Author Topic: Gundam Musou: MAF Eats Crow (Read 6104 times)

MrAngryFace · « **on:** September 03, 2007, 12:06:07 AM »

Its pretty fun and challenging. Take it easy on me with the I Told U So's.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #1 on:** September 03, 2007, 01:18:30 AM »

TOLD YA SO MUTHA FUCKA!!!

Ichirou · « **Reply #2 on:** September 03, 2007, 01:45:13 AM »

Is it worth buying a PS3 for?

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #3 on:** September 03, 2007, 01:46:32 AM »

I completed one of the Official Mode Missions, those were kinda hard. the AI in this game can be cruel with its aim of range weapons.

Im doing the easy Original Mode Heero mission right now tho.

Ichiro: Got the 360 version, wanted the achievments.

drohne · « **Reply #4 on:** September 03, 2007, 01:46:57 AM »

are you saying this as a gundam fan or a musou fan? i like dynasty warriors, but i'm perfectly innocent of gundam -- the demo was like 'ok, i remember that guy from the bit of gundam wing i watched on tv ten years ago, but i don't know who any of these people drawn in entirely different styles are, and i have no idea what they're talking about.' and there's something kind of weird about cutting down hundreds of giant robots. maybe i'll rent it

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #5 on:** September 03, 2007, 01:51:32 AM »

I dunno, I think a musou fan could find enough in this to have fun with it 'if the mood struck him' but it DOES lack a lot of the more innovative features the Empires games have. In terms of game mechanics I would say the game is only really on par with Dynasty Warriors 3, which is forunately the number in the DW series where things actually started getting good.

I think most of the enjoyment will come from the fact that the gundams animate really well and the models are spot on. They did a great job with the story modes and the game is plenty challenging since the AI imo is better than that of the recent musou games. More specifically ranged attackers are far more accurate and active. Fights with key characters are also really challenging and emulate the anime battles nicely.

I have also noticed the scripted events leave even less room than most of the DW/SW maps for error. In that I mean you have to be spot on making some decisions to support certain areas.

I would definately say I am enjoying this game as a Gundam fan. I think part of it is also because I havent played either Empire game on my 360 for a while so im 'caught in the mood' to play a musou game. If anything tho this game is making me want to play SW2 and DW5 Empires. If only they made a Yue Ying Gundam lol.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #6 on:** September 03, 2007, 01:54:28 AM »

I don't think the game would be as awesome if you weren't into Gundam.

Ichirou, Gundam Musou is why I bought my PS3 back in February.

Ichirou · « **Reply #7 on:** September 03, 2007, 01:54:51 AM »

Quote from: MrAngryFace on September 03, 2007, 01:46:32 AM

I completed one of the Official Mode Missions, those were kinda hard. the AI in this game can be cruel with its aim of range weapons.

Im doing the easy Original Mode Heero mission right now tho.

Ichiro: Got the 360 version, wanted the achievments.

360 version is supposed to be inferior to the PS3 version, I thought (since it's a port). That's the word on GAF anyways. But I guess achievements are pretty important for 360 owners.

drohne · « **Reply #8 on:** September 03, 2007, 01:55:50 AM »

hm...maybe i'll just pick up one of the empires games on 360. i've actually never played any of those.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #9 on:** September 03, 2007, 01:55:57 AM »

Is the 360 version even coming out in Japan?

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #10 on:** September 03, 2007, 01:57:18 AM »

I doubt I could tell the difference between the two. In terms of geometry and effects this game won't win any awards, and the X360 lacks the jaggies inherent in PS3 games. However in my eyes the two were even, except the 360 offered me something a LITTLE more.

GAF can suck a lemon. I've given up taking their advice on games.

Dhrone: DW5 Empires is my favorite. SW2 Empires is neat, but DW5 Empires has so much lore behind it.

Ichirou · « **Reply #11 on:** September 03, 2007, 01:59:00 AM »

Quote from: distantmantra on September 03, 2007, 01:55:57 AM

Is the 360 version even coming out in Japan?

The 360 version is coming out in Japan as Gundam Musou International, with an English option.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #12 on:** September 03, 2007, 02:00:39 AM »

Offical Mode is hard. The last level for Amuro or whatever was fuk close even on normal. I didnt grind levels tho so that was probably it.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #13 on:** September 03, 2007, 02:05:56 AM »

Gundam Musou looked nice and clean, but it wasn't a looker or anything. I can't imagine the 360 version being any but identical.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #14 on:** September 03, 2007, 02:10:18 AM »

Im pretty sure it is, unless you wanna argue controller preferences, but ive got issues with the height of the anolog sticks on the ps3, and ive played so much musou on 360 it seems natural to ME, but maybe not everyone.

Ichirou · « **Reply #15 on:** September 03, 2007, 02:11:44 AM »

I don't have a PS3 or a 360 so I'm not biased either way, I'm just telling you guys the word on GAF, which may well be total BS. They've nitpicked nonexistent shit before, like the controls in Metal Slug Anthology.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #16 on:** September 03, 2007, 02:13:38 AM »

I think GAF has the mentality that a game is inferior simply BECAUSE its a ports. All for the system warz.

I mean almost all of the 'ports' for PS3 blow completely, knowing GAF agendas I wouldnt put it past them to hype PS3 Gundam Musou just cause its not a port on PS3.

Ichirou · « **Reply #17 on:** September 03, 2007, 02:14:11 AM »

I'm planning on getting a 360 before a PS3, so I already know which version I'm getting anyway.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #18 on:** September 03, 2007, 02:14:51 AM »

It doesnt matter to me, im just sayin I cant imagine any real differences.

Ichirou · « **Reply #19 on:** September 03, 2007, 02:16:45 AM »

Have you used the Turn A Gundam yet? Does the soundtrack have any of the theme music from the various series?

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #20 on:** September 03, 2007, 02:17:35 AM »

Im not enough of a gundam series expert to answer the music question, and I dont recall using the turn a gundam.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #21 on:** September 03, 2007, 02:18:33 AM »

Quote from: Ichirou on September 03, 2007, 02:16:45 AM

Have you used the Turn A Gundam yet? Does the soundtrack have any of the theme music from the various series?

The Turn A is cool, although the God Gundam is my favorite in Original Mode.

There are the songs from the UC shows (MSG, Zeta and ZZ), but I don't think they used any of the Turn A, G and Wing stuff.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #22 on:** September 03, 2007, 02:21:26 AM »

How many total gundams are available for use anyway? Curious.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #23 on:** September 03, 2007, 02:21:58 AM »

01. Gundam RX78-2
02. Gundam Mk-II
03. Gundam Z
04. Wing Gundam Zero
05. God Gundam
06. Turn-A Gundam
07. Char's Gelgoog
08. Char's Zaku II
09. Hyaku Shiki
10. The O
11. Qubeley
12. Gundam ZZ
13. Master Gundam
14. Gundam Epyon
15. Gundam Mk-II (Black)
16. Qubeley Mk-II (Black)
17. Qubeley Mk-II (Red)
18. Musha Gundam

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #24 on:** September 03, 2007, 02:23:39 AM »

pretty healthy list. Going by the list of parts and skills I would think there's quite a bit of hack'n slashin lol.

They shoulda had the dumbass golden gundam from Gundam Seed Destiny lol.

Ichirou · « **Reply #25 on:** September 03, 2007, 02:31:30 AM »

Quote from: MrAngryFace on September 03, 2007, 02:23:39 AM

pretty healthy list. Going by the list of parts and skills I would think there's quite a bit of hack'n slashin lol.

They shoulda had the dumbass golden gundam from Gundam Seed Destiny lol.

I bet it woulda sold more copies in Japan if they'd included some Seed shit.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #26 on:** September 03, 2007, 02:41:09 AM »

Quote from: Ichirou on September 03, 2007, 02:31:30 AM

Quote from: MrAngryFace on September 03, 2007, 02:23:39 AM
pretty healthy list. Going by the list of parts and skills I would think there's quite a bit of hack'n slashin lol.

They shoulda had the dumbass golden gundam from Gundam Seed Destiny lol.

I bet it woulda sold more copies in Japan if they'd included some Seed shit.

I bet they're saving all that for the sequel. They'll probably throw in 00 mechs, too.

Ichirou · « **Reply #27 on:** September 03, 2007, 02:45:18 AM »

Did you know the only reason they included Wing Zero is 'cuz they heard Americans like it? Except they made a mistake and included Wing Zero instead of Wing Zero Custom which is the one Americans actually like.

And they included the Turn A to coincide with the release of the remastered DVDs.

bork · « **Reply #28 on:** September 03, 2007, 03:08:46 AM »

I still have not been able to get into the game. Musou Orochi came out a month after this did, and I enjoyed that so much more. I'm getting Musou Orochi again on 360 next week, and I think I might sell off Gundam Musou at that point.

abrader · « **Reply #29 on:** September 03, 2007, 09:27:38 AM »

I am liking the game alot but havent polayed it as much as Warhawk/LAIR.

I chose the PS3 version of this as it displays sharper with more PS3 FX. - it doesnt seem to have any "accomplishments" on the PS3 tho so if XBL achievments are yer thing get the X360 edition for sure.

Ichirou · « **Reply #30 on:** September 03, 2007, 09:45:08 AM »

Quote from: abrader on September 03, 2007, 09:27:38 AM

I am liking the game alot but havent polayed it as much as Warhawk/LAIR.

I chose the PS3 version of this as it displays sharper with more PS3 FX. - it doesnt seem to have any "accomplishments" on the PS3 tho so if XBL achievments are yer thing get the X360 edition for sure.

Displays sharper? More FX? Could you be more specific as to the graphical differences?

abrader · « **Reply #31 on:** September 03, 2007, 10:17:50 AM »

Quote from: Ichirou on September 03, 2007, 09:45:08 AM

Quote from: abrader on September 03, 2007, 09:27:38 AM
I am liking the game alot but havent polayed it as much as Warhawk/LAIR.

I chose the PS3 version of this as it displays sharper with more PS3 FX. - it doesnt seem to have any "accomplishments" on the PS3 tho so if XBL achievments are yer thing get the X360 edition for sure.

Displays sharper? More FX? Could you be more specific as to the graphical differences?

I suggest you try the free downloadable demo on both systems.

Thats how I made this obervation.

Ichirou · « **Reply #32 on:** September 03, 2007, 10:31:33 AM »

Since I have neither a PS3 nor an XBox 360, that could prove difficult.

abrader · « **Reply #33 on:** September 03, 2007, 10:34:27 AM »

Quote from: Ichirou on September 03, 2007, 10:31:33 AM

Since I have neither a PS3 nor an XBox 360, that could prove difficult.

ahh ok let me take a stab;

- both games run in 720p but the PS3 game looks sharper and as if its a higher rez.
- The lighting looks better in the PS3 game
- the PS3 has more particle effects in the air to represent dust, battle debris etc..
- the textures for things like the ground and much more detailed on the PS3 and this means alot considering that you see alot of terrain on the screen at all times....

bork · « **Reply #34 on:** September 03, 2007, 10:59:34 AM »

Quote from: abrader on September 03, 2007, 10:34:27 AM

Quote from: Ichirou on September 03, 2007, 10:31:33 AM
Since I have neither a PS3 nor an XBox 360, that could prove difficult.

ahh ok let me take a stab;

- both games run in 720p but the PS3 game looks sharper and as if its a higher rez.
- The lighting looks better in the PS3 game
- the PS3 has more particle effects in the air to represent dust, battle debris etc..
- the textures for things like the ground and much more detailed on the PS3 and this means alot considering that you see alot of terrain on the screen at all times....

-360 gets MUSOU OROCHI OMG AWESOME next week
-Dynasty Warriors 6 is going to kick the ever-lovin' shit out of this game

Sorry for the hatorade.

But yeah, it seems to be everyone's opinion that the PS3 version looks better than the 360 version, although that was based on the demos. I don't know if Koei improved the visuals for the release.

abrader · « **Reply #35 on:** September 03, 2007, 11:17:52 AM »

I have the final PS3 game, not the X360 edition.

I love it either which way..

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #36 on:** September 03, 2007, 12:55:16 PM »

Quote

- both games run in 720p but the PS3 game looks sharper and as if its a higher rez.

hahaha, that's the just the ps3's lack of aa kicking in AGAIN

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #37 on:** September 03, 2007, 02:14:50 PM »

lack of AA always has that 'sharp' digital look, but thats not exactly a product feature, but the lack of one

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #38 on:** September 03, 2007, 02:27:16 PM »

It looks the same on both systems to me. I don't know how anyone could tell any differences unless they've got it running at the same tmie on equally calibrated displays. Unlike reviews of most other ports, I've yet to see a review mention any differences between the two. Also, the 360 can upscale it to 1080p which looks a little better than native 1080p.

hyp · « **Reply #39 on:** September 04, 2007, 01:06:13 PM »

the dynasty warrior franchise really needs to get online play. split screen co-op isn't cutting it for me anymore. gah

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #40 on:** September 04, 2007, 03:05:36 PM »

I love DW and cant tolerate split screen co-op lol

demi · « **Reply #41 on:** September 04, 2007, 03:06:23 PM »

I thought the demo was nice, and I was really interested in getting it, but the achievements are really grindy and I don't really want to dedicate to mashing X.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #42 on:** September 04, 2007, 03:07:00 PM »

Does the upcoming Dynasty Warriors offer online co-op?

bluemax · « **Reply #43 on:** September 04, 2007, 03:27:40 PM »

Quote from: drohne on September 03, 2007, 01:46:57 AM

are you saying this as a gundam fan or a musou fan? i like dynasty warriors, but i'm perfectly innocent of gundam -- the demo was like 'ok, i remember that guy from the bit of gundam wing i watched on tv ten years ago, but i don't know who any of these people drawn in entirely different styles are, and i have no idea what they're talking about.' and there's something kind of weird about cutting down hundreds of giant robots. maybe i'll rent it

I'm in the exact same boat more or less. The only dude I recognize was Heero because that particular Gundam show was on Cartoon Network for a long time and my younger brother loved it. Everything else was like "eh, well it plays like that one Dynasty Warrior game I played before but I can't see myself playing this more than an hour at a time and for more than 10 hours tops."

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #44 on:** September 04, 2007, 03:41:26 PM »

Quote from: bluemax on September 04, 2007, 03:27:40 PM

Quote from: drohne on September 03, 2007, 01:46:57 AM
are you saying this as a gundam fan or a musou fan? i like dynasty warriors, but i'm perfectly innocent of gundam -- the demo was like 'ok, i remember that guy from the bit of gundam wing i watched on tv ten years ago, but i don't know who any of these people drawn in entirely different styles are, and i have no idea what they're talking about.' and there's something kind of weird about cutting down hundreds of giant robots. maybe i'll rent it

I'm in the exact same boat more or less. The only dude I recognize was Heero because that particular Gundam show was on Cartoon Network for a long time and my younger brother loved it. Everything else was like "eh, well it plays like that one Dynasty Warrior game I played before but I can't see myself playing this more than an hour at a time and for more than 10 hours tops."

A love for all things Gundam really helps with the overall enjoyment of Gundam Musou. If you're not a Gundam fan, it might be worth it after a price drop.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #45 on:** September 04, 2007, 03:45:06 PM »

The games pretty challenging, but almost cheap at times. I've never seen ranged attackers so accurate in a musou game. Dealing with them while you fight a tough boss fight is hard. Or dealing with them while you try and run to event points...ARgh bazooka to the face

hyp · « **Reply #46 on:** September 04, 2007, 07:49:22 PM »

Quote from: lyte edge on September 03, 2007, 10:59:34 AM

-360 gets MUSOU OROCHI OMG AWESOME next week
-Dynasty Warriors 6 is going to kick the ever-lovin' shit out of this game

*CHEER*

dude, i did not know this was coming out for the 360! i thought it was PS2 only.

abrader · « **Reply #47 on:** September 04, 2007, 08:34:42 PM »

yeah may get Mosu Orchi - I also dont want to get over run with these games..

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #48 on:** September 04, 2007, 09:04:47 PM »

Nah, the big K whores out to ps2 and 360 equally these days. Pretty much a given if its on PS2 you'll see it on 360 lol. Fine with me, I like me some hi def DW/SW

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #49 on:** September 04, 2007, 09:08:55 PM »

Oh man I almost flung my controller at Gundam Musou when I lost at the end of a 20 minute battle. I had to count to 10 n shit

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #50 on:** September 04, 2007, 09:09:35 PM »

Did anyone else notice the gay subtext of "MAF eats Crow"? One of MAF's buddies go by the handle Drinky Crow, you know.

bork · « **Reply #51 on:** September 04, 2007, 09:30:20 PM »

Quote from: hyp on September 04, 2007, 07:49:22 PM

*CHEER*

dude, i did not know this was coming out for the 360! i thought it was PS2 only.

I heard the "cheer" cry from the warriors in the DW games when I read that.

I need help.

Quote from: abrader on September 04, 2007, 08:34:42 PM

yeah may get Mosu Orchi - I also dont want to get over run with these games..

The thing about Musou Orochi is that it's the first game to change up the game play and story formula a bit, since it's a team-based "fantasy" game. You get to control three characters at once and can switch them out on the fly. There are new stages and older stages from both the DW and SW games to play. There's new enemies as well. I hear there's a glitch with the horses that causes you to own everything with some of them, but I never did this...I don't really like horse riding in these games. It's just awesome having EVERY character from DW and SW playable.

For me, this game completely kicked the shit out of Gundam Musou, which obviously looks much, much better, but felt like more of the same old thing. Musou was fun, fun, fun! The 2P split screen play was limited, however, and I hope the Xbox 360 port addresses its faults, although at this point I have no one to play with anyway. :'(

Quote from: MrAngryFace on September 04, 2007, 09:04:47 PM

Nah, the big K whores out to ps2 and 360 equally these days. Pretty much a given if its on PS2 you'll see it on 360 lol. Fine with me, I like me some hi def DW/SW

They still skip the XL games. I highly doubt that we'll see Samurai Warriors 2 XL on 360. I didn't find it so bad going back to the PS2 SW2 from the 360 one, actually...the PS3 scales these games nicely. All the nice effects are gone though, and those textures....it will definitely be nice upgrading to Musou Orochi 360 from the PS2 version, but part of me wants to keep the PS2 version in case an XL version is released.

But then again, I was able to do a straight trade of the 360 SW2 for the PS2 version, so I don't see why I wouldn't be able to do the same if that happens...

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #52 on:** September 04, 2007, 09:31:21 PM »

Im not HUGE on the XL releases anyway, most of the upgrades in those installments seem kinda passive and dont make me feel like the money was well spent.

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