THE BORE

General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 03:19:33 PM

Title: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 03:19:33 PM
Finally it's time! The Playstation 5 unveiling will be livestreamed in about 45 minutes! Here come some stolen gifs!

(https://i.imgur.com/nK7zmoX.gif)
(https://i.imgur.com/1LnzyYF.gif)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/403373256163196938/705871683919020032/NEW_era_PS5_specs_fix.png)

Stream is live on Twitch at : https://www.twitch.tv/playstation
And Youtube :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuLci-lSeCo&feature=emb_title

Pretty excited, could be great. I hope it will be great! This will hopefully be a chance at some REAL next gen GAMEPLAY, unlike that shitty Xbox Event.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2020, 03:22:15 PM
$599 US Dollars is the free space on my PS5 Reveal Bingo card.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 03:31:11 PM
I mean..Could they really go with THAT number again? The number that got them laughed at?

Maybe they'll do a 549$ that's my bet.

Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 11, 2020, 03:31:50 PM
399 calling it now.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Akala on June 11, 2020, 03:41:15 PM
I think $499 is probably my ceiling.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 03:42:51 PM
500 euro's is a lot of money, but 600 is more.

It's going to depend on my financial situation if I'll buy one at launch. I did with PS4 and there were barely any good games to play. But I did get in PS+ from the beginning so I got some good ones.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 11, 2020, 03:43:02 PM
Just waiting to see sequel to game you already like. Gonna be great.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: El Babua on June 11, 2020, 03:45:18 PM
Just want to see Bloodborne @ 60 fps
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 11, 2020, 03:46:16 PM
pls no kojimmy silent hills
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 11, 2020, 03:46:44 PM
Just want to see Bloodborne @ 60 fps

and without chromatic aberration PLEASE. It actually gives me a headache, my brain hates it.

500 euro's is a lot of money, but 600 is more.

yes
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: tiesto on June 11, 2020, 03:47:30 PM
$500

Here's hoping we get some interesting Japanese 3rd party announcements. I think I'm barking up the wrong tree with that and will have to wait till the online-only TGS this year.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 03:48:17 PM
Still not sure I believe the Bloodborne PC rumor, but give Bloodborne 2 please.

And Demon Souls remastered (with unlocked 6 archstone) from Blue Balls Entertainment
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 11, 2020, 03:48:52 PM
549

the truth is usually somewhere in the middle lads.

#boogiegameawards
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 11, 2020, 03:49:48 PM
HZD2, GT7, Spiderman 2, Dad of War 2, Bloodborne 2, SH reboot, launch titles let's go.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: eleuin on June 11, 2020, 03:50:43 PM
get those applications for a second job ready boys
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: BisMarckie on June 11, 2020, 03:51:55 PM
Will be the first Playstation I won‘t buy at launch. My PS4 backlog is just too immense and it looks like Xbox will be the better choice for third party stuff.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: El Babua on June 11, 2020, 03:53:08 PM
Yo these music tracks on the stream slaps
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 11, 2020, 03:55:44 PM
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/8miYQYfpol1qU/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47bd1e0a79f169eb367a1532d804af76fb0f3d0ea0&rid=giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Positive Touch on June 11, 2020, 04:00:59 PM
i'm fully expecting the base price of games to be $70 or $80. it's been 60 for what, 15 years now?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 11, 2020, 04:04:20 PM
2 gen old game as opening   :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Tasty on June 11, 2020, 04:04:45 PM
THE FUTURE OF GAMING

IS THE PAST
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 11, 2020, 04:04:54 PM
:neogaf
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on June 11, 2020, 04:05:06 PM
This clip show episode sucks.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: mormapope on June 11, 2020, 04:06:03 PM
 :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 11, 2020, 04:06:19 PM
GTA Online free!! Wow!!!
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 11, 2020, 04:06:28 PM
GTAV has not sold enough we need MOAR
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: eleuin on June 11, 2020, 04:06:59 PM
 :money

it prints money yall
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 11, 2020, 04:07:15 PM
Prediction: no price or console reveal today
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 11, 2020, 04:07:58 PM
more spoderman
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 11, 2020, 04:08:36 PM
Shcreieieier annihilated
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 11, 2020, 04:08:51 PM
Gran Turisnooooooooore
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Akala on June 11, 2020, 04:08:58 PM
Choooo
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Positive Touch on June 11, 2020, 04:10:42 PM
lol at the Asphalt looking interface for GT
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: mormapope on June 11, 2020, 04:11:14 PM
I don't want Sarah, I want a hot Japanese chick with double Ds pls
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 11, 2020, 04:12:46 PM
How can that GT map look so shit :s
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 11, 2020, 04:12:50 PM
Insomniac trash for sure.

Gran Turismo though, cummy.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 11, 2020, 04:15:10 PM
FINALLY. A GIRLFRIEND FOR RACHET TO FUCK.

I'd expect this kind of furry-pandering from Sega, not Sony. :scust
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nuitangg on June 11, 2020, 04:15:14 PM
Ratchet  :snore
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 11, 2020, 04:15:41 PM
How can the compression be this shit even on twitch sony pls

anyway insomniac trash company
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 04:16:14 PM
How can the compression be this shit even on twitch sony pls

Yeah its terrible on Youtube too

Games look great (as far as I can see with all this compression omg)

Its better on Twitch I see, ill keep that one going
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Positive Touch on June 11, 2020, 04:16:37 PM
i still get amazed that new games basically look like playable CG movies. the level of detail and the quality of the animations in stuff like this is unreal.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 11, 2020, 04:17:18 PM
How can the compression be this shit even on twitch sony pls

anyway insomniac trash company

When u only have 9tf you gotta hide behind something
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 11, 2020, 04:18:06 PM
Ok this looks kinda dope
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Positive Touch on June 11, 2020, 04:18:35 PM
...that's it for the SE title? 2022 release then
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 11, 2020, 04:18:49 PM
Cool, a new S-E games that won't come out for another decade!
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: El Babua on June 11, 2020, 04:18:52 PM
Deep Down pt 2
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 11, 2020, 04:19:02 PM
Designed exclusively

That wording

Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 11, 2020, 04:19:56 PM
benji simulator 2020
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 11, 2020, 04:20:47 PM
benji simulator 2020

We gonna get to dox people f'real? I'm in
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Positive Touch on June 11, 2020, 04:21:52 PM
i want the cat game i hope you can customize its fur
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 11, 2020, 04:21:54 PM
#dutchdirectness
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Tasty on June 11, 2020, 04:21:59 PM
How can that GT map look so shit :s

For real how is it Nintendo EPD is pulling off classier and more modern game UIs than Polyphony Digital?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 11, 2020, 04:22:30 PM
Housemarque :noah
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 04:22:37 PM
Nice accent Hermen
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2020, 04:24:25 PM
This has been great so far.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 11, 2020, 04:24:40 PM
RETURNAL, GET IT BRO

THE KIDS ARE GONNA EAT THIS SHIT UP BRO

YOU WANT SOME MORE BLOW OR WHAT
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: mormapope on June 11, 2020, 04:25:08 PM
Returnal is my favorite Paulie Shore movie
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 11, 2020, 04:25:48 PM
SM64 killer :lawd
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Positive Touch on June 11, 2020, 04:26:01 PM
that not-Aliens game had great imagery but the gameplay looked like a plain TPS
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Beezy on June 11, 2020, 04:26:10 PM
This is cute
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 11, 2020, 04:28:02 PM
WTF is this :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 04:28:18 PM
Destruction Derby? Thats dope

Now show GTA V PS5 footage
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 11, 2020, 04:28:26 PM
Demolition Derby ?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 11, 2020, 04:28:43 PM
Demolition Derby games looks fun, except for the Not-Fortnite artstyle. Yuck.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 11, 2020, 04:29:43 PM
that rocket league game directed by cliffy b and david jaffe was the worst thing ive ever seen
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 04:29:44 PM
Now this is cute
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2020, 04:30:37 PM
kideo games
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 11, 2020, 04:31:02 PM
Sony does what Nintendon't. Zelda with a female main character :lawd
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 04:31:12 PM
Now this looks next gen my kinda shit
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: eleuin on June 11, 2020, 04:31:13 PM
kena looks dope

like e10 overlord
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Akala on June 11, 2020, 04:31:25 PM
Dope
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: mormapope on June 11, 2020, 04:31:33 PM
Horizon x Zelda it looks like
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 11, 2020, 04:31:41 PM
Sony. Official FURRY SYSTEM
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 04:31:53 PM
Strange Sony would show off a game where little black creatures are used as slaves and lemmings in todays climate.

They are like Pikmin
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Beezy on June 11, 2020, 04:32:09 PM
Oh god, furries
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2020, 04:32:21 PM
scalie time :lawd
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 04:32:22 PM
Sony. Official FURRY SYSTEM

OHH FFSS FURRY ARE INVADING REALITY
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: stufte on June 11, 2020, 04:32:33 PM
oh sweet, an angsty tumblr furry game.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 04:32:45 PM
#nomorefurries
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 11, 2020, 04:32:48 PM
What in the actual fuck is this :brazilcry
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 11, 2020, 04:32:51 PM
HEY DOG YOU KIDS LIKE FURRIES AND HATE HIGH SCHOOL AMIRITE

WHAT IF WE COMBINE EM

ALSO DO YOU WANT SOME BLOW
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2020, 04:33:24 PM
lmao, dinosaur high school sim right before the meteor hits :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 11, 2020, 04:33:30 PM
Lorne FUCKING Lanning  :whew
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 04:33:34 PM
LORNE LANNING  :gladbron :gladbron :gladbron :gladbron
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: stufte on June 11, 2020, 04:34:29 PM
did that oddworld dude just say holy fuck?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2020, 04:34:49 PM
Holy shit!
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Positive Touch on June 11, 2020, 04:35:05 PM
MIKAMIIIIIIIIII
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: stufte on June 11, 2020, 04:35:11 PM
yah this is a legit oddworld game. I'm pretty stoked.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 11, 2020, 04:35:16 PM
Oh no, Shinji Mikami, Andrex gonna get a boner
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 04:35:25 PM
Wish it was more a 3d world like Strangers Wrath but this looks dope too
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2020, 04:35:50 PM
Shinji, get in the fucking PS5! :lawd
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: stufte on June 11, 2020, 04:36:08 PM
Wish it was more a 3d world like Strangers Wrath but this looks dope too

Wrong. Stop talking.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 11, 2020, 04:36:56 PM
GHOST FPS
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 04:37:06 PM
OHH SHIT THIS LOOKS GOOD
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: mormapope on June 11, 2020, 04:37:10 PM
Ehhhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Beezy on June 11, 2020, 04:37:16 PM
First Person Bruja
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 04:37:57 PM
Wish it was more a 3d world like Strangers Wrath but this looks dope too

Wrong. Stop talking.

Hey Strangers Wrath is really good and the world is really well made in that game.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2020, 04:37:59 PM
mmm...I dunno about that one
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 11, 2020, 04:38:21 PM
Wow so disappointing from Mikami

Those enemies

That combat

:(
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Tasty on June 11, 2020, 04:38:27 PM
MIKAMI DOES IT AGAIN I'M CUMMING YESSS
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 11, 2020, 04:38:33 PM
This shidd looks like a steam game made by ten Czech guys..... Japanjank has finally come full circle with eurojank

:whew
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: eleuin on June 11, 2020, 04:39:21 PM
ghostwire seems low budget but lots of interesting ideas
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: mormapope on June 11, 2020, 04:39:44 PM
Ghostwire looked like Red Steel without the gusto of motion control gimmicks. Straight up a jank FPS from 2006ish.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: stufte on June 11, 2020, 04:39:53 PM
No mans sky redux
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: mormapope on June 11, 2020, 04:40:43 PM
Hey guys.

This event sucks dick.

It's been absolutely fantastic. The three PS5 exclusives shown thus far are indeed, videogames.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2020, 04:40:46 PM
Gearbox :notlikethis
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: eleuin on June 11, 2020, 04:41:03 PM
don't think it's possible to market this game worse
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 11, 2020, 04:41:33 PM
Man i wasted my evening free time on this

Could have been playing Gears 5  :'(
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: stufte on June 11, 2020, 04:41:54 PM
that trailer felt like 2013 era bullshit.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 11, 2020, 04:42:06 PM
BAD RAP MUSIC MADE FOR YOUTUBE INFLUNCER VIDEO INTROS.

THIS MESSAGE BROUGHT TO YOU BY CARL'S JR
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: mormapope on June 11, 2020, 04:42:21 PM
Randy Picthford's greatest magic trick is his studio surviving without Borderlands.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 11, 2020, 04:42:46 PM
Man i wasted my evening free time on this

Could have been playing Gears 5  :'(

No even tho this is shit, that would be worse

plz don't hate yourself like that
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 11, 2020, 04:43:10 PM
Solar Ash looks neat.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2020, 04:43:35 PM
like.....none of these games look better than PS4 games. How is this gonna convince anyone to shell out $500?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Tasty on June 11, 2020, 04:43:41 PM
https://twitter.com/RobotFaker_/status/1271157056419041283
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2020, 04:43:53 PM
You people are cynical as fuck.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: stufte on June 11, 2020, 04:44:01 PM
ioi yes plz, feed me daddy.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: stufte on June 11, 2020, 04:44:58 PM
HITMANNNNNNN!
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 11, 2020, 04:45:04 PM
You people are cynical as fuck.

Dunno what to tell you, just haven't seen anything so far that makes me wanna run out and drop $600 on a PS5.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: eleuin on June 11, 2020, 04:45:35 PM
this location is A1
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2020, 04:45:41 PM
Hitman 3 looking pretty sweet
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: stufte on June 11, 2020, 04:46:30 PM
oh look, a game NO ONE wanted.

Sony trotting out all the mascot wannabe games.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 11, 2020, 04:46:49 PM
Uhm
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 11, 2020, 04:46:53 PM
Things that looked interesing or good so far: Gran Turismo. Hitman 3. That game from hyper light drifter guy.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: mormapope on June 11, 2020, 04:46:54 PM
You people are cynical as fuck.

I'm actually excited for the new Xbox. I'm mainly in this thread to shitpost.

Unlike PS5 owners, I'll have game pass to play almost all the games in this show without buying any of them.  8)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 11, 2020, 04:47:05 PM
You people are cynical as fuck.

Dunno what to tell you, just haven't seen anything so far that makes me wanna run out and drop $600 on a PS5.

Sony saving us money!
:rejoice

Can't say anything is catching my eye here, either.  Nothing that would make me rush to buy one of these at launch.  Might be the first Sony hardware I don't get right away.  But all it takes is one game and maybe that's still to come.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2020, 04:48:05 PM
Not saying everything sucks sight unseen does not mean you have to “cum” at everything. There’s a simple middle ground. But I forgot this is the bore where everything is garbage and nothing can be ok.

Gamers are so annoying and obnoxious.

Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Tasty on June 11, 2020, 04:48:10 PM
You people are cynical as fuck.

Flash forward to Nintendo's presentation thread in a month:

Rahx: "All these games fucking suck and are boring. Why are you people so excited?"
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: stufte on June 11, 2020, 04:48:16 PM
bear ass shooting sim, finally.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Positive Touch on June 11, 2020, 04:48:22 PM
SCHMEAT
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2020, 04:48:55 PM
the old man just pooped
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 04:49:07 PM
This looks VERY cool
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: stufte on June 11, 2020, 04:49:13 PM
Yah this looks pretty fun.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Bebpo on June 11, 2020, 04:49:18 PM
Catching up on trailers now. Some good stuff.

All I care about GT7 is if it has a good single player campaign. I used to really like GT, but lost interest when the SP died and Forza's campaign was killing it. GTS is good enough for multiplayer focused GT, let GT7 be a good single player campaign.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2020, 04:49:37 PM
You people would bitch if it was also just “sad dad” games.

Just admit you’d never be pleased.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: stufte on June 11, 2020, 04:49:39 PM
SPORTSBALL 2020
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: eleuin on June 11, 2020, 04:49:43 PM
buy consoles at release brehs  :heh
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: stufte on June 11, 2020, 04:50:22 PM
sweat shaders gonna sell ps5s
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2020, 04:50:52 PM
Zion Williamson's sweat particles shoot out of the PS5 in real-time
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 11, 2020, 04:51:11 PM
You people would bitch if it was also just “sad dad” games.

Just admit you’d never be pleased.

You're the one being negative here.  Stop.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Bebpo on June 11, 2020, 04:51:36 PM
I'm excited for the Spider-Man spinoff even though I still haven't played Spider-Man yet. I'm all for shorter/less filler&padding games and Miles is great.

I'll keep playing Ratchet, but the last one or two weren't great and were just following the Ratchet & Clank checklist. Hope this is a step back on track and innovative.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Beezy on June 11, 2020, 04:51:52 PM
Box Snacks?! :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 11, 2020, 04:51:53 PM
BRB need some LSD to appreciate this trailer.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2020, 04:51:55 PM
You people are cynical as fuck.

Flash forward to Nintendo's presentation thread in a month:

Rahx: "All these games fucking suck and are boring. Why are you people so excited?"
As someone with over 50 switch games and has been positive with Microsoft and Nintendo’s previous showings this is a lie.

But hey I can play this game too

Tasty Meat on games they never play: “insert stupid meme”
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2020, 04:52:06 PM
I'm not okay with this body horror kid's game.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nuitangg on June 11, 2020, 04:52:20 PM
About the only thing I get excited for is WoW expansions and Cod.  These type of events never really do anything for me.  Still preordering.  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: stufte on June 11, 2020, 04:52:21 PM
Bug Snax, game of the show.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: mormapope on June 11, 2020, 04:52:32 PM
.....a lot of these games are coming out on PS4, aren't they?  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 04:52:34 PM
This is just wrong
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Beezy on June 11, 2020, 04:52:45 PM
Box Snacks?! :lol
My bad, BugSnax :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 11, 2020, 04:52:53 PM
David Cronenberg's Island of Bugsnax
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 11, 2020, 04:53:23 PM
Shu :lawd
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2020, 04:53:56 PM
End of show, seriously  :doge

But first...one last reveal...
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 04:54:01 PM
DEMON SOULS????
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 04:54:25 PM
DEMON SOULS!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Coffee Dog on June 11, 2020, 04:54:46 PM
I laughed pretty hard when ratchet looked exactly the same but with a transparent gimmick meant to jerk off the SSD.  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 11, 2020, 04:55:01 PM
Demon Souls remake?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: stufte on June 11, 2020, 04:55:21 PM
This is the Demons Souls of video game reveals.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: wsippel on June 11, 2020, 04:55:30 PM
This is on Sony, but the "this will be the biggest generational leap ever" bullshit, while technically true (in absolute numbers), will bite them in the ass. Expected, of course - it's just a mid range PC after all. But yeah, so far, I'm kinda intrigued by Ghostwire Tokyo, and more Hitman is always nice. And Demon's Souls Remastered I guess.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 11, 2020, 04:55:36 PM
yay remake yay
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2020, 04:55:41 PM
wooo
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 11, 2020, 04:55:48 PM
DS2 nice!

Edit: its just a remake  :lol

Not saying everything sucks sight unseen does not mean you have to “cum” at everything. There’s a simple middle ground. But I forgot this is the bore where everything is garbage and nothing can be ok.

Gamers are so annoying and obnoxious.



Hey can you and the rest of the idiots that complain about this forum (even though it's been the same for over 15 years) start your own and circlejerk each-other over how we're cynical and have imaginary double standards?

How about u go kill yourself mate
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 04:56:09 PM
Rahx wtf u even talking about
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 11, 2020, 04:56:13 PM
I'll buy anything from Arkane.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 11, 2020, 04:56:14 PM
DS2 nice!

Not saying everything sucks sight unseen does not mean you have to “cum” at everything. There’s a simple middle ground. But I forgot this is the bore where everything is garbage and nothing can be ok.

Gamers are so annoying and obnoxious.



Hey can you and the rest of the idiots that complain about this forum (even though it's been the same for over 15 years) start your own and circlejerk each-other over how we're cynical and have imaginary double standards?

How about u go kill yourself mate

Play nice, kids.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Bebpo on June 11, 2020, 04:57:19 PM
That SE game says a lot about where teams are in development. FFXVI still not anywhere near close (who knows if it even has a full production budget on it yet), FFVIIr2 probably just getting started, KH4 hanging back in full production until FFVIIr wraps up most likely (though they'll make lower budget side games during the next decade). DQXII still a few years away and this arpg DQ thing is filling the gap.

Though I'd imagine Yoko Taro's new Nier game has to be getting closer to completion, but maybe they're waiting until the Nier 1 remake is out to announce and show that.

Coming from just playing 60 hours of FFXV over the last two weeks, the new SE game shown looks hella like FFXV based for the core gameplay combat/platforming/traversal engine.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2020, 04:57:37 PM
Not saying everything sucks sight unseen does not mean you have to “cum” at everything. There’s a simple middle ground. But I forgot this is the bore where everything is garbage and nothing can be ok.

Gamers are so annoying and obnoxious.



Hey can you and the rest of the idiots that complain about this forum (even though it's been the same for over 15 years) start your own and circlejerk each-other over how we're cynical and have imaginary double standards?
Nope.

I also retract my statements about your life being worth living.

I lied. It isnt
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 11, 2020, 04:57:41 PM
*sees cool game*

oh nice

*sees Bethesda logo*

oh no
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: stufte on June 11, 2020, 04:57:45 PM
yah this looks great. Love Arkane studios.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 04:57:58 PM
This is dope af
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2020, 04:58:05 PM
hey, you can't say motherfucker on the internet!
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Beezy on June 11, 2020, 04:58:36 PM
Gameplay wise Deathloop is my fav so far.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 11, 2020, 04:58:49 PM
*sees cool game*

oh nice

*sees Bethesda logo*

oh no

It's Arkane, my dude. They do great work.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2020, 04:59:06 PM
You people are cynical as fuck.

I like a small amount of games myself;  happy you like a variety, nothing cynical here... but I mostly play a few games a year that I can sink 100s of hours into and this all seems like mostly indie short games.

Curious what the Spiderman game actually is though.
I mean I’m only interested in Spider man and the SE Ip myself.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: eleuin on June 11, 2020, 04:59:34 PM
you play as both? that's cool
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 05:00:05 PM
SILENT HILL!
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: stufte on June 11, 2020, 05:00:21 PM
This better be silent hill.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 11, 2020, 05:00:49 PM
Silent Hill?

RE8?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 05:01:36 PM
Silent Hill its the sirens boiis

Im wrong its RE8
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 11, 2020, 05:01:52 PM
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YES
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 11, 2020, 05:02:13 PM
CAPGAWD SAVING THIS FUCKING SNOREFEST
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: stufte on June 11, 2020, 05:02:16 PM
ok so not silent hill, but I'm down for a new RE!
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2020, 05:02:25 PM
yisssss
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 05:02:31 PM
Re8 looks amazing
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: stufte on June 11, 2020, 05:02:37 PM
it's got some serious RE4 vibes.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 11, 2020, 05:02:37 PM
CAPGAWD SAVING THIS FUCKING SNOREFEST

Yeah, but it's not like this a PS5 only game.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2020, 05:03:14 PM
Not the Resident Evil I want.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 11, 2020, 05:03:22 PM
benji simulator 2021 too!
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2020, 05:03:31 PM
is this a strand-type game?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 11, 2020, 05:03:39 PM
RE8 looks dope


Not saying everything sucks sight unseen does not mean you have to “cum” at everything. There’s a simple middle ground. But I forgot this is the bore where everything is garbage and nothing can be ok.

Gamers are so annoying and obnoxious.



Hey can you and the rest of the idiots that complain about this forum (even though it's been the same for over 15 years) start your own and circlejerk each-other over how we're cynical and have imaginary double standards?

How about u go kill yourself mate

Maybe next week. I'll let you know when I do.

Zzzz boring
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: stufte on June 11, 2020, 05:04:44 PM
DEPLOY BUBBLE TAPE DEFENSE!
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 11, 2020, 05:04:56 PM
Tired if this Kojima shit. Dude sucks.

Capcom game, get fucked :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 11, 2020, 05:04:59 PM
Not the Resident Evil I want.

BUT THE ONE YOU DESERVE
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: eleuin on June 11, 2020, 05:05:38 PM
death stranding but good
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: team filler on June 11, 2020, 05:05:55 PM
 :zzz
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: stufte on June 11, 2020, 05:05:55 PM
ZERO DAWN 2!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 11, 2020, 05:06:23 PM
HORIZON INFINITE DAWN OR WHATEVER OK THIS IS COOL
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2020, 05:06:29 PM
Not the Resident Evil I want.
Why don't you stop being a cynical snowflake and open your mind
I will. I’ll play it and try it unlike most of you cynical fucks
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2020, 05:06:52 PM
next gen waiufs
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2020, 05:07:06 PM
Horizon 2. Fuck yes!
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 11, 2020, 05:07:33 PM
Horizon is the system-seller.  Don't care for it but that's gonna make people plunk down cash for day one.

Uh...assuming it's a launch title?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 11, 2020, 05:07:48 PM
:goldberg
Not the Resident Evil I want.
Why don't you stop being a cynical snowflake and open your mind
I will. I’ll play it and try it unlike most of you cynical fucks
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 11, 2020, 05:08:02 PM
Looks dope, but I gave up on Horizon after the first area
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 11, 2020, 05:08:15 PM
Robot Mammoths  :gladbron
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 05:08:43 PM
Can I fly one on those birds in this one or not

(this is day one for sure)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: stufte on June 11, 2020, 05:08:57 PM
I thought people said Horizon had very bad writing and mission structure?

Isn't it just a photomode game with cool designs and graphics?

lol no?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 05:09:05 PM
Lance Reddick is always some magical dude in video games :lol

He's a magical dude so yea
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 11, 2020, 05:09:09 PM
Horizon is the system-seller.  Don't care for it but that's gonna make people plunk down cash for day one.

Uh...assuming it's a launch title?

Didn't mention a release date, so probably not.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: demi on June 11, 2020, 05:09:36 PM
this whole stream has been a chore to watch, but resident evil and horizon saved it
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2020, 05:09:56 PM
Isn't it just a photomode game with cool designs and graphics?

Isn't that what buying launch titles for a next-gen console is all about? :lawd
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 11, 2020, 05:11:01 PM
Can't wait to buy a PS5 and play my PS4 games on it while waiting for good games
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Beezy on June 11, 2020, 05:11:11 PM
Da fuck
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2020, 05:11:35 PM
Alienware made the PS5?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 11, 2020, 05:11:52 PM
ugh look at that disgusting white piece of shit
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 11, 2020, 05:12:00 PM
Its a modem!
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Positive Touch on June 11, 2020, 05:12:05 PM
dammit i wasn't paying attention during the RE8 video where can i rewatch these
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 11, 2020, 05:12:20 PM
uggo
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: stufte on June 11, 2020, 05:12:25 PM
yah that design doesn't look like a final design, but somehow is...
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2020, 05:12:27 PM
Kinda looks like an Alienware PC, but I ain't even mad.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on June 11, 2020, 05:12:29 PM
Hopefully that design means the airflow is handled better and the console doesn’t sound like a vacuum when playing games.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 11, 2020, 05:12:33 PM
MULTIPLE SKUS BRO

THIS COKE IS SO FUCKING GOOD BRO
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 05:12:36 PM
Console looks very sleek

Also lmao at the xbox conference compared to this presentation
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 11, 2020, 05:12:41 PM
dammit i wasn't paying attention during the RE8 video where can i rewatch these

https://www.gematsu.com/
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2020, 05:13:01 PM
return of the tard pack :lawd
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Positive Touch on June 11, 2020, 05:13:09 PM
overall a great variety of games on display, nice show
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 11, 2020, 05:13:18 PM
I guess you can't whine that they made another boring black box.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 11, 2020, 05:13:25 PM
uh

price?


hello?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2020, 05:13:28 PM
This is going to be expensive isn’t it
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 11, 2020, 05:14:02 PM
overall a great variety of games on display, nice show

No RPGs = Instafail
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 11, 2020, 05:14:12 PM
Id buy a digital edition xbox cause of gamepass

Ps5? Never

Very bold move
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2020, 05:14:33 PM
uh

price?


hello?

$600, we out!
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: demi on June 11, 2020, 05:14:43 PM
no comments about BC?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 05:14:53 PM
No Silent Hill

Konami laughs in Pachinko
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2020, 05:14:56 PM
You people are cynical as fuck.

Flash forward to Nintendo's presentation thread in a month:

Rahx: "All these games fucking suck and are boring. Why are you people so excited?"
Tasty when Nintendo announces anything:

Please put in my mouth.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 11, 2020, 05:16:13 PM
You people are cynical as fuck.

Flash forward to Nintendo's presentation thread in a month:

Rahx: "All these games fucking suck and are boring. Why are you people so excited?"
Tasty when Nintendo announces anything:

Please put in my mouth.

 :snore :boring :snore :boring
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 05:17:06 PM
Backwards compatibility for physical media locked behind a higher priced SKU. lol.

You think it cant launch ps4 digital games?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2020, 05:17:09 PM
Backwards compatibility for physical media locked behind a higher priced SKU. lol.

maybe...but who knows???  :idont :idont
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: wsippel on June 11, 2020, 05:17:31 PM
Considering the basic specs between PS5 and XSX are basically the same, judging by the case design, I guess the XSX will be a bit faster.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: headwalk on June 11, 2020, 05:17:40 PM
i like the idea that there's a genuine standoff between MS and sony to announce price first after what happened last time out.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 11, 2020, 05:17:43 PM
Prediction: no price or console reveal today

Well, half right, but no release date reveal either

Since we're getting a gimped version with no disc drive I'm guessing $600 for the "regular" system and $500 for the digital, lulz

Also I will never own one of these fuckers if white is my only option, scust

Then again at $600 I won't own one period
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Bebpo on June 11, 2020, 05:17:46 PM
Guess it's a good time for me to hunker down and play Horizon this year!
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 11, 2020, 05:17:54 PM
Did they say anything about ff7 2 or not?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 11, 2020, 05:18:09 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/FiTQM2Z.jpg)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 11, 2020, 05:18:09 PM
Wow, I am so unimpressed with what they showed overall.  And that has never happened before.  There's always something -at least one game- that makes me go for the launch model, but so far...nope.  Will wait to see what more third-parties announce.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: eleuin on June 11, 2020, 05:18:09 PM
the way it's angled there better be no problems laying it on its side

also no all black sku wtf
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 05:18:20 PM
Can we add a poll how much better this was than the xbox showing

Oh wait no need it's going to be 100% PS5

 :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: brawndolicious on June 11, 2020, 05:18:25 PM
Did they announce a price?

Backwards compatibility for physical media locked behind a higher priced SKU. lol.

You think it cant launch ps4 digital games?

He means you'd have to rebuy games that you have a physical copy of.

So far, I really don't see anything amazing. The Spiderman game looked cool but it's not a system-seller to me (limited replayability)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: mormapope on June 11, 2020, 05:18:55 PM
Console looks very sleek

Also lmao at the xbox conference compared to this presentation

Bro this shit was "Inside PlayStation" in comparison, very similar shows.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Tasty on June 11, 2020, 05:18:57 PM
You people are cynical as fuck.

Flash forward to Nintendo's presentation thread in a month:

Rahx: "All these games fucking suck and are boring. Why are you people so excited?"
Tasty when Nintendo announces anything:

Please put in my mouth.

Not just Nintendo :asuka
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Svejk on June 11, 2020, 05:19:09 PM
Digital Edition  :rejoice :rejoice :rejoice
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Bebpo on June 11, 2020, 05:19:21 PM
Did they say anything about ff7 2 or not?

iirc, after part 1 came out like 2 months ago the team took a vacation as is usual after a game wraps and then they're starting from scratch on part 2. So maybe they like huddled around and had the first few team meetings a month ago. There is nothing to show at this point.

...but hopefully by re-using the engine/combat/etc... and just iterating they'll be able to pump part 2 out in a couple years.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: demi on June 11, 2020, 05:19:27 PM
I really don't think this was much different than Xbox's show earlier. I wanted info on this thing and got youtube trailers
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2020, 05:19:39 PM
1. Resident Evil VIII: Village
2. Horizon: Forbidden West
3. Oddworld Soulstorm
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 05:20:09 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/FiTQM2Z.jpg)

im stealing this
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: mormapope on June 11, 2020, 05:20:37 PM
I really don't think this was much different than Xbox's show earlier. I wanted info on this thing and got youtube trailers

This and the majority of games shown will be on other platforms,and current gen consoles as well.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 11, 2020, 05:20:59 PM
i like the idea that there's a genuine standoff between MS and sony to announce price first after what happened last time out.

With the increasing irrelevance of E3 (thank gawd) and RONA going on, there wasn't one single industry event they had to have a firm price by. They're gonna play chicken all the way to the end and fuck themselves, lol

My bet is they each launch the "premier" sku (series x for MS and non gimp for Sony) at $600, gimp versions at $500

At least MS isn't releasing a trash ass white console at launch this time, bless up for that
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Boredfrom on June 11, 2020, 05:21:04 PM
That was lame. Holy shit with trying to pass those indie games as something only possible next gen.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 05:21:23 PM
I really don't think this was much different than Xbox's show earlier. I wanted info on this thing and got youtube trailers

That's 100% true but at least we saw gameplay and some interesting games compared to the Xbox show imo
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 11, 2020, 05:21:55 PM
That was lame. Holy shit with trying to pass those indie games as something only possible next gen.

But the developers will finally be able to realize their vision!!
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Bebpo on June 11, 2020, 05:22:27 PM
Wow, I am so unimpressed with what they showed overall.  And that has never happened before.  There's always something -at least one game- that makes me go for the launch model, but so far...nope.  Will wait to see what more third-parties announce.

Eh, I have a gaming PC, nothing in console reveals is ever going to impress me on a visual level. The jumps just are not there anymore, everything is just sharper, more detailed, better draw distance and faster loading. Which is already the higher settings on PC versions.

Game-wise there were no real surprises but everything looked like solid follow ups to existing stuff by 1st parties. I think most 3rd party stuff is still another year or two out and in general the gaming industry is done with announcing CG teaser trailers of stuff that's 5-7 years away and year 1-2 of new systems is always a drizzle. Usually lineups don't start getting substantial until year 3.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Coffee Dog on June 11, 2020, 05:22:30 PM
They shouldn't have leaned into the biggest leap ever stuff at all. Spider-Man looked like an expansion pack and that was the only game I wanted to play aside from Deathloop.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nintex on June 11, 2020, 05:23:25 PM
It all looked very depressing for some reason. Not a lot of energy throughout the whole thing.
Even the way it was shot with the close-ups zoomed in a bit too much on the developers.

Make GTAV great again!
BLM Spider Man
Brrrr 7
Ratchet & Jank
Project 2024
Knack 2 baybe
Stranding Effect
Cuckboy
Zoomer League
Oni and the Will of the Legend of Star Fox Adventure
MY DEPRESSION IS A VIDEO GAME
Autistyworld Lemmings Automata
SUPER HOT WEEB
No Man's EDGE
Soul Calibur Legends 4K
Neon Genesis Skateboarding Pro
Hitman Impossible
Sonic Adventure 3 Sunshine
Monster Souls Twilight Snake Eater
NBA Plastic Man
Viva Pinata Crossing
Demon's Souls's
Bioshock Royale
Resident Evil not 4?
?
Horizon Climate Change
IKEA powered by ZOOM(tm)
Wait for the slim
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Boredfrom on June 11, 2020, 05:23:35 PM
Why the fuck that Dinasour game was there?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Svejk on June 11, 2020, 05:23:39 PM
Wow, I am so unimpressed with what they showed overall.  And that has never happened before.  There's always something -at least one game- that makes me go for the launch model, but so far...nope.  Will wait to see what more third-parties announce.
More impressive than what boner xx showed... not that that's saying much...  But I'm glad to see there's nothing I need at launch so far it seems.

But then again... what were you expecting?? 
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 05:23:49 PM
Wow, I am so unimpressed with what they showed overall.  And that has never happened before.  There's always something -at least one game- that makes me go for the launch model, but so far...nope.  Will wait to see what more third-parties announce.

Eh, I have a gaming PC, nothing in console reveals is ever going to impress me on a visual level. The jumps just are not there anymore, everything is just sharper, more detailed, better draw distance and faster loading. Which is already the higher settings on PC versions.

Game-wise there were no real surprises but everything looked like solid follow ups to existing stuff by 1st parties. I think most 3rd party stuff is still another year or two out and in general the gaming industry is done with announcing CG teaser trailers of stuff that's 5-7 years away and year 1-2 of new systems is always a drizzle. Usually lineups don't start getting substantial until year 3.

How about that Hitman 3 though.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2020, 05:24:22 PM
Where were the Japanese devs :doge

Microsoft had more :doge

Capgods tho
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Svejk on June 11, 2020, 05:25:13 PM
Why the fuck that Dinasour game was there?
That made me want to vomit... shouldn't even be switch worthy
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Boredfrom on June 11, 2020, 05:25:40 PM
That was lame. Holy shit with trying to pass those indie games as something only possible next gen.

But the developers will finally be able to realize their vision!!

Clunky clones of AAA games.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: BIONIC on June 11, 2020, 05:26:55 PM
Weirdest thing was that suicidal high school furry game.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2020, 05:27:15 PM
Weirdest thing was that suicidal high school furry game.

Snackbugz was a close second
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Boredfrom on June 11, 2020, 05:28:11 PM
Weirdest thing was that suicidal high school furry game.

I don’t think is so much about suicide but the world ending because a meteor.... is the freaking logo, holy shit that was lame.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: BIONIC on June 11, 2020, 05:28:49 PM
Weirdest thing was that suicidal high school furry game.

Snackbugz was a close second

That was gross  :yuck
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 11, 2020, 05:28:53 PM
https://twitter.com/johntv/status/1271192537034678273

 :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: team filler on June 11, 2020, 05:29:08 PM
 :maduro :crowdlaff :girlaff :neogaf :miyamoto
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Tasty on June 11, 2020, 05:29:12 PM
RE8 looks amazing, most I've been hyped for an RE since 5... hope it delivers. :P

Gives me a good incentive to finish 5 and 6 on Switch...
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nintex on June 11, 2020, 05:29:21 PM
Weirdest thing was that suicidal high school furry game.
That sorta was the vibe they were going for throughout most of this.
PlayStation Studios wants you to think they are pretentious edgy doomers.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: thisismyusername on June 11, 2020, 05:29:50 PM
Missed it. Anything coming to PC that is worthwhile to check out?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 11, 2020, 05:30:19 PM
Missed it. Anything coming to PC that is worthwhile to check out?

New Arkane Studios game.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Tasty on June 11, 2020, 05:30:24 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/4N2SEax.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/jyK50tr.jpg)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2020, 05:30:32 PM
Missed it. Anything coming to PC that is worthwhile to check out?

Resident Evil 8
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: EchoRin on June 11, 2020, 05:30:40 PM
All kinds of teases. Games are coming. That's pretty much all I can say. For whatever reason Hitman 3 has me pretty hyped seeing how that series has progressed with the last few games. And because I actually know the gameplay of Demon's Souls I excited for that remaster. Especially since Bluepoint is behind it.

Everything else, gotta wait for those games' respective in depth looks/gameplay.

Also, had a laugh at that Gearbox game with medieval action going on having some flavor of the month generic hip hop track. They don't have any music for it yet, do they?  :lol

Edit: RE8 showed up? Must have missed it. I tuned like 25 minutes in.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Boredfrom on June 11, 2020, 05:30:55 PM
Missed it. Anything coming to PC that is worthwhile to check out?

Resident Evill VIII... and maybe deathloop.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nintex on June 11, 2020, 05:31:19 PM
RE8 looked stellar and seemed like an actual complete video game.

Most of these 'glimpses' are supposed to ship holiday 2020?  :yeshrug
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: thisismyusername on June 11, 2020, 05:32:08 PM
Missed it. Anything coming to PC that is worthwhile to check out?

New Arkane Studios games.

OH NO

Missed it. Anything coming to PC that is worthwhile to check out?

Horizon 2.

NO NO. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Missed it. Anything coming to PC that is worthwhile to check out?

Resident Evil 8

Missed it. Anything coming to PC that is worthwhile to check out?

Resident Evill VIII... and maybe deathloop.

:larry :thinking :larry Ok, this might be worth hunting down a trailer for.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2020, 05:32:23 PM
If they had announced XVI that would have sealed the deal.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 11, 2020, 05:32:27 PM
Wow, I am so unimpressed with what they showed overall.  And that has never happened before.  There's always something -at least one game- that makes me go for the launch model, but so far...nope.  Will wait to see what more third-parties announce.
More impressive than what boner xx showed... not that that's saying much...  But I'm glad to see there's nothing I need at launch so far it seems.

But then again... what were you expecting??

Something -anything- that might really appeal to me.  Doesn't have to be a specific genre.  I guess out of all of them, that would be RE8, and I can get that on PC.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: wsippel on June 11, 2020, 05:32:31 PM
They shouldn't have leaned into the biggest leap ever stuff at all. Spider-Man looked like an expansion pack and that was the only game I wanted to play aside from Deathloop.

Truth in advertising. PS5 has x TFLOPS more than PS4, that's a much bigger jump than PS3 to PS4 in absolute numbers. Correct. But percentage wise, it's not even close. Not to mention the refreshes were a thing. It's almost literally two PS4 Pros duct taped together. Which, just like the jump from Gamecube to Wii, barely registers. Yes, the CPU is a lot more beefy. Like, a metric fuckton more beefy. But you don't really see that in a trailer.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 11, 2020, 05:34:08 PM
Interesting looking:

RE8, Horizon, Deathloop, that weird pikmin game

The rest: snore

The system: uggo

Getting one at launch: laughable
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2020, 05:34:29 PM
Where were the Japanese devs :doge

Microsoft had more :doge
Uh....new Square and Capcom IP..
Astro Bot, Demon Souls..Ghostwire..
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: thisismyusername on June 11, 2020, 05:35:08 PM
Demon's Souls is a remaster.  :lol Is Bluepoint even Japanese?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Bebpo on June 11, 2020, 05:35:27 PM
The best part of RE8 is that it confirms the leaks

...which say the game is actually legit good, which is the reason it was changed from revelations 3 -> RE8 because it tested so well and was given extra budget/time to become mainline.

So this could be a real cool game. Definitely looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 11, 2020, 05:35:44 PM
Forgot to add

Good reason for ending the failed human experiment:

Fast Times at Furry High
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nintex on June 11, 2020, 05:36:45 PM
I wanted to see:
Konami game (Silent Hill/MGS) which seem to be in dev w/ Sony
An RPG of any kind. WRPG/JRPG.
Openworld city game (Infamous/GTA/Saints Row)
Fun launch puzzle game.
Fighting game.

Real lack of diversity imo
Sony doesn't do FUN. they only do thought provoking ART

Like Goodbye High School Volcano

The best part of RE8 is that it confirms the leaks

...which say the game is actually legit good, which is the reason it was changed from revelations 3 -> RE8 because it tested so well and was given extra budget/time to become mainline.

So this could be a real cool game. Definitely looking forward to it.
I think I saw Luis. See, even a game about killing zombies can be fun as fuck pretentious Sony dorks.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: wsippel on June 11, 2020, 05:38:24 PM
Demon's Souls is a remaster.  :lol Is Bluepoint even Japanese?

Located in Austin, founded by former Retro Studio staff.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Boredfrom on June 11, 2020, 05:38:56 PM
Where were the Japanese devs :doge

Microsoft had more :doge
Uh....new Square and Capcom IP..
Astro Bot, Demon Souls..Ghostwire..

The Square stuff looked generic as hell, I’m worry about Demons Souls losing its art style post remaster, Tokyo Ghosts looked okay I guess.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: tiesto on June 11, 2020, 05:40:22 PM
Demon's Souls is a remaster.  :lol Is Bluepoint even Japanese?

When I think of Blue Point, I think of LI's most famous brewery, not games... heh.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nintex on June 11, 2020, 05:40:34 PM
https://twitter.com/ProZD/status/1271189291150925825 (https://twitter.com/ProZD/status/1271189291150925825)

 :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Svejk on June 11, 2020, 05:41:05 PM
Did Demon's Souls really look that cartoony?  Looks like WoW pastels.  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Beezy on June 11, 2020, 05:41:39 PM
Wait, there was a MS event in May? And they're having another in July? I completely missed that. :lol

Does Nintendo have anything scheduled?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Boredfrom on June 11, 2020, 05:42:53 PM
Did Demon's Souls really look that cartoony?  Looks like WoW pastels.  :lol

Like not at all.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: EchoRin on June 11, 2020, 05:43:07 PM
Wait, there was a MS event in May? And they're having another in July? I completely missed that. :lol

Does Nintendo have anything scheduled?

Nintendo said they couldn't put a Direct together due to Covid 19  :yeshrug
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 11, 2020, 05:44:05 PM
Wait, there was a MS event in May? And they're having another in July? I completely missed that. :lol

Does Nintendo have anything scheduled?
Nintendo seems like they won't announce anything for the foreseeable future, the big E3 leaker said they have absolutely zero plans to show anything for the foreseeable future.

They don't need to show any new hardware, so that makes sense.  Expecting something new from them next year or maybe the year after.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: tiesto on June 11, 2020, 05:44:06 PM
I'll probably end up playing RE8 and the not-FFXV game from the Luminous team... maybe Ratchet, the game from the Hyper Light Drifter people, or Little Big Mario 3D World. But most of the show was 'ehhhh' for me. That furry game and the one game about fruit that looked like a Wii game were "wtf".
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: EchoRin on June 11, 2020, 05:45:40 PM
Fruit game had me thinking it was gonna be something like Viva Pinata. Which I mean maybe it kinda sort of will be.

I don't know what I'm saying. But it made me think of VP.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Bebpo on June 11, 2020, 05:46:05 PM
I'm kind of mixed on Demon's Souls only having Bluepoint logo and not mentioning From Soft at all. But I also get that if they put From Software's logo it might've misled people to think they were involved in the development of this one.

Probably should've said something like "A remake of From Software's masterpiece" or something. I'm sure the release game will have stuff like that throughout.

I like Demon Souls (was amazingly original at the release time before Souls became a thing) but I also feel it got outdated by Dark Souls so idk how excited I am to replay Demon Souls without the Dark Souls gameplay/design improvements. I'll still replay it just for the visuals and nostalgia, so I guess I'll see.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Tasty on June 11, 2020, 05:47:12 PM
https://twitter.com/Dubazaki/status/1271194141897175040

(https://i.imgur.com/eu8Rby1.jpg)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Bebpo on June 11, 2020, 05:48:15 PM
Also the Silent Hill rumor was the dumbest shit ever and I don't know why anyone put stock in it. Konami doesn't make videogames anymore, Konami doesn't care about their IPs and is a dick and isn't going to license them out. Silent Hill is dead outside Pachinko spinoffs or some mobile gatcha crap.

If ex-Silent Hill people want to make a new SH, they'll make a similar game without the IP like Siren, but something actually closer to SH (Siren was reaaaally nothing like SH).

I wonder if those Silent Hill rumors were completely based on someone seeing part of that RE8 trailer and assuming it was Silent Hill?
Nope, 2 Silent Hill games are definitely in the works w/ SIE.

The guy who called it is one of the most reliable horror game leakers, going on decades iirc. He posts on ERA still, but he has his own site.

I still think this is people dreaming.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: wsippel on June 11, 2020, 05:49:02 PM
Wait, there was a MS event in May? And they're having another in July? I completely missed that. :lol

Does Nintendo have anything scheduled?

Nintendo said they couldn't put a Direct together due to Covid 19  :yeshrug

I think Nintendo simply sees the writing on the wall. We are at the beginning of a massive economic downturn, a lot of people either lost their jobs or will lose their job in the near future, food prices are already starting to skyrocket - escapism will always sell, but they don't have new hardware anyway and the cheapest current platform by far.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: EchoRin on June 11, 2020, 05:49:33 PM
Would have dislocated my jaw in awe if Phil Fish showed up in the video, said "Japanese gamez are dumz" and then FEZ 2.

 :mouf

Alas, that will never be.  :fbm
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 11, 2020, 05:49:52 PM
Confirmed multiplatform releases:

Deathloop (PC)
Pragmata (The Capcom game) (PC, Xbox X)
Resident Evil 8 (PC, Xbox X)
Bugsnax (lol) (PC, *PS4*)
Godfall (PC)
Ghostwire:Tokyo (PC)
Weird Furry Shit (PC, PS4)
STRAY (PC)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nintex on June 11, 2020, 05:50:03 PM
Nintendo will announce Super Mario 64 Switch with a Tweet and release it a week later.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: thisismyusername on June 11, 2020, 05:50:27 PM
Spoilers for Bio8:

https://www.inverse.com/gaming/resident-evil-8-release-date-leaks-ps5

Trailer looks good. But more first-person Biohazard. :beli I was fine with it with 7, but I don't really need more of that in the series.

Rest of it looks good.

Chris' face was fucking fixed. :lawd :preach :lawd :preach :lawd :hump Capcom :hump

Confirmed multiplatform releases:

Deathloop (PC)
Pragmata (The Capcom game) (PC, Xbox X)
Bugsnax (lol) (PC, *PS4*)
Godfall (PC)
Ghostwire:Tokyo (PC)
Weird Furry Shit (PC, PS4)
STRAY (PC)

Bio8 will be multi-plat. Book it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Boredfrom on June 11, 2020, 05:50:36 PM
Wait, there was a MS event in May? And they're having another in July? I completely missed that. :lol

Does Nintendo have anything scheduled?
Nintendo seems like they won't announce anything for the foreseeable future, the big E3 leaker said they have absolutely zero plans to show anything for the foreseeable future.

They don't need to show any new hardware, so that makes sense.  Expecting something new from them next year or maybe the year after.
With SMTV, No More Heroes 3, Pokemon, Bravely Default II, Zelda, Metroid Prime 4, and god knows what, I really did expect at least a Direct to be "planned"

Is difficult to be excited about Bravely Default II after Bravely Second fiasco, Metroid Prime 4 and Zelda still feel nowhere ready to show.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: eleuin on June 11, 2020, 05:52:52 PM
https://twitter.com/yonodiam/status/1271192585235623936
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: BIONIC on June 11, 2020, 05:53:35 PM
Wait, there was a MS event in May? And they're having another in July? I completely missed that. :lol

Does Nintendo have anything scheduled?
Nintendo seems like they won't announce anything for the foreseeable future, the big E3 leaker said they have absolutely zero plans to show anything for the foreseeable future.

They don't need to show any new hardware, so that makes sense.  Expecting something new from them next year or maybe the year after.
With SMTV, No More Heroes 3, Pokemon, Bravely Default II, Zelda, Metroid Prime 4, and god knows what, I really did expect at least a Direct to be "planned"

We'll never hear anything about SMTV, MP4, or Bayonetta 3  :foxx

If the Switch wasn’t successful they would be PS3 chalkboard meme fodder at this point  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: EchoRin on June 11, 2020, 05:54:45 PM
https://twitter.com/yonodiam/status/1271192585235623936

But will look right at home with Mirror's Edge evil villain looking EA spokesperson that always looks like he's scheming all the FIFA fools at every E3 the last 2 or 3 years. You know the guy. The one that can easily steal your girlfriend and take her on a trip in his own personal yacht.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nintex on June 11, 2020, 05:56:57 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaQyRDTVAAAKIgO?format=jpg)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: wsippel on June 11, 2020, 06:02:57 PM
August 2020? No way.

It says they'll release new information in August. Not the game itself. Google Translate's camera function can be quite useful from time to time!
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: thisismyusername on June 11, 2020, 06:07:45 PM
So it's coming out months before the consoles that can play it will be out?

Bold.

STEAM ALWAYS WINS BAYBEE.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: kingv on June 11, 2020, 06:07:48 PM
Spider man looks good. The console itself looks really ugly and dumb.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: EchoRin on June 11, 2020, 06:13:26 PM
A crack team? Cause of constant development crunch, or...
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2020, 06:13:59 PM
Of course it’s coming to other platforms...
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: paprikastaude on June 11, 2020, 06:15:23 PM
RE8  :brock2 :gladbron
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2020, 06:15:34 PM
Or you could have just played it already....
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: EchoRin on June 11, 2020, 06:17:07 PM
So Remedy announced Control coming to La Serie X and PS5. Guess I can wait to play it for free on Game Pass.

Steam this august too right, finally? One year Epic exclusivity up I think.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2020, 06:17:56 PM
It’s a modern AAA game from a third party that didn’t say exclusive coming, but instead vague whatever wording during a console specific showing.

Use you’re fucking brain.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: who is ted danson? on June 11, 2020, 06:21:07 PM
turned this shit off after 15 minutes

looks like i made the right choice

and that console is the fucking ugliest thing I have every seen.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Tasty on June 11, 2020, 06:24:59 PM
Chris' face was fucking fixed. :lawd :preach :lawd :preach :lawd :hump Capcom :hump

The real megaton :lawd

CAPGODS :noah

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Will always prefer Leon tho :uguu
[close]
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nintex on June 11, 2020, 06:27:05 PM
Epic announced UE5 for PS5. But UE5 won't ship until 2021, so what we're seeing today is either UE4 footage or target renders.
Now with Microsoft pushing for all games to be compatible with Xbox One > Xbox One X > Xbox Series X
there's also little motivation for multi-platform devs to target PS5/Xbox Series X as lead platforms.

I think PS5 and Xbox Series X will be little more than PS4 Pro+ and Xbox One X+ until the 'real' next gen games arrive in 2022 at which point these machines will get revisions.
If you don't have a gaming PC and you move from vanilla PS4 to PS5, it's a significant step.

Maybe AMD sold them the Zen 2 chips at a bargain because they're moving to Zen 3 and these things will launch at $299 for the digital and $399 with the drive but I'm not seeing that happening.
I also think that as the generation goes on Sony will either to a GamePass sort of thing or greatly reduce their first party output of which very titles add something to the line-up.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Ghoul on June 11, 2020, 06:28:29 PM
https://twitter.com/hownottodraw/status/1271187628138921992 VERY GAY
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: EchoRin on June 11, 2020, 06:28:54 PM

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Will always prefer Leon tho :uguu
[close]

And this is why you are one of the best Boreitos
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nintex on June 11, 2020, 06:29:58 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaQpfCeXgAgU3rB?format=jpg)

OSCAR WORTHY WRITING

THERE IS SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE - IGN 7/10
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Ghoul on June 11, 2020, 06:32:01 PM
Where’s resistance 4? Huh?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: BisMarckie on June 11, 2020, 06:35:19 PM
The worst part about 2020 is that people try to convince you that it isn't wrong to be a furry.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: thisismyusername on June 11, 2020, 06:37:11 PM
James died too soon on Epstein's island before he saw the furry revolution. :furrycry
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nintex on June 11, 2020, 06:37:34 PM
James died too soon on Epstein's island before he saw the furry revolution. :furrycry
james is probably busy doing the art on this game
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2020, 06:39:12 PM
Use you’re fucking brain.

Could you show me how it's done first, and then I'll follow your lead?
Well for one, read the actual PR and eh know how Game announcements actually go..
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: BisMarckie on June 11, 2020, 06:39:49 PM
The worst part about 2020 is that people try to convince you that it isn't wrong to be a furry.

Because scalies it's where it's at bitches  8)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: thisismyusername on June 11, 2020, 06:40:15 PM
The worst part about 2020 is that people try to convince you that it isn't wrong to be a furry.

Because scalies it's where it's at bitches  8)

DragonsFuckingCars.jpg
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Akala on June 11, 2020, 06:40:59 PM
at least everyone can agree the furry thing is anti game of show
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2020, 06:41:42 PM
Time to preorder Goodbye, Volcano High: Limited Collector's Edition exclusively on BadDragon.com
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: wsippel on June 11, 2020, 06:43:38 PM
Maybe AMD sold them the Zen 2 chips at a bargain because they're moving to Zen 3 and these things will launch at $299 for the digital and $399 with the drive but I'm not seeing that happening.
I also think that as the generation goes on Sony will either to a GamePass sort of thing or greatly reduce their first party output of which very titles add something to the line-up.

I'm pretty sure it'll be a SoC. So basically a bigger brother of the current Ryzen 4000 notebook chips, just with RDNA2 GPUs. Which probably also means lower clocks and stripped down L3 cache for the CPU. But I don't expect MCMs. AMD's design is incredibly clever, they only really have TSMC produce one type of chip. If the chips come out awesome, they can sell them as EPYC, Ryzen 9 or Ryzen 7, depending on demand and how many they bolt together. If they have slight defects, they'll become Ryzen 5, and with bigger defects, they become Ryzen 3. It's all the exact same silicon. And with how those things are selling, they'll never have a stockpile of unsold chips sitting around. The upcoming Zen 3 chips will be different designs and use a different process, but AMD won't lose money selling old stock to Sony and MS. The PS5 and XSX chips are bespoke, Sony and MS pay for manufacturing, inventory management and dealing with faulty chips will be their problem.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: BIONIC on June 11, 2020, 06:44:02 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaQpfCeXgAgU3rB?format=jpg)

OSCAR WORTHY WRITING

THERE IS SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE - IGN 7/10

Shin Megami Tensei: Fursona
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 11, 2020, 06:46:33 PM
Epic announced UE5 for PS5. But UE5 won't ship until 2021, so what we're seeing today is either UE4 footage or target renders.


Or you know, games that aren't running on UE5 :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2020, 06:48:59 PM
This was the most typical Sony conference ever. I don’t know why anyone was shocked.

Start off with the big but not too big AAA games, pad with the indies and smaller games then the bigger stuff. It was the typical template. Except they actually showed a lot of games and a variety of games. I’m not surprised by the reactions here, but I don’t know what people want. You made fun of thier overly cinematic dad games and they didn’t offer any of that. They had new reveals of favorite PS ips, 3rd party ips, new stuff, stupid indies you people usually rave about, a return of platforms, and so on. As a first look I’m not sure what’s awful here. I’m convinced nothing will make any of you happy.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2020, 06:51:39 PM
Use you’re fucking brain.

Could you show me how it's done first, and then I'll follow your lead?
Well for one, read the actual PR and eh know how Game announcements actually go..

Hey clown, I know it's hard to see over your big fucking clown nose but I mentioned it because people may not have seen some PR post and because of the fact that it says it was designed exclusively for the PS5 all over the trailer. Try not to get any of your clown makeup in your eyes when you go to take it off later.
I mean you made the most recent “life sucks” thread. So if anyone is about to do a joker movie fantasy killing it’s you.

Hey try not to be such a cynical fuck and maybe you’ll enjoy things.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: EchoRin on June 11, 2020, 06:52:21 PM
@Rahx

It's just a appetizer of an appetizer. I think we'll be more intrigued once we get to see some of these games  when they are truly being previewed. Certainly for all the new IPs.

that, and the fact that the days of jumps from SNES to N64, PS1 to PS2, SD to HD are seemingly over, so there isn't any shock and awe in terms of how amazing something looks graphically when it comes to "generational leap" hype.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Ghoul on June 11, 2020, 06:52:55 PM
Time to preorder Goodbye, Volcano High: Limited Collector's Edition exclusively on BadDragon.com

OK Bork.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: wsippel on June 11, 2020, 06:55:44 PM
This was the most typical Sony conference ever. I don’t know why anyone was shocked.

Start off with the big but not too big AAA games, pad with the indies and smaller games then the bigger stuff. It was the typical template. Except they actually showed a lot of games and a variety of games. I’m not surprised by the reactions here, but I don’t know what people want. You made fun of thier overly cinematic dad games and they didn’t offer any of that. They had new reveals of favorite PS ips, 3rd party ips, new stuff, stupid indies you people usually rave about, a return of platforms, and so on. As a first look I’m not sure what’s awful here. I’m convinced nothing will make any of you happy.

I don't think anyone was shocked? And some of the games did look interesting, except the interesting titles were pretty much all multiplatform and mostly aready known. People make fun of the abysmal product design, the dumb "biggest leap ever" marketing, and that furry game. All of that is perfectly understandable. And yeah, people who expected a certain (more or less) obscure IP are disappointed, but that always happens.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2020, 06:56:00 PM
Time to preorder Goodbye, Volcano High: Limited Collector's Edition exclusively on BadDragon.com

OK Bork.

The was a joke, the only animal people I officially recognize are catgirls.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Boredfrom on June 11, 2020, 06:58:04 PM
Project Athia is coming to PC.

https://twitter.com/garywhitta/status/1271177007074697217

THAT'S A SKIP FOR SURE.

That’s why it looks so generic?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2020, 07:00:05 PM
well you’re a bitch. And your clown joke was stupid.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: BisMarckie on June 11, 2020, 07:01:03 PM


Probably. Whitta wrote such stinkers as The Book of Eli and After Earth so I'm expecting some real awful shit here.

PC Gamer was alrght tho :trumps
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Pennywise on June 11, 2020, 07:03:38 PM
Enjoyed most of the stuff.

Exceptions are Tokyo Ghostwire and the furry game.
Nothing about Tokyo Ghostwire looked really interesting.

Can't wait for Demon Souls.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: wsippel on June 11, 2020, 07:09:58 PM
Maybe I've become a jaded, sad, joyless piece of shit, but my main issue with this presentation, and Microsoft's showcase before, is that I didn't see anything new. Just the same games with slightly better graphics. But nothing truly revolutionary or at least ambitious. Maybe it's the nostalgia goggles, but I feel we had that in the past. It doesn't have to be games. Xbox Live was a huge deal, VR was a huge deal, even fucking waggle was different and a big deal. Microsoft's "power of the cloud" never happened, but it was at least inspiring. Wii U's second screen failed and 3DS' stereoscopic screen was ultimately pointless, but it was something different. Give me something new and visionary, even if it's just a business idea. This wasn't inspiring or visionary. And Microsoft's show wasn't, either.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: paprikastaude on June 11, 2020, 07:19:55 PM
Wish Silent Hill was real instead of Ratchet and shit. Then this whole thing might've been more convincing for me. But on the other hand, I got my personal wish that they'd make an Astrobot to show off the new controller gimmicks. :leon

Though with RE8 appparently (and surprisingly) not being crossgen, I probably need next gen pretty soon anyway :stahp Best game of the show, never cared much for Sony 1st party. But I guess I'll also take that Demon's remake, Little Big Mario and some other smaller shit like Kera (or whatever it's called) if it isn't total shit.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: tiesto on June 11, 2020, 07:20:42 PM
tbh I remember the PS4 reveal being meh as hell, but the system ended up being excellent. So who knows? Corona probably threw a lot of companies' plans out the window, and I expect some big delays for a lot of these titles... Honestly I'm surprised that PS5 and Series X are even coming out this year. But to be honest, a lot of the 'gamier' games that I enjoy don't really translate well to the rapid-succession-trailer format though, so everything looks kinda samey and "seen it before".

I really wish that Sony wouldn't have let their old PS1 and PS2 Japanese IP flounder so badly. I'd kill for a new Wild Arms, Arc the Lad, or Velldeselba Senki.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: DJ Bedroom on June 11, 2020, 07:21:22 PM
Maybe I've become a jaded, sad, joyless piece of shit, but my main issue with this presentation, and Microsoft's showcase before, is that I didn't see anything new. Just the same games with slightly better graphics. But nothing truly revolutionary or at least ambitious. Maybe it's the nostalgia goggles, but I feel we had that in the past. It doesn't have to be games. Xbox Live was a huge deal, VR was a huge deal, even fucking waggle was different and a big deal. Microsoft's "power of the cloud" never happened, but it was at least inspiring. Wii U's second screen failed and 3DS' stereoscopic screen was ultimately pointless, but it was something different. Give me something new and visionary, even if it's just a business idea. This wasn't inspiring or visionary. And Microsoft's show wasn't, either.
Pretty much where I'm at with this stuff.
BUT DID YOU SEE THOSE FLOOR  REFLECTIONS THO ARHGJGJFJFJFJJRJJFEKJTH
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nintex on June 11, 2020, 07:21:37 PM
Maybe I've become a jaded, sad, joyless piece of shit, but my main issue with this presentation, and Microsoft's showcase before, is that I didn't see anything new. Just the same games with slightly better graphics. But nothing truly revolutionary or at least ambitious. Maybe it's the nostalgia goggles, but I feel we had that in the past. It doesn't have to be games. Xbox Live was a huge deal, VR was a huge deal, even fucking waggle was different and a big deal. Microsoft's "power of the cloud" never happened, but it was at least inspiring. Wii U's second screen failed and 3DS' stereoscopic screen was ultimately pointless, but it was something different. Give me something new and visionary, even if it's just a business idea. This wasn't inspiring or visionary. And Microsoft's show wasn't, either.
Yeah, it's kinda weird. The most innovative thing I've played this year is Half Life: Alyx on the Rift. There's nothing as exciting as that on PlayStation 5.

If Microsoft really has a Perfect Dark reboot than I'm team green for another generation.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: EchoRin on June 11, 2020, 07:27:11 PM
Maybe I've become a jaded, sad, joyless piece of shit, but my main issue with this presentation, and Microsoft's showcase before, is that I didn't see anything new. Just the same games with slightly better graphics. But nothing truly revolutionary or at least ambitious. Maybe it's the nostalgia goggles, but I feel we had that in the past. It doesn't have to be games. Xbox Live was a huge deal, VR was a huge deal, even fucking waggle was different and a big deal. Microsoft's "power of the cloud" never happened, but it was at least inspiring. Wii U's second screen failed and 3DS' stereoscopic screen was ultimately pointless, but it was something different. Give me something new and visionary, even if it's just a business idea. This wasn't inspiring or visionary. And Microsoft's show wasn't, either.
Yeah, it's kinda weird. The most innovative thing I've played this year is Half Life: Alyx on the Rift. There's nothing as exciting as that on PlayStation 5.

If Microsoft really has a Perfect Dark reboot than I'm team green for another generation.

I don't know if I can trust any Microsoft FPS currently. The way they have been handling the MCC on not one but TWO platforms has been utterly disappointing. And PDZ was, well PDZ.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: EchoRin on June 11, 2020, 07:30:31 PM
Well on a side note. Yes these live streams never have that great visual quality regardless of what platform they are on (Twitch or Youtube). So yeah watching the footage live instead of after the show usually gets all extra compressed with those tiny little boxes sort of appearing on the image when more stuff is going on.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nintex on June 11, 2020, 07:31:48 PM
Maybe I've become a jaded, sad, joyless piece of shit, but my main issue with this presentation, and Microsoft's showcase before, is that I didn't see anything new. Just the same games with slightly better graphics. But nothing truly revolutionary or at least ambitious. Maybe it's the nostalgia goggles, but I feel we had that in the past. It doesn't have to be games. Xbox Live was a huge deal, VR was a huge deal, even fucking waggle was different and a big deal. Microsoft's "power of the cloud" never happened, but it was at least inspiring. Wii U's second screen failed and 3DS' stereoscopic screen was ultimately pointless, but it was something different. Give me something new and visionary, even if it's just a business idea. This wasn't inspiring or visionary. And Microsoft's show wasn't, either.
Yeah, it's kinda weird. The most innovative thing I've played this year is Half Life: Alyx on the Rift. There's nothing as exciting as that on PlayStation 5.

If Microsoft really has a Perfect Dark reboot than I'm team green for another generation.

I don't know if I can trust any Microsoft FPS currently. The way they have been handling the MCC on not one but TWO platforms has been utterly disappointing. And PDZ was, well PDZ.
I like to dream that isn't total shit and the job descriptions for The Initiative have given me comfort that it at least resembles a Perfect Dark game.

Still, due to the ongoing situation regarding COVID-19 Sony and maybe third parties held some things back.

Something tells me that the GTAV remaster remaster was not the only GTA thing that was supposed to be there.
Maybe they had a GTAVI teaser lined up. The same with Capcom, they usually announce a slate of new titles not just one game. The same with EA.
So maybe things are spread througout the Xbox/PS5/SummerFest reveals or developers/publishers are just holding onto their cards until the VGA's and next year.

A ton of publishers/developers missing too. A PlayStation reveal without NAMCO? Sega was also a no show  ???
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: headwalk on June 11, 2020, 07:33:35 PM
"hey son, how's your blue lesbian triceratops game going?"
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: BisMarckie on June 11, 2020, 07:33:50 PM


BUT DID YOU SEE THOSE FLOOR  REFLECTIONS THO ARHGJGJFJFJFJJRJJFEKJTH

That's the best part about getting older. No I didn't  8)

That's why I will stick with my 1080 for at least two more years.  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: paprikastaude on June 11, 2020, 07:36:08 PM
I mean yeah, we all know that they need to start thinking about new shit other than graphics to impress? Guess streaming will be the next step, even though I don't like it one bit. Yet PS5 would've always been a very likely purchase for me, even if it was simply to continue playing that PS4 backlog but in pro-mode. Right now we're getting games like Control that base consoles can't handle properly anymore, so I always saw next gen like a smartphone-esque upgrade at best. And today's show I treated more like a normal E3 for games I might look forward to, while not realistically expecting mindblowing innovation tbh. I guess Ratchet was the most impressive for me visually? The gameplay of the PS4 title didn't really convince me though (only one I played).
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2020, 07:38:44 PM
well you’re a bitch. And your clown joke was stupid.


(https://i.imgur.com/O8e1o4e.gif)

Stop projecting, clown :lol
You are very mad. It’s sad.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Pennywise on June 11, 2020, 07:39:33 PM
Wish Silent Hill was real instead of Ratchet and shit. Then this whole thing might've been more convincing for me. But on the other hand, I got my personal wish that they'd make an Astrobot to show off the new controller gimmicks. :leon

Though with RE8 appparently (and surprisingly) not being crossgen, I probably need next gen pretty soon anyway :stahp Best game of the show, never cared much for Sony 1st party. But I guess I'll also take that Demon's remake, Little Big Mario and some other smaller shit like Kera (or whatever it's called) if it isn't total shit.
There's still that State of Play in August for SH.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nintex on June 11, 2020, 07:50:07 PM
The more I think about this reveal, the more I think about stuff that should've/would've? been there but wasn't.

- Ubisoft (Valhalla? Splinter Cell? Beyond Good & Evil?)
- EA (Need for Speed? FIFA?)
- SEGA (Sonic?, Yakuza?)
- More Capcom (DMC6?)
- Hideo Kojima ( ? )
- Namco Bandai (Tekken? Ridge Racer? Ace Combat?)
- Cyberpunk next gen?
- Fortnite / Epic Games? Other BR/service games? Destiny 2?
- Bethesda? (more than 1 game)
- Warner Bros? (Batman?)
- Activision Blizzard?
- 2K games (Bioshock?)

The third party offerings reminded me more of a Nintendo console reveal. Especially the GTAV Remaster Remaster.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Bebpo on June 11, 2020, 07:54:45 PM
x No Hot Shots Golf
x No Earth Defense Force
x No PAIN 2

Fuck the ps5.

Hot Shots probably wouldn’t be announced in the West and it’s a smaller tier franchise now. Might show up to fill gaps at a Japan show.

EDF will come lol, 5 was the top selling game in the franchise. Also Japanese market heavy.

Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: wsippel on June 11, 2020, 07:56:29 PM
I mean yeah, we all know that they need to start thinking about new shit other than graphics to impress? Guess streaming will be the next step, even though I don't like it one bit. Yet PS5 would've always been a very likely purchase for me, even if it was simply to continue playing that PS4 backlog but in pro-mode. Right now we're getting games like Control that base consoles can't handle properly anymore, so I always saw next gen like a smartphone-esque upgrade at best. And today's show I treated more like a normal E3 for games I might look forward to, while not realistically expecting mindblowing innovation tbh. I guess Ratchet was the most impressive for me visually? The gameplay of the PS4 title didn't really convince me though (only one I played).
Streaming in itself isn't new or impressive anymore, either. It already exists. I can already suck at Doom Eternal on my phone while taking a dump, don't even have to subscribe to some half assed service like Stadia. That's not good enough. I don't know. Waggle in its initial implementation was arse, but at the same time, it was the foundation for the control scheme we have in a much more refined form in VR right now. Maybe cloud assisted computing could make a return? I still think there's potential. Or those companies could come up with something else, something truly new and out of the box.

Anyway, I agree that Ratchet & Clank was probably the most impressive thing I've seen. Which admittedly isn't saying much. Even their "jump between dimensions" SSD showcase wasn't super convincing, considering it was still essentially a loading screen. I wish Oculus bought Insomniac before Sony could - Stormlands, while incomplete, was more fresh and innovative than anything they've done under Sony.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 11, 2020, 07:59:06 PM
Maybe I've become a jaded, sad, joyless piece of shit, but my main issue with this presentation, and Microsoft's showcase before, is that I didn't see anything new. Just the same games with slightly better graphics. But nothing truly revolutionary or at least ambitious. Maybe it's the nostalgia goggles, but I feel we had that in the past.

The only time this really happened was the 2D/Fake 3D to 3D transition. Since then it's the same weird complaint every time :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Cheddahz on June 11, 2020, 08:01:03 PM
tried watching the presentation and was just....bored the whole time; hitman 3 was probably the most exciting thing for me (but i can play that on my xbox one x, so why should i rush out and buy a system?), but i'm just coming to terms that i think the current video game world is not for me
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nintex on June 11, 2020, 08:02:13 PM
tried watching the presentation and was just....bored the whole time; hitman 3 was probably the most exciting thing for me, but i'm just coming to terms that i think the current video game world is not for me
Nah it's just this presentation and Sony's 'unfun' vibes in general.

Remember this is the same company that thinks it's fun to have a dude play a flute with a 3D render in the background.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: paprikastaude on June 11, 2020, 08:07:28 PM
The more I think about this reveal, the more I think about stuff that should've/would've? been there but wasn't.

- Ubisoft (Valhalla? Splinter Cell? Beyond Good & Evil?)
- EA (Need for Speed? FIFA?)
- SEGA (Sonic?, Yakuza?)
- More Capcom (DMC6?)
- Hideo Kojima ( ? )
- Namco Bandai (Tekken? Ridge Racer? Ace Combat?)
- Cyberpunk next gen?
- Fortnite / Epic Games? Other BR/service games? Destiny 2?
- Bethesda? (more than 1 game)
- Warner Bros? (Batman?)
- Activision Blizzard?
- 2K games (Bioshock?)

The third party offerings reminded me more of a Nintendo console reveal. Especially the GTAV Remaster Remaster.

Ubisoft and EA have their own events, among others. And why would I want to see them anyway? :goldberg
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: EchoRin on June 11, 2020, 08:12:10 PM
I'm pretty sure Fang is actually non-binary. The description uses the word "they" where you could have had him/her.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: paprikastaude on June 11, 2020, 08:12:27 PM
There's still that State of Play in August for SH.

It seems way too phoney for me now. On the other hand, Duskgolem nailed everything about RE8 in the leaks. Still. The entire premise of buying SH from Konami felt too much like fanfiction to begin with.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Tasty on June 11, 2020, 08:16:11 PM
I wonder if those Silent Hill rumors were completely based on someone seeing part of that RE8 trailer and assuming it was Silent Hill?
Nope, 2 Silent Hill games are definitely in the works w/ SIE.

The guy who called it is one of the most reliable horror game leakers, going on decades iirc. He posts on ERA still, but he has his own site.

"""""""definitely"""""""
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Pennywise on June 11, 2020, 08:16:12 PM
The more I think about this reveal, the more I think about stuff that should've/would've? been there but wasn't.

- Ubisoft (Valhalla? Splinter Cell? Beyond Good & Evil?)
- EA (Need for Speed? FIFA?)
- SEGA (Sonic?, Yakuza?)
- More Capcom (DMC6?)
- Hideo Kojima ( ? )
- Namco Bandai (Tekken? Ridge Racer? Ace Combat?)
- Cyberpunk next gen?
- Fortnite / Epic Games? Other BR/service games? Destiny 2?
- Bethesda? (more than 1 game)
- Warner Bros? (Batman?)
- Activision Blizzard?
- 2K games (Bioshock?)

The third party offerings reminded me more of a Nintendo console reveal. Especially the GTAV Remaster Remaster.

Ubi and EA got their own event.

- SEGA felt weird.
- Capcom had two titles at the event.
- Kojimbles is still doing DS for PC and is surely really early in development. Unless you wanted a CGI trailer.
- Namco Bandai was missing for sure. No Tales of Arise and that other weird looking title was on the Xbox stage.
- Cyberpunk got MS marketing and it's own event.
- Destiny just had a big stream.
- Bethesda also had two titles, the big question is how far Starfield is.
- Warner Brothers has to either do their own stuff or be at Xbox. New Batman and that Harry Potter game should be revealed soon. If I remember right, they wanted to do their own E3 conference.
- Activision  :doge They're gonna push a new Crash soon. CoD is gonna take a while until they unveil it.
- 2k aye, allthough they're gonna show the next-gen version of their Mafia 1 remake at IGN.

Overall Sony made sure not to show alot of cross-gen titles, but there are still alot of studios that need to show off their stuff.
However, there is still the Xbox Event and another State of Play.

Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: TEEEPO on June 11, 2020, 08:20:31 PM
gran turismo 7   :rejoice
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Tektonic on June 11, 2020, 08:33:08 PM
ps5 is transformative...

yep, you transform every game +1 = sequels galore + CGI trailers (note: most had "early alpha footage" downgrade disclaimer or "devkit" read: more powerful)...

wait till 2022, then we will see how it all stacks up.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 11, 2020, 08:39:17 PM
tbh I remember the PS4 reveal being meh as hell, but the system ended up being excellent. So who knows? Corona probably threw a lot of companies' plans out the window, and I expect some big delays for a lot of these titles... Honestly I'm surprised that PS5 and Series X are even coming out this year. But to be honest, a lot of the 'gamier' games that I enjoy don't really translate well to the rapid-succession-trailer format though, so everything looks kinda samey and "seen it before".

I really wish that Sony wouldn't have let their old PS1 and PS2 Japanese IP flounder so badly. I'd kill for a new Wild Arms, Arc the Lad, or Velldeselba Senki.

Nah man, the PS4 reveal was hilarious only because the xbone was such a disaster. MS kept stepping on their own dick with the drm shit, having to be online to use the system, and $500. Sony came in and just dunked on them so hard it wouldn't have mattered if they hadn't brought any games (and they didn't honestly bring anything too exciting, I can't even remember anything they showed, I'm sure there was your standard boring ass Sony first party shit that apparently people out there enjoy- your GTs, your whatevers, your Knacks baaaaaaaybeeeeeeee)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: thetylerrob on June 11, 2020, 08:44:06 PM
Silent Hill and RE4 remake leaks were both bogus. I want to believe but nahhhh. "Insiders" seem to be even less reliable these days.

Sony is woke as hell now though, seemed like every game protagonist was female, non-white, or a cartoon. White male gang truly are the most opressed  :notlikethis
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on June 11, 2020, 08:44:44 PM
It’s a big boy apparently.

(https://i.imgur.com/UUr0rrP_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Bebpo on June 11, 2020, 08:49:53 PM
It’s a big boy apparently.

(https://i.imgur.com/UUr0rrP_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

Yeah, that is pretty beefy. Also the PS3 really looks like a PS2 in that picture.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: BisMarckie on June 11, 2020, 08:52:27 PM
It looks like to be slightly wider than the PS4 Pro and about 25% longer.

That's like Atari 5200 size.  :doge

Yeah, I am waiting for a slim version.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2020, 09:03:00 PM
https://www.resetera.com/threads/kagari-it-was-supposed-to-be-there-ffxvi-jason-schreier-responds-thinks-it’s-unlikely-this-is-the-case-see-threadmark.224950/

Kagari being full of shit? Who could have guessed?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Trent Dole on June 11, 2020, 09:20:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahCPSAUKFR4

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaQpfCeXgAgU3rB?format=jpg)

This really is 2011 Tumblr user: The Game
Haha who the fuck is sad about high school ending shut the fuck up get the fuck out of here.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Tasty on June 11, 2020, 09:23:48 PM
https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/1271203428912562176

Shosta lookin' pretty g-

It’s a big boy apparently.

(https://i.imgur.com/UUr0rrP_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

...big.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Trent Dole on June 11, 2020, 09:30:24 PM
https://twitter.com/mhkchen/status/1271226345377288193
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: EchoRin on June 11, 2020, 09:36:11 PM
Ok. Design justified
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: team filler on June 11, 2020, 09:41:52 PM
trashstation 5  :crowdlaff
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2020, 10:08:42 PM
You people are cynical as fuck.

Try adding something constructive instead of complaining then?
Isnt that all you did?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Positive Touch on June 11, 2020, 10:25:20 PM
i feel like i watched a different presentation than everybody else? like yeah i won't be buying most of these games but they showed off a huge variety of gameplay, art styles, devs. there wasn't some magic game that will forever change how games are played but come the fuck on. this hardly looks like an endless parade of saturated bald space marines, or a system betting on gimmicks or whatever. sony just said hey you want video games here's a fuckton, you want big names well we got them all. yet the thread looks like a bunch of teenagers whining that their parents bought them a used car instead of brand new one or something. i'm not saying you need to be jizzing over this shit but it hardly looks like the creative death of the industry.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: naff on June 11, 2020, 10:33:51 PM
it's absolutely the incremental, quality of life improvement i expected. an excellent pc adjacent gaming machine that does all the things you want it to do with a few humdrum exclusivos to help sway you over buying it's near identical competitor
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: kingv on June 11, 2020, 10:34:57 PM
OMG, PS5 is too big for Japanese houses. Like, there’s literally no room over there by the tatami mat and shit.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Svejk on June 11, 2020, 10:42:38 PM
My only problem so far, is still not knowing enough to consider getting near launch or not.  If I can dump my PS4 library on there out of the box? Sure thing..
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: naff on June 11, 2020, 11:11:21 PM
 :lol  :sabu
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2020, 11:12:28 PM
I mean I totally came so..

Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2020, 11:16:52 PM
No bro, I just like video games and they showed some decent looking ones. It’s as simple as that. It was a decent if not typical Sony showing.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2020, 11:18:41 PM
Also:

 :umad
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2020, 11:22:57 PM
Also I came when my girlfriend sucked my dick in bed today and then we went to Starbucks, then watched the PS5 thing, then I went to my pretty rewarding job that’s been busy helping covid patients.

So if I’m projecting anything...it’s that life is pretty ok.

What are you projecting? That you are a sad cynical fuck? Sorry bro, can’t help you.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Boredfrom on June 11, 2020, 11:27:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahCPSAUKFR4

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaQpfCeXgAgU3rB?format=jpg)

This really is 2011 Tumblr user: The Game
Haha who the fuck is sad about high school ending shut the fuck up get the fuck out of here.

En, I think they are implying that the world is ending because a meteor.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: benjipwns on June 11, 2020, 11:28:13 PM
That thing is fucking ugly.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: benjipwns on June 11, 2020, 11:32:19 PM
https://twitter.com/Polygon/status/1271221144012632064
I have no idea how it is on consoles but NBA 2K20 loads in like five seconds off a 7200rpm HD.

It'd probably load faster but it tries to stream 2KTV during loading. You can be completely loaded but have to wait on 2KTV so you can cancel it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 11, 2020, 11:35:22 PM
Rahx, Joe Biden- both of you shut the fuck up already and take it to PMs or something.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2020, 11:36:15 PM
For someone who is preaching about not taking things seriously you sure are getting fucking triggerd.

I called you a cynical fuck, because it’s constant complaining. Before the conference it was “lol it’s jus going to be shitty overly cinematic sad dad games” then it became its “just woke indie shit”. Nowhere did I say you need to like the same stuff I do and nowhere did I say this was some amazing conference. I don’t care about any of the indie crap or most of the games shown. But the simple fact is I’m not a bitter fuck who hates everything. Sony showed a lot of games. Plenty of them looked good and there was lots of variety. I don’t give a fuck about Ratcher and Clank, but oh wow something to do with the SSD. I don’t care about most of the indie games, but I can realize that it’s good they are showing something more then God of War or Call of Duty. You want to make fun of the women ass game, but at least they are offering something for people who like Gone Home, a game I don’t care about. I don’t know if the Square Ip or Capcom up will be good, but it’s something to watch. I don’t care about GT7, but it’s nice to Sony continue a core series.The conference was not anything and everything I dreamed, but it showed the number one thing I’ve enjoyed about Playstatiom. That it has fucking games. But you and people like you are endless cynicism. Everything sucks or is good. No in between and that is fucking garbage to me.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: pilonv1 on June 11, 2020, 11:39:20 PM
https://twitter.com/Polygon/status/1271221144012632064
I have no idea how it is on consoles but NBA 2K20 loads in like five seconds off a 7200rpm HD.

It'd probably load faster but it tries to stream 2KTV during loading. You can be completely loaded but have to wait on 2KTV so you can cancel it.

Haven't played 2k20 but myplayer routinely took minutes to load in for the past few years. Then games would be another 20-30 seconds. When I played 2k16 off a PC SSD it was in seconds. Guessing that's where the difference is.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 11, 2020, 11:40:08 PM
Sorry Bork. Will do!

Thanks bruh.  Let's just keep it to arguing about vidya.  :P
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: benjipwns on June 11, 2020, 11:42:03 PM
Since we're comparing past reveals to this one, when they showed off the PS4 it was carried on stage by Kaz (or whoever) in one hand similar to how Kutaragi held up the PS2 with one hand to show it was not insanely large. (At E3 Sony also took the PS4's around to everyone to emphasize the compact size, some might remember Evilore doing the 2001 space odyssey reference relatively easily.) I noticed there wasn't a human being anywhere near this thing, only the controller for scale.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2020, 11:42:19 PM
I can't read, so my post got edited.

Playstation 5 rocks and so does everyone here!  :)

Edit-I can read. I made this post before I saw that. Also I never said PS5 rocks and everyone here most certainly does not rock.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: shosta on June 11, 2020, 11:47:18 PM
https://twitter.com/mhkchen/status/1271226345377288193

Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 11, 2020, 11:53:19 PM
https://twitter.com/mhkchen/status/1271226345377288193

The more accurate Sony version would have her completely covered up.
:exxy :exxy :exxy :exxy
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Tasty on June 11, 2020, 11:54:03 PM
I mean I totally came so..

Not so impressive...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLnWf1sQkjY
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 12, 2020, 12:05:19 AM
i feel like i watched a different presentation than everybody else? like yeah i won't be buying most of these games but they showed off a huge variety of gameplay, art styles, devs. there wasn't some magic game that will forever change how games are played but come the fuck on. this hardly looks like an endless parade of saturated bald space marines, or a system betting on gimmicks or whatever. sony just said hey you want video games here's a fuckton, you want big names well we got them all. yet the thread looks like a bunch of teenagers whining that their parents bought them a used car instead of brand new one or something. i'm not saying you need to be jizzing over this shit but it hardly looks like the creative death of the industry.
Excuse me it was all garbage because they like every conference post XBL Arcade spent time on indie. Also it was garbage because they showed nothing new. It also sucked that they didn’t show enough sequels. It was also also a pos that they didn’t have thier usual cinematic action games.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Akala on June 12, 2020, 12:06:44 AM
the fact Whitta had anything to do with the SE project kinda lowers my hype some.  :lol

I didn't see more than a few things that were super hype, but it was better than I expected it to be, especially after kicking off with GTAV (that I actually called earlier this week but wasn't serious). Lot of decent stuff, especially the sequels (GT7, SM, Horizon 2, RE8, etc). Some earlier into next gen than we figured, but a lot of stuff not really super impressive.

Was most impressed by Kena and Ratchet and Clank of all things, if there is a way to instantly port to different worlds rather than just hop around a map that would be pretty revolutionary.

Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 12, 2020, 12:11:36 AM
Mediocre as Whitta may be. It still will probably be better written then most of the stuff from the house of Kingdom Hearts.

It also is a good sign of more international interests. Square like Capcom probably knows they need help in the writing. And while Capcom may have lost some of the goffy charm, recent Resident Evil dialogue has been less awkward. Obviously I want Japanese Square Enix games to still feel Japanese, but it would be lie to say they don’t need some help. I would hope that last gen taught Japanese developers that now more then ever, being very Japanese is fine and accepted.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 12, 2020, 12:12:45 AM
the fact Whitta had anything to do with the SE project kinda lowers my hype some.  :lol

For real.  :lol

I also like this:

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Project Althia

The latest full-sized RPG adventure from Tomb Raider and Final Fantasy publisher Square Enix, Project Althia will be one of the first major titles to fully, and exclusively, make use of the PS5's massive graphics capabilities.

Except that it's also coming out for PC.  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 12, 2020, 12:15:29 AM
505 Games and Remedy announced that Control is getting a PS5 and XBox Series X port.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: remy on June 12, 2020, 12:49:47 AM
Life Got You Down? Load up the Sims 4 and open a Semen Cafe
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: DJ Bedroom on June 12, 2020, 12:50:29 AM
:drudge

I regret to inform you that the dumb furry hellgame has been cancelled because the person who is writing it is also the person that wrote this infamous Kotaku article: https://kotaku.com/animated-video-game-porn-could-be-a-lot-sexier-and-less-1838335168

I for one am shocked that such a game could come from such a weirdo. Shocked.
No fucking way man, that's perfect
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 12, 2020, 12:53:44 AM
nah.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: team filler on June 12, 2020, 12:55:17 AM
everyone here rahx  8)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 12, 2020, 12:55:30 AM
Lager, don't shit up the thread.  Talk about PS5 stuff please.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 12, 2020, 12:56:52 AM
PS5 is the succesor of the PS3
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 12, 2020, 12:58:05 AM
Life Got You Down? Load up the Sims 4 and open a Semen Cafe


Quote
The Uplifting Tale Of 'Dildo Face', A Sim Who Dared To Dream

In My Sims World Of Only Women, Marge Simpson Is Married To Taylor Swift

In Fable II, The Way To A Man's Heart Is Through Farts

What I Learned From Watching A Great Deal Of Overwatch Porn

I dunno; with articles like that, maybe it will be a pretty interesting game.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 12, 2020, 01:30:42 AM
Did they just let whoever designed the look of Playstation VR design everything this time?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: DJ Bedroom on June 12, 2020, 01:54:47 AM
Did they just let whoever designed the look of Playstation VR design everything this time?
PSVR looks fine, PS5 looks like a surfboard modem from 2005
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 12, 2020, 01:55:13 AM
I might get one when gran turismo comes out in 2024 :trumps
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 12, 2020, 02:00:32 AM
It was their diversity hire.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 12, 2020, 02:03:33 AM
The console probably comes with a code for 20% off and free shipping for a months worth of Soylent :stahp
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: OnlyRegret on June 12, 2020, 02:04:23 AM
Rahx, Joe Biden- both of you shut the fuck up already and take it to PMs or something.

see
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=47213.msg2873400#msg2873400

he's singling him out for a reason
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 12, 2020, 02:08:39 AM
I think the MS things were better cause they showed what the difference the hardware can do, Sony showed some cool games but you come away feeling its just PS4 pro pro (except Horizon)

spoiler (click to show/hide)
@joe

Clear sign you are senile cause you forgot your own name on the list

spoiler (click to show/hide)
just a joke
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Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Ghoul on June 12, 2020, 02:43:21 AM
That console is gonna be big as a gaming tower for sure. The event was just meh, it did show a lot of diversity which if fine, couple games in interested in, but Horizon was and is a boring game, it looks fantastic but GG don’t know how to make games interesting. I do wonder how close to the E3 presentation this actually was, I hope we see a few more games soon for it that actually show off what it can do. Instead of, well you can probably already play this on PS4 but we’re making it PS5 only to make it look like we have a good launch lineup.

Interested to see what Xbox does with their first party next month, but really not holding my breath, also because you can play the Xbox games on one and pc mostly at launch to sell their console they’ve really got to give people a reason to do so.

Also for fuck sake, can someone just release a price already this is getting stupid.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 12, 2020, 02:52:13 AM
Xbox is focusing on Gamepass as a strategy and service to sell Xbox and make money. I don't expect anything from their first party really beyond Gears, Halo, Forza and the odd 3rd party exclusive.

I think they will splash cash to get big games on Gamepass instead to push that service. Right now they have 10 million subs, that is massive.

Sony will easily have more exclusive first party games then MS. They are very much in the tentpole strategy game where exclusives sell consoles.

I think just like with Xbox Live back in the early 2000s MS has their shit together now and are really using the zeitgeist of Netflix, Spotify etc and it's working. I don't think they will win against PS5 though as Sony is a behemoth, but they will carve out a bigger piece this gen for sure.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: nudemacusers on June 12, 2020, 03:44:39 AM
The console is aggressively ugly. Like, astonishingly so.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: mormapope on June 12, 2020, 03:54:40 AM
The console is aggressively ugly. Like, astonishingly so.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/which-console-design-do-you-prefer-playstation-5-or-xbox-series-x.224941/

When the unofficial Sony HQ on the internet turns on you, you know someone fucked up.

Also, the PS5 needs a stand to be laid horizontally? Look at this pic comparison too

(https://abload.de/img/comparasioniykr9.jpg)

It's a fucking overdesigned monster.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 12, 2020, 04:01:14 AM
I have to see what exclusives MS is going to provide, but based on this gen I could easily skip Xbox next gen.  MS First party was just nothing to me this gen. I disliked Halo and Gears, finding them both bland and tired. About the only exclusive I really enjoyed was Quantum Break. I'm willing to see if they can change that, but buying studios like Ninja Theory does nothing for me. I don't believe they've ever made a good game. Gamepass is whatever to me. I'm still a loser so I buy physical and as I've said before, I'm not going to wait for Devil May Cry 6 or Control 2 to come to it. Also, at this point everything should be cross play. No excuse for say the next Battlefield not to be. So thats even more of a reason for me to skip the Xbox.

I like my One X, for the sheer build quality and power it has. But most of the games I've played on it are third party games that were also fine on the PS4 Pro.

So of course I'm going to go with PS5. I actually like Horizon a lot. Spider-man was fine, a really polished and high budget version of what Acitivsion had done and really nothing more. But it is something I'd like to play. I have more faith in Sony first party. People accuse me of being a Sony fanboy and loving thier sad dad games. I like Playstation, but hardly any Sony first party game would I consider my favorite game. They are summer blockbuster of games. I want to see Summer blockbuster's for the production values and cool sights, but you know I think something like Upgrade is a far more entertaining movie then whatever Marvel has ever put out. And that's how I view most of Sony first party. Fun enough games that I want to experince. Sometimes you get stuff like Bloodborne and Horizon which I really like. I wish they made more stuff like Gravity Rush. But either way, I've enjoyed most of thier output. And this conference just kind of said they are going to continue that.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: nudemacusers on June 12, 2020, 04:08:14 AM
Outside of the furry high school sitcom special episodes, GTA 5 and GT7 I fucked with all of this conference :yeshrug

Also happy the PS5 looks stupid and the XSEX looks stupid, make consoles look consoles look dumb again :rejoice
The Xbox is just kinda bland and  functional, along the lines of a sound bar or whatever... the ps5 looks like a bad early 00s sci-fi take on futurism.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: nudemacusers on June 12, 2020, 04:11:01 AM
The thing needing a stand to work in the configuration 90% of people will use it in :delicious
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: benjipwns on June 12, 2020, 04:13:18 AM
found another size comparison in that thread:
(https://preview.redd.it/m68gq2vi8e451.png?width=2868&format=png&auto=webp&s=9e00cbac6967e6cc65d7af41da370e66b2f31fbb)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: benjipwns on June 12, 2020, 04:16:31 AM
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I will never understand this forum. PS5 by a mile. It looks so slick and clean
:whatisthis
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: benjipwns on June 12, 2020, 04:18:20 AM
Quote
Quote
It looks like a cheap off-brand knock off some broke uncle picks up for his nephew at a nearby black market, it looks bad.
Post a picture of a cheap flea market item that looks like that then. You can't, of course, because you're wrong; it's fine. When PS5 inevitably outsells Xbox and has more acclaimed games for the fourth gen in a row, you can look back and remember that your whinging about the case ultimately didn't mean anything.
:lawd
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: benjipwns on June 12, 2020, 04:19:54 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/Tux2pQT.jpg)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: nudemacusers on June 12, 2020, 04:20:00 AM
It’s so ugly. I can’t believe it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: benjipwns on June 12, 2020, 04:22:13 AM
(https://abload.de/img/1591911379899d3jva.jpg)

 :jeb
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: benjipwns on June 12, 2020, 04:27:33 AM
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Going to take a Dremel and shave down the fins.
:lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 12, 2020, 04:29:38 AM
It dosen't look that bad when it's an overhead view...
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: who is ted danson? on June 12, 2020, 04:30:23 AM
The PS5 is so big that you can comfortably bend your Furrfriend over it and yiff them for as long as you like.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: nudemacusers on June 12, 2020, 04:31:30 AM
They’ll release a ps5 ‘slim’ in three years that will ape the bland/ugly design cues of the Xbox and it will be hailed by sonyponies as a return to form, an overdue exorcism of original ps5’s wild indulgence.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 12, 2020, 04:33:00 AM
That will take away something...like the one USB.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: benjipwns on June 12, 2020, 04:40:15 AM
The bottom/right side they won't show has to be where the fan is, right?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 12, 2020, 04:46:43 AM
(https://abload.de/img/1591911379899d3jva.jpg)

 :jeb

My provider ask me to send this old one back..

(https://i.ibb.co/0rdd9kJ/IMG-20200612-104105.jpg)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: nudemacusers on June 12, 2020, 04:56:59 AM
Quote
The PS5 looks like a console designed by Apple. The XSX looks like a waste paper bin. I’m not a huge fan of either but I’ll go PS5.
Lmao some of the takes itt...
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Ghoul on June 12, 2020, 05:04:27 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaRw4bkWkAAMcEX?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: nudemacusers on June 12, 2020, 06:47:22 AM
How is this supposed to sit on the horizontal stand anyway? By sheer weight? I doubt they’d muck up theirs beautiful tower with some sort of connective notch allowing it to lock in place. 🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nintex on June 12, 2020, 07:21:40 AM
Spider Man is a remaster

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/spider-man-miles-morales-is-a-remaster-and-expansion-sony-clarifies/amp/?__twitter_impress (https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/spider-man-miles-morales-is-a-remaster-and-expansion-sony-clarifies/amp/?__twitter_impress)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 12, 2020, 07:35:02 AM
Great, loving it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Ghoul on June 12, 2020, 09:05:06 AM
Spider Man is a remaster

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/spider-man-miles-morales-is-a-remaster-and-expansion-sony-clarifies/amp/?__twitter_impress (https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/spider-man-miles-morales-is-a-remaster-and-expansion-sony-clarifies/amp/?__twitter_impress)

The wording of that is very weird, some are saying it's a new game (remaster part is because same map ???), others saying remaster with DLC...
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Don Rumata on June 12, 2020, 09:06:16 AM
I still can't believe how ugly that design is, and it's also massive, wtf.

The presentation was fine, better than PS4's.
It had a couple of cool looking games, the graphics looked pretty good to great, depending on the title.
What i got from it, is that if you don't have a 4K OLED tv, you're not really getting much out of these next gen graphics.

The only game that got me really excited were RE8 and Hitman 3, but graphically speaking i was pretty pleased.

Also  :lol @ Square Enix and yet another one of their vaporwares on Luminous, GTFO with that shit.
The graphics of the real time snippets, didn't even look much better than XV on PC.
And of course,  :lol @ GTAV, not even showing what the improvements are.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: thisismyusername on June 12, 2020, 09:07:29 AM
The console is aggressively ugly. Like, astonishingly so.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/which-console-design-do-you-prefer-playstation-5-or-xbox-series-x.224941/

When the unofficial Sony HQ on the internet turns on you, you know someone fucked up.

Also, the PS5 needs a stand to be laid horizontally? Look at this pic comparison too

(https://abload.de/img/comparasioniykr9.jpg)

It's a fucking overdesigned monster.

found another size comparison in that thread:
(https://preview.redd.it/m68gq2vi8e451.png?width=2868&format=png&auto=webp&s=9e00cbac6967e6cc65d7af41da370e66b2f31fbb)

PS5 is in the running for Big Chungus, but how is it compared to the original X-box?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Don Rumata on June 12, 2020, 09:09:49 AM
Spider Man is a remaster

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/spider-man-miles-morales-is-a-remaster-and-expansion-sony-clarifies/amp/?__twitter_impress (https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/spider-man-miles-morales-is-a-remaster-and-expansion-sony-clarifies/amp/?__twitter_impress)

The wording of that is very weird, some are saying it's a new game (remaster part is because same map ???), others saying remaster with DLC...
The graphics look more or less like the old one, but with much better textures for the character, and more traffic density (for the little they show between all the depth of field and motion blur).
I can totally believe that it's a graphical remaster, with added Bronx & Queens (or whatever that rumor hinted at)as a Infamous First Light type of thing.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Svejk on June 12, 2020, 09:10:51 AM
Who cares what it looks like, folks.  :lol  It's not like any console has matched perfectly with your room, furniture or anything..  Size?  That's a different story..
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Ghoul on June 12, 2020, 09:13:25 AM
It looks like an old satellite box, Who on earth was like, yeah that's a good design, I think I would have preferred the dev kit tbh

Spider Man is a remaster

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/spider-man-miles-morales-is-a-remaster-and-expansion-sony-clarifies/amp/?__twitter_impress (https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/spider-man-miles-morales-is-a-remaster-and-expansion-sony-clarifies/amp/?__twitter_impress)

The wording of that is very weird, some are saying it's a new game (remaster part is because same map ???), others saying remaster with DLC...
The graphics look more or less like the old one, but with much better textures for the character, and more traffic density (for the little they show between all the depth of field and motion blur).
I can totally believe that it's a graphical remaster, with added Bronx & Queens (or whatever that rumor hinted at)as a Infamous First Light type of thing.

Yeah that's kinda what I am thinking too, just the messaging is all over the place with it, people are gonna be mad when it's not as long as the original.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 12, 2020, 09:16:03 AM
(https://abload.de/img/1591911379899d3jva.jpg)

 :jeb

This was posted on Discord and I thought it was the PS5 for a minute.  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Don Rumata on June 12, 2020, 09:16:25 AM
Who cares what it looks like, folks.  :lol  It's not like any console has matched perfectly with your room, furniture or anything..  Size?  That's a different story..
:trumps
It's not the deciding factor, but it's still worth commenting on, they pay these designers for a reason.  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Ghoul on June 12, 2020, 09:17:10 AM
(https://abload.de/img/1591911379899d3jva.jpg)

 :jeb

This was posted on Discord and I thought it was the PS5 for a minute.  :lol

I got you good with that haha :D
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 12, 2020, 09:26:29 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaUEMWLWAAIDANg?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: mormapope on June 12, 2020, 09:26:30 AM
Who cares what it looks like, folks.  :lol  It's not like any console has matched perfectly with your room, furniture or anything..  Size?  That's a different story..
:trumps
It's not the deciding factor, but it's still worth commenting on, they pay these designers for a reason.  :doge

Also, how well a console is cooled/heat dissipation matters above all else. The Xbox X has a huge fan and a lot of open air flow, it's hard to tell on the PS5 where the fans actually are.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Ghoul on June 12, 2020, 09:30:55 AM
https://twitter.com/ign/status/1271368290254938112
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: thisismyusername on June 12, 2020, 09:34:53 AM
So no need to buy a PS5 then, bar Demon's Souls which probably won't run as good as the emulated PS3 version? :doge :doge :doge

Guess I can hunt down a PS4 to do Uncharted 4 and sell that after all, like I originally planned. :rejoice
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 12, 2020, 09:36:34 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaQsSU8XkAI9Jwp?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 12, 2020, 09:36:58 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaQ8Cs6VAAAr9Vr?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 12, 2020, 09:37:15 AM
https://twitter.com/matthiasellis/status/1271192849917321217
https://twitter.com/StationDOOD/status/1271257970370686976
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Svejk on June 12, 2020, 10:05:31 AM
Who cares what it looks like, folks.  :lol  It's not like any console has matched perfectly with your room, furniture or anything..  Size?  That's a different story..
:trumps
It's not the deciding factor, but it's still worth commenting on, they pay these designers for a reason.  :doge
Apparently not enough.  :rodney
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 12, 2020, 10:08:12 AM
HAWT TAEK: If the PSCinco was all black (or black with subtle grey/blue highlights) there would not be this much uproar. It would still look DUMB, but it's the white that makes it OFFENSIVE.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 12, 2020, 10:09:37 AM
Who cares what it looks like, folks.  :lol  It's not like any console has matched perfectly with your room, furniture or anything..  Size?  That's a different story..

I do?

It's not the make or break for me. But pretending how any product looks isn't important, is rather silly.  I'm sure my dad who for whatever reason fairly often buy Playstations, would also look at that and give it a hard big think, if it's as ugly and big as it seems. Ps5 and Ps3 slim was a lot easier to mix in between other media players than this Alienware monster
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: BisMarckie on June 12, 2020, 10:14:11 AM
I also think that the new Xbox looks ugly as sin. Good thing I don’t really care and my wife doesn’t either since the gaming stuff is isolated in my gaming room  office :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Akala on June 12, 2020, 10:16:55 AM
how can you not like a monolith?  :doge

agree with take that if there was a black option no one would really care.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: BisMarckie on June 12, 2020, 10:18:03 AM
Big black console :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: nudemacusers on June 12, 2020, 10:30:53 AM
Who cares what it looks like, folks.  :lol  It's not like any console has matched perfectly with your room, furniture or anything..  Size?  That's a different story..
Imagine living a life in which you don’t care about aesthetic harmony.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 12, 2020, 10:32:53 AM
Big black console :doge

:phil
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rufus on June 12, 2020, 10:41:11 AM
Who cares what it looks like, folks.  :lol  It's not like any console has matched perfectly with your room, furniture or anything..  Size?  That's a different story..
Imagine living a life in which you don’t care about aesthetic harmony.
(https://i.imgur.com/01nqHrv.jpg)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 12, 2020, 10:43:15 AM
Just had a big thought lads :titus

What if they made the ps5 look stupid on purpose so they’d get a shit load of free marketing via memes :rollsafe
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 12, 2020, 11:09:11 AM
https://twitter.com/Danny8bit/status/1271194045453176833
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 12, 2020, 11:11:19 AM
Really curious about Little Devil Inside. It looks pretty dope.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Ghoul on June 12, 2020, 11:14:04 AM
Stray looks awesome though I will give it that.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Don Rumata on June 12, 2020, 11:15:26 AM
Really curious about Little Devil Inside. It looks pretty dope.
I backed the KS, what feels like 20+ years ago.  :notlikethis
The game is looking very good tho. :thinking
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 12, 2020, 11:20:54 AM
https://twitter.com/LovePotatoes04/status/1271256981366427655
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 12, 2020, 11:43:11 AM
HAWT TAEK: If the PSCinco was all black (or black with subtle grey/blue highlights) there would not be this much uproar. It would still look DUMB, but it's the white that makes it OFFENSIVE.

It helps.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaTg98tXsAAZh8p?format=jpg&name=large)

The shape reminds me of a cat sitting down.  Can't unsee it now.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: paprikastaude on June 12, 2020, 11:52:02 AM
(https://abload.de/img/1591911379899d3jva.jpg)

 :jeb

What is this, a PS5 for ants?

HAWT TAEK: If the PSCinco was all black (or black with subtle grey/blue highlights) there would not be this much uproar. It would still look DUMB, but it's the white that makes it OFFENSIVE.

It helps.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaTg98tXsAAZh8p?format=jpg&name=large)

The shape reminds me of a cat sitting down.  Can't unsee it now.

In horizontal it's a duck's spout.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: paprikastaude on June 12, 2020, 12:15:31 PM
Silent Hill and RE4 remake leaks were both bogus. I want to believe but nahhhh. "Insiders" seem to be even less reliable these days.

Sony is woke as hell now though, seemed like every game protagonist was female, non-white, or a cartoon. White male gang truly are the most opressed  :notlikethis

RE4 could be real, because Capcom definitely seems to have a real leaking problem. RE7 return to horror and Monster Hunter reboot were called before their announcements, even though no one believed it and the rumours stayed relatively lowkey. And now with RE8 several people called everything from werewolves, VII-lage, to evil Chris killing Ethan's family.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: nudemacusers on June 12, 2020, 12:17:16 PM
Who cares what it looks like, folks.  :lol  It's not like any console has matched perfectly with your room, furniture or anything..  Size?  That's a different story..
Imagine living a life in which you don’t care about aesthetic harmony.
(https://i.imgur.com/01nqHrv.jpg)
This is harmonious with my life  :hmph
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rufus on June 12, 2020, 12:22:55 PM
Who cares what it looks like, folks.  :lol  It's not like any console has matched perfectly with your room, furniture or anything..  Size?  That's a different story..
Imagine living a life in which you don’t care about aesthetic harmony.
(https://i.imgur.com/01nqHrv.jpg)
This is harmonious with my life  :hmph
I don't even want to know how.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 12, 2020, 12:24:45 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/YQvc5Df/Ea-RT8qk-Xs-AAbqvc.jpg)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 12, 2020, 12:25:39 PM
Controller still looks shit, maybe next gen, guys
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 12, 2020, 12:51:51 PM
Insomniac is saying Spider-Man is a standalone game.

https://twitter.com/insomniacgames/status/1271468232881422336
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Ghoul on June 12, 2020, 01:12:35 PM
Even the dev is unsure what they're doing.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 12, 2020, 01:23:06 PM
I'm gonna guess it will be a "standalone" DLC-like, cheaper game, and will be also included in Spooderman PS5 complete edition.


HAWT TAEK: If the PSCinco was all black (or black with subtle grey/blue highlights) there would not be this much uproar. It would still look DUMB, but it's the white that makes it OFFENSIVE.

It helps.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaTg98tXsAAZh8p?format=jpg&name=large)

The shape reminds me of a cat sitting down.  Can't unsee it now.

You think that's a coincidence? They showed two Cat Simulator games in the event  :jeb
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: toku on June 12, 2020, 01:57:17 PM
https://youtu.be/wGEAJGvA3hQ
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Tasty on June 12, 2020, 01:59:00 PM
It’s so ugly. I can’t believe it.

It stands out from the PS lineup as much as the PSX does tbh. PS2 -> PS3 (especially Slim) -> PS4 felt like something of a natural evolution. PS1 and PS5 stand out.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Tasty on June 12, 2020, 02:04:13 PM
For real, for real... this thing honestly looks like it takes design cues from the fake Nintendo ON. :doge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX2smM87r14

The swooshes, the glossy plastic "shell" covering a dark gray "core," and seemingly random curvatures... I'm not the only one seeing this right? :dunno

This is what a Nintendo fan thought looked cool in 2005 :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 12, 2020, 02:15:11 PM
PS5 doesn't allow you to MAKE GAMES tho.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Brehvolution on June 12, 2020, 02:27:32 PM
The UHD drive throws off the balance. The digital only version looks fine.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Tasty on June 12, 2020, 02:36:07 PM
PS5 doesn't allow you to MAKE GAMES tho.

DREAMS2 :nintendo
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 12, 2020, 03:49:00 PM
More like Jar of Coke amirite.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 12, 2020, 03:50:02 PM
PS5 doesn't allow you to MAKE GAMES tho.

DREAMS2 :nintendo

Don't even need a PS5- just use Dreams to make all the new releases!
:rollsafe
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Tasty on June 12, 2020, 03:51:39 PM
Don't even need games, just go to sleep :idont
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 12, 2020, 03:53:15 PM
Don't even need games, just go to sleep :idont

You don't even need sleep, just death.  :killme
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: nudemacusers on June 12, 2020, 09:46:33 PM
Can’t die if you never lived.  :walkaway
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Don Rumata on June 12, 2020, 09:58:00 PM
Can’t die if you never lived.  :walkaway
Can’t die if you never lived. :rollsafe
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 12, 2020, 10:08:28 PM
Play-Asia marks up their prices on new consoles, so $600 is a good bet.

https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1271572403190001664
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Don Rumata on June 12, 2020, 10:14:03 PM
I would genuinely want it to be 699, just for the meltdowns.  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: mormapope on June 12, 2020, 10:40:31 PM
My urge to buy a Switch has just grown even more :doge



Pls Nintendo, manufacture more non lites, I waited too long and I'm suffering  :noah
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Tasty on June 12, 2020, 11:10:40 PM
Play-Asia marks up their prices on new consoles, so $600 is a good bet.

https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1271572403190001664

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/Ihh1B3Zms29Jaq4YRm/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 12, 2020, 11:12:27 PM
(https://media.eventhubs.com/images/2020/06/12_ps03.jpg)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Coax on June 13, 2020, 12:52:53 AM
Quarantine transformed Kyle Bosman in to Jarvis Cocker, apparently.

It's more sinister

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://i.imgur.com/9z4TzEo.png)
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Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Ghoul on June 13, 2020, 04:28:15 AM
What’s the latest they’ve ever revealed a price? I swear usually they’ve released it by now.

Are they actually just going to wait until a month before launch to say how much it is?

It’s kind of worrying that they’re so hesitant to say it costs this, can’t wait for it to be $700 and people to flip out
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nintex on June 13, 2020, 06:28:10 AM
$599 - $699 at launch for a model with a disk drive seems realistic.

The NVme SSD's are still quite expensive.
RDNA2 gpu's aren't even out in the wild yet and ship at the end of this year.
That doesn't even factor in the manufacturing issues caused by the COVID-19 pandemic so they likely won't have a ton of supply either.
And in general demand for consoles is high.

Xbox One and PS4 were quite cheap because Microsoft and Sony picked off the shelf parts.
The PS4 shipped November 2013, a full year after the Radeon 7800 series the GPU was based on shipped, which by then had already seen a price drop.

The Xbox One X shipped at $500, so unless MS sells it as a loss they're not going to hit a price below that at launch.

I'm saying $699 for both and one of them might even go as high as $749 depending on supply.
Microsoft releases most if not all their games cross gen with smart delivery.
Plus they're working on a cheaper revision that sits between X and PS5.

The full line-up will probably look like this:

Xbox One D - $199
Nintendo Switch Lite - $199
PS4 Slim - $249
Nintendo Switch - $299
PS4 Pro - $349
Xbox One X - $399
Xbox Series S - $499
PS5 D - $599
PS5 - $699
Xbox Series X - $749
 
For the holidays or pre-orders they might shave off $50 from the price.
Next year when the dust settles and production has ramped up, they'll probably cut $100 by summer.

There's is no reason for both MS and Sony to launch these machines at a loss.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: who is ted danson? on June 13, 2020, 06:56:01 AM
I want both the XXX and the PS5 to be silly money purely for the meltdown potential  8)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Ghoul on June 13, 2020, 07:00:29 AM
Sony will deffo make the disc drive version more expensive so they can trick people into going digital...

Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Pennywise on June 13, 2020, 08:21:46 AM
What’s the latest they’ve ever revealed a price? I swear usually they’ve released it by now.

Are they actually just going to wait until a month before launch to say how much it is?

It’s kind of worrying that they’re so hesitant to say it costs this, can’t wait for it to be $700 and people to flip out
PS4 and X1 was during E3. So basically these days, but they both had their reveals earlier. Especially PS4 had that February event. I assume they're gonna wait until August when they've got the other event. Unless MS already announces their price and they'll try to counter it.

And of course they'll try to get people into digital.
No more used games, higher margin and shit.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: thisismyusername on June 13, 2020, 08:25:17 AM
I want both the XXX and the PS5 to be silly money purely for the meltdown potential  8)

And pushing people to PC. Way spend $200 less when you get a future proofed hardware for the next console generation. :smug
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: mormapope on June 13, 2020, 08:32:51 AM
$599 - $699 at launch for a model with a disk drive seems realistic.

The NVme SSD's are still quite expensive.
RDNA2 gpu's aren't even out in the wild yet and ship at the end of this year.
That doesn't even factor in the manufacturing issues caused by the COVID-19 pandemic so they likely won't have a ton of supply either.
And in general demand for consoles is high.

Xbox One and PS4 were quite cheap because Microsoft and Sony picked off the shelf parts.
The PS4 shipped November 2013, a full year after the Radeon 7800 series the GPU was based on shipped, which by then had already seen a price drop.

The Xbox One X shipped at $500, so unless MS sells it as a loss they're not going to hit a price below that at launch.

I'm saying $699 for both and one of them might even go as high as $749 depending on supply.
Microsoft releases most if not all their games cross gen with smart delivery.
Plus they're working on a cheaper revision that sits between X and PS5.

The full line-up will probably look like this:

Xbox One D - $199
Nintendo Switch Lite - $199
PS4 Slim - $249
Nintendo Switch - $299
PS4 Pro - $349
Xbox One X - $399
Xbox Series S - $499
PS5 D - $599
PS5 - $699
Xbox Series X - $749
 
For the holidays or pre-orders they might shave off $50 from the price.
Next year when the dust settles and production has ramped up, they'll probably cut $100 by summer.

There's is no reason for both MS and Sony to launch these machines at a loss.

Your analysis isn't too flawed, but this gen was atypical for consoles not being sold at a loss for the first couple or few years of a console's lifecycle. The 360 and PS3, the latter priced at $599, was still sold at a loss.

I don't think Sony has a solid plan for the next few years besides producing their first party games, along with following trends set by competitors or tech in general.

Microsoft is putting a lot of effort into Game Pass being the future of game distribution for consoles. Essentially what Steam is for PC and Netflix is for TV and movies, Game Pass will be for console.

Not to mention, there is no way Microsoft is going to sell 4 different SKUs or try to get that shelf space for retailers. XboxOneX will be discontinued, replaced with Xbox Lockhart, Xbox One S still gets sold,Xbox Series X will be the premium version.

Xbone S: $199
Xbox Lockhart: $299 or $399
Xbox Series X: $499 or $599

There is absolutely no way four or five Xbixs will sit on the same shelf.  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Don Rumata on June 13, 2020, 08:44:45 AM
$599 - $699 at launch for a model with a disk drive seems realistic.

The NVme SSD's are still quite expensive.
RDNA2 gpu's aren't even out in the wild yet and ship at the end of this year.
That doesn't even factor in the manufacturing issues caused by the COVID-19 pandemic so they likely won't have a ton of supply either.
And in general demand for consoles is high.

Xbox One and PS4 were quite cheap because Microsoft and Sony picked off the shelf parts.
The PS4 shipped November 2013, a full year after the Radeon 7800 series the GPU was based on shipped, which by then had already seen a price drop.

The Xbox One X shipped at $500, so unless MS sells it as a loss they're not going to hit a price below that at launch.

I'm saying $699 for both and one of them might even go as high as $749 depending on supply.
Microsoft releases most if not all their games cross gen with smart delivery.
Plus they're working on a cheaper revision that sits between X and PS5.

The full line-up will probably look like this:

Xbox One D - $199
Nintendo Switch Lite - $199
PS4 Slim - $249
Nintendo Switch - $299
PS4 Pro - $349
Xbox One X - $399
Xbox Series S - $499
PS5 D - $599
PS5 - $699
Xbox Series X - $749
 
For the holidays or pre-orders they might shave off $50 from the price.
Next year when the dust settles and production has ramped up, they'll probably cut $100 by summer.

There's is no reason for both MS and Sony to launch these machines at a loss.
Hilarious potential aside, spending 699€ to play games that barely look different from what we got, would be real odd.
For all their talk about the biggest generational leap ever, they certainly didn't show it.

The only thing was that forced gimmick in the Ratchet & Clank demo with the shifting worlds, the rest was PS4 games with a bit better fur shading and rock textures.
At the start of every generation you ofc. have the wave of nerds with too much cash buying whatever and whatever price, but for a normal consumer, how are you justifying that pricepoint?

And keep in mind that, contrary to when PS3 came out at 599, now entertainment options are ten-folds.
From playing Fortnite on your phone to watching Netflix on your watch, even PC seems to be bigger than it was.

They keep talking about value, but i'm still not clear where it's at.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Ghoul on June 13, 2020, 09:16:37 AM
Well it’s weird as the whole graphic fidelity argument is that games can’t really advance anymore at the moment, it’s super weird though, that’s why Sony are all about the oh look instant load times, despite games like 2k already having a two second load time... once the gen gets into swing I’m sure we’ll see some truly next gen stuff, but as for launch there isn’t any games that fully use the consoles power, well I hope not anyway as from what we’ve seen none have been super impressive at all.

The cost is pretty high for a console especially one where you’re going to be paying the absolute maximum for games if you stupidly choose digital only.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Don Rumata on June 13, 2020, 09:26:12 AM
That's the main reason why i'd never go digital only on console.
On PC i can buy my games (digitally) from wherever, but on console i can only do so from Sony's store.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 13, 2020, 10:42:32 AM
That's the main reason why i'd never go digital only on console.
On PC i can buy my games (digitally) from wherever, but on console i can only do so from Sony's store.

You can buy PSN game codes from other sites (or did you mean the same game from different storefronts like Steam and GOG?).  But they don't usually get discounted as much or as quickly as PC games do so it seems like most people just get them directly on their PS4s.

Another minor gripe I have with console storefronts is that it takes longer for games and updates to download from them compared to the PC storefronts.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: mormapope on June 13, 2020, 10:47:01 AM
Well it’s weird as the whole graphic fidelity argument is that games can’t really advance anymore at the moment, it’s super weird though, that’s why Sony are all about the oh look instant load times, despite games like 2k already having a two second load time... once the gen gets into swing I’m sure we’ll see some truly next gen stuff, but as for launch there isn’t any games that fully use the consoles power, well I hope not anyway as from what we’ve seen none have been super impressive at all.

The cost is pretty high for a console especially one where you’re going to be paying the absolute maximum for games if you stupidly choose digital only.

Tbh though, digital console sales are pretty close to steam sales regarding pricing, on Xbox anyway. Every week there's usually a publisher sale, sales for different seasons, AAA games, indie games, it's comparable to PC regarding that. Steam still has the largest library of games of course.

A point I made about the next gen Xbox, you can buy one at launch, and with a gamepads sub, you're walking away with an instant library of games. Every first party launch title included.

Regardless of pricing, digital vs. physical for distribution and how people get their games is around 40% or 50%. And that's taking into account AAA games sold at retailers, not digital only games (all indie or free to play games).

Physical games will never die out completely, but we're moving away from that being the norm.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Don Rumata on June 13, 2020, 10:55:15 AM
That's the main reason why i'd never go digital only on console.
On PC i can buy my games (digitally) from wherever, but on console i can only do so from Sony's store.

You can buy PSN game codes from other sites (or did you mean the same game from different storefronts like Steam and GOG?).  But they don't usually get discounted as much or as quickly as PC games do so it seems like most people just get them directly on their PS4s.

Another minor gripe I have with console storefronts is that it takes longer for games and updates to download from them compared to the PC storefronts.
No, PSN codes count i suppose, but as you say there's very little price variation, and less avenues.
Decent prices all seem to be from "accounts" rather than game codes, whenever i look.

So getting rid of the game used is still the best option to save money on new games, on consoles.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 13, 2020, 11:59:31 AM
:dead

https://twitter.com/RedMakuzawa/status/1271773319394557952
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 13, 2020, 12:08:54 PM
I want both the XXX and the PS5 to be silly money purely for the meltdown potential  8)


At least with X you can get on that ultimate plus plan like it’s a phone lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 13, 2020, 12:17:41 PM
Ive rewatched some of the vids in hd now (not the crappy stream) and ratchet and horizon do look better then current gen.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 13, 2020, 12:20:52 PM
:dead

https://twitter.com/RedMakuzawa/status/1271773319394557952

Sony has a history of making standalone dlc that you can buy as a taster. They often include those first on psn plus so people like it and buy the full game.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 13, 2020, 12:51:27 PM
:dead

https://twitter.com/RedMakuzawa/status/1271773319394557952

Brings up a good point-  Can we get a source on all this Playstation 5 reveal information?  :awesome :brain
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 13, 2020, 12:54:13 PM
Sony has a history of making standalone dlc that you can buy as a taster. They often include those first on psn plus so people like it and buy the full game.

Doubting this will be budget priced like Infamous: First Light and will be priced more like Uncharted Lost Legacy or a full $60, though.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 13, 2020, 02:37:47 PM
 :ohhh


https://twitter.com/Nimorp/status/1271204066417401856
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 13, 2020, 02:51:07 PM
I mean yeah, but then again what does that mean. You've got full games that range anything between <10 and >50h of gameplay.

They're kind of dancing around it, but given the "subtitle" bit I'm guessing this is probably shorter than the previous one, and priced at 30 or 40 buckaroos, that doesn't require the OG game.

And they'll have the "complete PS5 edition" including both at $60.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 13, 2020, 02:51:44 PM
:ohhh


https://twitter.com/Nimorp/status/1271204066417401856

Not being slick black disrespects the legacy of chad daddy tho :stahp
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 13, 2020, 04:14:44 PM
I dunno, is there any credibility to the previous rumor the PSCinco's cost was roughly $450? (honestly considering everything that's in it, I'm not sure, although maybe they got money back from some out of business router company for taking dead inventory off their hands for the shell of the units)

I could see a reality where the Cinco disc version comes in at $500, the digital version at $400, and the series X is already rumored to be $600 right?

WHO CAN SAY BUT SPECULATION IS FUN

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Both regular, non-nerfed consoles will be $600
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Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 13, 2020, 04:16:51 PM
Every time I think about the GTA 5 opener I start laughing. Great show.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Pennywise on June 13, 2020, 04:39:37 PM
I dunno, is there any credibility to the previous rumor the PSCinco's cost was roughly $450? (honestly considering everything that's in it, I'm not sure, although maybe they got money back from some out of business router company for taking dead inventory off their hands for the shell of the units)

I could see a reality where the Cinco disc version comes in at $500, the digital version at $400, and the series X is already rumored to be $600 right?

WHO CAN SAY BUT SPECULATION IS FUN

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Both regular, non-nerfed consoles will be $600
[close]

BOM cost of the xbox was a bit higher than PS5. It just depends on what they're going to do both.
Eating cost or living with a small profit margin.

They're surely gonna eat more cost for the digital version. After all that one bring in more cash in the long run.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 13, 2020, 05:02:53 PM
This just started with a PS5 game premiere that wasn't included on Sony's stream.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_wo_EYfqAY
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Ghoul on June 13, 2020, 05:23:00 PM
What game was that?! I’m done watching streams after that PC gaming one.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 13, 2020, 05:24:48 PM
What game was that?! I’m done watching streams after that PC gaming one.

Quote
TeamKill Media has released a new trailer for Quantum Error, its upcoming “cosmic horror” first-person shooter for PlayStation 5 and PlayStation 4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jloV2V0IO_E
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Ghoul on June 13, 2020, 05:26:10 PM
Cheers will watch it. I bet this one will be better than the PC gaming show.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 13, 2020, 06:57:20 PM
Skipped through it and it seems like its full of jank indie stuff.

They also had the Ember lab bros "talk a bit more" about Kena. Which was introduced as an "exclusive" thing :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Don Rumata on June 13, 2020, 07:13:43 PM
I watched all 3 presentations.
Completely skippable, all 3.

Will not waste my time with the rest, until we hit a big one (cyberpunk/microsoft/Ubisoft, etc)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Svejk on June 13, 2020, 07:52:05 PM
That shmup looked cool.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Ghoul on June 13, 2020, 07:54:22 PM
I watched all 3 presentations.
Completely skippable, all 3.

Will not waste my time with the rest, until we hit a big one (cyberpunk/microsoft/Ubisoft, etc)

Ubi is an instant skip for me. After mr caffeine I can’t go back.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Don Rumata on June 13, 2020, 08:49:24 PM
I watched all 3 presentations.
Completely skippable, all 3.

Will not waste my time with the rest, until we hit a big one (cyberpunk/microsoft/Ubisoft, etc)

Ubi is an instant skip for me. After mr caffeine I can’t go back.
Ubisoft games tend to be my jam, and they haven't been particularly annoying with their E3 presentations, as long as you have your phone to look away when the dancing starts.
I'm really interested in both AC and Watch Dogs Legion, plus i hope to see something of Beyond Good & Evil 2 and maybe a tease for Splinter Cell..
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Coax on June 13, 2020, 10:07:07 PM
The UHD drive throws off the balance. The digital only version looks fine.

Sony will deffo make the disc drive version more expensive so they can trick people into going digital...

The conflicting thing to me with this is Sony is an important member of the Blu-Ray association, pushing both UHD BD as a medium and having published a consistent record of reference-tier discs. To make the designs so markedly different (and assuming price differences) is disappointing from the perspective of marketing UHD BD to a wider audience (selfish disclosure: I always hope UHD BD becomes more popular to encourage studios to release films I'm interested in on the format :P).
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: paprikastaude on June 13, 2020, 11:02:24 PM
I watched all 3 presentations.
Completely skippable, all 3.

Will not waste my time with the rest, until we hit a big one (cyberpunk/microsoft/Ubisoft, etc)

Ubi is an instant skip for me. After mr caffeine I can’t go back.
Ubisoft games tend to be my jam, and they haven't been particularly annoying with their E3 presentations, as long as you have your phone to look away when the dancing starts.
I'm really interested in both AC and Watch Dogs Legion, plus i hope to see something of Beyond Good & Evil 2 and maybe a tease for Splinter Cell..

Reminds me that Michel Ancel's Sony game seems dead for good now... Might have been my game of choice now that BG&E2 is online-only. Though I wouldn't be surprised if that also becomes vaporware.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Don Rumata on June 13, 2020, 11:08:26 PM
I watched all 3 presentations.
Completely skippable, all 3.

Will not waste my time with the rest, until we hit a big one (cyberpunk/microsoft/Ubisoft, etc)

Ubi is an instant skip for me. After mr caffeine I can’t go back.
Ubisoft games tend to be my jam, and they haven't been particularly annoying with their E3 presentations, as long as you have your phone to look away when the dancing starts.
I'm really interested in both AC and Watch Dogs Legion, plus i hope to see something of Beyond Good & Evil 2 and maybe a tease for Splinter Cell..

Reminds me that Michel Ancel's Sony game seems dead for good now... Might have been my game of choice now that BG&E2 is online-only. Though I wouldn't be surprised if that also becomes vaporware.
Dont remind me of Wild... :fbm
Probably my most anticipated game ever.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 13, 2020, 11:30:31 PM
I mean I realize that even if AA games have somewhat come back, that games themselves are still expensive to make and so yeah we are going to get less games. So indie games become nice "fodder" to show off. A bit cynical, as they do deserve a spotlight.

But I watched the GamesRadar show which yeah why would I expect a game website to have some awesome show. Still it highlights why I don't care that much about the indie scene.

I don't consider myself a pretentious person, so I like my guns and shooting. So I'm not striving for games as an artform with the ability to do more than that. It's possible that I could enjoy anything, it's just I'm not on twitter decrying that another Call of Duty sold millions and it's a shame for the industry.

But it's also that indie games just kind of blend together. Lots of meh looking platformers trading on whimsy, yet another 2d game with some sort of unique art stye but whatever gameplay, or a jrpg want to be that claims to be inspired by Chrono Trigger.

I told my friend that I'm waiting for people that got into games with the PS1 and PS2 to make their indie games. Who's inspiration was Xenogears and Metal Gear Solid 2 and want to make games like that. That Cris Tales game looks great and seemed ok by the demo. But like every jrpg indie does nothing for me because it's like "oh we want to make Disney light adventures with Chrono gameplay". Where's my dark and teen angst edgy Xenogears or Evangelion inspired jrpg that Japan won't make?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Positive Touch on June 14, 2020, 12:12:04 AM
when i look at the indie scene i see a ton of competent looking games that seem like they might be fun but they have little identity of their own. like yes the gameplay looks awesome but that's because it's a carbon copy of some mechanics that were perfected decades ago. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: benjipwns on June 14, 2020, 12:23:24 AM
Seeing what gets published on Steam, I find it hard to say anything specific about the broad "indie scene" but it's really easy to say things about the "indie scene" that gets promoted to event trailer status and lots of current games journalists coverage.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: paprikastaude on June 14, 2020, 12:44:21 AM
Overreliance on indie support usually means that your platform just doesn't have an exclusive interesting lineup yet, see Vita, early PS4, Switch etc.  :doge Thankfully PS5 seems to keep the ball somewhat rolling from all kinds of publishers this gen. Indies can be a decent distraction, but very few of them I ever considered outstanding. I also don't buy new platforms for them, when most of these titles will run on my toaster PC even.

There's so many things "inspired by Zelda", inspired by Contra, Metroidvanias, Roguelikes, inspired by Ducktales, by this and that - yet it's clear that most of these small teams or one-man-projects just can't compete with the originals that were designed by pros with a budget in their prime. While lacking the resources to really expand the scope of their games, unless you go for randomly generated (i.e. inferior) level design, or cut gameplay altogether in 3D walking simulators. Mark of the Ninja and Cuphead are some of the very few indie games I consider the best in their genre. Iirc both of them had Microsoft support. Also both at least try to have their own game design and identity instead of aiming too heavily to be fan copies of classics.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 14, 2020, 05:16:31 AM
I enjoyed the stream with mr north

That ghostrunner game looks cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6Crs2x6Dx0&t=27s
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 14, 2020, 10:06:23 AM
Mirrors Edgy
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nintex on June 14, 2020, 10:43:05 AM
https://twitter.com/eurogamer/status/1272135294750466048 (https://twitter.com/eurogamer/status/1272135294750466048)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rufus on June 14, 2020, 10:48:57 AM
"Value" aka 600$ :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 14, 2020, 10:54:32 AM
550.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Tasty on June 14, 2020, 11:20:30 AM
https://twitter.com/eurogamer/status/1272135294750466048 (https://twitter.com/eurogamer/status/1272135294750466048)

This thing isn't even pushing a brand-new physical media format :confused
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Tasty on June 14, 2020, 11:22:57 AM
Arrogant Sony is back :lawd
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Trent Dole on June 14, 2020, 11:34:52 AM
Will they really dare to charge 599 US dollars?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: mormapope on June 14, 2020, 11:43:32 AM
Will they really dare to charge 599 US dollars?

With Covid affecting manufacturing, along with an incredibly probable recession, Sony's strategy is most likely making a couple million consoles, or something very conservative, consoles either trickle out or sell out. Basically make small batches of consoles and drip feed them to consumers.

Microsoft will do something similar. At least with Xbox shit though, the value of game pass and BC will help justify the price tag. Sony is basically asking people to drop $700+ for a console, game, sales tax.


Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 14, 2020, 12:17:16 PM
It's gonna be interesting with Sony moving development over to the PS5 when sales won't be that high, especially in the first year. I imagine they'll still have to put ps4 games out like MS.

Arrogant Sony™ won't do this, but I imagine most third parties will.  It was like this with the PS4 for a while.  IIRC for almost two years after the PS4 launch, a lot of games still came out for PS3 and in some cases the only difference was the resolution and/or 30 vs. 60 FPS.

I bet despite the promise of a lot of PS4 games being backwards compatible, Sony will still re-release at least one game on the PS5 with little-to-no discernible differences at all from PS4.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Tasty on June 14, 2020, 01:08:58 PM
I know what could justify the price...

(https://i.imgur.com/wAIV7k7.gif)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 14, 2020, 01:16:22 PM
Tasty talking about price while buying Nintendo's 10yo hardware for 300 bucks day 1 :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: mormapope on June 14, 2020, 01:22:46 PM
Like it or not though, that 10 year old hardware has been the most popular and successful world wide  :doge

Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nintex on June 14, 2020, 01:27:28 PM
I'll be surprised if it lands anywhere below $699
I bet those fancy controllers cost $79 a piece. Switch Pro Controllers already cost $69 and Joy-Cons $79

'Value' means they'll probably pack-in the stand next to the free game (Astrobot) and the controller.

The earlier rumors indicated that Sony would release a PS5 and PS5 Pro but they probably settled for specs right in the middle.
Specs were also boosted from the rumored 9TF to 10+ TF. Likely making it more expensive.

Microsoft may offer the $499 option with the 7TF 'Lockhart' down the line. For the first 1 - 2 years these are to be premium machines though as they continue to sell PS4 and Xbox One models.
MS and Sony are basically both waiting for the other to reveal pricing so they can undercut the competition or convince their management to take a hit on the bottom line.

A comparable 9TF RDNA GPU (5700XT) from AMD would set you back $400 without Ray Tracing support.
The PS5 is using a newer RDNA 2.0 architecture which won't be available for PC GPU's until late 2020.
I can see Microsoft dropping the Series X at $749 at launch or even $799 at 12TF. Unless they managed to cut costs somewhere.

Unlike the previous gen we're getting a real generational leap on paper.
These machines were designed for the economic boom not a recession.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Tasty on June 14, 2020, 01:30:29 PM
Tasty talking about price while buying Nintendo's 10yo hardware for 300 bucks day 1 :lol

Wow, got 'em :asuka
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: mormapope on June 14, 2020, 01:31:46 PM
I'll be surprised if it lands anywhere below $699
I bet those fancy controllers cost $79 a piece. Switch Pro Controllers already cost $69 and Joy-Cons $79

'Value' means they'll probably pack-in the stand next to the free game (Astrobot) and the controller.

The earlier rumors indicated that Sony would release a PS5 and PS5 Pro but they probably settled for specs right in the middle.
Specs were also boosted from the rumored 9TF to 10+ TF. Likely making it more expensive.

Microsoft may offer the $499 option with the 7TF 'Lockhart' down the line. For the first 1 - 2 years these are to be premium machines though as they continue to sell PS4 and Xbox One models.
MS and Sony are basically both waiting for the other to reveal pricing so they can undercut the competition or convince their management to take a hit on the bottom line.

A comparable 9TF RDNA GPU (5700XT) from AMD would set you back $400 without Ray Tracing support.
The PS5 is using a newer RDNA 2.0 architecture which won't be available for PC GPU's until late 2020.
I can see Microsoft dropping the Series X at $749 at launch or even $799 at 12TF. Unless they managed to cut costs somewhere.

Unlike the previous gen we're getting a real generational leap on paper.

Bro, I don't know how retail works at Dutch stores, but a videogame console costing $800 is fucking suicide. The PS5 was rumored to cost $450 to manufacture, without distribution.

Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nintex on June 14, 2020, 01:43:37 PM
PS4 Pro is currently 399 Euro / $399

Microsoft dropped the Cyberpunk 2077 Xbox One X edition for 499 Euro / $399
(but it was an Xbox so one store ran a promotion for 299 Euro)

With the old generation consoles still at those prices and in high demand prior to the new generation I'm not expecting it to come in below $599 and that would honestly surprise me given the hardware that's packed into these machines.

There's also the trend of Sony 'premium pricing' all their TV's, devices and electronics.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: paprikastaude on June 14, 2020, 01:43:46 PM
Sure Switch is "300" bucks with that bi-yearly controller replacement :goldberg

Like it or not though, that 10 year old hardware has been the most popular and successful world wide  :doge

And Mahvel is the most successul movie brand. Still is trash for any enthusiast of the medium though. :idont Though Raist is the last one that should shit on Nintendyearolds, considering he's acting the exact same but for Sony.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 14, 2020, 01:47:26 PM
I just got a One X second hand for 200 so Im good for now.

Wont upgrad if its more then 399.

Like it or not though, that 10 year old hardware has been the most popular and successful world wide  :doge

If you dont count ps4?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Svejk on June 14, 2020, 02:08:35 PM
At $600 even... like the PS3 launch price... should at least have a better launch line up I would think... Right??  :-\

I mean... compare the prices of the PS3 launch (US) 
Quote
US$499.99 (20 GB model) US$599.99 (60 GB model)
$100 for dat extra phat 40GB  :lawd
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 14, 2020, 02:21:25 PM
At $600 even... like the PS3 launch price... should at least have a better launch line up I would think... Right??  :-\

I mean... compare the prices of the PS3 launch (US) 
Quote
US$499.99 (20 GB model) US$599.99 (60 GB model)
$100 for dat extra phat 40GB  :lawd

The 20 GB model didn't have wifi, too, lol.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 14, 2020, 03:04:06 PM
There is not a single chance either MS or Sony go for 700. Are you out of your goddamn mind :lol

Though Raist is the last one that should shit on Nintendyearolds, considering he's acting the exact same but for Sony.

:lol I got my PS4 in 2016.

The 20 GB model didn't have wifi, too, lol.

Couldn't even get it in Europe. Sony went "nope, you're only getting the more expensive one. Will go well with your 20% VAT  :drool "
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Don Rumata on June 14, 2020, 03:19:46 PM
They keep beating that "value" drum, but i don't get what this is offering that's so special?

1) Power increase like any other gen-ump and actually less than the competition.
2) Decent quality title line-up (allegedly) from their first party studios... just like PS4 and 3.. and even 2.
3) The.. ehm.. gamepad vibrates better?

I mean really, like Tasty said, it doesn't even have the "oh i'll get it as a cheap dvd/bluray player" argument, infact, they want you to get the driveless version.
I know it's all buzzwords, but are they relly this desperate for an angle to sell this thing, beyond "buy it 'cause it's playstation"?

EDIT: Oh yeah, i suppose they just expect to sell a few million copies to absolute nerds at launch, for a massive price spike, and think about big numbers later on.
They don't even have a Gamepass-like value, to help sweeten the deal.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 14, 2020, 03:22:24 PM
They've also used "value" when they talked about the PS4 price :yeshrug


You'll get your free on-disk copy of Astrobot and you'll LOVE IT.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Don Rumata on June 14, 2020, 03:25:26 PM
They've also used "value" when they talked about the PS4 price :yeshrug


You'll get your free on-disk copy of Astrobot and you'll LOVE IT.
In that case it made more sens tho, 399$ was relatively cheap for a new console, and 100$ less than the competition, at launch.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: mormapope on June 14, 2020, 03:25:55 PM
PS4 Pro is currently 399 Euro / $399

Microsoft dropped the Cyberpunk 2077 Xbox One X edition for 499 Euro / $399
(but it was an Xbox so one store ran a promotion for 299 Euro)

With the old generation consoles still at those prices and in high demand prior to the new generation I'm not expecting it to come in below $599 and that would honestly surprise me given the hardware that's packed into these machines.

There's also the trend of Sony 'premium pricing' all their TV's, devices and electronics.

The X/Pro are most likely going to be discontinued very soon, in favor of the S and Slim sticking around a lil bit longer. The X and Pro have been selling well due to Rona, but....why have those manufacturing costs, for consoles that are now three years old, in a generation that's seven years old?

I just got a One X second hand for 200 so Im good for now.

Wont upgrad if its more then 399.

Like it or not though, that 10 year old hardware has been the most popular and successful world wide  :doge

If you dont count ps4?

Switch is at 50 million sold in three years, we'll see how well it does when it's $300 for a Switch, vs. $500/$600+ for next gen consoles.  :doge

Sure Switch is "300" bucks with that bi-yearly controller replacement :goldberg

Like it or not though, that 10 year old hardware has been the most popular and successful world wide  :doge

And Mahvel is the most successul movie brand. Still is trash for any enthusiast of the medium though. :idont Though Raist is the last one that should shit on Nintendyearolds, considering he's acting the exact same but for Sony.

True regarding market appeal not equaling quality, but like I said to Lager, and to elaborate on your point, it'll be $300 versus $600 at launch.

Having an Xbone X and a massive backlog,along with cross gen being part of Microsoft's new first party stuff, a Switch for the next couple big years to fill a next gen void is definitely appealing.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Svejk on June 14, 2020, 03:30:59 PM
Need that BC info.  If it is indeed BC for the majority of games out of the box, that alone is worth the price of $600, imo.  Shoot, the PS4Pro model is still sitting at $400... Why not "future proof" (I use that word loosely) your backlog for at least a few years longer (with "next-gen benefits") for an extra $200?  I got well over 200 games on PS4 currently.. It's simply a no brainer for someone so invested into the pit of despair ecosystem. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: paprikastaude on June 14, 2020, 03:46:52 PM
Need that BC info.  If it is indeed BC for the majority of games out of the box, that alone is worth the price of $600, imo. 

Maybe if it was PS1-4. But right now they can't even confirm full PS4 with a clear language  :foodcourt
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Don Rumata on June 14, 2020, 04:17:03 PM
If it has full BC, maybe with even boostmode, how am i asked to rebuy GTAV, instead of just getting my PS4 disc in?  :doge
(I don't have GTAV on ps4, but i'm just saying).
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Svejk on June 14, 2020, 04:27:34 PM
If it has full BC, maybe with even boostmode, how am i asked to rebuy GTAV, instead of just getting my PS4 disc in?  :doge
(I don't have GTAV on ps4, but i'm just saying).
(https://i.imgur.com/3COH5jh.png)

But yeah, I totally get it (or don't per se).  That's one of my burning questions particularly for Cyberpunk 2077.  Will my PS4 version be boosted in any way?  But they up and say there'll be a free upgrade for the boner smegma X edition... what about PS4 to 5??  How much more will it be "enhanced" other than resolution?  That technical stuff is totally out of my league, but I still want answers.  :P
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 14, 2020, 04:33:12 PM
If it has full BC, maybe with even boostmode, how am i asked to rebuy GTAV, instead of just getting my PS4 disc in?  :doge
(I don't have GTAV on ps4, but i'm just saying).
(https://i.imgur.com/3COH5jh.png)

But yeah, I totally get it (or don't per se).  That's one of my burning questions particularly for Cyberpunk 2077.  Will my PS4 version be boosted in any way?  But they up and say there'll be a free upgrade for the boner smegma X edition... what about PS4 to 5??  How much more will it be "enhanced" other than resolution?  That technical stuff is totally out of my league, but I still want answers.  :P

I can’t see soyny doing their own version of smart delivery at this point, maybe a small fee for an upgrade like they did with nba 2k14 at the start of this gen, unless they get data that the new Xbox is trending hotter or some shit :yeshrug
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Don Rumata on June 14, 2020, 04:48:00 PM
Yeah, i also don't think they'll do smart delivery on PS4, but at the same time, i can't see CDP bragging about that stuff on Xbox, and then having you pay up on PS5.
Assuming it's still up to devs to eat that cost (which is also true on Xbox, they don't force anyone to abide by Smart Delivery), i assume CDP will just make the PS5 update free.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Svejk on June 14, 2020, 05:02:13 PM
Huh... never heard of Smart Delivery.  After looking that up, wonder how long MS will support that. 15 years down the road, buy a used copy of GTAV for XBX for $3.99 bargain bin, only to drop it into XX Box Pro Series Y Ver. 10 w/ disc drive only to upgrade to a Enhanced version that they'll still charge $30 for.  Thinking about it more, I guess they'll support it until physical media becomes irrelevant to them?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Don Rumata on June 14, 2020, 05:28:13 PM
Huh... never heard of Smart Delivery.  After looking that up, wonder how long MS will support that. 15 years down the road, buy a used copy of GTAV for XBX for $3.99 bargain bin, only to drop it into XX Box Pro Series Y Ver. 10 w/ disc drive only to upgrade to a Enhanced version that they'll still charge $30 for.  Thinking about it more, I guess they'll support it until physical media becomes irrelevant to them?
Smart Delivery is only "guaranteed" on first party titles, AFAIK.
3rd parties are free to implement it (like CDP) or not.

So it could still be that you need to pay up if you want GTAV's enchancements on XboxSeX.
But BC itself should still be there regardless, with perhaps some minor automatic enhancemens (?) like 4k upscaling and HDR.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 14, 2020, 05:28:44 PM
The minute MS isn't getting their ass destroyed in marketshare anymore, you can bet they'll scale it back.
Remember how much better PS+ used to be?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Don Rumata on June 14, 2020, 06:26:01 PM
The minute MS isn't getting their ass destroyed in marketshare anymore, you can bet they'll scale it back.
Remember how much better PS+ used to be?
Sure, but that may take a while.

I saw people on RE (and other gaming places) expecting MS to come at this hard this coming July event, but i'm here thinking: It takes a base minimum of 2/3 years to develop a modern AAA game, make that 4 or 5 for an open world, they just bought these studios, many of which were relatively small to begin with... how are we expecting them to pull out a line up that can contrast Sony's when they've been pouring in cash in their first party stuff since PS3's second half, at least? Especially with COVID having slowed down everything slated for 2021 and beyond.

Their current chance, is just the EGS strategy of "hey, just take these "free" games!".

But maybe the Forza Horizon team really has been working on a new Fable game that will blow people's minds, i have my doubts, especially if crossgen.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: mormapope on June 14, 2020, 06:45:08 PM
Can't wait till God of War is eventually on Game Pass in 2026 on the Xbox 10. Can't imagine spending hundreds of dollars to play that shit  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Svejk on June 14, 2020, 06:50:51 PM
Can't wait till God of War is eventually on Game Pass in 2026 on the Xbox 10. Can't imagine spending hundreds of dollars to play that shit  :lol
By that time, the monthly subscription will be like $40.  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 14, 2020, 06:51:39 PM
Huh... never heard of Smart Delivery.  After looking that up, wonder how long MS will support that. 15 years down the road, buy a used copy of GTAV for XBX for $3.99 bargain bin, only to drop it into XX Box Pro Series Y Ver. 10 w/ disc drive only to upgrade to a Enhanced version that they'll still charge $30 for.  Thinking about it more, I guess they'll support it until physical media becomes irrelevant to them?

Tbh I think smart delivery won’t amount to much more than what a Xbox one x or PS4 pro patch for current gen games was a few years ago. With Sony’s first party and the lite cult they have though they‘ll probably sell you ‘remasters’ from their PS4 library instead
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 14, 2020, 07:06:36 PM
https://twitter.com/SavedYouAClickV/status/1272299938181861376

:thinking 

Can't see it being that cheap at release, but if it is, it's gonna sell right out at launch.  But then...it's gonna sell right out at launch no matter how much it costs.

Need that BC info.  If it is indeed BC for the majority of games out of the box, that alone is worth the price of $600, imo.  Shoot, the PS4Pro model is still sitting at $400... Why not "future proof" (I use that word loosely) your backlog for at least a few years longer (with "next-gen benefits") for an extra $200?  I got well over 200 games on PS4 currently.. It's simply a no brainer for someone so invested into the pit of despair ecosystem.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/ps5-backwards-compatibility-ps4-compatible-playstation-6300#section-2
Quote
During the PS5 system specs deep dive in March 2020, Mike Cerny revealed that nearly all of the top 100 PS4 games (ranked by playtime) would be playable on the PS5 at launch.

This was later elaborated on in a post by Hideaki Nishino on the official PlayStation blog about the PS5 specs. There it was explained that Sony hopes that the majority of games released for the PS4 will be playable on the PS5.

It's important to note that only games from the top 100 games played by PS4 users will be backwards compatible by launch and, even then, the whole list might not be available. The list of backwards compatible games for the PS5 will steadily grow after the console's release, similar to, we imagine, how the list of 360 games playable on the Xbox One has grown since it's debut.

So not everything will work and it's possible it may never be the entire library, which sucks.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nintex on June 14, 2020, 07:38:43 PM
The minute MS isn't getting their ass destroyed in marketshare anymore, you can bet they'll scale it back.
Remember how much better PS+ used to be?
Sure, but that may take a while.

I saw people on RE (and other gaming places) expecting MS to come at this hard this coming July event, but i'm here thinking: It takes a base minimum of 2/3 years to develop a modern AAA game, make that 4 or 5 for an open world, they just bought these studios, many of which were relatively small to begin with... how are we expecting them to pull out a line up that can contrast Sony's when they've been pouring in cash in their first party stuff since PS3's second half, at least? Especially with COVID having slowed down everything slated for 2021 and beyond.

Their current chance, is just the EGS strategy of "hey, just take these "free" games!".

But maybe the Forza Horizon team really has been working on a new Fable game that will blow people's minds, i have my doubts, especially if crossgen.
They're probably going to try and score the nostalgia points.

The initiative doing Perfect Dark, Fable by PlayGround maybe a Banjo reboot by Double Fine?
Especially PD should be relatively easy to do.

So you'd be looking at:

(launch?)
- Hellblade 2
- HALO Infinite
- Forza Motorsport
- MS Flight Simulator
- Sea of Thieves Series X enhanced
(I expected a bunch of 'souped' up BC games)

(2021?)
- Age of Empires IV
- Everwild
- Fable
- Perfect Dark
- Forza Horizon
- Gears of War 6

Which would be a stronger line-up than they've had in a decade.
I think MS is in an ok position if they can release 4 - 6 'big' first party games a year next to the occasional Cupheads and Oni's.

Anyhow, another reason why I think these boys will be expensive is their size:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaUts6gWoAUCSKH?format=jpg)
Both PS5 and Xbox Series X are quite large compared to earlier consoles hinting at not only expensive hardware but also expensive cooling solutions.
They're basically just PC's now.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Don Rumata on June 14, 2020, 07:56:15 PM
No way they have Hellblade 2 for launch.
I don't even think it's a 2021 title.

The game just swiutched engine to UE5, which isn't even coming out till end of 2021, now ofc. thay have preferential treatment, but if they're still that early as to be able to switch around engine, there's no way they're out by the holidays.

Forza Motorsport and Halo Inf. are the only big titles i think are plausible for launch (and Forza is still a niche product).
And tbh, 343 still has to demonstrate the ability to do a decent Halo experience, not a sure fire hit at all.
By comparison Guerrilla, Naughty Dog, Insomniac, are much better established studios.

MS Flight Sim looks amazing, but it's also super niche.

Thing is, even in the nostalgia department, they don't all that much.

If they cultivate these studios well, i think we'll see the benefits by halfway through the gen.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: BisMarckie on June 14, 2020, 07:59:30 PM
After reading a lot of stuff about the PS5 load times and their new UI that loads in milliseconds. Am I the only weirdo who isn't bothered by load times and the current UI's response time all that much? Sure, it would be nice to have everything instantly, but it's not as big a deal to me, especially compared to people who say it's a game changer.  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nintex on June 14, 2020, 08:01:07 PM
No way they have Hellblade 2 for launch.
I don't even think it's a 2021 title.

The game just swiutched engine to UE5, which isn't even coming out till end of 2021, now ofc. thay have preferential treatment, but if they're still that early as to be able to switch around engine, there's no way they're out by the holidays.

Forza Motorsport and Halo Inf. are the only big titles i think are plausible for launch (and Forza is still a niche product).
And tbh, 343 still has to demonstrate the ability to do a decent Halo experience, not a sure fire hit at all.
By comparison Guerrilla, Naughty Dog, Insomniac, are much better established studios.

MS Flight Sim looks amazing, but it's also super niche.

Thing is, even in the nostalgia department, they don't all that much.

If they cultivate these studios well, i think we'll see the benefits by halfway through the gen.
Ah I missed the UE5 for Hellblade 2. That won't ship until 2021 then.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Don Rumata on June 14, 2020, 08:14:48 PM
After reading a lot of stuff about the PS5 load times and their new UI that loads in milliseconds. Am I the only weirdo who isn't bothered by load times and the current UI's response time all that much? Sure, it would be nice to have everything instantly, but it's not as big a deal to me, especially compared to people who say it's a game changer.  :doge
https://twitter.com/ThePrimaryGamer/status/1271656533957332993
:fbm
But her SSDs...
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: naff on June 14, 2020, 09:11:01 PM
After reading a lot of stuff about the PS5 load times and their new UI that loads in milliseconds. Am I the only weirdo who isn't bothered by load times and the current UI's response time all that much? Sure, it would be nice to have everything instantly, but it's not as big a deal to me, especially compared to people who say it's a game changer.  :doge

it's more that it will allow higher definition texture streaming, devs won't need to be as creative with load time workarounds and everything will just be more responsive. it's not a minor effect, if you've used a pc with an ssd vs. without you must surely get it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: naff on June 14, 2020, 09:13:01 PM
try replaying HL2, even with an SSD, and lmk afterward how much you think load times dont matter.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: mormapope on June 14, 2020, 09:24:39 PM
The most next gen thing possible would be something like Elder Scrolls with no load times, not short or instant load times, straight up you walk into every building and dungeon with no interruptions.

If that's achievable next gen, I'd be impressed beyond belief. It's not about doing an old process at lightning speed, it's about new processes made possible with the technology.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: naff on June 14, 2020, 09:31:05 PM
that's clearly achievable. whether devs will put in the effort to do that will be done on a game by game basis.

This thing isn't even pushing a brand-new physical media format :confused

 :thinking eh whatchu talking about?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: BisMarckie on June 14, 2020, 09:35:44 PM
it's not a minor effect, if you've used a pc with an ssd vs. without you must surely get it.

I have a SSD in my PC, have had one for like over 5 years. I still put games on my HDD because I just don't care that much :trumps
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: naff on June 14, 2020, 09:41:07 PM
like, if asset complexity (read: size on disk) is increased relative to the increase in ssd streaming speeds then they'll be in a similar/the same place they were last gen. it will continue to be a balancing act. ssd's aren't magic. goddamn console technology hyperbole is cringe
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: headwalk on June 14, 2020, 09:42:22 PM
i love the idea that every cost analysis metric tells them $599 is the magic price, but every time they run it upstairs they get met with "no, no we don't want to hear that number. come back with another one"
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: naff on June 14, 2020, 09:52:25 PM
it's not a minor effect, if you've used a pc with an ssd vs. without you must surely get it.

I have a SSD in my PC, have had one for like over 5 years. I still put games on my HDD because I just don't care that much :trumps

unless you're using high def texture packs or the game is specifically optimised for it most games will load pretty fast/at a similar speed off an ssd relative to an old platter drive after initial boot. having the tech included as a standard part of every sku between both manufacturers will significantly ease the io bottleneck on consoles though. idk how exactly devs will take advantage of it with "game changing" features, mostly it will be quality of life stuff like less/zero load times and higher quality textures  :trumps
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: naff on June 14, 2020, 09:58:50 PM
what i was getting at before with the HL2 quip (and it's the same with many old games) even with an ssd, the load times are copious and shite (but marginally better with an ssd vs without). the big gains come when hardware is standard as the target for everything. with m$ and sony standardising with nearly like for like hardware we (incl. pc only ppl) will be rewarded with lots of great games over the coming decade. thank fucking jebus console manufacturers have stopped being stupid fucks and everyone's just using the same hardware now (except nintendo of course, but switch is pretty sweet and the difference p justifiable)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Don Rumata on June 14, 2020, 11:08:20 PM
As long as PC ports of multiplatforms, have an SSD storage as a minimum requirement.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Ghoul on June 15, 2020, 01:07:25 AM
My mind literally melts when I think of a PC gamer not using an SSD. But I know there are probably some weirdos that probably only have HDD’s in. And if so, fuck em let them spend $100 on an SSD. I think The pricing on the PS5 is gonna be high because I’ve never seen a company hold onto a price for this long before when releasing a console. I will imagine that Xbox will release the price at the July event, so hopefully we’ll know how much the PS5 is by end of august. Which is absolutely crazy, considering it’ll be out three month-ish later. Will also be interesting to see who will release first. Most likely Sony again but who knows. Also if Halo is a launch title then it has to be finished within five months... Which considering they’re all working from home unless it’s just bug fixes etc I don’t see that happening, but we’ll see in July I guess...
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: benjipwns on June 15, 2020, 02:55:04 AM
Anyhow, another reason why I think these boys will be expensive is their size:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaUts6gWoAUCSKH?format=jpg)
Both PS5 and Xbox Series X are quite large compared to earlier consoles hinting at not only expensive hardware but also expensive cooling solutions.
We know what the Series X cooling solution is, Microsoft even let DF take the thing apart.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nintex on June 15, 2020, 07:46:31 AM
SSD's are only part of what causes consoles to load.
Disk I/O and of course filling up the memory with all those gorgeous 4K textures takes time as well.

Loading times will be shorter, like they are on PC. And honestly that's a nice improvement but they won't disappear altogether unless it's some small indie game that fits into the entire memory.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rufus on June 15, 2020, 08:08:01 AM
The PS5's SSD has a throughput of 5.5GB/s raw, 8 to 9GB/s with compression.
The XSX' SSD can do 2.4GB/s raw, 4.8GB/s with compression.

Both have 16GB of GDDR6, i.e. they can fill their RAM in 2-4 seconds.

If you see load screens or transition animations that are longer than this (or any streaming hitches whatsoever), someone fucked up.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 15, 2020, 08:10:35 AM
you could see the streaming hitches in the ratchet demo when it changed from world to world. but hey, showed that it was actually real.  :-[
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rufus on June 15, 2020, 08:11:47 AM
Yeah, that was unfortunate. I wonder what the bottleneck is.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 15, 2020, 09:08:54 AM
i cant get over how ugly this thing is

its just... ugly

its so fucking uglyyyyyyyy AAAAAAAH

The Colonel showing 'em how it's done. :pimp
https://twitter.com/kfcgaming/status/1271487675929890816
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Tasty on June 15, 2020, 10:34:26 AM
Anyhow, another reason why I think these boys will be expensive is their size:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaUts6gWoAUCSKH?format=jpg)
Both PS5 and Xbox Series X are quite large compared to earlier consoles hinting at not only expensive hardware but also expensive cooling solutions.
They're basically just PC's now.

You forgot one. :smug

(https://i.imgur.com/JdGFK4o.png)

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:lol Stadia
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Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Tasty on June 15, 2020, 10:38:59 AM
that's clearly achievable. whether devs will put in the effort to do that will be done on a game by game basis.

This thing isn't even pushing a brand-new physical media format :confused

 :thinking eh whatchu talking about?

Like the PS3 was. PS3 including one of the first Blu-ray (movie) drives IMO offered way more value at launch, even at $600, than the PS5 does. Cheap 4K Blu-ray players abound, and Blu-ray isn't a brand-new format anymore. The value proposition is way less.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Svejk on June 15, 2020, 11:32:13 AM
Apparently Astro's Playroom comes pre-installed on all PS5's.  :aweshum
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Svejk on June 15, 2020, 11:41:06 AM
The top 100 most played games according to this site....

https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/comments/acpu37/ourps4life_100_most_popular_ps4_games_ranked_by/

Man... Gamers suck.
 :dead
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 15, 2020, 11:43:42 AM
You mean casuals

Most if not all on that list is casual trash
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 15, 2020, 12:15:42 PM
I played all of those feefers and NBA’s :smug
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 15, 2020, 12:19:22 PM
that's clearly achievable. whether devs will put in the effort to do that will be done on a game by game basis.

This thing isn't even pushing a brand-new physical media format :confused

 :thinking eh whatchu talking about?

Like the PS3 was. PS3 including one of the first Blu-ray (movie) drives IMO offered way more value at launch, even at $600, than the PS5 does. Cheap 4K Blu-ray players abound, and Blu-ray isn't a brand-new format anymore. The value proposition is way less.

And the PS2 pushed dvd
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 15, 2020, 12:20:53 PM
The top 100 most played games according to this site....

https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/comments/acpu37/ourps4life_100_most_popular_ps4_games_ranked_by/

Man... Gamers suck.
 :dead

Wow whst a drop for Fifa 19 compared to 16/17/18

Ouch!

Edit: ok numbers are for mid november 2018 so just after fifa 2019 launch, im sure these numbers surge after xmas
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Svejk on June 15, 2020, 12:24:17 PM
I was expecting certain titles like Sekiro, Dark Souls 3, Yakuza 0 or even Def Stranding..  :doge
Just hope the PS5 BC isn't basically a FIFA/Dooty machine based off those stats. 

I just want to play a Soulsborne game I already paid for on a PS system that doesn't run like doodoo.   :noah
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 15, 2020, 12:33:29 PM
(https://www.euribor.com.es/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/EajAfzfXQAI3jrQ.jpg)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 15, 2020, 12:34:47 PM
I don't see a single gay furry high schooler interactive book.

Casual morans!

Yup cause thats what casuals play  :heh
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 15, 2020, 12:36:36 PM
I was expecting certain titles like Sekiro, Dark Souls 3, Yakuza 0 or even Def Stranding..  :doge
Just hope the PS5 BC is basically a FIFA/Dooty machine based off those stats. 

I just want to play a Soulsborne game I already paid for on a PS system that doesn't run like doodoo.   :noah

FIFA is what makes Sony nr 1 since the 90s

Champions League is sponsored by Playstation since 97

Every football fan knows where to play it
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nintex on June 15, 2020, 12:49:35 PM
(https://www.euribor.com.es/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/EajAfzfXQAI3jrQ.jpg)
sshh don't tell Microsoft  :shh :teehee ;)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 15, 2020, 12:58:47 PM
I don't see a single gay furry high schooler interactive book.

Casual morans!

Yup cause thats what casuals play  :heh

Not what I was saying; words R hard for you.

Having to decipher your meaning is quite hard indeed.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 15, 2020, 12:59:29 PM
 :whew
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 15, 2020, 01:34:55 PM
Apparently Astro's Playroom comes pre-installed on all PS5's.  :aweshum

Truly the U2's Songs of Innocence of video games.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 15, 2020, 01:51:56 PM
Now geometry wars  8)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 15, 2020, 01:52:43 PM
Anyhow, another reason why I think these boys will be expensive is their size:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaUts6gWoAUCSKH?format=jpg)

It's hilarious to see people spending so much time trying to decipher dimensions with the "super accurate" USB port and disk tray comparisons.

Those are way off. The Xbone is slightly larger than the PS3, for instance. But according to that pic it's significantly smaller.

Same thing with the early pics comparing the PS5 and XxXbOxXx Series XxX. According to those, the DS5 (Dualsense, whatevs) was gigantic compared to the Xbox controller :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nintex on June 15, 2020, 02:06:34 PM
It doesn't look like the S, but it doesn't look like the final Xbox One unit either.
In some renders it looks thinner than it actually was.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 15, 2020, 02:08:46 PM
Anyhow, another reason why I think these boys will be expensive is their size:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaUts6gWoAUCSKH?format=jpg)

It's hilarious to see people spending so much time trying to decipher dimensions with the "super accurate" USB port and disk tray comparisons.

Those are way off. The Xbone is slightly larger than the PS3, for instance. But according to that pic it's significantly smaller.

Same thing with the early pics comparing the PS5 and XxXbOxXx Series XxX. According to those, the DS5 (Dualsense, whatevs) was gigantic compared to the Xbox controller :lol

I think they are just using the Xbox One S instead of the OG.

Which still wouldn't make sense since the One S and One X have pretty much the exact same width, so in that pic they should be just as tall.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nintex on June 15, 2020, 02:17:31 PM
It's the original Xbox One, without the slanted bottom. Which makes it look more aesthetically pleasing than the thicc boi originally was :yeshrug

Still, PS5 and Xbox Series X don't differ much in terms of volume. One is tall and slim, the other blocky and thicc.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 15, 2020, 02:25:20 PM
I said One S and One X you muppet.


edit: and stop using distinguished mentally-challenged fellow units.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nintex on June 15, 2020, 02:26:31 PM
They used all sorts of visual trickery to make it look less thicc like displaying it at an angle.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/01/img13/video-games/xbox/microsoft_xbox_one_gtf_img1.jpg)

Or give it an all dark background so you couldn't see the bottom

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(https://gamein.nl/images/webshop_pics/big/32105_5.jpg)
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But then you got it
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(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4tPQc3jhmv4/maxresdefault.jpg)
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This is the bullshot render used for the comparison it seems.

(https://images.morele.net/d/14514691540657f750be4ac501f82497576e5b82666595999ddec1.jpeg)


Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 15, 2020, 02:28:23 PM
I remember the reveal, people were like "shit that looks big". Then websites etc got their units, and were like "so huh yeah... it's bigger than the Phat 3".

(https://i.imgur.com/Ob5yKSD.jpg)

Then teardowns were published and the thing was 50% empty space :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 15, 2020, 02:31:06 PM
They made it massive so it would cool better and they wouldn’t have another red ring fiasco on their hands iirc.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 15, 2020, 02:34:03 PM
I was expecting certain titles like Sekiro, Dark Souls 3, Yakuza 0 or even Def Stranding..  :doge

Hey...you got a PC- all of those are on there.  And run better than the PS4 versions.  :doge

This is your time to make the switch
:rejoice
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Tuckers Law on June 15, 2020, 02:53:49 PM
The most next gen thing possible would be something like Elder Scrolls with no load times, not short or instant load times, straight up you walk into every building and dungeon with no interruptions.

If that's achievable next gen, I'd be impressed beyond belief. It's not about doing an old process at lightning speed, it's about new processes made possible with the technology.

I’ve been wanting this for something like Zelda for ages.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nintex on June 15, 2020, 02:54:19 PM
I was expecting certain titles like Sekiro, Dark Souls 3, Yakuza 0 or even Def Stranding..  :doge

Hey...you got a PC- all of those are on there.  And run better than the PS4 versions.  :doge

This is your time to make the switch
:rejoice

Time to join the kings
(https://i.imgur.com/IZVquF1.gif) (https://i.imgur.com/Hnzmqp5.gif)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 15, 2020, 02:54:48 PM
I was expecting certain titles like Sekiro, Dark Souls 3, Yakuza 0 or even Def Stranding..  :doge

Hey...you got a PC- all of those are on there.  And run better than the PS4 versions.  :doge

This is your time to make the switch
:rejoice

For real
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nintex on June 15, 2020, 02:55:53 PM
Even Microsoft and Sony just gave up and built PC's  :idont
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 15, 2020, 03:01:52 PM
This still cracks me up :lol

(https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/N3lBLdcNKWJYmhLB.medium)


You can almost hear the iFixit guy going "... what?"


The 360 was a thing of beauty too. It's like it was slapped together with whatever they could find in a random warehouse.

(https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/yGyDbybL2EXvsbjH.medium)
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 15, 2020, 03:15:22 PM
Now wonder the towel trick worked
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nintex on June 15, 2020, 03:21:13 PM
Not every console can be perfectly designed

(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/55bf0bb7e4b0f749c8ab50e2/1439454694488-ACO73UKMZI81S6O42FNK/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kMt2GGKhEogkW6MvsIR3kl9Zw-zPPgdn4jUwVcJE1ZvWQUxwkmyExglNqGp0IvTJZUJFbgE-7XRK3dMEBRBhUpzODh1q7f_AgyoYOO_QiLgj7s8uvdaHqlko1h36f6FXuVIo7btDbijhgVUxTHzFRgQ/gamecube_motherboard.jpg)

And all you could hear was the prrrr of the disk drive  :heart

 :delicious
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Svejk on June 15, 2020, 03:50:17 PM
I was expecting certain titles like Sekiro, Dark Souls 3, Yakuza 0 or even Def Stranding..  :doge

Hey...you got a PC- all of those are on there.  And run better than the PS4 versions.  :doge

This is your time to make the switch
:rejoice
Spend over $1000 to reach "next-gen" levels only to buy those games all over again.   :fbm  With children invested in my PS library now, I might be in a hole I can't dig myself out of...
My work PC has a decent card, but it's still putting along with an i3.  :-\  Upgrading that alone will be at least $200ish..


Unless I win some sort of lotto.  :money
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 15, 2020, 05:36:41 PM
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1272611309641760769
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Don Rumata on June 15, 2020, 06:32:16 PM
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1272611309641760769
I gotta make a financial plan if i want to order take out, instead of eating frozen broccoli.
To get a PS5, i'll have to organize meetings with the bank.  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Let's Cyber on June 15, 2020, 06:43:24 PM
God fucking damn that's a rough lookin' 36
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: paprikastaude on June 15, 2020, 06:46:55 PM
Apparently Astro's Playroom comes pre-installed on all PS5's.  :aweshum

3D platformer comeback finally reality next gen :lawd
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 15, 2020, 07:16:37 PM
God fucking damn that's a rough lookin' 36

At least tell me I'm brave for posting this picture of myself. :(
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Tasty on June 15, 2020, 07:25:26 PM
God fucking damn that's a rough lookin' 36

Most Sony fans :(
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: headwalk on June 15, 2020, 07:39:36 PM
what % of load times is shuffling raw data from the HDD into the RAM? surely there's a bunch more processes needed to be done if you're loading an entirely new environment that are going to ruin the "no load times ever" dream?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: naff on June 15, 2020, 07:41:48 PM
that's clearly achievable. whether devs will put in the effort to do that will be done on a game by game basis.

This thing isn't even pushing a brand-new physical media format :confused

 :thinking eh whatchu talking about?

Like the PS3 was. PS3 including one of the first Blu-ray (movie) drives IMO offered way more value at launch, even at $600, than the PS5 does. Cheap 4K Blu-ray players abound, and Blu-ray isn't a brand-new format anymore. The value proposition is way less.

this is a terrible comparison. it would be suicide to try push a new physical media format in this climate, especially silly when you consider that sony have already got what they wanted with 4k blu-ray being the dominant (if under performing) format, and everyone's moving away from physical media. the value is in providing processing power on par with a pc twice the price.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: naff on June 15, 2020, 07:45:58 PM
that's if you put the components together yourself too. a pre-built pc with equivalent specs would run you ~2k+. something like $600 just for the gpu

the radeon 5700 xt is prob the best comparison on the market at the moment, and is a gen behind what will be in the series x/ps5
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: team filler on June 15, 2020, 08:59:35 PM
Not every console can be perfectly designed

(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/55bf0bb7e4b0f749c8ab50e2/1439454694488-ACO73UKMZI81S6O42FNK/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kMt2GGKhEogkW6MvsIR3kl9Zw-zPPgdn4jUwVcJE1ZvWQUxwkmyExglNqGp0IvTJZUJFbgE-7XRK3dMEBRBhUpzODh1q7f_AgyoYOO_QiLgj7s8uvdaHqlko1h36f6FXuVIo7btDbijhgVUxTHzFRgQ/gamecube_motherboard.jpg)

And all you could hear was the prrrr of the disk drive  :heart

 :delicious
:tocry
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rufus on June 16, 2020, 07:45:12 AM
what % of load times is shuffling raw data from the HDD into the RAM? surely there's a bunch more processes needed to be done if you're loading an entirely new environment that are going to ruin the "no load times ever" dream?
Yeah, some things will have to be resident at all times, too, like certain audio effects, but I'm trying to be optimistic.

They will invariably reach beyond the technology's grasp, but I hope at least some trickery disappears forever before then and isn't brought back because someone wants to load a particularly complex scene or whatever. Like slow walk-and-talks, obscured vistas, squeezing through tight gaps, one-way drops, etc. Reach a new plateau before the one-upping starts.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: thisismyusername on June 16, 2020, 09:35:41 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/Hnzmqp5.gif)

*right-click->save*
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Svejk on June 16, 2020, 10:10:01 AM
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1272611309641760769
I gotta make a financial plan if i want to order take out, instead of eating frozen broccoli.
To get a PS5, i'll have to organize meetings with the bank.  :doge
Looking that rough at 36, he better start planning his funeral arrangements...   :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 16, 2020, 10:54:25 AM
I was expecting certain titles like Sekiro, Dark Souls 3, Yakuza 0 or even Def Stranding..  :doge

Hey...you got a PC- all of those are on there.  And run better than the PS4 versions.  :doge

This is your time to make the switch
:rejoice
Spend over $1000 to reach "next-gen" levels only to buy those games all over again.   :fbm  With children invested in my PS library now, I might be in a hole I can't dig myself out of...
My work PC has a decent card, but it's still putting along with an i3.  :-\  Upgrading that alone will be at least $200ish..


Unless I win some sort of lotto.  :money

They're cheaper on PC.   :P   In all seriousness, it would benefit you a lot more because of the discounted prices alone.  PC game prices are often discounted right at release or go on sale much faster.  I dunno; I mean, nothing is stopping you from keeping your PS4 and then getting new games on PC if you wanted to try that route.  I definitely prefer to get digital games on there over consoles since I don't have to be anywhere near as concerned on whether or not the older games will work or be supported on new hardware, too.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: kingv on June 16, 2020, 02:11:05 PM
I may upgrade my pc Once the new cards come out. My kid is obsessed with roblox and prefers it on PC, so I have a good excuse.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nintex on June 16, 2020, 02:17:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkZBuL_a13E

Interesting to see how the PS5/Xbox Series X stack up against the PC.
In general it's equivalent to an R5 3600, 16GB RAM and RTX 2070 (PS5) or RTX 2070S / 2080 (Xbox Series X) with the big unknown being the impact of the high SSD bandwith.

However, at the end DLSS2.0 comes into play again, showing an RTX2060 outperforming the Xbox Series X in Ray-Traced Minecraft.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Svejk on June 16, 2020, 03:18:42 PM
I was expecting certain titles like Sekiro, Dark Souls 3, Yakuza 0 or even Def Stranding..  :doge

Hey...you got a PC- all of those are on there.  And run better than the PS4 versions.  :doge

This is your time to make the switch
:rejoice
Spend over $1000 to reach "next-gen" levels only to buy those games all over again.   :fbm  With children invested in my PS library now, I might be in a hole I can't dig myself out of...
My work PC has a decent card, but it's still putting along with an i3.  :-\  Upgrading that alone will be at least $200ish..


Unless I win some sort of lotto.  :money

They're cheaper on PC.   :P   In all seriousness, it would benefit you a lot more because of the discounted prices alone.  PC game prices are often discounted right at release or go on sale much faster.  I dunno; I mean, nothing is stopping you from keeping your PS4 and then getting new games on PC if you wanted to try that route.  I definitely prefer to get digital games on there over consoles since I don't have to be anywhere near as concerned on whether or not the older games will work or be supported on new hardware, too.
I mean, I get what you're saying... and I agree for the most part (even though we've literally had this conversation countless times for years and years  :lol)...  There would need to be some serious QOL adjustments made to how I game; PC location (my work location basically),and/or running cables to my big TV in the living room... I absolutely can not game at a desk on a monitor.  I do too much work at one on a daily basis... I need to lounge when I game.. no question.  But I can't move my work PC over there...     unless I'm going for a complete new build to invest in...  I can't justify that purchase at a one time price (or even monthly payments), all the while, still needing a 4K display... On the Sony route though, I'm willing to take my chance that they won't back out of some form of BC moving forward.. Any PS1-3 game I would consider playing again anyway, I can find the game for free on the information super hwy and play on an emu with better settings than a standard BC would allow, so... I dunno.  I don't want to sound like a fanboy, or be packed full of excuses (which I technically am), but there's a lot of gray area that stands out to me still.

TL;DR - I have a lot to consider if going that route...
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: paprikastaude on June 16, 2020, 03:26:31 PM
tbf Steam sales are way overrated at this point compared to PSN/XBL and even physical discounts. Mabye it gets to the bottom a little quicker, but if I'm not day1-ing, then I don't care if it takes 1 year or 1 year and a half. There's more opportunity to get free shit on PC, but then again, I don't think I really ever touched any of the stuff that gets thrown at me.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: BisMarckie on June 16, 2020, 03:32:30 PM
tbf Steam sales are way overrated at this point compared to PSN/XBL and even physical discounts. Mabye it gets to the bottom a little quicker, but if I'm not day1-ing, then I don't care if it takes 1 year or 1 year and a half. There's more opportunity to get free shit on PC, but then again, I don't think I really ever touched any of the stuff that gets thrown at me.

Yeah, there has been stuff on my wishlist for years because the price never got to the point I was willing to pay.
People who champion steam sales forget that it's the publisher who determines the price not the marketplace and they don't care whether they sell a copy on PSN or steam. The only thing steam has going for it is to get some decent games in a bundle, but that's a year+ after release most of the time.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: mormapope on June 16, 2020, 03:37:03 PM
tbf Steam sales are way overrated at this point compared to PSN/XBL and even physical discounts. There's more opportunity to get free shit on PC, but then again, I don't think I really ever touched any of that shit that was thrown at me.

Agree completely, we're talking a few dollar difference typically with big releases. Indie games are 75%+ all the time.

PC as a platform used to be more alluring due to more niche or hardcore games not possible on consoles, due to hardware limitations or lacking the experience to tailor something for a controller.

Since anything comes out on everything, the main benefit of PC is tinkering with visual and performance settings to tailor to whatever machine you built or bought.

Which, for me and presumably for some here and lots of people elsewhere, don't really care about that aspect of gaming. I don't care about modding, looking up new hardware, installing the new hardware.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Svejk on June 16, 2020, 03:49:47 PM
The big thing that lures me into PC the most, is mods..  Modding Skyrim was a life changing experience.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: thisismyusername on June 16, 2020, 05:29:54 PM
I was expecting certain titles like Sekiro, Dark Souls 3, Yakuza 0 or even Def Stranding..  :doge

Hey...you got a PC- all of those are on there.  And run better than the PS4 versions.  :doge

This is your time to make the switch
:rejoice
Spend over $1000 to reach "next-gen" levels only to buy those games all over again.   :fbm  With children invested in my PS library now, I might be in a hole I can't dig myself out of...
My work PC has a decent card, but it's still putting along with an i3.  :-\  Upgrading that alone will be at least $200ish..


Unless I win some sort of lotto.  :money

They're cheaper on PC.   :P   In all seriousness, it would benefit you a lot more because of the discounted prices alone.  PC game prices are often discounted right at release or go on sale much faster.  I dunno; I mean, nothing is stopping you from keeping your PS4 and then getting new games on PC if you wanted to try that route.  I definitely prefer to get digital games on there over consoles since I don't have to be anywhere near as concerned on whether or not the older games will work or be supported on new hardware, too.
I mean, I get what you're saying... and I agree for the most part (even though we've literally had this conversation countless times for years and years  :lol)...  There would need to be some serious QOL adjustments made to how I game; PC location (my work location basically),and/or running cables to my big TV in the living room... I absolutely can not game at a desk on a monitor.  I do too much work at one on a daily basis... I need to lounge when I game.. no question.  But I can't move my work PC over there...     unless I'm going for a complete new build to invest in...  I can't justify that purchase at a one time price (or even monthly payments), all the while, still needing a 4K display... On the Sony route though, I'm willing to take my chance that they won't back out of some form of BC moving forward.. Any PS1-3 game I would consider playing again anyway, I can find the game for free on the information super hwy and play on an emu with better settings than a standard BC would allow, so... I dunno.  I don't want to sound like a fanboy, or be packed full of excuses (which I technically am), but there's a lot of gray area that stands out to me still.

TL;DR - I have a lot to consider if going that route...

Boy do I have the application for you (https://store.steampowered.com/steamlink/about/)

Also unless you're an insane person that wants to blow money out your asshole daily to the tech lords like Bork: You don't need a 4K monitor. FFS, a 1080p monitor will do you fine for work and gaming for a good long while.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: BisMarckie on June 16, 2020, 05:32:18 PM
Steamlink works fine for me, but the lag and the amount of artifacting can vary wildly based on your setup and a dash of randomness.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Svejk on June 16, 2020, 06:15:12 PM
Boy do I have the application for you (https://store.steampowered.com/steamlink/about/)

Also unless you're an insane person that wants to blow money out your asshole daily to the tech lords like Bork: You don't need a 4K monitor. FFS, a 1080p monitor will do you fine for work and gaming for a good long while.
If only the Steamlink app was available on PS4.  :heh  I have a 'dumb' TV still, so I would need another device to hook up to it.  The Steamlink hardware is being scalped too high a price now, imo.  Does a roku or some cheap thing like that have it?
Steamlink works fine for me, but the lag and the amount of artifacting can vary wildly based on your setup and a dash of randomness.
Yeah,.. if that didn't bother me, I'd just go with Stadia, lolamiright?
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: naff on June 16, 2020, 06:33:16 PM
u can get steamlink on any android or apple tv afaik
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: naff on June 16, 2020, 06:36:52 PM
i've tried both steamlink and nvidia lamestream. having all connections hardwired through a very good, low latency router i still found the motion and response times very janky, and borderline unplayable for anything except casual experiences/turn based rpg fare

Yeah,.. if that didn't bother me, I'd just go with Stadia, lolamiright?

it's still hilarious to me people thought stadia might actually be good
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 16, 2020, 06:36:55 PM
Yea but he doesnt have an android or appletv
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: naff on June 16, 2020, 06:39:39 PM
he asked if a Roku or something equivalently cheap has it
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: naff on June 16, 2020, 06:50:26 PM
i actually really enjoyed astro bot rescue mission and lf to playroom  :-[ i dont think just because it was in VR (though that's a big part of it). i thought the style was generic at first, but it felt really creative and was fun as hell to play once i got my hands on it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 17, 2020, 09:46:45 AM
They're cheaper on PC.   :P   In all seriousness, it would benefit you a lot more because of the discounted prices alone.  PC game prices are often discounted right at release or go on sale much faster.  I dunno; I mean, nothing is stopping you from keeping your PS4 and then getting new games on PC if you wanted to try that route.  I definitely prefer to get digital games on there over consoles since I don't have to be anywhere near as concerned on whether or not the older games will work or be supported on new hardware, too.
I mean, I get what you're saying... and I agree for the most part (even though we've literally had this conversation countless times for years and years  :lol)...  There would need to be some serious QOL adjustments made to how I game; PC location (my work location basically),and/or running cables to my big TV in the living room... I absolutely can not game at a desk on a monitor.  I do too much work at one on a daily basis... I need to lounge when I game.. no question.  But I can't move my work PC over there...     unless I'm going for a complete new build to invest in...  I can't justify that purchase at a one time price (or even monthly payments), all the while, still needing a 4K display... On the Sony route though, I'm willing to take my chance that they won't back out of some form of BC moving forward.. Any PS1-3 game I would consider playing again anyway, I can find the game for free on the information super hwy and play on an emu with better settings than a standard BC would allow, so... I dunno.  I don't want to sound like a fanboy, or be packed full of excuses (which I technically am), but there's a lot of gray area that stands out to me still.

TL;DR - I have a lot to consider if going that route...

I know we've talked about this so many times before, yeah, lol.  :lol  I just think with you being 100% digital and liking to go back and play older stuff from 1-2 generations ago, PC makes more sense.  You could consolidate everything you use into just one machine for games, emulation, streaming, etc.  It would be a big change, but you'd be free of being "locked" into the Sony ecosystem and although the hardware you get might cost more depending on what you go with (if you got another PC), it would end up saving you money in the long run due to lower game prices, free games (like actual FREE games from Epic and the like with no sub required), and no subscriptions needed to play games online or get 'Plus' crap.

tbf Steam sales are way overrated at this point compared to PSN/XBL and even physical discounts. Mabye it gets to the bottom a little quicker, but if I'm not day1-ing, then I don't care if it takes 1 year or 1 year and a half. There's more opportunity to get free shit on PC, but then again, I don't think I really ever touched any of the stuff that gets thrown at me.

The difference is that you're not just locked into Steam for games and can also buy Steam or other storefront codes from other sellers.  Green Man Gaming might have a good deal on something that Steam doesn't have on sale, for instance.

Also unless you're an insane person that wants to blow money out your asshole daily to the tech lords like Bork: You don't need a 4K monitor. FFS, a 1080p monitor will do you fine for work and gaming for a good long while.

My monitor is 2560x1080, bruh.  :doge  He's talking about using a TV anyway and you can get a decent 4K set cheap enough.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Svejk on June 17, 2020, 10:13:23 AM
I just think with you being 100% digital and liking to go back and play older stuff from 1-2 generations ago, PC makes more sense.
This is mostly only the case when I can have it on my phone basically.. which usually narrows down to either RPG's or point and click style games..
I suppose you saw in the random thread that I tried Sekiro on my work PC and it runs like buttered tits.. I'm starting to consider demo'ing more games on it...  It could be a start to gaining a better PC library.  It'll be a long road for transition.  Definitely not an overnight thing.

Back to PS5 concerns, another thing I'd need to know is if Plex would be available for it immediately... Plex is my primary streaming source/app.  I know that can be remedied easily with a chromecast, roku, whatever,  but it would be awfully convenient if it were available for PS5. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 17, 2020, 10:29:51 AM
I just think with you being 100% digital and liking to go back and play older stuff from 1-2 generations ago, PC makes more sense.
This is mostly only the case when I can have it on my phone basically.. which usually narrows down to either RPG's or point and click style games..
I suppose you saw in the random thread that I tried Sekiro on my work PC and it runs like greased tits.. I'm starting to consider demo'ing more games on it...  It could be a start to gaining a better PC library.  It'll be a long road for transition.  Definitely not an overnight thing.

Download the Epic Games Store and start grabbing their free games every week.  :)

Back to PS5 concerns, another thing I'd need to know is if Plex would be available for it immediately... Plex is my primary streaming source/app.  I know that can be remedied easily with a chromecast, roku, whatever,  but it would be awfully convenient if it were available for PS5.

If you think you're gonna get a new TV soon, I'd wait on this, but if not...a Roku is less than $30 and will do all of this stuff.  My experiences with streaming games in general has always been kind of shitty (although trying PS4 to my phone recently worked pretty well), so can't comment on how well Steamlink works.  I have one and never hooked it up (got it for $1!).  Maybe one of these days.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Svejk on June 17, 2020, 11:08:21 AM
I just think with you being 100% digital and liking to go back and play older stuff from 1-2 generations ago, PC makes more sense.
This is mostly only the case when I can have it on my phone basically.. which usually narrows down to either RPG's or point and click style games..
I suppose you saw in the random thread that I tried Sekiro on my work PC and it runs like greased tits.. I'm starting to consider demo'ing more games on it...  It could be a start to gaining a better PC library.  It'll be a long road for transition.  Definitely not an overnight thing.

Download the Epic Games Store and start grabbing their free games every week.  :)
Yes... I should be doing this.  :-[
If you think you're gonna get a new TV soon, I'd wait on this, but if not...a Roku is less than $30 and will do all of this stuff.  My experiences with streaming games in general has always been kind of shitty (although trying PS4 to my phone recently worked pretty well), so can't comment on how well Steamlink works.  I have one and never hooked it up (got it for $1!).  Maybe one of these days.
Yeah... I'd like a new tv... mines been great for the past 9 years, but I'd like a smart tv, bigger screen, and better speakers, 4K...
Trying out on my phone, the Steamlink app worked much smoother than the PS Remote Play app... I don't have the fanciest router though.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Don Rumata on June 17, 2020, 12:38:15 PM
That DF video was pretty good. I suspected some RT in those trailers, but with everything moving so fast, I wasn't sure.
TBH i'm not as ecstatic as they are for RT reflections.
I played Control and i would sometimes activate RT (tanking the framerate to single digits) just to see how various areas looked like, and the difference was, usually, underwhelmingly similar.
Seeing some reflections on glass is pretty cool, but not 20fps cool.
Hopefully on console, it doesn't eat too much performance.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 17, 2020, 12:58:48 PM
I want to see it in a game like Thief where you use the shadows to your advantage.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 17, 2020, 01:22:07 PM
My 6 year old 47" 1080 Sony has sub 20ms, not going to replace it until it breaks.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 17, 2020, 01:34:57 PM
I just think with you being 100% digital and liking to go back and play older stuff from 1-2 generations ago, PC makes more sense.
This is mostly only the case when I can have it on my phone basically.. which usually narrows down to either RPG's or point and click style games..
I suppose you saw in the random thread that I tried Sekiro on my work PC and it runs like greased tits.. I'm starting to consider demo'ing more games on it...  It could be a start to gaining a better PC library.  It'll be a long road for transition.  Definitely not an overnight thing.

Download the Epic Games Store and start grabbing their free games every week.  :)


 :-X :-X :-X :-X

Fuck that. Id rather buy some games for Sevjk
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Don Rumata on June 17, 2020, 02:22:11 PM
That DF video was pretty good. I suspected some RT in those trailers, but with everything moving so fast, I wasn't sure.
TBH i'm not as ecstatic as they are for RT reflections.
I played Control and i would sometimes activate RT (tanking the framerate to single digits) just to see how various areas looked like, and the difference was, usually, underwhelmingly similar.
Seeing some reflections on glass is pretty cool, but not 20fps cool.
Hopefully on console, it doesn't eat too much performance.

Reflections are one thing, but the lighting system is where the true potential lies. Though UE5's lighting system is insane without RT.
we've seen some pretty impressive GI solutions without RT (including UE5's, as you mention).
the accurate shadows in Shadow of the Tomb Raider with RTX were great but again, framerate killer.

Ray Tracing is great, but at the hw level consoles are at, and with the demand for 4k on top of that, i dont expect that much aside from very limited use.
im not sure it'll be all that obvious when actually playing.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 17, 2020, 03:34:33 PM
I just think with you being 100% digital and liking to go back and play older stuff from 1-2 generations ago, PC makes more sense.
This is mostly only the case when I can have it on my phone basically.. which usually narrows down to either RPG's or point and click style games..
I suppose you saw in the random thread that I tried Sekiro on my work PC and it runs like greased tits.. I'm starting to consider demo'ing more games on it...  It could be a start to gaining a better PC library.  It'll be a long road for transition.  Definitely not an overnight thing.

Download the Epic Games Store and start grabbing their free games every week.  :)


 :-X :-X :-X :-X

Fuck that. Id rather buy some games for Sevjk

I held off on the EGS for the longest time.  Only recently started getting games on it- it's totally fine and I'm not about to miss out on actual free games.  Like, Samurai Shodown NeoGeo Collection being given away a week before the Steam release for $40?  FUCK YEAH.  Steam is my preferred choice for games, but I will buy stuff I want from EGS now too. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 17, 2020, 03:40:24 PM
Yeah... I'd like a new tv... mines been great for the past 9 years, but I'd like a smart tv, bigger screen, and better speakers, 4K...

I dunno if "better speakers" and "HDTV" go together.   :P  Would recommend a soundbar.  Even 2.1 is still going to sound 100 times better than what the TV can put out!
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 17, 2020, 04:00:41 PM
Im all for buying games you want but Im not down for Epic wanting to make the PC platform a closed platform like consoles by snatching up exclusives and having the only way to play them is by going through their store.

Nah, Id rather not play games im interested in in that case. Because I feel like those games are being held hostage on that store until you give in and actually start using it. But nah, im good.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bork on June 17, 2020, 04:10:58 PM
ok

:idont
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Positive Touch on June 17, 2020, 04:15:09 PM
"here have some cool free games"

"no thanks i'd rather make shitty careposts on the internet that no one reads"
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Svejk on June 17, 2020, 04:23:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIyz_7Hz3U4

The loading speeds sound too good to be true.   :ohhh
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 17, 2020, 05:13:19 PM
I just hope Horizon 2 isn’t some big Ubisoft like open world game. What I liked about the 1st one was kind of how small it was. How each side thing was 1 of like 100 and were somewhat unique.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 17, 2020, 05:40:19 PM
"here have some cool free games"

"no thanks i'd rather make shitty careposts on the internet that no one reads"

Hey im fine with other ppl using it but w/e.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nintex on June 17, 2020, 05:47:31 PM
Watched the Ray Tracing vid of digital foundry.

Some impressive implementation, the Capgods of course doing it the best.
Bodes well for the future support of Ray tracing.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 17, 2020, 06:24:06 PM
I love big Ubisoft like open world games.
Well... they are still making those. Not everything has to be in that mold though.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 17, 2020, 06:29:18 PM
Watched the Ray Tracing vid of digital foundry.

Some impressive implementation, the Capgods of course doing it the best.
Bodes well for the future support of Ray tracing.

If these game companies had any respect, they’d change the name to Richard Tracing :tocry
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 17, 2020, 06:38:41 PM
HZD didnt feel like a typical Ubisoft game to me at all

Way too much personality and heart in it for that
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: remy on June 17, 2020, 11:11:37 PM
HZD didnt feel like a typical Ubisoft game to me at all

Way too much personality and heart in it for that
Couldn't see the heart through the waves of guys I had to mow down before the open world part.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 17, 2020, 11:26:25 PM
Don’t even remember what you are talking about.

But yeah, the human combat was weak.

Still one of the best games of the gen for me.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Svejk on June 17, 2020, 11:32:57 PM
The humans in that game were so dull and lifeless to me... The robo-animals and fighting/hunting them were the true stars of that game.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: remy on June 17, 2020, 11:36:30 PM
Don’t even remember what you are talking about.

But yeah, the human combat was weak.

Still one of the best games of the gen for me.
It's like in the first hour of the game, lol but it was enough to turn me off the rest of it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 17, 2020, 11:53:57 PM
Yeah I can certainly agree that human combat in the game was honestly pretty shitty. The robot battles though were amazing and honestly got me pretty involved.

But as I've said before I'm not actually into open world games. I like GTA, but also mostly just follow the main missions. I just like the open world and appreciate the atmosphere it brings and the scale and rendering of the world the programers and artists created. So yeah I've enjoyed stuff like Mafia 2.

So Ubisoft stuff kind of just turns me off when I open that map and see all that stuff. So what I liked about Horizon was that it was super story focused, the world felt big enough to me and well realized. I actually like it when open world games section off stuff and gradually open more to you through the narrative, it often feels like a journey. When you leave the outskirts of your village and get to that big wall right before the desert, it feels very epic to me.

But I also like how it kept the side stuff to like 5-6 instances and most of them were unique and had a purpose. 5 of those factory dunegons that are in the end the same, but have diffrent visuals and feel unique. Yes 6 longnecks which are basically towers, but each one is in a unique area requiring a slightly diffrent approach and the spectacle is cool. Even the base raid sub missions with the lame combat had a story that strung them together. And doing a lot of this extra stuff does really give you a noticeable edge over your enemies and not simply through character leveling up.

Oh and I really enjoyed the story.

For me the game did what I usually think is open world busy work very well.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: paprikastaude on June 18, 2020, 12:06:44 AM
I would've been in for the robot fights, but I can't with western devs that can't help themselves and turn robot dinosaurs into some pretentious story with RPG mechanics. Concept should've been done by someone like Platinum.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Don Rumata on June 18, 2020, 12:16:51 AM
I would've been in for the robot fights, but I can't with western devs that can't help themselves and turn robot dinosaurs into some pretentious story with RPG mechanics. Concept should've been done by someone like Platinum.
So they could've copy/pasted Bayonetta's combat for the 11th time?  :smug

No but shittalking aside, Nier Automata is the very definition of pointless open world bloat, tacked on a fun action game.
I say this while not liking Horizon's approach to open world.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: bluemax on June 18, 2020, 02:47:06 AM
I would've been in for the robot fights, but I can't with western devs that can't help themselves and turn robot dinosaurs into some pretentious story with RPG mechanics. Concept should've been done by someone like Platinum.
So they could've copy/pasted Bayonetta's combat for the 11th time?  :smug

No but shittalking aside, Nier Automata is the very definition of pointless open world bloat, tacked on a fun action game.
I say this while not liking Horizon's approach to open world.

Yeah but its Yoko Taro so you have to wonder if the open world bloat is an intentional commentary on the genre ;-)

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It probably wasn't.
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I actually was avoiding fighting the random dinosaurs as much as possible when I played HZD. Playing on hard made every fight an epic struggle, which would've been cool if it wasn't an open world game where I don't want to deal with an epic struggle every 5 feet.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: MMaRsu on June 18, 2020, 12:12:39 PM
Hzd has a pretty great story. For a videogame its better than 90% of other games stories
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nintex on June 18, 2020, 02:21:12 PM
nier Automata needs the bloat because your mind can't take too much Yoko Taro at once.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Don Rumata on June 18, 2020, 03:23:49 PM
nier Automata needs the bloat because your mind can't take too much Yoko Taro at once.
People make it out to be be weirder than it is.  :trumps
It's just a bit of meta-decostruction-fuckery, not unlike Kojima's, mixed with some anime style existential philosophy.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: paprikastaude on June 18, 2020, 04:04:51 PM
Nier 1 was smarter for sure.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Raist on June 19, 2020, 03:59:25 PM
(https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/ID-LzaaMQEOX5OF3SC2B9A_r1HX8FJpNlXUZ23a0Xoc/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/695603278989230152/723617014190571561/image0.png)


The shortest guy in that pic is 6'5 btw.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Tuckers Law on June 19, 2020, 04:02:41 PM
That face the guy in the middle is making  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Svejk on June 19, 2020, 04:20:41 PM
I smell many memes being generated from that pic.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: paprikastaude on June 19, 2020, 04:40:46 PM
PS5 Pro bigger than an average Asian.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Don Rumata on June 19, 2020, 05:43:06 PM
I smell many memes being generated from that pic.
Looks like that "this is how white people smile at you on the street" meme.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Coax on July 12, 2020, 02:49:23 AM
I want both the XXX and the PS5 to be silly money purely for the meltdown potential  8)

And pushing people to PC. Way spend $200 less when you get a future proofed hardware for the next console generation. :smug

I'd be interested how they price this, as for example PCIe 4.0 NVMe drives have only just begun to pop up offering similar 5GBps speeds (most commonly such drives are PCIe 3.0 with the upper tier being 3.5MBps). Intel though aren't even supporting PCIe 4.0 for the current 10th gen line up so gamers are limited to AMD boards if they want such 'future-proofing' atm (it's rumored Intel will release new models with 4.0 support in their next iterations though).

Whether or not games out of the gate will be utilizing such insane speeds is another thing but UE5 seems to take great advantage of it.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Looked into this recently since I'm expecting to build a new system with Intel :doge
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Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: chronovore on July 17, 2020, 02:18:30 AM
I don’t think I’ll buy one of these immediately.

I tend to be much happier with the results of waiting a year and letting them get the h/w down in size, heat generation, and lower in energy consumption.

If Sony decides to do another bait and switch on backward compatibility AGAIN only being on the first generation of the hardware though, I’m gonna be pissed off.
Title: Re: Playstation 5 Reveal
Post by: Nintex on July 17, 2020, 04:13:09 AM
PS5 XBXSX will have the first big Navi GPU's and Ray Tracing supported hardware from AMD. These machines will have tech not currently available on PC. While usually consoles are a GPU gen or 2 behind. They won't be cheap at launch.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: benjipwns on July 28, 2020, 12:55:13 AM
360/PS3 was the same, then AMD and Nvidia rolled that stuff into their normal cards, of course then the PS3 was delayed so the Nvidia cards were out before it and AMD's had been out for sometime iirc
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on July 28, 2020, 10:30:07 AM
Supposedly, August 6th is the current schedule for launch date and price reveal... Guess we'll see...

Roberto Serrano' (@geronimo_73) Tweeted:
*BREAKING NEWS*

#PS5 fans, pin this📌

Sony @PlayStation 5 next event is scheduled for AUGUST 6th 2020 - 1pm PT | 4pm ET | 10pm CEST

Watch it on
🔵https://t.co/EMGyFxKJQQ
🔵https://t.co/Y6i3xubvdQ
🔵https://t.co/fWWQgTEybi

*TO BE CONFIRMED*
_

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 28, 2020, 10:30:58 AM
Onboard raytracing has been a reality in the pc world for a few years already

:yeshrug

The problem with it is that if you want to play above 1080p you take a huge framerate hit (even at 1080 tbh)

I doubt going down to 7nm will magically fix this issue, it's going to take several years to make 1440 or 4k raytracing games running even a solid 30fps a reality
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on July 28, 2020, 02:01:17 PM

*TO BE CONFIRMED*
_

 :comeon
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Brehvolution on July 28, 2020, 03:02:09 PM
We know very little about AMD's RT solution so it's really just hard to say what they pulled off.  The near silence on it doesn't seem encouraging, the only thing we have is MS's Minecraft demo which wasn't super promising. 

PS5 might have custom RT though;  that Tempest engine for 3d Audio sounded way overpowered for 3d audio and theoretically could be used to perform some RT calculations.

But that's dipping a bit into "secret sauce" territory.

The audio portion of the reveal video is what I paid the most attention to. They didn't show a price for the headset, but I'm going to guess it's in the $200-$400 range. The PS4 platinum headset is $130.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on August 13, 2020, 11:26:39 AM
Sony's got Ray Tracing working in Spider-Man

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfTr_tUUcAA6y4N?format=jpg)

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In Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales, set in winter one year after the events of the previous game, Miles' Harlem home is on the verge of being torn apart by a war between an energy corporation and a criminal organization armed to the teeth with advanced tech. It's not a formal sequel to Spider-Man. That, if the coy responses from the creatives are any sign, may or may not be coming later. It's a shorter spin-off, likened in scope to the Lost Legacy game in the Uncharted series. Nevertheless, Intihar promises "it has a lot of heart."
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on August 13, 2020, 12:04:22 PM
They actually have at least 1 first party launch title, so that list war is won  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on August 13, 2020, 01:24:39 PM
"It has a lot of heart"  :lol That's a new one.
Anyway i enjoyed Spiderman enough, so i'm looking forward to play this eventually, but i'm not sure it justifies 500€ of console.  ::)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Trent Dole on August 13, 2020, 04:40:29 PM
They actually have at least 1 first party launch title, so that list war is won  :lol
Mm, isn't it mostly an expansion to an already existing game? Granted it's more than X has at this point. :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on August 13, 2020, 05:22:04 PM
"It has a lot of heart"  :lol That's a new one.
Anyway i enjoyed Spiderman enough, so i'm looking forward to play this eventually, but i'm not sure it justifies 500€ of console.  ::)

Not a lot of ways to describe an expansion that's going to likely be the same game with an xmas setting, 60fps and some graphical touches, and a new story campaign and some new side missions.

I've been to NYC at xmas and it's pretty awesome, so that's actually a real good modified city as they can go all out with decorations and lights to show off the visuals. And like you said, the main game is good, so more of the same is fine.

But I'm not expecting anything beyond more of the same here.

Though most launch titles suck across the board for every system, so more of the same is probably still gonna rank high for launch games. Too bad they killed Psygnosis and we don't get a new Wipeout at launch.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 13, 2020, 06:03:11 PM
This shit is launching in ostensibly 3ish months and we STILL don't have date and price, lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Akala on August 13, 2020, 06:04:53 PM
Too bad they killed Psygnosis and we don't get a new Wipeout at launch.

I think I would rather an old-school Ridge Racer at this point.  :walkaway
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on August 13, 2020, 06:33:09 PM
Too bad they killed Psygnosis and we don't get a new Wipeout at launch.

I think I would rather an old-school Ridge Racer at this point.  :walkaway
It's a shame that Ridge Racer Switch project was never finished. Would've been a great fit for the platform.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on August 13, 2020, 06:42:31 PM
This shit is launching in ostensibly 3ish months and we STILL don't have date and price, lol
Microsoft apparently delayed their next 'mic drop moment' from August to September to unveil the Series S. So that's probably when the price will be announced.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on August 13, 2020, 07:29:33 PM
This shit is launching in ostensibly 3ish months and we STILL don't have date and price, lol
Price is: "if you have to ask, you can't afford it". :success
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on August 13, 2020, 08:25:28 PM
Too bad they killed Psygnosis and we don't get a new Wipeout at launch.

I think I would rather an old-school Ridge Racer at this point.  :walkaway

Or a traditional Hot Shots Golf...

A lot of Sony's smaller/cheaper/faster to develop launch kind of games are missing because the game industry has killed all games that aren't AAA or indie :(

I don't expect a non-VR/non-mobile HSG on PS5. I'll be happy to be wrong though.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on August 13, 2020, 08:28:56 PM
Best launch in recent memory for me was probably the PSP. Lumines, Wipeout, Ridge Racer, Hot Shots Golf. I'd say PSP, Dreamcast are the best launches I can remember. I don't think any of the Playstations had good launch lineup day 1.


Also keep in mind that launch lineups were better when there was a 6 month gap between Japan launch and western launch since it gave devs 6 months longer to finish their games and get out for launch. Day 1 launches have always been barebones. Remember Fantavision?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: tiesto on August 13, 2020, 09:06:03 PM
As an rpg fan, console launches are usually a dead zone for me. I think FF4 was like the only quality rpg to be in a console's launch window. And Dark Cloud and Evolution to a much lesser extent. Even rpg behemoths like the PS1, 2, 4, DS took a while for the genre to kick in on the respective platform.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on August 13, 2020, 10:10:25 PM
Too bad they killed Psygnosis and we don't get a new Wipeout at launch.

I think I would rather an old-school Ridge Racer at this point.  :walkaway

Or a traditional Hot Shots Golf...

A lot of Sony's smaller/cheaper/faster to develop launch kind of games are missing because the game industry has killed all games that aren't AAA or indie :(

I don't expect a non-VR/non-mobile HSG on PS5. I'll be happy to be wrong though.

Maybe not HSG, however:

https://www.gematsu.com/2020/07/clap-hanz-trademarks-clap-hanz-golf-in-japan-izanagi-games-trademarks-worlds-end-club
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Everybody’s Golf / Hot Shots Golf series developer Clap Hanz has trademarked “Clap Hanz Golf” in Japan, and Izanagi Games has trademarked “World’s End Club.”

While the Everybody’s Golf / Hot Shots Golf series is owned by Sony Interactive Entertainment, it is possible Clap Hanz is currently working on an independent golf title. The studio has only ever created games for Sony Interactive Entertainment, however, so it is also possible it is expanding to non-golf titles and will use “Clap Hanz Golf” as branding for future golf titles.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on August 13, 2020, 10:14:16 PM
Best launch in recent memory for me was probably the PSP. Lumines, Wipeout, Ridge Racer, Hot Shots Golf. I'd say PSP, Dreamcast are the best launches I can remember. I don't think any of the Playstations had good launch lineup day 1.

Also keep in mind that launch lineups were better when there was a 6 month gap between Japan launch and western launch since it gave devs 6 months longer to finish their games and get out for launch.

I've bought almost all of the mainstream consoles on day one (either the Japanese or American launches) since the Dreamcast came out- before that I got the PS1 at launch.

The portables seem to have better launches.  GBA, PSP, and Vita were all pretty good.  Wasn't as big on the DS launch, although I was all over the 3DS launch just for Street Fighter, lol.

Day 1 launches have always been barebones. Remember Fantavision?

Yeah- it was pretty good.
:bolo

That Soichi Terada soundtrack
:lawd

Edit: I was looking for music and it looks like the American version has a different and much worse soundtrack.  :yuck

Edit 2: So chill~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZDLG985GQg
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: tiesto on August 13, 2020, 11:56:09 PM
Love me some Soichi Terada

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6YW7FB1lYQ
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: kingv on August 16, 2020, 03:02:09 PM
"It has a lot of heart"  :lol That's a new one.
Anyway i enjoyed Spiderman enough, so i'm looking forward to play this eventually, but i'm not sure it justifies 500€ of console.  ::)

Same. It sounds like a stand-alone dlc pack and not a full game. :-/
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on August 19, 2020, 07:52:58 AM
Deathloop has been pushed back to Q2 2021.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on August 19, 2020, 08:34:03 AM
Here we are creeping to the end of August already, and still don't know shit about this system that's supposedly releasing in 3 month's time.  :titus
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 19, 2020, 08:44:26 AM
I can easily see both ps5 and xbox getting pushed back to march next year cuz there will be no games ready for them :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Trent Dole on August 19, 2020, 07:59:36 PM
I can easily see both ps5 and xbox getting pushed back to march next year cuz there will be no games ready for them :lol :lol :lol
Honestly this is what should happen given the current state of the world but neither company wants to blink and potentially let the other have the Holiday season all to themselves.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on August 19, 2020, 08:13:12 PM
They're waiting to see if US is getting a second round of stimulus checks..  If it gets approved, boom... prices and pre-orders will magically open.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on August 19, 2020, 09:59:55 PM
It was under 2 months between the January Switch presentation w/ price announcement and the March launch.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on August 27, 2020, 08:45:41 AM
Got an email to register for possible pre-order.   Guess we'll see.   :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on August 27, 2020, 10:24:42 AM
Got an email to register for possible pre-order.   Guess we'll see.   :doge

Pre-orders for pre-orders!  GET HYPE!! :hyper

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Trent Dole on August 27, 2020, 01:26:55 PM
Got an email to register for possible pre-order.   Guess we'll see.   :doge

Pre-orders for pre-orders!  GET HYPE!! :hyper
It's the new announcements of up coming announcements! :rejoice
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on August 27, 2020, 02:08:46 PM
I have a feeling this is going to be a weird launch just to get "launched in 2020" on paper with the real launch to be spring/summer next year.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 27, 2020, 02:36:53 PM
thats why they should delay, the only games coming out that will hit release (for xbox especially) are cross gen games (COD, New AC, FIFA, NBA). Sony has Spiderman as a proper next gen launch game?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on August 27, 2020, 03:26:48 PM
Astrobot Playroom will be fine with me.  :ohyeah
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on August 27, 2020, 04:53:55 PM
Honestly if I wasn't a PeeCee gamer I'd be buying next-gen consoles to run CyberPunk in BC.

That game is probably going to suck even on Pro/XOX

Launch PS4 will take off like a jet engine.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on August 27, 2020, 05:10:43 PM
Honestly if I wasn't a PeeCee gamer I'd be buying next-gen consoles to run CyberPunk in BC.

That game is probably going to suck even on Pro/XOX

Launch PS4 will take off like a jet engine.
Damn right... and I'll most likely be there hanging on for the rough beginning ride... Only to have a boost when I transfer it to PS5, and then, further boosted when the next gen upgrade patch drops onto it..  It'll feel like gradually upgrading my cybernetic implants in the game.. the FULL PRAYSTATION CYBORPUNX SEXPERIENCEZ.   :woooo
It'll probably take that long for me to play through the game anyway. lawl
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on August 28, 2020, 02:08:37 PM
Its interesting that Snoys are all about 1080/60 now that they don't have the most powerful console anymore.

As someone with a 1080p tv, I am cool with that everything being 60fps now.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on August 28, 2020, 03:36:04 PM
It surprises me to see how many games now seemingly have PS5 as their lead platform.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on September 01, 2020, 07:00:18 PM
That shit adds up, yo!

I'm impatient as shit.. way more excited for SSD than anything else lol

As well as PCIE 4.0 drives on PC, and beyond.  Although PCs lacking dedicated decompression hardware / not having as streamlined / customized I/O is gonna set them back, for quite a while I think.

these sorts of quality of life improvements that make a system feel modern and fluid are what i'm really looking forward to lol. ps4 and xbone UI/UX feels so clunky now
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 12, 2020, 11:47:58 AM
(https://blog.playstation.com/tachyon/2020/09/SIE_Project_Nimble_LOCALIZATION_003_EN-01.jpg)

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Before PlayStation 5 launches this holiday, we wanted to give you one more look at some of the great games coming to PS5 at launch (and beyond!).

Our next digital showcase will weigh in at around 40 minutes, and feature updates on the latest titles from Worldwide Studios and our world-class development partners.

Tune in live on Twitch or YouTube this Wednesday, September 16 at 1pm PDT / 9pm BST / 10pm CEST to see what’s next for PS5.
https://blog.playstation.com/2020/09/12/watch-live-playstation-5-showcase-on-wednesday-september-16/amp/

30 minutes of BugSnax probably :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 12, 2020, 03:32:31 PM
So what if the ps5 is the lead platform

Making the Series X version is basically turning on some extra options in the gfx menu.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Trent Dole on September 12, 2020, 05:00:48 PM
Then the new gen will be the same as the current one. :yeshrug
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: brawndolicious on September 12, 2020, 05:13:06 PM
Then the new gen will be the same as the current one. :yeshrug

Yeah...pretty much. Between XSS, PS5, and XSX every console port is probably just going to have a dynamic res ranging from mostly 1080P to mostly 4K with everything slathered in TAA.

Makes you wonder about what the next-next-gen will have. RAM isn't getting much cheaper and transistors aren't getting much smaller anymore.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 16, 2020, 08:07:21 AM
Alright, Sony... whachugot?

(https://media.giphy.com/media/HbkT5F5CiRD3O/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on September 16, 2020, 09:23:09 AM
THE NEWS YOU HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR

Go! Go! 5 Jigen Game Neptune: re★Verse, from Compile Heart, is...

...a port of Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth 1 Plus for PC, which was a port of a Vita game, which was a port/redone version of a PS3 game. :dizzy
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 16, 2020, 09:49:39 AM
THE NEWS YOU HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR

Go! Go! 5 Jigen Game Neptune: re★Verse, from Compile Heart, is...

...a port of Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth 1 Plus for PC, which was a port of a Vita game, which was a port/redone version of a PS3 game. :dizzy

This time maybe they'll remake it into a good game.



j/k, they won't
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 16, 2020, 12:54:11 PM
I hope we get ANOTHER game about furry high school students and the end of the world
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 16, 2020, 01:08:49 PM
Preshow rumors/leaks

- 499€ for the PS5
- 399€ for the PS5 Digital Edition
- Opening pre-orders on Thursday, September 17 from 9 am (French time)
- 4 games available for pre-order : Spider-Man: Miles Morales, Destruction All-Stars, Demon's Souls Remake and Sackboy Adventures.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 16, 2020, 03:52:13 PM
u r not rdy?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 16, 2020, 03:54:20 PM
https://youtu.be/tjji8NEW9lo
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 16, 2020, 04:04:08 PM
is this final fantasy? character faces look like shid
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 16, 2020, 04:04:46 PM
Another action based FF game, exactly what I dont want out of FF
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Coffee Dog on September 16, 2020, 04:06:04 PM
Beat em up final fantasy isn't doing it for me :( the combat looks too western arpg for my tastes. I like the ffxiv aesthetic a lot though.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 16, 2020, 04:06:29 PM
thats gotta be cross gen, ff7 remake looks better  :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 16, 2020, 04:08:12 PM
Reflections are nice but where are the shadows?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on September 16, 2020, 04:08:32 PM
That looked a few years behind FFVIIR :lol

I guess it looks a lot more "open world" so there's that.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: tiesto on September 16, 2020, 04:09:08 PM
Yeah I thought that was an FF14 expansion for a moment... combat looks more DMC influenced. Guess the days of turn based FF are over though unfortunately :(
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 16, 2020, 04:10:34 PM
 :boring
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 16, 2020, 04:12:20 PM
that final fantasy looked so fucking boring
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 16, 2020, 04:12:47 PM
Check out this cutscene with quicktime events brehs!
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 16, 2020, 04:13:09 PM
Avengers looks better than this.

 :badass
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 16, 2020, 04:14:16 PM
Finally we see the Harry Potter game again
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 16, 2020, 04:16:08 PM
At least looks better than that LOTR Golem game. lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 16, 2020, 04:16:41 PM
At least looks better than that LOTR Golem game. lol

Well..yeah

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on September 16, 2020, 04:17:17 PM
Calladoody :snore
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 16, 2020, 04:21:57 PM
Guys, are videogames just bad now?

There haven't been any really good new videogames in awhile now
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 16, 2020, 04:22:02 PM
AAA gaming :snore
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 16, 2020, 04:22:54 PM
Why are they talking about PS4 stuff?  :noah
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 16, 2020, 04:23:36 PM
Aw shit... finally some more Village!
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on September 16, 2020, 04:24:45 PM
Tim Burton on the line, would like to have a word with Crapcom.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 16, 2020, 04:24:47 PM
Miles Morales coming to PS4 as well

https://blog.playstation.com/2020/09/16/see-the-marvels-spider-man-miles-morales-new-gameplay-demo/
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 16, 2020, 04:26:12 PM
Game will be great but man, this generation's visuals are gonna be disappointing, ain't they?

Compared to what PC's will be capable of, yes.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 16, 2020, 04:27:11 PM
FFXVI looked amazing and sounded like Hevansword. Wow this is going to be amazing. If the story is even somewhat as good, man.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 16, 2020, 04:29:31 PM
holy shit.. just move onto something else.. quit dragging this shit out..  probably 10 minutes of BugSnax incoming
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 16, 2020, 04:29:32 PM
Is this really all there is  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 16, 2020, 04:30:15 PM
More DMC. This is fucking awesome so far.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 16, 2020, 04:30:34 PM
y'all bitch a lot about videogames
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 16, 2020, 04:32:10 PM
Why are they showing the exact same games as last time  :mindblown :trash :snoop
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 16, 2020, 04:32:23 PM
can't say anything so far has interested me bar ff which is hopefully cross-gen :whew
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 16, 2020, 04:35:30 PM
Five Nights at Freddy's

Oh right this gets me excited for your next gen console 

 :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 16, 2020, 04:36:13 PM
Finally a good game  :whew

Too bad I already played it
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 16, 2020, 04:36:27 PM
Harry Potter looked great. Normally I don't care about HP, but an rpg is pretty much what everyone wanted.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 16, 2020, 04:37:03 PM
Demon Souls looking fantastic. PlayStation is killing it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 16, 2020, 04:39:59 PM
No date on Demon Souls :(

It looks fucking amazing tho
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 16, 2020, 04:40:01 PM
Demon's Souls looks incredible
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on September 16, 2020, 04:40:09 PM
Demon's looks INSANE.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 16, 2020, 04:40:31 PM
Ok Fortnite wasn't needed.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 16, 2020, 04:40:42 PM
Woah, you can play Fortnite on PS5!
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 16, 2020, 04:43:08 PM
Remember all these old ass PS4 games that you already played and gotten free with PS+?

Now you can play them whenever!
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 16, 2020, 04:43:25 PM
soyny doing  game pass?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 16, 2020, 04:43:58 PM
Remember all these old ass PS4 games that you already played and gotten free with PS+?

Now you can play them whenever!
I mean this is Xbox's main selling point..
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 16, 2020, 04:44:23 PM
400 and 500 euro's
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 16, 2020, 04:44:27 PM
Playstation 5 is mine.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on September 16, 2020, 04:44:40 PM
RIP in pieces Microsoft.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 16, 2020, 04:45:13 PM
Remember all these old ass PS4 games that you already played and gotten free with PS+?

Now you can play them whenever!
I mean this is Xbox's main selling point..

They have new Xbox games at launch, even on PC and third party new titles at launch too.

That isn't Sony's selling point
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 16, 2020, 04:45:31 PM
knew GOW2 was around the corner
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 16, 2020, 04:46:01 PM
That was a great showing.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 16, 2020, 04:46:32 PM
That was a great showing.

I'm sorry my dude but how was this a great showing? 99% of these games have been shown before
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 16, 2020, 04:46:48 PM
probably still gonna get an xbox over it tbh :trumps
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 16, 2020, 04:46:48 PM
Demon's was enough of a system seller for me.  Shit looked sooo good
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 16, 2020, 04:47:02 PM
Remember all these old ass PS4 games that you already played and gotten free with PS+?

Now you can play them whenever!
I mean this is Xbox's main selling point..

They have new Xbox games at launch, even on PC and third party new titles at launch too.

That isn't Sony's selling point
Um no they don't....They have nothing. And any "new"games they have are also on PS5 and PC.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Coffee Dog on September 16, 2020, 04:47:10 PM
Zzz zzz like always.

Miles Morales coming to PS4 as well

https://blog.playstation.com/2020/09/16/see-the-marvels-spider-man-miles-morales-new-gameplay-demo/

This is awesome news, it's the only next gen game I want!
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 16, 2020, 04:48:02 PM
That was a great showing.

I'm sorry my dude but how was this a great showing? 99% of these games have been shown before

if you're into the games they're showing then it was fine, nothing bar ff16 raised an eyebrow for me personally though.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 16, 2020, 04:48:14 PM
100 euro for a disc drive though? Wtf
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on September 16, 2020, 04:48:50 PM
Miles Morales coming to PS4? Sweet, just added to Gamefly
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 16, 2020, 04:48:58 PM
Remember all these old ass PS4 games that you already played and gotten free with PS+?

Now you can play them whenever!
I mean this is Xbox's main selling point..

They have new Xbox games at launch, even on PC and third party new titles at launch too.

That isn't Sony's selling point
Um no they don't....They have nothing. And any "new"games they have are also on PS5 and PC.

Ok sure bud seems Im talking to a Sony plant here without a :brain
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 16, 2020, 04:49:03 PM
That was a great showing.

I'm sorry my dude but how was this a great showing? 99% of these games have been shown before
Harry Potter, FFXVI, DMCV SE, and GoW 2 were shown before?

Were they not supposed to have new trailers for Demon Souls, Spider-man, Blops? You know the big first gen titles?

Seems like kind of a dumb complaint to me, but I still like video games so..

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Ok sure bud seems Im talking to a Sony plant here without a :brain
Nope, just talking to someone who dosen't want to hate everything.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: El Babua on September 16, 2020, 04:49:39 PM
Xbox fans trying to find some cope lmao
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 16, 2020, 04:50:23 PM
That was a great showing.

I'm sorry my dude but how was this a great showing? 99% of these games have been shown before
Harry Potter, FFXVI, DMCV SE, and GoW 2 were shown before?

Were they not supposed to have new trailers for Demon Souls, Spider-man, Blops? You know the big first gen titles?

Seems like kind of a dumb complaint to me, but I still like video games so..

Harry Potter was known to be in development, we have seen the leaked footage. No doubt it's coming to PC and Xbox as well.

Im not interested in action FF, also coming to PC

DMC V is cool but nothing worth a system seller (perhaps for you it is). Probably also coming to PC

Havent even played God of War but I'm not too interested in it either, I have more interest in Horizon Zero Dawn 2
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 16, 2020, 04:51:02 PM
That was a great showing.

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Ok sure bud seems Im talking to a Sony plant here without a :brain
Nope, just talking to someone who dosen't want to hate everything.


No, you obviously have no clue about what Gamepass offers so you try to shit on it instead by saying they have no games.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 16, 2020, 04:54:52 PM
That was a great showing.

I'm sorry my dude but how was this a great showing? 99% of these games have been shown before

Rahx is... well, he likes what he likes. I don't get it but

:yeshrug
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 16, 2020, 04:55:20 PM
399 digital version is all I need to see.  Gonna buy that, unless for some reason the digital version has worse specs outside of the removal of the disc drive.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Kestastrophe on September 16, 2020, 04:55:34 PM
So how is the digital $399 ps5 different from the $299 lower tier that leaked for xbox?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on September 16, 2020, 04:55:55 PM
So how does BC work? Can I play these games I own on there?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 16, 2020, 04:58:15 PM
Wonder what the aftermarket storage situation on the digital version is, if it's proprietary only like the xbox s/x that would suck but if nooooooot that's probably the best deal of the gen
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on September 16, 2020, 04:58:39 PM
So Demon not at launch? Definitely gonna wait a year or so then.

Impressions:

FFXVI looks super bland and generic (and graphically underwhelming).
Miles Morales looks alright, not really a big graphical jump, but it's cross gen.
Harry Potter & CoD - don't give a shit.
REVIII looks amazing as it did before.
PS+ collection - eh, already played all of those, compared to Gamepass is kind of a sad offer.
God of War 2 - don't give a shit, also it's just a logo.
Demon's looks incredibly good, the only next gen looking game so far, but i already played it a lot, so i'm not gonna buy a console for a remake like that.

Price is what we expected.

This Next Gen continues to be incredibly unexciting so far.  :yeshrug
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 16, 2020, 04:59:00 PM
So how is the digital $399 ps5 different from the $299 lower tier that leaked for xbox?

Same gpu on the digital version as the regular PS Cinco, not gimped.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 16, 2020, 05:01:07 PM
Keighley is saying Demon Souls is a launch game
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Kestastrophe on September 16, 2020, 05:01:55 PM
So how is the digital $399 ps5 different from the $299 lower tier that leaked for xbox?

Same gpu on the digital version as the regular PS Cinco, not gimped.

Gotcha, thank you. I didnt realize microsoft was fracturing their userbase right outta the gate, interesting strategy
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on September 16, 2020, 05:02:34 PM
FFXVI- also on PC
Demon's Souls- also on PC
Spider-Man Miles Morales- also on PS4

Thanks for saving me money, Sony!
:rejoice
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 16, 2020, 05:05:16 PM
That was a great showing.

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Ok sure bud seems Im talking to a Sony plant here without a :brain
Nope, just talking to someone who dosen't want to hate everything.


No, you obviously have no clue about what Gamepass offers so you try to shit on it instead by saying they have no games.
I have Xbox Live Ultimate. So I have Gamepass on pc and console. Gamepass has only been worthwhile two times. When I wanted to try out Outer Worlds and Gears 5. Two games I don’t care about. Gamepass does nothing for me because I’m not going to wait a year for say FFXV or DMCV to come to it. No I’m intersted in those games so I get them when they come out. Oh boy years later Yakuza 0 is on Gamepass. A game I beat years ago. So it’s really just MS first party which is pretty mediocre at best. And the developers they bought are pretty meh on average. So I don’t care about what MS does. I have an Xbox One X. They did jack shit with it.

In 40 mins Sony had a show with a new FF that looked promising. Great looks at big first year titles like Demon Souls and Spider-man. Nice other reveals like Harry Potter( it was leaked before so?). And the promise of a new sequel in GoW. In 40 mins it was basicly “yep the PS4 style is continuing”.

If your not into that that’s your deal. But this was an excellent showing for anyone who has liked the PS4.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on September 16, 2020, 05:06:29 PM
FFXVI- also on PC
Demon's Souls- also on PC
Spider-Man Miles Morales- also on PS4

Thanks for saving me money, Sony!
:rejoice
This confirmed? Megaton.
Holy shit thank you Sony, i'm fully investing in a GPU then.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 16, 2020, 05:07:34 PM
The Series S seems like a bit of a waste now. Who the fuck would keep 100$ for a console that can only play XONE games day one, and not as well as the ONE X?

What a joke.

The Series S is already a disaster imo. It's not only holding back next gen, but it's a useless machine.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 16, 2020, 05:08:44 PM
That was a great showing.

I'm sorry my dude but how was this a great showing? 99% of these games have been shown before

Rahx is... well, he likes what he likes. I don't get it but

:yeshrug
Yeah it’s so odd that I like FF one of the longest running and biggest Japanese series. And that I like that it looks like the new one is in line with XIV, one of the most praised installments in the series.

It’s so odd!

It’s so confusing that someone likes popular things and consoles that are the next one from the most popular modern console. Can’t understand that!
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 16, 2020, 05:10:08 PM
That was a great showing.

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Ok sure bud seems Im talking to a Sony plant here without a :brain
Nope, just talking to someone who dosen't want to hate everything.


No, you obviously have no clue about what Gamepass offers so you try to shit on it instead by saying they have no games.
I have Xbox Live Ultimate. So I have Gamepass on pc and console. Gamepass has only been worthwhile two times. When I wanted to try out Outer Worlds and Gears 5. Two games I don’t care about. Gamepass does nothing for me because I’m not going to wait a year for say FFXV or DMCV to come to it. No I’m intersted in those games so I get them when they come out. Oh boy years later Yakuza 0 is on Gamepass. A game I beat years ago. So it’s really just MS first party which is pretty mediocre at best. And the developers they bought are pretty meh on average. So I don’t care about what MS does. I have an Xbox One X. They did jack shit with it.

In 40 mins Sony had a show with a new FF that looked promising. Great looks at big first year titles like Demon Souls and Spider-man. Nice other reveals like Harry Potter( it was leaked before so?). And the promise of a new sequel in GoW. In 40 mins it was basicly “yep the PS4 style is continuing”.

If your not into that that’s your deal. But this was an excellent showing for anyone who has liked the PS4.

I liked the PS4 well enough but I didn't see anything that wowed me at any point at ALL.

No new gameplay ideas, nothing new except a shiny coat of graphics. And even that coat isn't that shiny.

No instead we get quicktime events in Spiderman. Rofl.

Sorry to hear Gamepass hasn't offered you anything interesting. To me on PC with games like Wasteland 3, MS Flight Sim, and generally a bunch of great indie games coming to the platform I think it offers a lot better deal than this new PS+ thing.

And how does the new FF look anything like XIV?

The new game looks like a totally action based combat game. Nothing in the way of RPG.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 16, 2020, 05:11:21 PM
Keighley is saying Demon Souls is a launch game
Gosh I hope so.  All my focus is on that game right now.  Everything else can suck it... .... except Cyberpunk...
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on September 16, 2020, 05:11:30 PM
FF16 apparently a moneyhatted exclusive to nobody's surprise
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: thetylerrob on September 16, 2020, 05:11:32 PM
I hope we don't have to wait a whole year for FF16 and Demon's Souls on PC. I might cave if it's a year wait for those. Otherwise nothing else I'm interested in besides God of War I guess.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on September 16, 2020, 05:12:24 PM
That was a great showing.

I'm sorry my dude but how was this a great showing? 99% of these games have been shown before

Rahx is... well, he likes what he likes. I don't get it but

:yeshrug
Yeah it’s so odd that I like FF one of the longest running and biggest Japanese series. And that I like that it looks like the new one is in line with XIV, one of the most praised installments in the series.

It’s so odd!

It’s so confusing that someone likes popular things and consoles that are the next one from the most popular modern console. Can’t understand that!
It does look like an offline MMO. :teehee
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 16, 2020, 05:17:47 PM
Was busy with work and forgot about this.

Saw the Nov 12th launch date and price and pre-orders tomorrow (hopefully Amazon and it doesn't sell out in 12 seconds).


What's the tl;dr on what else was announced?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 16, 2020, 05:18:26 PM
mmarsu, you can tilt at the windmill of Rahx's taste or just accept that he's, like, this weird xillenial that likes what he likes. I gave up long ago trying to make sense of it and just sort of let him be wrong constantly, it's fiiiiiiiiiiiine honestly.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on September 16, 2020, 05:22:10 PM
What's the tl;dr on what else was announced?

-Spider-Man Miles Morales is cross-gen and will be on PS4
-Devil May Cry 5 Special Edition at launch (also on XBox and likely PC)
-Harry Potter Hogwarts Legacy coming out on PS4/PS5/XB1/XS/PC
-Final Fantasy XVI will be coming out on PS5 and PC
-Demon's Souls will be released on PC and (it appears) XBox later on
-More footage of Deathloop, CoD, RE8, and some other stuff shown
-Teaser for new God Of War in 2021
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 16, 2020, 05:23:13 PM
I don’t know what you are expecting form the first year of a new console. You people always complain about not seeing new ideas from trailers that are no longer than 5 mins. And if that’s your complaint (which is pretty reductive anyway) then I’m not sure how your happy with anything. Even in the showing you had things like FFXVI and REVIII that are taking long running series in new directions. Some times you people just need to admit you don’t like anything.

And how’s does XVI not give off XIV vibes? The art direction, character design, armor, writing, story, and even look of the character models all give off Hevansword vibes. If you don’t think so you haven’t played the game simple as that.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 16, 2020, 05:23:17 PM
Wow, FFXVI trailer is the least interesting/exciting looking mainline FF announcement I've seen. Ugh, the art style looks A LOT like FFXV/Kingsglaive, especially the summons. Also looks like The Witcher....

But hopefully it'll be a good game since FFXIV team and all.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 16, 2020, 05:24:02 PM
mmarsu, you can til at the windmill of Rahx's taste or just accept that he's, like, this weird xillenial that likes what he likes. I gave up long ago trying to make sense of it and just sort of let him be wrong constantly, it's fiiiiiiiiiiiine honestly.
Quite honestly. You come off as a jaded asshole and you should shut the fuck up.

Wrong about what? That I like things like FF and what PlayStation first party offers? I’m sorry I’m not an asshole like you so I don’t have a stick up my ass and have this delusional pretension like you.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on September 16, 2020, 05:24:39 PM
No way Demon Souls comes to Xbox. It will be PC+PS5 only
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on September 16, 2020, 05:27:10 PM
Horizon coming to PS4 as well
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 16, 2020, 05:27:23 PM
I'll wait and see which one does multiplatform games the best, then get a slim redesign for whichever I didn't get at launch.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: tiesto on September 16, 2020, 05:28:38 PM
Honestly, while these PS5 reveals have been pretty 'meh', they still seem a lot more interesting than the early PS4 reveals... come on, people were so desperate back then that they were getting hyped for the new Killzone game :P

Demon's Souls looked very nice, even if I'm not a huge Souls fan. I like the 'idea' of souls more than the actual gameplay I guess. Harry Potter had great gfx but my interest in that series is pretty much nil (even before the transphobia). FF16 looks extremely bland graphically, thought it was an FF14 expansion when I first saw it :P The dev team has some promise and I do like how they're going back to the 'roots' a bit, with the crystals and the main theme, less so interested at it being another action RPG. The real test will be whether or not it has a solid storyline or a bunch of jumbled crap requiring datalog reading and expanded media to even have some semblance of an idea what was going on (hellooooo 13 and 15), and whether or not it'll be a more directed, story-driven game or a bland open world filled with boring sidequests.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 16, 2020, 05:30:17 PM
You people

https://youtu.be/99IoN2pymfE?t=1
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 16, 2020, 05:31:06 PM
Horizon coming to PS4 as well

Hahahah what????????????  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on September 16, 2020, 05:31:27 PM
No way Demon Souls comes to Xbox. It will be PC+PS5 only

I wonder if it will end up on PS4, too, then?  That "not available on other consoles for a limited time" shown at the end of the trailer has to mean something.
:thinking
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 16, 2020, 05:31:40 PM
People like you and Human Snoreado.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: who is ted danson? on September 16, 2020, 05:32:20 PM
Time to pick up a PS4 Pro and enjoy next generation  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on September 16, 2020, 05:34:12 PM
Horizon coming to PS4 as well

Hahahah what????????????  :lol

Additionally, we know that the PS4 community will transition to PS5 at different times, and we’re happy to announce PS4 versions of some of our exclusives. Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales, Sackboy A Big Adventure, and Horizon Forbidden West will also launch on PS4. While these three games were designed to take advantage of PS5 and its unique next-gen features like the ultra-high-speed SSD and DualSense controller, PS4 owners will also be able to enjoy these experiences when they launch. The PS4 digital versions of launch games include a free upgrade on both PS5 consoles, while the PS4 disc versions of these games include a free upgrade on the PS5 with Ultra HD Blu-Ray disc drive.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 16, 2020, 05:34:43 PM
mmarsu, you can til at the windmill of Rahx's taste or just accept that he's, like, this weird xillenial that likes what he likes. I gave up long ago trying to make sense of it and just sort of let him be wrong constantly, it's fiiiiiiiiiiiine honestly.
Quite honestly. You come off as a jaded asshole and you should shut the fuck up.

Wrong about what? That I like things like FF and what PlayStation first party offers? I’m sorry I’m not an asshole like you so I don’t have a stick up my ass and have this delusional pretension like you.

I am ABSOLUTELY a jaded asshole and will not shut the fuck up. I like plenty of Sony first party shit (Dad of War, Horizon) but you just have different tastes than I do. I know you perceive ANY FUCKING ATTENTION AT ALL as an attack but honestly, I was serious when I was telling mmarsu to just let you be. You're not hurting anyone other than your own eyeballs with your gaming habits, more power to you. Go like your shitty "action" FF, plz enjoy.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 16, 2020, 05:36:43 PM
All in all a confident and cool showing from Sony this evening :biden
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 16, 2020, 05:41:00 PM
mmarsu, you can til at the windmill of Rahx's taste or just accept that he's, like, this weird xillenial that likes what he likes. I gave up long ago trying to make sense of it and just sort of let him be wrong constantly, it's fiiiiiiiiiiiine honestly.
Quite honestly. You come off as a jaded asshole and you should shut the fuck up.

Wrong about what? That I like things like FF and what PlayStation first party offers? I’m sorry I’m not an asshole like you so I don’t have a stick up my ass and have this delusional pretension like you.

I am ABSOLUTELY a jaded asshole and will not shut the fuck up. I like plenty of Sony first party shit (Dad of War, Horizon) but you just have different tastes than I do. I know you perceive ANY FUCKING ATTENTION AT ALL as an attack but honestly, I was serious when I was telling mmarsu to just let you be. You're not hurting anyone other than your own eyeballs with your gaming habits, more power to you. Go like your shitty "action" FF, plz enjoy.
I know you like to play the “I’m just so above it all card” but your shtick is very annoying. The big difference here is when you offer your opinion, I don’t give a shit. When I offer mine you like to post shit like you did in this thread.

Why don’t you actually act like you talk for once.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 16, 2020, 05:41:58 PM
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/5zEeBWDRsReLK/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47tr8y73n4e9gs0z0f7815fwphr4o9xbr7kp592be8&rid=giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on September 16, 2020, 05:42:03 PM
All these Sony fanooks crying about Xbox holding back next gen, just to go full cross gen themselves  :lol

Decent showing though, even with all these none exclusive games, 70 euro games and a price that is pretty much Ps3 price if you don't want to be locked into the shitty psn store
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on September 16, 2020, 05:42:26 PM
mmarsu, you can til at the windmill of Rahx's taste or just accept that he's, like, this weird xillenial that likes what he likes. I gave up long ago trying to make sense of it and just sort of let him be wrong constantly, it's fiiiiiiiiiiiine honestly.
Quite honestly. You come off as a jaded asshole and you should shut the fuck up.

Wrong about what? That I like things like FF and what PlayStation first party offers? I’m sorry I’m not an asshole like you so I don’t have a stick up my ass and have this delusional pretension like you.

I am ABSOLUTELY a jaded asshole and will not shut the fuck up. I like plenty of Sony first party shit (Dad of War, Horizon) but you just have different tastes than I do. I know you perceive ANY FUCKING ATTENTION AT ALL as an attack but honestly, I was serious when I was telling mmarsu to just let you be. You're not hurting anyone other than your own eyeballs with your gaming habits, more power to you. Go like your shitty "action" FF, plz enjoy.
I know you like to play the “I’m just so above it all card” but your shtick is very annoying. The big difference here is when you offer your opinion, I don’t give a shit. When I offer mine you like to post shit like you did in this thread.

Why don’t you actually act like you talk for once.

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/1bd0200b237dcd5d3192b76a53c652d8/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 16, 2020, 05:45:07 PM
No

I don’t get why Snorenedo’s smug post. But I guess I should be happy I’m “allowed” to like things he doesn’t?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 16, 2020, 05:45:13 PM
No way Demon Souls comes to Xbox. It will be PC+PS5 only

I wonder if it will end up on PS4, too, then?  That "not available on other consoles for a limited time" shown at the end of the trailer has to mean something.
:thinking

Nintex says it’s coming to switch 2 :rash
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on September 16, 2020, 05:45:33 PM
But how does BC worrrrrrrk I need to play my *checks notes* Is It Wrong To Try To Pick Up Girls In A Dungeon? (https://www.gamestop.com/video-games/playstation-4/games/products/is-it-wrong-to-try-to-pick-up-girls-in-a-dungeon%3F-infinite-combate/11099625.html) this is important
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on September 16, 2020, 05:46:24 PM
But how does BC worrrrrrrk I need to play my *checks notes* Is It Wrong To Try To Pick Up Girls In A Dungeon? (https://www.gamestop.com/video-games/playstation-4/games/products/is-it-wrong-to-try-to-pick-up-girls-in-a-dungeon%3F-infinite-combate/11099625.html) this is important

They are still pretty quiet on this.  :-\
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Lonewulfeus on September 16, 2020, 05:46:32 PM
Just think, if rahx gets triggered hard enough he might post a gif of someone else playing the ps5 and claim it’s him :heh
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 16, 2020, 05:48:44 PM
The fact that you keep referencing my bj video means I’ve won.

I’m happy you keep thinking about it. I don’t think about you. It’s nice living rent free in your mind.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on September 16, 2020, 05:50:26 PM
That was a solid showing from Snoy but I feel they split this up too much (as did Microsoft).

If they had shown most of this in one go, it would've been really impressive. Like, wow, you guys got Ratchet and Final Fantasy?
Also stop trying to make Death Loop happen, it ain't gonna happen.

399 Euro console is nice but 79,99 Euro games* is some bullshit fine print that probably doesn't translate to retail after launch which instantly makes the PlayStation Thicc the better choice.
*also on PC for 49,99


Also stop being mean to Rhax. It's shit like that which drives people to the Discord lifeboat  :-\
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Lonewulfeus on September 16, 2020, 05:51:15 PM
Didn’t even see it but it’s funny in a super pathetic way, it’s not how I’d want to be remembered :trumps
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: thisismyusername on September 16, 2020, 05:53:44 PM
If Devil May Cry 5: Special Edition isn't a DLC add-on for previous owners since it was released last year, I'm gonna be fucking angry.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on September 16, 2020, 05:54:16 PM
If Devil May Cry 5: Special Edition isn't a DLC add-on for previous owners since it was released last year, I'm gonna be fucking angry.

Get ready to get angry!
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 16, 2020, 05:55:20 PM
Yet you keep bringing it up like a pathetic and sad internet troll who has no life. No one will remember you because you’re nothing. Like Jesus dude I don’t know you and you are constantly a little shit. Get a life. I don’t know how I hurt you but get over it.

Your contribution here is simply coming trying to insult me. Nobody cares and you come off as a loser. Move on.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 16, 2020, 05:57:32 PM
Anything look cool? The only videos I'm finding are FFXVI and Demon Souls. I'm guessing they showed more than that? Also where are the 3rd party launch titles?

If Devil May Cry 5: Special Edition isn't a DLC add-on for previous owners since it was released last year, I'm gonna be fucking angry.

I thought they said it was DLC for existing game.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Positive Touch on September 16, 2020, 05:59:04 PM
watch the RE8 trailer. looks like they're going for a RE4 vibe.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Lonewulfeus on September 16, 2020, 05:59:12 PM
My shtick is fire safety :smug
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: thisismyusername on September 16, 2020, 06:01:20 PM
If Devil May Cry 5: Special Edition isn't a DLC add-on for previous owners since it was released last year, I'm gonna be fucking angry.

Get ready to get angry!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP3gmXMUkQg

More seriously: Everyone was like "WTF, no playable Vergil?" "It's gonna be SE. :)" are proven right.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 16, 2020, 06:07:40 PM
That was a great showing.

I'm sorry my dude but how was this a great showing? 99% of these games have been shown before

Rahx is... well, he likes what he likes. I don't get it but

:yeshrug
Yeah it’s so odd that I like FF one of the longest running and biggest Japanese series. And that I like that it looks like the new one is in line with XIV, one of the most praised installments in the series.

It’s so odd!

It’s so confusing that someone likes popular things and consoles that are the next one from the most popular modern console. Can’t understand that!
It does look like an offline MMO. :teehee
The visuals were underwhelming.

But I’m excited because obviously it’s FF. But it already looks to have a different tone  and vibe then the last couple of FF games. The dialogue in the trailer was not too cringy and like XIV. Heavensword had one of the best stories in the series. If they could hit that again that would be great. I also am up for a non nomura FF. I don’t care about the action combat. If it’s good it’s good, but that battle was lost years ago. It could easily be good, VIIR was.

I’m excited because new installments in series I like simply mean chances at new games I’ll like. I also don’t feel I am at all cynical when it comes to games.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Akala on September 16, 2020, 06:09:59 PM
in YoshiP we trust.  :salute
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 16, 2020, 06:13:02 PM
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/1bd0200b237dcd5d3192b76a53c652d8/tenor.gif)

You probably didn't notice it, but there's actually an Xbox Series S in that gif.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 16, 2020, 06:14:10 PM
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/1bd0200b237dcd5d3192b76a53c652d8/tenor.gif)

You probably didn't notice it, but there's actually an Xbox Series S in that gif.
Phil, you sneaky fuck.  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on September 16, 2020, 06:15:11 PM
After FF12 there were like 3 junctions any JRPG could take

- Weeb (like Xenoblade 2 after the original)
- Future/Cyberpunk (the direction they took FF13 and FF15 in)
- Western/Fantasy (Witcher, GoT)

FF16 has arrived at that final destination.
After this probably weeb and we've come full circle.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 16, 2020, 06:15:16 PM
Also the fact that it was a long trailer, with plenty of gameplay, and English voice acting is promising.

It also didn’t look fake.

I also think it will look better with a better quality video.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on September 16, 2020, 06:29:01 PM
FF16 is hideous. Launch lineup seems good. Won't get it day 1, but down the line I could pick up Astro (obviously) and maybe Demon's and Sackboy.

watch the RE8 trailer. looks like they're going for a RE4 vibe.

RE4 except horror  :hyper
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: tiesto on September 16, 2020, 06:31:23 PM
If Devil May Cry 5: Special Edition isn't a DLC add-on for previous owners since it was released last year, I'm gonna be fucking angry.

From the company who brought you:
Street Fighter 2 Championship Edition
Street Fighter 2 Turbo
Super Street Fighter 2
Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo
Super Street Fighter 4
Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition
Ultra Street Fighter 4
and made them all brand-new purchases...
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on September 16, 2020, 06:33:10 PM
The visuals were underwhelming.

But I’m excited because obviously it’s FF. But it already looks to have a different tone  and vibe then the last couple of FF games. The dialogue in the trailer was not too cringy and like XIV. Heavensword had one of the best stories in the series. If they could hit that again that would be great. I also am up for a non nomura FF. I don’t care about the action combat. If it’s good it’s good, but that battle was lost years ago. It could easily be good, VIIR was.

I’m excited because new installments in series I like simply mean chances at new games I’ll like. I also don’t feel I am at all cynical when it comes to games.
Far from me trying to diminish your hype.
Personally i find the FFXIV art direction already repulsive, and this one looks like an even blander version of that, with empty generic areas, and bland characters/creatures.
Until we saw the logo, i was kind of hoping it was a sort of spin off of XIV, tbh.

If you compare these visuals with those of FFIX or even XII, the step down in creativity is steep, imo.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 16, 2020, 06:33:30 PM
Also the fact that it was a long trailer, with plenty of gameplay, and English voice acting is promising.

It also didn’t look fake.

I also think it will look better with a better quality video.

Fuck them for this, they should have shown some bullshit fmv fake shit from ff7 remake 2 instead :biden
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on September 16, 2020, 06:34:09 PM
https://blog.playstation.com/2020/09/16/playstation-5-launches-in-november-starting-at-399-for-ps5-digital-edition-and-499-for-ps5-with-ultra-hd-blu-ray-disc-drive/


Quote
PlayStation 5 Launch Day Games from SIE Worldwide Studios

    Astro’s Playroom (Japan Studio) – pre-installed on PS5
    Demon’s Souls (Bluepoint Games / Japan Studio) – US$69.99/¥7,900/€79.99 (RRP)
    Destruction All Stars (Lucid Games / XDEV) – US$69.99/¥7,900/€79.99 (RRP)
    Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales (Insomniac Games) – US$49.99/¥5,900/€59.99 (RRP)
    Marvel’s Spider-Man: Mile Morales Ultimate Edition (Insomniac Games) – US$69.99/¥7,900/€79.99 (RRP)
    Sackboy A Big Adventure (Sumo Digital / XDEV) – US$59.99/¥6,900/€69.99 (RRP)


Dem prices
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 16, 2020, 06:38:43 PM
You say bland, I say refreshingly clean and restrained.

And since I don’t find XIV’s art direction repulsive and instead probably some of the best stuff out there, I’ll take more of it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Beezy on September 16, 2020, 06:41:24 PM
So a reasonable console price this time around, but game prices are going up? Has MS announced Series X game prices yet?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 16, 2020, 06:43:21 PM
Demon Souls and Spider man as launch titles. It’s over for Xbox. Even if they had Halo it would be over.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 16, 2020, 06:49:09 PM
https://blog.playstation.com/2020/09/16/playstation-5-launches-in-november-starting-at-399-for-ps5-digital-edition-and-499-for-ps5-with-ultra-hd-blu-ray-disc-drive/


Quote
PlayStation 5 Launch Day Games from SIE Worldwide Studios

    Astro’s Playroom (Japan Studio) – pre-installed on PS5
    Demon’s Souls (Bluepoint Games / Japan Studio) – US$69.99/¥7,900/€79.99 (RRP)
    Destruction All Stars (Lucid Games / XDEV) – US$69.99/¥7,900/€79.99 (RRP)
    Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales (Insomniac Games) – US$49.99/¥5,900/€59.99 (RRP)
    Marvel’s Spider-Man: Mile Morales Ultimate Edition (Insomniac Games) – US$69.99/¥7,900/€79.99 (RRP)
    Sackboy A Big Adventure (Sumo Digital / XDEV) – US$59.99/¥6,900/€69.99 (RRP)


Dem prices

lul I'll buy a PS5 in 2-3 years when prices on games are more reasonable and you can get it in black
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 16, 2020, 07:08:02 PM
Got a pre-order in under Walmart USA after 20 mins of trying or something


...then they cancelled it one minute later  :'(
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 16, 2020, 07:09:16 PM
Got a pre-order in under Walmart USA after 20 mins of trying or something


...then they cancelled it one minute later  :'(

its a sign
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: remy on September 16, 2020, 07:13:55 PM
The 6 month moneyhatting of FF really pisses me off.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on September 16, 2020, 07:26:53 PM
So a reasonable console price this time around, but game prices are going up? Has MS announced Series X game prices yet?
I've seen the Xbox Series X Edition of Call of Duty Black Ops listed for 84,99 Euro  :killme
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: mormapope on September 16, 2020, 07:30:26 PM
We're in the timeline where Nintendo games cost less than Microsoft's and Sony's, but retain their value for much longer/immeasurably.  :doge :-*

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 16, 2020, 07:34:45 PM
Rahx is such a joke :rofl


How because I don’t hate everything like you people do? Because I think a game you’ve never played could be good? That I think PlayStation is good because it continues to offer things while Xbox just does nothing for me? That I find posters likes snorenado annoying because I get attacked for not falling in line with their cynicism on everything?

You are all so predictable during these showings that I wonder how most of you even enjoy life, let alone video games.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Himu on September 16, 2020, 07:45:50 PM
I liked the chocobos in the FFXVI trailer.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 16, 2020, 07:53:34 PM
Welp, Walmart got declined because of fraud attempt, then got in and then got cancelled.

Target got declined because of fraud attempt, then tried again and sold out.

Been refreshing every 5-10 seconds for an hour+ now. Guess Best Buy is up next. Ideally would prefer Amazon but have a feeling they're going up last.

If I don't get a PS5 at launch I'll see y'all on PS5 talk next summer.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on September 16, 2020, 08:01:45 PM
dumb
no1curr

Both of you stop.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nuitangg on September 16, 2020, 08:04:56 PM
Is the Black Ops alpha one day only?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 16, 2020, 08:06:12 PM
I’ll just post about how everything sucks so I can be accepted by the bore cool kids.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on September 16, 2020, 08:07:24 PM
Is the Black Ops alpha one day only?

All weekend!
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: kingv on September 16, 2020, 08:21:53 PM
Wait they’re already up for preorder? That was quick.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 16, 2020, 08:21:57 PM
Aaaand Best Buy has crashed and no one can check out but everyone in the past 10 mins has it in their cart.

Last hope will be Amazon US at some point...
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 16, 2020, 08:23:40 PM
Bebs, baby, there's not shit on it at launch. Whocurr?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: mormapope on September 16, 2020, 08:25:21 PM
Aaaand Best Buy has crashed and no one can check out but everyone in the past 10 mins has it in their cart.

Last hope will be Amazon US at some point...

Use this site

https://www.stockinformer.com/checker-ps5-console-playstation-5

Set up notifications to your phone,. I used this site to get three Switches this summer. Which I had to add to cart and checkout quick before they'd sell out.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 16, 2020, 08:27:48 PM
Bebs, baby, there's not shit on it at launch. Whocurr?

There are actually games I want to play for my weird tastes. Ditto for first 6 months.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 16, 2020, 08:29:08 PM
Gamestop is up but dead too.

Amazon gonna be last option in the US for sure.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 16, 2020, 08:34:37 PM
Can I just go to GameStop and pay now?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 16, 2020, 08:35:49 PM
I mean that seems like the best way if you can find one that hasn't sold out.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on September 16, 2020, 08:37:16 PM
Can I just go to GameStop and pay now?

Sure, but might want to ask how many they're getting- have read some people got them pre-ordered there and were told there were only a few available.  One guy got two and was told they only had five available.

Also with Gamestop doing poorly and closing more stores, you might be S.O.L. later on.  Good luck getting your money back from a closed location.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 16, 2020, 08:37:34 PM
But will the GameStop still be open by then.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on September 16, 2020, 08:39:09 PM
Still not seeing what there is at launch to rush out and get one day one, but to each their own.

But will the GameStop still be open by then.

 ??? They're open right now, no?

Edit- I get you.  I guess call first?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: mormapope on September 16, 2020, 08:39:20 PM
Can I just go to GameStop and pay now?

It'd be based on expected inventory that's allocated to GameStop/each store. If the availability is sold out online, I imagine you cant reserve inventory that hasn't been allocated yet. If PS5's on hand = 0, there's nothing to pre-order.

I'm guessing here tho.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Lonewulfeus on September 16, 2020, 08:40:05 PM
The 6 month moneyhatting of FF really pisses me off.

Is it confirmed 6 months?  Better than the year for ff7r.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on September 16, 2020, 08:40:17 PM
I wouldn't trust Gamestop for anything like this.  Maybe ordering directly from their site, but definitely not in-store.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 16, 2020, 08:43:32 PM
I’d prefer to get it from Best Buy. If I don’t no biggie. I could be moving in November anyway.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 16, 2020, 08:47:04 PM
Gamestop online went up and was sold out by the time I hit place order welp
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 16, 2020, 09:01:08 PM
Ok, apparently I bought some bundle for $828 from Gamestop and I have no idea what's in it but it looks like it went through.

Can you cancel from gamestop.com in case I can get Amazon system only?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on September 16, 2020, 09:06:39 PM
Ok, apparently I bought some bundle for $828 from Gamestop and I have no idea what's in it

:mindblown
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 16, 2020, 09:08:48 PM
I mean I was ready to drop $1,000 with scalpers as a severe backup if I had to. It is what it is.

I've spent the last 3 hours trying every avenue possible to get one. I don't think I've ever missed a day 1 system launch outside Xbox One which I never got since like NES?

You could die of a brain clot next year, enjoy new game stuff.


Still, I'd like to know what I just bought lol Page is down and can't figure out what's in the bundle.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on September 16, 2020, 09:09:29 PM
What is it that you want to play so badly that you'd even get scammed for one of these?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on September 16, 2020, 09:09:46 PM
 :crazy  :neo
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 16, 2020, 09:11:48 PM
What is it that you want to play so badly that you'd even get scammed for one of these?

I dunno, why did I pay $1,000 for Valve Index? It's just gaming. There's stuff I'd like to play (Miles, Demon Souls, Astrobot, Sackboy, Ratchet & Clank in Spring, GT7 in Spring, etc...)

PS3 cost me around $1,000 at launch importing one from Japan at like $700-$800+shipping with some launch games. I used to have two of every console at launch for USA/JP versions to play USA & JP games. At least now they're region free so only need one.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on September 16, 2020, 09:14:47 PM
I mean I was ready to drop $1,000 with scalpers as a severe backup if I had to. It is what it is.

I've spent the last 3 hours trying every avenue possible to get one. I don't think I've ever missed a day 1 system launch outside Xbox One which I never got since like NES?

You could die of a brain clot next year, enjoy new game stuff.


Still, I'd like to know what I just bought lol Page is down and can't figure out what's in the bundle.
(https://i.imgur.com/WGzICCs.jpg)
spoiler (click to show/hide)
But really tho it's more that launch line ups are poor.
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Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 16, 2020, 09:18:33 PM
The gamestop bundle has no description yet lol, only a photo showing 2 controls, 12 months PS+, Miles Morales & Destruction Allstars and it's $250 over the console price.

Guessing:
$70 extra controller
$70 PS+ year
$50 Miles
$60 Destruction thing
=$250 exact

Was gonna buy an extra controller anyhow and Miles for $50 and I keep missing any deals for PS+ and been paying full price, so really just getting a $60 game I have no interest in.

...assuming this even went through. Haven't received a confirmation email yet and when I look up order # on the site it says it doesn't exists lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: mormapope on September 16, 2020, 09:20:34 PM
How the fuck are they not gonna bundle Demon Souls in  :doge :brain
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 16, 2020, 09:22:45 PM
Bundles always have been a bunch of the worst shit you don't want because they know you'll pay $$ and buy the good stuff you do want. Hell I'm surprised this comes with Miles.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on September 16, 2020, 09:25:47 PM
50$ for DLC, i need to lie down.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 16, 2020, 09:31:11 PM
Anyhow I'm getting a feeling my order didn't even go through, so I'm probably still fucked. There's no pending charge on my CC and no confirmation email and looking up the order # shows nothing!

May still need to fork a grand to some scalper -_-;
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 16, 2020, 09:31:27 PM
50$ for DLC, i need to lie down.

Is that better or worse than Persona 5 Royal
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Akala on September 16, 2020, 09:35:36 PM
GL on amazon tomorrow although BB still seems like it may go through eventually? seems the thirst is real.

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 16, 2020, 09:37:20 PM
Walmart lasted the long which gives hope for Amazon getting a decent amount. Walmart lasted about 10 minutes, Target maybe 5-8 mins. I think Amazon can handle not crashing and the amount of orders. So as long as you're there within a few minutes of it going up I think you should get through.

My best for Amazon is a midnight thing, either Midnight EST so 9pm or Midnight PST. I'd be really surprised if they hadn't gone up by 9-10am tomorrow.

I'll keep checking through midnight or so. But not gonna pull an allnight for this.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on September 16, 2020, 10:24:09 PM
50$ for DLC, i need to lie down.

Is that better or worse than Persona 5 Royal
That comes with extra waifus, tho.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(never played a Persona, so i don't think i'd spend 1$ on that).
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Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 16, 2020, 10:26:24 PM
fyi game pre-order pages going up at Amazon now. Console might be going up soon.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on September 16, 2020, 10:34:39 PM
Quote
PlayStation 5 is backward compatible with “99 percent” of the PlayStation 4 library, Sony Interactive Entertainment president and CEO Jim Ryan told Washington Post.

PlayStation Plus subscribers will be able to utilize backward compatibility on day one of the console’s launch via the PlayStation Plus Collection, which includes access to 18 of PlayStation 4’s most critically-acclaimed titles.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 16, 2020, 10:37:08 PM
Yeah, it's always seemed pretty obvious the BC was 100% they just haven't tested every last game 100% QA'd so they can't say it's 100%.

I'm definitely interested on which games will get upgrade patches. I was going to pick up and play Ghost of Tsushima, but if it gets upgraded on PS5 might as well a few months.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 16, 2020, 11:03:31 PM
I had my card info in and everything with one more prompt to place order, but it kept looping on BB... It times me out eventually and now says coming soon.   :(  Trying to get a digi edition..
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on September 16, 2020, 11:23:08 PM
Yeah, it's always seemed pretty obvious the BC was 100% they just haven't tested every last game 100% QA'd so they can't say it's 100%.

??? No it hasn't, considering Sony's track record of BC has been dogshit these past few consoles

The same Jim Ryan who said "who the fuck wants to play this old shit"
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on September 16, 2020, 11:23:55 PM
The console comes out in less than 2 months, and we don't even know how it enhances BC games. :fbm
Hopefully in October.

I don't expect BloodBorne at 60fps anyway, that dream is dead.  :-\
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 16, 2020, 11:30:09 PM
The console comes out in less than 2 months, and we don't even know how it enhances BC games. :fbm
Hopefully in October.

I don't expect BloodBorne at 60fps anyway, that dream is dead.  :-\

Actually we do know this one. Though there's a shit ton of stuff we don't know about the system in general.

When you play a PS4 game you get three options (potentially 4)

Compatibility mode PS4 - Plays the game exactly 1:1 the same as playing on the PS4
Compatibility mode PS4 Pro - Plays the game exactly 1:1 the same as playing on the PS4 pro
Boost Mode - lol, let the emulator fly, maybe some games will load faster, have better framerates (if they were unlocked to begin with), might break some games. Aka Boost Mode on PS2/PS3/Pro.

4th option is upgrade patch. This will be game specific if a developer wants to put the effort in to basically remaster the game at higher settings (4k/60fps/120fps/etc...) for PS5. I have a feeling there's not going to be many of these and they might not come all too quick. I'm hoping Ghost of Tsushima gets one of these, same with Last of Us II, and I expect they both will but it might be like 3-12 months later.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 16, 2020, 11:33:22 PM
Yeah, it's always seemed pretty obvious the BC was 100% they just haven't tested every last game 100% QA'd so they can't say it's 100%.

??? No it hasn't, considering Sony's track record of BC has been dogshit these past few consoles

The same Jim Ryan who said "who the fuck wants to play this old shit"

They made PS4 a PC instead of unique hardware so they could have BC going forward just like how modern PCs can run most older PC games.

All the messaging to date for PS5 seemed like "Well the big games will work because we took the time and QA to test them and make sure they work, but we're not paying people to test tits&ass indie fighter #3 so we can't say if everything works BC". But now it seems like they've tested enough stuff they can throw out the 99% number.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 16, 2020, 11:46:48 PM
UP ON AMAZON

https://twitter.com/DisFunko/status/1306437172518551552?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet


Got mine! No bundle for me!
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: thisismyusername on September 16, 2020, 11:47:43 PM
I seriously can not believe Justin Bebpo would pay $1,000 for a Failstation 5 (and you KNOW it'll fail, these fucking consoles have a reliability rate of a dodo at this point).

Wait a year, dude, see how the failure rate goes. GT7 is not that fucking impressive and you can just get Project Cars 2-3 or Forza 5-8 on PC/current gen consoles if you're THAT antsy to play a pretty car game.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 16, 2020, 11:56:09 PM
I guess this is a good enough time to mention that while I enjoy your post riffing, I still have no idea why you call me Justin  :samoa
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 17, 2020, 12:05:32 AM
(https://s1.gifyu.com/images/outputcead9384be345354.gif)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on September 17, 2020, 12:16:52 AM
The console comes out in less than 2 months, and we don't even know how it enhances BC games. :fbm
Hopefully in October.

I don't expect BloodBorne at 60fps anyway, that dream is dead.  :-\

Actually we do know this one. Though there's a shit ton of stuff we don't know about the system in general.

When you play a PS4 game you get three options (potentially 4)

Compatibility mode PS4 - Plays the game exactly 1:1 the same as playing on the PS4
Compatibility mode PS4 Pro - Plays the game exactly 1:1 the same as playing on the PS4 pro
Boost Mode - lol, let the emulator fly, maybe some games will load faster, have better framerates (if they were unlocked to begin with), might break some games. Aka Boost Mode on PS2/PS3/Pro.

4th option is upgrade patch. This will be game specific if a developer wants to put the effort in to basically remaster the game at higher settings (4k/60fps/120fps/etc...) for PS5. I have a feeling there's not going to be many of these and they might not come all too quick. I'm hoping Ghost of Tsushima gets one of these, same with Last of Us II, and I expect they both will but it might be like 3-12 months later.
I hope all of the games in that PS+ collection get that patch.
At the very least i would like rendering resolution improvements (like on an emulator). :thinking
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on September 17, 2020, 12:23:30 AM
i'll take the game working properly. idk why devs would put work into improving a game for a new system with no incentive. seems crazy. bumping up res and patching performance then testing those changes would require people to work for free. that's what fan community pc stuff is for /shrug
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on September 17, 2020, 12:29:59 AM
i'll take the game working properly. idk why devs would put work into improving a game for a new system with no incentive. seems crazy. bumping up res and patching performance then testing those changes would require people to work for free. that's what fan community pc stuff is for /shrug
You can keep selling the game on PS5 though, and that'd be an incentive.
Why remaster Taxi Driver in 4K otherwise?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 17, 2020, 12:38:54 AM
Yeah "4k Remaster" are going to be the release filler for this gen.

And honestly I know people like BC, but I also do like re-releases. Gives chances to really improve the game beyond simply what I can do on my PC. Also puts the game back in the spotlight which I think is great. Doubt a friend of mine would have played ZoE2 if he had to track down a PS2 disc.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on September 17, 2020, 12:41:58 AM
wait, bvut we're talking about allowing people to jam their old discs in the console/use their already purchased digital ps4 titles. yes, a remaster is a whole different thing.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on September 17, 2020, 12:42:48 AM
maybe we'll see some business model like "pay $20 for graphix update" or something.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 17, 2020, 12:48:25 AM
Oh, well another reason BC on console dosen't do much for me is there's a limit to what can be improved.

Like yeah maybe PS5 can boost say Gravity Rush 2 to the best picture quality possible, but I doubt it can make it run at 60fps.

I guess it's a good thing lots of games towards the end of this gen had unlocked fps.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on September 17, 2020, 12:54:52 AM
depends how much overhead there is in the software behind the bc i guess. but generally, the hardware is a significant bump and should be ok rendering ps4 games at their native res with twice the frames. i imagine it's all down to how games were implemented and how their bc tech works. any pc game you'd comfortably expect to double your framerate if you improved your hardware to the extent ps5 has changed over ps4 if you don't improve IQ in other places.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 17, 2020, 01:34:48 AM
Oh, well another reason BC on console dosen't do much for me is there's a limit to what can be improved.

Like yeah maybe PS5 can boost say Gravity Rush 2 to the best picture quality possible, but I doubt it can make it run at 60fps.

I guess it's a good thing lots of games towards the end of this gen had unlocked fps.

Yeah looked it up and Gravity Rush 2 was locked 30fps (though had dips) at 4k resolution. Best you could hope for in boost mode is just getting rid of any dips. If they locked it to 30fps it's not going to run at 60fps.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on September 17, 2020, 01:57:00 AM
If i play a 5 years old game on a new GPU, i can blast it in 4K, no reason why they can't push for that on consoles with (minimal) work, like Xbox one X BC does anyway, you can play Xbox 360 or even OG Xbox games in 4K.
Why would Sony do this on some of their top shelf products for free? Because it's good publicity, it reinforces those brands, it reinforces their brand in general, and it pushes new people to try out those games in the first place.
Sony is putting 90% of their eggs in their "exclusives" basket, so nurturing those exclusives through time, is entirely within that strategy.

Really, pushing BB to run in 4K on PS5 with a patch can't take all that much work.  :yeshrug
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 17, 2020, 02:06:38 AM
I'm sure it wouldn't be as work intensive to do that, but I also pretty much believe MS did it because they did'nt really have much going on and the did need the good publicity.  But in the end I also wonder if it translated into anything for them. While it can obviously be done, MS also has a dedicated team to it and there's limitations to what they can do and how much they can output. But also in the end I also ask is that preferable?

Yeah I think Gears 3 on the Xbox One X looks great. But it also still runs at 30fps and the assets and general art are still limited by what they could do at the time. A for profit remaster could go further. It could also do less, so there's no guarantee. Also not everything is going to get the kind of work say Modern Warfare 1 and 2 got where it's prett much a new coat put over the game.

I'd love BB to run at 4k. But I'd also like it ro run at a higher frame rate.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on September 17, 2020, 02:19:25 AM
Bluepoint :lawd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf4wmN0u8S8
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: brawndolicious on September 17, 2020, 02:42:05 AM
The good news is that you can play your PS4 games on PS5. But apparently, the bad news is that you can play your PS5 games on PS4?

Also I thought it was bad when Sony announced they're charging $70 USD for games. But they just slapped Euroland with the ultimate disrespect by saying that translates to 80 feckin' euros. :dead

If i play a 5 years old game on a new GPU, i can blast it in 4K, no reason why they can't push for that on consoles with (minimal) work, like Xbox one X BC does anyway, you can play Xbox 360 or even OG Xbox games in 4K.
Why would Sony do this on some of their top shelf products for free? Because it's good publicity, it reinforces those brands, it reinforces their brand in general, and it pushes new people to try out those games in the first place.
Sony is putting 90% of their eggs in their "exclusives" basket, so nurturing those exclusives through time, is entirely within that strategy.

Really, pushing BB to run in 4K on PS5 with a patch can't take all that much work.  :yeshrug

MS has had a really good emulation team for like over a decade. I mean, any big company could make an emulator (there's even an open source PS3 emulator for PC) but setting up the system to increase performance/fidelity/HDR in a way that doesn't break the game and actually validating each game takes time and resources. I think Sony is just too much of a traditional hardware company to try selling consumers on software features.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 17, 2020, 02:49:48 AM
Imagine buying a digital only PS5 and being forced to pay 80 euro on psn for games.

Only more reason to stick with team Xbox and gamepass.

I expected Sony to unveil a sub service at least.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 17, 2020, 03:36:01 AM
At least Sony games, even digitally, bomb pretty quick and you can pick them up for $20-$30 in no time unlike Nintendo 1st party.

But yeah, with Game Pass xbox is obviously the way better deal if you're looking at 3rd party stuff and don't have a top of the line gaming PC.

I recommend Series S + Game Pass to all my casual gaming friends for next gen and PS5 for the weaboos.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on September 17, 2020, 05:23:45 AM
I recommend to wait for a price drop and more next gen exclusives if you aren't a hardcore Snoyboy or Xbot unless you are short of a device that plays Cyberpunk 2077 or you've got money to burn.
In that case get a PlayStation 5 Thicc or an RTX 3070/3080 as it will probably last you 4 - 5 years minimum.

The most interesting exclusive launch game on any platform is Demon's Souls, which looks very good but is still just a remaster. Along with Spider-Man if you haven't yet played it.

If you're still unsure what to buy at this point, you've probably already lost your shot at getting anything on day 1 anyway.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 17, 2020, 05:53:37 AM
Not a fan of all the specific redesigns, I think in general it looks great but it doesn't feel ... lonely and sad like DS should

(https://i.ibb.co/mNtFpKb/Demon-s-Souls-Remake-PS5-VS-PS3-Gameplay-Reveal-Comparison-You-Tube-Opera-16-09-2020-23-31-19.jpg)

It looks.. generic.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 17, 2020, 06:32:53 AM
I still have no idea why you call me Justin  :samoa

Bebpo, Bebpo, Bebpo oooohhhhhh

:corona_rodney
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 17, 2020, 08:05:02 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Syl1QRue2QE

 :hulk :mouf
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 17, 2020, 08:17:41 AM
PS5 Nov. 12, then a week later, Cyberpunk....  :rejoice 

that is, If I can manage to snag one..  stayed up half the night refreshing everything that I could to pre-order.  No luck at all.  :(
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 17, 2020, 08:47:22 AM
https://twitter.com/feliciavagabond/status/1306390739434299392
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 17, 2020, 09:12:35 AM
PS5 Nov. 12, then a week later, Cyberpunk....  :rejoice 

that is, If I can manage to snag one..  stayed up half the night refreshing everything that I could to pre-order.  No luck at all.  :(

Yeah that next gen patch is a ways away though.
Yeah, I figure as much.. but surely there'll be some benefit playing it on PS5 vs. base PS4.  I'll take faster load times, if anything.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on September 17, 2020, 09:15:55 AM
PS5 Nov. 12, then a week later, Cyberpunk....  :rejoice 

that is, If I can manage to snag one..  stayed up half the night refreshing everything that I could to pre-order.  No luck at all.  :(

Yeah that next gen patch is a ways away though.
Yeah, I figure as much.. but surely there'll be some benefit playing it on PS5 vs. base PS4.  I'll take faster load times, if anything.

Or you could just get it on your PC, where it will likely still look/run better compared to the PS4 version.  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 17, 2020, 09:30:36 AM
PS5 Nov. 12, then a week later, Cyberpunk....  :rejoice 

that is, If I can manage to snag one..  stayed up half the night refreshing everything that I could to pre-order.  No luck at all.  :(

Yeah that next gen patch is a ways away though.
Yeah, I figure as much.. but surely there'll be some benefit playing it on PS5 vs. base PS4.  I'll take faster load times, if anything.

Or you could just get it on your PC, where it will likely still look/run better compared to the PS4 version.  :doge
Honestly, I may double dip, because I'm torn on which character/origin to start as, so I may have 2 games going.  :D
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on September 17, 2020, 11:34:45 AM
There's one store not opening orders until 24 hours before launch, all the other online stores in the Netherlands have sold their pre-order allocation.

Some increased the price to 549 and 599 for the final few units.
Sony might make some more stock available but this launch is going to be big.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on September 17, 2020, 11:36:56 AM
https://www.dualshockers.com/ps5-forward-compatible-ps4/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Not sure why they couldn't clarify that before.  ::)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Kestastrophe on September 17, 2020, 11:38:50 AM
Anyone have luck preordering in store?

Also, has sony mentioned if theyre going to support vita remote play?  :teehee
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on September 17, 2020, 11:43:03 AM
https://www.dualshockers.com/ps5-forward-compatible-ps4/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Not sure why they couldn't clarify that before.  ::)
Probably a pretty late addition to the software that they were unsure would be ready for launch?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on September 17, 2020, 12:45:36 PM
Not a fan of all the specific redesigns, I think in general it looks great but it doesn't feel ... lonely and sad like DS should

(https://i.ibb.co/mNtFpKb/Demon-s-Souls-Remake-PS5-VS-PS3-Gameplay-Reveal-Comparison-You-Tube-Opera-16-09-2020-23-31-19.jpg)

It looks.. generic.

Some of the environments look bleak enough (still too much fauna), but some of these boss comparisons and others keep myself debating whether to get LTTP on the original instead. :goty
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Akala on September 17, 2020, 01:35:08 PM
was grabbing spider man and best buy was showing systems available a minute ago.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on September 17, 2020, 01:41:49 PM
Not a fan of all the specific redesigns, I think in general it looks great but it doesn't feel ... lonely and sad like DS should

(https://i.ibb.co/mNtFpKb/Demon-s-Souls-Remake-PS5-VS-PS3-Gameplay-Reveal-Comparison-You-Tube-Opera-16-09-2020-23-31-19.jpg)

It looks.. generic.

Some of the environments look bleak enough (still too much fauna), but some of these boss comparisons and others keep myself debating whether to get LTTP on the original instead. :goty

On the other hand :thinking

(https://sm.ign.com/ign_br/screenshot/default/armored-spider-ob_2wn4.jpg)
(https://sm.ign.com/ign_br/screenshot/default/shrine-of-storms_e88a.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiE0fBiWsAIyk8q?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)

The technical strength alone might be convincing enough.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on September 17, 2020, 01:49:59 PM
I got a preorder invite directly from Sony via e-mail but not sure how solid that actually is. For all I know that shit will stay open all of 10 minutes

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 17, 2020, 02:01:50 PM
I got a preorder invite directly from Sony via e-mail but not sure how solid that actually is. For all I know that shit will stay open all of 10 minutes

I thought when they announced the raffle thing for this they said they would hold your pre-order spot for like 24-48 hours if you were selected.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 17, 2020, 02:28:24 PM
I got a preorder invite directly from Sony via e-mail but not sure how solid that actually is. For all I know that shit will stay open all of 10 minutes

I thought when they announced the raffle thing for this they said they would hold your pre-order spot for like 24-48 hours if you were selected.
I hope so. I got one this morning too. I've had no luck otherwise.  I just want to snag a digi edition. 

I wonder what the story is on that PSVR/camera adapter... Kinda need to know about that, Sony.  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on September 17, 2020, 02:56:09 PM
Demon Souls looks great, not sure why people whining about it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 17, 2020, 03:07:00 PM
Demon Souls looks great, not sure why people whining about it.
Never played a Souls game

:crazy
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 17, 2020, 03:07:28 PM
Demon Souls looks great, not sure why people whining about it.

Jesus christ is any form of criticism instantly whining now?

I'm not even being a purist or anything, I just think some enviroments look a little too fancy, when the original game is very drab and bleak (and intentionally so)

stfu bitch  :yuck
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on September 17, 2020, 03:08:34 PM
Funnel more energy into making montages instead
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 17, 2020, 03:09:20 PM
Funnel more energy into making montages instead

Im just being honest it's stupid af to label any form of criticism as "whining" and really doesn't add anything to the conversation at hand.

Technically it looks marvelous.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 17, 2020, 03:15:03 PM
You know I got love for you demi but sometimes

(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/InfantileDisloyalBordercollie-size_restricted.gif)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on September 17, 2020, 03:20:47 PM
Not sure why you thought I was directly talking about you, but if the shoe fits

It's fine if you don't care for the trailer
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 17, 2020, 03:21:34 PM
Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Demi Real Hahahaha nicca Just Walk Away From The Screen Like nicca Close Your Eyes Haha
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 17, 2020, 03:25:30 PM
Btw still a big fucking LOL that the PS5 costs less then the PS3 14 years later without inflation adjustment :lol :lol

Accounting for inflation the PS3 would have cost 800 dollars today  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 17, 2020, 03:33:00 PM
Not sure why you thought I was directly talking about you, but if the shoe fits

It's fine if you don't care for the trailer

Well I personally think everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I did care for the trailer, it's like the only PS5 game I'm interested in.

Just think the artsyle isnt all that
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 17, 2020, 03:50:25 PM
You really think it was drab and kinda empty on purpose and not because.. it was a PS3 game?  lol

I mean yeah especially since if you compare it to Dark Souls it's entirely different. But maybe I shouldnt argue the game's feeling and artstyle with someone who hasn't played a single one of these games? :P
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 17, 2020, 04:47:44 PM
I do like how the cheaper version is actually the suckers edition :success
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on September 17, 2020, 04:49:15 PM
Not a fan of all the specific redesigns, I think in general it looks great but it doesn't feel ... lonely and sad like DS should

(https://i.ibb.co/mNtFpKb/Demon-s-Souls-Remake-PS5-VS-PS3-Gameplay-Reveal-Comparison-You-Tube-Opera-16-09-2020-23-31-19.jpg)

It looks.. generic.

Some of the environments look bleak enough (still too much fauna), but some of these boss comparisons and others keep myself debating whether to get LTTP on the original instead. :goty
As someone who completed the original several times, i think the remake looks better in just about every single way.
No doubt you should play that, unless they fucked with the gameplay in some way we still don't know about (but even then, Demon's gameplay was very rough around the edges, as a Souls game).
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 17, 2020, 05:55:40 PM
Yesterday I was trying to look up info on launch games and I was looking into this Destruction Allstars game that looks dumb. Apparently the developers are ex-Bizarre Creations?

So it could actually be a good racer... hmmmm. Will keep an eye on it. I even liked Blur. Bizarre could do no racing wrong with me.

Though if it's all just arena based that's lame. At least make it like Twisted Metal with cool cityscapes to drive around and battle in.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 17, 2020, 06:00:03 PM
https://www.siliconera.com/jim-ryan-ps5-no-backwards-compatibility-with-ps3-and-older-games/ (https://www.siliconera.com/jim-ryan-ps5-no-backwards-compatibility-with-ps3-and-older-games/)

Confirmed I guess?
It would have been nice, but a PC is gonna do more for that era of games anyway.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 17, 2020, 06:24:36 PM
https://www.siliconera.com/jim-ryan-ps5-no-backwards-compatibility-with-ps3-and-older-games/ (https://www.siliconera.com/jim-ryan-ps5-no-backwards-compatibility-with-ps3-and-older-games/)

Confirmed I guess?
It would have been nice, but a PC is gonna do more for that era of games anyway.

Also I didn't fuck with it but I heard on PS4 that PS2/PS3 BC is being handled by offering some of those titles on PS Now which apparently is a decent service? I've never tried it and not too interested in it, but that seems to be the retro gaming solution they'll have for PS5 as well. Though they really need to just merge it into PS+ so you get all the PS Now library by being subbed to PS+
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 17, 2020, 06:25:00 PM
Yeah I’m not gonna be fast enough to get this.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: brawndolicious on September 17, 2020, 07:52:57 PM
https://www.siliconera.com/jim-ryan-ps5-no-backwards-compatibility-with-ps3-and-older-games/ (https://www.siliconera.com/jim-ryan-ps5-no-backwards-compatibility-with-ps3-and-older-games/)

Confirmed I guess?
It would have been nice, but a PC is gonna do more for that era of games anyway.

Also I didn't fuck with it but I heard on PS4 that PS2/PS3 BC is being handled by offering some of those titles on PS Now which apparently is a decent service? I've never tried it and not too interested in it, but that seems to be the retro gaming solution they'll have for PS5 as well. Though they really need to just merge it into PS+ so you get all the PS Now library by being subbed to PS+

PS Now is like twice the price of PS+ so I don't think they'll just straight up combine it. Maybe they would give access to the PS1/2/3 generations through a PS+ sub but the other small issues are image quality/lag with game streaming (especially on a TV) and the servers will have a limited capacity so they'll probably need a queue system.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on September 17, 2020, 07:59:20 PM
For the Dutchies, on the morning of the 18th Intertoys will open up their pre-orders.

Nedgame already takes orders for a second shipment early 2021.
Intertoys is probably your best bet for securing it before launch.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on September 17, 2020, 08:18:53 PM
I got a preorder invite directly from Sony via e-mail but not sure how solid that actually is. For all I know that shit will stay open all of 10 minutes

I thought when they announced the raffle thing for this they said they would hold your pre-order spot for like 24-48 hours if you were selected.
24 hours, yeah, but with the giant asterisk of *WHILE SUPPLIES LAST

You'd imagine sending out select codes to reserve a preorder would guarantee said person a console if they wanted within the 24 hour period but Sony's been making some dumbfuck decisions lately so idk.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nuitangg on September 17, 2020, 08:48:46 PM
Preorders should be back up in 15 minutes at Walmart  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 17, 2020, 09:03:16 PM
Walmart site said preorders start at 9pm. Sold out in less than a minute. Still couldn't grab one. Fuuuuuuu
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nuitangg on September 17, 2020, 09:05:53 PM
Keep refreshing I was able to order one even though it was saying out of stock
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: who is ted danson? on September 18, 2020, 10:55:48 AM
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-09-16-demons-souls-and-spider-man-miles-morales-will-be-ps5-launch-games

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Astro's Playroom (Japan Studio) - pre-installed on PS5
Demon's Souls (Bluepoint Games / Japan Studio) - £69.99 (RRP)
Destruction AllStars (Lucid Games / XDEV) - £69.99 (RRP)
Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales (Insomniac Games) - £51.99 (RRP)
Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales Ultimate Edition (Insomniac Games) - £69.99 (RRP)
Sackboy A Big Adventure (Sumo Digital / XDEV) - £59.99 (RRP)

dat next gen £70 RRP   :lol :lol :lol

PC all the way (again) LMAO
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 18, 2020, 02:19:07 PM
Finally got a digi edition through the pre-order invite.  :pimp Supposedly PS Plus members will have it delivered by day of launch too.   :playa
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 18, 2020, 03:29:13 PM
Finally got a digi edition through the pre-order invite.  :pimp Supposedly PS Plus members will have it delivered by day of launch too.   :playa
Yeah I signed up for this and nothing. Despite being a Playstation cheerleader, PS+ person for years, and having over like 200 PS4 games I never get these PSN deals or whatever.

Don't be a stan kids.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 18, 2020, 03:40:41 PM
:fbm
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 18, 2020, 03:45:44 PM
Finally got a digi edition through the pre-order invite.  :pimp Supposedly PS Plus members will have it delivered by day of launch too.   :playa
Yeah I signed up for this and nothing. Despite being a Playstation cheerleader, PS+ person for years, and having over like 200 PS4 games I never get these PSN deals or whatever.

Don't be a stan kids.
Yeah wtf.  :( It makes no sense how they do their shit.  I'll see REEEEjects posting about random $10-$15 PSN credit emails...  I never get those for some reason, despite being in the same boat as you; Been on PSN since launch PS3, Plus member 99% of the time and purchase all my games through their storefront.   Hopefully you'll be able to snag one sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 18, 2020, 03:49:05 PM
Observer redux coming out in the launch window. Good stuff.
One of many games that would benefit so much more in VR.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 18, 2020, 03:52:42 PM
I've never gotten a console at launch. Maybe a few months are so after, but never day one. So I think it would be cool to experince that. I also have the money for it now and it wouldn't hurt to purchase it at this moment. But if I don't get it when it comes out or soon after I don't think I will really miss much. Yeah Demon Souls looks great, but to be honest I've never liked much of the Souls games before BB. Spider-man would be cool and I'd probably wait till I could play it on PS5. But I mean Cyperpunk and co will also be out so there's still plenty of other things to play.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on September 18, 2020, 03:53:42 PM
Got the $499 version through Sony.

 :tocry
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 18, 2020, 04:15:31 PM
I've never gotten a console at launch. Maybe a few months are so after, but never day one. So I think it would be cool to experince that. I also have the money for it now and it wouldn't hurt to purchase it at this moment. But if I don't get it when it comes out or soon after I don't think I will really miss much. Yeah Demon Souls looks great, but to be honest I've never liked much of the Souls games before BB. Spider-man would be cool and I'd probably wait till I could play it on PS5. But I mean Cyperpunk and co will also be out so there's still plenty of other things to play.

Honestly, my favorite part of new systems from Japanese developers is that like 50% of the system is a mystery at launch. Because they never explain all the little settings and options and weird shit it can do. So going through a mysterious new box for a few days testing stuff out is a lot of fun and exciting.

Will be fun messing around with PS4 titles and boost mode and stuff and seeing what benefits and what doesn't for instance among what I'm sure will be many other things.

I quantify Japanese developed hardware because western hardware tends to be a lot better at communicating prior to launch detailed notes on everything whereas Japanese stuff is just like "GOOD LUCK. ENJOY!"
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 18, 2020, 05:06:21 PM
What I want to know is if with PS4 BC will I be able to plug in my external HDD I use currently. So that I don’t have to waste SSD space on PS4 games.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 18, 2020, 05:56:49 PM
What I want to know is if with PS4 BC will I be able to plug in my external HDD I use currently. So that I don’t have to waste SSD space on PS4 games.

Cerny said as much in the original Road to PS5 presentation.

I swear Cerny is the only one at Sony who talks about nerd stuff. Good on him for communicating this stuff.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on September 19, 2020, 12:14:48 AM
I've never gotten a console at launch.
Only console I decided to get on launch day was Xbox 360... you'll never guess what happened next!

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Went through 4 red ringed ones.  :stahp
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Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: DJ Bedroom on September 19, 2020, 12:56:00 AM
Sucked off a hobo to get a pre-order and I don't even know why
A remaster of a ps3 game?
An overpriced dlc to a qte fest?
A demolition derbyish game from the team that brought you NEED FOR SPEED PAYBACK?
At least now I can yuk it up with the insufferable sony fanbois
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on September 19, 2020, 01:36:15 AM
Maybe you just really wanted to suck that hobo dick.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on September 19, 2020, 01:59:21 PM
https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1307364082341740544 (https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1307364082341740544)

Thank you for all the media attention, we got some more playstations to sell don't worry  :success
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 19, 2020, 02:03:25 PM
Imagine you just sucked a hobo dick for nothing
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on September 19, 2020, 02:10:38 PM
Meanwhile, MS has already given up :goldberg

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiOEfEuWAAEfRsh?format=jpg&name=large)
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Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 19, 2020, 02:43:11 PM
Meanwhile, MS has already given up :goldberg

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiOEfEuWAAEfRsh?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiOEfEvXcAIjv3N?format=jpg&name=large)

Xbox be like..

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/f5acde4767dbf94182c93e06b3c2a945/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 19, 2020, 03:57:12 PM
Just noticed that the end of the trailer, Astro's in the PS2 main menu.  :aweshum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu5VXrEqgco
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on September 19, 2020, 06:18:46 PM
MS whole ballgame is to get people that buy the $500 PlayStation 5 to subscribe for 25 or 35 a month for an Xbox and GamePass.
But that only works if Sony plays ball and is a far cry from the 12TF most powerful console biggest year of Xbox ever strategy.

I'm getting the same vibe from a lot of long time Xbox fans who are upgrading their PC first with the RTX 3080 or are switching to PS5 because that's where their friends are.
Limited PS5 and RTX 3080 stock will probably help save the Xbox Series X launch.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: nudemacusers on September 19, 2020, 08:24:40 PM
thankfully all of my friends have good taste and would never buy a machine as ugly as the ps5.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Trent Dole on September 19, 2020, 09:18:07 PM
Nobody has major games for their launch, nobody is ready, but MS and Sony are both stubborn and releasing now in the middle of a pandemic cause 'it's time'.  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: mormapope on September 19, 2020, 09:39:04 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiQ2KyNXsAAIP3i?format=jpg&name=900x900)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiQ2K-tWoAANb2U?format=jpg&name=900x900)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiQ2LOsXcAE6xcF?format=jpg&name=900x900)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiQ1jRzXkAgK9zn?format=jpg&name=small)

(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DentalAromaticBergerpicard-size_restricted.gif)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 19, 2020, 10:06:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YDoowoYzOI
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: DJ Bedroom on September 19, 2020, 11:09:09 PM
 https://thehardtimes.net/harddrive/sony-announces-double-stuf-ps5/
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 19, 2020, 11:13:26 PM
It really just looks like they put some plastic sheets that a 5 year old cut over a grill PS3.

So ugly.


Don’t think the launch line up is bad though.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 19, 2020, 11:45:23 PM
Ugly or no, this shit is too big to sit in place where my ps4 is, so it'll be behind the TV where I won't see it anyway.  Problem solved.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on September 20, 2020, 12:15:23 AM
Honestly, it looks like Sony couldn't settle on a console design so they put a bunch of rejected prototypes in a hat and picked one at random.

still hyped tho.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 20, 2020, 05:01:46 AM
Sony is acting really pathetic
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on September 20, 2020, 05:55:18 AM
They wanted something so thicc that you couldn't even fit another console in your setup
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on September 20, 2020, 06:02:58 AM
Sony is acting really pathetic
Nah sony is just pissed that MS announces next gen too early, which cuts off the legs of the current machines and forces Sony to fast track their own plans. Then when launch day approaches MS has jack shit and goes "oopsie we love all gaming!" while previously mocking the competition.

Without Project Scarlett scheduled for holiday 2020 in the summer of 2019, Sony would've probably released PlayStation 5 in 2021. PS4 Pro still had some mileage left and UE5 isn't ready but MS forced everyone to pull the trigger.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: mormapope on September 20, 2020, 07:19:52 AM
Yes, Sony is pissed their console is ending up sold out globally.  :brain
 :brain  :brain
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 20, 2020, 07:28:30 AM
No, Sony just won last generation and now they think their shit doesn't stink.

Same shit always happens after a generational win, look at xbox 360 and how they acted with the launch of the Xbone.

That's why Sony is acting pathetic and Xbox is trying hard to win hearts and minds.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on September 20, 2020, 08:32:11 AM
Yes, Sony is pissed their console is ending up sold out globally.  :brain
 :brain  :brain
Look at the poll on TheBore.com (http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=47781.0), Sony's in BIG trouble.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on September 20, 2020, 08:39:33 AM
Nobody has major games for their launch, nobody is ready, but MS and Sony are both stubborn and releasing now in the middle of a pandemic cause 'it's time'.  :doge

The PS5 first year has a better lineup than like the entire first half of the PS4 life cycle and it is sold out.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on September 20, 2020, 10:25:01 AM
https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1307364082341740544
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Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rufus on September 20, 2020, 11:03:42 AM
I have decided that the high collar coat is just there to make it look smaller than it is. Fucking thing is massive.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Trent Dole on September 20, 2020, 04:38:26 PM
Nobody has major games for their launch, nobody is ready, but MS and Sony are both stubborn and releasing now in the middle of a pandemic cause 'it's time'.  :doge

The PS5 first year has a better lineup than like the entire first half of the PS4 life cycle and it is sold out.
Yeah that's great but I said 'launch' not 'year one'. What is there for the launch? :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 20, 2020, 05:43:29 PM
Nobody has major games for their launch, nobody is ready, but MS and Sony are both stubborn and releasing now in the middle of a pandemic cause 'it's time'.  :doge

The PS5 first year has a better lineup than like the entire first half of the PS4 life cycle and it is sold out.
Yeah that's great but I said 'launch' not 'year one'. What is there for the launch? :doge

Idk, the only things announced for first year so far that aren't launch are what? Ratchet, GT7, Horizon 2 and GoW2 (last one is probably not gonna make 2021). Vs. Demon Souls, Astrobot  and Spider-Man 1.5? Launch is pretty solid. It's no Dreamcast (a new Soul Calibur for launch would've been nice, or any fighter with nice graphics), and it's no PSP launch (needs Wipeout/Lumines equivalent) but I'd say it's somewhere in the top 5 launch lineups.

If it had a good arcade racer + good fighter + good puzzle game it'd be perfect.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on September 20, 2020, 06:14:49 PM
I'd say it's somewhere in the top 5 launch lineups.

 :cmonson

It has a port-up of a game from 2009 and a Spider-Man half-sequel, also releasing on PS4, as its big selling points.  Maybe Destruction All-Stars will be OK?  Nobody seems to care.  Is Astrobot even a "real " game is it or more of a tech demo?  And then the rest are games coming out on everything.  Doesn't scream "top five" to me IMO.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 20, 2020, 06:31:52 PM
Don't really understand a lot of the criticism. At the end of the day Sony just looks like it's continuing what has worked with the PS4. Strong first party single player games and small other niche games in between. I mean you can dumb it down, but Spider-man and Demon Souls are really strong titles to have right from the begining. What was the big Sony first party on PS4? Killzone? I'll take a "port-up" that looks amazing graphically over that. I'd also rather play a "half-sequel" to a pretty good game whose PS5 footage has looked great. At the end of the day you are either onboard with what Sony has been doing since the PS3's mid life or you aren't. There's really nothing else to be said here as this is the formula and niche Sony has really taken over. What does the competition have? Nothing? Oh Gamepass, so games I can already play. And if you're one of those people that has moved unto PC, why even care whats going on in the console space?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on September 20, 2020, 06:42:45 PM
I agree that the first party launch line-up is better than most recent generations.
Out of all systems released during the last decade I think only the Switch had a really great launch game with Zelda BOTW.

Xbox One had Forza and Ryse I think, which were both decent. PS4 had Killzone and Knack.

Ratchet will probably hit early next year, so you're looking at a decent 'launch window'.
Could've certainly been better (especially on the third party side, with nothing from Namco for example) but overall not that bad.

As for Top 5? Platform makers used to drop iconic games on day one. But not anymore.

Nintendo 64: Super Mario 64
SNES: Super Mario World / F-Zero
Dreamcast: Sonic Adventure / Soulcalibur
OG Xbox: HALO / PGR
Xbox 360: Kameo / PGR3 / COD2
Wii: Zelda Twilight Princess
GameCube: Luigi's Mansion / Rogue Leader

Not seeing where I could squeeze PS5 into the top 5. But compared to PS4 and PS3 it's quite a nice line-up.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on September 20, 2020, 06:56:22 PM
I'd say it's somewhere in the top 5 launch lineups.

 :cmonson

It has a port-up of a game from 2009 and a Spider-Man half-sequel, also releasing on PS4, as its big selling points.  Maybe Destruction All-Stars will be OK?  Nobody seems to care.  Is Astrobot even a "real " game is it or more of a tech demo?  And then the rest are games coming out on everything.  Doesn't scream "top five" to me IMO.

:gurl

In a time where fanboys want to cream themselves over jokes like Mario ROMs and "HD versions" of already HD-games, DeS with maybe the best console graphics we have seen rn is more than a port-up.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on September 20, 2020, 07:01:51 PM
I'd say it's somewhere in the top 5 launch lineups.

 :cmonson

It has a port-up of a game from 2009 and a Spider-Man half-sequel, also releasing on PS4, as its big selling points.  Maybe Destruction All-Stars will be OK?  Nobody seems to care.  Is Astrobot even a "real " game is it or more of a tech demo?  And then the rest are games coming out on everything.  Doesn't scream "top five" to me IMO.

:gurl

In a time where fanboys want to cream themselves over jokes like Mario ROMs and "HD versions" of already HD-games, DeS with maybe the best console graphics we have seen rn is more than a port-up.

Things have really gone downhill if a prettied-up version of an almost 11 year-old game makes for "one of the best console launches of all time." 

:idont

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on September 20, 2020, 07:10:04 PM
Don't really understand a lot of the criticism. At the end of the day Sony just looks like it's continuing what has worked with the PS4. Strong first party single player games and small other niche games in between. I mean you can dumb it down, but Spider-man and Demon Souls are really strong titles to have right from the begining. What was the big Sony first party on PS4? Killzone? I'll take a "port-up" that looks amazing graphically over that. I'd also rather play a "half-sequel" to a pretty good game whose PS5 footage has looked great. At the end of the day you are either onboard with what Sony has been doing since the PS3's mid life or you aren't. There's really nothing else to be said here as this is the formula and niche Sony has really taken over. What does the competition have? Nothing? Oh Gamepass, so games I can already play.

Yes, the PS4 launch sucked- that's a mistake I don't want to repeat and why I'm not buying a PS5 right now.  I just don't see what it's launching with as "gotta buy awesome" is all.  Especially when Sony dropped the bombshell that some of their upcoming games, including Miles, are going to be on PS4 too.  Yeah, it's going to run and look better on PS5.  But it also means I don't need to fork out $400-$500+ for a new console and can wait to see how things turn out later on.

I think both new console launches are lackluster as hell and as aready discussed, it's probably due to 'rona.  Xbox doesn't have anything big, but damn is Gamepass a hell of a deal.  I think they have the better launch console because of that alone.

And if you're one of those people that has moved unto PC, why even care whats going on in the console space?

Because I like games and am down to play whatever looks interesting to me on whatever platforms they might come out on.  It's just that right now I don't think this is worth it, but am still interested in seeing what's up and what others think about it.  You know, discussion board stuff.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on September 20, 2020, 07:13:32 PM
I agree that the first party launch line-up is better than most recent generations.
Out of all systems released during the last decade I think only the Switch had a really great launch game with Zelda BOTW.

Xbox One had Forza and Ryse I think, which were both decent. PS4 had Killzone and Knack.

Ratchet will probably hit early next year, so you're looking at a decent 'launch window'.
Could've certainly been better (especially on the third party side, with nothing from Namco for example) but overall not that bad.

As for Top 5? Platform makers used to drop iconic games on day one. But not anymore.

Nintendo 64: Super Mario 64
SNES: Super Mario World / F-Zero
Dreamcast: Sonic Adventure / Soulcalibur
OG Xbox: HALO / PGR
Xbox 360: Kameo / PGR3 / COD2
Wii: Zelda Twilight Princess
GameCube: Luigi's Mansion / Rogue Leader

Not seeing where I could squeeze PS5 into the top 5. But compared to PS4 and PS3 it's quite a nice line-up.

I think it's been mostly portables that have had the best launches and it's been a while since a game console launched with a number of awesome games.  It's unfair to put some of them up there that launched in different countries at different times, like the Dreamcast- came out in '98 with Virtua Fighter 3tb and kusoge stuff.  Sonic didn't come out for a few months and then there were a trickle of titles every few months.  Soul Calibur didn't drop until July or August of '99, IIRC.  Obviously the American/European launches benefited from the wait.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on September 20, 2020, 07:34:01 PM
Most console launches are bad, especially in terms of exclusives the last 20 or so years tbh.

The days of an awesome Mario game at launch or even a Halo like OGXBox are long gone. PS2 was one of the best consoles ever and it's launch lineup was below average. Nintendo of late as just been holding off the latest Zelda til the launch of it's new console and porting it over (TP, BotW). PS4 and Xbox One? Mostly bad, tons of cross-gen and yearly sports titles. 360 and PS3? Mostly bad, tons of cross-gen and yearly sports titles.

 :idont
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tuckers Law on September 20, 2020, 07:36:38 PM
PS5 launch lineup is okay, not great, and that’s alright because Sony has never had a killer launch lineup; that’s something they still haven’t managed to copy from Nintendo  :)


Or Sega  :-\
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 20, 2020, 07:40:41 PM
I think the launch is pretty good. Espically with the reality of game development and just 2020 in general. This is'nt the PS2 gen were games take 1-1.5 years to make. This is the HD4k era where even a car destruction derby game probably took like 3+ years to make. In general the number of games that come out is down. So I think it's pretty great you even have strong a few strong titles for launch. And if things like Ratchet, GoW, and Horizon 2 come out next year that's pretty impressive.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 20, 2020, 09:48:14 PM
...the big first party titles are an asset reuse from a game that's like a coupleish years old an an (admittedly gorgeous) remastered port of an 11 year old game

This is not an impressive launch (yet somehow more impressive than MS, even if they'd had Halo ready :teehee )
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Trent Dole on September 20, 2020, 10:17:35 PM
Nobody should be launching this year but here we are anyway. :yeshrug
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on September 20, 2020, 10:19:02 PM
Most console launches are bad, especially in terms of exclusives the last 20 or so years tbh.

The days of an awesome Mario game at launch or even a Halo like OGXBox are long gone. PS2 was one of the best consoles ever and it's launch lineup was below average. Nintendo of late as just been holding off the latest Zelda til the launch of it's new console and porting it over (TP, BotW). PS4 and Xbox One? Mostly bad, tons of cross-gen and yearly sports titles. 360 and PS3? Mostly bad, tons of cross-gen and yearly sports titles.

 :idont

Seriously  :lol There's been no launch without cross-gen for like two decades. Or you get fucking Nintendogs and "next gen" TLoU that's in reality the same game. I wish I could get excited like in the Super Nintendo days and Silent Hill was real and bc went back to PS1, but realistically this is as good as it can get after the year 2001. And obviously for a launch I will still consider what's specifically slated for the upcoming year.

I'm most likely not getting it day1, but with DeS, Astro and Sackboy there's already 3 Sony games I might pick up later - that's usually the amount of PS 1st party I buy over an entire generation.  :doge  Maybe they all all suck, but right now I'd think something like Astro is still a better pack-in than your usual Faceraiders or Nintendoland. :doge Also I'm no fan of the other Sony IP, but it's crazy what they get out, even if that Spiderman for the casuals is DLC. Still got like five other big 1st party IPs in the near future. Then there's RE8, FF16, Ghostwire, Kena, etc. They have all the mainstream big hitters, but also enough for niche nerds, to the point I will get this way sooner than any other PS. No idea what people think would have improved if they waited out.
:comeon
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on September 20, 2020, 10:31:19 PM
breath of the wild was a pretty incredible launch title, however it was also cross gen, there were massive performance issues and there wasn't anything else decent for a while. i played zelda on wii u before i ever played it on switch because it ran better on that system at launch  :lol

im not saying ps5 launch is great, but er, it's absolutely fine and for most, there will be enough to keep people interested. that ps+ collection will keep me occupied between deso sessions for quite a while having skipped the previous gen mostly.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 20, 2020, 10:43:45 PM
I'd say it's somewhere in the top 5 launch lineups.

 :cmonson

It has a port-up of a game from 2009 and a Spider-Man half-sequel, also releasing on PS4, as its big selling points.  Maybe Destruction All-Stars will be OK?  Nobody seems to care.  Is Astrobot even a "real " game is it or more of a tech demo?  And then the rest are games coming out on everything.  Doesn't scream "top five" to me IMO.

Well I meant like #5 or something because most launches are pretty bad and it's definitely not top tier launch lineup. I'll rephrase that to somewhere between top#6-10 in launch line up histories.

Also I don't care if a game is available elsewhere (does anyone care about the PS4 version of Miles?) or a remaster or whatever. If Nintendo launched with a modern day 4k amazing next-gen graphics remake of Zelda OoT with their next system, people would be say it had a good launch game.

Astrobot is who knows, but it's very good franchise so it could be good. Sackboy could be solid platformer too + the 3rd party launch titles.

I don't think they've even revealed the <$20 or less indie/smaller team games at launch. I'm assuming there will be some of those too like Super Stardust and stuff.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 20, 2020, 10:46:18 PM
Yeah I don't really care if Demon Souls is a remake of an older games or miles is a port-up. I don't see the point of trying to diminish those games. They look great and I want to play them and they are on PS5. So I want a PS5. It's as simple as that.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Positive Touch on September 20, 2020, 10:50:50 PM
demon's souls was never released outside the ps3 and it's 11 years old. i guarantee you there's plenty of people out there looking forward to it that haven't played it before.

still not the same as some cool 10/10 brand new launch title but i'm sure it's something that a ton of people are looking forward to.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on September 20, 2020, 11:01:03 PM
deso is one of the best launch titles ever tbh. up there with thunder force 2, wipeout and halo for me. i've never had a nintendo system at launch and i can only imagine how mindblowing sm64 was at the time. my first 3d mario was sunshine  8)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 20, 2020, 11:33:18 PM
If I hadn't just gotten into BallisticNG I'd be pretty pissed at no Wipeout and again fuck Sony for killing Liverpool.

...but I'm pretty good on Wipeout atm thanks to BallisticNG. Still would like a quality arcade racer although I'm hearing that Inertial Drift is the new Ridge Racer, so once I play that maybe I'm ok on arcade racers atm.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on September 20, 2020, 11:35:54 PM
As much as I loved wipeout hd eventually, i think the series kinda killed itself. Progression was really boring and repetitive.

Mario Kart realised you need better track diversity and to allow the faster races up front. Imagine having to go through 50cc to get 100 to get 150 to get 200 etc
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on September 20, 2020, 11:51:29 PM
Well I meant like #5 or something because most launches are pretty bad and it's definitely not top tier launch lineup. I'll rephrase that to somewhere between top#6-10 in launch line up histories.

I guess you must really like Demon's Souls?  Because I don't know if I'd say that either.  But I'm not big on Souls games.

Also I don't care if a game is available elsewhere (does anyone care about the PS4 version of Miles?) or a remaster or whatever. If Nintendo launched with a modern day 4k amazing next-gen graphics remake of Zelda OoT with their next system, people would be say it had a good launch game.

Yes, people care about the PS4 versions of Miles and Horizon Forbidden West.  Not everyone is able to go drop money on a new game console whenever they want to and Sony has recognized this.  It's a good thing, especially with them saying that you can 'upgrade' to the PS5 versions later on.  That said, it diminishes the platform's big exclusive games, which as of right now are Demon's Souls (sort of?) and Ratchet & Clank. 

I'd be right there saying the same thing about a new Nintendo system if their big launch game was a Zelda OOT port-up with nothing added but improved visuals.

:goldberg
Astrobot is who knows, but it's very good franchise so it could be good. Sackboy could be solid platformer too + the 3rd party launch titles.

Sackboy is another game also on PS4- forget Miles, I'd be asking if anyone cared about that one on PS4.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on September 20, 2020, 11:53:39 PM
Yeah I don't really care if Demon Souls is a remake of an older games or miles is a port-up. I don't see the point of trying to diminish those games. They look great and I want to play them and they are on PS5. So I want a PS5. It's as simple as that.

I don't think these games look bad.  I just don't think what they're offering is top-tier launch material and I do think that if the pandemic never happened, things might look different.  That's it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 21, 2020, 12:10:25 AM
Well then I gotta ask you, what do you think would be top tier launch material? What do you expect from a launch?

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Blast Factor
Call of Duty 3
Genji: Days of the Blade
Madden NFL 07
Marvel Ultimate Alliance
Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire
NBA 07
NBA 2K7
Need for Speed Carbon
Resistance: Fall of Man
Ridge Racer 7
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07
Tony Hawk’s Project 8
Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom
I mean I bolded Sony's games, but outside of Genji I've never played any of them. I don't think Genji is even good let alone a good looking game outside of some of the fire effects. I know people liked Resistance, but I played it a few years later and not only did I think it was ugly, I also felt it wasn't even ok for a console FPS. The rest of the offering seem pretty comparable to what PS5 will have.

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Angry Birds Star Wars
Assassin’s Creed IV: Black Flag
Battlefield 4
Blacklight: Retribution
Call of Duty: Ghosts
Contrast
DC Universe Online
FIFA 14
Flower
Injustice: Gods Among Us Ultimate Edition
Just Dance 2014
Killzone Shadow Fall
Knack
LEGO Marvel Super Heroes
Madden NFL 25
NBA 2K14
NBA Live 14
Need for Speed: Rivals
Resogun
Skylanders Swap Force
Sound Shapes
Super Motherload
The PlayRoom (Installed on every PS4)
Trine 2: The Complete Story
Warframe
Honestly this is a lot of meh to me. The game I played the most here was Battlefield. I will say Killzone was and still is a great looking game. I'm not sure PS5 has something that says next gen like that game.

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Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla
Astro’s Playroom (Installed on every PS5)
Demon’s Souls (Remake)
Destiny 2: Beyond Light
Destruction All-Stars
Devil May Cry 5: Special Edition
Godfall
Observer: System Redux
Sackboy: A Big Adventure
Destruction All Stars
Spider-Man: Miles Morales
Not as big obviously and more could be announced. But I don't know man, I feel like the gaming community is more hyped for Spider-man and Demon souls than then they were for first party offerings of the other two. 

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: mormapope on September 21, 2020, 12:26:08 AM
Most of the hype surrounding the PS4 was about messaging, pricing, and it being a dedicated videogame console. $399.99, used games, games being the focal point behind the console's existence, that was a lot of momentum for launch. Especially compared to Microsoft, which nearly killed the Xbox brand in the span of months.

Next gen for Sony and Microsoft is a very similar roadmap with Microsoft investing in more cutting edge software for game playing and distribution (xcloud and Game Pass), and Sony investing more into first party software.

The PS5 launch is the best Playstation launch regarding software (not
a hard feat) . 2021 will be very interesting for both new consoles regarding what comes out when.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 21, 2020, 12:44:46 AM
I agree with you 100% and it will be interesting. Because I think Sony's approach with a heavy software focus works now and appeals to people like me.

But there is the fact that MS's subscription service and platform not being tied to specific hardware could be the way of the future. I mean even Apple knows that you can't keep content to just one little box.

So I think games are in an interesting spot.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on September 21, 2020, 12:52:25 AM
gamepass might as well be xbox exclusive. no-one gives a shit on pc.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on September 21, 2020, 01:02:59 AM
Well then I gotta ask you, what do you think would be top tier launch material? What do you expect from a launch?

Personal tastes aside, something that really screams "next-gen" and shows off what the system can do.  Something that isn't available on other platforms, either- sell people on the system.  "Also on PS4 and/or PC" doesn't do that.  I don't care for Horizon, but that sequel would have made one hell of a launch title, especially pre-PS4 cross-gen announcement.

Nintex made some good points and I think the types of system launches I like are probably long gone.  For Sony, I liked the Playstation 1 launch line-up at the time, but that was a) the American launch, where they had more time to get out more games, and b) a massive leap from the SNES and Genesis.  I also really liked the PSP and Vita launches.  Looking at those lists and thinking back, PS3 and PS4 didn't have good launches.  PS3 did get Motorstorm, Virtua Fighter 5, and Tekken 5 DR fairly quick (in Japan) after launch, at least.

PS3 also had at least a few more games, but nothing worth mentioning.  The big thing about Resistance at the time was the number of players who could play online- it allowed for 40 player matches, which IIRC was unheard of at the time on consoles.  Genji 2 sucked.  Ridge Racer 7 was also PS3-exclusive, although it felt very much like a RR6 upgrade. 

So let's look at that PS5 launch line-up:
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Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla
Astro’s Playroom (Installed on every PS5)
Demon’s Souls (Remake)
Destiny 2: Beyond Light
Destruction All-Stars
Devil May Cry 5: Special Edition
Godfall
Observer: System Redux
Sackboy: A Big Adventure
Destruction All Stars
Spider-Man: Miles Morales

Let's adjust that for games only available on the PS5:
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Astro’s Playroom (Installed on every PS5)
Demon’s Souls (Remake)
Destruction All-Stars

Three games- the rest are on PC and/or PS4.  That just doesn't scream "day one" to me.  Like I said, I'm not big on Souls.  I'm not really big on Spider-Man either, but I would get that and will likely get it on PS4. 

There's just not a big launch title that has me wanting one of these day one.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Trent Dole on September 21, 2020, 01:04:37 AM
gamepass might as well be xbox exclusive. no-one gives a shit on pc.
There's not as much as pc, and it's a hassle to switch which drive things download to. :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on September 21, 2020, 01:14:55 AM
Most of the hype surrounding the PS4 was about messaging, pricing, and it being a dedicated videogame console. $399.99, used games, games being the focal point behind the console's existence, that was a lot of momentum for launch. Especially compared to Microsoft, which nearly killed the Xbox brand in the span of months.

Yeah, that first E3(?) Xbone reveal is where they lost me.  I took a huge chunk of 360 games and one of my consoles and traded them in to cover the cost of a PS4 and a couple of games.  The funny thing is, I probably would have been happier with an Xbone at launch compared to the PS4- the Xbone had Titanfall (which I got on PC, but it didn't have crossplay and friends had it on Xbox) and Killer Instinct, at least.

Next gen for Sony and Microsoft is a very similar roadmap with Microsoft investing in more cutting edge software for game playing and distribution (xcloud and Game Pass), and Sony investing more into first party software.

The PS5 launch is the best Playstation launch regarding software (not
a hard feat) . 2021 will be very interesting for both new consoles regarding what comes out when.

I like what MS is doing, but to me the message they keep sending is "you don't need our console to play our games."  That's not a bad thing, but I dunno how that's going to work out for their hardware sales.  There's nothing on the Xbox consoles at this point that's actually exclusive to the system- you can't say that about the Playstation and Nintendo consoles.  That said, the Xbox Series S is priced incredibly well and combined with Game Pass, makes it very attractive.  Plus I'm sure there's plenty of people out there who are fine with just the big third-party games/multiplat titles and occasional Halo/Gears.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on September 21, 2020, 01:15:12 AM
I'm not big on Souls.

There's just not a big launch title that has me wanting one of these day one.

i mean.... yeah. that makes perfect sense. i wouldn't be bothering if i wasn't drooling over that ds trailer.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on September 21, 2020, 01:21:04 AM
If I hadn't just gotten into BallisticNG I'd be pretty pissed at no Wipeout and again fuck Sony for killing Liverpool.

...but I'm pretty good on Wipeout atm thanks to BallisticNG. Still would like a quality arcade racer although I'm hearing that Inertial Drift is the new Ridge Racer, so once I play that maybe I'm ok on arcade racers atm.

Have you checked out Redout?  It's another good Wipeout-style racer.

Also check out Hotshot Racing- it's like a new Sega arcade racer!
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tuckers Law on September 21, 2020, 01:23:06 AM
Well then I gotta ask you, what do you think would be top tier launch material? What do you expect from a launch?

Personal tastes aside, something that really screams "next-gen" and shows off what the system can do.  Something that isn't available on other platforms, either- sell people on the system.  "Also on PS4 and/or PC" doesn't do that.


Agreed.  Wii-U with Zombi U remains the last time a system had an exclusive launch game that really sold me on it.

That said, I'm still looking forward to eventually checking out how the Demon's Souls remake compares to the original.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 21, 2020, 08:16:25 AM
I'm not big on Souls.

There's just not a big launch title that has me wanting one of these day one.

i mean.... yeah. that makes perfect sense. i wouldn't be bothering if i wasn't drooling over that ds trailer.
Well then I gotta ask you, what do you think would be top tier launch material? What do you expect from a launch?

Personal tastes aside, something that really screams "next-gen" and shows off what the system can do.  Something that isn't available on other platforms, either- sell people on the system.  "Also on PS4 and/or PC" doesn't do that.


Agreed.  Wii-U with Zombi U remains the last time a system had an exclusive launch game that really sold me on it.

That said, I'm still looking forward to eventually checking out how the Demon's Souls remake compares to the original.

bork will have a PS5 by the end of the year..  :hitler  he'll find something to justify purchase (like we all do)....  My guess is that it'll be Street Fighter related.  :lucille  Wasn't SF suppose to be "improved" with the Dual Sense in mind?...  Or did I just dream that at some point?  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on September 21, 2020, 11:01:16 AM
bork will have a PS5 by the end of the year..  :hitler  he'll find something to justify purchase (like we all do)....  My guess is that it'll be Street Fighter related.  :lucille  Wasn't SF suppose to be "improved" with the Dual Sense in mind?...  Or did I just dream that at some point?  :doge

Nah and nah- you dreamed it.  Nothing with Street Fighter is happening (and using the stock pad for SF?  :yuck) on PS5 right now.  SFV is getting more new content through next summer on PS4 and PC.  I can see a port to PS5 happening, but I wouldn't go buy a system for that.

A new fighting game only on PS5 would certainly have my interest. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on September 21, 2020, 11:26:08 AM
Sony announced a line of new projectors that don't have HDMI 2.1.

https://www.techradar.com/sg/amp/news/hdmi-21-isnt-necessary-for-ps5-says-sony-product-manager

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We spoke with Christopher Mullins, Sony’s Digital & Home Cinema product manager, ahead of the announcement of Sony’s new high-end projector range, which includes a 10,000 lumens beamer called the VPL-GZ380.

.....

“4K at 120Hz is… interesting, but actually with the next-gen consoles the baseline performance is to hit a really good native 4K/60Hz performance, and have that performance across many games.”

I do want to get a 4K/120hz monitor at some point (both for dual screen PC usage and for consoles), but I may just get a 4K 60hz monitor since the prices are much lower and I have a 1440P 144hz monitor anyway.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 21, 2020, 11:30:41 AM
4k is a meme, haven't you heard :girlaff
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on September 21, 2020, 04:35:53 PM
 :dice
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: remy on September 21, 2020, 11:08:36 PM
bork will have a PS5 by the end of the year..  :hitler  he'll find something to justify purchase (like we all do)....  My guess is that it'll be Street Fighter related.  :lucille  Wasn't SF suppose to be "improved" with the Dual Sense in mind?...  Or did I just dream that at some point?  :doge
dual sense...
(https://i.imgur.com/iDzFNvm.png)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 22, 2020, 08:10:52 AM
bork will have a PS5 by the end of the year..  :hitler  he'll find something to justify purchase (like we all do)....  My guess is that it'll be Street Fighter related.  :lucille  Wasn't SF suppose to be "improved" with the Dual Sense in mind?...  Or did I just dream that at some point?  :doge
dual sense...
(https://i.imgur.com/iDzFNvm.png)
This immediately came to mind...

(https://img.ifunny.co/images/0e30762c3fdb8462df935212bbf252d56d19e7fd6c86348ca0a7c0032a636f08_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on September 22, 2020, 03:05:00 PM
(available in both hooker disguise and towel)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 24, 2020, 08:12:31 PM
attn: rahx and anyone else still looking for a preorder

https://www.theverge.com/2020/9/24/21454637/ps5-playstation5-preorder-restock-gamestop-date

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on September 24, 2020, 08:15:49 PM
attn: rahx and anyone else still looking for a preorder

https://www.theverge.com/2020/9/24/21454637/ps5-playstation5-preorder-restock-gamestop-date

I still think it's risky to pre-order anything at Gamestop in-store.  More store closures are happening soon.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 24, 2020, 09:18:00 PM
Agreed but SIR I AM JUST A MESSENGER
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 25, 2020, 07:01:44 AM
Isn’t there a Gran Snorismo game that’s coming soon to the PS5?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 25, 2020, 07:19:36 AM
There’s one coming by but knowing polyphony it won’t be soon :trumps
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 25, 2020, 03:47:00 PM
HAWT TAEK: Gran Turismo is roughly equivalent to a disinterested handjob from someone that doesn't really know how dicks work
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 25, 2020, 04:01:30 PM
Gran Turismo hasn't been interesting since the PS1/2 days for me so yeah
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on September 25, 2020, 04:39:18 PM
My onii-san secured me a PS5 preorder  :uguu
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on September 27, 2020, 03:57:50 PM
gran turismo 3 and ff x were my go to stoner core games in my teens. get ripped and chill. haven't played a gt game since, but I got p into forza on 360.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on September 27, 2020, 03:59:17 PM
getting ripped and having someone give you a disinterested hand job :aah
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: mormapope on September 27, 2020, 04:43:50 PM
getting ripped and having someone give you a disinterested hand job :aah

Do you fuck up your lap time when you cum?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on September 30, 2020, 06:48:30 PM
https://youtu.be/YK-DKgsCt5Y

 :larry
Remasters of PS4 games are really stretching it, especially since they had a mid gen console in between.
You need a looking glass to even see the differences (aside from Peter's face, obviously).
60fps seems to be the biggest get, but paying that kind of money for that, is really out of the question.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on September 30, 2020, 06:53:24 PM
I hope it's more than ray tracing because i'm really not all that excited by that technology, in its current state.
Especially not by reflections, screen space was mostly fine by me.

Once we'll be able to handle all shadows/lighting through it (like that NVIDIA marble demo), it'll be as different story, but that's years away.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on September 30, 2020, 08:08:09 PM
i mean, it's clear the ability to deliver more complex games with more detailed assets alongside higher resolutions, better framerate with better lighting is there. they are signficantly more powerful with a hugely improved ability to stream assets. making games that look "next gen" is def getting harder and more expensive though. that spidey "remaster" doesn't look or sound much better than the series x brute forcing improvements to xbone games.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 30, 2020, 11:03:54 PM
I take it Insomniac didn't handle this "remaster"?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on October 01, 2020, 12:59:28 AM
It legit looks wore at times. Reminds me of the Gears remaster.

I'm assuming you mean those times we see Peter Parker's face.

Because otherwise uh, it's the same game but with RTX and 60fps.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 01, 2020, 03:24:26 AM
It's like looking at a 4k blu ray versus a regular Blu ray. There is a subtle increased level of clarity. It's there, but it's not some amazing jump.

In Spider-man's case it looks more "realistic" looking. 60fps and lighting look better. Materials look more clear in their detail.

It's nice, but nothing that would really make me replay the game. Certainly not something I'd pay for.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 01, 2020, 04:02:41 AM
It looks nicer, but not pay for this shit again pls :money nicer

:girlaff
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on October 01, 2020, 04:32:13 AM
It's like looking at a 4k blu ray versus a regular Blu ray. There is a subtle increased level of clarity. It's there, but it's not some amazing jump.

In Spider-man's case it looks more "realistic" looking. 60fps and lighting look better. Materials look more clear in their detail.

It's nice, but nothing that would really make me replay the game. Certainly not something I'd pay for.
Doesn't help that, as i said, on PS4pro was already basically running in 4K (though through Insomniac upscaling tech) so even in terms of clarity, it's gonna be a hard sell.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: brawndolicious on October 01, 2020, 06:49:54 AM
It's like looking at a 4k blu ray versus a regular Blu ray. There is a subtle increased level of clarity. It's there, but it's not some amazing jump.

In Spider-man's case it looks more "realistic" looking. 60fps and lighting look better. Materials look more clear in their detail.

It's nice, but nothing that would really make me replay the game. Certainly not something I'd pay for.

Compare this shit to Demon's Souls, Halo Anniversary, or MGS:TTS where they basically rebuilt every single art asset in the game. This is like the difference between medium and high in a PC game.

I assume the Miles Morales game will look better if it's designed from the ground up for the PS5?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on October 01, 2020, 07:15:21 AM
It's like looking at a 4k blu ray versus a regular Blu ray. There is a subtle increased level of clarity. It's there, but it's not some amazing jump.

In Spider-man's case it looks more "realistic" looking. 60fps and lighting look better. Materials look more clear in their detail.

It's nice, but nothing that would really make me replay the game. Certainly not something I'd pay for.

Compare this shit to Demon's Souls, Halo Anniversary, or MGS:TTS where they basically rebuilt every single art asset in the game. This is like the difference between medium and high in a PC game.

I assume the Miles Morales game will look better if it's designed from the ground up for the PS5?

It's still using the base of Spiderman for most of the asset, i assume, especially the city (even though it's in winter)
Also it's cross platform, so it's not built from the ground up for PS5.

But it has to be said that Remaster =/= Remake.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 01, 2020, 10:02:42 AM
I like how soyny aren’t even throwing people a ‘bone’ and saying ok it costs £/€/$10 for people who have the PS4 version to upgrade like I think acti are for call of duty :money
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: kingv on October 01, 2020, 10:24:12 PM
That Spider-Man game doesn’t really look... better.

The performance mode has less draw distance than the regular mode in ps4.... that is kind of weird

Like he’s on top of buildings and no cars on PS5  but there are cars on ps4
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on October 02, 2020, 03:24:30 AM
That Spider-Man game doesn’t really look... better.

The performance mode has less draw distance than the regular mode in ps4.... that is kind of weird

Like he’s on top of buildings and no cars on PS5  but there are cars on ps4

That's cause they're working from home in the remaster.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on October 02, 2020, 03:29:57 AM
Also it's cross platform, so it's not built from the ground up for PS5.

But it has to be said that Remaster =/= Remake.

"Built from the ground up" is pretty much a myth.

Actual Spiderman 2 will look better for sure; but it's gonna use the same engine.. just a further upgraded one.
If i look at GTA Vice City or San Andreas, and then i look at GTA 4, i'd definitely think that GTA4 was built from the ground up NOT to run on PS2.
I think this is more or less what people picture when they think that.
But that kind of jump won't happen again.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: kingv on October 02, 2020, 10:27:08 AM
That Spider-Man game doesn’t really look... better.

The performance mode has less draw distance than the regular mode in ps4.... that is kind of weird

Like he’s on top of buildings and no cars on PS5  but there are cars on ps4

That's cause they're working from home in the remaster.

I would have thought that "exact same fidelity at 60FPS" should have been possible fairly easily on the new gen. It's just not a great showcase for PS5, IMO. I'm glad that miles joint is coming on PS4 too. I will get it there.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: who is ted danson? on October 03, 2020, 10:10:09 AM
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ps5-has-664-gb-usable-storage-astros-playroom-2-4-gb.299723/

664GB useable space seems uh super small
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rufus on October 03, 2020, 10:16:23 AM
They're reserving space for suspended games, I'm guessing. That better not be a fixed value.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: nudemacusers on October 03, 2020, 11:42:18 AM
just buy two PS5s

i'm sure everyone is taking this well and not theorycrafting scenarios in which the magic SSD somehow makes this not matter  :brain
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on October 03, 2020, 02:14:10 PM
just buy two PS5s

Just buy a Switch and a gaming PC  :playa
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tuckers Law on October 03, 2020, 08:10:59 PM
If that holds true I’m good waiting for a revision with larger base storage capacity.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on October 03, 2020, 08:59:34 PM
I mean, they're really between a rock and a hard place here technologically. Storage is relatively cheap af now for what was cutting edge 5 years ago, but they're all "we have the most incredible SSDs ever!" so, er, storage is not super cheap. Would bet it's years before the base model is available with a bigger hdd by default. I wonder what their support for shunting game files between a larger external drive and the internal ssd will be like.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Trent Dole on October 03, 2020, 09:05:16 PM
Sounds like the PS5 is hot garbage. Imagine trying to manage the digital only version of this fuckin thing when ISPs have cap limits on bandwidth usage.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on October 03, 2020, 09:27:29 PM
I'm definitely getting an external hard-drive for my PS4 games.

 :nope Wasting SSD space on last gen games.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on October 03, 2020, 10:30:44 PM
Sounds like the PS5 is hot garbage. Imagine trying to manage the digital only version of this fuckin thing when ISPs have cap limits on bandwidth usage.

lol wut, capped limits are still a thing in the US?

if you don't have the capacity to go digital (eg a fast uncapped Internet connection) uh, it'd be kinda weird to buy the digital only version no?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: brawndolicious on October 04, 2020, 02:58:38 AM
Sounds like the PS5 is hot garbage. Imagine trying to manage the digital only version of this fuckin thing when ISPs have cap limits on bandwidth usage.

lol wut, capped limits are still a thing in the US?

if you don't have the capacity to go digital (eg a fast uncapped Internet connection) uh, it'd be kinda weird to buy the digital only version no?

Typical data cap is around 1 TB per month. And it's expensive + slow = expenslow.

But honestly, you should just plan to get an external HDD with any of these next-gen consoles. You don't want to rely on a Bluray drive or expenslow internet pipes to install anything. You can transfer a 50 GB game from a 7200 RPM HDD to the SSD in like 10 minutes versus at least an hour by disk/internet.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 04, 2020, 01:18:14 PM
I'm definitely getting an external hard-drive for my PS4 games.

 :nope Wasting SSD space on last gen games.
I may do the same...  My 5TB external drive is ready..

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/14f156194b9679bd8bf0f359c19cdc56/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: mormapope on October 04, 2020, 02:06:22 PM
External drives are also getting to the point of being super cheap. My 4tb external was on sale for $60 in 2018.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 04, 2020, 02:29:38 PM
Sounds like the PS5 is hot garbage. Imagine trying to manage the digital only version of this fuckin thing when ISPs have cap limits on bandwidth usage.

lol wut, capped limits are still a thing in the US?

if you don't have the capacity to go digital (eg a fast uncapped Internet connection) uh, it'd be kinda weird to buy the digital only version no?

Typical data cap is around 1 TB per month. And it's expensive + slow = expenslow.

But honestly, you should just plan to get an external HDD with any of these next-gen consoles. You don't want to rely on a Bluray drive or expenslow internet pipes to install anything. You can transfer a 50 GB game from a 7200 RPM HDD to the SSD in like 10 minutes versus at least an hour by disk/internet.

1tb data cap in rhe us?

What the f

Savages
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 04, 2020, 03:02:41 PM
Are we even sure you can use external HDDs for PS5 games? Wouldn't it have to be an external SSD? And maybe won't it be system specific like Xbox where it's $200 just for 1tb. It also would be nice if it's not like the PS4, where you can only use one external at a time.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on October 04, 2020, 03:04:04 PM
So did Japanese youtubers show [anything] about this machine?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on October 04, 2020, 04:30:35 PM
Are we even sure you can use external HDDs for PS5 games? Wouldn't it have to be an external SSD? And maybe won't it be system specific like Xbox where it's $200 just for 1tb. It also would be nice if it's not like the PS4, where you can only use one external at a time.

Am not sure if they've confirmed if external hard drives will work for playing PS5 games yet.  The internal SSD can be replaced, however it requires a specific type and AFAIK Sony hasn't said what will work yet. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on October 04, 2020, 04:32:58 PM
So did Japanese youtubers show [anything] about this machine?

This guy played Astro’s Playroom, Godfall, Balan Wonderworld, and Devil May Cry 5 SE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhRVjbUC0UI

This video also has a link to some more in the description:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcnma5xwA44
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcnma5xwA44)

Edit: more videos/info:
https://www.gematsu.com/2020/10/ps5-japanese-hands-on-videos-videos-astros-playroom-balan-wonderworld-devil-may-cry-5-special-edition-and-godfall
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on October 04, 2020, 04:39:34 PM
Nobody cares about gameplay. Any talk about BC, how that works? The UI? Anything?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on October 04, 2020, 04:45:43 PM
Nobody cares about gameplay. Any talk about BC, how that works? The UI? Anything?

Doesn't look like it's anything but videos on those games.  The Gematsu link briefly mentions that they thought the system fans were super-quiet and there's a short video on the controller.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 04, 2020, 04:52:19 PM
PS5 is about games.

Xbox is about hardware.

Thats all recent times have shown me.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: brawndolicious on October 04, 2020, 06:16:18 PM
I don't understand how they chose the games to show off. Astro's playroom is a controller tutorial in the skin of an off-brand Super Mario Sunshine. Godfall has a cool style but the graphics aren't anything amazing and the performance was quite terrible for a game that's apparently finished. DMC5 is just a current gen game with added puddle reflections.

I guess next-gen won't really begin until 2021.

Are we even sure you can use external HDDs for PS5 games? Wouldn't it have to be an external SSD? And maybe won't it be system specific like Xbox where it's $200 just for 1tb. It also would be nice if it's not like the PS4, where you can only use one external at a time.

The way it works for both PS5 and the XSS/X is that you can use an external HDD to either:


So basically, you can have maybe 10 games on the internal storage but if you want to swap a game over from the external HDD, you should expect to wait like 10 minutes for the transfer before you can play.

I know Xbone lets you use up to three external HDDs and presumably the XSX/S will do the same, I can't think of any reason that wouldn't be technically possible for the PS5.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on October 04, 2020, 09:32:56 PM
Are we even sure you can use external HDDs for PS5 games? Wouldn't it have to be an external SSD? And maybe won't it be system specific like Xbox where it's $200 just for 1tb. It also would be nice if it's not like the PS4, where you can only use one external at a time.
Cerny addressed this, you'll need a compatible SSD for PS5 games to run. It also needs to be as fast or faster than the SSD that comes with the system.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/ps5s-expandable-storage-doesnt-use-proprietary-tec/1100-6474918/

You'll be able to use an external hard drive for PS4 games. You could potentially store PS5 games on a HDD but you'd need to move them to the SSD to play them.
 
Quote
Sony said that its upcoming next-gen system is backward compatible and you can push your older PlayStation games to an external hard drive in order to save space on the PS5's 825GB SDD. Such drives can also be used to store PS5 games, but you'll need to move those to a PS5-speed SSD in order to play them.

Edit: Was on the previous page and missed brawndolicious' post. :'(
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 07, 2020, 08:54:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaAY-jAjm0w
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Beezy on October 07, 2020, 09:26:39 AM
Seems like a whole lot of unnecessary plastic?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on October 07, 2020, 09:52:13 AM
Seems like a whole lot of unnecessary plastic?

If you mean the side panels, yeah. Plus it just looks big & ugly.

Internally most of the size stuff has to do with cooling and quietness, which are good. Although I've been lucky and never noticed any loud fan noise from my PS4/PS4 Pro but I get that a lot of people had issues with it so the focus on cooling should be good in general.

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 07, 2020, 10:09:52 AM
Thats fucking massive :whew

I will almost certainly wait for the slim model before getting one :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 07, 2020, 10:22:58 AM
its not just ps4 pro, my ps4 poor is louder than a vaccum at times  :doge

xbox one x is pretty much silent though :rejoice
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 07, 2020, 10:34:15 AM
My PS4 poor never makes a noise because I have earbuds in when I play.  :betty
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on October 07, 2020, 10:56:20 AM
Its fucking huge lmao
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: thetylerrob on October 07, 2020, 11:53:16 AM
lol it's like 50% heatsink. Those fans better be quiet this time.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Akala on October 07, 2020, 11:58:29 AM
I didn't see where you'd add SSD, or did I miss it? I would guess the first bay opened after sliding off the cover but who knows. can't imagine they want people to disassemble all the way to the mainboard.  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 07, 2020, 12:19:18 PM
Those outer plastic panels though.. I can see many a 3rd party ones on the horizon allowing tons of colors and customization.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: benjipwns on October 07, 2020, 01:12:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaAY-jAjm0w
How do we know this guy just isn't small?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rufus on October 07, 2020, 01:28:23 PM
Liquid metal TIM. :leon

That silicon (?) and foam tray surrounding the die is what must have given them so much trouble.

The overengineered stand though. Really went all out with that thing. :dead

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: benjipwns on October 07, 2020, 02:18:08 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/YIQWxkS.png)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: benjipwns on October 07, 2020, 02:20:39 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjvY9-aVkAAFLFi?format=jpg&name=orig)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 07, 2020, 02:27:39 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/FGezSys.jpg)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on October 07, 2020, 03:46:52 PM
lol it's like 50% heatsink. Those fans better be quiet this time.

by all accounts, yes, yes it is
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on October 07, 2020, 03:47:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaAY-jAjm0w
How do we know this guy just isn't small?

i feel like they're doing it on purpose at this point :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on October 07, 2020, 04:07:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaAY-jAjm0w
How do we know this guy just isn't small?

Half an Asian is still big.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 07, 2020, 04:42:22 PM
:whew
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on October 07, 2020, 04:55:50 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/YIQWxkS.png)

tfw your yields are below 50%
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on October 07, 2020, 05:08:21 PM
that teardown was pretty sick. console looks great  8)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: brawndolicious on October 07, 2020, 05:41:54 PM
Radial fans and a heatsink, so it's mostly the same airflow configuration as the PS4 but everything is sized up. Basically, it's better at dealing with heat but it has more heat to deal with. I feel like the only reason they made the console so big was so they could use a regular heatsink rather than a vapor chamber, I'm not sure how much that could reduce the cost though.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rufus on October 07, 2020, 10:31:14 PM
Radial fans and a heatsink, so it's mostly the same airflow configuration as the PS4 but everything is sized up. Basically, it's better at dealing with heat but it has more heat to deal with. I feel like the only reason they made the console so big was so they could use a regular heatsink rather than a vapor chamber, I'm not sure how much that could reduce the cost though.
The vapour chambers we typically see aren't that large. I'm guessing the price/perf was simply unfavourable.

I still think the fan will become louder as it ages, but at least it appears relatively easy to access and replace.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 07, 2020, 11:06:12 PM
I wonder what the Slim version of this is gonna look like
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pennywise on October 07, 2020, 11:16:43 PM
Radial fans and a heatsink, so it's mostly the same airflow configuration as the PS4 but everything is sized up. Basically, it's better at dealing with heat but it has more heat to deal with. I feel like the only reason they made the console so big was so they could use a regular heatsink rather than a vapor chamber, I'm not sure how much that could reduce the cost though.
The vapour chambers we typically see aren't that large. I'm guessing the price/perf was simply unfavourable.

I still think the fan will become louder as it ages, but at least it appears relatively easy to access and replace.

They already win quite a bit with the liquid cooling.
The thermal paste they used for the PS4 was pretty shit, same goes for the thermo pads.

Not to mention the questionable fans they've used last time around, but we'll see. Hopefully it really holds up until the end.
While I wasn't bothered with the PS4 and Pro at first, it became nearly unbearable towards the end.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on October 07, 2020, 11:45:35 PM
Radial fans and a heatsink, so it's mostly the same airflow configuration as the PS4 but everything is sized up. Basically, it's better at dealing with heat but it has more heat to deal with. I feel like the only reason they made the console so big was so they could use a regular heatsink rather than a vapor chamber, I'm not sure how much that could reduce the cost though.
The vapour chambers we typically see aren't that large. I'm guessing the price/perf was simply unfavourable.

I still think the fan will become louder as it ages, but at least it appears relatively easy to access and replace.

They already win quite a bit with the liquid cooling.
The thermal paste they used for the PS4 was pretty shit, same goes for the thermo pads.

Not to mention the questionable fans they've used last time around, but we'll see. Hopefully it really holds up until the end.
While I wasn't bothered with the PS4 and Pro at first, it became nearly unbearable towards the end.

they're using a more standard (for PC's) 120mm fan, whereas before they were using 70/80mm for ps3/4? will displace heat much more easily at least. i don't think i've ever had a 45mm deep fan though. looks weird and custom.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on October 07, 2020, 11:52:21 PM
I wonder what the Slim version of this is gonna look like

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjwkE1FXYAEhefA?format=png&name=small)

:leon

j/k it's this

(https://www.shutupandtakemymoney.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/got-that-early-release-ps5-meme.jpg)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: brawndolicious on October 08, 2020, 02:59:23 AM
Radial fans and a heatsink, so it's mostly the same airflow configuration as the PS4 but everything is sized up. Basically, it's better at dealing with heat but it has more heat to deal with. I feel like the only reason they made the console so big was so they could use a regular heatsink rather than a vapor chamber, I'm not sure how much that could reduce the cost though.
The vapour chambers we typically see aren't that large. I'm guessing the price/perf was simply unfavourable.

I still think the fan will become louder as it ages, but at least it appears relatively easy to access and replace.

I said it weird but I meant that a vapor chamber would be much smaller for the size.  Due to the high clocks, the PS5 is generating a lot of heat in a relatively small die so maybe that affected whether a heat pipe or a vapor chamber would be the best solution?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on October 08, 2020, 03:41:17 AM
That heatsink is fucking insane :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 08, 2020, 04:31:07 PM
I wonder what the Slim version of this is gonna look like

Hopefully it will be in black, because ugh @ this white trash
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on October 08, 2020, 04:55:39 PM
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2020/10/sony_launching_new_ps_store_on_web_and_mobile_this_month

There's no way Sony will do something as stupid as this right? Lmao
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tuckers Law on October 08, 2020, 05:10:41 PM
Does anyone actually use their web store?  My experience with navigating and searching through it has always been a nightmarish clusterfuck, and that store has been long long overdue for the old teller treatment in favor of something new.

Like, Nintendo’s webstore has been more user friendly for many several years now, in comparison.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on October 08, 2020, 05:17:55 PM
I used the web store many times when buying PSP, Vita, PS3 and PS4 games yes

Nintendo is only recently making a web store that is barebones functional. The Bore of videogames
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tuckers Law on October 08, 2020, 06:26:09 PM
I guess I was using it wrong then, because the last couple times I tried browsing for some games on it was enough to push me into using the PS4 store browser, which is pretty shit.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rufus on October 08, 2020, 07:06:48 PM
I said it weird but I meant that a vapor chamber would be much smaller for the size.  Due to the high clocks, the PS5 is generating a lot of heat in a relatively small die so maybe that affected whether a heat pipe or a vapor chamber would be the best solution?
Yeah, I follow you. I'm guessing it's just a matter of cost. They say in the teardown that they shaped the heatsink to have VC-like performance, which leads me to believe it's an adequate but much cheaper solution.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Kestastrophe on October 08, 2020, 09:43:04 PM
Wtf did they do to ma trophies :beli
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 08, 2020, 11:03:33 PM
Holup... They're removing the wishlist from the store??  They mean just the PS3, Vita, PSP games wishlist, right?  :nugenix
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on October 08, 2020, 11:37:51 PM
the datamine/rumor was that wishlists were being moved to console side for PS5.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 09, 2020, 11:55:14 AM
Quote
Here's a complete list of PS4 games that will not work on PS5:

DWVR

Afro Samurai 2 Revenge of Kuma Volume One
TT Isle of Man - Ride on the Edge 2
Just Deal With It!
Shadow Complex Remastered
Robinson: The Journey
We Sing
Hitman Go: Definitive Edition
Shadwen
Joe's Diner

Everything else will work, although some stuff might not work perfectly.
Pre-order cancelled
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 09, 2020, 12:28:53 PM
all of the hits :titus
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on October 09, 2020, 01:58:46 PM
Shadow Complex is pretty good  :idont
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 09, 2020, 03:07:06 PM
wasn't it made by a super nazi or some shit?

i vaguely recall some hand wringing over it :trumps
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on October 09, 2020, 09:18:14 PM
Quote
Here's a complete list of PS4 games that will not work on PS5:

DWVR

Afro Samurai 2 Revenge of Kuma Volume One
TT Isle of Man - Ride on the Edge 2
Just Deal With It!
Shadow Complex Remastered
Robinson: The Journey
We Sing
Hitman Go: Definitive Edition
Shadwen
Joe's Diner

Everything else will work, although some stuff might not work perfectly.
Pre-order cancelled

There's also this:

Quote
Certain features in some titles might not work on PS5 (though Sony didn’t go into specifics), and you might run into “errors or unexpected behavior” while playing PS4 games. The company suggests testing your PS4 games on PS5 before buying any add-ons or DLC you want to pick up.

Which seems to translate to "hey, here's a list of games that won't boot up at all- others might be all kinds of fucked, but they'll at least start up!"

:idont
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on October 09, 2020, 10:27:19 PM
so normal bc
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on October 09, 2020, 10:30:31 PM
so normal bc

Don't remember having issues with PS1 and PS2 games on the launch PS3.  Or PS1 games on PS2. Or PSP games on Vita. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rufus on October 10, 2020, 12:33:10 AM
"We didn't QA this thorougly and never will", is what that tells me.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 10, 2020, 01:16:38 AM
Even with PS2 built into the PS3, it did'nt run 100% of the library and some games had issues. Which got worse with the emulation models.

https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_and_PlayStation_2_games_compatible_with_PlayStation_3.html

And how do you QA all of that anyway? You have to have people run through every game under tons of circumstances.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on October 10, 2020, 01:17:46 AM
so normal bc

Don't remember having issues with PS1 and PS2 games on the launch PS3.  Or PS1 games on PS2. Or PSP games on Vita.

Ape Escape wasn't playable on PS3 for one.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on October 10, 2020, 01:56:07 AM
Even with PS2 built into the PS3, it did'nt run 100% of the library and some games had issues. Which got worse with the emulation models.

https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_and_PlayStation_2_games_compatible_with_PlayStation_3.html

And how do you QA all of that anyway? You have to have people run through every game under tons of circumstances.

Ah, OK.  Good point.  This is different now, though, with games having DLC.  I don't like them saying what appears to be "make sure you play this game first before getting DLC for it!"  What if the game appears fine, but then five hours in it's broken?  Are they going to refund the DLC and/or digital purchase? 

so normal bc

Don't remember having issues with PS1 and PS2 games on the launch PS3.  Or PS1 games on PS2. Or PSP games on Vita.

Ape Escape wasn't playable on PS3 for one.

The PAL version was messed up, not the NTSC version, IIRC.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on October 10, 2020, 03:29:05 AM
Seems like a pretty standard "we can't guarantee that 100% of the games will be 100% fine" warning to cover their asses. The only way around that would be to fully test every single game, which is basically impossible.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on October 10, 2020, 04:59:01 PM
It’s probably just text to cover their ass similar to how they cautioned that boost mode on PS4 Pro might cause unexpected behavior on old games even though that was basically never the case.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 12, 2020, 03:05:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0ABMkK5bO4

Reminds me of PSP start up in ways   :aweshum
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 12, 2020, 07:58:01 PM
Apparently the PS5 HD Camera will not be compatible with PSVR BC.  Glad I didn't pick that up on my pre-order. :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: remy on October 12, 2020, 10:29:35 PM
is the rare replay collection bbc
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 12, 2020, 11:27:44 PM
Moar pre order stock incoming apparently

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2020/10/12/ps5-and-xbox-series-xs-pre-orders-new-stock-coming-october-13-when-and-where/#543f5aab1c66
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Himu on October 13, 2020, 01:04:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0ABMkK5bO4

Reminds me of PSP start up in ways   :aweshum

this is sick and very reminiscent of classic (pre-ps3) Sony.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Beezy on October 14, 2020, 04:29:51 PM
https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1316471465412358144
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 15, 2020, 09:19:31 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TBPrYJDoDE&feature=emb_title
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 15, 2020, 10:41:13 AM
Pretty slick.... probably a lot of features I wouldn't use, like the party chat shit, but still slick.  The game progress feature will eat away at my soul probably.  :existential
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on October 15, 2020, 01:11:05 PM
That progression meter is terrible. How about you don't fucking spoil the game for me?  :crazy I guess at least that cheat mode that comes with it is not directly in the game like with Nintendo. Still :nope
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 15, 2020, 01:49:10 PM
I have about 80% of my PS4 features turned off.  As long as I can disable them, I'm good.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 15, 2020, 02:24:28 PM
Got an email that that accessories will be shipped earlier on 10/30.   :doggy
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Akala on October 15, 2020, 03:19:33 PM
why do they keep trying to make sackboy a thing.  :yuck

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on October 16, 2020, 08:58:15 AM
More like Sack of Shitboy.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Trent Dole on October 16, 2020, 04:24:35 PM
BK are getting in on the 'eat here win console' bandwagon
https://www.newsweek.com/ps5-burger-king-contest-rules-how-enter-bk-app-1538774
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on October 18, 2020, 05:24:01 PM
More like Sack of Shitboy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1bnlZsBIEM
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 23, 2020, 12:05:55 PM
Those outer plastic panels though.. I can see many a 3rd party ones on the horizon allowing tons of colors and customization.
And here they are...  :kermit
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/coloured-ps5-faceplates-are-already-unofficially-on-sale/
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 23, 2020, 12:52:00 PM
For $40 more you can officially un-ugly your PS5, total game changer
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: team filler on October 23, 2020, 02:09:58 PM
suxboy  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on October 23, 2020, 02:33:27 PM
For $40 more you can officially un-ugly your PS5, total game changer

I still think the design itself is ugly.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 23, 2020, 03:18:58 PM
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/cafc76462eec59f955b8392b7a4c0b8a/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 23, 2020, 04:04:53 PM
For $40 more you can officially un-ugly your PS5, total game changer

I still think the design itself is ugly.

The design itself is ugly but it is amplified and made obnoxious by the white panels. White electronics are haram, it is known.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 23, 2020, 04:46:55 PM
Sony~ "In light of MicroSoft acquiring Bethesda Studios, we have made the proud decision of purchasing a Travis Scott.....  what studio is this?"  :wut
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 23, 2020, 05:34:20 PM
DualSense confirmed to work with PC out of the box.  :rejoice 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfZ6yLeC1OI

He plays xCloud off his phone using it.  :awesome
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 26, 2020, 11:43:02 AM
Destruction AllStars for PS5 is moving to February, as part of PlayStation Plus.  :obama  Guess I'll have a reason to try it now.

Edit: Only for the first 2 months of launch apparently.  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 26, 2020, 11:25:43 PM
GOW is confirmed to be patched for 60fps on PS5. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 27, 2020, 08:30:47 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElVTnVDXUAAUcHx?format=jpg&name=orig)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on October 27, 2020, 08:44:13 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElVaLTMXYAAtsQ8?format=jpg&name=small)

Lmao
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 27, 2020, 08:51:31 AM
PS5 is friggin PS Beast mode.  :lol  I'm just glad I can tuck this behind my TV just nice... Create a little ambience with it's internal blue light too.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Akala on October 27, 2020, 09:45:59 AM
I'm procrastinating as far as where to put the thing. it's likely just going to end up horizontal rather than some dumb monolith on top of the tower but not sure.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on October 27, 2020, 10:55:22 AM
Thing is ugly as shit. Already renting out a spare bedroom for it
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: tiesto on October 27, 2020, 02:19:55 PM
On its side it looks like an airport terminal designed in an 80's version of 'futuristic' architectural style...
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rufus on October 27, 2020, 02:30:42 PM
Smart that it vents face to rear though, in case people do wedge it into their 'entertainment centre'.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on October 27, 2020, 03:57:48 PM
Smart that it vents face to rear though, in case people do wedge it into their 'entertainment centre'.

https://twitter.com/thegamerwebsite/status/1321062460670050306
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on October 27, 2020, 04:02:30 PM
Wtf lmao 😂
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: El Babua on October 27, 2020, 04:02:30 PM
I should have enough space to stand it vertically next to the TV. But won't fit in any of the cabinets underneath lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on October 27, 2020, 04:08:38 PM
Is it bigger than an OG xbox?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 27, 2020, 05:20:20 PM
Smart that it vents face to rear though, in case people do wedge it into their 'entertainment centre'.

https://twitter.com/thegamerwebsite/status/1321062460670050306
(https://media.giphy.com/media/iGAXf0OlUUMYo/giphy.gif)
Is it bigger than an OG xbox?
Oh yeah
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on October 27, 2020, 06:06:07 PM
 :notlikethis
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 27, 2020, 07:12:51 PM
Is it bigger than an OG xbox?

Probably about the same size as an og xbone :whew
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 27, 2020, 08:07:11 PM
Answering the question, "what if Big Chungus was a console?"
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: brawndolicious on October 27, 2020, 09:39:43 PM
Is it bigger than an OG xbox?

Probably about the same size as an og xbone :whew

NOPE

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElVaiN6XYAA-mXz?format=jpg)
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Maybe the slim revision in a couple years will be the same size as the OG xbox, the 2013 xbone was slightly smaller than the OG.

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 28, 2020, 12:05:00 PM
Bugsnax is free on Plus(PS5 version only) in November.

Also No Man's Sky is getting a free PS5 update.

PS Plus Collection has some additions:

COD Blops 3 Zombies Chronicles Edition
Crash N Sane Trilogy
FFXV is now Royal edition instead of vanilla.

After playing FFVIIR, been wanting to try FFXV.  Glad I waited.

And my DualSense should be arriving tomorrow.  :hyper
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on October 28, 2020, 12:18:21 PM
So screw Bork's nitpicking, I'm gonna keep my statement that PS5 launch is looking like Top5 console launches.

Astrobot's playground impressions coming off well, Demon Souls, Sackboy, Miles all looking great. Bugsnax free day 1 in addition to Astrobot, a whole bunch of PS4 games getting patched for free PS5 ultimate editions at launch or in the first month. PS+ Collection of 20+ free games if you don't have some of them (I have basically all of them outside Fallout 4 [who wants without mods?] and COD Blops 3). If you don't have a super up to date PC gaming rig, along with Xbox Series X, best versions of major 3rd party games like Watchdogs/AC Unity, Cyberpunk a month later.

Like there's going to be a lot to play for the first month or two or three and the major titles look like they'll actually be good. Then free Destruction Allstars in Feb...Ratchet & Clank in Spring...

All in all it seems like they're doing a good job at making a strong year 1 which is usually slow and full of nothing for new consoles. Pretty hyped for PS5 launch.

Bugsnax is free on Plus(PS5 version only) in November.

Also No Man's Sky is getting a free PS5 update.

PS Plus Collection has some additions:

COD Blops 3 Zombies Chronicles Edition
Crash N Sane Trilogy
FFXV is now Royal edition instead of vanilla.

After playing FFVIIR, been wanting to try FFXV.  Glad I waited.

And my DualSense should be arriving tomorrow.  :hyper

FFXV's fun/good even if it's got problems. It should run pretty nice in boost mode. I remember the PS4 Pro version being basically unlocked framerate.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Beezy on October 28, 2020, 04:04:51 PM
If you're gonna count those PS4 games as a part of PS5's launch lineup, will you do the same for Series X/S and everything on Gamepass optimized for them?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on October 28, 2020, 04:10:03 PM
*Shoves Splinter Cell Chaos Theory in his Series X*

Best launch ever!
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on October 28, 2020, 04:48:46 PM
https://twitter.com/Arkunir/status/1321214599987953666

 :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 28, 2020, 04:51:50 PM
If you're gonna count those PS4 games as a part of PS5's launch lineup, will you do the same for Series X/S and everything on Gamepass optimized for them?
No.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on October 28, 2020, 05:05:29 PM
If you're gonna count those PS4 games as a part of PS5's launch lineup, will you do the same for Series X/S and everything on Gamepass optimized for them?

Sure, why not? I never said the Series X lineup is bad. Just that the PS5 launch lineup is good. Hell if I got a Series S/X it would be mostly for BC.

Plus every generation in recent years has had a lot of cross-gen stuff at launch. Just because you can get a shittier version on existing systems doesn't make the games less of a big deal for new systems.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Beezy on October 28, 2020, 06:19:56 PM
If you're gonna count those PS4 games as a part of PS5's launch lineup, will you do the same for Series X/S and everything on Gamepass optimized for them?

Sure, why not? I never said the Series X lineup is bad. Just that the PS5 launch lineup is good. Hell if I got a Series S/X it would be mostly for BC.

Plus every generation in recent years has had a lot of cross-gen stuff at launch. Just because you can get a shittier version on existing systems doesn't make the games less of a big deal for new systems.
I'm not accusing you of anything, I'm just asking because I personally feel both have bad launch lineups even though PS5's is obviously better. I've had both XBL Gold (and more recently Gamepass) and PSN+ for years and I have a huge backlog of things that I actually want to play, so I'm happy that for the backwards compatibility. I can't think of that backlog as part of the launch lineups though.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mupepe on October 28, 2020, 08:47:45 PM
So I know this is a dumb question, especially considering I already have a ps5 preordered, but will ps4 games see an automatic improvement or do they need to specifically be patched? Even though I own a ps4 I never got around to TLOU or TLOU2 so I was hoping those would be improved.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on October 28, 2020, 08:55:44 PM
So I know this is a dumb question, especially considering I already have a ps5 preordered, but will ps4 games see an automatic improvement or do they need to specifically be patched? Even though I own a ps4 I never got around to TLOU or TLOU2 so I was hoping those would be improved.

They'll work and if they have an unlocked framerate they should have a higher framerate. I think TLoU2 is locked 30fps so it wouldn't be any different unless they patched them. I feel like TLoU1 remastered was already 60fps?

Like Ghost of Tsushima is locked 30fps but they are patching in an unlocked fps mode so in PS5 boost mode it plays at 60fps.


TLoU2 has been way too silent throughout all the announcements. Pretty sure they're not going to do any improvement patches and instead do a Spider-Man PS5 style "remaster" adding ray-tracing, 60fps, 4k, etc... and then sell it for $50 or something.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mupepe on October 28, 2020, 09:07:51 PM
Gotcha. I was hoping it was more like series x in how it used the extra power, but it seems like actual dramatic improvements will require a specific patch.

Good thing I have a decent backlog on ps4, but I am excited to try the SM games.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 28, 2020, 09:13:25 PM
TLOU1 recently got patched and cuts load times down by almost 80% for regular ass HDD base PS4 actually.

I think they've been too silent on Bloodborne.  It's like one of the biggest BC wants, but not a peep or update... But being part of the PS+ Collection, I'd think it will have some sort of improvement.. They'd really shoot themselves in the foot of they don't patch it to unlock the frame rate at least.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on October 28, 2020, 09:28:41 PM
Oh yeah, because of the SSD besides framerate improvements in unlocked framerate games, load times should also be heavily reduced in a lot of games w/boost mode.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on October 28, 2020, 09:40:17 PM
I'll be shocked if all the the PS+ Collection games won't take advantage of boost mode. Several are already confirmed to be getting patches.

That said if Bloodborne isn't given some kind of special treatment to fix its issues, they royally fucked up.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tuckers Law on October 28, 2020, 11:27:04 PM
I'll be shocked if all the the PS+ Collection games won't take advantage of boost mode. Several are already confirmed to be getting patches.

That said if Bloodborne isn't given some kind of special treatment to fix its issues, they royally fucked up.

This is the dick-faced Jim "nobody plays old games" Ryan Sony, so I expect Bloodborne to get the most special of treatments: a $60 remaster (10 dollars off MSRP for PS5 games, what a bargain!).
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: remy on October 28, 2020, 11:48:43 PM
I'll be shocked if all the the PS+ Collection games won't take advantage of boost mode. Several are already confirmed to be getting patches.

That said if Bloodborne isn't given some kind of special treatment to fix its issues, they royally fucked up.

This is the dick-faced Jim "nobody plays old games" Ryan Sony, so I expect Bloodborne to get the most special of treatments: a $60 remaster (10 dollars off MSRP for PS5 games, what a bargain!).
Yea, this is basically where I was at with it, but I would love to be proven wrong! Best game with the absolutely fucking worst frame rate.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on October 29, 2020, 12:20:05 AM
From the playstation blog

"PS4 games redeemed from the PlayStation Plus Collection and played on the PS5 console will see benefits such as increased loading speed and improved or more stable framerates with PS5’s Game Boost."

We can hope.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on October 29, 2020, 12:28:16 AM
Isn't the problem with Bloodborne that it's a technical mess and would require From Software to actually sit down and spend time recoding their engine?

Unless Sony pays them the $$ to do it for a patch or a remaster to re-release, I don't see it happening.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on October 29, 2020, 12:36:25 AM
A youtuber figured it out using some code from DS3. I'm sure SIE Japan Studio could manage considering they helped with development.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on October 29, 2020, 12:45:53 AM
That youtuber took like 5 years of hardcore coding shit. Like that tells me the opposite, that it's why too difficult to accomplish unless they get From Soft to spend a few weeks re-working their old code, which From probably doesn't want to do since they'd rather be working on their current games.

I guess if Japan studio actually was involved in coding maybe they can do it, yeah. We'll see.

I think it'll happen some day, but even though Bloodborne sold well and was critically praised, it still feels like a niche game that Sony doesn't care about because it's too small. Sorta like Gravity Rush but bigger than that one.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Himu on October 29, 2020, 01:32:22 AM
What the fuck. Should I wait for a ps5 slim? This shit looks like a computer tower. :whew
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Himu on October 29, 2020, 02:33:11 AM
I can't predict what will happen, but after some thinking I'm really not feeling good about PS5 and the genre I'm active the most in: fighting games. Fighting game community events, in the before times, are for the most part weekly. You travel to your local event and bring a set up. A lag free monitor, the game, a stick/controller, and a system. You can fit the system in a back pack. It's nice, easy, and relatively pain free unless you're playing a retro game and have to bring a crt. But for the most part, there's little pain in bringing an FGC set up. PS5 complicates this. Not only are set ups limited due to space, PS5 doesn't even have two USB slots and I don't know a single arcade stick on the market that supports USB-C. While you can bring an adapter, how much extra lag will it create? Now you have to bring an adapter and fit room for a big ass system that's probably bigger than the monitor itself on limited space.

(https://i.imgur.com/qMD9GRT.jpg)

See how compact the PS4 is? At a fighting game tournament, you're going to have to have at least two PS5's on a single table. No bueno.

Between travel, an adapter, more room to fit the damn thing this isn't looking good for fighting games.

The only reason PS4 was the system of choice for the fgc last gen was because SFV (the main fgc game) was exclusive to it on consoles.

If Xbox has Street Fighter VI while I can't predict anything, it's going to look a looooot more appealing than dragging a PS5 around.

I'm imagining bringing a PS5 to a local event in New York City, on the goddamn subway. No bueno.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: remy on October 29, 2020, 02:48:04 AM
I can't predict what will happen, but after some thinking I'm really not feeling good about PS5 and the genre I'm active the most in: fighting games. Fighting game community events, in the before times, are for the most part weekly. You travel to your local event and bring a set up. A lag free monitor, the game, a stick/controller, and a system. You can fit the system in a back pack. It's nice, easy, and relatively pain free unless you're playing a retro game and have to bring a crt. But for the most part, there's little pain in bringing an FGC set up. PS5 complicates this. Not only are set ups limited due to space, PS5 doesn't even have two USB slots and I don't know a single arcade stick on the market that supports USB-C. While you can bring an adapter, how much extra lag will it create? Now you have to bring an adapter and fit room for a big ass system that's probably bigger than the monitor itself on limited space.

(https://i.imgur.com/qMD9GRT.jpg)

See how compact the PS4 is? At a fighting game tournament, you're going to have to have at least two PS5's on a single table. No bueno.

Between travel, an adapter, more room to fit the damn thing this isn't looking good for fighting games.

The only reason PS4 was the system of choice for the fgc last gen was because SFV (the main fgc game) was exclusive to it on consoles.

If Xbox has Street Fighter VI while I can't predict anything, it's going to look a looooot more appealing than dragging a PS5 around.

I'm imagining bringing a PS5 to a local event in New York City, on the goddamn subway. No bueno.

I feel like FGC nerds would rather lose a pinky than go xbox though, at this point.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Himu on October 29, 2020, 02:52:13 AM
I can't predict what will happen, but after some thinking I'm really not feeling good about PS5 and the genre I'm active the most in: fighting games. Fighting game community events, in the before times, are for the most part weekly. You travel to your local event and bring a set up. A lag free monitor, the game, a stick/controller, and a system. You can fit the system in a back pack. It's nice, easy, and relatively pain free unless you're playing a retro game and have to bring a crt. But for the most part, there's little pain in bringing an FGC set up. PS5 complicates this. Not only are set ups limited due to space, PS5 doesn't even have two USB slots and I don't know a single arcade stick on the market that supports USB-C. While you can bring an adapter, how much extra lag will it create? Now you have to bring an adapter and fit room for a big ass system that's probably bigger than the monitor itself on limited space.

(https://i.imgur.com/qMD9GRT.jpg)

See how compact the PS4 is? At a fighting game tournament, you're going to have to have at least two PS5's on a single table. No bueno.

Between travel, an adapter, more room to fit the damn thing this isn't looking good for fighting games.

The only reason PS4 was the system of choice for the fgc last gen was because SFV (the main fgc game) was exclusive to it on consoles.

If Xbox has Street Fighter VI while I can't predict anything, it's going to look a looooot more appealing than dragging a PS5 around.

I'm imagining bringing a PS5 to a local event in New York City, on the goddamn subway. No bueno.

I feel like FGC nerds would rather lose a pinky than go xbox though, at this point.

(https://i.imgur.com/GcErd3C.gif)

Is this legit or a joke?

Have you ever been to an FGC event? 360 ran shit. A lot of people say "fuck consoles, their performance is shit" and just play on PC at home, but when it comes to events we still play on ps4.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Coax on October 29, 2020, 03:01:46 AM
Between travel, an adapter, more room to fit the damn thing this isn't looking good for fighting games. If Xbox has Street Fighter VI while I can't predict anything, it's going to look a looooot more appealing than dragging a PS5 around.

The new Xbox models remind me of small form factor PC cases (with the S model smaller than would be feasible to build for the specs as a PC). Something like the FormD T1 is pretty compact though and can fit 2 or 3 slot GPUs inside but pricey. Seen many such cases paired with portable Asus monitors that are displayed and powered via a single USB-C cable.

FormD T1 for scale
(https://abload.de/img/formd-t1zojcs.jpg)
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Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Himu on October 29, 2020, 03:05:22 AM
Hm. Okay so the ps5 has three USB-A's but two are on the back. But the system is so fucking big how much cord would you even have left on an arcade stick?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Himu on October 29, 2020, 03:05:52 AM
Between travel, an adapter, more room to fit the damn thing this isn't looking good for fighting games. If Xbox has Street Fighter VI while I can't predict anything, it's going to look a looooot more appealing than dragging a PS5 around.

The new Xbox models remind me of small form factor PC cases (with the S model smaller than would be feasible to build for the specs as a PC). Something like the FormD T1 is pretty compact though and can fit 2 or 3 slot GPUs inside but pricey. Seen many such cases paired with portable Asus monitors that are displayed and powered via a single USB-C cable.

FormD T1 for scale
(https://abload.de/img/formd-t1zojcs.jpg)
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Problem with series s is that it's underpowered.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: remy on October 29, 2020, 03:40:37 AM
I can't predict what will happen, but after some thinking I'm really not feeling good about PS5 and the genre I'm active the most in: fighting games. Fighting game community events, in the before times, are for the most part weekly. You travel to your local event and bring a set up. A lag free monitor, the game, a stick/controller, and a system. You can fit the system in a back pack. It's nice, easy, and relatively pain free unless you're playing a retro game and have to bring a crt. But for the most part, there's little pain in bringing an FGC set up. PS5 complicates this. Not only are set ups limited due to space, PS5 doesn't even have two USB slots and I don't know a single arcade stick on the market that supports USB-C. While you can bring an adapter, how much extra lag will it create? Now you have to bring an adapter and fit room for a big ass system that's probably bigger than the monitor itself on limited space.

(https://i.imgur.com/qMD9GRT.jpg)

See how compact the PS4 is? At a fighting game tournament, you're going to have to have at least two PS5's on a single table. No bueno.

Between travel, an adapter, more room to fit the damn thing this isn't looking good for fighting games.

The only reason PS4 was the system of choice for the fgc last gen was because SFV (the main fgc game) was exclusive to it on consoles.

If Xbox has Street Fighter VI while I can't predict anything, it's going to look a looooot more appealing than dragging a PS5 around.

I'm imagining bringing a PS5 to a local event in New York City, on the goddamn subway. No bueno.

I feel like FGC nerds would rather lose a pinky than go xbox though, at this point.

(https://i.imgur.com/GcErd3C.gif)

Is this legit or a joke?

Have you ever been to an FGC event? 360 ran shit. A lot of people say "fuck consoles, their performance is shit" and just play on PC at home, but when it comes to events we still play on ps4.

Fair enough. I only lived in a city during ps4 generation so have only been going to locals since then and everything has been PS4.

i do agree the xboxes have way better form factors for locals. even better if they're quiet.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on October 29, 2020, 04:05:39 AM
Hm. Okay so the ps5 has three USB-A's but two are on the back. But the system is so fucking big how much cord would you even have left on an arcade stick?

 :doge

I mean you lose like...1/2 foot at most going from back instead of front on a cord.

It'll be fine.

Just be excited about this new generation of fighting games without load times. Fighting games will have one of the biggest improvements this gen out of any genre. Fuck load times in fighters. Some are still too long.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Himu on October 29, 2020, 08:46:40 AM
For fighting games, Xbox S is the better deal. As long as games are 1080p and 60 fps who cares.

Ps5 looks bad for the genre in terms of convenience and travel.

Looks like a good system outside of that though.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Himu on October 29, 2020, 09:07:51 AM
Just thinking of the process of hooking up controllers on the ps5. This but ass behemoth. In a tournament, where people are regularly plugging in and plugging out, convenience is king. Putting controller ports in the back is horrific for a system so big. You could turn it 180 and have the ports face forward but at that point you might as well look for better solutions. Think of the times you had to go to the back of a system on an entertainment center. You probably had to move it somewhat to get a clear view of the ports to see where you're sticking cables. Imagine that for controllers and during an event already pressed for time.

At a tournament this thing would be a liability.

FGC needs to go with xbox this gen. This all hinges on SFVI.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 29, 2020, 09:27:00 AM
More Demon's Souls gameplay!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhRFMcdYNS0&feature=emb_logo

 :whoo 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: El Babua on October 29, 2020, 09:30:11 AM
PS5 better be quiet AF since 90 percent of its mass is a big ass fan attached to a gigantic heatsink.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on October 29, 2020, 09:47:51 AM
Did they get rid of the old soundtrack? I love the old one.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Himu on October 29, 2020, 09:55:51 AM
Demon's looks incredible :lawd
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on October 29, 2020, 10:38:28 AM
New ost sucks
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: El Babua on October 29, 2020, 03:46:19 PM
The director said that they're full orchestral arrangements of the originals.

But I don't like it. The whole thing about the original Demon's Souls' music was that it was dark, foreboding, and somewhat off-kilter - with a more choral instrumentation than orchestral. The remake's tracks just sound too bright.

Really like everything else they had to say though. Maybe aside from the missing archstone still being missing.

https://www.polygon.com/interviews/2020/10/29/21539158/demons-souls-ps5-remake-changes-sixth-archstone-world-tendency
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on October 29, 2020, 04:55:52 PM
Souls games have music?


I swear my memory of these games are just ambient background noise and footsteps and clang of armor/weapons. I guess boss fights have music, but otherwise can't really remember any tunes.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 29, 2020, 05:04:49 PM
DualSense came in!  Feels damn good.  Definitely has more weight to it, but feels ultra solid and tight.  Slightly smaller than expected, but feels perfectly contoured to my hands.  face buttons are surprisingly more inset than expected, but feel just as responsive.  The d-pad is vastly improved (imo) and feels more reminiscent to PS1-2 era DS controller d-pds.  Can't wait to try this thing out!
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on October 29, 2020, 05:26:44 PM
d-pad is better? :o

I honestly really like the DS4 d-pad. It's why I use it as my main controller for anything 2d or fighters. I prefer it to the Nintendo cross d-pad. Not sure how much better you can make it, but if it's better, it's better.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 29, 2020, 05:34:24 PM
d-pad is better? :o

I honestly really like the DS4 d-pad. It's why I use it as my main controller for anything 2d or fighters. I prefer it to the Nintendo cross d-pad. Not sure how much better you can make it, but if it's better, it's better.
Well, funny you mention the DS4 d-pad... I'm not a big fan of it.  It felt like a step down from prior DS controllers imo, so not sure if others would agree.  The DS4 d-pad feels slightly too big for me, and I have somewhat oafish hands too.  Plus, I want to say the edges of the PS4 d-pad seem ever so slightly sharper too.

Edit: After doing some side by side, I think it mostly has to do with how the shape of the controller houses around the d-pad is what makes it feel much better to me.   I'm going to try it on my PC with some Fight N' Rage or something this weekend.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nuitangg on October 30, 2020, 12:53:31 PM
https://youtu.be/uLwFYPsS_Zc

 :noah
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 30, 2020, 01:19:58 PM
https://youtu.be/uLwFYPsS_Zc

 :noah

I almost felt dirty for the way they started off with that box... like unboxing porn or something.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Probably hooks up there electronics like so....

(https://www.supermovieball.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Cableguy-Sweet-Spot.gif)
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Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on October 30, 2020, 03:49:25 PM
:leon

https://imgur.com/ojMm3pa
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on October 30, 2020, 08:31:17 PM
So screw Bork's nitpicking, I'm gonna keep my statement that PS5 launch is looking like Top5 console launches.

Astrobot's playground impressions coming off well, Demon Souls, Sackboy, Miles all looking great. Bugsnax free day 1 in addition to Astrobot, a whole bunch of PS4 games getting patched for free PS5 ultimate editions at launch or in the first month. PS+ Collection of 20+ free games if you don't have some of them (I have basically all of them outside Fallout 4 [who wants without mods?] and COD Blops 3). If you don't have a super up to date PC gaming rig, along with Xbox Series X, best versions of major 3rd party games like Watchdogs/AC Unity, Cyberpunk a month later.

What was I "nitpicking" about?  :thinking 

Oh yeah- the showcase game is a 2009 title.  Astrobot is supposed to be a couple of hours- explains why it's free.  You're gonna delete it for more space quickly enough.  Bugsnax? Sackboy?  LOL.  Come on, Bepbo.  Do those scream "top five" to you? 

And then everything else you mentioned are PS4 games (and PC, XBone, and Xbox Series games) and when it comes to BC, XBox Series X has them beat. 

Who says the PS5 has the best versions of those third party games?

And if you want the best version of Cyberpunk, why would you buy the PS4 version?

You're hyped up, and that's OK.  Revisit this once you've had the system for a bit.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on October 30, 2020, 08:47:12 PM
Cindi, I think you're way too worried about the PS5's size.  It's not large enough to be that big of a problem.  The FGC will find a way as always.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on October 30, 2020, 10:08:51 PM
it's a dammmmmmn good looking and seminal 2009 title though :lawd
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: headwalk on October 30, 2020, 10:15:27 PM
ushering in a brave new generation with a remake, an expansion pack and some shite scraped from the wii u launch cutting room floor.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on October 30, 2020, 10:21:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIqlu4sm5OQ
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on October 30, 2020, 10:25:31 PM
ushering in a brave new generation with a remake, an expansion pack and some shite scraped from the wii u launch cutting room floor.

well, it sold this sucker on a launch console. something I havent cared to do since I was a wee lad.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 30, 2020, 10:41:42 PM
ushering in a brave new generation with a remake, an expansion pack and some shite scraped from the wii u launch cutting room floor.
I don't know why calling DS a remake is supposed to be a dig. The game looks to be a pretty big overall and is also possibly the most impressive looking game graphically.  Like this dosen't look like some some simple "remaster" and looks even beyond what they did with the Shadow Remake. It's also a game that's uniquely stuck on the PS3 and one many have missed. It will also probably be a meaty game that will live beyond simply being a launch title.

So yes, I see no problem ushering in next gen with a impressive looking remake of one of the best games of recent times. A remake like this is a new game.

It's better then what Xbox is offering which is nothing.


Oh, it's play these old games you already have.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on October 30, 2020, 10:51:39 PM
A remake like this is a new game.

Does it have new content or play differently?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 30, 2020, 10:56:33 PM
Does it need too?

Was Twin Snakes not a new game when it came out?

Is that new Panzer Dragoon on the Switch not a new game?

I have the Rob Zombie Halloween on my halloween playlist for tomorrow, was that not a new movie when it came out?

Is VII Remake not a new game?

Are RE2/3,1 Remakes not new games?

Anything that is more then a remaster aka taking the original and just cleaning it up is a new thing to me. Something being a Remake is not of lesser value to me.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: headwalk on October 30, 2020, 10:58:15 PM
A remake like this is a new game.

Does it have new content or play differently?

no, but it has a brand new seventy quid price tag.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 30, 2020, 11:00:03 PM
Remake worthwhile or not, its better then whatever MS is offering.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on October 30, 2020, 11:01:18 PM
I'm legit asking if it has new content or game play.  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on October 30, 2020, 11:03:34 PM
Was Twin Snakes not a new game when it came out?

Is that new Panzer Dragoon on the Switch not a new game?

Is VII Remake not a new game?

Are RE2/3,1 Remakes not new games?

Anything that is more then a remaster aka taking the original and just cleaning it up is a new thing to me. Something being a Remake is not of lesser value to me.

Everything you just mentioned had either new game play elements and/or content.  I was under the impression that Demon's Souls is literally the same game with improved graphics.  All I can find is Blue Point teasing new stuff, but not saying what it is.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 30, 2020, 11:13:57 PM
PD is pretty much the same game, hell it plays worse and looks worse aesthetically.

Twin Snakes was pretty much MGS1 just put into MGS2's engine. Yes I guess there were new useless gameplay elements, but the map, story, enemies, and even most of the script were the same.

RE3 plays differently, but most fans would say its a much less ambitious game then the original.

But the reason I stressed that it's more then a remaster, because while you can just say "improved graphics" I feel like that's selling it pretty short. It's the best looking PS5 game and we are talking about graphics, animation, geometry, texture work, and effects well beyond the PS3 original. This is'nt improved graphics like FFXII The Zodiac Age or numerous "Definitive Editions". This is beyond "we cleaned up stuff and it's running at higher resolution". It's a complete recreation. Now it seems to be a very faithful and true recreation. Which I'm not always a fan of in remakes, but I think in this case would upset people if it wasn't. Recreating is an approach you can take with remakes and that seems to be what Blupoint likes to do.

It playing the same or having the same content with completely remade and new visuals seems enought to me be worthwhile. If its not for you, well thats you I guess.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 30, 2020, 11:16:38 PM
For someone like me who never played the original, it's ALL new content.  :rejoice
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on October 30, 2020, 11:17:44 PM
I'm legit asking if it has new content or game play.  :lol

afaik they've kept everything as close to the original as possible except they changed the camera to be more modern and they reckon they didn't expand upon the broken archstone/cut Northern limits map because it's "not their right" to reimagine that which is p disappointing. anyway, who cares, ywah it's pretty much predominantly a graphical overhaul w a lot of qol improvements.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: mormapope on October 30, 2020, 11:22:14 PM
I'm legit asking if it has new content or game play.  :lol

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Camera options are in
4K/30fps is called Cinematic
Performance mode is "dynamic" 4K at 60fps
Old Monk fight remains unchanged
Loading times are insane, virtually no load times
Multiplayer is 6 people now
They did discuss doing the sixth Archstone - decided against it as they didn't feel it was their right
Fractured Mode is Mirror Mode
Photo Mode is in. Disabled if you're invaded
Boletaria was the most challenging to rebuild as well as Valley of Defilement
Magic is still broken and exploitable (easy platinum!)

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/demons-souls-ps5-fractured-mode-respec-world-tendency-details/1100-6483887/

Sounds like technical and visual improvements across the board obviously. Gameplay wise, seems to be unchanged.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on October 30, 2020, 11:22:55 PM
they haven't even rebalanced how op magic is and avoided a question on whether the scraping spear had been nerfed. personally, sounds sick, but man scrubs are gonna get griefed so bad

 :delicious
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on October 30, 2020, 11:27:15 PM
in terms of basic design does seem a lil lame not to fix some of the glaring balance issues with the original. the metagame is gonna be broke from day 1
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on October 30, 2020, 11:28:18 PM
PD is pretty much the same game, hell it plays worse and looks worse aesthetically.

They patched the game and it's now 60 FPS with added control options.

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Twin Snakes was pretty much MGS1 just put into MGS2's engine. Yes I guess there were new useless gameplay elements, but the map, story, enemies, and even most of the script were the same.

This was a remake through and through- completely redone from the ground up with new gameplay and even some of the cut scenes were different.

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RE3 plays differently, but most fans would say its a much less ambitious game then the original.

The above applies to the RE2 and RE3 remakes.

But the reason I stressed that it's more then a remaster, because while you can just say "improved graphics" I feel like that's selling it pretty short. It's the best looking PS5 game and we are talking about graphics, animation, geometry, texture work, and effects well beyond the PS3 original. This is'nt improved graphics like FFXII The Zodiac Age or numerous "Definitive Editions". This is beyond "we cleaned up stuff and it's running at higher resolution". It's a complete recreation. Now it seems to be a very faithful and true recreation. Which I'm not always a fan of in remakes, but I think in this case would upset people if it wasn't. Recreating is an approach you can take with remakes and that seems to be what Blupoint likes to do.

It playing the same or having the same content with completely remade and new visuals seems enought to me be worthwhile. If its not for you, well thats you I guess.

https://www.polygon.com/interviews/2020/10/29/21539158/demons-souls-ps5-remake-changes-sixth-archstone-world-tendency

Getting the answers I was looking for. (EDIT- Thanks also, Morma!)  Interesting that if you want to play this at 4K 60 FPS, it's dynamic resolution.  Native 4K is 30 FPS.  No new worlds.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: mormapope on October 30, 2020, 11:31:55 PM
in terms of basic design does seem a lil lame not to fix some of the glaring balance issues with the original. the metagame is gonna be broke from day 1

Has there been a Souls game to date that didn't have glaring balance issues with PvP? I've only beaten Dark Souls 1&2, and I hated PvP in both of those.

My greatclub wielding melee only build? Fucking useless against someone that has homing magic spells, along with super buffs, debuffs, and the best PvP weapons in stacks.

The solution becomes playing in offline mode and never invading anybody.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 30, 2020, 11:34:59 PM
A remake can be a 1:1 translation, make slight changes, or something thats more of an adaptation.

This is a remake that is a 1:1 translation. That dosen't make it less of a remake. You guys are acting like it is a simple as they took the PS3 game and just upped the visuals(a remaster). It's clearly more then that even if they opted to keep the gameplay the same.

And also in Souls case, I don't think the fans would want the gameplay changed.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on October 30, 2020, 11:36:32 PM
For someone like me who never played the original, it's ALL new content.  :rejoice

I'm with you on that!  It's the same for me with a number of those Wii and Wii U Switch ports. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on October 30, 2020, 11:39:53 PM
in terms of basic design does seem a lil lame not to fix some of the glaring balance issues with the original. the metagame is gonna be broke from day 1

Has there been a Souls game to date that didn't have glaring balance issues with PvP? I've only beaten Dark Souls 1&2, and I hated PvP in both of those.

My greatclub wielding melee only build? Fucking useless against someone that has homing magic spells, along with super buffs, debuffs, and the best PvP weapons in stacks.

The solution becomes playing in offline mode and never invading anybody.

in ds3 every playstyle had a fairly playable set of builds, but u def had to use buffs and only a few weps were viable. u can't just expect to do OK not playing meta if you're playing pvp
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on October 31, 2020, 12:35:35 AM
Bork, I get it. This particular lineup of PS5 games doesn't cater to your tastes. Everyone likes different stuff and the PS5 lineup isn't the most varied like some past consoles got.

If they were launching with an exclusive fighting game, musou game and some kinda of  :jgames  game I'm sure you'd be more interested in the PS5, and that's fine. There's no rush to get new systems, just get them when they have the kind of games you want on them.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on October 31, 2020, 03:24:23 AM
equating Nintendo port dumps with a full remake

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Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 31, 2020, 06:00:09 AM
Why put effort into a full remake when you can dump a emulated rom on the market and sell the same amount of copies as the full remake would have :money :miyamoto
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on October 31, 2020, 06:09:29 AM
I'm legit asking if it has new content or game play.  :lol

Pretty much none, other than the expanded multiplayer, now up to 3v3 from 1v1, so they basically made it more like Dark Souls.

The way BP do their remasters is that they port a barebone version of the engine and add shiny modern stuff on top. So basically they have 2 engines running, or something. That's why the gameplay looks eerily similar to the OG - same for SotC.

They didn't add the 6th archstone, because they felt it wasn't their right to do so. Which is fair enough in a way I guess.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on October 31, 2020, 06:18:24 AM
I'm legit asking if it has new content or game play.  :lol
It does not

Its got a ruined ost tho
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on October 31, 2020, 01:39:50 PM
Bork, I get it. This particular lineup of PS5 games doesn't cater to your tastes. Everyone likes different stuff and the PS5 lineup isn't the most varied like some past consoles got.

If they were launching with an exclusive fighting game, musou game and some kinda of  :jgames  game I'm sure you'd be more interested in the PS5, and that's fine. There's no rush to get new systems, just get them when they have the kind of games you want on them.

Thanks for pointing out the obvious...?  You didn't actually respond to my post, but that's OK.  I think "wait and see how you feel post-launch" is the best way to look at things anyway.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on October 31, 2020, 02:15:44 PM
Gameplay wise, seems to be unchanged.
I think that's fine. I'm good with different camera options, omni-directional rolling and small QoL changes. I would have been ok with more substantial changes too but I think those asking for a more wide sweeping overhaul really just want a sequel.

I still remember the crazies after bluepoint released their version of SotC, which was an excellent update to the original imo, complaining about how the lack of blown out bloom and non-whimsical birds ruined the aesthetic of the PS2 game. For every person wanting major changes, there is some dumb "life-long fan", muh nostalgia asshole that wants a perfect recreation with zero gameplay or art changes. Just as an example, some DeS fans hated the new Flamelurker design and bluepoint went back and changed it (https://www.reddit.com/r/demonssouls/comments/jkaneq/a_sidebyside_comparison_of_flamelurkers_redesign/). I don't envy the devs forced to walk the tightrope of updating these titles for modern audiences without pissing of the hyper conservative, rose-colored glasses wearing super fans.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on October 31, 2020, 02:18:38 PM
They are adding some items to Demon Souls.. and locking some of them behind the $90 edition lol

I'm excited for it because I never played the original.. so it might as well be a brand new AAA next-gen open world title to me.

Open world  :confused
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Beezy on October 31, 2020, 02:18:49 PM
There's no other reason to get the $500 PS5 if you don't care about collecting physical media, right?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on October 31, 2020, 02:32:25 PM
Don't seem like it. Should be the same machine just without a disc drive.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on October 31, 2020, 02:42:21 PM
They are adding some items to Demon Souls.. and locking some of them behind the $90 edition lol

I'm excited for it because I never played the original.. so it might as well be a brand new AAA next-gen open world title to me.

Open world  :confused

I know it's not an Ubisoft mission/collectathon but doesn't it have like a hub world and different areas you can explore in any order?

It has numbered levels like Mario.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on October 31, 2020, 03:23:44 PM
There's no other reason to get the $500 PS5 if you don't care about collecting physical media, right?

You'll have more options for getting games cheaper as physical releases tend to go on sale much quicker or get dumped for lower prices compared to PSN.  The console resale value will likely be lower, too, if you care about that. 

But I'd still just go with the digital one if you're fine with buying everything from PSN.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on October 31, 2020, 04:59:46 PM
There's no other reason to get the $500 PS5 if you don't care about collecting physical media, right?

Ya.

Disc PS5 is way uglier and more expensive.

But if you have a big library of PS4 discs and you might sell your PS4 or it breaks down the line, disc PS5 is good for that.

Also disc PS5 plays blu-ray movies. It also functions as a DVD player too from googling around. I don't have any physical media movie players besides PS4 hooked up so that is a plus for me if I'm gonna unplug the PS4.


My brother buys all games digital and is getting disc PS5 just because he only has room for one machine hooked up at a time and needs a blu-ray player.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Beezy on October 31, 2020, 06:40:03 PM
Agreed that the disc PS5 is much uglier. I have like 4 PS4 games on disc and everything else is digital. I'm ready to be done with physical media on everything except Nintendo consoles since they can't be trusted.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 31, 2020, 08:27:23 PM
I hope the 4K Blu Ray player is decent on the 5. I believe it dosent support Dolby Vision at this moment which sucks, but my One X’s disc drive has always been weirdly shit. New 4K Discs often skip. While I have started to embrace physical more and more, the realization of moving hasn’t set it and I still like having movies and at least PlayStation games on physical forum.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on October 31, 2020, 09:41:18 PM
Oh yeah I forgot it's a 4k blu-ray player. I still don't have a 4k tv, but will be nice for that at some point.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 01, 2020, 12:54:45 AM
there's a funny lil boutique vid store next to my apartment that stocks a bunch of 4k blu rays. p keen to check out the quality vs streamed / ripped 4k content. got some new mordaunt short speakers and atacama stands as rears for proper surround sound in prep too, and my flatmate of 5 years is finally moving out so I can jam games at a decent volume whenever I want in the nud  :rejoice

gonna relish this "terrible" deso remake score in all its glory.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: The Sceneman on November 01, 2020, 01:32:13 AM
let me know when u get da PSPentiple and I'll come over to play "terrible" games :punch
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on November 01, 2020, 05:35:55 AM
The biggest appeal of the console right now is to have a new toy during the next lockdown in my country  :mysterio
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 01, 2020, 06:48:28 AM
My favourite thing about 4k movies is that like half of em are upscaled. Sounds like a complete waste.

Just like me getting a tv that supports all the modern nonsense and it's basically a case by case basis on what actually supports that shit.

4K/120hz. Yeah right.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on November 01, 2020, 07:48:25 AM
It depends on your TV I guess but on my LG OLED every 4K HDR movie is an absolute blast to watch.
Movies like The Dark Knight, Dunkirk. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, The Joker, John Wick etc. look better than they do in theaters and there's some fantastic remastering done on titles like The Matrix, Blade Runner, The Hunt for Red October older Mission Impossible films etc. .

Strangely enough the effect is less impressive on Marvel or some DC movies where they didn't render the special effects in 4k.
It's the best movie experience possible at home and my TV also upscales 1080p far better than any console does so even the better looking Switch games like Mario Kart 8 and Zelda hardly have any anti-aliasing issues.

If you're looking for a TV simply go with an LG OLED with the Technicolor Expert setting. There's nothing better.
My LG set also supports both HDR10+ and Dolby Vision so it doesn't really matter what becomes the standard.
I'm not sure if 8k will be a thing, probably eventually but that's the point where it only really works on the biggest screens.
In the end the best resolution depends on the size of your screen. Everything above 42" and 4K/HDR OLED is  :lawd

4K / HDR Blu Rays also look tons better and most of all more consistent than 4k streaming from Netflix or Disney. I'm often surprised at how poor some 4k content is delivered (heavily compressed).

Trust me, once you can rediscover your content on such a good screen, you wish the lockdown lasted longer  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 01, 2020, 08:02:37 AM
You're full of shit. Loads of 4K blu-rays are literally not 4K.

What you are seeing is the quality of the tv. Not the 4k blu-ray.

https://www.digiraw.com/DVD-4K-Bluray-ripping-service/4K-UHD-ripping-service/the-real-or-fake-4K-list/ (https://www.digiraw.com/DVD-4K-Bluray-ripping-service/4K-UHD-ripping-service/the-real-or-fake-4K-list/)

What a fucking shitshow.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Coax on November 01, 2020, 08:14:42 AM
You're full of shit. Loads of 4K blu-rays are literally not 4K.

What you are seeing is the quality of the tv. Not the 4k blu-ray.

I mean, every one of the films he mentioned is native 4K. Besides, even upscaled 2K when done correctly for a release preserves more of the original quality since 1080P is smaller than the resolution used for 2K-shot films, in addition to the the doubling of the chroma sub-sampling at 4K (in 1080P you're getting half the resolution of some channels) and the increase in bitrate and use of HEVC.

Nintex also benefits from having the ideal display for HDR since OLED has per-pixel brightness unlike other local dimming solutions (FALD or edge-lit).
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 01, 2020, 08:18:50 AM
What ammount of PS5 games do you think will actually use 4K/120?
Which ones will actually use HDR?
Will the HDR work while using VRR or 120hz?
Sony's own tvs don't even have proper Dolby Vision.
Will the HDR support from the consoles conflict with HDR chip in your tv?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Coax on November 01, 2020, 08:48:34 AM
What ammount of PS5 games do you think will actually use 4K/120?
Which ones will actually use HDR?
Will the HDR work while using VRR or 120hz?
Sony's own tvs don't even have proper Dolby Vision.
Will the HDR support from the consoles conflict with HDR chip in your tv?

Any console marketing ('up to') 4K @ 120Hz will be for specific titles they tested obvs, whether upcoming gen or even backwards compatible ones. Also part of it is the fact that HDMI 2.1 supports that combo. Actually having consistent new and demanding titles at that res and refresh rate would all depend on settings. It's been more feasible on PC since one can tweak whatever though there are also many less demanding titles that can easily run like that.

As for Dolby Vision support on Sony TVs I'm not familiar but DV isn't necessary for displaying HDR from any Ultra HD Blu-Ray at least since all titles support HDR10 (some don't even see much of a difference with DV comparatively, there's a whole thread on Blu-Ray.com about this).
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on November 01, 2020, 08:52:31 AM
What ammount of PS5 games do you think will actually use 4K/120?
Which ones will actually use HDR?
Will the HDR work while using VRR or 120hz?
Sony's own tvs don't even have proper Dolby Vision.
Will the HDR support from the consoles conflict with HDR chip in your tv?
HDR was already executed quite well on the Xbox One X and PlayStation 4 Pro starting with Assassins Creed Origins and Forza. I suspect that nearly all big releases will support HDR in some form, considering they already do on PS4.
4K/120 is a different beast. 4k/30 or 4k/60 will be more common for single player games. I've never had an HDR conflict on the console or streaming side.
The only issue is indeed support for certain standards but there's not a whole lot of Dolby Vision content out there. Most is HDR10 or HDR10+. Most Dolby Vision stuff is on Netflix and it's all TV shows.

You are right that there are lots of 4k blu-ray's not 4k, like Marvel and other heavy CG films, simply because they didn't render the CG in 4k.
You'll find that most movies that rely less on CG are native 4k. For me it has certainly been worth the investment for some of my favorite films.
Prices are also starting to come down a bit.

I have a 120hz IPS PC monitor but honestly I never thought that was such a big deal. The biggest benefit is less lag for competitive gaming and very fast games like racing titles or something like DOOM Eternal looks more fluid.
In 'slower' games like Battlefield 5, Witcher 3 or Deus Ex: MD I never noticed much difference. Overall, ever since screen tearing was fixed and G-Sync and Freesync came to the scene I haven't had any complaints about image quality in PC gaming in general.
Same goes for Xbox One X. With that machine though, the framerate doesn't hold up in all games. The latest Tomb Raider had gorgeous HDR effects but the framerate would occasionally tank.

Right now, I'm upgrading my PC first both for #WFH and because while it 'works' I can tell that my Intel 4th gen just isn't made with things like VR in mind and holds my RTX 2070 Super back. I could never get HDR to work on it either.
It held up extremely well for 6+ years though. Hopefully I can set-up my PC in a way that PC gaming on the TV is less of a hassle and otherwise I'll pick up a next gen gaming box next year when there's actual next gen games.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 01, 2020, 10:09:00 AM
Sony confirms that PSVR support for PS5 games is not happening.

https://www.techradar.com/news/psvr-2-wont-arrive-anytime-soon-according-to-sony
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In an interview with The Washington Post, Sony Interactive Entertainment CEO Jim Ryan stated that although PlayStation believes in VR, fans of virtual reality will be waiting at least a couple of years before a successor to the PSVR arrives.

"I think we're more than a few minutes from the future of VR," Ryan said. "PlayStation believes in VR. Sony believes in VR, and we definitely believe at some point in the future, VR will represent a meaningful component of interactive entertainment.

"Will it be this year? No. Will it be next year? No. But will it come at some stage? We believe that. And we're very pleased with all the experience that we've gained with PlayStation VR, and we look forward to seeing where that takes us in the future."

https://www.techradar.com/news/virtual-hopes-dashed-sony-has-no-plans-to-make-psvr-compatible-with-ps5-games

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For the second time in 24 hours, Sony has crushed the hopes of PSVR fans hoping for new VR experiences on the upcoming PS5 console.

After suggesting that the PSVR 2 is at least a couple of years away, Sony has now confirmed that upcoming VR releases for Hitman 3 and No Man's Sky will only be available if you buy and play the PS4 version of the games.

Speaking with UploadVR, a Sony rep said that PSVR on the PS5 is only backwards compatible, and that “We have not announced PS5 titles for PS VR.”
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on November 01, 2020, 10:38:14 AM
I guess they'll wait and see if the Quest 2 is a hit or not gaming wise.
It sorta feels like the ship has sailed for VR devices tethered to consoles and PC's though outside of the high-end segment.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 01, 2020, 10:43:19 AM
That's unfortunate, but to be expected.  I'm down for upgrading to PSVR2, but as of now, I can't imagine jumping on it Day 1.  I love VR, but I'll wait on a price drop for it.... Unless they launch it at $200 or something crazy good like that.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 01, 2020, 03:04:58 PM
Finally found some info on the character creator in Demon's Souls and whether they improved on it in any way....

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"What we have done is we've updated the character creator and we've given thousands upon thousands of new permutations where you can create and you can play," Moore said. "And then once you've chosen a character, what you can do is, after you've paid a number of souls for it, in the Nexus you can actually kind of store your character and then go in and change your character in the Nexus. So that's the quick interpretation of it, I guess."
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/demons-souls-ps5-remake-lets-you-save-and-store-characters/1100-6483883/

Music to my ears  :rejoice
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 01, 2020, 03:22:55 PM
The VR stuff is a mess and I don't think the left hand is talking to the right hand at Sony right now as they are focused on the launch.

I think over the next year they'll get their act together on supporting the existing VR hardware (which fully functions on PS5 with the camera adapter) until VR2 comes out.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 01, 2020, 03:26:26 PM
The VR stuff is a mess and I don't think the left hand is talking to the right hand at Sony right now as they are focused on the launch.

I think over the next year they'll get their act together on supporting the existing VR hardware (which fully functions on PS5 with the camera adapter) until VR2 comes out.

It fully functions for PS4 games only and will not work with PS5 controllers- it's a safe bet to assume that PSVR is soon joining the "legacy hardware" family alongside PS3 3D and the Vita.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 01, 2020, 03:54:24 PM
The VR stuff is a mess and I don't think the left hand is talking to the right hand at Sony right now as they are focused on the launch.

I think over the next year they'll get their act together on supporting the existing VR hardware (which fully functions on PS5 with the camera adapter) until VR2 comes out.

It fully functions for PS4 games only and will not work with PS5 controllers- it's a safe bet to assume that PSVR is soon joining the "legacy hardware" family alongside PS3 3D and the Vita.
The Move controllers are pretty dated tech by now (maybe not to Nintendo's standards :dice).  I wouldn't blame them limiting it to PS4 VR.   If they kept PS5 VR games tethered to it, that'd be sad. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 01, 2020, 04:15:20 PM
yeah, they'd need those stupid lights on the ps5 controllers for it to work properly no?

very glad they're not supporting that legacy hardware. ps4 vr is already extremely dated, a lot better to move on as supporting specific relatively niche legacy hardware like that is a lot more trouble than it's worth and kinda gimps future dev. still, for it's time it was good and did the most of any headset so far for further adoption of vr.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 01, 2020, 04:17:30 PM
Yeah, I sure did'nt want the current PSVR to be what was going to bE used for PS5. I mean it sucks that at some point you're going to spend another $250-$300 for another headset, but thats the nature of the beast. But I sure want a new and improved PSVR for PS5.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 01, 2020, 04:21:37 PM
it was p incredible to me they did it at all, and it still is a fun piece of tech but that first gen of vr has dated fast. it would be embarrassing to be promoting new ps4 vr games for ps5.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 01, 2020, 04:24:20 PM
The VR stuff is a mess and I don't think the left hand is talking to the right hand at Sony right now as they are focused on the launch.

I think over the next year they'll get their act together on supporting the existing VR hardware (which fully functions on PS5 with the camera adapter) until VR2 comes out.

It fully functions for PS4 games only and will not work with PS5 controllers- it's a safe bet to assume that PSVR is soon joining the "legacy hardware" family alongside PS3 3D and the Vita.

I think you're confused. VR has nothing to do with controllers.

PSVR headset works on PS5, no question. Right now there are no PS5 games that support PSVR. I expect that to change once they get a few patches in and work out an incompatibility issues. It's just not a high priority for Sony right now. Having a stable launch system is getting their priority.

They already said PSVR will work with PS5 and PSVR2 isn't coming out for at least another year if not two years. Meanwhile there will be new VR games that get released in 2021/2022, I'm 100% sure they will be playable on PS5 using the existing PSVR hardware until there is a PSVR2.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 01, 2020, 04:37:45 PM
I think what bork is saying is that PS5 versions won't work with the PSVR. Like if there was a native version of say Star Wars Squadrons. It would'nt have VR and you'd have to buy the PS4 version. Just like with the upcoming Hitman 3. The PS5 version will not have VR. You'd have to get the PS4 version and play that on PS5 to get VR.

And it's possibly because the PSVR tracks the lights with the camera.

And when they do have PSVR2 hopefully it is wireless and dosen't do that. I hope it's as easy at the Quest 2.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 01, 2020, 04:38:38 PM
don't a bunch of games use the controller lights for tracking? hence, you'd need to use a ps4 controller on ps5 for psvr bc titles. idk, thinking about it, the lighttracking on the controller is prob not important considering it's mostly just tracking the headset.

i never played any vr titles with the move controllers, just what worked with the reg controller.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 01, 2020, 05:13:56 PM
I think what bork is saying is that PS5 versions won't work with the PSVR. Like if there was a native version of say Star Wars Squadrons. It would'nt have VR and you'd have to buy the PS4 version. Just like with the upcoming Hitman 3. The PS5 version will not have VR. You'd have to get the PS4 version and play that on PS5 to get VR.

Correct- this is what the article confirms.  One "workaround" here, when applicable, is to buy the PS4 version of a game (digital) that offers the PS5 version as a free upgrade, like Hitman is supposed to, so you at least get both versions for the price of one.

The VR stuff is a mess and I don't think the left hand is talking to the right hand at Sony right now as they are focused on the launch.

I think over the next year they'll get their act together on supporting the existing VR hardware (which fully functions on PS5 with the camera adapter) until VR2 comes out.

It fully functions for PS4 games only and will not work with PS5 controllers- it's a safe bet to assume that PSVR is soon joining the "legacy hardware" family alongside PS3 3D and the Vita.

I think you're confused. VR has nothing to do with controllers.

PSVR headset works on PS5, no question. Right now there are no PS5 games that support PSVR. I expect that to change once they get a few patches in and work out an incompatibility issues. It's just not a high priority for Sony right now. Having a stable launch system is getting their priority.

They already said PSVR will work with PS5 and PSVR2 isn't coming out for at least another year if not two years. Meanwhile there will be new VR games that get released in 2021/2022, I'm 100% sure they will be playable on PS5 using the existing PSVR hardware until there is a PSVR2.

No, they confirmed that PSVR will only work on PS5 with the camera adapter and then using only PS4 or Move controllers- PS5 controllers will not work.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2020/10/10/playstation-vr-is-backward-compatible-on-ps5-but-theres-a-catch/?sh=25f8498d176c
https://uploadvr.com/editorial-psvr-on-ps5/

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More confusing is the approach to getting PSVR running on PS5. Sony’s flashy new HD Camera, launching alongside the console in November, doesn’t support PSVR tracking. To use the headset, you have to plug in the PS4-era camera. Only you can’t do that without a special adapter. You have to apply to get one here and it’s only one per household, though it will be shipped free of charge. Even then, you can’t use the PSVR with the new DualSense controller – you have to use your old DualShock 4 and PlayStation Moves, which in turn won’t support new PS5 games.

Then there’s the awkward topic of cross-generation games, which has proved to be a thorn in PSVR’s side these past few months. Both Hitman 3 and No Man’s Sky are releasing full, native PS5 editions soon. On PS4, both games support optional PSVR content. But, as we finally confirmed this week, neither game can integrate PSVR support on PS5.

That’s right, if you want to play these two titles in VR, you have to use the downgraded versions.

This puts PSVR owners in a strangely awkward position. If you want to play No Man’s Sky on PS5 in VR, you’ll need to install the older version of the game on your console, so you won’t be getting all the shiny new updates like enhanced graphics. Free next-gen upgrades mitigate the pain of this somewhat, but it’s a needlessly bizarre situation all the same. What if someone buys Hitman 3 on PS5 expecting to play in VR, only to find they needed the PS4 version? Will there be a downgrade scheme in place for this situation too? We still don’t have answers for that.

All of this, combined with the recent closure of Sony’s VR-focused UK developer (which was working on its first, AAA PSVR game) paints a grim [icture for PSVR in the short-term. Sony Interactive Entertainment CEO Jim Ryan’s recent comments about the future of VR being “more than a few minutes” out also hit hard. We’ll likely see new PSVR games come to PS4 in 2021 beyond Hitman 3 but, for now, PS5 appears like a pretty clean break from the platform.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 01, 2020, 10:11:03 PM
I will get one of these things eventually but probably when they make a less fucking absurd looking version of them. I'm picturing stacks of launch units in the junk pile at the Hard-Off 15 years from now.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 01, 2020, 10:19:25 PM
I think what bork is saying is that PS5 versions won't work with the PSVR. Like if there was a native version of say Star Wars Squadrons. It would'nt have VR and you'd have to buy the PS4 version. Just like with the upcoming Hitman 3. The PS5 version will not have VR. You'd have to get the PS4 version and play that on PS5 to get VR.

And it's possibly because the PSVR tracks the lights with the camera.

And when they do have PSVR2 hopefully it is wireless and dosen't do that. I hope it's as easy at the Quest 2.

Yeah, I know what the current situation is.

I'm just saying I'm 100% sure they'll patch it in year 1 so new VR games will release on PS5 in 2021 and be playable on the existing PSVR hardware since there is no PSVR2 hardware yet.

They're not going to have a 1-2 year gap where all the latest VR hit games are available on every platform including PS4 but not on PS5. They're not idiots.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 01, 2020, 10:36:44 PM
I'm just saying I'm 100% sure they'll patch it in year 1 so new VR games will release on PS5 in 2021 and be playable on the existing PSVR hardware since there is no PSVR2 hardware yet.

Why would they not announce this, then?  Why tell consumers that the hardware requires an adapter, does not work with PS5 controllers, and that PS5 versions of the same games won't have VR support, then?  None of that makes any sense.

They're not going to have a 1-2 year gap where all the latest VR hit games are available on every platform including PS4 but not on PS5. They're not idiots.

Are there such things?  :doge

Anyway, they literally said exactly this and that VR is not in the cards right now.  Here it is again, from CEO Jim Ryan:

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"I think we're more than a few minutes from the future of VR," Ryan said. "PlayStation believes in VR. Sony believes in VR, and we definitely believe at some point in the future, VR will represent a meaningful component of interactive entertainment.

"Will it be this year? No. Will it be next year? No. But will it come at some stage? We believe that. And we're very pleased with all the experience that we've gained with PlayStation VR, and we look forward to seeing where that takes us in the future."

This reads very much like him saying that they're done with VR for now.  I don't see any other way to interpret that.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 01, 2020, 11:35:39 PM
Bork do you have a PSVR?

The headset does not relate to the controllers at all. It's essentially another television. That's like saying a controller won't work with your tv. The PS5 controller doesn't play PS5 VR games because there are no PS5 VR games. Hell there's only like 15 PS5 games total in existence in the next month or two.

Sony's started time and time again that VR is a big deal for them. Pretty sure they're still the #1 leader of the VR market. They're not going to give that up and walk away.

They already have shown that PSVR2 is in development and will of course be PS5 compatible. They didn't want to release PSVR2 at PS5 launch because then PS5 would cost $1,000 or something together and they're trying to keep the price down and focus on getting in as many households as they can. There's a bunch of patents already leaked for the new VR controllers which look essentially like Index.

PSVR2 launch is either next year or 2022. All 1st party PSVR games in development at this point are probably for the PSVR2 so there likely won't be any 1st party games during this gap.

And yes, there are big VR hits. VR is a large market, you should give it a try.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: mormapope on November 01, 2020, 11:40:57 PM
I don't doubt there could be light info about the next VR headset from Sony, but searching for it.....brings up next to nothing. :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 01, 2020, 11:49:34 PM
I don't doubt there could be light info about the next VR headset from Sony, but searching for it.....brings up next to nothing. :doge

https://uploadvr.com/new-psvr-controllers-patent-index/

From about a month ago. There's also been patents related to various VR rending stuff that is like the Index and makes a lot of people think PSVR2 will be wireless like Quest.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: TEEEPO on November 02, 2020, 12:35:57 AM
You're full of shit. Loads of 4K blu-rays are literally not 4K.

What you are seeing is the quality of the tv. Not the 4k blu-ray.

https://www.digiraw.com/DVD-4K-Bluray-ripping-service/4K-UHD-ripping-service/the-real-or-fake-4K-list/ (https://www.digiraw.com/DVD-4K-Bluray-ripping-service/4K-UHD-ripping-service/the-real-or-fake-4K-list/)

What a fucking shitshow.

it's not really a shit show. there's a lot of variables at play but it isn't uncommon for 2K UHD rips to look more impressive than a "real 4K" rip and your TV more than likely isn't going to be using any of its algorithms to touch up the image on a 2K digital intermediate upscaled to 4K as the studios have passed through the transfer using more complex upscaling techniques than your television is capable of doing

and let me reemphasize that there's a lot at play in every transfer, an example being the first John Wick was filmed in 2.8K but finished at 4K while John Wick 3 was filmed in 3.2K but finished in 2K. guess which looks better? and a 35mm film transfer with a 4k digital intermediate isn't the same as a film shot on 4k with a 4k digital intermediate as film doesn't exactly transfer 1:1 when digitally scanned.

not to mention the resolution isn't the most important part of a UHD film; it's the wider color gamut and dynamic range provided by the 10-bit signal

UHD is fucking awesome
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 02, 2020, 12:38:22 AM
Bork do you have a PSVR?

The headset does not relate to the controllers at all. It's essentially another television. That's like saying a controller won't work with your tv. The PS5 controller doesn't play PS5 VR games because there are no PS5 VR games. Hell there's only like 15 PS5 games total in existence in the next month or two.

That doesn't make sense when the PS5 controllers work with all other PS4 games. 

There are no PS5 VR games because there is no PS5 VR, period-- the current model does not work with the PS5 and I am sure they are doing this on purpose to get people to fork out money for another model.  If the current PSVR is going to get PS5 games later on, why would they not say this?  There is no reason for them not to announce that games are in development and that the controller will work later on. 

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PSVR2 launch is either next year or 2022. All 1st party PSVR games in development at this point are probably for the PSVR2 so there likely won't be any 1st party games during this gap.

No, it's not next year.  We already got confirmation on this.  Why do you continue to ignore what Jim Ryan has just recently said?  :dizzy

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And yes, there are big VR hits. VR is a large market, you should give it a try.

I've tried PSVR before and didn't care for 'low-res' 720P visuals and the games I tried, except for one- Superhot VR was pretty cool.  I certainly would not buy a PSVR and would go for something like the Oculus if I were interested.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 02, 2020, 12:40:12 AM
I don't doubt there could be light info about the next VR headset from Sony, but searching for it.....brings up next to nothing. :doge

https://uploadvr.com/new-psvr-controllers-patent-index/

From about a month ago. There's also been patents related to various VR rending stuff that is like the Index and makes a lot of people think PSVR2 will be wireless like Quest.

From the same site:

https://uploadvr.com/sony-next-gen-vr-controllers-finger-tracking/

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That said, don’t expect to see any of this work as a commercial product this year. Sony itself has warned that it’s not likely to release PSVR 2 alongside PS5. Hopefully we won’t have to wait too much longer, though. For now, check out everything we know about PSVR 2.

:dizzy
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 02, 2020, 02:36:54 AM
Are you being dense on purpose bork?

Do you think that this phrase "Sony itself has warned that it’s not likely to release PSVR 2 alongside PS5."

Means that Sony will not be releasing PSVR2 for PS5? Because I'm pretty sure that phrase means PSVR2 is not releasing at/near launch with PS5. Same with Jim Ryan's comments, you're putting words that aren't there. Nothing he said in his recent interview indicates that there isn't a PSVR2 in the works for PS5 to be announced and released in a year or so. A lot of people are putting their own interpretation into an interview that basically just said VR isn't the biggest thing ever right now, but Sony believes in VR and believes it will get there. Maybe not this year or next year, but eventually. Which is what every VR company has been saying for years since it's going to be a slow uptake because of the costs.

I'm not sure what the point of your posts about VR in this thread are. It seems like you're trying to make some sort of "look, Sony is giving up on VR like they did the Vita" thing. Which isn't true at all.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/jim-ryan-i-think-we%E2%80%99re-more-than-a-few-minutes-from-the-future-of-vr-will-it-be-this-year-no-will-it-be-next-year-no.315658/

If you want, you can read the Era thread on the article which gives all the takes you can want. Basically there is no info announced by Sony about their future plans in the entertainment space beyond November 2020's PS5 launch. There's no info about PSVR2 yet, no info about PS5 Pro/Slim yet, etc... only the CEO in one article making a vague statement that people can either interpret as "Sony gives up on PSVR" or that "Sony is still working on PSVR2 and just saying it's not coming out right after PS5 launch", until there is more information and more interviews/articles/clarification, there is no way to know 100% for sure what their plan is for VR.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 02, 2020, 07:29:17 AM
Are you being dense on purpose bork?

Is it just not possible to talk about video game stuff without being insulted?

Do you think that this phrase "Sony itself has warned that it’s not likely to release PSVR 2 alongside PS5."

Means that Sony will not be releasing PSVR2 for PS5? Because I'm pretty sure that phrase means PSVR2 is not releasing at/near launch with PS5. Same with Jim Ryan's comments, you're putting words that aren't there. Nothing he said in his recent interview indicates that there isn't a PSVR2 in the works for PS5 to be announced and released in a year or so. A lot of people are putting their own interpretation into an interview that basically just said VR isn't the biggest thing ever right now, but Sony believes in VR and believes it will get there. Maybe not this year or next year, but eventually. Which is what every VR company has been saying for years since it's going to be a slow uptake because of the costs.

I'm not sure what the point of your posts about VR in this thread are. It seems like you're trying to make some sort of "look, Sony is giving up on VR like they did the Vita" thing. Which isn't true at all.

That's exactly what I think appears to be going on based on their comments.  Not that they're giving up on VR entirely at the moment, but that the original PSVR unit is 'dead' and is clearly not their focus.  Here's another thing to consider about this- besides the PS5 controllers not working with it, you also need an adapter to use the PSVR on the first place.  An adapter that is not being sold in stores and has to be gotten after registering with Sony.  That's not the kind of move they'd be making if they were still fully behind it.

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If you want, you can read the Era thread on the article


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only the CEO in one article making a vague statement that people can either interpret as "Sony gives up on PSVR" or that "Sony is still working on PSVR2 and just saying it's not coming out right after PS5 launch"

Let's look at this again:

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"I think we're more than a few minutes from the future of VR," Ryan said. "PlayStation believes in VR. Sony believes in VR, and we definitely believe at some point in the future, VR will represent a meaningful component of interactive entertainment.

"Will it be this year? No. Will it be next year? No. But will it come at some stage? We believe that. And we're very pleased with all the experience that we've gained with PlayStation VR, and we look forward to seeing where that takes us in the future."

It very clearly states that they're not releasing anything VR-related for a while, period.  What's open to interpretation is how long this will take or if it happens at all.  Just want to make sure that's being clarified here.

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until there is more information and more interviews/articles/clarification, there is no way to know 100% for sure what their plan is for VR.

Right.  And that includes saying things like "I'm just saying I'm 100% sure they'll patch it in year 1 so new VR games will release on PS5 in 2021 and be playable on the existing PSVR hardware since there is no PSVR2 hardware yet."  Are you being dense on purpose bebpo?   :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 02, 2020, 07:44:42 AM
Demon's Souls will have a range of filters to use, including a "classic mode" which copies the washed out PS3 look.   That being said, there's a photomode in the game, which means, you can technically pause the game.  :P
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 02, 2020, 07:50:45 AM
That being said, there's a photomode in the game, which means, you can technically pause the game.  :P

Unless you get invaded, in which case you get booted out of it!
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 02, 2020, 08:00:45 AM
That being said, there's a photomode in the game, which means, you can technically pause the game.  :P

Unless you get invaded, in which case you get booted out of it!
Tro
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 02, 2020, 10:15:47 PM
You're full of shit. Loads of 4K blu-rays are literally not 4K.

What you are seeing is the quality of the tv. Not the 4k blu-ray.

https://www.digiraw.com/DVD-4K-Bluray-ripping-service/4K-UHD-ripping-service/the-real-or-fake-4K-list/ (https://www.digiraw.com/DVD-4K-Bluray-ripping-service/4K-UHD-ripping-service/the-real-or-fake-4K-list/)

What a fucking shitshow.

it's not really a shit show. there's a lot of variables at play but it isn't uncommon for 2K UHD rips to look more impressive than a "real 4K" rip and your TV more than likely isn't going to be using any of its algorithms to touch up the image on a 2K digital intermediate upscaled to 4K as the studios have passed through the transfer using more complex upscaling techniques than your television is capable of doing

and let me reemphasize that there's a lot at play in every transfer, an example being the first John Wick was filmed in 2.8K but finished at 4K while John Wick 3 was filmed in 3.2K but finished in 2K. guess which looks better? and a 35mm film transfer with a 4k digital intermediate isn't the same as a film shot on 4k with a 4k digital intermediate as film doesn't exactly transfer 1:1 when digitally scanned.

not to mention the resolution isn't the most important part of a UHD film; it's the wider color gamut and dynamic range provided by the 10-bit signal

UHD is fucking awesome


 8) bless
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on November 02, 2020, 10:32:10 PM
On the one hand, PSVR was quite successful.
On the other hand, non-portable VR just became very obsolete as a concept, given what the Quest 2 is offering, and will feel even more obsolete in a couple of years, if Facebook does another revision.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 02, 2020, 10:35:19 PM
i do really hope that Sony release a second gen vr set next year. high end pc's will always be too niche to drive the technology forward in a meaningful way, we need a device akin to the index but for powerful consoles if we hope to see more software like alyx.

consoles are an especially good place for adoption and standardization of tech like 60ghz wifi chips for low latency high bandwidth transmission. we will forever be stuck in the ghetto of expensive enthusiast hardware running cheap software if the big console players steer away from it.

On the one hand, PSVR was quite successful.
On the other hand, non-portable VR just became very obsolete as a concept, given what the Quest 2 is offering, and will feel even more obsolete in a couple of years, if Facebook does another revision.

imo, there are too many limitations to having the headset do all the rendering. i will always much rather having a dedicated headset that streams from a console like the series x or ps5 that are several orders of magnitude more powerful than anything you'll be able to put in a mobile headset for a long time, not to mention they'll always be relatively bulky and uncomfortable.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on November 02, 2020, 10:37:30 PM
That's the issue tho, Quest does both (with the Oculus link) so my point is, if they do have a PSVR2, it better work as a hybrid.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 02, 2020, 10:38:19 PM
nah, the quest link isn't that good and you still have the issue that the headset is bulkier. it becomes a problem really fast playing with that thing. it will always have it's place, but the psvr is by far the most popular vr headset of all time, and it has the best software available imo. the problem is the tech dated fast. update it to be a wireless headset you can run around your lounge with in range of your ps5 (or Series X with an official Xbox MR headset), that is lighter than a quest with image quality leaps and bounds beyond it and it will be popular af.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 02, 2020, 11:30:35 PM
I really think a wireless streaming PSVR2 could be the headset that brings great hardware and software to the medium. I'm sold theoretically on the tech, but imo it suffers from "having no games" and the hardware mostly being awkward to use (fb/oculus mostly solved this).

Imo, nearly all the hardware is ugly and awkward to use (PSVR is awkward af requiring chunky, heavy wires and line of sight with the camera), but that could be solved with strong industrial design - psvr is almost right despite a cheap build it's light and comfortable disregarding the awkward box and wires that connect it, valve index is a lot deeper/chunkier than it needs to be with an unnecessary expansion slot, vive is horrendously expensive and the controllers are kinda poop but it feels good, Quest is p awesome but imo the mobile chipset limitation is too great and/or FB don't have the chops to make a title that really grabs people (like, i won't deny it's possible because BoTW was made on a tegra x1 and is the most iconic game of the last decade, but i don't see fb ever getting anyone to make anything on their platform close to that engaging).
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Trent Dole on November 03, 2020, 02:25:47 AM
I imagine PS5 specific vr will come in time when there's more of a userbase than the day one people.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 03, 2020, 11:05:54 AM
If those patent pictures are anything to go by, I could see them releasing a standalone VR unit that also works with PS5 and maybe PC.  Or the previously-mentioned streaming wireless headset idea. 
:thinking
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 03, 2020, 02:39:15 PM
Day's Gone confirmed jumping from sub 30fps -> 60fps. Was like 10 hours in on this when I tried it this year and sorta liked it but didn't love it. Will give it another try.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 03, 2020, 02:40:29 PM
If those patent pictures are anything to go by, I could see them releasing a standalone VR unit that also works with PS5 and maybe PC.  Or the previously-mentioned streaming wireless headset idea. 
:thinking

If they do wireless there's no reason to tie it to the PS5 unless they're gonna go for streaming. Steaming might make sense though. Depends on where tech is at that point.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 03, 2020, 02:47:20 PM
Day's Gone confirmed jumping from sub 30fps -> 60fps. Was like 10 hours in on this when I tried it this year and sorta liked it but didn't love it. Will give it another try.
The second half of that game is really good. Kind of wish I would have waited now because base PS4 would chug a bit with the bigger hordes.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 03, 2020, 06:12:16 PM
If those patent pictures are anything to go by, I could see them releasing a standalone VR unit that also works with PS5 and maybe PC.  Or the previously-mentioned streaming wireless headset idea. 
:thinking

If they do wireless there's no reason to tie it to the PS5 unless they're gonna go for streaming. Steaming might make sense though. Depends on where tech is at that point.

It could be a hybrid device that has its own games, but could also connect to the PS5 for games with better visuals.  I have no idea if this is something that any other VR headsets already do with PCs or not.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 05, 2020, 09:54:32 AM
https://wccftech.com/playstation-5-no-native-1440p-support/amp/

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Previously, monitor manufacturer BenQ hinted the PS5 would support 1440p, but it seems they were mistaken.

According to IGN Italy, representatives from Sony have officially confirmed that the PS5 doesn’t support 1440p natively. Now, you’ll still be able to connect a 1440p screen to your PS5 and play games, but what you’ll most likely be getting is a 1080p signal upscaled to 1440p, which doesn’t always look great. This isn’t anything new – surprisingly, the PS4 Pro also only supported 1080p and 4K natively even though, functionally, a large number of its games ran at around 1440p.

PlayStation 5 Launch-Day Sales Will Be Online-Only, Sony Confirms

So, why does this matter? Well, if you’re strictly a couch-and-TV gamer, it probably doesn’t. The vast majority of TVs are either 1080p or 4K, with 1440p screens being exceedingly rare. That said, 1440p screens are popular amongst a subset of PC gamers, so those looking to play their PS5 games on their monitor may be in for a less-than-optimal experience.

Oh well.  There's always the mClassic adapter to get around this.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 05, 2020, 10:37:21 AM
https://youtu.be/ue6EXMWMpc4

What I love about DE; as WF has gotten bigger, the file size has gotten smaller. 
...Until this update of course. lawl
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 06, 2020, 10:04:33 AM
https://www.theverge.com/2020/11/5/21551165/sony-ps5-playstation-5-no-m2-ssd-expansion-launch

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While the PS5 features a dedicated internal slot that can theoretically fit standard stick-shaped M.2 SSDs and an easy way to access it, the slot will apparently be disabled out of the box. “[T]his is reserved for a future update,” Sony tells The Verge.

Not really an issue at launch, but worth noting.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 06, 2020, 10:05:04 AM
https://youtu.be/bKQ6NeTjccA
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 06, 2020, 10:21:17 AM
Guess I'm pretty happy I got a big PS4 game collection. BC looking pretty good this/next gen.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 06, 2020, 02:26:02 PM
He custom painted his PS5 already and says it's super-easy, since the fins pop right off without any tools needed.  So that's an option if Sony stops people from selling replacement shell pieces.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yjea4JxBX8
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 06, 2020, 03:39:32 PM
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/11/playstation-vr-tested-on-ps5-it-works-fine-but-maybe-keep-your-ps4/?amp=1

TL;DR is you're going to want a USB hub for PSVR on PS5.

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On the same day, Sony shipped a PlayStation Camera dongle (pictured above) to me as a member of the press. The dongle accepts the PS Camera's proprietary plug on one end, then feeds it to a USB Type-A 3.1 plug on the other.

The front-facing port can’t handle USB 3.1 speeds.

With this in hand, I pulled my tubby PS5 out of my entertainment center and began connecting cables. This is where I ran into my first problem. PS5 includes three USB Type-A ports, but only two of these, on the back of the console, are rated USB 3.1. (An additional front-facing USB Type-C port is rated for higher speeds, at least.) In comparison, PS4 Pro includes three USB 3.1 Type-A ports, along with a separate dedicated port for its camera.

I came to learn that the last-gen PlayStation Camera requires a USB 3.1 port—as does my external hard drive, which I currently use since PS5's 660GB of internal storage isn't enough for my entire library of next-gen, last-gen, and VR games. Neither of those devices will work plugged into the front-facing port; warning messages make clear that they require USB 3.1 speeds, which the front-facing port can't do. Thankfully, the PSVR processing box doesn't require that threshold of USB throughput.

Still, with three devices plugged in, that left me with zero USB Type-A ports left for things like charging or pairing controllers, or connecting the next-gen PlayStation HD Camera. The only way around this was to use a third-party USB Type A 3.1 hub, which thankfully could juggle two cameras, a hard drive, and the PSVR processing box.

(https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/IMG_1272-640x359.jpg)

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PSVR on PS4 had its own special menus and interface that appeared when tapping the "PlayStation" button in the middle of a game. PS5 punts this interface and relies exclusively on the newly updated PS5 menu system. This isn't a deal-breaker to us, as we've yet to notice any functional differences as a result. But if you have gotten used to older PSVR menus for any reason, you have been warned.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 06, 2020, 04:39:29 PM
https://youtu.be/bKQ6NeTjccA

 :whoo :miyamoto :ohhh :rejoice :obama

can't believe they spend minutes talking abt how good knack is   :lol

being rewarded for skipping a console gen :success
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 06, 2020, 06:36:03 PM
pretty baffling they didn't market it a little better. huge selling point for casuals and people who play a lot of games alike "get the best version of all those games you didn't get around to playing, with a bunch of them available "free" with a ps+ sub"
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Akala on November 06, 2020, 06:54:19 PM
if you skipped a gen you are coming out golden. see you in 2021  :jeb
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 07, 2020, 08:19:50 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQXBMiLSYJo
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nuitangg on November 07, 2020, 11:02:11 AM
So you can't store PS5 games on an external drive? Surely that will change.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on November 07, 2020, 11:21:18 AM
in none potat resolution:

https://youtu.be/mihNKL6rfF4
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: El Babua on November 07, 2020, 03:50:21 PM
Surprised you can't at least store PS5 games on an HDD. More than likely gonna be added in a firmware update down the line.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 07, 2020, 03:57:56 PM
It will definitely be allowed later on, but likely only with whatever drives they deem compatible.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pennywise on November 07, 2020, 04:29:08 PM
It will definitely be allowed later on, but likely only with whatever drives they deem compatible.
As storage. Not to play them from the external storage.

You can move PS4 games around from internal to external. Makes zero sense not to enable it for PS5 games as well, especially with the rather small space on the internal one.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: nudemacusers on November 07, 2020, 06:19:36 PM
in none potat resolution:

https://youtu.be/mihNKL6rfF4
looks nice but they better have kept hyper mode
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 07, 2020, 07:00:02 PM
I feel salty. It seems like everyone was able to easily pre-order these things. What did you guys do? Reload the page every second?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on November 08, 2020, 03:57:59 AM
I feel salty. It seems like everyone was able to easily pre-order these things. What did you guys do? Reload the page every second?
It's the same with all these launches. I thought I would be able to get a 5900x, CPU launches rarely sell out but they did in 5 minutes and there seems to be a big shortage of this stuff
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on November 08, 2020, 04:07:59 AM
Just get this shit next year, fuck it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 08, 2020, 11:46:36 AM
Console shipped.

 :lawd
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 08, 2020, 01:09:44 PM
Got my VR adapter via fedex. Surprised Sony's spending that Fedex shipping money on all these free adapters.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 08, 2020, 01:11:37 PM
I feel salty. It seems like everyone was able to easily pre-order these things. What did you guys do? Reload the page every second?

Part luck and part just spending hours refreshing Era thread. I'm sure Reddit or any other big site thread would work as well.

Once I saw there was any possibility that 1 place might put pre-orders up online I just sat and F5'd for 12-13 hours straight as they all came up to order.

I used to line up and EB and all that, but last few consoles I've just got from Amazon no problem by checking threads at the right time. Just been lucky.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nuitangg on November 08, 2020, 01:16:44 PM
Wal mart announced the exact time they were going up. It was a mess but took about 20 minutes to finally get checked out.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 08, 2020, 01:37:05 PM
https://youtu.be/9tikSdmJ1zM

Didn't remember that Sekiro PS4 Pro wasn't 60fps.

The Last Guardian 60fps, nice seeing that most Sony exclusives are 60fps now. 3rd party stuff you can just get that on XSX or PC, but 1st party Sony stuff getting boosted is real nice for legacy stuff.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pennywise on November 08, 2020, 02:12:00 PM
https://youtu.be/9tikSdmJ1zM

Didn't remember that Sekiro PS4 Pro wasn't 60fps.

The Last Guardian 60fps, nice seeing that most Sony exclusives are 60fps now. 3rd party stuff you can just get that on XSX or PC, but 1st party Sony stuff getting boosted is real nice for legacy stuff.

TLG at 60fps because he is playing the disc version without patching it.
The patch capped it at 30.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 08, 2020, 02:15:45 PM
TLG at 60fps because he is playing the disc version without patching it.
The patch capped it at 30.

Lol, that is some bullshit.

Wonder if they'll patch it. I've got the disc version so I guess I could always play it unpatched if I want to replay TLG at 60fps.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 08, 2020, 03:11:57 PM
Imagine going back in time to let people in 2009 know that the only stable way to play TLG would be unpatched a PS5.

 :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 08, 2020, 04:56:33 PM
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/sony-japan-has-been-sidelined-from-playstation-5s-launch-a-new-report-claims/amp/

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PlayStation’s Japan Studio, which co-developed games such as Bloodborne, Astro’s Playroom and The Last Guardian, has seen the rolling contracts of many of its creators not renewed, former employees reportedly told Bloomberg.

Japan-based developer support teams have also been reduced by as much as a third from their peak, it claimed.

 :-\
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on November 08, 2020, 05:02:07 PM
Jim Ryan: "Who plays that weeb shit anyway? When you can have cinematic experiences such as Spider-Man: Miles Morales. First old games, now Japanese games, what's next, pixel art?"  :snob

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 08, 2020, 06:06:08 PM
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/sony-japan-has-been-sidelined-from-playstation-5s-launch-a-new-report-claims/amp/

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PlayStation’s Japan Studio, which co-developed games such as Bloodborne, Astro’s Playroom and The Last Guardian, has seen the rolling contracts of many of its creators not renewed, former employees reportedly told Bloomberg.

Japan-based developer support teams have also been reduced by as much as a third from their peak, it claimed.

 :-\

fyi, Sony said this article was fake.

Article was by the same person who said they were missing PS5 production by 4 million units, which Sony also said was fake.


Source might be iffy. Will wait for other journalists to get more info on Japan Studio contracts.

I mean they just put out Astrobot's Playroom and presumably are working on Astrobot 2. Would be weird to downsize the studio rn.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 08, 2020, 08:24:44 PM
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/sony-japan-has-been-sidelined-from-playstation-5s-launch-a-new-report-claims/amp/

Quote
PlayStation’s Japan Studio, which co-developed games such as Bloodborne, Astro’s Playroom and The Last Guardian, has seen the rolling contracts of many of its creators not renewed, former employees reportedly told Bloomberg.

Japan-based developer support teams have also been reduced by as much as a third from their peak, it claimed.

 :-\

fyi, Sony said this article was fake.

Article was by the same person who said they were missing PS5 production by 4 million units, which Sony also said was fake.


Source might be iffy. Will wait for other journalists to get more info on Japan Studio contracts.

I mean they just put out Astrobot's Playroom and presumably are working on Astrobot 2. Would be weird to downsize the studio rn.

Source for this source?  I can't find anything that says this.  The same article does note this in response:

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Responding to the Bloomberg report, Sony spokeswoman Natsumi Atarashi said “our home market remains of utmost importance” and claimed that any suggestion Sony was shifting its focus away from Japan was incorrect and “doesn’t reflect the company’s strategy”.

Edit: If you're getting this from ResetEra, I saw this in their thread:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/bloomberg-japan-has-been-sidelined-in-sonys-ps5-marketing-plans-microsoft-seeking-acquisitions-in-japan.321115/page-22#post-50903776
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Takashi Mochizuki is an extremely reliable reporter in the tech/entertainment world. Only on era will you find people convinced that he has no reliable sources, by quoting three vague article out of the hundreds he reported on. Unsurprisingly, this only happens when he posts articles that aren't overwhelmingly positive about the Playstation brand.

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 08, 2020, 08:35:54 PM
Yeah, that was quote at the end of the article Sony's denial.

The analyst, Takashi Mochizuki, is the one making the claim. He is also the one that made the claim about production issues which Sony also denied a few months ago.

Either he has insider scoops at Sony, or he's reaching on some of these takes. Idk. Need more insiders.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 08, 2020, 08:36:47 PM
Yeah, that was quote at the end is their denial.

The analyst, Takashi Mochizuki, is the one making the claim. He is also the one that made the claim about production issues which Sony also denied a few months ago.

Either he has insider scoops at Sony, or he's reaching on some of these takes. Idk. Need more insiders.

There was also this:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bloomberg-japan-has-been-sidelined-in-sonys-ps5-marketing-plans-microsoft-seeking-acquisitions-in-japan.321115/#post-50834461
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    “It’s analyst consensus that PlayStation no longer sees the Japan market as important,” Morningstar Research analyst Kazunori Ito said. “If you want to know their take on the Japanese market, you need to ask about it because otherwise Sony wouldn’t talk about it.”

Quote
    “Sony’s attention is drifting away and fans have started to notice that.” said Hideki Yasuda, an analyst at Ace Research Institute in Tokyo

Quote
    Serkan Toto, a game consultant in Tokyo, said the PlayStation 5 should sell fewer units than its predecessor.

Quote
    “Many PlayStation 4 owners in Japan would eventually move to the PlayStation 5, but that would largely depend on how strong the PlayStation team in Tokyo will be in pushing the needs of Japanese customers to the American headquarters,” he said. “Considering the current power balance between the U.S. and Japan, I can’t expect much, unfortunately.”
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 08, 2020, 08:46:11 PM
Yeah, either Sony's lying or this is correct. Idk.

Sony's in-house Japan stuff was super tiny for the last 5+ years. If you don't count games they helped out on or remaster ports, and just the games they actually made. I think the only game they developed fully was Knack II?

Astrobot was by Asobi Team
Hot Shots Golf VR by Clap Hanz
Last Guardian by Ueda's Team
Demon's Souls PS5 by Bluepoint
Gravity Daze by Project Siren

Like Sony could be not lying and the article could be correct if Japan Studio is essentially a tiny developer at this point that just assists on other developers games and maybe is shrinking further?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIE_Japan_Studio

Or maybe Team Siren is going out because they have nothing after Gravity Daze 2 bombed? Asobi Team seems pretty alive right now and apparently is a western/Japanese hybrid studio.

Also Team Ueda is dead.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 08, 2020, 08:52:06 PM
From that Wiki, it looks like Japan Studio has always been mainly working with other developers on games since 1994.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 08, 2020, 10:27:33 PM
Unless Sony plans on putting out another handheld, it would be wise to shift focus to the west.

 :idont
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 09, 2020, 04:55:07 AM
p cool how its power draw is ~30% less running bc games at higher framerates than the original hardware (~100w vs 140w). dat new architecture efficiency :lawd
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 09, 2020, 02:55:03 PM
Blood & Truth for PSVR got updated to take advantage of PS5 boost mode for a better VR experience (higher framerate/textures/resolution). I'll be interested in trying it just to see how PSVR1 can look when not shackled by PS4 Pro tech. Would be good if at least the other PSVR major games got patches like this.

Unless Sony plans on putting out another handheld, it would be wise to shift focus to the west.

 :idont

But didn't they already do this last gen with PS4...that's the other thing. It's not like PS4 was prioritized in anyway and was generally seen as Sony focusing on the west.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 09, 2020, 03:50:41 PM
PSVR games are locked framerate/resolution because of VR I think. You don't want variable framerate in VR. So they all would need patches to improve.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 09, 2020, 04:10:31 PM
But didn't they already do this last gen with PS4...that's the other thing. It's not like PS4 was prioritized in anyway and was generally seen as Sony focusing on the west.
Sure, I agree. The PS4 Pro in concept was a western focused console and PS5 doubled down. I mean, its one of the largest home consoles ever released. Given how portable focused the Japanese gaming market is, it would seem to run counter to what would sell well there.

As for the Japan Studio rumor, maybe it's true? They have their fingers in a lot of pies including 2 PS5 launch titles so it would be an odd choice. Could they be shifting those resources to other places? Would this be good or bad long term? Idk.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nuitangg on November 09, 2020, 07:12:15 PM
Seriously thinking about getting Godfall.  Probably should wait for reviews.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on November 09, 2020, 07:28:42 PM
Stop shoveling cash to Randy Pitchford you fool. Only buy his shit used :pacspit
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nuitangg on November 09, 2020, 07:42:03 PM
Godfall is part of the Target buy 2 deal and some people were able to get first party games included through chat. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 09, 2020, 07:47:40 PM
i find it aesthetically gross, but it does look like it could be a fun hack'n slash looter
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 09, 2020, 07:52:44 PM
I can't even tell what kind of game Godfall is. It's like Destiny/Avengers GAAS but with swords? You just fight enemy waves/bosses in arenas with Souls-like combat?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 09, 2020, 08:41:26 PM
that's what i understand yeah. idk about "souls-like" combat though. looks more dmc, god of war/platinum esque to me
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 10, 2020, 04:43:30 PM
PS5 picked up by courier  :lawd

didn't secure a disc version of deso though. not sure if i should go try get one or just dl that shit. wouldn't be surprised if sony has issues with their servers like m$ are.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: thisismyusername on November 11, 2020, 12:12:40 AM
https://twitter.com/jeffgerstmann/status/1326384523031011331

Holy shit, how does Sony still not do Sleep right on their non-Portable consoles?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 11, 2020, 12:31:56 AM
Yeah, Sony sucks at software. They've always been a hardware company and it shows in their OS stuff.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: thisismyusername on November 11, 2020, 12:37:59 AM
Yeah, Sony sucks at software. They've always been a hardware company and it shows in their OS stuff.

Sure, but the PSP and it's little brother both did sleep mode just fine. How did the PS4 and 5 somehow fuck that up?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 11, 2020, 12:52:19 AM
Wait, what's wrong with sleep mode on PS4? I use it almost daily and haven't had any issue?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 11, 2020, 12:55:53 AM
I don't really remember lots of problems with rest mode on my PS4.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: chronovore on November 11, 2020, 01:38:49 AM
Wait, what's wrong with sleep mode on PS4? I use it almost daily and haven't had any issue?

Yeah, Rest Mode is probably my favorite feature of the PS4. On the rare occasions of playing 360 games, waiting for it to start up and connect to XBL feels interminably long now.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: brawndolicious on November 11, 2020, 01:58:10 AM
They should have just built on the PS4 OS rather than start fresh, that would also let them beta test it on the millions of PS4s out there to catch weird bugs like that.

I mean I get that it's all about having a whole new look exclusively for the next-gen but every other consumer electronic gets major OS updates these days.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: El Babua on November 11, 2020, 02:04:39 AM
It probably is an updated version of whatever BSD fork they were using on PS4. Not surprised to see launch software fucking up.

We won't ever get a console OS as open as PS3's ever again :(
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on November 11, 2020, 02:39:00 AM
Stop shoveling cash to Randy Pitchford you fool. Only buy his shit used :pacspit

Wow Nintex and I agree on something? :aah
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on November 11, 2020, 07:56:01 AM
Folks are streaming Demon Souls

https://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Demons%20Souls
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 11, 2020, 09:50:11 AM
https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/11/11/21559903/sony-playstation-5-no-browser-1440p-support-vr

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Unlike the Xbox Series X, Series S, and the One X before them, the PS5 won’t output natively to 1440p monitors, instead scaling up from 1080p. Nishino says this is because Sony wanted to focus on TV support at first, but notes that there’s no technical reason why it couldn’t be done and may be added if the company decides there’s enough demand.

If there's no reason why it can't be done...why wouldn't you add support?
:mindblown
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nuitangg on November 11, 2020, 10:17:12 AM
Enough demand  :neogaf
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 11, 2020, 11:50:32 AM
Nice to see everything's reviewing well outside Godfall.

Also Astrobot team says more Astrobot coming. Assuming it's Astrobot 2, though big question is will it be VR or not. Playroom is reviewing extremely well with lots of 9s/10s and is not VR so could see them do non-VR for wider audience.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 11, 2020, 12:04:47 PM
no money to bitchford pls brehs, daddy nintex says so
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nuitangg on November 11, 2020, 01:23:06 PM
Pitchford's wiki page is pretty interesting.  "I was only studying a magic trick"   :jared
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 11, 2020, 01:38:32 PM
It's funny because Godfall is the most fun sounding launch game to me.

I mean it looks interesting and combat games are always good, but a whollllle lot of 5/10s out there on this and that's with the launch title benefit of doubt bonus. Seems bad.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on November 11, 2020, 02:30:05 PM
Also its 70$
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on November 11, 2020, 02:36:59 PM
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Maybe there’s a world where people want to min-max all of this stuff, and maybe there are high level players who can keep all of Godfall’s combat options in their head at once and truly master combat. But I’m not sure there’s much to master, really. In my experience, nearly every fight was so easy as to be brainless, except for three that were stupidly difficult. Even then, the absence of traditional checkpoints—when you die you just pick up where you left off, though bosses will regenerate back a portion of their health—means you can just slam your face into any fight until you eventually win. Importantly, this means you don’t need to actually learn what you’re doing wrong—if you’re even doing anything wrong.

https://egmnow.com/godfall-review/

Yeah, sounds like a lot of fun
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 11, 2020, 03:04:54 PM
https://twitter.com/dark1x/status/1326614963692179456

Between Astrobot and this it's nice to have some platformers at launch.


Platformers, sandbox games and souls games. Good launch.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on November 11, 2020, 04:23:57 PM
Quote
The frame rate hitches repeatedly, including pretty much every time you pick up an item. That’s true even in combat, and I died at least once because the action had stuttered.
I encountered regular crashes back to the home screen.
Once, the game managed to completely crash my PlayStation 5 to the point the system powered off.
Gearsux  :pacspit

There's something I don't quite get about the PS5 and that is the resolution choices.
I read that the PS5 doesn't do 1440p but also that it only does 4k on 120hz in certain games and otherwise defaults to 1080p / 120hz?
Like how does that work.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: remy on November 11, 2020, 04:53:52 PM
You could tell godfall was gonna be a dud by the way they were showing so much of it but also so little, if you get me lol. If it was good we wouldn't have had all those vague, ui less "gameplay" trailers.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on November 11, 2020, 04:58:33 PM
Imagine bothering to do your job in 2020  :pacspit
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Trent Dole on November 11, 2020, 05:19:33 PM
Imagine having a job in 2020.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: remy on November 11, 2020, 05:48:37 PM
I'm not saying I'm even buying the game lol.. just doesn't sound as bad as the scores.   The entire EGM review sounds like he's making excuses for why he didn't actually bother doing his job.
Playing games for a living is hard man.

Man IDK know if I want one of these or not. New hardware is exciting and I actually do like demons souls, but my use caase for a ps5 is basically, playing ps4 games I liked that had shitty performance again and deso which again I've already played.

I also like the look of the series X better but there's nothing to play there either (maybe yakuza?)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 11, 2020, 06:10:04 PM
IIRC Godfall is also an online-only title.  So whenever they pull the plug on it, enjoy the PS5's first coaster/digital dud.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 11, 2020, 06:18:56 PM
My PS5 shipped from amazon woooo
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nuitangg on November 11, 2020, 07:15:14 PM
I regret ordering from Walmart they can't even keep anyone updated.  :maf
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nuitangg on November 11, 2020, 08:01:11 PM
Still nothing from FedEx.   :-\
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nuitangg on November 11, 2020, 08:08:18 PM
Yeah, I'm not very confident lol. Did you still have the cancel order button on Walmarts site?  I'm still able to cancel which is weird.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 11, 2020, 08:53:57 PM
got it  8)

arrived at work and we're doing one of those "work on your pet project" days so i set it up and played some astro bot lol. disc version of demon's out of stock everywhere here so i guess i'm paying $140 for the online version  :doge

that's 95usd  :-X

this is why we australasians are generally pirates.

picked up the ultimate edition of miles morales after they price matched on a good local deal. might just stick with that and try pick up a cheap copy of demon's down the line heh. such ridic pricing
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: brawndolicious on November 11, 2020, 10:28:14 PM
Quote
The frame rate hitches repeatedly, including pretty much every time you pick up an item. That’s true even in combat, and I died at least once because the action had stuttered.
I encountered regular crashes back to the home screen.
Once, the game managed to completely crash my PlayStation 5 to the point the system powered off.
Gearsux  :pacspit

There's something I don't quite get about the PS5 and that is the resolution choices.
I read that the PS5 doesn't do 1440p but also that it only does 4k on 120hz in certain games and otherwise defaults to 1080p / 120hz?
Like how does that work.

It's supposed to be patched later but basically the PS5 currently can output at 720P, 1080P, and 4K.

If you plug it into a 1440P monitor that can accept up to 1440P signal on its input, then the PS5 can output a 1080P signal that the monitor then has to upscale to 1440P.

If that monitor can accept a 4K signal on its input, then the PS5 can output a 4K signal that the monitor then has to downscale to 1440P.

So probably shouldn't use a 1440P monitor for now since monitors typically suck at scaling. Also there should be a patch later for VRR and for whatever reason, a game like DMC5 has some weirdness selecting output resolution if you don't have a 4K HDMI 2.1 display:

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2020-devil-may-cry-5-ps5-xbox-series-x-comparison

Quote
However, the fact that we can use Devil May Cry 5 as a 'benchmark' at all is mostly down to the fact that the developers have targeted 120Hz as the standard refresh rate output. This is great for seeing top-end performance metrics, but it's bad news for the experience - especially on PlayStation 5. This is because 120Hz output is locked to any screen that supports 120Hz, no matter the resolution. So consider a highly popular 4K screen - the LG OLED B8. PS5 sees that it is 120Hz-compatible, and overrides 4K resolution. All modes will run at a 120Hz refresh rate, at 1080p resolution - which is absolutely not ideal. Another popular screen is the Samsung NU8000. It's a 4K screen but on PS5, Devil May Cry will force through the 120Hz refresh rate instead, resulting in a downscale to 1440p that the user has no control over.

And this is where Xbox Series X has an advantage that's crucial. Users can simply dip into the video settings, select 60Hz and Devil May Cry 5 runs in a generally stable way - a locked 60 frames per second is very much preferable to the fully unlocked set-up on a 120Hz screen whether you're gaming on PS5 or Xbox Series X. We have shared our findings with Capcom a while back, and fingers crossed there'll be a solution to the issue, but the tl;dr version is simple enough on paper: allow PS5 users to select between 60Hz and 120Hz output resolution.

So basically, it's probably not recommended to play games that go above 60 fps, have inconsistent framerates, or to use a 1440P monitor. For now anyways.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 11, 2020, 11:19:11 PM
If you want to use game consoles on a 1440P monitor, get an mClassic.  The only caveat is that it doesn't support HDR.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 12, 2020, 02:14:33 AM
Target shit the bed with in seconds and Sony Direct sold out. Too bad.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: mormapope on November 12, 2020, 08:15:53 AM
Target shit the bed with in seconds and Sony Direct sold out. Too bad.

Check Walmart today, you might be able to pick one up locally too.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/walmart-ps5-release-times-heres-when-the-ps5-goes-on-sale-tomorrow/1100-6484109/?ftag=CAD-03-10abf8b
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on November 12, 2020, 08:20:05 AM
Quote
The frame rate hitches repeatedly, including pretty much every time you pick up an item. That’s true even in combat, and I died at least once because the action had stuttered.
I encountered regular crashes back to the home screen.
Once, the game managed to completely crash my PlayStation 5 to the point the system powered off.
Gearsux  :pacspit

There's something I don't quite get about the PS5 and that is the resolution choices.
I read that the PS5 doesn't do 1440p but also that it only does 4k on 120hz in certain games and otherwise defaults to 1080p / 120hz?
Like how does that work.

It's supposed to be patched later but basically the PS5 currently can output at 720P, 1080P, and 4K.

If you plug it into a 1440P monitor that can accept up to 1440P signal on its input, then the PS5 can output a 1080P signal that the monitor then has to upscale to 1440P.

If that monitor can accept a 4K signal on its input, then the PS5 can output a 4K signal that the monitor then has to downscale to 1440P.

So probably shouldn't use a 1440P monitor for now since monitors typically suck at scaling. Also there should be a patch later for VRR and for whatever reason, a game like DMC5 has some weirdness selecting output resolution if you don't have a 4K HDMI 2.1 display:

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2020-devil-may-cry-5-ps5-xbox-series-x-comparison

Quote
However, the fact that we can use Devil May Cry 5 as a 'benchmark' at all is mostly down to the fact that the developers have targeted 120Hz as the standard refresh rate output. This is great for seeing top-end performance metrics, but it's bad news for the experience - especially on PlayStation 5. This is because 120Hz output is locked to any screen that supports 120Hz, no matter the resolution. So consider a highly popular 4K screen - the LG OLED B8. PS5 sees that it is 120Hz-compatible, and overrides 4K resolution. All modes will run at a 120Hz refresh rate, at 1080p resolution - which is absolutely not ideal. Another popular screen is the Samsung NU8000. It's a 4K screen but on PS5, Devil May Cry will force through the 120Hz refresh rate instead, resulting in a downscale to 1440p that the user has no control over.

And this is where Xbox Series X has an advantage that's crucial. Users can simply dip into the video settings, select 60Hz and Devil May Cry 5 runs in a generally stable way - a locked 60 frames per second is very much preferable to the fully unlocked set-up on a 120Hz screen whether you're gaming on PS5 or Xbox Series X. We have shared our findings with Capcom a while back, and fingers crossed there'll be a solution to the issue, but the tl;dr version is simple enough on paper: allow PS5 users to select between 60Hz and 120Hz output resolution.

So basically, it's probably not recommended to play games that go above 60 fps, have inconsistent framerates, or to use a 1440P monitor. For now anyways.
My C8 only does 4k / 60hz and not 4k / 120hz as far as I know. Weird that they're not supporting VRR
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 12, 2020, 09:31:27 AM
Yeah Walmart is probably going to be hell if Target and now Best Buy are anything to go by. This system is'nt going to available for 6 months at this rate.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mupepe on November 12, 2020, 10:29:38 AM
My Amazon order says estimated Nov 13-16 but still hasn’t shipped. Hopefully today.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nuitangg on November 12, 2020, 11:51:04 AM
Delayed according to chat.  I was hoping for a fedex email this morning.   :maf
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on November 12, 2020, 11:58:18 AM
Can’t wait for rootass to bitch about how hard Demon’s Souls is  :rejoice
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nuitangg on November 12, 2020, 12:28:20 PM
My cancel button has been replaced with a reorder button.  I guess things are looking up.  Walmart is a fucking joke.  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 12, 2020, 12:29:28 PM
Ok I'm out till 2021. These online orders have been awful.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 12, 2020, 01:25:42 PM
Got my system from Amazon. Hope it doesn't blow up.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on November 12, 2020, 02:54:37 PM
Deso isnt all that hard anyway
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 12, 2020, 03:05:34 PM
It was hard for me as my first souls. I remember just using homing missile and kiting everything for an entire game  :'(

Still loved it.


Now that I know how to play souls, I am going melee for the remake.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 12, 2020, 03:44:49 PM
Oh god this system is enormous. Bigger than I ever imagined. Feels like a mini-desktop. Yeah, this is fucked in Japan until the slim version.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on November 12, 2020, 04:31:50 PM
https://twitter.com/NYSE/status/1326992987859996673 (https://twitter.com/NYSE/status/1326992987859996673)

 :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 12, 2020, 04:48:30 PM
First thoughts:

-Disc installing takes goddamn forever. Might be faster to buy games digitally than wait 30-60 mins for a game to install off disc.

-Are there no folders again? Why do they keep releasing systems without folders and then adding folders in later. WTF.

-Regions are handled...differently. I can log into my USA and JPN accounts and switch between them and their libraries no problem
thankfully (was scared this wouldn't work), but my JPN games that I haven't downloaded/installed yet are showing as "view product" and not "download/owned" on my USA user. Worst case scenario games may only be playable on their own region user. Which sucks when you want a single user for friend list/trophies, but w/e. I have some JPN games queued so I will see what happens when they finish installing and if I can play them on my USA user account. NM, THIS IS SAFE, SAME AS PS4

-UI seems nice and smooth. I like how the PS4 game library is integrated. Haven't tried moving saves over because didn't want to tie up the system for potentially hours moving all my PS4 shit. Will move saves one game at a time for things I want to test out.

-Pretty quiet so far. Disc drive when installing Miles was the loudest part but after it installed it's been quiet.

-Oh and I hate how the disc drive is hidden at the bottom. Pretty hard to get down there and put a disc in/out. I wish I could put the system upside down with the disc drive on top. Vertical takes care of this but I'm not putting consoles vertical to crash down and break. I am clumsy.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 12, 2020, 04:55:25 PM
Oh and you can't disc install and download something at the same time arghhhhh, whyyyyyy
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: brawndolicious on November 12, 2020, 05:38:31 PM
My C8 only does 4k / 60hz and not 4k / 120hz as far as I know. Weird that they're not supporting VRR

Weird, it can do 1080p @ 120 Hz apparently:

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c8-oled

I would think since the HDMI port has the bandwidth for 4k/60, it should be able to do 1440/120 but iono. I just have a cheap LG UM8070 and that's how it works.

Oh and you can't disc install and download something at the same time arghhhhh, whyyyyyy

Apparently you can take an external drive that you have connected to a PS4 and just connect it to PS5. Probably by far the fastest way to transfer stuff as servers will be clogged today.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 12, 2020, 05:41:05 PM
OK, YOU CAN PLAY GAMES FROM OTHER ACCOUNTS & REGIONS ON ANY ACCOUNT

phew
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 12, 2020, 05:46:44 PM
We in bois

 :woooo

Waiting for DeS to finish downloading
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: G The Resurrected on November 12, 2020, 05:49:33 PM
OK, YOU CAN PLAY GAMES FROM OTHER ACCOUNTS & REGIONS ON ANY ACCOUNT

phew

I was worried about that, as a multi console household we rely heavily on that to share the library across the house.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 12, 2020, 05:56:22 PM
Ok, this is bullshit. My PS+ stopped uploading saves 3 months ago because even though I haven't hit anywhere near the storage limit (still have 90gb free) I have hit the limit of the number of saves and PS+ cloud save storage is full.

So time to delete it all and just upload the saves for games I'm carrying over. Annoyingg.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 12, 2020, 05:58:15 PM
Looks like the limit is 1000 save files total. Says 10 mins to delete them all. *edit* down to 2 mins.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 12, 2020, 06:57:31 PM
Not even a minute for Amazon.

Today has been daggers through my PS fanboy heart.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on November 12, 2020, 07:26:50 PM
Not even a minute for Amazon.

Today has been daggers through my PS fanboy heart.
Shopping for tech products is ridiculous now with all the bots and scripts being used.
Scalpers selling this stuff for twice the regular price.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nuitangg on November 12, 2020, 07:34:17 PM
That sounds like what happened to me in Sept.  Walmart finally decided to ship my order earlier. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 12, 2020, 07:37:58 PM
Anyone know how to change between BC modes when playing a PS4 game?

Just tested Hajimari no Kiseki (PS4) and it runs fine, but not sure if it's using boost mode.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 12, 2020, 07:41:29 PM
I’d almost buy from a scalper but $1000+ is a lot for one system.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 12, 2020, 07:50:24 PM
Anyone know how to change between BC modes when playing a PS4 game?

Just tested Hajimari no Kiseki (PS4) and it runs fine, but not sure if it's using boost mode.

Looks like boost mode is automatic. But what happens if boosting breaks compatibility? Weird.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 12, 2020, 07:53:53 PM
Kinda a shame load times generally aren't improved in BC games like framerate can be. I tested Samurai Shodown and the load times are still terrible and too long for me /sigh

Hope next generation of fighting games have really short load times at least.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 12, 2020, 08:02:42 PM
Still haven't played a PS5 game yet lol, been working while messing around with this. Almost dooone with work and will try some Demon Souls/Miles.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 12, 2020, 08:42:42 PM
Buying Spider-Man on the PS4 means having no upgrade path right? So I can’t even just play that now?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nuitangg on November 12, 2020, 09:24:02 PM
Keep forgetting about the PS+ collection. Most of that shit I never got around to playing.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 12, 2020, 09:29:21 PM
Guess I’ll just get the shitty PS4 version of Miles.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 12, 2020, 10:41:52 PM
https://twitter.com/ElevenOHNOES/status/1326796883768061954
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 12, 2020, 10:42:11 PM
Played through the first level of Demon Souls. Game looks insane on the textures and environment art direction jeez. I do wish you could move the camera closer. Hard to see much ahead of you when going into rooms though maybe that's on purpose.

Also while 1-1 was fun, I forgot how faaaaaaar the bonfires are apart in Demon Souls vs Dark Souls/Bloodborne. I don't remember if there's only bonfires when you kill bosses and everything else is just shortcuts? Probably? Feels more intense than Dark Souls/Bloodborne because of that.

Fighting Phalanx with a flaming sword was pretty dope looking. I didn't think I'd remember Demon Souls that much since I only played through it once on the Japanese release. But a lot of it came back, like remembering which way to go and where a strong enemy is and how to fight a boss. Pretty cool.

Also the game has a great photo mode. Not sure how you get photos off the PS5 without twitter though. I guess Souls has a pause button now? Since photo mode pauses the game...
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 12, 2020, 11:02:43 PM
Ok, found the media gallery app. Was hidden because no fucking folders argggh

(https://i.imgur.com/caatUbWh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/mdmwYREh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/VRKlCo7h.jpg)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 12, 2020, 11:07:54 PM
Wow that looks amazing.

Too bad when I finally get to play it only the try hards will be left.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 13, 2020, 12:02:57 AM
rahx, roit is spreading fud. you can claim a miles upgrade for free if you have a disc or digital version (obvs need the disc ps5 for that later) and you can upgrade ur reg version to ultimate later for $20
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 13, 2020, 12:12:41 AM
I rlly need to stop responding in threads with info that is so readily available w a cursory Google  :esports
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 13, 2020, 01:08:36 AM
Fuck, was trying out Dreams which runs really, really nice on this. Was playing the Media Molecule campaign Art's Dream and got a trophy notification at the end of a bit and it hardcrashed the whole system :(
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 13, 2020, 01:13:06 AM
Uh, fuck this is really bad. By crashing in a BC game (dreams), it corrupted the save and deleted it and I lost all progress. Luckily I'd just put it on the cloud when I transferred it over.

...but if crashes happen during BC games and they wipe your save by corrupting it....that is super fucking dangerously bad.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 13, 2020, 01:50:31 AM
Well I re-installed the save and did that bit again to see if the crash was repeatable but it worked fine.

I think the OS is just kind of buggy atm. I had background downloads going, took a screenshot, a trophy popped up, etc... various OS stuff going on at once when it crashed. Other crashes I'm reading about seem to happen when things are background downloading. I think something is having trouble multi-tasking in the OS.

Luckily these crashes I'm reading about don't seem like HW failure crashes, just annoying rebuild database crashes though if they corrupt the save file like this that is badddd.

Hopefully Sony gets some stability updates out pretty quick in the next few weeks and months.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 13, 2020, 02:25:07 AM
Astrobot - GoTY? :P

(https://i.imgur.com/Fiklbzmh.jpg)

This game is amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing. This team is so good. The game looks insane and is fun as hell and hilarious with all the movie/game references everywhere. Charming af. Probably be the best launch game.

(https://i.imgur.com/1zxxYXyh.jpg)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on November 13, 2020, 02:46:03 AM
I don't remember if there's only bonfires when you kill bosses and everything else is just shortcuts? Probably?

Yes, you only get archstones by killing bosses.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: archnemesis on November 13, 2020, 02:57:43 AM
Demon's Souls is the equivalent of $100 on the PS Store. I'll buy a lot fewer games this generation. Hopefully physical discs will still drop in price after a few months.

I'll still buy Demon's Souls immediately once I get my system, like a sucker.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 13, 2020, 03:48:10 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/6e2pewLh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/u35piyKh.jpg)

Miles is cool, the 60fps actually looks weird to me, like the game feels like it's running too fast? I wonder if the physics or animation or something isn't meant for 60fps. Ended up going with the 30fps which just feels like Spider-Man PS4 but looks a little nicer and has some good reflections. I feel like you notice that most on foot running around.

I'm curious to check out the PS4 version in videos. The opening is pretty crazy and cuts between the city and a really nice looking big mall stage instantly. Insomniac are tech wizards.

Outside some nice lighting in fights and cutscenes and chases and some reflections...Miles basically looks like Spider-Man PS4, but at least they re-did enough of the city with the winter theme that it's pretty nice and doesn't just feel like a DLC.

That new Peter model...sheesh. Is there anyone out there that actually likes the new face? I think it's going to take some getting used to or will bring down some of the human moments in Spider-Man 2. I hate that he looks like a generic jocky model now.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 13, 2020, 04:37:05 AM
If only Goodbye Volcano High was a launch title.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 13, 2020, 05:19:09 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/W9SWCPZh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/rSO0JAYh.jpg)

Sackboy seems...ok. Reminds me a lot of the last couple of Yoshi games. Slower paced exploration platformer with crafty art. Cutscene models look nice, music is great and load times are only a couple of seconds. Seems a lot less interesting of a platformer than Sumo Digital's LBP3 tho. Maybe it picks up.

I tried checking out LBP3 in BC after, thankfully it really reduces the load times which was my biggest gripe on the PS4. Sitting and waiting like 30-60 seconds to transition between the world hub and mini-levels was too tedious. Seems to be about 1/2 or 1/3rd of that. A lot of PS4 games don't have improved load times in BC, but a decent amount do. My brother plays Tony Hawk 1 & 2 on PS4 and says in BC it cut the load times about 50%.

After that tried out Earth Defense Force 5 because it's the perfect game for BC with unlocked framerate that is pretty shit. Runs really smooth on PS5, 60fps w/dips when it's too chaotic but dips seem pretty minor. Just gotta wait for EDF6 to bring PS5 to its knees.

Done for the night, all in all really good first impressions. Demon Souls/Astrobot/Miles are fucking great and pretty much the best launch lineup in a long time. Really impressed with the dual sense, short load times, smooth UI and crazy good visuals. Otoh, don't trust the PS5 entirely yet because firmware is a bit buggy and worried about crashes. That'll get patched up over time though.


Tomorrow will check out Bugsnax and for BC wanna check out Monster Hunter Iceborne at 60fps locked & Ghost of Tsushima at 60fps, maybe Day's Gone too at 60fps.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on November 13, 2020, 06:12:27 AM
Have fun everyone im a bit jealous but I ordered a 3070 so thats my next gen :p
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 13, 2020, 08:30:11 AM
Demon's Souls is out of this fucking world.

I can see people preferring the old aesthetics and atmosphere but the overall presentation of the remake is undeniably impressive. The crazy level of detail and lighting with a smooth 60 FPS on top is just too good.   
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 13, 2020, 09:13:07 AM
Well all the local targets had 30+ people in line.  I hate this system.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: G The Resurrected on November 13, 2020, 10:59:02 AM
Riotous what kind of display are you rocking? I’m surprised Sony isn’t supporting VRR and the early impression is it’s desperately needed with these new consoles. For those with hdmi 2.1 TVs I’m sure the experience is welcomed compared to the pro and X.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: G The Resurrected on November 13, 2020, 11:08:43 AM
2.1 needs work :P

It’s a mess right now, but when it works it’s a revelation. Monitors aren’t a good example of high nit HDR yet even in the year of our lord 2020.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on November 13, 2020, 11:10:22 AM
Sackboy is on PS4 too, right? I may get that and Morales once they hit some sale.
Looks like a decent platformer, and some of the footage reminds me of the Mario Sunshine levels without the water jetpack.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: G The Resurrected on November 13, 2020, 11:17:36 AM
Dude you didn’t expense this beast?

 https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/alienware-55-oled-gaming-monitor-aw5520qf/apd/210-AUDS/monitors-monitor-accessories (https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/alienware-55-oled-gaming-monitor-aw5520qf/apd/210-AUDS/monitors-monitor-accessories)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: G The Resurrected on November 13, 2020, 11:34:58 AM
That’s not a bad setup for a work/gaming area. That monitor is very nice though and paired with a good headset that’d be noice. I saw someone who expensed that monitor/tv and a decked out Alienware with Sonos arc system (available on some portals.) I’d love to be HR when that person gets written up.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 13, 2020, 02:23:53 PM
Nioh 1 and 2 Remastered will be coming to PS5.  A follow-up tweet also mentions Nioh 2 is out on PC next year.

https://twitter.com/nioh_game/status/1327234765582372864

Gematsu confirms that you can upgrade to the PS5 version of Nioh 2 free if you have the PS4 version:

Quote
For those of you who are looking to continue your demon slaying journey in Nioh 2 onto PlayStation 5 from your PlayStation 4, there are two upgrade routes for you to take:

Players that own Nioh 2 – The Complete Edition on PlayStation 4 can upgrade to Nioh 2 Remastered – The Complete Edition on PlayStation 5 at no additional cost.

Players that own Nioh 2 on PS4 can upgrade to the base game – Nioh 2 Remastered on PlayStation 5, and receive the PlayStation 5 version of any downloadable content expansions they own on PlayStation 4.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on November 13, 2020, 02:40:16 PM
After Nioh 1 I was like, cool enough, but I'd rather Ninja Gaiden back. After part 2 I still need NG, but also more Nioh. Gameplay has been way improved and when they went fanservice at the end of 2, I realized that I actually care about this shit now. :doge I only wish they'd drop that weird spooky sound design that tries to replicate Dark Souls, because it doesn't fit the campy atmosphere at all.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: remy on November 13, 2020, 04:23:14 PM
After Nioh 1 I was like, cool enough, but I'd rather Ninja Gaiden back. After part 2 I still need NG, but also more Nioh. Gameplay has been way improved and when they went fanservice at the end of 2, I realized that I actually care about this shit now. :doge I only wish they'd drop that weird spooky sound design that tries to replicate Dark Souls, because it doesn't fit the campy atmosphere at all.
They can keep the awesome oni (?) yell when you die though. The one that sounds like NYOOOOOOOOOOOO

My main motivator for ps5 continues to be ps4 games, but better.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 13, 2020, 05:01:35 PM
I was on the Sony Direct Page since 10 my time. It hits 2 and I refreshed and was put in the que. I had to go to work though, but I guess there was a workaround to skip the que that I was unaware of. So it’s not like I was going to win regardless of work.

So I just decided to be miserable and buy the PS4 versions of CoD and Miles. I don’t even want the PS5 anymore, this whole process has been shit. In fact I feel like I need a less shitty hobby.

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 13, 2020, 07:30:43 PM
Monster Hunter World runs insane on this. I've never seen 60fps smooth MH before :o
Also the load times are really short now.

Makes me want to get back to Iceborne.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tasty on November 13, 2020, 07:38:03 PM
Monster Hunter World runs insane on this. I've never seen 60fps smooth MH before :o
Also the load times are really short now.

Makes me want to get back to Iceborne.

:o :drool
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 13, 2020, 08:00:34 PM
Persona 5 Scramble runs locked perfect smooth 60fps in resolution mode. Both in P5 Shibuya cityscapes and musou combat areas.
Great news for the western release. It's still in my backlog so will be nice to play sometime.

Gravity Rush 2 is locked framerate :(

PS4 Games that have locked framerates look like night & day from games with unlocked framerates in PS5 BC.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 13, 2020, 09:59:28 PM
Persona 5 Scramble runs locked perfect smooth 60fps in resolution mode. Both in P5 Shibuya cityscapes and musou combat areas.
Great news for the western release. It's still in my backlog so will be nice to play sometime.

If there's a western release.  :gloomy
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 14, 2020, 01:13:42 AM
Sorry about all the whinny posts. It's been a pretty shitty weak between work and life.

And also even for a rather introverted person like me, I feel like covid is starting to get to me.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 14, 2020, 02:09:02 AM
Played a few hours of AC Valhalla. Surprisingly my PC save crossed over automatically so I didn't have to replay the intro.

On one hand the game definitely looks noticeably softer and lower detail than maxed out on PC. Definitely has that "console version" simplified look.

Otoh, the game is stellar at keeping 60fps constant (outside some tearing in cutscenes), whereas the PC version dips to 30-40fps in settlement and active areas. It feels nice just going from one spot to another and always keeping 60fps smooth.

PS5 version probably looks sharper and more detailed in 4k though. I'm still on 1080p TV and when I play on PC it's on a 1440p gsync monitor so it makes sense it would look softer in 1080p. Still Demon Souls looks sharp af on my 1080p set so I don't think it's just that.

Also Bugsnax is lolll for being the one launch game that brings PS5 to its knees. Game struggles to run 60fps while looking like a PS3/X360 gen game. Wonder how they even pulled that off. Seems kinda fun though, will play some more.

Persona 5 Scramble runs locked perfect smooth 60fps in resolution mode. Both in P5 Shibuya cityscapes and musou combat areas.
Great news for the western release. It's still in my backlog so will be nice to play sometime.

If there's a western release.  :gloomy

Eh, it's a franchise that sells hundreds of thousands of copies. It'll come for sure. Atlus just seems to take forever to localize large amounts of dialogue and P5 Scramble is supposedly like 1/2 the length of Persona 5.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 14, 2020, 02:25:11 AM
Also AC Valhalla is the first PS5 game I've tried that doesn't use the HD rumble in the Dualsense at all, and man you really notice it coming from everything else. Gonna be kinda lame if 3rd parties don't bother at least putting in some nice haptics. I know NBA2K1 uses it, not sure about DIRT/CoD. Would assume Watchdogs doesn't since I'm gonna assume it's an Ubi thing since AC doesn't have it. Also the two Ubi games were showcasing Xbox Series X and not PS5 so seems like Ubisoft is prioritizing XSX features over PS5 ones initially.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on November 14, 2020, 02:30:40 AM
https://youtu.be/yUqBjGgtzaM

This shit looking real good
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on November 14, 2020, 02:31:28 AM
Sorry about all the whinny posts. It's been a pretty shitty weak between work and life.

And also even for a rather introverted person like me, I feel like covid is starting to get to me.

Its all good rahx no whining, its annoying when you want something and cant get it
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on November 14, 2020, 06:35:29 AM
Sorry about all the whinny posts. It's been a pretty shitty weak between work and life.

And also even for a rather introverted person like me, I feel like covid is starting to get to me.
You are still kicking and ready to spend :money, gamers will inherit the earth my friend :rejoice

Also remember that normies freak out over people kicking or throwing balls  :girlaff
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 14, 2020, 07:40:59 AM
Ghost of Tsushima at 60 FPS

 :crazy

All the movement with the grass and particle effects at a higher framerate makes huge difference. Might be the most impressive looking PS4 game I've tried out. I love to try out Horizon Zero Dawn but I'm pretty sure the PS4 Performance mode is still only 30 FPS.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 14, 2020, 03:11:16 PM
I haven't tried hooking up my PSVR yet because I don't want to add more complexities to my PS5 OS in case it crashes ^^;  I kinda feel like waiting until the first firmware update is out to test some of the stuff like Blood & Truth.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 14, 2020, 03:26:03 PM
Anyone know how 1440p monitors work on this. I know PS5 doesn't support 1440p, so does it output 4k and your 1440p monitor downscales it to 1440p or does it output 1080p and your 1440p monitor upscales it to 1440p?

I'm curious is the softness I'm seeing in AC Valhalla PS5 vs PC is because I'm playing the PS5 version at 1080p vs 1440p on PC. If I can hook up my 1440p monitor to the PS5 and get 4k downscaled to 1440p it'd probably be a better comparison to see how the two line up. Guess I'll just try it and see what happens.

Also I just tried Valhalla PC again and this cross-save between PS5/PC is hella nice but also goddamn the performance sucks on PC. Getting like 30fps around the same areas as PS5 at 60fps with my 2080ti and i9-9900k.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 14, 2020, 03:48:14 PM
Ok, so after destroying my desk and almost breaking my 1440p monitor and a water glass trying to get a fucking HDMI port into my behemoth of a goddamn monitor,

The PS5 outputs at 1080p to it and the monitor upscales to 1440p.


That being said, running AC Valhalla at the same spot side by side between PC maxed at 1440p native and PS5 outputting 1080p to the same monitor...it looked pretty fucking close. Like I could barely tell the difference visually and it looked a lot sharper than playing on my 1080p TV so the monitor's upscaling to 1440p must be doing that. All while locked 60fps on PS5 vs 30s range on PC. Pretty impressive.

I'd imagine on a 4k TV that Valhalla would look really good and sharp + 60fps. I've held off on getting a 4k TV all these years because not enough 4k content to bail on my nice Plasma TV, but with PS5/XSX/3080 finally being able to push 4k or dynamic 4k on most games...definitely feels like time to upgrade.

I think when covid is finally over and life resumes, I'll get a 4k tv in celebration. That shit is too heavy for me to lift on my own and I'm not letting people in my place during covid.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 14, 2020, 04:08:12 PM
Bebpo, I've mentioned it several times, but am not sure how it works with the PS5- check out the mClassic.  It will upscale 1080P to 1440P on the fly with zero noticeable input lag.  The image quality is absolutely amazing on a 1440P monitor.  I got mine for the Switch and older consoles, which is where this thing really shines, but it also works great with the PS4.  It does not support HDR, but I'm guessing your monitor doesn't have that anyway.  I'm also not sure how it handles console games that support 120hz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OZ7iWUJTbc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-NhX9-_KE0

I switched out my 32" 4K 60hz TV for a 27" 1440P 144hz monitor earlier this year and picked this up for use with that, although ended up just hooking stuff up to an older 1080P monitor.  The mClassic still does a great job with that too.  Will look into another 4K TV or monitor once HDMI 2.1 is more widespread and working better with the consoles.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 14, 2020, 04:14:08 PM
Well, generally I'd rather play games on my tv and couch than on my monitor, so it's ok.

But yeah, HDR is another thing I don't have on either my monitor or TV. So will be nice to get that when I pick up a 4k tv next year. My brother got his first 4k tv last year and I saw some demos and was pretty impressed with the HDR.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rufus on November 14, 2020, 04:15:08 PM
In the meantime, try these settings from Hardware Unboxed to get that PC framerate up.

(https://i.imgur.com/OJhPpVY.png)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 14, 2020, 04:16:28 PM
Well, generally I'd rather play games on my tv and couch than on my monitor, so it's ok.

But yeah, HDR is another thing I don't have on either my monitor or TV. So will be nice to get that when I pick up a 4k tv next year. My brother got his first 4k tv last year and I saw some demos and was pretty impressed with the HDR.

I have not been impressed with HDR on video games (looked washed out and lacking in color), but my only experience with it was with the PS4 Pro.  Am assuming the PS5 does it much better. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rufus on November 14, 2020, 04:19:33 PM
Your display has to have good HDR support as well.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 14, 2020, 04:19:56 PM
In the meantime, try these settings from Hardware Unboxed to get that PC framerate up.

(https://i.imgur.com/OJhPpVY.png)

Do they have one for Watchdogs Legion? I still can't get that to run & look decent on PC :(

These 2 Ubisoft games are terribly optimized for PC.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 14, 2020, 04:23:26 PM
Also my dualsense isn't charging from the front USB. Left it charging all night and it was on 1 bar this morning. There's a lot of people with similar issue on era, charging it on a separate USB charger now to confirm it's not the controller but the USB port.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rufus on November 14, 2020, 04:42:49 PM
In the meantime, try these settings from Hardware Unboxed to get that PC framerate up.

(https://i.imgur.com/OJhPpVY.png)

Do they have one for Watchdogs Legion? I still can't get that to run & look decent on PC :(

These 2 Ubisoft games are terribly optimized for PC.
They do! Two flavours in fact, 'quality' and 'balanced'.


(https://i.imgur.com/8Cc09oB.png)


(https://i.imgur.com/ZZYivAZ.png)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Trent Dole on November 14, 2020, 04:48:19 PM
https://twitter.com/rob_sheridan/status/1327518513120985088
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 14, 2020, 04:48:53 PM
Ok, yeah my controller charged a bar using a non-PS5 usb charger. So it just seems the USB, at least the front one, sucks for charging the controller. It functions as a working USB but it's not charging it for whatever reason.

Will try charging it with the back USB port tonight and see if that's any different.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 14, 2020, 05:32:47 PM
Your display has to have good HDR support as well.

Could be this.  The first TV I used it on was, at the time, one of the highest-rated TVs you could buy and NYT/Wirecutter's pick for best TV overall.  HDR video was nice, but the PS4 looked all kinds of washed out. 

The second TV I tried was released less than a year ago and HDR looked nicer, but still kind of washed out.  Nothing I couldn't adjust with the picture settings, but it always looked better with HDR off to me.  I do have a preference for more color saturation, although I've seen others comment that PS4 HDR also kind of sucks.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 14, 2020, 06:20:38 PM
https://twitter.com/rob_sheridan/status/1327518513120985088

lol, this happened to me the other day. I became a few different objects. one was a big chunk of road. took some screens and kept playing, eventually it booted me to the bug report screen. had a lot of bugs between spidey and demon's now. ps5 software nearly as buggy as an obsidian game rn
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 14, 2020, 07:52:55 PM
In the meantime, try these settings from Hardware Unboxed to get that PC framerate up.

(https://i.imgur.com/OJhPpVY.png)

Do they have one for Watchdogs Legion? I still can't get that to run & look decent on PC :(

These 2 Ubisoft games are terribly optimized for PC.
They do! Two flavours in fact, 'quality' and 'balanced'.


(https://i.imgur.com/8Cc09oB.png)


(https://i.imgur.com/ZZYivAZ.png)

Thanks, Watchdogs Legion actually runs & looks ok with these settings. Now the game is a lot more playable on PC.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: DJ Bedroom on November 14, 2020, 11:35:38 PM
Anyone in here having any kind of weird problems with their systems? Reading a bunch of stuff about weird issues with database rebuilds which has scared me off of playing spiderman. This shit coming in white hot. Dualsense is fucking rad though
Also my dualsense isn't charging from the front USB. Left it charging all night and it was on 1 bar this morning. There's a lot of people with similar issue on era, charging it on a separate USB charger now to confirm it's not the controller but the USB port.
I guess the front usb port isn't powered during rest mode. The back ones are though.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 14, 2020, 11:40:16 PM
In like 2 days of pretty extreme testing outside VR, the only issues I've had area a 5 second freeze on Demon Soul's right before loading an area past a shortcut and a bad hard crash when a trophy popped up in PS4 BC in Dreams that caused a database rebuild and corrupted and killed the Dreams save file.

Otherwise, been ok /fingers crossed.

Anyone in here having any kind of weird problems with their systems? Reading a bunch of stuff about weird issues with database rebuilds which has scared me off of playing spiderman. This shit coming in white hot. Dualsense is fucking rad though
Also my dualsense isn't charging from the front USB. Left it charging all night and it was on 1 bar this morning. There's a lot of people with similar issue on era, charging it on a separate USB charger now to confirm it's not the controller but the USB port.
I guess the front usb port isn't powered during rest mode. The back ones are though.

That would explain it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on November 15, 2020, 05:39:10 AM
https://youtu.be/44JM7UZsaCs
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 15, 2020, 08:06:37 AM
I had one game freeze for a few seconds but other than that I've had zero issues. I've had a launch GameCube, Wii, PS4 and never had any big problems. My Genesis and N64 both still work. Hope PS5 is the same.

Actually the shitty ass 360 was the only hardware I've had fail on me. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on November 15, 2020, 08:48:43 AM
https://youtu.be/44JM7UZsaCs
From what I'm seeing most things are software issues. There's more widespread reports of Xbox Series X disk drives being broken or loud but that should be an easy fix.
With the PS5 it seems that the GPU artifacts are more common, which is no surprise given the aggressive clock speeds it needs to run at and that will probably continue to haunt them for quite some time.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: mormapope on November 15, 2020, 08:58:12 AM
Where are you getting this info btw?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on November 15, 2020, 09:43:55 AM
Where are you getting this info btw?

Quite a few threads on reddit reporting such issues
https://www.reddit.com/r/PS5/comments/jtswtf/demons_souls_graphical_glitch/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/PS5/comments/jtswtf/demons_souls_graphical_glitch/)
https://www.reddit.com/r/playstation/comments/jtlhar/need_help_setting_up_an_rma_for_my_defective_ps5/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/playstation/comments/jtlhar/need_help_setting_up_an_rma_for_my_defective_ps5/)
https://www.reddit.com/r/PS5/comments/jtbunk/ps5_overheating/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/PS5/comments/jtbunk/ps5_overheating/)
https://www.reddit.com/r/playstation/comments/jtblcx/ps5_issues_visual_artifacts/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/playstation/comments/jtblcx/ps5_issues_visual_artifacts/)

The PS5 GPU runs on very aggressive yet variable clocks:
It tops out at 2.23GHz (or 2230mhz) for demanding titles.

For comparison, my Aorus RTX 2070 Super runs at 1905 mhz (+140mhz compared to the ~1770 mhz base model) and that's the highest out of the box vendor overclock, in fact it was assumed a typo when they announced it.
MSI's Gaming X version for example runs at only 1800mhz (30mhz).
The Radeon 5700XT runs at 1905mhz and a 'stable' yet agressive overclock is considered to be 2005mhz (+100 mhz is usually the norm if you have no guarantee that you have a quality chip that works beyond the advertised clockspeed).

However in some games that 100mhz overclock means up to a 10fps difference so Sony taking a risk with agressive clocks brings PS5 very close to Xbox Series X level (as Digital Foundry has shown) and their cooling solution can easily handle it (PS5 doesn't run that hot).
The Xbox Series X GPU only runs at 1825 mhz so the PS5 GPU runs an impressive 405mhz faster on what is basically the same architecture with cut down CU's (I believe it's 36(PS5) vs 52(XSX)).
However, it will lead to lower yields and more hardware defects as not every chip will be able to hit that number without issue.
Not to mention if issues are introduced on the assembly line like poorly applied thermal paste or a heat sink not properly installed it'll be noticeable sooner.

Which is why shortages of the new 6000-series GPU are also expected for the higher end models, considering AMD has moved to very high clock speeds to 'brute force' their way out of the performance difference with Nvidia.
The 6900XT will run at a boost clock of 2250mhz but that's a $999 GPU. The cheaper 6800 will run at 'only' 2105mhz.

In time their yields will get better but hence the expectation that shortages of high-end 7nm chips (Zen 3, RDNA2, PS5/XSX) will remain for the first half of 2020.
You're just not getting very good yields for a few months with these aggressive clocks but AMD doesn't mind because at 7nm they have a much bigger production volume and they can just build up stock for their 'budget' outings faster.
The Ryzen 5600X for example is easy for them to resupply considering they can use faulty 5800X/5900X//5950X chips. They're probably sitting on a stack of Ryzen 5600's already.

Oh and yesterday I read that Nvidia might adapt to TSMC 7nm processes as well so they're no longer tied to the 8nm Samsung node they're using now (to fix the 3000-series supply issues).
And that would mean all high-end in demand chips(PS5,XSX,ZEN2+,ZEN3,RDNA2/Radeon 6000,RTX3000) are sourced from TSMC's 7nm process.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 15, 2020, 10:02:57 AM
Well we knew sony shit themselves when ms announced the specs and just overclocked the ps5 to get over 10tf.

The ps5 was never meant for this so I do expect some of them to fry. Maybe not 360 bad but who knows.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rufus on November 15, 2020, 10:24:52 AM
I'd be hesitant to draw conclusions from such little information. It's just too early.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: brawndolicious on November 15, 2020, 10:30:54 AM
Well we knew sony shit themselves when ms announced the specs and just overclocked the ps5 to get over 10tf.

The ps5 was never meant for this so I do expect some of them to fry. Maybe not 360 bad but who knows.

Was this the same issue that killed the 360s so fast? I thought the main reason given was that the heat would cause the mounting mechanism for the heatsink to warp, I don't remember anyone mentioning that the silicon itself was frying.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rufus on November 15, 2020, 10:39:47 AM
Those were (meant to be) disconnected statements, I think.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 15, 2020, 10:45:02 AM
Well we knew sony shit themselves when ms announced the specs and just overclocked the ps5 to get over 10tf.

The ps5 was never meant for this so I do expect some of them to fry. Maybe not 360 bad but who knows.

Was this the same issue that killed the 360s so fast? I thought the main reason given was that the heat would cause the mounting mechanism for the heatsink to warp, I don't remember anyone mentioning that the silicon itself was frying.

We don't know FOR SURE because MS has never said, but some 3rd party investigations indicate that they used a shitty solder that when exposed to excessive heat for extended periods of time would become brittle and develop tiny, hairline cracks that were essentially irreparable. So probably a combo of using that in a poorly ventilated system that ran hot. ('MERICAN ENGINEERING FTW)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 15, 2020, 10:48:04 AM
That's why sometimes the hot towel trick worked as you melted it into place again :)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: who is ted danson? on November 15, 2020, 11:31:53 AM
I don't care if the problems are widespread or not, I just want a crowbcat video mocking them  :'(
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on November 15, 2020, 11:45:13 AM
I don't care if the problems are widespread or not, I just want a crowbcat video mocking them  :'(

Dude hasn’t uploaded in like a year. The ree mafia must’ve gotten to him  :tinfoil
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tasty on November 15, 2020, 11:54:43 AM
I don't care if the problems are widespread or not, I just want a crowbcat video mocking them  :'(

Dude hasn’t uploaded in like a year. The ree mafia must’ve gotten to him  :tinfoil

His only problematic content is like, one line in one video from two+ years ago right? :/
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: G The Resurrected on November 15, 2020, 12:07:16 PM
Was playing Astro and was returning to the SSD levels and during the load the game crashed then immediately the os locked up restarted the PS5 and had to wait on a rebuild. JFC!

These software issues are nuts. I’m surprised they didn’t find these issues in testing.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 15, 2020, 04:23:43 PM
i had a few bugs the first few days but played ~12 hours no issues the other day. testers can never pick up all the things millions of man hours of community play will pick up. that said, this thing does seem quite buggy.

thermals are solid though, i dont think there are issues there, even in high pressure situs only very small parts of the heat sink get to 50 degrees. no doubt there are some hardware issues but there is definitely a weird subset of nerds that make videos overplaying this stuff, like the series x videos with people blowing vape into the bottom and videoing it saying they're on fire.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on November 15, 2020, 05:04:00 PM
Well we knew sony shit themselves when ms announced the specs and just overclocked the ps5 to get over 10tf.

The ps5 was never meant for this so I do expect some of them to fry. Maybe not 360 bad but who knows.

Was this the same issue that killed the 360s so fast? I thought the main reason given was that the heat would cause the mounting mechanism for the heatsink to warp, I don't remember anyone mentioning that the silicon itself was frying.
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The X-clamp fix is required because of the lack of the lead in the solder that holds the GPU and the CPU on the motherboard. Overheating causes the BGA (ball grid array) to weaken, resulting in the CPU become detached from the motherboard. Overheating can occur in various storage scenarios best avoided by checking our Xbox 360 care guide.
https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/xbox-360-rrod-x-clamp-fix-work/ (https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/xbox-360-rrod-x-clamp-fix-work/)

The tower trick basically melted everything back together lol

Anyway, PS5 shouldn't have problems with its cooling solution it's just that some faulty chips might pass through the cracks and end up on the assembly line and the margin of error is just very small at such high clocks.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 15, 2020, 05:14:51 PM
increasing clock speed should not inherently increase errors. if you're cpu bound and/or your system is overheating though yeah
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 15, 2020, 05:42:49 PM
also, idk anything abt the new amd cards but the variable clock speed for the 3000 series can hit peaks of nearly 2000mhz with the factory clocks. my colleague apparently pushed his +100mhz and it's fine (assuming this makes peak variance up to 2100) but that's apparently ~the limit because is pushed to the 115% of rec'd voltage.

it would make sense that a gpu with less CUs and everything around it customised precisely to cater to that can run faster timings. there's no way sony just decided on these clocks overnight because ms released their specs lmao
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mr. Nobody on November 15, 2020, 08:29:38 PM
Willing to give head for physical PS5  :goty2
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 16, 2020, 08:48:15 AM
Team Asobi are fucking Grandmasters of next level 3D platforming.  Everyone needs more Astrobot in their lives.  Best pack in since Mario 64 or SMW. 

My digi edition is running smoove and had no issues so far with BC, crashing, glitching, rebuilding, etc..  Still haven't tried and VR on it yet though (even though I do have the adapter).
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tasty on November 16, 2020, 09:44:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3AiWzAa0Yw
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tasty on November 16, 2020, 09:55:37 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/fJ4R60p.gif)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 16, 2020, 10:09:52 AM
Just like the PSP Go one!  :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1guXDWF6h6g
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on November 16, 2020, 10:22:21 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3AiWzAa0Yw
The funny part is that, thanks to Sony's amazing design team, even the disc version has people insert the disc the wrong way, because they have the console with disc drive on the upper side, when horizontal.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nuitangg on November 16, 2020, 10:28:53 AM
Astrobot is great but they really need to let you invert the camera.  Unless I'm missing it?   
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: G The Resurrected on November 16, 2020, 10:46:21 AM
Astrobot is great but they really need to let you invert the camera.  Unless I'm missing it?

Global settings means you never have to switch inverting on in the first place. I don’t understand you crazy folks, the missus is the same way. I’m sorry your brains are so broken.  :P
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 16, 2020, 03:47:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3AiWzAa0Yw
The funny part is that, thanks to Sony's amazing design team, even the disc version has people insert the disc the wrong way, because they have the console with disc drive on the upper side, when horizontal.

 ???  :dunno  :confused

edit: actually is pretty clear how people could misinterpret this. to me the design language was straight forward as i understood how the disc drive is meant to be on the bottom when horizontal and you don't put discs in upside down but yeah, i get it. every other ps the design language is super clear but the ps5 is a bit vague.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 16, 2020, 03:52:48 PM
im a munter and actually tried inserting a disc backwards just to see what happened. waited a while and the console didn't eject it, just continued trying to read until i ejected it. but when you place the disc ps horizontal  the disc drive is on the bottom or the stand doesn't sit right, and when vertical er, it's also very clear lol.

could see how it might be confusing if you'd never used a disc drive before i guess
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on November 16, 2020, 06:15:49 PM
Two recurring mistakes i've seen mentioned are:
1) As i said, putting the PS5 horizontal with the disc reader on top (so really, upside down).
2) When vertical, inserting the disc in the wrong direction (with the read-part inwards and the graphic outwards) because of the intuitive assumprion that the lens would be inside the console, where the hardware is, instead of being on the external part.

Also if you pull the USB from the cord to detach them (which you shouldn't do in the first place, but still) when horizontal, some people have had it slip away from the base on to the table/floor.

There are so many things that bug me, like the absurdly complex base, or the USBs being in the middle when vertical, or the power/eject buttons not being contextually placed and almost invisible... i dunno it's one of those things were the more i think about it, the weirder it gets.

To me, it remains the most puzzlingly designed console i've ever seen this side of the NES, but of course yeah, it's relatively minor stuff.

Hopefully they take a good look at what can be done, when the inevitable Pro/Slim comes out.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 16, 2020, 07:12:29 PM
heh, yeah the base design seems good for airflow at least. i really like how it perches when horizontal, like a model spaceship
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nuitangg on November 16, 2020, 08:25:46 PM
https://youtu.be/rtqI8g3tb3c

Going to try black this weekend
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on November 17, 2020, 12:10:29 AM
Mi brothero picked up my PS5 and he should be here by the 21st  :rejoice
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on November 17, 2020, 03:09:59 AM
I have no idea how some people can get confused and put the console upside down. It's pretty obvious that the PS logo should be on the top side ???
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 17, 2020, 04:35:11 AM
I'd probably put the first disc in wrong when it's vertical. When holding the disc in your right hand you basically have to hold the disc the wrong way around.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on November 17, 2020, 04:35:32 AM
I have no idea how some people can get confused and put the console upside down. It's pretty obvious that the PS logo should be on the top side ???
They made fun of Immobile (soccer player) for snapping a photo with it upside down, too.  :lol
https://gamesurf.tiscali.it/notizie/articoli/Immobile-impazzisce-per-la-PS5-ma-la-console-e-al-contrario/

But when you look at it like that, it's actually kind of sensible that the disc tray would be in the most accessible position (on top) and the PS logo is probably not something you see immediately, compared to the disc slot.
It honestly shouldn't even be an issue, for something well designed.

Although in my opinion PS4 was also pretty horrid when it came to the visibility/accessibility of its disc tray, so this one at least doesn't have that problem, once you're good with the orientation.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Akala on November 17, 2020, 10:01:30 AM
PS5 impressions:

when putting the system horizontally the base could snap on better, unless there is something I am missing. I finally got it in there, but it kept coming dislodged with slight movements and feels more precarious than it should.

spider man remake looks pretty ridiculous, although city feels maybe overbig? I have never played it before, seems neat. they do throw a good bit of controls at you. playing on 30fps mode with bells and whistles.

astro bot will probably be first thing I beat, it really well done, as expected.

BUGSNAX is kinda lol, who the fuck were they expecting to buy this.  :lol

I want Demons Souls after looking at it more, it looks really good but will try and wait for a sale as have enough at moment.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 17, 2020, 01:16:31 PM
I couldn't get even get 2 minutes into Bugsnax before deleting it off my SSD as fast as possible, it was so bad.  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 17, 2020, 01:28:09 PM
I couldn't get even get 2 minutes into Bugsnax before deleting it off my SSD as fast as possible, it was so bad.  :doge

I played like 30-40 mins and enjoyed it. But definitely last on my list of PS5 games to get to.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on November 17, 2020, 01:35:56 PM
Tomorrow is Euro launch.

1 of the largest online retailers in the Netherlands will get a grand total of drum roll.... 200 units. They expected 2000,
So they're not doing pre-orders, instead you had to send them a picture of your shoe (Sinterklaas thing like a Christmas sock) and they will pick 200 lucky contestants who can then order a PS5  from the store. Every step of the process the copy is like: "Don't expect to receive one", "Do you really want to bother doing this?"  :lol

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 17, 2020, 01:44:24 PM
i hope zwarte piet blesses all my dutch bredren with a ps5 this year ;)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 17, 2020, 01:47:03 PM
I am looking forward to bugsnax lol. the trailers were rad.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on November 17, 2020, 02:03:37 PM
i hope zwarte piet blesses all my dutch bredren with a ps5 this year ;)
I wasn't thinking about buying one but still no Zen 3 in stock or anything else for that matter so I've joined the shoe lottery for fun.
They're also going for 1000 - 1500 Euro on eBay and other places already.

I'd rather have a Zen 3 CPU but it seems like a good investment  :success
Maybe I can trade the PS5 for a 5800X or 5900X  :thinking
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on November 17, 2020, 02:55:50 PM
i hope zwarte piet blesses all my dutch bredren with a ps5 this year ;)

May Knack bless you all on November 18!
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on November 17, 2020, 03:03:06 PM
hardware manufacturers
Influencer + review units: 632309
Retail units: 183

Halp I can't meet demand
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: remy on November 17, 2020, 05:38:37 PM
I feel like flipping a ps5 for pc parts now then rebuying one down the line is the  :brain play even if immoral
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 17, 2020, 05:56:37 PM
yeah, i looked up what they're reselling for here earlier and there are a bunch at 1500 with the bids starting at console cost ($820). i feel like putting it up on an auction site with reserve at retail and letting "the market decide" is fair play. i am also really enjoying the console, but having more money for christmas holidays would be p dope  :-[
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 17, 2020, 06:02:30 PM
i also just resold an old VR headset i bought 2 years ago (a pimax 4k) for 3x what i originally paid ($300) off a $1 reserve start. people outchea crazy
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on November 17, 2020, 07:05:25 PM
i also just resold an old VR headset i bought 2 years ago (a pimax 4k) for 3x what i originally paid ($300) off a $1 reserve start. people outchea crazy
:crazy
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: headwalk on November 18, 2020, 12:08:22 AM
I feel like flipping a ps5 for pc parts now then rebuying one down the line is the  :brain play even if immoral

you can use your scalped PS5 funds to pay for a scalped 3080.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: remy on November 18, 2020, 01:23:01 AM
I feel like flipping a ps5 for pc parts now then rebuying one down the line is the  :brain play even if immoral

you can use your scalped PS5 funds to pay for a scalped 3080.
i get to get a 3080 and the scalper gets to buy more OFF-WHITE sneakers  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on November 18, 2020, 01:25:20 AM
in the end we all win. inch of allah
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 18, 2020, 04:20:10 AM
Tomorrow is Euro launch.

1 of the largest online retailers in the Netherlands will get a grand total of drum roll.... 200 units. They expected 2000,
So they're not doing pre-orders, instead you had to send them a picture of your shoe (Sinterklaas thing like a Christmas sock) and they will pick 200 lucky contestants who can then order a PS5  from the store. Every step of the process the copy is like: "Don't expect to receive one", "Do you really want to bother doing this?"  :lol

I like the people using their dead child to get a console.

Some dutch directness.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on November 18, 2020, 10:53:13 AM
My order was done and processed within the first 10 min of pre order here, and I dont have one.

But then I also hear another danish retailer (one of the biggest ones, proshop) apparently have not even gotten any yet.

Sony care even less than Nvidia about us tier 5 countries.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mupepe on November 18, 2020, 04:06:56 PM
My order was done and processed within the first 10 min of pre order here, and I dont have one.

But then I also hear another danish retailer (one of the biggest ones, proshop) apparently have not even gotten any yet.

Sony care even less than Nvidia about us tier 5 countries.
I ordered on launch day from Amazon and haven't gotten mine. It's been "shipped" since Saturday too. But at least now it's moving and tracking says it will be here tomorrow.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 18, 2020, 04:16:41 PM
Hope you guys get yours soon.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 18, 2020, 05:15:39 PM
Persona 5 Scramble runs locked perfect smooth 60fps in resolution mode. Both in P5 Shibuya cityscapes and musou combat areas.
Great news for the western release. It's still in my backlog so will be nice to play sometime.

If there's a western release.  :gloomy

Eh, it's a franchise that sells hundreds of thousands of copies. It'll come for sure. Atlus just seems to take forever to localize large amounts of dialogue and P5 Scramble is supposedly like 1/2 the length of Persona 5.

https://www.gematsu.com/2020/11/english-version-of-persona-5-scramble-the-phantom-strikers-listed-by-asian-retailers-for-february-23-2021-release

:rejoice
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 18, 2020, 05:59:49 PM
Obviously I want a PS5. But now that I’m done whining and playing Miles on PS4, I have to say I think It looks pretty good.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on November 18, 2020, 06:06:54 PM
I always get the impression in the US nobody does pre-orders without that being backed by an order from a distributor.  It all sometimes fails and distribution doesn't always happen as planned but they don't take your order unless it's backed by something.

In various European countries on the other hand, it seems common for stores to run "waiting list" style pre-orders, where they just know they'll eventually get stock, and hope you stay on their list for when it's in.
Most of them don't even order stock until they get pre-orders, especially during COVID times.

They will just sit on 500k or a million worth of hardware orders and then trickle them out for 6 months.

Some have taken like 1800 "pre-orders" for the Ryzen 5950X and shipped a total of 2 in 3 weeks.
Meanwhile you can order systems for next-day delivery that they assemble for you with the same hardware for $3000  :lol

They're just prioritizing bundles and systems that they assemble themselves under the guise of 'different suppliers'.
Some aren't even giving any estimates of waiting list positions or the expected delivery times.

"Sorry, here's a $5 gift card in return for your $700 deposit lawl"

I expect a few of these stores to go belly up so I'm not joining any waiting list  :doge

One store that doesn't carry PS5's put them up anyway and sold about a 100, only to inform people it was an error and they'll be refunded within 7 business days.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on November 18, 2020, 07:14:42 PM
looking at demons souls right now and feeling the PAIN
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on November 18, 2020, 07:27:29 PM
looking at demons souls right now and feeling the PAIN

Coincidentally, PAIN is the next Bluepoint remake  :jeb
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 18, 2020, 07:59:51 PM
Apparently there were 180,000 available for Japanese launch. JFC. There were a MILLION for the PS2 on day one and we fought tooth and fuckin' nail for those.

(BTW Japan got 20,000 Xbox Series models lol)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on November 19, 2020, 02:53:40 AM
Obviously I want a PS5. But now that I’m done whining and playing Miles on PS4, I have to say I think It looks pretty good.
Once you get over that FOMO hype machine of the first few launch weeks, you'll see it actually makes no sense to obsess over getting your hands on a console that has 99% of its shit be multiplatform (with God of War also rumored to be).
It's a marathon of 7+ years, there's no reason to obsess over getting it now, unless you're really desperate to play the Demon's Souls remastered, for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 19, 2020, 03:52:37 AM
I mostly want one cause I never got a PS4 Pro. Still got like 40 games in my PS4 backlog.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BisMarckie on November 19, 2020, 07:44:32 AM
Got lucky today, I was able to order a PS 5. Will be here before christmas. Every site was getting hammered but good old Otto Versand (shout out to my fellow German Borians) came through.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on November 19, 2020, 08:13:08 AM
I also got another order in that should be here 10 december.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: archnemesis on November 19, 2020, 09:25:21 AM
My PS5 is also scheduled for December. That's good enough for me. Now I have to consider if I need a new TV.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rufus on November 19, 2020, 09:42:21 AM
Got lucky today, I was able to order a PS 5. Will be here before christmas. Every site was getting hammered but good old Otto Versand (shout out to my fellow German Borians) came through.
Way back when, my mom bought my PlayStation from them, inadvertently dooming me. :winning
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mupepe on November 19, 2020, 03:15:11 PM
Woo hoo!! It came in. The friggin Amazon box is insanely beat up but the ps5 box doesn’t look too bad.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BisMarckie on November 19, 2020, 03:32:25 PM
I also got another order in that should be here 10 december.

Proshop or coolshop? Tried it there as well :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 19, 2020, 03:34:15 PM
Gamestop currently has PS5 bundles for sale.  Online-only.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 19, 2020, 04:28:53 PM
Tried out PSVR on PS5.

Blood & Truth looks A LOT better. Like it was actually pretty fine & playable coming from Valve Index. Yeah it's lower resolution, but it's not like pixelated low res gross and runs smooth. The higher resolution makes a huge difference and the higher stable framerate is nice. Wish more PSVR games had gotten updated.

That said when I exited PSVR the PS5 OS was running like 20 fps struggling which was kinda scary? I shut off the system and turned it back on and it was back to normal, PSVR may be a bit wacky.

If you still have your PS4 Pro hooked up, no reason to play PSVR on PS5 unless you're going to play Blood & Truth or Firewall which are the only two that got updates I think.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mr. Nobody on November 19, 2020, 06:16:22 PM
Never in my life have I had to work to spend $500  :birdman
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on November 19, 2020, 07:40:07 PM
Tried out PSVR on PS5.

Blood & Truth looks A LOT better. Like it was actually pretty fine & playable coming from Valve Index. Yeah it's lower resolution, but it's not like pixelated low res gross and runs smooth. The higher resolution makes a huge difference and the higher stable framerate is nice. Wish more PSVR games had gotten updated.

That said when I exited PSVR the PS5 OS was running like 20 fps struggling which was kinda scary? I shut off the system and turned it back on and it was back to normal, PSVR may be a bit wacky.

If you still have your PS4 Pro hooked up, no reason to play PSVR on PS5 unless you're going to play Blood & Truth or Firewall which are the only two that got updates I think.
It seems like the future of VR other than the Valve Index is stand-alone devices like the Oculus Quest. Not sure if they're going to bark up the VR tree again as it sorta split development resources.
Move was only a one generation thing after all.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: DJ Bedroom on November 19, 2020, 08:26:00 PM
Spider-Man remastered keeps crashing ;_______;
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 19, 2020, 09:04:36 PM
i had constant crashing with demon's souls. deleted and reinstalled it and i haven't had one crash since  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on November 19, 2020, 09:14:30 PM
a friend of mine couldnt get past the character creator, due to it hard crashing. also reinstalled. still didnt work. got past the character creator by just pressing X really quickly through it. thought it was 'fixed'. then it crashed again  .


astrobot worked fine though. but cant get demons souls to work at all. consoles are full 90's pc's


I also got another order in that should be here 10 december.

Proshop or coolshop? Tried it there as well :lol

BR of all places. are you danish? it's an old kids toy store that went bankrupt a few years ago, but their online shopping still up at least
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mupepe on November 19, 2020, 10:02:50 PM
Miles Morales is pretty damn fun and gorgeous for being so open.

But half the time when I’m running the streets, I get an alert that is crime is taking place but nothing indicating where. Like 1/5 times I see the red exclamation of where it actually is. Not sure if it’s a bug or the actual design. But anyhoo, it’s fun as hell to hop on top of a car and yank the drive out with web and then stop the car.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: G The Resurrected on November 19, 2020, 10:18:13 PM
Someone was returning a digital only PS5 at Target while I was at guest services returning a game. The team leader looked at the person and asked: “Are you sure you want to return this?!” Meanwhile one of Targets COVID sanitation workers looked on desperately holding back emotions because they had their hearts set on getting one but couldn’t afford it. The person returned it and the team leader had a Target lp cop take it to the electronics area for lock up. I get back there after exchanging out a game and there’s the Team leader with the PS5 buying it. I’m like fuck that shit! But then (and this got me) they called over the sanitation member and gifted them the PS5 and told them that they would be getting thanksgiving off so they can enjoy it. For all the shit they’ve been putting up with people during these times they deserve so much more respect and kindness.

I cried, it was super emotional up in the Target tonight y’all! Even the LP dude was choking up.



Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 19, 2020, 11:02:15 PM
Feel good story of the thread!

i had constant crashing with demon's souls. deleted and reinstalled it and i haven't had one crash since  :doge

I had one crash in the Nexus and that was it in DS luckily.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: G The Resurrected on November 19, 2020, 11:46:37 PM
I was not expecting that tonight when dumping COD off for Demon Souls. Finding the games for these new systems in store has been almost a similar affair to the consoles themselves and getting them. I’ve been looking all over for Demon Souls at Target.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: DJ Bedroom on November 19, 2020, 11:55:19 PM
I was not expecting that tonight when dumping COD off for Demon Souls. Finding the games for these new systems in store has been almost a similar affair to the consoles themselves and getting them. I’ve been looking all over for Demon Souls at Target.
Really? Only the Walmart near me is sold out, but the best buy and target has all the launch games in stock
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 20, 2020, 08:02:58 AM
I come downstairs this morning and walk by the PS5, and the orange standby light was pulsing slowly, and the DS controller that's been plugged up to the front via USB, had it's charge glowing too... my initial thought, "sweet. the latest update allowed front USB port charging in standby too".... then after a few seconds, it stops....   :huh   Does it kick in standby/low power mode when an update comes in and then shut down again?  I dunno.  Weird.   
I do know that I'm having serious withdraws.. haven't been able to play it since last Saturday, I've been so busy.  :noah
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 20, 2020, 03:20:46 PM
So I've never had an issue with the small hard drive spaces in PS4, but PS5's stupid bullshit "other" category is crap.

It basically installs PS4 games almost twice, because you get them in the game storage category with the full size and then each PS4 game adds like 20gb+ to "other" storage unless you keep them on an external drive.

My "other" category is 114gb of the 667gb right now and I'm down to 94gb free. Had to delete Demon's Souls & EDF5 to get to 150gb free again.

Going to buy a stupid external drive to keep the PS4 games on since supposedly that drops "Other" down to 13gb and should free up most of the drive. Just need to figure out what a good external drive is.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 20, 2020, 03:43:19 PM
So I've never had an issue with the small hard drive spaces in PS4, but PS5's stupid bullshit "other" category is crap.

It basically installs PS4 games almost twice, because you get them in the game storage category with the full size and then each PS4 game adds like 20gb+ to "other" storage unless you keep them on an external drive.

My "other" category is 114gb of the 667gb right now and I'm down to 94gb free. Had to delete Demon's Souls & EDF5 to get to 150gb free again.

Going to buy a stupid external drive to keep the PS4 games on since supposedly that drops "Other" down to 13gb and should free up most of the drive. Just need to figure out what a good external drive is.
I got my PS4 games on a WD Element 2TB.  They've run totally fine so far, and some games load arguably quicker in a slight sense... can't confirm yet.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 20, 2020, 03:54:30 PM
Been researching and ended up going with a Samsung T7 1tb for $150. It seems for PS4 BC only that the T5 at $130 would have been just as good, but the T7 transfers the games over at 2x the speed and I could always use it on PC rig. So for $20 more it seemed worth going for the T7. Definitely overkill. But that's about all the space I need since half my library on PS5 are PS4 games.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on November 20, 2020, 04:10:55 PM
1TB fills up pretty fast these days but that should last you a while, nice!
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 20, 2020, 06:21:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIjg3qyDkQs
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 20, 2020, 07:22:00 PM
So VRR is confirmed as coming in a patch to PS5.

I guess between games supporting VRR, 120hz, HDR, 4k when I do get a new tv at some point in 2021 I should look for one that ticks all those boxes.

I mean while I love playing games at 144hz g-sync on my 1440p PC monitor, I'm ok with 30fps or 60fps on tv if they're stable with good clean imaqe quality. I've never seen 30fps work on PC the way it can on console locked games that give them a smooth 30fps appearance.

So basically I'll take any games that do over 60hz, but if console games start pushing visuals more and go back to 30fps I'm ok with that too. Feels like outside smaller games, 120hz would be pretty rare. You basically need to be running stuff with PS4-era visuals to lock 120fps though I guess that's what VRR is for.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: headwalk on November 20, 2020, 10:38:39 PM
30FPS needs to be consigned to the gaming dustbin, never to return.

120+ for action games, 60 for cinematic. any scab game that tries to break the 60fps picket line gets their legs broken.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mupepe on November 21, 2020, 10:41:20 AM
So my PS5 has randomly beeped - really loudly - three times. Yesterday it did it while I was playing just once. I didn’t know it was the ps5 actually until today. This morning it did it again just once and really short. Then a few minutes later it did it and it was a long solid beep. When I paused the game it stopped. That’s when I knew it was the PS5 for sure. No errors or crashes when it happened. But wtf.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 21, 2020, 11:29:29 AM
So my PS5 has randomly beeped - really loudly - three times. Yesterday it did it while I was playing just once. I didn’t know it was the ps5 actually until today. This morning it did it again just once and really short. Then a few minutes later it did it and it was a long solid beep. When I paused the game it stopped. That’s when I knew it was the PS5 for sure. No errors or crashes when it happened. But wtf.

IIRC this is what the PS4 does when it's checking data but could also indicate a hardware issue.  Maybe it's the same thing?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on November 21, 2020, 11:50:15 AM
Yeah I think my ps4 always did that, if i hadnt turned it off properly.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 21, 2020, 12:52:52 PM
DeS crashed last night when heading back to the nexus once.  :doge
Didn't lose anything and it loaded right back up in a matter of seconds so... All good. :-[
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 21, 2020, 01:10:18 PM
For whatever reason, I was under the impression that the "PS Plus Collections" was an instant free library to said games... If that's not the case, the way they advertise it is piss poor.  Stupid of me to think that these were all free (even though I own most of them).  :snoop

I'm still annoyed and going to continue to bitch that Horizon and Bloodborne have not been updated yet.  At this point, I guess it's safe to say they have other plans of beefing them up and reselling them down the line.  :-\
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mupepe on November 21, 2020, 01:22:59 PM
So my PS5 has randomly beeped - really loudly - three times. Yesterday it did it while I was playing just once. I didn’t know it was the ps5 actually until today. This morning it did it again just once and really short. Then a few minutes later it did it and it was a long solid beep. When I paused the game it stopped. That’s when I knew it was the PS5 for sure. No errors or crashes when it happened. But wtf.

IIRC this is what the PS4 does when it's checking data but could also indicate a hardware issue.  Maybe it's the same thing?

Yeah I think my ps4 always did that, if i hadnt turned it off properly.
In the middle of playing a game though? And with no prompts or errors? The first two times it beeped it just did it once and then not again. The third time was constant until I paused. And they were REALLY loud. Like that I thought my UPS or maybe even the fire alarm were making the noise instead.

Spider-Man did freeze up twice yesterday and the 2nd time the controller basically stopped responding and then a few minutes later the screen went black. I did hard resets on both and got the hard drive fix screen when it booted back up.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 21, 2020, 01:31:41 PM
For whatever reason, I was under the impression that the "PS Plus Collections" was an instant free library to said games... If that's not the case, the way they advertise it is piss poor.

It is an instant free library though;  just redeem them and they are in your account as long as you have PS+.

When I look up FFXV(RE), it still prompts me to purchase though.  ???
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 21, 2020, 01:42:55 PM
There's a PS Plus Collection menu item in the PS Plus area on the PS5;  that's where I "redeemed" them.  FFX shows up there.
Ah.. Maybe because I'm trying to go through the app and not the PS5 itself.  :ohhh
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 21, 2020, 02:02:26 PM
So my PS5 has randomly beeped - really loudly - three times. Yesterday it did it while I was playing just once. I didn’t know it was the ps5 actually until today. This morning it did it again just once and really short. Then a few minutes later it did it and it was a long solid beep. When I paused the game it stopped. That’s when I knew it was the PS5 for sure. No errors or crashes when it happened. But wtf.

IIRC this is what the PS4 does when it's checking data but could also indicate a hardware issue.  Maybe it's the same thing?

Yeah I think my ps4 always did that, if i hadnt turned it off properly.
In the middle of playing a game though? And with no prompts or errors? The first two times it beeped it just did it once and then not again. The third time was constant until I paused. And they were REALLY loud. Like that I thought my UPS or maybe even the fire alarm were making the noise instead.

Spider-Man did freeze up twice yesterday and the 2nd time the controller basically stopped responding and then a few minutes later the screen went black. I did hard resets on both and got the hard drive fix screen when it booted back up.

Yeah, I don't think those beeps are normal. I had a weird DMC5 SE crash last night where it just stopped the game, beeped and showed an error message, dumped me back to the OS, but then I hit DMC5 and it resumed like all it had done was pause the game and not crash.

PS5 OS is so buggy rn.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 21, 2020, 02:06:04 PM
Need dat stability.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: mormapope on November 21, 2020, 02:07:07 PM
All videogame software this Fall has been buggy and fucked up, doesn't matter if it's next gen consoles, PC, I've read more about games crashing or weird shit happening recently vs. the past few years.

It's not unexpected with Covid, but It's definitely a sign of what to expect for the next six months.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on November 21, 2020, 02:30:40 PM
Is that PS+ collection thing for a limited time only or will it still be there if I get a PS5 next year?

Also what titles are in it?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Akala on November 21, 2020, 02:32:30 PM
We all testers now  :rejoice
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 21, 2020, 02:46:49 PM
Guess I'm in no hurry since I own all of those.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 21, 2020, 03:14:01 PM
Just downloaded FFXV in rest mode.. phone notified me when it was done.  :pimp
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 21, 2020, 03:23:32 PM
I'd bet the PS+ collection lasts at least a year. PS+ has always had some yearly games that would stick around for an entire year in addition to the one month only ones.

But yeah, I'm in the same boat where I basically own/played all of them already outside of Fallout 4 which I should probably try though playing a Bethesda game without PC mods is  :doge

Also don't have/haven't tried the FPS war ones with Battlefield/CoD BLOPs III, but just not into war shooters anymore.

But hey, some of them I only have on disc, so it's nice getting them digital like Monster Hunter (which comes with Iceborne).
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tasty on November 21, 2020, 05:54:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VifK8AuNraU

:lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 21, 2020, 06:53:05 PM
30FPS needs to be consigned to the gaming dustbin, never to return.

120+ for action games, 60 for cinematic. any scab game that tries to break the 60fps picket line gets their legs broken.

Eh, I am perfectly ok with 30fps in certain situations.
Fighting games, driving games, platformers, character action games need to be 60fps. Always have, always will.


The walky talky shooty cinematic stuff that Sony does a lot of? Nah, gimme 30fps and push the visuals as far as possible. I mean Spider-Man PS5 gives you the option of 30fps/60fps and I'm picking 30fps there. Reading some threads on Miles, it seems most people are preferring to play at 30fps with the nicer visuals.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 21, 2020, 09:05:16 PM
30FPS needs to be consigned to the gaming dustbin, never to return.

120+ for action games, 60 for cinematic. any scab game that tries to break the 60fps picket line gets their legs broken.

Eh, I am perfectly ok with 30fps in certain situations.
Fighting games, driving games, platformers, character action games need to be 60fps. Always have, always will.


The walky talky shooty cinematic stuff that Sony does a lot of? Nah, gimme 30fps and push the visuals as far as possible. I mean Spider-Man PS5 gives you the option of 30fps/60fps and I'm picking 30fps there. Reading some threads on Miles, it seems most people are preferring to play at 30fps with the nicer visuals.

Aren't we supposed to be at a point where we can have the nice visuals and 60 FPS?  Certainly is something I hope to see a lot more of with this console generation.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: benjipwns on November 21, 2020, 09:27:01 PM
Aren't we supposed to be at a point where we can have the nice visuals and 60 FPS?
:girlaff
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 21, 2020, 09:30:07 PM
You can always have nicer visuals with lower performance. Just look at PC benchmarks of cards beyond anything the new consoles can do. You want native 4k visuals with every graphic option maxed and ray-tracing? Enjoy 30fps.

Some genre the visuals flair outweighs the 60fps imo.

Spider-man looks nice at 60fps, it just looks nicer at 30fps.


But hopefully this gen they give players the option. That way both camps can be satisfied.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 21, 2020, 09:54:46 PM
So the PS4 games on the external hdd get boosts too??  I thought it required the PS4 game to be installed on the SSD.  :-[ I loaded up Monster Hunter and Fall Guys, and they loaded up pretty quick and ran at a solid 60fps.  :o   I'm so confused, but this is great.  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 22, 2020, 02:05:13 AM
I thought FFXV was supposed to be updated to a locked 60fps.   ???
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 22, 2020, 02:10:27 AM
Should be in performance mode (1080p), resolution mode (4k checkerboarding) was locked at 30fps on Pro.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 22, 2020, 03:06:30 AM
Should be in performance mode (1080p), resolution mode (4k checkerboarding) was locked at 30fps on Pro.
Thank you again!  This is great. I need to transfer my remaining PS4 games to the external.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 22, 2020, 05:33:36 AM
Best Buy came through.

We in baby. We in!
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on November 22, 2020, 06:35:13 AM
Is that PS+ collection thing for a limited time only or will it still be there if I get a PS5 next year?

Also what titles are in it?

Sony hasn't said.   Probably being purposefully coy, specifically because people like you will get FOMO lol

Quote
From Worldwide Studios:

Bloodborne
Days Gone
Detroit: Become Human
God of War
Infamous Second Son
Ratchet and Clank
The Last Guardian
The Last of Us Remastered
Until Dawn
Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End

From our third-party publishers and developers:

Batman: Arkham Knight
Battlefield 1
Call of Duty: Black Ops III – Zombies Chronicles Edition
Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy
Fallout 4
Final Fantasy XV Royal Edition
Monster Hunter: World
Mortal Kombat X
Persona 5
Resident Evil 7 biohazard

Thanks, that's okay, I own most of those games already on PS4. third party stuff on Steam. I wouldnt mind having a bore bro activating all this shit on my PS account, but then again I would need PS+ and I dont have that right now. Or can you activate it for all profiles on your machine if you have one user with PS+? Probably not.

Oh well, no bother.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 22, 2020, 08:27:31 PM
small things, but swapping out to the spotify app then back into a game is so much smoother than even my pc and control from my phone is perfect. the best spotify integration in any device i have lol. plex app is still a bit janky, but once that's good i'll prob get rid of my shield tv and use ps5 as the main source in my av setup.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 22, 2020, 08:49:11 PM
How is the PS5 as a blu-ray player and media player in general?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 22, 2020, 08:58:57 PM
fine, but not licensing dolby tech is probably a dealbreaker for some (no vision/atmos support). the disc drive is the loudest part of the machine, but still the occasional "brrrrrrr" vs *jet engine noises*
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 22, 2020, 09:08:59 PM
also really dislike smart tv's having hardware buttons for apps like netflix. ps5 remote has prime, netflix, spotify and disney lol. i am interested to know how many people actually like these things, and how much manufacturers get paid for including that button. happens so often, someone grabbing the remote, hitting the big chunky netflix button with their butter fingers and kicking you out of whatever other app you're using (it's always plex. paid streaming for delayed content and a trove of half baked content? lmao, gtfoh)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 23, 2020, 12:06:25 AM
All Smart TV OS’s are fucking trash. Unplugged my C9 from the internet after initial setup. Fuck this
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tasty on November 23, 2020, 12:16:21 AM
Yeah the general security advice I give re:smart TVs, is don't.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: El Babua on November 23, 2020, 03:46:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmggkW6usmQ&t=879s

tldr: Memory runs hot af. SOC temps aren't too bad, but Sony fucked up elements of their cooling design once again.  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mupepe on November 23, 2020, 09:15:31 AM
fine, but not licensing dolby tech is probably a dealbreaker for some (no vision/atmos support). the disc drive is the loudest part of the machine, but still the occasional "brrrrrrr" vs *jet engine noises*
oof. I didn't realize they didn't go with Dolby. Wow.


I don't know what's really different about this controller, but I love it. The Xbox controllers have been my preferred since the 360 came out, but I really, really like the dual sense even though there wasn't a huge design change. It just  feels better. I'll give it some time but it might end up being my favorite.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on November 23, 2020, 11:55:03 AM
Downloading Demon’s Souls and Spider-Man is queued right up.

We in brehs  :rejoice
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nuitangg on November 23, 2020, 01:39:53 PM
Astrobot > Shitboy
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 23, 2020, 02:00:24 PM
Yeah, that's crazy PS5's media player doesn't support Dolby sound. Wtf.

I still have a boring ass 5.1 receiver that still sounds great and my room is small and no reason to upgrade until I move somewhere else. But in terms of future proofing as a media player for 7.1 Atmos and stuff...yikes. Sounds like I'd need to get a separate 4k Blu-ray player at that point if I cared.

I stream everything at this point tho, don't even know what sound stuff streaming movies are using these days.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 23, 2020, 02:13:53 PM
I'm wondering if Sony are going to be doing something like interpreting dolby and converting it to their tempest 3d audio or whatever. I have 5.0, no sub but still sounds a hell of a lot better than atmos setups I've used. better to have a few good speakers than a lot of shit ones. I would love to get a half decent sub at some point though.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nuitangg on November 23, 2020, 02:15:06 PM
 I was hoping to ditch my 4k player but neither console supports Dolby Vision.  Vudu has quite a few movies with Atmos tracks.  Release a next gen consoles that supports neither is   :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 23, 2020, 02:17:15 PM
Yeah, I actually unhooked my sub to move it to another room for a movie night and never moved it back so I'm actually running 5.0 myself in my gaming room. Since I live in a condo with neighbors on both sides I can't really turn up the bass, so don't notice the difference.

I do have good speakers though. I've always spent the time & money finding good speakers since they make a big difference. I play a lot of my PC stuff with nice headphones and they just don't compare to my speakers on my couch setup.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 23, 2020, 02:23:17 PM
from what I understand if the file / blu Ray you're playing has 3d audio encoded the PS5 will still engage the heights in an atmos setup, but using Sony's implementation. I'm pretty fresh / ignorant abt how 3d audio works though.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on November 23, 2020, 02:35:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmggkW6usmQ&t=879s

tldr: Memory runs hot af. SOC temps aren't too bad, but Sony fucked up elements of their cooling design once again.  :doge
OH SHIT Snoy, Steve from Gamers Nexus is coming for your thermals

I watched a ton of his stuff on watercooling and PC builds and now my CPU runs at a cool 32c idle and 56c under heavy load  :mynicca

It's weird tho all these tech channels focus on PS5, it's like the Xbox Series X doesn't even exist  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 23, 2020, 02:36:10 PM
sry, moving away from the fud of whatever sites I was reading, still available for blu rays, but not apps or games.

all the other dolby audio codecs supported as normal.

https://blog.playstation.com/2020/11/09/ps5-the-ultimate-faq/#bluraydiscs

Quote
Dolby ATMOS and DTS:X available for Blu-ray and Ultra HD Blu-ray disc video (when connected to a supported device

Quote
PS5 will support the following audio formats:

Dolby Digital (max 5.1ch)
Dolby Digital Plus (max 7.1ch)
Dolby TrueHD (max 7.1ch)
DTS (max 5.1ch)
DTS-HD High Resolution Audio (max 7.1ch)
DTS-HD Master Audio (max 7.1ch)
AAC (max 5.1ch)
Linear PCM (max 7.1ch)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on November 23, 2020, 02:44:46 PM
Sony quality not being bothered to put a headsink on their GDDR6.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nuitangg on November 23, 2020, 03:30:23 PM
Steve said he plans to do the same for the X/S you idiot.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 23, 2020, 03:34:57 PM
Sony quality not being bothered to put a headsink on their GDDR6.

Fwiw, a developer that does breakdowns in the Era thread said Steve removed some ram thermal to measure ram temps which could have affected the temps themselves on the ram. They said they didn't do a similar measure of temp on the ram because they couldn't figure out any way to measure the ram without removing the thermal on it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rufus on November 23, 2020, 04:41:20 PM
More headroom is always nice, but if they run it within spec... I'm more interested in their custom NAND controller.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Akala on November 23, 2020, 05:00:11 PM
seems like we'll know sooner than later if shit's frying though
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on November 23, 2020, 05:08:57 PM
So Astrobutt has a PAIN reference, while in Demon’s Souls you can’t write “Try finger, but hole.”

I think the true GOTY is clear  :snob
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 23, 2020, 06:41:47 PM
Army is a snoy-boy? :tocry
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on November 23, 2020, 07:17:53 PM
:miyamoto
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Ghoul on November 23, 2020, 08:07:57 PM
Had some weird issues with mine with copying games that actually don’t copy and some other weird OS bugs.

Reading I may need to reformat the drive is pretty shit considering I’ve only had it since Thursday...

Oh and also the downloading of PS4 games instead of PS5 then locking it to last gen is like ???

Everyone laughed about smart delivery but I wish Sony had something similar.

The controller is cool, but I’m hardly impressed with just how beta testing this feels.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 23, 2020, 09:59:14 PM
I think we made fun of Smart Delivery because we assumed that Sony would do the same thing and it was a gimme. Um nope, there's a clear disconnect between PS4/PS5 content as compared to XSX, where everything is kinda mashed together on the stores (but it's harder to find XSX exclusive/enhanced content). Might be the case of the left hand not talking to the right on the Sony side, idk
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 24, 2020, 03:03:25 AM
I’m guessing one of the main reasons ps5 doesn’t have proper smart delivery is cos they’re planning on selling an enhanced version of last of us 2 next year knowing it will sell :success
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 24, 2020, 07:21:43 AM
I’m guessing one of the main reasons ps5 doesn’t have proper smart delivery is cos they’re planning on selling an enhanced version of last of us 2 next year knowing it will sell :success
Same with Bloodborne and Horizon....  the only games I really wanted BC for.  :goty
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Ghoul on November 24, 2020, 07:26:37 AM
bloodborne is apart of the ps4 package and does run better on PS5 than it does on PS4 at least. Doubt Horizon will be remade for PS5 as the new one seems to be PS4/5 cross gen lol

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 24, 2020, 08:15:22 AM
bloodborne is apart of the ps4 package and does run better on PS5 than it does on PS4 at least. Doubt Horizon will be remade for PS5 as the new one seems to be PS4/5 cross gen lol
Both are still locked at 30fps which I find utterly unacceptable now.  :snob
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 24, 2020, 08:18:49 AM
I'm really hoping for a Horizon 1 patch when 2 gets close to release. The pro version looked awesome and I'd definitely replay it at 60 fps.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on November 24, 2020, 10:47:01 AM
bloodborne is apart of the ps4 package and does run better on PS5 than it does on PS4 at least. Doubt Horizon will be remade for PS5 as the new one seems to be PS4/5 cross gen lol
How does it run better? Genuine quesiton because the PS4PRO with boost mode already smoothed out those frame drops it had, but didn't do shit for the awful framepacing.
So i don't see how more raw power, without someone going in with their hands on the code, can actually help in any way?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on November 24, 2020, 12:07:24 PM
going FPS nazi on Bloodborne :snore

naturally reduced load times :drool
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tuckers Law on November 24, 2020, 12:12:58 PM
bloodborne is apart of the ps4 package and does run better on PS5 than it does on PS4 at least. Doubt Horizon will be remade for PS5 as the new one seems to be PS4/5 cross gen lol
How does it run better? Genuine quesiton because the PS4PRO with boost mode already smoothed out those frame drops it had, but didn't do shit for the awful framepacing.
So i don't see how more raw power, without someone going in with their hands on the code, can actually help in any way?

I still remember how loud the fan would get when you go into the map screen for Horizon, PS4 Pro sounded like it was preparing to take off for a sortie against some Russian MIGS.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on November 24, 2020, 12:21:13 PM
going FPS nazi on Bloodborne :snore

naturally reduced load times :drool

The stutters are garbage
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Akala on November 24, 2020, 04:38:22 PM
have a feeling they will go back and at least uncap some first party stuff.  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 24, 2020, 04:47:27 PM
tried a session in demon's in "cinematic mode" aka 30fps jank and there's a lot of stutter there too. i am old and can barely tell the difference in image quality between performance and cinematic, but the motion is night and day. took some screens and you can see the surface detail/resolution is a little sharper, fog effects and lighting are more detailed but in action i would never notice.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: headwalk on November 24, 2020, 05:25:15 PM
going FPS nazi on Bloodborne :snore

naturally reduced load times :drool

FPS nazis run their 1080p 240hz monitors at 75% resolution scale and drop to goldeneye tier settings so they don't drop frames.

60fps ain't that. it's a nice, attainable standard that remains fluid while still having a generous 16ms frametime.

anything below that and you might aswell save yourself $498 and get a viewmaster from a charity shop.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tuckers Law on November 24, 2020, 06:24:39 PM
All about those buttery smooth framerates.

(https://i.imgur.com/MVsUXPa.png)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on November 24, 2020, 07:57:35 PM
going FPS nazi on Bloodborne :snore

naturally reduced load times :drool
Wanting them to fix the sub 30fps with dogshit framepacing isn't nazi tho.
Meanwhile they get 60fps 4k patch for Days Gone.  :comeon

Sony'll put RT on Knack before they touch BB in any way, for whatever reason...
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 24, 2020, 08:05:04 PM
I was sure they'd do something for bloodborne, especially since it is part of the PS+ collection.

Maybe Sony really is working on a bigger overhaul and that rumored PC release?  *shrug*
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 24, 2020, 10:16:08 PM
So this is weird, if you go to profile and games it will show you your game playtime for every game played for the last ___ years.

This information has never been available on PS3/4. So the fact that is has games you played 2 years ago down to their playtime means it was stat tracking this but just had no way to show you it.

Crazy. I always appreciate this for games that don't have game time listed in-game. Switch a bit and Steam especially are really useful for figuring out how long a game actually was. Now can do that on Playstation as well.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 25, 2020, 08:46:41 AM
Warframe gets it's PS5 patch tomorrow.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on November 25, 2020, 11:05:19 AM
So this is weird, if you go to profile and games it will show you your game playtime for every game played for the last ___ years.

This information has never been available on PS3/4. So the fact that is has games you played 2 years ago down to their playtime means it was stat tracking this but just had no way to show you it.

Crazy. I always appreciate this for games that don't have game time listed in-game. Switch a bit and Steam especially are really useful for figuring out how long a game actually was. Now can do that on Playstation as well.

Sometimes Sony would provide your most played games at the end of a year. No idea why they just didn't do it normally.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on November 25, 2020, 11:45:17 AM
So this is weird, if you go to profile and games it will show you your game playtime for every game played for the last ___ years.

This information has never been available on PS3/4. So the fact that is has games you played 2 years ago down to their playtime means it was stat tracking this but just had no way to show you it.

Crazy. I always appreciate this for games that don't have game time listed in-game. Switch a bit and Steam especially are really useful for figuring out how long a game actually was. Now can do that on Playstation as well.

Sometimes Sony would provide your most played games at the end of a year. No idea why they just didn't do it normally.

They didn’t want us to feel bad about being lifeless losers.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on November 25, 2020, 12:02:32 PM
It's true :trumps Watching my 3DS log could be pretty depressing. But so is writing a thousand posts for the 'just finished' thread, so just give me the numbers.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 25, 2020, 04:40:45 PM
on steam i often feel a little bad because it clarifies how little time i put into games before dropping them. even when i really dig them i often complete one run on medium difficulty and am done with it as fast as possible.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Akala on November 25, 2020, 04:42:43 PM
at least you complete them  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 25, 2020, 05:28:55 PM
They make me question my understanding of time in the universe.

Like I play Astro's for 3 full nights all night long and it says game time 2 hours? Da fuck?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 25, 2020, 05:33:20 PM
Also AC Valhalla getting a patch tomorrow for 30fps 4k graphics fidelity mode and 60fps dynamic res mode (hopefully without tearing now on the latter).

My only concern is the PS5 version is like 60fps 99.9 of the time outside cutscenes with the current resolution/graphics enabled and is totally fine. I have a feeling the res/gfx are going to take a noticeable hit in performance mode to lock the 60fps in and get rid of the tearing.

I might just play it at 30fps. I'll try both and see.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 25, 2020, 05:49:38 PM
...my only concern is that you paid money for and are playing an AC game, plz do not
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 25, 2020, 06:08:36 PM
...my only concern is that you paid money for and are playing an AC game, plz do not

I'd like this snarky comment except that AC games are fun and harmless popcorn entertainment.

Like there are truly bad franchises out there, but AC while being same-y collect-a-thons with very iffy takes on historical fiction are all pretty fine popcorn entertainment games. Some people like their musou, some people like their AC, it's all comfort gaming.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 25, 2020, 06:10:59 PM
Also the Valhalla soundtrack is A+ from what I've heard and automatically makes it a worthwhile AC game. Jesper Kyd put in the weight on this.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 25, 2020, 09:22:07 PM
god of war runs at 60 fps in 4K!*

*only if you run the unpatched version off a disc  :goty2
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: DJ Bedroom on November 25, 2020, 10:45:25 PM
Yeah, I've been thinking about playing through it again, really hoping they put out an update for it
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: benjipwns on November 25, 2020, 11:30:07 PM
on steam i often feel a little bad because it clarifies how little time i put into games before dropping them. even when i really dig them i often complete one run on medium difficulty and am done with it as fast as possible.
haha yeah that's why we all feel bad about our steam libraries haha

yeah... haha... yeah
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: eleuin on November 26, 2020, 01:02:52 AM
https://twitter.com/AlyssaSaid__/status/1329065547145895937
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 26, 2020, 02:33:11 AM
omg the PS3, im dying
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tuckers Law on November 26, 2020, 05:09:31 AM
“You need to shut up, that’s why you there.”  :dead

The interstellar music.   :dead :dead
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Ghoul on November 26, 2020, 05:34:50 AM
god of war runs at 60 fps in 4K!*

*only if you run the unpatched version off a disc  :goty2

That makes no sense, why would you patch it to play worse?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 26, 2020, 07:21:57 AM
So they can sell you a remaster that plays at full 4K 60 in the future :success
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 26, 2020, 07:46:32 AM
The Last Guardian does the same thing.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on November 26, 2020, 08:24:03 AM
god of war runs at 60 fps in 4K!*

*only if you run the unpatched version off a disc  :goty2

That makes no sense, why would you patch it to play worse?

Because autistys don't like unlocked framerates.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on November 26, 2020, 08:54:37 AM
buying singleplayer games digitally :juicy you get what you deserve.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on November 26, 2020, 11:39:25 AM
With vrr becoming more of a standard, fps caps will hopefully die off.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Akala on November 26, 2020, 11:43:01 AM
The Last Guardian does the same thing.

I thought TLG was uncapped  :goty2
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 26, 2020, 03:28:33 PM
AC:V's patch today seems to resolve most of the screen tearing on both PS5 and Xbox Series X in 60fps mode. I still get some flying in the sky with the hawk, but on-foot not getting any even in big cities. Also doesn't look any worse than before from what I can tell though I'm sure resolution and some stuff got nerfed a bit.

30fps mode runs pretty choppy 30fps and has a littttle bit sharper/higher level of detail on 1080p. At 4k I'd imagine the difference is more stark with 30fps being native 4k. It's playable though in 30fps though, but I'll probably stick to 30fps.

Also annoyingly enough you have to reload the game entirely each time you switch which is a good 20 seconds or so.

30fps:
(https://i.imgur.com/MIKwJPdh.jpg)

60fps:
(https://i.imgur.com/nGVomJch.jpg)

Different time of day/lighting though. But 30fps is definitely sharper and slightly more detailed. Probably has better draw distance/LoD too.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 26, 2020, 06:07:52 PM
started playing borderlands 3 and yeah, the adaptive triggers are pretty neat but i only played a very small part of the intro so far.

jumped into astro bot to claim the final achievement for platinum (keep em uppies) where as the spring machine you have to juggle a beach ball 5 times. the trigger haptics are pretty intense in this machine and halfway through jumping around the gears inside my controller start making a really jarring "B rrrrrr r r r rrrrr" noise almost like gears grinding when depressing the triggers. thought this might end up happening, the adaptive trigger force is so intense it must put a lot of pressure on the internal components.

in borderlands 3 with the starting pistol it feels like you're almost going to snap something before the trigger pulls. felt really cool once i got used to it, but it's quite intense/strange.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 27, 2020, 06:35:13 AM
Damn, Youtube providing the vids I find important.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6hu3s9nIHE

Greedfall is also getting a next-gen update.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 27, 2020, 05:39:32 PM
Warframe patch.  :delicious
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 27, 2020, 08:08:16 PM
Well back to the start. Best Buy says order is delayed with possibility of it being canceled. Thanks for letting me know I guess.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 28, 2020, 07:47:14 AM
Greedfall is also getting a next-gen update.
I so badly wanted to love that game but it was just so damn bland.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on November 28, 2020, 07:54:01 AM
It's a randy shitford product what did you guys expect  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on November 28, 2020, 07:58:15 AM
It's a randy shitford product what did you guys expect  :lol

Isnt that Godfall and also they just published that
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on November 28, 2020, 08:04:20 AM
It's a randy shitford product what did you guys expect  :lol

Isnt that Godfall and also they just published that
ah yeah, I mixed them up.

Greedfall would've been a more apt name though
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 28, 2020, 12:44:02 PM
Wow.. Had no initial interest in Days Gone, but decided to give it a try last night.  Game looks rather impressive at 4K 60fps.  :o
Even though I'm not in a zombiish mood, I may jump back into this again when the mood strikes me. 

Tried N-sane Trilogy...  Still locked at 30fps for a 3D platformer??...
GTFOH with that shit.   :camby
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 28, 2020, 02:11:42 PM
Yeah I'm gonna get back to it after Legion, and Valhalla...and Ghosts...

I'm good on open world games for a while...
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tuckers Law on November 28, 2020, 04:32:59 PM
I’m excited for what they might be able to do mechanically for the Days Gone sequel on PS5, particularly the size and dynamism of hordes.  Hopefully they don’t phone it in.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 28, 2020, 04:51:10 PM
I'd want them to go back to their roots.

Bubsy 3D 2!
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 30, 2020, 09:28:11 PM
So I just discovered the Game Help feature.

This has the potential to be cool, but I have a feeling it's gonna be even less used than Activity Cards. Basically if you're like me and are like "wtf is Game Help", if you have PS+ then when you're in a level/mission and you hit the PS button and bring up the activity card, if the card has a PS+ lightbulb on it then if you click on the card you can watch videos for various things.

Basically an in-game wiki so you don't have to get up and go to google and wiki it.

But like in Sackboy, a game I've been wiki-ing a bit to try to find all the collectible items each stage, it will show you which collectible dreamer orbs you're missing in the level you're in and you can watch a short clip showing how to get it, but for costume part orbs, which are also collectibles, it just tells you what costume orb pieces you're missing but there's no videos. So you still need to get up and wiki it, which is less useful.

Also no video guides for beating levels with gold scores and without dying. You'd think they'd include a video walkthrough for each level or something.

And no videos in any game I can see for like trophy stuff. Which is what would be useful to click on a trophy and see a video how to get it. I mean I get that kind of crosses the line to what is the point of trophies if you can just watch a video on how to get them, but the reality is a lot of trophies are bullshit hidden stuff you have to wiki anyhow.

At least now I know this thing exists, so next time I'm gonna wiki something I'll pull up the activity card and see if it has the solution.

Like if Demon's Souls activity card for a stage had a list of equipment/rings/weapons in a stage and you could click on one and pull up a video on where to find it in the level...that would be really cool imo.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: chronovore on December 01, 2020, 02:22:51 AM
Has Days Gone ever been on PS Plus?


I'd want them to go back to their roots.

Bubsy 3D 2!
:lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on December 01, 2020, 02:45:35 AM
Nope, just PS5 PS+ collection
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on December 04, 2020, 07:48:33 AM
Managed to order one. Can't wait to start cleaning up my PS4 backlog. Stopped playing a bunch of games that'll run at 60 fps now.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on December 05, 2020, 11:53:48 PM
One thing that needs to fixed is when you delete a game off the PS5, the game artifact stays in the main menu ribbon. A way to get rid of it, you start downloading it again, then proceed to cancel and delete the download. This will make it disappear.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on December 06, 2020, 01:11:15 AM
One thing that needs to fixed is when you delete a game off the PS5, the game artifact stays in the main menu ribbon. A way to get rid of it, you start downloading it again, then proceed to cancel and delete the download. This will make it disappear.

Yeah, i hate this. At least there's a fix for it.

Also Ghost of Taushima's latest update won't install to an SSD on back usb and gives an error. i deleted the whole game and redownloaded with the latest version and it hard crashed the ps5 trying to start it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on December 06, 2020, 12:58:11 PM
I had to delete and redownload Ace Combat 7 from not loading initially.  Not a big deal, but there's a ton of things that could use some more ironing out for sure.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on December 06, 2020, 01:03:13 PM
https://youtu.be/WZ2B5sn31qc
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on December 06, 2020, 03:27:38 PM
I had to delete and redownload Ace Combat 7 from not loading initially.  Not a big deal, but there's a ton of things that could use some more ironing out for sure.

A better fan would've been nice. I got one of the noisy ones.

They also put the most shit disc drive possible in here making it pretty clear that the Digital version is the one they want to sell.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on December 06, 2020, 04:09:55 PM
So my PS5 software is all fucked up after the latest Ghost of Tsushima update yesterday. Now launching PS4 games off my external SSD hard crashes the system on booting the games the time.

I rebuilt the database and then I lost all my licenses and it wouldn't restore them giving me an error and I lost my whole digital game library  :-\

Then they suddenly appeared but the last game that hard crashed (ironically Crash 4) is stuck in a greyed out "installed" which won't let me see it under storage to delete it, won't let me play it and won't let me redownload it.

My only solution is to format the SSD and redownload all my PS4 games :| Doing that now. Hopefully this fixes whatever is fucked. I also moved my portable SSD from the back USB to the front USB-C port which might help from reading online.

Had zero issues with my external SSD until the Ghost patch yesterday broke it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on December 06, 2020, 04:11:45 PM
Also I got a new phone yesterday to replace a dying older one and was trying out remote play on PS5 which seemed honestly pretty great for a portable PS5/PS4 BC until this happened.

Ordered one of those phone controller things and with remote play this could be pretty useful for playing some games portable.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 06, 2020, 06:39:03 PM
I had to delete and redownload Ace Combat 7 from not loading initially.  Not a big deal, but there's a ton of things that could use some more ironing out for sure.

A better fan would've been nice. I got one of the noisy ones.

They also put the most shit disc drive possible in here making it pretty clear that the Digital version is the one they want to sell.
Well they sure have made it harder to buy that one if that's it.


I also have had some install issues, but nothing terrible.

I have an 8TB HDD for my PS4 games. When I got it I installed everything on it, but obviously I wasn't playing all those games as the time. And since the PS4 plays coy with letting you know when the install is complete. I would mostly decide the install was done when the disc drive went quiet. Plugging the HDD into the PS5 was easy, but it turns out plenty of those games were not completely installed.  So the partial install would show up, but be unusable meaning I had to reinstall plenty of games. Not a big deal and everything is installed. A few things still show up on the library page as having that status bar on them, but when you put the disc in it dosen't start up an install, instead the game is playable just fine.

Installing DMC5 SE was kind of annoying. It when hang up at 99% for playable install and then just do nothing. Deleted it and retried. Same thing. Then it hit a point where it said 99+ hours was needed and then started up again only to get hung up again. I had to take out the disc and reinsert it about 3 times to just get the install going again. After all that game seemingly is fine.

Other then that the only issue I've had is the rest mode issue. I've been able to use rest mode with no game running just fine. The first time I used while running Valhalla it did the rebuilding database thing. Hope they get that fixed. I actually used rest mode on PS4 all the time no problem.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on December 06, 2020, 07:38:45 PM
Also I got a new phone yesterday to replace a dying older one and was trying out remote play on PS5 which seemed honestly pretty great for a portable PS5/PS4 BC until this happened.

Ordered one of those phone controller things and with remote play this could be pretty useful for playing some games portable.

I always had issues with using the Vita for remote play.  When I tried my phone with it, the connection was 10 times better.  I got a phone controller attachment, but had issues mapping buttons.  You can use PS4 controllers for it too IIRC, at least with Android.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on December 06, 2020, 11:46:48 PM
Yeah, I got the Backbone One which sounds like you can't re-config the buttons either. I'd assume the buttons should just be standard Xbox/PS4 layout? Would be weird otherwise.

https://www.theverge.com/21525741/backbones-one-iphone-ios-controller-gaming-portable-review

I've been testing remote play with a DS4 but doesn't really work in bed since you need both hands to hold the phone. I know they have DS4 clips so if the backbone thing sucks I might look into that.

But yeah I also tried PS4 Remote Play on Vita and it was shit and unplayable 2 rooms away. Trying it now on ios on PS5 seems pretty damn good. Funny thing is that I got the Iphone 12 Pro Max which is 6.7" screen and it still feels too small for playing 1080p games on remote play with PS5/Steam. The text is pretty tiny on stuff compared to native ios games made for those resolutions. I want a switch size screen phone now lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 07, 2020, 01:26:10 AM
Moded my ikea shelf and got rid of the WiiU. Need to work on cable management, but this is my PS5 set-up and maybe my set-up for the next couple of years as I'm not sure I'll get an xbox.

https://imgur.com/gallery/xZtHpez

Not sure I should keep my Pro either, but I just have good memories towards it. I really liked the PS4. I have the PS3 still hooked up because it was my primary Blu ray player until I got a standalone one and still the only way to play PS3 games. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on December 07, 2020, 09:02:31 AM
and got rid of the WiiU.
:ohyeah
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 07, 2020, 09:39:27 AM
Not a bad set up but Jesus seeing that ugly white console makes me as sad as I thought it would, ugh
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on December 07, 2020, 10:28:41 AM
Moded my ikea shelf and got rid of the WiiU. Need to work on cable management, but this is my PS5 set-up and maybe my set-up for the next couple of years as I'm not sure I'll get an xbox.

https://imgur.com/gallery/xZtHpez

Not sure I should keep my Pro either, but I just have good memories towards it. I really liked the PS4. I have the PS3 still hooked up because it was my primary Blu ray player until I got a standalone one and still the only way to play PS3 games.

What did you do to make the shelf area larger?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on December 07, 2020, 02:16:59 PM
PlayStation 5 is thicc and stands out between the other black boxes tho

I expected next gen consoles to move more in the PC hardware direction.
No RGB lights = no sale :hmph
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nuitangg on December 07, 2020, 03:30:44 PM
These are on sale.

https://www.slickwraps.com/devices/gaming/playstation/playstation-5.html (https://www.slickwraps.com/devices/gaming/playstation/playstation-5.html)

I planned on trying that Plasti Dip spray but I'm really lazy.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on December 07, 2020, 05:13:45 PM
Since my tv ain't wall mounted I just put the ugly piece of crap behind it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on December 07, 2020, 05:15:59 PM
Since my tv ain't wall mounted I just put the ugly piece of crap behind it.
PS5 is so big, you could wall mount the TV directly to it!  :rodney
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on December 07, 2020, 06:47:17 PM
I keep mine horizontal and don't even notice it. It's definitely ugly but eh.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 08, 2020, 01:13:58 AM
Moded my ikea shelf and got rid of the WiiU. Need to work on cable management, but this is my PS5 set-up and maybe my set-up for the next couple of years as I'm not sure I'll get an xbox.

https://imgur.com/gallery/xZtHpez

Not sure I should keep my Pro either, but I just have good memories towards it. I really liked the PS4. I have the PS3 still hooked up because it was my primary Blu ray player until I got a standalone one and still the only way to play PS3 games.

What did you do to make the shelf area larger?
I took one of the larger vertical slabs and turned it horizontal in the middle. Removing the need for the smaller top row vertical slab.

Does anyone know if the PS5 camera allows you to use it for streaming when playing BC games?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on December 08, 2020, 09:12:18 PM
So I got this $100 backbone controller thing for remote play for the phone and meh. It's pretty nice for native ios app gaming and makes it feel like a Switch, but remote play it's missing the PS button & touchpad button which a lot of games use so it makes it kinda crappy. Plus testing around stuff remote play is definitely going to be a very specific situation useful feature.

Like playing a turn-based jrpg like Persona or Disgaea or something? Great!

Playing Spider-Man or something fast and smooth? Nah, looks pretty crap. Maybe slower open-world stuff like Days Gone or Ghost of Tsushima would work. But even trying Sackboy, the slight lag was tough for a tight timing platformer.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on December 08, 2020, 09:43:44 PM
So I got this $100 backbone controller thing for remote play for the phone and meh. It's pretty nice for native ios app gaming and makes it feel like a Switch, but remote play it's missing the PS button & touchpad button which a lot of games use so it makes it kinda crappy. Plus testing around stuff remote play is definitely going to be a very specific situation useful feature.

Like playing a turn-based jrpg like Persona or Disgaea or something? Great!

Playing Spider-Man or something fast and smooth? Nah, looks pretty crap. Maybe slower open-world stuff like Days Gone or Ghost of Tsushima would work. But even trying Sackboy, the slight lag was tough for a tight timing platformer.

If you can return it, try this one. 

https://www.amazon.com/Razer-Mobile-Controller-Gamepad-iPhone-mac/dp/B08FFPKRYW/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=razer+kishi&qid=1607481796&sr=8-4

Haven't tried it myself, but people seem to really like it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on December 08, 2020, 10:19:11 PM
In all the head to heads people preferred Backbone to Kishi from the reviews I read. But they honestly seem pretty much the exact same and cost the same.

Kishi has one pro in that it looks like you don't have to take your phone case on/off each time. Also supports Android devices.

But still has fewer buttons than a DS4. I ordered a $10 DS4 clip that I'm getting in a day or two and will compare it. I wouldn't be surprised if it's better honestly for remote play.

I mean for native ios stuff, the backbone seems pretty legit. I played some of The Pathless and Beyond a Steel Sky, Cat's Quest, etc... and they play flawless and it's like having a Switch. I honestly think I might just buy some ios native stuff if it's not available on Switch and I want a portable version. Like I picked up Muse Dash for $1.49 on steam the other day and it's a music game. I tried it on remote play and it's ok but a music game with remote play lag? Not great. So I just went on the app store and bought the native ios version for $1.99 and doubled dipped.

There are definitely situations where it'll be good. Just depends on the game. Like I might try doing some Item World disgaea 5 post-game runs in bed on remote play tonight.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on December 09, 2020, 12:01:21 AM
So I took out my ipad pro which I think is like the greatest thing since sliced bread and tried the sony remote play app with the PS5. And...it works really, really well. Even if it's less convenient to have a big tablet sitting on your chest and holding a controller in bed, this is definitely a much better experience for remote play gaming. It looks worse than native for sure, but otherwise it runs well and plays great with a DS4. Definitely can see myself using this at times.

Honestly I don't think I'll use the phone controller remote play much at all. Probably was a waste of money getting a controller. 1080p+ remote play just doesn't translate well to smaller than tablet screens.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on December 09, 2020, 06:06:22 PM
https://youtu.be/y_ZifUvopFs

I tried the $10 DS4 phone clip thing and $10 clip >>>>>>>> $99 phone controller lol

Other than getting used to the weight on the top from the phone, this works great. Don't have to take the phone case on, takes seconds to put on/off, has all the good controls of a DS4.

Also I play like shit in that video because I'm trying to hold the phone out like 4-5 feet to get in frame and I'm watching it through the camera that's filming. The lag is tiny enough to not really notice in Spider-Man and it plays good enough at 30fps mode (60fps mode was more iffy).

This is the clip I got and would recommend for remote play on phones from PS5.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07Z4RFKXD
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on December 13, 2020, 09:37:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OJ7aW3Df5U
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tasty on December 14, 2020, 12:18:09 AM
Sometimes SNL is passable.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tasty on December 14, 2020, 12:21:46 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/eF9u9sQ.jpg)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 14, 2020, 02:01:28 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpKERO5VEAAQB-a.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tasty on December 14, 2020, 02:02:48 PM
:thinking
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: El Babua on December 14, 2020, 10:26:59 PM
I gotta say, with the new 60 FPS Ray Tracing mode - Spider-Man on PS5 feels real next-gen, especially when you factor in the instant loading times.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: remy on December 14, 2020, 10:32:31 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpKERO5VEAAQB-a.jpg:large)
tfw a big tiddy anime girl will never buy me a ps5  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on December 14, 2020, 10:41:56 PM
:thinking

I don't get that picture?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rufus on December 15, 2020, 03:29:04 AM
:thinking

I don't get that picture?
Onee-chan is buying a PS5 for her boytoy.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 15, 2020, 10:15:14 AM
(https://i.redd.it/zart54861p431.png)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on December 15, 2020, 11:33:08 AM
:thinking

I don't get that picture?
Onee-chan is buying a PS5 for her boytoy.
you mean snoyboy
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on December 15, 2020, 11:57:47 AM
:thinking

I don't get that picture?
Onee-chan is buying a PS5 for her boytoy.
~uguurooming. (´・ω・`)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on December 16, 2020, 06:57:36 AM
I skipped out on the PC version but Temtem on PS5 is gud. There have been Zelda ripoffs since forever, kind of neat to see such a blatant recreation of Pokémon in that same vein but with a lot of QoL improvements. I really like the entire game being 2v2 and allows for co-op all the way through. No stupid limitations on trading or communication either. Can re-challenge gym leaders once a week, too!

Makes me glad I skipped that Sword/Shield tbh. GameFreak needs to step up their game.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on December 21, 2020, 09:59:20 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Epu4uMIWMAAMLvA?format=jpg&name=900x900)

:heh
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on December 22, 2020, 08:46:45 AM
Returnal is shaping up to be a 3D shooter akin to Vanquish/GunValkyrie/PN03 with a dash of Bullet Hell.  $70 may be too steep for such a genre, but this shit is looking damn fun....

(gameplay at 1:25ish, 4:55ish and 9:30ish)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORKjhcwQhyc&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on December 22, 2020, 12:24:20 PM
I'm sure the game will be good, but it should've been $20-40.

All their games have been under $20 arcade titles and this looks pretty similar except with nicer 3d graphics. Game is gonna bomb hard imo.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: thetylerrob on December 22, 2020, 01:39:15 PM
I like that they made the player character for their action shooter game an angry Karen Ellen Degeneres mash-up.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on December 22, 2020, 06:42:54 PM
picked up mgsv, cuphead, nfs hot pursuit remastered and tekken 7 ultimate edition in the sale.

had no idea the ps3's hot pursuit remaster was a thing 'til i saw it in the store. snap buy. game was fun af and runs at 4k/60 on PS5 :lawd

nice to have MGSV on PS5 too. have played it a fair bit on pc, but i'm down for a rerun. found out PES uses V's FOX Engine the other day when looking into the latest update. will give it a go on boxing day with a friend
 and my brother who are real into the series.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Kestastrophe on December 29, 2020, 11:26:49 AM
Finally got a ps5, only to encounter an apparent known bug with hdr on certain av equipment

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarcher/2020/11/22/sony-ps5-reportedly-suffering-with-frustrating-4k-hdr-bug/?sh=24c24a806339
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on January 31, 2021, 12:22:44 PM
https://screenrant.com/playstation-5-restock-japan-retail-store-chaos-canceled/amp/

https://mobile.twitter.com/AJapaneseDream/status/1355332901240365057

https://mobile.twitter.com/AJapaneseDream/status/1355334055521206275

:titus
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 31, 2021, 01:15:20 PM
nani the fuck?!  :gamer
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 31, 2021, 10:50:02 PM
Finding it hilarious that they sent 7% of the PS5 stock to Japan. Sony DGAF about Nippon no mo
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on February 01, 2021, 12:45:45 AM
Finding it hilarious that they sent 7% of the PS5 stock to Japan. Sony DGAF about Nippon no mo
And the other 93% directly to scalpers, apparently.  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on February 01, 2021, 04:31:09 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/SonySantaMonica/status/1356327957678080001
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on February 01, 2021, 04:47:05 PM
oh hell yeah, i just finished uncharted 4 lol. guess ima be on some dad of war this weekend. playing through all these "free" cinematic sony experiences atm.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on February 01, 2021, 07:51:15 PM
 :whoo

https://blog.playstation.com/2021/01/27/destruction-allstars-control-ultimate-edition-and-concrete-genie-are-your-playstation-plus-games-for-february/

was thinking about buying control  8)

does seem a little savage to push ps5 so hard when you can't buy the fucking thing
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on February 02, 2021, 01:35:49 AM
Control is also on GamePass as of last month, so not really that much of a killer app. in that sense, but it's certainly a good title to play on PS5, the next gen patch seems pretty good.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on February 04, 2021, 07:33:54 AM
Anyone try Destruction Allstars yet?  I have it downloaded, but won't be able to try till tomorrow.  Seems there's very little buzz about it, and the little I've read, it's actually an ok game.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on February 04, 2021, 07:44:33 AM
Anyone try Destruction Allstars yet?  I have it downloaded, but won't be able to try till tomorrow.  Seems there's very little buzz about it, and the little I've read, it's actually an ok game.

Saw something that even though it's "free," you have to pay to unlock various modes and content?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on February 04, 2021, 07:53:12 AM
Anyone try Destruction Allstars yet?  I have it downloaded, but won't be able to try till tomorrow.  Seems there's very little buzz about it, and the little I've read, it's actually an ok game.

Saw something that even though it's "free," you have to pay to unlock various modes and content?
:beli great.  Was just hoping to get a bit of some Twisted Metal vibes.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on March 02, 2021, 08:35:31 AM
Seeing Kena: Bridge of Spirits is up for pre-order on PSN...  This is a $40 game??   ???  Guess I shouldn't expect much from this game, seeing as it's being released on PS4 still too.   :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on March 02, 2021, 09:05:42 AM
Seeing Kena: Bridge of Spirits is up for pre-order on PSN...  This is a $40 game??   ???  Guess I shouldn't expect much from this game, seeing as it's being released on PS4 still too.   :doge

Guess you shouldn't expect much from most games, including Horizon Forbidden West either, going by that logic. 
 :birb
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on March 02, 2021, 09:19:02 AM
Seeing Kena: Bridge of Spirits is up for pre-order on PSN...  This is a $40 game??   ???  Guess I shouldn't expect much from this game, seeing as it's being released on PS4 still too.   :doge

Guess you shouldn't expect much from most games, including Horizon Forbidden West either, going by that logic. 
 :birb
True.. but if Horizon 2 will run at 60fps on PS5 due to being a PS4 game technically, I'm 100% stoked for that... I still can't get over PS being silent AF about Bloodborne and Horizon not having 60fps updates yet.  ...the 2 games I wanted the most to be updated for this thing.  :-\
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on March 02, 2021, 09:21:27 AM
BB never even got a proper ps4pro patch.
Sony is being weirdly stupid about one of their most iconic games in the last gen.
Unless FROM is really adamantly against working on it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on March 02, 2021, 08:48:30 PM
would love to get some insight into that process.

sometimes it's engineers internally pushing back, or just not caring. like the recent improvements in load times made by a "hacker" in GTA Online https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/03/hacker-reduces-gta-online-load-times-by-over-70-percent/, or the other week im contracting with one of the largest web companies around here and i ask a dev why their app pools are running on 32 bit vm's "idk, 64 bit just doesn't work". me: "can i try it?" them "honestly bro, it just doesn't work" i convince them to let me try an update in the perf environment (this has been plaguing them for aaaages) and it took 2 hours investigation and 2 config changes in memory allocation to fix the bug. sometimes devs, engineers, ops teams etc are actually just stupid and/or lazy.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on March 02, 2021, 11:08:15 PM
Anyone try Destruction Allstars yet?  I have it downloaded, but won't be able to try till tomorrow.  Seems there's very little buzz about it, and the little I've read, it's actually an ok game.

I've played some of the single player. It's not as bad as I expected and I wouldn't uninstall it like I do for a lot of these freebies after trying them. I might play it a little more here and there.

It plays pretty well and looks good enough though the arenas need more variety. But I suck too much to play online and playing against cpu is kinda dull so idk. There's a time trial mode where you have to race through checkpoints avoiding stuff trying to kill you and swapping between driving through checkpoints and wallrunning & platforming on foot through checkpoints that's pretty fun.

I think it's fine, but it definitely should've been a F2P or $20 PSN kinda game.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 03, 2021, 02:49:53 AM
would love to get some insight into that process.

sometimes it's engineers internally pushing back, or just not caring. like the recent improvements in load times made by a "hacker" in GTA Online https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/03/hacker-reduces-gta-online-load-times-by-over-70-percent/, or the other week im contracting with one of the largest web companies around here and i ask a dev why their app pools are running on 32 bit vm's "idk, 64 bit just doesn't work". me: "can i try it?" them "honestly bro, it just doesn't work" i convince them to let me try an update in the perf environment (this has been plaguing them for aaaages) and it took 2 hours investigation and 2 config changes in memory allocation to fix the bug. sometimes devs, engineers, ops teams etc are actually just stupid and/or lazy.

I bet this is a thing where Sony doesn't want to spend money on it and the original team isn't available to do it/doesn't have time. They'd likely have to QA it again, even if they just released the frame rate cap.

Also with the recent layoffs at Japan Studio it's very possible that their liaisons between Sony and From are gone.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on March 03, 2021, 07:08:16 AM
Anyone try Destruction Allstars yet?  I have it downloaded, but won't be able to try till tomorrow.  Seems there's very little buzz about it, and the little I've read, it's actually an ok game.

I've played some of the single player. It's not as bad as I expected and I wouldn't uninstall it like I do for a lot of these freebies after trying them. I might play it a little more here and there.

It plays pretty well and looks good enough though the arenas need more variety. But I suck too much to play online and playing against cpu is kinda dull so idk. There's a time trial mode where you have to race through checkpoints avoiding stuff trying to kill you and swapping between driving through checkpoints and wallrunning & platforming on foot through checkpoints that's pretty fun.

I think it's fine, but it definitely should've been a F2P or $20 PSN kinda game.
I tried it out and it was ayeet...  It looked and played pretty solid, but the one thing that bothered me, was that it's all just arenas...  I feel like they missed the mark with not having large, open area hubs like Twisted Metal or Vigilante 8.  Having broken down, derelict buildings you can drive through (like TM2) with giant falls, but plenty of wall running potential, would've been so much better... but the humdrum arenas got boring pretty quick to me. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on March 08, 2021, 05:26:54 PM
yeah, it looks and plays well, like it should be great. but it's not. gave it ~4hrs to grab me in any way, but it lacks any heft and the different game modes all feel the same.

something i felt a lot while playing it was "i'd much rather be playing battle mode in mk8"
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on March 10, 2021, 11:43:48 AM
https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1369656652090269699
https://twitter.com/Dan_TheAnimal/status/1369665006246256642

 :info
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Trent Dole on March 10, 2021, 01:41:33 PM
Looks like Series X wins this gen :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rufus on March 10, 2021, 02:05:05 PM
I don't understand the reaction. It's anti-cheat.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on March 10, 2021, 03:04:55 PM
Put anti cheat server side instead
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on March 10, 2021, 03:48:52 PM
from what i understand identifying exploits server side for large online games is incredibly difficult and expensive. offloading to client machines is the only realistic option for a lot of the kinds of exploits people use

also seems like the negative perf impacts on games are related to poor implementation (checking too often perhaps) vs the solution being inherently bad https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/09/ars-analysis-denuvo-drm-doesnt-slow-down-batman-arkham-knight/
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on March 25, 2021, 09:07:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3K3AUXKCnY
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on March 25, 2021, 09:44:00 PM
I just wish this and Deathloop weren't rogues  :'(

They both look great, but I want a full story campaign with the gameplay and visuals/art in each. But given that rogues are way cheaper to make since it's more about reusing content over and over and lets you get away with fewer assets/content, and given that Hades just sold a billion ass copies, it's probably a lot smarter business decision for these games to be rogues.

Will still give both a try, but single player campaign games I know I'll finish them, rogues are....questionable whether I'll see the thing through. At least on PC there's always trainers/cheats.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Boredfrom on March 26, 2021, 08:32:42 PM
I just wish this and Deathloop weren't rogues  :'(

They both look great, but I want a full story campaign with the gameplay and visuals/art in each. But given that rogues are way cheaper to make since it's more about reusing content over and over and lets you get away with fewer assets/content, and given that Hades just sold a billion ass copies, it's probably a lot smarter business decision for these games to be rogues.

Will still give both a try, but single player campaign games I know I'll finish them, rogues are....questionable whether I'll see the thing through. At least on PC there's always trainers/cheats.

Deathloop is not a rogue like. Sounds more like a big Hitman mission whose focus is action than stealth.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on March 26, 2021, 09:43:29 PM
I thought Deathloop was you keep repeating the loop until you beat it like a roguelike.

Hmmmm, well if it's not then that's good.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Coax on March 27, 2021, 02:39:01 AM
I thought Deathloop was you keep repeating the loop until you beat it like a roguelike.

It's kind of a rogue-lite and afaik inspired by their previous work on the Prey DLC Mooncrash. About the only video that has explained it straightforwardly is an official talking head piece  :P

The goal is you replay the same mission multiple times to kill all the targets in one 'day' (I've read this isn't strictly timed at least), otherwise you restart the loop (or if you die first). So the idea is you attempt to manipulate events/find new pathways in each run as you learn behaviors to facilitate being able to kill all the targets in a successful run. By finding certain 'loopholes' obtained items/weapons can be carried across runs.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on March 27, 2021, 06:50:57 PM
I thought Deathloop was you keep repeating the loop until you beat it like a roguelike.

It's kind of a rogue-lite and afaik inspired by their previous work on the Prey DLC Mooncrash. About the only video that has explained it straightforwardly is an official talking head piece  :P

The goal is you replay the same mission multiple times to kill all the targets in one 'day' (I've read this isn't strictly timed at least), otherwise you restart the loop (or if you die first). So the idea is you attempt to manipulate events/find new pathways in each run as you learn behaviors to facilitate being able to kill all the targets in a successful run. By finding certain 'loopholes' obtained items/weapons can be carried across runs.

Returnal seems to be like this, too, based on that video- you start over and there's different paths/enemies/things going on.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on March 29, 2021, 02:30:26 PM
Ratchet & Clank; the free Play at Home PS4 version, will have a 60fps update coming in April.  Better snag it before it expires on 03/31.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on March 29, 2021, 03:14:49 PM
Awkward times to be a digital PS5 owner
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on March 29, 2021, 04:25:32 PM
Awkward times to be a digital PS5 owner
It is awkward Sony giving away free games with no paid subscription necessary.  :yeshrug
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on April 08, 2021, 05:25:09 PM
Deathloop has been delayed to September.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on April 08, 2021, 06:25:17 PM
Deathloop has been delayed to September.

The Microsoft Way :teehee
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on April 08, 2021, 07:43:16 PM
I wonder if the Mass Effect remake will still make it, I expected some more marketing right now.
Same for that 'Returnal(?)' thing Sony is putting out.

Resident Evil Village is still trucking along it seems and Capcom is actively promoting it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on April 08, 2021, 09:47:25 PM
I was gonna say Capcom is fine, they got Rise out without delays.
Then I remembered that Rise is missing the last 10% of the game + post-game to be added in another month or two via free DLC.

So yeah RE8...hope it comes out in a month and is finished!
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on April 09, 2021, 12:30:56 AM
Same for that 'Returnal(?)' thing Sony is putting out.


Went gold a couple weeks ago.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on April 09, 2021, 07:45:22 AM
Deathloop has been delayed to September.

The Microsoft Way :teehee
Oh wow.  I didn't realize that dev was part of "the acquisition".   :doge

I can so very easily see them "delaying" it to a point of breaching the PS5 exclusive thing with whatever loopholes they've created.  :lol

Honestly, I have no interest in the game, so..  :yeshrug
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on April 09, 2021, 09:03:33 AM
Deathloop has been delayed to September.

The Microsoft Way :teehee
Oh wow.  I didn't realize that dev was part of "the acquisition".   :doge

Microsoft probably didn't either  :idont

I don't think Arkane will last long as a seperate entity under Microsoft.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on April 09, 2021, 10:31:00 AM
oh no no death ..loop? anyway. Where is Tokyo Ghostwire.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: El Babua on April 09, 2021, 04:06:36 PM
I think the gamepass model is way better suited for devs like Arkane. Not that I think MS will keep them, judging from history.  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on April 09, 2021, 04:19:49 PM
I think the gamepass model is way better suited for devs like Arkane. Not that I think MS will keep them, judging from history.  :doge
I think they will consolidate resources and lump them in with the dudes doing DOOM, Quake and Wolfenstein.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on April 13, 2021, 01:23:43 PM
https://blog.playstation.com/2021/04/13/ps5-april-update-brings-new-storage-options-and-social-features/
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on April 14, 2021, 12:48:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0J8mbld7hM

 :whoo  Shit keeps lookin' better and better.. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on April 14, 2021, 03:52:48 PM
I cant get over how much I dislike how Returnal looks. Gameplay videos arent doing much for me either. 70 euros for that shit  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on April 14, 2021, 05:45:14 PM
gameplay looks great, and I think it looks decent in motion. any time it slows down and you get a good look at the detail tho...
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Sho Nuff on April 15, 2021, 01:51:43 AM
Check your mail, I just got an email from Sony saying I could order a PS5 direct from them
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Kestastrophe on April 15, 2021, 10:12:08 AM
The new update fixed the issue i had with hdr not working  :mynicca
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on April 15, 2021, 04:37:59 PM
The new update fixed the issue i had with hdr not working  :mynicca

Saw something about 1080P 120 FPS now being supported- I thought that was already the case?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on April 15, 2021, 05:41:06 PM
The new update fixed the issue i had with hdr not working  :mynicca

Saw something about 1080P 120 FPS now being supported- I thought that was already the case?

Has to do with certain monitors I think.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Kestastrophe on April 16, 2021, 11:14:26 PM
Thats correct, as well as some av receivers and soundbars
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on April 23, 2021, 05:16:57 PM
More Returnal stuffz...

https://giant.gfycat.com/OrneryHandsomeBunny.mp4

 :neo
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on April 23, 2021, 06:30:58 PM
More Returnal stuffz...

https://giant.gfycat.com/OrneryHandsomeBunny.mp4

 :neo
It looks good but I feel like it could've been better as a Metroidvania type game like CONTROL instead of a rogue like.

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on April 23, 2021, 07:47:35 PM
More Returnal stuffz...

https://giant.gfycat.com/OrneryHandsomeBunny.mp4

 :neo
It looks good but I feel like it could've been better as a Metroidvania type game like CONTROL instead of a rogue like.
I agree. That would've warranted a instant Day 1 purchase for me.  Although I've been reading it's basically "Hades meets Control meets Metroid" which piques my interest still.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mr. Nobody on April 26, 2021, 12:31:48 PM
I HAVE MONEY FOR THIS CONSOLE

WHERE DOES IT GO

GIVE ME NOW  :rage
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on April 27, 2021, 07:53:12 AM
I HAVE MONEY FOR THIS CONSOLE

WHERE DOES IT GO

GIVE ME NOW  :rage

(https://media.tenor.com/images/c5dd592dabffc546d0ef43d3e024f38d/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 28, 2021, 10:49:37 AM
Ah shit

(https://i.imgur.com/AsWLMEM.jpg)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 28, 2021, 10:56:18 AM
Gongrats on your Returnal box.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 28, 2021, 10:57:17 AM
Gongrats on your Returnal box.

Fuck that, my pc is currently out of commission (still) so this is gonna be my RE Village 4k box
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on April 28, 2021, 11:19:49 AM
Dog: "Take this and sell it on ebay?"

Cat: "Take this and sell it on ebay."
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: chronovore on April 28, 2021, 11:37:53 AM
I am almost positive I will get a gaming PC before I get a PlayStation 5. It’s more flexible, it has more access to a bunch of great games that I have been meaning to play, and it’s only missing the dualsense controller. I think I can live with that.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on April 28, 2021, 12:17:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL2Qa0MQyuE

I will probably cave this weekend..  ready for some bullet hell..
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 28, 2021, 12:28:44 PM
It's not like we're swimming in new releases anyways. I'll probably just wait for Resident Evil Village and get this when it's budget price. (It's fucking 75 euros!?)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on April 28, 2021, 01:07:06 PM
Yeah 80€ is just insanity for a Rogue-Lite.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on April 28, 2021, 01:10:33 PM
Yeah, it's not going to be worth the price and should've been a $39.99 title. I mean all of their past games were like $15-$20. There should've been a middleground step before they try full price, but Sony is pretty corporate these days and will take any chance they can to sell stuff at a premium.

I'm gonna get it just because I like HouseMarque's games and hopefully it'll be enjoyable, but I'm expecting to get about the same amount of entertainment from it as I did from their $20 games.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 28, 2021, 01:15:35 PM
That's another thing, I won't fucking pay $70 for a game. RE Village has a $60 version so I'll get that. But fuck paying $70, I will wait because I am petty as shit.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on April 28, 2021, 01:27:59 PM
If you don't need stuff day 1, everything is $30 within a year these days unless it's a Nintendo game. Then it's still $60 and maybe $40 in three years (if they don't just stop selling it).
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 28, 2021, 01:34:45 PM
If you don't need stuff day 1, everything is $30 within a year these days unless it's a Nintendo game. Then it's still $60 and maybe $40 in three years (if they don't just stop selling it).

After 6-9 months, Nintendo stuff will go on sale for $10-20 off periodically, I just scoop it up then if I didn't buy it at launch and want to play it at all. I'm actually building up a backlog of switch shit because of that.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on April 28, 2021, 01:37:16 PM
But yeah, that's why I don't really have an issue with game prices increasing with inflation. A movie ticket used to be $6 and now it's like $18. A meal at fast food used to be $4-5, now it's like $10-12.

Early adapters always get fucked in tech. Just how it is. If you don't have FOMO gaming is cheap these days with all these bundles and sales and game pass.

But I've been paying 6800yen ($70) PS2, 7800yen ($80) PS3 for imports for 20 years, so US games have always felt cheaper by comparison. Fuck, I think FF13 cost like $110 and the game sucked.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on April 28, 2021, 01:38:16 PM
If you don't need stuff day 1, everything is $30 within a year these days unless it's a Nintendo game. Then it's still $60 and maybe $40 in three years (if they don't just stop selling it).

After 6-9 months, Nintendo stuff will go on sale for $10-20 off periodically, I just scoop it up then if I didn't buy it at launch and want to play it at all. I'm actually building up a backlog of switch shit because of that.

Still waiting on Origami King and Pikmin 3 to hit $40 someday...and Age of Calamity too.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on April 28, 2021, 01:39:49 PM
Backlogs are so damn real nowadays.  :stahp
If you don't need stuff day 1, everything is $30 within a year these days unless it's a Nintendo game. Then it's still $60 and maybe $40 in three years (if they don't just stop selling it).

After 6-9 months, Nintendo stuff will go on sale for $10-20 off periodically, I just scoop it up then if I didn't buy it at launch and want to play it at all. I'm actually building up a backlog of switch shit because of that.

Still waiting on Origami King and Pikmin 3 to hit $40 someday...and Age of Calamity too.
Still waiting on BOTW; a 4 year old game, to drop below $50.  :hmph
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 28, 2021, 02:37:27 PM
I got BotW for $40 around Christmas, you just gotta pay attention and pull the trigger
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Kestastrophe on April 28, 2021, 02:56:57 PM
$47

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-nintendo-switch/5721500.p?ref=8575135&loc=5719f38aa85311ebb5cb5ecee2715ee70INT&acampID=5719f38aa85311ebb5cb5ecee2715ee70INT&skuId=5721500
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 28, 2021, 04:07:59 PM
PS5 thread redeemed :rejoice
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on April 28, 2021, 05:30:55 PM
as much as i love the event horizon x alien vibe and keen on big budget bullet hell tps the cheapest copy i can find here is $100 (~72usd) and the psn copy is $130  :doge

would bet my life on it this will be half price on the secondary market in a month or two. demon's souls retailed at $140 and is sub 60 secondhand rn. ps5 is a captured market rn i guess and there's nothing else coming out, but these prices still feel a little scummy
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tuckers Law on April 28, 2021, 08:41:50 PM
I was over at my cousins house last night and he was showing me the gamepass stuff on his series x. I got a sudden pang of grief when battlefield 1943 appeared.

PlayStation 5 is a big fat pile of shit, fuck you Sony.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: DJ Bedroom on April 28, 2021, 08:55:47 PM
Yeah, the ONLY reason I'm hesitant on Returnal is that it's like 30 bucks too expensive. It looks ace, but how the hell could anyone justify spending that much on a roguelike, especially considering hades released at a third of the price? Production values aside, hades is kind of the current standard bearer for the genre
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 28, 2021, 10:31:39 PM
I was over at my cousins house last night and he was showing me the gamepass stuff on his series x. I got a sudden pang of grief when battlefield 1943 appeared.

PlayStation 5 is a big fat pile of shit, fuck you Sony.

lol who actually wants to play a bunch of mediocre games

also yup totally a fat pile of shit

https://twitter.com/PS5Updates/status/1387403640369991681?s
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on April 29, 2021, 12:21:21 AM
I was over at my cousins house last night and he was showing me the gamepass stuff on his series x. I got a sudden pang of grief when battlefield 1943 appeared.

PlayStation 5 is a big fat pile of shit, fuck you Sony.

i actually had no idea 1943 was never released on pc  :doge

played the shit out of it on 360
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on April 29, 2021, 02:26:22 AM
Do you guys also think that Animal crossing should be like a third of the price cause Stardew Valley is 15 bucks?

I don't get it :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on April 29, 2021, 03:13:02 AM
My PS5 controller is having drift issues. Guess no Returnal for me.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 29, 2021, 04:32:14 AM
My PS5 controller is having drift issues. Guess no Returnal for me.

also yup totally a fat pile of shit
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on April 29, 2021, 06:17:33 AM
I can never turn my Ps5 on with my controller, because rest modes fuck with it and demands hdd repairs every time I boot it. So have to fucking click the button on the console instead and then wait for that.

 It also crashed on me a few times in the middle of games. Don't remember any other console I ever bought being this unfinished. At least they finally got vrr in now, like half a year after release, despite advertising it on the box. Not even my self built computers that I more often then not managed to fuck up, have been this unstable and lacking
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 29, 2021, 06:26:17 AM
Isn't the rest mode still broken? Thought it might actually kill your console.

"Sony recommends users simply don’t use the rest mode feature or external storage devices while they work on a fix. This bug has been around now for four months"
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on April 29, 2021, 06:29:55 AM
Maybe, not sure. I just put it in rest mode as it's the first option and I usually dont really think about how I am supposed to shut down my console.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on April 29, 2021, 06:54:47 AM
huh, I didn't know that and have never put it in anything but rest mode  :doge

had a couple issues with an error reported after coming out of sleep, but nothing else...
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on April 29, 2021, 07:07:42 AM
oh right, it's to do w entering rest mode with an external drive plugged in. I have not fucked with that
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on April 29, 2021, 07:14:05 AM
I have nothing plugged in, other than the usb cable that I use to charge up the controller.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 29, 2021, 07:16:01 AM
"When the PS5 first launched, keeping the console in Rest Mode sometimes resulted in freezes, corrupted data, and crashes. In some extreme cases, users reported needing to rebuild the console. Unfortunately, these problems with Rest Mode haven't been 100% resolved, but firmware updates seem to have made Rest Mode more stable. Still, PS5 users may want to keep Rest Mode turned off for now."

Found some reddit thread from 2 weeks ago that has a bunch of people still dealing with the same issues.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on April 29, 2021, 08:39:42 AM
I have an external plugged in mine and put it in rest mode always.  Only issue I came across once, was letting it fall into rest mode on a timer.  I had to hard reset it, but it didn't have to rebuild anything.  Demon's Souls crashed once, otherwise, it's been butter for me. 
 :yeshrug

Returnal is sitting at an 87 meta.  If I didn't have other games I'm trying to finish up first, I'd be on be pulling the (adaptive)trigger on it.... I may still just for the pre-order content.
My PS5 controller is having drift issues. Guess no Returnal for me.
Damn.. sorry man. That sucks.  I've been lucky so far I guess.  Of all my gaming paraphernalia, only drifting I've had was with a new DS4 I got last year.  It got fixed for free which they returned within a week of me sending.  But that same controller is real fickle with connecting to PC too.  It's my lemon of the bunch. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on April 29, 2021, 09:41:47 AM
Only negative thing I'm reading about Returnal (besides the price), is the mid run progress saving.  If you close the game or power off your PS5, you have to start the run over.  Sounds like really weird design choice.. got a feeling that'll be changed in the near future though.  Most are saying about a 30 hour campaign/story... 70-150 hours for the platinum due to random drops.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tuckers Law on April 29, 2021, 11:35:11 AM
I was over at my cousins house last night and he was showing me the gamepass stuff on his series x. I got a sudden pang of grief when battlefield 1943 appeared.

PlayStation 5 is a big fat pile of shit, fuck you Sony.

lol who actually wants to play a bunch of mediocre games

also yup totally a fat pile of shit

https://twitter.com/PS5Updates/status/1387403640369991681?s

Gamers are idiots.  Even with my being a Demon’s Souls superfan and weighting it very heavily, and also greatly preferring Sony’s first party titles over the MS offerings (I have never owned an Xbox nor coveted one), the Series X is the much better offering.  If PS5 had more must-play exclusives or offered better backwards compatibility, my thoughts might change.  As it stands, I would rather have a Series X than a PS5, and that’s even when including that I just built a completely new and gamepass-capable pc right before hardware prices went fucking bananas.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tuckers Law on April 29, 2021, 11:36:25 AM
I guess you could say I feel like a recently-liberated battered spouse of Sony.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on April 29, 2021, 12:01:27 PM
I don't get it. It's been 5 months and the Series X has no exclusives. They launched a system with pretty much no first-party support. Is the first, first-party game going to be Halo? An almost year late game? I'm sorry that's pathetic in my opinion.

I really don't understand this new idea that the Series X is a "much better offering". How? Why? Gamepass I guess. Yes, I guess things like Outriders being on there day 1 are exciting. I mean I don't care about that game, but at least it's a 3rd party game. Yet, pretty much everything I've wanted to play day 1 isn't on game pass or isn't on the Xbox in general. Ys 9 wasn't on the xbox. Nier 1.5 wasn't on gamepass.

MS is preserving its legacy. Sure, I guess compared to the Playstation 5, but I mean less than 50% of my 360 games can be played on the Series X. Feel like MS BC is overblown. Also, I hardly have the time to play old games. It's cool that they enhanced Prey. I don't have time to go back to it. I have time for new games and the occasional replay of a real classic or something I'm super curious about. Xbox isn't giving me new games so that loses half the battle of buying a new console.

Sorry, just don't understand this recent Series X hype.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 29, 2021, 12:05:32 PM
Nier replicant is on xbox unless I've been hallucinating playing it on there :thinking
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on April 29, 2021, 12:48:56 PM
Nier is on Xbox but not on GamePass. It also runs at a higher resolution (1440p vs. 1080p) and has the BC improvements that base Xbox One games have on X and Series X (16x AF that sort of thing).

Still, the gap between MS and Sony will just widen as long as MS doesn't release any new first party games.
Sony drops Returnal with a 86/100 and next up is Ratchet which is getting quite positive previews. Something has to go very wrong for that game to score below 80/100.
Now if Sony keeps up the pace with quality releases they'll have about 5 or 6 exclusives well worth the money by the time HALO launches which could be a salvaged mess or the best HALO in a decade.

I'll probably get the Xbox Series X at one point because I don't want to throw away my 10+ year investment into the platform but I don't see a reason to replace my Xbox One X just yet.

At this stage in the game though if I'm looking to buy a next-gen console and I'm not invested in any of them (or equally in both) the PS5 would be my first pick.
The course of this generation really depends on the patience of Micrsoft Corp. If they manage to release systems sellers every 2 - 3 months in 3 years from now with their new studios, snag up a few exclusives and expand GamePass with the backlog of publishers like Konami, SEGA and SNK. They could be in a great place to overtake Sony in the second half of this gen. But that's a steep hill to climb.

In fact, I think that MS sorta gave themselves a leg behind by making the Xbox One X such a great piece of kit. It does almost everything that the Xbox Series X does including BC enhancements and it doesn't do it half bad either.
Outside of Cyberpunk there hasn't been a game that runs signficantly worse on Xbox One X than it does on Xbox Series S/X. In some cases it even outpaces the Series S in specific areas.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 29, 2021, 12:59:52 PM
I'll just wait until Sony releases Ratchet and Returnal on Gamepass like they did The Show.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on April 29, 2021, 02:16:41 PM
Xbox can have Major Liberal League Baseball...
 :nope

I'm actually thanking Sony for that one.  Ya'll enjoy waiting for a sweet 343 Haloz.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tuckers Law on April 29, 2021, 02:21:54 PM
For me it’s not about praising MS, but instead negging on Sony.   :idont
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on April 29, 2021, 02:48:09 PM
On the rest mode thing, I use an external HDD and first couple weeks of PS5 were BRUTAL. Lotta of crashing and database rebuilding.

After about a month though, haven't had a single crash and I'm one of those people that never shuts off a system and puts it in rest mode. Been using it about 3-4 days a week since launch playing through stuff too. Lots of background downloading and what not.

I'm sure there's still some issues and some people are still having issues, but it's got to be one of those 1% kind of things, so it's not worth worrying about as it most likely won't effect you. I see threads where people are still afraid to use rest mode and it just seems silly tbh.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 29, 2021, 03:35:49 PM
Gamepass is great if you have no life and just want to play a bunch of A and B games, and the shit tier beneath them.

RE Village ain't gonna be on gamepass.

I hate myself, but I don't hate myself enough to game via gamepass.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on April 29, 2021, 03:51:15 PM
Eh, Game Pass is good for all the studios MS buys that do day 1 on Game Pass like Obsidian when they make good games or the Ori games. It'll be nice having the next Doom/Wolfenstein/Starlink whatever day 1 for free.

The third party stuff they add is hit or miss. I actually play through a game pass game from start to finish like once every 3-4 months. But I try a few things and add them to my "buy on Steam or get in a Humble Bundle" list a decent amount. Also helps turn me off games I would've bought after trying them and not liking them. It's a good demo sampler.

Sony absolutely should make a game pass competitor. Otoh, MS needed game pass because without it they would've had not much besides "better UI and slightly higher resolution in games"
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on April 29, 2021, 04:01:10 PM
Gamepass is great if you have no life and just want to play a bunch of A and B games, and the shit tier beneath them.

This is a terrible post.

Gamepass is fantastic. But I am just waiting for MS to make it shit or start charging a lot of money for it. Thank God I got 2 years saved up.  :-*
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on April 29, 2021, 04:03:42 PM
Forgot they had a State of Play today.  :P  Supposedly it's all about Ratchet & Clank and like some 2 indie games. lawl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8hWEhS7iw0
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: mormapope on April 29, 2021, 04:54:59 PM
"Game Pass is shit because it has videogames. If you play or try different games besides AAA games, you have no life. The PS5 though? It sold a lot, it's pretty dope" is one of the weirdest takes I've seen in a long time.

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 29, 2021, 05:06:22 PM
Ratchet and Clank runs at 30 fps? The future of gaming is here.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 29, 2021, 05:26:21 PM
Do you guys also think that Animal crossing should be like a third of the price cause Stardew Valley is 15 bucks?

I don't get it :lol

No I think it should be $40 because it got released a fucking year ago

Paying full price for games that have been out for over a year is stupid

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Honestly in Animal Crossing's case I don't think it should exist because it's trash but that's a different conversation
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Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on April 29, 2021, 05:33:34 PM
Ratchet and Clank runs at 30 fps? The future of gaming is here.
It will have a 60fps performance mode too.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Kestastrophe on April 29, 2021, 06:08:05 PM
Ratchet looks dope, low key one of my favorite series
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on April 29, 2021, 06:15:01 PM
Returnal gameplay looks much better than I would have expected. But I can't with that drab ugly art direction.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: chronovore on April 29, 2021, 06:23:33 PM
I don’t know what you’re talking about in terms of drab art direction. Looking at any place where bullet hell gameplay is involved, the important parts to the player are clear and easily marked. Everything else, they’re going for a look like “edge of tomorrow“/“all you need is kill“ where it’s intentionally desaturated. This makes the hyper saturated bullet hell elements stand out even more. This is what you want. Unfortunately, bullet hell gameplay is not for me; so, while I like this look, I will not end up playing this game.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Beezy on April 29, 2021, 06:32:34 PM
Snorenado and Rahx agreeing on something for once is enough to know that it's a bad take.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on April 29, 2021, 06:43:13 PM
after watching some gameplay, im p into the art direction. those squid things gave me real matrix overworld Sentinel vibes :whew

the ratchet and clank part of the state of play. haven't played one of these since a crack in time but yeah, this looks sick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zf1GCFoqn0
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on April 29, 2021, 06:43:28 PM
Ratchet looks dope, low key one of my favorite series

I liked A Crack in Time that was more puzzle based Clank stuff.

The Remake of 1 and the short Into the Nexus games were alright. I just want a meatier and more puzzle focused one than a flashy on-rails short game. Hopefully this is more like the former.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on April 29, 2021, 06:45:48 PM
Ratchet looks dope, low key one of my favorite series

I liked A Crack in Time that was more puzzle based Clank stuff.

The Remake of 1 and the short Into the Nexus games were alright. I just want a meatier and more puzzle focused one than a flashy on-rails short game. Hopefully this is more like the former.

def seems like it going by the trailer. game sounds big and long with a lot of side content.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on April 29, 2021, 10:20:04 PM
I don’t know what you’re talking about in terms of drab art direction. Looking at any place where bullet hell gameplay is involved, the important parts to the player are clear and easily marked. Everything else, they’re going for a look like “edge of tomorrow“/“all you need is kill“ where it’s intentionally desaturated. This makes the hyper saturated bullet hell elements stand out even more. This is what you want. Unfortunately, bullet hell gameplay is not for me; so, while I like this look, I will not end up playing this game.

Other games managed with more interesting places than swamps and plains with red fog. Guess it doesn't help that it's randomised, which makes it less coherent too. Don't like the monster designs either. I hate looking at this game. Someone swap the gameplay of Ratchet with Returnal's :cat
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on April 29, 2021, 10:48:56 PM
I think Returnal looks alright, but i want people to take a break from """borrowing""" from Beksinski's paintings.
Pls find someone else to rip off.

Though admittedly, it was just the one biome that looks like that, The Medium was more shameless. (but they are Polish so i guess they can get away with it)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on April 29, 2021, 11:08:10 PM
I don’t know what you’re talking about in terms of drab art direction. Looking at any place where bullet hell gameplay is involved, the important parts to the player are clear and easily marked. Everything else, they’re going for a look like “edge of tomorrow“/“all you need is kill“ where it’s intentionally desaturated. This makes the hyper saturated bullet hell elements stand out even more. This is what you want. Unfortunately, bullet hell gameplay is not for me; so, while I like this look, I will not end up playing this game.

Other games managed with more interesting places than swamps and plains with red fog. Guess it doesn't help that it's randomised, which makes it less coherent too. Don't like the monster designs either. I hate looking at this game. Someone swap the gameplay of Ratchet with Returnal's :cat

it's only the order of the rooms/interconnecting hallways that are randomised afaik. everything else is done by hand
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on April 30, 2021, 02:48:10 AM
Played a couple hours of Returnal.

Game plays damn great, but man I fucking hate rogues. Get an hour in playing careful and then get to a room with a new mechanic I haven't seen before (regen enemy health stones) and die and lose most of that progress. I just don't have the patience for rogues and losing progress.

Plays really good and I like the adreline mechanic where the longer you go without getting hit the stronger you keep getting making it easier but gotta play more carefully. Basically encouraging glass cannon runs.

Music is pretty nice too.

Ambience-wise this game feels closer to Metroid than anything else I can think of. I like it a lot, just don't know if I'll have the patience to stick with it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 30, 2021, 04:59:28 AM
I liked A Crack in Time that was more puzzle based Clank stuff.

The Remake of 1 and the short Into the Nexus games were alright. I just want a meatier and more puzzle focused one than a flashy on-rails short game. Hopefully this is more like the former.

The 15 minutes they showed made it look like it's a true succesor to A Crack in Time. The biggest thing I'm hoping for is that it'll have some balls again. These modern Ratchet games have been so sanitized all the fun has been sucked out of them. (The remake managed to have some of the worst writing in the entire series.)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on April 30, 2021, 07:32:06 AM
I've never played through a R&C game.. The cartoonish vibe never appealed to me much back then... But having children now, I see it in a different light.  Rift Apart looked great to me. 

Played a couple hours of Returnal.

Game plays damn great, but man I fucking hate rogues. Get an hour in playing careful and then get to a room with a new mechanic I haven't seen before (regen enemy health stones) and die and lose most of that progress. I just don't have the patience for rogues and losing progress.

Plays really good and I like the adreline mechanic where the longer you go without getting hit the stronger you keep getting making it easier but gotta play more carefully. Basically encouraging glass cannon runs.

Music is pretty nice too.

Ambience-wise this game feels closer to Metroid than anything else I can think of. I like it a lot, just don't know if I'll have the patience to stick with it.
This might happen to me as well...  I'm on the cusp of finally beating DeS (hopefully this weekend)... and I'll probably need a break from brutal gameplay before jumping straight to this.  I took a break from DeS as well, but feel up for it now.  Sounds like this will be the same...   Granted, I can't say I've played a rogue game before, so it may totally sap me from enjoyment....  :doge ..or the opposite! Hate losing progress though.... But damn, I love bullet hell games!
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: archnemesis on April 30, 2021, 08:52:12 AM
I enjoyed all of the PS3 Ratchet & Clank games. The PSP games were not as good.

Part of the writing issues in the PS4 remake is caused by reusing scenes from the movie that don't fit in well.

I'll pick it up day one provided that I have a console by then. The last thing I heard from the supplier was "probably before summer".
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Potato on April 30, 2021, 03:58:51 PM
Returnal looks like one of those bang average games that only gets attention because it came out early in a console's lifecycle when there's fuck all else to play.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on April 30, 2021, 04:02:30 PM
Looks like a fun arcade game, just over priced.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on April 30, 2021, 05:00:40 PM
Returnal looks like one of those bang average games that only gets attention because it came out early in a console's lifecycle when there's fuck all else to play.

Nah, this is straight up wrong. Game plays really well. It's basically Vanquish x Hades. I don't like rogues, but it seems, like Hades, to be a really top-notch rogue. It also looks very good. DF said it's basically pushing the PS5 to the limit currently.

It's just overpriced. Some people finished run 1 already (the equivalent of Hades first escape) in about 5-6 hours. Runs 2+ change things and there's a secret true ending apparently, but still $69.99...probably too much.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Potato on April 30, 2021, 05:35:19 PM
Returnal looks like one of those bang average games that only gets attention because it came out early in a console's lifecycle when there's fuck all else to play.

Nah, this is straight up wrong. Game plays really well. It's basically Vanquish x Hades. I don't like rogues, but it seems, like Hades, to be a really top-notch rogue. It also looks very good. DF said it's basically pushing the PS5 to the limit currently.

It's just overpriced. Some people finished run 1 already (the equivalent of Hades first escape) in about 5-6 hours. Runs 2+ change things and there's a secret true ending apparently, but still $69.99...probably too much.
I'm happy to return to this post in 4 years to see if anyone remembers this game. My bet is that everyone will be like, "Returnal? What the fuck is that?"

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on April 30, 2021, 05:49:27 PM
Like the bore will be here in 4 years.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on April 30, 2021, 06:09:29 PM
Returnal looks like one of those bang average games that only gets attention because it came out early in a console's lifecycle when there's fuck all else to play.

Nah, this is straight up wrong. Game plays really well. It's basically Vanquish x Hades. I don't like rogues, but it seems, like Hades, to be a really top-notch rogue. It also looks very good. DF said it's basically pushing the PS5 to the limit currently.

It's just overpriced. Some people finished run 1 already (the equivalent of Hades first escape) in about 5-6 hours. Runs 2+ change things and there's a secret true ending apparently, but still $69.99...probably too much.
I'm happy to return to this post in 4 years to see if anyone remembers this game. My bet is that everyone will be like, "Returnal? What the fuck is that?"

idk, will anyone care about Hades in 4 years?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on April 30, 2021, 08:01:48 PM
Returnal looks like one of those bang average games that only gets attention because it came out early in a console's lifecycle when there's fuck all else to play.

Nah, this is straight up wrong. Game plays really well. It's basically Vanquish x Hades. I don't like rogues, but it seems, like Hades, to be a really top-notch rogue. It also looks very good. DF said it's basically pushing the PS5 to the limit currently.

It's just overpriced. Some people finished run 1 already (the equivalent of Hades first escape) in about 5-6 hours. Runs 2+ change things and there's a secret true ending apparently, but still $69.99...probably too much.
I'm happy to return to this post in 4 years to see if anyone remembers this game. My bet is that everyone will be like, "Returnal? What the fuck is that?"

idk, will anyone care about Hades in 4 years?
Yeah that goes for a lot of games nowadays.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Potato on April 30, 2021, 11:55:16 PM
Returnal looks like one of those bang average games that only gets attention because it came out early in a console's lifecycle when there's fuck all else to play.

Nah, this is straight up wrong. Game plays really well. It's basically Vanquish x Hades. I don't like rogues, but it seems, like Hades, to be a really top-notch rogue. It also looks very good. DF said it's basically pushing the PS5 to the limit currently.

It's just overpriced. Some people finished run 1 already (the equivalent of Hades first escape) in about 5-6 hours. Runs 2+ change things and there's a secret true ending apparently, but still $69.99...probably too much.
I'm happy to return to this post in 4 years to see if anyone remembers this game. My bet is that everyone will be like, "Returnal? What the fuck is that?"

idk, will anyone care about Hades in 4 years?
Exponentially more people will care about Hades in 4 years than will care about Returnal in 1 year.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: DJ Bedroom on May 01, 2021, 12:47:02 AM
People still talk about Bastion and to a lesser extent, Transistor, and Hades has had a better reception than both
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Quaker on May 01, 2021, 12:59:08 AM
You can say that about almost every game aside from like Breath of the Wild and GTA5(and Minecraft and Fortnite), though. Most people have short memories and are mostly interested in chasing the newest games for a few weeks or before dropping them* or playing whatever mega-popular multiplayer game is in fashion at the moment.

*(see how much buzz Monster Hunter and Outriders got the first few weeks compared to now)

I get what you're saying but it seems like Returnal has a little bit more going for it than Lair or Heavenly Sword.

It looks like it has some neat tech behind it and as someone who really appreciated the..."gamefeel" of the shooting mechanics in Super Stardust HD I'm interested to see how they tried to translate some basic SHMUP/bullet hell-lite mechanics to a third person shooter with Metroid aesthetics.

(That being said, I'm perfectly fine waiting two years until it's patched/feature complete and on PSN+)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on May 01, 2021, 03:32:46 AM
Got the first boss in Returnal and idkk, I really enjoyed the fight and the patterns but I didn't enjoy dying on the boss's final lifebar and then the game being "oh well, spend 30 mins getting back here for another try"

Makes Souls boss runs look fun.

I get that's rogues, but like in Hades I feel like you can get back to the first boss in like 5 mins. Returnal's levels are pretty big and stuff tends to murder you when you try to rush it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on May 01, 2021, 03:17:37 PM
To be fair I was thinking on this and like:

Hades - 1 full run is like 40 mins - 1 hour.
Returnal - 1 biome/world run is like 40 - 70 mins. And then you get a key that lets you skip to the next world pretty quickly on future runs.

So basically just treat each biome/world as a full Hades kind of run and the boss being like the final boss.


Also they easily could've made this a rogue-lite by carrying over weapon stat improvements and any armor/hp stuff. But they decided not too. The game is much more of a true rogue than a rogue-lite. The carry over stuff is extremely minimal and mostly just database stuff and some shortcuts. Housemarque has always kind of struck me a dev team that's a bunch of action game pros and they are like "git gud" rather than make accessible games for joe 6 pack.

I think Sony was pretty crazy to greenlight a $69.99 big budget game on that concept though. The Souls series for instance works and sells tons because it's hard but it's also really accessible and pretty much anyone can clear all of them and you can grind and explore and gear up to make things a lot easier.

I think putting out a non-accessible very hardcore game for a niche rogue audience for on a single console for $70 is not going to be a long lasting big seller. It'll sell because the dry period of a new console initially, and thanks to most people buying digital and it being harder to return once people discover they don't like it, but I think word of mouth will sink this with the casual audience.

I mean they're refusing to even put a fucking "save on quit" in so you have to do multi-hour runs in one go or use the rest mode and hope your system doesn't update. They seem pretty far up their ass tbh even if the game itself is quality.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on May 01, 2021, 03:18:50 PM
I sure hope Deathloop is more of a rogue-lite and accessible than this. I love Dishonored so I'd really like to be able to actually finish Deathloop. There's no way I will ever finish Returnal unless it gets ported to PC and I can use a trainer. Hell I'll be surprised if I ever see the 3rd world.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on May 01, 2021, 10:09:16 PM
Yeah from videos, the shooting looks really fun, but i can't stand rough-like shit, tbh.
It's one thing in a game that's completely arcade, like Nex Machina, i usually play those like you'd play tetris, just fire it up, shoot a bit until you die, and turn off.

But if there's major progression involved, it's annoying to me.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on May 02, 2021, 04:16:35 AM
Returnal is trippy af.  This is one of the most unique games I've played in awhile.  This game is the offspring of Sam Gideon making babies with Samus Aran. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on May 02, 2021, 06:48:38 AM
All this talk about Metroid / Returnal might lead to me impulse buying a PS5 :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on May 02, 2021, 06:52:55 AM
All this talk about Metroid / Returnal might lead to me impulse buying a PS5 :doge
Thankfully the shortages prevent impulse buying of anything electronic!
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Kestastrophe on May 02, 2021, 11:22:40 AM
Thanks for the impressions Bebs
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on May 02, 2021, 05:09:13 PM
Sam Gideon making babies with Samus Aran.

 :shaq
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Trent Dole on May 02, 2021, 05:11:32 PM
All this talk about Metroid / Returnal might lead to me impulse buying a PS5 :doge
Thankfully the shortages prevent impulse buying of anything electronic!
From what I'm hearing of this game it sounds cool but the tales of it crashing lots and people losing runs due to no auto save makes me fine with waiting for the time being.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on May 02, 2021, 05:16:27 PM
lack of autosave feels like v misguided pandering to teh hardcore gamers. i hear the infamous REST MODE lets you stop a run midway and resume so long as your console doesn't error and have to rebuild the db coming out of rest
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on May 02, 2021, 05:53:17 PM
slightly understandable not wanting people to save scum with cloud saves, but also it's a single player game. who gives a fuck
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: DJ Bedroom on May 03, 2021, 08:06:56 PM
Yeah, I got through the first three biomes of the game to complete act 1 and it took three and a half hours. I was ready to quit after about an hour but didn't wanna lose my progress or trust rest mode to actually work. I haven't picked it back up since. Ain't nobody got time fo dat
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on May 05, 2021, 03:40:25 AM
Yeah I don't think this game is for me. Or rather this genre is for me. The gunplay and shump gameplay are excellent. Really frenetic stuff, some of the best TPS since Vanquish.

It just feels like a giant waste of time to me when you lose all your progress if you die. I don't get it.

Also playing this game feels like it's holding my Playstation hostage. It's kind of an exhausting game, but I guess if I stop and turn it off I lose my character build.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on May 05, 2021, 03:54:58 AM
The concept of Rogues is that they're supposed to be like playing a game at the arcade with one quarter and seeing how far you can get, except you also have a lot of quarters so you keep replaying and improving at the game and getting further.

The only thing is that the longer these games are like Returnal's 5-6 hours for a single run the less this works in that concept. Though at least Returnal has shortcuts for the biomes.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on May 05, 2021, 07:35:22 AM
There's another update today, so they're already telling folks to turn off auto-updates if you're in the middle of a run.   :doge

They have too much riding on this game to not address these concerns in some form or fashion sooner than later. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on May 05, 2021, 06:01:03 PM
I guess you are right. I’ve thought a lot today about how I want to get home and try another run.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on May 05, 2021, 07:08:52 PM
Aaand the update got rolled back because it was corrupting saves.  :snoop  Glad I haven't started this game yet.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on May 05, 2021, 07:43:34 PM
feels like they were onto a real winner w returnal and bungled it to the point it's probably going to lose momentum and peter out as a critically welcomed, niche oddity. lf to picking it up in the bargain bin :p
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on May 05, 2021, 07:45:46 PM
lol

I turned off auto-updates because the weakest cheats ever that were discovered today I want to keep. They don't really help much besides letting you get a better gun (which I guess does help a lot) since you can build up proficiency to like 5-15 and then create a gun at that rank to use for the rest of the level/boss and you can switch weapons. Also lets you access the pay 2 win LE weapon that apparently destroys bosses early in the game instead of endgame only.

There's also a cheat to warp you back to ship, but since you can do that from any teleport spot doesn't seem like much of a difference. The gun cheat seems like the only helpful cheat. Too bad there's no SAVE GAME cheat.

Will give the game another attempt this weekend with the cheats and see if I can clear it and move on.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: DJ Bedroom on May 05, 2021, 10:11:22 PM
It was really strange seeing an official dev's twitter literally telling players to not update the game if they wanted to "save" their progress
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 05, 2021, 10:11:34 PM
Who still believes Ragnarok and the new Horizon game comin out this year?  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on May 05, 2021, 10:23:18 PM
Horizon 2 sure, likely their big holiday title.

GT7 and GoW maybe next year.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on May 05, 2021, 10:23:42 PM
Horizon? Sure .. GOW2? Eh, not so much.  That sounds like a Spring of 2022 launch the earliest.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on May 05, 2021, 10:52:37 PM
Horizon is confirmed cross gen, could they really release a cross gen title in 2022? Although with this shortage, that's not absurd.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on May 05, 2021, 11:15:22 PM
surely cross gen shouldn't be an issue anymore, like a game running on a pc with a 4690k and a 1060 or a 3090 and a new ryzen and features scaling appropriately. can imagine x-gen being a thing for a lot longer, esp with the pro/x model consoles. no reason not to sell a janky low res 30fps version of the game unless they're worried about bad press
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on May 06, 2021, 12:56:10 AM
I sure hope they show some actual real gameplay stuff from GoW and GT at E3 this summer, otherwise I don't even know if 2022 is realistic for those...
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on May 06, 2021, 02:59:45 AM
HZD came out in early 2017 and the DLC later that year. The sequel coming out this year isn't completely crazy, but I don't think it's necessarily a given. GoW, highly doubt it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on May 06, 2021, 03:11:09 AM
Given that it's multiplatform, it's probably gonna be more of an iterative sequel. 3-4 years is plenty of time and Guerilla is pretty efficient.

Remember Horizon 2 was planned to be out Summer 2021 so like...next month. Even with a slight delay I think it'll make it by November.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 06, 2021, 12:41:38 PM
I sure hope they show some actual real gameplay stuff from GoW and GT at E3 this summer, otherwise I don't even know if 2022 is realistic for those...

Isn't Sony skipping E3 tho? I'm sure they'll have some sort of Sony direct around then tho

I think GoW:Ragnarok is likely going to reuse a lot of assets/locations from the last game so it might be farther along than people think.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on May 06, 2021, 05:44:20 PM
Ratchet - June
Horizon - September
God of War - November/December

Something like this would be my guess.
Horizon already had a gameplay trailer and GOW could indeed be a continuation of what they did with the PS4 game.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 06, 2021, 06:13:20 PM
I feel like September is too soon for a game we have basically seen fuck all of; marketing/promoting AAA titles isn't done that way. I think Nov/Dec is more likely for Horizon, probably Q2 of 2022 for Ragnarok

(still better than the exclusives on the Xboxen)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on May 06, 2021, 06:37:12 PM
I feel like September is too soon for a game we have basically seen fuck all of; marketing/promoting AAA titles isn't done that way. I think Nov/Dec is more likely for Horizon, probably Q2 of 2022 for Ragnarok

(still better than the exclusives on the Xboxen)

What exclusives 😏
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on May 06, 2021, 08:22:35 PM
Horizon as a Holiday title would be great, but it’s not going to surprise me if it’s like a March 2022 title. GoW no way is coming out anytime soon.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on May 07, 2021, 07:32:50 AM
PS5 is getting a redesign, but according to the article, it's just for internal components.

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/playstation-5-redesign-will-enter-production-in-2022-new-report-claims/
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 07, 2021, 03:17:29 PM
PS5 is getting a redesign, but according to the article, it's just for internal components.

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/playstation-5-redesign-will-enter-production-in-2022-new-report-claims/

I'm highly dubious about those claims, simply because as far as I know, all AMD shit is being fabricated by TSMC and of the two fab options (the other being Samsung) TSMC is apparently BY FAR more hammered and able to output less product than its partners want. But if this is a new 6nm process maybe that will make a difference? I would imagine there'd still be competition for parts even if the fab process is different but I don't know 100% for sure.

If Sony wants to impress me they'll start selling the consoles in black like God intended. I had to buy a can of fucking plastidip and spend an afternoon spraying that shit outdoors because I wasn't about to sully my house with white electronics if I can help it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on May 07, 2021, 07:04:01 PM
Don’t know if I’ll finish Returnal as it is a decent challenge and rogue likes are not my thing.

But so far the game is incredibly fun. It’s tense and always surprising. Brings out the best of the fly impulse thinking shooting.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on May 08, 2021, 12:46:06 AM
So after a 70 min run attempt for the first time in a week on Returnal I died on the mini-boss with my pistol because was trying to wait until I had a high proficiency to pick up weapon chests and didn't even get back to the boss and rageeeeed.

Then I used the cheats. I didn't realize the ship teleport cheat actually respawns the map while keeping all your stuff. So you can keep running the first biome map over and over and powering up money, weapon proficiency, max HP.

I got to the Biome 1 boss again with weapon 6star, 160% max hp, an astronaut, an HP pack and like 500 money leftover.

Turns out I didn't need any of that stuff because this being the 2nd time I've tried the boss (well 3rd because I used the respawn on my 1st attempt for 2 tries), I knew its patterns and only got hit like once in the fight lulz.

Then I got to biome 2 and walked through a green force field into a no-dash lava bit with lasers that was draining my HP and was totally bullshit about to gotcha kill me when I just used the cheat to respawn at my ship and put it in rest mode.

I guess I'll try to clear the damn thing this weekend before tackling RE8. I like the combat but bullshit stuff like that is ridiculous in a game where you can lose hours of run progress. Also the biomes are too big & long. I want to try to finish the game but spending an hour each level is just too much.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on May 08, 2021, 02:55:02 AM
Got to the platforming bit on the boss of Biome 3 and died and deleted the game. Just not enjoying this. Some bits are really frustrating (shielded enemies, stuff like that platforming bit) and having to lose so much progress each death is not my kind of thing.

Will youtube biomes 4-6 to see what the rest looks like. But this was a miss for my tastes.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on May 08, 2021, 04:26:01 AM
Gave it another shot and spent an hour and couldn't even get back to the boss of biome 3. The drones and their homing missiles fucked up two attempts after 20+ mins in about 10 seconds of homing missile barrages. These enemies suck. There's a whole reddit thread on them:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Returnal/comments/n3dv16/drones/
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on May 08, 2021, 01:06:52 PM
FINALLY beat Demon's Souls last night!!  :rejoice Game is freakin' amazing.  Loved it! 

And Finally started a Returnal run last night at 3am... Played about 30 minutes... Get up today, my son decides, on all days, to play something on the PS5.  :dead. I was hesitant on letting him, But saw there was another update this morning, so it wouldn't have mattered anyway.  :foxx Maybe like Cyberpunk, I should wait till this game is ironed out some.   :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on May 08, 2021, 02:03:27 PM
Congrats! Demon's Souls is so good.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on May 09, 2021, 09:08:55 PM
These Retrunal boss battles are making me remember as kid getting really focused and remembering attack patterns.

In one run I was able to get through 2nd and 3rd biomes. Intense stuff. The boss battles have been pretty fun. So now I'm on act 2.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on May 12, 2021, 12:25:16 PM
Quote
According to Hermen Hulst, a Guerrilla cofounder whom Jim Ryan tapped to lead PlayStation Studios in 2019, the group has more than 25 titles in development for the PS5—nearly half of which are entirely new IP. “There’s an incredible amount of variety originating from different regions,” Hulst says. “Big, small, different genres.”
https://www.wired.com/story/playstation-5-six-months-later/
 :obama
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tuckers Law on May 12, 2021, 06:01:22 PM
That’s a whole lot of third-person over-the-shoulder action adventures.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 12, 2021, 06:11:06 PM
That’s a whole lot of third-person over-the-shoulder action adventures.

Hopefully starring sad dads
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on May 13, 2021, 01:36:52 AM
I mean they have a limited number of teams anyway, so that number means whatever.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on May 13, 2021, 01:53:59 AM
That’s a whole lot of third-person over-the-shoulder action adventures.
Fuck yeah
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tuckers Law on May 13, 2021, 02:19:18 AM
I’ve been talking a fair bit of shit on Sony lately, but if instead of just more endless Ass Creed-em-ups one of those games is a new Jumping Flash, I’ll eat my words and get back on the train.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on May 13, 2021, 07:35:20 AM
I’ve been talking a fair bit of shit on Sony lately, but if instead of just more endless Ass Creed-em-ups one of those games is a new Jumping Flash, I’ll eat my words and get back on the train.
I don't see them making a full-on, stand alone jumping flash.. if they did, it would have to have VR integrated to make it stand alone (same with GITS  :lawd).... However, I can very easily see them having a homage to JF in Astrobot Rescue Mission 2.  :ohyeah
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on May 13, 2021, 07:24:07 PM
 :lawd https://direct.playstation.com/en-us/accessories/accessory/dualsense-wireless-controller-midnight-black.3006392
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 13, 2021, 07:30:43 PM
give us this

(https://i.imgur.com/ULwJITA.jpg)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on May 13, 2021, 07:50:07 PM
They did for the PS4 so maybe.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on May 13, 2021, 08:19:59 PM
:lawd https://direct.playstation.com/en-us/accessories/accessory/dualsense-wireless-controller-midnight-black.3006392
Damn red looks sex as hell.

And black looks great, have been the standard.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on May 15, 2021, 03:10:22 PM
Had a good sesh in Returnal last night.  Got past the first boss the second attempt pretty easily.  Died once in the second biome, but got past the second boss first try.  Totally had a good adrenaline streak and just ripped through enemies.  Had to stop at the 3rd biome for the night and will pick up there tonight.  Not sure why I haven't put two and two together, but this game is really starting to give me PN03 vibes... Just swap the sass with eerie grit.  :heh   This game is good stuff.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Beezy on May 17, 2021, 02:52:43 PM
Not sure why I haven't put two and two together, but this game is really starting to give me PN03 vibes... Just swap the sass with eerie grit.
Sold
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on May 17, 2021, 03:11:12 PM
This game hasn't really been that hard (so far).  Sure, there's challenge, but anyone that's played a videogame from the 8-bit/16-bit era should feel ok with "starting over" when you die.  The important stuff you permanently keep.  This isn't Soulslike hard, just old-school arcade style tough... But upgrading your weapon to suit your play style, you can shred through enemies with ease.  I've died twice in the 3rd biome only because of doing stupid shit I could've easily avoided.
It was a good incentive to put it down and move onto another game for the remainder of my playtime.  Will pick up and play again next sesh... That being said, I'm starting to think the questionable save mechanic is a bit blown out of proportion.  I'd like to see it remedied still, but not as bad as some folks make it out to be... It shouldn't deter someone from trying this game.  If you want fast paced, sci-fi, pew pew pew goodness, ..this game is it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on May 17, 2021, 03:25:12 PM
It's not that hard it's just that if you die you lose so much progress and it's a pain in the ass.

I got to the boss of biome 3 on a good run where I cleared biome 2 on the first try and got there. But I died on the boss on the final part because it was confusing with the platforms disappearing and I didn't know what to do and now if I ever want to retry that fight I have to spend 40-60 mins to get back for another attempt and I just don't want to spend that much time where I might die again and make no further progress.

I've tried speedrunning back to the boss in 10-20 mins but I always die in biome 3 on the way because this game is horrible for speedrunning and will murder the crap out of you. The drones would always show up in a huge pack and kill me if I rushed.

If there were at least saves and I could start at the beginning of Biome 3 each time with my loadout I had when I first got to the boss then it'd only take me 5-10 mins to get back for another try and I'd keep fighting the boss until I cleared it. But the rogue-way it is where I have to spend an hour for 1 more attempt just isn't worth it to me.

Returnal is solid but it's the worst game I've bought this year for my tastes. Definitely regret the $70. Maybe would've been ok at $20-30.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on May 17, 2021, 04:04:18 PM
If there were at least saves and I could start at the beginning of Biome 3 each time with my loadout I had when I first got to the boss then it'd only take me 5-10 mins to get back for another try and I'd keep fighting the boss until I cleared it. But the rogue-way it is where I have to spend an hour for 1 more attempt just isn't worth it to me.
I mean, I agree... that would make it much more tolerable.  Especially from me saying that, who complains all the time about not having enough time for gaming.  :-[  Granted, I only have about 6-8 hours logged in, it hasn't gotten stale yet.  Gotten new weapon upgrades each time I've played, so it's felt fresh still.  But also, I feel I've been lucky with certain randomizations.  One of those 2 times I died in biome 3, the gates to the 2nd biome were only 2 little hubs from my crash site, so I got there in less than a minute.   It's very possible I haven't played nearly enough though for it to start affecting me.   Again, I hope they do something soon, because I can't really imagine going through it all when getting to 6th biome tier runs.   I'm sure by then I'll be carrying a different tune.  :doge  Still loving the gameplay immensely.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on May 17, 2021, 05:32:59 PM
I really don't get the appeal of rogue-likes.
I get it's supposed to mimic the arcade experience, but that has always been a miserable one for me, when i was kid.
I mean i loved going to the arcade of course, but because you'd go with friends, and they'd have these unique games, or premium cabinets with bike peripherals, car seats, guns etc.... not because you had to spend a fortune to get through a couple of levels.  ???

Even in Souls games, which aren't even rogue-like, the worst part is doing the little gauntlet before retrying a boss.
Usually it's just tedious to me.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on May 17, 2021, 06:16:45 PM
You get better each iteration, you improve, but things also change enough that it's not the same. A distillation of what heaps of popular games that focus on "replayability" rely on like playing a multiplayer FPS or a multiplayer crpg like Diablo. Repeating a gameplay loop, improving, getting a little further, doing it a little faster etc. Roguelikes are just the og.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on May 17, 2021, 06:30:41 PM
Uhm, yeah maybe the illusion of halted progression is what puts people who don't like RL off.
Because i can play a game with no apparent progression (like Trackmania or PES or even Nex Machina) and have fun with no problem.

Though thinking about it, something like Souls just isn't fun to pop in and play for 10 minutes, like these other games are.
Dunno where Returnal falls into that spectrum.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on May 17, 2021, 06:39:29 PM
Well I do think the game is hard. They can throw some nasty deployment of enemies at you and in general you can get a run that doesn’t give you what you need or want.

But also the more you play the more you are aware of how enemies attack and how you want to engage in them. Also the more you play the more you do find yourself in the “zone”. It’s truly arcade in that way.

But I do think one of the problems with Returnal is it can be a slog. You die and there’s a lot of ground to cover to get back where you were. And the seams of the randomly generated world become even more obvious and less interesting.

It’s a good game, but perhaps also a case that this genre doesn’t need to be AAA. A lot of what I’ve read about this genre seems to be how pick and play and quick it is, which I don’t think really applies to this game. On a work day I don’t want to really spend all that time only to die and do it over.

That said, I spent plenty of runs trying to get past the fourth Biome and I did it last night. The game is a rush.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on May 17, 2021, 06:51:03 PM
i was speaking generally to roguelikes because you were speaking generally. i haven't played returnal. tbh, i haven't gotten really into a roguelike in a while, but i used to love playing nethack with friends in the compsci labs, and i really enjoyed what i played of spelunky, FTL, enter the gungeon etc and yeah, souls games do riff on the genre too and is one of my favourite series. hades is in the backlog
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on May 17, 2021, 07:09:48 PM
re returnal, i dont think people need to worry about it marking the beginning of a wealth of AAA roguelikes. shit is already selling for half the rrp 2nd hand here, i'll grab it when it's $30 is a year or so :p

im old and cbf with this shit either, but i also dont hate that someone gave it a crack. commercially it seems like they made a lot of really cooked decisions though, would've been so much more popular if it wasn't so oddly designed
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on May 18, 2021, 07:39:12 AM
https://youtu.be/d4Y2ipI2Alg

Made me laugh. Oh well, back to playing Medievil remake at 60fps.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 18, 2021, 11:47:25 AM
I wanted to shooty-bang some monsters so I bought Binding of Isaac: RTX On (Returnal). Did one run yesterday evening and made it to the Biome 1 boss and got killed. Seems fun.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: tiesto on May 26, 2021, 04:14:37 PM
Oh cool, my brother was keeping a lookout for PS5's for me and managed to secure one off Amazon. I'll still have to pay him, I told him I should've asked for it as a wedding gift but my fiancee would probably kill me :P

Think that Village, Intergrade, and Demons Souls HD will be my first titles... later Scarlet Nexus. Anything else worth picking up?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on May 26, 2021, 04:52:31 PM
Oh cool, my brother was keeping a lookout for PS5's for me and managed to secure one off Amazon. I'll still have to pay him, I told him I should've asked for it as a wedding gift but my fiancee would probably kill me :P

Think that Village, Intergrade, and Demons Souls HD will be my first titles... later Scarlet Nexus. Anything else worth picking up?
And ASTROBOT ASTROBOT ASTROBOT ASTROBOT ASTROBOT!!!  :awesome

If you have PS+, definitely take advantage of the Plus Collection too.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on May 26, 2021, 06:02:02 PM
Oh cool, my brother was keeping a lookout for PS5's for me and managed to secure one off Amazon. I'll still have to pay him, I told him I should've asked for it as a wedding gift but my fiancee would probably kill me :P

Think that Village, Intergrade, and Demons Souls HD will be my first titles... later Scarlet Nexus. Anything else worth picking up?

Miles is a solid game if you liked the PS4 Spider-Man. Also AC Valhalla looks and runs pretty awesome on PS5 if you like the AC western rpg thing.

But Demon Souls & Astrobot still the best. Also PS4 titles that got a 60fps boost if you haven't played them like Ghost of Tsushima.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on May 26, 2021, 06:18:12 PM
Tsushima and God Of War are straight sex at 60 FPS. Never noticed any bad drops in either game.

I'm playing Valhalla right now and while it runs well at 60 most of the time, there is some bad screen tearing in the medium to large sized towns. Running around in Jorvik has nasty performance issues, for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on May 26, 2021, 06:33:01 PM
Tsushima and God Of War are straight sex at 60 FPS. Never noticed any bad drops in either game.

I'm playing Valhalla right now and while it runs well at 60 most of the time, there is some bad screen tearing in the medium to large sized towns. Running around in Jorvik has nasty performance issues, for whatever reason.

I noticed the tearing in Jorvik, but I've been playing 60fps mode for the last few months and haven't really noticed any tearing in England (I'm sure there's some, but it's not very noticable). I'm more than happy with the performance. Best an AC has run since Black Flag on consoles.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: tiesto on May 27, 2021, 12:41:53 AM
Oh cool, my brother was keeping a lookout for PS5's for me and managed to secure one off Amazon. I'll still have to pay him, I told him I should've asked for it as a wedding gift but my fiancee would probably kill me :P

Think that Village, Intergrade, and Demons Souls HD will be my first titles... later Scarlet Nexus. Anything else worth picking up?

Miles is a solid game if you liked the PS4 Spider-Man. Also AC Valhalla looks and runs pretty awesome on PS5 if you like the AC western rpg thing.

But Demon Souls & Astrobot still the best. Also PS4 titles that got a 60fps boost if you haven't played them like Ghost of Tsushima.

I played one of the ACs back in the 360 days... think it was the second one? Felt a bit too sluggish movement-wise, and I am not really into the whole open world checkbox gaming game.
Totally forgot about Like A Dragon, was skipping the PS4 version bc of PS5... so I'll just buy it there. And maybe DMC and NiOh.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on May 27, 2021, 12:46:44 AM
Oh cool, my brother was keeping a lookout for PS5's for me and managed to secure one off Amazon. I'll still have to pay him, I told him I should've asked for it as a wedding gift but my fiancee would probably kill me :P

Think that Village, Intergrade, and Demons Souls HD will be my first titles... later Scarlet Nexus. Anything else worth picking up?

Miles is a solid game if you liked the PS4 Spider-Man. Also AC Valhalla looks and runs pretty awesome on PS5 if you like the AC western rpg thing.

But Demon Souls & Astrobot still the best. Also PS4 titles that got a 60fps boost if you haven't played them like Ghost of Tsushima.

I played one of the ACs back in the 360 days... think it was the second one? Felt a bit too sluggish movement-wise, and I am not really into the whole open world checkbox gaming game.
Totally forgot about Like A Dragon, was skipping the PS4 version bc of PS5... so I'll just buy it there. And maybe DMC and NiOh.

Oh yeah, Yakuza 7 is a good pick. Nioh is a good deal if you like Souls. DMCV is the best version of the game but depends on if you care about the genre. The story/levels/everything suck outside the combat imo, but the combat is pretty great.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: archnemesis on May 27, 2021, 01:58:06 AM
My PS5 showed up last week and I'm loving Returnal.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on May 27, 2021, 09:20:19 AM
In Returnal, I've been stuck on Biome 3.  The mobs are brutal there...   A least once you get there, you can reach it in a matter of minutes, completely skipping Biome 2 every time afterwards; going from a level one gun to a level ten next pickup..  Read everywhere though that Biome 3 is the huge hurdle of the game with a very high difficulty spike.  You definitely want the best gun you're comfortable with.  Once past though, it should be smooth sailing the rest of the way. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on May 27, 2021, 12:53:04 PM
5h long screensaver before the actual stream :rejoice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLR5gaQNQBk
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 27, 2021, 06:08:31 PM
lol, no release date, this ain't coming out this year either
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on May 27, 2021, 07:15:34 PM
lol, no release date, this ain't coming out this year either

It's over?

Oh well, I wonder what Sony will have in store for the holidays if it's not this.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on May 27, 2021, 07:48:12 PM
They're probably waiting for Nintendo and Microsoft to show more cards first. Last time they got swamped by BOTW and Nier Automata.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on May 27, 2021, 11:16:47 PM
Game looks stunning though.. They showed a bunch of improvements in combat and traversal, and that's what I wanted most.  Day flippin one. 

Now where the hell is the 60fps performance mode reveal and a ZD 60fps patch for PS5??  :hmph
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on May 28, 2021, 12:07:55 AM
They've been weird with release dates, we didn't get a Returnal date until 2 months before release. 4 months for R&C. Miles Morales and Demon's Souls were November launch games but they didn't really reveal that until September of last year.

Deathloop is Sept, Ghostwire is October. I could still see Horizon being the Nov/Dec game.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on May 28, 2021, 12:24:51 AM
I think them not revealing a release date and then saying it's on track is them legitimately not knowing. They are probably playing a wait-and-see game, if they can get it out this year they will. If they can't I expect a January-March 2022 date. Don't want to promise only to disappoint.

That said I thought it looked great. The human combat looks a little Souls for babies, but that's still a lot better than the shit human combat from the first game.

The new gadgets look cool and I can't wait to use them on the robo enemies, which look as fun as ever to fight. 

The graphics look very good. Great for a first-year cross gen title. Even if it's 30fps, the first game was one of the most solid feeling 30fps games of the last gen. I do hope there is a 60fps mode though.

Can't wait. Personally, Horizon was my favorite first party game.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on May 28, 2021, 12:33:33 AM
I’ll definitely play Horizon 1 whenever 2 is getting within months of release. One of the few big exclusives last gen I never got around to.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on May 28, 2021, 12:45:28 AM
As for the actual trailer...The hookshot looked neat, we needed more mobility options. I was kind of hoping for the anchor and rope tech from Death Stranding but the BotW style glider makes that moot. Super moves are a cool edition, the close combat with humans was the weakest part of the first game.

The underwater stuff looks unbelievable.   :hyper

MOTHER FUCKING ROBO RAPTOR MOUNTS.  :aah
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on May 28, 2021, 02:52:25 AM
Graphics and raptors look cool.
The game looks kind of dated (design wise), in particular the traversal.

This the same issue Ghost of Tsushima, and to a degree the first Horizon, had.

TBH i expected something more exciting, but it is cross gen after all.
I like the setting much more though.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on May 28, 2021, 08:56:02 AM
Saw that the new Trails of game by Falcom this fall isn’t having a native ps5 version. Goddamn PS5 is a fucking mess over there. Sales so bad these companies are just releasing on PS4 and saying “use BC” and you know in a year or two they’ll release the native ps5 version.

Nier Replicant, TWEWY2, Trails of the Black, Japan ps4 Devs really dropping the ball. I think Tales of Arise is the only one getting a native ps5 version?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on May 28, 2021, 09:29:20 AM
Saw that the new Trails of game by Falcom this fall isn’t having a native ps5 version. Goddamn PS5 is a fucking mess over there. Sales so bad these companies are just releasing on PS4 and saying “use BC” and you know in a year or two they’ll release the native ps5 version.

Nier Replicant, TWEWY2, Trails of the Black, Japan ps4 Devs really dropping the ball. I think Tales of Arise is the only one getting a native ps5 version?
 

Not surprised when it comes to Falcom TBH.  But for a lot of these games in general, what's the point?  PS4 games run on PS5 and nobody can get a PS5 anyway so they probably want to wait for a larger userbase.  It took a couple of years for a lot of games to stop releasing on the PS3 (or to only get PS4 releases instead of PS3/PS4) last gen, too.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on May 28, 2021, 09:33:18 AM
Falcom are Sony fanboys and they said last fall they were working on a ps5 game.

So this really looks like they got cold feet and are holding off on releasing it.


Ps5 native makes a difference for fast loading, dual sense, and 4k like how Nier Replicant is still 1080p/60fps in BC.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on May 28, 2021, 09:37:50 AM
Falcom are Sony fanboys and they said last fall they were working on a ps5 game.

So this really looks like they got cold feet and are holding off on releasing it.

Again- Falcom.  :P


Ps5 native makes a difference for fast loading, dual sense, and 4k like how Nier Replicant is still 1080p/60fps in BC.

Prepare to be disappointed for another year or two.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: tiesto on May 28, 2021, 10:10:13 PM
I'm sure Kuro will eventually get a PS5 up-port.. probably when it's finally time to release it over here.

Fuck, I'm still waiting on Hajimari (and holding out further hope that we get Crossbell and Nayuta Kai). If even goddamn Dragon Quest (the epitome of heavy-text games that are much more popular in Japan than the states) is getting worldwide same-day releases, Falcom could at least be a bit more receptive to their rapidly-expanding western fans. I heard a rumor that Falcom licenses their games out only after they've been on the market for at least a year in Japan, and then of course you have NIS or Xseed or whoever taking another year plus to translate. At least eliminate that rule and let the US team go ham as soon as the game has gone gold.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 01, 2021, 12:00:44 PM
Seems Returnal is going down in price pretty fast. Started at 75 euros over here, now you can get a new copy for 53.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on June 02, 2021, 03:46:18 AM
Wow 53€ so cheap
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on June 02, 2021, 03:59:26 AM
It is in this economy :trumps
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on June 02, 2021, 04:10:57 AM
Laughs in glorious pc gaming
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: chronovore on June 02, 2021, 05:03:26 AM
Oh cool, my brother was keeping a lookout for PS5's for me and managed to secure one off Amazon. I'll still have to pay him, I told him I should've asked for it as a wedding gift but my fiancee would probably kill me :P

Think that Village, Intergrade, and Demons Souls HD will be my first titles... later Scarlet Nexus. Anything else worth picking up?
And ASTROBOT ASTROBOT ASTROBOT ASTROBOT ASTROBOT!!!  :awesome

If you have PS+, definitely take advantage of the Plus Collection too.

What's the Plus Collection?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 02, 2021, 05:12:57 AM

What's the Plus Collection?


A collection of games that gets added to a PS5 owners account when they subscribe to PS Plus.


    Batman: Arkham Knight
    Battlefield 1
    Bloodborne
    Call of Duty Black Ops III Zombies Chronicles
    Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy
    Days Gone
    Detroit: Become Human
    Fallout 4
    Final Fantasy XV
    God of War
    inFAMOUS: Second Son
    The Last Guardian
    The Last of Us Remastered
    Monster Hunter: World
    Mortal Kombat X
    Persona 5
    Ratchet & Clank
    Resident Evil 7: Biohazard
    Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
    Until Dawn
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on June 02, 2021, 01:15:43 PM
Miles Morales on PS4
Sackboy on PS4
Horizon 2 on PS4
God of War 2 on PS4
Gran Turismo 7 on PS4
Astrobot Playroom
Returnal
Ratchet and Clank

"We believe in generations"

"Play has No Limits"
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 02, 2021, 02:06:11 PM
God of War delayed to 2022, Horizon release date "uncertain"

https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/2/22465232/god-of-war-ragnorok-ps5-ps4-delay-2022
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 02, 2021, 02:31:08 PM
Miles Morales on PS4
Sackboy on PS4
Horizon 2 on PS4
God of War 2 on PS4
Gran Turismo 7 on PS4
Astrobot Playroom
Returnal
Ratchet and Clank

"We believe in generations"

"Play has No Limits"
Meanwhile on the Xbox family of consoles:
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on June 02, 2021, 02:48:52 PM
Miles Morales on PS4
Sackboy on PS4
Horizon 2 on PS4
God of War 2 on PS4
Gran Turismo 7 on PS4
Astrobot Playroom
Returnal
Ratchet and Clank

"We believe in generations"

"Play has No Limits"
Meanwhile on the Xbox family of consoles:

I don't think anyone cares because of Gamepass.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 02, 2021, 02:51:57 PM
Not like they have a choice.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on June 02, 2021, 02:52:24 PM
Meanwhile on the Xbox family of consoles:

MLB The Show 21 on Xbox GamePass
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on June 02, 2021, 02:58:24 PM
Miles Morales on PS4
Sackboy on PS4
Horizon 2 on PS4
God of War 2 on PS4
Gran Turismo 7 on PS4
Astrobot Playroom
Returnal
Ratchet and Clank

"We believe in generations"

"Play has No Limits"
Meanwhile on the Xbox family of consoles:

Can't piss people off with delays or cross-gen games if you're not making any :rollsafe
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 02, 2021, 03:03:14 PM
They already delayed their one cross gen game by a year.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on June 02, 2021, 03:06:05 PM
The only thing I'm disappointed about is that God of War has always been a holy shit visual showoff game, and if it was ps5 exclusive I would expect it would be the best looking videogame in existence at release, even PC included.

As cross-gen though? Nah. Won't even be the best looking PS5 game most likely.

Maybe GoW3 in 2026/2027...
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on June 02, 2021, 03:09:08 PM
I think for cross-gen titles they should go the old down-port by some other port studio making a whole different game just re-using assets.

They don't do that anymore, but that would make the most sense to not have new system games held back.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 02, 2021, 03:31:41 PM
But think of the raytracing accurately reflecting of his bald head on the PS5. Higher quality volumetric lights wafting through his beard.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 02, 2021, 03:44:52 PM
Maybe now GoW will have ray tracing at 60fps.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 02, 2021, 04:05:02 PM
AMD's machine learning substitute (FSR) is getting rolled out to their pc video cards starting next month, and since both new systems use AMD gpus with the same RDNA2 architecture, the expectation is that it will come to consoles eventually too. Any delays might let them implement FSR to improve performance across the board (with raytracing on or off)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on June 02, 2021, 04:10:14 PM
Maybe now GoW will have ray tracing at 60fps.
Doesn't seem like a title that would benefit all that much from reflections, and ray traced GI is probably way to expensive for PS5.
Unless AMD plans to implement their super resolution thing on consoles?

Oh PS5 is not RDNA2, IIRC, only Series X is, i wonder if that's going to be a problem for it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 02, 2021, 04:48:52 PM
??? Do a google search on "PS5 RDNA2" or "PS5 GPU"
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on June 02, 2021, 04:56:18 PM
PS5 should be using a custom hybrid between RDNA1 and 2.
While Series X uses standard RDNA2.

I doubt it'd be an issue if FSR was ever implemented on consoles though, since it should work on older AMD card too.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on June 02, 2021, 05:10:17 PM
DLSS and AMD's version will be a game changer in the console space for all the systems once they implement it.

The biggest issue is going to be the unlike PC there will likely be no way to turn it off and from using DLSS on PC, in some games the implementation is crappy and nukes the IQ. So I can see a whole generation of console exclusive games looking shitty because the devs don't know how to implement this stuff great or force it on the equivalent of performance > IQ DLSS and you can't turn it off.

When used correctly though, yeah 60fps/4k gaming with RTX and maxed out visuals.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 02, 2021, 05:25:55 PM
Weird, most things I find either say "uhhh" or that the Oberon soc the PS5 is running on is using RDNA2. But who knows.

As for whether it matters, probably not since FSR will reportedly work even on shit as old as an NVIDIA 1060.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: thetylerrob on June 02, 2021, 06:41:39 PM
I think we'll probably see better implementation of DLSS once the consoles start relying on it more. It's definitely hit or miss right now on PC.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on June 02, 2021, 06:55:54 PM
we still don't know what the differences between sony and m$ custom SoC's are, it's all speculation. but i bet it ends up like Ms has specific directx function support on chip whereas sony doesn't. tl;dr they will both have some customisations that differ. ms implied sony doesn't support the "Full RDNA2 spec" on twitter once, but what that actually means ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ once again nerds be speculating about shit they don't understand
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on June 02, 2021, 07:13:44 PM
I think we'll probably see better implementation of DLSS once the consoles start relying on it more. It's definitely hit or miss right now on PC.

I'd like to be optimistic, but there's so many examples of games where they could've changed one slight feature and improved the IQ significantly like AFx16 instead of like AFx4 (or zero) and they still don't.

Especially Japanese developers.

Especially Japanese developers

Remember those decades of jaggy Japanese games because "Japanese developers/players don't notice aliasing"  ::)

Let's just say outside Capcom/Square Enix I'm extremely cautious about giving DLSS to Japanese developers if you can't turn it off.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on June 03, 2021, 11:19:26 AM
God of War delayed to 2022, Horizon release date "uncertain"

https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/2/22465232/god-of-war-ragnorok-ps5-ps4-delay-2022
eh, that's not promising at all for Horizon. If they're shooting for November, it's probably a spring 2022 game.  :gloomy
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 03, 2021, 11:30:05 AM
i'm expecting this year to be the driest of all time for new releases, so dry that i wouldn't be stunned if call of duty skips a year, and it will probably continue next year. I doubt anyone is willing to risk being the next cyberpunk :lol

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on June 03, 2021, 11:36:14 AM
60fps mode and real free climbing seem to be confirmed.
Now my interest is piqued.  :ohhh

https://twitter.com/dejongemathijs/status/1400463629560938501
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on June 03, 2021, 11:52:50 AM
i'm expecting this year to be the driest of all time for new releases, so dry that i wouldn't be stunned if call of duty skips a year, and it will probably continue next year. I doubt anyone is willing to risk being the next cyberpunk :lol
2021 will be 2020 Definitive Edition  :trumps
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: ZombieSupaStar on June 04, 2021, 12:53:26 AM
Thank god I stopped buying consoles and I learned to like indie pc shit. Imagine getting an n64 for $400 and getting a Super Mario World gold edition, instead of Mario 64, and then reading about “how they can’t ignore all those Super Nintendo owners1!” from some asshole on alt.talk.videogames  :yuck

The whole point of new consoles is new previously impossible games on it, not 4 years later, why even buy one until then if this is how it’s going to be  ???

The ps5 is going to be playing games designed around some crusty 2012 netbook cpu that was a piece of shit even back then  :o
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on June 04, 2021, 01:05:47 AM
Thank god I stopped buying consoles and I learned to like indie pc shit. Imagine getting an n64 for $400 and getting a Super Mario World gold edition, instead of Mario 64, and then reading about “how they can’t ignore all those Super Nintendo owners1!” from some asshole on alt.talk.videogames  :yuck

The whole point of new consoles is new previously impossible games on it, not 4 years later, why even buy one until then if this is how it’s going to be  ???

The ps5 is going to be playing games designed around some crusty 2012 netbook cpu that was a piece of shit even back then  :o

Ratchet is out in like a week.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: remy on June 04, 2021, 01:12:58 AM
The ps5 is going to be playing games designed around some crusty 2012 netbook cpu that was a piece of shit even back then  :o

the shiddy ass curse that will never be exocised
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: ZombieSupaStar on June 04, 2021, 01:27:02 AM
Thank god I stopped buying consoles and I learned to like indie pc shit. Imagine getting an n64 for $400 and getting a Super Mario World gold edition, instead of Mario 64, and then reading about “how they can’t ignore all those Super Nintendo owners1!” from some asshole on alt.talk.videogames  :yuck

The whole point of new consoles is new previously impossible games on it, not 4 years later, why even buy one until then if this is how it’s going to be  ???

The ps5 is going to be playing games designed around some crusty 2012 netbook cpu that was a piece of shit even back then  :o

Ratchet is out in like a week.

Yeah but it’s ratchet, that stuff looked uninteresting back on ps2, throw that in the trash along with jak and daxter and sly cooper imo.

New horizon game looks pretty, alloy put on that Covid 15 though it looks like (of course RE is defending it) . I tried to like the original on ps4 I just didn’t like the combat much (when you had to melee).

The ps5 is going to be playing games designed around some crusty 2012 netbook cpu that was a piece of shit even back then  :o

the shiddy ass curse that will never be exocised

If I had the PS5 I’d feel a little ripped off now with games made to run on ps4. So the ps5 is never gonna get an exclusive gran turismo? Or god of war? Here look at this awesome ssd feature set, oh wait never mind it has to run on ps4 here, squeeze through another cinematic loading crevice  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on June 04, 2021, 02:29:56 AM
The ps5 is going to be playing games designed around some crusty 2012 netbook cpu that was a piece of shit even back then  :o
It's talent and time that make great games. Breath of the Wild was designed for the god damned WiiU. :lol

Great late-gen games have always been a thing, but now we get better versions on the next generation too. Plus I'm not going to get upset about cross-gen games 12-24 months after the launch of a console, especially with longer modern dev cycles.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on June 04, 2021, 04:21:50 AM
people acting like faster gpu's/cpu's result in anything more than slightly better lighting, higher resolution and faster framerates these days. the few "exclusive" games that do come out aren't going to be anything but this, but apparently the past gen systems are "holding back innovation" lol. double your res and framerates with the same assets from last gen and theres 4x the processing time eaten up right there. this gen is all nitpicky QoL improvements. tbh, they mean a lot to me and I love that about this generation, things are going to be smooth and nice and useable, that's the generational leap.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 04, 2021, 04:27:06 AM
The biggest leap so far seems to be the switch to SSDs. And depending on the usage raytracing'd fit the bill.

Besides that, it's the same as the old gen.

Edit: Like in Resident Evil Village on the PS5, I didn't even know there were these inserts on the loading screens until I looked at one of the other versions. The PS5 version just cuts to black and then the next section is already loaded.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on June 04, 2021, 04:33:19 AM
yah, that's such a great use ability improvement. just seems like everywhere I'm reading people talking abt cross gen holding game design back, like improvements in processing power have ever really improved game design meaningfully. if anything the curse of more data capacity, better processing and graphics has made games shallower
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on June 04, 2021, 05:17:12 AM
It was them (mainly Sony & MS, but several developers mentioned it prior to the new consoles reveal) who claimed the SSD would be a bigger leap in design evolution, because so much of current design of games is around trying to mask data streaming from old HDDs.
 :yeshrug

I mean if you play something like God of War, the trickery to hide load times isn't really all the masked, when you're asked to take an elevator that moves at snail's pace, and every area is shielded from the next by constant obstructions.

I would also love to do away with the potato land design of maps, if possible.

Also tbh in general i don't see how modern games are particularly shallower than old ones.
You still have niche PC sim games out there, but it's not like a mainstream game of today is all that more shallow than one from 20 years ago? Resident Evil 2 on ps1 wasn't all that complex for example.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 04, 2021, 05:35:21 AM
I'm reading people talking abt cross gen holding game design back

I think that's mostly on the newer audience. Thankfully indies stepped in on the more experimental game design. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on June 04, 2021, 07:26:12 AM
Also tbh in general i don't see how modern games are particularly shallower than old ones.

that was a little cindi tier hyperbole on my part  :-[

though I do think games have regressed in some ways, and I don't buy the marketing guff that faster streaming and processing is going to suddenly unshackle our AAA devs from their IO limited hellscape and usher in a new era in game design. it just makes existing games a little nicer to play. more convenient.

pandering to lamestream consumer expectations is the real limiter  8)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: ZombieSupaStar on June 04, 2021, 09:08:52 AM
Depends on the hardware upgrade the 360 gen was a leap, it was up there with the faster gaming pc when it launched and had stuff like Dead Rising that was definitely a game that wouldn’t have been what it was on the original xbox, heck even stuff like red faction guerrila. But then in 2013 we got netbook cpus and everything just became graphics based utilizing more of the gpus, because anything processor intensive wasn’t going to happen.

I play pc indie shit now so it doesn’t matter much to me but I’m just waxing nostalgia of back when you brought home an n64 with Mario 64, a Dreamcast with soul calibur and sonic adventure, a ps 2 with…..uhh….. ssx or smugglers run? (lol), or a 360 with dead rising.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: tiesto on June 04, 2021, 12:55:26 PM
I think, along with obviously covid, UE5 not being ready for the beginning of this gen put a stammer on impressive graphics.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 04, 2021, 12:57:09 PM
I would argue that since the OG Xdude with Halo no system has had a really stand out exclusive release title (even Nintendo split the difference with Twilight Princess being GCN/Wii and BotW being Weeeeooooo/Switch). I clearly think less of Dead Rising than you do, it was fun but not system or genre defining or anything.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on June 04, 2021, 01:16:59 PM
Skipped the mid-gen refreshes, so I just wanted a PS5 to keep playing the enormous PS4 library except with maybe shorter load times and pro mode. Though 500 bucks is meh and the shortages I'm not going to deal with either.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 04, 2021, 02:05:46 PM
tbh if I hadn't been dealing with computer issues in April I wouldn't have bought a PS5, but I'm a graphics hoor and I will be damned if I play new games on less than their max realistic resolution (4k)

I fully intended to buy one eventually, after a year or two and maybe a $100 price drop. But given everything we may not get a drop for 3 years at best. I don't really regret it, playing GoW and Horizon in "uprezzed" 4k with much shorter load times is not a bad deal.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: ZombieSupaStar on June 04, 2021, 02:39:30 PM
I would argue that since the OG Xdude with Halo no system has had a really stand out exclusive release title (even Nintendo split the difference with Twilight Princess being GCN/Wii and BotW being Weeeeooooo/Switch). I clearly think less of Dead Rising than you do, it was fun but not system or genre defining or anything.

No no I get it (yes I’m partial to the game tho  :D) I just mean the larger mall area, all interactive store items etc, the massive zombie hordes, then when the lights flicker and go out, I was just like wow….. this couldn’t have been done on ps2. It just felt like a game I couldn’t have played before the new hardware. Squinting on my crt to read the hdtv sized ui aside   :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on June 04, 2021, 04:31:50 PM
Not to mention the beautiful reflective surfaces on 360 (sorta)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on June 04, 2021, 05:06:50 PM
I think, along with obviously covid, UE5 not being ready for the beginning of this gen put a stammer on impressive graphics.

Ehhh, I feel like everyone that makes impressive looking games uses their own engines these days. The stuff using UE tends to be lower budget or Japanese developed like KH.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on June 04, 2021, 08:14:16 PM
I'm certain the cross gen stuff is holding us back.

Back when the Xbox One and PS4 were on the horizon, the PC space made progress on physics, destructability and AI with games like FEAR, Crysis 1 + 2 and Battlefield Bad Company 2.
AC Unity, Mass Effect Andromeda, Crackdown and Destiny were very ambitious but couldn't deliver because of technical difficulties.
Ubisoft was working on complex animations and simulations for crowds and even curtains that didn't make the cut.

Once everyone found out the Xbox One and PS4 CPU's were shit the focus shifted to improve animation, graphics and shaders.
As Cyberpunk shows the last gen machines just can't do complex simulations and they had to scale everything back to a point were it barely works.
Another great example is Resident Evil Village. Enemy AI hasn't changed between Resident Evil 5 and Village and neither has the interactivity with the environment.
We're basically getting prettier Xbox 360 and PS3 games again.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on June 04, 2021, 08:22:11 PM
lmao that's not the reason cyberpunks ai is so shitty. dwarf fortress is a complex simulation
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on June 04, 2021, 09:48:13 PM
I'd argue Hitman's AI is also pretty complex.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on June 04, 2021, 10:42:37 PM
I'd argue Hitman's AI is also pretty complex.

Is it though? I mean the AI uses the same routines in reaction to the point you are supposed to plan your routes/kills around it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on June 05, 2021, 12:04:26 AM
I'd argue Hitman's AI is also pretty complex.

Is it though? I mean the AI uses the same routines in reaction to the point you are supposed to plan your routes/kills around it.
That's by design.
I think people are confused about what "good AI" means for games.
Some think a good AI is something that's as close in intelligence to a human, but actually i'd argue it's something that enriches the game's design.

This is a common argument especially in stealth games, when the "lol they're blind and so dumb" complaint gets thrown around, without realizing that a good game's AI is SUPPOSED to be dumb.
No shit a game knows you're hiding behind the box, if it doesn't see you it's because, by design, the game is letting you win.

"Real" stealth would be a miserable, unfun experience.

I see Hitman in the same way, it's a web of predictable but not obvious routines that work perfectly to maximize fun, while making the world feel alive.

Good AI is, really, the art of creating the illusion of intelligence, while maintaining a sense of fairness and progression for the player.
Nobody would want to play an FPS where the cpu can just headshot you perfectly as soon as you turn a corner.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on June 05, 2021, 06:21:07 AM
MGS2 had better AI than Hitman 3.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on June 05, 2021, 06:56:49 AM
Skipped the mid-gen refreshes, so I just wanted a PS5 to keep playing the enormous PS4 library except with maybe shorter load times and pro mode.
Same. Getting to play the Pro version of stuff plus faster loading and upgrading from an old 1080 TV to a 4K OLED have been big leap.

I wish I cared about R&C but it just isn't for me. Ghostwire in October is probably my next PS5 purchase.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on June 05, 2021, 06:57:16 AM
You can even see the shift in focus in games from the 360 era vs. the Xbox One era. Take Gears of War for example. In Gears 2 there were plenty of destructable objects. In Gears 5 everything is static.
CONTROL is another good example. It runs great on PC with decent CPU's and mid level GPU's with ray tracing disabled. It runs terrible on Xbox One / PS4 because those machines can't handle the physics.
Same with Just Cause 3.
 
Sticking with these CPU's means you can't make open worlds more dense, do more with physics and destruction, increase player counts in multiplayer games or introduce more complex AI routines.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on June 05, 2021, 10:31:05 AM
MGS2 had better AI than Hitman 3.
MGS2 had an amazing AI (in general, but especially for the time) so i don't have an issue with that.
I didn't say Hitman had the best AI ever coded, anyway.
Just that an AI has to serve the design, and so what is and isn't good AI varies from the needs of the game.

The web of intricacies, in parallel with the need to respect schedules and being predictable, but also being able to react to emergent events, make the Hitman AI pretty complex and interesting in my opinion, but i see it as an ant farm, more than any individual npc's brain.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tuckers Law on June 05, 2021, 05:05:17 PM
Nobody would want to play an FPS where the cpu can just headshot you perfectly as soon as you turn a corner.

Suddenly I’m having flashbacks of turning corners in Perfect Dark and watching the bots on perfect difficulty instantaneously torso twist in my direction for the insta-kill.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on June 05, 2021, 08:09:53 PM
nevermind. frame timing sucks on my TV outside game mode. hadn't switched it back since watching a movie  :doge

kinda fucked how it seems like it was actually dropping frames. so bad. smooth af now tho :whew
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on June 07, 2021, 11:41:36 AM
Just saw this  :lol :lol :lol
 :aloy

Never realized how much I'm looking forward to the PC version of H2 so someone will mod in uber thicc Aloy.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on June 07, 2021, 12:54:28 PM
I specifically remember chuds bitching about Aloy's looks after e3 2016 gameplay and at release. Basically that she looked too "plain" and unattractive. Now they're complaining about weight. She really doesn't look much different from the first game in Forbidden West.  :lol

incels upset that their vidya gurls don't look like porn stars and shit jfc
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on June 07, 2021, 06:07:00 PM
I specifically remember chuds bitching about Aloy's looks after e3 2016 gameplay and at release. Basically that she looked too "plain" and unattractive. Now they're complaining about weight. She really doesn't look much different from the first game in Forbidden West.  :lol

incels upset that their vidya gurls don't look like porn stars and shit jfc

PC modders are on the case!

https://www.nexusmods.com/horizonzerodawn/mods/32
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Reshape and retexture of Aloy's face
(https://staticdelivery.nexusmods.com/mods/3381/images/32/32-1602225208-1583253639.png)

https://www.nexusmods.com/horizonzerodawn/mods/51
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Gives Aloy a casual outfit with a tank top, jeans and shoes

(https://staticdelivery.nexusmods.com/mods/3381/images/51/51-1612905722-38712684.png)
(https://staticdelivery.nexusmods.com/mods/3381/images/51/51-1612905727-1354319844.png)

 :nsfw
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://i.imgur.com/S383YKd.jpeg)
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:aloy
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on June 07, 2021, 08:07:02 PM
Speaking of outfits, every 3rd person game needs a wide selection of outfits to wear including casual clothes like that jeans & tanktop.

Like I'm playing Judgment PS5 and you get outfits/disguises to sneak into areas and there's an entire outfits tab on the menu but it specifically says YOU CAN'T USE THESE OUTSIDE THEIR STORY PARTS 

:mindblown

Like wtf, not only do you actually go the extra length to make outfits but you don't let players just use them whenever. I'm guessing it's because some of the cutscenes are pre-rendered and they don't want it to look weird when the outfit changes, but fuck it, still make it available as a choice. I don't even like the main dude's regular jeans + leather jacket outfit.

This is why I like games like Saint's Row and GTA. Fashion is fun.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on June 08, 2021, 12:49:42 AM
Yeah I wish Judgment had gone crazy with the outfits.

I liked the idea of this wandering homeless martial arts badass just beating the shit out of thugs on the street. If they would have let me look like a hobo the entire game, I totally would have.  :'(
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 08, 2021, 01:43:07 AM
The Nomura fan in me likes his default outfit.

Is the PS5 version good? Do the saves transfer?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on June 08, 2021, 01:55:13 AM
Speaking of outfits, every 3rd person game needs a wide selection of outfits to wear including casual clothes like that jeans & tanktop.

Like I'm playing Judgment PS5 and you get outfits/disguises to sneak into areas and there's an entire outfits tab on the menu but it specifically says YOU CAN'T USE THESE OUTSIDE THEIR STORY PARTS 

:mindblown

Like wtf, not only do you actually go the extra length to make outfits but you don't let players just use them whenever. I'm guessing it's because some of the cutscenes are pre-rendered and they don't want it to look weird when the outfit changes, but fuck it, still make it available as a choice. I don't even like the main dude's regular jeans + leather jacket outfit.

This is why I like games like Saint's Row and GTA. Fashion is fun.
People don't want to admit that playing games (in 3rd person) is a bit like playing with dolls/action figures.  :doge
I agree with you tho.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on June 08, 2021, 07:23:48 AM
Character fashion/cosmetics is absolutely crucial for a 3rd person game.  And I still believe no one has done it as well as Dragon's Dogma, where you can mix/match/combine clothes with armor pieces.  :delicious (if there's another game that does that, let me know!)  No words can describe my yearning for that to be built upon in DD2.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mr. Nobody on June 08, 2021, 09:17:55 AM
I specifically remember chuds bitching about Aloy's looks after e3 2016 gameplay and at release. Basically that she looked too "plain" and unattractive. Now they're complaining about weight. She really doesn't look much different from the first game in Forbidden West.  :lol

incels upset that their vidya gurls don't look like porn stars and shit jfc

PC modders are on the case!

https://www.nexusmods.com/horizonzerodawn/mods/32
Quote
Reshape and retexture of Aloy's face
(https://staticdelivery.nexusmods.com/mods/3381/images/32/32-1602225208-1583253639.png)

https://www.nexusmods.com/horizonzerodawn/mods/51
Quote
Gives Aloy a casual outfit with a tank top, jeans and shoes

(https://staticdelivery.nexusmods.com/mods/3381/images/51/51-1612905722-38712684.png)
(https://staticdelivery.nexusmods.com/mods/3381/images/51/51-1612905727-1354319844.png)

 :nsfw
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://i.imgur.com/S383YKd.jpeg)
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:aloy

Aloy a cute. CUTE!  :heart

Considerably less salty about still not being able to get a PS5 now that the big guns are cross gen and delayed. I imagine that won't change until the chip/stock shortages are settled.

No fucking way is a R&C game worth $70, I don't care how pretty it is.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 08, 2021, 09:42:23 AM
https://twitter.com/NilOggier/status/1401605160951025669
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 08, 2021, 10:50:33 AM
Play has some limits.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: ZombieSupaStar on June 08, 2021, 11:44:30 AM
Enjoying Horizon zero dawn on pc now, Aloy looks fine in this version. The new game has a few shots that have that “oh god i accidentally turned on my front facing camera” type perspective. Or who knows maybe she found an ancient Krispy Kreme’s cache encased in amber.
 :preach
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on June 08, 2021, 01:37:50 PM
Nice PS4 version of Ratchet, cant wait for that to be announced too
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on June 08, 2021, 02:55:19 PM
Who's got time for R&C when FFVIIR Intergrade comes out the day before.   :rejoice
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/c1bfb86d228819d811936367e4996384/946fbcc1ba8c0bc7-52/s500x750/160aee0da56b9bb4a66e4deabf16a5756ba2e4c4.gif)
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Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on June 08, 2021, 03:13:12 PM
Been more than year, and still no mention of the PC port.  :-\
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 08, 2021, 03:19:33 PM
Character fashion/cosmetics is absolutely crucial for a 3rd person game.  And I still believe no one has done it as well as Dragon's Dogma, where you can mix/match/combine clothes with armor pieces.  :delicious (if there's another game that does that, let me know!)  No words can describe my yearning for that to be built upon in DD2.

Pretty much any ARPG (Diablo, Path of Exile, Grim Dawn) has that to one extent or another and it's a HUGE part of PoE to the extent that cosmetic microtransactions are how the game makes money.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on June 08, 2021, 03:56:00 PM
Character fashion/cosmetics is absolutely crucial for a 3rd person game.  And I still believe no one has done it as well as Dragon's Dogma, where you can mix/match/combine clothes with armor pieces.  :delicious (if there's another game that does that, let me know!)  No words can describe my yearning for that to be built upon in DD2.

Pretty much any ARPG (Diablo, Path of Exile, Grim Dawn) has that to one extent or another and it's a HUGE part of PoE to the extent that cosmetic microtransactions are how the game makes money.
Oh Word . I have PoE, but haven't tried it yet.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on June 08, 2021, 10:46:06 PM
Who's got time for R&C when FFVIIR Intergrade comes out the day before.   :rejoice
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/c1bfb86d228819d811936367e4996384/946fbcc1ba8c0bc7-52/s500x750/160aee0da56b9bb4a66e4deabf16a5756ba2e4c4.gif)
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r&c sounds damn good, but yah, i need this yuff dlc
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on June 08, 2021, 10:50:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xtJYpwvHjY
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on June 08, 2021, 10:54:22 PM
graphically the final game is a "genuine upgrade over the pre-release trailers" says john
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on June 08, 2021, 11:58:44 PM
Looks really nice, and i'm happy for the two 60fps modes (as a growing standard i mean, i don't care about R&C as a franchise).

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on June 09, 2021, 12:13:51 AM
neither, but i've only played crack in time, and tbh i remember it fondly. will pick this up down the line for sure
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: archnemesis on June 09, 2021, 02:29:00 AM
I'll pick up Ratchet as soon as I'm done playing Final Fantasy VII Remake. I really enjoyed all the PS3/PS4 games in the series. The PSP games weren't as fun.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 09, 2021, 11:02:38 AM
Ratchet & Wank will probably be on PS+ within 6 months.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 09, 2021, 11:13:42 AM
do insomniac crank these out for next to nothing or something ala dynasty warriors? :doge

its surely not a hot enough franchise to warrant 12 games in 20 years plus spins offs

i don't think i've ever even seen so much as a trailer of any of them :anhuld
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on June 09, 2021, 12:57:18 PM
Ratchet looks great but it will also create a new generation of furries  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 09, 2021, 01:29:57 PM
Ratchet looks great but it will also create a new generation of furries  :doge

Much like QAnon/Republicans in America, there is no real cure for furries. They're just going to keep happening in increasing numbers until our stupid excuse for a society collapses under the weight of their fursuits.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 09, 2021, 01:41:59 PM
imagine how red ratchets cock must be
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on June 09, 2021, 03:04:21 PM
Pogged by a rivet, not his cock that is red  :nepenthe
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on June 09, 2021, 03:14:17 PM
Just watched the ending for FF7 DLC, saved myself $600
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 09, 2021, 03:52:42 PM
FFVII DLC and Ratchet. Gonna be a good weekend.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tuckers Law on June 09, 2021, 07:16:30 PM
Just watched the ending for FF7 DLC, saved myself $600

Plus the storage unit costs to house a PS5.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on June 11, 2021, 08:14:12 AM
Star War Fallen Order update is coming today.  May consider revisiting, as the base PS4 one I played was ass-tastic.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 11, 2021, 08:48:16 AM
Hasn't the PS5 update been out for months? Guess this is an actual next-gen patch.

Xbox Series X ran it at 60fps.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on June 11, 2021, 05:21:15 PM
Kena looks pretty nice. Surprised this is a $40 game.   :obama

https://youtu.be/rfZZ8tas9BA

Coming to PC via EGS too.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on June 11, 2021, 11:46:30 PM
Ratchet looks fucking insane on the 30fps mode.

Can Naughty Dog go back to Uncharted? Please. Linear level-based AAA stuff going to look insane this generation.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on June 11, 2021, 11:53:58 PM
Also God of War 2 PS5 is gonna look so trash compared to Ratchet. Not only cross-gen, but the whole open-world fields/world style.
For Dad of War 3 they should just go back to being a linear set piece game on PS5 only to blow everyone away visually.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 12, 2021, 04:31:07 AM
They'd have to overhaul their entire new gameplay system again for that to work. If anything the new style was already lineair setpiece shit, only now it's the "mature" cutscenes you get funneled into instead of the spectacle fighting cutscenes of the old games.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on July 01, 2021, 07:17:26 PM
May have to revisit this now..

https://youtu.be/A5gVt028Hww
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on July 01, 2021, 07:21:13 PM
JP lip-synch is a really nice addition.

I still haven't played Ghost beyond the intro but the lip-synch making it feel like watching a dub but in reverse was a bit jarring. Will finally get to the game after this version launches.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 01, 2021, 07:34:19 PM
I kinda feel like anything that came out on the PS4 in the last 2 years of its life is gonna get a $70 money grab edition
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on July 01, 2021, 08:47:08 PM
Another reason why it's good to be a slow ass to getting to your backlog.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on July 01, 2021, 08:54:22 PM
Yeah, I've been wanting to play A Plagues Tale for awhile now, and now the PS5 version will be free on PS+ next week.  Glad I've held off.  Now where the hell is BB whatever PS5 edition.  :-\
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on July 01, 2021, 09:22:08 PM
can't believe they're making all these money grab editions we're going to pay for  :brazilcry
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: archnemesis on July 02, 2021, 02:51:16 AM
I never got around to play either Ghosts of Tsushima or A Plague Tale. I'll happily play these, especially if I can get them for "free" from PS+.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on July 02, 2021, 05:54:45 AM
Plague Tale has really pedestrian (and boring, tbh) gameplay, and an alright story, but the visuals are mostly great and an amazing soundtrack.
I wish they required some effort with the puzzles, it could've been a really cool game.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Akala on July 02, 2021, 07:25:00 AM
a plague tale rocks (aside from one courtyard puzzle).

played on gamepass and was one of the fave things I played last (?) year.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 02, 2021, 01:44:31 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/44IY0Q1.png)

It do be facts tho
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mr. Nobody on July 02, 2021, 01:47:19 PM
I would complain about GoT's PS5 upgrade being $30 but by the time I'm able to get a PS5, it'll be free on PS+ again  :goty
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on July 02, 2021, 02:17:45 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/44IY0Q1.png)

It do be facts tho

Good enough for me, I even held off some of my PS4 backlog, but then you couldn't get one  :paul
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 02, 2021, 02:30:22 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/44IY0Q1.png)

It do be facts tho

Good enough for me, I even held off some of my PS4 backlog, but then you couldn't get one  :paul

I bought God of War on sale for like $10 and didn't play it until I got a PS5, and honestly $:game ratio that's the best money I've ever spent. Other games I bought on PS4 and never finished that I will play now and also have PS5 upgrades: Horizon, Jedi Fallen Order, and Final Fantasy XV. I'm also fine with it, but it's just kind of funny to me that there's nothing exclusive to PS5 yet that I feel like I *have* to play. (I'll eventually get both Returnal and Ratchet but not spending $70, I'm cheap)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on July 02, 2021, 02:54:31 PM
I would complain about GoT's PS5 upgrade being $30 but by the time I'm able to get a PS5, it'll be free on PS+ again  :goty

I mean it's $20-$30 for the new expansion. Not like they're charging just for PS5 upgrades.

Would be more similar to if FF7r PS5 charged $30 to upgrade but came with the Yuffie episode.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on July 03, 2021, 01:31:20 PM
I'd be pretty scummy if not for

1) they already offered a 60 fps patch for the PS4 version on PS5. No one is locked to buying the more expensive PS5 version.
2) a free and beefy multiplayer mode released after launch.

I hope we get improved textures for the PS5 version too but otherwise I'm fine spending $30 for the expansion.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on July 03, 2021, 03:48:26 PM
I won't call GoT DC scammy, but from the trailer, that new island's content really looks like a lot of the same stuff from the main game with minimal changes.
Hope i'm wrong because i had fun with the game and i wouldn't mind new stuff.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on July 03, 2021, 04:48:51 PM
I won't call GoT DC scammy, but from the trailer, that new island's content really looks like a lot of the same stuff from the main game with minimal changes.
Hope i'm wrong because i had fun with the game and i wouldn't mind new stuff.

I mean it's an ubisoft-like expansion. Expecting anything more than more of the same with a new location seems unrealistically optimistic.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on July 03, 2021, 05:20:08 PM
AC expansions usually introduce crazy super natural stuff? This doesn't seem to do that, but maybe i'm wrong.
But yeah, i wasn't expecting Blood & Wine.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on July 05, 2021, 01:28:37 PM
I finally was able to order one of these!

Got a bundle from GameStop which came with Ratchet, MLB, an extra controller, and a $40 gift card. They were having a b2g1 on preowned games so I used the gift card to get tlou2, ff7, and sotc remake. I also grabbed miles morales ultimate edition for $20 today and will be grabbing hzd, wipeout, and persona 5 royale off the psn store.

I had a ps4, but checked out midway through the generation since I got a pc and was tired of the ps4 sounding like an airplane. Looking forward to playing all the exclusives I missed which should last me a while!
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on July 05, 2021, 02:27:01 PM
Just sign up for PS+, you get a bunch of PS4 games for "free". Including P5.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on July 05, 2021, 03:07:19 PM
Going to skip out on plus for now since I don’t play multiplayer stuff and the only game in that instant collection that I don’t own on ps4/pc that I want is days gone which I can just buy on it’s own.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on July 06, 2021, 11:01:08 AM
https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1412411083361509385

Zero interest in Deathloop but hopefully we get some more neat stuff. It's weird they didn't save Ghost of Tsushima news but I guess that did leak early
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on July 06, 2021, 11:10:23 AM
Same here about Deathloop... Could care less.  This State of Play sounds fairly uninteresting.   Guess I'm curious about whatever 3rd party stuffz maybe.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on July 06, 2021, 11:30:34 AM
Happy if they show Little Devil Inside.
backed that KS what feels like 20 years ago, now.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on July 06, 2021, 11:56:53 AM
Happy if they show Little Devil Inside.
backed that KS what feels like 20 years ago, now.
Oh snap, I totally forgot about that game.  :lol  Yeah, it looked super interesting. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on July 06, 2021, 12:20:20 PM
Same here about Deathloop... Could care less.  This State of Play sounds fairly uninteresting.   Guess I'm curious about whatever 3rd party stuffz maybe.

Sony saw the Switch Pro announcement and realized they could hold off on the big guns for another 6 months.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on July 06, 2021, 01:17:19 PM
https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1412411083361509385

Zero interest in Deathloop but hopefully we get some more neat stuff. It's weird they didn't save Ghost of Tsushima news but I guess that did leak early

:snore
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on July 06, 2021, 04:29:17 PM
wouldn't be surprised if deathloop ends up being very good. I like arkane
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 08, 2021, 05:25:13 PM
Gamestop has some PS5 shit on sale, gonna grab Nioh Collection for $40

https://www.gamestop.com/video-games/playstation-5/new?q=pssummer21&view=new&tileView=list
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on July 08, 2021, 05:53:33 PM
Yep, Deathloop was extremely uninteresting to me. 

Death Stranding DC makes me want to play it again.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on July 08, 2021, 06:11:24 PM
Death Loop looks like an Arkane game, so if you like Dishonored, it looks like that (but without the cool setting).

I liked the new stuff in DS, JETT and FIST.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on July 08, 2021, 08:29:29 PM
i really like the neo noir setting, and Dishonored's gameplay is ideal for fine tuning speed runs, learning different routes, perfecting that series of kills. the invasion mechanic might give it a little more longevity adding a competitive aspect. fresh concept that also appears very well executed  :yeshrug
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on July 08, 2021, 11:39:30 PM
Dishonored is really good. So Deathloop is either Day 1 or $5 for me depending on how rogue it is at launch. Will read up reviews on the mechanics and how much carries over and if you can beat it over time even if you suck like a rogue-like rather than a game you may never clear rogue.

I feel like it might not be that hard because it's going for mainstream appeal compared to something like Returnal which was going for that Nex Machina x Hades hardcore indie crowd.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on July 09, 2021, 01:24:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sHd62brMtc
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on July 09, 2021, 01:41:34 AM
Glad it's just minor stuff. Game is too long to be replayable.

Will be nice for people who are playing it for the first time though! And the game probably won't need a remaster for a long, long time between the PC version and PS5 version. Should hold up pretty well for a decade or two.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on July 09, 2021, 03:50:47 AM
$10 is very reasonable, I'll check it out.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Beezy on July 22, 2021, 10:07:32 AM
https://twitter.com/verge/status/1418209860366176263
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 22, 2021, 11:50:39 AM
https://twitter.com/verge/status/1418209860366176263

When I try to download the apple tv app, it just says "this app is only playable on PS4"

GOOD JORB EVERYONE
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Sho Nuff on July 23, 2021, 12:05:00 AM
If you think that's fucked you should try using Disney+ in Japan
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on July 29, 2021, 10:34:51 AM
https://www.gematsu.com/2021/07/ps5-system-software-beta-version-2-0-04-00-00-rolling-out-adds-m-2-ssd-support

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You can now insert an M.2 SSD to your PS5’s expansion slot and use M.2 SSD storage. Just like your PS5’s console storage, you can install PS5 and PS4 games in M2 SSD storage and play them directly from there.

You can use PCle 4.0 M.2 SSDS with a capacity of 250 GB minimum and 4 TB maximum.

To safely insert or remove your M.2 SSD, make sure your PS5 is turned off and that the AC power cord is unplugged.

To use M.2 SSD storage, insert your M2 SSD in your PS5’s expansion slot while your PS5 is turned off. When you turn on your PS5, you’ll format your M.2 SSD so that it’s ready to use.

To move a PS5 or PS4 game that’s installed in console storage or USB extended storage to M2 SSD storage, go to your game library, press the options button and then select [Move Games and Apps]. Then select the game you want to move, and then select
.
Edit:

https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2021/7/29/22599593/sony-ps5-m2-ssd-support-beta-features

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You may need to consider the cooling requirements for using an M.2 SSD in a PS5, though. “Using an M.2 SSD with your PS5 console requires effective heat dissipation with a cooling structure, such as a heatsink,” explains Sony. “You can attach one to your M.2 SSD yourself, either in a single-sided format, or double-sided format.”

:lucas
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on July 29, 2021, 11:15:17 AM
That's a helluva an update. :leon  Actually surprised they're addressing the storage issue already.  Gonna hang back and see what M.2 SSD gets best results over time.  Not hurting for storage currently.   Wonder what with all the Library updates, but still no folders?   :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on July 29, 2021, 01:58:55 PM
.
:steel
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on July 29, 2021, 03:36:46 PM
All I care about are Folders & VRR support. I have an external SSD hooked up via USB and even if I can't play games off it at least being able to store stuff so I don't have to redownload it and play PS4 titles directly off it is good enough for me.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on July 29, 2021, 04:21:29 PM
I have the new sn850 western digital black drive on order for a pc I'm building, but a friend just said he can get Samsung 980 evo pro's on sale as well though a partner deal w his office. afaik these are the only two nvme drives worth considering rn. might keep the black order and grab a pro 1tb also....
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on July 29, 2021, 04:35:15 PM
In real world testing the sn850 comes out slightly on top but more or less the same as the 980 Pro and the new seagate firecuda and Kingston drives also seem pretty good. Personally like WD black as they're known for reliability, great testing, standard for the film industry.

https://thepcenthusiast.com/review-samsung-980-pro-2tb-vs-wd-black-sn850-2tb/
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on July 30, 2021, 03:10:41 PM
https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1421163370061910032
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 30, 2021, 03:11:55 PM
:titus
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on July 30, 2021, 03:21:32 PM
Does it release before or after the Switch Pro?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on July 30, 2021, 03:37:06 PM
Sony ain't got shit for the Holiday..... Just like Ninteder and MS.  :lol   That's ok with me though... as long as Cyberpunk PS5 upgrade is still on schedule (lol), that'll tie me over till Elden Ring in Jan.  Plus my backlog is distinguished mentally-challenged big.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on July 31, 2021, 08:57:42 AM
2022 is gonna be a banger
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on July 31, 2021, 09:20:47 AM
2022 is gonna be a banger
at this rate i'm expecting a Nuclear Holocaust.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on July 31, 2021, 10:38:46 AM
2022 is gonna be a banger

That’s what we said about 2021 last year  :goty
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on July 31, 2021, 12:06:16 PM
people have been saying that every year i've been on gaming forums. and then half gets delayed, and half of what is left turns out to be a bit shit
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on July 31, 2021, 02:12:46 PM
2024 :lawd
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on July 31, 2021, 02:43:21 PM
people have been saying that every year i've been on gaming forums. and then half gets delayed, and half of what is left turns out to be a bit shit
FWIW, i'm not at all hyped for God of War or Horizon in the first place.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on July 31, 2021, 05:46:57 PM
That’s what we said about 2021 last year  :goty
tbf it was well on it's way before Covid fucked everything up.

2022 might be 2017 redux  :drool I just hope Nintendo and Sony can spread out Zelda and Horizon by more than a few days this time.  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on July 31, 2021, 06:00:53 PM
That’s what we said about 2021 last year  :goty
tbf it was well on it's way before Covid fucked everything up.

2022 might be 2017 redux  :drool I just hope Nintendo and Sony can spread out Zelda and Horizon by more than a few days this time.  :lol
Plus Nier Automata around then too... That shit was nuts with choice nug games dropping.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on August 01, 2021, 03:12:16 AM
https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1421163370061910032


I like how Grubb's a "rumour" that is "confirmed" by Schreieieiieier's anonymous source :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on August 01, 2021, 07:27:06 AM
There's just too many games coming in 2022: KOFXV, Elden Ring, Gotham Knights, Horizon 2, Splatoon 3, Pokemon Legends, Dragon Age, Starfield, Metroid Prime 4, God of War...
Some of it will get delayed or you're looking at 1998 + 2007 + 2013 + 2017. Between PC/Xbox/PS5 there's about 50+ big releases scheduled, up to 80+ if you count the annual sports games and indies and projects rumored for a 2022 release (like the new Bioshock).
Plus a ton of DLC for games released this year and last year like Assassins Creed Valhalla.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 01, 2021, 07:43:46 AM
I'm mentally adding on 6 months to a year to any release date anyway, aside from annual sports titles :trumps

Activision haven't even announced a new COD afaik :titus
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on August 01, 2021, 12:25:40 PM
Plus Nier Automata around then too... That shit was nuts with choice nug games dropping.
And Persona 5 in April. It was a bonkers 4 months to start the year.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 01, 2021, 03:48:00 PM
I would bet lots of American dollars on MP4, Starfield, Dragon Age, and probably God of War all being delayed.

Locks from that list for 2022 imo are: Elden Ring, Horizon Forbidden West, probably Splatoon 3. I guess Pokemon Legends but I don't pay attention to Pokemon games because I am not a child, literally or at heart, so I don't fucking care. I'm fully aware plenty do but it's just not my bag.

I would also be surprised if BotW2 releases next year, but with Nintendo you really just never fucking know.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on August 01, 2021, 04:07:00 PM
unfortunately pokemon legends looks like ass, but I'm definitely keen on a pokemon arpg
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on August 01, 2021, 06:30:32 PM
Quote
I would bet lots of American dollars on MP4, Starfield, Dragon Age, and probably God of War all being delayed.
Something like Starfield would boost GamePass. I think we will see a lot of games launch in the first 6 months of 2022 and depending on how those perform the publishers will either open the flood gates or spread them out well into 2023.
Overall Nintendo has ample room to drop all their games througout the year. More interesting is if long delayed or early announced titles like Bayo 3, Ghostwire Tokyo and Pragmata surface.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on August 01, 2021, 06:50:02 PM
I have the new sn850 western digital black drive on order for a pc I'm building, but a friend just said he can get Samsung 980 evo pro's on sale as well though a partner deal w his office. afaik these are the only two nvme drives worth considering rn. might keep the black order and grab a pro 1tb also....

Confirmed

https://twitter.com/cerny/status/1421686135936348161
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: tiesto on August 01, 2021, 07:41:11 PM
2022 is gonna be a banger

The big one for me is Trails from Zero... then 2023 it'll be Azure, Nayuta, and Reverie... '23 is gonna be an amazing year as a Falcom fan. Hopefully we'll also get news of the long-overdue Ys 5 remake too during that time.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 01, 2021, 08:29:13 PM
Quote
I would bet lots of American dollars on MP4, Starfield, Dragon Age, and probably God of War all being delayed.
Something like Starfield would boost GamePass. I think we will see a lot of games launch in the first 6 months of 2022 and depending on how those perform the publishers will either open the flood gates or spread them out well into 2023.
Overall Nintendo has ample room to drop all their games througout the year. More interesting is if long delayed or early announced titles like Bayo 3, Ghostwire Tokyo and Pragmata surface.

Starfield is a Bethesda game with no gameplay footage ready to be shown at E3 this year. We know fuck all about it aside from that it exists and supposedly it will be released next November. Of all those 4 games, I would bet the most that it will be delayed.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on August 01, 2021, 11:27:07 PM
I have the new sn850 western digital black drive on order for a pc I'm building, but a friend just said he can get Samsung 980 evo pro's on sale as well though a partner deal w his office. afaik these are the only two nvme drives worth considering rn. might keep the black order and grab a pro 1tb also....

Confirmed

https://twitter.com/cerny/status/1421686135936348161

lol, i can't imagine that heatsink being necessary for regular gaming, but we'll see i guess i think sony are just covering their bases mentioning the heatsink shit. pretty hard to overheat an ssd unless you're video editing or something else that puts it under sustained continuous load (gaming is more random r/w speed matters/short burts of speed streaming in data etc).

i would also be surprised if there was any in game/noticeable difference between any of the gen4 ssd's currently available. longevity is another story but in terms of performance buy whatever
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on August 01, 2021, 11:35:45 PM
very funny sony took sooooo long to support this and still haven't got a playstation branded drive to launch with it for consumers not au fait with buying pc parts, or at least an official portal linking to drives like "buy these"
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 02, 2021, 02:50:01 AM
I mean it's just like the PS4.

PS4 took forever to support expanded storage. Is there an official portal to what the PS4 supports? Is there anything official beyond some Segate HDDs that are blue and have the logo for $10 more?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on August 02, 2021, 06:30:38 PM
also quite a janky solution. m$ once again showing them how it's done. sure, the peak r/w bandwidth is a little lower, but they sustain similar speeds after the initial peak, random r/w seems p similar or maybe even better and the drives are easily hot swappable using a great connector (same connection RED use for their production cameras)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on August 03, 2021, 03:05:13 AM
But MS requires you to use proprietary format, no?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: chronovore on August 03, 2021, 10:57:34 AM
I mean it's just like the PS4.

PS4 took forever to support expanded storage. Is there an official portal to what the PS4 supports? Is there anything official beyond some Segate HDDs that are blue and have the logo for $10 more?

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/support/hardware/ps4-upgrade-hdd/

You can use any hard disk of the correct form factor, doesn’t need to be Sony. The Sony website only fails to make a differentiation between what type of system download you need to get it working. Otherwise, if you have a great reading comprehension, the whole thing is really simple.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on August 03, 2021, 05:29:52 PM
But MS requires you to use proprietary format, no?

not sure what you mean? i assume it uses their proprietary ntfs format like windows yeah
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on August 03, 2021, 05:41:04 PM
all im saying is m$ nailed it with an easily hot swappable solution akin to a modern memory card whereas sony have gone with an nvme slot they expect you to buy an off the shelf gen4 nvme drive with a heatsink for but have no guidance/transparency on what drives they've tested, what heatsinks are appropriate etc. confusing for consoomer.

it's only in beta anyway, im sure they'll come out with more info it's just a bit of a clusterfuck imo
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on August 03, 2021, 06:29:45 PM
From a Pushsquare article

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The most important thing is whether your heatsink will fit. It can't exceed 110 x 25 x 11.25 millimetres in size, and must not take up more than 2 millimetres beneath the SSD and 8 millimetres above it.

No mention of any of this anywhere via official Sony channels -_- the only gen4 nvme drive available here (corsair mp600) with a heatsink pre-installed would not fit this.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on August 04, 2021, 02:02:55 AM
But MS requires you to use proprietary format, no?

not sure what you mean? i assume it uses their proprietary ntfs format like windows yeah

He meant there's only the one proprietary drive option from MS, can't use anything "off the shelf".
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on August 04, 2021, 12:39:40 PM
From a Pushsquare article

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The most important thing is whether your heatsink will fit. It can't exceed 110 x 25 x 11.25 millimetres in size, and must not take up more than 2 millimetres beneath the SSD and 8 millimetres above it.

No mention of any of this anywhere via official Sony channels -_- the only gen4 nvme drive available here (corsair mp600) with a heatsink pre-installed would not fit this.
Can't you order an Aorus Gen4 SSD? I have one of those without a heatsink because my board had slots with built-in heatsinks.
A number of brands have models both with and without heatsinks.

Plus in most cases the heatsinks are detachable to accomodate for the high-end boards. Same with the MP600.
Quote
The heatsink on the MP600 has been well designed so it can be easily detached so that the drive can make use of a motherboard’s own M.2 cooling system if it has one fitted or if space is at a premium. To remove the heatsink is just a matter of releasing the four clips that hold the heatsink to the backing cradle.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 04, 2021, 12:52:21 PM
Man, I can't wait to drop a 2TB drive in this thing for all these new PS5 games I want to play.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 04, 2021, 03:41:34 PM
I mean it's just like the PS4.

PS4 took forever to support expanded storage. Is there an official portal to what the PS4 supports? Is there anything official beyond some Segate HDDs that are blue and have the logo for $10 more?

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/support/hardware/ps4-upgrade-hdd/

You can use any hard disk of the correct form factor, doesn’t need to be Sony. The
If website only fails to make a differentiation between what type of system download you need to get it working. Otherwise, if you have a great reading comprehension, the whole thing is really simple.
I was mistaken then and yeah adding storage on the PS5 seems more annoying.

A shame as I like having everything installed. Hopefully as things mature the prices and ease becomes easier.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on August 04, 2021, 05:45:52 PM
From a Pushsquare article

Quote
The most important thing is whether your heatsink will fit. It can't exceed 110 x 25 x 11.25 millimetres in size, and must not take up more than 2 millimetres beneath the SSD and 8 millimetres above it.

No mention of any of this anywhere via official Sony channels -_- the only gen4 nvme drive available here (corsair mp600) with a heatsink pre-installed would not fit this.
Can't you order an Aorus Gen4 SSD? I have one of those without a heatsink because my board had slots with built-in heatsinks.
A number of brands have models both with and without heatsinks.

Plus in most cases the heatsinks are detachable to accomodate for the high-end boards. Same with the MP600.
Quote
The heatsink on the MP600 has been well designed so it can be easily detached so that the drive can make use of a motherboard’s own M.2 cooling system if it has one fitted or if space is at a premium. To remove the heatsink is just a matter of releasing the four clips that hold the heatsink to the backing cradle.

sony are saying you need a heatsink, but not saying anything about the specs for said heatsink. yes i can easily buy a separate gen4 nvme drive and heatsink, i am used to buying pc components (though i would have to ask a clerk to measure the heatsink or do it myself in store lol). also the aorus gen4 drive doesn't meet sony specs (only 5GB read, sub 5 write) and is already notorious for failures (though it would probably be fine)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 04, 2021, 06:15:53 PM
It's funny to me watching people freak out about this shit but then I remember that so few of you console only dirt people have ever built a computer.

:snob
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on August 04, 2021, 06:51:35 PM
lol, i build pc's. this is just shitty product delivery imho

seen this meme a bunch among the discourse on twitter

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7pX_ycXIAEtFIi?format=jpg&name=large)

extra funny given sony are saying installing a naked nvme drive will likely result in it thermally throttling. lots of people are clearly confused.

i have an sn850 at home and a 980 pro on the way. will test this shid at some point once i find a compatible heatsink :p
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on August 04, 2021, 07:36:35 PM
https://twitter.com/fitzymj/status/1420825603784122371
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 04, 2021, 07:41:47 PM
In roughly 2 years when enough new PS5 games I want to own are out, I'll buy a NVMe drive for it. At that point I'm sure any issues will have been at least noticed, probably not fixed tho lol.

tbh I'm way more curious about how easy it will be to stick a larger drive in a Steam Deck and if it will void any warranty the thing ships with.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on August 04, 2021, 07:55:41 PM
im so keen for a couple extra tb's, my drive is stacked and im always shuffling things. obviously the majority of my library is ps4 content, but i also don't like deleting content i installed from disc like demon's souls and FFVIIr seemed to take around half an hour to install but maybe that was also just me being extremely impatient. i don't play either game much any more, but every few weeks i will jump back in and play a few hours of a new char or ng+ in demon's souls or some VIIr hard mode. from those ive read that have been testing this, it is pretty stable and not causing rest mode bugs and stuff like the external drives were
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on August 04, 2021, 08:37:12 PM
more testing https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/4/22608153/ps5-ssd-speed-test-storage-expansion-m2-playstation-5

just sequential read/initial load times but still kinda interesting vs the actual in game random read times for in game loading where i would assume nearly all gen4 drives are relatively equal (though wd black, samsung and seagate firecuda drives all clearly come out on top in pc testing)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 05, 2021, 02:45:27 AM
It's funny to me watching people freak out about this shit but then I remember that so few of you console only dirt people have ever built a computer.

:snob
It's not that I think it's hard. I had to put a nvme and other ssds into my computer. I do think it should be plug in go because it's a console, but I also think it should be painless to know what to buy.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on August 05, 2021, 05:25:17 AM
(https://i.imgflip.com/5inhh6.jpg)

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: who is ted danson? on August 05, 2021, 08:06:18 AM
This is what happens when you turn everything into a touchscreen app.

Bring back the good old days of screwdrivers, soldering irons, and queueing for patches on GamersHell.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: who is ted danson? on August 05, 2021, 08:07:08 AM
Make 'em flash the bios when the install a new SSD. That'll teach 'em.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on August 05, 2021, 01:30:13 PM
Yeah, I modded all my old systems for region-free through like PS2/Dreamcast. My favorite mods were where you had an actual switch installed in the back to switch between regions. My Saturn has that.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on August 05, 2021, 03:00:57 PM
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-best-ssds-for-ps5
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 07, 2021, 02:07:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qr4JDYjj-g
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mupepe on August 08, 2021, 12:29:24 AM
Yeah, I modded all my old systems for region-free through like PS2/Dreamcast. My favorite mods were where you had an actual switch installed in the back to switch between regions. My Saturn has that.
I fried my first Xbox soldering it in 2004. Called it a learning experience. An expensive one now that I look back on it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on August 09, 2021, 12:32:40 PM
hard mods :scust

soft mods  :bernie
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Mr. Nobody on August 10, 2021, 06:59:01 PM
After 9 months, I've finally secured this baby  :rejoice
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tasty on August 10, 2021, 08:11:38 PM
After 9 months, I've finally secured this baby  :rejoice

I was about to congratulate you on the birth of your child, then re-read the thread title. :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on August 10, 2021, 09:41:00 PM
After 9 months, I've finally secured this baby  :rejoice

I was about to congratulate you on the birth of your child, then re-read the thread title. :lol
Looking at the prices on ebay, probably what you'd have to exchange for one.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on August 20, 2021, 07:49:54 AM
Ghost of Tsushima DC/PS5 version out today.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 25, 2021, 04:47:49 PM
Horizon Forbidden West has a release date of 2/18/22 apparently
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on August 25, 2021, 05:47:51 PM
Everything is getting announced for that week at the same time. Very odd. Saints Row, KoF15, Horizon 2. Normally stuff comes out at the end of the fiscal late March.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on August 25, 2021, 05:56:06 PM
Horizon 1 is now 60fps on PS5 BC

I still need to play it before H2, was going to go PC version for 60fps, but I already own the PS4 version so this is probably good enough for me.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on August 25, 2021, 06:08:07 PM
Everything is getting announced for that week at the same time. Very odd. Saints Row, KoF15, Horizon 2. Normally stuff comes out at the end of the fiscal late March.

Late March is the traditional Kratos Time.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on August 25, 2021, 06:15:30 PM
Also Elden Ring time too..  :lawd
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 25, 2021, 06:19:37 PM
Everything is getting announced for that week at the same time. Very odd. Saints Row, KoF15, Horizon 2. Normally stuff comes out at the end of the fiscal late March.

Late March is the traditional Kratos Time.

I would be shocked if God of War II: Ragnarok Boogaloo makes it out next year at all, but if it does it will probably be Novemberish.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on August 25, 2021, 06:35:37 PM
It will be announced for March 2022.





Then delayed to March 2023 of course.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on August 25, 2021, 06:37:30 PM
Everything is getting announced for that week at the same time. Very odd. Saints Row, KoF15, Horizon 2. Normally stuff comes out at the end of the fiscal late March.

Late March is the traditional Kratos Time.

I would be shocked if God of War II: Ragnarok Boogaloo makes it out next year at all, but if it does it will probably be Novemberish.

It'll be their fall/winter game.

Unless Spider-Man 2 is ready. Then it'll get delayed because Spider-Man sells more.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on August 26, 2021, 03:48:30 AM
I was going to say it's impossible the spider-man sequel is ready next year but at the rate Insomniac pumps out quality games, I don't know.  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on September 03, 2021, 12:58:17 AM
https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1433406942890930177

Quote
Tune in next Thursday, September 9 at 1:00pm Pacific Time / 9:00pm BST / 10:00pm CEST for a look into the future of PS5. The Showcase will weigh in at around 40 minutes and include updates from PlayStation Studios and some of the industry’s most imaginative developers, for games releasing this holiday and beyond. And stick around after the presentation to get more updates from some of the studio teams featured in the Showcase.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 03, 2021, 07:44:05 AM
Horizon: FW is up for pre-order (https://store.playstation.com/en-us/concept/10000886/).  REEEEE is absolutely losing their minds over the pricing. It hurt my head just reading the whining.  Granted, it would be nice if it were a straight forward price around the board, but until this cross-gen nonsense stops, I expect them to continue this route. 

But speaking of H:FW, I'm a bit torn because I wouldn't mind having the PS4 version too for reasons.  I was ready to pay the now standard $70 for the PS5 version, but to pay $10 on top of that just to have the last gen one too is a bit hard to justify... granted, it does come with a bunch of other content, like a soundtrack, comicbook, artbook, and a handful of in game items, but I usually don't care about that crap.

What I do know for sure, is that I ain't pre-ordering shit till about a week from the supposed release.  Tired of getting burned on delays.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 03, 2021, 08:30:34 AM
Microsoft is doing it right. Sony is being greedy and arrogant as fuck.

Dunno why you would pretend this is a normal way of doing things, when smaller pubs give free upgrades for their games.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 03, 2021, 08:47:14 AM
sony know that the ponies will queue up to give them more money for a patch/quick 'remaster' :money

nintendies are the same, xbots aren't as dedicated as either ;)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 03, 2021, 09:34:54 AM
Microsoft is doing it right. Sony is being greedy and arrogant as fuck.

Dunno why you would pretend this is a normal way of doing things, when smaller pubs give free upgrades for their games.
I don't disagree, but $10 here or there for upgrades on games I enjoy playing is ok with me.  It's far and few between those anyways (for me at least).  The thing about Horizon though which is distinguished mentally-challenged, is the having to pay more for the lesser version as well.  That should be automatically included with the "already upgraded" PS5 version.  That in itself should've been a given.

It can always change though... They did that double pack in bowl shit for Spider-Man where you had to buy Miles to get the Remastered regular Spider-man.  You can now get that upgrade for the standalone Spider-man for free now.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 03, 2021, 09:38:30 AM
Lets be honest, its just 10€ charge for upping the settings which should obviously be a free thing.

This is like paying for a patch tbh.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 03, 2021, 10:06:45 AM
Lets be honest, its just 10€ charge for upping the settings which should obviously be a free thing.

This is like paying for a patch tbh.
Yeah, I can see it that way too...  But for H:FW's instance, it's like paying extra for downgraded settings.  That's taking it too far there...  Only pseudo justification is the dlc content sprinkled in there. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 03, 2021, 12:59:22 PM
Oh wow... it IS more distinguished mentally-challenged than I realized...  The Collector's Edition with the steelbook doesn't even come with a physical disc!!  :lol :lol :rofl
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on September 03, 2021, 11:13:17 PM
I'm sure they put a lot more work into creating specific assets and optimisations for each platform so the game would run its best on both, relative to your average multiplat. Still a surprising tack to take; they must have anticipated the bad press but decided it was worth it anyway
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on September 04, 2021, 08:15:07 AM
 :nope Collector's Editions in general. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 04, 2021, 12:57:18 PM
bork obliterated :dead
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 04, 2021, 07:32:05 PM
They caved on Horizon free upgrade lol. Now it's free for everyone.

https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1434290271286530050


Dunno wtf Sony thought they were pulling. Also giving advance notice all future PS4->PS5 upgrades will cost $10, which is still dumb but at least that's more reasonable than all this deluxe edition bullshit they were pulling with H2.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on September 04, 2021, 07:51:07 PM
Such Smart (tm) Delivery (tm)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 04, 2021, 07:58:16 PM
Such Smart (tm) Delivery (tm)

Sony still doesn't even have a Game Pass competitor. You have to give them a decade to catch up to MS for each thing.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 04, 2021, 10:16:20 PM
Such Smart (tm) Delivery (tm)

Sony still doesn't even have a Game Pass competitor. You have to give them a decade to catch up to MS for each thing.
Like Nintendo, they can get away without one.. they know people will buy their games regardless.  Their install base is will suffice for now.  I'm surprised how quick they turned that around though.. they learned that tactic from MS. Lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on September 05, 2021, 12:37:26 AM
Such Smart (tm) Delivery (tm)

Sony still doesn't even have a Game Pass competitor. You have to give them a decade to catch up to MS for each thing.

Monthly PS+ stuff? PS Now?

It's not strictly the same thing, but you get access to a bunch of games for a monthly fee.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on September 05, 2021, 04:19:49 AM
The PS+ model is such a scammy piece of shit.
I had PS+ but was out for a couple of weeks, so i forgot to "claim" Ratchet and Clank (which they recently gave out for free anyway, but regardless) and so i "lost" my opportunity.
Also you don't retroactively get anything, unlike Gamepass.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on September 05, 2021, 06:08:06 AM
On the other hand as long as you "acquire" them, they're yours to keep. When games rotate out of gamepass that's it.

As I said, they're not strictly identical but they're in principle similar :yeshrug
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on September 05, 2021, 06:56:37 AM
Yeah but usually stay in for several months and you have a discount if you want to buy them (though usually there are better offers online).
I agree they're addressing the same idea, but PS+ is probably the poorest one around, if you consider price versus what you get once you sub to it.

Thing is, they're not good services if you're looking for that one game to play for 500 hours, but they are good to play games in rotation as they come out, and have an "instant library" kind of thing, which is were PS+ fails the most at (though on PS5 you do have that thing, i'm not sure how it works out).
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 05, 2021, 04:14:19 PM
I feel like people who defend PS+ just haven't experienced Game Pass on either Xbox or PC so the frame of reference just isn't there.

There is no competition, PS+ is a joke compared to Game Pass and might as well not exist. PS+ is essentially paying $60 or whatever a year for online play. The "free games" part is generally about three old ass games worth a couple bucks 90% of the time and every once and a while there's something good but that is rare.

Game Pass is basically half of the game releases in the world, both AAA and indie, for $10/month. It's Netflix of gaming. There's more stuff than you can ever play.


PS Now is sort of more similar to Game Pass except they are old ass games and it's streaming vs local. If they upgraded PS Now to have current day 1 releases constantly, even if it was a streaming platform, it'd be a Game Pass competitor. But right now there is just nothing on Sony that is similar to what Game Pass provides.

Sony reps have been saying for years that Sony is working on a Game Pass alternative, meaning they don't view PS+ or PS Now as that and something else is in the works. They're just taking fucking forever to announce/release whatever it is.


But yeah Smart Delivery will probably happen in PS6. Sony doesn't even have VRR support yet. They lag. Fuck we lost folders and still don't have them back.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on September 05, 2021, 05:44:08 PM
i dont think sony could eat the cost of gamepass like m$ though. xbox division alone would probably be valued higher than the entirety of sony. gamepass is sweet, but they are hemorrhaging cash on it. like amazon, m$ are using their deep pockets to offer value beyond what is possible for others (and making up for it with their highly profitable divisions like azure and aws)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 05, 2021, 05:48:04 PM
M$ taking a loss so us gamers win, God bless :rejoice
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on September 05, 2021, 05:53:39 PM
i wish m$ would fix the shitty servers they bind you to for updates in new zealand. i have to get on a vpn so it looks like im in the US of A to get ok download speeds. EA games and Epic have the best dl speeds  8) steam is aiight.

i have no idea how much cash ms are losing on gamepass, but it's def a loss leader, but it rolls in to the development of their bigger platforms (azure, windows etc). wouldnt be surprised if sony goes the way of sega p quick next gen
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on September 05, 2021, 06:14:36 PM
I think that if Sony runs into trouble it is more likely that they end up selling PlayStation to another company that wants to use the brand name to make a head start.

Back in the day even though a Namco merger was on the table and Microsoft showed interest, SEGA just didn't have that many valuable assets to sell.
Sonic was already tanking, new 'big' hits like Shenmue went nowhere and by trying to distance themselves from SEGA Saturn they focused more on the 'Dreamcast' than the SEGA brand.
Going multiplatform was really the only play they could make.

As of yet Sony sells every PS5 they ship and GamePass won't change that.

I would keep a closer eye on Nintendo.
Moving from video games to expanding their IP's into other ventures (movies, theme parks etc.) is historically very risky for gaming companies.
Nintendo has the luck that it doesn't all depend on a single IP though so they have more room to fail than others.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Kurt Russell on September 05, 2021, 06:53:24 PM
I would keep a closer eye on Nintendo.
Moving from video games to expanding their IP's into other ventures (movies, theme parks etc.) is historically very risky for gaming companies.
Nintendo has the luck that it doesn't all depend on a single IP though so they have more room to fail than others.

Within the next decade in addition to the WWE, Disney will purchase Nintendo for the IP. They'll then get swallowed up by Alibaba Group Holding.

Want to play the new Smash Bros? How's your social credit, my dude?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Beezy on September 05, 2021, 09:20:18 PM
On the other hand as long as you "acquire" them, they're yours to keep. When games rotate out of gamepass that's it.

As I said, they're not strictly identical but they're in principle similar :yeshrug
You keep the games you acquire through Xbox Live Gold, which is also included in the Gamepass sub. That's the same as the PS+ monthly games. And unlike PS+, games you acquire through XBL Gold are yours forever even if you let your subscription run out.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on September 05, 2021, 09:28:43 PM
Not 100% True Beezy, only the 360 games you keep
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 05, 2021, 10:30:56 PM
Speaking of Game Pass what's up with Forza 7 leaving on the 15th? I thought MS 1st party stuff is permanent.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 05, 2021, 11:03:15 PM
The car license stuff.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 05, 2021, 11:14:51 PM
The car license stuff.

Ah, makes sense. But you can still buy it? So weird. Might go ahead and buy it for $9.99 in case I ever want to play more of a non-Horizon game.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on September 05, 2021, 11:43:54 PM
Its not delisted until later this month, every Forza game deals with it
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 05, 2021, 11:45:17 PM
I've paid $78 for 3 years of PS+.  It's not that big of a rip off, especially with the Plus Collection added.  Nintendo Online on the other hand... :doge 
GP is definitely the best bang for you buck, but it's not for everyone.  It's a waste for me.  I don't have the time to play not even a portion of the games they offer.. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on September 06, 2021, 12:14:39 AM
I've paid $78 for 3 years of PS+.  It's not that big of a rip off, especially with the Plus Collection added.  Nintendo Online on the other hand... :doge 
GP is definitely the best bang for you buck, but it's not for everyone.  It's a waste for me.  I don't have the time to play not even a portion of the games they offer..

having never bought a PS4 ive found it to be incredible value on PS5 the last 9 months or so. already keen to play predator and hitman 2 this month. sorta things i normally wouldnt buy, but will probably enjoy somewhat and for smaller online multi titles i like the temporary boost in playerbase to get online, check 'em out then bail.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 06, 2021, 12:24:03 PM
I can't believe it's been almost 10 months already since this launched.   :neo
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on September 06, 2021, 01:53:06 PM
Went into an Euronics today (some big electronic store chain) to buy some minor shit and there was a guy, i guess you'd define as a FIFA/CoD type casual gamer, mumbling completely puzzled to his girl: "Not even here? [as in: at this store] where the fuck are all the Playstations?!".

Made me chuckle because i guess the chip shortage is that kind of news that doesn't directly reach that demographic, so its effects appear all the more puzzling.

Funny thing is, they had one PS5 as a demo unit, you know, under glass hooked to a TV, but it had no gamepads, so you couldn't even try that.  :lol
The struggle is real.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Beezy on September 06, 2021, 03:28:15 PM
Not 100% True Beezy, only the 360 games you keep
well shit
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Kurt Russell on September 06, 2021, 04:27:17 PM
Went into an Euronics today (some big electronic store chain) to buy some minor shit and there was a guy, i guess you'd define as a FIFA/CoD type casual gamer, mumbling completely puzzled to his girl: "Not even here? [as in: at this store] where the fuck are all the Playstations?!".

Made me chuckle because i guess the chip shortage is that kind of news that doesn't directly reach that demographic, so its effects appear all the more puzzling.

Funny thing is, they had one PS5 as a demo unit, you know, under glass hooked to a TV, but it had no gamepads, so you couldn't even try that.  :lol
The struggle is real.

Is there still much of a shortage then? I managed to get 2 at launch (sold one to the director of my company at face value because I'm smart) and recently managed to pick up an additional PS5 online for my office. I really thought that the PS5 shortage was over.

Worth trying to pick some up and sit on them until Christmas?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 06, 2021, 04:32:54 PM
Some game stores here in the Netherlands are even selling them at scalper prices. Think the disc model was going for 800 euros last time I checked. Then there's other stores that only sell them bundled with a bunch of shit to maximize profits.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on September 06, 2021, 05:01:36 PM
Is there still much of a shortage then?

they've sold over 10 mill units so far, and they still haven't been able to meet demand so yeah there's a "shortage" that said I've bought quite a few of them at rrp (for friends, not scalping), just have to be in discords that notify you when in stock online/on waitlists at stores that just allocate to the list.  i've been keeping an eye on series x restocks here too and there basically hasn't been one in about 4 months. ps5 has been relatively easy to find

ps4 had sold 20 million by the end of it's first year
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on September 06, 2021, 06:07:44 PM
I read the console shortage will continue until like 2023 :cat

Then I might as well track a PS5 down soon, so I don't have to worry about it down the line. Not like it will get any cheaper or receive visions anytime soon in this situation.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on September 07, 2021, 02:11:05 AM
I feel like people who defend PS+ just haven't experienced Game Pass on either Xbox or PC so the frame of reference just isn't there.

There is no competition, PS+ is a joke compared to Game Pass and might as well not exist. PS+ is essentially paying $60 or whatever a year for online play. The "free games" part is generally about three old ass games worth a couple bucks 90% of the time and every once and a while there's something good but that is rare.

Game Pass is basically half of the game releases in the world, both AAA and indie, for $10/month. It's Netflix of gaming. There's more stuff than you can ever play.


PS Now is sort of more similar to Game Pass except they are old ass games and it's streaming vs local. If they upgraded PS Now to have current day 1 releases constantly, even if it was a streaming platform, it'd be a Game Pass competitor. But right now there is just nothing on Sony that is similar to what Game Pass provides.

Sony reps have been saying for years that Sony is working on a Game Pass alternative, meaning they don't view PS+ or PS Now as that and something else is in the works. They're just taking fucking forever to announce/release whatever it is.


But yeah Smart Delivery will probably happen in PS6. Sony doesn't even have VRR support yet. They lag. Fuck we lost folders and still don't have them back.

I mean let's face it, if they came up with a gamepass like thing that would be the death of PSnow. It's likely already not doing all that well, so maybe they'll revamp it.

But the main difference with MS is that they have multiple IPs that sell a metric fuckload of copies. They'd be really dumb to put them day 1 on a 10 bucks sub programme.

It's not purely streaming BTW, a bunch of PS4 games can be downloaded as well.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on September 07, 2021, 03:23:54 AM
Some game stores here in the Netherlands are even selling them at scalper prices. Think the disc model was going for 800 euros last time I checked. Then there's other stores that only sell them bundled with a bunch of shit to maximize profits.
Yeah same here.
Admittedly i don't want one that much yet, so i haven't been looking hard, but every once in a while i check online and when i'm in a store i usually throw an eye out, and i've never seen one sold at MSRP.
And yeah, there are stores selling them from 700€ up, some including shit like gaming chairs and shit into it.  :lol

I also haven't seen any Series X, but those seem a bit easier to find.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on September 07, 2021, 06:40:24 AM
Not like it will get any cheaper or receive visions anytime soon in this situation.
Not sure, they might try to create a smaller revision that needs less silicon to get around the shortages and is cheaper to ship.
Nintendo's shipments were down 80% in July and 42% in August YoY.

Apart from special parts like GPU's and CPU's they're running out of common parts too.
The EU also set a goal to ban the sale of new petrol cars by 2035 which will increase demand further.

I think the golden age of cheap electronics is over. As raw materials are harder to come by.
Wasting chips on 'cheap' yearly phone revisions or 'smart' refrigerators might become a thing of the past.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on September 07, 2021, 06:43:44 AM
Making everything "smart" was a cancerous thing i'd be glad to see gone.
I just want them price cuts, but at this rate they'd be insane to do one before 2023.  :stahp
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on September 08, 2021, 07:55:59 AM
If papa Phil can manage to bring GamePass to PS5 and subsidize my 3rd party game purchases, I'd be all for it. 

 :success
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on September 08, 2021, 05:20:43 PM
Making everything "smart" was a cancerous thing i'd be glad to see gone.


i imagine looking back on it, it'll be a bit of a joke like when we used to try and put tv's in everything. that said, we're not going back to analogue systems anytime soon, but for sure having stuff like fridges with full tablets built into them is silly
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 08, 2021, 06:10:31 PM
https://twitter.com/cybergibbons/status/1435241451022082050
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tasty on September 08, 2021, 06:11:32 PM
Emphasize it harder for me 😩
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 09, 2021, 08:03:51 AM
So, Sony acquired FireSprite Studios; former Studio Liverpool folks.  Possible Wipeout successor incoming?  Yes please!
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 09, 2021, 08:38:16 AM
it will be a sad dad walking sim based on one of the pilots :heh
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 09, 2021, 08:45:10 AM
it will be a sad dad walking sim based on one of the pilots :heh
:lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on September 09, 2021, 02:16:41 PM
I've been getting website banner and youtube ads for this PS showcase, they're pushing it pretty hard.

If they give us a Bloodborne update, that alone will put over the top.  :aah
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on September 09, 2021, 02:46:51 PM
So, Sony acquired FireSprite Studios; former Studio Liverpool folks.  Possible Wipeout successor incoming?  Yes please!

Squadron 42 delayed to 2035.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on September 09, 2021, 02:47:24 PM
What if Sony buys S
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Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on September 09, 2021, 03:19:20 PM
Saved before they delete it

https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1436042612922798081 (https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1436042612922798081)

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Most of this year's gaming events have been pretty muted (thanks to covid), but I suspect today's PlayStation show will be worth taking your lunch break to watch. Expecting surprises, superheroes, and the reveal of a game that people have been hounding me about for years


Get ready for Killzone 4 bitches
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 09, 2021, 03:34:13 PM
Damn, they're finally making Vib-Ribbon 2?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 09, 2021, 03:37:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5VtfD2i3rc
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 09, 2021, 04:03:53 PM
2 minutes in... already worst show ever
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 09, 2021, 04:04:49 PM
Can we stop using New Order's blue monday.

Edit: Knights of the Old Republic Remake.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 09, 2021, 04:07:32 PM
Getting somewhere now...

Bayonettawho?!  :wong
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 09, 2021, 04:11:40 PM
Wish the Babymetal song was in a better game trailer.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on September 09, 2021, 04:13:43 PM
Devil May Waifu  :mynicca
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 09, 2021, 04:19:35 PM
Oh, Alan Wake is actually a remaster and not a remake. Kinda disappointed.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 09, 2021, 04:20:59 PM
Forspoken's dialogue is nauseating.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 09, 2021, 04:21:34 PM
HAHAHAAHAHAHA, they fucking delayed GTA5 on the PS5.  Fucking hell, Rockstar.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tasty on September 09, 2021, 04:21:44 PM
Oh, Alan Wake is actually a remaster and not a remake. Kinda disappointed.

Considering the rights hell that franchise has suffered, I'm glad it's getting some kind of new release.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 09, 2021, 04:23:55 PM
Seeing Eidos Montreal splash up and not being followed by Deus Ex makes me sad all over again.  :-\
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on September 09, 2021, 04:28:08 PM
 :snore
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on September 09, 2021, 04:31:32 PM
The Legend of Soyny: The Woke Waker  :heh
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 09, 2021, 04:33:23 PM
Uncharted on PC now I guess.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on September 09, 2021, 04:34:57 PM
"Games that you are not going to find anywhere else"

Uncharted on PC now I guess.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 09, 2021, 04:37:29 PM
The pretentious baroque for Gran Turismo's trailer is great. They should've kept with it.

Edit: Spider-Man 2 in 2023
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on September 09, 2021, 04:47:14 PM
First 90% was dogshit, then they killed it at the end.  :lol

I wasn't huge on GoW but the sequel looked great. Solo Wolverine game should be awesome. Spoodermans was expected.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on September 09, 2021, 04:47:30 PM
Lol, that was it?

Still no rush to buy a PS5 yet
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 09, 2021, 05:01:56 PM
And still no Bloodborne.  :mjcry
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: tiesto on September 09, 2021, 05:06:42 PM
Kinda meh, the Korean Bayonetta clone looks kinda neat though. Will see if the reviews hold...
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on September 09, 2021, 05:10:06 PM
This time GoW needs an option to skip cutscenes from the get-go and it might be good.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on September 09, 2021, 05:35:46 PM
Spiderman 2 is 2023, Wolverine got a 10s cutscene teaser so I'm guessing it won't come before, so Insomniac isn't releasing anything in 2022?

Lazy gits.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Kestastrophe on September 09, 2021, 05:43:08 PM
I somehow missed the Kotor remake during the presentation
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on September 09, 2021, 05:45:51 PM
Those interviews at the end were hilarious.

"So can we expect graphics enhancements or is this just like a remaster, like higher res"

The OG game is 20 years old you muppet :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: who is ted danson? on September 09, 2021, 05:48:07 PM
I feel like we are right on the cusp of 6x marvel games a year brehs  :rejoice

spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on September 09, 2021, 06:02:20 PM
Don't worry they'll mix it up with some Star Wars


What's that? Sonic and the Olympic Games remastered? Oh man, can't wait.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on September 09, 2021, 06:08:25 PM
When you need to spend your marketing budget before the year ends

https://twitter.com/PlayStationAU/status/1436077509573963796 (https://twitter.com/PlayStationAU/status/1436077509573963796)

but you have nothing to promote
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on September 09, 2021, 07:26:36 PM
Forspoken's dialogue is nauseating.

For once, a JRPG will have bad writing from America instead of Japan  :awesome

But looks good? :idont
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 09, 2021, 08:15:58 PM
The amount of marvel shit makes me want to puke.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on September 09, 2021, 08:50:37 PM
Very sad show tbh.
They went the MS route of showing logos, but without the excitement of getting "free shit" that Gamepass brings.

God of War looks pretty much the same as the one before it, GTAV remastered they couldn't even bother to list WHAT they had changed... yeah overall pretty lame.
Insomniac is carrying their whole line up tho? What's up with that? They seem to release 3x the amount of games the other studios release.

Forspoken's dialogue is nauseating.

For once, a JRPG will have bad writing from America instead of Japan  :awesome

But looks good? :idont
I don't think it looks very good.
why is everything so empty? Is it the Luminous being shit? Looks like a tech demo more than a game. :thinking
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 09, 2021, 09:10:09 PM
Yeah, Forspoken is definitely a pass for me.  I got enough open world games as it is, and I don't care for super powers/magic as a primary weapon/fighting style.  :yuck  Give me dat steel.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 09, 2021, 09:13:01 PM
Forspoken has really low budget cutscene models which is weird considering SE.

Gameplay looks good. Spider-Man 2 being Kraven & Venom and PS5 only is sick. They can do a good Wolverine.


Biggest disappointment was God of War. I'd almost think this was a Japanese game in that sense that remember when GoW games put jaws to the floor with insane spectacle visuals? Now it looks completely outdated from first trailer. Cross-gen killed this game's visuals. Should've been 2021.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Boredfrom on September 09, 2021, 09:29:49 PM
Forsaken looked pretty good to me.  :yeshrug

The bad dialogue seems to be in Gary Whitta ball park.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 09, 2021, 09:30:27 PM
I'm honestly getting fed up with cross gen games.  At first I was all for it, but I see how much shit gets held back now because of the catering to it. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 09, 2021, 09:31:21 PM
Forsaken looked pretty good to me.  :yeshrug

The bad dialogue seems to be in Gary Whitta ball park.
The dialogue made Immortals look/sound like serious poetry.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 09, 2021, 11:19:02 PM
Ok show I guess...

KOTOR Remake: Don't really care about these games or Star Wars to be honest.

Project Eve: Well It does look and sound like my kind of shit. But to be honest, like a lot of let's say AAA Korean games, they technically look cool, but there's a huge style over substance and a feeling of being in the shadow of Japanese games. Has my interests though.

Forspoken: This game just looks lame and with such a western targeted feel. This isn't what I want from Square.

Ghostwire: Maybe if it was third person. As it is I don't care.

Wolverine and SP2: Well I'm sure they will be perfectly fine games.

GoW2: Yeah kind of just looks like more of GOW. Shame it doesn't look like a big jump.

So yeah just ok at best.

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tasty on September 09, 2021, 11:40:00 PM
There was a GhostWire trailer??
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 09, 2021, 11:42:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UwvKrx9GoY
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: tiesto on September 09, 2021, 11:43:09 PM
Forspoken's dialogue is nauseating.

For once, a JRPG will have bad writing from America instead of Japan  :awesome

But looks good? :idont

"For once"? Obviously you haven't played the myriad of indie Earthbound wannabes (or YIIK). :P
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tasty on September 10, 2021, 12:08:31 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UwvKrx9GoY


Yesss :rejoice
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: remy on September 10, 2021, 12:54:50 AM
Forspoken's dialogue is nauseating.

For once, a JRPG will have bad writing from America instead of Japan  :awesome

But looks good? :idont

"For once"? Obviously you haven't played the myriad of indie Earthbound wannabes (or YIIK). :P

 ???

There are JRPGs other than final fantasy?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tuckers Law on September 10, 2021, 12:57:02 AM
Secret of Evermore baybee!   :wow
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 10, 2021, 12:58:11 AM
Ok show I guess...

KOTOR Remake: Don't really care about these games or Star Wars to be honest.

Even if you don't like Star Wars, this is a good rpg. I'd probably replay it if the remake is quality.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 10, 2021, 12:58:36 AM
I like Ghostwire because it looks like the Maken X sequel I've been waiting for
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 10, 2021, 07:24:19 AM
Ok show I guess...

KOTOR Remake: Don't really care about these games or Star Wars to be honest.

Even if you don't like Star Wars, this is a good rpg. I'd probably replay it if the remake is quality.
I agree.. but a part of me feels like, too little too late... This shouldve been done already at the beginning of last gen or something.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Before Jeremy Soule accusations
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I watched the GOWR trailer again last night, because I was still working while watching it and missed bits of it....  yeeeeaaaaah not really sold and will wait for a price drop.  Never seen a GOW appear so meretricious.  If there's any massive boss fights, they could give a 2 second teaser of it without spoiling anything.  At least they already said it's the finale installment of the Norse GOW series, so hopefully they go all out with it...  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on September 10, 2021, 07:45:12 AM
Forspoken's dialogue is nauseating.

For once, a JRPG will have bad writing from America instead of Japan  :awesome

But looks good? :idont
"For once"? Obviously you haven't played the myriad of indie Earthbound wannabes (or YIIK). :P


Thankfully true.

Indie games whose entire shtick is "inspired by"  :nope
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Kurt Russell on September 10, 2021, 08:14:44 AM
It's Ghostwire and the game with the ass in it for me.

What happened to the cat and robot game?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 10, 2021, 08:20:09 AM
It's Ghostwire and the game with the ass in it for me.

What happened to the cat and robot game?
Stray's spotlight was in the last State of Play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrdf44z4VWo
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 10, 2021, 09:35:01 AM
Project Ass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X3JR3pG0I8
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tasty on September 10, 2021, 11:18:54 AM
Whatever happened to that furry high school game? :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 10, 2021, 11:42:52 AM
They delayed it to 2022 and the narrative is being reworked. Apparently having the pedophile from Kotaku on the team wasn't the best choice.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Beezy on September 10, 2021, 11:43:47 AM
I hope Nieronetta ends up being as good as it looks.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: tiesto on September 10, 2021, 01:25:41 PM
Forspoken's dialogue is nauseating.

For once, a JRPG will have bad writing from America instead of Japan  :awesome

But looks good? :idont
"For once"? Obviously you haven't played the myriad of indie Earthbound wannabes (or YIIK). :P


Thankfully true.

Indie games whose entire shtick is "inspired by"  :nope

Oh man, so you mean you are not looking forward to my "Dark Souls of retro roguelike indie metroidvanias with a synthwave soundtrack and lots of chromatic abberation/glitch effects"?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 10, 2021, 01:43:56 PM
They delayed it to 2022 and the narrative is being reworked. Apparently having the pedophile from Kotaku on the team wasn't the best choice.

I was gonna make a gag about one of the team being a paedo and its true? :titus
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 10, 2021, 02:17:01 PM
Kate Gray (The writer they got rid off) was the one that posted the Harry Potter/Pokemon porn stuff on Kotaku. Some of the screenshots she included depicting minors.

She's probably not a pedophile, that's just me being facetious.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on September 10, 2021, 02:17:02 PM
They delayed it to 2022 and the narrative is being reworked. Apparently having the pedophile from Kotaku on the team wasn't the best choice.

I was gonna make a gag about one of the team being a paedo and its true? :titus

https://boundingintocomics.com/2019/09/25/kotaku-includes-graphic-images-of-underage-fictional-characters-including-pokemons-misty-in-article-about-video-game-porn/
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Kurt Russell on September 10, 2021, 05:46:16 PM
I was gonna make a gag about one of the team being a paedo and its true? :titus

Has to be Schreier. One million percent.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on September 10, 2021, 09:11:01 PM
Theoretically, Sony could have had an e3 conference with

God of War Ragnarök
Forbidden West Gameplay
Ghost of Tsushima Director's cut
GT7 trailer
Ghostwire trailer
Death Stranding Director's cut.
Wolverine Reveal
Forspoken gameplay
Spiderman 2 trailer
Korean Nier/Bayonetta ripoff
KOTOR remake

That's a pretty bitchin lineup. Instead they spread that news out over a few months and gave us Deathloop x10.  :brain


Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 13, 2021, 08:40:38 AM
Seems Deathloop is supposed to be quite good. Bought a copy to support Arkane.

If this manages to nail that 60s spy setting and they already did a reboot of another game. (Prey) Give them a crack at a new No One Lives Forever game, please.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 13, 2021, 01:15:24 PM
Yeah, some really high 10s. Arkane continues to make great games.

Will pick this up as well.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 13, 2021, 01:34:31 PM
Also, nice that the ps5 version is $54 if you have ps+
since everything is $70 these days that is appreciated.

Grabbed it. Guess it will unlock at noon.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 13, 2021, 02:39:23 PM
Totally didn't realize that F.I.S.T. came out last week.  Seems it got decent reviews too.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 13, 2021, 09:43:26 PM
It's really weird that Deathloop's unlock is like 9pm PST. Today is the official release day (13th), why isn't it out already wtf? Can't think of any other game that's released like this time-wise.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 14, 2021, 01:02:14 AM
Deathloop performance reminds me why I never played Dishonored 2, that game on PC at launch was terrible optimization and I figured I'd wait until I had a better GPU and come back to it.

Even in performance 60fps mode I'm seeing some stutters and tearing. It's good enough, but yeah quality mode is fucking terrible framerate all over the place. Raytracing is ok but the 30fps has stutters and some issues too.

I'm gonna guess this is a bit rough on PC too. Arkane games look really nice but they definitely could use some optimizations. Performance is good enough. Feels like a console FPS and looks solid enough.

Art design is stellar and game seems cool. The concept and art setting kind of remind me of MGS3 Snake Eater x Megaman. Go around fight supernatural bosses, get their powers. Really enjoying it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 14, 2021, 03:45:34 AM
Actually turns out it was just headbob fucking with the smoothness. Turned headbob off and now it feels smooth 60fps on performance on PS5. I remember RE8 feeling terrible until I turned headbob off as well. Does anyone like this? It just makes movement jerky.

Stealthed through the first two real stages. Game is really cool. Now that I'm getting a handle on it, it actually feels the closest to the new Hitman trilogy where there are these big sandbox stages with lots of "opportunities" and hidden stuff all around and your first "run" is just the tip of the iceberg and the more you play it the more you discover all the stuff in the maps.

Excited for the different time of day options to kick in on these maps. The art design is stellar and would like to see some of these areas with their night lighting.

The 3 death thing and only keeping the weapons/trinkets you pick up if you make it back alive makes for a pretty good intense session. Since until you finish a mission if you die the only penalty is restarting, but once you've finished the mission if you die you lose everything you grabbed in the mission so suddenly making it back to the entrance is intense. I kind of hope the enemies replenish after these intro missions so you can't just carve a safe way and then take the same way back without any worry which is kinda how I returned on these two stages, just re-tracing my path to avoid enemies and get out with my stuff.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 14, 2021, 04:23:59 AM
Probably garbage DENUVO DRM which is fucking over legitimate buyers again   ::) (on pc)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Beezy on September 15, 2021, 08:29:11 AM
Tales of Arise physical for $49.94

https://www.amazon.com/Tales-Arise-PlayStation-5/dp/B093B218BN/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2J3RNQ5I5UMA7&keywords=tales+of+arise&qid=1631708885&s=videogames&sr=1-1
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 20, 2021, 04:17:14 AM
I was reading some impressions of Deathloop's PC version and man I'm starting to feel like load times are the biggest pro of PS5 versions of games. Deathloop you're constantly doing mission after mission and having 5 second or less loads makes it not a bother. I think I'd be annoyed with longer loads.

Same with Judgment ps5. Game loads a decent amount for activities and certain interiors and 3 second loading was nice.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on September 20, 2021, 01:44:30 PM
Yeah, I've been playing Miles Morales the last few weeks and the load times are almost non-existent. Fast traveling is sub 3 seconds. Same with Ghost. Going from the PS5 home screen to actually playing the game in ~15 seconds is really spoiling me on other stuff.

I vividly remember the almost 3 minute wait time for GTAV on 360... :yuck
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 20, 2021, 02:36:04 PM
Forbidden West will also have "zero load times" as well on PS5.  It really is the best.  Completely spoiled on it too.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 20, 2021, 07:30:45 PM
Given that we live in a generation of fast travel games and cleaning up side quests and collectibles, instant loads across game worlds is a really big quality of life benefit.

I'll take it over PC versions even if gfx are a little worse. Though if the console is 30fps and PC is 60fps I'll still go PC in that case. Like I went PC for Tales of Arise because based off the demo the performance mode looked pretty rough on PS5 and the quality mode had a terrible framerate, while PC is doing 100fps+ no problem.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on September 20, 2021, 09:26:37 PM
are load times on xplatform games with ps5 really better than the pc equivalent (nvme gen4 ssd etc)? I have a modern pc with nvme gen4 drive as boot and for newer games and loading in games that are optimised (cyberpunk, metro exodus enhanced, star wars rogue squadron, psychonauts 2 that I've played recently) is fast to the point I've never thought about load times
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 20, 2021, 10:02:14 PM
are load times on xplatform games with ps5 really better than the pc equivalent (nvme gen4 ssd etc)? I have a modern pc with nvme gen4 drive as boot and for newer games and loading in games that are optimised (cyberpunk, metro exodus enhanced, star wars rogue squadron, psychonauts 2 that I've played recently) is fast to the point I've never thought about load times

Yes.

From what I've seen they're about half the length. So from 5-10 seconds to 0-2 seconds.

For most optimized games PS5 loading is instantly. Like you hit a button and you're in the game or at the new fast travel spot. Maybe a second or two or three max pause. It's pretty impressive technically.

Deathloop PC load times w/modern SSD are apparently around 17-20 seconds per mission and a few seconds on PS5 for instance.

I've generally never noticed PC load times with a good fast SSD, but PS5 makes me notice them in a positive holy shit how is this instant way. It really feels quality of life improvement having near instant loads in games.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on September 21, 2021, 06:52:35 AM
Deathloop PC load times w/modern SSD are apparently around 17-20 seconds per mission and a few seconds on PS5 for instance.

No sure if Deathloop is going to be a good example of an optimized game for comparison- seeing lots of reports of issues with the PC version (including load times) and a patch is supposed to be on the way.  The PS5 version is also making some people's PS5s make weird noises when loading. (https://kotaku.com/deathloops-ps5-loading-screens-are-making-some-horrible-1847680178)  Maybe coil whine?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 21, 2021, 07:28:34 AM
Kena is looking great
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 21, 2021, 07:39:41 AM
Kena is looking great
Have it downloaded, but can't try it till Friday.  :-\ Been getting pretty good reviews.  Some stating it harkens back to old GC adventure games like Zelda, Okami and Star Fox Adventures. Lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on September 21, 2021, 08:14:06 AM
Kena is looking great
Have it downloaded, but can't try it till Friday.  :-\ Been getting pretty good reviews.  Some stating it harkens back to old GC adventure games like Zelda, Okami and Star Fox Adventures. Lol

It's supposed to be pretty short, like 8-12 hours long.  Seems like something to pick up on sale.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 21, 2021, 09:35:09 AM
Kena is looking great
Have it downloaded, but can't try it till Friday.  :-\ Been getting pretty good reviews.  Some stating it harkens back to old GC adventure games like Zelda, Okami and Star Fox Adventures. Lol

It's supposed to be pretty short, like 8-12 hours long.  Seems like something to pick up on sale.
Same could be said about Mario Odyssey... But jokes on us, Mario doesn't go on sale... Even if it does, Kena is still cheaper at launch retail.  :trumps
Short is fine with me.  Gives me time to play through it quickly before Metroid comes out... which is probably another 8-12 hour game, but costs $60 instead.   :trumps
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on September 21, 2021, 10:41:18 AM
Kena is looking great
Have it downloaded, but can't try it till Friday.  :-\ Been getting pretty good reviews.  Some stating it harkens back to old GC adventure games like Zelda, Okami and Star Fox Adventures. Lol

It's supposed to be pretty short, like 8-12 hours long.  Seems like something to pick up on sale.
Same could be said about Mario Odyssey... But jokes on us, Mario doesn't go on sale... Even if it does, Kena is still cheaper at launch retail.  :trumps
Short is fine with me.  Gives me time to play through it quickly before Metroid comes out... which is probably another 8-12 hour game, but costs $60 instead.   :trumps

Did you forget to take your anti-fanboy pills this morning?  :P
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on September 21, 2021, 11:19:43 AM
Just buy it physical and sell it when ur done with it for 80% of the retail price
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on September 21, 2021, 05:04:34 PM
Kena is looking great
Have it downloaded, but can't try it till Friday.  :-\ Been getting pretty good reviews.  Some stating it harkens back to old GC adventure games like Zelda, Okami and Star Fox Adventures. Lol

It's supposed to be pretty short, like 8-12 hours long. 

:rejoice
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: chronovore on September 30, 2021, 01:34:47 AM
While in the USA, my sister says she wants to buy a PS5 for my birthday present. I tell her that it's a lovely thought, but more or less impossible, both in Japan and the USA.

The day before I left, a new PS5 arrived for me.

:rejoice

I repacked all my things to make sure I could bring it as one of my carry-on items for my return flight. I knew it would get mishandled or even stolen if I let it go through cargo (even if I re-packed it in its shipping box). So there I am, carrying a PS5 box through SFO, HNL, and KIX. I was getting eyeballed by many people, and 6 different people, including one flight attendant, wanted to know where I got it.

Once I finally got home with it, my son audibly gasped when he saw it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on September 30, 2021, 02:25:15 PM
https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1443592522337488896

https://twitter.com/hermenhulst/status/1443594280250093569
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on September 30, 2021, 02:26:59 PM
Also Demon's Souls sold 1.4 million 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 30, 2021, 02:53:39 PM
seems kinda low :thinking
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 30, 2021, 02:55:03 PM
seems kinda low :thinking
What I thought too.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on September 30, 2021, 03:13:00 PM
Naw for a launch game, that is very good. Add in the console is still supply-constrained.

By comparison, Bloodborne sold a little over 2 mil on a much larger install base by the time Old Hunters hit. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on September 30, 2021, 07:40:28 PM
I'm a bit skeptical about them making an original game next.
They proved great technical capabilities, but every time they had to implement artistic agency, the results were mixed (in particular regarding characters).
But i am curious to see how they'll express a sense of identity, in what kind of game they'll do.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on September 30, 2021, 09:44:53 PM
Yeah, I don't get why people really want them to make an original game.

So far they have taken great games and added a nice visual coat of paint to them. I would want them to keep doing this and taking classic great games and updating them visually for modern replays. There are still lots of classic games that could use visual upgrades.

There is no guarantee at all that if they make their own game it'll be any good outside having nice graphics.


Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on October 01, 2021, 02:18:02 AM
I think they deserve the chance to make their own game at this point. They probably would like to give it a shot and not be stuck making remakes forever :yeshrug


If that doesn't work out Jimbo will probably chain them back to the remake desk.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on October 01, 2021, 04:51:29 AM
I honestly don't want them to do remakes anymore. Their products basically look like those "MARIO IN 4K ULTRA HD" youtube vids. Like some student project with an AAA budget. I wish Demon's Souls had a toggle to go back to the old graphics.

They've basically been Playstation's 343 Studios. Their Halo remakes also look disgusting.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on October 01, 2021, 05:00:16 AM
Demon's Souls original graphics looked like shit tho.  :yeshrug
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on October 01, 2021, 05:12:50 AM
They're simple and clean. Blue Point overdesigns everything to show off their technical prowess. Same thing with 343's remake. They destroy the feel of the original in the process.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on October 01, 2021, 05:39:23 AM
I suppose there's an element of subjectiveness, i personally always found the game just downright ugly, not in a good, charming way.
Kind of a "put together" feel.

Bloodborne is where From started to have a strong visual identity, in my opinion.

I think bluepoint did a good job with Shadow, Wander design aside.
If i look at next gen Ueda graphics (Last Guardian) they're not that far off in terms of how they render rocks and such, even though the sense of scale in much greater in TLG, due to a stronger use of light and atmospheric perspective.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on October 01, 2021, 05:55:15 AM
Isn't that just because you like the victorian architecture more.

(https://preview.redd.it/1u0mx7tdzc451.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=8c7f07d57b7b736c4ba4b1908dbdbac8b278f1b1)

When I look at the bottom picture it makes me think the designers only thought about if it looked cool. Not if it made sense design wise.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on October 01, 2021, 12:45:15 PM
I think BB was their first game with a more cohesive visual style, Dark Souls (and even more so DkS2) felt very schizophrenic and at times bland and generic, visually speaking.
Demon was smaller so a bit better, but i think it also shared a bit of that problem.

That is not to say i don't have issues with BB though, some elements to me are crazy bad, like buildings shrouded in fog with a clear sky behind them and other absurdities, or areas like Nightmare Frontier being a visual mess to navigate, because of the overabundance of textured elements all over the screen.

Sekiro is probably their best effort on this front, visually clean but very strong and cohesive, with many iconic designs and very polished looks.
-
When it comes to alterations in remakes, it's kind of a tricky subject.
I feel like a 1:1 recreation is a fool's errand, so might as well inject personal authority into it.
That is fine and dandy, AS LONG AS the original (or a remaster/port) is still readily available.

If they were to remake Silent Hill 2 for example, i'd 100% barf in my mouth at the slightest change, but as long as i can get the original in some form and play it, whatever.
Resident Evil on GC after all wasn't a 1:1 recreation of the PS1 version, and yet it was significantly better for it, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on October 01, 2021, 02:21:12 PM
I honestly don't want them to do remakes anymore. Their products basically look like those "MARIO IN 4K ULTRA HD" youtube vids. Like some student project with an AAA budget. I wish Demon's Souls had a toggle to go back to the old graphics.

They've basically been Playstation's 343 Studios. Their Halo remakes also look disgusting.

This is a pretty subjective take. You're definitely not alone in this,

...but I think every game they've done blows the fuck away the original. Including SoTC with oh no slightly ugly Wanderer. I've been nothing but happy with their work on MGS/ICO/SoTC/GoW/Gravity Rush/Demon Souls and wish they would've been able to do Silent Hill. In terms of remake graphics, no one has done a better job than Bluepoint imo.

I mean Square's recent Nier Replicant remake for instance, is...ok. It's fine but I'd have killed for it to look like an actual PS4 or even PS5 game if Bluepoint had done it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on October 01, 2021, 02:23:08 PM
I think they deserve the chance to make their own game at this point. They probably would like to give it a shot and not be stuck making remakes forever :yeshrug


If that doesn't work out Jimbo will probably chain them back to the remake desk.

You say this like it's a bad thing.

Oh no, what a hard and degrading life for the studio to be making the definitive modern versions of classics games like Metal Gear Solid, SoTC and Demon Souls.

They aren't some port studio working on ports of like Shadowman or something. I'd think they'd be happy to be working on fucking great games a lot of them probably love and that people love what they do.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on October 01, 2021, 03:12:26 PM
Resident Evil on GC after all wasn't a 1:1 recreation of the PS1 version, and yet it was significantly better for it, in my opinion.

That had Shinji Mikami at the helm though. I don't even know if Bluepoint ever did their own gameplay. As far as I heard Demon's Souls PS5 was basically 1:1 on gameplay.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on October 01, 2021, 03:43:55 PM
I think they deserve the chance to make their own game at this point. They probably would like to give it a shot and not be stuck making remakes forever :yeshrug


If that doesn't work out Jimbo will probably chain them back to the remake desk.

You say this like it's a bad thing.

Oh no, what a hard and degrading life for the studio to be making the definitive modern versions of classics games like Metal Gear Solid, SoTC and Demon Souls.

They aren't some port studio working on ports of like Shadowman or something. I'd think they'd be happy to be working on fucking great games a lot of them probably love and that people love what they do.

Yet you also downplay the work on less flashy ports like Shadowman. I think the entire narrative sorrounding BluePoint, which demanded them to "upgrade" to "real" games, was pretty disrespectful. As history has shown, even making good ports isn't that simple. Image you find a craft you're good at and everybody tells you to do real work instead.

We don't even know what that studio is capable of beyond remastering. Not to mention, when Western developers vociferously announce new IPs like this, it's usually safe ass cinematic action adventures anyway. :snore And when it's announced, the same people cry that the announcement conference didn't revive nostalgic IPs instead.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on October 01, 2021, 04:47:15 PM
Resident Evil on GC after all wasn't a 1:1 recreation of the PS1 version, and yet it was significantly better for it, in my opinion.

That had Shinji Mikami at the helm though. I don't even know if Bluepoint ever did their own gameplay. As far as I heard Demon's Souls PS5 was basically 1:1 on gameplay.
True, but if we look at it from a "death of the author" point of view, you just look at the final product and judge it on its merit.
George Lucas went back and fucked up its own thing after all.

But i agree with you that Blue Point has shown "only" a (very good) technical background so far, as i said i'm skeptical of them going original, but ofc they deserve the benefit of the doubt at least.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on October 01, 2021, 05:24:05 PM
I think they deserve the chance to make their own game at this point. They probably would like to give it a shot and not be stuck making remakes forever :yeshrug


If that doesn't work out Jimbo will probably chain them back to the remake desk.

You say this like it's a bad thing.

Oh no, what a hard and degrading life for the studio to be making the definitive modern versions of classics games like Metal Gear Solid, SoTC and Demon Souls.

They aren't some port studio working on ports of like Shadowman or something. I'd think they'd be happy to be working on fucking great games a lot of them probably love and that people love what they do.

Yet you also downplay the work on less flashy ports like Shadowman. I think the entire narrative sorrounding BluePoint, which demanded them to "upgrade" to "real" games, was pretty disrespectful. As history has shown, even making good ports isn't that simple. Image you find a craft you're good at and everybody tells you to do real work instead.

We don't even know what that studio is capable of beyond remastering. Not to mention, when Western developers vociferously announce new IPs like this, it's usually safe ass cinematic action adventures anyway. :snore And when it's announced, the same people cry that the announcement conference didn't revive nostalgic IPs instead.

Look, I'm sure Shadowman took effort and it sounds like a good port/remaster. I'm just guessing most developers would rather work on MGS than Shadowman.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on October 03, 2021, 11:36:52 AM
Isn't that just because you like the victorian architecture more.

(https://preview.redd.it/1u0mx7tdzc451.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=8c7f07d57b7b736c4ba4b1908dbdbac8b278f1b1)

When I look at the bottom picture it makes me think the designers only thought about if it looked cool. Not if it made sense design wise.

this got posted a lot to this point originally, but if you actually played the game it's a massive overreaction. I loved the original. but the remake is beautiful, tonally consistent and an improvement to play.

I do agree on the 343 remakes, but their other work has been better. also whoever took that comparison screen upped the brightness and washed it out coz they mad, or Internet points or something
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on October 03, 2021, 12:02:34 PM
Also Demon's Souls sold 1.4 million

not surprising. even among souls fans I know that have bought a ps5 that had never played it they were kinda lukewarm on it until they pushed through the awkward beginning. some of those design decisions like making it harder when u die in soul form, little to no explanation for these systems, and heavily limiting items that can regain your humanity etc leads to a game that has enough of a bad rep for regular people to understandably avoid it. would've been really happy for BP to modify and have more explanation for the more enigmatic poorly implemented systems
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on October 03, 2021, 03:55:10 PM
this got posted a lot to this point originally, but if you actually played the game it's a massive overreaction. I loved the original. but the remake is beautiful, tonally consistent and an improvement to play.
:hesright
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on October 03, 2021, 04:00:47 PM
I did play the game and absolutely hated the visuals. So whatever floats your boat. It's like those hollywood remakes of Japanese horror we got in the early 2000s.

On a technical level it's impressive, but I cannot stand their art design.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on October 03, 2021, 08:41:31 PM
The Ring > Ringu.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
All the other remakes were shit tho.
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Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on October 04, 2021, 08:43:04 PM
I did play the game and absolutely hated the visuals. So whatever floats your boat. It's like those hollywood remakes of Japanese horror we got in the early 2000s.

On a technical level it's impressive, but I cannot stand their art design.

is it just the opening castle changing to a more gothic leaning style vs the squared off roman style? overall the updates feel very in line with the original art style, but for sure this was a big change stylistically. i dont understand why people say "it doesn't make sense" though, is it not just a different castle design?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on October 04, 2021, 09:02:48 PM
the biggest other change i noticed while playing, and can def understand not digging this, was the more traditional stage lighting of areas, especially internal ones. personally, i think it looked great, but it definitely eschews a lot of the realism and despair the original traded in. lots of little changes in the models but nothing i thought too drastic and mostly a tidy update, but everything did add up to quite a different vibe. i liked that. i don't think the original is some sacred cow in aesthetic design and it's still there, but the more i think about it the more it makes sense to not feel it. fortunately i dig it, the best looking souls entry for me, but i can understand why the specific tone of the original is important to people
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on October 04, 2021, 09:23:19 PM
might have to give the original a replay on RPCS3. still have the copy i bought 12 years ago i haven't touched in around a similar time :p i do love the unique, melancholic vision of the original. going back to four way rolling though  :'(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-R3WWLqjJQ&ab_channel=ElAnalistaDeBits

res update looks fantastic. going back and watching old videos i admit, i would've preferred just improving the internal res, adding some aliasing and other basic iq improvements to the original graphics with tweaks to gameplay. though as a launch title especially i understand why they'd avoid this and want a more traditionally presented fantasy game showing off the bells and whistles of what their new console is capable of.

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on October 11, 2021, 09:57:13 AM
https://www.t3.com/amp/news/ps5-gets-another-killer-graphics-upgrade-but-theres-a-huge-catch

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Sony has announced that it will be bringing a new feature to PS5 called 'Auto HDR Tone Mapping', and it basically does exactly what Dolby Vision does in games – yay! But you'll only be able to use it if you have a 'BRAVIA XR' TV, which means the five highest-end models from Sony's 2021 TV range.

 :cmonson
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on October 11, 2021, 10:57:36 AM
Jim Ryan: "The biggest dissapointment for me is that we still deliver PlayStation 5 entertainment to subpar screens. I personally suggested to allow only Bravia XR TV's to run our content but unfortunately this was technically impossible." :snob
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 11, 2021, 02:44:33 PM
https://www.t3.com/amp/news/ps5-gets-another-killer-graphics-upgrade-but-theres-a-huge-catch

Quote
Sony has announced that it will be bringing a new feature to PS5 called 'Auto HDR Tone Mapping', and it basically does exactly what Dolby Vision does in games – yay! But you'll only be able to use it if you have a 'BRAVIA XR' TV, which means the five highest-end models from Sony's 2021 TV range.

 :cmonson
Sounds like what they tried to pull for PS Remote Play; only allowing the app on the Xperia at first ...  Once they realize (again) that it was another asinine marketing push, I'm sure they'll drop it for other capable tvs down the line.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on October 22, 2021, 01:31:01 PM
Got one of these things.  Not that it matters, but the PS5 is even uglier than it looks in photos/videos.  At least standing it up vertically looks better, but from the front it looks like bent construction paper.

Am impressed by how relatively quiet it is and how quickly updates download/install.  Game downloads, too.  Massive improvement over the PS4.

Picked up FFVII Intergrade, Neptunia Reverse, and Devil May Cry 5 SE to go with it- interested in seeing how the latter will look and run at 120 fps on my LG C1, although IIRC doesn't it drop the resolution down to 1080P when doing this?

It prompted to download Guilty Gear Strive when setting up the system.  Neat how it just automatically upgrades and gives you the PS5 version like that.  Going to try out some other PS4 games and pay rip-off Sony prices to upgrade Spider-man and Ghost Of Tsushima. 

Also got two 4K blu-ray movies.  Been wanting to see how those look and never had a 4K blu-ray player before.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 22, 2021, 02:13:52 PM
Got one of these things.  Not that it matters, but the PS5 is even uglier than it looks in photos/videos.  At least standing it up vertically looks better, but from the front it looks like bent construction paper.

Am impressed by how relatively quiet it is and how quickly updates download/install.  Game downloads, too.  Massive improvement over the PS4.

Picked up FFVII Intergrade, Neptunia Reverse, and Devil May Cry 5 SE to go with it- interested in seeing how the latter will look and run at 120 fps on my LG C1, although IIRC doesn't it drop the resolution down to 1080P when doing this?

It prompted to download Guilty Gear Strive when setting up the system.  Neat how it just automatically upgrades and gives you the PS5 version like that.  Going to try out some other PS4 games and pay rip-off Sony prices to upgrade Spider-man and Ghost Of Tsushima. 

Also got two 4K blu-ray movies.  Been wanting to see how those look and never had a 4K blu-ray player before.
Awwww yeeeah

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/VZqu5PIIcBBMkRkuPv/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on October 22, 2021, 02:35:33 PM
Devil May Cry 5 SE to go with it- interested in seeing how the latter will look and run at 120 fps on my LG C1, although IIRC doesn't it drop the resolution down to 1080P when doing this?
FWIW I highly preferred the 1080p/60fps with RT on. the 120fps is all over the place.

Also Ghost of Tsushima has a free patch for 60fps. I think the resolution is 1800p (same as the pro version) so unless you need 4k, don't pay for the upgrade.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 25, 2021, 10:11:20 AM
https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1452621132163649536

They must've hired SunhiLegend to produce that gif.   :lawd
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 26, 2021, 08:14:41 AM
May be time to jump back in Returnal...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmBcI_9Bui0
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: archnemesis on October 26, 2021, 08:28:03 AM
I really like Returnal, but starting over from the beginning is too strict for me. I wish they had the same approach as Super Stardust, once you have cleared a level you can choose to start the game from second level. It would be even better if it saved my progress. Beating the first boss took me a long time and I doubt I will ever revisit it unless they add a more forgiving mode.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 26, 2021, 08:38:28 AM
I really like Returnal, but starting over from the beginning is too strict for me. I wish they had the same approach as Super Stardust, once you have cleared a level you can choose to start the game from second level. It would be even better if it saved my progress. Beating the first boss took me a long time and I doubt I will ever revisit it unless they add a more forgiving mode.
I agree.  Granted my hurdle is getting past the 3rd biome boss, a straight up 'reload save' would be much more welcome than a suspend, especially when you got the right drops.  It takes me over an hour just to get back there with decent power ups.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 26, 2021, 01:36:52 PM
State of Play tomorrow is confirmed to have an extensive look at Little Devil Inside.

https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1453036198583144450
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on October 26, 2021, 01:55:00 PM
I really like Returnal, but starting over from the beginning is too strict for me. I wish they had the same approach as Super Stardust, once you have cleared a level you can choose to start the game from second level. It would be even better if it saved my progress. Beating the first boss took me a long time and I doubt I will ever revisit it unless they add a more forgiving mode.

Isn't that precisely what this update is bringing?

spoiler (click to show/hide)
but also just git gud you scrub
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Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 26, 2021, 02:38:38 PM
No, they're just letting you suspend a run and exit the game without having to start all over.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on October 26, 2021, 03:05:21 PM
No, they're just letting you suspend a run and exit the game without having to start all over.

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I really like Returnal, but starting over from the beginning is too strict for me.

 ???
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on October 26, 2021, 03:11:42 PM
I wonder if you can cheat it somehow and go offline before booting so it doesn't delete your cloud save and then if you want to reload you can download your cloud save from last time you suspended.

Pain in the ass, but yeah it'd be nice if there were actual, you know, saves.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 26, 2021, 04:03:19 PM
No, they're just letting you suspend a run and exit the game without having to start all over.

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I really like Returnal, but starting over from the beginning is too strict for me.

 ???

You still have to start over from the beginning if you die.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on October 27, 2021, 01:50:40 AM
Ah, so like, chapter selection. I don't think it would make it any easier TBH.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 27, 2021, 07:36:04 AM
Ah, so like, chapter selection. I don't think it would make it any easier TBH.
I wouldn't think so either.  After you beat a chapter, it unlocks a permanent (but random) shortcut... But it's usually advised to not do that if you want to build up your arsenal adequately.  I have to fully run through just to even reach the 3rd boss.  That 3rd biome is flippin brutal with it's mobs.  Every vid I've watched on how to get past it, their health bar is doubled in size and have some level 20 shit with some shield that blocks everything.  :doge Well, of course you had no problem defeating it.  ::)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 27, 2021, 08:01:29 AM
Save scumming may actually be a thing.   Someone on REEEEEEEEEEEE posted:

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Ok, I reinstalled the game to try out the new "suspend cycle", for science.

So, save scumming works perfectly as you would expect. And in fact, it's now been streamlined: when on the PS5 home screen and on top of the game icon, press OPTIONS, then UPLOAD/DOWNLOAD SAVED DATA, and you'll have the two needed functions right there in the same screen, UPLOAD or DOWNLOAD. It really couldn't be easier.

A few notes of stuff I noticed while retrying a couple of times:

    Room layout is the same, so this appears to be randomized only when first entering the biome, not when retrying from your save
    Chests, Obolite chunks, resins, keys all appear in the same places and with the same malignant status, so also not random
    But interestingly, destroyable walls are random, although it appears that if a room has a destroyable wall, it will also have one when scumming, just in a different part of the room
    Enemy composition is random, you won't face the same enemies when scumming
    Although you can also suspend with enemies around, so if you've already triggered an enemy wave, it's the same enemies when you reload
    Dropped loot from enemies (items, weapons, parasites) is random
    Chest contents are random
    Fabricator stuff is random
    Terror image Splash screens when reloading are random
    Parasites on the ground are not random, they have fixed bonuses and maluses
    Bonus rooms entrances are not random, but the bonus room itself is random
    Didn't try it, but since the Obolite repository is tracked online, you could save scum right before depositing obolites, reloading and depositing again until full to get an item

Save-scummers rejoice! The time it takes from pressing the PS button, closing the game, downloading your data from the cloud and restarting to the point you're back in action is 42 seconds.
:thinking :obama
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Kestastrophe on October 27, 2021, 05:31:28 PM
remember when State of Plays were good?

 :engel
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 27, 2021, 05:52:57 PM
That was probably the worst one yet.

Little Devil Inside looks great though.

https://youtu.be/QFdoqcJEi8o
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on October 27, 2021, 07:32:06 PM
remember when State of Plays were good?

 :engel

no
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on October 27, 2021, 09:24:30 PM
I don't get it, they announced FFXVI with "ok" graphics saying they were using a different approach, being realistic with the production, announcing closer to the game shipping, etc, and now it's been forever since the reveal?  ???
I hope it's not yet another disaster...
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on October 27, 2021, 09:32:20 PM
Was there anything at all at the state of play besides Star Ocean?


Re: FF16, it's coming 2022. They're just not going to show it until it's 3-6 months from release and the visuals are basically done.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on October 27, 2021, 11:07:30 PM
I don't get it, they announced FFXVI with "ok" graphics saying they were using a different approach, being realistic with the production, announcing closer to the game shipping, etc, and now it's been forever since the reveal?  ???
I hope it's not yet another disaster...

Apparently they were aiming for a TGS trailer but they couldn’t cut it, and they only wanna show the game when it’s just about ready for release. I could see it releasing summer next year if they’re not full of shit.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 28, 2021, 01:04:46 AM
I just want to know if 16 has a party or not.

Also I think Star Ocean looks like my kind of trash. I don't even think it looks bad.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Beezy on October 28, 2021, 03:12:01 AM
The character models are ugly as hell. The rest of the game looks good.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 28, 2021, 09:11:23 AM
These State of Play's make no sense... It's like they draw names out of a hat on what to showcase at the last possible minute... But yet, like twice a day, they release vids of up and coming games.  For instance, this just popped up 4 hours ago..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a77JpFoZQwo
Seems like a neat indy game... But why not show this instead of that vomit inducing We are OFK interactive novel, movie, whatever it was, that was drawn out way too long?   :steel
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on October 28, 2021, 09:31:08 AM
I was really confused at the Let it Die thing. Who was asking for a sequel to a 2016 free to play game?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: tiesto on October 28, 2021, 10:55:50 AM
Era was shitting all over the new SO, tbh I don't think it looks that bad (the environs and exploration give me Xeno X vibes, which is always good) aside from the poor character models (something that SO has always had since they went 3D).

But then again they may just be shitting on it because of her:

(https://www.jp.square-enix.com/so6/assets/img/character/elena/character@sp.png)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on October 28, 2021, 02:07:57 PM
Little Devil Inside looks pretty neat. Looking forward to playing it when it comes out in 2029.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 01, 2021, 05:35:02 PM
Haven't turned ps5 on for a while, pc and switch ruling the roost but damn glad i did. Uninstalled BF5 last month, and they've got Hell Let Loose available for free now. So keen.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 08, 2021, 11:28:13 AM
https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1452621132163649536

They must've hired SunhiLegend to produce that gif.   :lawd

https://twitter.com/Guerrilla/status/1457710288581664776

 8)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 08, 2021, 02:29:16 PM
If the robo-raptor has cool jumping attack animations while mounted, this will be my GotY 2022.

I'm a man of simple tastes. I'm always satisfied with the best mounts.

 :snob
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 09, 2021, 09:13:59 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz3PKWMPOUY
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 09, 2021, 02:54:33 PM
https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1452621132163649536

They must've hired SunhiLegend to produce that gif.   :lawd

Grabbing far off chests. :rejoice
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on November 11, 2021, 06:15:34 PM
Im more of a close chest grabber myself
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 12, 2021, 08:23:17 AM
I usually Pullcaster after grabbing chests.   :snob
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: chronovore on November 18, 2021, 09:15:11 AM
https://youtu.be/P4Lshbq27nw
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on November 18, 2021, 12:06:04 PM
"Looks like a bulky late 2000s router, let's make it look like a bulkier 1970s radio"
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 18, 2021, 03:04:42 PM
Hey, that look is probably nostalgic to grandpa Chronovore.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on November 18, 2021, 03:19:27 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: chronovore on November 20, 2021, 09:32:08 AM
Hey, that look is probably nostalgic to grandpa Chronovore.

:lol

It’d hafta be chromed plastics and fake wood siding. Some kinda 8-track vibe.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Kurt Russell on November 20, 2021, 08:10:02 PM
Anyone know if there's a way to see historical price drops on the PS store? Thinking about pulling the trigger on Hitman 3, but it seems pretty expensive even after discount and I'm sure it's been cheaper before.....
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on November 20, 2021, 10:45:02 PM
Anyone know if there's a way to see historical price drops on the PS store? Thinking about pulling the trigger on Hitman 3, but it seems pretty expensive even after discount and I'm sure it's been cheaper before.....

https://psprices.com/
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Beezy on December 19, 2021, 06:35:23 PM
https://twitter.com/finalfantasyvii/status/1472688441389314048
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: chronovore on December 19, 2021, 07:32:06 PM
Had a 15 year old Sony Bravia that was top-of-the-line at purchase. "Full HD" - what could be better?

Bought an HDR 4K Aquos and connected my PS5 to that. Suddenly Ghost of Tsushima makes RDR2's 30fps look shabby. This is just stunningly beautiful.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 19, 2022, 12:09:01 PM
Probably gonna cave and get a PS5 before GT7 drops (if I can snag one), is the controller battery life still dog shit?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on January 19, 2022, 12:17:47 PM
Probably gonna cave and get a PS5 before GT7 drops (if I can snag one), is the controller battery life still dog shit?
I'd say a good 4 hours straight using full-on haptics.  The DSe is much improved in all aspects over the DS4, IMO. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 19, 2022, 12:20:08 PM
 :yuck
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on January 19, 2022, 01:23:01 PM
It's hands down Sony's best controller since the DS3.  :idont
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on January 19, 2022, 02:11:31 PM
Probably gonna cave and get a PS5 before GT7 drops (if I can snag one), is the controller battery life still dog shit?

Just charge it like you'd charge your phone.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tuckers Law on January 19, 2022, 03:06:09 PM
Probably gonna cave and get a PS5 before GT7 drops (if I can snag one), is the controller battery life still dog shit?

Yes.  It may be a little bit better than the DS4, but neither has good battery life.  Wii U pro controller continues to be the king for that.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on January 19, 2022, 03:50:07 PM
DS4 never felt problematic to me. Do you all start charging it when it says that the battery is low? Because when it does that, there's usually still 2 to 3 hours in it. :idont
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on January 19, 2022, 04:36:28 PM
Or have a 2nd controller as backup and swap them out constantly.  Been doing that since PS3.  :idont
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on January 19, 2022, 04:39:33 PM
DS4/5 always sucked to me after DS3 which lasted forever in terms of battery life.

With DS5 I usually get through like a week on casual 1-2 hours/night play before I'm down to one bar. But if I'm playing an 8 hour all day session I'll be down to one bar by the end of the day.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Don Rumata on January 19, 2022, 05:27:02 PM
Battery on the DS4 is bad, but everything else was a massive leap from the DS3.
Haven't tried the Dual Sense yet.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 19, 2022, 05:29:28 PM
DualSense has grown on me and does feel good.

Dpad still sucks for fighters though.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on January 19, 2022, 05:41:41 PM
DualSense has grown on me and does feel good.

Dpad still sucks for fighters though.
Interesting.  I know we all have different hands, but I thought the d-pad was greatly improved over the DS4... like they went back to how it was on DS3.  But then, I don't play fighters, so I guess it's different for me...  It's been excellent for 2D platformers.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on January 19, 2022, 08:32:24 PM
i've found the dpad really inaccurate, and way too squishy. series x dpad is one of, if not the best on the market for my taste.

i have three PS5 controllers and the fast charging station so i can play local co-op and swap out if a controller gets low  :doge having skipped the PS4/Xbone gen, the low battery life was really surprising to me at first. great controller overall though, probably edges out the series x for me. just not very into the dpad, but it's serviceable. always had a xbone pad for pc but use really good rechargeable AAs so hadn't really thought about the low capacity battery quality problem for in built batteries
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on January 20, 2022, 07:20:19 AM
Hori is on it with a new fightpad and stick:

https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1483152142575845382

I have the PC/Xbox version of the pad and am not big on the dpad for fighting games, but am hoping the one I got was just bad or they've improved it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on January 21, 2022, 03:46:39 AM
That's good. PS5 has needed a good stick/fightpad since Strive and with KoFXIV about to release.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 24, 2022, 07:00:45 PM
Probably gonna cave and get a PS5 before GT7 drops (if I can snag one), is the controller battery life still dog shit?
I'm actively looking for PS5's now and I bet when (if) I snag one they'll announce a 6 month delay on GT7 :stahp
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on January 24, 2022, 07:04:53 PM
Probably gonna cave and get a PS5 before GT7 drops (if I can snag one), is the controller battery life still dog shit?
I'm actively looking for PS5's now and I bet when (if) I snag one they'll announce a 6 month delay on GT7 :stahp

Not sure if you're being ironic, but news articles today are GT7 is likely about to get delay announcement. They just delayed a press event that was supposed to be tomorrow?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 25, 2022, 06:02:12 AM
I wasn't :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 28, 2022, 07:29:59 AM
snagged one of these bad boys and it's coming tomorrow. are download speeds improved? my ps4 (day one, maybe later models were better?) download speeds were fucking tragic compared to the super fast ones I'd get on the Xbox.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on January 28, 2022, 07:36:57 AM
snagged one of these bad boys and it's coming tomorrow. are download speeds improved? my ps4 (day one, maybe later models were better?) download speeds were fucking tragic compared to the super fast ones I'd get on the Xbox.
Congrats! DL speeds are roughly double that of PS4.  Play Astrobot!  :D
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: archnemesis on January 28, 2022, 07:56:28 AM
Downloads speeds are fine on the PS5. I get many games from PS+ and PS Now. Large games, e.g. The Last of Us 2 (77 GB), can now be downloaded in a reasonable time.

Ethernet cables make a difference, especially when playing streamed games off PS Now.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 28, 2022, 09:51:17 AM
as long a its roughly inline with what xbox has been like since the original xbone (at least) its all good :itagaki
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 30, 2022, 03:55:47 PM
It might grow on me over time, but I'm not digging the dualshock 5 yet and much prefer the xbox controller (I have been using either a one or series controller pretty much exclusively for 18 months tbf).

Why on earth do they persist with the stupid touch pad too, no game uses that shit for anything other than a map/inventory button (and move the left stick where the dpad is for fuck sake even nintendo do that :stahp).
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: chronovore on January 30, 2022, 07:06:47 PM
I like the touchpad implementation in Ghost of Tsushima. Somehow it feels more natural than a button tap.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Kestastrophe on January 30, 2022, 07:59:14 PM
Agreed to disagree, love the dualsense
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on January 31, 2022, 09:07:48 AM
(and move the left stick where the dpad is for fuck sake even nintendo do that :stahp).
(https://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/blaspheme_blues_brothers.gif)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on January 31, 2022, 11:10:50 AM
https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1488090021122949120
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Kestastrophe on January 31, 2022, 11:58:43 AM
Just noticed theres no sleep/snore emote
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on January 31, 2022, 02:24:38 PM
I haven't played a GT since GT3.  :-[ 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: archnemesis on January 31, 2022, 02:44:39 PM
They're still fun, especially if you use a racing wheel. I'm still annoyed that the Logitech wheel that I got for my PS3 isn't compatible with more modern consoles. It works fine with PC.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 31, 2022, 04:14:54 PM
GT7 is why i bought a PS5 :lol (and eventually final fantasy 16)

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on February 02, 2022, 11:54:16 PM
Me starting to watch the GT7 State of Play....  :shaq2
Then..  :obama
Then..   :leon
Then watching the rest....
 :whoo :lawd :ohhh :anhuld :hulk :crazy :mindblown
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on February 03, 2022, 02:10:05 AM
I just hope the single player campaign is fun. They spend so much time on the car list, but c'mon, is anyone really going to drive more than like 50 cars in the game? I'd rather they hype up tracks and campaign mode stuff than endless cars I'll never use.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on February 03, 2022, 09:02:09 AM
I just hope the single player campaign is fun. They spend so much time on the car list, but c'mon, is anyone really going to drive more than like 50 cars in the game? I'd rather they hype up tracks and campaign mode stuff than endless cars I'll never use.
Yeah, I was just expecting "Over 5,000 cars and 500 tracks with 4K graphicsez!!" and that was it, but the extra stuff like the cafe seemed kinda cool. (And 2player couch co-op split screen!)  The weather and stars shit though...  who the F pays so much attention to such details?!  Holy smokes!  Ironically, this is looking to be the Ace Combat 7 of driving games.  I need to see more of what rally stuff they'll have though.  That's my jam.

Edit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlbMzBnfnzM
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 03, 2022, 10:10:16 AM
Obvs watching on youtube is very different from the real thing, but GT7 doesn't look as good as Forza 7 did on a Xbone X imo.  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 03, 2022, 12:06:31 PM
I think its mostly because the tracks and environments in Gran Turismo tend to look flatter than in Forza games?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on February 03, 2022, 01:49:19 PM
I think its mostly because the tracks and environments in Gran Turismo tend to look flatter than in Forza games?
Never played a Forza, so I wouldn't know.  But yeah, seems GT pretty much always reuses the same real life tracks all the time.  Would love to see their team come up with their own tracks.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on February 03, 2022, 02:00:49 PM
Didn't realize a Ghostwire showcase is today  ???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbGE-Uvce8Y
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on February 03, 2022, 04:16:14 PM
I find real world tracks in Forza/GT/all racing games super boring visually. Just fucking grass and track. I'm not into real world races and so that stuff is so boring to watch for me.

The best tracks have always been the city races or made up stuff through gorgeous forests and whatnot. GT7 supposedly has a lot of tracks (I think like 34? or something), so hopefully there's some nice ones.

Cars are already photorealistic in these games. Not much more you can do to make them look good. The visual focus at this point should be on tracks, weather, time of day lighting.

To be fair though, Forza 7 looks fucking amazing. I don't like Forza much, but I still stuck around and played it for a few weeks and even bought the game before they lost the license because it's just so damn gorgeous with the fast speed time of day lighting changes and weather. Even Horizon 5 left me really underwhelmed visually coming from Forza 7.

So I wouldn't be surprised if GT7 doesn't look as good as Forza 7. If it gets close though, it should look pretty sick, since like I said F7 is the best looking racing game on the planet. But the campaign was still pretty sucky. So hopefully GT7 is better there.

You know, I loved the fuck out of GT1-3 and put dozens and dozens of hours into them. Just loved the series and its rpg campaigns and it got me interested in lots of cars. But I fell off GT pretty hard the last few entries as it focused more on MP and had barebones SP campaigns. Plus sim racing is pretty boring to me. It was the campaigns of GT1-3 that made them fun. There's a lot of talk about GT7 going back to the old rpg campaign style. Would be nice if they pull it off and it's not some shallow modern version.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tycoon Padre on February 04, 2022, 11:24:03 AM
Didn't realize a Ghostwire showcase is today  ???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbGE-Uvce8Y

I'm suspicious of how little we've seen,and how this is launching out of nowhere at the end of the financial quarter, but that actually looks pretty sick. Just please don't be busted or rushed out in some way. And for the love of god have a functional PC port, Tango's stuff has always been such a fucking mess there.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 06, 2022, 01:11:06 PM
https://imgur.com/a/9ujDg1X

Pardon my shitty looking home, but got one of those PS5 covers.

Well it looks a little less stupid, but maybe they went with white initially because it made the shape pop more.

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on February 06, 2022, 02:54:44 PM
Love the collection of consoles but you need to give some a bit more space if you plan on using them otherwise they'll overheat
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 06, 2022, 04:21:53 PM
trying out :aloy: zero soy on ps5 and what the fuck, how is shit from 2017 the best looking game I've ever seen :titus

EDIT:it's the HDR :thinking
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on February 06, 2022, 05:44:07 PM
Decima :lawd
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Kestastrophe on February 06, 2022, 09:56:50 PM
Just found out Tiny Tina free ps+ game is the same dlc from BL2  :beli
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on February 07, 2022, 01:28:33 PM
https://twitter.com/SonyAI_global/status/1490717055536050181

 :thinking
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: chronovore on February 08, 2022, 01:21:30 AM
https://twitter.com/SonyAI_global/status/1490717055536050181

 :thinking

:itsnothingburger.gif

Is there ANY actual information in that teaser?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on February 08, 2022, 06:35:50 AM
https://twitter.com/SonyAI_global/status/1490717055536050181

 :thinking

:itsnothingburger.gif

Is there ANY actual information in that teaser?
:idont
Most likely nothing.  At most, some silly tech demo racer of sorts I would presume..   If only Polyphony would revisit Omega Boost (in VR) or something actually not GT.  :-\
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on February 08, 2022, 08:36:02 AM
(https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aV7pX3M_460s.jpg)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on February 08, 2022, 08:38:13 AM
https://twitter.com/SonyAI_global/status/1490717055536050181

 :thinking

:itsnothingburger.gif

Is there ANY actual information in that teaser?
:idont
Most likely nothing.  At most, some silly tech demo racer of sorts I would presume..   If only Polyphony would revisit Omega Boost (in VR) or something actually not GT.  :-\

I miss Motor Toon.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on February 09, 2022, 09:53:16 AM
New PS5 beta update incoming...  Still no folders, but...

Quote
New PS5 UI Features

  -  Filter by genre
        We've added an option to filter your game collection by genre, letting you quickly find specific types of game experiences.
  -  Keep in Home
        You can now keep the games or apps you choose on your home screen by selecting "Keep in Home" with the (options) button.
        You can keep a maximum of five games and apps on each home screen with this feature.
  -  Increased apps on the home screen
        You can now have a total of 14 games and apps appear on your home screen.
(https://media4.giphy.com/media/NCjISbEPFxm48/giphy.gif)

There's other stuff for accessibility and chat features too, etc.
https://blog.playstation.com/2022/02/08/new-ps5-and-ps4-system-software-betas-roll-out-tomorrow/
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on February 23, 2022, 08:31:16 PM
In the last month or two has anyone else been getting a weird 1-2 second pop up of "checking for cloud storage save" when you take the system out of rest mode and resume a game? It's not a big deal but it's weird that this only started recently for me.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 23, 2022, 09:56:52 PM
In the last month or two has anyone else been getting a weird 1-2 second pop up of "checking for cloud storage save" when you take the system out of rest mode and resume a game? It's not a big deal but it's weird that this only started recently for me.
Yes that's been happening to me while playing Horizon.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on March 01, 2022, 06:35:00 PM
I saw GT7 has 3 second loads or something to races.

That's a bigger game changer for GT and the racing genre than anything else  :lol


Also the skybox and time of day stuff is supposed to be very, very nice according to Digital Foundry. Since that was the most impressive stuff in Forza 7, sounds great to me. Definitely will check the game out and give it a bit of time this weekend. Everything sounds good about it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on March 01, 2022, 07:34:41 PM
I'm curious to how they're going to expand in it post release and how :money, they added a shit load to GT Sport post release for free, but that was a weird thing (that I never really got into) so God knows if that's what to expect from GT7.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on March 01, 2022, 08:19:09 PM
Well GT Sport released half-assed MP barebones thing so they tried to make up for it No Man Sky style by adding to it for years.
I got too burned on GT Sport initially and I came back for the SP "campaign" which was just a bunch of cups and no real progression and it just wasn't for me.

GT was always my carpg as a single player gamer who likes rpgs and likes cars. GT Sport wasn't. Hoping GT7 brings it back.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on March 02, 2022, 10:14:23 AM
GT7 is getting pretty good scores so far.  Sitting at an 88 metacritic atm.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Polident Hive on March 03, 2022, 08:32:11 AM
Back in 2006, whenever Project Gotham Racing 3 came out, I thought: this is it. How do you make car games look better. Every couple of years I check in on one of these and get reminded that I'm an idiot.

https://twitter.com/ultrabrilliant/status/1498978389977452544
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on March 04, 2022, 03:04:05 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/iONqYrkh.jpg)

Couldn't put GT7 down tonight. Game is hilariously dated in some ways and doesn't look amazing (looks fine, but tracks are really sparse and weather effects aren't too impressive), but it's the most 90s Japanese videogame I have played in a long time.

It's really classy and fun and totally missing some modern QoL stuff. Music selection seems a bit small since I was already hearing repeats after a few hours.

But man, driving with assists off in cockpit view, no rewinds and a pretty shitty racing line (doesn't change braking colors) is an intense fun experience learning the tracks and their turns with your car. If I had the room in my small room I'd be tempted to pick up one of the lower price FF Wheel & Pedal sets for this.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on March 04, 2022, 05:00:35 AM
I only had the chance to do the first few menu books last night and I'm working for the next 8 hrs :fbm
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on March 04, 2022, 06:54:34 AM
Back in 2006, whenever Project Gotham Racing 3 came out, I thought: this is it. How do you make car games look better. Every couple of years I check in on one of these and get reminded that I'm an idiot.

https://twitter.com/ultrabrilliant/status/1498978389977452544
They cheat a lot with photo modes in these race games and upping the graphics for only the player car.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on March 04, 2022, 07:01:36 AM
And the games still arent as fun as PGR3
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on March 04, 2022, 08:27:11 AM
Forza Horizon 5 is very fun but I greatly miss PGR.  :'(
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on March 04, 2022, 08:41:21 AM
Tokyo Xtreme Racer is still my top street racer jam.  :lawd
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on March 04, 2022, 11:45:58 AM
Forza Horizon 5 is very fun but I greatly miss PGR.  :'(

Yeah, PGR still the best racer.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on March 04, 2022, 02:51:30 PM
Welp, just spent $1,000 for the official wheel w/2 pedals from Fanatec. Will find a small lightweight Ikea table to clamp it because I ain't got no room for a weight wheel stand.


Maybe spend another $200-$300 for the clutch pedal/shifter, but will start with this and figure out how much I want to commit. Using some of the $19,000 I got from selling my S2K to get a virtual S2K experience  :lol

*edit* looks like the clutch pedal + shifters w/table clamp is about another $500  :'( 
Racing wheels are fucking insane.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on March 04, 2022, 03:19:18 PM
:titus
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on March 04, 2022, 03:21:23 PM
The power of Gran Turismo nostalgia  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 04, 2022, 08:37:05 PM
How fucking long has it been since they made a real TXR game? I think the last one was on 360
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on March 06, 2022, 04:28:47 AM
Spent an hour getting my racing line down to get 1st place in the very first daily online race. I suck so getting 1st against human beings is a big accomplishment and feels good.

(https://i.imgur.com/LCAhuvfh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/d6P4XRsh.jpg)

Also I can't believe the photoshop mode has 2,500 photos to play with. Damn. So much fun. Although for California there is a severe lack of Los Angeles locations and way too many photos from like ...the Salton Sea :\  But having lived in Aomori Japan was cool seeing all the Aomori spots.

I'm always impressed how well they can fake the cars fitting into these 2d photos.

(https://i.imgur.com/XPv2j9Hh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/vLSm6LNh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Vz5Zyfqh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/JDGAkZMh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/F4x6AeHh.jpg)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on March 06, 2022, 09:08:40 AM
why are the wheel spins so shit. Out of the 10 or so I've had, I've gotten the worst prize 8 times >:(
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on March 06, 2022, 12:26:11 PM
why are the wheel spins so shit. Out of the 10 or so I've had, I've gotten the worst prize 8 times >:(

Same, haven't gotten a car yet.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on March 06, 2022, 04:27:21 PM
https://youtu.be/emI526dr9yE

Tried go-karts in the rain, didn't go so well. Even with all assists on couldn't even drive in a straight line. Meanwhile the CPU AI has no issues with rain. I saw a review mention that, seems like a bug.

The rain is impressive in that it's very reactive when driving over it and it's handled very realistic. Like on the Tokyo expressway the areas where there is an overhang there's not much rain and you grip fine but then the open areas of the track are impossible to drive with soft tires. But it is kinda sucky that out of 34 tracks only 5 have rain and 29 don't :| I get it takes time with a realistic implementation like this, but you'd think between Sport and now there'd be enough time to do wet tracks for all of them.

https://youtu.be/Z4IKfUffDfI

Driving it in the day was completely different experience.



Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on March 06, 2022, 04:29:03 PM
Also this was an online race last night where some mother fucking bumped me on purpose into the goddamn wall five mins in and cost me first place. I'm the blue car and watch the red car fucking bump me here:

https://youtu.be/1VXnB1TmtSo

https://youtu.be/DZLkJNsRZYI

Shit was so on purpose.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on March 08, 2022, 11:57:47 AM
https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1501211305650368524
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on March 08, 2022, 01:14:05 PM
Not expecting anything hot given how long it is tbh.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on March 08, 2022, 01:21:41 PM
And the games still arent as fun as PGR3

Which was nowhere near as fun as the Sega and Namco arcade racers.  I miss arcade racers so much- sims are :zzz  Gran Turismo has always been a snoozer.  Keeps looking better, but stays boring. 

:bow Cruisn' Blast :bow2

Not expecting anything hot given how long it is tbh.

Well, yeah- They barely have anything coming out of Japan now.  :-\

Would love to see something new and good.  Not getting my hopes up. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on March 08, 2022, 04:39:44 PM
Main things people might get their hopes up for would be FF16 or a peek at FF7 remake part 2, or the resident evil 4 remake. I'd expect Tekken dlc, the same chrono cross trailer from Nintendo and maybe the FF 1-6 remasters at abolsute best.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on March 08, 2022, 08:27:22 PM
And the games still arent as fun as PGR3

Which was nowhere near as fun as the Sega and Namco arcade racers.  I miss arcade racers so much- sims are :zzz  Gran Turismo has always been a snoozer.  Keeps looking better, but stays boring. 

The motion blur and drifting in GT7 makes it a lot more arcade-y and fun to me. The physics updates have cars sliding around a lot and shit feels fast in some of these cars.

Got my wheel set up and I'm spinning out a lot. Had to turn on some assists. Will be driving at 100mph and hit some bump on a straight road and the wheel jerks to the side and I gotta get it under control or will spin out. It's pretty intense.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on March 13, 2022, 04:59:44 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/Ac33uizh.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/4pEw0G8.jpg)

Spent all day putting together my somewhere between 70-80lbs wheelstand and direct drive wheel setup. Other than every muscle in my body being sore af, came out pretty well. Shit is too heavy to lift but I can jimmy it to the wall and it doesn't take up much space. Takes about 3-5 mins to setup and about the same to put away which isn't bad and won't keep me from using it when I want to play GT.

Also it works on PC and I have like every PC racer and they all also support VR and I have the Valve Index so with probably some minimal tinkering I can get a VR cockpit thing going in Dirt Rally 1/2, Assetto Corsa, rFactor2, etc... will save that for another weekend.

Played some more GT7. Good stuff, whenever I lose a race it's usually because the AI taps my back at some point when I'm ahead and I completely lose control of the car and spin out. Had it happen a lot and notice it even more with wheel because I'll be driving on a straight and then suddenly feel this tap and the car starts to swerve. AI copying humans and hitting you to get a ahead.

(https://i.imgur.com/nCOP6Rk.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/CMSXanW.jpg)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on March 15, 2022, 01:22:22 AM
You know, I wish there was an option in GT to change which side the steering wheel is on. I drive a lot of Japanese cars in GT and as a USA person I'd like it if the wheel was on the left side visually. I mean when you drive these same Japanese cars in the USA the wheel is on the left. It's just weird to keep switching sides depending on the car you're in. I feel like Forza doesn't do this?

In real life racing, when American drivers drive Japanese cars are the wheels on the left or right?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: chronovore on March 15, 2022, 03:23:40 AM
You know, I wish there was an option in GT to change which side the steering wheel is on. I drive a lot of Japanese cars in GT and as a USA person I'd like it if the wheel was on the left side visually. I mean when you drive these same Japanese cars in the USA the wheel is on the left. It's just weird to keep switching sides depending on the car you're in. I feel like Forza doesn't do this?

In real life racing, when American drivers drive Japanese cars are the wheels on the left or right?

I feel like I should know this, but I do not. My Japanese professional race car driver friend drives with the wheel on the right, in Japan and abroad, in Japanese cars. The only Ford he drove was a UK only model, also right-side drive. Not sure what dictates it other than car type.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on March 17, 2022, 02:19:46 AM
The AI in GT7 is like the worst AI I've ever seen in a driving game. I can't think of any other driving game where the cpu drives into you like you aren't there.

It's pretty infuriating when you're doing some tough mission and you're not allowed to touch another car, the wall, or go off-road and you make a great tight turn and the AI car hits you and you fail for hitting another car :(

Had that happen tonight, also was doing a muscle car speedway race and this fucking blue mustang starts in like 7th or 8th place and ends up in 1st or 2nd sometimes and the AI just runs you the fuck over. Had at least two attempts on turns where it straight out hits me in the rear as I'm turning and spins me out on lap 3 of 3 losing the race.

Hopefully this Sophy AI thing that's supposed to launch later is a hell of a lot better. Or at least make the AI avoid you.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nuitangg on March 18, 2022, 01:12:35 PM
People seem unhappy with gt7.  Bought the 25th anniversary edition like an idiot and still haven't opened it.  Maybe this weekend.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on March 18, 2022, 01:27:17 PM
Its a really good game ruined by greedy nonsense and a baffling need to be always online basically.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on March 18, 2022, 05:48:38 PM
People seem unhappy with gt7.  Bought the 25th anniversary edition like an idiot and still haven't opened it.  Maybe this weekend.

Between the game and the wheel/pedals and wheelstand I spent like $1,300 on it  :(


At least I can use the wheel/wheelstand on Forza on my PC :lol Plus PC sim stuff.


That being said the actual driving in GT7 is great, no load times is game changer, there's a solid amount of tracks and you get like 100 cars in the campaign for free. Graphics are clean and serviceable even if nothing special outside some nice time of day and very rare weather (rain is only on 5 tracks out of the 34). Campaign is fun but short and stops before the high end races (most likely because they'll add more to the campaign as the years go along since they're seeing it as a long term platform). Photo landscapes mode is still really cool to take photos of cars. The license plates look ugly as sin and I don't know why people don't complain about this. Always got to hide the license plates for photos.

I'm weird in that in racing sim games I don't really care about the 50% of the car lineup that are 200mph track race cars. I just want to drive around and race cars that I could actually afford, or afford one day and I'm curious about how they drive irl like a classic Dodge Viper or a Porsche 911 or a Mazda Miata. And I get enough credits in the game that these 100,000 or under cars are pretty affordable. I bought the Tesla Model S, The Subaru Impreza WRX STI, the Honda S2000 already no problem, no grind. I always start off with cars I've actually driven or owned (my rl car ownership was a borrowed Honda Accord -> Impreza RS2.5 -> S2000 -> Model 3), so I'm mostly satisfied with it so far.

The AI kind of sucks though. But then again I think the AI sucks in Forza and Horizon too. You either have a faster car and pass everything or you can't keep up. GT games are basically rpgs where if you die on a boss you just grind some levels (parts) and then you win easily. The only thing that sticks out and why I say the AI sucks here is that they tend to be overaggressive and hit you which with the new physics tends to spin you out and cost the race. Combined with GT series having no rewind button, AI that fucks you over 3 laps in is...bad.

Also I hear the dirt racing is terrible. I've only done one dirt mission and it was pretty bad. But dirt racing is like 1% of the game content.

Oh and the online is kind of a mess. You can enter lobbies and race people whatever which you can make balanced and fun. But there's like 3 daily online races in different tiers and to be competitive you have to have a top-class in the allowed range and then spend a ton fully modding it. The races are usually like slow cheap cars, mid-range cars, race cars, so mostly people are complaining that the latter requires crazy money to buy the best race cars and mod them and the game is extremely stingy on credits. Also online pays jack shit credit-wise so it's more a satisfaction thing than a reasonable way to get credits.

There's also the always online thing which is obviously stupid and bad but I've made my piece with games heading that direction in the industry and it doesn't bother me.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on March 18, 2022, 05:57:17 PM
The dirt racing is shit tbf, the cars bounce around like the track is a bouncy castle, and theres like 3 dirt tracks anyway so its a waste of time.

Its a good thing they're kinda easy compared to some of the other later races in the campaign, where first on the grid has a 30 second plus head start in the same class of car and you can't use upgrade your horsepower or get a faster whip to make up the gap :oreilly
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on March 18, 2022, 06:04:21 PM
I couldn't figure out for the life of me how to do the dirt track in the first magic mountain series of missions. Best I could get is pass one guy and get bronze. This is without braking at all and running pretty ok line/turns? The Jeep is just slow as fuck, I don't know how you're supposed to catch up.

Also when I did that mission set it reminded me how stressful GT missions are if you're going for all golds. Had to give up and just be ok with bronze on that set. Had like 2/3rds golds but a couple were driving me nuts. The last one with the beetle car there's one turn at the end that I cannot do without spinning out or slowing down and both have all the AIs just pass me either way.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on March 20, 2022, 02:05:27 AM
As much as some of the GT7 stuff is very bad (MTX, economy, always-online, AI, dirt), it still does a lot right. Spent a session this morning just reading through some of the museum on car history and reading up on some car profiles and checking out brands and their photoscapes and brand history and doing a few photo shoots in Italy.

There's so much effort and detail in the learning about an enjoying car history and cars, and learning how to drive well with the circuit experiences, the license tests, the missions, etc...

Even the campaign isn't a pushover. In Forza you have rewinds and can adjust the difficulty level but in GT it's just a ramp up that gets tougher and tougher and you gotta learn to drive the tracks well and sometimes you gotta go 5-10 mins straight through multiple laps without making a single fuck up which is tense. I've had way too many times where I took the lead in the final lap and then in one of the last few turns I pushed too hard, spun out, and lost the whole race. It can be kind of stressful because of the concentration and effort it requires but it's also satisfying learning how to take all the turns with the car you're using while pushing your limits.

Definitely a lot good about the game. Hopefully in time they adjust and fix the bad stuff and add more endgame to it to make it a better package overall.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on March 21, 2022, 03:36:55 AM
Yeah, now that I'm done with Horizon and spending more time with GT7, it's a pretty nice game. The endgame grind is what it is, but I swear I'm gonna get a good quality 30-50 hours of it before I get to that point. Just really enjoying doing the tracks over and over until I get them down and get 1st place. With assists off and using a wheel you really gotta learn these tracks. The vertical shift changes in this game with the new physics are really intense can spin you out until you get them down with RW cars.

(https://i.imgur.com/t6eqnhfh.jpg)

Was doing Willow Springs for like 30-45 mins straight with a Corvette Stingray and there's this section right after that downhill S and before the long turn where it goes uphill a bit and curves right. It's a mild curve but I learned if you're going fast and don't want to break you've gotta hit the apex of that rise with your wheels at a right turn angle or the physics of coming down from that hill will spin you out.

Also messing around with the online a bit and learning the tracks with these specific cars for the online races. Got some good lap times down with the Clio and Miata on Tsukubasa.

(https://i.imgur.com/LgAB5Afh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ZYk3ZNnh.jpg)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on March 21, 2022, 07:11:19 AM
local retailer threw this in "free" with a black PS5 controller that was already on sale  :rejoice

done with elden ring, couldn't really stomach going back to horizon straight away (think im 3rd person action game'd out) so it's this and some jrpg i think (ni no kuni 2? that the good shit?)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: tiesto on March 21, 2022, 11:16:19 AM
local retailer threw this in "free" with a black PS5 controller that was already on sale  :rejoice

done with elden ring, couldn't really stomach going back to horizon straight away (think im 3rd person action game'd out) so it's this and some jrpg i think (ni no kuni 2? that the good shit?)

I heard Ni No Kuni 2 was rather disappointing but I haven't played it yet. It's a shame since it looked like it at least fixed the awful combat from the first game (a sore spot on what could've otherwise been one of the top RPGs from the disappointing 360/PS3 gen).

Have you played Yak 7 yet? I think that's overall my favorite RPG from the PS4/5 gen.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tasty on March 21, 2022, 11:54:33 AM
Quote from: Bebpo link=topic=47444.msg3031488#msg3031488
Between the game and the wheel/pedals and wheelstand I spent like $1,300 on it  :(

:mindblown
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on March 22, 2022, 03:22:11 AM
Quote from: Bebpo link=topic=47444.msg3031488#msg3031488
Between the game and the wheel/pedals and wheelstand I spent like $1,300 on it  :(

:mindblown

Eh, it's fun driving with a wheel.

Already put more time into GT7 than any racer since FH4 and will probably pass that pretty quick in game time.

That said GT7 has some weird wheel implementation where it's actually harder to drive with a wheel than a controller because the way the physics handles g-forces you can get spun out pretty easily without assists with a wheel but it's like a light breeze on a controller you don't even notice. Had to use a controller for one of the license tests because it was literally impossible to go down a hill without the car spinning out on a wheel no matter how fast you were going. 5 mph down a hill and the car just spins in circles on a wheel, but try it on a controller and car just drives straight down the hill no problem. For mostly flat races the wheel is fine or cars with good grip or you just turn on some assists with a wheel and they mostly keep you from spinning out.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on March 23, 2022, 12:14:41 AM
local retailer threw this in "free" with a black PS5 controller that was already on sale  :rejoice

done with elden ring, couldn't really stomach going back to horizon straight away (think im 3rd person action game'd out) so it's this and some jrpg i think (ni no kuni 2? that the good shit?)

I heard Ni No Kuni 2 was rather disappointing but I haven't played it yet. It's a shame since it looked like it at least fixed the awful combat from the first game (a sore spot on what could've otherwise been one of the top RPGs from the disappointing 360/PS3 gen).

Have you played Yak 7 yet? I think that's overall my favorite RPG from the PS4/5 gen.

nah i haven't played yak. only yakuza game i've played is 2
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on March 23, 2022, 01:53:02 AM
Finished all the license tests in GT7. I feel like GT7 should be called "elevation & wet roads" the game. Never played another racer in my entire life where elevation changes are so pronounced in vehicle handling. And the wet roads are pretty crazy here. The last license test S10 on a daytime after the rain track is EVIL.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tycoon Padre on March 23, 2022, 07:43:04 AM
Returnal update is out, did two runs last night and the tower seems awesome, way more elaborate than I was expecting on both the gameplay and story fronts. I don't know what Sony is doing, they charge ten bucks for 1800P to 4K PS4 upgrades but then give this away for free, literally zero logic :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on March 23, 2022, 09:55:59 AM
Returnal update is out, did two runs last night and the tower seems awesome, way more elaborate than I was expecting on both the gameplay and story fronts. I don't know what Sony is doing, they charge ten bucks for 1800P to 4K PS4 upgrades but then give this away for free, literally zero logic :lol
Was planning on taking a few hour break from Elden Ring to try and rip through this with some 2p.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on March 23, 2022, 11:30:57 AM
VRR officially announced as coming "in the coming months" to PS5

coming months is fucking vague, what the fuck is so hard about enabling VRR...  :'(
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Kurt Russell on March 23, 2022, 05:54:55 PM
Pre-ordered Ghostwire today. Not a huge fan of pre orders usually, but I'm going to buy it anyhow and I'd like it to be delivered in time for launch day.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on March 23, 2022, 10:30:25 PM
Pre-ordered Ghostwire today. Not a huge fan of pre orders usually, but I'm going to buy it anyhow and I'd like it to be delivered in time for launch day.

I have it preloaded. I adored both TEW games even though I have my doubts this’ll be as fun. Still want to support Tango and :bow Mikami-sama :bow2 though
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on March 23, 2022, 10:51:22 PM
Had a really bad experience with my expensive Fanatec GT7 wheel setup.

I'd bought the Load Cell Kit initially which was out of stock until later this month and was like $165 and supposed to give a better brake pedal and allow the brake pedal to be used as a clutch so you could have a clutch pedal.

Well I got it today and installed it and their load cell pedal is terrible. Spent like 2 hours messing with it trying to get it to work properly but couldn't get past like 75% brake with 130lbs+ pressure on it. So was pretty disappointed gonna have to return it and eat the shipping costs. Oh and having a clutch pedal doesn't matter because without a $350 shifter, you can't use the clutch pedal in GT7! No way to use a button/paddle to shift in combination with a clutch pedal.

But to make it worse, somehow the load cell pedal fried the two normal pedals and both are dead now. So I spent another 2-3 hours screwing and unscrewing stuff and trying a dozen things and all over google and support and nothing, they're dead. So I have an RMA ticket in.

These are both pretty fucking heavy things too, so now I gotta send them back, one for return and one for RMA, eat the shipping costs on the load cell kit and who knows when I'll get replacement pedals for my normal wheel.

And lost a half day dealing with all this stuff.

And I guess GT7 is now gonna sit on pause for a few weeks or whatever until I get my replacement pedals.

What a fucking hassle considering how expensive all this stuff is. Everything was fine until this stupid load cell pedal  :maf
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on March 24, 2022, 02:13:29 PM
Got my copy of Ghostwire today. The Yakuza games must've captured the feel of Tokyo pretty well. So far it felt like an fps set in Kamurocho. Haven't found Kabukicho yet. Hope it's in the game.

Shooting itself felt really basic in the hour I played. Hope it picks up in later sections.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: chronovore on March 24, 2022, 08:29:34 PM
Got my copy of Ghostwire today. The Yakuza games must've captured the feel of Tokyo pretty well. So far it felt like an fps set in Kamurocho. Haven't found Kabukicho yet. Hope it's in the game.

Shooting itself felt really basic in the hour I played. Hope it picks up in later sections.

The limited amount of Yakuza I've played, they've captured both Kabukicho and Dotonbori very well.

From a money-spent and artists'-hours perspective, I keep hoping to see a western take on it some day. I'd like to see a dirtier, more details, less sterile looking Japan.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Polident Hive on March 25, 2022, 10:59:56 AM
RGG Studios really gets its use out of those places. The PS4 Kamurocho/Kabukicho is in five games. Yakuza 7 introduced a large Yokohama map that's already gotten additional use in Judgment 2.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on March 25, 2022, 03:37:27 PM
GT7 gave 1 million credits gift to everyone for the downtime and released an update saying sorry for the fucked up economy and within a month there will be a patch that will start working on fixing it (double payouts for back half races, increase online racing payouts, higher payout endurance races, etc...) plus some new cars and track layouts coming.


You know, I went to my profile page to look at my stats (21 hours game time, 1.4M credits earned so far, [before 1M gift] 365k spent buying cars, 350k spent tuning on existing cars) and I was checking out my friends list and it's interesting seeing how most people aren't really into the community/social/photo stuff in modern GT.

Not a single person on my friends list had given their profile page a cover picture. Almost no one was using a custom livery helment or outfit (one person had a custom helmet), almost no one had shared a single photo! Dark1x was literally the only person on my friends list who had taken any photos in the photo mode or scapes (at least that had publicly shared them).

Idk, I feel like the car enthusiast aspect of GT is one of its better parts, taking photos around the world of cool cars and just like Forza the livery editing/sharing (I don't make anything I just download other people's stuff) for cars/outfits. Kinda surprised most people don't even touch that stuff.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on March 25, 2022, 06:09:58 PM
I have downloaded many hanime liveries for my car's :jgames
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on March 25, 2022, 06:16:17 PM
I have downloaded many hanime liveries for my car's :jgames

I mean, that's like the whole point! 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on March 25, 2022, 06:49:32 PM
are they at least aheago otherwise it doesnt count
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on March 30, 2022, 11:45:56 PM
FYI
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Persona 5 will leave the PS Plus Collection on May 11. Add the game to your game library before then to continue to access it while you have an active PlayStation Plus subscription
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on March 31, 2022, 05:19:19 AM
I haven't really played anything but GT7 since I got it. Economy was an annoyance but it did dole out enough cars through menu books and completing races, it's the endgame/legendary cars that felt bad but it seems quite a bit better now. Game is fantastic otherwise. It's tempting to get a wheel for, maybe when I manage to get a bigger apartment. That wheel with base setup looks pretty good Bebpo. I haven't been this into a racing game for a long time, put maybe 30 hours in FH5 before tiring of it. So much content, but the gameplay loop gaas content madness just never hooked me and gameplay wise it's in limbo between something like Burnout Paradise and Forza Motorsport without hitting like either. I find the traditional focus on tracks and incremental improvement a much more satisfying challenge.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on April 08, 2022, 02:58:59 PM
The GT7 patch is out

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Update Notice (1.11)​
A new update for Gran Turismo 7 has been released. The following is a list of the main features introduced.

Improvements and Adjustments

1.World Circuits
The amount of rewards for events in the latter half of the World Circuit has been increased.
New race events have been added to the World Circuit. The new events are as follows:
 ・World Touring Car 600 Tokyo Expressway East Clockwise
 ・World Touring Car 700 24 Heures du Mans Racing Circuit
 ・World Touring Car 800 Sardegna Road Track A
- Adjusted the rewards for Arcade races and Custom Races

2.Circuit Experience
- Rewards are now provided when clearing all layouts of circuits in Gold or Bronze results. If you have already achieved these results, going into the sector selection screen and exiting with the Exit button will award the prize.

3.Lobby / Sports Mode
The amount of rewards in Lobbies and Daily Races has been increased.
Corrected an issue where spectating while entered in a race in the Lobby did not allow you to switch to the spectator camera.
Changed the Nations Cup and Manufacturer Cup so that the Helmet thumbnail specific to the championship is displayed.
When the room mode is set to ‘Practice/Endurance Race’, adjusted the finish timing when the course setting is set to ‘Time limit’.
Changed the camera movements before races start in Daily Races when the starting method is set to Formation.

4.Mission
Added ‘The Human Comedy’ to Missions, containing 1-hour endurance races. ‘The Human Comedy’ will become playable when the player’s Collector’s Level is 23. Each endurance race event will award up to 1.2 million Cr. per event.
Race information such as the Starting Grid, number of laps or time limit, starting method, etc. are now displayed in the Race event Quick Menu of Missions.
Best records for time limit events and Friend Ranking Records are now saved and displayed in the format of [Ranking/Number of Laps]
Rankings have been reset for the following Time Limit events*
 ・Gone With the Wind - High Speed Ring 30 min.
 ・The Sun Also Rises - Le Mans 24 min.
 ・The Sun Also Rises - Bathurst Gr. 3 Battle

*Already existing best records will only display the ‘Ranking’. Once the same or better result record has been set, it will be saved in the format of ‘Ranking/Number of laps’. For Friend Rankings, if a Bronze or better result is set, it will be saved even if the result is lower than the best record.

5.Game Progression
Raised the maximum cap for earned in-game credits to 100 million Cr.
New ‘Invitations’ received hereafter will have a time limit of 30 days, instead of 14 days.

6.Used Cars / Legendary Cars
The number of cars listed in the lineup at the same time is now increased.

7.Cars
Mazda RX-7 GT-X (FC) '90: Corrected the position and shape of the roll cage installed in ‘GT Auto’.
Toyota Sprinter Trueno 1600GT APEX (S.Shigeno Version): Corrected a part of the rear wheel design.

8.Livery Editor
Corrected livery display issues for the following cars. If the car you are currently using is subject to this, it will be fixed when you go to [GT Auto] -> [Car Customization] -> [Save Style]
 ・Subaru WRX Gr.B Road Car
 ・Ferrari F430 '06
 ・Ferrari F8 Tributo '19

9. Car Physics Simulation
Improved physics when landing from a jump, mainly on dirt tracks.
Corrected an issue where the value of the vehicle speed displayed on the speedometer of other players in online races sometimes differed from the actual vehicle speed.
Corrected an issue where after-fire would not stop during certain operations after tuning the muffler of a Toyota Prius G '09 and Toyota Aqua S '11.

10.Car Settings
Changed the anti-lag system setting from ON/OFF to 3 settings, OFF/Weak/Strong.
Corrected an issue where if you open the car settings after selecting a part in the Tuning Shop but cancelling without purchasing it, it would blank out the created setting sheet name and the settings would be reset.

11.Race
Corrected an issue where time penalties were not being issued properly when short distance short cuts were made or successive short cuts were made.
Corrected an issue where a penalty would always be issued for cutting the white line at Goodwood.
Adjusted the pit stop starting position for the Daytona International Speedway tri-oval.

12.Custom Races
Changed so that Balance of Performance (BoP) setting can be turned on/off when the player’s cars are Gr.1, Gr.2, Gr.3, Gr.4, and Gr.B categories.

13.Rival Cars (AI)
Corrected an issue where rival cars that changed to rain tires in wet condition races after a pit stop would have slow acceleration coming out of the pits.
In online races, applied measures for some cars starting earlier or later during a rolling start due to network issues.

14.Graphics
Improved the image quality of smoke in Race Photos
Corrected an issue where debris during crashes while in cockpit view would enter inside of the car.
Corrected the graphics drawing of smoke when seen through car windows

15.Replays
Until now, the control menu appeared using any button on the controller, but this has been changed so that it will now only appear when using the confirm and cancel buttons.

16.Sound
Music will now be played back in Surround Sound when the audio output mode is set to ‘7.1 ch Surround’ output.
 ・On PlayStation®4, this playback will apply when the connected device is 5.1 ch or 7.1 ch compatible and the ‘Audio Output Mode’ in ‘Options’ is set to ‘7.1 Surround’.
 ・On PlayStation®5 this playback will apply when the connected device is 5.1 h or 7.1 ch compatible and the ‘HDMI Device Type’ on the console is set to ‘AV Amplifier’, and the ‘Number of Channels’ is set to ‘5.1 ch’ or ‘7.1 ch’.
Added [Music Replay Volume Balance] and [Music Replay Master Volume] options to the Sound Volume and the replay options for the Music Replay Playback.
The Music Replay Options can now be closed with the cancel button.

17.Settings
Changed so that [Display Demonstration Ghost] setting inside [Ghost Settings] is displayed only in Licenses and the Circuit Experience.
Added a [Temporary Exposure Setting] to the Quick Menu settings. The [Temporary Exposure Settings] allows you to temporarily adjust the brightness of the screen in races. Exiting the quick menu will return the game to the original exposure setting.

18.Car Collection
- Added 3 new features for moving the cursor.
 ・The △ button will now move the cursor to your current car.
 ・The L2 button or R2 will move the cursor to the next car already acquired.
 ・The □ button will move the cursor to cars with ‘NEW’ labels.

19.GT Auto
- Unified the brightness of replacement light bulbs under [GT Auto] > [Customize Cars] > [Other Parts] > [Lightbulb]

20.Trophy
Corrected the text for the trophy ‘Wheely Good Fun’ to ‘Bought 10 sets of wheels at GT AUTO’

21.Title Screen
Divided the thumbnail image and title text of news so that they are displayed separately.

22.Steering Controllers
- Allocated features to extra buttons that become available when attaching replacement wheels such as the Fanatec Club Sport Steering Wheel Formula V2 on the Fanatec GT DD Pro*.
 ・Assigned the upper right / left paddles on the Fanatec Podium Advanced Paddle Module to turn signals
 ・Assigned the left/right toggle switch to MFD toggle and change features
 ・Assigned the analog stick to head turning
* Extra button assignment is only available when the compatible steering wheel is attached.
When attaching a replacement steering wheel such as the Fanatec ClubSport Steering Wheel Formula V2 on the Fanatec CSL Elite and Fanatec Podium, changed the ‘MFD Change’ function assigned to both left and right toggle switches so that the left toggle switch is assigned to the ‘Switch MFD’ feature.
Various other issues have been addressed.

Thank you for your continued support and please continue to enjoy Gran Turismo 7!

Apparently people are really happy with this update and the payouts for doing the circuit experience (learning each section of a track) are really high one time payouts. People seem to think this patch resolves the endgame credit issue to a large amount.

I mailed out my broken pedals on my wheel finally two days ago after two weeks of terrible customer support from Fanatec. No idea when I'll get a replacement, but I should eventually and then will get back to the game.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 08, 2022, 03:22:01 PM
Yeah the patch is good shit, I'm kinda thinking about dropping the game for a bit though and coming back in a few months when they've hopefully added way more SP content.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on April 13, 2022, 12:20:57 AM
Got my repaired pedals back today. Nice getting back to GT7. I did that Australia course and the swiggly downhill bit is fun.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on April 16, 2022, 02:23:48 AM
Man, the mission mode in this game does not fuck around. Got to the 4th set, but I think I'm out at "do 30 laps in Tsukaba in the rain and don't touch anything even once or slip off the track even an inch for the 30-45 mins this takes or its insta-fail and start over again"

The late start one at the end of set 3 where you have to sit for an entire minute and watch every car start first before you can even play is way too annoying to keep retrying to get gold. I got my bronze on the first try and I'm good.

Game is still pretty damn good, pretty far in the campaign now and enjoying the hell out of learning every track and having great intense races. Some of the time of day stuff is really nice. And yeah that zig-zag bit in Australia's track is probably my favorite track bit so far though I always like Tokyo Xpressway, especially the bunch of 2nd gear turns around the docks.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on April 25, 2022, 11:17:13 PM
Today's GT5 patch adds some events and a few cars, but the biggest change is the physics change for RW drive cars on elevation.

All those bits where I kept spinning out with the DD Pro wheel and had to turn counter-steering on high like license B-9, now with zero counter-steering it's almost impossible to spinout. So feels more like playing on a controller. Maybe it's too easy now but I'll take it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on April 26, 2022, 01:35:34 AM
Also VRR finally coming to PS5 this week.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 26, 2022, 05:06:02 AM
Only took them more than a year...

Edit: At least it means the PS5 version of Elden Ring'll be the best console version to play.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tycoon Padre on April 26, 2022, 09:25:22 AM
Played around with the VRR update. Nice that it's finally here but it's kinda half-assed and janky. Some random findings:

- Most games still run at 60 Hz, and system menus run at a fixed framerate, unlike the Xbox which outputs 120/VRR at all times and then duplicates frames. A lot "messier" as your TV will black out as you switch between modes, and you have to constatntly be pulling up the TV's OSD to ensure that VRR has actually engaged
- the system level toggle doesn't work for everything. Horizon won't engage VRR regardless of your system settings
- Astro Bot stilll only outputs a capped 60, even though it was apparently patched specifically for VRR/HDMI 2.1. Kind of pointless as it never really dropped frames, would have been nice to have it at 120 with the 60 fps cap removed
- the 3 Insomniac games are kinda weird. They're some of the only ones that will output 120 Hz (though you need to enable it for all of them individually). The 40Hz mode still seems to run at 40Hz capped, which is actually worse with VRR on, at least on LG OLEDs - unlike in fixed mode, where the frames are just duplicated x3 to 120, with VRR it keeps swapping between 120 and 80. I'm asssuming this is due to a minor dip to 39 or 38, or maybe a slight boost to 41 or 42, but not great either way as unfortunately that means you'll get weird gamma flickering as the TV engages and disengages LFC
- also weirdly, in their performance modes the Insomniac games seem to run in the 80-100 FPS range. Normally that would just mean that the game is rendering 40 or 50 and duplicating, but these ran at 60 before, so I guess this is the actual figure and that these modes had like 30 FPS worth of overhead that they were losing due to vsync? Either way, really smooth now, definitely the best examples of VRR on the system I tried
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on April 26, 2022, 02:35:29 PM
Yeah, I tried Strangers in Paradise and Elden Ring PS5.

Strangers is slightly better at keeping locked 60fps on quality 4k mode but drop areas still drop and QTE kills still drop,
Elden Ring performance seems slightly better at feeling stable 60fps but still has drops, quality mode still feels like shit.

G-Sync this is not. I don't think this is going to do much for games running unlocked on PS5 that are somewhere between 20-60fps. Like apparently if your game is 48-60fps and never drops below 48fps it should feel smooth and the changes shouldn't be noticeable.

The main usefulness of this version of VRR honestly just seems like for games that are hitting over 60fps in unlocked performance modes that you can now get like 80-90fps and there's no judder from stuff going over 60. So like the Insomniac stuff on performance mode supposedly looks great. Same with DMC5.

But this isn't going to be like PC where you can play stuff at like 40fps and feel smooth if they're unlocked and jumping between 30-50fps.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on April 26, 2022, 03:35:38 PM
Tried out some more stuff.

I can't tell the difference. Hell I tried out Dirt 5 and between Quality, Performance and 120fps mode I can't tell the difference in framerate and the image quality looks like shit across the board with 120fps just being a bit lower res.

Getting that "I'm too old for this shit" feeling
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on April 28, 2022, 03:11:49 AM
GT7 campaign's starting to get tough at the end. Having to keep some assists on so I can push the car harder before it spins out on a turn costing me the race. I feel bad that I drive better and get better times with assists and 3rd person view than I do without assists in cockpit view, but it is what it is. 3rd person view lets me see the side on turns so I can push to the very edge without going over into the grass and counter-steering is basically cheating to keep you steady on weight shifts. I still stick to cockpit with no assists but if I'm stuck I'll switch over, especially since these races are getting longer and longer in the campaign.

Also fuck that whole Pickup Truck menu. I do not want to drive trucks in GT :(

And I still don't get the point of Special Stage Route X in GT. It's so boring driving straight for 2 mins and then slight turn and then straight for 2 mins and then slight turn. I already find oval tracks like Daytona zzz in racing games, but that's even worse.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 28, 2022, 06:16:33 AM
Tried out some more stuff.

I can't tell the difference. Hell I tried out Dirt 5 and between Quality, Performance and 120fps mode I can't tell the difference in framerate and the image quality looks like shit across the board with 120fps just being a bit lower res.

Getting that "I'm too old for this shit" feeling

Did you actually turn it on for games that don't support it through a patch? There's an option for it in the menus.

Edit: I think my Samsung tv also has some tv options you gotta turn on for HDMI 2.1 to work.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on April 28, 2022, 10:24:50 AM
Hope yall stacked your PS+ subscriptions while they were selling for dirt cheap....  :hitler

https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2022/04/ps-plus-pre-paid-cards-dont-work-subs-cant-be-purchased-on-ps-store
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on April 28, 2022, 03:26:33 PM
Tried out some more stuff.

I can't tell the difference. Hell I tried out Dirt 5 and between Quality, Performance and 120fps mode I can't tell the difference in framerate and the image quality looks like shit across the board with 120fps just being a bit lower res.

Getting that "I'm too old for this shit" feeling

Did you actually turn it on for games that don't support it through a patch? There's an option for it in the menus.

Edit: I think my Samsung tv also has some tv options you gotta turn on for HDMI 2.1 to work.

Yeah, it's on. I just don't notice it much though I didn't do on/off direct comparisons.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 28, 2022, 05:32:27 PM
Apparently the VRR in Elden Ring (or any unsupported game for that matter.) only works at 48+ fps. Anytime it drops under it stops working. So any area with a bunch of enemies/effects looks choppy.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Polident Hive on April 29, 2022, 12:36:30 AM
Tried out some more stuff.

I can't tell the difference. Hell I tried out Dirt 5 and between Quality, Performance and 120fps mode I can't tell the difference in framerate and the image quality looks like shit across the board with 120fps just being a bit lower res.

Getting that "I'm too old for this shit" feeling

I felt that when briefly reading about the hot new TV tech, QD OLED. All the setup, calibration, adjustments, newer HDMI cables. VRR and 4k 120hz games are nice, but I'm happy with my LG OLED of five years. None of this feels as crucial as upgrading from 1080p to 4K (+OLED). Maybe that's my ignorance speaking.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on April 29, 2022, 02:49:01 AM
Yeah, what I'm getting from it is that VRR really only excels in two situations:

One is when you're game is really close to 60fps but not quite there and drops to 50/55 at times, VRR will smooth out the 48-60fps range. This is pretty rare and it sounds like it's mostly stuff like RE8 Village and Ghostwire Tokyo. Elden Ring performance mode it helps keep it at 60fps but still drops a lot because you get drops below 48fps.

The other more useful scenario seems to be for games that are hitting 60fps+ easily and are unlocked. Before if your game was jumping around between 60-75-90-120 constantly it wouldn't feel smooth on 120hz sets. Now it blends the 60-120 range no matter what the framerate is and stuff like Spiderman or Ratchet feels really great. You specifically need devs to have an uncapped framerate mode though to take advantage of this.

Unfortunately as the gen goes along I feel like there's going to be fewer and fewer games pushing 60-120fps range but for smaller titles it might be nice. I feel like Returnal would benefit from an uncapped framerate mode.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 29, 2022, 03:30:55 AM
Unreal 5 stuff is meant to be targeting 30fps. The 4K/120hz dream is still far away.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 29, 2022, 08:40:28 AM
https://twitter.com/aitaikimochi/status/1519948972000899072

:leon
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on April 29, 2022, 08:59:07 AM
https://twitter.com/aitaikimochi/status/1519948972000899072

:leon
:tocry
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on April 29, 2022, 07:36:28 PM
Fuck GT7's end of campaign is intense hard af racing.

Just finished menu 32 with Porsche limited to 650pp and that 5 laps at the Spa IN THE RAIN vs hard ass super competitive AI and then NURBURGRING IN THE RAIN right after...driving in the rain at high speeds with a wheel & pedals in manual gear shifting is like the most intense racing experience I've had in ages.

Took my 3rd place wins by a millisecond and moved on.

For me, GT7 has been a really good game. Not sure how much I'll play after the campaign. Still have a bunch of mission mode stuff but man that stuff is so frustrating, plus online, extra events to clear, and cars to try out.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on April 29, 2022, 08:20:37 PM
Yeah, what I'm getting from it is that VRR really only excels in two situations:

One is when you're game is really close to 60fps but not quite there and drops to 50/55 at times, VRR will smooth out the 48-60fps range. This is pretty rare and it sounds like it's mostly stuff like RE8 Village and Ghostwire Tokyo. Elden Ring performance mode it helps keep it at 60fps but still drops a lot because you get drops below 48fps.
Yeah this is what I'm experiencing so far. Elden Ring still gets pretty framey because it's dropping below the fps threshold.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on April 29, 2022, 09:31:05 PM
Fuck, I thought the GT7 campaign was 34 menus long. Just hit 34 and nope, it's 39. Yeah I'm not trying to finish it tonight. These races are long and super intense.

Whoever said the campaign was "short", I mean it's not the longest thing ever, but I'll be surprised if I'm not at 50 hours by the time I'm done and that's with only doing the first 3 sets of missions out of like 7 or 8. And only a few online races and no circuit experiences outside the required one in the campaign.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on May 06, 2022, 02:48:37 AM
On the 2nd to last menu book in GT7.

This is the first racing game where I've ever "got" the fun of the ring. When you learn the track and you're racing intense fast races shifting and sliding and finding spots to pass cars, it's a crazy fun and intense track.

Overall GT7 has a hell of a lot of great fun tracks. I think, especially with a FFB wheel & pedals and paddle shifting, this is the most fun racing game I've played since PGR2. Probably my GoTY so far for 2022. The racing is just so damn good.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on May 08, 2022, 03:54:34 AM
This final GT7 Championship is intense af.

I don't think you can save during a championship? Finished the first two races, and put it in rest mode. Probably finish the campaign out tomorrow. Amazing game.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 08, 2022, 06:36:23 AM
It saves after each race

I use that championship to grind cred's when I need to, there are more efficient ways sure, but I'd rather do 5 different races than grind the same track over and over
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on May 08, 2022, 08:15:55 PM
It saves after each race

I use that championship to grind cred's when I need to, there are more efficient ways sure, but I'd rather do 5 different races than grind the same track over and over

The final race (nurburging in the dark) is really, really hard. Been retrying for the last 30 min. Keep fucking up at different points on good runs and once I spin out I just just pause it and hit retry and don't even try to recover.

It's weird, I've done the ring in fast cars a ton of times and this is just a little bit faster at 800PP vs 700PP runs, but for whatever reason it's kicking my ass. I'm using the Porsche living legend car that came with the pre-order stuff game and power restricting it down to 800pp.

Gonna take a break and clear my mind and come back and try to beat this.

Appropriate stage for a final race in the campaign.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on May 08, 2022, 09:02:52 PM
Took 2nd, I'll live with it. Got 1st on the rest so got the championship.

Had 2 spins on that run but recovered quick enough to not have to reset. First one was downshifting too quick on a downhill :( Meant to go to 2nd but went to 1st and spun the car.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 08, 2022, 10:26:10 PM
You should've used the group 3 supra with racing soft tyres :shh

The Subaru they added in the last update is also excellent for that championship.

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on May 08, 2022, 10:38:01 PM
I've never really understood what the GR1-4 things mean.

Like there are all these hyper cars with 900PP but they aren't GR1/2/3/4, are GR cars better? The Porsche I was using wasn't a GR car, was a hypercar with racing hard tires.

I have a few GR4 cars, a few GR3 cars, and I won a GR1 car from the final ending. Don't have any GR2 cars and not sure where you even get those.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 09, 2022, 12:53:07 AM
The group 3-4 cars are the track versions
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Sho Nuff on May 09, 2022, 09:51:38 PM
How's stock over there? In Japan it's still fucked, street price is $800 for one of these goddamn things. Unobtanium.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on May 09, 2022, 11:00:14 PM
How's stock over there? In Japan it's still fucked, street price is $800 for one of these goddamn things. Unobtanium.

Seems about the same.  Still not something you can buy for regular price without trying to queue up when stock is offered.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on May 10, 2022, 07:23:46 AM
I think there was one for sale in the UK a couple weeks ago.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Polident Hive on May 16, 2022, 05:54:40 PM
Am I imagining things or does is the dualsense battery life worse than the dual shock 4?

Haven't actually played many PS5 apps on my PS5. Tend to use the DS4 with PS4 apps, just because. Playing a PS5 game, it's dropping to one bar after every two to four sessions. If I had to estimate, it's 5 to 7 hours? It's pretty bad on DS4 too, but isn't giving low battery until close to 10.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on May 16, 2022, 06:37:13 PM
Am I imagining things or does is the dualsense battery life worse than the dual shock 4?

Haven't actually played many PS5 apps on my PS5. Tend to use the DS4 with PS4 apps, just because. Playing a PS5 game, it's dropping to one bar after every two to four sessions. If I had to estimate, it's 5 to 7 hours? It's pretty bad on DS4 too, but isn't giving low battery until close to 10.

Yeah, DS4 battery life sucked and DS5 battery life is slightly worse. Can barely last through an all day gaming session. If I'm gonna play all day on a weekend or something I'll charge it when I take breaks. Otherwise I just charge it nightly like a phone.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Kurt Russell on May 18, 2022, 05:57:11 AM
So my PS5 started dying.

I was playing PS5 native No Mans Sky and the whole thing just completely shut down with no warning as if it had lost power. No beeps, no warnings, just off. The entire console was unresponsive until I physically removed the power cable and re-inserted. The back of the PS5 near the HDMI socket was almost uncomfortably hot to touch. This happened twice more, both times playing NMS.

Seems like a clear-cut case of overheating, probably as a result of the currently warm temperatures and the fact that I moved the PS5 into a semi-enclosed unit beneath my TV a few months ago. Not much I can really do to mitigate it other than moving it out into the open again and perhaps taking the case off and seeing if the fan has any dust on it (although I only did this a couple of months ago when I added an M2 drive).

My immediate fix was to buy a stand to raise the PS5 to increase airflow around the console and to install an additional exhaust fan on the back of the PS5. So far, the combination of these two things has worked and I haven't had any hard shutdowns since over a prolonged period of time.

I used this aftermarket stand to raise a few cms of clearance--> https://amzn.to/3lhGi2Z (I actually think it looks really good and prefer it to the stock Sony base)

I used this aftermarket cooler--> https://amzn.to/3LjiLJz ...It clips onto the back of the console and is powered by the USB socket. It's actually quite well designed and includes a replacement USB socket so you don't lose connectivity. It has a separate on/off switch, but for me it works automatically when I turn the PS5 on. I see from Amazon reviews that some have been complaining that it doesn't work automatically, but I'm guessing this is down to how the USB power delivery is configured in the settings menu. One thing about the fan - it's noisy. Not quite as noisy as my PS4 Pro was, but still loud enough to notice. I'll probably just use it through the summer as it really has been quite effective at preventing my shutdowns so far and I can feel that it's doing a decent job of pushing out a lot more additional warm air, which is preventing the console itself from getting as hot as it was.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on May 18, 2022, 08:05:41 AM
I moved the PS5 into a semi-enclosed unit beneath my TV a few months ago.

You should also wrap it in a blanket to make sure it's as comfy as possible (https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.792449802.0161/flat,128x128,075,f-pad,128x128,f8f8f8.jpg)

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on May 18, 2022, 10:56:14 AM
(https://www.computersall.nl/img/cms/ps5/overheat/your-ps5-is-too-hot-alert.jpeg)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Kurt Russell on May 18, 2022, 11:01:08 AM
You should also wrap it in a blanket to make sure it's as comfy as possible (https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.792449802.0161/flat,128x128,075,f-pad,128x128,f8f8f8.jpg)
Meh. I can either have a wife and a PS5 in a unit, or a wife and no PS5. :-\

(https://www.computersall.nl/img/cms/ps5/overheat/your-ps5-is-too-hot-alert.jpeg)

yeah - the thing is that didn't happen at all for me. I just went from playing a game to complete shut down. Didn't even get any artifacts or stuttering either. Also the fans weren't loud and in overdrive. It just went from playing the game to.. off and needing a drive rebuild.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on May 18, 2022, 11:26:05 AM
That sucks, hopefully the stand fixed it for you.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Polident Hive on May 18, 2022, 12:45:15 PM
Might’ve read Sony were tuning the fan curve? For a Sony console it’s near silent. After all the jet engine complaints on the PS4, they’re running the fans at low RPM?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Kurt Russell on May 19, 2022, 05:25:50 AM
That sucks, hopefully the stand fixed it for you.

Seems all good now. Weird that the only game it was happening in was No Mans Sky. I platinumed Ghostwire and have played a handful of other PS5 native titles on it with no weirdness at all. All I can think is that the ambient temps have increased over the last couple of weeks to the point where the PS5 is affected.

Might’ve read Sony were tuning the fan curve? For a Sony console it’s near silent. After all the jet engine complaints on the PS4, they’re running the fans at low RPM?

Yup. I was surprised that the fans aren't running louder give the amount of heat building up. Even when it was close to failing, the machine was still silent. What a good boy.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on May 23, 2022, 04:47:44 AM
My PS5 started making a 1 second grinding noise when I boot it from rest mode each time.

It's the kind of noise of a disc drive starting to spin...except I don't have a disc in the drive.
It's the kind of noise that a traditional HDD makes when starting to spin to access...except the PS5 uses an SSD.

I guess it could be the fans starting up. Probably best guess and they've got a bit of dust or something. Hope it doesn't lead to a PS5 death.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on May 26, 2022, 03:42:10 AM
New GT7 update adds post-ending single player mode.

3 new menu books with new events including GR1 series. Also another 3 cars added and New Orleans photoscapes added to photo mode. Otherwise pretty minor updates. But nice to see they're expanding the single player campaign post-ending. If they keep at it, will load the game up a few times a year and get DLC sized SP expansions to play.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on May 26, 2022, 03:14:42 PM
Got tired waiting and of playing mulitplatform games on last gen, so I got the cheapest sealed PS5s available from faux-sellers  :derp

But since I sometimes write reviews professionally, I can get more money back through taxes than I overpaid. Socialism :rejoice
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on June 01, 2022, 01:12:13 PM
(https://blog.playstation.com/tachyon/2022/05/d9fe41a7c37de2e556170d4f810afb49c1105c86.jpg)

Quote
Nearly 30 minutes of announcements and updates from the world of PlayStation.  We’ll have some exciting reveals from our third-party partners, plus a sneak peek at several games in development for PlayStation VR2.
If they drop some Astrobot, the cup will be filled.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on June 01, 2022, 07:55:14 PM
VR  :snore :boring
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on June 01, 2022, 07:59:12 PM
GoW Ragnorak is supposed to be announced for a September release any day now.

You'd think it'd be in this State of Play but otoh it seems like it's focused on PSVR2 and Guerilla's Horizon VR game, so idk. Ragnorak just got rated for release in Korea and a bunch of tie-in merch leaked with September release dates.

Need a trailer to make me care about Ragnorak since I really didn't like the last one (zzz open-world game which will hold up even worse after Elden Ring) but I like my Sony Dad Walking Sim AAA games, so I need some spectacle to reel me back in.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on June 02, 2022, 12:01:49 AM
Guessing they'll have some more FFXVI too.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 02, 2022, 12:37:52 AM
Just want to see Final Fantasy.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 02, 2022, 03:42:57 AM
Hot ass prediction: no final fantasy
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on June 02, 2022, 04:31:26 AM
People still care about final fantasy? 🤣
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 02, 2022, 05:05:30 AM
This one is starring budget brand Chris Redfield.

Clive Rosfield.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on June 02, 2022, 05:08:31 AM
People still care about final fantasy? 🤣

yes
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on June 02, 2022, 05:35:58 AM
But whyyy
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: archnemesis on June 02, 2022, 06:57:16 AM
But whyyy
Every now and then there is still a great Final Fantasy game. The FF7 remake exceeded my expectations by far.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Polident Hive on June 02, 2022, 08:52:31 AM
Out of the loop here but is this direct meant to be the E3 conference? In terms of scale of announcements.

Is it too soon for Ghost of Tsushima 2?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 02, 2022, 09:43:26 AM
Seeing as it took Sucker Punch about 6 years to make the first I'd say so.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on June 02, 2022, 01:00:41 PM
As much as I enjoyed Ghost, I'd prefer that SP made another new IP.  Jin's story was told decently enough.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on June 02, 2022, 06:05:17 PM
RE4 and Village coming to VR!  PSVR2 confirmed buy for me!!
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Polident Hive on June 02, 2022, 06:09:21 PM
RE4 getting a full remake just makes me feel old. I want to try the VR version but it’s exclusive to the Facebook headset.

Cyberpunk Cat Stealth looks cool.

So that wasn’t Dead Space…

Thought this was gonna be a new Final Fight.

Why did I spend time watching this
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on June 02, 2022, 06:12:32 PM
Spider-man Remastered stand alone coming to PC?  Haha fuck off, Sony.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on June 02, 2022, 06:25:55 PM
FFXVI now  8)

this was a shadow-dropped e3 conference, basically.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on June 02, 2022, 06:31:42 PM
That was one of their better showcases.  I knew they'd bring Village to VR... Been waiting for that news since it released.   :hyper
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on June 02, 2022, 06:32:50 PM

So that wasn’t Dead Space…

My initial thought was a new Riddick reboot without Vin.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Polident Hive on June 02, 2022, 06:51:55 PM
In the span of a minute I worked myself up into believing Capcom was reviving Final Fight to being crushed. Somehow imagined an open world beat em up based on two seconds of footage. At least I’ll always have SOR4.


So that wasn’t Dead Space…

My initial thought was a new Riddick reboot without Vin.

Could be making this up but that series is in rights limbo. They got delisted on GOG and other digital stores. Shame. Xbox game rocked.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on June 02, 2022, 07:18:25 PM
Where da fuck is Ragnorak?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: benjipwns on June 02, 2022, 07:25:19 PM
My initial thought was a new Riddick reboot without Vin.

Could be making this up but that series is in rights limbo. They got delisted on GOG and other digital stores. Shame. Xbox game rocked.

It's because Atari and Starbreeze both went bankrupt. I imagine Vin's company is the only one in position to unify the rights by buying them (for peanuts) off the corpse of Atari but he doesn't seem to care enough. If Koch Media had gotten the rights when it put Starbreeze back together they would have put it back on the stores.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 02, 2022, 11:08:38 PM
Very solid showcase of games.

I’m skeptical of many of the games, but most of them look like games I want to play.

But I will say I wanted to come out swinging for 16 and instead I’m kind of disappointed.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 03, 2022, 04:31:47 AM
I'm not too sure I'm that hot on what they showed of FF16 :fbm
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on June 03, 2022, 08:48:07 AM
I'm WAY more interested in FFVIIR Part 2 than XVI.  :doge

I mean, I guess it looks ok... But like 15, it was a wait and play later on sale feel. 

Capcom did steal the show... The nail in the coffin would/will be when they finally reveal Dragon's Dogma 2.

It didn't register to me till yesterday that this is technically E3 season.  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 04, 2022, 06:39:17 PM
16 doesn't look like anything I'd want from a FF game. I'm extremely disappointed.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 04, 2022, 06:52:41 PM
I'd need to a slice of some actual gameplay and exploration etc, but the trailer made it seem like medieval DMC lite, which is kinda ehh to me :yeshrug

You want the sense of an epic adventure from a big RPG trailer imo and that one didn't give me any, just some flashy looking battles.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Kurt Russell on June 05, 2022, 07:03:42 PM
I'm waiting for the reveal of the mystery VR2 project Kojima is working on.

I'd honestly take Death Stranding 2 VR. Shit would be terrifying.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 06, 2022, 10:43:41 PM
I still love FF and will no doubt play 16. A more serious FF with good writing and less teen angst is always something I’ve wanted. I do hope there is a bit more “light” in this game. The lack of party members is a bit disappointing as party management is my favorite part of a jrpg. So I’m a bit cautious with that. And as much as I like Japanese character action games, it’s not really what I’m looking for in a FF game. So I guess my problem is a expected to be knocked out and instead saw a cool looking game worthy of FF’s pedigree, but also with some reservations. But I really want a single player FF to fire on all cylinders.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on June 27, 2022, 03:02:10 PM
"We made a Slim PS5!!1!!!"*


*You just need some stuff on the side that's bigger than the OG console


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he6xyl_MHXY
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on July 06, 2022, 09:38:59 AM
It's officially coming this November 9th! (for now)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIQGI36BxDE
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 06, 2022, 11:40:23 AM
looks kind of bleh overall and not much that better than I remember the first one looking graphically, no where close to how good Horizon looks imo.

I'll play it on soypass when they release it on there in 2026 :trumps
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on July 06, 2022, 11:45:47 AM
I keep forgetting about Horizon 2.  :lol  Guess I'll get to it when it drops to $30 this holiday instead.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 06, 2022, 11:51:09 AM
Sony putting out Horizon a week before Elden Ring and a couple of weeks before their own Gran Turismo 7 was so fucking stupid, they should have held it off for May. Surely that has cos them a more than decent chunk of full price sales.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Polident Hive on July 06, 2022, 08:58:42 PM
Bought some USB PC fans and taped them around my TV cabinet. The existing air flow slots weren’t cutting it. It’d get toasty unless the door was fully open. Even with that inconvenience, it’d trap a ton of air. Fans exhausting hot air is working well for now.

Also, first time I moved the PS5 since launch. Immediately the stand falls off. Brilliant design needing it to sit flat.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on July 07, 2022, 10:18:56 AM
If I had to lay mine flat, our cat would never stay off of it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on July 08, 2022, 11:10:52 PM
I keep forgetting about Horizon 2.  :lol  Guess I'll get to it when it drops to $30 this holiday instead.

i went back to it yesterday, realised I'd nearly finished the game but had barely done a single sidequest in my rush to finish it before elden ring came out. this game is so tight. yeah it's just a slightly fresher interpretation of a template laid out by ubisoft, but it's damn fun to play still. spend the last ten hours just doing sidequests refamiliarizing myself and respec'ing aloy. love the quality of life features in this game,  infinite respecs, custom game difficulty. production design is next level. glad i finally picked it up again
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on July 10, 2022, 04:20:12 AM
spent the day playing Returnal. finally truly clicked. I liked it immediately but it was hard and enigmatic, still pushed through phrike and then died promptly in biome 2. played a little more but not much. watched the fextralife tips vid and did a more methodical run after a break and ended up pushing through the next few biomes. this game is something else. really cool stuff
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on July 10, 2022, 04:37:29 AM
spent the day playing Returnal. finally truly clicked. I liked it immediately but it was hard and enigmatic, still pushed through phrike and then died promptly in biome 2. played a little more but not much. watched the fextralife tips vid and did a more methodical run after a break and ended up pushing through the next few biomes. this game is something else. really cool stuff
They really utilized the PS5 features well... Which makes me wonder, when Returnal comes to PC, they'll be missing out on the DS haptic gameplay..  I so need to get back to this once I finally finish Elden Ring.  Besides the brutal rogue element, the game's solid AF.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on July 10, 2022, 05:21:09 AM
totally. I was surprised how everything just kinda fell into place and I ripped through it once I had a game plan on how to take advantage of everything at my disposal. a lot of trial and error too and generally just really getting to know selenes moveset. think it was good taking a break to play forbidden west yesterday
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on July 10, 2022, 02:17:55 PM
spent the day playing Returnal. finally truly clicked. I liked it immediately but it was hard and enigmatic, still pushed through phrike and then died promptly in biome 2. played a little more but not much. watched the fextralife tips vid and did a more methodical run after a break and ended up pushing through the next few biomes. this game is something else. really cool stuff
They really utilized the PS5 features well... Which makes me wonder, when Returnal comes to PC, they'll be missing out on the DS haptic gameplay..  I so need to get back to this once I finally finish Elden Ring.  Besides the brutal rogue element, the game's solid AF.

Why wouldn't haptic feedback be available if you use a DS5 controller?

Also will take higher resolution options and better/higher framerates over that any day. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on July 10, 2022, 05:34:08 PM
spent the day playing Returnal. finally truly clicked. I liked it immediately but it was hard and enigmatic, still pushed through phrike and then died promptly in biome 2. played a little more but not much. watched the fextralife tips vid and did a more methodical run after a break and ended up pushing through the next few biomes. this game is something else. really cool stuff
They really utilized the PS5 features well... Which makes me wonder, when Returnal comes to PC, they'll be missing out on the DS haptic gameplay..  I so need to get back to this once I finally finish Elden Ring.  Besides the brutal rogue element, the game's solid AF.
Why wouldn't haptic feedback be available if you use a DS5 controller?
Good question... does the DS5 function the same way when you just plug and play it to PC versions of the game?  I just assumed it wouldn't, but who knows.  Besides Astrobot, not sure what other games really use the haptics that truly play as part of the gameplay, as Returnal does.
Also will take higher resolution options and better/higher framerates over that any day.
Well, that any day will have to wait a year or two, sure.  And even then, one will have to pay full price for a year or two old game. :umad Something which Nintender folk should be use to though.  :betty  :fbm
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Polident Hive on July 10, 2022, 06:16:50 PM
spent the day playing Returnal. finally truly clicked. I liked it immediately but it was hard and enigmatic, still pushed through phrike and then died promptly in biome 2. played a little more but not much. watched the fextralife tips vid and did a more methodical run after a break and ended up pushing through the next few biomes. this game is something else. really cool stuff

I wound up “beating” it the other day. Insofar as it’s a roguelike and I only managed to finish a full run. The game keeps throwing you for a loop and lends to that alien feeling. Somebody who puts several dozens of hours across dozens of runs in could acclimate. For me, it never lost that vibe of being in a hostile unknown world. Any time I felt comfortable, it’d knock me off balance. Boy is it unforgiving in the late game.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on July 11, 2022, 11:16:40 AM
And even then, one will have to pay full price for a year or two old game. :umad

You've got too much Sony on the brain, my friend.  If it doesn't release at a lower price, it will be discounted from other sellers and/or the price will be slashed soon enough.
:bolo
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on July 11, 2022, 02:31:10 PM
And even then, one will have to pay full price for a year or two old game. :umad

You've got too much Sony on the brain, my friend.  If it doesn't release at a lower price, it will be discounted from other sellers and/or the price will be slashed soon enough.
:bolo
Why is that statement Sony specific, other than Sony having limited exclusivity?  This is everything gaming, other than Nintendo on the brain, brother... This was a deliberate jab at Nintendo's shit tier price gouging.
 :sistine
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on July 11, 2022, 02:47:31 PM
But you're talking about Returnal!

:huh
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on July 11, 2022, 02:56:52 PM
But you're talking about Returnal!

:huh
Returnal looks eye popping and runs like butter on PS5, not sure you'd see much difference with an even higher framerate and resolution...

Now, some Metroid mods?  Now we talkin' PC ftw.  :ohyeah :phil
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on July 11, 2022, 03:06:57 PM
:goldberg
Returnal looks eye popping and runs like butter on PS5, not sure you'd see much difference with an even higher framerate and resolution...

I pray one day that this poor, lost soul will experience superior input at 120hz or greater at 4K or higher.
 :preach
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on July 11, 2022, 03:45:32 PM
:goldberg
Returnal looks eye popping and runs like butter on PS5, not sure you'd see much difference with an even higher framerate and resolution...

I pray one day that this poor, lost soul will experience superior input at 120hz or greater at 4K or higher.
 :preach
If only my eye sight got better with age...  :lol :tocry

I definitely won't see that in my lifetime if I stick with Nintendo.  :betty
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on July 14, 2022, 12:51:13 PM
Holy shit did not expect to see this email today

(https://scontent.ftol2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/293227776_10159004816558473_1971405408049860004_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_s960x960&_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=6rDjj2e4OtUAX-ThA3R&tn=TqerQAVw0Rul2EnC&_nc_ht=scontent.ftol2-1.fna&oh=00_AT_IExAePpgqtqhBj3nFcasotjD3bfRliA0aH8A2NW7JzA&oe=62D57B79)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on July 14, 2022, 01:31:51 PM
Holy shit did not expect to see this email today

(https://scontent.ftol2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/293227776_10159004816558473_1971405408049860004_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_s960x960&_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=6rDjj2e4OtUAX-ThA3R&tn=TqerQAVw0Rul2EnC&_nc_ht=scontent.ftol2-1.fna&oh=00_AT_IExAePpgqtqhBj3nFcasotjD3bfRliA0aH8A2NW7JzA&oe=62D57B79)

Always thought your more of an Xbox man, but good for you, have fun man!
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on July 14, 2022, 01:45:53 PM
Gotta play FF16 and Remake 2
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on July 14, 2022, 03:23:31 PM
Kinda surprised GoW Ragnorak is 4k/30fps and something less/60fps on PS5. The tiny amount of in-game footage in the first reveal trailer just looked like the last game graphically. Not like a Horizon 1 -> FW graphical jump.

Hopefully this means Ragnorak will actually be visually impressive. They really need another gameplay trailer showing off some cool visuals.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 14, 2022, 03:37:05 PM
I'd rather they focus on making the gameplay more fun. Just tweaking the timers on the cooldown skills'd help a lot. Or just tie those skills to a rage meter were good play gets rewarded with cool skills. Cut down on the walking talking sections. The climbing is so automated it might as well not be in the game, so either get rid of it or make it actual gameplay.

I'd rather have any of those changes than more shiny graphics.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on July 14, 2022, 03:43:06 PM
Sure, better gameplay would be great,

But God of War 1-3 just had ok gameplay but the epic scope of the visual encounters made them impressive. GoW 2018 lost that in its perspective change. Really hoping Ragnorak brings back some of the epic large scale visual encounters of the old games.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 14, 2022, 04:24:46 PM
Holy shit did not expect to see this email today

(https://scontent.ftol2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/293227776_10159004816558473_1971405408049860004_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_s960x960&_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=6rDjj2e4OtUAX-ThA3R&tn=TqerQAVw0Rul2EnC&_nc_ht=scontent.ftol2-1.fna&oh=00_AT_IExAePpgqtqhBj3nFcasotjD3bfRliA0aH8A2NW7JzA&oe=62D57B79)

Always thought your more of an Xbox man, but good for you, have fun man!

Did you not see that he has every PSOne platinum trophy in existence!!!!! (six)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on July 14, 2022, 04:36:22 PM
Gotta play FF16 and Remake 2
And go down PS memory lane with Astro's Playroom too!  :aweshum
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Polident Hive on July 14, 2022, 08:01:26 PM
What I want from GoWR on PS5 is less squeezing through gaps to mask loading time. Don’t know how they’ll manage when there’s parity with PS4.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on July 14, 2022, 09:23:54 PM
FYI the Horizon 2 is a code, if anyone wants to buy it from me let me know. I already played the PS4 version  :brain
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on July 18, 2022, 07:01:48 PM
Got my first PS5 platinum - a save transferred over from FF7R  8)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nuitangg on July 18, 2022, 07:31:27 PM
Free 6 months of Apple TV plus.  I think you have until the 22nd.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on July 18, 2022, 07:36:11 PM
Miss me with that promotional shit, I'm here to play PS1 games
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BikeJesus on July 21, 2022, 11:11:53 PM
I hope the Last of Us remake includes some of the AI that they falsely advertised the game as having.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF0EaH73ee4
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on July 22, 2022, 12:28:45 AM
Astro Playroom was nothing but normie nostalgia

All that jerking off over itself and not a single mention of Jersey Devil
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tuckers Law on July 22, 2022, 07:50:43 AM
I didn’t even bother with the game, think I immediately deleted that shit from my PS-quintuple because RDR2 and FF7R alone eat up a fucking shitload of drive space.

I’m still somewhat convinced the AstroBot VR fans greatly oversell that game, though I am open to trying it if I ever get the PSVR 2.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on July 22, 2022, 11:54:17 AM
Nah it was a short cute little game. I enjoyed the Nostalgia, but it wasn't *my* nostalgia

No Maximo, no Jersey Devil, no Tenchu, no The Bouncer!

6 Wild ARMs games and it was relegated to a trophy name

Normie shit like Death Stranding, Horizon, etc

*spit*
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on July 22, 2022, 12:24:15 PM
Is there even 'nostalgia' for those games or are they just fun easter eggs
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on July 22, 2022, 01:13:09 PM
The entire game is just easter eggs and collecting 3d models of all the plastic shit sony made
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on July 22, 2022, 01:24:23 PM
It was a mostly a showcase game, not just for the PS legacy, but the possibilities with the DS5.  I found it hard to not smile most the time playing it.  After playing Rescue Mission too, Team Asobi is going to bring the fire with Astrobot’s next entry.  This was just a freebie pack in demo… But a solid one at that.

Sure, they could've crammed in shit, like Blasto and other forgotten titles (mine were more Devil Dice and Alundra) but they're not there... It is what it is.  :trumps
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on July 22, 2022, 02:12:54 PM
I won't stand for any debasing of either Astrobot game. Best games Sony 1st party has made in the last 20 years.

The platforming controls are tight, the level design is great, the art style and graphics are awesome, the music is awesome and it has tons of heart. Yeah the PS5 pack-in one is very short, but it's not supposed to be a full game. It's a mini-game and it's great. Can't wait for the full length sequel and Astrobot VR2.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on July 22, 2022, 02:15:44 PM
I won't stand for any debasing of either Astrobot game. Best games Sony 1st party has made in the last 20 years.

The platforming controls are tight, the level design is great, the art style and graphics are awesome, the music is awesome and it has tons of heart. Yeah the PS5 pack-in one is very short, but it's not supposed to be a full game. It's a mini-game and it's great. Can't wait for the full length sequel and Astrobot VR2.
:respect
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tuckers Law on July 22, 2022, 02:57:15 PM
I refuse to pull my psvr out of storage to try the first Astro bot, that thing belongs to the dust mites and spiders now.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on July 22, 2022, 03:41:04 PM
I refuse to pull my psvr out of storage to try the first Astro bot, that thing belongs to the dust mites and spiders now.

Hopefully PSVR2 will be backwards compatible. Either that or they port Astrobot VR1 over early on.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on July 22, 2022, 04:43:15 PM
I refuse to pull my psvr out of storage to try the first Astro bot, that thing belongs to the dust mites and spiders now.

Hopefully PSVR2 will be backwards compatible. Either that or they port Astrobot VR1 over early on.
This is the million dollar question for me...  Wish they'd make it clear beforehand, but they're being obnoxiously silent about it like they were with PS5 being BC with PS4.  Plus, weren't they wanting to launch that this holiday??  It seems they're being quiet about it too.   I dunno.

A lot of the games go on sale more often now with pretty low prices... I can't help but to fear it won't be BC because of this... at least, not with most games...  I can see only a handful of games, like Rescue Mission, Blood & Truth and Moss Books being "updated" to be PSVR2 compatible, but not all things.. 
 :ufup If you want me to keep buying PSVR games, Sony, you're not helping atm.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on July 22, 2022, 04:52:49 PM
Hopefully PSVR2 will be backwards compatible. Either that or they remaster Astrobot VR1 early on for $70 dollars.

FTFY
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on July 22, 2022, 05:37:31 PM
Hopefully PSVR2 will be backwards compatible. Either that or they remaster Astrobot VR1 early on for $70 dollars.

FTFY
I'd so buy that.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on July 22, 2022, 09:21:06 PM
Hopefully PSVR2 will be backwards compatible. Either that or they remaster Astrobot VR1 early on for $70 dollars.

FTFY
No it will cost $69.99
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on July 23, 2022, 04:32:21 AM
I didn’t even bother with the game, think I immediately deleted that shit from my PS-quintuple because RDR2 and FF7R alone eat up a fucking shitload of drive space.

I’m still somewhat convinced the AstroBot VR fans greatly oversell that game, though I am open to trying it if I ever get the PSVR 2.
Now hold up... You're telling me you got a PSVR and haven't tried Rescue Mission yet?  If so, you need to get on that.  Rescue Mission is the real playing Mario 64 for the first time deal.  Go dust that thing off and play it!
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on July 24, 2022, 07:13:42 PM
Found Returnal for $28 at a store
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tuckers Law on July 25, 2022, 11:16:57 AM
I didn’t even bother with the game, think I immediately deleted that shit from my PS-quintuple because RDR2 and FF7R alone eat up a fucking shitload of drive space.

I’m still somewhat convinced the AstroBot VR fans greatly oversell that game, though I am open to trying it if I ever get the PSVR 2.
Now hold up... You're telling me you got a PSVR and haven't tried Rescue Mission yet?  If so, you need to get on that.  Rescue Mission is the real playing Mario 64 for the first time deal.  Go dust that thing off and play it!

But PSVR is such a fucking chore to use  :stahp
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on July 25, 2022, 11:47:50 AM
I didn’t even bother with the game, think I immediately deleted that shit from my PS-quintuple because RDR2 and FF7R alone eat up a fucking shitload of drive space.

I’m still somewhat convinced the AstroBot VR fans greatly oversell that game, though I am open to trying it if I ever get the PSVR 2.
Now hold up... You're telling me you got a PSVR and haven't tried Rescue Mission yet?  If so, you need to get on that.  Rescue Mission is the real playing Mario 64 for the first time deal.  Go dust that thing off and play it!

But PSVR is such a fucking chore to use  :stahp
I feel ya... I have to not only clear my play area, I get ocd where I need to wash my face prior to prevent any oils getting on the forehead pad or nose flaps... then wiping the lenses..  then adjusting the camera based on standing or sitting... syncing the move controllers depending which game...   :stahp

...but Rescue Mission is absolutely worth it!  It's SO good! It's truly the future of 3D platformers...
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tuckers Law on July 25, 2022, 12:21:07 PM
Maybe when it’s cooler I’ll try it out…
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on July 28, 2022, 10:06:16 AM
https://blog.playstation.com/2022/07/28/ps5-beta-introduces-1440p-support-gamelists-and-more/

Nice to see them finally adding 1440P support.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Snoopycat_ on July 29, 2022, 07:06:53 AM
I was thinking about upgrading my Series S to the X so I went into GAME this morning to see what trade in deals they had. I was wandering about when suddenly I noticed there was a bunch of PS5s just sitting on the shelves behind the counter. Like rare wild animals. Snagged. Cost me £410 but it came with the new Horizon Zero thing so that was ok. I haven't opened it yet but can tell it's a beast. The thing weighs a ton.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on July 30, 2022, 12:14:00 PM
Just fired up Horizon 2 to see how it looks.. within the first 30 seconds of gameplay, I got stuck in a gap that looked semi crawl through... What the fuck kind game design is this?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on July 30, 2022, 10:24:12 PM
Just 100% the Yuffie DLC... holy christ that Weiss fight is stupid but I did it
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 30, 2022, 10:41:24 PM
I still need to play that, I'm guessing it's not much more than a couple of hours to complete?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on July 31, 2022, 12:45:39 AM
Its very short yes
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Snoopycat_ on July 31, 2022, 07:56:57 AM
I put on the new Horizon game. It looked great. The graphics are definitely next gen. 10 minutes in I was so bored I was losing the will to live. I got to the part where she was given the rock pulling thing and couldn't stand anymore of it. It's literally just a shite Ubisoft clone. I went back to Two Point Hospital. In 2022 an indie spreadsheet simulator is more inventive than a AAA big budget next gen Sony exclusive.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on July 31, 2022, 12:02:09 PM
2PH inventive? It's a straight (inferior) clone of a 90's game :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on July 31, 2022, 01:02:30 PM
Returnal rules
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on July 31, 2022, 04:56:41 PM
Supposedly Housemarque's next title is going to be much greater in scale... I'd love for them to make a full-on Metroidvania style game with Returnal gameplay.  :lawd 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Snoopycat_ on July 31, 2022, 07:56:26 PM
2PH inventive? It's a straight (inferior) clone of a 90's game :lol

Still a better game though isn't it
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on July 31, 2022, 11:39:46 PM
Demon Souls $40 new

https://amzn.to/3OMNCzW
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on August 01, 2022, 01:42:17 AM
I thought Returnal was supposed to be difficult. I literally one-shot every boss. I'm already on "Act 3"

Are people just soft these days
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on August 01, 2022, 12:29:42 PM
I thought Returnal was supposed to be difficult. I literally one-shot every boss. I'm already on "Act 3"

Are people just soft these days

From what I've played it's not too difficult except the fucking drones in stage 3.

It's just that it's ridiculously long for a rogue since you have to do 1-3 and 4-6 in one shot. The drones killing me everytime I got back to stage 3 after 20-40 mins and having to start all over again soured me on the game and I bailed.

Though I like the new tower mode.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on August 01, 2022, 12:48:53 PM
2PH inventive? It's a straight (inferior) clone of a 90's game :lol

Still a better game though isn't it

Is it?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 01, 2022, 01:36:11 PM
I thought Returnal was supposed to be difficult. I literally one-shot every boss. I'm already on "Act 3"

Are people just soft these days

They probably patched it to make it easy, it was hard when I played it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on August 01, 2022, 01:46:01 PM
I thought Returnal was supposed to be difficult. I literally one-shot every boss. I'm already on "Act 3"

Are people just soft these days

I mean games arent hard for you anyway boi ur the best gamer™ on this board and everyone knows it
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on August 01, 2022, 03:12:56 PM
Later half of the 3rd biome is a pain in the ass.. Bosses are cake if you got the right weapon.  Everything else is tits.  But yeah, the feeling of lost time when you die so far in can be souring... I will beat that game someday.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on August 03, 2022, 09:46:13 AM
 :obama

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP3HZsxrUeY
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on August 03, 2022, 08:06:57 PM
Returnal Platinum  :expert

Finished the game in about 10 hours, the rest was grinding the dumb RNG for the collectables

The free update content was ok as well.

Also this game is stupid easy. 11 deaths total. If you think this game is hard, you suck. Sorry not sorry :expert
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Kestastrophe on August 03, 2022, 10:06:54 PM
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Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on August 04, 2022, 05:10:09 PM
Got Ratchet: Titties Apart from gamefly today, time to indulge in some comfy fast food ratchet gaming
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on August 23, 2022, 02:16:41 PM
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/543277994148364318/1011699071045599272/unknown.png)
(https://blog.playstation.com/tachyon/2022/08/06d8a7c076df3b090cf777525e61e9a65174f410-scaled.jpg)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 23, 2022, 03:15:21 PM
They don’t mention anything about battery life so I’m guessing it goes from 8 hours or the regular controller to 4 hours on this.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Polident Hive on August 23, 2022, 04:08:43 PM
Replacing the whole analog stick unit is to counter stick drift? Haven’t encountered it personally but see plenty of people talk about it. Should’ve gone all the way and let the dpad and stick swap.

Overkill for me. All I’d want is the back button attachment the PS4 got.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 23, 2022, 04:55:18 PM
Maybe they can also release one where the battery has basically no life.

Call it the NoSense.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on August 23, 2022, 08:55:59 PM
Oh snap.. didn't realize it has (interchangable) domed analog caps..  :thinking  Sony had it right for 3 generations, then dun fucked it up with the DS4 and it's flat-ish caps.  Glad they realize it now.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 18, 2022, 09:32:34 AM
Features   :ohyeah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvmmWeov68s

Price  :nope

Dammit, I need those domed caps though!  :lawd
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 18, 2022, 10:37:47 AM
hows the battery life? :hitler
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on October 19, 2022, 03:27:07 PM
Half the price of a PS5?


lol.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Polident Hive on October 19, 2022, 03:32:48 PM
Just want a back button add on like the PS4. Still don’t understand why a PS4 controller won’t work with PS5 games… besides the obvious reason.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 19, 2022, 04:22:33 PM
Just want a back button add on like the PS4. Still don’t understand why a PS4 controller won’t work with PS5 games… besides the obvious reason.
Shoot, why couldn't the DS3 work with the PS4?  I still find it to be superior over the DS4, imo.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on October 19, 2022, 05:58:37 PM
€ 240 controller

:info


That's 3 full priced AAA games, ~ 2/3 of a € 399 Steamdeck, a Switch Lite + € 20 Nintendo store credit, a used Xbox Series S (that includes a controller) or € 50 shy of a new one.

At that price that thing better damn well edge you.  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 21, 2022, 10:13:32 AM
Dad of Warz 2 will have a 30fps, 40fps, 60fps and target 120fps mode.  :leon
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 21, 2022, 10:19:19 AM
40fps? :scust
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 21, 2022, 10:59:39 AM
40fps? :scust
Yeah I don't get it.  Impressions dropping right now, all everyone is talking about are all the accessibility options.  Yeah that’s great and all.  :goty
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rufus on October 21, 2022, 11:26:07 AM
40fps? :scust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXi7uO7wxdc
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on October 21, 2022, 03:03:30 PM
I admit, I didn't believe in VRR at first but Steamdeck does it and 40fps feels much smoother on it than it does on non-VRR devices.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on October 21, 2022, 03:20:08 PM
VRR is major for some games.

Kuro no Kiseki II which I'm playing now runs at 49-57 fps constantly moving  :lol

Thanks to VRR it feels almost locked 60fps smooth outside certain spots that dip below 48fps. I honestly think this game has the best gains of VRR out of every game I've tried on PS5 because the devs gave it such a shitty framerate. Elden Ring would be there but it falls under 48fps too often to feels smooth 60fps.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Polident Hive on October 21, 2022, 07:10:40 PM
Gotta test to see if the external HDD is what’s busted but it’s barely working for PS4 games anymore. Used to have no issue. Now, sometimes assets don’t load, or it’s slow, and overall introducing glitches into games. Only using it as storage. Transferring files back and forth when needed is trying. Prices for compatible SSDs seem way down and I may get it over with.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on October 21, 2022, 08:08:41 PM
Gotta test to see if the external HDD is what’s busted but it’s barely working for PS4 games anymore. Used to have no issue. Now, sometimes assets don’t load, or it’s slow, and overall introducing glitches into games. Only using it as storage. Transferring files back and forth when needed is trying. Prices for compatible SSDs seem way down and I may get it over with.

That sucks. I didn't realize non-SSDs even work on PS5. Even if the games aren't built for SSD (PS4 games) they still benefit a ton from being on SSD.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 02, 2022, 09:23:24 AM
PSVR2 launches February 22, 2023 at $549/ €599.99 / £529.99 / ¥74,980...  Ouchers. (http://www.thebore.com/forum/Smileys/default/dead.png) 

Granted it's the whole bundle: Includes PS VR2 headset, PS VR2 Sense controllers and stereo headphones.
(https://blog.playstation.com/uploads/2022/11/f783ce528e516240e4dbe1d2615974cd6283fb32-scaled.jpg)

There'll be a Horizon: Call of the Mountain Bundle for $599  / €649.99 / £569.99 / ¥79,980.
(https://blog.playstation.com/uploads/2022/11/cd1a8f230072143cd066f010342ea8fe96cce3ab-scaled.jpg)

There'll also be a PlayStation VR2 Sense controller charging station for $50 / €49.99 / £39.99 / ¥5,480.
(https://blog.playstation.com/uploads/2022/11/56eb00fabf0569791207715ce5df01ca2724907a-scaled.jpg)
https://blog.playstation.com/2022/11/02/playstation-vr2-launches-in-february-at-549-99/

About $200 more than the what I paid for the system itself?!?!  Gonna have to wait a year or two just like the first one.....  which was oh so worth it.
If this came out a year earlier, I wouldn't even blink at the price... but now?  :doge

There's 11 games they revealed as well, but no Astrobot 2 yet... or anything that looks like a system seller tbph...

https://blog.playstation.com/2022/11/02/11-new-ps-vr2-games-announced-the-dark-pictures-switchback-vr-cities-vr-enhanced-edition-crossfire-sierra-squad-and-more/

Got a weird feeling this isn't going to fly off the shelves initially...
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 02, 2022, 09:35:47 AM
 :dayum

That price.  They should focus on getting more consoles out and more games for it before putting this out.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: archnemesis on November 02, 2022, 09:39:50 AM
I'll probably buy one at launch.

I hope they announce ports of older games. I'm mostly interested in Astro Bot: Rescue Mission, Moss, and The Room.

Edit: Actually, I don't care about any of the launch games. It better have classics like Beat Saber.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on November 02, 2022, 09:39:58 AM
I mean, given the specs what were you expecting.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 02, 2022, 09:42:04 AM
I mean, given the specs what were you expecting.

$400 maybe?  I dunno- none of these VR systems seem worth it to me.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on November 02, 2022, 10:01:00 AM
Does it include a PS5?  :lol :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 02, 2022, 10:20:57 AM
Honestly the US Price is less than I was expecting given the specs, the market competition, Sony pricing and current chip costs and inflation.

I thought minimum would be $600 but was expecting closer to $800.
The non-USA prices are crazy expensive though.

Outside Quest, VR is still fucking expensive and a niche. Even Quest2 is now $400 after they raised it $100 this year.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 02, 2022, 10:22:59 AM
I mean, given the specs what were you expecting.

$400 maybe?  I dunno- none of these VR systems seem worth it to me.

They aren't. It's a niche genre for people who have that kind of disposable cash.

The games are fun but there just aren't enough really good VR games being made each year to justify the costs.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 02, 2022, 10:41:08 AM
Looking at the launch lineup, I think that's the bigger problem than the price in the USA.
The lineup just isn't competitive to the current VR market.

Not even an Astrobot 1 remaster if Astrobot 2 isn't ready yet? No Alyx port?

Should've delayed this launch until the software was there to sell this thing imo. Needs to launch with a banger lineup of new exclusives, PSVR remasters and Alyx.

Though it's very possible Gabe doesn't want Alex on anything but Index as a continual selling point for Index.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 02, 2022, 10:47:40 AM
Personally, I was expecting/hoping for closer to $400 for the bundle.  It's a hard pill to swallow seeing that it cost more than your system.  Not to mention harder times for me ATM. :doge 

But what eases the pain, could care less about any of those supposed launch titles..  makes holding off much easier.
Guess there's still time though for other launch titles.
If RE8 was ready on launch?.. hhhnnnnng
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on November 02, 2022, 01:21:16 PM
$550 for a wired vr headset in 2023

 :girlaff
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on November 02, 2022, 01:33:46 PM
Not sure I talked about it yet, but Stray is absolute dogshit and I am absolute NOT surprised this turd was hyped up by Sony crowd. Be better

I also played Demon Souls and after... well, every game AFTER Demon Souls, Demon Souls is a relic and frustrating to play
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 02, 2022, 01:35:26 PM
Not sure I talked about it yet, but Stray is absolute dogshit and I am absolute NOT surprised this turd was hyped up by Sony crowd. Be better

But...

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1332010/Stray/
77,000 reviews (overwhelmingly positive)

That said yeah I heard people just like it because you're a cute cat. I dunno if I'll bother trying it. Maybe when they give it away free in a bundle in a year.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: thetylerrob on November 02, 2022, 02:16:28 PM
It was a nice game for my wife to play through and stream to the discord. She also loves Last of Us. I would have preferred not to pay full price.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 02, 2022, 03:36:52 PM
legit question: what have they been doing in the VR space for the last 10 years besides making it more friendly for normies, cos this still looks like cumbersome shit for weirdos. Or have they give up the ghost on that?

fwiw: I'm on the I'll try it when its cheap enough, convenient enough and small enough train :elon
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 02, 2022, 04:06:31 PM
legit question: what have they been doing in the VR space for the last 10 years besides making it more friendly for normies, cos this still looks like cumbersome shit for weirdos. Or have they give up the ghost on that?

fwiw: I'm on the I'll try it when its cheap enough, convenient enough and small enough train :elon

I mean, that's exactly it with wireless Quest and casual content like VR chat that all the twitch/zoomer kids can enjoy?

On the non-casual side, basically they made the controllers way better around the time of Quest 2/Index and PSVR2 continues that. Allows a lot better controls in the VR space.

But software-side I haven't really seen any interesting new developments in VR tech post-Alyx. And Alyx basically just created a fairly smooth and immersive way to play slow FPS games.

That being said, Beat Saber is still an amazing music game on the level of DDR.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 02, 2022, 04:33:53 PM
The impression I have of the Quest is it's still more of a curiosity than anything, just the whole scene doesn't seem to have come along as much as people expected like 10 years ago.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 02, 2022, 04:37:34 PM
And Astrobot Rescue Mission has raised the bar for 3D platformers to untouchable heights.  You cannot find an experience like it anywhere else.   And there will definitely be an Astrobot coming to PSVR2. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 02, 2022, 04:41:17 PM
The impression I have of the Quest is it's still more of a curiosity than anything, just the whole scene doesn't seem to have come along as much as people expected like 10 years ago.

Well, yeah if you expected flying cars and jetpacks and stuff...we are still a ways off.

But like compare Quest 1/PSVR1 to the modern software and there's a pretty generational leap for sure. It's just slow because there isn't enough money in VR software for the big companies to invest in pushing the envelope.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 02, 2022, 04:47:01 PM
But honestly if you're looking for something core that people keep playing for months and isn't some curiosity game,

It's basically the music game scene in VR. There's tons of music games thanks to the success of Beat Saber. I mean this just came out today and has great reviews:

https://youtu.be/EWu7DHAEa0M

There's also stuff like Walking Dead and Alyx for full length FPS campaigns. But those are still pretty much one and done core gaming experience.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Polident Hive on November 04, 2022, 01:03:56 AM
God of War 2 is sounding good. Wish I had time to play it at launch.

Have major no complaints with my five year old LG OLED, but I do get a little jealous when I see the various visual modes. The HFR mode is 80-90 FPS at 1440p. That’s pretty good. And I’m interested to see what the 40 FPS limit is about. Somehow it’s a lot smoother than 30 FPS? I’ll try it on the steam deck.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 04, 2022, 06:30:17 PM
God of War 2 is sounding good. Wish I had time to play it at launch.

Have major no complaints with my five year old LG OLED, but I do get a little jealous when I see the various visual modes. The HFR mode is 80-90 FPS at 1440p. That’s pretty good. And I’m interested to see what the 40 FPS limit is about. Somehow it’s a lot smoother than 30 FPS? I’ll try it on the steam deck.

Yes- 40hz and 40 FPS is incredibly smooth and noticeably better than 30 FPS, at least on the Steam Deck.

From Rufus' post earlier in the thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXi7uO7wxdc
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Polident Hive on November 05, 2022, 08:20:06 PM
Control’s case is interesting. Tried the 30 FPS RT mode and it’s a meaningful difference, but had to switch to performance mode to actually enjoy the gameplay. A 40 FPS mode there, if it’s as smooth as they say, would’ve been a nice balance.

When I played Tony Hawk PS5, the 120hz mode worked. It just broke HDR and limited output to 1080p. In theory I could try a 40 FPS mode even without HDMI 2.1 (great naming, guys) and VRR. As a test because 1080p ruins the whole purpose of it. Well, for now. Gotham Knights and the plague game are 30 FPS. Down the road 40 FPS could be the performance mode.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 06, 2022, 04:30:01 PM
There's 11 games they revealed as well, but no Astrobot 2 yet... or anything that looks like a system seller tbph...

Resi 8 is big enough for me, but they still haven't announced the launch lineup. They said at some point they'll reveal over 20 titles ready for launch, assuming there will be some updates (astrobot and wipeout would be sick) and some vr modes e.g. Gran Turismo 7, though knowing Polyphony and the troubles they've been having developing content for that game I wouldn't expect it at launch.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 06, 2022, 05:59:59 PM
There's 11 games they revealed as well, but no Astrobot 2 yet... or anything that looks like a system seller tbph...

Resi 8 is big enough for me, but they still haven't announced the launch lineup. They said at some point they'll reveal over 20 titles ready for launch, assuming there will be some updates (astrobot and wipeout would be sick) and some vr modes e.g. Gran Turismo 7, though knowing Polyphony and the troubles they've been having developing content for that game I wouldn't expect it at launch.
Oh no doubt Resi 8.  I got PSVR1 for RE7 and it was worth every penny fir that alone imo. (Even though I waited a year for a price drop)  I guess RE8 han't been confirmed to work at launch, but it'd be silly not to have that ready by then. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 06, 2022, 09:49:37 PM
There's 11 games they revealed as well, but no Astrobot 2 yet... or anything that looks like a system seller tbph...

Resi 8 is big enough for me, but they still haven't announced the launch lineup. They said at some point they'll reveal over 20 titles ready for launch, assuming there will be some updates (astrobot and wipeout would be sick) and some vr modes e.g. Gran Turismo 7, though knowing Polyphony and the troubles they've been having developing content for that game I wouldn't expect it at launch.
Oh no doubt Resi 8.  I got PSVR1 for RE7 and it was worth every penny fir that alone imo. (Even though I waited a year for a price drop)  I guess RE8 han't been confirmed to work at launch, but it'd be silly not to have that ready by then.

Yeah, it's far enough out no doubt they'll be cagey about any launch announcements
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: naff on November 06, 2022, 09:51:08 PM
I loved Forbidden West and though the gameplay looks vanilla and generic like a "my first vr game" experience, I'm still v keen to jam call of the wild. If Resi 8 isn't a launch title, Rogue Squadron, Wipeout or Astrobot aren't tehre at launch titles with compatibility updates  I may wait to buy it. Am quite keen on Crossfire Sierra Squad though
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 07, 2022, 05:43:31 AM
Watched like 3 hours of the new God of War on youtube. The intro was boring as hell. Seemed like a literal retread of the 2018 game. Just other gods and enemies standing in for Baldur and the troll miniboss. Maybe they'll pull some pretentious wank about Ragnarok not being the end but the beginning of a new cycle. That's why we had you doing the same shit.

Anyways, the game should be arriving this wednesday as I pre-ordered it.  :like
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on November 07, 2022, 06:11:45 AM
Maybe they'll pull some pretentious wank about Ragnarok not being the end but the beginning of a new cycle.

That's literally what Ragnarök is.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 07, 2022, 06:42:43 AM
So that's the origin of that cliché. I thought Ragnarök was the end of the old times and beginning of new times, but not a cycle were it'll lead to the same shit again.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 07, 2022, 12:04:23 PM
So that's the origin of that cliché. I thought Ragnarök was the end of the old times and beginning of new times, but not a cycle were it'll lead to the same shit again.
Need to have Kratos pasted into this...
(https://media.tenor.com/jr9t3yabkH8AAAAC/ah-shit-here-we-go-again.gif)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on November 08, 2022, 07:03:25 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/W7omJVO.png)

yaya

cant wait to jack off to Thor
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 09, 2022, 02:22:29 AM
First few hours of Ragnorak were solid. Game feels a lot snappier than I remember the 2018 game being. Also has a bit more spectacle early on which was my main complaint about 2018. In 2018 outside the Thor Kids and the Baldur end stuff the game didn't have a lot of spectacle that the old GoWs were all about.

Playing it on the 40fps mode. Combat definitely feels better at 60fps but 40fps is good enough and I like the sharpness.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 09, 2022, 05:48:39 PM
So 40fps is a bit janky in this compared to 40fps mode in Ratchet.

Reading Digital Foundry, apparently the 40fps mode was locked 40fps but day 1 patch...unlocked it so now it just moves all over the place and is janky? Why the fuck would they do this...it's not like PS5 VRR goes down to 40fps even if it hovers 40-50fps. VRR only catches 48fps+.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 09, 2022, 05:53:00 PM
About 4 hours in. Playing on Give Me No Mercy at 60fps, game seems fine.  Looks really nice on PS5, a lot of environmental detail.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on November 09, 2022, 06:42:58 PM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1590154243474063360
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 09, 2022, 08:23:20 PM
I love how people looove all the accessibility options but hate when a character is constantly yapping and spoiling puzzles for you that you can't turn off or adjust.  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 09, 2022, 10:03:22 PM
About 4 hours in. Playing on Give Me No Mercy at 60fps, game seems fine.  Looks really nice on PS5, a lot of environmental detail.

I may end up going with the 120fps mode.
120fps mode seems to run like 80-90fps which feels really good. But I definitely notice the softness to it.

By unlocking the 40fps mode they basically made the game ready for PS5 Pro which will run quality mode at 4k/60fps, but as is it just means a fluctuating Elden Ring style framerate (though it never stutters or dips as hard). Just seems kind of dumb they locked it at 40fps for the review builds and then unlocked it after.

I'm probably around where you are and the visuals are solid, but the game does make me wish it wasn't so cross-gen. DF said the gap between PS4->PS5 is smaller than Horizon 2 and it shows. Horizon 2 on PS5 looks like a current gen game, Ragnorak on PS5 looks like a really nice looking PS4 game.

I wouldn't care so much except it means it'll be another 4-5 years until we get a God of War that's actually with PS5 visuals from the team. Just feels kind of a waste that they didn't push the PS5 version harder in quality mode.

But maybe the later areas will be more impressive.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 10, 2022, 04:18:34 AM
Been playing like 3 hours as well. As Bebpo said the game feels a lot snappier. Seems like they sped up all movement. From combat to climbing and general movement.

Same problems I had with the original are also still here. The intro took almost 2 hours and maybe 33% could be considered actual gameplay. There's like a 15 minute sled ride at the start of the game and I put the controller down to see how interactive it actually was. You only had to complete like two quicktime events. Loads of just holding the stick forward and watching stuff happen. Hopefully it opens up more along the line.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I hate that Thor got a cutscene kill on Kratos. I had full health motherfuckers. "Wow, Thor is so strong." Except he's a complete fucking pansy when I'm the one in control.
[close]

I really need AAA games to go back to being games... I replayed some of God of War 3 last sunday and had so much more fun than I'm having here. Hopefully The Callisto Protocol delivers something closer to what I'm looking for.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 10, 2022, 04:43:05 AM
I really need AAA games to go back to being games... I replayed some of God of War 3 last sunday and had so much more fun than I'm having here. Hopefully The Callisto Protocol delivers something closer to what I'm looking for.

Yeah, pretty much this. I read some professional reviews to see why they are giving this 10s and like 2/3rds of the review is gushing over amazing narrative writing, motion capture, VA performance, emotional resonance.

Like yo, GoW was an action game series. I don't want GoW to be an interactive story experience.

Imagine if the next Devil May Cry was fucking over the shoulder camera and like 50% press up to walk & talk and QTE.  :/
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 10, 2022, 05:19:31 AM
About 4 hours in. Playing on Give Me No Mercy at 60fps, game seems fine.  Looks really nice on PS5, a lot of environmental detail.

I may end up going with the 120fps mode.
120fps mode seems to run like 80-90fps which feels really good. But I definitely notice the softness to it.

By unlocking the 40fps mode they basically made the game ready for PS5 Pro which will run quality mode at 4k/60fps, but as is it just means a fluctuating Elden Ring style framerate (though it never stutters or dips as hard). Just seems kind of dumb they locked it at 40fps for the review builds and then unlocked it after.

I'm probably around where you are and the visuals are solid, but the game does make me wish it wasn't so cross-gen. DF said the gap between PS4->PS5 is smaller than Horizon 2 and it shows. Horizon 2 on PS5 looks like a current gen game, Ragnorak on PS5 looks like a really nice looking PS4 game.
For me the "PS4-ness" is most obvious in the lighting but most everything else looks to be of high quality. DF saying the PS5 version is like a PC version on high or very high settings makes sense to me. The PS4 version loses a shit load of texture and environmental detail in comparison. Walking around in the *early game location*
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Dwarf Village
[close]
I was like, damn, this looks fucking good.

I tried a little 40fps on Horizon and it wasn't for me, at least when a solid 60fps is available. Maybe they'll release a locked vs unlocked 40fps framerate option, not sure why the changed it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 10, 2022, 12:31:51 PM
If they are going to make another God of War, I'd like for them to make one about the period between God of War 3 and 2018. Actually have Kratos earn being the character he is in the "reboot". Just the wife and child isn't a good enough reason. Kratos is literally covered in the ashes of his dead wife and daughter.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 11, 2022, 04:29:26 PM
Kratos is literally covered in the ashes of his dead wife and daughter.
It did drive me a little crazy they just pass over that stuff in 2018. I understand why they focused on Zeus stuff given the themes of the game, but Kratos revealing to his son Atreus that he killed his father Zeus was suppose to be this big revelation...

bro, that's not even top 20 for horrific shit you've done.  :lol And Zeus kind of deserved it. Killing your old family while in a bloodrage and then blaming Ares for it is 100x worse, my guy..."but I thought I was killing a random helpless woman and child, not my own family! ARRRREEEEEEEES!" :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 11, 2022, 05:18:18 PM
The writing the GoW original games were so bad that at the time I was half-convinced GoW3 was an intentional troll to push the dumb as far as possible in a B-movie bad way.

I mean I'll give these new games that they are leagues above those games in writing, though it's also funny that they choose the GoW series to be the franchise to reboot as a award winning Journey narrative (tm) direction.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Potato on November 11, 2022, 05:33:21 PM
Apparently retailers here will have PS5s on shelves for the first time since release. Either supply has increased to meet demand or demand has slowed enough for supply to catch up. Should be interesting to see over the next 6 months.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 12, 2022, 06:34:02 AM
I mean I'll give these new games that they are leagues above those games in writing

Are they really?

I couldn't have groaned any harder when they decided to kill a dog in the first 30 minutes for a cheap emotional scene.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 12, 2022, 01:30:15 PM
I mean I'm not here to say GoW is amazing or anything, but that made you groan? I mean it's just kind of conventional storytelling and I didn't see it as a cheap emotional scene since it's not like they lingered a lot on it. I just saw it as the tone-setting that yeah he's teenager now and in this kind of classic coming of age stories you do see the male teen having to put down his dog.

But yes I do think these games are aiming a little higher than the previous games. I feel like it's easy to be cynical and want to knock Sony or other high brow AAA games storytelling because people push them almost as if they are part of their identity. But I don't think they are usually bad, but at least competently written.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on November 12, 2022, 06:18:28 PM
I want Thor to fuck me full fury
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: remy on November 12, 2022, 07:14:15 PM
I mean I'll give these new games that they are leagues above those games in writing

Are they really?

I couldn't have groaned any harder when they decided to kill a dog in the first 30 minutes for a cheap emotional scene.

No dog is safe in a Sony Cinematic Masterpiece
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Potato on November 12, 2022, 08:43:25 PM
I want Thor to fuck me full furry
:whatisthis
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on November 12, 2022, 10:23:11 PM
Yeah I'll bark for him, feed me Thor
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on November 17, 2022, 03:01:41 AM
Finished Ragnarok platinum

This couldn't have been any more lazy. Story sucks, gameplay sucks, combat sucks, everything sucks

Fuck this game
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 17, 2022, 03:25:55 AM
Finished Ragnarok platinum

This couldn't have been any more lazy. Story sucks, gameplay sucks, combat sucks, everything sucks

Fuck this game

Yeah, sounds like GoW2018.

This will probably be me when I get back to it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 17, 2022, 02:37:49 PM
I'm around 25 hours in. I found Forbidden West to be a lot more enjoyable and Elden Ring blows it out of the water.

I think it's better than 2018 and I like the larger cast of characters but it does feel like a retread in a lot of ways.

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on November 17, 2022, 02:57:21 PM
Got the platinum. You barely kill any gods. 0/10.

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I quite liked it, but I really wanted to murder more gods  :joker
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Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 17, 2022, 02:58:19 PM
The critic reviews are just weird. 94 MC? Like this is some Half-Life 2 kind of once in a generation experience? wat.

Every once a while it feels like there is a game where industry people are so into their own hype they start believing it. But it's weird that it was for Ragnorak, a game that was basically in radio silence for 3 years and then had a few showings in the last few months and came out and is just a more of the same thing. It didn't seem like the gaming press were super hyped for this going in.

Like Elden Ring? Yeah, everyone wants on that Souls train and people were salivating for ER. That makes sense for critics to overrate it (and they did, but it's still probably the best AAA of 2022 and a great game). GoW2's score just don't make sense given the audience scores and response. It's like the critics played a completely different game. So weird.

Actually I just looked up 2018 and it has the same MC at 94. And that game is like a 7/10. But at least you can see where the hype came from at that time being a new reboot of a major franchise.

I think looking at MC scores lately with stuff like Elden Ring getting a 96 and GoWs getting 94s, etc...my main takeaway is that game reviewers really overrate big franchise games in general and 9s are handed out like candy instead of to only the truly great games. Zelda Skyward Sword has a 93 at release and it was just as bad as GoW 2018 or worse. Then on re-release on Switch it has an 81 because people are off the hype train and like oh wait this is a bad game (81 still way too high).

I mean fwiw I'd give Elden Ring a 9 and it's still my GoTY. But I don't even think it's the top3 Souls games (Bloodborne, DS1, DeSo) from From and those other ones scored lower so /shrug
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 17, 2022, 03:33:26 PM
Big scores for exclusives are mostly out of cowardice. Work for an outlet people have heard of and dare give God of War a 7.8 or whatever at your peril.

People are still butthurt about Jeff Gertsmann giving Twighlight Princess a 8.8 almost 20 years later :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 17, 2022, 03:49:25 PM
Zelda Skyward Sword has a 93 at release and it was just as bad as GoW 2018 or worse. Then on re-release on Switch it has an 81 because people are off the hype train and like oh wait this is a bad game (81 still way too high).
Skyward Sword might be one of the oddest, most uneven major games ever released.  It had some fantastic music and rock solid dungeons, but the connective tissue was awful. I'd have difficult time throwing a number on a game like that as a reviewer. During Ancient Cistern, it's like a 9. Collecting tadtones or fighting the Imprisioned for the 3rd time, its a fucking 2.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Potato on November 17, 2022, 04:08:06 PM
Games media has been on a 20 year quest for legitimacy and the people in the industry have undeniably tied that legitimacy to big AAA games.

It's like they think if they convince enough people that games like GTAIV have "Oscar-worthy writing" and games like it are worthy of being taken seriously by serious people™, then they too will be taken seriously by their former classmates who managed to become real journalists.

Sadly, the people they're writing for don't give a shit and the people making these games don't give a shit and are happy just to spit out cookie cutter bullshit like GoW 2018/Ragnarok and manipulate the useful idiots in the gaming media to hype this sort of thing up as if it's some Scorcese-level family drama.

So, in short, the over rating of these games will continue for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 17, 2022, 04:08:37 PM
Big scores for exclusives are mostly out of cowardice. Work for an outlet people have heard of and dare give God of War a 7.8 or whatever at your peril.

People are still butthurt about Jeff Gertsmann giving Twighlight Princess a 8.8 almost 20 years later :doge

Sure, but Horizon FW has an 88 MC and even though I didn't care for FW, 88 isn't crazy. It's like an 8/10ish game. ZD is an 89 (I think ZD is great). Ghost of Tsushima is sitting at an 83, even Last of Us pt.2 is a 93 MC. Spider-Man is an 87! Miles is an 85.

It's not that GoW 2018 and Ragnorak scored well for an exclusive. But that reviewers are straight up scoring them higher than like every other Sony exclusive AAA that weirds me out. I don't get what critics love about these GoW walking sims with combat interruption and repetitive puzzles games. Reviewers are basically saying these two God of War games are the pinnacle of Sony games. Very odd.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 17, 2022, 04:12:38 PM
It really is distinguished mentally-challenged and frustrating too, because how else are you suppose to hear about the details of how much a game is worth it or not other than gameplay trailers (and lack of demos)?   These journos of late are ruining it for others.. especially for Nintendo and Sony games... Blowing mediocre shit out of proportion.  Destructoid giving Bayo 3 a perfect 10 too?  Can they say least make it not so obvious they're hyper biased and/or paid off? 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 17, 2022, 04:13:24 PM
Then again maybe it's a leftover legacy of critics scoring the old God of War games higher than any other Sony game franchise.

Even on PS2/PS3

God of War - 94 MC
God of War II - 93 MC
God of War III - 92 MC

Which is crazy high. The mainline series has never fallen below a 92 MC. But the thing is that I think most players? Would rate the original game series higher than the new ones.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 17, 2022, 04:15:02 PM
It really is distinguished mentally-challenged and frustrating too, because how else are you suppose to hear about the details of how much a game is worth it or not other than gameplay trailers (and lack of demos)?   These journos of late are ruining it for others.. especially for Nintendo and Sony games... Blowing mediocre shit out of proportion.  Destructoid giving Bayo 3 a perfect 10 too?  Can they say least make it not so obvious they're hyper biased and/or paid off?

Yeah, an issue with shit getting ridiculous scores is it makes reviews feel worthless and it's hard to figure out what's worth your time/money anymore.

Steam reviews with 1,000+ reviews and being "overwhelminingly positive" is usually a better indicator that a game is actually going to be good (outside weird niches) than a 90+ MC these days.

But with GoW it's more that like...these latest two are kind of ...mediocre games? (assuming Ragnorak is more of the same since I haven't played past the intro yet). It's just hard to see what critics are like "omg this is so fun I can't put it down" 90+ MC is all about.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on November 17, 2022, 05:04:48 PM
Then again maybe it's a leftover legacy of critics scoring the old God of War games higher than any other Sony game franchise.

Even on PS2/PS3

God of War - 94 MC
God of War II - 93 MC
God of War III - 92 MC

Which is crazy high. The mainline series has never fallen below a 92 MC. But the thing is that I think most players? Would rate the original game series higher than the new ones.

I certainly would

a lot of slow walking and talking, interrupted by a boring puzzle which the other character will tell me how to solve, then some combat, then some more walking and talking, and more combat

And the combat isnt as good as the old ones imo.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 17, 2022, 05:31:53 PM
Big scores for exclusives are mostly out of cowardice. Work for an outlet people have heard of and dare give God of War a 7.8 or whatever at your peril.

People are still butthurt about Jeff Gertsmann giving Twighlight Princess a 8.8 almost 20 years later :doge

Sure, but Horizon FW has an 88 MC and even though I didn't care for FW, 88 isn't crazy. It's like an 8/10ish game. ZD is an 89 (I think ZD is great). Ghost of Tsushima is sitting at an 83, even Last of Us pt.2 is a 93 MC. Spider-Man is an 87! Miles is an 85.

It's not that GoW 2018 and Ragnorak scored well for an exclusive. But that reviewers are straight up scoring them higher than like every other Sony exclusive AAA that weirds me out. I don't get what critics love about these GoW walking sims with combat interruption and repetitive puzzles games. Reviewers are basically saying these two God of War games are the pinnacle of Sony games. Very odd.

I was half joking about the cowardice thing, although I'm sure reviewers bump up scores for games they weren't very keen on if it leads to them being able to live an easier life online :trumps

I think alot of reviewers these days are more into the cinematic games and gaming being more "mature" and shit, possibly to justify to themselves that its art they're reviewing not just childish vidya :snob And people do love that current era sony walking sim cinematic shit to be fair.

There is usually a level of polish and production value to a sony exclusive that will get extra points from the people who treat it as a product review. IIRC the biggest mess they'e put out recently was probably Horizon Forbidden West and that would be considered a highly polished product on release by most other pubs standards.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on November 18, 2022, 04:44:35 AM
People are still butthurt about Jeff Gertsmann giving Twighlight Princess a 8.8 almost 20 years later :doge

People hate TP now. Even though it's easily one of the best Zelda games  :win :bolo
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 19, 2022, 02:28:49 PM
I guess I'm going to sub to PS Extra cause with the 25% off it's like $20 for the rest of the year for my sub (~8.5 months left). I looked through the list and it looks mostly whatever if you already have/had game pass and humble bundles on steam. Mostly getting it since I want to get back to W101 and PS4 on PS5 is the best version and it's like $40 or $18 on sale.

Guess I'll give Stray a shot and been wanting to play through Trials of Mana but Square sales on PC fucking suck and never go below 50% of like full MSRP. I'm still waiting for FFXII Remaster to be cheap. It's never fucking cheap goddamnit  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 19, 2022, 07:59:49 PM
Played some more god of war and this shit fucking sucks, the combat can be enjoyable but you need to slog through 10 mins of walking simulation and overly long cutscenes between battles at the start. I don't care about the story because kratos is a prick and his son is somewhere between a punk and a little bitch.

The first boss even says lol you fucking suck now, aka we've taken away all of your abilities again even tho it's the 5th mainline game in the franchise so this shit technically makes no sense :trumps
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 20, 2022, 02:34:40 AM
I'm the opposite. I didn't really like the beginning after the intro. Just felt like zzz GoW 2018.

But last few nights I've been enjoying the hell out of Ragnorak. For whatever reason this game is just working more for me than 2018 did with the same formula. The level design feels way better, the scale, art and vistas are constantly better, and the combat is a lot better even if it's still designed as a TPS game rather than a character action melee game. The formula still has its own flaws but the game has been wowing me constantly for a couple nights since I've gone back to it after finishing up Bayonetta 3.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 20, 2022, 02:55:50 AM
Also Ragnorak is giving me a lot of Uncharted vibes. Like the way the levels are designed, the integration of combat segments, puzzles, storytelling, vistas, set pieces. It feels very Uncharted inspired in design. 2018 never gave me that feeling. Felt like a weird Ubisoft-lite walking sim/combat game. Just feels like they figured out how to fit it all together better this time around so far.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 20, 2022, 04:21:34 AM
Why does it wrest away the control from me so much. The game seemingly has more fun playing itself than I have playing it.

Reviewers must be scoring this as a product, cause the production values are really high. But as a game? A 9,4 average? This is one of the high points other games should measure up to? This shit is barely a game for more than 50% of it's runtime.

Pressing forward to do automated climbing or listen to some walky-talky shit isn't gameplay. Half the game is predicated on this mystery box bullshit with the promise of something great coming up later. That's cool, but what reason do I actually have to care about anything I'm doing in the moment?

I also love how it only sets up stuff by straight up telling you. How the fuck am I supposed to be intimidated by Thor and Odin when they're like a drunk uncle at a wedding and a frail old grandpa. "Yeah well, but what about Mimir's stories." How about you actually show them doing shit. They seemingly also forget which character you play as in these games. Kratos just got off the shift killing the entire Greek pantheon. What can fat fuck and old fart over there actually do.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on November 20, 2022, 06:13:58 AM
Games like God of War Ragnarok got caught up in the idea that every game should be accesible. For the most part this has resulted in making the gameplay as easy as possible.

There are very few 'easy to play - hard to master' games out there anymore, which is strange considering those games are some of the highest rated historically and the original PS2 God of War was just like that.
God of War turned into a cinematic game experience as opposed to an action game.

I liked it better when games were rated on different aspects (some YouTubers still do this) like Story, Gameplay, Graphics, Sound etc. .

also what this guy said
https://twitter.com/TAHK0/status/1589747218097262593 (https://twitter.com/TAHK0/status/1589747218097262593)

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on November 20, 2022, 01:15:19 PM
God of War was always cinematic and accessibility>depth. If anything, the battles are more demanding than before.

The problem is, the story is just bad.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 20, 2022, 02:33:29 PM
Yeah, I'm not sure how accessible Ragnorak is. When I play it I keep thinking the combat is tuned very hardcore. The parrying/blocking necessity to get big damage in, while dealing with the yellows and reds, especially on certain bosses, reminds me of Sekiro. Like I watch that God of War ad and I try to imagine Ben Stiller making it through these battles and I can't see it. Maybe on easy mode.

The rest of the game is accessible, sure. The puzzles actually aren't bad if they just patch in shutting up the kid/head from yelling out hints/solutions.

But the combat doesn't strike me as accessible. I almost gave up last night on a boss as I was getting stonewalled attempt after attempt making no progress and then I had a run where I just went ham non-stop aggressive and perfect parried like every hit and the fight was over in an instant and was very satisfying.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 20, 2022, 02:34:34 PM
I think the easiest example of the bad writing though is all the lore books you pick up. They're terribly written. Haven't read one that was enjoyable. If you can't nail journal entries, you've got writing problems.

But I do like the jokes. Even if they don't fit the series. But the series has been a stupid series since the start.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on November 20, 2022, 04:37:43 PM
Oh, and Atreus has to be one of the shittiest main characters of all time. Zero pesonality, the actor feels like a random bland school kid. I wish I could throw the axe into that punchable face. Heimdall was the best character, but probably by accident. I guess they wanted me hate the guy for dissing all those goofs, but that was great.  :doge

tbh the OTS close combat system is like the best since Godhand and when it's just bosses, fighting and a little exploration the game is very good. The transition between gameplay and cutscenes can be quite nice at times and makes perfect sense following the cinematic camera angles of the old games. It just falls apart because it wants to be a pretentious Marvel epic. If this still was a simple pulp story about cartoon versions of myth characters killing each other, it would have been amazing.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 20, 2022, 05:11:08 PM
I never thought of God Hand. But you’re right, that did the OTS melee tank controls combat. Though pretty sure the camera was pulled back further so you could see around you more. Also iirc there was some time slowing Bayonetta stuff to help manage crowd control with that type of camera.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 21, 2022, 01:41:55 AM
Man, I'm reallly liking Ragnorak. Very surprised.

I don't like GoW1, but I love GoW2. I don't like GoW2018, but I'm really liking this? Feels like the best Sony AAA since Last of Us II which I guess wasn't that long ago but still.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on November 21, 2022, 06:46:34 AM
Its universally known that kids in videogames and movies generally suck ass
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: headwalk on November 21, 2022, 07:08:13 AM
"having trouble with the combat in a cinematic sony game?" is one of the opening lines in a life insurance advert.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 22, 2022, 03:03:45 AM
I like how Ragnorak handles the ludonarrative dissonance with jokes. When you have people tagging along and Kratos is just going off doing side stuff the commentary is pretty good.

"My dad likes loot"    :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tasty on November 22, 2022, 09:41:54 AM
People are still butthurt about Jeff Gertsmann giving Twighlight Princess a 8.8 almost 20 years later :doge

People hate TP now. Even though it's easily one of the best Zelda games  :win :bolo

Always was.jpg

https://youtu.be/CPmR2kAvrqo
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: chronovore on November 23, 2022, 02:24:54 AM
I like how Ragnorak handles the ludonarrative dissonance with jokes. When you have people tagging along and Kratos is just going off doing side stuff the commentary is pretty good.

"My dad likes loot"    :lol

Friend of mine noted that when you find hidden packages and chests, the boy says, "How are you so good at finding those?"
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 23, 2022, 02:26:43 AM
There are times playing Ragnarok where I am all "holy shit that was fucking awesome", and it's often during combat when I'm kicking ass.

They really nailed the brutal kills from the old games but modern in this. And the combat system is so much better than 2018 it's not even funny. I don't know if the whole game is a GoW1->2 level of jump, but the combat definitely is. I'm getting pretty good and the combat is very satisfying when you are good and parrying and dodging and block breaking and stunning and elemental hitting and using the environment, etc..etc... just needs a combo meter.

This is actually a very good technical melee combat game. I felt like you couldn't really say that about 2018. It was alright but it had too many issues. The camera is still the biggest issue here, and it has very few weapons for a character action game, but otherwise goddamn it's good.

That said the worst enemies in 2018 were the Dark Elves and their bullshit flying around and blinding shit and they fucking suck here too. All the new enemies are great, but these dudes still fucking suck. At least you have a better arsenal and more fluid combat to deal with them this go around.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on November 23, 2022, 04:14:00 AM
I like how Ragnorak handles the ludonarrative dissonance with jokes. When you have people tagging along and Kratos is just going off doing side stuff the commentary is pretty good.

"My dad likes loot"    :lol

I like how original GoW handled ludonarrative dissonance by simply being honest and making your character an edgy war criminal. :trumps
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 23, 2022, 09:04:31 AM
My favourite part was when Atreus shouted at Kratos: "Giant enemy crab! Attack it's weak spot for massive damage."

Damn, gaming has finally grown up. "Ridge Racer!!!"
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 26, 2022, 04:40:18 AM
Enjoyed the Angrboda section so much, I hooked up my PS3 and am now installing the God of War Collection 2 containing Chains of Olympus HD and Ghost of Sparta HD.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 26, 2022, 05:07:02 PM
Enjoyed the Angrboda section so much, I hooked up my PS3 and am now installing the God of War Collection 2 containing Chains of Olympus HD and Ghost of Sparta HD.

 :lol

The game has some pacing issues. It's honestly my only complaint where I'm at in the game (a bit further than you). Actually my other complaint is re-using certain enemies from GoW2018. Every time I fight an enemy from 2018 I realize that one reason I didn't like 2018 was a lot of the enemy types were not fun to fight. Ragnarok would've been better off not re-using any of the old enemies.

That section, on its own was a fine 8/10 game in the vein of like Plague's Tale. But it went on way too long and is a lot lesser quality than the 9/10 GoW Ragnarok game that surrounds it. If the section was like 1/3rd the length I think it would've been a fine diversion. And I don't think anything in that section was actually bad. It was just a different kind of game that wasn't as good as the main game.

I had no issue with the first Sindri section though. Length was fine and it was fun. I think the shooter combat, while not as good as the main game combat, is pretty solid 8/10 combat so it works in small bursts.

*edit* One thing I did think about while in the Angrboda section by the end was how much I would not enjoy having to go through all this on a NG+ speedrun. I don't see any way around it still taking 1-2 hours because it's such a walk & talk section. NG+ needs like a "skip this section" button. Reminds me of the issues I just had with Bayonetta 3.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 27, 2022, 04:15:39 AM
I like the sections that only pretend to be gameplay. The part where you chase Angrboda as the wolf, I put the controller down. Nothing happens. So it isn't gameplay.

I can not in good conscience call a game that is seemingly ashamed of being a game, a good game. I think it's a fine product. The combat that's there has a solid feel. But the overall package makes for a pretty bad game.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on November 27, 2022, 08:31:44 AM
It’s an experience not a game you troglodyte  :snob
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 27, 2022, 11:21:53 AM
I like the sections that only pretend to be gameplay. The part where you chase Angrboda as the wolf, I put the controller down. Nothing happens. So it isn't gameplay.

I can not in good conscience call a game that is seemingly ashamed of being a game, a good game. I think it's a fine product. The combat that's there has a solid feel. But the overall package makes for a pretty bad game.

Fair enough, but it's not like scripted sequences that play themselves is new to AAA gaming or even the God of War franchise. Just throwing a QTE prompt here and there doesn't make it gameplay.

And Bayonetta 3 is a good comparison. A Platinum games action game is about as "game" as you can get, but it still has a bunch of short sections with no gameplay every level. This is just gaming in 2022.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 27, 2022, 11:33:26 AM
I think the combat here is extremely good. I know some people are complaining about fights every 10 steps, but I actually feel there aren't enough combat sections in the game to interrupt the walking/talking/puzzles.

Combined with the character customization, this is like peak brawler combat. Coming straight from Bayonetta 3 which has great combat too I'd have to flip a coin to decide which has better combat at this point. Which is the highest praise I can give any GoW game in combat.

When you git gud at Ragnarok's combat and you're blazing through arenas with no-damage entire fights, fucking up everything in your way, it's incredibly satisfying. Love how you gotta keep moving, use the environment, mix up attacks, parry/shield bash, dodge, etc...just a really great flow to the combat. The moves have great weight and impact and the DS5 haptics work really well.


It helps I actually like the story stuff in this one. So great combat + engaging story/characters + great gfx/music + some good puzzles and lots of secrets + some light metroidvania design all clicks really well for me. But at the same time I get bored if sections are too linear without the chance to go off-route and solve a few puzzles. The beginning of the game was like that and the Angroboda section was like that. The best parts are the more open-world bits of each realm where you can explore around solving puzzles and doing sidequests and fighting optional bosses.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 28, 2022, 03:08:00 AM
The best parts are the more open-world bits of each realm where you can explore around solving puzzles and doing sidequests and fighting optional bosses.
100%. I imagine the next game on better hardware will lean harder into that content. Or at least I hope so.

Game is good. The berserkers are fun, they giving me Crucible Knight vibes. It's probably the mid-air hover followed up by a dive bomb.

I enjoyed Ironwood as a change of pace but I wouldn't want to replay it after knowing what it is all about. I doubt I'll touch this again after I get the platinum.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 28, 2022, 05:33:43 AM
Fair enough, but it's not like scripted sequences that play themselves is new to AAA gaming or even the God of War franchise. Just throwing a QTE prompt here and there doesn't make it gameplay.

I feel this is highly disingenuous. Usually there's still a fail state or some form of interactivity. Like 66% of this game literally plays itself. I'm not just talking about the QTEs.

I was in the Vanaheim section and there's this pit with spikes. You can't fall in and the jumping is automated. What is the fucking point? Any climbing section might pretty much be a cutscene. The original games had combat on those, sliding down and avoiding obstacles. What does this have? Nothing. Pushing forward on the boat, goat or whatever to listen to exposition. That isn't gameplay. Just make it a cutscene, then I can at least skip all that garbage on a subsequent playthrough.

Even Let's Cyber that says he's enjoying the game doesn't want to play it again after 100%. Sign of a fantastic game that is. This has been the absolute worst of this kind of design. At least Last of Us Part 2 had the decency to give the combat arenas it's own section in the menu that if you want to just go through the gameplay sections, you can.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on November 28, 2022, 07:46:16 AM
Now that I think about it, can you actually fail any of the QTEs in the new games? Or does it auto-complete or just awkwardly linger like the Avengers game?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 28, 2022, 08:04:23 AM
Depends on the QTE. Game basically has a mix of all. The Freya setpiece at the start has bits that play itself and some that ask for player input. There's some that awkwardly linger like the Avengers game.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 29, 2022, 12:24:12 AM
Fair enough, but it's not like scripted sequences that play themselves is new to AAA gaming or even the God of War franchise. Just throwing a QTE prompt here and there doesn't make it gameplay.

I feel this is highly disingenuous. Usually there's still a fail state or some form of interactivity. Like 66% of this game literally plays itself. I'm not just talking about the QTEs.

I was in the Vanaheim section and there's this pit with spikes. You can't fall in and the jumping is automated. What is the fucking point? Any climbing section might pretty much be a cutscene. The original games had combat on those, sliding down and avoiding obstacles. What does this have? Nothing. Pushing forward on the boat, goat or whatever to listen to exposition. That isn't gameplay. Just make it a cutscene, then I can at least skip all that garbage on a subsequent playthrough.

Even Let's Cyber that says he's enjoying the game doesn't want to play it again after 100%. Sign of a fantastic game that is. This has been the absolute worst of this kind of design. At least Last of Us Part 2 had the decency to give the combat arenas it's own section in the menu that if you want to just go through the gameplay sections, you can.

Have you played like...any AAA game in the last 5 years?

If this climbing might as well be a cutscene I can't think of a single AAA game where climbing is not that. This isn't Tomb Raider where you can fail jumps. Platforming has been automatic in AAA since like Prince of Persia 2008.

Saying the game plays itself any more than your average game seems silly. The majority of the game time is spent in combat and no, that doesn't play itself. Figuring out puzzles doesn't play itself given how many times I've had to google solutions.

Honestly it feels like you should probably just cut your losses at this point if you're disliking the game so much already. You've seen the formula and if you don't care for it, it's not going to get any better.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 29, 2022, 12:27:30 AM
The best parts are the more open-world bits of each realm where you can explore around solving puzzles and doing sidequests and fighting optional bosses.
100%. I imagine the next game on better hardware will lean harder into that content. Or at least I hope so.

Yeah, the open-world non-linear gameplay areas feel a bit like Elden Ring with it's go around and do small puzzles, fights, bosses and a good deal like Uncharted Lost Legacy.

If they were starting design right now on the next God of War title, they'd probably look at Elden Ring since the open-world stuff here is already a bit of that. I can see the next game being structured similarly to Elden Ring with a giant sandbox map filled with puzzles and fights and collectibles and loot and then legacy dungeons to block progression at certain points for main story.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on November 29, 2022, 04:00:33 AM
I honestly don't know how you can make climbing non-automatic without turning it into a controls shitshow like RDR2.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 29, 2022, 01:16:14 PM

Have you played like...any AAA game in the last 5 years?

If this climbing might as well be a cutscene I can't think of a single AAA game where climbing is not that. This isn't Tomb Raider where you can fail jumps. Platforming has been automatic in AAA since like Prince of Persia 2008.

Saying the game plays itself any more than your average game seems silly. The majority of the game time is spent in combat and no, that doesn't play itself. Figuring out puzzles doesn't play itself given how many times I've had to google solutions.

Honestly it feels like you should probably just cut your losses at this point if you're disliking the game so much already. You've seen the formula and if you don't care for it, it's not going to get any better.

Did you read my comment? Since I pointed out Last of Us Part 2.

Prince of Persia 2008 had you time your jumps. Elika saving you is the fail state. This literally has you following a painted line and a giant circle prompt for when Kratos can jump. I don't decide when to jump. The game does. And how is another game having dogshit traversal an excuse for this game then having even worse traversal. Uncharted 4 had these dogshit climbing sections as well, but then it also had stuff like the Madagascar level where the climbing and combat worked in tandem. An actual great section. When does the climbing in this game ever add anything to the game? The Huntress at the start of the game gave me some hope of them actually improving the climbing sections by having something happen while on them. Nope, that was the only time so far. I'm not asking for depth. I'm asking for it to do more than just be a glorified loading screen. Loading screens that take way too long.

In this game, when you have to follow an npc it sometimes literally locks you into whatever the game wants you to do. When I got back from the Vanaheim section I wanted to check the blue chest to check for missed loot. No no no, you can't do that. First you gotta listen to one of the dwarves spout some shit. You know, the characters I planned to talk to anyway after looting the chest since they function as the weapon shop. Give me some fucking agency. And when it doesn't lock you into what it wants you to do, it has the NPCs commenting on it. "It's this way Kratos, follow me." Dear lord, shut up. I'm trying to have fun here. Then they make fun of you for trying to engage with the parts of the game you actually enjoy. "My dad sometimes does that." "He likes loot." "He must've seen a nornir chest." Yes, haha. Funny joke. Keep repeating it... It actively makes me hate these characters.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 29, 2022, 04:28:41 PM
/shrug, I'm not sure how the climbing in Last of Us 2 is necessarily any better or challenging than in God of War.

You seem like you're saying adding a fail state makes these auto-games/qtes suddenly good. I disagree. I don't think being able to fail a QTE vs a QTE that just sits there until you complete it makes a lick of a difference. QTEs have always just been a cutscene where you mash a button here and there. Platforming for AAA stuff has been totally on-rails with it being near impossible to fall since PoP 2008 and Uncharted 1. Last of Us is still just follow the path narrative platforming.

The stuff where the game takes away control for a conversation is a thing. But at this point it just seems like you hate the game and everything is bitch eating crackers for ya. I really think you should just drop it rather than hate finish it for completion, but it's your time.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 30, 2022, 03:32:58 AM
/shrug, I'm not sure how the climbing in Last of Us 2 is necessarily any better or challenging than in God of War.

You seem like you're saying adding a fail state makes these auto-games/qtes suddenly good. I disagree. I don't think being able to fail a QTE vs a QTE that just sits there until you complete it makes a lick of a difference. QTEs have always just been a cutscene where you mash a button here and there. Platforming for AAA stuff has been totally on-rails with it being near impossible to fall since PoP 2008 and Uncharted 1. Last of Us is still just follow the path narrative platforming.

The stuff where the game takes away control for a conversation is a thing. But at this point it just seems like you hate the game and everything is bitch eating crackers for ya. I really think you should just drop it rather than hate finish it for completion, but it's your time.

Did I mention Last of Us 2 having good climbing? You're responding to shit that isn't there. It's directly pointed towards you asking me if I played any triple A game in the last 5 years. I said Last of Us 2 had a menu where you can pick the combat sections so you don't have to deal with the shit that isn't gameplay. I said Uncharted 4 had some sections where it actually incorporates the climbing into the gameplay. You know, stuff I think is actual good game design.

The second part of yours makes no sense to me as a gamer. If my input doesn't matter, why be a game at all. Just have it be a cutscene so I can skip that garbage on a second playthrough. In other games this stuff also doesn't take up to 10 minutes at a time. Usually a QTE is like a quick capstone to combat showing you something that can't be done through regular gameplay and then you get back to the game. Here you are watching a cutscene which then randomly pops up a QTE. Once again, other games doing this shit badly isn't an excuse for this to also do it badly.

I hate the main meat of the game. I thought some of the side-content was alright. I see people talking up the part of the game called The Crater. I'll at least keep playing till I get to that. The game reeks of squandered potential. If that part is as good as people talk it up to be, it's basically confirmation of that. There has to be a better way to tell a narrative in a game than this. Imagine a movie where parts of it are spent just reading a book instead.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on November 30, 2022, 02:19:46 PM
I hate the main meat of the game.

Yeah, this is game isn't your thing. Fair enough.

From what I'm seeing in audience response, Ragnarok is a divisive game. People love it or hate it. Really just depends on if it clicks. Where I'm at about 25 hours in now, it's probably around the 3rd best game I've played this year and sitting around an 8.5/10 for me. With some tightening could easily be a 9/10 game. I think it's probably the 2nd best game in the franchise after God of War II and is a good comeback for a franchise that's been stale for a while. I don't hold this franchise up on a pedestal outside that game and I've played them all including the PSP ones. I think this is a step in the right direction and makes me excited about their next game which hopefully corrects some of the mistakes in this one and expands on the best parts.

And this is coming from someone that greatly disliked GoW 2018 and some of Sony's recent AAA offerings like Horizon FW. But I also like all the Uncharted games/Last of Us and the Naughty Dog AAA formula works for me and Ragnarok borrows heavily from it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on December 03, 2022, 03:34:58 AM
Had to buy a new DualSense, the stick drift was becoming unbearable. I tried cleaning it out but to no avail.

I think my first ps4 controller only lasted around 18 months, so this one made it a little further.  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on December 03, 2022, 04:30:22 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMRJG4W8POk

Summer 2023 boys.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on December 03, 2022, 08:22:26 AM
no
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 03, 2022, 08:42:40 AM
I'll play it for half an hour for the cringe if it comes to soypass :trumps
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on December 03, 2022, 10:40:29 PM
30 hours into Ragnarok and I'm still going "fuck, I love this game"

Pretty impressed with everything. This, Elden Ring and Signalis are pretty close for GoTY for me. Probably gonna end up being my favorite GoW game in the franchise and one of the better action adventures. I keep hoping there's dozens and dozens of hours more of content even though I'm getting towards the end of it. But can't really complain about getting 30-50 hours of this quality even if it's not 70-100 like Elden Ring.

I'm really impressed by a lot of things in Ragnarok, but one thing I haven't mentioned is the variety of enemy types. This game has a fuckload of enemies, coming from Bayonetta 3 this creams that. Since so much of Ragnarok's combat is about learning enemy patterns for parries and dodges and various weakpoint openings, having tons of enemy types and quite a few bosses is really enjoyable. I did one of those optional sword hilt fights and was out of rage going in so couldn't cheese or heal. Took me about 15 mins of 4-6 tries, but by the end parried/dodged every attack and was satisfying.

One thing that makes the combat 10x more difficult is that you don't have i-frames during your special cooldown moves or even during the shield special. I don't mind this, but it makes combat more strategic because you've got to be aware of what will stagger enemies and what won't so you're going to eat the damage if you do the special. Like during that green hilt fight I tried switching to the big shield to block yellows to not have to perfect parry them all. The tough part of the fight was actually getting rid of the charge up from blocking those before the next one comes since double tapping to get rid of the charge with shield slam locks you into a canned animation that you can eat damage during. Was pretty interesting. Ended up going back to my parry shield and just perfect parrying all the yellows, but there's a lot of strategy in the combat.

Combat-wise, the only thing throwing me off is

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I completely suck with the spear. It feels way weaker than the axe and chains and doesn't have the AoE spread of the chains. It's a ranged weapon for fights where you often have enemies rushing your face from every direction. I just get destroyed whenever I use the spear.

I'm sure there's a good way to use it, still getting the hang of it. Honestly didn't think the game would introduce a 3rd weapon which was one of my few complaints that for a character action game there's only two weapons. Though the shield is deep enough with its customization and different types to be a half-weapon on its own. Anyhow, didn't expect a 3rd weapon so it's cool to have even if I'm not being impressed by it.
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Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on December 03, 2022, 10:46:15 PM
To be clear, I really like the story, the characters (so many, and some are pretty well done), the combat, the character customization, the level design, the puzzles, the mini-sandboxes, the art direction, the music, the size of it and amount of content.

I think the pace bogs a few bits like the Angraboda section which so far is still the weakest section the whole game, and the camera is still not the greatest for combat at times dealing with all these indicators. The codex entries are all boring as fuck and not worth reading even though the art sketches are good. It's not a perfect game, but it's a pretty damn great one.


And yeah, the customization of the weapons is super, super good in how many builds you can make. The amount of depth they put into these weapons and skills and perks is extremely impressive for what the combat system is.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on December 04, 2022, 09:56:33 AM
I wouldn't call this Asgard section any better so far. The game also had the most amazing section in store for me, since I love the climbing so much. The stupid over the shoulder camera being so close you can't even take in the splendour of it all also really helped. For the love of god, zoom that shit out sometimes.

"Look at this amazing scenery" My dude, this FOV is like I'm looking at the world through a toilet paper roll. I can't see anything that isn't directly in front of me.

They really need to drop this one-take style for the next game. It's the sole reason all this time wasting shit is in the game. Just cut to the next scene. The game also has a terrible penchant for constantly telling you stuff but not showing anything. "Oh, I can't believe what Fimbulwinter has done to this realm." Bitch, this is the first time I'm seeing the place. I'll take your word for it I guess? Give me something to care about.

The second open ended area in Alfheim was the first section I actually enjoyed. Throwing a bunch of optional bosses at you. Throwing one or two enemies at you at a time, as you duke it out. Whenever they throw more at you, it has these dogshit sniper/projectile enemies which aren't fun to fight and basically take you out of the flow of the combat.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on December 04, 2022, 01:07:32 PM
I mean, those are the adventure games parts in this action/adventure. It's a hybrid of an action game, an rpg, a ubisoft collectible checklist, and a story-based adventure game.

The old games were just...action games. They're doing very different things.

I can see fans of action games who don't like rpgs and their cutscenes or don't PnC adventure games with lots of dialogue exposition and just walking around talking to people, not liking this change in direction. I like all those genre so it works for me. I thought Asgard was good because it was a lot of major central characters talking. Like when you play a Metal Gear game and you get scenes with the bad guys.

I get your complaint that if all these sections are essentially just long cutscenes, then why not just make them a cutscene that you can pause and skip. But ever since like...Half-life 2 gaming has pushed getting away from cutscenes and instead had you walk through cutscenes as they occur in real-time around you. The idea being the latter is more immersive than just watching a cutscene. But it also has its downsides like not being able to skip.

I definitely feel like as opposed to an action game or character action game that you play 3-4 times on different difficulty levels, Ragnarok is designed for a single playthrough. It's long and more like an ubisoft game and I'm guessing after you beat it you can just back in and keep playing and finish off all the checklist stuff. You can also adjust the difficulty on the fly. I complained that Bayonetta 3 being 25 hours for the first run was stupid because character action games with replay value should be like 8-12 hours and then 3-4 hours on NG+ runs. Ragnarok is like a 40 hour+ game. It's not meant to be replayed. When you think AC Valhalla or Odyssey, do you think about your next run from scratch? No, if you want to play more you jump back in and if they're GAAS they keep adding content like Valhalla. Otherwise you finish everything out and then you're done, on to the next game. Come back in 5-10 years when you've forgotten most of it to experience the whole thing again.

I don't think any of that's bad, it's just a different type of game from the original GoWs. It's also different in that the original games were like GO KILL GODS ONE AFTER ANOTHER AND GET POWERS FROM THEM megaman style. With 2018 I was like this is boring when do I get to kill gods and it wasn't until the Magni/Modi stuff halfway that the game took off at all. Ragnarok's story is not an epic battle of fighting Norse gods rah rah rah. It's just an adventure with a cast of characters in this world with a lot of gods. It's pretty different and Ragnarok could almost ditch the God of War series name and be an original IP. Which is fine, it's a good story and I'm enjoying it. Probably the best father/son tale I've seen in gaming.

Ragnarok is just a different kind of game than its predecessors and that's not going to be for everyone and that's ok.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on December 04, 2022, 01:51:06 PM
The Crater is the best part of the game, IMO. No spoilers, but it's obvious why once you get there and start exploring. I just wish more of the game had been like that.

It might be 50+ hours for the platinum for me, a lot of dying on some of these optional bosses. I would not recommend playing this on GMGOW or No Mercy. Even weak mob enemies have a ton of super armor and it just becomes obnoxious after a while, especially during the combat trials.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on December 04, 2022, 02:21:08 PM
Yeah, I'm finding the game a good challenge but fair on standard difficulty. Then again I'm probably tackling some of these optional bosses underleveled since if you can dodge and parry everything you can still win even if you die in 2-3 hits.

Curious about this crater section. I guess I'll see soon enough. I'm still cleaning up side stuff after getting the last metroidvania upgrade (I think).

Cyber, any tips for

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using the spear efficiently in combat?
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Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on December 04, 2022, 02:40:12 PM
I can see fans of action games who don't like rpgs and their cutscenes or don't PnC adventure games with lots of dialogue exposition and just walking around talking to people, not liking this change in direction. I like all those genre so it works for me. I thought Asgard was good because it was a lot of major central characters talking. Like when you play a Metal Gear game and you get scenes with the bad guys.

I get your complaint that if all these sections are essentially just long cutscenes, then why not just make them a cutscene that you can pause and skip. But ever since like...Half-life 2 gaming has pushed getting away from cutscenes and instead had you walk through cutscenes as they occur in real-time around you. The idea being the latter is more immersive than just watching a cutscene. But it also has its downsides like not being able to skip.

Except the same base gameplay is still intact in Half-Life 2's cutscene sections. I can look around the environments and interact with objects. Here I'm sometimes not even allowed to push the camera left or right. I imagine this is also because of the dogshit one-take camera system. Oh no... Kratos/Atreus looking the wrong way might mess up our bespoke animation that's meant to play at this trigger point. It's like they took away the wrong point from Half-Life 2's way of handling cutscenes. It's how all this is implemented that rubs me the wrong way.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on December 04, 2022, 05:05:48 PM
Cyber, any tips for

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using the spear efficiently in combat?
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I usually use the charged throw for bigger enemies at a distance and standard combos for smaller things until I can R3 them. The normal combo does big stun damage on smaller enemies. Also keep in mind it has its own skill tree and it needs to be leveled up to unlock all its moves, so it will get better.

It becomes more viable when you get some of the really good runic skills, especially the big AoE heavy runics.

 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on December 04, 2022, 09:35:31 PM
Ok, this sisters of Illska optional boss with 3 bosses at once and tracking projectiles is all kinds of bullshit. I literally die in like 10 seconds at power level 5-6.

Might need to come back to this at the very end when stronger.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on December 04, 2022, 10:39:47 PM
Also, some of the legacy dungeons are not really designed well for backtracking. I'm missing a chest/raven/lore at the Alfheim tower dungeon and spent like 10 mins trekking all the way back to the top only to find a spot where the story took me through a section and now it's impossible to go any further.

Will probably just grab some more checklist stuff and then finish the story and use a guide to find some of this stuff after the ending.

And yeah, most of the optional stuff at this point has level 6/7/8 enemies and I feel like I don't do enough damage with my lvl.5 weapons. Might as well save this stuff for post-game.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on December 05, 2022, 02:31:25 PM
So they finally released photo mode for Ragnarok today.

It's really odd it wasn't there from the start. Game is gorgeous and I've taken a million screenshots already but was always surprised there was no standard photo mode for an attractive visual game like this. I guess it has to do with hiding stuff in the environment and locking the camera at bits, but they normally just disabled moving the camera in photo mode during those parts like real-time cutscenes.

Will mess around with it as I finish the endgame.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on December 11, 2022, 01:42:21 AM
I don't like The Crater  :lol
Not done yet, finished The Jungle 100% and working through The Plains still. I don't have an issue with the fights or anything, I just think the level design is a pain in the fucking ass and not very fun to try to find everything. True open world only works if you can actually like jump aka Elden Ring or BoTW. Being corraleld down these set paths but then having to find your way around when it mostly all looks the same is just super confusing navigation and honestly I prefer the simple "here is a boat/sled, go to each unique landmass you see and there will be one thing to do at it, then go to the next" to this structure.

Vanaheim as a whole with its night/day mechanic is my least favorite realm in the game, though unfortunately it's also the largest one in content. I think the way the mechanic is handled is bad since it's confusing and hard to tell what's changed. I also think the hex arrow puzzles are kind of janky. That's about the only negatives I have against any of the mechanics in the game.

Also I feel generally underleveled a bit. I don't like how the lvl.6+ upgrades for the weapons are locked behind finding all these small side content items. I'm missing like 1 chaos spark still, and 1 wind gale spark, and only a couple for the axe and it's annoying being kept down in damage with my lvl.5 weapons when fighting lvl.7 power level guys in The Crater because I haven't found some collectible. I think if it's not in the main story, weapon upgrades should've been tied to major sidequests so you do the sidequest you get a weapon upgrade, the end. Keep it simple.

Will finish up The Crater, then maybe attempt the Musphelim trials (they just seem like they'll be annoying), and then finish the story.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on December 11, 2022, 04:54:35 AM
Finished up the three Crater areas 100%. It was fun, but not my favorite area. Level design was just too weird. Some fun boss fights in it though. Also helped me get my weapons to 6/7 and my armor to 7.

Will finish up the story tomorrow.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on December 11, 2022, 02:19:57 PM
Final Trials and last 2 optional bosses wrecked my shit.

I probably spent 2.5 hours on Gná and completely overhauled my build multiple times before biting the bullet and lowering the difficulty to balanced.

Idk, kind of a rough end to my experience.  :mjcry
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on December 11, 2022, 02:42:18 PM
 :(

Yeah, the trials look annoying. Which is different than hard. I'm ok with hard, but annoying stuff is not my thing. I'll see how they are but otherwise will do them post-game and if I can't finish them in a couple of tries will skip.

I feel like the difficulty modes don't do much? Like in Horizon 2 if you change to story mode you are GOD and kill everything in like 2 hits and are invincible which is what I think of as story mode difficulties. But put Ragnarok on story mode and go face a gravestone berserker fight and you might still die. The only difference seems like you take a bit less damage and do a bit more so you can eat a few extra hits and clear super armor faster. On one hand this sucks if you actually are bad at the game and want a story mode experience to just blow through everything. Otoh, I am not going to feel bad if I gotta drop to story mode to get through some of the last optional shit because I don't have the patience.

Like that trio berserker fight in Alfheim? I'll give it another shot post-game on balanced, but if it's still complete bullshit like it was when I tried it at power lvl.5, story mode clear it is for that fight.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on December 11, 2022, 04:53:11 PM
One thing that I think took a while for me to understand because it's the ONE combat system with no tutorial which is bizarre, is that from about midway through the game getting your L1+triangle weapon gauge going is where your real damage increase comes from. When I'm able to keep that going bosses go down so fast. So focusing on builds around building that up and keeping it going seem pretty important.

Then again stuff like increasing build up for combo finishers doesn't really help on bosses that won't let you get the last slow hit of a combo finisher off because they'll move between hit stuns during the windup. So idk. Then you have stuff like increased runic attack damage while the gauge is full but you don't use it and that seems mixed message. I like the amulet that slows down the loss of the gauge when you do get hit (which I think is the same one as combo finishers having increased build up).

Basically using that one + enhanced dodge and mix and match one more depending on what I'm fighting. For the first 2 sets of 3 I use melee damage+ when over 75% health and melee damage+ when under 50% health to pretty constantly have a damage buff going, though without actual numbers it's hard to tell how much these buffs are worth having.

Like I really liked the chest piece that gives +15% damage for each runic attack and stacks up to 3 times. So if you keep switching between weapons using runic attacks and if you have some stuff lowering cooldown you're constantly running around with +15%-+45% damage at all times. But after the Dragon mail that gives strength/defense buffs every block/parry I changed to that since I parry more often than I use runic attacks. But hard to tell how much damage those buffs are buffing in comparison. Wish the skills have more numbers like the +15% chest piece to have a better idea of min/maxing.

For arms/waist I'm just using cooldown lowering stuff so I can keep using runic attacks often.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on December 11, 2022, 08:07:52 PM
Wait, the "final challenges" -> fight 99 guys...was only ONE of six? I thought that was the last challenge there was.

Yeah...it's not even the challenge, but having the time and patience to go through this. Probably don't care enough about a Platinum to bother. Will finish everything else and leave these last 5 final challenges.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on December 11, 2022, 09:41:32 PM
Alright, finished everything in the game possible besides the final challenges. Time to see where the story ends up.

After getting all the endgame gear, my combat strategy changed entirely into being based around the Berserker chestpiece that gives you damage+++ for a few seconds each realm shift and the handles for each weapon that start a realm shift on filling the gauge. Pretty much run a build focused on getting those gauges up as fast as possible then L1+triangle into realm shift -> massive damage for a few seconds -> change weapon and repeat over and over. The wrist/waist from the arena that increases the gauge fill up by 30% plus some amulet stuff are what I'm using.

Gotta say, the Berserker fights on balanced went from really fucking hard at lvl.5 to kinda easy at lvl.8-9 with this gear. The last handful I did at the end went down quick. The stupid trio one is the only one I had to drop the difficulty down for in the end. God, that fight sucked.

Also hate to say it, but Ragnarok is a poor Metroidvania in terms of backtracking around completing things. There aren't enough fast travel points and it's kind of boring getting between stuff. If they were going to make it like this they should have had twice the amount of fast travel spots.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on December 14, 2022, 01:13:11 PM
Final Trials and last 2 optional bosses wrecked my shit.

I probably spent 2.5 hours on Gná and completely overhauled my build multiple times before biting the bullet and lowering the difficulty to balanced.

Idk, kind of a rough end to my experience.  :mjcry

Got the Plat last night. 48ish hours total.

GNA was a really good fight EXCEPT her move where she leaps up and lands on you in a QTE. It seems like she can pull if it off when you're mid-combo on her and I had two good runs that failed because of that killing me. I guess you're just supposed to pay attention and if she jumps out of the screen when you're in a combo you need to roll the fuck away instantly.

Otherwise I thought the rest of her moves were pretty well telegraphed and reasonable to dodge/parry. Did end up using the mid-boss checkpoints for her and Berserker King. But still good fights. Berserker King was kinda forgettable. Fine fight, but just felt like various moves of the other Berserkers you'd already dealt with.

One issue that came up with a few Berserkers is I kind of hate enemies that jump away and do the blue moves because half the time I can't reach them in time if I run up and shield break and I eat the attack. I guess I should have been using the approaching shield on those bosses since it runs towards? I just stuck with Dauntless.

On the Berserker King he has some move in the 2nd half where he hangs in the air and does a big 1/2 HP bifrost attack. Seems unblockable, undodgeable and has no color signals. Maybe I was supposed to throw shit at him to interrupt it?

And on bosses I never figured out how Rage meter works. I stuck with Fury the whole game and it did jack shit damage on bosses wailing on them, but it regained about half a life bar of health and gave me some invincibility so I stuck with it. I used Valor a couple of times for the HP regen and I can see it being more useful but I hated the timing of trying to launch it right before an attack to maximize and I'd eat attacks and die sometimes so I stuck with Fury. Wrath seemed good on enemy mobs but wasn't sure it was applicable on bosses.

The final trials were....well the trials themselves were fine, the stupid repeating 2 lower trials over and over to unlock each final trial was a shit grind and should've been excised.

Also speaking of postgame grind

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The remnants of Asgard were stupid. The fights weren't even challenging mobs, just a few mobs of normal enemies. But doing that 10 times which included some backtracking to get around to these places was just a waste of time for nothing but to get the platinum trophy. This quest should've been skipped
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Otherwise great stuff. I'm more ok with the finale/ending of the game after another night of playing it postgame. I think the story could've been better, and Angraboda section is way too fucking long, but otherwise the game has so many great character moments. Lotta laughs and feels in this throughout, so I expected  the finale to be epic feels, but it's suprisingly a lot emptier than the strong moments before it. For example

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The scene before going to Ragnarok with Kratos and Atreus in his tent is 10x more dramatic than anything that actually happens in Ragnarok or the ending.
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The game is definitely about great moments. And being like 40-50 hours long there are plenty of those. The combat is also fucking awesome though the camera could still be better.

In the end with the combat I even ended up really liking

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The spear because of its speed. Became my go to weapon for quickly taking out grunts and interrupting enemies with spear throws.
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I was thinking the game was like 8.5/10 after the ending, but sleeping on it and getting back to some good combat and stuff the next day wrapping up the post-game I guess I'd give it a 9/10. It's a flawed game with some pretty legit flaws, and it's absolutely a game that symptomatic of the 200 person dev team AAA syndrome where you have like 9 writers and the you end up with logical inconsistencies between stuff. Too many cooks in the kitchen. But there's enough great quality game there that it's pretty awesome.

I hope the next God of War is a smaller team, shorter development, smaller and tighter game, but who am I kidding the next game is going to be Elden Ring GoW 75 hour game of mixed quality.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on December 14, 2022, 02:59:02 PM
The final trials were....well the trials themselves were fine, the stupid repeating 2 lower trials over and over to unlock each final trial was a shit grind and should've been excised.
Yup. There was zero reason for this dumb filler.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on December 15, 2022, 01:43:36 AM
I was shouting at the screen for Kratos to tear the head of the one god he actually kills. This scene was supposed to show the real God of War. Mimir acts in shock and I'm like: "The fuck is this shit?" The one scene where you are supposed to show how brutal Kratos is and it's basically him putting a child to bed and giving it a peck on the forehead.

"TEAR THEIR FUCKING HEAD OFF!!!"
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on December 15, 2022, 08:06:30 AM
https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1603178594557079552

 :dsp I need a PSVR2 at launch now.

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Making full use of the PlayStation VR2, you’ll be wholly immersed when playing Resident Evil Village with this DLC. Visually, the vivid graphics of the 4K HDR display (2000×2040 per eye) and eye tracking produces a heightened perception of reality as if everything you see is actually there. 3D audio enhances the realism with audio from every angle, and your sense of touch is enhanced via the PlayStation VR2 Sense controllers. With one controller in each hand, you can feel the vibration, recoil, and resistance as you interact with objects in the world and fire weapons.
:dsp
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The Sense controllers also enable intuitive movements like putting your arms up to guard and holding your gun out in front of you to shoot, and there are additional actions you can perform to heighten your immersion. Hold two weapons independently, load a clip into your handgun to reload, and wield your knife with slashing or stabbing attacks. It’s a truly captivating experience that puts you directly into the twisted world that Ethan Winters is fighting through.
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 :dsp :dsp
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on December 16, 2022, 10:36:17 AM
https://www.gematsu.com/2022/12/horizon-online-project-in-development-featuring-new-cast-and-stylized-look

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An online project set in the world of Horizon and featuring a new cast of characters and a “unique stylized” look is currently in development at Guerrilla Games, the company confirmed in a job post.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 16, 2022, 11:34:58 AM
So a MMO game or GAAS trash? I think they've missed the train on both of those, and free to play isn't sony's style at all :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on December 16, 2022, 01:17:47 PM
So a MMO game or GAAS trash? I think they've missed the train on both of those, and free to play isn't sony's style at all :doge
What I get from "unique stylized" is a cartoony Fortnite clone with a Horizon coat.  yuckitty yuck.  :yuck
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on December 16, 2022, 03:02:26 PM
The MMO is reportedly with NCSoft.

This project is a different thing. It's co-op based and probably closer to MonHun in concept.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 16, 2022, 09:34:34 PM
Dunno why you'd want to mess with the look of horizon, it's graphics are the main thing it has going for it, unless it's a phone game.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on December 18, 2022, 11:46:37 AM
Got the GOW Ragnarok platinum. (Only cause it's easy to get.) Like the last game, the one on one bosses were easily the best part. Encounter design in general still leaves a lot to be desired. Way too many enemies with projectiles which aren't fun to fight in the system they created. They had 4 years to improve on the first game and what they did was just not good enough. If I consider the first game like a 7/10 this is like a 6,5 to me.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on December 18, 2022, 04:12:17 PM
Got the GOW Ragnarok platinum. (Only cause it's easy to get.) Like the last game, the one on one bosses were easily the best part. Encounter design in general still leaves a lot to be desired. Way too many enemies with projectiles which aren't fun to fight in the system they created. They had 4 years to improve on the first game and what they did was just not good enough. If I consider the first game like a 7/10 this is like a 6,5 to me.

Well at least the good news is now you can move on to a game you actually enjoy.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on December 19, 2022, 01:45:49 AM
I feel like there's more potential to these games. The only reason I'd score the first one higher is because I see it as a proof of concept.

There's such an easy fix to some of the problems. It's like the Arkham games that use the over the shoulder camera but in combat encounters they zoom it way out so you actually have an overview of the combat arena. Why not do that? You don't have to break the one-take nature of the game for that. It also instantly improve the second issue with the combat where you can only attack whichever way the camera is pointing. Have me do the pointing on the left stick. Rubberbanding on the attacks and enemies is also pretty bad. Both you and the enemy slide across the floor to make an attack hit, putting less importance on actually properly positioning yourself. Unless they really want to go for the God Hand brawler type style. Then a lot of the enemy encounters'd need an overhaul.

Maybe they'll nail it on the third game. Although I'm expecting them to overhaul the entire series again if we're moving on to another pantheon.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on December 22, 2022, 04:14:57 PM
Stellar Blade shows available to wishlist.  :phil

But that's it.  No price, date, pre-order, nothing.  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 03, 2023, 11:09:17 PM
I was able to order the disc version of the PS5 right off Sony’s website. Are they more available now? Either way I’m getting it on Thursday without a scalper.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on January 05, 2023, 09:00:11 AM
GT7 will get a free upgrade for PSVR2 at launch.   :success 

Also Beat Saber was announced for PSVR2.  :popular
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: archnemesis on January 05, 2023, 09:25:32 AM
With Beat Saber and Moss I'm interested in PSVR2 again. Now please announce an improved version of Astro Bot: Rescue Mission.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2023, 01:13:29 AM
What games are the reason to get a ps5 over a Xbox Series X if Sony first exclusives really don't interest me? Like, SFVI, Tekken 8, etc. are all on pc or xbox and will mutli system online.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 16, 2023, 04:58:14 AM
Both Final Fantasy games this year are exclusive
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: remy on January 16, 2023, 06:17:06 AM
Both Final Fantasy games this year are exclusive

And the bullshit is fucking working on me because I want one for that reason.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2023, 01:54:38 PM
Both Final Fantasy games this year are exclusive

Final Fantasy and I are done. Anything else?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 16, 2023, 02:02:10 PM
Idk but theres nothing 'hot' coming to xbox thats exclusive really besides forza 8 and that bethesda space game.

Games that have barely had anything shown so far either :teehee
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2023, 02:31:40 PM
Idk but theres nothing 'hot' coming to xbox thats exclusive really besides forza 8 and that bethesda space game.

Games that have barely had anything shown so far either :teehee

Most games worth playing these days are third party and most Sony games worth playing come to PC. Stay on topic please.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on January 16, 2023, 02:37:04 PM
Both Final Fantasy games this year are exclusive

Final Fantasy and I are done. Anything else?
Really? Did you not like FFVIIR?  Otherwise, unless you got the time and energy to gobble up GamePass, there's really no reason to have a XB over a PS5.  I'd still wait until that must play pops up on the horizon.  Also, may want to wait till a smaller version of the PS5 comes out.  It's unecesarily too large.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on January 16, 2023, 02:40:23 PM
I would say there's not much difference between the PS5 and Series X but I can't help but notice that the Xbox is missing a lot of games lately that are announced for PS5, PS5+Switch or PS4+Switch.
It's clear that for Japanese third parties PlayStation is still the platform of choice if a Nintendo system can't run their game.

A console is sort of a long term investment especially this generation which is expected to run until the fall of 2028 (or at least that's what Microsoft thinks according to files from the Actiblizz take-over lawsuit).
Then again there's also the part where you want to play things now and at this time the PS5 has a stronger line-up. You can't go wrong with either system.

Xbox biggest ace in the hole is GamePass but there haven't been many releases as of late.
 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2023, 02:56:39 PM
Both Final Fantasy games this year are exclusive

Final Fantasy and I are done. Anything else?
Really? Did you not like FFVIIR?  Otherwise, unless you got the time and energy to gobble up GamePass, there's really no reason to have a XB over a PS5.  I'd still wait until that must play pops up on the horizon.  Also, may want to wait till a smaller version of the PS5 comes out.  It's unecesarily too large.

FFXVI looks like a Dmc or Soulslike. If they're going to turn them into action games I might as well just play action games instead. By making every rpg action based rpg developers have rendered video game rpgs redundant. If FFXVI is going to be a DMC clone I might as well get DMCV, something I've never played, instead. Video game rpgs are overwhelmingly stupid (to me) and I'd rather stick to tabletop. I'm kind of done with RPGs with few exceptions and FFVIIr was one of those exceptions. If you showed me FFXVI in 2000 I wouldn't even think it was a Final Fantasy. As it is, it doesn't look like FF to me and it's time to pass the torch to the new generation and I have zero interest supporting the franchise any longer.

I have absolutely zero interest in RPGs, much less jrpgs. This entire past year I've mostly played shooters. Less bloat, more lean, more respect for my time, no stupid quests. Playing Gears of War 2 now.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2023, 03:10:21 PM
I would say there's not much difference between the PS5 and Series X but I can't help but notice that the Xbox is missing a lot of games lately that are announced for PS5, PS5+Switch or PS4+Switch.
It's clear that for Japanese third parties PlayStation is still the platform of choice if a Nintendo system can't run their game.

A console is sort of a long term investment especially this generation which is expected to run until the fall of 2028 (or at least that's what Microsoft thinks according to files from the Actiblizz take-over lawsuit).
Then again there's also the part where you want to play things now and at this time the PS5 has a stronger line-up. You can't go wrong with either system.

Xbox biggest ace in the hole is GamePass but there haven't been many releases as of late.



I'd prefer a system with BC. Haven't played RE7,8, RE2make, ore RE3make for example.

Xbox series X boosting backwards compat games and making Morrowind 60fps is too good to pass up.

Also Psychonauts 2

Returnal looks cool.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Beezy on January 16, 2023, 04:37:52 PM
Otherwise, unless you got the time and energy to gobble up GamePass, there's really no reason to have a XB over a PS5.
I've never seen the high quantity of games on GamePass used as a negative before.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on January 16, 2023, 04:50:16 PM
Both Final Fantasy games this year are exclusive

Final Fantasy and I are done. Anything else?
Really? Did you not like FFVIIR?  Otherwise, unless you got the time and energy to gobble up GamePass, there's really no reason to have a XB over a PS5.  I'd still wait until that must play pops up on the horizon.  Also, may want to wait till a smaller version of the PS5 comes out.  It's unecesarily too large.

FFXVI looks like a Dmc or Soulslike. If they're going to turn them into action games I might as well just play action games instead. By making every rpg action based rpg developers have rendered video game rpgs redundant. If FFXVI is going to be a DMC clone I might as well get DMCV, something I've never played, instead. Video game rpgs are overwhelmingly stupid (to me) and I'd rather stick to tabletop. I'm kind of done with RPGs with few exceptions and FFVIIr was one of those exceptions. If you showed me FFXVI in 2000 I wouldn't even think it was a Final Fantasy. As it is, it doesn't look like FF to me and it's time to pass the torch to the new generation and I have zero interest supporting the franchise any longer.

I have absolutely zero interest in RPGs, much less jrpgs. This entire past year I've mostly played shooters. Less bloat, more lean, more respect for my time, no stupid quests. Playing Gears of War 2 now.
If you're into shooters, Returnal is straight fire and a total must play.  Playing any 3D shooter after it feels like playing in molases.  No bullshit, just run and gun with a speed and firepower like no other.   Sure, it's coming to PC, but it has higher requirements than your average PC port.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2023, 04:51:12 PM
Ratchet and Clank looks great.

I would consider PS5 for an mgs1 remake.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on January 16, 2023, 05:06:24 PM
Otherwise, unless you got the time and energy to gobble up GamePass, there's really no reason to have a XB over a PS5.
I've never seen the high quantity of games on GamePass used as a negative before.
It's not a bad thing at all for the price, there's just plenty of people that don't have the time to play so many games.   If they'd allow you to add games to your library, permanantly like PS Plus or any other digital store front, it'd be so much better.   Fuck playing games they're telling me to play in a limited time frame.   Sounds just as shitty as a streaming service. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on January 16, 2023, 05:24:03 PM
I'm riding out physical games until the end, so despite Sony going arrogant mode, PS5 was the only choice. I guess recently Xbox loosened its DRM a bit, but that ship has sailed from my view. Low loading times was also one of the bigger selling points for me in quite a while - admittedly though, some 3rd party games aren't yet using the SSD well. I applaud the digital backwards compatability of Xbox, which is the closest to the level of Steam, which all platform holders should strive for (and beyond tbh). I don't really care much for their libraries after the original Xbox though, so I will survive with keeping my original Xbox console for Ninja Gaiden and a few racing games. The occasional MS exclusive that interests me I will stream through PC Gamepass Ultimate every other year. Which brings me to the fact, that Playstation still has the Japanese support I'm most interested in on day1. Xbox seems to be catching up, I'll get Yakuza Ishin and Fatal Frame 4 next and they are multiplat. Yet there are still many games Xbox celebrates for coming to their platform 5 years later. I'm also not sure how many of those PS4/Switch games were ever on Steam? Point is, I don't have to worry about any of this on PS5.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2023, 05:29:17 PM
How is MS anti physical media?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on January 16, 2023, 05:35:09 PM
Discs were DRM-checked until a couple of months ago.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2023, 06:00:49 PM
Watched the game awards reveal trailers:

Space Marine II, Replaced, Street Fighter VI, Tekken 8, Remnant, Scars Above, Post Trauma, After Us are the best looking games. Scars Above and Post Trauma especially.

Judas looks cool but I have no idea what kind of game it is. I'm not buying a modern open-world game unless it's really, really, really legit. Atomic Heart looked great but I looked it up and it's an open world game. Pass.

The only PS game that looked like it was worth something more than a glance was Viewfinder which looked fantastic and reminiscent of old PS.

All of these games besides Viewfinder are on Xbox Series X. Series X it is then. Game pass, backwards compat, game boost, cheaper price, stronger hardware. Can't be beat. And the games that are PS exclusive are on Steam anyways. Thanks everyone.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on January 16, 2023, 06:18:23 PM
Stronger hardware is debatable, both systems have their pro's and cons but the memory bandwith is a serious issue on Xbox Series X (plus the Series S spec holding back first party games).
For some reason the Xbox Series X punches below it's weight, the Matrix Unreal Engine 5 demo ran better on PS5 as does Elden Ring. There is other examples too, Ray Tracing often performs better on PS5.

Still at $500 these consoles are great value considering what AMD and Nvidia are doing right now in the PC space but in the 3rd year we're still early in the generation.  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2023, 06:46:23 PM
Oh, that's what it seemed like from what i saw: Series X was more powerful.

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on January 16, 2023, 07:16:07 PM
Controllers are debatable too.  I live and die by PS controllers and their centered joysticks, while others swear by the off centered ones.  Guess it really depends on what type of games you play and how articulate your hands are.  Not sure about XB controllers, but the DS haptics do bring more to games than I thought they would initially.  Returnal for example, when it’s raining, you can feel the subtle drops.  In CP2077, when driving, you can feel the RPMS and the gears shifting.  It's a surprisingly awesome effect and really does add to the immersion.
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Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 16, 2023, 07:18:23 PM
My legit advice would be to get a ps5, cuz you will be sperging out about the inferior Japanese support in 6 months max :trumps
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2023, 08:02:52 PM
What Japanese support? lol All that shit is on PC and Switch.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on January 16, 2023, 08:04:17 PM
https://www.notebookcheck.net/PlayStation-5-standing-position-liquid-metal-leakage-is-a-case-of-concern-getting-lost-in-translation.681405.0.html
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on January 16, 2023, 08:56:52 PM
What Japanese support? lol All that shit is on PC and Switch.

If you can get a good PC, don't bother with either console and stick with that combo instead.  PC = Xbox but with more games including some of the Sony ones.  Switch for the Nintendo stuff.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on January 16, 2023, 09:25:54 PM
What Japanese support? lol All that shit is on PC and Switch.

If you can get a good PC, don't bother with either console and stick with that combo instead.  PC = Xbox but with more games including some of the Sony ones.  Switch for the Nintendo stuff.
:hesright
Just get a Steamdeck.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2023, 09:27:08 PM
What Japanese support? lol All that shit is on PC and Switch.

If you can get a good PC, don't bother with either console and stick with that combo instead.  PC = Xbox but with more games including some of the Sony ones.  Switch for the Nintendo stuff.

I would agree if not for things like Game pass. Xbox Game pass has many games that are Xbox exclusive that just aren't on PC and Xbox graphics boost for bc games is a better option than many pc games. The Morrowind version I mentioned is arguably the best way to play it. The only thing it lacks is mods. So Xbox has that over PC.

But yeah if I were being practical, PC plus Switch is the best combo.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 17, 2023, 01:33:53 AM
Just get whatever you want.

Playstation just like pretty much every other Playstation is the console that offers access to a good majority of games plus whatever exclusives are made for the system. If you don't want a console, then get a PC.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on January 18, 2023, 04:11:07 AM
Judas looks cool but I have no idea what kind of game it is.

It's supposed to be Ken Levine's spiritual succesor to System Shock 2/BioShock.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Himu on January 18, 2023, 04:16:01 AM
Judas looks cool but I have no idea what kind of game it is.

It's supposed to be Ken Levine's spiritual succesor to System Shock 2/BioShock.

open world?

Honestly it doesn't even matter. It looks too good and too creative to pass up.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on January 19, 2023, 04:12:12 PM
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/332545464610062337/1065663196498755604/8fc13cee03cef10600405ba3d9b53a3fdb906711.png?width=1214&height=683)
 :obama  Definitely a more solid launch lineup than PSVR1.  This is the calm before the Astrobot storm.  :hyper
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on January 19, 2023, 06:31:16 PM
After what Facebook did to Oculus as a 'brand' there's really an opportunity for Sony to eat their lunch in the VR space.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on January 19, 2023, 07:13:38 PM
Having GT7 be the full game in VR is the only thing tempting me to get a PSVR2, but will still wait for Astrobot.


Also it's always made sense for GT7 to be the full game in VR. I mean it's a PS4 game, there's plenty of overhead to run it on PS5 with slightly toned down PS4 visuals in VR.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on January 19, 2023, 08:13:16 PM
Having GT7 be the full game in VR is the only thing tempting me to get a PSVR2, but will still wait for Astrobot.


Also it's always made sense for GT7 to be the full game in VR. I mean it's a PS4 game, there's plenty of overhead to run it on PS5 with slightly toned down PS4 visuals in VR.
I'm not ready to bite just yet either.  Although I'm pretty hyped for RE8, I still want to see more.  No doubt Astrobot will seal the deal, but I'm still holding out in hopes that Bamco will update AC7 to be fully playable in VR.. it just needs to happen.  Especially after the success of Maverick last year.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on January 20, 2023, 05:59:38 AM
So I guess Asobo will make a VR game?

They should make DLC for Astro's Playroom :stahp

VR :nope
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on January 20, 2023, 07:41:49 AM
So I guess Asobo will make a VR game?

They should make DLC for Astro's Playroom :stahp

VR :nope
I think they're doing more than both.  My guess is a Rescue Mission 2 (or a full-on remake of RM1) and also an epic scale Playroom style adventure.  We need more than just a Playroom DLC. 

Have you not had a chance to try Rescue Mission?  Hater of VR or no, it's something everyone should experience.  It's the most unique and creative 3D platformer to date.  You'll have a smile on your face the entire time.  Mario can't hold a candle to it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on January 20, 2023, 02:20:33 PM
VR :nope

 :hesright
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tuckers Law on January 20, 2023, 03:02:18 PM
Not going to consider the headset at all unless they add backwards compatibility for the VR games they released with the first one.  Sony and their bullshit can fucking kick rocks til then.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on January 20, 2023, 03:14:23 PM
Not going to consider the headset at all unless they add backwards compatibility for the VR games they released with the first one.  Sony and their bullshit can fucking kick rocks til then.
It's not up to Sony, it's up to the devs, since the tech is completely different.  I hope more will follow suit and update their games to it... I can see them holding off to see how it performs sales-wise.  The price is a bit of a turn off.  Would really like to continue my Skyrim VR and DiRT campaigns on PSVR2.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tuckers Law on January 20, 2023, 03:44:22 PM
I don't know enough about VR tech to really comment, so I'll just clarify that I'm not asking for the VR1 games to be upressed or remastered; I'm only asking that I can play them as-is (ugly old textures and all) on my PS5 with a VR2 headset, just as I can right now with the VR1 headset.  That I apparently cannot do that with the VR2 headset smacks of the same bullshit attitude they have had in the last couple years with legacy console support on PSN, so I've been assuming for those games they want me to double-dip for any re-releases.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on January 20, 2023, 05:52:24 PM
I don't know enough about VR tech to really comment, so I'll just clarify that I'm not asking for the VR1 games to be upressed or remastered; I'm only asking that I can play them as-is (ugly old textures and all) on my PS5 with a VR2 headset, just as I can right now with the VR1 headset.  That I apparently cannot do that with the VR2 headset smacks of the same bullshit attitude they have had in the last couple years with legacy console support on PSN, so I've been assuming for those games they want me to double-dip for any re-releases.
I feel ya.  Yeah, I guess I'm just thankful certain games are being transferred/ported.  It's definitely not as bad of a sever as the jump from PS3 to PS4 was... Or 3DS to Switch.  I'm honestly shocked that the GT7 upgrade is free. lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Polident Hive on January 20, 2023, 06:24:22 PM
My whole hang up with VR is I see it as a display. But it’s its own platform across different vendors and generations. I understand the ways PSVR1 to PSVR2 are different, tracking and operation and all. Mentally I still see it as buying a new monitor.

I may invest in PSVR2 depending on how it plays with PCs. Idea I can’t play RE4 VR unless I invest in different headset is weird to me.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on January 20, 2023, 07:00:33 PM
My whole hang up with VR is I see it as a display. But it’s its own platform across different vendors and generations. I understand the ways PSVR1 to PSVR2 are different, tracking and operation and all. Mentally I still see it as buying a new monitor.

I may invest in PSVR2 depending on how it plays with PCs. Idea I can’t play RE4 VR unless I invest in different headset is weird to me.
It currently doesn't look too promising.  :doge
https://www.roadtovr.com/psvr-2-no-steam-vr-support-compatible/

You reminded me that RE4 will have some VR intergration for PSVR2 as well.  The full game being playable in VR is most likely a no-go, but definitely curious what it'll be.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tuckers Law on January 20, 2023, 07:20:42 PM
My whole hang up with VR is I see it as a display. But it’s its own platform across different vendors and generations. I understand the ways PSVR1 to PSVR2 are different, tracking and operation and all. Mentally I still see it as buying a new monitor.

I may invest in PSVR2 depending on how it plays with PCs. Idea I can’t play RE4 VR unless I invest in different headset is weird to me.

Okay yeah, that would be the one other way I'd entertain upgrading to a PSVR2: if I can use it with my PC without having to do software workarounds (official sony support would be ideal, but official steam support would be fine).
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on January 21, 2023, 04:55:41 AM
Judas looks cool but I have no idea what kind of game it is.

It's supposed to be Ken Levine's spiritual succesor to System Shock 2/BioShock.

open world?

Honestly it doesn't even matter. It looks too good and too creative to pass up.

Looks to be the kind of wide lineair System Shock and BioShock had. Big maps but lineair progression.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Polident Hive on January 26, 2023, 11:20:47 PM
Added an SSD to mine and it’s relatively cheap and easy aside from PS5 quirks I forgot about. The stand loosely hanging off the back. Getting the covers off feeling like you’re about to snap it. New one I discovered, the external HDD can’t be used with the front USB plugs.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on January 27, 2023, 10:05:33 AM
Added an SSD to mine and it’s relatively cheap and easy aside from PS5 quirks I forgot about. The stand loosely hanging off the back. Getting the covers off feeling like you’re about to snap it. New one I discovered, the external HDD can’t be used with the front USB plugs.
Yeah, the front USB being limited (I guess it's 2.0?) threw me off when setting up the PSVR.  Had to get a splitter for the back.  Works great with it now.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on January 31, 2023, 12:34:02 AM
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1620267792707760128


Yeah, they really over-estimated the consumer base that would be interested at that price. Like I get they wanted to make a premium quality product, but if they wanted to sell Oculus Quest 2 kinds of numbers, they needed to hit that Quest 2 kind of price (plus wireless if possible).

I just hope that PSVR2 bombing doesn't kill software support for it after a year. Probably won't pick one up for a few years until can tell if it'll be supported.

I wonder if they'll slash the price or if they're stuck because the components cost too much and they don't want to be taking massive losses on every unit sold.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tuckers Law on January 31, 2023, 01:26:35 AM
I know I'm a broken record about this, but Sony could have ameliorated some of this had they come out the gate with either backwards compatibility for VR1 games or PC compatibility (as unlikely as that would have been).  I know there are other VR1 headset owners like myself who even despite reservations were for the most part onboard (even at the premium price-tag) as long as they could meet at least one of those criteria.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on January 31, 2023, 09:43:11 AM
It's a shame, but their timing just kinda sucks.  They should've dropped it (with limited stock) for the holidays, or held the release till late Spring/early summer with more established; library and more BC updates prepped. 

Just did my taxes and was ready to drop down some for it, but just came back from the mechanic and will have to do around $1,200 worth of repairs.. :goty2  That definitely put me off of snagging one till maybe this next holiday.  Hopefully it'll drop at least $50 by then.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tuckers Law on January 31, 2023, 11:00:58 AM
Bummer about the repairs, that really sucks.  Depending on how they handle things, by next holiday you may very well be able to pick one up on major discount or some kind of good bundle.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on January 31, 2023, 12:00:14 PM
Bummer about the repairs, that really sucks.  Depending on how they handle things, by next holiday you may very well be able to pick one up on major discount or some kind of good bundle.
And hopefully something Astrobot!  :hyper
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on January 31, 2023, 03:07:24 PM
It's really odd that after launching the PS5 w/Astrobot they didn't have ANY type of Astrobot ready for PSVR2 launch. Not even an updated port of the original.

It's like they were banking entirely on Horizon being this huge IP that would move hardware, but Astrobot >>>>>>>>>> Horizon.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tuckers Law on January 31, 2023, 03:10:34 PM
Let's have Jumping Flash VR, put that new set through its paces and see if they can pull it off without making everyone vomit.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on February 02, 2023, 10:34:55 AM
https://youtu.be/fpnvFGObiKQ

I may have to pick up GT7 now...  :whoo I would much prefer a rally game, but if this is that good, this could scratch that itch until a proper rally games comes to PSVR2.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: chronovore on February 02, 2023, 07:01:37 PM
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1620267792707760128


Yeah, they really over-estimated the consumer base that would be interested at that price. Like I get they wanted to make a premium quality product, but if they wanted to sell Oculus Quest 2 kinds of numbers, they needed to hit that Quest 2 kind of price (plus wireless if possible).

I just hope that PSVR2 bombing doesn't kill software support for it after a year. Probably won't pick one up for a few years until can tell if it'll be supported.

I wonder if they'll slash the price or if they're stuck because the components cost too much and they don't want to be taking massive losses on every unit sold.
Getting a PS5 to begin with has been difficult to say the least. The subset of people who have a PS5 and also want another ¥80,000 acessory for it is a truly slim overlap in a venn diagram.



Let's have Jumping Flash VR, put that new set through its paces and see if they can pull it off without making everyone vomit.
People will vomit.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on February 04, 2023, 07:50:53 AM
I really wish Sony would have dropped this VR bullshit and stayed in the handheld realm.

 :yeshrug
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 04, 2023, 10:21:20 AM
I got a note that the free downloadable games on PS Plus is going away in May. Looks like I better get downloading…
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on February 04, 2023, 11:10:40 AM
I got a note that the free downloadable games on PS Plus is going away in May. Looks like I better get downloading…

You just have to add them to your library.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: archnemesis on February 04, 2023, 11:14:13 AM
It's the same with the monthly games. Adding them to your library is enough to keep them for as long as you pay for PS+.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on February 04, 2023, 11:22:53 AM
It's the same with the monthly games. Adding them to your library is enough to keep them for as long as you pay for PS+.

Nah, the PS collection that launched with PS5 is free forever once you add them to your library. You don't have to be subbed to PS+
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on February 04, 2023, 12:48:21 PM
It's the same with the monthly games. Adding them to your library is enough to keep them for as long as you pay for PS+.

Nah, the PS collection that launched with PS5 is free forever once you add them to your library. You don't have to be subbed to PS+

Source? Pretty sure you need to be PS+ to play them

The whole point of PS+ collection was to a) get people to sub to that service and b) get over the fact that ps5 had no games
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Polident Hive on February 04, 2023, 11:57:44 PM
Checked it myself just now. It’s asking to resub to PS Plus basic to play those games I redeemed. But at least it’s not like the PS gamepass tier where games come and go.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on February 05, 2023, 02:43:32 AM
It's the same with the monthly games. Adding them to your library is enough to keep them for as long as you pay for PS+.

Nah, the PS collection that launched with PS5 is free forever once you add them to your library. You don't have to be subbed to PS+

Source? Pretty sure you need to be PS+ to play them

The whole point of PS+ collection was to a) get people to sub to that service and b) get over the fact that ps5 had no games

Checked it myself just now. It’s asking to resub to PS Plus basic to play those games I redeemed. But at least it’s not like the PS gamepass tier where games come and go.

Source was other forum posts lol, that sucks.

I thought the PS collection was basically a freebie for "thank you for buying a PS5, here's a bunch of good PS4 games for free". Didn't realize it required PS+ to activate them.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Kurt Russell on February 06, 2023, 09:04:45 AM
If anybody wants to try beta discord integration and VRR 1440p, here's a code

spoiler (click to show/hide)
KM6D-PBNR-392L
[close]

Redeem code, go to settings / system and choose beta update.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on February 12, 2023, 07:50:51 PM
Uploaded a video of me beating the FF7R DLC superboss that I had saved on the console

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-js_sA4Jn0
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on February 12, 2023, 11:08:45 PM
FF7R battle system is so godlike. I'm so excited to play the sequel
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on February 15, 2023, 09:17:38 AM

 :lawd :mindblown :whoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6C95i1D1GE&ab_channel=PlayStation

 :mouf :ohyeah :dsp

(https://y.yarn.co/a61cb254-8f44-4f92-82a3-fe59b039e154_text.gif)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on February 15, 2023, 06:21:29 PM
Legend of Dragoon and Wild ARMs 2 hitting PSN this month

Nut
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on February 16, 2023, 08:41:09 AM
PSVR 2 reviews all say it's a massive, true next gen leap over PSVR1.  Dammit I want one.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Tuckers Law on February 16, 2023, 10:43:18 AM
 :stahp
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 16, 2023, 10:48:51 AM
PSVR 2 reviews all say it's a massive, true next gen leap over PSVR1.  Dammit I want one.

Just wait a month until all the early adopters get bored and start dumping them.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on February 16, 2023, 12:39:34 PM
FF7R battle system is so godlike. I'm so excited to play the sequel

What makes it good? Looks like your just spamming dodges and attacks.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on February 16, 2023, 12:58:10 PM
It's just fun. The video is specific strategy since it is the hardest boss in the entire game and not indicative of the overall combat
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on February 16, 2023, 02:43:00 PM
FF7R battle system is so godlike. I'm so excited to play the sequel

What makes it good? Looks like your just spamming dodges and attacks.
Have you not tried it yet?  PSN had a demo.  It's a blast to play.   You can technically play it old school way, but it's much more gratifying and tense going all in.  Shit's good.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on February 17, 2023, 09:16:34 AM
Legend of Dragoon and Wild ARMs 2 hitting PSN this month

Nut
None of these are Alundra.   :hmph
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on February 19, 2023, 12:01:59 PM
Forspoken is so fuckin mid, lol

Yet another generic open world game with checkboxes to cross off

Cool yet another "tower"

Cool yet another "village"

Cool yet another "cave"

I actually don't mind Frey, she's probably the most refreshing part of the game
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on February 19, 2023, 12:49:24 PM
Forspoken is so fuckin mid, lol

Yet another generic open world game with checkboxes to cross off

Cool yet another "tower"

Cool yet another "village"

Cool yet another "cave"

I actually don't mind Frey, she's probably the most refreshing part of the game

Yeah, it's disappointing since despite its shortcomings FF15 was a good "first sandbox rpg" for the team at SE. But seems like instead of doing an AC1 -> AC2 kind of improving it, they just stayed mid.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 19, 2023, 01:01:58 PM
Not played it, but I thought Japanese devs were over chasing Western trends (which never works) and either doing their own thing or at least putting their own spin on the western formula. Forspoken just seems like an ubi clone.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on February 19, 2023, 01:12:21 PM
It's always seemed to me a game where the creatives on the FF15 team left to work on more FF stuff and the rest of the team moved to Forspoken. So it's an FF sandbox without the creative talent which is why it comes across so bland.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on February 19, 2023, 02:16:28 PM
Good to know that FF16 is not open world, though sadly that doesn't mean that it won't have generic checklist gamedesign.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on February 19, 2023, 03:03:02 PM
Good to know that FF16 is not open world, though sadly that doesn't mean that it won't have generic checklist gamedesign.

I think the structure is based on FF14/FF12 zones with DMC x arpg combat or something.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 19, 2023, 03:47:49 PM
Thats what it looks like, which is for the best imo. Standard open worlds don't really work for a JRPG imo, I prefer them to be a globe trotting romp (Persona aside).
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: tiesto on February 21, 2023, 11:13:19 AM
Legend of Dragoon and Wild ARMs 2 hitting PSN this month

Nut

Fuck the haters, Dragoon ruled. Hope it does well and we can get a sequel.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on February 21, 2023, 11:41:54 AM
Thats what it looks like, which is for the best imo. Standard open worlds don't really work for a JRPG imo, I prefer them to be a globe trotting romp (Persona aside).
Dragon's Dogma begs to differ.  The greatest of all examples that a Western influenced JRPG can be spectacular... in the right hands of course. 

Itsuno will deliver once again on a level we're not ready for.  :rejoice :lawd :salute
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on February 21, 2023, 02:16:56 PM
https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1628077150380363777
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on February 22, 2023, 09:32:31 AM
Quote
Capcom will release the PlayStation VR2-supported virtual reality mode for the PlayStation 5 version of the Resident Evil 4 remake as free downloadable content, the company announced.

“The VR mode for Resident Evil 4 has begun development! Please look forward to more details in the future!” reads a tweet from the official Resident Evil Twitter account.

“The VR mode for Resident Evil 4 will be released as free downloadable content for PlayStation 5 / PlayStation VR2,” reads a follow-up tweet.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on February 22, 2023, 05:01:20 PM
Quote
Capcom will release the PlayStation VR2-supported virtual reality mode for the PlayStation 5 version of the Resident Evil 4 remake as free downloadable content, the company announced.

“The VR mode for Resident Evil 4 has begun development! Please look forward to more details in the future!” reads a tweet from the official Resident Evil Twitter account.

“The VR mode for Resident Evil 4 will be released as free downloadable content for PlayStation 5 / PlayStation VR2,” reads a follow-up tweet.
:dsp
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on February 23, 2023, 04:17:15 PM
Oh god, this furry/scaly tumblr pedo game is still alive and worse than ever :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on February 23, 2023, 05:33:04 PM
Jesus the Suicide Squad game...

"Gear Score" "Gear Sets" "Cosmetic Battle Pass"

 :wut

Confirmed to be the canonical folllow-up to the Arkham games, btw.  :killme

EDIT: Game is confirmed to be always online, even when playing solo.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on February 23, 2023, 06:51:30 PM
EDIT: Game is confirmed to be always online, even when playing solo.

 :nope
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on February 23, 2023, 06:58:46 PM
Jesus the Suicide Squad game...

"Gear Score" "Gear Sets" "Cosmetic Battle Pass"

 :wut

 :beli
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on February 23, 2023, 07:13:13 PM
PS+ seems like it's starting to actually give a shit and compete with Game Pass.

We just got The Quarry, Forgotten City (GP had that way back), Scarlet Nexus (same), all the Tokyo RPG Factory games (suck), and the PS1 stuff with Wild Arms 2, Legend of Dragoon, Harvest Moon.

Next month getting Ghostwire Tokyo, that Tchia game day 1, Immortals Fenyx Rising (think that was on GP).

Not saying it's up there with GP yet, but definitely a decent start vs what the service was until now. Actually will play some of this stuff and get my money's worth since a few of those have been sitting in my steam wishlist.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on February 23, 2023, 07:14:50 PM
I believe Scarlet Nexus has already left GamePass or is gone soon.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on February 24, 2023, 01:23:43 PM
Got the platinum on Forspoken, and just confirming this game is utter shit and should be avoided. Thanks for coming to my ted talk
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Kurt Russell on February 25, 2023, 03:55:26 AM
I'm too old to play PSVR2   :stahp

Thirty minutes sorting inventory and building a base in nms was enough to give me a splitting frontal headache and make me feel like I was about to barf.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on February 25, 2023, 04:04:19 AM
That's a normal reaction to more than 10 minutes of No Man's Sky.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on February 25, 2023, 05:10:11 AM
Got the platinum on Forspoken, and just confirming this game is utter shit and should be avoided. Thanks for coming to my ted talk

Why play it then jesus demi

Could have been playjng the awesome hogwarts
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on March 26, 2023, 04:03:28 AM
Yooooooo  :whoo :whew This shit looks damn beautiful.
https://youtu.be/XO4uAValDEM
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 26, 2023, 08:57:10 PM
OK japan finally reached the point where you can just walk into a fucking store and BUY a PS5 in cash instead of jumping through hoops signing up for credit cards or winning lotteries, so I got one. Only took them over two years, good job idiots

For Sony's diligence in finally supplying their home market (lol) I rewarded them by running out and buying a bunch of cheap secondhand PS5 games. Already finished Ratchet and Clank, rippin through Judgment now (it was the equivalent of $9 lol)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on March 29, 2023, 06:23:02 PM
Both my launch Dualsenses are fucked in opposite ways at this point. One has a broken R2 spring with a slightly drifting right stick, while the other has a broken L2 spring with a slightly drifting left stick :existential

I’ve never had a faulty PS controller since the PS1 days. This is fucking insane.

The drift can be cured for a bit with the same WD-40 or whatever shit I use on my Joycons, but based on videos I need to perform fucking open heart surgery to replace the trigger springs, and I know for a fact that I’d fuck it up and brick the controllers :lol

I hate everything :goty
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 29, 2023, 08:24:57 PM
Yooooooo  :whoo :whew This shit looks damn beautiful.
https://youtu.be/XO4uAValDEM
I don’t get this game. This looks so boring.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Potato on April 09, 2023, 11:44:42 PM
Both my launch Dualsenses are fucked in opposite ways at this point. One has a broken R2 spring with a slightly drifting right stick, while the other has a broken L2 spring with a slightly drifting left stick :existential

I’ve never had a faulty PS controller since the PS1 days. This is fucking insane.

The drift can be cured for a bit with the same WD-40 or whatever shit I use on my Joycons, but based on videos I need to perform fucking open heart surgery to replace the trigger springs, and I know for a fact that I’d fuck it up and brick the controllers :lol

I hate everything :goty
I've had multiple official controllers die for PS3 and PS4. They're just made poorly. I have never had a problem like this with any other console outside of drift issues with my switch controllers (which Nintendo fixed for free anyway). Sony's customer service response was consistently awful too.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on April 10, 2023, 09:03:02 AM
Throughout all my gaming, besides the worst controllers on the planet; N64 controllers, I've only had one drift issue with a new DS4.  Sony sent me a prepaid box for shipping and had it back to me in less than 10 days free of charge and works great.   :idont
Not sure what people do with their controllers.  I have a feeling more people drop them than they'd like to admit.. or stick them where they're not designed to be. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on April 10, 2023, 11:20:39 AM
You’re telling me I’m not supposed to stick a dual sense deep in my rectum to feel that sweet sweet haptic feedback?  :gurl
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 10, 2023, 12:13:50 PM
It's where the DualSense Edge belongs.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on April 10, 2023, 12:54:08 PM
Adaptive triggers.. feel the tension when clenching!   :lawd
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on April 10, 2023, 02:31:12 PM
Throughout all my gaming, besides the worst controllers on the planet; N64 controllers, I've only had one drift issue with a new DS4.  Sony sent me a prepaid box for shipping and had it back to me in less than 10 days free of charge and works great.   :idont
Not sure what people do with their controllers.  I have a feeling more people drop them than they'd like to admit.. or stick them where they're not designed to be.

Pretty sure potato uses his controllers as a spoon to eat vegemite right out the pot.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Potato on April 10, 2023, 04:48:55 PM
I've had at least one console from every generation since the Atari 2600 and the only brand that's given me dead controller problems is PlayStation.

I am pretty careful with them and my kids weren't old enough to play the PS3 so rule them out of the equation there.

Hell, all of my portables (from my original Gameboy onwards) still work except for the PSP which died because the shitty battery pack swelled and almost exploded.

The common denominator here is Sony. Even my old Mega Drive shit still works.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on April 11, 2023, 08:44:06 AM
I've had at least one console from every generation since the Atari 2600 and the only brand that's given me dead controller problems is PlayStation.

I am pretty careful with them and my kids weren't old enough to play the PS3 so rule them out of the equation there.

Hell, all of my portables (from my original Gameboy onwards) still work except for the PSP which died because the shitty battery pack swelled and almost exploded.

The common denominator here is Sony. Even my old Mega Drive shit still works.
That's understandable.  Sounds like my experience with xbox360.  RROD, sent it to get repaired via MS only to crap out again two weeks later, MS is a trash company to me ever since. 
Other than that, I know others that had issues with their PS1's and having to play them upside down.  :lol It was baffling.  And there's the infamous joycon drift BS.  I guess I've been lucky with mine.  3 years and no issue, besides them being designed by a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on April 11, 2023, 05:35:57 PM
https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1645894612693688320

Even though they've already shown more than hour's worth of footage already, but ok.  :doge

Would much rather see some more Stellar Blade and/or Lords of the Fallen.  :birdman

Better shadow drop us a demo at least  :steiner
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on April 11, 2023, 11:10:52 PM
FFXVI is Yawn inducing.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on April 11, 2023, 11:14:33 PM
(https://oyster.ignimgs.com/mediawiki/apis.ign.com/resident-evil/3/30/Vlcsnap-2015-01-20-08h23m39s206.png)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on April 12, 2023, 11:21:30 PM
I still think RE1 should be the next remake btw.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on April 13, 2023, 08:14:18 AM
I still think RE1 should be the next remake btw.

Do we really need a remake of a remake?

spoiler (click to show/hide)
They'll totally do it one day!
[close]
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on April 13, 2023, 08:17:06 AM
I still think RE1 should be the next remake btw.
As much of a classic it is, need to see love elsewhere, like Dino Crisis or Onimusha or Power Stone, or even Dragon's Dogma 1 :D 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on April 13, 2023, 09:58:26 AM
https://twitter.com/Guerrilla/status/1646498473565462530

Sunhilegend makes any game look incredible to play.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 13, 2023, 12:54:47 PM
Come on fam with that captured on PS5 shit, I played a reasonable amount of the base game and it looked no where near that good graphically :doge


(not even saying it ddint look hot either)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on April 13, 2023, 12:59:14 PM
Come on fam with that captured on PS5 shit, I played a reasonable amount of the base game and it looked no where near that good graphically :doge


(not even saying it ddint look hot either)
The dlc is PS5 only.  They claim they're taking full advantage of it this time, so who knows.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 13, 2023, 01:05:13 PM
Maybe idk :trumps

My minds eye could have even given it a downgrade, I'll have a look later if I've still got it installed :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on April 13, 2023, 06:18:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfP_3UD5qF8

This looks pretty spectacular so far.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on April 13, 2023, 06:31:42 PM
This and Zelda literally a month from each other... we eatin' this year.  8)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: remy on April 13, 2023, 07:28:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfP_3UD5qF8

This looks pretty spectacular so far.
absolute action game pornography
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on April 13, 2023, 08:30:17 PM
FF16 looks like generic trash.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Potato on April 13, 2023, 09:42:58 PM
That's what passes as final fantasy these days?

No turn based battles?

No parties?

Da fuq?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: remy on April 13, 2023, 10:38:08 PM
FF16 looks like generic trash.
What kind of fucken moron has a dmc avatar and watches that trailer, then produces this opinion.

seek help
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Rahxephon91 on April 13, 2023, 10:54:32 PM
Someone who already has the DMC flavor and is satisfied and wanted FF flavor that is good for once.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on April 14, 2023, 02:55:18 AM
didnt watch the video, preordered anyway. cant say no to a new final fantasy
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on April 14, 2023, 07:34:27 AM
That's what passes as final fantasy these days?

No turn based battles?

No parties?

Da fuq?

Yeah, fuck this. I don't like Action Fantasy either.

Gotta admit FF hasn't been interesting to me since the OG FF7 so..
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on April 14, 2023, 08:51:48 AM
 :ufup This looks hella better and more interesting than FFXV by a country mile.  No question.   

I thought the Summon battles would just be flashy QTE's, but they're much more than that.  Oddly enough, getting Nier:A vibes from those battles; them drip feeding us various gameplay elements like shooters and fighters into the mix.  Looks pretty damn fun... Like actually playing the absurdity of Advent Children fights.

And for the babies that want menu driven combat, they offered a casual/easy mode where the moves get carried out for you while you just input commands.  FFVIIR did the same thing, but no one in their right mind played it like that, because why would you?  :ryker

Calling it now though... the dog is totally gonna die.  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on April 14, 2023, 09:07:08 AM
:ufup This looks hella better and more interesting than FFXV by a country mile.  No question.   

I thought the Summon battles would just be flashy QTE's, but they're much more than that.  Oddly enough, getting Nier:A vibes from those battles; them drip feeding us various gameplay elements like shooters and fighters into the mix.  Looks pretty damn fun... Like actually playing the absurdity of Advent Children fights.

And for the babies that want menu driven combat, they offered a casual/easy mode where the moves get carried out for you while you just input commands.  FFVIIR did the same thing, but no one in their right mind played it like that, because why would you?  :ryker

Calling it now though... the dog is totally gonna die.  :doge

Im not asking for a baby mode, id rather play a harder rpg where decisions have consequences.

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 14, 2023, 09:15:47 AM
I'll get it day one but it doesn't get my juices flowing like a FF usually does :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on April 14, 2023, 09:30:41 AM
:ufup This looks hella better and more interesting than FFXV by a country mile.  No question.   

I thought the Summon battles would just be flashy QTE's, but they're much more than that.  Oddly enough, getting Nier:A vibes from those battles; them drip feeding us various gameplay elements like shooters and fighters into the mix.  Looks pretty damn fun... Like actually playing the absurdity of Advent Children fights.

And for the babies that want menu driven combat, they offered a casual/easy mode where the moves get carried out for you while you just input commands.  FFVIIR did the same thing, but no one in their right mind played it like that, because why would you?  :ryker

Calling it now though... the dog is totally gonna die.  :doge

Im not asking for a baby mode, id rather play a harder rpg where decisions have consequences.
But doesn't SE already have plenty of those?  Octopath Traveler 2 just came out and plays like that, no?

I guess I'm ok with FF going this direction... Coming from a hardcore Sega background, I'm now numb to a beloved RPG go the action route..  :trumps
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on April 14, 2023, 10:25:31 AM
:ufup This looks hella better and more interesting than FFXV by a country mile.  No question.   

I thought the Summon battles would just be flashy QTE's, but they're much more than that.  Oddly enough, getting Nier:A vibes from those battles; them drip feeding us various gameplay elements like shooters and fighters into the mix.  Looks pretty damn fun... Like actually playing the absurdity of Advent Children fights.

And for the babies that want menu driven combat, they offered a casual/easy mode where the moves get carried out for you while you just input commands.  FFVIIR did the same thing, but no one in their right mind played it like that, because why would you?  :ryker

Calling it now though... the dog is totally gonna die.  :doge

Im not asking for a baby mode, id rather play a harder rpg where decisions have consequences.
But doesn't SE already have plenty of those?  Octopath Traveler 2 just came out and plays like that, no?

I guess I'm ok with FF going this direction... Coming from a hardcore Sega background, I'm now numb to a beloved RPG go the action route..  :trumps

Listen I want a grand adventure, I dont want no 16 bit looking sheit.

Thats why DQ11 was so good. Great turn based combat with an interesting open world and story.

Persona 5 also proved that turn based RPG's can not only sell well but play incredibly well also.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on April 14, 2023, 01:08:48 PM
:piss DQXI :piss2
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on April 14, 2023, 02:01:51 PM
:piss DQXI :piss2

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gcHxZ2WDLtI/maxresdefault.jpg)

Platypunk doesnt like that
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on April 14, 2023, 02:56:02 PM
*randomly clicks through video*

(https://imgur.com/bQtgzzE.jpg)

 :whatisthis
CHAOS!?!?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on April 14, 2023, 03:53:39 PM
*randomly clicks through video*

(https://imgur.com/bQtgzzE.jpg)

 :whatisthis
CHAOS!?!?

All gruff yts look the same to you?

Say what you really mean, shitlord :ufup
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 14, 2023, 05:06:49 PM
I'll get it day one but it doesn't get my juices flowing like a FF usually does :doge

Watched the second half of the vid and want it now :hyper
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on April 14, 2023, 05:36:01 PM
Square Enix pretty much covers all bases now but with different types of games.

- Old school Final Fantasy and spin-offs (Team Asano: Bravely Default, Triangle Strategy and other HD-2D games like Octopath)
- New classic turn-based JRPG's (Dragon Quest)
- MMORPGs (FFXIV)
- Modern action RPG's (new Final Fantasy's)
- Old school action RPG's (Kingdom Hearts)

As time progresses I'm pretty sure we'll get Team Asano 'Final Fantasy X' in the near future too.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on April 14, 2023, 09:38:30 PM
If only Konami and Sega would get their shit together, the Old School Japanese Gaming Grandmaster Clique would be representin' again.   :cruise
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on April 16, 2023, 04:41:49 PM
I had no idea the Horizon expansion was out in 3 days.

Don't got time for this with Zelda coming.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on April 16, 2023, 06:30:32 PM
It's quite amazing how they always manage to launch Horizon games to die against the biggest open world games  :doge

Horizon Zero Dawn -> Breath of the Wild
Horizon Frozen Wilds -> Assassins Creed Origins
Horizon Forbidden West -> Elden Ring
Horizon Call of the Mountain -> Hogwarts Legacy
Horizon Burning Shores -> Tears of the Kingdom
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on April 16, 2023, 06:32:18 PM
I had no idea the Horizon expansion was out in 3 days.

Don't got time for this with Zelda coming.
Yeah, even though I'm actually wanting to play FFXVI, Zelda takes priority over all, and God only knows how long it'll take me to playthrough it.  I've only done like 40% of Horizon 2 also.  Just digging myself deeper and deeper into backlogs.  :stahp
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on May 03, 2023, 11:37:33 AM
Spiderman PS5 stand alone version, and/or $10 upgrade finally coming this month.  Cripes almighty, Sony.. took you long enough. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 03, 2023, 12:08:29 PM
That whole thing was extremely strange, they were actively leaving money on the table for years.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on May 05, 2023, 10:14:32 AM
Spiderman PS5 stand alone version, and/or $10 upgrade finally coming this month.  Cripes almighty, Sony.. took you long enough.

Get this on your PC.  It will run better.  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on May 05, 2023, 10:20:14 AM
Spiderman PS5 stand alone version, and/or $10 upgrade finally coming this month.  Cripes almighty, Sony.. took you long enough.

Get this on your PC.  It will run better.  :doge
I'm not even sure why I kinda want a spidey game.   :lol :doge My comic book character likes have plummeted to zilch of late.  I'd like to blame Didney.  :hmph
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on May 10, 2023, 07:13:19 PM
PS+ getting Sakuna this month (along with Ratchet Rift Apart and some other stuff). Almost bought that after playing Eiyuden Rising since it's a similar genre of game. Will definitely give it a play on PS+
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on May 11, 2023, 09:07:01 AM
There's a bunch of heavy rumors going around that Sony struck a 3 game deal with Konami and is set to reveal them with the supposed Showcase coming the end of this month/beginning of June.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on May 11, 2023, 06:31:00 PM
Yeah this PlayStation Showcase thing is supposed to be the biggest yet or some such.
It makes sense for Sony to make a deal with Konami but this is still Konami we're talking about. It could be some Castlevania GaaS Gacha game or a next gen port of Metal Gear Survive  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on May 11, 2023, 06:34:25 PM
The thing about these rumours I don't get... did they somehow miss that Silent Hill is already real and it got a very clear plan for the IP for the upcoming years?  :doge Or am I missing something?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on May 11, 2023, 06:47:45 PM
The thing about these rumours I don't get... did they somehow miss that Silent Hill is already real and it got a very clear plan for the IP for the upcoming years?  :doge Or am I missing something?
They're saying SH2R being 1 of the 3 games.   :yeshrug
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on May 12, 2023, 12:15:20 PM
I feel bad for Sony Ponies that are getting excited over exclusives that are coming from a publisher that’s only released pachinko games and ports for the last five years.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on May 12, 2023, 01:21:30 PM
Yeah, I’m not sure why anyone expects good games from Konami given that all their game talent left and they’re outsourcing to companies like Blooper because they’re dirt cheap. Doesn’t give an inspiring picture of focus on quality.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 12, 2023, 06:03:25 PM
Their recent pro Evo reboot e football is fucking abysmal, or at least was last time I tried it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on May 17, 2023, 10:12:05 AM
https://twitter.com/geoffkeighley/status/1658835063163715584 (https://twitter.com/geoffkeighley/status/1658835063163715584)

Quote
The show will run a bit over an hour, focusing on PS5 and PS VR2 games in development from top studios from around the world. Expect a glimpse at several new creations from PlayStation Studios, as well as spellbinding games from our third-party partners and indie creators.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on May 17, 2023, 10:27:24 AM
Over an hour? Aw snap :gladbron
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on May 21, 2023, 08:02:24 AM
I feel bad for Sony Ponies that are getting excited over exclusives that are coming from a publisher that’s only released pachinko games and ports for the last five years.

That's also the thing. We already know Silent Hill was handed to the worst developer possible. And Metal Gear allegedly handed to some random Chinese dev? What could go wrong  :doge Other rumour is Symphony of the Night remake, but what is there to remake about that game? Makes no sense.

In reality, we need Bloodstained 2 unveiled already.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Polident Hive on May 21, 2023, 11:15:54 AM
The persistent rumor of a Horizon 1 remake is characteristic of Sony 202X and maybe that's why such a dumb idea can sound credible.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 21, 2023, 11:18:45 AM
lol why, the ps4 (pro?) version on ps5 already looks really really good anyway, watch them charge full price too

God of War remake coming 2024 :rash
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: paprikastaude on May 22, 2023, 11:53:48 AM
Can't even blame them. Gamers act all snarky when these redundant remakes come out. Yet at the same time, these idiots made the current narrative that Bloodborne is supposedly unplayable because it has 30 fps and no raytrac0rs so PLEASE REMAKE SONYY
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on May 22, 2023, 01:49:34 PM
The previews that dropped this morning for FFXVI, several of them are hinting at a demo that should drop this week.  Probably during the showcase this Wednesday.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 22, 2023, 02:18:31 PM
 :whew
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on May 22, 2023, 03:08:22 PM
The game comes out in like 3 weeks, might as well wait it out
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on May 24, 2023, 02:56:42 PM
y'all ready for this PlayStation Showcase?

I believe it has been overhyped tho  :doge

Judging by this intro music it's going to be some more prentious shit from Hermen Hulst.  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on May 24, 2023, 04:08:21 PM
So far, so bad.  :yuck
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on May 24, 2023, 04:09:27 PM
Only EA can make a DOOM clone this soy lmao


Ghostrunner 2  :whoo
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on May 24, 2023, 04:13:40 PM
Oh shit, what is this?? :o


Phantom Blade 0... Ok, that looked dope af
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on May 24, 2023, 04:18:16 PM
Phantom blade looks sick

I thought they were showing a new Myst, and it was Talos Principle 2, I wasnt far off :p
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on May 24, 2023, 04:20:38 PM
Phantom Blade is probably one of those Chinese/Korean games that are nothing more than a cool trailer and end up being vapor ware.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on May 24, 2023, 04:21:40 PM
No, totally not Splatoon.  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on May 24, 2023, 04:21:59 PM
Splatoon  :nope

Weebcoom :ohyeah
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on May 24, 2023, 04:22:32 PM
Phantom Blade is probably one of those Chinese/Korean games that are nothing more than a cool trailer and end up being vapor ware.
:stahp
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 24, 2023, 04:23:22 PM
Pretty poor showing so far imo, are they getting the shit out of the way before the hot stuff?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on May 24, 2023, 04:25:06 PM
Literally a more gritty Minecraft :dead
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 24, 2023, 04:28:02 PM
What the fuck was that snake eater trailer :confused
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on May 24, 2023, 04:28:41 PM
There it is... Kept us waiting, huh.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on May 24, 2023, 04:28:48 PM
Lmao i feel like ive been bamboozled
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 24, 2023, 04:29:22 PM
They (whoever they are) surely knocked that together in 20 mins using some unreal 5 assets right?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on May 24, 2023, 04:32:28 PM
Absolutely zero fucking artistry.

I remember when an MGS trailer used to be an event :stahp
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on May 24, 2023, 04:34:42 PM
Pretty poor showing so far imo, are they getting the shit out of the way before the hot stuff?
thank you :rejoice
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on May 24, 2023, 04:34:49 PM
I mean, it's not a Kojima trailer, so that probably explains a lot.  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on May 24, 2023, 04:37:58 PM
I was out having surgery and bleeding from multiple directions rn,

Did they actually announce any new interesting games? And by new I do not count remakes/ports.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on May 24, 2023, 04:38:19 PM
Holy shit Skies of Arcadia II?? OMGGGGGG
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on May 24, 2023, 04:38:58 PM
Goddamnit jipped again
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Beezy on May 24, 2023, 04:44:34 PM
Congrats, Dragon's Dogma fans.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on May 24, 2023, 04:45:41 PM
Not even a release year :rage

Looks sick though.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on May 24, 2023, 04:46:16 PM
Oh .... Shit....
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on May 24, 2023, 04:46:43 PM
I'm done.  Nothing else matters.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on May 24, 2023, 04:47:00 PM
I was out having surgery and bleeding from multiple directions rn,

Did they actually announce any new interesting games? And by new I do not count remakes/ports.
Aside from Indie stuff like sequels to "Journey" and "Gris" the highlights so far are great new trailers for Alan Wake II and Assassins Creed as well as a teaser for Metal Gear Solid 3 Remake and Dragons Dogma II gameplay.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 24, 2023, 04:47:42 PM
Dragons Dogma looked cool, so did SF6. FF16 looked to be more of the same of what they've shown.

That phantom blade looked cool if your a souls fan, but probably fake too :trumps
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on May 24, 2023, 04:49:46 PM
REmake4 VR looks insane
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on May 24, 2023, 04:50:40 PM
Capcom and Nintendo carrying the entire gaming industry rn
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 24, 2023, 04:52:42 PM
I wonder if we'll get anything of ff7 remake 2, seems like a square thing to not want to put anything out during the 16 hype cycle.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on May 24, 2023, 04:55:53 PM
Marathon reboot
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on May 24, 2023, 04:56:16 PM
New Bungie game looks.... Colorful
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: BIONIC on May 24, 2023, 05:00:56 PM
I can’t believe they put an old movie trailer at the end :dead
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on May 24, 2023, 05:04:11 PM
Phil Spencer looking at all these games with release dates not in development hell or buggy as fuck as Starfield crashes on him for the 5th time today :fbm
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on May 24, 2023, 05:10:18 PM
Capcom: QTE's are outdated :snob

Sony: Press Triangle to SpIdEr-MaN :derp
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on May 24, 2023, 05:11:29 PM
Is the first GhostRunner good?  I have it as a PS+ freebie, but haven't tried it. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on May 24, 2023, 05:12:37 PM
That was entirely too much Spidey.  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on May 24, 2023, 05:13:43 PM
So no Korean games at all... Not even stellar blade :killme
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on May 24, 2023, 05:14:01 PM
Too much CGI, not enough cool games

weak showing 4/10
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 24, 2023, 05:14:35 PM
Surely Microsoft can beat that, right?  :wow

You know the same MS who have a Forza Motorsport game seemingly in developmental hell :girlaff
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Polident Hive on May 24, 2023, 05:19:55 PM
MGS4 eternally PS3 exclusive.

Cell processor :rejoice
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on May 24, 2023, 05:21:34 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fw7AmGGXoAE84ll?format=jpg)

Even the PS5 itself looks ashamed of this  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 24, 2023, 05:21:56 PM
I'd take a mgs4 port over doing anything else in the series tbh :rash

Shower me in that sweet sweet insanity :phil
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on May 24, 2023, 05:23:25 PM
Given that the dual elite whatever controller is 200 buckaroos I expect this will be 399.99.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on May 24, 2023, 05:26:54 PM
MGS4 eternally PS3 exclusive.

Cell processor :rejoice

The collection thing says "Vol.1" so...

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Vol.2 will be the weird ass PSP games :lol
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Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 24, 2023, 05:26:58 PM
That streaming thing will be overpriced trash just do an official controller add-on for phones and make a streaming app. Guessing Sony had aload of unused 7 inch tablet screens laying around they needed repurposing or some shit :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Potato on May 24, 2023, 05:32:23 PM
Lol. The return of the PSP was a bit of a let down huh?

Sony invented the WiiU. Lol.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 24, 2023, 05:33:37 PM
It seems like they e given up on it but over it was even announced :girlaff
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Potato on May 24, 2023, 05:35:11 PM
Also, those earbuds are the ugliest shit I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on May 24, 2023, 05:35:38 PM
Yeah it's just a product to milk the hardcore fanbase so they have something to compete with the Steamdeck and Switch.

Overall peeps seem dissapointed. I thought it was a decent showcase, good variety of titles and a great look at games coming soon like Alan Wake 2 and Mirage.
Surprised they didn't have something on Armored Core and Tekken 8.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Potato on May 24, 2023, 05:35:59 PM
Towers of Aghbasha looked cool.

WTF is Foamstars Square Enix? Jesus.

Can someone tell the Journey guy that he can make a different game now.

Phantom Blade looked good, but I am sceptical it will play well.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on May 24, 2023, 05:38:39 PM
Whether or not you like the style, Sony definitely know their hardware design.

Until this abomination which is basically "hey Joe just slice that shit in half and put a phablet in the middle" :lol

That's what happens when an English bloke is in charge :yeshrug
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on May 24, 2023, 05:44:35 PM
Alan Wake 2 looked cool I guess... Keeping the 360 hooked up to play old shit. This new gen has been pretty trash games wise. The GOTY is running on a tablet that's barely better than the 360.

Maybe start focussing on cool new mechanics devs? Nah, here's a horse cock with more polygons than the entire N64 library.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Potato on May 24, 2023, 05:45:26 PM
PS5 is one of the ugliest consoles ever made. Not sure where this idea of Sony knowing hardware design comes from. Compared to actual nice hardware design it looks like something designed by a 45 year old man with the aesthetic sense of a teenager.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on May 24, 2023, 06:14:38 PM
Capgods bailing out this console generation yet again!

PS5 is one of the ugliest consoles ever made. Not sure where this idea of Sony knowing hardware design comes from. Compared to actual nice hardware design it looks like something designed by a 45 year old man with the aesthetic sense of a teenager.

I love that the official way to lay it horizontally has it at an angle and it’ll fall off the stand if you tap it. Also love that they made it white to sell skins. 

The streaming device looks laughably bad. At least PSVR2 won’t be the worst selling Sony hardware this year.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on May 24, 2023, 06:54:29 PM
PS5 is one of the ugliest consoles ever made. Not sure where this idea of Sony knowing hardware design comes from. Compared to actual nice hardware design it looks like something designed by a 45 year old man with the aesthetic sense of a teenager.

I like the white & blue aesthetic, but yeah Playstation system design peaked at ps2 phat.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on May 24, 2023, 07:17:27 PM
Silver ps2 slim is dope too
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on May 24, 2023, 09:28:05 PM
Wait, Marathon is a f2p Tarkov clone  ???

 :neogaf
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on May 25, 2023, 12:00:37 AM
I'm still shocked they didn't drop anything on Stellar Blade.. you know, an actual PS5 exclusive.  :doge They even posted an official page for it 2 days ago. Seemed it was inevitable ???

Where Little Devil Inside too? Vapity vape, I guess.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Oh wait, Dragon's Dogma 2 is coming so who gives a shit. :betty
Reason they didn't show a release date because they didn't want to have GOTY locked in and let every other pissity game think they have a chance.  :show :cody :judgement
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Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on May 25, 2023, 01:07:50 AM
PS5 is one of the ugliest consoles ever made. Not sure where this idea of Sony knowing hardware design comes from. Compared to actual nice hardware design it looks like something designed by a 45 year old man with the aesthetic sense of a teenager.

As mentioned, I wasn't talking about aesthetics. But this shit looks like they thought about it for about 5 mins.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Polident Hive on May 25, 2023, 03:43:03 AM
Capgods bailing out this console generation yet again!

PS5 is one of the ugliest consoles ever made. Not sure where this idea of Sony knowing hardware design comes from. Compared to actual nice hardware design it looks like something designed by a 45 year old man with the aesthetic sense of a teenager.

I love that the official way to lay it horizontally has it at an angle and it’ll fall off the stand if you tap it. Also love that they made it white to sell skins. 

The streaming device looks laughably bad. At least PSVR2 won’t be the worst selling Sony hardware this year.

That decision actually makes me upset. Have an emotional response whenever I move the console. When I put in a secondary ssd, nearly went to grab a hot glue gun and fix it once and for all. Now there’s the option to wirelessly update the controller. Before when you had to plug in a cable, it’d fall off the stand. From the small pressure of inserting the usb c end. Why.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Polident Hive on May 25, 2023, 10:03:02 AM
Watched the Spider-Man 2 gameplay. While visually it looks about the same, and maybe I fundamentally don’t understand this shit, the speed you can move across the city now looks to benefit from the SSD? an actual function of new tech that can influence gameplay?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on May 25, 2023, 10:04:41 AM
Just cause u can move faster doesnt make it a better game tho
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on May 25, 2023, 10:38:48 AM
Wait, Marathon is a f2p Tarkov clone  ???

 :neogaf

by the same people who gave you Destiny 2 PVP omegalul
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 25, 2023, 11:20:07 AM
At least FF16 looks good. :rejoice
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on May 25, 2023, 11:22:43 AM
How is it a tarkov clone when its only the mode itself thats in common. Supposedly not even pve. So in fact nothing like Tarkov.

Or is every shooter a Doom clone still?

Also Tarkov is fucking ass these days.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on May 25, 2023, 01:13:28 PM

That decision actually makes me upset. Have an emotional response whenever I move the console. When I put in a secondary ssd, nearly went to grab a hot glue gun and fix it once and for all. Now there’s the option to wirelessly update the controller. Before when you had to plug in a cable, it’d fall off the stand. From the small pressure of inserting the usb c end. Why.

I ended up buying this to get the ps5 to be flat and it works.
https://www.amazon.com/NexiGo-Accessories-Horizontal-Minimalist-Playstation/dp/B096XFF5SX/

How is it a tarkov clone when its only the mode itself thats in common. Supposedly not even pve. So in fact nothing like Tarkov.

Or is every shooter a Doom clone still?

Also Tarkov is fucking ass these days.

I’m mean that’s how it’s being described. I’m just more annoyed that we’re finally getting a new marathon game and this is it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on May 25, 2023, 02:21:02 PM
Tarkov is a pretty realistic, very slow moving game where you heavily engage PVE as well as PVP (but can avoid PVP as well)

This might be an extraction shooter, but I think it will be very fast paced and entertaining. No PVE means more emphasis on PVP obviously.

I havent played the OG Marathon but Im sure they were never gonna do it justice anyway, so this might be better than nothing.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 13, 2023, 05:46:09 AM
Finally using this machine the way it was meant to be used.

Bought an exercise bicycle and use the PS5 to watch the original Gundam while doing my workout.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on June 22, 2023, 09:05:26 AM
Got FFXVI preloaded and ready. Whooboy this is gonna be a trip.  Folks talking like it drops the fee fees like playing FFVI and VII for the first time back in the day.  :lawd
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on August 01, 2023, 10:33:38 AM
New firmware update coming... Will allow you to turn off the beep sound when powering up the system....
God is real.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 02, 2023, 07:54:02 AM
I turned on my PS5 for the first time in a few weeks and I’m not able to access PS Plus, the shit I paid for. It just does not load up. I don’t have much time for gaming so I had a pocket of time last night. After a few minutes, I restarted the PS5 and got the same issues. Put it in rest mode and did something else. Oh well.

I’m just not impressed with this console thus far.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: archnemesis on August 02, 2023, 09:07:04 AM
Could you access the store or anything else requiring an internet connection? If you haven't used PS+ in a while it will check that your subscription is valid before granting access.

I use ethernet cables with my consoles. They work poorly over wifi.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on August 11, 2023, 10:05:09 AM
Possible leak of the PS5 "slim"

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/504459164391571458/1139521675726168104/9e18e3f81a4c510fa657bf2b2659252dd52aa5c8.jpg)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 11, 2023, 12:07:14 PM
Isn't that just one of those 1000 in 1 game consoles that dude found on alibaba?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on August 11, 2023, 12:40:16 PM
Isn't that just one of those 1000 in 1 game consoles that dude found on alibaba?
It's probably legit because it still looks dumb.  :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on August 11, 2023, 04:53:27 PM
We have the PS5 at home

https://twitter.com/BwE_Dev/status/1690098165490548737 (https://twitter.com/BwE_Dev/status/1690098165490548737)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on August 12, 2023, 10:55:43 AM
That thing better be the Pro or something, and not the "slim".  Still too big and awkward.  Gonna save that manufacturing cost by reducing the plastic with that strip or something sony? :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on August 30, 2023, 11:56:08 AM
SoyPass subscriptions being hiked on Sept 6th.  Better re-up now, if still using it.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on August 30, 2023, 12:13:41 PM
Yeah, it's pretty ridiculous how much they're increasing it while not adding anything new to the value.

Have a feeling they're going to see a huge drop in subscribers once this is implemented. Enough to hurt their financials and make them do something.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on August 30, 2023, 12:50:30 PM
Yeah, it's ridiculous how much they're hiking it. I hope it does back fire on them.  I'm still good till 11/24, so I hope to see a rollback or actual heavy hitting Day Oners of sorts.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 13, 2023, 10:59:17 PM
Same day as a Direct..  :whew

https://x.com/PlayStation/status/1702049745554772126
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on September 16, 2023, 02:05:18 PM
Soybusters :nope
Seperate Ways :dice
Tales of Arise DLC :pika (wasn't expecting this)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6GebLLbMAAJoiC?format=jpg)

The soy of play :stahp
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on September 16, 2023, 08:16:46 PM
Soybusters :nope
Seperate Ways :dice
Tales of Arise DLC :pika (wasn't expecting this)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6GebLLbMAAJoiC?format=jpg)

The soy of play :stahp
If this is the spokes person thing for all future SOP's, I'm done.

For once, I was thoroughly excited what they showed on the Nintendo Irect vs this.  (Contra and Tomb Raider) but everything in this was just meh or already known and shown. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: demi on September 16, 2023, 08:47:53 PM
The Playstation chick has some nice tits
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 10, 2023, 01:22:54 PM
New slim models coming in November...

Quote
The new PS5 has been reduced in volume by more than 30%, and weight by 18% and 24% compared to the previous models.

The recommended retail prices for the new PS5 model are as follows beginning with the rollout in November at participating retailers.

U.S.
PS5 with Ultra HD Blu-ray disc drive – 499.99 USD
PS5 Digital Edition – 449.99 USD
Europe
PS5 with Ultra HD Blu-ray disc drive – 549.99 EUR
PS5 Digital Edition – 449.99 EUR
U.K.
PS5 with Ultra HD Blu-ray disc drive – 479.99 GBP
PS5 Digital Edition – 389.99 GBP
Japan
PS5 with Ultra HD Blu-ray disc drive – 66,980 JPY (includes tax)
PS5 Digital Edition – 59,980 JPY (includes tax)

(https://blog.playstation.com/tachyon/2023/10/cd56722db7b991b3d7a33f1bafd55f80d0ac553d.png)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53248858359_949d3ced6c_h.jpg)

https://blog.playstation.com/2023/10/10/new-look-for-ps5-console-this-holiday-season/?smcid=psapp
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 11, 2023, 04:36:48 PM
More PS out of nowhere randomness....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itN-6rJ45n0
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Himu on October 11, 2023, 05:00:48 PM
It's really assuring the PS5 slim doesn't look like a complete piece of shit like the OG. I'll get one.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 11, 2023, 05:26:31 PM
It's really assuring the PS5 slim doesn't look like a complete piece of shit like the OG. I'll get one.
Even though it's improved some, it's still pretty shitty of them to boost the price $50 compared ot the launch version.  The launch digi version was $400.   But yeah, a smaller one would be nice with the option for a disc drive.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on October 12, 2023, 08:38:40 PM
It's really assuring the PS5 slim doesn't look like a complete piece of shit like the OG. I'll get one.

its no ps2 slim
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Himu on October 12, 2023, 08:44:08 PM
Few things are
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 13, 2023, 09:15:18 AM
I must take this opportunity to post about the nostalgia of picking up a PS2 Slim with Katamari Damacy.  That thing was such a magical slit.  It was staggering to me they compressed the size down like that.  Besides the PSP, that was Sony's top designed videogame product ever.  :delicious 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on October 16, 2023, 09:08:51 AM
That thing was such a magical slit.

:beavis

I remember that- we were hyped to get it for basically no reason!  :lol  I got it and was immediately hit with the fact that I couldn't play Japanese games on it using the converters available at the time.  Ended up getting one chipped that's still sitting in my closet- they never did come anywhere near close to shrinking down hardware like that again.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on October 16, 2023, 12:50:07 PM
That thing was such a magical slit.

:beavis

I remember that- we were hyped to get it for basically no reason!  :lol  I got it and was immediately hit with the fact that I couldn't play Japanese games on it using the converters available at the time.  Ended up getting one chipped that's still sitting in my closet- they never did come anywhere near close to shrinking down hardware like that again.
Hmmmmyesss it's a PS2 and it's tiny.  :betty
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on October 24, 2023, 03:59:54 PM
Spider-man 2 is gud. Better than SM1 or Miles.

I don't think it is GOTY worthy in a year like 2023 but the traversal is a lot of fun. Finally have a game that outdoes Prototype in that department.

Arkham Asylum is still the GOAT but I think this is now the #2 best super hero game of all time.  8)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on October 24, 2023, 10:20:19 PM
I'm about 25% in and the praise it's getting I get it and don't get it  :doge

Traversal is amazing, the flying is really well integrated, loving moving around.
And everything in the game is fun enough when playing.

But everything is so shallow and repetitive, especially the combat which doesn't feel any better than the previous two games (and why do these games always have to have that one annoying enemy type - here the sniper enemies that hang on stuff everywhere), that I have fun when I play Spider-Man 2, but it's like that 8/10 kind of fun that after about an hour I'm good and turn it off and when I'm not playing I never feel the urge to boot it up.

It's a good game, but it's not fun enough that it's engaging me to keep playing and ignore life and responsibilities. Which means it's about an 8/10 so far.

Then again I'm still waiting for full on Venom to show up, so maybe the game will take off once Tony Todd starts busting out the Venom voice.

Also I find the sidequests kind of dull mostly. Like most are just listening to NPCs talk. Like the old man on the bench. And the molecule busting puzzle mini-game sucks, and the rest of the mini-games are fine but extremely shallow. Like the music mini-game was pretty pathetic.

Characters/story are good. Graphics good.

I just liked Ragnarok a lot more for 1st party Sony stuff because the combat was far more exciting and fun.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on October 25, 2023, 08:05:54 AM
Spider-man 2 is gud. Better than SM1 or Miles.

I don't think it is GOTY worthy in a year like 2023 but the traversal is a lot of fun. Finally have a game that outdoes Prototype in that department.

Arkham Asylum is still the GOAT but I think this is now the #2 best super hero game of all time.  8)

Antitrop said it doesnt have the humor of the first game
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on October 25, 2023, 04:02:23 PM
I'm about 25% in and the praise it's getting I get it and don't get it  :doge

But everything is so shallow and repetitive, especially the combat which doesn't feel any better than the previous two games
What was your last main mission?

I thought the start of the game was very slow. I would have given it like a 7/10 after 8 hours. The story and combat pick up A LOT after a certain point. The boss fights are pretty challenging on Spectacular.
Antitrop said it doesnt have the humor of the first game
The beginning is mostly lighthearted when it comes to Peter and he still has his corny one-liners but the overall tone is much darker and serious. It was a tonal change based on the plot.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on October 25, 2023, 05:42:43 PM
I miss this spiderman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJxpFCcnLdY
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: bork on October 25, 2023, 05:50:18 PM
The new PS5 model will reportedly require an Internet connection to use the disc drive.  Unsure if it's just for first time set up or if it's always needed.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on October 25, 2023, 07:37:04 PM
I'm about 25% in and the praise it's getting I get it and don't get it  :doge

But everything is so shallow and repetitive, especially the combat which doesn't feel any better than the previous two games
What was your last main mission?

I thought the start of the game was very slow. I would have given it like a 7/10 after 8 hours. The story and combat pick up A LOT after a certain point. The boss fights are pretty challenging on Spectacular.

Last main mission I did was coney island stuff.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on October 25, 2023, 08:22:31 PM
Last main mission I did was coney island stuff.
Oh yeah, things will start to escalate. The 2nd and 3rd acts are a lot better imo.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on October 25, 2023, 09:27:07 PM
Cool, yeah as much as the walk and talk stuff is enjoyable, I wouldn't mind the game to get going a bit more to keep me interested.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on October 26, 2023, 02:46:45 AM
https://youtu.be/NEenDCps85s?si=-efmlJCygrbuLGif

 :neo
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 26, 2023, 06:01:23 AM
Why are they keeping the 2006 router asthetic though  :goldberg
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on October 26, 2023, 08:08:01 AM
So fugly
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on October 26, 2023, 02:07:26 PM
The new PS5 model will reportedly require an Internet connection to use the disc drive.  Unsure if it's just for first time set up or if it's always needed.

It's a one time thing to pair it to the console. I assume it will already be done on the disc SKU. Note that one time online authentication is needed for BD movies playback as well, that's been the case since the PS4 (3?).
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Bebpo on October 26, 2023, 02:39:28 PM
I mean y'all think it's going to suddenly look like a PS2? It's just a smaller form PS5 zzz

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Nintex on October 26, 2023, 04:40:18 PM
I'm quite impressed by how Slim they've managed to make it compared to the OG chunky boi.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Polident Hive on October 27, 2023, 08:03:11 AM
It doesn’t feel like it, but it’s been three years.

It’s crazier to me that rumors of a Pro are floating around. Three years was about the gap between the 4 and the 4 Pro. That’s just how it’s gonna be, it seems.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on October 27, 2023, 09:56:21 AM
I mean y'all think it's going to suddenly look like a PS2? It's just a smaller form PS5 zzz

a redesign would have been nice

(https://www.digitaltrends.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/playstation-4-slim-305x210.png?fit=200%2C138&p=1)
vs
(https://www.digitaltrends.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/playstation-4.png?fit=200%2C138&p=1)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on October 28, 2023, 02:12:02 PM
Got the Spider-Man 2 platinum. Pretty easy and no horrific Screwball-type time trial mission bullshit.

The main story was just really well done. Growing up on that 1994 spider-man cartoon, it just hit all the right notes for me.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on October 29, 2023, 08:59:12 AM
I installed the OLD Peter Parker mod for PC Spiderman Remastered (on NG+) last night and damn it looks so good. How can it look better than the final face they chose? Like wtf :D

(https://staticdelivery.nexusmods.com/mods/4536/images/2122/2122-1694958566-274887875.png)
(https://staticdelivery.nexusmods.com/mods/4536/images/2122/2122-1666643751-160199386.png)
(https://www.denofgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Spider-Man-Remaster.png?resize=768%2C432)

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on October 29, 2023, 12:59:36 PM
it's kind of weird that Harry in SM2 looks a bit like Old Peter.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 18, 2023, 01:40:36 PM
So apparently the Angry Dad Pad has sold out in the US and UK. Lol Who'd of thunk there were that many entitled man babies out there. 
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 18, 2023, 07:08:50 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't ship many more than 10k units worldwide tho.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 18, 2023, 08:36:21 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't ship many more than 10k units worldwide tho.
Probably. They're saying it's due to scalpers. :doge
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on November 19, 2023, 05:00:06 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't ship many more than 10k units worldwide tho.
Probably. They're saying it's due to scalpers. :doge

Easy way to spark interest
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on November 22, 2023, 02:08:39 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't ship many more than 10k units worldwide tho.

Apparently sold 5.7k in Spain on launch week. Almost as much as Switch. And almost 3x XboxS/X  :lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 24, 2023, 04:32:12 PM
What the fuck is an angry dad pad?
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on November 24, 2023, 05:40:32 PM
What the fuck is an angry dad pad?
The PS Portal.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 25, 2023, 10:06:45 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't ship many more than 10k units worldwide tho.

Apparently sold 5.7k in Spain on launch week. Almost as much as Switch. And almost 3x XboxS/X  :lol

Sony ponies :snoop
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Himu on December 12, 2023, 06:56:41 PM
Getting a ps5 slim. Seems time to jump in.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on December 13, 2023, 01:45:04 PM
Getting a ps5 slim. Seems time to jump in.
Get Returnal, if you want to experience the best 3D shooter to date.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on January 17, 2024, 12:57:49 PM
2024.  YEAR of the DRAGON's Dogma 2...  and STELLAR "FEATURES"....
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://c.tenor.com/OeshTWrKpI8AAAAd/project-eve-hyung-tae-kim.gif)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/6f1ac6e708804212e4cd226eac2f12ba/8efb1f791722a29b-fa/s540x810/939f890599bfcfa23a350a6473598f5fe56f8343.gif)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/17e0ad18f847ba0897683383720e308c/8efb1f791722a29b-6b/s540x810/b1f5d0505bab8c95ed71b50871f2c4c248c8a823.gif)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/f6ab0e68eb434c2c83e3ed4bb26a4d80/8efb1f791722a29b-c3/s540x810/f3e11ddcbd2d85b7bc10db73ff88282cefe00629.gif)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/33a971ac30a74dcfc9a54b0db3ef35e8/8efb1f791722a29b-5d/s540x810/856e99d6970bd6eb26b48c53da582ea37e0927b8.gif)
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:lawd :rejoice
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on January 29, 2024, 01:09:09 PM
Here we go.. should actually be a decent one!

https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1752013924554166524

Lots of rumors of them showing a new Metro game for PSVR2 too.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on January 31, 2024, 01:42:57 PM
(https://blog.playstation.com/tachyon/2024/01/3fad54b73bb007dc155ac5b605a321586a98c9ff.jpg?resize=1088%2C612&crop_strategy=smart&zoom=1)

Foamstars being free Day 1?  This'll either be a 1-2 punch for PS, or  sent to die immediately like Destruction All stars.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on January 31, 2024, 05:13:03 PM
Stellar Ass coming April 26th, 2024...   :whew
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on January 31, 2024, 05:19:59 PM
A free Silent Hill game/short available now?  ???
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on January 31, 2024, 05:53:39 PM
Death Stranding 2: On the Beach (lol) looks typical batshit crazy.. totally on board.  And Kojima making a tactical espionage new IP for PS after DS2?  Yes please! 

Rise of the Ronin looks like Ghost of Tsushima with Sekiro/Bloodborne gameplay, and then some.  Gameplay looks quite varied and dope.

That was one of the better SOP they we had in awhile
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on January 31, 2024, 06:07:14 PM
https://youtu.be/V6XYHiBxkvk?si=TCU5bLe9cEA1aSYx

 :phil Jiggle physics not yet nerfed by Sony
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Let's Cyber on January 31, 2024, 08:19:33 PM
Will grab Rise of the Ronin for sure. The graphics aren't great but the setting and action are where it is at.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on February 07, 2024, 10:16:32 AM
Pre-orders are open for Stellar Blade....
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/jAqFGhHDyiA/hqdefault.jpg)
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Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: chronovore on February 15, 2024, 03:54:13 AM
https://youtu.be/V6XYHiBxkvk?si=TCU5bLe9cEA1aSYx

 :phil Jiggle physics not yet nerfed by Sony

The male character looks like he walked out of Death Stranding, the female character looks like she had an accident in a doily shop on her way to a fetish club.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on February 15, 2024, 09:08:50 AM
https://youtu.be/V6XYHiBxkvk?si=TCU5bLe9cEA1aSYx

 :phil Jiggle physics not yet nerfed by Sony

The male character looks like he walked out of Death Stranding, the female character looks like she had an accident in a doily shop on her way to a fetish club.
:lol  Funny how Korean devs, from my perspective, are picking up the reins that Japan trailblazed over 20 years ago with character design, and probably gameplay too.  Still, it's better than alot of western styles.  And with the theme and story of what this game supposedly is, feels fitting that they should be "flawless" and "perfect", so to speak.

I wouldn't be surprised though if one of her skins/outfits has her with a bob haircut and a blindfold...  :doge  Zero shame. lol
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on February 21, 2024, 11:01:37 AM
Well, you can pick up and pet the cats, so I'm sold..

https://youtu.be/int3aDF_M2A?si=I7JDZ3hOyrP8EjYZ
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on March 01, 2024, 09:02:14 AM
Got this hoe-piece pre-ordered...   :phil

https://twitter.com/Okami13_/status/1763377842048356788
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on March 08, 2024, 05:53:52 PM
Stellar Blade Demo shadow dropped!!  :o

https://twitter.com/ShiftUpWorld/status/1766210911889482197


Aaaaaand it's gone... WTFFFFFFFFF
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on March 08, 2024, 06:04:27 PM
Not sure if it was an accident or what, but dropping that on "Internationl Women's Day" is fucking Stellar...

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0c/05/21/0c05214815aca08208caa749c00bce02.gif)
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on March 25, 2024, 08:41:45 AM
https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1772232215092420744
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: MMaRsu on March 27, 2024, 09:45:58 AM
TIL Bluepoint totally butchered Demons Souls  :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY-CEFD8X1Q

This beautiful track isnt even in the remake? smh

Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on March 27, 2024, 10:18:37 AM
TIL Bluepoint totally butchered Demons Souls  :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY-CEFD8X1Q

This beautiful track isnt even in the remake? smh
I thought it plays that in the nexus..  :wtf Not all the time, but queues up every once in awhile.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on April 01, 2024, 12:29:16 PM
Tried out Stellar Blade demo, but only the first intro part.  This game seems pretty damn solid so far.  No janks, just yanks.  :itagaki Glad I pre-ordered this, because I love what I played so far.  Will have to juggle between this and DD2. Feasting!!!

SB feels like a polished Remake of a classic PS2 era title.   :delicious
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Raist on April 01, 2024, 04:00:31 PM
Tried out Stellar Blade demo, but only the first intro part.  This game seems pretty damn solid so far.  No janks, just yanks. 

I think you mean wanks
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on April 15, 2024, 10:02:08 AM
Stellar Blade - Apparently people are finding ways to glitch through walls near the end of demo parking garage, accessing all new areas, gear and cutscenes.
Title: Re: Playstation 5
Post by: Svejk on April 24, 2024, 10:11:36 AM
Stellar Blade getting pretty good reviews.  Another solid banger for 2024!

(https://i.pcmag.com/imagery/reviews/03otbSeJiL3bKqjoO4HYZ9X-3.fit_lim.size_768x.jpg)

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