Author Topic: Bebpo gives the skinny on DMC4. DMC fanboys, bad news (Read 17652 times)

Himu · « **on:** February 01, 2008, 08:02:47 PM »

here's hoping bebpo does his usual flip flop or we're doomed

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man, wtf did they do to the upgrading system in DMC4 >_< Fuck I have a feeling this is DMC2-2. they artificially made it longer/harder because they took out orb mining. red orbs aren't used for upgrades, some random shit you get when you finish a level is used. so since you can't get any of that stuff during the actual levels you can't upgrade mid-mission. which sucks.

also all of Nero's upgrades that you can buy at the start are really zzz. like "streak lvl.2/3" "arm range extender lvl.2/3" "pistol charge lvl.2/3". hardly any new moves, just longer reach/more damage. hopefully when you play as Dante it'll be way better cause Nero seems totally lacking in movelist. they try to make up for it by letting you "unlearn" moves at anytime and put the new orbs back into the new orb pool so when you are at a mid-mission upgrade point you can unlearn shit to learn new stuff. but that's stupid. the whole fun in DMC is upgrading every time you find an upgrade point with the orbs you've gotten.

lolz, you can carry 30 vital star S, 30 M, 30 L and 3 yellow orbs. they've mainstreamed this game so much it's distinguished mentally-challenged. it's like DMC for people who don't know how to play videogames and have never played a DMC before.

the cutscenes suck too, because they didn't get the DMC3 cutscene guy back again, and now there are TWO HOURS OF THEM

Uhhhhh....

yeah right it's gonna rock Bebpo. It's gonna rock. It's gonna rock...

Nero always looks like DMC for nubs anyways because his long ass arm. I'm going to break my NO RENTING GAMES rule and just rent the game at release. I can't not play this while all the other people play it before me.

Vizzys · « **Reply #1 on:** February 01, 2008, 08:05:09 PM »

Im buyin it, pirate

demi · « **Reply #2 on:** February 01, 2008, 08:07:48 PM »

I'm buying it day one, who cares

Himu · « **Reply #3 on:** February 01, 2008, 08:08:22 PM »

My money went to Lost Odyssey for this month. I was going to get Devil May Cry 4 next month but I can't wait that long.

Robo · « **Reply #4 on:** February 01, 2008, 08:09:22 PM »

The cutscenes in the demo were jawesome. I don't believe this news.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #5 on:** February 01, 2008, 08:16:51 PM »

I, for reasons unrelated to Bebpo, believe this news.

DEVIL MAY CRY 2-2

Himu · « **Reply #6 on:** February 01, 2008, 08:23:06 PM »

The fact that reviewers are liking DMC4 while saying DMC3 was too hard, when that game was mostly piss easy even on normal and hard modes, is really starting to worry me.

Can you do the hardest game modes right off the bat?

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #7 on:** February 01, 2008, 08:27:23 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on February 01, 2008, 08:21:59 PM

:'(

I'll still buy both versions of this and Lost Odyssey. Go jobs.

*high five*

Being rich means never having to say you're sorry!

Still, uh...I've heard buzzings.

It's possible that it's balanced to be piss-easy at first and there's a secret Actually DMC difficulty

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #8 on:** February 01, 2008, 08:27:31 PM »

Who's Bebpo?

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #9 on:** February 01, 2008, 08:48:07 PM »

being a True Industry Insider means you don't publicly slag a product until it's actually on store shelves!

*high five*

Robo · « **Reply #10 on:** February 01, 2008, 09:01:11 PM »

wtf guys

Himu · « **Reply #11 on:** February 01, 2008, 09:19:32 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on February 01, 2008, 08:56:44 PM

1up called the difficulty "well balanced."

yeah we all know 1up HATES hard games

drohne · « **Reply #12 on:** February 01, 2008, 10:37:16 PM »

that you can carry a million recovery items is irrelevant -- recovery items are for pussies, and using them drops your rank. red orb farming is likewise for pussies. I STILL BLIEVE

the reports of extreme backtracking and recyling are troubling, though. sounds like capcom got a bit lazy with this one. WAIT FOR DMC5

edit: and judging by the demo, i really like nero's arm and rev mechanic

CurseoftheGods · « **Reply #13 on:** February 01, 2008, 10:45:31 PM »

So even numbered DMC games suck ass?

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #14 on:** February 01, 2008, 10:47:03 PM »

No buy

I hope Tigerriot doesn't flip out on me again

drohne · « **Reply #15 on:** February 01, 2008, 10:49:14 PM »

i'll flip out on you. dmc is inherently better than burnout or turok or nmh whatever doodoo is coming out around now. buy it or forever cede any claim to taste

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #16 on:** February 01, 2008, 10:57:47 PM »

I have 1 and 3 and never felt compelled to finish them.

drohne · « **Reply #17 on:** February 01, 2008, 10:58:57 PM »

so you mean to say that you've already ceded any claim to taste

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #18 on:** February 01, 2008, 11:02:21 PM »

I guess

I liked the demo, I thought about buying it, but I know it'll wind up in the backlog. And if it's got repeating areas and backtracking then I'll just pass.

I'll probably wind up owning it someday anyway

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #19 on:** February 01, 2008, 11:05:09 PM »

DMC 1-3 were just games that managed to be on the right console at the right time.

CurseoftheGods · « **Reply #20 on:** February 01, 2008, 11:17:09 PM »

Review:

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3165793

MCD · « **Reply #21 on:** February 01, 2008, 11:52:58 PM »

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carry a million recovery items is irrelevant -- recovery items are for pussies, and using them drops your rank.

true.

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red orb farming is likewise for pussies

i dunno, it would suck going to the boss with little weapon upgrades or upgrading the wrong weapon.

y2kev · « **Reply #22 on:** February 02, 2008, 12:01:19 AM »

DMC1 - amazing

And it's not even that hard like DMC3. I played it last month. Definitely play that one.

Sounds like Capcom had to come up with more content despite realizing the game might bomba bomba.

But 200k sales in Japan is definitely encouraging.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #23 on:** February 02, 2008, 12:03:59 AM »

I got much further in DMC1, I just got distracted by another game at some point and that was that.

I didn't finish GOW or NG either, I don't think the genre is really meant for me.

y2kev · « **Reply #24 on:** February 02, 2008, 12:06:27 AM »

I have a ton of trouble finishing NG because it's really long. Like, I was surprised at how long it was. And NGSigma was even longer.

MCD · « **Reply #25 on:** February 02, 2008, 12:30:23 AM »

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lolz, you can carry 30 vital star S, 30 M, 30 L and 3 yellow orbs.

Question: is that on all difficulties?

Himu · « **Reply #26 on:** February 02, 2008, 01:05:31 AM »

Quote from: y2kev on February 02, 2008, 12:01:19 AM

DMC1 - amazing

And it's not even that hard like DMC3. I played it last month. Definitely play that one.

Sounds like Capcom had to come up with more content despite realizing the game might bomba bomba.

But 200k sales in Japan is definitely encouraging.

DMC1 is MUCH harder than DMC3.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #27 on:** February 02, 2008, 02:35:55 AM »

dmc1 sucks

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #28 on:** February 02, 2008, 02:39:21 AM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on February 02, 2008, 02:35:55 AM

dmc1 sucks

What about DMC3?

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #29 on:** February 02, 2008, 02:44:53 AM »

dmc3 is awesome

tiesto · « **Reply #30 on:** February 02, 2008, 02:58:58 AM »

I liked the demo fair enough, like drohne said, using the arm to pick up and spin enemies around was cool... I dig the grappling hook, too. But I haven't even gotten around to playing 3 yet... so I'll hold off for a bit.

Cohen: Why both versions? Is there content exclusive to each version or is it the collector bug?

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #31 on:** February 02, 2008, 03:48:45 AM »

I just bought it. drohne is too scary for me to post anything else tho

The Sceneman · « **Reply #32 on:** February 02, 2008, 04:49:06 AM »

bah its some gaffot

DMC4 will still be a SLAM DUNK

TVC15 · « **Reply #33 on:** February 02, 2008, 06:45:51 AM »

I'm going to buy it, but this is what I had suspected.

1) Capcom invested a lot of money in this game, and they took their time developing it. What with rising development costs, they NEEDED it to be more accessible than the previous entries, because. . .

2) The series has been in a downward spiral. First game sold over 4 million, the second sold 1.6, and the third one sold 1.3. Capcom wants to make the game more approachable than ever in the hopes that word of mouth will bring back some of the people turned off by the difficulty (or alternately, shittiness) of the previous games.

I am basically considering this game Devil May Cry 4: Devil May Sell Out, based on word of mouth and the demo.

Fortunately, I'm not going to complain, really. I have less time to dedicate to games, but I like finishing them.

y2kev · « **Reply #34 on:** February 02, 2008, 11:53:11 AM »

OMG I popped in DMC3 again last night.

OMG game is SO GOOD OMG

I was on a roll with SSing combos (like that's pretty good for me, lol) and I walked right through Cerberus. OMG DMC OMG

Himu · « **Reply #35 on:** February 02, 2008, 05:50:55 PM »

so i found out you play as dante for only 5 missions

this is awful news

glad i'm not buying it on day one. no dante full game no sale. sorry capcom.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #36 on:** February 02, 2008, 06:05:57 PM »

My copy shipped out on Friday, should be here Monday or Tuesday!

Mupepe · « **Reply #37 on:** February 02, 2008, 07:42:31 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on February 02, 2008, 05:50:55 PM

so i found out you play as dante for only 5 missions

this is awful news

glad i'm not buying it on day one. no dante full game no sale. sorry capcom.

you should have already known that! You're simply trying to find excuses NOT to buy it and to be a dirty poor. Go justify your piracy or something. Because you failed at this

demi · « **Reply #38 on:** February 02, 2008, 07:48:52 PM »

dirty poor dirty poor

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #39 on:** February 02, 2008, 08:03:27 PM »

Yay for clean richies!

Nay for dirty poors.

drohne · « **Reply #40 on:** February 02, 2008, 09:00:11 PM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on February 02, 2008, 03:48:45 AM

I just bought it. drohne is too scary for me to post anything else tho

i'm just messing around in here, and anyway i'm not that confident that dmc4 will be as good as dmc3. i'd like to hear what you think

Himu · « **Reply #41 on:** February 02, 2008, 09:39:32 PM »

Quote from: Mupepe on February 02, 2008, 07:42:31 PM

Quote from: Himuro on February 02, 2008, 05:50:55 PM
so i found out you play as dante for only 5 missions

this is awful news

glad i'm not buying it on day one. no dante full game no sale. sorry capcom.
you should have already known that! You're simply trying to find excuses NOT to buy it and to be a dirty poor. Go justify your piracy or something. Because you failed at this

No. In DMC2 you got to play as Dante OR what's her face and you had FULL GAME. In DMC4 you only play as Dante for 5 MISSIONS. That is UNCALLED for.

drew · « **Reply #42 on:** February 02, 2008, 09:43:57 PM »

After you beat the game can't you go back and play through the whole thing as Dante?

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #43 on:** February 02, 2008, 09:45:27 PM »

Quote from: Drewsy on February 02, 2008, 09:43:57 PM

After you beat the game can't you go back and play through the whole thing as Dante?

According to people who've played through it over on GAF, nope.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #44 on:** February 02, 2008, 09:48:50 PM »

I can't even tell the difference between Nero and Dante, who cares.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #45 on:** February 02, 2008, 09:49:50 PM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on February 02, 2008, 09:48:50 PM

I can't even tell the difference between Nero and Dante, who cares.

Yeah, that pretty much sums up my feelings on the whole thing.

Himu · « **Reply #46 on:** February 02, 2008, 09:52:49 PM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on February 02, 2008, 09:48:50 PM

I can't even tell the difference between Nero and Dante, who cares.

Are you serious.

Himu · « **Reply #47 on:** February 02, 2008, 09:56:33 PM »

Nero has the same weapons and the same moves most of the according to bebpo! That's boring!

drew · « **Reply #48 on:** February 02, 2008, 09:58:26 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on February 02, 2008, 09:56:33 PM

Nero has the same weapons and the same moves most of the according to bebpo! That's boring!

What?

You've got to be kidding me. I thought Dante and Nero had their own weapon sets and combos?

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #49 on:** February 02, 2008, 09:58:45 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on February 02, 2008, 09:54:12 PM

Who gives a fuck what charcter you're playing if the gameplay is there.

Yup, they both look the same anyway.

Btw, since you've got such deep pockets, can you sell me for $5 whatever version you deem to have worse controls?

Himu · « **Reply #50 on:** February 02, 2008, 09:59:13 PM »

No. Nero can't change styles either!

Bububub Nero and Dante are the same!!!

What the hell are you guys talking about?

drew · « **Reply #51 on:** February 02, 2008, 10:05:11 PM »

It would make sense for Nero not to change styles. You can't have gunslinger if he's only got one gun.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #52 on:** February 02, 2008, 10:12:10 PM »

stop fucking whining Himuro

have you even played the fucking demo? Nero is cool, hes got a super slam dunk grip and shit

stop slamming this game for a stupid animu fan wank reason, go jerk it to DMC3 cut scenes on youtube if you love Dante so much

Mupepe · « **Reply #53 on:** February 02, 2008, 10:17:04 PM »

too much wah in this thread.

Himuro: If Nero and Dante are the same, that should solve your issue of wanting to play as Dante the whole game, right?? Otherwise, you're not bitching for gameplay reasons, but for petty aesthetic reasons. Make up your mind.

Besides, Nero is the new hotness

Himu · « **Reply #54 on:** February 02, 2008, 10:17:34 PM »

I don't really care about it for story reasons.

that said, the spoilers are lmao

Quote from: Mupepe on February 02, 2008, 10:17:04 PM

Himuro: If Nero and Dante are the same, that should solve your issue of wanting to play as Dante the whole game, right?? Otherwise, you're not bitching for gameplay reasons, but for petty aesthetic reasons. Make up your mind.

Dante and Nero don't exactly play the same from reports I've heard! Which is my beef!

Mupepe · « **Reply #55 on:** February 02, 2008, 10:18:43 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on February 02, 2008, 10:17:34 PM

I don't really care about it for story reasons.

that said, the spoilers are lmao

so then why do you care about it? i'm confused. just pirate the game and get it over with

demi · « **Reply #56 on:** February 02, 2008, 10:19:55 PM »

himuro doesnt even have an xbox.

Himu · « **Reply #57 on:** February 02, 2008, 10:25:28 PM »

What is demi talking about?

Quote from: Mupepe on February 02, 2008, 10:18:43 PM

Quote from: Himuro on February 02, 2008, 10:17:34 PM
I don't really care about it for story reasons.

that said, the spoilers are lmao
so then why do you care about it? i'm confused. just pirate the game and get it over with

Gameplay reasons!

Mupepe · « **Reply #58 on:** February 02, 2008, 10:31:29 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on February 02, 2008, 10:25:28 PM

What is demi talking about?

Quote from: Mupepe on February 02, 2008, 10:18:43 PM
Quote from: Himuro on February 02, 2008, 10:17:34 PM
I don't really care about it for story reasons.

that said, the spoilers are lmao
so then why do you care about it? i'm confused. just pirate the game and get it over with

Gameplay reasons!

Then explain. You said Nero and Dante are the same pretty much right? So... What's the issue? I thought you wanted to play as Dante the whole time. Problem solved since there's not an effin difference.

y2kev · « **Reply #59 on:** February 02, 2008, 10:36:01 PM »

Dante and Nero don't play alike, which is where the complaints are coming from.

Nero's core gameplay is the Just EX revving and the devil bringer. Apparently there is little in the way of other moves and weapons.

Dante is Dante from DMC3 with even more hardcore stuff.

Personally I like how Nero plays-- reminds me of DMC1.

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Author Topic: Bebpo gives the skinny on DMC4. DMC fanboys, bad news (Read 17652 times)