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Title: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: remy on July 14, 2021, 11:49:29 PM: Boring bland, no horror at all, bright pop try hard to be cool, just a desert anime wasteland yuck :yuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu_4XMujHNE
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: Let's Cyber on July 15, 2021, 03:30:40 AM: It looks so good, I can't wait

:aah
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Post by: Mr Gilhaney on July 15, 2021, 07:33:00 AM: looks fun, will pirate
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Post by: Joe Molotov on July 15, 2021, 10:10:11 AM: femboy protag :jeb
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Post by: MMaRsu on November 11, 2021, 04:40:35 AM: Game is dope, about 8 hrs in
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Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 11, 2021, 05:01:07 AM: filthy pirates aren't alowed to comment :hmph
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Post by: archnemesis on November 11, 2021, 05:01:44 AM: Waiting for my digital copy to unlock.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: MMaRsu on November 11, 2021, 09:37:49 AM: Quote from: Pissy F Benny on November 11, 2021, 05:01:07 AM
filthy pirates aren't alowed to comment :hmph

Will buy tho
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: BIONIC on November 11, 2021, 09:45:25 AM: Quote from: MMaRsu on November 11, 2021, 09:37:49 AM
Quote from: Pissy F Benny on November 11, 2021, 05:01:07 AM
filthy pirates aren't alowed to comment :hmph

Will buy tho

Alright, I believe ya

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But my Tommy gun don’t :gun
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Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: tiesto on November 11, 2021, 07:43:25 PM: Missed out on the CE, I'm hoping I can track down one locally in the next few days instead of playing inflated scalper prices.
Might just go ahead with the steelbook version.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: Bebpo on November 11, 2021, 07:50:22 PM: I'm salty they pushed back the digital release date by a day.

Game was 11/11 last week when I pre-ordered. Now it's 11/12 :maf
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: remy on November 11, 2021, 08:00:30 PM: Drove to the city yesterday to get a phys copy and relised aus date was the 12th also.

thanks google for lying about nov11
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: MMaRsu on November 12, 2021, 02:45:50 AM: Im getting into the groove but im not really loving the first area.

I also think the game doenst really explain shit too well. I thought the intro and dripfeed of new mechanics in SMT IV was a lot better.

Granted im only 8 hours in but.....
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: MMaRsu on November 12, 2021, 05:45:58 AM: (https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/megamitensei/images/3/37/Amanozako.png/revision/latest?cb=20210911013651)

This right here? Annoying
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 12, 2021, 08:25:53 AM: Still working my way through the beginning, in terms of performance this is an absolute dog
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: MMaRsu on November 12, 2021, 09:30:44 AM: Quote from: Sho Nuff on November 12, 2021, 08:25:53 AM
Still working my way through the beginning, in terms of performance this is an absolute dog

I read that, if you can rip it and play on pc, at 60fps 'ish'
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Post by: Bebpo on November 12, 2021, 11:13:05 AM: Switch hardware, years in and devs still struggle for decent performance.

We really need Switch 2 stat.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 12, 2021, 01:55:38 PM: Went to grab this physical this morning and nobody has it. Guess I need to wait.

I refuse to step foot in a god forsaken Gamestop in 2021.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on November 12, 2021, 02:02:36 PM: My copy is out for delivery (which could mean any time between 4pm and 10:30pm).
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Post by: bork on November 12, 2021, 02:51:21 PM: Quote from: Joe Molotov on November 12, 2021, 02:02:36 PM
My copy is out for delivery (which could mean any time between 4pm and 10:30pm).

Just got mine- Amazon was trying to scare everyone with delay threats
:tinfoil
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: paprikastaude on November 13, 2021, 03:01:34 PM: https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/qsgwxa/shin_megami_tensei_v_source_code_shows_target/

:thinking

I already didn't get this day1, so I might as well wait whether Playstation is real.
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Post by: demi on November 13, 2021, 08:33:14 PM: Had no problem picking up a copy, I didnt know all launch copies are steelbook
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Post by: MMaRsu on November 14, 2021, 07:55:50 AM: Im about 12/13 hours in, game is dope af but I am missing a lot from SMT IV here. It also doesnt seem nearly as polished as smt iv but I dunno 🤷🏼‍♂️
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Post by: demi on November 14, 2021, 01:55:16 PM: Man I missed SMT. Having fun so far. Naruto running all around, offering my hard earned Macca and HP for new allies
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Post by: demi on November 14, 2021, 05:13:15 PM: Not sure what the purpose of Essences are yet, I guess if I want to outfit some demons with certain spells or change my resistance for a boss
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: demi on November 14, 2021, 08:50:06 PM: Beat the first boss, damn that was tanky. SMT baby
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Post by: Joe Molotov on November 15, 2021, 08:58:54 AM: Can't wait to unlock the S. Links!
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: MMaRsu on November 15, 2021, 10:54:16 AM: Quote from: Joe Molotov on November 15, 2021, 08:58:54 AM
Can't wait to unlock the S. Links!

S.link these nuts
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: demi on November 15, 2021, 11:31:51 AM: Quote from: Joe Molotov on November 15, 2021, 08:58:54 AM
Can't wait to unlock the S. Links!

does it feel bad looking at yourself in the mirror and seeing this digitally rendered monster has a bigger penis than you?

(https://i.imgur.com/aGHh9St.jpg)
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 15, 2021, 01:48:24 PM: I dunno, it's pretty close.
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Post by: Sho Nuff on November 15, 2021, 08:30:11 PM: Goddamn resolution is so low I didn't even notice his adorable eggplant peen
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: remy on November 15, 2021, 09:20:55 PM: :cody
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: bork on November 15, 2021, 11:26:26 PM: https://twitter.com/urbanfriendden/status/1460260395424251909

https://twitter.com/Terranigma23/status/1460333815017132038
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: Kevtones on November 16, 2021, 02:47:06 AM: Love the art and character design. Demon art especially. The music is absolutely superb and the dissonant sound design with its weighted distortion... It’s so, so good.

Also managed to die already. I like the Miman stuff actually because they seem to know how to hide little feral x fetal dudes in the wilderness. QOL is a bit better now too in terms of respecting player time vs SMT3.

Performance during menu switches needs work. Give me sterile data SMT3 menu switches.

Steelbook is a nice surprise. That art pops and my wife even asked me about it. Still considering spending for that limited edition.
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Post by: MMaRsu on November 17, 2021, 05:27:18 AM: Aw yeah beat the second boss
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 18, 2021, 10:31:23 AM: I beat the first boss last night and explored the area for Minans. Goko is a bro, just wanna hang out and do Buddha stuff with him.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: tiesto on November 18, 2021, 02:26:23 PM: Had some amazon gift cards sitting around so I caved in and paid the scalper's price for the Fall of Man Premium Edition.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: paprikastaude on November 18, 2021, 06:06:40 PM: Open world :-\ How much of the "secrets" and sidecontent do icons give away on the map?
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Post by: MMaRsu on November 18, 2021, 06:37:56 PM: The exploration is awesome
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Post by: MMaRsu on November 18, 2021, 07:42:56 PM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXhYlgvCbfE
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 18, 2021, 10:40:34 PM: It's open-world in the way Xenoblade is in that it's just big environments with a sense of scale. Though they aren't connected so it doesn't have that going for it.

But either way between this an YS 9, I'm down with JRPG developers actually making the moving of the character fun.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: Mr. Nobody on November 20, 2021, 11:28:19 PM: 13 hours in and loving it. Worst things I can say about it is that the Switch's performance doesn't do the game justice (the frame drop switching from menu to in game and texture pop-in :yuck) and the OST while good isn't as good as SMT4, but most game OSTs aren't.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 22, 2021, 11:08:35 PM: Levels here feel very big and expansive. Since of scale is done really well.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 25, 2021, 04:27:22 AM: Quote from: Rahxephon91 on November 22, 2021, 11:08:35 PM
Levels here feel very big and expansive. Since of scale is done really well.
Yes! When you turn the camera up to see giant twisted architecture and bizarre structures stretching the sky, it's a nice touch.

Even with the performance issues, this game is a breath of fresh air. Definitely my GotY so far.
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Post by: demi on November 25, 2021, 10:55:45 PM: I really dont like they brought back the MC death = game over. SMT4 much better for this

Also feels real bad losing to a dice roll
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 26, 2021, 05:31:39 PM: I don't know the actual insta-death percentage is for "low chance" but I did get Mamudo'd by Pazuzu.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on November 26, 2021, 09:36:19 PM: Having an enemy ambush you during a cutscene and insta-kill the MC is very fun and very cool.
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Post by: MMaRsu on November 27, 2021, 03:41:33 AM: Thats why you always save
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 29, 2021, 10:49:25 AM: Oh I do. I'll save, change my demons around, save again, remember that I need to buy/sell some things, save again, leave the save point, "wait, did I remember to save?", go back and save again, "do I have enough glory to buy any miracles?", save again, fight two monsters, "I better go back and save". That's why I'm 15 hours in and I've only just started the second underworld area.
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Post by: demi on November 29, 2021, 11:58:36 AM: LOL yup the shin megami tensei experience

I just hit the uh... third world? I think I'm at the point where I fight Surt, so maybe the middle point of the third area. Which... looks exactly like the parts before it.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: MMaRsu on December 05, 2021, 06:05:41 PM: Just bought the physical edition for my birthday tomorrow, I wont feel bad about continueing my emu game. Gonna keep it sealed tho
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: MMaRsu on December 06, 2021, 02:53:41 AM: Any of you have the Fall of Man premium edition?

Its 175..I just paid 75€ for the normal game...

Its not worth the extra 100€ is it?
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: HardcoreRetro on December 06, 2021, 03:36:59 AM: Why the hell are you buying scalped copies? Gamemania still had it at it's retail 60 euros.

The fall of man edition is 100 euros. Anything you're paying beyond that, you're just lining some asshole's pockets.
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Post by: MMaRsu on December 06, 2021, 03:45:09 AM: Quote from: HardcoreRetro on December 06, 2021, 03:36:59 AM
Why the hell are you buying scalped copies? Gamemania still had it at it's retail 60 euros.

The fall of man edition is 100 euros. Anything you're paying beyond that, you're just lining some asshole's pockets.

I looked everywhere but I cant find it for 60 in Gamemania. Its just not available.. Except for pickup in some stores (which are far away)

Fall of Man edition same thing. Thats just not available anywhere anymore

On Amazon the normal edition was 75 euros.. It had one day shipping so I should get it today/tomorrow for my birthday at least. I thought my GF was picking up the game for me, but she said she didnt and now I gotta buy it myself
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Post by: HardcoreRetro on December 06, 2021, 04:59:32 AM: French amazon has it for 45 euros. 6 euros for shipping to the Netherlands. Don't pay scalpers.
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Post by: MMaRsu on December 06, 2021, 06:40:29 AM: Dutch Amazon has it for 75 lol.. (sold by Amazon) Ill see if I can return it and order from Amazon.fr
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Post by: Kevtones on December 11, 2021, 03:39:16 AM: Gamestop US has this $37

Also PSA the recent patch added a game changing FOV slider. I kept trying to find a camera change button and this is perfect. Makes the game much better (it was already awesome).
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 14, 2021, 11:40:10 AM: Got a $35 copy from Amazon, first Switch game I've bought not for my kid all year.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: Let's Cyber on January 01, 2022, 07:44:03 AM: Has sold 800k, is now the best selling in mainline series history

https://personacentral.com/atlus-2022-smtv-sales/

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As a point of comparison, Shin Megami Tensei IV achieved 600k total sales 2 years after its initial May 2013 release, in July 2015.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 03, 2022, 08:29:41 PM: I wrapped it over the holiday. It was good. That being said, the thing I didn't like is that there was jack shit in terms of anything in terms of actual Tokyo landmarks, I never felt like I was in post-apocalyptic Tokyo. There was Tokyo Tower and the Ginza clock building and that was it.

In every other SMT you get hyped when you go to a new zone because it's gonna look like wrecked Tokyo and you're gonna fight demons in Shibuya scramble crossing or Shinjuku station, in this it's just sand dunes and a bunch of building meshes that they rotated 45 degrees and jammed into the ground like it's a Disaster Report game.

Also difficulty was fucked on the easier settings; Easy was still nice and brutal, but the level beneath that was literally "the MC can one-shot any enemy, you big baby." SMT4 and Nocturne's easier modes were far better.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 05, 2022, 11:48:39 AM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BuZamufWAs

Thats all I can think of whenever anyone opens their mouth in the story.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 06, 2022, 10:42:15 PM: Finished it today. I think the game is good, but I don't think it's 100% a home run.

I mean the combat is great. At this point Atlus has this press turn the battle system down to a science. Just from the fact that the order of how your party is set up flows into how you do debuffs and buffs(for example, I always have the dude that can do armor price, so the next dude can do his super physical attack) just shows how everything in the combat is in synch. You just start thinking about turn order naturally. The demon fusing and party making feel easier and more accessible than before. Mostly thanks to the whole Demon essence thing, which makes kitting out demons you like pretty easy going. Mechanically there's nothing really to complain about other than I guess the meter system. It's pretty easy to ignore and even when bosses use their meter attack, it really just means use one of those dampeners before their turn.

I guess most of my problems with the game have more to do with the structure of the game. There's what two dungeons? And those dungeons feel more like filler than anything. The first one with the air vents is cool at first but gets annoying with the third part. The 2nd one is just kind of boring and straightforward. Both are basically just box room textures over and over.

It's the open-world field where most of the game takes place. And they are cool. Some of them(the first one really) feel neat in how they capture the abstract post-apocalypse. Tokyo Tower in a shinny desolate desert is neat imagery. The game is full of neat imagery, but the areas lose their luster. I mean at first, the scale is quite well done and I'm big on this trend of making the walking part of JRPGS not boring. It isn't boring here. You're running around a desert and jumping on rooftops. Cool.

But, by the 3rd time, it becomes a little boring and the 4th area just tedious. I mean it's really just the color that changes, the environments begin to blur together in bland city ruins. Not only that, you really feel like yeah you are just doing the same thing. It starts to feel like filler. Not curated filler like in the jrpgs of old. Yeah, a PS1 RPG can have you go through a dungeon and have it go on forever. But when you're done with it, you get a story beat and you move unto an area that hopefully looks different, has a new story thrust to it, and maybe its own gimmick.

Here since the story takes a back seat, you get done with one field, have that story beat drop, and then you are basically asked to do the whole process again. Go fight the filler mid-tier bosses at the boss points we just threw together, find the little treasure people, find the treasure caches. Basic copy and paste open world stuff. Thinley veiled with SMT wrapping, very thinly. Its not game-breaking, but anyone with a critical eye will probably see the vapidness.

The visuals....well honestly the game looks great at times. Image quality is rough and animation can feel a bit budget at times. But its also just a personal opinion that these character models look like 90s demon anime toys power by unreal engine. It just doesn't have that mature, cold, and abstract look of three. I think dropping cel-shading was a bad idea. Instead of going for a FFesque real-anime look that I don't think it pulls off.

Speaking of anime, I guess one of the fears about this game would be that the story would be too anime. I don't think it is, even though my Japanese teen joining the Japanese secret demon society squad is kind of lame. As is a certain obvious sad boy's turn. Lame and silly-looking. But upon thinking more the story is strong in themes if it isn't in actual events, characterization, and/or plot. Instead, I think it does achieve its goal of reflecting the challenges of the modern-day. We are kind of in a godless society. What does that mean and how should people lead their lives? I just think the story is full of these themes, but it can feel like it meanders, characters show up say something and then disappear while you feel little agency or rush. Maybe that was the point, the vibe. At many times during the game, I would just look at the screen confused, major things would seemingly happen, but they would drop on you like they were nothing. Maybe the melancholy feel fits into the unheroic angle the story is going for. Nothing feels "epic". It can instead feel pointless, but maybe that's the point.

I enjoyed the game. Atlus makes another jrpg that excels in gameplay, but is unrelenting in being it's own thing. I just think its a little lame when the seams show and you see the parts that wanted to be trendy.
Title: Re: Shin Megami Tensei V
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 06, 2022, 11:42:59 PM: Agreed 100%. WTF was with two dungeons that looked like they used the same texture