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[Borys]

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[Vizzys]

thus the reason pc gaming is dying and piracy is 'increasing'

[Smooth Groove]

The sad thing is that pirates will probably crack both games.  An article mentioned that Splinter Cell:Chaos Theory is the only PC game of recent memory that took almost a year to crack.  

[MCD]

R.I.P PC

[BlueTsunami]

Will get cracked. Hackers will probably create something to block said broadcast or trick it.

[bork]

Publishers -> PC gamers <- Pirates

[The Fake Shemp]

Pre-order cancelled.`

[Howard Alan Treesong]

SPORE won't require online activation every 10 days - because I won't be buying it! HA

[demi]

It's ok guys, you can always play the console version every 10 days.

[Mondain]

micro management orgies where you click-click-click-click-click-click-click on a million different things to no end suck ass

[pilonv1]

: any appeal to casual gaming gone

im more incline to pirate a game with shitty security than one without any

[bork]

Fuck that noise. Surely the Mac version won't be subjected to this shit too.

Superior version confirmed!

[Joe Molotov]

Welp, looks like Spore won't be getting the 2011 GOTY after all.

[Raban]

Fuck PC gaming. Sorry Borys. I'll be back on your side when EP3 hits in 2015.

[Raban]

Fuck PC gaming. Sorry Borys. I'll be back on your side when EP3 hits in 2015.

:'(   :'(

Trust me, I still you, but we just need some time apart.

[bork]

Welp, looks like Spore won't be getting the 2011 GOTY after all.

The console versions will.  

[disgruntled_jojo]

/shrug

Assuming that the Securom has no conflict with my system, I won't care.  My machine is online 100% of the time.  I'll probably never notice it.  I agree with most people in theory that the world would be better without Securom, but the fact is that as long as I'm not one of the small minority where the copy protection keeps the game from running, I won't care.  And if you're a PC gamer with a gaming machine beefy enough to play Spore and/or Mass Effect and it's not connected to the internet, GTFO.

And the second half of my post:

This is the part of the thread where I remind all of you that dozens of your favorite PC games have copy protection. Diablo II, Diablo II expansion, Warcraft III, and Warcraft III expansion all have Securom on the disk.  All of Valves games since 2004 require Steam to play.  I realize that these don't automatically fail to run if your computer isn't connected to the internet, but my point is this: how many of you PC gamers let these copy protection mechanisms stop you from buying those games?!

[Raban]

What about when you've finished the game, and then years down the line wish to play it again, like many people do with older games? Whoops, you forgot to keep registering it. Fuck you.

The console versions will.

HA HA HA. OH WOW.

[Yeti]

Or what about if you move to a new place and it takes a couple weeks to get the internet up and running? 

[Mupepe]

What about when you've finished the game, and then years down the line wish to play it again, like many people do with older games? Whoops, you forgot to keep registering it. Fuck you.

The console versions will.

HA HA HA. OH WOW.

I'd imagine the system would stop caring after a certain amount of time.  Probably past the initial sale time when sales are so small.

Anyways, I see people's points about this, but I have no problem.  They take aggressive measures because they get FUCKED by people downloading these games. 

"this is what's killing pc gaming"

Give me a fucking break.  No it's not.  Thieves are killing pc gaming.  PC gaming started faultering long before practices like this came into place.

If there's one thing the internet has proven, it's that if people are able to get it for free (music, movies, games) easily, they definitely will.  If they released Spore with none of this shit, you guys REALLY think the masses would be like "oh my god, Spore doesn't require online activation every 10 days?  i'm totally getting that!"??  You can't be serious.

And like someone said earlier, most PC gamers are hardcore gamers with beefy machines that are ALWAYS connected to the net.  Of course there are going to be issues like internet being down, shit like that.  But for the majority, they're always on and you know it!

Quit being such babies.  I want to punch all those fucking people in the face in the GAF thread.

"-1 sale" "they just lost a sale" "i guess i'm cancelling my preorder"

bullshit.  if all those people had actually preordered or planned on ever buying it, PC gaming would not be in the state it's in.

and my favorite...

"I guess i'll just get it for free "

Don't be so self righteous.  You never fucking planned on buying it.  You're just justifying stealing it, you stupid fuck.  At least be honest.

[disgruntled_jojo]

What about when you've finished the game, and then years down the line wish to play it again, like many people do with older games? Whoops, you forgot to keep registering it. Fuck you.

The console versions will.

HA HA HA. OH WOW.

I'd imagine the system would stop caring after a certain amount of time.  Probably past the initial sale time when sales are so small.

Anyways, I see people's points about this, but I have no problem.  They take aggressive measures because they get FUCKED by people downloading these games. 

"this is what's killing pc gaming"

Give me a fucking break.  No it's not.  Thieves are killing pc gaming.  PC gaming started faultering long before practices like this came into place.

If there's one thing the internet has proven, it's that if people are able to get it for free (music, movies, games) easily, they definitely will.  If they released Spore with none of this shit, you guys REALLY think the masses would be like "oh my god, Spore doesn't require online activation every 10 days?  i'm totally getting that!"??  You can't be serious.

And like someone said earlier, most PC gamers are hardcore gamers with beefy machines that are ALWAYS connected to the net.  Of course there are going to be issues like internet being down, shit like that.  But for the majority, they're always on and you know it!

Quit being such babies.  I want to punch all those fucking people in the face in the GAF thread.

"-1 sale" "they just lost a sale" "i guess i'm cancelling my preorder"

bullshit.  if all those people had actually preordered or planned on ever buying it, PC gaming would not be in the state it's in.

and my favorite...

"I guess i'll just get it for free "

Don't be so self righteous.  You never fucking planned on buying it.  You're just justifying stealing it, you stupid fuck.  At least be honest.

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[The Fake Shemp]

I cancelled my Spore pre-oder and put it towards Ninja Gaiden II

[Eel O'Brian]

is there going to be a psp version

[Smooth Groove]

and my favorite...

"I guess i'll just get it for free "

Don't be so self righteous.  You never fucking planned on buying it.  You're just justifying stealing it, you stupid fuck.  At least be honest.

You just called TVC a stupid fuck? 

[Mupepe]

if that's what he said, I am!

[Smooth Groove]

TVC does have the biggest Steam collection I've seen.  If he won't buy a Securom game, it probably does bother him that much.   

[Eel O'Brian]

what if the pirate discovers a cure for cancer and offers it free to the world

would that restore the pirate's karmic balance, borys

[CurseoftheGods]

Bullshit.

[demi]

It's ok Borys, I won't pirate the PC version... I'll get the DS version instead

[Smooth Groove]

I'm ok with that.  Unlike PC, DS doesn't need the support. 

[MoxManiac]

The online activation doesn't bother me as I tend to panic like a little girl when my internet goes out anyways - it's the limited number of installs that bug me.

[TVC15]

TVC does have the biggest Steam collection I've seen.  If he won't buy a Securom game, it probably does bother him that much.   

~120 games.  I've already paid for Mass Effect once.  I'll probably still buy Spore, but only after waiting for it to be cracked.  I've been waiting for it long enough that it is difficult to forget about.  The Mass Effect thing hurts though.  One game in and EA has already ruined Bioware on PC.

Wow, looking at the numbers, I own 1/5th of everything on Steam.

[Mupepe]

TVC does have the biggest Steam collection I've seen.  If he won't buy a Securom game, it probably does bother him that much.   

~120 games.  I've already paid for Mass Effect once.  I'll probably still buy Spore, but only after waiting for it to be cracked.  I've been waiting for it long enough that it is difficult to forget about.  The Mass Effect thing hurts though.  One game in and EA has already ruined Bioware on PC.

Wow, looking at the numbers, I own 1/5th of everything on Steam.

That's because you fucking rock. 

I think it will be cracked quick as fuck anyways.  So why not? 

[TVC15]

TVC does have the biggest Steam collection I've seen.  If he won't buy a Securom game, it probably does bother him that much.   

~120 games.  I've already paid for Mass Effect once.  I'll probably still buy Spore, but only after waiting for it to be cracked.  I've been waiting for it long enough that it is difficult to forget about.  The Mass Effect thing hurts though.  One game in and EA has already ruined Bioware on PC.

Wow, looking at the numbers, I own 1/5th of everything on Steam.

That's because you fucking rock. 

I think it will be cracked quick as fuck anyways.  So why not? 

I still don't like voting for that sort of garbage with my dollars.  Maybe if EA sided with someone with competent direct download, like d2d or Steam or Stardock, but we know that won't happen.

[Mupepe]

EA won't do that.  They'll just try to enhance their shitty service at some point which also rapes people.  I don't the practice either, but I'm not going to turn to stealing it.  How the hell is that justification?  And I'm just not one of those people who gets melodramatic about this being the cause of PC gamings current status. 

[demi]

EA won't do that.  They'll just try to enhance their shitty service at some point which also rapes people.  I don't the practice either, but I'm not going to turn to stealing it.  How the hell is that justification?  And I'm just not one of those people who gets melodramatic about this being the cause of PC gamings current status. 

Vote with your wallet, Mupepe. Don't be a cog in the wheel.

[TVC15]

EA won't do that.  They'll just try to enhance their shitty service at some point which also rapes people.  I don't the practice either, but I'm not going to turn to stealing it.  How the hell is that justification?  And I'm just not one of those people who gets melodramatic about this being the cause of PC gamings current status. 

I dunno, I just find the copy protection pointless, and kinda ironic.  It's not going to do anything to stop pirates--it will be just as pirated as if it shipped with standard "DVD must be in the drive, here's a game key" copy protection.  And in the end, whether this measure is a "success" or not, EA will still blame the definitely low PC sales on piracy.  It's more funny than anything.

There's really no reason the Stardock model can't be adopted by them.  Do they not realize they are fighting a war that they can't win?  I don't want shit "calling home" on my PC unless I know it is, and I know it has a good reason.  Bioshock used this shit, and my personal issues were:

1) The game wouldn't register or whatever on the first night (probably due to authentication server congestion).
2) One of my malware detectors tried to remove/fix the protection and made it so the game would no longer launch.  I promptly uninstalled the game and never touched it again.

If I would have waited a week or so for a crack (though I believe episode 2 happened like a month afterwards), or PIRATED THE GAME, I wouldn't have had those issues at all.  Welcome to the customer being treated like a criminal!

That said, I do see something like this having more of a place on Spore, since it does have some sort of online component.