Who the hell are Marty Chinn and Nostromo?

[Smooth Groove]

Why are these two no name developers the definitive authorities on technical topics at GAF? 

[demi]

Marty is a developer at some company... Blue Shift Games? I think Nostromo was the Ninja Theory guy?

[MCD]

Marty is a developer at some company... Blue Shift Games? I think Nostromo was the Ninja Theory guy?

Correct though he no longer works there iirc.

[calcifer]

why dont you ask on gaf, taco

[Smooth Groove]

Why don't you come up with some new material, dullard?

[Oblivion]

As long as we're on the subject, where does that Falafel guy work?

[The Fake Shemp]

Bill O'Reilly

[Shuri]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=2

[Smooth Groove]

Nostromo is the "PGR4 looks terrible.... when you code shaders like me" guy.
I hear that comment touched a few nerves.

I thought he was still at NT though, i thought it was the other guy whose name i forget who had left?

Dcharlie, you have some friends among the dev community, right?  Is there any truth to what Chinn said about how having the PS3 as a lead platform would benefit the 360 also?  It just doesn't compute that 360 multiplatform games would be better off by having the PS3 as a lead platform.

Also, lol at Nostromo.  Maybe his company wouldn't be making 3rd party products if their programmers spend more time working, instead of being fanboys on messageboards. 

[calcifer]

Why don't you come up with some new material, dullard?

why dont you ask on gaf, dyke

[Smooth Groove]

Still boring. Try harder. 

[calcifer]

Still boring. Try harder. 

 

[pilonv1]

Nostromo is the "PGR4 looks terrible.... when you code shaders like me" guy.
I hear that comment touched a few nerves.

I'm not sure who banned him for that comment but I believe it was this site's namesake who unbanned him for some unknown reason. It was such a bullshit comment.

[drohne]

whoa -- you're Z3F on gaf, aren't you? or at least he's using your arguments

[Smooth Groove]

whoa -- you're Z3F on gaf, aren't you? or at least he's using your arguments

Nah, the other guy from teamxbox that they're killing.   

Honestly, I haven't made up my mind.  I just like to know from a different perspective.  It's hard to just accept what Chinn or Nostromo are saying when they're both at least somewhat biased towards Sony. 

Too bad Cohen isn't around.  I'll like him to shed some light on the subject. 

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

Nostromo is the "PGR4 looks terrible.... when you code shaders like me" guy.
I hear that comment touched a few nerves.

I'm not sure who banned him for that comment but I believe it was this site's namesake who unbanned him for some unknown reason. It was such a bullshit comment.

HE WAS UNBANNED BECAUSE OF THE EVIL OF GROUPTHINK

Thank god GAF doesn't have that problem anymore.

[Smooth Groove]

Nostromo is the "PGR4 looks terrible.... when you code shaders like me" guy.
I hear that comment touched a few nerves.

I'm not sure who banned him for that comment but I believe it was this site's namesake who unbanned him for some unknown reason. It was such a bullshit comment.

HE WAS UNBANNED BECAUSE OF THE EVIL OF GROUPTHINK

Thank god GAF doesn't have that problem anymore.

Is it just me or is it really scary how seriously those Sony fans are getting in that Lucararts thread?  The Sony army descended like rabid dogs on that dude from TeamXbox.  He doesn't make very strong arguments but at least he's being civil and not going crazy over people disagreeing with him. 

[Shuri]

in 2008, people don't argue about games and which console has the better lineup. They argue about which console  or gaming companies other posters like.

[MCD]

dude from teamxbox? who is that?

[Smooth Groove]

dude from teamxbox? who is that?

Mikewarrior?  Speevy mentioned something about banning him before.  That was pretty surprising.  I didn't even know that Speevy was a Teamxbox mod. 

in 2008, people don't argue about games and which console has the better lineup.

Actually, they do.  But only one game seems to matter, Uncharted.  It's pretty funny how yet another PS3/360 thread  has ended up with a bunch of Uncharted screenshots. 

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

dude from teamxbox? who is that?

Mikewarrior?  Speevy mentioned something about banning him before.  That was pretty surprising.  I didn't even know that Speevy was a Teamxbox mod. 

Speevy being a teamxbox mod was the primary reason the guy was hated so much around GAF, but now that he's worshiped at the alter of Phil Harrison and become born again, all previous transgressions have been forgiven. 

I myself was actually a teamxbox mod for a short period of time around the transition from msxbox to teamxbox, before the system (the original Xbox) was released.  It only lasted about 6 months or so before I called it quits.  I couldn't handle monitoring a bunch of one sided console BS and so I moved somewhere else....where there was even more BS.

[Smooth Groove]

dude from teamxbox? who is that?

Mikewarrior?  Speevy mentioned something about banning him before.  That was pretty surprising.  I didn't even know that Speevy was a Teamxbox mod. 

Speevy being a teamxbox mod was the primary reason the guy was hated so much around GAF, but now that he's worshiped at the alter of Phil Harrison and become born again, all previous transgressions have been forgiven. 

I myself was actually a teamxbox mod for a short period of time around the transition from msxbox to teamxbox, before the system was released.  It only lasted about 6 months or so before I called it quits.  I couldn't handle monitoring a bunch of one sided console BS and so I moved somewhere else....where there was even more BS.

Is he still a mod there?  Is your previous Teamxbox modship why you aren't very popular there either? 

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

dude from teamxbox? who is that?

Mikewarrior?  Speevy mentioned something about banning him before.  That was pretty surprising.  I didn't even know that Speevy was a Teamxbox mod. 

Speevy being a teamxbox mod was the primary reason the guy was hated so much around GAF, but now that he's worshiped at the alter of Phil Harrison and become born again, all previous transgressions have been forgiven. 

I myself was actually a teamxbox mod for a short period of time around the transition from msxbox to teamxbox, before the system was released.  It only lasted about 6 months or so before I called it quits.  I couldn't handle monitoring a bunch of one sided console BS and so I moved somewhere else....where there was even more BS.

Is he still a mod there?  Is your previous Teamxbox modship why you aren't very popular there either? 

I haven't been to teamxbox in years, so I have no idea what the hell is going on over there.  Don't really care to know either.  And I'd imagine the reason I'm not very popular over at TeamGAF is because I swear like a distinguished mentally-challenged monkey, can't spell worth a damn, and have no real desire for rational discussion with them anymore so my posts are rather short and I come off sounding rather dickish.  I'll just call 'em a bunch of fucking loons and be done with it.

[pilonv1]

HE WAS UNBANNED BECAUSE OF THE EVIL OF GROUPTHINK

Thank god GAF doesn't have that problem anymore.

That's right. That thread did a world of good.

in 2008, people don't argue about games and which console has the better lineup. They argue about which console  or gaming companies other posters like.

I thought they just argued sales figures and why Game X isn't on Console Y?

[Ichirou]

Marty Chinn was pretty cool during the Usenet days.

[Van Cruncheon]

Nostromo is the "PGR4 looks terrible.... when you code shaders like me" guy.
I hear that comment touched a few nerves.

I thought he was still at NT though, i thought it was the other guy whose name i forget who had left?

Dcharlie, you have some friends among the dev community, right?  Is there any truth to what Chinn said about how having the PS3 as a lead platform would benefit the 360 also?  It just doesn't compute that 360 multiplatform games would be better off by having the PS3 as a lead platform.

Also, lol at Nostromo.  Maybe his company wouldn't be making 3rd party products if their programmers spend more time working, instead of being fanboys on messageboards. 

actually, from a financial perspective, it makes the MOST sense not to develop for ps3 at all and throw those resources into the 360 version *up to a point*. that said, yeah, if you wanna maximize resources, it doesn't take much effort to make a 360 port look like a ps3 game, whereas it's apparently well-nigh on impossible to por a 360 game to the ps3 with the same fidelity.

rsx budget gpu

[MCD]

is it really due to the budget gpu or the cell?

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

Is it just me or is it really scary how seriously those Sony fans are getting in that Lucararts thread?  The Sony army descended like rabid dogs on that dude from TeamXbox.  He doesn't make very strong arguments but at least he's being civil and not going crazy over people disagreeing with him. 

I just looked at that thread.  The guy they're arguing with is an idiot and/or someone's joke account.  Did you see the screens he's posting?  Ridiculous.  I'm really leaning towards joke account otherwise he would've been banned a long time ago.

But yeah, the troops are out in full force.

[Smooth Groove]

Is it just me or is it really scary how seriously those Sony fans are getting in that Lucararts thread?  The Sony army descended like rabid dogs on that dude from TeamXbox.  He doesn't make very strong arguments but at least he's being civil and not going crazy over people disagreeing with him. 

I just looked at that thread.  The guy they're arguing with is an idiot and/or someone's joke account.  Did you see the screens he's posting?  Ridiculous.  I'm almost leaning towards joke account otherwise he would've been banned a long time ago.

But yeah, the troops are out in full force.

What screens did he post?  I lost interest once I saw a bunch of Uncharted screenshots.  Same shit as always. 

I wish there were some non-Sony affliated developers in that thread though.  It would be interesting to see if they agree with the theory that it's better for both platforms to have the PS3 as the lead. 

Marty Chinn was pretty cool during the Usenet days.

I heard a mention of him every now and then, but he was long gone by the time I was reading Usenet.  I had no idea he was a programmer.  You must have been on Usenet a long time ago if he was still around.  Were you in High School?  

[MCD]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9914499&postcount=821

[Ichirou]

Marty Chinn was pretty cool during the Usenet days.

I heard a mention of him every now and then, but he was long gone by the time I was reading Usenet.  I had no idea he was a programmer.  You must have been on Usenet a long time ago if he was still around.  Were you in High School?  

High school and the first few years of college.  This was back in the late nineties.

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9914499&postcount=821

The guy is either massively distinguished mentally-challenged or the GAF admin are having some fun.  Anyone check IRC?

[Smooth Groove]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9914499&postcount=821

The guy is either massively distinguished mentally-challenged or the GAF admin is having some fun.

yeah, that does more damage to the people that speak out against the Sony army.   

[MCD]

was anyone actually going to buy this game? i mean, nice physics but so what?

[Smooth Groove]

was anyone actually going to buy this game? i mean, nice physics but so what?

I thought it looked pretty cool actually.  It looked like Mass Effect without the framerate problems. 

: Developing PS3 and porting to X360 could indeed give you the best version on both platforms.
: Having PS3 as lead though can increase your need for tech expertise and staff costs
: Difficultly developing for PS3 is still there, your spending on tech difficult of the machine that is not your lead platform.
: It maybe that you go through the pain of setting up your PS3->X360 system once, I'd assume that a lot of lessons were learnt from this development.
: Software sales will probably decide if the pain is worth it or not.

Sounds like every developer should just follow Drinky's suggestions.  

Also, I wonder if devs who just do upgrades of their engines, like the Madden team or the Graw team will go with this new approach.   It sounds like everything has to be started over if PS3 becomes the lead.  And that doesn't seem to make sense for devs who already got their games running so smoothly on the 360.

Seriously, no wonder GAF has become an in joke with developers.

Yeah, it seems kinda weird that only devs who favor the PS3 post at GAF.  

[pilonv1]

From that LucasArts thread

[Smooth Groove]

Is Onix a developer too? 

[hyp]

that's marty   

http://www.1up.com/do/my1Up?publicUserId=5445182

[MCD]

is that itagaki junior?

[MCD]

i see no kabob in that picture.

[Smooth Groove]

(Image removed from quote.)

that's marty   

http://www.1up.com/do/my1Up?publicUserId=5445182

Dude was just as arrogant back then.   

Someone should post this in that thread. 


Now it all comes down to price, but I'm not too worried about that. I guarentee you it does not cost more than $400 when it's released. Too bad we won't get the official word until like one or two months beforehand but any speculation of higher than $400 is just insane and unreasonable. There's just no way it'll happen.

Again, it's amazing how people jump to speculation and run with wild rumors without even for a second question if it makes any sense. Sony isn't stupid and they aren't going to make these stupid mistakes that people seem to think they are. Sure they do make mistakes but come on lets use some common sense.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9921508&postcount=993

turns out the RSX really is a beast and it was that horrible MS's fault that we haven't seen the DX10 feature set used in Ps3 games because they wouldn't share their API. So a bunch have guys have rewritten OpenGL (But it's not done yet) and we'll see DX10 in games.

Death knell for Dx10, no one will develop for X360, PS3 2TFlop potential finally unlocked

hurrah!

WTF?  That has to be a joke post.  Did any of those complaining about non-developers talking tech stuff call him out?

[calcifer]

a thread with gaf rejects obsessing about the on goings on another forum here on evilbore? what is this new turn of events?!

[MrAngryFace]

Marty's ok but a little...a lot weird

[Ichirou]

a thread with gaf rejects obsessing about the on goings on another forum here on evilbore? what is this new turn of events?!

I KNOW, IT'S PRETTY CRAZY

Makes me want to do my...


BLLLLAAANKA FAAAACE

[Kyle]

holy shit 

[tiesto]

Is Onix a developer too? 

No, not a game developer. Onix actually works at the same company I do, different location though.

[Smooth Groove]

shit, i thought i posted the following :

"i don't know what is sadder - the fact someone feels the need to post this bullshit or the fact that the usual cocklords will swallow it hook, line and sinker"

which would have meant total vindication, because Clue-Lez has posted this :

Well, that's some very interesting info if everything materializes about Cell/RSX. I guess we'll have to wait and see. And the posts are well thought out, good first posts MoNaRky.

lol - Ps3 holding back due to MS API failings. Budget GPU really 8800GT Ultra class !
"I have made a nugget of purest green!"

I'll like to think that J-rzez was just being funny but knowing him probably not.  Did Chinn or Nostromo say anything about those crazy theories?  If not, it's a good indication of where their loyalties lie and they should just stay quiet next time the fanboys have their battles.  It just doesn't seem professional for multi-platform developers to be clearly taking one side over the other. 

Is Onix a developer too? 

No, not a game developer. Onix actually works at the same company I do, different location though.

What does he do?  He sounds like an expert in that thread.