Devil May Cry 4 demo

[Rman]

The special edition's difficulty was nerfed, though.

[Mupepe]

95 percent you dirty little bastards.

SOMEONE CHANGE THE TITLE TO "That arrogant kid possesses de...de...de...demonic power!"

[demi]

This game is so good so good so good so good so good so good

[brawndolicious]

the graphics were crappy but who cares?

the gameplay wasn't interesting at all.  I never played a DMC game before but the AI was crappy.  and there weren't very many combos.  honestly, Conan shits all over this from a great height.

[Mupepe]

FUCKING ORGASM   OMG I HAVE TO LEAVE IN A MINUTE BUT OMG  OMG OMG OMG  

the graphics were crappy but who cares?

the gameplay wasn't interesting at all.  I never played a DMC game before but the AI was crappy.  and there weren't very many combos.  honestly, Conan shits all over this from a great height.

ok now you're doing the "bad taste" thing on purpose.  you have to be.

[hyp]

woop woop, wifey confirmed that my download is complete.  *cheers*

[demi]

the graphics were crappy but who cares?

the gameplay wasn't interesting at all.  I never played a DMC game before but the AI was crappy.  and there weren't very many combos.  honestly, Conan shits all over this from a great height.

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take the hint

[brawndolicious]

who here has actually played the full game of conan?  it's got much more combos and a more technical fighting system.  I just like fighting systems like that more.

In DMC, there was no enemy with great AI.  there were NOT very many combos.  maybe I'm wrong, I'll give it another try.

[TVC15]

The gameplay was piss easy.  I'm hoping this isn't another DMC2.  I bet they totally made the game gay easy in order to justify the cost.  Also, Nero is a homosexual.

[brawndolicious]

DMC isn't about combos genius.

..explain.  I have to totally not be getting something.

[demi]

DMC isn't about combos genius.

..explain.  I have to totally not be getting something.

LEAVE

[Beezy]

DMC isn't about combos genius.

..explain.  I have to totally not be getting something.

Explain what?

[brawndolicious]

how is DMC4 good in gameplay?

[abrader]

I finally played this and I had a good time with it.

The PS3 demo has rumble enabled <3

The new puppet enemies look kinda goofy - but the boss fight was amazing as others have commented.

I changed my mind and will get this.

[Mr. Gundam]

Just finished playing through both modes in the demo, I had fun with it. Can't wait for Lion Games to ship out my $45 preorder!

[bork]

Am Nintenho, DMC1 wasn't about combos.  That didn't happen until DMC3, which lets you get insane with combos, fighting game style.  I never played much of the game because I got my ass kicked by the first boss you encounter...like within the first five minutes of the game!     I need to go back and play it already, but there was just something that stopped me from doing so.  It can't be the difficulty alone because that didn't stop me from loving Godhand (Another game I need to finish!).

DMC1 was like a 3D Castlevania, only the protagonist actually had a personality. 

imma download the demo when I get home, but does it let you play as Dante, or just Nero?

[demi]

Just Nero

One mode is timed, the other is short but untimed

[drohne]

huh -- turns out motion blur is PS3 EXCLUSIVE

if you've got both versions and a tv with a freeze function, try freezing the image while panning around

this accounts for the misleading comparison shots in which the 360 version seems much sharper

xenos budget gpu

[TVC15]

DMC4 bomba.  Capcom dumbed it down for pussy gamers.  DMC2 allllllll over again.  Production budgets are just too high for them to make something for hardcore people only.

Unfortunately, the Fancy Fightin' genre is the only genre of gaming where I like extreme difficulty.  Capbomba.

[Van Cruncheon]

crank the difficulty and play the xxxtreme mode, hairpants!

[TVC15]

crank the difficulty and play the xxxtreme mode, hairpants!

If the default isn't geared towards difficult, that means that any added difficulty in later modes is MOST LIKELY half-assed.

[Van Cruncheon]

nero >>>> dante, bitchtits

vroom vroom

devil bringer

[MCD]

I need to change Y button to X ASAP

slashing my sword with X NG style 

[demi]

Yea the Y button is awkward placement, I really want to tweak the controls on retail

[MCD]

huh -- turns out motion blur is PS3 EXCLUSIVE

if you've got both versions and a tv with a freeze function, try freezing the image while panning around

this accounts for the misleading comparison shots in which the 360 version seems much sharper

xenos budget gpu

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1120927&postcount=92

[drohne]

yeah, that b3d post confirms what i'm seeing. there's no significant difference in texture resolution, though there is a slight difference in filtering and the usual difference in contrast. the comparisons in which the 360 version appears much sharper are due to the ps3 version's motion blur -- they're taken when the camera is moving.

[MCD]

hmm...strange if true.

also, what's up with the cut scenes? some gaffers say they are 30fps locked for the 360 and 30 to 60 for the ps3. (which is probably why TTP said ps3 version stutters)

[drohne]

yeah, the cutscenes do sometimes hit 60 fps in the ps3 version. i think ttp was talking about that one pan over the burning cars, which does seem to stutter on ps3. i don't share his verdict that the 360 version runs better, tho -- i've seen a few instances of screen tearing

anyway, seems like the ps3 version is the one to get if you own both consoles, though really the differences are minute. it's one of the closest cross-platform comparisons i've seen

[MCD]

I will get the PS3 version if i can't tweak the 360 control buttons to my preference.

[Kyle]

some cut-scenes in the 360, are 60fps locked, some of them are 30fps + post-processing. 

[bork]

Tried it on both platforms; the differences are pretty minuscule so there's no reason to make a big deal out of which version you get.  I'm getting it on PS3 because the controller just feels better to me; guess I'm too used to DMC on PS2.

[abrader]

DMC 1 had combos - the better you did the more red souls you got for the kills.

[demi]

Since you cant switch up types with Nero in the demo, it reminded me more like DMC1 and took my time. I just wish he was faster. I still don't like his gun.

[Mupepe]

Played this game some more last night.  So fuckin amazing

I'll get the superior PS3 version when I get my PS3 too

[Rman]

Since you cant switch up types with Nero in the demo, it reminded me more like DMC1 and took my time. I just wish he was faster. I still don't like his gun.

Does Nero have styles as well?

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

huh -- turns out motion blur is PS3 EXCLUSIVE

if you've got both versions and a tv with a freeze function, try freezing the image while panning around

this accounts for the misleading comparison shots in which the 360 version seems much sharper

xenos budget gpu

You know, I normally prefer motion blur but there's something about it in DMC4 that doesn't seem right.  It's not like Lost Planet's where it actually helped the game look better....this seems more cheap.  I really prefer the game without it.  And disregarding the still shots floating around the web, after flipping between the two version myself it was surprisingly pretty clear that the 360 game had better image quality.  I really didn't think it'd be noticible at all, but there it was.  The PS3 version also seemed to have a slight frame stutter a couple times in the demo that wasn't present in the 360 version.

That being said, the cinemas are running at half the framerate on the 360 and I do prefer the sixaxis (but I really miss the rumble on the 360 pad).

I really don't know what version I'll pick up though.

[y2kev]

u shud hav picked up the dual shok 3 for 90 dollars FUD SPREADER

/sprocket

[T234]

I thought this was awesome.

OT: I've been downloading that "The Club" demo for 36 fuckin hours now. This shit better be good.

[Robo]

Since you cant switch up types with Nero in the demo, it reminded me more like DMC1 and took my time. I just wish he was faster. I still don't like his gun.

He seems like he's about as fast as Dante is in DMC3 when you aren't using Trickster, which is still considerably faster than Dante in DMC1.  I'm gonna guess that all changes anyway when you start gaining more abilities.  Same with his gun -- seems like a huge downgrade after Ebony & Ivory, but hopefully it's powered up fairly quickly.

I do like that added sprint ability.  Pretty much a necessity with a bulk of the areas being more open.

[Rman]

Man, this demo is so addictive.  Gonna play a lot more over the weekend.

I will miss the rumble since I'm picking up the ps3 version.  No way in hell am I paying $90 for DS3. 

[drohne]

the latest from b3d, explaining the effect i mistook for motion blur:

Originally Posted by idsn6 View Post
This kind of temporal AA/blur is a very, very old technique, long before shaders. It's not an extra, it's a compromise: apparently they didn't have the resources to do 2xMSAA in a single 60Hz frame on the PS3, so they just render it raw and jitter the next frame for an amortized approximation.

The thing is, this trick only works for static scenes with a static camera, since it's stretching out the operation over several frames. Otherwise you tend to get a blurred mess.

so i guess the 360 version is better after all

rsx budget gpu

[y2kev]

That's stupid programming. I'd rather have jaggy city than that shit 

[hyp]

explains why the "motion blur" i was experiencing on the ps3 was kind of janky.  didn't really look like an intentional effect, just looked extra blurry.

[Smooth Groove]

Temporal AA looks very good when it works properly.  It's hard to see the effect w/ static images but it makes everything look smoother in motion.  The only problem is that the framerate has to never dip below 60 for it to work properly, which is why it's a rarely used technique. 

[drohne]

this technique isn't the same as the temporal aa on ati video cards -- it's much simpler

i thought the 'motion blur' effect looked pretty cool when i was freezing my tv during camera pans -- it made these neat swirly patterns in textures! -- but i'll have to take a closer look at it tonight

[MCD]

the more you know.

[CurseoftheGods]

I just played the 360 demo. I usually don't notice these kind of things, but the 360 version does look a fair bit nicer and cleaner than its PS3 counterpart.

I think I am going to pick up the PS3 version though. I like the DS3 for action games. 

[Smooth Groove]

I just played the 360 demo. I usually don't notice these kind of things, but the 360 version does look a fair bit nicer and cleaner than its PS3 counterpart.

I think I am going to pick up the PS3 version though. I like the DS3 for action games. 

Try the Hori pad.  Drohne was singing its praises to divert attention from his Sony bias at GAF. 

[MCD]

360 pad is fine as long as i can change rb to rt and y to x.

[Vizzys]

game is fun

its easier then DMC3 imo

ps3 version looks ok here, not amazing but better than last gen

[drohne]

Try the Hori pad.  Drohne was singing its praises to divert attention from his Sony bias at GAF. 

my fondness for the hori pad is wholly consistent with my sony bias -- aside from its stick placement, it's closer in feel to sony's pads than microsoft's. and yeah, i wouldn't want to play dmc4 with the stock 360 pad's mushy face buttons, useless bumpers, and long-throw triggers

hori pad

[brawndolicious]

I'll try the demo a little more.  I played through the 10 minute mode and so I learned some of the combos you can do.  I'll try the boss battle and see if I can beat it.

You know, I normally prefer motion blur but there's something about it in DMC4 that doesn't seem right.  It's not like Lost Planet's where it actually helped the game look better....this seems more cheap.  I really prefer the game without it.  And disregarding the still shots floating around the web, after flipping between the two version myself it was surprisingly pretty clear that the 360 game had better image quality.  I really didn't think it'd be noticible at all, but there it was.  The PS3 version also seemed to have a slight frame stutter a couple times in the demo that wasn't present in the 360 version.
That being said, the cinemas are running at half the framerate on the 360 and I do prefer the sixaxis (but I really miss the rumble on the 360 pad).
I really don't know what version I'll pick up though.

for the AA thing, apparently LP used some sort of "2.5D" motion blur to make it look like a 60 fps game.  iirc, the game also had the particle effects running at 1/4 the resolution so maybe that motion blur technique was very processor intensive?  Maybe they used a form of this for DMC4?

[Smooth Groove]

Try the Hori pad.  Drohne was singing its praises to divert attention from his Sony bias at GAF.  

my fondness for the hori pad is wholly consistent with my sony bias -- aside from its stick placement, it's closer in feel to sony's pads than microsoft's. and yeah, i wouldn't want to play dmc4 with the stock 360 pad's mushy face buttons, useless bumpers, and long-throw triggers

hori pad

I'll give a try even though the D-pad is the only thing I hate about the 360 controller.

Where can I find it?

Also, I remember that you have the Hori stick for the 360.  Would you recommend that too?  Is it similar to the one for the PS3?  

not amazing but better than last gen

I like DMC4's balance of pretty graphics and performance.  Most of the top next-gen titles have nice visuals but I can barely stand their 30fps with fair amounts of slowdown and tearing.  More games need to go the 60fps route like Burnout and DMC4.

Btw, my observations are based on the PS3 version.  I'll check out the 360 demo later tonight.  Hopefully, the PC demo will be arriving soon.    

[drohne]

the d-pad is the only really bad thing about the 360 controller, but its face buttons aren't responsive enough for a game like dmc, and its shoulder buttons are inappropriate. if i didn't have the hori pad, i'd go with the ps3 version, AA be damned. there are a bunch of them on ebay. you also might try japanvideogames.com, though i seem to have gotten their last one

and yeah, the 360 hori sticks are virtually identical to the basic hori ps3 sticks.

[Smooth Groove]

and yeah, the 360 hori sticks are virtually identical to the basic hori ps3 sticks.

That's a major rip off by Hori then.  The Virtua Stick:High Grade sells for less than $60 in Japan. 

[Mupepe]

i'm playing this with the analog stick, not the d-pad

[drohne]

yeah, i don't think you can play it with the d-pad -- the d-pad comments weren't in reference to dmc4

[y2kev]

The new EX stuff is totally wrecking my shit. It adds a whole new dimension to the combo building.

Now I have to watch cancelling, rebounding, AND time my ex presses, and this is before I have to consider actually fighting the baddies.

lol so awesome

[Smooth Groove]

Drohe, does the japanvideogames store have better prices than they do online?  I just found out that it's only about a 30-45 minute drive for me. 

[hyp]

Drohe, does the japanvideogames store have better prices than they do online?  I just found out that it's only about a 30-45 minute drive for me. 

smooth, fry's sells the hori pad.  cheap too, like $29.99 last i saw.  that is, if you've got a fry's around.