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Title: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: james on February 28, 2022, 10:58:57 AM
Scientific poll to gauge public sentiment.

And if concerned, are you stocking up on supplied like Doritos, mountain dew, and pepto bismol.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: mormapope on February 28, 2022, 11:07:03 AM
Being an American that doesn't live on a coast, I'm not feeling anxiety over a nuke dropping on my head.

If I was European, I'd be anxious about things popping off. Europe being nuked in any way would change civilization for a very long time.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on February 28, 2022, 11:24:30 AM
I'm fully protected from global thermonuclear war by the anthropic principle. I would simply drift into a timeline where it didn't happen.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: benjipwns on February 28, 2022, 11:39:25 AM
Look, they've got a lot of them, but those things remain Russian constructed.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 28, 2022, 11:48:55 AM
I'm posting from the The Bore Admin Bunker as the Designated Survivor.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: Transhuman on February 28, 2022, 12:14:28 PM
Even if he gave the order, unless Putin is arming these nukes personally I think it would be another Stanislav Petrov situation where protocols arn't followed. Nuclear war is suicide, that's probably not lost on the guys whose job it is to turn the key.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: james on February 28, 2022, 12:27:29 PM
Even if he gave the order, unless Putin is arming these nukes personally I think it would be another Stanislav Petrov situation where protocols arn't followed. Nuclear war is suicide, that's probably not lost on the guys whose job it is to turn the key.

Thats what I think. Putin might get to the point where he feels he has nothing to lose....but everyone else below him might not agree and wont follow through
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: BisMarckie on February 28, 2022, 12:44:13 PM
I'm posting from the The Bore Admin Bunker as the Designated Survivor.

Would you let me if I procure 20TBs worth of vtuber content?
Gotta be boring in there.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 28, 2022, 12:48:27 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: BisMarckie on February 28, 2022, 12:49:37 PM
Enjoy dying out there, suckers.

Meanwhile,Joe and me: :uguu
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: who is ted danson? on February 28, 2022, 01:04:58 PM
Suppose you have 8L, 5L and a 3L bucket with you. The buckets have no measurement lines on them and you are asked to measure exactly 4L of cum using the three buckets. How could you measure exactly 4L cum using only those buckets and provided you have as much extra cum as you need ?
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: ToxicAdam on February 28, 2022, 01:06:47 PM
If Putin aims for the porn servers, I give us all about 14 days until society crumbles.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: benjipwns on February 28, 2022, 01:09:46 PM
Enjoy dying out there, suckers.

Meanwhile,Joe and me: :uguu
Make sure you go in prepared:
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1479521666854264838
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: BisMarckie on February 28, 2022, 01:22:00 PM
I don't know this doesn't really say bunker food to me.

I just want to eat some beans and watch Cars 2.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: james on February 28, 2022, 01:37:15 PM
Im a little sus about the orange juice. Is it basically tang?
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: Nintex on February 28, 2022, 01:43:56 PM
Not concerned at all.

I'd rather die in a flash than be a slave to a demented Russian Czar and his orc army.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: Kurt Russell on February 28, 2022, 01:53:08 PM
We're all going to die, James. May as well be from a nuke rather than cancer or heart disease.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: BIONIC on February 28, 2022, 01:54:37 PM
Take me home daddy Putin  :jeb
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: Uncle on February 28, 2022, 02:57:25 PM
Suppose you have 8L, 5L and a 3L bucket with you. The buckets have no measurement lines on them and you are asked to measure exactly 4L of cum using the three buckets. How could you measure exactly 4L cum using only those buckets and provided you have as much extra cum as you need ?

fill 3

3 -> 5

fill 3

3 -> 5 (leaving 1 in the 3)

3 -> 8

fill 3

3 -> 8 (leaving 4 in the 8)
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: thetylerrob on February 28, 2022, 03:02:26 PM
Suppose you have 8L, 5L and a 3L bucket with you. The buckets have no measurement lines on them and you are asked to measure exactly 4L of cum using the three buckets. How could you measure exactly 4L cum using only those buckets and provided you have as much extra cum as you need ?
coding interviews be like:

heyoooooooooo
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: benjipwns on February 28, 2022, 03:04:47 PM
Nevermind, starting to get concerned now:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMqIxIkWUAk5MKL?format=png&name=small)

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMf4gPwUYAY3grY?format=png&name=900x900)
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Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: tiesto on February 28, 2022, 03:20:40 PM
Suppose you have 8L, 5L and a 3L bucket with you. The buckets have no measurement lines on them and you are asked to measure exactly 4L of cum using the three buckets. How could you measure exactly 4L cum using only those buckets and provided you have as much extra cum as you need ?

fill 3

3 -> 5

fill 3

3 -> 5 (leaving 1 in the 3)

3 -> 8

fill 3

3 -> 8 (leaving 4 in the 8)

I suck at these kinds of problems but cant you just:
1. Fill 5, take that and use it to fill 3, so you'll have 2 left over in the 5 bucket.
2. Take that 2 left over in the 5 bucket, dump it in the 8 bucket.
3. Repeat the first 2 steps, now the 8 bucket should have 4 in there
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: benjipwns on February 28, 2022, 03:23:26 PM
Enjoy dying out there, suckers.

Meanwhile,Joe and me: :uguu
Quote from: https://www.ready.gov/nuclear-explosion
STAY INSIDE
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...

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Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: BisMarckie on February 28, 2022, 03:34:16 PM
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/776137560459444244/946436044906168330/fmvyvysuyaavw_e-jpeg.png)
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: Potato on February 28, 2022, 03:40:24 PM
Suppose you have 8L, 5L and a 3L bucket with you. The buckets have no measurement lines on them and you are asked to measure exactly 4L of cum using the three buckets. How could you measure exactly 4L cum using only those buckets and provided you have as much extra cum as you need ?
Who is asking to measure the cum if everyone else outside the bunker is dead or a radiation zombie?
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: Nintex on February 28, 2022, 03:40:55 PM
https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1498395806029828100 (https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1498395806029828100)

 :kermit
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: team filler on February 28, 2022, 03:44:13 PM
I'm ready for madmaxx style living  :sicko me n karla will repopulate the earth  :hump

Being an American that doesn't live on a coast, I'm not feeling anxiety over a nuke dropping on my head.

If I was European, I'd be anxious about things popping off. Europe being nuked in any way would change civilization for a very long time.
change it for the better tbh  :yeshrug
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: james on February 28, 2022, 03:56:32 PM
If you are sick and need medical attention, contact your healthcare provider for instructions.

Cant wait to be packed into a moldy basement shelter on hold with Aetna while Im trying to figure out if the doctor at the fallout shelter is covered by my plan and I can get my anti-radiation pills without a copay
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: benjipwns on February 28, 2022, 04:15:13 PM
Cant wait to be packed into a moldy basement shelter on hold with Aetna while Im trying to figure out if the doctor at the fallout shelter is covered by my plan and I can get my anti-radiation pills without a copay
We are currently experiencing a high volume of calls due to the nuclear apocalypse, please hold, your call is important to us.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: Nintex on February 28, 2022, 05:00:00 PM
:rogan "Yeah it was crazy and look I'm no radiation expert Alex. I'm just saying this is what worked for me. I took my iodine pills, took a bath, smoked weed and hid in the fridge"

:info "On CNN they tell you that's fake, because that's what they do in the movies. I hear a lot of guys where touching their ding dongs when it went down"

:rogan "These movies are on to something man. So how do you feel about the election, got any favorites?"

:info "I think Lindell is the guy Joe. I mean, Florida is just gone now and so is the Washington deepstate, Elon left earth but we no longer have to worry about Russia or China"

:rogan "Yeah, I can't believe they nuked each other, so tell me how did we end up nuking ourselves. Do you know?"

Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: Tasty on February 28, 2022, 05:02:48 PM
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/66/20/3f/66203fc0c2da680ce53c174625a3e07c.jpg)
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: Polident Hive on February 28, 2022, 05:03:02 PM
Have a standing desk that can raise over my height. Don’t even need to duck to get covered.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: OnlyRegret on February 28, 2022, 08:27:14 PM
Suppose you have 8L, 5L and a 3L bucket with you. The buckets have no measurement lines on them and you are asked to measure exactly 4L of cum using the three buckets. How could you measure exactly 4L cum using only those buckets and provided you have as much extra cum as you need ?

1) Fill 5L bucket and dump it into the 3L bucket. You now have a filled 3L bucket and a 5L bucket with 2L in it.

2) Dump the 3L bucket and fill it with the rest of the 5L bucket. You now have a 3L bucket with 2L and the 5L bucket empty again

3) Fill the 5L bucket and then fill the 3L bucket till it is full. You now have a filled 3L bucket and a 5L bucket with 4L in it.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: Tasty on February 28, 2022, 08:28:57 PM
Ngl had a few thoughts last week over what a call with mom and/or dad would be like should some kind of nuke alert come across all our phones in the middle of the day.

Assuming the networks wouldn't get clogged instantly.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on February 28, 2022, 09:22:52 PM
The fuck are you all worrying about, just think good thoughts and that nuclear bomb will pass right through you.

https://mobile.twitter.com/jcenters/status/1498335479628017666
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: mormapope on February 28, 2022, 09:48:17 PM
For those concerned, why and where are the first nukes gonna be used?

With quite literally every Western country pouring resources into intelligence gathering on Russia, as soon soon as any silo or nuclear launcher is prepped, incredibly harsh retaliation would take place against Russia. If there's even a nuclear fart, multiple weapons and probably nukes would be launched against Russia.

I'm not saying it's impossible for Putin to get a nuke thrown somewhere, but this will be a very fast game if things pop off.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: Occam on March 01, 2022, 03:39:12 AM
Suppose you have 8L, 5L and a 3L bucket with you. The buckets have no measurement lines on them and you are asked to measure exactly 4L of cum using the three buckets. How could you measure exactly 4L cum using only those buckets and provided you have as much extra cum as you need ?

fill 3

3 -> 5

fill 3

3 -> 5 (leaving 1 in the 3)

3 -> 8

fill 3

3 -> 8 (leaving 4 in the 8)

I suck at these kinds of problems but cant you just:
1. Fill 5, take that and use it to fill 3, so you'll have 2 left over in the 5 bucket.
2. Take that 2 left over in the 5 bucket, dump it in the 8 bucket.
3. Repeat the first 2 steps, now the 8 bucket should have 4 in there

There is an even simpler solution that does not require the 8L bucket.
Fill 3L bucket, pour it into 5L bucket. Fill 3L bucket and pour it int 5L bucket again. 1L remains in 3L bucket.
Empty 5L bucket, pour remaining 1L from 3L bucket into 5L bucket. Fill 3L bucket again, pour it into 5L bucket.
5L bucket now contains 4L.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: Snoopycat_ on March 01, 2022, 08:08:39 AM
It's Scotland. Nobody would notice. Might actually improve some places.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: Nintex on March 01, 2022, 08:09:11 AM
For those concerned, why and where are the first nukes gonna be used?

With quite literally every Western country pouring resources into intelligence gathering on Russia, as soon soon as any silo or nuclear launcher is prepped, incredibly harsh retaliation would take place against Russia. If there's even a nuclear fart, multiple weapons and probably nukes would be launched against Russia.

I'm not saying it's impossible for Putin to get a nuke thrown somewhere, but this will be a very fast game if things pop off.
We could see everything happen on the borders and they still moved in. Russia's nuclear strike will be exercises until they are not or an accidental hit on Chernobyl as they retreat.

They now want to Denazify Germany. WW2 cost millions of Russian lives. So why not prevent another world war and nuke Berlin instead? After all didn't the Americans do the same to Japan to prevent a costly invasion, the hypocrites! What is Russia to do? Wait for Macron and Scholz to march and drive on Moscow like Napoleon and Hitler? They have already provided the weapons to kill Russian soldiers in Kyiv and Kharkiv!

Coming soon to a Russian theatre near you


I say we strike at Belarus from Poland citing the nuclear threat after yesterday's vote. They have already violated international law on multiple occassions too. Putin then has to decide to cancel the campaign against Ukraine or lose his ally. Lukashenka is weak and would broker a seperate peace deal with the allies to save his own skin.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 01, 2022, 09:54:16 AM
It's Scotland. Nobody would notice. Might actually improve some places.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaUNhqnpiOE

Nature can finally start healing.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: BIONIC on March 01, 2022, 10:02:53 AM
It's Scotland. Nobody would notice. Might actually improve some places.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaUNhqnpiOE

Nature can finally start healing.

:aloy
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: chronovore on March 01, 2022, 06:29:51 PM
Im a little sus about the orange juice. Is it basically tang?

That’s day 2’s urine.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: james on March 03, 2022, 07:43:46 PM
https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1499543863974838279
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: SmokyDave on March 04, 2022, 04:58:59 AM
If you can't immediately recognise 4 litres of cum without resorting to measuring buckets, you've no place in my shelter.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: remy on March 04, 2022, 05:04:26 AM
Suppose you have 8L, 5L and a 3L bucket with you. The buckets have no measurement lines on them and you are asked to measure exactly 4L of cum using the three buckets. How could you measure exactly 4L cum using only those buckets and provided you have as much extra cum as you need ?
Pour a full 5l into the 3L, then the 2L left in the 5L into the 8L twice.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: Nintex on March 04, 2022, 05:18:35 AM
Putin's nuclear threats are meaningless he is so scared to die he won't even sit next to people and hides in his bunker.
A nuclear war would kill him. If we don't stop him just because he has nukes than no country is safe or able to defend itself, NATO or not.

Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: Nintex on March 05, 2022, 07:42:17 PM
It's Scotland. Nobody would notice. Might actually improve some places.
You say this in jest but after Putin's comments today and his clear threat to the UK ("I will remember this") I think he would nuke jolly old England first.

No matter how you slice it, it is still the most formidable military power in Europe when it comes to being able to deploy quickly.
Most importantly it was the one 'prize' the Germans could not take when they attacked western Europe because it would take an amphibious or air assault.
The Russians could grind their way to the coast of Holland and France with tanks, trucks and trains but not to the UK.

Not to mention it would be a 'single' target as an island and force the rest of Europe into submission without doing any damage to the lands to be conquered.
It has no meaning to the Russian or Orthodox world and if the aim is to destroy the rulebook of the west and capitalism than England provides little more than banks and services the Tsar does not require.
There is no vast manufacturing capability like in Germany, large farmlands like in France or a massive port, logistics and energy hub like in Holland.
It's a fortress and vault that would never submit and Putin can do without and as a nuclear hazard would form a formidable barrier for any US based navy force.

If he would ever nuke something it would be the big floating rock.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: Kevtones on March 06, 2022, 04:27:26 AM
My wife and I bought new construction up in Eugene, Oregon but we currently live in Los Angeles. We don’t move until June. I’m trying to convince her to move sooner because of my minor concern.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: Snoopycat_ on March 08, 2022, 08:48:42 PM
Is anyone else getting tired of these Russians and Ukrainians running about the place. It was fun at first but enough already. Tanks and fields for days. It's too much. Get over it. Move on. Let's give China their moment.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: team filler on March 08, 2022, 08:52:48 PM
I hope I never have to hear about the ukraine again for the rest of my life after this tbh  :pacspit
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: james on March 08, 2022, 09:30:37 PM
My wife and I bought new construction up in Eugene, Oregon but we currently live in Los Angeles. We don’t move until June. I’m trying to convince her to move sooner because of my minor concern.

Yeah move now before fire season renders it uninhabited in July
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: headwalk on March 08, 2022, 10:46:26 PM
nukes would solve all and any problems you might have, while the new problems they create would be over in a flash.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: james on March 08, 2022, 11:14:42 PM
nukes would solve all and any problems you might have, while the new problems they create would be over in a flash.

Theres a work project due in June ive been pulling off and a nuke after memorial day would clear things up nicely for me
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: Uncle on March 09, 2022, 08:39:33 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/NCBbE22.png)
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: james on March 11, 2022, 10:10:44 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1502294454572826624

 :pika
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: MMaRsu on March 11, 2022, 10:12:11 AM
He really wouldnt be that fucking stupid would he?
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: Transhuman on March 11, 2022, 11:08:10 AM
(https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/2b444c7d9b83e8cc85b721e18d086aa8)
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Cronobyl
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Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: chronovore on March 11, 2022, 10:02:39 PM
He really wouldnt be that fucking stupid would he?

It's not clear how much he understands about it, and how his cronies may be filtering information. But, yes, apparently his army is THAT FUCKING STUPID.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: Nintex on March 12, 2022, 06:26:21 AM
Every sentence that starts with "Would Putin" can now be ended with: "Yes he would"

He made his goal very clear. He wants NATO to return to its 1997 borders and the US to remove their nuclear weapons from Europe. He also wants to undo the 'national states' like Estonia and Latvia created after the collapse of the Russian Empire.
It is unlikely that at this time anything can stop him from trying achieve it. If he is willing to rain down bombs on Kyiv, which is the 'cradle'  of Russian civilization he won't shy away from bombing cities further west and he has in recent days.
As close as 50km from the Polish border.

However, first in the firing line is everything and everyone not aligned with NATO. As the US has made their red line clear: NATO territory.
Which means Georgia and Moldova are fucked. And it is damn near certain he will conquer them or attempt to. Much like in Ukraine Russia already has rebel provinces there.

It is unclear what happens next, probably an attempt close the Suwalki gap and taking Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania.
Once Ukraine falls some of these states might even be pressured or corrupted to leave NATO and demilitarize to become 'neutral' or 'vassal' states.
I think he will settle for neutrality or a coup or starts some seperatist bullshit again in those regions. Short of armed conflict between militaries as that would trigger a NATO response as long as they are in NATO.

Then it becomes less certain what the plan is. Finland is not in NATO but part of the EU.
Poland is in NATO and the EU. He won't wage a ground war as far as France but will probably settle for German neutrality and a chunk of Poland that once belonged to the Russian Empire.

It won't stop at Ukraine, in fact that's where the nuclear threat becomes real as he would be able to 'safely' deploy short range and tactical nuclear weapons further west than he can now.
That would tip the scales in a 'convential' war that the Russians can't win. They can only defeat NATO by deploying nuclear weapons on troops and armor concentrations.
Their military doctrine and planning is very much open to this idea to gain the upper hand in a large armed conflict.

All we can do is buy time by keeping Ukraine in the fight and decoupling from Russian energy. Which according to the EU can be fully achieved by 2027.

I don't buy this idea that a no-fly zone would trigger a nuclear war. In fact, I believe Putin would welcome it as it would allow him to shoot down NATO aircraft outside of NATO territory.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: james on March 23, 2022, 08:46:59 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Global_Mil_Info/status/1506787070546780162
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: Leadbelly on March 28, 2022, 06:33:17 PM
Russia is a very big country. The UK is a small one. We may let a few nukes off, but I fear it would be like a scratch. Maybe not a scratch, more like a big bruise.

You know, if Russia nuked Ukraine, I'm not sure what would happen. Possibly nothing. I'm not sure any nuclear power would want to go there.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: Nintex on March 28, 2022, 07:41:12 PM
If Russia nukes Ukraine Europe will respond as the fallout would likely reach NATO territory.
However the question is which type of nuke they deploy and what they fire it at.
Nuking Kyiv for instance will elicit a different response than using a tactical nuke on a large armored formation.

The UK is a very likely target after that. I would say these are the most probable targets in order:
0. Tactical Nuke on military target in Ukraine
1. Kyiv, Ukraine
2. 'training/testing ground' in a NATO state
3. NATO units that are a 'threat' to Russia
4. Warsaw, Poland
5. London, UK
6. Tokyo, Japan (to force China to pick a side)
7. Washington/New York, US

Poland and the UK are probably the most likely to start a conventional war against Russia when Ukraine falls and the Russians push on. There's not much in terms of natural barriers like rivers or mountains to defend Poland and since that's where NATO and the EU begin the Polish/German border is now one and the same strategically. Russia can't win such a war so nuking Warsaw or London (or both) would force surrender from every state (Germany, Baltics(if not yet conquered), Denmark, Netherlands etc.) in between and cause the least damage to the 'prize'. The Russians don't believe in Mutual Assured Destruction (never have) and prefer the 'Escalate to De-escalate' doctrine.
They think that once the first nuke drops everyone will make their own decisions depending on the target and circumstances. And looking at how things are progressing currently they're probably right.

US would always be last on their list, because as long as they only attack European states some in the US will likely argue to stay out of the (nuclear) war.
Especially if states like Germany don't want to fight against the Russians.


Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: Hamarr on March 29, 2022, 12:00:39 AM
Somewhat concerned.  On the plus side, all of the Cold War era fear of nuclear war songs are relevant again.

https://youtu.be/28z5aTiN4UI
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: james on October 07, 2022, 03:34:13 PM
https://twitter.com/tvykruta/status/1570954529172254722

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1578184585891876866

https://twitter.com/AAPSonline/status/1578029462020509701

https://twitter.com/stacyliberatore/status/1578051843271397376

:pika



Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 07, 2022, 03:47:38 PM
Not concerned. Putin doesn't seem suicidal. A nuclear attack on Ukraine wouldn't win him the war, and instead would just get his army decimated by the US air force.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: james on October 07, 2022, 04:46:31 PM
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Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: Polident Hive on October 07, 2022, 05:05:42 PM
Not concerned. Putin doesn't seem suicidal. A nuclear attack on Ukraine wouldn't win him the war, and instead would just get his army decimated by the US air force.

This next to the prediction Avatar won’t cross $250 million…

Gonna go stock up on canned beans.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: Nintex on October 07, 2022, 05:11:53 PM
He made Kadyrov a general so he's listening to the Ultra Nationalists who want him to use a nuke.
They've lauched this idea of a 'low yield' nuclear weapon.

With that said Russia has reconfirmed that it believes nuclear war should be avoided at all costs.
The longer this conflict goes on the more likely it is that Russia will deploy a nuclear weapon.

The danger is that Ukraine can't really defeat them, so as long as Russia thinks it can win it will try all their options to win.

The Dutch PM poured some additional oil on the fire today by stating that even just a nuclear test that violates the international rules will have catastrophic consequences for Russia.

https://twitter.com/EndGameWW3/status/1578491994024054784 (https://twitter.com/EndGameWW3/status/1578491994024054784)

The Ukrainians are starting to discover something else on the battlefield that's very worrying.
The Russians aren't rotating or redeploying their troops nor are any allowed to go on leave. They're not pulling well trained and skilled airborne or special forces from the front lines.
Instead they put them in trenches to rot along with the LNR/DNR troops.

The theory is that Moscow wants to bury the truth about what is really happening in Ukraine (the locals not being in their favor and the lack of any NATO hordes) so they don't want their troops to come back.
Which means that America's threat of destroying the Russian military in Ukraine in case a nuclear weapon is used is not as effective as they think it is.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: chronovore on October 08, 2022, 06:41:52 PM
Russians proved in WW II that a pyrrhic victory is still a victory in their books.

That said, Putin knows that using a nuke will prevent Russia from acting on the international stage. They might as well shut their country off from the rest of the world. No-one will deal with them, and any amount of retaliation from other countries is automatically justified. It would be suicide on a national level.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: Nintex on October 08, 2022, 08:13:44 PM
At some point it's more about saving face.
Medvedev said any attack on Crimea would be met with an immediate judgement day response. So now the Russians are asking what's taking so long.
Title: Re: How concerned are you about Mr. Putin launching a nuke?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 08, 2022, 08:44:49 PM
After this embrassment of an invasion, I'd say its 60-40 that whatever nuke they could drop would be a dud.