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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Himu on August 25, 2021, 02:35:52 PM

Title: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Himu on August 25, 2021, 02:35:52 PM
:hyper :hyper :hyper :hyper

https://saintsrow.com/

Looks gewd :3 Especially after the tone of SRIV!
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Post by: Human Snorenado on August 25, 2021, 02:47:42 PM
Looks dope, apparently epic exclusive on release on pc tho

 :shaq2
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Post by: Bebpo on August 25, 2021, 03:27:58 PM
4 was super forgettable and I skipped 5, but both suffered by being low budget re-uses of SR3's city.

Saint Row Vegas with a new and unique city map sounds hot again. Excited for sure.
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Post by: Don Rumata on August 25, 2021, 03:31:32 PM
Looks good, characters look bland compared to the old games, maybe because they're meant to be player characters.
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Post by: Don Rumata on August 25, 2021, 03:32:05 PM
4 was super forgettable and I skipped 5, but both suffered by being low budget re-uses of SR3's city.

Saint Row Vegas with a new and unique city map sounds hot again. Excited for sure.
There is no 5.
You mean Agents of Mayhem?  ???
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Post by: Human Snorenado on August 25, 2021, 03:39:14 PM
4 was super forgettable and I skipped 5, but both suffered by being low budget re-uses of SR3's city.

Saint Row Vegas with a new and unique city map sounds hot again. Excited for sure.
There is no 5.
You mean Agents of Mayhem?  ???

Probably means Gat out of Hell

I enjoyed IV and Gat ouf of Hell, map reuse aside.

:yeshrug
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Post by: Great Rumbler on August 25, 2021, 04:13:48 PM
Trailer looked garbo. :mjcry
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Post by: Bebpo on August 25, 2021, 04:19:16 PM
4 was super forgettable and I skipped 5, but both suffered by being low budget re-uses of SR3's city.

Saint Row Vegas with a new and unique city map sounds hot again. Excited for sure.
There is no 5.
You mean Agents of Mayhem?  ???

I think Gat out of Hell is titled 5?
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Post by: Don Rumata on August 25, 2021, 04:54:16 PM
Oh i thought it was an expansion.


Anyway i'm happy they decided to tone it back down to SR2-3 levels, even if, as i said, the characters look kind of bland so far.
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Post by: Raist on August 25, 2021, 05:57:34 PM
Looks good? What?


I thought we were done with 5mins long CGI trailers :snore
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Post by: bork on August 25, 2021, 06:00:06 PM
Looks good? What?


I thought we were done with 5mins long CGI trailers :snore

Yeah- nothing to react to here.

:ryker
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Post by: Don Rumata on August 25, 2021, 06:02:42 PM
There was a snippet/montage of gameplay footage in the event, i meant that.
Looked like SR3 kind of.
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Post by: Bebpo on August 25, 2021, 06:05:19 PM
Looks good? What?


I thought we were done with 5mins long CGI trailers :snore

Yeah- nothing to react to here.

:ryker

Ehh, it's enough to see that location-wise it's a new city with a vegas/desert theme which is exciting after a decade of the same damn city from SR3.
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Post by: Don Rumata on August 25, 2021, 06:16:19 PM
https://youtu.be/4Z-nJpLoJ8A

Here's the gameplay i mentioned.
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Post by: benjipwns on August 25, 2021, 06:33:09 PM
looks like saints row :success
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Post by: MMaRsu on August 25, 2021, 07:38:40 PM
woke saints

https://clips.twitch.tv/LaconicMistyNuggetsCopyThis-yn-SpJFwMJLPo7vF
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Post by: Himu on August 25, 2021, 10:06:18 PM
Looks good? What?


I thought we were done with 5mins long CGI trailers :snore

Because it's Saints Row and I love Saints Row and it has been almost TEN FUCKING GODDAMN YEARS SINCE GTAV and I'm so thirsty for a traditional sandbox game with GANGS and mayhem that this was like a cool glass of water in a fucking dessert covered in SHIT.
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Post by: pilonv1 on August 25, 2021, 10:52:09 PM
Looks good, but more like 3 than the first two. The second one was probably the best mix of tone out of the three.

I miss Stillwater.

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Post by: Himu on August 25, 2021, 10:55:28 PM
This feels like a mix of 2/3 so I'm satisfied.
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Post by: pilonv1 on August 25, 2021, 11:05:45 PM
Agreed, better than being like 3/4.
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Post by: Borealis on August 25, 2021, 11:18:53 PM
I'm liking the details about the game itself, but that CGI trailer leaves such a bad impression.

Get some gameplay footage out asap.
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Post by: benjipwns on August 26, 2021, 01:26:25 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5E91g_IB3A
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Post by: Raist on August 26, 2021, 01:28:57 AM
Looks good? What?


I thought we were done with 5mins long CGI trailers :snore

Because it's Saints Row and I love Saints Row and it has been almost TEN FUCKING GODDAMN YEARS SINCE GTAV and I'm so thirsty for a traditional sandbox game with GANGS and mayhem that this was like a cool glass of water in a fucking dessert covered in SHIT.


Fair enough
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 26, 2021, 01:50:46 AM
I think it looks kind of lame honestly. Boring Fortnite mobile game nondescript cartoony look. It's a look whose inspirations inspire no character.

That said, I think it's neat its a complete reboot and not in Stilwater. It's been such a long time since we've had an urban city open-world game, I'd be down for anything. So them talking about the city and how it has all these districts is a good sign. By 4 with all the super powers and whatnot, it kind of felt like the city part of the open world was less important. So I'll keep an open eye.
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Post by: Don Rumata on August 26, 2021, 02:49:44 AM
woke saints

https://clips.twitch.tv/LaconicMistyNuggetsCopyThis-yn-SpJFwMJLPo7vF
Enough with the fucking Johnny Gat thing, they already ran that into the ground years ago.
Although her description of the new characters really sounds ghastly (a guy who loves to cook and one who loves podcasts? The fuck?)
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Post by: MMaRsu on August 26, 2021, 03:10:09 AM
woke saints

https://clips.twitch.tv/LaconicMistyNuggetsCopyThis-yn-SpJFwMJLPo7vF
Enough with the fucking Johnny Gat thing, they already ran that into the ground years ago.
Although her description of the new characters really sounds ghastly (a guy who loves to cook and one who loves podcasts? The fuck?)

Really dont give a fuck about Gat, but the new characters sound like the worst ever.

You have a girl who's really into cooking (??)
A guy who loves podcasts
Nina is a muscle badass who loves driving in her car (??)

Wtf is with Volition
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Post by: Don Rumata on August 26, 2021, 03:42:30 AM
Yeah, i'm not into a panic about "muh wokeness", but it does feel like it's impossible to do comedy when you have to walk on so many eggshells.
I hope they can find some release from that, because so far that's the side that's absolutely lacking, even in the cgi trailer, there's just zero comedy.
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Post by: Svejk on August 26, 2021, 07:19:20 AM
No dildo swords, No deal.
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Post by: who is ted danson? on August 26, 2021, 07:58:31 AM
(https://i.redd.it/mnrf0q2e5lj71.png)

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintsRow/comments/pbms2y/be_real_could_you_tell_the_difference/

Bonus: https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintsRow/comments/pbwqlp/this_is_how_saints_row_logo_should_look/
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Post by: Don Rumata on August 26, 2021, 08:19:24 AM
Yeah that hits the spot, tbh.
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Post by: MMaRsu on August 26, 2021, 08:27:53 AM
Also lets be honest Agents of Mayhem wasnt that good either. Do they even have it in them to make a good game? It seems to me like Saints 1 and 2 were the sweet spots.

SR3 was ok and SR4 had some fun stuff but eh
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Post by: who is ted danson? on August 26, 2021, 09:42:22 AM
I never played SR1, but I would like to check it out if I pick up an XSX or whatever in the future (I think it is BC enhanced right?)

SR2 I played for about 5 hours but the PC port was just too fucked up. Maybe it was paranoia, but I legit thought it was melting my PSU. Never had bad smells coming out of my PC like that before. Seemed like there was a good game there though. (RIP IdolNinja  :().

SR3 was really fun, don't have any complaints

SR4 I got bored after 5 hours or so. It felt like a SR3 DLC.

Agents of Mayhem always looked like a weak Crackdown. But maybe its actually OK considering CD3 was rubbish?

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Post by: Don Rumata on August 26, 2021, 12:09:29 PM
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The developers say that Saints Row’s focus is, at least early in the game, going to focus on the material concerns of its young crew. These disaffected millennials turn to crime to, for instance, put food on their table, feel part of a community and pay off their student loans. Chief creative officer Jim Boone says that it’s, broadly, a “contemporary” millennial “power fantasy.” It’s only later that the game’s focus switches to the sort of empire-building that, in the previous series, eventually saw your character becoming president.
https://www.engadget.com/saints-row-reboot-2022-200040315.html

 :iface

Is that in between me spraying old ladies with feces, and pimp slapping hookers?
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Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 26, 2021, 12:12:44 PM
this is a definite wait and see for me, it has so much potential to be terrible  :doge

who's publishing it? the last few volition efforts have looked low budget and shitty imo
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Post by: Nintex on August 26, 2021, 12:55:12 PM
Woke Row  :neogaf
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Post by: Svejk on August 26, 2021, 01:06:06 PM
Pour one out for The Row

(https://media4.giphy.com/media/3S04b09ljsDeg/giphy.gif)

Volition should just be bought up by the MS Hospice at this point.
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Post by: Don Rumata on August 26, 2021, 01:26:55 PM
I wanna stay positive, because the few shots of gameplay looked like a fun GTA clone, but in terms of style, things look pretty grim so far.  :beli

Like those 4 "main characters" look like what you can create in the THPS3 character creator, they paid a character designer to come up with those?  :-\
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Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 26, 2021, 01:34:06 PM
I suppose there's scope for it to be funny if they lampoon woke people, q distinguisheds and the overall nonsense of the modern day world, but then you run the risk of upsetting the soyboy betacucks in the games media and there being an agenda against your game :thinking
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Post by: Great Rumbler on August 26, 2021, 03:22:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frQiAQSO5Qc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxQsCNontmI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M16rJw-H3Gg

:rejoice
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Post by: Don Rumata on August 26, 2021, 03:52:33 PM
I suppose there's scope for it to be funny if they lampoon woke people, q distinguisheds and the overall nonsense of the modern day world, but then you run the risk of upsetting the soyboy betacucks in the games media and there being an agenda against your game :thinking
I dunno, that type off satire is already stale in a way, because it's all you find on the internet, alt-right v woke, essentially.
Maybe why SR2 was the funniest, it had the "dumbest", less snarky kind of humor, and it felt more genuine, it straddled the line between serious and dumb well enough to make you think they were serious about it, which is the only way to be funny with that kind of material.

In other words, The Room is funny because it's trying to be serious, a The Room 2 where they embrace its mockery/legacy would be a piece of shit.
But Saint's Row never had biting commentary, it was toilet humor and references anyway.
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Post by: paprikastaude on August 26, 2021, 03:52:50 PM
Saints Row 3 remake free on EGS  :pimp
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Post by: porkbun on August 26, 2021, 04:39:36 PM
The protagonists are blah but if this is a move back away from the superhero/sci-fi stuff and it's set in "Las Vegas", I'm down. 
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Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 26, 2021, 05:29:16 PM
I suppose there's scope for it to be funny if they lampoon woke people, q distinguisheds and the overall nonsense of the modern day world, but then you run the risk of upsetting the soyboy betacucks in the games media and there being an agenda against your game :thinking
I dunno, that type off satire is already stale in a way, because it's all you find on the internet, alt-right v woke, essentially.
Maybe why SR2 was the funniest, it had the "dumbest", less snarky kind of humor, and it felt more genuine, it straddled the line between serious and dumb well enough to make you think they were serious about it, which is the only way to be funny with that kind of material.

In other words, The Room is funny because it's trying to be serious, a The Room 2 where they embrace its mockery/legacy would be a piece of shit.
But Saint's Row never had biting commentary, it was toilet humor and references anyway.

it's also possible that we're all being dick heads for reading way too much into a shitty CGI trailer :trumps
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Post by: Nintex on August 26, 2021, 06:21:57 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9tDkNxWQAAqXLM?format=jpg)

 :-X

(https://www.heypoorplayer.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/saints-row-the-third-remastered.jpg)

 :playa

They don't even carry guns on cuck row :titus
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Post by: BIONIC on August 26, 2021, 06:41:13 PM
They got motherfucking woke Urkel up in here :gladbron
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Post by: Svejk on August 26, 2021, 10:33:20 PM
You can only make a good first impression once.  :trumps  Keeping expectations tempered for now.
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Post by: Himu on August 26, 2021, 11:10:33 PM
i saw lots of guns and mayhem in the trailer stop being a biaaatch
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Post by: Svejk on August 26, 2021, 11:58:02 PM
Well, when they're saying stuff like this (https://www.google.com/amp/s/gamerant.com/new-saints-row-going-blow-roof-off-says-community-dev/amp/), can't say the brief gameplay snippets were achieving that feeling.

I know I'm dogging on it allot with too much still unknown, but the absurdity bar was raised so damn high with 3 and 4 it's hard not to feel a bit taken back by what they've shown so far.
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Post by: Don Rumata on August 27, 2021, 05:00:46 AM
The absurdity bar being lowered back down is good, 4 was already stupidly out of touch with what made the series funny in the first place.
Doesn't excuse the complete lack of character though.

But again, i want to stay positive because the gameplay snippets looked nice, and they haven't shown much yet.
Usually a CGi trailer should at least sell a sense of style though, and it's not oozing much of it atm.
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Post by: MMaRsu on August 27, 2021, 05:32:44 AM
Its just looking like hot kaka
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Post by: Don Rumata on August 27, 2021, 06:49:03 AM
Now that i think about it, it looks like a Watch Dogs, tbh.
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Post by: Nintex on August 27, 2021, 08:52:08 AM
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The trailer on the PlayStation and Xbox channels are currently 50% and 54% positive respectively, while the one on the Saints Row channel is only 39% positive, suggesting the Saints Row fanbase is less encouraged by the reboot than the general video game community is.

Despite this, developer Volition has made it clear that it isn't going to change the vision it has for the game based on the initial reaction to the trailer.

After responding to a follower with a gif saying "haters gonna hate" and being told it was letting down the fanbase, the official Saints Row Twitter account replied: "We are not backing down on this game. We get it, it's new and it's a shock reaction to a reboot like no other."

https://twitter.com/SaintsRow/status/1431033051463786506 (https://twitter.com/SaintsRow/status/1431033051463786506)

https://twitter.com/SaintsRow/status/1431031828840960000 (https://twitter.com/SaintsRow/status/1431031828840960000)

 :holeup
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Post by: Don Rumata on August 27, 2021, 09:46:04 AM
I mean changing direction now is impossible anyway, so that makes sense.
They haven't shown anything yet, so gamers panicking early as usual.

I don't think their social media "attitude" is really landing tho.
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Post by: Tasty on August 27, 2021, 09:53:45 AM
I mean, SSX Deadly Descents apparently* turned out OK despite a massively-negative initial trailer and similar "We're changing the series almost 180 style-wise from the other games" vibes.

*what I heard
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Post by: Don Rumata on August 27, 2021, 10:01:52 AM
I mean, SSX Deadly Descents apparently* turned out OK despite a massively-negative initial trailer and similar "We're changing the series almost 180 style-wise from the other games" vibes.

*what I heard
Yes and no.
It was an alright game in its own right.
It had nothing of what made SSX, SSX. So if you were a fan (i wasn't so whatever) it really didn't deliver on that.

A bit like Rainbow Six Siege you could say, it's a good competitive shooter, but if you liked the Red Storm Rainbow Six games, it really had nothing to offer you.

This one seems closer in general design, just the humor and style seem different, so even if you hate the style, you'll probably be able to somewhat enjoy the open world gameplay.
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Post by: Svejk on August 27, 2021, 10:28:02 AM
https://youtu.be/iDr4l1DdRCU

I'll be honest, I am slowly come back around.... but that release date though... :doge
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Post by: Don Rumata on August 27, 2021, 10:47:48 AM
Pretty much confirms my first impressions, so far.
The game looks pretty nice, curious about the customization, the cast of the main 4 characters looks painfully bland and boring, like a watered down Watch Dogs (which is saying something).
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Post by: Boredfrom on August 27, 2021, 11:45:13 AM
I dislike the trailer and I doubt this will attract the fortnite kids, but being honest this has always being what Saints Row was to me: juvenile trend jumper.

Saints Row 3 and 4 are my sweet spots, but I couldn’t never get into 1 because was trying to hard to be an edgier GTA clone (never play  2, seems to be a favorite of many other people). 3 was made in the right time to blow up as it did while 4 was during the beginning of the superhero craze.
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Post by: Don Rumata on August 27, 2021, 11:52:30 AM
3 had the best gameplay overall, quite polished, but 2 is still the best one, in that it really nailed that balance between trying to be a GTA clone and trying to be crazy/funny.
Also the amount of customization in it was the most fun.

3 and 4 were too "self aware" for my taste, and 1 just played it straight.
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Post by: Human Snorenado on August 27, 2021, 12:23:08 PM
I think the fact that different people have different favorite entries in the series (I'm actually with boredfrom in that I enjoyed 3 and 4 the most, I *liked* dialing the absurdity up to 11 and the gameplay in 4 where you have super powers in the matrix is my favorite) just kind of shows that if they do the reboot well, it'll be fine. I have enjoyed all the games in the series, I dunno why y'all fuckers gotta fight over dumb shit. If they put out a crappy game, we'll know when we play it, but for my money they haven't yet.

A 15 YEAR OLD SERIES WITH 4 MAIN ENTRIES HAS INSPIRED DIFFERENT REACTIONS IN DIFFERENT PEOPLE, NEWS AT 11
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Post by: Great Rumbler on August 27, 2021, 12:52:39 PM
I think the fact that different people have different favorite entries in the series (I'm actually with boredfrom in that I enjoyed 3 and 4 the most, I *liked* dialing the absurdity up to 11 and the gameplay in 4 where you have super powers in the matrix is my favorite) just kind of shows that if they do the reboot well, it'll be fine. I have enjoyed all the games in the series, I dunno why y'all fuckers gotta fight over dumb shit. If they put out a crappy game, we'll know when we play it, but for my money they haven't yet.

I'm fine with them doing a reboot, as 4 really felt like it took the absurdity as far as it could go. I'm just not really sold on what the reboot has decided to be. Maybe I'll be proven wrong as the game ends up being really fun, though.
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Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 27, 2021, 01:07:01 PM
main problem with 4 imo was them stretching out what should have been dlc into a full game, i wasn't mad at it basically becoming crackdown, it should have just been a 5-8 hour thing that cost £15 ;)
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Post by: Himu on August 27, 2021, 01:10:30 PM
Well, when they're saying stuff like this (https://www.google.com/amp/s/gamerant.com/new-saints-row-going-blow-roof-off-says-community-dev/amp/), can't say the brief gameplay snippets were achieving that feeling.

I know I'm dogging on it allot with too much still unknown, but the absurdity bar was raised so damn high with 3 and 4 it's hard not to feel a bit taken back by what they've shown so far.

Thank God it was lowered back down.
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Post by: Himu on August 27, 2021, 01:42:19 PM
"KEEP WOKENESS OUT OF SAINTS ROW" says the person who has only played 3 and 4, while neglecting 2, a game about gentrification and corporate colonization of culture. A game where, the previous Saints hideout was turned into a memorial to represent anti-gang sentiment. Saints Row has always had politics hidden in the background behind the zaniness.

It's okay if you haven't played 2, but the please be aware that the Saints franchise is all over the map and your idea of what it is and represents doesn't necessarily mean it's the only interpretation.

I mean, SSX Deadly Descents apparently* turned out OK despite a massively-negative initial trailer and similar "We're changing the series almost 180 style-wise from the other games" vibes.

*what I heard
Yes and no.
It was an alright game in its own right.
It had nothing of what made SSX, SSX. So if you were a fan (i wasn't so whatever) it really didn't deliver on that.

A bit like Rainbow Six Siege you could say, it's a good competitive shooter, but if you liked the Red Storm Rainbow Six games, it really had nothing to offer you.

This one seems closer in general design, just the humor and style seem different, so even if you hate the style, you'll probably be able to somewhat enjoy the open world gameplay.

Well my argument I've always made is that Saints Row IV is a Flanderization of the franchise. You say the new SSX wasn't what made it SSX, but SRIV betrayed so much of what I liked about Saints Row it to this day remains the only game in the franchise I have never completed. Turning a gang crime franchise into one with super powers. Gag.

So things go full circle. One man's shit is another man's treasure.
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Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on August 27, 2021, 01:50:56 PM
"KEEP WOKENESS OUT OF SAINTS ROW" says the person who has only played 3 and 4, while neglecting 2, a game about gentrification and corporate colonization of culture. A game where, the previous Saints hideout was turned into a memorial to represent anti-gang sentiment. Saints Row has always had politics hidden in the background behind the zaniness.

I agree with this, except this new edition literally looks like you are playing as millennial corporate influencer gentrifiers #squadgoals #relatable
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Post by: mormapope on August 27, 2021, 01:51:24 PM
Tone is less of an issue versus Volition's track record since SRIV. Gat Out of Hell and Agents of Mayhem were both super mediocre games, the best thing since Saints Row IV (2013) and now has been a remaster of Saints Row 3.

"We're returning to our roots guys" is empty sentiment if you haven't released a great game in 8 years. I'm expecting a serviceable GTA clone but nothing as good as SR2 or 3, especially 2.
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Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on August 27, 2021, 01:53:37 PM
also, good fucking luck with this if we're getting Vice City and San Andreas in the GTAV engine next year
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Post by: Himu on August 27, 2021, 01:58:11 PM
I watched the preview linked on last page and I'm falling into my knees in ectasy. Finally grounded yet insane Row is back. This is very SR2 esque, where the characters have their own things and passions. A big problem with characterization started in 3 where it became far more Boss oriented and characters like Shaundi were kind of changed in a weird way or the enemy gangs are barely characterized. Again, flanderization.

This looks back to basics in a lot of ways with the gameplay of 3 and the story/tone of 2. Strap me in.
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Post by: mormapope on August 27, 2021, 01:58:31 PM
Saints Row in general has been a franchise that's been graced with miraculous luck and a lot of thoughtful repurposing. THQ being a shaky publisher on the verge of not existing meant Saints Row as a franchise being about reusing assets and adding new gameplay ideas consistently.

Which is what classic PS2 GTAs did minus having a shaky publisher. Reuse assets or repurpose assets, add everything you can to the games.

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Post by: Himu on August 27, 2021, 01:59:30 PM
"KEEP WOKENESS OUT OF SAINTS ROW" says the person who has only played 3 and 4, while neglecting 2, a game about gentrification and corporate colonization of culture. A game where, the previous Saints hideout was turned into a memorial to represent anti-gang sentiment. Saints Row has always had politics hidden in the background behind the zaniness.

I agree with this, except this new edition literally looks like you are playing as millennial corporate influencer gentrifiers #squadgoals #relatable

I'm not seeing it besides their fashion. It's what's in. Who cares. It's Saints Row. I'm pretty sure they're customizable.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Don Rumata on August 27, 2021, 02:19:09 PM
"KEEP WOKENESS OUT OF SAINTS ROW" says the person who has only played 3 and 4, while neglecting 2, a game about gentrification and corporate colonization of culture. A game where, the previous Saints hideout was turned into a memorial to represent anti-gang sentiment. Saints Row has always had politics hidden in the background behind the zaniness.

It's okay if you haven't played 2, but the please be aware that the Saints franchise is all over the map and your idea of what it is and represents doesn't necessarily mean it's the only interpretation.
Political satire is another thing SR just copied wholesale from GTA tbh.
Their political radio shows were basically those from GTA copy pasted in.

I mean, SSX Deadly Descents apparently* turned out OK despite a massively-negative initial trailer and similar "We're changing the series almost 180 style-wise from the other games" vibes.

*what I heard
Yes and no.
It was an alright game in its own right.
It had nothing of what made SSX, SSX. So if you were a fan (i wasn't so whatever) it really didn't deliver on that.

A bit like Rainbow Six Siege you could say, it's a good competitive shooter, but if you liked the Red Storm Rainbow Six games, it really had nothing to offer you.

This one seems closer in general design, just the humor and style seem different, so even if you hate the style, you'll probably be able to somewhat enjoy the open world gameplay.

Well my argument I've always made is that Saints Row IV is a Flanderization of the franchise. You say the new SSX wasn't what made it SSX, but SRIV betrayed so much of what I liked about Saints Row it to this day remains the only game in the franchise I have never completed. Turning a gang crime franchise into one with super powers. Gag.

So things go full circle. One man's shit is another man's treasure.
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Yeah but did i argue in favor of SR4? You're saying the same thing i'm saying, that the series gradually lost the plot with each subsequent entry, and needed to be toned down.
Although this new one seems more in the tone of 3, than 2.
2 out of 3 enemy factions aren't even rival gangs (kind of like SR3/4, where the gang thing was basically gone).

Although i agree with MormaPope about the series in general being graced with good luck, all in all they were mediocre games, saved by charm.
If you remove that charm, they'll have a very hard time getting by, but then again GTA is MIA and there is little to no competition in the genre nowadays.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Himu on August 27, 2021, 02:21:15 PM
"Although i agree with MormaPope about the series in general being graced with good luck, all in all they were mediocre games, saved by charm."

Saints Row 2 is imo the best sandbox game of all time. Fuck off.

Saints Row's political satire is nothing like GTA's. What an odd comment.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Don Rumata on August 27, 2021, 02:24:09 PM
"Although i agree with MormaPope about the series in general being graced with good luck, all in all they were mediocre games, saved by charm."

Saints Row 2 is imo the best sandbox game of all time. Fuck off.
I think it's the pinnacle of the series overall, but i think it's still janky as shit, and mostly good because it's-got-a-lot-of-heart kind of thing.
But it has a lot of creativity though, not denying that.
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Saints Row's political satire is nothing like GTA's. What an odd comment.
https://youtu.be/ZG671qS85zU
This could be straight out of a GTA.

But then it got increasingly about references and slapstick obviously SR is much more comedic than GTA.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Himu on August 27, 2021, 02:27:18 PM
"Although i agree with MormaPope about the series in general being graced with good luck, all in all they were mediocre games, saved by charm."

Saints Row 2 is imo the best sandbox game of all time. Fuck off.
I think it's the pinnacle of the series overall, but i think it's still janky as shit, and mostly good because it's-got-a-lot-of-heart kind of thing.
But it has a lot of creativity though, not denying that.

Saints Row 3 isn't nowhere as good as 2, but it's still pretty fucking good. I won't mention the abortion that is IV. SR1 is better than GTAIV.

Who cares about jank and why does it make a game lesser exactly? Going by that argument GTAIII, VC, and SA aren't great games. I can still play and love GTAIII on the PS2.

"Although i agree with MormaPope about the series in general being graced with good luck, all in all they were mediocre games, saved by charm."

Saints Row 2 is imo the best sandbox game of all time. Fuck off.
I think it's the pinnacle of the series overall, but i think it's still janky as shit, and mostly good because it's-got-a-lot-of-heart kind of thing.
But it has a lot of creativity though, not denying that.
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Saints Row's political satire is nothing like GTA's. What an odd comment.
https://youtu.be/ZG671qS85zU
This could be straight out of a GTA.

But then it got increasingly about references and slapstick obviously SR is much more comedic than GTA.

You're having this off of 1, which is the only game in the franchise that unabashedly is a complete unashamed GTA clone? Lol. Ok..
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on August 27, 2021, 02:32:46 PM
I think my wording of absurdity was taken wrong (or a poor choice of words on my part)... What I'm implying is the insane amount of customization that was allowed.  In SRIII, Can you own a tank? Yes.. Can you paint it and decorate it?  Yes... kind of.   Doing and wearing whatever you want; whether it be goofy or serious, that's what made me love what it became.   THAT's what I want to be "absurd"... the amount of customization.  I want it to be so saturated with content and customization options... Let me wear 3 shirts over each other.. Let me adjust the level my pants sag... let me choose the design on the rims I put on my vehicle. Let me design the tatoos.. Let me choose what type of gun attachments I want on my tank or helicopter... Let me choose what sunglasses to wear with what hat I'm wearing and how I wear it... Let me choose what type of muscle tone or jiggle my character has when walking...  Let me choose a variety of idle animations and posture...  I want them to "Blow the roof Off" in that aspect.... but they have yet to show that... If it's in there, they should've showed snippets of that in the gameplay too, imo. 

I wasn't implying; "Let's go beyond space and aliens and start doing time travel and go full Bill & Ted!!" type shit.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Don Rumata on August 27, 2021, 02:35:48 PM
Why is jank bad and why does jank mean mediocre? How can you possibly reconcile "pentacle of the genre" and "these games are mediocre?"

Saints Row 3 isn't nowhere as good as 2, but it's still pretty fucking good. I won't mention the abortion that is IV. SR1 is better than GTAIV.

Who cares about jank and why does it make a game lesser exactly?
Because in a game, jank means things like bad animations, shoddy physics, unpolished controls, etc.
I like plenty of janky games, but i like them in spite of the jank.
The only thing i'll concede is that jank can grant a level of charm, which as i said, SR played off of well.

Also "pinnacle of the genre" is something you said, and i think it's bullshit, so that's how i reconcile it.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Himu on August 27, 2021, 02:37:27 PM
I think my wording of absurdity was taken wrong (or a poor choice of words on my part)... What I'm implying is the insane amount of customization that was allowed.  In SRIII, Can you own a tank? Yes.. Can you paint it and decorate it?  Yes... kind of.   Doing and wearing whatever you want; whether it be goofy or serious, that's what made me love what it became.   THAT's what I want to be "absurd"... the amount of customization.  I want it to be so saturated with content and customization options... Let me wear 3 shirts over each other.. Let me adjust the level my pants sag... let me choose the design on the rims I put on my vehicle. Let me design the tatoos.. Let me choose what type of gun attachments I want on my tank or helicopter... Let me choose what sunglasses to wear with what hat I'm wearing and how I wear it... Let me choose what type of muscle tone or jiggle my character has when walking...  Let me choose a variety of idle animations and posture...  I want them to "Blow the roof Off" in that aspect.... but they have yet to show that... If it's in there, they should've showed snippets of that in the gameplay too, imo. 

I wasn't implying; "Let's go beyond space and aliens and start doing time travel and go full Bill & Ted!!" type shit.

In the video posted last page they tease at the customization and it looks like a doozey.

Speaking of customization. We can't have a Saints thread without our beautiful fellow Boreans classic video.

https://youtu.be/Oa2jLp-sqzI

:bow
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Himu on August 27, 2021, 02:38:42 PM
Why is jank bad and why does jank mean mediocre? How can you possibly reconcile "pentacle of the genre" and "these games are mediocre?"

Saints Row 3 isn't nowhere as good as 2, but it's still pretty fucking good. I won't mention the abortion that is IV. SR1 is better than GTAIV.

Who cares about jank and why does it make a game lesser exactly?
Because in a game, jank means things like bad animations, shoddy physics, unpolished controls, etc.
I like plenty of janky games, but i like them in spite of the jank.
The only thing i'll concede is that jank can grant a level of charm, which as i said, SR played off of well.

Also "pinnacle of the genre" is something you said, and i think it's bullshit, so that's how i reconcile it.

Read my edit. Is GTAIII not a classic because it has "jank"?
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Don Rumata on August 27, 2021, 02:46:24 PM
Why is jank bad and why does jank mean mediocre? How can you possibly reconcile "pentacle of the genre" and "these games are mediocre?"

Saints Row 3 isn't nowhere as good as 2, but it's still pretty fucking good. I won't mention the abortion that is IV. SR1 is better than GTAIV.

Who cares about jank and why does it make a game lesser exactly?
Because in a game, jank means things like bad animations, shoddy physics, unpolished controls, etc.
I like plenty of janky games, but i like them in spite of the jank.
The only thing i'll concede is that jank can grant a level of charm, which as i said, SR played off of well.

Also "pinnacle of the genre" is something you said, and i think it's bullshit, so that's how i reconcile it.

Read my edit. Is GTAIII not a classic because it has "jank"?
I don't get what you mean.
A game can be good, or even a classic, even with jank. I never disputed this?
I'm saying Saint's Row, in my opinion, was never a masterpiece, 2 was what got closer, but i still wouldn't call it that.
You can have jank and be a masterpiece (and vice versa, plenty of super polished turds out there), but you have to bring something to make up for it, and i don't think SR ever did enough to do that, despite, again, loving it.

If you think it's the best sandbox ever made i'm not trying to change your mind, i dunno how you expect me to prove to you a subjective statement, to be honest.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Himu on August 27, 2021, 02:48:31 PM
It's fine that you don't like them. My main criticism is the idea that because a game has jank in it that it's mediocre which you labeled the Saints franchise. You said the Saints franchise is nothing without charm, something I completely disagree with wholesale.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Don Rumata on August 27, 2021, 03:01:40 PM
I like them, i don't think they're amazing games (except maybe 2, but again, i probably wouldn't call it a masterpiece).
Jank is only one part of the puzzle though, there's many games that have jank that i would consider amazing.

That said, i haven't played 2 in years, was waiting for the patch, so maybe i could change my mind replaying it.

I think SR1 was kind of mediocre when it came out and aged terribly.
And i think SR3 was the most polished one, but missed much of the fun things from SR2 and started to go too self aware losing its charm.
Then SR4 was basically a glorified expansion that went completely off the rails and really felt stretched thin, too.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on August 27, 2021, 03:01:40 PM
I can kind of understand the position that SR2 is 'the best' due to it being a bit more tonally restrained than 3, despite all of the mechanical improvements 3 brought, but I can't understand holding that perspective then watching the below trailer and going FUCK YEAH FINALLY BACK TO THE SERIES ROOTS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gdGxjdm6yE
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: porkbun on August 27, 2021, 03:16:46 PM
SR2 is my favorite open world game from the PS3/360 generation, except for maybe The Lost and Damned and Sleeping Dogs.  The graphics were already dated, the soundtrack is good but way too limited (I seriously never want to hear fucking Paramore ever again), the story is garbage, the acting is meh, but good fucking lord the game is just really fucking fun.  I played through it several times - do the pimping side mission to get the dual uzis with unlimited ammo and just go to town for the rest of the game.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Boredfrom on August 27, 2021, 04:13:15 PM
I think the fact that different people have different favorite entries in the series (I'm actually with boredfrom in that I enjoyed 3 and 4 the most, I *liked* dialing the absurdity up to 11 and the gameplay in 4 where you have super powers in the matrix is my favorite) just kind of shows that if they do the reboot well, it'll be fine. I have enjoyed all the games in the series, I dunno why y'all fuckers gotta fight over dumb shit. If they put out a crappy game, we'll know when we play it, but for my money they haven't yet.

A 15 YEAR OLD SERIES WITH 4 MAIN ENTRIES HAS INSPIRED DIFFERENT REACTIONS IN DIFFERENT PEOPLE, NEWS AT 11

I mean, people were not that thrilled by Gat out of Hell and seem that Agents of Mayhem was outright hated, so dunno if Volition is that aware.

But then again, maybe I’m just old for the juvenile tone of the franchise.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Himu on August 27, 2021, 08:35:33 PM
SR2 is my favorite open world game from the PS3/360 generation, except for maybe The Lost and Damned and Sleeping Dogs.  The graphics were already dated, the soundtrack is good but way too limited (I seriously never want to hear fucking Paramore ever again), the story is garbage, the acting is meh, but good fucking lord the game is just really fucking fun.  I played through it several times - do the pimping side mission to get the dual uzis with unlimited ammo and just go to town for the rest of the game.

SR2 is easily the most fun I've ever had with the genre.

Story wise I also think it fucking rocks for what they went for too.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Himu on August 27, 2021, 08:36:35 PM
I can kind of understand the position that SR2 is 'the best' due to it being a bit more tonally restrained than 3, despite all of the mechanical improvements 3 brought, but I can't understand holding that perspective then watching the below trailer and going FUCK YEAH FINALLY BACK TO THE SERIES ROOTS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gdGxjdm6yE

I see a tight knit crew having fun and fucking up gangs instead of a stupid game with super powers.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 27, 2021, 08:43:05 PM
Saints Row IV was p dope
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Himu on August 27, 2021, 08:54:41 PM
Saints Row IV was p dope

I understand that game has its fans and I respect it. It's unfortunate I didn't get into it and that we won't see eye to eye on it.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: benjipwns on August 27, 2021, 11:38:04 PM
All of the Saints Row games are excellent except Gat Out of Hell which is merely good. Agents of Mayhem has a lot of missteps in design. That, more than meme Nintex is trying to push, is the greater concern as to whether or not this can match/top IV.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: benjipwns on August 28, 2021, 02:42:52 AM
I will say that the "best" comment I saw about the new main gang so far is that ideally they'd be an enemy gang rather than your own.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Bebpo on August 28, 2021, 02:30:07 PM
Wait, so people are upset about these character designs?

The trailer looks like Watchdogs 2/3. Watchdogs 2 is one of the greatest sandbox GTA ripoffs there is. I get Saints Row has been more gangster satire, but if it's more Watchdogs 2 that is ok? Everything should be more Watchdogs 2.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Don Rumata on August 28, 2021, 03:26:33 PM
I didn't like any of the characters in Watch Dogs 2, almost impossible not to skip the cutscenes (but this is true for most Ubisoft games, probably because they have that unified writing team).  :yeshrug
But atm it's mostly visually that i'm finding them terribly uninspired, again the girl with the scorpion shirt is straight out of a The Sims or Tony Hawk character creator.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: bork on August 28, 2021, 04:08:46 PM
Everything should be more Watchdogs 2.

:donot

No.  No Ubishit, please.  I want more of the awesome stuff that Volition did with SR2, 3, and 4. 
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on August 28, 2021, 04:33:59 PM
Wait, so people are upset about these character designs?

The trailer looks like Watchdogs 2/3. Watchdogs 2 is one of the greatest sandbox GTA ripoffs there is. I get Saints Row has been more gangster satire, but if it's more Watchdogs 2 that is ok? Everything should be more Watchdogs 2.

No it really shouldnt. Ubisoft cant write for shit
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: mormapope on August 28, 2021, 06:48:14 PM
Watch Dogs 1 has better gunplay and combat than any GTA (I say this as a huge Rockstar fan), along with awesome vehicle handling, and bullet time for combat and driving. Watch Dogs 2 has a fuck ton of gameplay options/variety in its sandbox.


Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Boredfrom on August 28, 2021, 09:02:38 PM
Everything should be more Watchdogs 2.

:donot

No.  No Ubishit, please.  I want more of the awesome stuff that Volition did with SR2, 3, and 4.

 ???

But, gameplay wise, Watchdogs 2 is awesome.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: mormapope on August 28, 2021, 10:04:12 PM
Everything should be more Watchdogs 2.

:donot

No.  No Ubishit, please.  I want more of the awesome stuff that Volition did with SR2, 3, and 4.

 ???

But, gameplay wise, Watchdogs 2 is awesome.

It's "Every Ubisoft game is shit" group think, even though they've produced several great games every gen since the PS1.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Himu on August 28, 2021, 10:19:42 PM
no one cares about watchdogs
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: mormapope on August 28, 2021, 10:28:04 PM
More people care about Watch Dogs than Agents of Mayhem  :awesome

Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 28, 2021, 10:36:00 PM
Speaking primarily as a pc gamer, Ubisoft is cancelled until they atone for uplay. I have spoken.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on August 28, 2021, 10:38:49 PM
Ubisoft have made some good games, but I've not been able to get into many, if any, of their aaa stuff. It's always the smaller budget titles and stuff like rocksmith. Watch dogs was dog dirt for me, the kind of open world game I never want to play again.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Borealis on August 28, 2021, 11:26:49 PM
In terms of NPC behaviour and variety, honestly Watch Dogs 2's San Fran world was one of the few that came close to SR2's Stilwater. That game was really the least Ubisoft of Ubisoft's formulaic systtems, but I can understand the dislike for its cast and narrative.

Personally, I am glad this steers closer to 2 than 3 and 4. Volition though, need to start showing instead of bloody talking about it given the 6-month window to release.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Bebpo on August 29, 2021, 01:33:14 AM
Anyhow, after that derail I admit I am one of the 5 people in the universe that really liked the vibe & cast of Watchdogs 2. When I think of Gen Z hip dudebro culture satire you cannot get any better than Hackers movie vibe. I guess this Saints Row trailer is more Fortnite vibe, but generally satirical self-aware multi-cultural geek Gen Z-ers works for me /shrug
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Don Rumata on August 29, 2021, 03:26:45 AM
Everything should be more Watchdogs 2.

:donot

No.  No Ubishit, please.  I want more of the awesome stuff that Volition did with SR2, 3, and 4.

 ???

But, gameplay wise, Watchdogs 2 is awesome.

It's "Every Ubisoft game is shit" group think, even though they've produced several great games every gen since the PS1.
I love Ubisoft games usually, i play most of their open worlds and love them.
I think after R* they're the most capable developer, when it comes to creating large virtual spaces.
Something Sony should learn from, going by Horizon and Ghost of Tsushima, for example.

But their writing is consistently shit and some of the worst, most annoying i have experienced in gaming.
They've had that "hello fellow kids" attitude with 90% of their games, in the last 10 years or so.
It was in Watch Dogs 2/Legion, it was in the modern portions of most ACs past 3, all the way up to Rider's Republic of which i played the beta yesterday.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Don Rumata on August 29, 2021, 06:16:13 AM
Read the run down from this thread: https://www.resetera.com/threads/saints-row-ps4-ps5-xbox-one-series-epic-everything-you-need-to-know.477027/

The game sounds pretty good so far.
Aside from the lame lieutenants and rival gangs, everything else sounds solid, especially customization.
Also happy full coop wasn't dropped, it was a major leg up SR had over GTA and other open world games.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: pilonv1 on August 29, 2021, 06:23:26 AM
Speaking of customization. We can't have a Saints thread without our beautiful fellow Boreans classic video.

https://youtu.be/Oa2jLp-sqzI

:bow

:bow HSMP :bow2
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: pilonv1 on August 29, 2021, 06:28:23 AM
Read the run down from this thread: https://www.resetera.com/threads/saints-row-ps4-ps5-xbox-one-series-epic-everything-you-need-to-know.477027/

The game sounds pretty good so far.

The World section sounds more like Saints Row 2. Steelport was pretty generic and looked similar no matter where you were. Stillwater was really unique and you knew instantly where you were and everything looked different. Hoping that's the case with this new release.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: bork on August 29, 2021, 11:42:01 AM
Anyhow, after that derail I admit I am one of the 5 people in the universe that really liked the vibe & cast of Watchdogs 2. When I think of Gen Z hip dudebro culture satire you cannot get any better than Hackers movie vibe. I guess this Saints Row trailer is more Fortnite vibe, but generally satirical self-aware multi-cultural geek Gen Z-ers works for me /shrug

It's not gameplay I'm talking about -Volition has that down anyway- it's everything else.  I want SAINTS ROW, not Watch Dogs.  Hard to tell what we're going to get from this new entry- I'm not just going to dismiss it because of the new style.  I'll try it first, but I'm just not digging the new character designs. 
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 29, 2021, 02:22:51 PM
It's still gonna be a day 1 purchase for me

:yeshrug

tbh this is making me want to replay one of the older games, not sure if I should fire up 2 or 3 tho. I never played 2 with the "Gentlemen of the Row" mod, maybe time to try it
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Boredfrom on August 29, 2021, 06:21:13 PM
Everything should be more Watchdogs 2.

:donot

No.  No Ubishit, please.  I want more of the awesome stuff that Volition did with SR2, 3, and 4.

 ???

But, gameplay wise, Watchdogs 2 is awesome.

It's "Every Ubisoft game is shit" group think, even though they've produced several great games every gen since the PS1.
I love Ubisoft games usually, i play most of their open worlds and love them.
I think after R* they're the most capable developer, when it comes to creating large virtual spaces.
Something Sony should learn from, going by Horizon and Ghost of Tsushima, for example.

But their writing is consistently shit and some of the worst, most annoying i have experienced in gaming.
They've had that "hello fellow kids" attitude with 90% of their games, in the last 10 years or so.
It was in Watch Dogs 2/Legion, it was in the modern portions of most ACs past 3, all the way up to Rider's Republic of which i played the beta yesterday.


I said before, but I feel some the writers of Watch Dogs know how fake “Fellow kids” their stories are, so there is moments where they kind of take the piss off. Then again, they keep pushing Aiden like anybody gives a fuck about him or they think AssCreed has a compelling story.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Himu on August 29, 2021, 08:27:55 PM
It's still gonna be a day 1 purchase for me

:yeshrug

tbh this is making me want to replay one of the older games, not sure if I should fire up 2 or 3 tho. I never played 2 with the "Gentlemen of the Row" mod, maybe time to try it

I'd say wait if you're wanting to play SR2. Idolninja, who is dying from cancer by the way, is finishing up SR2 on pc. Respect his dying wish and wait if you want to replay it for the fullest, bestest version of SR2 available.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Himu on August 29, 2021, 08:29:30 PM
Read the run down from this thread: https://www.resetera.com/threads/saints-row-ps4-ps5-xbox-one-series-epic-everything-you-need-to-know.477027/

The game sounds pretty good so far.
Aside from the lame lieutenants and rival gangs, everything else sounds solid, especially customization.
Also happy full coop wasn't dropped, it was a major leg up SR had over GTA and other open world games.

Day 0.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on August 29, 2021, 11:30:23 PM
It's still gonna be a day 1 purchase for me

:yeshrug

tbh this is making me want to replay one of the older games, not sure if I should fire up 2 or 3 tho. I never played 2 with the "Gentlemen of the Row" mod, maybe time to try it

I'd say wait if you're wanting to play SR2. Idolninja, who is dying from cancer by the way, is finishing up SR2 on pc. Respect his dying wish and wait if you want to replay it for the fullest, bestest version of SR2 available.
I think he's passed away just recently.  :(
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: bork on August 30, 2021, 07:05:59 AM
It's still gonna be a day 1 purchase for me

:yeshrug

tbh this is making me want to replay one of the older games, not sure if I should fire up 2 or 3 tho. I never played 2 with the "Gentlemen of the Row" mod, maybe time to try it

I'd say wait if you're wanting to play SR2. Idolninja, who is dying from cancer by the way, is finishing up SR2 on pc. Respect his dying wish and wait if you want to replay it for the fullest, bestest version of SR2 available.
I think he's passed away just recently.  :(

Yes, he passed away last week.  RIP.   :'(

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2021-08-26-tributes-to-saints-row-modder-mike-idolninja-watson-who-has-died
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: pilonv1 on August 30, 2021, 07:06:36 AM
It's still gonna be a day 1 purchase for me

:yeshrug

tbh this is making me want to replay one of the older games, not sure if I should fire up 2 or 3 tho. I never played 2 with the "Gentlemen of the Row" mod, maybe time to try it

Besides the wrestling tie in I'm struggling to think of many things I would want to try again from 3. I can think of plenty from 2.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Himu on August 30, 2021, 09:22:35 AM
It's still gonna be a day 1 purchase for me

:yeshrug

tbh this is making me want to replay one of the older games, not sure if I should fire up 2 or 3 tho. I never played 2 with the "Gentlemen of the Row" mod, maybe time to try it

I'd say wait if you're wanting to play SR2. Idolninja, who is dying from cancer by the way, is finishing up SR2 on pc. Respect his dying wish and wait if you want to replay it for the fullest, bestest version of SR2 available.
I think he's passed away just recently.  :(

Oh my God :stahp Wow.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: benjipwns on August 30, 2021, 02:02:43 PM
I'd like a more destructible environment. Steelport was very stiff and concrete in this regard. Not even signs and stuff would take damage like in 2.

Stilwater also had interiors and locations that weren't locked into missions. Helped make the world feel connected and encouraged wandering
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Don Rumata on August 30, 2021, 04:35:32 PM
2 also had more customizable spaces (like safehouses and such) than the sequels, unless i'm remembering wrong.
I hope that stuff is back big time (it would seems like it).
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on August 30, 2021, 05:12:37 PM
I feel like I've totally missed out on SR2... The first one was so blah and meh back then, I had zero interest in SR2.  Wasn't even gonna care for SR3 until it was free on PS+ and bork insisted I play it... I did and totally had one of the biggest blasts in my gaming memory...  I had no idea.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on August 30, 2021, 05:58:45 PM
If you thought the first one was blah I dont know why you would like the second one
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Akala on August 30, 2021, 06:53:38 PM
I thought 1 was bullshit and 2 was good.  :ufup

this one looks fine?
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on August 30, 2021, 07:28:22 PM
1 was better than GTA IV in a lot of ways
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 30, 2021, 10:19:17 PM
Well, that's a pretty fuckin low bar to clear
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: bork on August 30, 2021, 10:29:43 PM
If you thought the first one was blah I dont know why you would like the second one

I only played the demo and didn't get a good impression of the first game.  Then videos showing all the insanity that SR2 had to offer came out and I got it and absolutely loved it.  So I can see how he missed out on the first game. 
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Himu on August 30, 2021, 11:46:30 PM
If you thought the first one was blah I dont know why you would like the second one

What in the fuck are you talking about? They're completely different and I say this as a fan of both.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on August 31, 2021, 04:09:56 AM
If you thought the first one was blah I dont know why you would like the second one

What in the fuck are you talking about? They're completely different and I say this as a fan of both.

How are they 'completely' different exactly?
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: pilonv1 on August 31, 2021, 04:42:50 AM
The tone of the games are polar opposites for one
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on August 31, 2021, 07:21:12 AM
So what is the deal with SR2 PC port?  Seems everything I read, it's mostly just glitchy?  What was that big patch suppose to do?  Like, remaster it is ways, or just iron it out some?
Is it playable now with current mods? I don't see any mods on nexus.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: bork on August 31, 2021, 07:25:33 AM
So what is the deal with SR2 PC port?  Seems everything I read, it's mostly just glitchy?  What was that big patch suppose to do?  Like, remaster it is ways, or just iron it out some?
Is it playable now with current mods? I don't see any mods on nexus.

IIRC the original release was unplayable due to the amount of glitches and crashes.  I don't know if an updated version of the mod was ever released past 1.9.2 from some years back- https://www.saintsrowmods.com/forum/threads/gentlemen-of-the-row.24/ 

I ended up getting a copy of the game for PS3, to play again, instead of messing with the PC version.  The 360 version also had exclusive DLC that also contained some epilogue missions/story.  Nothing you can't Youtube though.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: bork on August 31, 2021, 07:31:01 AM
Just checked and Volition and Deep Silver are supposed to be finishing Gentlemen Of The Row at some point.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on August 31, 2021, 07:32:57 AM
Best track in SR3..

 :playa :ohyeah :mynicca

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBLPoH1SDmY

Funny thing about this song, I somehow completely missed it back then (not sure how that happened ???), and heard it first in the row..  absolutely fell for that game like no other.  Now whenever I hear this, it reminds me of all the fun I had in SR3...
I totally regret not saving the multitude of screenshots I uploaded to the official site.  They just shut it down without warning and lost all of them.  :noah
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Himu on August 31, 2021, 08:25:54 AM
Just checked and Volition and Deep Silver are supposed to be finishing Gentlemen Of The Row at some point.

I literally mentioned that last page re: idolninja. Volition have two people finishing a patch.

So what is the deal with SR2 PC port?  Seems everything I read, it's mostly just glitchy?  What was that big patch suppose to do?  Like, remaster it is ways, or just iron it out some?
Is it playable now with current mods? I don't see any mods on nexus.

Short version: SR2 pc was unplayable with horrific frame rate and lag and other bugs. SR2 is a modern classic, to preserve it, Idolninja made a mod to fix the pc versions performance while adding new QOL features (some that were added to SR3).
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on August 31, 2021, 08:29:32 AM
The tone of the games are polar opposites for one

Is it really tho?

Sr1 is a bit more self serious yea but..
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Himu on August 31, 2021, 08:32:37 AM
If you thought the first one was blah I dont know why you would like the second one

What in the fuck are you talking about? They're completely different and I say this as a fan of both.

How are they 'completely' different exactly?

For one the main character talks.

Second, SR2 has a distinct tone difference due to the fact the main character talks.

Three, SR1 is a strict GTA clone. SR2 is more of its own thing with its own direction.

Four, SR2 has way more content and mission variety.

This cannot be disputed. Saying "if you didn't like SR1 you wouldn't like SR2" is bananas and completely out of pocket in the place we call reality.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Himu on August 31, 2021, 08:40:23 AM
The tone of the games are polar opposites for one

Is it really tho?

Sr1 is a bit more self serious yea but..

"Sr1 is a bit more self serious..."

versus

https://youtu.be/nK59n5E_ck4

and

https://youtu.be/YkrJUVXoMRY

SR2 is basically like SR1's seriousness and SR3's wackiness had a baby. It's best of both worlds.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on August 31, 2021, 09:09:14 AM
Sr2 was indeed the best but it still had some stuff from sr1 that I missed
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Tasty on August 31, 2021, 10:04:47 AM
We only need a couple more Saints Row games for this discussion to become Final Fantasy-tier
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: benjipwns on September 01, 2021, 01:03:57 PM
So what is the deal with SR2 PC port?  Seems everything I read, it's mostly just glitchy?  What was that big patch suppose to do?  Like, remaster it is ways, or just iron it out some?
Is it playable now with current mods? I don't see any mods on nexus.
The version of the game on GOG (https://www.gog.com/game/saints_row_2) (currently 75% off, $2.49) should run fine on modern PC's. I don't know if the Steam version is as cleaned up but it's worth a try if you already have it.

The original PC port was farmed out to a company which eventually farmed it out to an arm of CD Projekt with a very small timeline so it was very hit or miss at release. It got patched once in a way that actually made it stutter more. GOG has since tweaked it further though. (And computer technology has advanced as to simply power past lots of the original issues.) As mentioned, the Gentleman of the Row mod patches it up further and adds content. Volition is updating Gentleman of the Row as a formal patch for the game but there is no timetable on the release, it was one of Idolninja's wishes that they complete it and they agreed to it in honor of him. The code for the port was thought lost for a number of years but Volition was able to get ahold of it thanks to GOG/CDPR.

I personally recommend the GOG version if you don't have it, especially with it on sale. Great version of a great game that runs just fine for me.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on September 01, 2021, 04:18:10 PM
The code for the port was thought lost for a number of years but Volition was able to get ahold of it thanks to GOG/CDPR.

Wow, big surprise that CDPR kept around this old transphobic game that no one else did.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on September 01, 2021, 04:26:04 PM
So what is the deal with SR2 PC port?  Seems everything I read, it's mostly just glitchy?  What was that big patch suppose to do?  Like, remaster it is ways, or just iron it out some?
Is it playable now with current mods? I don't see any mods on nexus.
The version of the game on GOG (https://www.gog.com/game/saints_row_2) (currently 75% off, $2.49) should run fine on modern PC's. I don't know if the Steam version is as cleaned up but it's worth a try if you already have it.

The original PC port was farmed out to a company which eventually farmed it out to an arm of CD Projekt with a very small timeline so it was very hit or miss at release. It got patched once in a way that actually made it stutter more. GOG has since tweaked it further though. (And computer technology has advanced as to simply power past lots of the original issues.) As mentioned, the Gentleman of the Row mod patches it up further and adds content. Volition is updating Gentleman of the Row as a formal patch for the game but there is no timetable on the release, it was one of Idolninja's wishes that they complete it and they agreed to it in honor of him. The code for the port was thought lost for a number of years but Volition was able to get ahold of it thanks to GOG/CDPR.

I personally recommend the GOG version if you don't have it, especially with it on sale. Great version of a great game that runs just fine for me.
Aw snap...  Bought
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: bork on September 01, 2021, 09:26:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKrMYwV-JEE

:anhuld
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Himu on September 02, 2021, 11:58:44 AM
the reaction to this reboot is precisely why I wrote what I wrote about gamers in the other thread.

"there's an MBA in the Saints!!" :maf

They bitched, about a franchise where one of your main goals is to make your gang mainstream even to the point of going to space. An MBA in the Saints, is honestly, par for the course.

Saints Row the Third: you play as basically movie stars that are gangsters. All of this ignores the fact that college students that need to become gangsters to pay off student loans is, in essence, pretty fucking hilarious.

Gamers are shit and always without fail ruin games.
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Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 02, 2021, 12:14:04 PM
More like Saints Row the Turd. I imagine the vocal minority you're seeing are the ones that think Saints Row 2 was the best and SR3 kinda ruined the franchise.

Wouldn't your conniptions over Final Fantasy put you straight into "Gamers are shit" category as well.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Himu on September 02, 2021, 12:21:20 PM
More like Saints Row the Turd. I imagine the vocal minority you're seeing are the ones that think Saints Row 2 was the best and SR3 kinda ruined the franchise.

Wouldn't your conniptions over Final Fantasy put you straight into "Gamers are shit" category as well.

When I disagree with games I tend to take a measured stance and make criticisms between different lines than "SAINTS ROW IS NOW WOKE!!!!"

Final Fantasy morphing into an action rpg franchise is a legitimate criticism. "SAINTS ROW IS WOKE!!!!" though? I think SMTV looks like utter shit. You don't see me making 30 minute long rant videos about how it looks like shit. Feels like once gamers latch onto something they just bitch and bitch and bitch and bitch about it very similarly to how they did when RE5 didn't have walk and shoot. Gamers will try to overwhelm the developer with group think with a constant stream targeting them. "SAINTS ROW IS DEAD!!!"

I'm sorry that my gamers are shit commentary offends you.

Also, vocal minority? In what world? Look at Volitions twitter and the dislike count in any video for the reboot.

https://youtu.be/3JQAheQYDxI
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Himu on September 02, 2021, 12:48:05 PM
Also, I'm fine with people not liking things. I express what the fuck I want to express as an individual. Say whatever you want. I sure do.

I said this very thread I hated Saints Row IV. But I did not get a group and beat down on Volition, stage dislike brigades. I just moved on and didn't even buy Gat Out of Hell.

You're confusing me taking issue with individual criticism. That's not an issue. We all have a right to our feelings. The problem is gamers as a group and how they act when something offends them as they wallow in group think. Look at how gamers, as a group, are acting towards the reboot and you'll see why I can't stand gamers.

It's really no different than when gamers were crying about you couldn't walk and shoot in RE5 just because they played Dead Space.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 02, 2021, 01:18:18 PM
How is people getting fed up with modern progressive thinking not legit criticism? Everything about what they've shown makes me think they'll beat me over the head with their lukewarm "progressive" takes.

Then it gets even better when they have to undercut serious bits with your MCU brand smarmy "humour" cause they're afraid to show heart.

The way they talk about these characters we're supposed to invite in our living room doesn't inspire any faith in them either. "Kevin is shirtless, we don't know why."  Wow, LOL so RANDOM! Fucking hell, give us something to hold on to... Sounds like they literally picked these characters from some pre-approved character sheets.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Don Rumata on September 02, 2021, 02:02:35 PM
I agree with HCRetro.

The only thing i'll say, is that sometimes, when a new entry of a franchise gets announced, the previous ones tend to go through a revisionist filter.
"Everybody" (as in, loud minority) complained about how boring GTA4 was, that cars were boats on wheels, and bowling and where's the fun stuff, etc.
GTAV comes out, and now you have a bunch of people complaining that it's too zany, where's the physics, where's the serious story and so on.

So i figured now Saint's Row 3 and 4 are being hailed more than they were, just because this new game has been announced and doesn't look too hot.
Doesn't dispel any criticism this new one's got coming to it, tho.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on September 02, 2021, 02:13:00 PM
Saints Row the Third: you play as basically movie stars that are gangsters. All of this ignores the fact that college students that need to become gangsters to pay off student loans is, in essence, pretty fucking hilarious.

I mean... the glamorisation of 'gangster culture' across various media making hardened criminals into entertainment figures with a fanbase defending anything they do is a pretty sharp satirical starting point.

"Paying off my Business School loans by stealing rocket launchers" is uhhhhh.... less so.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 02, 2021, 02:47:39 PM
How is people getting fed up with modern progressive thinking not legit criticism? Everything about what they've shown makes me think they'll beat me over the head with their lukewarm "progressive" takes.

Because Saint's Row has always punched up and made fun of whatever's trending when it came out. The lieutenants very much look like a tongue in cheek handling of wokeness and millennials to me... like, has SR ever played anything straight?

Not to mention outside of twitter "wokeness" isn't even a thing, and anyone who claims it is invariably turns out to either have fallen for right wing propaganda or have been told at some point in their life not to say the n word

(https://media2.giphy.com/media/pSauCNBp1DcOY/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47psrh9jgao9ym22wqto18p6ehvl3v4ztgms9q1ccj&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 02, 2021, 02:48:29 PM
Like seriously guys, are you worried that you're going to have to play through sensitivity training before a mission or some shit? gtfo

I agree with Cindy, gamers should be collectively thrown into the sea
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: thetylerrob on September 02, 2021, 03:00:06 PM
lol yeah, it's definitely a parody of focus-tested modern gaming trends and all the humor is just being kept under wraps to own the hater gamers out there.
This forum needs a copium emote asap.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on September 02, 2021, 03:03:30 PM
Previous Saints Row games were tonally similar to Archer - this one looks tonally similar to New Girl.

Both shows might be fine sitcoms, but if you like Archer, New Girl doesn't scratch the same itch.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 02, 2021, 03:28:31 PM
Not to mention outside of twitter "wokeness" isn't even a thing, and anyone who claims it is invariably turns out to either have fallen for right wing propaganda or have been told at some point in their life not to say the n word

Is this comment supposed to be satire? If you think the only people getting annoyed by having to walk on eggshells with every fucking topic is somehow a closet racist might I suggest you're the one that has fallen for modern bullshit. But don't worry, the people on your side are the good ones. That is what's important.

Cancel culture totally isn't a thing either. And it certainly hasn't sprung forth from modern puritanical ideals.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: BIONIC on September 02, 2021, 03:31:56 PM
Previous Saints Row games were tonally similar to Archer - this one looks tonally similar to New Girl.

Both shows might be fine sitcoms, but if you like Archer, New Girl doesn't scratch the same itch.

I like (the good seasons of) both shows  :ufup
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 02, 2021, 03:38:12 PM
The dregs of this shitty forum, 14 years on, have finely broken me. Later y'all, you all suck and have shitty taste.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on September 02, 2021, 03:42:47 PM
I like (the good seasons of) both shows  :ufup

I'm not ruling out the possibility Saints Rowboot might still be a good game :idont
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 02, 2021, 03:47:59 PM
The dregs of this shitty forum, 14 years on, have finely broken me. Later y'all, you all suck and have shitty taste.

If you're going back to the discord to lick each other's asses some more you'll be the one with the shitty taste.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Don Rumata on September 02, 2021, 05:36:33 PM
I'm not worried about "wokeness" in itself, i'm about the shitty humor always associated with it.
Saint's Row was already not exactly bright with its humor, a lot of it came from slapstick or pop culture references (especially in 3 and 4), this seems like it's getting worse, going for that cowardly, ironic, self-righteous smugness that's gotten popular in the last 10 or so years, where the protagonist, as the audience's avatar, can't be the butt of the joke.

The worry isn't about some great political statement being too provocative, just about lame, unfunny humor.
Jerry Seinfeld is funny BECAUSE he's a piece of shit self absorbed cunt, Frank Drebin is funny BECAUSE he's a horrible cop who like to shoot people.
So when they come out of the gate claiming how well meaning our crew is, that's not a good sign in my book, especially for a series known for its low brow humor.

But hey, anything is possible.

Like seriously guys, are you worried that you're going to have to play through sensitivity training before a mission or some shit? gtfo

I agree with Cindy, gamers should be collectively thrown into the sea
Also stop with this holier than thou bullshit, like those anime fans pretending to be better than the rest of the fanbase.
You're still all watching cartoons and playing videogames, bud.  :lol
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Himu on September 02, 2021, 09:50:18 PM
It's less holier than thou and more "God these people share this hobby with me and I fucking hate them, what does this say about me as an individual?"
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Post by: Mr. Nobody on September 02, 2021, 10:55:16 PM
Easy skip for me unless the gameplay happens to be miraculous. Not at all interested in playing the CW Saints.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: mormapope on September 03, 2021, 12:19:25 AM
I have a very deep and dark secret.

Are you ready?

Some people here enjoyed GTAIV and Saints Row 2

Here's another secret, a juicy one

Videogames usually have shitty humor, this new Saints Row looks like it has really shitty humor. The game could be great to play still, and that matters the most.

Here's the darkest one yet
Posting on a videogame forum is less about taste, and what you enjoy, versus discussions or conversations about games. No one gives a flying fuck about taste, you're in a social environment where relative strangers exist, not a personalized party where everyone enjoys the same shit.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: who is ted danson? on September 03, 2021, 03:01:43 AM
The only way Volition can restore their honour is to include a large purple dildo in the collectors edition.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 03, 2021, 05:02:01 AM
It's less holier than thou and more "God these people share this hobby with me and I fucking hate them, what does this say about me as an individual?"

Nothing.

If i'd let my self be defined by most fanbases at large, I'd have no hobbies. I'd have no political leanings either since most socialists/communists online seem like total insufferable cunts as well.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on September 03, 2021, 06:10:45 AM
The dregs of this shitty forum, 14 years on, have finely broken me. Later y'all, you all suck and have shitty taste.

 :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: headwalk on September 03, 2021, 06:15:10 AM
this thread is a facebook wall.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on September 03, 2021, 06:21:24 AM
It's less holier than thou and more "God these people share this hobby with me and I fucking hate them, what does this say about me as an individual?"

As much as the killers who collect stamps, if you collect stamps, why the fuck would you care what some other idiot says or thinks? Or does.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Tasty on September 03, 2021, 07:23:16 AM
The dregs of this shitty forum, 14 years on, have finely broken me. Later y'all, you all suck and have shitty taste.

:( Will miss ya, honestly.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: benjipwns on September 03, 2021, 09:57:00 AM
Like seriously guys, are you worried that you're going to have to play through sensitivity training before a mission or some shit?
Actually... :ohhh
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Himu on September 03, 2021, 10:27:35 AM
I have a very deep and dark secret.

Are you ready?

Some people here enjoyed GTAIV and Saints Row 2

Here's another secret, a juicy one

Videogames usually have shitty humor, this new Saints Row looks like it has really shitty humor. The game could be great to play still, and that matters the most.

Here's the darkest one yet
Posting on a videogame forum is less about taste, and what you enjoy, versus discussions or conversations about games. No one gives a flying fuck about taste, you're in a social environment where relative strangers exist, not a personalized party where everyone enjoys the same shit.

I like both. Just because I say SR1 is better than GTAIV (it is imo) doesn't mean I said GTAIV is entirely bad.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Don Rumata on September 03, 2021, 10:38:46 AM
I think GTAIV was the right direction to go in for the franchise, even if it was flawed in many ways, some that GTAV did fix.
Thankfully R* resumed that direction with RDR2, which is also their best game yet.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 03, 2021, 11:03:19 AM
hello niko its your cousin ;)
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: BIONIC on September 03, 2021, 11:19:37 AM
hello niko its your cousin ;)

Big American Titties  :freeze
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Himu on September 03, 2021, 03:50:19 PM
I think GTAIV was the right direction to go in for the franchise, even if it was flawed in many ways, some that GTAV did fix.
Thankfully R* resumed that direction with RDR2, which is also their best game yet.

The beginning of GTAIV is very, very good shit. The problem with IV is a lack of content compared to past games. The car physics, early game writing;etc. are really great.

Another flaw with IV is that it doesn't have the same loop as GTAIII trilogy so there's less reason to explore since there's no rewards. Good to great game though. Just with a lot of bruises.

I've never played RDR2 so that praise piques my interest.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 03, 2021, 04:40:31 PM
RDR2 veers closer to the simulation style that GTAIV had going for it. It makes for the most interesting open world they ever had since it heavily expands on the simulation aspects of the first game. Engaging with the hunting and fishing minigames actually does lead to rewards. Either new clothes or items that enhance the gameplay in certain ways. Interacting with the flora and fauna also prompts the main character to make little sketches of them in his notebook. Kind of making for a cute little diary of what you've done and where you've been in the game.

I also really enjoyed the treasure maps as it shows off how well they designed the world. It'll show like a little charcoal panoramic shot where X marks the spot and if you paid attention to your surroundings while playing the game, the landmarks are good enough that you should be able to figure out where they're located.

Then there's also a bunch of collectibles to find. Some feeding into sidequests, others just to make some bucks.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Don Rumata on September 03, 2021, 05:29:02 PM
What i liked about RDR2, compared to their other "serious tone" entries, like GTA IV and RDR1, is that it kept the critical path relatively consistent in tone, and relegated the more absurd characters to secondary quests or random encounters (again, for the most part).
So it was easier to put together a story with a modicum of gravitas.

Also the main plot landed itself a bit better to the idea of "wasting time" between missions, compared to something like RDR1.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Himu on September 03, 2021, 06:44:45 PM
How's the loop?

One of the best things about GTAIII and VC were unlocks. The loop was start on an island, then you collect hidden tapes or whatever and then unlock new stuff like free weapons at your hideout. This gives you even more reason to explore. Then you unlock new island and get access to new hidden stuff to unlock even more. It's an addictive formula for me that GTAIV toned down because pigeons don't have a reward every 10 pigeons or so like with hidden tapes. It breaks the formula for me and it's one of many GTAIV's flaws.

I like the simulation tone but it has to be tip top and GTAIV, while a worthwhile experiment, didn't full fulfill the metric. That said RDR1 succeeded where IV didn't.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Kurt Russell on September 03, 2021, 09:15:49 PM
poop
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Don Rumata on September 04, 2021, 03:15:31 AM
How's the loop?
The campaign moves you (every X missions) from one "camp" to another, basically around the map, for story reasons.
When you're in a camp you're still free to explore the whole map (more or less) but you tend to stick around and do the activities around your area.

I'd say compared to other R* titles, activities are a bit more integrated into the world, similar to how random encounters in GTAV worked, but more organically implemented.
The pace is slow though, and that's just something you either accept or drop the game over.
I love the slow pace, i love to soak in environments in open world games, walk around etc, so that was gravy for me.
For example when you enter a house to loot it of resources, Arthur literally hand picks cans of beans and tobacco boxes with an animation, if this drives you crazy i can understand ending up hating the game.

My only real issue (aside from the main missions still feeling too tightly scripted) is that the aim/shooting still doesn't feel good, at least with a controller, despite being an improvement from GTAV, and despite the setting being a bit more forgiving (guns were shit back then after all).
I would've actually liked for them to slow down the game even further, just be done with the enemy waves entirely, and increase the survival elements, but i understand they still wanted this to be a mass appeal game.

Also Arthur is the best character they've ever written in my opinion.
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Post by: MMaRsu on September 04, 2021, 04:52:40 AM
Rdr2 is the game of the decade. But put the controls on fos standard and youll br fine
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Post by: Uncle on September 04, 2021, 03:44:59 PM
How's the loop?

One of the best things about GTAIII and VC were unlocks. The loop was start on an island, then you collect hidden tapes or whatever and then unlock new stuff like free weapons at your hideout. This gives you even more reason to explore. Then you unlock new island and get access to new hidden stuff to unlock even more. It's an addictive formula for me that GTAIV toned down because pigeons don't have a reward every 10 pigeons or so like with hidden tapes. It breaks the formula for me and it's one of many GTAIV's flaws.

I like the simulation tone but it has to be tip top and GTAIV, while a worthwhile experiment, didn't full fulfill the metric. That said RDR1 succeeded where IV didn't.

I think it had much fewer interiors too, like massively walking back the intricacy of san andreas

to the point of not even having fucking garages where you could cram whatever you could fit in there, instead you get shitty outdoor parking spaces that were sometimes vaguely possible to store 2 vehicles there, often it'd glitch out and you'd lose something
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: BIONIC on September 04, 2021, 04:32:14 PM
to the point of not even having fucking garages where you could cram whatever you could fit in there, instead you get shitty outdoor parking spaces that were sometimes vaguely possible to store 2 vehicles there, often it'd glitch out and you'd lose something

Cramming a Rhino and a Hunter in a Vice City garage  :lawd
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Himu on September 04, 2021, 06:02:28 PM
How's the loop?

One of the best things about GTAIII and VC were unlocks. The loop was start on an island, then you collect hidden tapes or whatever and then unlock new stuff like free weapons at your hideout. This gives you even more reason to explore. Then you unlock new island and get access to new hidden stuff to unlock even more. It's an addictive formula for me that GTAIV toned down because pigeons don't have a reward every 10 pigeons or so like with hidden tapes. It breaks the formula for me and it's one of many GTAIV's flaws.

I like the simulation tone but it has to be tip top and GTAIV, while a worthwhile experiment, didn't full fulfill the metric. That said RDR1 succeeded where IV didn't.

I think it had much fewer interiors too, like massively walking back the intricacy of san andreas

to the point of not even having fucking garages where you could cram whatever you could fit in there, instead you get shitty outdoor parking spaces that were sometimes vaguely possible to store 2 vehicles there, often it'd glitch out and you'd lose something

Tbf that's NYC. There are barely garages here.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Don Rumata on September 05, 2021, 04:22:36 AM
How's the loop?

One of the best things about GTAIII and VC were unlocks. The loop was start on an island, then you collect hidden tapes or whatever and then unlock new stuff like free weapons at your hideout. This gives you even more reason to explore. Then you unlock new island and get access to new hidden stuff to unlock even more. It's an addictive formula for me that GTAIV toned down because pigeons don't have a reward every 10 pigeons or so like with hidden tapes. It breaks the formula for me and it's one of many GTAIV's flaws.

I like the simulation tone but it has to be tip top and GTAIV, while a worthwhile experiment, didn't full fulfill the metric. That said RDR1 succeeded where IV didn't.

I think it had much fewer interiors too, like massively walking back the intricacy of san andreas

to the point of not even having fucking garages where you could cram whatever you could fit in there, instead you get shitty outdoor parking spaces that were sometimes vaguely possible to store 2 vehicles there, often it'd glitch out and you'd lose something
I liked the outdoor parking, felt more natural.
The glitch wasn't really a function of it (the game doesn't care if you have a polygonal model of a garage around the spot marked for saving your vehicles) since the glitch of disappearing vehicles was also in the old GTAs as well as in GTAV with enclosed garages.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Uncle on September 05, 2021, 03:01:33 PM
How's the loop?

One of the best things about GTAIII and VC were unlocks. The loop was start on an island, then you collect hidden tapes or whatever and then unlock new stuff like free weapons at your hideout. This gives you even more reason to explore. Then you unlock new island and get access to new hidden stuff to unlock even more. It's an addictive formula for me that GTAIV toned down because pigeons don't have a reward every 10 pigeons or so like with hidden tapes. It breaks the formula for me and it's one of many GTAIV's flaws.

I like the simulation tone but it has to be tip top and GTAIV, while a worthwhile experiment, didn't full fulfill the metric. That said RDR1 succeeded where IV didn't.

I think it had much fewer interiors too, like massively walking back the intricacy of san andreas

to the point of not even having fucking garages where you could cram whatever you could fit in there, instead you get shitty outdoor parking spaces that were sometimes vaguely possible to store 2 vehicles there, often it'd glitch out and you'd lose something
I liked the outdoor parking, felt more natural.
The glitch wasn't really a function of it (the game doesn't care if you have a polygonal model of a garage around the spot marked for saving your vehicles) since the glitch of disappearing vehicles was also in the old GTAs as well as in GTAV with enclosed garages.
it was a function of it, since the AI and physics meant that any weird thing that happened nearby could knock your saved cars off the parking spaces, if NPCs decided to start driving crazy or bumped into them or whatnot, especially with the more physics heavy engine

it was also just plain a lot less space, being able to possibly save 2 vehicles if you're lucky as opposed to 4
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Kurt Russell on September 07, 2021, 12:49:58 PM
The dregs of this shitty forum, 14 years on, have finely broken me. Later y'all, you all suck and have shitty taste.

(https://i.imgur.com/0D57WBs.png)
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Trent Dole on September 07, 2021, 06:32:11 PM
It's less holier than thou and more "God these people share this hobby with me and I fucking hate them, what does this say about me as an individual?"
It means you happen to like a mass market thing and some of the masses suck shit. :yeshrug
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: ZombieSupaStar on September 07, 2021, 08:22:50 PM
We better still be able to go to Freckle Bitches……!
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on September 10, 2021, 04:47:21 PM
Quote
Saints Row wouldn’t be Saints Row without customization, so of course this game will have tons of customization!  We’ve built the biggest customization suite of any Saints Row game; we have the most in-depth character creator ever seen in a Saints game. You can create exactly who you want to play as – whether that’s a stone-cold killer or a fantastic looking freakshow. There are eight customizable voices you can give to the Boss – four male and four female – all sound great, and again more choice than we’ve offered in other Saints Row games.  And also, you’ll be pleased to hear, layered clothing is BACK! Well done to the eagle eyed of you that picked up on that.  In terms of vehicles, we have a HUGE array of customization options to dig in to – and any vehicle you customize will be safely stored in a garage.  There’s a lot to look forward to and much more to come, including some big surprises that we can’t share just yet, as well as some features that are sure to make jaws drop.
:obama :ohyeah
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: who is ted danson? on September 10, 2021, 04:53:54 PM
after cyberpunk, a dick/pussy slider is essential for any quality character creator
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Kurt Russell on September 10, 2021, 05:44:39 PM
ERA: We need more trans-representation in vidya

after cyberpunk, a dick/pussy slider is essential for any quality character creator

ALSO ERA: Allowing male/female genitalia on atypical bodies is dog whistling transphobia as it allows gamergate to LARP as trans.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 11, 2021, 10:11:06 AM
after cyberpunk, a dick/pussy slider is essential for any quality character creator

Saints Row 3/4 had the sex appeal slider which basically functioned in the same way.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 11, 2021, 10:14:17 AM
We better still be able to go to Freckle Bitches……!

They're called FBs now and Rim Jobs became Jim Robs.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Kurt Russell on September 12, 2021, 07:22:49 AM
They're called FBs now and Rim Jobs became Jim Robs.

I thought this was sarcasm, but nope - it's real.

At this point, why even bother. Just create a new fucking IP and let Saints Row rot in peace.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Tasty on September 12, 2021, 07:56:36 AM
They're called FBs now and Rim Jobs became Jim Robs.

I thought this was sarcasm, but nope - it's real.

Wait what :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on September 12, 2021, 12:11:47 PM
Y'all serious?  :dayum
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Himu on September 12, 2021, 02:47:13 PM
NOOOOOOO!!!

:stop

"Remember me? I was the little girl with the pigtails and Freckles on all of daddy's restaurants. Well I'm all grown up, and we are here to please you."

2006-2021 RIP Freckle Bitch's.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Kurt Russell on September 12, 2021, 04:21:30 PM
Wait what :lol :lol :lol

Y'all serious?  :dayum

(https://preview.redd.it/ameaopydbyj71.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=6ffe4609ab04c9e663da802f2661744a42911076)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E96GdQ5WEAE-pRl?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on September 12, 2021, 04:27:59 PM
its funny satire guys, you just didnt realise yet, wait until the reveal
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Don Rumata on September 12, 2021, 04:43:30 PM
I assume FB is still the same, just shortened in the logo.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on September 12, 2021, 05:01:22 PM
I dunno.. nothing in the reveal or anything that points to this as being an M rated game, unless I missed something otherwise.  They maybe shooting for a Teen rating?  Why would they change it otherwise?
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: benjipwns on September 12, 2021, 06:03:07 PM
Why would they change it otherwise?
Evolving standards.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Don Rumata on September 12, 2021, 06:14:28 PM
A more mature humor.
Like getting rid of Donut Drake. :ufup
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on September 13, 2021, 07:33:44 AM
No fun allowed.jpg
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Himu on September 13, 2021, 10:11:15 PM
"you can't beat our meat special" :dead
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Don Rumata on September 14, 2021, 03:33:13 AM
Tell me that isn't GTA-style humor!  :bolo
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Uncle on September 14, 2021, 09:08:28 AM
I assume FB is still the same, just shortened in the logo.

screenshots above show she used to be scantily clad and is now sexless, completely covered in a chef's outfit
 :notlikethis
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Don Rumata on September 14, 2021, 09:19:02 AM
I assume FB is still the same, just shortened in the logo.

screenshots above show she used to be scantily clad and is now sexless, completely covered in a chef's outfit
 :notlikethis
She also looks like she has an undercut. :hitler
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 14, 2021, 10:13:49 AM
Still has a 420 reference tho. :rejoice
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 14, 2021, 10:18:50 AM
Route 69 was probably too edgy.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on September 14, 2021, 11:49:29 AM
Probably cant even smoke weed anymore 😡
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: porkbun on September 14, 2021, 12:37:11 PM
It will be in vape form only.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Tasty on September 14, 2021, 01:21:43 PM
Still has a 420 reference tho. :rejoice

The 90s called...
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on September 14, 2021, 01:28:17 PM
It will be in vape form only.
Only the dankest of Delta 8.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 14, 2021, 01:51:13 PM
Still has a 420 reference tho. :rejoice

The 90s called...

Why, did they hear about the new Matrix movie? 8)
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Don Rumata on September 14, 2021, 04:08:59 PM
That's cause pot's getting legalized all over, so it's not that edgy anymore.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Himu on September 14, 2021, 04:11:16 PM
We need to bring misogyny back to games.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Don Rumata on September 14, 2021, 06:00:26 PM
hey, remember Hannibal:

tame nudity in Boticelli's Spring:
(https://i.imgur.com/rftFAIm.jpg)

meanwhile:
(https://cdn.pastemagazine.com/www/articles/hannibal-gruesomelist-NurseShishKabob.jpg)
(https://cdn.pastemagazine.com/www/articles/hannibal-gruesomelist-smile.jpg)
(https://cdn.pastemagazine.com/www/articles/hannibal-gruesomelist-Angels.jpg)


 :doge
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 18, 2021, 04:22:15 AM
https://youtu.be/bgvPM9hIA7k


Leaked footage from the game.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 22, 2021, 05:13:33 AM
It pretty much looked like Saints Row 3 from the footage that was shown in that vid. I'll see if I can find a backup.

Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintsRow/comments/pr1tir/original_saints_row_leak_by_srdominatrix/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintsRow/comments/pr1tir/original_saints_row_leak_by_srdominatrix/)

You can watch it there.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: benjipwns on September 22, 2021, 05:41:41 AM
It looks alright, though the city looks a little barren at times, apparently this is pre-alpha if I read that thread correctly so whatever I guess.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: chronovore on September 30, 2021, 05:10:18 PM
I feel like I've totally missed out on SR2... The first one was so blah and meh back then, I had zero interest in SR2.  Wasn't even gonna care for SR3 until it was free on PS+ and bork insisted I play it... I did and totally had one of the biggest blasts in my gaming memory...  I had no idea.
If you thought the first one was blah I dont know why you would like the second one
1 was better than GTA IV in a lot of ways
First one was a bunch of guys in Champagne, IL, making what they thought was gangbanger GTA game, without a sense of humor. They studiously avoided several GTA gameplay mechanics, likely suspecting it would awaken something litigious in Rockstar.

When GTA IV finally came out, it abandoned all the R3 side missions that made the PS2 era games so fun for many open-world enthusiasts. Volition seized on this and made SR2 largely based on side missions AND made the game fully playable in Co-Op, which any network engineer can tell you is a remarkable feat. (It unfortunately launched with a shit-ton of bugs.)

Elsewhere in this thread, it was mentioned that Gat Out of Hell also re-used the SR2 or SR3 maps, but I do not recall this being true. Some assets may have been re-used, but the map itself was a hellscape which required a number of vertical traversal gameplay additions.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Borealis on October 05, 2021, 10:34:24 PM
New stuff out from Gameinformer coverage, looking better to me.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: HardcoreRetro on October 12, 2021, 08:11:12 AM
https://youtu.be/649OXm6Mx-s
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 12, 2021, 09:25:19 PM
Looks good to me
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: pilonv1 on October 12, 2021, 09:45:54 PM
Agreed, looks good and very familiar. Really excited for this.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Bebpo on October 12, 2021, 09:55:03 PM
Setting looks really good.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: benjipwns on October 12, 2021, 10:15:55 PM
Quote
Twisted Secret
6 hours ago
I need to know if this is AA or AAA so that i can make a better decision.
If this is AAA then damn man you couldn't even beat ubisofts standards. If this is AA then its decent.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Don Rumata on October 12, 2021, 10:18:56 PM
Looks much better than Steelport, though not exactly to a level where you can flex with a "just walk around" video, compared to the level where world building's at in 2021 open worlds.
I like the skyline at night though, if the game's fun it should do well.

Personally i would've gone with something a bit more vertically complex, to aid the gameplay.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: chronovore on October 12, 2021, 10:30:40 PM
Quote
Twisted Secret
6 hours ago
I need to know if this is AA or AAA so that i can make a better decision.
If this is AAA then damn man you couldn't even beat ubisofts standards. If this is AA then its decent.
:iface
spoiler (click to show/hide)
  :beavis
[close]
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: benjipwns on October 12, 2021, 10:37:40 PM
I still want to see a lot more gameplay, but I also admit that the only reason I'm not already confirmed in for this is the EGS exclusivity period. I can wait a year for Steam.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Bebpo on October 12, 2021, 10:51:13 PM
Looks much better than Steelport, though not exactly to a level where you can flex with a "just walk around" video, compared to the level where world building's at in 2021 open worlds.
I like the skyline at night though, if the game's fun it should do well.

Personally i would've gone with something a bit more vertically complex, to aid the gameplay.

Idk, looks like GTAV and right now the only sandbox city game that looks like GTAV quality visuals is...GTAV and maybe Watchdogs Legion but that game sucks. I'll gladly take a GTAV nice looking city sandbox in a new location.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Bebpo on October 12, 2021, 10:53:17 PM
Actually nevermind. I was watching that video on my phone but on my PC it definitely looks more like Saints Row 3/4/5 engine with a better lit daytime setting than GTAV.

Still looks fine even if it's not pushing anything tech-wise.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: HardcoreRetro on October 13, 2021, 03:39:39 AM
If you played the Saints Row 3 remaster, it basically looks like that. That one had the enhanced lighting and HDR support as well.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: chronovore on October 13, 2021, 03:57:48 AM
The remaster was likely their testbed for engine performance. I'm excited to think about going back to the Row.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: pilonv1 on October 13, 2021, 05:59:04 AM
I still want to see a lot more gameplay, but I also admit that the only reason I'm not already confirmed in for this is the EGS exclusivity period. I can wait a year for Steam.

I'm still waiting for Hitman 3's exclusivity to end. Not sure I can do so with Saints Row if this is as good as 2 or 3.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: pilonv1 on October 14, 2021, 12:27:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDMZwX5oJvA

Driving and gunplay. Think I'm fully on board with this now.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Beezy on October 14, 2021, 03:22:39 AM
I'm there day one
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: HardcoreRetro on October 14, 2021, 05:24:16 AM
Why do they keep calling stuff like that pre-alpha? This looks like the finished product before the gold mastering. I hope they at least increase the crowd density.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Don Rumata on October 14, 2021, 08:58:46 AM
Looks.. fine.
So far they didn't really show anything that stands out, tbh.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: porkbun on October 14, 2021, 12:09:47 PM
I liked the move where you can get out from the car and rid eon the roof.  Reminded me of Wheelman, which was actually a pretty fun open world game.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: chronovore on October 15, 2021, 08:41:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDMZwX5oJvA

Driving and gunplay. Think I'm fully on board with this now.

Using "POLICE SHOTGUN" on Police… I guess you gotta match the weapon to the crime…?  :P
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Tycoon Padre on October 21, 2021, 08:37:54 AM
:larry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovfZ6rW3d2s

Cars looking like

(https://blacksportsonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Triple-AAA.jpg)
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: HardcoreRetro on October 21, 2021, 09:39:38 AM
Guess they fit the characters then.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Borealis on October 21, 2021, 12:02:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcQjAkxY2xg
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: pilonv1 on October 22, 2021, 06:50:52 AM
The car combat looks pretty fun, a bit like Burnout with Takedowns. Tethering could open up a lot of possibilities too.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Don Rumata on October 22, 2021, 09:56:47 AM
This game really needs some kind of gimmick, because so far it looks bland as fuck.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on October 22, 2021, 02:36:52 PM
This game really needs some kind of gimmick, because so far it looks bland as fuck.
All I want them to show is the absurd amount of customization they claim it'll have.  :hmph
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Mr. Nobody on October 23, 2021, 02:36:35 PM
This game really needs some kind of gimmick, because so far it looks bland as fuck.

You're telling me teenager hipsters aren't the gimmick?  ???
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Kurt Russell on October 25, 2021, 03:18:43 PM
This is going to be a Lawbreakers-tier bomba, mark my words. It's just so fucking sterile.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: chronovore on October 25, 2021, 07:35:44 PM
I think it will benefit from the fact that urban open world games have had only GTA V for something like 10 years now.

On the Xbox 360, when the first saints row came out, everyone was hungry for this type of game, and Volition beat Rockstar to the market for that generation. At the very least, I think people are craving something fresh now.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Don Rumata on October 25, 2021, 10:05:21 PM
And 3 watch dogs, Just Cause, hell, even Cyberpunk had that shit... but open world just isn't much of a rarified mechanic anymore.
I just think that very basic shooting mechanics and floaty arcade driving, in what looks like a pretty basic map, isn't going to be very exciting in 2021, for a lot of people.
I think the customization is the make-it-or-break-it element, because even Crackdown had something more to offer than basic driving&shooting.

It wouldn't surprise me if there were more people excited to play the remasters of GTA than this, tbh.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: chronovore on October 25, 2021, 11:21:16 PM
Cool! I can't wait to see which of us is correct.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: pilonv1 on October 25, 2021, 11:58:05 PM
As excited as I am for it, I do agree that it needs some sort of hook besides woke millenials as protagonists, which was something they did well with the previous titles. Part of me hopes they're holding something back but it's missing something over the top that has been a characteristic of previous titles.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Borealis on October 26, 2021, 02:45:46 AM
Was pointed out elsewhere, but one thing I hope they address is that parts of SR3 and especially SR4 story missions just felt like pseudo activities or intros/tutorials to them. By moving that to property acqusitions, I hope these missions end up being closer to the SR2 side of things, emphasis on stakes and mechanics etc. you wouldn't find in activities or the open world.

It is surprising to see the lack of videos about protag customisation. This has always been something SR smashed other open worlds out of the park with, and I think there's really not enough showing or talking about it from Volition. Seriously.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Don Rumata on October 26, 2021, 07:44:48 PM
Cool! I can't wait to see which of us is correct.
Just for the record tho, i don't wish for this to fail or anything, infact i'll play it most likely, once it's on sale (or on gamepass).
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: benjipwns on October 26, 2021, 08:17:51 PM
I'm also very meh on it, but I also haven't really played anything open world like this since Saints Row: Gat Out of Hell except for Just Cause 3. So I'm still looking forward to it (on Steam) just because of Volition's track record.

My problem with the SJW-Woke-Millennial gang thing is not, like Nintex, that it's any of those things but just that it looks like a boring execution of those things. What they've shown so far plays the trope almost entirely straight rather than as the setup for jokes about the gang and 2-3-4 were all jokes about the gang except The Boss, and the joke about The Boss was basically how serious and straight-forward they remained as all these insane things happened. I'm hoping that that stuff is in the game though, before The Third came out we didn't know any of the comedic hooks for Oleg and Kinsey and they were only shown as straight-forward characters. It'd be a real misfire for them to make the major three non-player characters be so lame by trying to make us think they're cool.

I should probably play more (than the hour I have) Agents of Mayhem to see how they handled the characters in that, my initial impressions were that they were trying too hard to make you like every character and think they're cool.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Don Rumata on October 26, 2021, 09:20:28 PM
Humor is dead, my dude.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on October 27, 2021, 07:50:45 AM
This is going to be a Lawbreakers-tier bomba, mark my words. It's just so fucking sterile.
It may turn out just fine... but that release window.  :whew Good luck with that, Volition. 
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Kurt Russell on October 27, 2021, 07:52:07 AM
They need to model the new Saints on Era staff.

A crew comprising Cerium, Nep Nep, Slayven and Morrigan?  :lawd
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: TaySan on October 27, 2021, 11:50:17 PM
I'm happy the old activities are returning again.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: chronovore on October 30, 2021, 12:00:29 AM
It would be interesting if the day/night cycle is used to make shops open/closed again, including the ability to rob them at night, like SR1.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 30, 2021, 12:06:11 AM
I think it will benefit from the fact that urban open world games have had only GTA V for something like 10 years now.

On the Xbox 360, when the first saints row came out, everyone was hungry for this type of game, and Volition beat Rockstar to the market for that generation. At the very least, I think people are craving something fresh now.
Sole reason I'm interested. I don't care about the woke vs anti-woke debate here, but I have wanted a GTA3 style urban open-world game for a long time.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Borealis on November 17, 2021, 12:36:35 AM
https://saintsrow.com/news/saints-update-from-jim-boone

Delayed to August 2022.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on November 17, 2021, 02:25:09 AM
Rest assured, there will not be any changes to the story or the characters or anything that we’ve lovingly imagined over the last few years and already shared with you.

Well thank god couldnt imagine losing them
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: pilonv1 on November 17, 2021, 04:11:27 AM
Probably for the best.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Kurt Russell on November 17, 2021, 05:44:15 AM
https://saintsrow.com/news/saints-update-from-jim-boone

Delayed to August 2022.

They need a little more time to polish up the taking-the-knee mini game.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on November 17, 2021, 06:34:36 AM
Most definitely for the better.  Polish my ass, they simply don't want to release in the shadow of Horizon 2 and Elden Ring.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: tiesto on November 17, 2021, 09:40:49 AM
They need to model the new Saints on Era staff.

A crew comprising Cerium, Nep Nep, Slayven and Morrigan?  :lawd

Does Cerium disappear shortly into the game only to reappear at the end and sell your team out?
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 17, 2021, 10:44:36 AM
this delay for that amount of time is a bit odd, the game doesn't really look like much more than a reskin of saints row 3 for the most part gameplay/animations wise :doge
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Nintex on November 17, 2021, 01:37:12 PM
Quote
Saints Row will no longer release on the originally announced date of 25th February 2022, instead it will launch worldwide on 23rd August 2022.
Translation: "We never thought we'd make this date but thanks for the pre-order money suckers"

Quote
Our priority is to create the best Saints Row game yet and, if we released on the original date, it wouldn’t be up to the standards we’ve set ourselves, and that you’re expecting and deserve. The team just need more time to do our vision justice; we’re doing some fine tuning and there won’t be much change in the game outside of overall quality and polish.
Translation: "This game is a hot mess, we'll salvage what we can but you bought GTA Trilogy right?"

Quote
In all honesty, we underestimated the impact COVID would have on our schedule, although everyone adapted very quickly to the working from home arrangement and continued to be incredibly productive.
Translation: "QA was left idle on ZOOM calls the devs forgot about. It was a big fucking mess and there was no direction. People suddenly left because they could work from home for any company they wanted"

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However, due to the size and scope of our new Saints Row, it’s become apparent that to create the best game possible, we need to give our team longer to perfect their craft.
Translation: "We have to cut some stuff, how the hell is this going to run on Xbox One?"

Quote
As mentioned when we announced Saints Row in August, this will be the biggest and best Saints Row game ever and, in order to achieve our goal, we’ve settled upon a generous, yet essential amount of time to realise our ambitions.
Translation: "We have no idea how long this is going to take or what the end result will be like"

Quote
Rest assured, there will not be any changes to the story or the characters or anything that we’ve lovingly imagined over the last few years and already shared with you.
Translation: "What's done is done I guess" 

Quote
Over the past two years, all corners of the entertainment industry have been affected/impacted in one way or another. As gamers ourselves, we know what it feels like to have something delayed which you’ve been looking forward to; it’s frustrating and you feel disappointed. But we also know that when we finally get Saints Row in your hands, it will have been worth the wait. It’s our absolute priority to get this right.
Translation: "Maybe we can salvage this thing with a day one patch or maybe not if you have to wait long enough you'll buy it anyway" 

Quote
Keep it strange,
Jim
Translation: "Cool tag line huh, I came up with that"  8)
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: benjipwns on November 17, 2021, 03:50:11 PM
Kinda odd that they're only just now supposedly having to deal with the ramifications of COVID compared to three months ago when they announced the February date. I guess I had assumed this game had already been in development for like three years or so.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Don Rumata on November 17, 2021, 04:08:02 PM
I mean has any developer ever admitted of delaying because they'd get crushed by other releases? Besides more time is always a good thing from the polishing pov.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 17, 2021, 04:13:31 PM
I don't think its that, they'd have just pushed it to March/April if they wanted to get out of the way of other shit :trumps
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: BIONIC on November 17, 2021, 04:17:38 PM
They needed more time to fine tune the ‘cry yourself to sleep while your wife gets smashed by a BBC bull’ mini game.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Don Rumata on November 17, 2021, 04:20:18 PM
I don't think its that, they'd have just pushed it to March/April if they wanted to get out of the way of other shit :trumps
Why not both.
Open world games in particular needing extra time for polish isn't a wild idea anyway, but they probably weren't too sad about exiting the mortar fire.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 17, 2021, 04:24:10 PM
Haven't the last few volition games been mediocre to bad? I mean even Saints Row 4 was kinda shitty even if it was fun enough. I imagine its because shit sux big time.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: benjipwns on November 17, 2021, 04:25:14 PM
Saints Row IV was amazing. :ufup
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: chronovore on November 18, 2021, 04:49:23 AM
One was a surprise, including wack multiplayer.
Two was coop based but shipped with broken netcode.  :doge
Once it was fixed:
 :woooo
Sceneman and I played through all the co-op activities together. GOOD TIMES.

Three was amazing. Looked great. New engine had a great look.
Four was mind blowing. :dizzy
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on April 14, 2022, 11:39:06 AM
Still six days away, but still... 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVhu1iz4AvM

This will be the make or break for me... Best ROW it up, fuckers!

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/MO9ARnIhzxnxu/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on April 14, 2022, 11:56:49 AM
If its still a bunch of cringeworthy indie fucks taking themselves seriously I dont care

Also epic exclusive bluergh  :yuck
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: who is ted danson? on April 14, 2022, 12:02:56 PM
Forgot this existed until the bump  :lol
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 14, 2022, 12:59:42 PM
Same :ohhh
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: pilonv1 on April 15, 2022, 12:12:20 AM
I've got a bunch of steam credit to use, forgot this was EGS exclusive and out this soon. They really didn't have a hook did they
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on April 20, 2022, 03:59:07 PM
https://youtu.be/FVhu1iz4AvM

Start to get really excited and get oldschool Row vibes...  Then I see Jim Robs and get reminded of the world we live in now.   :stahp

But damn...  I love me a stupid amount of customization in games.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 20, 2022, 04:29:46 PM
If it's still fun, I don't care if they woke it up. I'm just worried it won't be fun. Remember Agents of Mayhem? (that's a joke, no one remembers Agents of Mayhem)
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 20, 2022, 04:40:11 PM
I wish they'd have some fun with the the road they've taken.

Why not add a gang called Surf and TERF. They're rampant transphobic surfer dudes that hate the boss for being non-binary. Nah, instead we get the same three gangs from Saints Row 3 but less funny.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: who is ted danson? on April 22, 2022, 07:35:42 AM
If it's still fun, I don't care if they woke it up. I'm just worried it won't be fun. Remember Agents of Mayhem? (that's a joke, no one remembers Agents of Mayhem)

Agents of Mayhem is the Fuse of the PS4 gen
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Kurt Russell on April 29, 2022, 04:26:39 AM
Start to get really excited and get oldschool Row vibes...  Then I see Jim Robs and get reminded of the world we live in now.   :stahp

You just know that on day 1, someone from GamerGate will mod the OG names back in

spoiler (click to show/hide)
and probably some titties too
[close]
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Beezy on May 19, 2022, 05:56:27 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekp84UHzpe0
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: bork on June 07, 2022, 08:09:37 PM
https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2022/06/06/free-saints-row-customization-game-soon/amp/

Looks like they're going to release a character editor to play around with, just like with Saints Row 3.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on June 07, 2022, 08:46:16 PM
https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2022/06/06/free-saints-row-customization-game-soon/amp/

Looks like they're going to release a character editor to play around with, just like with Saints Row 3.
This is a good sign... Well, at least for me.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: chronovore on June 09, 2022, 07:35:00 PM
 :o
https://bossfactory.saintsrow.com/
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: The Sceneman on June 09, 2022, 07:42:29 PM
https://youtu.be/FVhu1iz4AvM

Start to get really excited and get oldschool Row vibes...  Then I see Jim Robs and get reminded of the world we live in now.   :stahp

But damn...  I love me a stupid amount of customization in games.

Jim Robs is the same joke, maybe even funnier? I dont get why chuds are up in arms over this
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on June 09, 2022, 09:00:12 PM
:o
https://bossfactory.saintsrow.com/
Gonna mess around with this tomorrow... I assume you'll be able to transfer the save to the main game?
https://youtu.be/FVhu1iz4AvM

Start to get really excited and get oldschool Row vibes...  Then I see Jim Robs and get reminded of the world we live in now.   :stahp

But damn...  I love me a stupid amount of customization in games.

Jim Robs is the same joke, maybe even funnier? I dont get why chuds are up in arms over this
Just seemed unnecessary from the outside; like them trying to not piss off certain folks... Not like it's going to be a Teen rated game.  Keep it raw.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 10, 2022, 07:59:51 AM
Jim Robs is the same joke, maybe even funnier?

:huh

a rim job is a colloquialism for analingus, but naming a car customisation shops that might imply that they will do a job on your rims, as in that is their specialisation.
It is a pun.

Jim Robs suggests nothing about the type of business it might be, and the only implication is that the owner Jim might be a thief.


If you had a fictional garden tools shop and you called it "Cheap Hoes", you would be making a business that plausibly does what the name implies, but also punning on a more common usage of the phrase.

If you then renamed it "Heap Choes" its not the same joke. Its not funnier.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Nintex on June 10, 2022, 03:00:51 PM
The new trailers looked better than before, more Saints Row-ey
Maybe the delay did it some good.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on June 10, 2022, 03:19:04 PM
I've been getting a bit more excited about this again... After playing a bunch of serious games, I'm ready to let loose, goof off and beat people down with a giant dildo.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on June 11, 2022, 04:47:50 AM
Boss Factory is pretty awesome.  While it doesn't have the hair tweaking details that Black Desert has, it definitely has a multitude of categories that kept me smiling. ...Bobbing my head with some solid tracks too.  Every game with a character creator needs to offer this moving forward.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Bebpo on June 12, 2022, 06:47:11 PM
I feel like SR6 gonna benefit from that it's been a billion years since GTAV and there hasn't been any GTA-likes on the market in forever outside Watchdogs Legion which was weak. Unlike certain crowded genres, it's been enough years that a good GTA-like would feel fresh again.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on June 12, 2022, 07:01:05 PM
I feel like SR6 gonna benefit from that it's been a billion years since GTAV and there hasn't been any GTA-likes on the market in forever outside Watchdogs Legion which was weak. Unlike certain crowded genres, it's been enough years that a good GTA-like would feel fresh again.
For me it does feel like the timing of it's release is a sweet spot.  With all the fantasy, horror and space games flooding the market currently, this may feel old school fresh again..  My optimism for this has been slowly increasing again.  I just hope they have zany shit like driving the cougar around type missions. 

Tweaked my bitch up and uploaded to share.  I need to snag a screen shot next time.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on June 12, 2022, 07:03:22 PM
I feel like SR6 gonna benefit from that it's been a billion years since GTAV and there hasn't been any GTA-likes on the market in forever outside Watchdogs Legion which was weak. Unlike certain crowded genres, it's been enough years that a good GTA-like would feel fresh again.

Too bad its EGS exclusive so say goodbye to a big PC crowd
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Bebpo on June 12, 2022, 07:17:34 PM
I feel like SR6 gonna benefit from that it's been a billion years since GTAV and there hasn't been any GTA-likes on the market in forever outside Watchdogs Legion which was weak. Unlike certain crowded genres, it's been enough years that a good GTA-like would feel fresh again.

Too bad its EGS exclusive so say goodbye to a big PC crowd

Shit, that sucks.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on June 12, 2022, 07:37:00 PM
It does but hopefully it comes DRM free so I can at least pirate it  :yeshrug
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: chronovore on June 12, 2022, 07:45:17 PM
Like bebsy said, this is coming in on the end of a long OWG draught for many of us. I've literally played GTA V start to finish on 3 generations of console: 360, PS4, PS5. I was slow to finish Red Dead, but even that as a western is different than urban crime run-and-gun. I am excited for this.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: bork on June 13, 2022, 07:31:58 AM
Some things appear to have been toned-down from that character editor app, but not by that much.  Seems like that's kind of how the whole game will be compared to the previous entries. 

Will likely get it unless initial impressions are bad before or right at launch.

I feel like SR6 gonna benefit from that it's been a billion years since GTAV and there hasn't been any GTA-likes on the market in forever outside Watchdogs Legion which was weak. Unlike certain crowded genres, it's been enough years that a good GTA-like would feel fresh again.

Too bad its EGS exclusive so say goodbye to a big PC crowd

Shit, that sucks.

1. It's a timed-exclusive.

2. It really doesn't matter- unless you want to play it on a Steam Deck at launch, I guess?  Or if you just have an endless hate-boner like MMaRsu.   :P
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on June 13, 2022, 07:50:33 AM
I dont shop at a store run by uber hypocrite and cunt tim sweeney but ok

Exclusive trash. Ill wait till its a tenner on steam, devs dont deserve more for their exclusivity deal.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: bork on June 13, 2022, 08:06:44 AM
I dont shop at a store run by uber hypocrite and cunt tim sweeney but ok

:snore

Exclusive trash. Ill wait till its a tenner on steam, devs dont deserve more for their exclusivity deal.

Or will you get it on a Epic account like you did with Tony Hawk?  :doge
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on June 13, 2022, 08:40:08 AM
I dont shop at a store run by uber hypocrite and cunt tim sweeney but ok

:snore

Exclusive trash. Ill wait till its a tenner on steam, devs dont deserve more for their exclusivity deal.

Or will you get it on a Epic account like you did with Tony Hawk?  :doge

Well yeah and no, I bought that from some russian hackers, and in turn I changed the pw so they couldnt use it anymore lmao.

Not the best route to go, but since fucking Tony Hawk Remake still isnt on any other platform.... I mean what could I do? Its still not available elsewhere, not even cracked.

I have never spent a cent on EGS and never will.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on June 13, 2022, 10:00:43 AM
Spent another minute on Boss Factory... and I'm starting to realize some things that it's missing that's starting to annoy me... Is there not going to be a anything regarding editing your posture, idle animation or walk animation??  I want my vixen to flaunt it with a catwalk style walk with some jiggle.  This could be a deal breaker.   
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: bork on June 13, 2022, 10:23:52 AM
\Not the best route to go, but since fucking Tony Hawk Remake still isnt on any other platform.... I mean what could I do? Its still not available elsewhere, not even cracked.

Buy it with a legit account or on a console.

I have never spent a cent on EGS and never will.

OK.  Keep missing out on all the free games they give out, bullshit-free, all the time.  We've had this discussion before on here.  I prefer to get games on Steam, but there's multiple storefronts out there and Epic isn't any different than the likes of Origin, UPlay, Battle.Net, etc.  I'll likely get this game on EGS over a console.  It's not a big deal.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on June 13, 2022, 11:44:35 AM
\Not the best route to go, but since fucking Tony Hawk Remake still isnt on any other platform.... I mean what could I do? Its still not available elsewhere, not even cracked.

Buy it with a legit account or on a console.

I have never spent a cent on EGS and never will.

OK.  Keep missing out on all the free games they give out, bullshit-free, all the time.  We've had this discussion before on here.  I prefer to get games on Steam, but there's multiple storefronts out there and Epic isn't any different than the likes of Origin, UPlay, Battle.Net, etc.  I'll likely get this game on EGS over a console.  It's not a big deal.

I dont care about the free games man, I have so many games Ill never have the time to play them all. Also 90% of their free games, I already have. Epic is different, they tie up games to be exclusive to their storefront. Origin doesnt do that, Uplay doesnt do that, Battle.net doesnt do that (Im talking about third party games not developed by those companies). I dont want to support that.

I dont have a current gen console at the moment so that option is out. I will buy any EGS exclusive if it comes to Steam later, and it's good and I have interest in it. I just dont want to spend anything on a guy calling out "walled gardens" but in the meantime making his own walled garden of his own.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: bork on June 13, 2022, 11:50:07 AM
\Not the best route to go, but since fucking Tony Hawk Remake still isnt on any other platform.... I mean what could I do? Its still not available elsewhere, not even cracked.

Buy it with a legit account or on a console.

I have never spent a cent on EGS and never will.

OK.  Keep missing out on all the free games they give out, bullshit-free, all the time.  We've had this discussion before on here.  I prefer to get games on Steam, but there's multiple storefronts out there and Epic isn't any different than the likes of Origin, UPlay, Battle.Net, etc.  I'll likely get this game on EGS over a console.  It's not a big deal.

I dont care about the free games man, I have so many games Ill never have the time to play them all. Also 90% of their free games, I already have. Epic is different, they tie up games to be exclusive to their storefront. Origin doesnt do that, Uplay doesnt do that, Battle.net doesnt do that (Im talking about third party games not developed by those companies). I dont want to support that.

I dont have a current gen console at the moment so that option is out. I will buy any EGS exclusive if it comes to Steam later, and it's good and I have interest in it. I just dont want to spend anything on a guy calling out "walled gardens" but in the meantime making his own walled garden of his own.

"I don't want to support THE EVIL EPIC, but I will pirate games instead!"  OK.  Really supporting those developers!

Who cares whether or not it's third-part or not?  If you want to play all the games available on PC, you have to use multiple storefronts.  If you don't like that, get a console- oh wait, they have exclusive third-party releases too.
:idont

Also, while it's nice to see EA put their games on Steam again, don't you need to still have Origin to play them?  Ditto for the Ubi games.  So boot up Steam to then boot up another storefront to then play the game.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on June 13, 2022, 11:59:25 AM
Reading that they weren't currently planning to add to the character creator (for free).  The more things are brought to my attention about it, the more disappointed I'm becoming with it.  Where's the variety of tattoos and tattoo placement?? Elden Ring let you slide and scale tatoos around, but they just get plopped on here.  Forget all the goofy emotes... Where's actual gameplay moving animations?? Why not have an option on how you hold your weapons? No stylized way of a reload animation? No sitting posture? No jiggle option? No tongue option?  There's a small bit of nipple options, but they're horrible.  No body piercing options? Cyberpunk and Elden Ring do it better still... Why bother touting so much "variety" when it's all just clothes... That you'll be swapping out constantly in game anyways? (At least I know I will).

 I dunno bros.... My initial reaction was having fun, but spending more time with it, it feels as dated as a PS2 game in it's options..  Even SR2 had different options for walk animations... I want my female supermodel walk... If it's not there, you can forget it. :nope
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on June 13, 2022, 12:00:19 PM
\Not the best route to go, but since fucking Tony Hawk Remake still isnt on any other platform.... I mean what could I do? Its still not available elsewhere, not even cracked.

Buy it with a legit account or on a console.

I have never spent a cent on EGS and never will.

OK.  Keep missing out on all the free games they give out, bullshit-free, all the time.  We've had this discussion before on here.  I prefer to get games on Steam, but there's multiple storefronts out there and Epic isn't any different than the likes of Origin, UPlay, Battle.Net, etc.  I'll likely get this game on EGS over a console.  It's not a big deal.

I dont care about the free games man, I have so many games Ill never have the time to play them all. Also 90% of their free games, I already have. Epic is different, they tie up games to be exclusive to their storefront. Origin doesnt do that, Uplay doesnt do that, Battle.net doesnt do that (Im talking about third party games not developed by those companies). I dont want to support that.

I dont have a current gen console at the moment so that option is out. I will buy any EGS exclusive if it comes to Steam later, and it's good and I have interest in it. I just dont want to spend anything on a guy calling out "walled gardens" but in the meantime making his own walled garden of his own.

"I don't want to support THE EVIL EPIC, but I will pirate games instead!"  OK.  Really supporting those developers!

Who cares whether or not it's third-part or not?  If you want to play all the games available on PC, you have to use multiple storefronts.  If you don't like that, get a console- oh wait, they have exclusive third-party releases too.
:idont

Also, while it's nice to see EA put their games on Steam again, don't you need to still have Origin to play them?  Ditto for the Ubi games.  So boot up Steam to then boot up another storefront to then play the game.

Wrong. You shouldnt have to. That's what Epic is trying to enforce. Most if not all publishers have already returned to Steam. I am trying to not support that "multiple launcher is a neccesity" bs.

And yes, I would rather pirate games than buy them on Epic Games Store. The developers chose themselves to align on that store, they know the consequences of barely any sales on EGS. EGS games barely sell. Their ROI is horrible.

But Tim Sweeney gives them a big sack of money to pay for their exclusivity. Im fine with that, and I hope they are fine with me pirating their game untill I can purchase it on a launcher that I trust, have put my money towards and have built a library on.

Yes I have some games on Uplay. Yes I have some games on Origin. But those are publisher only games that were exclusive to that launcher because they themselves developed the game. I'm fine with that (although I see more positives to put the game on all launchers).

If developers want to succeed, and spread their chances, increase their userbase, then it might be smarter to not launch exclusively on EGS. But instead launch on all platforms!

Wasnt Tim Sweeney's big thing about choice being important? Wouldnt his 'exclusives' give more back to the consumer? Cheaper games? I have seen none of that. In fact I have seen games stay at their high price (Kingdom Hearts) because they are only available on EGS. Fuck all that bro.

PC space shouldnt splinter like the console space. It never was that way, and it shouldnt be that way.

Going pretty offtopic in all this but hey. I have all Saints Row games on Steam. Why would I want to get the fifth one somewhere else?
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 13, 2022, 12:06:08 PM
Jim Robs is the same joke, maybe even funnier?

:huh

a rim job is a colloquialism for analingus, but naming a car customisation shops that might imply that they will do a job on your rims, as in that is their specialisation.
It is a pun.

Jim Robs suggests nothing about the type of business it might be, and the only implication is that the owner Jim might be a thief.


If you had a fictional garden tools shop and you called it "Cheap Hoes", you would be making a business that plausibly does what the name implies, but also punning on a more common usage of the phrase.

If you then renamed it "Heap Choes" its not the same joke. Its not funnier.

Okay, I guess we know who the rising fourth-year PHD student in comedy school is. :badass
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: bork on June 13, 2022, 01:15:18 PM
Wrong. You shouldnt have to. That's what Epic is trying to enforce. Most if not all publishers have already returned to Steam. I am trying to not support that "multiple launcher is a neccesity" bs.

Again, do you not still need to launch Origin and UPlay to play those publishers' games on Steam?

And yes, I would rather pirate games than buy them on Epic Games Store. The developers chose themselves to align on that store, they know the consequences of barely any sales on EGS. EGS games barely sell. Their ROI is horrible.

How do you know these games aren't selling well enough?  Moreover, Epic is giving them a shitload of money to do this.

If developers want to succeed, and spread their chances, increase their userbase, then it might be smarter to not launch exclusively on EGS. But instead launch on all platforms!

They do launch on all platforms.  This game is coming to Steam later.

Wasnt Tim Sweeney's big thing about choice being important? Wouldnt his 'exclusives' give more back to the consumer? Cheaper games? I have seen none of that. In fact I have seen games stay at their high price (Kingdom Hearts) because they are only available on EGS. Fuck all that bro.

Who cares what PR bullshit Tim Sweeney spewed out?  If there's something that comes on EGS that I want, that isn't on Steam, I'll get it on there.  You do have the choice to wait for Saints Row to come out on Steam in however long and purchase it on there.

Is Kingdom Hearts' high price because of Epic...or Square?

PC space shouldnt splinter like the console space. It never was that way, and it shouldnt be that way.


It has always been this way since these digital storefronts became a thing.  It's great to see more publishers putting their games on everything, but exclusives are a thing and they will happen.

Going pretty offtopic in all this but hey. I have all Saints Row games on Steam. Why would I want to get the fifth one somewhere else?

What difference does it make?   Add a non-Steam game shortcut inside Steam if it bothers you that much. 

I get it, you hate Epic.  You've been beating that dead horse in multiple threads over the last few years, man. 
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on June 13, 2022, 01:29:50 PM
Then I dont know why you are grilling me on it lol. Like I said I buy the games when they come to Steam eventually. I just find it annoying as fuck to gatekeep/hold hostage PC games for an entire year on a dumb storefront.

How do I know they arent selling well?

Look at the numbers Epic had put out their year over year profits have barely gone up despite securing multiple big exclusives. It's just an annoying cumbersome bullshit that we shouldnt have to deal with, and im not gonna support that type of business. If you do, thats you. I wouldnt want to purchase anything from such a corrupt venture.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: bork on June 13, 2022, 02:44:59 PM
Quote from: MMaRsu
How do I know they arent selling well?

Look at the numbers Epic had put out their year over year profits have barely gone up despite securing multiple big exclusives. It's just an annoying cumbersome bullshit that we shouldnt have to deal with, and im not gonna support that type of business. If you do, thats you. I wouldnt want to purchase anything from such a corrupt venture.

When I google it, I see that Epic themselves doesn't expect their store to become profitable until at least 2025 and that they can afford to keep losing money with all the cash they're throwing at exclusives:

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/04/how-long-can-epic-afford-to-throw-money-at-the-epic-games-store/
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But it's also a gamble Epic Games is perfectly equipped to shoulder, for the time being. That's largely because of Fortnite, a game that was still reportedly making $400 million in revenue per month as of last April, nearly three years after its launch. Epic's willingness to take risks is also due to the Unreal Engine, which brings in a 5 percent royalty on sales from dozens of blockbuster games ranging from Yoshi's Crafted World to Mortal Kombat 11.

Put those together, and you have a company making $3.85 billion dollars in gross profit on $9.625 billion in revenue, according to court documents. For a company like that, spending a few years and nearly a billion dollars in losses on a new PC gaming storefront probably feels like dropping pocket change in the tip jar.

I don't see anything they are doing that is any "worse" than any other big-ass vidya corporation.  How DARE they try to get people to go buy things from their storefront!  Look at those scumbags giving away full games!
 :brain
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on June 13, 2022, 03:04:08 PM
Them giving away free games is just an enticement to get you in their platform. Like I said, I have plenty of games and most of their free offerings I already have.

I wont scorn anyone for using their store, but I dont see how you can be so flippant about it. Its clear cut greed, doesnt give consumers more options, and is in fact in every way a downside for the consumer.

No clue why youd go batting for that kind of corporate greed.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: mormapope on June 13, 2022, 03:11:01 PM
I think its more so that the crusade against Epic is akin to platform warring for consoles. Valve is privately owned and has more competent staff for designing features for their storefront/launcher and maintaining their store.

Thats.....the main difference between Valve and Epic.  :lol
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on June 13, 2022, 03:30:07 PM
Well that and they arent picky who gets to be on their storefront, and dont hold them exclusively on their platform because they bought out the rights. I just dont like that. I love if games are available everywhere. Make then cheaper on EGS to battle steam. Sadly they dont do that
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: bork on June 13, 2022, 09:48:28 PM
Them giving away free games is just an enticement to get you in their platform. Like I said, I have plenty of games and most of their free offerings I already have.

I wont scorn anyone for using their store, but I dont see how you can be so flippant about it. Its clear cut greed, doesnt give consumers more options, and is in fact in every way a downside for the consumer.

No clue why youd go batting for that kind of corporate greed.

If nothing else, I'm benefiting from EGS by getting free games.  I'm not stanning for them -I much prefer Steam- but I don't see anything about them that entails constant shitting on them, either.  That's all.

I think its more so that the crusade against Epic is akin to platform warring for consoles.

 :hesright
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: benjipwns on June 13, 2022, 09:58:05 PM
Saints Row IV was like the last game I ever preordered. Not buying anything on EGS full price, not even Saints Row, sorry, not sorry. :elon :trumps

Will take all the free stuff Tim wants to give though. :yeshrug

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Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: pilonv1 on June 13, 2022, 11:55:04 PM
I've got $70 in steam credit to use, that's the only reason I'm waiting. Could see this easily being 50% off in a month
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 14, 2022, 12:32:37 PM
Okay, I guess we know who the rising fourth-year PHD student in comedy school is. :badass

I dunno why they changed the name, Rim Jobs is puerile but inoffensive :idont

Quote from: MMaRsu
How do I know they arent selling well?

Look at the numbers Epic had put out their year over year profits have barely gone up despite securing multiple big exclusives. It's just an annoying cumbersome bullshit that we shouldnt have to deal with, and im not gonna support that type of business. If you do, thats you. I wouldnt want to purchase anything from such a corrupt venture.

When I google it, I see that Epic themselves doesn't expect their store to become profitable until at least 2025 and that they can afford to keep losing money with all the cash they're throwing at exclusives:

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/04/how-long-can-epic-afford-to-throw-money-at-the-epic-games-store/
Quote
But it's also a gamble Epic Games is perfectly equipped to shoulder, for the time being. That's largely because of Fortnite, a game that was still reportedly making $400 million in revenue per month as of last April, nearly three years after its launch. Epic's willingness to take risks is also due to the Unreal Engine, which brings in a 5 percent royalty on sales from dozens of blockbuster games ranging from Yoshi's Crafted World to Mortal Kombat 11.

Put those together, and you have a company making $3.85 billion dollars in gross profit on $9.625 billion in revenue, according to court documents. For a company like that, spending a few years and nearly a billion dollars in losses on a new PC gaming storefront probably feels like dropping pocket change in the tip jar.

I don't see anything they are doing that is any "worse" than any other big-ass vidya corporation.  How DARE they try to get people to go buy things from their storefront!  Look at those scumbags giving away full games!
 :brain

I think its at least partly that they came out moaning about how much cash valve were making as a storefront for doing fuck all in return, like they were diddling hard work indies out of nickels and cents, but when push comes to shove their own storefront offering a fraction of the services steam does can't stay afloat on its own terms and also passes zero savings onto customers
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on June 15, 2022, 08:11:24 AM
Since there's no cockney/british boss I dont see how this game can be any better than previous Saints games anyway 😵‍💫
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 15, 2022, 09:34:19 AM
Should have the joke voice be Chris Pratt.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: thetylerrob on June 17, 2022, 01:35:17 AM
Since there's no cockney/british boss I dont see how this game can be any better than previous Saints games anyway 😵‍💫
What the fuck are they thinking with this game? smh
 :picard
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on July 22, 2022, 04:49:53 PM
There's been some hands-on previews dropping...  Almost all say it's a blend of Row 2 & 3.  I'm still hesitant, but it could really be something special...  I dunno, it's hard not to feel some nastolgic feels they keep tickling.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 23, 2022, 07:49:07 PM
Looks pretty good so far, dunno if I’ll get it at launch though. Put that shit on Gamepass and I’ll play tf out of it.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: pilonv1 on August 01, 2022, 03:13:35 AM
https://twitter.com/maniadrone/status/1553982834121097216
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on August 01, 2022, 07:13:57 AM
https://youtu.be/C4sqs5MG37s

😂😂😂 It looks so bad
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 01, 2022, 09:02:46 AM
i hope thats from a year old build because it looks like straight doo doo, that voice actor sux too :shaq2
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: mormapope on August 01, 2022, 12:19:27 PM
As someone that plays the majority of single player open world games, and the first three Saints Row games to completion, this looks like a 6/10 type of game.

This game probably needed a much larger budget to implement bigger scale and better production values. There's not much here that differentiates itself from open world games in the 360/PS3 gen, and it looks less focused than previous Saints Row games.



Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 01, 2022, 01:15:40 PM
Seems like the best way to play that Depression mission is to just kill yourself, so you don't have to play through the rest of the game.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Nintex on August 01, 2022, 02:36:15 PM
That footage looks to be the last gen version.

At least, that's what I assume going by the performance.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 01, 2022, 03:16:42 PM
Saints Row peaked with 2 it seems.

Don’t really know what they are thinking with this one. It has bomb written all over it and created people not in touch with any audience.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on August 01, 2022, 03:28:47 PM
It really reminds me of Dead Rising 4

Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Nintex on August 01, 2022, 03:52:38 PM
Saints Row peaked with 2 it seems.

Don’t really know what they are thinking with this one. It has bomb written all over it and created people not in touch with any audience.
As much as this is true, the release schedule is rather empty this year. I can see it do well because there isn't much else out there.
With many games delayed the only game I can think of that is somewhat in this lane is Gotham Knights and that ships in October.
There is no Ubisoft open world to compete with.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on August 01, 2022, 04:26:56 PM
I'm still bothered by the character creator... Where's the walking animation selections like SR2 had?  Not these Fortnite based distinguished mentally-challenged emotes..  If the Boss Factory really is the final build of the creator, that unisex walk animation makes me want to slash my wrists. 

I can't help but to keep this on the radar though... I could use some dumb fun like SR.  I'll be anxious for reviews when they drop...
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on August 01, 2022, 04:30:45 PM
I bet there's not even a fucking pimp cane in this game

(https://i.imgur.com/jTtkCro.gif)
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on August 01, 2022, 04:34:53 PM
I bet there's not even a fucking pimp cane in this game

(https://i.imgur.com/jTtkCro.gif)
:lawd

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-Q1rehqhhE
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Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on August 01, 2022, 05:00:28 PM
I bet there's not even a fucking pimp cane in this game

(https://i.imgur.com/jTtkCro.gif)
:lawd

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-Q1rehqhhE
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https://youtu.be/okYZpiuvQi4

Not to mention

I think that might be the first time I actually heard DOOM

Saints Row 1 is underrated
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on August 01, 2022, 07:17:59 PM
Oh gawd, they're gonna butcher the music track selections on this game, aren't they....  I can't trust millennials' taste in music.  :existential
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 01, 2022, 08:01:46 PM
I've got a feeling that the critic and user score may wildly differ for this :titus

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not that it matters cos who truly cares what either Soy Suckman or Facts_and_logic45 think, but it always makes for an amusing .jpg
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Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Polident Hive on August 01, 2022, 10:04:28 PM
Had fun with gat out of hell. That’s where the bar is for me. Somehow these videos aren’t meeting my low standards :-\
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on August 02, 2022, 04:11:46 PM
I can't stop thinking about this game... Not sure if being overly optimistic or just too inflated on nostalgia.  :fbm  I want this game to be good so bad.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Borealis on August 03, 2022, 06:58:05 PM
I bet there's not even a fucking pimp cane in this game

(https://i.imgur.com/jTtkCro.gif)

This reminds me. As much as I love Saints Row 2, it's such a shame all the other characters and peds in it are technically based your character model and skeleton. Definitely had some characters looking wack (Julius comes to mind).
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: pilonv1 on August 11, 2022, 07:00:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3QcEQ2G2AA

Looks good but struggling to find a compelling reason to play it other than the name. Hopefully once it gets released someone will release some videos of the stupid stuff you can do because these trailers feel a bit forced.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 11, 2022, 07:27:18 AM
Have they released any sound track deets, that will be a big tell on what kind of budget they had to play with.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 11, 2022, 09:10:15 AM
Have they released any sound track deets, that will be a big tell on what kind of budget they had to play with.

Check Tasty's Public Domain thread in the Off-Topic side for a full list.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on August 11, 2022, 09:16:06 AM
I've literally been having dreams about this stupid game.  :existential They must be premonitions that I'm going to end up getting it regardless of reviews.

It releases on a Tuesday, old school style? lol  That's good for me...  I wouldn't be able to play it till the following friday, so that'll let some real reviews pop up by then.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 11, 2022, 09:23:30 AM
Have they released any sound track deets, that will be a big tell on what kind of budget they had to play with.

Check Tasty's Public Domain thread in the Off-Topic side for a full list.

I actually did before the joke clicked :tocry
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: bork on August 11, 2022, 09:42:53 AM
It releases on a Tuesday, old school style?

:confused
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on August 11, 2022, 10:01:21 AM
Have they released any sound track deets, that will be a big tell on what kind of budget they had to play with.

Check Tasty's Public Domain thread in the Off-Topic side for a full list.

I actually did before the joke clicked :tocry
Me too.  :doge  I'VE HAD ZERO SLEEP, OK?!?!?
It releases on a Tuesday, old school style?

:confused
Games would almost always release/ship on Tuesdays, remember?  With being more digital now and having more a larger presence like movies, they tend to release on Fridays moreso these days.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: bork on August 11, 2022, 07:46:49 PM
Have they released any sound track deets, that will be a big tell on what kind of budget they had to play with.

Check Tasty's Public Domain thread in the Off-Topic side for a full list.

I actually did before the joke clicked :tocry
Me too.  :doge  I'VE HAD ZERO SLEEP, OK?!?!?
It releases on a Tuesday, old school style?

:confused
Games would almost always release/ship on Tuesdays, remember?  With being more digital now and having more a larger presence like movies, they tend to release on Fridays moreso these days.

No?   :P. They come out mostly on Tuesdays, Thursdays, and some on Fridays now.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Bebpo on August 11, 2022, 08:41:24 PM
Everyone is so down on this, it sounds like it's either gonna be a pass or really surprise people.

I'd like to play a good new Saints Row, but will wait on see.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on August 11, 2022, 11:37:17 PM
Apparently your first drive through the intro has you bumping to A Tribe Called Quest.  :obama

Edit:
https://vgost.fandom.com/wiki/Saints_Row_(2022)
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So far confirmed tracks...

The Prodigy feat. Public Enemy - Shut ‘Em Up (not sure about this one but it was in the reveal trailer so it’s likely)

Delinquent Habits - Tres Delinquentes

M.O.P. - Ante Up (Robbin Hoodz Theory)

DMX - Party Up (Up In Here)

Onyx - Slam

KRS-One - Sound of Da Police

A Tribe Called Quest - I Left My Wallet In El Segundo

Other artists: TLC, Rozalia, artists from Nuclear Blast Records

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"Apparently those are the stations with their genres

Dos Ochos – classical Spanish and Mexican music

Santo Public Radio – classical orchestral music

Tumbleweed Radio – country music

The Drop – EDM music

The Cipher – rap music

Outrun – synth-pop music

Route Overdrive – rock and roll music

Flex – R&B music

El Latido – Spanish pop music

Nuclear Blast – metal music"
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: bork on August 12, 2022, 09:54:49 AM
Some good music in there. 

And that's great and all, but it won't matter if this game is crap.  Hoping it turns out well.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on August 12, 2022, 10:55:09 AM
Some good music in there. 

And that's great and all, but it won't matter if this game is crap.  Hoping it turns out well.
I've been obnoxiously optimistic about it lately...  I realize it's mostly nostalgia though...  However, I've been watching vids of SR2-4 lately and I can't help but feel this kinda goes in line with them gameplay-wise...  I just hope those side characters bring it and "evolve" to some zaniness(?) levels like Zimos.

Don't want to have to call out Volition like he would....
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/b2451e38dd41b90696f9c97bc7f7ab1f/tumblr_pvizrpylQH1qiotbqo2_500.gif)
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 12, 2022, 11:51:02 AM
I hope its good cos I could do with a new open world crime game, but from what I've seen so far I'll be waiting for reviews/impressions.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on August 12, 2022, 12:09:05 PM
Wish they'd give us info on the review embargo.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 12, 2022, 12:11:13 PM
lol I wouldn't be surprised if they wasn't sending out review copies.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: bork on August 12, 2022, 12:20:31 PM
Svejk, go check out videos of Agents Of Mayhem and see how you feel about post-SR4 Volition.

lol I wouldn't be surprised if they wasn't sending out review copies.

...Which might be a bad sign.  :-\
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on August 12, 2022, 12:38:19 PM
Svejk, go check out videos of Agents Of Mayhem and see how you feel about post-SR4 Volition.
Eh, I think they were definitely trying something else in terms of team battle crap that they could eventually monetize on, but it obviously wasn't what people wanted from them and failed, so it sounds like, so far, they got that from fans and are really trying to win them back.   So much so, that they had that one guy (that passed away unfortunately) that was working on an official SR2 patch, and are supposedly still working on picking up after him... Of course, it's all hands on deck on the reboot right now.    Who knows, this could be as good a reboot as Tomb Raider was, on a smaller scale of course.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 12, 2022, 02:29:40 PM
Svejk, go check out videos of Agents Of Mayhem and see how you feel about post-SR4 Volition.

lol I wouldn't be surprised if they wasn't sending out review copies.

...Which might be a bad sign.  :-\

I've got no info on the matter but was under the vague impresssion that mid tier pubs like thq or whoever the fuck is putting this out don't bother sending out review codes these days
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: paprikastaude on August 13, 2022, 01:07:19 AM
lol I wouldn't be surprised if they wasn't sending out review copies.

No, I got one - even for a site with basically no reach.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Nintex on August 13, 2022, 05:55:10 AM
lol I wouldn't be surprised if they wasn't sending out review copies.

No, I got one - even for a site with basically no reach.
Is it any good?
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 13, 2022, 10:10:13 AM
lol I wouldn't be surprised if they wasn't sending out review copies.

No, I got one - even for a site with basically no reach.

So I was talking rubbish then :doge

Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: benjipwns on August 13, 2022, 10:33:08 AM
lol I wouldn't be surprised if they wasn't sending out review copies.

No, I got one - even for a site with basically no reach.

So I was talking rubbish then :doge


I still believe in your lived experience, it was true for you and that's what really should matter.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: chronovore on August 15, 2022, 01:46:57 PM
I really want this to be good. I wouldn’t even mind if it was a throwback all the way to the first game, or stores have daytime business hours, but you can visit them at night and rob their safe. Hell, I even liked the drive-through church that would have your sins forgiven instead of a “pay and spray“ like GTA. Same function, different humor.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Trent Dole on August 16, 2022, 10:12:11 AM
Drops in exactly a week from today. :o
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 16, 2022, 10:54:39 AM
lol I wouldn't be surprised if they wasn't sending out review copies.

No, I got one - even for a site with basically no reach.
Is it any good?

The embargo is like 24 hours before release.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on August 16, 2022, 11:49:56 AM
Predicting 7's to low 80
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Uncle on August 16, 2022, 07:22:57 PM
80 from journalists, 60 from general audience
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on August 17, 2022, 08:05:42 PM
What's sad is that the journos are gonna give TLOU Remake Remaster a higher score than this.  :doge
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on August 18, 2022, 02:15:35 AM
Well thats a better game so...
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on August 18, 2022, 12:25:12 PM
Well thats a better game so...
(https://y.yarn.co/46130397-a709-45a9-bdcc-e13c06c0f0aa_text.gif)
seriously though, at this point, who hasn't played the game already?  It's the most pointless remaster yet.  I usually give Sony more credit than they deserve, but this "Remake" is a complete waste of time, money, and effort.  This isn't even arrogant soyny, this is straight up dumbshit soyny.  The reach-around for Druckman is fucking disgusting.  3 versions of TLOU, but nothing on Bloodborne yet?  This is a straight up Nintendo style dicking procedure.  (Let's dump 500 ass-tier looking pokemans on the smitch and just have 1 exclusive Zelda.)

Back to SR though, as much as I’d like to believe they delayed it due to Elden Ring and Horizon’s release window, it was a smart move.   I think the timing of the release, besides the above mentioned, couldn’t come at a better time.  Not only in gaming release schedules and the time between GTA 5 and 6 being so vast, this game may hit on some really fun chords for people in this particular day and age.   
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Uncle on August 18, 2022, 02:49:09 PM
I haven't played it and have no desire to

(https://i.imgur.com/Fa6dj1P.gif)
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: chronovore on August 18, 2022, 02:58:50 PM
I haven't played it and have no desire to

(https://i.imgur.com/Fa6dj1P.gif)

TLOU? I tried on PS3, again on PS4, and briefly considered trying again on PS5 but remembered how much I just got annoyed by shit in it. I'm happy to never revisit it.

Saints Row, OTOH, I'm mainly curious how they're going to rein it back in after where the series went. I'm ready for a more standard run-and-gun OWG now.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 20, 2022, 02:00:33 PM
Watching a stream right now. Guy tried to rob a store. Store owner is immortal and doesn't react to getting shot at.

Good stuff.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 20, 2022, 03:01:41 PM
ehhh tbf, even the biggest budget open world games have janky shit like that :elon
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 20, 2022, 03:11:07 PM
It seemed more like you can't rob a store. The streamer pulled up to a second store, shot a rocket launcher at the owner and nothing happened.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Nintex on August 20, 2022, 05:35:45 PM
That's because you have to pay with crypto so there's nothing to rob boomer  :like
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on August 21, 2022, 02:51:57 AM
https://youtu.be/GzVq2KfVAaA?t=81

 :cry rip robbing stores
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Trent Dole on August 21, 2022, 05:53:41 AM
I figure on pc people will mod 'jim robs' and all the other watered down stuff back to its original form in time, but putting robberies back in would be a different more complicated thing.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Uncle on August 21, 2022, 03:12:45 PM
I figure on pc people will mod 'jim robs' and all the other watered down stuff back to its original form in time, but putting robberies back in would be a different more complicated thing.

I'm not sure such mods will be able to be hosted on major mod sites, nexus recently declared war on problematic mods that try to remove this sort of window dressing
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 21, 2022, 03:42:24 PM
Idk what nexus mods are like verall tbf, but there is a difference between getting rid of the gay pride flag and reinserting some juvenile names for shops.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Uncle on August 21, 2022, 04:06:46 PM
both involve reverting the game to a perceived state of the way such games were in yesteryears, and both involve removing "good" and instating "bad"
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Post by: bork on August 21, 2022, 05:38:41 PM
I doubt that kind of stuff will be a problem.  I also doubt that there's going to be very much in the way of mods for this until it's out on Steam in a year or whenever it is...assuming the game is even good and anyone cares, that is.  :doge

I bit the bullet and pre-purchased it on Epic.  I'll take one for the team if it's shit.
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Post by: Svejk on August 21, 2022, 06:05:55 PM
I doubt that kind of stuff will be a problem.  I also doubt that there's going to be very much in the way of mods for this until it's out on Steam in a year or whenever it is...assuming the game is even good and anyone cares, that is.  :doge

I bit the bullet and pre-purchased it on Epic.  I'll take one for the team if it's shit.
Couldn't wait till tomorrow for some reviews at least?  :lol
spoiler (click to show/hide)
I probably will tomorrow too regardless  :doge
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Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 21, 2022, 06:42:29 PM
both involve reverting the game to a perceived state of the way such games were in yesteryears, and both involve removing "good" and instating "bad"

Nah mate I can't see someone modding back in lame joke names becoming the a part of the culture war tbh. Especially for a game that has a high potential of flopping anyway.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: bork on August 21, 2022, 09:40:53 PM
I doubt that kind of stuff will be a problem.  I also doubt that there's going to be very much in the way of mods for this until it's out on Steam in a year or whenever it is...assuming the game is even good and anyone cares, that is.  :doge

I bit the bullet and pre-purchased it on Epic.  I'll take one for the team if it's shit.
Couldn't wait till tomorrow for some reviews at least?  :lol
spoiler (click to show/hide)
I probably will tomorrow too regardless  :doge
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We got a bit of bonus cash and I decided to blow my share of it on this and Soul Hackers 2 pre-orders.  Otherwise wouldn't have bothered with the former at least.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on August 22, 2022, 06:01:01 AM
I doubt that kind of stuff will be a problem.  I also doubt that there's going to be very much in the way of mods for this until it's out on Steam in a year or whenever it is...assuming the game is even good and anyone cares, that is.  :doge

I bit the bullet and pre-purchased it on Epic.  I'll take one for the team if it's shit.

Even if the early reveal of Hipster Millenials as your squad hadn't had a large :-\ feedback, EGSclusivity hurts its initial success pretty badly.

Steam release day and date with Steam Workshop support could have made this huge as an easily moddable current gen sandbox, but obviously Epic wouldn't pay anything for that as the Steam version would be inherently superior. Even though Nexus mods hate steam workshop (as it means people don't go to nexus mods unless they only have a pirate copy) for an end user its huge, and keeps things relevant - see Xcoms longevity, or Skyrim prior to Bethesda killing steam workshop in favour of selling mods via the content creator club.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: pilonv1 on August 22, 2022, 06:46:24 AM
I have $70 of Steam credit waiting to be used from the motherboard I bought last year. I'd have pre-ordered this already if it was on Steam, but not spending more money I don't need to on this @ EGS unless it's even better than 2 or 3. Which I doubt will be the case. Fingers crossed bork

Someone posted this on Qt3 forums

Quote
People who got a copy going early on console are beginning to upload videos and stream this.

    Yup. It’s a Saints Row game.
    It definitely looks last-gen.
    Verticality of the city is drastically reduced from previous titles.


 :goty2

Watching now, looks about what I expected

https://www.twitch.tv/nilokuni





Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: bork on August 22, 2022, 08:18:53 AM
I have $70 of Steam credit waiting to be used from the motherboard I bought last year. I'd have pre-ordered this already if it was on Steam, but not spending more money I don't need to on this @ EGS unless it's even better than 2 or 3. Which I doubt will be the case. Fingers crossed bork

Someone posted this on Qt3 forums

Quote
People who got a copy going early on console are beginning to upload videos and stream this.

    Yup. It’s a Saints Row game.
    It definitely looks last-gen.
    Verticality of the city is drastically reduced from previous titles.


 :goty2

Watching now, looks about what I expected

https://www.twitch.tv/nilokuni

Eh, if nothing else I'll have some 'fun' with seeing if the game works on the Steam Deck. That's something I guess. :dizzy
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 22, 2022, 10:06:00 AM
Spill the beans, SpielerEins!

Opencritic has it at 65/100 at the moment.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on August 22, 2022, 10:06:35 AM
Reviews are all over the place  :lol :doge
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on August 22, 2022, 10:11:24 AM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52303370981_7e3b6fc5b2_c.jpg)

Lulz
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 22, 2022, 10:12:32 AM
IGN gave it a 6 :goldberg
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on August 22, 2022, 10:16:21 AM
Soooo many journos seem to say that alot of the poor scoring parts are because of bugs...  Is there a confirmed Day 1 patch or anything?

And for the love of pete... is there jiggle of ANY sort for a females character?!?!?!?
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 22, 2022, 10:19:10 AM
Stone tiddys :stahp
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: mormapope on August 22, 2022, 10:21:23 AM
The dregs of this shitty forum, 14 years on, have finely broken me. Later y'all, you all suck and have shitty taste.

 :heh :heh :heh :heh :heh

I watched the preview linked on last page and I'm falling into my knees in ectasy. Finally grounded yet insane Row is back. This is very SR2 esque, where the characters have their own things and passions. A big problem with characterization started in 3 where it became far more Boss oriented and characters like Shaundi were kind of changed in a weird way or the enemy gangs are barely characterized. Again, flanderization.

This looks back to basics in a lot of ways with the gameplay of 3 and the story/tone of 2. Strap me in.

 :sabu :sabu :sabu :sabu  :sabu

Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: demi on August 22, 2022, 10:22:12 AM
I watched the ending, I'm good

Soul Hackers and TMNT Collection for me
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 22, 2022, 10:22:42 AM
Go woke, go broke?  :elon
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: mormapope on August 22, 2022, 10:30:30 AM
Go woke, go broke?  :elon

Its not even that though. Saints Row was done with IV. Volition's games from that point on were all very mediocre or serviceable at best.

The hype for this was rooted in nostalgia for a series that got 4 good and often great games. Anyone with eyes could see this was gonna be a rough game.

And genuinely from my heart, himu and human Snorenado can suck on my chubby rocket for being such obnoxious, toxic as fuck posters regarding other people's tastes in videogames.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: bork on August 22, 2022, 10:32:48 AM
And for the love of pete... is there jiggle of ANY sort for a females character?!?!?!?

I WANT MY FUCKING MONEY BACK  :gun
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on August 22, 2022, 10:33:30 AM
https://twitter.com/schillingc/status/1561715412714364928
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on August 22, 2022, 10:36:20 AM
And for the love of pete... is there jiggle of ANY sort for a females character?!?!?!?

I WANT MY FUCKING MONEY BACK  :gun
If there's no sexy walk and jiggle like in SR3&4, then I'm out.

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/3oKIPlifLxdigaD2Y8/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Tycoon Padre on August 22, 2022, 10:44:46 AM
Check 10:09 in Skillup's review, big spoiler apparently but :dead

spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://youtu.be/T-hsMkWHMLU?t=609
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Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: benjipwns on August 22, 2022, 10:55:02 AM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52303370981_7e3b6fc5b2_c.jpg)

Lulz
So I see the marching orders have gone out to all the toxic shitheads to deliberately score this down because it doesn't star a straight cis white male. What's the score if you only look at educated and qualified actually diverse reviewers?
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on August 22, 2022, 11:06:31 AM
Hilarious to see some reee posters going "yeah im dissapointed now that the go woke go broke crowd is proven right"

Absolute idiots. It has nothing to do with woke. Just horrible character design. Nobody wants a indie hipster gang.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 22, 2022, 11:07:41 AM
Most people also want a functioning game.

Six month delay well spent.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: mormapope on August 22, 2022, 11:17:11 AM
Hilarious to see some reee posters going "yeah im dissapointed now that the go woke go broke crowd is proven right"

Absolute idiots. It has nothing to do with woke. Just horrible character design. Nobody wants a indie hipster gang.

This is why GTA Vice City is probably my favorite GTA. The story is incredibly simple, build an empire by being a violent sociopath. All the characters are scheming, slimy, and impulsive.

Yakuza as a franchise also benefits from having really ruthless and intimidating characters.

College students wanting to fulfill their dreams, and starting a life of organized crime to do that, is fucking stupid.

Young people that are high-school drop outs, kids that didn't fit in, young adults that see normal life as too boring, so they decide to feed their impulses or try to feel alive? That's captivating.

College kids with majors? Dumb. Very dumb.

Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 22, 2022, 11:27:57 AM
To support minorities, I will pick this up for $10 on Black (oof) Friday.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: benjipwns on August 22, 2022, 11:43:30 AM
To support minorities, I will pick this up for $10 on Black (oof) Friday.
With the $15 EGS coupon? Thank you, Joe, if only everyone cared like you do we might get somewhere in this country.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on August 22, 2022, 11:51:17 AM
Hilarious to see some reee posters going "yeah im dissapointed now that the go woke go broke crowd is proven right"

Absolute idiots. It has nothing to do with woke. Just horrible character design. Nobody wants a indie hipster gang.

This is why GTA Vice City is probably my favorite GTA. The story is incredibly simple, build an empire by being a violent sociopath. All the characters are scheming, slimy, and impulsive.

Yakuza as a franchise also benefits from having really ruthless and intimidating characters.

College students wanting to fulfill their dreams, and starting a life of organized crime to do that, is fucking stupid.

Young people that are high-school drop outs, kids that didn't fit in, young adults that see normal life as too boring, so they decide to feed their impulses or try to feel alive? That's captivating.

College kids with majors? Dumb. Very dumb.

also by setting it in the 80s meant they could get a fucking banging soundtrack for relatively cheap

e: also, just staright up ripping off the iconic Scarface.

As opposed to a failed Netflix pitch about an aspiring EDM DJ, an aspiring cryptobro daytrader and an aspiring Social Media Influencer determined to live their best life... by becoming criminals! And the wacky hinjiks that follow!
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 22, 2022, 12:06:26 PM
Don't forgot about Kevin. He loves not wearing shirts.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
In the final mission, the big bad makes him wear a shirt. Truly horrible. Truly shows you how bad the big bad really is.
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Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: paprikastaude on August 22, 2022, 01:22:42 PM
You played any Ubi game in the past years? Congrats, you already played SR. Is an absolute by the numbers product - with hipsters.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: BIONIC on August 22, 2022, 01:45:21 PM
Check 10:09 in Skillup's review, big spoiler apparently but :dead

spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://youtu.be/T-hsMkWHMLU?t=609
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:titus
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Bebpo on August 22, 2022, 03:00:36 PM
Wow, the reviews  :o

oh shit.

Guess this was a case where it looked bad and then...actually was bad.


Oh well, both this and Soul Hackers 2 this week and both got mediocre reviews (though at least Soul Hacker reviews are like 7/10 blandness, SR reviews are fucking dire).

Guess will keep waiting for a new GTA-like that's actually good to play. They probably should just kill off Saints Row at this point after the last couple of budget re-use games and this.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 22, 2022, 03:04:05 PM
Hey, at least us GTA clone fans still got Watch_Dogs.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Hahaahahahahaahahahaahah. Fucking hell, Legion was so bad.
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Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Raist on August 22, 2022, 03:18:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0XjOhCLssc
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: chronovore on August 22, 2022, 03:20:05 PM
Hey, at least us GTA clone fans still got Watch_Dogs.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Hahaahahahahaahahahaahah. Fucking hell, Legion was so bad.
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Seriously.

WD2 was so good, and built on the stuff that worked in WD1 — Legion was so frustrating and cheesy. That AI-driven synthesized voice garbage was remarkably distracting. The gameplay was not bad until getting in any car or motorcyle, at which point the camera devolves to an unresponsive and frustrating trail-cam with limited "peek" angle. It was SO MISERABLE.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on August 22, 2022, 04:20:25 PM
People scoring it low because of being a "buggy mess", but completely glossing over the glaring down grade of character creation (and praising it even?!?!), has me so fucking triggered right now.   :shaking

Fuck off journos and fuck off too, Volition.
 :sheik

I guess I'm gonna go play Horizon 2 then instead..
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Polident Hive on August 22, 2022, 04:29:18 PM
Other day I was watching a video on Driver 3, and from it, videos on The Getaway and True Crimes games. Also got reminded about Sleeping Dogs. Among others lesser known open world games. Most are dead or dying now.

Mafia might be alive? Rumors of Mafia 4 are out there.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 22, 2022, 04:33:29 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/YunoDied/status/1561776727499673602

Hahahahahahaha. I'm fucking dying over here.

Edit: It's fake. Wish it wasn't. It'd be the first good joke the game has.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Uncle on August 22, 2022, 04:37:32 PM
80 from journalists, 60 from general audience

I am here to own up to my grossly inaccurate prediction, and I apologize if my words may have contributed to misleading anyone regarding the game's potential

🙏
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Uncle on August 22, 2022, 04:38:58 PM
Don't forgot about Kevin. He loves not wearing shirts.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
In the final mission, the big bad makes him wear a shirt. Truly horrible. Truly shows you how bad the big bad really is.
[close]

you know what? points for this

this would've been an awesome joke alongside the vibe of any of the previous saints rows, with a completely different character (imagine if it was Oleg, and then at the end he's hollering and panicking about it)
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 22, 2022, 04:39:33 PM
You could always paypal Bork some bucks.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Nintex on August 22, 2022, 04:57:52 PM
What a fucking mess of a game. Good thing I called it  :yeshrug
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Kurt Russell on August 22, 2022, 05:07:25 PM
What a fucking mess of a game. Good thing I called it  :yeshrug

Yeah I'm going to wait until they patch it some and include all DLC so I can buy Saints Row: The Hill That Snorenado Chose To Die On Edition
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on August 22, 2022, 06:00:36 PM
My last vent on this...
**Rant that may be sensitive to certain people**
Just watched a SR3 (not remaster) female playthrough intro to make sure I didn’t have beer goggles on back then (although I did drink while playing it), but no… my memory served me all too well on how defining  the character creation/boss was back then.. And it was beautiful.. And this was on PS3 mind you…

This shit here,... is blasphemy.  I was in denial with the Boss Factory showing us ALL what is in the character creation.  Volition and dumbfuck journos touting this has “the greatest amount of customization and representation in any SR game” is utter horse shit.  Going this “non-binary only” bullshit approach with the confusing gender identity sensitive options; half-assed, unisex walking animations; package-touting only idle stances/animations; fortnite level emotes; PS2 level lack of body physics, is just plain insulting.  Not bashing that community, just Volition and journos for the favoritism towards it like it’s the ONLY OPTION moving forward..  How fucking difficult is it to have male, female, and “non-binary” presets?   How hard is it to have a sex appeal slider like before, but rename it if it’s so lolffensive??  How hard are body physics this gen??  Is that too degrading to the women working at Volition?? Lofl  We can have naughty bits and very suggestive covers and clothing, but can’t have an ass or tit jiggle in the slightest?!?  This contumelious approach expecting players of all types to accept this as a new norm… they can fuck right off. 

If I’m wrong, then Volition is totally blind to past efforts and are lazy pieces of shit.   This isn't a Reboot, this is ResetEra tier trash trying to cancel out what made the game good.
 :sistine
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Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: bork on August 22, 2022, 06:21:31 PM
Canceled my pre-order.  I'm still interested in seeing how this turns out once they've patched it up and actually gotten it playable.  Maybe by the time it comes out Steam it will actually be finished. :brain
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on August 22, 2022, 06:36:24 PM
Canceled my pre-order.  I'm still interested in seeing how this turns out once they've patched it up and actually gotten it playable.  :brain
I'm trying to remain hopeful they'll miraculously get it somehow and go full-on Sean Murray and spit shine the fuck out of this back to goodness, but they've probably already gone too woke to transition back to what it was naturally born to be.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Nintex on August 22, 2022, 06:36:49 PM
My last vent on this...
**Rant that may be sensitive to certain people**
Just watched a SR3 (not remaster) female playthrough intro to make sure I didn’t have beer goggles on back then (although I did drink while playing it), but no… my memory served me all too well on how defining  the character creation/boss was back then.. And it was beautiful.. And this was on PS3 mind you…

This shit here,... is blasphemy.  I was in denial with the Boss Factory showing us ALL what is in the character creation.  Volition and dumbfuck journos touting this has “the greatest amount of customization and representation in any SR game” is utter horse shit.  Going this “non-binary only” bullshit approach with the confusing gender identity sensitive options; half-assed, unisex walking animations; package-touting only idle stances/animations; fortnite level emotes; PS2 level lack of body physics, is just plain insulting.  Not bashing that community, just Volition and journos for the favoritism towards it like it’s the ONLY OPTION moving forward..  How fucking difficult is it to have male, female, and “non-binary” presets?   How hard is it to have a sex appeal slider like before, but rename it if it’s so lolffensive??  How hard are body physics this gen??  Is that too degrading to the women working at Volition?? Lofl  We can have naughty bits and very suggestive covers and clothing, but can’t have an ass or tit jiggle in the slightest?!?  This contumelious approach expecting players of all types to accept this as a new norm… they can fuck right off. 

If I’m wrong, then Volition is totally blind to past efforts and are lazy pieces of shit.   This isn't a Reboot, this is ResetEra tier trash trying to cancel out what made the game good.
 :sistine
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I remember devs really having trouble when female/male options became the norm because they had to animate everything twice.
The non-binary stuff is really an easy cop-out for them to skip on some work.

With that said, it's mind boggling how devs often fuck up core elements of their games like this and end up making it worse than a game that released a decade earlier.
Maybe the talented people are just spread too thin across the studios now or new engines can't as easily do the things the old engines could?

If video game journo's actually did some journalism we might find out. Like call these clowns, read their statements and ask them: "The fuck happened guys?"


Also why not wait 2(?) more months to release it to fix some more bugs before shipping.
Why release a broken ass game in the middle of the summer.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: benjipwns on August 22, 2022, 07:18:31 PM
Also why not wait 2(?) more months to release it to fix some more bugs before shipping.
Why release a broken ass game in the middle of the summer.
Remember, this was supposed to come out back in February.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Kurt Russell on August 22, 2022, 08:27:49 PM
I'm trying to remain hopeful they'll miraculously get it somehow and go full-on Sean Murray and spit shine the fuck out of this back to goodness, but they've probably already gone too woke to transition back to what it was naturally born to be.

From what I can see, it's like a really vanilla Lawbreakers. Aint no saving this turd.

Of course, the allies will lap this shit up. Why bother with gameplay when you can spend six months making the lead androgynous and score some of those sweet sweet virtue points. Guess we'll see if they really do buy games or not.

All I wanted was a new Saints Row 3. Or even IV.  :crybaby
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: pilonv1 on August 22, 2022, 08:44:58 PM
I just want the Saints Row 2 PC patch now :(
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Kurt Russell on August 22, 2022, 08:53:00 PM
Theory: What if they realised this was an S-tier bomba a while back and tried to pull a Ghostbusters: Answer The Call to shift the blame?

Change Rim Jobs to Jim Robs, make sure it's prominently featured in the bullshots and then sit back and wait for Gamergate and The Bore to get angry. Throw in a six month delay to really let it fester, add as much cause celebre diversity checkbox gameplay as they can and then release.

It's not our fault the game bombed, it's the incels. They clearly hate diversity. You're not an incel are you? Buy our game or Trump wins.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Uncle on August 22, 2022, 09:04:45 PM
never attribute to malice or craftiness which can adequately be explained by stupidity

if that was the plan it's been thoroughly thwarted when every review is focusing on the jank, I haven't gone looking too much but I haven't seen a lot of breathless praise for the hip young cast
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Hamarr on August 23, 2022, 12:24:01 AM
Hey, at least us GTA clone fans still got Watch_Dogs.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Hahaahahahahaahahahaahah. Fucking hell, Legion was so bad.
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Seriously.

WD2 was so good, and built on the stuff that worked in WD1 — Legion was so frustrating and cheesy. That AI-driven synthesized voice garbage was remarkably distracting. The gameplay was not bad until getting in any car or motorcyle, at which point the camera devolves to an unresponsive and frustrating trail-cam with limited "peek" angle. It was SO MISERABLE.

It looks like they had similar characters to what the new Saints Row was going for but managed to make them mostly likeable. I think the gameplay being good and the missions being fun had a lot to with that, too. 
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: who is ted danson? on August 23, 2022, 02:42:59 AM
Hope volition last long enough to get the SR2 patch out

spoiler (click to show/hide)
with fixing this shit show its going to be indefinitely delayed  :cry
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Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Nintex on August 23, 2022, 06:27:15 AM
Remember that this is basically Embracer's 2nd AAA game after Biomutant, they mostly specialize in AA games that slowly crawl past a million or more with retail and digital promotions.
I doubt the studio is in any trouble, my guess is that Embracer thinks the game is 'good enough' for promotions, gamepass releases etc. and they will patch and expand it as planned.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Uncle on August 23, 2022, 07:10:06 AM
the other reason they're not in trouble is that they released on epic which means they already got paid
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Kurt Russell on August 23, 2022, 11:25:56 AM
(https://abload.de/img/srapd1p.png)

 :kermit
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 23, 2022, 11:59:52 AM
that has to be fake

The Beta Network? :comeon
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: BIONIC on August 23, 2022, 12:01:26 PM
The Beta Network sounds apt. Am I right, fellxs?  :rodney

Curse you, pissy  :gun
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: bork on August 23, 2022, 01:07:07 PM
that has to be fake

The Beta Network? :comeon

https://thebetanetwork.net/articles/saints-row-review/

:anhuld
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: bork on August 23, 2022, 01:25:39 PM
There is a pretty huge Day 1 patch that got released.  Not sure if any of the reviewers have commented on this yet.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on August 23, 2022, 02:04:37 PM
There is a pretty huge Day 1 patch that got released.  Not sure if any of the reviewers have commented on this yet.

The day one patch will surely improve the story and shooting
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: benjipwns on August 23, 2022, 02:36:28 PM
(https://abload.de/img/srapd1p.png)
I don't get what's supposed to be bold or daring or a gamble about this "REBOOT THAT YOU'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE" when it sounds like the same game?

Are we really at a stage where changing the cast is a BOLD GAMBLE that SHOWS EVERYONE HOW IT'S DONE? Some of the most popular franchises refresh the casts constantly (Grand Theft Auto, Call of Duty, Gears of War, Assassins Creed, etc.) but nobody ever praises them for doing it every single time.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Nintex on August 23, 2022, 02:50:00 PM
Those review quotes could've literally been for any game  :doge

Going by the weird sentence structure. This was probably written by jasper.ai .

Quote
Monolith's gamble to reset and reground Xenoblade Chronicles pays off generously. A visual delight with plenty of gameplay mechanics to keep players goofing off for days and the Aionios setting is one of the best in video game history. Sure the combat get redundant after a while, but with so much to see and do you can go hours between battles. Xenoblade Chronicles 3 manages to retain what players loved while feeling fresh and new. Other reboots, take note - this is how you do it.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: bork on August 23, 2022, 02:50:20 PM
There is a pretty huge Day 1 patch that got released.  Not sure if any of the reviewers have commented on this yet.

The day one patch will surely improve the story and shooting

I just want a fun game to fuck around with- I see a surprising amount of positive impressions, despite the mega-jank and bugs.  People seem to be enjoying it.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: bork on August 23, 2022, 02:54:12 PM
The day one patch addresses/has:

-Framerate optimizations
-Post effects tweak
-Addressed framerate drop issues
-Fixed two loading crashes
-Fixed a memory leak
-Other minor fixes

Doesn't sound like too much.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 23, 2022, 02:57:59 PM
What'd people expect? For them to patch in a better game?
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: bork on August 23, 2022, 03:00:52 PM
What'd people expect? For them to patch in a better game?

:awesome :rimshot

I dunno, maybe some of the glaring issues addressed like DLC not being redeemable or co-op not working.  Still seeing lots of complaints and "don't buy this/refund it" posts right alongside the positive ones. 
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: bork on August 23, 2022, 03:07:24 PM
It looks like the day one patch is only up for the Xbox version right now- explains some things.  I'll keep watching it, but if they don't address the big issues, I guess I'll check it out once it goes bomba and is $20-$30 or just pass on it.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Svejk on August 23, 2022, 03:24:24 PM
It looks like the day one patch is only up for the Xbox version right now- explains some things.  I'll keep watching it, but if they don't address the big issues, I guess I'll check it out once it goes bomba and is $20-$30 or just pass on it.
Basically where I'm at.  Not gonna totally dismiss it, but not getting it now at full price.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Tuckers Law on August 23, 2022, 03:38:52 PM
We think Snorenado is somewhere right now trying desperately to love this game, thinking, “fuck those assholes they’re wrong!  I know they’re wrong!”?  :awesome
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on August 23, 2022, 03:49:55 PM
Snorenado fumin rn
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Nintex on August 23, 2022, 03:58:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aSp-bauXvY

Saints Row is now part of the Xenoblade Universe.  :pika
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Uncle on August 23, 2022, 04:10:11 PM
the only saints row I've played is 3

should I get the remaster? it's 65% off but has "mixed" steam reviews

the main thing I remember about SR3 is not remembering it

whatever version I got was a bundle with most of the DLC which included a purple Saints VTOL from the start of the game, which I guess is something you normally earn at the end of the game, so right from the start I was able to beeline from objective to objective like am I playing this game the right way

the city felt small and I never learned how to get around it, the streets, ground-based landmarks or districts, because I didn't need to

blew through the whole story in like a day and felt like I didn't need to do any side content because nothing I could unlock would make me more powerful or the game any more interesting

:notlikethis

I remember johnny gat dying which I didn't care about at all but everyone had said at the time "oh you don't have to play the games in order, don't worry about it"

I remember everybody trying to rob a place with big masks on and they bit off more than they could chew which left them trying to take over a new city, steelport

and I remember a zombie invasion and mayor tom selleck or something

and riding in a car with a tiger

that's everything
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Nintex on August 23, 2022, 04:26:13 PM
The remaster was pretty good, I had a fun time with it.

Graphics are great and they kept everything else basically the same.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 23, 2022, 04:48:54 PM
I like how some of the shills are straight up lying about the game. "You couldn't rob a store in any of the games."

You can in all of them. 4 taking place in the Matrix had you hack them instead. What does lying about this shit even achieve. It only shows that you didn't play the old games in the first place.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: bork on August 24, 2022, 08:55:49 AM
I like how some of the shills are straight up lying about the game. "You couldn't rob a store in any of the games."

You can in all of them. 4 taking place in the Matrix had you hack them instead. What does lying about this shit even achieve. It only shows that you didn't play the old games in the first place.

:dead

Opinions are all over the place.  Looking through the Reddit sub, there are people acting like said shills, people reporting problems so bad that they can't play the game, people shitting all over the game for being garbage, and people legitimately enjoying it despite its issues.  I still want to play this, but I'm not going to buy the game in the state that it's in. 

It doesn't look like PS5 and PC have gotten any patches yet so nothing has changed there.  Pretty ridiculous when there's people reporting that they can't even PLAY the game on PC or have to close out of numerous startup errors just to get it going.

From a comment on this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0XjOhCLssc

Quote
"The Saints' legacy ends here - not with a bang, but with a whimper."

Killbane's words couldn't have aged better.

 :tocry
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: Borealis on August 24, 2022, 09:27:59 AM
Very disappointing, but fair to say last year's showing was a solid first sign of this being directionless.

Honestly thought the world of Saints Row 3 sucked pretty bad and reckon 4 was barely Saints Row (fine on its own). Hope Volition don't fuck up the long awaited PC patch.

RE: Steelport

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(https://i.redd.it/pmm02xv9uv391.jpg)
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Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: Svejk on August 24, 2022, 09:46:25 AM
Well, at least we should get a good dunkey out of this one.


Holy shit.... is Sonic Frontiers gonna beat out SR??  :ohhh
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: bork on August 24, 2022, 10:50:00 AM
Hope Volition don't fuck up the long awaited PC patch.

Hope it doesn't turn out like the SR2 patch...that we're still waiting for a decade+ later.  RIP Idol Ninja.

Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: bork on August 24, 2022, 10:51:02 AM

Holy shit.... is Sonic Frontiers gonna beat out SR??  :ohhh

 :existential
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: MMaRsu on August 24, 2022, 12:34:11 PM
I like how some of the shills are straight up lying about the game. "You couldn't rob a store in any of the games."

You can in all of them. 4 taking place in the Matrix had you hack them instead. What does lying about this shit even achieve. It only shows that you didn't play the old games in the first place.

:dead

Opinions are all over the place.  Looking through the Reddit sub, there are people acting like said shills, people reporting problems so bad that they can't play the game, people shitting all over the game for being garbage, and people legitimately enjoying it despite its issues.  I still want to play this, but I'm not going to buy the game in the state that it's in. 

It doesn't look like PS5 and PC have gotten any patches yet so nothing has changed there.  Pretty ridiculous when there's people reporting that they can't even PLAY the game on PC or have to close out of numerous startup errors just to get it going.

From a comment on this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0XjOhCLssc

Quote
"The Saints' legacy ends here - not with a bang, but with a whimper."

Killbane's words couldn't have aged better.

 :tocry

They thank the Reddit mods in the credits, apparantly those mods have been viciously silencing negativity on their forums since the development. I dunno I never went there but LOL
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: Tuckers Law on August 24, 2022, 01:12:34 PM
Believable, that’s why Reddit will always be trash.  A better forum would be staffed by mods who can only be bought with titty games and the finest hentais.
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: bork on August 24, 2022, 01:31:37 PM
I like how some of the shills are straight up lying about the game. "You couldn't rob a store in any of the games."

You can in all of them. 4 taking place in the Matrix had you hack them instead. What does lying about this shit even achieve. It only shows that you didn't play the old games in the first place.

:dead

Opinions are all over the place.  Looking through the Reddit sub, there are people acting like said shills, people reporting problems so bad that they can't play the game, people shitting all over the game for being garbage, and people legitimately enjoying it despite its issues.  I still want to play this, but I'm not going to buy the game in the state that it's in. 

It doesn't look like PS5 and PC have gotten any patches yet so nothing has changed there.  Pretty ridiculous when there's people reporting that they can't even PLAY the game on PC or have to close out of numerous startup errors just to get it going.

From a comment on this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0XjOhCLssc

Quote
"The Saints' legacy ends here - not with a bang, but with a whimper."

Killbane's words couldn't have aged better.

 :tocry

They thank the Reddit mods in the credits, apparantly those mods have been viciously silencing negativity on their forums since the development. I dunno I never went there but LOL

Saw a post mentioning this on there- wonder if it's still up?  :doge

But they don't appear to be going and deleting anyone shitting on the game that I'm seeing.
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: bork on August 24, 2022, 01:31:54 PM
Believable, that’s why Reddit will always be trash.  A better forum would be staffed by mods who can only be bought with titty games and the finest hentais.

:snob
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: MMaRsu on August 24, 2022, 01:42:31 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2014/9/1/6094019/saints-row-sarkeesian-tropes-vs-women-volition

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In the case of Volition creative director Steve Jaros, the answer is simple: owning up to what he calls "a problem in the game industry."

Speaking to The Escapist, Jaros said, "I actually think [Tropes vs. Women creator Anita Sarkeesian's] right in this case." He went on to say that he believes the Saints Row series developer has improved in its treatment of women over years but said they still have room to grow.

 :yuck
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 24, 2022, 02:03:28 PM
I’ve played maybe an hour or two so far.

I don’t think it’s terrible. I’ll report back.
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 24, 2022, 02:06:11 PM
Better than xenoblade 3 confirmed :gladbron
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: bork on August 24, 2022, 02:32:24 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2014/9/1/6094019/saints-row-sarkeesian-tropes-vs-women-volition

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In the case of Volition creative director Steve Jaros, the answer is simple: owning up to what he calls "a problem in the game industry."

Speaking to The Escapist, Jaros said, "I actually think [Tropes vs. Women creator Anita Sarkeesian's] right in this case." He went on to say that he believes the Saints Row series developer has improved in its treatment of women over years but said they still have room to grow.

 :yuck

This is like the perfect shit storm- they attempted to appeal to a younger, more "woke" generation and failed, alienated the older fanbase in the process, and then topped it off with bugs and game-breaking glitches.  Good job, Volition.
:clap

I'm sure Anita LOVES that you can run around as a half-naked -or completely nude- woman in this game.
 :brain

And "room to grow?"  How about growing some competent developers and play-testers TO FIX THIS MESS?
:kinison
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: bork on August 24, 2022, 03:34:22 PM
https://www.axios.com/2022/08/22/saints-row-reviews-embracer-group

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Embracer Group takes a hit as new game is panned

Negative reviews of the new Saints Row video game are hitting at an awkward time for Swedish gaming giant Embracer Group, as it tries to prove itself a powerful player in the industry.

Driving the news: Critical drubbings of the game commenced at 10am ET today. The stock price for Embracer Group AB dove right after.

It’s down more than 7% for the day.

:kermit
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: Uncle on August 24, 2022, 03:40:32 PM
I'm sure Anita LOVES that you can run around as a half-naked -or completely nude- woman in this game.
 :brain

but see, that's the problem, because people who like running around as nude women are mad that they don't jiggle

they managed to please no one

:gamergate :rethread



when your characters are murdering dozens of people to get their hands on happy meal toys for the orphanage, the people who enjoy murder roll their eyes right alongside the people who enjoy giving toys to young children

:jared
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: benjipwns on August 24, 2022, 03:50:28 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2014/9/1/6094019/saints-row-sarkeesian-tropes-vs-women-volition

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In the case of Volition creative director Steve Jaros, the answer is simple: owning up to what he calls "a problem in the game industry."

Speaking to The Escapist, Jaros said, "I actually think [Tropes vs. Women creator Anita Sarkeesian's] right in this case." He went on to say that he believes the Saints Row series developer has improved in its treatment of women over years but said they still have room to grow.

 :yuck
Did they ever explain why they chose to listen to a woman with no credentials who didn't even understand her own arguments? And whose interests completely changed after she split from her male scriptwriter?

I would assume not since people are still giving her consulting gigs despite no proof that her advice is ever relevant. (See: Psychonauts 2)
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: bork on August 24, 2022, 04:57:12 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2014/9/1/6094019/saints-row-sarkeesian-tropes-vs-women-volition

Quote
In the case of Volition creative director Steve Jaros, the answer is simple: owning up to what he calls "a problem in the game industry."

Speaking to The Escapist, Jaros said, "I actually think [Tropes vs. Women creator Anita Sarkeesian's] right in this case." He went on to say that he believes the Saints Row series developer has improved in its treatment of women over years but said they still have room to grow.

 :yuck
Did they ever explain why they chose to listen to a woman with no credentials who didn't even understand her own arguments? And whose interests completely changed after she split from her male scriptwriter?

I would assume not since people are still giving her consulting gigs despite no proof that her advice is ever relevant. (See: Psychonauts 2)

I forgot all about her.  I see she's now moved onto greener pastures and is going after...Star Trek...?

But from 2019:
Quote from: Anita Sarkeesian
Twitter URL
https://twitter.com/anitasarkeesian/status/1433195049475457024
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When I work with game studios I don’t expect them to take all my feedback and sometimes it’s not even possible to integrate some of my suggestions. Often I send a report and I never hear back.

:kermit
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 24, 2022, 05:11:48 PM
did that weird hate film about her ever come it, it looked hilarious.
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: benjipwns on August 24, 2022, 06:06:59 PM
But from 2019:
Quote from: Anita Sarkeesian
sometimes it’s not even possible to integrate some of my suggestions.
Then why make them? :mindblown
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: Potato on August 24, 2022, 11:17:06 PM
Looks good? What?


I thought we were done with 5mins long CGI trailers :snore

Because it's Saints Row and I love Saints Row and it has been almost TEN FUCKING GODDAMN YEARS SINCE GTAV and I'm so thirsty for a traditional sandbox game with GANGS and mayhem that this was like a cool glass of water in a fucking dessert covered in SHIT.
I wonder how MAGA himu is taking Woke Row?
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: MMaRsu on August 25, 2022, 08:17:22 AM
Saints Row-FLT

If you want to check the game out for free, Timmy already paid for it soooo  :doge

Im not gonna DL it though, not worth the disk space lol

Not even the pirates on Reddit want it!

(https://i.ibb.co/dgdVTbR/lol.png)

 :lol
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: Kurt Russell on August 26, 2022, 03:17:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lm1DHqt6Jc

gg snorenado
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: Svejk on August 26, 2022, 03:56:04 PM
Saints Row is done.  It was great while it lasted.  There's no returning from this...

To the memories...

(https://c.tenor.com/3lrapcIRNvYAAAAC/liquid-pour.gif)
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: Uncle on August 26, 2022, 05:25:49 PM
It's over, period. Volition lost their last ace, and that's the end of their Saint's Row hopes and dreams.

It's not hyperbole, it's not fanboy drivel. It is LITERALLY it for Saint's Row. Volition has nothing left, nothing they can reveal tomorrow would fix the hole now created. There is no reason left for any one, hardcore or casual, to substantively invest in Saint's Row. Except if they want to play patched Saint's Row 2. Which may not even come out at this point.

The age of Saint's Row is done.
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: bork on August 26, 2022, 06:00:24 PM
Saints Row is done.  It was great while it lasted.  There's no returning from this...

To the memories...

(https://c.tenor.com/3lrapcIRNvYAAAAC/liquid-pour.gif)

I still want to play it but keep forcing myself not to buy it.
:stahp
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: Bebpo on August 26, 2022, 06:04:52 PM
Can they make a new Red Faction Guerilla before Embracer shuts them down?

Embracer is all about reviving old IPs anyhow.
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: Nintex on August 26, 2022, 06:35:26 PM
Embracer is not going to shut down anything guys.

Internally they see this as a big success, they shipped their second AAA game and in a well known franchise this time.
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: bork on August 26, 2022, 07:58:44 PM
Embracer is not going to shut down anything guys.

Internally they see this as a big success, they shipped their second AAA game and in a well known franchise this time.

How is it a big success when it caused their stock to drop?  Never mind all the negative press.
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 26, 2022, 09:32:11 PM
Eh their stock looks to be all over the place looking at the 6 month graph, sure the negative pub about the game will have caused it to drop, but it's not like they're putting out loads of highly reviewed games anyway, I wouldn't be shocked if they did well on pre orders and name value buys from normies n shit :snob
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: Kurt Russell on August 27, 2022, 08:57:16 PM
https://youtu.be/XRlYcCUR-1s

Fair.
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 28, 2022, 08:09:58 AM
Instead of getting this game, I bought True Crime New York City on the xbox at a second hand market. Looking at the old metacritic scores they're about the same quality. :D
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: bork on August 28, 2022, 12:07:24 PM
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/002/426/157/162)
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: chronovore on August 28, 2022, 05:55:12 PM
Who knew Gamestop employees were capable of AI generated style illustrations?
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: Uncle on August 28, 2022, 09:07:37 PM
:whoo

(https://i.imgur.com/SVRcMNL.png)
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: MMaRsu on August 30, 2022, 02:18:11 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhCKO1dL4Bs
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: bork on August 30, 2022, 08:13:36 AM
Crashing into a truck does nothing to your vehicle or player character, but makes the truck explode instead?  :lol :rofl
:titus :cornette :mindblown

...Is it possible that this game has some kind of secret ending where you're actually still hooked up to the simulation from SR4?  :doge
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: Uncle on August 30, 2022, 10:44:33 AM
Crashing into a truck does nothing to your vehicle or player character, but makes the truck explode instead?  :lol :rofl
:titus :cornette :mindblown

...Is it possible that this game has some kind of secret ending where you're actually still hooked up to the simulation from SR4?  :doge

in the penguinz0 video it becomes obvious that monster trucks are coded so that any vehicles that so much as graze its hitbox are immediately converted into a smashed model, regardless of speed or force or anything

accidentally flattening yourself under a parked monster truck but it's ok (https://youtu.be/wR7ssUVfgz8?t=742)

NPCs commit suicide on his parked monster truck (https://youtu.be/wR7ssUVfgz8?t=1645)
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: paprikastaude on August 30, 2022, 11:04:22 AM
Crashing into a truck does nothing to your vehicle or player character, but makes the truck explode instead?  :lol :rofl
:titus :cornette :mindblown

...Is it possible that this game has some kind of secret ending where you're actually still hooked up to the simulation from SR4?  :doge

That's one of the more fun parts though
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: MMaRsu on August 30, 2022, 12:04:02 PM
These bugs are so much fun!
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: paprikastaude on August 30, 2022, 01:25:58 PM
The vehical physics are intented, the first thing you learn is a takedown thrust.
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: bork on August 30, 2022, 02:06:47 PM
The vehical physics are intented, the first thing you learn is a takedown thrust.

:ohhh
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: benjipwns on August 30, 2022, 02:16:59 PM
Crashing into a truck does nothing to your vehicle or player character, but makes the truck explode instead?  :lol :rofl
:titus :cornette :mindblown

...Is it possible that this game has some kind of secret ending where you're actually still hooked up to the simulation from SR4?  :doge
This is my fault, years ago on Twitter I told Idolninja that the worst part about The Third was it didn't have the insane gas station physics* from Saints Row 2 and he completely agreed. Now here we are.

*If you drive into a pump so that it explodes (which can happen even at low bump speeds) it will send your car flying for miles.
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 30, 2022, 05:02:47 PM
The vehical physics are intented, the first thing you learn is a takedown thrust.

That's honestly even worse. It looks like fucking dogshit.
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 01, 2022, 08:33:47 AM
So the game freezes when I go to change clothes :wow
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: Raist on September 01, 2022, 03:21:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JXWLPqwXw4

 :lol
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: MMaRsu on September 01, 2022, 03:53:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JXWLPqwXw4

 :lol

The bugs are part of the fun! Its working as intended!
Title: Re: SAINTS FUCKING ROW
Post by: Himu on September 02, 2022, 10:29:55 PM
Go woke, go broke?  :elon

Its not even that though. Saints Row was done with IV. Volition's games from that point on were all very mediocre or serviceable at best.

The hype for this was rooted in nostalgia for a series that got 4 good and often great games. Anyone with eyes could see this was gonna be a rough game.

And genuinely from my heart, himu and human Snorenado can suck on my chubby rocket for being such obnoxious, toxic as fuck posters regarding other people's tastes in videogames.

Yeah, sorry about that. You're right. I can be toxic. I'm working on it. u_u

Looks good? What?


I thought we were done with 5mins long CGI trailers :snore

Because it's Saints Row and I love Saints Row and it has been almost TEN FUCKING GODDAMN YEARS SINCE GTAV and I'm so thirsty for a traditional sandbox game with GANGS and mayhem that this was like a cool glass of water in a fucking dessert covered in SHIT.
I wonder how MAGA himu is taking Woke Row?

The dregs of this shitty forum, 14 years on, have finely broken me. Later y'all, you all suck and have shitty taste.

 :heh :heh :heh :heh :heh

I watched the preview linked on last page and I'm falling into my knees in ectasy. Finally grounded yet insane Row is back. This is very SR2 esque, where the characters have their own things and passions. A big problem with characterization started in 3 where it became far more Boss oriented and characters like Shaundi were kind of changed in a weird way or the enemy gangs are barely characterized. Again, flanderization.

This looks back to basics in a lot of ways with the gameplay of 3 and the story/tone of 2. Strap me in.

 :sabu :sabu :sabu :sabu  :sabu

Yup. Really bad overall and I will admit I was really wrong about this. It's a shame, as I really wanted to want it to work out but I blind to my own feelings. u_u Very heartbreaking situation and even worse, Volition will have to put manpower fixing this monstronsity and Idol Ninja's literal - and I mean literal - dying wish to fix Saints Row 2 on PC might not materialize because of it. Just sad overall, not only for Saints Row's fall from grace from the state of Volition in general. I can admit I was really, really wrong here.  :fbm
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot SUCKS - A thread in which Himu eats shit
Post by: MMaRsu on September 03, 2022, 03:08:56 PM
https://youtu.be/eM-27ocJRa0

The hits keep coming
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: bork on September 03, 2022, 04:02:02 PM
Himu, you're being too hard on yourself in here.  This should be a time of healing.  Let us come together and recover from this disaster.

Saints Row
(https://c.tenor.com/u8UwVuKFFtEAAAAC/pouring-one-out-crying.gif)

TBH, I still want to play this.  Just need more bug fixing.

Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Himu on September 03, 2022, 04:15:45 PM
Himu, you're being too hard on yourself in here.  This should be a time of healing.  Let us come together and recover from this disaster.

Saints Row
(https://c.tenor.com/u8UwVuKFFtEAAAAC/pouring-one-out-crying.gif)

TBH, I still want to play this.  Just need more bug fixing.

I really loved this franchise and it really sucks to see what came of it. I legitimately thought SR1 was more fun tan GTAIV, and then SR2 came out and just knocked it out the park. SR3 is iconic even if I think it's worse than 2 it's still a classic in my eyes. We need a hero. An open-world hero. I still haven't played RDR2. I'll get it sometime soon when I get a Series X.

This thread should be an appreciation for the Row and what we loved about it.

https://youtu.be/y9BoIEY4xA4
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Himu on September 03, 2022, 04:18:29 PM
Just a few weeks after the release of GTAIV and everyone was talking about how disappointing it was in the summer of 08, Volition put out this classic trailer trashing GTAIV and telling everyone to buy SR2.

https://youtu.be/3tVpqF2VnkY

Classic.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Svejk on September 03, 2022, 04:48:20 PM
With the current state of the world, a proper Row just felt so desperately needed... It's such a shame.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Himu on September 03, 2022, 08:18:13 PM
With the current state of the world, a proper Row just felt so desperately needed... It's such a shame.

Mmhm. It's heartbreaking. :tocry
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 04, 2022, 12:21:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U2DAD6iX5o
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: benjipwns on September 04, 2022, 03:58:15 PM
With the current state of the world, a proper Row just felt so desperately needed... It's such a shame.
It's a shame that someone finally spoke truth to power in a video game? :social
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 04, 2022, 06:49:05 PM
I get that the writing is pretty cringe, but then again so was the 1st game.

I've been playing it and I don't think it's that terrible.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Kurt Russell on September 04, 2022, 08:00:42 PM
The best thing about the entire reboot is this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrgKf956cRE
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Polident Hive on September 05, 2022, 12:03:56 AM
Embarrassed to admit I thought there could be a slight chance the characters and tone were a parody of reboots. Saints Row 4 jokes about itself, Mass Effect, They Live, among others. Hearing that it’s all played straight and generic as a CW show? Kinda amazing. Is anybody from old Volition still around?
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: bork on September 07, 2022, 08:16:01 AM
(https://i.redd.it/6tcnrboae8m91.jpg)

:dead
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 07, 2022, 09:04:58 AM
shit sux, but it's not that bad :trumps
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: bork on September 07, 2022, 10:26:14 AM
shit sux, but it's not that bad :trumps

I still plan to get it once they fix more shit.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Svejk on September 07, 2022, 10:49:09 AM
shit sux, but it's not that bad :trumps

I still plan to get it once they fix more shit.
But will they?  Seems like they've been quiet.. They just plopped it and walked away counting their cash from their EGS deal. 

Edit: Guess they did just release a hotfix for PC and PS two days ago... They got a long road ahead of them though... 

#KeEpItStRaNgE  :jared
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Kurt Russell on September 07, 2022, 11:53:35 AM
(https://i.redd.it/6tcnrboae8m91.jpg)

:dead

You wish it was that edgy.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: chronovore on September 07, 2022, 11:13:53 PM
shit sux, but it's not that bad :trumps

I still plan to get it once they fix more shit.

Same plan here.

SR2 launched buggy as shit, they eventually fixed it. Sceneman and I even started a from-scratch run to get the "All Activities completed in Co-Op" Achievement. I started from a fresh save, Sceneman did not. It took hours to complete it, and it was a hoot, but we did it. At the end, my Achievement unlocked and his didn't because Volition hadn't fixed that bug.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: benjipwns on September 07, 2022, 11:22:29 PM
Will get when they release the Definitive Ultimate Edition on Steam that puts Rim Jobs back in and adds an epilogue that satirizes the entire pathetic "REBOOT LIKE YOU'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE" Twitter posturing.  :patel
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Svejk on September 07, 2022, 11:40:07 PM
Will get when they patch in some jiggle physics.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 08, 2022, 02:35:04 AM
Well I did buy and play through it.

And it was fine, even good.

Yes, its got some bugs and glitches that will make you restart missions, but on a whole it was fun. I wanted a GTA3 era open world game and I got it.

Honestly, its a fun game. While I had some problems with how gameplay felt initially. Once I got into a grove and kept a slight auto aim on, combat became pretty fun. I think Mafia 3 is probably the best feeling funplay in an open-world game. SR does not match that, maybe not even close as aiming still feels a bit off. But its fast and frantic. The cooldown abilities are actually very useful. People commented on the lack of cover, well it shouldn't have it. Its not that kind of game, you are supposed to be out there run and gunning. It is old scool in a way how arcadey the combat is.

This really is the Saints Row 2 follow-up people asked for. Like it doesn't go insane and move away from being sholcky crime thing. It keeps that tone, it just feels a bit more "youthful".

The whole its woke shit discussion surrounding this game was lame. Look, Saints Row has always been cringe. The 1st game had incredibly lame writing. 2 was better but still goofy. 3 owned it and made it it's own.

SR 2022 is kind of lame in that it for sure feels like 40 something year olds trying to write something they think younger demos will relate to.

Like dialogue in this game goes like this:

"Boss you almost died back there"

"Yeah if the gangs dont get me my student loans will".

They can't help but throw some topical joke at you, but then again the previous games tried to throw crass and other jokes at you constantly as well. And just like in those previous games, sometimes something does hit.

Outside of that I don't see whats so bad about this game.

The city was nice. Looked great and was memorable enough. Its mix of Houston TX, Arizona, and Vegas makes for some cool sights. The city wasn't too big, nor too small.

Like SR it's full of mini games, which I could see some take issue. They are less personable and really uninventive. There's no real unique presentation given to them(like in 3 where one was like a death game reality show) and in the end, most of them are go here and kill things. Yet the combat is fun and some give you a cool weapon or vehicle to use, so it does spice up the gameplay here and there.

Perfectly solid game. There are some QOL changes that should be made though.


All businesses should be able to fast travel to.

Should be able to summon your car after you start a mission.





Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: MMaRsu on September 08, 2022, 05:33:46 PM
Its not woke its just crap
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: MMaRsu on September 18, 2022, 04:48:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4c85O34htE
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: bork on September 18, 2022, 11:15:49 AM
Instead of watching a 50-minute review ( :mindblown), I watched a few minutes of a live stream of the Rerez guy playing it and shitting all over everything.  It looked even worse than I had seen in some other videos- at one point during a mission, he drives a vehicle to a spot on the map and enemies come driving in, get out, and...just basically stand there and let him shoot them all.  There was one enemy caught in a weird animation loop, attempting to draw their gun, and failing, over and over.   :lol

They've released a second hotfix and I'm still seeing that the game is broken.  I still can't believe this is how Saints Row is going out.
:tocry
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: MMaRsu on September 18, 2022, 11:33:44 AM
Joe does put some efforts into his skits, and he's been a fan of the series since the first game. He even bought a purple dildo to review SR3. Its a pretty good review too but I didnt have anything to do on a sunday morning
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: bork on September 18, 2022, 11:35:48 AM
What I'm saying is, I don't need somebody telling me how bad this game is for 50 minutes when five will suffice. :doge
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Uncle on September 18, 2022, 11:49:48 AM
He even bought a purple dildo to review SR3.

(https://i.imgur.com/wa3fvN9.gif)
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 18, 2022, 12:24:41 PM
I beat a chase mission by getting out of my car on this :girlaff
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: MMaRsu on September 18, 2022, 01:26:46 PM
He even bought a purple dildo to review SR3.

(https://i.imgur.com/wa3fvN9.gif)

 :lol
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: MMaRsu on September 18, 2022, 01:27:07 PM
What I'm saying is, I don't need somebody telling me how bad this game is for 50 minutes when five will suffice. :doge

I did see some hilarious bugs lol
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Nintex on September 18, 2022, 01:33:28 PM
Instead of watching a 50-minute review ( :mindblown), I watched a few minutes of a live stream of the Rerez guy playing it and shitting all over everything.  It looked even worse than I had seen in some other videos- at one point during a mission, he drives a vehicle to a spot on the map and enemies come driving in, get out, and...just basically stand there and let him shoot them all.  There was one enemy caught in a weird animation loop, attempting to draw their gun, and failing, over and over.   :lol

They've released a second hotfix and I'm still seeing that the game is broken.  I still can't believe this is how Saints Row is going out.
:tocry
It'll probably get a second wind with a patch and a price cut for the holiday season.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: benjipwns on September 18, 2022, 02:06:52 PM
Joe does put some efforts into his skits, and he's been a fan of the series since the first game. He even bought a purple dildo to review SR3. Its a pretty good review too but I didnt have anything to do on a sunday morning
On the other hand, he's Angry Joe, a well known inarticulate idiot whose only funny skit was demanding an Interview To The Death from Geoff Keighley at the VGA red carpet. No matter how many purple dildos he buys.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 18, 2022, 02:15:05 PM
I've never watched any of his stuff, but he looks like an immature boob from his name and thumbnails :trumps
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: benjipwns on September 18, 2022, 02:35:02 PM
By "skit" I meant he seriously went to the VGA and demanded Keighley accept his challenge and the Dorito Pope BTFO out of him then just left:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTNkoDzP1hI
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: MMaRsu on September 18, 2022, 02:38:51 PM
We're all immature boobs anyway
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: BIONIC on September 18, 2022, 03:57:55 PM
We're all immature boobs anyway

 :jgames
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: benjipwns on September 27, 2022, 07:47:15 PM
Already 25% off on EGS:
(https://i.imgur.com/XvWQjcR.png)
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: bork on September 27, 2022, 08:06:44 PM
Already 25% off on EGS:
(https://i.imgur.com/XvWQjcR.png)

When it's $20-$30, I'll think about it.  Maybe it will be somewhat fixed by then!
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: who is ted danson? on September 28, 2022, 02:28:55 AM
Tim Sweeney will make it free. Come on Tim.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 28, 2022, 04:04:45 AM
I honestly don't even want it for free. It looks like a disgrace to the franchise.

It basically put the noose around the neck of one of my favourite franchises. After laughing at it for being right about it in the first place, I now just feel a profound sadness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsD4im7K3wg
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: pilonv1 on September 28, 2022, 04:30:56 AM
Already 25% off on EGS:
(https://i.imgur.com/XvWQjcR.png)

When it's $20-$30, I'll think about it.  Maybe it will be somewhat fixed by then!

$20-30 and on Steam. I don't care about the EGS exclusivity but I've got credit I need to use.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Svejk on October 11, 2022, 11:59:23 AM
Big November update incoming...
Quote
We are so excited that Saints Row is finally out and in your hands. More than a million players have taken Santo Ileso by storm, and begun to build their criminal empires as The Saints.

While we have been quietly working behind the scenes, everyone at Volition has been following your response to the game, and we want to thank you for your enthusiasm, support and feedback.

We are supporting Saints Row for the long-term, and while we'd have preferred to be talking about roadmaps and expansions, right now we feel the focus must be on telling you how we're going to improve the Saints Row experience for all players in 2022 and beyond.


BUGS & FIXES

We know there is still work to do to improve your experience in the game, and we are working hard on fixes to community-reported issues, and improvements based on your feedback. You can see some of the progress we've already made from recent hotfixes here. Make sure to bookmark this page and follow our social channels for the most up-to-date Saints information, and a peek at what we're working on.

But there's a lot more we want to do, and right now our development priority is delivering improvements over new features. In keeping with that, we're going to ship our first major update in late November to pack in as many improvements and fixes as we can.

This November update will feature over 200 bug fixes and stability upgrades, and it will have a particular focus on challenges, overall stability and co-op. We're especially aware of issues some players have been having with co-op and we're sorry these fixes have taken longer than expected while we apply and test them thoroughly. Separately, we know that the game doesn't always clearly explain how and when co-op is possible, so we are working on this too. In the meantime, please make sure you check the co-op guide for info on the best way to team-up and tear-up Santo Ileso with a friend!

QUALITY OF LIFE CHANGES AND ONGOING IMPROVEMENTS

At the same time, this November update will mark the beginning of a series of quality of life changes and new features for the core game. This update will include many requested improvements including reducing repetition in some activities, making challenges more rewarding, improving vehicle management, a revamp of rumble and haptic features, and more.

But the quality of life improvements in this update are just the tip of the iceberg. These are wins we feel we can get to you quickly while we work on even bigger and better improvements based on your feedback.

We plan to update you more regularly soon on what changes we're making and when!


FOR 2022

While delivering new content has become less of a priority for now, we still have a few nice additions for players in 2022.
This week we release the first of a series of cosmetic packs – the Front to Back pack – to all players for FREE. If you own the game, all you have to do is go to your relevant platform store and download it.
Front to Back DLC

We'll be releasing more free cosmetic packs this year for all players, as well as several additional cosmetic packs that will be given to Expansion Pass owners at no extra cost. The Expansion Pass will also be made available to purchase later this month (remember: you already have the Expansion Pass if you own the Gold, Platinum or Notorious editions of Saints Row).
2023 AND BEYOND

As we said at the top of the blog, we plan on supporting Saints Row for the long-term. 2023 will be a hugely exciting year for Saints Row owners with a raft of content, including all-new story content (included in the Expansion Pass, but will also be available to buy separately) and free new gameplay experiences and areas of the city to explore.
All this will of course will land aside even bigger quality of life updates, more free packs and more stuff we're not quite ready to talk about yet. Please stay tuned for regular updates on our progress and letting you know what's new with Saints Row.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on October 11, 2022, 01:16:58 PM
Quote
We are so excited that Saints Row is finally out and in your hands. More than a million players have taken Santo Ileso by storm, and begun to build their criminal empires as The Saints.

Given how PR works and the assumption if it was >1.5 million it would have been "almost 2 million", aren't those sales... kinda sorta really crappy for relatively high profile release, large marketing budget and known IP, and lack of much else in competition at the moment?
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Svejk on October 11, 2022, 01:33:23 PM
Quote
We are so excited that Saints Row is finally out and in your hands. More than a million players have taken Santo Ileso by storm, and begun to build their criminal empires as The Saints.

Given how PR works and the assumption if it was >1.5 million it would have been "almost 2 million", aren't those sales... kinda sorta really crappy for relatively high profile release, large marketing budget and known IP, and lack of much else in competition at the moment?
Yeah, that number sounded a bit shoddy to me too.  Especially for being out for almost 2 months already.  I don't think a Steam release would've boosted sales too much further tbh.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: bork on October 11, 2022, 03:32:22 PM
Quote from: Volition
As we said at the top of the blog, we plan on supporting Saints Row for the long-term.

Yeah, sure.  Hey, how's that Saints Row 2 PC overhaul patch coming along?  :doge
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 14, 2022, 08:30:34 AM
Technically they just say they’re planning to support it, it doesn’t mean they will actually do it. We all plan to do lots of things that never happen.

Also one million sales for a game of this size and type is fucking awful these days.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 14, 2022, 09:37:47 AM
It is rotten for a game that was getting a strong marketing push.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: who is ted danson? on October 14, 2022, 01:38:14 PM
they will probably just release a couple of free outfits or dildo baseball bat skins over the next few months then call it a day
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Borealis on October 23, 2022, 05:16:53 AM
Quote from: Volition
As we said at the top of the blog, we plan on supporting Saints Row for the long-term.

Yeah, sure.  Hey, how's that Saints Row 2 PC overhaul patch coming along?  :doge

There's at least this from last month on the Steam forums:
(https://i.redd.it/gpzsbsmp4sp91.png)

Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Tuckers Law on October 23, 2022, 09:46:56 PM
 :comeon
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 01, 2022, 06:18:48 AM
One of our toy/gamestores is getting rid of it's copies. 15 euros at Intertoys. Seems it's only an offline deal.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: chronovore on November 02, 2022, 02:16:27 AM
Saints Row 2 was fantastic once they fixed the netcode, on a game that was online-only co-op focused.

I am going to buy this whenever they get around to fixing the broken stuff. If it's cheaper by then, awesome.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: bork on November 09, 2022, 06:32:21 PM
https://twitter.com/SaintsRow/status/1590026394179801088
:thinking
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 10, 2022, 11:15:23 AM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
it will still suck
[close]
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: chronovore on November 10, 2022, 07:39:29 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
it will still suck
[close]

spoiler (click to show/hide)

:fbm

[close]
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Borealis on November 17, 2022, 06:12:41 AM
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/volition-will-become-part-of-gearbox-after-disappointing-reception-to-saints-row/ (https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/volition-will-become-part-of-gearbox-after-disappointing-reception-to-saints-row/)

Quote
Volition will soon become part of Gearbox following a disappointing reception to its Saints Row reboot, Embracer Group has announced.

In a statement released alongside its second quarter earnings results, Embracer CEO Lars Wingefors explained that Volition will be switching operative groups from Plaion (formerly Koch Media) to Gearbox Entertainment.

“The reception of Saints Row did not meet the full expectations and left the fanbase partially polarized,” he said.

“The game development studio, Volition, has been working hard to improve the player experience.”

Realistic status of the Saints Row 2 PC patch...

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:fbm
[close]

Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: bork on November 17, 2022, 08:03:11 AM
The big patch is up.  Checked Reddit, and unsurprisingly, there's still a crapload of problems that didn't get fixed.   :brain
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 17, 2022, 11:00:50 AM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
it will still suck
[close]

:smug

As an idiot who paid cash money for this turd, I wouldn't be upset if they cut bait after this, it will need a cyberpunk style year and halfs work to fix it and what is there isn't worth saving. Take the L, I already have :tocry
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: benjipwns on November 17, 2022, 10:42:00 PM
This is all because you all didn't keep clapping and weren't clapping hard enough. Instead you all spent your time lamenting "woke" social studies warriors because a game dared enough to put a diverse cast facing real world problems front and center. And now instead of supporting their developers we have the fascist collaborators at Embracer Group throwing them under the bus for receiving hate from racists.

I guess we need to add Saints Row to the massive list of victims of Gamergate.
Title: Re: Saints Row 2022 :|
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 19, 2022, 01:04:47 PM
Holy shit.... is Sonic Frontiers gonna beat out SR??  :ohhh

Eheheheheehe.

Saints Row (2022) got a 61 whereas Sonic Frontiers got a 72 on Metacritic. Amazing.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on November 20, 2022, 07:06:48 AM
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/volition-will-become-part-of-gearbox-after-disappointing-reception-to-saints-row/ (https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/volition-will-become-part-of-gearbox-after-disappointing-reception-to-saints-row/)

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Volition will soon become part of Gearbox following a disappointing reception to its Saints Row reboot, Embracer Group has announced.

In a statement released alongside its second quarter earnings results, Embracer CEO Lars Wingefors explained that Volition will be switching operative groups from Plaion (formerly Koch Media) to Gearbox Entertainment.

“The reception of Saints Row did not meet the full expectations and left the fanbase partially polarized,” he said.

“The game development studio, Volition, has been working hard to improve the player experience.”

Realistic status of the Saints Row 2 PC patch...

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:fbm
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A cynic might say The Borg Embracer Group picked up a once valuable IP fairly cheap, got all the currently available money from porting the existing work to every platform available, then threw a bare bones intern project together to test the waters for its ongoing viability, funded almost entirely by an EGSclusivity deal moneyhat, before deciding if it was worth keeping, or reselling for what they paid for it after its been milked dry.

:kermit
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Post by: Nintex on November 20, 2022, 08:41:43 AM
Embracer is different from most other borgs.

They mostly let the studios to their own devices a bit like what Nintendo used to do in the N64 era with third party exclusives.
Overall they provide the financial stability a studio needs to bridge the gap from one game to the next and they share resources.

What a lot of these studios underestimate is how much talent they lost over the years. In most cases management thinks they can easily develop an open world game for example because they've done it before.
However they don't realize they've lost their most experienced developers (or promoted them to management roles) and the folks actually developing the game are mostly juniors working on their first large scale project.
Also there's a lot of artists out there but very few game designers. So they mostly stick to old formulas and ideas they can copy from previous work or other games.

It's very hard for studios to retain talent especially now that most developers want to WFH. You simply move to whatever pays more.
While before people were excited to work on Metroid they're now excited to get a $100k sign-on bonus to work on DLC for Fortnite.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Hamarr on November 28, 2022, 10:05:18 PM
Is this worth $35?  Or maybe $25 with MS funny money?
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: MMaRsu on November 29, 2022, 08:46:42 PM
Is this worth $35?  Or maybe $25 with MS funny money?

No good sir. Its not worth 10$
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: benjipwns on December 03, 2022, 04:02:40 AM
PATCH FOR AN OLD SAINTS ROW INCOMING:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_rU9-Z_mzg

 :teehee
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Kurt Russell on December 12, 2022, 07:04:29 AM
The big patch is up.  Checked Reddit, and unsurprisingly, there's still a crapload of problems that didn't get fixed.   :brain

Did they patch in the dildo yet?
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: bork on December 15, 2022, 08:01:10 PM
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/saints-row-ivs-forced-re-elected-upgrade-has-broken-players-saves-and-added-bugs

 :cmonson :notlikethis :waluigi :steel :wut :picard
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 15, 2022, 08:53:36 PM
What's really weird is that the SR3 remaster was a shockingly high quality product that must have had time and money thrown at it.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: pilonv1 on December 16, 2022, 05:11:55 AM
This should be one of the free EGS Xmas games`
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: MMaRsu on December 16, 2022, 06:03:44 AM
This should be one of the free EGS Xmas games`

(https://media2.giphy.com/media/xUPGcvs1sD2EwRkHM4/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: benjipwns on December 16, 2022, 12:24:52 PM
This should be one of the free EGS Xmas games`
I think Epic probably needs to make their money back on the exclusivity first.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: pilonv1 on December 18, 2022, 05:01:50 AM
This should be one of the free EGS Xmas games`
I think Epic probably needs to make their money back on the exclusivity first.

They might need to but they're probably not going to
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Svejk on December 21, 2022, 12:24:58 PM
30 buck on PSN right now... guess it's still not worth it, huh...
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 21, 2022, 12:29:55 PM
No.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: MMaRsu on December 22, 2022, 11:47:31 AM
They would probably need to pay me before Id play this over other games

My time is valuable
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: pilonv1 on May 06, 2023, 08:42:40 AM
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/saints-row-gets-a-combat-overhaul-next-week-alongside-map-expansion

Adding a new resort area and re-doing the combat. Still waiting for it to drop to free on EGS
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: MMaRsu on May 06, 2023, 09:45:21 AM
Give me my Saints Row 2 patch you fucknuggets
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: who is ted danson? on May 06, 2023, 10:31:01 AM
forgot this existed  :lol
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 06, 2023, 02:53:27 PM
AS ONE OF THE IDIOTS WHO BOUGHT IT: fair enough for sticking with it i suppose, but i bet its still pretty rotten.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: chronovore on May 07, 2023, 04:46:07 AM
Enh, I'll happily pat $20, maybe $30 to see if it's good.

I paid full retail for Gotham Knights so I feel like Volition deserves some money.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: MMaRsu on May 07, 2023, 07:08:33 AM
 :dayum :cac :jeanluc
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: bork on May 07, 2023, 09:16:46 AM
Enh, I'll happily pat $20, maybe $30 to see if it's good.

I paid full retail for Gotham Knights so I feel like Volition deserves some money.

I saw recently that Gearbox is handling development now and has made a huge number of changes for the upcoming patch and DLC release.  I'm also stil interested in checking the game out and have been patiently waiting for a price drop.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: thetylerrob on May 07, 2023, 01:33:42 PM
Enh, I'll happily pat $20, maybe $30 to see if it's good.

I paid full retail for Gotham Knights so I feel like Volition deserves some money.

I saw recently that Gearbox is handling development now and has made a huge number of changes for the upcoming patch and DLC release.  I'm also stil interested in checking the game out and have been patiently waiting for a price drop.
Enh, I'll happily pat $20, maybe $30 to see if it's good.

I paid full retail for Gotham Knights so I feel like Volition deserves some money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l60MnDJklnM

Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: bork on May 07, 2023, 02:31:49 PM
It has been so long that I forgot that Volition became a part of Gearbox following this game's disappointing release.  Still, has to be better for development, right...?
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 07, 2023, 03:02:22 PM
Idk its not like Gearbox aren't unfamiliar with dropping a stinker or five themselves.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: chronovore on May 07, 2023, 05:30:07 PM
It has been so long that I forgot that Volition became a part of Gearbox following this game's disappointing release.  Still, has to be better for development, right...?

I entirely missed that news, and now feel less hope.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: bork on May 08, 2023, 08:23:12 AM
It has been so long that I forgot that Volition became a part of Gearbox following this game's disappointing release.  Still, has to be better for development, right...?

I entirely missed that news, and now feel less hope.

I feel like it can only get better than it is now.

....I hope.  :(
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: MMaRsu on May 08, 2023, 08:28:27 AM
I have a lot of love for the old Saints Row franchise, but I don't quite understand you guys thinking this new one is even worth the time to play it. Let alone a monetary value.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 08, 2023, 12:28:07 PM
I have a lot of love for the old Saints Row franchise, but I don't quite understand you guys thinking this new one is even worth the time to play it. Let alone a monetary value.

Good old sunk cost fallacy. Was an explanation given about why they stopped after SR4? I thought it was pretty popular and sold well. It didn’t seem to need a reboot.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: MMaRsu on May 08, 2023, 12:36:26 PM
I think they just didnt know where to go after 4. Seems like a logical choice as to why it took so long and in the end they thought a reboot would work well. Take the series back to its roots somehow. No clue how they messed it up but I thought the last Volition game Agency of Mayhem was already really vapid and mediocre, so I never had high hopes for this reboot.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: bork on May 08, 2023, 09:28:25 PM
I have a lot of love for the old Saints Row franchise, but I don't quite understand you guys thinking this new one is even worth the time to play it. Let alone a monetary value.

Despite everything, it still looks fun to go mess around with.  Just not for full price.
:idont

I think they just didnt know where to go after 4. Seems like a logical choice as to why it took so long and in the end they thought a reboot would work well. Take the series back to its roots somehow. No clue how they messed it up but I thought the last Volition game Agency of Mayhem was already really vapid and mediocre, so I never had high hopes for this reboot.

You would have thought they'd have learned from Agents Of Mayhem's failure.  They did not.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: benjipwns on May 08, 2023, 11:18:41 PM
My understanding is that Volition has had a lot of turnover since IV, they may have been going "back" to Saints Row after Agents of Mayhem but I don't think it was exactly the same people at all.

According to mobygames the prior games are quite a ways down the list:
Quote from: https://www.mobygames.com/game/190216/saints-row/credits/windows/
Collaborations
People who have worked on this game have also collaborated on the creation of the following games:

Dead Island 2, a group of 255 people
Agents of Mayhem, a group of 242 people
Chorus, a group of 212 people
The Chant, a group of 186 people
Dolmen, a group of 184 people
Gungrave: G.O.R.E, a group of 176 people
Gods Will Fall, a group of 152 people
Saints Row IV, a group of 148 people
Iron Harvest, a group of 129 people
Saints Row: The Third - Remastered, a group of 125 people
Saints Row: The Third, a group of 124 people
Wasteland 3, a group of 113 people
Saints Row: Gat Out of Hell, a group of 107 people
Windbound, a group of 107 people
Phoenix Point: Year One Edition, a group of 89 people
Saints Row 2, a group of 85 people
Metro: Exodus, a group of 84 people
Relicta, a group of 82 people
Red Faction: Guerrilla, a group of 72 people
Red Faction: Guerrilla - Re-Mars-tered, a group of 72 people
Red Faction: Armageddon, a group of 67 people
Homefront: The Revolution, a group of 67 people
Shenmue III, a group of 61 people
Call of Duty: Black Ops IIII, a group of 60 people
Final Fantasy VII: Remake, a group of 59 people
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on May 09, 2023, 03:19:53 AM
I think they just didnt know where to go after 4. Seems like a logical choice as to why it took so long and in the end they thought a reboot would work well. Take the series back to its roots somehow. No clue how they messed it up but I thought the last Volition game Agency of Mayhem was already really vapid and mediocre, so I never had high hopes for this reboot.

"Not GTA" is really all they need to go with - literally an alternative type of sandbox to whatever GTA is doing.
GTA4 went super serial in tone, and had deliberately fucked up mechanics to make 'end game' feel more fun. By contrast, SR3/4 went goofy OTT and had you doing crazy shit from the get go - you get a fucking drone airstrike in like, the second or third mission.

So whether they go super subdued, small scale and ultra realistic (like, accurately model a small town where you can go inside every single unique habitat, every npc is unique, physics are real world rather than hollywood, whatever) or completely OTT and embrace the gameyness of it all, feeling different to GTA and thereby offering an alternative is still a viable niche.

Given the last GTA came out nearly 10 years ago (september 2013) and has pivoted to being a pseudo F2P MMO, theres a lot of scope for being different and leaning into it.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Bebpo on May 09, 2023, 03:41:29 AM
Even Saints Row IV was kind of so-so and was just a reskin matrix map of SRIII.

It's weird in that II and III rocked and then it's like they had no budget and had to do these reskins instead of making a full new map, new story, new SR and then they finally do that with this reboot but it's too late and the franchise is dead by then.

Just odd given that SRIII seemed like a big success that they didn't take their time with SRIV and make a proper full fledged new game.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Svejk on May 09, 2023, 08:53:47 AM
With the likes of what Volition did with the SRIII Remaster too, it did show that they do care about the Row... It's weird to me they didn't look like they put the same effort into the reboot.

But, alas, with their continuing road map, still no jiggle physics.   :stahp 
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: BIONIC on May 09, 2023, 09:12:44 AM
Remember when bore members were having meltdowns over this piece of shit and left the site in protest? :girlaff :neogaf :show
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 09, 2023, 09:23:03 AM
No, post quotes
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: BIONIC on May 09, 2023, 10:35:06 AM
no u
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Uncle on May 09, 2023, 06:29:23 PM
How is people getting fed up with modern progressive thinking not legit criticism? Everything about what they've shown makes me think they'll beat me over the head with their lukewarm "progressive" takes.

Because Saint's Row has always punched up and made fun of whatever's trending when it came out. The lieutenants very much look like a tongue in cheek handling of wokeness and millennials to me... like, has SR ever played anything straight?

Not to mention outside of twitter "wokeness" isn't even a thing, and anyone who claims it is invariably turns out to either have fallen for right wing propaganda or have been told at some point in their life not to say the n word

(https://media2.giphy.com/media/pSauCNBp1DcOY/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47psrh9jgao9ym22wqto18p6ehvl3v4ztgms9q1ccj&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)

Like seriously guys, are you worried that you're going to have to play through sensitivity training before a mission or some shit? gtfo

I agree with Cindy, gamers should be collectively thrown into the sea

The dregs of this shitty forum, 14 years on, have finely broken me. Later y'all, you all suck and have shitty taste.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 09, 2023, 06:44:05 PM
Played the patched version for about an hour, its less janky than i recall, but the game still is pretty rotten.

Its so fucking boring to play.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: bork on May 09, 2023, 09:57:36 PM
Even Saints Row IV was kind of so-so and was just a reskin matrix map of SRIII.

It's weird in that II and III rocked and then it's like they had no budget and had to do these reskins instead of making a full new map, new story, new SR and then they finally do that with this reboot but it's too late and the franchise is dead by then.

Just odd given that SRIII seemed like a big success that they didn't take their time with SRIV and make a proper full fledged new game.

It started out as an expansion to SR3 and then they just decided to turn it into a full game because of how large it got, IIRC.  I was bummed by the asset and map re-use, but it did feel like a different game since the play mechanics were changed up so much.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Bebpo on May 10, 2023, 01:34:00 AM
Even Saints Row IV was kind of so-so and was just a reskin matrix map of SRIII.

It's weird in that II and III rocked and then it's like they had no budget and had to do these reskins instead of making a full new map, new story, new SR and then they finally do that with this reboot but it's too late and the franchise is dead by then.

Just odd given that SRIII seemed like a big success that they didn't take their time with SRIV and make a proper full fledged new game.

It started out as an expansion to SR3 and then they just decided to turn it into a full game because of how large it got, IIRC.  I was bummed by the asset and map re-use, but it did feel like a different game since the play mechanics were changed up so much.

I mean it was fun, so I can't hate on it too much. Pretty much 100%'d it and enjoyed my time.

It just was like...ok, now where's the real SR4
...and then Gat Out of Hell.

Maybe these should've just been expansions like The Ballad of Gay Tony and then a real proper SR4. But instead it was those two and then Agents of Mayhem and then the new SR and it just killed the series momentum it had after SRIII.

Just a real shame.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: pilonv1 on May 10, 2023, 02:08:34 AM
Played the patched version for about an hour, its less janky than i recall, but the game still is pretty rotten.

Its so fucking boring to play.

Boring is a significantly worse sin than broken. There's a reason Eurojank is so popular
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: MMaRsu on May 10, 2023, 01:26:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7L7hQLFZro

It looks boring though

This is the new 10$ dlc you can finish it in 30 minutes
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: pilonv1 on June 10, 2023, 08:28:00 AM
Next expansion is some shitty horde more where you can't even use your own character

https://saintsrow.com/us/news/what-is-murder-circus

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You play as one of four contestants. The Boss has already aced it, so it’s time to put some new skills and combat styles to the test. There’s a former cop out for justice, the rightful heir to the Panteros who’s jonesing to take over, a big game hunter after his biggest prey yet, and a Murder Circus superfan who somehow got added to the roster. Each contestant has their own “Rival” - an ultimate boss they will face when they max out their level to truly test their mettle in this battle for infamy.

:goty

Have given up even wanting to play this for free and am trying to get Gentlemen of the Row working on my Steam Deck
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: benjipwns on June 17, 2023, 04:52:24 AM
Announced for Steam:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/742420/Saints_Row/
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 17, 2023, 06:30:40 AM
Might as well get the last few dollars they can from suckers via steam sales n shit I suppose :trumps

Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Svejk on July 17, 2023, 06:47:17 PM
Sooooo is it still not worth it for $23? On sale right now.  :doge
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 17, 2023, 07:32:52 PM
wait for gamepas/soy pass/egs free game imo. Unless you're absolutely desperate to play one of the dullest games I've played in years :trumps
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: MMaRsu on July 18, 2023, 03:01:04 AM
Sooooo is it still not worth it for $23? On sale right now.  :doge

No sirree
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 20, 2023, 10:57:27 AM
Announced for Steam:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/742420/Saints_Row/

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Saints Row contatins frequent violence with blood effects and portrays the rise of a criminal gang in a realistic modern day America. Frequent cursing, crude humor and sexual innuendos are present throughout the dialogue. The character editor allows the player to be naked including censored genitalia and uncovered breasts.

Biblically Accurate America :salute
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: bork on July 20, 2023, 12:30:47 PM
Sooooo is it still not worth it for $23? On sale right now.  :doge

No sirree

Have you played it?
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: MMaRsu on July 20, 2023, 03:24:37 PM
I see no need for such nightmares in my life
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: benjipwns on August 24, 2023, 08:57:57 PM
It's launched on Steam now and 67% off, so under $20.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: pilonv1 on August 25, 2023, 06:32:27 AM
67% off on release, should be almost free by Black Friday
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: MMaRsu on August 25, 2023, 12:11:02 PM
Dont do it...
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Bebpo on August 25, 2023, 08:25:35 PM
67% off on release, should be almost free by Black Friday

It's launched on Steam now and 67% off, so under $20.

Yeah, you know a game's bad when day 1 launch is 67% off  :lol
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: bork on August 26, 2023, 02:52:03 PM
I thought I might finally get it since it's priced right at under $20, but the user reviews largely indicate that the game is still a buggy mess and there's way too people saying it doesn't even work with controllers.
:nope
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Svejk on August 26, 2023, 03:05:58 PM
I thought I might finally get it since it's priced right at under $20, but the user reviews largely indicate that the game is still a buggy mess and there's way too people saying it doesn't even work with controllers.
:nope
:jeanluc
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Post by: MMaRsu on August 26, 2023, 07:27:44 PM
 :snob
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 28, 2023, 09:51:30 AM
Its apparently coming to soy pass next month :doge

My advice would be not to waste precious hard drive space on it, you could have something way more worthwhile taking up that 50 odd gig.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: bork on August 31, 2023, 08:13:53 AM
I decided the get it.  The question is...will it be even decent enough for $20 or will I be refunding it?  Let's find out!
:aweshum
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: who is ted danson? on August 31, 2023, 09:50:23 AM
Its apparently coming to soy pass next month :doge

My advice would be not to waste precious hard drive space on it, you could have something way more worthwhile taking up that 50 odd gig.

Like Starfield, or Forza Motorsport :philspencersmile
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Svejk on August 31, 2023, 10:40:17 AM
I decided the get it.  The question is...will it be even decent enough for $20 or will I be refunding it?  Let's find out!
:aweshum
Guess I'll be trying it out too next week.  :aweshum
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: benjipwns on August 31, 2023, 01:31:11 PM
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1697288775968174478
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: benjipwns on August 31, 2023, 01:32:22 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F438_tMaMAI_oHV?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: bork on August 31, 2023, 02:39:53 PM
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1697288775968174478

LOL, not looking good for this game.  :lol  Pour another one out for the Saints Row 2 PC patch.  RIP Idol Ninja.

This is not necessarily the end of Saints Row.  Deep Silver still owns the IP and rumor is that they are looking to have another game made.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 31, 2023, 04:15:21 PM
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1697288775968174478

They put their game on Sony Pass and then one day later they were out of business. Makes you think.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 31, 2023, 05:18:03 PM
I don't think anyone should be shocked by this, and I'm guessing all the main talent who made the games people liked bounced in between original THQ going bankrupt and now.

Bioware is probably next, especially seeing as both nu Dragon Age and nu Mass Effect are essentially vapour ware at this point.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Bebpo on August 31, 2023, 05:57:22 PM
Yeah, I liked Violition's old output, but it was pretty clear after the latest Saint's Row flopped extremely hard, that they weren't going to make it.  :-\
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: pilonv1 on August 31, 2023, 08:28:35 PM
SR2 PC patch :maf
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: chronovore on August 31, 2023, 08:54:05 PM
This is rough.

When Rockstar was still worrying about how to address 360/PS3 generation, Volition made a GTA-killer that shined on every level. Then as a follow-up, the sequel doubled down on the craziness and made it co-op. Sceneman and I had so many hours poured into SR2. Just amazing.

I’ve heard the work environment was oppressive, so maybe not the poster boy for healthy working life. I am grateful for their games though.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: bork on August 31, 2023, 09:18:18 PM
That was two flops in a row for them- Agents Of Mayhem didn't exactly light the world on fire, either.

I loved SR2 and SR3.  Those are my favorites and I'd love to see someone get SR2 working better on PC one day.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Himu on September 01, 2023, 12:48:13 AM
Utterly heartbreaking what happened. Thanks for the memories Volition.

The hardest thing to swallow is SR2 and Idolninja. This man literally died working on this game and it meant so much to him.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: pilonv1 on September 01, 2023, 07:09:06 AM
Almost everything about SR2 was perfect. Really wish we got to see the work Idolninja did as himu mentioned  :cry
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: bork on September 01, 2023, 07:53:35 AM
I don't pay attention to this side of things, but does SR2 on 360 run well with emulators?  Could be a viable workaround.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: bork on September 01, 2023, 08:07:18 AM
Initial impressions of Saint's Row 2022:

-Most of the characters seem to be just as terrible as videos pointed them out to be.  The opening scene with the dance party going on was straight cringe.  I liked that the big bodyguard dude appears to be a roided up Ben Affleck, though.

-The boss' voices are kind of "tame."  Just not as over the top as previous games.  This is a let down.  I had to change the English accent to one of the American ones because it just wasn't working.   :cry

-Character creation is still good although I didn't see a way to import Boss Factory characters- they never released the app for the Steam version either, lol.  I think you can get around this by changing appearances and entering codes via the phone?

-Forced (radio) music plays during the opening missions.  This has happened before but there's just something kinda lame about it this time around.  I mean, I like "I left my wallet in El Segundo" and all, but did we really need to just drive to the hideout for five minutes while this played? 

-The first mission where you're part of a mercenary group is pretty bad.  Just waves of dumb enemies that you shoot up with weapons with unlimited ammo.  Felt like a snoozefest.

-The second mission is a robbery but all you do is just drive and then run from the cops.  At one point, the game put me on a bike and after going over a hill and doing a big "cinematic" jump, my character hit the ground, slammed into a wall, and fell off the bike, which was right in front of me.  A timer popped up saying that I had like 15 seconds to get back on the bike, only I couldn't get the character to get on, time ran out, and the mission failed.  Clearly they did not fix all the bugs in this game.  The checkpoint was pretty close to this area, so restarting wasn't a big deal, but after making the jump and not crashing this time, I found that I was at the end of the mission and just needed to go a few more feet to complete it.  Why couldn't this be finished on foot?

-Not sure if this needs to be unlocked or if they removed it, but I couldn't find a way to run at someone and then take them down.  I really miss this from the older games.

That aside, the game play seems OK and it still feels like a Saints Row game, but a lot of the dialogue and story are just bad.  The easiest way to sum it up is with this gif:

(https://media.tenor.com/w6Ow10J0atMAAAAd/how-do-you-do-fellow-kids-steve-buscemi.gif)

They tried way, way too hard to appeal to a younger crowd and they really missed the mark.  And now they're shuttered.  The game doesn't really scream "woke" like some people made it out to be (at least so far), it's more like they just toned down a lot of the dumb, crude humor and replaced it with bland, boring story and characters instead.

I think I'm gonna keep it and play through the game, but I'm not expecting too much here.  $20 or less is definitely the right price for this.

EDIT: Forgot to mention performance on PC.  It's all right- I turned the settings up to maximum (but turned off motion blur) and got around 60-70 FPS average at 1600P.  There are some things in the game that look pretty good, but overall this doesn't really feel like a game that should be running at that low of a frame rate given what's going on most of the time.  I would have expected well over 100 FPS.
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Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 01, 2023, 10:06:14 AM
I still find the really good SR3 remaster to be one of the weirdest releases ever (in a good way), if theres anyone besides EA you'd expect to do a bare minimum cash grab "remaster" its whatever Embracer were called then, but they did it right.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: benjipwns on September 01, 2023, 04:54:24 PM
I don't pay attention to this side of things, but does SR2 on 360 run well with emulators?  Could be a viable workaround.
Xenia apparently emulates it well.

The PC version is fine too though, especially the GOG version which has the CPU limiter on by default. The PC version has been fine for over a decade as technology advanced past its issues, I have no clue why people have refused to play it. It wasn't even unplayable at the time, I had few issues with it personally and it's always had tons of options including more than the later games. Mike's patch was an upgrade with new content but it hasn't been necessary just to play the game normally.
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Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 02, 2023, 05:29:02 AM
That aside, the game play seems OK and it still feels like a Saints Row game, but a lot of the dialogue and story are just bad.

They tried way, way too hard to appeal to a younger crowd and they really missed the mark.  And now they're shuttered.  The game doesn't really scream "woke" like some people made it out to be (at least so far), it's more like they just toned down a lot of the dumb, crude humor and replaced it with bland, boring story and characters instead.

They actually got rid of some of the worst dialogue with one of the DLC updates.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: bork on September 02, 2023, 02:41:13 PM
That aside, the game play seems OK and it still feels like a Saints Row game, but a lot of the dialogue and story are just bad.

They tried way, way too hard to appeal to a younger crowd and they really missed the mark.  And now they're shuttered.  The game doesn't really scream "woke" like some people made it out to be (at least so far), it's more like they just toned down a lot of the dumb, crude humor and replaced it with bland, boring story and characters instead.

They actually got rid of some of the worst dialogue with one of the DLC updates.

This is kind of hilarious, but I guess counts as an improvement?  :lol
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: bork on September 02, 2023, 02:41:42 PM
I don't pay attention to this side of things, but does SR2 on 360 run well with emulators?  Could be a viable workaround.
Xenia apparently emulates it well.

The PC version is fine too though, especially the GOG version which has the CPU limiter on by default. The PC version has been fine for over a decade as technology advanced past its issues, I have no clue why people have refused to play it. It wasn't even unplayable at the time, I had few issues with it personally and it's always had tons of options including more than the later games. Mike's patch was an upgrade with new content but it hasn't been necessary just to play the game normally.

I never actually tried it on PC.  Always just read that it was a buggy mess and that Gentlemen Of The Row helped to fix issues.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: benjipwns on September 03, 2023, 10:18:48 AM
Well, I mean it's a buggy mess on consoles too, that's the engine. The problem with the PC version was common back then in ports, poor translation from the multi-core multi-threaded 360 CPU, but technology has more than solved that issue.

The Steam version actually has the inverse issue now (or did last I tried it), it runs at like 9000 fps with physics and inputs all similarly accelerated unless you have a CPU limiter, which is why I recommend GOG's as they're pretty used to having to fix that for old games and so did. Coincidentally, CDPR is the one who did the port.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: chronovore on September 03, 2023, 06:45:31 PM
That aside, the game play seems OK and it still feels like a Saints Row game, but a lot of the dialogue and story are just bad.

They tried way, way too hard to appeal to a younger crowd and they really missed the mark.  And now they're shuttered.  The game doesn't really scream "woke" like some people made it out to be (at least so far), it's more like they just toned down a lot of the dumb, crude humor and replaced it with bland, boring story and characters instead.

They actually got rid of some of the worst dialogue with one of the DLC updates.

This is kind of hilarious, but I guess counts as an improvement?  :lol

I worked on a well-known game that featured its first attempt at audio commentary. I was called in the last three weeks of development to “fix“ it. It was unfixable.

I told them the best thing they could do is add an option in settings. That players could at least turn it off. I encountered remarkable resistance, but they did it.

In reviews, the commentary system was called out for being completely putrid, and “the only real benefit is that at least it can be turned off.“
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Svejk on September 09, 2023, 12:56:57 PM
Loaded this up... loaded my boss factory character.. as soon as I step out of the vehicle confirming that it still has the same, meat-headed, unisex, walking animation with not even an ounce of a feminine vibe or jiggle for my vixen boss...

(https://media.tenor.com/EJt_KvKrg7MAAAAC/liar-liar-liar-movie.gif)
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: chronovore on September 17, 2023, 07:29:43 AM
It’s free on PS+ so I downloaded it.
The opening feels free of consequence. I don’t think it allows the player to die.
Gunplay feels leaden and dull.

C’mon, son…
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: MMaRsu on September 17, 2023, 08:26:11 AM
Not worth the disk space or your time I assure you lol
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: MMaRsu on December 30, 2023, 10:51:52 AM
Free on EGS

Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: benjipwns on December 30, 2023, 05:40:41 PM
Tim Sweeney delivers yet again. :playa
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 31, 2023, 12:46:27 AM
still too much
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: pilonv1 on January 01, 2024, 12:23:03 AM
Ghostrunner for me, must have missed it, oh well
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: chronovore on January 11, 2024, 03:24:35 AM
I’m like 12 hours in, and really enjoying it.

The activities feel like classic SR 1&2 action: violence, crassness, a bit of jank. Bumping into another faction during a job can liven things up in a hurry. I had some trouble understanding how to “progress ventures” in the Empire mode. As every venture requires place,ent, then being transported to the site for an initial conversation, it is wildly counterintuitive to then leave the player without having them actually perform the activity. Turns out they’re al, over the map, but I spent (cough) WAY too long looking at the business site for how to initiate the associated activity.

There is a heap of options for player-characters. The phone’s Sharing menu in game allows access to a bunch of cool Boss designs from the community.

I wish the driving felt better; it’s pretty flat compared to other OWG. Even Fortnite cars feel better than these. Still better than Watch_Dogs Legion driving though!

They probably should have delayed launch until they had more bugs ironed out. I don’t know how bad it was, but my suspicion is that the edgelords who chant “go woke, go broke” and stomped on the McDonald’s countertops when their Rick and Morty McNugget Sauce ran out had more to do with the failure than anything valid.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: MMaRsu on January 13, 2024, 10:47:51 AM
"edgelords who chant “go woke, go broke” and stomped on the McDonald’s countertops when their Rick and Morty McNugget Sauce ran out had more to do with the failure than anything valid. "

The writing is probably just shit like most of their work post Saints Row 3
devoid of any passion and knowledge of your fanbase
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: chronovore on January 15, 2024, 01:21:37 AM
"edgelords who chant “go woke, go broke” and stomped on the McDonald’s countertops when their Rick and Morty McNugget Sauce ran out had more to do with the failure than anything valid. "

The writing is probably just shit like most of their work post Saints Row 3
devoid of any passion and knowledge of your fanbase

The writing feels a lot like SR3. The Boss is a scoundrel who will do anything for his crew. I've heard there were re-writes to focus on "friendship," but in any earlier entry, Boss would do any-fucking-thing for Gat, Shaundi, or Pierce. There is actually less emphasis on Kevin, Neenah, and… I wanna say "Urkel"?

The main difference from SR1 and SR2 is the focus on Activities rather than set-piece missions with one-off scripting for enemies. That trend started with SR3, and definitely was the focus from SR4 onwards.

Anyway, as someone who loves the series, and did not enjoy the first couple hours, I can genuinely say that I've warmed to it.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2024, 11:09:49 AM
...Interesting. Very interesting. I might it try it some time. Thank you for your thoughts, sir.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: Svejk on January 16, 2024, 11:32:10 AM
My take on it, was the walking and idle animations were very canned and unisex.  :yuck In SR3, you could do a slow, sexy supermodel walk with jiggle physics.  Doesn't exist in this game.  That was a deal breaker for me.  :dislike
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: chronovore on January 26, 2024, 07:07:12 AM
I liked all the weird animations for walking in previous SR games, but I spend most of my time running (no stamina limitation, fuck you GTA and Fortnite) or wingsuit-gliding, so I hadn't noticed that it's not present.

I'm probably not playing the game the way devs intended. I'm already at the final, fourth tier of the Empire building, but still haven't done many story missions. I'll be shocked if the story missions scale much. There are only 20 character levels to achieve, but unlocking perk slots requires cash, upgrading weapons requires cash, so I suspect once my Empire is complete I will be a Walking Embodiment of Death.

From GTA III through the end of the PS2 set of them, I always play as many side missions as I can. Gettin unlocks to be more powered up during the story always felt like a big advantage. SR 2022 keeps that feeling, I like it.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: bork on January 30, 2024, 12:53:02 PM
https://insider-gaming.com/saints-row-veterans-form-new-studio-shapeshifter-games/

:thinking
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: benjipwns on February 03, 2024, 04:42:57 AM
https://insider-gaming.com/saints-row-veterans-form-new-studio-shapeshifter-games/

:thinking
Looks like this team is mostly people who worked on the recent game. Only one of the team worked on anything before Agents of Mayhem, most only on the latest Saints Row.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: bork on February 03, 2024, 09:32:11 AM
https://insider-gaming.com/saints-row-veterans-form-new-studio-shapeshifter-games/

:thinking
Looks like this team is mostly people who worked on the recent game. Only one of the team worked on anything before Agents of Mayhem, most only on the latest Saints Row.

 :noooo
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: benjipwns on February 04, 2024, 01:30:25 AM
I noticed lots of games media using the same "Saints Row veterans" language, which is not wrong but is somewhat misleading, not a single games journalist apparently took five minutes to look at them on Linkedin which is linked in their announcement before publishing. :lol
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: pilonv1 on February 05, 2024, 02:56:41 AM
Why would games journalists do journalism?
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: chronovore on February 11, 2024, 04:44:30 AM
Kicked off a mission that had a warning attached to it, turned out to be the final mission. It's long-ish but not nearly as difficult as Saints Row 1 or 2, or any of the GTA III, VC, SA, or IV missions were. Those were maddening, and I'm grateful for games that put something I can finish as the final story mission. Shit, just save the hard stuff for the side missions, let regular joes finish the fucking game.

Watching the SR2022 staff roll, it starts with a dedication to two devs who died during the making of the game, both younger than I am. Then it moves to a long set of credits with lots of pictures of the devs teams at all kinds of events and settings, it looks like they tried to get a picture of everyone in there.  Thinking about players pissing on the game when these are the people who put everything into the game, only to have it come out, get trashed, and then Embracer shutters the studio -- well, it hurts. They deserved better.

Though I finished the game, I am going to keep playing through the activities, maybe try for platinum, though I usually don't care about trophies. A lot of heart went into this game.

Pros

Cons
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: MMaRsu on March 05, 2024, 01:29:55 PM
You got me debating wether I should give my Humble Saints Row Steam key away here or redeem it myself  ???
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: chronovore on March 06, 2024, 02:49:43 AM
I certainly enjoyed it enough. I didn’t end up sticking with it to finish out all the side activities, because when I finish the main mission in an open world game I rapidly lose interest. That’s just me as a gamer. While I was playing it I really enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Saints Row reboot :|
Post by: benjipwns on March 08, 2024, 02:21:11 AM
I have a key if someone would like it.