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« Reply #120 on: June 09, 2008, 11:42:48 AM »
Just got to the "bank vault" mission with Packie...ugh.

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« Reply #121 on: June 09, 2008, 03:48:47 PM »
lmao gta4 fanboys getting desperate :rofl

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« Reply #122 on: June 09, 2008, 03:56:26 PM »
"Overused physics engine."

Then shows Niko crashing his bike and flying off about ten times, as if they're all new. :rofl
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« Reply #123 on: June 09, 2008, 04:02:25 PM »
That's all they have? GTA fans are tardos
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« Reply #124 on: June 09, 2008, 04:10:37 PM »
Wow, that video was pathetic. :lol

"ZOMG Niko can fly off his motorcyle!! RAD!!"
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« Reply #125 on: June 09, 2008, 04:13:26 PM »
"You can do all this crazy shit in GTA4! Look at these cutscenes which prove it!"
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« Reply #126 on: June 09, 2008, 04:17:34 PM »
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"Overused old physics"

Then goes on to show the same animation of Niko crashing a motorcycle five times.

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It's still the SAME THING being done over and over.

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« Reply #127 on: June 09, 2008, 04:18:16 PM »
"You can do all this crazy shit in GTA4! Look at these cutscenes which prove it!"

how many times did we get get to hang from helicopters and trucks in GTAIV? :rofl
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« Reply #128 on: June 09, 2008, 04:18:32 PM »
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It's still the SAME THING being done over and over.

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Teaching that motherfucker a lesson. He thinks his GTA4ggotry is funny. :punch
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« Reply #129 on: June 09, 2008, 04:20:41 PM »
the REAL gta fans know that the series has lost its crown and aren't going to dispute anything

smh gta4 fanboys smh
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« Reply #130 on: June 09, 2008, 04:21:58 PM »
what about you, himuro? you were championing this game like it was end all be all :rofl
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« Reply #131 on: June 09, 2008, 04:25:25 PM »
well how would i know that rockstar would downgrade the game instead of actually evolving it? how many developers do you know downgrade their games? Bad judgment on my part! :rofl
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« Reply #132 on: June 09, 2008, 04:37:24 PM »


Someone make the image on the left Himuro's avatar
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« Reply #133 on: June 09, 2008, 04:37:49 PM »
well how would i know that rockstar would downgrade the game instead of actually evolving it? how many developers do you know downgrade their games? Bad judgment on my part! :rofl

Team Ninja for one :rofl
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« Reply #134 on: June 09, 2008, 04:39:34 PM »
but it's still the same ninja gaiden! :rofl
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« Reply #135 on: June 09, 2008, 04:41:20 PM »
exactly
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« Reply #136 on: June 09, 2008, 04:42:59 PM »
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Someone make the image on the left Himuro's avatar
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« Reply #137 on: June 09, 2008, 04:43:46 PM »
ICY HAWT STUNNAZ AND GRILLZ
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« Reply #138 on: June 09, 2008, 05:02:22 PM »
GTA Warriorz are sadder than Sfags/Xfags/Ntards

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« Reply #139 on: June 09, 2008, 06:50:40 PM »
I'm gonna eat a boat load of crow given how much I defended the game here in the first week or two.


but like all other GTAs, I just plain stopped feeling like playing it because it got boring and repetitive. I stand by the driving controls not being that bad though :)

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« Reply #140 on: June 09, 2008, 07:07:20 PM »
I'm gonna eat a boat load of crow given how much I defended the game here in the first week or two.


but like all other GTAs, I just plain stopped feeling like playing it because it got boring and repetitive. I stand by the driving controls not being that bad though :)

I've never gotten tired of playing GTA. I've never yawned playing III, VC, or SA yet IV struggled to keep my interested around hour 50.
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« Reply #141 on: June 09, 2008, 07:14:54 PM »
You're seriously complaining about a game that kept you interested for nearly 50 hours?
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« Reply #142 on: June 09, 2008, 07:34:57 PM »
I'm gonna eat a boat load of crow given how much I defended the game here in the first week or two.


but like all other GTAs, I just plain stopped feeling like playing it because it got boring and repetitive. I stand by the driving controls not being that bad though :)

I've never gotten tired of playing GTA. I've never yawned playing III, VC, or SA yet IV struggled to keep my interested around hour 50.

I put hundreds of hours into GTAIII, VC, and SA, but stopped after beating the single player missions in GTAIV at hour 25.
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« Reply #143 on: June 09, 2008, 07:57:36 PM »
You're seriously complaining about a game that kept you interested for nearly 50 hours?

what is wrong with that. most of that time was spent looking for things to do :lol
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Re: Man GTA4 is fucking awful
« Reply #144 on: June 09, 2008, 07:59:01 PM »
I think the GTA4 hate pendulum has swung too far to one side.  IMO the game definitely has issues and isn't anywhere near as good as GTASA was but I had a decent enough time with it.  Definitely not deserving of all the hate....or at least this much hate.

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« Reply #145 on: June 09, 2008, 08:34:52 PM »
I think the GTA4 hate pendulum has swung too far to one side.  IMO the game definitely has issues and isn't anywhere near as good as GTASA was but I had a decent enough time with it.  Definitely not deserving of all the hate....or at least this much hate.

If it was an original game released by a company that no one had ever heard of before, no it wouldn't get this much hate. But it's hard to disassociate one's self from the massive amount of hype and hyperbole that's been spewed about this game coupled with [mostly realistic] expectations that were far from being met.

On a side note, I find it funny, and a bit sad, that the best those guys could come up with for their pro-GTAIV video was the fact that GTA has a new city and realistic physics. With a few tweaks it could easily be an anti-GTAIV video.
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« Reply #146 on: June 09, 2008, 08:55:33 PM »
gta4 is the new fable. promising lots of content and under delivering. Remember when they said you'd be able to go through someone's house out the back, and climb fire escapes? lol or how about when they made a big dea about being able to climb telephone poles. LOL not in the game.
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« Reply #147 on: June 09, 2008, 08:56:18 PM »
Now we know what the DLC will be! :D
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« Reply #148 on: June 09, 2008, 09:35:16 PM »
well how would i know that rockstar would downgrade the game instead of actually evolving it? how many developers do you know downgrade their games? Bad judgment on my part! :rofl

Team Ninja for one :rofl


the difference is that with GTAIV it quickly became obvious that it's worse to everyone, whereas the people saying NGII is a downgrade are casuals and people who can't appreciate subtle changes :rofl

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« Reply #149 on: June 10, 2008, 02:52:21 AM »
I'm posolutely, very absitively on the side of GTA IV. I think it's fantastic.

It's inconsistently executed, but not nearly as inconsistent as San Andreas was. It's also trying to do something new and different, in that it's staying character-focused... including limiting the activities to things that the character might do, instead of delivering noodles or shuttling people around in an ambulance or bus driving.

I'm finally getting to the point where I am enjoying the game they made, rather than trying to play the game I was expecting to get.

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« Reply #150 on: June 10, 2008, 02:52:56 AM »
I called all this shit way early fuk off
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« Reply #151 on: June 10, 2008, 02:53:33 AM »
well how would i know that rockstar would downgrade the game instead of actually evolving it? how many developers do you know downgrade their games? Bad judgment on my part! :rofl

Team Ninja for one :rofl


the difference is that with GTAIV it quickly became obvious that it's worse to everyone, whereas the people saying NGII is a downgrade are casuals and people who can't appreciate subtle changes :rofl

you mean the subtle change of SLOWDOWN
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« Reply #152 on: June 10, 2008, 02:53:40 AM »
watch a fuckin' scorsese movie if you want character

me, i want to run old ladies over with my firetruck
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« Reply #153 on: June 10, 2008, 03:43:17 AM »
watch a fuckin' scorsese movie if you want character

me, i want to run old ladies over with my firetruck

You know, I also know where to find porn on the internets, but it doesn't mean I wasn't happy when Kratos climbed out of bed from the three-way in GoW1.

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« Reply #154 on: June 10, 2008, 03:43:51 AM »

Cause you mad homo, son
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« Reply #155 on: June 10, 2008, 04:10:06 AM »
I'm posolutely, very absitively on the side of GTA IV. I think it's fantastic.

It's inconsistently executed, but not nearly as inconsistent as San Andreas was. It's also trying to do something new and different, in that it's staying character-focused... including limiting the activities to things that the character might do, instead of delivering noodles or shuttling people around in an ambulance or bus driving.

I'm finally getting to the point where I am enjoying the game they made, rather than trying to play the game I was expecting to get.

so basically you concede that rockstar should have killed off features in favor for actually being creative and making new ones. Right. And the result is the most boring sandbox game ever.
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« Reply #156 on: June 10, 2008, 10:05:58 AM »
I'm posolutely, very absitively on the side of GTA IV. I think it's fantastic.

It's inconsistently executed, but not nearly as inconsistent as San Andreas was. It's also trying to do something new and different, in that it's staying character-focused... including limiting the activities to things that the character might do, instead of delivering noodles or shuttling people around in an ambulance or bus driving.

I'm finally getting to the point where I am enjoying the game they made, rather than trying to play the game I was expecting to get.

so basically you concede that rockstar should have killed off features in favor for actually being creative and making new ones. Right. And the result is the most boring sandbox game ever.

You are forgetting that only Synthesizer Patel is capable of executing sarcasm in text. Please include rolleyes or something to give me a heads-up next time, because I live in a country which has stripmined its irony content, and I'm not prepared for it in normal speech, let alone trying to parse it from text.

What I concede is that GTA IV is not GTA III, Vice City, or San Andreas; I think Rockstar was trying to make a game in which every choice the player is given is in the context of "What would Niko do?" This means no go-cart racing on city streets, but there is an urban racer circuit. This means instead of having special powered cars which start missions, imbuing the environment and vehicles with the "special-ness"</david_byrne>, Niko accesses them through his Friends by communicating like we do, through a cellphone; in doing so, the power is transferred from the landscape to his interpersonal relationship with his new contacts in his new home.

And to as large a degree as possible, they've tried to trim the bonuses and enhancements back, I'm guessing because most people (myself included) played the SHIT out of the R3 missions and hidden packages in an attempt to buff up their character for the story missions, making the story missions way too easy for their buffed characters, but meanwhile casual gamers were unable to finish the game because the missions were already pretty challenging, but when faced with trying to complete with a non-buffed character, they were unable to do so. This is, of course, wildly irresponsible speculation -- but there it is.

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« Reply #157 on: June 10, 2008, 10:16:11 AM »
I'm posolutely, very absitively on the side of GTA IV. I think it's fantastic.

It's inconsistently executed, but not nearly as inconsistent as San Andreas was. It's also trying to do something new and different, in that it's staying character-focused... including limiting the activities to things that the character might do, instead of delivering noodles or shuttling people around in an ambulance or bus driving.

I'm finally getting to the point where I am enjoying the game they made, rather than trying to play the game I was expecting to get.

Yea, why would a freshly arrived immigrant do something like deliver food.

Let's make him realistically rob a fucking bank and mow down 40 cops and make $250,000, then still talk on the phone with his cousin (who he hasn't seen in the last 8 hours of gameplay) about how they're so poor because of his gambling and they are barely scraping by.

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« Reply #158 on: June 10, 2008, 11:54:59 AM »
What I concede is that GTA IV is not GTA III, Vice City, or San Andreas; I think Rockstar was trying to make a game in which every choice the player is given is in the context of "What would Niko do?" This means no go-cart racing on city streets, but there is an urban racer circuit. This means instead of having special powered cars which start missions, imbuing the environment and vehicles with the "special-ness"</david_byrne>, Niko accesses them through his Friends by communicating like we do, through a cellphone; in doing so, the power is transferred from the landscape to his interpersonal relationship with his new contacts in his new home.

And to as large a degree as possible, they've tried to trim the bonuses and enhancements back, I'm guessing because most people (myself included) played the SHIT out of the R3 missions and hidden packages in an attempt to buff up their character for the story missions, making the story missions way too easy for their buffed characters, but meanwhile casual gamers were unable to finish the game because the missions were already pretty challenging, but when faced with trying to complete with a non-buffed character, they were unable to do so. This is, of course, wildly irresponsible speculation -- but there it is.

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« Reply #159 on: June 10, 2008, 12:32:35 PM »
Dammit where the hell is the pit supposed to be, you know, the one where you can push peds into it and they can't escape and then toss in a grenade for hellzapoppin fun as the bodies fly

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« Reply #160 on: June 10, 2008, 12:35:29 PM »
I'm posolutely, very absitively on the side of GTA IV. I think it's fantastic.

It's inconsistently executed, but not nearly as inconsistent as San Andreas was. It's also trying to do something new and different, in that it's staying character-focused... including limiting the activities to things that the character might do, instead of delivering noodles or shuttling people around in an ambulance or bus driving.

I'm finally getting to the point where I am enjoying the game they made, rather than trying to play the game I was expecting to get.

so basically you concede that rockstar should have killed off features in favor for actually being creative and making new ones. Right. And the result is the most boring sandbox game ever.

What I concede is that GTA IV is not GTA III, Vice City, or San Andreas; I think Rockstar was trying to make a game in which every choice the player is given is in the context of "What would Niko do?" This means no go-cart racing on city streets, but there is an urban racer circuit. This means instead of having special powered cars which start missions, imbuing the environment and vehicles with the "special-ness"</david_byrne>, Niko accesses them through his Friends by communicating like we do, through a cellphone; in doing so, the power is transferred from the landscape to his interpersonal relationship with his new contacts in his new home.

In order to make the game realistic they took out all of the fun? Yes, we're all in agreement on that.
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« Reply #161 on: June 10, 2008, 09:20:30 PM »
I'm posolutely, very absitively on the side of GTA IV. I think it's fantastic.

It's inconsistently executed, but not nearly as inconsistent as San Andreas was. It's also trying to do something new and different, in that it's staying character-focused... including limiting the activities to things that the character might do, instead of delivering noodles or shuttling people around in an ambulance or bus driving.

I'm finally getting to the point where I am enjoying the game they made, rather than trying to play the game I was expecting to get.

so basically you concede that rockstar should have killed off features in favor for actually being creative and making new ones. Right. And the result is the most boring sandbox game ever.

You are forgetting that only Synthesizer Patel is capable of executing sarcasm in text. Please include rolleyes or something to give me a heads-up next time, because I live in a country which has stripmined its irony content, and I'm not prepared for it in normal speech, let alone trying to parse it from text.

What I concede is that GTA IV is not GTA III, Vice City, or San Andreas; I think Rockstar was trying to make a game in which every choice the player is given is in the context of "What would Niko do?" This means no go-cart racing on city streets, but there is an urban racer circuit. This means instead of having special powered cars which start missions, imbuing the environment and vehicles with the "special-ness"</david_byrne>, Niko accesses them through his Friends by communicating like we do, through a cellphone; in doing so, the power is transferred from the landscape to his interpersonal relationship with his new contacts in his new home.

And to as large a degree as possible, they've tried to trim the bonuses and enhancements back, I'm guessing because most people (myself included) played the SHIT out of the R3 missions and hidden packages in an attempt to buff up their character for the story missions, making the story missions way too easy for their buffed characters, but meanwhile casual gamers were unable to finish the game because the missions were already pretty challenging, but when faced with trying to complete with a non-buffed character, they were unable to do so. This is, of course, wildly irresponsible speculation -- but there it is.

what
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« Reply #162 on: June 10, 2008, 09:33:15 PM »
Huh?

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« Reply #163 on: June 10, 2008, 09:37:54 PM »
Most disappointing game I've ever played.  Incredibly boring and repetitive.  Feels like I'm running errands not playing a videogame.  It's an absolute abomination in every regard.

The following games I've played over the past month or two completely and utterly obliterate GTA4:

Mass Effect
Bioshock
LEGO Indiana Jones
Conan
Halo 3
Ninja Gaiden 2
Civilization Revolution
Brain Challenge
Battlefield Bad Company
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« Reply #164 on: June 10, 2008, 09:43:33 PM »
CivRev demo :bow2 :bow2
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« Reply #165 on: June 10, 2008, 10:39:46 PM »
that's right
The civ rev DEMO shits on GTA4, let alone the retail game
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« Reply #166 on: June 10, 2008, 11:08:20 PM »
To each his own I guess.... but I consider GTA4 one of the best games I've ever played. The graphics are pretty amazing for what is going on, there is always something to do, and the story is fun for me. If I fail at one thing I can try another. Once driving is mastered(and it doesn't take long) I find it fun to go around the city. I only take cabs when I fail a mission. No other game has this kind of persistent environment IMO.

SMH @ teh hate.
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« Reply #167 on: June 10, 2008, 11:16:50 PM »
To each his own I guess.... but I consider GTA4 one of the best games I've ever played. The graphics are pretty amazing for what is going on, there is always something to do, and the story is fun for me. If I fail at one thing I can try another. Once driving is mastered(and it doesn't take long) I find it fun to go around the city. I only take cabs when I fail a mission. No other game has this kind of persistent environment IMO.

SMH @ teh hate.

You'll hate it too when the Saints Row series finally appears on your platform.

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« Reply #168 on: June 10, 2008, 11:21:13 PM »
To each his own I guess.... but I consider GTA4 one of the best games I've ever played. The graphics are pretty amazing for what is going on, there is always something to do, and the story is fun for me. If I fail at one thing I can try another. Once driving is mastered(and it doesn't take long) I find it fun to go around the city. I only take cabs when I fail a mission. No other game has this kind of persistent environment IMO.

SMH @ teh hate.

You'll hate it too when the Saints Row series finally appears on your platform.

After seeing the original on the 360, I can only imagine. ::)

But I'll be the first to detract if SR2 is better. But since I highly doubt they have a $100M budget, I don't really count on it.
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« Reply #169 on: June 10, 2008, 11:23:02 PM »
To each his own I guess.... but I consider GTA4 one of the best games I've ever played. The graphics are pretty amazing for what is going on, there is always something to do, and the story is fun for me. If I fail at one thing I can try another. Once driving is mastered(and it doesn't take long) I find it fun to go around the city. I only take cabs when I fail a mission. No other game has this kind of persistent environment IMO.

SMH @ teh hate.

Was GTA4 your first GTA?
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« Reply #170 on: June 10, 2008, 11:23:03 PM »
Saint's Row was pretty mediocre itself.  Let's not go overboard.

In graphics and tech, but it was fun as fuck.

And it has the 'fun to drive around' and 'always having something to do' and 'coherent city' of GTA4 beat.

Fuck even the PS2 GTAs did more of what he praised than GTA4 did.


edit - budget :lol whatever. If the budget is spent on a thrilling narrative that ends with you driving a motorcycle off a ramp and landing on a helicopter then count me out.

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« Reply #171 on: June 10, 2008, 11:23:21 PM »
Saint's Row was pretty mediocre itself.  Let's not go overboard.

Dead Rising then.

Best sandbox game ever
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« Reply #172 on: June 10, 2008, 11:24:17 PM »

Fuck even the PS2 GTAs did more of what he praised than GTA4 did.

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« Reply #173 on: June 10, 2008, 11:24:58 PM »
To each his own I guess.... but I consider GTA4 one of the best games I've ever played. The graphics are pretty amazing for what is going on, there is always something to do, and the story is fun for me. If I fail at one thing I can try another. Once driving is mastered(and it doesn't take long) I find it fun to go around the city. I only take cabs when I fail a mission. No other game has this kind of persistent environment IMO.

SMH @ teh hate.

Was GTA4 your first GTA?

NO. I played GTA and San andreas.  GTA4 was a huge step up IMHO. I haven't had this much fun in a game in a long time.
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« Reply #174 on: June 10, 2008, 11:25:38 PM »
The only thing GTA4 improves over the other games is the shooting. Which is still arguably worse than SR.

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« Reply #175 on: June 10, 2008, 11:27:44 PM »
The PS2 GTA's never gave me the 'WOW' experience I get with GTA4. Like I said, to each his own.
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« Reply #176 on: June 10, 2008, 11:28:09 PM »
The PS2 GTA's never gave me the 'WOW' experience I get with GTA4. Like I said, to each his own.

window dressing and graphics imo

it's understandable
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Re: Man GTA4 is fucking awful
« Reply #177 on: June 10, 2008, 11:29:21 PM »
Saint's Row was pretty mediocre itself.  Let's not go overboard.

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Re: Man GTA4 is fucking awful
« Reply #178 on: June 10, 2008, 11:30:04 PM »
The PS2 GTA's never gave me the 'WOW' experience I get with GTA4. Like I said, to each his own.

window dressing and graphics imo

it's understandable

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Re: Man GTA4 is fucking awful
« Reply #179 on: June 10, 2008, 11:39:28 PM »
Crackdown and Hulk Ultimate Destruction are the only great sandbox games. 
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