Mike Huckabee Is Now The Front Runner In Iowa

[Ichirou]

I don't care. I really feel sorry for them.

If you really feel sorry for them, drive on over to Oklahoma and help Synbios jack off.  He'd appreciate it.

[FlameOfCallandor]

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awesome

[Flannel Boy]

Imagine all the people voting for a politician who has a chance of being elected and has some realistic promises.

[xnikki118x]

CBS Poll December 2003
Howard Dean 23%
Wesley Clark 10%
Joe Lieberman 6%
Al Sharpton 6%
Richard Gephardt 5%
John Kerry 4%
 

Then Dean SCREAMED and everything went to shit.

[Gay Boy]

Huckabee is the fucking devil.  I'd vote for Ron Paul out of principle if Huckabee were the opponent.  If a religious cuntjob wins this election, abandon country!  America is dead!  It can't take anotehr 8 years of this shit.

Ron Paul is your only choice. Submit to religion or socialism. Choose your poison.

I cant wait till Ron Paul voters are forced to pick someone else in Iowa. In Iowa if a candidate does not reach 15% the people who voted for him are asked to pick someone new. There is a 15% voter threshold in the state.

[FlameOfCallandor]

Huckabee is the fucking devil.  I'd vote for Ron Paul out of principle if Huckabee were the opponent.  If a religious cuntjob wins this election, abandon country!  America is dead!  It can't take anotehr 8 years of this shit.

Ron Paul is your only choice. Submit to religion or socialism. Choose your poison.

I cant wait till Ron Paul voters are forced to pick someone else in Iowa. In Iowa if a candidate does not reach 15% the people who voted for him are asked to pick someone new. There is a 15% voter threshold in the state.

Most of his supporters would rather leave than vote for anyone else. But that wont happen. He will get above 15%. Did you shit yourself when they showed Ron Paul was #2 in New HAmpshire gay boy? Are you prepared for your ban?

[FlameOfCallandor]

Imagine all the people voting for a politician who has a chance of being elected and has some realistic promises.

Like what? Would you rather vote fora  candidate you dont believe in and win? Is that the most important thing when voting? Voting for a winner? In that case everyone who didnt vote for bush the past two elections is a certified loser.

[FlameOfCallandor]

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All the candidates got to show a video last night. Here is Ron Pauls.

[Fragamemnon]

I cant wait till Ron Paul voters are forced to pick someone else in Iowa. In Iowa if a candidate does not reach 15% the people who voted for him are asked to pick someone new. There is a 15% voter threshold in the state.

Only the Democratic process works like that, if I recall. The GOP process works more "normally" and there is no second ballot, again, if I recall right.

Fuck Huckabee too-if you don't believe in evolution, in my eyes you don't believe in science and you willfully reject modernity.

[Gay Boy]

Huckabee is the fucking devil.  I'd vote for Ron Paul out of principle if Huckabee were the opponent.  If a religious cuntjob wins this election, abandon country!  America is dead!  It can't take anotehr 8 years of this shit.

Ron Paul is your only choice. Submit to religion or socialism. Choose your poison.

I cant wait till Ron Paul voters are forced to pick someone else in Iowa. In Iowa if a candidate does not reach 15% the people who voted for him are asked to pick someone new. There is a 15% voter threshold in the state.

Most of his supporters would rather leave than vote for anyone else. But that wont happen. He will get above 15%. Did you shit yourself when they showed Ron Paul was #2 in New HAmpshire gay boy? Are you prepared for your ban?

Not one single respected polling outlet has ever listed Paul as #2 in NH. Here is a list of EVERY poll from NH. Not one has him in second. Or even third.

http://www.pollster.com/08-NH-Rep-Pres-Primary.php

Also our deal was about Iowa where is fairing worse than NH.

[ToxicAdam]

Just from a completely shallow perspective, President Huckabee sounds like the worst thing I have ever heard of. His name conjures up a caricature of all the backwoods, good ol boy, lynching blackie farmboys that used to grow up in rural Indiana and Ohio. I wouldn't be shocked if he had two sons named Colt and Dylan.

[FlameOfCallandor]

Huckabee is the fucking devil.  I'd vote for Ron Paul out of principle if Huckabee were the opponent.  If a religious cuntjob wins this election, abandon country!  America is dead!  It can't take anotehr 8 years of this shit.

Ron Paul is your only choice. Submit to religion or socialism. Choose your poison.

I cant wait till Ron Paul voters are forced to pick someone else in Iowa. In Iowa if a candidate does not reach 15% the people who voted for him are asked to pick someone new. There is a 15% voter threshold in the state.

Most of his supporters would rather leave than vote for anyone else. But that wont happen. He will get above 15%. Did you shit yourself when they showed Ron Paul was #2 in New HAmpshire gay boy? Are you prepared for your ban?

Not one single respected polling outlet has ever listed Paul as #2 in NH. Here is a list of EVERY poll from NH. Not one has him in second. Or even third.

http://www.pollster.com/08-NH-Rep-Pres-Primary.php

Also our deal was about Iowa where is fairing worse than NH.

No it was about any of the primary states.

[Gay Boy]

Huckabee is the fucking devil.  I'd vote for Ron Paul out of principle if Huckabee were the opponent.  If a religious cuntjob wins this election, abandon country!  America is dead!  It can't take anotehr 8 years of this shit.

Ron Paul is your only choice. Submit to religion or socialism. Choose your poison.

I cant wait till Ron Paul voters are forced to pick someone else in Iowa. In Iowa if a candidate does not reach 15% the people who voted for him are asked to pick someone new. There is a 15% voter threshold in the state.

Most of his supporters would rather leave than vote for anyone else. But that wont happen. He will get above 15%. Did you shit yourself when they showed Ron Paul was #2 in New HAmpshire gay boy? Are you prepared for your ban?

Not one single respected polling outlet has ever listed Paul as #2 in NH. Here is a list of EVERY poll from NH. Not one has him in second. Or even third.

http://www.pollster.com/08-NH-Rep-Pres-Primary.php

Also our deal was about Iowa where is fairing worse than NH.

No it was about any of the primary states.

No that was a deal with someone else, Raol I believe you made one with him if he wins ANY primary.

 Ours was if he gets over 10% in Iowa.

Also nice job ignoring my fact I proved you wrong that he was in second in NH

[Phoenix Dark]

Ok, now this has gone from a discussion on the debate to stupid Ron Paul chat time. He's not getting 10% in any primary so please, stfu

[Gay Boy]

Ok, now this has gone from a discussion on the debate to stupid Ron Paul chat time. He's not getting 10% in any primary so please, stfu

We all know that. He doesn't lol, FoC leaves in little over a month then and then this will be all over and political topics can be decently normal.

[Phoenix Dark]

Politics, Cheebs, and myself. The perfect combination 

So good sir, what have you been hearing about polls that occurred after this debate? Seems like Huckabee is considered the winner of last night's debate by everyone, and he's surging everywhere.

[FlameOfCallandor]

Politics, Cheebs, and myself. The perfect combination 

So good sir, what have you been hearing about polls that occurred after this debate? Seems like Huckabee is considered the winner of last night's debate by everyone, and he's surging everywhere.

Is he surging in your pants?

[FlameOfCallandor]

Ok, now this has gone from a discussion on the debate to stupid Ron Paul chat time. He's not getting 10% in any primary so please, stfu

We all know that. He doesn't lol, FoC leaves in little over a month then and then this will be all over and political topics can be decently normal.

you are the one that keeps bringing up the bet. I wasnt even the firs tperson to mention ron paul in this thread.

[FlameOfCallandor]

OK, now this has gone from a discussion on the debate to stupid Ron Paul chat time. He's not getting 10% in any primary so please, stfu

Same goes for you PD. You worship cheebs, but he is the one that keeps egging me on about Ron Paul. We could have a decent discussion if it wasn't for cheeps and Triumph constantly masterbating their penis.

[Human Snorenado]

OK, now this has gone from a discussion on the debate to stupid Ron Paul chat time. He's not getting 10% in any primary so please, stfu

Same goes for you PD. You worship cheebs, but he is the one that keeps egging me on about Ron Paul. We could have a decent discussion if it wasn't for cheeps and Triumph constantly masterbating their penis.

[Phoenix Dark]

 

[FlameOfCallandor]

 :tbslol

[FlameOfCallandor]

Are aylal done stroking each other's dicks?

[Gay Boy]

Here is my predictions for the republican nominee right now.   How about you PD? I'll throw in the first 4 Republican primaries since after that it's super tuesday

Iowa: Huckabee
NH: Romney
Michigan: Romney
South Carolina: Romney (if Huckabee's Iowa win helps him elsewhere could win this one either way it's going to be close between the two in this race)

Overall: Romney

Nationally I'll say the final tally will come out to be:
1. Romney
2. Rudy
3. Huckabee
4. Thompson
5. McCain
6. Paul
7. Tancredo/Hunter

[Phoenix Dark]

Romney has put so much money into Iowa that it'll be very telling if he loses there. As I predicted, Huckabee is getting a lot of coverage today in the media, and he'll be going one on one with Matthews on Hardball. 7PM, can't wait 

Iowa: Romney (Huckabee in a very close second)
NH: Romney
Michigan: Romney
South Carolina: Huckabee

End results nationally...

1. Romney
2. HUCKABEE - possible VP candidate if Rudy were to win the nom
3. Rudy - I'm expecting his candidacy to implode once the slime reaches the surface
4. Thompson - what happened with him lol
5. McCain - I still fall in love with him sometimes, like last night during his passionate arguments against torture. Too bad that's the only side of him that's honest now
6. Tancredo/Hunter
7. that other guy

[Gay Boy]

Hardball. 7PM, can't wait 

Hardball is on right now... 7 PM is the rerun of it.

[FlameOfCallandor]

Romney has put so much money into Iowa that it'll be very telling if he loses there. As I predicted, Huckabee is getting a lot of coverage today in the media, and he'll be going one on one with Matthews on Hardball. 7PM, can't wait 

Iowa: Romney (Huckabee in a very close second)
NH: Romney
Michigan: Romney
South Carolina: Huckabee

End results nationally...

1. Romney
2. HUCKABEE - possible VP candidate if Rudy were to win the nom
3. Rudy - I'm expecting his candidacy to implode once the slime reaches the surface
4. Thompson - what happened with him lol
5. McCain - I still fall in love with him sometimes, like last night during his passionate arguments against torture. Too bad that's the only side of him that's honest now
6. Tancredo/Hunter
7. that other guy

HAHAHA YOu really think Paul is going to be dead last?

[FlameOfCallandor]

PD what do you disagree with Paul about?

[FlameOfCallandor]

I can't wait to see how wrong you guys are going to be. Will you cry cheebs?

[Ichirou]

Stop picking on FoC, you guys.  It's kind of admirable to see how much faith he has in his candidate of choice.

[Phoenix Dark]

I've made my opinion on Paul known, and I'm not shocked that you've done your hardest to turn this thread into another Paul discussion. Unlike Drinky/Cheebs/Raoul/etc, I'm not going to validate your shitty candidate by discussion him. Like Kucinich (and Rudy) I think he's overall a weak candidate who doesn't understand the current mechanics of the world.

[Ichirou]

Seriously, everyone complains about how FoC turns all political threads into Ron Paul-fests, but it's not like Cheebs and co. don't help.  If they tried to turn the topic to something else, there's not much FoC could do about it, it's not like a single person can dominate an entire discussion.

[Phoenix Dark]

I agree, which is why I refuse to discuss Paul. I even defended FoC early in this thread, but now he's just pulling the same shit again.

back on topic

If Huckabee doesn't win the nomination he seems like the perfect VP candidate for Rudy, but especially Romney. I'd imagine it would calm down the fundamentalists who aren't thrilled about voting for a mormon

[Ichirou]

Romney plus Huckabee - two different kinds of religious nuts that taste great together?

[Flannel Boy]

Romney plus Huckabee - two different kinds of religious nuts that taste great together?

The Republican party: mixed nuts with crackers?

[Phoenix Dark]

Ichi what's your definition of religious nut? Someone who is religious, or something else

[FlameOfCallandor]

NEWS FLASH: I DIDNT BRING RON PAUL TO THIS THREAD

[FlameOfCallandor]

I've made my opinion on Paul known, and I'm not shocked that you've done your hardest to turn this thread into another Paul discussion. Unlike Drinky/Cheebs/Raoul/etc, I'm not going to validate your shitty candidate by discussion him. Like Kucinich (and Rudy) I think he's overall a weak candidate who doesn't understand the current mechanics of the world.

Right... he understands the world better than your ass ever will.

[Van Cruncheon]

a "religious nut" is anyone who wants to legislate their extremely subjective interpretation of their holy writ

[Phoenix Dark]

I've made my opinion on Paul known, and I'm not shocked that you've done your hardest to turn this thread into another Paul discussion. Unlike Drinky/Cheebs/Raoul/etc, I'm not going to validate your shitty candidate by discussion him. Like Kucinich (and Rudy) I think he's overall a weak candidate who doesn't understand the current mechanics of the world.

Right... he understands the world better than your ass ever will.

And so does Henry Kissinger, what's your point?

Prole: i agree

[bagofeyes]

more like fuckabee lol!

[FlameOfCallandor]

And so does Henry Kissinger, what's your point?

That you suck at choosing presidents.

[Ichirou]

Ichi what's your definition of religious nut? Someone who is religious, or something else

For example, someone who doesn't believe in evolution.

[FlameOfCallandor]

I think McCain has some sort of psychological complex that came from his experience in Vietnam. I think deep down inside he knows that he was sent to Vietnam for a pointless war that achieved nothing. But he can't attack those who sent him to Vietnam because those people are long gone. Rather, McCain projects his anger on anti-war elements such as those which protested the war in Vietnam. Thus, he flips out whenever anyone advocates changing our foreign policy in a fundamental way, because such change would essentially confirm McCain's worst nightmare: that this country sent him to Vietnam for nothing.

[Gay Boy]

I think McCain has some sort of psychological complex that came from his experience in Vietnam. I think deep down inside he knows that he was sent to Vietnam for a pointless war that achieved nothing. But he can't attack those who sent him to Vietnam because those people are long gone. Rather, McCain projects his anger on anti-war elements such as those which protested the war in Vietnam. Thus, he flips out whenever anyone advocates changing our foreign policy in a fundamental way, because such change would essentially confirm McCain's worst nightmare: that this country sent him to Vietnam for nothing.

I think McCain is loyal. It's part of his army mindset. Despite how wrong it is he is is loyal to his party and army.

[FlameOfCallandor]

I think McCain is loyal. It's part of his army mindset. Despite how wrong it is he is is loyal to his party and army.

Thats deep man

[Phoenix Dark]

I think McCain is loyal. It's part of his army mindset. Despite how wrong it is he is is loyal to his party and army.

Thats deep man

It's the truth, and is far more documented than your opinion. Like Powell and countless other military men who have entered the political realm, McCain remains a good soldier. If anything his annoyance with the anti-war movement is justified. He spent years as a prisoner in Vietnam, saw his buddies die, etc only to come back to a country that didn't respect his sacrifices. I'm not saying I supported the Vietnam war, but at the end of the day any anger on the subject should not be aimed at those who fought in it; they did the best they could do, essentially being used as pawns for a failed military strategy.
 
If you've ever talked with someone who fought in Vietnam or even Iraq, they won't tell you their buddies died for "nothing". A soldier who jumps on a grenade to save members of his platoon didn't die for "nothing".

[FlameOfCallandor]

If you've ever talked with someone who fought in Vietnam or even Iraq, they won't tell you their buddies died for "nothing". A soldier who jumps on a grenade to save members of his platoon didn't die for "nothing".

Maybe, but I don't think they are dying for my freedom either.

Also, Ron Paul served in the air force during vietnam. Just sayin...

[Phoenix Dark]

If you've ever talked with someone who fought in Vietnam or even Iraq, they won't tell you their buddies died for "nothing". A soldier who jumps on a grenade to save members of his platoon didn't die for "nothing".

Maybe, but I don't think they are dying for my freedom either.

Also, Ron Paul served in the air force during vietnam. Just sayin...

I don't either, and that is irrelevent to my point.

I respect McCain for his service, but I'll always be disappointed that he traded his soul for political gain. And based on the polls, it looks like he severely miscalculated. Many on the right still hate him, and many on the religious right still don't trust him.

[FlameOfCallandor]

If you've ever talked with someone who fought in Vietnam or even Iraq, they won't tell you their buddies died for "nothing". A soldier who jumps on a grenade to save members of his platoon didn't die for "nothing".

Maybe, but I don't think they are dying for my freedom either.

Also, Ron Paul served in the air force during vietnam. Just sayin...

I don't either, and that is irrelevent to my point.

I respect McCain for his service, but I'll always be disappointed that he traded his soul for political gain. And based on the polls, it looks like he severely miscalculated. Many on the right still hate him, and many on the religious right still don't trust him.

He also took out a 3 million dollar loan to pay for his campaign. I feel sorry for the guy. He's just an irrelevant old fart.

[Phoenix Dark]

Like Ron Paul?

McCain's influence on politics is much more relevant than Paul, who hasn't been in charge of anything in congress over 10 terms.

[FlameOfCallandor]

Like Ron Paul?

Yea but Ron Paul actually makes sense, not to mention he wants change. Mccain is just more of the same shit "Stay the course"

[Ichirou]

PD, wtf.  You were the one who said you weren't going to feed into FoC's Ron Paul mania, and here you are, doing it again.

[Phoenix Dark]

PD, wtf.  You were the one who said you weren't going to feed into FoC's Ron Paul mania, and here you are, doing it again.

He set that one up too well; I actually thought it was bait or something lol. NO MORE

Ichi, hold me

[FlameOfCallandor]

Did you vote in 2004 PD? If so for who?

[Ichirou]

I was reading how in the latest Zogby poll, all the current major Republican candidates would beat Hillary Clinton in a general election.  Discuss.

[FlameOfCallandor]

I was reading how in the latest Zogby poll, all the current major Republican candidates would beat Hillary Clinton in a general election.  Discuss.

Cause Hollary is fucking distinguished mentally-challenged. I hope no one here would vote for her over Ron Paul no matter how much you hate Ron Paul.

[Ichirou]

John Edwards seems to be the best candidate on the Democrats' side.  I wish I wasn't just an observer in this and could actually vote.

[FlameOfCallandor]

John Edwards seems to be the best candidate on the Democrats' side.  I wish I wasn't just an observer in this and could actually vote.

I like Bill Richardson.

[Phoenix Dark]

I was reading how in the latest Zogby poll, all the current major Republican candidates would beat Hillary Clinton in a general election.  Discuss.

Huh, do you have a link? I've never seen a poll with a republican beating Hillary in a general.

Foc: I wasn't old enough to vote in 2004; I voted for the first time in 2006. If I was able to, I would have voted for Kerry no questions asked