Author Topic: Official Ninja Gaiden II Thread. (Read 81503 times)

MCD · « **Reply #780 on:** July 06, 2008, 01:50:42 PM »

it is, it's the core gameplay without story and platforming bullshit.

MCD · « **Reply #781 on:** July 06, 2008, 02:33:53 PM »

itagaki usually rants about dmc's AI and that's it.

also, marketing etc...

MCD · « **Reply #782 on:** July 07, 2008, 07:18:21 AM »

valor test 1 on mentor is terrible.

i spent 2 hours trying to beat it but no good, time to skip this shit.

Draft · « **Reply #783 on:** July 07, 2008, 07:54:52 AM »

I'm not skipping it.

The game doesn't keep track but I know I've gotten as far as like 60 or the 80 enemies killed.

I'm NOT skipping it.

MCD · « **Reply #784 on:** July 07, 2008, 08:13:16 AM »

think Draft, even if you win, you still have ninjas and purple fiends ahead plus the boss.

SKIP IT DRAFT, YOU CAN'T WIN, YOU CAAAAAAAAAN'T

MCD · « **Reply #785 on:** July 09, 2008, 08:48:48 AM »

draft, from that huge post at gaf, i take it you still didn't beat TOV1 yet?

i skipped it and so glad i did, now i am on chapter 6, once i get volf's weapon shit will be easier.

as for the 2nd and 3rd TOVs, 2nd is easy and you only get a yellow essence, waste of time.

while the 3rd is very hard, puts you against red werewolves and blue dogs, thankfully the twin swords UT saved my ass, after spending all my items of course lol.

still, it's all fair unlike the first TOV, only things i saw cheap was alexi's grabs, he really loves grabbing me everytime.

Draft · « **Reply #786 on:** July 09, 2008, 08:55:10 AM »

Nope, still butting heads against.

I don't want to cheese it, and I don't want to skip it.

MCD · « **Reply #787 on:** July 09, 2008, 08:57:54 AM »

it's really a waste of time.

there will always be someone who will grab and suicide right after doing an izuna drop.

then there is the fire pillars and SUDDENLY 3 FIRE WAVES OH SHIT, GAME OVER.

muckhole · « **Reply #788 on:** July 10, 2008, 10:06:00 AM »

Forgive me if this is old.

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/53526

Mission mode is 800 pts.

MCD · « **Reply #789 on:** July 10, 2008, 10:34:55 AM »

god, why is every thing 800 points these days...

CHOW CHOW · « **Reply #790 on:** July 11, 2008, 05:53:03 AM »

MCD · « **Reply #791 on:** July 11, 2008, 06:37:07 AM »

hehe, cute.

chapter 7 on mentor is probably the easiest one yet, the scythe is just unstoppable.

now that i think about it, it was the same as warrior, they didn't change anything, fucking weird.

MCD · « **Reply #792 on:** July 13, 2008, 09:16:08 PM »

the last bosses on mentor were a joke, i had more trouble with them on warrior.

but then again i didn't know about the auto aim thing and i am a little better now so yeah.

master ninja, here i come!

drew · « **Reply #793 on:** July 13, 2008, 09:24:47 PM »

I haven't even beaten this once yet.

demi · « **Reply #794 on:** July 13, 2008, 09:35:10 PM »

Quote from: Nadal on July 13, 2008, 09:24:47 PM

I haven't even beaten this once yet.

It's ok, it's not worth bothering, DMC4 was declaired the winner

BamYouHaveAids · « **Reply #795 on:** July 13, 2008, 10:02:53 PM »

I got this last week. I'm trying to do a no heal DS only play through my first time but the wereolves take forever to kill. A level 1 UT doesn't even take a limp off. Do you have to face werewolves after Chapter 6?

MCD · « **Reply #796 on:** July 14, 2008, 08:02:38 AM »

Quote from: BamYouHaveAids on July 13, 2008, 10:02:53 PM

I got this last week. I'm trying to do a no heal DS only play through my first time but the wereolves take forever to kill. A level 1 UT doesn't even take a limp off. Do you have to face werewolves after Chapter 6?

nope.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #797 on:** July 25, 2008, 10:15:58 AM »

Mission Mode is out, it's also glitched so don't download it.

http://www.achieve360points.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89283

demi · « **Reply #798 on:** July 25, 2008, 10:52:39 AM »

ahahahahahah itagaki

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #799 on:** July 29, 2008, 09:53:33 PM »

Ok, looks like the proper patch and the Mission Mode are back up. I think I'll download now.

GilloD · « **Reply #800 on:** July 30, 2008, 07:50:31 AM »

This should be in my mailbox today. I guess I'll play some of the way through it. but I probs don't have the balls to power through the whole thing.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #801 on:** August 03, 2008, 10:12:43 PM »

This game

Quote

guys im not kidding me and my friend on xbl just got a free 190 achievement points by watching ninja cinema in the leaderboards.

Go to Leaderboards then Karma Challenge then find no. 35 his gamertag is darkness c4wm. Press the right analog stick in to watch his playthrough. When it loads you will immediately get 190 points! Its the DLC achievments and the reason you get 190 and not the full 200 is because he doesnt have the last two achievements for it!

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12248746&postcount=6764

demi · « **Reply #802 on:** August 03, 2008, 10:16:52 PM »

Does that work without the DLC? lol

Meaning, if I havent bought the DLC... guess I'll check

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #803 on:** August 03, 2008, 10:18:07 PM »

Someone later in the thread without DLC said it didnt' work with them.

I thought you were against using those cheap 1000 games to boost your score though?

demi · « **Reply #804 on:** August 03, 2008, 10:19:13 PM »

Yes, Ninja Gaiden is a cheap 1000

demi · « **Reply #805 on:** August 03, 2008, 10:20:32 PM »

Nope, doesnt work if you dont have Mission Mode

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #806 on:** August 03, 2008, 10:22:10 PM »

Quote from: demi on August 03, 2008, 10:19:13 PM

Yes, Ninja Gaiden is a cheap 1000

I mean getting free magic achievements, I thought you were serious about keeping your gamerscore pure from stuff like Avatar or w/e

demi · « **Reply #807 on:** August 03, 2008, 10:23:48 PM »

I don't really see how that's relevant.

MCD · « **Reply #808 on:** August 04, 2008, 01:02:10 AM »

master ninja get.

shit game.

GilloD · « **Reply #809 on:** August 04, 2008, 10:50:50 AM »

Easier than NG1, which is good for me. I might actually finish this. Obliteration moves are getting kind of old.

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #810 on:** August 08, 2008, 10:28:02 PM »

Today I beat the game on Normal and one thing that stuck with me,was that this is a really REALLY unpolished piece of garbage. I had to fight the Armadillo's around 6 times because A:It's a craptasticly made boss fight and B:Once I killed them,they dissapeared from the screen but their health bars didn't. Therefore,allowing one of them to shoot fireballs FROM THIN AIR. As I progressed through the final stages I started to die from bosses because of one primary reason: GRABS. ENEMIES AND BOSSES SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GRAB YOU! THIS IS FUCKING distinguished mentally-challenged. THEY SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO GRABS THAT TAKE HALF YOUR GODDAMN HEALTH BAR. YOU CAN'T DODGE THE GRABS BECAUSE THEY'RE NINJA FAST. YOU CAN'T DODGE THE GRABS BECAUSE YOU CANNOT SEE WHAT IS OFF SCREEN BECAUSE SHITTASTICLY HORRIBBLE CAMERA WON'T SHOW YOU.

Also,most bosses seem to have no rhyme or rhythm to them. They honestly seem random,no set pattern AT ALL. Genshin is easily the best boss fight in the game because he has one,not surprisingly he is also the easiest. Some attacks are oddly easy to dodge one second but impossibly hard the next . You would think during your second playthrough that you would've mastered dodging fireballs but NO I DON'T THINK SO HONEY.

I know bitch bitch or perhaps I suck or I should go play my easier DMC4 but at least in DMC when a enemy throws an attack at me,I know I can either dodge or Royal Guard it with timing. THERE SEEMS TO HONESTLY BE NO TIMING IN NINJA GAIDEN 2, JUST NINJA LUCK. "HOPE YA DON'T GET HIT HUR HUR" I went through a whole playthough in DMC3 using mostly Royal Guard. I KNOW TIMING. IT DOESN'T EXSIT IN NINJA GAIDEN 2. Sometimes you do really good other times you're stuck staring at the screen wondering what the fuck just happened.

Itagaki

tl ; dr : Ninja Gaiden 2 is like a child that came out the oven way too early. It shows promise but will ultimately disappoint you because it's a fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.

MCD · « **Reply #811 on:** August 08, 2008, 10:32:38 PM »

itagaki loves grabs, just see doa4 final distinguished mentally-challenged boss.

thankfully, there are combo moves with invincible frames (scythe XXY air combo.)

MCD · « **Reply #812 on:** August 09, 2008, 08:30:51 AM »

http://www.zune.net/NR/rdonlyres/405F9E02-069C-46CE-BFF2-7A4F5DCA0D0C/0/ngiiaudiorss.xml

soundtrack.

Beezy · « **Reply #813 on:** August 09, 2008, 09:39:08 AM »

Quote from: Junpei the Tracer! on August 08, 2008, 10:28:02 PM

Today I beat the game on Normal and one thing that stuck with me,was that this is a really REALLY unpolished piece of garbage. I had to fight the Armadillo's around 6 times because A:It's a craptasticly made boss fight and B:Once I killed them,they dissapeared from the screen but their health bars didn't. Therefore,allowing one of them to shoot fireballs FROM THIN AIR.

Um, the volcano is shooting fireballs at you during the two armadillo boss fight.

Quote from: Junpei the Tracer! on August 08, 2008, 10:28:02 PM

As I progressed through the final stages I started to die from bosses because of one primary reason: GRABS. ENEMIES AND BOSSES SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GRAB YOU! THIS IS FUCKING distinguished mentally-challenged. THEY SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO GRABS THAT TAKE HALF YOUR GODDAMN HEALTH BAR. YOU CAN'T DODGE THE GRABS BECAUSE THEY'RE NINJA FAST. YOU CAN'T DODGE THE GRABS BECAUSE YOU CANNOT SEE WHAT IS OFF SCREEN BECAUSE SHITTASTICLY HORRIBBLE CAMERA WON'T SHOW YOU.

You can dodge grabs, just pay more attention to the bosses attacks.

Quote from: Junpei the Tracer! on August 08, 2008, 10:28:02 PM

Also,most bosses seem to have no rhyme or rhythm to them. They honestly seem random,no set pattern AT ALL. Genshin is easily the best boss fight in the game because he has one,not surprisingly he is also the easiest. Some attacks are oddly easy to dodge one second but impossibly hard the next . You would think during your second playthrough that you would've mastered dodging fireballs but NO I DON'T THINK SO HONEY.

Yeah, the bosses didn't really have a set pattern in NG2, but they all had like 4-5 attacks at most. It's not too hard to learn how to dodge them all.

Quote from: Junpei the Tracer! on August 08, 2008, 10:28:02 PM

I know bitch bitch or perhaps I suck or I should go play my easier DMC4 but at least in DMC when a enemy throws an attack at me,I know I can either dodge or Royal Guard it with timing. THERE SEEMS TO HONESTLY BE NO TIMING IN NINJA GAIDEN 2, JUST NINJA LUCK. "HOPE YA DON'T GET HIT HUR HUR" I went through a whole playthough in DMC3 using mostly Royal Guard. I KNOW TIMING. IT DOESN'T EXSIT IN NINJA GAIDEN 2. Sometimes you do really good other times you're stuck staring at the screen wondering what the fuck just happened.

Itagaki

tl ; dr : Ninja Gaiden 2 is like a child that came out the oven way too early. It shows promise but will ultimately disappoint you because it's a fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.

Junpei, maybe you really do just suck. The boss fights in NG2 were much easier than the ones in NG1.

MCD · « **Reply #814 on:** August 09, 2008, 09:48:25 AM »

i still can't figure out how to dodge alexei's storm and zed's earth smash without resorting to invincible frames.

MCD · « **Reply #815 on:** August 09, 2008, 09:56:03 AM »

also, the bosses here are better for a simple fact:

you fight them all one on one, with the exception of genshin first and second battle.

in black/sigma, bosses will summon minions whenever you deal some damage to them.

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #816 on:** August 09, 2008, 11:36:00 AM »

Quote from: Beezy on August 09, 2008, 09:39:08 AM

Um, the volcano is shooting fireballs at you during the two armadillo boss fight.

I'm aware of that but when you defeat them everything stops even the volcano. That time I fought them,nothing stopped,the fireballs kept coming wether they were close range or long range. I couldn't even leave the area.

Everything else you said was pretty fair.

Quote from: McDragon on August 09, 2008, 09:56:03 AM

also, the bosses here are better for a simple fact:

you fight them all one on one, with the exception of genshin first and second battle.

in black/sigma, bosses will summon minions whenever you deal some damage to them.

The second Zedonious summons those red scorpion enemies when he flies into the background. Volf has a goddamn army of minotaurs. I think that's it though.

MCD · « **Reply #817 on:** August 09, 2008, 11:40:42 AM »

yeah, i forgot about volf and his pitiful army.

as for zed, he summons randomly and when he does it, he will be open for good deal of combos woot.

MCD · « **Reply #818 on:** August 29, 2008, 04:33:02 PM »

new patch is available now.

i tested chapter 14 freezing issue and it is fixed.

drohne · « **Reply #819 on:** August 29, 2008, 04:36:44 PM »

fucking finally. will start playing tonight

tecmo

MCD · « **Reply #820 on:** August 29, 2008, 04:37:36 PM »

there is another freeze issue in chapter 12, i have no save files there so can't test but i am assuming it is fixed as well.

MCD · « **Reply #821 on:** August 30, 2008, 07:32:33 AM »

just beat it, working 100%

drohne · « **Reply #822 on:** August 31, 2008, 03:09:46 AM »

just finished mission 3, and i'm not sure what to make of it -- the combat still feels really fast and brutal and the enemies are still pleasingly aggressive, but the new scoring system really changes things up. ng1 was about pure speed and efficiency, whereas this seems to be about getting as many ultimate and obliteration kills as possible. i kind of hate ultimates, so i usually find myself pecking away with ground combos until i get a limb and then obliterating...and i'm not sure i'm into this. it's like a weird variant on dmc's style-based scoring. might just forget about rankings and play it like i'm playing ng1. claws are rad, though i'm better with the dragon sword

MCD · « **Reply #823 on:** August 31, 2008, 03:15:37 AM »

UT is the only way to survive master ninja, especially the Lunar 360 UT.

in the first NG, you could rely mostly on wall attacks, flying swallow and izuna drop, here walls won't help at all and flying swallow gets dodged a lot or will leave you open for grabs, same when landing an izuna drop.

drohne · « **Reply #824 on:** August 31, 2008, 06:16:11 AM »

finished chapter 4. boss fights have been pretty bad so far -- really short and messy. except the fish train fight, which is long and annoying. fucking fish train. you climb the fucking statue of liberty to fight that distinguished effete fiend, and he does a couple weird grab attacks and then dies when you breathe on him. wtf

demi · « **Reply #825 on:** August 31, 2008, 06:20:52 AM »

DMC4 > Ninja Glitched 2

drohne · « **Reply #826 on:** August 31, 2008, 06:30:17 AM »

seems so

itagaki suiciding

MCD · « **Reply #827 on:** August 31, 2008, 06:34:09 AM »

itagaki made this game while drunk.

that's how badass he is/spinning.

drohne · « **Reply #828 on:** August 31, 2008, 09:59:05 AM »

yeah, i kind of hate this game. i got stuck at that water dragon boss with only a couple arrows left -- i assume i'm supposed to kill him with arrows -- and trying to fight him in the water SUCKED. wasted a bunch of items that i'd been hoarding :'(

i'll make a point of keeping multiple saves from now on

MCD · « **Reply #829 on:** August 31, 2008, 10:40:59 AM »

i beat him on water on my first try, then arrows on hard and master ninja, can't be bothered.

Beezy · « **Reply #830 on:** September 01, 2008, 12:09:58 AM »

Eclipse Scythe > *

drohne · « **Reply #831 on:** September 01, 2008, 03:56:09 AM »

Quote from: Beezy on September 01, 2008, 12:09:58 AM

Eclipse Scythe > *

no foolin

just got that thing, and it absolutely wrecks werewolves

drohne · « **Reply #832 on:** September 01, 2008, 06:22:09 AM »

never thought i'd say this, but after playing mission 7, i can see why action games are usually full of perfunctory pseudo-adventure bullshit -- the structure of that level made it feel more eventful than the levels before it, which play out like extremely long hallways. good mix of enemies too. the mechs are awesome. loved that test of valor

MCD · « **Reply #833 on:** September 01, 2008, 08:31:21 AM »

chapter 8 and 9 are the worst, have fun.

note: you can run away if you don't feel like fighting through bullshit designs unless a door is locked.

drohne · « **Reply #834 on:** September 01, 2008, 09:20:06 AM »

i didn't mind chapter 8 -- the missile guys were annoying, particularly in the trial of valor, but the clockwork platforming bit made me think 'this is what 3d castlevania could be like if iga weren't useless'

Rman · « **Reply #835 on:** September 01, 2008, 09:27:14 AM »

Game sold a million. Good news I guess. Guarantees a sequel now. I wonder how Ninja Gaiden 3 will turn out without Itagaki. I hope they release a PS3 version of NG2 with bug fixes and overall polishing, too.

drohne · « **Reply #836 on:** September 02, 2008, 08:10:13 AM »

chapter 9 is just an unbelievable gauntlet of fail. missile guys, missile drones, lots of water everywhere, lots of archery instead of fighting, an unbelievably long tunnel full of bugs, a stupid miniboss, stupid worms, stupid fish, a stupid test of valor full of more bugs, chainsaw dudes who are actually kind of cool for a change, a stupid boss involving more stupid archery. ng1 was a fluke

MCD · « **Reply #837 on:** September 02, 2008, 08:11:51 AM »

i told you!

chapter 10 is where things start to get better.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #838 on:** September 02, 2008, 02:11:15 PM »

Chapter 9 sucks some cock, ya

drohne · « **Reply #839 on:** September 06, 2008, 11:47:10 PM »

finished mission 12, must be getting close to the end -- it's finally developed some visual interest as the setting gets more demonic, but the game itself seems to have devolved into a gauntlet of recycled bosses (who weren't much good the first time!)

eh, there are a lot of annoyances, but on the whole the game's pretty great. might try a master ninja run.

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