Author Topic: Time Magazine Says Halo 3 is the thinking man's shooter. (Read 5004 times)

bluemax · « **on:** September 03, 2007, 08:11:02 PM »

Because it has ships with names like Pillar of Autumn which is "an evocative phrase" with a "lyrical quality".

Also the story is "difficult to explain" while being "the stuff of pulpy Space Opera's!".

Ugh.

Mupepe · « **Reply #1 on:** September 03, 2007, 08:14:04 PM »

ahahahahahaha

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #2 on:** September 03, 2007, 08:15:39 PM »

Ichirou · « **Reply #3 on:** September 03, 2007, 08:21:19 PM »

Time Magazine says lots of things.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #4 on:** September 03, 2007, 08:27:40 PM »

"the thinking man's X" is one of my favorite game writing cliches
it deserves a lot more credit than "a mixed bag of X and Y" or "fans of X will find lots to enjoy"

also now is as good a time as any to remind everyone about how Halo stole its ship names and universe from Banks' Culture novels. Well, Marathon did first.

Fragamemnon · « **Reply #5 on:** September 03, 2007, 08:57:03 PM »

For what it is worth, Pillar of Autumn is a cool name for a ship.

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also now is as good a time as any to remind everyone about how Halo stole its ship names and universe from Banks' Culture novels. Well, Marathon did first.

You can go pick up one of Glen Cook's Black Company books (though they are not that good, really) to see where Bungie stole their ideas for the Myth games. The similarities are UNCANNY.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #6 on:** September 03, 2007, 09:08:53 PM »

God Hand is the thinking mans beat em up

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #7 on:** September 03, 2007, 09:09:43 PM »

The halo books arent bad...save The Flood, that one is bad.

Im pretty jazzed for Halo 3. Ive heard and read nothing but good things.

bluemax · « **Reply #8 on:** September 03, 2007, 09:10:50 PM »

Quote from: MrAngryFace on September 03, 2007, 09:09:43 PM

The halo books arent bad...save The Flood, that one is bad.

Im pretty jazzed for Halo 3. Ive heard and read nothing but good things.

I plan on playing Halo 3, I just found the article ridiculous. Especially when they try and say the story is complex and difficult and then they explain it in like 2 sentences. Its like Time magazine let GhaleonEB write an article on Halo.

Mupepe · « **Reply #9 on:** September 03, 2007, 09:14:09 PM »

eh, i find the story to Halo more compelling, interesting and thought out than 97 percent of other FPS games. that's not really saying much though.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #10 on:** September 03, 2007, 09:18:32 PM »

No it isnt. Halo does have a good story though

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #11 on:** September 03, 2007, 09:39:17 PM »

Quote from: Fragamemnon on September 03, 2007, 08:57:03 PM

For what it is worth, Pillar of Autumn is a cool name for a ship.

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also now is as good a time as any to remind everyone about how Halo stole its ship names and universe from Banks' Culture novels. Well, Marathon did first.

You can go pick up one of Glen Cook's Black Company books (though they are not that good, really) to see where Bungie stole their ideas for the Myth games. The similarities are UNCANNY.

I don't really want to dwell on it too much but there's this hilarious article showing how the timestamp layout for ship-to-ship messages in the Halo universe EXACTLY matches that used by Banks in Excession. lolol.

Shuri · « **Reply #12 on:** September 03, 2007, 09:40:49 PM »

Link plz.

bluemax · « **Reply #13 on:** September 03, 2007, 09:44:12 PM »

Quote from: Shuri on September 03, 2007, 09:40:49 PM

Link plz.

I don't have a link. One of my roommates subscribes to Time and I saw Halo 3 on the cover so I read the article. Maybe I'll scan it.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #14 on:** September 03, 2007, 09:46:08 PM »

what the hell does pillar of autumn mean?

oh and whoever writes the gaming news for time (ngai croal?) really sucks. he just regurgitates what he heard on another site and makes it sound more pretentious.

bluemax · « **Reply #15 on:** September 03, 2007, 09:49:02 PM »

The article is by some guy named Lev Grossman.

Edit: I take it back Shuri I found a link:

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1657825,00.html

Ichirou · « **Reply #16 on:** September 03, 2007, 09:56:49 PM »

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The action isn't nonstop; instead it includes dramatic beats and even moments of melancholy solitude, with Romantic weather effects and sublime vistas and soaring Gregorian chants. The game has a moody, Wagnerian quality--the Master Chief is dwarfed by towering alien architecture that recalls Piranesi. Halo takes itself seriously as, if not art, certainly a spectacle. But art seems more apt.

This guy's been cribbing from Andrew Vestal.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #17 on:** September 03, 2007, 10:05:52 PM »

you can see him masturbating on his computer screen.

Ichirou · « **Reply #18 on:** September 03, 2007, 10:10:07 PM »

HALO 3 IS ART

Mupepe · « **Reply #19 on:** September 03, 2007, 10:24:50 PM »

"romantic weather effects"

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #20 on:** September 03, 2007, 10:28:13 PM »

I do think of halo, as more of a thinking mans shooter than say a twitch shooter but the reasons stated are absurd.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #21 on:** September 03, 2007, 10:35:43 PM »

SNES Mario Kart Battle Course 3 is the thinking man's battle course.

Ichirou · « **Reply #22 on:** September 03, 2007, 11:11:05 PM »

Evilbore is the thinking man's GAF.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #23 on:** September 03, 2007, 11:33:27 PM »

I would say Ikaruga or Gradius V are more the thinking mans shooter

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #24 on:** September 03, 2007, 11:35:07 PM »

Time magazine is the thinking man's Newsweek

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #25 on:** September 03, 2007, 11:49:24 PM »

Ichirou is the thinking man's Thetrin.

Ichirou · « **Reply #26 on:** September 03, 2007, 11:53:28 PM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on September 03, 2007, 11:49:24 PM

Ichirou is the thinking man's Thetrin.

...

:'(

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #27 on:** September 04, 2007, 12:04:19 AM »

Jason Bourne is the thinking man's James Bond

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #28 on:** September 04, 2007, 12:05:16 AM »

chinese are the thinking man's mexicans

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #29 on:** September 04, 2007, 12:08:13 AM »

ZSNES is the thinking man's Virtual Console

The Sceneman · « **Reply #30 on:** September 04, 2007, 12:08:39 AM »

Women are the thinking mans girls

Ichirou · « **Reply #31 on:** September 04, 2007, 12:11:04 AM »

XBox 360 is the thinking man's PS3.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #32 on:** September 04, 2007, 12:14:52 AM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on September 04, 2007, 12:05:16 AM

chinese are the thinking man's mexicans

Ain't Dat A Bit Racialist? I thought that Doug Erickson is the thinking man's Andrew Vestal.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #33 on:** September 04, 2007, 12:15:17 AM »

buttsecks is the thinking mans intercourse

drohne · « **Reply #34 on:** September 04, 2007, 12:58:59 AM »

i actually think halo's a pretty smart game as games go, but it's hard to call it the thinking man's anything when it's so demonstrably the idiot's game of choice. it's unlucky in its fanbase. whereas nintendo games have precisely the idiotic fans they deserve.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #35 on:** September 04, 2007, 01:00:14 AM »

Quote from: groo

Post reply is the thinking man's new topic.

we may have a winner

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #36 on:** September 04, 2007, 02:42:26 AM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on September 04, 2007, 12:05:16 AM

chinese are the thinking man's mexicans

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #37 on:** September 04, 2007, 03:53:46 AM »

http://www.oldmanmurray.com/longreviews/47.html

Rune is not the thinking man's action adventure, whatever in the hellish, baby-eating Islamic high holy days of Ramadan that is. But that's not Rune's fault - we'll get to those in a minute. It's a problem with PC games and game players in general. What is with this "thinking man" crap? People willl put "thinking man" in front of fucking anything as if those words magically makes it better. All it means is that the fun's been replaced with a spreadsheet. Every goddamn boring thing I do all day is the thinking man's something or other. From the moment I brew my first cup of the thinking man's coffee, tea, to the moment I try desperately to fall asleep while thinking about how I hope to God they don't repossess my car tonight, all I do all fucking day is think. And now my head's tired. Dr. Derek Smart's Battleship 3000 is the thinking man's Galaxian. Look where that got us.

I don't know why people believe that thinking as recreation is some surefire sign of intelligence. You know who's smart? Dr. Stephen Hawking. But do you think he wants to spend his free time playing the "thinking man's" anything? He thinks more than I do. I can imagine how exhausted his brain is - only I'm not going to because it'd take too much mental effort. Also, he's crippled. He wants to run and jump and snowboard while simultaneously not thinking at all. I'm just like that. I want games targeted at the action man's Stephen Hawking. When will somebody make the action man's chess? On second thought, that sounds too complicated. I want to play the action man's Robotron - a game like Robotron but with much less thinking.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #38 on:** September 04, 2007, 04:20:17 AM »

Wow, I have to read that dude's website. He fucking rocks.

etiolate · « **Reply #39 on:** September 04, 2007, 08:31:15 AM »

We replace clever puzzles with bad stories and flashy cinematics and call it advancement.

tiesto · « **Reply #40 on:** September 04, 2007, 08:38:13 AM »

I had to roll my eyes at that whole article. And I wouldn't quite call Halo a thinking man's shooter when you have games like the Half Life series or System/Bio Shock etc.

bud · « **Reply #41 on:** September 04, 2007, 09:17:58 AM »

time magazine is awesome. it's perfect for reading while taking a shit.

Himu · « **Reply #42 on:** September 04, 2007, 02:19:10 PM »

hyp · « **Reply #43 on:** September 04, 2007, 02:21:24 PM »

Quote from: tiesto on September 04, 2007, 08:38:13 AM

I had to roll my eyes at that whole article. And I wouldn't quite call Halo a thinking man's shooter when you have games like the Half Life series or System/Bio Shock etc.

the truth has been told.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #44 on:** September 04, 2007, 02:22:48 PM »

Corky Thatcher is the thinking man's distinguished mentally-challenged fellow

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #45 on:** September 04, 2007, 04:38:15 PM »

i'd say "xenosaga is the thinking man's rpg" but there's enough deluded fans of that atrocious series to suck the sarcasm right out of it

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #46 on:** September 04, 2007, 11:59:16 PM »

Drinky is the thinking man's asshole.

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