Are we allowed to be negative about Disney superhero kiddy movies, or will Bork remove the posts again?This is the cape shit thread so as long as you stay on topic I don't see an issue :idont
Return of the Snyder verse?I mean, he's just still under contract, he's always said he wants to do more. The "Snyderverse" and its roots for the DCEU has never gone away, all the highest grossing DC films outside of Batman are "Snyderverse" films. Black Adam clearly fits into the DCEU. The biggest ongoing threat to the "Snyderverse" appears to be many of the actors.
Are we allowed to be negative about Disney superhero kiddy movies, or will Bork remove the posts again?
I for one was harshly cancelled.
I just assumed the great tumblr logged in for once :trumps
There's some simmering capeshit / culture war bullshit about the xmen in the MCU thats inevitably going to boil over whatever gets announced, between the "CAST ANYTHING BUT A WHITE MAN" :gamergate crowd for magneto / xavier, and the "THATS RIGHT, DENY A JEWISH HOLOCAUSE SURVIVOR" :social2 crowd
There's some simmering capeshit / culture war bullshit about the xmen in the MCU thats inevitably going to boil over whatever gets announced, between the "CAST ANYTHING BUT A WHITE MAN" :gamergate crowd for magneto / xavier, and the "THATS RIGHT, DENY A JEWISH HOLOCAUSE SURVIVOR" :social2 crowd
The whole Snyder Cut bots bullshit from rolling stone is the author re(eeee)litigating an existing dislike of the whole movement, because at some point for some reason (which I cannot recall at all why) the usual Twitter woke-warriors lumped in the Snyder cut movement together with the alt-right and gamergate. I think a lot of that gestated out from the “Marvel/Disney=progressive, Snyder/DC=Nazis” types.
Damn :ohhh maybe James was right and we do need a stupid capeshit thread…
They are totally going to kill T'Challa offscreen aren't they?
Still think they should have just recast. Tchalla is a big character, bigger than his actor.
And I can't say I'm interested in Namor without him.
twitter.com/MurrellDan/status/1550924247274606592FACT CHECK: He bailed:
I disagree.
During the Hickman run the interplay between Tchalla and Namor was great. The constant contrast between how they rule and Namor pretty much egging him on was some of the best parts of secret Avengers. As kings they play off each other great. A movie about two kings fighting each other sounds interesting and a way to match Killmonger. You won’t get that now.
I disagree.
During the Hickman run the interplay between Tchalla and Namor was great. The constant contrast between how they rule and Namor pretty much egging him on was some of the best parts of secret Avengers. As kings they play off each other great. A movie about two kings fighting each other sounds interesting and a way to match Killmonger. You won’t get that now.
With all the multiverse stuff going on I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually bring in a Black Panther variant that's basically replacing Bosman
So superficially Namor is Aquaman? His character blurb here reads that he’s a half Atlantean, half human.
So superficially Namor is Aquaman? His character blurb here reads that he’s a half Atlantean, half human.
Namor is also a mutant. Wonder if they're going to mention that for the movie version.
:thinking
One thing for Doom is that he's going to be mask on 97% or 100% of the time. It's been done before (Darth Vader) and I think playing full CG characters with little to no face likeness to the comedian is more acceptable and accepted now. But you need an actor with great physicality, great voice, everyone being OK with no face and being recognizable still. Or go the Star Wars of having separate body and voice acting (and stifling the stuntman) but I wouldn't think it'd fly today.
I don't think the Eternals are getting a sequel.
I liked the movie though.
galactus feels like the only significant existential threat left for a second thanos-style wrap-up as everyone teams up to fight the big bad
I don't think the Eternals are getting a sequel.
I liked the movie though.
In the trademarks filed with all these new movies, there’s one called Celestials which seems like Eternals sequel. Feige also mentioned Eros and Pip’s cosmic adventure being an active part of the MCU. It’s happening.
galactus feels like the only significant existential threat left for a second thanos-style wrap-up as everyone teams up to fight the big badI think the Galactus telegraphing is obvious but also I don't spend my life obsessing about finding "clues" to Kevin Feige's masterplan so what do I know.
Kang is the next big-bad.
well, considering he is played by a black actor and isn't given alien skin: much like how Wanda was not allowed to have been defeated by a man
There's some simmering capeshit / culture war bullshit about the xmen in the MCU thats inevitably going to boil over whatever gets announced, between the "CAST ANYTHING BUT A WHITE MAN" :gamergate crowd for magneto / xavier, and the "THATS RIGHT, DENY A JEWISH HOLOCAUSE SURVIVOR" :social2 crowd
You don't need to resort to future hypotheticals here.
it is possible that setups will go so poorly they'll resort to a Riann -> JJ move and beg someone to fix it all by any means necessary, only then will you get egregious fan service that trumps culture concerns (to as much a detriment to the end product)Somehow Thanos has returned...
You don't need to resort to future hypotheticals here. Like do you believe that the only reason why it was T'Challa and not Ross that killed Killmonger was because it had to be a black actor or because it made sense for the story? That's always how this culture war talk starts here: hypotheticals about what social justice warriors think or are secretly plotting to the detriment of artistic vision. Hell this post was just 15 into the threadThere's some simmering capeshit / culture war bullshit about the xmen in the MCU thats inevitably going to boil over whatever gets announced, between the "CAST ANYTHING BUT A WHITE MAN" :gamergate crowd for magneto / xavier, and the "THATS RIGHT, DENY A JEWISH HOLOCAUSE SURVIVOR" :social2 crowd
Cap: "Get in the car kid!"
Spider-Man: "Ooh shit, we're out of gas"
Cap: "Damn there goes this years defense budget"
Captain America: New World Order
https://twitter.com/CultureCrave/status/1552043458570752001
Some people seem to be upset by this but I figure it makes kind of sense since they're already changing the cultural background of the character
Is there a problem with the Atlantis mythos or something?
Is there a problem with the Atlantis mythos or something?
It's just to separate it from Aquaman who is more famous. No reason to try to compete with Jason Momoa.
Aquaman made like a billion dollars and shot its star into major stardom.Is there a problem with the Atlantis mythos or something?
It's just to separate it from Aquaman who is more famous. No reason to try to compete with Jason Momoa.
Seems like a real dumb reason since MCU is way bigger than DCU,
but Aztec design looks cooler than Greek design so whatever it's fine.
Bats cant go underwater you absolute imbecilesThen explain how COVID got to New Zealand. I'll wait.
I'll take knock-off Indy in any form I can get it.
Tomb Raider is close enough to cape shit. They’re rebooting the movies (again) away from the Alicia Vikander one. Games, too. Gotta wondering if they bring back big dick Lara shooting dinosaurs with two pistols in hot pants. Jolie was perfect for that style, quality of movies notwithstanding. Or just bring her back and do the Tron Legacy thing.
Zhao confirmed
Glad they aren't course correcting. Celestials are cool. Give me more of that stuff in MCU.I think this was going to happen anyway, Marvel also seems much more willing to take the lumps with a bad movie or show (by one standard or another) that's setting up something they still think will work down the road. Hulk, Thor 2, Iron Man 3, none of that stopped them throwing those characters into everything. Feige probably really wants to get to FF and seemingly Galactus, so fuck it. Eternals 2 or whatever it becomes probably won't get a $500 million budget but I also kinda expect it to be better if it shifts out of trying to be a tent pole alongside the Avengers and X-Men.
DCU films are a textbook case study in a business not having any sort of strategic plan aside from "do what the competition is doing".Glad they aren't course correcting. Celestials are cool. Give me more of that stuff in MCU.I think this was going to happen anyway, Marvel also seems much more willing to take the lumps with a bad movie or show (by one standard or another) that's setting up something they still think will work down the road. Hulk, Thor 2, Iron Man 3, none of that stopped them throwing those characters into everything. Feige probably really wants to get to FF and seemingly Galactus, so fuck it. Eternals 2 or whatever it becomes probably won't get a $500 million budget but I also kinda expect it to be better if it shifts out of trying to be a tent pole alongside the Avengers and X-Men.
Compare to WB freaking the fuck out on Snyder because BvS bombed critically and was profitable but didn't meet Avengers targets and then taking this out on Geoff Johns and everyone else. Then doing this again and again to each subsequent "plan" they started on. Joker probably saved Matt Reeves. Making a shit load of money on films that were too far along saved Patty Jenkins and James Wan.
Zhao confirmed for Eternals 2/Celestials movie.
Good. I'm one of the few people that liked Eternals. It was no Shang-Chi, but it was interesting and something different for Marvel. Just make a better sequel and everyone will like it this time.
Glad they aren't course correcting. Celestials are cool. Give me more of that stuff in MCU.
Capeshit really has some problems with keeping powers consistent. She-hulk spoilers I guess
https://www.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/wtdhs7/literally/
The Rock is a Black Adam fan, they originally offered him either Shazam or Black Adam like a decade ago and he stuck with it through everything because he really wanted to do it.
The Rock is a Black Adam fan, they originally offered him either Shazam or Black Adam like a decade ago and he stuck with it through everything because he really wanted to do it.
Comics are nothing if not inconsistent. That’s the whole story of world war hulk, I think. Planet hulk was him getting a family. They get killed by the illuminati? He gets uncontrollably angry and so strong only one guy can match him. Sometimes there’s no upper limit.
In other issues he’s probably been knocked out from slipping on a banana peel.
I think its pretty consistent with Hulks powerset that :maf Hulk can stop an invading alien organic flying tank with one punch, while meditating anger suppressing nerd hulk can be taken by surprise and not hulk smash the car of someone he has a strong positive emotional connection to.
:idont
OT: of capeshit, they've dropped Moon Knight from the opening MARVEL title card for She Hulk ???
BTW the boulder would not burn up that way going out.
BTW the boulder would not burn up that way going out.
:nerds
BTW the boulder would not burn up that way going out.
I get the Wolverine reference.
Can one of you comic book nerds explain the giant statue?
OK.I get the Wolverine reference.
Can one of you comic book nerds explain the giant statue?
It’s an Eternals reference.
Yes, I watched the Eternals :goty
I get the Wolverine reference.
Can one of you comic book nerds explain the giant statue?
Weren't you still a toddler at that time?
Weren't you still a toddler at that time?
Weren't you still a toddler at that time?
I was 9 and from my perspective things were much simpler. :)
I will say that as objectively as I can think about things, it does feel like 9/11 changed a lot. The young'uns today don't remember a "before" but I do, a little bit but it's something.
The Rock has apparently been going around spoiling the mid-credits scene of Black Adam during the publicity tour. :lol
I'll be nice and not spoil it but it's pretty easy to find if you want to know, people had edited it all onto the Wikipedia page earlier for example.
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While I enjoy Benny Potter's work on Youtube, his book was mediocre. The book is plagued with grammar mistakes, missing punctuation, spelling errors and typos. If repetition of sentences or statements in the book were removed, it would be cut down by an easy 20 pages. Excessive fluff in order to length a piece of writing detracts from the strengths of the book.
The book follows an opinionated recounting of movie history, which often fails to account for facts in some cases. This ultimately weakens the book as it often obscures and glances over key points in favour of biased opinions. No part of a book recounting history should have the author stating their opinion is correct and then fail to present points to attest to that claim. Many movie franchises were omitted or glanced over in order to focus on Batman and Superman at the beginning of the book. Marvel is barely given half the book to argue points and some franchises were cut out all together.
The book reads like a Youtube video script tossed into a 180 page format. If Mr. Potter chooses to release another book, he should seriously consider hiring an editor to revise the final script.
While some information was new and insightful, this book suffers on many fronts. If you're interested in comic book movies, it offers an enjoyable 2 hour read, if you don't then this is not the the book for you.
In an interview with The Guardian, Moore said: “Hundreds of thousands of adults [are] lining up to see characters and situations that had been created to entertain the 12-year-old boys – and it was always boys – of 50 years ago. I didn’t really think that superheroes were adult fare.
All I hope is all that shit is kept separate from The Batman’s corner like Joker 2 with Gaga is.I think it is but I think they might be leaving the door open to writing Reeves' stuff back into the DCEU down the road, at one point they were going to have Reeves' stuff set as the past for Batfleck which was far enough back he could do whatever he wanted anyway:
according to sources, Joker filmmaker Todd Phillips’ work on the upcoming sequel, which goes into production later this year, will not fall under Gunn and Safran’s purview and instead will be overseen by De Luca and Abdy. Matt Reeves, who worked under Hamada, has a budding universe based on his The Batman movie. It is unclear under whose purview Reeves’ future projects would fall, but everything else moving forward would be under Gunn and Safran’s.
And according to sources, the initial overture to Safran and Gunn came from De Luca over the summer,So Gunn's reply tweet a month or so back to that random guy that implied he knew unannounced things about the DC slate and that people should have faith may have been a slipup. :lol
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The hiring is effective Nov. 1, and comes as De Luca and Abdy have been making creative decisions and overseeing postproduction on everything from The Flash to Aquaman and The Lost Kingdom since taking over their posts in early July.
Milotti is good; her Black Mirror episode was nuanced. She was hilarious in 30 Rock (infantilized blond) and Palm Springs, opposite Samberg.
All I hope is all that shit is kept separate from The Batman’s corner like Joker 2 with Gaga is.I think it is but I think they might be leaving the door open to writing Reeves' stuff back into the DCEU down the road, at one point they were going to have Reeves' stuff set as the past for Batfleck which was far enough back he could do whatever he wanted anyway:Quoteaccording to sources, Joker filmmaker Todd Phillips’ work on the upcoming sequel, which goes into production later this year, will not fall under Gunn and Safran’s purview and instead will be overseen by De Luca and Abdy. Matt Reeves, who worked under Hamada, has a budding universe based on his The Batman movie. It is unclear under whose purview Reeves’ future projects would fall, but everything else moving forward would be under Gunn and Safran’s.
Interestingly, that article somewhat suggests that some of the recent decisions may have been at least discussed with Gunn and Safran:QuoteAnd according to sources, the initial overture to Safran and Gunn came from De Luca over the summer,So Gunn's reply tweet a month or so back to that random guy that implied he knew unannounced things about the DC slate and that people should have faith may have been a slipup. :lol
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The hiring is effective Nov. 1, and comes as De Luca and Abdy have been making creative decisions and overseeing postproduction on everything from The Flash to Aquaman and The Lost Kingdom since taking over their posts in early July.
First look at Iron Hearts armor is pretty :crazyTo answer your question, no it doesn't.spoiler (click to show/hide)https://twitter.com/CultureCrave/status/1590071332066459648[close]
Maybe it looks less like a Transformers Power ranger in the actual movie?
Heading in to see Black Panther 2. Did I wait a sufficiently long time to avoid crowding out black excellence?
Edit: Was ok. Probably about 60 minutes too long. Why don't Disney hire some better editors?
Saw this yesterday. Shit was just super dour. Letitia was unconvincing and uninteresting (also a TERF BITCH). Either of the other two leading ladies would’ve been a better choice for BP. I didn’t hate it, but I honestly liked Eternals better and I wouldn’t say that I’m a fan of that movie either lmao.Yeah, when you're making your woke agenda capeshit film, you gotta keep that hereditary monarchy thing going on.
Capeshit movies shouldn’t be approaching three fucking hours unless they are actually y’know good and/or have something interesting to say (The Batman) or just have lots of plot lines to resolve (Endgame).
Why, is she gonna die too?
Why, is she gonna die too?
Wait, that’s real?Yes it's realspoiler (click to show/hide)when I heard it, I thought it was a joke about Fast and Furious. Dom had a secret son he named Brian. After the fictional character whose actor passed away. That actually happens here, too?[close]
Hollywood is something else.
The mid-credits scene makes it abundantly clear that Shuri being BP is is only in the short term. If they make another, it won't be her in the mask outside of maybe the first 5 minutes.
When the next capeshit due to hit cinemas?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-01-02/jeremy-renner-critical-table-condition-snow-ploughing-accident/101822542
Movie star Jeremy Renner, known for his role as Hawkeye in several Marvel blockbusters, has been seriously injured after an accident while ploughing snow, his representative says.
Three months after James Gunn and Peter Safran officially started running the newly created DC Studios within Warner Bros. Discovery, the co-chiefs have announced the first 10 film and TV titles within the rebooted DC Universe.
On Monday, Gunn and Safran met with press on the Warner Bros. studio lot to present what they said was the first part of Chapter 1 of the DCU, which they are calling “Gods and Monsters.”
Superman: Legacy - “It focuses on Superman balancing his Kryptonian heritage with his human upbringing,” Safran said. “He is the embodiment of truth, justice and the American way. He is kindness in a world that thinks of kindness as old-fashioned.”
The Authority - “It isn’t just a story of heroes and villains, and not every movie and TV show is going to be about good guy versus bad guy,” Gunn said. “There are people that are very questionable, like the Authority, who basically believe that you can’t fix the world in an easy manner, and they take things into their own hands.”
Added Safran, “They’re kind of like Jack Nicholson in ‘A Few Good Men.’ They know that you want them on the wall, or at least they believe that.”
The Brave and the Bold - The project is based on the run of Batman comics authored by Grant Morrison, who Gunn said was “exceptionally influential” on the DCU. This version of Robin is Damian Wayne; Gunn described him as “our favorite Robin,” “a little son of a bitch,” an “assassin” and a “murderer.”
Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow - “We see the difference between Superman, who was sent to Earth and raised by loving parents from the time he’s an infant, versus Supergirl, who was raised on a rock chip off of Krypton, and watched everyone around her die and be killed in terrible ways for the first 14 years of her life.”
Swamp Thing - “Swamp Thing” will “investigate the dark origins of Swamp Thing,” Safran said, through the prism of horror.
Creature Commandos - This animated series for HBO Max is the very first project greenlit by Safran and Gunn, who has written every episode.
The Creature Commando characters were first launched in 1980. The premise features Frankenstein’s monster teaming up with a werewolf, a vampire and a gorgon to fight Nazis in World War II. It doesn’t appear that Gunn’s version takes quite the same approach — Weasel, one of the characters from Gunn’s 2021 film “The Suicide Squad,” is one of the Commandos
Waller - With Gunn focused on “Superman: Legacy” for the foreseeable future, Season 2 of “Peacemaker” has been put on hold. Instead, “team ‘Peacemaker'” will appear alongside Davis as a “continuation” of that show, Gunn said — which (spoiler alert for Season 1 of “Peacemaker”)spoiler (click to show/hide)ended with Waller’s daughter Leota Adebayo (Danielle Brooks) outing Task Force X (a.k.a. the Suicide Squad) and Waller’s role running it to the world.[close]
Lanterns - Safran and Gunn seemed most excited for “Lanterns,” which Safran described as “a huge HBO-quality event” that is “very much in the vein of ‘True Detective.'”
The show will focus on two of the best known members of the Green Lantern corps.: Hal Jordan (the test pilot first played on screen by Ryan Reynolds in 2011’s “Green Lantern”) and John Stewart (an ex-marine and one of DC’s first Black superheroes), who investigate a mystery that Safran said “plays a really big role leading us into the main story that we’re telling across our film and television.”
Paradise Lost - This “‘Game of Thrones’-ish story,” Safran said, is set on the island of Themyscira before the birth of Diana (a.k.a. Wonder Woman).
“It’s really about the political intrigue behind a society of all women,” Safran said.
Booster Gold - Safran called Booster “a loser from the future who uses basic future technology to come back to today and pretend to be a superhero.”
In the 25th century, Mike is a disgraced former football star who uses a time machine on display in the Metropolis Space Museum.
Added Gunn, “Basically, ‘Booster Gold’ is imposter syndrome as a superhero.”
This version of Robin is Damian Wayne; Gunn described him as “our favorite Robin,”
Have I ever mentioned how much I hate the title "Gods and Monsters" for anything DC related?I feel like there's a 75% chance they decided on this because they met a bunch of times in a room that had a poster for it on the wall.
Have I ever mentioned how much I hate the title "Gods and Monsters" for anything DC related?
Their comparisons made are quite lofty, and in same cases seem odd (True Detective by way of Green Lantern? What???)This actually isn't that crazy, Green Lantern books in recent times have been really focused on the "space cop" aspect of it. I had my complaints about Far Sector but it massively leaned in that direction. But mainstream Hal Jordan stuff has also focused on his (and other members of the Corps) role as a "wild west" type "sheriff" in their sectors. Grant Morrison (who seems to be a big well that Gunn went to) focused his entire run on this idea. The proposed series sounds a lot like Far Sector mashed up with The Green Lantern with John Stewart added as the buddy second cop.
I have no faith that Hollywood will not botch The Authority though. :lol
Whats so funny about truth justice and the american way would make a pretty good superman film for non comic bookers who think superman is inherently boring, especially if they use the actual authority instead of expiesThey did it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_vs._The_Elite
Generally doing Green Lanterns as "Space Cops" is a good idea, I guess I just associate as the primary focus of True Detective not only with the attention-to-minute-detail cop procedural aspect, but also equally on the psychological tolls taken in the job.That latter stuff has been in the Green Lantern runs! Think about having to establish "law" across an entire sector of space with who knows how many races with their own practices, etc. Green Lantern: Earth One also got into some of the aspects about the choices you have to make and how they can influence whole vast areas of space and beyond. The Guardians are mostly gone in recent stories so the Lanterns no longer "just follow orders" but have to make these decisions on their own and it weighs on them. There's been a number of resignations from the Corps related to this in them too. I can see the appeal of the idea and True Detective is an obvious reference to reach for.
You're really selling me on the newer Lantern stuff (last thing I read was The Omega Men trade, which was eh okay), but I don't really trust modern DC and Marvel comics to write good stories.Grant Morrison's run has some dumb weird shit in it (it comes off as Morrison trying to deliberately write Morrison) but like the second issue or so has him doing an interrogation and talking about handling his case load while this certain case was pushed to the top of the stack. :lol
Also why the fuck did everything get "Dark" for a few years
Snyders love them some darkness shit I guess...
Dark Crisis is basically the "fallout" from that and is undoing the original Crisis, it's being used as the jumping off point to bring back stuff that was already on its way back but hadn't been greenlit like JSA which Doomsday Clock brought back but nobody did anything with until Dark Crisis being an EVENT allows for the killing of titles and starting new ones. The whole arc of Infinite Frontier and stuff was really just an extended story between METAL and Dark Crisis that was like "oh look these guys are back" and "look multiverse is back again" and so on, it was mostly all unused characters and multiverse versions so nothing would interfere with the ongoing stories in all the books.Completely forgot it was even happening until I saw the new issue this week but the Lazarus Planet crossover event thingy is doing the same exact thing, a whole bunch of characters just came back and there's a new Firestorm now and stuff. The LAZARUS in the title is related to Al Ghul's Lazarus Pits which is presumably why these characters are coming back but I don't know anything about the specifics involved.
Oh, and don't worry Tasty, one of the upcoming issues for that is titled "Lazarus Planet: Dark Fate" so they got it in there.:social2
Black Panther 2… yeah. Angela Bassett was great in it.
Not sure why I would pay to see any of these in the theater vs catching them on Disney+ for a few bucks three months later.
Also maybe Marvel should look at their MCU and cut back a bit on the quips every.fucking.movie. Because some don't need constant quips every 2 minutes.
Dark Crisis is basically the "fallout" from that and is undoing the original Crisis, it's being used as the jumping off point to bring back stuff that was already on its way back but hadn't been greenlit like JSA which Doomsday Clock brought back but nobody did anything with until Dark Crisis being an EVENT allows for the killing of titles and starting new ones. The whole arc of Infinite Frontier and stuff was really just an extended story between METAL and Dark Crisis that was like "oh look these guys are back" and "look multiverse is back again" and so on, it was mostly all unused characters and multiverse versions so nothing would interfere with the ongoing stories in all the books.Completely forgot it was even happening until I saw the new issue this week but the Lazarus Planet crossover event thingy is doing the same exact thing, a whole bunch of characters just came back and there's a new Firestorm now and stuff. The LAZARUS in the title is related to Al Ghul's Lazarus Pits which is presumably why these characters are coming back but I don't know anything about the specifics involved.
Oh, and don't worry Tasty, one of the upcoming issues for that is titled "Lazarus Planet: Dark Fate" so they got it in there.
Speaking of, The Flash show is ending. It’s season 9 or 10? Anyway, at a point CW had about seven DC shows airing. All ended or have been canceled. Inexplicably they’re starting up a Gotham Knights show on CW, somehow more broke ass than the game. Main character is Bruce’s son, Turner Hayes (nerds, help) and assorted kids of Batman villains. You know, Duela, daughter of Joker.
We need to return to normalcy. Being back The Cape and No Ordinary Family.
The Flash trailer has got me in the mood to read some ridiculous crossover shit. I kinda tapped out after a year of The New 52, so what's the hot shit since then? Kinda want to read Dark Metal or Death Metal or Dark Metal Knight Rising or whatever the fuck all that was.Full title is Dark Nights: METAL and the sequel is Dark Nights: DEATH METAL. First one is really great, one of the best DC crossover events, the sequel is a little try hard with an expanded scope, METAL really benefits from everyone running wild with a pretty simple core idea. They are pretty decently self-contained in terms of whether or not you need to know anything that's happened elsewhere as setup, you'll mostly just miss out on previous setup stuff coming together and the characters coming back from the dead type of stuff. The post Death Metal Infinite Frontier/Flashpoint Beyond/etc. stuff that led into Dark Crisis picks up on a number of threads from The Multiversity. I haven't read Dark Crisis yet so I have no idea if it's nuts or not.
Forever Evil isn't bad. Trinity War is a pretty dumb setup for the various Justice Leagues to fight and none of it matters because it ends with the start of Forever Evil.
I misread your mention of New 52 and didn't think about stuff during it, probably The Multiversity, Futures End and Darkseid War were my favorite events during it. Oh, and Earth 2 was great but that's not really an event. (Justice League 3000 is somewhat similar and went some fun places before randomly ending.) Rotworld is alright, Swamp Thing and Animal Man crossover. The Omega Men was pretty cool but more of just a miniseries.
The villains in these movies have been trash, worse than anything done to any of the heroes in any of them. It's pretty much aside from minor exceptions been downhill since Jeff Bridges was yelling about Tony Stark's box of scraps in a cave.That was maybe the most nerd infuriating part of that whole "was Thanos right?" horseshit wankery. Really, we need to have more contempt for "Marvel fans" and self-proclaimed nerds in general praising how they scraped out the entire thematic core of the Infinity Gauntlet (and Thanos personally) for objectively stupid Malthusianism and low level Star Trek tier time travel nonsense. One of the saving graces of Snyder getting fired was he wasn't able to use lame ass time travel in a story with reality shaping powers like he also planned.
Then all these dummies tried to talk us into their multiverse horseshit as the next great storytelling frontier and how much "fun" we're supposed to be having with a multiverse where everyone alive had a traumatic five year time separation and each new "adventure" is about escalating existential cosmic horrors none of the writers have solutions for. Something which everyone completely ignores until somebody steps slightly out of formula in a non-superficial way and our "fans" tut-tut them for making things "too bleak" and "losing the fun and heroics" as Gunn is currently getting.
And then there's the unrelenting inconsistent reality of these "shared universes" that exist only as the main characters (of the moment) move through them. And while I'm on it another thing is how... :ragespoiler (click to show/hide):expert[close]
Unironically, reflecting on the last 80 of these movies in the past decade, come away thinking Zod in MoS is the best realized villain. How he’s by design, in text and in universe, one dimensional. How that single track purpose born from a eugenics forward culture feeds into every action he makes. How when he fails that purpose, he’s basically going for suicide by cop while causing as much despair to everyone else. Makes me wonder what Darkseid could’ve been. What I understand, the direction was inline with Grant Morrison’s take. With Darkseid being this manifestation of evil, a force of nature, one track in his own way. It’s an interesting contrast with the other villains, who have relatively relatable motivations, to see someone that’s unambiguously and unashamedly evil. Oh, you’re saying I should shove myself into the locker? Sure thing.
Which is pretty much flipped in the movie portrayals.It's amusing because the MCU is based so much on Ultimate Marvel where people don't care about mutants being killed randomly in front of them and often cheer it on like Joanne does, the first big "event" is the Hulk laying waste to NYC killing thousands and guys like Captain America are basically Superman level strong. :lol
Snyder's self-proclaimed "deconstruction" was hardly new, as you mentioned Wildstorm maybe got there first to do it as standard as it quickly got to "holy shit superheroes would be nuts" levels but Ultimate Marvel popularly picked up many of those strands with bigger brand names. New 52 had some of this in mind but it was tied to part of them trying to power everyone back down more than explore the idea, there were some similar things after the original Crisis. There's been some other stuff that's dabbled in these areas, all the stuff that's been adapted to TV like Powers, The Boys, Invincible, etc. touches on these things. Astro City has some of it. Supreme Power was about little else. Alan Moore did a bunch of it in his indie stuff and obviously may claim the modern mainstream "first!" with Watchmen.
Snyder's self-proclaimed "deconstruction" was hardly new, as you mentioned Wildstorm maybe got there first to do it as standard as it quickly got to "holy shit superheroes would be nuts" levels but Ultimate Marvel popularly picked up many of those strands with bigger brand names. New 52 had some of this in mind but it was tied to part of them trying to power everyone back down more than explore the idea, there were some similar things after the original Crisis. There's been some other stuff that's dabbled in these areas, all the stuff that's been adapted to TV like Powers, The Boys, Invincible, etc. touches on these things. Astro City has some of it. Supreme Power was about little else. Alan Moore did a bunch of it in his indie stuff and obviously may claim the modern mainstream "first!" with Watchmen.
I think Snyders sensibilities are probably somewhat casual comics reader?
And by that, I mean for a long ass time your typical "entry point" TPB recommendations would 100% include Watchmen, Dark Knight Returns, and Kingdom Come, which absolutely do have that Snyderverse vibe - but they're mostly 'end point' after a bunch of continuity has passed.
It'd be like the MCU using Earth X, or any of the The End one shots as its template - it doesn't really make sense as a launchpad, its pretty much a post-mortem of after things went wrong far far in the future.
In terms of using bad guys, hollywood films in general are much more prone to go to execution of the antagonist as a finale, but comics have known thats a stupid fucking idea since Dick Tracey and its endless 'son of flattop who looks and acts identical to his dad' shenanigans to resurrect popular foils for the hero (and you see this a little in very early batman when they stupidly killed off the Joker and had to retcon that shit).
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