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Title: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: mormapope on January 24, 2022, 09:46:25 PM
https://youtu.be/ZqLa5qOVsQg
https://youtu.be/9C3UkIQcR9g

M rated Final Fantasy origin story for a villain from 1987, with some baller ass DMC style bosses, Jack Garland the limp Bizkit fan being set up for tragedy.

 :lawd :lawd :lawd

Eldest Ring chose the wrong time to come out
 :hitler
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 24, 2022, 09:52:37 PM
This game looks like garbage and the joke about it has gotten obnoxious. It looks like a crap game.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: demi on January 24, 2022, 11:24:15 PM
Pass on derivative dark souls mod 7, see you in paradise  8) 8)
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Himu on January 24, 2022, 11:41:53 PM
The fact this has the name Final Fantasy on its cover is sadness distilled.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: bork on January 24, 2022, 11:42:38 PM
This game looks like garbage and the joke about it has gotten obnoxious. It looks like a crap game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8SdU_vJudk
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Bebpo on January 25, 2022, 12:14:04 AM
Looks like a lot of fun. Excited to play this.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 25, 2022, 02:17:16 AM
Jack Garland rocking the set, it's like Russian roulette when you're placin your bet
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: thetylerrob on January 25, 2022, 03:07:26 AM
Haters will be ashamed of their words and deeds. Obvious GOTY 2022.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 25, 2022, 08:46:43 AM
This shit (Jack Fantasy) looks so hot and I'm not even a souls or its knock offs fan :rejoice
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Svejk on January 25, 2022, 09:04:30 AM
Y'all have fun getting lost in paradise chaos Final Fantasy Devil's Third 2  :huh  Wish I could get the so bad it's good feel, but I can't even.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 25, 2022, 11:36:28 AM
Y'all have fun getting lost in paradise chaos Final Fantasy Devil's Third 2  :huh  Wish I could get the so bad it's good feel, but I can't even.
This. I laughed originally, but this game just looks shameful. I’m embarrassed for FF.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Bebpo on January 25, 2022, 12:03:35 PM
Y'all have fun getting lost in paradise chaos Final Fantasy Devil's Third 2  :huh  Wish I could get the so bad it's good feel, but I can't even.
This. I laughed originally, but this game just looks shameful. I’m embarrassed for FF.

How is this more embarrassing than FF13?
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: paprikastaude on January 25, 2022, 12:26:13 PM
I haven't played the test, but Nioh 2 was the most fun Team Ninja game yet, so. :idont

Also, this would fit right in with PS2 shit like FFX-2 and Dirge of Cerberus, or the FF movies, don't kid yourselves  :lol  FF simply didn't evolve storytelling-wise and you didn't know better as a teen. Same with Kojima games.

I personally never liked FF stupidity compared to other Japanese shlock, because it's overly pretentious, so I would have still rather had Nioh 3.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 25, 2022, 12:35:31 PM
Y'all have fun getting lost in paradise chaos Final Fantasy Devil's Third 2  :huh  Wish I could get the so bad it's good feel, but I can't even.
This. I laughed originally, but this game just looks shameful. I’m embarrassed for FF.

How is this more embarrassing than FF13?
:trumps I liked FFXIII.

I don’t like NiOh and I think visually this game looks like garbage. The whole edgy tone and vibe is extremely unappealing and goofy.

But I mean if you guys want to spend $60 on a joke by all means.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: HardcoreRetro on January 25, 2022, 12:49:06 PM
But I mean if you guys want to spend $60 on a joke by all means.

I only know one thing: I want to kill Chaos. I need to. It's not a hope or a dream. It's like a hunger. A thirst.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: bork on January 25, 2022, 01:01:04 PM
Y'all have fun getting lost in paradise chaos Final Fantasy Devil's Third 2  :huh  Wish I could get the so bad it's good feel, but I can't even.

Imagine if this is like the next Devil's Third
 :gladbron

spoiler (click to show/hide)
On the real, this might be a fun action game, but I expect it to bomb and get dumped on the cheap quickly enough.
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Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Bebpo on January 25, 2022, 02:15:56 PM
Rahx, sorry but FF has had dumb & edgy & cringy stuff for decades.

FF is my favorite franchise of any medium and I love it, but I also don't put it on a pedestal of some high art and can enjoy the dumb lolz stuff like all of FFX-2, Gackt Genesis, Dirge bros in FF7 Intergrade or CHAOS. I unironically enjoy the shit out of Advent Children.

Plus this should actually play pretty well since it's essentially Nioh FF. It's fine. Sometimes you get FF fanservice all cute & endearing like World of FF and then sometimes you get FF fanservice where you explode a goblin into a fountain of blood.

My only real complaint from the trailer is the Lich re-design is beyond terrible. The other 3 elemental lords aren't great, but they're serviceable, but Lich has always been a cool ass creepy skeleton and this design is not it.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 25, 2022, 02:18:39 PM
Oh I never said FF hasn’t had dumb and cringe stuff before. Even things in Endwalker are making me make faces.


This just looks bad. From the same cringe mindset that brought us Quantum Theroy or whatever the other edgy 360 era things Japanese developers thought they had to make to appeal to the west.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: mormapope on January 25, 2022, 10:51:12 PM
I'm getting a strong feeling that we haven't heard a lot of actual dialog from the game. As in, I'm expecting F bombs and lots of crudeness. Strong language is part of that M rating.

"Fuck the crystals, give me chaos"
"You're a motherfucker, ya know that Jack?"
"Isnt it time to hit the road Jack?
Fuck off"

One can only hope.
 :dsp
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: paprikastaude on January 25, 2022, 11:46:09 PM
I'm getting a strong feeling that we haven't heard a lot of actual dialog from the game. As in, I'm expecting F bombs and lots of crudeness. Strong language is part of that M rating.

"Fuck the crystals, give me chaos"
"You're a motherfucker, ya know that Jack?"
"Isnt it time to hit the road Jack?
Fuck off"

One can only hope.
 :dsp

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/veSFrIVKXOY/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Tasty on January 26, 2022, 01:15:42 AM
I'm getting a strong feeling that we haven't heard a lot of actual dialog from the game. As in, I'm expecting F bombs and lots of crudeness. Strong language is part of that M rating.

"Fuck the crystals, give me chaos"
"You're a motherfucker, ya know that Jack?"
"Isnt it time to hit the road Jack?
Fuck off"

One can only hope.
 :dsp

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/veSFrIVKXOY/maxresdefault.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76aURZLOmto

:rock
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Let's Cyber on January 26, 2022, 05:27:18 AM
Oh jesus after reading the thread title, I thought SE actually had this releasing on Feb. 25th.  :lol

I trust Team Ninja to put out a solid action game. That's the nicest thing I can say.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Himu on January 26, 2022, 06:59:55 AM
Rahx, sorry but FF has had dumb & edgy & cringy stuff for decades.

FF is my favorite franchise of any medium and I love it, but I also don't put it on a pedestal of some high art and can enjoy the dumb lolz stuff like all of FFX-2, Gackt Genesis, Dirge bros in FF7 Intergrade or CHAOS. I unironically enjoy the shit out of Advent Children.

Plus this should actually play pretty well since it's essentially Nioh FF. It's fine. Sometimes you get FF fanservice all cute & endearing like World of FF and then sometimes you get FF fanservice where you explode a goblin into a fountain of blood.

My only real complaint from the trailer is the Lich re-design is beyond terrible. The other 3 elemental lords aren't great, but they're serviceable, but Lich has always been a cool ass creepy skeleton and this design is not it.

I love FF and don't think it's high art (besides FFVI which I actually think is) and it can be cheesy and cringe but I agree with Rah that this just looks bad. It looks funny though so it'll be worth playing.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Svejk on January 26, 2022, 08:33:15 AM
Didn't realize it has multiplayer... Well, this should be at least better than the recent Dark Alliance.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: tiesto on January 26, 2022, 10:12:11 AM
Rahx, sorry but FF has had dumb & edgy & cringy stuff for decades.

FF is my favorite franchise of any medium and I love it, but I also don't put it on a pedestal of some high art and can enjoy the dumb lolz stuff like all of FFX-2, Gackt Genesis, Dirge bros in FF7 Intergrade or CHAOS. I unironically enjoy the shit out of Advent Children.

Plus this should actually play pretty well since it's essentially Nioh FF. It's fine. Sometimes you get FF fanservice all cute & endearing like World of FF and then sometimes you get FF fanservice where you explode a goblin into a fountain of blood.

My only real complaint from the trailer is the Lich re-design is beyond terrible. The other 3 elemental lords aren't great, but they're serviceable, but Lich has always been a cool ass creepy skeleton and this design is not it.

I think there are different types of cheese levels that may or may not be tolerable to some people.

As a weeb I'm perfectly fine with pop star Yuna, or Sabin suplexing a giant train, or the villain turning into a splinter to attack a sentient turtle... but the 360-era edgy dudebro "attempt to appeal to the west" is a turnoff.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Nintex on January 26, 2022, 05:29:49 PM
The game looks great but I'm afraid it's going to be sandwhiched between Elden Ring, Horizon Forbidden West and Triangle Strategy.

Square Enix is also sending BABYLON'S FALL out to die it seems.

Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Bebpo on January 26, 2022, 05:54:13 PM
The game looks great but I'm afraid it's going to be sandwhiched between Elden Ring, Horizon Forbidden West and Triangle Strategy.

Square Enix is also sending BABYLON'S FALL out to die it seems.

I don't have a lot of faith in Triangle Strategy.

imo as a big srpg fan of the 32bit days, there hasn't been a good traditional grid-based srpg outside Fire Emblem since like Tactics Ogre PSP remaster, Wild Arms XP or even FFT. And FE plays a bit different so it doesn't really count to me.

Every once and a while they try to make a new tactics srpg but they always capture some of the magic but fail on the rest. Like the quality of life stuff will suck and it'll be slow and clunky, or the story will be bad, or it will have bad map design, or ugly art, etc...

It's a genre that just hasn't seen a great game in like 15-20 years. I'd love there to be another great one, but I have the lowest of low expectations for modern attempts at tactics srpgs.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Nintex on January 26, 2022, 06:11:37 PM
The game looks great but I'm afraid it's going to be sandwhiched between Elden Ring, Horizon Forbidden West and Triangle Strategy.

Square Enix is also sending BABYLON'S FALL out to die it seems.

I don't have a lot of faith in Triangle Strategy.

imo as a big srpg fan of the 32bit days, there hasn't been a good traditional grid-based srpg outside Fire Emblem since like Tactics Ogre PSP remaster, Wild Arms XP or even FFT. And FE plays a bit different so it doesn't really count to me.

Every once and a while they try to make a new tactics srpg but they always capture some of the magic but fail on the rest. Like the quality of life stuff will suck and it'll be slow and clunky, or the story will be bad, or it will have bad map design, or ugly art, etc...

It's a genre that just hasn't seen a great game in like 15-20 years. I'd love there to be another great one, but I have the lowest of low expectations for modern attempts at tactics srpgs.
The Octopaths and Triangles reminds me a bit of what happened with 2D platformers when they returned to consoles in the Wii / Wii U era.
First they didn't really improve and were arguably not as good as the 16/32-bit classics they were based on and by the time they finally started to improve on the source material with games like Donkey Kong: Tropical Freeze it was too late.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 26, 2022, 08:22:04 PM
The game looks great but I'm afraid it's going to be sandwhiched between Elden Ring, Horizon Forbidden West and Triangle Strategy.

Square Enix is also sending BABYLON'S FALL out to die it seems.
As a Platnium fan and Square Enix stan it pains me to say that...

that game also looks like garbage.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Bebpo on January 26, 2022, 08:28:43 PM
The game looks great but I'm afraid it's going to be sandwhiched between Elden Ring, Horizon Forbidden West and Triangle Strategy.

Square Enix is also sending BABYLON'S FALL out to die it seems.
As a Platnium fan and Square Enix stan it pains me to say that...

that game also looks like garbage.

The difference between CHAOS and Babylon's Fall is at least Chaos will have good gameplay. Ironic given that it's Platinum.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Pissy F Benny on March 02, 2022, 09:23:21 AM
Just 16 days until the Game of The Decade comes out bois :hyper

Elden Ring? More like get in the bin :rodney
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Nintex on March 02, 2022, 09:45:54 AM
This will go on the legendary 'did not meet expectations' pile and has GamePass written all over it.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 02, 2022, 09:56:15 AM
I hope this game is stupid as hell.  :jeb
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Bebpo on March 02, 2022, 03:07:25 PM
I feel like Stranger of Paradise is probably not gonna hit 97 MC
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: BIONIC on March 02, 2022, 03:45:39 PM
I feel like Stranger of Paradise is probably not gonna hit 97 MC

Yeah, it’s gonna hit an unprecedented 101  :jeb
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: remy on March 02, 2022, 07:17:59 PM
Ni oh 2 was a banger, this game is going to fuck
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: remy on March 02, 2022, 07:18:28 PM
unironically skipping Elden to come into sop fresh as possible
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 02, 2022, 07:42:37 PM
unironically skipping Elden to come into sop fresh as possible
:mindblown
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: remy on March 02, 2022, 09:30:39 PM
I don't play Ubisoft open world trash I'm here to kill chaos ;)
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: MMaRsu on March 03, 2022, 03:48:59 AM
U cray cray
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 04, 2022, 09:06:39 PM
I mean I do have to say, it has looked better and better.

But it kind of sucks that in the multiplayer side, that your co-op buddy does not save their own progress.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 07, 2022, 05:34:40 AM
hey is chaos in this thread, asking for a friend
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Beezy on March 09, 2022, 05:50:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C-maLQ4hvk

FF Gaiden looking decent.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Bebpo on March 09, 2022, 06:21:37 PM
Demo's out that's the beginning of the game and save progress transfers to the full game.

Might give it a shot but I'm not playing this for months since I still gotta start & beat Elden Ring first.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: naff on March 09, 2022, 08:21:47 PM
idk how you can shit talk the funny edginess of Stranger of Paradise but be hype for the other generic fantasy anime trash looking shite Square Enix is putting out. SoP is at least doing something quirky and interesting beyond the most generic of fantasy anime themes.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Bebpo on March 10, 2022, 03:27:38 AM
Tried the demo. I didn't play beta #2 and wtf this is a completely different game than beta #1.


The first demo was Nioh with FF skin, typically hard ass souls game with some fun mechanics. Decently slow progression like Souls. This demo is like 10x faster and you have 2 buddies and there's more enemies at once and you aren't taking as much damage and it feels more like a DMC action game? It's really, really fast paced.

It's fun still, was using puglist fists and punching the crap out of everything. But it felt like a weird game and was different than what I expected. Also the cutscene direction and town stuff is pretty awful and the framerate/graphics are sort of terrible on PS5. I think this is a "get on PC" kind of game unless the port is botched just for a smoother framerate.

Didn't really sell me on day 1 full price. Probably grab it on a steam sale at some point.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Nintex on March 12, 2022, 06:30:05 AM
https://twitter.com/aitaikimochi/status/1502336655264346112 (https://twitter.com/aitaikimochi/status/1502336655264346112)
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Bebpo on March 14, 2022, 01:59:21 PM
Game's reviewing fine. Outside the one NME outlier review, it's mostly 8s.

Reviews also confirm it's ez mode accessible Souls that's more God of War masher than Souls carefulness. Maybe different on the higher difficulty levels.

Sounds like an alright $20 pick up later on. Or gamepass game.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 14, 2022, 11:58:38 PM
This gon hit the bargain bins quick, I'll be on board
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: demi on March 15, 2022, 04:34:34 PM
I will buy it day one and tell Square Enix I want more of this and less by the numbers Dark Souls 4
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Nintex on March 15, 2022, 05:47:09 PM
https://twitter.com/aitaikimochi/status/1503811700591820800 (https://twitter.com/aitaikimochi/status/1503811700591820800)

This game goes hard  :lol
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Pissy F Benny on March 15, 2022, 06:14:45 PM
edge and may mays >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boring medieval spooky shit
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Svejk on March 15, 2022, 06:26:52 PM
 That's not how you kill CHAOS.  :hmph That was a weak ass gut punch.  Would've been more impressed with a back hand pimp slap.

(https://y.yarn.co/475cfce2-a8b3-416d-b524-fbcbb516daea_text.gif)

Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Nintex on March 15, 2022, 08:02:04 PM
https://twitter.com/enigma0451/status/1503513501314293762 (https://twitter.com/enigma0451/status/1503513501314293762)

I'm too busy with Elden Ring but I really feel like I 'need' this game.
Time to try out the demo I guess :idont
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Bebpo on March 15, 2022, 08:11:56 PM
That clip is awesome but also it ending a second too early is  :notlikethis
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 15, 2022, 10:06:46 PM
What the hell is this game?
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Bebpo on March 15, 2022, 11:07:30 PM
What the hell is this game?

comedy gold?
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Bebpo on March 16, 2022, 01:57:49 AM
I gave the demo another shot after reading some gameplay and visual tips (resolution mode/HDR OFF) and I'm actually digging it now. Probably will pick it up. Just debating whether to play it before Elden Ring since it's short (20-25 hours) after I finish up Horizon 2.

Your AI partners seem to break the game tho? Like on Garland phase 2 I hung back and my AI dudes killed the boss for me lol
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Bebpo on March 16, 2022, 09:45:30 PM
Welp, bought this after playing the demo some more. Still don't fully understand the combat flow, but it's a lot of fun. Hard mode doesn't seem bad either other than mini-bosses/bosses hitting harder, but the AI partners really make things easier. Like doing every souls boss in co-op.

After putting some time in this definitely feels like one of the best action FF spin-offs. It's like Dirge if it was on PS3 and actually good gameplay.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Beezy on March 16, 2022, 11:24:28 PM
I didn't know this was already out. Sounds like the type of ridiculous shit I'd enjoy. Fuck it, I'm in.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Bebpo on March 17, 2022, 03:17:36 AM
FYI for anyone thinking of the PC version (which is exclusive to Epic store):

https://twitter.com/StickmanSham/status/1504025128132300804


I was gonna wait for PC version, but after turning HDR off (because it's broken) and resolution mode on PS5 which holds mosssstly 60fps with dips, it looked fine (like a PS3 game) and performance was no Elden Ring and was pretty much fine so I just jumped in and got it on PS5 to nab the pre-order weapons. Looks like it was the right choice haha.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: bork on March 17, 2022, 07:39:17 AM
Expecting the price on this to drop really quick.  Will maybe check it out then or just look at Youtube clips of all the stupid dialogue. 

:jeb
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Bebpo on March 17, 2022, 02:16:49 PM
Expecting the price on this to drop really quick.  Will maybe check it out then or just look at Youtube clips of all the stupid dialogue. 

:jeb

I think you'd like it. You like Devil May Cry, right? Plays like a PS2/PS3 DMC-lite with a bit of souls and a bit of musou.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Beezy on March 18, 2022, 09:23:17 AM
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1504807136152285186

Haven't seen any other deals or platform comparisons.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Nintex on March 19, 2022, 07:52:18 AM
Played the demo a bit.

This game, wow  :doge

Biggest letdown for me is the image quality, it looks so blurry.
Hopefully they'll manage to fix that. Everything else is broken too but in a good way and I like the gameplay loop.

All the angst :rejoice
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Bebpo on March 19, 2022, 02:15:47 PM
Played the demo a bit.

This game, wow  :doge

Biggest letdown for me is the image quality, it looks so blurry.
Hopefully they'll manage to fix that. Everything else is broken too but in a good way and I like the gameplay loop.

All the angst :rejoice

Turn off HDR and play in resolution mode.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Pissy F Benny on March 19, 2022, 02:21:07 PM
How do you fuck up HDR in this day and age :oreilly

(I'm holding off on playing the demo cos I know I will cave and buy it and I really don't need another game atm given all the shit I still have to beat)
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Bebpo on March 20, 2022, 01:54:03 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/mxxrqQEh.jpg)
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Bebpo on March 20, 2022, 01:57:35 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/LO2KvHKh.jpg)

Difficulty's starting to pick up at Stage 4. Was running on hard because normal feels like easy mode DMC, but had to drop down to normal on stage 4 because getting 1-2 shotted. Liking the level design. Feels like the one Souls bit. Stage 3 in the Western Keep has a nice design.

The combat is great and a lot of fun. Boss fights if you don't cheese them with your AI buddies are good fights full of learning patterns, dodging and parrying. My only real complaint about the combat is you don't have invuln period when you get knocked down so enemies/bosses can occasionally knock you down and then kill you with a 2nd hit before you can get up which feels cheap to me. Otherwise combat is good and fair.

So far having a lot of fun with this. Oh yeah and resolution mode was keeping pretty close to 60fps until Stage 4. Once the weather effects kick in the framerate dies haha. So jank.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Bebpo on March 20, 2022, 07:29:55 PM
This game is legit good. The combat is really solid. Lots of mechanics to juggle but tons of build variety with the different FF jobs.

Running Knight mostly right now as I head to unlocking Paladin. With Knight I'm buffing my shield so it reflects a % of damage on block, so instead of parrying, blocking attack strings and then countering in with slashes and dodging unblockable attacks. Pretty fun. Need to start leveling some of the other jobs I have though as I'm sure there's some real good skills I'm missing out on.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 20, 2022, 09:31:43 PM
Its going to be funny when I find out I like this and not Elden Ring(which after my time with it I can say I dont).
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Bebpo on March 20, 2022, 10:06:29 PM
Its going to be funny when I find out I like this and not Elden Ring(which after my time with it I can say I dont).

Maybe?

Fwiw, I hear if you can get past the style of JACK, that the story is actually good and comes together well in the end like a legit FF/KH crazy Nojima game. Nojima is my favorite plot writer at SE so I'm enjoying the weirdness and mystery.

Also the cutscenes don't jump around in the real game to the degree they do in the weird intro. It's pretty easy to follow after that.

And this is the first jrpg where the JP audio is available but I'm playing in English because the JP cast are not in on the joke while the ENG cast is.

The Japanese language is too polite to fully express Jack.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 20, 2022, 11:49:57 PM
Already sounds like a better time to me.

Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Bebpo on March 22, 2022, 03:23:24 AM
So this game's actually pretty hard lol

Going to try to keep my pride and make it through the whole thing without dipping into easy mode. Even if it means fighting bosses like a dozen times over and over until I get past them.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 24, 2022, 10:05:59 AM
I thought this game would be easy after Elden Ring, but then I got bodied by Garland. Where's my broken Bleed weapons? I have to dodge now?? 😭
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: demi on March 24, 2022, 10:46:06 AM
This game has full story co-op you could just wait and let me do it
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 24, 2022, 11:24:57 AM
I only played the first level.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Bebpo on March 24, 2022, 04:52:07 PM
lol, wait until you get to Tiamat.

This game is good stuff. Bosses much more DMC technical than Souls. Game will really get your character action parry/block/dodges/pokes skills back. Though if you google there tends to be some cheese tactics for each jobs given the amount of job variety. Always some skill in there that destroys a boss. I like looking up the boss after I beat it and see all the ways.

Like for Tiamat, if you want to cheese there are:

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Lancer lance throws at Tiamat heads will wreck them
Void Knight has an absorb ability that if you use on tri-darkness in phase 2 and then fire it back it'll one-shot the phase 2 of the boss.
[close]

I'm finding it a lot easier to play ranged than melee doing bosses normally. Just hang back and parry/dodge/block each attack and fire off a spell when you can. It's slow and takes a while but if you get all the attacks down can do it without taking too much damage. At melee range I always find myself locked into a slash animation when the boss starts a new move and I get hit. If you could soul shield instantly out of melee attack animations it'd be so much better. With range you have less of an issue with this outside when you start a spell and then the boss jumps on you while you're in the spell animation.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Bebpo on March 26, 2022, 06:59:01 PM
BEAT IT.

Gonna grab lunch then will write up some thoughts. Was great. Hard, but great. Final boss took me an hour but almost no-damaged it by the time I was done.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Rahxephon91 on May 07, 2022, 09:10:04 PM
Played through this. Kind of thought it was shit.

I mean it was fun at first and yeah it's really not a Souls like. The game sure does offer lots of options and neat ways to mix and match jobs. The jobs also have cool things that set them apart. But maybe a little too much for my pea brain as I lost interest trying to figure out what abilities were best to slot in for your R2 combo stuff.

But in the end, I grew very tired of the game. The story did go off the rails and was funny, but I just didn't really enjoy it. Just feel like insanity for the sake of it and the end it stopped being fun or funny.

I also don't know what the fuck Team Ninja thinks loot is supposed to be. My eyes glazed over with all the loot you get, making me want to not engage with this system.

But most importantly the enemy variety and level design is just simply garbage. Like jesus could I not believe I was playing a game with such cheap level design on my PS5. Gives Tales a run for the money in copy and paste box room level design. I'm not even sure how I got through the game as I just felt like I was wondering around levels that looked the same with no implication that a human actually cared and made them.

I don't know, not a game I'd recomend to anyone.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 08, 2022, 12:23:32 AM
:(

Sorry it didn't click with you.

I thought the level design was...fine? It felt like a jrpg dungeon design. Like the FFXV stage or the FF7 stage. The enemies were good? Patterns to learn, fun to fight. Bosses were almost all great.

The loot is trash I agree 100%, but otherwise I disagree and for my personal tastes I had fun the whole time and not just for the lulz. I think it's legit a very good good action game.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: VomKriege on May 08, 2022, 03:26:52 AM
Possibly spoilers, I think ?
https://youtu.be/mZavtHhk508
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: demi on May 08, 2022, 11:26:19 AM
Game rules, catch this L+Ratio
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Nintex on May 08, 2022, 03:44:20 PM
I liked the demo but it didn't run very well so I'm waiting for this to release on GamePass or get way cheaper.

Overall to me it seems like Platinum Games should've made it as opposed to Team Ninja as it fits their brand of well, weird shit.
On the other hand it's been a while since Bayo 2 and Rising so who knows if they can still make great games like that.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Bebpo on May 08, 2022, 04:15:08 PM
Eh, considering this is a much better game than Babylon's Fall...

Also TN made Nioh 1/2 and NG so this fits their brand even if it's more action than Nioh.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Nintex on May 08, 2022, 05:00:20 PM
Eh, considering this is a much better game than Babylon's Fall...

Also TN made Nioh 1/2 and NG so this fits their brand even if it's more action than Nioh.
That's funny you mention Babylon's Fall. Because I think Team Ninja would've made a better GaaS game than Platinum Games.
Square Enix should've swapped the devs of the projects.  :thinking
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Tycoon Padre on May 10, 2022, 06:38:13 AM
I've beaten this twice now after getting bored on my first two Elden Ring starts and switching, please call a doctor I think something is wrong
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: paprikastaude on May 11, 2022, 05:54:09 AM
Now upgrade to Nioh 2  :esports
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Svejk on May 11, 2022, 10:15:34 AM
Now upgrade to Nioh 2  :esports
Is the first recommended to play through before this, or would it be ok to jump straight to Nioh 2?
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: paprikastaude on May 11, 2022, 11:36:55 AM
It's more fun than 1, but there's quite a lot of new mechanics build on top off an already big arsenal of mechanics in 1. I imagine you'd have a harder time without some of the first game's mechanics in your muscle memory.
Title: Re: STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN vs. Eldest Ring
Post by: Svejk on May 11, 2022, 01:13:40 PM
It's more fun than 1, but there's quite a lot of new mechanics build on top off an already big arsenal of mechanics in 1. I imagine you'd have a harder time without some of the first game's mechanics in your muscle memory.
Word.  I do have the first one, so I'm likely to jump on it after ER.