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Re: Lets review PS3
« Reply #60 on: January 30, 2008, 05:27:39 PM »
Well, take solace in the fact that you guys still have fans [Visual Studio (fucking plugins) and IE6 or older aside].
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Re: Lets review PS3
« Reply #61 on: January 30, 2008, 05:30:17 PM »


I'm a PS3 fan and I haven't bought one (or a PS2 for that matter) and have no plans to ever buy one.  Fans aren't necessarily people who've bought the console.

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Re: Lets review PS3
« Reply #62 on: January 30, 2008, 05:44:59 PM »
my opinion:

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Games: uncharted is a good rental and devil may cry 4 should be your first purchase.

Online Game Library: i wouldnt know, my debit card wont work it has a visa logo but no :( no psn cards anywhere, so big failure so far from sony

Online community: mostly good, provided you find someone with a mic and gather up some teamwork
the people with mics are usually big assholes much like xbox live. Half baked friends list/invite system means you will never play your friends unless you call them up or something. But hey its free :LOL

Controller: much like the dual shock, so its ok, better thumbsticks, worse "triggers".Motion stuff is tacked on.
Havent got the rumble controller yet, but I used to hear it was impossible to make. Praise be to Sony for making the impossible, possible. :bow

The fans: I like sony, having bought the first two consoles at launch I assure you ps3 is a disaster of epic proportions. Those who defended the ps3 before this year are insane, stay clear. This console was vastly overpriced.

Now that its starting to come down in price and get a few worthwhile games, maybe pick one up. If you are looking to play games online, try xbox live and never go back. It will take an act of god for sony to compete with xbox live at this point.

Blu-ray: its like hd-dvd only blue, but having compared the two they really are not much different, visually. But hd-dvd is pretty much dead now so if you like movies in HD, get a PS3. Sony depends on you, it was a smart move to include it, honestly.
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Re: Lets review PS3
« Reply #63 on: January 30, 2008, 06:43:43 PM »
Games: I don't think it's really that bad, tbh. Most multi platform games are worse, but there's still some good ones out there. I mainly prefer most third party titles on PS3, as opposed to the overhyped first party titles that are promptly forgotten upon release.

Controller: I never had a problem with it, though the 360 controller is far more comfortable (possibly the most ergonomic controller ever).

online: Don't have much interest in HOME, but Super Stardust HD is awesome.

Blu-ray player: I likes it.

Fans: Each console has its fair share of rabid fanboys, but PS3 fans have especially gone off the deep end. And it becomes clearer with each passing day, with comments such as 'Who needs backwards compatibility? What do you think my PS2 is for?!"

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« Reply #64 on: January 30, 2008, 07:31:31 PM »
Games: Meh.  Uncharted and SSHD are its best original games.  The timed VF5 exclusive was fun as well.  Too bad the 360 version is superior.  I hate double dipping on games.  But I love VF5 and will have to buy it again for the 360 for the online and version c. additions.  2008 looks promising.  It's funny how this thing reminds me of the Nintendo consoles of old, due to the reliance of 1st and 2nd party games.

Controller: Sixaxis motion controls seems tacked on.  I still get dropouts--will get a ds3 when its released in NA due to this--and the triggers are horrendous.

Online.  Lack of users and community are its weak points.  Its good for a free service, not steam levels obviously.  They need to get some better UI designers for their store. 

Blu-ray player: I :heart it. 

Fans: They don't bother me.  To each his own.

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Re: Lets review PS3
« Reply #65 on: January 30, 2008, 07:35:45 PM »
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Also, where's the PS3 equivalent of PGR4 and Forza 2?  A one track demo?

PS3 doesn't have an equivalent to the PGR series.  Too bad PGR4 sold like shit though, and is the last exclusive developed by Bizarre Creations to grace the 360.  That means if there is a PGR5 it will be a multiplatform game. 

Oh yeah, and get your fucking facts straight before you even bother trying to respond to people in the future.  GT5 Prologue has 10 track variations, with 5 of the enviornments being unique.  Hardly "1 track" as you put it.  ::)



Are we including Jap games in the discussion now? GT5P isn't available in NA.  Even if someone goes through the trouble of getting GT5P from the Japanese PSN store, he would still have to somehow make sense of all the Japanese text. With all the tuning being such a big part of GT, it's just not worth the trouble if you can't read japanese. 

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You might be right about the software sales really hurting the PS3 in the long run.  Time will tell.  No doubt the software hasn't been impressive for the most part.

On that last part, you need to check your facts here as well.  I never said the gap was shrinking, but rather the later into 2007 we got, the more the monthly gap narrowed between the 360 and PS3 in North America.  In other words, the PS3 was gaining on it month after month.  If you translate that out into the future, eventually the PS3 will catch it, and possibly overtake it. 

According to most analysts it will overtake it.  Just a matter of when.


So it's kinda like how Xbox kept closing the gap in monthly sales until it passed the PS2. 

Oh, wait... 

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Re: Lets review PS3
« Reply #66 on: January 30, 2008, 07:39:07 PM »
the ps3 can't "close the gap" in NA until it starts outselling the 360 in NA. currently, the trend is just that the 360's lead is growing a little slower, but the gap is still growing. ps3 am bomba

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« Reply #67 on: January 30, 2008, 07:44:52 PM »
Don't you guys think just on PAL land and Japan alone that the PS3 will outsell the 360 worldwide.  I don't think it will be a ridiculous margin like last gen.  Japan has been pretty cold on x360.  And in PAL land, sans the UK, 360 sales have been tepid at best.

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« Reply #68 on: January 30, 2008, 07:45:38 PM »
Pal has never mattered, and Japan stopped mattering when the Wii came out. HUAGH HUAGH TROLL
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« Reply #69 on: January 30, 2008, 07:49:27 PM »
I don't know, MAF.  Konami and Squeenix are still holding some big guns with MSG4 and FFXIII. 

I don't think it will matter this year, but with price drops, Sony may be on its way on resurrecting hard core gaming in Nihongo.
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« Reply #70 on: January 30, 2008, 08:04:08 PM »
Do you really think they'll do that?  I don't, at least not until sometime in 2009 if at all.  It would give off the air of concession.

They already conceded when they scrapped their HD-DVD stuff from CES.  The Blu-Ray addon should be rolling out sometime this year, I gather.  Apparently, with Microsoft serving as a vendor for the Blu-Ray tech, sales representatives are apparently heading to Sony's operations in San Jose for training.
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« Reply #71 on: January 30, 2008, 08:16:05 PM »
Game Library = seven or eight good exclusive games. pretty decent for a year-old console. what's holding it back at this point are the inferior versions of practically everything multiplatform.

Online Game Library = sshd and everday shooter were my favorite downloadable games until omega five happened. wipeout hd looks awesome.

Online Community/Store = oh no a webpage how will i ever manage. fanboys will argue about anything these days.

Controller = except for the signal dropouts, i like it well enough

The Fans = delusional, as fanboys invariably are -- but the ps3's various misfortunes keep them from being as nauseatingly smug as xbots

Bluray Playback = <3

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Re: Lets review PS3
« Reply #72 on: January 30, 2008, 08:20:41 PM »
nauseatingly smug? i defy you to find a xbot thread comparable to the delusion on parade in that uncharted thread.
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Re: Lets review PS3
« Reply #73 on: January 30, 2008, 08:21:28 PM »
It takes more than two games I hate to res hardcore gaming
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Re: Lets review PS3
« Reply #74 on: January 30, 2008, 08:22:53 PM »
nauseatingly smug? i defy you to find a xbot thread comparable to the delusion on parade in that uncharted thread.

wait for too human thread!
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« Reply #75 on: January 30, 2008, 08:23:41 PM »
i will enjoy bashing too human myself!
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Re: Lets review PS3
« Reply #76 on: January 30, 2008, 08:23:49 PM »
Game Library = seven or eight good exclusive games. pretty decent for a year-old console. what's holding it back at this point are the inferior versions of practically everything multiplatform.

Online Game Library = sshd and everday shooter were my favorite downloadable games until omega five happened. wipeout hd looks awesome.

Online Community/Store = oh no a webpage how will i ever manage. fanboys will argue about anything these days.

Controller = except for the signal dropouts, i like it well enough

The Fans = delusional, as fanboys invariably are -- but the ps3's various misfortunes keep them from being as nauseatingly smug as xbots

Bluray Playback = <3

I expect more from a company that promised it would rival Live. Dont make promises if you cant keep them at least in part. PSN is a sluggish ugly beast with very few things I wanna download.
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« Reply #77 on: January 30, 2008, 08:26:22 PM »
"Sluggish"? Probably in loading pages. They should hide it better with a blade animation! "Ugly"? I think it's actually very pretty. Looks like iTunes' homepage.

It's problem is, IMO, that there is no way to deep search and the top level categorization is ass.
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Re: Lets review PS3
« Reply #78 on: January 30, 2008, 08:27:24 PM »
I think my real problem is that the PS3 AS A GAMING CONSOLE is in such a bad spot, anyone being an apologist for stuff normally trounced on when MS or Nintendo do it in a mistep just makes me wanna walk away.

Why discuss stuff with people who are willing to settle for mediocre over honest effort. Blah. Talking in these threads makes me feel like those tv movies where im the only sane person in the asylum and it was all a horrible paperwork mixup.
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« Reply #79 on: January 30, 2008, 08:30:13 PM »
Don't pretend you want to have honest conversation! ps3 nonbudget budget console :gloomy
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« Reply #80 on: January 30, 2008, 08:31:08 PM »
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Re: Lets review PS3
« Reply #81 on: January 30, 2008, 08:32:07 PM »
I like the PS3 and don't regret my purchase.  But the backlash Sony has been experiencing is simple: they overpromised and underdelivered.

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« Reply #82 on: January 30, 2008, 08:35:26 PM »
leave Too human 'bashing' for Kittonwy plz
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« Reply #83 on: January 30, 2008, 08:36:16 PM »
nauseatingly smug? i defy you to find a xbot thread comparable to the delusion on parade in that uncharted thread.

what, you mean that guy who kept going on about lightmaps and clive cussler, whoever clive cussler is meant to be? :-*

in any case, i can't recall that it's ever been so 'cool' to believe that everything worth playing is on one console -- and i've seen much better consoles than 360 come and go

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« Reply #84 on: January 30, 2008, 08:47:40 PM »

The Fans = delusional, as fanboys invariably are -- but the ps3's various misfortunes keep them from being as nauseatingly smug as xbots


Come on, now.  Did you forget how you were treatred by Sfags in the DMC4 thread?  Even though Sony's in last place, their fans' rabid fanaticism is growing exponentially by the day.  
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« Reply #85 on: January 30, 2008, 08:48:24 PM »
nauseatingly smug? i defy you to find a xbot thread comparable to the delusion on parade in that uncharted thread.

in any case, i can't recall that it's ever been so 'cool' to believe that everything worth playing is on one console -- and i've seen much better consoles than 360 come and go

I don't think as long as we have multiple gaming platforms that will ever be the case.  Even though the PS2 destroyed its competition, beginning with Dreamcast, there are many great games the other consoles. 

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« Reply #86 on: January 30, 2008, 08:48:30 PM »
Do you really think they'll do that?  I don't, at least not until sometime in 2009 if at all.  It would give off the air of concession.

They already conceded when they scrapped their HD-DVD stuff from CES.  The Blu-Ray addon should be rolling out sometime this year, I gather.  Apparently, with Microsoft serving as a vendor for the Blu-Ray tech, sales representatives are apparently heading to Sony's operations in San Jose for training.

Well, by "concession" I meant in the sense that it would come off as an admission that Sony was right in including that in their console, added benefit to gamers, etc.
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« Reply #87 on: January 30, 2008, 09:09:44 PM »
what, you mean that guy who kept going on about lightmaps and clive cussler, whoever clive cussler is meant to be? :-*

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« Reply #88 on: January 30, 2008, 09:21:40 PM »
Game Library = Disappointing.  Every console tends to have a sluggish start, but it's been over a year now and I am still waiting for the game library to improve.  Most of my recent purchases for the system have been multiplatform titles, and while that's fine, I want more exclusive games that give me a real reason to own this system.  Sorry, but games like Uncharted, a male Tomb Raider clone, is not enough, nor is Heavenly Sword, a great-looking action game that falls flat where it really counts.  Something is also wrong when some of the most anticipated titles for the system are Home and Little Big Planet (which I'm not dissing), a downloadable title.  Metal Gear Solid 4 and FFXIII (which I don't care about) are not enough.

Online Game Library = There's some really cool games for download.  I like seeing games like Tekken 5 DR and Warhawk pop up, and the more "XBLA" style titles like Super Stardust HD are nice.  It needs more though.

Online Community/Store = What online community?  It's a JOKE.  My friends list is full, but no one is ever on, and when they are on, it's usually for Folding At Home or the occasional demo.  You can't access the XMB in-game and online titles just don't have the community like XBL does.  Microsoft absolutely spanks Sony in this area, free service or not.  The PSN store sucks when you're navigating it, but that's really no big deal.  I don't use it much, but I also like that the PS3 has a WEB BROWSER.

Controller = I have no complaints.  The controller is great.

The Fans = What about them?  Console fanboys are fucking stupid no matter what system they're defending.  Who cares?  I wish I could find a nice gaming forum to post in without this kind of stupidity, where people just enjoy discussing games with one another.  But that doesn't seem to exist.   :-\

Video Playback = Much better than the 360, IMO.  Blu-Ray is nice, but DVDs look better upscaled on my PS3 than they do on my 360.  I also like that I can SAVE VIDEOS ONTO MY PS3 HD.  Why 360 doesn't do this I will never understand.

Backwards Compatablity = Different SKUs with different amounts of BC is absolutely distinguished mentally-challenged on Sony's part.  But I have a launch model system and I can play all my (Japanese) PS1 and PS2 games upscaled.  Some of them also benefit from faster load times.  360's BC is the joke here.

Overall = On its own, I think the PS3 is fine.  It has games like Uncharted, Motorstorm, Resistance, Ninja Gaiden Black, Heavenly Sword, Unreal Tournament III, Tekken 5 DR, (an inferior) Virtua Fighter 5, Orange Box, Ridge Racer 7, Burnout Paradise, Dynasty Warriors Gundam, Dynasty Warriors 6, Ratchet And Clank, Call Of Duty 4, Devil May Cry 4, Minna No Golf 5, and more.  I have to look at the system as a multi-console owner, and in comparison to the 360, that's where it falters.  Generally I'd rather have the multi-platform games on the 360...they either are improved (VF5) or the online community is just far larger (COD4).  But that doesn't make it a bad system.  I think a lot of Evilboreans just don't think about it in this way.  The PS3 has plenty of potential, but it's getting tiring waiting around for the big guns to finally come out, and whether or not they put the PS3 up on top also remains to be seen.  As it stands right now, the PS3 functions as my movie player and "PS2 Turbo."

Game Library = A handful of really solid first party games that appeal to a wide range of people.  Resistance, Motorstorm, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank.  All solid games with Uncharted being the real standout among them.  Most 360 owners would die to have that diverse group of games on their console.

360 certainly HAS those kind of "diverse" (sorry, but FPS, action, and platformers don't scream "diverse" to me) games, but I do agree that Sony is trickling out more solid first party games than Microsoft is, albeit incredibly slow.  
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Re: Lets review PS3
« Reply #89 on: January 30, 2008, 09:25:40 PM »
Uncharted is absolutely nothing like Tomb Raider.
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« Reply #90 on: January 30, 2008, 09:43:03 PM »
Uncharted is absolutely nothing like Tomb Raider.

What I have played of it strikes me as a Tomb Raider style game with much better shooting.
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« Reply #91 on: January 30, 2008, 09:47:41 PM »
I think you mean segues.  Segway is the little motorized walker thing.
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Re: Lets review PS3
« Reply #92 on: January 30, 2008, 09:48:40 PM »
it's Gears of jungle war with tombraider lite segways for me.




yup, Uncharted is mostly a 3rd person shooter set in a jungle.  The challenge of the platforming only comes from knowing where to jump.  The jumps themselves are very easy to execute.  In terms of platforming, I really wish that Uncharted had been more like Tomb Raider.  

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« Reply #93 on: January 30, 2008, 09:51:41 PM »
Come on, now.  Did you forget how you were treatred by Sfags in the DMC4 thread?

that thread is kind of amazing, but i don't think there's anything uniquely sfag about that combination of technical illiteracy and console partisanship -- seems like every gafer is determined to buy dmc4 on the console he prefers. beermonkey's buying the 360 version so he can 'stay connected to the xbox community,' and DMC4 ISN'T EVEN AN ONLINE GAME

no, what's uniquely repulsive about gaf sfags is their adoption of kittonwy speak

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Re: Lets review PS3
« Reply #94 on: January 30, 2008, 09:59:18 PM »
no, what's uniquely repulsive about gaf sfags is their adoption of kittonwy speak

I think that's something we all could agree on.

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« Reply #95 on: January 30, 2008, 10:15:40 PM »
nauseatingly smug? i defy you to find a xbot thread comparable to the delusion on parade in that uncharted thread.

what, you mean that guy who kept going on about lightmaps and clive cussler, whoever clive cussler is meant to be? :-*


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clive_Cussler -- Uncharted is the plot of Sahara :'(

and they use lightmapping in the indoor segments

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Re: Lets review PS3
« Reply #96 on: January 30, 2008, 10:23:21 PM »
Come on, now.  Did you forget how you were treatred by Sfags in the DMC4 thread?

that thread is kind of amazing, but i don't think there's anything uniquely sfag about that combination of technical illiteracy and console partisanship -- seems like every gafer is determined to buy dmc4 on the console he prefers. beermonkey's buying the 360 version so he can 'stay connected to the xbox community,' and DMC4 ISN'T EVEN AN ONLINE GAME

no, what's uniquely repulsive about gaf sfags is their adoption of kittonwy speak

beermonkey is really going all out in that thread  :lol
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« Reply #97 on: January 30, 2008, 10:25:39 PM »
yeah, beermonkey is synapse-searingly stupid. still, the wollan/kittonwy/altogetherandrews trifecta of fanboy delusion has yet to be trumped.
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« Reply #98 on: January 30, 2008, 10:33:36 PM »
Wollan doesn't bug me. He's out there and probably a viral, but at least he's civil and isn't a creepy pedo. AA is an aggressive little one and Kittowny....yeah.

Nobody touches teh kittownz as far as WACKO is.
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« Reply #99 on: January 30, 2008, 10:55:09 PM »
Wollan doesn't bug me. He's out there and probably a viral, but at least he's civil and isn't a creepy pedo. AA is an aggressive little one and Kittowny....yeah.

Nobody touches teh kittownz as far as WACKO is.

Wollan can be adorable sometimes.  :-[

The other two...yeah, they're totally worthy of ridicule.

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« Reply #100 on: January 30, 2008, 11:01:50 PM »
I've got to comment a few patterns I'm seeing in this thread that crack me up.


People who post they like one game and the rest of the system's library is crap.  Do you really think you represent any real gamers out there?  Just because you've become so jaded that nearly NO games appeal to you anymore, doesn't really make your opinion look all that logical to most normal gamers who still enjoy games these days. 

Also, this talk of all multiplatform games on the PS3 being worthless is just not true.  Oblivion, Fight Night, COD4, Burnout Paradise, Devil May Cry 4, etc.  All of those are as good or better than their 360 counterparts.  Yes, there have been some crappy ports, but in general most of them are very similar to their 360 relatives, and sometimes a tad better.  Let's just talk honestly about it, rather than give sensationalist statements that aren't really accurate.

And before any of you reply to that comment, think to yourself if you've actually played any multiplatform games on the PS3.  Don't just repeat the mantra you've pounded into your own head for the past year. 


Also, if you say something like "No one is ever online with their PS3", I've got almost 50 people on my friends list and every night I log on there seems to be 5-10 people playing something online.  I guess I must have just found the only 50 people who regularly play their PS3s.  In other words, just because the people you happen to have on your PS3 friends list don't play games that often, doesn't mean you should proclaim the entire community non existent.  Again, your personal situation does not mean shit for the rest of us.


Also, there is a lot of irony when I see so many people now commenting on the Bluray player being the smartest thing Sony included in the machine.  Oh how I remember so many people swearing that would be the death of the PS3, and how huge of a mistake it was. 
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« Reply #101 on: January 30, 2008, 11:12:30 PM »
there's absolutely no debating with you, you have set your own mind in the exact same way you're accusing others of doing

the only way you'd consider it an "honest" discussion is if everyone agrees with what you're posting, and that ain't gonna happen
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« Reply #102 on: January 30, 2008, 11:17:31 PM »
I've got to comment a few patterns I'm seeing in this thread that crack me up.


People who post they like one game and the rest of the system's library is crap.  Do you really think you represent any real gamers out there?  Just because you've become so jaded that nearly NO games appeal to you anymore, doesn't really make your opinion look all that logical to most normal gamers who still enjoy games these days. 


most "normal" gamers don't even own a ps3 -- it's just not what normal gamers want!

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« Reply #103 on: January 30, 2008, 11:18:05 PM »
there's absolutely no debating with you, you have set your own mind in the exact same way you're accusing others of doing

the only way you'd consider it an "honest" discussion is if everyone agrees with what you're posting, and that ain't gonna happen


Right, right.  Just keep telling yourself that.  :lol  Who do you think you're kidding?  Where is my mind "made up"?
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« Reply #104 on: January 30, 2008, 11:20:12 PM »
As far as fanboys go no one can match the sustained stupidity of Nintendo fans.

yeah, but they've left the hobby altogether. when they make threads about wii fit and smash brothers uber alles, they've ceased to care about games.
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« Reply #105 on: January 30, 2008, 11:22:46 PM »
Keep telling myself what?  I don't even know what the fuck that means.


Fact - every argument you have made in this thread has been countered in some fashion.  In turn, your response posts have been peppered with some variation of "you're just fooling yourselves" or "you're not being honest."  So basically, unless everyone agrees with what you're posting, they're liars.  Seems like a pretty rigid mindset to me.

Plus the smug "chuckling to yourself over these idiots" shtick just reeks of nauseating sony fanaticism
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Re: Lets review PS3
« Reply #106 on: January 30, 2008, 11:25:31 PM »
Real talk. Tigerriot is making me hesitant to buy a PS3 this year.  I already have a real game console - the 360.  But I don't want to become like him.  I DON'T WANT TO BECOME LIKE HIM.
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Re: Lets review PS3
« Reply #107 on: January 30, 2008, 11:29:40 PM »

Also, this talk of all multiplatform games on the PS3 being worthless is just not true.  Oblivion, Fight Night, COD4, Burnout Paradise, Devil May Cry 4, etc.  All of those are as good or better than their 360 counterparts.  Yes, there have been some crappy ports, but in general most of them are very similar to their 360 relatives, and sometimes a tad better.  Let's just talk honestly about it, rather than give sensationalist statements that aren't really accurate.

Yes, yes...I already covered that.  There really are too many multi-console owners that don't take these games into account because they own another system.  It's not that the system "has no games," it's just YOU already owning them.

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Also, if you say something like "No one is ever online with their PS3", I've got almost 50 people on my friends list and every night I log on there seems to be 5-10 people playing something online.  I guess I must have just found the only 50 people who regularly play their PS3s.  In other words, just because the people you happen to have on your PS3 friends list don't play games that often, doesn't mean you should proclaim the entire community non existent.  Again, your personal situation does not mean shit for the rest of us.

You know what the best way to answer this is?  "Your personal situation does not mean shit for the rest of us."   ;)  Live has the community element to it that PSN simply lacks.  FACT.  Certainly I can ALWAYS load up UT3 and find a bunch of games going at any time, and I'm living in a completely different timezone than most of the people usually playing it, but the amount of players and games going are absolutely NOTHING compared to what's going on in Xbox Live games.  Sony needs to get its shit together and improve the PSN's community features.  Perhaps Home will do this.

By the way, most of the people on my friends list have both the PS3 and the 360.  Why aren't they on the PS3?  Simple,  they're playing on Live instead.

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Also, there is a lot of irony when I see so many people now commenting on the Bluray player being the smartest thing Sony included in the machine.  Oh how I remember so many people swearing that would be the death of the PS3, and how huge of a mistake it was. 

Really?  I don't remember that.  I remember plenty of people saying that was SMART because it could help to put Blu-Ray players in homes and popularize the format like the PS2 helped to do with DVDs.  The only thing people diss on the PS3 is its games library, and for good reason.  Multiplayer games don't have the online community that Xbox Live titles do, and they don't have strong enough first party titles like the Wii does.
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Re: Lets review PS3
« Reply #108 on: January 30, 2008, 11:30:42 PM »
Keep telling myself what?  I don't even know what the fuck that means.


Fact - every argument you have made in this thread has been countered in some fashion.  In turn, your response posts have been peppered with some variation of "you're just fooling yourselves" or "you're not being honest."  So basically, unless everyone agrees with what you're posting, they're liars.  Seems like a pretty rigid mindset to me.

Plus the smug "chuckling to yourself over these idiots" shtick just reeks of nauseating sony fanaticism


First off, I'm not arguing with anyone.  My last post in this thread was a general response to the thread.  So you trying to create this illusion that I'm arguing with all of you level headed folks in this thread, rings hollow.

Second, when actual discussions of substance have occured, such as the Burnout thread on this board, I've been the most fair minded person posting in the entire damn thread.  I own both systems, I even own some games on both systems, and when I gave an honest opinion about Burnout on both systems, I was told I was the crazy one.  :lol  I'm all for genuine discussion when it's possible, and I've even engaged in it when possible, but there are a lot of plain old Xbots roaming this forum and it's not lost on me when trying to "discuss" anything related to the PS3.

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Re: Lets review PS3
« Reply #109 on: January 30, 2008, 11:33:28 PM »
when other people give their honest opinions, though, to you they're not being honest

that's not a discussion
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Re: Lets review PS3
« Reply #110 on: January 30, 2008, 11:37:02 PM »
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Re: Lets review PS3
« Reply #111 on: January 30, 2008, 11:40:13 PM »
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Yes, yes...I already covered that.  There really are too many multi-console owners that don't take these games into account because they own another system.  It's not that the system "has no games," it's just YOU already owning them.

See, thats not a problem though.  If someone just said "I buy my multiplatform games on the 360", I wouldn't flinch.  But there have been numerous people in this thread who say things like "The multiplatform games are a joke, or a disaster, or worthless.  Those are the comments that I roll my eyes at.  Thats my point.  Sensationalist inaccurate fanboy statements don't foster real "discussion".  Thats why I lol when people try and act like they're ready for "real discussion".  When you're not even willing to have the discussion in the real world, why even bother?  Of course I'm not talking to you Lyte, but rather the "others".


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You know what the best way to answer this is?  "Your personal situation does not mean shit for the rest of us."   ;)  Live has the community element to it that PSN simply lacks.  FACT.  Certainly I can ALWAYS load up UT3 and find a bunch of games going at any time, and I'm living in a completely different timezone than most of the people usually playing it, but the amount of players and games going are absolutely NOTHING compared to what's going on in Xbox Live games.  Sony needs to get its shit together and improve the PSN's community features.  Perhaps Home will do this.

See, this is one thing I have to question with you.  Does it really matter if the COD4 online community is 2 million like it is on the 360, or 700,000 on the PS3?  For you jumping online to get into some games right now, does that really matter?  People talk about this "community", and I just don't get it.  Like it really matters to me trying to find a game.

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Re: Lets review PS3
« Reply #112 on: January 30, 2008, 11:43:21 PM »
Real talk. Tigerriot is making me hesitant to buy a PS3 this year.  I already have a real game console - the 360.  But I don't want to become like him.  I DON'T WANT TO BECOME LIKE HIM.

A perfect microcosm of this thread.  For realz guyz, I'm thinking about buying a PS3, but Tigerriot is making me not want to.  Right, I'm sure you had your wallet in hand on your way to buy a PS3 tonight, but then you saw this thread.  Yeah, I'm believing it.


But seriously, lets have a "real" discussion guyz.



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when other people give their honest opinions, though, to you they're not being honest

that's not a discussion

I like how you completely ignored all the relevant aspects of my statement about this thread.  When people make factually incorrect statements, that they know are factually incorrect, they're not being honest with themselves or anyone else in this thread.  You can ignore that if you want, since those statements perfectly reflect your own console leanings, but that doesn't make the "discussion" any more real.  Until you reply to my previous post in this thread that I directed at you, I'm ignoring you.
« Last Edit: January 30, 2008, 11:48:13 PM by Tigerriot »

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Re: Lets review PS3
« Reply #113 on: January 30, 2008, 11:53:57 PM »
Quote from: Tigerriot
Also, when you talk about this "Sony fanboys said this stuff" you take on this attitude of serious anger towards the people that dared to say such things on a message board after an E3 event. Do you really take this stuff that seriously?  That personally?  My god.  You need to really try and ignore a lot of that crap.  You're trying to recall things said on some message board by some random dude 3 years ago as somehow relevant to a discussion we're having right now.


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Also, there is a lot of irony when I see so many people now commenting on the Bluray player being the smartest thing Sony included in the machine.  Oh how I remember so many people swearing that would be the death of the PS3, and how huge of a mistake it was.


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Re: Lets review PS3
« Reply #114 on: January 30, 2008, 11:57:34 PM »

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Re: Lets review PS3
« Reply #115 on: January 30, 2008, 11:59:09 PM »
Quote from: Tigerriot
Also, when you talk about this "Sony fanboys said this stuff" you take on this attitude of serious anger towards the people that dared to say such things on a message board after an E3 event. Do you really take this stuff that seriously?  That personally?  My god.  You need to really try and ignore a lot of that crap.  You're trying to recall things said on some message board by some random dude 3 years ago as somehow relevant to a discussion we're having right now.


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Also, there is a lot of irony when I see so many people now commenting on the Bluray player being the smartest thing Sony included in the machine.  Oh how I remember so many people swearing that would be the death of the PS3, and how huge of a mistake it was.


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I guess thats supposed to be some sort of hilarious comparison quoting, right? 

Well, that first quote was said in response to DCharlie, and his rambling ranting like a raving lunatic about Sony fanboys who apparantly said all sorts of things about E3 05' and he recalled these quotes like his mother said them on her deathbed.  Of course my reply makes more sense in that context, but it wouldn't fit your attempts at somehow making a point if you make that clear.


Of course the second quote was just a general observation made in relation to this thread.  But again, for the purposes of desperate attempts at trying to make me stop pointing out the fanboys of this board, I guess it's supposed to also fit a template you were looking for. 

Weaksauce.  Try harder.

In other words I'm not wasting anymore of my time replying to Xbots who have no point in this thread other than to waste my time, as their time is so worthless they get off on this shit.  Maf only created this freaking thread in response to my honest impressions of the 360/PS3 versions of Burnout Paradise.  Apparently he felt threatened by them or something.  ::)
« Last Edit: January 31, 2008, 12:02:22 AM by Tigerriot »

Barry Egan

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Re: Lets review PS3
« Reply #116 on: January 31, 2008, 12:00:29 AM »
Do you really take this stuff that seriously?  That personally?

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Re: Lets review PS3
« Reply #117 on: January 31, 2008, 12:04:26 AM »
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Re: Lets review PS3
« Reply #118 on: January 31, 2008, 12:13:35 AM »
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Re: Lets review PS3
« Reply #119 on: January 31, 2008, 12:15:15 AM »
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