Mike Huckabee Is Now The Front Runner In Iowa

[Gay Boy]

What the fuck is going on? 

Mike Huckabee - 28%
Mitt Romney - 25%
Rudy Giuliani - 12%
Fred Thompson - 11%

[Rman]

Ahh....

The primary system.

[drozmight]

Beads?!

[Human Snorenado]

Oh you wacky Christians.

I still say there should just be a national primary day.  Fuck this state by state bullshit.

[Bloodwake]

Oh you wacky Christians.

I still say there should just be a national primary day.  Fuck this state by state bullshit.

Yeah, fuck this noise.

Kentucky's isn't until MAY.

[Gay Boy]

Tradition rules american politics. Iowa and New Hampshire will hand pick our nominees until a national primary system is forced at them

[Human Snorenado]

Tradition rules american politics. Iowa and New Hampshire will hand pick our nominees until a national primary system is forced at them

Tradition is about the dumbest fucking reason to keep doing something ever.

"Hey guys, what do you say we not pound nails into our dicks this Halloween?"

"Dude, we do that EVERY year!  It's a tradition!"

"lol you're rite!"

[Bloodwake]

Tradition rules american politics. Iowa and New Hampshire will hand pick our nominees until a national primary system is forced at them

Tradition is about the dumbest fucking reason to keep doing something ever.

"Hey guys, what do you say we not pound nails into our dicks this Halloween?"

"Dude, we do that EVERY year!  It's a tradition!"

"lol you're rite!"

Tradition can go suck my cock.

Now that would be a good tradition.

[bagofeyes]

Where does the name Huckabee originate from? Never heard of anybody by that name in Australia

[Human Snorenado]

Where does the name Huckabee originate from? Never heard of anybody by that name in Australia

Fuckabee's lol

[bagofeyes]

lol

[Van Cruncheon]

that doesn't look like ron paul to me!

[Phoenix Dark]

I watched the debate tonight and he walked away with it - I was shocked. I figured Romney would hold off Rudy, thus setting up an interesting debate. Instead Romney wabbled like I've never seen anyone wabble before, Rudy repeated the same shit, and McCain seemed to flail from enlightened statesman (ie on torture) to madman (anything related to Iraq).

 

[Flannel Boy]

Canadian election campaigns last like five weeks. And you fucks only have two parties.

[FlameOfCallandor]

CBS Poll December 2003
Howard Dean 23%
Wesley Clark 10%
Joe Lieberman 6%
Al Sharpton 6%
Richard Gephardt 5%
John Kerry 4%
 

[CajoleJuice]

He still lost.

[Phoenix Dark]

He still lost.

But the point is he won the nomination. I will admit FoC, Paul held his own tonight. I thought McCain clocked him with the WWII/isolationist comment, but overall he did a good job making sense, which can't be said of half the people on the stage

[CajoleJuice]

Huckabee still won, easily. The Christian base had to be fucking eating it up tonight.

[FlameOfCallandor]

He still lost.

But the point is he won the nomination. I will admit FoC, Paul held his own tonight. I thought McCain clocked him with the WWII/isolationist comment, but overall he did a good job making sense, which can't be said of half the people on the stage

Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor an isolationist because he doesn't do donuts in your lawn and throw bricks in your windows.

Ron Paul fucking killed Mccain on the military question about Iraq. He said "Why do I get the most military donations our of any candidate here?"

[Mandark]

I figured that Huckabee was worrying certain parts of the GOP when I read this column.  When Robert Novak's penning hit pieces, you know you've arrived.

The rise of evangelical Christians as the force that blasted the GOP out of minority status during the past generation always contained an inherent danger: What if these new Republican acolytes supported not merely a conventional conservative but one of their own?

That's a pretty open admission of disdain for a very large chunk of the party's constituency.  He may as well just call them useful idiots and be done with it.

[Flannel Boy]

I figured that Huckabee was worrying certain parts of the GOP when I read this column.  When Robert Novak's penning hit pieces, you know you've arrived.

The rise of evangelical Christians as the force that blasted the GOP out of minority status during the past generation always contained an inherent danger: What if these new Republican acolytes supported not merely a conventional conservative but one of their own?

That's a pretty open admission of disdain for a very large chunk of the party's constituency.  He may as well just call them useful idiots and be done with it.

Everyone that's not an evangelical knows that country club republicans think of evangelicals as nothing but useful idiots. To me, they're just idiots.

[Phoenix Dark]

I know more than a few fundamentalists and I always ask the same question: every four years the republican nominee brings up the only issues you care about - abortion and gay marriage - but once the election is over those subjects are quickly forgotten. Isn't obvious you're being used?
Dobson and his ilk seems to finally realize this, but there's still a large group of fundamentalists who support Guliani despite his blatant disregard for the positions they care about.

[FlameOfCallandor]

Apparently Jesus tortured people. Just ask Huckabee.

[Flannel Boy]

Apparently Jesus tortured people. Just ask Huckabee.

What, you never had to be subjected to Catholic mass?

[Mandark]

Though shouldn't Bush count as "one of them"?  What really scares Novak is that Huckabee might have read some of the non-approved parts of the Bible and try to do some good works at the expense of the GOP's corporate constituency.

Bush has been reliably good to the captains of industry.



FoC: A fairer comparison would be military donations to anti-war GOP candidates vs. military donations to pro-war GOP candidates.  I don't think Paul's outraised the rest of the field combined.

As fun as it would be to say "Even the troops think we should be getting out!  Pwned!" I really don't think that's the case.


PD: They've gotten some traction on stem cells, the Mexico City rule, abstinence-only sex ed funding, Israel policy, and judicial nominations.  Their influence isn't as great as a lot of people were saying in the aftermath of 2004, but they're not just a bunch of easily-exploited rubes, either.

[FlameOfCallandor]

Apparently Jesus tortured people. Just ask Huckabee.

What, you never had to be subjected to Catholic mass?

Huckabee isn't catholic. I took communion at catholic mass once, does that mean I am going to hell?

[Flannel Boy]

Apparently Jesus tortured people. Just ask Huckabee.

What, you never had to be subjected to Catholic mass?

Huckabee isn't catholic. I took communion at catholic mass once, does that mean I am going to hell?

You missed my joke. 

[Phoenix Dark]

PD: They've gotten some traction on stem cells, the Mexico City rule, abstinence-only sex ed funding, Israel policy, and judicial nominations.  Their influence isn't as great as a lot of people were saying in the aftermath of 2004, but they're not just a bunch of easily-exploited rubes, either.

A lot of those achievements aren't very substantial, and are more like scarce left overs compared to the full plate they demand - Bush throws them a bone everynow and then, but that's it. In 2000 they expected to literally have a foot in the White House, and while it seemed like that was the case for awhile...now they're back to being semi irrelevent.

[FlameOfCallandor]

PD, I want you to respond to this "Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor an isolationist because he doesn't do donuts in your lawn and throw bricks in your windows."

[Mandark]

By almost any measure, Ron Paul is an isolationist.

[Phoenix Dark]

PD, I want you to respond to this "Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor an isolationist because he doesn't do donuts in your lawn and throw bricks in your windows."

Are you demanding that I answer a question? You're not states rights, you can't tell me what to do 

In terms of foreign policy he is an isolationist. He doesn't seem to understand that we can't just "stay to ourselves" and ignore world events.

[Van Cruncheon]

how about "calling ron paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor an isolationist because he keeps a stockpile of guns in his basement and spends an inordinate amount of time peering narrowly through the blinds at your house"

[TVC15]

Huckabee is the fucking devil.  I'd vote for Ron Paul out of principle if Huckabee were the opponent.  If a religious cuntjob wins this election, abandon country!  America is dead!  It can't take anotehr 8 years of this shit.

[Phoenix Dark]

Huckabee is actually sincere about his faith, and serious - unlike Bush. I'd imagine the inevitable democratic congress would keep him in check with regard to that if he becomes president.

I can think of one political issues that I form my opinion on based on religion; when it comes to effecting people's lives, I don't agree with dictating law on the basis of scripture.

[Human Snorenado]

CBS Poll December 2003
Howard Dean 23%
Wesley Clark 10%
Joe Lieberman 6%
Al Sharpton 6%
Richard Gephardt 5%
John Kerry 4%
 

Also, we have a thread for Ron Paul stuff, FoC.

[FlameOfCallandor]

CBS Poll December 2003
Howard Dean 23%
Wesley Clark 10%
Joe Lieberman 6%
Al Sharpton 6%
Richard Gephardt 5%
John Kerry 4%
 

Thats funny, my quote didnt mention ron paul anywhere. In fact I wasnt even the first to mention ron paul.
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Also, we have a thread for Ron Paul stuff, FoC.

[Human Snorenado]

Huckabee is the fucking devil.  I'd vote for Ron Paul out of principle if Huckabee were the opponent.  If a religious cuntjob wins this election, abandon country!  America is dead!  It can't take anotehr 8 years of this shit.

Your ilk will have to walk around with stylish pink "G's" stitched onto all of your clothes, sir.

[FlameOfCallandor]

Thats funny, my quote didnt mention ron paul anywhere. In fact I wasnt even the first to mention ron paul.

[FlameOfCallandor]

how about "calling ron paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor an isolationist because he keeps a stockpile of guns in his basement and spends an inordinate amount of time peering narrowly through the blinds at your house"

So he does what he wants in his own home. And it doesnt hurt anyone else!!!    Think of that.

[Human Snorenado]

Thats funny, my quote didnt mention ron paul anywhere. In fact I wasnt even the first to mention ron paul.

[Mandark]

Huckabee is actually sincere about his faith, and serious - unlike Bush. I'd imagine the inevitable democratic congress would keep him in check with regard to that if he becomes president.

I can think of one political issues that I form my opinion on based on religion; when it comes to effecting people's lives, I don't agree with dictating law on the basis of scripture.

First, you better have some evidence if you're going to presume that Bush's faith is more false than, say, yours.

Second, you mean "affecting people's lives".

"Effecting" a life would mean giving birth.

[CajoleJuice]

[FlameOfCallandor]

Huckabee is the fucking devil.  I'd vote for Ron Paul out of principle if Huckabee were the opponent.  If a religious cuntjob wins this election, abandon country!  America is dead!  It can't take anotehr 8 years of this shit.

Ron Paul is your only choice. Submit to religion or socialism. Choose your poison.

[Phoenix Dark]

Considering we are currently talking about the republican debate, of which Paul was apart of...it's perfectly valid to discuss him here in the context of the discussion

[TVC15]

Huckabee is the fucking devil.  I'd vote for Ron Paul out of principle if Huckabee were the opponent.  If a religious cuntjob wins this election, abandon country!  America is dead!  It can't take anotehr 8 years of this shit.

Your ilk will have to walk around with stylish pink "G's" stitched onto all of your clothes, sir.

<cry>  When will other countries start taking Americans as refugees?  

[Van Cruncheon]

WHO'S YOUR FAVORITE JESUS? MINE IS THE ONE THAT LETS ME KILL THE NINFIDELS

[FlameOfCallandor]

Thats funny, my quote didnt mention ron paul anywhere. In fact I wasnt even the first to mention ron paul.

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I believe drinky mention Ron Paul first.

[FlameOfCallandor]

Considering we are currently talking about the republican debate, of which Paul was apart of...it's perfectly valid to discuss him here in the context of the discussion

Exactly, does anyone have the video of Ron Pauls last response. God it was so fucking awesome.

[Mandark]

Ron Paul isn't just against military intervention.  He's also against foreign aid.  And international financial institutions.  And collective security.  And bilateral trade agreements.  And immigration.

Ron Paul believes in the NAFTA Superhighway, which I believe just came up in this debate.

He's an isolationist.  If you want to switch gears and explain why isolationism is awesome, be my guest.

[FlameOfCallandor]

Ron Paul isn't just against military intervention.  He's also against foreign aid.  And international financial institutions.  And collective security.  And bilateral trade agreements.  And immigration.

All good positions.

Ron Paul believes in the NAFTA Superhighway, which I believe just came up in this debate.

He belives in fact?? OMG. Dude the superhighway is real. The texas legislature had to deal with alot of angry farmers last year.

He's an isolationist.  If you want to switch gears and explain why isolationism is awesome, be my guest.

He's not an isolationist.

[Phoenix Dark]

Huckabee is actually sincere about his faith, and serious - unlike Bush. I'd imagine the inevitable democratic congress would keep him in check with regard to that if he becomes president.

I can think of one political issues that I form my opinion on based on religion; when it comes to effecting people's lives, I don't agree with dictating law on the basis of scripture.

First, you better have some evidence if you're going to presume that Bush's faith is more false than, say, yours.

Second, you mean "affecting people's lives".

"Effecting" a life would mean giving birth.

I know what I mean

And with respect to his faith, you're right: I'm in no place to judge anyone's faith; perhaps I worded that poorly. My point was simply that Huckabee's faith is more central to him and his political positions; it's not hard to see Bush isn't particularly interested in abortion, gay marriage, etc. Huckabee has a theological degree, and while I have disagreements with him he definitely knows his stuff.

[Van Cruncheon]

Considering we are currently talking about the republican debate, of which Paul was apart of...it's perfectly valid to discuss him here in the context of the discussion

Exactly, does anyone have the video of Ron Pauls last response. God it was so fucking awesome.

right here: http://galleryofretards.ytmnd.com/

[FlameOfCallandor]

Considering we are currently talking about the republican debate, of which Paul was apart of...it's perfectly valid to discuss him here in the context of the discussion

Exactly, does anyone have the video of Ron Pauls last response. God it was so fucking awesome.

That was pretty sad.   
right here: http://galleryofretards.ytmnd.com/

[FlameOfCallandor]

I wish I could do more to help handicap people. I want to volunteer for the special Olympics one day.

[CajoleJuice]

I volunteered for a local special Olympics once.

I got free taco bell.

[Mandark]

I want to volunteer for the special Olympics one day.

I don't generally make distinguished mentally-challenged fellow jokes, but you're opening the door and putting out a welcome mat.

[FlameOfCallandor]

I don't care. I really feel sorry for them.

[Van Cruncheon]

come on; that song is catchy as hell. if only ron paul could come up with something so memorable

[Van Cruncheon]

I don't care. I really feel sorry for them.

shared pathos?

[FlameOfCallandor]

come on; that song is catchy as hell. if only ron paul could come up with something so memorable

I dont know, I was singing the ron paul rap in the shower this morning.