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Title: Google's in some deep shit [Update: 38 states and territories file 3rd lawsuit]
Post by: Tasty on December 16, 2020, 05:03:54 PM
https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/admin/2020/Press/20201216%20COMPLAINT_REDACTED.pdf

Texas, Arkansas, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Utah
vs.
Google

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"As internal Google documents reveal, Google sought to kill competition and has done so through an array of exclusionary tactics, including an unlawful agreement with Facebook, its largest potential competitive threat, to manipulate advertising auctions."

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211. Google falsely told publishers that adopting AMP would enhance load times, but Google employees knew that AMP only improves the [redacted] and AMP pages can actually [redacted] [redacted] [redacted]. In other words, the ostensible benefits of faster load times for cached AMP version of webpages were not true for publishers that designed their web pages for speed. Some publishers did not adopt AMP because they knew their pages actually loaded faster than AMP pages.

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212. Google also [redacted] of non-AMP ads by giving them artificial one second delays in order to give Google AMP a [redacted] [redacted] slows down header bidding, which Google uses to turn around and denigrate header bidding for being too slow.

 :popcorn :popcorn :popcorn
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 16, 2020, 05:07:53 PM
oops
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: mormapope on December 16, 2020, 05:09:32 PM
bada BING baby
 :playa

Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 16, 2020, 05:14:58 PM
LOL.. that list of states has me pretty suspect of the case.

Yes, but on the other hand they're probably guilty as hell.
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: mormapope on December 16, 2020, 05:16:52 PM
LOL.. that list of states has me pretty suspect of the case.

Bumfuck states of America vs. one of the biggest corporations on the planet. Outcome is Google gets a slap on the wrist.
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: Tasty on December 16, 2020, 05:20:03 PM
The Fed and possibly other states are bringing their own separate lawsuits.
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: Tasty on December 16, 2020, 05:20:58 PM
bada BING baby
 :playa



(https://i.imgur.com/MZlYeAs.gif)
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: Tasty on December 16, 2020, 05:24:39 PM
The Fed and possibly other states are bringing their own separate lawsuits.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/16/technology/google-monopoly-antitrust.html

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In October (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/20/technology/google-antitrust.html), the Justice Department and 11 states said Google had illegally maintained a monopoly over online search engines and the ads that appear in users’ results. An additional case against Google, brought by a separate set of states, is expected soon.
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: headwalk on December 16, 2020, 05:28:20 PM
LOL.. that list of states has me pretty suspect of the case.

trump's sole positive for me was that BIG TECH clearly fucking hated him, which led to a natural division in power to prevent a defacto tech oligarchy. once the buzz of not having a literal spastic running the free world has worn off, the idea of biden's googlebook superfriends wanting to cash the check they wrote to get him in the hot seat is a fairly miserable one.
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: Tasty on December 16, 2020, 05:33:34 PM
I'm on page 10 and my jaw has not stopped dropping. Even with all the redactions this is immensely brazen shit. Goddamn.
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: Transhuman on December 16, 2020, 05:34:10 PM
Australia trying to sue Facebook + google over not paying when they host news content. My money is on Big Tech.
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: Tasty on December 16, 2020, 05:39:26 PM
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Having reached its monopoly position, Google now uses its immense market power to extract a very high tax of [redacted] percent of the ad dollars otherwise flowing to the countless online publishers and content producers like online newspapers, cooking websites, and blogs who survive by selling advertisements on their websites and apps. These costs invariably are passed onto the advertisers themselves and then to American consumers. The monopoly tax Google imposes on American businesses—advertisers like clothing brands, restaurants, and realtors—is a tax that is ultimately borne by American consumers through higher prices and lower quality on the goods, services, and information those businesses provide. Every American suffers when Google imposes its monopoly pricing on the sale of targeted advertising.

(https://i.imgur.com/2NvxdUx.gif)

KO punch under the Sherman Act.

The real question is how high (or low) the fine will be. I'm not sure if anyone could go to jail (IANAL.) :thinking
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: Tasty on December 16, 2020, 05:42:43 PM
LOL.. that list of states has me pretty suspect of the case.

Seems you weren't off (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/16/technology/google-monopoly-antitrust.html):

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But the suit also appeared to have a more partisan flavor. The prosecutors who signed the suit are all Republicans, and it is not expected to be part of the Justice Department case against the company. The other states’ suit against Google, which could come as soon as Thursday, is expected to be signed by Republicans and Democrats and could combine with the federal agency’s case.

:trumps
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: Tasty on December 16, 2020, 06:35:22 PM
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Having reached its monopoly position, Google now uses its immense market power to extract a very high tax of [redacted] percent of the ad dollars otherwise flowing to the countless online publishers and content producers like online newspapers, cooking websites, and blogs who survive by selling advertisements on their websites and apps. These costs invariably are passed onto the advertisers themselves and then to American consumers. The monopoly tax Google imposes on American businesses—advertisers like clothing brands, restaurants, and realtors—is a tax that is ultimately borne by American consumers through higher prices and lower quality on the goods, services, and information those businesses provide. Every American suffers when Google imposes its monopoly pricing on the sale of targeted advertising.

(https://i.imgur.com/2NvxdUx.gif)

KO punch under the Sherman Act.

The real question is how high (or low) the fine will be. I'm not sure if anyone could go to jail (IANAL.) :thinking

This is downright idiotic.. Google became an ad giant by having the best commissions in the business.   They are basically the reason the web didn't become an endless series of monthly fee websites after the .com bust happened.

There's a specific timeline of unambiguously anticompetitive behavior in the PDF that included internal Google quotes which, even redacted, are damning; I encourage you to read the source. That's actually one of the final summarizing points in the preliminary summary.
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: Tasty on December 16, 2020, 06:39:02 PM
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They are basically the reason the web didn't become an endless series of monthly fee websites after the .com bust happened.

Also this honestly might be the preferable model. I've come around to the opinion advertising is inherently unethical. :trumps
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: Tuckers Law on December 16, 2020, 06:44:19 PM
Agreed, I almost without exception loathe advertising.
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: Uncle on December 16, 2020, 06:45:48 PM
hell it's what most sane creators are doing right now, moving to patreon or subscribestar and charging monthly fees, because ad-supported content has you at the inscrutable whim of big companies and sudden adpocalypse that disappears your entire business at a moment's notice
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: Nintex on December 16, 2020, 06:46:56 PM
AMP is a racket and I warned all our clients about it when it became this thing 3 or 4 years ago.

It was just another bullshit framework to replace HTML elements with something proprietary using Javascript and basically locks you into the Google ecosystem.
Google has since changed their approach a bit but there's currently 2000+ open issues on GitHub alone, some dating back to 2018 or earlier that'll never be fixed because they stopped pushing it  :doge

The big website performance improvement is not having CSS block your loading. And the easy fix is loading CSS async through Javascript because that's faster than waiting for all the HTML to load and then finally for the CSS to load.

So you load your 'critical' CSS for the first paint in an inline style tag to prevent content flashes and load your complete CSS files asynchronous with Javascript while the user can already see the page.
AMP did a similar trick where indeed you got faster to first paint but the site didn't really load any faster. In fact by replacing <img> with <amp-img> and other nonsense like that the end result was slower loading times.
In my view Google got lucky with AMP because loading animations were a trend back then. Sites had all these custom load bars and loading overlays so they looked more like apps I suppose but that just added a few milisecs of animation time and made loading times appear longer not shorter.

Some UX guru claimed that having a loading bar made it seem like things were loading faster but that's not true at all. That's also why most boot up and loading screens got replaced with static art instead.
In video games they remain popular but more as a sign to the user that the game is still in fact loading and hasn't locked up. And also gives you some time prepare in games where you need to jump immediately into the action.
With those Nvme SSD's taking center point I suppose loading bars will start to dissapear from games too.
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: headwalk on December 16, 2020, 06:52:03 PM
Agreed, I almost without exception loathe advertising.

made worse by the fact that corporate personhood has become a two way street.
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: Tasty on December 16, 2020, 06:52:16 PM
AMP was something I desperately tried to come up with defenses for back in my (really bad) #GoogleCucked days, and even back then I couldn't come up with shit.

Of course I've always been very partial to the unfettered, free, neutral, open web.
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on December 16, 2020, 07:01:57 PM

KO punch under the Sherman Act.

The real question is how high (or low) the fine will be. I'm not sure if anyone could go to jail (IANAL.) :thinking

 :crowdlaff :girlaff :mueller

Lol at thinking this won’t end with the main culprits resigning with a golden parachute worth millions.
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 16, 2020, 07:02:04 PM
Breaking apart these tech monopolies is long overdue and I don’t care who does it or what states file as long as it gets done.
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: Tasty on December 16, 2020, 07:06:50 PM

KO punch under the Sherman Act.

The real question is how high (or low) the fine will be. I'm not sure if anyone could go to jail (IANAL.) :thinking

 :crowdlaff :girlaff :mueller

Lol at thinking this won’t end with the main culprits resigning with a golden parachute worth millions.

:fbm
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 16, 2020, 07:21:44 PM
Google should dissolve the US government before it gets too powerful.
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: Nintex on December 16, 2020, 07:27:04 PM
They won't be broken up. Instead they will be asked to start regulating themselves. That's what happened with the Russia hack. The old fools asked Zuckerberg what to do and he told them he would build an AI to regulate the news.
And guess what, he did and it 'worked' . Their 'guy' got in and the 'Russian agent' did not. Mission accomplished here's your government grant for military VR helmets Mr. Zuckerberg.

The tech bois nuked Trump from orbit and -they didn't do that only to get split up by the Biden admin, who has former Facebook, Google and whatnot VP's on his transition team.

The shit they pulled during the 2020 election was on another level but most would argue it was for "the greater good". Just stop and think for a bit though what Trump would've done if he had won the election despite being censored by these nerds in the final two months of his campaign. They basically prohibited the sharing of the Hunter Biden story on their platforms and with that they picked their side.

Big tech knows they're too important for the economy and that makes them untouchable. The best case scenario is some paper weight oversight, the worst case scenario is that they create their own regulatory body.
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: team filler on December 16, 2020, 07:29:50 PM
 :stahp
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: Nintex on December 16, 2020, 07:51:33 PM
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-biden-tech-change-suite-idUSKBN28E2DN (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-biden-tech-change-suite-idUSKBN28E2DN)

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/16/the-biden-teams-tug-of-war-over-facebook-436672 (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/16/the-biden-teams-tug-of-war-over-facebook-436672)

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/former-google-executive-eyed-biden-190008670.html (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/former-google-executive-eyed-biden-190008670.html)

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/526668-groups-urge-biden-against-putting-ex-google-head-in-cabinet (https://thehill.com/policy/technology/526668-groups-urge-biden-against-putting-ex-google-head-in-cabinet)

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Former Facebook board member Jeff Zients is co-chairing Biden’s transition team. Another former board member is an adviser. Two others — one who was a Facebook director and another who was a company lobbyist — have taken leadership roles. And Biden himself has a friendly relationship with a top Facebook executive, former U.K. Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg.
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More than a dozen groups signed a letter sent to Biden earlier this week lobbying against Schmidt getting an administration position, largely focusing on allegations over Google’s monopolistic behavior, and writing that such a move could risk Biden’s potential to build back a strong economy.
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Amazon.com Inc's AMZN.O Tom Sullivan, an executive on the public policy team, will be part of Biden's review team overseeing the Department of State. Similarly, Mark Schwartz from Amazon's cloud computing arm, who is also a former Obama administration official, will be weighing in on decisions for the Office of Management and Budget.
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Nicole Wong, a former deputy chief technology officer under the administration of Democratic President Barack Obama and a vice president and deputy general counsel for Alphabet-owned Google GOOGL.O found a spot in the review team for the National Security Council.
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Executives from relatively smaller tech companies such as AirBnB, Uber UBER.N, Lyft LYFT.O, and Stripe were also appointed into these agency review groups.
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President-elect Joe Biden is nearing decisions on the team of officials who will chart his environmental and energy policy, as transition advisers home in on government veterans who can move aggressively to drive his clean-energy agenda.

The candidates include former EPA chief Gina McCarthy and onetime Google executive Arun Majumdar

:biden
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: Tasty on December 16, 2020, 08:03:54 PM
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-biden-tech-change-suite-idUSKBN28E2DN (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-biden-tech-change-suite-idUSKBN28E2DN)

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/16/the-biden-teams-tug-of-war-over-facebook-436672 (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/16/the-biden-teams-tug-of-war-over-facebook-436672)

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/former-google-executive-eyed-biden-190008670.html (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/former-google-executive-eyed-biden-190008670.html)

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/526668-groups-urge-biden-against-putting-ex-google-head-in-cabinet (https://thehill.com/policy/technology/526668-groups-urge-biden-against-putting-ex-google-head-in-cabinet)

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Former Facebook board member Jeff Zients is co-chairing Biden’s transition team. Another former board member is an adviser. Two others — one who was a Facebook director and another who was a company lobbyist — have taken leadership roles. And Biden himself has a friendly relationship with a top Facebook executive, former U.K. Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg.
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More than a dozen groups signed a letter sent to Biden earlier this week lobbying against Schmidt getting an administration position, largely focusing on allegations over Google’s monopolistic behavior, and writing that such a move could risk Biden’s potential to build back a strong economy.
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Amazon.com Inc's AMZN.O Tom Sullivan, an executive on the public policy team, will be part of Biden's review team overseeing the Department of State. Similarly, Mark Schwartz from Amazon's cloud computing arm, who is also a former Obama administration official, will be weighing in on decisions for the Office of Management and Budget.
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Nicole Wong, a former deputy chief technology officer under the administration of Democratic President Barack Obama and a vice president and deputy general counsel for Alphabet-owned Google GOOGL.O found a spot in the review team for the National Security Council.
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Executives from relatively smaller tech companies such as AirBnB, Uber UBER.N, Lyft LYFT.O, and Stripe were also appointed into these agency review groups.
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President-elect Joe Biden is nearing decisions on the team of officials who will chart his environmental and energy policy, as transition advisers home in on government veterans who can move aggressively to drive his clean-energy agenda.

The candidates include former EPA chief Gina McCarthy and onetime Google executive Arun Majumdar

:biden

As hypocritical as it is for me to say this in this thread specifically, those are still much, much better options than what we've been living through for the past four years. Like holy shit what a relief they're just hollowed-out, soul-sucking FAANG execs.
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: Nintex on December 16, 2020, 08:08:06 PM
Huh; the initial news about Biden's transition team was making a big deal about Google/Facebook specifically being absent.

I apologize kind sir.
Yeah, everyone was relieved they weren't on board but it seemed like they were just waiting for the money to become available.

This echoes the 2016 transition when the 'revolutionaries' and campaign 'volunteers' were sidelined quickly by GOP lobbyists and others who knew their way around Washington.
With Biden it's probably the same thing. Someone who organized an anti-climate protest or GOTV operation does not have the connections, resources or access you need to get hired at the White House.
People in Silicon Valley, DC think tanks, consultancy firms and political networks do.
I read there was a consultancy group with a rather boring name "West Point Consulting" or something that was basically Biden's new administration in waiting.
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on December 16, 2020, 08:08:26 PM
lol google fucked up
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: Tasty on December 16, 2020, 08:15:50 PM
lol google fucked up

To fuck up so brazenly and for so long and to have it be sanctioned so officially is the real mindfuck. :mindblown

Like, Sundar must have known about all this shit.
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: Uncle on December 16, 2020, 08:36:39 PM
As hypocritical as it is for me to say this in this thread specifically, those are still much, much better options than what we've been living through for the past four years. Like holy shit what a relief they're just hollowed-out, soul-sucking FAANG execs.

hopefully they'll whisper in biden's ear "don't fuck with section 230 holy shit"
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: Tasty on December 17, 2020, 04:30:28 PM
The Fed and possibly other states are bringing their own separate lawsuits.

https://coag.gov/app/uploads/2020/12/Colorado-et-al.-v.-Google-PUBLIC-REDACTED-Complaint.pdf

Colorado, Nebraska, Arizona, Iowa, New York, North Carolina, Tennessee, Utah, Alaska, Connecticut, Delaware, Washington D.C., Guam, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Kansas, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Puerto Rico, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Vermont, Virginia, Washington State, West Virginia, and Wyoming
vs.
Google
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit [Update: 38 states and territories file 3rd lawsuit]
Post by: Nintex on December 17, 2020, 04:43:21 PM
Google

(https://i.ktt2.com/https://66.media.tumblr.com/60d698a1a04bda9a990b6db2fa3b65d6/ea8c7d693ca8f820-f8/s500x750/f8b18133ef74eb19aaa53cd9e9fb44c60c8390ff.gif)
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit [Update: 38 states and territories file 3rd lawsuit]
Post by: Tasty on December 17, 2020, 04:50:35 PM
North Dakota, Idaho, South Dakota, and Utah are part of both of this week's lawsuits.

That leaves 9 states that are (so far) neglecting to file their own lawsuits or are refusing to join the existing ones.

Those states are:

Alabama, California, Florida, Georgia, Montana, South Carolina, Wisconsin, Louisiana, and Michigan.

Edit- California, Michigan, and Wisconsin have apparently asked to join the DoJ suit. (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/17/3rd-antitrust-lawsuit-hits-google-447741)

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The states’ suit is more wide-ranging than DOJ’s, which more narrowly focused on how Google has used contracts with smartphone makers and browsers like Apple’s Safari and Mozilla’s Firefox to maintain its dominance in online search. That lawsuit saw support from 11 states, all headed by conservative Republicans who support the Trump administration.

California later asked to join that suit, but U.S. District Judge Amit Mehta has yet to approve that request. Michigan and Wisconsin, both helmed by Democrats, also asked the court Thursday to join the DOJ's suit.

That leaves only 6 states not going after Google. This could get pretty ugly.
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit [Update: 38 states and territories file 3rd lawsuit]
Post by: Nintex on December 17, 2020, 04:55:47 PM
North Dakota, Idaho, South Dakota, and Utah are part of both of this week's lawsuits.

That leaves 9 states that are (so far) neglecting to file their own lawsuits or are refusing to join the existing ones.

Those states are:

Alabama, California, Florida, Georgia, Montana, South Carolina, Wisconsin, Louisiana, and Michigan.
You mean the states that committed tremendous fraud are in Google's pocket? :trumps
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit [Update: 38 states and territories file 3rd lawsuit]
Post by: Tasty on December 17, 2020, 04:57:54 PM
North Dakota, Idaho, South Dakota, and Utah are part of both of this week's lawsuits.

That leaves 9 states that are (so far) neglecting to file their own lawsuits or are refusing to join the existing ones.

Those states are:

Alabama, California, Florida, Georgia, Montana, South Carolina, Wisconsin, Louisiana, and Michigan.
You mean the states that committed tremendous fraud are in Google's pocket? :trumps

See edit. Michigan and Wisconsin are pending to join the DoJ suit.

Also, no. Don't be as much of a moron as the Prez, thanks.
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: headwalk on December 18, 2020, 06:45:41 AM
The Fed and possibly other states are bringing their own separate lawsuits.

https://coag.gov/app/uploads/2020/12/Colorado-et-al.-v.-Google-PUBLIC-REDACTED-Complaint.pdf

Colorado, Nebraska, Arizona, Iowa, New York, North Carolina, Tennessee, Utah, Alaska, Connecticut, Delaware, Washington D.C., Guam, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Kansas, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Puerto Rico, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Vermont, Virginia, Washington State, West Virginia, and Wyoming
vs.
Google

google: "let's have a look at what you've all been searching for shall we?"
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit [Update: 38 states and territories file 3rd lawsuit]
Post by: ringlow on December 22, 2020, 02:30:54 PM
This all feels a bit late, but ill take it
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: Himu on December 23, 2020, 12:59:41 PM
bada BING baby
 :playa

Sun ti-zu. Art of War, baby
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: Uncle on December 23, 2020, 01:28:17 PM
bada BING baby
 :playa

I used bing yesterday for the first time in like 6 years because I wanted to watch a movie and google has SEO'd free movie sites the fuck out of existence, couldn't find a single one

bing? a putlocker link was in the top results
:rejoice
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit [Update: 38 states and territories file 3rd lawsuit]
Post by: Tasty on December 23, 2020, 01:42:56 PM
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I used bing yesterday for the first time in like 6 years because I wanted to watch a movie and google has SEO'd free movie sites the fuck out of existence, couldn't find a single one

It's also possible the results were DMCA'd. If so, there would be a link to ChillingEffects.org at the bottom of the page.
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: Himu on December 23, 2020, 02:46:50 PM
bada BING baby
 :playa

I used bing yesterday for the first time in like 6 years because I wanted to watch a movie and google has SEO'd free movie sites the fuck out of existence, couldn't find a single one

bing? a putlocker link was in the top results
:rejoice

Google is trash now.

The other week I couldn't find shit on google without going to like page 4-6 on a search. I went to Bing and got far better results.

Reddit thread the other week said the same thing.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/kcfh35/has_anyone_else_noticed_the_huge_decrease_in/

33k upvotes.

Google sucks now. I switched to Bing. Much happier now. PS: I've been using Google as a search engine since I was a freshman in High School. I'm in my 30's. Massive L for the big G.
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit [Update: 38 states and territories file 3rd lawsuit]
Post by: team filler on December 23, 2020, 02:55:57 PM
I recently switched back to the goo from duckduckgo :doge
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit [Update: 38 states and territories file 3rd lawsuit]
Post by: ringlow on December 28, 2020, 08:19:09 AM
I recently switched back to the goo from duckduckgo :doge
Been using duckduckfuck for years, wont go back to getting targeted ads for extra small condoms while I have guests over  :mjcry :nope
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit [Update: 38 states and territories file 3rd lawsuit]
Post by: Tasty on January 10, 2022, 12:45:06 PM
https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7d7j9/google-had-secret-project-to-convince-employees-that-unions-suck

The scale has tipped for me. Time to explore ungoogling.
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit [Update: 38 states and territories file 3rd lawsuit]
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on January 10, 2022, 12:48:43 PM
Good guys lost against the gooder guys. = (
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit [Update: 38 states and territories file 3rd lawsuit]
Post by: Rufus on January 10, 2022, 01:56:15 PM
I've been using Duck Duck Go for a while now.

It's - adequate. :doge
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit [Update: 38 states and territories file 3rd lawsuit]
Post by: demi on January 10, 2022, 02:28:24 PM
Fuck Google and their dumb ass requirements - first AMP and now they have their dumbass web vitals shit

"Sorry, you didn't move this CSS here. FAIL"
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit [Update: 38 states and territories file 3rd lawsuit]
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 10, 2022, 02:28:46 PM
Use Bing to get Microsoft Points that you can trade in for free Game Pass Ultimate. #ad
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit [Update: 38 states and territories file 3rd lawsuit]
Post by: who is ted danson? on January 10, 2022, 03:12:45 PM
web3 fixes this. Your searches, emails and photos be stored on the blockchain. An immutable record free from corporate control. 🚀🚀
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit [Update: 38 states and territories file 3rd lawsuit]
Post by: D3RANG3D on January 10, 2022, 03:43:40 PM
Use Yandex. :putin

Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit
Post by: chronovore on January 21, 2022, 04:30:55 AM
LOL.. that list of states has me pretty suspect of the case.

Bumfuck states of America vs. one of the biggest corporations on the planet. Outcome is Google gets a slap on the wrist.
The trouble is that just about any amount of money is a "slap on the wrist" for Google.
AGENCY, William Gibson's 2nd book in The Peripheral sequence, introduced me to the concept of having a War Chest just for infractions. From the outset, the strategy involves breaking laws -- but only laws with a financial punishment, not incarceration. This was something of a revelation to my naïve mind.

http://twitter.com/bicknaker/status/1352308102868201474
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit [Update: 38 states and territories file 3rd lawsuit]
Post by: Tasty on January 21, 2022, 11:07:36 AM
FiCore crimes 99% of the time end up being a fine. I don't see how fines are an exclusively poor people problem.

Mass incarceration seems like it would disproportionately effect poor people more than fines compared to the rich.
Title: Re: Google's in some deep shit [Update: 38 states and territories file 3rd lawsuit]
Post by: HardcoreRetro on January 22, 2022, 05:12:41 AM
That's not what it's arguing. If you have fuck-off money, you don't care about a few hundred bucks. If those few hundred bucks are the money you need to buy food for the month, that's a huge fucking problem.

A fine like that is basically just saying, if you're rich enough, you can do whatever the fuck you want.