 2020, 06:03:38 PM
just wondering, cause you'd also post joe keskold in the wank dad thread
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on June 28, 2020, 06:08:57 PM
If Nick Mullen's fake Brooklyn's persona isn't a wank dad, I don't know what is.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 28, 2020, 09:54:51 PM
https://twitter.com/jessiedesigngal/status/1277126019246260224
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 28, 2020, 10:45:38 PM
https://twitter.com/TechnicallyRon/status/1276806040495980545

:dead

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https://twitter.com/sims/status/1277381145706053632

#Oop

:kermit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: chronovore on June 28, 2020, 10:54:46 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EboMtAaWoAAKFPy?format=jpg&name=medium)

http://twitter.com/pennyred/status/1277350130329325568

What was the gist of it?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 29, 2020, 10:12:33 AM
https://twitter.com/mammothfactory/status/1277250484726837250
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 29, 2020, 06:11:34 PM
https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca/news/article/shovels-needed-to-move-dead-moths-after-millions-swarm-quebec-cities
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 29, 2020, 06:23:25 PM
Pink-shirted gunman will be a good costume when I’m passing out candy this Halloween. Really puts the edge back in trick or treating.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 30, 2020, 11:23:28 AM
Just lower your subscription fees, you chodes.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 30, 2020, 11:24:39 AM
Suprised netflix has 100M$
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 30, 2020, 11:37:30 AM
(https://preview.redd.it/lix7ikdci1851.jpg?width=547&auto=webp&s=b29ab6e2c303d138dd3bf7e72ad40d7f3d48e05c)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 30, 2020, 11:39:42 AM
https://fox4kc.com/news/woman-shot-multiple-times-while-trying-to-steal-nazi-flag-from-oklahoma-mans-yard/?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 30, 2020, 11:41:09 AM
https://twitter.com/VernorsHerzog/status/1277572383021371393
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on June 30, 2020, 12:36:13 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/06/24/magazine/reparations-slavery.html
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 30, 2020, 12:56:11 PM
Suprised netflix has 100M$

That's like half of Chapelle's upfront fee.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jorma on June 30, 2020, 01:05:06 PM
Suprised netflix has 100M$

how could that possibly surprise you? They have more than 10 billion to spend on content every year, and they are still profitable  :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 30, 2020, 01:09:52 PM
It was a joke about Netflix's revenue. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jorma on June 30, 2020, 01:18:53 PM
It was a joke about Netflix's revenue.

their 20 billion dollar revenue? weird joke, but okay...  :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 30, 2020, 01:36:23 PM
It was a joke about Netflix's revenue.

their 20 billion dollar revenue? weird joke, but okay...  :doge

I meant profits, and I was still under the impression that they were burning more money than taking in - guess that's not the case.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 30, 2020, 01:37:29 PM
Also, don't  :doge same me.  I can  :doge if I want to.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 30, 2020, 01:42:11 PM
It was a joke about Netflix's revenue. 

But their revenue is pretty high too.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jorma on June 30, 2020, 01:42:28 PM
It was a joke about Netflix's revenue.

their 20 billion dollar revenue? weird joke, but okay...  :doge

I meant profits, and I was still under the impression that they were burning more money than taking in - guess that's not the case.

well you're not exactly wrong, they are burning money like crazy and their profits aren't exactly impressive compared to their market cap, but 100 million is still peanuts to them... 
and if i wanna doge i'm gonna doge!  :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 30, 2020, 01:42:57 PM
you're pretty high too
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 30, 2020, 01:56:01 PM
(https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/106152886_1170252989998884_380291502273933776_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=BzepTFexXYQAX_6fWB5&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-2.xx&_nc_tp=14&oh=af3a1fd02d8c90198ffc8704b473a7a7&oe=5F21E32F)

posting this for myself
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 30, 2020, 01:57:20 PM
(https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/106152886_1170252989998884_380291502273933776_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=BzepTFexXYQAX_6fWB5&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-2.xx&_nc_tp=14&oh=af3a1fd02d8c90198ffc8704b473a7a7&oe=5F21E32F)

reposting for other people
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on June 30, 2020, 02:10:22 PM
:piss  :doge  :piss2
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on June 30, 2020, 05:51:53 PM
Word on the Twitter is that the gun wielding karen and her husband are going to be interviewed on Tucker Carlson.   :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 30, 2020, 06:16:19 PM
Apparently filler runs the uk wing of black lives matter :titus

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53242328

:rejoice :rejoice :rejoice
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 30, 2020, 06:17:34 PM
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the zios are winning again :stahp
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Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on June 30, 2020, 06:47:33 PM
https://youtu.be/Aqo-hyxjCYE
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on July 01, 2020, 02:55:16 AM
Quote
In a scathing letter to AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka dated June 12, the leader of the International Union of Police Associations said that a statement about America’s history of racism and violence against black people is “patently false,” and angrily denounced Trumka as “disgraceful” for “playing to the crowd” on the issue of police reform.
This is Trumka's reward for standing up for police unions in the AFL-CIO :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EchoRin on July 01, 2020, 03:01:46 AM
Are you implying many users have blocked poor ol' Shosta?

edit: nevermind. Post is too late since I last checked this thread.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 01, 2020, 12:28:41 PM
(https://i.redd.it/jk3cglq0r6851.png)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 01, 2020, 04:26:21 PM
https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-4186
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on July 01, 2020, 06:38:30 PM
https://twitter.com/notcolloquial/status/1278454811399258112
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on July 01, 2020, 10:57:43 PM
https://twitter.com/anniekarni/status/1255489121159712775
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Yeti on July 02, 2020, 12:49:29 AM
If this country’s rocking, don’t come a-knocking
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on July 02, 2020, 05:58:19 PM
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1278592095222067201 (https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1278592095222067201)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Akala on July 02, 2020, 07:57:31 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/4iKsbGf.jpg)

:yikes

Kinda makes me want to get more guns.  :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on July 03, 2020, 04:13:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFlOSlaB6PU
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on July 03, 2020, 12:22:43 PM

King tucker  8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiIZTVuSUiY
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on July 03, 2020, 01:46:30 PM
Did Donald Trump plan his Mt Rushmore rally first or were people protesting it beforehand which made him decide to go to Mt Rushmore for a rally?

I do not like the idea of Trump using Mt Rushmore as a backdrop to a rally. I also do not like the idea of people protesting Mt Rushmore. Trump, a fascist, will use Mt Rushmore protests as protests against America's greatest presidents, which he will use as evidence that the protesters are anti-American. Considering it's July 4, there's a real possibility he could garner sympathy and he might make a comeback.

This legit frightens me. Trump is an existential threat. I've supported the protesters and protesters, burning down the police precinct, but Mt Rushmore? I'm legit scared his prospects will improve because of it. Mt Rushmore is certainly a case of prior white supremacy as it is on stolen land. However, Trump and his surrogates exist as present white supremacy.

They must be stopped.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 03, 2020, 02:00:13 PM
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/witness-shocked-force-used-calgary-police-1.5629065?fbclid=IwAR3QIyNaXDvQ-LlMoHpfJaZdN7sc6cHWf96hnWvtMY21z7IQFG37kk0xW0w
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on July 03, 2020, 02:08:57 PM
I do not like the idea of Trump using Mt Rushmore as a backdrop to a rally. I also do not like the idea of people protesting Mt Rushmore. Trump, a fascist, will use Mt Rushmore protests as protests against America's greatest presidents, which he will use as evidence that the protesters are anti-American. Considering it's July 4, there's a real possibility he could garner sympathy and he might make a comeback.

All of Trump's biggest recent photo ops (in front of the church, addressing West Point grads, holding a rally) have ended in humiliation.

Even if it all went absolutely perfect for him, there'd be another controversy/scandal within 72 hours and we'd all forget it.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on July 03, 2020, 02:12:44 PM
(https://i.redd.it/jk3cglq0r6851.png)

Unironic like. In Oregon, they legally have to replant every tree they harvest, they’re just long term farmers chasing farming’s most dangerous harvest
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on July 03, 2020, 02:56:30 PM
what the fuck are they doing out there where they're all dying
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on July 03, 2020, 02:57:04 PM
chopping down big-ass trees
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on July 03, 2020, 02:58:09 PM
if i were a lumberjack i would simply step aside
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on July 03, 2020, 03:29:25 PM
Case Study 1: On October 9, 1992, a 33-year-old male tree feller was killed while operating a chainsaw. Using a 4-horsepower, 16-inch, bow-bar chainsaw, the victim felled a 40-foot pine tree. He then used the bow-bar chainsaw to cut the limbs from the felled tree. As the victim cut through a spring pole, the chain saw recoiled and kicked back, fatally striking him in the throat.

Case Study 2: On April 8, 1993, a 28-year-old male equipment operator was killed when he was struck and run over by the skidder machine he was operating. The victim pulled into a landing area (which had a slope of less than 5 percent), stopped the skidder, and unhooked a number of logs that were being dragged. The victim remounted the skidder and drove it around an idled log-loader. As he did so, the skidder ran over two logs lying on the ground—one 6 inches in diameter and the other about 14 inches in diameter. When the skidder ran over the logs, the victim apparently lost his balance, fell or jumped from the skidder cab, and was run over by the left rear tire. The victim sustained multiple traumas to the head and torso and died at the scene.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on July 03, 2020, 03:33:51 PM
Has there been any followup reporting on the last shooting in the CHOP before it got dismantled? Saw that the kid who died got identified, but nothing else besides that and the initial reports.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on July 03, 2020, 04:00:34 PM
Has there been any followup reporting on the last shooting in the CHOP before it got dismantled? Saw that the kid who died got identified, but nothing else besides that and the initial reports.
Well the CHOP police was abolished and defunded so case closed
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on July 03, 2020, 07:27:39 PM
Did Donald Trump plan his Mt Rushmore rally first or were people protesting it beforehand which made him decide to go to Mt Rushmore for a rally?

I do not like the idea of Trump using Mt Rushmore as a backdrop to a rally. I also do not like the idea of people protesting Mt Rushmore. Trump, a fascist, will use Mt Rushmore protests as protests against America's greatest presidents, which he will use as evidence that the protesters are anti-American. Considering it's July 4, there's a real possibility he could garner sympathy and he might make a comeback.

This legit frightens me. Trump is an existential threat. I've supported the protesters and protesters, burning down the police precinct, but Mt Rushmore? I'm legit scared his prospects will improve because of it. Mt Rushmore is certainly a case of prior white supremacy as it is on stolen land. However, Trump and his surrogates exist as present white supremacy.

They must be stopped.
trump and co have been looking for a reason to go to mount rushmore for three years. It's another inflection point.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 04, 2020, 11:22:01 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/hlai8p/karen_calls_cops_on_black_man_for_driving_a_nice/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X13zTdZrOk8
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EightBitNate on July 04, 2020, 11:28:31 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/hlai8p/karen_calls_cops_on_black_man_for_driving_a_nice/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X13zTdZrOk8

So the woman follows the man and calls 911 to report that he’s stolen a car based on absolutely 0 evidence and then later says “I didn’t mean to racial profile”?

:confused :confused :confused
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: curly on July 05, 2020, 02:53:14 PM
https://twitter.com/IGD_News/status/1279659868090073089
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on July 05, 2020, 03:36:48 PM
remember a few years back when lots of places were trying to pass laws that would protect people who ran over protesters
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on July 05, 2020, 03:40:03 PM
Yes!

The push for those bills ended when Heather Heyer was run over, but it was a good representation of the rightwing id. You could still get bumper stickers with "jokes" about running over protesters.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on July 05, 2020, 04:07:25 PM
It was a response to earlier BLM protests and the anti-Trump protests after he was inaugurated.

The wild thing is that these bills would specifically only apply if someone was blocking the road to protest or demonstrate. So someone would have different liability for hitting a pedestrian based on that pedestrian's political actions. Even in these fucked up times, that stands out.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: curly on July 05, 2020, 04:57:12 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/mattsebastian/status/1279152945305489410
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on July 05, 2020, 05:00:37 PM
acab
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on July 05, 2020, 06:02:01 PM
https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1279860278679801856

https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1279864366855344130

 :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on July 05, 2020, 07:24:49 PM
 :dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: bork on July 06, 2020, 07:44:15 AM
https://twitter.com/4TheCulture____/status/1279838549685211137
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on July 06, 2020, 07:49:14 AM
If only they called Trump, he would've probably confirmed it.

#JusticeforQaren
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Raist on July 06, 2020, 10:51:56 AM
I like how she very carefully and precisely paints over the letters. Maybe she's actually trying to help by making it black instead of yellow...?

:rofl
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 07, 2020, 11:08:33 AM
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53317861
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on July 07, 2020, 12:25:00 PM
Surprised I didn't see this until today

https://twitter.com/_SJPeace_/status/1270796282878181376

 :dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: tiesto on July 07, 2020, 02:19:32 PM
Happened pretty close by, awful...
https://nypost.com/2020/07/07/long-island-man-allegedly-drives-suv-into-blm-protesters/?fbclid=IwAR1GGejrYL1-rtz7OPda6YGckuAq8TKlr9ykg5NMnwE5ljKKX7Ou24m6QJ4 (https://nypost.com/2020/07/07/long-island-man-allegedly-drives-suv-into-blm-protesters/?fbclid=IwAR1GGejrYL1-rtz7OPda6YGckuAq8TKlr9ykg5NMnwE5ljKKX7Ou24m6QJ4)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on July 07, 2020, 02:25:52 PM
Happened pretty close by, awful...
https://nypost.com/2020/07/07/long-island-man-allegedly-drives-suv-into-blm-protesters/?fbclid=IwAR1GGejrYL1-rtz7OPda6YGckuAq8TKlr9ykg5NMnwE5ljKKX7Ou24m6QJ4 (https://nypost.com/2020/07/07/long-island-man-allegedly-drives-suv-into-blm-protesters/?fbclid=IwAR1GGejrYL1-rtz7OPda6YGckuAq8TKlr9ykg5NMnwE5ljKKX7Ou24m6QJ4)
I like how it says "allegedly" when two people had to be taken to a hospital.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 07, 2020, 04:44:20 PM
with sound  https://bloomingtonian.com/2020/07/05/bloomington-man-threatened-with-noose-during-assault-at-lake-monroe/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on July 07, 2020, 05:02:03 PM
Time for Macklemore to step up.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on July 07, 2020, 05:09:11 PM
Whomst?
Macklemore is a common name applied to a number of different species of pelagic fish, mostly from the family Scombridae. They are found in both temperate and tropical seas, mostly living along the coast or offshore in the oceanic environment.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on July 07, 2020, 05:12:00 PM
David Guettas time to shine (again)!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on July 07, 2020, 05:28:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5ZgEtgxxg0

~30 secs in, keep watching
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 07, 2020, 09:19:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlZoUGiTJxA&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EchoRin on July 08, 2020, 10:17:57 AM
I like how my nearest Target is still hiding off of Google Maps. If you zoom in super close (like way closer than any sane business looking for customers would actually want) it says CVS and Target Groceries. But you have to actually search "Target" for the general marker to appear on the building. Look you cucks. You had one hole in a side window and no looting. Stop being a bunch of Mandarks.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on July 09, 2020, 10:50:27 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUTb7gA6ZhI
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on July 10, 2020, 04:16:23 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/FOX9/status/1281414209704808449

Quote
But the stress and trauma reached a tipping point with the siege of the Third Police Precinct, he said. Fifty of the officers currently seeking disability, about one-third of the total, were present at the Third Precinct on Thursday, May 28.

“They did not feel they were going to come home,” said Meuser. Some officers were texting their families’ goodbye and others were saving a bullet in case they needed to take their own life, rather than being beaten to death, he said.

These guys really think they’re in an action movie.

https://youtu.be/K5CCUdu7xFI
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Propagandhim on July 10, 2020, 06:30:01 PM
https://twitter.com/spekulation/status/1281656761296936961
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 12, 2020, 02:06:49 PM
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canada-s-largest-indigenous-police-force-has-never-shot-anyone-dead-1.5020967
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 12, 2020, 04:57:24 PM
https://www.opb.org/news/article/federal-officers-portland-protester-shot-less-lethal-munitions/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 12, 2020, 08:17:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSr0YJm34CU
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on July 13, 2020, 12:11:24 PM
https://twitter.com/somayeJ2000/status/1282558439655342086
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on July 13, 2020, 12:38:23 PM
https://twitter.com/_SJPeace_/status/1232053566845734912

:rejoice
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on July 13, 2020, 12:40:56 PM
 :whatisthis
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Raist on July 13, 2020, 03:25:12 PM
https://twitter.com/somayeJ2000/status/1282558439655342086


1. What am I looking at? Context?

2. This has to be ranking pretty high on the list of "completely useless desperate move to try to put a fire out".
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 13, 2020, 03:25:48 PM
https://twitter.com/somayeJ2000/status/1282558439655342086


1. What am I looking at? Context?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/12/us/naval-ship-fire-san-diego.html
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Raist on July 13, 2020, 03:33:33 PM
Thanks dude.



Now answer #2 :bolo
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 13, 2020, 03:35:14 PM
THE SECOND LINE WASN'T A QUESTION
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 14, 2020, 09:40:28 AM
https://twitter.com/HKesvani/status/1282977628564193280
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Raist on July 14, 2020, 12:42:29 PM
THE SECOND LINE WASN'T A QUESTION

Looks like I forgot to add "Unless I'm missing something?" :stahp
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on July 14, 2020, 12:48:00 PM
Despite the question mark, that is also not a question
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 14, 2020, 01:04:05 PM
or is it?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 14, 2020, 01:05:13 PM
Despite the question mark, that is also not a question?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 14, 2020, 01:07:07 PM
Stop this madness?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: OnlyRegret on July 14, 2020, 01:07:44 PM
No?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: MMaRsu on July 14, 2020, 01:21:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPP6XAsPbz8
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on July 14, 2020, 03:00:22 PM
All cops are thots

(https://avatars.mds.yandex.net/get-zen_doc/1657335/pub_5da6933978125e00b191e7f3_5da69412e4fff000af4c20af/orig)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on July 14, 2020, 03:05:57 PM
Stop this madness?

No. More dead cops!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Trent Dole on July 14, 2020, 04:25:42 PM
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1283030112309575686
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: MMaRsu on July 14, 2020, 04:53:17 PM
Stop this madness?

No. More dead cops!

You inspired me

https://youtu.be/DGXEY8Wi6-o
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 15, 2020, 01:02:29 PM
https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/cop-who-threatened-kill-protesters-shoots-kills-colleague-who-knocked-door-affidavit-says/BMAXC27P7FA7LMIAXFQUJAHZJE/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: chronovore on July 15, 2020, 10:01:37 PM
https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/cop-who-threatened-kill-protesters-shoots-kills-colleague-who-knocked-door-affidavit-says/BMAXC27P7FA7LMIAXFQUJAHZJE/

What a goddamned idiot.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 16, 2020, 03:16:03 PM
https://www.thetorontoharold.com/news/vfnfd58pa9xgfdnjocpuuq63d2rfii

Quote
Stats Canada Reports Not One Baby Has Been Named “Karen” Since November 13 2019

Quote
“The Last Karen”, as she’s been referred, was born at Toronto’s Western Hospital in November of 2019. Much like the relatives of Hitler who made a pact to change their name and not procreate in order to end the bloodline, The Last Karen is expected to bear the burden throughout her entire life of ending the Karen name permanently.


:lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on July 17, 2020, 12:09:14 AM
https://twitter.com/dburbach/status/1283936410043637763
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on July 17, 2020, 12:46:14 AM
https://twitter.com/dburbach/status/1283936410043637763

 :goty

https://mobile.twitter.com/DHS_Wolf/status/1283824060422598656
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on July 17, 2020, 12:57:48 AM
Cool country. Where’s the unsubscribe button?

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 17, 2020, 10:02:47 AM
Cool country. Where’s the unsubscribe button?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTgwLKRPQF8
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on July 17, 2020, 01:09:37 PM
https://twitter.com/DHS_Wolf/status/1284095516276592641 (https://twitter.com/DHS_Wolf/status/1284095516276592641)

Mr. Wolf will not surrender against the violent jet set radio gangs


Q: Are we living in a simulation?

A: The Acting Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security is called Chad Wolf
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tuckers Law on July 17, 2020, 01:25:49 PM
At what point does police wearing military outfits carry over into stolen valor?

Because motherfuck the police.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: stufte on July 17, 2020, 03:29:35 PM
I'm not keen on Nazi comparisons, but this is some gestapo secret police shit right here.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Dickie Dee on July 17, 2020, 03:44:27 PM
What's the legality using force in self-defence against a supposed "authority" that will not identify itself?

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: stufte on July 17, 2020, 03:46:38 PM
What's the legality using force in self-defence against a supposed "authority" that will not identify itself?

You'd probably legally find yourself dead.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2020, 10:28:07 PM
What in the Christ.

https://abovethelaw.com/2020/07/sorry-to-interrupt-your-friday-but-homeland-security-is-disappearing-american-citizens-off-the-street/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on July 18, 2020, 02:13:37 AM
It's the border patrol which makes these legal:
https://www.thenation.com/article/society/border-patrol-portland-arrest/
Quote
Dated July 1, the memo is titled “Public Affairs Guidance: CBP Support to Protect Federal Facilities and Property” and marked “For Official Use Only.” It describes a special task force created by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) in response to President Trump’s Executive Order on Protecting American Monuments, Memorials, and Statues and Combating Recent Criminal Violence. That task force, the Protecting American Communities Task Force (PACT), has been tasked not only to assess civil unrest but also to “surge” resources to protect against it.

The Portland arrest of Mark Pettibone, first reported by Oregon Public Broadcasting, followed several similar arrests involving officers from a Border Patrol Tactical Unit (BORTAC)—CBP’s equivalent of a SWAT team—as well as the US Marshals Special Operations Group. A CBP spokesman confirmed to The Nation that CBP agents were responsible for the arrest, pointing to authorities under the Protecting American Communities Task Force.

“Violent anarchists have organized events in Portland over the last several weeks with willful intent to damage and destroy federal property, as well as injure federal officers and agents,” said the CBP spokesman. “These criminal actions will not be tolerated.”

The talking points memo identifies a series of potential questions, including many of those being asked in response to the Portland arrests. In several cases, it instructs CBP officials not to answer them, citing “operational security.” For example, in response to questions about where CBP personnel are being deployed, the memo says “it would not be appropriate to disclose law enforcement operational specifics which could jeopardize operational security.” As for questions about when CBP personnel will be deployed and for how long, the memo states, “We do not give out operational specifics, however we hope this support will be short-term, just for the July 4th weekend.” The CBP spokesman, however, did not give any indication the operation would be coming to an end. “The Department of Homeland Security [DHS] and its components will continue to work tirelessly to reestablish law and order,” he said.
(https://www.wired.com/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2008/10/22/imagemap.gif)
https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/border-zone/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on July 18, 2020, 02:16:25 AM
Are you a bad enough dude to take out these violent anarchists?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: chronovore on July 18, 2020, 02:18:16 AM
It's the border patrol which makes these OSTENSIBLY legal:
(snip)

FTFY
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on July 18, 2020, 02:22:40 AM
I would never question my government's claims as to what is legal or not. I have faith in their judgement.

Unless Joe Biden wins.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on July 18, 2020, 02:30:00 AM
https://twitter.com/CBPMarkMorgan/status/1284206664913215491
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: VomKriege on July 18, 2020, 02:37:17 AM
We got secret police literally kidnapping people off the street and throwing them into minivans now


Real neat


:beli

Did you know El Salvador meant The Saviour, isn't that an hopeful name ?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 18, 2020, 11:14:09 AM
https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1284350228808769537

Very legal and very cool. :goty
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on July 18, 2020, 02:41:58 PM
https://twitter.com/itspete213/status/1284430865175470080
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: chronovore on July 18, 2020, 11:04:57 PM
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Trent Dole on July 19, 2020, 12:46:57 AM
It's the border patrol which makes these legal:
https://www.thenation.com/article/society/border-patrol-portland-arrest/
Quote
Dated July 1, the memo is titled “Public Affairs Guidance: CBP Support to Protect Federal Facilities and Property” and marked “For Official Use Only.” It describes a special task force created by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) in response to President Drumpf’s Executive Order on Protecting American Monuments, Memorials, and Statues and Combating Recent Criminal Violence. That task force, the Protecting American Communities Task Force (PACT), has been tasked not only to assess civil unrest but also to “surge” resources to protect against it.

The Portland arrest of Mark Pettibone, first reported by Oregon Public Broadcasting, followed several similar arrests involving officers from a Border Patrol Tactical Unit (BORTAC)—CBP’s equivalent of a SWAT team—as well as the US Marshals Special Operations Group. A CBP spokesman confirmed to The Nation that CBP agents were responsible for the arrest, pointing to authorities under the Protecting American Communities Task Force.

“Violent anarchists have organized events in Portland over the last several weeks with willful intent to damage and destroy federal property, as well as injure federal officers and agents,” said the CBP spokesman. “These criminal actions will not be tolerated.”

The talking points memo identifies a series of potential questions, including many of those being asked in response to the Portland arrests. In several cases, it instructs CBP officials not to answer them, citing “operational security.” For example, in response to questions about where CBP personnel are being deployed, the memo says “it would not be appropriate to disclose law enforcement operational specifics which could jeopardize operational security.” As for questions about when CBP personnel will be deployed and for how long, the memo states, “We do not give out operational specifics, however we hope this support will be short-term, just for the July 4th weekend.” The CBP spokesman, however, did not give any indication the operation would be coming to an end. “The Department of Homeland Security [DHS] and its components will continue to work tirelessly to reestablish law and order,” he said.
(https://www.wired.com/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2008/10/22/imagemap.gif)
https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/border-zone/
oh cool literally the entirety of my state. :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Beezy on July 19, 2020, 02:58:49 AM
https://twitter.com/McAuleyATL/status/1284320852243353602

https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1284704272282800128
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 19, 2020, 03:45:18 AM
:maduro
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 20, 2020, 02:25:15 AM
Moms are tough.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on July 20, 2020, 02:37:07 AM
oh cool literally the entirety of my state. :doge
the best club to be in, we're safer than the rest :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: VomKriege on July 20, 2020, 02:48:23 AM
https://twitter.com/heyyadoraa/status/1284741256426463232
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: zomgee on July 20, 2020, 12:06:57 PM
save us witchtok
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on July 20, 2020, 02:31:37 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/48v4do.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on July 20, 2020, 02:48:06 PM
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1285244981322690560 (https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1285244981322690560)

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on July 20, 2020, 03:12:25 PM
https://twitter.com/HomelandKen/status/1285027054249967621  ???
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on July 20, 2020, 03:16:52 PM
https://twitter.com/HomelandKen/status/1285030306857263106 (https://twitter.com/HomelandKen/status/1285030306857263106)

Why the hell would you hire people with such garbage takes :killme
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on July 20, 2020, 03:34:22 PM
We won't come full circle until Republicans start sharing the profound wisdom of President Trump a decade from now.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 20, 2020, 03:37:34 PM
https://twitter.com/HomelandKen/status/1285030306857263106 (https://twitter.com/HomelandKen/status/1285030306857263106)

Why the hell would you hire people with such garbage takes :killme

or someone with cucc in their name :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 20, 2020, 03:49:39 PM
Oh no, not our great Liberal institution Amazon. :(
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 20, 2020, 04:20:45 PM
Good thing he clarified that the radical Left was the crocodile, otherwise we might assume he was talking about Trump.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: chronovore on July 20, 2020, 10:08:02 PM
We won't come full circle until Republicans start sharing the profound wisdom of President Trump a decade from now.

We have a small advantage in that quotes normally need to be complete sentences.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on July 20, 2020, 10:22:38 PM
We won't come full circle until Republicans start sharing the profound wisdom of President Trump a decade from now.

We have a small advantage in that quotes normally need to be complete sentences.

PRESIDENTIAL HARASSMENT.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: chronovore on July 21, 2020, 03:30:17 AM
We won't come full circle until Republicans start sharing the profound wisdom of President Trump a decade from now.

We have a small advantage in that quotes normally need to be complete sentences.

PRESIDENTIAL HARASSMENT.

Given the opportunity, I'd grab him by the pussy.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on July 21, 2020, 04:05:30 AM
This outrageous spending reminds me of a quote by President Trump
I've never seen a thin person drink diet coke
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Fifstar on July 21, 2020, 04:07:06 AM
https://twitter.com/HomelandKen/status/1285027054249967621  ???

Is this a parody account?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 21, 2020, 09:03:11 AM
Sadly, no.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on July 21, 2020, 11:31:47 AM
https://twitter.com/NickMiroff/status/1285340060909473797
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 21, 2020, 12:26:01 PM
you can't just blow tear gas back at us!! :maf haha leafblower go brrrrrrrrrrrr :brock
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on July 21, 2020, 01:05:08 PM
https://www.wtkr.com/news/newport-news-shipbuilding-investigate-fire-on-uss-john-f-kennedy

anotha one :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 21, 2020, 01:07:26 PM
https://www.wtkr.com/news/newport-news-shipbuilding-investigate-fire-on-uss-john-f-kennedy

anotha one :doge

Quote
The shipyard says the fire created a lot of smoke but no injuries were reported.

 :snore
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on July 21, 2020, 01:19:38 PM
Quote
'minor fire' on the future USS John F. Kennedy
:thinking
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Steve Contra on July 21, 2020, 01:57:13 PM
It's the border patrol which makes these legal:
https://www.thenation.com/article/society/border-patrol-portland-arrest/
Quote
Dated July 1, the memo is titled “Public Affairs Guidance: CBP Support to Protect Federal Facilities and Property” and marked “For Official Use Only.” It describes a special task force created by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) in response to President Trump’s Executive Order on Protecting American Monuments, Memorials, and Statues and Combating Recent Criminal Violence. That task force, the Protecting American Communities Task Force (PACT), has been tasked not only to assess civil unrest but also to “surge” resources to protect against it.

The Portland arrest of Mark Pettibone, first reported by Oregon Public Broadcasting, followed several similar arrests involving officers from a Border Patrol Tactical Unit (BORTAC)—CBP’s equivalent of a SWAT team—as well as the US Marshals Special Operations Group. A CBP spokesman confirmed to The Nation that CBP agents were responsible for the arrest, pointing to authorities under the Protecting American Communities Task Force.

“Violent anarchists have organized events in Portland over the last several weeks with willful intent to damage and destroy federal property, as well as injure federal officers and agents,” said the CBP spokesman. “These criminal actions will not be tolerated.”

The talking points memo identifies a series of potential questions, including many of those being asked in response to the Portland arrests. In several cases, it instructs CBP officials not to answer them, citing “operational security.” For example, in response to questions about where CBP personnel are being deployed, the memo says “it would not be appropriate to disclose law enforcement operational specifics which could jeopardize operational security.” As for questions about when CBP personnel will be deployed and for how long, the memo states, “We do not give out operational specifics, however we hope this support will be short-term, just for the July 4th weekend.” The CBP spokesman, however, did not give any indication the operation would be coming to an end. “The Department of Homeland Security [DHS] and its components will continue to work tirelessly to reestablish law and order,” he said.
(https://www.wired.com/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2008/10/22/imagemap.gif)
https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/border-zone/
as far as I know Ice can operate in the same distance from any international airport so basically any city that isn’t Denver because the airport is like 3 fucking counties away.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on July 21, 2020, 08:36:37 PM
https://twitter.com/ByMikeBaker/status/1285431298136276992

Just saw this... popular resistance going strong :lawd
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on July 21, 2020, 11:01:26 PM
https://www.wweek.com/news/2020/07/19/in-further-sign-of-tension-portland-fire-rescue-bans-federal-cops-and-portland-cops-from-using-its-stations/

Firefighters rock :heh
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on July 22, 2020, 08:03:08 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EddlDjCXgAEOvRN.jpg)


Look at that snapback from Republicans. God damn.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 22, 2020, 12:05:14 PM
https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1285914841715220481

warning lots of blood
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on July 22, 2020, 05:16:54 PM
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1286032386719965191 (https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1286032386719965191)

 :riot
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: stufte on July 22, 2020, 07:24:47 PM
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1286032386719965191 (https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1286032386719965191)

 :riot

I can't imagine this will go well and will fix NONE of the systemic problems.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EchoRin on July 22, 2020, 08:17:55 PM
Well, this will be fun. Good looking out for us Trump, I guess.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 22, 2020, 09:05:36 PM
Maybe they'll do better than the unskilled law enforcement officers we've been sending.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: stufte on July 23, 2020, 01:56:17 PM
https://twitter.com/KyleIboshi/status/1286174564397924352

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1286277411634655234
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on July 23, 2020, 03:43:29 PM
It's fucking nuts that Trump and the Trump admin literally speak of and treat the American population like they're enemy combatants. Using tactics the military used in Fallujah on the American streets :beli

Describing the Chicago operation as a "surge" is a bit on the nose.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Kara on July 23, 2020, 03:57:01 PM
It was nuts when it happened in Iraq too.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: ToxicAdam on July 23, 2020, 03:58:17 PM
Can we embed Wolf Blitzer in one of the hotels to report?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Positive Touch on July 23, 2020, 04:24:22 PM
they've spent the last two decades explicitly stating that the left wanted to destroy the country and were working with outside terrorist groups, so it's only natural that it would come to this point
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 24, 2020, 08:10:42 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/toronto/comments/hx73k5/naked_man_dumps_toronto_cop_into_a_bush/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on July 24, 2020, 08:59:19 PM
https://twitter.com/AchmatX/status/1286827056723099649


 :kermit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on July 24, 2020, 09:34:12 PM
https://twitter.com/NYDailyNews/status/1286457767729991680
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 24, 2020, 10:35:45 PM
https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1286787275075080199

https://twitter.com/pawpatrol/status/1286758670009864194
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on July 25, 2020, 12:20:08 AM
https://twitter.com/alexnazaryan/status/1286718175506178048

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1286719571605454850

:mindblown
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on July 25, 2020, 06:08:37 AM
On one hand, the White House is spreading propaganda that would make other dictatorships blush.

On the other, she’s pretty hot for a press secretary.

I think it balances out.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 25, 2020, 10:36:39 AM
does it tho
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on July 25, 2020, 03:12:55 PM
Don't worry stro... Professor Benjamin Pwns says there's no internal violence on the horizon
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on July 25, 2020, 04:53:09 PM
https://twitter.com/HayesGardner/status/1287111637875544064
https://twitter.com/HayesGardner/status/1287114175970447361

:leon
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on July 25, 2020, 08:04:47 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/ByMikeBaker/status/1287162863216287744
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on July 25, 2020, 08:07:45 PM
Shit in Louisville looks wild: A heavily armed black militia group from Atlanta has arrived to back up the protesters against the heavily armed police, and there's now a heavily armed white militia group in all camo that are out to protest the black militia group, so in this one or two block area you have like 300 people with rifles and shotguns that all hate each other for different reasons and are ready to cause some chaos.

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/07/25/16/31187804-8559841-image-a-6_1595692624020.jpg)

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/07/25/17/31189658-8559841-image-a-16_1595695539791.jpg)

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/07/25/19/31192200-8559841-image-a-27_1595701648304.jpg)



Cops shot but did not kill three of the NFAC (Not Fucking Around Collalition :lol ) members over night
They look like some very great people on both sides  :trumps
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on July 25, 2020, 08:58:55 PM
Shut up you bootlicker
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on July 25, 2020, 09:29:29 PM
https://twitter.com/SBCOUNTYFIRE/status/1287191795131011072
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on July 25, 2020, 10:46:23 PM
https://twitter.com/escapebound/status/1286790099364184065

 :heart
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Kara on July 29, 2020, 01:33:03 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/07/28/us/umbrella-man-associated-white-supremacist-group-george-floyd/index.html

Minneapolis police identify 'Umbrella Man' who helped incite George Floyd riots, warrant says

Quote
Minneapolis(CNN)Minneapolis police have identified a suspect whom they believe helped initiate the riots and destruction in the city following the killing of George Floyd.

According to a search warrant filed earlier this week, which was obtained by CNN affiliate WCCO, the man is associated with the "Aryan Cowboys," which the Anti-Defamation League lists as a White supremacist prison and street gang. The warrant does not label them as a White supremacist group, but describes them as a "known prison gang out of Minnesota and Kentucky."

Video of the "Umbrella Man" went viral after protesters in Minneapolis confronted and filmed him on May 27 while he was in the act of smashing several windows of an AutoZone store.

An arson investigator wrote in a search warrant affidavit that the man also spray painted the words "free sh*t for everyone zone" on the doors of the AutoZone. Not long after he smashed in the windows, looting began, and a bit later the AutoZone was set on fire, the affidavit said.

"This was the first fire that set off a string of fires and looting throughout the precinct and the rest of the city," Sgt. Erika Christensen, a Minneapolis police arson investigator, wrote in the affidavit, which was filed in court on Monday.

"Until the actions of the person your affiant has been calling 'Umbrella Man,' the protests had been relatively peaceful. The actions of this person created an atmosphere of hostility and tension. Your affiant believes that this individual's sole aim was to incite violence."

Christensen said in the warrant that police recently received a tip regarding the identity of "Umbrella Man."

The tipster told the investigator that the man "wanted to sow discord and racial unrest by breaking out the windows and writing what he did on the double red doors."

Remember kids, a shield is the best defense against a gladio.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on August 03, 2020, 04:16:40 PM
https://twitter.com/amcnal/status/1290081466760810498

Bork blasted.  :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on August 04, 2020, 04:32:30 AM
https://twitter.com/MartianMarxist/status/1290562874352340992

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on August 05, 2020, 10:06:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zthJUf31MA
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on August 06, 2020, 06:08:10 PM
frat bros  :rofl
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on August 07, 2020, 08:53:22 PM
Quote from: https://apnews.com/7e660cd8c172fca5cd49e703d74f92fc
SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — Some Black Lives Matter protesters in Salt Lake City could face up to life in prison if they’re convicted of splashing red paint and smashing windows during a protest, a potential punishment that stands out among demonstrators arrested around the country and one that critics say doesn’t fit the alleged crime.

The felony criminal mischief charges are more serious because they carry a gang enhancement. Prosecutors said Wednesday that’s justified because the protesters worked together to cause thousands of dollars in damage, but watchdogs called the use of the 1990s-era law troubling, especially in the context of criminal justice reform and minority communities.

“This is so far beyond just the enforcement of the law, it feels retaliatory,” said Madalena McNeil, who is facing a potential life sentence over felony criminal mischief and riot charges. Charging documents say she bought red paint at a Home Depot before the July 9 demonstration sparked by a fatal police shooting ruling. She later yelled at and shifted her weight as if to slam into police during the demonstration, charges state.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on August 08, 2020, 11:06:48 PM
https://twitter.com/GAFollowers/status/1292212421503877123
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on August 09, 2020, 07:57:11 AM
https://www.news4jax.com/news/georgia/2020/08/08/family-says-waycross-police-officer-fired-shots-at-5-children-including-9-year-old/

I'm very dubious about the handgun claim...
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pennywise on August 10, 2020, 07:11:43 AM
https://twitter.com/TadeuszGiczan/status/1292574868328927238
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on August 16, 2020, 01:59:31 PM
https://twitter.com/Spronsenite/status/1294954167874670596

https://twitter.com/hungrybowtie/status/1294551688959811584

pigs amirite
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on August 16, 2020, 02:02:00 PM
https://twitter.com/lisabKOIN/status/1294061247273381890

:lol
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on August 18, 2020, 03:59:56 AM
https://twitter.com/panoparker/status/1295327666665553920

:morans  :punch  :dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on August 18, 2020, 04:16:15 AM
https://twitter.com/jims__juice/status/1295456600455553031
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Ghoul on August 18, 2020, 07:25:51 AM
no one:

Old woman: Good for you, well done!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 19, 2020, 06:54:43 PM
Who could’ve seen this coming?

https://mobile.twitter.com/RachaelHerron/status/1296103976262221824
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on August 19, 2020, 06:57:22 PM
when your slave labor are too sick to put out fires in a pandemic  :doge

are there any private contractors for fire fighting that don't use slaves?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on August 20, 2020, 12:00:34 PM
Freaking out about Santa Cruz right now.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 20, 2020, 12:15:24 PM
when your slave labor are too sick to put out fires in a pandemic  :doge

are there any private contractors for fire fighting that don't use slaves?

None that don't cost money.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EightBitNate on August 20, 2020, 02:24:48 PM
https://twitter.com/simppilgrim/status/1296311031770169345
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on August 20, 2020, 08:46:34 PM
https://twitter.com/TheAVClub/status/1296609211707777024
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on August 20, 2020, 11:25:34 PM
Thousands of NYPD discipline records published by New York Civil Liberties Union after court order is lifted (https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/20/us/nypd-police-discipline-records/index.html)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 21, 2020, 01:18:48 PM
https://news.sky.com/story/man-dies-in-arizona-after-being-restrained-by-police-on-hot-tarmac-for-six-minutes-12053541
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on August 21, 2020, 07:19:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjo8ev8Oi9Y
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 21, 2020, 10:21:31 PM
https://twitter.com/TexasTribune/status/1296855438974214145
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on August 21, 2020, 10:31:39 PM
riotous, you have to protect vegankitty at all costs!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on August 21, 2020, 10:53:11 PM
filler you can't like that post because you don't know what I'm talking about because you refuse to join the discord
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on August 21, 2020, 11:19:49 PM
I only like exclusives when they're on nintendo  :miyamoto
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 22, 2020, 04:00:45 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53856776

Quote
Local officials in Florida have approved the release of 750 million mosquitoes that have been genetically modified to reduce local populations.

Hope they mean Floridians 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on August 22, 2020, 04:10:19 PM
This world is burning. And you know why. YOU
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on August 23, 2020, 09:01:21 PM
These fires got me fucked up pretty bad. Just staring at the fire tracker every day and checking Facebook and wondering if my peeps are alright :goty
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on August 24, 2020, 12:28:47 AM
Police shot a black man in the back in Kenosha, Wisconsin. He's not dead (yet) and there's video.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on August 24, 2020, 12:32:37 AM
https://twitter.com/AttorneyCrump/status/1297721479711334401
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on August 24, 2020, 02:58:18 AM
https://twitter.com/past_is_future/status/1297150858933743616
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on August 24, 2020, 04:38:51 AM
https://twitter.com/AttorneyCrump/status/1297721479711334401
Wtf

Never break up a fight between women brehs

Riots and fires, apparently the kids were in the car  :notlikethis
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on August 24, 2020, 07:40:46 AM
Never break up a fight between women brehs

just fuck off
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on August 24, 2020, 09:30:53 AM
https://twitter.com/AttorneyCrump/status/1297721479711334401

holy shit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 24, 2020, 11:38:29 AM
https://www.si.com/college/2020/08/20/barry-wesley-colorado-state-antifa-daily-cover?utm_source=pocket-newtab
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on August 26, 2020, 01:14:07 PM
https://twitter.com/MollyBeck/status/1298668069493981184
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: brawndolicious on August 26, 2020, 05:16:34 PM
There's video of all of it. After the shooter killed a couple protesters and realizes he can't outrun the protestors who are trying to apprehend him, he tries walking towards the cops and swat trucks with his hands up but they don't do anything. They just assumed a white dude with a gun is probably okay. Despite the crowd around them screaming that he just shot some people.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 26, 2020, 08:54:58 PM
It was only a matter of time before this white Gun/Trump culture lead to this. Shame it was a teenager.

I say shame and I mean it in two ways. It is a shame a 17 year old kid did this and it will impact his life terribly. And it should. He should go to jail.

But I understand some mercy is possible, but knowing how things work that will be the focus. If this was a 30+ year old it would be a different story. A 17 year old will get some mercy. Which I’m not sure he should. As that will become the story and the sticking point. Not the fact that this whole militia gun culture effect that Trump endorsers lead to this. Not that these people have decided they are the true Patriots and have to fight this injustice...the injustice that is people mad at the flawed and racist system that leads to anger and protests and maybe riots. They will not focus that this 17 year old and his actions are a product of an American Culture gone wrong. The one our president encourages and feeds off of. These people weaponize what is to be American. They weaponize the flag as a symbol of their ideology. And their ideology is dangerous because it thinks America and this President can not and should not be critiqued. Which is funny, because those things are the most American things you can do.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on August 26, 2020, 09:28:15 PM
but none were as close to the election ;)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 26, 2020, 09:44:44 PM
I’m sure, but this one is a bit more sensationalist. And because my own bias I feel a bit more conflicted, because the shooter is only 17. 17 year old dudes are dumb and make stupid mistakes. I feel for the kid in that regard. But on the flip side I also really dislike what I identify as the culture this kid is from and probably influenced his actions. I don’t care for these self imposed militia people that come out to oppose these protests. I only think they are coming from beliefs and thoughts I in no way agree with. Beliefs I think are really dangerous and indicative of pretty much everything Trump.  So in a way I think it’s sad and I see this kid as a victim. But also because I hate where he’s coming from I think he should be punished. Where in a more normal time, I’d be all for mercy and forgiveness.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 26, 2020, 09:48:10 PM
I don't have a lot of sympathy for a 17 who doesn't know that murdering people is bad.  Especially when the motivation is to be a little fascist. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 26, 2020, 11:29:46 PM
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/kenosha-suspect-kyle-rittenhouse-trump-rally
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on August 26, 2020, 11:32:31 PM
He's a deeply misguided kid who made a terrible mistake. It's just sad that our society produced this.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 26, 2020, 11:33:46 PM
I don't have a lot of sympathy for a 17 who doesn't know that murdering people is bad.  Especially when the motivation is to be a little fascist.

I have less than zero sympathy for him. This is a country that closes its eyes when black children are killed by crazy people and elects a racist president who turns a blind eye to all of it. Fuck him.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on August 26, 2020, 11:35:00 PM
You guys are using a lot of words to not blame the actual cause here: Call of Duty: Black Ops: Cold War. Multiplayer reveal coming September 9th.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on August 27, 2020, 06:48:12 AM
Right wing media figures are rallying around the kid. Shapiro, Carlson, Coulter, the redsteeze guy, etc.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 27, 2020, 06:57:09 AM
https://www.mintpressnews.com/police-told-right-wing-kenosha-killer-we-appreciate-you-just-before-deadly-shootings/270778/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on August 27, 2020, 08:00:49 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgZwpSZVAAAv8EF?format=jpg)

Fiery but mostly peaceful
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 27, 2020, 09:04:34 AM
You'd think the right wing fuckos would try to avoid this story because it's very definitely going to come out that he's going to admit to wanting to kill people directly because of Trump

Most of them are so far down the hole that they think it's justified.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on August 27, 2020, 09:10:47 AM
You'd think the right wing fuckos would try to avoid this story because it's very definitely going to come out that he's going to admit to wanting to kill people directly because of Trump
It will ignite more chaos in the streets which is good for their polling because LAW and ORDER is now the second most important issue voters care about according to focus groups*

*citation needed
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: zomgee on August 27, 2020, 09:46:48 AM
Current Facebook narrative is "watch the video, it's self defense." And then they bring up a video of some kid shooting a child molester as an equivalence that kids should handle guns for self defense and the ends justify the means.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on August 27, 2020, 09:54:16 AM
Quote from: https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/08/27/906566596/alleged-kenosha-shooter-fervently-supported-blue-lives-joined-local-militia
Rittenhouse was charged a week ago in a separate case in Kenosha County for allegedly speeding between 20 and 24 mph over the limit on a freeway and for driving without a valid license.

A Facebook page that appeared to be Rittenhouse's showed publicly-visible posts that were almost exclusively about police.

The profile picture posted to the page was a photo of him and another young white male holding guns. The backdrop for the photo is a U.S. flag adorned with the "thin blue line," a symbol of solidarity with police. Around the photo was a circle with the caption, "Duty. Honor. Courage. Blue Lives Matter."

...

The Facebook page attributed to Rittenhouse also included posts of a Chicago Police logo with a thin blue line across it and a tribute to a Chicago police officer killed in the line of duty in 2018, as well as a remembrance of a McHenry County, Ill., sheriff's deputy killed in the line of duty in 2019.

In December 2018, the page solicited donations to "Humanizing the Badge" for Rittenhouse's 16th birthday. He explained that the organization was a nonprofit group "seeking to forge stronger relationships between law enforcement officers and the communities they serve."
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Atramental on August 28, 2020, 06:46:11 AM
Fascist piglets get the bullet too.  :pacspit
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Himu on August 28, 2020, 09:02:30 AM
He's a deeply misguided kid who made a terrible mistake. It's just sad that our society produced this.

Yes. Poor him. Let's get him some Burger King.

Black kids would never get that treatment. Fuck that kid.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 28, 2020, 09:35:47 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/ihicdx/arizona_man_shot_dead_by_cop_when_he_answered_the/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 28, 2020, 09:42:11 AM
"Everyone should own and carry a gun at all times to protect themselves"

"HES GOT A GUN SHOOT SHOOT SHOOT"
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 28, 2020, 10:15:18 AM
https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/officer-who-allegedly-raped-rookie-colleague-still-not-charged-internal-probe-found-misconduct-occurred/wcm/24375eae-32c9-43a6-a5b2-047d0da2e2a0/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on August 28, 2020, 10:50:55 AM
:drudge NSFL

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/ihicdx/arizona_man_shot_dead_by_cop_when_he_answered_the/

:drudge NSFL

Police investigating domestic violence call. Man answers door with gun because it's late at night. Gets lit up. They were making salsa and playing Crash Bandicoot :mjcry
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 28, 2020, 10:56:44 AM
And shined a flashlight in his face when he opened the door
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 28, 2020, 11:02:57 AM
:existential

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on August 28, 2020, 11:20:56 AM
:existential
yeah dude your cops don't even have guns
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on August 28, 2020, 11:31:02 AM
"Relax lady we just shot your husband/boyfriend no big deal"  :dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 28, 2020, 12:02:05 PM
:existential
yeah dude your cops don't even have guns

they gave him what 30 seconds at maximum to drop his gun then lit him up, insane :tocry
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on August 28, 2020, 12:13:35 PM
Actually they gave him four seconds
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 28, 2020, 12:33:49 PM
I only watched for about ten seconds after the cops fired and I'm still thinking about that video. It makes me so angry and frustrated and sad. Why do we keep letting this happen?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 28, 2020, 12:38:05 PM
:piss :usacry :piss2
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 28, 2020, 03:21:20 PM
https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/ex-boston-police-union-pres-charged-with-raping-4-more-children/2183771/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: stufte on August 28, 2020, 03:30:42 PM
guh. that shooting reminds me of the one where they have the guy on the ground in the hallway and are yelling at him to crawl forward. he is losing his pants in the crawl and goes to pull up his pants when they just open fire on him. Shit's fucked.

*edit* here's an article. and of course the cop is found not guilty.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-daniel-shaver-police-video-20171208-story.html
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on August 28, 2020, 03:33:32 PM
https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/ex-boston-police-union-pres-charged-with-raping-4-more-children/2183771/

Would it be cheap to dig up a story from 4 years ago where this pedo was fighting against the use of body cameras by the Boston police?

Maybe! But here it is anyway: https://www.bostonherald.com/2016/08/16/boston-mayor-plans-to-force-cops-to-wear-cameras-if-officers-dont-step-up/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 28, 2020, 04:08:28 PM
guh. that shooting reminds me of the one where they have the guy on the ground in the hallway and are yelling at him to crawl forward. he is losing his pants in the crawl and goes to pull up his pants when they just open fire on him. Shit's fucked.

*edit* here's an article. and of course the cop is found not guilty.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-daniel-shaver-police-video-20171208-story.html

Still think about that one sometimes, too. It's just so incredibly depressing that NOTHING. EVER. CHANGES.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on August 28, 2020, 04:59:14 PM
https://twitter.com/RickStrom/status/1299401017520533505

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhZ-k6xYsUg
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Beezy on August 28, 2020, 07:58:55 PM
Listening to the other cop basically justify his partner shooting the guy for having a gun in his hand, which was pointed straight down the whole time, is fucking frustrating. Also fuck that neighbor.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on August 29, 2020, 05:23:56 AM
https://twitter.com/mgafni/status/1299201524053299200
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 29, 2020, 12:46:45 PM
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/pierre-coriolan-coroner-s-inquest-lawyer-compensation-1.5698125
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on August 29, 2020, 02:24:35 PM
Right wing media figures are rallying around the kid. Shapiro, Carlson, Coulter, the redsteeze guy, etc.
"(the whites)You have your sellout and uncle tom and you call it the left" "white people created this thing called the right and the left. And now it's like left are the uncle tom white people who 'like those negroes' and  'we the real white people the right'"
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 31, 2020, 05:19:30 PM
https://spectrumnews1.com/ca/la-west/public-safety/2020/08/30/whistleblower-testifies-deputy-who-shot-gardena-teen-was--chasing-ink--
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on August 31, 2020, 05:56:19 PM
Quote
It is very disturbing – to say the least – that gangs are commonly known to exist within the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department
:maduro
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on August 31, 2020, 06:12:44 PM
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More than a dozen deputies have matching tattoos and belong to a violent clique called the Executioners at the station, according to Deputy Art Gonzalez, who filed a whistleblower complaint regarding the Executioners in June.
:leon
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on August 31, 2020, 06:15:37 PM
 :money
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 31, 2020, 07:00:26 PM
Boys, think we should get matching tats to celebrate all those we have killed in the digital realm.  Call ourselves the E-xecutioners, where the "E" is like the "E" in "E"- commerce.  It means electronic.  Like our friendships and murders. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Beezy on September 01, 2020, 12:01:43 AM
https://www.wdrb.com/in-depth/drug-suspect-offered-july-plea-deal-if-he-would-admit-breonna-taylor-part-of-organized/article_df18d6e0-ebaf-11ea-b636-9ff3afe1f8ed.html

fucked up
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on September 01, 2020, 02:54:54 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/PressHerald/status/1300809515798081537
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on September 01, 2020, 04:00:43 PM
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1300691652370001920

Andy Ngo is still super mad.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on September 01, 2020, 06:00:51 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/CeR9Shz.jpg) :salute
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on September 01, 2020, 08:46:35 PM
(crosspost from discord)

ok guys, I saw a video of the first victim of Kyle rittenhouse and he was definitely chasing him down to disarm him. I don't think that justifies it (in many states it's still illegal to shoot someone in self defense unless your life is clearly in danger) but it's not really the same story I thought it was. that said, provoking people into an altercation and then shooting them still makes you a murderer.

imo the main lesson is still that guns don't make people safer. Militias do not make people safer. And right wing freikorp bullshit definitely doesn't make people safer. There is no property on planet Earth that needs to be defended with murder.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on September 01, 2020, 08:51:07 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/CeR9Shz.jpg) :salute
Ramirez! Defend Waffle House!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on September 02, 2020, 01:16:53 AM
(crosspost from discord)

ok guys, I saw a video of the first victim of Kyle rittenhouse and he was definitely chasing him down to disarm him. I don't think that justifies it (in many states it's still illegal to shoot someone in self defense unless your life is clearly in danger) but it's not really the same story I thought it was. that said, provoking people into an altercation and then shooting them still makes you a murderer.

imo the main lesson is still that guns don't make people safer. Militias do not make people safer. And right wing freikorp bullshit definitely doesn't make people safer. There is no property on planet Earth that needs to be defended with murder.

link

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I saw a video of the first victim of Kyle rittenhouse and he was definitely chasing him down to disarm him

Is this is a troll?

Punisher rittenhouse has no business chasing down people to disarm them. This isn't an episode of Seinfeld.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on September 02, 2020, 03:49:25 AM
imo the main lesson is still that guns don't make people safer. Militias do not make people safer. And right wing freikorp bullshit definitely doesn't make people safer.

I mean... this is stuff a lot of first world countries already figured out.
Also the death penalty doesn't deter crime.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: benjipwns on September 02, 2020, 04:13:20 AM
Militias do not make people safer.
shosta takes the side of the imperialists, you hate to see it
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on September 02, 2020, 04:27:12 AM
What I don't get is right wingers asserting it's a good thing to have civilian militias on the streets 'enforcing law and order', when that's an inherent acknowledgement that the US police forces are doing a shit job and need a bunch of military fantasists power tripping
:idont
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on September 02, 2020, 07:45:20 AM
Because what they're asserting has nothing to do with the militia, police, or law and order.

It has to do with the subjects.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on September 02, 2020, 11:28:00 AM
What I don't get is right wingers asserting it's a good thing to have civilian militias on the streets 'enforcing law and order', when that's an inherent acknowledgement that the US police forces are doing a shit job and need a bunch of military fantasists power tripping
:idont
The right loves paramilitary organizations that take action when the police are having difficulty. It's not meant as a criticism of police usually, but it can be a criticism of government for not taking enough action. "Only we, the [fascists] can solve the violent left wing problem."
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on September 02, 2020, 11:29:10 AM
The security forces have their hands tied by the damn pencil-pushers in city hall! etc.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: shosta on September 02, 2020, 11:32:04 AM
Let us knock some heads, and beat some thugs. Let us go door to door and drag them out. Let us suspend their rights and show them swift punishments for breaking the law. Then you'll see how fast this problem can be solved.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on September 02, 2020, 11:39:48 AM
I do understand it, I'm just snarking on one of the more transparent hypocrisies of the US right-wing.
"We need guns in case our government tries to oppress us, also, thank god for people with firearms and no training or accountability trying to stop people protesting their oppression"
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 04, 2020, 02:06:01 PM
https://gothamist.com/news/video-pro-trump-counterprotesters-received-nypd-escort-driving-through-black-lives-matter-march

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NYPD Commissioner Dermot Shea said on Friday morning that police were still investigating whether a crime was committed. The vehicle has not been located and no arrests have been made, the department confirmed. The spokesperson said the car was not used by the NYPD.

The vehicle’s license plate matches that of another car frequently shared on social media by Hakim Gibson, a pro-NYPD activist who currently runs a “law enforcement support page.” The Ford Taurus appears to be a former police car purchased from a police auction. According to Facebook posts, Gibson recently outfitted the car with a push bumper and spotlight, joking online that other drivers had often mistaken him for a police officer.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: OnlyRegret on September 07, 2020, 02:11:21 PM
I can't comment anything of worth for this

https://twitter.com/AshAgony/status/1302451933425414146
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on September 07, 2020, 02:14:16 PM
antifa outta control  :trumps
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 07, 2020, 02:42:50 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/f4JdO9f.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on September 07, 2020, 02:45:17 PM
gender reveal started one of the big fires out here  :doge it was funnier when that happened outside my state  :doge
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on September 08, 2020, 01:16:39 PM
https://twitter.com/NickRiccardi/status/1303368851472691201 (https://twitter.com/NickRiccardi/status/1303368851472691201)

Gender reveal parties literally making the planet inhabitable you hate to see it
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 08, 2020, 03:15:25 PM
I was just at a gender reveal party yesterday (really) :yikes

lmao breeders :neogaf
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 08, 2020, 06:56:42 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/ioyntd/oregon_wildfires_making_it_look_straight/

(https://preview.redd.it/c4d2tvxsryl51.jpg?width=576&auto=webp&s=77baa868e9da710516a77a2726a4f44b9e16214e)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on September 08, 2020, 07:19:06 PM
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1303470385661382660 (https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1303470385661382660)

 :notlikethis
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jorma on September 09, 2020, 01:33:02 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/ioyntd/oregon_wildfires_making_it_look_straight/

(https://preview.redd.it/c4d2tvxsryl51.jpg?width=576&auto=webp&s=77baa868e9da710516a77a2726a4f44b9e16214e)

birth of Satan reveal party right there
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 09, 2020, 09:21:16 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj64yizXhMw

 :killme
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 09, 2020, 01:15:15 PM
https://www.cp24.com/news/south-etobicoke-shootout-involved-more-than-80-gunshots-police-1.5097370

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A massive gunfight that left one man seriously injured in Etobicoke's New Toronto area on Tuesday morning involved at least 80 shots fired and occurred outside a new nearby booze can that was rented for a gender reveal party the previous night.

This needs to end.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 09, 2020, 01:28:21 PM
Only since I moved here. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 09, 2020, 01:38:54 PM
He's revealed so many genders, you wouldn't believe.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: james on September 09, 2020, 01:46:31 PM
https://twitter.com/mithrilmaker/status/1303715600963792896
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on September 09, 2020, 02:18:36 PM
https://twitter.com/mithrilmaker/status/1303715600963792896

Narrator: In Donald Trump's America even the sky is on brand

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: EchoRin on September 09, 2020, 02:21:35 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/ioyntd/oregon_wildfires_making_it_look_straight/

(https://preview.redd.it/c4d2tvxsryl51.jpg?width=576&auto=webp&s=77baa868e9da710516a77a2726a4f44b9e16214e)

RESIDENT

EVIL

FOUR!!
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on September 09, 2020, 03:23:12 PM
wtf is a booze can

Riotous’s dong
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: james on September 09, 2020, 08:55:35 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/humofthecity/status/1303829765216903168
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tripon on September 11, 2020, 12:46:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUrHmLNm9hU

Is the world burning thread went from protests to the Western U.S. literally being on fire.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 11, 2020, 12:47:35 PM
Thought it started with Australia being on fire
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 11, 2020, 01:12:54 PM
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/austin-texas-defund-police-billboard-i-35/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=99367475


Texas police group puts up billboard warning "enter at your own risk," saying Austin defunded police
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 12, 2020, 03:01:24 AM
https://twitter.com/manymanywords/status/1303811746000515072
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on September 12, 2020, 07:12:04 AM
People always wonder what the end of the world looks like and they expect some big event like you see in the movies.

But in reality it's just people loitering about, wondering what happened and slowly dying off one by one.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on September 13, 2020, 03:35:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hESunUuFrzk


(https://i.imgur.com/a9aXgFK.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Mandark on September 23, 2020, 01:28:41 PM
One officer being charged in the Breonna Taylor shooting. Not sure what the charges are yet.

edit: the charges are pretty low-level and come from firing shots into the apartment next to Taylor's.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Steve Contra on September 23, 2020, 01:56:45 PM
Welp *flips over table*
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cryo on September 23, 2020, 04:24:46 PM
Expected nothing and still managed to be disappointed
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on September 25, 2020, 12:18:56 PM
I guess this type of stuff is just common now. :fbm

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-09-24/breonna-taylor-hollywood-protest

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A truck drove through a group of protesters in Hollywood on Thursday night, striking at least one person as it sped through the crowd, according to the police and news footage from the scene.

Demonstrators had gathered at 7 p.m. at Hollywood Forever Cemetery before marching through the streets of Hollywood.

Haven't seen it posted anywhere.

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 06, 2020, 09:57:09 AM
https://www.fox4news.com/news/wolfe-city-police-officer-arrested-charged-with-jonathan-prices-murder
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 30, 2020, 08:18:25 AM
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/breonna-taylor-boyfriend-kenneth-walker-sued-by-louisville-police-sgt-jonathan-mattingly-for-emotional-distress-2020-10-29/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: jorma on October 30, 2020, 10:57:45 AM
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/breonna-taylor-boyfriend-kenneth-walker-sued-by-louisville-police-sgt-jonathan-mattingly-for-emotional-distress-2020-10-29/

His lawyer isn't pulling the punches  :mynicca

Quote
"Even the most basic understanding of Kentucky's 'Stand Your Ground' law and the 'Castle Doctrine' evidences this fact. One would think that breaking into the apartment, executing his girlfriend and framing him for a crime in an effort to cover up her murder would be enough for them," he added. "Yet this baseless attempt to further victimize and harass Kenny indicates otherwise."

Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 30, 2020, 11:07:01 AM
Reddit comments said this was a good thing as it opens him up for a counter suit. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on October 30, 2020, 11:16:30 AM
lol dumbtous doesn’t get his legal advice from reddit  :girlaff
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Rufus on October 30, 2020, 11:53:46 AM
Reddit comments said this was a good thing as it opens him up for a counter suit.

Sounds like some reddit nonsense to me.
https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/jkr7p4/louisville_police_officer_sues_kenneth_walker/gakzhm4/

Sounds plausible, but IANAL, obviously.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on October 30, 2020, 02:21:47 PM
Reddit comments said this was a good thing as it opens him up for a counter suit.

Sounds like some reddit nonsense to me.
https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/jkr7p4/louisville_police_officer_sues_kenneth_walker/gakzhm4/

Sounds plausible, but IANAL, obviously.
:drool
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on February 12, 2021, 09:38:01 AM
Charges dropped against Buffalo, N.Y., officers seen on video shoving elderly activist to the ground

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/buffalo-activist-shoved-officers-charges-dropped-1.5911287
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on February 12, 2021, 04:56:25 PM
Charges dropped against Buffalo, N.Y., officers seen on video shoving elderly activist to the ground

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/buffalo-activist-shoved-officers-charges-dropped-1.5911287
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"When I go to trial, though, I need beyond a reasonable doubt. At this point right now, it's 50/50 in my mind as to whether or not it was intentional or reckless.
What does this mean? How could the shoving in the video NOT be intentional?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on February 12, 2021, 07:03:47 PM
I think he's saying he doesn't think he can prove the officer intended to push him so hard that he'd fall over, or that the shove was reckless enough that you'd assume something like that would have happened.

Police shouldn't be shoving people in the first place though (or forcing people to protest by killing people).
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Don Rumata on February 12, 2021, 07:20:35 PM
The eventuality of falling over (and hitting one's head) surely is implied in the action of pushing someone? It's not as bad directly smashing their head on the pavement, but it's the very reason why you shouldn't go around pushing people (without cause, like in this case) in the first place.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on February 12, 2021, 07:51:05 PM
Legally they had the right to attempt to move protesters because a curfew was in effect. I definitely don't think they expected him to lose his footing like that and fall over, they probably underestimated how old he was because he's tall and the mask was covering his face. I can see why they dropped the charges even if I personally think that crowd-control units being deployed against peaceful protesters is evil. I don't think i'll ever understand what compels a cop to opt in to something like that.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 09, 2021, 10:58:32 AM
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-us-canada-56301793

Quote
What have potential jurors been asked about?

Lawyers are now questioning the first prospective juror about her answers to the questionnaire.

She is asked whether she formed an opinion over the video of Floyd's arrest - she says yes, adding, "we're just humans...he said he can't breathe".

"Would you be willing to change that opinion if you find other information out later?" the attorney asks.

She takes a deep breath and says: "Yes."

Here's a look at some of the other key questions the jury pool was asked.

    What do you know - any and all details - about this case from media reports?
    Have you ever talked about George Floyd’s death with your family, friends, or co-workers, or discussed it online, for example, on social media?
    Did you, or someone close to you, participate in any of the demonstrations or marches against police brutality that took place in Minneapolis after George Floyd’s death? If so, did you carry a sign?
    How favorable or unfavorable are you about Blue Lives Matter?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 09, 2021, 12:16:52 PM
Quote
Juror One has been dismissed

After some discussions between attorneys, Juror One has been dismissed.

A nursing assistant from Mexico, she explained her initial response to receiving the pre-trial questionnaire for potential jurors was: "Why me?"

After she expressed concern about her fluency in English, Chauvin's attorney Eric Nelson asked a series of questions about her proficiency, sometimes needing to rephrase or repeat what he meant.

She also told the defence that she solicited the help of her husband and translation tools to fill out the questionnaire.

The exchange convinced the defence to dismiss the woman "primarily based on language proficiency".

Announcing the decision, Judge Cahill noted it was not really about the language.

"It was more that she's not a sophisticated juror... given that there was some concern about lack of understanding of legal terms."

Quote
Juror Two says he has not seen the Floyd video

The graphic video of George Floyd's death is in part why this case became such a talking point even outside the US. But the second prospective juror says he hasn't seen this footage.

"I don't go out of my way to watch visual things," he explains.

He adds that as the video will likely be played during the trial, he was willing to place the "importance of that duty over my personal comfort".

Defence attorney Nelson has also been pushing the juror on his answers to the pre-trial questionnaire - specifically, his apparent support for Black Lives Matter.

The prospective juror clarifies that he supports the Black Lives Matter movement but believes the Black Lives Matter organisation is "too extreme".

Quote
Prospective Juror Two has been selected as the first official member of the jury.

This is not going to go well
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on March 09, 2021, 12:21:49 PM
"I don't go out of my way to watch visual things," :trumps
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 09, 2021, 12:46:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhm0cBiSF6Y
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: G The Resurrected on March 09, 2021, 01:19:31 PM
The jujitsu knowledge being considered a biases was something else. When a fact is a fact but it’s being called a bias...
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 09, 2021, 01:25:40 PM
This current guy - old Christian very scared for his safety for being on this case and having a protest outside - no concern for his safety due to COVID.

edit:  doesn't believe in institutionalized racism - strongly agree that the police treat whites and blacks equal  - media exaggerates the problem - 'I've done some research on BLM ... I have some misgivings'.  Favourable to Blue Lives Matter.

edit: The prosecution tried to bate him into disqualifying himself, didn't work

strongly agrees that 'it's not right to second guess police officers'
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Tasty on March 09, 2021, 01:28:45 PM
"I don't go out of my way to watch visual things," :trumps

I've only seen a few seconds of a short clip, not the full thing either. :trumps Watching someone die for real is an extreme disincentive for me to watch anything.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 09, 2021, 02:51:36 PM
I wish I knew more about how jury selection worked.  Watching Law and Order (both original and SVU) has not prepared me for this.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 09, 2021, 03:45:13 PM
Another old white guy who is scared to be a juror as he might be 'targeted by certain organizations'
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 10, 2021, 11:20:38 AM
Old Women 'I wish they would just call it All Lives Matter - black lives matter - blue lives matter'
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on March 10, 2021, 04:47:10 PM
"I don't go out of my way to watch visual things," :trumps

They probably said, (or meant to say) "visceral".
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 10, 2021, 05:52:17 PM
Watched it today too.  Feels like any potential juror with any kind of left-lean that they don't weasel out of like, 'I support BLM but they go too far' gets striked.  Also got really angry when the defense asked the last one that if having political beliefs about defunding the police would make him feel like he's 'walking into the lion's den' by being on the jury.

I'd be really surprised if Chauvin gets more than whatever the least charge is.  And seeing the jury, I have no faith in the others getting found guilty. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on March 10, 2021, 07:18:36 PM
The prosecution gets the same amount of peremptory challenges as the defence, so it's not like it's stacked in any side's favor. And besides, do you really think a BLM supporter can be impartial? It's hard enough for the average person to be impartial, knowing that if they don't vote to convict there's going to be riots in the street.

As an aside- I was chosen for a jury duty and was challenged by the prosecution. My friend teaches law and by pure coincidence one of the lawyers on the prosecution was at a party he invited me to, so I asked her why I was rejected and she said I looked "too liberal". Which is a polite way of saying she didn't trust that I was smart enough to vote to convict because I had shoulder-length hair.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on March 10, 2021, 10:54:41 PM
Watched it today too.  Feels like any potential juror with any kind of left-lean that they don't weasel out of like, 'I support BLM but they go too far' gets striked.  Also got really angry when the defense asked the last one that if having political beliefs about defunding the police would make him feel like he's 'walking into the lion's den' by being on the jury.

I'd be really surprised if Chauvin gets more than whatever the least charge is.  And seeing the jury, I have no faith in the others getting found guilty.

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I wish I knew more about how jury selection worked.

Why get heated if you don’t know about the jury selection.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 11, 2021, 12:26:33 PM
Listening again today.  Basically, only white men answer are the ones saying that they feared for their safety upon finding out which trial it is.  Just listening to it, the language used and how answers are received also is very much geared to short, direct and succinct answers, which also selects for race and gender, where the old white people tend to give more answers in absolutes where others tend to hedge their answers.  How they describe the videos also selects for this, where the white people describe it in neutral language, mostly it seems because they are writing as if they are writing an office report instead of say talking to a friend. 

Watched it today too.  Feels like any potential juror with any kind of left-lean that they don't weasel out of like, 'I support BLM but they go too far' gets striked.  Also got really angry when the defense asked the last one that if having political beliefs about defunding the police would make him feel like he's 'walking into the lion's den' by being on the jury.

I'd be really surprised if Chauvin gets more than whatever the least charge is.  And seeing the jury, I have no faith in the others getting found guilty.

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I wish I knew more about how jury selection worked.

Why get heated if you don’t know about the jury selection.

Wishing to know more does not imply not knowing anything, at least for me.  Also, you do not need to know everything about a process to feel like it is flawed.

The prosecution gets the same amount of peremptory challenges as the defence
 

No, I believe its 9 and 15

And besides, do you really think a BLM supporter can be impartial? It's hard enough for the average person to be impartial, knowing that if they don't vote to convict there's going to be riots in the street.

Yes as far as anyone can actually be impartial.  If you are selecting by asking about BLM, you might as well be asking if they watch Fox news or voted Trump, both of which would be wrong.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 11, 2021, 12:47:54 PM
'Would you hold the testimony of a police officer higher than a bystander solely due to his position of a police officer'
'No.  For me, I think would be how it's said.  It would be more like how they talk, like if they talk with conviction or more confidence'

:dead

Then prosecution asks:

'If you ask a police officer for directions and he says this way and a bystander says no its the other way

... ' Ummmm, wellllllll'

:dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Uncle on March 11, 2021, 01:55:06 PM
I would tend to assume the officer drives these streets every day for a living, I know fuck all about the bystander

if the bystander literally contradicted the officer to his face I listen to the two of them argue about it first
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 11, 2021, 02:05:35 PM
Ya it's a reasonable thing to trust police over others given the situation, it was more how it played out that was funny and watching the guy struggle to come up with an answer that doesn't discredit what he just said about being neutral about cops. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on March 11, 2021, 03:58:01 PM
Still, being able to eject 9 people with Hitler youth haircuts is gonna go a long way for the prosecution.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Boredfrom on March 12, 2021, 02:59:53 AM
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Wishing to know more does not imply not knowing anything, at least for me.  Also, you do not need to know everything about a process to feel like it is flawed.

 :mike

That can be a pretty Trumpian idea but you are not totally wrong about that, but I also think it would be unhealthy to give opinions and hot takes.

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Yes as far as anyone can actually be impartial.  If you are selecting by asking about BLM, you might as well be asking if they watch Fox news or voted Trump, both of which would be wrong.

See, I think is reasonable to kick someone from jury duty for watching Fox News at this point in life. I also sure as hell I will okay to with kicking out the DefundThePolice guys even If I think the Cop is a scumbag that needs to be jailed.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: team filler on March 12, 2021, 02:21:12 PM
https://twitter.com/MrErnestOwens/status/1370450670147547139
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 27, 2021, 01:26:16 PM
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/st-louis-police-officers-on-trial-for-beating-black-undercover-detective/
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 11, 2021, 10:16:21 PM
https://www.languagejones.com/blog-1/2021/4/11/i-ate-too-many-drugs-are-you-kidding-me
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 12, 2021, 05:57:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJMUqs999ss

Daunte Wright killing.  Video is about 7 mins in

edit:  the questing is brutal. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: G The Resurrected on April 12, 2021, 06:34:55 PM
How that officer didn’t know she wasn’t using her Taser instead of a heavier Glock is fucking insane.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Coffee Dog on April 12, 2021, 06:40:29 PM
Pulled over for expired tags. Warrant was for an unpaid fine for weed possession. He was fleeing. That weapons were involved at all at any step during this process is disgusting.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 12, 2021, 06:47:45 PM
One of the reporters talked about how everyone is having problems right now getting tags renewed too. 

Unlike Floyd's killing, this is more clear-cut and indefensible, so hopefully, it doesn't lead to what happened last year, but I guess that depends on how the city handles the protests.  Chauvin's trial should end next week, which is also going to make things intense. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on April 12, 2021, 07:10:18 PM
Looking at the footage that gun wasn't accidentally equipped and if you can't tell your taser from your gun you have no business having a gun in the first place.  :doge
The excuse that this was somehow a 'mix up' is absolute horse shit.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 12, 2021, 07:17:08 PM
Nothing.  I meant that not even the police department or conservatives will be able to defend this one.  Hence there might not be a departmental/rightwing pushback and hence less reason to protest in the same way as last year.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 12, 2021, 07:38:48 PM
That's now but not then.   A large part of the initial outrage was that the department downplayed the event until the video went viral and they were only fired after the video.  It took a few days for Chauvin to be charged and it took nearly a week for the other officers to be charged.  Compare that with today's press conference where they showed the video first thing and basically said she was fired.   
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on April 12, 2021, 07:52:03 PM
Nothing.  I meant that not even the police department or conservatives will be able to defend this one.  Hence there might not be a departmental/rightwing pushback and hence less reason to protest in the same way as last year.

She said she thought it was her Taser. Good enough for me. #beliveallwomen
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: james on April 12, 2021, 08:59:36 PM
Wait they let women be police now?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: BIONIC on April 12, 2021, 09:24:28 PM
 :riot
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Nintex on April 13, 2021, 05:07:37 AM
Wait they let women be police now?
Women that shoot unarmed black men over a bag of weed

Progress
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 13, 2021, 03:08:02 PM
The defense witness right, Barry Brodd, now is total scum.  Says he doesn't consider putting a knee on a proned person a use of force.  Also a lot of talk about excited delirium and superhuman strength.  Shit is so dumb. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 13, 2021, 03:23:22 PM
Chauvin was not on top of Floyd because Barry Brodd thinks being on top of means laying down on top of  :dead
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 13, 2021, 04:02:19 PM
"Struggling or writhing because he can't breath?" "I don't know the difference"
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 14, 2021, 12:29:17 PM
Chauvin's defense has spent like 20 mins talking about how carbon monoxide from having his face next to the car's exhaust might have contributed to his death. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Rufus on April 14, 2021, 02:11:57 PM
Low, but also an own goal, no?
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 14, 2021, 02:53:51 PM
Should be but I don't think they can ask him if Chauven is then responsible for putting him in a dangerous situation. 
Also turns out that he has no evidence that the car (which was a hybrid) was even on, other than the expert seeing some water droplets on the tailpipe. 


The same guy also highly suggested but 'never stated' that a white object in Floyd's mouth was a pill.  Store video clearly shows its gum. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on May 14, 2021, 01:51:27 PM
And now the fire has been extinguished!

https://mobile.twitter.com/wapplehouse/status/1393191684251570176
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 14, 2021, 02:44:29 PM
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Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 25, 2021, 03:12:37 PM
I didn't realize the defense got victim statements or whatever they are called for that side. "when you sentence my son you will also be sentencing me"  fuck off.   
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on June 25, 2021, 03:40:35 PM
It’s a bold move to continue to act like a victim in your sentencing hearing. Should have not had any statements if he wasn’t going to accept blame for Floyd’s death.
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 25, 2021, 03:57:15 PM
22.5 years.  Really not enough, but it's way better than the outcome I thought would happen at the start of the whole trial. 
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 26, 2021, 08:44:41 AM
22 years of being someones prag :hump
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: Transhuman on June 26, 2021, 11:11:38 AM
Seems excessive given the average for second degree is like ~15 years?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z9yco3V-H8
Title: Re: Is the world burning?
Post by: chronovore on June 27, 2021, 10:55:13 PM
Seems excessive given the average for second degree is like ~15 years?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z9yco3V-H8

One of their notably underrated films. Fantastic.