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Title: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 07, 2021, 08:44:09 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5X9RUOEOoNQ

August 13th on Amazon Prime, Shinji will get in the goddamn robot one last time. :lawd
Title: Re: We’re less than a week away…
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 08, 2021, 03:49:52 AM
:confused

infowars is coming to amazon?
Title: Re: We’re less than a week away…
Post by: Nintex on August 08, 2021, 06:25:14 AM
We need an Asuka emoji  :hmph
Title: Re: We’re less than a week away…
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 08, 2021, 07:13:38 AM
:asuka
Title: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 08, 2021, 10:09:38 AM




On Friday, August 13... bye bye, all of Evangelion. (https://www.amazon.com/EVANGELION-1-01-THRICE-UPON-TIME/dp/B098VW137N)



(https://i.imgur.com/1VU0U6P.jpg)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Uhh62MUEic



I love you more than you'll ever know.
Title: Re: We’re less than a week away…
Post by: Tasty on August 08, 2021, 10:38:43 AM
I should have known Joe would take up the Eva charge while I was gone. Feel free to merge threads. :doge

Really excited for this. Would have never thought I'd see this legally the same year it was released in Japan.

First (and last) piece of new Eva media released while I'm actually a fan... (Been a while since 3.0/2012.) I think I'm ready.😤

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I'm not ready :tocry
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Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 08, 2021, 05:15:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmKRgqWGrWc
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: team filler on August 08, 2021, 05:21:06 PM
I've never watch a single ep, is it good  ???
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 08, 2021, 05:59:02 PM
I've never watch a single ep, is it good  ???

If you like 90s anime and/or mecha stuff it's pretty great. Goes from standard tropes (done well) to a more introspective/head-fucky place towards the end, but it's overall a fun anime. Hard not to feel something for the characters too, which is rare in any medium (from my perspective.)

It's like, some people enjoy and seek out eurojank games. It's not anything objective, but how you react to it.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 09, 2021, 04:18:05 AM
It's worth it just to get to The End of Evangelion which is absolutely fantastic.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 09, 2021, 05:17:31 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXcxx8W-vgU

:tocry
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Nintex on August 09, 2021, 07:18:07 AM
Well at least the internet didn't make their meme president this time :trumps
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 09, 2021, 09:41:46 AM
I rewatched 2.22 last night. It's my first time rewatching the Rebuild movies since 3.33 came out on Blu-Ray (2014) because it felt bad to watch them knowing that Part 4 was years away at best, and at worse Hideaki Anno had just gotten bored of the whole thing and abandoned the project all together. But now that the final part is coming out, I feel like I can finally really sit down and enjoy them for the first time.

:rejoice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWfgVDcq2uU
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 09, 2021, 01:12:40 PM
It's worth it just to get to The End of Evangelion which is absolutely fantastic.

End of Eva stands alongside Satoshi Kon projects as my personal pinnacle for 2D animated film.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 09, 2021, 01:15:38 PM
I rewatched 2.22 last night. It's my first time rewatching the Rebuild movies since 3.33 came out on Blu-Ray (2014) because it felt bad to watch them knowing that Part 4 was years away at best, and at worse Hideaki Anno had just gotten bored of the whole thing and abandoned the project all together. But now that the final part is coming out, I feel like I can finally really sit down and enjoy them for the first time.

:rejoice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWfgVDcq2uU

I went through them all last year in prep for 3.0+1.0, loved seeing the progression from "what you know" to "what you know, with some twists" to "you don't fucking know anything."

I ponder and meditate over 3.33 (and End of Eva) a lot.

Was always worried how the 3D integrated visuals would age but they really haven't. Love Rebuild.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 09, 2021, 01:41:37 PM
Yeah, the movies still look great. I loved the scene of early morning in Tokyo-III, with all the mirrors turning to face the sun and rail lines switching tracks. Gonna watch 3.33 tonight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGzJOeyJgFM

Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 09, 2021, 02:50:04 PM
Yeah, the movies still look great. I loved the scene of early morning in Tokyo-III, with all the mirrors turning to face the sun and rail lines switching tracks. Gonna watch 3.33 tonight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGzJOeyJgFM



Yeah I mean, 1.0 was fucking 2007. They cleaned stuff up for 1.01 and 1.11 but it's still incredible almost 15 years later (JESUS CHRIST). Were there even contemporary anime in 2007 integrating 3D to compare to? Most of the stuff I've seen even years later is Reboot-level lmao.

2.22 and 3.33 look even better.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 09, 2021, 03:08:17 PM
Fyi Tiffany Grant is apparently super bitter over the Netflix dub. :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paZuAQSXZ-Y

I think she got announced for the new Rebuild dubs apparently coming down the pipe, so she should be happy with that at least. Hopefully she gets to finish off the role with 3.0+1.0 next year or something, she's been Asuka for almost 25 years now. I hope she gets closure.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2021-08-07/amazon-prime-video-lists-new-english-dub-cast-for-1st-3-rebuild-of-evangelion-films/.175998

I'm only speculating here but I think Anno/Khara were so upset with the original 3.0 dub that they severed ties with Funimation after its release. The Netflix dub was in-house IIRC, and the new Rebuild dubs are apparently by some outfit called "Dubbing Brothers USA". ???
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: team filler on August 09, 2021, 03:24:01 PM
do I gotta watch the movies to keep up with the story  ??? I p much never bother with movies and just stick to the show with everything.

sometimes I do wonder if I should check out some of the one piece movies, but it seems like retread of what I already watched  :thinking
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 09, 2021, 03:31:11 PM
do I gotta watch the movies to keep up with the story  ??? I p much never bother with movies and just stick to the show with everything.

sometimes I do wonder if I should check out some of the one piece movies, but it seems like retread of what I already watched  :thinking

The movies are basically an alternate timeline from the show. They start out covering the same ground as the show, but then turn into a different thing.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: team filler on August 09, 2021, 03:34:49 PM
I'll just watch the movies and not bother with the show  :success
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 09, 2021, 05:18:56 PM
I'll just watch the movies and not bother with the show  :success

It won't ruin the experience. My advice would be start with the show, though.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 10, 2021, 12:25:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmKRgqWGrWc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVsDtG1y_Qs

(https://i.imgur.com/2V5FYB0.jpg)
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 10, 2021, 12:41:54 AM
Good, or don't be.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJi5HaJyz2I


She said, “Don’t make others suffer for your personal hatred.”
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 11, 2021, 10:40:20 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/owodq3y.jpg)
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 12, 2021, 09:27:02 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/tyGjEUT.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 12, 2021, 11:51:50 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17Coh0W903k
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 12, 2021, 02:24:27 PM
https://twitter.com/KFC_ES/status/1425742406432006147
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: team filler on August 12, 2021, 02:32:27 PM
https://twitter.com/Ravuloz/status/1425689461048979456
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 12, 2021, 09:41:30 PM
https://getindianews.com/anime-evangelion-3-01-0-thrice-upon-a-time-streaming-release-date-and-time-on-amazon-prime-video/

10am Eastern tomorrow. Anyone know if real?
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 12, 2021, 11:18:01 PM
I haven’t heard for sure
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 12, 2021, 11:20:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17Coh0W903k

Rewatched Episodes 25 & 26 today mostly because you posted this. :lol Also rewatched EoE just to be refreshed on all previous endings.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: thetylerrob on August 13, 2021, 12:39:45 AM
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1426033109363879938

 :drudge :drudge :drudge :drudge :drudge
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 13, 2021, 08:27:22 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EO15LFcWoAAZvcb.jpg)
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 13, 2021, 08:55:13 AM
All Rebuilds are live on Prime Video.

REBUILD MARATHON GO TIME!!!

2007

2009

2012

2021

The legacy of Eva.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 13, 2021, 09:44:27 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/ZLrR6SSl.jpg)

Very high quality shirt material, I get the impression it's gonna last. Which is good since I intend to wear it when I stream the  3.0+1.0 dub in 2025.

Wearing this all day today. :rejoice
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: team filler on August 13, 2021, 12:50:18 PM
All Rebuilds are live on Prime Video.

REBUILD MARATHON GO TIME!!!

2007

2009

2012

2021

The legacy of Eva.
what's this rebuild stuff?
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 13, 2021, 01:06:15 PM
All Rebuilds are live on Prime Video.

REBUILD MARATHON GO TIME!!!

2007

2009

2012

2021

The legacy of Eva.
what's this rebuild stuff?

Officially, Evangelion is divided into two continuities.

The 26-episode anime + End of Evangelion, all released in the 90s.

And the four movies collectively called "Rebuild of Evangelion", released as 1.11, 2.22, 3.33, and 3.0+1.0. These correspond to the release dates in my original post.

1.11 and 2.22 recap the series up to about episode 24 with minor-but-actually-kinda-major differences. 3.33 and 3.0+1.0 are completely new material.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 13, 2021, 01:07:39 PM
Finished 1.11 and halfway through 2.22 now. First new observation on this rewatch having seen the series last year is they've actually softened Gendo quite a bit. Super interested to see where this leads.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 13, 2021, 01:17:30 PM
Neon Genesis Evangelion debuted on October 4, 1995.

<12 years>

The first Rebuild film was released on September 1, 2007.

<14 years>

The final Rebuild film was released on March 8, 2021.

:mindblown
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 13, 2021, 02:40:01 PM
:rejoice The birth of a new world….Neon Genesis. :rejoice
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: team filler on August 13, 2021, 04:29:41 PM
just got through the opening of the first ep  :whew dat was a bop  :rimshot


feel like I heard it before, it's familiar  :thinking
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: team filler on August 13, 2021, 05:12:58 PM
shinji the mary sue  ::)
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 13, 2021, 05:24:21 PM
shinji the mary sue  ::)

;) :shh
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 13, 2021, 06:00:14 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/TG3RePGl.jpg)
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: thetylerrob on August 13, 2021, 09:30:46 PM
 :'(

Bye bye all of Evangelion
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 13, 2021, 09:53:02 PM
Man, 3.0+1.0 was so good.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 13, 2021, 10:14:42 PM
I am done.

I am spent.

To say this delivered is the understatement of a lifetime.

I have so much to say but it'll have to come in a future post.

Everything I wanted deep down in my heart but feared to hope for was delivered upon in the absolutely most-perfect package.

∞ / 10
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: team filler on August 13, 2021, 10:17:02 PM
 :rejoice
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 13, 2021, 10:19:53 PM
Man, 3.0+1.0 was so good.

:hesright    × ∞
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 13, 2021, 10:23:07 PM
3.0+1.0 spoilers
Kaworu...

KAWORU!!!!!!! :heartbeat :heartbeat :heartbeat :heartbeat :rejoice :heartbeat :heartbeat :heartbeat :heartbeat
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Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 13, 2021, 10:32:35 PM
serious spoilers
(https://i.imgur.com/p4ZRMaF.png)

My boy!!! My beautiful gray haired beauty is all grown up!!!!
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Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 13, 2021, 10:49:23 PM
I hate these movies,so I'm happy to finally end this whole thing.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: pancakesandsex on August 14, 2021, 03:02:06 AM
General vibe spoilers
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Wasn't what I was expecting but also, when has this series ever been?  I really liked the "set" imagery.  Had more of a 25+26 vibe than an EoE vibe overall.
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Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Bebpo on August 14, 2021, 04:53:35 AM
Oh god this was so bad.

Somehow it's even worse than 3.0. Re-watching the back half of 3.0 before watching this, 3.0 has issues but at least it's pretty well directed still and stylish and the end stuff is interesting.

4.0 is just so.fucking.dull. It's poorly directed, especially if you try to compare it to EoE, and the story is mind-bogglingly uninteresting. What should have been the EoE major exciting shit ended up being the least exciting movie of the 4.

Considering Anno did a good job with Shin Godzilla, it doesn't seem like Anno's lost his touch, but rather that he just buckled under the pressure to finally end Eva and crapped out a shitter of a bland movie.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
The Shinji vs Eva final boss was the worsttttttt
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BLEH, the one bright spot is this doesn't retcon the original series & EoE particularly so we still have those masterpieces and we'll always have 2.0, an extremely good and well directed modern Eva film that setup plenty of potential for Rebuild to go interesting places...and then that never happened. SIGH.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Bebpo on August 14, 2021, 04:55:39 AM
I don't understand how anyone could like this. Did you people also like 3.0?

Why is this movie even 2.5 hours? Why is it a repeat of 3.0 and

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Waste 40 mins of it with Shinji moping again?
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4.0 starts off terrible and dull and it's all downhill from there!
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Bebpo on August 14, 2021, 05:11:35 AM
Apparently this movie is being well received.

I don't get it. This movie makes me want to give up on anime it's so bland. It feels like if you took some random anime directed who directs NARUTO MOVIE #6 and asked him to write & direct a mainstream summer blockbuster conclusion to the Eva franchise.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Bebpo on August 14, 2021, 05:30:41 AM
I will keep harping on the final battle because if you asked me things I would never want to see in Evangelion before this movie I would have said

spoiler (click to show/hide)
A Shinji in Eva 01  vs Evil Final Boss Gendo in Eva Ultimate battle
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sigh, I'm just going to image Rebuild doesn't exist and stick to watching EoE every few years.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: team filler on August 14, 2021, 12:14:29 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/5VurMUy.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: team filler on August 14, 2021, 01:34:00 PM
ep 4 with shinj at the movies watching the couple make out   :heart he's just like me  :rash


misato please look over me and tell me what to do  :uguu
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Bebpo on August 14, 2021, 03:09:14 PM
So after a night's sleep, I feel like I am ok with the concept itself and just disappointed with the execution.

For me Evangelion was never about the story. I love Eva, but couldn't give two shits about Seele or Gendo's plan or anything. It was about the characters and themes executed in a beautiful & at times bombastic style with great music.

My favorite scene in the franchise is the 5 minute theater live action bit in End of Eva. Where does a dream end & reality begin. The music, the direction, the writing. It's just an incredibly beautiful poem about themes of human interaction. And that the major decisions of the main character happen during the poem is even more stylistically perfect.

I don't want to say Eva was always style over substance for me, because the themes it dealt with of loneliness, depression, social anxiety, etc.. have very much substance and it had a lot to say about those themes. But the execution style was a huge part of what made it work.

The robots, the action, the yada yada sci-fi nonsense bullshit... I could toss that all

Eva 3.0+1.0 was really disappointing to me because it was lacking two things: 1) poetic style and 2) characters & themes. It felt like it was more focused on plotting and action set pieces. Mari fucking sucks, Ayanami starts to get character development but then doesn't, Gendo/Asuka are nothing but yada yada infodumps, Misato is horribly underdeveloped in Rebuild, Ritsuko even worse. Basically anything that wasn't Shinji was just paper thin and just plot plot plot or nonsense action.

Without the characters, and since I didn't care about the plot, when the final battle stuff started in the last 30-40 mins, by that point I was ready to just turn the film off because I couldn't bring myself to care about anything going on anymore.

And for my personal tastes, stylistically 3.0+1.0 felt completely off in style from every other entry in the Evangelion franchise. There's like one or two scenes that have some style like the beach, or the opening recap, but it's just so plain it feels very un-Anno and un-Eva.

It also doesn't help that for the first time in an Eva entry they changed the music style. Outside the opening recap there's almost no classic musical, gone are the happy/kiddy songs to violent shit, and instead we get....soft engrish jrock songs that wouldn't feel out of place in a Guilty Gear arcade mode credits roll.

The lack of interesting directorial style, the change in music (classical music was always a large part of Evangelion's identity), the paper thin characters...to me it was just a boring bland movie that was way too long. As much as I didn't like 3.0, I feel like stylistically at least 3.0 is closer to Eva's identity and it's also shorter.


I don't hate 3.0+1.0, it's just feels like a nothing movie and seems a bit sad that after all these years this is how Eva ends. Not with a bang, but a whimper.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 14, 2021, 04:18:50 PM
3.0 is the best of the first three Rebuilds, fight me.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Bebpo on August 14, 2021, 04:21:48 PM
 :doge
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 14, 2021, 05:02:50 PM
And no, not because of the gay piano scene. Although that significantly enhances my personal enjoyment.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 15, 2021, 01:45:10 AM
I pretty much lost interest halfway. These movies just don't feel like Evangelion. They feel like anime nonsense.

Mari pretty much sums up my feelings towards these movies. She's complete garbage. An anime waifu thrown in with no real character, who talks nonsense and says anime girl garbage like "look at my boobs". Feels nothing like a real character.

Evangelion felt real. The characters felt real. Despite the craziness, the plot goes into, they attempted to create some logic to it. Which further makes the characters feel real. Characters felt raw and broken. They didn't seem to be doing things beyond their station, they had relatable reactions and connections to things. They inhabited a world that had an internal logic. Which of course made the situation despite being a giant robot show more dynamic and relatable.

Evangelion doesn't come off as lame mass market anime. In the tv show a character like Rei is presented as strange, cold, and off. The world reacts like she is. It doesn't have cute dumb slice of life anime garbage. It doesn't have anime grandmoms acting like the cute anime girl is cute when she says she has no name. No in the tv show people find her weird, and Ritsuko treats her with disdain knowing whats going on.

The movie has a white base stand-in, an extreme number of robots made despite being a post-apocalypse, and tons of technology made by supposedly limitless resource anime factions. In the tv show they talk about Nerv's budget and how limited the Evangelions are, how much of an undertaking they are. Here millions are thrown at an Evangelion battle ship.

In the show Kaji isn't some Tony Stark dude, he's a fucking intelligence officer with a realistic relationship with a woman he met in college. A woman struggling with being an alcoholic, a job, and being a good person. Not some captain of the last mankind battleship and a super dramatic relationship with her son.

And then it all becomes nonsense that pulls whatever it wants out of its ass.

Garbage. Thats what these movies are.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 15, 2021, 02:15:37 AM
Also honestly this movie is trash. Gendo is a trash character. A bad person. Yes with a reason he turned out that way, but I don't need some nice and tidy sympathy story. A sad backstory and redemption actions feel so cheap and lame. Removing all the bite and honesty
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Bebpo on August 15, 2021, 04:45:51 AM
I pretty much lost interest halfway. These movies just don't feel like Evangelion. They feel like anime nonsense.

Mari pretty much sums up my feelings towards these movies. She's complete garbage. An anime waifu thrown in with no real character, who talks nonsense and says anime girl garbage like "look at my boobs". Feels nothing like a real character.

Evangelion felt real. The characters felt real. Despite the craziness, the plot goes into, they attempted to create some logic to it. Which further makes the characters feel real. Characters felt raw and broken. They didn't seem to be doing things beyond their station, they had relatable reactions and connections to things. They inhabited a world that had an internal logic. Which of course made the situation despite being a giant robot show more dynamic and relatable.

Evangelion doesn't come off as lame mass market anime. In the tv show a character like Rei is presented as strange, cold, and off. The world reacts like she is. It doesn't have cute dumb slice of life anime garbage. It doesn't have anime grandmoms acting like the cute anime girl is cute when she says she has no name. No in the tv show people find her weird, and Ritsuko treats her with disdain knowing whats going on.

The movie has a white base stand-in, an extreme number of robots made despite being a post-apocalypse, and tons of technology made by supposedly limitless resource anime factions. In the tv show they talk about Nerv's budget and how limited the Evangelions are, how much of an undertaking they are. Here millions are thrown at an Evangelion battle ship.

In the show Kaji isn't some Tony Stark dude, he's a fucking intelligence officer with a realistic relationship with a woman he met in college. A woman struggling with being an alcoholic, a job, and being a good person. Not some captain of the last mankind battleship and a super dramatic relationship with her son.

And then it all becomes nonsense that pulls whatever it wants out of its ass.

Garbage. Thats what these movies are.

Very good writeup.

The characters were bad in this while the characters are what made the original.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: pancakesandsex on August 15, 2021, 09:44:43 AM
I'm gonna need another few watches to fully process this, but I liked it overall.  The plot stuff was... alot, but I found it satisfying.  Plot in eva was always a red herring anyway.  The rebuilds are clearly different and don't follow the same rules as the original, but I also think that with this conclusion that the films do not at all stand alone.  They work better when you are already intimately familiar with the tv series and EoE, because they don't exposit as much on the non-shinji cast, and it plays on your expectations by telling a different story with look-alikes and hitting similar bullet points in completely different contexts.

I really liked that the majority of the conflicts between characters were resolved by talking things out.  The discussion between asuka and shinji about why she was so mad in 3.0, and the nature of their relationship in 2.0 and now, was fantastic stuff.  The gendo conflict being unresolvable with violence, etc.  It's a real response to the OG "hedgehog's dillema" version of events, and the takeaway seems to be that it's worth putting yourself out there even if it hurts sometimes, rather than the more cynical worldview that the original runs with until the end (and the worldview that they ascribe to gendo in this iteration). Empathy seems to be a big part of this finale and I also really took to that.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 15, 2021, 01:08:14 PM
https://youtu.be/pWq9eejB8FI

The only take I've been waiting for.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 15, 2021, 02:31:23 PM
You can tell who's mad in this thread that Mari won. Get rekt Asuka and Rei stans, make way for a true queen.  :jeb
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 15, 2021, 03:48:22 PM
I probably need to rewatch these movies and see them as something distinct from the tv show. I am probably too close to the series.

But I don't think Id like them even removed from the tv series. They just seem filled with things I don't like. Characters like Mari and just so many ass pulls that feel like nonsense.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: pancakesandsex on August 15, 2021, 07:52:50 PM
There's an anno doc on amazon too.  It's fascinating.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 16, 2021, 01:41:37 PM
https://twitter.com/selipse4/status/1427027423124725760
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 16, 2021, 01:43:18 PM
https://twitter.com/selipse4/status/1427027423124725760

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyFQVZ2h0V8
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 16, 2021, 01:56:13 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/09JswUw.jpg)
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 16, 2021, 01:57:29 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ZwHPSRc.jpg)
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 17, 2021, 01:26:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXoofxk_1ew
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: team filler on August 17, 2021, 01:31:57 PM
up to ep 9. asuka immediately showing the goods with her first appearance, what a little slut  :rejoice
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 17, 2021, 01:59:16 PM
Each character is a little more fucked up than you realize.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 17, 2021, 02:06:06 PM
so fucked up

spoiler (click to show/hide)
sadly filler will never get this reference because Netflix changed the subtitles for this line in EoE  :'(
[close]
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 17, 2021, 02:57:47 PM
just got through the opening of the first ep  :whew dat was a bop  :rimshot


feel like I heard it before, it's familiar  :thinking

(https://www.pugi.cafe/uploads/db4664/original/2X/5/55685f853992096a9aba86e24d68f253bdabb044.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: team filler on August 17, 2021, 09:08:37 PM
so fucked up

spoiler (click to show/hide)
sadly filler will never get this reference because Netflix changed the subtitles for this line in EoE  :'(
[close]
won't be watching netflix version of eoe  :)
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: pancakesandsex on August 17, 2021, 09:15:09 PM
so fucked up

spoiler (click to show/hide)
sadly filler will never get this reference because Netflix changed the subtitles for this line in EoE  :'(
[close]

I never liked that version of the line.  It was very manga ent.-esque to edge it up like that.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 18, 2021, 12:43:53 AM
https://twitter.com/ShingetsuPT/status/1427609730990608388
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 18, 2021, 11:15:14 AM
so fucked up

spoiler (click to show/hide)
sadly filler will never get this reference because Netflix changed the subtitles for this line in EoE  :'(
[close]

I never liked that version of the line.  It was very manga ent.-esque to edge it up like that.

The 90’s were an xxxtreme time.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: team filler on August 18, 2021, 08:12:44 PM
become a legend, young boy  :lawd
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: team filler on August 18, 2021, 11:28:24 PM
tohji  :mjcry
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 20, 2021, 03:11:50 PM
VICE: Evangelion Fans Are Finally Happy (https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7enqa/evangelion-fans-are-finally-happy)

Gizmodo: The Radical Sincerity of Evangelion's Final End (https://gizmodo.com/the-radical-sincerity-of-evangelions-final-end-1847498562)

The New York Times: ‘Evangelion’ Director Explains How He Finally Found His Ending (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/06/movies/evangelion-hideaki-anno.html)
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 21, 2021, 07:43:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMxN6xRlxic

You don't want to know how many times I've listened to this. This is on the line between omega-cringe and actually-good. Goddamn.

Come, sweet death.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 21, 2021, 11:32:50 PM
I try to act like I don’t miss you

But I know deep down, you are lonely, too

We both never meant to hurt the other

But we did some things we can never undo



(https://i.imgur.com/r8H21pY.gif)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5_p6ZnEfLE  c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5_p6ZnEfLE)
Title: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLM9E02InTQ
Post by: Tasty on August 21, 2021, 11:43:09 PM
It’s only love.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 23, 2021, 12:36:21 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5UaJ0L3HUE

Absolutely loved going through the film again with the Mega64 boys on commentary.



Context: In 2009, Shawn watched the series on Rocco's recommendation, and got pissed when Rocco and Garrett made fun of him missing Kaji's death.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdY80YvH9C8

Trigger warning: f-slur :o



Then Shawn was almost forced to be Shinji in this year's live-action Eva videos (shot in 2020.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H48GPv4BZI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wZnsWjJ6Qw



Now it's full circle with Shawn watching 3.0+1.0. I also picked up a lot of new info on this rewatch, as Rocco and Garrett are Eva superfans.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 25, 2021, 11:43:05 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/V41EJDd.jpg)
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 29, 2021, 12:48:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjdHHGBJQNg

Damn this should've been in the movie. :o Somewhere in the credits at least.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 29, 2021, 12:39:07 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/OjvRkaS.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/qOkCmEf.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/j7dXKwd.jpg)

Bye bye, all of Evangelion.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 29, 2021, 01:42:09 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/NickDesideri/status/1431688035863867398

 :science
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: team filler on August 30, 2021, 01:09:08 AM
spoilers  :stahp
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on August 30, 2021, 08:26:35 AM
spoilers  :stahp

Sorry! They don't affect the plot and you'll probably forget all about those three pics by the time you even get to that movie. :P
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 01, 2021, 08:48:17 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QtorATw7YM

This was in my youtube recommendations for some reason.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: team filler on September 04, 2021, 09:01:43 PM
asuka  :stahp why is end credits halfway through movie  ???
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: team filler on September 04, 2021, 10:14:23 PM
that was it?  :foxx


what do I watch next  ???
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on September 05, 2021, 01:38:10 AM
asuka  :stahp why is end credits halfway through movie  ???

It was produced as two "episodes" corresponding to Episode 25 and 26 of the show.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: team filler on September 05, 2021, 07:13:23 PM
does the story continue?
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on September 06, 2021, 08:13:02 PM
does the story continue?

The four Rebuild movies are kind of a reboot. End of Eva is the finale for the original continuity.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: team filler on September 06, 2021, 09:07:07 PM
hoping the reboots are better, this show was a mess  :snob
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on September 06, 2021, 11:19:47 PM
I like them. :)
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: BrokenVerses on September 08, 2021, 02:49:24 AM
hoping the reboots are better, this show was a mess  :snob

Eh.

 :lol
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on September 08, 2021, 02:55:50 AM
Rebuilds are more streamlined and less "messy", IMO.
Title: Re: The Second Impact. BEZOS and the Last Angel. It's exactly like 15 years ago.
Post by: Tasty on September 18, 2021, 11:06:44 PM
Evangelion 3.0+1.0 Wouldn't Work Without Its Quiet, Contemplative Opening (https://gizmodo.com/evangelion-3-0-1-0-wouldnt-work-without-its-quiet-cont-1847646302)